Re: F11 wood wallpaper
Máirín Duffy wrote: From: Thomas Kole diloph...@gmail.com No comments about mine? =( (http://dilopho-dd.deviantart.com/art/Fedora-wood-wallpaper-v2-116975355) We are looking for artwork that relates to Fedora 11's codename, Leonidas. A lion being a king (as Leonidas was) or images depicting Greek scenery fit in with the release codename. I'm not sure how wood fits in, but maybe you have an idea? Other than that we have an explicit policy to not ship wallpapers with the Fedora logo in them. This not only makes our wallpapers more generally useful, but also lessens the complications for folks who repackage Fedora under a different name (eg unofficial spins). Máirín is right. Also for a *defaut* Fedora theme, I would like to use some blue, even if a secondary color. I think, personally, the wallpaper would look a lot nicer without the Fedora logo. It looks like something I might like to use as my own wallpaper, actually, if it didn't have the logo superimposed on it. :) I like how the wood gives the wallpaper a natural feel and how the lighting suggests a stage. Did you use a texture/pattern to create it? It may be interesting to have the texture at a certain angle, not strictly vertical. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
My favorite is four too. It's cool and simple. 2009/4/1 Máirín Duffy mai...@linuxgrrl.com - Original Message From: Charlie Brej fedora-...@brej.org http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion.jpghttp://www.cs.man.ac.uk/%7Ebrejc8/temp/lion.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion2.jpghttp://www.cs.man.ac.uk/%7Ebrejc8/temp/lion2.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion3.jpghttp://www.cs.man.ac.uk/%7Ebrejc8/temp/lion3.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion4.jpghttp://www.cs.man.ac.uk/%7Ebrejc8/temp/lion4.jpg 4 without a doubt although it still needs more work. The others are too noisy for a boot screen. I agree with Martin that there should only be one progress bar, along the bottom. I think maybe using the fedora logo centered without the infinity bubble, only the logotype, might work better with the mood too. (background is heavily/grungy textured while the infinty bubble is very shiny/baubly and they kind of clash) ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
On Wednesday 01 April 2009 00:01:40 Charlie Brej wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: Also, some of our splash ideas (http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/gnome-splash_f11-4. png for example, with the Greek pattern) could be adapted to use the lion instead, so we would still be able to take advantage of that work. I made a couple plymouth options that combine the greek pattern with the theme. There are 4 levels of complexity. Which one do people think is best? http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion2.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion3.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion4.jpg Personally I vote for 4th Lion. I like 3rd too but black spots look weird. Maybe without lines layer a black spot it will be better, now it's too complicated for splash/KDM background. I can image transition from this background to desktop wallpaper with lion. But there's still one issue - once I use this as KDM/KSplash, we need more backgrounds distributed (maybe one resolution is enough for such simple background even I don't have to deal with wide/normal version)... Could you publish it somewhere? And as Martin pointed out - only one progress bar and match it's color with background. Thanks all involved for this wonderful work! Jaroslav ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Jaroslav Řezník jrez...@redhat.com Associate Software Engineer - Base Operating Systems Brno Office: +420 532 294 275 Mobile: +420 731 455 332 Red Hat, Inc. http://cz.redhat.com/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
Máirín Duffy wrote: From: Charlie Brej http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion2.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion3.jpg http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/lion4.jpg 4 without a doubt although it still needs more work. The others are too noisy for a boot screen. I'm also going for 4, it would be easier to make a GRUB splash matching. And when the boot process end and GDM kick is, the lion will just pop-up over the already existing background, for a good effect, methinks. I agree with Martin that there should only be one progress bar, along the bottom. I think maybe using the fedora logo centered without the infinity bubble, only the logotype, might work better with the mood too. (background is heavily/grungy textured while the infinty bubble is very shiny/baubly and they kind of clash) Yup, one progress bar and maybe larger. I think it would be tiresome (and redundant) to watch two bars progressing at the same time. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Art team feature
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Bill DeJohn a écrit :
|
|
| Questionnaire.
| lt;!-- @page { margin: 0.79in } P { margin-bottom: 0.08in } --gt;
|
| Tell us about Fedora.
|
Fedora is all participation from contributors, creating projects that
will benefit to Free and Open Source community
and innovations. It is about blending both commercial and community into
one to provide an operating system which is
both cutter edge and stable.
| Give us some history on each art team member. Anyone have formal
training? Who or what influenced you to get involved?
|
I have recently completed training in Graphic Design. I started to get
involved as self-taught designer where I worked on some icons like
echo-icon-theme and wallpaper. Due to school, I mostly gave feedback and
suggestion until recently.
| What other Linux distros have you done work for? Any independent Linux
groups you've contributed artwork to?
|
|
Only Fedora and its sub-projects..
| Can you take us through the process from development to finalization
of artwork for a new release of Fedora? Does the general community
contribute also?
|
Nicu has addressed that question.
|
|
| What are your favorite Linux graphics software programs?
|
Inkscape which I found far better than Adobe Illustrator product,
Gimp because it provides features not found on Adobe Photoshop like
Smart Sharper and less RAM hungry,
Scribus with is colour circle
Blender for being light in space and freely available so designers can
easily grasp 3D concept
|
| Any thoughts on ease of use or what you'd like to see changed in Linux
graphics software?
|
Gimp, support of group layers, CMYK process once GEGL will mature,
non-destructive method support
Inkscape, better input from stylus, better support for file conversion
from Adobe Illustrator file
Scribus, better import/edit/export PDF support, InDesign file, and
better layout.
|
|
| As operating systems evolve so does their artwork. What direction or
development would you like to see with your work pertaining to the
future of Fedora?
|
More active participations within and outside the team. The latter is
important because there are potential designers are
shy to express due to language barrier. In a case of echo-icon-theme,
having feedback and beter documentation are crucial. It is a challenge
to work on tremendous project but it can be done.
|
| There are a lot of new distros popping up, seemingly every day. Any
advice you can give them on the graphics art side of it?
|
|
Nicu provided a good summary.
| If someone wanted to get involved with Fedora artwork, where would
they go?
|
In addition of joining Artwork mail-list, look for task to do on
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService
and wait for review.
|
| Anything else you'd like to add?
|
|
Not at all.
- --
Luya Tshimbalanga
Graphic Web Designer
E: l...@fedoraproject.org
W: http://thefinalzone.net (currently in Flash)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
iEYEARECAAYFAknTKYQACgkQa10Jb0NOz+HnSwCdHpebsKaZYZ1qWNaB2ik19VDB
kewAoKTecPNX3jFKGhQ85s099bs1Us5S
=Bca6
-END PGP SIGNATURE-
___
Fedora-art-list mailing list
Fedora-art-list@redhat.com
http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Art team feature
I think you answered all questions fully, explained very well how the Fedora Artwork and philosophy of Project Fedora works. Congratulations Nicu! Jayme Ayres 2009/4/1 Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro Nicu Buculei wrote: Bill DeJohn wrote: My name is Bill DeJohn ( Dadster ). I am co-founder of Linux Graphics Users forum. We have a monthly article where we feature a distros art team. http://linuxgraphicsusers.com/index.php?board=48.0 [...] Questionnaire. I'll go first... hope others will jump in and complete me. Nobody else stepping up for the interview? Mo, Martin, Tatica, anyone? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Jayme Ayres www.jaymeayres.com www.projetofedora.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JaymeAyres ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Art team feature
Aloha sorry the late reply Hello to you, I'm María Gracia Leandro but all the members know me as tatica. I'm a fedora ambassador from Venezuela and part of my work is to convert cute things into functional things. I'm working right now in several projects in Venezuela, LatinAmerica and some International Stuff, you can read a resume here [0]... now the questionnaire. Questionnaire. Tell us about Fedora. Fedora for me is a great collaborative network who support a learning and development group of interested people and a huge platform to take a chance of software freedom. We are an example of professionalism and friendship because we have a clearly and organized group of work (developers, artist, press, sponsors and lot more) but we are also a family. It's usual to se an IRC channel talking about the new wallpaper and also see some guys talking about their weekends. We offer an awesome Software but also a great mentored and helpful group. We are fedora Give us some history on each art team member. Anyone have formal training? Who or what influenced you to get involved? This is crazy... I got involved into the free software art looking videos on youtube of privative tools I lean all by myself, reading guides, looking videos, downloading artwork and asking a lot. Fedora came to me when I most need it. I'm not a pro user, but I love to desing... so fedora is a really stable an always first with software issues. I always have the newest and the stable on my fedora desktop (and now laptop :D ) What other Linux distros have you done work for? Any independent Linux groups you've contributed artwork to? Always... I use fedora because I love it, and I spead the fedora word but I don't get too much pression on my new users to be a fedora one. I always tell to them that they should use GN/Linux or *nix based because is good for them. They will be able to learn, share and use things that possibly they were afraid or they think that those are tool for professionals. I help with a lot of communities... some are: Venezuela: Fedora-Venezuela, Ubuntu-Venezuela, Gentoo-Venezuela, UNEFA-Lug, Bolivar-LUG, nelug, velug, and the main organization of Venezuela FLISoL (LatinAmerican Festival of feee software instalation [1] ) International: Gimp-Spanish, Inkscape-Spanish, Blender-Spanish, Also I'm on the translation team for synfig and support some cliparts for several applications. I ussualy help with some conferences like: Flisol, CNSL (National Congress of Free Software), SLUD (Universidad Distrital Linux Week) and more... And lot of more things :D Can you take us through the process from development to finalization of artwork for a new release of Fedora? Does the general community contribute also? Yes. I have never been involved directly on the release artwork, but I do help with some issues. A final artwork is not just a cute wallpaper and some icons and windows... You need banners (in a lot of languages), need news, posters, spins covers and lot of stuff. We all give something to the project... and that's the idea of being a community What are your favorite Linux graphics software programs? jooo... this is a hard one. Should be Gimp, Inkscape and Blender but I also like MakeHuman, SweetHome and synfig... It depends of the use. Any thoughts on ease of use or what you'd like to see changed in Linux graphics software? This is not a dream... it's happening. Al the changes I'd like to see are getting in progress because I'm not just a user. in fact, I'm not a really designer, I'm a programmer... so if I want to see something better on X application I program or ask the community to do it. They are also a community like the fedora one, and they take suggestions and advices... so the thing is not thing on changes... is made them. As operating systems evolve so does their artwork. What direction or development would you like to see with your work pertaining to the future of Fedora? Is the same question. We are working on have something that our users love. We have a lot of new ideas in progress and if anyone wants to say something to the artwork team is invited to colaborate... In any language! :D There are a lot of new distros popping up, seemingly every day. Any advice you can give them on the graphics art side of it? Always think in the simplicity and joy... Almost all users want a cool and easy distro, and that what they should have. If someone wanted to get involved with Fedora artwork, where would they go? To the fedora project main site we have a great website and a lot of local communities to help and mentor anyone who wants to get involved... [2] Anything else you'd like to add? We are free to choose distros... we are free to ask changes... we are free to collaborate with code and art... we are in a new free world and fedora have the tools to make it happen... so, what are you waiting for? [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tatica [1]
Re: New Concept for F11 King
Hi Samuele, - Original Message From: Samuele Storari sstor...@byte-code.com To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 6:23:47 AM Subject: Re: New Concept for F11 King Hi all https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:King_1920x1200.jpg This is the corrected version, I've left on this only one group of birds 'cause I think they give some light and a good design element to the image. I don't change the source on the wiki 'cause I've only turned off the layers visibility of the other elements. This is cool. How was it changed though? What was corrected? Then: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Anaconda_promp_screen_mockup.jpg This is my proposal for the Splash of this release, onestly I don't think mixing Lion with the greek style is so in line, 'cause they are 2 different themes, but this only my idea, so let the team decide what is best. These look very nice, but I think they are too thematic. Like, maybe if just the banner on the top had the lion or just the banner in the middle. But both having it seems a little overkill to me. I think we should go with a more abstract style for the banners. I think the Greek style actually works well and I'd rather see something a little more low-key / abstract like that on the splash banners. I think of any of the graphics, the wallpaper can be the most thematic, but the other artwork should really fade more into the background. In the afternoon I will post something for the Plymouth screen. Cool can you work with Charlie's mockups so we're not duplicating efforts? About the dual display I will make some test and then upload it, let me try something. Cool ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
Yes, maybe your right. I think we can use the center splash like what I've done for the installation and one more abstract for the header to not overcharge the graphic. So for the plymouth I vote for the version number 3. :D Samuele - Original Message - From: Máirín Duffy mai...@linuxgrrl.com To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com Sent: Wednesday, 1 April, 2009 3:40:31 PM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Vienna Subject: Re: New Concept for F11 King Hi Samuele, - Original Message From: Samuele Storari sstor...@byte-code.com To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2009 6:23:47 AM Subject: Re: New Concept for F11 King Hi all https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:King_1920x1200.jpg This is the corrected version, I've left on this only one group of birds 'cause I think they give some light and a good design element to the image. I don't change the source on the wiki 'cause I've only turned off the layers visibility of the other elements. This is cool. How was it changed though? What was corrected? Then: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Anaconda_promp_screen_mockup.jpg This is my proposal for the Splash of this release, onestly I don't think mixing Lion with the greek style is so in line, 'cause they are 2 different themes, but this only my idea, so let the team decide what is best. These look very nice, but I think they are too thematic. Like, maybe if just the banner on the top had the lion or just the banner in the middle. But both having it seems a little overkill to me. I think we should go with a more abstract style for the banners. I think the Greek style actually works well and I'd rather see something a little more low-key / abstract like that on the splash banners. I think of any of the graphics, the wallpaper can be the most thematic, but the other artwork should really fade more into the background. In the afternoon I will post something for the Plymouth screen. Cool can you work with Charlie's mockups so we're not duplicating efforts? About the dual display I will make some test and then upload it, let me try something. Cool ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list -- Samuele Storari Art Director Byte-Code srl mobile: +39 347 50 798 32 office: +39 02 9840047 http://www.byte-code.com ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: New Concept for F11 King
Samuele Storari wrote: Yes, maybe your right. I think we can use the center splash like what I've done for the installation and one more abstract for the header to not overcharge the graphic. So for the plymouth I vote for the version number 3. :D Could you use the linked image [1] as the rust layer? This would make it easy to make the desktop repeat as the left and right edges are matched. [1] http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/rust3.png ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F11 wood wallpaper
Nicu Buculei wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: From: Thomas Kole diloph...@gmail.com No comments about mine? =( (http://dilopho-dd.deviantart.com/art/Fedora-wood-wallpaper-v2-116975355) We are looking for artwork that relates to Fedora 11's codename, Leonidas. A lion being a king (as Leonidas was) or images depicting Greek scenery fit in with the release codename. I'm not sure how wood fits in, but maybe you have an idea? Other than that we have an explicit policy to not ship wallpapers with the Fedora logo in them. This not only makes our wallpapers more generally useful, but also lessens the complications for folks who repackage Fedora under a different name (eg unofficial spins). Máirín is right. Also for a *defaut* Fedora theme, I would like to use some blue, even if a secondary color. No sorry, blue would look awful with brown. It dont have to be a standard wallpaper, like the solar is now, but more like the stone bird and the ladybugs :) I think, personally, the wallpaper would look a lot nicer without the Fedora logo. It looks like something I might like to use as my own wallpaper, actually, if it didn't have the logo superimposed on it. :) I like how the wood gives the wallpaper a natural feel and how the lighting suggests a stage. Did you use a texture/pattern to create it? It may be interesting to have the texture at a certain angle, not strictly vertical. No sorry, it wont look good with that too. But if you want to try, Ill upload the .xcf to my website. Link comes soon. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F11 wood wallpaper
- Original Message From: Thomas Kole diloph...@gmail.com I think, personally, the wallpaper would look a lot nicer without the Fedora logo. It looks like something I might like to use as my own wallpaper, actually, if it didn't have the logo superimposed on it. :) I like how the wood gives the wallpaper a natural feel and how the lighting suggests a stage. Did you use a texture/pattern to create it? It may be interesting to have the texture at a certain angle, not strictly vertical. No sorry, it wont look good with that too. But if you want to try, Ill upload the .xcf to my website. Link comes soon. What do you man? It wouldn't look good at an angle? Or it wouldn't look good without the Fedora logo? Was wondering about the answer to my question about if you used a texture/pattern to create it. It seems you missed it? ~m ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F11 wood wallpaper
Máirín Duffy wrote: - Original Message From: Thomas Kole diloph...@gmail.com I think, personally, the wallpaper would look a lot nicer without the Fedora logo. It looks like something I might like to use as my own wallpaper, actually, if it didn't have the logo superimposed on it. :) I like how the wood gives the wallpaper a natural feel and how the lighting suggests a stage. Did you use a texture/pattern to create it? It may be interesting to have the texture at a certain angle, not strictly vertical. No sorry, it wont look good with that too. But if you want to try, Ill upload the .xcf to my website. Link comes soon. What do you man? It wouldn't look good at an angle? Or it wouldn't look good without the Fedora logo? Was wondering about the answer to my question about if you used a texture/pattern to create it. It seems you missed it? ~m I mean when it has an angle. Yeah, it was made with a pattern and i made it myself. Of course. Regards, Thomas Kole ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: F11 wood wallpaper
Thomas Kole wrote: [snipped] Nicu Buculei wrote: Máirín is right. Also for a *defaut* Fedora theme, I would like to use some blue, even if a secondary color. No sorry, blue would look awful with brown. [snipped] Actually, it appears that someone else thought blue would've been fine: http://oliuss.deviantart.com/art/Hardwood-Night-88299626?offset=10 http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1649/welcomebackgroundbg.jpg -- Justin Fuhrer ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
[Bug 483329] cjkuni-fonts : Unowned directories
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=483329 Michael Schwendt bugs.mich...@gmx.net changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||Reopened Status|CLOSED |ASSIGNED Resolution|RAWHIDE | --- Comment #3 from Michael Schwendt bugs.mich...@gmx.net 2009-04-01 06:28:07 EDT --- = cjkuni-fonts-0.2.20080216.1-21.fc11.src.rpm = cjkuni-fonts-compat-0.2.20080216.1-21.fc11.noarch (rawhide) /usr/share/fonts/zh_TW /usr/share/fonts/zh_TW/TrueType /usr/share/fonts/zh_CN /usr/share/fonts/zh_CN/TrueType -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 483327] baekmuk-ttf-fonts : Unowned directories
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=483327 --- Comment #5 from Michael Schwendt bugs.mich...@gmx.net 2009-04-01 06:32:14 EDT --- Should all these packages depend on the fontpackages-filesystem package? That one provides four directories needed here. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 483327] baekmuk-ttf-fonts : Unowned directories
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=483327 --- Comment #6 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-04-01 06:48:38 EDT --- If the official template is respected the font subpackages depend on the common subpackage and the common subpackage depends on fontpackages-filesystem -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 483327] baekmuk-ttf-fonts : Unowned directories
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=483327 Michael Schwendt bugs.mich...@gmx.net changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||Reopened Status|CLOSED |ASSIGNED Resolution|RAWHIDE | --- Comment #7 from Michael Schwendt bugs.mich...@gmx.net 2009-04-01 06:56:53 EDT --- Then there's a missing dep in baekmuk-ttf-fonts, because the following unowned directories are found: $ ./dircheck-remote.py -r rawhide -n ^baekmuk [...] = baekmuk-ttf-fonts-2.2-20.fc11.src.rpm = baekmuk-ttf-batang-fonts-2.2-20.fc11.noarch (rawhide) /etc/fonts provided by: fontpackages-filesystem-1.20-2.fc11.noarch /etc/fonts/conf.d provided by: fontpackages-filesystem-1.20-2.fc11.noarch /usr/share/fontconfig provided by: fontpackages-filesystem-1.20-2.fc11.noarch /usr/share/fontconfig/conf.avail provided by: fontpackages-filesystem-1.20-2.fc11.noarch = baekmuk-ttf-fonts-2.2-20.fc11.src.rpm = baekmuk-ttf-dotum-fonts-2.2-20.fc11.noarch (rawhide) /etc/fonts provided by: fontpackages-filesystem-1.20-2.fc11.noarch /etc/fonts/conf.d provided by: fontpackages-filesystem-1.20-2.fc11.noarch /usr/share/fontconfig provided by: fontpackages-filesystem-1.20-2.fc11.noarch /usr/share/fontconfig/conf.avail provided by: fontpackages-filesystem-1.20-2.fc11.noarch = baekmuk-ttf-fonts-2.2-20.fc11.src.rpm = baekmuk-ttf-gulim-fonts-2.2-20.fc11.noarch (rawhide) /etc/fonts provided by: fontpackages-filesystem-1.20-2.fc11.noarch /etc/fonts/conf.d provided by: fontpackages-filesystem-1.20-2.fc11.noarch /usr/share/fontconfig provided by: fontpackages-filesystem-1.20-2.fc11.noarch /usr/share/fontconfig/conf.avail provided by: fontpackages-filesystem-1.20-2.fc11.noarch = baekmuk-ttf-fonts-2.2-20.fc11.src.rpm = baekmuk-ttf-hline-fonts-2.2-20.fc11.noarch (rawhide) /etc/fonts provided by: fontpackages-filesystem-1.20-2.fc11.noarch /etc/fonts/conf.d provided by: fontpackages-filesystem-1.20-2.fc11.noarch /usr/share/fontconfig provided by: fontpackages-filesystem-1.20-2.fc11.noarch /usr/share/fontconfig/conf.avail provided by: fontpackages-filesystem-1.20-2.fc11.noarch -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 475661] Review Request: google-droid-fonts - General-purpose fonts released by Google as part of Android
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=475661 Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu changed: What|Removed |Added CC||feng.sh...@gmail.com --- Comment #5 from Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu 2009-04-01 10:17:37 EDT --- *** Bug 493240 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 491530] Review Request: letterslaughing-fonts - Decorative/LED sans-serif font
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=491530 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net changed: What|Removed |Added AssignedTo|nicolas.mail...@laposte.net |sanjay.an...@gmail.com Flag|fedora-review? |fedora-review+ --- Comment #9 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-04-01 15:43:32 EDT --- This one is a go. Though I'm sure someone will report someday weird behaviours in apps du to the strange family/style names. You'll need to relay upstream then. ⑆⑆⑆ APPROVED ⑆⑆⑆ You can now continue from http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Font_package_lifecycle#3.a Thank you for packaging a new Fedora font. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 492797] Review Request: ofl-goudy-bookletter-1911-fonts - Clean serif font based on Kennerly Old Style
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492797 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net changed: What|Removed |Added AssignedTo|nicolas.mail...@laposte.net |tcall...@redhat.com Flag|fedora-review? |fedora-review+ --- Comment #3 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-04-01 16:29:10 EDT --- This one is a go ⬬⬬⬬ APPROVED ⬬⬬⬬ You can now continue on from http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Font_package_lifecycle#3.a -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 492797] Review Request: ofl-goudy-bookletter-1911-fonts - Clean serif font based on Kennerly Old Style
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492797 Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Flag||fedora-cvs+ --- Comment #4 from Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com 2009-04-01 16:50:39 EDT --- New Package CVS Request === Package Name: oflb-goudy-bookletter-1911-fonts Short Description: Clean serif font based on Kennerly Old Style Owners: spot Branches: F-9 F-10 devel InitialCC: fonts-sig ... and it's done. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 489117] Review Request: tulrich-tuffy-fonts - Generic sans font
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=489117 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net changed: What|Removed |Added AssignedTo|nicolas.mail...@laposte.net |a.bad...@gmail.com Flag|fedora-review? |fedora-review+ --- Comment #5 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-04-01 16:38:29 EDT --- This one is good. Please do register as co-maintainers for this package :p ⵀⵀⵀ APPROVED ⵀⵀⵀ You can now continue from http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Font_package_lifecycle#3.a Thank you for packaging one of the oldest font packaging requests in Fedora -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 492797] Review Request: ofl-goudy-bookletter-1911-fonts - Clean serif font based on Kennerly Old Style
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492797 Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED Resolution||RAWHIDE --- Comment #5 from Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com 2009-04-01 17:17:56 EDT --- I branched it for F-9 and F-10, but it would not build for either target because the versions of fontforge on those branches does not have support for the python extensions (rawhide does). It is built in rawhide. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 493479] Review Request: woodardworks-laconic-fonts - An artistic and minimal sans-serif font family
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=493479 Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||fedora-fonts-bugs-l...@redh ||at.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 489117] Review Request: tulrich-tuffy-fonts - Generic sans font
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=489117 Toshio Ernie Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Flag||fedora-cvs? --- Comment #6 from Toshio Ernie Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com 2009-04-01 17:49:04 EDT --- Thanks Nicolas and Felix! New Package CVS Request === Package Name: tulrich-tuffy-fonts Short Description: Generic sans font Owners: toshio fschwarz Branches: devel InitialCC: fonts-sig -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
Re: Fedora Calendering system: listing clear requirements.
On Sun, 2009-03-29 at 08:50 +0530, susmit shannigrahi wrote: Hi, The other mail was getting too long. I am writing this as I think I have found the solution. (by using zicula and phpical together) So I want to understand the required functionalities. What I have got so far: 1. Having a calender. ;) 2. Updating and Syncing from different clients using caldev protocol. 3. Having a web-interface to view/update/sync the calenders. Sounds exactly right, yes. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: sysadmin group
that's the life of network geeks. alerts make us feel alive! :-) i just applied to the group now. On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, 30 Mar 2009, Rino Mardo wrote: ok i found a FIG and it's called sysadmin. i think this is the closest to my actual experience. i want to join sysadmin. should i apply now or wait for a nod? Yep, that's a good one to apply for as any other sysadmin-* groups require it. Let me know once you've applied and I'll make sure to sponsor you... beware though... you'll start getting nagios alerts. -Mike ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Translation Toolchain Freeze
In Fedora's 6-month cycle, there are a few weeks in which translators are working full-steam. These are the period for software translation and one for Docs translations. During these periods the L10n Infrastructure should be considered frozen, otherwise the work of a few hundred people will be interrupted (currently 40+ commits per day are taking place). Looking at poelstra's schedule [1], these freeze periods are: 2009-03-10 - 2009-04-14 2009-04-29 - 2009-05-14 If there's a document we need to have these added, please let me know. Having the same process (+1s etc) for L10n Infra would be great, IMO. -d [1] http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-11/f-11-trans-tasks.html -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: gle...@jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither. (Anonymous) -- ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Logs from f-peeps
Some of the recent Test Day live images were hosted from fedorapeople.org space. I'd like to find out how many downloads there were of these images, but I can't read /var/log/httpd on that host (which makes sense). Are those logs supposed to be separate? If so, I probably need some help with this request and can file a ticket. If not, well I can still file a ticket. :-) Paul pgp1NmfeJdpbH.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Logs from f-peeps
2009/4/1 Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com: Some of the recent Test Day live images were hosted from fedorapeople.org space. I'd like to find out how many downloads there were of these images, but I can't read /var/log/httpd on that host (which makes sense). Are those logs supposed to be separate? If so, I probably need some help with this request and can file a ticket. If not, well I can still file a ticket. :-) I need to fix fedorahosted not reporting in awstats (since the logs aren't on log1). I'll fix people1 at the same time if no one objects. ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Logs from f-peeps
On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote: Some of the recent Test Day live images were hosted from fedorapeople.org space. I'd like to find out how many downloads there were of these images, but I can't read /var/log/httpd on that host (which makes sense). Are those logs supposed to be separate? If so, I probably need some help with this request and can file a ticket. If not, well I can still file a ticket. :-) Which user's site hosted them? I can query the logs and dump those out if you can tell me. -sv ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Logs from f-peeps
On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 07:15:23PM -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote: Some of the recent Test Day live images were hosted from fedorapeople.org space. I'd like to find out how many downloads there were of these images, but I can't read /var/log/httpd on that host (which makes sense). Are those logs supposed to be separate? If so, I probably need some help with this request and can file a ticket. If not, well I can still file a ticket. :-) Which user's site hosted them? I can query the logs and dump those out if you can tell me. It was James Laska's (jlaska). The filenames changed but I think they all used something pretty obvious like testday-live in the middle. Daily counts for the month of March would be fine. I hear Jon is busy getting these logs moved over, so *please* put this at the very bottom of your pile, and discard if the ticket is closed before you get to it. https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1306 -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgppPz5iH4qUy.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Logs from f-peeps
On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 08:59:40PM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 07:15:23PM -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote: Some of the recent Test Day live images were hosted from fedorapeople.org space. I'd like to find out how many downloads there were of these images, but I can't read /var/log/httpd on that host (which makes sense). Are those logs supposed to be separate? If so, I probably need some help with this request and can file a ticket. If not, well I can still file a ticket. :-) Which user's site hosted them? I can query the logs and dump those out if you can tell me. It was James Laska's (jlaska). The filenames changed but I think they all used something pretty obvious like testday-live in the middle. Daily counts for the month of March would be fine. I hear Jon is busy getting these logs moved over, so *please* put this at the very bottom of your pile, and discard if the ticket is closed before you get to it. https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1306 By the time I posted this, Jon was done. You guys are too good! -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgpHnSRl96Ri6.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Patch incomplete write error not returned to NFS client
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:17:24 -0400 Victor vicander...@gmail.com wrote: Request for integrating this patch into the next kernel update for Fedora 10. The patch fixes a bug in NFS where an error will not be returned to the NFS client when an incomplete write happens at the filesystem level on the server. http://git.linux-nfs.org/?p=bfields/linux.git;a=commitdiff;h=192a3cb6bc1f12a0af55bcf2fbb6e923d48a5b58;hp=82f69c6c0efae204dbf428f5c93fcc8d088696c2 Please file a bug against Fedora 10 in bugzilla so we can track this. ___ Fedora-kernel-list mailing list Fedora-kernel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-kernel-list
[Fedora-legal-list] New GCC runtime library exception
Hi! Could you please eyeball http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gcc-exception.html which is supposed to be added to the ATM GPL2+special exception libraries/crtfiles from GCC, it will be very much appreciated. Thanks. Jakub ___ Fedora-legal-list mailing list Fedora-legal-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legal-list
Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Potential problem with Bitttorrent DHT
On 03/30/2009 07:37 AM, David Nielsen wrote: As is pointed out by upstream for Monsoon, Novell have disallowed DHT implementation from the openSUSE repos based on a legal risk as assessed by openSUSE Legal. The precise nature of the problem is unclear from the initial mail but Alan McGovern says he will provide information to interested parties, as such I would like some input from Fedora Legal if the problem applies to Fedora as well. Relevant information https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492297 http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-gnome/2009-03/msg00048.html Regards, David Nielsen David, I've reached out to my counterpart on the openSUSE side, but I have not yet heard anything in response. Without more information as to the problem, I don't think we can make an intelligent decision here. If Alan is willing to send information to me, we will certainly review the situation. Thanks, ~tom ___ Fedora-legal-list mailing list Fedora-legal-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legal-list
Re: [Fedora-legal-list] New GCC runtime library exception
On 04/01/2009 09:16 AM, Jakub Jelinek wrote: Hi! Could you please eyeball http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gcc-exception.html which is supposed to be added to the ATM GPL2+special exception libraries/crtfiles from GCC, it will be very much appreciated. No problems on our end. License tag would be: License: GPLv3+ with exceptions ~spot ___ Fedora-legal-list mailing list Fedora-legal-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legal-list
Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Potential problem with Bitttorrent DHT
Note that, historically, suse has prohibited 'real' p2p in their distro on very, very specious legal grounds. (Basically fear that it is per se illegal even though this isn't true in the US, much less elsewhere.) I assume (but have no specific information) that this is just a variant of that. Luis 2009/3/30 David Nielsen gnomeu...@gmail.com: As is pointed out by upstream for Monsoon, Novell have disallowed DHT implementation from the openSUSE repos based on a legal risk as assessed by openSUSE Legal. The precise nature of the problem is unclear from the initial mail but Alan McGovern says he will provide information to interested parties, as such I would like some input from Fedora Legal if the problem applies to Fedora as well. Relevant information https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492297 http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-gnome/2009-03/msg00048.html Regards, David Nielsen (I am not on the list so please CC me) ___ Fedora-legal-list mailing list Fedora-legal-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legal-list ___ Fedora-legal-list mailing list Fedora-legal-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legal-list
Re: kphotoalbum tips?
On Wednesday 01 April 2009 00:08:48 Ian Malone wrote: 2009/3/27 Anne Wilson an...@kde.org: On Friday 27 March 2009 15:18:04 Ian Malone wrote: Does anyone use kphotoalbum? It seems to do /almost/ exactly what I want in terms of flexible tagging, but the html albums it exports don't look great (both its file|html export and the html export plugin), has anyone had any success customizing it? Thought I'd ask here before disappearing across to their mailing list. If you get information from them, please report back. I'd like to see it included in UserBase. There is some information already at http://userbase.kde.org/KPhotoAlbum Nearly forgot to reply: thanks for this, I didn't know about UserBase at all. The Image::Kimdaba perl module sounds like it might be worth a look and there's mention on that page of a possible export to JAlbum (which is what I used to use and looks fantastic, but just doesn't do photo management). I don't use it myself, but if you tell me exactly what you want to do but can't, I may be able to find out for you the best way to achieve it. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Where are the Fedora 8 binary and source packages
The Fedora 8 binary and source packages seem to have gone from http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/ Have they been moved elsewhere ? I need the sources for some packages to do some mods to some Fedora 8 systems ... Cheers Terry -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where are the Fedora 8 binary and source packages
Terry Barnaby wrote: The Fedora 8 binary and source packages seem to have gone from http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/ Have they been moved elsewhere ? I need the sources for some packages to do some mods to some Fedora 8 systems ... From: http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/8/README ATTENTION == The contents of this directory have been moved to our archives available at: http://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/ If you are having troubles finding something there please stop by #fedora-admin on irc.freenode.net irc://irc.freenode.net So you need to go here: http://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/releases/8/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where are the Fedora 8 binary and source packages
Sharpe, Sam J wrote: Terry Barnaby wrote: The Fedora 8 binary and source packages seem to have gone from http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/ Have they been moved elsewhere ? I need the sources for some packages to do some mods to some Fedora 8 systems ... From: http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/8/README ATTENTION == The contents of this directory have been moved to our archives available at: http://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/ If you are having troubles finding something there please stop by #fedora-admin on irc.freenode.net irc://irc.freenode.net So you need to go here: http://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/releases/8/ Thanks ! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Beta CHECKSUM keyID 0xD22E77F2.
On Tuesday 31 March 2009 19:34:43 Bram_Gro wrote: It could be helpful to others if a reference to this key is added to the Beta release notes page. There's currently a Verify your download link there on the Get Fedora page, don't know if that was recently added. It's easier if you already have a Fedora install with the keys, since there's a sort of chain of continuity that gives a little more confidence, although it presumes you weren't tricked in the first place ;o) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Dolphin - single-/double-click
On Tuesday 31 March 2009 21:32:37 Ian Pilcher wrote: I'm trying to get used to KDE 4.2.1 on Fedora 10. One thing that's driving me nuts is Dolphin's penchant for opening files/folders with a single click. I can't find a configuration setting for this anywhere. First thing I always did with KDE3 was go find the mouse options and choose single click! Much less RSI :o) Help! Thanks! I've been having the opposite problem ... with themes other than Oxygen I'm having to double-click on the folders in the Control P.. uh, System Settings thing. Has anyone else noticed this? Or is it fixed in the week or two since I tried? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: sed substitution that contains forward slash
On Wednesday 01 April 2009 01:11:47 David Burns wrote:
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote:
subtitle...fun with sed
I have a list of changes to make to a file...
dc rc
- ---
15T6145V DELETED
NATL19502 DELETED
Q10MR11/FL12V DELETED
Q1500T3/CL120 DELETED
and things work until I get to the 3rd item which has a forward slash
and it fails to substitute with commands like below...
sed -i s%${dc}%${rc}%g ARsalesorderdetails.csv
and
sed -i s/${dc}/${rc}/g ARsalesorderdetails.csv
The latter producing error on screen...
sed: -e expression #1, char 17: unknown option to `s'
While the former simply doesn't complain but doesn't make the change
either.
Is there a way to coerce sed to identify replace strings with a /
inside?
I don't think it is sed that is giving you a problem:
$ echo Q10MR11/FL12V |sed s|Q10MR11/FL12V|DELETED|
DELETED
He didn't use | he used /. You've inadvertently offered him the solution though.
--
fedora-list mailing list
fedora-list@redhat.com
To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fresh install Fedora 10 X86_64 problems
On Tuesday 31 March 2009 21:39:11 Jim wrote: That doesn't seem to work for what I'm doing. What I'm trying to do is change all directories/files in a /home/user, from one owner/group to another owner/group. When I installed FC10, fresh install and format the / partition and left the /home partition from the old fedora 8 install in place. FC10 for some reason change all the directories/files to another user on box into a /home/user. I know this sounds confusing but the point, /home/molly has the wrong owner/group on her files. I have got to get them back to molly:molly in /home/molly. Thanks again Thanks for your help What you actually need to do is create the user on the new install with the same UID. See the useradd command; run useradd --help to see options. Log in as root, or run as /usr/sbin/useradd. You may have to shuffle the user IDs around to make them all the same, see also the usermod command. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where are the Fedora 8 binary and source packages
On Wednesday 01 April 2009 10:10:51 Sharpe, Sam J wrote: Terry Barnaby wrote: The Fedora 8 binary and source packages seem to have gone from http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/ Have they been moved elsewhere ? I need the sources for some packages to do some mods to some Fedora 8 systems ... From: http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/li nux/releases/8/README ATTENTION == The contents of this directory have been moved to our archives available at: http://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/ If you are having troubles finding something there please stop by #fedora-admin on irc.freenode.net irc://irc.freenode.net So you need to go here: http://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/releases/8/ I notice the older stuff has now disappeared from there. Is anyone keeping the previous releases? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to delete a printer if cups server is down?
Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: I tried deleting /var/cache/cups/remote.cache, but it is always created again, with all the unusable printers in there. ..then those printers aren't coming from where you think they are coming from. Tim. */ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to delete a printer if cups server is down?
2009/4/1 Tim Waugh twa...@redhat.com Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: I tried deleting /var/cache/cups/remote.cache, but it is always created again, with all the unusable printers in there. ..then those printers aren't coming from where you think they are coming from. Tim. */ What I realized is that if the printer is connected to a computer via USB, it goes away. However, if it is a network printer, with its own IP, then it sticks. -- Paulo Roma Cavalcanti LCG - UFRJ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
How to delete a printer if cups server is down?
Hi, how can I delete a printer if its cups server is down? This is specially annoying with laptops, which may have several printers visible in system-config-printer, but none of them will be ever used again. I tried deleting /var/cache/cups/remote.cache, but it is always created again, with all the unusable printers in there. This is a Fedora 10. Thanks. -- Paulo Roma Cavalcanti LCG - UFRJ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: qgtkstyle on qt4
On Wednesday 01 April 2009 08:23:58 David Hláčik wrote: Hello guys, I did installed gtk-nodoka-engine.i386, but still skype ignores gtk looks. It's probably time to figure out how and where qtconfig stores the style setting as if it's doing something as odd as store a path to a .so that implements the style, you might find that it's looking in /usr/lib64 instead of /usr/lib for the style and therefore it won't load in a 32-bit process. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where are the Fedora 8 binary and source packages
2009/4/1 Bill Crawford http://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/releases/8/ I notice the older stuff has now disappeared from there. Is anyone keeping the previous releases? All seems there to me - FC1-6 are under linux/core, not releases. -- Paul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where are the Fedora 8 binary and source packages
On Wednesday 01 April 2009 10:59:28 Paul Black wrote: 2009/4/1 Bill Crawford http://archives.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/releases/8/ I notice the older stuff has now disappeared from there. Is anyone keeping the previous releases? All seems there to me - FC1-6 are under linux/core, not releases. Oh! Oops :o) Thankyou. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F10: running pppd as a regular user
Hello I've installed F10 for my sister that knows nothing about linux, and I 've setup gkrellm to bring up and shutdown ppp0 using an usb dsl modem. Selinux is enabled and I've checked the boolean run pppd as a regular user are these the only steps to get pppd run for a regular user or i've missed something is it safe to run pppd as regular user ? thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Easy Fedora administration... why not?
Hi, I listened to FLOSS Weekly episode 62 [1] and the topic was eBox - please listen [3] to it if you are interested in this topic. AFAIK eBox gives you a is web interface for easy configuration of Ubuntu/Debian boxes, it is like Webmin on crack :) I would really love to see something like this for Fedora based systems... Also I don't see why they need to be based only on Debian/Ubuntu I know that there are differences in RedHat and Debian based distros but if they made all necessary work I guess that it would be simple to implement the differences so that it also works on Fedora and RedHat based systems... So what you think about this project? Would this be beneficial to Fedora? Why? Some more info about eBox: What is eBox? eBox is a server for the easy administration of corporate networks. It covers a wide range of functionality from network gateway to communication center or file management. It has been conceived and developed with simplicity in mind, lowering the learning curve for new network administrators and saving time for experienced professionals. It helps optimizing time for system administrators by automating most of the tasks. Moreover, eBox includes a development framework that allows for the easy adaptation to new unforeseen needs. eBox takes into account that security depends more on user’s actions than on technology itself and thus, its configuration is secure by default. The result is a platform that boosts the productivity of system administrators while keeping a high level of security in corporate networks. [1] http://twit.tv/floss62 [2] http://ebox-platform.com/ [3] http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/twit.cachefly.net/FLOSS-062.mp3 Cheers, Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Web of Trust (a revolution)
m wrote: Difficult at best, who wants to trust a faceless corporation? Not to be cynical but you might trust the receptionist but what about the IT dept? Are they competent? Money is no guarantee of anything, in fact the larger the company the more likely they will let something slip through the cracks. Companies all say they are secure and trustworthy, but who is hiring these people? Are their background checks? Should there be? Probably they outsource that and then you have to see if you can trust that company too. The main problem is that so much gets outsourced so dept head A doesn't have to worry about it but who is checking that this other company is doing it right? Its an endless cycle of paranoia. Exactly. Trusting a corporation boils down to trusting its owners, and owners are those who hold the shares. In case you don't know how ownership of a public company work, google for stock exchange or so. :-) And understand that companies can hold the shares of other companies, too. :-) Anyway. Show me one positive thing PKI has that OpenPGP Web of Trust is missing. From this thread it looks to me that few of us are aware of trust signature level notion. See GnuPG manual (tsign) or here: http://www.google.com/search?hl=plq=gpg+tsign+site%3Awww.gnupg.orgbtnG=Szukajlr= . It looks to me that using trust signature levels (not just 2 or 3, like in X.509, but 10+) one can build his own key hierarchy. Here is an example: http://www.gswot.org/ . Also Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_trust) states that there are sites allowing you to find OpenPGP Web of Trust members near you (geographically), so that you could meet in person and sign each other's key. Sure, you might not be sure how honest a particular person is, or how accurate she is when it comes to key signing. But it *might* be helpful to know that a key of someone else that you haven't met in person has been signed by, say, 10 different people that you did meet before (see http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual.html#AEN385). So. Summarizing all this I would say that OpenPGP Web of Trust is (much) more flexible than PKI, and when it comes to implementation, it looks that with OpenPGP you are the one to decide whom to trust (http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual.html#AEN385) (which is not the case with PKI, where a single certificate chain is sufficient for the trust to be assigned locally). The revolution strategy will follow in my reply to Todd Zullinger's post (03/31/2009 01:10 AM). STF === http://eisenbits.homelinux.net/~stf/ OpenPGP: 9D25 3D89 75F1 DF1D F434 25D7 E87F A1B9 B80F 8062 === signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fresh install Fedora 10 X86_64 problems
Jim wrote: Jeff Voskamp wrote: Jim wrote: Jeff Voskamp wrote: cd /home for x in *; do chown -R $x:$x $x done That doesn't seem to work for what I'm doing. What I'm trying to do is change all directories/files in a /home/user, from one owner/group to another owner/group. When I installed FC10, fresh install and format the / partition and left the /home partition from the old fedora 8 install in place. FC10 for some reason change all the directories/files to another user on box into a /home/user. I know this sounds confusing but the point, /home/molly has the wrong owner/group on her files. I have got to get them back to molly:molly in /home/molly. Thanks again Thanks for your help You saved /home on the re-install and re-created all the accounts and now they don't line up? The above script will change /home/joe (and subdirectories) to be user joe and group joe, /home/fred to user fred and group fred, etc. If you haven't re-created the accounts yet then that's a different problem. Jeff Are you saying ? chown -R molly:molly $x , what is the $x suppose to represent ? The x comes from the second line - the * matches all folders and files. It's a four line script. Cut and paste to a shell. Or in two lines: cd /home for x in *; do chown -R $x:$x $x ;done Jeff -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Bouts of Extreme System Slug
Hello, All, I am running F10 on a Dell Latitude D820 laptop, about two years old, with 2GB memory and Centrino Due processors. Since a few weeks, my laptop is suffering from bouts of sluggishness, typically lasting for maybe a minute to a few minutes, and I have a feeling, it is progressively getting worse. During these phases, everything is running slow and GUI response is delayed for seconds or longer. According to the system monitor, both processors are busy (up to almost hundred percent); memory usage is well below one half and no swap space is used, and network traffic is low, too. The more applications I am running, the more noticeable these phases of sluggishness become, although I am not sure whether this cuases them or whether it just makes them more noticeable. In any case, when I open more or more intensive applications, the onset of sluggishness usually takes minutes, and persists minutes after applications are closed again. How can I diagnose what causes the sluggishness? I considered running fsck or badblocks, but these can only be used on unmounted file systems, and I find that even if I boot single user mode, the root file system is mounted and can not be unmounted (says it's busy). I also experience some other problems, such as occasional crashes of Firefox and OpenJDK. I am connected to the Internet via DHCP. When I go to some places (including Stata Center, MIT) and connect to the network (wired or wireless) there, my laptop freezes entirely in irregular intervals (can be minutes or hours) and does not recover. Thanks for the help! Take care Oliver -- Oliver Ruebenacker, Computational Cell Biologist BioPAX Integration at Virtual Cell (http://vcell.org/biopax) Center for Cell Analysis and Modeling http://www.oliver.curiousworld.org -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Web of Trust (a revolution)
Todd Zullinger wrote: $ gpg --list-options 'show-policy-urls' --list-sigs silfreed pub 1024D/ED00D312 2000-06-21 uid Douglas E. Warner silfr...@... sig 3ED00D312 2005-11-02 Douglas E. Warner silfr...@... sig 2 PBEAF0CE3 2006-08-07 Todd M. Zullinger t...@... Signature policy: http://www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp/cert-policy.asc [...] I don't intend for that to make anyone trust my signatures unless they know a bit about me, of course. But I do try to be a good example and let those who may trust me know just what I mean when they see a signature from me on a key. Both notations and cert policy URLS may contain some data that is unique to a particular signature. Strings such as %k, %K, and %f will be expanded to the short key id, long key id, and fingerprint of the key being signed, respectively. That way, you could make the notation or policy URL point to a page for each signature. There you could include such details as where you met, what information you exchanged, etc. Great done, I am impressed, I wasn't even aware that such things exist! So, summarizing all this (see my the previous post from today) I'd say that what we need is: * an OpenPGP web of trust CA (operated by RedHat/Fedora/whatever, sorry I'm not really aware of who is who here) with its public/private keypair (CAK) * an official and strictly-followed policy for signing people keys with CAK (trust level 0 sigs) * an official and strictly-followed policy for signing people keys with CAK (trust level 1 sigs) * a marketing strategy or something to tell people to trust CAK with the level of 2 * some goodies like list of keys signed by CAK published on the web, or maybe photos of all such meetings in person (depending on the policy); surely photos, names and bios of all trust-level-1 sigs holders. :-) This way we achieve the goals of the revolution; we promote: * GNU * free software * security and authenticity * bazaar model * Fedora * OpenPGP web of trust, which is better than PKI. STF === http://eisenbits.homelinux.net/~stf/ OpenPGP: 9D25 3D89 75F1 DF1D F434 25D7 E87F A1B9 B80F 8062 === signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Kernel-firmware package and Anaconda.
Hi, For those (like me) who wish to avoid proprietary firmware, they have been moved since Fedora 10 into a single package called kernel-firmware. Can I uncheck this kernel-firmware package during the custom installation process within Anaconda, or is this done otherwise? --- Is a custom install to have minimalised installation, only possible to preform with a 4x.GB DVD release, or is this option also available in the live CDs/USBs? Bram. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Easy Fedora administration... why not?
On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:35:59 +0200 Valent Turkovic wrote: AFAIK eBox gives you a is web interface for easy configuration of Ubuntu/Debian boxes, it is like Webmin on crack :) My impression of every easy linux admin interface I've ever seen it that it requires millions of man hours to create a useful interface which will be used by newbies 3 or 4 times till they learn it takes 10 times longer to bring up the fancy interface than it does to just use vi to edit the dadgum /etc/resolv.conf file (or whatever file is involved :-). Then the linux developers, terrified that someone might have learned how to administer a system decide they need to rip everything apart and utterly change it - changes which are never reflected in the easy admin interface (things like network - NetworkManager, xorg.conf - weird /etc/fdi files for hal, etc). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Bouts of Extreme System Slug
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Oliver Ruebenacker cur...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, All, I am running F10 on a Dell Latitude D820 laptop, about two years old, with 2GB memory and Centrino Due processors. Since a few weeks, my laptop is suffering from bouts of sluggishness, typically lasting for maybe a minute to a few minutes, and I have a feeling, it is progressively getting worse. During these phases, everything is running slow and GUI response is delayed for seconds or longer. According to the system monitor, both processors are busy (up to almost hundred percent); memory usage is well below one half and no swap space is used, and network traffic is low, too. The more applications I am running, the more noticeable these phases of sluggishness become, although I am not sure whether this cuases them or whether it just makes them more noticeable. In any case, when I open more or more intensive applications, the onset of sluggishness usually takes minutes, and persists minutes after applications are closed again. How can I diagnose what causes the sluggishness? I considered running fsck or badblocks, but these can only be used on unmounted file systems, and I find that even if I boot single user mode, the root file system is mounted and can not be unmounted (says it's busy). I also experience some other problems, such as occasional crashes of Firefox and OpenJDK. I am connected to the Internet via DHCP. When I go to some places (including Stata Center, MIT) and connect to the network (wired or wireless) there, my laptop freezes entirely in irregular intervals (can be minutes or hours) and does not recover. Thanks for the help! Take care Oliver -- Oliver Ruebenacker, Computational Cell Biologist BioPAX Integration at Virtual Cell (http://vcell.org/biopax) Center for Cell Analysis and Modeling http://www.oliver.curiousworld.org Use the Dell Diag/Utility disk that came with the system, and do a hard drive scan from that. It will tell you if there is bad sectors on the drive. If it is still under warranty then dell will replace your drive. You should also be able to look at the system logs and see if SMART is throwing any errors when it is trying to read or write to the drive. -- Terry Snyder Jr. Computer Support Specialist http://www.remotewebs.com Making your computer experience safe and secure. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Beta CHECKSUM keyID 0xD22E77F2.
Bill Crawford wrote: On Tuesday 31 March 2009 19:34:43 Bram_Gro wrote: There's currently a Verify your download link there on the Get Fedora page, don't know if that was recently added. It's easier if you already have a Fedora install with the keys, since there's a sort of chain of continuity that gives a little more confidence, although it presumes you weren't tricked in the first place ;o) I have requested to the webmasters if they will add the key to one of these links. RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-test-11-primary keyID: 0xD22E77F2 fingerprint: AEE4 0C04 E345 60A7 1F04 3D7C 1DC5 C758 D22E 77F2 To, https://fedoraproject.org/keys https://fedoraproject.org/static/fedora.gpg https://fedoraproject.org/en/verify Bram. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: qgtkstyle on qt4
Hello, how could I check that? Best Regards, David Hlacik 2009/4/1 Bill Crawford billcrawford1...@gmail.com: On Wednesday 01 April 2009 08:23:58 David Hláčik wrote: Hello guys, I did installed gtk-nodoka-engine.i386, but still skype ignores gtk looks. It's probably time to figure out how and where qtconfig stores the style setting as if it's doing something as odd as store a path to a .so that implements the style, you might find that it's looking in /usr/lib64 instead of /usr/lib for the style and therefore it won't load in a 32-bit process. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Yum issues..
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:21 AM, dco...@efn.org wrote: Does Yum also update the old baseurl's in /etc/yum.repos.d when you get the first new one to work? My Yum keeps looking for core 5. http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/5/i386 /os/FC10/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 01:26:15 GMT Can someone send a recent baseurl for use? in /etc/yum.repos.d, Here's what's listed... ]# ls adobe-linux-i386.repo fedora-rawhide.repo fedora-updates-testing.repo dries.repofedora.repo freshrpms.repo fedora-core.repo.rpmsave fedora-updates.repo macromedia.repo I will send you any of their contents if needed...or build something anew? Yum wants to point to dries so I copied this one found here on the list.. ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/10/Fe dora /i386/os/Packages/fedora-release-*noarch.rpm copied this one to a repos.d file http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/10/i386/ FC10/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:39:51 GMT or Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: dries failure: repodata/repomd.xml from dries: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try. Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: dries repomd.xml broken? [r...@boatbuyer yum.repos.d]# yum update Options Error: Error parsing 'baseurl': URL must be http, ftp, file or https not su -c yum --disablerepo=* install libX11-1.1.5-2.fc10.i386.rpm libX11-devel-1.1.5-2.fc10.i386.rpm su: unrecognized option `--disablerepo=* # yum --disablerepo=* install ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/10/Fed ora/i386/os/Packages/fedora-release-*noarch.rpmLoading installonlyn plugin Setting up Install Process Setting up repositories No Repositories Available to Set Up Reading repository metadata in from local files Parsing package install arguments No Match for argument: ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/10/Fed ora/i386/os/Packages/fedora-release-*noarch.rpm Nothing to do I'm copying examples, don't know what I'm doing and not getting anywhere..need some..yelp. ? David.. 1. Don't use yum to install the package. Try using rpm -Uvh ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/10/Fedor a/i386/os/Packages/fedora-release-10.1.noarch.rpm Have been trying various commands, this one is from an example here on the list.. [r...@boatbuyer etc]# rpm -Uhv ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/10/Fedora/i386/os/Packages/fedora-release-*noarch.rpm Retrieving ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/10/Fedora/i386/os/Packages/fedora-release-10-1.noarch.rpm Retrieving ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/10/Fedora/i386/os/Packages/fedora-release-notes-10.0.0-1.noarch.rpm warning: /var/tmp/rpm-xfer.q97BGx: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 4ebfc273 Preparing... ### [100%] package fedora-release-notes-10.0.0-1 is already installed package fedora-release-10-1 is already installed And your suggestion.. [r...@boatbuyer etc]# rpm -Uvh ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/10/Fedora/i386/os/Packages/fedora-release-10.1.noarch.rpm Retrieving ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/10/Fedora/i386/os/Packages/fedora-release-10.1.noarch.rpm error: skipping ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/10/Fedora/i386/os/Packages/fedora-release-10.1.noarch.rpm - transfer failed - Unknown or unexpected error Also put baseurl's into /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo enable=1 Is this where Yum looks? Because they don't seem to match? 2. Using yum to upgrade versions that far a part is not recommended. You are better off upgrading via a network install or using a CD/DVD. However, if you go this route verify that all the .repo files point to F10 repositories, upgrade yum before installing any other F10 packages. 1. My larger problem is that named, messagebus and nfs [FAILED] or don't work correctly? 2. There are many broken links, most of them within /etc? Should I delete them? Start over? 3. Unable to do ISO; DVD and USB are no longer readable in 'gui'? Not network connected. OR Can I use any of these recently downloaded files? kernel-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.src.rpm rpmfusion-free-stable.noarch.rpm xine-lib-extras-freeworld-1.1.16.2-1.fc10.i386.rpm Would like to update by Yum but perhaps other options are available? Is is possible to build and implement kernel 10 overwriting the broken links and getting services working again? simple? Reluctant to shut down the machine...can someone help?? Thanks, David.. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines:
serious virtualization without HW support?
i'm reading the section on CPU virtualization extensions here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Virtualization_Quick_Start and it occurs to me to ask whether anyone would want to get *seriously* into virtualization without having machines with those extensions. is it safe to say that, by now, most modern systems come with VT or AMD-V support? and by serious virtualization, i don't mean someone downloading and goofing around with it, i mean people who want to set up virtual corporate servers or mission-critical stuff. thoughts? rday -- Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry: Have classroom, will lecture. http://crashcourse.ca Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: serious virtualization without HW support?
Robert P. J. Day wrote: and it occurs to me to ask whether anyone would want to get *seriously* into virtualization without having machines with those extensions. No. is it safe to say that, by now, most modern systems come with VT or AMD-V support? and by serious virtualization, i don't mean someone downloading and goofing around with it, i mean people who want to set up virtual corporate servers or mission-critical stuff. I run Windows as a guest OS on several machines. With the Intel vmx flag, performance is extremely good and quite usable. Without the vmx flag, it is useless. It is too slow to tolerate. Most new machines now have the virtualization flags. It's always worth checking before you buy, though. - Mike -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Bouts of Extreme System Slug
On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 08:04 -0400, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: I am running F10 on a Dell Latitude D820 laptop, about two years old, with 2GB memory and Centrino Due processors. Since a few weeks, my laptop is suffering from bouts of sluggishness, typically lasting for maybe a minute to a few minutes, and I have a feeling, it is progressively getting worse. During these phases, everything is running slow and GUI response is delayed for seconds or longer. According to the system monitor, both processors are busy (up to almost hundred percent); memory usage is well below one half and no swap space is used, and network traffic is low, too. Is the CPU cooling still working fine? Overheating can cause slowdowns. I've noticed my laptop has always been hotter running Fedora 9 than it was with 7, even when apparently idle. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.19-78.2.30.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Web of Trust (a revolution)
On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 13:42 +0200, Stanisław T. Findeisen wrote: Sure, you might not be sure how honest a particular person is, or how accurate she is when it comes to key signing. But it *might* be helpful to know that a key of someone else that you haven't met in person has been signed by, say, 10 different people that you did meet before You need to know them more than just having met them before, you need to know what their attitude is to signing keys. Will they only sign keys with users that have credible ID? And could they spot fake ID? -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.19-78.2.30.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
howto enable automatic updates without gui
How can I enable automatic updates on a F10 box without having a desktop login (that is, I have ssh access)? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Easy Fedora administration... why not?
My impression of every easy linux admin interface I've ever seen it that it requires millions of man hours to create a useful interface which will be used by newbies 3 or 4 times till they learn it takes 10 times longer to bring up the fancy interface than it does to just use vi to edit the dadgum /etc/resolv.conf file (or whatever file is involved :-). Then the linux developers, terrified that someone might have learned how to administer a system decide they need to rip everything apart and utterly change it - changes which are never reflected in the easy admin interface (things like network - NetworkManager, xorg.conf - weird /etc/fdi files for hal, etc). Speaking like a true admin ;) From my point of view as advanced-user-and-admin-of-my-own-machines this looks like a really nice project... at least for setting up some services and getting them working fast and then learning how they work by looking at config files. I know, I know that should be reversed... but there is nothing more rewarding and further stimulation for learning than when something JustWorkstm. If I try something and fail misserably I tend to put it down - and usually don't pick it up again. But if something JustWorkstm I get positive stimulus to continue hacking on it ;) Just my 2c. ps. Still this could be really usefull tool even for real admins that know how to thinks by hand but have hundreds of boxes on which then need to change one simple thing... this would same them lots of time... -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to delete a printer if cups server is down?
On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 07:14 -0300, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: 2009/4/1 Tim Waugh twa...@redhat.com Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: I tried deleting /var/cache/cups/remote.cache, but it is always created again, with all the unusable printers in there. ..then those printers aren't coming from where you think they are coming from. Tim. */ What I realized is that if the printer is connected to a computer via USB, it goes away. However, if it is a network printer, with its own IP, then it sticks. I suspect what you say is true since network printers would be picked up through cups browsing from the printer server. -- === Congratulations are in order for Tom Reid. He says he just found out he is the winner of the 2021 Psychic of the Year award. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: howto enable automatic updates without gui
Neal Becker wrote: How can I enable automatic updates on a F10 box without having a desktop login (that is, I have ssh access)? One way: put yum -y upgrade in crontab. - Mike -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: serious virtualization without HW support?
On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: Robert P. J. Day wrote: and it occurs to me to ask whether anyone would want to get *seriously* into virtualization without having machines with those extensions. No. i thought as much. i asked only because i've had a couple people ask me whether they could set up a couple virtual web servers on some older systems that were just hanging around, doing not much of anything. and they really didn't want to shell out any more $$$ for newer systems with the virt extensions. i suggested it really wasn't worth trying to save money like that. I run Windows as a guest OS on several machines. With the Intel vmx flag, performance is extremely good and quite usable. Without the vmx flag, it is useless. It is too slow to tolerate. Most new machines now have the virtualization flags. It's always worth checking before you buy, though. i do recall reading somewhere that, yes, you have to be careful to check that the system not only has the virt extension but that it's *turned on*. i can't recall where i read that, does anyone have a URL? something about selling a system cheaper because you've simply disabled the extension, but advertising it as if it *does* have it. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry: Have classroom, will lecture. http://crashcourse.ca Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: howto enable automatic updates without gui
Neal Becker wrote: How can I enable automatic updates on a F10 box without having a desktop login (that is, I have ssh access)? You can put an executable file in /etc/cron.daily with: #!/bin/bash /usr/bin/yum -y update yum /usr/bin/yum -y update Mogens -- Mogens Kjaer, Carlsberg A/S, Computer Department Gamle Carlsberg Vej 10, DK-2500 Valby, Denmark Phone: +45 33 27 53 25, Mobile: +45 22 12 53 25 Email: m...@crc.dk Homepage: http://www.crc.dk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: howto enable automatic updates without gui
On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 08:58 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: How can I enable automatic updates on a F10 box without having a desktop login (that is, I have ssh access)? yum install yum-cron Not sure what the options are, though Jonathan signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: howto enable automatic updates without gui
On Wed, 1 Apr 2009, Neal Becker wrote: How can I enable automatic updates on a F10 box without having a desktop login (that is, I have ssh access)? yum install yum-updatesd Then modify /etc/yum/yum-updatesd.conf to taste. Regards, -- Tom Diehl tdi...@rogueind.com Spamtrap address mtd...@rogueind.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Web of Trust (a revolution)
On 4/1/2009 8:56 AM, Tim wrote: On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 13:42 +0200, Stanisław T. Findeisen wrote: Sure, you might not be sure how honest a particular person is, or how accurate she is when it comes to key signing. But it *might* be helpful to know that a key of someone else that you haven't met in person has been signed by, say, 10 different people that you did meet before You need to know them more than just having met them before, you need to know what their attitude is to signing keys. Will they only sign keys with users that have credible ID? And could they spot fake ID? I use a state issued picture driver license, a birth certificate, and a US Passport. -- David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: serious virtualization without HW support?
Robert P. J. Day wrote: Most new machines now have the virtualization flags. It's always worth checking before you buy, though. i do recall reading somewhere that, yes, you have to be careful to check that the system not only has the virt extension but that it's *turned on*. i can't recall where i read that, does anyone have a URL? something about selling a system cheaper because you've simply disabled the extension, but advertising it as if it *does* have it. On my HP/Intel machines you have to enable the virtualization feature in the BIOS. It is off by default, and the option is oddly buried in a Security menu. - Mike -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: qgtkstyle on qt4
On Wednesday 01 April 2009 13:31:33 David Hláčik wrote: Hello, how could I check that? Best Regards, David Hlacik 2009/4/1 Bill Crawford billcrawford1...@gmail.com: On Wednesday 01 April 2009 08:23:58 David Hláčik wrote: Hello guys, I did installed gtk-nodoka-engine.i386, but still skype ignores gtk looks. It's probably time to figure out how and where qtconfig stores the style setting as if it's doing something as odd as store a path to a .so that implements the style, you might find that it's looking in /usr/lib64 instead of /usr/lib for the style and therefore it won't load in a 32-bit process. Well, with qt3 you'd be looking at .qt/qtrc etc, which has a libraryPath setting, this is why I'm wondering if the problem is indeed that qt is looking in 64 bit libs for a plugin to render the style. Have a look in your home directory for a .qt directory. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to delete a printer if cups server is down?
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.netwrote: On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 07:14 -0300, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: 2009/4/1 Tim Waugh twa...@redhat.com Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: I tried deleting /var/cache/cups/remote.cache, but it is always created again, with all the unusable printers in there. ..then those printers aren't coming from where you think they are coming from. Tim. */ What I realized is that if the printer is connected to a computer via USB, it goes away. However, if it is a network printer, with its own IP, then it sticks. I suspect what you say is true since network printers would be picked up through cups browsing from the printer server. The solution is really to delete /var/cache/cups/remote.cache but the cups process has to be stopped, first. Otherwise, the same cache is recreated if cups is just restarted. This cache contains all of the network printers. Therefore, the solution is: 1) stop cups 2) delete cache 3) start cups Finally, I got rid of all these ghost printers... -- Paulo Roma Cavalcanti LCG - UFRJ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: serious virtualization without HW support?
On Wednesday 01 April 2009 13:39:36 Robert P. J. Day wrote: i'm reading the section on CPU virtualization extensions here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Virtualization_Quick_Start and it occurs to me to ask whether anyone would want to get *seriously* into virtualization without having machines with those extensions. is it safe to say that, by now, most modern systems come with VT or AMD-V support? and by serious virtualization, i don't mean someone downloading and goofing around with it, i mean people who want to set up virtual corporate servers or mission-critical stuff. thoughts? I think there are quite a few businesses still using Xen and related stuff (like the vserver containers) to run real live applications, although where I work that was mostly done to consolidate development and testing platforms. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Yum issues..
On Wednesday 01 April 2009 13:39:44 dco...@efn.org wrote: [r...@boatbuyer etc]# rpm -Uvh ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/10/Fedora/i386/o s/Packages/fedora-release-10.1.noarch.rpm Retrieving ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/10/Fedora/i386/o s/Packages/fedora-release-10.1.noarch.rpm error: skipping ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/10/Fedora/i386/o s/Packages/fedora-release-10.1.noarch.rpm - transfer failed - Unknown or unexpected error Typo in the package name, it's fedora-release-10.92-1.noarch -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: serious virtualization without HW support?
On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 08:39:36 -0400 (EDT) Robert P. J. Day wrote: and it occurs to me to ask whether anyone would want to get *seriously* into virtualization without having machines with those extensions. Depends - the Xen style paravirt stuff works well (for some definition of well) without hardware support. is it safe to say that, by now, most modern systems come with VT or AMD-V support? and by serious virtualization, i don't mean someone downloading and goofing around with it, i mean people who want to set up virtual corporate servers or mission-critical stuff. My current experience with using virtual machines for testing tools such as debuggers that interact with the system at a low level leads me to suspect that mission-critical stuff should stay as far away as possible from virtual servers :-). If I look at summaries of test failures, there are some tests which consistently fail on virtual machines, yet never fail on real hardware. I have very deep suspicions about virtual machine reliability. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Web of Trust (a revolution)
I use a state issued picture driver license, a birth certificate, and a US Passport. Which doesn't prove you are not one of identical twins ;) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Bouts of Extreme System Slug
Hello Terry, All, 2009/4/1 Terry Snyder tes...@psu.edu: On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Oliver Ruebenacker cur...@gmail.com wrote: How can I diagnose what causes the sluggishness? Use the Dell Diag/Utility disk that came with the system, and do a hard drive scan from that. It will tell you if there is bad sectors on the drive. If it is still under warranty then dell will replace your drive. I got the laptop from my employer, not sure if I ever got such a disk. I'll ask there. You should also be able to look at the system logs and see if SMART is throwing any errors when it is trying to read or write to the drive. You mean grep smart /var/log/messages? Seems only to show startup and shutdown entries. Thanks! Take care Oliver -- Oliver Ruebenacker, Computational Cell Biologist BioPAX Integration at Virtual Cell (http://vcell.org/biopax) Center for Cell Analysis and Modeling http://www.oliver.curiousworld.org -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Bouts of Extreme System Slug
Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: Hello, All, I am running F10 on a Dell Latitude D820 laptop, about two years old, with 2GB memory and Centrino Due processors. Since a few weeks, my laptop is suffering from bouts of sluggishness, typically lasting for maybe a minute to a few minutes, and I have a feeling, it is progressively getting worse. During these phases, everything is running slow and GUI response is delayed for seconds or longer. According to the system monitor, both processors are busy (up to almost hundred percent); memory usage is well below one half and no swap space is used, and network traffic is low, too. The more applications I am running, the more noticeable these phases of sluggishness become, although I am not sure whether this cuases them or whether it just makes them more noticeable. In any case, when I open more or more intensive applications, the onset of sluggishness usually takes minutes, and persists minutes after applications are closed again. How can I diagnose what causes the sluggishness? I considered running fsck or badblocks, but these can only be used on unmounted file systems, and I find that even if I boot single user mode, the root file system is mounted and can not be unmounted (says it's busy). I also experience some other problems, such as occasional crashes of Firefox and OpenJDK. I am connected to the Internet via DHCP. When I go to some places (including Stata Center, MIT) and connect to the network (wired or wireless) there, my laptop freezes entirely in irregular intervals (can be minutes or hours) and does not recover. Thanks for the help! Take care Oliver Sounds like a hardware problem. Get zapped by a storm lately? Check the CPU temp in the BIOS. Check the system logs for errors, make sure you are allowing adequate ventilation, check to make sure the exhaust vents aren't choked with dust or cat hair. A hard drive test would be advisable, Hitachi has one you can download and burn making a bootable cd. Memtest would also be a good idea, run it overnight at least. -- Any fool can know. The point is to understand --Albert Einstein Bored?? http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Fuqwit1.0 http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Coding_the_Magic_into_the_Eight_Ball -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: When I send email to fedora-users list, I get emails replies from @naver.com
Ed Greshko wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Does anyone have this problem? It seems that my email messages are somehow being intercepted from this @naver.com site. Looks like a Korean or Chinese site but I am not sure what it is. It is Korean Maybe you can post one of the replies and it can be determined what is going on? A guess... Someone with an @naver.com email address is subscribed to the list and since you have Reply-To set you are getting their vacation messageor some such thing. I'm never a fan of test messages...but why not reply to this with your Reply-To deleted and see if it makes a difference. Ok, thanks for the tip! Welcome (This is actually a test toowonder if I will get the naver email...) And, it has been verified An email from naver-mai...@naver.com is queued to come herebut it didn't arrive in my inbox yet since I have grey listingnot sure if it will ever make it due to my spam rules... We'll see What do you mean by testing? What exactly are you testing? Sending me email or via fedora-users, or directly to naver.com? What is this test you are doing, so that I can understand what the mechanism is? Thanks! Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Bouts of Extreme System Slug
Hello Tim, All, On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Is the CPU cooling still working fine? Overheating can cause slowdowns. Interesting! How can I test this? Do you know what mechanism causes the slowdown? Is it consistent with showing high CPU usage? I've noticed my laptop has always been hotter running Fedora 9 than it was with 7, even when apparently idle. Actually, I also felt sometimes that my laptop was quite hot, long before I had slowdown issues. And sometimes the fan would seem to gear up, even with no one using the laptop. Thanks! Take care Oliver -- Oliver Ruebenacker, Computational Cell Biologist BioPAX Integration at Virtual Cell (http://vcell.org/biopax) Center for Cell Analysis and Modeling http://www.oliver.curiousworld.org -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Web of Trust (a revolution)
On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 14:49 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: I use a state issued picture driver license, a birth certificate, and a US Passport. Which doesn't prove you are not one of identical twins ;) which is an important distinction if you happen to be the paranoid schizophrenic twin... http://www.amazon.com/Know-This-Much-True-Novel/dp/0061469084/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1 Great book Craig ps - then again, the fingerprints would likely be identical -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: When I send email to fedora-users list, I get emails replies from @naver.com
Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Does anyone have this problem? It seems that my email messages are somehow being intercepted from this @naver.com site. Looks like a Korean or Chinese site but I am not sure what it is. It is Korean Maybe you can post one of the replies and it can be determined what is going on? A guess... Someone with an @naver.com email address is subscribed to the list and since you have Reply-To set you are getting their vacation messageor some such thing. I'm never a fan of test messages...but why not reply to this with your Reply-To deleted and see if it makes a difference. Ok, thanks for the tip! Welcome (This is actually a test toowonder if I will get the naver email...) And, it has been verified An email from naver-mai...@naver.com is queued to come herebut it didn't arrive in my inbox yet since I have grey listingnot sure if it will ever make it due to my spam rules... We'll see What do you mean by testing? What exactly are you testing? Sending me email or via fedora-users, or directly to naver.com? What is this test you are doing, so that I can understand what the mechanism is? Oh If you look at the message that I sent to the list at Wed, 01 Apr 2009 09:26:34 +0800 you will see that I added a Reply-To: of ed.gres...@greshko.com. When I did that I go an email back from the mail system at naver.com telling me that chl0...@naver.com no longer can receive emails. So, I am just confirming that since you have a Reply-To set in your Tbird configuration you will get these messages. Now, the bad part is that chl0...@naver.com cannot receive any messages so nobody can ask them nicely to unsubscribe. Soeither remove the Reply-To: (which isn't necessary since it is the same as your From) or ask the nice fedora list maintainers to remove that email from the subscribed list. -- The day advanced as if to light some work of mine; it was morning, and lo! now it is evening, and nothing memorable is accomplished. -- H.D. Thoreau mei-mei.gres...@greshko.com http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=cCSz_koUhSg signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Web of Trust (a revolution)
Craig White wrote: On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 14:49 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: I use a state issued picture driver license, a birth certificate, and a US Passport. Which doesn't prove you are not one of identical twins ;) which is an important distinction if you happen to be the paranoid schizophrenic twin... http://www.amazon.com/Know-This-Much-True-Novel/dp/0061469084/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1 Great book Craig ps - then again, the fingerprints would likely be identical According to the info I have found, twins of any sort will not have identical fingerprints, though their DNA might be virtually indistinguishable if they are identical twins. -- Any fool can know. The point is to understand --Albert Einstein Bored?? http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Fuqwit1.0 http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Coding_the_Magic_into_the_Eight_Ball -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: When I send email to fedora-users list, I get emails replies from @naver.com
Ed Greshko wrote: Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Does anyone have this problem? It seems that my email messages are somehow being intercepted from this @naver.com site. Looks like a Korean or Chinese site but I am not sure what it is. It is Korean Maybe you can post one of the replies and it can be determined what is going on? A guess... Someone with an @naver.com email address is subscribed to the list and since you have Reply-To set you are getting their vacation messageor some such thing. I'm never a fan of test messages...but why not reply to this with your Reply-To deleted and see if it makes a difference. Ok, thanks for the tip! Welcome (This is actually a test toowonder if I will get the naver email...) And, it has been verified An email from naver-mai...@naver.com is queued to come herebut it didn't arrive in my inbox yet since I have grey listingnot sure if it will ever make it due to my spam rules... We'll see What do you mean by testing? What exactly are you testing? Sending me email or via fedora-users, or directly to naver.com? What is this test you are doing, so that I can understand what the mechanism is? Oh If you look at the message that I sent to the list at Wed, 01 Apr 2009 09:26:34 +0800 you will see that I added a Reply-To: of ed.gres...@greshko.com. When I did that I go an email back from the mail system at naver.com telling me that chl0...@naver.com no longer can receive emails. So, I am just confirming that since you have a Reply-To set in your Tbird configuration you will get these messages. Now, the bad part is that chl0...@naver.com cannot receive any messages so nobody can ask them nicely to unsubscribe. Soeither remove the Reply-To: (which isn't necessary since it is the same as your From) or ask the nice fedora list maintainers to remove that email from the subscribed list. Ok! Thanks for the details, it's clear to me now! I will remove my Reply-To: field and also request send a request to remove @naver.com email from the mailing list! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Web of Trust (a revolution)
On Wednesday 01 April 2009 14:18:11 David wrote: On 4/1/2009 8:56 AM, Tim wrote: On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 13:42 +0200, Stanisław T. Findeisen wrote: Sure, you might not be sure how honest a particular person is, or how accurate she is when it comes to key signing. But it *might* be helpful to know that a key of someone else that you haven't met in person has been signed by, say, 10 different people that you did meet before You need to know them more than just having met them before, you need to know what their attitude is to signing keys. Will they only sign keys with users that have credible ID? And could they spot fake ID? I use a state issued picture driver license, a birth certificate, and a US Passport. It is generally accepted that meeing someone, alone, is not sufficient identification. Before you sign anyone's key, or let them sign yours, you should always see this kind of official documentation. Anyone considering getting keys signed should read http://cryptnet.net/fdp/crypto/keysigning_party/en/keysigning_party.html Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Web of Trust (a revolution)
On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 10:37 -0400, m wrote: ps - then again, the fingerprints would likely be identical According to the info I have found, twins of any sort will not have identical fingerprints, though their DNA might be virtually indistinguishable if they are identical twins. I appreciate the opportunity to demonstrate how little I know about identical twins... ;-) Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Web of Trust (a revolution)
Craig White wrote: On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 10:37 -0400, m wrote: ps - then again, the fingerprints would likely be identical According to the info I have found, twins of any sort will not have identical fingerprints, though their DNA might be virtually indistinguishable if they are identical twins. I appreciate the opportunity to demonstrate how little I know about identical twins... ;-) Craig I appreciate your subtlety in reminding me to look that up because that particular mental post-it had been covered up long ago. Maybe I should write down on physical paper the things I need to look up...nah mental post-it notes are more fun, which reminds me... -- Any fool can know. The point is to understand --Albert Einstein Bored?? http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Fuqwit1.0 http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Coding_the_Magic_into_the_Eight_Ball -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fresh install Fedora 10 X86_64 problems
Tim wrote: On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 19:46 -0400, Jim wrote: How would i write down sequence of each USER, so this won't happen next time I upgrade this Box ?? ls -n /home See the user and group numbers instead of names? Use the same numbers when creating new users. You can manually pick numbers when you create new users, or if the IDs all go upwards sequentially from 500, simply create the first user who has ID 500, then create the next user and they'll get the next highest number, you just have to pick the names in the right sequence. Right now the first number doesn't start at 500, it starts at 502. How do you manully put the numbers in as you add users:groups ? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fresh install Fedora 10 X86_64 problems
Jim wrote: Tim wrote: On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 19:46 -0400, Jim wrote: How would i write down sequence of each USER, so this won't happen next time I upgrade this Box ?? ls -n /home See the user and group numbers instead of names? Use the same numbers when creating new users. You can manually pick numbers when you create new users, or if the IDs all go upwards sequentially from 500, simply create the first user who has ID 500, then create the next user and they'll get the next highest number, you just have to pick the names in the right sequence. Right now the first number doesn't start at 500, it starts at 502. How do you manully put the numbers in as you add users:groups ? man useradd , its the -u option as I recall. or you can specify it in the GUI for Users and Groups. -- Any fool can know. The point is to understand --Albert Einstein Bored?? http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Fuqwit1.0 http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Coding_the_Magic_into_the_Eight_Ball -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Web of Trust (a revolution)
Tim: You need to know them more than just having met them before, you need to know what their attitude is to signing keys. Will they only sign keys with users that have credible ID? And could they spot fake ID? David: I use a state issued picture driver license, a birth certificate, and a US Passport. Do you mean to identify yourself, and/or you insist on that before you'll sign someone else's key? But to be brutal, a birth certificate proves nothing, any thief could have stolen one. And which of us could pick a good faked driver's license or passport from a real one? Or would know whether someone's fraudulently obtained real ones? -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.19-78.2.30.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
