Re: GSoC marketing update

2009-03-21 Thread Ricky Zhou
On 2009-03-20 03:50:24 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 Karsten Wade wrote:
  Fortunately, Fedora made the list of mentoring organizations for this
  year's Google Summer of Code[1].
  
  For the next few weeks, final ideas are going to be posted, students
  will look them over, and begin proposing projects.  Mentors work with
  student proposals to improve them -- get the scope and timeline well
  considered, for example.
  
  My marketeer gut says, Get even more proposals and mentors in this
  year, so even if we get fewer student slots in a rescaled GSoC, they
  are the most passionate and dedicated students.
  
  Along those lines, I asked the Ambassadors to keep on the hunt.[2]
  Oh, and to consider being mentors to get some of their development
  ideas completed.
  
  Any other ideas of where else to go and who to ask?
 
 Are we running banner ads for this in the frontpage?
That sounds like a great idea (forwarding this to the fedora-art-list).

Thanks,
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[Bug 486977] Review Request: gnu-free-fonts

2009-03-21 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #16 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2009-03-21 
05:50:58 EDT ---
And now you have another kind of dangling symlink

/etc/fonts/conf.d/60-gnu-free-mono.conf -
/usr/share/fontconfig/conf.avail/gnu-free-mono.conf

Would it be so hard to just use the pattern documented in the official spec
templates instead of exploring every possible broken alternative? This is
getting really old.

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[Bug 486687] Review Request: chisholm-rubbing-fonts - Decorative Sans Serif Font

2009-03-21 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #10 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2009-03-21 
07:27:41 EDT ---
(In reply to comment #9)
 Enjoyed meeting you all too. Very worth while afternoon.
 What about the comments form Nicolas Mailhot? Presumably I need to re-do the
 fontconfig file?

If you want it to actually do something, yet

 Also forgive my ignorance but remind me what/where FAS is again?  

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Joining_the_Fonts_SIG

(I apologize for the long time I spent not checking if this review progressed)

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[Bug 462711] Review Request: Mothanna-fonts - Mothanna-fonts from Arabeyes.org

2009-03-21 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #6 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2009-03-21 
07:28:48 EDT ---
(In reply to comment #5)
 What is the status of this?  

The original submitter needs to take care of the review feedback, or someone
else needs to submit a competing review request

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[Bug 476720] Review Request: beteckna-sfd-fonts - Beteckna fonts

2009-03-21 Thread bugzilla
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Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net changed:

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--- Comment #16 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2009-03-21 
07:56:11 EDT ---
Hi Ankur

Some nitpicking:

1. your common_desc declaration is still using define not global

2. I'm not sure doing %clean after %files is a good idea

3. rpmlint complains of
beteckna-fonts.src: W: mixed-use-of-spaces-and-tabs (spaces: line 31, tab: line
1)

4. rpmlint complains of
beteckna-fonts-common.noarch: W: file-not-utf8
/usr/share/doc/beteckna-fonts-common-0.3/CHANGELOG

(see the gfs font specs for examples of txt file recoding to UTF-8)

5. it seems none of those fonts have normal minuscules. Therefore it'd probably
be better to register them as fantasy not sans-serif in your fontconfig
files

However the rest of the packaging is sane and much better than some of the
stuff I've seen recently and the problems are not worth blocking import

⚶⚶⚶ APPROVED ⚶⚶⚶

Please do consider fixing the remaining small problems however


You can now continue from
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Font_package_lifecycle#3.a


As for the warnings emitted by fontforge during build, they unfortunately point
problems in the original upstream file. You should relay them to the font
author(s) so they get fixed.

If you're interested in learning some font creation stuff, you can try to fix
them yourself, and create a patch for upstream. eimai and moyogo on #dejavu
will usually be helpful to people discovering fontforge.

⇒ REASSIGNING now the review is done

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[Bug 489117] Review Request: tulrich-tuffy-fonts - Generic sans font

2009-03-21 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #3 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2009-03-21 
08:11:04 EDT ---
(In reply to comment #2)
 I updated the existing wiki page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Tuffy_fonts
 (is this level of detail ok with you? - I am still new to font packaging)

This is good enough (someday we'll figure how to create pretty font previews)

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[Bug 476720] Review Request: beteckna-sfd-fonts - Beteckna fonts

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--- Comment #17 from Ankur Sinha sanjay.an...@gmail.com  2009-03-21 10:25:29 
EDT ---
New Package CVS Request
===
Package Name: beteckna-fonts
Short Description: Beteckna sans-serif fonts 
Owners: ankursinha
Branches: F-9 F-10
InitialCC: fonts-sig

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[Bug 476720] Review Request: beteckna-sfd-fonts - Beteckna fonts

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[Bug 490791] cjk texts are broken in flash object of webpage.

2009-03-21 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #1 from sangu sangu.fed...@gmail.com  2009-03-21 23:07:02 EDT ---
Fixed in 2.6.99.behdad.20090318-1.fc11.
Thanks.

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[Bug 476720] Review Request: beteckna-sfd-fonts - Beteckna fonts

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--- Comment #18 from Kevin Fenzi ke...@tummy.com  2009-03-22 01:49:21 EDT ---
cvs done.

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Hello

2009-03-21 Thread Will

Hi,

My name is Will Morris. I thought that I would say hi, and mention some 
of my skills as that is what it says to do. I have an ever growing 
knowledge of HTML and CSS. I am starting to learn how to do shell 
scripting, as well as creating MySQL. I am looking to learn how to 
administer a larger network better than I currently do. I am currently 
running a medium sized home network, and hope to increase the size of. 
If you have any questions please feel free to email me or ask a question 
of me on the mailing list.


Cheers!
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Re: Hello

2009-03-21 Thread Mike McGrath
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009, Will wrote:

 Hi,

 My name is Will Morris. I thought that I would say hi, and mention some of my
 skills as that is what it says to do. I have an ever growing knowledge of HTML
 and CSS. I am starting to learn how to do shell scripting, as well as creating
 MySQL. I am looking to learn how to administer a larger network better than I
 currently do. I am currently running a medium sized home network, and hope to
 increase the size of. If you have any questions please feel free to email me
 or ask a question of me on the mailing list.


We are always in need of css expertise.You may also want to join the
fedora-websites-list to help with the various tasks that come up.

We hang out in #fedora-admin on irc.freenode.net feel free to stop by any
time.

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Another hello

2009-03-21 Thread Tomek Wałkuski
Hi,

my name is Tomek Walkuski. I want to introduce myself and write
something about my skills, responsibilities at day job and so on.

I am administering a few CentOS servers, two of these are under VERY
high load running some Java and MySQL powered applications. One of these
is running quite small Oracle instance. I am also using CentOS in my
Master's degree thesis.

What I want to achieve? Always learn something new (to be more
proficient in Red Hat / CentOS / Fedora and to pass someday RHCE
certificate), give my skills, experience (well...) and knowledge back.

I think sticking to Fedora Infrastructure Team someday would be great
opportunity to get involved in FOSS development. Now I will try to
wander around a little :)

During my free time, I am riding my bike, playing with Ada and Eiffel
languages, doing things.


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[Change Request] Make sure inactive accounts can't auth to other webapps

2009-03-21 Thread Jon Stanley
---
 configs/system/nagios-http.conf.erb |1 +
 configs/web/balancer.conf.erb   |1 +
 configs/web/cacti-secure.conf.erb   |1 +
 configs/web/exclude.conf.erb|1 +
 4 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)

diff --git a/configs/system/nagios-http.conf.erb 
b/configs/system/nagios-http.conf.erb
index e845f48..4c04ccc 100644
--- a/configs/system/nagios-http.conf.erb
+++ b/configs/system/nagios-http.conf.erb
@@ -14,6 +14,7 @@ ScriptAlias   /tac.cgi
/usr/lib64/nagios/cgi-bin/tac.cgi
   Auth_PG_pwd_table people
   Auth_PG_uid_field username
   Auth_PG_pwd_field password
+  Auth_PG_whereclause  and status='active'
 
   require valid-user
 /Location
diff --git a/configs/web/balancer.conf.erb b/configs/web/balancer.conf.erb
index eae1fb4..81212db 100644
--- a/configs/web/balancer.conf.erb
+++ b/configs/web/balancer.conf.erb
@@ -16,6 +16,7 @@ RewriteRule ^/balancer.*/balancer$1 [L]
Auth_PG_pwd_table people
Auth_PG_uid_field username
Auth_PG_pwd_field password
+   Auth_PG_whereclause  and status='active'
Auth_PG_grp_table user_group
Auth_PG_grp_user_field username
Auth_PG_grp_group_field groupname
diff --git a/configs/web/cacti-secure.conf.erb 
b/configs/web/cacti-secure.conf.erb
index f5b909c..3178fb2 100644
--- a/configs/web/cacti-secure.conf.erb
+++ b/configs/web/cacti-secure.conf.erb
@@ -10,6 +10,7 @@
Auth_PG_pwd_table people
Auth_PG_uid_field username
Auth_PG_pwd_field password
+   Auth_PG_whereclause  and status='active'
 
require valid-user
 
diff --git a/configs/web/exclude.conf.erb b/configs/web/exclude.conf.erb
index fd87430..d98dd37 100644
--- a/configs/web/exclude.conf.erb
+++ b/configs/web/exclude.conf.erb
@@ -19,6 +19,7 @@
Auth_PG_pwd_table people
Auth_PG_uid_field username
Auth_PG_pwd_field password
+   Auth_PG_whereclause  and status='active'
require valid-user
Order deny,allow
deny from all
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Don't allow inactive accounts to authenticate using basic auth

2009-03-21 Thread Jon Stanley

Inactive accounts could authenticate to sites using mod_auth_pgsql.

Pretty sure all of these apps are not under freeze, but rather be safe. Some 
+1's?

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[Change Request] Minor bodhi update

2009-03-21 Thread Luke Macken
Hi guys,

I'd like to do a low-risk bodhi upgrade this weekend.  Changes include:

  * A new argument to the 'list' API method that will be utilized by
Fedora Community.  This does not break the existing API.
  * Added FormEncode validators to the 'list' API method, which fixes a
couple of issues, and ensures we get the data that we expect.
  * Made some parts of the updates push process a bit more robust, so if
there is a problem with 1 update, it won't effect the others.  This
will help us mitigate some recent explosions that we saw due to
race-conditions.
  * Fixed some Koji session issues, which we have been hitting
every now and then during pushes.

luke

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Re: Don't allow inactive accounts to authenticate using basic auth

2009-03-21 Thread Ricky Zhou
On 2009-03-21 08:59:24 PM, Jon Stanley wrote:
 Inactive accounts could authenticate to sites using mod_auth_pgsql.
 
 Pretty sure all of these apps are not under freeze, but rather be safe. Some 
 +1's?
We tested this out on hosted1 with active and inactive accounts, so:
+1

Thanks,
Ricky


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Re: Don't allow inactive accounts to authenticate using basic auth

2009-03-21 Thread Jon Stanley
Oops, there's one more:

diff --git a/modules/prelude/templates/prewikka-httpd.conf
b/modules/prelude/templates/prewikka-httpd.conf
index 3cabd5b..9486d2e 100644
--- a/modules/prelude/templates/prewikka-httpd.conf
+++ b/modules/prelude/templates/prewikka-httpd.conf
@@ -14,6 +14,7 @@ ScriptAlias /prewikka /usr/share/prewikka/cgi-bin/prewikka.cgi
Auth_PG_pwd_table people
Auth_PG_uid_field username
Auth_PG_pwd_field password
+   Auth_PG_whereclause  and status='active'
Auth_PG_grp_table user_group
Auth_PG_grp_user_field username
Auth_PG_grp_group_field groupname


2009/3/21 Ricky Zhou ri...@fedoraproject.org:
 On 2009-03-21 08:59:24 PM, Jon Stanley wrote:
 Inactive accounts could authenticate to sites using mod_auth_pgsql.

 Pretty sure all of these apps are not under freeze, but rather be safe. Some 
 +1's?
 We tested this out on hosted1 with active and inactive accounts, so:
 +1

 Thanks,
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Re: [Change Request] Minor bodhi update

2009-03-21 Thread Nigel Jones
+1 seems sane
- Luke Macken lmac...@redhat.com wrote:

 Hi guys,
 
 I'd like to do a low-risk bodhi upgrade this weekend.  Changes
 include:
 
   * A new argument to the 'list' API method that will be utilized by
 Fedora Community.  This does not break the existing API.
   * Added FormEncode validators to the 'list' API method, which fixes
 a
 couple of issues, and ensures we get the data that we expect.
   * Made some parts of the updates push process a bit more robust, so
 if
 there is a problem with 1 update, it won't effect the others. 
 This
 will help us mitigate some recent explosions that we saw due to
 race-conditions.
   * Fixed some Koji session issues, which we have been hitting
 every now and then during pushes.
 
 luke
 
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Re: Don't allow inactive accounts to authenticate using basic auth

2009-03-21 Thread Mike McGrath
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009, Ricky Zhou wrote:

 On 2009-03-21 08:59:24 PM, Jon Stanley wrote:
  Inactive accounts could authenticate to sites using mod_auth_pgsql.
 
  Pretty sure all of these apps are not under freeze, but rather be safe. 
  Some +1's?
 We tested this out on hosted1 with active and inactive accounts, so:
 +1


+1

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Re: [Change Request] Minor bodhi update

2009-03-21 Thread Mike McGrath


On Sat, 21 Mar 2009, Nigel Jones wrote:

 +1 seems sane
 - Luke Macken lmac...@redhat.com wrote:

  Hi guys,
 
  I'd like to do a low-risk bodhi upgrade this weekend.  Changes
  include:
 
* A new argument to the 'list' API method that will be utilized by
  Fedora Community.  This does not break the existing API.
* Added FormEncode validators to the 'list' API method, which fixes
  a
  couple of issues, and ensures we get the data that we expect.
* Made some parts of the updates push process a bit more robust, so
  if
  there is a problem with 1 update, it won't effect the others.
  This
  will help us mitigate some recent explosions that we saw due to
  race-conditions.
* Fixed some Koji session issues, which we have been hitting
  every now and then during pushes.
 
  luke
 

+1
-Mike

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Re: Wordpress?

2009-03-21 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Máirí­n Duffy wrote:
 Bret McMillan wrote:
 Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 Clint Savage wrote:

 Mike,

 Do you have a link to the mailing list thread?  I'd like to read up on
 it.  I like MU, don't get me wrong, just wonder why it was chosen.

 We wanted it for a Fedora News site. Refer

 https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/178

 At this point, I think we're blocked on a theme (outside my skillset).
 I think jonrob was going to look at this time-permitting.

 If we've made progress on this front, I can help w/ the puppetization,
 if that's still outstanding.
 
 Should be set:
 
 http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/webdesign/fedora-wordpress-theme/

Thanks Mo. Brett, can you help move this forward?

Rahul

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Memory issue

2009-03-21 Thread Mike McGrath
What am I missing here?  This happened on db3 again -

 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:  18480632   18383512  97120  0  25968   17305332
-/+ buffers/cache:1052212   17428420
Swap:  31457203145720  0


1) This box was swapping out like crazy.

2) All swap was full

3) oomkiller didn't start

4) Load went up a little bit, topped out at 3

5) no issues with the box at all, has postgres on it, kept running, wasn't
slow, box was completely responsive.

6) It's done this before, and aside from nagios alerting us the swap was
full, not had any issues with the box.

7) vm.swappiness = 60 which IIRC is the default

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Re: Memory issue

2009-03-21 Thread Matt Domsch
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 10:26:21PM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
 What am I missing here?  This happened on db3 again -
 
  total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
 Mem:  18480632   18383512  97120  0  25968   17305332
 -/+ buffers/cache:1052212   17428420
 Swap:  31457203145720  0
 
 
 1) This box was swapping out like crazy.
 
 2) All swap was full
 
 3) oomkiller didn't start
 
 4) Load went up a little bit, topped out at 3
 
 5) no issues with the box at all, has postgres on it, kept running, wasn't
 slow, box was completely responsive.
 
 6) It's done this before, and aside from nagios alerting us the swap was
 full, not had any issues with the box.

There are ~30 postgres processes running, many with RSS  1.6GB, and
nearly all marked idle.  If these processes aren't actively running,
they each can get swapped out to free memory for use by the page
cache. The page cache is consuming 17GB, which it's free to do if no
applications are actually _running_ that need more memory.  The
processes that are running and touching the database will cause those
disk accesses to get cached in the page cache.

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Re: Don't allow inactive accounts to authenticate using basic auth

2009-03-21 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
Jon Stanley wrote:
 Inactive accounts could authenticate to sites using mod_auth_pgsql.
 
 Pretty sure all of these apps are not under freeze, but rather be safe. Some 
 +1's?
 
+1

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Re: Boot Windows XP from high block number?

2009-03-21 Thread Rangeen Basu
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Jonathan Ryshpan jonr...@pacbell.net wrote:
 I have installed Linux and Windows XP on my hard drive and am trying to
 set up a dual boot.  Unfortunately XP is installed at a high sector,
 namely block 204438565.  The partition table starts:

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
 /dev/sda1              63     2040254     1020096   83  Linux
 /dev/sda2         2040255   104438564    51199155   83  Linux
 /dev/sda3   *   104438565   206836874    51199155    b  W95 FAT32
 ...

 I have set up grub.conf as follows:

 ...
 title Windows
        rootnoverify (hd0,2)
        chainloader +1

 The grub initialization screen starts OK, but when I select Windows,
 grub fails with a disk read error.

 Questions:

 (1) Is grub.conf set up right for this partition table?

 (2) Is it possible to boot XP at this location, or do I have to
 reinstall Linux and XP with their partition reversed, so as to get the
 XP partition to a smaller block number?

 (3) Is there some quicker way to get the partitions reversed other than
 reinstallation?

I read somewhere that windows needs to be the first partition to boot
properly. So you may try installing windows at hd0,0 and try again.

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Re: Revisor livecd for soho emergency use

2009-03-21 Thread Peter Malcolm Croft Price
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Peter Malcolm Croft Price
petermcpr...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am trying to provide a livecd for emergency use by colleagues and family on
 the soho servers (Fedora 10) I am responsible for.

 Revisor provides the opportunity to
 set up eth0 eth1 etc (with fixed ip addresses providing lan access)
 and firewall (I am still working on NAT setup)

 However in both scenarios  ppp0 would have to be configured
 with username and password to bring up xdsl internet connection.

 I cannot rely on any user expertise beyond restarting the server and/or
 booting from the livecd.
 Has anyone on the list any ideas about solutions, strategies, gotchas?

 Thanks for any help.

 Peter


Some progress made with
http://www.linux-live.org/
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keyboard problem

2009-03-21 Thread François Patte
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I have these lines in my xorg.conf file:

OptionXkbLayout fr
OptionXkbModel pc105
OptionXkbVariant latin9

And latin9 works on login screen but not when I am logged in.

Does anybody know what is the file in my personnal config which
overrides the general config?

Thanks.

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Re: keyboard problem

2009-03-21 Thread Frank Cox
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 09:18:47 +0100
François Patte wrote:

 Does anybody know what is the file in my personnal config which
 overrides the general config?

System - Preferences - Hardware - Keyboard

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Re: Install versus update on kmod-fglrx

2009-03-21 Thread Ambrogio
Il giorno ven, 20/03/2009 alle 14.37 -0700, Rick Stevens ha scritto:

 The kmod-fglrx stuff sometimes lags behind a kernel release (since it
 has to be built against the new kernel), and all the mirrors may not
 have the kmod yet.  You may have been just unlucky to hit a mirror that
 didn't have both RPMs yet.
 
 If you had waited a couple of days or tried it against a different repo
 mirror, it probably would have worked the first way you did it.  When
 you did it the second time, the mirror you hit had both RPMs and both
 got installed.

Hi Rick,
the problem is not related to mirrors or lag.
I think the problem is related to circular dependencies, because I
downloaded all required packages.

I issued this commands:

yum check-update
 I see that I can install a new kernel and that I can install the new
kmod-fglrx

yum update -y --downloadonly
 I downloaded all I need

yum update kernel \*
 Nothing updated because dependencies problems

yum update kmod-fglrx\*
 Nothing updated because dependencies problems

yum install kmod-fglrx\*
 Ok, and new kernel is installed for dependencies

I don't have the complete log, but next time I will had a kernel update
I will trace all command, to document more the problem (If kmod-fglrx
stuff will not solve the problem).

Bye
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Re: Virtual Box

2009-03-21 Thread Mike Cloaked



Aldo Foot wrote:
 
 
  su -c 'chcon -t virt_image_t /path/to/some-os-image.iso'
 
 
 That's just how I do it. I've installed a WinXp VM in my F10 box.
 KVM and QEMU work just fine.
 I think VirtualBox may be preferred because it appears more
 manageable in the surface.
 
 

I have been following this thread with some interest as I wanted to try out
KVM to use for both alpha or beta Fedora images, and also to run an XP VM so
that some applications that won't work outside of MS can still be used.  

However the box I wanted to try this on does not have the hardware
virtualisation flags that are the first test in the documentation for
running KVM.  The question I am unclear about is whether KVM can still be
used but give very slow performance, or does not having the vmx flag mean
you can't use KVM at all?

Does anyone have a pointer to a step by step guide for running a VM in F10?
(not VirtualBox)
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via video driver

2009-03-21 Thread François Patte
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Bonjour,

I have a laptop acer 1355LC with a via graphic card:

VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [S3 UniChrome]

seems to be VIA KM400/KM400A chipset in dmesg.


I cannot start x. no screen found


driver openchrome is not working. It seems that once upon a time there
has been a via driver. Is there some legacy xorg driver available for f10?

Thanks for helping.

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Gnome 2 work spaces on 2 LCD's

2009-03-21 Thread David Hláčik
Hello guys,

I am thinking about possibility to have one workspace of gnome desktop on 1
screen while second workspace of gnome desktop on 2 screen. Both needs to
have different resolutions = my laptop screens 1440x900 + my lcd 1280x1024.

Is this possible?

Thanks!
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Re: Virtual Box

2009-03-21 Thread Neal Becker
Mike Burger wrote:

 Tom Horsley wrote:
 On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:32:23 -0700
 Aldo Foot wrote:

   
 I think VirtualBox may be preferred because it appears more
 manageable in the surface.
 

 A friend at work who uses it says it is vastly easier to
 do things like pass USB devices through to the virtual hardware
 with VirtualBox than with anything else he has tried,
 so he can do things like use Windows scanner software for
 scanners not supported by anything in linux.

   
 I have to agree...at this point, I simply installed the VirtualBox RPM,
 ran the setup, started up VirtualBox, and voila!!!
 
I have stuck with VB (after trying kvm) because the interface (mouse, video) 
on VB work much better.  Using kvm (through qemu) lacks a lot in terms of 
interface.


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Re: fedora LTS , why not?

2009-03-21 Thread Adel ESSAFI
Well,
I see that many of you point me to centOs. The idea is interresting.
However, why centOs is not as known as ubuntu. The main advantage in ubunti
(in my point of view) is LTS and codecs!  Why centOS is not a commercial
success?

regards
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2009/3/20 Tosh toshli...@gmail.com

 Adel ESSAFI wrote:

 Hi list


 I was using fedora and redhat since 2000. To day, I can see that our
 favorite distro is really very strong. However, I have done some
 experience (short) with Ubuntu and I have liked to LTS concept (Long
 Term support).

 My idea is to build a distribution that is based on Fedora at 100% with
 1. LTS
 2. with a very reduce number of packages
 3. with proprietary codecs and essentiel software (mp3, flash ) included
 in.

 I know that the variety of the open source projects are making it's
 power. However, I aim to build a distribution with only one software
 from each catégory. That is, I have to choose between:
 *  KDE and GNOME for the destop
 * rhythembox , kaffeine, ... as media player
 * abiword or openoffice as office writer
 .

 Technically, I will maintain a repository  with a reduced number of
 packages.


 If I get positive feed back from this list, I can start working on this
 project in july

 This distribution will be very useful for starter!!

 Best regards
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 first and for all I wish to expand on the current responses
 as you may kwow by now
 fedora - 9 months release base - 18 months support base
 centos/rhel - 4 years release base - 7 years support base

 I suggest you take centos and work from there, most of the work is already
 done for you, and you can maybe contribute to rpmforge or my new repo to
 increase the package set
 I hope to setup my repo this weekend, giving centos gnumeric and abiword
 and audacious (with mp3 support) as these are missing in rpmforge due to
 some dependencies that cannot be included at the moment in rpmforge
 or you could go with fedora epel

 imho, there is no need to reinvent the wheel, if you are not going to
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DVI monitor flicker with F10

2009-03-21 Thread Chris Rouch
Yesterday I installed F10 onto a spare disk. I installed over the
network with my LCD monitor (Samsung 240T) connected to the DVI output
of my onboard graphics card (ATI X1250). As soon as the initial tftp
messages had finished and the fedora installer started (with the
network manager is configuring eth0 message), the display began
flashing on and off. I was using kickstart with vnc on, so I switched
off the monitor and let it complete the installation.

However booting the installed system has the same result. Everything
is stable until the point where plymouth starts (or the alternative
text output if rhgb is removed from the boot line), when the display
begins flashing again. This continues after the X display is started,
using Vesa or Radion (fglrx results in an immediate reboot, but that's
another issue). If I switch to the VGA output then the display is
stable, but offset to the left by about 40 characters.

If I boot back into F8 then everything is stable, so I'm sure it's not
a hardware problem.

Has anyone seen this or have any suggestions how to fix it?

Thanks,

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Backing up system

2009-03-21 Thread GMS S

Hi,
Reading this:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
I ran this command from terminal being root


tar cvpzf backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found 
--exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/media --exclude=/sys /

But the last two lines from terminal.


/boot/initrd-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686.img
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors

Why is that for?
What should I do now? 


  

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Re: fedora LTS , why not?

2009-03-21 Thread Sharpe, Sam J
2009/3/21 Adel ESSAFI adeless...@gmail.com:
 I see that many of you point me to centOs. The idea is interresting.
 However, why centOs is not as known as ubuntu. The main advantage in ubunti
 (in my point of view) is LTS and codecs!  Why centOS is not a commercial
 success?

CentOS is a success. I've been looking for a new job recently and lots
of medium-sized businesses are using CentOS. In my limited experience
I have only found one company asking for Ubuntu experience. Ubuntu's
codec support is also no different to Fedora - it's not in the main
repositories, you have to enable universe, just like you have to
enable rpmfusion for Fedora.

However, CentOS isn't used as much in large organisations - they tend
(as my current employer does) to use Red Hat Enterprise Linux, because
it is certified by lots of application and hardware vendors and can be
purchased with support contracts which they have the money to buy.

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Re: DVI monitor flicker with F10

2009-03-21 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:25:22 +0100
Chris Rouch wrote:

 Has anyone seen this or have any suggestions how to fix it?

You could examine my saga :-)

http://home.att.net/~Tom.Horsley/easy-linux.html

But for me it turned out in the end to actually be a hardware
problem.

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Re: fedora LTS , why not?

2009-03-21 Thread Andras Simon
On 3/21/09, Adel ESSAFI adeless...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well,
 I see that many of you point me to centOs. The idea is interresting.
 However, why centOs is not as known as ubuntu. The main advantage in ubunti
 (in my point of view) is LTS and codecs!  Why centOS is not a commercial
 success?

Because it's not a commercial enterprise.

Andras

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Re: Request for help on VM

2009-03-21 Thread Jerry Feldman

On 03/20/2009 01:49 PM, RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA wrote:

How to do this with VirtualBox?

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Mike Burger 
mbur...@bubbanfriends.org mailto:mbur...@bubbanfriends.org wrote:


Paul W. Frields wrote:

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:51:53PM +0100, Joachim Backes wrote:
 


RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA wrote:
   


G'day all,

I have two partitions in my PC. I have installed F10
on one partition  and Windows XP on the second
partition. Now, can I run the XP as guest  OS on F10
using VM? and how?
 


Did you try VirtualBox?
   



VirtualBox isn't part of Fedora, and it's not required to do
what the
OP's asking about.  The virtualization that comes with Fedora
works
just fine.
 


That being said, and the fact that the OP wasn't specific about
which VM system he wanted to use, if a specific one was in mind,
VirtualBox works wonderfully, so far, in my limited use, if he's
interested in that option.

To convert a Windows partition to a Virtual Machine can be done in a few 
ways.
1. Use VMWare's P2V converter. This will convert the data in the 
partition to a .VDK file. You can then import this into Virtualbox. I 
don't know if you can do the same with KVM (Fedora's built-in virtual 
machine).

2. Virtualbox has a web page on how to convert physical to virtual:
http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=11279sid=b4e5df8dc43a979aec9996896693dfef



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NM with a system wide connection-for Tim and others

2009-03-21 Thread Aaron Konstam

Here is Dan Willliams discussion about using NM to produce a global
network connection. I never tried it myself.

 Forwarded Message 
From: Dan Williams d...@redhat.com
To: Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: A belated question about 0.7
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 09:55:06 -0400

On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 08:35 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
 On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 00:44 -0400, Dan Williams wrote:
  On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 09:16 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
   I thought that one of the capabilities of NM-0.7.. was to be able to
   bring up the network globally on the machine instead of having to loin
   as a user, Did that happen and I missed it.
   
   If that can be dons , how?
  
  It happens, it's done through system settings.  The system settings
  service has plugins which provide system-level configuration to
  NetworkManager.  Each distro has one to convert their (usually
  read-only) file formats (like ifcfg or /etc/network/interfaces) to NM
  Connections, but due to the limitations of some of these legacy formats,
  they might not support all types of connections.
  
  There's the 'keyfile' plugin that supports all types of connections and
  provides both read and writability.  On Fedora for the moment we only
  enable the ifcfg-fedora plugin to provide your normal ifcfg files to
  NetworkManager, but we don't enable the keyfile plugin yet since there
  are a few issues to sort out when more than one plugin is enabled.
  
  Dan
  
  
 I thought about your answer above and conclude in can be done in F9 but
 not yet with the keyfile plugin. There is no /etc/network/interfaces in
 F9 so I am not sure just how one does system wide connections at this
 time in F9.
 Could you clarify?

Ah :) /etc/network/interfaces is the Ubuntu/Debian equivalent of ifcfg-*
files.  The keyfile plugin doesn't use them.

The keyfile plugin reads files
in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections, which are essentially .ini
files.  Each section (denoted by [name]) is a Setting, and that
setting contains key/value pairs.  It's really just a flat text file
representation of what's in GConf too.  At some point soon I'll make
sure the NetworkManager configuration spec is fully up-to-date, which is
essentially how a keyfile is made.

In the mean time, you can
edit /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf and change
'ifcfg-fedora' to 'keyfile', 'killall -TERM nm-system-settings', then in
the connection editor create your connection and make sure to check the
System connection box before hitting OK.  That _should_ ensure that
the connection is saved as a system-wide connection and you'll be able
to poke around the file too.

Let me know if you have any questions.

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Re: Request for help on VM

2009-03-21 Thread Jerry Feldman

On 03/21/2009 09:16 AM, Jerry Feldman wrote:

On 03/20/2009 01:49 PM, RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA wrote:

How to do this with VirtualBox?

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Mike Burger 
mbur...@bubbanfriends.org mailto:mbur...@bubbanfriends.org wrote:


Paul W. Frields wrote:

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:51:53PM +0100, Joachim Backes wrote:

RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA wrote:
  
G'day all,


I have two partitions in my PC. I have installed F10
on one partition  and Windows XP on the second
partition. Now, can I run the XP as guest  OS on F10
using VM? and how?

Did you try VirtualBox?
  


VirtualBox isn't part of Fedora, and it's not required to do
what the
OP's asking about.  The virtualization that comes with Fedora
works
just fine.

That being said, and the fact that the OP wasn't specific about

which VM system he wanted to use, if a specific one was in mind,
VirtualBox works wonderfully, so far, in my limited use, if he's
interested in that option.

To convert a Windows partition to a Virtual Machine can be done in a 
few ways.
1. Use VMWare's P2V converter. This will convert the data in the 
partition to a .VDK file. You can then import this into Virtualbox. I 
don't know if you can do the same with KVM (Fedora's built-in virtual 
machine).

2. Virtualbox has a web page on how to convert physical to virtual:
http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=11279sid=b4e5df8dc43a979aec9996896693dfef 

3. Convert to KVM essentially use VMWare's tool to convert to a .vmdk, 
and use qemu-img to import it into KVM.

http://www.montanalinux.org/physical-to-virtual.html

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Re: fedora LTS , why not?

2009-03-21 Thread Adel ESSAFI
2009/3/21 Sharpe, Sam J
sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.comsam.sharpe%2blists.red...@gmail.com


 2009/3/21 Adel ESSAFI adeless...@gmail.com:
  I see that many of you point me to centOs. The idea is interresting.
  However, why centOs is not as known as ubuntu. The main advantage in
 ubunti
  (in my point of view) is LTS and codecs!  Why centOS is not a commercial
  success?

 CentOS is a success. I've been looking for a new job recently and lots
 of medium-sized businesses are using CentOS. In my limited experience
 I have only found one company asking for Ubuntu experience. Ubuntu's
 codec support is also no different to Fedora - it's not in the main
 repositories, you have to enable universe, just like you have to
 enable rpmfusion for Fedora.

I agree. But, things looks easier in ubuntu! The coded is loaded
automatically (afte a confirmation from the user). Why such features are not
avalaible in Fedora!


Regards






 However, CentOS isn't used as much in large organisations - they tend
 (as my current employer does) to use Red Hat Enterprise Linux, because
 it is certified by lots of application and hardware vendors and can be
 purchased with support contracts which they have the money to buy.

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Re: fedora LTS , why not?

2009-03-21 Thread Adel ESSAFI
2009/3/21 Adel ESSAFI adel.s...@imag.fr



 2009/3/21 Sharpe, Sam J 
 sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.comsam.sharpe%2blists.red...@gmail.com
 

 2009/3/21 Adel ESSAFI adeless...@gmail.com:
  I see that many of you point me to centOs. The idea is interresting.
  However, why centOs is not as known as ubuntu. The main advantage in
 ubunti
  (in my point of view) is LTS and codecs!  Why centOS is not a commercial
  success?

 CentOS is a success. I've been looking for a new job recently and lots
 of medium-sized businesses are using CentOS. In my limited experience
 I have only found one company asking for Ubuntu experience. Ubuntu's
 codec support is also no different to Fedora - it's not in the main
 repositories, you have to enable universe, just like you have to
 enable rpmfusion for Fedora.


I agree. But, things looks easier in ubuntu! The coded is loaded
automatically (afte a confirmation from the user). Why such features are not
avalaible in Fedora!




 Regards






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 (as my current employer does) to use Red Hat Enterprise Linux, because
 it is certified by lots of application and hardware vendors and can be
 purchased with support contracts which they have the money to buy.

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Re: NM with a system wide connection-for Tim and others

2009-03-21 Thread Timothy Murphy
Aaron Konstam wrote:

 Here is Dan Willliams discussion about using NM to produce a global
 network connection. I never tried it myself.

[Discussion of what might happen sometime in the future]

 In the mean time, you can
 edit /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf and change
 'ifcfg-fedora' to 'keyfile', 'killall -TERM nm-system-settings', then in
 the connection editor create your connection and make sure to check the
 System connection box before hitting OK.  That _should_ ensure that
 the connection is saved as a system-wide connection and you'll be able
 to poke around the file too.

I'm trying to make sense of this.
My /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf reads:
-
[main]
plugins=ifcfg-rh
-
I've changed the second line to plugins=keyfile
though I have no idea what that means.

Now I've run
-
[...@mary NetworkManager]$ killall -TERM nm-system-settings
nm-system-settings(2124): Operation not permitted
nm-system-settings: no process killed
[...@mary NetworkManager]$ sudo killall -TERM nm-system-settings
-

Finally, I have right-clicked on the NM icon in my panel,
and clicked on Edit Connections, then on the Wireless tag,
next on Auto-dd which seems to be my current connection,
and finally on Edit.
There is no System connection box.
There is only a box Connect automatically which is ticked.

It seems I have misunderstood the instructions.
What is the connection editor if not the above?
And how do I create my connection?

 Let me know if you have any questions.

Just write some documentation, PLEASE.

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Re: Backing up system

2009-03-21 Thread Aldo Foot
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 4:25 AM, GMS S gms...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi,
 Reading this:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
 I ran this command from terminal being root


 tar cvpzf backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found 
 --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/media --exclude=/sys /

 But the last two lines from terminal.


 /boot/initrd-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686.img
 tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors

 Why is that for?
 What should I do now?



The editor of the link you refer to says this:
EDIT2:
At the end of the process you might get a message along the lines
of 'tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors' or something, but in
most cases you can just ignore that.
That means that tar found some errors but it continued its operation
anyway. Look at the size of
the tar file, try to restore a file or two to test it.

One way to find out what is going on is to pipe the tar action to a log file
and check it. Add to the end of the tar command something like  | tee
tar.log, which
will create a text filed named tar.log. If you find a troublesome dir,
just exclude it and
do a test run. Read the tar man page or eSearch the errors you get to
learn more.
.
good luck.
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Re: fedora LTS , why not?

2009-03-21 Thread Armin
On Saturday 21 March 2009 11:09:06 Adel ESSAFI wrote:
 2009/3/21 Adel ESSAFI adel.s...@imag.fr

  2009/3/21 Sharpe, Sam J
  sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.comsam.sharpe%2blists.red...@gmail.com
 
  2009/3/21 Adel ESSAFI adeless...@gmail.com:
   I see that many of you point me to centOs. The idea is interresting.
   However, why centOs is not as known as ubuntu. The main advantage in
 
  ubunti
 
   (in my point of view) is LTS and codecs!  Why centOS is not a
   commercial success?
 
  CentOS is a success. I've been looking for a new job recently and lots
  of medium-sized businesses are using CentOS. In my limited experience
  I have only found one company asking for Ubuntu experience. Ubuntu's
  codec support is also no different to Fedora - it's not in the main
  repositories, you have to enable universe, just like you have to
  enable rpmfusion for Fedora.

 I agree. But, things looks easier in ubuntu! The coded is loaded
 automatically (afte a confirmation from the user). Why such features are
 not avalaible in Fedora!

That is mostly an illusion created somewhat by the ubuntu user community.  You 
said things look easier.  Like what?  Could you give a good example?  The 
codecs are installed the same way and used the same way in both ubuntu and 
CentOS/Fedora.

  Regards
 
  However, CentOS isn't used as much in large organisations - they tend
  (as my current employer does) to use Red Hat Enterprise Linux, because
  it is certified by lots of application and hardware vendors and can be
  purchased with support contracts which they have the money to buy.
 
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Re: fedora LTS , why not?

2009-03-21 Thread Adel ESSAFI
2009/3/20 Armin amor...@fedoraproject.org

 On Saturday 21 March 2009 11:09:06 Adel ESSAFI wrote:
  2009/3/21 Adel ESSAFI adel.s...@imag.fr
 
   2009/3/21 Sharpe, Sam J
   sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.comsam.sharpe%2blists.red...@gmail.com
 sam.sharpe%2blists.red...@gmail.comsam.sharpe%252blists.red...@gmail.com
 
  
   2009/3/21 Adel ESSAFI adeless...@gmail.com:
I see that many of you point me to centOs. The idea is interresting.
However, why centOs is not as known as ubuntu. The main advantage in
  
   ubunti
  
(in my point of view) is LTS and codecs!  Why centOS is not a
commercial success?
  
   CentOS is a success. I've been looking for a new job recently and lots
   of medium-sized businesses are using CentOS. In my limited experience
   I have only found one company asking for Ubuntu experience. Ubuntu's
   codec support is also no different to Fedora - it's not in the main
   repositories, you have to enable universe, just like you have to
   enable rpmfusion for Fedora.
 
  I agree. But, things looks easier in ubuntu! The coded is loaded
  automatically (afte a confirmation from the user). Why such features are
  not avalaible in Fedora!

 That is mostly an illusion created somewhat by the ubuntu user community.
  You
 said things look easier.  Like what?  Could you give a good example?  **


For this example: I mean that some ubuntu multimedia software ask you
installing codecs when needed!! And they install the appropriate one. This
unfortunatly does not exist in Fedora


Regards





 The
 codecs are installed the same way and used the same way in both ubuntu and
 CentOS/Fedora.

   Regards
  
   However, CentOS isn't used as much in large organisations - they tend
   (as my current employer does) to use Red Hat Enterprise Linux, because
   it is certified by lots of application and hardware vendors and can be
   purchased with support contracts which they have the money to buy.
  
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Re: fedora LTS , why not?

2009-03-21 Thread Adel ESSAFI
2009/3/21 Adel ESSAFI adel.s...@imag.fr



 2009/3/20 Armin amor...@fedoraproject.org

 On Saturday 21 March 2009 11:09:06 Adel ESSAFI wrote:
  2009/3/21 Adel ESSAFI adel.s...@imag.fr
 
   2009/3/21 Sharpe, Sam J
   sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.comsam.sharpe%2blists.red...@gmail.com
 sam.sharpe%2blists.red...@gmail.comsam.sharpe%252blists.red...@gmail.com
 
  
   2009/3/21 Adel ESSAFI adeless...@gmail.com:
I see that many of you point me to centOs. The idea is
 interresting.
However, why centOs is not as known as ubuntu. The main advantage
 in
  
   ubunti
  
(in my point of view) is LTS and codecs!  Why centOS is not a
commercial success?
  
   CentOS is a success. I've been looking for a new job recently and
 lots
   of medium-sized businesses are using CentOS. In my limited experience
   I have only found one company asking for Ubuntu experience. Ubuntu's
   codec support is also no different to Fedora - it's not in the main
   repositories, you have to enable universe, just like you have to
   enable rpmfusion for Fedora.
 
  I agree. But, things looks easier in ubuntu! The coded is loaded
  automatically (afte a confirmation from the user). Why such features are
  not avalaible in Fedora!

 That is mostly an illusion created somewhat by the ubuntu user community.
  You
 said things look easier.  Like what?  Could you give a good example?  **




For this example: I mean that some ubuntu multimedia software ask you
installing codecs when needed!! And they install the appropriate one. This
unfortunatly does not exist in Fedora


Regards








 The
 codecs are installed the same way and used the same way in both ubuntu and
 CentOS/Fedora.

   Regards
  
   However, CentOS isn't used as much in large organisations - they tend
   (as my current employer does) to use Red Hat Enterprise Linux,
 because
   it is certified by lots of application and hardware vendors and can
 be
   purchased with support contracts which they have the money to buy.
  
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Re: Bash help requested: Capturing command errors within pipes

2009-03-21 Thread Steven W. Orr
On Friday, Mar 20th 2009 at 00:39 -, quoth Cameron Simpson:

=On 19Mar2009 18:55, Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote:
= Cameron Simpson wrote:
= Ok, but I strongly recommend you never us a regexp unquoted - the
= necessary backslash nesting gets nasty real fast. A better way is like
= this:
=   re='s/b/h/'
=   sed -e $re
=[...]
= The point here, unrelated to the pipe exit status issue, is to keep the
= sed stuff easy to write and undamaged by shell substitution. [...]
=
= Another person sent me private email
= warning of the double-quotes, but thanks
= for your information, it is interesting!
=
= This is what I ended up doing, so please give
= your constructive critiques, if you so like?
=
=Untested, but here is how I would write each of you code pieces were I doing
=it myself:
=
= TRACKER=Tracker.log
= SFILE=Bad_Hosts_File.txt
= TFILE=Bad_Hosts_File_$$.txt
=
=tracker=Tracker.log
=sfile=Bad_Hosts_File.txt
=tfile=Bad_Hosts_File_$$.txt
=
=Your quotes are unneeded here. Plenty of people find the  marks and in
=similar cases, to use ${foo} instead of $foo elsewhere, but I find the
=syntactic noise annoying if there's no other necessity.
=
=Also, you should never use UPPER CASE names for script local variables (i.e.
=that are not to be exported). I give some background why here:
=
=  http://markmail.org/message/awimhb3nmu6ssvwp

One historical tidbit I'd like to share with you. Back when the TRex was 
tromping around, I worked at Data General during Soul Of A New Machine. 
The deal there was that all external variables under AOS had to be 
uppercase. The reason for this was because we sometimes needed to access 
variables by name at link-time and the CLI (Command Line Interface, a sort 
of macro processor) was case insensitive, so all commands caused 
everything to be flipped to uppercase, no matter what we wanted. The 
result was that all external variables ended up as uppercase, just in 
case. :-)

=
= pat=EACC
=
=pat=EACC
=
= re1=-e '/$pat/s/^.*Received:\[from\s\+\(.*\)\s\+(.*/\1/'
= re2=-e '/^.*cdkkt.com$/d'
=
=Note that this $ should probably be backslashed. As it happens, $/ is
=not a shell special variable, so it is left alone. However, has you used
=$# or one of the others ($!, et al) there would have been substitution
=done, mangling your sed code.
=
= rex=sed $re1 $re2
=
=I would strongly reommend putting this in a sed script file, perhaps
=like this:
=
=  cat sedf$$ X
=/$pat/s/^.*Received:\[from\s\+\(.*\)\s\+(.*/\1/
=/^.*cdkkt.com\$/d
=  X
=  rex=sed -f sedf$$
=
=Hmm, actually, maybe not. Maybe like this:
=
=  sedline=/$pat/s/^.*Received:\[from\s\+\(.*\)\s\+(.*/\1/; /^.*cdkkt.com\$/d
=
=and then:
=
=  sed -e $sedline
=
=in your pipeline lower down.
=
= echo -en \033[0;36m \033[0;35mExtracting data from:\n \
=  [\033[0;34m${TRACKER}\033[0;35m and appending to\n \
=  [\033[0;34m${TFILE}\033[0;35m]\033[0m
=
=I usually put escape sequences into their own variables for readbility,
=like this:
=
=  http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/rc/shell/colour_ansi
=
=Then you can talk about ${tty_green}, ${tty_normal} etc in your text;
=somewhat more readable. You can do even better than this, actually.
=Since not all terminals use the ANSI colour escapes, it is better to use
=tput, like this:
=
=  http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/css/bin/with-colour
=
=and then in your script:
=
=  esc_tracker=`with-colour green echo $TRACKER`
=
=and then use ${esc_tracker} in messages. And so forth.
=
= out=$(grep $pat ${TRACKER} | \
=  eval $rex | sort -n | \
=  uniq  ${TFILE}); ret=$?;
=
= if [ $ret -gt 0 ] || \
=   [ $PIPESTATUS[0] -gt 0 ] || \
=   [ $PIPESTATUS[1] -gt 0 ] || \
=   [ $PIPESTATUS[2] -gt 0 ] || \
=   [ $PIPESTATUS[3] -gt 0 ]; then
=   echo -e  \033[0;31mFailed.\n   \
=   \033[0;35m-- ErrorStatus:ret=$ret,\
=  PipeStatus:$pipestat...@]\n\
=  -- out:$out\033[0m
=   echo -e \033[0;31m \033[0;31m$PROG exited.\033[0m\n
=   exit 1
= fi
= echo -e  \033[0;32mDone.\033[0m;
=
= I guess the ugly part is the multiple $PIPESTATUS[n]
= in the if statement test block. but perhaps this is the best
= I can do?
=
=Nah. You can do this:
=
=  if out=$(grep $pat $tracker | $rex | sort -un $tfile)
=  then
=case  $PIPESTATUS in
=  *' '[1-9]*)
=echo exit ok, but PIPESTATUS=$PIPESTATUS
=;;
=  *)echo exit ok and PIPESTATUS all zeroes
=;;
=esac
=  else
=echo exit not ok
=  fi
=
=Um, you are aware that $out will always be empty? You have sent
=standard out to the temp file. Standard error is not collected by back
=ticks or $(); it will be displayed directly and not land in $out.
=You probably need to go:
=
=  out=$(exec 21; grep  $tfile)
=
=An easy test is like this:
=
=  out=$(ls /no/such/file temp)
=  echo out=[$out]
=
=versus:
=
=  out=$(exec 21; ls /no/such/file temp)
=  echo out=[$out]
=
=Cheers,
=-- 
=Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au DoD#743
=http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/
=
=The aim of AI is to make computers act like the ones in the movies.
=   

Re: F10 and built-in Intel graphics

2009-03-21 Thread Kevin Kofler
Mike Cloaked wrote:
 I have not tried kmod-nvidia yet but even with default drivers in F10 it
 works like a charm - 3d is later to try!

Unfortunately, 3D will be completely nonexistent without proprietary drivers
on that NVidia card.

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Re: fedora LTS , why not?

2009-03-21 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adel ESSAFI wrote:
 For this example: I mean that some ubuntu multimedia software ask you
 installing codecs when needed!! And they install the appropriate one. This
 unfortunatly does not exist in Fedora

Unfortunately, pointing you to codecs which are illegal in the US is also
illegal in the US. Ubuntu gets away with it because Canonical is based in
the Isle of Man, not in the US.

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Re: fedora LTS , why not?

2009-03-21 Thread Tosh

Adel ESSAFI wrote:



2009/3/21 Adel ESSAFI adel.s...@imag.fr mailto:adel.s...@imag.fr



2009/3/20 Armin amor...@fedoraproject.org
mailto:amor...@fedoraproject.org

On Saturday 21 March 2009 11:09:06 Adel ESSAFI wrote:
  2009/3/21 Adel ESSAFI adel.s...@imag.fr
mailto:adel.s...@imag.fr
 
   2009/3/21 Sharpe, Sam J
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   2009/3/21 Adel ESSAFI adeless...@gmail.com
mailto:adeless...@gmail.com:
I see that many of you point me to centOs. The idea is
interresting.
However, why centOs is not as known as ubuntu. The main
advantage in
  
   ubunti
  
(in my point of view) is LTS and codecs!  Why centOS is
not a
commercial success?
  
   CentOS is a success. I've been looking for a new job
recently and lots
   of medium-sized businesses are using CentOS. In my limited
experience
   I have only found one company asking for Ubuntu
experience. Ubuntu's
   codec support is also no different to Fedora - it's not in
the main
   repositories, you have to enable universe, just like you
have to
   enable rpmfusion for Fedora.
 
  I agree. But, things looks easier in ubuntu! The coded is loaded
  automatically (afte a confirmation from the user). Why such
features are
  not avalaible in Fedora!

That is mostly an illusion created somewhat by the ubuntu user
community.  You
said things look easier.  Like what?  Could you give a good
example?  **


For this example: I mean that some ubuntu multimedia software ask you
installing codecs when needed!! And they install the appropriate one.
This unfortunatly does not exist in Fedora


Regards






The
codecs are installed the same way and used the same way in both
ubuntu and
CentOS/Fedora.

   Regards
  
   However, CentOS isn't used as much in large organisations
- they tend
   (as my current employer does) to use Red Hat Enterprise
Linux, because
   it is certified by lots of application and hardware
vendors and can be
   purchased with support contracts which they have the money
to buy.
  
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Please note, CentOS IS A COMMERCIAL SUCCESS
Many bigger enterprises use CentOS, but they do not advertise it and it 
is very popular for small  medium enterprises

CentOS/Fedora does lacks the same consumer fame like Ubuntu
Two main reasons according to me :
(1) Commercial backing = limited funding = less advertisement
(2) Perception amongst users and the media = leading to less knowledge 
how to use the product



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Re: Virtual Box

2009-03-21 Thread Kevin Kofler
Mike Cloaked wrote:
 However the box I wanted to try this on does not have the hardware
 virtualisation flags that are the first test in the documentation for
 running KVM.  The question I am unclear about is whether KVM can still be
 used but give very slow performance, or does not having the vmx flag
 mean you can't use KVM at all?

Well, you can use QEMU and it will be extremely slow. I think the qemu-kvm
binary will fallback to software QEMU emulation if KVM is not supported.

One thing you can use to speed it up a bit in kmod-kqemu which you can found
in the RPM Fusion repository, in the Free section (it got GPLed some time
ago, so it's in the Free section, but Fedora won't carry it because it's
not in the upstream kernel). It's a hack to run some of the code on the
native hardware without needing hardware virtualization. That said, I'm not
sure whether virt-manager will fire up the correct qemu binary and with the
correct options to use kqemu. If you run the regular qemu binary (not
qemu-kvm) with no option, it will pick up kqemu.

That said, AFAIK kqemu doesn't perform anywhere near as well as KVM, also
because kernel code is still emulated entirely in software (there's an
experimental -kernel-kqemu option which tries to use kqemu also for
kernel-space code, but all I ever got out of that option is VM crashes).

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Re: fedora LTS , why not?

2009-03-21 Thread Antonio Olivares




--- On Sat, 3/21/09, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:

 From: Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at
 Subject: Re: fedora LTS , why not?
 To: fedora-list@redhat.com
 Date: Saturday, March 21, 2009, 1:54 PM
 Adel ESSAFI wrote:
  For this example: I mean that some ubuntu multimedia
 software ask you
  installing codecs when needed!! And they install the
 appropriate one. This
  unfortunatly does not exist in Fedora
 
 Unfortunately, pointing you to codecs which are illegal in
 the US is also
 illegal in the US. Ubuntu gets away with it because
 Canonical is based in
 the Isle of Man, not in the US.
 
 Kevin Kofler
 
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I can understand the LTS support complaints, but CentOS, Scientific and others 
address this, but as far as the codecs part.  There is a CD out there with 
everything prepackaged and Fedora based:

http://osdir.com/ml/fedora-announce/2008-12/msg7.html

http://reddevil62-techhead.blogspot.com/2008/10/omega-10-live-cd-beta-fedora-with-added.html

It is installable and has the packages(which are easily installed otherwise by 
the way) that the users in this thread are asking for.  I wonder sometimes if 
people know about this, it seems that they don't know about it.  I hope that 
the work of several people who have taken the time to work on such projects get 
the notice that they deserver :)

Regards,

Antonio 


  

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Re: KVM Host and Guest bitness

2009-03-21 Thread Kevin Kofler
Joseph L. Casale wrote:
 Always used Xen on CentOS but thought I would give kvm a go on
 my x64 F10 desktop, using virt-manager I can only create a fully
 virtualized x64 vm? According to
 http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Guest_Support_Status I should be able to do
 x86/64 windows on x64 Kvm 74? Something I am missing?

You can only create x86_64 VMs, but you can boot a 32-bit OS in them and
it'll still be accelerated.

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Re: fedora LTS , why not?

2009-03-21 Thread Kevin Kofler
Antonio Olivares wrote:
 I can understand the LTS support complaints, but CentOS, Scientific and
 others address this, but as far as the codecs part.  There is a CD out
 there with everything prepackaged and Fedora based:

... where everything doesn't include KDE. IMHO that CD is completely
useless.

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lots of pre-F10 packages in f10

2009-03-21 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier
I just noticed that my Fedora 10 X86_64 installation DVD has a fair number 
of packages labelled fc9 rather than fc10.  In fact some are
fcearlier.

1 is fc6
8 are fc7
16 are fc8
355 are fc9
2272 are fc10

Why would the packagers not rebuild all packages for a release?  Is
there not a risk that some of these packages would be built against
libraries that have changed?  I didn't think that the ABI for fc9 was
supported by fc10.

It turns out that all fc[678] packages included are noarch.  So this
is *probably* safe, but not guaranteed.

I came across this when I could not boot the Fedora 10 Live CD and
found that the problem was in the savage X11 viddeo driver.  That
driver is an fc9 package.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=491488

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Re: lots of pre-F10 packages in f10

2009-03-21 Thread Kevin Kofler
D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:
 Why would the packagers not rebuild all packages for a release?

Because there was no mass rebuild for Fedora 10, it was not needed.

 I didn't think that the ABI for fc9 was supported by fc10.

glibc and several other libraries are backwards-compatible. For the ones
which aren't, the soname has been bumped and so packages built against the
old version have been detected and rebuilt.

 It turns out that all fc[678] packages included are noarch.

This is because there was a mass rebuild for Fedora 9, but noarch packages
were excluded because the mass rebuild was for GCC improvements which
didn't affect noarch packages at all.

For Fedora 11, there was a global mass rebuild of all packages (including
noarch ones) for new RPM features, so Fedora 11 should be shipping with
only packages built for Fedora 11. (But at the moment there are still some
packages which failed to rebuild and so a few old builds are still
included.)

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Re: fedora LTS , why not?

2009-03-21 Thread dan
On Sat, 2009-03-21 at 21:54 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
 Unfortunately, pointing you to codecs which are illegal in the US is also
 illegal in the US. Ubuntu gets away with it because Canonical is based in
 the Isle of Man, not in the US.
Canonical is Registered in the Isle of Man, their main offices are in
London.

Ubuntu (and Debian) get away with it because their U.S. servers do not
offer software the US government deems illegal as that has legal
implications for their project and developers. However, those in the US
can configure their apt-sources to download from servers outside of the
U.S. That, however, possibly puts the individual in a less than
desirable position. 

Kind Regards,
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Re: fedora LTS , why not?

2009-03-21 Thread psmith

Kevin Kofler wrote:

Antonio Olivares wrote:
  

I can understand the LTS support complaints, but CentOS, Scientific and
others address this, but as far as the codecs part.  There is a CD out
there with everything prepackaged and Fedora based:



... where everything doesn't include KDE. IMHO that CD is completely
useless.

Kevin Kofler

  


i think by now this list knows exactly how you feel about kde, and those 
who don't feel the same as you ;), but fortunately not everyone has to 
like the same things :)


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So how safe is Firefox these days?

2009-03-21 Thread jimbob palmer
Hello,

A year or so ago (if I remember correctly), selinux contained a bunch
of policy hacks to make firefox work.

Does firefox now have a normal 100% safe selinux policy, or does
firefox still do weird stuff?

Thanks,

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Re: F10 and built-in Intel graphics

2009-03-21 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sat, 2009-03-21 at 21:52 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
 Mike Cloaked wrote:
  I have not tried kmod-nvidia yet but even with default drivers in F10 it
  works like a charm - 3d is later to try!
 
 Unfortunately, 3D will be completely nonexistent without proprietary drivers
 on that NVidia card.

Well, there is the nouveau driver.  Not sure how stable or fast that is
at this point, though.

 
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updating azureus

2009-03-21 Thread Chris Hogan
I just reinstalled FC 10 on my system due to a bug showing up.   I want
to update azureus to the latest version, but vuze.com does not have any
install instructions on it's site for any OS.  Can anyone help me get my
system up to date with this software ie which directory to install the
tarball to.   I am also having problems getting my flash plugin to
install and be recognized by firefox and azureus.

any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: F10 Things Breaking

2009-03-21 Thread Rex Dieter
Conor Mac Aoidh wrote:

Then my desktop widgets (I'm using KDE) stopped working. I get the
 following error in a black box where the widgets used to be:

yum install kdebase-workspace-googlegadgets


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Re: Bash help requested: Capturing command errors within pipes

2009-03-21 Thread Daniel B. Thurman

Steven W. Orr wrote:

On Friday, Mar 20th 2009 at 00:39 -, quoth Cameron Simpson:

=On 19Mar2009 18:55, Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote:
= Cameron Simpson wrote:
= Ok, but I strongly recommend you never us a regexp unquoted - the
= necessary backslash nesting gets nasty real fast. A better way is like
= this:
=   re='s/b/h/'
=   sed -e $re
=[...]
= The point here, unrelated to the pipe exit status issue, is to keep the
= sed stuff easy to write and undamaged by shell substitution. [...]
=
= Another person sent me private email
= warning of the double-quotes, but thanks
= for your information, it is interesting!
=
= This is what I ended up doing, so please give
= your constructive critiques, if you so like?
=
=Untested, but here is how I would write each of you code pieces were I doing
=it myself:
=
= TRACKER=Tracker.log
= SFILE=Bad_Hosts_File.txt
= TFILE=Bad_Hosts_File_$$.txt
=
=tracker=Tracker.log
=sfile=Bad_Hosts_File.txt
=tfile=Bad_Hosts_File_$$.txt
=
=Your quotes are unneeded here. Plenty of people find the  marks and in
=similar cases, to use ${foo} instead of $foo elsewhere, but I find the
=syntactic noise annoying if there's no other necessity.
=
=Also, you should never use UPPER CASE names for script local variables (i.e.
=that are not to be exported). I give some background why here:
=
=  http://markmail.org/message/awimhb3nmu6ssvwp

One historical tidbit I'd like to share with you. Back when the TRex was 
tromping around, I worked at Data General during Soul Of A New Machine. 
The deal there was that all external variables under AOS had to be 
uppercase. The reason for this was because we sometimes needed to access 
variables by name at link-time and the CLI (Command Line Interface, a sort 
of macro processor) was case insensitive, so all commands caused 
everything to be flipped to uppercase, no matter what we wanted. The 
result was that all external variables ended up as uppercase, just in 
case. :-)


=
= pat=EACC
=
=pat=EACC
=
= re1=-e '/$pat/s/^.*Received:\[from\s\+\(.*\)\s\+(.*/\1/'
= re2=-e '/^.*cdkkt.com$/d'
=
=Note that this $ should probably be backslashed. As it happens, $/ is
=not a shell special variable, so it is left alone. However, has you used
=$# or one of the others ($!, et al) there would have been substitution
=done, mangling your sed code.
=
= rex=sed $re1 $re2
=
=I would strongly reommend putting this in a sed script file, perhaps
=like this:
=
=  cat sedf$$ X
=/$pat/s/^.*Received:\[from\s\+\(.*\)\s\+(.*/\1/
=/^.*cdkkt.com\$/d
=  X
=  rex=sed -f sedf$$
=
=Hmm, actually, maybe not. Maybe like this:
=
=  sedline=/$pat/s/^.*Received:\[from\s\+\(.*\)\s\+(.*/\1/; /^.*cdkkt.com\$/d
=
=and then:
=
=  sed -e $sedline
=
=in your pipeline lower down.
=
= echo -en \033[0;36m \033[0;35mExtracting data from:\n \
=  [\033[0;34m${TRACKER}\033[0;35m and appending to\n \
=  [\033[0;34m${TFILE}\033[0;35m]\033[0m
=
=I usually put escape sequences into their own variables for readbility,
=like this:
=
=  http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/rc/shell/colour_ansi
=
=Then you can talk about ${tty_green}, ${tty_normal} etc in your text;
=somewhat more readable. You can do even better than this, actually.
=Since not all terminals use the ANSI colour escapes, it is better to use
=tput, like this:
=
=  http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/css/bin/with-colour
=
=and then in your script:
=
=  esc_tracker=`with-colour green echo $TRACKER`
=
=and then use ${esc_tracker} in messages. And so forth.
=
= out=$(grep $pat ${TRACKER} | \
=  eval $rex | sort -n | \
=  uniq  ${TFILE}); ret=$?;
=
= if [ $ret -gt 0 ] || \
=   [ $PIPESTATUS[0] -gt 0 ] || \
=   [ $PIPESTATUS[1] -gt 0 ] || \
=   [ $PIPESTATUS[2] -gt 0 ] || \
=   [ $PIPESTATUS[3] -gt 0 ]; then
=   echo -e  \033[0;31mFailed.\n   \
=   \033[0;35m-- ErrorStatus:ret=$ret,\
=  PipeStatus:$pipestat...@]\n\
=  -- out:$out\033[0m
=   echo -e \033[0;31m \033[0;31m$PROG exited.\033[0m\n
=   exit 1
= fi
= echo -e  \033[0;32mDone.\033[0m;
=
= I guess the ugly part is the multiple $PIPESTATUS[n]
= in the if statement test block. but perhaps this is the best
= I can do?
=
=Nah. You can do this:
=
=  if out=$(grep $pat $tracker | $rex | sort -un $tfile)
  

Please note:

When I tried `sort -un', the data was truncated, i.e.
there is data loss.  So, when I went back to my original
code using 'sort -n | uniq',  there is no data loss.  There
seems to be a problem using the `sort -un' method.

What I do in my code, is to create a copy of the sorted
and uniq'd original file to a temp file, and then append
new data to the temp file, then sorted and uniq the temp
file back into the original file. The result was a file that
ended up much smaller than the original file!

=  then
=case  $PIPESTATUS in
=  *' '[1-9]*)
=echo exit ok, but PIPESTATUS=$PIPESTATUS
=;;
=  *)echo exit ok and PIPESTATUS all zeroes
=;;
=esac
=  else
=echo exit not ok
=  fi
=
=Um, you are aware that $out will always be empty? 

Re: F10 Things Breaking

2009-03-21 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Saturday 21 March 2009 23:05, Conor Mac Aoidh wrote:
 I have been having problems with my Fedora 10 installation recently. I
 don't know what it is but a hell of a lot of things are breaking. First I
 installed an upgrade that broke Yum, which I have fixed. Then I installed
 another update that seems to have broken a number of things

What exactly did you do? If you use yum to install stuff, it should not break. 
If you manually installed something (why?), that is probably the reason that 
things got broken.

 Also I recently installed the kooldock which operates similar to a Mac OSX
 dock. It was working but now when I click on one of the doc items I get the
 following error:

Kooldock is a very lame substitute for the real Mac OSX dock (tried both 
myself). Incidentally, that real Mac OSX dock is called cairo-dock, and is 
available for Fedora:

yum install cairo-dock

Maybe you need to have rpmfusion repo enabled, I am not sure... :-)

 I would appreciate if anyone could figure out what the hell is going on
 because it's really starting to annoy me! I have tried forums but no one
 seems to know the answer!

You have probably broken your own system yourself. Basic rules: never install 
a rpm binary by hand unless you are sure it is packaged for F10 and you are 
sure you know exactly what you are doing. And if it is packaged for F10, use 
yum instead of manually installing. If you compiled something from source, be 
sure to install it in /usr/local so that it doesn't conflict with existing 
packages (of course, you can't be 100% sure even then).

If you tell us how did you manage to install an upgrade that broke Yum, 
maybe someone can help to clean things up. Otherwise, you get to keep the 
pieces...

HTH :-)
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Re: F10 Things Breaking

2009-03-21 Thread Conor Mac Aoidh
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu wrote:

 Conor Mac Aoidh wrote:

 Then my desktop widgets (I'm using KDE) stopped working. I get the
  following error in a black box where the widgets used to be:

 yum install kdebase-workspace-googlegadgets


Thanks that seems to have done the trick. I can't understand how they were
working and then they stopped. I didn't uninstall anything...



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Re: F10 Things Breaking

2009-03-21 Thread Rex Dieter
Conor Mac Aoidh wrote:

 On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu wrote:
 
 Conor Mac Aoidh wrote:

 Then my desktop widgets (I'm using KDE) stopped working. I get the
  following error in a black box where the widgets used to be:

 yum install kdebase-workspace-googlegadgets

 
 Thanks that seems to have done the trick. I can't understand how they were
 working and then they stopped. I didn't uninstall anything...

There was a window of time where this functionality was provided in the main 
kdebase-workspace pkg, and then it was split out.  Sorry for the hassle.

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Re: F10 Things Breaking

2009-03-21 Thread Conor Mac Aoidh
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Marko Vojinovic vvma...@panet.co.yuwrote:

 On Saturday 21 March 2009 23:05, Conor Mac Aoidh wrote:
  I have been having problems with my Fedora 10 installation recently. I
  don't know what it is but a hell of a lot of things are breaking. First I
  installed an upgrade that broke Yum, which I have fixed. Then I installed
  another update that seems to have broken a number of things

 What exactly did you do? If you use yum to install stuff, it should not
 break.
 If you manually installed something (why?), that is probably the reason
 that
 things got broken.


I try my best to only install stuff with yum. It's not possible all of the
time though... What is the point of having a package manager if it does not
manage your packages!?

 Also I recently installed the kooldock which operates similar to a Mac OSX
  dock. It was working but now when I click on one of the doc items I get
 the
  following error:

 Kooldock is a very lame substitute for the real Mac OSX dock (tried both
 myself). Incidentally, that real Mac OSX dock is called cairo-dock, and
 is
 available for Fedora:

 yum install cairo-dock


I actually used cairo-dock before and got rid of it. I think that kooldock
is much better. I couldn't get cairo to do transparent backgrounds and
kooldock is much more customisable.

Maybe you need to have rpmfusion repo enabled, I am not sure... :-)



How do I check? Is that a dis-advantage?

 I would appreciate if anyone could figure out what the hell is going on
  because it's really starting to annoy me! I have tried forums but no one
  seems to know the answer!

 You have probably broken your own system yourself. Basic rules: never
 install
 a rpm binary by hand unless you are sure it is packaged for F10 and you are
 sure you know exactly what you are doing. And if it is packaged for F10,
 use
 yum instead of manually installing. If you compiled something from source,
 be
 sure to install it in /usr/local so that it doesn't conflict with existing
 packages (of course, you can't be 100% sure even then).


I don't do that anyway...

If you tell us how did you manage to install an upgrade that broke Yum,
 maybe someone can help to clean things up. Otherwise, you get to keep the
 pieces...


I really don't think that I have done anything to cause these things
breaking... But then again I'm no Linux genius! For example I discovered
that the sound problem that I have been having recently was caused by a
kernal update. There's more info on that here:
http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Fedora/2009-01/msg01187.html

As for the Yum problem, I don't know exactly what happened. Yum was working
fine then I installed an update and from then on I could not use Yum, not
even to install updates. I fixed it by running this:

rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db*
rpm --rebuilddb



Thanks

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Re: F10 and built-in Intel graphics

2009-03-21 Thread Antonio Olivares




--- On Sat, 3/21/09, Matthew Saltzman m...@clemson.edu wrote:

 From: Matthew Saltzman m...@clemson.edu
 Subject: Re: F10 and built-in Intel graphics
 To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. 
 fedora-list@redhat.com
 Date: Saturday, March 21, 2009, 3:02 PM
 On Sat, 2009-03-21 at 21:52 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
  Mike Cloaked wrote:
   I have not tried kmod-nvidia yet but even with
 default drivers in F10 it
   works like a charm - 3d is later to try!
  
  Unfortunately, 3D will be completely nonexistent
 without proprietary drivers
  on that NVidia card.
 
 Well, there is the nouveau driver.  Not sure how stable or
 fast that is
 at this point, though.

I can say that it is useless, just like you say about the Omega Live CD 
because it does not have KDE :(, I would beg to differ because it is just a yum 
install KDE Desktop Environment away :)

I actually have more to back me up:

Kernel failure message 1:
BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 0008
IP: [f8ebe481] :nouveau:nouveau_channel_idle+0x3f/0x9b
*pdpt = 33cc4001 *pde = 00012f597067 
Oops:  [#1] SMP 
Modules linked in: nouveau drm slamr(P) ungrab_winmodem bridge stp bnep sco 
l2cap bluetooth sunrpc ip6t_REJECT nf_conntrack_ipv6 ip6table_filter ip6_tables 
ipv6 cpufreq_ondemand acpi_cpufreq dm_multipath uinput snd_hda_intel 
snd_seq_dummy snd_seq_oss snd_seq_midi_event arc4 snd_seq ecb snd_seq_device 
crypto_blkcipher snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss firewire_ohci snd_pcm firewire_core 
crc_itu_t snd_timer snd_page_alloc snd_hwdep i2c_i801 sky2 i2c_core r8169 mii 
pata_jmicron snd soundcore iTCO_wdt iTCO_vendor_support usb_storage rtl8187 
mac80211 eeprom_93cx6 cfg80211 pcspkr ata_generic pata_acpi [last unloaded: 
microcode]
Mar 19 05:42:08 localhost kernel: Pid: 2970, comm: X Tainted: P  
(2.6.27.19-170.2.35.fc10.i686.PAE #1) P5K Deluxe
EIP: 0060:[f8ebe481] EFLAGS: 00213297 CPU: 2
EIP is at nouveau_channel_idle+0x3f/0x9b [nouveau]
EAX:  EBX: f3c89900 ECX: 0010 EDX: fc002500
ESI: f596a800 EDI: 0010 EBP: f3ca2e90 ESP: f3ca2e84
DS: 007b ES: 007b FS: 00d8 GS: 0033 SS: 0068
Process X (pid: 2970, ti=f3ca2000 task=f4a60cd0 task.ti=f3ca2000)
Stack: f596a800 f3c89900 f5526000 f3ca2eac f8ebe575 9a56b520 0036 ffea 
  fffe f3c89900 f3ca2eec f8ebeaac f596aa98 f5526000 f596a800 0001 
  0001 0001 f442e300 1000   f596a800 f596a800 
Call Trace:
[f8ebe575] ? nouveau_fifo_free+0x70/0x149 [nouveau]
[f8ebeaac] ? nouveau_fifo_alloc+0x3a5/0x3a7 [nouveau]
[f8ec3704] ? nouveau_dma_channel_init+0x86/0x52a [nouveau]
[f8ebe3fc] ? nouveau_card_init+0x72e/0x73f [nouveau]
[f8ebe415] ? nouveau_ioctl_card_init+0x8/0xb [nouveau]
[f8dc4604] ? drm_ioctl+0x1b0/0x225 [drm]
[f8ebe40d] ? nouveau_ioctl_card_init+0x0/0xb [nouveau]
[c04a2868] ? vfs_ioctl+0x50/0x69
[c04a2abc] ? do_vfs_ioctl+0x23b/0x247
[c0500700] ? selinux_file_ioctl+0x35/0x38
[c04a2b08] ? sys_ioctl+0x40/0x5c
[c0408b8b] ? sysenter_do_call+0x12/0x34
===
Code: 52 10 81 c2 00 25 00 00 8b 3a 8b 56 14 89 f9 83 e1 fe 8b 52 10 81 c2 00 
25 00 00 89 0a ff 96 84 02 00 00 3b 43 04 74 29 8b 43 44 8b 48 08 8b 46 1c 8b 
51 0c 8b 40 10 03 42 08 8b 18 8b 41 0c 8b 
EIP: [f8ebe481] nouveau_channel_idle+0x3f/0x9b [nouveau] SS:ESP 0068:f3ca2e84
---[ end trace ac414115b22fcdf6 ]---

I have a quad core machine, and if I want to play a DVD, I get a message that 
my computer is too slow to play it :(, how sad don't you think?  

xine and mplayer give me the same bull :(, 

I tried Xorg -configure and it gave me back nouveau driver, I type startx and 
it fails to start, have to reboot to get message above.  I guess I do have to 
try to get the nvidia drivers as much as I would normally hate to do so :(  

 
  
  Kevin Kofler
  
  
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 mjs AT clemson DOT edu
 http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs
 
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Regards,

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Re: F10 and built-in Intel graphics

2009-03-21 Thread Antonio Olivares

Mathew,

I am sorry to post this, I meant it toward Kevin.  I hope not to have offended 
you.  I apologize in advance and hope that it is not too late.

 
 I can say that it is useless, just like you say
 about the Omega Live CD because it does not have
 KDE :(, I would beg to differ because it is just a yum
 install KDE Desktop Environment away :)
 
 I actually have more to back me up:
 
 Kernel failure message 1:
 BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at
 0008
 IP: [f8ebe481]
 :nouveau:nouveau_channel_idle+0x3f/0x9b
 *pdpt = 33cc4001 *pde = 00012f597067 
 Oops:  [#1] SMP 
 Modules linked in: nouveau drm slamr(P) ungrab_winmodem
 bridge stp bnep sco l2cap bluetooth sunrpc ip6t_REJECT
 nf_conntrack_ipv6 ip6table_filter ip6_tables ipv6
 cpufreq_ondemand acpi_cpufreq dm_multipath uinput
 snd_hda_intel snd_seq_dummy snd_seq_oss snd_seq_midi_event
 arc4 snd_seq ecb snd_seq_device crypto_blkcipher snd_pcm_oss
 snd_mixer_oss firewire_ohci snd_pcm firewire_core crc_itu_t
 snd_timer snd_page_alloc snd_hwdep i2c_i801 sky2 i2c_core
 r8169 mii pata_jmicron snd soundcore iTCO_wdt
 iTCO_vendor_support usb_storage rtl8187 mac80211
 eeprom_93cx6 cfg80211 pcspkr ata_generic pata_acpi [last
 unloaded: microcode]
 Mar 19 05:42:08 localhost kernel: Pid: 2970, comm: X
 Tainted: P  (2.6.27.19-170.2.35.fc10.i686.PAE #1)
 P5K Deluxe
 EIP: 0060:[f8ebe481] EFLAGS: 00213297 CPU: 2
 EIP is at nouveau_channel_idle+0x3f/0x9b [nouveau]
 EAX:  EBX: f3c89900 ECX: 0010 EDX: fc002500
 ESI: f596a800 EDI: 0010 EBP: f3ca2e90 ESP: f3ca2e84
 DS: 007b ES: 007b FS: 00d8 GS: 0033 SS: 0068
 Process X (pid: 2970, ti=f3ca2000 task=f4a60cd0
 task.ti=f3ca2000)
 Stack: f596a800 f3c89900 f5526000 f3ca2eac f8ebe575
 9a56b520 0036 ffea 
   fffe f3c89900 f3ca2eec f8ebeaac f596aa98 f5526000
 f596a800 0001 
   0001 0001 f442e300 1000  
 f596a800 f596a800 
 Call Trace:
 [f8ebe575] ? nouveau_fifo_free+0x70/0x149 [nouveau]
 [f8ebeaac] ? nouveau_fifo_alloc+0x3a5/0x3a7
 [nouveau]
 [f8ec3704] ? nouveau_dma_channel_init+0x86/0x52a
 [nouveau]
 [f8ebe3fc] ? nouveau_card_init+0x72e/0x73f
 [nouveau]
 [f8ebe415] ? nouveau_ioctl_card_init+0x8/0xb
 [nouveau]
 [f8dc4604] ? drm_ioctl+0x1b0/0x225 [drm]
 [f8ebe40d] ? nouveau_ioctl_card_init+0x0/0xb
 [nouveau]
 [c04a2868] ? vfs_ioctl+0x50/0x69
 [c04a2abc] ? do_vfs_ioctl+0x23b/0x247
 [c0500700] ? selinux_file_ioctl+0x35/0x38
 [c04a2b08] ? sys_ioctl+0x40/0x5c
 [c0408b8b] ? sysenter_do_call+0x12/0x34
 ===
 Code: 52 10 81 c2 00 25 00 00 8b 3a 8b 56 14 89 f9 83 e1 fe
 8b 52 10 81 c2 00 25 00 00 89 0a ff 96 84 02 00 00 3b 43 04
 74 29 8b 43 44 8b 48 08 8b 46 1c 8b 51 0c 8b 40 10
 03 42 08 8b 18 8b 41 0c 8b 
 EIP: [f8ebe481] nouveau_channel_idle+0x3f/0x9b
 [nouveau] SS:ESP 0068:f3ca2e84
 ---[ end trace ac414115b22fcdf6 ]---
 
 I have a quad core machine, and if I want to play a DVD, I
 get a message that my computer is too slow to play it :(,
 how sad don't you think?  
 
 xine and mplayer give me the same bull :(, 
 
 I tried Xorg -configure and it gave me back nouveau driver,
 I type startx and it fails to start, have to reboot to get
 message above.  I guess I do have to try to get the nvidia
 drivers as much as I would normally hate to do so :(  
 
  
   
   Kevin Kofler

Kevin, 
I am sorry also to reply that way, but you mentioned that the Omega Live CD was 
useless and I wanted to reply to your message but instead replied to Mathew's 
message.  I am sorry to offend, but I felt bad and just vented out some 
frustration.

Please accept my aplogies.  

Regards,

Antonio 


  

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Re: So how safe is Firefox these days?

2009-03-21 Thread Rahul Sundaram
jimbob palmer wrote:
 Hello,
 
 A year or so ago (if I remember correctly), selinux contained a bunch
 of policy hacks to make firefox work.
 
 Does firefox now have a normal 100% safe selinux policy, or does
 firefox still do weird stuff?

Refer

http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/15700.html

Rahul

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Re: fedora LTS , why not?

2009-03-21 Thread Armin
  For this example: I mean that some ubuntu multimedia software ask you
  installing codecs when needed!! And they install the appropriate one.
  This unfortunatly does not exist in Fedora
 
 
  Regards

That codec-buddy, I saw it first in Fedora!

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Re: F10 and built-in Intel graphics

2009-03-21 Thread Kevin Kofler
Antonio Olivares wrote:
 I am sorry to post this, I meant it toward Kevin.  I hope not to have
 offended you.  I apologize in advance and hope that it is not too late.

FWIW, I know that nouveau has no working 3D support yet. That's exactly why
I wrote that 3D will be completely nonexistent.

Kevin Kofler

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Re: F10 and built-in Intel graphics

2009-03-21 Thread Kevin Kofler
Antonio Olivares wrote:
 I can say that it is useless, just like you say about the Omega Live
 CD because it does not have KDE :(, I would beg to differ because it is
 just a yum install KDE Desktop Environment away :)

If you have to post-install stuff anyway, why bother with an all inclusive
remix? You can also install the stuff from RPM Fusion and Livna with a
simple yum install.

Kevin Kofler

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Re: F10 Things Breaking

2009-03-21 Thread Kevin Kofler
Marko Vojinovic wrote:
 Kooldock is a very lame substitute for the real Mac OSX dock (tried both
 myself). Incidentally, that real Mac OSX dock is called cairo-dock, and
 is available for Fedora:
 
 yum install cairo-dock

That's also an imitation. The original is proprietary and will most likely
never be available outside of OS X itself.

Kevin Kofler

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Re: Bash help requested: Capturing command errors within pipes

2009-03-21 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 21Mar2009 16:47, Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote:
 = out=$(grep $pat ${TRACKER} | \
 =  eval $rex | sort -n | \
 =  uniq  ${TFILE}); ret=$?;
[...]
 =  if out=$(grep $pat $tracker | $rex | sort -un $tfile)
   
 Please note:

 When I tried `sort -un', the data was truncated, i.e.
 there is data loss.  So, when I went back to my original
 code using 'sort -n | uniq',  there is no data loss.  There
 seems to be a problem using the `sort -un' method.

Well, they do mean slightly different things.

sort -un sorts and returns the first row of each set of rows that
sorted equal. (i.e. 1 foo and 1 bah sort equal (numeric) and only 1
foo is returned. (See man sort for the details, and man 1p sort for
what you may portably expect on multiple UNIX platforms.)

uniq discards repeated identical lines. 1 foo and 1 foo are
identical, but not 1 bah. (And uniq requires sorted input; the
repeated lines must be adjacent in the input.)

It is often correct to replace sort -n | uniq with sort -un, but I was
clearly wrong to do so here.

 What I do in my code, is to create a copy of the sorted
 and uniq'd original file to a temp file, and then append
 new data to the temp file, then sorted and uniq the temp
 file back into the original file. The result was a file that
 ended up much smaller than the original file!

Yah, see discussion above.

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Re: F10 Things Breaking

2009-03-21 Thread Armin
On Saturday 21 March 2009 23:38:30 Kevin Kofler wrote:
 Marko Vojinovic wrote:
  Kooldock is a very lame substitute for the real Mac OSX dock (tried
  both myself). Incidentally, that real Mac OSX dock is called
  cairo-dock, and is available for Fedora:
 
  yum install cairo-dock

 That's also an imitation. The original is proprietary and will most likely
 never be available outside of OS X itself.

 Kevin Kofler

They have even patented the OSX dock just in case!  These evil proprietary 
 (put some random swear word)!

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Re: F10 and built-in Intel graphics

2009-03-21 Thread Antonio Olivares




--- On Sat, 3/21/09, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:

 From: Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at
 Subject: Re: F10 and built-in Intel graphics
 To: fedora-list@redhat.com
 Date: Saturday, March 21, 2009, 7:34 PM
 Antonio Olivares wrote:
  I can say that it is useless, just like
 you say about the Omega Live
  CD because it does not have KDE :(, I would beg
 to differ because it is
  just a yum install KDE Desktop Environment
 away :)
 
 If you have to post-install stuff anyway, why bother with
 an all inclusive
 remix? You can also install the stuff from RPM Fusion and
 Livna with a
 simple yum install.
 
 Kevin Kofler
 
 -- 

True!  They(Developers of Omega) should also make KDE,XFCE  and why not LXDE 
spins of the Omega Live CD.  This of course if it is possible and this way, 
*reminds me of the No Child Left Behind Act, for schools**,  No Desktop is 
left Behind :)  This to have justice and equal treatment for all!  

Regards,

Antonio 


  

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Re: F10 Things Breaking

2009-03-21 Thread Mamoru Tasaka

Marko Vojinovic wrote, at 03/22/2009 09:14 AM +9:00:

On Saturday 21 March 2009 23:05, Conor Mac Aoidh wrote:

I have been having problems with my Fedora 10 installation recently. I
don't know what it is but a hell of a lot of things are breaking. First I
installed an upgrade that broke Yum, which I have fixed. Then I installed
another update that seems to have broken a number of things


What exactly did you do? If you use yum to install stuff, it should not break. 
If you manually installed something (why?), that is probably the reason that 
things got broken.



Also I recently installed the kooldock which operates similar to a Mac OSX
dock. It was working but now when I click on one of the doc items I get the
following error:


Kooldock is a very lame substitute for the real Mac OSX dock (tried both 
myself). Incidentally, that real Mac OSX dock is called cairo-dock, and is 
available for Fedora:


yum install cairo-dock


Just a note:

Red Hat Legal felt that these two packages (kooldock and cairo-dock) have
the possibility of infringing Apple's software patent and removed these
two packages from rawhide tree. That is, these two pacakges will no longer
be available on Fedora 11.

Regards,
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Re: F10 and built-in Intel graphics

2009-03-21 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Antonio Olivares wrote:
 
 
 
 --- On Sat, 3/21/09, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:

 If you have to post-install stuff anyway, why bother with
 an all inclusive
 remix? You can also install the stuff from RPM Fusion and
 Livna with a
 simple yum install.

 Kevin Kofler

 -- 
 
 True!  They(Developers of Omega) should also make KDE,XFCE  and why not LXDE 
 spins of the Omega Live CD.  This of course if it is possible and this way, 
 *reminds me of the No Child Left Behind Act, for schools**,  No Desktop is 
 left Behind :)  This to have justice and equal treatment for all!  
 

No time for building and testing all the different variants. If you want
it to happen, step up and do the work. No amount of complaining is going
to change the fact that I don't have time to build more variants.

Rahul

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Bluetooth push from phone doesn't work

2009-03-21 Thread Sam Varshavchik
In the bluetooth applet, I have visibility setting at always visible. 
Fedora sees my phone, and I can pair with it. After pairing, I can use 
Browse files on the device to pull files from the phone.


However, if I try to send a file from my phone, the phone complains that it 
does not see any bluetooth devices. Fedora has no problem seeing my phone, 
but the phone does not see my laptop. Again, Fedora's bluetooth applet shows 
that visibility is set to always visible, yet the phone doesn't see it. 
It spins its wheel, for a minute, looking for Bluetooth devices to send a 
file to, then complains that it didn't find any.




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Re: Maple on Fedora

2009-03-21 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier
| From: Hiisi very-c...@rambler.ru

| Maple is not open source (free). It was main argument for me to choose another
| symbolic arithmetic program - maxima ( maxima.sourceforge.net ). It's
| brilliant.

My daughter bought Mathmatica for a project perhaps five years ago.
She ran it on RHL9 or something like it.  Anyway, she would have to
relicence it to move it to a newer distro release or machine so she still
runs it on the same ancient machine.

If she had bought it for Windows XP, it would have had a much longer
lifetime.

Lesson: proprietary licensing models work even worse on open platforms
because open platform have a tradition of binary obsolescence.

Perhaps Maplesoft has a better upgrade model than Wolfram.

The only symbolic algebra package I ever bought was muMATH for the
z80: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MuMATH
I never got it to work due to its kind of copy protection.  There's
a theme here.

PARI/GP worked well for my modest needs but it would not work for
yours.

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Re: fedora LTS , why not?

2009-03-21 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Tosh toshli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Please note, CentOS IS A COMMERCIAL SUCCESS
 Many bigger enterprises use CentOS, but they do not advertise it and it is
 very popular for small  medium enterprises
 CentOS/Fedora does lacks the same consumer fame like Ubuntu
 Two main reasons according to me :
 (1) Commercial backing = limited funding = less advertisement
 (2) Perception amongst users and the media = leading to less knowledge how
 to use the product


It might be worth suggesting to the CentOS developer community to look
at adopting MirrorManager and its support for local network mirror
administration and to start to collect aggregate data concerning the
number of client systems looking at the centralized Centos
MirrorManager instance.  Getting hard numbers on the number of Centos
installs the same way Fedora is could really help raise the level of
awareness of how pervasise Cento is is out in the wild.

I think Centos is flying under the radar a bit too much, but for that
to change Centos users need to be encouraged to be a little more vocal
about its use.

-jef.

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Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora Twitter Identica

2009-03-21 Thread Karsten Wade
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 06:30:28AM -0400, Kam Salisbury wrote:
 Yay!
 
 Fedora on Twitter.com passed 600 followers!
 
 Fedora on Identi.ca passed 40 followers!

Fantastic.  It looks like we are posting to identi.ca, and that is
auto-posting to Twitter?

Also, if someone who has access to the account gets a chance, can you
update the 'Bio' to the four freedoms?  Something such as:

I am Freedom, Friends, Features, and First.

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Re: GSoC marketing update

2009-03-21 Thread Ricky Zhou
On 2009-03-20 03:50:24 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 Karsten Wade wrote:
  Fortunately, Fedora made the list of mentoring organizations for this
  year's Google Summer of Code[1].
  
  For the next few weeks, final ideas are going to be posted, students
  will look them over, and begin proposing projects.  Mentors work with
  student proposals to improve them -- get the scope and timeline well
  considered, for example.
  
  My marketeer gut says, Get even more proposals and mentors in this
  year, so even if we get fewer student slots in a rescaled GSoC, they
  are the most passionate and dedicated students.
  
  Along those lines, I asked the Ambassadors to keep on the hunt.[2]
  Oh, and to consider being mentors to get some of their development
  ideas completed.
  
  Any other ideas of where else to go and who to ask?
 
 Are we running banner ads for this in the frontpage?
That sounds like a great idea (forwarding this to the fedora-art-list).

Thanks,
Ricky


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[Bug 456144] Package build failed

2009-03-21 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=456144


Johan Kok johan-fed...@deds.nl changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||gvari...@redhat.com




--- Comment #8 from Johan Kok johan-fed...@deds.nl  2009-03-21 08:25:08 EDT 
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*** Bug 479124 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Bug 479124] Please update to amavisd-new-2.6.2

2009-03-21 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=479124


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 Status|NEW |CLOSED
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--- Comment #1 from Johan Kok johan-fed...@deds.nl  2009-03-21 08:25:08 EDT 
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Thanks for the report. Bug #456144 is already about updating amavisd-new to the
most recent upstream version. To keep track of progress in one place, I'm
closing this issue as a duplicate.

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rpms/perl-Data-Denter/devel import.log, NONE, 1.1 perl-Data-Denter.spec, NONE, 1.1 .cvsignore, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.1, 1.2

2009-03-21 Thread Chris Weyl
Author: cweyl

Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-Data-Denter/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv26526/devel

Modified Files:
.cvsignore sources 
Added Files:
import.log perl-Data-Denter.spec 
Log Message:
Initial import.


--- NEW FILE import.log ---
perl-Data-Denter-0_15-1_fc10:HEAD:perl-Data-Denter-0.15-1.fc10.src.rpm:1237663803


--- NEW FILE perl-Data-Denter.spec ---
Name:   perl-Data-Denter 
Version:0.15 
Release:1%{?dist}
# Denter.pod - GPL+ or Artistic
License:GPL+ or Artistic 
Group:  Development/Libraries
Summary:An alternative to Data::Dumper and Storable 
Source: 
http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/I/IN/INGY/Data-Denter-%{version}.tar.gz 
Url:http://search.cpan.org/dist/Data-Denter
BuildRoot:  %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n) 
Requires:   perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_%(eval `%{__perl} -V:version`; echo $version))
BuildArch:  noarch

BuildRequires: perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker)
BuildRequires: perl(YAML)
# test
BuildRequires: perl(Data::Dumper)
BuildRequires: perl(Test)

%description
The main problem with Data::Dumper (one of my all-time favorite modules)
is that you have to use 'eval()' to deserialize the data you've dumped.
This is great if you can trust the data you're evaling, but horrible if
you can't. A good alternative is Storable.pm. It can safely thaw your
frozen data.  But if you want to read/edit the frozen data, you're out of
luck, because Storable uses a binary format. Even Data::Dumper's output
can be a little cumbersome for larger data objects. Enter Data::Denter. 

Data::Denter is yet another Perl data serializer/deserializer. It formats
nested data structures in an indented fashion. It is optimized for human
readability/editability, safe deserialization, and (eventually) speed.


%prep
%setup -q -n Data-Denter-%{version}

%build
%{__perl} Makefile.PL INSTALLDIRS=vendor
make %{?_smp_mflags}

%install
rm -rf %{buildroot}

make pure_install PERL_INSTALL_ROOT=%{buildroot}
find %{buildroot} -type f -name .packlist -exec rm -f {} ';'
find %{buildroot} -depth -type d -exec rmdir {} 2/dev/null ';'

%{_fixperms} %{buildroot}/*

%check
make test

%clean
rm -rf %{buildroot} 

%files
%defattr(-,root,root,-)
%doc Changes README 
%{perl_vendorlib}/*
%{_mandir}/man3/*.3*

%changelog
* Wed Mar 18 2009 Chris Weyl cw...@alumni.drew.edu 0.15-1
- update for submission

* Wed Mar 18 2009 Chris Weyl cw...@alumni.drew.edu 0.15-0
- initial RPM packaging
- generated with cpan2dist (CPANPLUS::Dist::RPM version 0.0.8)



Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-Data-Denter/devel/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -r1.1 -r1.2
--- .cvsignore  20 Mar 2009 03:12:27 -  1.1
+++ .cvsignore  21 Mar 2009 19:30:11 -  1.2
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+Data-Denter-0.15.tar.gz


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-Data-Denter/devel/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -r1.1 -r1.2
--- sources 20 Mar 2009 03:12:27 -  1.1
+++ sources 21 Mar 2009 19:30:12 -  1.2
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+819e5c05fb61e90f4c1311286b080405  Data-Denter-0.15.tar.gz

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rpms/perl-Data-Denter/F-9 import.log, NONE, 1.1 perl-Data-Denter.spec, NONE, 1.1 .cvsignore, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.1, 1.2

2009-03-21 Thread Chris Weyl
Author: cweyl

Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-Data-Denter/F-9
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv8100/F-9

Modified Files:
.cvsignore sources 
Added Files:
import.log perl-Data-Denter.spec 
Log Message:
Initial import.


--- NEW FILE import.log ---
perl-Data-Denter-0_15-1_fc10:F-9:perl-Data-Denter-0.15-1.fc10.src.rpm:1237676823


--- NEW FILE perl-Data-Denter.spec ---
Name:   perl-Data-Denter 
Version:0.15 
Release:1%{?dist}
# Denter.pod - GPL+ or Artistic
License:GPL+ or Artistic 
Group:  Development/Libraries
Summary:An alternative to Data::Dumper and Storable 
Source: 
http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/I/IN/INGY/Data-Denter-%{version}.tar.gz 
Url:http://search.cpan.org/dist/Data-Denter
BuildRoot:  %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n) 
Requires:   perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_%(eval `%{__perl} -V:version`; echo $version))
BuildArch:  noarch

BuildRequires: perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker)
BuildRequires: perl(YAML)
# test
BuildRequires: perl(Data::Dumper)
BuildRequires: perl(Test)

%description
The main problem with Data::Dumper (one of my all-time favorite modules)
is that you have to use 'eval()' to deserialize the data you've dumped.
This is great if you can trust the data you're evaling, but horrible if
you can't. A good alternative is Storable.pm. It can safely thaw your
frozen data.  But if you want to read/edit the frozen data, you're out of
luck, because Storable uses a binary format. Even Data::Dumper's output
can be a little cumbersome for larger data objects. Enter Data::Denter. 

Data::Denter is yet another Perl data serializer/deserializer. It formats
nested data structures in an indented fashion. It is optimized for human
readability/editability, safe deserialization, and (eventually) speed.


%prep
%setup -q -n Data-Denter-%{version}

%build
%{__perl} Makefile.PL INSTALLDIRS=vendor
make %{?_smp_mflags}

%install
rm -rf %{buildroot}

make pure_install PERL_INSTALL_ROOT=%{buildroot}
find %{buildroot} -type f -name .packlist -exec rm -f {} ';'
find %{buildroot} -depth -type d -exec rmdir {} 2/dev/null ';'

%{_fixperms} %{buildroot}/*

%check
make test

%clean
rm -rf %{buildroot} 

%files
%defattr(-,root,root,-)
%doc Changes README 
%{perl_vendorlib}/*
%{_mandir}/man3/*.3*

%changelog
* Wed Mar 18 2009 Chris Weyl cw...@alumni.drew.edu 0.15-1
- update for submission

* Wed Mar 18 2009 Chris Weyl cw...@alumni.drew.edu 0.15-0
- initial RPM packaging
- generated with cpan2dist (CPANPLUS::Dist::RPM version 0.0.8)



Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-Data-Denter/F-9/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -r1.1 -r1.2
--- .cvsignore  20 Mar 2009 03:12:27 -  1.1
+++ .cvsignore  21 Mar 2009 23:07:12 -  1.2
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+Data-Denter-0.15.tar.gz


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-Data-Denter/F-9/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -r1.1 -r1.2
--- sources 20 Mar 2009 03:12:27 -  1.1
+++ sources 21 Mar 2009 23:07:12 -  1.2
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+819e5c05fb61e90f4c1311286b080405  Data-Denter-0.15.tar.gz

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rpms/perl-Data-Denter/F-10 import.log, NONE, 1.1 perl-Data-Denter.spec, NONE, 1.1 .cvsignore, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.1, 1.2

2009-03-21 Thread Chris Weyl
Author: cweyl

Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-Data-Denter/F-10
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv11516/F-10

Modified Files:
.cvsignore sources 
Added Files:
import.log perl-Data-Denter.spec 
Log Message:
Initial import.


--- NEW FILE import.log ---
perl-Data-Denter-0_15-1_fc10:F-10:perl-Data-Denter-0.15-1.fc10.src.rpm:1237677584


--- NEW FILE perl-Data-Denter.spec ---
Name:   perl-Data-Denter 
Version:0.15 
Release:1%{?dist}
# Denter.pod - GPL+ or Artistic
License:GPL+ or Artistic 
Group:  Development/Libraries
Summary:An alternative to Data::Dumper and Storable 
Source: 
http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/I/IN/INGY/Data-Denter-%{version}.tar.gz 
Url:http://search.cpan.org/dist/Data-Denter
BuildRoot:  %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n) 
Requires:   perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_%(eval `%{__perl} -V:version`; echo $version))
BuildArch:  noarch

BuildRequires: perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker)
BuildRequires: perl(YAML)
# test
BuildRequires: perl(Data::Dumper)
BuildRequires: perl(Test)

%description
The main problem with Data::Dumper (one of my all-time favorite modules)
is that you have to use 'eval()' to deserialize the data you've dumped.
This is great if you can trust the data you're evaling, but horrible if
you can't. A good alternative is Storable.pm. It can safely thaw your
frozen data.  But if you want to read/edit the frozen data, you're out of
luck, because Storable uses a binary format. Even Data::Dumper's output
can be a little cumbersome for larger data objects. Enter Data::Denter. 

Data::Denter is yet another Perl data serializer/deserializer. It formats
nested data structures in an indented fashion. It is optimized for human
readability/editability, safe deserialization, and (eventually) speed.


%prep
%setup -q -n Data-Denter-%{version}

%build
%{__perl} Makefile.PL INSTALLDIRS=vendor
make %{?_smp_mflags}

%install
rm -rf %{buildroot}

make pure_install PERL_INSTALL_ROOT=%{buildroot}
find %{buildroot} -type f -name .packlist -exec rm -f {} ';'
find %{buildroot} -depth -type d -exec rmdir {} 2/dev/null ';'

%{_fixperms} %{buildroot}/*

%check
make test

%clean
rm -rf %{buildroot} 

%files
%defattr(-,root,root,-)
%doc Changes README 
%{perl_vendorlib}/*
%{_mandir}/man3/*.3*

%changelog
* Wed Mar 18 2009 Chris Weyl cw...@alumni.drew.edu 0.15-1
- update for submission

* Wed Mar 18 2009 Chris Weyl cw...@alumni.drew.edu 0.15-0
- initial RPM packaging
- generated with cpan2dist (CPANPLUS::Dist::RPM version 0.0.8)



Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-Data-Denter/F-10/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -r1.1 -r1.2
--- .cvsignore  20 Mar 2009 03:12:27 -  1.1
+++ .cvsignore  21 Mar 2009 23:19:53 -  1.2
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+Data-Denter-0.15.tar.gz


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-Data-Denter/F-10/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -r1.1 -r1.2
--- sources 20 Mar 2009 03:12:27 -  1.1
+++ sources 21 Mar 2009 23:19:53 -  1.2
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+819e5c05fb61e90f4c1311286b080405  Data-Denter-0.15.tar.gz

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