Re: Morph software

[Paul-Erik Törrönen]

On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 16:02 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:
>  I'm looking for some morphing software, to take two images, and
> generate some  "intermediate" images to show the effect of a smooth
> transition from one to the other.

One such program is the convert-command, which is part of the
ImageMagick-package.

It can do primitive shape morphing, for more information go here:

http://www.imagemagick.org/discourse-server/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=11263

I've used convert only to do fade-morph frames between images taken of
the same view, which then are fed to mencoder to produce a video.

I can publish the shell-script which I created to accomplish this if
you're interested?

Poltsi

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Re: How to set up a DNS server(at Home)

[Michael Rohan]

Hi,

This is for named.conf, not resolv.conf

Take care,
Michael.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:14 PM,  wrote:

> Michael wrote:
>
> [
> Just a minor additional suggestion: since this is for a home network, you
> probably have DNS servers supplied by your ISP. You should configure your
> named server as a forwarder rather than doing your own full resolution,
> e.g., add
>
>   forward only;
>   forwarders {
>   68.87.76.178;
>   68.87.78.130;
>   };
>
> to your named.conf options section. The values above are for Comcast in San
> Jose, you'll need to change them!]
>
> After cat /etc/resolve.conf, got this:
>
> nameserver 203.88.111.18
> nameserver 4.2.2.2
>
> Should I replace
>
> 68.87.76.178;
> 68.87.78.130;
>
> with the values:
>
> 203.88.111.18;
>
> 4..2.2.2;
>
> And what does the forwarder do?
>
> Thanks for reply.
>
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Re: How to set up a DNS server(at Home)

[gmspro]

Michael wrote:[
Just a minor additional suggestion: since this is for a home network, you
probably have DNS servers supplied by your ISP.  You should configure your
named server as a forwarder rather than doing your own full resolution,
e.g., add

    forward only;
    forwarders {
    68.87.76.178;
    68.87.78.130;
    };

to your named.conf options section.  The values above are for Comcast in San
Jose, you'll need to change them!]
After cat /etc/resolve.conf, got this:nameserver 203.88.111.18
nameserver 4.2.2.2

Should I replace 
68.87.76.178;
68.87.78.130;with the values:203.88.111.18;4.2.2.2;And what does the forwarder 
do?Thanks
 for reply.


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Re: OT - brain is melting...how is this temperature ?

[David Timms]

David Timms wrote:
Hi, just noticed the temperature in Melbourne, Vic, Australia (where I 
am) has got to (celsius scale!) :

http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDV60900.shtml

And a screengrab for archival purposes.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~timmsy/weather/melbourne.weather.2009-02-07.15-40.png

ps: 45.9 degrees celsius = 114.6 degrees fahrenheit.
pps: currently 38.5 inside.

Cheers, DaveT.

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Re: OT - brain is melting...how is this temperature

[Ed Greshko]

David Timms wrote:
> Hi, just noticed the temperature in Melbourne, Vic, Australia (where I
> am) has got to (celsius scale!) :
> http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDV60900.shtml
>
> I think we made a Melbourne record, cheers, DaveT.
>
Yeah...  But its at 5% relative humidity...it is a "dry" heat.  :-)

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Re: How to set up a DNS server(at Home)

[Michael Rohan]

Hi,

Just a minor additional suggestion: since this is for a home network, you
probably have DNS servers supplied by your ISP.  You should configure your
named server as a forwarder rather than doing your own full resolution,
e.g., add

forward only;
forwarders {
68.87.76.178;
68.87.78.130;
};

to your named.conf options section.  The values above are for Comcast in San
Jose, you'll need to change them!

Take care,
Michael.

On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Seann Clark wrote:

> Ok, with setting up the domain server, the key thing to consider, is this
> going be able to be queried from the internet? If so, then yes you need to
> register a domain, to avoid confusion and issues. If this is just going to
> be isolated to your local network, and not accessible outside of your
> network, you won't have to register a domain.
>
>
> I hope that clarifies it a little bit for you
>
>
>
> GMS S wrote:
>
>> Is it necessary to register a domain name for setting up a dns server?
>> Though reading ,it is not clear to me.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> --- On *Wed, 1/28/09, Seann Clark //* wrote:
>>
>>
>>From: Seann Clark 
>>Subject: Re: How to set up a DNS server(at Home)
>>To: gms...@yahoo.com, "Community assistance, encouragement, and
>>advice for using Fedora." 
>>Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 10:35 PM
>>
>>gms...@yahoo.com  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Typing this "rpm -q bind" got this:
>>> bind-9.5.1-0.8.b2.fc10.i386
>>>
>>> In "named.conf file" I got this:
>>>
>>> //
>>> // named.conf
>>> //
>>> // Provided by Red Hat bind package to configure the ISC BIND
>>named(8) DNS
>>> // server as a caching only nameserver (as a localhost DNS
>>resolver only).
>>> //
>>> // See /usr/share/doc/bind*/sample/ for example named
>>configuration files.
>>> //
>>>
>>> options {
>>> listen-on port 53 { 127.0.0.1; };
>>> listen-on-v6 port 53 { ::1; };
>>> directory "/var/named";
>>> dump-file "/var/named/data/cache_dump.db";
>>> statistics-file "/var/named/data/named_stats.txt";
>>> memstatistics-file "/var/named/data/named_mem_stats.txt";
>>> allow-query { localhost; };
>>> recursion yes;
>>> };
>>>
>>> logging {
>>> channel default_debug {
>>> file "data/named.run";
>>> severity dynamic;
>>> };
>>> };
>>>
>>> zone "." IN {
>>> type hint;
>>> file "named.ca";
>>> };
>>>
>>> include "/etc/named.rfc1912.zones";
>>>
>>> And in "named.rfc1912.zones"
>>>
>>> // named.rfc1912.zones:
>>> //
>>> // Provided by Red Hat caching-nameserver package
>>> //
>>> // ISC BIND named zone configuration for zones recommended by
>>> // RFC 1912 section 4.1 : localhost TLDs and address zones
>>> // and
>>
>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-dnsop-default-local-zones-02.txt
>>> // (c)2007 R W Franks
>>> //
>>> // See /usr/share/doc/bind*/sample/ for example named
>>configuration files.
>>> //
>>>
>>> zone "localhost.localdomain" IN {
>>> type master;
>>> file "named.localhost";
>>> allow-update { none; };
>>> };
>>>
>>> zone "localhost" IN {
>>> type master;
>>> file "named.localhost";
>>> allow-update { none; };
>>> };
>>>
>>> zone
>>
>>  "1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.ip6.arpa"
>>IN {
>>> type master;
>>> file "named.loopback";
>>> allow-update { none; };
>>> };
>>>
>>> zone "1.0.0.127.in-addr.arpa" IN {
>>> type master;
>>> file "named.loopback";
>>> allow-update { none; };
>>> };
>>>
>>> zone "0.in-addr.arpa" IN {
>>> type master;
>>> file "named.empty";
>>> allow-update { none; };
>>> };
>>>
>>> Can anyone explain the file contents in detail and about named.ca?
>>> And what I have to do in step by step to set up a dns server ?
>>>
>>> PC configuration(Home):
>>> Processor:Intel Pentium D 2.66GHz
>>> Ram:1GB
>>> Hard Disk:80GB
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>I hate to plug books, but this may be the easiest way to get an
>>good explanation to a home user of the components on a DNS server.
>>Check out http://my.safaribooksonline.com/0596100574 Which is the
>>DNS BIND book, which is a very valuable asset when learning DNS.
>>
>>
>>In a quick nutshell, the named.ca file contains the IP addresses
>>and names of the 'root' DNS servers in the world. These are the
>>'dot' in your .com/.net etc (actually it is the dot AFTER the .com
>>but that is a little complex to get into) That file helps you find
>>the DNS server of the domain you are after, starting at the root,
>>or 

OT - brain is melting...how is this temperature

[David Timms]

Hi, just noticed the temperature in Melbourne, Vic, Australia (where I 
am) has got to (celsius scale!) :

http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDV60900.shtml

I think we made a Melbourne record, cheers, DaveT.

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Re: f11 alpha x86_64 live KDE image too large to fit on CD?

[Carroll Grigsby]

On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:02:51 -0500
Carroll Grigsby  wrote:

> On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 13:29:11 -0500 (EST)
> "Robert P. J. Day" wrote:
> 
> > 
> >   i downloaded the set of F11 alpha live images and all burned to CD
> > properly except for the one above, which k3b rejected as being too
> > large to fit on a CD:
> > 
> > 667088896 2009-02-06 13:04 F11-Alpha-i686-Live.iso
> > 731385856 2009-02-06 13:07 F11-Alpha-i686-Live-KDE.iso
> > 671713280 2009-02-06 13:06 F11-Alpha-x86_64-Live.iso
> > 737335296 2009-02-06 13:06 F11-Alpha-x86_64-Live-KDE.iso
> > 
> >   that has to be awfully close to the maximum capacity.  is that
> > really too large?  and why put out an image that just ever so
> > slightly goes over the limit?  or am i misreading something?
> > 
> > rday
> > --
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> Brasero gave me the same warning, but it volunteered to try an
> overburn. OK, sez I, let's give it a shot. While the resultant CD
> passed both Brasero's verification procedure and Fedora's on-disk
> verification, it is the slowest live CD I've ever used -- it took 9
> minutes to do the verification and then boot to the desktop. Even
> then, it was way too slow -- as in 14 seconds to open Konsole. The
> logs were loaded with avc denials; nothing about hardware problems.
> Odd, since F10 runs quite nicely on this box. I also downloaded the
> DVD and I'll install it on a spare partition this weekend.
> 
> -- cmg
> 
Update: I downloaded the Gnome F11 live CD and gave it a try. I had
none of the problems noted above.

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Re: Multiple Workspace support in NVIDIA driver...

[Michael Comperchio]

Endy wrote:

Michael Comperchio wrote:
I realize now, after booting to windows for the first time in a 
while, that the support for multiple workspace/desktop backgrounds 
seems to come from the NVIDIA driver (at least on windows). So my 
question is should I get the driver from the NVIDIA website and let 
it install itself and rebuild a kernal? (I think that's what it's 
going to want to do...) I really miss that particular feature..

Michael

Whereas in windows you need an nvidia driver in order to use multiple 
workspaces, it's been a fundamental part of kde and gnome for years. 
So don't worry :)


hmmm... I may not quite have been clear... I'm getting older and, 
methinks, a little absentminded. I'd like to have different backgrounds 
on the different workspaces. I find it helpful to remember where I am 
and what I'm doing there. The last time I tried LINUX this was a 
possibility, but with all the improvements these days that ability seems 
to have gone away.


Michael

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Re: Multiple Workspace support in NVIDIA driver...

[Endy]

Michael Comperchio wrote:
I realize now, after booting to windows for the first time in a while, 
that the support for multiple workspace/desktop backgrounds seems to 
come from the NVIDIA driver (at least on windows). So my question is 
should I get the driver from the NVIDIA website and let it install 
itself and rebuild a kernal? (I think that's what it's going to want 
to do...) I really miss that particular feature..

Michael

Whereas in windows you need an nvidia driver in order to use multiple 
workspaces, it's been a fundamental part of kde and gnome for years. So 
don't worry :)


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Re: Openswan: Works, but...

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

Roger Grosswiler wrote:
>> Dumb question - are you monitoring just the traffic across the
>> "host-to-host" link, or are you also getting the local network traffic?
>>
>> Mikkel
>> --
>>
> 
> Hi Mikkel,
> 
> i do on the client-machine a "tcpdump -i eth1" - which is the only connected 
> card
> (wireless). This shows, that connecting to my ipsec-enabled server only, 
> traffic
> is in ESP, but surfing around doesn't. Default Gateway is the
ipsed-enabled server.
> 
> Roger
> 
This is definitely strange. I am going to have to think about this
some more. It does not make sense...

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Re: samba, ldap and syncing authentication

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> I have a Samba server acting as a PDC with Fedora Directory Server
> running as the LDAP server, which holds all the users and passwords of
> the domain. Everything is properly configured and running great.
> Changing passwords from within a Windows machine changes both NT and
> UNIX passwords.
> 
> However, I can't seem to find out how to sync NT and UNIX passwords from
> a Linux client. I can set my Linux client to use LDAP auth, but it only
> changes the UNIX password. I occasionally login to a Windows VM and
> would like to use /one/ set of username and password credentials. I
> /cannot/ have two passwords (please, don't ask why). Right now I'm
> having to manually sync NT and UNIX passwords since my Linux client is
> my main machine.
> 
You are not going to find a way to easily sync the two password
lists for existing passwords. You would have to crack the passwords
in one list, and use that to change the passwords in the other list.
(It is probably easier to crack the NT passwords...)

> Yes, I know about smbldap-tools and that's what I have the PDC using,
> but I'm looking for a solution that uses the system "passwd" command to
> change passwords. If there is no other way, fine, just tell me and I'll
> use smbldap-tools on my Linux client.
> 
Take a look at using PAM for this. You will have to do some
searching, but there is a module you can add to /etc/pam.d/passwd so
that it will change the Samba password at the same time.
> 
> P.S. The Samba programmer who thought it would be awesome to have
> separate password keeping should be shot.
> 
It was not a Samba programmer. The only way to use the same password
database would be to use clear text passwords with Samba. The
problem is that Windows and Linux use two different password hashes,
so it does no good to compare the encrypted password that Windows
sends to the encrypted password in /etc/shadow. Both are "one way"
hashes, so you can not easily get the password from the hash of the
password.

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Re: REMINDER: Classroom sessions this weekend!

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:40:51 -0800 (PST)
cromworshipper-fedorast...@yahoo.com wrote:

...snip...

> $ date --date='Feb  8 1:30:00 UTC 2009'
> Sat Feb  7 17:30:00 PST 2009
> 
> So, on the west coast of the US this class will start on Saturday at
> 5:30PM.  Do I have that right?

Yes, thats exactly right. 

kevin


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Re: installing perl modules on F10

[Aldo Foot]

On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Norman Gaywood  wrote:
> Hi list,
>
> So whats the recommended way of installing perl modules in Fedora 10?

This is not the "recommended" way, it's just another way.

If perl is already install in your system and using cpan, then do
$ sudo perl -MCPAN -e 'install Bundle::CPAN'
The Bundle::CPAN is just an example. Any module can be installed that way.

You can use yumex to install CPAN.pm

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Multiple Workspace support in NVIDIA driver...

[Michael Comperchio]

I realize now, after booting to windows for the first time in a while, 
that the support for multiple workspace/desktop backgrounds seems to 
come from the NVIDIA driver (at least on windows). So my question is 
should I get the driver from the NVIDIA website and let it install 
itself and rebuild a kernal? (I think that's what it's going to want to 
do...) I really miss that particular feature..

Michael

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Re: installing perl modules on F10

[L]

On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 4:02 AM, Dave Cross  wrote:
> 2009/2/6 Norman Gaywood :
>> Hi list,
>>
>> So whats the recommended way of installing perl modules in Fedora 10?
>
> rpm and/or yum
>
>> What we have been doing in the past is to install a perl-* rpm via yum
>> if one is available for the module we want.
>>
>> If the module is not available via rpm, we use "perl -MCPAN -e shell" to
>> install modules.
>
> I really don't recommend that. Mixing rpm-installed modules and
> cpan-installed modules is very likely to lead to unhappiness.
>
> You may find my "Perl in RPM-Land" presentation interesting.
>
>  http://www.slideshare.net/davorg/perl-in-rpmland-presentation
>
> Cheers,
>

I use cpan2rpm, you install cpan2rpm by

yum install capan2rpm


then for example:

cpan2rpm -i Statistics::Distribution

or

cpan2rpm --no-sign  -i Statistics::Regression

I changed "Pod::Text" in  /usr/bin/cpan2rpm to "Pod::Parser"


It is very handy

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Re: samba, ldap and syncing authentication

[Craig White]

On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 16:38 -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> I have a Samba server acting as a PDC with Fedora Directory Server 
> running as the LDAP server, which holds all the users and passwords of 
> the domain. Everything is properly configured and running great. 
> Changing passwords from within a Windows machine changes both NT and 
> UNIX passwords.
> 
> However, I can't seem to find out how to sync NT and UNIX passwords from 
> a Linux client. I can set my Linux client to use LDAP auth, but it only 
> changes the UNIX password. I occasionally login to a Windows VM and 
> would like to use /one/ set of username and password credentials. I 
> /cannot/ have two passwords (please, don't ask why). Right now I'm 
> having to manually sync NT and UNIX passwords since my Linux client is 
> my main machine.
> 
> Yes, I know about smbldap-tools and that's what I have the PDC using, 
> but I'm looking for a solution that uses the system "passwd" command to 
> change passwords. If there is no other way, fine, just tell me and I'll 
> use smbldap-tools on my Linux client.
> 
> 
> P.S. The Samba programmer who thought it would be awesome to have 
> separate password keeping should be shot.

why is it necessary for you to conclude with a statement that
demonstrates your ignorance as if it somehow insults someone other than
yourself?

Samba schema is based on methodologies that Microsoft employs which are
not compatible with Posix attributes. Therefore, you get sambaNTPassword
and sambaLMPassword attributes that are Microsoft compatible hashed
passwords but the userPassword (Posix) could be a variety of different
encryption schemes depending upon your implementation but none of them
being compatible with the simple hash Microsoft uses.

Yes, samba has an option to sync unix passwords so that a Windows client
can change a password and it will change all 3 above attributes when
configured properly and no, I don't know of a configuration switch that
will do it the opposite way, where you change userPassword and it
simultaneously changes the other samba attributes.

I use horde/imp/etc. and there is a module called password that allows
users to change their passwords. There probably are other programs that
can do much the same. You can probably roll your own program to do that
as well.

In the end though...samba performs all of its functions as intended and
the problem isn't samba at all, it's the passwd command itself because
it is entirely oblivious to the concept that another password
methodology exists...perhaps you should be shooting a Unix/Linux
programmer or two...

Craig

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Re: REMINDER: Classroom sessions this weekend!

[cromworshipper-fedorastuff]

On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 21:43 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> Just a reminder to everyone... we will be holding some more IRC
> classroom sessions this Saturday (2009-02-07).
> 
> See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom for more information. 
> 
> We have some good classes lined up this time: 
> 
> 1:30 UTC Introduction to Fedora Classroom and Sessions
> 1:45 UTC Using Yum - Tricks and tips - Kevin Fenzi
> 3:00 UTC Understanding RPM - The engine behind yum - Clint Savage
> 4:15 UTC Fedora 11 Features - Jon Stanley
> 5:30 UTC Fedora i18n - Jens Petersen
> 6:30 UTC Fedora Classroom Wrap-up Session 


Have another look.  I think they just updated the page to say February 8.  

Here's what I did to localise the time to me.  At the bash prompt:

$ date -u
Fri Feb  6 22:31:49 UTC 2009

Then I copied that date string, pasted it back at the prompt but changed it (so 
that I don't have to memorise the format of the date string):

$ date --date='Feb  8 1:30:00 UTC 2009'
Sat Feb  7 17:30:00 PST 2009

So, on the west coast of the US this class will start on Saturday at 5:30PM.  
Do I have that right?
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samba, ldap and syncing authentication

[Michael Cronenworth]

I have a Samba server acting as a PDC with Fedora Directory Server 
running as the LDAP server, which holds all the users and passwords of 
the domain. Everything is properly configured and running great. 
Changing passwords from within a Windows machine changes both NT and 
UNIX passwords.


However, I can't seem to find out how to sync NT and UNIX passwords from 
a Linux client. I can set my Linux client to use LDAP auth, but it only 
changes the UNIX password. I occasionally login to a Windows VM and 
would like to use /one/ set of username and password credentials. I 
/cannot/ have two passwords (please, don't ask why). Right now I'm 
having to manually sync NT and UNIX passwords since my Linux client is 
my main machine.


Yes, I know about smbldap-tools and that's what I have the PDC using, 
but I'm looking for a solution that uses the system "passwd" command to 
change passwords. If there is no other way, fine, just tell me and I'll 
use smbldap-tools on my Linux client.



P.S. The Samba programmer who thought it would be awesome to have 
separate password keeping should be shot.


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Re: XFCE depends on GNOME, why?

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 01:00:02 +0100
Kevin Kofler  wrote:

> Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > A group in Fedora includes optional dependencies and the Xfce group
> > includes things like GDM and NetworkManager-gnome which will pull in
> > other dependencies.
> 
> I found at least one of the offenders: xfce4-xfapplet-plugin Requires:
> gnome-panel which Requires: pretty much all of GNOME. (And it has to
> because it's a wrapper which allows using GNOME applets in XFCE.)

Yep. Perhaps we should drop this from the Xfce comps group. 
:( 

> In F9 GA, there was also a Requires: gnome-panel in NM-gnome, but
> that one got fixed in F9 updates and F10 (which also helped KDE).
> 
> But none of these show up in the yum groupinstall output, so there
> must be another offender.

gdm is a big one. It now basically requires a gnome desktop to work. 
Perhaps we should look at pulling in kdm for Xfce. ;) 

> But indeed, not all the gnome-* packages are really GNOME, some are
> libs which are used by a lot of stuff, e.g. gnome-keyring. Packages
> like gnome-desktop, gnome-panel, control-center etc. are GNOME
> itself, it's when you're dragging these in that you have a problem.

Yep. 

> Kevin Kofler

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Date Typo: Re: REMINDER: Classroom sessions this weekend!

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 21:43:08 -0700
Kevin Fenzi  wrote:

> Just a reminder to everyone... we will be holding some more IRC
> classroom sessions this Saturday (2009-02-07).

Sadly, I typoed/messed this up in the announcement. 

The Classes this weekend will be on Sunday (2009-02-08). 

Sorry for any problems this causes anyone. 

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> We have some good classes lined up this time: 
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> 1:30 UTC  Introduction to Fedora Classroom and Sessions
> 1:45 UTC  Using Yum - Tricks and tips - Kevin Fenzi
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> 5:30 UTC  Fedora i18n - Jens Petersen
> 6:30 UTC  Fedora Classroom Wrap-up Session 
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> As always, we are looking for folks to teach upcoming sessions. 
> You don't have to be an expert, just willing to teach about something
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Re: REMINDER: Classroom sessions this weekend!

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 15:34:12 -0600
Aaron Konstam  wrote:

> On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 21:43 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > Just a reminder to everyone... we will be holding some more IRC
> > classroom sessions this Saturday (2009-02-07).
> > 
> > See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom for more information. 
> > 
> > We have some good classes lined up this time: 
> > 
> > 1:30 UTCIntroduction to Fedora Classroom and Sessions
> > 1:45 UTCUsing Yum - Tricks and tips - Kevin Fenzi
> > 3:00 UTCUnderstanding RPM - The engine behind yum - Clint
> > Savage 4:15 UTC Fedora 11 Features - Jon Stanley
> > 5:30 UTCFedora i18n - Jens Petersen
> > 6:30 UTCFedora Classroom Wrap-up Session 
> > 
> > As always, we are looking for folks to teach upcoming sessions. 
> > You don't have to be an expert, just willing to teach about
> > something Fedora related that you know. Have you figure out some
> > cool application recently? Discovered how something worked? Share
> > with the Fedora community and teach a class on it!
> > 
> I need a refresher. That is the algorithm to convert UTC to Central
> Time for example?

From the command line you can use 'date -u' and it will show your
current time in UTC. 

You can also do: 

date --date='Sat Feb 07 01:30:00 UTC 2009'

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Re: REMINDER: Classroom sessions this weekend!

[Aaron Konstam]

On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 21:43 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> Just a reminder to everyone... we will be holding some more IRC
> classroom sessions this Saturday (2009-02-07).
> 
> See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom for more information. 
> 
> We have some good classes lined up this time: 
> 
> 1:30 UTC  Introduction to Fedora Classroom and Sessions
> 1:45 UTC  Using Yum - Tricks and tips - Kevin Fenzi
> 3:00 UTC  Understanding RPM - The engine behind yum - Clint Savage
> 4:15 UTC  Fedora 11 Features - Jon Stanley
> 5:30 UTC  Fedora i18n - Jens Petersen
> 6:30 UTC  Fedora Classroom Wrap-up Session 
> 
> As always, we are looking for folks to teach upcoming sessions. 
> You don't have to be an expert, just willing to teach about something
> Fedora related that you know. Have you figure out some cool application
> recently? Discovered how something worked? Share with the Fedora
> community and teach a class on it!
> 
I need a refresher. That is the algorithm to convert UTC to Central Time
for example?
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Re: talk about your gEDA/pcb (Robin Laing)

[g]

Rick Walker wrote:
> Dan,

g wrote:

> i looked for dan's post but unable to find.

just found it. chitlesh goorah thread, broken by laing.


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Re: automatic updates on unattended machines

[Paolo Galtieri]

You can set

do_update = yes

in

/etc/yum/yum-updatesd.conf

and run

yum-updatesd

Paolo

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:54 AM, Neal Becker  wrote:

> I want automatic updates on unattended machines (F10).  What do I need to
> do
> here?
>
> I don't think PackageKit handles this (doesn't seem to work).
>
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Re: talk about your gEDA/pcb (Robin Laing)

[g]

Rick Walker wrote:
> Dan,
>>> My basic problem is: where do I start?  I installed this with the
>>> hopes of testing out my version of a X10 like circuit (active and


> I agree that the Geda suite is not very well integrated and hard to

> I've done about 10 printed circuit boards with this GPL'd tool (some 2

hi,

i looked for dan's post but unable to find.

have you all looked at

 https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-electronic-lab-list

it is a good list like this, but leans more towards circuit design.
or has it been moved to this list?

fel, fedora-electronic-lab, can be can be used in plain fedora.
something i will be doing after i can get f10 stable.

a couple eda sites;
 http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/
 http://elettrolinux.com/
 http://geda.seul.org/

article;
 http://www.edn.com/blog/92692/post/1290038929.html

later.

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Re: F10 64-bit - Wired Ethernet Problems with DNS

[McGuffey, David C.]

On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 00:50:47 -0500, Rick Bilonick wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 16:39 -0800, Aldo Foot wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Rick Bilonick  wrote:
> > > I installed F10 64-bit on a Dell quad computer without any problems.
> > > (The computer had been running F5.) I did a fresh install on a new
> hard
> > > drive. eth0 worked fine under F5. I can get a connection using ssh and
> > > IP addresses but I cannot get DNS to work, even though I'm using the
> > > same DNS addresses (which I can ping). When I use the gui and put in
> the
> > > netmask (255.255.255.0), the gui constantly overwrites it. To get any
> > > connection, I have to go into the eth0 config file and set the
> netmask.
> > > (The gui always replaces the netmask IP with either the computer's IP
> or
> > > gateway IP - don't remember which.) I can't get this working so I can
> do
> > > an update.
> > >
> > > Any idea on what is going wrong?
> > >
> >
> > WARNING: this action overwrites /etc/resolv.conf.
> >
> > In the ifcfg-eth0 put a line with the DNS info
> >
> > DNS1=...
> >
> > Then do 'service network restart' --this will put the DNS info into
> > the /etc/resolv.conf. Works form me in F10.
> > As an aside... I'm not running running NetworkManager.
> >
> Thanks. I found out earlier today that the network daemon was not
> enabled. Enabling it allowed DNS to work. I'm updating the F10 install
> and hopefully that will fix the bug in the network gui.
> 
Glad you got it to work.  I gave up on mine and I’m in the process of reloading 
F10 from distro, doing an update, and applying the guidance I’ve seen come out 
in the last few days.

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Morph software

[Bill Davidsen]

I'm looking for some morphing software, to take two images, and generate some 
"intermediate" images to show the effect of a smooth transition from one to the 
other.


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Re: automatic updates on unattended machines

[Bill Davidsen]

Neal Becker wrote:
I want automatic updates on unattended machines (F10).  What do I need to do 
here?


I don't think PackageKit handles this (doesn't seem to work).


You can just put "yum upgrade" in cron if you dare, I personally like to wait 
see if this list or BZ report problems. Only urgent bug fixes go in fast.


Note: some upgrades require a reboot, I don't know how you tell doing it this 
way, and if you reboot every time and you hit a fails to boot the machine is dead.


You may want to consider remote administration as an alternative, this is 
something I might do on RHEL but not on Fedora.


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Re: Firefox Running Slow in Linux

[Tom Horsley]

On Fri, 06 Feb 2009 13:15:04 -0700
Linuxguy123 wrote:

> Yesterday I was doing some online buying/investigating whereby I had 8+
> tabs open with a bunch of product images on each tab page.   Firefox
> outright stalled if I opened one too many.  It would become totally
> unresponsive for 20 to 60 seconds at times.

Yea, all my scrolling problems seem to be associated with multiple
tabs, especially if some tab has flash/java nonsense going on,
it will freeze up the whole UI for seconds at a time.

Why FF is working so hard to update dynamic contents on tabs that
aren't even visible is perhaps a question that ought to be asked :-).

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Re: talk about your gEDA/pcb (Robin Laing)

[Rick Walker]

Dan,

> > My basic problem is: where do I start?  I installed this with the
> > hopes of testing out my version of a X10 like circuit (active and
> > discrete components), and yet I look at the "Circuit" menu and I get
> > flabergasted - because I was not sure what to do. 

I agree that the Geda suite is not very well integrated and hard to
break into.  However, I have used SPICE at work for decades and found
the Ngspice simulator fairly easy to use.  I'm developing my own
waveform viewer which allows arbitrary math to be performed on the
simulation waveforms:

http://www.omnisterra.com/walker/linux/post/intro.htm

For PCB layout (I'm also doing some X10 stuff!) I've been very
happy with Kicad:

http://kicad.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

I've done about 10 printed circuit boards with this GPL'd tool (some 2
layer, some 4 layer) with no problems.  It includes a schematic capture
tool, a footprint editor, and a PCB layout tool.  The layout can be
design rule checked and compared with the schematic.  Output is standard
Gerber.  You can even get a 3d view of the finished board. 

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Re: problems with yum and fastestmirror plugin

[Kevin J. Cummings]

Martín Marqués wrote:

2009/2/6 Kevin J. Cummings :

Martín Marqués wrote:

Is anybody else having hanging problems when trying to update F9? I
found out that disabling fastestmirror plugin makes updates work again
(had to push up debugging with -d 10).


I just updated this morning, and fastest-mirror was enabled and I had no
problems.


Still with the same problem. :-(

Good thing is that disabling the plugin I can get the updates.

BTW, I remember puplet working this morning, but later, when I tried
to update with yum from the command line I started experiencing these
problems.


You must have some problem that fastest-mirror brings to the surface. 
Can you send your output from the failures?


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Re: installing Fedora 10 from USB Disk On Key

[Mike Cloaked]

Mike Cloaked wrote:
> 
> 
> On certain netbooks the advertised method of making a Live usbkey may not
> work - eg in my Samsung NC-10 that did not work when I first got it - and
> it does not have a DVD drive at all!  So I ended up making a live usbkey
> using Unetbootin (google for it), and that worked fine.
> 
> 

If you do want to use Unetbootin the basic method I used for the Samsung
NC-10 was:
since I only had XP running on the system, as purchased, I used UNetbootin
running in XP to create a bootable
usbkey containing PartedMagic 3.4 since I wanted to partition the drive
before installing Fedora on it for added safety in case the install went
wrong.
http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNetbootin

The PartedMagic iso is available from http://partedmagic.com/

So booting PartedMagic from the bootable usbkey that resulted allowed me to
create two ext3 partitions (one to be used for root /) and a swap partition
but also leave the original XP c: drive and shrink the d: drive to
accommodate the linux ext3 partitions.  There is also a hidden recovery
partition which I did not touch.  The intention was to use manual disk
partitioning during F10 install to control where Fedora 10 would install and
also to control how the non-root partition would be mounted.

In this case I decided to use the Gnome LiveCD iso for Fedora 10 as the
install media but to make a bootable usbkey for this using Unetbootin a
second time and generate a second bootable Live  usbkey.

I still don't know why the method of making a bootable Live usbkey detailed
in the Fedora wiki did not allow the system to boot from the key in this
case. However the bootable key made using Unetbootin worked just fine which
was why I took this method to install.

I suppose it would have been just as easy to make a bootable usbkey copy of
the DVD iso instead of the LiveCD iso although it would have been a little
tighter on disk space since the iso would have to be copied onto the c:
drive in windows to use with Unetbootin. It could have been done on another
machine entirely of course if you have one available.

No doubt other people will post their favourite method for achieving an
install when no optical drive is available but these one or other of the
methods outlined should get you going.

Of course starting with an install to hard drive from a LiveCD image means
that more applications will likely need to be installed after the new system
is running and more work will need to be done to optimise the system later
compared to a DVD install unless the system runs a basic desktop only and
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Re: automatic updates on unattended machines

[Martín Marqués]

2009/2/6 Neal Becker :
> I want automatic updates on unattended machines (F10).  What do I need to do
> here?
>
> I don't think PackageKit handles this (doesn't seem to work).

I don't have a F10 yet, but check out yum-cron:

# yum install yum-cron

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Re: problems with yum and fastestmirror plugin

[Martín Marqués]

2009/2/6 Kevin J. Cummings :
> Martín Marqués wrote:
>>
>> Is anybody else having hanging problems when trying to update F9? I
>> found out that disabling fastestmirror plugin makes updates work again
>> (had to push up debugging with -d 10).
>>
>
> I just updated this morning, and fastest-mirror was enabled and I had no
> problems.

Still with the same problem. :-(

Good thing is that disabling the plugin I can get the updates.

BTW, I remember puplet working this morning, but later, when I tried
to update with yum from the command line I started experiencing these
problems.

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Re: problems with yum and fastestmirror plugin

[Kevin J. Cummings]

Martín Marqués wrote:

Is anybody else having hanging problems when trying to update F9? I
found out that disabling fastestmirror plugin makes updates work again
(had to push up debugging with -d 10).



I just updated this morning, and fastest-mirror was enabled and I had no 
problems.


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Installation of Fedora PPC into an IBM LPAR

[Terry Polzin]

I'm attempting to install Fedora 10 into an LPAR on a 9133-55A,  the VIO 
server reboots while the partitions are formatting loosing the connection to 
the LV on the VIO server.  DVD does pass test. Everything works up to the 
point where the partitions format then the VIO server reboots

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problems with yum and fastestmirror plugin

[Martín Marqués]

Is anybody else having hanging problems when trying to update F9? I
found out that disabling fastestmirror plugin makes updates work again
(had to push up debugging with -d 10).

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Re: Firefox Running Slow in Linux

[Linuxguy123]

On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 19:28 +0100, Clemens Eisserer wrote:
> The problems with FireFox "beeing slow" has two different reaons:
> 
> 1.) FireFox UI is slow / Scrolling is slow:
> Your video driver does not accalerated XRender well, or is slow for
> other reaons. (While scrolling and running top, is FireFox eating all
> the CPU or Xorg?)
> FireFox just sends drawing commands to the X-Server, if the drivers
> are broken its not FireFox fault.
> 
> 2.) FireFox takes long to load / close:
> FireFox does exactly the same on Windows as well as on Linux, but Ext3
> completly dies when FireFox issues fflush commands to make sure all
> files have been written appropriate.

3) Firefox is a memory hog.  Version 3.1x is supposed to fix this
problem.  Its in beta 2 right now.

Yesterday I was doing some online buying/investigating whereby I had 8+
tabs open with a bunch of product images on each tab page.   Firefox
outright stalled if I opened one too many.  It would become totally
unresponsive for 20 to 60 seconds at times.

For the fun of it, I opened the same 8 tabs with Konqueror and it didn't
bat an eye. 

For the record, I am running a T8300 processor with 4 GB of RAM.

Luckily I don't do this sort of thing very often.  I have high hopes
that Firefox 3.1 will be better in this regard.  

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Re: installing Fedora 10 from USB Disk On Key

[Mike Cloaked]

Mike Cloaked wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> # mount -o loop   /path/to/Fedora-10-i386-DVD.iso/mnt/tmp
> 
> Now as root still, copy the two key boot files from the iso  into the
> /boot area:
> # cd /boot
> # cp /mnt/tmp/isolinux/vmlinuz f10.install
> # cp /mnt/tmp/isolinux/initrd.img f10.install.img
> 
> 

There is another important point that I forgot to add - when copying files
out of the loop mounted iso you also need to copy the "images" directory
into the SAME directory that the iso is residing in  so at this stage you
also need to do:

# cp -R  /mnt/tmp/images /path/to/  (where /path/to is the path to the
directory holding the Fedora-10-i386-DVD.iso file).

The rest of the guide should work as described.
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Re: installing Fedora 10 from USB Disk On Key

[Mike Cloaked]

Mark Ryden wrote:
> 
> 
>   I have downloaded Fedora 10  installation iso.
> 
>   I want to install it from USB disk on key as my DVDrom is not working.
> 
> Will this work:
> first:
>  dd if=linux_f10_iso.iso of=/dev/sdb and boot will start installation ?
> and then boot from the USB disk on key (after setting the BIOS to boot
> from USB disk on key, which is possible with my motherboard)
> 
> 

Do you have a running Fedora system on that machine already?

If so there is a good alternative way to do it which I will detail below.
You simply copy the iso file as an iso file onto the usb key first (i.e. not
using dd).

Then if you have more than one partition on your machine you can copy the
iso onto a non-root partition on your machine, as an iso file.

Then make a directory such as /mnt/tmp and then loop mount the iso onto that
mount point by doing as root:
# mount -o loop   /path/to/Fedora-10-i386-DVD.iso/mnt/tmp

Now as root still, copy the two key boot files from the iso  into the /boot
area:
# cd /boot
# cp /mnt/tmp/isolinux/vmlinuz f10.install
# cp /mnt/tmp/isolinux/initrd.img f10.install.img

Now you have these two files in /boot
Now add a suitable grub stanza to your grub.conf by doing
# cd /boot/grub
# vim grub.conf

Once in the editor add a set of lines after the last normal stanza in this
file that boots Fedora, in the form:
title Fedora 10 Install
root (hd0,5)
kernel /boot/f10.install
initrd /boot/f10.install.img

Make sure that the line with root (hd0,5) matches the line in the previous
stanza so that it picks the correct partition to boot from. i.e. select the
correct drive and partition. Making it the same as the values from another
stanza that boots your normal previous Fedora should be fine.

Exit vim using the "esc" button followed by ":" to get a command prompt and
then "wq" to write the changed file to disk.

Now check the partition and path to the Fedora install iso file that you
have on disk and write it down.

eg Let's say that you have /opt mounted on /dev/sda7 (check using "df -h")
and the path was /opt/isos/Fedora-10-i386-DVD.iso

You need to remember /dev/sda7 and the "relative" path will be
/isos/Fedora-10-i386-DVD.iso

Now all you need to do is to reboot the machine and interrupt grub so that
you can select "Fedora 10 Install" to boot instead of the normal boot
process.

If all has gone well you should now start to boot the Fedora 10 installer -
and be able to start off the install. If you select a hard drive install,
then select /dev/sda7 (or whatever it is on your machine for the partition
containing your iso) and your correct relative path, then the install should
proceed as normal.  Note that you will not be able to format the partition
containing your iso during the install.

If you use LVM then you will have to modify this approach accordingly.

This approach allows a full normal install.  

If you do not have Linux already on the machine but just Windows then an
alternative is to make a Live usbkey and boot that, and then once running
you can select to install to HD from the desktop, but this has a much
smaller selection of packages available than the DVD install.

On certain netbooks the advertised method of making a Live usbkey may not
work - eg in my Samsung NC-10 that did not work when I first got it - and it
does not have a DVD drive at all!  So I ended up making a live usbkey using
Unetbootin (google for it), and that worked fine.

So the basic message is that there are alternative methods to using optical
media for installing Fedora - and of course there are also http, vnc, or
network boot options also.  However the DVD iso method from HD I described
above as served me well for some years.

I hope this helps.

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Re: REMINDER: Classroom sessions this weekend!

[Paul W. Frields]

On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 06:06:37AM +1030, Tim wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 21:43 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > We have some good classes lined up this time: 
> >
> > 1:30 UTC ...
> 
> It used to be quite easy to see UTC time without using the command line.
> But now, on Gnome, at least, it isn't.  There's no option for quickly
> seeing the taskbar clock in UTC instead of local.  And the options for
> adding extra clocks doesn't give you any way to add UTC (a rather
> obvious, but not doable, solution).  The only way I could see to do that
> would be to add a location that has no offset from GMT, and doesn't
> observe daylight savings.  But I don't know of one like that.

You can add another clock applet, and then set the GConf key for
gmt_time on that applet:

gconftool-2 --set --type boolean 
/apps/panel/applets//prefs/gmt_time true

(I find the "gconf-editor" package really helpful for mucking around
with GConf -- it ends up in your Accessories > System Tools menu and
is essentially a slick GUI for gconftool-2.)

But I do wish you could add a location for UTC.  I haven't looked, but
it might be filed as an enhancement request in the upstream
bugzilla.gnome.org -- if it's not, you could file one.

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Re: KDE 3.5 in Fedora 10

[Ian Pilcher]

Jay Mistry wrote:
> Is there a way to install KDE 3.5 in Fedora 10, and also keep KDE 4.2/
> or with removal of KDE 4.2 ?

Someone posted that they had a way awhile back, but the promised details
never appeared.

Probably just torturing us.  :-(

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Re: Firefox Running Slow in Linux

[Daniel B. Thurman]

Arthur Pemberton wrote:

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Clemens Eisserer  wrote:
  

The problems with FireFox "beeing slow" has two different reaons:

1.) FireFox UI is slow / Scrolling is slow:
Your video driver does not accalerated XRender well, or is slow for
other reaons. (While scrolling and running top, is FireFox eating all
the CPU or Xorg?)


The system I have is a ClientPro DX5000, Mobo=Intel `Outrigger', PIII -
(1) 866MHz, 133FSB, 256MB RIMM Ram, PATA 200GB HD, w/2GB swap.

I found that FF w/256MB system RAM puts my system in high swap and
extremely slow system response (mouse movement is really jerky).  The vCard
that I have is a GeForce 7600, so that is not the problem, but imo, the 
lack of

system memory?

Killing FF greatly restores system performance.  It seems that the minimum
system RAM should be no less than 512MB, perhaps? Of course, more RAM
is needed if more services/apps are added to the original installed 
baseline.


Of course, with 256MB RAM, there is no way for me to do F10 installation
off the CD/DVD, it falls flat and very badly at that.  RIMM memory is 
expensive
and so I held back ($59.99/512MB and I need 2, so that pushes it up 
closer to a new
Duo-core mobos with much newer/faster hardware/options and better 
performance)


I'm pretty sure more RAM would greatly improve performance, and FF 
should be Ok.


I surmise this because FF seems to require a lot of system memory, as I 
have  another
ClientPro PIII - 667Mhz, w/ onboard Nvidia TNT (32MB ram), but with 
512MB system

RAM and FF works fine and is faster performing than on the DX5000.


FireFox just sends drawing commands to the X-Server, if the drivers
are broken its not FireFox fault.



So one needs a highend, fully supported video card to scroll properly
in Firefox/Linux?
  
Hard to say, as performance is first dependent on the Mobo: CPU/RAM/FSB 
and then the vCard,

or so I think.

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Re: REMINDER: Classroom sessions this weekend!

[Tim]

On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 21:43 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> We have some good classes lined up this time: 
>
> 1:30 UTC ...

It used to be quite easy to see UTC time without using the command line.
But now, on Gnome, at least, it isn't.  There's no option for quickly
seeing the taskbar clock in UTC instead of local.  And the options for
adding extra clocks doesn't give you any way to add UTC (a rather
obvious, but not doable, solution).  The only way I could see to do that
would be to add a location that has no offset from GMT, and doesn't
observe daylight savings.  But I don't know of one like that.


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Re: Firefox Running Slow in Linux

[Tim]

On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 13:08 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
> So one needs a highend, fully supported video card to scroll properly
> in Firefox/Linux?

Shouldn't really be so.  But, you will be shovelling many megabytes
around when scrolling a page.

e.g. 1280 x 800 pixels x 32 bits (colour) x number of screens/pages

The system needs to be reasonably fast to manage it.  Even more so when
the content is animated.

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Re: Firefox Running Slow in Linux

[Clemens Eisserer]

> So one needs a highend, fully supported video card to scroll properly
> in Firefox/Linux?
Not at all, just one with good drivers.

For now the proprietary nvidia driver is quite good on GF6+ (latest
version), and the ATI radeon driver too (for cards older than Radeon
HD2x/3x/4x).
The proprietary Catalyst driver is crap, and for Radeon-HD2/3/4 there
is currently no accelerating 2D driver at all - not free and not the
proprietary.

Intel used to be good but is performance-wise quite broken because
they re-wrote large parts of it, so I guess it needs some tuning to
reach old speeds.

- Clemens

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Re: talk about your gEDA/pcb

[Robin Laing]

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:

Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:

On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Kam Leo wrote:

 

It's been years since I looked at gEDA. Back then (6-8 years ago)
there was little integration among the tools. Is it still the case? By
the way, I visited the gEDA.org and "open collector" sites and that's
the impression that I's still getting.



Why don't you try yum install geda* ?

http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL

Chitlesh
  

My basic problem is: where do I start?  I installed this with the
hopes of testing out my version of a X10 like circuit (active
and discrete components), and yet I look at the "Circuit" menu
and I get flabergasted - because I was not sure what to do.

Do I open xcircuit first, laydown the components from a
library menu, and then once done, how do I get from there
to spice?

Perhaps an idiot-proof tutorial would come in handy so that
one can go from an idea (a simple circuit will do) all the way
through the process to the end-product?

I mean, from conception, to schematic, to spice analysis, to pcboard
(end product)?

I think this would be of benefit and in case there already is one,
where please? :)

Thanks!
Dan




I have worked through a tutorial on gEDA that didn't include spice.

I have just tried this spice tutorial.

http://www.johannes-bauer.com/electronics/

Note, that there is a slight problem with the examples on this page. 
The examples have a case issue for the netnames in Vin and Vout.  I have 
emailed the author on this but have not gotten a reply.


Of course could start at the gEDA site.
http://geda.seul.org/index.html

I have only started trying to work with spice and my first experience 
with computerized design was with Multisim on Windows 95.


I would like to see the Linux tools move into a real time simulation 
like some of the commercial applications have.


I came across this but I have yet to try it.

http://easy-spice.sourceforge.net/examples.html

Here is another gEDA and SPICE tutorial.  It is old though.  Again, I 
have not tried it.


http://www.brorson.com/gEDA/SPICE/t1.html



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KDE 3.5 in Fedora 10

[Jay Mistry]

Is there a way to install KDE 3.5 in Fedora 10, and also keep KDE 4.2/
or with removal of KDE 4.2 ?

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Re: f11 alpha x86_64 live KDE image too large to fit on CD?

[Paul W. Frields]

On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 02:06:34PM -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Feb 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 10:51:07AM -0800, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> > > --- On Fri, 2/6/09, Robert P. J. Day  wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: Robert P. J. Day 
> > > > Subject: f11 alpha x86_64 live KDE image too large to fit on CD?
> > > > To: "Fedora List" 
> > > > Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 10:29 AM
> > > >
> > > > i downloaded the set of F11 alpha live images and all burned to CD
> > > > properly except for the one above, which k3b rejected as being too
> > > > large to fit on a CD:
> > > >
> > > > 667088896 2009-02-06 13:04 F11-Alpha-i686-Live.iso
> > > > 731385856 2009-02-06 13:07 F11-Alpha-i686-Live-KDE.iso
> > > > 671713280 2009-02-06 13:06 F11-Alpha-x86_64-Live.iso
> > > > 737335296 2009-02-06 13:06 F11-Alpha-x86_64-Live-KDE.iso
> > > >
> > > > that has to be awfully close to the maximum capacity.  is that
> > > > really too large?  and why put out an image that just ever so
> > > > slightly goes over the limit?  or am i misreading something?
> > >
> > > Other than using DVD media, maybe overburn option?
> > >
> > > would help/not help at all.
> > >
> > > Yes, it does go over the limit, guess it is best to use DVD media
> > > for that one.
> >
> > As I understand it, the release engineers came to the point in the
> > schedule where they had to either release something that would work
> > on some CD burners and definitely would work for DVD/USB media, or
> > simply not release a KDE spin of Fedora 11 Alpha.  They opted to
> > make sure KDE users were properly incented to try it out. :-)
> 
> ok, that clears that up.  and should i assume that i really should
> have asked this (and all f11-related questions) on the fedora-test
> list?  i'm guessing i should have.

That would probably guarantee you an answer, just because I don't
catch all the posts here daily.  But it's well asked, in any case, and
I'm glad I could put the answer in front of this list too.

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Re: f11 alpha x86_64 live KDE image too large to fit on CD?

[Robert P. J. Day]

On Fri, 6 Feb 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 10:51:07AM -0800, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> > --- On Fri, 2/6/09, Robert P. J. Day  wrote:
> >
> > > From: Robert P. J. Day 
> > > Subject: f11 alpha x86_64 live KDE image too large to fit on CD?
> > > To: "Fedora List" 
> > > Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 10:29 AM
> > >
> > > i downloaded the set of F11 alpha live images and all burned to CD
> > > properly except for the one above, which k3b rejected as being too
> > > large to fit on a CD:
> > >
> > > 667088896 2009-02-06 13:04 F11-Alpha-i686-Live.iso
> > > 731385856 2009-02-06 13:07 F11-Alpha-i686-Live-KDE.iso
> > > 671713280 2009-02-06 13:06 F11-Alpha-x86_64-Live.iso
> > > 737335296 2009-02-06 13:06 F11-Alpha-x86_64-Live-KDE.iso
> > >
> > > that has to be awfully close to the maximum capacity.  is that
> > > really too large?  and why put out an image that just ever so
> > > slightly goes over the limit?  or am i misreading something?
> >
> > Other than using DVD media, maybe overburn option?
> >
> > would help/not help at all.
> >
> > Yes, it does go over the limit, guess it is best to use DVD media
> > for that one.
>
> As I understand it, the release engineers came to the point in the
> schedule where they had to either release something that would work
> on some CD burners and definitely would work for DVD/USB media, or
> simply not release a KDE spin of Fedora 11 Alpha.  They opted to
> make sure KDE users were properly incented to try it out. :-)

  ok, that clears that up.  and should i assume that i really should
have asked this (and all f11-related questions) on the
fedora-test list?  i'm guessing i should have.

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Re: Firefox Running Slow in Linux

[Arthur Pemberton]

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Clemens Eisserer  wrote:
> The problems with FireFox "beeing slow" has two different reaons:
>
> 1.) FireFox UI is slow / Scrolling is slow:
> Your video driver does not accalerated XRender well, or is slow for
> other reaons. (While scrolling and running top, is FireFox eating all
> the CPU or Xorg?)
> FireFox just sends drawing commands to the X-Server, if the drivers
> are broken its not FireFox fault.

So one needs a highend, fully supported video card to scroll properly
in Firefox/Linux?

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Re: f11 alpha x86_64 live KDE image too large to fit on CD?

[Carroll Grigsby]

On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 13:29:11 -0500 (EST)
"Robert P. J. Day" wrote:

> 
>   i downloaded the set of F11 alpha live images and all burned to CD
> properly except for the one above, which k3b rejected as being too
> large to fit on a CD:
> 
> 667088896 2009-02-06 13:04 F11-Alpha-i686-Live.iso
> 731385856 2009-02-06 13:07 F11-Alpha-i686-Live-KDE.iso
> 671713280 2009-02-06 13:06 F11-Alpha-x86_64-Live.iso
> 737335296 2009-02-06 13:06 F11-Alpha-x86_64-Live-KDE.iso
> 
>   that has to be awfully close to the maximum capacity.  is that
> really too large?  and why put out an image that just ever so slightly
> goes over the limit?  or am i misreading something?
> 
> rday
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OK, sez I, let's give it a shot. While the resultant CD passed both
Brasero's verification procedure and Fedora's on-disk verification, it
is the slowest live CD I've ever used -- it took 9 minutes to do the
verification and then boot to the desktop. Even then, it was way too
slow -- as in 14 seconds to open Konsole. The logs were loaded with avc
denials; nothing about hardware problems. Odd, since F10 runs quite
nicely on this box. I also downloaded the DVD and I'll install it on a
spare partition this weekend.

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Re: f11 alpha x86_64 live KDE image too large to fit on CD?

[Paul W. Frields]

On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 10:51:07AM -0800, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> --- On Fri, 2/6/09, Robert P. J. Day  wrote:
> 
> > From: Robert P. J. Day 
> > Subject: f11 alpha x86_64 live KDE image too large to fit on CD?
> > To: "Fedora List" 
> > Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 10:29 AM
> > 
> > i downloaded the set of F11 alpha live images and all burned to CD
> > properly except for the one above, which k3b rejected as being too
> > large to fit on a CD:
> > 
> > 667088896 2009-02-06 13:04 F11-Alpha-i686-Live.iso
> > 731385856 2009-02-06 13:07 F11-Alpha-i686-Live-KDE.iso
> > 671713280 2009-02-06 13:06 F11-Alpha-x86_64-Live.iso
> > 737335296 2009-02-06 13:06 F11-Alpha-x86_64-Live-KDE.iso
> > 
> > that has to be awfully close to the maximum capacity.  is that
> > really too large?  and why put out an image that just ever so
> > slightly goes over the limit?  or am i misreading something?
> 
> Other than using DVD media, maybe overburn option?
> 
> would help/not help at all.
> 
> Yes, it does go over the limit, guess it is best to use DVD media
> for that one.

As I understand it, the release engineers came to the point in the
schedule where they had to either release something that would work on
some CD burners and definitely would work for DVD/USB media, or simply
not release a KDE spin of Fedora 11 Alpha.  They opted to make sure
KDE users were properly incented to try it out. :-)

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Re: f11 alpha x86_64 live KDE image too large to fit on CD?

[Robert P. J. Day]

On Fri, 6 Feb 2009, Antonio Olivares wrote:

> --- On Fri, 2/6/09, Robert P. J. Day  wrote:
>
> > From: Robert P. J. Day 
> > Subject: f11 alpha x86_64 live KDE image too large to fit on CD?
> > To: "Fedora List" 
> > Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 10:29 AM
> > i downloaded the set of F11 alpha live images and all burned
> > to CD
> > properly except for the one above, which k3b rejected as
> > being too
> > large to fit on a CD:
> >
> > 667088896 2009-02-06 13:04 F11-Alpha-i686-Live.iso
> > 731385856 2009-02-06 13:07 F11-Alpha-i686-Live-KDE.iso
> > 671713280 2009-02-06 13:06 F11-Alpha-x86_64-Live.iso
> > 737335296 2009-02-06 13:06 F11-Alpha-x86_64-Live-KDE.iso
> >
> >   that has to be awfully close to the maximum capacity.  is
> > that
> > really too large?  and why put out an image that just ever
> > so slightly
> > goes over the limit?  or am i misreading something?
> >
> > rday
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> >
> > 
> > Robert P. J. Day
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> > Have classroom, will lecture.
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> > http://crashcourse.ca  Waterloo,
> > Ontario, CANADA
> > 
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> > --
>
> Other than using DVD media, maybe overburn option?
>
> would help/not help at all.
>
> Yes, it does go over the limit, guess it is best to use DVD media
> for that one.

  yeah, i went with DVD, i just find it odd to release an image that's
that "close but no cigar".  oh, well.

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Re: f11 alpha x86_64 live KDE image too large to fit on CD?

[Antonio Olivares]

--- On Fri, 2/6/09, Robert P. J. Day  wrote:

> From: Robert P. J. Day 
> Subject: f11 alpha x86_64 live KDE image too large to fit on CD?
> To: "Fedora List" 
> Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 10:29 AM
> i downloaded the set of F11 alpha live images and all burned
> to CD
> properly except for the one above, which k3b rejected as
> being too
> large to fit on a CD:
> 
> 667088896 2009-02-06 13:04 F11-Alpha-i686-Live.iso
> 731385856 2009-02-06 13:07 F11-Alpha-i686-Live-KDE.iso
> 671713280 2009-02-06 13:06 F11-Alpha-x86_64-Live.iso
> 737335296 2009-02-06 13:06 F11-Alpha-x86_64-Live-KDE.iso
> 
>   that has to be awfully close to the maximum capacity.  is
> that
> really too large?  and why put out an image that just ever
> so slightly
> goes over the limit?  or am i misreading something?
> 
> rday
> --
> 
> 
> Robert P. J. Day
> Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry:
> Have classroom, will lecture.
> 
> http://crashcourse.ca  Waterloo,
> Ontario, CANADA
> 
> 
> -- 

Other than using DVD media, maybe overburn option?

would help/not help at all.

Yes, it does go over the limit, guess it is best to use DVD media for that one. 
 

Regards,

Antonio 


  

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Re: Firefox Running Slow in Linux

[Clemens Eisserer]

The problems with FireFox "beeing slow" has two different reaons:

1.) FireFox UI is slow / Scrolling is slow:
Your video driver does not accalerated XRender well, or is slow for
other reaons. (While scrolling and running top, is FireFox eating all
the CPU or Xorg?)
FireFox just sends drawing commands to the X-Server, if the drivers
are broken its not FireFox fault.

2.) FireFox takes long to load / close:
FireFox does exactly the same on Windows as well as on Linux, but Ext3
completly dies when FireFox issues fflush commands to make sure all
files have been written appropriate.

- Clemens


2009/2/4 Patrick O'Callaghan :
> On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 16:24 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Daniel B. Thurman  wrote:
>> > Well, what do you mean by rendering?  What exactly are you 'rendering'?
>>
>> The HTML and images that are being converted to pixels.
>>
>> >  Running
>> > a java-based or some other application like a mandelbrot application or
>> > what? You
>> > might let us know exactly what you are doing?
>>
>> Just browsing the internet.
>>
>> > It is hard to tell with the little data you are giving as to determine if 
>> > by
>> > rendering you
>> > are getting `streaming data' coming from "remote" or "local" sources  and 
>> > if
>> > the
>> > data (for rendering?) coming from local/remote servers and/or services?
>>
>> Doesn't rendering simply mean creating visuals from data?
>>
>> > Just wondered,
>> > Dan
>>
>> I'm talking about scrolling through long pages and zooming in and out,
>> things Firefox on Windows handles with no effort.
>
> I'll just comment that I have no performance problems with FF on F10
> x86_64, except that it can take a while to start up and has sometimes
> been known to suck cpu (possibly the Java plugin is doing this in my
> case). This is KDE 4.1, Intel Core 2 Duo, 4GB of RAM (but it was the
> same with 2GB) and onboard Intel video. I don't use Compiz. I do use
> AdBlock, Flashblock and NoScript.
>
> poc
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f11 alpha x86_64 live KDE image too large to fit on CD?

[Robert P. J. Day]

  i downloaded the set of F11 alpha live images and all burned to CD
properly except for the one above, which k3b rejected as being too
large to fit on a CD:

667088896 2009-02-06 13:04 F11-Alpha-i686-Live.iso
731385856 2009-02-06 13:07 F11-Alpha-i686-Live-KDE.iso
671713280 2009-02-06 13:06 F11-Alpha-x86_64-Live.iso
737335296 2009-02-06 13:06 F11-Alpha-x86_64-Live-KDE.iso

  that has to be awfully close to the maximum capacity.  is that
really too large?  and why put out an image that just ever so slightly
goes over the limit?  or am i misreading something?

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Re: Creating ISO's and Writing DVD's on F10

[Bill Davidsen]

Robin Laing wrote:

Aaron Gray wrote:


Are there any GUI tools for creating ISO's and burning DVD's on F10.
 
If there are what are they called ?
 
Many thanks in advance,
 
Aaron
 



When you ask about creating ISO's, are you talking about DATA or Video 
DVD's?


Most of the suggestions will work for creating DATA DVD's or burning 
pre-created VIDEO_TS/* files.


Creating full Video DVD's is another matter.


True. My solution for DVD creation is dvdstyler, vcdimager for VCD and SVCD.

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Re: installing Fedora 10 from USB Disk On Key

[Craig White]

On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 16:50 +0200, Mark Ryden wrote:
> Hello,
> 
>   I have downloaded Fedora 10  installation iso.
> 
>   I want to install it from USB disk on key as my DVDrom is not working.
> 
> Will this work:
> first:
>  dd if=linux_f10_iso.iso of=/dev/sdb and boot will start installation ?
> and then boot from the USB disk on key (after setting the BIOS to boot
> from USB disk on key, which is possible with my motherboard)
> 
> 
> (/dev/sdb is my USB disk on key).
> 
> Second question:
> suppose I take a live cd of Feodra 9 and then try to install fedora 10
> iso (from the HD) - will such thing work?
> Or **MUST** I use a live cd of the same version as the Fedora which I
> want to install (namely, the live cd and the fedora iso (which is on the
> disk) I am installing must be of the same version, namely fedora  10?

see...
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-January/msg03114.html

which uses tool kit here...
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo

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Re: Primer to explain how to boot a second "Test Fedora" under Fedora 10 with VM

[Todd Denniston]

Leslie Satenstein wrote, On 02/06/2009 07:57 AM:
 It may be off topic, 

Question was not necessarily, way of asking was.
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Re: installing perl modules on F10

[Dave Cross]

2009/2/6 Norman Gaywood :
> Hi list,
>
> So whats the recommended way of installing perl modules in Fedora 10?

rpm and/or yum

> What we have been doing in the past is to install a perl-* rpm via yum
> if one is available for the module we want.
>
> If the module is not available via rpm, we use "perl -MCPAN -e shell" to
> install modules.

I really don't recommend that. Mixing rpm-installed modules and
cpan-installed modules is very likely to lead to unhappiness.

You may find my "Perl in RPM-Land" presentation interesting.

  http://www.slideshare.net/davorg/perl-in-rpmland-presentation

Cheers,

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Re: Creating ISO's and Writing DVD's on F10

[Robin Laing]

Michael Cronenworth wrote:

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Creating ISO's and Writing DVD's on F10
From: Aaron Gray 
To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. 


Date: 02/05/2009 03:14 PM



Are there any that are already installed, as I dont have networking 
working on this machine, or am I going to have to use command line 
tools ?


Many thanks,

Aaron



Nautilus under Gnome should burn to a DVD. Nautilus is the default file 
browser. Put in a DVD and it should open a window and say "Put files in 
here and press BURN" to burn.


Alternative: Can you provide an external media source of some kind? USB 
flash drive? DVD? Download the brasero RPM and manually install the RPM 
(double click on the icon).




The only issue with this is dependencies.  The user may not have all the 
other files needed when getting just K3b or Brasero.


If the user doesn't have networking working, can he get it working to do 
a yum install.



I just did a yum deplist for brasero and ended up with this.

dependency: dvd+rw-tools
  dependency: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3.4)(64bit)
  dependency: shared-mime-info
  dependency: libpopt.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.4)(64bit)
  dependency: libc.so.6()(64bit)
  dependency: libdbus-1.so.3()(64bit)
  dependency: rtld(GNU_HASH)
  dependency: libbonoboui-2.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: libpthread.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.5)(64bit)
  dependency: libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.5)(64bit)
  dependency: libgnomevfs-2.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: libpangocairo-1.0.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: config(brasero) = 0.8.2-1.fc10
  dependency: libpango-1.0.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: libfreetype.so.6()(64bit)
  dependency: libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: mkisofs
  dependency: libgmodule-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3)(64bit)
  dependency: libm.so.6()(64bit)
  dependency: libbonobo-2.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: libgnomeui-2.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: libburn.so.4()(64bit)
  dependency: libisofs.so.6()(64bit)
  dependency: libcairo.so.2()(64bit)
  dependency: libORBit-2.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: libtotem-plparser.so.12()(64bit)
  dependency: libfontconfig.so.1()(64bit)
  dependency: libglib-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: librt.so.1()(64bit)
  dependency: libICE.so.6()(64bit)
  dependency: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.7)(64bit)
  dependency: libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.2.5)(64bit)
  dependency: libgthread-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: libpangoft2-1.0.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: libgnome-2.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: libbeagle.so.1()(64bit)
  dependency: libgstpbutils-0.10.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: libgio-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: cdrdao
  dependency: libatk-1.0.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: /bin/sh
  dependency: cdda2wav
  dependency: libgstreamer-0.10.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: cdrecord
  dependency: libdbus-glib-1.so.2()(64bit)
  dependency: libgconf-2.so.4()(64bit)
  dependency: libart_lgpl_2.so.2()(64bit)
  dependency: libbonobo-activation.so.4()(64bit)
  dependency: libgnomecanvas-2.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: libgobject-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: libSM.so.6()(64bit)
  dependency: libgstinterfaces-0.10.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: libxml2.so.2()(64bit)
  dependency: GConf2
  dependency: libhal.so.1()(64bit)
  dependency: dvd+rw-tools
  dependency: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3.4)(64bit)
  dependency: shared-mime-info
  dependency: libpopt.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: config(brasero) = 0.8.4-1.fc10
  dependency: libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.4)(64bit)
  dependency: libc.so.6()(64bit)
  dependency: libdbus-1.so.3()(64bit)
  dependency: libgailutil.so.18()(64bit)
  dependency: libbonoboui-2.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: libpthread.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.5)(64bit)
  dependency: libm.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.5)(64bit)
  dependency: libgnomevfs-2.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: libpangocairo-1.0.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: libgthread-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: libpango-1.0.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: libfreetype.so.6()(64bit)
  dependency: libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: mkisofs
  dependency: libgmodule-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3)(64bit)
  dependency: libglade-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: libm.so.6()(64bit)
  dependency: libbonobo-2.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: libgnomeui-2.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: libburn.so.4()(64bit)
  dependency: libisofs.so.6()(64bit)
  dependency: libcairo.so.2()(64bit)
  dependency: libORBit-2.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: libtotem-plparser.so.12()(64bit)
  dependency: libfontconfig.so.1()(64bit)
  dependency: libglib-2.0.so.0()(64bit)
  dependency: librt.so.1()(64bit)
  dependency: libICE.so.6()(64bit)
  dependency: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.7)(64bit)
  dependency: libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.2.5)(64bit)
  dependency: libeel-2.so.2()(64bit)
  dependency: libpangoft2-1.0.so.0()(64bit)
  depen

Re: Creating ISO's and Writing DVD's on F10

[Robin Laing]

Aaron Gray wrote:


Are there any GUI tools for creating ISO's and burning DVD's on F10.
 
If there are what are they called ?
 
Many thanks in advance,
 
Aaron
 



When you ask about creating ISO's, are you talking about DATA or Video 
DVD's?


Most of the suggestions will work for creating DATA DVD's or burning 
pre-created VIDEO_TS/* files.


Creating full Video DVD's is another matter.

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Re: Fedora 10 login screen and terminal windows

[Margaret Doll]

Thanks.   I also found that "Lucinda Typewriter" without the bold  
actually was black on white and is easy to read.



On Feb 6, 2009, at 11:17 AM, fedora wrote:


Hi Margret
try using a bold font (Edit/Preferences/General)

suomi

Margaret Doll wrote:
Another complaint I have is with the terminal windows.  When I am  
using black lettering on a white background, the black lettering  
look more like gray.   With my aging eyes I would really like to  
have the lettering  a real black.  I have played with the "color"  
terminal window settings, but haven't seen an improvement.

On Feb 5, 2009, at 7:51 PM, solarflow99 wrote:



On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Margaret Doll  > wrote:





   On Feb 4, 2009, at 6:34 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

   On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 18:39:55 -0430
   Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

   You haven't said which display manager you're using.
   If it's gdm, the
   above instructions presumably should work (I wouldn't
   know).


   Odds are good if it is gdm changes won't take effect till
   you reboot
   or run some obscure undocumented tool to make gdm  
reread the

   config info.


   I installed gconf-editor and ran the program. There was  
no

   disable_user_list box




   /etc/gdm/custom.conf  initially contained

  [xdmcp]
  [chooser]
  [security]
  [debug]



   gconftool-2 --config-source
   xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf.xml.defaults --direct --type bool
   --set /apps/adm/simplgreeter/disable_user_list true

   executed.

   However after a reboot,  I still have the first two accounts
   showing up with the "Other" login on the login  
screen.  /etc/gdm/custom.conf has no changes.  When I use  
gconf-editor,

   I still see the same entries as before I issued the
   gconftool-2 command.


ya, it didnt work for me either, I tried everything.  So now I  
just used SLiM and dont need GDM at all.  There is no user list  
and its faster.



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Re: REMINDER: Classroom sessions this weekend!

[Paul W. Frields]

On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 11:05:58AM -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 11:25:00AM -0500, Steve wrote:
> > 
> >  Kevin Fenzi  wrote: 
> > > Just a reminder to everyone... we will be holding some more IRC
> > > classroom sessions this Saturday (2009-02-07).
> > > 
> > > See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom for more information. 
> > > 
> > > We have some good classes lined up this time: 
> > > 
> > > 1:30 UTC  Introduction to Fedora Classroom and Sessions
> > > 1:45 UTC  Using Yum - Tricks and tips - Kevin Fenzi
> > > 3:00 UTC  Understanding RPM - The engine behind yum - Clint Savage
> > > 4:15 UTC  Fedora 11 Features - Jon Stanley
> > > 5:30 UTC  Fedora i18n - Jens Petersen
> > > 6:30 UTC  Fedora Classroom Wrap-up Session 
> > 
> > Any plans for a second class on SELinux? The first one was a good
> > introduction but I'd like to see the next level.
> 
> Maybe we should either have a wish list on the Classroom page that
> records these requests -- great one, by the way! -- or use the
> "discussion" tab at the top as a place to record them.

Should have read the page before I replied -- there is such a list on
the wiki right now:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom#Suggest_a_Class

I added this suggestion to the list.

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Re: Fedora 10 login screen and terminal windows

[fedora]

Hi Margret
try using a bold font (Edit/Preferences/General)

suomi

Margaret Doll wrote:
Another complaint I have is with the terminal windows.  When I am using 
black lettering on a white background, the black lettering look more 
like gray.   With my aging eyes I would really like to have the 
lettering  a real black.  I have played with the "color" terminal window 
settings, but haven't seen an improvement.



On Feb 5, 2009, at 7:51 PM, solarflow99 wrote:




On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Margaret Doll > wrote:





On Feb 4, 2009, at 6:34 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 18:39:55 -0430
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

You haven't said which display manager you're using.
If it's gdm, the
above instructions presumably should work (I wouldn't
know).


Odds are good if it is gdm changes won't take effect till
you reboot
or run some obscure undocumented tool to make gdm reread the
config info.


I installed gconf-editor and ran the program. There was no
disable_user_list box




/etc/gdm/custom.conf  initially contained

   [xdmcp]
   [chooser]
   [security]
   [debug]



gconftool-2 --config-source
xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf.xml.defaults --direct --type bool
--set /apps/adm/simplgreeter/disable_user_list true

executed.

However after a reboot,  I still have the first two accounts
showing up with the "Other" login on the login screen.  
/etc/gdm/custom.conf has no changes.  When I use gconf-editor,

I still see the same entries as before I issued the
gconftool-2 command.


ya, it didnt work for me either, I tried everything.  So now I just 
used SLiM and dont need GDM at all.  There is no user list and its faster.



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Re: REMINDER: Classroom sessions this weekend!

[Paul W. Frields]

On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 11:25:00AM -0500, Steve wrote:
> 
>  Kevin Fenzi  wrote: 
> > Just a reminder to everyone... we will be holding some more IRC
> > classroom sessions this Saturday (2009-02-07).
> > 
> > See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom for more information. 
> > 
> > We have some good classes lined up this time: 
> > 
> > 1:30 UTCIntroduction to Fedora Classroom and Sessions
> > 1:45 UTCUsing Yum - Tricks and tips - Kevin Fenzi
> > 3:00 UTCUnderstanding RPM - The engine behind yum - Clint Savage
> > 4:15 UTCFedora 11 Features - Jon Stanley
> > 5:30 UTCFedora i18n - Jens Petersen
> > 6:30 UTCFedora Classroom Wrap-up Session 
> 
> Any plans for a second class on SELinux? The first one was a good
> introduction but I'd like to see the next level.

Maybe we should either have a wish list on the Classroom page that
records these requests -- great one, by the way! -- or use the
"discussion" tab at the top as a place to record them.

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Re: Fedora 10 login screen and terminal windows

[Margaret Doll]

Another complaint I have is with the terminal windows.  When I am  
using black lettering on a white background, the black lettering look  
more like gray.   With my aging eyes I would really like to have the  
lettering  a real black.  I have played with the "color" terminal  
window settings, but haven't seen an improvement.



On Feb 5, 2009, at 7:51 PM, solarflow99 wrote:




On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Margaret Doll  
 wrote:




On Feb 4, 2009, at 6:34 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 18:39:55 -0430
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

You haven't said which display manager you're using. If it's gdm, the
above instructions presumably should work (I wouldn't know).

Odds are good if it is gdm changes won't take effect till you reboot
or run some obscure undocumented tool to make gdm reread the
config info.

I installed gconf-editor and ran the program. There was no
disable_user_list box




/etc/gdm/custom.conf  initially contained

   [xdmcp]
   [chooser]
   [security]
   [debug]



gconftool-2 --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf.xml.defaults -- 
direct --type bool --set /apps/adm/simplgreeter/disable_user_list true


executed.

However after a reboot,  I still have the first two accounts showing  
up with the "Other" login on the login screen.   /etc/gdm/ 
custom.conf has no changes.  When I use gconf-editor, I still see  
the same entries as before I issued the gconftool-2 command.



ya, it didnt work for me either, I tried everything.  So now I just  
used SLiM and dont need GDM at all.  There is no user list and its  
faster.



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Re: system time shifts after reboot

[Anoop]

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Roberto Ragusa  wrote:
> Anoop wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Roberto Ragusa  wrote:
>>>
>>>  /etc/localtime
>> This was a soft link to '/usr/share/zoneinfo/Asia/Kolkata' on my
>> machine. Then I looked on another machine (Fedora 9), there
>> '/etc/localtime' was itself the 'Kolkota' time zone file. I copied
>> /etc/localtime from fedora 9 to my machine and it worked.
>> I am still not sure what was the issue though.
>
> Possible explanation:
> when the system tried to read the hw clock and set the system clock,
> it needed info about your timezone (because UTC=no) and tried to
> read /etc/localtime, which was a symlink to /usr, which was not
> mounted yet.
>
> Do you have a separate /usr partition?
Yes :). Thanks a lot.

-Anoop
>
> It seems reasonable to me.
>
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>
>

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Re: installing Fedora 10 from USB Disk On Key

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

Mark Ryden wrote:
> Hello,
> 
>   I have downloaded Fedora 10  installation iso.
> 
>   I want to install it from USB disk on key as my DVDrom is not working.
> 
> Will this work:
> first:
>  dd if=linux_f10_iso.iso of=/dev/sdb and boot will start installation ?
> and then boot from the USB disk on key (after setting the BIOS to boot
> from USB disk on key, which is possible with my motherboard)
> 
No - the boot image on a DVD is at a different location then on a
hard drive. (The USB key is seen as a hard drive.
> 
> (/dev/sdb is my USB disk on key).
> 
> Second question:
> suppose I take a live cd of Feodra 9 and then try to install fedora 10
> iso (from the HD) - will such thing work?

No - it will want a F9 install media.

> Or **MUST** I use a live cd of the same version as the Fedora which I
> want to install (namely, the live cd and the fedora iso (which is on the
> disk) I am installing must be of the same version, namely fedora  10?
> 
You can use a live CD from the same version. You can use the
instructions on installing from a hard drive to install F10.

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f10/en_US/sn-installing-from-harddrive.html

But I can not find the instructions to make the USB key boot into
the install image. If someone else does not have the URL, or
remember the instructions, you can use the directions for making a
bootable USB drive with the live CD using the install image from the
DVD. (/images/boot.iso)

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Re: Ran out of disk space during yum update

[Dennis Kaptain]

> > Subject: Re: Ran out of disk space during yum update

> > 
> > Robert Moskowitz writes:
> > 
> > > In the new install I did, I was not alert and did a complete yum update,
> > > and my / partition ran out.
> 

a simple script that takes a long time but uses ABSOLUTE minimal space 

#! /bin/bash

yum -q check-update > /root/check-update
for i in `awk '{print $1}' < /root/check-update`
   do
   yum -y update $i
   yum clean all
done
rm /root/check-update

this checks for available updates and puts them into a file.
then it goes through that file one line at a time and installs that package 
along with it's dependencies
It cleans up after each install
then it removes the file it created

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Re: Adobe announces 64-bit Flash plugin for Linux (Alpha verson)

[Wolfgang S. Rupprecht]

"Gregory P. Ennis"  writes:
> Thanks Wolfgang!!!

Glad to be of help Gregory.

> Do you know if this flash player has sound capabliity?  The graphics
> worked fine, but there was no sound.

In theory it does have sound, although on a few of my Fedora-10 systems
pulseaudio problems keep the sound from working for many applications
(not just adobe flash).  Maybe you are seeing something similar?

Sorry, I have no advice for the Fedora audio problem in general.  It
seems to be a mess.

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Re: system time shifts after reboot

[Roberto Ragusa]

Anoop wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Roberto Ragusa  wrote:
>>
>>  /etc/localtime
> This was a soft link to '/usr/share/zoneinfo/Asia/Kolkata' on my
> machine. Then I looked on another machine (Fedora 9), there
> '/etc/localtime' was itself the 'Kolkota' time zone file. I copied
> /etc/localtime from fedora 9 to my machine and it worked.
> I am still not sure what was the issue though.

Possible explanation:
when the system tried to read the hw clock and set the system clock,
it needed info about your timezone (because UTC=no) and tried to
read /etc/localtime, which was a symlink to /usr, which was not
mounted yet.

Do you have a separate /usr partition?

It seems reasonable to me.

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installing Fedora 10 from USB Disk On Key

[Mark Ryden]

Hello,

  I have downloaded Fedora 10  installation iso.

  I want to install it from USB disk on key as my DVDrom is not working.

Will this work:
first:
 dd if=linux_f10_iso.iso of=/dev/sdb and boot will start installation ?
and then boot from the USB disk on key (after setting the BIOS to boot
from USB disk on key, which is possible with my motherboard)


(/dev/sdb is my USB disk on key).

Second question:
suppose I take a live cd of Feodra 9 and then try to install fedora 10
iso (from the HD) - will such thing work?
Or **MUST** I use a live cd of the same version as the Fedora which I
want to install (namely, the live cd and the fedora iso (which is on the
disk) I am installing must be of the same version, namely fedora  10?

Rgs,
Mark

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Re: REMINDER: Classroom sessions this weekend!

[Steve]

 Kevin Fenzi  wrote: 
> Just a reminder to everyone... we will be holding some more IRC
> classroom sessions this Saturday (2009-02-07).
> 
> See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom for more information. 
> 
> We have some good classes lined up this time: 
> 
> 1:30 UTC  Introduction to Fedora Classroom and Sessions
> 1:45 UTC  Using Yum - Tricks and tips - Kevin Fenzi
> 3:00 UTC  Understanding RPM - The engine behind yum - Clint Savage
> 4:15 UTC  Fedora 11 Features - Jon Stanley
> 5:30 UTC  Fedora i18n - Jens Petersen
> 6:30 UTC  Fedora Classroom Wrap-up Session 

Any plans for a second class on SELinux? The first one was a good introduction 
but I'd like to see the next level.

Steve

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Re: OpenJDK x86_64 + i386 on one machine

[Patrick Steiner]

Kevin Kofler wrote:

Patrick Steiner wrote:
  

since the last java update it is not possible to install x86_64 and i386
version of openjdk.



AFAIK, this has never been supported, it only worked for you by accident.

Kevin Kofler

  
Hmm so this could be a problem, because I use netbeans for midp 
development. And there I need the i386 sdk for the midp emulator.


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automatic updates on unattended machines

[Neal Becker]

I want automatic updates on unattended machines (F10).  What do I need to do 
here?

I don't think PackageKit handles this (doesn't seem to work).


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Re: system time shifts after reboot

[Anoop]

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Roberto Ragusa  wrote:
> Anoop wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Whenever I reboot my Fedora 10 machine, the system time jumps to
>> current time + 05:30. Looks time it is jumping by timezone offset IST
>> (GMT+ 5:30). The hardware clock has the correct time after reboot
>> though. I am not using the UTC clock option.
>> Link '/etc/localtime' points to the correct timezone file and file
>> /etc/sysconfig/clock also contains the correct timezone.
>>
>> Any ideas, what might have gone wrong?
>
> What do you mean by system time?
> I mean, what is displayed in GNOME/KDE applets or what you see
> with "date" or what...
>
> Check (some things, you have already done...) the output of
>
>  date
>  date -u
>  hwclock
>  hwclock -u
>
> then have a look at
>
>  /etc/localtime
This was a soft link to '/usr/share/zoneinfo/Asia/Kolkata' on my
machine. Then I looked on another machine (Fedora 9), there
'/etc/localtime' was itself the 'Kolkota' time zone file. I copied
/etc/localtime from fedora 9 to my machine and it worked.
I am still not sure what was the issue though.

Thanks,
Anoop

>  /etc/sysconfig/clock
>  /etc/adjtime
>
> check if you have a TZ variable involved with
>
>  echo $TZ
>
> and, are you running ntpd?
>
>   /etc/init.d/ntpd status
>
> if yes, what does it say when you do
>
>  ntpq -p
>
> These problems are often caused by something wrong in one place
> and "fixing" it in the wrong one is very easy.
>
> Please consider switching to UTC for your hardware clock. It is
> better (I know, if you also boot Windows you can't).
>
> I adventurously guess that you have a wrong timezone setting somewhere
> and running ntpdate on boot.
>
> Best regards.
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>

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Re: system time shifts after reboot

[Roberto Ragusa]

Anoop wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Whenever I reboot my Fedora 10 machine, the system time jumps to
> current time + 05:30. Looks time it is jumping by timezone offset IST
> (GMT+ 5:30). The hardware clock has the correct time after reboot
> though. I am not using the UTC clock option.
> Link '/etc/localtime' points to the correct timezone file and file
> /etc/sysconfig/clock also contains the correct timezone.
>
> Any ideas, what might have gone wrong?

What do you mean by system time?
I mean, what is displayed in GNOME/KDE applets or what you see
with "date" or what...

Check (some things, you have already done...) the output of

  date
  date -u
  hwclock
  hwclock -u

then have a look at

  /etc/localtime
  /etc/sysconfig/clock
  /etc/adjtime

check if you have a TZ variable involved with

  echo $TZ

and, are you running ntpd?

   /etc/init.d/ntpd status

if yes, what does it say when you do

  ntpq -p

These problems are often caused by something wrong in one place
and "fixing" it in the wrong one is very easy.

Please consider switching to UTC for your hardware clock. It is
better (I know, if you also boot Windows you can't).

I adventurously guess that you have a wrong timezone setting somewhere
and running ntpdate on boot.

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Re: OpenJDK x86_64 + i386 on one machine

[Kevin Kofler]

Patrick Steiner wrote:
> since the last java update it is not possible to install x86_64 and i386
> version of openjdk.

AFAIK, this has never been supported, it only worked for you by accident.

Kevin Kofler

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Re: Omega 10 release

[Kevin Kofler]

Leslie Satenstein wrote:
> Are the codecs and other multi-media stuff available for Fedora10 via
> rpmfusion or livna?

Yes, all the content on Omega (except the branding, I guess) is from Fedora,
RPM Fusion or Livna.

Kevin Kofler

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Primer to explain how to boot a second "Test Fedora" under Fedora 10 with VM

[Leslie Satenstein]

 It may be off topic, but I have some after-supper time to do F11 testing, only 
my 2nd (test) system was sequestered, leaving me in the lurch.

Is there a step by step explanation available somewhere?  My processor is the 
intel E7300


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Re: installing perl modules on F10

[Neil Bird]

Around about 06/02/09 06:13, Ralf Corsepius typed ...

However, on the systems we recently upgraded to Fedora 10 (from F8), the
perl modules installed via CPAN are no longer in perl's @INC search path.

Yes. site_perl has been changed in F10.


  Well this is odd, as I've only recently (post F10 upgrade) decided to 
start using the 'cpan' command via sudo (from perl-CPAN RPM, prob. a wrapper 
doing what the OP does by ,long-hand) for modules not available as RPM... 
and that's been working a treat for me.  Something like 'sudo cpan' then 
'install abc::xyz'.


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Re: [4:SUSPECT]: Re: Help for Samba configuration

[Antonio M]

2009/2/6 Antonio M :
> 2009/2/5 Antonio M :
>> 2009/2/5 antonio montagnani :
>>> Antonio M wrote / ha scritto on /il 05/02/2009 16:19:

 2009/2/5 Antonio M :

>>
>> and when I try to connect to Pubblici (one of my shares) I get:
>> [2009/02/05 15:25:58,  0] smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(1156)
>>  '/home/antonio/Pubblici' does not exist or permission denied when
>> connecting to [Pubblici] Error was Permission denied
>>
>> --
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>> Skype : antoniomontag
>>
>>
>
> Other info that can be useful to help
>
> smbclient //ACERF10/antonio
> Enter antonio's password:
> Anonymous login successful
> Domain=[WORKGROUP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.2.7-0.25.fc10]
> smb: \> dir
> NT_STATUS_NETWORK_ACCESS_DENIED listing \*
>
>   0 blocks of size 0. 511 blocks available
> smb: \> help
> ?  allinfoaltnamearchiveblocksize
> cancel case_sensitive cd chmod  chown
> close  deldirdu echo
> exit   getgetfaclhardlink   help
> historyiosize lcdlink   lock
> lowercase  ls l  mask   md
> mget   mkdir  more   mput   newer
> open   posix  posix_encrypt  posix_open posix_mkdir
> posix_rmdirposix_unlink   print  prompt put
> pwdq  queue  quit   rd
> recursereget  rename reput  rm
> rmdir  showacls   setmodestat   symlink
> tartarmodetranslate  unlock volume
> vuid   wdel   logon  listconnectshowconnect
> .. !
> smb: \> ls
> NT_STATUS_NETWORK_ACCESS_DENIED listing \*
>
>
> --
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>
>

  and if I give also the password I get:

 $ smbclient //ACERF10/antonio
 Enter antonio's password:
 session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE





>>>
>>> Now I have reissued the smbpasswd -a antonio
>>>  smbclient //ACERF10/antonio
>>> Enter antonio's password:
>>> Domain=[ACERF10] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.2.7-0.25.fc10]
>>> smb: \>
>>>
>>> i.e. now I can log in as antonio, and surf using smb commands
>>> But if I use the graphic interface I still get the message that mounting of
>>> folder is failed (and I am logged as antonio on same machine)...
>>>
>>> One little step ahead
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
>>> Pensa prima di stampare-Think before printing
>>> ==
>>> Mail by Thunderbird 2.0 Websurfing by Firefox 3.0
>>> ==
>>> Linux Fedora F10 (Cambridge)  on Acer 5720
>>> Linux user number 362582
>>> ==
>>>
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>>
>> this is the screenshot of what I do...
>>
>> --
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>>
>
> I issued this command as root:
>
>  mount -t smbfs -o username=antonio //AcerF10/musica /home/antonio/sambabis
> and I get:
>
> mount: tipo di filesystem 'smbfs' sconosciuto
> that means fylesystem type unknown!!!
>
> What does it mean???
>
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Forgive me: i should have used cifs instead
Now it is mounted on sambabis. from the command line




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Re: [4:SUSPECT]: Re: Help for Samba configuration

[Antonio M]

2009/2/5 Antonio M :
> 2009/2/5 antonio montagnani :
>> Antonio M wrote / ha scritto on /il 05/02/2009 16:19:
>>>
>>> 2009/2/5 Antonio M :
>>>
>
> and when I try to connect to Pubblici (one of my shares) I get:
> [2009/02/05 15:25:58,  0] smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(1156)
>  '/home/antonio/Pubblici' does not exist or permission denied when
> connecting to [Pubblici] Error was Permission denied
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
>
>

 Other info that can be useful to help

 smbclient //ACERF10/antonio
 Enter antonio's password:
 Anonymous login successful
 Domain=[WORKGROUP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.2.7-0.25.fc10]
 smb: \> dir
 NT_STATUS_NETWORK_ACCESS_DENIED listing \*

   0 blocks of size 0. 511 blocks available
 smb: \> help
 ?  allinfoaltnamearchiveblocksize
 cancel case_sensitive cd chmod  chown
 close  deldirdu echo
 exit   getgetfaclhardlink   help
 historyiosize lcdlink   lock
 lowercase  ls l  mask   md
 mget   mkdir  more   mput   newer
 open   posix  posix_encrypt  posix_open posix_mkdir
 posix_rmdirposix_unlink   print  prompt put
 pwdq  queue  quit   rd
 recursereget  rename reput  rm
 rmdir  showacls   setmodestat   symlink
 tartarmodetranslate  unlock volume
 vuid   wdel   logon  listconnectshowconnect
 .. !
 smb: \> ls
 NT_STATUS_NETWORK_ACCESS_DENIED listing \*


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 Antonio Montagnani
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>>>
>>>  and if I give also the password I get:
>>>
>>> $ smbclient //ACERF10/antonio
>>> Enter antonio's password:
>>> session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Now I have reissued the smbpasswd -a antonio
>>  smbclient //ACERF10/antonio
>> Enter antonio's password:
>> Domain=[ACERF10] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.2.7-0.25.fc10]
>> smb: \>
>>
>> i.e. now I can log in as antonio, and surf using smb commands
>> But if I use the graphic interface I still get the message that mounting of
>> folder is failed (and I am logged as antonio on same machine)...
>>
>> One little step ahead
>>
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>
> this is the screenshot of what I do...
>
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> Antonio Montagnani
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>

I issued this command as root:

  mount -t smbfs -o username=antonio //AcerF10/musica /home/antonio/sambabis
and I get:

mount: tipo di filesystem 'smbfs' sconosciuto
that means fylesystem type unknown!!!

What does it mean???

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