Re: little round stickers for cd's

2009-04-03 Thread Nicu Buculei

brian hurren wrote:
have we got any designs for any of those little round stickers that you 
put on to dvd, cd ect.


For F11 not yet, since they will have to fir somehow the rest of the 
theme, probably using the pattern proposed my Mo (the CD art has to be 
simple, for cost effective mass replication)


The general style of the disk desigh should follow 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt


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Re: Extra Backgrounds package

2009-04-03 Thread Nicu Buculei

Marek Mahut wrote:

Dear art team,

We will be releasing Fedora Astronomy spin this release and I'd like to 
include also an extra wallpapers with it - is the extra backgrounds 
package ready? If not, is it OK with you to create astronomy-backgrounds 


As far as I know, we don't have such a package in the work and won't 
have it in the near future.



package and merge it once we have extra backgrounds?


Yup, that seems the most effective way forward: create an 
astronomy-backgrounds and later if we will have more will decide if and 
how to merge.
Personally I think it may be better to have a number of smaller 
additional wallpaper packages instead of a single huge one.



Thank you,

http://www.spacetelescope.org/images/html/heic0601a.html
http://www.spacetelescope.org/images/html/heic0508e.html




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Re: little round stickers for cd's

2009-04-03 Thread susmit shannigrahi

 For F11 not yet, since they will have to fir somehow the rest of the theme,
 probably using the pattern proposed my Mo (the CD art has to be simple, for
 cost effective mass replication)

I am working on CD label as usual. :)


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Introduction

2009-04-03 Thread Janari
Hello,
I'm Janari from Estonia. I have designed about 5 (five) years now. I have
designed logos, banners, web graphics, web layouts, and icons for for
example web. My main focus has been websites but i'm capable of designing
different interfaces also. I have also designed few cd covers for bands and
for my own music list.
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Re: Introduction

2009-04-03 Thread Nicu Buculei

Janari wrote:

Hello,


Hi Janari and welcome!

I'm Janari from Estonia. I have designed about 5 (five) years now. I 
have designed logos, banners, web graphics, web layouts, and icons for 
for example web. My main focus has been websites but i'm capable of 
designing different interfaces also. I have also designed few cd covers 
for bands and for my own music list.


We have a few open requests for things like banners and logos, have a 
look to see if you are interested in something: 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService


Can you tell more about you, like what are your favourite graphic 
applications ir if you have some works online?


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F11 Art Schedule

2009-04-03 Thread John Poelstra

Hi,

Back in January I met with Mairin and others at FUDCon to plot the art 
schedule for Fedora 11.  As a casual reader of the list I know some 
things are still in flux and have changed and in some ways that is 
expected and good.  It seems that because the wallpaper was in beta you 
received feedback in time to change course.  Maybe we should build a 
feedback period into the Fedora 12 schedule?


We've learned in past releases that it helps to keep track of how things 
go (in reality) compared to the estimated schedule so that the estimated 
schedule for the next release is more realistic and achievable.


With that in mind, looking at the splash screen tasks listed in the link 
below I thought it would be a good idea to record what their completion 
dates were ore when you estimate they will be complete:

http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-11/f-11-art-tasks.html
(task numbers 10 to 21)

It is also important to note that we are targeting the completion of 
final artwork and packaging a little less than two weeks from now on 
2009-04-16 so that it can all be in the Preview Release and have two 
weeks to shake out anything that needs final fixing before GA.


Thanks,
John


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Re: Fedora Mascot

2009-04-03 Thread Ashiqur Rahman Angel
2009/4/2 Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com


 A mascot would be brand diluting at this point, so my inclination is
 against having one.


I disagree with you.. most cases our brand is symbolized with our logo  our
Trademark name.. mascot is just for familiarizing our product line...

We can have different icon for each of our product line or we can have
different mascot for our product line...

Brand is something else it can not be disillusioned by mascot

No wonder people don't know much about our Fedora code Name while everyone
you ask knows the Code name of Ubuntu even better... (like jaunty hardy
gutsy etc...), believe it or not, it´s true. Because, Ubuntu make the Code
name their  mascot.

However, I'm sure large part of Fedora Community people will think of
these as threat to our brand Name Fedora.


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Fedora 11 countdown banner (artwork team release)

2009-04-03 Thread Paolo Leoni
In the past days some people have requested a F11 countdown banner for a
blog using.

So, below you can find a proposal:

https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/b/b7/Deepsky-fedora11-countdown-banner_1a.png
https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/0/00/Deepsky-fedora11-countdown-banner_1a.svg

The original background image was downloaded from here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonythemisfit/3387589463/sizes/o/

License seems to be ok for Fedora.

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[PATCH 1/8] Allow ignoring of group metadata from repos.

2009-04-03 Thread Bill Nottingham

Signed-off-by: Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com
---
 src/pypungi/__init__.py |2 ++
 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)

diff --git a/src/pypungi/__init__.py b/src/pypungi/__init__.py
index e084054..cc3928f 100644
--- a/src/pypungi/__init__.py
+++ b/src/pypungi/__init__.py
@@ -201,6 +201,8 @@ class Pungi(pypungi.PungiBase):
 thisrepo.includepkgs = repo.includepkgs
 if repo.cost:
 thisrepo.cost = repo.cost
+if repo.ignoregroups:
+thisrepo.enablegroups = 0
 self.ayum.repos.add(thisrepo)
 self.ayum.repos.enableRepo(thisrepo.id)
 self.ayum._getRepos(thisrepo=thisrepo.id, doSetup = True)
-- 
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[PATCH 2/8] Operate on source rpm package objects, not a list that is then turned into package objects.

2009-04-03 Thread Bill Nottingham

Signed-off-by: Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com
---
 src/pypungi/__init__.py |   36 +++-
 1 files changed, 19 insertions(+), 17 deletions(-)

diff --git a/src/pypungi/__init__.py b/src/pypungi/__init__.py
index cc3928f..2590775 100644
--- a/src/pypungi/__init__.py
+++ b/src/pypungi/__init__.py
@@ -133,7 +133,7 @@ class Pungi(pypungi.PungiBase):
 
 self.ksparser = ksparser
 self.polist = []
-self.srpmlist = []
+self.srpmpolist = []
 self.debuginfolist = []
 self.resolved_deps = {} # list the deps we've already resolved, short 
circuit.
 
@@ -396,15 +396,29 @@ class Pungi(pypungi.PungiBase):
 self.polist = final_pkgobjs.keys()
 self.logger.info('Finished gathering package objects.')
 
+def getSRPMPo(self, po):
+Given a package object, get a package object for the
+   corresponding source rpm. Requires yum still configured
+   and a valid package object.
+srpm = po.sourcerpm.split('.src.rpm')[0]
+(sname, sver, srel) = srpm.rsplit('-', 2)
+try:
+srpmpo = self.ayum.pkgSack.searchNevra(name=sname, ver=sver, 
rel=srel, arch='src')[0]
+return srpmpo
+except IndexError:
+print  sys.stderr, Error: Cannot find a source rpm for %s % 
srpm
+sys.exit(1)
+
 def getSRPMList(self):
 Cycle through the list of package objects and
find the sourcerpm for them.  Requires yum still
configured and a list of package objects
  
 for po in self.polist:
-srpm = po.sourcerpm.split('.src.rpm')[0]
-if not srpm in self.srpmlist:
-self.srpmlist.append(srpm)
+srpmpo = self.getSRPMPo(po)
+if not srpmpo in self.srpmpolist:
+self.logger.info(Adding source package %s.%s % (srpmpo.name, 
srpmpo.arch))
+self.srpmpolist.append(srpmpo)
 
 def getDebuginfoList(self):
 Cycle through the list of package objects and find
@@ -528,20 +542,8 @@ class Pungi(pypungi.PungiBase):
 Cycle through the list of srpms and
find the package objects for them, Then download them.
 
-srpmpolist = []
-
-for srpm in self.srpmlist:
-(sname, sver, srel) = srpm.rsplit('-', 2)
-try:
-srpmpo = self.ayum.pkgSack.searchNevra(name=sname, ver=sver, 
rel=srel, arch='src')[0]
-if not srpmpo in srpmpolist:
-srpmpolist.append(srpmpo)
-except IndexError:
-print  sys.stderr, Error: Cannot find a source rpm for %s 
% srpm
-sys.exit(1)
-
 # do the downloads
-self._downloadPackageList(srpmpolist, os.path.join('source', 'SRPMS'))
+self._downloadPackageList(self.srpmpolist, os.path.join('source', 
'SRPMS'))
 
 def downloadDebuginfo(self):
 Cycle through the list of debuginfo rpms and
-- 
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[PATCH 3/8] Resolve package build dependencies.

2009-04-03 Thread Bill Nottingham
Since each package we add for build dependencies may add a new source rpm
to our list, this needs to recurse.

Signed-off-by: Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com
---
 src/pypungi/__init__.py |   23 +++
 1 files changed, 23 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)

diff --git a/src/pypungi/__init__.py b/src/pypungi/__init__.py
index 2590775..3271f26 100644
--- a/src/pypungi/__init__.py
+++ b/src/pypungi/__init__.py
@@ -420,6 +420,29 @@ class Pungi(pypungi.PungiBase):
 self.logger.info(Adding source package %s.%s % (srpmpo.name, 
srpmpo.arch))
 self.srpmpolist.append(srpmpo)
 
+def resolvePackageBuildDeps(self):
+Make the package lists self hosting. Requires yum
+   still configured, a list of package objects, and a
+   a list of source rpms.
+for srpm in self.srpmpolist:
+self.ayum.tsInfo.addInstall(srpm)
+deppass = 1
+checked_srpms = []
+while 1:
+self.logger.info(Resolving build dependencies, pass %d % 
(deppass))
+prev = list(self.ayum.tsInfo.getMembers())
+for srpm in self.srpmpolist[len(checked_srpms):]:
+self.getPackageDeps(srpm)
+for txmbr in self.ayum.tsInfo:
+if txmbr.po.arch != 'src' and txmbr.po not in self.polist:
+self.polist.append(txmbr.po)
+# Now that we've resolved deps, refresh the source rpm list
+checked_srpms = list(self.srpmpolist)
+self.getSRPMList()
+deppass = deppass + 1
+if len(prev) == len(self.ayum.tsInfo.getMembers()):
+break
+
 def getDebuginfoList(self):
 Cycle through the list of package objects and find
debuginfo rpms for them.  Requires yum still
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[PATCH 4/8] Wire up a commandline option for selfhosting support.

2009-04-03 Thread Bill Nottingham

Signed-off-by: Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com
---
 src/bin/pungi.py |7 ++-
 1 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)

diff --git a/src/bin/pungi.py b/src/bin/pungi.py
index 7cc615c..9224713 100755
--- a/src/bin/pungi.py
+++ b/src/bin/pungi.py
@@ -86,13 +86,16 @@ def main():
 mypungi._inityum() # initialize the yum object for things that 
need it
 if opts.do_all or opts.do_gather:
 mypungi.getPackageObjects()
+if not opts.nosource or opts.selfhosting:
+mypungi.getSRPMList()
+if opts.selfhosting:
+mypungi.resolvePackageBuildDeps()
 mypungi.downloadPackages()
 mypungi.makeCompsFile()
 if not opts.nodebuginfo:
 mypungi.getDebuginfoList()
 mypungi.downloadDebuginfo()
 if not opts.nosource:
-mypungi.getSRPMList()
 mypungi.downloadSRPMs()
 
 if opts.do_all or opts.do_createrepo:
@@ -153,6 +156,8 @@ if __name__ == '__main__':
 parser.add_option(--bugurl, dest=bugurl, type=string,
   action=callback, callback=set_config, callback_args=(config, ),
   help='the url for your bug system (defaults to 
http://bugzilla.redhat.com)')
+parser.add_option(--selfhosting, action=store_true, 
dest=selfhosting,
+  help='build a self-hosting tree by following build dependencies 
(optional)')
 parser.add_option(--nosource, action=store_true, dest=nosource,
   help='disable gathering of source packages (optional)')
 parser.add_option(--nodebuginfo, action=store_true, 
dest=nodebuginfo,
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[PATCH 5/8] Remove obsolete code.

2009-04-03 Thread Bill Nottingham

Signed-off-by: Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com
---
 src/pypungi/__init__.py |2 --
 1 files changed, 0 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/src/pypungi/__init__.py b/src/pypungi/__init__.py
index 3271f26..bd57bf8 100644
--- a/src/pypungi/__init__.py
+++ b/src/pypungi/__init__.py
@@ -424,8 +424,6 @@ class Pungi(pypungi.PungiBase):
 Make the package lists self hosting. Requires yum
still configured, a list of package objects, and a
a list of source rpms.
-for srpm in self.srpmpolist:
-self.ayum.tsInfo.addInstall(srpm)
 deppass = 1
 checked_srpms = []
 while 1:
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[PATCH 6/8] Create dicts to map between source and binary packages.

2009-04-03 Thread Bill Nottingham
This avoids repeating the operation many times later if we do it
on demand each time.

Signed-off-by: Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com
---
 src/pypungi/__init__.py |   32 ++--
 1 files changed, 26 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)

diff --git a/src/pypungi/__init__.py b/src/pypungi/__init__.py
index bd57bf8..1d2734c 100644
--- a/src/pypungi/__init__.py
+++ b/src/pypungi/__init__.py
@@ -135,6 +135,9 @@ class Pungi(pypungi.PungiBase):
 self.polist = []
 self.srpmpolist = []
 self.debuginfolist = []
+self.srpms_build = []
+self.srpms_fulltree = []
+self.last_po = 0
 self.resolved_deps = {} # list the deps we've already resolved, short 
circuit.
 
 def _inityum(self):
@@ -409,33 +412,50 @@ class Pungi(pypungi.PungiBase):
 print  sys.stderr, Error: Cannot find a source rpm for %s % 
srpm
 sys.exit(1)
 
+def createSourceHashes(self):
+Create two dicts - one that maps binary POs to source POs, and
+   one that maps a single source PO to all binary POs it produces.
+   Requires yum still configured.
+self.src_by_bin = {}
+self.bin_by_src = {}
+self.logger.info(Generating source - binary package mappings)
+(dummy1, everything, dummy2) = 
yum.packages.parsePackages(self.ayum.pkgSack.returnPackages(), ['*'])
+for po in everything:
+if po.arch == 'src':
+continue
+srpmpo = self.getSRPMPo(po)
+self.src_by_bin[po] = srpmpo
+if self.bin_by_src.has_key(srpmpo):
+self.bin_by_src[srpmpo].append(po)
+else:
+self.bin_by_src[srpmpo] = [po]
+
 def getSRPMList(self):
 Cycle through the list of package objects and
find the sourcerpm for them.  Requires yum still
configured and a list of package objects
- 
-for po in self.polist:
-srpmpo = self.getSRPMPo(po)
+for po in self.polist[self.last_po:]:
+srpmpo = self.src_by_bin[po]
 if not srpmpo in self.srpmpolist:
 self.logger.info(Adding source package %s.%s % (srpmpo.name, 
srpmpo.arch))
 self.srpmpolist.append(srpmpo)
+self.last_po = len(self.polist)
 
 def resolvePackageBuildDeps(self):
 Make the package lists self hosting. Requires yum
still configured, a list of package objects, and a
a list of source rpms.
 deppass = 1
-checked_srpms = []
 while 1:
 self.logger.info(Resolving build dependencies, pass %d % 
(deppass))
 prev = list(self.ayum.tsInfo.getMembers())
-for srpm in self.srpmpolist[len(checked_srpms):]:
+for srpm in self.srpmpolist[len(self.srpms_build):]:
 self.getPackageDeps(srpm)
 for txmbr in self.ayum.tsInfo:
 if txmbr.po.arch != 'src' and txmbr.po not in self.polist:
 self.polist.append(txmbr.po)
+self.srpms_build = list(self.srpmpolist)
 # Now that we've resolved deps, refresh the source rpm list
-checked_srpms = list(self.srpmpolist)
 self.getSRPMList()
 deppass = deppass + 1
 if len(prev) == len(self.ayum.tsInfo.getMembers()):
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[PATCH 7/8] Add a method that completes the package set with all subpackages of currently used source rpms.

2009-04-03 Thread Bill Nottingham
In other places, this method could be called No Package Left Behind.

Signed-off-by: Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com
---
 src/pypungi/__init__.py |   26 ++
 1 files changed, 26 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)

diff --git a/src/pypungi/__init__.py b/src/pypungi/__init__.py
index 1d2734c..01d7b90 100644
--- a/src/pypungi/__init__.py
+++ b/src/pypungi/__init__.py
@@ -461,6 +461,32 @@ class Pungi(pypungi.PungiBase):
 if len(prev) == len(self.ayum.tsInfo.getMembers()):
 break
 
+def completePackageSet(self):
+Cycle through all package objects, and add any
+   that correspond to a source rpm that we are including.
+   Requires yum still configured and a list of package
+   objects.
+thepass = 1
+while 1:
+prevlen = len(self.srpmpolist)
+self.logger.info(Completing package set, pass %d % (thepass,))
+for srpm in self.srpmpolist[len(self.srpms_fulltree):]:
+for po in self.bin_by_src[srpm]:
+if po not in self.polist:
+self.logger.info(Adding %s.%s to complete package 
set % (po.name, po.arch))
+self.polist.append(po)
+self.getPackageDeps(po)
+for txmbr in self.ayum.tsInfo:
+if txmbr.po.arch != 'src' and txmbr.po not in self.polist:
+self.polist.append(txmbr.po)
+self.srpms_fulltree = list(self.srpmpolist)
+# Now that we've resolved deps, refresh the source rpm list
+self.getSRPMList()
+if len(self.srpmpolist) == prevlen:
+self.logger.info(Completion finished in %d passes % 
(thepass,))
+break
+thepass = thepass + 1
+
 def getDebuginfoList(self):
 Cycle through the list of package objects and find
debuginfo rpms for them.  Requires yum still
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[PATCH 8/8] Wire in support for composing 'full' trees with all subpackages.

2009-04-03 Thread Bill Nottingham
Since full trees and build-solved trees can affect each other, if we're
doing both we need to loop between them until there are no new packages
added.

Signed-off-by: Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com
---
 src/bin/pungi.py |   18 +-
 1 files changed, 17 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)

diff --git a/src/bin/pungi.py b/src/bin/pungi.py
index 9224713..eab54a6 100755
--- a/src/bin/pungi.py
+++ b/src/bin/pungi.py
@@ -86,10 +86,24 @@ def main():
 mypungi._inityum() # initialize the yum object for things that 
need it
 if opts.do_all or opts.do_gather:
 mypungi.getPackageObjects()
-if not opts.nosource or opts.selfhosting:
+if not opts.nosource or opts.selfhosting or opts.fulltree:
+mypungi.createSourceHashes()
 mypungi.getSRPMList()
 if opts.selfhosting:
 mypungi.resolvePackageBuildDeps()
+if opts.fulltree:
+mypungi.completePackageSet()
+if opts.selfhosting and opts.fulltree:
+# OUCH.
+while 1:
+plen = len(mypungi.srpmpolist)
+mypungi.resolvePackageBuildDeps()
+if plen == len(mypungi.srpmpolist):
+break
+plen = len(mypungi.srpmpolist)
+mypungi.completePackageSet()
+if plen == len(mypungi.srpmpolist):
+break
 mypungi.downloadPackages()
 mypungi.makeCompsFile()
 if not opts.nodebuginfo:
@@ -158,6 +172,8 @@ if __name__ == '__main__':
   help='the url for your bug system (defaults to 
http://bugzilla.redhat.com)')
 parser.add_option(--selfhosting, action=store_true, 
dest=selfhosting,
   help='build a self-hosting tree by following build dependencies 
(optional)')
+parser.add_option(--fulltree, action=store_true, dest=fulltree,
+  help='build a tree that includes all packages built from 
corresponding source rpms (optional)')
 parser.add_option(--nosource, action=store_true, dest=nosource,
   help='disable gathering of source packages (optional)')
 parser.add_option(--nodebuginfo, action=store_true, 
dest=nodebuginfo,
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[Bug 493814] New: spec file doesn't provide provides field

2009-04-03 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: spec file doesn't provide provides field

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=493814

   Summary: spec file doesn't provide provides field
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
  Platform: All
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
  Keywords: i18n
  Severity: medium
  Priority: low
 Component: smc-fonts
AssignedTo: psatp...@redhat.com
ReportedBy: psatp...@redhat.com
 QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com,
psatp...@redhat.com, rajeeshknamb...@gmail.com,
fedora-i18n-b...@redhat.com
Classification: Fedora
Target Release: ---


Description of problem:
spec file doesn't provide provides field, other packages trying to installing
with old name are failing due to this

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
smc-meera-fonts-04.1-5

How reproducible:
every time


Steps to Reproduce:
1.try installing smc-fonts-meera it will say package does not exist 
2.
3.

Actual results:
it says 

Expected results:
it should still install smc-meera-fonts package

Additional info:

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rpms/smc-fonts/devel smc-fonts.spec,1.6,1.7

2009-04-03 Thread Pravin Satpute
Author: pravins

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/smc-fonts/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv18272

Modified Files:
smc-fonts.spec 
Log Message:
* Fri Apr 03 2009 Pravin Satpute psatp...@redhat.com 04.1-6
- bugfix 493814
- added 'Provides' field for packages



Index: smc-fonts.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/smc-fonts/devel/smc-fonts.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.6
retrieving revision 1.7
diff -u -r1.6 -r1.7
--- smc-fonts.spec  26 Feb 2009 01:41:38 -  1.6
+++ smc-fonts.spec  3 Apr 2009 09:27:32 -   1.7
@@ -8,7 +8,7 @@
 
 Name:  %{fontname}-fonts
 Version:   04.1
-Release:   5%{?dist}
+Release:   6%{?dist}
 Summary:   Open Type Fonts for Malayalam script
 Group: User Interface/X
 License:   GPLv3+ with exceptions and GPLv2+ with exceptions and GPLv2+ 
and  GPLv2
@@ -34,6 +34,7 @@
 Group: User Interface/X 
 Requires: %{name}-common = %{version}-%{release}
 License: GPLv3+ with exceptions
+Provides: %{fontname}-fonts-dyuthi = %{version}-%{release}
 Obsoletes: %{name}-dyuthi  04.1-4
 %description -n %{fontname}-dyuthi-fonts
 The Dyuthi font package contains fonts for the display of
@@ -46,6 +47,7 @@
 Group: User Interface/X 
 Requires: %{name}-common = %{version}-%{release}
 License: GPLv2+ with exceptions
+Provides: %{fontname}-fonts-meera = %{version}-%{release}
 Obsoletes: %{name}-meera  04.1-4
 %description -n %{fontname}-meera-fonts
 The Meera font package contains fonts for the display of
@@ -59,6 +61,7 @@
 Group: User Interface/X 
 Requires: %{name}-common = %{version}-%{release}
 License: GPLv2+
+Provides: %{fontname}-fonts-rachana = %{version}-%{release}
 Obsoletes: %{name}-rachana  04.1-4
 %description -n %{fontname}-rachana-fonts
 The Rachana font package contains fonts for the display of
@@ -72,6 +75,7 @@
 Group: User Interface/X 
 Requires: %{name}-common = %{version}-%{release}
 License: GPLv2
+Provides: %{fontname}-fonts-raghumalayalam = %{version}-%{release}
 Obsoletes: %{name}-raghumalayalam  04.1-4
 %description -n %{fontname}-raghumalayalam-fonts
 The SMC Malayalam fonts package contains fonts for the display of
@@ -84,6 +88,7 @@
 Group: User Interface/X 
 Requires: %{name}-common = %{version}-%{release}
 License: GPLv3+ with exceptions
+Provides: %{fontname}-fonts-suruma = %{version}-%{release}
 Obsoletes: %{name}-suruma  04.1-4
 %description -n %{fontname}-suruma-fonts
 The Suruma font package contains fonts for the display of
@@ -96,6 +101,7 @@
 Group: User Interface/X
 Requires: %{name}-common = %{version}-%{release}
 License: GPLv3+ with exceptions
+Provides: %{fontname}-fonts-kalyani = %{version}-%{release}
 Obsoletes: %{name}-kalyani  04.1-4
 %description -n %{fontname}-kalyani-fonts
 The Kalyani font package contains fonts for the display of
@@ -108,6 +114,7 @@
 Group: User Interface/X
 Requires: %{name}-common = %{version}-%{release}
 License: GPLv3+ with exceptions
+Provides: %{fontname}-fonts-anjalioldlipi = %{version}-%{release}
 Obsoletes: %{name}-anjalioldlipi  04.1-4
 %description -n %{fontname}-anjalioldlipi-fonts
 The Anjali OldLipi package contains fonts for the display of
@@ -145,6 +152,10 @@
 %dir %{_fontdir}
 
 %changelog
+* Fri Apr 03 2009 Pravin Satpute psatp...@redhat.com 04.1-6
+- bugfix 493814
+- added 'Provides' field for packages
+
 * Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 04.1-5
 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
 

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[Bug 493814] spec file doesn't provide provides field

2009-04-03 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=493814


Pravin Satpute psatp...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
 Resolution||RAWHIDE




--- Comment #1 from Pravin Satpute psatp...@redhat.com  2009-04-03 05:35:04 
EDT ---
fixed in smc-fonts-04.1-6
i think it will be in tomorrow's rawhide

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[Bug 493814] spec file doesn't provide provides field

2009-04-03 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #2 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2009-04-03 
05:37:46 EDT ---
While you certainly have the option as maintainer to add Provides, you should
note that other fedora font packages did not add them and the maintainers of
packages depending on them just fixed their deps.

Which is the correct long-term fix anyway.

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[Bug 493814] spec file doesn't provide provides field

2009-04-03 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #3 from Pravin Satpute psatp...@redhat.com  2009-04-03 05:45:02 
EDT ---
see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=493792

I think we should keep it till f13 probably

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[Issue 96826] Add font autoinstallation support

2009-04-03 Thread cmc
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User cmc changed the following:

What|Old value |New value

OtherIssuesDependingOnTh|  |97765
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[Issue 96826] Add font autoinstallation support

2009-04-03 Thread nmailhot
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--- Additional comments from nmail...@openoffice.org Fri Apr  3 11:23:13 
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I think that OO.o is a big enough font users the people working on font
installations would be delighted to know its exact requirements to perfect
auto-installation. If it works for OO.o it will probably work for everyone else.

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[Bug 494046] New: updating fontconfig to rawhide then ANY font package causes gnome-terminal to segfault

2009-04-03 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: updating fontconfig to rawhide then ANY font package causes 
gnome-terminal to segfault

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494046

   Summary: updating fontconfig to rawhide then ANY font package
causes gnome-terminal to segfault
   Product: Fedora
   Version: 10
  Platform: All
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
  Severity: high
  Priority: high
 Component: fontconfig
AssignedTo: besfa...@redhat.com
ReportedBy: svi...@redhat.com
 QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: besfa...@redhat.com, fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com
Classification: Fedora
Target Release: ---


Description of problem:
fontconfig-2.6.0-3.fc10.i386
on an f10 i686 machine.

if I update fontconfig from f10 to rawhide: 2.6.99.behdad.20090318-1.fc11
and then update ANY font package Gnome-terminals segfault.

I've captured strace -p from the gnome-terminal process here:
http://sethdot.org/~skvidal/misc/gterm-strace.txt


I have a qemu img where I can duplicate this any time if more testing is
needed.

This is a big deal b/c it stops anyone from updating with yum from a
gnome-terminal from f10- rawhide/f11.

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[Bug 494092] New: Liberation fonts under GTK applications cannot render with antialiasing

2009-04-03 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: Liberation fonts under GTK applications cannot render with antialiasing

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494092

   Summary: Liberation fonts under GTK applications cannot render
with antialiasing
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
  Platform: All
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
  Severity: medium
  Priority: low
 Component: liberation-fonts
AssignedTo: ccha...@redhat.com
ReportedBy: hcey...@batoo.org
 QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: ccha...@redhat.com, fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com,
fedora-i18n-b...@redhat.com
Classification: Fedora


Description of problem:
I am using KDE. I can use liberation fonts just fine for KDE applications.
However for GTK applications fonts cannot render as antialiased. 

Here's a matrix of what combination works and what not:
GNOME + Liberation NO
KDE + Liberation OK
Under KDE GTK Apps + Liberation NO
Under KDE GTK Apps + Sans Serif / Monospace YES


Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
rawhide + F10

How reproducible:
Everytime

I really would like to use Liberation fonts as I favour them on any other ones.

Regards,
Hasan Ceylan

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Hi

2009-04-03 Thread Vinay Amatya
Hi All,

I'm Vinay. I got upto here while trying to fix my installation of Fedora-10.
I've been steady user of Fedora package for a little more than a year. I
like it better, as I learn more in Fedora environment than on other
platforms.
Regarding contributing to the Project, I'm a newbie. I'm interested in core
infrastructure development/maintainance.
I'm comfortable with C, C++, Java.  I'd like to learn Python, or Ruby, if I
get a project/task that makes me do it.

At this stage, I'd like to observe the kinds of problems
this(infrastructure) team handles, possibly learn some stuffs, and
contribute where possible.

Looking forward to working with you,
cheers,
Vinay
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Re: I wanna join the FIG

2009-04-03 Thread Mike McGrath
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009, guille wrote:

 Hi everybody, well this mail is to let you know about my enthusiasm to join 
 the FIG. About me, mi name is guillermo ( you
 can visit my profile for official details) im from Buenos Aires Argentine, im 
 26 years old and im in first year on
 Computer Science at Caece university, i have not a lot of free time, but 
 surely i will be a good help for the proyect

 Currently i have five years experience working with Linux especially over red 
 hat flavours, ain't me a great admin i'm
 not even a good admin, but also im sure this opportunity will be great for 
 improve my skills to reach be a great kick a**
 sysadmin, futhermore i have my own hardware test and i've subscribed to list 
 too!!! hehehe, i have medium knowledge on
 most of the linux ip protocols, same knowledge for perl/bash scripting and my 
 english is not very good as you can see.

 at the beginning i would like to apply on sysadmin - sysadmin-noc. you can 
 find me on the room as gu1ll3, gu1lle, guill3,
 so

 I guess thats all folks, with these references definitely i'll have a lot of 
 sponsers =P.

 Please any doubt about me or other stuff feel free to contact me, im really 
 excited to participate on the proyect


Well thanks for all the interest!  I tried finding you on IRC just now but
I don't see you on there, no worries.  Next time you are on
irc.freenode.net stop by #fedora-admin and say hello.  In the meantime go
ahead and apply for the 'sysadmin' group and email me when you've done so
so I can approve it.

-Mike

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Re: Hi

2009-04-03 Thread Mike McGrath
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009, Vinay Amatya wrote:

 Hi All,

 I'm Vinay. I got upto here while trying to fix my installation of Fedora-10. 
 I've been steady user of Fedora package for
 a little more than a year. I like it better, as I learn more in Fedora 
 environment than on other platforms.
 Regarding contributing to the Project, I'm a newbie. I'm interested in core 
 infrastructure development/maintainance.
 I'm comfortable with C, C++, Java.  I'd like to learn Python, or Ruby, if I 
 get a project/task that makes me do it.


Boy oh boy do we love programmers.  If you'd like to help I've got a few
smaller tasks that you could do while you get to learning python.  If you
want to go through some of the basic tutorials of python then install fas
come find me on irc.freenode.net in #fedora-admin and we'll talk about
some stuff.

 At this stage, I'd like to observe the kinds of problems this(infrastructure) 
 team handles, possibly learn some stuffs,
 and contribute where possible.


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[Way OT] Tiny Core Linux

2009-04-03 Thread john wendel


Stumbled across a reference to Tiny Core Linux on distrowatch, thought 
I'd give it a try. 10MB download (yes, I said 10MB). Burned a CD, 
booted, and it was running. Read the single page help, installed mplayer 
and OSS sound and in 2 minutes I was playing a video.


These guys have some unique ideas, and they're doing an excellent job of 
implementing them. If they can keep at it, in a year this will be a 
fantastic Linux distro. Give it a spin and prepare to be impressed.


No, it isn't better than Fedora, just really different. I like what 
they're doing.


http://www.tinycorelinux.com

Regards,

John

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Re: [Way OT] Tiny Core Linux

2009-04-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
john wendel wrote:
 
 Stumbled across a reference to Tiny Core Linux on distrowatch, thought
 I'd give it a try. 10MB download (yes, I said 10MB). Burned a CD,
 booted, and it was running. Read the single page help, installed mplayer
 and OSS sound and in 2 minutes I was playing a video.
 
 These guys have some unique ideas, and they're doing an excellent job of
 implementing them. If they can keep at it, in a year this will be a
 fantastic Linux distro. Give it a spin and prepare to be impressed.
 
 No, it isn't better than Fedora, just really different. I like what
 they're doing.
 
 http://www.tinycorelinux.com

Somewhat related is

http://rwmj.wordpress.com/2009/03/20/febootstrap-minimal-now-159-mb/

15.9 MB minimalistic Fedora.

Rahul


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Re: Fedora 11 Countdown Banner?

2009-04-03 Thread Nicu Buculei

Paul W. Frields wrote:

On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 04:54:49PM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:

Marc Ferguson wrote:
I have the same JavaScript code on my blog that was used for the Fedora  
10 release.  I saw a blog entry  
(http://blog.berkenpies.nl/2009/04/02/fedora-11-countdown-counter-part-2/) 
talking about the Fedora 11 counter, but it's the same exact code that I 
have on my site.  My site is still showing Fedora 10.  Does a Fedora 11  
counter exist?
It is early, for the last releases we had it running in the last month or 
so, when we had quite sure the release date will not have a major delay.


AFAIK, Paolo Leoni from the Art Team, who did the graphics for F10,  
expressed the interest to make them for F11 too.


The artwork used in the Beta release (Greek landscape with temple) is  
going to be replaced with something completely different, so once we are  
settled on the wallpaper graphic, the counter can be made to fit it.


Also, this showed up in my reading of the Fedora Planet this morning:

http://blog.berkenpies.nl/?p=128


That was the updated version after I commented on his first try 
(http://blog.berkenpies.nl/?p=127). It seems he has no intention of 
making a version that will fit the fedoraproject.org layout, so we will 
do our own, complete with translations and everything.


I saw Paolo's reply down the thread and I am happy he is on the job.

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Re: FDISK problems

2009-04-03 Thread woodson2
Two days ago you posted the exact same question. You just did a copy and paste.
Why did you repost? Did you even try the suggestion or two you were given?
Why not just follow up on your original post. You offered no feedback on whether
you had any progress.
Ignoring the advice you were given makes me think it's worthless
replying to your posts.

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Hey genius, do you see the timestamp on the left of the post that tells 
literate people the date and time a post is created...Anyhow, thanks to the 
others that responded, this is a duplicate post that was created right after 
the original by accident. My apologies and this issue has been resolved.


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Re: Boot Windows XP from high block number?

2009-04-03 Thread vcamatya
Hi David, 

I'm trying to triple boot Fedora 10, XP-64 bit, and xp-32 bit.
I installed XP-32 bit, XP-64 bit (at this point, I could see both the Os in 
boot menu). Then I installed Fedora 10. However, after this, I could only see 
Fedora-10. Editing Grub.conf (from many suggestions) didn't help. 
Keep getting device read error messages. Then I bumped to ur post. Now, I'm a 
newbie in parted. I was hoping if you could provide me some pointers, if it 
is useful at all for me:

running parted for my machine:

[r...@localhost [1] vcamatya]# /sbin/parted
GNU Parted 1.8.8
Using /dev/sda
Welcome to GNU Parted! Type 'help' to view a list of commands.
(parted) print free   
Model: ATA ST3500620AS (scsi)
Disk /dev/sda: 500GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: msdos

Number  Start   End SizeType  File system  Flags 
32.3kB  8225kB  8193kBFree Space 
 1  8225kB  488GB   488GB   extended   lba   
 5  8258kB  43.0GB  43.0GB  logical   ntfs hidden
 6  43.0GB  127GB   83.9GB  logical   ntfs   
 7  127GB   358GB   231GB   logical   ntfs   
 8  358GB   358GB   206MB   logical   ext3   
 9  358GB   488GB   130GB   logicallvm   
 2  488GB   500GB   12.0GB  primary   ntfs boot  

(parted) unit s   
(parted) print free   
Model: ATA ST3500620AS (scsi)
Disk /dev/sda: 976773168s
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: msdos

Number  Start   End SizeType  File system  Flags 
63s 16064s  16002sFree Space 
 1  16065s  953329229s  953313165s  extended   lba   
 5  16128s  83987819s   83971692s   logical   ntfs hidden
 6  83987883s   247834754s  163846872s  logical   ntfs   
 7  247834818s  698393744s  450558927s  logical   ntfs   
 8  698393808s  698795369s  401562s logical   ext3   
 9  698795433s  953329229s  254533797s  logicallvm   
 2  953329230s  976768064s  23438835s   primary   ntfs boot  
thanks in advance,
Vinay


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Re: Yum issues

2009-04-03 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 19:16:19 -0700 (PDT), dco...@efn.org wrote:

 I posted on the 19th, 23rd, 26th ,31st.
 
 Tried this from an recent example on the list..
 
 [r...@boatbuyer grub]# yum install yum-updatesd
 Loading installonlyn plugin
 Setting up Install Process
 Setting up repositories
 dries  
  [1/7]
 http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/10/Fedora/i386/os/Packages/fedora-release-10.1.noarch.rpm/repodata/repomd.xml:
 [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 01:21:34 GMT

You've messed up your repository definitions somehow.
Verify the definition of the dries repository. It looks as if
you replaced the baseurl= with the URL of the fedora-release package,
which is not correct at all.

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Re: view more or less?

2009-04-03 Thread Steve Searle

round 03:18am on Friday, April 03, 2009 (UK time), Paul Ward scrawled:

 I was wanting to look at a file the other day and my colleague
 insisted I do not use less but view instead.

I would be wary of colleagues who insist you do something - advise maybe
but why should he insist.

 I thought about this but could not think of a good reason to use view over 
 less.

I assume by view he means looking at the file through the vim (vi)
editor in read only mode?  Although there is nothing wrong with this,
you do need to know some vi commands to make use of it.

Also you can't pipe into it, e.g you can't use view to do something
like:

$ dmesg | less

In short they are different tools that have some overlap in what they
can do, but they are not functionally equivalent.

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Re: Interactive startup on F10. Pressing I doesn't work

2009-04-03 Thread Sharpe, Sam J
2009/4/3 Aldo Foot luni...@gmail.com:
 On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Sharpe, Sam J
 sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com wrote:
 2009/4/3 Aldo Foot luni...@gmail.com:
 On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Nigel Henry
 cave.dnb2m9...@aliceadsl.fr wrote:
 On F9 I had to press the I a few times to enter interactive startup, on
 snip
 The current approach is not practical, there should be a custom timeout to
 give time to press 'i.
 ~af

 I don't think interactive startup should exist at all.

 If you want to disable services, use Rescue Mode or Single User Mode.
 When a system is booted to multi-user-graphical I want the same
 scripts running as last time thankyou, regardless of any finger
 mashing by the user.

 I'll respectfully disagree. Under the right conditions it could be beneficial
 to have the interactive boot option.

Name one that can't be solved with single user or rescue mode... I'm
not trying to fight you, but I am interested in this discussion as
I've never seen the point of Interactive Init.

 Also, let's don't forget that there are a bunch of systems out there that 
 don't
 need a graphical environment to do their job.

Sorry, I picked runlevel 5 as an example, because most of the systems
co-located with my fingermashers are graphical. The same applies to
runlevel 3, except those machines generally don't have keyboards and
monitors which restricts tinkering - I would prefer they are
consistently booted and the option to hit i was not available - is
there an easy way to turn it off that I have missed?

 I think most will agree that the finger mashing is very impractical.

Yes. I prefer to hit this at the grub menu:
eDOWNeEND singleENTERb

It feels a lot more reliable than hammering one key until you get the
Yes/No/Continue prompt!

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Re: Interactive startup on F10. Pressing I doesn't work

2009-04-03 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 02 April 2009 22:47:21 Nigel Henry wrote:

 Are you trying this on F10, because I can't get into interactive startup on
 it.

 On F8, only one press of the i key is necessary.

 On F9 one press does not work, and multiple presses are needed. On F9 it's
 all a bit hit and miss. Rapid presses of the i key may work, sometimes a
 bit of delay inbetween keypresses work. As I say, on F9 it's a bit hit and
 miss.

 On F10, I can't get into interactive startup at all.

 As I said on an earlier post, getting into interactive startup is becoming
 more and more difficult. F8, and earlier are ok. F9, you have do multiple
 tries, but eventually get there. F10, from my personal experience, is
 impossible. It's really weird as all the /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit scripts on
 F8, F9, and F10, appear to be identical.

 There has to be some easy fix here so that we can enter interactive startup
 in F10. Perhaps it's time to ask on the Fedora devel list.

F10 on my netbook - I started rapid taps of 'i' as soon as the BIOS screen 
disappeared and Fedora started.  Interactive mode came up as expected.

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Re: Interactive startup on F10. Pressing I doesn't work

2009-04-03 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Friday 03 April 2009 03:54, Clark Martin wrote:
 Alan Evans wrote:
  I would have thought that the key-repeat wouldn't differ functionally
  from rapidly tapping the key.

 Most computer keyboards transmit to the computer a key down and key up
 for each key.

I believe this is the only possible way, if the computer is to be able to 
detect simultaneous keypresses (like shift+a). It goes detected as:

shift pressed
a pressed
a released
shift released

If one doesn't make the difference between press and release, ie. detect only 
presses, it would be next to impossible to type combinations like 
ctrl+alt+shift+f3 or such.

Switch to runlevel 3, execute showkey and play. ;-)

 This is true for modifiers as well (shift, control, etc). 

All keys are born equal (the keyboard democracy principle). Software decides 
which keys are to be interpreted as modifiers. Shift, ctrl, alt, menu, win, 
etc are a matter of convention --- if you code at a level low enough (ie. 
capture all keypresses and releases straight from the kernel keyboard driver) 
you can make any key behave as a modifier. I did some experimenting on this a 
while ago...

Same for repeating.

Best, :-)
Marko

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kmod-nvidia173xx: two different version installed in F10 at one yum update

2009-04-03 Thread Joachim Backes
I run actually yum update, which presented to install two versions of 
kmod-nvidia-173xx:


(20/35): 
kmod-nvidia-173xx-2.6.27.19-170.2.35.fc10.i686-173.14.18-1.fc10.i686.rpm 

(21/35): 
kmod-nvidia-173xx-2.6.27.21-170.2.56.fc10.i686-173.14.18-1.fc10.1.i686.rpm


Actually, on the system were to versions of kmod-nvidia-173xx installed:

rpm -qa '*kmod-nvidia*'
kmod-nvidia-173xx-173.14.16-1.fc10.2.i686
kmod-nvidia-173xx-2.6.27.19-170.2.35.fc10.i686-173.14.16-1.fc10.2.i686

After the update, which updated additionally from 
kernel-2.6.27.19-170.2.35.fc10 to kernel-2.6.27.21-170.2.56.fc10, I found:


rpm -qa '*kmod-nvidia*'
kmod-nvidia-173xx-2.6.27.21-170.2.56.fc10.i686-173.14.18-1.fc10.1.i686
kmod-nvidia-173xx-2.6.27.19-170.2.35.fc10.i686-173.14.18-1.fc10.i686
kmod-nvidia-173xx-173.14.18-1.fc10.1.i686

Can somebody explain this?

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Safely remove USB stick

2009-04-03 Thread Timothy Murphy
I asked some time ago why there is no Safely Remove option
in Dolphin on my Fedora-10/KDE system,
which I can click on before removing a USB stick.

I was told that there was such an option,
but I don't seem able to find it.
I certainly don't have a Safely Remove icon in my panel,
as in the unmentionable system.


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Re: kphotoalbum tips?

2009-04-03 Thread Ian Malone
2009/4/1 Anne Wilson an...@kde.org:
 On Wednesday 01 April 2009 00:08:48 Ian Malone wrote:
 2009/3/27 Anne Wilson an...@kde.org:
  On Friday 27 March 2009 15:18:04 Ian Malone wrote:
  Does anyone use kphotoalbum?  It seems to do /almost/ exactly what I
  want in terms of flexible tagging, but the html albums it exports
  don't look great (both its file|html export and the html export
  plugin), has anyone had any success customizing it?  Thought I'd ask
  here before disappearing across to their mailing list.
 
  If you get information from them, please report back.  I'd like to see it
  included in UserBase.  There is some information already at
  http://userbase.kde.org/KPhotoAlbum

 Nearly forgot to reply: thanks for this, I didn't know about UserBase
 at all. The Image::Kimdaba perl module sounds like it might be worth a
 look and there's mention on that page of a possible export to JAlbum
 (which is what I used to use and looks fantastic, but just doesn't do
 photo management).

 I don't use it myself, but if you tell me exactly what you want to do but
 can't, I may be able to find out for you the best way to achieve it.


Well, I want to do two things.  One is manage a photo collection,
KPhotoAlbum doesn't look as nice as f-spot, but its tagging abilities
are far closer to what I actually want (people, location, custom
categories).  The other is be able to export web albums and I have a
slight preference for static html to LAMP for that because then I can
put them on CDs and they are simpler to transfer between webhosts.  I
currently use JAlbum for that, but it's quite heavily based on putting
albums into folders whereas a better solution for me would be to
create albums based on tags.  JAlbum can create beautiful albums
http://jalbum.net/browse/featured/album/94706/ so if I can get them
talking to each other that would be great.  It also does a few useful
things like allow picture metadata to be included in the page.

KPhotoAlbum's built-in HTML generation is coded into the application,
so I'd have to patch it and run my own build to make changes.
Alternatively the kibiplugins for HTML generation are done with XSLT
and CSS, so there's a degree of flexibility there, though they don't
seem to get much information passed from KPhotoAlbum itself. Both
currently produce very plain albums, the kibiplugins exports produce
albums called 'unnamed collection' or something along those lines. The
Perl module sounds interesting, I write quite a lot of Perl so I can
probably do something with that.

If anyone has photo management software they use that generates good
html albums I'd like to give it a try, otherwise I'm happy to have a
bit more of a play with KPA myself to see if it can be persuaded to do
what I want.

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Re: Fedora 11 Countdown Banner?

2009-04-03 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 10:11:29AM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
 Paul W. Frields wrote:
 Also, this showed up in my reading of the Fedora Planet this morning:

 http://blog.berkenpies.nl/?p=128

 That was the updated version after I commented on his first try  
 (http://blog.berkenpies.nl/?p=127). It seems he has no intention of  
 making a version that will fit the fedoraproject.org layout, so we will  
 do our own, complete with translations and everything.

 I saw Paolo's reply down the thread and I am happy he is on the job.

Me too.  The design looked pretty nice, but obviously the size
restrictions are important.  Thanks, Paolo, for working on this!

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Re: Kernel-firmware package and Anaconda.

2009-04-03 Thread Bram_Gro
So the only thing that needs to be done to create a completely open 
source Fedora system, is adding the kernel-firmware package to 
yum.config exclusion list, so it wont be installed during kernel updates?


Since proprietary Accelerated Graphics Drivers are separated from 
Fedora's repositories, why not do the same to proprietary kernel drivers?



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fonts.conf

2009-04-03 Thread David Hláčik
Hello guys,

I am using hintslight by default . I want to configure fontconfig to
use hintmedium for fonts equal or smaller than 9px , this is what i
have in my .fonts.conf :

?xml version=1.0?
!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM fonts.dtd
fontconfig
  match target=font
test name=pixelsize compare=less_eq
  double9.0/double
/test
edit name=hintstyle mode=assign
  consthintmedium/const
/edit
  /match
/fontconfig

But it does not works,

what is wrong?

Thanks,
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Re: Kernel-firmware package and Anaconda.

2009-04-03 Thread Alan Cox
On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:23:14 +0200
Bram_Gro bram_...@lavabit.com wrote:

 So the only thing that needs to be done to create a completely open 
 source Fedora system, is adding the kernel-firmware package to 
 yum.config exclusion list, so it wont be installed during kernel updates?

And one assumes reflash your BIOS with your own code, as well as the in
ROM firmware on your graphics cards etc.

There is a real question about at what point you decide something is or
isn't too dependant on something proprietary - you have ROM firmware
running on other CPUs, ROM based BIOS type code running on the main CPU,
CPU microcode, RAM based (downloaded) firmware onto other processors, and
RAM based host CPU stuff without source (aka proprietary applications,
naughty drivers etc)

Where you draw that line (both morally and legally) is non-trivial,
especially for the notion of free software as opposed to the rather
looser idea of open source

Firmware is a very tricky one. If you take downloaded microcode for
some other CPU on the system some would argue its better to have it
binary than in ROM as the device is then hackable, others the reverse.

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Re: Kernel-firmware package and Anaconda.

2009-04-03 Thread Bram_Gro

Alan Cox wrote:

On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:23:14 +0200
Bram_Gro bram_...@lavabit.com wrote:

So the only thing that needs to be done to create a completely open 
source Fedora system, is adding the kernel-firmware package to 
yum.config exclusion list, so it wont be installed during kernel updates?


And one assumes reflash your BIOS with your own code, as well as the in
ROM firmware on your graphics cards etc.

There is a real question about at what point you decide something is or
isn't too dependant on something proprietary - you have ROM firmware
running on other CPUs, ROM based BIOS type code running on the main CPU,
CPU microcode, RAM based (downloaded) firmware onto other processors, and
RAM based host CPU stuff without source (aka proprietary applications,
naughty drivers etc)

Where you draw that line (both morally and legally) is non-trivial,
especially for the notion of free software as opposed to the rather
looser idea of open source

Firmware is a very tricky one. If you take downloaded microcode for
some other CPU on the system some would argue its better to have it
binary than in ROM as the device is then hackable, others the reverse.

Alan



I don't want to go that far. Thats exactly why I called it open source 
and not free, to avoid philosophical discussions.

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Re: Safely remove USB stick

2009-04-03 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 03 April 2009 12:22:44 Timothy Murphy wrote:
 I asked some time ago why there is no Safely Remove option
 in Dolphin on my Fedora-10/KDE system,
 which I can click on before removing a USB stick.

 I was told that there was such an option,
 but I don't seem able to find it.
 I certainly don't have a Safely Remove icon in my panel,
 as in the unmentionable system.

Tim, you get the icon if you hover over the device name in dolphin.  That way, 
if you have more than one usb device mounted it is quite clear which one you 
are going to unmount.

Hover over it and on the right you'll see an up-arrow icon for unmounting.  If 
it is not currently mounted, but it's still plugged in you'll see the device-
name but the icon will not appear.

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Re: Kernel-firmware package and Anaconda.

2009-04-03 Thread Alan Cox
 To maintain a (open source) Fedora installation, is adding the 
 kernel-firmware package to yum.config exclusion list sufficient, or are 
 there more pitfalls?

Firstly you need to define open source

Your question is a bit like asking what is freedom

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Re: view more or less?

2009-04-03 Thread Mike Burger

 Hello,

 just a quick question?

 I was wanting to look at a file the other day and my colleague
 insisted I do not use less but view instead.

 I thought about this but could not think of a good reason to use view over
 less.

 I think less is more than more and view is less then more or less than
 less?

 Do you agree?

I've been a fan of less over more or other pagers for a while.

I typically do not use (or recommend that people use) view, as it is, in
essence, vi/vim.  The potential problem is that, being vi/vim, it opens a
temp file in /var/tmp for every file opened within.

This can be troublesome if perusing large log files, which may cause the
/var filesystem to fill up, and can cause applications or even the system
to experience problems.

Less does not make use of disk space in this way, thereby having less of a
potential impact due to important filesystems filling up.

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Re: Boot Windows XP from high block number?

2009-04-03 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
vcamatya wrote:
 Hi David, 
 
 I'm trying to triple boot Fedora 10, XP-64 bit, and xp-32 bit. I
 installed XP-32 bit, XP-64 bit (at this point, I could see both
 the Os in boot menu). Then I installed Fedora 10. However, after
 this, I could only see Fedora-10. Editing Grub.conf (from many
 suggestions) didn't help.
 Keep getting device read error messages. Then I bumped to ur
 post.
 Now, I'm a newbie in parted. I was hoping if you could provide me
 some pointers, if it is useful at all for me:
 
It would be helpful to see your grub.conf file. Did you try
something like this to boot Windows?

title Windows
root (hd0,1)
chainloader +1

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Re: Kernel-firmware package and Anaconda.

2009-04-03 Thread Bram_Gro

Alan Cox wrote:
To maintain a (open source) Fedora installation, is adding the 
kernel-firmware package to yum.config exclusion list sufficient, or are 
there more pitfalls?


Firstly you need to define open source

Your question is a bit like asking what is freedom


By installing kernel-firmware, I would install closed source firmware.

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Re: Boot Windows XP from high block number?

2009-04-03 Thread David
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 6:30 PM, vcamatya no-reply...@fcp.surfsite.org wrote:
 Hi David,

 I'm trying to triple boot Fedora 10, XP-64 bit, and xp-32 bit.
 I was hoping if you could provide me some pointers, if it is useful at all 
 for me:

Hi Vinay

 Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

We must keep in mind that this list is for discussion of *Fedora*
issues (and you do not mention any problem inside Fedora itself) so
shifting focus to other operating systems (OS) could become
inappropriate in this forum. My previous post was to make a specific
point that counter to common advice I'd found it unnecessary to
install multiple OS in a specific physical order on disk as often
stated, if one is prepared to rearrange the partition table (and
repair the mbr) afterward. I felt this might be useful to primarily
linux users who might want to try install another OS after. But this
is not your situation here, you have installed your XP's first. So I
think my previous post is not relevant to you at all.

I have zero experience with or interest in XP and its installation
scripts. Also, I do not use lvm, I have not seen a grub.conf for an
lvm system. So your situation is beyond me in several aspects and I
expect there will be other readers here who can assist you better than
I. Having said that, here's my suggestions.

Your situation is different to the original poster, so it is a good
idea to begin a new thread rather than hijacking this one onto your
issue.

I think parted is not the solution you need; I suggest you focus on
grub. It is powerful and if configured correctly should be able to
boot your other OS.

However some of these other OS seem to be written assuming they are
the only OS on the box. A quick google/linux search boot logical
partition for similar situation to yours, first result thread [1]
included:
-
If you _must_ get this grub setup to work, I suspect you'll have to
find some way to overcome XP's code tracking features that maintains
guids and timestamps (and who knows what else) about the boot loader
code/files in the registry. The code you copied no longer matches up
with what XP's registry values say it should be.
-
So there might be other (non-Fedora) issues for you to research
elsewhere, even if you do get those OS to boot.

The reason I did that search is that it looked odd to me that you have
only one primary partition after your two XP installs, and that your
extended/logical partitions are physically first on the drive. Here
I've always used a primary partition for each OS, but maybe thats not
necessary. Other readers might confirm what is normal for multiple XP
installs.

 Editing Grub.conf (from many suggestions) didn't help.
What forum was that discussion? Can you provide a link, to save us
going over the same here?

If you want to seek help here getting your Fedora install grub to boot
those other OS, it will help to know:
1) In parted output, which partition is XP32 ?
2) In parted output, which partition is XP64 ?
3) Your entire grub.conf
4) (Your parted info again if you start a new thread).
5) The *exact* error message you see in each failed boot situation.

Good luck with it. At least you have the best of the 3 OS running ok ;)

David

[1] http://linux.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/comp.os.linux/2004-03/0318.html

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Re: Resizing with gparted for Fedora installation

2009-04-03 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 08:30 +0300, Mark Ryden wrote:
 Aaron,
 
  Thanks.
   I am a newbie about this. Why should I defrag the disk first?
 Won't it work without defrag the disk first?
 Are there any disadvantages of running gparted without defrag it
 first?
 Is the fact that, in fact, after the manufacturer/seller installed
 Vista, there was **no work** done on the filesystem (there was one
 boot into vista, that's all) , makes running defrag unneeded ?
 
 Regards,
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Well you seem to be aware what def ragging does. Probably on a newly
installed system it is not needed but running the program will show you
that and def ragging if needed will be fast. I can't see in the man page
which is oriented towards Linux systems that def ragging is done by
gparted.
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Re: Interactive startup on F10. Pressing I doesn't work

2009-04-03 Thread Alan Evans
Clark Martin wrote:
 Alan Evans wrote:

 I would have thought that the key-repeat wouldn't differ functionally
 from rapidly tapping the key.


 Most computer keyboards transmit to the computer a key down and key up for
 each key.  This is true for modifiers as well (shift, control, etc).  The
 computer decides if you've held the key down long enough to repeat and also
 determines how fast to repeat the key.  Which means if the keyboard buffer
 is cleared AFTER you've pressed the key the program won't see the key down
 and therefore won't consider a key as repeating.

 In normal use when the buffer is never cleared typing fast and key repeat
 would be equivalent.

Are you suggesting that the init script clears the keyboard buffer at
the driver level? How would it even do that?

If I write an application that's reading stdin, that app is certainly
not worrying about key press events and key release events to
determine if modifiers are at play. It's just taking chars out of
stdin.

As I understand it, if that application clears the buffer then it's
doing something along the lines of calling flush(). This doesn't cause
the system-level keyboard driver to forget that a key has been
pressed. That driver continues injecting chars into stdin even after
my app has flushed the buffer.

I would think that it would be considerably harder to detect a
modifier press or release in a shell script.

Maybe I'm completely wrong about all that...

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Re: Kernel-firmware package and Anaconda.

2009-04-03 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 14:53 +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
 Firstly you need to define open source

I didn't think that needed defining.  Free, on the other hand, has
various possible definitions.

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How do I rip this sort of audio stream ?

2009-04-03 Thread Linuxguy123
I'd like to rip the audio stream that plays (with Totem) when I press
the Listen button on this page so that I can listen to it later in the
day.

http://streamingradioguide.com/streaming-schedule.php?station=KKFTservice=FM

I can listen to it live just fine with Totem.  How could I record it so
that I could listen to it later as an MP3 ?

Thanks

LG



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f9: turn screensaver on/off when using xfce

2009-04-03 Thread Dave Feustel
Running xfce in F9, I cannot figure out how to enable/disable the screensaver.
I have run the command yum install 'xfce*', so I think I have all the
xfce apps installed. Which one controls the screensaver?

Thanks.

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Re: Resizing with gparted for Fedora installation

2009-04-03 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 16:17 +0300, Mark Ryden wrote:
 Hello,
   I have a new Lenovo laptop with Windows Vista on it. I want to install Linux
 on it while keeping vista on it (though I rarely intend to use Vista,
 keeping vista is a MUST for me). So I want it to be dual boot. There is
 one partition on the disk, with 160GB. I consider using gparted livecd for it.
 In fact, I did not used the
 There is a way to Windows Vista except booting once into the system, so most 
 of
 the disk is free.
 I know how to use the resize feature of gparted. I intend to resize
 the partition
 to 20 GB and then create a new parition in the free space which will be
 created. On the new paritition I intend to install the Linux.
 My questions are:
 1) Is it safe to do resizing with gparted ?
 2) I saw in the web in some post :
 run:
 #ntfsfix -V
 and then:
 if you don't see version 2 don't use this version of gparted on Vista
 NTFS volumes
 
 3) This can be done also by ntfsresize, thus:
 ntfsresize -s 20G /dev/sda1
 
 Is ntfsresize -s 20G any better ? safer? or is it in fact the same
 (but not from
 the GUI)?

gparted should work but things to consider...

Fedora 10 installer can resize NTFS partition on the fly when
installing. Gparted might be a bit easier (assuming that you make a boot
CD).

If you have used the Windows for any length of time, defrag first.

Leave any utility partitions alone, i.e. re-installation partitions etc.
so if necessary, you could reinstall Windows.

After resizing, Windows will run a full repair on the next boot up, be
prepared to allow the time.

Windows XP seems to require at least 12 Gigabytes with current SP3 and
Vista likely needs more. 20 should be OK. If space is not an issue, 24
or 32 Gigabytes might be safer, especially if your need to use Windows
increases.

Craig


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Re: f9: turn screensaver on/off when using xfce

2009-04-03 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 10:52:38 -0400
Dave Feustel dfeus...@mindspring.com wrote:

 Running xfce in F9, I cannot figure out how to enable/disable the
 screensaver. I have run the command yum install 'xfce*', so I think I
 have all the xfce apps installed. Which one controls the screensaver?

You instead want to do: 

yum groupinstall XFCE

to get all the packages needed. 

In f9 by default Xfce uses xscreensaver. You can run
'xscreensaver-command -prefs' to get a prefs screen. 

 
 Thanks.
 

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Re: Kernel-firmware package and Anaconda.

2009-04-03 Thread Alan Cox
 By installing kernel-firmware, I would install closed source firmware.

And by turning your laptop on you would use closed source BIOS code
(which you will also redistribute if you should give the laptop away ;))

Its really up to you - there isn't a some precise watertight definition
of open source.

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Re: How do I rip this sort of audio stream ?

2009-04-03 Thread Sharpe, Sam J

Linuxguy123 wrote:

I'd like to rip the audio stream that plays (with Totem) when I press
the Listen button on this page so that I can listen to it later in the
day.

http://streamingradioguide.com/streaming-schedule.php?station=KKFTservice=FM

1) use wget to get the Listen link and have a dig through it.

2) work out the resulting MMS stream:
mms://winmax1.acs.playstream.com/kkft?MSWMExt=.asf

3) download it:
gst-launch mmssrc 
location=mms://winmax1.acs.playstream.com/kkft?MSWMExt=.asf ! filesink 
location=/tmp/kkft.asf


4) convert it to mp3:
ffmpeg -i /tmp/kkft.asf /tmp/kkft.mp3

I'm sure you can script/optimise that, but it's a Friday afternoon and 
the pub's just opened.


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Re: How do I rip this sort of audio stream ?

2009-04-03 Thread Mark Haney
Linuxguy123 wrote:
 I'd like to rip the audio stream that plays (with Totem) when I press
 the Listen button on this page so that I can listen to it later in the
 day.
 
 http://streamingradioguide.com/streaming-schedule.php?station=KKFTservice=FM
 
 I can listen to it live just fine with Totem.  How could I record it so
 that I could listen to it later as an MP3 ?
 
 Thanks
 
 LG
 
 
 
Have you tried streamripper? I've not used it in a long time, I'm not
even sure it's actively developed any more. (If it is, I apologize to
the devs...)



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Re: Safely remove USB stick

2009-04-03 Thread Terry Polzin
On Friday 03 April 2009 07:22, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 I asked some time ago why there is no Safely Remove option
 in Dolphin on my Fedora-10/KDE system,
 which I can click on before removing a USB stick.

 I was told that there was such an option,
 but I don't seem able to find it.
 I certainly don't have a Safely Remove icon in my panel,
 as in the unmentionable system.


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Re: How do I rip this sort of audio stream ?

2009-04-03 Thread Nigel Henry
On Friday 03 April 2009 16:50, Linuxguy123 wrote:
 I'd like to rip the audio stream that plays (with Totem) when I press
 the Listen button on this page so that I can listen to it later in the
 day.

 http://streamingradioguide.com/streaming-schedule.php?station=KKFTservice=
FM

 I can listen to it live just fine with Totem.  How could I record it so
 that I could listen to it later as an MP3 ?

 Thanks

 LG

Hi Linuxguy.

I normally use MhWaveedit for recording, but you will have to compile it from 
a source tarball on Fedora. Link below.

https://gna.org/projects/mhwaveedit

You will need to install a few development packages to compile it, as below.

libsamplerate-dev
libsndfile-dev
libasound-dev
jack-audio-connection-kit-dev

And if you want to save the recording as an MP3, you will have to install the 
lame package, which is from the rpmfusion repo.

Hope I havn't forgotten any of the development packages you need to install.

It's a nice app, and I keep plugging it, although I have no connection with 
the author.

Nigel.

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Re: Kernel-firmware package and Anaconda.

2009-04-03 Thread Bram_Gro

Alan Cox wrote:

By installing kernel-firmware, I would install closed source firmware.


And by turning your laptop on you would use closed source BIOS code
(which you will also redistribute if you should give the laptop away ;))

Its really up to you - there isn't a some precise watertight definition
of open source.
I know that its up to me, but to maintain a Fedora installation clean of 
proprietary stuff, is adding the kernel-firmware package to yum.config 
exclusion list sufficient.



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UDF 2.5 and Blu-ray video creation tools

2009-04-03 Thread Michael Cronenworth
It's my understanding that kernel 2.6.26 brought UDF 2.5 support, but I 
am not sure what tools have the capability to create a UDF 2.5 ISO to 
burn to a DVD or Blu-ray disc in a video format. My intentions are to be 
able to playback AVCHD video on a Blu-ray player. I've stumbled on a 
mkudfiso project[1] but I haven't tried using it yet. I can't seem to 
find any Blu-ray authoring utilities for creating a Blu-ray directory 
structure either. Are there any better tools?


As far as Google is concerned, Blu-ray authoring seems to be an entirely 
Windows or Mac thing.



[1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/blurayauthor/

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Re: Another basic networking question.

2009-04-03 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 00:44:03 +0100,
  Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 VLANs... the word you are looking for is 802.1Q
 To define multiple VLANs on the same network port, create files of the format:

VLANS are a bit different than what I was doing. All of the devices were
attached to the same switch. I didn't need any restriction on who saw the
ethernet packets (and this switch couldn't do that in any case).

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Fedora internet connection issues

2009-04-03 Thread Wei Wen

Hey Guys,

Recently I bought a hp computer with vista installed. Later I shrinked vista to 
make room for my Fedora 7 installation. Installation was successful. However, 
both wired and wireless connection became problematic. The network adapter for 
wired connection is realteck RTL8102E Family PCI-E Fast Ethernet NIC (NDIS 
6.0) and the adapter for the wireless connection is Atheros AR5007 802.11b/g 
WiFi Adapter.
From the installation status under Fedora, I can see the wired adapter is 
active. But the connection is most of the time disconnected. The wireless 
connection never was active. I know I should choose to install the adapter 
driver, but since using the wired network became a problem, I have no way of 
install the driver. Any idea on how to solve the problems? Thanks

Wei Wen


  

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Re: Fedora internet connection issues

2009-04-03 Thread Michael Cronenworth

 Original Message 
Subject: Fedora internet connection issues
From: Wei Wen ww...@yahoo.com
To: fedora-list@redhat.com
Date: 04/03/2009 11:22 AM


Hey Guys,

Later I shrinked vista to make room for my Fedora 7 installation.



Why Fedora 7?

Install Fedora 10 and see if your issues go away.

Fedora 7 is not supported and is over a year old.

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Re: Fedora internet connection issues

2009-04-03 Thread Michael Cronenworth

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Fedora internet connection issues
From: Wei Wen ww...@yahoo.com
To: Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com
Date: 04/03/2009 11:29 AM


I have Fedora 7 DVD from a book and since it is most easily available, I 
installed it.
But I downloaded Fedora 10 upgrade yesterday and burned it to a DVD using a 
software on Vista. But for some reason, after I loaded it in the tray and 
started the computer, there was no upgrading going on. After I logged in Fedora 
7 and clicked the DVD icon, no thing happened. I wonder if I should burn the 
DVD under Fedora? Thanks



You should use an ISO burning software in Vista or in Fedora. Fedora can 
do this with a simple right click on the ISO file and select Write to 
Disc... in the menu. For Vista you will need to use a program such as 
ImgBurn.


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the proper way to identify the bitness of your kernel and CPU

2009-04-03 Thread Robert P. J. Day

  what is the fedora-approved way to identify the wordsize of both
your running kernel and your CPU?  for the kernel, i'm used to running

  $ uname -r

and just looking at the suffix, which in my case would be either
i686 or x86_64.  is there a simpler way?  does one of the uname
options reliably report just that portion -- the wordsize of the
running kernel?

  and, secondly, regardless of the bitness of the kernel, what about
identifying the wordsize of the actual CPU (since you can obviously
have a 32-bit kernel running on an x86_64 CPU).

  my standard tricks are one of:

  $ grep lm /proc/cpuinfo(where lm stands for long mode)
  $ getconf LONG_BIT (should print 32 or 64)

in that second case, would uname -p reliably show a 64-bit CPU, even
with a 32-bit OS?

  thanks.

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Re: Kernel-firmware package and Anaconda.

2009-04-03 Thread m

Bram_Gro wrote:

Alan Cox wrote:

By installing kernel-firmware, I would install closed source firmware.


And by turning your laptop on you would use closed source BIOS code
(which you will also redistribute if you should give the laptop away ;))

Its really up to you - there isn't a some precise watertight definition
of open source.
I know that its up to me, but to maintain a Fedora installation clean of 
proprietary stuff, is adding the kernel-firmware package to yum.config 
exclusion list sufficient.




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Re: Problems with Fedora 9 Flash 10

2009-04-03 Thread Andrea
Craig White wrote:
 On Thu, 2009-04-02 at 22:47 +0100, Andrea wrote:
 Craig White wrote:
 I can see the flash plugin in the page about:plugins

 where do I find mozilla-plugin-config? I don't have it.
 
 if you see it, it should work. Is the one listed, the version you
 updated?
 
 yum provides /usr/bin/mozilla-plugin-config
 
 Craig
 
 

After messing around, it started working again.

finger crossed...

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Re: Kernel-firmware package and Anaconda.

2009-04-03 Thread Bram_Gro


m wrote:
 No.

Then what is?

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Re: How do I rip this sort of audio stream ?

2009-04-03 Thread Linuxguy123
On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 16:30 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
 Linuxguy123 wrote:
  I'd like to rip the audio stream that plays (with Totem) when I press
  the Listen button on this page so that I can listen to it later in the
  day.
 
  http://streamingradioguide.com/streaming-schedule.php?station=KKFTservice=FM
 1) use wget to get the Listen link and have a dig through it.
 
 2) work out the resulting MMS stream:
 mms://winmax1.acs.playstream.com/kkft?MSWMExt=.asf
 
 3) download it:
 gst-launch mmssrc 
 location=mms://winmax1.acs.playstream.com/kkft?MSWMExt=.asf ! filesink 
 location=/tmp/kkft.asf
 
 4) convert it to mp3:
 ffmpeg -i /tmp/kkft.asf /tmp/kkft.mp3
 
 I'm sure you can script/optimise that, but it's a Friday afternoon and 
 the pub's just opened.
 
 --
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Great reply, Sam.  Thanks for taking the time to explain how to get the
url and give an example of what it should be. 

Enjoy the pub !

LG 

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Re: the proper way to identify the bitness of your kernel and CPU

2009-04-03 Thread Sharpe, Sam J
2009/4/3 Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca:

  what is the fedora-approved way to identify the wordsize of both
 your running kernel and your CPU?  for the kernel, i'm used to running

  $ uname -r

 and just looking at the suffix, which in my case would be either
 i686 or x86_64.  is there a simpler way?

# man arch
   NAME
   arch - print machine hardware name (same as uname -m)

# arch
x86_64

# uname -m
x86_64

  and, secondly, regardless of the bitness of the kernel, what about
 identifying the wordsize of the actual CPU (since you can obviously
 have a 32-bit kernel running on an x86_64 CPU).

  my standard tricks are one of:

  $ grep lm /proc/cpuinfo    (where lm stands for long mode)
  $ getconf LONG_BIT         (should print 32 or 64)

I like to get it in the same format as the output of arch:

[[ $(grep lm /proc/cpuinfo) ]]  echo x86_64 || echo i686

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Re: How do I rip this sort of audio stream ?

2009-04-03 Thread Linuxguy123
On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 11:31 -0400, Mark Haney wrote:
 Linuxguy123 wrote:
  I'd like to rip the audio stream that plays (with Totem) when I press
  the Listen button on this page so that I can listen to it later in the
  day.
  
  http://streamingradioguide.com/streaming-schedule.php?station=KKFTservice=FM
  
  I can listen to it live just fine with Totem.  How could I record it so
  that I could listen to it later as an MP3 ?
  
  Thanks
  
  LG
  
  
  
 Have you tried streamripper? I've not used it in a long time, I'm not
 even sure it's actively developed any more. (If it is, I apologize to
 the devs...)

streamripper is still active.  yum list streamripper is your friend.

The problem is that these sort of audio streams play with a flash player
and you must intercept the feed with something that is capable of
playing a flash stream.  I don't believe that streamripper can do that.
But mplayer appears to be able to. :)

See Sam's reply for more details on the whole process.

LG

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Re: How do I rip this sort of audio stream ?

2009-04-03 Thread Linuxguy123
On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 17:40 +0200, Nigel Henry wrote:
 On Friday 03 April 2009 16:50, Linuxguy123 wrote:
  I'd like to rip the audio stream that plays (with Totem) when I press
  the Listen button on this page so that I can listen to it later in the
  day.
 
  http://streamingradioguide.com/streaming-schedule.php?station=KKFTservice=
 FM
 
  I can listen to it live just fine with Totem.  How could I record it so
  that I could listen to it later as an MP3 ?
 
  Thanks
 
  LG
 
 Hi Linuxguy.
 
 I normally use MhWaveedit for recording, but you will have to compile it from 
 a source tarball on Fedora. Link below.
 
 https://gna.org/projects/mhwaveedit
 
 You will need to install a few development packages to compile it, as below.
 
 libsamplerate-dev
 libsndfile-dev
 libasound-dev
 jack-audio-connection-kit-dev
 
 And if you want to save the recording as an MP3, you will have to install the 
 lame package, which is from the rpmfusion repo.
 
 Hope I havn't forgotten any of the development packages you need to install.
 
 It's a nice app, and I keep plugging it, although I have no connection with 
 the author.

Thanks for the tip, Nigel.   I have to admit that I don't go looking for
apps much outside of yum list *

I'll give this package a try and post how I make out.

LG


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Re: Safely remove USB stick

2009-04-03 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 14:25 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Friday 03 April 2009 12:22:44 Timothy Murphy wrote:
  I asked some time ago why there is no Safely Remove option
  in Dolphin on my Fedora-10/KDE system,
  which I can click on before removing a USB stick.
 
  I was told that there was such an option,
  but I don't seem able to find it.
  I certainly don't have a Safely Remove icon in my panel,
  as in the unmentionable system.
 
 Tim, you get the icon if you hover over the device name in dolphin.  That 
 way, 
 if you have more than one usb device mounted it is quite clear which one you 
 are going to unmount.
 
 Hover over it and on the right you'll see an up-arrow icon for unmounting.  
 If 
 it is not currently mounted, but it's still plugged in you'll see the device-
 name but the icon will not appear.

You can also hover over Computer in the Kicker menu (or whatever it's
called now) and right-click on the Removable Storage icon. This works
even without Dolphin.

poc

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Re: the proper way to identify the bitness of your kernel and CPU

2009-04-03 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:

 2009/4/3 Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca:
 
   what is the fedora-approved way to identify the wordsize of both
  your running kernel and your CPU?  for the kernel, i'm used to running
 
   $ uname -r
 
  and just looking at the suffix, which in my case would be either
  i686 or x86_64.  is there a simpler way?

 # man arch
NAME
arch - print machine hardware name (same as uname -m)

 # arch
 x86_64

 # uname -m
 x86_64

  hang on ... if i have a 32-bit kernel running on a 64-bit CPU, what
will the above print?  i'd want it to print, well, i686 or something
that represents 32 bits.  is that what it would do?

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Re: Safely remove USB stick

2009-04-03 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 03 April 2009 20:09:06 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 14:25 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Friday 03 April 2009 12:22:44 Timothy Murphy wrote:
   I asked some time ago why there is no Safely Remove option
   in Dolphin on my Fedora-10/KDE system,
   which I can click on before removing a USB stick.
  
   I was told that there was such an option,
   but I don't seem able to find it.
   I certainly don't have a Safely Remove icon in my panel,
   as in the unmentionable system.
 
Methinks I had a brain-fart when I wrote this, so corrections coming up.

  Tim, you get the icon if you hover over the device name in dolphin.  That
  way, if you have more than one usb device mounted it is quite clear which
  one you are going to unmount.
 
This described the action in the Notifier Widget.  In dolphin you need the 
Places panel open (You do know you can add places as bookmarks, there, don't 
you?).  Right-click on the device name should give you Safely Remove.

  Hover over it and on the right you'll see an up-arrow icon for
  unmounting.  If it is not currently mounted, but it's still plugged in
  you'll see the device- name but the icon will not appear.

This is also the Notifier Widget.

 You can also hover over Computer in the Kicker menu (or whatever it's
 called now) and right-click on the Removable Storage icon. This works
 even without Dolphin.

I hadn't noticed that one, as I rarely use kickoff apart from shutting down.

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Re: Kde freezes in Fedora 10

2009-04-03 Thread Robin Laing

GMS S wrote:

Hi,
rpm -qa | grep kde





After running firefox or konqueror kde freezes but the mouse moves.
Can anyone give any idea?

Thanks.



Does the keyboard still work?  Does CTRL+BACKSPACE kill the xwindows? 
New or old machine?


I have had this happen on an older AMD machine.  I am still tracing the 
issue down to something.  My machine locks up from time to time.  I see 
that the load goes up before it does lock up.  Only once have I gotten a 
message in any log.  I need to change a drive controller.


Seagate drives?  Could be related to the driver issue that there is an 
update for.



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Re: Safely remove USB stick

2009-04-03 Thread Timothy Murphy
Terry Polzin wrote:

 On Friday 03 April 2009 07:22, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 I asked some time ago why there is no Safely Remove option
 in Dolphin on my Fedora-10/KDE system,
 which I can click on before removing a USB stick.

 I was told that there was such an option,
 but I don't seem able to find it.
 I certainly don't have a Safely Remove icon in my panel,
 as in the unmentionable system.

 Does your device have a desktop icon?  Right-click that icon and there 
should 
 be a safely remove option on that menu

I don't see any icon on my desktop.
There is an icon in my panel;
it is a small blue screen with the USB symbol on it,
and what looks like a white stand behind it.
When I hover over it, it says
Last plugged in device: ATV
(That is apparently the name of my USB stick.)

If I left-click on the icon a small window appears
with ATV beside a small USB icon.
When I hover over the icon it says
2 actions for this device.

When I (left or right) click on these words,
a larger window appears, which says
A new device has appeared. What do you want to do?,
the options being: Open with Dolphin, 
Download Photos with digiKam, and Do nothing.

If I click on the first option Dolphin shows me the contents of my stick.

Now I see that ATV is listed among the devices on the left;
and if I right-click on ATV I am indeed given the option,
Safely remove 'ATV'.

When I click on this the contents of my stick disappear.

However, the light on my stick remains on.
IIRC, under Windows when I click on Safely Remove
and choose the USB stick to remove,
the light on the stick goes off,
which I find reassuring.









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Re: the proper way to identify the bitness of your kernel and CPU

2009-04-03 Thread Sharpe, Sam J
2009/4/3 Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca:
 On Fri, 3 Apr 2009, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:

 2009/4/3 Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca:
 
   what is the fedora-approved way to identify the wordsize of both
  your running kernel and your CPU?  for the kernel, i'm used to running
 
   $ uname -r
 
  and just looking at the suffix, which in my case would be either
  i686 or x86_64.  is there a simpler way?

 # man arch
    NAME
        arch - print machine hardware name (same as uname -m)

 # arch
 x86_64

 # uname -m
 x86_64

  hang on ... if i have a 32-bit kernel running on a 64-bit CPU, what
 will the above print?  i'd want it to print, well, i686 or something
 that represents 32 bits.  is that what it would do?

Yes, it's the right way to run uname -r and look at the suffix...
it's the same thing, only it just prints out the suffix.

e.g. A 64bit capable CPU with a 32 bit (RHEL5) OS:

[...@machine ~]$ arch
i686 (this represents the installed kernel architecture)

[...@machine ~]$ [[ $(grep lm /proc/cpuinfo) ]]  echo x86_64 || echo i686
x86_64 (this represents the processor architecture)

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RE: Building gcc and NS-2 Problems

2009-04-03 Thread John
Can anyone offer help building the NS-2 network simulator
package?

Is this the wrong forum to ask this kind of question?

John

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Subject: Building gcc and NS-2 Problems


All,

There really is a question at the end... Sorry for the length.

My goal is to run NS-2 on a non-network connected Pentium
4 box.

I have downloaded the ISO install for Fedora 10.  It has
installed (appears to be running correctly).

I have downloaded the ns-2 all in one package.  I've built
it in the past on a windows box, but was unable to get
the environment variables set up correctly to run it. This
is my motivation for going to the stand alone system. I hope
to be able to have complete control over the environment
without the Windows system interfering.

The ns-2 installation script is failing to build the package
correctly.  I think it is because I don't have my environment
set up correctly. It does not seem to be finding the c compiler.
I have built a hello.c file and updated these environment
variables:

PATH has been extended to include:
/usr/libexec/gcc/i386-redhat-linux/4.3.2 and .

C_INCLUDE_PATH has been added as:
/usr/lib/syslinux/com32/include

LIBRARY_PATH has been added as:
/usr/lib/syslinux/com32/include

I'm sourcing the setup script and checking the new setting w/
env. At a terminal prompt (under a user account) I type gcc hello.c

It seems to be finding the compiler, but not the include files or
libraries of some kind. I get the following:

fileno fdopen fclose fread fwrite fflush main
Execution times (seconds)
followed by a table of compiler results.

I do not get an a.out file.

Finally a question. Assuming my diagnosis of environment variable
mistakes is correct, what are the correct environment variables
to set and set to what?

Is there a c compiler included in the ISO fedora 10 disk install?

Should I be building gcc?  That seems to need a c compiler too.
I have downloaded that package and tried, but failed with similar
results.

If I'm way off base, please point me in a new direction.

I appreciate any help I can get.

Sincerely,

John




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sendmail and FC9/FC10

2009-04-03 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
I have had some intermittent problems with sendmail transfer mail to our
gateway on some FC9 and FC10 installations.  I have had to create a cron
job in order to force the transfer of files in /var/spool/mqueue

0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * /usr/lib/sendmail -q

I have TLS active on all systems.  

At some point in time after several updates the problem has now
disappeared on all FC10 machines, but I have one FC9 machine that
continues to need the cron job

Has anyone else had this problem?  Any ideas?s
 
Greg Ennis



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Re: Safely remove USB stick

2009-04-03 Thread Timothy Murphy
Anne Wilson wrote:

 I asked some time ago why there is no Safely Remove option
 in Dolphin on my Fedora-10/KDE system,
 which I can click on before removing a USB stick.

 I was told that there was such an option,
 but I don't seem able to find it.
 I certainly don't have a Safely Remove icon in my panel,
 as in the unmentionable system.

 Tim, you get the icon if you hover over the device name in dolphin.  That 
way, 
 if you have more than one usb device mounted it is quite clear which one 
you 
 are going to unmount.
 
 Hover over it and on the right you'll see an up-arrow icon for unmounting.  
If 
 it is not currently mounted, but it's still plugged in you'll see the 
device-
 name but the icon will not appear.

Thanks very much.

I don't actually see the option if I hover over the name of the USB stick
in the Dolphin window; but I do if I right-click on the name.

It's a little disappointing that the light does not go out on my USB stick,
as it does in Windows when I click on Safely Remove.

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Re: the proper way to identify the bitness of your kernel and CPU

2009-04-03 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:

 [...@machine ~]$ [[ $(grep lm /proc/cpuinfo) ]]  echo x86_64 || echo i686
 x86_64 (this represents the processor architecture)

  and your opinion of

  $ getconf LONG_BIT

i'm guessing that is equally informative, yes?

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Re: the proper way to identify the bitness of your kernel and CPU

2009-04-03 Thread Sharpe, Sam J
2009/4/3 Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca:
 On Fri, 3 Apr 2009, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:

 [...@machine ~]$ [[ $(grep lm /proc/cpuinfo) ]]  echo x86_64 || echo i686
 x86_64 (this represents the processor architecture)

  and your opinion of

  $ getconf LONG_BIT

 i'm guessing that is equally informative, yes?

Apparently not, but I didn't know this until I did a bit of
reading/experimenting.

Take my example machine before which has a 64bit capable CPU but a 32bit OS:
[...@machine ~]$ getconf LONG_BIT
32

As you can see, it printing the kernel architecture, not a property of
the CPU. I think /proc/cpuinfo is always the right place to look,
because getconf reports only on kernel properties.

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Re: the proper way to identify the bitness of your kernel and CPU

2009-04-03 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:

 2009/4/3 Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca:
  On Fri, 3 Apr 2009, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
 
  [...@machine ~]$ [[ $(grep lm /proc/cpuinfo) ]]  echo x86_64 || echo i686
  x86_64 (this represents the processor architecture)
 
   and your opinion of
 
   $ getconf LONG_BIT
 
  i'm guessing that is equally informative, yes?

 Apparently not, but I didn't know this until I did a bit of
 reading/experimenting.

 Take my example machine before which has a 64bit capable CPU but a
 32bit OS: [...@machine ~]$ getconf LONG_BIT 32

 As you can see, it printing the kernel architecture, not a property
 of the CPU. I think /proc/cpuinfo is always the right place to look,
 because getconf reports only on kernel properties.

  h ... quite right.  i stand corrected.

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Re: the proper way to identify the bitness of your kernel and CPU

2009-04-03 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 14:34 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
 what is the fedora-approved way to identify the wordsize of both
 your running kernel and your CPU?  for the kernel, i'm used to running
 
   $ uname -r
 
 and just looking at the suffix, which in my case would be either
 i686 or x86_64.  is there a simpler way?  does one of the uname
 options reliably report just that portion -- the wordsize of the
 running kernel?
 
   and, secondly, regardless of the bitness of the kernel, what about
 identifying the wordsize of the actual CPU (since you can obviously
 have a 32-bit kernel running on an x86_64 CPU).
 
   my standard tricks are one of:
 
   $ grep lm /proc/cpuinfo(where lm stands for long mode)
   $ getconf LONG_BIT (should print 32 or 64)
 
 in that second case, would uname -p reliably show a 64-bit CPU, even
 with a 32-bit OS?
 
   thanks.
 
 rday
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Try this script, I think I got this from one of the guys on the Centos
list.

Greg Ennis

#!/bin/bash
echo -n Running 
RES=`uname -a | grep 64`
if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then
   echo -n 64-bit 
 else
   echo -n 32-bit 
fi
echo -n operating system on a 
RES=`cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep  lm `
if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then
   echo -n 64-bit 
else
   echo -n 32-bit 
fi
echo machine



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RM to mp3 script

2009-04-03 Thread Paul Ward
Hello,

Ok forsome reason this script will not convert the rm stream to an mp3
if it runs in the cron.
Can someone point me in the right direction on how to fix this.

The script is as follows:


#!/bin/bash

DATE=`date +%A`
SHOWNAME=$1
TSPLIT=$4
ALBUM=$2
DIR=/usr/local/bin/bbc_radio1
RECORDINGPATH=${DIR}/
WEBDIR=/var/www/bbc/
DURATION=$3
DURATION=`expr $DURATION \* 60`
ATTIME=`expr $3 + 5`
BITRATE=64
HISTORY=${WEBDIR}/history.log

_record() {
echo --  $HISTORY
echo Start REC: `date`  $HISTORY
echo  Recording $SHOWNAME  $HISTORY
echo  Length: `expr $DURATION / 60 ` minutes  $HISTORY

cd ${RECORDINGPATH}
mplayer -dumpstream -playlist
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/realaudio/media/r1live.ram -dumpfile
${RECORDINGPATH}${SHOWNAME}.dump -vc dummy -vo null 
 MPLAYPROCESS=$!
 echo $MPLAYPROCESS  /tmp/radio1.pid
echo  PID: $MPLAYPROCESS  $HISTORY
Kill process when show finished.
at now + $ATTIME minutes EOF
 kill -9 $MPLAYPROCESS
EOF
 sleep $DURATION  echo sleep finsihed  $HISTORY
kill -9 $MPLAYPROCESS  echo PID Killed  $HISTORY
echo Stop REC: `date`  $HISTORY
ls -lh ${RECORDINGPATH}${SHOWNAME}.dump  | awk ' { print Showname: 
$8  Size: $5 } '  $HISTORY
}

_convert() {
# convert stream to mp3 format
echo Converting Stream to MP3 `date`  $HISTORY
# ffmpeg -i $RECORDINGPATH$SHOWNAME.dump -f wav - | lame - -b
$BITRATE $WEBDIR/${DATE}_$SHOWNAME.mp3
#mencoder $RECORDINGPATH$SHOWNAME.dump -ovc frameno -oac mp3lame -of
rawaudio -lameopts cbr:br=40 -o $WEBDIR/${DATE}_$SHOWNAME.mp3
ffmpeg -i $RECORDINGPATH$SHOWNAME.dump -ab $BITRATE
$WEBDIR/${DATE}_$SHOWNAME.mp3  /tmp/convert.dbg  echo Conversion
done  $HISTORY

ls -lh $WEBDIR | grep ${DATE}_$SHOWNAME.mp3  | awk ' { print
Showname:  $8  Size: $5 } ' $HISTORY
echo --  $HISTORY
}

_id3tag() {
mp3info -d ${WEBDIR}/${DATE}/*.mp3
mp3info -a $ALBUM -l $SHOWNAME -t $SHOWNAME ${WEBDIR}/${DATE}/*.mp3
echo ID3tag set
}

_splitmp3() {
echo ${TSPLIT}
mp3splt -f -t ${TSPLIT}.0 -a ${WEBDIR}${DATE}_${SHOWNAME}.mp3  $HISTORY
}

_cleanup() {
#Cleanup Files
 mkdir -p $WEBDIR
 rm -v $RECORDINGPATH$SHOWNAME.dump
}

_record

_convert

#_splitmp3
#_id3tag

#_cleanup


I dont want to convert to a wav then mp3 as the files sizes will be
huge for the wav.

I run the script as:
xx xx * * * script.sh Show1 BBC 15 5

I understand parts of the script don't work yet but its the conversion
I am focusing on.
you can see I have tried some other variations of the conversion all
fail to work.
It only converts for a small time before stopping.

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Re: Yum issues..

2009-04-03 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 15:26 -0700, dco...@efn.org wrote:
 Message: 10
 Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 09:58:05 +0200
 From: Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Yum issues
 To: fedora-list@redhat.com
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
 
 On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 19:16:19 -0700 (PDT), dco...@efn.org wrote:
 
 Michael,
 
  [r...@boatbuyer grub]# yum install yum-updatesd
  Loading installonlyn plugin
  Setting up Install Process
  Setting up repositories
  dries
   [1/7]
  http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/10/Fedora/i386/os/Packages/fedora-release-10.1.noarch.rpm/repodata/repomd.xml:
  [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 01:21:34 GMT
 
 You've messed up your repository definitions somehow.
 Verify the definition of the dries repository. It looks as if
 you replaced the baseurl= with the URL of the fedora-release package,
 which is not correct at all.
 
 
  Sorry, didn't know any better.
 
 Keeping an eye on the output, Yum kept pointing to the dries.repo,
 and becoming desparate I Stuck a URL in there hoping..and waiting
 for the errors.
 
 fc5 is broken here along with a bunch
 of services and links. Still trying to update to 10, and then
 reading how important staying updated is.
 
 
 There must be a .conf file somewhere to change and make it point
 correctly?
 
 Is there even a dries respository anymore?  The seven now showing
 in repos.d look ancient.
 
 
 [r...@boatbuyer images]# cat /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora.repo
 [fedora]
 name=Fedora $releasever - $basearch
 failovermethod=priority
 baseurl=ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/10/Fedora/i386/os/Packages/fedora-release-*noarch.rpm
 #baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/$releasever/Everything/$basearch/os/
 #mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-$releaseverarch=$basearch
 enabled=1
 gpgcheck=1
 gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-$basearch
 
 [fedora-debuginfo]
 name=Fedora $releasever - $basearch - Debug
 failovermethod=priority
 #baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/$releasever/Everything/$basearch/debug/
 mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-debug-$releaseverarch=$basearch
 enabled=0
 gpgcheck=1
 gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-$basearch
 
 [fedora-source]
 name=Fedora $releasever - Source
 failovermethod=priority
 #baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/$releasever/Everything/source/SRPMS/
 mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-source-$releaseverarch=$basearch
 enabled=0
 gpgcheck=1
 gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-$basearch
 [r...@boatbuyer images]#
 
 'messed up...somehow' is the operative..
 
 Shouldn't I just delete all of them and build (one) correctly?
 
 My back is really against the wall. I now show no DVD or USB so
 I can't ISO an image, and Just read if updating from HD you can't
 ISO files on partitions controlled by LVM. Isn't LVM my Gui??

if you are attempting to use yum to go from FC-5 to F10, I would suggest
that you forget that. Then the fact that you have packages from 3rd
parties just simply piles on to the skills required to accomplish the
task, especially considering that the interim fedora repositories have
disappeared.

Best to back up /home and install F10 new/clean from live-CD or DVD

Craig


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Re: qgtkstyle on qt4

2009-04-03 Thread Kevin Kofler
David Hláčik wrote:
 No .qt or *qt* directory in home for me :(

Qt 4 uses .config/Trolltech.conf instead.

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Re: Interactive startup on F10. Pressing I doesn't work

2009-04-03 Thread Kevin Kofler
Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
 Name one that can't be solved with single user or rescue mode... I'm
 not trying to fight you, but I am interested in this discussion as
 I've never seen the point of Interactive Init.

It's easier to just bypass the crashing script than to debug things from
single user or rescue mode (which don't boot into a fully usable system).

I've used interactive boot occasionally to skip hanging init modules
(sometimes my own fault, adding bad stuff to rc.local is not a good
idea ;-) ).

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Re: Safely remove USB stick

2009-04-03 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 20:59 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 It's a little disappointing that the light does not go out on my USB
 stick,
 as it does in Windows when I click on Safely Remove.

If this worries you, try running eject /dev/sdc1 (or whatever the
stick is mounted as) from a Shell. eject /media/disk name might also
work. AFAIK that should call the actual driver to disconnect the stick,
but YMMV of course.

poc

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Re: Resizing with gparted for Fedora installation

2009-04-03 Thread Kevin Kofler
Mark Ryden wrote:
 1) Is it safe to do resizing with gparted ?
[snip]
 3) This can be done also by ntfsresize, thus:
 ntfsresize -s 20G /dev/sda1
 
 Is ntfsresize -s 20G any better ? safer? or is it in fact the same
 (but not from the GUI)?

As far as I know, gparted simply uses ntfsresize for NTFS resizing, so it's
in fact the same.

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Fedora Screen Resolution Won't Go Above 720x400

2009-04-03 Thread Daniel Blakemore
I am new to fedora and to linux in general.  I know a little bit of bash
because I have a mac but not enough.
I just installed fedora core 10 i386 netinstall (the dvd-rom drive on this
computer is thoroughly dead: stops reading and needs to be unplugged and
plugged back in every thirty of so seconds), on an AMD with 1GB of RAM and a
GeForce 5200 FX.
When I try to change the resolution, the drop-down only goes to 720x400.
I tried installing the nvidia driver and it broke X beyond what my linux
friend can fix.  I did a fresh install and now I have the same problem.
Please help.

Thanks a bunch,

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Re: sendmail and FC9/FC10

2009-04-03 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 14:59 -0500, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: 
 I have had some intermittent problems with sendmail transfer mail to our
 gateway on some FC9 and FC10 installations.  I have had to create a cron
 job in order to force the transfer of files in /var/spool/mqueue
 
 0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * /usr/lib/sendmail -q
 
 I have TLS active on all systems.  
 
 At some point in time after several updates the problem has now
 disappeared on all FC10 machines, but I have one FC9 machine that
 continues to need the cron job
 
 Has anyone else had this problem?  Any ideas?s
  
 Greg Ennis
 
 
 
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Everyone,

After reviewing some of the posts on this lists it appears to me that
sendmail is having trouble finding the network at start time, and unless
restarted or forced to read the queue it does not transfer any mail.

I have written a little perl script to restart sendmail after it
recognizes the network as being up.  This has solved the problem.

I do have NetworkManager running, and could not figure out a way to do
this other than to restart sendmail.  If you start this script in
/etc/rc.d/rc.local and create the appropriate sub directory as
the /var/log/smile it should at least bypass the problem with
NetworkManager.

Greg

#!/usr/bin/perl -w
# s.sendmail.check.prl.001
#
# This script will check to see if a network connection exits
# and is functioning
#
# If a network is not functioning it will wait for this to happen
# and restart sendmail so that it will process the queues
#
# by : Gregory P. Ennis Grapevine Texas  April 3, 2009
#

use POSIX qw(setsid);

#--
#Command Module

# This should fork the process to a daemon if you use the command line

defined( my $pid = fork ) or die Can't fork: $!;
exit if $pid;
setsid or die Can't start a new session: $!;

# This should redirect standard out and standard error to log files
open STDOUT, /var/log/smile/s.sendmail.check.log
  or die Can't write to s.sendmail.check.lp: $!;
open STDERR, /var/log/smile/s.sendmail.check.error.log
  or die Can't write to s.sendmail.check.error.log: $!;



$DATE = `date`;
chomp $DATE;
print Starting daemon for network checking for sendmail : $DATE\n;
sleep 300;

Fill_Strings;
Check_Network;
Restart_Sendmail;

exit $ERROR;

#-

#-

sub Fill_Strings {
$NET_FLAG = 0;
$NET_PRESENCE = ;
$count = 0;
$ERROR = 0;
}

sub Check_Network {

while ( $NET_PRESENCE eq  ) {
 if ( $count == 100 ) {
print Unable to restart sendmail network was never active\n;
$ERROR = 5;
return;
}
 if ( $count  0 )  {
sleep 10;
}
 $count++;
 $d_tmp=`date`;
 chomp $d_tmp;
 print Looking For Network # $count $d_tmp\n;
 $NET_PRESENCE=`/sbin/ifconfig eth0 | /bin/grep 'inet '
 /sbin/ifconfig eth1 | /bin/grep 'inet '`;
  }
   print Network Setup : ;
   chomp $NET_PRESENCE;
   $NET_PRESENCE =~ s/^\s+//;
   print $NET_PRESENCE\n;
   $NET_FLAG++;
}

sub Restart_Sendmail {

  if ( $NET_FLAG  0 ) {
 $arg = `service sendmail restart`;
 print $arg\n;
}
  else {
print Network connection could not be established\n;
   }

}

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Re: Fedora 3, 4 and 6 - Remote Upgrade Advice?

2009-04-03 Thread Kevin Kofler
Gabriel - IP Guys wrote:
 repo, and then follow that with a yum upgrade - rinse, and repeat until
 I'm at FC8 - I'll wait until 11 is in beta before I move forward to FC9.

Not a good plan, FC8 is already no longer updated (not even with security
fixes), and F9 will follow soon. You should upgrade all the way to F10. And
you should also not expect to keep it as long as you kept FC3, you're just
asking for your machine to get broken into by running ancient software with
many known unpatched security issues!

Fedora is designed to be upgraded at least once a year (preferably once
every 6 months), if that's not OK for you, you're using the wrong
distribution.

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