Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork
I hadn't seen anyone else bring this perspective up concerning the wallpaper in the beta and I thought it deserved attention for your consideration as a group. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-olpc-list/2009-March/msg00147.html Seems to me whoever chose the background that was introduced last week did not consider that items with overtones of dissentious subjects such as politics or religion might elicit emotional reactions. I'm concerned that when my system prominently shows a picture with a temple, that might be interpreted as Mikus worships paganism To my reckoning this is the first Fedora artwork that has had culture specific elements in it, so this sort of issue might never have been raised in prior discussions. I don't know, I mostly lurk. But I'm bringing it to your attention to make sure you see that reaction. -jef ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork
On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 10:55 -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: I hadn't seen anyone else bring this perspective up concerning the wallpaper in the beta and I thought it deserved attention for your consideration as a group. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-olpc-list/2009-March/msg00147.html Seems to me whoever chose the background that was introduced last week did not consider that items with overtones of dissentious subjects such as politics or religion might elicit emotional reactions. I'm concerned that when my system prominently shows a picture with a temple, that might be interpreted as Mikus worships paganism To my reckoning this is the first Fedora artwork that has had culture specific elements in it, so this sort of issue might never have been raised in prior discussions. I don't know, I mostly lurk. But I'm bringing it to your attention to make sure you see that reaction. -jef Hm... I don't see a valid reasoning there. There is vast difference between you worshiping ancient Greece gods (not that it would be something bad if you actually do) and having a huge Zeus' temple wallpaper hanging on your wall, let alone the wallpaper in your PC (which you can promptly change if you disagree with the content)... Come on, we have names of months named after ancient Rome gods (and important people) and it still does not say anything about our beliefs. While I agree we should stay away from political references, subtle cultural references are IMHO good and bring Fedora to next level in this aspect. Martin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork
2009/3/14 Martin Sourada martin.sour...@gmail.com: Hm... I don't see a valid reasoning there. I'm delibrately not trying to make a statement as to validity of the reasoning about the objection. In fact, I might even question the idea that reasoning is ever a part of an emotional response. I'm pointing this out only because this is the first instance that I know of where this sort of emotional response on the grounds of cultural sensitivity has arisen in the work your group is doing. I certainly don't have the same emotional response. My emotion response is more of fear of the ominous,wheeling, flock of birds in the image. I haven't brought it up as a point of contention because I'm fully self-aware that most people don't perceive birds as the danger to humanity that they really areyet. Such pastoral views of flocking birds in the sky only serves to lessen our natural fear of these foul, foul descendent of the dinosaurs...disarming us of our ability to react when they final swoop down en masse to get us. But I digress... We can't necessarily reason with irrational emotional responses. You might have to talk more about what that structure is meant to convey emotionally...if its worth talking about at all. -jef ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 01:13:43PM -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: 2009/3/14 Martin Sourada martin.sour...@gmail.com: Hm... I don't see a valid reasoning there. I'm delibrately not trying to make a statement as to validity of the reasoning about the objection. In fact, I might even question the idea that reasoning is ever a part of an emotional response. I'm pointing this out only because this is the first instance that I know of where this sort of emotional response on the grounds of cultural sensitivity has arisen in the work your group is doing. I certainly don't have the same emotional response. My emotion response is more of fear of the ominous,wheeling, flock of birds in the image. I haven't brought it up as a point of contention because I'm fully self-aware that most people don't perceive birds as the danger to humanity that they really areyet. Such pastoral views of flocking birds in the sky only serves to lessen our natural fear of these foul, foul descendent of the dinosaurs...disarming us of our ability to react when they final swoop down en masse to get us. But I digress... OK, thanks for that digression, Tippi. ;-) We can't necessarily reason with irrational emotional responses. You might have to talk more about what that structure is meant to convey emotionally...if its worth talking about at all. I'm not sure it is -- but the conveyance as far as I know is simply to acknowledge the heritage of the Leonidas name. Any other inference is probably a stretch. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgpeTTMU5N29T.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 05:52:58PM -0700, Máirín Duffy wrote: - Original Message From: Jeff Spaleta jspal...@gmail.com I hadn't seen anyone else bring this perspective up concerning the wallpaper in the beta and I thought it deserved attention for your consideration as a group. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-olpc-list/2009-March/msg00147.html Seems to me whoever chose the background that was introduced last week did not consider that items with overtones of dissentious subjects such as politics or religion might elicit emotional reactions. I'm concerned that when my system prominently shows a picture with a temple, that might be interpreted as Mikus worships paganism To my reckoning this is the first Fedora artwork that has had culture specific elements in it, so this sort of issue might never have been raised in prior discussions. I don't know, I mostly lurk. But I'm bringing it to your attention to make sure you see that reaction. I totally agree. I can't believe I didn't even think about this. We need to stop the presses, immediately. Shut down all Fedora yum repo mirrors, we must stop distributing this artwork immediately. I cannot believe we let something like this out, something so divisive and controversial. I assure you it won't happen again. You see, Fedora really has a big problem on its hands here, and I will personally make it my responsibility to rectify the situation: First up - this Paul Frields guy - who puts a guy named Paul in charge of something? Paul is one of the apostles of that Jesus guy, right? A saint at least. We can't have that. No siree. We cannot have any possible reference to any organized religion in our utopian operating system's leadership. We need someone like me in charge of Fedora. Máirín - sure it's the Gaelic diminutive of Mary, who was the mother of Jesus, but it's got ACCENT MARKS. That totally makes it okay. Effective immediately, we have to revoke Fedora version control access to anyone with a name that has religious roots. We've got to nip this in the bud. [snip] Stay safe! I would like to take this moment to ask everyone to stop this thread right here before it goes any more crazy/sarcastic/ballistic. Thanks! -- Ian Weller ianwel...@gmail.com http://ianweller.org GnuPG fingerprint: E51E 0517 7A92 70A2 4226 B050 87ED 7C97 EFA8 4A36 Technology is a word that describes something that doesn't work yet. ~ Douglas Adams pgp2pnfnNRYK9.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork
- Original Message From: Máirín Duffy mai...@linuxgrrl.com To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 8:52:58 PM Subject: Re: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork Hello Jeff, Thank you for bringing this serious matter to our attention - Oh crap, I just realized my reply might be OFFENSIVE. Crap. No humor or satire allowed in Fedora either! ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork
Hello Jeff, Thank you for bringing this serious matter to our attention - - Original Message From: Jeff Spaleta jspal...@gmail.com To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 2:55:51 PM Subject: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork I hadn't seen anyone else bring this perspective up concerning the wallpaper in the beta and I thought it deserved attention for your consideration as a group. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-olpc-list/2009-March/msg00147.html Seems to me whoever chose the background that was introduced last week did not consider that items with overtones of dissentious subjects such as politics or religion might elicit emotional reactions. I'm concerned that when my system prominently shows a picture with a temple, that might be interpreted as Mikus worships paganism To my reckoning this is the first Fedora artwork that has had culture specific elements in it, so this sort of issue might never have been raised in prior discussions. I don't know, I mostly lurk. But I'm bringing it to your attention to make sure you see that reaction. I totally agree. I can't believe I didn't even think about this. We need to stop the presses, immediately. Shut down all Fedora yum repo mirrors, we must stop distributing this artwork immediately. I cannot believe we let something like this out, something so divisive and controversial. I assure you it won't happen again. You see, Fedora really has a big problem on its hands here, and I will personally make it my responsibility to rectify the situation: First up - this Paul Frields guy - who puts a guy named Paul in charge of something? Paul is one of the apostles of that Jesus guy, right? A saint at least. We can't have that. No siree. We cannot have any possible reference to any organized religion in our utopian operating system's leadership. We need someone like me in charge of Fedora. Máirín - sure it's the Gaelic diminutive of Mary, who was the mother of Jesus, but it's got ACCENT MARKS. That totally makes it okay. Effective immediately, we have to revoke Fedora version control access to anyone with a name that has religious roots. We've got to nip this in the bud. Then, we've got this other problem. See, we have this color blue that symbolizes Fedora. This is a MAJOR problem, check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue#Religion - Not only is blue an important, symbolic color in the Hindu religion, but it's also an important color in Judaism! We've got a major, major problem here. As soon as I'm stated as the new Fedora project leader, I will change the official Fedora color to blah grey, because that can't possibly symbolize ANYTHING. In fact, I think we need to cancel the Fedora art team. From now on, all of our artwork will just be blah grey-colored squares. We just can't risk offending anyone. Done and done! A! Oh, my go... er, erm whoah whoah Nelly there! I *really* mean, oh my gads! I just realized, this is way bigger a problem than we originally thought. This goes way beyond Fedora. Check this out: - The New York Public Library: http://www.flickr.com/photos/72131...@n00/238786611/ (They featured this building in Spiderman! The insensitive, incendiary clods! This is supposed to be a library! A place of higher learning! Above religion! It's indelibly marked with religious conflict all over it! It looks JUST LIKE A TEMPLE. How could I not have seen this before) - The White House: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kathleen-andersen/237167863/ (There go those Americans again, stirring up deeply-rooted religious strife by making their president's accomodations resemble a Greek temple! So much for the separation of church and state!) - apple.com - these computers are swiftly gaining popularity. We have to stop this scourge. I mean, clearly Apple is a reference to a Biblical passage involving a garden and snakes and naked people and that sort of thing. How offensive! - Battlestar Galactica - they've got this kind of chorus-y hymn-sounding chanting for a theme song. Kind of like religious chanting! They are obviously broadcasting subliminal religious messages. Good thing you brought this conspiracy up. Now we can warn the good people of the world! I'm just too distraught to carry on. I feel like my entire world is full of these things symbolizing other things, and I'm finding myself strangely offended by everything. Like the crown molding along the ceiling of my apartment, which now looks like the columns of a temple. Or the weave pattern in the rug beneath my feet, which seems to contain some hidden heathen message. Crap. I'm typing this all on a computer with FEDORA on it, with a blue Fedora logo in the upper left corner and that horrible, awful religious wallpaper. My palms are tingling. I'm going to go run to the kitchen and scrub them with a Brillo pad... oh crap, those are blue aren't they. Bleach! I'll
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Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 197 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/attachments/20090314/9420e97f/attachment.bin -- Message: 3 Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:13:43 -0800 From: Jeff Spaleta jspal...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 604aa7910903141413k7022168eqce852ca173dd7...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2009/3/14 Martin Sourada martin.sour...@gmail.com: Hm... I don't see a valid reasoning there. I'm delibrately not trying to make a statement as to validity of the reasoning about the objection. In fact, I might even question the idea that reasoning is ever a part of an emotional response. I'm pointing this out only because this is the first instance that I know of where this sort of emotional response on the grounds of cultural sensitivity has arisen in the work your group is doing. I certainly don't have the same emotional response. My emotion response is more of fear of the ominous,wheeling, flock of birds in the image. I haven't brought it up as a point of contention because I'm fully self-aware that most people don't perceive birds as the danger to humanity that they really areyet. Such pastoral views of flocking birds in the sky only serves to lessen our natural fear of these foul, foul descendent of the dinosaurs...disarming us of our ability to react when they final swoop down en masse to get us. But I digress... We can't necessarily reason with irrational emotional responses. You might have to talk more about what that structure is meant to convey emotionally...if its worth talking about at all. -jef -- Message: 4 Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:29:32 -0400 From: Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork To: fedora-art-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 20090314222932.gg19...@localhost.localdomain Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 01:13:43PM -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: 2009/3/14 Martin Sourada martin.sour...@gmail.com: Hm... I don't see a valid reasoning there. I'm delibrately not trying to make a statement as to validity of the reasoning about the objection. In fact, I might even question the idea that reasoning is ever a part of an emotional response. I'm pointing this out only because this is the first instance that I know of where this sort of emotional response on the grounds of cultural sensitivity has arisen in the work your group is doing. I certainly don't have the same emotional response. My emotion response is more of fear of the ominous,wheeling, flock of birds in the image. I haven't brought it up as a point of contention because I'm fully self-aware that most people don't perceive birds as the danger to humanity that they really areyet. Such pastoral views of flocking birds in the sky only serves to lessen our natural fear of these foul, foul descendent of the dinosaurs...disarming us of our ability to react when they final swoop down en masse to get us. But I digress... OK, thanks for that digression, Tippi. ;-) We can't necessarily reason with irrational emotional responses. You might have to talk more about what that structure is meant to convey emotionally...if its worth talking about at all. I'm not sure it is -- but the conveyance as far as I know is simply to acknowledge the heritage of the Leonidas name. Any other inference is probably a stretch. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/attachments/20090314/1aa6ee65/attachment.bin -- Message: 5 Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:52:58 -0700 (PDT) From: M?ir?n Duffy mai...@linuxgrrl.com Subject: Re: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 518191.96829...@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello Jeff, Thank you for bringing this serious matter to our attention - - Original Message From: Jeff Spaleta jspal...@gmail.com To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 2:55:51 PM Subject: Just an FYI concerning the beta artwork I hadn't seen anyone else bring this perspective up concerning the wallpaper in the beta and I thought it deserved attention for your consideration as a group. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-olpc-list
[Bug 477467] [tibetan-machine-uni-fonts] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines
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--- Comment #5 from Rajeesh rajeeshknamb...@gmail.com 2009-03-14 02:04:18
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For bug # 477044
The following changes are required in the spec:
1. Add %define fontname tibetan-machine-uni at the very beginning
2. Remobe %define fontdir directive
3. Add BuildRequires: fontpackages-devel 1.13
4. Remove both %post and %postun sections
5. Replace all the remaining %{fontdir} with %{_fontdir}
6. Replace the whole %files section with:
%_font_pkg *.ttf
%doc COPYING README
%dir %{_fontdir}
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[Bug 489928] FreeType 2.3.8 is not binary compatible to version 2.3.7
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[Bug 489928] FreeType 2.3.8 is not binary compatible to version 2.3.7
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[Bug 487912] Unable to upgrade apanov-edrip-fonts, due to i18n provide issue
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[Bug 347237] Making Pango use a given cairo_font_face_t
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[Bug 490281] Bold font too bold
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[Bug 490281] New: Bold font too bold
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: Bold font too bold https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490281 Summary: Bold font too bold Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: medium Priority: low Component: freetype AssignedTo: besfa...@redhat.com ReportedBy: asci...@gmail.com QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org CC: besfa...@redhat.com, ke...@tigcc.ticalc.org, fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com Classification: Fedora Created an attachment (id=335220) -- (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=335220) screenshot from fedora Description of problem: In fedora the bold fonts are too bold compared to the same font in ubuntu. This makes bold letter sightly unreadable. I have attached two screenshot one from ubuntu and other from fedora. You can see the difference Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): How reproducible: Steps to Reproduce: 1. 2. 3. Actual results: Expected results: Additional info: -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 486977] Review Request: gnu-free-fonts
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--- Comment #9 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-03-14
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Another pass:
1. you're not defining fontname as intended by the template and as a result you
have weird package names such as gnu-free-fonts-mono-fonts instead of a nice
gnu-free-mono-fonts
fontname shoud not have the same value as name or we would not bother with it
2. your fontconfig symlinks are broken
lrw-r--r--1 rootroot 52 mars 14 19:35
/etc/fonts/conf.d/60-gnu-free-fonts-mono.conf -
/usr/share/fontconfig/conf.avail/gnu-free-fonts-m
ono
-rw-r--r--1 rootroot 334 mars 5 21:46
/usr/share/fontconfig/conf.avail/60-gnu-free-fonts-mono.conf
It would probably simpler if you just used the symlinking logic proposed by the
template
3. Your compat package
Requires: gnu-free-fonts-freemono-fonts = %{version}-%{release}
Requires: gnu-free-fonts-freesans-fonts = %{version}-%{release}
Requires: gnu-free-fonts-freeserif-fonts = %{version}-%{release}
But your srpm generates subpackages named differently, so it won't work
4. rpmlint points some minor problems
W: spelling-error-in-description compatability compatibility
E: description-line-too-long This package only exists to help transition pre
20090104-4 freefotn users to the new\
W: summary-not-capitalized freefont compatibility package
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rpms/dejavu-fonts/devel .cvsignore, 1.52, 1.53 dejavu-fonts.spec, 1.98, 1.99 import.log, 1.13, 1.14 sources, 1.52, 1.53
Author: nim
Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/dejavu-fonts/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv30004/devel
Modified Files:
.cvsignore dejavu-fonts.spec import.log sources
Log Message:
2.29
Index: .cvsignore
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RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/dejavu-fonts/devel/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.52
retrieving revision 1.53
diff -u -r1.52 -r1.53
--- .cvsignore 21 Dec 2008 17:18:47 - 1.52
+++ .cvsignore 14 Mar 2009 19:05:29 - 1.53
@@ -1 +1 @@
-dejavu-fonts-2.28.tar.bz2
+dejavu-fonts-2.29.tar.bz2
Index: dejavu-fonts.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/dejavu-fonts/devel/dejavu-fonts.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.98
retrieving revision 1.99
diff -u -r1.98 -r1.99
--- dejavu-fonts.spec 24 Feb 2009 11:21:21 - 1.98
+++ dejavu-fonts.spec 14 Mar 2009 19:05:29 - 1.99
@@ -27,8 +27,8 @@
Name:%{fontname}-fonts
-Version: 2.28
-Release: 6%{?alphatag}%{?dist}
+Version: 2.29
+Release: 1%{?alphatag}%{?dist}
Summary: DejaVu fonts
Group: User Interface/X
@@ -242,8 +242,12 @@
%changelog
-* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org
- 2.28-6
-- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
+* Sat Mar 14 2009 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net
+- 2.29-1
+
+* Tue Feb 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org
+- 2.28-6
+â Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
* Mon Feb 16 2009 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net
- 2.28-5
Index: import.log
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RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/dejavu-fonts/devel/import.log,v
retrieving revision 1.13
retrieving revision 1.14
diff -u -r1.13 -r1.14
--- import.log 23 Feb 2009 08:29:58 - 1.13
+++ import.log 14 Mar 2009 19:05:29 - 1.14
@@ -11,3 +11,4 @@
dejavu-fonts-2_28-3_fc11:HEAD:dejavu-fonts-2.28-3.fc11.src.rpm:1232147011
dejavu-fonts-2_28-4_fc11:HEAD:dejavu-fonts-2.28-4.fc11.src.rpm:1234084218
dejavu-fonts-2_28-5_fc11:HEAD:dejavu-fonts-2.28-5.fc11.src.rpm:123533
+dejavu-fonts-2_29-1_fc11:HEAD:dejavu-fonts-2.29-1.fc11.src.rpm:1237057458
Index: sources
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RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/dejavu-fonts/devel/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.52
retrieving revision 1.53
diff -u -r1.52 -r1.53
--- sources 21 Dec 2008 17:18:48 - 1.52
+++ sources 14 Mar 2009 19:05:29 - 1.53
@@ -1 +1 @@
-fff585e19115dbe76746f6df66ab0dc6 dejavu-fonts-2.28.tar.bz2
+4728d26da8daa5b4ebe87c428d745b06 dejavu-fonts-2.29.tar.bz2
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[Bug 489928] FreeType 2.3.8 is not binary compatible to version 2.3.7
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=489928 --- Comment #12 from Behdad Esfahbod besfa...@redhat.com 2009-03-14 16:52:24 EDT --- Alexei, the scope and implications of this bug are very well understood. Please don't add comments that do not add any information. Thanks. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 489928] FreeType 2.3.8 is not binary compatible to version 2.3.7
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=489928 --- Comment #13 from Behdad Esfahbod besfa...@redhat.com 2009-03-14 17:05:42 EDT --- After inspecting the ABI-breaking change in 2.3.8, I'm fairly confident that we don't need to recompile any of the packages. 2.3.7-2.3.8 could cause memory corruption, but 2.3.8-2.3.9 is fairly safe. I'll ask 2.3.9 to be tagged in F11 and close this bug. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
rpms/fontconfig/devel fontconfig.spec, 1.127, 1.128 sources, 1.42, 1.43
Author: behdad
Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/fontconfig/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv5398
Modified Files:
fontconfig.spec sources
Log Message:
* Tue Mar 14 2009 Behdad Esfahbod besfa...@redhat.com - 2.6.99.behdad-3
- New tarball with version fixed in the header
Index: fontconfig.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/fontconfig/devel/fontconfig.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.127
retrieving revision 1.128
diff -u -r1.127 -r1.128
--- fontconfig.spec 13 Mar 2009 23:11:08 - 1.127
+++ fontconfig.spec 14 Mar 2009 22:59:59 - 1.128
@@ -3,7 +3,7 @@
Summary: Font configuration and customization library
Name: fontconfig
Version: 2.6.99.behdad
-Release: 2%{?dist}
+Release: 3%{?dist}
License: MIT
Group: System Environment/Libraries
Source: http://fontconfig.org/release/fontconfig-%{version}.tar.gz
@@ -131,6 +131,9 @@
%{_mandir}/man3/*
%changelog
+* Tue Mar 14 2009 Behdad Esfahbod besfa...@redhat.com - 2.6.99.behdad-3
+- New tarball with version fixed in the header
+
* Tue Mar 13 2009 Behdad Esfahbod besfa...@redhat.com - 2.6.99.behdad-2
- Previous tarball was broken. Rebuild with respinned ball.
Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/fontconfig/devel/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.42
retrieving revision 1.43
diff -u -r1.42 -r1.43
--- sources 13 Mar 2009 23:11:08 - 1.42
+++ sources 14 Mar 2009 23:00:00 - 1.43
@@ -1 +1 @@
-1e713a359867608d7733ebec47b9daaf fontconfig-2.6.99.behdad.tar.gz
+eec83c56829148d5511d5b896339bb25 fontconfig-2.6.99.behdad.tar.gz
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[Bug 487912] Unable to upgrade apanov-edrip-fonts, due to i18n provide issue
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[Bug 70132] Support @font-face
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[Bug 490281] Bold font too bold
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Change Request -- high risk, high reward
ricky and I have identified a piece of code in fas2's new safasprovider that's querying the database a lot. It's causing anything that checks identity to issue a query to the database to lookup the visit cookie. This is causing things that lookup information on the identity multiple times to take a lot of time. One of the functions that does this is filter_private(), the function that removes excess information according to privacy settings and who is looking for the data. Our test was the /user/list method which is currently running over 5 minutes for an otherwise non-database loop. Changing this caused the loop to run for 8 seconds. That's the benefit. The risk is that this is a change to the safasprovider, ie the portion of fas2 that authenticates the user. So if there's a reason this shouldn't be cached, we could potentially be breaking a lot of things. Ricky and I have both looked at the code in fas/safasprovider.py::SaFasIdentity and think that it's safe to cache this. The TG-1.0.8 saprovider on which safasprovider is based does not cache this but I've looked at the code and it seems like their provider only uses the variable in question a maximum of two times during a request. The CSRF protection that we've enabled needs to use this variable more often. Here's the code: --- a/fas/safasprovider.py +++ b/fas/safasprovider.py @@ -65,6 +65,7 @@ class SaFasIdentity(object): def __init__(self, visit_key=None, user=None, using_ssl=False): self.visit_key = visit_key +self._visit_link = None if user: self._user = user if visit_key is not None: @@ -201,9 +202,13 @@ class SaFasIdentity(object): ### TG: Same as TG-1.0.8 def _get_visit_link(self): '''Get the visit link to this identity.''' +if self._visit_link: +return self.visit_link if self.visit_key is None: -return None -return visit_class.query.filter_by(visit_key=self.visit_key).first() +self._visit_link = None +else: +self._visit_link = visit_class.query.filter_by(visit_key=self.visi t_key).first() +return self._visit_link visit_link = property(_get_visit_link) If we were outside of freeze, I would apply this as it is causing issues for some of the things that talk to fas (like zodbot and developer instances of pkgdb). -Toshio signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Change Request -- high risk, high reward
I'm out, sorry for the top post. But zodbot FAS routines are not functional due to this, so I'd be +1 here if I had a vote :) On 3/14/09, Ricky Zhou ri...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On 2009-03-14 05:36:27 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Ricky and I have both looked at the code in fas/safasprovider.py::SaFasIdentity and think that it's safe to cache this. The TG-1.0.8 saprovider on which safasprovider is based does not cache this but I've looked at the code and it seems like their provider only uses the variable in question a maximum of two times during a request. The CSRF protection that we've enabled needs to use this variable more often. Here's the code: --- a/fas/safasprovider.py +++ b/fas/safasprovider.py @@ -65,6 +65,7 @@ class SaFasIdentity(object): def __init__(self, visit_key=None, user=None, using_ssl=False): self.visit_key = visit_key +self._visit_link = None if user: self._user = user if visit_key is not None: @@ -201,9 +202,13 @@ class SaFasIdentity(object): ### TG: Same as TG-1.0.8 def _get_visit_link(self): '''Get the visit link to this identity.''' +if self._visit_link: +return self.visit_link I already mentioned this to Toshio, but this line should be changed to return self._visit_link if self.visit_key is None: -return None -return visit_class.query.filter_by(visit_key=self.visit_key).first() +self._visit_link = None +else: +self._visit_link = visit_class.query.filter_by(visit_key=self.visi t_key).first() +return self._visit_link visit_link = property(_get_visit_link) If we were outside of freeze, I would apply this as it is causing issues for some of the things that talk to fas (like zodbot and developer instances of pkgdb). +1 As Toshio mentioned, we've looked at the places where this variable is used, and it should be safe (and easy to revert otherwise). This will be a giant performance improvement for code where we call filter_private on a lot of users (which is a lot of places). Thanks, Ricky -- Sent from my mobile device ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Change Request -- high risk, high reward
On 2009-03-14 05:36:27 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Ricky and I have both looked at the code in fas/safasprovider.py::SaFasIdentity and think that it's safe to cache this. The TG-1.0.8 saprovider on which safasprovider is based does not cache this but I've looked at the code and it seems like their provider only uses the variable in question a maximum of two times during a request. The CSRF protection that we've enabled needs to use this variable more often. Here's the code: --- a/fas/safasprovider.py +++ b/fas/safasprovider.py @@ -65,6 +65,7 @@ class SaFasIdentity(object): def __init__(self, visit_key=None, user=None, using_ssl=False): self.visit_key = visit_key +self._visit_link = None if user: self._user = user if visit_key is not None: @@ -201,9 +202,13 @@ class SaFasIdentity(object): ### TG: Same as TG-1.0.8 def _get_visit_link(self): '''Get the visit link to this identity.''' +if self._visit_link: +return self.visit_link I already mentioned this to Toshio, but this line should be changed to return self._visit_link if self.visit_key is None: -return None -return visit_class.query.filter_by(visit_key=self.visit_key).first() +self._visit_link = None +else: +self._visit_link = visit_class.query.filter_by(visit_key=self.visi t_key).first() +return self._visit_link visit_link = property(_get_visit_link) If we were outside of freeze, I would apply this as it is causing issues for some of the things that talk to fas (like zodbot and developer instances of pkgdb). +1 As Toshio mentioned, we've looked at the places where this variable is used, and it should be safe (and easy to revert otherwise). This will be a giant performance improvement for code where we call filter_private on a lot of users (which is a lot of places). Thanks, Ricky pgphsfeLNHnCK.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Change Request -- high risk, high reward
- Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote: ricky and I have identified a piece of code in fas2's new safasprovider that's querying the database a lot. It's causing anything that checks identity to issue a query to the database to lookup the visit cookie. This is causing things that lookup information on the identity multiple times to take a lot of time. One of the functions that does this is filter_private(), the function that removes excess information according to privacy settings and who is looking for the data. Our test was the /user/list method which is currently running over 5 minutes for an otherwise non-database loop. Changing this caused the loop to run for 8 seconds. That's the benefit. The risk is that this is a change to the safasprovider, ie the portion of fas2 that authenticates the user. So if there's a reason this shouldn't be cached, we could potentially be breaking a lot of things. Ricky and I have both looked at the code in fas/safasprovider.py::SaFasIdentity and think that it's safe to cache this. The TG-1.0.8 saprovider on which safasprovider is based does not cache this but I've looked at the code and it seems like their provider only uses the variable in question a maximum of two times during a request. The CSRF protection that we've enabled needs to use this variable more often. Here's the code: --- a/fas/safasprovider.py +++ b/fas/safasprovider.py @@ -65,6 +65,7 @@ class SaFasIdentity(object): def __init__(self, visit_key=None, user=None, using_ssl=False): self.visit_key = visit_key +self._visit_link = None if user: self._user = user if visit_key is not None: @@ -201,9 +202,13 @@ class SaFasIdentity(object): ### TG: Same as TG-1.0.8 def _get_visit_link(self): '''Get the visit link to this identity.''' +if self._visit_link: +return self.visit_link if self.visit_key is None: -return None -return visit_class.query.filter_by(visit_key=self.visit_key).first() +self._visit_link = None +else: +self._visit_link = visit_class.query.filter_by(visit_key=self.visi t_key).first() +return self._visit_link visit_link = property(_get_visit_link) If we were outside of freeze, I would apply this as it is causing issues for some of the things that talk to fas (like zodbot and developer instances of pkgdb). -Toshio +1 - I live for danger! That said, anything that speeds it up is a good thing! ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Change Request -- high risk, high reward
On Mar 14, 2009, at 8:27 PM, Nigel Jones nigjo...@redhat.com wrote: - Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote: ricky and I have identified a piece of code in fas2's new safasprovider that's querying the database a lot. It's causing anything that checks identity to issue a query to the database to lookup the visit cookie. This is causing things that lookup information on the identity multiple times to take a lot of time. One of the functions that does this is filter_private(), the function that removes excess information according to privacy settings and who is looking for the data. Our test was the /user/list method which is currently running over 5 minutes for an otherwise non-database loop. Changing this caused the loop to run for 8 seconds. That's the benefit. The risk is that this is a change to the safasprovider, ie the portion of fas2 that authenticates the user. So if there's a reason this shouldn't be cached, we could potentially be breaking a lot of things. Ricky and I have both looked at the code in fas/safasprovider.py::SaFasIdentity and think that it's safe to cache this. The TG-1.0.8 saprovider on which safasprovider is based does not cache this but I've looked at the code and it seems like their provider only uses the variable in question a maximum of two times during a request. The CSRF protection that we've enabled needs to use this variable more often. Here's the code: --- a/fas/safasprovider.py +++ b/fas/safasprovider.py @@ -65,6 +65,7 @@ class SaFasIdentity(object): def __init__(self, visit_key=None, user=None, using_ssl=False): self.visit_key = visit_key +self._visit_link = None if user: self._user = user if visit_key is not None: @@ -201,9 +202,13 @@ class SaFasIdentity(object): ### TG: Same as TG-1.0.8 def _get_visit_link(self): '''Get the visit link to this identity.''' +if self._visit_link: +return self.visit_link if self.visit_key is None: -return None -return visit_class.query.filter_by(visit_key=self.visit_key).first() +self._visit_link = None +else: +self._visit_link = visit_class.query.filter_by(visit_key=self.visi t_key).first() +return self._visit_link visit_link = property(_get_visit_link) If we were outside of freeze, I would apply this as it is causing issues for some of the things that talk to fas (like zodbot and developer instances of pkgdb). -Toshio +1 - I live for danger! That said, anything that speeds it up is a good thing! +1. Just the beta freezeand the revert is easy. -Mike ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Change Request -- high risk, high reward
mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote: On Mar 14, 2009, at 8:27 PM, Nigel Jones nigjo...@redhat.com wrote: - Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote: ricky and I have identified a piece of code in fas2's new safasprovider that's querying the database a lot. It's causing anything that checks identity to issue a query to the database to lookup the visit cookie. This is causing things that lookup information on the identity multiple times to take a lot of time. One of the functions that does this is filter_private(), the function that removes excess information according to privacy settings and who is looking for the data. Our test was the /user/list method which is currently running over 5 minutes for an otherwise non-database loop. Changing this caused the loop to run for 8 seconds. That's the benefit. The risk is that this is a change to the safasprovider, ie the portion of fas2 that authenticates the user. So if there's a reason this shouldn't be cached, we could potentially be breaking a lot of things. Ricky and I have both looked at the code in fas/safasprovider.py::SaFasIdentity and think that it's safe to cache this. The TG-1.0.8 saprovider on which safasprovider is based does not cache this but I've looked at the code and it seems like their provider only uses the variable in question a maximum of two times during a request. The CSRF protection that we've enabled needs to use this variable more often. Here's the code: --- a/fas/safasprovider.py +++ b/fas/safasprovider.py @@ -65,6 +65,7 @@ class SaFasIdentity(object): def __init__(self, visit_key=None, user=None, using_ssl=False): self.visit_key = visit_key +self._visit_link = None if user: self._user = user if visit_key is not None: @@ -201,9 +202,13 @@ class SaFasIdentity(object): ### TG: Same as TG-1.0.8 def _get_visit_link(self): '''Get the visit link to this identity.''' +if self._visit_link: +return self.visit_link if self.visit_key is None: -return None -return visit_class.query.filter_by(visit_key=self.visit_key).first() +self._visit_link = None +else: +self._visit_link = visit_class.query.filter_by(visit_key=self.visi t_key).first() +return self._visit_link visit_link = property(_get_visit_link) If we were outside of freeze, I would apply this as it is causing issues for some of the things that talk to fas (like zodbot and developer instances of pkgdb). -Toshio +1 - I live for danger! That said, anything that speeds it up is a good thing! +1. Just the beta freezeand the revert is easy. Thanks guys. Hotfixed on the server. If anyone notices wierdness with authentication to fas, let me know. -Toshio signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: F10 evolution hangs on imap after a few hours
2009/3/14 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com: On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 17:42 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 19:42 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 16:30 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 18:28 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 17:13 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:58:30 -0700 Craig White wrote: Anyone else seeing this from evolution-2.24.5-1.fc10.i386 - after an hour or two on imap connection, I click on a message and the screen simply says 'Formatting message' but never goes further and even closing Evolution seems to be hung (it does a purge of all deleted messages per settings but never actually quits until I force it). Not that specific behaviour, but evolution is pretty much impossible to leave running regardless of which kind of mail connection you use. Something somewhere starts leaking like a sieve and it consumes all resources on the system. I gave up on evolution and started using claws-mail - it is vastly more reliable. I've had my share of Evo problems (and have reported a good few to Bugzilla) but I find the current version (2.24.5) to very reliable. I tend to leave it running permanently. I have two IMAP accounts (including this one on Gmail) and one POP account with less usage. My main complaint is that occasionally the Gmail account becomes inaccessible, but restarting Evo fixes it immediately. I ve already snip I'm quite certain that this is not a GMAIL issue but rather an IMAP issue and I'm currently testing it with TLS turned off to see if that matters. Clearly I have a similar problem to yours if not the same exact problem. I only ever see this with Gmail, not with my other IMAP account. From your description, I think you are seeing a different problem. In my case Evo is not hung and isn't showing Formatting message. It just says there's an error contacting the server when I try to open a message on Gmail. Restarting Evo clears it immediately. This happens a few times per day. Ditto, but using Thunderbird and GMail/IMAP. Every so often I come into work to find Thunderbird prompting for my Gmail password. When I supply it, I get a message saying imap.googlemail.com is not a valid IMAP4 server. - a thunderbird restart cures this. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: invalid context: httpd_sys_content_rw_t
On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 08:29 -0400, Stephen Smalley wrote: On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 05:10 -0400, Braden McDaniel wrote: I'm trying to let httpd write to a subdirectory of ~/public_html and I'm running into SELinux errors on Fedora 10. The error message directs me to man httpd_selinux, which describes several context types. Of these, httpd_sys_content_rw_t sounds like what I want; however, chcon doesn't seem to know about it: $ chcon -R httpd_sys_content_rw_t mydir chcon: invalid context: httpd_sys_content_rw_t You would need to use the -t option to specify just the type without specifying a full security context. Aha. But you should be able to just run: restorecon -v mydir That makes the type httpd_user_content_t, which doesn't let httpd write to the directory. Using chcon -t to change the type to httpd_user_content_rw_t does the trick, though. Thanks. -- Braden McDaniel e-mail: bra...@endoframe.com http://endoframe.comJabber: bra...@jabber.org -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can't see modem on F10
On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:53:54 -0600 Christopher A. Williams chriswfed...@cawllc.com wrote: I have a system that needs to use a modem for Internet access. I've tried just about everything I can think of to get the modem to be seen and have had no luck so far. I've actually used two different internal modems (these are NOT Winmodems) with absolutely no luck! There are very very few which are not winmodems and are internal. Which ones are you trying and what PCI identifiers do they have ? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f10 annoying bugs/enhancements: chooser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 12/03/2009 16:05, Paul W. Frields a écrit : On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 12:27:40AM +1030, Tim wrote: Sharpe, Sam J: Add or edit /etc/gdm/custom.conf and add this section: [greeter] Browser=false Then restart gdm... fred smith: This doesn't seem to work in F10. I remember seeing other posts on it, and the consensus was th at a lot of the configurability has been disabled, including the ability to control the font size (which on my eeepc is HUGE on the small screen). Allegedly, replacing it with the one from F9 solves the proglem, though I haven't tried that. Well, I'm using Fedora 9, and nothing that I've tried stops that damn user list appearing on GDM. Neither does anything stop the inclusion of names I want excluded. I've even tried changing the background image, and it ignores that instruction, too. I've got no kind words for the thing. It's not configurable. It's slow to fire up, *much* slower than the GDM logon screen on Fedora 7. Every log on requires cursoring through the list, or typing the name, since it NEVER starts with reselecting the same name that logged in previously, nor does the list appear to be in any detectable sorting order (user ID, user name, real name, nothing). I tried using XDM, instead, but it doesn't start something that Gnome needs to run. I don't want *anything* to do with KDE on my system, so KDM's not getting a look in. Just a straight type in username and password box, as it used to be, would suit me. This should work fine: $ su - # enter root password at prompt $ GCONFSYS=$(gconftool-2 --get-default-source) $ gconftool-2 --config-source=$GCONFSYS --set /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list \ --type bool true It worked for me too on f10. Have you any other tips like this to change the language: I would like the chooser in French, or the image which is quite nice when you use one screen but become ugly when spread on two screens... I am wondering why there is not a more friendly way to configure all this.. Thanks. - -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél. +33 (0)1 4286 2413 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkm7fu0ACgkQdE6C2dhV2JX3ygCeP/uDzKJKzMjTNrhCacsmk94h jMEAnRyOZVq2QYpanUwp0GX8Bi2ZM262 =POP3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f10 annoying bugs/enhancements: chooser
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:54:53AM +0100, François Patte wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 12/03/2009 16:05, Paul W. Frields a écrit : On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 12:27:40AM +1030, Tim wrote: Sharpe, Sam J: Add or edit /etc/gdm/custom.conf and add this section: [greeter] Browser=false Then restart gdm... fred smith: This doesn't seem to work in F10. I remember seeing other posts on it, and the consensus was th at a lot of the configurability has been disabled, including the ability to control the font size (which on my eeepc is HUGE on the small screen). Allegedly, replacing it with the one from F9 solves the proglem, though I haven't tried that. Well, I'm using Fedora 9, and nothing that I've tried stops that damn user list appearing on GDM. Neither does anything stop the inclusion of names I want excluded. I've even tried changing the background image, and it ignores that instruction, too. I've got no kind words for the thing. It's not configurable. It's slow to fire up, *much* slower than the GDM logon screen on Fedora 7. Every log on requires cursoring through the list, or typing the name, since it NEVER starts with reselecting the same name that logged in previously, nor does the list appear to be in any detectable sorting order (user ID, user name, real name, nothing). I tried using XDM, instead, but it doesn't start something that Gnome needs to run. I don't want *anything* to do with KDE on my system, so KDM's not getting a look in. Just a straight type in username and password box, as it used to be, would suit me. This should work fine: $ su - # enter root password at prompt $ GCONFSYS=$(gconftool-2 --get-default-source) $ gconftool-2 --config-source=$GCONFSYS --set /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list \ --type bool true It worked for me too on f10. Really! Didn't do anything visibly useful on my f10. Perhaps I should try it agagian. Have you any other tips like this to change the language: I would like the chooser in French, or the image which is quite nice when you use one screen but become ugly when spread on two screens... I am wondering why there is not a more friendly way to configure all this.. Thanks. - -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél. +33 (0)1 4286 2413 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkm7fu0ACgkQdE6C2dhV2JX3ygCeP/uDzKJKzMjTNrhCacsmk94h jMEAnRyOZVq2QYpanUwp0GX8Bi2ZM262 =POP3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- Fred Smith -- fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us - And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government there will be no end. He will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. --- Isaiah 9:7 (niv) -- pgp2CRG2VTFr7.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: unlock utility for linux
Worse, there's a new standard being proposed for such drive locking--which doesn't specify overrides or resets. I'm going to hate this cr*p when clients come up and ask how to recover their data, because they forgot their hard disk password... You can issue a security freeze to a drive to prevent it accepting any further password/security commands until power cycled. Really this needs to be a BIOS option but very few systems have BIOS support for it although there are some add on products. See hdparm --security-freeze ... Some day someone will write a fast spreading virus that locks a lot of hard disks and the vendors will think harder about the problem although I'm still hoping that they'll think about it *before* something bad happens as some of the BIOS and firmware people have. Alan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Shell confusion
Garry T. Williams wrote: On Thursday 12 March 2009 21:25:27 Dave Bolt IT Solutions wrote: When I start a terminal as dave I get a prompt [d...@test-host ~]$ When I do su amandabackup I get a prompt bash-3.2$ ^^^ Check the manual page for su(1). If you had entered `su - amandabackup', that user's login scripts would have been run. In general, using su without its `-' parameter is a bad idea[*] especially when switching to the root login. Interesting thought, I generally warn people that - or -l will do a login, and they will wind up running in the other user's home directory. Definitely not what people want many times, such as running make install after building a package, or the like. For instance sudo su root -c make install runs the install rules in the current directory, probably just what you wanted. sudo su - -c make install runs the install part of whatever Makefile is in root's home directory. Almost certainly not what you intended! __ [*] Unless, of course, you know why you want to do that. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: FC10, Virtualization , Windows XP
On 03/04/2009 07:09 PM, Jim wrote: FC 10/KDE what is the best Virtualization program for FC10, to run Windows XP in. I understand because my AMD Athlon doesn't have a svm feature I can't run KVM, and VM Ware is slow ? My experience with my HP 6125 AMD 64 laptop was that Virtualbox runs much better than my previous VMWare installaiton. Currently, Virtualbox 2.1.4 is the most current release. Initially, I installed it to run Realplayer 10. While there is a native Realplayer on Linux, the videos my wife wanted needed MSIE to authenticate, and WINE (and Crossover Office) do not support RealPlayer 10. With VMWare, the images would freeze, but with Virtualbox, it works well. However, we use VMWare Workstation at work with RHEL 5.2 as the guest OS, and performance is reasonable. I use KVM/QEMU at home with no complaints. -- Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org Boston Linux and Unix PGP key id: 537C5846 PGP Key fingerprint: 3D1B 8377 A3C0 A5F2 ECBB CA3B 4607 4319 537C 5846 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
gdm chooser config side effect warning
I decided to try the prescription from the thread on gdm chooser for turning off the user list: GCONFSYS=$(gconftool-2 --get-default-source) gconftool-2 --config-source=$GCONFSYS --set /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list --type bool true It did indeed work, no more stoopid user list, but as a side effect it also utterly ignored my ~/.dmrc file. It always defaults to a GNOME session login, I have to manually pick a different session kind on each login - the choice does not stick. It is really too bad the gdm developers aren't slightly more moronic - with just a tad fewer brains they would be utterly unable to develop code that even they imagined should be released and we'd be spared all these improvements. P.S. Setting it back to false got things back to normal. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Disabling mouse taps on Fedora 10 (solved)
David wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: I'm a lot more unhappy with leaving out the ability to do that. If system-config-display is at least installed the user has the tool, and doesn't need to install from command line. Not creating xorg.conf is reasonable, but if it doesn't work and you need xorg.conf you always need the tool. from the CLI (since no X) X -configure The problem is that there are ten screens of command line options to be understood, and it gets some of its information by probing, rather than user input. Much of the information, such as that needed to use --layout, is in the xorg.conf man page, which makes for a painful process figuring out what options are needed just to generate xorg.conf with the right stanzas to edit. If there is a way to use bugzilla without X for a browser, I bet fewer than 1% of all users know what it is. And not everyone has a second system to use. I'm not just making a point here, but I think you need an entry in xorg.conf. I haven't done that since about X11R5 or so, but I think the option was something like ViewPort which was the physical (display) window size. I could be misremembering, that might be the virtual size, but it gives you somewhere to look. Do let us know if you find it. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Web cam recommendations?
John Horne wrote: On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 22:53 +0100, Erik P. Olsen wrote: On 23/02/09 22:41, Fernando Apesteguía wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Erik P. Olsen epod...@gmail.com wrote: On 23/02/09 14:34, Fernando Apesteguía wrote: [snip] You could try another choice like Ekiga, although I'm afraid to say it doesn't reach the quality in video than Skype does (I can receive video with Skype) What version of Skype do you have? The one I've got (version 2.0.0.72) does not seem to have any video support at all. Hi, I'm gonna open a new thread instead of hijacking the subject of this one :) I don't think I hijacked the subject. It is about webcam recommendation for Skype and I don't believe that Skype for linux has video support, so AFAICT no webcam can be recommended at all. Or am I totally wrong? [snip] Totally wrong I would say. I've got a Logitech Quickcam pro 9000 on my F10 box. It has both video and audio - works fine with skype. So what version do you have? -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Network Manager Only Allows 1 connection only
JohnMinson wrote: all I want to do is add a second(static) ip (device alias 1) to my interface in addition to the dhcp address all ready being procured . See the man page on hijacking threads. I can find no combinations of 'Network Manager' settings that allows this to happen . If I plumb the interface manually after Network Manager' is finished initializing it works fine . If I turn off NM I get this in the log localhost nm-system-settings:ifcfg-rh: Ignoring connection 'System eth0 ' and its device because NM_CONTROLLED was false. localhost nm-system-settings:ifcfg-rh: Ignoring connection 'System eth0:1' and its device because NM_CONTROLLED was false. this should not be this difficult -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Partitions screwed up
Jim wrote: FC 10 Here is my Fdisk; DEv BOOT START END BlocksIDSYSTEM /dev/sda11 5099 40957686 83 Linux /dev/sda2 * 5100 6374 10241432+ 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/sda36375 14815 67802332+ 83 Linux /dev/sda4 14816 149461052257+5 Extended /dev/sda5 14816 149461052227 82LinuxSwap The sda1 is really the / Linux boot partition. When I resized the /dev/sda2 / partition to get 10gb of free space to make a partition, /dev/sda1 for WindowsXP NTFS, Gparted changed the Partition number. From what I can see is delete /dev/sda2 and change /dev/sda1 Linux / to /dev/sda2 to get back to Linux / as Boot. I don't know a whole bunch about Linux, so please be very definitive on what I need to do to get these partitions straighten out. You are making things much too complicated. All you have to do is change what partition is marked as boot. Using fdisk: fdisk /dev/sda1 Command (m for help): a Partition number (1-6): 1 Command (m for help): w The a command toggles the bootable flag. The w command writes the partition table to disk and exits. Using gparted: Highlight the partition you want to be marked as boot. From the Partation menu, pick Manage Flags. Click on the boot check box... One other note - it usually does not matter what partition is marked as bootable as long as one is... Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Smolt Error
I get the following Errors when I run Smolt -
Send this information to the Smolt server? (y/n) y
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/bin/smoltSendProfile, line 175, in module
timeout=opts.timeout)
File /usr/share/smolt/client/smolt.py, line 421, in send
token = grabber.urlopen(urljoin(smoonURL + /,
'/tokens/token_json?uuid=%s' % self.host.UUID, False))
File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urlgrabber/grabber.py, line 887,
in urlopen
return self._retry(opts, retryfunc, url)
File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urlgrabber/grabber.py, line 848,
in _retry
r = apply(func, (opts,) + args, {})
File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urlgrabber/grabber.py, line 886,
in retryfunc
return URLGrabberFileObject(url, filename=None, opts=opts)
File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urlgrabber/grabber.py, line 1004,
in __init__
self._do_open()
File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urlgrabber/grabber.py, line 1069,
in _do_open
opener = self._get_opener()
File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urlgrabber/grabber.py, line 1060,
in _get_opener
self._opener = CachedOpenerDirector(ssl_factory, *handlers)
File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urlgrabber/grabber.py, line 1315,
in CachedOpenerDirector
opener = ssl_factory.create_opener(*handlers)
File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/urlgrabber/sslfactory.py, line
63, in create_opener
return m2urllib2.build_opener(self.ssl_context, *handlers)
File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/M2Crypto/m2urllib2.py, line 112,
in build_opener
if inspect.isclass(check):
NameError: global name 'inspect' is not defined
Is there a place to file Bugzilla for the above, if needed ?
PS: Complete console output is here:http://pastebin.com/m1b8f1e5
Thanks,
Jay
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Re: Unconventional F10 installation
john wendel wrote: I'd like to install F10 on a tiny box that has only a compact flash disk (ide interface) and a network interface. I tried cobbler, but it died with some strange python runtime error, so a network install is out (I'm too lazy to learn how to setup a PXE server). Is it possible to do an install by running the installer as a regular program? If I can't use the installer, can I move the CF disk to another F10 box and just copy the installation files. Is there any reason this won't work? After the files are copied, is there anything needed besides a grub install? I would start by installing the livecd tools and treating the CF as if it were a USB stick. If you can tell your box to boot off it that should solve the problem. You *might* be able to just dd the netinstall CD to the CF, but that will write over the partition table and really mess it up, so the livecd tools are far better. All assuming you can boot off the CF at all. Alternative: for about $10 newegg will sell you a box which holds a 2-1/2 laptop drive and plugs into USB. You can write the install on the disk and put it back in the box later. That works really well, although it's far less convenient than booting off the CF. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: unlock utility for linux
Antonio Olivares wrote: --- On Fri, 3/13/09, Mikkel L. Ellertson mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote: I don't think hdparm is going to help if you do not know the password. I did a Google search, and came up with a link that may help - but it is a windows program. http://www.hddunlock.com/ It is supposed to destructively unlock the drive - is other words, you lose all the data on the drive. But that should not be a problem in this case. Those guys charge for it. :(, it is not an OPEN SOURCE solution. I thought you could download and try it for free. As long as you only need it for a one time fix... Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: panini - tool for creating perspective views
Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: Not sure when it's right practice, I found interesting (for me and maybe for others too) program panini: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pvqt/ I made .spec, icon and .desktop file for it, and RPMS/SRPMS packages for F9 and F10. They are at: http://hanzlici.cz/packages/fedora/panini/ I hope they maybe useful for someone. Sounds useful, maybe you will be the package maintainer for FC11 ;-) Or you can probably get it on rpmfusion, which makes it widely available. Anyway, thanks for the software. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: panini - tool for creating perspective views
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote: Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: Not sure when it's right practice, I found interesting (for me and maybe for others too) program panini: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pvqt/ I made .spec, icon and .desktop file for it, and RPMS/SRPMS packages for F9 and F10. They are at: http://hanzlici.cz/packages/fedora/panini/ I hope they maybe useful for someone. Sounds useful, maybe you will be the package maintainer for FC11 ;-) Or you can probably get it on rpmfusion, which makes it widely available. Anyway, thanks for the software. I use Hugin because it was already available but if someone wants to get panini in the standard repo's I'd love it. Richard -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Smolt Error
Jay Mistry wrote: I get the following Errors when I run Smolt - Is there a place to file Bugzilla for the above, if needed ? Yes in http://bugzilla.redhat.com Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: gdm chooser config side effect warning
Tom Horsley wrote: I decided to try the prescription from the thread on gdm chooser for turning off the user list: GCONFSYS=$(gconftool-2 --get-default-source) gconftool-2 --config-source=$GCONFSYS --set /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list --type bool true It did indeed work, no more stoopid user list, but as a side effect it also utterly ignored my ~/.dmrc file. It always defaults to a GNOME session login, I have to manually pick a different session kind on each login - the choice does not stick. You can set it in /etc/sysconfig/desktop for a system wide default and GDM will honor it. The Fedora Xfce live cd for example, does the following in the kickstart file: --- cat /etc/sysconfig/desktop EOF PREFERRED=/usr/bin/startxfce4 EOF -- You can use switchdesk for GNOME or KDE. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Smolt Error
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Jay Mistry wrote: I get the following Errors when I run Smolt - Is there a place to file Bugzilla for the above, if needed ? Yes in http://bugzilla.redhat.com Rahul This error was on running Smolt on openSUSE 11.1. Prior to using KDE 4.2, there was no problem in Smolt sending the data to the Smolt server. However, after recent updates (to KDE 4.2.1 and Linux Kernel update), I have been getting this error. The Smolt GUI also freezes when I try to send the h/w info thro' GUI. Since it is on openSUSE 11.1 that I am getting the error (have not yet tried running Smolt on Fedora 10), will it be more appropriate to post it to Novell Bugzilla? Jay -- Registered Linux User # 483705 (openSUSE 11.1, Fedora 10) Smolts Profile: http://www.smolts.org/client/show/?uuid=pub_b541a450-9bc1-45fd-beab-d46ee43a0108 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Smolt Error
Jay Mistry wrote: On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Rahul Sundaram Since it is on openSUSE 11.1 that I am getting the error (have not yet tried running Smolt on Fedora 10), will it be more appropriate to post it to Novell Bugzilla? Yeah. Upstream tracker is at https://fedorahosted.org/smolt/ Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10 evolution hangs on imap after a few hours
On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 06:18 +, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/3/14 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com: On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 17:42 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 19:42 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 16:30 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 18:28 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 17:13 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:58:30 -0700 Craig White wrote: Anyone else seeing this from evolution-2.24.5-1.fc10.i386 - after an hour or two on imap connection, I click on a message and the screen simply says 'Formatting message' but never goes further and even closing Evolution seems to be hung (it does a purge of all deleted messages per settings but never actually quits until I force it). Not that specific behaviour, but evolution is pretty much impossible to leave running regardless of which kind of mail connection you use. Something somewhere starts leaking like a sieve and it consumes all resources on the system. I gave up on evolution and started using claws-mail - it is vastly more reliable. I've had my share of Evo problems (and have reported a good few to Bugzilla) but I find the current version (2.24.5) to very reliable. I tend to leave it running permanently. I have two IMAP accounts (including this one on Gmail) and one POP account with less usage. My main complaint is that occasionally the Gmail account becomes inaccessible, but restarting Evo fixes it immediately. I ve already snip I'm quite certain that this is not a GMAIL issue but rather an IMAP issue and I'm currently testing it with TLS turned off to see if that matters. Clearly I have a similar problem to yours if not the same exact problem. I only ever see this with Gmail, not with my other IMAP account. From your description, I think you are seeing a different problem. In my case Evo is not hung and isn't showing Formatting message. It just says there's an error contacting the server when I try to open a message on Gmail. Restarting Evo clears it immediately. This happens a few times per day. Ditto, but using Thunderbird and GMail/IMAP. Every so often I come into work to find Thunderbird prompting for my Gmail password. When I supply it, I get a message saying imap.googlemail.com is not a valid IMAP4 server. - a thunderbird restart cures this. It was fairly clear to me that this is a problem with Gmail and not Evolution, and now you have effectively confirmed it. The fact that it's so easy to correct (even if it *is* Gmail's fault) is why I reported it to the Evo BZ. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f10 annoying bugs/enhancements: chooser
François Patte wrote: I would like the chooser in French Set the systemwide default locale in /etc/sysconfig/i18n: LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: invalid context: httpd_sys_content_rw_t
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 02:45:43 -0400, Braden McDaniel bra...@endoframe.com wrote: That makes the type httpd_user_content_t, which doesn't let httpd write to the directory. Using chcon -t to change the type to httpd_user_content_rw_t does the trick, though. Thanks. You really want to use semanage to make the changes permanent. chcon is OK for quick tests, but if you don't use semanage, then restorecon won't know about the change and the next time that file gets checked during a relabel, it will get its context changed back again. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is kpager available for KDE 4.2 under F10?
Dean S. Messing wrote: 1) How do I easily revert (rollback) to the current packages if these updates break my system? Is there an easy way short of hand de-installing each package and re-installing the current ones? The easiest way I know of is to rpm -Uvh --oldpackage the list of 33 packages (with full file names or URLs for each). 2a) Which packages do I need to install to test the fix of pager? kdebase-workspace, but it'll also need at least newer kdelibs and kdebase-runtime, probably more newer stuff. 2b) Will a subset of the updates-testing packages be compatible with my current up-to-date installation? Yes, the problem is always to know what the subset is. ;-) And by the way, kde* may not be it. You have been warned. We're going to push 4.2.1 out to stable shortly, it may be worth waiting if you're nervous about trying out updates-testing. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: unlock utility for linux
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 12:49:02 +, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote: Some day someone will write a fast spreading virus that locks a lot of hard disks and the vendors will think harder about the problem although I'm still hoping that they'll think about it *before* something bad happens as some of the BIOS and firmware people have. I think one reason end users don't care about their machine's security is that they don't pay anywhere the full cost of what happens when their machine is compromised. Getting their disk locked a few times and having to pay someone just to get the hardware back without any data, would be a good motivator to start caring. With the malware business being the way it is now, I don't think it is likely to happen any more. The people that can do this would lose a good chunk of money in both the short and long run by doing that. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Shell confusion
Matthew Flaschen wrote: You should not run GUI apps under a root shell. Do: sudo gedit or better yet: sudoedit /etc/the_config.ext May I suggest: gedit sftp://r...@localhost/etc/foo.conf as an alternative? :-) Of course this only works if you have sshd running, but it avoids running the whole GUI app as root. That works with all editors using gio/gvfs or the old gnome-vfs (e.g. gedit) or KIO (KWrite, Kate etc.). Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Shared /boot partition?
Bill Davidsen writes: I have to set up a machine to boot both 32 and 64 bit Fedora (or RHEL if I wish) and while I know how to do it with separate partitions and copy information from one grub.conf to the other so I can choose at boot time, I was wondering if I could share a /boot partition between 32 and 64 bit installs. It would make life a *lot* easier if I could. Although I see no reason why this can't be done, you're going to confuse yum when you use it to install updated kernels. It'll find entries in grub.conf that reference kernels for the other system. This will probably confuse the code that automatically uninstalls older code. Setting this issue aside, install the first system without a separate boot partition, so /boot lives on its root. Now, install the second system, with a separate /boot partition. Temporary mount the first system's root partition, and copy over the contents of it's boot to the separate boot partition, and update it's grub.conf accordingly. Boot back into the first system, remove it's /boot, and mount the new /boot partition in it's place, and update it's fstab. pgpIDPQbXuXHr.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: NetworkManager at boot-time
Timothy Murphy wrote: Does anyone have NM under Fedora-10 making a WiFi connection before login? If so, what precisely did you do? (I tried a couple of suggestions I saw, but neither of them worked, possibly because I did not implement them properly.) There is a checkbox in the applet for start connection at boot but AFAIK it does nothing, at least on my FC9 and FC10 laptops, just doesn't happen. If you need connection at boot you have to do it in the network config I believe. At any rate that's where I do it, so the connection doesn't restart every time a login takes place. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Sharing yum between several machines
Timothy Murphy wrote: Basically, I would like a system where yum looks first in a /common/yum/ directory NFS-mounted on several machines, and if it does not find what it is looking for then it goes to a mirror as before, and adds what it finds to /common/yum/ as well as installing it on the machine in question. Does yum have such a facility? I googled for yum several machines but all the solutions suggested, eg setting up a local mirror, seemed to me excessive for my purposes. That's the way I do it here. I have a pair of scripts which handle it. The first mounts the master copy as /mnt/cache and creates symbolic links in /var/cache/yum to the rpm files. Then the upgrade is run, and the backup script first lists which files have changed, and then uses rsync to backup the changes. I found this was more reliable than NFS mounting, due to possible conflicts and also laptops being updated over less than perfect connections. Note that doing this way does not delete old copies of the packages, which may or may not be desirable. I have a script which finds the deleted packages and backs them up by moving them, that way I have older stuff should I need it for some reason. If you have solid networking and don't need the old packages you can just NFS mount /var/cache/yum (don't run multiple upgrades at the same time). -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: f10 annoying bugs/enhancements: chooser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 14/03/2009 16:37, Kevin Kofler a écrit : François Patte wrote: I would like the chooser in French Set the systemwide default locale in /etc/sysconfig/i18n: LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 It is like this, but I have Enter your login name in the chooser Don't know why other things are in French: Langues Session (this one is not meaningful! - -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél. +33 (0)1 4286 2413 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkm723QACgkQdE6C2dhV2JXhfQCfZlN4KM5DyihxjDcQoq74GoQ4 eBYAoJxnrD7o/dKOLeIjdazDaQjjrAAl =TByM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Laptop: Hard drive wakes up every 5-10 seconds
Kevin Kofler wrote: Michael Cronenworth wrote: Why would Linux be waking up every 5 to 10 seconds to write to the disk when I am sitting at my desktop or sitting at the login screen? (i.e. No programs running. Only 40 total wakeups seen in powertop) - Seagate 320gig SATA - XFS filesystem, relatime mount option enabled - link_power_management_policy set to min_power - vm.dirty_writeback_centisecs is set to 1500 I even unmounted /boot (default ext3) but that did not change anything. Every 5 to 10 seconds I see the HDD light flash and sometimes I hear a very faint beeping like the drive is waking up or powering off, whichever it is doing. Try tweaking your hdparm settings. Adding this to your rc.local might help: /sbin/hdparm -S 255 /dev/sda /sbin/hdparm -B 255 /dev/sda I think the O.P. was trying not to spin up the drive so often, not keep it running to pull the battery down... setting the filesystem flush and /proc/sys/vm/dirty* values to be reluctant to write will halp here, and allow powersave (-B) with a low value is more likely to be what is wanted. NOTE: setting the flush time to a high value leaves data in memory and not on the drive, use of a manual sync command is desirable if you modify critical data! -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: NetworkManager at boot-time
Bill Davidsen wrote: There is a checkbox in the applet for start connection at boot but AFAIK it does nothing, at least on my FC9 and FC10 laptops, just doesn't happen. If you need connection at boot you have to do it in the network config I believe. At any rate that's where I do it, so the connection doesn't restart every time a login takes place. I'm running Fedora-10 (up-to-date). Going to KDE=Administration=Network Configuration I click on eth1, my WiFi device, and go to Edit. All the checkboxes including Activate device when computer starts Allow all users to enable and disable the device are ticked. But when I re-boot, the WiFi device is briefly activated (as shown by the light on the PCMCIA device) though it does not connect. Then it goes off until I logon, when (if I am lucky) it comes on again and now connects to my AP. Are you saying that your experience is in some way different to this? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: unlock utility for linux
On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:42:23 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote: Someone locked it up and the warranty on the disk is gone, so I could get to keep the disk, but the catch is to reset it/unlock it. Maybe DBAN would do it. http://www.dban.org/ It's supposed to remove *everything*, and on an ordinary hard drive takes a few hours. -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Shared /boot partition?
Bill Davidsen venit, vidit, dixit 14.03.2009 16:29: I have to set up a machine to boot both 32 and 64 bit Fedora (or RHEL if I wish) and while I know how to do it with separate partitions and copy information from one grub.conf to the other so I can choose at boot time, I was wondering if I could share a /boot partition between 32 and 64 bit installs. It would make life a *lot* easier if I could. For me the easiest approach is: Have your 32 and 64 bit distros install grub in their respective partitions, not mbr. Have another grub in mbr with a small boot partition. Configure it to chainload the partitions of the distros. That is, you first boot manager let's you choose the distro, and then that boots with it's own boot loader. Cutting down the defult boot delay on them helps quite a bit with this approach ;) Michael -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Importfilter for MS-Works files (*.wps)
Hi all, does somebody know how to process MS-Works files (...wps) by OpenOffice or some other tool in F10? All comments are welcome. Regards Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: unlock utility for linux
Those guys charge for it. :(, it is not an OPEN SOURCE solution. I thought you could download and try it for free. As long as you only need it for a one time fix... Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! -- Yes you can try it out for free, but to actually unlock it, one has to pay $ to them. That is the catch. I hope dban can do it. Otherwise, I shall buy a new hardrive and leave the experiment for later :) Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Disabling mouse taps on Fedora 10 (solved)
| From: Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com | David wrote: | from the CLI (since no X) | | X -configure Interesting that X -help doesn't say anything about this option. Interesting that there is no X(1) manpage. There is no x(1) manpage. There is an Xserver(1) manpage. It calls itself XSERVER(1) but that isn't its name, nor is xserver(1). Its synopsys says that it is invoked as X (with options). But it does not say anything about -configure. There is an Xorg(1) manpage that is distinct from Xserver(1). Its synopsis says that it is invoked as Xorg. It does document a -configure option. xorg.conf(5) does not mention that Xorg -configure might be interesting. It turns out that /usr/bin/X is a symlink to /usr/bin/Xorg. There does not seem to be an executable file called Xserver Rather a mess. | The problem is that there are ten screens of command line options to be | understood, Yeah. Xorg -help prints 115 lines to stderr. If you want to see them, you need to use a pager. And do redirection. Like: Xorg 21 | less Very friendly. And it doesn't list -configure | and it gets some of its information by probing, rather than user | input. Much of the information, such as that needed to use --layout, is in the | xorg.conf man page, which makes for a painful process figuring out what | options are needed just to generate xorg.conf with the right stanzas to edit. How do you figure them out? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: perl/Tk
Patrick Dupre wrote: My applications based on perl/Tk do not work anymore properly with fedora 10. Fedora 10 ships Tcl/Tk 8.5. Are your programs compatible with Tk 8.5? Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: creating own RPMs
David Hláčik wrote: So far i was creating packages by using rpmdevtools and rpmbuild itself. I've read about mock , which is chrooted environment for building SRPMs . But does this mock can be applied on spec files? Do i need to prepare srpm package before i can work with mock? If so, this will not help me much. I'm curious why that would be. What makes building src.rpm packages difficult enough that mock wouldn't be any further help? Normally you can just rpmbuild -bs --nodeps package.spec to build a src.rpm, and then use mock to set up the chroot directory for different releases and rebuild the package. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help choosing progams
On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 16:37 -0400, William Case wrote: I am currently using bogofilter with Evolution. Should I go back to spamassasin? Why? Is there some problem with Bogofilter? I switched from SA to BF over a year ago and have been very satisfied with it. SA (at least at that time) had problems with Evo and would tend to leave multiple spamd processes lying around. Also, SA seems to me more suitable for mail servers, while BF is more lightweight. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help choosing progams
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 16:37:57 -0400 William Case wrote: I am willing to try MythTV (or other) if they have fixed what used to be a rather complicated installation process. I mainly just want to watch TV on my monitor (22 Samsung LCD) with my new Hauppage WinTV-HVR 1800. Should I change to MythTV? I've never used any TV programs, but I note that the rpmfusion repos now contain MythTV, so perhaps installation is just a matter of a yum install these days? I am currently using bogofilter with Evolution. I use bogofilter because it is something like 3000 times faster than spamassasin (for me, anyway). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Help choosing progams
Hi Patrick; On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 16:21 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 16:37 -0400, William Case wrote: I am currently using bogofilter with Evolution. Should I go back to spamassasin? Why? Is there some problem with Bogofilter? I switched from SA to BF over a year ago and have been very satisfied with it. SA (at least at that time) had problems with Evo and would tend to leave multiple spamd processes lying around. Also, SA seems to me more suitable for mail servers, while BF is more lightweight. No, no problem with bogofilter. But I know that the developers have been doing some work on spamassasin. I have a new system and thought I might check if something was new/better on the spamassasin front. I have already installed bogofilter. -- Regards Bill Fedora 10, Gnome 2.24.3 Evo.2.24.5, Emacs 22.3.1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to re-lock ssh private key?
Gordon Messmer yiny...@eburg.com writes: Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Gordon Messmer yiny...@eburg.com writes: I think you're confused by the fact that the identities are still listed by ssh-add -l. They're certainly deactivated and require a passphrase in order to be used again (tested in GNOME 2.24). No, I'm confused by the fact that I can still ssh to remote machines without entering my key-unlocking passphrase. ;-) Like I said, this works properly for me under GNOME 2.24 (F10). Since you didn't include any details of your own setup, I can't comment on why it's not working for you the way that it should. I thought I'd posted the details earlier -- if not here they are. F10 64-bit x86 install with daily yum updates. Anything else you need to convince yourself this is a problem? -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht http://www.full-steam.org/ (ipv6-only) You may need to config 6to4 to see the above pages. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: LAN addresses in IPv6
Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net writes: Anthony Messina wrote: look into radvd Thanks, I am looking into radvd . Unfortunately, its exact purpose is not clear to me. Is it an essential part of an IPv6 system? this site is helpful: http://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/fedora/ipv6-tunnel.html I had looked at this. Unfortunately it fell into the category of documents intended for somebody very different to myself, possibly belonging to a different species. Eg there is some discussion of radvd.conf , but it never said that one should install the radvd package. (It seems to be assumed that everyone knows that radvd is.) Also I have no idea what to substitute for Y...Y in prefix :::::/64 # advertise net 0 of 65536 Feel free to send questions and criticisms to the address at the bottom of the page. ;-) The part of the address in the radvd.conf is the address for the net-block that your upstream ipv6-capable ISP (or ipv6 tunnel broker) assigned to you. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht http://www.full-steam.org/ (ipv6-only) You may need to config 6to4 to see the above pages. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
No bttv driver ??
Hi; I am trying to install mythtv but there is no bttv driver. lsmod |grep bttv returns nothing yum list available returns nothing Where is bttv? -- Regards Bill Fedora 10, Gnome 2.24.3 Evo.2.24.5, Emacs 22.3.1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No bttv driver ??
2009/3/14 William Case billli...@rogers.com: Hi; I am trying to install mythtv but there is no bttv driver. lsmod |grep bttv returns nothing yum list available returns nothing Where is bttv? In the Kernel, but you haven't loaded it? [sjs...@cc-6910p ~]$ locate bttv /lib/modules/2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.x86_64/kernel/drivers/media/video/bt8xx/bttv.ko /lib/modules/2.6.27.15-170.2.24.fc10.x86_64/kernel/drivers/media/video/bt8xx/bttv.ko /lib/modules/2.6.27.19-170.2.35.fc10.x86_64/kernel/drivers/media/video/bt8xx/bttv.ko [sjs...@cc-6910p ~]$ rpm -qif /lib/modules/2.6.27.19-170.2.35.fc10.x86_64/kernel/drivers/media/video/bt8xx/bttv.ko Name: kernel Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 2.6.27.19 Vendor: Fedora Project Release : 170.2.35.fc10 Build Date: Mon 23 Feb 2009 18:24:54 GMT -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No bttv driver ??
Hi; On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 23:31 +, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/3/14 William Case billli...@rogers.com: Hi; I am trying to install mythtv but there is no bttv driver. lsmod |grep bttv returns nothing yum list available returns nothing Where is bttv? In the Kernel, but you haven't loaded it? [sjs...@cc-6910p ~]$ locate bttv /lib/modules/2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.x86_64/kernel/drivers/media/video/bt8xx/bttv.ko /lib/modules/2.6.27.15-170.2.24.fc10.x86_64/kernel/drivers/media/video/bt8xx/bttv.ko /lib/modules/2.6.27.19-170.2.35.fc10.x86_64/kernel/drivers/media/video/bt8xx/bttv.ko [sjs...@cc-6910p ~]$ rpm -qif /lib/modules/2.6.27.19-170.2.35.fc10.x86_64/kernel/drivers/media/video/bt8xx/bttv.ko Name: kernel Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 2.6.27.19 Vendor: Fedora Project Release : 170.2.35.fc10 Build Date: Mon 23 Feb 2009 18:24:54 GMT -- Sam Yes, its there. But shouldn't it load automatically? Used modprobe, but I forget how to set that up for every boot. -- Regards Bill Fedora 10, Gnome 2.24.3 Evo.2.24.5, Emacs 22.3.1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No bttv driver ??
| From: William Case billli...@rogers.com | Hi; | | On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 23:31 +, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: | 2009/3/14 William Case billli...@rogers.com: | I am trying to install mythtv but there is no bttv driver. | | lsmod |grep bttv returns nothing | yum list available returns nothing | | Where is bttv? | | In the Kernel, but you haven't loaded it? | Yes, its there. But shouldn't it load automatically? | | Used modprobe, but I forget how to set that up for every boot. Your tuner is WinTV-HVR 1800 according to a previous post. Are you sure that bttv is the right module? See http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppage_HVR-1800 The analogue side appears not to be supported by drivers in the official kernel tree. See also http://www.hauppauge.com/Pages/faq/support_faq_linux.html http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-1800 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: LAN addresses in IPv6
Timothy Murphy wrote: Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Thanks, I am looking into radvd . Unfortunately, its exact purpose is not clear to me. Is it an essential part of an IPv6 system? this site is helpful: http://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/fedora/ipv6-tunnel.html I had looked at this. Unfortunately it fell into the category of documents intended for somebody very different to myself, possibly belonging to a different species. Eg there is some discussion of radvd.conf , but it never said that one should install the radvd package. (It seems to be assumed that everyone knows that radvd is.) Also I have no idea what to substitute for Y...Y in prefix :::::/64 # advertise net 0 of 65536 Feel free to send questions and criticisms to the address at the bottom of the page. ;-) Thanks for your comment. Apologies for my slightly rude remarks about your document. I shall read it again with more diligence. But I have more or less decided to put IPv6 on the long finger. I'm actually running Centos-5.2 on my server, with shorewall, and it seems that shorewall6 is unlikely to be supported until Centos-6 comes out. I should point out that Centos 6 may not come out until 10Q4! So you are putting a long wait. I don't want to run iptables directly, as I am not confident that I would get it right; and I don't know of any alternative to shorewall which is available under Centos and which supports IPv6. After I finish with my current FC9 project that includes shorewall6, I will take a look at 6wall for Centos 5. The part of the address in the radvd.conf is the address for the net-block that your upstream ipv6-capable ISP (or ipv6 tunnel broker) assigned to you. OK, I'll try putting that in. At present radvd fails, with the error message: helen radvd[4958]: IPv6 forwarding seems to be disabled, exiting This is set in /etc/sysconfig/network. See /usr/share/doc/initscripts-8.45.19.EL/sysconfig.txt for more information. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No bttv driver ??
Thanks; On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 21:18 -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote: | From: William Case billli...@rogers.com | Hi; | | On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 23:31 +, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: | 2009/3/14 William Case billli...@rogers.com: | I am trying to install mythtv but there is no bttv driver. | | lsmod |grep bttv returns nothing | yum list available returns nothing | | Where is bttv? | | In the Kernel, but you haven't loaded it? | Yes, its there. But shouldn't it load automatically? | | Used modprobe, but I forget how to set that up for every boot. Your tuner is WinTV-HVR 1800 according to a previous post. Yes Are you sure that bttv is the right module? No, I am not sure. See http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppage_HVR-1800 The analogue side appears not to be supported by drivers in the official kernel tree. I got the bttv requirement from the mythtv wiki re: installation. I didn't see the links you have given me. See also http://www.hauppauge.com/Pages/faq/support_faq_linux.html http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-1800 Its getting late, I am getting frustrated so I will try again in the morning. I appreciate you setting me straight. -- Regards Bill Fedora 10, Gnome 2.24.3 Evo.2.24.5, Emacs 22.3.1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Boot problem on F8 system
I have a Fedora 8 server that I recently ran pre-upgrade on in preparation to moving to Fedora 10. After pre-upgrade ran the server was rebooted and will not start. The symptoms are as follows: Server boots and detects all disks (it has 6 scsi disks running software raid). Boot up continues and at the point where Grub should run I get the output: grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub this goes on forever, filling screen after screen and gradually slows down and down. Has anyone seen this happen before, or know what might cause it? I can't find any reference via Google I am working on the assumption that the master boot record is screwed up in some way, so want to try repairing it. But no luck there as I can't mount the root file system. I have booted using an F8 rescue CD and when the installer tries to detect existing partitions it fail. No partitions are found. When I drop through to a command prompt, all of the disk show up fine and I can use mdadm -Ac partitions -m X /dev/mdX to assemble and run all of the raid partitions (boot, swap, root). From there I can mount /boot and its contents are available to read and write. I cannot however work out how to remount / as / is in a logical volume on md2 and VolGroup00 does not show up in /dev This leaves me without the grub-install command, so I can't re-install grub. I have downloaded a live spin of F8 and will see if I can boot from that, but I am out of blank CDs at the moment. So any suggestions about how I could mount the / partition would be appreciated. Langdon -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10 evolution hangs on imap after a few hours
On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 22:22 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 05:35 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Craig White wrote: On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 17:13 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:58:30 -0700 Craig White wrote: Anyone else seeing this from evolution-2.24.5-1.fc10.i386 - after an hour or two on imap connection, I click on a message and the screen simply says 'Formatting message' but never goes further and even closing Evolution seems to be hung (it does a purge of all deleted messages per settings but never actually quits until I force it). Not that specific behaviour, but evolution is pretty much impossible to leave running regardless of which kind of mail connection you use. Something somewhere starts leaking like a sieve and it consumes all resources on the system. I gave up on evolution and started using claws-mail - it is vastly more reliable. I've been using evolution for many, many years and it has its bad versions, its very bad versions and some versions work pretty well. I share this history, but ... I experienced the evolution in FC10 to be amongst the worst and unstable versions of evolution ever ;) My conclusion: I stopped using evolution and switched to using thunderbird. It's been pretty awful in Fedora 10 - I suppose that most aren't using evolution these days because there aren't many griping about it. for what it's worth, since I turned off TLS on IMAP, I haven't hung yet still haven't hung since I turned off TLS and Evolution has been up and running for at least 13 hours now. I couldn't get more than 2 hours before with TLS turned on before it hung for the last few weeks. I'll probably run another day with it turned off to see if it hangs tomorrow. Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10 evolution hangs on imap after a few hours
On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 10:50 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Every so often I come into work to find Thunderbird prompting for my Gmail password. When I supply it, I get a message saying imap.googlemail.com is not a valid IMAP4 server. - a thunderbird restart cures this. It was fairly clear to me that this is a problem with Gmail and not Evolution, and now you have effectively confirmed it. The fact that it's so easy to correct (even if it *is* Gmail's fault) is why I reported it to the Evo BZ. I surely believe that there are some timeout issues occasionally with Gmail and don't dispute what you are suggesting but in the past two days, since I have turned off TLS, Evolution has not hung on my IMAP server. I recognize that it isn't possible to use Gmail/IMAP without SSL but I strongly suspect that some of your problems are rooted in SSL/TLS with Evolution. I may play around with adding my gmail account to Evolution after I go another day without SSL/TLS in Evolution to see if it hangs but it hasn't hung on me in the last day and half since I turned it off. Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
[Resolved] Re: Boot problem on F8 system
Langdon Stevenson wrote: I have a Fedora 8 server that I recently ran pre-upgrade on in preparation to moving to Fedora 10. After pre-upgrade ran the server was rebooted and will not start. The symptoms are as follows: Server boots and detects all disks (it has 6 scsi disks running software raid). Boot up continues and at the point where Grub should run I get the output: grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub grub this goes on forever, filling screen after screen and gradually slows down and down. Has anyone seen this happen before, or know what might cause it? I can't find any reference via Google Resolution to this problem: 1. Boot from a Live Spin (I now love Live Spins) 2. Use the Logical Volume instructions here: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=214137 to mount the root and boot partitions then to re-install grub 3. Reboot server and all is well Thanks to the person who posted the solution in that thread. I figured the steps out myself independently, than stumbled across the thread (typical!). The steps are exactly the same as I used, so I thought that it was worth linking them here. Now to get on with the F10 upgrade. Langdon -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] Password for fedora livecd
Just a commline passwd sudo -- Fedora-livecd-list mailing list Fedora-livecd-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list
Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] Password for fedora livecd
Use /sbin/grub-md5-crypt to create a password hash. Then, in your ks file add a line like this... rootpw --iscrypted \$1\$vLOQS9GY\$HDQlZbYtdQ0/LT3RKxjD80 (where all the crazy text is the result of running grub-md5-crypt). -- cj -- From: prakash srinivasan asprakash...@rediffmail.com To: fedora-livecd-list@redhat.com Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 9:45:14 AM Subject: [Fedora-livecd-list] Password for fedora livecd Hello all, I added/removed some packages created a fedora customized livecd using by the livecd-fedora-9-desktop.ks and livecd-fedora-9-base.ks files. When I am trying to access the system settings or any superuser's applications, its asking root password. I did not set any root password in the .ks file and I tried root,, fedora toor also. But no use. Somebody already posted the same query in this mailing list. But I did not find any proper reply for that query. Help me to disable the root password or how to reset the root password by editing my customized .iso. Regards, Prakash. -- Fedora-livecd-list mailing list Fedora-livecd-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list
Re: [Fedora-livecd-list] Password for fedora livecd
hello, take a look at fedora-live-base.ks in http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=spin-kickstarts.git;a=tree you will notice a line like this passwd -d liveuser /dev/null to delete the password ie. having no password for user liveuser On 14 Mar 2009 13:45:14 -, prakash srinivasan asprakash...@rediffmail.com wrote: Hello all, I added/removed some packages created a fedora customized livecd using by the livecd-fedora-9-desktop.ks and livecd-fedora-9-base.ks files. When I am trying to access the system settings or any superuser's applications, its asking root password. I did not set any root password in the .ks file and I tried root,, fedora toor also. But no use. Somebody already posted the same query in this mailing list. But I did not find any proper reply for that query. Help me to disable the root password or how to reset the root password by editing my customized .iso. Regards, Prakash. -- Fedora-livecd-list mailing list Fedora-livecd-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list
Re: This Weekend
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Rahul Sundaram wrote: about it but I am curious as to why these particular features are being picked among the many many new features planned for Fedora 11. I think, we need to make sure we are picking the right features to focus on, first. We discussed this stuff publicly in both of the last two Marketing Meetings on IRC, so if you read over the logs, you will have seen some conversation about them there. Following up on those IRC conversations, Paul and I chatted about it a bit over the phone privately. Then I put up a first-pass of the in-depth features page for everyone to take a look at on the Marketing list. See Paul's previous reply for more details. --Max -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: This Weekend
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Max Spevack wrote: about it but I am curious as to why these particular features are being picked among the many many new features planned for Fedora 11. I think, we need to make sure we are picking the right features to focus on, first. We discussed this stuff publicly in both of the last two Marketing Meetings on IRC, so if you read over the logs, you will have seen some conversation about them there. Following up on those IRC conversations, Paul and I chatted about it a bit over the phone privately. Then I put up a first-pass of the in-depth features page for everyone to take a look at on the Marketing list. See Paul's previous reply for more details. Given all of the context now available in this thread, Rahul, do you: a) feel like we were clear enough about doing this in public? (For the record, I believe that we were very clear about it in the context of the marketing meetings, but if you hadn't heard about it until Jack's email, then something fell through the cracks.) b) feel like there is anything either wrong, or missing, from the list? --Max -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Event Report on Fedora Talk in OSI Days Chennai
Hi Everyone I am extremely thrilled and pleased to announce that my talk in OSI Days was a real good success. The talk was quite short and I started off with A Survey on how many in the audience have heard about Fedora and there was quite a good number and then I started off with the following 1. What is Fedora 2. What's the Speciality of the Fedora Project 3. What role does Redhat Play in contributing to fedora. 4. What's the role I play in Fedora 5. What's the advantage in Contributing to Fedora and i asked interested people to get my email ID offline to know more on how to contribute and I assured them that i could help them to get into World Of Open Source Software through Fedora. 6. Question answers Then people when i got off the stage asked for my email IDs and have asked me to give talks in LUG and lot of people had questions like i want to do some programming but i am not sure how do i do it in Ubuntu these sort of questions came up and then i took that opportunity to tell them that i would help you do that by asking them to install fedora and assured them that they could copy of DVD from me. Lot of students wanted to do projects but they didn't know how to get into Fedora so i answered those questions and have asked them to contact me through email and then i would bring them onto the IRC channels. I have also asked them to log in to #fedora-classroom on the April First Weekend where i would be taking IRC sessions on kernel topics and Virtualization. I strongly feel that this would bring in more users and contributors and I would be giving more talks too in the future. It was a pretty exciting day and i would be sharing some photos soon . Thanks, Cheers, Balaji -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Event Report on Fedora Talk in OSI Days Chennai
Hi Everyone Forgot to mention that i did meet Sriram whos is a fedora ambassaor and was also representing Fedora and was helping out the ILUGC booth. Thanks for your help ! Cheers, Balaji On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Balaji G balajig.f...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone I am extremely thrilled and pleased to announce that my talk in OSI Days was a real good success. The talk was quite short and I started off with A Survey on how many in the audience have heard about Fedora and there was quite a good number and then I started off with the following 1. What is Fedora 2. What's the Speciality of the Fedora Project 3. What role does Redhat Play in contributing to fedora. 4. What's the role I play in Fedora 5. What's the advantage in Contributing to Fedora and i asked interested people to get my email ID offline to know more on how to contribute and I assured them that i could help them to get into World Of Open Source Software through Fedora. 6. Question answers Then people when i got off the stage asked for my email IDs and have asked me to give talks in LUG and lot of people had questions like i want to do some programming but i am not sure how do i do it in Ubuntu these sort of questions came up and then i took that opportunity to tell them that i would help you do that by asking them to install fedora and assured them that they could copy of DVD from me. Lot of students wanted to do projects but they didn't know how to get into Fedora so i answered those questions and have asked them to contact me through email and then i would bring them onto the IRC channels. I have also asked them to log in to #fedora-classroom on the April First Weekend where i would be taking IRC sessions on kernel topics and Virtualization. I strongly feel that this would bring in more users and contributors and I would be giving more talks too in the future. It was a pretty exciting day and i would be sharing some photos soon . Thanks, Cheers, Balaji -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: This Weekend
Max Spevack wrote: Given all of the context now available in this thread, Rahul, do you: a) feel like we were clear enough about doing this in public? (For the record, I believe that we were very clear about it in the context of the marketing meetings, but if you hadn't heard about it until Jack's email, then something fell through the cracks.) Not your fault. I just haven't been attending the marketing meetings or reading through the logs much. b) feel like there is anything either wrong, or missing, from the list? Not sure which ones to highlight more but I can go with the following broader themes and categorize the features including but not limited to the key things in the feature list. * Desktop - Presto (delta rpms), Ext4, 20 second bootup, Guest user account by default in GNOME (via xguest), KMS improvements (Intel by default which means among other things pretty graphics via plymouth, Nvidia - easy on, AMD already supported in Fedora 10 but improved in Fedora 11) Improvements in system-config-printer at http://cyberelk.net/tim/2009/02/03/screenshots-system-config-printer-11/ SELinux troubleshooter has been partially rewritten in C and the separate boot service has been dropped resulting in much improved performance http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/26053.html Automatic fonts Volume Control, Nouveau (instead of nv 2d driver. 3d support is disable since it is not mature enough) IBus instead of SCIM input method by default, ABRT (automatic desktop crash handler), DeviceKit DRI2 (GL + compiz essentially), rpm 4.7 ((much improved performance and memory footprint). ), Firefox 3.1, Thunderbird 3.0, gnome 2.26, kde 4.2, xfce 4.6, x server 1.6. * Developers - Windows cross compiler (Mingw + lots of cross compiled libraries which is unique), Eclipse profiling tools, debuginfofs, archer (gdb devel branch) . Python 2.6, GCC 4.4, tigervnc * Security - Svirt, stronger hashes, dns security extensions, cups policykit integration, dbus policy changes, system services security daemon, fingerprint improvements, pam gdm changes. * Enterprise - active directory interoperability via openchange, control groups, power management improvements, minimal anaconda installation, minimal text installer. Anaconda storage rewrite. Ext4 is important for enterprise too. GFS2, Much of developer and security stuff is of interest here as well. Supporter arch changes and esp kernel changes http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/2009/02/09/fedora-kernel-packaging/ * Virtualization - Improve console (screenshots at http://blog.wikichoon.com/2009/02/virt-manager-in-fedora-11-new-vm-wizard.html) , vnc auth, KVM PCI device assignment, svirt Now If I had to pick a few, I would highlight these in no particular order. They show leadership, uniqueness and ability to drive fundamental changes throughout many upstream projects and distribution level improvements as well. Highlights: Ext4, presto, guest user account, 20 sec startup, volume control, new virt-manager with improved console, system-config-printer changes, openchange, control groups, windows cross compiler, desktop crash handler, KMS improvements, Nouveau by default, openchange, svirt, new text mode installer, rpm 4.7 Hope that helps. Rahul -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: This Weekend
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Now If I had to pick a few, I would highlight these in no particular order. They show leadership, uniqueness and ability to drive fundamental changes throughout many upstream projects and distribution level improvements as well. All of these get highlighted. Some in the talking points, some in the release summary, some in the in-depth profiles that this thread was discussing earlier, some in blog posts, and some in speeches (I'll be talking about 20 second boot and presto tomorrow at Chemnitzer Linux Tage), and some in Paul's interviews with media. Part of what I see as one of Fedora Marketing's goals this release cycles is to try spreading our feature discussions around different delivery mechanisms, and see how it works. There are a lot of ways to spread our message. If we get through this first set of in-depth features and want to add more, we certainly will. --Max -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: This Weekend
Max Spevack wrote: Part of what I see as one of Fedora Marketing's goals this release cycles is to try spreading our feature discussions around different delivery mechanisms, and see how it works. There are a lot of ways to spread our message. If we get through this first set of in-depth features and want to add more, we certainly will. Agreed. It would be useful for developers or people who understand the features in depth to blog about it more, one by one. Red Hat Marketing could help here a lot. Rahul -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: [fedora-india] Re: Event Report on Fedora Talk in OSI Days Chennai
Hi Magesh balaji really did a great job at the OSI TechDays today... nice that he told about contributing to the fedora community and so on that was really nice Hey Thanks a lot and sorry we couldn't meet up today :( Thanks, Cheers, Balaji On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 8:06 PM, magesh kkmagesh...@gmail.com wrote: I am extremely thrilled and pleased to announce that my talk in OSI Days was a real good success. The talk was quite short and I started off with A Survey on how many in the audience have heard about Fedora and there was quite a good number and then I started off with the following 1. What is Fedora 2. What's the Speciality of the Fedora Project 3. What role does Redhat Play in contributing to fedora. 4. What's the role I play in Fedora 5. What's the advantage in Contributing to Fedora and i asked interested people to get my email ID offline to know more on how to contribute and I assured them that i could help them to get into World Of Open Source Software through Fedora. 6. Question answers balaji really did a great job at the OSI TechDays today... nice that he told about contributing to the fedora community and so on that was really nice magesh Life is just tryin out things to see if they work http://magesh.geexhq.com/ http://twitter.com/mageshcse ___ Fedora-india mailing list fedora-in...@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: This Weekend
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 06:31:22PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Max Spevack wrote: Given all of the context now available in this thread, Rahul, do you: a) feel like we were clear enough about doing this in public? (For the record, I believe that we were very clear about it in the context of the marketing meetings, but if you hadn't heard about it until Jack's email, then something fell through the cracks.) Not your fault. I just haven't been attending the marketing meetings or reading through the logs much. b) feel like there is anything either wrong, or missing, from the list? Not sure which ones to highlight more but I can go with the following broader themes and categorize the features including but not limited to the key things in the feature list. [...snip...] This is an exhaustive list, which kind of defeats the point of highlights. However, you are completely correct that these are all very worthy features. We had to choose a small list on which to concentrate, which is the only rational strategy since we're covering them with limited resources. Part of the reason we choose highlights and build stories around them, rather than trying to do this with every single feature, is that Red Hat Marketing lends substantial support to our campaign around each release. They also have finite resources with which to do this work and have asked me repeatedly for the past few releases to center in on a handful of features that have immediate broad appeal or compelling stories we can build around them. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgpLTq8Aljaq0.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: This Weekend
Paul W. Frields wrote: On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 06:31:22PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Max Spevack wrote: Given all of the context now available in this thread, Rahul, do you: a) feel like we were clear enough about doing this in public? (For the record, I believe that we were very clear about it in the context of the marketing meetings, but if you hadn't heard about it until Jack's email, then something fell through the cracks.) Not your fault. I just haven't been attending the marketing meetings or reading through the logs much. b) feel like there is anything either wrong, or missing, from the list? Not sure which ones to highlight more but I can go with the following broader themes and categorize the features including but not limited to the key things in the feature list. [...snip...] This is an exhaustive list, which kind of defeats the point of highlights. However, you are completely correct that these are all very worthy features. We had to choose a small list on which to concentrate, which is the only rational strategy since we're covering them with limited resources. Part of the reason we choose highlights and build stories around them, rather than trying to do this with every single feature, is that Red Hat Marketing lends substantial support to our campaign around each release. They also have finite resources with which to do this work and have asked me repeatedly for the past few releases to center in on a handful of features that have immediate broad appeal or compelling stories we can build around them. Yes, I understand that which is why I provided both a categorization of features that I think will make it easier for a audience to gain a broad overview but also specifically listed highlights at the end which I think deserves more press. Rahul -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Why glxgears Is Slower with Kernel Mode Setting, Why It Doesn't Matter
Hi http://osnews.com/story/21133/Why_glxgears_Is_Slower_with_Kernel_Mode_Setting_Why_It_Doesn_t_Matter Fedora Project has been on the forefont of development and adoption of kernel mode setting to enhance the desktop linux experience by making fairly invasive infrastructure improvements that affect the interaction between Xorg and the Linux kernel. In the past, one of the common way to test Xorg performance has been to use glxgears. While that hasn't been a particular good way to do it ever, the switch to kernel mode setting for Intel drivers ahead of the Fedora 11 Beta release to be available shortly has exposed the fallacy of this. In short, don't use glxgears. There are better methods to assess performance. Rahul -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
Re: Filtering lib provides in XS packages?
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org wrote:
This version seems to work a little better:
# don't provide private Perl libs
%global _use_internal_dependency_generator 0
%global __deploop() while read FILE; do /usr/lib/rpm/rpmdeps -%{1} ${FILE};
done | /bin/sort -u
%global __find_provides /bin/sh -c %{__grep} -v
'%{perl_vendorarch}/.*\\.so$' | %{__deploop P}
%global __find_requires /bin/sh -c %{__deploop R}
This works nicely. I just can't help feeling that there has _got_ to
be a simpler way to do this than embedding this in every non-noarch
package out there.
-Chris
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