Re: why is gdm ignoring dpms

2009-03-24 Thread François Patte
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Le 22/03/2009 23:28, Tim a écrit :
> On Sun, 2009-03-22 at 15:59 +0100, François Patte wrote:
>> I have dpms enabled in xorg.conf file:
>>
>> Section "Monitor"
>> # HorizSync source: edid, VertRefresh source: edid
>> Identifier "Monitor0"
>> VendorName "LG"
>> ModelName  "LG L1920P"
>> HorizSync   30.0 - 71.0
>> VertRefresh 56.0 - 75.0
>> Option  "DPMS"
>> EndSection
>>
>> log confirm this fact (Xorg.0.log):
>>
>> (**) Option "dpms"
>> (**) NVIDIA(0): DPMS enabled
>>
>> But gdm refuses to apply this. Why.
> 
> I don't know about now, since gdm has changed so much, and become very
> broken; but I seem to recall that in the past, you could put a copy of
> your xorg.conf file into the /etc/gdm directory and gdm would use it.

I tried this and it seems to work at least one time! I will see today.

Saying this "mezzo voce", some people could break this too in next release.

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"normal" boot/shutdown in f10

2009-03-24 Thread François Patte
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Bonjour,

I am wondering how to get a non-graphical boot in fedora 10.

In the previous version (up to f9), I used to disable graphical boot in
/etc/sysconfig/init

# Turn on graphical boot
GRAPHICAL=no
#

And I could get a black screen with the status of all starting services

Now we don't have this choice:
# color => new RH6.0 bootup
# verbose => old-style bootup
# anything else => new style bootup without ANSI colors or positioning
BOOTUP=color
#BOOTUP=verbose
#

If I choose "BOOTUP=verbose" it is the very old style bootup from redhat
4 (or 5 I don't remember) where you cannot read anything.

Also, at shutdown, when GRAPHICAL was set to "no", you could see all
status of shuting down services.

Now this works randomly: sometimes you can see this, sometimes nothing
is displayed until the system stops. I the later case, for me, I have
problems to reboot with the software RAID 1 I installed on my box. I
suppose that md services do not shutdown propperly but I cannot see it.

Thanks for answering.

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Re: "normal" boot/shutdown in f10

2009-03-24 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:32:34 +0100
François Patte wrote:

> I am wondering how to get a non-graphical boot in fedora 10.

Remove "rhgb" from the appropriate line in /boot/grub/grub.conf

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Re: Anyone else think X has a performance problem ?

2009-03-24 Thread Alan Cox

> I've got boxes at home running FC6, F8, and F10. The FC6 box is an old 
> AMD Athlon 2Ghz 1.5GB memory, the F8 box is a P4 3 Ghz 2GB memory, and 
> the F10 box is an Intel Core2 2.2 Ghz 4GB memory.
> 
> For the test, I created a 1,000,000 line (80 byte lines, 80 MB) text
> file and timed "cat file" on all the boxes, with and without X. I ran 
> the test several times and reported the fastest time. I also tried 
> turning off anti-aliased text, but that was actually slower.
> 
> Bottom line, FC6 running X was 6 times faster than F8 and over 8 times
> faster than F10. I know that there have been many, many improvements in 
> Fedora over the years, but X looks like it's taking a big step backward. 
> And don't tell me the eye-candy is much better, because I don't care.

You seem to have erroneously posted a mix of numbers mixing up version,
kernel, X server and hardware. Unless you hold three of those constant to
get the variation in the fourth your data is totally meaningless - even
if there is a real slow down.

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On system-config-printer

2009-03-24 Thread Timothy Murphy
I've been following but not understanding the thread
"system-config-printer can't find my remote printer ?".

Actually I never user system-config-printer
because I came to the conclusion long ago
that it is incompatible with the web-interface to cups.

Is that no longer the case?

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Re: Anyone else think X has a performance problem ?

2009-03-24 Thread psmith

Alan Cox wrote:
I've got boxes at home running FC6, F8, and F10. The FC6 box is an old 
AMD Athlon 2Ghz 1.5GB memory, the F8 box is a P4 3 Ghz 2GB memory, and 
the F10 box is an Intel Core2 2.2 Ghz 4GB memory.


For the test, I created a 1,000,000 line (80 byte lines, 80 MB) text
file and timed "cat file" on all the boxes, with and without X. I ran 
the test several times and reported the fastest time. I also tried 
turning off anti-aliased text, but that was actually slower.


Bottom line, FC6 running X was 6 times faster than F8 and over 8 times
faster than F10. I know that there have been many, many improvements in 
Fedora over the years, but X looks like it's taking a big step backward. 
And don't tell me the eye-candy is much better, because I don't care.



You seem to have erroneously posted a mix of numbers mixing up version,
kernel, X server and hardware. Unless you hold three of those constant to
get the variation in the fourth your data is totally meaningless - even
if there is a real slow down.

  
regardless the difference between X and no X in each version/hardware is 
astounding! what are the reasons for this, your not telling me that X is 
chewing up that much cpu cycles to turn a 1minute 40sec operation into a 
4minute 53sec one?


i think this merits much further analysis!

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Re: HP Server for Fedora10

2009-03-24 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
d380g5 is a good choice, but the price is a bit higher than $1500

there are low cost memory upgrades in ebay.


2009/3/24 Sara Hugh :
> I plan to buy HP server (around $1500) for installation of Fedora10. Could
> anyone provide me some suggestion about what kind of HP server I can buy?
> Thank you very much for your help in advance.
>
> Sara
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Re: On system-config-printer

2009-03-24 Thread Tim Waugh

Timothy Murphy wrote:

I've been following but not understanding the thread
"system-config-printer can't find my remote printer ?".

Actually I never user system-config-printer
because I came to the conclusion long ago
that it is incompatible with the web-interface to cups.

Is that no longer the case?


It hasn't been the case since (and starting with) Fedora Core 6.

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Re: Speaking of finding printers...

2009-03-24 Thread Tim Waugh

Tom Horsley wrote:

Is there any way I can convince it to NOT find a printer?
Some system somewhere claims to have a shared printer on
it, but it isn't a printer I want to use or even know where
is located. I'd really like it to not be in the list of
printers, but the ever so "helpful" software insists
on finding it because it can.


There's currently no mechanism in CUPS to filter out queues you do not 
have control over, no.


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Re: Anyone else think X has a performance problem ?

2009-03-24 Thread Alan Cox
> regardless the difference between X and no X in each version/hardware is 
> astounding! what are the reasons for this, your not telling me that X is 
> chewing up that much cpu cycles to turn a 1minute 40sec operation into a 
> 4minute 53sec one?

Why do you assume this has anything to do with CPU cycles and not
graphics performance ?

> i think this merits much further analysis!

Feel free, but you need to do it in a disciplined repeatable one change
at a time fashion.

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Speaking of finding printers...

2009-03-24 Thread Tom Horsley
Is there any way I can convince it to NOT find a printer?
Some system somewhere claims to have a shared printer on
it, but it isn't a printer I want to use or even know where
is located. I'd really like it to not be in the list of
printers, but the ever so "helpful" software insists
on finding it because it can.

Is some arcane iptables rule the only way to make this
printer go away? Anyone have an iptables example to
achieve that?

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Anyone unable to run specifc applications after recent selinux-policy?

2009-03-24 Thread Mike Cloaked

I just tried to run Okular in F10 (first time since recent selinux policy
update) and nothing happens - used to work fine!

Also Crossover no longer executes programmes - 

I wonder if anyone else is seeing this change of behaviour?
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Re: Anyone else think X has a performance problem ?

2009-03-24 Thread Steven W. Orr
On Tuesday, Mar 24th 2009 at 08:14 -, quoth Alan Cox:

=>> regardless the difference between X and no X in each version/hardware is 
=>> astounding! what are the reasons for this, your not telling me that X is 
=>> chewing up that much cpu cycles to turn a 1minute 40sec operation into a 
=>> 4minute 53sec one?
=>
=>Why do you assume this has anything to do with CPU cycles and not
=>graphics performance ?
=>
=>> i think this merits much further analysis!
=>
=>Feel free, but you need to do it in a disciplined repeatable one change
=>at a time fashion.
=>
=>Alan

Performance issues are very touchy feely, and Alan is correct. One change 
at a time is the only proper way to measure any kind of performance 
metric. 

Back in an old AI class a few decades ago, Patrick Henry Winston had a 
quote in his AI book that stuck with me. 

Michaels Theorem: You can't learn anything unless you almost
  already know it.

Measure something. Change one thing, and measure again.

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Re: Anyone unable to run specifc applications after recent selinux-policy?

2009-03-24 Thread Mike Cloaked



Mike Cloaked wrote:
> 
> I just tried to run Okular in F10 (first time since recent selinux policy
> update) and nothing happens - used to work fine!
> 
> Also Crossover no longer executes programmes - 
> 
> I wonder if anyone else is seeing this change of behaviour?
> 

I now have a programme failure that seems to indicate that it is possibly
the java update that has broken something!
Anyone have any further ideas or information about breakage after the latest
updates?
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Re: Maple on Fedora - beware updates today

2009-03-24 Thread Mike Cloaked



David Liguori wrote:
> 
> 
> This has been my experience as well.  Maple and Matlab both ostensibly 
> can be installed on Linux but in practice it's difficult or impossible.  
> I tried years ago, gave up and run them both in Windows.  Open source 
> substitutes sometimes do what I need and sometimes not.  If I have time 
> I play with them.  In principle I like Linux and open source, but am by 
> no means ideological about it.
> 
> 

Beware - after today's updates including Fedora 10 Update:
java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-11.b14.fc10  it appears that Maple 12 which was
running fine in F10 for me is now broken - I am not sure if this java update
is the culprit but some other applications are also not working any more -
eg Okular

I now have some key applications no longer working  -  and not very happy!
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weather report applet dead again?

2009-03-24 Thread Steven Stern
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The weather report applet had recovered from whatever was happening
several months ago, but lately it just displays "--".  I've looked
outside and there seems to be weather today. Is anyone else getting
weather from the applet?  Is there a fix?


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Re: The system freezes when switching session

2009-03-24 Thread wwp
Hi,


On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 11:53:12 +0100 wwp  wrote:

> Hello Pedro,
> 
> 
> On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:18:42 +0100 Pedro Jose  wrote:
> 
> > Hello everbody:
> > 
> > I use Fedora 10 i386 in a Compaq Presario Notebook C735EM.
> > The system is updated, and my desktop is gnome with compiz fusion enabled.
> > The graphics card is intel.
> > The problem I have is that when I change the current user session to another
> > user, the system freezes, crashes.
> > All I can do is move the mouse. I can not close the X. I can not move to
> > terminal Cntr + Alt + F1
> > I tried to do before turning off compiz fusion, but also freezes.
> > In a virtual machine that I can not, so I guess it is problem of my laptop.
> > Can someone help me?
> 
> I had a similar hang up of the video display when switching between
> users, once. intel graphics here (GMA 4500HD) on a Dell Latitude E6500.
> Meanwhile, I disabled compiz 'cause it was freezing my display when
> putting screen to standby and other situations. I'm not sure if it was
> related anyway, I didn't try to reproduce it, neither tried to disable
> acceleration as you did.
> 
> One thing I noticed w/ the different kind of display freezes I had, is
> that the laptop was not freezed, I could login by ssh remotely and
> reboot the system.

I can confirm this was not related to compiz, as I'm nearly freezing
100% of the times I do switch between users again. Up-to-date F10,
Intel GMA 4500HD inside this Dell E6500 Latitude.


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Re: weather report applet dead again?

2009-03-24 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 08:03 -0500, Steven Stern wrote:
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> The weather report applet had recovered from whatever was happening
> several months ago, but lately it just displays "--".  I've looked
> outside and there seems to be weather today. Is anyone else getting
> weather from the applet?  Is there a fix?
> 
> 
> - --
> 
It still works in F9 if you mean the display associated with the
calendar.
> 
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Re: Speaking of finding printers...

2009-03-24 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 24 March 2009 12:10:17 Tim Waugh wrote:
> Tom Horsley wrote:
> > Is there any way I can convince it to NOT find a printer?
> > Some system somewhere claims to have a shared printer on
> > it, but it isn't a printer I want to use or even know where
> > is located. I'd really like it to not be in the list of
> > printers, but the ever so "helpful" software insists
> > on finding it because it can.
>
> There's currently no mechanism in CUPS to filter out queues you do not
> have control over, no.
>
I thought that was what 'Unpublish Printer' did, so what does that do?

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Re: Speaking of finding printers...

2009-03-24 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 08:00 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> Is there any way I can convince it to NOT find a printer?
> Some system somewhere claims to have a shared printer on
> it, but it isn't a printer I want to use or even know where
> is located. I'd really like it to not be in the list of
> printers, but the ever so "helpful" software insists
> on finding it because it can.
> 
> Is some arcane iptables rule the only way to make this
> printer go away? Anyone have an iptables example to
> achieve that?
In  /etc/cups/client.conf there is a line to set the server name.
Assuming that you are using a different server then the one serving your
unwanted printer that may take care of it. If you are using the same
server you need to find that server and convince its administrator to
alter his configuration file which is more complicated.


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Re: Speaking of finding printers...

2009-03-24 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 12:10 +, Tim Waugh wrote:
> Tom Horsley wrote:
> > Is there any way I can convince it to NOT find a printer?
> > Some system somewhere claims to have a shared printer on
> > it, but it isn't a printer I want to use or even know where
> > is located. I'd really like it to not be in the list of
> > printers, but the ever so "helpful" software insists
> > on finding it because it can.
> 
> There's currently no mechanism in CUPS to filter out queues you do not 
> have control over, no.
> 
> Tim.
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I know you are the expert but would not setting the servername in
clients.conf (assuming different servers are being used) do the trick.
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Re: weather report applet dead again?

2009-03-24 Thread Mike Cloaked



Aaron Konstam wrote:
> 
>> 
> It still works in F9 if you mean the display associated with the
> calendar.
>> 
> 
> 

Works for me fine in F10 too...
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Wine install - no menu items in "Applications" menu

2009-03-24 Thread Mike Cloaked

I just yum installed wine in F10 on a machine - in the past this gave a wine
menu item set in Gnome at the top taskbar when the "Applications" menu is
opened - is it just me or has something changed with a recent update?
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Re: Wine install - no menu items in "Applications" menu

2009-03-24 Thread Bill Crawford
On Tuesday 24 March 2009 14:21:05 Mike Cloaked wrote:
> I just yum installed wine in F10 on a machine - in the past this gave a
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Did you install all of wine? You need wine-desktop, iirc, as well as wine-core, 
and you might only see entries once you've actually installed some applications 
in the wine instance too.

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Missing Hardware After Update

2009-03-24 Thread Gene Poole
I've updated my primary system from the base Fedora 9 to the latest 
maintenance level.  This Fedora 9 is running on a custom built box with a 
AMD Phenom Quad-Core, 8 GB RAM, a HP RW CD/DVD dual layer with 
lightscribe.

After the update, I see that base device for the DVD isn't there 
(/dev/sr0)!  Does anyone have a idea how I can get it back?

TIA,
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Re: "normal" boot/shutdown in f10

2009-03-24 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 08:32 +0100, François Patte wrote:
> onjour,
> 
> I am wondering how to get a non-graphical boot in fedora 10.
> 
> In the previous version (up to f9), I used to disable graphical boot
> in
> /etc/sysconfig/init
> 
If by non graphical boot you mean you can see the result of all the
services starting up you get that by removing rhgb (and maybe quiet)
from the boot lines in grub.conf.
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Re: Speaking of finding printers...

2009-03-24 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Tuesday 24 March 2009 12:10:17 Tim Waugh wrote:
>> There's currently no mechanism in CUPS to filter out queues you do not
>> have control over, no.
>>
> I thought that was what 'Unpublish Printer' did, so what does that do?
> 
It stops your CUPS server from advertising that the printer is
available to other machines. It does not help in the case of another
machine offering to share a printer, and you do not want it to show
on your machine.

Now, if you don't want CUPS to show printers connected to other
machines, there is a checkbox on the administration page, "Show
printers shared by other systems", that controls displaying printers
shared by other systems. I wounder if you could uncheck that, and
then manually add any network printers you want to use?

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Re: weather report applet dead again?

2009-03-24 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Steven Stern wrote:
> The weather report applet had recovered from whatever was happening
> several months ago, but lately it just displays "--".  I've looked
> outside and there seems to be weather today. Is anyone else getting
> weather from the applet?  Is there a fix?
> 
> 
Try configuring it again. If I remember correctly, one of the
updates wiped out the config on my system.

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Re: Speaking of finding printers...

2009-03-24 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 14:13 +, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Tuesday 24 March 2009 12:10:17 Tim Waugh wrote:
> > Tom Horsley wrote:
> > > Is there any way I can convince it to NOT find a printer?
> > > Some system somewhere claims to have a shared printer on
> > > it, but it isn't a printer I want to use or even know where
> > > is located. I'd really like it to not be in the list of
> > > printers, but the ever so "helpful" software insists
> > > on finding it because it can.
> >
> > There's currently no mechanism in CUPS to filter out queues you do
> not
> > have control over, no.
> >
> I thought that was what 'Unpublish Printer' did, so what does that do?
> 
> Anne
I am waiting fro Tim's response but I am sure that what he said is not
true if you have the cooperation of the manager of the system with the
printer. I have four computers in my house (5 really but one is not
involved) . One is a print server and one has a local printer. This
second machine can print and see its local printer as well as the
printers from the print server. The other machines can not see the local
printer on that machine.

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Re: Anyone unable to run specifc applications after recent selinux-policy?

2009-03-24 Thread Daniel J Walsh

On 03/24/2009 08:40 AM, Mike Cloaked wrote:



Mike Cloaked wrote:

I just tried to run Okular in F10 (first time since recent selinux policy
update) and nothing happens - used to work fine!

Also Crossover no longer executes programmes -

I wonder if anyone else is seeing this change of behaviour?



I now have a programme failure that seems to indicate that it is possibly
the java update that has broken something!
Anyone have any further ideas or information about breakage after the latest
updates?

What avc messages are you seeing?


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Re: Speaking of finding printers...

2009-03-24 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:28:27 -0500
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:

> Now, if you don't want CUPS to show printers connected to other
> machines, there is a checkbox on the administration page, "Show
> printers shared by other systems", that controls displaying printers
> shared by other systems. I wounder if you could uncheck that, and
> then manually add any network printers you want to use?

Hey! That worked. None of the printers I want to use are on the
same subnet anyway, and by unchecking that box in the web interface,
the printer I didn't want did indeed disappear. Thanks!

(Perhaps what that checkbox really does is turn off the CUPS
broadcast request for other printers?).

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Re: Anyone unable to run specifc applications after recent selinux-policy?

2009-03-24 Thread Mike Cloaked



Daniel J Walsh wrote:
> 
> 
> What avc messages are you seeing?
> 
> 

That is the problem - I am not seeing avc's, or log messages or anything -
the programs just won't run! The gnome desktop seems normal other than that
these few programs won't work. I am totally puzzled - I have changed the
monitor from an analogue one to a DVI connected one as well as having yum
updated, but that presumably is not relevant? I am wandering in the dark
about this - not sure how to diagnose?


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Re: Wine install - no menu items in "Applications" menu

2009-03-24 Thread Mike Cloaked



Bill Crawford wrote:
> 
> 
> Did you install all of wine? You need wine-desktop, iirc, as well as
> wine-core, 
> and you might only see entries once you've actually installed some
> applications 
> in the wine instance too.
> 
> 

Thanks Bill - that as indeed the problem - yum install wine-desktop gave me
the wine menu...

Thanks again.
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Re: Anyone unable to run specifc applications after recent selinux-policy?

2009-03-24 Thread Daniel J Walsh

On 03/24/2009 10:53 AM, Mike Cloaked wrote:



Daniel J Walsh wrote:


What avc messages are you seeing?




That is the problem - I am not seeing avc's, or log messages or anything -
the programs just won't run! The gnome desktop seems normal other than that
these few programs won't work. I am totally puzzled - I have changed the
monitor from an analogue one to a DVI connected one as well as having yum
updated, but that presumably is not relevant? I am wandering in the dark
about this - not sure how to diagnose?



setenforce 0

and see if they run.


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Re: Missing Hardware After Update

2009-03-24 Thread Alan Cox
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:39:20 -0400
Gene Poole  wrote:

> I've updated my primary system from the base Fedora 9 to the latest 
> maintenance level.  This Fedora 9 is running on a custom built box with a 
> AMD Phenom Quad-Core, 8 GB RAM, a HP RW CD/DVD dual layer with 
> lightscribe.
> 
> After the update, I see that base device for the DVD isn't there 
> (/dev/sr0)!  Does anyone have a idea how I can get it back?

First thing - boot the old kernel (hit a key during grub and select the
old one it kept) and make sure it still appears there, then boot the new
kernel again so you are sure it is reproducible and depends on the kernel
which I suspect will be the case.

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Re: weather report applet dead again?

2009-03-24 Thread Robert Nichols

Mike Cloaked wrote:



Aaron Konstam wrote:

It still works in F9 if you mean the display associated with the
calendar.



Works for me fine in F10 too...


For me, it sits in the "Updating..." state, displaying "--", every
time I login on my F10 laptop.  The only way to get it to work is
to remove the applet from the panel, re-add it, and set all the
preferences.  I suspect that what is happening is that it tries to
to connect before Network Manager has established my wireless
connection and locks up because of some bug in handling the error.
I can see that it works just fine if I have my wired ethernet
connection plugged in, which connects before I log in.

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Re: Anyone unable to run specifc applications after recent selinux-policy?

2009-03-24 Thread Mike Cloaked



Daniel J Walsh wrote:
> 
> 
> setenforce 0
> 
> and see if they run.
> 
> 

I tried 
setenforce 0
(as root)
then as user
winecfg

it just hangs  -  nothing executes nothing happens - I have not come across
this before!
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Re: Anyone unable to run specifc applications after recent selinux-policy?

2009-03-24 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)
Daniel J Walsh wrote:

>>
>> That is the problem - I am not seeing avc's, or log messages or
>> anything -
>> the programs just won't run! The gnome desktop seems normal other than
>> that

aMSN not working here.

> setenforce 0
> 
> and see if they run.

No difference, no errors of any descrition, even from cli

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Re: Wine install - no menu items in "Applications" menu

2009-03-24 Thread Mike Cloaked



Mike Cloaked wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks Bill - that as indeed the problem - yum install wine-desktop gave
> me the wine menu...
> 
> Thanks again.
> 

But that is not the end of the problem - now running winecfg just hangs - no
messages, no avc, nothing - just hangs. I think an update has broken
something but I have no idea which update or what is broken. I have posted
elsewhere that Okular no longer runs either.
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Re: Anyone else think X has a performance problem ?

2009-03-24 Thread john wendel

Alan Cox wrote:
regardless the difference between X and no X in each version/hardware is 
astounding! what are the reasons for this, your not telling me that X is 
chewing up that much cpu cycles to turn a 1minute 40sec operation into a 
4minute 53sec one?


Why do you assume this has anything to do with CPU cycles and not
graphics performance ?


i think this merits much further analysis!


Feel free, but you need to do it in a disciplined repeatable one change
at a time fashion.

Alan



You're correct of course. I posted some observations and I have 
hypothesized that I am seeing an X performance regression.  I was hoping 
that someone would have already done the hard work and would have an 
explanation for what I'm seeing.


The next step  is to measure the performance of different versions of X 
on an otherwise stable platform. That's what I'll be doing this weekend. 
Now I just need to figure out how to get "old" X running on F10.


Regards,

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Re: Wine install - no menu items in "Applications" menu

2009-03-24 Thread Bill Crawford
On Tuesday 24 March 2009 15:14:27 Mike Cloaked wrote:

> But that is not the end of the problem - now running winecfg just hangs -
> no messages, no avc, nothing - just hangs. I think an update has broken
> something but I have no idea which update or what is broken. I have posted
> elsewhere that Okular no longer runs either.

You should be able to work out what's been updated most recently by looking at 
the output of "rpm -qa --last" which shows (most recent first) installation 
order of all the packages in its database.

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Re: Anyone unable to run specifc applications after recent selinux-policy?

2009-03-24 Thread Mike Cloaked



Frank Murphy-4 wrote:
> 
> Daniel J Walsh wrote:
> 
>>>
>>> That is the problem - I am not seeing avc's, or log messages or
>>> anything -
>>> the programs just won't run! The gnome desktop seems normal other than
>>> that
> 
> aMSN not working here.
> 
>> setenforce 0
>> 
>> and see if they run.
> 
> No difference, no errors of any descrition, even from cli
> 
> 

I have found the problem and it was nothing to do with selinux policy!
I had changed my graphics card and monitor and this seems to have messed up
.gconf and/or .gconfd - I mv'ed these two directories aside and restarted
gnome - the problematic applications now all work fine again.

Sorry for the noise - I had no idea that gnome could get so messed up and
then not give any useful messages to say what was going on!

My apologies for wasting time
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Re: Wine install - no menu items in "Applications" menu

2009-03-24 Thread Mike Cloaked



Bill Crawford wrote:
> 
> 
> You should be able to work out what's been updated most recently by
> looking at 
> the output of "rpm -qa --last" which shows (most recent first)
> installation 
> order of all the packages in its database.
> 
> 

I found what the problem was - I had changed my graphics card and monitor -
and this seems to have messed up .gconf and/or .gconfd - I mv'ed them to a
.prev name and restarted gnome - and all is now well.  

I had no idea that changing the graphics card could cause a gnome mess up
and then have no error messages to indicate that this might be the problem!

Sorry for the noise.
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URL error message in Thunderbird -

2009-03-24 Thread Bob Goodwin
This is an F-10 updated computer and I am getting an error when I click 
on a URL in a Thunderbird email:


   Error showing url: Failed to execute child process
   "/usr/lib/firefox-3.0.6/firefox" (No such file or directory)

Is this a recognized problem or am I unique? 


Bob

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Re: Maple on Fedora - beware updates today - I was wrong - it is fine!

2009-03-24 Thread Mike Cloaked



Mike Cloaked wrote:
> 
> 
> Beware - after today's updates including Fedora 10 Update:
> java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-11.b14.fc10  it appears that Maple 12 which was
> running fine in F10 for me is now broken - I am not sure if this java
> update is the culprit but some other applications are also not working any
> more - eg Okular
> 
> I now have some key applications no longer working  -  and not very happy!
> 

It turned out that this failure was nothing to do with any updated packages
today - but was due to changing the graphics card and monitor - which in
turn caused .gconf and/or .gconfd to get messed up.  Moving these two
directories to new names and restarting gnome gave a fully working
application again.

Apologies for the report - and hope it did not cause any excessive worries.
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Re: weather report applet dead again?

2009-03-24 Thread Todd Denniston

Robert Nichols wrote, On 03/24/2009 11:00 AM:

Mike Cloaked wrote:



Aaron Konstam wrote:

It still works in F9 if you mean the display associated with the
calendar.



Works for me fine in F10 too...


For me, it sits in the "Updating..." state, displaying "--", every
time I login on my F10 laptop.  The only way to get it to work is
to remove the applet from the panel, re-add it, and set all the
preferences.  I suspect that what is happening is that it tries to
to connect before Network Manager has established my wireless
connection and locks up because of some bug in handling the error.
I can see that it works just fine if I have my wired ethernet
connection plugged in, which connects before I log in.



Have you considered filing a bug about that?


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Perl on FC 10

2009-03-24 Thread (David) Ming Xia
Hi, everyone.
 
  I got a problem with Perl when I was trying to install Yahoo Zimbra.  The 
errror message is:  '/usr/bin/perl: symbol lookup error: 
/opt/zimbra/zimbramon/lib/i586-linux-thread-multi/auto/IO/IO.so: undefined 
symbol: Perl_Tstack_sp_ptr'.
 
 I am using FC 10.  I checked perl verion and found it is of 5.10.0.  I 
searched the web and found other people got similar problems.  I tried to down 
grade perl to 5.8.
 
  Anyone know how to fix this problem, or how to downgrade perl to 5.8?
 
 
Thank you very much.
 
 
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Re: Maple on Fedora - beware updates today - I was wrong - it is fine!

2009-03-24 Thread Dave Feustel
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 08:58:09AM -0700, Mike Cloaked wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Mike Cloaked wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Beware - after today's updates including Fedora 10 Update:
> > java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-11.b14.fc10  it appears that Maple 12 which was
> > running fine in F10 for me is now broken - I am not sure if this java
> > update is the culprit but some other applications are also not working any
> > more - eg Okular
> > 
> > I now have some key applications no longer working  -  and not very happy!
> > 
> 
> It turned out that this failure was nothing to do with any updated packages
> today - but was due to changing the graphics card and monitor - which in
> turn caused .gconf and/or .gconfd to get messed up.  Moving these two
> directories to new names and restarting gnome gave a fully working
> application again.
> 
> Apologies for the report - and hope it did not cause any excessive worries.

It worried me, but I went ahead and ordered Maple 12 anyway.

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Re: On system-config-printer

2009-03-24 Thread g
Tim Waugh wrote:
> Timothy Murphy wrote:

>> Actually I never user system-config-printer
>> because I came to the conclusion long ago
>> that it is incompatible with the web-interface to cups.
>>
>> Is that no longer the case?
> 
> It hasn't been the case since (and starting with) Fedora Core 6.

run 'system-config-printer --help' to see what you get.

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What is -lgthread-2.0

2009-03-24 Thread Seann Clark
What is -lgthread-2.0 used for in compliation and what does it belong 
to? I have multiple items failing on this, one being mythTV from source 
(because mythtv doesn't exist in ppc64 bit RPM form from what I have 
found so far) If anyone out there knows, it would help me a lot. I find 
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Re: Missing Hardware After Update

2009-03-24 Thread Gene Poole
Let me be more exact...

I'm running Fedora 9 on a custom AMD Phenom Quad-Core with 8GB RAM 
installed, 2-SATA hard drives (Seagate 500GB and Seagate 1TB); 
HP DVD/CD RW Dual Layer with Lightscribe.

Lo and behold, I've updated my running (this machine) from kernel 
2.6.25-14 to kernel 2.6.27.19-78.2.30 (?) and have experienced 
the following:

1. My dual-layer DVD/RW and CD/RW drive has disappeared (it was /dev/sr0)
The only messages I see that appear to be of concern are:

[r...@jpdsys3 log]# cat messages | grep -i reset | more
Mar 22 14:46:30 jpdsys3 kernel: ata1: softreset failed (device not ready)
Mar 22 14:46:30 jpdsys3 kernel: ata2: softreset failed (device not ready)
Mar 22 14:53:55 jpdsys3 kernel: ata1: softreset failed (device not ready)
Mar 22 14:53:55 jpdsys3 kernel: ata2: softreset failed (device not ready)

All of the devices are SATA except the DVD drive. The DVD drive is on the 
single IDE connection and it is set to be the slave (factory default?)

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Re: What is -lgthread-2.0

2009-03-24 Thread Sharpe, Sam J
2009/3/24 Seann Clark :
> What is -lgthread-2.0 used for in compliation and what does it belong to? I
> have multiple items failing on this, one being mythTV from source (because
> mythtv doesn't exist in ppc64 bit RPM form from what I have found so far) If
> anyone out there knows, it would help me a lot. I find no real information
> on google that matches what the heck this belongs to.

[...@machine ~]$ locate gthread-2.0
/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0
/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0.1800.4
/lib64/libgthread-2.0.so.0
/lib64/libgthread-2.0.so.0.1800.4
/usr/lib64/libgthread-2.0.so
/usr/lib64/pkgconfig/gthread-2.0.pc


[...@machine ~]$ sudo yum provides /usr/lib64/libgthread-2.0.so
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Importing additional filelist information
glib2-devel-2.18.2-3.fc10.x86_64 : A library of handy utility functions
Repo: fedora
Matched from:
Filename: /usr/lib64/libgthread-2.0.so

So my question would be... "do you have glib2-devel" installed?

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Re: Perl on FC 10

2009-03-24 Thread Garry Williams
2009/3/24 (David) Ming Xia :
> Hi, everyone.
>
>   I got a problem with Perl when I was trying to install Yahoo Zimbra.  The
> errror message is:  '/usr/bin/perl: symbol lookup error:
> /opt/zimbra/zimbramon/lib/i586-linux-thread-multi/auto/IO/IO.so: undefined
> symbol: Perl_Tstack_sp_ptr'.
>
>  I am using FC 10.

I am guessing, but it looks like your Yahoo Zimbra came with its own
Perl interpreter.  It's probably installed in /opt/zimbra/bin/perl[*],
again guessing from the error message you quote.

The message is coming from the Perl interpreter installed in
/usr/bin/perl (Fedora's Perl), but it references a core Perl module
(IO.pm) that is installed in the /opt/zimbra hierarchy.  I'm not sure
how that is happening, but it could be use statements in the executed
script or PERL5LIB environment variable, or ...

I guess the fix is to execute the Perl interpreter shipped with Yahoo
Zimbra instead of the Fedora Perl interpreter.

Try typing the command

/opt/zimbra/bin/perl name-of-script-causing-error

If Yahoo Zimbra does not ship its own Perl, then you will have to
build it yourself from source.  Check CPAN or http://www.perl.org/ to
get the source.

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konsole trouble

2009-03-24 Thread Robert Singleton
I'm running Fedora 10 under the Gnome desktop on a Toshiba laptop. Last 
night I seem to have messed up the konsole application (not sure how, 
but I think it turned dark, wouldn't respond, so I killed the app), and 
now it will not launch (although Terminal will launch, but I don't 
really like Terminal). The problem is also present with other user 
accounts, so it doesn't seem like it's a local profile setting. The 
Microsoft fix of rebooting does not solve the problem either. Any 
suggestions? Thanks very much in advance if you can help me.


Robert Singleton



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Re: Maple on Fedora - beware updates today - I was wrong - it is fine!

2009-03-24 Thread Mike Cloaked



dfeustel wrote:
> 
> 
>> Apologies for the report - and hope it did not cause any excessive
>> worries.
> 
> It worried me, but I went ahead and ordered Maple 12 anyway.
> 
> "Damn the torpedoes! Full Speed Ahead!"
> 
> 

There are always defensive options available!
I run Maple 12 32bit and no Compiz and no desktop effects  and I run
this on several machines with no problems. Good luck.
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Re: Missing Hardware After Update

2009-03-24 Thread g
Gene Poole wrote:

> All of the devices are SATA except the DVD drive. The DVD drive is on the 
> single IDE connection and it is set to be the slave (factory default?)

change to master.

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Re: Missing Hardware After Update

2009-03-24 Thread g
Gene Poole wrote:

> All of the devices are SATA except the DVD drive. The DVD drive is on the 
> single IDE connection and it is set to be the slave (factory default?)

change to master.

how is dvd drive listed in fstab?

also, please reply 'plain text'.

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Re: Missing Hardware After Update

2009-03-24 Thread Aldo Foot
2009/3/24 Gene Poole :
>
> All of the devices are SATA except the DVD drive. The DVD drive is on the
> single IDE connection and it is set to be the slave (factory default?)
>
> TIA,
> Gene

Are you using an ASUS motherboard?

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How do I add ntp servers??

2009-03-24 Thread Beartooth

I'd've sworn I'd posted this yesterday, but I don't see it; my 
apologies if it's a re-run.

The ntpserver I used to use, ntp.vt.edu, is gone; it has been 
replaced by ntp-x.vt.edu, for x = 1 - 4.

Afaict, F10 uses Redhat's servers and only Redhat's ntpservers; 
and the comment at the head of /etc/ntp/ntpservers says :

> #This file contains a list of ntp servers to show in the system-config-
> date user interface.
> #It is not recommended that you modify this file by hand.

I *think* that just means that the proper way to modify it is to 
run system-config-date as root, and make the changes that way. I did; but 
I see no change in /etc/ntp/ntpservers. Do I have to log out and back in, 
or what? 

Or is there some reason those of us with closer ntpservers should 
nevertheless use Redhat and Redhat only??

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Re: How do I add ntp servers??

2009-03-24 Thread Rick Stevens

Beartooth wrote:
	I'd've sworn I'd posted this yesterday, but I don't see it; my 
apologies if it's a re-run.


	The ntpserver I used to use, ntp.vt.edu, is gone; it has been 
replaced by ntp-x.vt.edu, for x = 1 - 4.


	Afaict, F10 uses Redhat's servers and only Redhat's ntpservers; 
and the comment at the head of /etc/ntp/ntpservers says :



#This file contains a list of ntp servers to show in the system-config-
date user interface.
#It is not recommended that you modify this file by hand.


	I *think* that just means that the proper way to modify it is to 
run system-config-date as root, and make the changes that way. I did; but 
I see no change in /etc/ntp/ntpservers. Do I have to log out and back in, 
or what? 


It's confusing, but the ntpd used in F10 doesn't use those files any
more.  Have a look in /etc/ntp.conf.

	Or is there some reason those of us with closer ntpservers should 
nevertheless use Redhat and Redhat only??


I wish they'd make up their minds as to which set of files they're going
to use, although this may be an ntpd version thing.  First it was
/etc/ntp.conf, then it was /etc/ntp/ntpservers and step-tickers, now
it's back to /etc/ntp.conf.  I get confused.
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Re: How do I add ntp servers??

2009-03-24 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:04:28 -0700
Rick Stevens wrote:

> I wish they'd make up their minds as to which set of files they're going
> to use, although this may be an ntpd version thing.  First it was
> /etc/ntp.conf, then it was /etc/ntp/ntpservers and step-tickers, now
> it's back to /etc/ntp.conf.  I get confused.

Actually step-tickers is still used if you check the "set time at boot"
box.

Generally speaking, the best way to get NTP servers these days is to
use the "pool" servers (unless you have a closer local one such
as one run by your ISP or corporation). See http://www.pool.ntp.org/en/use.html

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Re: How do I add ntp servers??

2009-03-24 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 14:10 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:04:28 -0700
> Rick Stevens wrote:
> 
> > I wish they'd make up their minds as to which set of files they're going
> > to use, although this may be an ntpd version thing.  First it was
> > /etc/ntp.conf, then it was /etc/ntp/ntpservers and step-tickers, now
> > it's back to /etc/ntp.conf.  I get confused.
> 
> Actually step-tickers is still used if you check the "set time at boot"
> box.
> 
> Generally speaking, the best way to get NTP servers these days is to
> use the "pool" servers (unless you have a closer local one such
> as one run by your ISP or corporation). See 
> http://www.pool.ntp.org/en/use.html

I catch your drift...

sorry, couldn't resist

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Re: How do I add ntp servers??

2009-03-24 Thread Beartooth
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:10:30 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
[]
> Generally speaking, the best way to get NTP servers these days is to use
> the "pool" servers (unless you have a closer local one such as one run
> by your ISP or corporation). See http://www.pool.ntp.org/en/use.html

That says, inter alia : 

If your Internet provider has a timeserver, or if you know of a 
good timeserver near you, you should use that and not this list - you'll 
probably get better time and you'll use fewer network resources

-- which is exactly what I'm trying to do.

Btw, ntpq -pn does have an asterisk; and whois resolves that IP 
and three more as belonging to Virginia Tech, which is two or three miles 
away.

My thanks for both replies!

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Re: URL error message in Thunderbird -

2009-03-24 Thread Kevin J. Cummings

Bob Goodwin wrote:
This is an F-10 updated computer and I am getting an error when I click 
on a URL in a Thunderbird email:


   Error showing url: Failed to execute child process
   "/usr/lib/firefox-3.0.6/firefox" (No such file or directory)

Is this a recognized problem or am I unique?
Bob



Given that the current firefox is version 3.0.7, I have to ask.  Are you 
running the current firefox?  If so, something screwed up in your 
update.  If not, then have you ever modified Thunderbird's about:config 
to point to a specific firefox?  Clearly the preferred application 
pointer is not right, the only question is "why is it not right".


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Re: URL error message in Thunderbird -

2009-03-24 Thread Remi Collet
Le 24/03/2009 20:00, Kevin J. Cummings a écrit :
> Bob Goodwin wrote:
>> This is an F-10 updated computer and I am getting an error when I
>> click on a URL in a Thunderbird email:
>>
>>Error showing url: Failed to execute child process
>>"/usr/lib/firefox-3.0.6/firefox" (No such file or directory)
>>
>> Is this a recognized problem or am I unique?
>> Bob
>>
> 
> Given that the current firefox is version 3.0.7, I have to ask.  Are you
> running the current firefox?  If so, something screwed up in your
> update.  If not, then have you ever modified Thunderbird's about:config
> to point to a specific firefox?  Clearly the preferred application
> pointer is not right, the only question is "why is it not right".
> 

If, at first FF 3.0.6 launch, when it ask about default browser you answer

- yes : become my default browser
(it save /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.6/firefox in gnome config)
- no : don't check this again
(it will not check and save new path in gnome config)

So : you shouldn't anwser Yes to the first question

Fix : System / Pref. / Personal / Pref app => Firefox
(will save firefox (without path) in the gnome pref)

Improvment : defaulf firefox config should be set to not test default
browser on Launch:  browser.shell.checkDefaultBrowser = false

Hope that helps
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Re: weather report applet dead again?

2009-03-24 Thread Robert Nichols

Todd Denniston wrote:

Robert Nichols wrote, On 03/24/2009 11:00 AM:


For me, it sits in the "Updating..." state, displaying "--", every
time I login on my F10 laptop.  The only way to get it to work is
to remove the applet from the panel, re-add it, and set all the
preferences.  I suspect that what is happening is that it tries to
to connect before Network Manager has established my wireless
connection and locks up because of some bug in handling the error.
I can see that it works just fine if I have my wired ethernet
connection plugged in, which connects before I log in.



Have you considered filing a bug about that?




In truth, I had forgotten about it until I saw this thread and confirmed
correct operation if a network connection was set up prior to login.

   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=491955

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Re: weather report applet dead again?

2009-03-24 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 24 March 2009 15:00:46 Robert Nichols wrote:
> Mike Cloaked wrote:
> > Aaron Konstam wrote:
> >> It still works in F9 if you mean the display associated with the
> >> calendar.
> >
> > Works for me fine in F10 too...
>
> For me, it sits in the "Updating..." state, displaying "--", every
> time I login on my F10 laptop.  The only way to get it to work is
> to remove the applet from the panel, re-add it, and set all the
> preferences.  I suspect that what is happening is that it tries to
> to connect before Network Manager has established my wireless
> connection and locks up because of some bug in handling the error.
> I can see that it works just fine if I have my wired ethernet
> connection plugged in, which connects before I log in.
>
My F10 netbook is using a wireless connection, so I too find that it displays 
'Loading...', but after 30 minutes, at the refresh time, it does indeed 
refresh.  Maybe a bug report should suggest that it tries, say, 5 minutes 
after a failure?  But then, if it fails again, would it go on trying for ever, 
every 5 minutes?

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while updating selinux-policy-targeted...

2009-03-24 Thread Andras Simon
I see this

  Updating   : selinux-policy-targeted  4/8
libsepol.policydb_write: Warning! Policy version 22 cannot support
permissive types, but some were defined

This is on F9. Something to be worried about?

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Re: while updating selinux-policy-targeted...

2009-03-24 Thread Daniel J Walsh

On 03/24/2009 04:14 PM, Andras Simon wrote:

I see this

   Updating   : selinux-policy-targeted  4/8
libsepol.policydb_write: Warning! Policy version 22 cannot support
permissive types, but some were defined

This is on F9. Something to be worried about?

Andras


I don't  think so, but they should be removed from F9 policy.

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Re: HP Server for Fedora10

2009-03-24 Thread Michael Cronenworth

 Original Message 
Subject: HP Server for Fedora10
From: Sara Hugh 
To: fedora-list@redhat.com
Date: 03/23/2009 10:56 PM

I plan to buy HP server (around $1500) for installation of Fedora10. 
Could anyone provide me some suggestion about what kind of HP server I 
can buy?

Thank you very much for your help in advance.



Why HP? For $1500 you can have a server with more power, more RAM, and 
more disk space if you buy parts directly. You can even use 
pre-assembled cases from ASUS or other makers cheaper than HP.


Any HP server will worth though. They all use standard chipsets and 
parts that Linux supports. HP does a lot of Linux server business.


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Re: while updating selinux-policy-targeted...

2009-03-24 Thread Andras Simon
On 3/24/09, Daniel J Walsh  wrote:
> On 03/24/2009 04:14 PM, Andras Simon wrote:
>> I see this
>>
>>Updating   : selinux-policy-targeted
>>   4/8
>> libsepol.policydb_write: Warning! Policy version 22 cannot support
>> permissive types, but some were defined
>>
>> This is on F9. Something to be worried about?
>>
>> Andras
>>
> I don't  think so, but they should be removed from F9 policy.

Then I'll find something else to worry about :-) Thanks!

Andras

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Re: HP Server for Fedora10

2009-03-24 Thread Sara Hugh
Thank you a lot for the suggestions!!!

Sara



From: Michael Cronenworth 
To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." 

Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 1:23:13 PM
Subject: Re: HP Server for Fedora10

 Original Message 
Subject: HP Server for Fedora10
From: Sara Hugh 
To: fedora-list@redhat.com
Date: 03/23/2009 10:56 PM

> I plan to buy HP server (around $1500) for installation of Fedora10. Could 
> anyone provide me some suggestion about what kind of HP server I can buy?
> Thank you very much for your help in advance.
> 

Why HP? For $1500 you can have a server with more power, more RAM, and more 
disk space if you buy parts directly. You can even use pre-assembled cases from 
ASUS or other makers cheaper than HP.

Any HP server will worth though. They all use standard chipsets and parts that 
Linux supports. HP does a lot of Linux server business.

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xen in fedora now

2009-03-24 Thread chloe K
Hi all
   
  What is xen kernel in fedora now?
   
  Can I use it as virtual private server?
   
  or I have to download xen kernel to recompile to support xen
   
  Thank you 

   
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Re: weather report applet dead again?

2009-03-24 Thread Robert Nichols

Anne Wilson wrote:

On Tuesday 24 March 2009 15:00:46 Robert Nichols wrote:

Mike Cloaked wrote:

Aaron Konstam wrote:

It still works in F9 if you mean the display associated with the
calendar.

Works for me fine in F10 too...

For me, it sits in the "Updating..." state, displaying "--", every
time I login on my F10 laptop.  The only way to get it to work is
to remove the applet from the panel, re-add it, and set all the
preferences.  I suspect that what is happening is that it tries to
to connect before Network Manager has established my wireless
connection and locks up because of some bug in handling the error.
I can see that it works just fine if I have my wired ethernet
connection plugged in, which connects before I log in.

My F10 netbook is using a wireless connection, so I too find that it displays 
'Loading...', but after 30 minutes, at the refresh time, it does indeed 
refresh.  Maybe a bug report should suggest that it tries, say, 5 minutes 
after a failure?  But then, if it fails again, would it go on trying for ever, 
every 5 minutes?


On my laptop it displays "Updating...", not "Loading...", and _never_
recovers.  I tried changing the update interval to 1 minute, log out,
log back in, ... no change, never recovers, forever "Updating...".

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Re: weather report applet dead again?

2009-03-24 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:45:12 -0500
Robert Nichols wrote:

> On my laptop it displays "Updating...", not "Loading...", and _never_
> recovers.  I tried changing the update interval to 1 minute, log out,
> log back in, ... no change, never recovers, forever "Updating...".

Are you using the gweather applet, or the clock applet for your weather?  (The
clock applet now includes weather.)

I use the clock applet on my laptops and see exactly the same behaviour that
Anne described --   after some period of time the weather shows up.  Prior to
that time, it doesn't show anything at all in the space beside the time.

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Re: weather report applet dead again?

2009-03-24 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 24 March 2009 20:51:33 Frank Cox wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:45:12 -0500
>
> Robert Nichols wrote:
> > On my laptop it displays "Updating...", not "Loading...", and _never_
> > recovers.  I tried changing the update interval to 1 minute, log out,
> > log back in, ... no change, never recovers, forever "Updating...".
>
> Are you using the gweather applet, or the clock applet for your weather? 
> (The clock applet now includes weather.)
>
> I use the clock applet on my laptops and see exactly the same behaviour
> that Anne described --   after some period of time the weather shows up. 
> Prior to that time, it doesn't show anything at all in the space beside the
> time.
>
Hmm - maybe we're not talking about the same thing at all.  The only weather 
applet I have is the LCD weather plasma widget.  30 minutes is the minimum 
time I can set the update.

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Re: weather report applet dead again?

2009-03-24 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:00:27 +
Anne Wilson wrote:

> Hmm - maybe we're not talking about the same thing at all. 

Correct.  We're not.  There appear to be at least three "weather" doodads in
common use. gweather and the Gnome clock applet are the ones that I see/use.
That's two.

> The only weather 
> applet I have is the LCD weather plasma widget.  30 minutes is the minimum 
> time I can set the update.

Since you say "plasma" I assume you mean that's a kde thing.  That's three.

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Re: weather report applet dead again?

2009-03-24 Thread Robert Nichols

Frank Cox wrote:

On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:00:27 +
Anne Wilson wrote:

Hmm - maybe we're not talking about the same thing at all. 


Correct.  We're not.  There appear to be at least three "weather" doodads in
common use. gweather and the Gnome clock applet are the ones that I see/use.
That's two.

The only weather 
applet I have is the LCD weather plasma widget.  30 minutes is the minimum 
time I can set the update.


Since you say "plasma" I assume you mean that's a kde thing.  That's three.


Looks like 3 applets all with variants of the same problem.  I filed the
bugzilla against the gweather-applet part of the gnome-applets package.
That's what I'm using, and it seems to be the only one that matches the
"--" display reported at the start of this thread.

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Re: weather report applet dead again?

2009-03-24 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:25:34 -0500
Robert Nichols wrote:

> Looks like 3 applets all with variants of the same problem.

More like 3 applets, only one of which apparently has a problem.  The other two
update themselves after a period of time.

> I filed the
> bugzilla against the gweather-applet part of the gnome-applets package.
> That's what I'm using, and it seems to be the only one that matches the
> "--" display reported at the start of this thread.

Try the gnome clock applet instead.  It incorporates the same functionality as
gweather, and it's one less applet to run.

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Re: weather report applet dead again?

2009-03-24 Thread Steven Stern
Robert Nichols wrote:
> Frank Cox wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:00:27 +
>> Anne Wilson wrote:
>>
>>> Hmm - maybe we're not talking about the same thing at all. 
>>
>> Correct.  We're not.  There appear to be at least three "weather"
>> doodads in
>> common use. gweather and the Gnome clock applet are the ones that I
>> see/use.
>> That's two.
>>
>>> The only weather applet I have is the LCD weather plasma widget.  30
>>> minutes is the minimum time I can set the update.
>>
>> Since you say "plasma" I assume you mean that's a kde thing.  That's
>> three.
> 
> Looks like 3 applets all with variants of the same problem.  I filed the
> bugzilla against the gweather-applet part of the gnome-applets package.
> That's what I'm using, and it seems to be the only one that matches the
> "--" display reported at the start of this thread.
> 

That's the one I made the original post about.  My PC connects via
wireless, but I use network and not NetworkManager, so the network is
loaded and working before I login at the GUI.

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Re: URL error message in Thunderbird -

2009-03-24 Thread Bob Goodwin

Remi Collet wrote:

Le 24/03/2009 20:00, Kevin J. Cummings a écrit :
  

Bob Goodwin wrote:


This is an F-10 updated computer and I am getting an error when I
click on a URL in a Thunderbird email:

   Error showing url: Failed to execute child process
   "/usr/lib/firefox-3.0.6/firefox" (No such file or directory)

Is this a recognized problem or am I unique?
Bob

  

Given that the current firefox is version 3.0.7, I have to ask.  Are you
running the current firefox?  If so, something screwed up in your
update.  If not, then have you ever modified Thunderbird's about:config
to point to a specific firefox?  Clearly the preferred application
pointer is not right, the only question is "why is it not right".




If, at first FF 3.0.6 launch, when it ask about default browser you answer

- yes : become my default browser
(it save /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.6/firefox in gnome config)
- no : don't check this again
(it will not check and save new path in gnome config)

So : you shouldn't anwser Yes to the first question

Fix : System / Pref. / Personal / Pref app => Firefox
(will save firefox (without path) in the gnome pref)

Improvment : defaulf firefox config should be set to not test default
browser on Launch:  browser.shell.checkDefaultBrowser = false

Hope that helps
Remi.

  


I copied .thunderbird, or at least parts of it, from F-9 to this F-10 
computer to transfer the mail.  That's probably where the request for a 
firefox 3.0.6 file came from!  I don't know where that reference to 
3.0.7 is made.  I can remove and reinstall thunderbird but I will loose 
mail and the mail filters.


I think I'll put that on my list of things to deal with later.

This shift to F-10  has been a disaster for me.  Preupgrade has failed 
to deal with F-9 on my primary computer and left F-9 unusable and with 
corrupted files, lost data.


Thanks for the suggestions.

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Re: URL error message in Thunderbird -

2009-03-24 Thread Kevin J. Cummings

Bob Goodwin wrote:
I copied .thunderbird, or at least parts of it, from F-9 to this F-10 
computer to transfer the mail.  That's probably where the request for a 
firefox 3.0.6 file came from!  I don't know where that reference to 
3.0.7 is made.  I can remove and reinstall thunderbird but I will loose 
mail and the mail filters.


I think I'll put that on my list of things to deal with later.


Then my suggestion would be to make your /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.6 
directory a symlink to your /usr/lib/firefox directory (which is 
probably a symlink to your /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.7 directory).

This may (or may not) fix your problem permanently

This shift to F-10  has been a disaster for me.  Preupgrade has failed 
to deal with F-9 on my primary computer and left F-9 unusable and with 
corrupted files, lost data.


Thanks for the suggestions.

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Re: URL error message in Thunderbird -

2009-03-24 Thread Bob Goodwin

Kevin J. Cummings wrote:

Bob Goodwin wrote:
I copied .thunderbird, or at least parts of it, from F-9 to this F-10 
computer to transfer the mail.  That's probably where the request for 
a firefox 3.0.6 file came from!  I don't know where that reference to 
3.0.7 is made.  I can remove and reinstall thunderbird but I will 
loose mail and the mail filters.


I think I'll put that on my list of things to deal with later.


Then my suggestion would be to make your /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.6 
directory a symlink to your /usr/lib/firefox directory (which is 
probably a symlink to your /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.7 directory).

This may (or may not) fix your problem permanently
Yes, I'll consider that.  In the mean time it's just a matter of pasting 
the URL in Firefox, something I might do once or twice a day.  I'll live 
with it for a while ...


Thanks.

Bob



This shift to F-10  has been a disaster for me.  Preupgrade has 
failed to deal with F-9 on my primary computer and left F-9 unusable 
and with corrupted files, lost data.


Thanks for the suggestions.

Bob






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Re: weather report applet dead again?

2009-03-24 Thread Robert Nichols

Frank Cox wrote:

On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:25:34 -0500
Robert Nichols wrote:


Looks like 3 applets all with variants of the same problem.


More like 3 applets, only one of which apparently has a problem.  The other two
update themselves after a period of time.


I filed the
bugzilla against the gweather-applet part of the gnome-applets package.
That's what I'm using, and it seems to be the only one that matches the
"--" display reported at the start of this thread.


Try the gnome clock applet instead.  It incorporates the same functionality as
gweather, and it's one less applet to run.


The clock applet lacks the Forecast and Radar Map tabs.  I use those quite a 
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Re: URL error message in Thunderbird -

2009-03-24 Thread Robert Nichols

Bob Goodwin wrote:

Remi Collet wrote:

Le 24/03/2009 20:00, Kevin J. Cummings a écrit :
 

Bob Goodwin wrote:
   

This is an F-10 updated computer and I am getting an error when I
click on a URL in a Thunderbird email:

   Error showing url: Failed to execute child process
   "/usr/lib/firefox-3.0.6/firefox" (No such file or directory)

Is this a recognized problem or am I unique?
Bob

  

Given that the current firefox is version 3.0.7, I have to ask.  Are you
running the current firefox?  If so, something screwed up in your
update.  If not, then have you ever modified Thunderbird's about:config
to point to a specific firefox?  Clearly the preferred application
pointer is not right, the only question is "why is it not right".




If, at first FF 3.0.6 launch, when it ask about default browser you 
answer


- yes : become my default browser
(it save /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.6/firefox in gnome config)
- no : don't check this again
(it will not check and save new path in gnome config)

So : you shouldn't anwser Yes to the first question

Fix : System / Pref. / Personal / Pref app => Firefox
(will save firefox (without path) in the gnome pref)

Improvment : defaulf firefox config should be set to not test default
browser on Launch:  browser.shell.checkDefaultBrowser = false

Hope that helps
Remi.

  


I copied .thunderbird, or at least parts of it, from F-9 to this F-10 
computer to transfer the mail.  That's probably where the request for a 
firefox 3.0.6 file came from!  I don't know where that reference to 
3.0.7 is made.  I can remove and reinstall thunderbird but I will loose 
mail and the mail filters.


I think I'll put that on my list of things to deal with later.


It's not a setting within Thunderbird.  From the main menu, go to
System -> Preferences -> Personal -> Preferred Applications
and fix the Web Browser setting.

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Re: Anyone unable to run specifc applications after recent selinux-policy?

2009-03-24 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)
Mike Cloaked wrote:
> 

 that
>> aMSN not working here.
>>
>>> setenforce 0
>>>
>>> and see if they run.
>> No difference, no errors of any descrition, even from cli
>>
>>

Well, I still have the aMSN problem, after todays updates.
But I can get it working if I "sudo /usr/bin/amsn".
Otherwise nothing.

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Re: URL error message in Thunderbird -

2009-03-24 Thread Bob Goodwin

Robert Nichols wrote:

Bob Goodwin wrote:

Remi Collet wrote:

Le 24/03/2009 20:00, Kevin J. Cummings a écrit :
 

Bob Goodwin wrote:
  

This is an F-10 updated computer and I am getting an error when I
click on a URL in a Thunderbird email:

   Error showing url: Failed to execute child process
   "/usr/lib/firefox-3.0.6/firefox" (No such file or directory)

Is this a recognized problem or am I unique?
Bob

  
Given that the current firefox is version 3.0.7, I have to ask.  
Are you

running the current firefox?  If so, something screwed up in your
update.  If not, then have you ever modified Thunderbird's 
about:config

to point to a specific firefox?  Clearly the preferred application
pointer is not right, the only question is "why is it not right".




If, at first FF 3.0.6 launch, when it ask about default browser you 
answer


- yes : become my default browser
(it save /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.6/firefox in gnome config)
- no : don't check this again
(it will not check and save new path in gnome config)

So : you shouldn't anwser Yes to the first question

Fix : System / Pref. / Personal / Pref app => Firefox
(will save firefox (without path) in the gnome pref)

Improvment : defaulf firefox config should be set to not test default
browser on Launch:  browser.shell.checkDefaultBrowser = false

Hope that helps
Remi.

  


I copied .thunderbird, or at least parts of it, from F-9 to this F-10 
computer to transfer the mail.  That's probably where the request for 
a firefox 3.0.6 file came from!  I don't know where that reference to 
3.0.7 is made.  I can remove and reinstall thunderbird but I will 
loose mail and the mail filters.


I think I'll put that on my list of things to deal with later.


It's not a setting within Thunderbird.  From the main menu, go to
System -> Preferences -> Personal -> Preferred Applications
and fix the Web Browser setting.

Ok, you were right!  I believe someone pointed me in that direction 
earlier but I normally run xfce not Gnome and didn't bother checking that.


Problem solved.

Thanks.

Bob

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Re: weather report applet dead again?

2009-03-24 Thread Steven Stern
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On 03/24/2009 05:50 PM, Robert Nichols wrote:
> Frank Cox wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:25:34 -0500
>> Robert Nichols wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like 3 applets all with variants of the same problem.
>>
>> More like 3 applets, only one of which apparently has a problem.  The
>> other two
>> update themselves after a period of time.
>>
>>> I filed the
>>> bugzilla against the gweather-applet part of the gnome-applets package.
>>> That's what I'm using, and it seems to be the only one that matches the
>>> "--" display reported at the start of this thread.
>>
>> Try the gnome clock applet instead.  It incorporates the same
>> functionality as
>> gweather, and it's one less applet to run.
> 
> The clock applet lacks the Forecast and Radar Map tabs.  I use those
> quite a bit.
> 
And I don't see any weather, despite having checked the options.

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Re: konsole trouble

2009-03-24 Thread Gerhard Magnus
On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 11:09 -0600, Robert Singleton wrote:
> I'm running Fedora 10 under the Gnome desktop on a Toshiba laptop. Last 
> night I seem to have messed up the konsole application (not sure how, 
> but I think it turned dark, wouldn't respond, so I killed the app), and 
> now it will not launch (although Terminal will launch, but I don't 
> really like Terminal). The problem is also present with other user 
> accounts, so it doesn't seem like it's a local profile setting. The 
> Microsoft fix of rebooting does not solve the problem either. Any 
> suggestions? Thanks very much in advance if you can help me.
> 
> Robert Singleton

This also happened to me this morning -- konsole just won't launch for
no apparent reason. I've switched to Terminal for the time being

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[OT] Noys, a Fedora based desktop system for web developers

2009-03-24 Thread info
Hi all,
I'd like to convey a new Fedora based system created for Web Developers:
Noys

It features a LAMP workstation ready to run containing:

* Apache 2.2
* MySQL 5.0
* MySQL Administrator
* MySQL Query Browser
* PHP 5.2 with some extensions  (PDO, MySQL, PEAR)
* XDebug
* NetBeans 6.5
* Subversion with Nautilus integration
* Firefox 3.0.7 with some plugins (Firebug, Web Developer Toolbar,
Greasemonkey)
* gFTP
* GIMP 2.6

The official web site:
http://www.noysweb.net

The download link:
http://noysweb.mirror.garr.it/mirrors/noysweb/iso/noys-livecd-0.8.iso

The screenshots gallery:
http://www.noysweb.net/screenshots/

Cheers
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Re: xen in fedora now

2009-03-24 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
yes you can.

there are also kvm


2009/3/24 chloe K :
> Hi all
>
> What is xen kernel in fedora now?
>
> Can I use it as virtual private server?
>
> or I have to download xen kernel to recompile to support xen
>
> Thank you
>
> 
> Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo!
> Answers.
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Application to view manipulate stl files

2009-03-24 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Anyone know what I can use on F10 to do this (besides brl-cad)? The
extent of the manipulation would as simple as cutting the model so I
could view only a section of interest.

Thanks!
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Re: [OT] Noys, a Fedora based desktop system for web developers

2009-03-24 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 17:24 -0600, i...@noysweb.net wrote:

> * Subversion with Nautilus integration

How do you do that?

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Re: Missing Hardware After Update

2009-03-24 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 12:50 -0400, Gene Poole wrote:
> The DVD drive is on the single IDE connection and it is set to be the
> slave 

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Re: [OT] Noys, a Fedora based desktop system for web developers

2009-03-24 Thread info
> How do you do that?
gnubversion

cheers
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Re: konsole trouble

2009-03-24 Thread Tom Diehl

On Tue, 24 Mar 2009, Gerhard Magnus wrote:


On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 11:09 -0600, Robert Singleton wrote:

I'm running Fedora 10 under the Gnome desktop on a Toshiba laptop. Last
night I seem to have messed up the konsole application (not sure how,
but I think it turned dark, wouldn't respond, so I killed the app), and
now it will not launch (although Terminal will launch, but I don't
really like Terminal). The problem is also present with other user
accounts, so it doesn't seem like it's a local profile setting. The
Microsoft fix of rebooting does not solve the problem either. Any
suggestions? Thanks very much in advance if you can help me.

Robert Singleton


This also happened to me this morning -- konsole just won't launch for
no apparent reason. I've switched to Terminal for the time being


For me it crashes. I have tracked it down to a problem with the configuration
settings that I have used for the last 10+ years. It seems that they decided
to remove the vt420pc terminal type from the list of valid choices. So far I
cannot find any documentation that explains this change. I have found that
there is a file  /home/tdiehl/.kde/share/apps/konsole/Shell.profile that
contains a line KeyBindings=vt420pc. If I rm that line konsole will start.
If that line is there then konsole crashes.

So, does anyone know where I can find the documentation that explains this
change and how to get my keybindings to work properly again?

Oh by the way this is not only screwed up on my F10 system I have the same
problem on F9.

FWIW:

(tigger pts8) # rpm -q kdebase
kdebase-4.2.1-2.fc10.x86_64
(tigger pts8) #

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keepassx-0.3.4-3.fc10,i386 fails to start

2009-03-24 Thread Dennis Kaptain

keepassx fails to start

On Mar 05 I upgraded to version-0.3.4-1 which worked perfectly
On Mar 24 I upgraded to version-0.3.4-3 which fails to start

# grep keepassx /var/log/yum.log
Mar 05 18:11:56 Updated: keepassx-0.3.4-1.fc10.i386
Mar 24 08:55:28 Updated: keepassx-0.3.4-3.fc10.i386

When I enter keepassx from a terminal it hangs and I need to ^C to get back my 
prompt. When I start it from the GNOME menu it starts a process that hangs and 
must be killed manually. Nothing ever appears on the screen in either case. I 
expect to see the GUI come up and prompt for a data file to open.

I tried strace keepassx. Results are available at 
http://www.kaptain.us/tmp/keepassx.strace

If it helps, I have a 64 bit system which also has keepassx on it and version 
0.3.4-3 runs fine there.
# grep keepassx /var/log/yum.log
Mar 06 17:22:02 Updated: keepassx-0.3.4-1.fc10.x86_64
Mar 23 17:08:35 Updated: keepassx-0.3.4-3.fc10.x86_64

Does this have anything to do with the java updates I got at the same time? Or 
was it decided that there wasn't anything wrong with the java updates after all?
# grep java /var/log/yum.log
Mar 24 08:55:15 Updated: 1:java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-11.b14.fc10.i386
Mar 24 08:55:24 Updated: 1:java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin-1.6.0.0-11.b14.fc10.i386

Any insights would be helpful. I use keepassx all the time and for obvious 
reasons it's quite important to me.

For future reference, given that keepassx is using AES encryption and I know 
the password, how would I decrypt that data file without the benefit of 
keepassx should I ever need to?

This looks like a bug. What URL do I visit to file one?

Thanks


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Ayuda con GRUB

2009-03-24 Thread Andres Guzman
Camaradas buenas noches, quisiera pedire su ayuda en un tema que ya no le
encuentro solucion, el problema es que en mi laptop tengo instalado Win XP
(hd0,0) y Fedora 9 (hd0,5). El problema es que necesito reinstalar windows,
ahora el problema esta es que no puedo botear con el cd de XP (despues de
presionar el boton de comenzar con CD) la pantalla se va a negro y nop hace
nada, esto con cualquier cd para botear.

Eh tratado de todo, creo que la manera mas facil es desinstalar el GRUB
(cosa que no se como hacer), para luego poder instalar WinXP y despues
reinstalar el grub.

O existira alguna otra forma de poder hacer que corra el cd de XP.

Les agradecería mucho su ayuda, desde ya muchas gracias.
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Re: Ayuda con GRUB

2009-03-24 Thread Dennis Kaptain

Hola Andres,
Yo he encontrado un sito que habla de su problema. 
http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-503125.html
Aunque está de ubuntu no importa. GRUB está lo mismo en Fedora.

Como lo que dijo usuario lkraemer, obtener supergrub de 
http://www.supergrubdisk.org/

http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/ contiene información de «dual boot» que 
debe que saber.

Supergrub va a remover grub y se puede boot de su XP disco.

¡Nunca he tratado esto a mi mismo! Así que no sé por cierto si lo funciona o no.
 
En el futuro, si se puede, escribir a este lista en ingles por favor. No 
importa si su ingles no está muy bien. No creo que hay muchas personas aquí que 
hablan español y pueden ayudarle.

Saludos,
Dennis K




De: Andres Guzman 
Para: fedora-list@redhat.com
Enviado: martes, 24 de marzo, 2009 23:03:35
Asunto: Ayuda con GRUB

Camaradas buenas noches, quisiera pedire su ayuda en un tema que ya no le 
encuentro solucion, el problema es que en mi laptop tengo instalado Win XP 
(hd0,0) y Fedora 9 (hd0,5). El problema es que necesito reinstalar windows, 
ahora el problema esta es que no puedo botear con el cd de XP (despues de 
presionar el boton de comenzar con CD) la pantalla se va a negro y nop hace 
nada, esto con cualquier cd para botear. 

Eh tratado de todo, creo que la manera mas facil es desinstalar el GRUB (cosa 
que no se como hacer), para luego poder instalar WinXP y despues reinstalar el 
grub.

O existira alguna otra forma de poder hacer que corra el cd de XP.

Les agradecería mucho su ayuda, desde ya muchas gracias.


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Re: Ayuda con GRUB

2009-03-24 Thread Javier Perez
Yo si he usado supergrubdisk y creeme, de mi biblioteca no se mueve. Hace lo
que promete y lo hace bien! Fue una experiencia excelente! Totalmente
recomendado.

Translation: I have indeed used Supergrubdisk and believeme, it won't move
from my library It works as promised and it works quite well. I had a
very good experience using it. I totally recommend it

JP

2009/3/24 Dennis Kaptain 

>
> Hola Andres,
> Yo he encontrado un sito que habla de su problema.
> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-503125.html
> Aunque está de ubuntu no importa. GRUB está lo mismo en Fedora.
>
> Como lo que dijo usuario lkraemer, obtener supergrub de
> http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
>
> http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/ contiene información de «dual
> boot» que debe que saber.
>
> Supergrub va a remover grub y se puede boot de su XP disco.
>
> ¡Nunca he tratado esto a mi mismo! Así que no sé por cierto si lo funciona
> o no.
>
> En el futuro, si se puede, escribir a este lista en ingles por favor. No
> importa si su ingles no está muy bien. No creo que hay muchas personas aquí
> que hablan español y pueden ayudarle.
>
> Saludos,
> Dennis K
>
>
>
> 
> De: Andres Guzman 
> Para: fedora-list@redhat.com
> Enviado: martes, 24 de marzo, 2009 23:03:35
> Asunto: Ayuda con GRUB
>
> Camaradas buenas noches, quisiera pedire su ayuda en un tema que ya no le
> encuentro solucion, el problema es que en mi laptop tengo instalado Win XP
> (hd0,0) y Fedora 9 (hd0,5). El problema es que necesito reinstalar windows,
> ahora el problema esta es que no puedo botear con el cd de XP (despues de
> presionar el boton de comenzar con CD) la pantalla se va a negro y nop hace
> nada, esto con cualquier cd para botear.
>
> Eh tratado de todo, creo que la manera mas facil es desinstalar el GRUB
> (cosa que no se como hacer), para luego poder instalar WinXP y despues
> reinstalar el grub.
>
> O existira alguna otra forma de poder hacer que corra el cd de XP.
>
> Les agradecería mucho su ayuda, desde ya muchas gracias.
>
>
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