Re: Design Competitions [was Fwd: LIVE FOREVER: One month left for your chance at immortality]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Máirín Duffy a écrit : | Hi folks, | | Perhaps we're not quite ready this year, but something we | might want to think about in the future is submitting some | of our works to a big design competition like AIGA's annual | 365 design competition. If we were lucky enough to be | selected as a winner in a competition, it could help bring | some publicity to free openly-licensed artwork in a | mainstream venue. | | ~m Also think about Icograda (International Council of Graphic Designers Association) on which AIGA is part. Luya Ref: http://www.icograda.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmNTXIACgkQa10Jb0NOz+GwvgCdF46/+wfANN1H9Djg+DEpEwFA yyMAnjmudjfyyMgIKb2qVWSeFi9BL/Tl =6pNH -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
More Greek Wallpaper
Hi folks, (sorry for starting a new thread, I lost my old email so I had to start fresh this week) I just posted a new F11 wallpaper mockup: https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/0/0d/Artwork_F11_greek-concept_mockup2_mo.png It's more really an attempt at a nice backdrop, and maybe we can layer some of the trees and buildings we were talking about on top. What do you think? XCF: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Artwork_F11_greek-concept_mockup2_mo.xcf Both linked to from: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Artwork#Mock-ups ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Broken dependencies: tetex-fonts-hebrew
tetex-fonts-hebrew has broken dependencies in the development tree: On ppc: tetex-fonts-hebrew-0.1-9.fc10.noarch requires fonts-hebrew On x86_64: tetex-fonts-hebrew-0.1-9.fc10.noarch requires fonts-hebrew On i386: tetex-fonts-hebrew-0.1-9.fc10.noarch requires fonts-hebrew On ppc64: tetex-fonts-hebrew-0.1-9.fc10.noarch requires fonts-hebrew Please resolve this as soon as possible. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
Re: New fonts not on wishlist?
Stephen Carter wrote: Greetings, I just had a quick question: If I happen to stumble across a new font that isn't packaged yet, and isn't on the wishlist, would it be alright if I packaged it up? Or should just focus on stuff in the wishlist and try to clear up some of the backlog? The reason I asked was because someone on IRC gave this link to a font that doesn't appear on our wishlist, and appears to be brand-new: http://haikumonkey.net/?page_id=106 Maybe it can be added to the wishlist? Feel free to add it to the wishlist and package it up. Though a wishlist expresses desire on the part of users or another contributor, there is no compulsion on you to follow only the wishlist. As long as there are fonts that qualify (licensing etc), then you can very well package them up. Rahul ___ Fedora-fonts-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-list
Re: get Fedora puppet modules
Mike McGrath wrote: On Thu, 5 Feb 2009, Fabrizio Buratta wrote: Hi all! Is it possible to get the fedora infrastructure puppet modules? If so, how to get them? We don't currently publish them but we have plans to. If you're interested in specific modules let me know and I can make sure to get them to you. The main issue is ensuring they're properly sanatized. We used to store passwords in configs and manifests way back when. Also we do some things in a messy way still, I'd hate to give people the idea that its the right way to do it :) Could the effort of cleaning them up be aligned with development on commonly available modules, such as puppetmanaged.org (potentially move/copy the git repos for each module to fedorahosted infra?). Not only would I be very happy if that happens, it'd also mean a little more involvement in development of the Fedora Infra modules from my side. Kind regards, Jeroen van Meeuwen -kanarip ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Calendaring system?
On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 13:32 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: We have kind of a de facto no-Java standard in infrastructure. This is partially because none of us have had good experiences running apps in java and partially because we have noone with Java programming experience to fix things if we need to. If you had some people to give to us to work on maintaining the server we might be able to work out something similar to how zikula is being run for the docs deploy. But that doesn't sound like the case :-( No, I don't think so. So let's knock Bedework off the list for now, there do seem to be other viable alternatives. I like Clint's idea of a wiki page to set the requirements and evaluate alternatives, I will happily create / contribute to that next week once my brain is working again :), depending on whether Clint has got around to creating it by then. Added to my todo. -- adamw ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Multiple Workspace support in NVIDIA driver...
2009/2/6 Michael Comperchio mcmp...@gmail.com: hmmm... I may not quite have been clear... I'm getting older and, methinks, a little absentminded. I'd like to have different backgrounds on the different workspaces. I find it helpful to remember where I am and what I'm doing there. The last time I tried LINUX this was a possibility, but with all the improvements these days that ability seems to have gone away. try wallpapoz Michael -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to set up a DNS server(at Home)
Michael: Just a minor additional suggestion: since this is for a home network, you probably have DNS servers supplied by your ISP. You should configure your named server as a forwarder rather than doing your own full resolution, gms...@yahoo.com: After cat /etc/resolve.conf, got this:nameserver 203.88.111.18 nameserver 4.2.2.2 Should I replace 68.87.76.178; 68.87.78.130;with the values:203.88.111.18;4.2.2.2; Your /etc/resolv.conf file should have the IP address for your DNS server in there, an no external ones. And what does the forwarder do? The forwarder configuration option in the named.conf file gives the address for an external DNS server it'll query to answer anything that it can't answer itself. e.g. You ask your DNS server for the IP for google.com, and it doesn't have an answer for it. So, either it consults another DNS server listed as a forwarder, and gives you its answer. Or, if you don't have forwarders configured, it goes to the root servers, finds out where to make queries for .com, then finds out where to make queries for google.com, then asks that server for the IP for google.com. I'd only configure forwarders if your ISP had good DNS servers. Many don't, and that's *why* some of us run our own DNS servers. It's certainly been the case for me, over about three different ISPs, including two large national ISPs. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.12-78.2.8.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT - brain is melting...how is this temperature ?
On Sat, 2009-02-07 at 15:46 +1100, David Timms wrote: pps: currently 38.5 inside. I can't find the thermometer, but it would hit 50 inside my workshop on 30+ days. :-( It's been no fun in Adelaide, weather-wise, the last week or so. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.12-78.2.8.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to set up a DNS server(at Home)
On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 20:18:09 -0800, Michael Rohan mro...@stonepillar.com wrote: Just a minor additional suggestion: since this is for a home network, you probably have DNS servers supplied by your ISP. You should configure your named server as a forwarder rather than doing your own full resolution, That depends on the ISP. Some of them mess with the info. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Thunderbird not opening links
Hi List, Today I updated my system and in the process Firefox got updated to v3.0.6. But now when I am clicking links in Thunderbird, the open is failing. It seems that it is looking for Firefox v3.0.5, which is not present. [...] Error showing url: Failed to execute child process /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.5/firefox (No such file or directory) [...] Any ideas how thunderbird chooses its browser. I use KD-4.1.4 Thanks, Anoop -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Openswan: Works, but...
Am Samstag 07 Februar 2009 01:24:53 schrieb Mikkel L. Ellertson: Roger Grosswiler wrote: Dumb question - are you monitoring just the traffic across the host-to-host link, or are you also getting the local network traffic? Mikkel -- Hi Mikkel, i do on the client-machine a tcpdump -i eth1 - which is the only connected card (wireless). This shows, that connecting to my ipsec-enabled server only, traffic is in ESP, but surfing around doesn't. Default Gateway is the ipsed-enabled server. Roger This is definitely strange. I am going to have to think about this some more. It does not make sense... Mikkel ...and just to say, if i give firefox the ip-adress of the proxy, it works purely encrypted... route from client: 192.168.3.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 2 00 eth1 192.168.122.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 virbr0 0.0.0.0 192.168.3.100 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 eth1 192.168.3.100 is the ipsec-server. Thanks, Roger -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Thunderbird not opening links
Anoop wrote: Hi List, Today I updated my system and in the process Firefox got updated to v3.0.6. But now when I am clicking links in Thunderbird, the open is failing. It seems that it is looking for Firefox v3.0.5, which is not present. [...] Error showing url: Failed to execute child process /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.5/firefox (No such file or directory) [...] Any ideas how thunderbird chooses its browser. I use KD-4.1.4 Thanks, Anoop Yes, you need to change the location of firefox in prefs.js which is in the .thunderbird directory. -- Article. VI. Clause 3 of the constitution of the United States states: The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How can make my webcam visible everywhere?
Timothy Murphy wrote: I have a webcam (Linksys WVC54GCA) with IP address 192.168.2.141 , visible only on my home network 192.168.2.* . How can I make it visible on my web server outside my system? You don't say what protocol is used to access the webcam. But, in any event, this is normally accomplished by port forwarding. We don't know what the rest of your network looks like to complete the solution for you. So, the question would be what device on your network has the true internet IP address? If it is a DSL router or some such device they have port forwarding capabilities builtin. If your Linux box acts as the firewall/router/NAT then you need to configure iptables to do the port forwarding for you. -- Make it right before you make it faster. mei-mei.gres...@greshko.com http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=cCSz_koUhSg signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Thunderbird not opening links
Anoop wrote: Hi List, Today I updated my system and in the process Firefox got updated to v3.0.6. But now when I am clicking links in Thunderbird, the open is failing. It seems that it is looking for Firefox v3.0.5, which is not present. [...] Error showing url: Failed to execute child process /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.5/firefox (No such file or directory) [...] Any ideas how thunderbird chooses its browser. I use KD-4.1.4 Thanks, Anoop Opps - I meant in the file user.js instead of prefs.js. -- Article. VI. Clause 3 of the constitution of the United States states: The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Thunderbird not opening links
Opps - I meant in the file user.js I am not able to find this file. -Anoop instead of prefs.js. -- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Xemacs over ssh tunnel question
On 02/03/2009 06:32 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org writes: My Desktop system at work is an HP Integrity (IA64) with Fedora 9 and a GNOME desktop. Because I do a lot of compiling under xemacs, I ssh -X to a RHEL 5.2 system to run xemacs. Under RHEL 4, everything worked fine, but under RHEL 5.2 I am unable to click on any buttons on a dialog box. Everything else works fine. Maybe you need ssh -Y? (Although you really putting your trust in the remote system's security if you do that.) Possibly, but the 2 systems are on the same subnet, although separated by a switch. However, I installed RHEL 5.1 on the workstation, and xemacs over and ssh tunnel works fine. The bottom line is that the problem is solved. -- Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org Boston Linux and Unix PGP key id: 537C5846 PGP Key fingerprint: 3D1B 8377 A3C0 A5F2 ECBB CA3B 4607 4319 537C 5846 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Passing USB into a KVM/QEMU VM F10
Has anyone had any success in passing a USB into a KVM virtual machine. More specifically, I would like to be able to sync by blackberry. I have Windows XP and Windows Vista guest OS's. Not a biggie as I can dump them and use Virtualbox that I have installed on my laptop. I have not figured out how to recognize the USB on VB (2.1) yet either, but that is more RTFM. -- Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org Boston Linux and Unix PGP key id: 537C5846 PGP Key fingerprint: 3D1B 8377 A3C0 A5F2 ECBB CA3B 4607 4319 537C 5846 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: thunderbird not opening links
Harry R. wrote: Agile, can you give the exact location of user.js in .thunderbird? ls -laR grep user.js reveals nothing. H. Try $HOME/.thunderbird/some random string.default/user.js If there's no file there, then create it with the following contents user_pref(network.protocol-handler.app.https,/usr/lib64/firefox-3.0.6/firefox); user_pref(network.protocol-handler.app.http,/usr/lib64/firefox-3.0.6/firefox); user_pref(network.protocol-handler.app.ftp,/usr/lib64/firefox-3.0.6/firefox); -- Article. VI. Clause 3 of the constitution of the United States states: The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: thunderbird not opening links
Harry R. wrote: Agile, can you give the exact location of user.js in .thunderbird? ls -laR grep user.js reveals nothing. H. This is what I have in user.js that goes into Default firefox as a textfile, user.js, you put it into the folder that has a pref.js file. If you dont use thunderbird , Edit in for your web browser and path. user_pref(network.protocol-handler.app.mailto,/usr/bin/thunderbird); user_pref(browser.tabs.showSingleWindowModePrefs, true) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How can make my webcam visible everywhere?
Ed Greshko wrote: I have a webcam (Linksys WVC54GCA) with IP address 192.168.2.141 , visible only on my home network 192.168.2.* . How can I make it visible on my web server outside my system? You don't say what protocol is used to access the webcam. Thanks for your response. The webcam image is seen through my web-browser, so I guess the protocol is http . But, in any event, this is normally accomplished by port forwarding. We don't know what the rest of your network looks like to complete the solution for you. So, the question would be what device on your network has the true internet IP address? If it is a DSL router or some such device they have port forwarding capabilities builtin. If your Linux box acts as the firewall/router/NAT then you need to configure iptables to do the port forwarding for you. My internet connection and web server has internal address 192.168.2.2 . I'm running shorewall as firewall on this server. I have IP_FORWARDING=On in shorewall.conf . I'm not sure what line to add to rules, or what address I would give from outside my system to access the webcam. Any suggestions gratefully received. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
just got a notice of files to be updated
however yum update yielded nothing. The notice was a little red window out of the lower right of the dektop. I did a yum clean all but still no update. I tried this last night and today. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Assert error from Latest Firefox (just update)
Yum updated to Firefox this morning (firefox-3.0.6-1.fc9.i386) on my F9 system (fully updated) and now I'm getting a dialog box that shows the following info every time the browser is started. The browser comes up but throws this assert. My error or there? Thanks, ~~R ASSERT: *** Search: _installLocation: engine has no file! Stack Trace: 0:ENSURE_WARN(false,_installLocation: engine has no file!,2147500037) 1:() 2:() 3:() 4:epsGetAttr([object Object],hidden) 5:() 6:() 7:currentEngine() 8:get_currentEngine() 9:updateDisplay() 10:init() 11:([object XULElement],0) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Passing USB into a KVM/QEMU VM F10
Sir, I just copied fedora 10 from my friends dvd insted of burning it to dvd. So I just have copied files in my computer. I know it can't boot. Please tell me how i can make create bootable dvd of these copied files. thankyou -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Assert error from Latest Firefox (just update)
On Sat, 2009-02-07 at 08:32 -0800, Richard England wrote: Yum updated to Firefox this morning (firefox-3.0.6-1.fc9.i386) on my F9 system (fully updated) and now I'm getting a dialog box that shows the following info every time the browser is started. The browser comes up but throws this assert. My error or there? Thanks, ~~R ASSERT: *** Search: _installLocation: engine has no file! Stack Trace: 0:ENSURE_WARN(false,_installLocation: engine has no file!,2147500037) 1:() 2:() 3:() 4:epsGetAttr([object Object],hidden) 5:() 6:() 7:currentEngine() 8:get_currentEngine() 9:updateDisplay() 10:init() 11:([object XULElement],0) cuz FF was updated and it needs to be closed and opened again. Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Assert error from Latest Firefox (just update)
Hmmm. That was it but it was confusing since there was no outward appearing Firefox sessions. I had 4 workspaces available and none of them had a visible firefox session in them. ps -aef | grep firefox turned one up though. Thank you Craig. ~~R Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2009-02-07 at 08:32 -0800, Richard England wrote: Yum updated to Firefox this morning (firefox-3.0.6-1.fc9.i386) on my F9 system (fully updated) and now I'm getting a dialog box that shows the following info every time the browser is started. The browser comes up but throws this assert. My error or theirs? Thanks, ~~R ASSERT: *** Search: _installLocation: engine has no file! Stack Trace: 0:ENSURE_WARN(false,_installLocation: engine has no file!,2147500037) 1:() 2:() 3:() 4:epsGetAttr([object Object],hidden) 5:() 6:() 7:currentEngine() 8:get_currentEngine() 9:updateDisplay() 10:init() 11:([object XULElement],0) cuz FF was updated and it needs to be closed and opened again. Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
fedora live dvd
Sir, I just copied fedora 10 from my friends dvd insted of burning it to dvd. So I just have copied files in my computer. I know it can't boot. Please tell me how i can make create bootable dvd of these copied files. thankyou -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora live dvd
On Sat, 07 Feb 2009 23:17:45 +0530 shivam tiwari wrote: I just copied fedora 10 from my friends dvd insted of burning it to dvd. So I just have copied files in my computer. I know it can't boot. Please tell me how i can make create bootable dvd of these copied files. There is a subdirectory named images on the dvd, under which you will find boot.iso You can create a bootable cd from the boot.iso image and use that to install Fedora. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com DRY CLEANER BUSINESS FOR SALE ~ http://www.canadadrycleanerforsale.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F10: gnucash - white space in reports
I have just noticed this. Trying to generate reports with gnucash now outputs a large amount of white space after the report title and before the report detail. This white space can be several pages in length. This has started within the last month. I am using Fedora 10, and I have all updates applied including the gnucash update to 2.2.8-2 on Jan 7, 2009. I install the previous version of gnucash 2.2.7 on another F10 computer and also see the larger amount of white space in the reports. This makes me think it is related to one of the dependencies of gnucash. Has anyone else noticed the same problem? Has anyone been able to print reports without the white space since the last gnucash update? Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
dvipdfm
Hi list I use dvipdfm to translate a dvi figure to pdf. I want to ask which option shall I use to embbed the font in the pdf file? Regards Adel -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address BP 108, Bureau de poste Tunis republique 1001 Tunis Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 fax: +216 71 391 166 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: dvipdfm
Adel ESSAFI wrote: I use dvipdfm to translate a dvi figure to pdf. I want to ask which option shall I use to embbed the font in the pdf file? It doesn't do that by default? -- Rex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora live dvd
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 9:47 AM, shivam tiwari bigbang...@gmail.com wrote: Sir, I just copied fedora 10 from my friends dvd insted of burning it to dvd. So I just have copied files in my computer. I know it can't boot. Please tell me how i can make create bootable dvd of these copied files. thankyou See this tutorial on using k3b. Choose Burn DVD ISO image http://www.raiden.net/?cat=2aid=518 if you don't have k3b do sudo yum install k3b ~af -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: dvipdfm
when I print the proprities of the file, the path of the fonts are showed!! I think that it does mean that the font are not embbedded? Am I right? Regards 2009/2/7 Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu Adel ESSAFI wrote: I use dvipdfm to translate a dvi figure to pdf. I want to ask which option shall I use to embbed the font in the pdf file? It doesn't do that by default? -- Rex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address BP 108, Bureau de poste Tunis republique 1001 Tunis Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 fax: +216 71 391 166 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Passing USB into a KVM/QEMU VM F10
Jerry Feldman wrote: Has anyone had any success in passing a USB into a KVM virtual machine. More specifically, I would like to be able to sync by blackberry. I have Windows XP and Windows Vista guest OS's. Not a biggie as I can dump them and use Virtualbox that I have installed on my laptop. I have not figured out how to recognize the USB on VB (2.1) yet either, but that is more RTFM. Yes, no worries. plug in your BlackBerry and run lsusb to see the id numbers. For instance: on my system: ... Bus 001 Device 016: ID 0424:2228 Standard Microsystems Corp. 9-in-2 Card Reader ... If I wanted to give a VM access to my card reader, I would append the following to the qemu-kvm command line: -usbdevice 0424:2228 Thats it. See the qemu-kvm man pages. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How can make my webcam visible everywhere?
On Saturday 07 February 2009 10:27:43 Timothy Murphy wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: I have a webcam (Linksys WVC54GCA) with IP address 192.168.2.141 , visible only on my home network 192.168.2.* . How can I make it visible on my web server outside my system? snip My internet connection and web server has internal address 192.168.2.2 . I'm running shorewall as firewall on this server. I have IP_FORWARDING=On in shorewall.conf . Few things I'm not clear: 1. Is your box that have Shorewall also act as the router to the rest of internal network ? (i.e does the cable from your modem box plug in directly to this box?) 2. Do you want both from your web server _and_ your webcam to be viewable from the outside world ? Most people only have one public IP address from the internet provider. So if you want to serve both your web and your webcam that both uses HTTP protocol, you have to use different port from outside world that routes to different thing (i.e your web server and your webcam). You can check public ip address here: http://www.whatismyip.com/). So for example, you can have the default http://your public IP routes to your web server, and http://your public ip: routes to your webcam (the : means port ). To do this with shorewall, look at the IP Forwarding section in its documentation. Hope that helps. RDB -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: NVRM bug on Nvidia-173xx driver
I found out that it seems the graphic card is faulty. Swapping the card to a different want seems to get rid of these messages and makes the system more stable. RDB On Wednesday 04 February 2009 08:00:31 RDB wrote: Hello, Sorry this is not strictly Fedora package, but I was hoping someone could help. I have NVidia Ge Force FX 5500. I use the proprietary NVidia driver to get 3D acceleration. However, I get glitches, a lot of them, especially when playing movie is the most noticeable. Sometime the screen locks up too. Checking the kernel log, I see this: Feb 4 07:45:10 defiant kernel: NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 13, 0002 beef3097 3497 0900 30d410d0 0004 Feb 4 07:46:06 defiant kernel: NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 9, Channel 0003 Instance 7100 status 001d Feb 4 07:46:58 defiant kernel: NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 13, 01016100 008a 0300 02b20130 0002 Feb 4 07:48:58 defiant kernel: NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 9, Channel Instance 6274 status 001d Feb 4 07:49:37 defiant kernel: NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 4, Channel -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
X-Display issues
I have been struggling over the X-Display system. I have an Nvidia chipset, not that it may matter. When I originally installed F10, I was able to get the X-display (but there was no xorg.conf file) and the screen appeared to look high resolution, but the screen size appeared to look like a 1600x1200 but was only covering only 2/3 of the screen monitor. Along with that, there were white horizontal flickering lines appearing randomly in a vertical column, just to the right of center. I suspected that the problem is the vertical refresh rate, set too high for my monitor. But setting this value is not possible, afaik, with the system-config-display tool. I found somewhere that there is also an x display helper tool that allows one to set the vertical refresh on the fly (against I forget what it was), and set the value to 75Hz and it worked. My display screen covered 100% of my monitor screen so I know that I need a tool to set the vertical refresh rate permanently. I also know that there is an alternate gui tool available that allows me to permanently set the vertical refresh rate, but I cannot recall what it is. Can someone remind me what it is? Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How can make my webcam visible everywhere?
Timothy Murphy wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: I have a webcam (Linksys WVC54GCA) with IP address 192.168.2.141 , visible only on my home network 192.168.2.* . How can I make it visible on my web server outside my system? You don't say what protocol is used to access the webcam. Thanks for your response. The webcam image is seen through my web-browser, so I guess the protocol is http . But, in any event, this is normally accomplished by port forwarding. We don't know what the rest of your network looks like to complete the solution for you. So, the question would be what device on your network has the true internet IP address? If it is a DSL router or some such device they have port forwarding capabilities builtin. If your Linux box acts as the firewall/router/NAT then you need to configure iptables to do the port forwarding for you. My internet connection and web server has internal address 192.168.2.2 . I'm running shorewall as firewall on this server. I have IP_FORWARDING=On in shorewall.conf . I'm not sure what line to add to rules, or what address I would give from outside my system to access the webcam. Any suggestions gratefully received. Well, you haven't quite answered the question. You are running shorewall...and your internal IP address is 192.168.2.2. This is what can be called an RFC-1918 and can't be directly accessed from the internet. Can we assume that your system has two interfaces? One with a non-RFC-1918 address? If so...then the best thing you can do is head over to http://www.shorewall.net/ and go to Documentation, pick the version you are running and go to Index and then Port Forwarding as this will explain what you need in better words than I could. -- I want to kill everyone here with a cute colorful Hydrogen Bomb!! mei-mei.gres...@greshko.com http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=cCSz_koUhSg signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: XFCE depends on GNOME, why?
Kevin Fenzi wrote: gdm is a big one. It now basically requires a gnome desktop to work. Perhaps we should look at pulling in kdm for Xfce. ;) Well, then you'll need at least kdelibs, probably kdebase-runtime and oxygen-icon-theme too (and all that stuff is pretty large). :-( KDM doesn't spawn an almost complete KDE desktop like GDM does with GNOME, but it does need the KDE libraries. We'd also have to split it out of kdebase-workspace for you - I don't think you want all of kdebase-workspace on the XFCE spin. ;-) I guess porting my KDM ConsoleKit patch (which now got accepted into KDE upstream, but the patch can be extracted from KDE SVN) to one of the lightweight display managers and then using that as the default would be the best approach for you in the long run. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Ran out of disk space during yum update
Dennis Kaptain wrote: a simple script that takes a long time but uses ABSOLUTE minimal space It's not absolute minimal, you'd have to do it in a specific order (which is extremely hard to compute) to use absolute minimal space. (In theory, reverse dependency order would be it for installations, but for upgrades a reverse dependency can also force an upgrade, so it's not quite that obvious, and even for installations, there are circular dependencies meaning the reverse dependency order does not actually exist.) Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How can make my webcam visible everywhere?
Ed Greshko wrote: Timothy Murphy wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: I have a webcam (Linksys WVC54GCA) with IP address 192.168.2.141 , visible only on my home network 192.168.2.* . How can I make it visible on my web server outside my system? You don't say what protocol is used to access the webcam. Thanks for your response. The webcam image is seen through my web-browser, so I guess the protocol is http . But, in any event, this is normally accomplished by port forwarding. We don't know what the rest of your network looks like to complete the solution for you. So, the question would be what device on your network has the true internet IP address? If it is a DSL router or some such device they have port forwarding capabilities builtin. If your Linux box acts as the firewall/router/NAT then you need to configure iptables to do the port forwarding for you. My internet connection and web server has internal address 192.168.2.2 . I'm running shorewall as firewall on this server. I have IP_FORWARDING=On in shorewall.conf . I'm not sure what line to add to rules, or what address I would give from outside my system to access the webcam. Any suggestions gratefully received. Well, you haven't quite answered the question. You are running shorewall...and your internal IP address is 192.168.2.2. This is what can be called an RFC-1918 and can't be directly accessed from the internet. Can we assume that your system has two interfaces? One with a non-RFC-1918 address? If so...then the best thing you can do is head over to http://www.shorewall.net/ and go to Documentation, pick the version you are running and go to Index and then Port Forwarding as this will explain what you need in better words than I could. Oh Forgot to mention that if your network is as described then you have one minor problem if your shorewall machine is also your web server. Both the webcam and your webserver use http and thus both port 80. If that is the case then you can either put the webcam on a different port and use http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:XXX addressing. Where xxx is your server's name or internet IP and XX is a port other than 80 that isn't being used. There are other optionsbut that is the easiest. -- He who hates vices hates mankind. mei-mei.gres...@greshko.com http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=cCSz_koUhSg signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: KDE 3.5 in Fedora 10
Jay Mistry wrote: Is there a way to install KDE 3.5 in Fedora 10, and also keep KDE 4.2/ or with removal of KDE 4.2 ? No. Well, not unless you compile 3.5.10 completely on your own into your own prefix, and I'd not want to deal with the resulting mess (including poor system integration and conflicts with our system-provided KDE 4 and KDE 3 compatibility (kdelibs3 etc.) packages). You'll have to just get used to KDE 4. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: X-Display issues [SOLVED]
Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I have been struggling over the X-Display system. I have an Nvidia chipset, not that it may matter. When I originally installed F10, I was able to get the X-display (but there was no xorg.conf file) and the screen appeared to look high resolution, but the screen size appeared to look like a 1600x1200 but was only covering only 2/3 of the screen monitor. Along with that, there were white horizontal flickering lines appearing randomly in a vertical column, just to the right of center. I suspected that the problem is the vertical refresh rate, set too high for my monitor. But setting this value is not possible, afaik, with the system-config-display tool. I found somewhere that there is also an x display helper tool that allows one to set the vertical refresh on the fly (against I forget what it was), and set the value to 75Hz and it worked. My display screen covered 100% of my monitor screen so I know that I need a tool to set the vertical refresh rate permanently. I also know that there is an alternate gui tool available that allows me to permanently set the vertical refresh rate, but I cannot recall what it is. Can someone remind me what it is? Thanks! Dan Never mind. I figured it out. I needed to create the xorg.conf file and limit the vertical refresh rate therein. I believe that at installation time, the setup tool somehow could not determine the monitor I was using (it was initially `unknown') and xrandr tried to calculate the vrr a bit too high for the monitor (Hitachi CM813). So I limited the range from 50.0 to 85.0 and everything is working well. Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f11 alpha x86_64 live KDE image too large to fit on CD?
Robert P. J. Day wrote: that has to be awfully close to the maximum capacity. is that really too large? and why put out an image that just ever so slightly goes over the limit? or am i misreading something? Settings / Configure K3b... Advanced [x] Allow overburning (not supported by cdrecord = 1.10) OK and you should be good to go. This should probably be added to the wiki. I wonder if we should set this option by default in kde-settings. As for why we didn't just make it fit the limit: our live CD maintainer was extremely busy and he didn't have much time to work on the live image in the short time frame leading to the alpha. He did make one adjustment to try to reach the target size, but it was still slightly over the limit. I was also extremely busy (and I also have no experience with spinning live images, which is needed to test what size they result in), so I wasn't able to help. We will try to make it fit into whatever K3b and/or wodim thinks is the maximum size (is it 700*1024*1024 bytes? Or something close to that? I'll have to check) for the beta. (Sigh, having to cut off useful applications to stay within an arbitrary limit which can usually be overburned anyway is frustrating. I'd even argue we should actually make the images intentionally slightly oversized, but I guess my suggestion won't get much sympathy.) Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Looking for three FC10 RPMs
I'm looking for three FC10 RPMs, I'm trying to install gscrot-0.64~ppa12-1.fc10.noarch.rpm it is a frontend for scrot that is in the Fedora FC10 repos perl-Gnome2-Wnck perl-Goo-Canvas perl-Image-Magick The three rpms are not located on the Fedora or RpmFusion repos. I checked rpm.pbone.net and they don't have ones for FC10 . Any Ideals ?, Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Network Manager, Firefox and more on FC10
--- On Wed, 1/7/09, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: My understanding is that if you install from 'Live CD' or if you choose DHCP for network configuration when installing from DVD, NetworkManager is enabled, otherwise, it is not enabled. That seems to be very reasonable logic from my standpoint but I can see that those who just race/clickthrough the install figuring that they'll fix things after first boot will get some surprises. I know I'm coming in a little late on this thread, but this comment caught my eye. The installer (I use the DVD) doesn't seem to offer networking setup any more, which I chalked up to the evolution toward NM. I thought it was a little too Winduhs-like to assume that the user would use DHCP. I've installed F10 several times now-- where am I missing network setup? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Network Manager, Firefox and more on FC10
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Bob Kinney bc98kin...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Wed, 1/7/09, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: My understanding is that if you install from 'Live CD' or if you choose DHCP for network configuration when installing from DVD, NetworkManager is enabled, otherwise, it is not enabled. That seems to be very reasonable logic from my standpoint but I can see that those who just race/clickthrough the install figuring that they'll fix things after first boot will get some surprises. I know I'm coming in a little late on this thread, but this comment caught my eye. The installer (I use the DVD) doesn't seem to offer networking setup any more, which I chalked up to the evolution toward NM. I thought it was a little too Winduhs-like to assume that the user would use DHCP. I've installed F10 several times now-- where am I missing network setup? I insttalled F10 on a test box this week via LiveCD and there was no network setup. I was able to do what ever setup I needed once I logged in however. -- Fedora 9 : sulphur is good for the skin ( www.pembo13.com ) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f11 alpha x86_64 live KDE image too large to fit on CD?
--- On Sat, 2/7/09, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: From: Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at Subject: Re: f11 alpha x86_64 live KDE image too large to fit on CD? To: fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Saturday, February 7, 2009, 5:01 PM Robert P. J. Day wrote: that has to be awfully close to the maximum capacity. is that really too large? and why put out an image that just ever so slightly goes over the limit? or am i misreading something? Settings / Configure K3b... Advanced [x] Allow overburning (not supported by cdrecord = 1.10) OK and you should be good to go. This should probably be added to the wiki. I wonder if we should set this option by default in kde-settings. As for why we didn't just make it fit the limit: our live CD maintainer was extremely busy and he didn't have much time to work on the live image in the short time frame leading to the alpha. He did make one adjustment to try to reach the target size, but it was still slightly over the limit. I was also extremely busy (and I also have no experience with spinning live images, which is needed to test what size they result in), so I wasn't able to help. We will try to make it fit into whatever K3b and/or wodim thinks is the maximum size (is it 700*1024*1024 bytes? Or something close to that? I'll have to check) for the beta. (Sigh, having to cut off useful applications to stay within an arbitrary limit which can usually be overburned anyway is frustrating. I'd even argue we should actually make the images intentionally slightly oversized, but I guess my suggestion won't get much sympathy.) Kevin Kofler -- How about a live dvd with all/most DE in place, GNOME, KDE, XFCE, and LXDE as well. That would be better download all the possibilities in one DVD. This would make a one size fits all mentality, otherwise put in a usb drive with the capacity to boot it with a specialized cd to boot usb drives(when the bios does not work, and user does not have a dvd drive). Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
I do not understand how Fedora expects you to upgrade or reinstall every 6 months or so. This is just not right. Should a distro keep continuing to make you install every six months, if so, I would rather use Microsoft. Why not provide updates, major ones, to the already installed OS instead of having to reinstall a new OS!!! I imagine that this, if done in an organized way, could be easier on the developers of Fedora. INSTEAD OF MAKING CONSUMERS INSTALL EVERY SIX MONTHS OR UNTIL THE UPDATES STOP, JUST PROVIDE LARGE UPDATES THAT UPGRADE A SYSTEM WITHOUT HAVING TO DO A COMPLETELY NEW INSTALL??? THEN YOU WILL HAVE A LARGER FAN BASE AND A MORE STABLE OS!!! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 21:13:21 -0500, Mike Chalmers mikechalmer...@gmail.com wrote: I do not understand how Fedora expects you to upgrade or reinstall every 6 months or so. This is just not right. If this is a problem for you, you are using the wrong Distro. You should try something like CentOS or one of the LTS versions of Ubuntu. INSTEAD OF MAKING CONSUMERS INSTALL EVERY SIX MONTHS OR UNTIL THE UPDATES STOP, JUST PROVIDE LARGE UPDATES THAT UPGRADE A SYSTEM WITHOUT HAVING TO DO A COMPLETELY NEW INSTALL??? You can upgrade with an install disk instead of doing a fresh install. You can also use yum or preupgrade. However, you need to do some stuff manually afterwards, so it isn't completely hands off. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
--- On Sat, 2/7/09, Mike Chalmers mikechalmer...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mike Chalmers mikechalmer...@gmail.com Subject: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!! To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Saturday, February 7, 2009, 6:13 PM I do not understand how Fedora expects you to upgrade or reinstall every 6 months or so. This is just not right. Should a distro keep continuing to make you install every six months, if so, I would rather use Microsoft. Why not provide updates, major ones, to the already installed OS instead of having to reinstall a new OS!!! I imagine that this, if done in an organized way, could be easier on the developers of Fedora. INSTEAD OF MAKING CONSUMERS INSTALL EVERY SIX MONTHS OR UNTIL THE UPDATES STOP, JUST PROVIDE LARGE UPDATES THAT UPGRADE A SYSTEM WITHOUT HAVING TO DO A COMPLETELY NEW INSTALL??? THEN YOU WILL HAVE A LARGER FAN BASE AND A MORE STABLE OS!!! -- While a part of me AGREES with you, there is another part of me that I already run a version of Fedora that does this for me and I have been running it for a good time, on occasions things break, but there a great number of helpful people and things get back on track. I do not worry about having to install every six months because I get updates almost on a daily basis. I run Fedora rawhide(*except on weekends where it can be Fedora 9, Fedora 10, Slax or Slackware at home). Otherwise I cannot complain about the updates. I save the information that is important to me, and I try to reinstall the latest one. I try to enjoy Linux to the max. I feel for you in the other way bevause Red Hat had this going for many users, but then they turned around and changed the infrastructure to make a business version and this version which forces the users to do as you suggest. While you can wait longer(1 year), still things are alright :) Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote: On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 21:13:21 -0500, Mike Chalmers mikechalmer...@gmail.com wrote: I do not understand how Fedora expects you to upgrade or reinstall every 6 months or so. This is just not right. You are not alone: http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/273956/open_source_identity_linux_founder_linus_torvalds?pp=3 -- Paulo Roma Cavalcanti LCG - UFRJ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
Try CentOS, it is the free version of Red Hat Enterprise Linux. Fedora has always had a rapid release cycle. The Red Hat backing, the Fedora community and the rapid releases are why I use it. I'm always excited when a new releases come out because it often means new features to play with which in turn can make my work life easier. Bob Cochran Mike Chalmers wrote: I do not understand how Fedora expects you to upgrade or reinstall every 6 months or so. This is just not right. Should a distro keep continuing to make you install every six months, if so, I would rather use Microsoft. Why not provide updates, major ones, to the already installed OS instead of having to reinstall a new OS!!! I imagine that this, if done in an organized way, could be easier on the developers of Fedora. INSTEAD OF MAKING CONSUMERS INSTALL EVERY SIX MONTHS OR UNTIL THE UPDATES STOP, JUST PROVIDE LARGE UPDATES THAT UPGRADE A SYSTEM WITHOUT HAVING TO DO A COMPLETELY NEW INSTALL??? THEN YOU WILL HAVE A LARGER FAN BASE AND A MORE STABLE OS!!! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
Mike Chalmers wrote: I do not understand how Fedora expects you to upgrade or reinstall every 6 months or so. This is just not right. Should a distro keep continuing to make you install every six months, if so, I would rather use Microsoft. Why not provide updates, major ones, to the already installed OS instead of having to reinstall a new OS!!! I imagine that this, if done in an organized way, could be easier on the developers of Fedora. INSTEAD OF MAKING CONSUMERS INSTALL EVERY SIX MONTHS OR UNTIL THE UPDATES STOP, JUST PROVIDE LARGE UPDATES THAT UPGRADE A SYSTEM WITHOUT HAVING TO DO A COMPLETELY NEW INSTALL??? THEN YOU WILL HAVE A LARGER FAN BASE AND A MORE STABLE OS!!! On Saturday 07 February 2009 22:26:17 Robert L Cochran wrote: Try CentOS, it is the free version of Red Hat Enterprise Linux. yes, use CentOS. Fedora has always had a rapid release cycle. The Red Hat backing, the Fedora community and the rapid releases are why I use it. I second that! I'm always excited when a new releases come out because it often means new features to play with which in turn can make my work life easier. Long live Fedora Bob Cochran Actually I should add that 6 month seems a long time for me to wait for a new release, so I go on rawhide about 2 months before the release! So long life support for Fedora really doesn't make sense, and it would be a detriment to the innovation of the community and it would take so much developer time to continue updates for a 2-year-old version. And I'm sure you understand that that developer time is better spent somewhere else. -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
On Sat, 2009-02-07 at 21:13 -0500, Mike Chalmers wrote: I do not understand how Fedora expects you to upgrade or reinstall every 6 months or so. This is just not right. Should a distro keep continuing to make you install every six months, if so, I would rather use Microsoft. Why not provide updates, major ones, to the already installed OS instead of having to reinstall a new OS!!! I imagine that this, if done in an organized way, could be easier on the developers of Fedora. INSTEAD OF MAKING CONSUMERS INSTALL EVERY SIX MONTHS OR UNTIL THE UPDATES STOP, JUST PROVIDE LARGE UPDATES THAT UPGRADE A SYSTEM WITHOUT HAVING TO DO A COMPLETELY NEW INSTALL??? THEN YOU WILL HAVE A LARGER FAN BASE AND A MORE STABLE OS!!! Hi Mike, There's a few things to note: - Updates are available for 2 releases plus one month. You can update once a year and stay current with Fedora. - The preupgrade package enables you to upgrade from one Fedora release to another without reinstalling (though your mileage may vary). - For long-term support, there's RHEL and CentOS (both are based on Fedora technology) -- you can reinstall just twice a decade. - Releasing every 6 months helps Fedora fulfill its goal of driving the rapid development of open source. -- Chris -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Ran out of disk space during yum update
Dennis Kaptain wrote: a simple script that takes a long time but uses ABSOLUTE minimal space It's not absolute minimal, you'd have to do it in a specific order (which is extremely hard to compute) to use absolute minimal space. (In theory, reverse dependency order would be it for installations, but for upgrades a reverse dependency can also force an upgrade, so it's not quite that obvious, and even for installations, there are circular dependencies meaning the reverse dependency order does not actually exist.) Kevin Kofler Thank you Kevin. You are right about that. It is not absolute minimal space. It is however the least I can figure out to use and should work in all but the most dire circumstances. If you don't have enough disk space to yum update one package (+ dependencies) at a time, you need to re-examine your partitioning scheme. Dennis K __ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! Regístrate ya - http://correo.yahoo.com.mx/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
Chris Tyler wrote: - The preupgrade package enables you to upgrade from one Fedora release to another without reinstalling (though your mileage may vary). And alternatively, you can even get away with upgrading with yum (or another depsolver) directly on the running system. It is not the recommended method and it is not as reliable, but all the updates I did with yum or apt-rpm just worked. YMMV. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
Mike Chalmers wrote: I do not understand how Fedora expects you to upgrade or reinstall every 6 months or so. Actually, Fedora does not expect anything from you. From an FAQ... Fedora is all about freedom and rapid innovation. From that, and other places, one can glean that in order to fulfill the rapid innovation part an end-user can expect to do some work to maintain the rapid innovation part. This is just not right. I feel you really mean, even though you don't realize it, that Fedora is not the right Linux Distro for me. Should a distro keep continuing to make you install every six months, if so, I would rather use Microsoft. Why not provide updates, major ones, to the already installed OS instead of having to reinstall a new OS!!! I imagine that this, if done in an organized way, could be easier on the developers of Fedora. INSTEAD OF MAKING CONSUMERS INSTALL EVERY SIX MONTHS OR UNTIL THE UPDATES STOP, JUST PROVIDE LARGE UPDATES THAT UPGRADE A SYSTEM WITHOUT HAVING TO DO A COMPLETELY NEW INSTALL??? THEN YOU WILL HAVE A LARGER FAN BASE AND A MORE STABLE OS!!! I don't understand the need to shout It just seems that fedora's stated goals/philosophies differ from yours. I'd suggest that rather than trying to will fedora into your line of thinking you should consider picking another distribution that more closely matches your goals and philosophies. I suspect that more than a few are quite happy with the general goals and philosophies of fedora and would fight you tooth and nail if you tried to change it. FWIW, I've never seen or heard that one of fedora's goals was to become the Linux distro with the largest fan base. :-) Feel free to adopt the suggestions of others. FWIW, I'm happy with what fedora is doing yet I wouldn't consider using it for what I consider to be production. -- The opinions expressed above have been randomly generated and are the sole responsibility of the haze in which I live. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
I can't wait for the new programs and features, so I migrate to the alpha release as soon as it comes out, just to get it sooner. As a result, I am still upgrading twice a year, but just a few months before most. I have always done clean installs, but a week ago, I tried preupgrade, which worked satisfactorily (I don't think I will preupgrade twice, however, as some .stuff from old installs seems to get left over in /home). The technical savvy of this distro is why I have stuck with it for over a decade. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Petrus de Calguarium kwhisk...@gmail.com wrote: I can't wait for the new programs and features, so I migrate to the alpha release as soon as it comes out, just to get it sooner. As a result, I am still upgrading twice a year, but just a few months before most. I have always done clean installs, but a week ago, I tried preupgrade, which worked satisfactorily (I don't think I will preupgrade twice, however, as some .stuff from old installs seems to get left over in /home). The technical savvy of this distro is why I have stuck with it for over a decade. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Neither can I wait for new programs or features, :-)! My point is that instead of requiring you to install or do some kind of a risky yum upgrade (as someone mentioned above, and most likely the drivers you may have installed may have to be replaced) to get the newest software, WHY NOT JUST PROVIDE UPDATES FOR THE LATEST SOFTWARE? You can all rail against me, which I expected, but I was just trying to make a point because I like Fedora! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 22:51:04 -0500, Mike Chalmers mikechalmer...@gmail.com wrote: Neither can I wait for new programs or features, :-)! My point is that instead of requiring you to install or do some kind of a risky yum upgrade (as someone mentioned above, and most likely the drivers you may have installed may have to be replaced) to get the newest software, WHY NOT JUST PROVIDE UPDATES FOR THE LATEST SOFTWARE? Because then you have the risky yum update problem. To a large extent that is what differentiates the releases. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
I don't understand the need to shout I would have liked to type out a long well written email. I shouldn't have made it seem like I was shouting. I have been using Fedora for about 4 years now, and have tried to be tolerant. The reason why I have been using Fedora all this time is because, I love the community, I love the help, I love the organization of the project, CCRMA, etc. I just don't like the bleeding edge software being released in the new OS, it causes things to be unstable, etc. I don't understand why they don't provide updates instead of COMPLETE INSTALLS, for the new and BEST software. Best Regards, Mike -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Problems with recording sound
Hi All, I am facing problem in recording sound. When I start Sound Recorder, I get the following message: Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the Multimedia settings. Thanks, Rajan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
first off all thanks for reply i just want to know how browse internet in cdma wll phone in fedora i 'm fail to start requiring divers is second issue -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
I DID NOT want to make this post sounding like I am so right, because I know that all the programmers, Linux gurus, etc., know far more then me. There must be someway to fix a situation, that needs to be fixed though. I just don't understand why they do not provide updates which I could imagine they could do instead of releasing a completely knew OS??? Again, sorry for the initial yelling. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
first off all thanks for reply i just want to know how browse internet in cdma wll phone in fedora i 'm fail to start requiring divers is second issue -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Morph software
Paul-Erik Törrönen wrote: On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 16:02 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: I'm looking for some morphing software, to take two images, and generate some intermediate images to show the effect of a smooth transition from one to the other. One such program is the convert-command, which is part of the ImageMagick-package. It can do primitive shape morphing, for more information go here: http://www.imagemagick.org/discourse-server/viewtopic.php?f=1t=11263 I've used convert only to do fade-morph frames between images taken of the same view, which then are fed to mencoder to produce a video. I can publish the shell-script which I created to accomplish this if you're interested? I Appreciate the offer, and you probably should publish for people looking for a fade solution, but I'm really looking for a full shape and color morph. I have an old program which I pulled off a Win98 machine which did a pretty good job, but it uses gif format, won't run under wine, and generally is pretty impractical other than as a proof of concept. I'm surprised at the lack, I'll keep looking. Search turned up a number of things which sounded hopeful but had serious issues between the description and the performance. Thanks for the pointer. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
On Sunday 08 February 2009 00:10:23 rajpal songara wrote: first off all thanks for reply i just want to know how browse internet in cdma wll phone in fedora i 'm fail to start requiring divers is second issue What?? What are you talking about? -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
What?? What are you talking about? -- Armin Moradi He probably posted on the wrong thread? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
First of all i'm thankful to your support but my really question is to browse internet with the help of the wll cdma phone wheather the drivers require or not ? is second issue -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Network Manager, Firefox and more on FC10
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Bob Kinney bc98kin...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Wed, 1/7/09, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: My understanding is that if you install from 'Live CD' or if you choose DHCP for network configuration when installing from DVD, NetworkManager is enabled, otherwise, it is not enabled. That seems to be very reasonable logic from my standpoint but I can see that those who just race/clickthrough the install figuring that they'll fix things after first boot will get some surprises. I know I'm coming in a little late on this thread, but this comment caught my eye. The installer (I use the DVD) doesn't seem to offer networking setup any more, which I chalked up to the evolution toward NM. I thought it was a little too Winduhs-like to assume that the user would use DHCP. I've installed F10 several times now-- where am I missing network setup? You're not missing it. The option to set an static ip is just not there. Maybe if one uses 'linux askmethod' and chooses NFS or some other network type install it would ask for net info. I've only install from DVD, but it occurs to me that a NFS install would force you to enter static ip info. ~af -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
On Sat, 2009-02-07 at 22:51 -0500, Mike Chalmers wrote: Neither can I wait for new programs or features, :-)! My point is that instead of requiring you to install or do some kind of a risky yum upgrade (as someone mentioned above, and most likely the drivers you may have installed may have to be replaced) to get the newest software, WHY NOT JUST PROVIDE UPDATES FOR THE LATEST SOFTWARE? You can all rail against me, which I expected, but I was just trying to make a point because I like Fedora! Because software depends upon common libraries and nothing exists in a vacuum. I think you make less of a point about liking Fedora than the point you make in that you don't understand how it all works. Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
I think you make less of a point about liking Fedora than the point you make in that you don't understand how it all works. Craig -- Say what you will, which isn't true, but I have used Fedora for quite sometime, because I like it very much. There must be someway for Fedora to work through updates and upgrades, then installing a new OS? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Preupgrade 8-10, fails
Greetings; I googled for and found the preupgrade stuff, figuring I could goto 9 and then 10, but 9 is not a choice presented. So I go for 10, and eventually it tells me that there is not sufficient space to download the install image in the /boot partition. Of course there isn't, when I re-installed 8 after a drive failure, the fscking partitioner would not allow me to setup a boot partition over 200 megs. I did have it set for 500 earlier. So I quit the preupgrader, deleted a good sized stack of kernels etc in that partition and now have 92 megs free. But that is still not enough. Is there an argument I can give, or a file I can edit to put this scratchpad area someplace else? After all, there are about 1.3 terrabyte's of drives here. Thanks. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Vegetarians beware! You are what you eat. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Mike Chalmers mikechalmer...@gmail.com wrote: I DID NOT want to make this post sounding like I am so right, because I know that all the programmers, Linux gurus, etc., know far more then me. There must be someway to fix a situation, that needs to be fixed though. I just don't understand why they do not provide updates which I could imagine they could do instead of releasing a completely knew OS??? Sometimes there are massive changes in the design. Imagine going from KDE 3.x to KDE 4.x. You start hearing words like plasmoids and what not... I was reading something about ext4 filesystem in F11... it really is quite challenging to do things like that with a mere OS update. Again, sorry for the initial yelling. It helps to count to 1 before typing an email in frustration. :-) You're not alone. Many share the challenge. But we willingly choose to go the Fedora way. It's the cutting edge thing, the curiosity to learn what else is new. CentOS is far more ideal for those who want to be close to the Fedora flavor. ~af -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Preupgrade 8-10, fails
On Sat, 2009-02-07 at 23:25 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; I googled for and found the preupgrade stuff, figuring I could goto 9 and then 10, but 9 is not a choice presented. So I go for 10, and eventually it tells me that there is not sufficient space to download the install image in the /boot partition. Of course there isn't, when I re-installed 8 after a drive failure, the fscking partitioner would not allow me to setup a boot partition over 200 megs. I did have it set for 500 earlier. So I quit the preupgrader, deleted a good sized stack of kernels etc in that partition and now have 92 megs free. But that is still not enough. Is there an argument I can give, or a file I can edit to put this scratchpad area someplace else? After all, there are about 1.3 terrabyte's of drives here. if your network has a dhcp server, the preupgrade process will reboot and down the needed kernel after pre-boot. Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
On Sat, 2009-02-07 at 23:25 -0500, Mike Chalmers wrote: I think you make less of a point about liking Fedora than the point you make in that you don't understand how it all works. Craig -- Say what you will, which isn't true, but I have used Fedora for quite sometime, because I like it very much. There must be someway for Fedora to work through updates and upgrades, then installing a new OS? preupgrade or yum - simple enough Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 23:12:12 -0500, Mike Chalmers mikechalmer...@gmail.com wrote: There must be someway to fix a situation, that needs to be fixed though. I just don't understand why they do not provide updates which I could imagine they could do instead of releasing a completely knew OS??? It was tried in the past and didn't work. Not enough people wanted to do the work. See the Fedora Legacy project. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
On Sat, 2009-02-07 at 20:16 -0800, rajpal songara wrote: First of all i'm thankful to your support but my really question is to browse internet with the help of the wll cdma phone wheather the drivers require or not ? is second issue You *really* need to stop doing this. It's called thread hijacking. Your question has nothing to do with the topic of this thread. If you want to start a new topic, compose a separate message, do *not* simply reply to an existing one. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
On Sunday 08 February 2009 00:44:28 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2009-02-07 at 20:16 -0800, rajpal songara wrote: First of all i'm thankful to your support but my really question is to browse internet with the help of the wll cdma phone wheather the drivers require or not ? is second issue You *really* need to stop doing this. It's called thread hijacking. Your question has nothing to do with the topic of this thread. If you want to start a new topic, compose a separate message, do *not* simply reply to an existing one. poc lol, I am laughing so hard! -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 23:12:12 -0500 Mike Chalmers mikechalmer...@gmail.com wrote: There must be someway to fix a situation, that needs to be fixed though. I just don't understand why they do not provide updates which I could imagine they could do instead of releasing a completely knew OS??? There is no requirement to upgrade. I am at F10 on my development machine, but my wife is still running FC8, and my server machine, which I consider a production system, is still on FC5. Incidentally, I skipped F9 altogether. -- Chuck http://www.pacificsites.com/~ccrayne/charles.html -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 8:10 PM, rajpal songara rajpal.619...@gmail.com wrote: first off all thanks for reply i just want to know how browse internet in cdma wll phone in fedora i 'm fail to start requiring divers is second issue At the bottom of every email there is a reference to mailing list guidelines. Take some time to read them if you're not familiar with how things work in forums of this type. Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines ~af -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
On Sat, 2009-02-07 at 23:25 -0500, Mike Chalmers wrote: I think you make less of a point about liking Fedora than the point you make in that you don't understand how it all works. Craig -- Say what you will, which isn't true, but I have used Fedora for quite sometime, because I like it very much. There must be someway for Fedora to work through updates and upgrades, then installing a new OS? On Ubuntu (which also has a 6-month upgrade cycle BTW) you can do a dist-upgrade when going from one version to another. This looks like a normal upgrade except that it downloads a lot more stuff and takes longer, however it is fairly easy to use. For a long time Fedora had nothing equivalent but now there's preupgrade, which AFAIK (I haven't tried it) is more or less the same idea, just less point-and-clicky. I'm sure we'll get there eventually ... However the point I'm trying to make is that all OSes have a version upgrade process that's more complex than simply updating some packages. Changing versions allows the developers more freedom to rip out important parts of the foundations and replace them, without worrying about the system staying up while this is taking place (a process a friend compares to repairing a car engine while the car is in motion). Given that this is a fact of life, your complaint appears to boil down to the frequency with which it happens. The only possible response, as others have said, is that if this bothers you then you're using the wrong distro. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
Mike Chalmers wrote: I DID NOT want to make this post sounding like I am so right, because I know that all the programmers, Linux gurus, etc., know far more then me. OK... There must be someway to fix a situation, that needs to be fixed though. I just don't understand why they do not provide updates which I could imagine they could do instead of releasing a completely knew OS??? That kind of contradicts your first paragraph. You said that others know far more than you do..yet you are insisting that something needs to be fixed. You sort of redeemed yourself by acknowledging that I don't understand. So, maybe what is really needed is for you to ask why are things done the way they are and not the way you want them to be done? Again, sorry for the initial yelling. If you wish to place emphasis on a phrase it is better to use something like I *did not* want. -- No matter how cynical you get, it's impossible to keep up. mei-mei.gres...@greshko.com http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=cCSz_koUhSg signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Network Manager, Firefox and more on FC10
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 20:19:33 -0800 Aldo Foot wrote: You're not missing it. The option to set an static ip is just not there. Maybe if one uses 'linux askmethod' and chooses NFS or some other network type install it would ask for net info. I've only install from DVD, but it occurs to me that a NFS install would force you to enter static ip info. There is a 'asknetwork' boot parameter I turn on when installing from hard disk that gets it to ask me about the network connection, and I have successfully defined a static IP at install time that way (of course, it doesn't work right after the system boots till you disable NetworkManager and enable network :-). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Preupgrade 8-10, fails
On Saturday 07 February 2009, Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2009-02-07 at 23:25 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; I googled for and found the preupgrade stuff, figuring I could goto 9 and then 10, but 9 is not a choice presented. So I go for 10, and eventually it tells me that there is not sufficient space to download the install image in the /boot partition. Of course there isn't, when I re-installed 8 after a drive failure, the fscking partitioner would not allow me to setup a boot partition over 200 megs. I did have it set for 500 earlier. So I quit the preupgrader, deleted a good sized stack of kernels etc in that partition and now have 92 megs free. But that is still not enough. Is there an argument I can give, or a file I can edit to put this scratchpad area someplace else? After all, there are about 1.3 terrabyte's of drives here. if your network has a dhcp server, the preupgrade process will reboot and down the needed kernel after pre-boot. Craig That is already here I believe: [ama...@coyote amanda-2.6.2alpha-20090206]$ ls /boot/upgrade initrd.img vmlinuz It didn't say kernel, it said install image in the error box. Thanks Craig. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -- Pablo Picasso -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Network Manager, Firefox and more on FC10
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Tom Horsley tom.hors...@att.net wrote: On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 20:19:33 -0800 Aldo Foot wrote: You're not missing it. The option to set an static ip is just not there. Maybe if one uses 'linux askmethod' and chooses NFS or some other network type install it would ask for net info. I've only install from DVD, but it occurs to me that a NFS install would force you to enter static ip info. There is a 'asknetwork' boot parameter I turn on when installing from hard disk that gets it to ask me about the network connection, and I have successfully defined a static IP at install time that way (of course, it doesn't work right after the system boots till you disable NetworkManager and enable network :-). Nice tip. Thanks. So I take it you get to the boot prompt by frantically pressing the ESC key? That NM thing is like the hiccups that woudn't go away... :-) ~af -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f11 alpha x86_64 live KDE image too large to fit on CD?
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Antonio Olivares olivares14...@yahoo.com wrote: How about a live dvd with all/most DE in place, GNOME, KDE, XFCE, and LXDE as well. That would be better download all the possibilities in one DVD. This would make a one size fits all mentality, otherwise put in a usb drive with the capacity to boot it with a specialized cd to boot usb drives(when the bios does not work, and user does not have a dvd drive). Regards, Antonio That sounds like a great idea and I'd be one satisfied customer with a DVD with all the tools in it. However, there is still some old server out there that only has a CD drive in it, which does not need all that extra stuff. ~af -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Network Manager, Firefox and more on FC10
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 21:16:34 -0800 Aldo Foot wrote: Nice tip. Thanks. So I take it you get to the boot prompt by frantically pressing the ESC key? Nah, when booting to do a hard disk install, I usually just extract the necessary images from the DVD and make a grub entry pointing at them with all the boot time parameters I want to define, then I just reboot and select that grub entry, and anaconda starts up with all the right options already defined. Much more convenient that fooling with physical DVDs. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Network Manager, Firefox and more on FC10
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Tom Horsley tom.hors...@att.net wrote: On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 21:16:34 -0800 Aldo Foot wrote: Nice tip. Thanks. So I take it you get to the boot prompt by frantically pressing the ESC key? Nah, when booting to do a hard disk install, I usually just extract the necessary images from the DVD and make a grub entry pointing at them with all the boot time parameters I want to define, then I just reboot and select that grub entry, and anaconda starts up with all the right options already defined. Much more convenient that fooling with physical DVDs. Very practical approach. Reminds me of the kickstart idea. ~af -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 21:13:21 -0500 Mike Chalmers mikechalmer...@gmail.com wrote: I do not understand how Fedora expects you to upgrade or reinstall every 6 months or so. Why not provide updates, major ones, to the already installed OS instead of having to reinstall a new OS!!! I imagine that this, if done in an organized way, could be easier on the developers of Fedora. I appreciate the sentiment. In reality, you can stay with a release for a year before it goes EOL. IOW, F10 will be updated until the release of F13. Even then, I would never use Fedora on a server - opting for CentOS instead. I have tried more distributions on my laptop than I care to admit to. Ultimately, I always return to Fedora. -- Neither Lifestyle nor Agenda http://www.tips-Q.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora live dvd
Thank you very much for you help, But now I am getting new problem while installing fedora via virtual box. I allocated space of 16GB for it , and I am installing it from boot.iso as stated earlier. At the time of installation I choose Remove all linux partition and choose default layout. Checked review and modifying partitioning layout . Clicked on next and then clicked on write changes to disk . After selecting drive on which fedora is to be installed , I clicked on next and window is popped up saying Enable Network Interface. When I click ok it said exit installer or debug. Can't I skip this step. Why I need to be connected to internet. After this I have no other option left but to exit installer. thank you On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Aldo Foot luni...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 9:47 AM, shivam tiwari bigbang...@gmail.com wrote: Sir, I just copied fedora 10 from my friends dvd insted of burning it to dvd. So I just have copied files in my computer. I know it can't boot. Please tell me how i can make create bootable dvd of these copied files. thankyou See this tutorial on using k3b. Choose Burn DVD ISO image http://www.raiden.net/?cat=2aid=518 if you don't have k3b do sudo yum install k3b ~af -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora live dvd
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 9:55 PM, shivam tiwari bigbang...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you very much for you help, But now I am getting new problem while installing fedora via virtual box. I allocated space of 16GB for it , and I am installing it from boot.iso as stated earlier. At the time of installation I choose Remove all linux partition and choose default layout. Checked review and modifying partitioning layout . Clicked on next and then clicked on write changes to disk . After selecting drive on which fedora is to be installed , I clicked on next and window is popped up saying Enable Network Interface. When I click ok it said exit installer or debug. Can't I skip this step. Why I need to be connected to internet. After this I have no other option left but to exit installer. thank you Did you burn only the boot.iso image to CDR? The boot.iso image is just that, to boot the system and point the installer to where the bulk of the OS image is. If your intention is to install from CD or DVD media you need to burn the entire Fedora image to DVD. Then use that DVD to install, no network connection needed. Read the official install docs here http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f10/en_US/ In particular read Section 6 Installation Methods BTW - when replying, post at the end of the message, not at the top. See the guidelines. It's hard to read the archives when top posting. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines ~af -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora live dvd
Yes I have complete fedora 10 , but I copied it to my computer directly from dvd. I also burned it to dvd. But I am unable to boot it from that copied dvd. So I want to know, Is there any way I can create live dvd from copied dvd. So that I can install it On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Aldo Foot luni...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 9:55 PM, shivam tiwari bigbang...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you very much for you help, But now I am getting new problem while installing fedora via virtual box. I allocated space of 16GB for it , and I am installing it from boot.iso as stated earlier. At the time of installation I choose Remove all linux partition and choose default layout. Checked review and modifying partitioning layout . Clicked on next and then clicked on write changes to disk . After selecting drive on which fedora is to be installed , I clicked on next and window is popped up saying Enable Network Interface. When I click ok it said exit installer or debug. Can't I skip this step. Why I need to be connected to internet. After this I have no other option left but to exit installer. thank you Did you burn only the boot.iso image to CDR? The boot.iso image is just that, to boot the system and point the installer to where the bulk of the OS image is. If your intention is to install from CD or DVD media you need to burn the entire Fedora image to DVD. Then use that DVD to install, no network connection needed. Read the official install docs here http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f10/en_US/ In particular read Section 6 Installation Methods BTW - when replying, post at the end of the message, not at the top. See the guidelines. It's hard to read the archives when top posting. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines ~af -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
On Sat, 2009-02-07 at 20:16 -0800, rajpal songara wrote: but my really question is Was deleted, won't be answered here. -- Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
On Sat, 2009-02-07 at 21:13 -0500, Mike Chalmers wrote: Why not provide updates, major ones, to the already installed OS instead of having to reinstall a new OS!!! Gentoo... -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.12-78.2.8.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WHY I WANT TO STOP USING FEDORA!!!
On Sat, 2009-02-07 at 21:46 -0500, Chris Tyler wrote: - Updates are available for 2 releases plus one month. You can update once a year and stay current with Fedora. That's what I tend to do. It is a pain to upgrade several machines more often. Even more so on any machine that you need to keep something on over the upgrade. And then there's all the learning of new tricks that you have to do. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.12-78.2.8.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
[Fedora-livecd-list] Patch for unicode error messages
Hi, when I tried to build a custom live cd I noticed some problems in the error reporting when there were unicode error messages (e.g. some dependency was missing). Example: ... anaconda-11.4.1.63-1.i386 von updates hat Abhängigkeitsauflöse-Probleme -- Fehlende Abhängigkeit: booty wird benötigt von Paket anaconda-11.4.1.63-1.i386 (updates) Traceback (most recent call last): File ./tools/livecd-creator, line 140, in module sys.exit(main()) File ./tools/livecd-creator, line 132, in main logging.error(Error creating Live CD : %s % e) UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xe4' in position 42: ordinal not in range(128) My patch ensures that unicode error messages can be printed correctly every time. To get 100% unicode support, one should go through all log calls and ensure that all strings are unicode so that localized error messages are always shown correctly. With my patch, there should be no unicode exceptions anymore, even when the error message may be printed as 'Fehlende Abh\xe4ngigkeit' instead of 'Fehlende Abhängigkeit' (notice the '\xe4' in the first string). fs diff --git a/imgcreate/errors.py b/imgcreate/errors.py index ba08563..071d4b8 100644 --- a/imgcreate/errors.py +++ b/imgcreate/errors.py @@ -20,6 +20,29 @@ class CreatorError(Exception): An exception base class for all imgcreate errors. def __init__(self, msg): Exception.__init__(self, msg) + +# Some error messages may contain unicode strings (especially if your system +# locale is different from 'C', e.g. 'de_DE'). Python's exception class does +# not handle this appropriately (at least until 2.5) because str(Exception) +# returns just self.message without ensuring that all characters can be +# represented using ASCII. So we try to return a str and fall back to repr +# if this does not work. +# +# Please use unicode for your error logging strings so that we can really +# print nice error messages, e.g.: +# log.error(uInternal error: % e) +# instead of +# log.error(Internal error: % e) +# With our custom __str__ and __unicode__ methods both will work but the +# first log call print a more readable error message. +def __str__(self): +try: +return str(self.message) +except UnicodeEncodeError: +return repr(self.message) + +def __unicode__(self): +return unicode(self.message) class KickstartError(CreatorError): pass diff --git a/tools/livecd-creator b/tools/livecd-creator index 1aab882..39f7478 100755 --- a/tools/livecd-creator +++ b/tools/livecd-creator @@ -129,7 +129,7 @@ def main(): creator.unmount() creator.package() except imgcreate.CreatorError, e: -logging.error(Error creating Live CD : %s % e) +logging.error(uError creating Live CD : %s % e) return 1 finally: creator.cleanup() -- Fedora-livecd-list mailing list Fedora-livecd-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list
Re: Meeting Summary and Log of 5/2/2009
On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 16:03 -0500, Jack Aboutboul wrote: Working from the current schedule, however, we came up with the following action items: * Have 3 Feature Owners, or relevant contributors do some form of press interaction with 3 different community press contacts, this meaning news sites, podcasts, etc. Owner: Jack Aboutboul * From this Steven Moix suggested this: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/NewsDistributionNetwork Same idea as above but for each language The page has been updated with spevack's comments and is now ready to receive applications for people interested in publishing news for each language. There is also an (empty) list with couples between marketing people and feature owners/SIGs/other to assure a somewhat continuous news flow. Add yourself to the list if you are interested, we'll discuss the state of this page during the next meeting IMO. * Any Fedora-relates press should now be added to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/PressArchive I just added a link to http://www.pcinpact.com/actu/news/48938-fedora-11-alpha-mingw-kde4.htm Steven -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Documentary on Fedora
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 4:59 AM, Dushyanth R r.dushya...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all I had a strange idea and thought it would be nice to share. Well it goes like we all love documentaries-they are so informative, they give points to ponder, and mostly because it's fun, also it does help a curious mind to get information without the burden of reading up something. After the idea of picture book, I think the next logical step is an Official documentary. It could maybe cover the birth and rise of fedora, contribution and importance of fedora to the foss community, etc. So any thoughts on such a thing?Comments? I do know that documentaries on Linux already exist(revolution OS, the code linux) but why not have something specific for fedora. Disregard this mail if such a documentary already exists.I searched on google and couldn't find one. regards R Dhushyanth There are a lot of videos about Fedora and its community. If you want to volunteer to investigate on this possibility. I thought sometime ago about some video guide for ambassadors, but the script planning, the production and post-production discouraged me. That's my personal POV, taken from my experience. Regards Francesco Ugolini -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
