Re: Yum issues..
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 4:39 AM, wrote: > > >> >> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:21 AM, wrote: >> >>> >>> Does Yum also update the old baseurl's in /etc/yum.repos.d when >>> you get the first new one to work? >>> >>> My Yum keeps looking for core 5. >>> >>> >>> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/5/i386 >>> /os/FC10/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Date: >>> Tue, >>> 31 Mar 2009 01:26:15 GMT >>> >>> >>> Can someone send a recent baseurl for use? >>> >>> >>> in /etc/yum.repos.d, Here's what's listed... >>> ]# ls >>> >>> >>> adobe-linux-i386.repo fedora-rawhide.repo >>> fedora-updates-testing.repo dries.repo fedora.repo >>> freshrpms.repo >>> fedora-core.repo.rpmsave fedora-updates.repo macromedia.repo >>> >>> I will send you any of their contents if needed...or build >>> something anew? >>> >>> Yum wants to point to dries so I copied this one found here on >>> the list.. >>> >>> ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/10/Fe >>> dora /i386/os/Packages/fedora-release-*noarch.rpm >>> >>> >>> copied this one to a repos.d file >>> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/10/i386/ >>> FC10/repodata/repomd.xml: >>> [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:39:51 GMT >>> >>> >>> or Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: dries >>> failure: repodata/repomd.xml from dries: [Errno 256] No more >>> mirrors to try. Cannot open/read repomd.xml file for repository: >>> dries repomd.xml broken? >>> >>> >>> [r...@boatbuyer yum.repos.d]# yum update >>> Options Error: Error parsing 'baseurl': URL must be http, ftp, >>> file or https not "" su -c yum --disablerepo=* install >>> libX11-1.1.5-2.fc10.i386.rpm libX11-devel-1.1.5-2.fc10.i386.rpm >>> su: unrecognized option `--disablerepo=* [snip] >>> >>> I'm copying examples, don't know what I'm doing and not getting >>> anywhere..need some..yelp. >>> [snip] >>> >>> David.. >>> >> >> 1. Don't use yum to install the package. Try using "rpm -Uvh >> ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/10/Fedor >> a/i386/os/Packages/fedora-release-10.1.noarch.rpm" >> > > Have been trying various commands, this one is from an example here > on the list.. > > > [r...@boatbuyer etc]# rpm -Uhv > ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/10/Fedora/i386/os/Packages/fedora-release-*noarch.rpm > Retrieving > ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/10/Fedora/i386/os/Packages/fedora-release-10-1.noarch.rpm > Retrieving > ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/10/Fedora/i386/os/Packages/fedora-release-notes-10.0.0-1.noarch.rpm > warning: /var/tmp/rpm-xfer.q97BGx: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, > key ID 4ebfc273 > Preparing... > ### [100%] > package fedora-release-notes-10.0.0-1 is already installed > package fedora-release-10-1 is already installed PACKAGE FEDORA-RELEASE-10-1 IS ALREADY INSTALLED ---^ > And your suggestion.. > > [r...@boatbuyer etc]# rpm -Uvh > ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/10/Fedora/i386/os/Packages/fedora-release-10.1.noarch.rpm > Retrieving > ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/10/Fedora/i386/os/Packages/fedora-release-10.1.noarch.rpm > error: skipping > ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/10/Fedora/i386/os/Packages/fedora-release-10.1.noarch.rpm > - transfer failed - Unknown or unexpected error Sorry, typo on my part. Should be fedora-release-10-1.noarch.rpm. > Also put baseurl's into /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo > enable=1 > Is this where Yum looks? Because they don't seem to match? Not a surprise. The url was also incorrect or not working for Fedora 9. Go with the default, i.e. mirrorslist, or visit http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist, select a mirror (hope it's a fast one) close to your location, and enter its url in place of the fedora server. >> 2. Using yum to upgrade versions that far a part is not >> recommended. You are better off upgrading via a network install or >> using a CD/DVD. However, if you go this route verify that all the >> .repo files point to >> F10 repositories, upgrade yum before installing any other F10 >> packages. >> Since you have fedora-release-10-1 installed try upgrading yum. >> > 1. My larger problem is that named, messagebus and nfs [FAILED] or > don't work correctly? > > 2. There are many broken links, most of them within /etc? Should I > delete them? Start over? > > 3. Unable to do ISO; DVD and USB are no longer readable in 'gui'? > Not network connected. > > OR > > Can I use any of these recently downloaded files? > > kernel-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.src.rpm > rpmfusion-free-stable.noarch.rpm > xine-lib-extras-freeworld-1.1.16.2-1.fc10.i386.rpm No. > Would like to update by Yum but perhaps other options are > available? > > Is is possible to build and implement kernel 10 overwriting the > broken links and gettin
Re: Where are the Fedora 8 binary and source packages
On Thursday 02 April 2009 05:09:32 Kevin Kofler wrote: > Time to upgrade to Fedora 10! (Skip Fedora 9, its end of life is also > coming soon.) Will do as soon as someone fixes the X server to soft boot multiple cards properly ... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Yum issues..
On Thursday 02 April 2009 05:28:07 Kevin Kofler wrote: > Bill Crawford wrote: > > Typo in the package name, it's fedora-release-10.92-1.noarch > > No, 10.92 is for Rawhide, he's on F10. > > Kevin Kofler Right you are. Forgot I was reading fedora not fedora-devel or fedora-test :o) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: curl question...
On Wednesday 01 April 2009 19:50:13 bruce wrote: > Hi guys... > > I know this isn't the list for this question.. but i'm trying to get a > quick resolve for a problem i have.. i'm prety sure it's user related. > > i'm doing a curl to a site, and not getting the results i'm looking for.. > i've got the cookies/user-agent set.. i'm looking to talk to someone > offlist about what i'm doing, and what i get.. to see if you/they get the > same thing... > > so.. if there's anyone here, who's skilled with curl/cookies/user-agent, > etc... and you're up to looking at my issue, let me know! If you are trying to use the cookie file from a browser, it might be that the cookie you're interested in is a "session" cookie and isn't saved in the file. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Another basic networking question.
Anne Wilson wrote: > On Thursday 02 April 2009 03:09:29 Ed Greshko wrote: > >> Well I still feel that sometimes this list is over used for topics >> that can better be discussed elsewhere. >> > > The trouble with that argument is "Where is elsewhere?" This isn't an idle > question. I often give off-list help to very newbie users, and I'd love to > be > able to tell them that there is a list somewhere where they won't get a rude > answer for asking sensible and civil questions. > > One of the things that I do when faced with a question on a subject that doesn't seem to really fit the lists I'm currently subscribed to is to go over to http://marc.info/ and see if there may be list of interest. I look in the various archives and determine if it may be a better fit. Then I subscribe and ask my question(s). I have even stooped so low as to ask for off-line help when I felt the level of discussion shouldn't be exposed/suffered by others... Yet, keep in mind, that's just me -- Love is never asking why? mei-mei.gres...@greshko.com http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=cCSz_koUhSg signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Another basic networking question.
On Thursday 02 April 2009 10:25:24 Ed Greshko wrote: > Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Thursday 02 April 2009 03:09:29 Ed Greshko wrote: > >> Well I still feel that sometimes this list is over used for topics > >> that can better be discussed elsewhere. > > > > The trouble with that argument is "Where is elsewhere?" This isn't an > > idle question. I often give off-list help to very newbie users, and I'd > > love to be able to tell them that there is a list somewhere where they > > won't get a rude answer for asking sensible and civil questions. > > One of the things that I do when faced with a question on a subject that > doesn't seem to really fit the lists I'm currently subscribed to is to > go over to http://marc.info/ and see if there may be list of interest. > I look in the various archives and determine if it may be a better fit. > Then I subscribe and ask my question(s). > > I have even stooped so low as to ask for off-line help when I felt the > level of discussion shouldn't be exposed/suffered by others... > > Yet, keep in mind, that's just me Yes, sometimes you can find a dedicated list to help with a problem - but that isn't what I'm looking for. What I want to find is a list that I can send a total newbie to, where he can ask the most basic questions about Linux and expect to get answers that he can understand. Mandriva Newbie used to be that list. It isn't any more. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Another basic networking question.
It might be an idea to send the person to an IRC chat room, at least that way the info is in real time, and the person who is looking to learn will be able to observe and learn how people solve issues, and advance using fedora(linux). -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Anne Wilson Sent: 02 April 2009 10:37 To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: Another basic networking question. On Thursday 02 April 2009 10:25:24 Ed Greshko wrote: > Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Thursday 02 April 2009 03:09:29 Ed Greshko wrote: > >> Well I still feel that sometimes this list is over used for > >> topics that can better be discussed elsewhere. > > > > The trouble with that argument is "Where is elsewhere?" This isn't > > an idle question. I often give off-list help to very newbie users, > > and I'd love to be able to tell them that there is a list somewhere > > where they won't get a rude answer for asking sensible and civil questions. > > One of the things that I do when faced with a question on a subject > that doesn't seem to really fit the lists I'm currently subscribed to > is to go over to http://marc.info/ and see if there may be list of interest. > I look in the various archives and determine if it may be a better fit. > Then I subscribe and ask my question(s). > > I have even stooped so low as to ask for off-line help when I felt the > level of discussion shouldn't be exposed/suffered by others... > > Yet, keep in mind, that's just me Yes, sometimes you can find a dedicated list to help with a problem - but that isn't what I'm looking for. What I want to find is a list that I can send a total newbie to, where he can ask the most basic questions about Linux and expect to get answers that he can understand. Mandriva Newbie used to be that list. It isn't any more. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Easy Fedora administration... why not?
If it is not too much to ask could someone of more experinced admins listen to the show (links provided in first email) and then give your opinion about eBox? There is aproximately 15-20minutes of interesting part, you can skip trought the rest. I would love to hear your oppinion after you have heard from the developers of eBox what is this project really about. Cheers, Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Another basic networking question.
On Thursday 02 April 2009 03:09:29 Ed Greshko wrote: > Well I still feel that sometimes this list is over used for topics > that can better be discussed elsewhere. The trouble with that argument is "Where is elsewhere?" This isn't an idle question. I often give off-list help to very newbie users, and I'd love to be able to tell them that there is a list somewhere where they won't get a rude answer for asking sensible and civil questions. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
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Re: Another basic networking question.
On Thursday 02 April 2009 10:42:51 Gabriel - IP Guys wrote: > It might be an idea to send the person to an IRC chat room, at least > that way the info is in real time, and the person who is looking to > learn will be able to observe and learn how people solve issues, and > advance using fedora(linux). That depends - if they have used chatrooms before that would work fine, but many such channels have three or more conversations going on at the same time, and can be really scarey places when you are struggling. I'd hesitate to recommend this to someone who was already showing signs of stress - I don't want to be blamed for him having a stroke! :-) Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
"docbook-utils-pdf" versus "xmlto" for docbook -> PDF
it's been a while since i've rendered docbook files into PDF, and i always used a combination of xmlto and a FOP processor of some kind. can someone in the know explain the differences in the approaches between using xmlto, and using the docbook-utils-pdf package? are these things now ready to go out of the box because, if memory serves, they used to have some pretty rough edges. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry: Have classroom, will lecture. http://crashcourse.ca Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Another basic networking question.
-Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Anne Wilson Sent: 02 April 2009 11:01 To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: Another basic networking question. On Thursday 02 April 2009 10:42:51 Gabriel - IP Guys wrote: > It might be an idea to send the person to an IRC chat room, at least > that way the info is in real time, and the person who is looking to > learn will be able to observe and learn how people solve issues, and > advance using fedora(linux). That depends - if they have used chatrooms before that would work fine, but many such channels have three or more conversations going on at the same time, and can be really scarey places when you are struggling. I'd hesitate to recommend this to someone who was already showing signs of stress - I don't want to be blamed for him having a stroke! :-) Gabriel Says - I think I have to agree with you on that one! Okay, well, there are a number of how to sites, that may make pleasant reading for newbies... http://www.fedorafaq.org/ - Should answer a few questions, and maybe even motivate the newbie guy/person/girl to want to learn more. Just an idea :) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: RPM security (a newbie question)
Todd Zullinger wrote: By policy, there are things that rpm scriptlets should not do. But if you created an rpm which had a %post section containing rm -rf /, rpm would run it AFAIK. Oh! 8-O I wonder how easy it is to create a rootkit/trojan horse/whatever and get it loaded on Fedora users' computers. You would need to create a trojan package and get it onto the mirrors, signed by the Fedora package signing key for a particular release. This is not an easy task Really? Have you seen a list telling you who reviewed which package before it got signed with Fedora key? Probably there are lots of packages reviewed by their authors only? STF === http://eisenbits.homelinux.net/~stf/ OpenPGP: 9D25 3D89 75F1 DF1D F434 25D7 E87F A1B9 B80F 8062 === signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: RPM security (a newbie question)
Stanisław T. Findeisen wrote: > Really? Have you seen a list telling you who reviewed which package > before it got signed with Fedora key? > > Probably there are lots of packages reviewed by their authors only? Review and signing are two different processes. Every single new package has to go through a review process as outlined in http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/ReviewGuidelines Signing a package is done by a small number of people in the release engineering team and they do that manually before pushing it into the repositories. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: qgtkstyle on qt4
No .qt or *qt* directory in home for me :( Best Regards, David 2009/4/1 Bill Crawford : > On Wednesday 01 April 2009 13:31:33 David Hláčik wrote: >> Hello, >> >> how could I check that? >> >> Best Regards, >> David Hlacik >> >> 2009/4/1 Bill Crawford : >> > On Wednesday 01 April 2009 08:23:58 David Hláčik wrote: >> >> Hello guys, >> >> >> >> I did installed gtk-nodoka-engine.i386, but still skype ignores gtk >> >> looks. >> > >> > It's probably time to figure out how and where qtconfig stores the style >> > setting as if it's doing something as odd as store a path to a .so that >> > implements the style, you might find that it's looking in /usr/lib64 >> > instead of /usr/lib for the style and therefore it won't load in a 32-bit >> > process. > > Well, with qt3 you'd be looking at .qt/qtrc etc, which has a "libraryPath" > setting, this is why I'm wondering if the problem is indeed that qt is looking > in 64 bit libs for a plugin to render the style. Have a look in your home > directory for a .qt directory. > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Another basic networking question.
On Thursday 02 April 2009 11:50:17 Gabriel - IP Guys wrote: > Okay, well, there are a > number of how to sites, that may make pleasant reading for newbies... > http://www.fedorafaq.org/ - Should answer a few questions, and maybe > even motivate the newbie guy/person/girl to want to learn more. I guess I should look for sites similar to that for several distros - partly because of the differences, but also so as to avoid panic. It's not fair to expect newbies to know what is distro-specific and what isn't. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
yum update vs yum upgrade
What is the difference between these? They seem to have the same effect in my case; -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: RPM security (a newbie question)
Rahul Sundaram wrote: Probably there are lots of packages reviewed by their authors only? Review and signing are two different processes. Every single new package has to go through a review process as outlined in http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/ReviewGuidelines Signing a package is done by a small number of people in the release engineering team and they do that manually before pushing it into the repositories. Well, it looks that those "review guidelines" cover mostly administrative/legal issues. It looks that no one cares about the source code. So it looks that it's quite possible to have a lot of trojan horses/rootkits/whatever in the distribution tree. To get rid of it, we would have to review the source code. STF === http://eisenbits.homelinux.net/~stf/ OpenPGP: 9D25 3D89 75F1 DF1D F434 25D7 E87F A1B9 B80F 8062 === signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kernel-firmware package and Anaconda.
Bram_Gro wrote: > (to have "a" minimalised installation) typo, sorry. The firmware separation doesn't do what you want it to do, yet. Refer http://lwn.net/Articles/284932/ Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Easy Fedora administration... why not?
Valent Turkovic wrote: > If it is not too much to ask could someone of more experinced admins > listen to the show (links provided in first email) and then give your > opinion about eBox? There is aproximately 15-20minutes of interesting > part, you can skip trought the rest. > > I would love to hear your oppinion after you have heard from the > developers of eBox what is this project really about. ebox - the developers I mailed a long time back had developed it with Debian systems in mind and were not interested in integrating it with other distributions. It would require someone to invest a good amount of time with code and packaging to let it run on Fedora. Listening to podcasts isn't changing that. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: RPM security (a newbie question)
Stanisław T. Findeisen wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: >>> Probably there are lots of packages reviewed by their authors only? >> >> Review and signing are two different processes. Every single new package >> has to go through a review process as outlined in >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/ReviewGuidelines >> >> Signing a package is done by a small number of people in the release >> engineering team and they do that manually before pushing it into the >> repositories. > > Well, it looks that those "review guidelines" cover mostly > administrative/legal issues. It looks that no one cares about the source > code. You missed that the review guidelines has a source check as well. Read it in detail. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: RPM security (a newbie question)
Rahul Sundaram wrote: You missed that the review guidelines has a source check as well. Read it in detail. Where's that, sorry? STF === http://eisenbits.homelinux.net/~stf/ OpenPGP: 9D25 3D89 75F1 DF1D F434 25D7 E87F A1B9 B80F 8062 === signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: RPM security (a newbie question)
Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Stanisław T. Findeisen wrote: >> Well, it looks that those "review guidelines" cover mostly >> administrative/legal issues. It looks that no one cares about the >> source code. > > You missed that the review guidelines has a source check as well. > Read it in detail. While the review guidelines do make sure that the source code matches upstream¹, that doesn't ensure that upstream doesn't have backdoors, holes, malicious content, etc. The only solution for that is more eyes loooking over the code that makes up the OS. What mitigates that is knowing that if upstream has such code, it may be noticed not only by Fedora, but by any other distro or user. And that would surely become known rather quickly. One big advantage that free software has is that anyone is free to look over the code. The more people that use that freedom, the better off we'll all be. ¹ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:ReviewGuidelines includes: MUST: The sources used to build the package must match the upstream source, as provided in the spec URL. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ I always keep a supply of stimulant handy in case I see a snake - which I also keep handy. -- W. C. Fields pgpS8veN1BpxN.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: RPM security (a newbie question)
Todd Zullinger wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> Stanisław T. Findeisen wrote: >>> Well, it looks that those "review guidelines" cover mostly >>> administrative/legal issues. It looks that no one cares about the >>> source code. >> You missed that the review guidelines has a source check as well. >> Read it in detail. > > While the review guidelines do make sure that the source code matches > upstream¹, that doesn't ensure that upstream doesn't have backdoors, > holes, malicious content, etc. That's a totally different question IMO. We at the distribution level can only check whether there is a packaging level attempt at introducing a security hole. Doing a complete security audit of all the code that is being included is not feasible at all at the distribution level. This btw, has nothing to do with RPM or any other packaging method. All distributions work on the principle that upstream projects are responsible at the code level for their own security. We can add things like compiler options and firewalls but that doesn't prevent a upstream security hole from being exploited, whether introduced accidentally or not. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: yum update vs yum upgrade
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Timothy Murphy wrote: What is the difference between these? They seem to have the same effect in my case; In the stock configuration nothing. They used to be different in that update would not do obsolete processing and upgrade would. That changed a while back. From the yum man page: update If run without any packages, update will update every currently installed package. If one or more packages or package globs are specified, Yum will only update the listed packages. While updating packages, yum will ensure that all dependencies are satisfied. If the packages or globs specified match to packages which are not currently installed then update will not install them. If the main obsoletes configure option is true (default) or the --obsoletes flag is present yum will include package obsoletes in its calculations - this makes it better for distro-version changes, for example: upgrading from somelinux 8.0 to somelinux 9. And upgrade Is the same as the update command with the --obsoletes flag set. See update for more details. Regards, -- Tom Diehl tdi...@rogueind.com Spamtrap address mtd...@rogueind.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: RPM security (a newbie question)
Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Todd Zullinger wrote: >> While the review guidelines do make sure that the source code >> matches upstream¹, that doesn't ensure that upstream doesn't have >> backdoors, holes, malicious content, etc. > > That's a totally different question IMO. No doubt. I was only mentioning this because I _think_ it is what Stanisław was getting at. > We at the distribution level can only check whether there is a > packaging level attempt at introducing a security hole. Doing a > complete security audit of all the code that is being included is > not feasible at all at the distribution level. This btw, has nothing > to do with RPM or any other packaging method. All distributions work > on the principle that upstream projects are responsible at the code > level for their own security. We can add things like compiler > options and firewalls but that doesn't prevent a upstream security > hole from being exploited, whether introduced accidentally or not. I fully agree. :) And, of course, on top of compiler options and firewalls, SELinux is one more layer that is added to protect against problems in upstream code. If upstream code has some hole that tries to mail off /etc/passwd somewhere, this is very likely to be denied by SELinux. And when someone reports the denial, Dan, Miroslav, and the other SELinux maintainers aren't too likely to allow it without asking what good reason the upstream code would have to take such an action. But as you say, it's not possible for any distro to find and fix every security hole, just as it's not possible to find and fix every bug. More help is always welcome. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ I always keep a supply of stimulant handy in case I see a snake - which I also keep handy. -- W. C. Fields pgp7zNB2j7Yo6.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Resizing with gparted for Fedora installation
Hello, I have a new Lenovo laptop with Windows Vista on it. I want to install Linux on it while keeping vista on it (though I rarely intend to use Vista, keeping vista is a MUST for me). So I want it to be dual boot. There is one partition on the disk, with 160GB. I consider using gparted livecd for it. In fact, I did not used the There is a way to Windows Vista except booting once into the system, so most of the disk is free. I know how to use the resize feature of gparted. I intend to resize the partition to 20 GB and then create a new parition in the free space which will be created. On the new paritition I intend to install the Linux. My questions are: 1) Is it safe to do resizing with gparted ? 2) I saw in the web in some post : run: #ntfsfix -V and then: if you don't see version 2 don't use this version of gparted on Vista NTFS volumes 3) This can be done also by ntfsresize, thus: ntfsresize -s 20G /dev/sda1 Is ntfsresize -s 20G any better ? safer? or is it in fact the same (but not from the GUI)? Regards, Mark Ryden -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Fedora 11 Countdown Banner?
Hi, I have the same JavaScript code on my blog that was used for the Fedora 10 release. I saw a blog entry ( http://blog.berkenpies.nl/2009/04/02/fedora-11-countdown-counter-part-2/) talking about the Fedora 11 counter, but it's the same exact code that I have on my site. My site is still showing Fedora 10. Does a Fedora 11 counter exist? -- Marc F. www.fergytech.com Registered Linux User: #410978 "When life gives me lemons... I make Linuxaide, hmm good stuff!" -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: RPM security (a newbie question)
Rahul Sundaram wrote: While the review guidelines do make sure that the source code matches upstream¹, that doesn't ensure that upstream doesn't have backdoors, holes, malicious content, etc. That's a totally different question IMO. We at the distribution level can only check whether there is a packaging level attempt at introducing a security hole. Doing a complete security audit of all the code that is being included is not feasible at all at the distribution level. This btw, has nothing to do with RPM or any other packaging method. All distributions work on the principle that upstream projects are responsible at the code level for their own security. We can add things like compiler options and firewalls but that doesn't prevent a upstream security hole from being exploited, whether introduced accidentally or not. Okay is there any software written specifically for Fedora? KDE gadgets, or such? If so, then I guess we should monitor it at the distribution level. STF === http://eisenbits.homelinux.net/~stf/ OpenPGP: 9D25 3D89 75F1 DF1D F434 25D7 E87F A1B9 B80F 8062 === signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: RPM security (a newbie question)
Todd Zullinger wrote: And, of course, on top of compiler options and firewalls, SELinux is one more layer that is added to protect against problems in upstream code. If upstream code has some hole that tries to mail off /etc/passwd somewhere, this is very likely to be denied by SELinux. And when someone reports the denial, Dan, Miroslav, and the other SELinux maintainers aren't too likely to allow it without asking what good reason the upstream code would have to take such an action. SELinux will not help you more if it gets overwritten/rootkited by malicious RPM package (for instance during the install process). You execute rpm install as root, don't you. STF === http://eisenbits.homelinux.net/~stf/ OpenPGP: 9D25 3D89 75F1 DF1D F434 25D7 E87F A1B9 B80F 8062 === signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: VMware server 2.0 on 64-bit F10
Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: I'm unable to connect to VMware Server 2 via https://127.0.0.1:8333. The connection times out. I've been reading fragments of reports elsewhere on the web that others are running into major problems with VMware Server 2 on 64-bit F10. They all say they can't shut down VMware services or re-run vmware-config.pl without hard resetting via the power switch. Some have suggested shutting down SELinux (add selinux=0 to grub.conf), but this doesn't fix the problem. Others have suggested shutting down the firewall. Again, no joy. Can anyone point me to a working solution? --Doc Savage Fairview Heights, IL Did you finish the install by running "vmware-config.pl" ? Its a must. and you must have your kernel dev packages installed to do it. Second: do "service vmware status" to see if the services are up ... if not start them. Also try your non https port at 8222 (which is the default, you can change it in the config script). wcn -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: RPM security (a newbie question)
Stanisław T. Findeisen wrote: > Okay is there any software written specifically for Fedora? KDE gadgets, > or such? > > If so, then I guess we should monitor it at the distribution level. Much of the software originally written for Fedora are used by other distributions as well like NetworkManager for example. Very very few components are only in Fedora and developers of the code are responsible for it's security, same as any upstream software. There is nothing special about them. Again, this has nothing to do with RPM. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: RPM security (a newbie question)
"Stanisław T. Findeisen" wrote: > SELinux will not help you more if it gets overwritten/rootkited by > malicious RPM package (for instance during the install process). But then we're back to the question of how such a malicious rpm would get onto your system. Someone doing such a thing in %post would get noticed pretty quickly. If someone packaged up files that overwrote files provided by the selinux packages, rpm would complain about those because they would conflict. So that avenue is a bit tricky. It's not entirely impossible, but it's not really easy either. I don't think this list is the place to engage in endless discussions on striving for ultimate security (a state that does not exist, anywhere). A much better use of time would be in auditing the software that you can and in finding ways to help improve the process to plug the limited number of potential entry points for malicious code to be installed. (The quote in my sig is entirely random. Though I sometimes wonder if fortune isn't just a bit eerie in its choices. :) -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ A paranoid is someone who knows a little of what's going on. -- William S. Burroughs pgpKhLStD7iZZ.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 11 Countdown Banner?
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 09:26:05AM -0400, Marc Ferguson wrote: > Hi, > > I have the same JavaScript code on my blog that was used for the Fedora 10 > release. I saw a blog entry (http://blog.berkenpies.nl/2009/04/02/ > fedora-11-countdown-counter-part-2/) talking about the Fedora 11 counter, but > it's the same exact code that I have on my site. My site is still showing > Fedora 10. Does a Fedora 11 counter exist? I don't believe the new counter starts until some time around or following the F11 Preview Release. Once it does, your counter will automatically switch. There's no reason the counter couldn't start earlier, but that would be up to someone to create the banner in association with the Art team, and get it into the website repo. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgpxe4sHvl8Q7.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Resizing with gparted for Fedora installation
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Mark Ryden wrote: > Hello, > I have a new Lenovo laptop with Windows Vista on it. I want to install Linux > on it while keeping vista on it (though I rarely intend to use Vista, > keeping vista is a MUST for me). So I want it to be dual boot. There is > one partition on the disk, with 160GB. I consider using gparted livecd for it. > In fact, I did not used the > There is a way to Windows Vista except booting once into the system, so most > of > the disk is free. > I know how to use the resize feature of gparted. I intend to resize > the partition > to 20 GB and then create a new parition in the free space which will be > created. On the new paritition I intend to install the Linux. > My questions are: > 1) Is it safe to do resizing with gparted ? > 2) I saw in the web in some post : > run: > #ntfsfix -V > and then: > if you don't see version 2 don't use this version of gparted on Vista > NTFS volumes > > 3) This can be done also by ntfsresize, thus: > ntfsresize -s 20G /dev/sda1 > > Is ntfsresize -s 20G any better ? safer? or is it in fact the same > (but not from > the GUI)? > > Regards, > Mark Ryden I bought a Lenovo laptop with Windows Vista on it. I used gparted livecd to resize it. In my case, there was a ~5GB recovery partition before Vista. The gparted resize of NTFS took an incredibly long time (45 minutes or more, can't recall), but it worked without any problems. Vista will need to run a check on boot, but that did not have any issues either. I have done this now twice with the liveccd without any problems. If I were you I would recommend leaving the space you resize completely empty and let the next Linux/Fedora installer partition it for you. Added point: In my case, I found leaving Vista only 20GB completely unusable (I've since bought a new drive, and gave it at least 30GB now). -Mauriat -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: RPM security (a newbie question)
Stanisław T. Findeisen wrote: Todd Zullinger wrote: And, of course, on top of compiler options and firewalls, SELinux is one more layer that is added to protect against problems in upstream code. If upstream code has some hole that tries to mail off /etc/passwd somewhere, this is very likely to be denied by SELinux. And when someone reports the denial, Dan, Miroslav, and the other SELinux maintainers aren't too likely to allow it without asking what good reason the upstream code would have to take such an action. SELinux will not help you more if it gets overwritten/rootkited by malicious RPM package (for instance during the install process). You execute rpm install as root, don't you. Selinux might help you there but it depends entirely on the policy in use. SELinux has no concept of "root" as you understand it. In SELinux root is just another user that can be confined like everyone else, the current policy maintains the traditional "root is god" sort of thing but this is not a requirement of SELinux but a requirement of its user base. As to what protection the current policy in use provides against that sort of thing, others more qualified may answer in more detail. If SELinux interests you then read this : http://docs.fedoraproject.org/selinux-user-guide/ -- "Any fool can know. The point is to understand" --Albert Einstein Bored?? http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Fuqwit1.0 http://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/Coding_the_Magic_into_the_Eight_Ball -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 11 Countdown Banner?
Marc Ferguson wrote: I have the same JavaScript code on my blog that was used for the Fedora 10 release. I saw a blog entry (http://blog.berkenpies.nl/2009/04/02/fedora-11-countdown-counter-part-2/) talking about the Fedora 11 counter, but it's the same exact code that I have on my site. My site is still showing Fedora 10. Does a Fedora 11 counter exist? It is early, for the last releases we had it running in the last month or so, when we had quite sure the release date will not have a major delay. AFAIK, Paolo Leoni from the Art Team, who did the graphics for F10, expressed the interest to make them for F11 too. The artwork used in the Beta release (Greek landscape with temple) is going to be replaced with something completely different, so once we are settled on the wallpaper graphic, the counter can be made to fit it. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: using 'mv' instead of 'cp' to transfer directories to other partitions or disks
On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 19:42 -0700, jackson byers wrote: > - > my question: isn't it true that use of 'mv' is much faster than 'cp' > or rsync? > ie to "copy everything somewhere else" > instead > "mv everything somewhere else" > and > instead of > "..and copy back" > do > ".. mv back" mv is faster if you are on the same partition since the data is not moved just the pointer to the data is changed. If you are using mv to transfer to a different disk or partition it probably a little slower. -- === Everything ends badly. Otherwise it wouldn't end. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Resizing with gparted for Fedora installation
On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 16:17 +0300, Mark Ryden wrote: > Hello, > I have a new Lenovo laptop with Windows Vista on it. I want to install Linux > on it while keeping vista on it (though I rarely intend to use Vista, > keeping vista is a MUST for me). So I want it to be dual boot. There is > one partition on the disk, with 160GB. I consider using gparted livecd for it. > In fact, I did not used the > There is a way to Windows Vista except booting once into the system, so most > of > the disk is free. > I know how to use the resize feature of gparted. I intend to resize > the partition > to 20 GB and then create a new parition in the free space which will be > created. On the new paritition I intend to install the Linux. > My questions are: > 1) Is it safe to do resizing with gparted ? > 2) I saw in the web in some post : > run: > #ntfsfix -V > and then: > if you don't see version 2 don't use this version of gparted on Vista > NTFS volumes > > 3) This can be done also by ntfsresize, thus: > ntfsresize -s 20G /dev/sda1 > > Is ntfsresize -s 20G any better ? safer? or is it in fact the same > (but not from > the GUI)? > > Regards, > Mark Ryden > You probably want to defrag the disk first, -- === An aphorism is never exactly true; it is either a half-truth or one-and-a-half truths. -- Karl Kraus === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Another basic networking question.
On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 15:48 +1030, Tim wrote: > On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 11:56 +1100, Simon Slater wrote: > > When a firewall computer has 2 nics, they should be on separate > > subnets? Yes? > > That depends on how you want to use them. If the computer sits > *between* two networks, then yes. Clarification of the answer above. They can be on different LANS, but do not have to be. -- === I called my parents the other night, but I forgot about the time difference. They're still living in the fifties. -- Strange de Jim === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Fedora 3, 4 and 6 - Remote Upgrade Advice?
Dear All, Thank you for reading my message. I have to upgrade three linux boxes, that are FC3,4 and 6. Now, the problem that I have is that these machines have other services running on them, and I do not want to break anything. All three servers are in two collocation facilities, and I believe that the safest method, is to move all services off from the machines, and also remove all software to make the machines as stock as possible. I then plan to run yum upgrade a few times until I'm up to date with the repo, and then follow that with a yum upgrade - rinse, and repeat until I'm at FC8 - I'll wait until 11 is in beta before I move forward to FC9. I would appreciate any help or comments that you have. Thank you. --- Mr Gabriel -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 3, 4 and 6 - Remote Upgrade Advice?
Gabriel - IP Guys wrote: > Dear All, > > Thank you for reading my message. I have to upgrade three linux boxes, > that are FC3,4 and 6. Now, the problem that I have is that these > machines have other services running on them, and I do not want to break > anything. > > All three servers are in two collocation facilities, and I believe that > the safest method, is to move all services off from the machines, and > also remove all software to make the machines as stock as possible. I > then plan to run yum upgrade a few times until I'm up to date with the > repo, and then follow that with a yum upgrade - rinse, and repeat until > I'm at FC8 - I'll wait until 11 is in beta before I move forward to FC9. > I would appreciate any help or comments that you have. I'm not sure I would do 'yum upgrade'. But, with the systems being remote I don't know what other options there are on systems that old. I've got several systems I've upgraded (via media) from FC2 up to F9 without trouble. -- Frustra laborant quotquot se calculationibus fatigant pro inventione quadraturae circuli Mark Haney Sr. Systems Administrator ERC Broadband (828) 350-2415 Call (866) ERC-7110 for after hours support -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: RPM security (a newbie question)
On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 15:22 +0200, "Stanisław T. Findeisen" wrote: > Todd Zullinger wrote: > > And, of course, on top of compiler options and firewalls, SELinux is > > one more layer that is added to protect against problems in upstream > > code. If upstream code has some hole that tries to mail off > > /etc/passwd somewhere, this is very likely to be denied by SELinux. > > And when someone reports the denial, Dan, Miroslav, and the other > > SELinux maintainers aren't too likely to allow it without asking what > > good reason the upstream code would have to take such an action. > > SELinux will not help you more if it gets overwritten/rootkited by > malicious RPM package (for instance during the install process). > > You execute rpm install as root, don't you. Actually depending on the policy that is configured SELinux could help here. The root account is not "special" to SELinux and can be confined just like any other user. I am not aware of any specific work looking at preventing malicious packages from harming the system (since most of the work here is aimed at securing the package delivery and ensuring that packages from untrusted sources are not installed inadvertently) but there are others on this list who can probably provide more insight into how well this could be made work. Regards, Bryn. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: VMware server 2.0 on 64-bit F10
On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 07:30 -0600, Wendell Nichols wrote: > Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: > > I'm unable to connect to VMware Server 2 via https://127.0.0.1:8333. The > > connection times out. I've been reading fragments of reports elsewhere > > on the web that others are running into major problems with VMware > > Server 2 on 64-bit F10. They all say they can't shut down VMware > > services or re-run vmware-config.pl without hard resetting via the power > > switch. Some have suggested shutting down SELinux (add selinux=0 to > > grub.conf), but this doesn't fix the problem. Others have suggested > > shutting down the firewall. Again, no joy. > > > > Can anyone point me to a working solution? > > > > --Doc Savage > > Fairview Heights, IL > > > > > Did you finish the install by running "vmware-config.pl" ? Its a must. > and you must have your kernel dev packages installed to do it. > Second: do "service vmware status" to see if the services are up ... if > not start them. > Also try your non https port at 8222 (which is the default, you can > change it in the config script). > wcn I run 2 servers with VMware Server on F10 at my church and have seen this before. I think it's a bug somewhere, but am not really sure. I think it's that something gets crossed up with kernel versions in the VMware Server configuration. What I usually do to fix the problem - believe it or not - is to shutdown and reboot the server. Twice. What this seems to do is to force VMware to figure out that it isn't properly configured and then allows you to run vmware-config.pl successfully. As to the questions about selinux and the firewall: - Yes, selinux must be disabled. Nobody has yet figured out exactly why. It's an ongoing issue. Permissive mode doesn't cut it. But you can disable it from the selinux menu (System --> Administration --> SELinux Administration). - No you do NOT have to disable the firewall. But you DO have to allow communication on ports 901, 902, 8222, and 8333. I usually open them up for both TCP and UDP, even though UDP is probably not needed. Hope that helps! Cheers, Chris -- = "The most effective way to do it is to do it." --Amelia Earhart, American Aviation Pioneer -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Interactive startup on F10. Pressing "I" doesn't work
Tim wrote: > Alan Evans wrote: >> It surely used to work. But I just confirmed it doesn't work now. > > Is any keypress having any effect? Things like USB keyboards aren't > always available until some drivers are up and alive. I tested on my netbook, so the keyboard was part of the machine. As I held down the key, a small row of letters were printed on the screen. The key press is definitely being recognized by the system; it's just not triggering the desired effect in the startup sequence. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Kde freezes in Fedora 10
Hi, rpm -qa | grep kde kdepimlibs-akonadi-4.2.1-2.fc10.1.i386 akonadi-1.1.1-6.fc10.i386 [shib...@localhost ~]$ rpm -qa | grep kde kdelibs-common-4.1.2-5.fc10.i386 kde-i18n-Bengali-3.5.10-1.fc10.noarch kdegames3-libs-3.5.10-3.fc10.i386 kdepim-libs-4.2.1-3.fc10.i386 kdebase-libs-4.2.1-2.fc10.i386 kdebase-4.2.1-2.fc10.i386 kdesdk-utils-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386 kdeedu-marble-4.2.1-1.fc10.i386 kdeutils-printer-applet-4.2.1-3.fc10.i386 kdemultimedia-libs-4.2.1-1.fc10.i386 kdegraphics-4.2.1-3.fc10.i386 kde-settings-pulseaudio-4.1-6.20090206svn.fc10.noarch kdeartwork-4.2.1-1.fc10.i386 solar-kde-theme-0.1.16-2.fc10.noarch kdevelop-3.5.3-1.fc10.i386 kdegames3-3.5.10-3.fc10.i386 kdebase-runtime-4.2.1-2.fc10.i386 kdepim-4.2.1-3.fc10.i386 lockdev-devel-1.0.1-13.fc10.i386 kdelibs3-3.5.10-1.fc10.i386 kdevelop-libs-3.5.3-1.fc10.i386 kdegraphics-libs-4.2.1-3.fc10.i386 kdegames-libs-4.2.1-1.fc10.i386 kdenetwork-libs-4.2.1-1.fc10.i386 kdeplasma-addons-4.2.1-1.fc10.i386 lockdev-1.0.1-13.fc10.i386 kde-settings-kdm-4.1-4.20081031svn.fc10.noarch kde-settings-4.1-6.20090206svn.fc10.noarch kdepimlibs-akonadi-4.2.1-2.fc10.1.i386 kdenetwork-4.2.1-1.fc10.i386 kdeutils-4.2.1-3.fc10.i386 kdesdk-libs-4.1.2-4.fc10.i386 kdelibs-4.2.1-4.fc10.i386 kdebase-runtime-libs-4.2.1-2.fc10.i386 kde-filesystem-4-23.fc10.noarch kdepimlibs-devel-4.2.1-2.fc10.1.i386 kdemultimedia-4.2.1-1.fc10.i386 kdelibs3-devel-3.5.10-1.fc10.i386 kdegames-4.2.1-1.fc10.i386 kdebase-workspace-4.2.1-7.fc10.i386 kdelibs-devel-4.2.1-4.fc10.i386 kdepimlibs-4.2.1-2.fc10.1.i386 kdeaccessibility-4.2.1-1.fc10.i386 kdebase-workspace-libs-4.2.1-7.fc10.i386 After running firefox or konqueror kde freezes but the mouse moves. Can anyone give any idea? Thanks. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Easy Fedora administration... why not?
Kevin Kofler wrote: Craig White wrote: sure, blame the messenger...I suspect that the truth is more likely that you are old. Hmmm, is 25 old? ;-) I used linuxconf at some point where it was still the RHL configuration tool. Of course I was like 15 or 16 at the time. :-) Gee, when I was 16, I was using BASIC on a GE Mark235 via a 55baud teletype. :) We got our hands on FORTRAN later that year, and the paper tape reader on the newer 110baud teletype just screamed! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kde freezes in Fedora 10
GMS S wrote: > After running firefox or konqueror kde freezes but the mouse moves. > Can anyone give any idea? what video hw/driver is in use here? Is desktop effects enabled? -- Rex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Resizing with gparted for Fedora installation
On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 09:00 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > You probably want to defrag the disk first, If you use gparted, it says that's a waste of time, since it moves what it has to, itself. Of course, I had to find that detail after watching a PC spend hours defrag before I resized a partition. I wonder if different defrag tools are more efficient? I was staggered at how slow Windows 2000 defragged itself, and it only had 2 or 3 gigs that it had to defrag. It took hours, whereas I could have just copied files from one disc to another, if I had a spare one handy, much quicker. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.19-78.2.30.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 11 Countdown Banner?
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 04:54:49PM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Marc Ferguson wrote: >> >> I have the same JavaScript code on my blog that was used for the Fedora >> 10 release. I saw a blog entry >> (http://blog.berkenpies.nl/2009/04/02/fedora-11-countdown-counter-part-2/) >> talking about the Fedora 11 counter, but it's the same exact code that I >> have on my site. My site is still showing Fedora 10. Does a Fedora 11 >> counter exist? > > It is early, for the last releases we had it running in the last month or > so, when we had quite sure the release date will not have a major delay. > > AFAIK, Paolo Leoni from the Art Team, who did the graphics for F10, > expressed the interest to make them for F11 too. > > The artwork used in the Beta release (Greek landscape with temple) is > going to be replaced with something completely different, so once we are > settled on the wallpaper graphic, the counter can be made to fit it. Also, this showed up in my reading of the Fedora Planet this morning: http://blog.berkenpies.nl/?p=128 -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug pgpU4fWHOIoJh.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Another basic networking question.
Simon Slater: >>> When a firewall computer has 2 nics, they should be on separate >>> subnets? Yes? Tim: >> That depends on how you want to use them. If the computer sits >> *between* two networks, then yes. Aaron Konstam: > Clarification of the answer above. They can be on different LANS, but do > not have to be. I don't see how that's a clarification... NB: Simon talked about a "firewall computer." Generally (hence my "it depends"), to use a computer as a firewall, you'd put it between two networks. Which may be the ISP's and yours. Or, any two networks of any type (such as the research LAN and the cafeteria LAN, in single business). Even when you put a firewall on one computer, to protect itself from the outside, it's typically carving up the networking, albeit internally, into two halves. Outer and inner, with control between the two halves, and different rules for each. It's rather difficult, if not impossible, for a computer to act as a firewall when it's not *between* the protected network and the rest. And trying to make either side seem to be the same subnet will be an nightmarish exercise in configuration, and prone to networking errors. Don't get too hung up on the name "subnet." A subnet is a network, two subnets in a building are two networks. It's just a name used when a network is carved into separate branches. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.19-78.2.30.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: RPM security (a newbie question)
Stanisław T. Findeisen wrote: > Todd Zullinger wrote: >> And, of course, on top of compiler options and firewalls, SELinux is >> one more layer that is added to protect against problems in upstream >> code. If upstream code has some hole that tries to mail off >> /etc/passwd somewhere, this is very likely to be denied by SELinux. >> And when someone reports the denial, Dan, Miroslav, and the other >> SELinux maintainers aren't too likely to allow it without asking what >> good reason the upstream code would have to take such an action. > > SELinux will not help you more if it gets overwritten/rootkited by > malicious RPM package (for instance during the install process). > > You execute rpm install as root, don't you. > > STF > That is why you should only install RPMs with keys you trust. Then again, if you want to be safe, you should only use code you have written/inspected yourself, compiled on a compiler that you have written yourself. After all, it was proven that you could imbed code in the compiler that would be added to any program that you compiled with it, and would not show up in the compiler source code. (The compiler would add the code automatically when compiling itself.) There is not way to be 100% safe and still have a working system. You can come close to 100% safe if you never turn your computer on, and have it locked in a vault someplace. But it would not be very useful that way. Now, if you are worried about malicious scripts in RPM packages, you can always download the packages, and inspect them before installing them. Even better - only download the source RPMs and build them yourself. You still run the risk of malicious code in the compiler, or in RPM itself... Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Konqueror uses Adobe Reader rather than Okular...
Yesterday I installed Adobe Reader because I needed to fill out an interactive PDF form. Today when I view a PDF in Konqueror it is using Adobe Reader rather than Okular. I want Konqueror to use Okular, not Adobe Reader. If I open a PDF in Dolphin, it uses Okular. How do I set Konqueror to use Okular rather than Adobe Reader ? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Interactive startup on F10. Pressing "I" doesn't work
On Thursday 02 April 2009 06:15, g wrote: > Nigel Henry wrote: > > Does anyone know how to enter the interactive startup/bootup on F10? > > exactly how/where, no. > > you can start by having a look at '/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit' script, which > is where prompt is issued, in f9 and comparing to f10. > > also, be aware that interactive does not start immediately, as can > be seen in reading script. This appears to be the relevant bit on F9's rc.sysinit script. # Now that we have all of our basic modules loaded and the kernel going, # let's dump the syslog ring somewhere so we can find it later [ -f /var/log/dmesg ] && mv -f /var/log/dmesg /var/log/dmesg.old dmesg -s 131072 > /var/log/dmesg # create the crash indicator flag to warn on crashes, offer fsck with timeout touch /.autofsck &> /dev/null if [ "$PROMPT" != no ]; then while :; do pid=$(/sbin/pidof getkey) [ -n "$pid" -o -e /var/run/getkey_done ] && break usleep 10 done [ -n "$pid" ] && kill -TERM "$pid" >/dev/null 2>&1 fi } & if strstr "$cmdline" confirm ; then touch /var/run/confirm fi if [ "$PROMPT" != "no" ]; then /sbin/getkey i && touch /var/run/confirm touch /var/run/getkey_done fi wait [ "$PROMPT" != no ] && rm -f /var/run/getkey_done # Let rhgb know that we're leaving rc.sysinit if [ -x /usr/bin/rhgb-client ] && /usr/bin/rhgb-client --ping ; then /usr/bin/rhgb-client --sysinit fi And back up at about line 256 is where the graphical prompt for the Interactive startup is. On both F8, and F10, the script appears to be identical. If I boot F8, I can press the i key once, and it goes into interactive mode. With F9, one press doesn't work, and sometimes multiple presses of the i key don't work. A bit hit and miss on F9, but it eventually works. With F10, I can't get it to work at all. All 3 distros are on the same machine, and according to rc.sysinit are using fastboot. Keyboard is ps2, and keystrokes are shown on the screen after the prompt to enter interactive mode, so not a keyboard problem. On F9, the first instance of prompt is at line 256, which is at the end of a few lines about printing a text banner. On F10, it is on lines 277-280, as below. if [ "$PROMPT" != "no" ]; then echo -en $"\t\tPress 'I' to enter interactive startup." echo fi I don't see where the time limit you have to press the i key is though. A line above on F8, F9, and F10's rc.sysinit mentions usleep 10, but that is only 1 tenth of a second according to a bit of googling usleep, so perhaps that is for something else. It seems that between F8, and F10, entering interactive startup has become more and more difficult, to the extent, that on least this machine using an Asus M2N-X Plus mobo, I cannot enter interactive mode at all With F10. Anyone have any idea as to what may be the problem? F8, F9, and F10, all have the line "usleep 10, so that perhaps is not the problem. The problem is that on F10, when pressing the i key, it's showing up on the bootup text screen, but it's being ignored by the rc.sysinit script, and no action is being taken. This isn't just an academic question, as when I installed F9 on the mobo above, there were bootup problems post install, and I needed to access interactive startup to disable some services. Having done that, the bootup proceeded ok. I don't mind hacking the rc.sysinit script on F10 to perhaps resolve the problem, if anyone has any suggestions. If not, perhaps a link to who I should ask to resolve the problem. Thanks for any suggestions. Nigel. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: curl question...
On 4/1/09, bruce wrote: > > Hi guys... > > I know this isn't the list for this question.. but i'm trying to get a > quick > resolve for a problem i have.. i'm prety sure it's user related. > > i'm doing a curl to a site, and not getting the results i'm looking for.. > i've got the cookies/user-agent set.. i'm looking to talk to someone > offlist > about what i'm doing, and what i get.. to see if you/they get the same > thing... > > so.. if there's anyone here, who's skilled with curl/cookies/user-agent, > etc... and you're up to looking at my issue, let me know! > > thanks > > ps.. the curl mailing list hasn't replied as of yet.. > I didn't see your post to the curl list... perhaps you had technical difficulties? I find Dan is very responsive. -- -jp A man doesn't automatically get my respect. He has to get down in the dirt and beg for it. deepthoughtsbyjackhandey.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Error in starting "wine file" in x86_64 FC10 env
First the following errors are logged in dmesg: [ 31.891848] mtrr: base(0xc000) is not aligned on a size(0xff0) boundary [ 32.343580] Xorg:3090 conflicting memory types c000-cff0 uncached<->uncached-minus [ 32.343585] reserve_memtype failed 0xc000-0xcff0, track uncached, req write-back [ 32.344431] Xorg:3090 conflicting memory types fd00-fe00 uncached<->uncached-minus [ 32.344434] reserve_memtype failed 0xfd00-0xfe00, track uncached, req write-back [ 32.847537] Xorg:3090 conflicting memory types c000-cff0 uncached<->uncached-minus [ 32.847541] reserve_memtype failed 0xc000-0xcff0, track uncached, req write-back [ 32.848203] Xorg:3090 conflicting memory types fd00-fe00 uncached<->uncached-minus [ 32.848205] reserve_memtype failed 0xfd00-0xfe00, track uncached, req write-back [ 32.920406] Xorg:3090 conflicting memory types c000-cff0 uncached<->uncached-minus [ 32.920412] reserve_memtype failed 0xc000-0xcff0, track uncached, req write-back [ 32.921277] Xorg:3090 conflicting memory types fd00-fe00 uncached<->uncached-minus [ 32.921281] reserve_memtype failed 0xfd00-0xfe00, track uncached, req write-back [ 32.934457] Xorg:3094 freeing invalid memtype c000-cff0 [ 32.934672] Xorg:3094 freeing invalid memtype fd00-fe00 [ 32.980551] Xorg:3090 conflicting memory types c000-cff0 uncached<->uncached-minus [ 32.980556] reserve_memtype failed 0xc000-0xcff0, track uncached, req write-back [ 32.981326] Xorg:3090 conflicting memory types fd00-fe00 uncached<->uncached-minus [ 32.981329] reserve_memtype failed 0xfd00-0xfe00, track uncached, req write-back [ 32.993372] Xorg:3095 freeing invalid memtype c000-cff0 [ 32.993635] Xorg:3095 freeing invalid memtype fd00-fe00 After I click "wine file" nothing appear, and similarly any of the WINE GUI menu item as well Some useful info: X.Org X Server 1.5.3 Release Date: 5 November 2008 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.18-92.1.18.el5 x86_64 Current Operating System: Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.29 #39 SMP Tue Mar 31 01:05:51 EDT 2009 x86_64 Build Date: 11 December 2008 05:27:30PM Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.5.3-6.fc10 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Thu Apr 2 19:49:39 2009 (EE) Unable to locate/open config file (II) Loader magic: 0x7aec60 (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 X.Org Video Driver: 4.1 X.Org XInput driver : 2.1 X.Org Server Extension : 1.1 X.Org Font Renderer : 0.6 (II) Loader running on linux (++) using VT number 1 (--) PCI:*(0...@1:0:0) nVidia Corporation GeForce 8500 GT rev 161, Mem @ 0xfd00/16777216, 0xc000/268435456, 0xfa00/33554432, I/O @ 0x9c00/128, BIOS @ 0x/131072 (==) Matched nv for the autoconfigured driver New driver is "nv" (==) Using default built-in configuration (30 lines) Any other information needed? -- Regards, Peter Teoh -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: "docbook-utils-pdf" versus "xmlto" for docbook -> PDF
Robert P. J. Day wrote: > it's been a while since i've rendered docbook files into PDF, and i > always used a combination of xmlto and a FOP processor of some kind. > can someone in the know explain the differences in the approaches > between using xmlto, and using the docbook-utils-pdf package? are > these things now ready to go out of the box because, if memory serves, > they used to have some pretty rough edges. Publican is the tool developed by Red Hat that Fedora documentation team uses. It is available in the repo but if you need more details, you will have to ask in fedora-docs list. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: dnsmasq configuration
On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 17:37 +1100, Simon Slater wrote: > netstat -antuevp > > Now this shows that dnsmasq is using 192.168.122.1:53 with tcp and > udp. > This is the link local address on a port for dns. Also udp on > 0.0.0.0:67 which is one of the dhcp ports but for all networks? 0.0.0.0 means different things in different circumstances. In this case, yes, it means it's listening to port 67 on any and all interfaces that computer has alive. > Does dnsmasq need to use 192.168.122.1? No idea, though I'd be surprised if it did. What do you want it to use? For what it's worth, I don't use dnsmasq, I use the BIND DNS server, and the ISC DHCP server (Fedora has packages for both), and integrate them together. I know the processes for DNS and DHCP serving, but not the specifics to making dnsmasq do them. > The first aim is to get dhcp going. Would 0.0.0.0:67 help or get in > the way? In what way do you mean "0.0.0.0:67"? If you're setting up your modem/router to be just a modem, and let the PC do the rest, then you want configure your DHCP server to only service your LAN. You don't want it trying to assign addresses out to the ISP. You should probably find how to configure it to only bind to the LAN interface. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.19-78.2.30.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Another basic networking question.
Tim: >> That depends on how you're using the modem/router. If you're using it >> just as a modem, it's the computer network interface that gets assigned >> the internet address, and the computer does the authentication (if any). >> If you're using it as a router, the router's WAN interface deals with >> the ISP. Simon Slater: > This explains some of the inconsistencies that I've been seeing. So > I'll settle on using it just as a modem and the computer for connecting > until I finish tweaking the rest of the setup. If you have more than one computer, it's typically easier to let the modem/router handle the connection to the ISP, and be the interconnection point between all the PCs on the LAN. But if you want flexibility in firewall management, then using a PC lets you do anything that you can figure out, whereas many modem/routers have a very limited set of options. And from the point of view of getting technical support from an ISP, if you have troubles with the internet side of things, they're probably more willing, and able, to help you with your modem/router than Linux. > I'll try again now I understand a bit more. To configure the Linksys > AG300, which is physically connected to eth0, I point a browser to > 192.168.1.1 (by default, but this can be changed) and configure whatever > I need to. When I use the computer to connect to the ISP via the same > eth0 and the ISP assigns me (at the moment) 210.84.25.73. Does this > mean that I cannot configure the router because the ip's are now on > different subnets? Then again, if used just as a modem, no real > configuration is needed? Another "it depends" answer... Your modem might still respond to 192.168.1.1, to let you configure it, even you set it to act just as a modem (otherwise you'd have to hit the big reset button to reconfigure it, or have some other interface to the modem - like a serial port). There would still be some configuration options for it just to act as a modem (telephony related, perhaps some user controls), though the data side of things would be handled by the PC (ppp logon, etc.). >> If the computer is directly connected, it has to do all the firewalling, >> and sharing the internet with other computers. If you have a router in >> between, it handles all the networking, and you don't have to have any >> particular computers on to use the network. > I do want this computer to most of the work. Then you probably do want to use the modem/router as just a modem. But that's not a hard and fast rule. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.19-78.2.30.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: RPM security (a newbie question)
On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 10:12 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > if you want to be safe, you should only use code you have > written/inspected yourself, compiled on a compiler that you > have written yourself. And that includes the OS, too. Real programmers compile on paper, and tap in the hex... ;-) -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.19-78.2.30.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: RPM security (a newbie question)
Tim wrote: > On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 10:12 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: >> if you want to be safe, you should only use code you have >> written/inspected yourself, compiled on a compiler that you >> have written yourself. > > And that includes the OS, too. > Definitely! > Real programmers compile on paper, and tap in the hex... ;-) > Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. :-) It is even more fun to toggle in the binary. That way, you do not have to trust a boot ROM. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Another basic networking question.
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 17:19:34 +1100, Simon Slater wrote: > I need to. When I use the computer to connect to the ISP via the same > eth0 and the ISP assigns me (at the moment) 210.84.25.73. Does this > mean that I cannot configure the router because the ip's are now on > different subnets? Then again, if used just as a modem, no real > configuration is needed? It is possible to run multiple logical subnets over the same physical network. On the linux side the ip command allows you to define several networks on one interface. The old way of doing this was with the alias feature, but I don't know if the standard network or network manager configuration set ups easily support this. I usually just stick the ip commands in rc.local. That's not a great way to do things, but will do for now in my circumstances. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 3, 4 and 6 - Remote Upgrade Advice?
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 10:20:32 -0400, Mark Haney wrote: > Gabriel - IP Guys wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > Thank you for reading my message. I have to upgrade three linux boxes, > > that are FC3,4 and 6. Now, the problem that I have is that these > > machines have other services running on them, and I do not want to break > > anything. > > > > All three servers are in two collocation facilities, and I believe that > > the safest method, is to move all services off from the machines, and > > also remove all software to make the machines as stock as possible. I > > then plan to run yum upgrade a few times until I'm up to date with the > > repo, and then follow that with a yum upgrade - rinse, and repeat until > > I'm at FC8 - I'll wait until 11 is in beta before I move forward to FC9. > > I would appreciate any help or comments that you have. > > I'm not sure I would do 'yum upgrade'. But, with the systems being > remote I don't know what other options there are on systems that old. > I've got several systems I've upgraded (via media) from FC2 up to F9 > without trouble. Doing remote yum upgrades has a significant risk of leaving a machine in a state where it cannot reboot without intention. In particular some of the mkinitrd stuff doesn't work well when run under a kernel signicantly different then the one its building an initrd for. At the very least have a plan for what you are going to do if things go fubar during the updates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Interactive startup on F10. Pressing "I" doesn't work
On Thursday 02 April 2009 15:50:16 Alan Evans wrote: > Tim wrote: > > Alan Evans wrote: > >> It surely used to work. But I just confirmed it doesn't work now. > > > > Is any keypress having any effect? Things like USB keyboards aren't > > always available until some drivers are up and alive. > > I tested on my netbook, so the keyboard was part of the machine. As I > held down the key, a small row of letters were printed on the screen. > The key press is definitely being recognized by the system; it's just > not triggering the desired effect in the startup sequence. Did you try repeated, rapid taps on the 'i' until well into the second stage? That's the way I have done it in the past - it's the only way I could get it in at the right moment, and, as I said earlier, with these faster boots it will get ever more difficult. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Another basic networking question.
On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 10:16:33 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Thursday 02 April 2009 03:09:29 Ed Greshko wrote: > > Well I still feel that sometimes this list is over used for topics > > that can better be discussed elsewhere. > > The trouble with that argument is "Where is elsewhere?" This isn't an idle > question. I often give off-list help to very newbie users, and I'd love to > be > able to tell them that there is a list somewhere where they won't get a rude > answer for asking sensible and civil questions. I would suggest google is the first place to point them. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Fedora 3, 4 and 6 - Remote Upgrade Advice?
> -Original Message- > From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list- > boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Mark Haney > Sent: 02 April 2009 15:21 > To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. > Subject: Re: Fedora 3, 4 and 6 - Remote Upgrade Advice? > > Gabriel - IP Guys wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > Thank you for reading my message. I have to upgrade three linux > boxes, > > that are FC3,4 and 6. Now, the problem that I have is that these > > machines have other services running on them, and I do not want to > break > > anything. > > I'm not sure I would do 'yum upgrade'. But, with the systems being > remote I don't know what other options there are on systems that old. > I've got several systems I've upgraded (via media) from FC2 up to F9 > without trouble. I think the best thing for me to do, is to build an FC3 machine, and attempt to upgrade it - that may be the best option for me. At least I should get some results, and know that it can be done. I don't want to attempt a jump from FC3 to FC9, only to find that I really f'd up my systems. *excuse the language!* I think I'll have to remove mission critical stuff first, because I don't need the headache of restoring a system that I can't get to! But at least I know that I can try to do an upgrade from FC3 to FC9 - and it should work, at least via media. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: curl question...
Hmm JP... I registered with the curl-users list... never got'saw any traffic.. wasn't sure if I was registered, or if the list was up/running... Btw, managed to sove the cookies issue... thanks!! -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com]on Behalf Of Jake Peavy Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 8:26 AM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: curl question... On 4/1/09, bruce wrote: Hi guys... I know this isn't the list for this question.. but i'm trying to get a quick resolve for a problem i have.. i'm prety sure it's user related. i'm doing a curl to a site, and not getting the results i'm looking for.. i've got the cookies/user-agent set.. i'm looking to talk to someone offlist about what i'm doing, and what i get.. to see if you/they get the same thing... so.. if there's anyone here, who's skilled with curl/cookies/user-agent, etc... and you're up to looking at my issue, let me know! thanks ps.. the curl mailing list hasn't replied as of yet.. I didn't see your post to the curl list... perhaps you had technical difficulties? I find Dan is very responsive. -- -jp A man doesn't automatically get my respect. He has to get down in the dirt and beg for it. deepthoughtsbyjackhandey.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: using 'mv' instead of 'cp' to transfer directories to other partitions or disks
Cameron Simpson's response was like getting a complete tutorial! thanks very much! Jack -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Interactive startup on F10. Pressing "I" doesn't work
On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 17:24 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Thursday 02 April 2009 15:50:16 Alan Evans wrote: > > Tim wrote: > > > Alan Evans wrote: > > >> It surely used to work. But I just confirmed it doesn't work now. > > > > > > Is any keypress having any effect? Things like USB keyboards aren't > > > always available until some drivers are up and alive. > > > > I tested on my netbook, so the keyboard was part of the machine. As I > > held down the key, a small row of letters were printed on the screen. > > The key press is definitely being recognized by the system; it's just > > not triggering the desired effect in the startup sequence. > > Did you try repeated, rapid taps on the 'i' until well into the second stage? > > That's the way I have done it in the past - it's the only way I could get it > in at the right moment, and, as I said earlier, with these faster boots it > will get ever more difficult. I find that holding the keys down can be counter-productive. I suspect that the code discards the buffer contents before looking for a key press and that's why 'rapid taps' as Anne puts it seems to be the only method that works. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Fedora 3, 4 and 6 - Remote Upgrade Advice?
If you have access to some VMs (for testing), I would recommend using kickstart over yum. This is mostly for the initrd issue mentioned below. You make your installation media available over the network (http or nfs etc), grab the kernel and initrd from the CD (usually /isolinux/initrd.img and /isolinux/vmlinuz) then add a grub entry that looks something like: title FC kickstart root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz ip=192.168.0.1 gateway=192.168.0.0 dns=192.168.0.0 netmask=255.255.255.0 ksdevice=eth0 hostname=something ks=http://192.168.0.10/your_kickstart_file.ks keymap=uk initrd /initrd.img and host a kickstart file that looks like: url --url=http://192.168.0.10/FC9DVD/ network --device eth0 --bootproto static --ip 192.168.0.1 --netmask 255.255.255.0 --gateway 192.168.0.0 --nameserver 192.168.0.0 --hostname something upgrade Then reboot =) Check out the anaconda documentation but this method has worked like a charm in the past. > -Original Message- > From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com > [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Gabriel - IP Guys > Sent: 02 April 2009 17:29 > To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. > Subject: RE: Fedora 3, 4 and 6 - Remote Upgrade Advice? > > > > -Original Message- > > From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list- > > boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Mark Haney > > Sent: 02 April 2009 15:21 > > To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. > > Subject: Re: Fedora 3, 4 and 6 - Remote Upgrade Advice? > > > > Gabriel - IP Guys wrote: > > > Dear All, > > > > > > Thank you for reading my message. I have to upgrade three linux > > boxes, > > > that are FC3,4 and 6. Now, the problem that I have is that these > > > machines have other services running on them, and I do not want to > > break > > > anything. > > > > I'm not sure I would do 'yum upgrade'. But, with the systems being > > remote I don't know what other options there are on systems > that old. > > I've got several systems I've upgraded (via media) from FC2 up to F9 > > without trouble. > > I think the best thing for me to do, is to build an FC3 machine, and > attempt to upgrade it - that may be the best option for me. At least I > should get some results, and know that it can be done. I don't want to > attempt a jump from FC3 to FC9, only to find that I really f'd up my > systems. *excuse the language!* I think I'll have to remove mission > critical stuff first, because I don't need the headache of restoring a > system that I can't get to! But at least I know that I can > try to do an > upgrade from FC3 to FC9 - and it should work, at least via media. > > > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 3, 4 and 6 - Remote Upgrade Advice?
On Thursday 02 April 2009 09:20:32 am Mark Haney wrote: > Gabriel - IP Guys wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > Thank you for reading my message. I have to upgrade three linux boxes, > > that are FC3,4 and 6. Now, the problem that I have is that these > > machines have other services running on them, and I do not want to break > > anything. > > > > All three servers are in two collocation facilities, and I believe that > > the safest method, is to move all services off from the machines, and > > also remove all software to make the machines as stock as possible. I > > then plan to run yum upgrade a few times until I'm up to date with the > > repo, and then follow that with a yum upgrade - rinse, and repeat until > > I'm at FC8 - I'll wait until 11 is in beta before I move forward to FC9. > > I would appreciate any help or comments that you have. > > I'm not sure I would do 'yum upgrade'. But, with the systems being > remote I don't know what other options there are on systems that old. > I've got several systems I've upgraded (via media) from FC2 up to F9 > without trouble. you can setup grub with the initrd and kernel image from the installer. you will need to pass all the arguments that you need on the boot line to get to the point that you can connect via vnc. including password since you are going over the internet. then you could do an install using install media. I have done this in the past. you only get one shot at the install. especially if you do a clean install. Dennis -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: RPM security (a newbie question)
On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 10:12 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > Then again, if you want to be safe, you should only use code you > have written/inspected yourself, compiled on a compiler that you > have written yourself. After all, it was proven that you could imbed > code in the compiler that would be added to any program that you > compiled with it, and would not show up in the compiler source code. > (The compiler would add the code automatically when compiling itself.) Here's a link to Ken Thompson's "Reflections on trusting trust" which discusses these ideas: http://cm.bell-labs.com/who/ken/trust.html It's a short essay/talk and well worth the read. Regards, Bryn. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Fedora IRC Classroom open this weekend.
Just thought I would remind everyone that we are going to be holding some IRC Classes in the fedora classroom this weekend. Classes are held in #fedora-classroom on irc.freenode.net. Classes this weekend start at 10:00 UTC on both Saturday and Sunday. See: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom for more details. We have some great looking classes lined up this time! (We also still have open class slots for anyone who would like to sign up to teach this weekend). Also, we are always looking for teachers and suggestions for topics for new classes. See the above wiki page to add a suggestion or just reply to this email or mailing list thread. Hope to see a bunch of you there! kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Konqueror uses Adobe Reader rather than Okular...
Linuxguy123 wrote: > Yesterday I installed Adobe Reader because I needed to fill out an > interactive PDF form. > > Today when I view a PDF in Konqueror it is using Adobe Reader rather > than Okular. I want Konqueror to use Okular, not Adobe Reader. If I > open a PDF in Dolphin, it uses Okular. > > How do I set Konqueror to use Okular rather than Adobe Reader ? in kde, to set your mime preferences (ie, to set default apps): systemsettings , [advanced] tab -> File Associations, look application/pdf, and rank your app preferences there. Adobe must be doing some black magic, because okular should be preferred by default. -- Rex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Another basic networking question.
On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 11:08 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > It is possible to run multiple logical subnets over the same physical > network. On the linux side the ip command allows you to define several > networks on one interface. Though that makes it impossible to use one computer as a firewall to protect the others, since connections can be made *directly* between all computers, bypassing the firewall machine. You *need* separation between the wiring for firewalling. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.19-78.2.30.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Logwatch/Named ?
What does this mean? Obviously something happened once, good or bad, then what? - Named Begin Received control channel commands stop: 1 Time(s) **Unmatched Entries** max open files (1024) is smaller than max sockets (4096): 1 Time(s) the working directory is not writable: 1 Time(s) using default UDP/IPv4 port range: [1024, 65535]: 1 Time(s) using default UDP/IPv6 port range: [1024, 65535]: 1 Time(s) using up to 4096 sockets: 1 Time(s) -- Named End - Do I need to fix something? Bob . -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Konqueror uses Adobe Reader rather than Okular...
On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 12:36 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: > Linuxguy123 wrote: > > > Yesterday I installed Adobe Reader because I needed to fill out an > > interactive PDF form. > > > > Today when I view a PDF in Konqueror it is using Adobe Reader rather > > than Okular. I want Konqueror to use Okular, not Adobe Reader. If I > > open a PDF in Dolphin, it uses Okular. > > > > How do I set Konqueror to use Okular rather than Adobe Reader ? > > in kde, to set your mime preferences (ie, to set default apps): > systemsettings , [advanced] tab -> File Associations, > > look application/pdf, and rank your app preferences there. > > Adobe must be doing some black magic, because okular should be preferred by > default. Yeah, it must be. I was surprised too. Thanks for your help, Rex. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Logwatch/Named ?
Bob Goodwin wrote: > > What does this mean? Obviously something happened once, good or bad, > then what? > > - Named Begin > > > Received control channel commands >stop: 1 Time(s) > > **Unmatched Entries** >max open files (1024) is smaller than max sockets (4096): 1 Time(s) >the working directory is not writable: 1 Time(s) >using default UDP/IPv4 port range: [1024, 65535]: 1 Time(s) >using default UDP/IPv6 port range: [1024, 65535]: 1 Time(s) >using up to 4096 sockets: 1 Time(s) > > -- Named End - > > Do I need to fix something? > > Bob > > . > I see the same thing each time named is restarted. I don't think it's anything to worry about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Konqueror uses Adobe Reader rather than Okular...
On Thursday 02 April 2009 18:36:31 Rex Dieter wrote: > Linuxguy123 wrote: > > Yesterday I installed Adobe Reader because I needed to fill out an > > interactive PDF form. > > > > Today when I view a PDF in Konqueror it is using Adobe Reader rather > > than Okular. I want Konqueror to use Okular, not Adobe Reader. If I > > open a PDF in Dolphin, it uses Okular. > > > > How do I set Konqueror to use Okular rather than Adobe Reader ? > > in kde, to set your mime preferences (ie, to set default apps): > systemsettings , [advanced] tab -> File Associations, > > look application/pdf, and rank your app preferences there. > > Adobe must be doing some black magic, because okular should be preferred by > default. > If I open a file Okular is used. If I open an embedded pdf, that is, from a web link, I believe it is Evince that opens it - it's certainly not okular. I've checked SystemSettings, and on the embedded tab it tells me that they will be opened by okularpoppler. Something seems very wrong. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Misleading information
Look at this article: http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12958&Itemid=1 It describes what happened in 2008 but it's not clear from the title. I know that journalist can write whatever they want but this is misleading information which is not up to date. The title should be " *** got hacked in 2008". Maybe someone from the "higher ranks" should officially demand better clarification in this writing. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Konqueror uses Adobe Reader rather than Okular...
On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 19:13 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Thursday 02 April 2009 18:36:31 Rex Dieter wrote: > > Linuxguy123 wrote: > > > Yesterday I installed Adobe Reader because I needed to fill out an > > > interactive PDF form. > > > > > > Today when I view a PDF in Konqueror it is using Adobe Reader rather > > > than Okular. I want Konqueror to use Okular, not Adobe Reader. If I > > > open a PDF in Dolphin, it uses Okular. > > > > > > How do I set Konqueror to use Okular rather than Adobe Reader ? > > > > in kde, to set your mime preferences (ie, to set default apps): > > systemsettings , [advanced] tab -> File Associations, > > > > look application/pdf, and rank your app preferences there. > > > > Adobe must be doing some black magic, because okular should be preferred by > > default. > > > If I open a file Okular is used. If I open an embedded pdf, that is, from a > web link, I believe it is Evince that opens it - it's certainly not okular. > I've checked SystemSettings, and on the embedded tab it tells me that they > will be opened by okularpoppler. Something seems very wrong. that would likely be Firefox calling Evince and can be configured in Firefox Preferences or about:config, I forget which. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Konqueror uses Adobe Reader rather than Okular...
On Thursday 02 April 2009 10:13:36 am Linuxguy123 wrote: > Yesterday I installed Adobe Reader because I needed to fill out an > interactive PDF form. > > Today when I view a PDF in Konqueror it is using Adobe Reader rather > than Okular. I want Konqueror to use Okular, not Adobe Reader. If I > open a PDF in Dolphin, it uses Okular. > > How do I set Konqueror to use Okular rather than Adobe Reader ? > > Thanks Last i tried okular allowed me to fill in pdf forms. Dennis -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Misleading information
Joshua C. wrote: > Look at this article: > http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12958&Itemid=1 > > It describes what happened in 2008 but it's not clear from the title. > I know that journalist can write whatever they want but this is > misleading information which is not up to date. The title should be " > *** got hacked in 2008". Maybe someone from the "higher ranks" should > officially demand better clarification in this writing. "The hacker got access to the Fedora package signing key and used this to create modified versions of OpenSSH and RPM that would allow access to user passphrases on the build system to secure the package signing key." All that is completely wrong as well. The reference to OpenSSH might be a confusion with the Red Hat intrusion but the reference to RPM is just totally made up. CC'ing Paul Frields. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Virtual Box
On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 16:08 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote: > Beware VirtualBox and USB access. It's flaky at best. I tried using > an > XP guest in VirtualBox to access an iTouch device and it "kinda" > worked > but would often throw usb errors which would stop my sync between > iTunes > and the iTouch. I second that. Although I like VBox (for a while there it would run on the latest kernels when VMware wouldn't) I've never got it to work with my iPod, Palm or Nokia E65. I enable the appropriate USB paths, but the devices simply don't appear in the virtual XP machine. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Konqueror uses Adobe Reader rather than Okular...
On Thursday 02 April 2009 19:23:49 Craig White wrote: > > If I open a file Okular is used. If I open an embedded pdf, that is, > > from a web link, I believe it is Evince that opens it - it's certainly > > not okular. I've checked SystemSettings, and on the embedded tab it tells > > me that they will be opened by okularpoppler. Something seems very > > wrong. > > > that would likely be Firefox calling Evince and can be configured in > Firefox Preferences or about:config, I forget which. That sounds likely - I hadn't thought of FF overriding KDE settings. All that remains is to find the setting, which so far I haven't managed to do. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Virtual Box
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2009-03-27 at 16:08 -0500, Kevin Martin wrote: > >> Beware VirtualBox and USB access. It's flaky at best. I tried using >> an >> XP guest in VirtualBox to access an iTouch device and it "kinda" >> worked >> but would often throw usb errors which would stop my sync between >> iTunes >> and the iTouch. >> > > I second that. Although I like VBox (for a while there it would run on > the latest kernels when VMware wouldn't) I've never got it to work with > my iPod, Palm or Nokia E65. I enable the appropriate USB paths, but the > devices simply don't appear in the virtual XP machine. > > poc > > I had that same issue for awhile until I added the line: none /proc/bus/usb usbfs devgid=503,devmode=664 0 0 to my /etc/fstab file and then made sure my username was in the group #503. Once I did that and bounced the box I could at least "see" the USB devices. After that flakiness lived on but otherwise Kevin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Konqueror uses Adobe Reader rather than Okular...
Anne Wilson wrote: > On Thursday 02 April 2009 19:23:49 Craig White wrote: >> > If I open a file Okular is used. If I open an embedded pdf, that is, >> > from a web link, I believe it is Evince that opens it - it's certainly >> > not okular. I've checked SystemSettings, and on the embedded tab it >> > tells me that they will be opened by okularpoppler. Something seems >> > very wrong. >> >> >> that would likely be Firefox calling Evince and can be configured in >> Firefox Preferences or about:config, I forget which. > > That sounds likely - I hadn't thought of FF overriding KDE settings. All > that remains is to find the setting, which so far I haven't managed to do. We could and should fix that by manually specifying mime prefs in /usr/share/kde-settings/kde-profile/default/share/applications/mimeapps.list and possibly provide a defaults.list for legacy apps not supporting mimeapps.list (akin to fedora's/gnome's default /usr/share/applications/defaults.list). It's nice that kde "just works' and gets things right, but shoe-horning other toolkits is (and will be) more work. -- Rex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Logwatch/Named ?
Steven Stern wrote: Bob Goodwin wrote: What does this mean? Obviously something happened once, good or bad, then what? - Named Begin Received control channel commands stop: 1 Time(s) **Unmatched Entries** max open files (1024) is smaller than max sockets (4096): 1 Time(s) the working directory is not writable: 1 Time(s) using default UDP/IPv4 port range: [1024, 65535]: 1 Time(s) using default UDP/IPv6 port range: [1024, 65535]: 1 Time(s) using up to 4096 sockets: 1 Time(s) -- Named End - Do I need to fix something? Bob . I see the same thing each time named is restarted. I don't think it's anything to worry about. Ok, thanks. There's some comfort in knowing I'm not alone ... Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Interactive startup on F10. Pressing "I" doesn't work
Craig White wrote: > I find that holding the keys down can be counter-productive. I suspect > that the code discards the buffer contents before looking for a key > press and that's why 'rapid taps' as Anne puts it seems to be the only > method that works. I would have thought that the key-repeat wouldn't differ functionally from rapidly tapping the key. Anyway, it turns out that I can, in fact, interrupt the boot, both by rapid tapping and by holding down the key. I tried both several times and I think there is little difference -- either successfully interrupt the boot sequence what seems like less than half the time. Perhaps interesting: holding the key down seems to make the boot process loop back to the "Press 'I' for interactive startup" again. I'm not kidding, and I've done it several times. I press as soon as I see the instruction to do so and hold the key down while booting proceeds through "Starting udev" and eventually to "Enabling swaps" and "Entering interactive startup." Then the next line says "Welcome to Omega"[1] followed by "Press 'i' for interactive startup." Then "Starting udev" again on the next line and so on. [1] - I don't think Omega is any different than Fedora proper WRT system bootup. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Problems with Fedora 9 & Flash 10
Hi, I don't seem to be able to use Flash 10 on Fedora 9. The plugin come automatically after I've added the Adobe repository rpm to yum. The version installed is flash-plugin-10.0.22.87-release Basically the window of the player never shows up (tried with youtube, bbc iplayer). I've tried removing the libflashsupport but nothing has changed. Does anybody know how to debug that? Cheers -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problems with Fedora 9 & Flash 10
Andrea wrote: > Hi, > > I don't seem to be able to use Flash 10 on Fedora 9. > > The plugin come automatically after I've added the Adobe repository rpm to > yum. > The version installed is > > flash-plugin-10.0.22.87-release > > Basically the window of the player never shows up (tried with youtube, bbc > iplayer). > > I've tried removing the libflashsupport but nothing has changed. > > Does anybody know how to debug that? > > Cheers > Forgot to say that the previous version (Flash 9) worked fine. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problems with Fedora 9 & Flash 10
On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 22:18 +0100, Andrea wrote: > Andrea wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I don't seem to be able to use Flash 10 on Fedora 9. > > > > The plugin come automatically after I've added the Adobe repository rpm to > > yum. > > The version installed is > > > > flash-plugin-10.0.22.87-release > > > > Basically the window of the player never shows up (tried with youtube, bbc > > iplayer). > > > > I've tried removing the libflashsupport but nothing has changed. > > > > Does anybody know how to debug that? > > > > Cheers > > > Forgot to say that the previous version (Flash 9) worked fine. make sure that... 1 - you've quit ALL running copies of Firefox 2 - you can manually register the plugin with... mozilla-plugin-config -i mozilla-plugin-config --help # for info 3 - libflashsupport is for flash audio with F9 & pulseaudio debug, might be easiest to start firefox from command line... Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Interactive startup on F10. Pressing "I" doesn't work
On Thursday 02 April 2009 22:38, Alan Evans wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > I find that holding the keys down can be counter-productive. I suspect > > that the code discards the buffer contents before looking for a key > > press and that's why 'rapid taps' as Anne puts it seems to be the only > > method that works. > > I would have thought that the key-repeat wouldn't differ functionally > from rapidly tapping the key. > > Anyway, it turns out that I can, in fact, interrupt the boot, both by > rapid tapping and by holding down the key. I tried both several times > and I think there is little difference -- either successfully > interrupt the boot sequence what seems like less than half the time. > > Perhaps interesting: holding the key down seems to make the boot > process loop back to the "Press 'I' for interactive startup" again. > I'm not kidding, and I've done it several times. I press as soon > as I see the instruction to do so and hold the key down while booting > proceeds through "Starting udev" and eventually to "Enabling swaps" > and "Entering interactive startup." Then the next line says "Welcome > to Omega"[1] followed by "Press 'i' for interactive startup." Then > "Starting udev" again on the next line and so on. > > [1] - I don't think Omega is any different than Fedora proper WRT system > bootup. Hi Alan. Are you trying this on F10, because I can't get into interactive startup on it. On F8, only one press of the i key is necessary. On F9 one press does not work, and multiple presses are needed. On F9 it's all a bit hit and miss. Rapid presses of the i key may work, sometimes a bit of delay inbetween keypresses work. As I say, on F9 it's a bit hit and miss. On F10, I can't get into interactive startup at all. As I said on an earlier post, getting into interactive startup is becoming more and more difficult. F8, and earlier are ok. F9, you have do multiple tries, but eventually get there. F10, from my personal experience, is impossible. It's really weird as all the /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit scripts on F8, F9, and F10, appear to be identical. There has to be some easy fix here so that we can enter interactive startup in F10. Perhaps it's time to ask on the Fedora devel list. Nigel. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problems with Fedora 9 & Flash 10
Craig White wrote: > On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 22:18 +0100, Andrea wrote: >> Andrea wrote: >> Forgot to say that the previous version (Flash 9) worked fine. > > make sure that... > > 1 - you've quit ALL running copies of Firefox > 2 - you can manually register the plugin with... > mozilla-plugin-config -i > mozilla-plugin-config --help # for info > 3 - libflashsupport is for flash audio with F9 & pulseaudio > > debug, might be easiest to start firefox from command line... > > Craig > > I can see the flash plugin in the page "about:plugins" where do I find mozilla-plugin-config? I don't have it. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problems with Fedora 9 & Flash 10
Craig White wrote: > On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 22:18 +0100, Andrea wrote: > make sure that... > > 1 - you've quit ALL running copies of Firefox > 2 - you can manually register the plugin with... > mozilla-plugin-config -i > mozilla-plugin-config --help # for info > 3 - libflashsupport is for flash audio with F9 & pulseaudio > > debug, might be easiest to start firefox from command line... > > Craig > > I've found it in nspluginwrapper >mozilla-plugin-config -i (NO OUTPUT) >mozilla-plugin-config -c (NO OUTPUT) >mozilla-plugin-config -l EXCLUDE_WRAP: libtotem* libjavaplugin* gecko-mediaplayer* mplayerplug-in* librhythmbox* EXCLUDE_LINK: File/Link /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins-wrapped/mplayerplug-in.xpt File/Link /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins-wrapped/mplayerplug-in-wmp.xpt File/Link /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins-wrapped/mplayerplug-in-qt.so File/Link /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins-wrapped/mplayerplug-in-rm.so File/Link /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins-wrapped/mplayerplug-in-rm.xpt /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins-wrapped/nswrapper_32_32.mozplugger.so Original plugin: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/mozplugger.so Wrapper version string: X (1.3.0) File/Link /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins-wrapped/mplayerplug-in-qt.xpt File/Link /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins-wrapped/libjavaplugin.so File/Link /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins-wrapped/mplayerplug-in.so File/Link /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins-wrapped/mplayerplug-in-dvx.xpt File/Link /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins-wrapped/mplayerplug-in-dvx.so File/Link /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins-wrapped/mplayerplug-in-wmp.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins-wrapped/nswrapper_32_32.libflashplayer.so Original plugin: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so Wrapper version string: X (1.3.0) Then, if I run firefox from the command line I get some errors when I go to bbc iplayer page (not sure where they come from though) *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** ERROR: NPClass::Invalidate() invoke: Broken pipe *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** WARNING:(../src/npw-wrapper.c:1858):invoke_NPP_Destroy: assertion failed: (rpc_method_invoke_possible(plugin->connection)) [and...@thinkpad bin]$ firefox *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** ERROR: NP_Shutdown() invoke: Broken pipe *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** WARNING:(../src/npw-wrapper.c:1977):invoke_NPP_GetValue: assertion failed: (rpc_method_invoke_possible(plugin->connection)) *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** WARNING: unhandled variable 11 in NPP_GetValue() *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** WARNING:(../src/npw-wrapper.c:1858):invoke_NPP_Destroy: assertion failed: (rpc_method_invoke_possible(plugin->connection)) And I see the flash window for a second (with the central circle), but then it becomes grey and it's over. Any idea? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problems with Fedora 9 & Flash 10
On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 22:47 +0100, Andrea wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 22:18 +0100, Andrea wrote: > >> Andrea wrote: > >> Forgot to say that the previous version (Flash 9) worked fine. > > > > make sure that... > > > > 1 - you've quit ALL running copies of Firefox > > 2 - you can manually register the plugin with... > > mozilla-plugin-config -i > > mozilla-plugin-config --help # for info > > 3 - libflashsupport is for flash audio with F9 & pulseaudio > > > > debug, might be easiest to start firefox from command line... > > > > Craig > > > > > > I can see the flash plugin in the page "about:plugins" > > where do I find mozilla-plugin-config? I don't have it. if you see it, it should work. Is the one listed, the version you updated? yum provides /usr/bin/mozilla-plugin-config Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Fedora Seamonkey issues
When pushing updates for seamonkey, it would be really good not to do the upgrade while there is a SM browser present, as it messes things up in the running browser. Found that out the hard way, the "change font size" shortcut stops working, and since my default font is for use with a 32 inch HDMI display, that's a instant eyestrain. Also, SM-2.0beta is getting really useful, and perhaps someone would make a package for that. I have some notes on how I install it and upgrade it manually, if someone needs them. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Interactive startup on F10. Pressing "I" doesn't work
Nigel Henry wrote: > Hi Alan. Hi. > Are you trying this on F10, because I can't get into interactive startup on > it. I'm using the Omega spin, which didn't exist before F10, so yes. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Interactive startup on F10. Pressing "I" doesn't work
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Nigel Henry wrote: > On F9 I had to press the "I" a few times to enter interactive startup, on > earlier Fedora versions only one press is necessary, but on F10, I can't get > into interactive startup at all. > > I have seen this problem for F10 discussed before, but no resolutions. > > Does anyone know how to enter the interactive startup/bootup on F10? > > Nigel. ___ As soon as the message appears to press 'i', keep pressing repeatedly. The boot will go on to check, and mount the file systems and just after the message "Enabling /etc/fstab swaps: [OK]" one is asked whether to go into interactive mode or not. It all happens in the same screen. Don't stop pressing the "i" until you're asked the question to enter 'Y". The current approach is not practical, there should be a custom timeout to give time to press 'i". ~af -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
