Re: [Simplify]: Has anyone got this one working? Dvico Dual 4 DVB tuner - refusing to work since new year

2009-02-21 Thread Da Rock
On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 21:20 +1000, Da Rock wrote:
> I picked up 2 of these cards because I read up on them at linuxtv.org,
> and found them to be supported reasonably well. Installed them and got
> them going before the end of the year.
> 
> Around the time of the new year coming in, some updates occurred and I
> lost them again. ls /dev/dvb showed on the one adapter when there should
> have been 5 (leadtek hybrid is also installed). I tried reinstalling
> drivers from linuxtv mercurial sources, but after 3 attempts and several
> kernel updates its a no go.
> 
> I can run modprobe and load the modules, lsmod shows them there and
> loaded, but after reboot (which is the only way to get them working once
> modules have been loaded- they're dual tuners running off a usb
> controller on the board; obviously I have no way of unplugging and
> replugging in as usb) they're gone again.
> 
> This is (was) a fresh install of F10 when I first got them working, but
> since updates forget it.
> 
> Any help here guys?
> 
> 
> > Linux xx.xxx.xx 2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Jan 21 
> > 01:33:24 EST 2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> > 
> > lsmod
> > Module  Size  Used by
> > bridge 56224  0 
> > stp10756  1 bridge
> > bnep   22016  2 
> > sco19204  2 
> > l2cap  28544  3 bnep
> > bluetooth  60068  5 bnep,sco,l2cap
> > sunrpc191208  3 
> > ip6t_REJECT12160  2 
> > nf_conntrack_ipv6  22984  5 
> > ip6table_filter11136  1 
> > ip6_tables 26128  1 ip6table_filter
> > ipv6  287272  32 ip6t_REJECT,nf_conntrack_ipv6
> > cpufreq_ondemand   15504  4 
> > powernow_k824836  0 
> > freq_table 12928  2 cpufreq_ondemand,powernow_k8
> > dm_multipath   23704  0 
> > uinput 16128  0 
> > cx2270214212  1 
> > cx88_dvb   25604  0 
> > cx88_vp3054_i2c10880  1 cx88_dvb
> > videobuf_dvb   13316  1 cx88_dvb
> > dvb_core   84252  2 cx88_dvb,videobuf_dvb
> > tuner_simple   20756  2 
> > tuner_types25472  1 tuner_simple
> > tda988718564  1 
> > tda829018820  0 
> > tuner  31820  0 
> > snd_seq_dummy  11396  0 
> > snd_hda_intel 478752  0 
> > cx8802 23684  1 cx88_dvb
> > snd_seq_oss39104  0 
> > cx8800 40548  0 
> > cx88_alsa  20488  0 
> > snd_seq_midi_event 14848  1 snd_seq_oss
> > cx88xx 74920  4 cx88_dvb,cx8802,cx8800,cx88_alsa
> > snd_seq61968  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
> > snd_seq_device 15380  3 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
> > snd_pcm_oss52224  0 
> > snd_mixer_oss  23168  1 snd_pcm_oss
> > snd_pcm85512  3 snd_hda_intel,cx88_alsa,snd_pcm_oss
> > ir_common  45060  1 cx88xx
> > snd_timer  30352  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
> > i2c_algo_bit   13956  2 cx88_vp3054_i2c,cx88xx
> > compat_ioctl32 16512  1 cx8800
> > videodev   40704  4 tuner,cx8800,cx88xx,compat_ioctl32
> > v4l1_compat21380  1 videodev
> > v4l2_common18560  2 tuner,cx8800
> > tveeprom   21508  1 cx88xx
> > i2c_core   29216  10 
> > cx22702,cx88_vp3054_i2c,tuner_simple,tda9887,tda8290,tuner,cx88xx,i2c_algo_bit,v4l2_common,tveeprom
> > btcx_risc  12296  4 cx8802,cx8800,cx88_alsa,cx88xx
> > videobuf_dma_sg19972  5 cx88_dvb,cx8802,cx8800,cx88_alsa,cx88xx
> > pcspkr 11008  0 
> > floppy 66216  0 
> > videobuf_core  24836  5 
> > videobuf_dvb,cx8802,cx8800,cx88xx,videobuf_dma_sg
> > firewire_ohci  30468  0 
> > snd_page_alloc 16656  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
> > serio_raw  14084  0 
> > firewire_core  45504  1 firewire_ohci
> > snd_hwdep  16392  1 snd_hda_intel
> > crc_itu_t  10240  1 firewire_core
> > snd68984  11 
> > snd_seq_dummy,snd_hda_intel,snd_seq_oss,cx88_alsa,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_hwdep
> > soundcore  14992  1 snd
> > forcedeth  61840  0 
> > pata_amd   21252  0 
> > joydev 19328  0 
> > wmi14912  0 
> > usb_storage   109216  0 
> > ata_generic13956  0 
> > pata_acpi  13056  0 
> > 
> > 
> > Some of dmesg:
> > 
> > early_node_map[2] active PFN ranges
> > 0: 0x0010 -> 0x009f
> > 0: 0x0100 -> 0x0007fee0
> > On node 0 totalpages: 523887
> >   DMA zone: 1729 pages, LIFO batch:0
> >   DMA32 zone: 512795 pages, LIFO batch:31
> > ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x1008
> > ACPI: Local APIC address 0xfee0
> > ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x00] lapic_id[0x00

Re: Extending Expiration Date of an Already-Expired GPG Key

2009-02-21 Thread Tim
Ed Greshko:
>>> I'm using enigmail .95.7 on Tbird with gpg (GnuPG) 1.4.3 and it
>>> reports signature verification failed after importing key from
>>> keyserver.
 
Tim:
>> It would be interesting to find out if this changes after a few days

Ed Greshko:  
> Don't knowbut the expiry date of the key imported is 2/21/2010 so
> I think it is the latest incantation.

Have a look at what's said about the signatures when you query gpg
directly, or via one of the key managers.  It'll probably be more
revealing than the messages passed along by a mail client.




> ...digital spam is nothing.  My anti-spam prevents 99% of the spam
> from reaching my inbox.  Try living in Taiwan  Every day you come
> hope to a mailbox stuffed with flyers of one type or another.  Along
> with the PITA of having to sort through the junk to find the important
> junk (a.k.a. bills) you then have to dispose of the junk and you come
> to realize all of the paper being wasted.   I can control the digital
> spamnothing stops the physical spam.  :-(

I'm lucky the spam is low, but it still pisses me off.  We get a lot of
junk in the postbox, too.  And, if you get the newspaper, you get the
same thing inserted inside it.  It filled a rather large box up one
Christmas, I was sorely tempted to take the box to one of the department
stores responsible for most of it, and dump it on them.  These days I
stuff torn up junk mail in those reply paid envelopes, and send junk
mail to another junk mailer.

The phone spam is the worst.  It interrupts what you're doing, and now
they're getting rude at people who don't go along with them.  I got
really mad at one of them, swore quite profusely at them for wasting my
time, lying to me, and threatened them with more foul language if they
ever rang back.  Then looked up to see my mother and sister looking
quite shocked at me.  I'd forgotten I wasn't alone in the room.  ;-)

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Re: MCE Remote Control

2009-02-21 Thread Da Rock
On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 20:56 -0800, john wendel wrote:
> I got a cheap MCE remote control (usb interface), and thought I'd give 
> it a try. After reading the lirc documentation, my brain exploded, so I 
> thought I'd just plug the sucker in and see what happened.
> 
> Well, what happened is that the keyboard stopped working along with the 
> mouse buttons. So, I stopped X and plugged the receiver in. Now I could 
> see that some devices got created in /dev/input, namely "event4", 
> "event5", and "mouse1". Doing lsusb showed me that two new usb devices 
> existed, a HID keyboard, and a HID mouse.
> 
> So, can someone give me a clue as to how to proceed in getting this 
> thing to be useful?

lirc can be tough to nut out at first- but keep persisting. Try and
follow the setup instructions and see how it goes from there. You need
to tell lirc what each button (or more precisely its keycode signal) is
supposed to do (provide a name, that is).

Then you need to create a conf file with instructions on what to do when
the buttons are pressed: the trick here is that there are "mode"s that
you can use. Press say the tv button and lirc is supposed to enter a
mode that pressing any button on the remote will only do "tv" things (if
thats how you decide to set it up). The tricky part comes in that when
you call a program from the previous mode and enter a new mode the
program stays in the old mode happy trails! Use the exec program for
lirc and external "remote" programs can help to bypass this, outside of
that I haven't a clue :)

Unfortunately, it may be the case that this "remote" may not be a
remote; and so you might need to get into keycodes and such in your
desktop system. lirc only works for infrared signals, not radio. So
maybe you might need to do some more research on google, or just hack it
as you see fit and hope for the best- as long as your keyboard and mouse
still work?

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Re: GreaseMonkey,in Firefox, Setup New User ??

2009-02-21 Thread Matthew Flaschen
Jim wrote:
> Setting up New User Script in Greasemonky, the line below I guess is
> about where is the script, the script I'm using is in
> /home/user/WVC210 , what would I enter for @namespace ?
> 
> @namespace A scope within which @name should be unique. 0-1
> The domain of the script's file.

It's not that important.  It's just supposed to be a unique ID.  You
could enter your web site.  If you don't have a web site, then use your
email.

Matt Flaschen

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Re: font problem in Fedora 10/Thunderbird

2009-02-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 10:58 +1030, Tim wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 09:50 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > Thunderbird is a Gnome application so you could try playing with the
> > Gnome font settings.
> 
> Do Thunderbird and Firefox really *have* to be Gnome applications?  Is
> there some advantage in lumbering them with this on Linux?  They
> certainly aren't Gnome-dependent on the Windows platform!

Ask the Mozilla devels. I suspect they are deeply uninterested in
supporting more than one desktop on Linux, and Gnome is it.

poc

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Re: Extending Expiration Date of an Already-Expired GPG Key

2009-02-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 22:33 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> Robert L Cochran wrote:
> > Thanks everyone for pointing this problem out to me. How do I fix it? I
> > don't sign my emails that much but when I do I'd like a valid signature
> > to show up. Clearly I'm doing something wrong.
> 
> The basic issue is that not all keyservers "know" about the update.  For
> instance, pgp.mit.edu did not when I checked:
> 
> gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys C2C60518; gpg --list-keys C2C60518
> gpg: requesting key C2C60518 from hkp server pgp.mit.edu
> gpg: key C2C60518: "Robert L. Cochran (Greenbelt)
> " not changed
> gpg: Total number processed: 1
> gpg:  unchanged: 1
> pub   1024D/C2C60518 2008-01-19 [expired: 2009-01-18]
> uid  Robert L. Cochran (Greenbelt) 
> 
> However, the server you used did:
> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys C2C60518; gpg --list-keys
> C2C60518
> gpg: requesting key C2C60518 from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net
> gpg: key C2C60518: "Robert L. Cochran (Greenbelt)
> " 2 new signatures
> gpg: 3 marginal(s) needed, 1 complete(s) needed, PGP trust model
> gpg: depth: 0  valid:   1  signed:   0  trust: 0-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 1u
> gpg: Total number processed: 1
> gpg: new signatures: 2
> pub   1024D/C2C60518 2008-01-19 [expires: 2010-02-21]
> uid  Robert L. Cochran (Greenbelt) 
> 
> This can be remedied by sending to the uninformed keyservers.
> gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --send-keys C2C60518
> gpg: sending key C2C60518 to hkp server pgp.mit.edu
> 
> Then, we see pgp.mit.edu is now aware of the update.
> gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys C2C60518; gpg --list-keys C2C60518
> gpg: requesting key C2C60518 from hkp server pgp.mit.edu
> gpg: key C2C60518: "Robert L. Cochran (Greenbelt)
> " not changed
> gpg: Total number processed: 1
> gpg:  unchanged: 1
> pub   1024D/C2C60518 2008-01-19 [expires: 2010-02-21]
> uid  Robert L. Cochran (Greenbelt)  
> Of course, the key servers ordinarily share keys amongst themselves
> every so often.  But a manual update can't hurt.

I used the pgp.mit.edu server, but I thought I was OK as the magic
number C2C60518 was correct. I assumed that was a hash of the actual key
and hence would change when the key was updated, but apparently it's
merely an index.

poc

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Re: Swap space

2009-02-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 00:21 +, James Wilkinson wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > Has anyone actually compared the speed of pendrives versus hard disks
> > when used for swap?
> 
> Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > They have to be much slower …
> 
> I don’t think they have to be – I suspect they might be faster than hard
> disks.
> 
> What I’ve read is that the sort of flash you tend to get in these drives
> can be very slow for writes, slow to read back data in sequentially, but
> they can be a lot faster than hard drives to actually start accessing
> the data, because there’s no physical movement required to start reading
> from the disk. A quick google resulted in
> http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/security-flash-storage,1804-6.html ,
> with a couple of drives with access times a tenth of what you’d expect
> from a good hard drive, but slower sequential transfer speeds.
> 
> That leaves two questions – does the flash in question have low access
> times, or did the manufacturer come up with slow flash because no-one
> cared? And what sort of access patterns do you get for reading from
> swap?
> 
> A virtual memory system works in pages, normally of 4K¹. If you’re just
> going to read in one 4K page, then the access time is going to be much
> larger than the transfer time, even for flash: in other words, the flash
> will have got the data into RAM before the hard drive is likely to be
> anywhere near the data. So for a hard disk to be faster than
> low-access-time flash for swap, then you’re going to have to have a
> situation where the kernel wrote out around a megabyte of data to swap,
> and then read it back in continuously.
> 
> I doubt that Linux (or many other operating systems) does that. It will
> normally choose pages to swap from multiple different processes, and in
> any case, adjacent pages in swap would be unlikely to be needed back in
> RAM at the same time.
> 
> Note that the speed of writing pages to swap is not that important until
> it takes a large proportion of the flash’s time (it’s asynchronous:
> nothing’s waiting on it), or unless you suddenly have a lot of need for
> memory (which is rare: the kernel does try to keep some free memory
> about, and will only actually allocate memory when a process actually
> starts using it).
> 
> As I and others have said, just because it’s fast doesn’t mean it’s a
> good idea, and you might get through flash drives fairly quickly if you
> actually use your swap for much. (If you just have swap for emergencies,
> it might see less use than your home directory.)

You're forgetting that USB transfers consume a fair amount of cpu time,
unlike a SATA disk which is DMA. That's why I asked if anyone had
actually done a comparison. With so many complex interactions between
paging policy, system load, disk configurations, wide variations in
flash memory speeds etc., theory is a poor substitute for actual
measurement.

poc

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MCE Remote Control

2009-02-21 Thread john wendel


I got a cheap MCE remote control (usb interface), and thought I'd give 
it a try. After reading the lirc documentation, my brain exploded, so I 
thought I'd just plug the sucker in and see what happened.


Well, what happened is that the keyboard stopped working along with the 
mouse buttons. So, I stopped X and plugged the receiver in. Now I could 
see that some devices got created in /dev/input, namely "event4", 
"event5", and "mouse1". Doing lsusb showed me that two new usb devices 
existed, a HID keyboard, and a HID mouse.


So, can someone give me a clue as to how to proceed in getting this 
thing to be useful?


Thanks,

John

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panini - tool for creating perspective views

2009-02-21 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik

Not sure when it's right practice, I found interesting (for me and maybe
for others too) program "panini": http://sourceforge.net/projects/pvqt/
I made .spec, icon and .desktop file for it, and RPMS/SRPMS packages
for F9 and F10. They are at: http://hanzlici.cz/packages/fedora/panini/
I hope they maybe useful for someone.

Regards, Franta Hanzlik

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Re: Extending Expiration Date of an Already-Expired GPG Key

2009-02-21 Thread Todd Zullinger
I wrote:
> Matthew Flaschen wrote:
>> The basic issue is that not all keyservers "know" about the update.  For
>> instance, pgp.mit.edu did not when I checked:
>
> Oh well.  That keyserver should not be used anymore.  It uses outdated
> keyserver software and is known to mangle subkeys, for one.  It's use
> should be discouraged.
>
> http://marc.info/?l=gnupg-users&m=123367018729467&w=2

Hmm, not that I wanted to distract from the general point that not all
the keyservers are in sync.  So if I did, apologies. :)

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Re: Extending Expiration Date of an Already-Expired GPG Key

2009-02-21 Thread Todd Zullinger
Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> The basic issue is that not all keyservers "know" about the update.  For
> instance, pgp.mit.edu did not when I checked:

Oh well.  That keyserver should not be used anymore.  It uses outdated
keyserver software and is known to mangle subkeys, for one.  It's use
should be discouraged.

http://marc.info/?l=gnupg-users&m=123367018729467&w=2

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Re: Extending Expiration Date of an Already-Expired GPG Key

2009-02-21 Thread Robert L Cochran
Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> Robert L Cochran wrote:
>   
>> Thanks everyone for pointing this problem out to me. How do I fix it? I
>> don't sign my emails that much but when I do I'd like a valid signature
>> to show up. Clearly I'm doing something wrong.
>> 
>
> The basic issue is that not all keyservers "know" about the update.  For
> instance, pgp.mit.edu did not when I checked:
>
> gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys C2C60518; gpg --list-keys C2C60518
> gpg: requesting key C2C60518 from hkp server pgp.mit.edu
> gpg: key C2C60518: "Robert L. Cochran (Greenbelt)
> " not changed
> gpg: Total number processed: 1
> gpg:  unchanged: 1
> pub   1024D/C2C60518 2008-01-19 [expired: 2009-01-18]
> uid  Robert L. Cochran (Greenbelt) 
>
> However, the server you used did:
> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys C2C60518; gpg --list-keys
> C2C60518
> gpg: requesting key C2C60518 from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net
> gpg: key C2C60518: "Robert L. Cochran (Greenbelt)
> " 2 new signatures
> gpg: 3 marginal(s) needed, 1 complete(s) needed, PGP trust model
> gpg: depth: 0  valid:   1  signed:   0  trust: 0-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 1u
> gpg: Total number processed: 1
> gpg: new signatures: 2
> pub   1024D/C2C60518 2008-01-19 [expires: 2010-02-21]
> uid  Robert L. Cochran (Greenbelt) 
>
> This can be remedied by sending to the uninformed keyservers.
> gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --send-keys C2C60518
> gpg: sending key C2C60518 to hkp server pgp.mit.edu
>
> Then, we see pgp.mit.edu is now aware of the update.
> gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys C2C60518; gpg --list-keys C2C60518
> gpg: requesting key C2C60518 from hkp server pgp.mit.edu
> gpg: key C2C60518: "Robert L. Cochran (Greenbelt)
> " not changed
> gpg: Total number processed: 1
> gpg:  unchanged: 1
> pub   1024D/C2C60518 2008-01-19 [expires: 2010-02-21]
> uid  Robert L. Cochran (Greenbelt) 
> Of course, the key servers ordinarily share keys amongst themselves
> every so often.  But a manual update can't hurt.
>
> Matt Flaschen
>   

Thanks, Matt! I understand now.

Bob

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Re: Extending Expiration Date of an Already-Expired GPG Key

2009-02-21 Thread Matthew Flaschen
Robert L Cochran wrote:
> Thanks everyone for pointing this problem out to me. How do I fix it? I
> don't sign my emails that much but when I do I'd like a valid signature
> to show up. Clearly I'm doing something wrong.

The basic issue is that not all keyservers "know" about the update.  For
instance, pgp.mit.edu did not when I checked:

gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys C2C60518; gpg --list-keys C2C60518
gpg: requesting key C2C60518 from hkp server pgp.mit.edu
gpg: key C2C60518: "Robert L. Cochran (Greenbelt)
" not changed
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg:  unchanged: 1
pub   1024D/C2C60518 2008-01-19 [expired: 2009-01-18]
uid  Robert L. Cochran (Greenbelt) 

However, the server you used did:
gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys C2C60518; gpg --list-keys
C2C60518
gpg: requesting key C2C60518 from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net
gpg: key C2C60518: "Robert L. Cochran (Greenbelt)
" 2 new signatures
gpg: 3 marginal(s) needed, 1 complete(s) needed, PGP trust model
gpg: depth: 0  valid:   1  signed:   0  trust: 0-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 1u
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg: new signatures: 2
pub   1024D/C2C60518 2008-01-19 [expires: 2010-02-21]
uid  Robert L. Cochran (Greenbelt) 

This can be remedied by sending to the uninformed keyservers.
gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --send-keys C2C60518
gpg: sending key C2C60518 to hkp server pgp.mit.edu

Then, we see pgp.mit.edu is now aware of the update.
gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys C2C60518; gpg --list-keys C2C60518
gpg: requesting key C2C60518 from hkp server pgp.mit.edu
gpg: key C2C60518: "Robert L. Cochran (Greenbelt)
" not changed
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg:  unchanged: 1
pub   1024D/C2C60518 2008-01-19 [expires: 2010-02-21]
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Unconventional F10 installation

2009-02-21 Thread john wendel


I'd like to install F10 on a tiny box that has only a compact flash disk 
(ide interface) and a network interface. I tried cobbler, but it died 
with some strange python runtime error, so a network install is out (I'm 
too lazy to learn how to setup a PXE server).


Is it possible to do an install by running the installer as a regular 
program?


If I can't use the installer, can I move the CF disk to another F10 box 
and just copy the installation files. Is there any reason this won't 
work? After the files are copied, is there anything needed besides a 
grub install?


Thanks,

John

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Web cam recommendations?

2009-02-21 Thread Thomas Cameron
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Howdy -

I travel a pretty fair amount - over 115 nights in hotels in 2008.

I use Skype on Linux (both Fedora and RHEL) and I would love to be able
to use the web cam feature so I can see my kids before they go to bed.

Anyone got a known good web cam for this?  I've never owned a web cam so
this is completely new territory for me.

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Re: Extending Expiration Date of an Already-Expired GPG Key

2009-02-21 Thread Robert L Cochran
Ed Greshko wrote:
> Anne Wilson wrote:
>   
>> On Saturday 21 February 2009 22:11:21 Robert L Cochran wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> 0xC2C60518
>>> 
>>>   
>> That key expires on 21/02/2010 - no problem :-)
>>
>> Anne
>>   
>> 
> Really?
>
> I'm using enigmail .95.7 on Tbird with gpg (GnuPG) 1.4.3 and it reports
> signature verification failed after importing key from keyserver.
>   

Thanks everyone for pointing this problem out to me. How do I fix it? I
don't sign my emails that much but when I do I'd like a valid signature
to show up. Clearly I'm doing something wrong.

Bob

>
>
>   
>
> 
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bluez under KDE-Fedora 10

2009-02-21 Thread Timothy Murphy
How does one exchange bluetooth PINs in Fedora 10?
Apparently bluez-utils (which used to contain bluez-pin)
has disappeared, as has hcid.conf.

I tried Kdebluetooth4, but it didn't appear to do anything
as far as I could see.

When I try to connect to my bluetooth phone,
I'm asked on the phone for a PIN,
and when I give it I see in /var/log/messages
that it is sent to the computer:
--
Feb 22 01:27:13 mary bluetoothd[5101]:
pin_code_request (sba=00:15:83:BF:45:E8, dba=00:0F:DE:7B:1D:B5)
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at which point I would have thought I should receive a message
on the computer asking for the PIN.

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Re: DVD : read but can't burn

2009-02-21 Thread Ed Greshko
Croombe F. Pensom wrote:
> I have an LG CD/DVD reader/burner that, previous to this, has always
> worked. Now, suddenly, I can do everything EXCEPT burn a DVD. 
> Any ideas where to look?
> CroombeFP
>   
Same thing happened to me a few years back.  Come to find that the unit
had 2 laser...one for reading and one for burning.  Replaced the unit
and all was well.  FWIW, that failed unit was from LG.  Don't recall the
model.

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Re: Extending Expiration Date of an Already-Expired GPG Key

2009-02-21 Thread Ed Greshko
Tim wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 07:23 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
>   
>> I'm using enigmail .95.7 on Tbird with gpg (GnuPG) 1.4.3 and it
>> reports signature verification failed after importing key from
>> keyserver.
>> 
>
> It would be interesting to find out if this changes after a few days
> (propagation delays between keyservers), or doesn't change without
> manual intervention (keyservers not propagating changes, or clients not
> looking for changes).
>
>   
Don't knowbut the expiry date of the key imported is 2/21/2010 so I
think it is the latest incantation.
>
> I gave up on keyservers, a couple of years ago.  Publishing to them just
> gets me spam.  Somewhere, some prick is harvesting addresses from them.
> I added an address to a key, it started getting spam the same day (the
> same spam gets sent to all addresses).  I removed a different address,
> that one stopped getting the same bunch of daily spam.  I've really had
> my fill with the utter bastards of this world, some people just don't
> deserve to be born.  I really can't say what I really want to do to
> spammers, on this list.
>
>   
Ahhh...digital spam is nothing.  My anti-spam prevents 99% of the spam
from reaching my inbox.  Try living in Taiwan  Every day you come
hope to a mailbox stuffed with flyers of one type or another.  Along
with the PITA of having to sort through the junk to find the important
junk (a.k.a. bills) you then have to dispose of the junk and you come to
realize all of the paper being wasted.   I can control the digital
spamnothing stops the physical spam.  :-(



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Re: font problem in Fedora 10/Thunderbird

2009-02-21 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 09:50 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> Thunderbird is a Gnome application so you could try playing with the
> Gnome font settings.

Do Thunderbird and Firefox really *have* to be Gnome applications?  Is
there some advantage in lumbering them with this on Linux?  They
certainly aren't Gnome-dependent on the Windows platform!

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Re: Extending Expiration Date of an Already-Expired GPG Key

2009-02-21 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 07:23 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> I'm using enigmail .95.7 on Tbird with gpg (GnuPG) 1.4.3 and it
> reports signature verification failed after importing key from
> keyserver.

It would be interesting to find out if this changes after a few days
(propagation delays between keyservers), or doesn't change without
manual intervention (keyservers not propagating changes, or clients not
looking for changes).



I gave up on keyservers, a couple of years ago.  Publishing to them just
gets me spam.  Somewhere, some prick is harvesting addresses from them.
I added an address to a key, it started getting spam the same day (the
same spam gets sent to all addresses).  I removed a different address,
that one stopped getting the same bunch of daily spam.  I've really had
my fill with the utter bastards of this world, some people just don't
deserve to be born.  I really can't say what I really want to do to
spammers, on this list.

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Re: Swap space

2009-02-21 Thread James Wilkinson
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> Has anyone actually compared the speed of pendrives versus hard disks
> when used for swap?

Aaron Konstam wrote:
> They have to be much slower …

I don’t think they have to be – I suspect they might be faster than hard
disks.

What I’ve read is that the sort of flash you tend to get in these drives
can be very slow for writes, slow to read back data in sequentially, but
they can be a lot faster than hard drives to actually start accessing
the data, because there’s no physical movement required to start reading
from the disk. A quick google resulted in
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/security-flash-storage,1804-6.html ,
with a couple of drives with access times a tenth of what you’d expect
from a good hard drive, but slower sequential transfer speeds.

That leaves two questions – does the flash in question have low access
times, or did the manufacturer come up with slow flash because no-one
cared? And what sort of access patterns do you get for reading from
swap?

A virtual memory system works in pages, normally of 4K¹. If you’re just
going to read in one 4K page, then the access time is going to be much
larger than the transfer time, even for flash: in other words, the flash
will have got the data into RAM before the hard drive is likely to be
anywhere near the data. So for a hard disk to be faster than
low-access-time flash for swap, then you’re going to have to have a
situation where the kernel wrote out around a megabyte of data to swap,
and then read it back in continuously.

I doubt that Linux (or many other operating systems) does that. It will
normally choose pages to swap from multiple different processes, and in
any case, adjacent pages in swap would be unlikely to be needed back in
RAM at the same time.

Note that the speed of writing pages to swap is not that important until
it takes a large proportion of the flash’s time (it’s asynchronous:
nothing’s waiting on it), or unless you suddenly have a lot of need for
memory (which is rare: the kernel does try to keep some free memory
about, and will only actually allocate memory when a process actually
starts using it).

As I and others have said, just because it’s fast doesn’t mean it’s a
good idea, and you might get through flash drives fairly quickly if you
actually use your swap for much. (If you just have swap for emergencies,
it might see less use than your home directory.)

James.

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Re: Extending Expiration Date of an Already-Expired GPG Key

2009-02-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 07:23 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Saturday 21 February 2009 22:11:21 Robert L Cochran wrote:
> >   
> >> 0xC2C60518
> >> 
> >
> > That key expires on 21/02/2010 - no problem :-)
> >
> > Anne
> >   
> Really?
> 
> I'm using enigmail .95.7 on Tbird with gpg (GnuPG) 1.4.3 and it reports
> signature verification failed after importing key from keyserver.

Fails for me too. The key is reported as "expired":

gpg: armor header: Hash: SHA1
gpg: armor header: Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux)
gpg: armor header: Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
gpg: original file name=''
gpg: Signature made Sat 21 Feb 2009 05:41:20 PM VET using DSA key ID C2C60518
gpg: NOTE: signature key C2C60518 expired Sat 17 Jan 2009 10:20:28 PM VET
gpg: NOTE: signature key C2C60518 expired Sat 17 Jan 2009 10:20:28 PM VET
gpg: NOTE: signature key C2C60518 expired Sat 17 Jan 2009 10:20:28 PM VET
gpg: using classic trust model
gpg: BAD signature from "Robert L. Cochran (Greenbelt) "
gpg: textmode signature, digest algorithm SHA1

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Re: How to add drive lvm -

2009-02-21 Thread Chris Tyler

On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 18:51 -0500, Chris Tyler wrote:
> 
> # lvextend VolGroup00 /dev/xxx

Whoops, I should obviously have written vgextend.

-Chris

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Re: How to add drive lvm -

2009-02-21 Thread Chris Tyler

On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 23:30 +, iarly selbir wrote:
> - create a lvm partition with fdisk
> fdisk /dev/xxx
> n ( new partition )
> p ( type primary )
> 1 ( first partition )
> t ( select partition type )
> 8e ( lvm )
> 
> - create physical volume
> # pvcreate /dev/xxx1

Alternately, add it to the existing volume group:

# lvextend VolGroup00 /dev/xxx

The advantage to doing this is that you can extend existing logical
volumes as well as create new ones.

BTW, all of this can be done graphically using system-config-lvm (which
is System>Administration>Logical Volume Management on the Gnome menu).

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Re: How to add drive lvm -

2009-02-21 Thread iarly selbir
- create a lvm partition with fdisk
fdisk /dev/xxx
n ( new partition )
p ( type primary )
1 ( first partition )
t ( select partition type )
8e ( lvm )

- create physical volume
# pvcreate /dev/xxx1

- create volume group
# vgcreate name_vg /dev/xxx1

- create logical volume
# lvcreate -L SIZE ( 100M, 1G ) name_vg -n lv_name

- Format partition
# mkfs.ext3 /dev/mapper/lv_name ( maybe ext2 or ext4 ... )

I hope helps you.

also look here - http://www.linuxjunkies.org/html/LVM-HOWTO.html

Regards,

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>
> In an F-10 computer I have a second drive that I would like to designate
> lvm VolGroup01 but have not had much success at finding how to proceed.
>  Need some guidance ... How to do it, where to look?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bob
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Re: Extending Expiration Date of an Already-Expired GPG Key

2009-02-21 Thread Ed Greshko
Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Saturday 21 February 2009 22:11:21 Robert L Cochran wrote:
>   
>> 0xC2C60518
>> 
>
> That key expires on 21/02/2010 - no problem :-)
>
> Anne
>   
Really?

I'm using enigmail .95.7 on Tbird with gpg (GnuPG) 1.4.3 and it reports
signature verification failed after importing key from keyserver.



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How to add drive lvm -

2009-02-21 Thread Bob Goodwin


In an F-10 computer I have a second drive that I would like to designate 
lvm VolGroup01 but have not had much success at finding how to proceed.  
Need some guidance ... How to do it, where to look?


Thanks.

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Re: Sound stops working after rhythmbox tried to play sound

2009-02-21 Thread Felix Schwarz

Frank Cox schrieb:

To find out what's blocking sound use this command:

fuser -v /dev/snd/* /dev/dsp*


I ran this without results before (but without '-v').

However after a few more reboots, the problem is suddenly gone... :-/

fs

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Re: Swap space

2009-02-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 16:37 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 10:37 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 15:04 +, James Wilkinson wrote:
> > > Frank Murphy wrote:
> > > > Use a usb-stick, formatted as swap.
> > > > It will be made use of on boot up.
> > > > I have four machines using them (up to 4gb sticks)
> > > > ymmv
> > > 
> > > Note that questions have been asked about how long flash will last if
> > > used for swap. (But the worst thing that can happen is that the machine
> > > crashes and the flash becomes unusable).
> > 
> > Has anyone actually compared the speed of pendrives versus hard disks
> > when used for swap?
> 
> 
> They have to be much slower and pendrives have a finite lifew in terms
> of numbers of accesses before they fail. Using them for swap is a really
> bad idea, 

Pretty much what I thought.

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Re: set dial up connection wll phone in fedora 8

2009-02-21 Thread steven

rajpal songara wrote:

I want to set up the dial up connection in my fedora machine
i set all the basic steps for it
it also detect the modem & start the dialing in phone
but i can't browse the internet

pl



You may need to add the following line to /etc/sysconfig/network :

GATEWAYDEV=ppp0

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Re: Swap space

2009-02-21 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 10:37 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 15:04 +, James Wilkinson wrote:
> > Frank Murphy wrote:
> > > Use a usb-stick, formatted as swap.
> > > It will be made use of on boot up.
> > > I have four machines using them (up to 4gb sticks)
> > > ymmv
> > 
> > Note that questions have been asked about how long flash will last if
> > used for swap. (But the worst thing that can happen is that the machine
> > crashes and the flash becomes unusable).
> 
> Has anyone actually compared the speed of pendrives versus hard disks
> when used for swap?


They have to be much slower and pendrives have a finite lifew in terms
of numbers of accesses before they fail. Using them for swap is a really
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Re: Extending Expiration Date of an Already-Expired GPG Key

2009-02-21 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 21 February 2009 22:11:21 Robert L Cochran wrote:
> 0xC2C60518

That key expires on 21/02/2010 - no problem :-)

Anne


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Re: Extending Expiration Date of an Already-Expired GPG Key

2009-02-21 Thread Robert L Cochran
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Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Saturday 21 February 2009 16:04:21 Robert L Cochran wrote:
>> My gpg key expired last month and I didn't notice it till today. I used
>> gpg --edit-key to extend the expiration date by a year, then I sent it
>> to one of the key servers, subkeys.pgp.net. Is this an acceptable
>> practice? Google searches yielded a few comments suggesting that an
>> expired key could be revoked and a new key generated. I'm unsure what
>> accepted practice is.
>>
> Easy test - sign a message here and I'll import the key.  If it shows
the new
> expiration date you have no problem.
>
> Anne

Thanks, Anne! I signed it!

Bob

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GreaseMonkey,in Firefox, Setup New User ??

2009-02-21 Thread Jim
Setting up New User Script in Greasemonky, the line below I guess is 
about where is the script, the script I'm using is in

/home/user/WVC210 , what would I enter for @namespace ?

@namespace 	A scope within which @name should be unique. 	0-1 	The 
domain of the script's file.


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Re: Domino on Fedora

2009-02-21 Thread James Wilkinson
Anne Wilson wrote:
> If postfix is replacing sendmail, it's 'transport' database will have to be 
> configured.

Well, it’s always a good idea to check the configuration for any new MTA
to suit your site. But postfix will work out-of-the-box – for local
delivery, or if you’re happy for it to send e-mails direct to MX (i.e.
directly to the computer listed in DNS as being responsible for that
domain. If that computer is outside your organisation, and you’re on a
dynamic IP address, you might have problems with spam filters.)

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Re: Sound stops working after rhythmbox tried to play sound

2009-02-21 Thread Frank Cox
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 20:31:41 +0100
Felix Schwarz wrote:

> Any suggestions what I can do (besides not using rhythmbox or removing
> pulseaudio)?

To find out what's blocking sound use this command:

fuser -v /dev/snd/* /dev/dsp*

Kill the task that's causing the problem, then:

pulseaudio -k ; pulseaudio -D --log-target=syslog


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Re: is there a noscript plugin for Konqueror

2009-02-21 Thread Frank Cox
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 11:57:34 -0800 (PST)
Antonio Olivares wrote:

> I visit some sites and sometimes konqueror becomes unresponsive that I have 
> to manually close it then restart it.  I have the text file from adblocker to 
> block random ads and stuff, but sometimes things come in :( and take over the 
> browser that I have to shut it down.

You can do a great many clever things with Privoxy.


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is there a noscript plugin for Konqueror

2009-02-21 Thread Antonio Olivares
Dear fellow Fedora users,

Is there a noscript plugin for konqueror?

I visit some sites and sometimes konqueror becomes unresponsive that I have to 
manually close it then restart it.  I have the text file from adblocker to 
block random ads and stuff, but sometimes things come in :( and take over the 
browser that I have to shut it down.

http://easylist.adblockplus.org/

Thanks in advance,

Antonio 


  

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Re: kubuntu vs fedora initrd init files,

2009-02-21 Thread jackson byers
Mikkel responded:
I have done it both ways - as a fresh install, and by taking a hard
drive with an installed OS, and putting it in an external USB case,
and the drive has always ended up as /dev/sda. This  is much less of
a problem if you are using LVM and/of partition labels then if you
are mounting partitions directly. (As long as your LVM names do not
collide! ie more then one VolGroup00.)

By far, the easiest is to do a fresh, expert install to a USB drive
- it will even do the proper Grub install so that you can boot off
the USB drive directly on any system that supports booting from a
USB drive. You can do this when moving an install to an external
case, but it is much easier doing it at install time.

Mikkel
---

Mikkel, I am sure you know the best way, but consider:
re LVM: I know nothing;
re partition labels: I have some but limited experience;
re fresh installs: very limited
   --my main fc5 was put on for me by a vendor in aug 06
--i did that kubuntu install (from a dvd? cant recall) late06,early 07
-- and some other knoppix-based things
re fresh, expert install to usb/or scsi:  I have no experience

I got into this bc Iwas trying to prepare for installing f9,f10
  on my scsi sda,sdb, and so backed up fc5 to my usb to make space on scsi.
 My usb is one large reiserfs partition ( set up by my vendor in 2006)
 (I am uncertain as to what tool to use to
  shrink that usb reiserfs partition without losing my backupdata,
  or even if that is possible. I would like more than one partition
  if I am going to get into doing installs to the usb)

Then, it was only bc I was frustrated it seemed completely
  to boot off my fc5copy on usb  ( could not find /dev/root...)
that i tried the kubuntu 2.6.26-386 kernel,initrd
and that worked!
 so then I got your advice re usb-storage etc,etc
 and i finally got it also working using the fc5 kernel,initrd.

So, all my recent experience is with doing the copy not a fresh install
so I will try that  with a usb copy of the kubuntu install.

If that succeeds, whatever the result sda or sdc,
then i will look into doing fresh, expert install to usb of f9 or f10

thanks much for your detailed responses
Jack
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Re: Since when doesn't Fedora use xorg.conf ?

2009-02-21 Thread Antonio Olivares



--- On Fri, 2/20/09, Arthur Pemberton  wrote:

> From: Arthur Pemberton 
> Subject: Re: Since when doesn't Fedora use xorg.conf ?
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." 
> 
> Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 10:40 PM
> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Linuxguy123
>  wrote:
> > There are all sorts of posts associated with the
> "Disabling mouse taps
> > on Fedora 10" thread that state that Fedora 10
> doesn't use an xorg.conf
> > file.
> >
> > When did Fedora/X stop using an xorg.conf file ?
> >
> > It certainly isn't mentioned in the F10 release
> notes.
> >
> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f10/en_US/What_is_New_for_Installation_and_Live_Images.html#X_Window_system_-_graphics
> >
> > How and where are the X system settings set and held
> now ?
> >
> > Thanks
> 
> 
> A few releases ago Xorg starting pretending to be too smart
> for an
> xorg.conf. It has been very very annoying for me.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Fedora 9 : sulphur is good for the skin
> ( www.pembo13.com )
> 
> -- 

While I can concur *Sometimes it is annoying*, on 9 out of 10 machines that I 
run Fedora 10 on, I don't have xorg.conf and things are working great.  But 
there is an exception, the one with ATI built in the motherboard, I get very 
bad resolution 640x480(not even 800x600) that there is a need for it :)

01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 [Radeon X1200 
Series]

I just tried to install Fedora on another machine with similar built in only 
that lspci reports it as ATI Radeon 200 and it is a no go, even with Text 
INSTALL, so YMMV :)

Regards,

Antonio 


  

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RPM Fusion needs a maintainer for the package madwifi in F11 and later

2009-02-21 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Attached mail FYI -- if you want to step us as maintainer for madwifi 
please contact me (existing Fedora contributors or maintainers with 
existing packaging skills would be ideal for the job). Madwifi will be 
dropped from RPM Fusion for F11 and later if no one steps up to maintain 
it. Feel free to forward this mail to other channels if you think it 
makes sense to do so.


CU
knurd
--- Begin Message ---
Hi

As state here (1):

I'm not going to spend time anymore on madwifi.
I do think that with kernel 2.6.29 nearing, the inkernel ath5k/ath9k
will extends all functions that was present previously in madwifi.

If you think that it is still usefull to maintain madwifi, specially on
Fedora 11. (Fedora 10 version should probably be kept for compatibility
reason), you can explain your point of view here, but bugreport on
ath5k/ath9k should be made.

If you want to maintain madwifi in rpmfusion-nonfree please publish an
updated spec file. In the bugreport (1)

If there is no valid maintainer of madwifi before F11 GA, we could
consider madwifi as Obsoleted. But we need to keep in mind that previous
talks state that if a fedora package will extend the feature of a
package present in rpmfusion, there is no reason to keep the rpmfusion
one. That was to prevent openmotif or java-sun (against lesstif or
java-openjdk) to be introducted within the repository.


Nicolas (kwizart)


(1) https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=315

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Re: Linux users want better desktop performance (Screw data. Prioritize code)

2009-02-21 Thread Kevin Martin

> I read that [3] article and the first two things I noticed were the
> reference to "small RAM" which in the days of $11/GB RAM is rare, and
> that the author didn't touch the "dirty" tuning parameters, which are
> better suited to controlling the behavior of i/o buffers. He didn't
> mention tuning read ahead to speed reading of  application off the
> disk (which limits response even if lots of memory is free). In short
> the article is based on one trick, not a balanced approach to getting
> both responsive performance and good i/o performance.
>
> I regularly handle images 4x the size of memory, and in 33 days uptime
> have written a total of 109MB (from iostat) to swap. A balanced tune
> is far nicer than cranking swappiness as low as it will go and keeping
> crap in memory which is not needed (left over initialization code,
> error messages you never see, etc).
>
>> [1]
>> http://rudd-o.com/en/linux-and-free-software/tales-from-responsivenessland-why-linux-feels-slow-and-how-to-fix-that
>>
>> [2]
>> http://apcmag.com/interview_with_con_kolivas_part_1_computing_is_boring.htm
>>
>> [3] http://apcmag.com/why_i_quit_kernel_developer_con_kolivas.htm
>>
>
>

Bill, 

You don't mention what types of tuning you've done to enforce a
"balanced approach".  Any suggestions are greatly appreciated!

Kevin

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Sound stops working after rhythmbox tried to play sound

2009-02-21 Thread Felix Schwarz

Hi,

I'm on Fedora 10 (x86_64). For some days I experience some sound problems:
Rhythmbox does not plays music anymore. Furthermore all other sounds are not
played as well after that.

Step by step:
1. start rhythmbox
2. select a song (ogg) and click play
=> Title bar shows the song's title
=> pulseaudio volumne control shows it too (only the title, no sound data
shown)
However:
  - No sound
  - no progress in rhythmbox (progress bar stays at the beginning)
  - play button in rhythmbox does not change its symbol to pause
  - besides that, rhythmbox is still responsive, I can switch to other songs
but still no sound.
3. After that no app (e.g. totem) can play sound (they don't hang, just no
sound).

If I reboot, I can play sounds using other applications like totem.

If I kill pulseaudio (pulseaudio -k), it will respawn another instance but
that one only finds the NullOutput so no sound as well.

lspci/sound card:
00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)

In the syslog I can see:
pulseaudio[5082]: module-alsa-sink.c: Error opening PCM device front:0: device
or resource busy.

Installed packages that might be related:
alsa-plugins-pulseaudio-1.0.18-2.fc10.x86_64
pulseaudio-0.9.14-1.fc10.x86_64
pulseaudio-core-libs-0.9.14-1.fc10.x86_64
pulseaudio-esound-compat-0.9.14-1.fc10.x86_64
pulseaudio-libs-0.9.14-1.fc10.i386
pulseaudio-libs-0.9.14-1.fc10.x86_64
pulseaudio-libs-glib2-0.9.14-1.fc10.x86_64
pulseaudio-module-gconf-0.9.14-1.fc10.x86_64
pulseaudio-module-x11-0.9.14-1.fc10.x86_64
pulseaudio-utils-0.9.14-1.fc10.x86_64
rhythmbox-0.11.6-19.r6096.fc10.x86_64
wine-pulseaudio-1.1.14-1.fc10.i386


Any suggestions what I can do (besides not using rhythmbox or removing
pulseaudio)?

fs

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Re: Extending Expiration Date of an Already-Expired GPG Key

2009-02-21 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 21 February 2009 16:04:21 Robert L Cochran wrote:
> My gpg key expired last month and I didn't notice it till today. I used
> gpg --edit-key to extend the expiration date by a year, then I sent it
> to one of the key servers, subkeys.pgp.net. Is this an acceptable
> practice? Google searches yielded a few comments suggesting that an
> expired key could be revoked and a new key generated. I'm unsure what
> accepted practice is.
>
Easy test - sign a message here and I'll import the key.  If it shows the new 
expiration date you have no problem.

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Re: Domino on Fedora

2009-02-21 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 21 February 2009 18:47:04 James Wilkinson wrote:
> Anne Wilson wrote:
> > If sendmail is removed, does that imply that you have configured
> > postfix.sendmail to do the job?
>
> If postfix is installed then sendmail is removed, the Fedora
> alternatives system will do that for you. man alternatives says:
> “name” [in this case, sendmail] will be updated to point to another
> appropriate alternative, or removed if there is no such alternative
> left.
>
If postfix is replacing sendmail, it's 'transport' database will have to be 
configured.

> I very much doubt this will work for Domino.
>
Couldn't say - I've no experience of that - but generally, once set up it is 
transparent.

It was just a though, following the lines that others have taken - if you have 
removed sendmail, *something* has to do the job.

Anne


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Re: Extending Expiration Date of an Already-Expired GPG Key

2009-02-21 Thread Todd Zullinger
Robert L Cochran wrote:
> My gpg key expired last month and I didn't notice it till today. I
> used gpg --edit-key to extend the expiration date by a year, then I
> sent it to one of the key servers, subkeys.pgp.net. Is this an
> acceptable practice? Google searches yielded a few comments
> suggesting that an expired key could be revoked and a new key
> generated. I'm unsure what accepted practice is.

Either is acceptable.  For example, Werner Koch recently extended the
expiration date of the key used to sign gpg releases:

http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-announce/2009q1/000282.html

Anytime you have a key expiring, it is a good time to ask yourself
whether it's time to create a new key or extend the life of the old
one.  Good reasons to create a new key include using larger key size.
Good reasons to continue using your existing key include keeping the
signatures on the key so that any trust you've built up by others
signing your key remains.

There isn't a simple, one size fits all answer to this question. :)

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Re: Disabling mouse taps on Fedora 10 (solved)

2009-02-21 Thread David
Bill Davidsen wrote:

> I'm a lot more unhappy with leaving out the ability to do that. If
> system-config-display is at least installed the user has the tool, and
> doesn't need to install from command line. Not creating xorg.conf is
> reasonable, but if it doesn't work and you need xorg.conf you always
> need the tool.


from the CLI (since no X)

X -configure


> If there is a way to use bugzilla without X for a browser, I bet fewer
> than 1% of all users know what it is. And not everyone has a second
> system to use.


> I'm not just making a point here, but I think you need an entry in
> xorg.conf. I haven't done that since about X11R5 or so, but I think the
> option was something like "ViewPort" which was the physical (display)
> window size. I could be misremembering, that might be the virtual size,
> but it gives you somewhere to look. Do let us know if you find it.



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Re: Domino on Fedora

2009-02-21 Thread James Wilkinson
Anne Wilson wrote:
> If sendmail is removed, does that imply that you have configured 
> postfix.sendmail to do the job?

If postfix is installed then sendmail is removed, the Fedora
alternatives system will do that for you. man alternatives says:
“name” [in this case, sendmail] will be updated to point to another
appropriate alternative, or removed if there is no such alternative
left.

I very much doubt this will work for Domino.

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Re: DVD : read but can't burn

2009-02-21 Thread Bill Davidsen

Croombe F. Pensom wrote:

I have an LG CD/DVD reader/burner that, previous to this, has always
worked. Now, suddenly, I can do everything EXCEPT burn a DVD. 
Any ideas where to look?


Your DVD media doesn't please your firmware. I can't think of anything else 
which is likely to cause being able to burn CD but not DVD.


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Re: Linux users want better desktop performance (Screw data. Prioritize code)

2009-02-21 Thread Bill Davidsen

James Wilkinson wrote:

Tom Horsley wrote:

The "prelinker" is enabled by default because one group of
geeks want their shared libs to load 10 nanoseconds faster
(while using 45 hours of cpu in a cron job to achieve that),
meanwhile the security geeks enable address space randomization
by default, thus insuring that everything the prelinker does
will be for naught because none of the libs will ever load
at the prelinked address.


Thank you for the following.


http://lwn.net/Articles/190139/:

In an attempt to restore some of the benefits of address space
randomization, prelink is capable of randomly selecting the
addresses used for prelinking. This makes it more difficult to
perform certain attacks on a system, because the addresses used are
unique to that system. 


In other words, prelinking does address space randomization on a
per-system basis.

Or so I understand – if you have any other sources, I’d be interested to
hear them. This comes from a reputable source and matches my
understanding.

Hope this helps,

James.




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Re: Disabling mouse taps on Fedora 10 (solved)

2009-02-21 Thread Bill Davidsen

Craig White wrote:

On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 18:20 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Thanks, but I did a lot of research prior to figuring this out and the 
consensus is that Fedora 10 left out xorg.conf for a reason and that it 
is not a good idea to use that approach anymore because it conflicts 
with the new approach.


No, the "reason" was that someone decided that it wasn't needed and someone 
might screw it up if they had it. The Windows "we know what you want on your 
computer" approach. Trust me, for some hardware configurations you absolutely 
need it, the autoconfig simply isn't up to properly handling some displays.


You must have missed the long thread (this thread) that's been going on 
with this discussion.


You didn't see my name in them? About 30% of my hardware works less than 
optimally (or not at all) w/o xorg.conf. I believe (based on what I read) it's 
also needed to allow connecting a monitor to a netbook as well, otherwise you 
have to boot with the monitor connected and powered up every time to have it 
configured.


The 'autoconfig' approach as you term it is not about Windows - it's
about ease of use. When the system just works as you change hardware
it's a lot easier for the end user than having to send the user into say
runlevel 3, system-config-display --reconfig and then reboot.

I'm a lot more unhappy with leaving out the ability to do that. If 
system-config-display is at least installed the user has the tool, and doesn't 
need to install from command line. Not creating xorg.conf is reasonable, but if 
it doesn't work and you need xorg.conf you always need the tool.



The great thing about Linux is that if it doesn't work for you, you can
be part of the solution by reporting your issues through systems like
bugzilla, detail your hardware and the issues it presents so they can
implement the necessary code so it does work in the future.

If there is a way to use bugzilla without X for a browser, I bet fewer than 1% 
of all users know what it is. And not everyone has a second system to use.



Yes, it's not perfect. I notice that on my Acer Aspire One netbook, if I
boot up in Windows without having the monitor connected, it doesn't work
all that well either so I'm not convinced that there's much of a
difference. What I can do in Windows that I'm seemingly incapable of
doing on F10 is to create a virtual screen larger than the actual
1024x600 and I would be grateful if someone could hit me with the clue
stick here.

I'm not just making a point here, but I think you need an entry in xorg.conf. I 
haven't done that since about X11R5 or so, but I think the option was something 
like "ViewPort" which was the physical (display) window size. I could be 
misremembering, that might be the virtual size, but it gives you somewhere to 
look. Do let us know if you find it.


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Re: Swap space

2009-02-21 Thread Frank Murphy
Steve Underwood wrote:


>>   
> Using SD cards the answer seems to be a few days. The card doesn't show
> bad sectors. It just dies completely. This has happened with several SD
> cards of different makes. I have no idea what the failure mode is, but
> after 5 or 6 fail that fast, and you haven't seen any last a decent
> length of time, you have to start accepting its not a random failure issue.


The stick here, were put in at the release of F9,
the same sticks are still going in F10.

Maybe the swap here isn't used that often,
I wouldn't know how to graph\gauge  that.

Frank

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F-10 xmodmap/xkeycaps problem -

2009-02-21 Thread Bob Goodwin


Can anyone tell me why xmodmap and xkeycaps
do not work in F-10 as they do in F-9?

This keeps me from upgrading this computer.

Bob

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Re:fedora-list Digest, Vol 60, Issue 171

2009-02-21 Thread lhk05016278
gdon Stevenson wrote:
> I decided it was time to bite the bullet and upgrade my workstation to
> Fedora 9 from 8.  I followed these instructions to upgrade using Yum:
> 
>   http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq
> 
> However when I ran the command:
> 
>   yum upgrade
> 
> I got a very long slew of "Missing Dependency" errors (see below). There
> are so many that I can't just uninstall all of the applications (might
> as well just do a clean install).
> 
> Can anyone suggest how I can troubleshoot this and resolve the issue?  I
> have found a few people had similar issues, but saw no solution suggested.
> 
> Langdon
> 
You may want to install and run preupgrade.

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Re: Swap space

2009-02-21 Thread Chris Tyler

On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 14:56 +0100, chedi toueiti wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> You can try this:
> 1- Create a swap file (use this if you can't change your partition
> layout) via the command:
> dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/swap_file bs=1024M count=1
> 2- format the swap file with :
> mkswap /tmp/swap
> 3- add the new swap file swap system
> /sbin/swapon /tmp/swap_file
> 4- make the swap load on boot loading
> echo /sbin/swapon /tmp/swap_file >> /etc/rc.local

Two things:
(1) The swap file probably shouldn't be in /tmp (files there are deleted
when unused for a time -- which shouldn't happen in this case, but
nonetheless the intention is for this to be long-term swap file). The
root directory or /var are common locations for a swap file.

(2) In place of step 4, which adds to the rc.local startup script, it's
preferred to list the swap in the /etc/fstab (where the existing swap is
already listed):

echo "/wherever/swapfile swap swap defaults 0 0" >>/etc/fstab

-Chris

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Re: qemu-kvm: qns regarding network and usb keyboard setup

2009-02-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 08:18 -0800, suvayu ali wrote:
> 2009/2/21 Patrick O'Callaghan :
> > On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 07:21 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> >> suvayu ali wrote:
> >> > However my arrow keys still don't work as it usually does on regular
> >> > consoles. I tried using it in the QEMU monitor, and it worked there.
> >> > So I tried this, "sendkey up" this _did_ send the up arrow signal to
> >> > the terminal I had opened in the GUI. So do I have to do this every
> >> > time? Are there other ways to set it up to make it work the way I want
> >> > to?
> >>
> >> Your keyboard is not set up correctly for the new "evdev" driver. What
> >> desktop environment are you using? If it's KDE, go to System Settings,
> >> Keyboard & Mouse and make sure the keyboard type is set to "Evdev-managed
> >> keyboard".
> >
> > Although my kb seems to be working fine, I had a look and I don't see
> > anything allowing me to set the kb type. There's stuff about kb repeat,
> > numlock, click volume etc. and that's it. Should I be worried? This is
> > KDE 4.2.
> >
> On Gnome the keyboard type is chosen in
> System>>Preferences>>Hardware>>Keyboard under the tab Layout (along
> with the stuff you mention). So maybe you can look for something
> similar? In a thread recently someone mentioned KDE had some setting
> under Language Settings, whereas intuitively it should be under
> Keyboard settings. So maybe you can look for it there?

I was following what Kevin said, and he should know.

poc

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Re: Swap space

2009-02-21 Thread Steve Underwood

James Wilkinson wrote:

Frank Murphy wrote:
  

Use a usb-stick, formatted as swap.
It will be made use of on boot up.
I have four machines using them (up to 4gb sticks)
ymmv



Note that questions have been asked about how long flash will last if
used for swap. (But the worst thing that can happen is that the machine
crashes and the flash becomes unusable).
  
Using SD cards the answer seems to be a few days. The card doesn't show 
bad sectors. It just dies completely. This has happened with several SD 
cards of different makes. I have no idea what the failure mode is, but 
after 5 or 6 fail that fast, and you haven't seen any last a decent 
length of time, you have to start accepting its not a random failure issue.


Regards,
Steve

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Re: Extending Expiration Date of an Already-Expired GPG Key

2009-02-21 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 11:04:21 -0500,
  Robert L Cochran  wrote:
> My gpg key expired last month and I didn't notice it till today. I used
> gpg --edit-key to extend the expiration date by a year, then I sent it
> to one of the key servers, subkeys.pgp.net. Is this an acceptable
> practice? Google searches yielded a few comments suggesting that an
> expired key could be revoked and a new key generated. I'm unsure what
> accepted practice is.

What I would expect is that one would create a new key and sign it with
the old one.

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Re: Domino on Fedora

2009-02-21 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 21 February 2009 14:57:43 James Wilkinson wrote:
> Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote:
> > Local delivery can be done with procmail.
>
> Yes, but if the command expects to use /usr/sbin/sendmail to send the
> mail, and that command isn’t there…
>
If sendmail is removed, does that imply that you have configured 
postfix.sendmail to do the job?

Anne


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Re: Fedora 8 upgrade to 9 missing dependency problem

2009-02-21 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Langdon Stevenson wrote:
> I decided it was time to bite the bullet and upgrade my workstation to
> Fedora 9 from 8.  I followed these instructions to upgrade using Yum:
> 
>   http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq
> 
> However when I ran the command:
> 
>   yum upgrade
> 
> I got a very long slew of "Missing Dependency" errors (see below). There
> are so many that I can't just uninstall all of the applications (might
> as well just do a clean install).
> 
> Can anyone suggest how I can troubleshoot this and resolve the issue?  I
> have found a few people had similar issues, but saw no solution suggested.
> 
> Langdon
> 
You may want to install and run preupgrade.

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Re: qemu-kvm: qns regarding network and usb keyboard setup

2009-02-21 Thread suvayu ali
2009/2/21 Patrick O'Callaghan :
> On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 07:21 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> suvayu ali wrote:
>> > However my arrow keys still don't work as it usually does on regular
>> > consoles. I tried using it in the QEMU monitor, and it worked there.
>> > So I tried this, "sendkey up" this _did_ send the up arrow signal to
>> > the terminal I had opened in the GUI. So do I have to do this every
>> > time? Are there other ways to set it up to make it work the way I want
>> > to?
>>
>> Your keyboard is not set up correctly for the new "evdev" driver. What
>> desktop environment are you using? If it's KDE, go to System Settings,
>> Keyboard & Mouse and make sure the keyboard type is set to "Evdev-managed
>> keyboard".
>
> Although my kb seems to be working fine, I had a look and I don't see
> anything allowing me to set the kb type. There's stuff about kb repeat,
> numlock, click volume etc. and that's it. Should I be worried? This is
> KDE 4.2.
>
On Gnome the keyboard type is chosen in
System>>Preferences>>Hardware>>Keyboard under the tab Layout (along
with the stuff you mention). So maybe you can look for something
similar? In a thread recently someone mentioned KDE had some setting
under Language Settings, whereas intuitively it should be under
Keyboard settings. So maybe you can look for it there?

Just a wild guess ...

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InsydeH2O dual boot vista

2009-02-21 Thread sean darcy
I've just got an HP g50 laptop with Vista and a Vista recovery 
partition. The g50 uses INsydeh2o as a sort of open firmware that 
interfaces with the bios.


I'd like to shrink the existing ntfs partition and dual boot fedora. But 
what about the insydeh2o? Is this part of system rom, so I just install 
 grub as usual? Has anybody set up a dual boot with insydeh2o?


sean

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Extending Expiration Date of an Already-Expired GPG Key

2009-02-21 Thread Robert L Cochran
My gpg key expired last month and I didn't notice it till today. I used
gpg --edit-key to extend the expiration date by a year, then I sent it
to one of the key servers, subkeys.pgp.net. Is this an acceptable
practice? Google searches yielded a few comments suggesting that an
expired key could be revoked and a new key generated. I'm unsure what
accepted practice is.

Thanks

Bob Cochran
Greenbelt, Maryland, USA

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Re: Linux users want better desktop performance (Screw data. Prioritize code)

2009-02-21 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 14:53:29 +
James Wilkinson wrote:

> In other words, prelinking does address space randomization on a
> per-system basis.

No doubt, but the address space randomization in the kernel
happens every time any program is run and loads the shared
libs at different random addresses without regard to any
base address the prelinker may have assigned.

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Re: DVD : read but can't burn

2009-02-21 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 14:39:25 +
Croombe F. Pensom wrote:

> Now, suddenly, I can do everything EXCEPT burn a DVD.

What does that mean exactly? If it claims to burn it, but
then fails to verify, there is a known problem with K3B
never being able to verify correctly even though the burn
worked.

I've been doing verifies by comparing checksums of the files
burned versus the files from the DVD and so far the actual
burns have worked fine.

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Re: Domino on Fedora

2009-02-21 Thread James Wilkinson
Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote:
> Nothing has to listen on 25.

I snarked:
> It might help if Domino did…

By which I meant “if the system is to act as a Domino MTA”, not for the
purposes of delivering Linux system email.

Sorry if that wasn’t clear.

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Re: Swap space

2009-02-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 15:04 +, James Wilkinson wrote:
> Frank Murphy wrote:
> > Use a usb-stick, formatted as swap.
> > It will be made use of on boot up.
> > I have four machines using them (up to 4gb sticks)
> > ymmv
> 
> Note that questions have been asked about how long flash will last if
> used for swap. (But the worst thing that can happen is that the machine
> crashes and the flash becomes unusable).

Has anyone actually compared the speed of pendrives versus hard disks
when used for swap?

poc

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Re: DVD : read but can't burn

2009-02-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 14:39 +, Croombe F. Pensom wrote:
> I have an LG CD/DVD reader/burner that, previous to this, has always
> worked. Now, suddenly, I can do everything EXCEPT burn a DVD. 
> Any ideas where to look?

No, since you don't say what system you're using, or what desktop, or
what burning software, or even the model of your LG unit, any of which
might be relevant. Neither do you say what actually happens when you try
to burn a DVD. An error message? A failed burn? Nothing? Does it matter
if it's DVD-RW, DVD+RW, DVD+R, DVD-R?

I also have an LG (GSA-4163B), use KDE 4.2 under Fedora 10 and burn
using both k3b and growisofs. Everything works.

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Re: Swap space

2009-02-21 Thread James Wilkinson
Frank Murphy wrote:
> Use a usb-stick, formatted as swap.
> It will be made use of on boot up.
> I have four machines using them (up to 4gb sticks)
> ymmv

Note that questions have been asked about how long flash will last if
used for swap. (But the worst thing that can happen is that the machine
crashes and the flash becomes unusable).

Hope this helps,

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Re: DVD : read but can't burn

2009-02-21 Thread James Wilkinson
Croombe F. Pensom wrote:
> I have an LG CD/DVD reader/burner that, previous to this, has always
> worked. Now, suddenly, I can do everything EXCEPT burn a DVD. 
> Any ideas where to look?

How are you trying to burn (which program)? Do you know that you have
privileges to write to the DVD (does it work as root from the command
line)?

Are there any error messages? (Try running your program from the command
line, even if it’s graphical, and see if there are any error messages
output to the terminal.

Hope this helps,

James.

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Re: Domino on Fedora

2009-02-21 Thread James Wilkinson
Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote:
> Local delivery can be done with procmail.

Yes, but if the command expects to use /usr/sbin/sendmail to send the
mail, and that command isn’t there…

> Nothing has to listen on 25.

It might help if Domino did…

> Go with the documented solution and if needed pull sendmail back into the 
> system...   In some ways this should be very much the same as switching
> from sendmail to postfix i.e.
> 
> Postfix is a Mail Transport Agent (MTA)
> 
> A google or yahoo search of "domino MTA"
> does find links that support my assertion
> that Domino is a Mail Transoport Agent.

You’re missing the point. Postfix provides a /usr/sbin/sendmail
compatible program (as do qmail and exim, I understand) so it can be a
drop-in replacement to sendmail. The question is not whether Domino is a
MTA, but whether it is an MTA with a sendmail-compatible command line.

Hope this helps,

James.

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Re: Linux users want better desktop performance (Screw data. Prioritize code)

2009-02-21 Thread James Wilkinson
Tom Horsley wrote:
> The "prelinker" is enabled by default because one group of
> geeks want their shared libs to load 10 nanoseconds faster
> (while using 45 hours of cpu in a cron job to achieve that),
> meanwhile the security geeks enable address space randomization
> by default, thus insuring that everything the prelinker does
> will be for naught because none of the libs will ever load
> at the prelinked address.

http://lwn.net/Articles/190139/:

In an attempt to restore some of the benefits of address space
randomization, prelink is capable of randomly selecting the
addresses used for prelinking. This makes it more difficult to
perform certain attacks on a system, because the addresses used are
unique to that system. 

In other words, prelinking does address space randomization on a
per-system basis.

Or so I understand – if you have any other sources, I’d be interested to
hear them. This comes from a reputable source and matches my
understanding.

Hope this helps,

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DVD : read but can't burn

2009-02-21 Thread Croombe F. Pensom
I have an LG CD/DVD reader/burner that, previous to this, has always
worked. Now, suddenly, I can do everything EXCEPT burn a DVD. 
Any ideas where to look?
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Re: F10 -- Xen, VirtualBox, or VMWare?

2009-02-21 Thread James Wilkinson
Beartooth wrote that he:
> … did "yum install kvm virt-manager," and got both plus ten 
> dependencies.
> 
>   Is there a better way to get started than a man page?

I’d start playing with Virtual Tools -> Virtual Machine Manager or
virt-manager (from a root shell): it gives a basic graphical interface
to this.

Two things to watch out for at the moment: if you’re using SELinux,
you’ll find that ISOs and system images need to be in
/var/lib/libvirt/images, and you might need to run
restorecon /var/lib/libvirt/images/*
Otherwise you’ll get a lot of SELinux errors.

You should also review
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=475598
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=474116
if you’re intending to run a recent Linux as guest.

Hope this helps,

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Re: Network Manager problem with wpa_supplicant

2009-02-21 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 14:26 -0800, John Wendel wrote:
> Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 14:18 -0500, Richard Heck wrote:
> >> john wendel wrote:
> >>> On my newly installed F10 box, NM insists on starting wpa_supplicant, 
> >>> but I don't have any wireless devices.
> >>>
> >>> How can I configure NM so that it doesn't run wpa_supplicant?
> >>>
> >> I'd like to know that, too, but wpa can be used to secure ethernet as 
> >> well as wireless. You may not need it, but...
> >>
> >> rh
> >>
> > What happens if you right click on  the nm-applet and unclick Enable
> > Wireless.
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> > 
> 
> I don't have an "Enable Wireless" check box. Which makes sense since I 
> don't have a wireless interface.
> 
> Regards,
> ds you have presnet. But I have ben wrong before.
> John
> 
I believe you but I can't say it makes much sense. I would think that
option would be a function of nm-applet not what NIC you have present.
But I have been wrong before.
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Re: qemu-kvm: qns regarding network and usb keyboard setup

2009-02-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 07:21 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> suvayu ali wrote:
> > However my arrow keys still don't work as it usually does on regular
> > consoles. I tried using it in the QEMU monitor, and it worked there.
> > So I tried this, "sendkey up" this _did_ send the up arrow signal to
> > the terminal I had opened in the GUI. So do I have to do this every
> > time? Are there other ways to set it up to make it work the way I want
> > to?
> 
> Your keyboard is not set up correctly for the new "evdev" driver. What
> desktop environment are you using? If it's KDE, go to System Settings,
> Keyboard & Mouse and make sure the keyboard type is set to "Evdev-managed
> keyboard".

Although my kb seems to be working fine, I had a look and I don't see
anything allowing me to set the kb type. There's stuff about kb repeat,
numlock, click volume etc. and that's it. Should I be worried? This is
KDE 4.2.

poc

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Re: font problem in Fedora 10/Thunderbird

2009-02-21 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 19:21 -0700, Robert Singleton wrote:
> I just installed Fedora 10 (from FC7) on a Toshiba laptop. When reading 
> email in Thunderbird, the fonts now look rather weak and frail and are 
> rather hard to read. When composing email the fonts are just fine. This 
> is probably pretty simple to fix, but I've looked on FAQ's high and low 
> and can't find the problem. Also, I have tried changing settings in 
> Edit>Preferences>Display, and this too does not work.  If this post is 
> off topic (i.e. a thunderbird post) then my apologies. Thanks in advance 
> for any help you can provide.

Thunderbird is a Gnome application so you could try playing with the
Gnome font settings. For example, under Fonts you can try different
kinds of rendering and smoothing. I've found that these can make a
significant difference.

If you're using KDE, you can still do this by running
gnome-control-center and selecting the Appearance icon under Look and
Feel, then the Fonts tab.

poc

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Re: Swap space

2009-02-21 Thread chedi toueiti
Hi,

You can try this:
1- Create a swap file (use this if you can't change your partition layout)
via the command:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/swap_file bs=1024M count=1
2- format the swap file with :
mkswap /tmp/swap
3- add the new swap file swap system
/sbin/swapon /tmp/swap_file
4- make the swap load on boot loading
echo /sbin/swapon /tmp/swap_file >> /etc/rc.local

Regards

On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 11:23 AM, GMS S  wrote:

> Hi,
> Can anyone tell me how can I increase my space to 1GB or over 1GB?
>
> Typing "df -h"
> FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/sda6  22G   11G   11G  51% /
> tmpfs 501M  544K  500M   1% /dev/shm
> /dev/sda1  25G  8.3G   17G  34% /media/disk
> /dev/sda5  28G   12G   16G  44% /media/disk-1
>
> Typing "fdisk -l"
> Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB, 8002528 bytes
> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
> Disk identifier: 0x29032902
>
>Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
> /dev/sda1   *   1318825607578+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
> /dev/sda23189972852532550f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
> /dev/sda531896757286679617  HPFS/NTFS
> /dev/sda66758956222531131   83  Linux
> /dev/sda795639728 163+  82  Linux swap /
> Solaris
>
> Typing "swapon -s"
> FilenameTypeSizeUsedPriority
> /dev/sda7   partition15268-1
>
>
>
> I am using Fedora 10,1GB ram,80 HD,Intel(R) Pentium(R) D  CPU 2.66GHz..
>
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Re: Dmaged xterm in Fedora 10

2009-02-21 Thread Frank Murphy
Reg Clemens wrote:
> This has to be a well known problem, since it has occurred in both fc9 and 
> fc10.
> When using XTERMS under the TWM window manager in fc9 and fc10 there is
> garbage in the window, but my searches with GOOGLE have not turned up 
> anything.
> 
> If one opens one window, fine.
> If one opens a second window that overlaps the first window fine.
> But when one MOVES the top window, it takes with it blue and yellow lines from
> where the edges of the underlying window were.
> 
> Now a 'clear' will clean up most of these lines,- at least the lines in the
> interior of the window, but it leaves the marks on the edges.
> This should not be necessary.
> 
> So, this appears to be more of an X11 problem than an actual Fedora problem,
> any idea when its going to be fixed?  
> Or are there fixes out there (somewhere)?
> 
> And yes, twm is an OLD window manager, but its light weight and works fine for
> my applications.
> 
> 

Have you placed a bugzilla against twm,
it's the best way to get the attention of the developers\maintaniers.

Frank

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Re: Swap space

2009-02-21 Thread Thierry
GMS S a écrit :
> Can anyone tell me how can I increase my space to 1GB or over 1GB?

Please do not send html emails
you can either get rid of windows and use that space (I  know, cheeky)
or look at adding a swap file.
http://fcp.surfsite.org/modules/smartfaq/faq.php?faqid=502

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Re: Swap space

2009-02-21 Thread Frank Murphy
GMS S wrote:
> Hi,
> Can anyone tell me how can I increase my space to 1GB or over 1GB?
> 
> Typing "df -h"
> FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/sda6  22G   11G   11G  51% /
> tmpfs   

Use a usb-stick, formatted as swap.
It will be made use of on boot up.
I have four machines using them (up to 4gb sticks)
ymmv

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Swap space

2009-02-21 Thread GMS S
Hi,
Can anyone tell me how can I increase my space to 1GB or over 1GB?

Typing "df -h"
Filesystem    Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda6  22G   11G   11G  51% /
tmpfs 501M  544K  500M   1% /dev/shm
/dev/sda1  25G  8.3G   17G  34% /media/disk
/dev/sda5  28G   12G   16G  44% /media/disk-1

Typing "fdisk -l"
Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB, 8002528 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x29032902

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *   1    3188    25607578+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
/dev/sda2    3189    9728    52532550    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sda5    3189    6757    28667961    7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda6    6758    9562    22531131   83  Linux
/dev/sda7    9563    9728 163+  82  Linux swap / Solaris

Typing "swapon -s"
Filename                Type        Size    Used    Priority
/dev/sda7   partition    152    68    -1



I am using Fedora 10,1GB ram,80 HD,Intel(R) Pentium(R) D  CPU 2.66GHz..

Thanks.




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Re: Fedora 8 upgrade to 9 missing dependency problem

2009-02-21 Thread M A Young

On Sat, 21 Feb 2009, Langdon Stevenson wrote:

Error: Missing Dependency: libcrypto.so.6 is needed by package 
php-mysql-5.2.6-2.fc8.i386 (installed)
Error: Missing Dependency: libssl.so.6 is needed by package 
6:kdebase-3.5.10-2.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
Error: Missing Dependency: perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.8.8) is needed by package 
foomatic-3.0.2-67.fc8.i386 (installed)
Error: Missing Dependency: libcrypto.so.6 is needed by package 
qt4-x11-4.4.3-1.fc8.i386 (installed)
Error: Missing Dependency: libsilc-1.0.so.2 is needed by package 
libpurple-2.5.2-1.fc8.i386 (installed)
Error: Missing Dependency: libldap-2.3.so.0 is needed by package 
6:kdebase-3.5.10-2.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)


These are the ones you really need to understand. They aren't necessarily 
the problem themselves, but could indicate that some package doesn't have 
an update patch and is requiring the old version. I am however confused by 
the line

Error: Missing Dependency: libldap-2.3.so.0 is needed by package
6:kdebase-3.5.10-2.fc8.i386 (updates-newkey)
which suggests you are still looking at a Fedora 8 updates-newkey, and not 
a Fedora 9 one.


I also notice that kdebase in version 4 not 3 in Fedora 9, and version 3 
libraries are provided by the kdebase3 package. You could try

yum install kdebase3
and see what happens.

An alternate approach is to use preupgrade.

Michael Young


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Re: how to enable mysql on php interpreter

2009-02-21 Thread Alex de Jong

Hi David,

Did you install php through yum, or did you download sources and 
compiled them manually?

If it's the second case, try installing them from the yum repo's.

If you installed it through yum, there's something wrong with the 
dependency's..
(It seems weird to me that it can't find php-common, instead of asking 
to install it)


David Antonio Garcia Campos wrote:


hi Todd,

I tried to install it using yum install php-mysql, but i get an error 
which i've


never seen before:

Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package php-mysql.x86_64 0:5.2.6-5 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: php-common = 5.2.6-5 for package: php-mysql
---> Package php-pdo.x86_64 0:5.2.6-5 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: php-common = 5.2.6-5 for package: php-pdo
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
php-mysql-5.2.6-5.x86_64 from fedora has depsolving problems
  --> Missing Dependency: php-common = 5.2.6-5 is needed by package 
php-mysql-5.2.6-5.x86_64 (fedora)

php-pdo-5.2.6-5.x86_64 from fedora has depsolving problems
  --> Missing Dependency: php-common = 5.2.6-5 is needed by package 
php-pdo-5.2.6-5.x86_64 (fedora)
Error: Missing Dependency: php-common = 5.2.6-5 is needed by package 
php-pdo-5.2.6-5.x86_64 (fedora)
Error: Missing Dependency: php-common = 5.2.6-5 is needed by package 
php-mysql-5.2.6-5.x86_64 (fedora)



On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 12:38 AM, Todd Zullinger > wrote:


David Antonio Garcia Campos wrote:
> can anyone let me know how i can enable mysql on php?

Install the php-mysql package.

$ yum info php-mysql
[...]
Name   : php-mysql
Arch   : i386
Version: 5.2.6
Release: 5
Size   : 81 k
Repo   : fedora
Summary: A module for PHP applications that use MySQL databases
URL: http://www.php.net/
License: PHP

Description: The php-mysql package contains a dynamic shared
object that will add
  : MySQL database support to PHP. MySQL is an
object-relational database
  : management system. PHP is an HTML-embeddable scripting
language. If
  : you need MySQL support for PHP applications, you will
need to install
  : this package and the php package.


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Dmaged xterm in Fedora 10

2009-02-21 Thread Reg Clemens
This has to be a well known problem, since it has occurred in both fc9 and 
fc10.
When using XTERMS under the TWM window manager in fc9 and fc10 there is
garbage in the window, but my searches with GOOGLE have not turned up anything.

If one opens one window, fine.
If one opens a second window that overlaps the first window fine.
But when one MOVES the top window, it takes with it blue and yellow lines from
where the edges of the underlying window were.

Now a 'clear' will clean up most of these lines,- at least the lines in the
interior of the window, but it leaves the marks on the edges.
This should not be necessary.

So, this appears to be more of an X11 problem than an actual Fedora problem,
any idea when its going to be fixed?  
Or are there fixes out there (somewhere)?

And yes, twm is an OLD window manager, but its light weight and works fine for
my applications.


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Re: Fedora 8 upgrade to 9 missing dependency problem

2009-02-21 Thread Langdon Stevenson

Kevin Kofler wrote:

Langdon Stevenson wrote:

Can anyone suggest how I can troubleshoot this and resolve the issue?  I
have found a few people had similar issues, but saw no solution suggested.


You need to include the F9 updates-newkey repo. Also make sure you're using
the "Everything" repo, not the "Fedora" repo (which contains only the
packages on the installer DVD), for the non-updated packages.

Kevin Kofler


Hi Kevin, thanks for the fast reply.

  yum repolist

returns the following:

 repo idrepo name
 adobe-linux-i386   Adobe Systems Incorporated 


 fedora Fedora 9 - i386
 livna  Livna for Fedora Core 9 - i386 - Base
 rpmfusion-free RPM Fusion for Fedora 9 - Free
 rpmfusion-free-updates RPM Fusion for Fedora 9 - Free - Updates
 rpmfusion-nonfree  RPM Fusion for Fedora 9 - Nonfree
 rpmfusion-nonfree-updates  RPM Fusion for Fedora 9 - Nonfree - Updates
 updatesFedora 9 - i386 - Updates
 updates-newkey Fedora 9 - i386 - Updates Newkey

All of these repos are enabled.  So it looks like I have your first 
point covered?



My /etc/yum.repo.d/fedora.repo contains:

[fedora]
name=Fedora $releasever - $basearch
failovermethod=priority
#baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/$releasever/Everything/$basearch/os/
mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-$releasever&arch=$basearch
enabled=1
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-$basearch

Which I think satisfies your second point.

Can you see anything wrong with what I have here?  Is there any specific 
info that I can provide which would help?


Langdon

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Re: qemu-kvm: qns regarding network and usb keyboard setup

2009-02-21 Thread suvayu ali
2009/2/20 Kevin Kofler :
> suvayu ali wrote:
>> However my arrow keys still don't work as it usually does on regular
>> consoles. I tried using it in the QEMU monitor, and it worked there.
>> So I tried this, "sendkey up" this _did_ send the up arrow signal to
>> the terminal I had opened in the GUI. So do I have to do this every
>> time? Are there other ways to set it up to make it work the way I want
>> to?
>
> Your keyboard is not set up correctly for the new "evdev" driver. What
> desktop environment are you using? If it's KDE, go to System Settings,
> Keyboard & Mouse and make sure the keyboard type is set to "Evdev-managed
> keyboard".
>
I use Gnome and Windowmaker alternatively. You suggesting my keyboard
may not be set up correctly, led me to this,

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478976

I hadn't suspected the keyboard driver to be the culprit (well ... not
exactly as per the bug report its kvm) as everything is working
perfectly on the host. Even the media keys are working as its supposed
to. Thanks for the pointer. :)

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