FUDCon F11 Barcamp Session Video Available

2009-01-16 Thread Chris Tyler

Video from the FUDCon F11 Barcamp is available via the barcamp schedule
page:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:FUDConF11_BarCamp_schedule

These videos are in unedited .ogg/.ogv format and are under a CC-BY-SA
3.0-US license.

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Fedora 11 Alpha - release banner

2009-01-16 Thread Paolo Leoni
Hi there,
we are almost near to F11 alpha release, so I propose to you some
candidates for the alpha release banner.

Since we are still in a initial session for the official F11 theme, I've
used a simple image to point the birth of a new fedora version.

http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-banner-alpha5.png
http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-banner-alpha5.svg

http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-banner-alpha6.png
http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-banner-alpha6.svg

The great music of the Boss (a.k.a. Bruce Springsteen) has inspired
these :-)

About background image copyright: the image is a piece of a sunset photo
that I've taken personally. If is necessary I'll provide the original photo.

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Re: F11 Schedule

2009-01-16 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 08:54:31PM -0800, Karsten Wade wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 08:23:51PM -0500, Máirí­n Duffy wrote:
  John Poelstra wrote:
 
  We also said that all of the banners need to be translated.
Q: does this apply to only #a and #b or does #c apply too?
 
  It depends on the particular design. At a minimum, #a will have a  
  tagline that goes with it that needs translation. (eg right now we have  
  Fedora 10 - Fire it up
 
 That is one item I've been wondering about, and we should note the
 dependency on the design.art schedule.  Where do those taglines and
 other similar bits come from?  If it's another group, we need to
 ensure it is on their schedule, as well as note when it arrives from
 that group.

I believe that work has been done on the fedora-marketing-list.

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Re: Fedora 11 Alpha - release banner

2009-01-16 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 10:35:36AM +0100, Paolo Leoni wrote:
 Hi there,
 we are almost near to F11 alpha release, so I propose to you some
 candidates for the alpha release banner.
 
 Since we are still in a initial session for the official F11 theme, I've
 used a simple image to point the birth of a new fedora version.
 
 http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-banner-alpha5.png
 http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-banner-alpha5.svg
 
 http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-banner-alpha6.png
 http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-banner-alpha6.svg
 
 The great music of the Boss (a.k.a. Bruce Springsteen) has inspired
 these :-)
 
 About background image copyright: the image is a piece of a sunset photo
 that I've taken personally. If is necessary I'll provide the original photo.

I had a constructive comment to make, but I think it might apply to
more upcoming Fedora 11 work than just your banners -- which are
lovely!  Excuse my lack of familiarity with the precise jargon used
for describing fonts and spacing:

Our complementary font used for our artwork is the MgOpen Modata font,
and in this font, the numeral 1 has quite a bit of space around it.
That means that the number 11 as in Fedora 11 looks very oddly
spaced compared to other text elements.  Wherever we write 11 I'd
recommend that people use the manual kerning (?) function in Inkscape
to move these numerals closer together.

If we can do this in a standard way, that's fine -- or if we just
leave it to the eye, expecting that if it's way out of balance someone
will identify that problem and tweak the design, that's fine too.  I
just thought it was worth mentioning as we head into the time where
people are working on banners that might include 11.

I now have the Good Eleven song from Schoolhouse Rock in my head! :-D

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Re: Fedora 11 Alpha - release banner

2009-01-16 Thread Nicu Buculei

Paul W. Frields wrote:


Our complementary font used for our artwork is the MgOpen Modata font,
and in this font, the numeral 1 has quite a bit of space around it.
That means that the number 11 as in Fedora 11 looks very oddly
spaced compared to other text elements.  Wherever we write 11 I'd
recommend that people use the manual kerning (?) function in Inkscape
to move these numerals closer together.


Yes, it is called kerning and is easily adjustable in Inkscape (Alt +  
to decrease the spacing and Alt +  to increase it) and in Gimp (where 
we have a text spacing spin button).



If we can do this in a standard way, that's fine -- or if we just
leave it to the eye, expecting that if it's way out of balance someone
will identify that problem and tweak the design, that's fine too.  I
just thought it was worth mentioning as we head into the time where
people are working on banners that might include 11.


While in Gimp is easy to remember the value from the spin box, in 
Inkscape you need to look at the SVG source to know the exact value, so 
I guess we'll have to go with the eye.



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[Bug 474734] Blurriness of Latin letter R (U+0052) in Liberation Regular

2009-01-16 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=474734





--- Comment #10 from san watching...@gmail.com  2009-01-16 07:08:03 EDT ---
Created an attachment (id=329197)
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antialias use Subpixel option in Ubuntu

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[Bug 474734] Blurriness of Latin letter R (U+0052) in Liberation Regular

2009-01-16 Thread bugzilla
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san watching...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Flag|needinfo?(watching...@gmail |
   |.com)   |




--- Comment #9 from san watching...@gmail.com  2009-01-16 07:06:35 EDT ---
Created an attachment (id=329196)
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antialias use Grayscale option in Ubuntu

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[Bug 474734] Blurriness of Latin letter R (U+0052) in Liberation Regular

2009-01-16 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=474734





--- Comment #11 from san watching...@gmail.com  2009-01-16 07:11:59 EDT ---
(In reply to comment #8)
 (In reply to comment #7)
  please take a look for web sshot I committed
  (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=325770) in which
  
  Letter R is marked with red color. the last stroke of R is gray not the
  same black as other strokes.
 
 Could you kindly screenshot the R in non-Pango application? (such as gedit)
 
 
  I enable slight hinting for Liberation Sans.
 
 Would you mind re-confirm in 'gnome-appearance-properties' which anti-aliasing
 is *off* please?

refer to comment 9 and 10. it seems antialias with subpixel enabled cannot get 
blurriness.

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[Bug 477480] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

2009-01-16 Thread bugzilla
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Karel Volný kvo...@redhat.com changed:

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 Status|NEW |CLOSED
 Resolution||RAWHIDE




--- Comment #4 from Karel Volný kvo...@redhat.com  2009-01-16 11:41:27 EDT ---
fixed by removing the bundled font and rather depending on the packaged version
(as it was just a copy of DejaVu Sans Mono)

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rpms/fontpackages/F-10 .cvsignore, 1.2, 1.3 fontpackages.spec, 1.1, 1.2 import.log, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.2, 1.3

2009-01-16 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Author: nim

Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/F-10
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv19640/F-10

Modified Files:
.cvsignore fontpackages.spec import.log sources 
Log Message:
Import 1.15 to use FPC and FESCO approved package naming by default


Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/F-10/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.2
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -u -r1.2 -r1.3
--- .cvsignore  15 Dec 2008 22:20:35 -  1.2
+++ .cvsignore  16 Jan 2009 18:51:49 -  1.3
@@ -1 +1 @@
-fontpackages-1.11.tar.bz2
+fontpackages-1.15.tar.bz2


Index: fontpackages.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/F-10/fontpackages.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -r1.1 -r1.2
--- fontpackages.spec   15 Dec 2008 22:20:35 -  1.1
+++ fontpackages.spec   16 Jan 2009 18:51:49 -  1.2
@@ -1,8 +1,9 @@
 %define spectemplatedir %{_sysconfdir}/rpmdevtools/
+%define ftcgtemplatedir %{_datadir}/fontconfig/templates/
 %define rpmmacrodir %{_sysconfdir}/rpm/
 
 Name:fontpackages
-Version: 1.11
+Version: 1.15
 Release: 1%{?dist}
 Summary: Common directory and macro definitions used by font packages
 
@@ -10,8 +11,7 @@
 # Mostly means the scriptlets inserted via this package do not change the
 # license of the packages they're inserted in
 License:   LGPLv3+
-# Or git://git.fedorahosted.org/fontpackages.git
-URL:   http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fonts_SIG
+URL:   http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/fontpackages/
 Source0:   
http://fedorahosted.org/releases/f/o/%{name}/%{name}-%{version}.tar.bz2
 BuildArch: noarch
 BuildRoot: %(mktemp -ud %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-XX)
@@ -53,22 +53,27 @@
 rm -fr %{buildroot}
 
 # Pull macros out of macros.fonts and emulate them during install
-for dir in fontbasedir fontconfig_confdir fontconfig_templatedir ; do
+for dir in fontbasedirfontconfig_masterdir \
+   fontconfig_confdir fontconfig_templatedir ; do
   export _${dir}=$(rpm --eval $(%{__grep} -E ^%_${dir}\b \
 macros/macros.fonts | %{__awk} '{ print $2 }'))
 done
 
 install -m 0755 -d %{buildroot}${_fontbasedir} \
+   %{buildroot}${_fontconfig_masterdir} \
%{buildroot}${_fontconfig_confdir} \
%{buildroot}${_fontconfig_templatedir} \
%{buildroot}%{spectemplatedir} \
-   %{buildroot}%{rpmmacrodir}
-install -m 0644 -p spec-templates/*.spec %{buildroot}%{spectemplatedir}
-install -m 0644 -p macros/macros*   %{buildroot}%{rpmmacrodir}
+   %{buildroot}%{rpmmacrodir} \
+   %{buildroot}%{_datadir}/fontconfig/templates
+install -m 0644 -p spec-templates/*.spec  %{buildroot}%{spectemplatedir}
+install -m 0644 -p fontconfig-templates/* %{buildroot}%{ftcgtemplatedir}
+install -m 0644 -p macros/macros* %{buildroot}%{rpmmacrodir}
 
 cat EOF  %{name}-%{version}.files
 %defattr(0644,root,root,0755)
 %dir ${_fontbasedir}
+%dir ${_fontconfig_masterdir}
 %dir ${_fontconfig_confdir}
 %dir ${_fontconfig_templatedir}
 EOF
@@ -78,26 +83,52 @@
 
 
 %files filesystem -f %{name}-%{version}.files
+%defattr(0644,root,root,0755)
+%dir %{_datadir}/fontconfig
 
 
 %files devel
 %defattr(0644,root,root,0755)
-%doc license.txt readme.txt fontconfig-templates/
+%doc license.txt readme.txt
 %config(noreplace) %{spectemplatedir}/*.spec
 %config(noreplace) %{rpmmacrodir}/macros*
+%dir %{ftcgtemplatedir}
+%{ftcgtemplatedir}/*
 
 
 %changelog
+* Thu Jan 15 2009 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
+- 1.15-1
+➜ lua-ize the main macro
+
+* Wed Jan 14 2009 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
+- 1.14-1
+➽ Update for subpackage naming changes requested by FPC
+
+* Mon Dec 22 2008 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
+- 1.13-1
+⟃ Add another directory to avoid depending on unowned stuff
+❤ use it to put the fontconfig examples in a better place
+
+* Sun Dec 21 2008 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
+- 1.12-2
+⌂ Change homepage
+
+* Fri Dec 19 2008 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
+- 1.12-1
+☺ Add another macro to allow building fontconfig without cycling
+
 * Wed Dec 10 2008 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
 - 1.11-1
 ☺ Add actual fedorahosted references
+
 * Sun Nov 23 2008 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
 - 1.10-1
 ☺ renamed to “fontpackages”
+
 * Fri Nov 14 2008 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
 - 1.9-1
 ☺ fix and complete fontconfig doc
-* Fri Nov 14 2008 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
 - 1.8-1
 ☺ simplify multi spec template: codify general case
 - 1.7-1


Index: import.log
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/F-10/import.log,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2

rpms/fontpackages/F-9 .cvsignore, 1.2, 1.3 fontpackages.spec, 1.1, 1.2 import.log, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.2, 1.3

2009-01-16 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Author: nim

Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/F-9
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv19834/F-9

Modified Files:
.cvsignore fontpackages.spec import.log sources 
Log Message:
Import 1.15 to use FPC and FESCO approved package naming by default


Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/F-9/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.2
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -u -r1.2 -r1.3
--- .cvsignore  15 Dec 2008 22:33:49 -  1.2
+++ .cvsignore  16 Jan 2009 18:52:34 -  1.3
@@ -1 +1 @@
-fontpackages-1.11.tar.bz2
+fontpackages-1.15.tar.bz2


Index: fontpackages.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/F-9/fontpackages.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -r1.1 -r1.2
--- fontpackages.spec   15 Dec 2008 22:33:49 -  1.1
+++ fontpackages.spec   16 Jan 2009 18:52:34 -  1.2
@@ -1,8 +1,9 @@
 %define spectemplatedir %{_sysconfdir}/rpmdevtools/
+%define ftcgtemplatedir %{_datadir}/fontconfig/templates/
 %define rpmmacrodir %{_sysconfdir}/rpm/
 
 Name:fontpackages
-Version: 1.11
+Version: 1.15
 Release: 1%{?dist}
 Summary: Common directory and macro definitions used by font packages
 
@@ -10,8 +11,7 @@
 # Mostly means the scriptlets inserted via this package do not change the
 # license of the packages they're inserted in
 License:   LGPLv3+
-# Or git://git.fedorahosted.org/fontpackages.git
-URL:   http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fonts_SIG
+URL:   http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/fontpackages/
 Source0:   
http://fedorahosted.org/releases/f/o/%{name}/%{name}-%{version}.tar.bz2
 BuildArch: noarch
 BuildRoot: %(mktemp -ud %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-XX)
@@ -53,22 +53,27 @@
 rm -fr %{buildroot}
 
 # Pull macros out of macros.fonts and emulate them during install
-for dir in fontbasedir fontconfig_confdir fontconfig_templatedir ; do
+for dir in fontbasedirfontconfig_masterdir \
+   fontconfig_confdir fontconfig_templatedir ; do
   export _${dir}=$(rpm --eval $(%{__grep} -E ^%_${dir}\b \
 macros/macros.fonts | %{__awk} '{ print $2 }'))
 done
 
 install -m 0755 -d %{buildroot}${_fontbasedir} \
+   %{buildroot}${_fontconfig_masterdir} \
%{buildroot}${_fontconfig_confdir} \
%{buildroot}${_fontconfig_templatedir} \
%{buildroot}%{spectemplatedir} \
-   %{buildroot}%{rpmmacrodir}
-install -m 0644 -p spec-templates/*.spec %{buildroot}%{spectemplatedir}
-install -m 0644 -p macros/macros*   %{buildroot}%{rpmmacrodir}
+   %{buildroot}%{rpmmacrodir} \
+   %{buildroot}%{_datadir}/fontconfig/templates
+install -m 0644 -p spec-templates/*.spec  %{buildroot}%{spectemplatedir}
+install -m 0644 -p fontconfig-templates/* %{buildroot}%{ftcgtemplatedir}
+install -m 0644 -p macros/macros* %{buildroot}%{rpmmacrodir}
 
 cat EOF  %{name}-%{version}.files
 %defattr(0644,root,root,0755)
 %dir ${_fontbasedir}
+%dir ${_fontconfig_masterdir}
 %dir ${_fontconfig_confdir}
 %dir ${_fontconfig_templatedir}
 EOF
@@ -78,26 +83,52 @@
 
 
 %files filesystem -f %{name}-%{version}.files
+%defattr(0644,root,root,0755)
+%dir %{_datadir}/fontconfig
 
 
 %files devel
 %defattr(0644,root,root,0755)
-%doc license.txt readme.txt fontconfig-templates/
+%doc license.txt readme.txt
 %config(noreplace) %{spectemplatedir}/*.spec
 %config(noreplace) %{rpmmacrodir}/macros*
+%dir %{ftcgtemplatedir}
+%{ftcgtemplatedir}/*
 
 
 %changelog
+* Thu Jan 15 2009 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
+- 1.15-1
+➜ lua-ize the main macro
+
+* Wed Jan 14 2009 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
+- 1.14-1
+➽ Update for subpackage naming changes requested by FPC
+
+* Mon Dec 22 2008 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
+- 1.13-1
+⟃ Add another directory to avoid depending on unowned stuff
+❤ use it to put the fontconfig examples in a better place
+
+* Sun Dec 21 2008 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
+- 1.12-2
+⌂ Change homepage
+
+* Fri Dec 19 2008 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
+- 1.12-1
+☺ Add another macro to allow building fontconfig without cycling
+
 * Wed Dec 10 2008 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
 - 1.11-1
 ☺ Add actual fedorahosted references
+
 * Sun Nov 23 2008 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
 - 1.10-1
 ☺ renamed to “fontpackages”
+
 * Fri Nov 14 2008 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
 - 1.9-1
 ☺ fix and complete fontconfig doc
-* Fri Nov 14 2008 Nicolas Mailhot nim at fedoraproject dot org
 - 1.8-1
 ☺ simplify multi spec template: codify general case
 - 1.7-1


Index: import.log
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/fontpackages/F-9/import.log,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u 

rpms/stix-fonts/devel import.log,1.2,1.3 stix-fonts.spec,1.5,1.6

2009-01-16 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Author: nim

Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/stix-fonts/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv5947/devel

Modified Files:
import.log stix-fonts.spec 
Log Message:
update for new naming guidelines


Index: import.log
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/stix-fonts/devel/import.log,v
retrieving revision 1.2
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -u -r1.2 -r1.3
--- import.log  17 Dec 2008 19:58:52 -  1.2
+++ import.log  16 Jan 2009 21:27:32 -  1.3
@@ -1,2 +1,3 @@
 stix-fonts-0_9-7_fc10:HEAD:stix-fonts-0.9-7.fc10.src.rpm:1215809789
 stix-fonts-0_9-9_fc11:HEAD:stix-fonts-0.9-9.fc11.src.rpm:1229543904
+stix-fonts-0_9-10_fc11:HEAD:stix-fonts-0.9-10.fc11.src.rpm:1232141192


Index: stix-fonts.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/stix-fonts/devel/stix-fonts.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.5
retrieving revision 1.6
diff -u -r1.5 -r1.6
--- stix-fonts.spec 17 Dec 2008 19:58:52 -  1.5
+++ stix-fonts.spec 16 Jan 2009 21:27:32 -  1.6
@@ -11,7 +11,7 @@
 
 Name:%{fontname}-fonts
 Version: 0.9
-Release: 9%{?dist}
+Release: 10%{?dist}
 Summary: STIX scientific and engineering fonts
 
 Group: User Interface/X
@@ -37,12 +37,14 @@
 use.
 
 
-%package  pua
+%package -n %{fontname}-pua-fonts
 Summary:  STIX scientific and engineering fonts, PUA glyphs
 Group:User Interface/X
 Requires: %{name} = %{version}-%{release}
 
-%description pua
+Obsoletes: %{name}-pua  0.9-10
+
+%description -n %{fontname}-pua-fonts
 %common_desc
 
 This package includes fonts containing glyphs called out from the Unicode
@@ -54,12 +56,14 @@
 %_font_pkg -n pua -f %{fontconf}-pua.conf STIXNonUni*otf
 
 
-%package  integrals
+%package -n %{fontname}-integrals-fonts
 Summary:  STIX scientific and engineering fonts, additional integral glyphs
 Group:User Interface/X
 Requires: %{name} = %{version}-%{release}
 
-%description integrals
+Obsoletes: %{name}-integrals  0.9-10
+
+%description -n %{fontname}-integrals-fonts
 %common_desc
 
 This package includes fonts containing additional integrals of various size
@@ -68,12 +72,14 @@
 %_font_pkg -n integrals -f %{fontconf}-integrals.conf STIXInt*.otf
 
 
-%package  sizes
+%package -n %{fontname}-sizes-fonts
 Summary:  STIX scientific and engineering fonts, additional glyph sizes
 Group:User Interface/X
 Requires: %{name} = %{version}-%{release}
 
-%description sizes
+Obsoletes: %{name}-sizes  0.9-10
+
+%description -n %{fontname}-sizes-fonts
 %common_desc
 
 This package includes fonts containing glyphs in additional sizes (Mostly
@@ -82,12 +88,14 @@
 %_font_pkg -n sizes -f %{fontconf}-sizes.conf STIXSiz*.otf
 
 
-%package  variants
+%package -n %{fontname}-variants-fonts
 Summary:  STIX scientific and engineering fonts, additional glyph variants
 Group:User Interface/X
 Requires: %{name} = %{version}-%{release}
 
-%description variants
+Obsoletes: %{name}-variants  0.9-10
+
+%description -n %{fontname}-variants-fonts
 %common_desc
 
 This package includes fonts containing alternative variants of some glyphs.
@@ -129,13 +137,13 @@
 install -m 0644 -p %{SOURCE6} \
 %{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_templatedir}/%{fontconf}-variants.conf
 
-for fontconf in %{fontconf}.conf \
-%{fontconf}-pua.conf \
-%{fontconf}-integrals.conf \
-%{fontconf}-sizes.conf \
-%{fontconf}-variants.conf ; do
-  ln -s %{_fontconfig_templatedir}/$fontconf \
-%{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_confdir}/$fontconf
+for fconf in %{fontconf}.conf \
+ %{fontconf}-pua.conf \
+ %{fontconf}-integrals.conf \
+ %{fontconf}-sizes.conf \
+ %{fontconf}-variants.conf ; do
+  ln -s %{_fontconfig_templatedir}/$fconf \
+%{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_confdir}/$fconf
 done
 
 
@@ -150,6 +158,10 @@
 
 
 %changelog
+* Fri Jan 16 2009 nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net
+- 0.9-10
+‣ Convert to new naming guidelines
+
 * Sun Nov 23 2008 nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net
 - 0.9-9
 ᛤ ‘rpm-fonts’ renamed to “fontpackages”

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[Bug 475661] Review Request: google-droid-fonts - General-purpose fonts released by Google as part of Android

2009-01-16 Thread bugzilla
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Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED
 Resolution||RAWHIDE




--- Comment #4 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2009-01-16 
17:09:32 EDT ---
Will let it steam in rawhide a bit before importing in stable releases as it
includes CJK fonts and we always seem to get them wrong at first somehow

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rpms/google-droid-fonts/devel google-droid-fonts.spec, 1.1, 1.2 import.log, 1.1, 1.2

2009-01-16 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Author: nim

Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/google-droid-fonts/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv15059/devel

Modified Files:
google-droid-fonts.spec import.log 
Log Message:
workaround rhel5 rpm bug


Index: google-droid-fonts.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/google-droid-fonts/devel/google-droid-fonts.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -r1.1 -r1.2
--- google-droid-fonts.spec 16 Jan 2009 22:10:40 -  1.1
+++ google-droid-fonts.spec 16 Jan 2009 22:29:21 -  1.2
@@ -3,7 +3,7 @@
 %define download_root 
http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/frameworks/base.git;a=blob_plain;f=data/fonts
 
 %define common_desc \
-The Droid typeface family was designed in the fall of 2006 by Ascender’s \
+The Droid typeface family was designed in the fall of 2006 by Ascender's \
 Steve Matteson, as a commission from Google to create a set of system fonts \
 for its Android platform. The goal was to provide optimal quality and comfort \
 on a mobile handset when rendered in application menus, web browsers and for \
@@ -12,7 +12,7 @@
 Name:%{fontname}-fonts
 # The font files all have the same version except for sans fallback which I'm 
going to ignore here
 Version: 1.0.112
-Release: 2%{?dist}
+Release: 3%{?dist}
 Summary: General-purpose fonts released by Google as part of Android
 
 Group: User Interface/X
@@ -143,6 +143,8 @@
 
 %changelog
 * Fri Jan 16 2009 nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net
+- 1.0.112-3
+⁉ Workaround RHEL5 rpmbuild UTF-8 handling bug
 - 1.0.112-2
 ⁍ Convert to new naming guidelines
 ⁍ Do strange stuff with Sans Fallback (CJK users please check)


Index: import.log
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/google-droid-fonts/devel/import.log,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -r1.1 -r1.2
--- import.log  16 Jan 2009 22:10:40 -  1.1
+++ import.log  16 Jan 2009 22:29:21 -  1.2
@@ -1 +1,2 @@
 
google-droid-fonts-1_0_112-2_fc11:HEAD:google-droid-fonts-1.0.112-2.fc11.src.rpm:1232143809
+google-droid-fonts-1_0_112-3_fc11:HEAD:google-droid-fonts-1.0.112-3.fc11.src.rpm:1232144541

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[Bug 477055] Please drop fonts spec template from rpmdevtools

2009-01-16 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #13 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org  
2009-01-16 18:43:06 EDT ---
rpmdevtools-7.0-1.fc10 has been pushed to the Fedora 10 stable repository.  If
problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report.

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[Bug 477055] Please drop fonts spec template from rpmdevtools

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--- Comment #14 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org  
2009-01-16 18:44:16 EDT ---
rpmdevtools-7.0-1.fc9 has been pushed to the Fedora 9 stable repository.  If
problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report.

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[Bug 477055] Please drop fonts spec template from rpmdevtools

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Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ON_QA   |CLOSED
 Resolution||NEXTRELEASE




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rpms/smc-fonts/devel smc-fonts.spec,1.3,1.4

2009-01-16 Thread Rajeesh K Nambiar
Author: rajeeshknambiar

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/smc-fonts/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv1672

Modified Files:
smc-fonts.spec 
Log Message:
Update for new font naming guidelines



Index: smc-fonts.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/smc-fonts/devel/smc-fonts.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.3
retrieving revision 1.4
diff -u -r1.3 -r1.4
--- smc-fonts.spec  6 Jan 2009 09:30:39 -   1.3
+++ smc-fonts.spec  17 Jan 2009 05:28:18 -  1.4
@@ -6,16 +6,16 @@
 The smc-fonts package contains fonts for the display of\
 traditional and new Malayalam Script.
 
-Name:  %{fontname}-fonts
+Name:  %{fontname}-fonts
 Version:   04.1
-Release:   2%{?dist}
+Release:   3%{?dist}
 Summary:   Open Type Fonts for Malayalam script
-Group: User Interface/X
+Group: User Interface/X
 License:   GPLv3+ with exceptions and GPLv2+ with exceptions and GPLv2+ 
and  GPLv2
-URL:   http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/smc
-Source:
http://download.savannah.nongnu.org/releases/smc/fonts/malayalam-fonts-%{version}.zip
+URL:   http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/smc
+Source:
http://download.savannah.nongnu.org/releases/smc/fonts/malayalam-fonts-%{version}.zip
 BuildArch: noarch
-BuildRequires: fontpackages-devel
+BuildRequires: fontpackages-devel  1.13
 BuildRoot: %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n)
 
 %description
@@ -23,74 +23,81 @@
 
 %package common
 Summary:  Common files for smc-fonts
-Group:  User Interface/X
+Group: User Interface/X
 Requires: fontpackages-filesystem
 
 %description common
 %common_desc
 
-%package dyuthi
+%package -n %{fontname}-dyuthi-fonts
 Summary: Open Type Fonts for Malayalam script
 Group: User Interface/X 
 Requires: %{name}-common = %{version}-%{release}
 License: GPLv3+ with exceptions
-%description dyuthi
+Obsoletes: %{name}-dyuthi  04.1-3
+%description -n %{fontname}-dyuthi-fonts
 The smc-fonts-dyuthi package contains fonts for the display of
 traditional Malayalam Scripts.
 
-%package meera 
+%package -n %{fontname}-meera-fonts
 Summary: Open Type Fonts for Malayalam script
 Group: User Interface/X 
 Requires: %{name}-common = %{version}-%{release}
 License: GPLv2+ with exceptions
-%description meera
+Obsoletes: %{name}-meera  04.1-3
+%description -n %{fontname}-meera-fonts
 The smc-fonts-meera package contains fonts for the display of
 traditional Malayalam Scripts.
 
 
-%package rachana 
+%package -n %{fontname}-rachana-fonts
 Summary: Open Type Fonts for Malayalam script
 Group: User Interface/X 
 Requires: %{name}-common = %{version}-%{release}
 License: GPLv2+
-%description rachana
+Obsoletes: %{name}-rachana  04.1-3
+%description -n %{fontname}-rachana-fonts
 The smc-fonts-rachana package contains fonts for the display of
 traditional Malayalam Scripts.
 
 
-%package raghumalayalam
+%package -n %{fontname}-raghumalayalam-fonts
 Summary: Open Type Fonts for Malayalam script
 Group: User Interface/X 
 Requires: %{name}-common = %{version}-%{release}
 License: GPLv2
-%description raghumalayalam
+Obsoletes: %{name}-raghumalayalam  04.1-3
+%description -n %{fontname}-raghumalayalam-fonts
 The smc-fonts-malayalam package contains fonts for the display of
 new Malayalam Scripts.
 
-%package suruma
+%package -n %{fontname}-suruma-fonts
 Summary: Open Type Fonts for Malayalam script
 Group: User Interface/X 
 Requires: %{name}-common = %{version}-%{release}
 License: GPLv3+ with exceptions
-%description suruma
+Obsoletes: %{name}-suruma  04.1-3
+%description -n %{fontname}-suruma-fonts
 The smc-fonts-suruma package contains fonts for the display of
 traditional Malayalam Scripts.
 
-%package kalyani
+%package -n %{fontname}-kalyani-fonts
 Summary: Open Type Fonts for Malayalam script
 Group: User Interface/X
 Requires: %{name}-common = %{version}-%{release}
 License: GPLv3+ with exceptions
-%description kalyani
+Obsoletes: %{name}-kalyani  04-1.3
+%description -n %{fontname}-kalyani-fonts
 The smc-fonts-suruma package contains fonts for the display of
 new Malayalam Scripts.
 
-%package anjalioldlipi
+%package -n %{fontname}-anjalioldlipi-fonts
 Summary: Open Type Fonts for Malayalam script
 Group: User Interface/X
 Requires: %{name}-common = %{version}-%{release}
 License: GPLv3+ with exceptions
-%description anjalioldlipi
+Obsoletes: %{name}-anjalioldlipi  04.1-3
+%description -n %{fontname}-anjalioldlipi-fonts
 The smc-fonts-suruma package contains fonts for the display of
 traditional Malayalam Scripts.
 
@@ -137,6 +144,9 @@
 %dir %{_fontdir}
 
 %changelog
+* Sat Jan 17 2009 Rajeesh K Nambiar rajeeshknamb...@gmail.com 04.1-3
+- update for new font guidelines
+
 * Tue Jan 06 2009 Pravin Satpute psatp...@redhat.com 04.1-2
 - bugfix 477458
 - updated spec

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[Bug 477458] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

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--- Comment #5 from Rajeesh rajeeshknamb...@gmail.com  2009-01-17 00:52:13 
EDT ---
spec is updated, and Koji has built the rawhide packages successfully.

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Broken dependencies: tetex-font-kerkis

2009-01-16 Thread buildsys


tetex-font-kerkis has broken dependencies in the development tree:
On ppc:
tetex-font-kerkis-2.0-16.fc11.noarch requires kerkis-fonts = 
0:2.0-16.fc11
On x86_64:
tetex-font-kerkis-2.0-16.fc11.noarch requires kerkis-fonts = 
0:2.0-16.fc11
On i386:
tetex-font-kerkis-2.0-16.fc11.noarch requires kerkis-fonts = 
0:2.0-16.fc11
On ppc64:
tetex-font-kerkis-2.0-16.fc11.noarch requires kerkis-fonts = 
0:2.0-16.fc11
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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Re: DRBD

2009-01-16 Thread Oliver Falk

Mike McGrath wrote:

On Thu, 15 Jan 2009, Ramez Hanna wrote:


so what is the project?


Finding out if Fedora/RHEL is one of the few major distros without drbd.


It *IS*! :-(

Although it's not too hard to generate RPMs from the tarballs and use it...

I'd be happy to see it included in Fedora/RHEL! I guess the guys from 
Linbit (located here in Austria), wouldn't mind as well :-)


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transport maps for bastion

2009-01-16 Thread seth vidal
Currently all mail which goes through bastion (for example all
@fedoraproject.org mail) then relays through mx.util.phx.redhat.com.

So, if we look at our mail route it is:

primary mxes for fedoraproject.org are:
;; ANSWER SECTION:
IN  MX  40 smtp.fedora.redhat.com.
IN  MX  10 mx1.fedoraproject.org.
IN  MX  20 mx2.fedoraproject.org.
IN  MX  30 mx3.fedoraproject.org.

Which are all redhat.com boxes. So our mail goes from there, to bastion
to expand out the aliases we have (ultimately) then back to
mx.util.phx.redhat.com to be relayed out to the rest of the world.

For various reasons mail bound from bastion to @redhat.com addresses
probably needs to go through mx.util.phx.redhat.com, however, mail not
bound for @redhat.com shouldn't have to.

I'm proposing using a postfix transport map which explicitly says:
.redhat.com  smtp:mx.util.phx.redhat.com
redhat.com  smtp:mx.util.phx.redhat.com
* :

This says: 

for mail bound to redhat.com or anyhost.redhat.com - relay to
mx.util.phx.redhat.com

for any other email, relay normally (ie: by the destinations normal
paths)

So my question for all you nice people is:

Can anyone see any problem with doing this? I've tested it out on a
different mail server I take care of and it works fine.

-sv



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Re: transport maps for bastion

2009-01-16 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:21 PM, seth vidal skvi...@fedoraproject.org wrote:

 for mail bound to redhat.com or anyhost.redhat.com - relay to
 mx.util.phx.redhat.com

 for any other email, relay normally (ie: by the destinations normal
 paths)

 So my question for all you nice people is:

 Can anyone see any problem with doing this? I've tested it out on a
 different mail server I take care of and it works fine.

I'm not a postfix guru so I won't comment on the postfix details, but
I do similar things at $DAYJOB so I approve of the general concept.
The only thing that I would suggest would be to have more than one box
handling @fedoraproject.org email relays rather than relying on
bastion.

-- 
Jeff Ollie

You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then
I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the
terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve
them? So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and
unfairness of the universe.

-- Marcus to Franklin in Babylon 5: A Late Delivery from Avalon

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RE: transport maps for bastion

2009-01-16 Thread Chris Johnson
I'm new to the environment but have exp with  postfix @ $DAYJOB, so I
figure this might be something I can contribute to without sounding
too dumb, but if I do please take it easy. :)

Currently all mail which goes through bastion (for example all
@fedoraproject.org mail) then relays through mx.util.phx.redhat.com.

I'm not sure what bastion is but my question is why is the relay going
through mx.util.phx.redhat.com currently? I'm guessing bastion is the
host the @fedoraproject.org email is delivered on. (?) I can't find
mx.util.phx.redhat.com in public dns is there an ACL on the zone or is
this an /etc/host entry? Is the relay to mx.util.phx.redhat.com done
via a relayhost entry in main.cf? Also, where does mail go after
mx.util.phx.redhat.com, I'm guessing there's another hop before the
internet because of the dns failure.

Which are all redhat.com boxes. So our mail goes from there, to bastion
to expand out the aliases we have (ultimately) then back to
mx.util.phx.redhat.com to be relayed out to the rest of the world.

back to mx.util.phx.redhat.com? does it come from their or from the MX hosts?


For various reasons mail bound from bastion to @redhat.com addresses
probably needs to go through mx.util.phx.redhat.com, however, mail not
bound for @redhat.com shouldn't have to.

Just curious as the the various reasons you mention here.

I'm proposing using a postfix transport map which explicitly says:
.redhat.com  smtp:mx.util.phx.redhat.com
redhat.com  smtp:mx.util.phx.redhat.com
* :


I believe you could also remove the last line and if a relayhost is
used in main.cf comment it out. It should do the same thing since
postfix uses dns mx or A record for next hop delivery.


So my question for all you nice people is:

Can anyone see any problem with doing this? I've tested it out on a
different mail server I take care of and it works fine.

I would wonder if this is needed at all? why can't the redhat.com
domain go to the mx too? just curious. As long as redhat.com isn't one
of bastion's postfix mydestination I would expect everything to still
work and be a much easier config to change or troubleshoot later. /me
likes things as simple as possible :-)


PS. was there a meeting yesterday? I was planning on joining but had a
conf call scheduled and didn't see notes from the list.


JCJ

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Re: RFC - sysadmin guidelines

2009-01-16 Thread Frank Chiulli
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Frank Chiulli frankc.fed...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Sun, 11 Jan 2009, Mike McGrath wrote:

 This isn't really required but it's my intention to implement these
 policies (or what we come to after some discussion).  This is targeted
 _ONLY_ at this team and those with shell access to our servers.  Its not
 my intention to roll it out to the larger community, though its certainly
 a good idea for people to read through it.

 http://mmcgrath.fedorapeople.org/policy/


 Mike,
 Take a look at Section 1.2. Host Network Security.  There is a
 duplicate setting.
 The 4th setting is:
 net.ipv4.conf.all.accept_redirects = 0

 This setting is duplicated in the 14th setting.

 I'm guessing that the 4th setting should be removed.

 Frank


Mike,
First let me say that the examples are a great addition to the page.

I was looking at the iptables sample configuration and had some
questions.  I compared your suggested configuration to my current
configuration (Fedora 10).  With the exception of the lines with
'--tcp-flags' in your sample configuration, they're pretty close.  I
don't have those yet.  The first three lines that start with '-A' in
your sample are the same as mine except the order is different.  Does
the order make a difference?

Here are the lines from my file:
-A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j accept
-A INPUT -p icmp -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT

Here are yours:
-A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
-A INPUT -p icmp -j ACCEPT


Thanks,
Frank

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PPC kernel build times

2009-01-16 Thread Josh Boyer
So I poked around at why ppc builds seem so slow.  Net result:
I still have no idea.

On a quad-970 machine with 2GiB of DRAM running the latest F-9,
I did a 'make ppc64' build of the devel kernel with a modified
kernel.spec file that spit out some basic timestamps on the
RPM sections.  Results:

Total time:

real65m58.701s
user89m53.501s
sys 11m4.737s

Each section:

Prep: 52 seconds
Build:   ~33 minutes
Install:  38 seconds

[jwbo...@yoda devel]$ grep -e Prep -e Build -e Install 
.build-2.6.29-0.39.rc1.git5.fc11.log | grep -v +
Building target platforms: ppc64
Building for target ppc64
Prep Start: Thu Jan 15 15:48:16 EST 2009
Prep End: Thu Jan 15 15:49:08 EST 2009
Build Start: Thu Jan 15 15:49:08 EST 2009
Build End: Thu Jan 15 16:22:57 EST 2009
Install Start: Thu Jan 15 16:22:57 EST 2009
Install End: Thu Jan 15 16:23:35 EST 2009


The overall time is slightly faster than the koji builds I've seen by
a few minutes.  This is somewhat expected, as my box wasn't really
doing much else at the time and some of the builders are blades with
fewer cores and slower hard drives.

Since I had nothing better to do in my sad life, I was watching the top
output a bit during one of my builds.  I noticed that when rpmbuild
got to the part where it was writing out the -debuginfo RPM, it took
almost 18 minutes.  Why this is, I have no idea.

For gits and shiggles, I grabbed the config from the resulting RPM and
used it with a 'time make -j4' on Linus' latest git tree:

real28m46.829s
user70m30.520s
sys 7m43.533s

So the build time seems roughly equivalent.  Yay for doing stuff that
garners no new insight!

josh

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Re: KVM Switch Suggestions -- Are The Ebay Cheapies Okay?

2009-01-16 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 15 January 2009 23:56:12 Robert L Cochran wrote:
 Are the no-name-brand, two-port, USB 2.0 PS2 KVM switch boxes with two
 cables which sell for $14.99 and free shipping on EBay any good? Here is
 an example: item 140294824343 from seller insidecomputer. Recent
 discussions (from 2007) suggest IOGear and Trendnet switches as good
 brands. If I can get a cheap switch that works, though, I'm willing to
 do it.

I've seen a lot of message from people having trouble with KVMs.  I did have a 
Belkin, but it was a serial connector type, not USB.  I had no problems at 
alll with that, running two Linux boxes.  If you can find one of those and you 
have serial ports on the boxes you want to use, I'd say buy this.  It may be 
old technology, but it works.

Anne


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Scripting - SMS when there is a login

2009-01-16 Thread Leon Vergottini
Hi

My manager tasked me with writing a script that will SMS a notification when
someone logs in to our Linux server.  The requirements are
1.  Capture any login to the server
2.  Create a csv file
3.  Copy the csv file to a Windows SMS server

I am really streched here because I have no knowlegde of scripting
whatsoever.  I have Googling the whole day without getting something
definitefly.

Regards
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thanks, computerworld!

2009-01-16 Thread Robert P. J. Day

IT Professional,

Did you know that Linux® maintains its relevance for low-level tasks
while remaining highly useful elsewhere in the data center?

  well, slap me with a halibut and send me to alaska!  thanks,
computerworld, i had no idea.  :-P

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how to identify the missing perl module to be installed

2009-01-16 Thread Robert P. J. Day

  is there a quick way to map a perl module to its corresponding
package to be installed?  someone just dumped a perl script on one of
my systems, and it fails with:

  Can't locate IO/Uncompress/Gunzip.pm in @INC ... etc etc 

fair enough, so which of the perl module packages would i need to
install?  taking a shot in the dark, on one of my other systems, i
ran:

$ yum search perl-IO-Compress
... snip ...
perl-IO-Compress-Base.i386 : Base Class for IO::Compress modules
perl-IO-Compress-Bzip2.noarch : Perl interface to allow reading and writing of 
bzip2 data
perl-IO-Compress-Zlib.i386 : Perl interface to allow reading and writing of 
gzip and zip data

$ rpm -qi perl-IO-Compress-Base
...
This module is the base class for all IO::Compress and IO::Uncompress
modules.
$

  so that kind of gives it away, but what if i wasn't such a lucky
guesser?  is there a mapping utility from module to RPM package?
thanks.

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Re: Scripting - SMS when there is a login

2009-01-16 Thread Veli-Pekka Kestilä

Leon Vergottini wrote:
My manager tasked me with writing a script that will SMS a 
notification when someone logs in to our Linux server.  The 
requirements are

1.  Capture any login to the server
You have two ways of doing this with pam or with logfiles. You could use 
pam_preprofile module or write your own pam module if using pam. For log 
files look for some packages parsing logfiles or do your own script to 
do it.

2.  Create a csv file
3.  Copy the csv file to a Windows SMS server
 
I am really streched here because I have no knowlegde of scripting 
whatsoever.  I have Googling the whole day without getting something 
definitefly.
Well, you need to do some scripting to get this done. Either start 
learning or get someone to do it for you. (Although that someone might 
want money for it) For scripting the things you need will probably be 
most easy with Perl or Python, but it's also possible to do it with 
shell script and using linux commadline utilities like sed and so on.


So if you are up to the task just find some books on the scripting 
languages and google for pam that pam module or howto write pam module.


Veli-Pekka

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Re: KVM Switch Suggestions -- Are The Ebay Cheapies Okay?

2009-01-16 Thread jack wallen



Robert L Cochran wrote:

jack wallen wrote:
  

Robert L Cochran wrote:


Are the no-name-brand, two-port, USB 2.0 PS2 KVM switch boxes with two
cables which sell for $14.99 and free shipping on EBay any good? Here is
an example: item 140294824343 from seller insidecomputer. Recent
discussions (from 2007) suggest IOGear and Trendnet switches as good
brands. If I can get a cheap switch that works, though, I'm willing to
do it.

Thanks

Bob Cochran
Greenbelt, Maryland, USA

  
  

avoid them. i bought one on ebay - a cheap USB one. it did two things:
prevented Fedora from being able to read the modes from the monitor so
I couldn't get proper resolution and, even worse, killed every usb
port on my system. i now have to get a PCI usb card in order to use
any USB device.

so, yeah, i wouldn't bother.


That's a rather convincing damage report. I was really tempted to get
the el cheapo units. I'm looking at IOGear KVMs now.

Bob

  
i will say i have a cheap Belkin PS/2 KVM that has never caused me any 
problems. only thing with that is it is only a two port.


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Fedora 10 boot screen

2009-01-16 Thread Gregory Hosler
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Hi all,

I have installed F-10 on several machines. A HP proliant, a T42, and a Dell D620

On the T42, when it's booting, there's a nice graphical (kinda like a blue
planet exploding :) in the lower right. There is also a back splash with the
Fedora logo (centered, and smallish), with a progress bar (centered) just below
that.

On the other 2 installations, There's this quarter inch / 2cm high progress
meter bar that spans the width of the screen.

I'd like to get the what I see on the T42 (splash screen, graphical UI) on my
other installations.

I've tried copying the grub files from /usr/share/grub/i386-redhat/, 
reinstalling the MBR.

I've checksum'ed the files in /boot/grub, and aside from grub.conf, the files 
are bit for
bit, byte for byte identical...

I can't see what's causing/allowing the T42 to have the fancier boot screen...

Anyone know about this?

All the best,

- -Greg

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Re: Fedora 10 boot screen

2009-01-16 Thread phil smith

Gregory Hosler wrote:

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Hi all,

I have installed F-10 on several machines. A HP proliant, a T42, and a Dell D620

On the T42, when it's booting, there's a nice graphical (kinda like a blue
planet exploding :) in the lower right. There is also a back splash with the
Fedora logo (centered, and smallish), with a progress bar (centered) just below
that.

On the other 2 installations, There's this quarter inch / 2cm high progress
meter bar that spans the width of the screen.

I'd like to get the what I see on the T42 (splash screen, graphical UI) on my
other installations.

I've tried copying the grub files from /usr/share/grub/i386-redhat/, 
reinstalling the MBR.

I've checksum'ed the files in /boot/grub, and aside from grub.conf, the files 
are bit for
bit, byte for byte identical...

I can't see what's causing/allowing the T42 to have the fancier boot screen...

Anyone know about this?

All the best,

- -Greg

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+-+

Please also check the log file at /dev/null for additional information.
(from /var/log/Xorg.setup.log)

| Greg Hosler   ghos...@redhat.com|
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google plymouth boot screen work arounds ;-)

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Re: how to identify the missing perl module to be installed

2009-01-16 Thread Paul Flo Williams

Robert P. J. Day wrote:

  is there a quick way to map a perl module to its corresponding
package to be installed?  someone just dumped a perl script on one of
my systems, and it fails with:

  Can't locate IO/Uncompress/Gunzip.pm in @INC ... etc etc 


yum whatprovides 'perl(IO::Uncompress::Gunzip)'

says that package perl-IO-Compress-Zlib provides it.


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Re: HOWTO: Use KDE 3 from F8 on F10

2009-01-16 Thread Rex Dieter
Kevin Kofler wrote:

 Roberto Ragusa wrote:

 I'm not writing all the details here now, but if anyone is
 interested, I can do it (and publish the spec files if
 someone wants to try).
 
 Please don't. We don't want our users to run unsupported software, and we
 especially don't want you to make it easy for them to do that.

As long as Roberto makes it clear that making such changes are unsupported, 
and if anything breaks, you're on your own and get to keep the pieces... 

That said, I would have much preferred that folks (like Roberto) who 
want/need KDE3 made more effort to work *with* fedora and and the fedora 
kde-sig to try to make sure everything is kosher.  I've extended quite a few 
invitations for such in the past... without any takers, so far.  *shrug*.  

Not that I was expecting any.  I'll be honest to say that my ulterior motive 
was that as soon as anyone took a look at this closely and seriously, they'd 
soon find out how difficult (perhaps impossible) a problem it was...

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Re: Upgrade and SELinux messages

2009-01-16 Thread Daniel J Walsh
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Les wrote:
 I upgraded from F8 to F10.  It appeared to go smoothly, but then I 
 received the following SELinux errors:
 
 //
 /** first 
 
 Summary:
 
 SELinux is preventing dbus-daemon-lau (system_dbusd_t) execute to
 ./console-kit-daemon (consolekit_exec_t).
 
 Detailed Description:
 
 SELinux denied access requested by dbus-daemon-lau. It is not expected
 that this access is required by dbus-daemon-lau and this access may
 signal an intrusion attempt. It is also possible that the specific
 version or configuration of the application is causing it to require
 additional access. 
 
 Allowing Access:
 
 Sometimes labeling problems can cause SELinux denials. You could try to
 restore
 the default system file context for ./console-kit-daemon,
 
 restorecon -v './console-kit-daemon'
 
 
 Additional Information:
 
 Source Context
 system_u:system_r:system_dbusd_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
 Target Contextsystem_u:object_r:consolekit_exec_t:s0
 Target Objects./console-kit-daemon [ file ]
 Sourcedbus-daemon-lau
 Source Path   /lib/dbus-1/dbus-daemon-launch-helper
 Port  Unknown
 Host  localhost.localdomain
 Source RPM Packages   dbus-1.2.4-1.fc10
 Target RPM Packages   
 Policy RPMselinux-policy-3.5.13-18.fc10
 Selinux Enabled   True
 Policy Type   targeted
 MLS Enabled   True
 Enforcing ModeEnforcing
 Plugin Name   catchall_file
 Host Name localhost.localdomain
 Platform  Linux localhost.localdomain
 2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686
   #1 SMP Tue Nov 18 12:19:59 EST 2008 i686
 i686
 Alert Count   35
 First SeenThu 15 Jan 2009 03:45:37 PM PST
 Last Seen Thu 15 Jan 2009 03:47:19 PM PST
 Local ID  a0430578-0415-40c9-ac4e-b9f86d3b479c
 Line Numbers  
 
 Raw Audit Messages
 
 node=localhost.localdomain type=AVC msg=audit(1232063239.982:58): avc:
 denied  { execute } for  pid=3010 comm=dbus-daemon-lau
 name=console-kit-daemon dev=dm-0 ino=54362144
 scontext=system_u:system_r:system_dbusd_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
 tcontext=system_u:object_r:consolekit_exec_t:s0 tclass=file
 
 node=localhost.localdomain type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1232063239.982:58):
 arch=4003 syscall=11 success=no exit=-13 a0=8f08e48 a1=8f08dc8
 a2=8f08008 a3=2d09bc items=0 ppid=3009 pid=3010 auid=4294967295 uid=0
 gid=0 euid=0 suid=0 fsuid=0 egid=0 sgid=0 fsgid=0 tty=(none)
 ses=4294967295 comm=dbus-daemon-lau
 exe=/lib/dbus-1/dbus-daemon-launch-helper
 subj=system_u:system_r:system_dbusd_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 key=(null)
 
 ###
 ### The restorecon mentioned returned an error that the file doesn't 
 ### exist.
 
 //
 /** second
 
 Summary:
 
 SELinux is preventing plymouthd from creating a file with a context of
 unlabeled_t on a filesystem.
 
 Detailed Description:
 
 SELinux is preventing plymouthd from creating a file with a context of
 unlabeled_t on a filesystem. Usually this happens when you ask the cp
 command to
 maintain the context of a file when copying between file systems, cp
 -a for
 example. Not all file contexts should be maintained between the file
 systems.
 For example, a read-only file type like iso9660_t should not be placed
 on a r/w
 system. cp -P might be a better solution, as this will adopt the
 default file
 context for the destination.
 
 Allowing Access:
 
 Use a command like cp -P to preserve all permissions except SELinux
 context.
 
 Additional Information:
 
 Source Contextsystem_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0
 Target Contextsystem_u:object_r:fs_t:s0
 Target Objectsforce-display-on-active-vt [ filesystem ]
 Sourceplymouthd
 Source Path   Unknown
 Port  Unknown
 Host  localhost.localdomain
 Source RPM Packages   
 Target RPM Packages   
 Policy RPMselinux-policy-3.5.13-18.fc10
 Selinux Enabled   True
 Policy Type   targeted
 MLS Enabled   True
 Enforcing ModeEnforcing
 Plugin Name   filesystem_associate
 Host Name localhost.localdomain
 Platform  Linux localhost.localdomain
 2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686
   #1 SMP Tue Nov 18 12:19:59 EST 2008 i686
 i686
 Alert Count   1
 First SeenThu 15 Jan 2009 03:45:42 PM PST
 Last Seen Thu 15 Jan 2009 03:45:42 PM PST
 Local ID  

Re: debuginfo-install failing for libtdb - just me ?

2009-01-16 Thread David Timms

Rahul Sundaram wrote:

File it.

fyi: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=480316

DaveT.

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Gnome terminal

2009-01-16 Thread Theodore Papadopoulo

   Hi,

I recently upgraded from Fedora 7 to Fedora 10.
One thing that midly annoys me is that whenever I'm starting up a new 
terminal
(from the menu in the background not form the menu in the panel), the 
new terminal

starts with a current work dir being ~/Desktop (instead of ~/).

Is this an upgrade problem or something that has been changed. In the 
later case,

is there a way to restore the f7 behaviour (ie cwd being ~/).

 Thank's a lot for any insight.

   Theo.

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Re: Gnome terminal

2009-01-16 Thread Stephen Berg (Contractor)

Theodore Papadopoulo wrote:

   Hi,

I recently upgraded from Fedora 7 to Fedora 10.
One thing that midly annoys me is that whenever I'm starting up a new 
terminal
(from the menu in the background not form the menu in the panel), the 
new terminal

starts with a current work dir being ~/Desktop (instead of ~/).

Is this an upgrade problem or something that has been changed. In the 
later case,

is there a way to restore the f7 behaviour (ie cwd being ~/).

 Thank's a lot for any insight.

   Theo.


Run gconf-editor
Check the box under /Apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir

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Re: rkhunter Question.

2009-01-16 Thread Paulo Cavalcanti
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@verizon.netwrote:

 On Sunday 11 January 2009, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
 On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:29:49 +
 
 John Horne john.ho...@plymouth.ac.uk wrote:
  On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 15:22 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
   On Thursday 08 January 2009, John Horne wrote:
 
 ...snip...
 
   Should the rpm installer have over written them?  I dunno, there
   could be problems intro'd either way in this case.
 
  The rkhunter installer will not overwrite anything in /etc. The copies
  it takes of the files are for its own use and put into a separate
  secure directory. It is those files it looks for.
 
  Looking at the rkhunter 1.3.2 rpm spec file (as used for the Fedora
  package), it does not seem to take an initial copy of the files. So
  that would explain why you got the initial warning. However, as has
  already been replied, the spec file for 1.3.4 FC10 does do this
  initial copy (although I cannot personally verify that).
 
 Nope. Neither one does that. You need to run 'rkhunter --propupd' to
 get it to make copies of passwd/shadow and save file properties.
 
 The reason for that is that the package can't know anything about how
 much you trust your current install when it's installed. It's up to you
 to run the --propupd and tell it that you think the system is clean and
 that everything should be saved.
 
  John.
 
 kevin

 At the time I posted the original message, I had already done that with
 1.3.2,
 so I built 1.3.4, which did apparently do that properly when that operation
 was repeated.


I have run rkhunter --propupd many times, I do have  a copy of group and
passwd
in /var/run/rkhunter, but I always receive an email saying that there is no
copy
of group and passwd. Upgrading to 1.3.4 did not change anything. This
happens on every computer I have rkhunter installed.


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Re: Update revisor

2009-01-16 Thread Todd Denniston

Kevin Kofler wrote, On 01/15/2009 09:43 PM:

Terry Polzin wrote:

I'm running F8


Fedora 8 is no longer supported. Please upgrade.

Kevin Kofler


Kevin,
please re read what Terry wrote... upgrading is what he is asking about, 
though he is asking about how to do it with a specific tool.  granted I don't 
know if THAT tool can do the upgrade he is talking about.


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App to manage/track/spawn processes

2009-01-16 Thread bruce
Hi.

Not really a Fedora question, but maybe someone has thoughts on how to
implement this.

I've got a situation where I'm looking to have a process where I spawn off a
number of external apps. I'd like an app to manage the entire process of
creating/tracking the child apps. So basically, I'd like to be able to fire
off 10 copies of the child app, track the health/status of the child copies
while they're running, abd be able to continually fire off additional copies
of the child app when the number of running child apps gets below a given
threshold.

Of course I'd like to know if I'm already running a given child app, so I
only have a child app with the same input args running once. I'd also like
to be able to track when a child app is halted/stuck, so I can gracefully
kill it, and restart it...

Any thoughts on any kind of open source app that does this, or gets close...
I started to architect a quick solution to this when I couldn't find
anything on the 'net, but figured I'f ping here as well.

Comments/Thoughts are good.

thanks!!


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preupgrade question

2009-01-16 Thread Aaron Konstam
Am I correct if I am trying to use preupgrade to upgrade from F9 to F10
I am going to have trouble is in F9 the /boot is not a separate
partition?
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Re: How do I allow automatic non root access to my non standard USB device ?

2009-01-16 Thread Todd Denniston

Linuxguy123 wrote, On 01/15/2009 04:04 PM:

I'm doing some embedded development and my flash programmer has a USB
interface.  Everything works fine if I program the device as root, but
I'd like to be able to do it as a regular user.  I get port permission
errors if I try to run the programmer as a regular user.

$ lsusb

SNIP

Bus 007 Device 006: ID 15ba:0003 Olimex Ltd. OpenOCD JTAG

SNIP


My programmer is the Olimex Ltd. OpenOCD JTAG device on bus 7.

The documentation for the device says it needs access to /proc/bus/usb.

I can allow regular user access by manually issuing a chown command for
the port, but then I'd have to do it every time I reboot or unplug the
programmer.   How do I set it up to happen automatically in F10 ?



suggestion: find the udev|hal rules for allowing the console logged in user to 
use the sound card, and mimic them for your device.


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Re: Any way to install new Fedora on second drive of a running system?

2009-01-16 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 18:27 -0500, Chris Snook wrote:
 B Wooster wrote:
  I wonder if this can be done - I'm have a system that is running Fedora 
  Core 7.
  
  I want to avoid shutting down and rebooting and spending the hours to
  install Fedora 10 on this.
  
  I do have a second drive in this system that is not being used.
  
  So, wondering if I could run some special install program, that
  formats, partitions the second drive, installs Fedora 10, allows me to
  select and update and install packages.
  
  Then after I'm done, I'll just boot using the second drive.
  
  Is this possible?
  
 
 The short answer is no.  The long answer is yes, but it's way more trouble 
 than 
 it's worth.  Last time I checked, installing F10 only took a few minutes.  
 Just 
 wait until you've booted up into it before you install every single package 
 in 
 the distro.
 
 -- Chris
 
I don't understand your answer Chris.. The answer is clearly yes. That
is what people do when they install Fedora on a machine with Windows.
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Re: mount question [SOLVED]

2009-01-16 Thread Steve

 Mikkel L. Ellertson mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote: 

  I'll try changing the type from fuse to ntfs tonight and see what
  that does. The error message of permission denied leads me to
  think that this will not solve the problem but hey, I've been wrong
  before...1982 I think it was... ;-D
  
  I have to say though that I am really suprised that nobody on this
  list can give a simple answer to the seemingly simple question of
  how do I change the mount point of a hard drive.
  
  Steve.
  
 Maybe it is more of a problem with the subject that you used?
 Something on the order of:
 
 /dev/sdb1 /mnt/c_drive ntfs-3g options 0 0
 
 It worked fine for me in F8 for mounting a NTFS partition.
 (Different names...)

Thanks, Mikkel. 
The solution was as simple as using the correct type, ntfs-3g, in the 
/etc/fstab file.
My Windows partition is now mounted n the correct place which allowed my USB 
drive to go back to /media/disk instead of /media/disk-1 and so now my backups 
are working again. I completed full backups last night and so my next task is 
to upgrade to F9 using a DVD since preupgrade doesn't work for me.

I'm still left with many questions that I think are not so easy to answer.

What overwrote my fstab file in the first place?
Why did it get overwritten without any notification?
Why did whatever overwrote it decide for me that my Windows partition should be 
removed?
Why does mount report that a filesystem is of type fuseblk when the type 
requested was ntfs-3g?
Why is there no mention of type fuseblk in the mount man page or in the fstab 
man page?man mount
Why does mount report permission denied instead of something like bad type 
when it gets an incorrect type?

Steve.

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Re: Any way to install new Fedora on second drive of a running system?

2009-01-16 Thread Antonio M
2009/1/16 Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net:
 On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 18:27 -0500, Chris Snook wrote:
 B Wooster wrote:
  I wonder if this can be done - I'm have a system that is running Fedora 
  Core 7.
 
  I want to avoid shutting down and rebooting and spending the hours to
  install Fedora 10 on this.
 
  I do have a second drive in this system that is not being used.
 
  So, wondering if I could run some special install program, that
  formats, partitions the second drive, installs Fedora 10, allows me to
  select and update and install packages.
 
  Then after I'm done, I'll just boot using the second drive.
 
  Is this possible?
 

 The short answer is no.  The long answer is yes, but it's way more trouble 
 than
 it's worth.  Last time I checked, installing F10 only took a few minutes.  
 Just
 wait until you've booted up into it before you install every single package 
 in
 the distro.

 -- Chris

 I don't understand your answer Chris.. The answer is clearly yes. That
 is what people do when they install Fedora on a machine with Windows.
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User wants to install on a running system, to be re-booted only after
installation, so the downtime would be only the time for re-booting!!!

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connectivity problems with FC10

2009-01-16 Thread Harry R.

Friends, I have installed FC10 (fresh install, new partitions, format all) and 
installation went 
fine, but the network connections.

I can connect to all machines on my own network, but Firefox 3 cannot, claiming 
that 
whatever http address I type in is wrong. Opera however works fine, and I can 
succesfully 
ping each and every website I can think off. 

Also, yum cannot install anything (it cannot find its repositories), evolution 
does not work 
(cant find my smtp provider) etc. 

I think I checked everything, resolve, hosts, ifconfig, route, installed the 
package three times 
now, checked cables, been reading on the Net for hours and I am now at the 
point of going 
mad. 

Anybody else having problems with FC10?



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Re: rkhunter Question.

2009-01-16 Thread John Horne
On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 12:18 -0200, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote:

 I have run rkhunter --propupd many times, I do have  a copy of group
 and passwd in /var/run/rkhunter, but I always receive an email saying
 that there is no copy of group and passwd. Upgrading to 1.3.4 did not
 change anything. This happens on every computer I have rkhunter
 installed.
 
Copying of the files does not happen when '--propupd' is used. It occurs
when the system is checked - using '--check' or more specifically when
the 'passwd_changes' and/or 'group_changes' tests are enabled.

Try running 'rkhunter --enable passwd_changes,group_changes --sk', and
then run it again. If the second one still produces a warning about the
files, then email me off list with a copy of your log file
(usually /var/log/rkhunter.log).



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hal rules (was: How do I allow automatic non root access to my non standard USB device ?)

2009-01-16 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:39:36 -0500
Todd Denniston wrote:

 suggestion: find the udev|hal rules for allowing the console logged in user 
 to 
 use the sound card, and mimic them for your device.

I always wonder about how to fiddle hal rules. I have found hal rules
in the past I wanted to change (like putting different permissions
on the device file it creates), but I know if I change the actual
rule file, then the next time there is a hal update that file
will get updated and my changes will disappear.

Is there some magic way to properly define hal rules that override
existing rules in the installed system files?

I usually wind up huddled in a corner in tears when I try to understand
this stuff :-).

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Re: preupgrade question

2009-01-16 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 08:34 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
 Am I correct if I am trying to use preupgrade to upgrade from F9 to F10
 I am going to have trouble is in F9 the /boot is not a separate
 partition?

I think that most people are in that boat.

I wouldn't say that you are going to have trouble...what does happen is
that it will attempt to download a bootable image which requires a wired
internet connection with dhcp so the network adaptor will configure
itself, obtain DNS and download the necessary boot image before
continuing on.

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Re: Setting gnome-terminal default size

2009-01-16 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 17:08 -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
 Is there any way to make gnome-terminal have a default size of (say) 
 90 wide x 30 high, rather than the system default of 80x24?  I am
 getting tired of setting the size every time I start the system.  
 
 Thanks - jon
 
gnome-terminal --geometry=20x60

will open a terminal 20 wide and 60 long. You can take it from there.
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Re: FC10, Could not start Kstartupconfig

2009-01-16 Thread Jim

Tim wrote:

On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 15:57 -0500, Jim wrote:
  
Had to reinstall box with KDE and when partitioning I left the 
/home/users directories alone.
after installation i had to put the users back in with passwords (no 
change in username and password)
Out of five users when trying to log back into two users I get this 
error message , Could not start Kstartupconfig

, and I can't get into their home directories.



How did you create the new user logins?

I'm guessing that you just added new users, one by one, and didn't add
them in the same order as the first time around.  So that some user
names have the same user ID (numerical), and some don't.

  
Most likely that's what i did and I wasn't aware of that, ol well learn 
the hard way.


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Re: connectivity problems with FC10

2009-01-16 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 16 January 2009 14:52:33 Harry R. wrote:
 Friends, I have installed FC10 (fresh install, new partitions, format all)
 and installation went fine, but the network connections.

 I can connect to all machines on my own network, but Firefox 3 cannot,
 claiming that whatever http address I type in is wrong. Opera however works
 fine, and I can succesfully ping each and every website I can think off.

 Also, yum cannot install anything (it cannot find its repositories),
 evolution does not work (cant find my smtp provider) etc.

 I think I checked everything, resolve, hosts, ifconfig, route, installed
 the package three times now, checked cables, been reading on the Net for
 hours and I am now at the point of going mad.

 Anybody else having problems with FC10?

No problem here

Anne


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Re: rkhunter Question.

2009-01-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 16 January 2009, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote:
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Gene Heskett 
gene.hesk...@verizon.netwrote:
 On Sunday 11 January 2009, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
 On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:29:49 +
 
 John Horne john.ho...@plymouth.ac.uk wrote:
  On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 15:22 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
   On Thursday 08 January 2009, John Horne wrote:
 
 ...snip...
 
   Should the rpm installer have over written them?  I dunno, there
   could be problems intro'd either way in this case.
 
  The rkhunter installer will not overwrite anything in /etc. The copies
  it takes of the files are for its own use and put into a separate
  secure directory. It is those files it looks for.
 
  Looking at the rkhunter 1.3.2 rpm spec file (as used for the Fedora
  package), it does not seem to take an initial copy of the files. So
  that would explain why you got the initial warning. However, as has
  already been replied, the spec file for 1.3.4 FC10 does do this
  initial copy (although I cannot personally verify that).
 
 Nope. Neither one does that. You need to run 'rkhunter --propupd' to
 get it to make copies of passwd/shadow and save file properties.
 
 The reason for that is that the package can't know anything about how
 much you trust your current install when it's installed. It's up to you
 to run the --propupd and tell it that you think the system is clean and
 that everything should be saved.
 
  John.
 
 kevin

 At the time I posted the original message, I had already done that with
 1.3.2,
 so I built 1.3.4, which did apparently do that properly when that
 operation was repeated.

I have run rkhunter --propupd many times, I do have  a copy of group and
passwd
in /var/run/rkhunter, but I always receive an email saying that there is no
copy
of group and passwd. Upgrading to 1.3.4 did not change anything. This
happens on every computer I have rkhunter installed.

It is running here, silently. I added the two files it thought were funkity to 
the config and haven't had a message from it since.  And I did have the - 
copies in /etc.

I think it was these two it was fussing about:
/var/lib/rkhunter/tmp/group
/var/lib/rkhunter/tmp/passwd
But they weren't created till I did the -propupd with 1.3.4.

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Re: mount question

2009-01-16 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Aldo Foot wrote:
 
 My understanding is that in /media the OS expects to find removable media
 such as usb drives. The /mnt mount point is for nfs and local filesystems.
 Those mount points are sort of designated places for specific filesystems.
 
 Please shed some light if I'm wrong.
 ~af
 
My understanding is that /media is used as a mount point for things
that are not found in /etc/fstab, and are detected by HAL. HAL
mounts them there so the the console user can access them. The user
normally can not create directories in /mnt.

This is different from automount, where the directories are already
there. Automount mounts the specified file system when someone tries
to access it.

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Re: connectivity problems with FC10

2009-01-16 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 15:52 +0100, Harry R. wrote:
 Friends, I have installed FC10 (fresh install, new partitions, format all) 
 and installation went 
 fine, but the network connections.
 
 I can connect to all machines on my own network, but Firefox 3 cannot, 
 claiming that 
 whatever http address I type in is wrong. Opera however works fine, and I can 
 succesfully 
 ping each and every website I can think off. 
 
 Also, yum cannot install anything (it cannot find its repositories), 
 evolution does not work 
 (cant find my smtp provider) etc. 
 
 I think I checked everything, resolve, hosts, ifconfig, route, installed the 
 package three times 
 now, checked cables, been reading on the Net for hours and I am now at the 
 point of going 
 mad. 
 
 Anybody else having problems with FC10?

no but you might try disabling ipv6 in Firefox which *might* be causing
DNS lookup timeouts.

Start Firefox
type 'about:config' in address bar and press 'Enter'
agree to the warning
locate the following setting and double click it to change the value
from false to true
network.dns.disable.IPv6

It should be 'bold' indicating that it is changed from default value

Try using Firefox

Craig

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Re: How do I allow automatic non root access to my non standard USB device ?

2009-01-16 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Linuxguy123 wrote:
 I'm doing some embedded development and my flash programmer has a USB
 interface.  Everything works fine if I program the device as root, but
 I'd like to be able to do it as a regular user.  I get port permission
 errors if I try to run the programmer as a regular user.
 
 $ lsusb
 Bus 002 Device 003: ID 064e:a101 Suyin Corp. Laptop integrated WebCam
 Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
 Bus 007 Device 006: ID 15ba:0003 Olimex Ltd. OpenOCD JTAG
 Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
 Bus 006 Device 002: ID 046d:c512 Logitech, Inc. LX-700 Cordless Desktop
 Receiver
 Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
 Bus 005 Device 004: ID 067b:2303 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2303 Serial
 Port
 Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
 Bus 001 Device 004: ID 07ca:a321 AVerMedia Technologies, Inc.
 Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
 Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
 Bus 003 Device 003: ID 03f0:171d Hewlett-Packard Wireless (Bluetooth +
 WLAN) Interface [Integrated Module]
 Bus 003 Device 002: ID 08ff:2580 AuthenTec, Inc. AES2501 Fingerprint
 Sensor
 Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
 
 
 My programmer is the Olimex Ltd. OpenOCD JTAG device on bus 7.
 
 The documentation for the device says it needs access to /proc/bus/usb.
 
 I can allow regular user access by manually issuing a chown command for
 the port, but then I'd have to do it every time I reboot or unplug the
 programmer.   How do I set it up to happen automatically in F10 ?
 
 Thanks !
 
One way is to create a udev rule that sets the permission for the
device. You may also want to create a symlink to a consistant device
name at the same time.

If there isn't a device created for it, it gets a bit more
interesting. I have a small script that I call from the udev rule
that sets the permissions for the specific device in /proc/bus/usb.
I actually wrote it for use with VirtualBox, but it should work for you.



# Rules for VirtualBox USB devices.

ACTION!=add,SUBSYSTEM!=usb, GOTO=vbox_rules_end

# eBookwise eBook reader.
ATTR{idVendor}==0993, ATTR{idProduct}==0002,
run=/lib/udev/set-usb-group %s{uevent}

LABEL=vbox_rules_end



#! /bin/sh
ret=false
if [ $DEVICE !=  ]; then
 if [ -e $DEVICE ]; then
  chgrp vboxusers $DEVICE  \
  chmod g+rw $DEVICE  \
  logger udev/set-usb-group: $(ls -l $DEVICE)
ret=true
 fi
fi



The group is hard coded in the script, and it only give group
permissions, but that is easy to change. One of these days I will
get around to cleaning it up, and let it get the
user/group/permissions as input.

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Re: Gnome terminal

2009-01-16 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 14:37 +0100, Theodore Papadopoulo wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I recently upgraded from Fedora 7 to Fedora 10.
 One thing that midly annoys me is that whenever I'm starting up a new 
 terminal
 (from the menu in the background not form the menu in the panel), the 
 new terminal
 starts with a current work dir being ~/Desktop (instead of ~/).
 
 Is this an upgrade problem or something that has been changed. In the 
 later case,
 is there a way to restore the f7 behaviour (ie cwd being ~/).
 
   Thank's a lot for any insight.
 
 Theo.
 
I could have sworn that there was an option for this in Configuration
Editor (or .gconf) but I cannot find it, so that is not much help.
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Re: Need help with WLAN on Eee PC 1000H

2009-01-16 Thread Jim

Adalbert Prokop wrote:

fred smith schrieb:

Hello!

  

And there's no need to compile it for f10 either. Just add the
RPM FUsion free and nonfree repositories then use add/remove software
to add the kmod or akmod packages for the rt2860 driver. Voila.



Well, my experience say otherwise... Voilà is not true. I just installed
the akmod-rt2860 driver and restored the virgin wpa_supplicant.conf to
please NM. But still no progress in this matter.

  

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=199434
  


If this procedure does not succeed the next thing I will try is to
backup F10 and restore the original WinXP. Then I'll connect to my AP
and pull the battery. I suspect the Windows driver to leave the chipset
in a dorment state. It's only a wild guess but I have no other idea.

  
Did FC10 possibly setup a driver for it before you installed the kmod 
driver ?
If so that FC10 driver must be blacklisted in /etc/depmod.d/blacklist 
file or the kmod driver will conflict with the FC10 driver.


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Re: preupgrade question

2009-01-16 Thread M A Young

On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Craig White wrote:


I wouldn't say that you are going to have trouble...what does happen is
that it will attempt to download a bootable image which requires a wired
internet connection with dhcp so the network adaptor will configure
itself, obtain DNS and download the necessary boot image before
continuing on.


I think that is only the case if you don't have enough space in /boot to 
put the images there when preupgrade is run and if /boot is actually part 
of the / filesystem then that is unlikely to be a problem.


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Re: how to identify the missing perl module to be installed

2009-01-16 Thread Jake Peavy
On 1/16/09, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote:


   is there a quick way to map a perl module to its corresponding
 package to be installed?  someone just dumped a perl script on one of
 my systems, and it fails with:

   Can't locate IO/Uncompress/Gunzip.pm in @INC ... etc etc 

 fair enough, so which of the perl module packages would i need to
 install?  taking a shot in the dark, on one of my other systems, i
 ran:

 $ yum search perl-IO-Compress
 ...


**
perl -MCPAN -e 'install IO::Uncompress::Gunzip'

provided your CPAN module has been configured.

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Re: No system-config-display, so what now?

2009-01-16 Thread Tom Horsley
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:16:14 -0600
Aaron Konstam wrote:

 The help data
 for gnome-terminal says you can use the --geometry option and to look at
 man X for further details.

Ah, but conveniently, the X11 docs are left out of the default install.
If you yum install xorg-x11-docs, then you will have an X man page :-).

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F10 Installation: Unable use Add/remove packages or Yum

2009-01-16 Thread Daniel B. Thurman


F-10 Repository:
Fedora 10 - i386
Fedora 10 - Updates

1. Add/Remove Software:
No results were found.
Try entering a package name in the search bar.

2. Yum update
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Could not retrieve mirror list 
http://mirros.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-10arch=i386 
error was

[Errno 4] IOError: urlopen error (-2, 'Name or service not known')
Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: 
fedora,

Please verify its path and try again.

What do I need to do to fix this, please?

[ Notes:
1) I had to type this all out by hand - could not get Places-Networks
   working, no matter what I tried.  Network access to LAN works, but
   somehow, browsing of network via SMB does not work, and yes, I did
   use the System-Administration-Authentication SMB settings
   as there was nothing else available that I can see to configure
   smb, other than manually editing the /etc/samba/smb.conf file,
   but even my changes to this file does not seem to work either.

2) Gparted would have been a nice addition to the LiveCD as I
   use it regularly to prepare the drive before handing it off to
   the installer, imo.
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Re: KVM Switch Suggestions -- Are The Ebay Cheapies Okay?

2009-01-16 Thread Les
On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 21:53 -0500, jack wallen wrote:
 Robert L Cochran wrote:
  Are the no-name-brand, two-port, USB 2.0 PS2 KVM switch boxes with two
  cables which sell for $14.99 and free shipping on EBay any good? Here is
  an example: item 140294824343 from seller insidecomputer. Recent
  discussions (from 2007) suggest IOGear and Trendnet switches as good
  brands. If I can get a cheap switch that works, though, I'm willing to
  do it.
 
  Thanks
 
  Bob Cochran
  Greenbelt, Maryland, USA
 

 avoid them. i bought one on ebay - a cheap USB one. it did two things:
 prevented Fedora from being able to read the modes from the monitor so I 
 couldn't get proper resolution and, even worse, killed every usb port on 
 my system. i now have to get a PCI usb card in order to use any USB device.
 
 so, yeah, i wouldn't bother.
 
If all the USB ports are dead, then the power supply for those ports (5v
@1A/port) has probably blown a fuse or component.  You may be able to
get it fixed.

Regards,
Les H

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Re: Fedora 10 boot screen

2009-01-16 Thread Shannon McMackin

phil smith wrote:

Gregory Hosler wrote:

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Hi all,

I have installed F-10 on several machines. A HP proliant, a T42, and a 
Dell D620


On the T42, when it's booting, there's a nice graphical (kinda like a 
blue
planet exploding :) in the lower right. There is also a back splash 
with the
Fedora logo (centered, and smallish), with a progress bar (centered) 
just below

that.

On the other 2 installations, There's this quarter inch / 2cm high 
progress

meter bar that spans the width of the screen.

I'd like to get the what I see on the T42 (splash screen, graphical 
UI) on my

other installations.

I've tried copying the grub files from /usr/share/grub/i386-redhat/, 
reinstalling the MBR.


I've checksum'ed the files in /boot/grub, and aside from grub.conf, 
the files are bit for

bit, byte for byte identical...

I can't see what's causing/allowing the T42 to have the fancier boot 
screen...


Anyone know about this?

All the best,

- -Greg

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Please also check the log file at /dev/null for additional information.
(from /var/log/Xorg.setup.log)

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google plymouth boot screen work arounds ;-)

Simply, add a VGA= statement to your kernel line in /etc/grub.conf.  On 
my T61 it's 0x318.  If you add VGA=ASK, it'll prompt you with a list of 
resolutions and depth.


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Re: Any way to install new Fedora on second drive of a running system?

2009-01-16 Thread Phil Meyer

B Wooster wrote:

I wonder if this can be done - I'm have a system that is running Fedora Core 7.

I want to avoid shutting down and rebooting and spending the hours to
install Fedora 10 on this.

I do have a second drive in this system that is not being used.

So, wondering if I could run some special install program, that
formats, partitions the second drive, installs Fedora 10, allows me to
select and update and install packages.

Then after I'm done, I'll just boot using the second drive.

Is this possible?

  


If your system is capable of running a virtual machine, then yes.

I do this all the time as a matter of my work.

You will need the DVD image as an iso file.

Run the emulator pointing its cdrom to your iso, and pointing your 
second hard drive as iits primary.


And away you go!

here is an example:

$ sudo qemu-kvm -hda /dev/sdb -cdrom F10.iso  -boot d -net user -net nic 
-m 1024


If your system does not support kvm, then just use qemu.
The actual name of the .iso file will be different from my example, of 
course.

MAKE SURE /dev/sdb is the drive you want to wipe.

CAVEAT EMPTOR:

grub will be installed on the second drive.  You will need to add one by 
hand to the running system for it to show on the normal list -- or -- 
boot it from the BIOS boot menu.  This usually is by pressing F8 or F12 
or some other key during the BIOS processing to get a boot menu.


You may want to hit ALTF2 at the REBOOT prompt and clean out the 
/etc/udev/rules.d/*persistant* files before booting it up the first 
time.  For this reason, I always install in text mode.  Its a PITA to do 
a CNTRLALTF2!!!



Good Luck!

Good luck!

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Re: F10 Installation: Unable use Add/remove packages or Yum

2009-01-16 Thread Daniel B. Thurman

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:


F-10 Repository:
Fedora 10 - i386
Fedora 10 - Updates

1. Add/Remove Software:
No results were found.
Try entering a package name in the search bar.

2. Yum update
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Could not retrieve mirror list 
http://mirros.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-10arch=i386 
error was

[Errno 4] IOError: urlopen error (-2, 'Name or service not known')
Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for 
repository: fedora,

Please verify its path and try again.

It appears, the for me, NetworkManager is not working correctly,
so I used network instead.  I am able to get access to all local lans
and FireFox works only for local connections - not for Internet
(outside) connections. I found a real quirk with the network tool,
it messes up the settings badly, like placing Default router into
Netmask.  Very odd, so I had to edit /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-*
(and checked Networking) and manually enter the correct values.  I have
had to do this before in F8 and in F9.  Seems like a reoccurring theme.

Clearly, I am unable to get the F10 to reach the default router
(or so it seems), so I checked the routing tables:

# route
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask  Flags  Metric   Ref
Use   Iface
10.1.0.0*255.255.255.0   U  
0   00  eth0
link-local *255.255.0.0   U  
0   00  eth0
default   sonic0.0.0.0   UG   
0   00  eth0


Which matches my F9 routing tables.

I cannot figure out why I cannot reach the Internet (default router)
as I am able to access the entire local LAN system...  What am I
missing here?


What do I need to do to fix this, please?

[ Notes:
1) I had to type this all out by hand - could not get Places-Networks
   working, no matter what I tried.  Network access to LAN works, but
   somehow, browsing of network via SMB does not work, and yes, I did
   use the System-Administration-Authentication SMB settings
   as there was nothing else available that I can see to configure
   smb, other than manually editing the /etc/samba/smb.conf file,
   but even my changes to this file does not seem to work either.

  Update: Samba was blocked by Firewall by default.  Checking
  Samba in Firewall tool enables the Places-Network to appear.


2) Gparted would have been a nice addition to the LiveCD as I
   use it regularly to prepare the drive before handing it off to
   the installer, imo.
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Re: Gnome terminal

2009-01-16 Thread Theodore Papadopoulo

Stephen Berg (Contractor) wrote:

Theodore Papadopoulo wrote:

   Hi,

I recently upgraded from Fedora 7 to Fedora 10.
One thing that midly annoys me is that whenever I'm starting up a new 
terminal
(from the menu in the background not form the menu in the panel), the 
new terminal

starts with a current work dir being ~/Desktop (instead of ~/).

Is this an upgrade problem or something that has been changed. In the 
later case,

is there a way to restore the f7 behaviour (ie cwd being ~/).

 Thank's a lot for any insight.

   Theo.


Run gconf-editor
Check the box under /Apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir


Thank's a lot for this quick answer !!

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Re: F10 Installation: Unable use Add/remove packages or Yum

2009-01-16 Thread Daniel B. Thurman

Ralf Corsepius wrote:

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:


F-10 Repository:
Fedora 10 - i386
Fedora 10 - Updates

1. Add/Remove Software:
No results were found.
Try entering a package name in the search bar.

2. Yum update
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Could not retrieve mirror list 
http://mirros.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-10arch=i386 
error was

[Errno 4] IOError: urlopen error (-2, 'Name or service not known')
Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for 
repository: fedora,

Please verify its path and try again.

What do I need to do to fix this, please?

You have a typo in the URL above:

http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-10arch=i386
would be correct (mirrors.fedoraproject.org instead of 
mirros.fedoraproject.org)


Ralf


Yes, I mis-typed it by hand - the repos are correct as you have stated.

I am still not able to access the Internet which is why I think it is 
failing

to begin with.  I am trying to figure out exactly what is preventing F10
from reaching my default router, (Internet) at this point.

Dan

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Re: Gnome terminal

2009-01-16 Thread Marc Schwartz
Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net writes:

 On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 14:37 +0100, Theodore Papadopoulo wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I recently upgraded from Fedora 7 to Fedora 10.
 One thing that midly annoys me is that whenever I'm starting up a new 
 terminal
 (from the menu in the background not form the menu in the panel), the 
 new terminal
 starts with a current work dir being ~/Desktop (instead of ~/).
 
 Is this an upgrade problem or something that has been changed. In the 
 later case,
 is there a way to restore the f7 behaviour (ie cwd being ~/).
 
   Thank's a lot for any insight.
 
 Theo.
 
 I could have sworn that there was an option for this in Configuration
 Editor (or .gconf) but I cannot find it, so that is not much help.

There is a bug posted here:

  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468293

with no follow up since it was posted last October. I just updated it
with the following info:


In follow up, this behavior is controlled in:

  /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir

Note that this is NOT:

  /apps/nautilus/preferences/desktop_is_home_dir

which will change the behavior of the terminal when opened from the
background menu, but it will ALSO make your desktop your home directory.

This bug is probably more correctly filed against nautilus-open-terminal.

The following appears in the NEWS file for 0.9:

Add GConf key for deciding whether right-clicking the desktop opens home
directory or desktop directory.
Use g_get_user_special_dir() to determine the desktop directory, and falls back
to ~/Desktop (#468955).


HTH,

Marc Schwartz

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Re: how to get username use another home directory

2009-01-16 Thread Todd Zullinger
Globe Trotter wrote:
 I usually keep the userspace in another partition, /usr/local (let
 us say /usr/local/trotter.

I'm curious, why not just have /home be on a different partition?
That seems more elegant to me (and would work better with SELinux as
well, though you might not care if you disable SELinux or run in
permissive mode :).

 Previously, I would add skip the create user step and log in as root
 and then create user with directory using system-config-users.
 However, this is apparently no longer allowed, and I am required to
 create an user. How do I get this user to have its home in
 /usr/local/trotter? I guess one way out is to create a fake user and
 then go in, use system-config-users and then delete the fake user.
 Is there a more elegant way?

This is the sort of task I'd do from a text console (but then, I say
that sort of thing a lot ;).  If you create the user trotter at first
boot, use CTRL-ALT-F2 at the login screen to get to a console.  Then
login as root and use something like:

# usermod -m --home /usr/local/trotter trotter

The -m option moves the current home dir to the new dir.  Obviously,
you don't want trotter logged in when you do this.

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Re: how to get username use another home directory

2009-01-16 Thread Globe Trotter
 I'm curious, why not just have /home be on a different
 partition?
 That seems more elegant to me (and would work better with
 SELinux as
 well, though you might not care if you disable SELinux or
 run in
 permissive mode :).

Thanks! I wonder that myself, sometimes, but it is for historical reasons. In 
the days that there was no rpms, I used to keep locally installed programs 
there and did not want it wiped out with every new tinkering. I still use some 
of them, but all options are set to use /usr/local/trotter, etc.  
 
  Previously, I would add skip the create user step and
 log in as root
  and then create user with directory using
 system-config-users.
  However, this is apparently no longer allowed, and I
 am required to
  create an user. How do I get this user to have its
 home in
  /usr/local/trotter? I guess one way out is to create a
 fake user and
  then go in, use system-config-users and then delete
 the fake user.
  Is there a more elegant way?
 
 This is the sort of task I'd do from a text console
 (but then, I say
 that sort of thing a lot ;).  If you create the user
 trotter at first
 boot, use CTRL-ALT-F2 at the login screen to get to a
 console.  Then
 login as root and use something like:
 
 # usermod -m --home /usr/local/trotter trotter
 
 The -m option moves the current home dir to the new dir. 
 Obviously,
 you don't want trotter logged in when you do this.

Thanks! However, does it not wipe out the /usr/local/trotter directory. I just 
want to get rid of the /home/trotter and make everything point to 
/usr/local/trotter directory (which exists from an earlier installation).

I haven't actually tried this, but am just wondering.

Isn't it is a better option to allow for a home directory to be chosen at 
installation? I have never figured out why Fedora does not allow this choice 
(with a default).

Trotter




  

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Re: how to get username use another home directory

2009-01-16 Thread Harry R.



If I understand the question correctly, here is my 2 cents. 
I simply move the original '/home'  dir to a partition of my liking then create 
a symlink from / to 
that partition. Then I rename /home to something else. Has worked perfectly for 
me so far

H.


On 16 Jan 2009 at 10:02, Globe Trotter wrote:

  I'm curious, why not just have /home be on a different
  partition?
  That seems more elegant to me (and would work better with
  SELinux as
  well, though you might not care if you disable SELinux or
  run in
  permissive mode :).
 
 Thanks! I wonder that myself, sometimes, but it is for historical reasons. In 
 the days that there was no rpms, I used to keep locally installed programs 
 there and did not want it wiped out with every new tinkering. I still use 
 some of them, but all options are set to use /usr/local/trotter, etc.  
  
   Previously, I would add skip the create user step and
  log in as root
   and then create user with directory using
  system-config-users.
   However, this is apparently no longer allowed, and I
  am required to
   create an user. How do I get this user to have its
  home in
   /usr/local/trotter? I guess one way out is to create a
  fake user and
   then go in, use system-config-users and then delete
  the fake user.
   Is there a more elegant way?
  
  This is the sort of task I'd do from a text console
  (but then, I say
  that sort of thing a lot ;).  If you create the user
  trotter at first
  boot, use CTRL-ALT-F2 at the login screen to get to a
  console.  Then
  login as root and use something like:
  
  # usermod -m --home /usr/local/trotter trotter
  
  The -m option moves the current home dir to the new dir. 
  Obviously,
  you don't want trotter logged in when you do this.
 
 Thanks! However, does it not wipe out the /usr/local/trotter directory. I 
 just want to get rid of the /home/trotter and make everything point to 
 /usr/local/trotter directory (which exists from an earlier installation).
 
 I haven't actually tried this, but am just wondering.
 
 Isn't it is a better option to allow for a home directory to be chosen at 
 installation? I have never figured out why Fedora does not allow this choice 
 (with a default).
 
 Trotter
 
 
 
 
   
 
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Re: how to get username use another home directory

2009-01-16 Thread Les
On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 12:54 -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote:
 Globe Trotter wrote:
  I usually keep the userspace in another partition, /usr/local (let
  us say /usr/local/trotter.
 
 I'm curious, why not just have /home be on a different partition?
 That seems more elegant to me (and would work better with SELinux as
 well, though you might not care if you disable SELinux or run in
 permissive mode :).
 
  Previously, I would add skip the create user step and log in as root
  and then create user with directory using system-config-users.
  However, this is apparently no longer allowed, and I am required to
  create an user. How do I get this user to have its home in
  /usr/local/trotter? I guess one way out is to create a fake user and
  then go in, use system-config-users and then delete the fake user.
  Is there a more elegant way?
 
 This is the sort of task I'd do from a text console (but then, I say
 that sort of thing a lot ;).  If you create the user trotter at first
 boot, use CTRL-ALT-F2 at the login screen to get to a console.  Then
 login as root and use something like:
 
 # usermod -m --home /usr/local/trotter trotter
 
 The -m option moves the current home dir to the new dir.  Obviously,
 you don't want trotter logged in when you do this.
 
One other thing to mention is that /usr is a system directory.  As such
its permissions are a bit touchy, and putting user files there can
produce unintended consequences.

I would have great reservations about this due to unexpected
interactions of things such as backups, access to certain system files
(through /usr/bin and /usr/sbin) for example, especially with multiple
users on the system.

By convention, many applications expect /home to contain user
directories, and while if coding standards are followed, the  shell
variable $HOME will point to the correct directory, in some cases poorly
written or experimental code is sometimes not so clean.


Regards,
Les H

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Re: mount question

2009-01-16 Thread Aldo Foot
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 7:17 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson
mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote:
 Aldo Foot wrote:

 My understanding is that in /media the OS expects to find removable media
 such as usb drives. The /mnt mount point is for nfs and local filesystems.
 Those mount points are sort of designated places for specific filesystems.

 Please shed some light if I'm wrong.
 ~af

 My understanding is that /media is used as a mount point for things
 that are not found in /etc/fstab, and are detected by HAL. HAL
 mounts them there so the the console user can access them. The user
 normally can not create directories in /mnt.

That a great way of explaining what /media is for.

 This is different from automount, where the directories are already
 there. Automount mounts the specified file system when someone tries
 to access it.

Sort of mount on demand; meaning df -h will only show a cd or pen drive
until the user clicks on it to access it.

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Re: unable to enumerate USB device

2009-01-16 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 10:14 -0500, Jim wrote:
 Hubs that get there power source from the computer are the ones that 
 give you problems, because of voltage drop across the cable to
 computer.

Not just the potential of that happening, but the host mayn't be able to
supply the amount of current desired (not a voltage drop, per se, but a
supply issue - if the host was only designed to supply so much, then
that's all it's going to give).  Whereas a powered hub has its own
specifications, which may support more power.

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Re: F10 Installation: Unable use Add/remove packages or Yum [SOLVED]

2009-01-16 Thread Daniel B. Thurman

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:

Ralf Corsepius wrote:

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:


F-10 Repository:
Fedora 10 - i386
Fedora 10 - Updates

1. Add/Remove Software:
No results were found.
Try entering a package name in the search bar.

2. Yum update
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Could not retrieve mirror list 
http://mirros.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-10arch=i386 
error was

[Errno 4] IOError: urlopen error (-2, 'Name or service not known')
Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for 
repository: fedora,

Please verify its path and try again.

What do I need to do to fix this, please?

You have a typo in the URL above:

http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-10arch=i386
would be correct (mirrors.fedoraproject.org instead of 
mirros.fedoraproject.org)


Ralf


Yes, I mis-typed it by hand - the repos are correct as you have stated.

I am still not able to access the Internet which is why I think it is 
failing

to begin with.  I am trying to figure out exactly what is preventing F10
from reaching my default router, (Internet) at this point.


I have checked, and successfully pinged, yahoo.com from the Terminal window.
This means: ping yahoo.com was successfully returning timing results, 
also means

that yahoo.com was successfully DNS resolved into an IP address.

Since Firefox failed to work using the FQDN in the URL, I suspected that 
the DNS
resolver was not resolving in this application, so,  I obtained the IP 
address of
fedoraproject.org via nslookup, and placed the IP address into the 
Firefox URL,

and it worked.

So, I checked /etc/resolv.conf and discovered, that there was a DNS IP 
address
that was not working (ie, the DNS system was returning bad results, so I 
removed

it), now, at this point, yum is now working. HooBoy.

Sorry for posting all of this, as it turns out, it was my fault, not F10.

Dan

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squid help for F7?

2009-01-16 Thread Dave Stevens
Hi,

I'd like to run squid on my F7 setup and am getting an error every time I try 
to start the service. The logfile shows the output below (repeatedly)

Squid Cache (Version 2.6.STABLE16): Terminated abnormally.
CPU Usage: 0.009 seconds = 0.004 user + 0.005 sys
Maximum Resident Size: 0 KB
Page faults with physical i/o: 9
FATAL: Could not determine fully qualified hostname.  Please 
set 'visible_hostname'

I would quite happily set visible_hostname but don't know how or where. Ideas?

Dave


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unable to get email

2009-01-16 Thread Paul Cartwright
I just installed Fedora core 9 on my laptop, to replace Ubuntu. I have a 
separate /home, so I didn't lose any emails, or settings.. Once I reinstalled 
thunderbird, and copied over the old settings, I thought I had it working.
But it fails to get emails from my IMAP accounts, except for my 1 business 
email that is IMAP and does work. I even removed/recreated one account, just 
to see if something got hosed..
I have several domain email accounts, and none work, and they all have the 
same incoming/outgoing server. My work email is a totally separate server, 
both in and outgoing.
I turned off SElinux, that didn't help, I rebooted, that didn't help.. I'm not 
sure where to look next, any suggestions?
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Re: mount question

2009-01-16 Thread Robin Laing

Aldo Foot wrote:

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote:

Not true.  The ntfs module could be compiled with write abilities in
RH9.  It wasn't _reliable_ but it was there, and it didn't use udev.
udev really doesn't have anything to do with filesystems other than
potentially triggering a mount command.


you're right...the ability to mount ntfs r/w was indeed available way
back but the admonitions were clear that by doing so would likely damage
the filesystem. That sort of made a non-option.

I agree with the OP that it probably should mount an internal IDE drive
somewhere other than /media but I suspect that he originally mounted it
as a user and that's where it appears.

The man pages for ntfs-3g and if needed, http://ntfs-3g.org/support.html
should be all he needs to get it to mount where his heart desires.

Craig


My understanding is that in /media the OS expects to find removable media
such as usb drives. The /mnt mount point is for nfs and local filesystems.
Those mount points are sort of designated places for specific filesystems.

Please shed some light if I'm wrong.
~af



From the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard.

http://www.pathname.com/fhs/index.html


/media : Mount point for removable media
Purpose

This directory contains subdirectories which are used as mount points 
for removable media such as floppy disks, cdroms and zip disks.


Rationale


Historically there have been a number of other different places used to 
mount removable media such as /cdrom, /mnt or /mnt/cdrom. Placing the 
mount points for all removable media directly in the root directory 
would potentially result in a large number of extra directories in /. 
Although the use of subdirectories in /mnt as a mount point has recently 
been common, it conflicts with a much older tradition of using /mnt 
directly as a temporary mount point.


-
/mnt : Mount point for a temporarily mounted filesystem
Purpose

This directory is provided so that the system administrator may 
temporarily mount a filesystem as needed. The content of this directory 
is a local issue and should not affect the manner in which any program 
is run.


This directory must not be used by installation programs: a suitable 
temporary directory not in use by the system must be used instead.



Hope that clears it up.


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Re: how to identify the missing perl module to be installed

2009-01-16 Thread Gustavo Eli
another way to view the installed modules installed to see the
documentation for each module ;)

perldoc perllocal

Gustavo Eli Pelcastre H.


   is there a quick way to map a perl module to its corresponding
 package to be installed?  someone just dumped a perl script on one of
 my systems, and it fails with:

   Can't locate IO/Uncompress/Gunzip.pm in @INC ... etc etc 

 fair enough, so which of the perl module packages would i need to
 install?  taking a shot in the dark, on one of my other systems, i
 ran:

 $ yum search perl-IO-Compress
 ... snip ...
 perl-IO-Compress-Base.i386 : Base Class for IO::Compress modules
 perl-IO-Compress-Bzip2.noarch : Perl interface to allow reading and
 writing of bzip2 data
 perl-IO-Compress-Zlib.i386 : Perl interface to allow reading and writing
 of gzip and zip data

 $ rpm -qi perl-IO-Compress-Base
 ...
 This module is the base class for all IO::Compress and IO::Uncompress
 modules.
 $

   so that kind of gives it away, but what if i wasn't such a lucky
 guesser?  is there a mapping utility from module to RPM package?
 thanks.

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Total newcomer trrying to set up wireless

2009-01-16 Thread David Henig
Hi all, I recently built my first Linux system, figuring it was time to give
Linux a try after years and years with Windows (and many more besides in
years gone by, including Unix).
It's not going well I'm afraid... I connect to the internet using a Buffalo
Wireless G adaptor, but having plugged this in I have no idea whether it's
properly recognised (it is listed in the network utility) nor how to make it
work with the selected network. Is there a step by step process to making a
wireless device work?

After that I'll need to set up a network attached printer. Should I give up
now?

David
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Re: Asset Management

2009-01-16 Thread Robin Laing

Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
I know there are plenty of asset management software out there.  
Everything I've seen so far is for hardware and software, network, 
manufacturer, etc., etc.  I'm looking for something a little bit broader.


I want one location for all our marketing and web assets. Stock photos, 
pictures of products, pictures of projects, templates that we send to 
clients, PDFs of data sheets and info pages, catalogs of our vendors, 
ads we have run in magazines and
newspapers, anything that has anything to do with our marketing and 
online presents. I want it all in one place, inventoried and cataloged.  
And of course, the hardware, software, network and all that jazz too.


I know that's a tall order, but even if it's something that has 
different modules to be added, that's great.  And if it's open source, 
even better!


Does anyone have any suggestions?  I don't want to have to reinvent the 
wheel if it already exists.




Sounds like you need a decent web server.

I would look at a content management system as a base and build from 
that.  No single application will do all what you want and it sounds 
that a web server would be the best thing.


Info.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_management_system

Products and links.
http://php.opensourcecms.com/
http://drupal.org/

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Re: unable to get email

2009-01-16 Thread Mark Haney
Paul Cartwright wrote:
 I just installed Fedora core 9 on my laptop, to replace Ubuntu. I have a 
 separate /home, so I didn't lose any emails, or settings.. Once I reinstalled 
 thunderbird, and copied over the old settings, I thought I had it working.
 But it fails to get emails from my IMAP accounts, except for my 1 business 
 email that is IMAP and does work. I even removed/recreated one account, just 
 to see if something got hosed..
 I have several domain email accounts, and none work, and they all have the 
 same incoming/outgoing server. My work email is a totally separate server, 
 both in and outgoing.
 I turned off SElinux, that didn't help, I rebooted, that didn't help.. I'm 
 not 
 sure where to look next, any suggestions?
 thanks,
 

What error messages are you getting?  Have you tried setting up just one
account at a time and seeing if you can get mail?  Nothing you've given
us in this post tells us anything that could help us debug the problem.




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Re: how to identify the missing perl module to be installed

2009-01-16 Thread Bruno Wolff III
   is there a quick way to map a perl module to its corresponding
 package to be installed?  someone just dumped a perl script on one of
 my systems, and it fails with:

   Can't locate IO/Uncompress/Gunzip.pm in @INC ... etc etc 

[r...@cerberus bruno]# yum whatprovides '*/IO/Uncompress/Gunzip.pm'
Loaded plugins: dellsysidplugin, refresh-packagekit
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing/filelists_db   |  12 kB 00:00 
fedora/filelists_db  |  13 MB 00:00 
rpmfusion-nonfree/filelists_db   |  44 kB 00:00 
rpmfusion-free-updates-testing/filelists_db  | 4.1 kB 00:00 
updates-testing/filelists_db | 1.5 MB 00:00 
rpmfusion-free-updates/filelists_db  |  57 kB 00:00 
rpmfusion-free/filelists_db  | 303 kB 00:00 
updates/filelists_db | 4.3 MB 00:00 
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates/filelists_db   |  14 kB 00:00 
perl-IO-Compress-Zlib-2.008-49.fc10.x86_64 : Perl interface to allow reading and
   : writing of gzip and zip data
Repo: fedora
Matched from:
Filename: 
/usr/lib64/perl5/5.10.0/x86_64-linux-thread-multi/IO/Uncompress/Gunzip.pm



perl-IO-Compress-Zlib-2.008-52.fc10.x86_64 : Perl interface to allow reading and
   : writing of gzip and zip data
Repo: updates
Matched from:
Filename: 
/usr/lib64/perl5/5.10.0/x86_64-linux-thread-multi/IO/Uncompress/Gunzip.pm



perl-IO-Compress-Zlib-2.008-52.fc10.x86_64 : Perl interface to allow reading and
   : writing of gzip and zip data
Repo: installed
Matched from:
Filename: 
/usr/lib64/perl5/5.10.0/x86_64-linux-thread-multi/IO/Uncompress/Gunzip.pm




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Re: Gnome terminal

2009-01-16 Thread Kam Leo
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Marc Schwartz
marc_schwa...@comcast.net wrote:
 Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net writes:

 On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 14:37 +0100, Theodore Papadopoulo wrote:
 Hi,

 I recently upgraded from Fedora 7 to Fedora 10.
 One thing that midly annoys me is that whenever I'm starting up a new
 terminal
 (from the menu in the background not form the menu in the panel), the
 new terminal
 starts with a current work dir being ~/Desktop (instead of ~/).

 Is this an upgrade problem or something that has been changed. In the
 later case,
 is there a way to restore the f7 behaviour (ie cwd being ~/).

   Thank's a lot for any insight.

 Theo.

 I could have sworn that there was an option for this in Configuration
 Editor (or .gconf) but I cannot find it, so that is not much help.

 There is a bug posted here:

  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468293

 with no follow up since it was posted last October. I just updated it
 with the following info:


 In follow up, this behavior is controlled in:

  /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir

 Note that this is NOT:

  /apps/nautilus/preferences/desktop_is_home_dir

 which will change the behavior of the terminal when opened from the
 background menu, but it will ALSO make your desktop your home directory.

 This bug is probably more correctly filed against nautilus-open-terminal.

 The following appears in the NEWS file for 0.9:

 Add GConf key for deciding whether right-clicking the desktop opens home
 directory or desktop directory.
 Use g_get_user_special_dir() to determine the desktop directory, and falls 
 back
 to ~/Desktop (#468955).


 HTH,

 Marc Schwartz

Google search is your and my friend. A search found this Ubuntu link:
http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/11/06/update-nautilus-open-terminal-behavior/

The fix is to run this as root:

gconftool-2 --set --type=bool
/apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir true

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Re: hal rules (was: How do I allow automatic non root access to my non standard USB device ?)

2009-01-16 Thread Linuxguy123
On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 09:59 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:
 On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:39:36 -0500
 Todd Denniston wrote:
 
  suggestion: find the udev|hal rules for allowing the console logged in user 
  to 
  use the sound card, and mimic them for your device.
 
 I always wonder about how to fiddle hal rules. I have found hal rules
 in the past I wanted to change (like putting different permissions
 on the device file it creates), but I know if I change the actual
 rule file, then the next time there is a hal update that file
 will get updated and my changes will disappear.
 
 Is there some magic way to properly define hal rules that override
 existing rules in the installed system files?
 
 I usually wind up huddled in a corner in tears when I try to understand
 this stuff :-).


It used to be that you edited or created a new rule
in /etc/udev/rules.d.

The lower the number the earlier in the process the rule got looked at. 

However, it appears to me that things have changed.  I no longer see
explicit USB rules in that directory and the hal.rules file has this:

# pass all events to the HAL daemon
RUN+=socket:/org/freedesktop/hal/udev_event

I set this device up a couple years ago and now I don't remember how.
Or things have changed. 

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Re: How do I allow automatic non root access to my non standard USB device ?

2009-01-16 Thread Linuxguy123
On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 09:39 -0500, Todd Denniston wrote:
 suggestion: find the udev|hal rules for allowing the console logged in
 user to 
 use the sound card, and mimic them for your device.

I agree with the approach, although reading an article that outlined how
it works these days in F10 would be better. 

Where would I start looking for how a comparable USB device is handled ?
I looked in /etc/udev/rules.d, but I don't see any specific handlers for
devices and the hal-rules.d file has this:

# pass all events to the HAL daemon
RUN+=socket:/org/freedesktop/hal/udev_event

Have things changed ?

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Re: squid help for F7?

2009-01-16 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 10:16 -0800, Dave Stevens wrote:
 I'd like to run squid on my F7 setup

Fedora 7 is very old, very outdated, and so is any software pre-packaged
for it.  If it has bugs, and it probably does, they won't be fixed.
This is especially important for security related bugs.  And anything
web browser related is a big target for such things.

 am getting an error every time I try to start the service. The logfile
 shows the output below (repeatedly)
 
 Squid Cache (Version 2.6.STABLE16): Terminated abnormally.
 CPU Usage: 0.009 seconds = 0.004 user + 0.005 sys
 Maximum Resident Size: 0 KB
 Page faults with physical i/o: 9
 FATAL: Could not determine fully qualified hostname.  Please 
 set 'visible_hostname'
 
 I would quite happily set visible_hostname but don't know how or where. Ideas?

There's a big problem here.  Firstly, it shouldn't have any problems
working out its hostname.  You need to sort out your network, first.
Not only will Squid need to know who he is, but any browsers on your LAN
will have to be able to address it, somehow.

Whether you do that by diddling with your /etc/hosts files, or running a
DNS server is up to you.  But if you're going to run a web proxy, then
also running a DNS server is probably a good idea, too.

Setting a visible hostname in the server configuration isn't hard to do.
Just open the /etc/squid/squid.conf file in a text editor, and search
for the word visible.

But again, this shouldn't really be necessary, if you have name
resolution working well, unless you have several different hostnames
that can be used for your computer, and you want to set Squid to use a
particular one.

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Re: Gnome terminal

2009-01-16 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 10:58 -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
 The fix is to run this as root:

 gconftool-2 --set --type=bool 
 /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir true

Shouldn't that be done as the user that wants their configuration
changed?

It works for me, done as me, here on my computer.  I'd expect doing it
as root to only affect the root user, and a different command line to be
used to set a system default to be applied to users.

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Re: mount question

2009-01-16 Thread Steve

 Robin Laing robin.la...@drdc-rddc.gc.ca wrote: 
  
 
  From the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard.
 
 http://www.pathname.com/fhs/index.html

That page has not been updated since 2004. Still valid? Apparently, HAL doesn't 
think so.

 
 /media : Mount point for removable media
 Purpose
 
 This directory contains subdirectories which are used as mount points 
 for removable media such as floppy disks, cdroms and zip disks.
 
 Rationale
   
 
 Historically there have been a number of other different places used to 
 mount removable media such as /cdrom, /mnt or /mnt/cdrom. Placing the 
 mount points for all removable media directly in the root directory 
 would potentially result in a large number of extra directories in /. 
 Although the use of subdirectories in /mnt as a mount point has recently 
 been common, it conflicts with a much older tradition of using /mnt 
 directly as a temporary mount point.
 
 -
 /mnt : Mount point for a temporarily mounted filesystem
 Purpose
 
 This directory is provided so that the system administrator may 
 temporarily mount a filesystem as needed. The content of this directory 
 is a local issue and should not affect the manner in which any program 
 is run.
 
 This directory must not be used by installation programs: a suitable 
 temporary directory not in use by the system must be used instead.
 
 
 Hope that clears it up.

Yes...and no. 

That would seem to say that a permanently mouted filesystem such a a Windows 
partition on a dual boot system should not be mounted in /media since it is not 
removeable nor should it be mounted in /mnt since it is permanently mounted.

But then where?

Steve

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Re: FC10, Could not start Kstartupconfig

2009-01-16 Thread Tim
Tim:
 How did you create the new user logins?

 I'm guessing that you just added new users, one by one, and didn't
 add them in the same order as the first time around.  So that some
 user names have the same user ID (numerical), and some don't.


Jim:
 Most likely that's what i did and I wasn't aware of that, ol well
 learn the hard way.

A recursive chown on each (new) users home directory ought to be able to
fix that up, if you're not having users spanning across different
networked computers and needing the same ID on each computer.

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Re: Gnome terminal

2009-01-16 Thread Kam Leo
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
 On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 10:58 -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
 The fix is to run this as root:

 gconftool-2 --set --type=bool 
 /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir true

 Shouldn't that be done as the user that wants their configuration
 changed?

 It works for me, done as me, here on my computer.  I'd expect doing it
 as root to only affect the root user, and a different command line to be
 used to set a system default to be applied to users.

 --
 [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r
 2.6.27.9-73.fc9.i686

I opened a terminal, did an su - and ran the command. Opened another
terminal after executing the command and the default directory changed
to /home/user. I logged out and logged in as a different user. The
change applied across the board for all users.

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Re: Gnome terminal

2009-01-16 Thread Kam Leo
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Kam Leo kam@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
 On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 10:58 -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
 The fix is to run this as root:

 gconftool-2 --set --type=bool 
 /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir true

 Shouldn't that be done as the user that wants their configuration
 changed?

 It works for me, done as me, here on my computer.  I'd expect doing it
 as root to only affect the root user, and a different command line to be
 used to set a system default to be applied to users.

 --
 [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r
 2.6.27.9-73.fc9.i686

 I opened a terminal, did an su - and ran the command. Opened another
 terminal after executing the command and the default directory changed
 to /home/user. I logged out and logged in as a different user. The
 change applied across the board for all users.


I stand corrected. A reboot and logging back in as myself shows the
default directory going back to Desktop. Only root got the directory
changed to home.

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Re: Total newcomer trrying to set up wireless

2009-01-16 Thread Seann Clark

David Henig wrote:
Hi all, I recently built my first Linux system, figuring it was time 
to give Linux a try after years and years with Windows (and many more 
besides in years gone by, including Unix).


It's not going well I'm afraid... I connect to the internet using a 
Buffalo Wireless G adaptor, but having plugged this in I have no idea 
whether it's properly recognised (it is listed in the network utility) 
nor how to make it work with the selected network. Is there a step by 
step process to making a wireless device work?


After that I'll need to set up a network attached printer. Should I 
give up now?


David
David, 

   Simple things first, what interface is the Wifi adapter? Second, 
quick way to check out your success with the card, without knowing if it 
is USB, PCI, or other, is to check out either /var/log/dmesg (during a 
boot or reboot it should show here if it is found) or in 
/var/log/messages if you are using a default setup. Outside of that, I 
think NetworkManager would be best to get it set up if it see's the card.



Printers are easy though, so it should take less of a curve than the 
wifi card.



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Re: mount question

2009-01-16 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 14:23 -0500, Steve wrote:
  Robin Laing robin.la...@drdc-rddc.gc.ca wrote: 
   
  
   From the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard.
  
  http://www.pathname.com/fhs/index.html
 
 That page has not been updated since 2004. Still valid? Apparently, HAL 
 doesn't think so.

still valid for sure - /media remains the mount point for removable
media

 That would seem to say that a permanently mouted filesystem such a a Windows 
 partition on a dual boot system should not be mounted in /media since it is 
 not removeable nor should it be mounted in /mnt since it is permanently 
 mounted.
 
 But then where?

anywhere you want

mkdir /disk2
mount /dev/sdb1 /disk2

what's the difference? Even if you mount it somewhere, you can still
'bind' mount it elsewhere at the same time (usually better than symlink
- especially when using selinux)

Craig

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Internal IDE DVD Burner

2009-01-16 Thread Gene Poole
I think I've run into a bad DVD burner/reader and maybe someone can help. 
At home I've got 5-internal DVD burners and at work I have 1-external DVD 
burner at my disposal. Of these 6-burners I'm pretty sure I know the brand 
names of most (2-Sony; 1-HP; 1-eMachine; 1-Pioneer; 1-LiteOn) based upon 
the machines they are in. I know the Sony's are the same even though 1 is 
internal and the other external.
The burner I seem to be have the problem with is the Pioneer.  It doesn't 
seem to process a Fedora 9 x86_64 or CentOS 5.2 x86_64 installation DVD - 
even if the thing was burned on it!  All of the blank DVDs are +R and I 
use Verbatim, HP, Imation, and TDK.  Currently the machine that houses the 
Pioneer is the only x86_64 machine I have, so I have no way to test on 
another machine.
The only install DVD that is working is Fedora 8 and Fedora 10.  I want to 
install CentOS 5 as it's the most like the Red Hat 5.1 I support at work 
and I want to run Oracle on my machine. How can I verify a x86_64 install 
DVD on a non-x86_64 machine (I've done the md5sum and sha1sum process at 
DVD creation time)?  Is it because I've burned a x86_64 DVD on a i386 
machine causing me a problem?  Should I just try -R DVDs?  Should I lower 
the burn speed?  Is the phantom of the DVD haunting me?
 
TIA,
Gene
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Re: how to get username use another home directory

2009-01-16 Thread Todd Zullinger
Globe Trotter wrote:
 Thanks! I wonder that myself, sometimes, but it is for historical
 reasons. In the days that there was no rpms, I used to keep locally
 installed programs there and did not want it wiped out with every
 new tinkering. I still use some of them, but all options are set to
 use /usr/local/trotter, etc.

 # usermod -m --home /usr/local/trotter trotter

 The -m option moves the current home dir to the new dir.
 Obviously, you don't want trotter logged in when you do this.

 Thanks! However, does it not wipe out the /usr/local/trotter
 directory. I just want to get rid of the /home/trotter and make
 everything point to /usr/local/trotter directory (which exists from
 an earlier installation).

 I haven't actually tried this, but am just wondering.

I would guess that it would, in which case you'd want to omit the -m
option.  But I can't say that I've tried this anytime in recent
memory.

 Isn't it is a better option to allow for a home directory to be
 chosen at installation? I have never figured out why Fedora does not
 allow this choice (with a default).

I suppose it is very uncommon for folks wanting to change the location
of /home.  Usually you would just make /home a separate partition to
achieve this (and may very well do the same for /usr/local).  Those
options are available in the installer, of course.

If you wanted to make useradd and system-config-users default to a
different location for user home dirs, you can do that as well by
editing /etc/default/useradd and changing the HOME setting.  That
could be done via kickstart even.

Basically, I think that what you want is generally outside of the
majority of use cases.  And when you're in that position, you
sometimes have to do a little tinkering on your own. :)

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