Re: Wallpaper for Beta?
Hey Nicu~ - Original Message From: Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro There are a few things I am not happy about, like the grass not being green enough and the sky being more cyan than blue, but there is time for those after the Beta. It started out a lot more green cyan (see Mola's original mockup, bottom here: http://mola.fedorapeople.org/gimp/view/) But trying that as a wallpaper, it was way too intense and contrasty / distracting for a wallpaper. :( ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Wallpaper for Beta?
On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 21:35 -0800, Máirín Duffy wrote: This is what I've got https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Artwork#Beta_Mockups It's not perfect, but it's something what do you think? ~m Hi Mo, I've put them to a rpm package [1]. I'll submit it for inclusion in fedora later if you find it good. Martin References: [1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/packages/rawhide/noarch/leonidas-backgrounds-10.92.0-1.fc11.noarch.rpm signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Wallpaper for Beta?
Hey Nicu! - Original Message From: Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro I tried a quick trick starting from one of Mola's images (attached): decreased the saturation and increased the lightness a bit, the colors are closer to what I have in mind (but I should have applied the lightness/saturation operation separately to the grass and sky). Would you mind applying those changes to the newer mockup I posted to the wiki last night? The reason I ask is because Mola's mockup has brushes that don't have an explicit license so I had to redo parts of the image. ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 36, Issue 6
Just a quick unrelated question. Is it too early to suggest ideas for fedora12? I have also done an animation course, is there anyway that I could help out with this? Or any other design projects I could help with? --- On Fri, 6/3/09, fedora-art-list-requ...@redhat.com fedora-art-list-requ...@redhat.com wrote: From: fedora-art-list-requ...@redhat.com fedora-art-list-requ...@redhat.com Subject: Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 36, Issue 6 To: fedora-art-list@redhat.com Received: Friday, 6 March, 2009, 2:06 AM Send Fedora-art-list mailing list submissions to fedora-art-list@redhat.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to fedora-art-list-requ...@redhat.com You can reach the person managing the list at fedora-art-list-ow...@redhat.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Fedora-art-list digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Wallpaper for Beta? (Nicu Buculei) 2. Re: Wallpaper for Beta? (M?ir?n Duffy) 3. Re: Wallpaper for Beta? (Martin Sourada) 4. Re: Wallpaper for Beta? (Nicu Buculei) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:44:28 +0200 From: Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro Subject: Re: Wallpaper for Beta? To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 49af82dc.4040...@nicubunu.ro Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Máirín Duffy wrote: From: Paul W. Frields When is the decision going to be made about which one goes in the Beta? This is what I've got https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Artwork#Beta_Mockups It's not perfect, but it's something what do you think? I think we can go with one of those for beta, my option would be for on *with* a temple (Betamockup1_wide_right.png). There are a few things I am not happy about, like the grass not being green enough and the sky being more cyan than blue, but there is time for those after the Beta. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ -- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 04:38:24 -0800 (PST) From: M?ir?n Duffy mai...@linuxgrrl.com Subject: Re: Wallpaper for Beta? To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 932306.4533...@web50901.mail.re2.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hey Nicu~ - Original Message From: Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro There are a few things I am not happy about, like the grass not being green enough and the sky being more cyan than blue, but there is time for those after the Beta. It started out a lot more green cyan (see Mola's original mockup, bottom here: http://mola.fedorapeople.org/gimp/view/) But trying that as a wallpaper, it was way too intense and contrasty / distracting for a wallpaper. :( ~m -- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:03:18 +0100 From: Martin Sourada martin.sour...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Wallpaper for Beta? To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 1236258198.5357.3.ca...@pc-notebook.kolej.mff.cuni.cz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 21:35 -0800, Máirín Duffy wrote: This is what I've got https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Artwork#Beta_Mockups It's not perfect, but it's something what do you think? ~m Hi Mo, I've put them to a rpm package [1]. I'll submit it for inclusion in fedora later if you find it good. Martin References: [1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/packages/rawhide/noarch/leonidas-backgrounds-10.92.0-1.fc11.noarch.rpm -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/attachments/20090305/60fc5bfc/attachment.bin -- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:05:48 +0200 From: Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro Subject: Re: Wallpaper for Beta? To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 49afce2c.9030...@nicubunu.ro Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Máirín Duffy wrote: From: Nicu Buculei There are a few things I am not happy about, like the grass not being green enough and the sky being more cyan than blue, but there is time for those after the Beta. It started out a lot more green cyan (see Mola's original mockup, bottom here: http://mola.fedorapeople.org/gimp/view/) I know Mola's images, we talked about them on IRC before he mailed to the list. But trying that as a wallpaper, it was way too intense and contrasty / distracting for a wallpaper. :( You are right, Mola's colors are too saturated
Re: Wallpaper for Beta?
On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 03:05:48PM +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: The hard reality is an wallpaper like this will be inevitably compared with the default Windows XP wallpaper, which had set a standard in people's minds: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Windows_XP_SP3.png Interesting that you mention this, because looking at a couple of the beta releases for Windows 7, I notice they've gone for a wallpaper that looks *really* close to the Fedora 9 default wallpaper: http://www.askvg.com/download-windows-7-official-wallpaper-shown-at-pdc-2008/ http://www.askvg.com/download-windows-7-beta-build-6936-default-desktop-wallpaper/ I suppose one could take the position that if Microsoft does it, it's bad, but we should recognize they have a lot of money to spend on design, and they've come up with something very close to what you, the Fedora Artwork team, did in the past year with free tools and open processes. That speaks volumes for this team in my opinion. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgp0GzBnVfuDN.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Wallpaper for Beta?
On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 09:35:52PM -0800, Máirín Duffy wrote: From: Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com When is the decision going to be made about which one goes in the Beta? This is what I've got https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F11_Artwork#Beta_Mockups It's not perfect, but it's something what do you think? WANT. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgpdR7YE0ZnV1.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Wallpaper for Beta?
Máirín Duffy wrote: Would you mind applying those changes to the newer mockup I posted to the wiki last night? I can't apply the same changes sing the image is different, but I tried something: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Artwork_F11_Betamockup1_n.jpg https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Artwork_F11_Betamockup1_n.xcf.bz2 Personally I like a bit better this way: the color adjustment layer was removes since it made the sky more cyan and the color balance for the background was altered to reduce the cyan more. Also the Cliff overlay layer was removed and the color balance of the Cliff - Base was altered to make it greener. But I am not entirely happy with what I did... -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora-art-list Digest, Vol 36, Issue 6
brian hurren wrote: Just a quick unrelated question. Is it too early to suggest ideas for fedora12? Yes, is a bit earlier since we don't know how the process will be going (for F11 we tried something new, tying the theme to the release name and going with a single concept). But if you have some idea, you can create a wiki page about it and when the time will come, bring it into discussion. I have also done an animation course, is there anyway that I could help out with this? Or any other design projects I could help with? There are a number of open requests begging for attention in the Design Service queue: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService Also, Martin and Luya could probably use some help with the Echo theme: https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/ Tell us more about animation, probably we can use some (as long as they are in Free formats and preferably developed with Open tools). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
[echo-perspective] New computer icon set
Hi, I've created a computer icon [1] for echo-perspective. I was having pretty serious difficulties with the keyboard design, so I decided to rather adapt the mango one [2]. Since it's also CC-BY-SA it should be OK. Comments welcome, Martin References: [1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/echo-perspective/computer.svg [2] http://cgit.freedesktop.org/tango/tango-icon-library/tree/svg/input-keyboard.svg attachment: computer.png signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
[Bug 466404] Segmentation fault.
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rpms/lohit-fonts/devel .cvsignore, 1.9, 1.10 lohit-fonts.spec, 1.11, 1.12 sources, 1.9, 1.10
Author: rbhalera
Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/lohit-fonts/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv19490
Modified Files:
.cvsignore lohit-fonts.spec sources
Log Message:
New bugfixed version: lohit-fonts-2.3.8
Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/lohit-fonts/devel/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.9
retrieving revision 1.10
diff -u -r1.9 -r1.10
--- .cvsignore 9 Sep 2008 12:08:11 - 1.9
+++ .cvsignore 5 Mar 2009 14:12:48 - 1.10
@@ -1 +1 @@
-lohit-fonts-2.3.1.tar.gz
+lohit-fonts-2.3.8.tar.gz
Index: lohit-fonts.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/lohit-fonts/devel/lohit-fonts.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.11
retrieving revision 1.12
diff -u -r1.11 -r1.12
--- lohit-fonts.spec25 Feb 2009 20:57:00 - 1.11
+++ lohit-fonts.spec5 Mar 2009 14:12:48 - 1.12
@@ -7,8 +7,8 @@
Name: %{fontname}-fonts
-Version:2.3.1
-Release:3%{?dist}
+Version:2.3.8
+Release:1%{?dist}
Summary:Free Indian truetype/opentype fonts
Group: User Interface/X
@@ -33,6 +33,17 @@
This package consists of files used by other %{name} packages.
+%package -n %{fontname}-assamese-fonts
+Summary:Free Assamese font
+Group: User Interface/X
+Requires: %{name}-common = %{version}-%{release}
+
+%description -n %{fontname}-assamese-fonts
+%common_desc
+This package provides a free Assamese truetype/opentype font.
+
+%_font_pkg -n assamese lohit_as.ttf
+
%package -n %{fontname}-bengali-fonts
Summary:Free Bengali font
Group: User Interface/X
@@ -256,6 +267,16 @@
%changelog
+
+* Thu Mar 05 2009 Rahul Bhalerao rbhal...@redhat.com - 2.3.8-1.fc11
+- Bug 428427 - [kn_IN][fonts-indic] - 0CB5+0CCA is wrongly rendering
+- Bug 450699 - [ta_IN]Errors in sh and shrI in Lohit Tamil font (fixed in
font, needs rendering update)
+- Bug 476427 - [te_IN] - Consonant+Virama+Consonant+Virama+space renders the
second virama as a separate glyph in
+ lohit-telugu font
+- Bug 479100 - [kn_IN] Conjunct combination of U0C9D with U0CCA/U0CCB is
rendering wrongly
+- Bug 483530 - [bn_IN]Lohit Bengali font cheating about character support
+- Added Lohit-Assamese
+
* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org
- 2.3.1-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/lohit-fonts/devel/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.9
retrieving revision 1.10
diff -u -r1.9 -r1.10
--- sources 9 Sep 2008 12:08:11 - 1.9
+++ sources 5 Mar 2009 14:12:48 - 1.10
@@ -1 +1 @@
-ca26218fc6323633210c674fe9e2f9d2 lohit-fonts-2.3.1.tar.gz
+f3b5c3cd8e370f1669d44cec3eab1f2b lohit-fonts-2.3.8.tar.gz
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[Bug 428427] [kn_IN][fonts-indic] - 0CB5+0CCA is wrongly rendering
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[Bug 450699] [ta_IN] Errors in sh and shrI in Lohit Tamil font
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=450699 Rahul Bhalerao rbhal...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED Resolution||RAWHIDE Summary|lohit-fonts: Errors in sh |[ta_IN] Errors in sh and |and shrI in Lohit Tamil |shrI in Lohit Tamil font |font| --- Comment #5 from Rahul Bhalerao rbhal...@redhat.com 2009-03-05 09:24:55 EDT --- Font fixed in lohit-fonts-2.3.8. Please wait for an update in pango for final resolve. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 476427] [te_IN] - Consonant+Virama+Consonant+Virama+space renders the second virama as a separate glyph in lohit-telugu font
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=476427 Rahul Bhalerao rbhal...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |CLOSED Resolution||RAWHIDE --- Comment #8 from Rahul Bhalerao rbhal...@redhat.com 2009-03-05 09:32:13 EDT --- Fixed in lohit-fonts-2.3.8. (lohit-telugu-fonts-2.3.8-1) Padmanabhan, I tried using your patch. Unfortunately it did not work. Baiscally the solution involved two simple changes, 1.Changing the lookup properties for 'ignore marks' at one place 2.Changing the glyph type for all the 'blwf' forms of consonants to 'Mark' from 'BaseGlyph'. Thanks for the work you did on this bug. Your analysis has helped a lot in fixing it. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 483530] [bn_IN] Lohit Bengali font cheating about character support
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[Bug 479100] [kn_IN] Conjunct combination of U0C9D with U0CCA/U0CCB is rendering wrongly
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[Bug 486977] Review Request: gnu-free-fonts
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[Bug 479238] please update to latest release (20090104)
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[Bug 486977] Review Request: gnu-free-fonts
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=486977 Jon Ciesla l...@jcomserv.net changed: What|Removed |Added Flag|needinfo?(l...@jcomserv.net | |) | --- Comment #2 from Jon Ciesla l...@jcomserv.net 2009-03-05 11:55:23 EDT --- Corrected all but 9. Can't test if 9 is needed in rawhide as mock builds are failing at the yum step with 404s, even with a fresh root cache. Probably a temporary issue. rel-eng ticket: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1225 Otherwise I *think * I hit all your points. SPEC: http://zanoni.jcomserv.net/fedora/gnu-free-fonts/gnu-free-fonts.spec SRPM: http://zanoni.jcomserv.net/fedora/gnu-free-fonts/gnu-free-fonts-20090104-4.fc10.src.rpm -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 488675] fontforge ignores keyboard input since last system update
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[Bug 477416] [lilypond] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
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[Bug 477044] [Tracker] Deploy new font packaging guidelines for Fedora 11
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[Bug 486977] Review Request: gnu-free-fonts
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--- Comment #4 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-03-05
15:13:58 EDT ---
We're getting there :)
1. you still have at least one %define in common_desc (probably did not notice
it because you've reordered the template)
2.you still have a needless group declaration in your common package
3. you should simplify your subpackage names (for example use
%{fontname}-mono-fonts instead of %{fontname}-freemono-fonts). Repeating the
project name does not really help users.
4. you need to drop
Requires: gnu-free-fonts-freemono-fonts = %{version}-%{release}
Requires: gnu-free-fonts-freesans-fonts = %{version}-%{release}
Requires: gnu-free-fonts-freeserif-fonts = %{version}-%{release}
Obsoletes: freefont 20090104-2
from your main package
5. you probably don't need to obsolete package names that were never pushed to
user systems, this obsolete data will never be used
6. you don't need
%dir %{_fontdir}
in your common package
7. you can unroll the for loop, but if you do so make sure you don't reference
the for variable anymore
8. your fontconfig rule filenames need to start with a number to work (in your
case 60 is probably fine, see
/usr/share/fontconfig/templates/fontconfig-priorities.txt)
9. your fontconfig rules won't work if you just put the font name everywhere
blindly. See /usr/share/fontconfig/templates/fontconfig-generics.txt and
/usr/share/fontconfig/templates/basic-font-template.txt
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[Bug 486977] Review Request: gnu-free-fonts
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=486977 --- Comment #5 from Jon Ciesla l...@jcomserv.net 2009-03-05 15:53:44 EDT --- Better? SPEC: http://zanoni.jcomserv.net/fedora/gnu-free-fonts/gnu-free-fonts.spec SRPM: http://zanoni.jcomserv.net/fedora/gnu-free-fonts/gnu-free-fonts-20090104-6.fc10.src.rpm -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 477416] [lilypond] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477416 --- Comment #30 from Jonathan Underwood jonathan.underw...@gmail.com 2009-03-05 16:58:47 EDT --- Sorry I didn't respond, I missed the mail. To be honest I wouldn't have said much helpful anyway, tex font packaging is a mess. I am starting to think about how to sort it out and putting a proposal together as part of a concerted effort to rationalize tex packaging in general. But, real life is making this a slow goal. sorry. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 479238] please update to latest release (freefont-ttf-20090104)
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=479238 Jens Petersen peter...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Summary|please update to latest |please update to latest |release (20090104) |release ||(freefont-ttf-20090104) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 473836] Fonts in GNOME look blurry (was: in Firefox)
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473836 Jens Petersen peter...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||peter...@redhat.com Severity|high|medium -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 486977] Review Request: gnu-free-fonts
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Introduction
Hello everyone, My name is Cliff Chandler, and I'm a student at GA State University. I'm really looking forward to being involved with Fedora. I've been using Fedora since Fedora 6, and I've been gradually using it more and more, and now I nearly depend on it. At school I do all my programming in Java, so I've become quite proficient at that, however in my free time, I prefer to write in C and play with OpenGL and SDL. As for web development, I am comfortable with HTML/CSS, PHP (and SQL when a database is needed), and basic JavaScript. Python seems to be more important every day, so I've just started with that as well. I've checked out the infrastructure/getting started page (this message is to the infrastructure-list as well as the websites-list), but any more guidance is appreciated. -Cliff ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Introduction
Clifford Chandler wrote: Hello everyone, My name is Cliff Chandler, and I'm a student at GA State University. I'm really looking forward to being involved with Fedora. I've been using Fedora since Fedora 6, and I've been gradually using it more and more, and now I nearly depend on it. At school I do all my programming in Java, so I've become quite proficient at that, however in my free time, I prefer to write in C and play with OpenGL and SDL. As for web development, I am comfortable with HTML/CSS, PHP (and SQL when a database is needed), and basic JavaScript. Python seems to be more important every day, so I've just started with that as well. I've checked out the infrastructure/getting started page (this message is to the infrastructure-list as well as the websites-list), but any more guidance is appreciated. Hi Cliff! If you're looking to program in C, Fedora does a lot of work upstream on a lot of programs written in C. Offering to look into bugs and do debugging of issues in C programs in fedora-devel-list is one, Fedora-centric way to get involved there. Working with upstreams directly to code new features that Fedora wants is another way. If you're looking to do more things directly related to Fedora, the web team and infrastructure could both use your talents in web development. Infrastructure concentrates more on programming the web applications that we run (the accounts system, package database, koji build system, bodhi updates, mirrormanager, smolt, and others). These are all written in python using the TurboGears web framework. There's work for people interested in working with HTML, CSS, JavaScript and Python here. ricky, ianweller, and mizmo can better fill you in on what they could put you to work doing in websites. If you're on IRC we all tend to hang out on irc.freenode.net, #fedora-admin (infrastructure) and #fedora-websites I'm abadger1999 if you have questions about getting started in an initial project. -Toshio signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Change Freeze and an exception
Hey guys, just a reminder the beta release is to be released at the end of the month. The change freeze will start on the 10th and be lifted on March 25th. Also during this freeze we're going to be working with the translations team to deploy a new tx instance. Based on what I know the risk to the beta release is fairly low. At worst we'll see some downtime on our webapps for a small period of time. Still, it's a risk and we'll be treating tx like everything else and asking for changes every time we have them... but be prepared, there could be many. -Mike ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Outstanding tickets
If you have one of the tickets below please do clean it up :) Some are over a year old. 1 boodle 1 bretm 1 elections-members 1 fchiulli 1 ggruener 1 ivazquez 1 jcollie_jsmith 1 jkeating 1 mdomsch 1 onekopaka 1 owner 1 santosp 1 skvidal 1 sspreitzer 1 steved 1 susmit 1 ynemoy 2 damian 2 glezos 2 laxathom 2 mmahut 2 web-members 2 webmaster 4 huzaifas 4 ianweller 4 jcollie 4 lmacken 4 sysadmin-noc-members 6 notting 6 toshio 10 ausil 10 mmcgrath 10 santosp_ricky_mmcgrath 14 nigelj 14 ricky 14 sysadmin-hosted-members 39 nobody -Mike ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Wordpress?
Hey folks, I was wondering if anyone had interest in setting up a Wordpress MU install for Fedora's infrastructure? Gerold Kassube on the marketing team had this cool idea to set up a blog per Fedora foundation (freedom, friends, features, first) and the multiuser capabilities of wordpress seem ideal to drive the project. Let me know if you have any interest in this. It would be really, really useful for Fedora's marketing. Thanks, ~m ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Wordpress?
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Máirín Duffy du...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Hey folks, I was wondering if anyone had interest in setting up a Wordpress MU install for Fedora's infrastructure? Gerold Kassube on the marketing team had this cool idea to set up a blog per Fedora foundation (freedom, friends, features, first) and the multiuser capabilities of wordpress seem ideal to drive the project. Let me know if you have any interest in this. It would be really, really useful for Fedora's marketing. Thanks, ~m I'd like you to sell me on the reason for four different blogs (essentially what WP-MU gives) as I've set up WP-MU before and it's pretty easy... My concern is that it would be just as easy to create topics in one blog and just customize pages to pull based upon topic. Pretty easy to do actually. So anyway, if you can make a good argument for MU, I'd love to help. Clint ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Wordpress?
On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Clint Savage wrote: On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Máirín Duffy du...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Hey folks, I was wondering if anyone had interest in setting up a Wordpress MU install for Fedora's infrastructure? Gerold Kassube on the marketing team had this cool idea to set up a blog per Fedora foundation (freedom, friends, features, first) and the multiuser capabilities of wordpress seem ideal to drive the project. Let me know if you have any interest in this. It would be really, really useful for Fedora's marketing. Thanks, ~m I'd like you to sell me on the reason for four different blogs (essentially what WP-MU gives) as I've set up WP-MU before and it's pretty easy... My concern is that it would be just as easy to create topics in one blog and just customize pages to pull based upon topic. Pretty easy to do actually. So anyway, if you can make a good argument for MU, I'd love to help. actually MU was picked a long time ago, just no one has had time to set it up. -Mike___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Wordpress?
2009/3/5 Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com: On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Clint Savage wrote: On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Máirín Duffy du...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Hey folks, I was wondering if anyone had interest in setting up a Wordpress MU install for Fedora's infrastructure? Gerold Kassube on the marketing team had this cool idea to set up a blog per Fedora foundation (freedom, friends, features, first) and the multiuser capabilities of wordpress seem ideal to drive the project. Let me know if you have any interest in this. It would be really, really useful for Fedora's marketing. Thanks, ~m I'd like you to sell me on the reason for four different blogs (essentially what WP-MU gives) as I've set up WP-MU before and it's pretty easy... My concern is that it would be just as easy to create topics in one blog and just customize pages to pull based upon topic. Pretty easy to do actually. So anyway, if you can make a good argument for MU, I'd love to help. actually MU was picked a long time ago, just no one has had time to set it up. -Mike ___ Mike, Do you have a link to the mailing list thread? I'd like to read up on it. I like MU, don't get me wrong, just wonder why it was chosen. Clint ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
RE: F10 installation on Hp laptop(dv5-1210tx)
Ok. Do you have a connection such as broadband? It seems your first problem is getting connected to the internet. I think you need to setup a wired link to your router first with DHCP enable and see what happens. There are no security settings so you should just connect. From there we can proceed with the other problems. Let the updater update everything. Regards On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 13:06 +0530, Gyan PRAKASH wrote: In Add/Remove packages, I’m not able view anything. It says, “unable to load the package view list, it should be done at backend”. Is it because I’m not able connect to internet, and the list has to be downloaded from http server? __ From: Ray Ward [mailto:rayfw...@sky.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 1:26 PM To: Gyan PRAKASH Cc: 'Miguel Angel Perez'; fedora-laptop-list@redhat.com Subject: RE: F10 installation on Hp laptop(dv5-1210tx) Look in Add/remove packages and search for Pulse. The first item should be this. Enable pulseaudio support in KDE. It's unlikely the Nvidia driver would stop sound working. On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 10:40 +0530, Gyan PRAKASH wrote: After installing NVIDIA graphics drivers(NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-180.35-pkg1.run) sound is not working!!! From: gyan prakash [mailto:gyan.prak...@st.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:35 AM To: 'Miguel Angel Perez'; 'fedora-laptop-list@redhat.com' Subject: RE: F10 installation on Hp laptop(dv5-1210tx) Hello, My laptop multimedia-keys(HP smart keys) works fine in GNOME desktop but doesn’t work with KDE. Also, Internet is not getting configured. When I plugin the LAN wire, it says connected and the ip address displayed is different to what I see in windows. I have a external modem connected to broadband service provider. Please provide suggestion to configure the above. Thanks, Gyan From: Miguel Angel Perez [mailto:mang...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 5:48 PM To: Gyan PRAKASH Subject: Re: F10 installation on Hp laptop(dv5-1210tx) Rpmfusion is easy to set up: http://rpmfusion.org/Configuration/ The nvidia-driver is propietary but you are allowed to use it as you own the card, so you sould not care about licensing issues about it. Only philosofical issues for being using a propietary binary thing into your free kernel. The audio card can be a problem. You first have to identify the chipset and know if alsa supports it, you can start in alsa's web site instructions for new alsa users: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page Good luck! 2009/2/27 Gyan PRAKASH gyan.prak...@st.com Hey, but am more worried about the Audio card. I tried with F10 KDE live CD but no sound was audible! Also how do I get rpm-fusion usage license? Is their any alternate method to get sound working on my laptop? From: Miguel Angel Perez [mailto:mang...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 5:20 PM To: Gyan PRAKASH Cc: fedora-laptop-list@redhat.com; gyan...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: F10 installation on Hp laptop(dv5-1210tx) Nvidia graphics will be supported if you use rpm fusion non-free repository, the processor is supported, the touchpad too, the network card too, but the tv tunner the audo codec and the HP MeadiaSmart thing should be check before. The best thing is trying first with a live cd and check that everything works out of the box. With a live cd you should not have proper video aceleration as it will use the default nv driver for your nvidia card until you set up rpmfusion and install nvidia propietary kernel, so don't worry about the video performance. 2009/2/27 Gyan PRAKASH gyan.prak...@st.com Hello, Hey, did anyone tried Fedora(F10) on HP dv5-1210tx laptop. Following are the specs of my laptop 1. Intel Core 2 Duo 2Ghz 2. NVIDIA GeForce 9200M GS/9600M GT Video/Graphic 3. Synaptics PS/2 Port TouchPad 4. HP Integrated Digital TV Tuner 5. IDT High-Definition Audio CODEC 6. Realtek PCI-E Fast Ethernet NIC 7. HP MediaSmart Am scared of whether the above mentioned sound/graphics and network hardware’s would work or NOT? Please provide feedback! Regards, Gyan
RE: F10 installation on Hp laptop(dv5-1210tx)
Yes I do have a broadband connected to external modem. When I pug-in the LAN cable, it says connected, but nothing works! I verified the ip-address but it’s not the one which I get while running vista. I need a detail diagnose procedure to catch the problem. _ From: Ray Ward [mailto:rayfw...@sky.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:31 PM To: Gyan PRAKASH Cc: fedora-laptop-list@redhat.com Subject: RE: F10 installation on Hp laptop(dv5-1210tx) Ok. Do you have a connection such as broadband? It seems your first problem is getting connected to the internet. I think you need to setup a wired link to your router first with DHCP enable and see what happens. There are no security settings so you should just connect. From there we can proceed with the other problems. Let the updater update everything. Regards On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 13:06 +0530, Gyan PRAKASH wrote: In Add/Remove packages, I’m not able view anything. It says, “unable to load the package view list, it should be done at backend”. Is it because I’m not able connect to internet, and the list has to be downloaded from http server? _ From: Ray Ward [mailto:rayfw...@sky.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 1:26 PM To: Gyan PRAKASH Cc: 'Miguel Angel Perez'; fedora-laptop-list@redhat.com Subject: RE: F10 installation on Hp laptop(dv5-1210tx) Look in Add/remove packages and search for Pulse. The first item should be this. Enable pulseaudio support in KDE. It's unlikely the Nvidia driver would stop sound working. On Wed, 2009-03-04 at 10:40 +0530, Gyan PRAKASH wrote: After installing NVIDIA graphics drivers(NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-180.35-pkg1.run) sound is not working!!! _ From: gyan prakash [mailto:gyan.prak...@st.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:35 AM To: 'Miguel Angel Perez'; 'fedora-laptop-list@redhat.com' Subject: RE: F10 installation on Hp laptop(dv5-1210tx) Hello, My laptop multimedia-keys(HP smart keys) works fine in GNOME desktop but doesn’t work with KDE. Also, Internet is not getting configured. When I plugin the LAN wire, it says connected and the ip address displayed is different to what I see in windows. I have a external modem connected to broadband service provider. Please provide suggestion to configure the above. Thanks, Gyan _ From: Miguel Angel Perez [mailto:mang...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 5:48 PM To: Gyan PRAKASH Subject: Re: F10 installation on Hp laptop(dv5-1210tx) Rpmfusion is easy to set up: http://rpmfusion.org/Configuration/ The nvidia-driver is propietary but you are allowed to use it as you own the card, so you sould not care about licensing issues about it. Only philosofical issues for being using a propietary binary thing into your free kernel. The audio card can be a problem. You first have to identify the chipset and know if alsa supports it, you can start in alsa's web site instructions for new alsa users: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page Good luck! 2009/2/27 Gyan PRAKASH gyan.prak...@st.com Hey, but am more worried about the Audio card. I tried with F10 KDE live CD but no sound was audible! Also how do I get rpm-fusion usage license? Is their any alternate method to get sound working on my laptop? _ From: Miguel Angel Perez [mailto:mang...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 5:20 PM To: Gyan PRAKASH Cc: fedora-laptop-list@redhat.com; gyan...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: F10 installation on Hp laptop(dv5-1210tx) Nvidia graphics will be supported if you use rpm fusion non-free repository, the processor is supported, the touchpad too, the network card too, but the tv tunner the audo codec and the HP MeadiaSmart thing should be check before. The best thing is trying first with a live cd and check that everything works out of the box. With a live cd you should not have proper video aceleration as it will use the default nv driver for your nvidia card until you set up rpmfusion and install nvidia propietary kernel, so don't worry about the video performance. 2009/2/27 Gyan PRAKASH gyan.prak...@st.com Hello, Hey, did anyone tried Fedora(F10) on HP dv5-1210tx laptop. Following are the specs of my laptop 1. Intel Core 2 Duo 2Ghz 2. NVIDIA GeForce 9200M GS/9600M GT Video/Graphic 3. Synaptics PS/2 Port TouchPad 4. HP Integrated Digital TV Tuner 5. IDT High-Definition Audio CODEC 6. Realtek PCI-E Fast Ethernet NIC 7. HP MediaSmart Am scared of whether the above mentioned sound/graphics and network hardware’s would work or NOT? Please provide feedback! Regards, Gyan ___ Fedora-laptop-list mailing list Fedora-laptop-list@redhat.com
[Fedora-legal-list] Openstreetmap moving to Open Database License (ODbL)
Hi, Openstreetmap project is about to change their license from CC-BY-SA to ODbL: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2009-February/001958.html http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Open_Database_License The Openstreetmap foundation has opened a discussion about the license. It will end on March, 20th. It intends to publish the definitive license on March, 28th. Therefore I'd like to know if this license would permit to include Openstreetmap contents (e.g. maps) in the Fedora Project or if it has some problems. I think that it would be very useful if problems could arise now that the license is not yet released or used. Bye, Andrea. ___ Fedora-legal-list mailing list Fedora-legal-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legal-list
Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Openstreetmap moving to Open Database License (ODbL)
On 03/05/2009 06:19 AM, Andrea Musuruane wrote: Hi, Openstreetmap project is about to change their license from CC-BY-SA to ODbL: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2009-February/001958.html http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Open_Database_License The Openstreetmap foundation has opened a discussion about the license. It will end on March, 20th. It intends to publish the definitive license on March, 28th. Therefore I'd like to know if this license would permit to include Openstreetmap contents (e.g. maps) in the Fedora Project or if it has some problems. I think that it would be very useful if problems could arise now that the license is not yet released or used. I really don't want to subscribe to another mailing list... would you be willing to relay comments to the Open Data Commons people? Looking at the Factual Information License, I've got some concerns. I asked Red Hat Legal to take a look at it, and this was their reply: I think the problem with this one is that the definition of Use introduces some fundamental uncertainty. If it really means any act that is restricted by copyright, and this license does seem to be trying to be a copyright license, then there ought to be no problem, since Use should encompass any act of modification that is restricted by applicable copyright -- e.g. rights to create derivative works under U.S. copyright law. However, then they bother to say modifying the Work as may be technically necessary to use it in a different mode or format. That sounds like they might be implying that broader acts of modification are not within the scope of Use, despite the apparent reach of the first part of the definition. And if Use does indeed encompass only a proper subset of copyright-law modification acts, then it would be non-free. While in general that wouldn't necessarily be true, but here the narrow interpretation suggests it is non-free because the apparently-granted modification rights are too limited. In addition, I'm concerned that there does not appear to be any explicit grant of permission to redistribute content under the Factual Information License without restriction. (RH Legal is still looking at the ODBL, they should have comments on that later, which I will pass along). Thanks in advance, ~spot ___ Fedora-legal-list mailing list Fedora-legal-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legal-list
Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Openstreetmap moving to Open Database License (ODbL)
Therefore I'd like to know if this license would permit to include Openstreetmap contents (e.g. maps) in the Fedora Project or if it has some problems. Looking at the Factual Information License, I've got some concerns. I asked Red Hat Legal to take a look at it, and this was their reply: [snip] (RH Legal is still looking at the ODBL, they should have comments on that later, which I will pass along). Thank you Andrea for bringing this issue here, and thank you Tom for looking at it. I'm currently developing shomyu (which might eventually get its way into Fedora one day) and it uses OSM data, so I'm really concerned about this licensing change. /me blesses the day he decided to join this list Regards, -- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin ___ Fedora-legal-list mailing list Fedora-legal-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legal-list
[Fedora-legal-list] Do we need to remove proprietary code from previous releases?
Recently I took over the orphaned package libzzub in F-10 and devel. I found that the upstream renamed the package to armstrong, so I opened a review request for armstrong and it just got approved. But whenever I was packaging armstrong, I found that the source tarball contains some MS propriatary code. This code does not get compiled into the final binary RPM but I removed it from the tarball when I created the SRPM. libzzub is now going through the PackageEndOfLife process and will be removed from F-10 and devel soon. The thing is, the old package libzzub that is in F-7, F-8 and F-9 still has this code in the SRPM. How shall we proceed in this case? Orcan PS: Specifically, the directory src/rtaudio/include needs to be removed from the libzzub tarball. ___ Fedora-legal-list mailing list Fedora-legal-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legal-list
Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Do we need to remove proprietary code from previous releases?
On 03/05/2009 02:36 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: Recently I took over the orphaned package libzzub in F-10 and devel. I found that the upstream renamed the package to armstrong, so I opened a review request for armstrong and it just got approved. But whenever I was packaging armstrong, I found that the source tarball contains some MS propriatary code. This code does not get compiled into the final binary RPM but I removed it from the tarball when I created the SRPM. libzzub is now going through the PackageEndOfLife process and will be removed from F-10 and devel soon. The thing is, the old package libzzub that is in F-7, F-8 and F-9 still has this code in the SRPM. How shall we proceed in this case? Push updates for any non EOL branches without the proprietary gunk. In this case, F-9, since F-10 and devel are being taken care of by armstrong. ~spot ___ Fedora-legal-list mailing list Fedora-legal-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legal-list
[Fedora-legal-list] Legality of staple / unstaple
staple / unstaple is an all-or-nothing data binder / unbinder, licensed under the BSD license. http://sysnet.ucsd.edu/projects/staple/ The author raises a concern that unstaple might be considered illegal due to its ability to brute-force the stapled file, and the FAQ listed some use cases involving misappropriation of intellectual property (the pirated file is combined with the author's own files, stapled together, and attempts to unstaple this collection arguably violates the DMCA). In view of this, staple is shipped separately from unstaple. Would either, or both, be acceptable in Fedora? Could we get staple in Fedora and unstaple in some non-US repositories? This software has been discussed on Bruce Schneier's blog: http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/03/all-or-nothing.html#comments Thanks, -- miʃel salim • http://hircus.jaiku.com/ IUCS • msa...@cs.indiana.edu Fedora • sali...@fedoraproject.org MacPorts • hir...@macports.org ___ Fedora-legal-list mailing list Fedora-legal-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legal-list
[Fedora-legal-list] enabling CUDA support
Hi all, I've following bugreport from a BOINC user: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487981 Basically, CUDA is a Nvidia technology which enables the GPU to be used for various complex scientific computations (which are then even faster than on CPU). I was about to close the bug as WONTFIX as the whole CUDA is not open source, but then I found out that BOINC (which recently added support for CUDA applications) needs only the single libcudart.so library and that this prebuilt library coming from Nvidia has been already included in the source tarball (but not packaged as far). Now I have a question: as it principally enables the hardware to be controlled by some end-user applications, would it be possible to ship the libcudart.so library in a subpackage as Redistributable, no modification permitted like a firmware? Actually this is what the Nvidia's EULA is saying about the Linux part of CUDA: http://developer.download.nvidia.com/compute/cuda/2_1/toolkit/CUDA_Toolkit_EULA_081215.pdf (see section 2.1.3) Although I guess we can't do it in this way (I'm afraid that same arguments could then be used for e.g. all closed-source modules), I rather ask before definitely closing the bugreport. Regards, Milos ___ Fedora-legal-list mailing list Fedora-legal-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legal-list
Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Do we need to remove proprietary code from previous releases?
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Tom spot Callaway wrote: On 03/05/2009 02:36 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: Recently I took over the orphaned package libzzub in F-10 and devel. I found that the upstream renamed the package to armstrong, so I opened a review request for armstrong and it just got approved. But whenever I was packaging armstrong, I found that the source tarball contains some MS propriatary code. This code does not get compiled into the final binary RPM but I removed it from the tarball when I created the SRPM. libzzub is now going through the PackageEndOfLife process and will be removed from F-10 and devel soon. The thing is, the old package libzzub that is in F-7, F-8 and F-9 still has this code in the SRPM. How shall we proceed in this case? Push updates for any non EOL branches without the proprietary gunk. In this case, F-9, since F-10 and devel are being taken care of by armstrong. ~spot Done. Orcan ___ Fedora-legal-list mailing list Fedora-legal-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legal-list
Re: FC10, Virtualization , Windows XP
On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 12:54:47AM +, M A Young wrote: But they aren't all as slow as vmware, nor is hardware virtualization required for a faster solution, for example Xen does very well without needing hardware support. Xen can't virtualize Windows without hardware support. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Emerging Technologies, Red Hat http://et.redhat.com/~rjones virt-top is 'top' for virtual machines. Tiny program with many powerful monitoring features, net stats, disk stats, logging, etc. http://et.redhat.com/~rjones/virt-top -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: FC10, Virtualization , Windows XP
On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 07:09:04PM -0500, Jim wrote: FC 10/KDE what is the best Virtualization program for FC10, to run Windows XP in. I understand because my AMD Athlon doesn't have a svm feature I can't run KVM, and VM Ware is slow ? There's no good solution. You will be able to run qemu, in software emulation mode. Depending on how fast your processor is, and how CPU intensive your Windows session is, it'll be either acceptably slow or very slow indeed. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Emerging Technologies, Red Hat http://et.redhat.com/~rjones virt-p2v converts physical machines to virtual machines. Boot with a live CD or over the network (PXE) and turn machines into Xen guests. http://et.redhat.com/~rjones/virt-p2v -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Dual monitors KDE 4.2 - no panel, no keyboard focus
On Wednesday 04 March 2009 12:51:58 Michael Eager wrote: Hi -- I have dual monitors using Nvidia Twinview. I have both displays working. The primary display has the panel, plasmoids, etc. It seems to work OK. The secondary display only shows wallpaper. Mouse clicks on the screen are ignored. I can start a program on the second display by running a command in the primary display: DISPLAY=:0.1 konsole but this screen does not take keyboard focus. Doing the same with konqueror, the mouse works, but again the keyboard is inactive. Neither of these windows has taskbars at the top, so they cannot be moved. Running GNOME, the dual display works OK, with both screens active. i'm trying to kick the nvidia habit on my desktops, so i'm using nouveau, but the simplest xorg.conf i have is: Section ServerLayout Identifier Default Layout Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier DVI-I-0 Option LeftOf VGA-0 Option PreferredMode 1680x1050 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier VGA-0 Option PreferredMode 1280x1024 EndSection Section Device Identifier Device0 Driver nouveau EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Device0 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection Section Extensions Option Composite Disable EndSection And it works like a charm and givesme two separate workspaces in KDE. -A -- Anthony - http://messinet.com - http://messinet.com/~amessina/gallery 8F89 5E72 8DF0 BCF0 10BE 9967 92DC 35DC B001 4A4E signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
xrander and big screen
Hello guys, I have laptop with ATI radeon. I am using fglrx drivers from rpmfusion, which claims to support xrandr. My laptop has 1440x900 , My LCD attached via DVI has 1280x1204. I am trying to use dual sceen with big desktop. Yes I can achieve it via display config, or with xrandr switches via console. The main problem is , that X server treates that as a one big desktop screen. When I resize window on full deskop, it is resized over 2 displays. This is not wanted scenario of couse. I want to behave as usual - resize to the actuall display, not both. Please help PS : this works normal when using open source driver, but I need 3D for development in OpenGL. My card is Radeon HD2400, unsupported 3D by opensource driver. Thanks in advance, David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re:rythmbox not seeing cdrom
fedora-list-requ...@redhat.com wrote: 3. Re: rythmbox not seeing cdrom (Kevin Kofler) Message: 2 Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 01:55:25 +0100 From: Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at Subject: Re:rythmbox not seeing cdrom To: fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: gokjht$m8...@ger.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii DB wrote: Yup, I have the same problem with Amarok - it did play one CD for me last week when I first installed it, but now all it finds is a couple of clips (that I didn't know I'd made) which it calls my local collection. (and identifies them as something totally unrelated to the actual music.) What version of Amarok? Amarok 2 does not support CDs at this time. Yes, Amarok 2 - which doesn't appear to want to make any noise from Streaming broadcasts, but that is another problem for another day! Kevin Kofler -- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 01:56:22 +0100 From: Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at Subject: Re: rythmbox not seeing cdrom To: fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: gokjjm$m8...@ger.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii DB wrote: Curiouser curiouser... Kaffeine sees plays CDs in the master drive, but not in the slave... If you use a CD drive other than the default, you have to give Kaffeine its device name in the advanced xine parameters. I've looked in there, but all that is listed is /dev/cdrom. If I look in /dev, there is a cdrom1 device, but putting /dev/cdrom1 into the audio cd box doesn't appear to change anything. Kevin Kofler Thanks, Kevin Dave -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to re-lock ssh private key?
Gordon Messmer wrote: I believe the documentation wasn't written because services were intended to be identical to ssh-agent. The problem is that it is configured in very different ways than ssh-agent. So it requires it's own documentation. And further, the services are a long way from identical. :) The ssh-add tool can still be used to add and remove identities, and has its own man page. Sure, and I find that many of the things documented to work in the ssh-add manpage do not work with the ssh agent provided by gnome keyring. Are you able to remove identities from the gnome provided agent? I am not. Not with the -d or -D switch. $ ssh-add -l 1024 61:34:65:0b:eb:cb:2b:83:cf:e2:3d:e9:9f:2f:c5:d3 id_dsa (DSA) 2048 27:c0:40:7c:f2:e5:4b:20:23:6b:19:2a:af:11:e7:6c id_rsa (RSA) $ ssh-add -D All identities removed. $ ssh-add -l 1024 61:34:65:0b:eb:cb:2b:83:cf:e2:3d:e9:9f:2f:c5:d3 id_dsa (DSA) 2048 27:c0:40:7c:f2:e5:4b:20:23:6b:19:2a:af:11:e7:6c id_rsa (RSA) Same for the -t option to have an identity expire, as well as the -x option to lock the agent. In the case of the -x option, ssh-add prompts for a password to lock the agent and then reports Agent locked. Yet the keys continue to be usable to login to remote systems. Unless I'm doing something very wrong (which is always a possible), the gnome provided ssh agent is lacking a great many ways. Perhaps worst of all, I have been unable to disable the gnome ssh agent using the methods at http://live.gnome.org/GnomeKeyring/Ssh . So what little documentation there is appears to be inaccurate. :( -- ToddOpenPGP - KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Hell is paved with good samaritans. -- William M. Holden pgpoGz04jSbEe.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to re-lock ssh private key?
I wrote: Are you able to remove identities from the gnome provided agent? I am not. Not with the -d or -D switch. $ ssh-add -l 1024 61:34:65:0b:eb:cb:2b:83:cf:e2:3d:e9:9f:2f:c5:d3 id_dsa (DSA) 2048 27:c0:40:7c:f2:e5:4b:20:23:6b:19:2a:af:11:e7:6c id_rsa (RSA) $ ssh-add -D All identities removed. $ ssh-add -l 1024 61:34:65:0b:eb:cb:2b:83:cf:e2:3d:e9:9f:2f:c5:d3 id_dsa (DSA) 2048 27:c0:40:7c:f2:e5:4b:20:23:6b:19:2a:af:11:e7:6c id_rsa (RSA) And to be clear, I am able to use these keys without any new passphrase prompting. -- ToddOpenPGP - KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Annoy government spooks, encrypt all your trivial email pgppsyf0OuojP.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Text editor won't let me edit conf files. How do I?
Kevin Kofler wrote: Rangeen Basu wrote: you can also use this command: su -c 'gedit /etc/your_file.conf' Password: Using su with GUI apps can lead to X11 sockets and the like getting wrong permissions and screwing up that user's configuration. YMMV. Kevin Kofler hence my total confusion as to why fedora no longer ships gksu?? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Text editor won't let me edit conf files. How do I?
phil wrote: Kevin Kofler wrote: Rangeen Basu wrote: you can also use this command: su -c 'gedit /etc/your_file.conf' Password: Using su with GUI apps can lead to X11 sockets and the like getting wrong permissions and screwing up that user's configuration. YMMV. Kevin Kofler hence my total confusion as to why fedora no longer ships gksu?? Fedora has never shipped gksu ever. Applications in Fedora uses either consolehelper or policykit. You might try beesu instead. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Something is Fishy About My Network
Marc Ferguson wrote:
So here's the meat of my cry-for-help caserole.
- I'm having a problem pinging my hostname. I'll ping it and 127.0.0.1
is the resulting IP.
- I see that my router has given my computer an IP address, but it
doesn't have the hostname in its table.
- I can't ping, by host name, my computer from any other computer on
the
home network.
You can set the name of your computer in /etc/sysconfig/network ; mine reads
NETWORKING=yes
HOSTNAME=mary.gayleard.com
Also check /etc/hosts on all the computers in your network.
ifconfig will tell you what IP address has been assigned to your machine
by dhcpd;
you can probably change this by editing /etc/dhcpd.conf on the machine
acting as dhcpd server, eg I have
host elizabeth {
hardware ethernet 00:02:2D:21:03:E7;
fixed-address 192.168.2.11;
}
--
Timothy Murphy
e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net
tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
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Re: Text editor won't let me edit conf files. How do I?
Rahul Sundaram wrote: phil wrote: Kevin Kofler wrote: Rangeen Basu wrote: you can also use this command: su -c 'gedit /etc/your_file.conf' Password: Using su with GUI apps can lead to X11 sockets and the like getting wrong permissions and screwing up that user's configuration. YMMV. Kevin Kofler hence my total confusion as to why fedora no longer ships gksu?? Fedora has never shipped gksu ever. Applications in Fedora uses either consolehelper or policykit. You might try beesu instead. Rahul yep seems like my memory is starting to fail, i was remembering my debian days, pity i can't stick some new ram in my head to replace the broken bits lol -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
suddenly a wifi problem stops F10 to complete startup
Hi, everything was runnning fine - until yesterday night when I got this error message, once the white progress bar of F10 has finished and the screen usually goes black again ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready iwlagn :06:00.0 PCI INT A - GSI 17 (level, low) - IRQ 17 firmware : requesting iwlwifi-5000-1.ucode Registered led device : iwl-phy0:radio Registered led device : iwl-phy0:assoc Registered led device : iwl-phy0:RX Registered led device : iwl-phy0:TX ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wlan: link becomes ready and there it sits... I believe I have seen the first 3 lines flashing very shortly usually during startup. I do not how to fix this. I also don't get it why the OS should stop booting there. Jurgen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Automounting Windows Partitions
On my F10 box, it automatically mounts my Windows partitions as well. I would like to change it, so that one of the partitions isn't mounted at all, and the other is only in read only. I thought this was set in the fstab file, but I can't see it. Where can I change the automount settings. Cheers -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Automounting Windows Partitions
On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 22:02 +1000, Craig Preston wrote: On my F10 box, it automatically mounts my Windows partitions as well. I would like to change it, so that one of the partitions isn't mounted at all, and the other is only in read only. I thought this was set in the fstab file, but I can't see it. Where can I change the automount settings. I haven't tried Fedora 10 yet, but in Fedora 9: There's an authorisations (personal system) preferences in Gnome which can diddle whether partitions will be added without you typing in a password again (e.g. it can be a once off, then it's always auto mounted, it can require a password every time it's mounted, etc.). And, if you want something mounted read-only, all the time, you can add an entry to the fstab file for it. Then, the auto-mounter won't do anything with it. Syntax: /dev /mountpoint fileysystemtype options e.g. /dev/sdb3 /mnt/windows fat32 ro Change the parameters to suit your own situation. See the man files for mount and fstab, at least. Tip: Don't put manually mounted partitions inside /media. That's where the auto-mounter does its tricks, and you might pick a fight with it. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.15-78.2.23.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Automounting Windows Partitions
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Craig Preston duffma...@gmail.com wrote: On my F10 box, it automatically mounts my Windows partitions as well. I would like to change it, so that one of the partitions isn't mounted at all, and the other is only in read only. I thought this was set in the fstab file, but I can't see it. Where can I change the automount settings. Cheers ntfs-config may help. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/ntfs-config. PS: Requires ntfs-3g Uncheck 'Automount Extrenal Drives (ie do not auto-mount external USB drives using this) -- Registered Linux User # 483705 @ http://counter.li.org/ (openSUSE 11.1, i686) Smolts Profile: http://www.smolts.org/client/show/?uuid=pub_b541a450-9bc1-45fd-beab-d46ee43a0108 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: shrinking reiserfs partitions, filesystems
Chris Tyler wrote: If it's not an essential-to-the-system filesystem (e.g., /data or something) you can unmount it and resize it Do not forget another option: copy everything somewhere else (external USB drive or something...), destroy the partition, recreate it smaller, format and copy back. In this way you get an implicit perfect defrag of your data, which could be more or less useful, depending on the current fragmentation of your filesystem. If your data is only 16GB, it will not take too much time and it's a method which contains a backup operation inside :-) Actually, with two disks, it could be even faster than in place resizing. Best regards. -- Roberto Ragusamail at robertoragusa.it -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Setting up a home wireless server.
James Allsopp wrote: hi, I'm setting up a wireless access point and I've got the laptop to connect to the server, and dhcp working, but I can't get the firewall to forward packets to the outside wall. I've seen some people setting up a bridging device, but before I've done it using iptables. Is one of these methods better, deprecated or just different? I'm using the iptables script described here; http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/iptables-tutorial.html#INCLUDERCFIREWALL the forward part is here $IPTABLES -A FORWARD -i $LAN_IFACE -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A FORWARD -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o $INET_IFACE -j SNAT --to-source $INET_IP But there doesn't seem to be anything to redirect the return packets or to tell it which interface the outbound packets should be on. It says in the tutorial masquerade should be avoided due to the extra CPU, any comments? Thanks, Jim Honestly, I've never used IPtables for that, I've always made my server just act like a router and input static routes between wireless and wired networks. But then maybe my case is special, I route all my wireless packets through my server (and squid) so that I can filter what my kids get to on the internet. -- Frustra laborant quotquot se calculationibus fatigant pro inventione quadraturae circuli Mark Haney Sr. Systems Administrator ERC Broadband (828) 350-2415 Call (866) ERC-7110 for after hours support -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Perl modules --- Fedora RPMs (Test::More)
2009/3/4 Geoffrey Leach ge...@hughes.net: On 03/04/2009 11:12:33 AM, Dave Cross wrote: 2009/3/4 Reber, Simon simon.re...@roche.com: I suggest to download the tar.gz package from http://www.cpan.de and install it using: perl Makefile.PL make make install Firstly, if you're going to point someone at CPAN then please use the canonical URL (http://www.cpan.org/) rather than a national mirror. Secondly, mixing RPM-installed modules and CPAN-installed modules in the same Perl installation is a recipe for disaster. I strongly recommend avoiding it whenever possible. Actually, that's not the case. Here's what I do. YMMV. Install _minimal_ Perl as rpms. That's just perl and whatever comes with it on yum install. Then get the CPAN rpm, and whatever comes with it. After this, use cpan to install whatever you need. The cli interface is simple and easy to use. The value of this is that if you install (rather than upgrade) new Fedora distos, your cpan-installed modules are not affected, always assuming that /usr/local is a separate file system. Yeah, I worked like that for years. But my Perl installations always gradually deteriorated. Once I switched to RPM-only installations (and learnt how to make RPMs of CPAN modules that weren't in the repositories) my life became much happier. See http://www.slideshare.net/davorg/perl-in-rpmland-presentation for more details. And http://rpm.mag-sol.com/ for my repository of RPMs of CPAN modules. Cheers, Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Something is Fishy About My Network
Kevin J. Cummings wrote: Suggestion #2 (if you are up to it): Disable DHCP serving in your router and setup a DHCP server on a Linux machine. You can set up the dchp.conf file to do everything your touter is doing. If this machine is also running DNS, there are some ways to get them to talk to each other so that DNS knows the names of machines served by the DHCP server. This is not trivial, and requires in depth knowledge of both protocols to get to work right. Possibly including depricated configuration options. I think you're overstating the complexity of this. It shouldn't be that hard for him to get it working with dnsmasq. Also, what aspect of the configuration do you think is deprecated? Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Something is Fishy About My Network
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Matthew Flaschen matthew.flasc...@gatech.edu wrote: Kevin J. Cummings wrote: Suggestion #2 (if you are up to it): Disable DHCP serving in your router and setup a DHCP server on a Linux machine. You can set up the dchp.conf file to do everything your touter is doing. If this machine is also running DNS, there are some ways to get them to talk to each other so that DNS knows the names of machines served by the DHCP server. This is not trivial, and requires in depth knowledge of both protocols to get to work right. Possibly including depricated configuration options. I think you're overstating the complexity of this. It shouldn't be that hard for him to get it working with dnsmasq. Also, what aspect of the configuration do you think is deprecated? Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Thank you all for your feedback. I'll try these things out and reply with more details when I get home. -- Marc F. www.fergytech.com Registered Linux User: #410978 When life gives me lemons... I make Linuxaide, hmm good stuff! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to re-lock ssh private key?
Gordon Messmer yiny...@eburg.com writes: Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Another thing that appears not to work with the gnome version of the ssh-agent is ssh-add -d or ssh-add -D. Not good. I think you're confused by the fact that the identities are still listed by ssh-add -l. They're certainly deactivated and require a passphrase in order to be used again (tested in GNOME 2.24). No, I'm confused by the fact that I can still ssh to remote machines without entering my key-unlocking passphrase. ;-) $ ssh-add -D All identities removed. $ ssh localhost Last login: Thu Mar 5 07:03:01 2009 from localhost $ -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht http://www.full-steam.org/ (ipv6-only) You may need to config 6to4 to see the above pages. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Apparent total loss of all Raid 1 data from both drives`
HELP! system: motherboard = ASUS P5Q with INTEL 64 bit core 2 processor. memory = 8 gig Drives in Raid 1 array = 2 Seagate 500 Gb 7200 RPM (Personal Data) Linux = Fedora 10-64 System has been operating flawlessly for 4 Months. Raid disks have (had) 2 years of important personal data plus several Virtual Box virtual systems. While operating normally I was having some access problems so I ran Selinux Manager to review information then exited. About an hour later I again ran Selinux Manager and the gui screen frame work came up but the data panels were empty and none of the controls were functioning. My first thought ended up totally wrong, I rebooted. After the Mushroom cloud cleared F10 would not complete bootup and produced long lists of similar errors. ERGO 2 years of data (both drives) appear to be blank. This situation brings up the pit of the stomach feeling that I do not have a tool of any kind which will allow me to do my magic of trouble shooting. Since the system will not complete booting. Any help would be very much appreciated. I have reloaded F10 (on the boot drive) but both drives from the original Raid 1 still appear to be totally empty. It is paradoxical how much the total loss of years of work and data teaches about better backup functionality. Thanks for the help. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Perl modules --- Fedora RPMs (Test::More)
Hi rpm -ql perl-Test-Simple-0.62-30.fc8.x86_64 ... /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/Test/More.pm /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/Test/Simple.pm ... the problem is that I can't found perl-Test- Simple src rpm spec of which should have something like Provides: perl-Test-More = 062-30.fc8 There are many spec having BuildRequire perl(Test::More) --Nick Zhokhov Dave Cross wrote: 2009/3/4 Stanisław T. Findeisen sf181...@students.mimuw.edu.pl: How can I know which RPM in Fedora release contains which Perl modules? In particular I want to install Test::More, but don't know where to look for that. :-/ I usually go and search for the module at http://search.cpan.org/. That'll tell you which CPAN distribution contains the module. Then it's just a case of translating the CPAN distribution name to an RPM name. For example, Test::More is included in the Test-Simple distribution. The RPM name is therefore perl-Test-Simple. Dave... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10: system-config-services - hangs?
Sam Varshavchik wrote: Daniel B. Thurman writes: For some reason or another, I cannot seem to get system-config-services to work. It chugs along with the greyed-out (inaccessable) list and then simply hangs. Killing this app leaves a process around unless killed. Works fine with F9, but avoiding certain services that causes hangs but I am not sure what services on F10 would hang this app. Has this worked for anyone else or is there some services I need to be aware of that are known to cause hangs of the system-config-services? system-config-services works for me. It does take quite a few seconds to come up and plow through the list. When it's hanging, attach strace to it and see what the process is doing. I did a strace pid attachment, nothing interesting revealed, until I moved the mouse around on the GUI and all I got was screen activity data. Killing SCS revealed nothing relevant. I started SCS under strace and gawd, just too much data, especially the polling data, that throws much confusion into the mix. Seems I will have to do brute-force, one-by-one services removal to see which one is the offending service to SCS. Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Apparent total loss of all Raid 1 data from both drives`
On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 10:26:57 -0500, Robert Karge rkargeconsult...@gmail.com wrote: Any help would be very much appreciated. I have reloaded F10 (on the boot drive) but both drives from the original Raid 1 still appear to be totally empty. It is paradoxical how much the total loss of years of work and data teaches about better backup functionality. It is unlikely that you have really lost all of the data based on what you said you did. You do want to be careful about what you do now so that you don't make things worse while trying to fix things. The rescue disk suggestion is probably the way to start. If you are going to try to do something dangerous, you may want to consider pulling one of the disks. This has its own set of risks though and you would want to make sure if you got things back, that you back stuff up before trying to add the disk back into the raid array. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Computer host name
Hi, I've deactivated NetworkManager as it was interfering with my wireless networking, but since then my computer has been renamed to ip-address-bethere.co.uk, instead of localhost.localdomain. I've looked at /etc/hosts /etc/sysconfig/network and these are all set up as localhost.localdomain and the network card facing the internet is set up statically. Anyone have any ideas how to stop this happening? James -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Apparent total loss of all Raid 1 data from both drives`
Mogens, Thank you for the quick response. 1. Software raid 2. The problem of boot not completing and apparently looping through an error path was a function of the boot drive only. The error was that some function was running to fast and was being retried over and over. The boot process,when started, proceeded through the locating and loading of the LVM setup. The failure begain right after that. 3. Yes, however at the time I didn't fully understand how to use it. I just tried it out and, sorrowfully, will be able to use it next time. 4. My system has 1 500Gb SATA drive for boot and Linux basic directories. My personal information is located on two 500Gb SATA drives in a Raid 1 array. Using the F10 dist install disk I selected only the boot disk and reloaded F10. Then reconstructed the Raid 1 array, which I have done successfully several times, and then added the two Raid drives back to the array. They then equalized, which appeared normal, this took several hours. When that finished I checked for data/directories and there was nothing. By nothing I mean no directories, no folders, no data. All though F10 detected that they were Raid formatted (ext2). So my only disaster is the seeming loss of some very important stuff. I've been a software/systems designer for a long time so even that shall pass. I hope this helps. Again thanks for you help. Bob Karge On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Mogens Kjaer m...@crc.dk wrote: Robert Karge wrote: ... After the Mushroom cloud cleared F10 would not complete bootup and produced long lists of similar errors. ERGO 2 years of data (both drives) appear to be blank. ... A few questions: Is it hardware or software RAID? How is your disk setup? I.e., what do you mean by reloading F10 on the boot drive? Can you boot from the installation CD/DVD in rescue mode? How do you see that the data drives are blank? Mogens -- Mogens Kjaer, Carlsberg A/S, Computer Department Gamle Carlsberg Vej 10, DK-2500 Valby, Denmark Phone: +45 33 27 53 25, Mobile: +45 22 12 53 25 Email: m...@crc.dk Homepage: http://www.crc.dk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Apparent total loss of all Raid 1 data from both drives`
Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 10:26:57 -0500, Robert Karge rkargeconsult...@gmail.com wrote: Any help would be very much appreciated. I have reloaded F10 (on the boot drive) but both drives from the original Raid 1 still appear to be totally empty. It is paradoxical how much the total loss of years of work and data teaches about better backup functionality. It is unlikely that you have really lost all of the data based on what you said you did. You do want to be careful about what you do now so that you don't make things worse while trying to fix things. The rescue disk suggestion is probably the way to start. If you are going to try to do something dangerous, you may want to consider pulling one of the disks. This has its own set of risks though and you would want to make sure if you got things back, that you back stuff up before trying to add the disk back into the raid array. I will agree with this. statement. With a 500GB drive, I would use this as a work disk. I would do an install that doesn't look at the RAID drives. I would actually disconnect them. Now you said that you rebuilt the RAID. After to did a rebuild, did you have the same LVM settings? I ask this because I had a real nightmare with LVM and a RAID 1 some time ago. I refuse to use LVM now. How much data is on the rebuilt array? What does df give you? If worse comes to worse, you can use forensic tools to scan your drives for data. I had to do this with my problem. I put the one drive into a USB port and mounted it read only to scan the drive. The worse thing you can do is panic and rush. It took me almost a week to recover some data after I forgot to back it up when I did a full system redesign and rebuild. Good luck. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Resolved: kmod-nvidia is missing for kernel 2.6.27.19-170.2.35.fc10
Linuxguy123 wrote: The kmod-nvidia package for kernel 2.6.27.19-170.2.35.fc10 mysteriously showed up on my update list this morning. I have no idea why it took this long to appear. I didn't make any changes to my system. Whatever happened, this problem is resolved. Your mirrors probably just got it. It is well over a week old now (24\ February), so it appears the mirror your machine was choosing was exceptionally slow in syncing up. Not much you can do about that except bring it to the attention of the sysop of the mirror site you used. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ri...@nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - The problem with being poor is that it takes up all of your time - -- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Apparent total loss of all Raid 1 data from both drives`
Robert Karge wrote: ... When that finished I checked for data/directories and there was nothing. By nothing I mean no directories, no folders, no data. All though F10 detected that they were Raid formatted (ext2). ... What does fdisk -l say on the two drives? Mogens -- Mogens Kjaer, Carlsberg A/S, Computer Department Gamle Carlsberg Vej 10, DK-2500 Valby, Denmark Phone: +45 33 27 53 25, Fax: +45 33 27 47 08 Email: m...@crc.dk Homepage: http://www.crc.dk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Dual boot WinXP repair (maybe a little OT)
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Matthew Saltzman m...@clemson.edu wrote: snip I'm thinking of jiggering the partitions to put WinXP first again and /boot second. I know how to fix the Linux side when I do that, so maybe putting WinXP back will help. I'd rather not re-install because I installed a bunch of stuff on Win before I did this, so it would be annoying (not to say awful) to have to do that all over again. Why not use Gparted to moved partitions around? You wouldn't have to reinstall. Also, how about creating a image of the WinXP partition so you can recover anytime? Store the image in some external media. Look here for partimage and other utilities: http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page ~af -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Something is Fishy About My Network
Matthew Flaschen wrote: Kevin J. Cummings wrote: Suggestion #2 (if you are up to it): Disable DHCP serving in your router and setup a DHCP server on a Linux machine. You can set up the dchp.conf file to do everything your touter is doing. If this machine is also running DNS, there are some ways to get them to talk to each other so that DNS knows the names of machines served by the DHCP server. This is not trivial, and requires in depth knowledge of both protocols to get to work right. Possibly including depricated configuration options. I think you're overstating the complexity of this. It shouldn't be that hard for him to get it working with dnsmasq. Also, what aspect of the configuration do you think is deprecated? The Linux DHCP server no longer has the right hooks to fix up BIN directly. It needs another tool to help out. The old way of doing that is no longer supported and is deprecated. At least according to the documentation the last time I read it (about 5 years ago). Matt Flaschen -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Text editor won't let me edit conf files. How do I?
you can also use this command: su -c 'gedit /etc/your_file.conf' Password: Using su with GUI apps can lead to X11 sockets and the like getting wrong permissions and screwing up that user's configuration. YMMV. hence my total confusion as to why fedora no longer ships gksu?? I use kdesu to start programs as root. But I don't know if it's safer than other methods or anything like that. But it has worked for me for a while. Rocco -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to re-lock ssh private key?
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Gordon Messmer yiny...@eburg.com writes: Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Another thing that appears not to work with the gnome version of the ssh-agent is ssh-add -d or ssh-add -D. Not good. I think you're confused by the fact that the identities are still listed by ssh-add -l. They're certainly deactivated and require a passphrase in order to be used again (tested in GNOME 2.24). No, I'm confused by the fact that I can still ssh to remote machines without entering my key-unlocking passphrase. ;-) $ ssh-add -D All identities removed. $ ssh localhost Last login: Thu Mar 5 07:03:01 2009 from localhost $ Right, this is clearly a gnome-keyring bug. There are a good number of them it seems. Not honoring -c or -t is: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/525574 Inability to disable it is: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/558181 The latter is fixed upstream, but only in the gnome-2.25 branch. I don't know if anyone intends to backport the fix to the current stable branch so F-10 can be updated. The changes don't apply cleanly, so it'd take a little bit of work to sort out. -- ToddOpenPGP - KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ The most important single central fact about a free market is that no exchange takes place unless both parties benefit. -- Milton Friedman pgpopQftuzhpw.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F9 x86_64 - Fritz! WLAN USB - ndiswrapper problem
Hi, I cannot get my Fritz! WLAN USB adapter recognized/installed and therefore WLAN not working with my Fedora 9 x86_64 machine. Can somebody please tell me where/how I can get/install ndiswrapper? I suppose i need to add a repository resource to get 'yum install ndiswrapper' to work.? Or does anybody know of another, maybe better, solution? thanks, Robert -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Computer host name
Rick Stevens ri...@nerd.com wrote: James Allsopp wrote: Hi, I've deactivated NetworkManager as it was interfering with my wireless networking, but since then my computer has been renamed to ip-address-bethere.co.uk, instead of localhost.localdomain. I've looked at /etc/hosts /etc/sysconfig/network and these are all set up as localhost.localdomain and the network card facing the internet is set up statically. Anyone have any ideas how to stop this happening? If you are running a DHCP client (and it looks like you are), the DHCP server you're using gave your machine a host name. That's pretty normal. I don't think that this is true. At least not if you're running dhcp-4.0.0 as I am on my F9 system. $ rpm -qa | grep dhclient dhclient-4.0.0-22.fc9.x86_64 I had thought the same thing but I recently spent some time sifting through the code to try to find where the host name is set. What I found is that it's not set by dhclient at all. It is set in the script /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-post by the ipcalc command which is passed the IP address that the DHCP server gives your machine. Essentially this is a DNS lookup. If you know otherwise or if this is not always true, I'd be interested to hear about it. My guess is that your ISP is bethere.co.uk, therefore they gave you a hostname that reflects the IP address they gave you. That's good, generally, because that means they're probably maintaining a reverse DNS entry for your IP address that points at you. You can ignore the host name the DHCP server gives you by editing the DHCP client config on your machine and adding supercede host-name localhost.localdomain; to the lease clause. See man dhclient.conf and man dhcp-options. You can also put send host-name my_host_name; in the dhclient.conf file or add DHCP_HOSTNAME=my_host_name to /etc/sysconfig/network Steve -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Something is Fishy About My Network
On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 13:02 -0500, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: The Linux DHCP server no longer has the right hooks to fix up BIN BIND? (Just in case you're referring to something else that I haven't guessed at.) directly. It needs another tool to help out. The old way of doing that is no longer supported and is deprecated. At least according to the documentation the last time I read it (about 5 years ago). If you mean the DHCP server needs special configuration to update DNS server records, the previous scheme of allowing clients to do that, based on what they're address supposedly is, then yes that's out of date. Since then, the methodology was to use a shared secrets keyfile (/etc/rndc.key). It's not too hard to integrate the BIND name server with the DHCP server Fedora's using, and the skills learnt in doing so are useful for other things. But I think the ease of using dnsmasq is supposed to be that much of that nitty-gritty work is taken care of already. It might depend on what else you want to do, DNS- and DHCP-wise. You can pull rabbits out of hats the hard way, I don't know what the limitations of using dnsmasq might be. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.15-78.2.23.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: FC10: Gnome/X focus broken after last update
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:44:39 +0100, Marco wrote: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libgxim-0.3.2-4.fc10 Unfortunately, the problem was not solved. Consider leaving feedback at the page linked above. Even if you don't have a Fedora account, you can add a comment. I'm also test-driving this new libgxim currently. I reverted to the bad libgxim, went to run-level 3 and returned to 5 to get a broken xterm. Then I've upgraded to above pkg, init 3 and init 5 once more, and it runs fine so far. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines I've tried the link above but after clicking on Add comment button I get the message: --- [snip] --- 500 Internal error The server encountered an unexpected condition which prevented it from fulfilling the request. Powered by CherryPy 2.3.0 --- [/snip] --- The URL is: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/captcha_comment Anyway, I continue to have problems with focus. Honestly, I don't know if those are caused by libgxim are by other updated packages I've re-updated to libgxim 0.3.2-4 (this time donwloaded with yum update) but the problem still persists, not only for xterm bu also for FireFox, nautilus, gnome-panel. For instance, just now, after having clicked on a HTML link on FireFox the focus frozen, that is_ * the mouse cursor remained the one used by FireFox when you move over an HTML link, * even clicking on other FireFox tabs or on the gnome menu, I was not able to do anything: each window seemed disabled * for make it working I switched on another virtual desktop (ctrl+alt+left_arrow) and then returned back to the virtual desktop (ctrl+alt+right_arrow) where FireFox was open. Any idea? Thank you so much! Cheers, -- Marco -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Computer host name
On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 14:22 -0500, Steve wrote: I had thought the same thing but I recently spent some time sifting through the code to try to find where the host name is set. What I found is that it's not set by dhclient at all. It is set in the script /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-post by the ipcalc command which is passed the IP address that the DHCP server gives your machine. Essentially this is a DNS lookup. In both directions... DHCP server says here's your IP, or the box has a static IP set into it. That IP resolves to this name. Checking that name resolves to the same IP. I am /that/ name. That's how Linux (and some services running on the box) works out what its name is, in the absence of it being fixed some other way (e.g. the user setting a hostname in a configuration file, regardless of what IP address it gets, even if that causes problems by using something that doesn't resolve, or resolves wrongly). If you know otherwise or if this is not always true, I'd be interested to hear about it. DHCP clients can tell the DCHP server the name it wants, and DHCP servers can tell the clients what name it wants them to use. Neither of them has to obey. If you want to fix a name to a box that travels, it's a good idea to configure the DHCP client to ask for it. It might help. But no well set up server is going to let a client name itself in a manner would harm a network - such as a rogue box being attached that insists it's the name server (this being a good admin issue versus bad admin, people-wise). On a dynamically configured network, the best approach is centrally control names and addresses via your DHCP and DNS servers, and have your clients obey. You only have one thing to adjust - your server. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.15-78.2.23.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Something is Fishy About My Network
Tim wrote: On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 13:02 -0500, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: The Linux DHCP server no longer has the right hooks to fix up BIN BIND? (Just in case you're referring to something else that I haven't guessed at.) Yes, my keyboard and my fingers don't always agree on what I want to type. directly. It needs another tool to help out. The old way of doing that is no longer supported and is deprecated. At least according to the documentation the last time I read it (about 5 years ago). If you mean the DHCP server needs special configuration to update DNS server records, the previous scheme of allowing clients to do that, based on what they're address supposedly is, then yes that's out of date. Since then, the methodology was to use a shared secrets keyfile (/etc/rndc.key). It's not too hard to integrate the BIND name server with the DHCP server Fedora's using, and the skills learnt in doing so are useful for other things. But I think the ease of using dnsmasq is supposed to be that much of that nitty-gritty work is taken care of already. It might depend on what else you want to do, DNS- and DHCP-wise. You can pull rabbits out of hats the hard way, I don't know what the limitations of using dnsmasq might be. Agreed. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Something is Fishy About My Network
Kevin J. Cummings wrote: I think you're overstating the complexity of this. It shouldn't be that hard for him to get it working with dnsmasq. Also, what aspect of the configuration do you think is deprecated? The Linux DHCP server no longer has the right hooks to fix up BIN directly. There is no single Linux DHCP server. ISC dhcpd (which I assume you're referring to) is not the only thing that can provide DHCP. As I said, dnsmasq is a good solution here because it's a single program that can provide integrated DHCP and DNS. It needs another tool to help out. Right, so don't use dhcpd at all. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [OT] Free download of Linux Fromat for 24 hours
Jake Peavy wrote: On 3/3/09, Steve Searle st...@stevesearle.com wrote: http://www.tuxradar.com/content/linux-format-free-download-24-hours-only Dammit! Missed it. Does anyone have a copy they can email me? The site says we can share with friends ;-) email are you aware that file is approx 130,919,531 bytes? -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look at* it. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [OT] Free download of Linux Fromat for 24 hours
On 3/5/09, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote: Jake Peavy wrote: On 3/3/09, Steve Searle st...@stevesearle.com wrote: http://www.tuxradar.com/content/linux-format-free-download-24-hours-only Dammit! Missed it. Does anyone have a copy they can email me? The site says we can share with friends ;-) email are you aware that file is approx 130,919,531 bytes? That had not occurred to us, Dude. Is it still being seeded? Does anyone have a tracker? -- -jp When I was a kid my favorite relative was Uncle Caveman. After school we'd all go play in his cave, and every once in a while he would eat one of us. It wasn't until later that I found out that Uncle Caveman was a bear. deepthoughtsbyjackhandey.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Eclipse Java Perspective
Hello, All, I am running F10 and installed via yum Java and Eclipse, including eclipse-jdk and java-1.6.0-openjdk-devel.i386. I can run Java and Eclipse, but there is no Java perspective in Eclipse. Am I missing a package? Thanks! Take care Oliver -- Oliver Ruebenacker, Computational Cell Biologist BioPAX Integration at Virtual Cell (http://vcell.org/biopax) Center for Cell Analysis and Modeling http://www.oliver.curiousworld.org -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Eclipse Java Perspective
On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 16:06 -0500, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:
Hello, All,
I am running F10 and installed via yum Java and Eclipse, including
eclipse-jdk and java-1.6.0-openjdk-devel.i386. I can run Java and
Eclipse, but there is no Java perspective in Eclipse. Am I missing a
package? Thanks!
By eclipse-jdk did you mean eclipse-jdt? There have been a few issues
with configurations in ~/.eclipse not getting cleaned up. Try mv
~/.eclipse{,.bak20090305} and start eclipse again and see if that helps.
Andrew
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Re: Eclipse Java Perspective
On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 16:06 -0500, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: Hello, All, I am running F10 and installed via yum Java and Eclipse, including eclipse-jdk and java-1.6.0-openjdk-devel.i386. I can run Java and Eclipse, but there is no Java perspective in Eclipse. Am I missing a package? Thanks! You need eclipse-jdt --Caitlyn -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Eclipse Java Perspective
Hello, Andrew, All,
Thanks, removing .eclipse helped!
Yes, I meant eclipse-jdt.
Take care
Oliver
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Andrew Overholt overh...@redhat.com wrote:
On Thu, 2009-03-05 at 16:06 -0500, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:
Hello, All,
I am running F10 and installed via yum Java and Eclipse, including
eclipse-jdk and java-1.6.0-openjdk-devel.i386. I can run Java and
Eclipse, but there is no Java perspective in Eclipse. Am I missing a
package? Thanks!
By eclipse-jdk did you mean eclipse-jdt? There have been a few issues
with configurations in ~/.eclipse not getting cleaned up. Try mv
~/.eclipse{,.bak20090305} and start eclipse again and see if that helps.
Andrew
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Re: Booting a gazillion linuxes?
Tom Horsley wrote: Of course I was also trying to make the primary system have a very robust grub installation, so I spent a lot of time reading about saved defaults and fallbacks in grub only to discover that fedora's grub merely ships that in the info file, but not in grub itself (sigh...) That's a bug in the docs. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [OT] Free download of Linux Fromat for 24 hours
On Thursday 05 March 2009 21:54, Jake Peavy wrote: On 3/5/09, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote: Jake Peavy wrote: On 3/3/09, Steve Searle st...@stevesearle.com wrote: http://www.tuxradar.com/content/linux-format-free-download-24-hours-only Dammit! Missed it. Does anyone have a copy they can email me? The site says we can share with friends ;-) email are you aware that file is approx 130,919,531 bytes? That had not occurred to us, Dude. Is it still being seeded? Does anyone have a tracker? Being a first time user of bittorrent, I'm not sure if this is what you want. Anyway, in Transmissions tracker tab, I have the URL below, which is prefixed by Tier 1. http://www.linuxformat.co.uk:6969/announce Up to a few hours ago, when I found out that my torrent download hadn't completed, there were many folks still seeding, and was able to complete the download. I've attached the .torrent file as well, as it's only 9.9KB. Nigel linux_format_116.torrent Description: application/bittorrent -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Apparent total loss of all Raid 1 data from both drives`
Part of my basic trouble shooting is to use fdisk. I however run the application and then use the various options. fdisk -l shows, on both drives, valid partition 1 with a type flag of 'fd' and text of Linux Raid autodetect Bob Karge On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Mogens Kjaer m...@crc.dk wrote: Robert Karge wrote: ... When that finished I checked for data/directories and there was nothing. By nothing I mean no directories, no folders, no data. All though F10 detected that they were Raid formatted (ext2). ... What does fdisk -l say on the two drives? Mogens -- Mogens Kjaer, Carlsberg A/S, Computer Department Gamle Carlsberg Vej 10, DK-2500 Valby, Denmark Phone: +45 33 27 53 25, Fax: +45 33 27 47 08 Email: m...@crc.dk Homepage: http://www.crc.dk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Computer host name
Steve wrote: Rick Stevens ri...@nerd.com wrote: James Allsopp wrote: Hi, I've deactivated NetworkManager as it was interfering with my wireless networking, but since then my computer has been renamed to ip-address-bethere.co.uk, instead of localhost.localdomain. I've looked at /etc/hosts /etc/sysconfig/network and these are all set up as localhost.localdomain and the network card facing the internet is set up statically. Anyone have any ideas how to stop this happening? If you are running a DHCP client (and it looks like you are), the DHCP server you're using gave your machine a host name. That's pretty normal. I don't think that this is true. At least not if you're running dhcp-4.0.0 as I am on my F9 system. $ rpm -qa | grep dhclient dhclient-4.0.0-22.fc9.x86_64 I had thought the same thing but I recently spent some time sifting through the code to try to find where the host name is set. What I found is that it's not set by dhclient at all. It is set in the script /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-post by the ipcalc command which is passed the IP address that the DHCP server gives your machine. Essentially this is a DNS lookup. If you know otherwise or if this is not always true, I'd be interested to hear about it. My guess is that your ISP is bethere.co.uk, therefore they gave you a hostname that reflects the IP address they gave you. That's good, generally, because that means they're probably maintaining a reverse DNS entry for your IP address that points at you. You can ignore the host name the DHCP server gives you by editing the DHCP client config on your machine and adding supercede host-name localhost.localdomain; to the lease clause. See man dhclient.conf and man dhcp-options. You can also put send host-name my_host_name; in the dhclient.conf file or add DHCP_HOSTNAME=my_host_name to /etc/sysconfig/network I put this entry in my /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 (or eth1 or whatever) that also has the line: NM-CONTROLLED=no -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Apparent total loss of all Raid 1 data from both drives`
Robin, Thanks for the reply. The rebuilt array, MD0, df shows only 1% used. These disks are not included in LVM. Bob Karge On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Robin Laing robin.la...@drdc-rddc.gc.cawrote: Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 10:26:57 -0500, Robert Karge rkargeconsult...@gmail.com wrote: Any help would be very much appreciated. I have reloaded F10 (on the boot drive) but both drives from the original Raid 1 still appear to be totally empty. It is paradoxical how much the total loss of years of work and data teaches about better backup functionality. It is unlikely that you have really lost all of the data based on what you said you did. You do want to be careful about what you do now so that you don't make things worse while trying to fix things. The rescue disk suggestion is probably the way to start. If you are going to try to do something dangerous, you may want to consider pulling one of the disks. This has its own set of risks though and you would want to make sure if you got things back, that you back stuff up before trying to add the disk back into the raid array. I will agree with this. statement. With a 500GB drive, I would use this as a work disk. I would do an install that doesn't look at the RAID drives. I would actually disconnect them. Now you said that you rebuilt the RAID. After to did a rebuild, did you have the same LVM settings? I ask this because I had a real nightmare with LVM and a RAID 1 some time ago. I refuse to use LVM now. How much data is on the rebuilt array? What does df give you? If worse comes to worse, you can use forensic tools to scan your drives for data. I had to do this with my problem. I put the one drive into a USB port and mounted it read only to scan the drive. The worse thing you can do is panic and rush. It took me almost a week to recover some data after I forgot to back it up when I did a full system redesign and rebuild. Good luck. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: xrander and big screen
On 05Mar2009 10:17, David Hl??ik da...@hlacik.eu wrote: I have laptop with ATI radeon. I am using fglrx drivers from rpmfusion, which claims to support xrandr. My laptop has 1440x900 , My LCD attached via DVI has 1280x1204. I am trying to use dual sceen with big desktop. Yes I can achieve it via display config, or with xrandr switches via console. The main problem is , that X server treates that as a one big desktop screen. When I resize window on full deskop, it is resized over 2 displays. This is not wanted scenario of couse. I want to behave as usual - resize to the actuall display, not both. The maximise function is part of your window manager, not X itself. What window manager are you using? (If you haven't chosen one specificly, this amounts to are you running Gnome or KDE?) You may be able to configure your desktop as one X11 display with two screens (technical X11 term, usually meaning a monitor but at present meaning both monitors in your case). Then the maximise thing would work, but you wouldn't be able to move a window from one screen to another. Maybe the maximise facility is tunable in your desktop? Have a poke around the configuration panels. (I don't run Gnome or KDE, so I can't help much there). Cheers, -- Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au DoD#743 http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/ We don't like their sound, and guitar music is on the way out. --Decca Recording Co. rejecting the Beatles, 1962. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [OT] Free download of Linux Fromat for 24 hours
Nigel Henry wrote: Up to a few hours ago, when I found out that my torrent download hadn't completed, there were many folks still seeding, and was able to complete the download. I've attached the .torrent file as well, as it's only 9.9KB. Thanks! I just downloaded it very fast, so some people are still seeding. I'll try to do so for a while too. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
