Re: Firefox Running Slow in Linux

[Arthur Pemberton]

On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:57 PM, Agile Aspect  wrote:
> Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
>>
>> Marc Ferguson wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I know I'll probably get hazed by this already saturated question, but I
>>> haven't found any solid answers to my issue from the archives.  I'm running
>>> Fedora 10 x86_64 and loving the "adventure" of running an 64 bit system.
>>>  I'm also running Firefox 3.0.x (x86_64), but I've noticed that it's not
>>> very smooth compared to it running on a Windows machine and I'm little
>>> confused why.
>>>
>>> It's more the scroll bar than anything else.  It's something small, but
>>> it's ruining the surfing experience and I'm a little embarrassed to let
>>> other people use it on my desktop.  I don't want to give Linux a bad name
>>> and these folks are primarily Windows/MAC users.  So; their experience with
>>> using Firefox on my system is a tainted one.
>>>
>>> I've tried running Swiftfox, but I haven't gotten it to load (that's
>>> another issue) so I'm kind of stuck with Firefox.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Marc F.
>>>
>>> www.fergytech.com 
>>> Registered Linux User: #410978
>>>
>>> "When life gives me lemons... I make Linuxaide, hmm good stuff!" -Marc F.
>>
>> This is probably a different situation, but for me, I discovered just
>> how much browsers can be greatly slowed down if there are slow/bad
>> DNS server entries.  Make sure that *all* of your DNS server entries
>> are good in the /etc/resolv.conf file (can be set with System->
>> Administration->Network (DNS tab)).  The odd thing is, only the
>> browsers that were very slow, but everything else seemed to work
>> fine.  You can check FF against your local web-server just to make
>> sure it is not a DNS resolver issue or the Internet infrastructure.
>>
>> For me, FF works well with:
>>
>> Fedora release 9 (Sulphur)
>> Kernel 2.6.27.9-73.fc9.i686 i686
>> Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6550  @ 2.33GHz
>> CPUs: 2
>> 2017MB RAM
>>
>> ... and my daughter's system, also an F9 with a different
>> and faster Intel Motherboard, Duo-Core, 2GB RAM
>>
>> FWIW,
>> Dan
>>
>
> When I step on the DHCP generated /etc/resolv.conf from
> Comast with one using my Wireless router as my primary
> resolver, the performance of Firefox jumps dramatically.
>
> Both the router and the DHCP generated /etc/resolv.conf
> have the same DNS server entries.
>
> DNS should be the first item to be checked.


My problem isn't how fast Firefox is getting the page, it's how slow
it is rendering them.

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mouse buttons stop working

[Bjorge Solli]

Hi

System: Fedora 10 (both 32 and 64 bit)

I have a strange problem. The mouse buttons stop working suddenly and
without any obvious reason. The cursor works fine and the keyboard works
fine, but no clicking with the mouse. I have seen this on two machines
with two different users and four different usb mouses (both wireless
and cabled). I believe it is a software related problem. Any ideas?

I use Ctrl+Alt+Arrow buttons to switch desktops and it might be that
switching desktop is a common factor.

regards
Bjørge Solli

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Kalarm autostart.

[Erik P. Olsen]

I don't seem to be able to autostart kalarm on Fedora 10. If I manually start
kalarm --tray I get this message:

[e...@epohost ~]$ kalarm --tray
kalarm(31573)/kdecore (K*TimeZone*): KSystemTimeZones: ktimezoned initialize()
D-Bus call failed:  "The name org.kde.kded was not provided by any .service 
files"

kalarm works OK aftyer that though.

But how can I autostart kalarm?

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Re: F10 Audigy SB / ALSA problem

[Rex Dieter]

RDB wrote:

> I have Audigy SB card with 5.1 speakers
...
> pulseaudio[5501]: module-alsa-sink.c: ALSA woke us up to
>  write new data to the device, but there was actually nothing to write!
>  Most
> likely this is an ALSA driver bug. Please report this issue to the
> PulseAudio developers.

^^^ says it all...

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Re: yum list display some package in 2 rows

[Panu Matilainen]

On Sat, 31 Jan 2009, Ambrogio wrote:


Hi all,

I use yum list in a script to have everytime I need a list of package
available.

Some packages, that have long names, are displayed in 2 rows, so scripts
are more hard to be coded.

There is an option to have a more simple list of packages, less readable
by umans, but more readable by computer?


Try repoquery from yum-utils. "repoquery --pkgnarrow=available -a" will 
give you a bare "rpm -qa" style list of available packages, if necessary 
you can tweak the output to whatever you like with --qf.


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Re: British Spellcheck in Firefox 3.05

[phil]

homb...@tips-q.com wrote:

I have US English selected as the language but FF insists,
for example that "color" s/b "colour." Is this a bug or
something that I can reconfigure? 

  

i guess ff baulks at incorrect English lol

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Re: [OT] how to acquire a clustered vg on a server without lvm2-cluster

[Gianluca Cecchi]

On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Gianluca Cecchi
 wrote:
> If I have a 2-nodes cluster with a clustered VG, that I copy (for
> example dd with cluster switched off), is then possible to acquire
> this VG on a third standalone node, or do I have to install the whole
> cluster layer on this third node too?
>
> This is on a rhel 5.2 server
>
> At the moment:
> pvscan is ok.
>  pvscan
>  PV /dev/dm-11  VG VG_TEST   lvm2 [10.00 GB / 0free]
>
> vgscan
>  Reading all physical volumes.  This may take a while...
>  Skipping clustered volume group VG_TEST
>
>
> vgchange -cn VG_TEST
>  Skipping clustered volume group VG_TEST
>


Ok, I found a Red Hat Knowledge Base (DOC-3619) explaining this.

[snip]
However, a local volume group has been incorrectly set up as
clustered, and there is not a cluster set up for the locking, when
unset the cluster flag is attempted to be removed, vgchange will print
out "Skipping cluster volume group."

In order to fix this, edit the /etc/lvm/lvm.conf file and set
locking_type = 0. Then run the command vgchange -cn VolumeGroupName.
After this, change the locking_type in the /etc/lvm/lvm.conf back to
the original value.

It works. Just in case other incurr in the same problem...

Sorry for the rumour,
Gianluca

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Re: LXDE as default in init 5

[solarflow99]

On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Richard Shaw  wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 2:48 PM, solarflow99  wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Richard Shaw 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:39 AM, solarflow99 
> >> wrote:
> >> > I would like to set this as the default, but using runlevel 5 just
> >> > brings up
> >> > GDM by default and I have to select lxde every time.  Anyone happen to
> >> > know
> >> > where you can can set this?  it doesnt seem realted to prefdm, I tried
> >> > that
> >> > already.
> >>
> >> If you select LXDE from GDM then it should remember that setting. I
> >> can't tell for sure if you've done that with the limited information
> >> you've provided.
> >>
> >> I recently installed F10 on a low end laptop (P2 366MHz) w/ 128MB of
> >> ram. I'm using LXDE in combination with Slim (login manager). I
> >> probably should put put it in bugzilla but I created a lxde.switchdesk
> >> file (modified from the fluxbox one) so you can use switchdesk to
> >> change to LXDE. However, I found out the hard way that if you choose
> >> your desktop in GDM, switchdesk will have no effect.
> >
> > all switchdesk does is create a file with a WM setting, so if you type
> > startx to bring up X then it works.  I mentioned that I had to select
> LXDE
> > every time from GDM so thats what I have been doing, in fact the whole
> > purpose of the message was to ask how to be able to stop doing that.
>
> That's got to be a configuration issue or a bug. Once you set it, it
> should stay that way. The lack of response is either because no one
> else is having the problem or the message subject doesn't catch
> anyone's interest. Might try reposting it as "GDM does not remember
> session selection" or something like that. You could try another
> desktop and see if it's remembered on restart or not which might help
> narrow down the scope of the problem.
>

I bet hardly anyone even used LXDE, its a real shame, lean software like
this is what we need more.  Nothing remembers the session though..
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F10 install - RAID - nightmare

[Robin Laing]

Hello,

The system is at home and so are all my notes.

Since I first started using RAID arrays, this is the first time I have 
had problems with an install.  I have been fighting this for over a 
week.  The machine was running F7 with RAID arrays.


I first tried to install F10 using a DVD that was checked by both 
sha1sum and disk check on install including the RAID array.


The install is working without the RAID array.

After installing on the non-RAID drive, I started going through the 
install to get the RAID working.


After much reading I found out that due to the problem install, I had to 
zero the Superblocks.  I did this and ensured that there was no 
superblock data with mdadm --examine {partitions}.


Recreated the multiple RAID partitions.

I am using a 1.5T drive partitions into 8 usable partitions.

I created the 8 partitions using mdadm.

I created /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf with mdadm --examine --scan as per the 
man page.


The RAID partitions mounted and I transferred data to the partitions.  I 
cannot remember if I did a reboot before I transferred data.  I think I 
did as I was trying to be careful.


I have read about a change in the way that the kernel and udev scan RAID 
arrays that have caused other people problems and I am wondering if this 
is my problem.


On a reboot yesterday, my mdadm.conf file was empty and my raid arrays 
were not mounted.  No data in 'cat /proc/mdadmstat'.


While I was fighting with this, I noticed that I would end up with md_d1 
md_d26 ... type of partitions instead of the md1, md2, ... named 
partitions.  Now I am not sure if this is part of the fact that the 
drive is partitioned or what.  Should I be using md_d1 assignments 
instead of md1 names as I am using partitions?  I am not sure of this as 
all I have read doesn't give me a good answer.


I can do an mdadm --examine --scan {partition} and I have confirmed the 
details on the drives.  One thing I noticed reading through the 
mdadm.conf file last night is it states.


super-minor=
  The  value  is  an  integer which indicates the minor
  number that was stored in  the  superblock  when  the
  array  was  created.  When  an  array  is  created as
  /dev/mdX, then the minor number X is stored.

In the scan, I noticed that the numbers didn't seem to correspond to the 
mdX numbers.  It was late and I didn't write it down.  The mdX number 
was in the scan data but not in the minor column.



I need to get this working.  My wife doesn't want her laptop upgraded 
from F7 due to this headache.


I have had some other strange things happen with F10 but those are not 
directly related to this problem.


Both drives are new Seagate drives with the updated firmware to work 
with RAID and Linux.  One of the reasons that I held off on the install 
until now.


Please help me as I need to get some sleep. ;-)

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Re: LXDE as default in init 5

[phil]

solarflow99 wrote:



On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Richard Shaw > wrote:


On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 2:48 PM, solarflow99 mailto:solarflo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Richard Shaw
mailto:hobbes1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:39 AM, solarflow99
mailto:solarflo...@gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>> > I would like to set this as the default, but using runlevel 5
just
>> > brings up
>> > GDM by default and I have to select lxde every time.  Anyone
happen to
>> > know
>> > where you can can set this?  it doesnt seem realted to
prefdm, I tried
>> > that
>> > already.
>>
>> If you select LXDE from GDM then it should remember that setting. I
>> can't tell for sure if you've done that with the limited
information
>> you've provided.
>>
>> I recently installed F10 on a low end laptop (P2 366MHz) w/
128MB of
>> ram. I'm using LXDE in combination with Slim (login manager). I
>> probably should put put it in bugzilla but I created a
lxde.switchdesk
>> file (modified from the fluxbox one) so you can use switchdesk to
>> change to LXDE. However, I found out the hard way that if you
choose
>> your desktop in GDM, switchdesk will have no effect.
>
> all switchdesk does is create a file with a WM setting, so if
you type
> startx to bring up X then it works.  I mentioned that I had to
select LXDE
> every time from GDM so thats what I have been doing, in fact the
whole
> purpose of the message was to ask how to be able to stop doing that.

That's got to be a configuration issue or a bug. Once you set it, it
should stay that way. The lack of response is either because no one
else is having the problem or the message subject doesn't catch
anyone's interest. Might try reposting it as "GDM does not remember
session selection" or something like that. You could try another
desktop and see if it's remembered on restart or not which might help
narrow down the scope of the problem.


I bet hardly anyone even used LXDE, its a real shame, lean software 
like this is what we need more.  Nothing remembers the session though..


 

you may have tried it already but xfce is also a great dm, lean and 
efficient


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F10 - boot - how to get into interactive boot?

[Robin Laing]

Hello,

Sure, I know to press 'I' but on two machines, it has been a nightmare. 
 One machine it never worked.


With faster machines, there is no time to press the button.

I found it wouldn't work if the normal Fedora splash screen was up on 
the screen.  I had to press escape to get it to work.  If I pressed to 
soon, the keyboard wouldn't work at all.  It all happened so fast.


On the second machine, I never got it to work.

This machine has encrypted partitions and the password prompt makes it 
harder.


I can just get the Esc button pushed in time for the password to be 
requested.  I then press 'I" right after pressing 'Enter.'  I get a 
whole bunch of 'I's" before and after the notice but it still continues 
into udev and on into a normal boot.  I never could get it to work.


Is there a way to get into interactive mode from grub?

When in the boot process is the keyboard input scanned for the 
Interactive?  Before or after the message to press "I"?


And is it a "I" or "i"?  I have tried both.

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F10 - fall back after disk e2fsck on boot scan issue.

[Robin Laing]

Hello,

This is the third issue that I have come across with F10 install problems.

On a machine that had a failing HD, which was not being used, the 
machine froze.  On a reboot, the system couldn't scan the USB drive that 
was connected at freeze but removed on reboot as well as other unmounted 
partitions.


The drives were not in /etc/fstab so they shouldn't have been scanned 
but they were in /etc/mtab that was left over from the crash.


On the reboot, the boot screen flashed past showing that it failed to 
check these drives and dropped into the repair (Right term?) prompt.  I 
entered the root password and proceeded to try to remove the /etc/mtab 
entry.  I couldn't as the / partition was mounted (ro).  I checked with 
'mount' and it stated that the partition was mounted (rw).


I couldn't change the mount status, I couldn't unmount the partition, I 
couldn't scan or do anything from the prompt to the / partition.  I had 
to use a Live CD to mount the partition and remove the /etc/mtab entry 
and reboot.  The system booted correctly.


Is this a bug that should be reported.  I have duplicated this and will 
test it on a different install.


Also on a related note, can e2fsck do a boot scan on the ext4 partitions?
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Re: F10 - boot - how to get into interactive boot?

[Tom Horsley]

On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 07:37:25 -0700
Robin Laing wrote:

> Sure, I know to press 'I' but on two machines, it has been a nightmare. 
>   One machine it never worked.

I always assumed that was just a joke message :-). It certainly
has never behaved any differently for me with or without the I

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Re: F10 Audigy SB / ALSA problem

[Rex Dieter]

Reuben D. Budiardja wrote:

> On Tuesday 03 February 2009 7:43:24 am Rex Dieter wrote:
>> RDB wrote:
>> > pulseaudio[5501]: module-alsa-sink.c: ALSA woke us up to
>> >  write new data to the device, but there was actually nothing to write!
>> >  Most
>> > likely this is an ALSA driver bug. Please report this issue to the
>> > PulseAudio developers.
>>
>> ^^^ says it all...

> OK, so that's the source of all the trouble ? What should I do next ?
> Should I open a bug on Fedora/Redhat bugzilla or should report this to
> PulseAudio ?

I believe this particular issue is already well-known.  A few quick searches
under http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/pulseaudio revealed a few
audigy-related items.


> When I tried to remove all pulseaudio related stuff, it drags a whole
> bunch of dependencies

what did you do, something different than:
yum remove pulseaudio
?

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Re: [Fedora] Re: Upgrading old RH server

[Kevin Martin]

Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
> Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> There's no way to convert the passwords automatically as the hashes
>> used are
>> not reversible by design (otherwise it would just be cheap
>> obfuscation and
>> add no real security).
>>   
>Considering the old method seems to work just fine on FC10, what
> could I be breaking if I just do that?  Do a clean FC10 install, then
> recover the pertinent files from backup, including that /etc/shadow
> file which has everyone's current passwords.
>
>Sooner or later, everyone will have their password expire and it
> becomes a moot point, but till then, can I expect things to run fine?
>
Beware the use of the new password scheme if this is a NIS master server
and you have any NIS clients that aren't RH/Fedora (recent) machines.  I
have a mixed bag of AIX, SunOS (8 and 10), and Linux (old RH and newer
Fedora) and I had to force the use of the old password algorithms as
SunOS 8 and older AIX can't handle the new scheme.

Kevin

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Re: F10 Audigy SB / ALSA problem

[Reuben D. Budiardja]

On Tuesday 03 February 2009 10:05:45 am Rex Dieter wrote:
> Reuben D. Budiardja wrote:
>
> I believe this particular issue is already well-known.  A few quick
> searches under http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/pulseaudio revealed a few
> audigy-related items.

Okay, thanks. I'll browse through that to see if there's anything I can add.

>
> > When I tried to remove all pulseaudio related stuff, it drags a whole
> > bunch of dependencies
>
> what did you do, something different than:
> yum remove pulseaudio
> ?

I can't remember what I tried to remove (don't have access to the machine 
right now), but I did "rpm -qa | grep pulse" and tried to remove all those 
packages that show up with pulseaudio. That's probably too much... So I'll 
just try removing pulseaudio as you suggested.

Thank you.

RDB

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Re: F10 - boot - how to get into interactive boot?

[Todd Denniston]

Robin Laing wrote, On 02/03/2009 09:37 AM:

Hello,

Sure, I know to press 'I' but on two machines, it has been a nightmare. 
 One machine it never worked.


With faster machines, there is no time to press the button.

I found it wouldn't work if the normal Fedora splash screen was up on 
the screen.  I had to press escape to get it to work.  If I pressed to 
soon, the keyboard wouldn't work at all.  It all happened so fast.


On the second machine, I never got it to work.

This machine has encrypted partitions and the password prompt makes it 
harder.


I can just get the Esc button pushed in time for the password to be 
requested.  I then press 'I" right after pressing 'Enter.'  I get a 
whole bunch of 'I's" before and after the notice but it still continues 
into udev and on into a normal boot.  I never could get it to work.


Is there a way to get into interactive mode from grub?

When in the boot process is the keyboard input scanned for the 
Interactive?  Before or after the message to press "I"?


And is it a "I" or "i"?  I have tried both.

I think I have had either work, though all is confusion as when I have to use 
it, for some reason I seem to be in panic/hurry up mode. :)




perhaps edit /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit and add a `sleep 1` before and after the
 echo -en $"\t\tPress 'I' to enter interactive startup."
line.

If that works for you, may I suggest filing a bug against the output of
`rpm -q --whatprovides /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit` such that the next version of 
that rpm includes the sleeps?



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Re: [Fedora] Re: Upgrading old RH server

[Todd Denniston]

Kevin Martin wrote, On 02/03/2009 10:25 AM:


Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:

Kevin Kofler wrote:

There's no way to convert the passwords automatically as the hashes
used are
not reversible by design (otherwise it would just be cheap
obfuscation and
add no real security).
  

   Considering the old method seems to work just fine on FC10, what
could I be breaking if I just do that?  Do a clean FC10 install, then
recover the pertinent files from backup, including that /etc/shadow
file which has everyone's current passwords.

   Sooner or later, everyone will have their password expire and it
becomes a moot point, but till then, can I expect things to run fine?


Beware the use of the new password scheme if this is a NIS master server
and you have any NIS clients that aren't RH/Fedora (recent) machines.  I
have a mixed bag of AIX, SunOS (8 and 10), and Linux (old RH and newer
Fedora) and I had to force the use of the old password algorithms as
SunOS 8 and older AIX can't handle the new scheme.

Kevin



Ashley should also be aware that (at least in my experience), 
NIS/yppasswd/passwd will use the type of password last set for the user.
i.e., when we got rid of our last SunOS box, I had to remove each user's 
password and have them immediately set a new one, specifically using the 
`passwd` program to get into the md5sum schema, so it may not be as easy as 
letting everyone's passwords expire.


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Configuring X beyond LCD panel Native Resolution

[Christopher A. Williams]

All:

I found that if I use the radeonhd drivers, I can configure the display
on my laptop to go well beyond the native resolution (1440x900) by
adjusting the screen resolution applet.

It works quite well.

I'm wondering if there is a way to do this directly in X though. So far,
all attempts to do this via direct configuration in X have come up
fruitless. Any ideas how to make that work?

Cheers,

Chris
 
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I lost the NetworkManager Applet

[James Harrison]

Hi,

I accidentally deleted the NetworkManager Applet from my task bar.  How do I 
get it back and is there a method to start networking from the command line.

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Re: I lost the NetworkManager Applet

[iarly selbir]

- start nm daemon

# /etc/init.d/NetworkManager start

- add to system startup

# chkconfig NetworkManager on




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On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:17 PM, James Harrison  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I accidentally deleted the NetworkManager Applet from my task bar.  How do
> I get it back and is there a method to start networking from the command
> line.
>
> James
>
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Re: I lost the NetworkManager Applet

[James Harrison]

This happens by default. None of this has changed, its just the small icon in 
the task bar





From: iarly selbir 
To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." 

Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 11:25:21 AM
Subject: Re: I lost the NetworkManager Applet

- start nm daemon

# /etc/init.d/NetworkManager start

- add to system startup

# chkconfig NetworkManager on 




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On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:17 PM, James Harrison  
wrote:

Hi,

I accidentally deleted the NetworkManager Applet from my task bar.  How do I 
get it back and is there a method to start networking from the command line.

James


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Re: I lost the NetworkManager Applet

[Todd Zullinger]

James Harrison wrote:
> This happens by default. None of this has changed, its just the
> small icon in the task bar

You can run nm-applet to restart the applet.

Also, please check the list guidelines.  Both top-posting and replying
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Re: I lost the NetworkManager Applet

[Rodney Morris]

On 2/3/09, James Harrison  wrote:
>
> This happens by default. None of this has changed, its just the small icon
> in the task bar
>
> 
> From: iarly selbir 
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora."
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 11:25:21 AM
> Subject: Re: I lost the NetworkManager Applet
>
>  - start nm daemon
>
> # /etc/init.d/NetworkManager start
>
> - add to system startup
>
> # chkconfig NetworkManager on
>

Is nm-applet still running?  You can determine whether nm-applet is
running by typing "ps aux | grep nm-applet".  If that command only
returns "grep nm-applet" as the only running process, nm-applet can be
restarted by typing "nm-applet &" from the command line.

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Re: F10 Audigy SB / ALSA problem

[Andras Simon]

On 2/3/09, Reuben D. Budiardja  wrote:

> I can't remember what I tried to remove (don't have access to the machine
> right now), but I did "rpm -qa | grep pulse" and tried to remove all those
> packages that show up with pulseaudio. That's probably too much... So I'll
> just try removing pulseaudio as you suggested.

I don't use PA (not that I wouldn't  like to... but I digress) and get
by fine with these pulse-related packages:

pulseaudio-utils
pulseaudio-libs
pulseaudio-core-libs
pulseaudio-libs-glib2

So perhaps (a subset of) these are what you should install.

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Re: I lost the NetworkManager Applet

[James Harrison]

Thanks for that. I think I tried that though.

I will try it again tonight.

Sorry for using an old message to start my message.





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Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 11:36:39 AM
Subject: Re: I lost the NetworkManager Applet

James Harrison wrote:
> This happens by default. None of this has changed, its just the
> small icon in the task bar

You can run nm-applet to restart the applet.

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Re: Firefox Running Slow in Linux

[Daniel B. Thurman]

Arthur Pemberton wrote:

On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:57 PM, Agile Aspect  wrote:
  

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:


Marc Ferguson wrote:
  

Hi,

I know I'll probably get hazed by this already saturated question, but I
haven't found any solid answers to my issue from the archives.  I'm running
Fedora 10 x86_64 and loving the "adventure" of running an 64 bit system.
 I'm also running Firefox 3.0.x (x86_64), but I've noticed that it's not
very smooth compared to it running on a Windows machine and I'm little
confused why.

It's more the scroll bar than anything else.  It's something small, but
it's ruining the surfing experience and I'm a little embarrassed to let
other people use it on my desktop.  I don't want to give Linux a bad name
and these folks are primarily Windows/MAC users.  So; their experience with
using Firefox on my system is a tainted one.

I've tried running Swiftfox, but I haven't gotten it to load (that's
another issue) so I'm kind of stuck with Firefox.

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This is probably a different situation, but for me, I discovered just
how much browsers can be greatly slowed down if there are slow/bad
DNS server entries.  Make sure that *all* of your DNS server entries
are good in the /etc/resolv.conf file (can be set with System->
Administration->Network (DNS tab)).  The odd thing is, only the
browsers that were very slow, but everything else seemed to work
fine.  You can check FF against your local web-server just to make
sure it is not a DNS resolver issue or the Internet infrastructure.

For me, FF works well with:

Fedora release 9 (Sulphur)
Kernel 2.6.27.9-73.fc9.i686 i686
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6550  @ 2.33GHz
CPUs: 2
2017MB RAM

... and my daughter's system, also an F9 with a different
and faster Intel Motherboard, Duo-Core, 2GB RAM

FWIW,
Dan

  

When I step on the DHCP generated /etc/resolv.conf from
Comast with one using my Wireless router as my primary
resolver, the performance of Firefox jumps dramatically.

Both the router and the DHCP generated /etc/resolv.conf
have the same DNS server entries.

DNS should be the first item to be checked.




My problem isn't how fast Firefox is getting the page, it's how slow
it is rendering them.
  
Well, what do you mean by rendering?  What exactly are you 'rendering'?  
Running
a java-based or some other application like a mandelbrot application or 
what? You

might let us know exactly what you are doing?

It is hard to tell with the little data you are giving as to determine 
if by rendering you
are getting `streaming data' coming from "remote" or "local" sources  
and if the

data (for rendering?) coming from local/remote servers and/or services?

Just wondered,
Dan

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Re: Firefox Running Slow in Linux

[paul s]

this seems to help if you haven't already...

[snip]

Reduce the amount of RAM Firefox uses for it’s cache feature

Try this:

1) Type “about:config” (no quotes) in the address bar in the browser.
2) Find “browser.sessionhistory.max_total_viewers”
3) Set it’s value to “0“;(Zero)

Increase the Speed in Which Firefox loads pages

1) Type “about:config” into the address bar and hit Enter. (Normally the 
browser will make one request to a web page at a time. When you enable 
pipelining it will make several at once, which really speeds up page 
loading.)


2) Alter the entries as follows:
Set “network.http.pipelining” to “true”
Set “network.http.proxy.pipelining” to “true”
Set “network.http.pipelining.maxrequests” to some number like 10.

This means it will make 10 requests at once.

3) Lastly, right-click anywhere and select New->Integer. Name it 
“nglayout.initialpaint.delay” and set its value to “0“;.(Zero)


This value is the amount of time the browser waits before it acts on 
information it receives. If you’re using a broadband connection you’ll 
load pages faster now.


Optionally (for even faster web browsing) here are some more options for 
your about:config (you might have to create some of these entries by 
Right Click –> New– >Interger or String


“network.dns.disableIPv6”: set “false”
“content.notify.backoffcount”: set “5”; (Five)
“ui.submenuDelay”: set “0”; (Zero)


Reduce RAM usage to 10mb when Firefox is minimized

This little hack will drop Firefox’s RAM usage down to 10 Mb when minimized:

1) Open Firefox and go to the Address Bar. Type in about:config and then 
press Enter.

2) Right Click in the page and select New -> Boolean.
3) In the box that pops up enter “config.trim_on_minimize”. Press Enter.
4) Now select True and then press Enter.
5) Restart Firefox.

These simple tweaks will make your web browsing with Mozilla Firefox at 
least twice as fast and it's a pretty simple thing anybody can do.


[/snip]


On 02/02/2009 03:02 PM, Marc Ferguson wrote:

Hi,

I know I'll probably get hazed by this already saturated question, but I 
haven't found any solid answers to my issue from the archives.  I'm 
running Fedora 10 x86_64 and loving the "adventure" of running an 64 bit 
system.  I'm also running Firefox 3.0.x (x86_64), but I've noticed that 
it's not very smooth compared to it running on a Windows machine and I'm 
little confused why.


It's more the scroll bar than anything else.  It's something small, but 
it's ruining the surfing experience and I'm a little embarrassed to let 
other people use it on my desktop.  I don't want to give Linux a bad 
name and these folks are primarily Windows/MAC users.  So; their 
experience with using Firefox on my system is a tainted one.


I've tried running Swiftfox, but I haven't gotten it to load (that's 
another issue) so I'm kind of stuck with Firefox.


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[OT] how to acquire a clustered vg on a server without lvm2-cluster

[Gianluca Cecchi]

If I have a 2-nodes cluster with a clustered VG, that I copy (for
example dd with cluster switched off), is then possible to acquire
this VG on a third standalone node, or do I have to install the whole
cluster layer on this third node too?

This is on a rhel 5.2 server

At the moment:
pvscan is ok.
 pvscan
  PV /dev/dm-11  VG VG_TEST   lvm2 [10.00 GB / 0free]

vgscan
  Reading all physical volumes.  This may take a while...
  Skipping clustered volume group VG_TEST


vgchange -cn VG_TEST
  Skipping clustered volume group VG_TEST

vgchange -ae  VG_TEST
  Skipping clustered volume group VG_TEST

vgchange -al VG_TEST
  Invalid argument l
  Error during parsing of command line.

Installing lvm2-cluster takes all sort of cluster infrastructure and
probably licenses too...

rpm -ivh lvm2-cluster-2.02.32-4.el5.x86_64.rpm
warning: lvm2-cluster-2.02.32-4.el5.x86_64.rpm: Header V3 DSA
signature: NOKEY, key ID 37017186
error: Failed dependencies:
libcman.so.2()(64bit) is needed by lvm2-cluster-2.02.32-4.el5.x86_64
libdlm.so.2()(64bit) is needed by lvm2-cluster-2.02.32-4.el5.x86_64

rpm -ivh lvm2-cluster-2.02.32-4.el5.x86_64.rpm
../Server/cman-2.0.84-2.el5.x86_64.rpm
warning: lvm2-cluster-2.02.32-4.el5.x86_64.rpm: Header V3 DSA
signature: NOKEY, key ID 37017186
error: Failed dependencies:
openais is needed by cman-2.0.84-2.el5.x86_64
libSaCkpt.so.2()(64bit) is needed by cman-2.0.84-2.el5.x86_64
libSaCkpt.so.2(OPENAIS_CKPT_B.01.01)(64bit) is needed by
cman-2.0.84-2.el5.x86_64
libcpg.so.2()(64bit) is needed by cman-2.0.84-2.el5.x86_64
libcpg.so.2(OPENAIS_CPG_1.0)(64bit) is needed by 
cman-2.0.84-2.el5.x86_64
perl(Net::Telnet) is needed by cman-2.0.84-2.el5.x86_64
perl(XML::LibXML) is needed by cman-2.0.84-2.el5.x86_64

Thanks in advance,
Gianluca

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Re: F10 post installation kernel issue?

[Rick Stevens]

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:


First time F10 install went well.  One thing I did
differently in installing F10 was to:

1) Use the Volume based filesystems
2) Enabled disk encryption

I noticed that on every reboot, one must enter the password
long before seeing a grub display.  Hmm...  maybe for a server
this is not the way to go, but for a workstation, it's probably ok.

Anyway, the initial kernel I started with is:
(1) kernel-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686

I proceeded to get the latest updates and this was approx. 1 week ago.

I later added programs I wanted installed, configured the services I 
wanted,

etc., etc., and everything went well.  I was able to reboot, no problems.

But then a few days later, more updates came through, but specifically
a new kernel was added:
(2) kernel-2.6.27.9-159.fc10.i686

Rebooting, I got the messages:
==
ata1: ACPI get timing mode failed (AE 0x300d)
Loading /lib/kdb/Keymaps/i386/qwerty/us.map


Eh?  Sure that's not "/lib/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwerty/us.map" (/lib/kbd NOT
/lib/kdb and no capital K)?

If what you posted is what's really being displayed, then we have
serious problems.  The correct directory is provided by kbd RPM.




[hang]

So, I never got to the point where I needed to enter
the encrypted disk password for continuance.

To be sure, I rebooted back to the original kernel (1),
and it booted just fine.  Leaving it there, I continued using
the system, but got yet another kernel update:
(3) kernel-2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686

Same problem reported in (2) above.  So I am still
stuck at using my initial kernel at (1).

Is there anything I can do or to check to understand why
I am not able to use the latest kernels?


If the system is looking for the keymap you've shown, it won't find it,
the console won't be set up and things will come to a screeching halt.
I run 64-bit kernels so I can't test it and I don't know where it's
getting that path from.  I have run all the kernels you show and they
run fine here.  None ask for that funky keymap path.
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Re: F10 Audigy SB / ALSA problem

[Reuben D. Budiardja]

On Tuesday 03 February 2009 7:43:24 am Rex Dieter wrote:
> RDB wrote:
> > pulseaudio[5501]: module-alsa-sink.c: ALSA woke us up to
> >  write new data to the device, but there was actually nothing to write!
> >  Most
> > likely this is an ALSA driver bug. Please report this issue to the
> > PulseAudio developers.
>
> ^^^ says it all...
>
> -- Rex
OK, so that's the source of all the trouble ? What should I do next ? Should I 
open a bug on Fedora/Redhat bugzilla or should report this to PulseAudio ?

Secondly, I managed to have most sounds with KDE to just use the device from 
KDE System Setting --> Audio and put PulseAudio as the last option. But not 
sure how to deal with non-KDE apps, for example, Flash with nspluginwrapper. 
So flash video still runs through Pulseaudio

When I tried to remove all pulseaudio related stuff, it drags a whole bunch of 
dependencies, including, e.g Totem, etc. Why were those packages built to 
depend on an audio server, rather than having more abstract way to work with 
whatever available audio server/device ?

Thanks.
RDB

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Re: updating my profile

[Tim]

On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 23:39 -0500, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
> There have been many discussions through the years on this list about
> using a more descriptive title, but they never bore fruit.

Yes, unfortunately...  

Something like "subscription options" would be a much more suitable
short description, instead of just "unsubscribe."

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Re: F10 - boot - how to get into interactive boot?

[Tim]

On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 07:37 -0700, Robin Laing wrote:
> And is it a "I" or "i"?  I have tried both.

I've not tried 10 yet, but with prior versions I've had to madly hammer
away at the "I" key, and the shift key, before I got any response.
Which always means that several services get started, as per defaults,
before I get into interactive mode.  Thanks to the lack of success /
difficulty of success, I've never worked out whether the shift key was
required.

Since then, if I've noticed booting get stuck on a particular service,
I'll force a reboot, and boot up in single mode, then edit the services
that will start.

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Re: updating my profile

[Tim]

On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 20:43 -0500, Bill wrote:
> How do I update my profile? I think I may have selected an option which 
> I want to change.

If you mean something different that your subscription to this mailing
list, you need to say.  I can imagine various "profile" things that you
might be referring to, and can only guess you mean this list.

I'm surprised there hasn't be a few rib-tickling suggestions, related to
casting shadows.  ;-)

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Re: Omega 10 release

[Globe Trotter]

--- On Mon, 2/2/09, Jake Peavy  wrote:

> From: Jake Peavy 
> Subject: Re: Omega 10 release
> To: itsme_...@yahoo.com, "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for 
> using Fedora." 
> Date: Monday, February 2, 2009, 9:57 PM
> On 2/2/09, Globe Trotter  wrote:
> >
> > Is there an Omega 10 release out? A google search only
> provides me with the
> > beta iso.
> >
> 
> ftp://ftp.infradead.org/pub/spins/ ?
> 
> -- 
> -jp

I noticed that there was a bunch of iso's. How do we decide which is for a 
64-bit system or a 32-bit system?

Many thanks,
T


  

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Re: LXDE as default in init 5

[solarflow99]

On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 6:19 AM, phil  wrote:

> solarflow99 wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Richard Shaw > hobbes1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 2:48 PM, solarflow99 >> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Richard Shaw
>>mailto:hobbes1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:39 AM, solarflow99
>>mailto:solarflo...@gmail.com>>
>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > I would like to set this as the default, but using runlevel 5
>>just
>>>> > brings up
>>>> > GDM by default and I have to select lxde every time.  Anyone
>>happen to
>>>> > know
>>>> > where you can can set this?  it doesnt seem realted to
>>prefdm, I tried
>>>> > that
>>>> > already.
>>>>
>>>> If you select LXDE from GDM then it should remember that setting. I
>>>> can't tell for sure if you've done that with the limited
>>information
>>>> you've provided.
>>>>
>>>> I recently installed F10 on a low end laptop (P2 366MHz) w/
>>128MB of
>>>> ram. I'm using LXDE in combination with Slim (login manager). I
>>>> probably should put put it in bugzilla but I created a
>>lxde.switchdesk
>>>> file (modified from the fluxbox one) so you can use switchdesk to
>>>> change to LXDE. However, I found out the hard way that if you
>>choose
>>>> your desktop in GDM, switchdesk will have no effect.
>>>
>>> all switchdesk does is create a file with a WM setting, so if
>>you type
>>> startx to bring up X then it works.  I mentioned that I had to
>>select LXDE
>>> every time from GDM so thats what I have been doing, in fact the
>>whole
>>> purpose of the message was to ask how to be able to stop doing that.
>>
>>That's got to be a configuration issue or a bug. Once you set it, it
>>should stay that way. The lack of response is either because no one
>>else is having the problem or the message subject doesn't catch
>>anyone's interest. Might try reposting it as "GDM does not remember
>>session selection" or something like that. You could try another
>>desktop and see if it's remembered on restart or not which might help
>>narrow down the scope of the problem.
>>
>>
>> I bet hardly anyone even used LXDE, its a real shame, lean software like
>> this is what we need more.  Nothing remembers the session though..
>>
>>
>>
> you may have tried it already but xfce is also a great dm, lean and
> efficient
>

ya, thats what I used to use, but I would have preferred if it was actually
like CDE as it was intended.
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C++ noshowbase ignored

[Mike -- EMAIL IGNORED]

In FC7, the line"

...
   cout << "a = 0x" << setfill('0') << hex << noshowbase <<
 setw(8) << a << dec << setfill(' ') << endl;
...

results in:

a = 0x0x91a1218

Is there something I can do about this?

Thanks,
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fedora 10 post upgrade issues with nfs

[Bob Patterson Jr]

is anyone else experienceing issues with recent upgrade to nfs?

I am unable to mount on my clients after the upgrade

~Bob
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Re: fedora 10 post upgrade issues with nfs

[Paolo Galtieri]

Yes.  The easiest solution is to remove hosts.allow and hosts.deny. Unless,
of course, you're using them :-).  Another other option is to back out
nfs-utils package to the released version.  You can also add all your hosts
to the /etc/hosts file on the server.

Paolo

On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Bob Patterson Jr wrote:

> is anyone else experienceing issues with recent upgrade to nfs?
>
> I am unable to mount on my clients after the upgrade
>
> ~Bob
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VBox Error: VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED

[kirk Ziegler]

I removed VBox and reinstalled it but got the same thing.
I've installed DKMS and kernel-devel as suggested. 
I got this error when I clicked the start button in VBox:

VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED Fedora 10

The final error message said to see the
var/lib/dkms/vboxdrv/2.1.2/build/ for more information, which says:

DKMS make.log for vboxdrv-2.1.2 for kernel 2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686
(i686) 
Tue Feb 3 11:43:46 MST 2009 

/usr/src/kernels/2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686/scripts/gcc-version.sh:
line 25: gcc: command not found 

/usr/src/kernels/2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686/scripts/gcc-version.sh:
line 26: gcc: command not found 
make: gcc: Command not found 
make: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686' 
LD /var/lib/dkms/vboxdrv/2.1.2/build/built-in.o 
CC [M] /var/lib/dkms/vboxdrv/2.1.2/build/linux/SUPDrv-linux.o 
/bin/sh: gcc: command not found 
make[1]: *** [/var/lib/dkms/vboxdrv/2.1.2/build/linux/SUPDrv-linux.o]
Error 127 
make: *** [_module_/var/lib/dkms/vboxdrv/2.1.2/build] Error 2 
make: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686'

I think my problem is with a gcc command but I don't have a clue what
this is.

Hope someone can help me with this.
Thanks, Kirk Ziegler 






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Re: F10 post installation kernel issue?

[Daniel B. Thurman]

Rick Stevens wrote:

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:


First time F10 install went well.  One thing I did
differently in installing F10 was to:

1) Use the Volume based filesystems
2) Enabled disk encryption

I noticed that on every reboot, one must enter the password
long before seeing a grub display.  Hmm...  maybe for a server
this is not the way to go, but for a workstation, it's probably ok.

Anyway, the initial kernel I started with is:
(1) kernel-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686

I proceeded to get the latest updates and this was approx. 1 week ago.

I later added programs I wanted installed, configured the services I 
wanted,
etc., etc., and everything went well.  I was able to reboot, no 
problems.


But then a few days later, more updates came through, but specifically
a new kernel was added:
(2) kernel-2.6.27.9-159.fc10.i686

Rebooting, I got the messages:
==
ata1: ACPI get timing mode failed (AE 0x300d)
Loading /lib/kdb/Keymaps/i386/qwerty/us.map


Eh?  Sure that's not "/lib/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwerty/us.map" (/lib/kbd NOT
/lib/kdb and no capital K)?

If what you posted is what's really being displayed, then we have
serious problems.  The correct directory is provided by kbd RPM.




[hang]

So, I never got to the point where I needed to enter
the encrypted disk password for continuance.

To be sure, I rebooted back to the original kernel (1),
and it booted just fine.  Leaving it there, I continued using
the system, but got yet another kernel update:
(3) kernel-2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686

Same problem reported in (2) above.  So I am still
stuck at using my initial kernel at (1).

Is there anything I can do or to check to understand why
I am not able to use the latest kernels?


If the system is looking for the keymap you've shown, it won't find it,
the console won't be set up and things will come to a screeching halt.
I run 64-bit kernels so I can't test it and I don't know where it's
getting that path from.  I have run all the kernels you show and they
run fine here.  None ask for that funky keymap path.
I double-checked and got that path wrong initially. 


The correct path shown on boot up (but appears ONLY
with the later newer kernels) are:

/lib/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwerty/us.map

It still hangs.  The interesting thing is, as I said, I can
boot with the first kernel (1) installed but not the ones
following.  Still scratching my head...

Thanks!
Dan

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Re: C++ noshowbase ignored

[Ulrich Drepper]

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> Is there something I can do about this?

Use an actually supported version of the compiler and runtime.  Later
versions (at least F9) don't have this problem.

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Re: is KDE dead - did Gnome win?

[solarflow99]

On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Craig White  wrote:

> On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 14:29 -0700, Robin Laing wrote:
> >
> > I find the way the menu is now into multi-levels in KDE to be like my
> > experience with Vista and XP without the classic interface.  To many
> > clicks/mouse motions to get to where I want to be.
> >
> > I prefer the classic menu as it drops one more menu.
> 
> as long as you realize that you can merely right click the 'Application
> Launcher' widget to 'Switch to Classic Menu Style'


LXDE:)  works like a charm, nice and lean just how software should be.
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Re: F10, NetworkManager, and intermittent dns -- Update

[McGuffey, David C.]

On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:21:05 -0700, Christopher A. Williams wrote:

> 
> On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 08:47 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:
> > On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:23:49 +1100
> > David Timms wrote:
> >
> > > Tom Horsley wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:32:08 -0500
> > > > McGuffey, David C. wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Update: Intermittent dns is still present.
> > > >
> > > > I'd strongly suspect this is NM getting the resolv.conf file
> > > > correct on initial connect, then screwing it up on
> > > > subsequent DHCP lease renewal.
> > > I get the no entries in /etc/resolv.conf directly after logging in
> > > (workaround - an NM entry with static IP, and dns). Is there a
more
> > > permanent fix for Fedora 10 (upgraded from F9) ?
> >
> > In /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> >
> > I have the line:
> >
> > PEERDNS=no
> >
> > which (in theory) prevents NM from doing anything at all to
> > the resolv.conf file when acting on that interface (of course
> > you then have to make sure you set resolv.conf yourself).
> 
> I thought NM had a know bug where it did not yet respect the
PEERDNS=no
> entry.
> 
> Has this been fixed?
> 
> The only (and most unfortunate) way I have been able to reliably keep
my
> resolf.conf file from getting waxed by NM has been to set it as
> immutable. A _very_ nasty way of doing things, but it does work.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Chris
>
Problem persists.  Have had several batches of patches pushed through
yum auto update, but nothing concerning NM to fix this problem.

I set PEERDNS=no with no affect.

I set /etc/resolv.conf to a workable solution and then removed the write
bits and set it immutable.  I get errors in /var/log/messages about it,
but the behavior is still the same.  After a reboot, all is OK. After a
while, dns dies.  Restarting NM brings it back to life...then it dies a
few minutes later.  As long as someone is actively accessing the net,
dns seems to stay up.  But give it a few minutes of idle time and
something causes it to stop. Here is a snapshot of /var/log/messages
before, during, and after a NM restart.  Can anyone figure out what is
going wrong with dns?

Feb  2 21:23:45 desk NetworkManager:   nm_signal_handler():
Caught signal 15, shutting down normally.
Feb  2 21:23:45 desk NetworkManager:   (eth0): now unmanaged Feb
2 21:23:45 desk NetworkManager:   (eth0): device state
change: 8 -> 1
Feb  2 21:23:45 desk NetworkManager:   (eth0): deactivating device
(reason: 36).
Feb  2 21:23:45 desk NetworkManager:   eth0: canceled DHCP
transaction, dhcp client pid 2034 Feb  2 21:23:45 desk NetworkManager:

nm_named_manager_remove_ip4_config(): Could not commit DNS changes.
Error: 'Could not replace /etc/resolv.conf: Operation not permitted#012'
Feb  2 21:23:45 desk NetworkManager:   check_one_route(): (eth0)
error -34 returned from rtnl_route_del(): Sucess#012 Feb  2 21:23:45
desk avahi-daemon[2071]: Withdrawing address record for
192.168.1.2 on eth0.
Feb  2 21:23:45 desk avahi-daemon[2071]: Leaving mDNS multicast group on
interface eth0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.2.
Feb  2 21:23:45 desk avahi-daemon[2071]: Interface eth0.IPv4 no longer
relevant for mDNS.
Feb  2 21:23:45 desk NetworkManager:   (eth0): cleaning up...
Feb  2 21:23:45 desk NetworkManager:   (eth0): taking down device.
Feb  2 21:23:45 desk avahi-daemon[2071]: Withdrawing address record for
fe80::207:e9ff:fef2:b64d on eth0.
Feb  2 21:23:45 desk NetworkManager:   disconnected by the system
bus.
Feb  2 21:23:45 desk nm-dispatcher.action: Error in get_property: The
name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service
files Feb  2 21:23:46 desk NetworkManager:   starting...
Feb  2 21:23:46 desk NetworkManager: 
nm_generic_enable_loopback(): error -17 returned from
rtnl_addr_add():#012Sucess#012
Feb  2 21:23:46 desk NetworkManager:   eth0: driver is 'e100'.
Feb  2 21:23:46 desk NetworkManager:   Found new Ethernet device
'eth0'.
Feb  2 21:23:46 desk NetworkManager:   (eth0): exported as
/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/net_00_07_e9_f2_b6_4d
Feb  2 21:23:50 desk NetworkManager:   (eth0): device state
change: 1 -> 2
Feb  2 21:23:50 desk NetworkManager:   (eth0): bringing up device.
Feb  2 21:23:50 desk kernel: e100: eth0: e100_watchdog: link up,
100Mbps, full-duplex Feb  2 21:23:50 desk kernel: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP):
eth0: link is not ready Feb  2 21:23:50 desk kernel:
ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready Feb  2 21:23:50 desk
NetworkManager:   (eth0): preparing device.
Feb  2 21:23:50 desk NetworkManager:   (eth0): deactivating device
(reason: 2).
Feb  2 21:23:50 desk NetworkManager:   (eth0): carrier now ON
(device state 2) Feb  2 21:23:50 desk NetworkManager:   (eth0):
device state
change: 2 -> 3
Feb  2 21:23:50 desk NetworkManager:   Activation (eth0) starting
connection 'System eth0'
Feb  2 21:23:50 desk NetworkManager:   (eth0): device state
change: 3 -> 4
Feb  2 21:23:50 desk NetworkManager:   Activation (eth0) Stage 1
of 5 (Device Prepare) scheduled...
Feb  2 21:23:50 desk NetworkManager:   Ac

Re: Kalarm autostart.

[Simon Slater]

On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 12:54 +0100, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
> I don't seem to be able to autostart kalarm on Fedora 10. If I manually start
> kalarm --tray I get this message:
> 
> [e...@epohost ~]$ kalarm --tray
> kalarm(31573)/kdecore (K*TimeZone*): KSystemTimeZones: ktimezoned initialize()
> D-Bus call failed:  "The name org.kde.kded was not provided by any .service 
> files"
> 
> kalarm works OK aftyer that though.
> 
> But how can I autostart kalarm?
> 
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> 
I can't make Kalarm go away.  Want to swap?
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Re: VBox Error: VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED

[Zacharie Elcor]

are you sure gcc is installed ?

On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 9:38 PM, kirk Ziegler  wrote:

> I removed VBox and reinstalled it but got the same thing.
> I've installed DKMS and kernel-devel as suggested.
> I got this error when I clicked the start button in VBox:
>
> VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED Fedora 10
>
> The final error message said to see the
> var/lib/dkms/vboxdrv/2.1.2/build/ for more information, which says:
>
> DKMS make.log for vboxdrv-2.1.2 for kernel 2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686
> (i686)
> Tue Feb 3 11:43:46 MST 2009
>
> /usr/src/kernels/2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686/scripts/gcc-version.sh:
> line 25: gcc: command not found
>
> /usr/src/kernels/2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686/scripts/gcc-version.sh:
> line 26: gcc: command not found
> make: gcc: Command not found
> make: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686'
> LD /var/lib/dkms/vboxdrv/2.1.2/build/built-in.o
> CC [M] /var/lib/dkms/vboxdrv/2.1.2/build/linux/SUPDrv-linux.o
> /bin/sh: gcc: command not found
> make[1]: *** [/var/lib/dkms/vboxdrv/2.1.2/build/linux/SUPDrv-linux.o]
> Error 127
> make: *** [_module_/var/lib/dkms/vboxdrv/2.1.2/build] Error 2
> make: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686'
>
> I think my problem is with a gcc command but I don't have a clue what
> this is.
>
> Hope someone can help me with this.
> Thanks, Kirk Ziegler
>
>
>
>
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Re: Kalarm autostart.

[Frank Cox]

On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 08:40:08 +1100
Simon Slater wrote:

> > But how can I autostart kalarm?

>   I can't make Kalarm go away.  Want to swap?

I've had kalarm running automatically on my desktop for quite a while.

As I recall, all I did was load kalarm, then save my session.  After that, it
just worked.

Perhaps the OP needs to do that, and you need to stop kalarm and save your
session.

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Re: Firefox Running Slow in Linux

[Arthur Pemberton]

On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Daniel B. Thurman  wrote:
> Well, what do you mean by rendering?  What exactly are you 'rendering'?

The HTML and images that are being converted to pixels.

>  Running
> a java-based or some other application like a mandelbrot application or
> what? You
> might let us know exactly what you are doing?

Just browsing the internet.

> It is hard to tell with the little data you are giving as to determine if by
> rendering you
> are getting `streaming data' coming from "remote" or "local" sources  and if
> the
> data (for rendering?) coming from local/remote servers and/or services?

Doesn't rendering simply mean creating visuals from data?

> Just wondered,
> Dan

I'm talking about scrolling through long pages and zooming in and out,
things Firefox on Windows handles with no effort.

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Re: fedora 10 post upgrade issues with nfs

[Bob Patterson Jr]

also here is all 5 lines from when i tried to mount on the client

Feb  3 17:18:00 localhost mountd[3061]: Caught signal 15, un-registering and
exiting.
Feb  3 17:18:00 localhost kernel: nfsd: last server has exited, flushing
export cache
Feb  3 17:18:01 localhost kernel: NFSD: Using /var/lib/nfs/v4recovery as the
NFSv4 state recovery directory
Feb  3 17:18:01 localhost kernel: NFSD: starting 90-second grace period
Feb  3 17:18:05 localhost rpc.statd[3093]: Caught signal 15, un-registering
and exiting.
Feb  3 17:18:05 localhost rpc.statd[3498]: Version 1.1.4 Starting


On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Bob Patterson Jr wrote:

> i have removed hosts.allow on my clients and i am getting this on my client
> in syslog
>
> Feb  3 17:18:05 localhost rpc.statd[3093]: Caught signal 15, un-registering
> and exiting.
>
>
> and it seems to be authenticating on the server because of this
>
> Feb  3 17:19:35 athens mountd[7192]: authenticated mount request from
> 192.168.1.105:715 for /isos (/isos)
>
> ~bob
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Paolo Galtieri wrote:
>
>> Yes.  The easiest solution is to remove hosts.allow and hosts.deny.
>> Unless, of course, you're using them :-).  Another other option is to back
>> out nfs-utils package to the released version.  You can also add all your
>> hosts to the /etc/hosts file on the server.
>>
>> Paolo
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Bob Patterson Jr 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> is anyone else experienceing issues with recent upgrade to nfs?
>>>
>>> I am unable to mount on my clients after the upgrade
>>>
>>> ~Bob
>>>
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OpenLDAP, OpenSSL, and Fedora 10 Stop Liking One Another ?

[Oscar Plameras]

1. System1 - I had 3 test servers running OpenLDAP-2.3.30-3.fc6,
OpenSSL-0.9.8b-15.fc6 on Linux-2.6.22.14-72.fc6.
And these were perfectly running with OPENSSL configured on
'slapd.conf' as follows:

lines cut
#
#
TLSCACertificateFile /etc/CA/cacert.pem
TLSCertificateFile/etc/pki/tls/newcert.pem
TLSCertificateKeyFile /etc/pki/tls/newkey.pem
#
#
lines cut

When I do,

#service ldap restart, and #ps -ax  I have this

slapd -h ldap:/// ldaps:/// -u ldap

I can do simple unsecured or secured queries from here.

1. System2 - Now, I upgraded 2 test servers running
OpenLDAP-2.4.12-1.fc10, OpenSSL-0.9.8g-12.fc10 on
Linux-2.6.29-159.fc10.
Suddenly I can't start slapd correctly. The problem is after
configuring 'slapd.conf' with OPENSSL, as I did in System1 and I
do a

#service ldap restart,  and #ps -ax

I found that I only have this process running:
slapd -h ldap:/// -u ldap. The ldaps:/// process did not start
suggesting I have incorrect certificates.
But I can confirm that my certificates are correct with several tests.

I had expected this process:
slapd -h ldap:/// ldaps:/// -u ldap.

So, when I do TLS secured query like:

#ldapwhoami -x -H ldaps://hostname

I got this:
ldap_sasl_bind(SIMPLE): Can't contact LDAP server (-1)

Has anyone had this problem on FC10 ?

Notes:
1. I can run this manually: #/usr/sbin/slapd -h ldap:/// ldaps:/// -u
ldap and saw slapd -h ldap:/// ldaps:/// -u ldap in my #ps -ax
I can do #ldapwhoami -x. But when I do a #ldapwhoami -x -H
ldaps://hostname I go error message can't connect to server.
2. I can run this manually: #/usr/sbin/slapd -h ldaps:/// -u ldap
I can then test my certificates correctly but SSL does not appear to
have been started.

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Re: OpenLDAP, OpenSSL, and Fedora 10 Stop Liking One Another ?

[Craig White]

On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 09:39 +1100, Oscar Plameras wrote:
> 1. System1 - I had 3 test servers running OpenLDAP-2.3.30-3.fc6,
> OpenSSL-0.9.8b-15.fc6 on Linux-2.6.22.14-72.fc6.
> And these were perfectly running with OPENSSL configured on
> 'slapd.conf' as follows:
> 
> lines cut
> #
> #
> TLSCACertificateFile /etc/CA/cacert.pem
> TLSCertificateFile/etc/pki/tls/newcert.pem
> TLSCertificateKeyFile /etc/pki/tls/newkey.pem
> #
> #
> lines cut
> 
> When I do,
> 
> #service ldap restart, and #ps -ax  I have this
> 
> slapd -h ldap:/// ldaps:/// -u ldap
> 
> I can do simple unsecured or secured queries from here.
> 
> 1. System2 - Now, I upgraded 2 test servers running
> OpenLDAP-2.4.12-1.fc10, OpenSSL-0.9.8g-12.fc10 on
> Linux-2.6.29-159.fc10.
> Suddenly I can't start slapd correctly. The problem is after
> configuring 'slapd.conf' with OPENSSL, as I did in System1 and I
> do a
> 
> #service ldap restart,  and #ps -ax
> 
> I found that I only have this process running:
> slapd -h ldap:/// -u ldap. The ldaps:/// process did not start
> suggesting I have incorrect certificates.
> But I can confirm that my certificates are correct with several tests.
> 
> I had expected this process:
> slapd -h ldap:/// ldaps:/// -u ldap.
> 
> So, when I do TLS secured query like:
> 
> #ldapwhoami -x -H ldaps://hostname
> 
> I got this:
> ldap_sasl_bind(SIMPLE): Can't contact LDAP server (-1)
> 
> Has anyone had this problem on FC10 ?
> 
> Notes:
> 1. I can run this manually: #/usr/sbin/slapd -h ldap:/// ldaps:/// -u
> ldap and saw slapd -h ldap:/// ldaps:/// -u ldap in my #ps -ax
> I can do #ldapwhoami -x. But when I do a #ldapwhoami -x -H
> ldaps://hostname I go error message can't connect to server.
> 2. I can run this manually: #/usr/sbin/slapd -h ldaps:/// -u ldap
> I can then test my certificates correctly but SSL does not appear to
> have been started.

I don't have a /etc/CA directory...do you?

I do have /etc/pki/CA directory and user ldap wouldn't be able to
descend anyway because it is perm 700 root:root

I actually have my own methods of generating certs and don't use those
in /etc/pki but the theory is much the same (and for that matter, I
don't use fedora for running openldap server).

Craig

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Re: Kalarm autostart.

[Erik P. Olsen]

On 03/02/09 22:47, Frank Cox wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 08:40:08 +1100
> Simon Slater wrote:
> 
>>> But how can I autostart kalarm?
> 
>>  I can't make Kalarm go away.  Want to swap?
> 
> I've had kalarm running automatically on my desktop for quite a while.
> 
> As I recall, all I did was load kalarm, then save my session.  After that, it
> just worked.

I've done that but apparently it doesn't work on my system.

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Re: OpenLDAP, OpenSSL, and Fedora 10 Stop Liking One Another ?

[Oscar Plameras]

I have these cyrus modules installed:

cyrus-sasl-md5-2.1.22-19.fc10.i386
cyrus-sasl-lib-2.1.22-19.fc10.i386
cyrus-sasl-krb4-2.1.22-19.fc10.i386
cyrus-sasl-plain-2.1.22-19.fc10.i386
cyrus-sasl-devel-2.1.22-19.fc10.i386
cyrus-sasl-2.1.22-19.fc10.i386

OPlameras

On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Rick Stevens  wrote:
> Oscar Plameras wrote:
>>
>> 1. System1 - I had 3 test servers running OpenLDAP-2.3.30-3.fc6,
>> OpenSSL-0.9.8b-15.fc6 on Linux-2.6.22.14-72.fc6.
>> And these were perfectly running with OPENSSL configured on
>> 'slapd.conf' as follows:
>>
>> lines cut
>> #
>> #
>> TLSCACertificateFile /etc/CA/cacert.pem
>> TLSCertificateFile/etc/pki/tls/newcert.pem
>> TLSCertificateKeyFile /etc/pki/tls/newkey.pem
>> #
>> #
>> lines cut
>>
>> When I do,
>>
>> #service ldap restart, and #ps -ax  I have this
>>
>> slapd -h ldap:/// ldaps:/// -u ldap
>>
>> I can do simple unsecured or secured queries from here.
>>
>> 1. System2 - Now, I upgraded 2 test servers running
>> OpenLDAP-2.4.12-1.fc10, OpenSSL-0.9.8g-12.fc10 on
>> Linux-2.6.29-159.fc10.
>> Suddenly I can't start slapd correctly. The problem is after
>> configuring 'slapd.conf' with OPENSSL, as I did in System1 and I
>> do a
>>
>> #service ldap restart,  and #ps -ax
>>
>> I found that I only have this process running:
>> slapd -h ldap:/// -u ldap. The ldaps:/// process did not start
>> suggesting I have incorrect certificates.
>> But I can confirm that my certificates are correct with several tests.
>>
>> I had expected this process:
>> slapd -h ldap:/// ldaps:/// -u ldap.
>>
>> So, when I do TLS secured query like:
>>
>> #ldapwhoami -x -H ldaps://hostname
>>
>> I got this:
>> ldap_sasl_bind(SIMPLE): Can't contact LDAP server (-1)
>>
>> Has anyone had this problem on FC10 ?
>>
>> Notes:
>> 1. I can run this manually: #/usr/sbin/slapd -h ldap:/// ldaps:/// -u
>> ldap and saw slapd -h ldap:/// ldaps:/// -u ldap in my #ps -ax
>> I can do #ldapwhoami -x. But when I do a #ldapwhoami -x -H
>> ldaps://hostname I go error message can't connect to server.
>> 2. I can run this manually: #/usr/sbin/slapd -h ldaps:/// -u ldap
>> I can then test my certificates correctly but SSL does not appear to
>> have been started.
>
> OpenLDAP 2.4 uses SASL by default.  Install cyrus-sasl-md5 and its
> requirements unless you always use simple binds.
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Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 60, Issue 17

[kirk Ziegler]

I've got "GCC version 4.3 hared support library, libgcc-4.3.2-7 (i386)".
There are several more that aren't installed, any suggestions?


> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:43:59 +0100
> From: Zacharie Elcor 
> Subject: Re: VBox Error: VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED
> To: kirk...@q.com, "Community assistance, encouragement,  and advice
>   for using Fedora." 
> Message-ID:
>   
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> are you sure gcc is installed ?
> 
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 9:38 PM, kirk Ziegler  wrote:
> 
> > I removed VBox and reinstalled it but got the same thing.
> > I've installed DKMS and kernel-devel as suggested.
> > I got this error when I clicked the start button in VBox:
> >
> > VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED Fedora 10
> >
> > The final error message said to see the
> > var/lib/dkms/vboxdrv/2.1.2/build/ for more information, which says:
> >
> > DKMS make.log for vboxdrv-2.1.2 for kernel 2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686
> > (i686)
> > Tue Feb 3 11:43:46 MST 2009
> >
> > /usr/src/kernels/2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686/scripts/gcc-version.sh:
> > line 25: gcc: command not found
> >
> > /usr/src/kernels/2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686/scripts/gcc-version.sh:
> > line 26: gcc: command not found
> > make: gcc: Command not found
> > make: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686'
> > LD /var/lib/dkms/vboxdrv/2.1.2/build/built-in.o
> > CC [M] /var/lib/dkms/vboxdrv/2.1.2/build/linux/SUPDrv-linux.o
> > /bin/sh: gcc: command not found
> > make[1]: *** [/var/lib/dkms/vboxdrv/2.1.2/build/linux/SUPDrv-linux.o]
> > Error 127
> > make: *** [_module_/var/lib/dkms/vboxdrv/2.1.2/build] Error 2
> > make: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686'
> >
> > I think my problem is with a gcc command but I don't have a clue what
> > this is.
> >
> > Hope someone can help me with this.
> > Thanks, Kirk Ziegler


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Re: F10 post installation kernel issue?

[Daniel B. Thurman]

Rick Stevens wrote:

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:

Rick Stevens wrote:

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:


First time F10 install went well.  One thing I did
differently in installing F10 was to:

1) Use the Volume based filesystems
2) Enabled disk encryption

I noticed that on every reboot, one must enter the password
long before seeing a grub display.  Hmm...  maybe for a server
this is not the way to go, but for a workstation, it's probably ok.

Anyway, the initial kernel I started with is:
(1) kernel-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686

I proceeded to get the latest updates and this was approx. 1 week 
ago.


I later added programs I wanted installed, configured the services 
I wanted,
etc., etc., and everything went well.  I was able to reboot, no 
problems.


But then a few days later, more updates came through, but 
specifically

a new kernel was added:
(2) kernel-2.6.27.9-159.fc10.i686

Rebooting, I got the messages:
==
ata1: ACPI get timing mode failed (AE 0x300d)
Loading /lib/kdb/Keymaps/i386/qwerty/us.map


Eh?  Sure that's not "/lib/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwerty/us.map" (/lib/kbd 
NOT

/lib/kdb and no capital K)?

If what you posted is what's really being displayed, then we have
serious problems.  The correct directory is provided by kbd RPM.




[hang]

So, I never got to the point where I needed to enter
the encrypted disk password for continuance.

To be sure, I rebooted back to the original kernel (1),
and it booted just fine.  Leaving it there, I continued using
the system, but got yet another kernel update:
(3) kernel-2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686

Same problem reported in (2) above.  So I am still
stuck at using my initial kernel at (1).

Is there anything I can do or to check to understand why
I am not able to use the latest kernels?


If the system is looking for the keymap you've shown, it won't find it,
the console won't be set up and things will come to a screeching halt.
I run 64-bit kernels so I can't test it and I don't know where it's
getting that path from.  I have run all the kernels you show and they
run fine here.  None ask for that funky keymap path.

I double-checked and got that path wrong initially.
The correct path shown on boot up (but appears ONLY
with the later newer kernels) are:

/lib/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwerty/us.map

It still hangs.  The interesting thing is, as I said, I can
boot with the first kernel (1) installed but not the ones
following.  Still scratching my head...


Ok, hmmm.  It looks like the initrd images didn't get built right.  Boot
up under the kernel that works, then as root:

# cd /boot
# mkinitrd -f -v initrd-2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686.img
2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686

(the second and third lines should be ONE line...my mailer is wrapping
them)

Then try rebooting using that -170 kernel again.  The keymaps and things
actually are in the initrd image as well as the main system.  See if
that does the job.

Did what you suggested and it does not change anything.  Still hangs.
I tried autorelabel for SeLinux just in case, no change.  It is subjective,
but could having the filesystem encrypted be a problem?  Did you try
to see if you can run all the kernel version under an encrypted filesystem?

I am now testing to see if removing any packages (one by one) has any 
effect,

a shot in the dark, but I do not know what else to do.

Thanks!
Dan

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Re: F10 Audigy SB / ALSA problem

[solarflow99]

On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Andras Simon  wrote:

> On 2/3/09, Reuben D. Budiardja  wrote:
>
> > I can't remember what I tried to remove (don't have access to the machine
> > right now), but I did "rpm -qa | grep pulse" and tried to remove all
> those
> > packages that show up with pulseaudio. That's probably too much... So
> I'll
> > just try removing pulseaudio as you suggested.
>
> I don't use PA (not that I wouldn't  like to... but I digress) and get
> by fine with these pulse-related packages:
>
> pulseaudio-utils
> pulseaudio-libs
> pulseaudio-core-libs
> pulseaudio-libs-glib2
>
> So perhaps (a subset of) these are what you should install.
>



 rpm -e pulseaudio

error: Failed dependencies:
libauth-cookie.so is needed by (installed)
pulseaudio-module-x11-0.9.13-6.fc10.i386
libauthkey.so is needed by (installed)
pulseaudio-module-x11-0.9.13-6.fc10.i386
libprotocol-native.so is needed by (installed)
pulseaudio-module-x11-0.9.13-6.fc10.i386
libstrlist.so is needed by (installed)
pulseaudio-module-x11-0.9.13-6.fc10.i386
pulseaudio = 0.9.13-6.fc10 is needed by (installed)
pulseaudio-module-gconf-0.9.13-6.fc10.i386
pulseaudio = 0.9.13-6.fc10 is needed by (installed)
pulseaudio-module-x11-0.9.13-6.fc10.i386
pulseaudio is needed by (installed)
alsa-plugins-pulseaudio-1.0.18-2.fc10.i386
pulseaudio = 0.9.13-6.fc10 is needed by (installed)
pulseaudio-esound-compat-0.9.13-6.fc10.i386



yum remove pulseaudio

Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Setting up Remove Process
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package pulseaudio.i386 0:0.9.13-6.fc10 set to be erased
--> Processing Dependency: libauth-cookie.so for package:
pulseaudio-module-x11
--> Processing Dependency: libauthkey.so for package: pulseaudio-module-x11
--> Processing Dependency: libprotocol-native.so for package:
pulseaudio-module-x11
--> Processing Dependency: libstrlist.so for package: pulseaudio-module-x11
--> Processing Dependency: pulseaudio for package: alsa-plugins-pulseaudio
--> Processing Dependency: pulseaudio = 0.9.13-6.fc10 for package:
pulseaudio-esound-compat
--> Processing Dependency: pulseaudio = 0.9.13-6.fc10 for package:
pulseaudio-module-gconf
--> Processing Dependency: pulseaudio = 0.9.13-6.fc10 for package:
pulseaudio-module-x11
--> Running transaction check
---> Package pulseaudio-esound-compat.i386 0:0.9.13-6.fc10 set to be erased
---> Package pulseaudio-module-x11.i386 0:0.9.13-6.fc10 set to be erased
---> Package pulseaudio-module-gconf.i386 0:0.9.13-6.fc10 set to be erased
---> Package alsa-plugins-pulseaudio.i386 0:1.0.18-2.fc10 set to be erased
--> Finished Dependency Resolution

Dependencies Resolved


 Package  Arch Version  Repository
Size

Removing:
 pulseaudio   i386 0.9.13-6.fc10installed
1.2 M
Removing for dependencies:
 alsa-plugins-pulseaudio  i386 1.0.18-2.fc10installed
89 k
 pulseaudio-esound-compat i386 0.9.13-6.fc10installed
3.2 k
 pulseaudio-module-gconf  i386 0.9.13-6.fc10installed
16 k
 pulseaudio-module-x11i386 0.9.13-6.fc10installed
42 k




now my sounds works too, no more choppy sound and high cpu load
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Re: Xemacs over ssh tunnel question

[Wolfgang S. Rupprecht]

Jerry Feldman  writes:
> My Desktop system at work is an HP Integrity (IA64) with Fedora 9 and
> a GNOME desktop.  Because I do a lot of compiling under xemacs, I ssh
> -X 
> to a RHEL 5.2 system to run xemacs. Under RHEL 4, everything worked
> fine, but under RHEL 5.2 I am unable to click on any buttons on a
> dialog box. Everything else works fine.

Maybe you need "ssh -Y"?

(Although you really putting your trust in the remote system's
security if you do that.)

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Re: Kalarm autostart.

[Frank Cox]

On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 00:08:12 +0100
Erik P. Olsen wrote:

> >>> But how can I autostart kalarm?

> > As I recall, all I did was load kalarm, then save my session.  After that, 
> > it
> > just worked.
> 
> I've done that but apparently it doesn't work on my system.

I just did a bit of digging, and found this:

[frank...@mutt ~]$ ls .config/autostart
gdesklets.desktop  kalarm-2.desktop  kalarm.desktop
[frank...@mutt ~]$ cat .config/autostart/kalarm-2.desktop 

[Desktop Entry]
Type=Application
Name=kalarm
Exec=kalarm
Icon=system-run
Comment=
[frank...@mutt ~]$ cat .config/autostart/kalarm.desktop 
[Desktop Entry]
Name=No name
Encoding=UTF-8
Version=1.0
Name[en_US]=Kalarm
Exec=/usr/bin/kalarm
X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=true



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Re: LXDE as default in init 5

[solarflow99]

On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Kam Leo  wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Richard Shaw  wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 2:48 PM, solarflow99 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Richard Shaw 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:39 AM, solarflow99 
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > I would like to set this as the default, but using runlevel 5 just
> >>> > brings up
> >>> > GDM by default and I have to select lxde every time.  Anyone happen
> to
> >>> > know
> >>> > where you can can set this?  it doesnt seem realted to prefdm, I
> tried
> >>> > that
> >>> > already.
> >>>
> >>> If you select LXDE from GDM then it should remember that setting. I
> >>> can't tell for sure if you've done that with the limited information
> >>> you've provided.
> >>>
> >>> I recently installed F10 on a low end laptop (P2 366MHz) w/ 128MB of
> >>> ram. I'm using LXDE in combination with Slim (login manager). I
> >>> probably should put put it in bugzilla but I created a lxde.switchdesk
> >>> file (modified from the fluxbox one) so you can use switchdesk to
> >>> change to LXDE. However, I found out the hard way that if you choose
> >>> your desktop in GDM, switchdesk will have no effect.
> >>
> >> all switchdesk does is create a file with a WM setting, so if you type
> >> startx to bring up X then it works.  I mentioned that I had to select
> LXDE
> >> every time from GDM so thats what I have been doing, in fact the whole
> >> purpose of the message was to ask how to be able to stop doing that.
> >
> > That's got to be a configuration issue or a bug. Once you set it, it
> > should stay that way. The lack of response is either because no one
> > else is having the problem or the message subject doesn't catch
> > anyone's interest. Might try reposting it as "GDM does not remember
> > session selection" or something like that. You could try another
> > desktop and see if it's remembered on restart or not which might help
> > narrow down the scope of the problem.
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > Richard
>
> As I recall in F10 the file, /etc/sysconfig/desktop, was not installed
> by default. Have you checked to see if the file exists? If not, create
> the file with the following contents and file a bug report:
>
> DESKTOP="LXDE"
> DISPLAYMANAGER="GNOME"


those settings dont work, if I set PREFERRED=/usr/bin/lxde then it will as
long as i'm in runlevel 3 and use startx.  I see one of the reasons why it
doesnt save the session is because i'm one of the ones that uses root to
login, i'd like to find where GDM seems to get its session data from and add
root in the list.
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Re: C++ noshowbase ignored

[Todd Denniston]

Mike -- EMAIL IGNORED wrote, On 02/03/2009 02:47 PM:

In FC7, the line"

...
   cout << "a = 0x" << setfill('0') << hex << noshowbase <<
 setw(8) << a << dec << setfill(' ') << endl;
...

results in:

a = 0x0x91a1218

Is there something I can do about this?



Mr. Obvious asked, "how 'bout changing the code like so:"
...
   cout << "a = " << setfill('0') << hex << noshowbase <<
 setw(8) << a << dec << setfill(' ') << endl;
...

or for more pain
http://www.open-std.org/JTC1/sc22/wg21/docs/lwg-defects.html#183
cout << resetiosflags(ios_base::showbase)


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Re: OpenLDAP, OpenSSL, and Fedora 10 Stop Liking One Another ?

[Rick Stevens]

Oscar Plameras wrote:

1. System1 - I had 3 test servers running OpenLDAP-2.3.30-3.fc6,
OpenSSL-0.9.8b-15.fc6 on Linux-2.6.22.14-72.fc6.
And these were perfectly running with OPENSSL configured on
'slapd.conf' as follows:

lines cut
#
#
TLSCACertificateFile /etc/CA/cacert.pem
TLSCertificateFile/etc/pki/tls/newcert.pem
TLSCertificateKeyFile /etc/pki/tls/newkey.pem
#
#
lines cut

When I do,

#service ldap restart, and #ps -ax  I have this

slapd -h ldap:/// ldaps:/// -u ldap

I can do simple unsecured or secured queries from here.

1. System2 - Now, I upgraded 2 test servers running
OpenLDAP-2.4.12-1.fc10, OpenSSL-0.9.8g-12.fc10 on
Linux-2.6.29-159.fc10.
Suddenly I can't start slapd correctly. The problem is after
configuring 'slapd.conf' with OPENSSL, as I did in System1 and I
do a

#service ldap restart,  and #ps -ax

I found that I only have this process running:
slapd -h ldap:/// -u ldap. The ldaps:/// process did not start
suggesting I have incorrect certificates.
But I can confirm that my certificates are correct with several tests.

I had expected this process:
slapd -h ldap:/// ldaps:/// -u ldap.

So, when I do TLS secured query like:

#ldapwhoami -x -H ldaps://hostname

I got this:
ldap_sasl_bind(SIMPLE): Can't contact LDAP server (-1)

Has anyone had this problem on FC10 ?

Notes:
1. I can run this manually: #/usr/sbin/slapd -h ldap:/// ldaps:/// -u
ldap and saw slapd -h ldap:/// ldaps:/// -u ldap in my #ps -ax
I can do #ldapwhoami -x. But when I do a #ldapwhoami -x -H
ldaps://hostname I go error message can't connect to server.
2. I can run this manually: #/usr/sbin/slapd -h ldaps:/// -u ldap
I can then test my certificates correctly but SSL does not appear to
have been started.


OpenLDAP 2.4 uses SASL by default.  Install cyrus-sasl-md5 and its
requirements unless you always use simple binds.
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Re: OpenLDAP, OpenSSL, and Fedora 10 Stop Liking One Another ?

[Oscar Plameras]

Yes, I have. This what I do to create certificates:

#cd /etc/pki/tls
#./misc/CA -newca # do once the first time
#./misc/CA -newreq# do everytime you want another
#./misc/CA -sign#

This will create a directory CA under /etc when you do #./misc/CA the
first time.

On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Craig White  wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 09:39 +1100, Oscar Plameras wrote:
>> 1. System1 - I had 3 test servers running OpenLDAP-2.3.30-3.fc6,
>> OpenSSL-0.9.8b-15.fc6 on Linux-2.6.22.14-72.fc6.
>> And these were perfectly running with OPENSSL configured on
>> 'slapd.conf' as follows:
>>
>> lines cut
>> #
>> #
>> TLSCACertificateFile /etc/CA/cacert.pem
>> TLSCertificateFile/etc/pki/tls/newcert.pem
>> TLSCertificateKeyFile /etc/pki/tls/newkey.pem
>> #
>> #
>> lines cut
>>
>> When I do,
>>
>> #service ldap restart, and #ps -ax  I have this
>>
>> slapd -h ldap:/// ldaps:/// -u ldap
>>
>> I can do simple unsecured or secured queries from here.
>>
>> 1. System2 - Now, I upgraded 2 test servers running
>> OpenLDAP-2.4.12-1.fc10, OpenSSL-0.9.8g-12.fc10 on
>> Linux-2.6.29-159.fc10.
>> Suddenly I can't start slapd correctly. The problem is after
>> configuring 'slapd.conf' with OPENSSL, as I did in System1 and I
>> do a
>>
>> #service ldap restart,  and #ps -ax
>>
>> I found that I only have this process running:
>> slapd -h ldap:/// -u ldap. The ldaps:/// process did not start
>> suggesting I have incorrect certificates.
>> But I can confirm that my certificates are correct with several tests.
>>
>> I had expected this process:
>> slapd -h ldap:/// ldaps:/// -u ldap.
>>
>> So, when I do TLS secured query like:
>>
>> #ldapwhoami -x -H ldaps://hostname
>>
>> I got this:
>> ldap_sasl_bind(SIMPLE): Can't contact LDAP server (-1)
>>
>> Has anyone had this problem on FC10 ?
>>
>> Notes:
>> 1. I can run this manually: #/usr/sbin/slapd -h ldap:/// ldaps:/// -u
>> ldap and saw slapd -h ldap:/// ldaps:/// -u ldap in my #ps -ax
>> I can do #ldapwhoami -x. But when I do a #ldapwhoami -x -H
>> ldaps://hostname I go error message can't connect to server.
>> 2. I can run this manually: #/usr/sbin/slapd -h ldaps:/// -u ldap
>> I can then test my certificates correctly but SSL does not appear to
>> have been started.
> 
> I don't have a /etc/CA directory...do you?
>
> I do have /etc/pki/CA directory and user ldap wouldn't be able to
> descend anyway because it is perm 700 root:root
>
> I actually have my own methods of generating certs and don't use those
> in /etc/pki but the theory is much the same (and for that matter, I
> don't use fedora for running openldap server).
>
> Craig
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Re: F10 post installation kernel issue?

[Rick Stevens]

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:

Rick Stevens wrote:

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:

Rick Stevens wrote:

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:


First time F10 install went well.  One thing I did
differently in installing F10 was to:

1) Use the Volume based filesystems
2) Enabled disk encryption

I noticed that on every reboot, one must enter the password
long before seeing a grub display.  Hmm...  maybe for a server
this is not the way to go, but for a workstation, it's probably ok.

Anyway, the initial kernel I started with is:
(1) kernel-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686

I proceeded to get the latest updates and this was approx. 1 week 
ago.


I later added programs I wanted installed, configured the services 
I wanted,
etc., etc., and everything went well.  I was able to reboot, no 
problems.


But then a few days later, more updates came through, but 
specifically

a new kernel was added:
(2) kernel-2.6.27.9-159.fc10.i686

Rebooting, I got the messages:
==
ata1: ACPI get timing mode failed (AE 0x300d)
Loading /lib/kdb/Keymaps/i386/qwerty/us.map


Eh?  Sure that's not "/lib/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwerty/us.map" (/lib/kbd 
NOT

/lib/kdb and no capital K)?

If what you posted is what's really being displayed, then we have
serious problems.  The correct directory is provided by kbd RPM.




[hang]

So, I never got to the point where I needed to enter
the encrypted disk password for continuance.

To be sure, I rebooted back to the original kernel (1),
and it booted just fine.  Leaving it there, I continued using
the system, but got yet another kernel update:
(3) kernel-2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686

Same problem reported in (2) above.  So I am still
stuck at using my initial kernel at (1).

Is there anything I can do or to check to understand why
I am not able to use the latest kernels?


If the system is looking for the keymap you've shown, it won't find it,
the console won't be set up and things will come to a screeching halt.
I run 64-bit kernels so I can't test it and I don't know where it's
getting that path from.  I have run all the kernels you show and they
run fine here.  None ask for that funky keymap path.

I double-checked and got that path wrong initially.
The correct path shown on boot up (but appears ONLY
with the later newer kernels) are:

/lib/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwerty/us.map

It still hangs.  The interesting thing is, as I said, I can
boot with the first kernel (1) installed but not the ones
following.  Still scratching my head...


Ok, hmmm.  It looks like the initrd images didn't get built right.  Boot
up under the kernel that works, then as root:

# cd /boot
# mkinitrd -f -v initrd-2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686.img
2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686

(the second and third lines should be ONE line...my mailer is wrapping
them)

Then try rebooting using that -170 kernel again.  The keymaps and things
actually are in the initrd image as well as the main system.  See if
that does the job.

Did what you suggested and it does not change anything.  Still hangs.
I tried autorelabel for SeLinux just in case, no change.  It is subjective,
but could having the filesystem encrypted be a problem?


I've heard of issues regarding encrypted filesystems.  I'm pretty sure
there's a thread on it in this forum somewhere.  It may be that the
initrd didn't get built with the cryptographic stuff.  I don't think
mkinitrd is smart enough to realize it needs the crypto stuff from the
/etc/modprobe.conf or /etc/fstab and you have to force feed it that
stuff with "--with=module" on the command line.

>Did you try

to see if you can run all the kernel version under an encrypted filesystem?


I don't use encrypted filesystems myself, so I'm going to have to bow
out on any of that stuff.  However, when you built the initrd, I 
recommended you use the "-v" flag.  You should have seen it include the

crypto modules along with the "dm-" stuff.  If not...well, that may be
your problem.

I am now testing to see if removing any packages (one by one) has any 
effect,

a shot in the dark, but I do not know what else to do.


Don't think that's it.  It's quitting long before any other stuff is
loaded up...it's definitely having issues with the root filesystem,
and I'm willing to bet it is this crypto stuff.  Check the archives of
this list to find the thread(s) regarding it.
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Re: OpenLDAP, OpenSSL, and Fedora 10 Stop Liking One Another ?

[Nalin Dahyabhai]

On Wed, Feb 04, 2009 at 09:39:07AM +1100, Oscar Plameras wrote:
> 1. System1 - I had 3 test servers running OpenLDAP-2.3.30-3.fc6,
> OpenSSL-0.9.8b-15.fc6 on Linux-2.6.22.14-72.fc6.
> And these were perfectly running with OPENSSL configured on
> 'slapd.conf' as follows:
> 
> lines cut
> #
> #
> TLSCACertificateFile /etc/CA/cacert.pem
> TLSCertificateFile/etc/pki/tls/newcert.pem
> TLSCertificateKeyFile /etc/pki/tls/newkey.pem
> #
> #
> lines cut
> 
> When I do,
> 
> #service ldap restart, and #ps -ax  I have this
> 
> slapd -h ldap:/// ldaps:/// -u ldap
> 
> I can do simple unsecured or secured queries from here.
> 
> 1. System2 - Now, I upgraded 2 test servers running
> OpenLDAP-2.4.12-1.fc10, OpenSSL-0.9.8g-12.fc10 on
> Linux-2.6.29-159.fc10.
> Suddenly I can't start slapd correctly. The problem is after
> configuring 'slapd.conf' with OPENSSL, as I did in System1 and I
> do a
> 
> #service ldap restart,  and #ps -ax
> 
> I found that I only have this process running:
> slapd -h ldap:/// -u ldap. The ldaps:/// process did not start
> suggesting I have incorrect certificates.
> But I can confirm that my certificates are correct with several tests.

In older releases, the init script checked for TLS-related settings in
slapd.conf and if it found some, forcibly added 'ldaps:///' to the list
of values passed to slapd as arguments for its '-h' flag.

It looks like it doesn't do that any more.  Rather, it expects that
you'll set SLAPD_LDAPS to "yes" in /etc/sysconfig/ldap.  I'm only
guessing as to why, but it looks like one of the benefits of changing
the way that the init script works is that you can now disable listening
for non-SSL connections without editing the init script.

HTH,

Nalin

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Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 60, Issue 18

[kirk Ziegler]

I solved my problem with "yum install gcc"

Thanks, Kirk



On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 18:45 -0500, fedora-list-requ...@redhat.com wrote:
>  Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 16:18:15 -0700
> From: kirk Ziegler 
> Subject: Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 60, Issue 17
> To: fedora-list@redhat.com
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> I've got "GCC version 4.3 hared support library, libgcc-4.3.2-7
> (i386)".
> There are several more that aren't installed, any suggestions?
> 
> 
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:43:59 +0100
> > From: Zacharie Elcor 
> > Subject: Re: VBox Error: VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED
> > To: kirk...@q.com, "Community assistance, encouragement,  and
> advice
> >   for using Fedora." 
> > Message-ID:
> >   
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > 
> > are you sure gcc is installed ?
> > 
> > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 9:38 PM, kirk Ziegler  wrote:
> > 
> > > I removed VBox and reinstalled it but got the same thing.
> > > I've installed DKMS and kernel-devel as suggested.
> > > I got this error when I clicked the start button in VBox:
> > >
> > > VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED Fedora 10
> > >
> > > The final error message said to see the
> > > var/lib/dkms/vboxdrv/2.1.2/build/ for more information, which
> says:
> > >
> > > DKMS make.log for vboxdrv-2.1.2 for kernel
> 2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686
> > > (i686)
> > > Tue Feb 3 11:43:46 MST 2009
> > >
> >
> > /usr/src/kernels/2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686/scripts/gcc-version.sh:
> > > line 25: gcc: command not found
> > >
> >
> > /usr/src/kernels/2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686/scripts/gcc-version.sh:
> > > line 26: gcc: command not found
> > > make: gcc: Command not found
> > > make: Entering directory
> `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686'
> > > LD /var/lib/dkms/vboxdrv/2.1.2/build/built-in.o
> > > CC [M] /var/lib/dkms/vboxdrv/2.1.2/build/linux/SUPDrv-linux.o
> > > /bin/sh: gcc: command not found
> > > make[1]: ***
> [/var/lib/dkms/vboxdrv/2.1.2/build/linux/SUPDrv-linux.o]
> > > Error 127
> > > make: *** [_module_/var/lib/dkms/vboxdrv/2.1.2/build] Error 2
> > > make: Leaving directory
> `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686'
> > >
> > > I think my problem is with a gcc command but I don't have a clue
> what
> > > this is.
> > >
> > > Hope someone can help me with this.
> > > Thanks, Kirk Ziegler
> 

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Re: OpenLDAP, OpenSSL, and Fedora 10 Stop Liking One Another ?

[Craig White]

On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 10:21 +1100, Oscar Plameras wrote:
> Yes, I have. This what I do to create certificates:
> 
> #cd /etc/pki/tls
> #./misc/CA -newca # do once the first time
> #./misc/CA -newreq# do everytime you want another
> #./misc/CA -sign#
> 
> This will create a directory CA under /etc when you do #./misc/CA the
> first time.
> 

can user 'ldap' access the file/directory?

Craig

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Re: Firefox Running Slow in Linux

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 16:24 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Daniel B. Thurman  wrote:
> > Well, what do you mean by rendering?  What exactly are you 'rendering'?
> 
> The HTML and images that are being converted to pixels.
> 
> >  Running
> > a java-based or some other application like a mandelbrot application or
> > what? You
> > might let us know exactly what you are doing?
> 
> Just browsing the internet.
> 
> > It is hard to tell with the little data you are giving as to determine if by
> > rendering you
> > are getting `streaming data' coming from "remote" or "local" sources  and if
> > the
> > data (for rendering?) coming from local/remote servers and/or services?
> 
> Doesn't rendering simply mean creating visuals from data?
> 
> > Just wondered,
> > Dan
> 
> I'm talking about scrolling through long pages and zooming in and out,
> things Firefox on Windows handles with no effort.

I'll just comment that I have no performance problems with FF on F10
x86_64, except that it can take a while to start up and has sometimes
been known to suck cpu (possibly the Java plugin is doing this in my
case). This is KDE 4.1, Intel Core 2 Duo, 4GB of RAM (but it was the
same with 2GB) and onboard Intel video. I don't use Compiz. I do use
AdBlock, Flashblock and NoScript.

poc

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Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 60, Issue 17

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 16:18 -0700, kirk Ziegler wrote:
> I've got "GCC version 4.3 hared support library, libgcc-4.3.2-7 (i386)".
> There are several more that aren't installed, any suggestions?

That's just a library. It doesn't mean you have the actual compiler,
which VBox needs to recompile stuff for new kernel version.

What does "rpm -q gcc" say?

poc

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Re: LXDE as default in init 5

[Aldo Foot]

On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:39 AM, solarflow99  wrote:
> I would like to set this as the default, but using runlevel 5 just brings up
> GDM by default and I have to select lxde every time.  Anyone happen to know
> where you can can set this?  it doesnt seem realted to prefdm, I tried that
> already.

I selected LXDE at the GDM. Logged in. Rebooted. The LXDE was still
selected when
I logged in a second time.
In my system I have a hidden file, which stores my desktop selection
to remember it:

$ cat $HOME/.dmrc
[Desktop]
Session=LXDE

first time I ever try LXDE and is indeed quite fast.
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Re: F10 post installation kernel issue?

[Rick Stevens]

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:

Rick Stevens wrote:

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:


First time F10 install went well.  One thing I did
differently in installing F10 was to:

1) Use the Volume based filesystems
2) Enabled disk encryption

I noticed that on every reboot, one must enter the password
long before seeing a grub display.  Hmm...  maybe for a server
this is not the way to go, but for a workstation, it's probably ok.

Anyway, the initial kernel I started with is:
(1) kernel-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686

I proceeded to get the latest updates and this was approx. 1 week ago.

I later added programs I wanted installed, configured the services I 
wanted,
etc., etc., and everything went well.  I was able to reboot, no 
problems.


But then a few days later, more updates came through, but specifically
a new kernel was added:
(2) kernel-2.6.27.9-159.fc10.i686

Rebooting, I got the messages:
==
ata1: ACPI get timing mode failed (AE 0x300d)
Loading /lib/kdb/Keymaps/i386/qwerty/us.map


Eh?  Sure that's not "/lib/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwerty/us.map" (/lib/kbd NOT
/lib/kdb and no capital K)?

If what you posted is what's really being displayed, then we have
serious problems.  The correct directory is provided by kbd RPM.




[hang]

So, I never got to the point where I needed to enter
the encrypted disk password for continuance.

To be sure, I rebooted back to the original kernel (1),
and it booted just fine.  Leaving it there, I continued using
the system, but got yet another kernel update:
(3) kernel-2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686

Same problem reported in (2) above.  So I am still
stuck at using my initial kernel at (1).

Is there anything I can do or to check to understand why
I am not able to use the latest kernels?


If the system is looking for the keymap you've shown, it won't find it,
the console won't be set up and things will come to a screeching halt.
I run 64-bit kernels so I can't test it and I don't know where it's
getting that path from.  I have run all the kernels you show and they
run fine here.  None ask for that funky keymap path.

I double-checked and got that path wrong initially.
The correct path shown on boot up (but appears ONLY
with the later newer kernels) are:

/lib/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwerty/us.map

It still hangs.  The interesting thing is, as I said, I can
boot with the first kernel (1) installed but not the ones
following.  Still scratching my head...


Ok, hmmm.  It looks like the initrd images didn't get built right.  Boot
up under the kernel that works, then as root:

# cd /boot
# mkinitrd -f -v initrd-2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686.img
2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686

(the second and third lines should be ONE line...my mailer is wrapping
them)

Then try rebooting using that -170 kernel again.  The keymaps and things
actually are in the initrd image as well as the main system.  See if
that does the job.
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Re: F10 post installation kernel issue?

[Daniel B. Thurman]

Rick Stevens wrote:

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:

Rick Stevens wrote:

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:

Rick Stevens wrote:

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:


First time F10 install went well.  One thing I did
differently in installing F10 was to:

1) Use the Volume based filesystems
2) Enabled disk encryption

I noticed that on every reboot, one must enter the password
long before seeing a grub display.  Hmm...  maybe for a server
this is not the way to go, but for a workstation, it's probably ok.

Anyway, the initial kernel I started with is:
(1) kernel-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686

I proceeded to get the latest updates and this was approx. 1 
week ago.


I later added programs I wanted installed, configured the 
services I wanted,
etc., etc., and everything went well.  I was able to reboot, no 
problems.


But then a few days later, more updates came through, but 
specifically

a new kernel was added:
(2) kernel-2.6.27.9-159.fc10.i686

Rebooting, I got the messages:
==
ata1: ACPI get timing mode failed (AE 0x300d)
Loading /lib/kdb/Keymaps/i386/qwerty/us.map


Eh?  Sure that's not "/lib/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwerty/us.map" 
(/lib/kbd NOT

/lib/kdb and no capital K)?

If what you posted is what's really being displayed, then we have
serious problems.  The correct directory is provided by kbd RPM.




[hang]

So, I never got to the point where I needed to enter
the encrypted disk password for continuance.

To be sure, I rebooted back to the original kernel (1),
and it booted just fine.  Leaving it there, I continued using
the system, but got yet another kernel update:
(3) kernel-2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686

Same problem reported in (2) above.  So I am still
stuck at using my initial kernel at (1).

Is there anything I can do or to check to understand why
I am not able to use the latest kernels?


If the system is looking for the keymap you've shown, it won't 
find it,
the console won't be set up and things will come to a screeching 
halt.

I run 64-bit kernels so I can't test it and I don't know where it's
getting that path from.  I have run all the kernels you show and they
run fine here.  None ask for that funky keymap path.

I double-checked and got that path wrong initially.
The correct path shown on boot up (but appears ONLY
with the later newer kernels) are:

/lib/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwerty/us.map

It still hangs.  The interesting thing is, as I said, I can
boot with the first kernel (1) installed but not the ones
following.  Still scratching my head...


Ok, hmmm.  It looks like the initrd images didn't get built right.  
Boot

up under the kernel that works, then as root:

# cd /boot
# mkinitrd -f -v initrd-2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686.img
2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686

(the second and third lines should be ONE line...my mailer is wrapping
them)

Then try rebooting using that -170 kernel again.  The keymaps and 
things

actually are in the initrd image as well as the main system.  See if
that does the job.

Did what you suggested and it does not change anything.  Still hangs.
I tried autorelabel for SeLinux just in case, no change.  It is 
subjective,

but could having the filesystem encrypted be a problem?


I've heard of issues regarding encrypted filesystems.  I'm pretty sure
there's a thread on it in this forum somewhere.  It may be that the
initrd didn't get built with the cryptographic stuff.  I don't think
mkinitrd is smart enough to realize it needs the crypto stuff from the
/etc/modprobe.conf or /etc/fstab and you have to force feed it that
stuff with "--with=module" on the command line.

>Did you try
to see if you can run all the kernel version under an encrypted 
filesystem?


I don't use encrypted filesystems myself, so I'm going to have to bow
out on any of that stuff.  However, when you built the initrd, I 
recommended you use the "-v" flag.  You should have seen it include the

crypto modules along with the "dm-" stuff.  If not...well, that may be
your problem.

I am now testing to see if removing any packages (one by one) has any 
effect,

a shot in the dark, but I do not know what else to do.


Don't think that's it.  It's quitting long before any other stuff is
loaded up...it's definitely having issues with the root filesystem,
and I'm willing to bet it is this crypto stuff.  Check the archives of
this list to find the thread(s) regarding it.

I think I discovered what it was.

I was looking over the grub stuff, specifically to those newly
added kernels and at the grub kernel line, I found this added to
the end of that line:

init=/sbin/bootchartd

What the heck is that!?!?

I edited this out in grub, and booted, a LO AND BEHOLD!  It worked!

Geez, what is going on?

Thanks for bearing with me!
Dan

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Re: OpenLDAP, OpenSSL, and Fedora 10 Stop Liking One Another ?

[Oscar Plameras]

Yes. and all certificate files. Of course I changed owner of newkey.pem to
ldap.ldap and chmod to 600.

On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Craig White  wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 10:21 +1100, Oscar Plameras wrote:
>> Yes, I have. This what I do to create certificates:
>>
>> #cd /etc/pki/tls
>> #./misc/CA -newca # do once the first time
>> #./misc/CA -newreq# do everytime you want another
>> #./misc/CA -sign#
>>
>> This will create a directory CA under /etc when you do #./misc/CA the
>> first time.
>>
> 
> can user 'ldap' access the file/directory?
>
> Craig
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Re: OpenLDAP, OpenSSL, and Fedora 10 Stop Liking One Another ?

[Oscar Plameras]

Yes, you're right. Whereas before the script simply checks if TLS is
configured and invokes ldaps. So, now it has to be expressly set
to 'yes' if you wish ldaps to start otherwise it will say and do nothing.

Thanks for that.

On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Nalin Dahyabhai  wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 04, 2009 at 09:39:07AM +1100, Oscar Plameras wrote:
>> 1. System1 - I had 3 test servers running OpenLDAP-2.3.30-3.fc6,
>> OpenSSL-0.9.8b-15.fc6 on Linux-2.6.22.14-72.fc6.
>> And these were perfectly running with OPENSSL configured on
>> 'slapd.conf' as follows:
>>
>> lines cut
>> #
>> #
>> TLSCACertificateFile /etc/CA/cacert.pem
>> TLSCertificateFile/etc/pki/tls/newcert.pem
>> TLSCertificateKeyFile /etc/pki/tls/newkey.pem
>> #
>> #
>> lines cut
>>
>> When I do,
>>
>> #service ldap restart, and #ps -ax  I have this
>>
>> slapd -h ldap:/// ldaps:/// -u ldap
>>
>> I can do simple unsecured or secured queries from here.
>>
>> 1. System2 - Now, I upgraded 2 test servers running
>> OpenLDAP-2.4.12-1.fc10, OpenSSL-0.9.8g-12.fc10 on
>> Linux-2.6.29-159.fc10.
>> Suddenly I can't start slapd correctly. The problem is after
>> configuring 'slapd.conf' with OPENSSL, as I did in System1 and I
>> do a
>>
>> #service ldap restart,  and #ps -ax
>>
>> I found that I only have this process running:
>> slapd -h ldap:/// -u ldap. The ldaps:/// process did not start
>> suggesting I have incorrect certificates.
>> But I can confirm that my certificates are correct with several tests.
>
> In older releases, the init script checked for TLS-related settings in
> slapd.conf and if it found some, forcibly added 'ldaps:///' to the list
> of values passed to slapd as arguments for its '-h' flag.
>
> It looks like it doesn't do that any more.  Rather, it expects that
> you'll set SLAPD_LDAPS to "yes" in /etc/sysconfig/ldap.  I'm only
> guessing as to why, but it looks like one of the benefits of changing
> the way that the init script works is that you can now disable listening
> for non-SSL connections without editing the init script.
>
> HTH,
>
> Nalin
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Re: LXDE as default in init 5

[Kam Leo]

On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Richard Shaw  wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 2:48 PM, solarflow99  wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Richard Shaw  wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:39 AM, solarflow99 
>>> wrote:
>>> > I would like to set this as the default, but using runlevel 5 just
>>> > brings up
>>> > GDM by default and I have to select lxde every time.  Anyone happen to
>>> > know
>>> > where you can can set this?  it doesnt seem realted to prefdm, I tried
>>> > that
>>> > already.
>>>
>>> If you select LXDE from GDM then it should remember that setting. I
>>> can't tell for sure if you've done that with the limited information
>>> you've provided.
>>>
>>> I recently installed F10 on a low end laptop (P2 366MHz) w/ 128MB of
>>> ram. I'm using LXDE in combination with Slim (login manager). I
>>> probably should put put it in bugzilla but I created a lxde.switchdesk
>>> file (modified from the fluxbox one) so you can use switchdesk to
>>> change to LXDE. However, I found out the hard way that if you choose
>>> your desktop in GDM, switchdesk will have no effect.
>>
>> all switchdesk does is create a file with a WM setting, so if you type
>> startx to bring up X then it works.  I mentioned that I had to select LXDE
>> every time from GDM so thats what I have been doing, in fact the whole
>> purpose of the message was to ask how to be able to stop doing that.
>
> That's got to be a configuration issue or a bug. Once you set it, it
> should stay that way. The lack of response is either because no one
> else is having the problem or the message subject doesn't catch
> anyone's interest. Might try reposting it as "GDM does not remember
> session selection" or something like that. You could try another
> desktop and see if it's remembered on restart or not which might help
> narrow down the scope of the problem.
>
> Richard
>
> Richard

As I recall in F10 the file, /etc/sysconfig/desktop, was not installed
by default. Have you checked to see if the file exists? If not, create
the file with the following contents and file a bug report:

DESKTOP="LXDE"
DISPLAYMANAGER="GNOME"

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Wifi dies about once an hour. Bug in update ?

[Linuxguy123]

My wifi dies about once an hour.  The only way I can get it working
again is to reboot.  Very irritating. 

I was on the road this weekend.  When I got to my destination I used
Start->Administration->Network Configuration to change the ESSID for
wlan0.  I saved it and restarted wlan0.  It worked fine.  I've done this
a bunch of times in the past without any problems.

I got home late last night.  This morning I edited my ESSID and
restarted wlan0.  It worked fine for an hour, then it died.  I tried all
sorts of ways to restart it, but the only way I could get it to run
again was to reboot.   I've been rebooting about once an hour ever
since.

I'm running F10, all updates, KDE, etc.  I am not running a network
manager.  

uname -a
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Wed Jan
21 02:09:37 EST 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

I downloaded a bunch of F10 updates on the weekend.  I don't think I
restarted my laptop.  Has anyone else had a problem with their wifi
quitting since installing some of the recent updates ?

How do I fix my wifi network problem ?

Thanks.

Aside: I'd love to have a network manager like what is shipped with F10
Live, but I've never been able to figure out how to get it running.  If
anyone knows, I'd like to tackle that once I get wlan0 running stable. 




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Re: C++ noshowbase ignored

[Mike -- EMAIL IGNORED]

On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:46:49 -0500, Todd Denniston wrote:

> Mike -- EMAIL IGNORED wrote, On 02/03/2009 02:47 PM:
>> In FC7, the line"
>> 
>> ...
>>cout << "a = 0x" << setfill('0') << hex << noshowbase <<
>>  setw(8) << a << dec << setfill(' ') << endl;
>> ...
>> 
>> results in:
>> 
>> a = 0x0x91a1218
>> 
>> Is there something I can do about this?
>> 
>> 
> Mr. Obvious asked, "how 'bout changing the code like so:" ...
> cout << "a = " << setfill('0') << hex << noshowbase <<
>   setw(8) << a << dec << setfill(' ') << endl;
> ...
> 
> or for more pain
> http://www.open-std.org/JTC1/sc22/wg21/docs/lwg-defects.html#183 cout <<
> resetiosflags(ios_base::showbase) 
> 
[...]

Mr. Clearly Stated replied, "the code presented is
merely a model to show the problem; the real code
with the problem is much more complex."

Mike.

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Re: fedora 10 post upgrade issues with nfs

[Bob Patterson Jr]

i have removed hosts.allow on my clients and i am getting this on my client
in syslog

Feb  3 17:18:05 localhost rpc.statd[3093]: Caught signal 15, un-registering
and exiting.


and it seems to be authenticating on the server because of this

Feb  3 17:19:35 athens mountd[7192]: authenticated mount request from
192.168.1.105:715 for /isos (/isos)

~bob

On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Paolo Galtieri  wrote:

> Yes.  The easiest solution is to remove hosts.allow and hosts.deny. Unless,
> of course, you're using them :-).  Another other option is to back out
> nfs-utils package to the released version.  You can also add all your hosts
> to the /etc/hosts file on the server.
>
> Paolo
>
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Bob Patterson Jr 
> wrote:
>
>> is anyone else experienceing issues with recent upgrade to nfs?
>>
>> I am unable to mount on my clients after the upgrade
>>
>> ~Bob
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Re: C++ noshowbase ignored

[Mike -- EMAIL IGNORED]

On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 12:10:17 -0800, Ulrich Drepper wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Mike -- EMAIL IGNORED wrote:
>> Is there something I can do about this?
> 
> Use an actually supported version of the compiler and runtime.  Later
> versions (at least F9) don't have this problem.
> 
[...]

Upgrading would be a problem for now.  Is there any
other solution?

Thanks,
Mike.

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Re: VBox Error: VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 13:38 -0700, kirk Ziegler wrote:
>  /usr/src/kernels/2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686/scripts/gcc-version.sh:
> line 25: gcc: command not found 

You appear not to have gcc (the C compiler).

poc

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Re: Wifi dies about once an hour. Bug in update ?

[Craig White]

On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 17:49 -0700, Linuxguy123 wrote:
> My wifi dies about once an hour.  The only way I can get it working
> again is to reboot.  Very irritating. 
> 
> I was on the road this weekend.  When I got to my destination I used
> Start->Administration->Network Configuration to change the ESSID for
> wlan0.  I saved it and restarted wlan0.  It worked fine.  I've done this
> a bunch of times in the past without any problems.
> 
> I got home late last night.  This morning I edited my ESSID and
> restarted wlan0.  It worked fine for an hour, then it died.  I tried all
> sorts of ways to restart it, but the only way I could get it to run
> again was to reboot.   I've been rebooting about once an hour ever
> since.
> 
> I'm running F10, all updates, KDE, etc.  I am not running a network
> manager.  
> 
> uname -a
> Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Wed Jan
> 21 02:09:37 EST 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
> 
> I downloaded a bunch of F10 updates on the weekend.  I don't think I
> restarted my laptop.  Has anyone else had a problem with their wifi
> quitting since installing some of the recent updates ?
> 
> How do I fix my wifi network problem ?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Aside: I'd love to have a network manager like what is shipped with F10
> Live, but I've never been able to figure out how to get it running.  If
> anyone knows, I'd like to tackle that once I get wlan0 running stable. 

perhaps that is your problem...your dhcp lease runs out and there's no
service to handle getting a new lease.

Craig

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Re: Wifi dies about once an hour. Bug in update ?

[Linuxguy123]

On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 18:06 -0700, Craig White wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 17:49 -0700, Linuxguy123 wrote:
> > My wifi dies about once an hour.  The only way I can get it working
> > again is to reboot.  Very irritating. 
> > 
> > I was on the road this weekend.  When I got to my destination I used
> > Start->Administration->Network Configuration to change the ESSID for
> > wlan0.  I saved it and restarted wlan0.  It worked fine.  I've done this
> > a bunch of times in the past without any problems.
> > 
> > I got home late last night.  This morning I edited my ESSID and
> > restarted wlan0.  It worked fine for an hour, then it died.  I tried all
> > sorts of ways to restart it, but the only way I could get it to run
> > again was to reboot.   I've been rebooting about once an hour ever
> > since.
> > 
> > I'm running F10, all updates, KDE, etc.  I am not running a network
> > manager.  
> > 
> > uname -a
> > Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Wed Jan
> > 21 02:09:37 EST 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
> > 
> > I downloaded a bunch of F10 updates on the weekend.  I don't think I
> > restarted my laptop.  Has anyone else had a problem with their wifi
> > quitting since installing some of the recent updates ?
> > 
> > How do I fix my wifi network problem ?
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > Aside: I'd love to have a network manager like what is shipped with F10
> > Live, but I've never been able to figure out how to get it running.  If
> > anyone knows, I'd like to tackle that once I get wlan0 running stable. 
> 
> perhaps that is your problem...your dhcp lease runs out and there's no
> service to handle getting a new lease.

Which service do I enable to get a new lease ?  Wifi networking has
worked fine prior to this ever since I installed F10. I had a similar
problem in F8 though.  


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Re: Wifi dies about once an hour. Bug in update ?

[Jeff Spaleta]

On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Linuxguy123  wrote:
> Aside: I'd love to have a network manager like what is shipped with F10
> Live, but I've never been able to figure out how to get it running.  If
> anyone knows, I'd like to tackle that once I get wlan0 running stable.


Unless you mock with the settings for your network... NetworkManager
just runs.  If you are editting connection settings by hand using the
legacy network configuration tool then you've probably inadvertently
disabled NM's ability to manage that device.  Out of the box NM should
require absolutely no configuration for dhcp based dynamic wireless
network access.  Its just a matter of selecting the wireless network
from NM's selection interface.  If you have editted system wide
network configurations that will impact NM's functionality as the
legacy configuration tool allows you to hide devices from NM.

Its seldom enough to just tell us you've installed updates. Which
updates matter. For example are you injesting external drivers from
rpmfusion or other 3rd party source. That matters a great deal in
terms of trying to reproduce the problem.

I'm not seeing this on my hardware. But that's not really saying much
because I've no idea if we have similar hardware and I have no idea if
we are both running the same software.  I have an uptodate system..but
i eat updatest-testing so I have no idea if I'm comparable to you in
terms of packages on the system. And I'm using NM.

First thing to do when troubleshooting your own hardware, is to
fallback to the older kernel. You should have at least one older
kernel available as an alternative to boot.  If they older fixes the
problem that is an indication that its a driver level problem.

-jef

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Re: Wifi dies about once an hour. Bug in update ?

[Linuxguy123]

On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 16:17 -0900, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Linuxguy123  wrote:
> > Aside: I'd love to have a network manager like what is shipped with F10
> > Live, but I've never been able to figure out how to get it running.  If
> > anyone knows, I'd like to tackle that once I get wlan0 running stable.
> 
> 
> Unless you mock with the settings for your network... NetworkManager
> just runs.  If you are editting connection settings by hand using the
> legacy network configuration tool then you've probably inadvertently
> disabled NM's ability to manage that device.  Out of the box NM should
> require absolutely no configuration for dhcp based dynamic wireless
> network access.  Its just a matter of selecting the wireless network
> from NM's selection interface. 

Exactly which application should I run to select the wireless network to
use ?  I've always wanted to do this in F10 and I've never been able to.
I wouldn't be fooling around editing things in the network configuration
tool in the first place if I had a working NM application.


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Re: Wifi dies about once an hour. Bug in update ?

[Craig White]

On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 18:36 -0700, Linuxguy123 wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 16:17 -0900, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Linuxguy123  wrote:
> > > Aside: I'd love to have a network manager like what is shipped with F10
> > > Live, but I've never been able to figure out how to get it running.  If
> > > anyone knows, I'd like to tackle that once I get wlan0 running stable.
> > 
> > 
> > Unless you mock with the settings for your network... NetworkManager
> > just runs.  If you are editting connection settings by hand using the
> > legacy network configuration tool then you've probably inadvertently
> > disabled NM's ability to manage that device.  Out of the box NM should
> > require absolutely no configuration for dhcp based dynamic wireless
> > network access.  Its just a matter of selecting the wireless network
> > from NM's selection interface. 
> 
> Exactly which application should I run to select the wireless network to
> use ?  I've always wanted to do this in F10 and I've never been able to.
> I wouldn't be fooling around editing things in the network configuration
> tool in the first place if I had a working NM application.

I use the NM-applet that's in the bottom panel on KDE. Only trouble I
ever have with it is when I suspend to disk and then I merely restart
NetworkManager service when I wake it up.

Craig

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Re: Wifi dies about once an hour. Bug in update ?

[Aldo Foot]

On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Linuxguy123  wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 16:17 -0900, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Linuxguy123  wrote:
>> > Aside: I'd love to have a network manager like what is shipped with F10
>> > Live, but I've never been able to figure out how to get it running.  If
>> > anyone knows, I'd like to tackle that once I get wlan0 running stable.
>>
>>
>> Unless you mock with the settings for your network... NetworkManager
>> just runs.  If you are editting connection settings by hand using the
>> legacy network configuration tool then you've probably inadvertently
>> disabled NM's ability to manage that device.  Out of the box NM should
>> require absolutely no configuration for dhcp based dynamic wireless
>> network access.  Its just a matter of selecting the wireless network
>> from NM's selection interface.
>
> Exactly which application should I run to select the wireless network to
> use ?  I've always wanted to do this in F10 and I've never been able to.
> I wouldn't be fooling around editing things in the network configuration
> tool in the first place if I had a working NM application.
>
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What is Network Manager?

# yum info NetworkManager
Installed Packages
Name   : NetworkManager

Description:
NetworkManager attempts to keep an active network connection available at all
times.  It is intended only for the desktop use-case, and is not intended for
usage on servers.   The point of NetworkManager is to make networking
configuration and setup as painless and automatic as possible.  If using DHCP,
NetworkManager is _intended_ to replace default routes, obtain IP addresses
from a DHCP server, and change nameservers whenever it sees fit.

Check whether the package is  installed.
# rpm -q NetworkManager
NetworkManager-0.6.4-8.el5

If not found, install it.
$ sudo yum install NetworkManager

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Re: I lost the NetworkManager Applet

[James Harrison]

I just got home. It is running nm-applet is running but no icon. I tried 
restarting NetworkManager. Still no icon

I got it back, but by a fluke. I right clicked on the panel at the top of the 
screen and "Add to panel..." I selected the "Notification area..." Icon in the 
list and the NetworkManager Icon reappeared.

James





From: Rodney Morris 
To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." 

Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 11:37:50 AM
Subject: Re: I lost the NetworkManager Applet

On 2/3/09, James Harrison  wrote:
>
> This happens by default. None of this has changed, its just the small icon
> in the task bar
>
> 
> From: iarly selbir 
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora."
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2009 11:25:21 AM
> Subject: Re: I lost the NetworkManager Applet
>
>  - start nm daemon
>
> # /etc/init.d/NetworkManager start
>
> - add to system startup
>
> # chkconfig NetworkManager on
>

Is nm-applet still running?  You can determine whether nm-applet is
running by typing "ps aux | grep nm-applet".  If that command only
returns "grep nm-applet" as the only running process, nm-applet can be
restarted by typing "nm-applet &" from the command line.

Rod

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Easiest Way to Configure Wireless Settings Manually?

[Robert L Cochran]

What is the easiest way to manually configure an ifcfg- module and
all the other wireless things I need for a laptop Intel Pro Wifi Link
5300 a/g/n card, without the help of Network Manager? Do I need an
ifcfg-wlan0 module or a module of some other name (as in ifcfg-[something]?)

I'm currently in Boston assisting  a relative who needs medical testing,
and I'd love to get wireless going on my laptop (a Dell Latitude E6400)
while doing those long hospital waiting room stays, but when I installed
Fedora 10 on this baby I forgot to turn on the wireless card hardware
switch. So Network Manager didn't configure anything. Just at the moment
I'm using a wireless bridge device and my wired port.

Thanks a lot for the help!

Bob Cochran

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Re: Firefox Running Slow in Linux

[Arthur Pemberton]

On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
 wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 16:24 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Daniel B. Thurman  wrote:
>> > Well, what do you mean by rendering?  What exactly are you 'rendering'?
>>
>> The HTML and images that are being converted to pixels.
>>
>> >  Running
>> > a java-based or some other application like a mandelbrot application or
>> > what? You
>> > might let us know exactly what you are doing?
>>
>> Just browsing the internet.
>>
>> > It is hard to tell with the little data you are giving as to determine if 
>> > by
>> > rendering you
>> > are getting `streaming data' coming from "remote" or "local" sources  and 
>> > if
>> > the
>> > data (for rendering?) coming from local/remote servers and/or services?
>>
>> Doesn't rendering simply mean creating visuals from data?
>>
>> > Just wondered,
>> > Dan
>>
>> I'm talking about scrolling through long pages and zooming in and out,
>> things Firefox on Windows handles with no effort.
>
> I'll just comment that I have no performance problems with FF on F10
> x86_64, except that it can take a while to start up and has sometimes
> been known to suck cpu (possibly the Java plugin is doing this in my
> case). This is KDE 4.1, Intel Core 2 Duo, 4GB of RAM (but it was the
> same with 2GB) and onboard Intel video. I don't use Compiz. I do use
> AdBlock, Flashblock and NoScript.

Not to over stretch this topic, but you have a Core2Duo with 4GB of
RAM, so if you were seeing performance issues with Firefox, that would
be it was _really_ slow as opposed to just slow.

Additionally, using AdBlock actually makes it faster (for me).

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Samba and network browsing

[Rahul Tidke]

Hello,
 I am using samba-3.0.24-11.fc6 for my workgroup with user security level
simple setup and samba works fine; I have two network interfaces
eth0(internal LAN) & eth1(external), the problem I face is whenever my
internet disconnects and link on eth1 goes down my samba also hangs and
windows clients are unable to access samba shares (probably they could not
find the samba server), I thought this is due to smbd and nmbd listening on
both interfaces eth0 and eth1, so I tried setting following parameters in
smb.conf:

hosts allow = 192.168.10.0/24 127.0.0.1
local master = yes
os level = 65
interfaces = eth0 lo (so that samba will not listen on eth1)
bind interfaces only =yes

but my problem still continues inspite of above settings, but if I execute
"ifdown eth1" (when internet disconnects on eth1) command samba restores its 
state immediately and now all

clients can access the shares normally.

What parameters I need to set in order to operate samba normally on
interface eth0 only and ignoring the status of eth1?
Is this a firewall issue? (I have setup nat; see below my iptables/nat conf)
Is this NAT problem?
Why samba is not respoding to clients when eth1 goes down?
Please help.

Netstat command output:

[r...@matrix ~]# netstat -tapn | grep smbd
tcp0  0 192.168.10.254:139  0.0.0.0:*
LISTEN  3199/smbd
tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:139  0.0.0.0:*
LISTEN  3199/smbd
tcp0  0 192.168.10.254:445  0.0.0.0:*
LISTEN  3199/smbd
tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:445  0.0.0.0:*
LISTEN  3199/smbd
tcp0 12 192.168.10.254:445  192.168.10.251:19464
ESTABLISHED 9517/smbd
tcp0  0 192.168.10.254:445  192.168.10.102:1046
ESTABLISHED 9580/smbd
[r...@matrix ~]# netstat -apn | grep nmbd
udp0  0 192.168.10.254:137  0.0.0.0:*
3203/nmbd
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:137 0.0.0.0:*
3203/nmbd
udp0  0 192.168.10.254:138  0.0.0.0:*
3203/nmbd
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:138 0.0.0.0:*
3203/nmbd
unix  2  [ ] DGRAM20850  3203/nmbd

Iptables configuration:


# Generated by iptables-save v1.4.1.1 on Sat Dec 27 11:26:07 2008

*nat

:PREROUTING ACCEPT [19:1945]

:POSTROUTING ACCEPT [0:0]

:OUTPUT ACCEPT [4:290]

-A PREROUTING -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 3128

-A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE

#-A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j SNAT --to-source 203.129.225.54

#-A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j SNAT --to-source 192.168.1.5

#-A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j SNAT --to-source 59.90.140.72

COMMIT

# Completed on Sat Dec 27 11:26:07 2008

# Generated by iptables-save v1.4.1.1 on Sat Dec 27 11:26:07 2008

*filter

:INPUT DROP [79:8157]

:FORWARD DROP [0:0]

:OUTPUT DROP [12:1482]

:okay - [0:0]

-A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp -m udp --sport 67:68 --dport 67:68 -j ACCEPT

-A INPUT -s 192.168.10.0/24 -i eth0 -j ACCEPT

-A INPUT -s 127.0.0.1/32 -i lo -j ACCEPT

-A INPUT -s 192.168.10.254/32 -i lo -j ACCEPT

-A INPUT -s 203.129.225.55/32 -i lo -j ACCEPT

-A INPUT -s 59.90.140.72/32 -i lo -j ACCEPT

-A INPUT -s 192.168.1.5/32 -i lo -j ACCEPT

-A INPUT -d 192.168.10.255/32 -i eth0 -j ACCEPT

-A INPUT -d 203.129.225.55/32 -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT

-A INPUT -d 59.90.140.72/32 -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT

-A INPUT -d 192.168.1.5/32 -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT

-A INPUT -i eth1 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 21 -j okay

-A INPUT -i eth1 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 20 -j okay

-A INPUT -i eth1 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -j okay

-A INPUT -i eth1 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j okay

-A INPUT -p UDP -i eth0 --destination-port 53 -j ACCEPT

-A INPUT -p UDP -i eth1 --destination-port 53 -j ACCEPT

-A INPUT -i eth1 -p icmp -m icmp --icmp-type 8 -j ACCEPT

-A INPUT -i eth1 -p icmp -m icmp --icmp-type 11 -j ACCEPT

-A FORWARD -i eth0 -j ACCEPT

-A FORWARD -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT

-A OUTPUT -s 127.0.0.1/32 -j ACCEPT

-A OUTPUT -s 192.168.10.254/32 -j ACCEPT

-A OUTPUT -s 203.129.225.55/32 -j ACCEPT

-A OUTPUT -s 59.90.140.72/32 -j ACCEPT

-A OUTPUT -s 192.168.1.5/32 -j ACCEPT

-A okay -p tcp -m tcp --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -j ACCEPT

-A okay -p tcp -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT

-A okay -p tcp -j DROP

COMMIT

# Completed on Sat Dec 27 11:26:07 2008

# Generated by webmin

*mangle

:FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0]

:INPUT ACCEPT [0:0]

:OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0]

:PREROUTING ACCEPT [0:0]

:POSTROUTING ACCEPT [0:0]

COMMIT

# Completed


Regards,

Rahul. 


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kernel-firmware rpm

[paul s]

hi -

i just built a custom 2.6.27 kernel and am missing the kernel-firmware 
rpm to satisfy one of the dependences.


how do you build the kernel-firmware rpm?

cheers
paul

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Re: Wifi dies about once an hour. Bug in update ?

[Frank Cox]

On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:36:02 -0700
Linuxguy123 wrote:

> Exactly which application should I run to select the wireless network to
> use ?  I've always wanted to do this in F10 and I've never been able to.
> I wouldn't be fooling around editing things in the network configuration
> tool in the first place if I had a working NM application.

I have a Network Manager icon in the notification area on my Gnome toolbar.
When there is no connection it shows as an ethernet plug with a line through it.

If I left-click on that icon, I get a list of available wireless networks that
the computer can see at that moment. I click on the one that I want to connect
to, the little balls spin for a second and then it tells me that I now have a
network connection. The icon turns into a graph showing the signal strength.

If I want to change to a different wireless access point I just left-click on
the icon again and select it off of the list.

If I plug a wired ethernet cable into the computer, it automatically spins the
little balls for a second and then tells me that I am now online with a wired
connection.

That's all that there is to it.

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Re: Website Login Missing

[g]

Virtual Guy wrote:
> On the website woot.com (domain allowed in NoScripts) the login link 
> does not appear on the page. In IE 7, it does. Is the problem with 
> Firefox 3, or with the site?

using:

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.5) Gecko/2008121700
 Red Hat/3.0.5-1.el5_2 Firefox/3.0.5
w/
NoScript 1.9

to see login prompt, i have to enable 'allow all this page'.

using just 'allow scripts', or woot.com in 'whitepages', does not show
login prompt.

problem is in page using googleapis.com, not a java problem.


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Re: Kalarm autostart.

[Erik P. Olsen]

On 04/02/09 00:43, Frank Cox wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 00:08:12 +0100
> Erik P. Olsen wrote:
> 
> But how can I autostart kalarm?
> 
>>> As I recall, all I did was load kalarm, then save my session.  After that, 
>>> it
>>> just worked.
>> I've done that but apparently it doesn't work on my system.
> 
> I just did a bit of digging, and found this:
> 
> [frank...@mutt ~]$ ls .config/autostart
> gdesklets.desktop  kalarm-2.desktop  kalarm.desktop
> [frank...@mutt ~]$ cat .config/autostart/kalarm-2.desktop 
> 
> [Desktop Entry]
> Type=Application
> Name=kalarm
> Exec=kalarm
> Icon=system-run
> Comment=
> [frank...@mutt ~]$ cat .config/autostart/kalarm.desktop 
> [Desktop Entry]
> Name=No name
> Encoding=UTF-8
> Version=1.0
> Name[en_US]=Kalarm
> Exec=/usr/bin/kalarm
> X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=true

Interesting. I don't have .config/autostart/kalarm-2.desktop. However, I have:

[e...@epohost ~]$ cat .config/autostart/kalarm.desktop

[Desktop Entry]
Type=Application
Name=KAlarm
Exec=kalarm --tray
Icon=system-run
Comment=
Name[en_GB]=KAlarm
Comment[en_GB]=
X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=true

So it ought to be correct. Anyway I tend to believe that the reason why kalarm
isn't autostarted is that error message I see when I start it manually.

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Re: Kalarm autostart.

[Frank Cox]

On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 07:52:06 +0100
Erik P. Olsen wrote:

> Interesting. I don't have .config/autostart/kalarm-2.desktop.

Based on the file dates, I suspect that kalarm2-desktop is the newest (F10)
version.

Try putting kalarm-2.desktop in the appropriate directory and see what happens
when you log in after that.

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