Re: DHCP assistance required.

2009-02-16 Thread picsfoo
Hi Simon,

The same config works fine for me. I use

default-lease-time 3000;
max-lease-time 3000;

What is the version of dhcp you are using?

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On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Simon Slater  wrote:
>G'day all,
>I'm just starting to get to know dhcp and have got stuck very 
> early on
> with the dhcp parser rejecting dhcpd.conf as shown below:
>
> Feb 17 16:46:36 dell dhcpd: /etc/dhcpd.conf line 4: expecting a
> parameter or declaration
> Feb 17 16:46:36 dell dhcpd: default-lease-time 600;
> Feb 17 16:46:36 dell dhcpd:^
>
> The dhcpd.conf file is very basic to begin with:
>
> [r...@dell network-scripts]# cat /etc/dhcpd.conf
> #Sample /etc/dhcpd.conf
> # (add your comments here)
> ddns-update-style none;
> default-lease-time 600;
> max-lease-time 7200;
> #option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
> #option broadcast-address 192.168.1.255;
> option routers 192.168.1.254;
> #option domain-name-servers 192.168.1.1, 192.168.1.2;
> #option domain-name "mydomain.org";
> authoritative;
> subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
> range 192.168.1.100 192.168.1.199;
> }
> [r...@dell network-scripts]#
>
>All the examples I can find have a similar line for default lease time
> (line 4 here), but the parser seems to want more.  There is nothing
> after the ";" so what do I need?
>
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Re: Getting Rid of NepoMuk

2009-02-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
Javier Perez wrote:
> Well, I had to nuke my KDE environment and switch to XFCE. damn!

No need for such a sledgehammer approach... Nepomuk can be disabled in
systemsettings.

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Re: DHCP assistance required.

2009-02-16 Thread Simon Slater
On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 17:45 +1030, Tim wrote:
>  > default-lease-time 600;
> >
> >   All the examples I can find have a similar line for default
> lease time
> > (line 4 here), but the parser seems to want more.  There is nothing
> > after the ";" so what do I need?
> 
> Are you sure that it's an ordinary blank space typed before the "600"?
> 
Well I used vi to go to the end of the line, deleted everything
including the ; and retyped the ; to make sure there was nothing after
it.  Still got the parsing error.

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Re: Getting Rid of NepoMuk

2009-02-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
Javier Perez wrote:
> How do I kill this? Where is it coming from?
> I do not see with service --status-all
> Neither do I see it with KDE services
> 
> How do I kill this beast?

In System Settings, under Advanced / Desktop Search, uncheck "enable Nepomuk
semantic services" and click "Apply".

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Re: problems compiling source code using gcc

2009-02-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
David Antonio Garcia Campos wrote:
> Ive been trying to compile some applications but i always run into errors,
> see error below.

su -c "yum groupinstall buildsys-build"
will install the common stuff most software needs to build. (You'll still
have to install the -devel packages for any libraries the software uses
though.)

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Re: DHCP assistance required.

2009-02-16 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 16:56 +1100, Simon Slater wrote:
> default-lease-time 600;
>
>   All the examples I can find have a similar line for default lease time
> (line 4 here), but the parser seems to want more.  There is nothing
> after the ";" so what do I need?

Are you sure that it's an ordinary blank space typed before the "600"?

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Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

2009-02-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
Mark Haney wrote:
> And yes akonadi does require MySWL, but KDE 4.2 does NOT require
> akonadi.  So my point is still very valid.

KDE 4.2 as provided by upstream does not even *compile* without Akonadi!

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Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

2009-02-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
Ed Greshko wrote:
> When I have more time I will look at it...  However, I doubt that each
> application will spawn a new instance of mysql since that would
> certainly defeat the purpose of a centralized database.  Looking at what
> little documentation I have...I am confident that it is one instance of
> mysql per user.

It is, as long as only Akonadi does it. But I think his point was that there
may be other services or applications starting to do the same, which will
then use separate databases.

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Re: conflicts in kde updates

2009-02-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> What sometimes works is erasing the old package, installing the new one,
> then reinstalling the old one. It doesn't seem reasonable that this
> should work (it seems to imply that "conflicts with" is not
> commutative), but it often does.

This probably only "worked" because of bugs in RPM, which should be fixed
now. So don't expect to get away with this anymore.

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Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

2009-02-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
Martín Marqués wrote:
> They could have used some lighter database engine, like sqlite.

They tried. It didn't work for them. The alternatives they had were trying
to get SQLite fixed and delaying Akonadi for a couple years or just using
MySQL which works now. I can't really blame them for their decision, even
if it means larger dependencies than strictly necessary (but that's really
the _only_ complaint you can make about that decision). It's not like
they're requiring you to do any administration work for that MySQL
instance.

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Re: Differences between KDE & Gnome

2009-02-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> OK, I'll bite. The short answer is that KDE apps such as Quanta need the
> KDE libraries to run, and Gnome apps such as Evolution need the Gnome
> libraries to run. You can have both sets of libraries and use both on
> *either* of the desktops, i.e. Quanta under Gnome or Evo under KDE.

And FWIW, Quanta still uses the KDE 3 libraries, so those are extra
libraries to install anyway (even under KDE, which is now KDE 4).

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Re: Disabling mouse taps on Fedora 10

2009-02-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
Please start a new subject instead of replying to an existing one. It's not
the same thing! Most people on mailing lists use mail programs which
understand threading, so a reply shows up as part of the thread you're
replying to, which is wrong.

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Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

2009-02-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
Andreas M. Kirchwitz wrote:
> In Fedora 10, akonadi cannot be un-installed without removing KDE.
> And KDE cannot be updated to version 4.2 without updating akonadi
> as well. In the end, KDE 4.2 requires MySQL (server) to be installed.

And where's the problem? It doesn't use much disk space and you don't have
to configure anything, you only need the executable. (And the systemwide
service, which Akonadi does not need, is disabled by default in the
mysql-server package anyway, as it ought to be.) Why is it a problem that
you need an executable which happens to be called mysqld? How's that worse
than, say, kded4 or to take a GNOME example, gnome-settings-daemon or
gnome-keyring-daemon? It's just a daemon which happens to be a database.

> And by default, akonadi uses a local MySQL instance. That's weird for a
> desktop workstation, and it's the wrong way to use a database like MySQL.

What alternative do you suggest? You surely can't expect all users to
configure their own database server! Starting up a local, automatically
configured, per-user instance is the only possible default which just
works. You can set it up to use a central server if you don't want a local
one.

> However, I accept the fact that KDE 4.2 now depends on MySQL, and
> installing a different Linux distribution after all these years
> won't help because sooner or later all other Linux distributions
> will have the same dependencies which come from akonadi (and
> without akonadi, you cannot install KDE). So, until GNOME people
> start their local MySQL instances as well, the only option is to
> remove KDE from the system.

No, your other option is to just accept that MySQL is required. I don't see
where the problem is.

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Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

2009-02-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
Colin J Thomson - G6AVK wrote:
> Well if I am not mistaken Kabc is using it, I am not sure if it is set to
> use Kabc initially as default, Rex, Kevin?

Actually I think Akonadi is simply set up to autostart as a service, no
matter whether you actually have stuff using it or not.

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Re: Getting Rid of NepoMuk

2009-02-16 Thread Javier Perez
Well, I had to nuke my KDE environment and switch to XFCE. damn!

It seemed like the 7-head hydra.No matter how many times I killed it would
just restart.

It killed my MythTV box in the middle of movies. Now with XFCE I could
finally watch them.

WAF went way down after this

JP

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Craig White wrote:

> On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 20:10 -0800, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>
> > New features that no one knows about coming to your KDE desktop one
> update at a time :)
> 
> you mean like akonodai?
>
> ;-)
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Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

2009-02-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
Clemens Eisserer wrote:
> Sorry for that off-topic question, but have the KDE4.2 packages
> already been released for regular online update (for F10)

Yes.

> or are they still in testing?

No.

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Re: Black vs. blue panel (was: Re: First thoughts on KDE4.2...)

2009-02-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
Anne Wilson wrote:
> I have OpenGL rendering.  I wonder if that's affecting things?  Maybe I
> should try the alternative.

I think it's just how these themes are.

Maybe you want to make your own theme with more transparency? It's all SVG,
no code needed (nor supported, unfortunately, which makes making Plasma
themes very unattractive for developers like me; artists should love it
though ;-) ).

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Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

2009-02-16 Thread Jay Mistry
>> > Linux bloat continues unabated.
>>
>> 
>> I think...
>>
>> - that you would have to have kde-pim package installed to bloat here
>>
>> - agreed on bloat but considering that my Acer Aspire One is 10 Gb
>> Windows installation and 5 Gb Fedora 10 and I have a lot more 'stuff'
>> installed in Fedora.
>>
> Agreed.  My other laptop has to dual-boot with XP.  However, I only require it
> for one application.  I partitioned it with 8GB for XP system (no data) and to
> my surprise the most basic install filled it to danger point.  I could
> certainly run a modern linux distro, with more applications, in the same
> space.
>
> More importantly, in linux, if you think something does install too much, you
> do have a choice.
>
> Anne

Looking at KDE 4.2, which seems to have sacrificed functionality for
good looks & an enhanced (but difficult to navigate & configure
interface), it seems a part of Linux seems to be moving the Windows
way (re: Vista's complex operation, non-intuitive functions & the
'aero' interface) ... choice in Linux seems to be going the Redmond
way (probably an overstatement, but now may be a good time for a
check).

Hope the next OO.org will not present us a telly-tubby look with a 'ribbon'.

Jay

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Re: qemu-kvm: qns regarding network and usb keyboard setup

2009-02-16 Thread suvayu ali
2009/2/16 gary artim :
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:22 AM, suvayu ali  
> wrote:
>> 2009/2/15 Kevin Kofler :
>>> suvayu ali wrote:
 Neither can I go to a virtual terminal using Ctrl+Alt+. everytime
 I press Ctrl+Alt it releases the keyboard input and I am back in the host.
>>>
>>> Even if the grab wasn't released by Ctrl+Alt, the key would still be
>>> intercepted by the host. This happens at X11 level, so the key doesn't even
>>> reach applications such as QEMU-KVM.
>>>
>> how do I get around this?
>>
>> --
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>>
>
> I had a similar problem running vmplayer on fc10 and had to add to :
>
> /etc/vmware/config :
>
> xkeymap.keycode.108 = 0x138 # Alt_R
> xkeymap.keycode.106 = 0x135 # KP_Divide
> xkeymap.keycode.104 = 0x11c # KP_Enter
> xkeymap.keycode.111 = 0x148 # Up
> xkeymap.keycode.116 = 0x150 # Down
> xkeymap.keycode.113 = 0x14b # Left
> xkeymap.keycode.114 = 0x14d # Right
> xkeymap.keycode.105 = 0x11d # Control_R
> xkeymap.keycode.118 = 0x152 # Insert
> xkeymap.keycode.119 = 0x153 # Delete
> xkeymap.keycode.110 = 0x147 # Home
> xkeymap.keycode.115 = 0x14f # End
> xkeymap.keycode.112 = 0x149 # Prior
> xkeymap.keycode.117 = 0x151 # Next
> xkeymap.keycode.78 = 0x46 # Scroll_Lock
> xkeymap.keycode.127 = 0x100 # Pause
> xkeymap.keycode.133 = 0x15b # Meta_L
> xkeymap.keycode.134 = 0x15c # Meta_R
> xkeymap.keycode.135 = 0x15d # Menu
>
> the arrow keys work again. not sure if this is even closely equivilant.
>
> -- Gary

I couldn't find anything similar on my machine. In a way there
shouldn't be, isn't it? After all VMWare and KVM are fundamentally
different. If only I knew where to start looking ...


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DHCP assistance required.

2009-02-16 Thread Simon Slater
G'day all,
I'm just starting to get to know dhcp and have got stuck very 
early on
with the dhcp parser rejecting dhcpd.conf as shown below:

Feb 17 16:46:36 dell dhcpd: /etc/dhcpd.conf line 4: expecting a
parameter or declaration
Feb 17 16:46:36 dell dhcpd: default-lease-time 600;
Feb 17 16:46:36 dell dhcpd:^

The dhcpd.conf file is very basic to begin with:

[r...@dell network-scripts]# cat /etc/dhcpd.conf
#Sample /etc/dhcpd.conf
# (add your comments here)
ddns-update-style none;
default-lease-time 600;
max−lease−time 7200;
#option subnet−mask 255.255.255.0;
#option broadcast−address 192.168.1.255;
option routers 192.168.1.254;
#option domain−name−servers 192.168.1.1, 192.168.1.2;
#option domain−name "mydomain.org";
authoritative;
subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
range 192.168.1.100 192.168.1.199;
}
[r...@dell network-scripts]#

All the examples I can find have a similar line for default lease time
(line 4 here), but the parser seems to want more.  There is nothing
after the ";" so what do I need?
 
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Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

2009-02-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 22:44 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
>  wrote:
> > On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 21:35 +, Colin J Thomson - G6AVK wrote:
> >>  Well if I am not mistaken Kabc is using it, I am not sure if it is
> >> set to use
> >> Kabc initially as default, Rex, Kevin? but I use it (for testing
> >> purposes)
> >> with Kabc:
> >>
> >> 2560 /usr/bin/akonadi_control
> >> 2562 akonadiserver
> >> 2569 /usr/libexec/mysqld --defaults-
> >> file=/home/g6avk/.local/share/akonadi//mysql.conf --
> >> datadir=/home/g6avk/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/ --
> >> socket=/home/g6avk/.local/share/akonadi/db_misc/mysql.socket
> >> 2622 /usr/bin/akonadi_mailthreader_agent --identifier
> >> akonadi_mailthreader_agent
> >> 2623 /usr/bin/akonadi_vcard_resource --identifier
> >> akonadi_vcard_resource_2
> >>
> >> Works well an not resource hungry. If you don't want/need to use it
> >> disable it
> >> in systems settings.
> >
> > I've never heard of Kabc and have no idea what it is. There's no file
> > with that name installed anywhere on my system (I checked).
> >
> > I'd still like to know why I'm running akonadi.
> >
> > poc
> 
> 
> Kabc is the K Address Book, it's always been called kabc

Well, you learn something new every day. I was searching for Kabc, not
kabc.

I still don't use it though, nor Kontact, nor Knotes, nor Kmail. So why
am I running akonadi? I occasionally run Konqueror and Dolphin. Would
that explain it?

poc

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Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

2009-02-16 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
 wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 21:35 +, Colin J Thomson - G6AVK wrote:
>>  Well if I am not mistaken Kabc is using it, I am not sure if it is
>> set to use
>> Kabc initially as default, Rex, Kevin? but I use it (for testing
>> purposes)
>> with Kabc:
>>
>> 2560 /usr/bin/akonadi_control
>> 2562 akonadiserver
>> 2569 /usr/libexec/mysqld --defaults-
>> file=/home/g6avk/.local/share/akonadi//mysql.conf --
>> datadir=/home/g6avk/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/ --
>> socket=/home/g6avk/.local/share/akonadi/db_misc/mysql.socket
>> 2622 /usr/bin/akonadi_mailthreader_agent --identifier
>> akonadi_mailthreader_agent
>> 2623 /usr/bin/akonadi_vcard_resource --identifier
>> akonadi_vcard_resource_2
>>
>> Works well an not resource hungry. If you don't want/need to use it
>> disable it
>> in systems settings.
>
> I've never heard of Kabc and have no idea what it is. There's no file
> with that name installed anywhere on my system (I checked).
>
> I'd still like to know why I'm running akonadi.
>
> poc


Kabc is the K Address Book, it's always been called kabc


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Disabling mouse taps on Fedora 10

2009-02-16 Thread Linux Media

Hi,

I've spent the whole day googling and looking at the Fedora List 
Archives. All I need to do is disable mouse taps in my mouse pad.


I've edited /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty/10-synaptics.fdi over 
and over, but apparently, I don't know the syntax or how it really all 
works. And all I got was fragmented pieces of information from my 
research. I would like to adhere to the new approach to configuring 
hardware. I'm assuming that creating an xorg.conf file just confuses 
things and doesn't address the new way of doing things.


Ok, so does anyone know how to correctly edit an FDI file to disable 
mouse taps (and which file)? Or is there a better way?


Btw... I'm running KDE 4.2.0

Thanks in advance,
Rocco

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Re: Getting Rid of NepoMuk

2009-02-16 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 20:10 -0800, Antonio Olivares wrote:

> New features that no one knows about coming to your KDE desktop one update at 
> a time :)

you mean like akonodai?

;-)

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Re: Getting Rid of NepoMuk

2009-02-16 Thread Antonio Olivares



--- On Mon, 2/16/09, Javier Perez  wrote:

> From: Javier Perez 
> Subject: Getting Rid of NepoMuk
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." 
> 
> Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 8:01 PM
> Hi
> How do I kill this? Where is it coming from?
> I do not see with service --status-all
> Neither do I see it with KDE services
> 
> How do I kill this beast?
> 
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kill it with a nepomukservices GUN :)

Seriously, I encountered the same problem on rawhide.  Let it run for a while 
and it should take care of itself.

while meaning 3 minutes or more, depending on your machine's power CPU and ram 
this could take less or more.  

http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Metadata/Nepomuk/NepomukServices

http://markmail.org/message/sppmcpz4a6dhctro

You have not seen NOTHING yet, there is another one called kde4d or kded4, I 
have encountered it on rawhide it hogs your CPU :(, but I killed it with

2980 olivares  20   0  151m  19m  14m R 84.6  3.9   2:25.38 kded4  


killall -9 kded4 

and thankfully CPU came back to normal.  **Wonder what that does(kde4d)?**

New features that no one knows about coming to your KDE desktop one update at a 
time :)

Regards,

Antonio 


  

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Getting Rid of NepoMuk

2009-02-16 Thread Javier Perez
Hi
How do I kill this? Where is it coming from?
I do not see with service --status-all
Neither do I see it with KDE services

How do I kill this beast?

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Re: g++ -save-temps mess

2009-02-16 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 18:16:29 -0600,
  Michael Hennebry  wrote:
> I recently went from FC8 to FC9.
> Since then commands like g++ -save-temps main1.cc
> give me .s files with names like main1.tmp.localhost.localdomain.2918.s
> and don't give me any preprocessed source at all.
> What is going on?
> How do I fix it?
>
> I'm sure the messy .s file names are useful for people
> doing really interesting things with file organization.
> I am not.

Since I just went through this; make sure you aren't using ccache.
I needed to get a .ii file for a bug report I filed and just using
-save-temps only saved the .s files. Since it was easiest, I just removed
ccache, but there must be a way to turn it off without uninstalling it.

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Re: problems compiling source code using gcc

2009-02-16 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 21:56 -0500, David Antonio Garcia Campos wrote:

$ gcc -Wall hello.c -o hello
In file included from /usr/include/features.h:359,
  from /usr/include/stdio.h:28,
  from hello.c:1:
/usr/include/gnu/stubs.h:9:27: error: gnu/stubs-64.h: No such file or
directory

$ rpm -qf /usr/include/gnu/stubs.h
glibc-headers-2.9-3.x86_64

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Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

2009-02-16 Thread kmadananteshwar . vbhat
Thanx ann 
Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

-Original Message-
From: Anne Wilson 

Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:42:35 
To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using 
Fedora.
Subject: Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server


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Re: Tools to work with a Sansa

2009-02-16 Thread Richard England

Richard England wrote:

Steve Snyder wrote:

On Wednesday 11 February 2009 17:09:55 Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 

I just got a Sansa 4Gb Connect MP3.  This is audio and video.

I am running FC10 and Gnome on an Asus 701.

I plug the sansa in with its special USB cable and I show a USB
device but it is not accessable.



The Sansa devices can be configured in 2 USB modes.  By default they 
are configured such that they appear to be a media device to MS 
Windows.  You want the other mode, it which the Sansa appears to be a 
storage device.  That's configured in the Sansa's Settings section.


 

I have tried to add the Disk Mounter tool to the panel, but when I
click on add, nothing happens.

So perhaps multiple things are going wrong here.

But what tool would I use to move music, pics, and videos to the
Sansa?



When I plug in my Sansa, I am informed (on my KDE desktop) that a new 
device has been plugged in.  I opt to mount that device.  Then it is 
a simple matter to copy files to /media/SANSA_CLIP/PODCASTS/ (or 
whatever).  When the Sansa is disconnected it automatically 
re-indexes the files stored on it.  Then they are available via the 
on-screen menu selection.


FYI, the Sansa firmware is updated the same way: just copy the 
firmware file to the root of the device's filesystem.  No need for 
Sandisk's Win32 application.


  

Steve,
Where do you find the firmware updates that are _not_ in the form or a 
*.exe file?


Or is there some way to break the components out of the *.exe?

Thanks,
~~R


To answer myself, see:

http://forums.sandisk.com/sansa/board/message?board.id=clip&thread.id=10534

in case the next person needs it.  Instructions and code worked 
perfectly for a new Sansa Clip.  (and it now handles FLAC and OGG)


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problems compiling source code using gcc

2009-02-16 Thread David Antonio Garcia Campos
hello eveyone,

Ive been trying to compile some applications but i always run into errors,
see error below.

[davi...@localhost gcc]$ gcc -Wall hello.c -o hello
In file included from /usr/include/features.h:359,
  from /usr/include/stdio.h:28,
  from hello.c:1:
/usr/include/gnu/stubs.h:9:27: error: gnu/stubs-64.h: No such file or
directory

This always happens whenever I want to install a new tool. I have noticed
that if I use this flag for gcc -m32 , it always compiles fine.

but why do i get the error shown above? how can i fix this problem? i dont
really want to use the -m32 option, as my arch is 64 bits.

Thanks for the help,

Dave
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Re: myqsl dummy needs help

2009-02-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 16 February 2009, Craig White wrote:
>On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 15:38 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> webmin not available according to yum.
>>
>> Ok, so I rip it out again, only this time I run a script that searches the
>> locate database for mysql and deletes all the leftovers before I
>> reinstall.
>>
>> Would that help?  Something is obviously completely fubar.
>
>
>turned out that I had to start mysqld before running...
>
>mysqladmin - u root password 'new-password'
>
>after that, it was no problem connecting
>
># mysqladmin -u root password 'test'
>[r...@lin-workstation httpd]# mysql -p
>Enter password:
>Welcome to the MySQL monitor.  Commands end with ; or \g.
>Your MySQL connection id is 5
>Server version: 5.0.67 Source distribution
>
>Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to clear the buffer.
>
>mysql> \q
>Bye
>
>webmin (rpm and/or tarball) is available at http://www.webmin.com
>
>Craig

This time I not only had yum remove anything mysql related, I then ran thru 
the output of a fresh updatedb run, and nuked everything I could find.

Then I had yum install about 50 mysql related packages.  Now it will at least 
start mysqld.
If the root pw is empty I should be able to run something, so I'll start with 
mysqladmin in the gui.  And using the gui, and this machines FQDN, I am 
apparently in.

The bottom line would appear to be, if you don't have any databases to save, 
then yum remove *mysql*, updatedb locate and nuke ANYTHING left behind, then 
re-install.  If you have a database to save, well, rotsa ruck.  Hope you have 
backups.

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Re: myqsl dummy needs help

2009-02-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 16 February 2009, Gordon Messmer wrote:
>Gene Heskett wrote:
>> See other posts that describe what I did to recover.  Thanks.
>
>I read your other posts, but didn't see that you'd recovered.  Things
>are working now?

Yes, I had yum remove it all, then ran updatedb so I could locate the ghosts 
and nuke them too.  Then I had yum reinstall the whole maryann.  And it 
appears to be working, I can now get a mysql shell just fine.

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Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

2009-02-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 21:35 +, Colin J Thomson - G6AVK wrote:
>  Well if I am not mistaken Kabc is using it, I am not sure if it is
> set to use 
> Kabc initially as default, Rex, Kevin? but I use it (for testing
> purposes) 
> with Kabc:
> 
> 2560 /usr/bin/akonadi_control
> 2562 akonadiserver
> 2569 /usr/libexec/mysqld --defaults-
> file=/home/g6avk/.local/share/akonadi//mysql.conf --
> datadir=/home/g6avk/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/ --
> socket=/home/g6avk/.local/share/akonadi/db_misc/mysql.socket
> 2622 /usr/bin/akonadi_mailthreader_agent --identifier 
> akonadi_mailthreader_agent
> 2623 /usr/bin/akonadi_vcard_resource --identifier
> akonadi_vcard_resource_2
> 
> Works well an not resource hungry. If you don't want/need to use it
> disable it 
> in systems settings.

I've never heard of Kabc and have no idea what it is. There's no file
with that name installed anywhere on my system (I checked).

I'd still like to know why I'm running akonadi.

poc

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Re: myqsl dummy needs help

2009-02-16 Thread Gordon Messmer

Gene Heskett wrote:


See other posts that describe what I did to recover.  Thanks.


I read your other posts, but didn't see that you'd recovered.  Things 
are working now?


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Re: myqsl dummy needs help

2009-02-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 16 February 2009, Gordon Messmer wrote:
>Gene Heskett wrote:
>...
>
>> With all due respect Craig, what the hell use is it then when ALL the
>> documentation is wrong?
>
>...
>
>> /tmp itself is drwxr-xr-x  amanda disk   system_u:object_r:tmp_t:s0  
>> tmp
>
>Well, that's totally wrong.  I'm curious about how permissions on /tmp
>got broken.  That's almost certainly what caused the problem.  My guess
>is that the first time mysql started, it began the initialization
>process for the databases in /var/lib/mysql, but failed partially
>through because of the problem with /tmp.  After that, MySQL will not
>continue trying to initialize, so you've got a bad database.
>
>To correct the problem, you need to make sure that /tmp is in good
>order.  It should look like this:
>
># ls -ldZ /tmp
>drwxrwxrwt  root root system_u:object_r:tmp_t:s0   /tmp/
>
>If it doesn't, then "chmod 1777 /tmp" and "chown root:root /tmp"
>
>Next, delete the contents of /var/lib/mysql.  That directory must also
>exist and must have the correct permissions.  It should look like this:
>
>$ ls -ldZ /va/lib/mysql
>drwxr-xr-x  mysql mysql system_u:object_r:mysqld_db_t  /var/lib/mysql
>
>Once those two directories are fixed, you *should* be able to start
>msyql, and use the cli "mysql" and "mysqladmin" tools without a
>password.  If not, check for new SELinux problems.
>
>And with all due respect, the documentation isn't wrong just because it
>doesn't cover recovery from the specific error condition on your host.

See other posts that describe what I did to recover.  Thanks.

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Re: myqsl dummy needs help

2009-02-16 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 16:16 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote:

> Name calling won't solve anyone's problems, gang.  Let's try to keep
> this a bit more professional, shall we?
> 
> Now, to address the issue, /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock is a FIFO (actually
> a named pipe), not an actual file and is created when mysqld starts up 
> and deleted when mysql shuts down.  When mysqld is running, it should
> appear as follows:
> 
> # ls -lZ mysql.sock
> srwxrwxrwx  mysql mysql unconfined_u:object_r:mysqld_var_run_t:s0 mysql.sock
> 
> If your /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock is a regular file (which it would be
> if you used "touch" to create it), first delete the file and run
> "restorecon -v /var/lib/mysql" as root.  Then see if mysql will start
> up.  It may not, because if you "rm -rf /var/lib/mysql", then you also
> destroyed mysql's users, hosts and permissions database which it needs
> to manage things.  You should be able to recover them by running the
> following commands:
> 
>   # mysql# mysql# mysql  
> Or "yum remove mysql*" and reinstall the packages that get removed.

entirely unnecessary Rick...

[r...@lin-workstation httpd]# rm -fr /var/lib/mysql/*  
You have new mail in /var/spool/mail/root  
[r...@lin-workstation httpd]# service mysqld start 
Initializing MySQL database:  Installing MySQL system tables...
090216 17:52:30 [Warning] option 'max_join_size': unsigned value
18446744073709551615 adjusted to 4294967295
090216 17:52:30 [Warning] option 'max_join_size': unsigned value
18446744073709551615 adjusted to 4294967295
OK  

Filling help
tables...   
   
090216 17:52:31 [Warning] option 'max_join_size': unsigned value
18446744073709551615 adjusted to 4294967295
090216 17:52:31 [Warning] option 'max_join_size': unsigned value
18446744073709551615 adjusted to 4294967295
OK  


To start mysqld at boot time you have to copy
support-files/mysql.server to the right place for your system

PLEASE REMEMBER TO SET A PASSWORD FOR THE MySQL root USER !
To do so, start the server, then issue the following commands:
/usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root password 'new-password'
/usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root -h lin-workstation.azapple.com password
'new-password'

Alternatively you can run:
/usr/bin/mysql_secure_installation

which will also give you the option of removing the test
databases and anonymous user created by default.  This is
strongly recommended for production servers.

See the manual for more instructions.

You can start the MySQL daemon with:
cd /usr ; /usr/bin/mysqld_safe &

You can test the MySQL daemon with mysql-test-run.pl
cd mysql-test ; perl mysql-test-run.pl

Please report any problems with the /usr/bin/mysqlbug script!

The latest information about MySQL is available on the web at
http://www.mysql.com
Support MySQL by buying support/licenses at http://shop.mysql.com
   [  OK  ]
Starting MySQL:[  OK  ]
[r...@lin-workstation httpd]# mysqladmin -u root password 'test'
[r...@lin-workstation httpd]# mysql -p
Enter password:
Welcome to the MySQL monitor.  Commands end with ; or \g.
Your MySQL connection id is 3
Server version: 5.0.67 Source distribution

Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to clear the buffer.

mysql> \q
Bye

Craig

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g++ -save-temps mess

2009-02-16 Thread Michael Hennebry

I recently went from FC8 to FC9.
Since then commands like g++ -save-temps main1.cc
give me .s files with names like main1.tmp.localhost.localdomain.2918.s
and don't give me any preprocessed source at all.
What is going on?
How do I fix it?

I'm sure the messy .s file names are useful for people
doing really interesting things with file organization.
I am not.

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Re: myqsl dummy needs help

2009-02-16 Thread Rick Stevens

Gene Heskett wrote:

On Monday 16 February 2009, Craig White wrote:

On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 17:52 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:

On Monday 16 February 2009, Craig White wrote:

On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 15:51 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:

On Monday 16 February 2009, Anne Wilson wrote:

On Monday 16 February 2009 20:27:04 Gene Heskett wrote:

No package webmin available.
Nothing to do

I don't think I've ever had webmin from a distro package, but it
installs so easily from the website.

Anne

I found it, installed it, let it do its updates, but a scan for servers
doesn't find mysql cuz it is not running and now won't run.

I had NDI this was going to such a PIMA, but a friend has mythtv
running at his place and it does everything but fix breakfast.

If anyone has any idea how to reset this SOB to absolutely square one,
never having been run, please advise.  Deleting /var/lib/mysql didn't
do it.


you don't delete /var/lib/mysql
you delete /var/lib/mysql/*

mkdir /var/lib/mysql
chown mysql:mysql /var/lib/mysql
service mysqld start

I got to here ^^^ and selinux stuck up its hand & waved at me.
SELinux is preventing mysqld (mysqld_t) "create" to mysql.sock
(var_lib_t).

And recommended I run restorecon -v 'mysql.sock', but:
[r...@coyote rpms]# restorecon -v 'mysql.sock'
restorecon:  stat error on mysql.sock:  No such file or directory

So I go back to the top of the list above and repeat, apparently forever
cuz I get the same thing when I restart mysqld.

Now, since mysql.sock doesn't exist, because it can't create it, therefore
restorecon can't do anything about it, WTH do I do next?

So I located the old one in the database, touched a new one, then
'chown mysql:mysql mysql.sock;restorecon -v mysql.sock'  No errors
reported. But, a 'service mysqld start' eventually fails.  And now the
selinux count is plus 2 cuz I tried it twice.

So how do we fix YAMYSQLFSCKUP?


ignoring that the person whining is the one who deleted the directory in
the first place, it should have been obvious to you that you needed to
also restore the security contexts on /var/lib/mysql when you recreated
it.

Are you having a good time blaming everything else for your troubles?

There are millions of people running mysql without your issues.

Craig


With all due respect Craig, it must have done it once, over a year ago, but I 
haven't been using it for anything.  I had yum rpm -e the whole thing which 
took a few other things along with it, then reinstalled the whole maryann.


No change.  If, when it was installed originally, it spit out any such errors, 
I don't after a year, recall them, and selinux has been updated a dozen times 
since the install and my re-enabling selinux.  So lets be realistic and see 
just what the hell we can do about selinux killing mysql instead of your 
usual shoot the messenger attitude.


Name calling won't solve anyone's problems, gang.  Let's try to keep
this a bit more professional, shall we?

Now, to address the issue, /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock is a FIFO (actually
a named pipe), not an actual file and is created when mysqld starts up 
and deleted when mysql shuts down.  When mysqld is running, it should

appear as follows:

# ls -lZ mysql.sock
srwxrwxrwx  mysql mysql unconfined_u:object_r:mysqld_var_run_t:s0 mysql.sock

If your /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock is a regular file (which it would be
if you used "touch" to create it), first delete the file and run
"restorecon -v /var/lib/mysql" as root.  Then see if mysql will start
up.  It may not, because if you "rm -rf /var/lib/mysql", then you also
destroyed mysql's users, hosts and permissions database which it needs
to manage things.  You should be able to recover them by running the
following commands:

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Re: Tools to work with a Sansa

2009-02-16 Thread Richard England

Steve Snyder wrote:

On Wednesday 11 February 2009 17:09:55 Robert Moskowitz wrote:
  

I just got a Sansa 4Gb Connect MP3.  This is audio and video.

I am running FC10 and Gnome on an Asus 701.

I plug the sansa in with its special USB cable and I show a USB
device but it is not accessable.



The Sansa devices can be configured in 2 USB modes.  By default they 
are configured such that they appear to be a media device to MS 
Windows.  You want the other mode, it which the Sansa appears to be a 
storage device.  That's configured in the Sansa's Settings section.


  

I have tried to add the Disk Mounter tool to the panel, but when I
click on add, nothing happens.

So perhaps multiple things are going wrong here.

But what tool would I use to move music, pics, and videos to the
Sansa?



When I plug in my Sansa, I am informed (on my KDE desktop) that a new 
device has been plugged in.  I opt to mount that device.  Then it is a 
simple matter to copy files to /media/SANSA_CLIP/PODCASTS/ (or 
whatever).  When the Sansa is disconnected it automatically re-indexes 
the files stored on it.  Then they are available via the on-screen menu 
selection.


FYI, the Sansa firmware is updated the same way: just copy the firmware 
file to the root of the device's filesystem.  No need for Sandisk's 
Win32 application.


  

Steve,
Where do you find the firmware updates that are _not_ in the form or a 
*.exe file?


Or is there some way to break the components out of the *.exe?

Thanks,
~~R

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Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

2009-02-16 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Andreas M. Kirchwitz  
wrote:
> Mark Haney  wrote:
>
>  > And yes akonadi does require MySWL, but KDE 4.2 does NOT require
>  > akonadi.  So my point is still very valid.
>
> In Fedora 10, akonadi cannot be un-installed without removing KDE.
> And KDE cannot be updated to version 4.2 without updating akonadi
> as well. In the end, KDE 4.2 requires MySQL (server) to be installed.
>
> Yes, you may run KDE without akonadi, and akonadi may use remote
> databases, but Fedora 10 insists on installing MySQL server packages
> if you want to have KDE 4.2. And by default, akonadi uses a local
> MySQL instance. That's weird for a desktop workstation, and it's the
> wrong way to use a database like MySQL. Are all KDE core developers
> aware of this new dependency, and are they all happy about it?
>
> However, I accept the fact that KDE 4.2 now depends on MySQL, and
> installing a different Linux distribution after all these years
> won't help because sooner or later all other Linux distributions
> will have the same dependencies which come from akonadi (and
> without akonadi, you cannot install KDE). So, until GNOME people
> start their local MySQL instances as well, the only option is to
> remove KDE from the system.
>
> It's okay. Fedora has always been more GNOME-ish than KDE-ish,
> so it's not such a big loss. I'm not using KDE as my default
> desktop environment, but I liked some KDE apps. Will search for
> alternatives.
>
>Don't worry ... Andreas


By your comment one would think that installing mysql-server brings
some great evil with it.


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Re: myqsl dummy needs help

2009-02-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 16 February 2009, Craig White wrote:
>On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 17:52 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> On Monday 16 February 2009, Craig White wrote:
>> >On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 15:51 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> >> On Monday 16 February 2009, Anne Wilson wrote:
>> >> >On Monday 16 February 2009 20:27:04 Gene Heskett wrote:
>> >> >> No package webmin available.
>> >> >> Nothing to do
>> >> >
>> >> >I don't think I've ever had webmin from a distro package, but it
>> >> > installs so easily from the website.
>> >> >
>> >> >Anne
>> >>
>> >> I found it, installed it, let it do its updates, but a scan for servers
>> >> doesn't find mysql cuz it is not running and now won't run.
>> >>
>> >> I had NDI this was going to such a PIMA, but a friend has mythtv
>> >> running at his place and it does everything but fix breakfast.
>> >>
>> >> If anyone has any idea how to reset this SOB to absolutely square one,
>> >> never having been run, please advise.  Deleting /var/lib/mysql didn't
>> >> do it.
>> >
>> >
>> >you don't delete /var/lib/mysql
>> >you delete /var/lib/mysql/*
>> >
>> >mkdir /var/lib/mysql
>> >chown mysql:mysql /var/lib/mysql
>> >service mysqld start
>>
>> I got to here ^^^ and selinux stuck up its hand & waved at me.
>> SELinux is preventing mysqld (mysqld_t) "create" to mysql.sock
>> (var_lib_t).
>>
>> And recommended I run restorecon -v 'mysql.sock', but:
>> [r...@coyote rpms]# restorecon -v 'mysql.sock'
>> restorecon:  stat error on mysql.sock:  No such file or directory
>>
>> So I go back to the top of the list above and repeat, apparently forever
>> cuz I get the same thing when I restart mysqld.
>>
>> Now, since mysql.sock doesn't exist, because it can't create it, therefore
>> restorecon can't do anything about it, WTH do I do next?
>>
>> So I located the old one in the database, touched a new one, then
>> 'chown mysql:mysql mysql.sock;restorecon -v mysql.sock'  No errors
>> reported. But, a 'service mysqld start' eventually fails.  And now the
>> selinux count is plus 2 cuz I tried it twice.
>>
>> So how do we fix YAMYSQLFSCKUP?
>
>
>ignoring that the person whining is the one who deleted the directory in
>the first place, it should have been obvious to you that you needed to
>also restore the security contexts on /var/lib/mysql when you recreated
>it.
>
>Are you having a good time blaming everything else for your troubles?
>
>There are millions of people running mysql without your issues.
>
>Craig

With all due respect Craig, it must have done it once, over a year ago, but I 
haven't been using it for anything.  I had yum rpm -e the whole thing which 
took a few other things along with it, then reinstalled the whole maryann.

No change.  If, when it was installed originally, it spit out any such errors, 
I don't after a year, recall them, and selinux has been updated a dozen times 
since the install and my re-enabling selinux.  So lets be realistic and see 
just what the hell we can do about selinux killing mysql instead of your 
usual shoot the messenger attitude.

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Re: myqsl dummy needs help

2009-02-16 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 17:52 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 16 February 2009, Craig White wrote:
> >On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 15:51 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >> On Monday 16 February 2009, Anne Wilson wrote:
> >> >On Monday 16 February 2009 20:27:04 Gene Heskett wrote:
> >> >> No package webmin available.
> >> >> Nothing to do
> >> >
> >> >I don't think I've ever had webmin from a distro package, but it installs
> >> > so easily from the website.
> >> >
> >> >Anne
> >>
> >> I found it, installed it, let it do its updates, but a scan for servers
> >> doesn't find mysql cuz it is not running and now won't run.
> >>
> >> I had NDI this was going to such a PIMA, but a friend has mythtv running
> >> at his place and it does everything but fix breakfast.
> >>
> >> If anyone has any idea how to reset this SOB to absolutely square one,
> >> never having been run, please advise.  Deleting /var/lib/mysql didn't do
> >> it.
> >
> >
> >you don't delete /var/lib/mysql
> >you delete /var/lib/mysql/*
> >
> >mkdir /var/lib/mysql
> >chown mysql:mysql /var/lib/mysql
> >service mysqld start
> 
> I got to here ^^^ and selinux stuck up its hand & waved at me.
> SELinux is preventing mysqld (mysqld_t) "create" to mysql.sock (var_lib_t). 
> 
> And recommended I run restorecon -v 'mysql.sock', but:
> [r...@coyote rpms]# restorecon -v 'mysql.sock'
> restorecon:  stat error on mysql.sock:  No such file or directory
> 
> So I go back to the top of the list above and repeat, apparently forever cuz 
> I 
> get the same thing when I restart mysqld.
> 
> Now, since mysql.sock doesn't exist, because it can't create it, therefore 
> restorecon can't do anything about it, WTH do I do next?
> 
> So I located the old one in the database, touched a new one, then 
> 'chown mysql:mysql mysql.sock;restorecon -v mysql.sock'  No errors reported.
> But, a 'service mysqld start' eventually fails.  And now the selinux count is 
> plus 2 cuz I tried it twice.
> 
> So how do we fix YAMYSQLFSCKUP?

ignoring that the person whining is the one who deleted the directory in
the first place, it should have been obvious to you that you needed to
also restore the security contexts on /var/lib/mysql when you recreated
it.

Are you having a good time blaming everything else for your troubles?

There are millions of people running mysql without your issues.

Craig

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Re: Custom Keyboard layout in KDE 4.2

2009-02-16 Thread Andreas Waldenburger
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 22:13:25 +0100 Kevin Kofler
 wrote:

> Andreas Waldenburger wrote:
> > I'm using a customized version of the German Dvorak layout and I
> > would like KDE4 to use that. It used to work in KDE3 where I would
> > just copy my customized xkb_symbols into the de symbols file and
> > edit a lst file in xkb/rules.. (I've used
> > http://hektor.umcs.lublin.pl/~mikosmul/computing/articles/custom-keyboard-layouts-xkb.html
> > for reference). Now that doesn't seem to work anymore.
> 
> I suspect this stopped working because of the switch to evdev, not
> because of KDE 4.
> 
Maybe. I can't seem to find any good information on evdev, so I'll ask
here: Anybody know how to set up by keyboard with evdev properly?


Any hints much appreciated.
/W

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Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

2009-02-16 Thread Andreas M. Kirchwitz
Mark Haney  wrote:

 > And yes akonadi does require MySWL, but KDE 4.2 does NOT require
 > akonadi.  So my point is still very valid.
 
In Fedora 10, akonadi cannot be un-installed without removing KDE.
And KDE cannot be updated to version 4.2 without updating akonadi
as well. In the end, KDE 4.2 requires MySQL (server) to be installed.

Yes, you may run KDE without akonadi, and akonadi may use remote
databases, but Fedora 10 insists on installing MySQL server packages
if you want to have KDE 4.2. And by default, akonadi uses a local
MySQL instance. That's weird for a desktop workstation, and it's the
wrong way to use a database like MySQL. Are all KDE core developers
aware of this new dependency, and are they all happy about it?

However, I accept the fact that KDE 4.2 now depends on MySQL, and
installing a different Linux distribution after all these years
won't help because sooner or later all other Linux distributions
will have the same dependencies which come from akonadi (and
without akonadi, you cannot install KDE). So, until GNOME people
start their local MySQL instances as well, the only option is to
remove KDE from the system.

It's okay. Fedora has always been more GNOME-ish than KDE-ish,
so it's not such a big loss. I'm not using KDE as my default
desktop environment, but I liked some KDE apps. Will search for
alternatives.

Don't worry ... Andreas

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Re: hwo to install a goup with GUI

2009-02-16 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
William M. Quarles wrote:
> Adel ESSAFI wrote:
>> Hi list
>>
>> I want to ask how to do to install a group of package graphically. the
>> add/remove software allows only to parse the groups and then you have
>> to select the needed packages. There is even "select all" option.
> 
> Just to clarify, I think you meant "Is there even a 'select all' option?"
> 
> Folks, it seems to me that he is referring to "gpk-application" or
> whatever the equivalent is for KDE, which of course uses Yum as its
> backend.
> 
> Yes, I would like to know how to do this, too. You should be able to do
> it from the command line using yum, but I don't see any way to do it
> using any GUI utilities except when running Anaconda on the installation
> discs. I would suggest submitting a Bugzilla report if somebody hasn't
> already as a future feature request.
> 
> As for now, it looks like we are stuck with using yum at the command
> line in order to mass-install or mass-uninstall groups of packages. I've
> only seen that I can install and uninstall entire groups using "yum
> groupinstall " and "yum groupremove " respectively, but
> these only install and remove the groups as they come on the
> installation discs (use "yum grouplist" to list groups of packages).
> They do not take into account the extra packages available from the
> Fedora repositories, nor any other repositories added to the yum
> configuration. Does anybody out there know how to add an entire group of
> packages, no matter where they come from, using yum at the commandline?
> 
> Thanks,
> William
> 
If you are using yumex, click on the folder icon - this gives you
the group view instead of the package view. From their, you can go
down the tree one level and install the standard group packages with
one checkbox. You still have to open the group to get the optional
packages, but I believe you have to do that with yum as well.

Is this what you are after, or am I missing something?

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Re: myqsl dummy needs help

2009-02-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 16 February 2009, Mike Wright wrote:
>locate mysql | grep '/bin/' | grep install
/usr/bin/mysql_install_db
/usr/bin/mysql_secure_installation

The secure installer asks me for my root pw then tells me to just press enter
Enter current password for root (enter for none):
ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through 
socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2)
Enter current password for root (enter for none):

So I ctl-c it and run the install_db, which gets me back to the selinux & its 
used bull food leavings.

Do I need to touch /.autorelabel and reboot?  With 2TB of drives I can't begin 
to describe how painful that 4 hours would be.

Or go file a bug against selinux and mysql?

Frustration reigns supreme here.  If I have to reboot, it might just be to 
Kubuntu-8.10 or a beta of 9.4.

Added that (selinux) list to To:  Daniel, your turn, it's 18:05 here, and I've 
been screwing with this since about 18:00 yesterday.  That is long enough 
IMO.  This thread has a now VERY lengthy thread on the fedora list.

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Re: myqsl dummy needs help

2009-02-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 16 February 2009, Craig White wrote:
>On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 15:51 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> On Monday 16 February 2009, Anne Wilson wrote:
>> >On Monday 16 February 2009 20:27:04 Gene Heskett wrote:
>> >> No package webmin available.
>> >> Nothing to do
>> >
>> >I don't think I've ever had webmin from a distro package, but it installs
>> > so easily from the website.
>> >
>> >Anne
>>
>> I found it, installed it, let it do its updates, but a scan for servers
>> doesn't find mysql cuz it is not running and now won't run.
>>
>> I had NDI this was going to such a PIMA, but a friend has mythtv running
>> at his place and it does everything but fix breakfast.
>>
>> If anyone has any idea how to reset this SOB to absolutely square one,
>> never having been run, please advise.  Deleting /var/lib/mysql didn't do
>> it.
>
>
>you don't delete /var/lib/mysql
>you delete /var/lib/mysql/*
>
>mkdir /var/lib/mysql
>chown mysql:mysql /var/lib/mysql
>service mysqld start

I got to here ^^^ and selinux stuck up its hand & waved at me.
SELinux is preventing mysqld (mysqld_t) "create" to mysql.sock (var_lib_t). 

And recommended I run restorecon -v 'mysql.sock', but:
[r...@coyote rpms]# restorecon -v 'mysql.sock'
restorecon:  stat error on mysql.sock:  No such file or directory

So I go back to the top of the list above and repeat, apparently forever cuz I 
get the same thing when I restart mysqld.

Now, since mysql.sock doesn't exist, because it can't create it, therefore 
restorecon can't do anything about it, WTH do I do next?

So I located the old one in the database, touched a new one, then 
'chown mysql:mysql mysql.sock;restorecon -v mysql.sock'  No errors reported.
But, a 'service mysqld start' eventually fails.  And now the selinux count is 
plus 2 cuz I tried it twice.

So how do we fix YAMYSQLFSCKUP?

Thanks Craig
 
>mysqladmin -u root password 'new-password'
>   ^don't change   ^change
>
>done
>
>Craig



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unable to join Fedora with Windows 2K3 domain

2009-02-16 Thread Adeel Akbar
Whenever I try to join my fedora workstation with windows 2k3 domain its
shows me below mentioned message

 

==

 

[2009/02/17 02:56:32, 0] libads/kerberos.c:ads_kinit_password(228)

  kerberos_kinit_password fedor...@i2c.com failed: Preauthentication failed
Failed to join domain: Logon failure ADS join did not work, falling back to
RPC...

Joined domain IC.

 

==

 

Please help me out, I want to join with domain. Thank you 

 

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Re: unable to join windows 2K3 domain

2009-02-16 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 03:00 +0500, Adeel Akbar wrote:
> Please help me out

Message deleted.  Was inappropriately sent as a reply to something
unrelated.

Post a "NEW" message, and try again.  Do NOT hit reply and edit the
details, that is *NOT* creating a new message.  Post a "NEW" message.

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Re: What's on my system...

2009-02-16 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 15:14 +0100, DB wrote:
> Hi all (today is my day for getting several ideas off my chest)
> 
> Having used "s, you know what"  for many years, with its "add/remove 
> programs" which tells when I last used a program; and its subset 
> "add/remove windoze elements",  I'm wondering how I can do the same in FC9.

Also having used other OSs that names start with "sh.." I can't really
recall such useful functionality.  There are all sorts of unused things
on those systems that aren't listed, nor made to be uninstallable in any
way, at all.  Not to mention things that should have been uninstallable,
because they're on the list, but the uninstall fouled up terribly.

But the idea of such a thing is moderately simple:  It's a database.
One that stores what's installed, and various information about it.
And, rather obviously, it knows nothing about anything that wasn't put
into the database.  

All the OSs can have software run on them that aren't installed through
a system that adds them to such a database, so it lets you down in that
area, straight away.  

To have a database that includes information about what's used, would
require YOUR user interface (menus, desktop icon launches, links between
programs, etc.) to also add data to the database.  It's do-able, but not
done here.  

I'm not sure that I'd want to, either.  How do you distinguish between:
Important to be kept, but only used once or twice, so it doesn't look
like it's important to be kept; looked at something a few times, but
don't actually use it (don't need it, can't figure it out, people just
had a look to see what it was, etc.); the user does actually make use of
it; the thing gets run, but nobody actually uses it.

> Since I want to migrate toward FC10, I'd like to find me a list of the 
> things which I use, so as to have a more targeted installation, without 
> all the bells, whistles, pots & pans that "someone" has decided I ought 
> to have

That shouldn't be too hard.  What do you use from day to day?  Surely
you remember that, unless you do use masses of things.  And anything
else that you need to use, later on, can be added when needed.

> (and not to forget one of those essential "it only works if."
> thingies).

Not really something to be concerned about.  If something *needs*
something else to work, that something else would have been installed as
a dependency, automatically.

e.g. If I install a program that needs some Gnome libraries to run, then
they're automatically included as part of the install.

> It'd also be "very nice" if it were possible to "reverse engineer" the
> installations I've made so as to produce my own installation script.

Your initial installation left a file in /root that can be used to
install another system with the same choices.

The list of currently installed packages (the initial installations,
plus all the changes) can be used to do the same thing (preload a new
system install with your choices).

Look into anaconda and kickstart files.

> And... how can I tell if a package is "mission critical" to the life
> of Fedora??

Well, then (a) you wouldn't be able to uninstall it, or (b) the process
of trying to uninstall it would prompt you about uninstalling so many
other obviously important things that you'd abort, and (c) it'd
automatically be included in any new installation, no matter what you
did.

> Dave in freezing Austria (currently -5C)

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over 40 the beginning of this month, probably more of the same to come
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Re: hwo to install a goup with GUI

2009-02-16 Thread William M. Quarles

Adel ESSAFI wrote:

Hi list

I want to ask how to do to install a group of package graphically. the 
add/remove software allows only to parse the groups and then you have to 
select the needed packages. There is even "select all" option.


Just to clarify, I think you meant "Is there even a 'select all' option?"

Folks, it seems to me that he is referring to "gpk-application" or 
whatever the equivalent is for KDE, which of course uses Yum as its backend.


Yes, I would like to know how to do this, too. You should be able to do 
it from the command line using yum, but I don't see any way to do it 
using any GUI utilities except when running Anaconda on the installation 
discs. I would suggest submitting a Bugzilla report if somebody hasn't 
already as a future feature request.


As for now, it looks like we are stuck with using yum at the command 
line in order to mass-install or mass-uninstall groups of packages. I've 
only seen that I can install and uninstall entire groups using "yum 
groupinstall " and "yum groupremove " respectively, but 
these only install and remove the groups as they come on the 
installation discs (use "yum grouplist" to list groups of packages). 
They do not take into account the extra packages available from the 
Fedora repositories, nor any other repositories added to the yum 
configuration. Does anybody out there know how to add an entire group of 
packages, no matter where they come from, using yum at the commandline?


Thanks,
William

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unable to join windows 2K3 domain

2009-02-16 Thread Adeel Akbar
Whenever I try to join my fedora workstation with windows 2k3 domain its
shows me below mentioned message

==

[2009/02/17 02:56:32, 0] libads/kerberos.c:ads_kinit_password(228)
  kerberos_kinit_password fedor...@i2c.com failed: Preauthentication failed
Failed to join domain: Logon failure
ADS join did not work, falling back to RPC...
Joined domain IC.

==

Please help me out, I want to join with domain. Thank you 

Adeel Akbar

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Re: myqsl dummy needs help

2009-02-16 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 15:38 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:

> webmin not available according to yum.
> 
> Ok, so I rip it out again, only this time I run a script that searches the 
> locate database for mysql and deletes all the leftovers before I reinstall.
> 
> Would that help?  Something is obviously completely fubar.

turned out that I had to start mysqld before running...

mysqladmin - u root password 'new-password'

after that, it was no problem connecting

# mysqladmin -u root password 'test'
[r...@lin-workstation httpd]# mysql -p
Enter password:
Welcome to the MySQL monitor.  Commands end with ; or \g.
Your MySQL connection id is 5
Server version: 5.0.67 Source distribution

Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to clear the buffer.

mysql> \q
Bye

webmin (rpm and/or tarball) is available at http://www.webmin.com

Craig

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Re: myqsl dummy needs help

2009-02-16 Thread Gordon Messmer

Gene Heskett wrote:
...
With all due respect Craig, what the hell use is it then when ALL the 
documentation is wrong?

...

/tmp itself is drwxr-xr-x  amanda disk   system_u:object_r:tmp_t:s0   tmp


Well, that's totally wrong.  I'm curious about how permissions on /tmp 
got broken.  That's almost certainly what caused the problem.  My guess 
is that the first time mysql started, it began the initialization 
process for the databases in /var/lib/mysql, but failed partially 
through because of the problem with /tmp.  After that, MySQL will not 
continue trying to initialize, so you've got a bad database.


To correct the problem, you need to make sure that /tmp is in good 
order.  It should look like this:


# ls -ldZ /tmp
drwxrwxrwt  root root system_u:object_r:tmp_t:s0   /tmp/

If it doesn't, then "chmod 1777 /tmp" and "chown root:root /tmp"

Next, delete the contents of /var/lib/mysql.  That directory must also 
exist and must have the correct permissions.  It should look like this:


$ ls -ldZ /va/lib/mysql
drwxr-xr-x  mysql mysql system_u:object_r:mysqld_db_t  /var/lib/mysql

Once those two directories are fixed, you *should* be able to start 
msyql, and use the cli "mysql" and "mysqladmin" tools without a 
password.  If not, check for new SELinux problems.


And with all due respect, the documentation isn't wrong just because it 
doesn't cover recovery from the specific error condition on your host.


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Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

2009-02-16 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 14:06 -0500, Mark Haney wrote:
> As for all the comments about KDE being 'Vista' I'd like to point out
> that GNOME uses Beagle (if I recall) which is very similar to Akonadi.

*Can* use Beagle, if you install it, if you want to.

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Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

2009-02-16 Thread Colin J Thomson - G6AVK
On Monday 16 February 2009 20:59:05 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 20:33 +, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > You could always stop akonadi then do a Save Session, but something must
> > be using it, or you have started it through systemsettings, if that's
> > possible, so be careful that you are not going to break something you
> > want.
>
> Anne, I also have akonadi running but have no idea why:
>
> % pgrep -fl akonadi
> 10876 /usr/bin/akonadi_control
> 10878 akonadiserver
> 10880 /usr/libexec/mysqld
> --defaults-file=/home/poc/.local/share/akonadi//mysql.conf
> --datadir=/home/poc/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/
> --socket=/home/poc/.local/share/akonadi/db_misc/mysql.socket 10901
> /usr/bin/akonadi_kabc_resource --identifier akonadi_kabc_resource_0 10902
> /usr/bin/akonadi_vcard_resource --identifier akonadi_vcard_resource_0 10910
> /usr/bin/akonadi_kabc_resource --identifier akonadi_kabc_resource_1
>
> I don't use any of the kdepim components that I'm aware of. Furthermore,
> attempting to remove akonadi leads to removing virtually all of KDE
> including kdebase and kdelibs, so the question as to whether it's
> "necessary" seems academic.

Well if I am not mistaken Kabc is using it, I am not sure if it is set to use 
Kabc initially as default, Rex, Kevin? but I use it (for testing purposes) 
with Kabc:

2560 /usr/bin/akonadi_control
2562 akonadiserver
2569 /usr/libexec/mysqld --defaults-
file=/home/g6avk/.local/share/akonadi//mysql.conf --
datadir=/home/g6avk/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/ --
socket=/home/g6avk/.local/share/akonadi/db_misc/mysql.socket
2622 /usr/bin/akonadi_mailthreader_agent --identifier 
akonadi_mailthreader_agent
2623 /usr/bin/akonadi_vcard_resource --identifier akonadi_vcard_resource_2

Works well an not resource hungry. If you don't want/need to use it disable it 
in systems settings.

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Re: Request for an update of GTK+

2009-02-16 Thread Andrea
Andrea wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've been tracking an issue that prevents from printing certain paper sizes 
> in GIMP.
> It ended up being a bug in GTK+, fixed last December.
> 
> I've filed a bug on Fedora
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=480245
> 
> It would be nice to have an updated version of GTK+ for Fedora 9 and 10.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Andrea
> 

Hi,

I've just received an update of gtk2 for Fedora 9
(exactly gtk2-2.12.12-2).

This still does not contain the patch for the wrong unit size in the print 
dialog used to select the
paper size.

Is it possible to have this patch added to gtk2. I need to recompile gtk2 every 
time it is updated.
I attach the patch if anybody is interested.

Andrea

--- gtk+-2.12.12/gtk/gtkpapersize.c.old 2009-01-21 20:50:06.0 +
+++ gtk+-2.12.12/gtk/gtkpapersize.c 2009-01-21 22:15:53.0 +
@@ -853,7 +853,8 @@
 
   if (ppd_name != NULL)
 paper_size = gtk_paper_size_new_from_ppd (ppd_name, display_name,
- width, height);
+ _gtk_print_convert_from_mm(width, 
GTK_UNIT_POINTS), 
+ 
_gtk_print_convert_from_mm(height, GTK_UNIT_POINTS));
   else if (name != NULL)
 paper_size = gtk_paper_size_new_custom (name, display_name,
width, height, GTK_UNIT_MM);
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Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

2009-02-16 Thread Clemens Eisserer
Sorry for that off-topic question, but have the KDE4.2 packages
already been released for regular online update (for F10), or are they
still in testing?

Thanks, Clemens

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Re: xdg-screensaver not working

2009-02-16 Thread Andrea
Rex Dieter wrote:
> Andrea wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've tried to use xdg-screensaver many times with KDE 4 but it has never
>> worked. I am on Fedora 9.
>>
>> This is the output
>>
>> [and...@thinkpad ~]$ xdg-screensaver status
>> call failed
>> ERROR:  kdesktop KScreensaverIface isEnabled returned ''
> 
> Nod, xdg-screensaver doesn't yet support KDE4 (adding support via the 
> assocated new dbus methios is not-trivial).  I've been slowly working on it 
> over time... 

I think this little app is very useful for all cases when an application does 
not natively support
this feature.
It is very easy to write a small script doing it, much easier than navigating 
to the correct point
in the config.

Thanks for the update.

Andrea

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Re: myqsl dummy needs help

2009-02-16 Thread Mike Wright

Gene Heskett wrote:

Ok, so I rip it out again, only this time I run a script that searches the 
locate database for mysql and deletes all the leftovers before I reinstall.


Would that help?  Something is obviously completely fubar.


I don't think you have to resort to that.  MySql stores its settings in 
one of its own databases, usually /var/lib/mysql/mysql.


If you really just want to start from scratch and you are sure there are 
no databases you need inside the directory /var/lib/myslq you could 
delete everything in there: "rm -rf /var/lib/mysql/*".


Once that is empty take a look for mysql installers.  e.g.

"locate mysql | grep '/bin/' | grep install"

Execute whichever one seems most promising and you should end up with a 
 brand new out-of-the-box wide open mysql database setup.


Start the mysqld server.

Run mysqladmin and set the root password.

Should be good to go from there.

:m)

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Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

2009-02-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 20:33 +, Anne Wilson wrote:
> You could always stop akonadi then do a Save Session, but something must be 
> using it, or you have started it through systemsettings, if that's possible, 
> so be careful that you are not going to break something you want.

Anne, I also have akonadi running but have no idea why:

% pgrep -fl akonadi
10876 /usr/bin/akonadi_control
10878 akonadiserver
10880 /usr/libexec/mysqld 
--defaults-file=/home/poc/.local/share/akonadi//mysql.conf 
--datadir=/home/poc/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/ 
--socket=/home/poc/.local/share/akonadi/db_misc/mysql.socket
10901 /usr/bin/akonadi_kabc_resource --identifier akonadi_kabc_resource_0
10902 /usr/bin/akonadi_vcard_resource --identifier akonadi_vcard_resource_0
10910 /usr/bin/akonadi_kabc_resource --identifier akonadi_kabc_resource_1

I don't use any of the kdepim components that I'm aware of. Furthermore,
attempting to remove akonadi leads to removing virtually all of KDE
including kdebase and kdelibs, so the question as to whether it's
"necessary" seems academic.

poc

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Re: Using rsync to maintain local FC10 updates repo

2009-02-16 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 14:57:31 -0500,
  Robert Moskowitz  wrote:
> I want to use rsync to maintain a local FC10 updates repo.  I do  this  
> with Centos.
>
> So I wanted to do a simple rsync against one of the mirrors, and tried  
> the script:
>
> #!/bin/sh
> rsync -auv  
> rsync://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/fedora/linux/updates/10/i386/ 
> \
> --delete --exclude=debug/ /repos/fedora/10/updates/i386

Below is what I use to pull x86_64 and i386 repos for Fedora 10 and rawhide
plus rpm fusion. If you have both i386 and x86_64 machines you want to pull
stuff for both at one as the x86_64 repo's include some of the i386 stuff and
you don't need to grab it twice. If you don't want x86_64 stuff remove all of
the options that refer to it in path names. The same goes for rawhide (remove
options that refer to development in path names).
Check the mirror list to see if other mirrors are more suitable for you.

#!/bin/sh

RELEASE=10
BASEDIR=/home/f${RELEASE}
FEDORA=rsync://mirror.hiwaay.net/fedora-linux/
FUSION=rsync://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/rpmfusion/

echo -e "\nSyncing local Fedora ${RELEASE} mirrors ...\n"
rsync -rltHvz --delete-after --include=/releases --include=/updates 
--exclude=/'*' --include=/releases/${RELEASE} --exclude=/releases/'*' 
--include=/releases/${RELEASE}/Everything --include=/releases/${RELEASE}/Fedora 
--exclude=/releases/${RELEASE}/'*' 
--include=/releases/${RELEASE}/Everything/i386/ 
--include=/releases/${RELEASE}/Everything/x86_64/ 
--exclude=/releases/${RELEASE}/Everything/'*' 
--include=/releases/${RELEASE}/Everything/i386/os/ 
--include=/releases/${RELEASE}/Everything/x86_64/os/ 
--exclude=/releases/${RELEASE}/Everything/i386/'*' 
--exclude=/releases/${RELEASE}/Everything/x86_64/'*' 
--include=/releases/${RELEASE}/Fedora/i386 
--exclude=/releases/${RELEASE}/Fedora/'*' 
--include=/releases/${RELEASE}/Fedora/i386/iso 
--exclude=/releases/${RELEASE}/Fedora/i386/'*' 
--include=/releases/${RELEASE}/Fedora/i386/iso/'*'-netinst.iso 
--exclude=/releases/${RELEASE}/Fedora/i386/iso/'*' 
--include=/updates/${RELEASE} --include=/updates/testing --exclude=/updates/'*' 
--include=/u
 pdates/${RELEASE}/i386 --include=/updates/${RELEASE}/x86_64 
--exclude=/updates/${RELEASE}/'*' --exclude=/updates/${RELEASE}/'*'/debug 
--include=/updates/testing/${RELEASE} --exclude=/updates/testing/'*' 
--include=/updates/testing/${RELEASE}/i386 
--include=/updates/testing/${RELEASE}/x86_64 
--exclude=/updates/testing/${RELEASE}/'*' 
--exclude=/updates/testing/${RELEASE}/'*'/debug ${FEDORA} ${BASEDIR}

echo -e "\nSyncing local RPM Fusion Fedora ${RELEASE} mirrors ...\n"
rsync -rltHvz --delete-after --include=/'*'free --exclude=/'*' 
--include=/'*'free/fedora --exclude=/'*'free/'*' 
--include=/'*'free/fedora/releases --include=/'*'free/fedora/updates 
--exclude=/'*'free/fedora/'*' --include=/'*'free/fedora/releases/${RELEASE} 
--exclude=/'*'free/fedora/releases/'*' 
--include=/'*'free/fedora/releases/${RELEASE}/Everything 
--include=/'*'free/fedora/releases/${RELEASE}/Fedora 
--exclude=/'*'free/fedora/releases/${RELEASE}/'*' 
--include=/'*'free/fedora/releases/${RELEASE}/Everything/i386/ 
--include=/'*'free/fedora/releases/${RELEASE}/Everything/x86_64/ 
--exclude=/'*'free/fedora/releases/${RELEASE}/Everything/'*' 
--include=/'*'free/fedora/releases/${RELEASE}/Everything/i386/os/ 
--include=/'*'free/fedora/releases/${RELEASE}/Everything/x86_64/os/ 
--exclude=/'*'free/fedora/releases/${RELEASE}/Everything/i386/'*' 
--exclude=/'*'free/fedora/releases/${RELEASE}/Everything/x86_64/'*' 
--include=/'*'free/fedora/releases/${RELEASE}/Fedora/i386 --exclude=/'*'free/
 fedora/releases/${RELEASE}/Fedora/'*' 
--exclude=/'*'free/fedora/releases/${RELEASE}/Fedora/i386/'*' 
--include=/'*'free/fedora/updates/${RELEASE} 
--include=/'*'free/fedora/updates/testing --exclude=/'*'free/fedora/updates/'*' 
--include=/'*'free/fedora/updates/${RELEASE}/i386 
--include=/'*'free/fedora/updates/${RELEASE}/x86_64 
--exclude=/'*'free/fedora/updates/${RELEASE}/'*' 
--exclude=/'*'free/fedora/updates/${RELEASE}/'*'/debug 
--include=/'*'free/fedora/updates/testing/${RELEASE} 
--exclude=/'*'free/fedora/updates/testing/'*' 
--include=/'*'free/fedora/updates/testing/${RELEASE}/i386 
--include=/'*'free/fedora/updates/testing/${RELEASE}/x86_64 
--exclude=/'*'free/fedora/updates/testing/${RELEASE}/'*' 
--exclude=/'*'free/fedora/updates/testing/${RELEASE}/'*'/debug ${FUSION} 
${BASEDIR}

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Re: myqsl dummy needs help

2009-02-16 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 15:51 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 16 February 2009, Anne Wilson wrote:
> >On Monday 16 February 2009 20:27:04 Gene Heskett wrote:
> >> No package webmin available.
> >> Nothing to do
> >
> >I don't think I've ever had webmin from a distro package, but it installs so
> >easily from the website.
> >
> >Anne
> 
> I found it, installed it, let it do its updates, but a scan for servers 
> doesn't find mysql cuz it is not running and now won't run.
> 
> I had NDI this was going to such a PIMA, but a friend has mythtv running at 
> his place and it does everything but fix breakfast.
> 
> If anyone has any idea how to reset this SOB to absolutely square one, never 
> having been run, please advise.  Deleting /var/lib/mysql didn't do it.

you don't delete /var/lib/mysql
you delete /var/lib/mysql/*

mkdir /var/lib/mysql
chown mysql:mysql /var/lib/mysql
service mysqld start
mysqladmin -u root password 'new-password'
   ^don't change   ^change

done

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Re: myqsl dummy needs help

2009-02-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 16 February 2009, Anne Wilson wrote:
>On Monday 16 February 2009 20:27:04 Gene Heskett wrote:
>> No package webmin available.
>> Nothing to do
>
>I don't think I've ever had webmin from a distro package, but it installs so
>easily from the website.
>
>Anne

I found it, installed it, let it do its updates, but a scan for servers 
doesn't find mysql cuz it is not running and now won't run.

I had NDI this was going to such a PIMA, but a friend has mythtv running at 
his place and it does everything but fix breakfast.

If anyone has any idea how to reset this SOB to absolutely square one, never 
having been run, please advise.  Deleting /var/lib/mysql didn't do it.

Thanks Ann.

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Re: myqsl dummy needs help

2009-02-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 16 February 2009, Robert L Cochran wrote:
>The documentation on the MySQL website that I pointed to, and that
>detailed in Paul DuBois' book, absolutely works for all Fedora
>implementations of MySQL. The Fedora distro packagers do not do anything
>"Fedora different" from a standard MySQL installation.
>
>I know from having studied the spec files in Fedora source packages for
>mysql-server and from having to clean up my own messes now and then that
>this is so.
>
>What is important...is to very carefully read and research the
>documentation provided first, before ever doing anything.
>
>Bob
>
>Craig White wrote:
>> On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 14:06 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> On Monday 16 February 2009, Craig White wrote:
 
 I think original setup for mysql is for root user via local socket and
 not via localhost so there actually isn't an account for r...@localhost
 thus attempting to connect via tcp/ip as root is doomed to fail out of
 the box.

 Craig
>>>
>>> With all due respect Craig, what the hell use is it then when ALL the
>>> documentation is wrong?
>>>
>>> Now, I just had the bright idea of looking at the mysqld.log after
>>> ripping it all out and putting even more of it back in, and see this:
>>>
>>> [r...@coyote etc]# cat /var/log/mysqld.log
>>> 090216 13:30:36  mysqld ended
>>>
>>> 090216 13:30:45  mysqld started
>>> /usr/libexec/mysqld: Can't create/write to file '/tmp/ibnoIZas' (Errcode:
>>> 13) 090216 13:30:45  InnoDB: Error: unable to create temporary file;
>>> errno: 13 090216 13:30:45 [Note] /usr/libexec/mysqld: ready for
>>> connections. Version: '5.0.45'  socket: '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' 
>>> port: 3306  Source distribution
>>>
>>> So obviously /tmp doesn't have the right perms.  Or at least I assume
>>> (there is that word again) that an error 13 is permissions related. 
>>> Selinux is in targeted mode, enabled, and it isn't fussing.
>>>
>>> /tmp itself is drwxr-xr-x  amanda disk   system_u:object_r:tmp_t:s0  
>>> tmp but nearly everything in it is root:root except the amanda and
>>> amanda-debug directories.  So I just changed tmp to drwxrwxrwx  But that
>>> also didn't change anything. Or did it, now the log shows this when I
>>> restart mysqld:
>>>
>>> 090216 13:51:44  mysqld started
>>> InnoDB: The first specified data file ./ibdata1 did not exist:
>>> InnoDB: a new database to be created!
>>> 090216 13:51:44  InnoDB: Setting file ./ibdata1 size to 10 MB
>>> InnoDB: Database physically writes the file full: wait...
>>> 090216 13:51:45  InnoDB: Log file ./ib_logfile0 did not exist: new to be
>>> created InnoDB: Setting log file ./ib_logfile0 size to 5 MB
>>> InnoDB: Database physically writes the file full: wait...
>>> 090216 13:51:45  InnoDB: Log file ./ib_logfile1 did not exist: new to be
>>> created InnoDB: Setting log file ./ib_logfile1 size to 5 MB
>>> InnoDB: Database physically writes the file full: wait...
>>> InnoDB: Doublewrite buffer not found: creating new
>>> InnoDB: Doublewrite buffer created
>>> InnoDB: Creating foreign key constraint system tables
>>> InnoDB: Foreign key constraint system tables created
>>> 090216 13:51:46  InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 0 0
>>> 090216 13:51:46 [Note] /usr/libexec/mysqld: ready for connections.
>>> Version: '5.0.45'  socket: '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock'  port: 3306 
>>> Source distribution
>>>
>>> Which says one problem seems to be sorted, at the expense of a huge
>>> security hole in /tmp as anyone can do anything there now.
>>>
>>> Ok, so now try a login again:
>>> [r...@coyote /]# mysql -u root -p
>>> Enter password:
>>> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using
>>> password: YES) [r...@coyote /]# mysql -u root -p
>>> Enter password:
>>> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using
>>> password: NO) [r...@coyote /]#
>>>
>>> Seems like this is where I started, isn't it?
>>>
>>> Now that the tmp perms is sorted, I suppose I need to go back and do all
>>> that other stuff again...
>>>
>>> Which I just did, and didn't change a thing.  WTF?
>>> Thanks Craig
>>
>> 
>> after initial installation but before you actually ever start mysqld
>> service...
>>
>> mysqladmin - u root password 'new-password'
>>
>> *might* work after the mysqld service has already been started but if
>> you look at the script involved in /etc/init.d/mysqld, much will happen
>> the first time you start it.
>>
>> You can always stop mysqld service, empty contents of /var/lib/mysql and
>> start the service if you don't care about any of the setup.
>>
>> As for the documentation...it's not wrong but the documentation doesn't
>> account for what the various distributions will do with their
>> initialization scripts.
>>
>> If it's all too much for you, install webmin and use that to
>> create/maintain user accounts in mysql.
>>
>> Craig

webmin not available according to yum.

Ok, so I rip it out again, only this time I run a script that searches the 
locate datab

Re: myqsl dummy needs help

2009-02-16 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 16 February 2009 20:27:04 Gene Heskett wrote:
> No package webmin available.
> Nothing to do

I don't think I've ever had webmin from a distro package, but it installs so 
easily from the website.

Anne


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Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

2009-02-16 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 16 February 2009 20:22:37 Martín Marqués wrote:
> 2009/2/16 Mark Haney :
> > Martín Marqués wrote:
> >> Please, enlight me. How can akonadi work without a mysql instance?
> >>
> >> http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/PIM/Akonadi#Which_DBMS_does_Akonadi_use
> >>.3F
> >>
> >> BTW, is there a way to disable akonadi and still work with KDE destop?
> >
> > And yes akonadi does require MySWL, but KDE 4.2 does NOT require
> > akonadi.  So my point is still very valid.
>
> OK. By default akonadi starts when I enter my session. 

What have you got that is using it?

> What do I have
> to do for this not to happen again at logging? Stopping akonadi during
> my open session will make it not start in the next logging?
>
You could always stop akonadi then do a Save Session, but something must be 
using it, or you have started it through systemsettings, if that's possible, 
so be careful that you are not going to break something you want.

As a matter of interest, what resources is it using?  cpu and ram?

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Re: myqsl dummy needs help

2009-02-16 Thread Robert L Cochran
The documentation on the MySQL website that I pointed to, and that
detailed in Paul DuBois' book, absolutely works for all Fedora
implementations of MySQL. The Fedora distro packagers do not do anything
"Fedora different" from a standard MySQL installation.

I know from having studied the spec files in Fedora source packages for
mysql-server and from having to clean up my own messes now and then that
this is so.

What is important...is to very carefully read and research the
documentation provided first, before ever doing anything.

Bob



Craig White wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 14:06 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
>   
>> On Monday 16 February 2009, Craig White wrote:
>> 
>
>   
>>> 
>>> I think original setup for mysql is for root user via local socket and
>>> not via localhost so there actually isn't an account for r...@localhost
>>> thus attempting to connect via tcp/ip as root is doomed to fail out of
>>> the box.
>>>
>>> Craig
>>>   
>> With all due respect Craig, what the hell use is it then when ALL the 
>> documentation is wrong?
>>
>> Now, I just had the bright idea of looking at the mysqld.log after ripping 
>> it all out and putting even more of it back in, and see this:
>>
>> [r...@coyote etc]# cat /var/log/mysqld.log
>> 090216 13:30:36  mysqld ended
>>
>> 090216 13:30:45  mysqld started
>> /usr/libexec/mysqld: Can't create/write to file '/tmp/ibnoIZas' (Errcode: 13)
>> 090216 13:30:45  InnoDB: Error: unable to create temporary file; errno: 13
>> 090216 13:30:45 [Note] /usr/libexec/mysqld: ready for connections.
>> Version: '5.0.45'  socket: '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock'  port: 3306  Source 
>> distribution
>>
>> So obviously /tmp doesn't have the right perms.  Or at least I assume (there 
>> is that word again) that an error 13 is permissions related.  Selinux is in 
>> targeted mode, enabled, and it isn't fussing.
>>
>> /tmp itself is drwxr-xr-x  amanda disk   system_u:object_r:tmp_t:s0   tmp
>> but nearly everything in it is root:root except the amanda and amanda-debug 
>> directories.  So I just changed tmp to drwxrwxrwx  But that also didn't 
>> change
>> anything. Or did it, now the log shows this when I restart mysqld:
>>
>> 090216 13:51:44  mysqld started
>> InnoDB: The first specified data file ./ibdata1 did not exist:
>> InnoDB: a new database to be created!
>> 090216 13:51:44  InnoDB: Setting file ./ibdata1 size to 10 MB
>> InnoDB: Database physically writes the file full: wait...
>> 090216 13:51:45  InnoDB: Log file ./ib_logfile0 did not exist: new to be 
>> created
>> InnoDB: Setting log file ./ib_logfile0 size to 5 MB
>> InnoDB: Database physically writes the file full: wait...
>> 090216 13:51:45  InnoDB: Log file ./ib_logfile1 did not exist: new to be 
>> created
>> InnoDB: Setting log file ./ib_logfile1 size to 5 MB
>> InnoDB: Database physically writes the file full: wait...
>> InnoDB: Doublewrite buffer not found: creating new
>> InnoDB: Doublewrite buffer created
>> InnoDB: Creating foreign key constraint system tables
>> InnoDB: Foreign key constraint system tables created
>> 090216 13:51:46  InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 0 0
>> 090216 13:51:46 [Note] /usr/libexec/mysqld: ready for connections.
>> Version: '5.0.45'  socket: '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock'  port: 3306  Source 
>> distribution
>>
>> Which says one problem seems to be sorted, at the expense of a huge security 
>> hole in /tmp as anyone can do anything there now.
>>
>> Ok, so now try a login again:
>> [r...@coyote /]# mysql -u root -p
>> Enter password:
>> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using 
>> password: YES)
>> [r...@coyote /]# mysql -u root -p
>> Enter password:
>> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using 
>> password: NO)
>> [r...@coyote /]#
>>
>> Seems like this is where I started, isn't it?
>>
>> Now that the tmp perms is sorted, I suppose I need to go back and do all 
>> that 
>> other stuff again...
>>
>> Which I just did, and didn't change a thing.  WTF?
>> Thanks Craig
>> 
> 
> after initial installation but before you actually ever start mysqld
> service...
>
> mysqladmin - u root password 'new-password'
>
> *might* work after the mysqld service has already been started but if
> you look at the script involved in /etc/init.d/mysqld, much will happen
> the first time you start it.
>
> You can always stop mysqld service, empty contents of /var/lib/mysql and
> start the service if you don't care about any of the setup.
>
> As for the documentation...it's not wrong but the documentation doesn't
> account for what the various distributions will do with their
> initialization scripts.
>
> If it's all too much for you, install webmin and use that to
> create/maintain user accounts in mysql.
>
> Craig
>
>   

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Re: myqsl dummy needs help

2009-02-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 16 February 2009, Craig White wrote:
>On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 14:06 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> On Monday 16 February 2009, Craig White wrote:
>> >
>> >I think original setup for mysql is for root user via local socket and
>> >not via localhost so there actually isn't an account for r...@localhost
>> >thus attempting to connect via tcp/ip as root is doomed to fail out of
>> >the box.
>> >
>> >Craig
>>
>> With all due respect Craig, what the hell use is it then when ALL the
>> documentation is wrong?
>>
>> Now, I just had the bright idea of looking at the mysqld.log after ripping
>> it all out and putting even more of it back in, and see this:
>>
>> [r...@coyote etc]# cat /var/log/mysqld.log
>> 090216 13:30:36  mysqld ended
>>
>> 090216 13:30:45  mysqld started
>> /usr/libexec/mysqld: Can't create/write to file '/tmp/ibnoIZas' (Errcode:
>> 13) 090216 13:30:45  InnoDB: Error: unable to create temporary file;
>> errno: 13 090216 13:30:45 [Note] /usr/libexec/mysqld: ready for
>> connections. Version: '5.0.45'  socket: '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock'  port:
>> 3306  Source distribution
>>
>> So obviously /tmp doesn't have the right perms.  Or at least I assume
>> (there is that word again) that an error 13 is permissions related. 
>> Selinux is in targeted mode, enabled, and it isn't fussing.
>>
>> /tmp itself is drwxr-xr-x  amanda disk   system_u:object_r:tmp_t:s0  
>> tmp but nearly everything in it is root:root except the amanda and
>> amanda-debug directories.  So I just changed tmp to drwxrwxrwx  But that
>> also didn't change anything. Or did it, now the log shows this when I
>> restart mysqld:
>>
>> 090216 13:51:44  mysqld started
>> InnoDB: The first specified data file ./ibdata1 did not exist:
>> InnoDB: a new database to be created!
>> 090216 13:51:44  InnoDB: Setting file ./ibdata1 size to 10 MB
>> InnoDB: Database physically writes the file full: wait...
>> 090216 13:51:45  InnoDB: Log file ./ib_logfile0 did not exist: new to be
>> created InnoDB: Setting log file ./ib_logfile0 size to 5 MB
>> InnoDB: Database physically writes the file full: wait...
>> 090216 13:51:45  InnoDB: Log file ./ib_logfile1 did not exist: new to be
>> created InnoDB: Setting log file ./ib_logfile1 size to 5 MB
>> InnoDB: Database physically writes the file full: wait...
>> InnoDB: Doublewrite buffer not found: creating new
>> InnoDB: Doublewrite buffer created
>> InnoDB: Creating foreign key constraint system tables
>> InnoDB: Foreign key constraint system tables created
>> 090216 13:51:46  InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 0 0
>> 090216 13:51:46 [Note] /usr/libexec/mysqld: ready for connections.
>> Version: '5.0.45'  socket: '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock'  port: 3306  Source
>> distribution
>>
>> Which says one problem seems to be sorted, at the expense of a huge
>> security hole in /tmp as anyone can do anything there now.
>>
>> Ok, so now try a login again:
>> [r...@coyote /]# mysql -u root -p
>> Enter password:
>> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using
>> password: YES) [r...@coyote /]# mysql -u root -p
>> Enter password:
>> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using
>> password: NO) [r...@coyote /]#
>>
>> Seems like this is where I started, isn't it?
>>
>> Now that the tmp perms is sorted, I suppose I need to go back and do all
>> that other stuff again...
>>
>> Which I just did, and didn't change a thing.  WTF?
>> Thanks Craig
>
>
>after initial installation but before you actually ever start mysqld
>service...
>
>mysqladmin - u root password 'new-password'
>
>*might* work after the mysqld service has already been started but if
>you look at the script involved in /etc/init.d/mysqld, much will happen
>the first time you start it.
>
>You can always stop mysqld service, empty contents of /var/lib/mysql and
>start the service if you don't care about any of the setup.

I didn't, but:

[r...@coyote /]# service mysqld stop
STOPPING server from pid file /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid
090216 14:57:46  mysqld ended

Stopping MySQL:[  OK  ]
[1]+  Donemysqld_safe --skip-grant-tables 
--init-file=/tmp/mysql.user
[r...@coyote /]# mysqladmin password 'xxxsanitized'
mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket 
'/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2)'
Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' 
exists!
[r...@coyote /]# cd /var/lib
[r...@coyote lib]# ls
alternatives  cs dhclient  hal kdm   multipath  pgsql   
 rkhunter  sepolgentexmf  
yum
awstats   davdhcpv6hsqldb  logrotate.status  mysql  php 
 rpcbind   setroubleshoot  vdr
bittorrentdbus   dirmngr   htdig   misc  nfs
PolicyKitrpm   spamassassinwebalizer
bluetooth denyhosts  games iptraf  mlocate   ntp
random-seed  samba sta

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

2009-02-16 Thread Martín Marqués
2009/2/16 Mark Haney :
> Martín Marqués wrote:
>>
>> Please, enlight me. How can akonadi work without a mysql instance?
>>
>> http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/PIM/Akonadi#Which_DBMS_does_Akonadi_use.3F
>>
>> BTW, is there a way to disable akonadi and still work with KDE destop?
>>
>
> And yes akonadi does require MySWL, but KDE 4.2 does NOT require
> akonadi.  So my point is still very valid.


OK. By default akonadi starts when I enter my session. What do I have
to do for this not to happen again at logging? Stopping akonadi during
my open session will make it not start in the next logging?

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Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

2009-02-16 Thread Rangeen Basu
it was hidden behind a terminal window.  I was going to go back and try
> to figure out was it was all aboutbut subsequently forgot about it.
> Your post did enlighten me as to what happened as I now recall seeing
> "akonadi" at some point.
>
> But, I have been using the latest version of KDE for the past several
> days...and I haven't been bothered or presented with the need to know
> anything about MySQL.  I only now notice there is an instance of MySQL
> running not taking up much resources.  I'm not sure it would have come
> to my attention if you hadn't written your post.
>
> Took a quick look at http://pim.kde.org/akonadi/ and on the surface
> seems like a reasonable direction/idea.  So, not quite sure as to why
> you may consider this to be a big issue.
>
>
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I double that. Why should it bother a user if the akonadi interface takes
care of all database operations. All the user has to do is fill in gui.



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Using rsync to maintain local FC10 updates repo

2009-02-16 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I want to use rsync to maintain a local FC10 updates repo.  I do  this 
with Centos.


So I wanted to do a simple rsync against one of the mirrors, and tried 
the script:


#!/bin/sh
rsync -auv 
rsync://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/fedora/linux/updates/10/i386/ 
\

--delete --exclude=debug/ /repos/fedora/10/updates/i386

It fails:

@ERROR: Unknown module 'pub'
rsync error: error starting client-server protocol (code 5) at 
main.c(1296) [receiver=2.6.8]



Can someone help me?


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Re: myqsl dummy needs help

2009-02-16 Thread Craig White
On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 14:06 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 16 February 2009, Craig White wrote:

> >
> >I think original setup for mysql is for root user via local socket and
> >not via localhost so there actually isn't an account for r...@localhost
> >thus attempting to connect via tcp/ip as root is doomed to fail out of
> >the box.
> >
> >Craig
> 
> With all due respect Craig, what the hell use is it then when ALL the 
> documentation is wrong?
> 
> Now, I just had the bright idea of looking at the mysqld.log after ripping 
> it all out and putting even more of it back in, and see this:
> 
> [r...@coyote etc]# cat /var/log/mysqld.log
> 090216 13:30:36  mysqld ended
> 
> 090216 13:30:45  mysqld started
> /usr/libexec/mysqld: Can't create/write to file '/tmp/ibnoIZas' (Errcode: 13)
> 090216 13:30:45  InnoDB: Error: unable to create temporary file; errno: 13
> 090216 13:30:45 [Note] /usr/libexec/mysqld: ready for connections.
> Version: '5.0.45'  socket: '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock'  port: 3306  Source 
> distribution
> 
> So obviously /tmp doesn't have the right perms.  Or at least I assume (there 
> is that word again) that an error 13 is permissions related.  Selinux is in 
> targeted mode, enabled, and it isn't fussing.
> 
> /tmp itself is drwxr-xr-x  amanda disk   system_u:object_r:tmp_t:s0   tmp
> but nearly everything in it is root:root except the amanda and amanda-debug 
> directories.  So I just changed tmp to drwxrwxrwx  But that also didn't change
> anything. Or did it, now the log shows this when I restart mysqld:
> 
> 090216 13:51:44  mysqld started
> InnoDB: The first specified data file ./ibdata1 did not exist:
> InnoDB: a new database to be created!
> 090216 13:51:44  InnoDB: Setting file ./ibdata1 size to 10 MB
> InnoDB: Database physically writes the file full: wait...
> 090216 13:51:45  InnoDB: Log file ./ib_logfile0 did not exist: new to be 
> created
> InnoDB: Setting log file ./ib_logfile0 size to 5 MB
> InnoDB: Database physically writes the file full: wait...
> 090216 13:51:45  InnoDB: Log file ./ib_logfile1 did not exist: new to be 
> created
> InnoDB: Setting log file ./ib_logfile1 size to 5 MB
> InnoDB: Database physically writes the file full: wait...
> InnoDB: Doublewrite buffer not found: creating new
> InnoDB: Doublewrite buffer created
> InnoDB: Creating foreign key constraint system tables
> InnoDB: Foreign key constraint system tables created
> 090216 13:51:46  InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 0 0
> 090216 13:51:46 [Note] /usr/libexec/mysqld: ready for connections.
> Version: '5.0.45'  socket: '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock'  port: 3306  Source 
> distribution
> 
> Which says one problem seems to be sorted, at the expense of a huge security 
> hole in /tmp as anyone can do anything there now.
> 
> Ok, so now try a login again:
> [r...@coyote /]# mysql -u root -p
> Enter password:
> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using 
> password: YES)
> [r...@coyote /]# mysql -u root -p
> Enter password:
> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using 
> password: NO)
> [r...@coyote /]#
> 
> Seems like this is where I started, isn't it?
> 
> Now that the tmp perms is sorted, I suppose I need to go back and do all that 
> other stuff again...
> 
> Which I just did, and didn't change a thing.  WTF?
> Thanks Craig

after initial installation but before you actually ever start mysqld
service...

mysqladmin - u root password 'new-password'

*might* work after the mysqld service has already been started but if
you look at the script involved in /etc/init.d/mysqld, much will happen
the first time you start it.

You can always stop mysqld service, empty contents of /var/lib/mysql and
start the service if you don't care about any of the setup.

As for the documentation...it's not wrong but the documentation doesn't
account for what the various distributions will do with their
initialization scripts.

If it's all too much for you, install webmin and use that to
create/maintain user accounts in mysql.

Craig

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Re: myqsl dummy needs help

2009-02-16 Thread Markku Kolkka
Gene Heskett kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika maanantai, 16. 
helmikuuta 2009):
> There is no localhost in my /etc/passwd file, do I need to
> adduser first?

MySQL has its own user/password management system that has 
absolutely nothing to do with /etc/passwd, PAM or other Linux 
account management components.

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Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

2009-02-16 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 16 February 2009 16:44:03 Martín Marqués wrote:
> 2009/2/15 Ed Greshko :
> > Took a quick look at http://pim.kde.org/akonadi/ and on the surface
> > seems like a reasonable direction/idea.  So, not quite sure as to why
> > you may consider this to be a big issue.
>
> They could have used some lighter database engine, like sqlite.
>
I would rather see one instance of akonadi/mysql servicing many apps, than 
many apps each having its own sqlite instance.

Anne


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Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

2009-02-16 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 16 February 2009 18:58:55 Martín Marqués wrote:
>
> BTW, is there a way to disable akonadi and still work with KDE destop?
>
Yes.  I'm still looking forward to eventually benefitting from akonadi, but 
it's not for me at the moment.  KOrganizer asks me if I want to put entries 
into an akonadi-compatible diary, and I decline, selecting my old-style one.   
Absolutely no akonadi configuration has been done at this point.

It is, in fact, the right answer, IMO, but still in relatively early days.

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Re: F10: Unable to save sessions

2009-02-16 Thread Rahul Sundaram

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:

I have downloaded and updated packages that I wanted
and yet, I cannot seem to be able to save my desktop sessions.

Does anyone have this problem or know how to fix this or if
a big was submitted?


For GNOME, this is a known issue being worked on. Refer

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F10_bugs#GNOME_session_saving_broken

Rahul




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Re: myqsl dummy needs help

2009-02-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 16 February 2009, Mike Wright wrote:
>mysqladmin password 'secretcode'

mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'


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Re: connecting cell phone

2009-02-16 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 16 February 2009 19:15:00 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 16:18 +, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Monday 16 February 2009 15:46:45 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 16:09 +0100, François Patte wrote:
> > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > > > Hash: SHA1
> > > >
> > > > Bonjour,
> > > >
> > > > I have cell phone Nokia 3120 and I want to connect it to my computer
> > > > with a usb data cable.
> > >
> > > Try gnokii (yum install gnokii).
> >
> > Hmm - userbase could really use a Tutorial section on connecting devices
> > like this.  I don't suppose you could start it off?  If it helps I'll
> > prepare a place-saver for you, and help if you want a basic template to
> > work to
>
> If that was directed at me Anne, I'm willing to help where I can but I
> mentioned gnokii in this case just because I knew of its existence. I do
> remember playing with it a year or two ago but I'm sure there are other
> people better qualified to talk about it. I'd probably just copy bits of
> the manual.
>
Come to think of it, it opens up a whole new section, so perhaps it had better 
be on the back burner for a little longer.

Anne


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Re: myqsl dummy needs help

2009-02-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 16 February 2009, Mike Wright wrote:
>Gene Heskett wrote:
>
>
>> /tmp itself is drwxr-xr-x  amanda disk   system_u:object_r:tmp_t:s0  
>> tmp but nearly everything in it is root:root except the amanda and
>> amanda-debug directories.  So I just changed tmp to drwxrwxrwx  But that
>> also didn't change anything. Or did it, now the log shows this when I
>> restart mysqld:
>
>Hi Gene.  You also need to execute "chmod +t /tmp".  I think your
>permissions should be drwxrwxrwt.

No difference Mike, thanks.

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Re: connecting cell phone

2009-02-16 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 16 February 2009 19:15:00 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 16:18 +, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Monday 16 February 2009 15:46:45 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 16:09 +0100, François Patte wrote:
> > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > > > Hash: SHA1
> > > >
> > > > Bonjour,
> > > >
> > > > I have cell phone Nokia 3120 and I want to connect it to my computer
> > > > with a usb data cable.
> > >
> > > Try gnokii (yum install gnokii).
> >
> > Hmm - userbase could really use a Tutorial section on connecting devices
> > like this.  I don't suppose you could start it off?  If it helps I'll
> > prepare a place-saver for you, and help if you want a basic template to
> > work to
>
> If that was directed at me Anne, I'm willing to help where I can but I
> mentioned gnokii in this case just because I knew of its existence. I do
> remember playing with it a year or two ago but I'm sure there are other
> people better qualified to talk about it. I'd probably just copy bits of
> the manual.
>
Yes, it was directed at you :-)  

So, François, if you install it, once you've had a little time to find your way 
around, will you help us with this?

Anne


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Re: myqsl dummy needs help

2009-02-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 16 February 2009, Robert L Cochran wrote:
>http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html
>
>http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/privilege-system.html
>
All of which assume that the simple mysql shell works.  It doesn't, can't 
connect r...@localhost, error 1045

>Robert L Cochran wrote:
>> There is a 'root'@'localhost' account, but it has no password. For more
>> information see the MySQL knowledgebase at www.mysql.com.
>>
>> Been there, done that.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> Craig White wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 11:06 -0500, Robert L Cochran wrote:
 All the heavier-weight database engines have their own user accounts, so
 they can grant or restrict permissions to various databases and tables
 based on who the user is. MySQL does this. Even though mysql has a root
 user that user is totally separate from the OS root account. You can
 also have a mysql user account named mickey even though your host box
 does not have such a user. So think only in terms of the defined MySQL
 users.

 You need to reset the MySQL root user password.

 There may be no password to start with. I wonder what happens if you
 just press enter when prompted for the password. If there is no
 password, then you can set one using mysqladmin. When you first start
 the mysqld server using 'service start mysqld' the syntax of the command
 is explained to you right on the terminal window.

 One more point. If you want to assign a password to a user on a specific
 host machine, such as 'mickey'@'mickeymouse.m1.org' then I believe that
 at the time someone attempts to log in with that username the actual
 machine name must resolve correctly on dns to 'mickeymouse.m1.org' or
 the user 'mickey' must have a password defined for the localhost machine
 ('mickey'@'localhost').

 To do reset the root password correctly, you can find copious details on
 the MySQL knowledgebase. Go to www.mysql.com and search off their
 knowledgebase. There is a method described for changing the password for
 the root user, but it is fairly complicated. I've used it successfully
 once or twice before when I made a mess of my own mysql root password.

 Another great resource is to read Paul DuBois book "MySQL". It is really
 the bible of all things MySQL. If you intend to use MySQL seriously then
 this book is mandatory purchasing and reading.
>>>
>>> 
>>> I think original setup for mysql is for root user via local socket and
>>> not via localhost so there actually isn't an account for r...@localhost
>>> thus attempting to connect via tcp/ip as root is doomed to fail out of
>>> the box.
>>>
>>> Craig



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Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

2009-02-16 Thread Mark Haney
Arthur Pemberton wrote:

> 
> 
> If a component you want requires a resource, it is, by definition,
> necessary. Or are you using an alternate definition of necessary.

No, that works for me, however, the OP mentions KDE4.2 /requiring/
MySQL.  And, no it does not require it for every instance.  But yes if
it is a component you want, it is necessary.  But that's splitting
hairs.  KDE4.2 runs just fine without akonadi, therefor it does not
require MySQL.   If for whatever reason 4.2 would NOT run fine without
MySQL, then I'd agree with you.  To me, akonadi is useless and a waste
of resources, much like Beagle is on GNOME.

But then, to me GNOME is a waste of resources.  I'd like to speak to the
goon decided on GNOME's latest interface. If anything, GNOME is Linux
Vista.  It's poorly designed and with no thoughts to whether the end
user finds it usable or not.


> 
> As an uninformed observer, the requirement of mysql-server seems over
> kill, but it's a 21MB download that only consumes as much resources as
> is required at any one time.
> 


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Re: myqsl dummy needs help

2009-02-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 16 February 2009, Robert L Cochran wrote:
>That is to say, on the initial installation of a MySQL server, there is
>indeed a 'root'@'localhost' account, but it has no password. See page
>609 of MySQL, Third Edition, by Paul DuBois and read through the next
>several pages.
>
>I just did this for a new MySQL installation on one of my test boxes and
>was able to set the root password with only a little fussiness from
>mysqladmin. I first set the password for localhost, 

There is no localhost in my /etc/passwd file, do I need to adduser first?

>then logged into the 
>mysql server as 'root'@'localhost' and set the password for
>'root'@'my.box.name'. You need to set both these passwords for root.
>Then I tested my login and did a few easy queries such as 'show
>databases;' and I was all set.
>
>Bob
>
>Robert L Cochran wrote:
>> There is a 'root'@'localhost' account, but it has no password. For more
>> information see the MySQL knowledgebase at www.mysql.com.
>>
>> Been there, done that.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> Craig White wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 11:06 -0500, Robert L Cochran wrote:
 All the heavier-weight database engines have their own user accounts, so
 they can grant or restrict permissions to various databases and tables
 based on who the user is. MySQL does this. Even though mysql has a root
 user that user is totally separate from the OS root account. You can
 also have a mysql user account named mickey even though your host box
 does not have such a user. So think only in terms of the defined MySQL
 users.

 You need to reset the MySQL root user password.

 There may be no password to start with. I wonder what happens if you
 just press enter when prompted for the password. If there is no
 password, then you can set one using mysqladmin. When you first start
 the mysqld server using 'service start mysqld' the syntax of the command
 is explained to you right on the terminal window.

 One more point. If you want to assign a password to a user on a specific
 host machine, such as 'mickey'@'mickeymouse.m1.org' then I believe that
 at the time someone attempts to log in with that username the actual
 machine name must resolve correctly on dns to 'mickeymouse.m1.org' or
 the user 'mickey' must have a password defined for the localhost machine
 ('mickey'@'localhost').

 To do reset the root password correctly, you can find copious details on
 the MySQL knowledgebase. Go to www.mysql.com and search off their
 knowledgebase. There is a method described for changing the password for
 the root user, but it is fairly complicated. I've used it successfully
 once or twice before when I made a mess of my own mysql root password.

 Another great resource is to read Paul DuBois book "MySQL". It is really
 the bible of all things MySQL. If you intend to use MySQL seriously then
 this book is mandatory purchasing and reading.
>>>
>>> 
>>> I think original setup for mysql is for root user via local socket and
>>> not via localhost so there actually isn't an account for r...@localhost
>>> thus attempting to connect via tcp/ip as root is doomed to fail out of
>>> the box.
>>>
>>> Craig



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Re: myqsl dummy needs help

2009-02-16 Thread Mike Wright

Gene Heskett wrote:



/tmp itself is drwxr-xr-x  amanda disk   system_u:object_r:tmp_t:s0   tmp
but nearly everything in it is root:root except the amanda and amanda-debug 
directories.  So I just changed tmp to drwxrwxrwx  But that also didn't change

anything. Or did it, now the log shows this when I restart mysqld:



Hi Gene.  You also need to execute "chmod +t /tmp".  I think your 
permissions should be drwxrwxrwt.


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Re: qemu-kvm: qns regarding network and usb keyboard setup

2009-02-16 Thread gary artim
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:22 AM, suvayu ali  wrote:
> 2009/2/15 Kevin Kofler :
>> suvayu ali wrote:
>>> Neither can I go to a virtual terminal using Ctrl+Alt+. everytime
>>> I press Ctrl+Alt it releases the keyboard input and I am back in the host.
>>
>> Even if the grab wasn't released by Ctrl+Alt, the key would still be
>> intercepted by the host. This happens at X11 level, so the key doesn't even
>> reach applications such as QEMU-KVM.
>>
> how do I get around this?
>
>>Kevin Kofler
>>
>
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I had a similar problem running vmplayer on fc10 and had to add to :

/etc/vmware/config :

xkeymap.keycode.108 = 0x138 # Alt_R
xkeymap.keycode.106 = 0x135 # KP_Divide
xkeymap.keycode.104 = 0x11c # KP_Enter
xkeymap.keycode.111 = 0x148 # Up
xkeymap.keycode.116 = 0x150 # Down
xkeymap.keycode.113 = 0x14b # Left
xkeymap.keycode.114 = 0x14d # Right
xkeymap.keycode.105 = 0x11d # Control_R
xkeymap.keycode.118 = 0x152 # Insert
xkeymap.keycode.119 = 0x153 # Delete
xkeymap.keycode.110 = 0x147 # Home
xkeymap.keycode.115 = 0x14f # End
xkeymap.keycode.112 = 0x149 # Prior
xkeymap.keycode.117 = 0x151 # Next
xkeymap.keycode.78 = 0x46 # Scroll_Lock
xkeymap.keycode.127 = 0x100 # Pause
xkeymap.keycode.133 = 0x15b # Meta_L
xkeymap.keycode.134 = 0x15c # Meta_R
xkeymap.keycode.135 = 0x15d # Menu

the arrow keys work again. not sure if this is even closely equivilant.

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F10: Unable to save sessions

2009-02-16 Thread Daniel B. Thurman

I have downloaded and updated packages that I wanted
and yet, I cannot seem to be able to save my desktop sessions.

Does anyone have this problem or know how to fix this or if
a big was submitted?

Thanks!
Dan

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Re: myqsl dummy needs help

2009-02-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 16 February 2009, Robert L Cochran wrote:
>That is to say, on the initial installation of a MySQL server, there is
>indeed a 'root'@'localhost' account, but it has no password. See page
>609 of MySQL, Third Edition, by Paul DuBois and read through the next
>several pages.
>
>I just did this for a new MySQL installation on one of my test boxes and
>was able to set the root password with only a little fussiness from
>mysqladmin. I first set the password for localhost, then logged into the
>mysql server as 'root'@'localhost' and set the password for
>'root'@'my.box.name'. You need to set both these passwords for root.
>Then I tested my login and did a few easy queries such as 'show
>databases;' and I was all set.
>
>Bob
>
>Robert L Cochran wrote:
>> There is a 'root'@'localhost' account, but it has no password. For more
>> information see the MySQL knowledgebase at www.mysql.com.
>>
>> Been there, done that.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> Craig White wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 11:06 -0500, Robert L Cochran wrote:
 All the heavier-weight database engines have their own user accounts, so
 they can grant or restrict permissions to various databases and tables
 based on who the user is. MySQL does this. Even though mysql has a root
 user that user is totally separate from the OS root account. You can
 also have a mysql user account named mickey even though your host box
 does not have such a user. So think only in terms of the defined MySQL
 users.

 You need to reset the MySQL root user password.

I have done this 5 times now.

 There may be no password to start with. I wonder what happens if you
 just press enter when prompted for the password. If there is no
 password, then you can set one using mysqladmin.

mysqladmin is also being denied access.
[r...@coyote /]# mysqladmin
mysqladmin  Ver 8.41 Distrib 5.0.45, for redhat-linux-gnu on i386
Copyright (C) 2000-2006 MySQL AB
This software comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. This is free software,
and you are welcome to modify and redistribute it under the GPL license

Administration program for the mysqld daemon.
Usage: mysqladmin [OPTIONS] command command
  -c, --count=#   Number of iterations to make. This works with -i
  (--sleep) only.
  -#, --debug[=name]  Output debug log. Often this is 'd:t:o,filename'.
  -f, --force Don't ask for confirmation on drop database; with
  multiple commands, continue even if an error occurs.
  -C, --compress  Use compression in server/client protocol.
  --character-sets-dir=name
  Directory where character sets are.
  --default-character-set=name
  Set the default character set.
  -?, --help  Display this help and exit.
  -h, --host=name Connect to host.
  -p, --password[=name]
  Password to use when connecting to server. If password is
  not given it's asked from the tty.
  -P, --port=#Port number to use for connection.
  --protocol=name The protocol of connection (tcp,socket,pipe,memory).
  -r, --relative  Show difference between current and previous values when
  used with -i. Currently works only with extended-status.
  -O, --set-variable=name
  Change the value of a variable. Please note that this
  option is deprecated; you can set variables directly with
  --variable-name=value.
  -s, --silentSilently exit if one can't connect to server.
  -S, --socket=name   Socket file to use for connection.
  -i, --sleep=#   Execute commands again and again with a sleep between.
  --ssl   Enable SSL for connection (automatically enabled with
  other flags). Disable with --skip-ssl.
  --ssl-ca=name   CA file in PEM format (check OpenSSL docs, implies
  --ssl).
  --ssl-capath=name   CA directory (check OpenSSL docs, implies --ssl).
  --ssl-cert=name X509 cert in PEM format (implies --ssl).
  --ssl-cipher=name   SSL cipher to use (implies --ssl).
  --ssl-key=name  X509 key in PEM format (implies --ssl).
  --ssl-verify-server-cert
  Verify server's "Common Name" in its cert against
  hostname used when connecting. This option is disabled by
  default.
  -u, --user=name User for login if not current user.
  -v, --verbose   Write more information.
  -V, --version   Output version information and exit.
  -E, --vertical  Print output vertically. Is similar to --relative, but
  prints output vertically.
  -w, --wait[=#]  Wait and retry if connection is down.
  --connect_timeout=#
  --shutdown_timeout=#

Variables (--variable-name=value)
and boolean options {FALSE|TRUE}  Value (after reading options)
- -
count 

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

2009-02-16 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Martín Marqués
 wrote:
> 2009/2/16 Arthur Pemberton :
>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Martín Marqués
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> IMHO, this is the beginning of the end of KDE
>>
>> Because some portions of it require a free database engine? Seriously?
>
> Not becuase of that. Because it's starting to use resources which are
> totally unnecesary. It's starting to look like the Linux Vista: Nice,
> but useless.


If a component you want requires a resource, it is, by definition,
necessary. Or are you using an alternate definition of necessary.

As an uninformed observer, the requirement of mysql-server seems over
kill, but it's a 21MB download that only consumes as much resources as
is required at any one time.

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Re: connecting cell phone

2009-02-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 16:18 +, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Monday 16 February 2009 15:46:45 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 16:09 +0100, François Patte wrote:
> > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > > Hash: SHA1
> > >
> > > Bonjour,
> > >
> > > I have cell phone Nokia 3120 and I want to connect it to my computer
> > > with a usb data cable.
> >
> > Try gnokii (yum install gnokii).
> >
> Hmm - userbase could really use a Tutorial section on connecting devices like 
> this.  I don't suppose you could start it off?  If it helps I'll prepare a 
> place-saver for you, and help if you want a basic template to work to

If that was directed at me Anne, I'm willing to help where I can but I
mentioned gnokii in this case just because I knew of its existence. I do
remember playing with it a year or two ago but I'm sure there are other
people better qualified to talk about it. I'd probably just copy bits of
the manual.

Cheers

poc

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Re: myqsl dummy needs help

2009-02-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 16 February 2009, Robert L Cochran wrote:
>There is a 'root'@'localhost' account, but it has no password. For more
>information see the MySQL knowledgebase at www.mysql.com.
>
>Been there, done that.
>
>Bob

So have I Bob, and other than disclosing my /tmp perms weren't as wide open as 
they needed to be, which was denying INNoDB permission to write a scratch 
file, no change.  I even ripped it out and reinstalled even more of it, 
again, no change.

The only way I can access it is with:
mysqld_safe --skip-grant-tables &

So where is this "grant-tables"?

>Craig White wrote:
>> On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 11:06 -0500, Robert L Cochran wrote:
>>> All the heavier-weight database engines have their own user accounts, so
>>> they can grant or restrict permissions to various databases and tables
>>> based on who the user is. MySQL does this. Even though mysql has a root
>>> user that user is totally separate from the OS root account. You can
>>> also have a mysql user account named mickey even though your host box
>>> does not have such a user. So think only in terms of the defined MySQL
>>> users.
>>>
>>> You need to reset the MySQL root user password.
>>>
>>> There may be no password to start with. I wonder what happens if you
>>> just press enter when prompted for the password. If there is no
>>> password, then you can set one using mysqladmin. When you first start
>>> the mysqld server using 'service start mysqld' the syntax of the command
>>> is explained to you right on the terminal window.
>>>
>>> One more point. If you want to assign a password to a user on a specific
>>> host machine, such as 'mickey'@'mickeymouse.m1.org' then I believe that
>>> at the time someone attempts to log in with that username the actual
>>> machine name must resolve correctly on dns to 'mickeymouse.m1.org' or
>>> the user 'mickey' must have a password defined for the localhost machine
>>> ('mickey'@'localhost').
>>>
>>> To do reset the root password correctly, you can find copious details on
>>> the MySQL knowledgebase. Go to www.mysql.com and search off their
>>> knowledgebase. There is a method described for changing the password for
>>> the root user, but it is fairly complicated. I've used it successfully
>>> once or twice before when I made a mess of my own mysql root password.
>>>
>>> Another great resource is to read Paul DuBois book "MySQL". It is really
>>> the bible of all things MySQL. If you intend to use MySQL seriously then
>>> this book is mandatory purchasing and reading.
>>
>> 
>> I think original setup for mysql is for root user via local socket and
>> not via localhost so there actually isn't an account for r...@localhost
>> thus attempting to connect via tcp/ip as root is doomed to fail out of
>> the box.
>>
>> Craig



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Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

2009-02-16 Thread Mark Haney
Martín Marqués wrote:
> 2009/2/16 Mark Haney :
>> Martín Marqués wrote:
>>> 2009/2/16 Arthur Pemberton :
 On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Martín Marqués
  wrote:
> IMHO, this is the beginning of the end of KDE
 Because some portions of it require a free database engine? Seriously?
>>> Not becuase of that. Because it's starting to use resources which are
>>> totally unnecesary. It's starting to look like the Linux Vista: Nice,
>>> but useless.
>>>
>> What part of KDE requires MySQL server?  None that I am aware of. But
>> then I build my own from source and not rely on these asinine package
>> dependencies from binary packages.  There are NO KDE components that
>> /require/ MySQL.  You can' specify database support, but it's not required.
> 
> Please, enlight me. How can akonadi work without a mysql instance?
> 
> http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/PIM/Akonadi#Which_DBMS_does_Akonadi_use.3F
> 
> BTW, is there a way to disable akonadi and still work with KDE destop?
> 

And yes akonadi does require MySWL, but KDE 4.2 does NOT require
akonadi.  So my point is still very valid.


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Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

2009-02-16 Thread Mark Haney
Martín Marqués wrote:
> 2009/2/16 Mark Haney :
>> Martín Marqués wrote:
>>> 2009/2/16 Arthur Pemberton :
 On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Martín Marqués
  wrote:
> IMHO, this is the beginning of the end of KDE
 Because some portions of it require a free database engine? Seriously?
>>> Not becuase of that. Because it's starting to use resources which are
>>> totally unnecesary. It's starting to look like the Linux Vista: Nice,
>>> but useless.
>>>
>> What part of KDE requires MySQL server?  None that I am aware of. But
>> then I build my own from source and not rely on these asinine package
>> dependencies from binary packages.  There are NO KDE components that
>> /require/ MySQL.  You can' specify database support, but it's not required.
> 
> Please, enlight me. How can akonadi work without a mysql instance?
> 
> http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/PIM/Akonadi#Which_DBMS_does_Akonadi_use.3F
> 
> BTW, is there a way to disable akonadi and still work with KDE destop?
> 

Of course. I don't run akonadi server at all.  And it works just fine.
As for all the comments about KDE being 'Vista' I'd like to point out
that GNOME uses Beagle (if I recall) which is very similar to Akonadi.
GNOME's latest releases suck so bad I will never go back.  KDE 4.2 is
the best version of KDE4 and is simply amazing.


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Re: myqsl dummy needs help

2009-02-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 16 February 2009, Craig White wrote:
>On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 11:06 -0500, Robert L Cochran wrote:
>> All the heavier-weight database engines have their own user accounts, so
>> they can grant or restrict permissions to various databases and tables
>> based on who the user is. MySQL does this. Even though mysql has a root
>> user that user is totally separate from the OS root account. You can
>> also have a mysql user account named mickey even though your host box
>> does not have such a user. So think only in terms of the defined MySQL
>> users.
>>
>> You need to reset the MySQL root user password.
>>
>> There may be no password to start with. I wonder what happens if you
>> just press enter when prompted for the password. If there is no
>> password, then you can set one using mysqladmin. When you first start
>> the mysqld server using 'service start mysqld' the syntax of the command
>> is explained to you right on the terminal window.
>>
>> One more point. If you want to assign a password to a user on a specific
>> host machine, such as 'mickey'@'mickeymouse.m1.org' then I believe that
>> at the time someone attempts to log in with that username the actual
>> machine name must resolve correctly on dns to 'mickeymouse.m1.org' or
>> the user 'mickey' must have a password defined for the localhost machine
>> ('mickey'@'localhost').
>>
>> To do reset the root password correctly, you can find copious details on
>> the MySQL knowledgebase. Go to www.mysql.com and search off their
>> knowledgebase. There is a method described for changing the password for
>> the root user, but it is fairly complicated. I've used it successfully
>> once or twice before when I made a mess of my own mysql root password.
>>
>> Another great resource is to read Paul DuBois book "MySQL". It is really
>> the bible of all things MySQL. If you intend to use MySQL seriously then
>> this book is mandatory purchasing and reading.
>
>
>I think original setup for mysql is for root user via local socket and
>not via localhost so there actually isn't an account for r...@localhost
>thus attempting to connect via tcp/ip as root is doomed to fail out of
>the box.
>
>Craig

With all due respect Craig, what the hell use is it then when ALL the 
documentation is wrong?

Now, I just had the bright idea of looking at the mysqld.log after ripping 
it all out and putting even more of it back in, and see this:

[r...@coyote etc]# cat /var/log/mysqld.log
090216 13:30:36  mysqld ended

090216 13:30:45  mysqld started
/usr/libexec/mysqld: Can't create/write to file '/tmp/ibnoIZas' (Errcode: 13)
090216 13:30:45  InnoDB: Error: unable to create temporary file; errno: 13
090216 13:30:45 [Note] /usr/libexec/mysqld: ready for connections.
Version: '5.0.45'  socket: '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock'  port: 3306  Source 
distribution

So obviously /tmp doesn't have the right perms.  Or at least I assume (there 
is that word again) that an error 13 is permissions related.  Selinux is in 
targeted mode, enabled, and it isn't fussing.

/tmp itself is drwxr-xr-x  amanda disk   system_u:object_r:tmp_t:s0   tmp
but nearly everything in it is root:root except the amanda and amanda-debug 
directories.  So I just changed tmp to drwxrwxrwx  But that also didn't change
anything. Or did it, now the log shows this when I restart mysqld:

090216 13:51:44  mysqld started
InnoDB: The first specified data file ./ibdata1 did not exist:
InnoDB: a new database to be created!
090216 13:51:44  InnoDB: Setting file ./ibdata1 size to 10 MB
InnoDB: Database physically writes the file full: wait...
090216 13:51:45  InnoDB: Log file ./ib_logfile0 did not exist: new to be created
InnoDB: Setting log file ./ib_logfile0 size to 5 MB
InnoDB: Database physically writes the file full: wait...
090216 13:51:45  InnoDB: Log file ./ib_logfile1 did not exist: new to be created
InnoDB: Setting log file ./ib_logfile1 size to 5 MB
InnoDB: Database physically writes the file full: wait...
InnoDB: Doublewrite buffer not found: creating new
InnoDB: Doublewrite buffer created
InnoDB: Creating foreign key constraint system tables
InnoDB: Foreign key constraint system tables created
090216 13:51:46  InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 0 0
090216 13:51:46 [Note] /usr/libexec/mysqld: ready for connections.
Version: '5.0.45'  socket: '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock'  port: 3306  Source 
distribution

Which says one problem seems to be sorted, at the expense of a huge security 
hole in /tmp as anyone can do anything there now.

Ok, so now try a login again:
[r...@coyote /]# mysql -u root -p
Enter password:
ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: 
YES)
[r...@coyote /]# mysql -u root -p
Enter password:
ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: 
NO)
[r...@coyote /]#

Seems like this is where I started, isn't it?

Now that the tmp perms is sorted, I suppose I need to go back and do all that 
other stuff again...

Which I just did, and di

Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

2009-02-16 Thread Martín Marqués
2009/2/16 Mark Haney :
> Martín Marqués wrote:
>> 2009/2/16 Arthur Pemberton :
>>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Martín Marqués
>>>  wrote:
 IMHO, this is the beginning of the end of KDE
>>> Because some portions of it require a free database engine? Seriously?
>>
>> Not becuase of that. Because it's starting to use resources which are
>> totally unnecesary. It's starting to look like the Linux Vista: Nice,
>> but useless.
>>
>
> What part of KDE requires MySQL server?  None that I am aware of. But
> then I build my own from source and not rely on these asinine package
> dependencies from binary packages.  There are NO KDE components that
> /require/ MySQL.  You can' specify database support, but it's not required.

Please, enlight me. How can akonadi work without a mysql instance?

http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/PIM/Akonadi#Which_DBMS_does_Akonadi_use.3F

BTW, is there a way to disable akonadi and still work with KDE destop?

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Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

2009-02-16 Thread Mark Haney
Martín Marqués wrote:
> 2009/2/16 Arthur Pemberton :
>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Martín Marqués
>>  wrote:
>>> IMHO, this is the beginning of the end of KDE
>> Because some portions of it require a free database engine? Seriously?
> 
> Not becuase of that. Because it's starting to use resources which are
> totally unnecesary. It's starting to look like the Linux Vista: Nice,
> but useless.
> 

What part of KDE requires MySQL server?  None that I am aware of. But
then I build my own from source and not rely on these asinine package
dependencies from binary packages.  There are NO KDE components that
/require/ MySQL.  You can' specify database support, but it's not required.



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Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server

2009-02-16 Thread Martín Marqués
2009/2/16 Arthur Pemberton :
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Martín Marqués
>  wrote:
>>
>> IMHO, this is the beginning of the end of KDE
>
> Because some portions of it require a free database engine? Seriously?

Not becuase of that. Because it's starting to use resources which are
totally unnecesary. It's starting to look like the Linux Vista: Nice,
but useless.

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Re: myqsl dummy needs help

2009-02-16 Thread Robert L Cochran
With databases, you need to do careful research first and foremost.
Otherwise you make a big mess and it becomes far worse to fix.

http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html

Bob


Mike Wright wrote:
> Gene Heskett wrote:
>> On Monday 16 February 2009, Robert L Cochran wrote:
>>> All the heavier-weight database engines have their own user
>>> accounts, so
>>> they can grant or restrict permissions to various databases and tables
>>> based on who the user is. MySQL does this. Even though mysql has a root
>>> user that user is totally separate from the OS root account. You can
>>> also have a mysql user account named mickey even though your host box
>>> does not have such a user. So think only in terms of the defined MySQL
>>> users.
>>>
>>> You need to reset the MySQL root user password.
>>>
>>> There may be no password to start with. I wonder what happens if you
>>> just press enter when prompted for the password. If there is no
>>> password, then you can set one using mysqladmin. When you first start
>>> the mysqld server using 'service start mysqld' the syntax of the
>>> command
>>> is explained to you right on the terminal window.
>>>
>>> One more point. If you want to assign a password to a user on a
>>> specific
>>> host machine, such as 'mickey'@'mickeymouse.m1.org' then I believe that
>>> at the time someone attempts to log in with that username the actual
>>> machine name must resolve correctly on dns to 'mickeymouse.m1.org' or
>>> the user 'mickey' must have a password defined for the localhost
>>> machine
>>> ('mickey'@'localhost').
>>>
>>> To do reset the root password correctly, you can find copious
>>> details on
>>> the MySQL knowledgebase. Go to www.mysql.com and search off their
>>> knowledgebase. There is a method described for changing the password
>>> for
>>> the root user, but it is fairly complicated. I've used it successfully
>>> once or twice before when I made a mess of my own mysql root password.
>>
>> I have now done that procedure twice, setting a different passwd the
>> last time in case mysql has a password length limit less that the
>> size of my root pw.
>>
>> It didn't help, I'm still getting exactly the same error.  How can I
>> nuke it all & start from a truly scratch install?
>
> Hi Gene,
>
> Before you do that I have an idea.
>
> I don't install MySql very often but I seem to recall an alert given
> upon installation advising the use of mysqladmin to set the initial
> root password.  On a clean install the password is the empty string
> (return).
>
> "mysqladmin password 'secretcode'"
>
> After that you use the GRANT command to control access to the rdb.
>
> Hope I'm not all wet here.  Sometimes my CRS gets in the way ;)
>
> Mike Wright
>

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Re: What is an "internal Extender?" (KDE 4.2)

2009-02-16 Thread Prakhar Agarwal
I also tried to look around what this thing is, but unfortunately could not
decipher its use.

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