Re: F11 Art Schedule

2009-04-08 Thread Nicu Buculei

On 04/08/2009 04:18 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote:


I think maybe we should add several tasks on the schedule for explicitly 
blogging / otherwise announce (maybe via Fedora weekly news, any other ideas?) 
the current status of the artwork so it's known more widely than this list next 
time around.


I tried to closely cover the artwork development for Fedora Weekly News, 
but since we didn't have explicit requests, I had no requests for 
feedback to pass on.



TASK LIST STATUS


(John, I apologize these are different than your numbering scheme.)

1. Wallpaper Design
 - We have the basic design from Samuele in 1920x1600: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:King_1920x1200.jpg
 - We will need this iterated out into the various standard, 4:3, and 
widescreen formats. Dual-screen would be nice too.

2. Plymouth Splash - Charlie is waiting on Samuele for a design for this it 
appears?

3. GNOME splash - we have these designs and I will happily adapt them to fit 
with the lion: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/

4. KDE splash - same as #3 above

5. full screen splash for syslinux - nothing yet

6. grub splash - nothing yet (not sure if this is on the task list)

7. gnome screensaver lock dialog - nothing yet


Just installed the F11 Beta on my desktop, it uses the GDM screen for 
unlocking the screen, so we don't need the screensaver lock dialog any 
more (at least on GNOME)



8. anaconda square splash - Samuele put some mocks together 
(http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F11#King_Concept) but as we agreed a 
week ago, these are a bit too busy and still need to be simplified: 
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00015.html

9. firstboot vertical header - Samuele put one together that looks great 
(http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F11#King_Concept)

10. kdm - nothing

11. wallpaper extras - I do not think this is on your task list John but I 
think we need to add it. I want to try to revive the wallpaper project Nicu 
started so we can ship some nice extras wallpapers so the default wallpaper 
isn't the only thing we do. I was wondering if anyone has time to help me out 
with this? Or is it too late right now to do something like this?


I am not sure we have enough time for those extra wallpapers, what the 
deadline would be for them?
Martin started the collection of the wiki and at the time he talked 
about packaging. Martin, are you still up for for packaging them?


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Re: Fedora 11 countdown banner (artwork team release)

2009-04-08 Thread Nicu Buculei

On 04/07/2009 08:11 PM, Paolo Leoni wrote:

2009/4/6 Nicu Buculei
I like it better. I think it maybe is a bit too plain and trying to
find some way to make it a bit flashier. Maybe making it look more
like a sunrise? A glow around the statue?

I know that it's not perfect...but do you intend something like this?


Not exactly what I had in my head (in fact I was not sure what to do) 
but is not bad, is more flashy than the initial one. And as long as we 
don't abuse lens flares (i.e. not use them on *every* graphic), it 
should be OK.



https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/2/24/Deepsky-fedora11-countdown-banner_1c.png
https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/9/9a/Deepsky-fedora11-countdown-banner_1c.svg



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Re: F11 Art Schedule

2009-04-08 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
Hi Máirín,
thanks for detailed description of current status!

On Wednesday 08 April 2009 03:18:00 Máirín Duffy wrote:


 (John, I apologize these are different than your numbering scheme.)

 1. Wallpaper Design
 - We have the basic design from Samuele in 1920x1600:
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:King_1920x1200.jpg - We will need this
 iterated out into the various standard, 4:3, and widescreen formats.
 Dual-screen would be nice too.

It should go to to leonidas-backgrounds ASAP even it's not ready yet and not 
all versions are done. We talked about it with Nicu on IRC.

 2. Plymouth Splash - Charlie is waiting on Samuele for a design for this it
 appears?

 3. GNOME splash - we have these designs and I will happily adapt them to
 fit with the lion: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/

 4. KDE splash - same as #3 above

More likely same as #2 (and #1 too) as I'd like to go with fullscreen splash - 
one reason is some background image issues while using GDM, another I'd like 
to see same/similar user experience for user while booting as we had/have it 
for Solar. 

 5. full screen splash for syslinux - nothing yet

 6. grub splash - nothing yet (not sure if this is on the task list)

 7. gnome screensaver lock dialog - nothing yet

 8. anaconda square splash - Samuele put some mocks together
 (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F11#King_Concept) but as we agreed a
 week ago, these are a bit too busy and still need to be simplified:
 https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00015.html

 9. firstboot vertical header - Samuele put one together that looks great
 (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F11#King_Concept)

 10. kdm - nothing

Waiting for #1 to see how is going final wallpaper to look... Easiest way is 
only do small changes for Solar theme, preferred way to prepare something 
matching theme ;-) Depends on time...

As it's using same greeting XML as GDM, we can share it...

 11. wallpaper extras - I do not think this is on your task list John but I
 think we need to add it. I want to try to revive the wallpaper project Nicu
 started so we can ship some nice extras wallpapers so the default wallpaper
 isn't the only thing we do. I was wondering if anyone has time to help me
 out with this? Or is it too late right now to do something like this?

  It is also important to note that we are targeting the completion of
  final artwork and packaging a little less than two weeks from now on
  2009-04-16 so that it can all be in the Preview Release and have two
  weeks to shake out anything that needs final fixing before GA.

Please prepare pre-packages sooner... There's lot of work on KDE side...

 Thank you for this reminder and for helping keep us on track. It is really,
 really, really helpful.

One note to schedules: I think new artwork is feature and feature deadlines 
are really strict and really soon and I think artwork should be ready in time 
of feature freeze, to have time to respond users input for beta, then we can 
happily wait for release without rush :-)

Jaroslav

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Re: F11 Art Schedule

2009-04-08 Thread Martin Sourada
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 10:19 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
 On 04/08/2009 04:18 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
 
  I think maybe we should add several tasks on the schedule for explicitly 
  blogging / otherwise announce (maybe via Fedora weekly news, any other 
  ideas?) the current status of the artwork so it's known more widely than 
  this list next time around.
 
 I tried to closely cover the artwork development for Fedora Weekly News, 
 but since we didn't have explicit requests, I had no requests for 
 feedback to pass on.
 
  TASK LIST STATUS
  
 
  (John, I apologize these are different than your numbering scheme.)
 
  1. Wallpaper Design
   - We have the basic design from Samuele in 1920x1600: 
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:King_1920x1200.jpg
   - We will need this iterated out into the various standard, 4:3, and 
  widescreen formats. Dual-screen would be nice too.
 
  2. Plymouth Splash - Charlie is waiting on Samuele for a design for this it 
  appears?
 
  3. GNOME splash - we have these designs and I will happily adapt them to 
  fit with the lion: http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/art/f11/mockups/splash/
 
  4. KDE splash - same as #3 above
 
  5. full screen splash for syslinux - nothing yet
 
  6. grub splash - nothing yet (not sure if this is on the task list)
 
  7. gnome screensaver lock dialog - nothing yet
 
 Just installed the F11 Beta on my desktop, it uses the GDM screen for 
 unlocking the screen, so we don't need the screensaver lock dialog any 
 more (at least on GNOME)
 
  8. anaconda square splash - Samuele put some mocks together 
  (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F11#King_Concept) but as we agreed a 
  week ago, these are a bit too busy and still need to be simplified: 
  https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-April/msg00015.html
 
  9. firstboot vertical header - Samuele put one together that looks great 
  (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/F11#King_Concept)
 
  10. kdm - nothing
 
  11. wallpaper extras - I do not think this is on your task list John but I 
  think we need to add it. I want to try to revive the wallpaper project Nicu 
  started so we can ship some nice extras wallpapers so the default wallpaper 
  isn't the only thing we do. I was wondering if anyone has time to help me 
  out with this? Or is it too late right now to do something like this?
 
 I am not sure we have enough time for those extra wallpapers, what the 
 deadline would be for them?
 Martin started the collection of the wiki and at the time he talked 
 about packaging. Martin, are you still up for for packaging them?
 
Yup, I hope to put some packages together as soon as I have enough time
to do so.

Martin


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Re: F11 Art Schedule

2009-04-08 Thread Samuele Storari
Hi all,

I was very busy in those days, for today I will post the final dual wide 
wallpaper.
About the Anaconda image there's no refence needed 'cause I drawed it but my 
own as a vector part if you need it I can upload it on the wiki too.

And for the Plymouth screen I'm not sure of what I have to do...
I have to clean the anaconda header too today.

see you later with some new stuffs.

Samuele


- Original Message -
From: Máirín Duffy mai...@linuxgrrl.com
To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com
Sent: Wednesday, 8 April, 2009 3:18:00 AM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Bern 
/ Rome / Stockholm / Vienna
Subject: Re: F11 Art Schedule


Hi John,

Thank you thank you for the email -



- Original Message 
 From: John Poelstra poels...@redhat.com
 As a casual reader of the list I know some things are still in 
 flux and have changed and in some ways that is expected and good.  It seems 
 that 
 because the wallpaper was in beta you received feedback in time to change 
 course.  Maybe we should build a feedback period into the Fedora 12 schedule?

I think maybe we should add several tasks on the schedule for explicitly 
blogging / otherwise announce (maybe via Fedora weekly news, any other ideas?) 
the current status of the artwork so it's known more widely than this list next 
time around. 

I supported changing to the new design even though it has affected the 
schedule. I wonder how we should handle this in the future - it has affected 
the schedule negatively. We really need high-quality work like Samuele's work 
and I'm quite grateful for it, but I do not want to make a 
past-the-deadline-bend-the-rules thing a habit. o_O 

Jon McCann had some good ideas about doing more outreach to 
artists/photographers in the future and maybe doing a contest to try to get 
more artwork flowing in that he had shared with me a few weeks back. I think 
this might be a good new approach to try for F12.

 We've learned in past releases that it helps to keep track of how things go 
 (in 
 reality) compared to the estimated schedule so that the estimated schedule 
 for 
 the next release is more realistic and achievable.
 
 With that in mind, looking at the splash screen tasks listed in the link 
 below I 
 thought it would be a good idea to record what their completion dates were 
 ore 
 when you estimate they will be complete:
 http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-11/f-11-art-tasks.html
 (task numbers 10 to 21)

Here's what I know, and I hope Samuele will keep us appraised of his status and 
plans as well. If we don't hear from him by Thursday, I will take this Friday 
(10 April) to try finish up everything on the list that needs finishing and 
I'll try to do it on the list and in IRC as much as possible to keep the 
commnunication open. If anybody has time on Friday to jump in and help out, by 
all means, let's do it. (And if there's no plymouth splash by Thursday morning 
I'll take some time on Thursday to mock that up for Charlie, hopefully that's 
enough time before he has to leave for his conference, let me know if not 
Charlie!)

IMAGE LICENSE CONCERNS
===

First, I want to point out our source image license issues. I am not 100% 
confident that we're clear here because I'm not sure every image used is 
referenced and I am not sure about the attribution requirements of the authors 
involved, but here's my understanding so far:

1) Spray paint brushes:

http://www.blog.spoongraphics.co.uk/freebies/free-hi-res-spraypaint-photoshop-brushes-set-one
 
http://www.blog.spoongraphics.co.uk/freebies/free-hi-res-spraypaint-photoshop-brushes-set-two

Fedora Legal cleared these as Creative Commons Attribution 2.0 so they should 
be OK.

2) Rust Texture:
Luca cleared these with the author, see email here: 
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-March/msg00192.html The 
author explicitly mentioned he did not require attribution.


3) Lion photo:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tambako/494118044/
CC Attribution so shoudl be okay


I have two more questions about this topic:

1) Do we know how tambako and spoongraphics require that they be attributed to 
we can properly attribute them? I am not confident a mention to their works on 
our wiki would be sufficient. Perhaps a mention in the wallpaper package spec 
or in the XML file that stores the metadata about the image for display in the 
GNOME background dialog/capplet? How should we attribute these authors?

2) Are there any other sources here that aren't being referenced and that we 
need to clear? I admittedly have not cracked open the source files yet, and 
I'll be pretty disappointed to find additional graphics that have not been 
referenced. There is a different lion image in the anaconda graphics. Where did 
it come from?

TASK LIST STATUS


(John, I apologize these are different than your numbering scheme.)
   
1. Wallpaper Design
- We have the basic design from Samuele in 1920x1600: 

Wallpaper Extras - was: Re: F11 Art Schedule

2009-04-08 Thread Nicu Buculei

On 04/08/2009 10:52 AM, Martin Sourada wrote:

On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 10:19 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:

On 04/08/2009 04:18 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote:

11. wallpaper extras - I do not think this is on your task list John but I 
think we need to add it. I want to try to revive the wallpaper project Nicu 
started so we can ship some nice extras wallpapers so the default wallpaper 
isn't the only thing we do. I was wondering if anyone has time to help me out 
with this? Or is it too late right now to do something like this?

I am not sure we have enough time for those extra wallpapers, what the
deadline would be for them?
Martin started the collection of the wiki and at the time he talked
about packaging. Martin, are you still up for for packaging them?


Yup, I hope to put some packages together as soon as I have enough time
to do so.


Martin, Mo, let breathe a bit and make a plan:
- when do we need the extra wallpapers packaged? a deadline... since we 
talk about bitmaps, can we go with something absolutely minimal for the 
freeze and add a few more later?
- do we require some minimal specs for the images, like a minimum 
resolution?


I think I have some images that could do for nice wallpapers (mostly 
flower macros) and knowing about a deadline would be useful to 
prioritize some work (selection, gimping, upload).


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Re: F11 Art Schedule

2009-04-08 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 10:00:46AM +0200, Samuele Storari wrote:
 - Original Message -
  From: Máirín Duffy mai...@linuxgrrl.com
  To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com
  Sent: Wednesday, 8 April, 2009 3:18:00 AM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / 
  Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Vienna
  Subject: Re: F11 Art Schedule
  
  2) Are there any other sources here that aren't being referenced and
  that we need to clear? I admittedly have not cracked open the source
  files yet, and I'll be pretty disappointed to find additional
  graphics that have not been referenced. There is a different lion
  image in the anaconda graphics. Where did it come from?
 
 Hi all,
 
 I was very busy in those days, for today I will post the final dual
 wide wallpaper.  About the Anaconda image there's no refence needed
 'cause I drawed it but my own as a vector part if you need it I can
 upload it on the wiki too.
 
 And for the Plymouth screen I'm not sure of what I have to do...  I
 have to clean the anaconda header too today.
 
 see you later with some new stuffs.

Samuele,

Having the source is very important, so yes, please upload it on the
wiki as well.  So that lion in the anaconda image is your original
work?  It's MARVELOUS!  Is it wrong of me to think that the lion's
paws hanging over the edge of the graphic are really cool? :-)

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Re: F11 Art Schedule

2009-04-08 Thread Máirín Duffy

- Original Message 

 From: Samuele Storari sstor...@byte-code.com

 I was very busy in those days, for today I will post the final dual wide 
 wallpaper.

Good to hear from you! I really look forward to seeing (and trying out) the 
dual wide :)

 About the Anaconda image there's no refence needed 'cause I drawed it but my 
 own 
 as a vector part if you need it I can upload it on the wiki too.

Yeh, the vector source file would be really helpful! Please post it!

 And for the Plymouth screen I'm not sure of what I have to do...

You had said you'd make another mockup...

 I have to clean the anaconda header too today.
 
 see you later with some new stuffs.

Can you let us know what things you are working on so we'll know where the gaps 
are so we can help make the deadline? :)?

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Re: F11 Art Schedule

2009-04-08 Thread Nicu Buculei

On 04/08/2009 04:46 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote:

From: Samuele Storari:



And for the Plymouth screen I'm not sure of what I have to do...


You had said you'd make another mockup...


Or we can just go with Charlie's fourth design, we seemed to converge on 
earlier.


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Re: F11 Art Schedule

2009-04-08 Thread Samuele Storari
Hi all

Ok, I've early finish to upload the wide wallpaper and the sources too.

You can find all the materials on the wiki page.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:King_4070x1536.jpg

The header here was corrected I don't change the source cause I've only turned 
off the visibility of one layer
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Image:Anaconda_promp_screen_mockup.jpg

And the Anaconda Lions SVG too
https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/7/75/Anaconda_central_part.svg

For the plymouth I'd understand we use the greck style up and down my theme.

For other question... I'm here.

Ciao
Samuele

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From: Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com
To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com
Sent: Wednesday, 8 April, 2009 1:52:17 PM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Bern 
/ Rome / Stockholm / Vienna
Subject: Re: F11 Art Schedule

On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 10:00:46AM +0200, Samuele Storari wrote:
 - Original Message -
  From: Máirín Duffy mai...@linuxgrrl.com
  To: Fedora Art List fedora-art-list@redhat.com
  Sent: Wednesday, 8 April, 2009 3:18:00 AM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / 
  Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Vienna
  Subject: Re: F11 Art Schedule
  
  2) Are there any other sources here that aren't being referenced and
  that we need to clear? I admittedly have not cracked open the source
  files yet, and I'll be pretty disappointed to find additional
  graphics that have not been referenced. There is a different lion
  image in the anaconda graphics. Where did it come from?
 
 Hi all,
 
 I was very busy in those days, for today I will post the final dual
 wide wallpaper.  About the Anaconda image there's no refence needed
 'cause I drawed it but my own as a vector part if you need it I can
 upload it on the wiki too.
 
 And for the Plymouth screen I'm not sure of what I have to do...  I
 have to clean the anaconda header too today.
 
 see you later with some new stuffs.

Samuele,

Having the source is very important, so yes, please upload it on the
wiki as well.  So that lion in the anaconda image is your original
work?  It's MARVELOUS!  Is it wrong of me to think that the lion's
paws hanging over the edge of the graphic are really cool? :-)

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Re: F11 Art Schedule

2009-04-08 Thread Charlie Brej

Samuele Storari wrote:

For the plymouth I'd understand we use the greck style up and down my theme.


The background is still TBD but here is a possible progress bar in the style of 
the theme [1]. Talking to Jaroslav, I think we can make an identical effect for 
the KDM too.


What do people think?

I can tweak it (make is slower/faster more/less wobbly).

[1] http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~brejc8/temp/splash_leo.mpg

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[Bug 488398] /usr/share/ghostscript/conf.d/*.zh_* refers to *.ttf instead of *.ttc

2009-04-08 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #3 from Caius kaio Chance ccha...@redhat.com  2009-04-08 
02:13:26 EDT ---
(In reply to comment #2)
 You do not understand the problem. The ghostscript/conf.d/*map.zh_* files 
 are
 a set of distribution-specific/value-added config files which tell ghostscript
 what default CJK fonts to use when pdf files containing CJK text but without
 embedded font is encountered. 

Have you tested this on rawhide yet?

 On older fedora systems, the config files tell ghostscript to use uming.ttf 
 and
 ukai.ttf, because those are the fonts *available on the system*. Since 
 upstream
 has migrated to ttc, and fedora now follow upstream to ship uming.ttc/ukai.ttc
 instead of uming.ttf/ukai.ttf, the config files now tell ghostscript to use
 font files which no longer exist.

Could you please test on rawhide with installing cjkuni-fonts-ghostscript also?

 The problem is very well-understood and the solution well-characterised: the
 content of /usr/share/ghostscript/conf.d/*.zh_* should always refer to
 available and valid font files on the system. When the font file names have
 changed, the config files should be updated to match.  

I should've updated all of them, and they are packed in
cjkuni-fonts-ghostscript on rawhide.

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[Bug 488398] ghostscript files referred to outdated font info

2009-04-08 Thread bugzilla
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Caius kaio Chance ccha...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|/usr/share/ghostscript/conf |ghostscript files referred
   |.d/*.zh_* refers to *.ttf   |to outdated font info
   |instead of *.ttc|




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[Bug 488398] ghostscript files referred to outdated font info

2009-04-08 Thread bugzilla
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Caius kaio Chance ccha...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |ASSIGNED




--- Comment #4 from Caius kaio Chance ccha...@redhat.com  2009-04-08 
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Please kindly test if this rpm solves your problem:

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1284552

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rpms/chisholm-letterslaughing-fonts/devel chisholm-letterslaughing-fonts-fontconfig.conf, NONE, 1.1 chisholm-letterslaughing-fonts.spec, NONE, 1.1 import.log, NONE, 1.1 .cvsignore, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1

2009-04-08 Thread Ankur Sinha
Author: ankursinha

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/chisholm-letterslaughing-fonts/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv32211/devel

Modified Files:
.cvsignore sources 
Added Files:
chisholm-letterslaughing-fonts-fontconfig.conf 
chisholm-letterslaughing-fonts.spec import.log 
Log Message:
* Wed Apr 8 2009 Ankur Sinha ankursinha AT fedoraproject DOT org
- Initial rpm build



--- NEW FILE chisholm-letterslaughing-fonts-fontconfig.conf ---
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM ../fonts.dtd
fontconfig
  alias
familyfantasy/family
prefer
  familyletters laughing/family
/prefer
  /alias
  alias
familyletters laughing/family
default
  familyfantasy/family
/default
  /alias
/fontconfig


--- NEW FILE chisholm-letterslaughing-fonts.spec ---
%global fontnamechisholm-letterslaughing
%global fontconf65-%{fontname}.conf
%global archivename lleqcdd.zip

Name:   %{fontname}-fonts
Version:20030323
Release:1%{?dist}
Summary:Letters Laughing is a decorative/LED sans-serif font

Group:  User Interface/X
License:OFL 
URL:http://glyphobet.net/fonts/free/?font=lleqcdd
Source0:%{archivename}
Source1:%{name}-fontconfig.conf
BuildRoot:  %(mktemp -ud %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-XX)

BuildArch:  noarch
BuildRequires:  fontpackages-devel
Requires:   fontpackages-filesystem

%description
Letters Laughing is a decorative/LED sans-serif font

%prep
%setup -q -n letters

%build

%install
rm -fr %{buildroot}

install -m 0755 -d %{buildroot}%{_fontdir}
install -m 0644 -p *.ttf %{buildroot}%{_fontdir}

install -m 0755 -d %{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_templatedir} \
%{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_confdir}

install -m 0644 -p %{SOURCE1} \
%{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_templatedir}/%{fontconf}
ln -s %{_fontconfig_templatedir}/%{fontconf} \
%{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_confdir}/%{fontconf}


%clean
rm -rf %{buildroot}


%_font_pkg -f %{fontconf} *.ttf

%changelog
* Sun Mar 23 2009 Ankur Sinha ankursinha AT fedoraproject.org
- 20030323-1
- Initial RPM build
- bugzilla #491530


--- NEW FILE import.log ---
chisholm-letterslaughing-fonts-20030323-1_fc10:HEAD:chisholm-letterslaughing-fonts-20030323-1.fc10.src.rpm:1239173489


Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/chisholm-letterslaughing-fonts/devel/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -r1.1 -r1.2
--- .cvsignore  7 Apr 2009 03:21:53 -   1.1
+++ .cvsignore  8 Apr 2009 06:49:44 -   1.2
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+lleqcdd.zip


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/chisholm-letterslaughing-fonts/devel/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -r1.1 -r1.2
--- sources 7 Apr 2009 03:21:53 -   1.1
+++ sources 8 Apr 2009 06:49:44 -   1.2
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+9c5bdc7761cd5079125f7a468f873321  lleqcdd.zip

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2009-04-08 Thread Ankur Sinha
Author: ankursinha

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/chisholm-letterslaughing-fonts/F-10
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv4226/F-10

Modified Files:
.cvsignore sources 
Added Files:
chisholm-letterslaughing-fonts-fontconfig.conf 
chisholm-letterslaughing-fonts.spec import.log 
Log Message:
* Wed Apr 8 2009 Ankur Sinha ankursinha AT fedoraproject DOT org
- initial rpm build



--- NEW FILE chisholm-letterslaughing-fonts-fontconfig.conf ---
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM ../fonts.dtd
fontconfig
  alias
familyfantasy/family
prefer
  familyletters laughing/family
/prefer
  /alias
  alias
familyletters laughing/family
default
  familyfantasy/family
/default
  /alias
/fontconfig


--- NEW FILE chisholm-letterslaughing-fonts.spec ---
%global fontnamechisholm-letterslaughing
%global fontconf65-%{fontname}.conf
%global archivename lleqcdd.zip

Name:   %{fontname}-fonts
Version:20030323
Release:1%{?dist}
Summary:Letters Laughing is a decorative/LED sans-serif font

Group:  User Interface/X
License:OFL 
URL:http://glyphobet.net/fonts/free/?font=lleqcdd
Source0:%{archivename}
Source1:%{name}-fontconfig.conf
BuildRoot:  %(mktemp -ud %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-XX)

BuildArch:  noarch
BuildRequires:  fontpackages-devel
Requires:   fontpackages-filesystem

%description
Letters Laughing is a decorative/LED sans-serif font

%prep
%setup -q -n letters

%build

%install
rm -fr %{buildroot}

install -m 0755 -d %{buildroot}%{_fontdir}
install -m 0644 -p *.ttf %{buildroot}%{_fontdir}

install -m 0755 -d %{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_templatedir} \
%{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_confdir}

install -m 0644 -p %{SOURCE1} \
%{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_templatedir}/%{fontconf}
ln -s %{_fontconfig_templatedir}/%{fontconf} \
%{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_confdir}/%{fontconf}


%clean
rm -rf %{buildroot}


%_font_pkg -f %{fontconf} *.ttf

%changelog
* Sun Mar 23 2009 Ankur Sinha ankursinha AT fedoraproject.org
- 20030323-1
- Initial RPM build
- bugzilla #491530


--- NEW FILE import.log ---
chisholm-letterslaughing-fonts-20030323-1_fc10:F-10:chisholm-letterslaughing-fonts-20030323-1.fc10.src.rpm:1239174315


Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/chisholm-letterslaughing-fonts/F-10/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -r1.1 -r1.2
--- .cvsignore  7 Apr 2009 03:21:53 -   1.1
+++ .cvsignore  8 Apr 2009 07:03:30 -   1.2
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+lleqcdd.zip


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/chisholm-letterslaughing-fonts/F-10/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -r1.1 -r1.2
--- sources 7 Apr 2009 03:21:53 -   1.1
+++ sources 8 Apr 2009 07:03:30 -   1.2
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+9c5bdc7761cd5079125f7a468f873321  lleqcdd.zip

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2009-04-08 Thread Ankur Sinha
Author: ankursinha

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/chisholm-letterslaughing-fonts/F-9
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv5234/F-9

Modified Files:
.cvsignore sources 
Added Files:
chisholm-letterslaughing-fonts-fontconfig.conf 
chisholm-letterslaughing-fonts.spec import.log 
Log Message:
* Wed Apr 8 2009 Ankur Sinha ankursinha AT fedoraproject DOT org
- Initial rpm build



--- NEW FILE chisholm-letterslaughing-fonts-fontconfig.conf ---
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM ../fonts.dtd
fontconfig
  alias
familyfantasy/family
prefer
  familyletters laughing/family
/prefer
  /alias
  alias
familyletters laughing/family
default
  familyfantasy/family
/default
  /alias
/fontconfig


--- NEW FILE chisholm-letterslaughing-fonts.spec ---
%global fontnamechisholm-letterslaughing
%global fontconf65-%{fontname}.conf
%global archivename lleqcdd.zip

Name:   %{fontname}-fonts
Version:20030323
Release:1%{?dist}
Summary:Letters Laughing is a decorative/LED sans-serif font

Group:  User Interface/X
License:OFL 
URL:http://glyphobet.net/fonts/free/?font=lleqcdd
Source0:%{archivename}
Source1:%{name}-fontconfig.conf
BuildRoot:  %(mktemp -ud %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-XX)

BuildArch:  noarch
BuildRequires:  fontpackages-devel
Requires:   fontpackages-filesystem

%description
Letters Laughing is a decorative/LED sans-serif font

%prep
%setup -q -n letters

%build

%install
rm -fr %{buildroot}

install -m 0755 -d %{buildroot}%{_fontdir}
install -m 0644 -p *.ttf %{buildroot}%{_fontdir}

install -m 0755 -d %{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_templatedir} \
%{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_confdir}

install -m 0644 -p %{SOURCE1} \
%{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_templatedir}/%{fontconf}
ln -s %{_fontconfig_templatedir}/%{fontconf} \
%{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_confdir}/%{fontconf}


%clean
rm -rf %{buildroot}


%_font_pkg -f %{fontconf} *.ttf

%changelog
* Sun Mar 23 2009 Ankur Sinha ankursinha AT fedoraproject.org
- 20030323-1
- Initial RPM build
- bugzilla #491530


--- NEW FILE import.log ---
chisholm-letterslaughing-fonts-20030323-1_fc10:F-9:chisholm-letterslaughing-fonts-20030323-1.fc10.src.rpm:1239174501


Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/chisholm-letterslaughing-fonts/F-9/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -r1.1 -r1.2
--- .cvsignore  7 Apr 2009 03:21:53 -   1.1
+++ .cvsignore  8 Apr 2009 07:05:52 -   1.2
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+lleqcdd.zip


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/chisholm-letterslaughing-fonts/F-9/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -r1.1 -r1.2
--- sources 7 Apr 2009 03:21:53 -   1.1
+++ sources 8 Apr 2009 07:05:53 -   1.2
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+9c5bdc7761cd5079125f7a468f873321  lleqcdd.zip

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[Bug 477447] [python-tgcaptcha] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

2009-04-08 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477447


Bug 477447 depends on bug 489117, which changed state.

Bug 489117 Summary: Review Request: tulrich-tuffy-fonts - Generic sans font
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=489117

   What|Old Value   |New Value

 Status|NEW |ASSIGNED
 Resolution||RAWHIDE
 Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED



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[Bug 489117] Review Request: tulrich-tuffy-fonts - Generic sans font

2009-04-08 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=489117


Felix Schwarz felix.schw...@oss.schwarz.eu changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED
 Resolution||RAWHIDE




--- Comment #8 from Felix Schwarz felix.schw...@oss.schwarz.eu  2009-04-08 
03:04:20 EDT ---
Package built successfully:
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=97005

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[Bug 491530] Review Request: chisholm-letterslaughing-fonts - Decorative/LED sans-serif font

2009-04-08 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=491530





--- Comment #12 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org  
2009-04-08 03:18:13 EDT ---
chisholm-letterslaughing-fonts-20030323-1.fc9 has been submitted as an update
for Fedora 9.
http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/chisholm-letterslaughing-fonts-20030323-1.fc9

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[Bug 491530] Review Request: chisholm-letterslaughing-fonts - Decorative/LED sans-serif font

2009-04-08 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #13 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org  
2009-04-08 03:19:36 EDT ---
chisholm-letterslaughing-fonts-20030323-1.fc10 has been submitted as an update
for Fedora 10.
http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/chisholm-letterslaughing-fonts-20030323-1.fc10

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rpms/tulrich-tuffy-fonts/devel test2,NONE,1.1

2009-04-08 Thread Toshio くらとみ
Author: toshio

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/tulrich-tuffy-fonts/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv22368

Added Files:
test2 
Log Message:
Test adding a file



--- NEW FILE test2 ---

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rpms/tulrich-tuffy-fonts/devel test2,1.1,NONE

2009-04-08 Thread Toshio くらとみ
Author: toshio

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/tulrich-tuffy-fonts/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv24066

Removed Files:
test2 
Log Message:
Remove test.



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[Bug 477447] [python-tgcaptcha] Please convert to new font packaging guidelines

2009-04-08 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477447


Felix Schwarz felix.schw...@oss.schwarz.eu changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
 Resolution||RAWHIDE




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[Bug 477044] [Tracker] Deploy new font packaging guidelines for Fedora 11

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Bug 477044 depends on bug 477447, which changed state.

Bug 477447 Summary: [python-tgcaptcha] Please convert to new font packaging 
guidelines
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477447

   What|Old Value   |New Value

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
 Resolution||RAWHIDE



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--- Comment #11 from Felix Schwarz felix.schw...@oss.schwarz.eu  2009-04-08 
11:30:36 EDT ---
New package built successfully:
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1285504

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[Bug 494902] New: [te_IN] Incorrect glyph substitution for telugu letter ka followed by dep vowel AA then consonant sha and then viram

2009-04-08 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: [te_IN] Incorrect glyph substitution for   telugu letter ka followed 
by dep vowel AA then consonant sha and then viram

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494902

   Summary: [te_IN] Incorrect glyph substitution for   telugu
letter ka followed by dep vowel AA then consonant sha
and then viram
   Product: Fedora
   Version: 10
  Platform: All
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
  Severity: high
  Priority: low
 Component: lohit-fonts
AssignedTo: rbhal...@redhat.com
ReportedBy: arjunar...@googlemail.com
 QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: peter...@redhat.com, rbhal...@redhat.com,
fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com,
fedora-i18n-b...@redhat.com
Classification: Fedora
  Clone Of: 494158


+++ This bug was initially created as a clone of Bug #494158 +++

Description of problem:
Incorrect glyph substitution for   telugu letter ka followed by dep vowel AA
then consonant sha and then viram

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
2.3.8

How reproducible:
Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Type the letters for  కా ష్  with out the space between them in  gedit 
(u+0c15,u+0c3E,u+0c37,u+0c4d,space(0x20)
2.
3.

Actual results:
కాష్

Expected results:
కా ష్ (without intervening space )

Additional info:
This is common part of telugu /Indian names  consisting of Prakash.
substitution should  occur only for ka  followed by  viram and then sha
This problem is present for Pothana2000 also

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[Bug 488398] ghostscript files referred to outdated font info

2009-04-08 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=488398





--- Comment #6 from Hin-Tak Leung ht...@users.sourceforge.net  2009-04-08 
18:13:51 EDT ---
Created an attachment (id=338816)
 -- (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=338816)
log of how it was broken

Note that it says:
'Can't find the font file /usr/share/fonts/cjkunifonts-uming/uming.ttf'

(The correct path is /usr/share/fonts/cjkunifonts-uming/uming.ttc)

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[Bug 488398] ghostscript files referred to outdated font info

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--- Comment #5 from Hin-Tak Leung ht...@users.sourceforge.net  2009-04-08 
18:11:22 EDT ---
(In reply to comment #4)
 Please kindly test if this rpm solves your problem:
 
 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1284552  

Still broken, just in different ways. The base name now changes to ttc, but the
full path is wrong. I'll attach logs later.

Sorry I cannot share the pdf test file - it contains proprietary info - but if
you can find a equivalent pdf, the test is simply: gs -dNOPAUSE file.pdf to
see the logs I am posting.

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[Bug 488398] ghostscript files referred to outdated font info

2009-04-08 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #7 from Hin-Tak Leung ht...@users.sourceforge.net  2009-04-08 
18:17:23 EDT ---
Created an attachment (id=338817)
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new brokenness with rpms from comment 5

Different brokenness with rpms from comment 5. 

Note now it says Can't find the font file /usr/share/fonts/cjkuni/uming.ttc

The new rawhide rpm puts the file at
/usr/share/fonts/cjkunifonts-uming/uming.ttc
(note the extra bits -uming).

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[Bug 488398] ghostscript files referred to outdated font info

2009-04-08 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #8 from Hin-Tak Leung ht...@users.sourceforge.net  2009-04-08 
18:20:21 EDT ---
The config.d/*map* files just need to match exactly the locations and naming of
the fonts.

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[Issue 79878] OO.o can not select modern font faces conveniently

2009-04-08 Thread kamataki
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User kamataki changed the following:

What|Old value |New value

  CC|'belegdol,beppec56,cmc,dta|'belegdol,beppec56,cmc,dta
|rdon,fedorafonts,hdu,khira|rdon,fedorafonts,hdu,kamat
|no,masayan,mba,meywer,norb|aki,khirano,masayan,mba,me
|usan,ralphie,rene,thb,tora|ywer,norbusan,ralphie,rene
|' |,thb,tora'





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[PATCH] FC11: fix rh#491625 (Unable to run RHEL-5 Xen within KVM guest)

2009-04-08 Thread Marcelo Tosatti

Following adds a fix for $subject. Please review.

Don't have commit access yet so unable to commit myself.

 TODO|7 +
 kernel.spec |   15 +++
 linux-2.6-kvm-kconfig-irqchip.patch |   69 
 linux-2.6-kvm-mask-notifiers.patch  |  117 
 linux-2.6-kvm-reset-pit-irq-on-unmask.patch |   67 
 5 files changed, 275 insertions(+)

Index: F-11/TODO
===
--- F-11.orig/TODO
+++ F-11/TODO
@@ -102,3 +102,10 @@
 * linux-2.6.29-pat-fixes.patch:
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20803
ajax to follow up with jbarnes
+
+* linux-2.6-kvm-kconfig-irqchip.patch
+* linux-2.6-kvm-mask-notifiers.patch
+* linux-2.6-kvm-reset-pit-irq-on-unmask.patch:
+https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=491625
+Queued by Avi, needs to get into linux-2.6-stable.
+
Index: F-11/kernel.spec
===
--- F-11.orig/kernel.spec
+++ F-11/kernel.spec
@@ -720,6 +720,11 @@ Patch9101: linux-2.6-net-fix-another-gro
 # http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20803
 Patch9210: linux-2.6.29-pat-fixes.patch
 
+# kvm fixes
+Patch9300: linux-2.6-kvm-kconfig-irqchip.patch
+Patch9301: linux-2.6-kvm-mask-notifiers.patch
+Patch9302: linux-2.6-kvm-reset-pit-irq-on-unmask.patch
+
 %endif
 
 BuildRoot: %{_tmppath}/kernel-%{KVERREL}-root
@@ -1320,6 +1325,10 @@ ApplyPatch linux-2.6-net-fix-another-gro
 
 ApplyPatch linux-2.6.29-pat-fixes.patch
 
+ApplyPatch linux-2.6-kvm-kconfig-irqchip.patch
+ApplyPatch linux-2.6-kvm-mask-notifiers.patch
+ApplyPatch linux-2.6-kvm-reset-pit-irq-on-unmask.patch
+
 # END OF PATCH APPLICATIONS
 
 %endif
@@ -1905,6 +1914,12 @@ fi
 # and build.
 
 %changelog
+* Wed Apr 08 2009 Marcelo Tosatti mtosa...@redhat.com
+- linux-2.6-kvm-kconfig-irqchip.patch
+  linux-2.6-kvm-mask-notifiers.patch
+  linux-2.6-kvm-reset-pit-irq-on-unmask.patch:
+Fixes PIT bug with Xen on KVM (rh#491625).
+
 * Wed Apr 08 2009 Dave Jones da...@redhat.com 2.6.29.1-58
 - disable MMIOTRACE in non-debug builds (#494584)
 
Index: F-11/linux-2.6-kvm-mask-notifiers.patch
===
--- /dev/null
+++ F-11/linux-2.6-kvm-mask-notifiers.patch
@@ -0,0 +1,117 @@
+b018d32632d3c59d3618e23128e4312fe8e48d64
+diff --git a/include/linux/kvm_host.h b/include/linux/kvm_host.h
+index 3cf0ede..99963f3 100644
+--- a/include/linux/kvm_host.h
 b/include/linux/kvm_host.h
+@@ -127,6 +127,10 @@ struct kvm {
+   struct kvm_coalesced_mmio_ring *coalesced_mmio_ring;
+ #endif
+ 
++#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_KVM_IRQCHIP
++  struct hlist_head mask_notifier_list;
++#endif
++
+ #ifdef KVM_ARCH_WANT_MMU_NOTIFIER
+   struct mmu_notifier mmu_notifier;
+   unsigned long mmu_notifier_seq;
+@@ -320,6 +324,19 @@ struct kvm_assigned_dev_kernel {
+   struct pci_dev *dev;
+   struct kvm *kvm;
+ };
++
++struct kvm_irq_mask_notifier {
++  void (*func)(struct kvm_irq_mask_notifier *kimn, bool masked);
++  int irq;
++  struct hlist_node link;
++};
++
++void kvm_register_irq_mask_notifier(struct kvm *kvm, int irq,
++  struct kvm_irq_mask_notifier *kimn);
++void kvm_unregister_irq_mask_notifier(struct kvm *kvm, int irq,
++struct kvm_irq_mask_notifier *kimn);
++void kvm_fire_mask_notifiers(struct kvm *kvm, int irq, bool mask);
++
+ void kvm_set_irq(struct kvm *kvm, int irq_source_id, int irq, int level);
+ void kvm_notify_acked_irq(struct kvm *kvm, unsigned gsi);
+ void kvm_register_irq_ack_notifier(struct kvm *kvm,
+diff --git a/virt/kvm/ioapic.c b/virt/kvm/ioapic.c
+index 23b81cf..e85a2bc 100644
+--- a/virt/kvm/ioapic.c
 b/virt/kvm/ioapic.c
+@@ -101,6 +101,7 @@ static void ioapic_service(struct kvm_ioapic *ioapic, 
unsigned int idx)
+ static void ioapic_write_indirect(struct kvm_ioapic *ioapic, u32 val)
+ {
+   unsigned index;
++  bool mask_before, mask_after;
+ 
+   switch (ioapic-ioregsel) {
+   case IOAPIC_REG_VERSION:
+@@ -120,6 +121,7 @@ static void ioapic_write_indirect(struct kvm_ioapic 
*ioapic, u32 val)
+   ioapic_debug(change redir index %x val %x\n, index, val);
+   if (index = IOAPIC_NUM_PINS)
+   return;
++  mask_before = ioapic-redirtbl[index].fields.mask;
+   if (ioapic-ioregsel  1) {
+   ioapic-redirtbl[index].bits = 0x;
+   ioapic-redirtbl[index].bits |= (u64) val  32;
+@@ -128,6 +130,9 @@ static void ioapic_write_indirect(struct kvm_ioapic 
*ioapic, u32 val)
+   ioapic-redirtbl[index].bits |= (u32) val;
+   ioapic-redirtbl[index].fields.remote_irr = 0;
+   }
++  mask_after = ioapic-redirtbl[index].fields.mask;
++  if 

Re: [PATCH] FC11: fix rh#491625 (Unable to run RHEL-5 Xen within KVM guest)

2009-04-08 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 07:00:15PM -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
  
  Following adds a fix for $subject. Please review.

Looks fine to me, as long as it's been tested.

  Don't have commit access yet so unable to commit myself.
 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kernel#Contributing_to_the_Fedora_kernel
has all the details. We can hook you up.

Dave

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Re: Apache Config - how to make a directory accessable ? (SOLVED)

2009-04-08 Thread Uwe Kiewel

Craig White schrieb:

On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 23:18 +0200, Uwe Kiewel wrote:

max bianco wrote:

SELinux was in fact the issue !

Thanks for your help
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first. The webserver policy is pretty well tested and there are
several booleans that usually will cover most of your needs.


The question is: Does he need selinux? For a normal server it is too
paranoid I think. SElinux is the first thing I switch off after the setup.


I can see how life's easier when you disable technologies that
contribute to the overall security of your systems but I can't see the
logic of boasting about it.



My point of view: Use the technologies you need in your specific case - 
do not use every technology you could use.


Fedora enables SElinux by default - other distributions do not so.

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Re: initdefault has no effect

2009-04-08 Thread Sharpe, Sam J
2009/4/7 D. Hugh Redelmeier h...@mimosa.com:
 | From: Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com

 | runlevel=$(/bin/awk -F ':' '($3 == initdefault)  ($1 !~ /(#|;)/) { 
 print $2 }' /etc/inittab)

 Probably you meant ($1 !~ /^(#|;)/)

Actually I didn't - hence my comment:

 I've assumed that # and ; are comments and aren't allowed in the runlevel 
 descriptions.

# is definitely a comment
; this might be a comment
 # I consider a comment - # is the first non-whitespace character

Because It's only matching on $1 and split on colons, then the only
conceivable bad match would be something like:

id#:5:initdefault:

hence the assumption that # is not allowed in the runlevel descriptions.

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K3B freezes system (temporarily)

2009-04-08 Thread Michael Eager

When I run K3B on Fedora 10 (or past versions)
it pretty much freezes my system until it finishes.
Especially when erasing a CD, display, keyboard
and mouse are frozen.

I'm running a four-processor system.  What would
K3B be doing which would lock the system so that
it would not respond?

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F10 guest on CentOS 5.3 host using KVM

2009-04-08 Thread Jonathan Dieter
I'm running CentOS 5.3 on a server with four virtual machines running on
it, three running CentOS 5.3 and one running Fedora 10.  I have just
switched over to using KVM (kvm-0.84 and libvirt-0.6.1) rather than Xen
because I want my F10 virtual machine to be able to use virtio.

My CentOS virtual machines work perfectly, but the F10 virtual machine
hangs at weird moments, most often in the first few seconds or minutes
of booting.  All machines are completely up-to-date.  I've tested both
with and without virtio enabled and have the same result.  Any advice?

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grr my gnome suddenly ignores my .fonts.conf

2009-04-08 Thread David Hláčik
Hi,

let me explain you my problem.

I have my .fonts.conf file in my user home folder which worked all the
time, suddenly it stopped and settings there are ignored. It works on
my other computer with same Fedora 10 and not on my notebook. What
happened? It makes me angry, all the time something is broken.

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Re: grr my gnome suddenly ignores my .fonts.conf

2009-04-08 Thread David Hláčik
You know what's even more funny? That all my qt4 application respects
it but gnome not!

Best Regards,
David

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:12 AM, David Hláčik da...@hlacik.eu wrote:
 Hi,

 let me explain you my problem.

 I have my .fonts.conf file in my user home folder which worked all the
 time, suddenly it stopped and settings there are ignored. It works on
 my other computer with same Fedora 10 and not on my notebook. What
 happened? It makes me angry, all the time something is broken.

 Best Regards,
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FC7 to FC9 upgrade - keyboard shortcuts stopped working

2009-04-08 Thread Gary Stainburn
Hi folks.

I've upgraded one of my desktops from FC7 to FC9 and I'm having real problems 
with the KDE desktop.

The main problem I'm having is that I've lost all of my keyboard shortcuts.

I used to have:

F10 Mute/Unmute
Win+Left Volume--
Win+Right Volume++

These used to be configured using the mixer control

I then had a whole host of app shortcuts, e.g.

Win+K for kmail

which used to be configured using the Menu Editor.

Can anyone tell me how to get this back now I'm using FC9

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Re: FC7 to FC9 upgrade - keyboard shortcuts stopped working

2009-04-08 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 08 April 2009 10:08:17 Gary Stainburn wrote:
 Hi folks.

 I've upgraded one of my desktops from FC7 to FC9 and I'm having real
 problems with the KDE desktop.

 The main problem I'm having is that I've lost all of my keyboard shortcuts.

 I used to have:

 F10 Mute/Unmute
 Win+Left Volume--
 Win+Right Volume++

 These used to be configured using the mixer control

 I then had a whole host of app shortcuts, e.g.

 Win+K for kmail

 which used to be configured using the Menu Editor.

 Can anyone tell me how to get this back now I'm using FC9

Answered on the wylug list.  However, for the sake of the archives -

SystemSettings  Keyboard and Mouse  Keyboard Shortcuts - amend or create as 
necessary.  BTW, if you are not yet updated to KDE 4.2.2, get it as soon as 
you can, as a lot of problems are fixed there.

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Re: Fedora and Dell Vostro

2009-04-08 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 11:42:42AM -0700, Craig White wrote:
 On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 14:23 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
  On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 10:35:30AM -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote:
   Gary Stainburn wrote:
Hi folks,
   
Work's finally looking to get me a new laptop.  Can anyone tell me how 
they 
find Dell Vostro laptops with Fedora.
   
 
   I think Dell only sells Ubuntu on consumer machines. If you want Fedora,
   you'll need to install it yourself.
   If you go that way, try to get one with intel or amd/ati video chipset -
   nvidia is not well supported by open drivers. Other than that, pretty
   much everything else is supported.
  
  Actually, we've made good strides for support in the radeon and
  nouveau (ATI and Nvidia, respectively) open source drivers for Xorg
  lately, which will be appearing in Fedora 11.
 
 now if we could get xrandr up to 1.3 (I think it's still hanging at
 1.2.3), I could conceivably get virtual scrolling back.

Run this:

repoquery --repoid=rawhide --changelog xorg-x11-server-utils

The latest changelog entry concerning xrandr shows that the package
coming to Fedora 11 at this point includes 1.2.99.4, which I assume is
a 1.3 pre-release.

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openvpn - urgent help requested!

2009-04-08 Thread Timothy Murphy

I'm just about the depart for a week in Italy,
and have set up openvpn to communicate from there
with my server at home.

I notice that ifconfig on the server gives
inet addr:192.168.5.1  P-t-P:192.168.5.2  Mask:255.255.255.255
while ifconfig on the client gives
  inet addr:192.168.5.6  P-t-P:192.168.5.5  Mask:255.255.255.255
with a different P-t-P address.

Does this matter?
I see from my notes that when I last carried out this exercise
the two P-t-P addresses were the same.
(Unfortunately that was with a different server no longer with us.)

On the previous occasion both server and client were running Fedora.
Now the server is running Centos-5.3 and the client Fedora-10.

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Re: openvpn - urgent help requested!

2009-04-08 Thread Tony Molloy
On Wednesday 08 April 2009 12:46:59 Timothy Murphy wrote:
 I'm just about the depart for a week in Italy,
 and have set up openvpn to communicate from there
 with my server at home.

 I notice that ifconfig on the server gives
 inet addr:192.168.5.1  P-t-P:192.168.5.2  Mask:255.255.255.255
 while ifconfig on the client gives
   inet addr:192.168.5.6  P-t-P:192.168.5.5  Mask:255.255.255.255
 with a different P-t-P address.

 Does this matter?
 I see from my notes that when I last carried out this exercise
 the two P-t-P addresses were the same.
 (Unfortunately that was with a different server no longer with us.)

 On the previous occasion both server and client were running Fedora.
 Now the server is running Centos-5.3 and the client Fedora-10.

 Any enlightenment gratefully received.

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Is this OpenVPN 2.x

Are you using topology subnet in your server.conf file.


I've just set another server this morning and this is what I have. This is on 
Centos 5.3

openvpn-2.1-0.29.rc15.el5

ifconfig -a
tun0  Link encap:UNSPEC  HWaddr 
00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00  
  inet addr:192.168.166.1  P-t-P:192.168.166.1  Mask:255.255.255.0


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Re: Apache Config - how to make a directory accessable ? (SOLVED)

2009-04-08 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 08:06 +0200, Uwe Kiewel wrote:
 Craig White schrieb:
  On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 23:18 +0200, Uwe Kiewel wrote:
  max bianco wrote:
  SELinux was in fact the issue !
 
  Thanks for your help
  --
   If you think you need to add policy rules , ask on fedora-selinux
  first. The webserver policy is pretty well tested and there are
  several booleans that usually will cover most of your needs.
 
  The question is: Does he need selinux? For a normal server it is too
  paranoid I think. SElinux is the first thing I switch off after the setup.
  
  I can see how life's easier when you disable technologies that
  contribute to the overall security of your systems but I can't see the
  logic of boasting about it.
  
 
 My point of view: Use the technologies you need in your specific case - 
 do not use every technology you could use.
 
 Fedora enables SElinux by default - other distributions do not so.

Those are separate issues.

Fedora is an edge distribution that drives Linux development in ways
that few other distributions can. 

RHEL (and it's various derivatives) definitely use SELinux and I find
that like all other technologies, I begin to grasp how they work over
time so the more I am exposed to the care and feeding, the more I
understand.

Other distributions - some of them have them but their adoption is
miniscule because it's not mandatory.

Security always seems to mean that you have to endure the learning curve
in order to implement. SELinux...yeah, it's like that.

Craig


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Re: Fedora and Dell Vostro

2009-04-08 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 07:38 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 11:42:42AM -0700, Craig White wrote:
  On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 14:23 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
   On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 10:35:30AM -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote:
Gary Stainburn wrote:
 Hi folks,

 Work's finally looking to get me a new laptop.  Can anyone tell me 
 how they 
 find Dell Vostro laptops with Fedora.

  
I think Dell only sells Ubuntu on consumer machines. If you want Fedora,
you'll need to install it yourself.
If you go that way, try to get one with intel or amd/ati video chipset -
nvidia is not well supported by open drivers. Other than that, pretty
much everything else is supported.
   
   Actually, we've made good strides for support in the radeon and
   nouveau (ATI and Nvidia, respectively) open source drivers for Xorg
   lately, which will be appearing in Fedora 11.
  
  now if we could get xrandr up to 1.3 (I think it's still hanging at
  1.2.3), I could conceivably get virtual scrolling back.
 
 Run this:
 
 repoquery --repoid=rawhide --changelog xorg-x11-server-utils
 
 The latest changelog entry concerning xrandr shows that the package
 coming to Fedora 11 at this point includes 1.2.99.4, which I assume is
 a 1.3 pre-release.

son of gun...I love you man

I had downloaded the F11-Beta-DVD, loop mounted the iso and did an rpm
-qp --changelog on xorg-x11-server-utils and it only listed 1.2.3 for
xrandr

I was frustrated in my attempts to install the F11-Beta and I figured
why go through the pain if it can't cure my problem. I will get it
installed at some point today.

My Aspire One tiny screen might get virtual scrolling after
all...yippee!

Craig


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Re: Chown ???

2009-04-08 Thread g
Paul Newell wrote:

  From The Unix Programming Environment by Brian W. Kernighan and Rob 
 Pike (c) 1984 (I think mine is 5th printing of that first edition) page 52:

not to argue a point, but.

'su' is 'substitute user' as you can substitute to *any* 'user' or 'group', not 
just 'root user'.
you are a 'super user' if you you become 'root' or 'adm'.

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Re: K3B freezes system (temporarily)

2009-04-08 Thread Rex Dieter
Michael Eager wrote:

 When I run K3B on Fedora 10 (or past versions)
 it pretty much freezes my system until it finishes.
 Especially when erasing a CD, display, keyboard
 and mouse are frozen.
 
 I'm running a four-processor system.  What would
 K3B be doing which would lock the system so that
 it would not respond?

only I/O to your cd/dvd burner should be going on here.

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Re: Chown ???

2009-04-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 13:11 +, g wrote:
 Paul Newell wrote:
 
   From The Unix Programming Environment by Brian W. Kernighan and Rob 
  Pike (c) 1984 (I think mine is 5th printing of that first edition) page 52:
 
 not to argue a point, but.
 
 'su' is 'substitute user' as you can substitute to *any* 'user' or 'group', 
 not just 'root user'.
 you are a 'super user' if you you become 'root' or 'adm'.

The original meaning of 'su' is 'superuser'. You can find it in Unix
manuals from the 1970s. 'Substitute user' is a lame back-formation from
when the command was extended to allow changing effective id's to any
user and not just root.

DOS systems have no concept of user privilege, and hence have no concept
of superuser. Windows systems do have user privileges but AFAIK they
don't use the superuser terminology.

poc

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Re: Need help with Reboot cause

2009-04-08 Thread Peter J. Stieber

PS = Pete Stieber
PS running the latest x86_64 Fedora 10 kernel that I
PS recently loaded (April 2).  The machine reboots
PS without warning.

g where you previously running 32 bit?

No.  I've been running x86_64 since I first assembled the machine back 
in September 2004.  I started with Fedora Core 2.


g how soon after loading f10 64 bit did problem start?

I noticed it a few times before the latest kernel, but now it is more 
frequent.


g is there any consistency in reboot, that is, how often?

I'm starting to notice a pattern that makes me think I should look at 
cron entries.  Here is the frequency of reboot from a previous post...


Reboots indicated by information in /var/log/messages...

SundayMarch 29   4:08
Tuesday   March 31   7:02
Thursday  April  2  18:27 Intentional reboot due to new kernel
FridayApril  3   1:36
SundayApril  5   1:37
SundayApril  5   2:48
SundayApril  5   9:43
SundayApril  5  13:20 as I was typing this email

The only recent hardware change was the addition of a Belkin OmniView 
PRO2 4-Port KVM switch (F1DA104T).  I removed this device and performed 
the action (my nightly builds) that seems to cause the reboot with 
distcc turned off, a samba share I normally have setup disabled, and all 
of the cluster nodes turned off.


No reboot.

Next I cleaned everything, enabled distcc, turned on the cluster node, 
and reran the build.


No reboot.

Next I cleaned everything, enabled the samba share, and reran the build.

No reboot.

I cleaned everything and went to bed.  I left top running of a remote 
terminal so I could tell what process was running during the reboot.


The machine rebooted :-(  The time was 1:43 (very similar to other 
reboot times in my list above.


So it wasn't the Belkin KVM switch.

The top command indicates ld was running.  This was the case for 3 other 
reboots (see my prior posts)...


top - 01:42:20 up 15:10,  3 users,  load average: 1.94, 2.73, 2.53
Tasks: 130 total,   2 running, 128 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s):  5.0%us,  3.5%sy,  0.0%ni, 90.9%id,  0.5%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.2%si, 
0.0%st

Mem:   2060232k total,  1594892k used,   465340k free,47772k buffers
Swap:  2031608k total,31256k used,  2000352k free,  1289104k cached

  PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
27913 pstieber  20   0 90404  80m  952 R 15.3  4.0   0:00.46 ld
 6616 pstieber  20   0 14880 1204  872 R  0.3  0.1   0:49.58 top
27801 pstieber  20   0 83076 1140  740 S  0.3  0.1   0:00.01 make
1 root  20   0  4096  492  368 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.61 init
2 root  15  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kthreadd
3 root  RT  -5 000 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.58 migration/0


Result of last | grep reboot
reboot   system boot  2.6.27.21-170.2. Wed Apr  8 01:43 (05:08)
reboot   system boot  2.6.27.21-170.2. Tue Apr  7 10:32 (20:19)
reboot   system boot  2.6.27.21-170.2. Tue Apr  7 07:09 (02:03)
reboot   system boot  2.6.27.21-170.2. Mon Apr  6 06:56   (1+02:16)
reboot   system boot  2.6.27.21-170.2. Sun Apr  5 13:20   (1+19:52)
reboot   system boot  2.6.27.21-170.2. Sun Apr  5 09:43   (1+23:29)
reboot   system boot  2.6.27.21-170.2. Sun Apr  5 01:36   (2+07:36)
reboot   system boot  2.6.27.21-170.2. Fri Apr  3 01:36   (4+07:36)
reboot   system boot  2.6.27.21-170.2. Thu Apr  2 18:52   (4+14:20)
reboot   system boot  2.6.27.19-170.2. Tue Mar 31 07:02   (2+11:48)
reboot   system boot  2.6.27.19-170.2. Tue Mar 24 08:42   (9+10:07)
reboot   system boot  2.6.27.19-170.2. Mon Mar 23 06:35  (10+12:14)

Result of last | grep crash
pstieber pts/2  172.16.1.16  Tue Apr  7 19:27 - crash  (06:15)
pstieber tty1Tue Apr  7 13:15 - crash  (12:27)
pstieber pts/0  192.168.120.51   Tue Apr  7 06:55 - crash  (00:13)
pstieber pts/0  192.168.120.51   Mon Apr  6 06:36 - crash  (00:19)
pstieber pts/2  172.16.1.16  Sun Apr  5 13:46 - crash  (17:09)
root pts/5  192.168.120.51   Sun Apr  5 13:00 - crash  (00:20)
pstieber pts/3  192.168.120.51   Sun Apr  5 12:58 - crash  (00:22)
pstieber pts/4  172.16.1.16  Sun Apr  5 12:56 - crash  (00:24)
nalshura pts/2  172.21.0.9   Sun Apr  5 12:49 - crash  (00:31)
nalshura pts/1  172.21.0.9   Sun Apr  5 11:29 - crash  (01:51)
nalshura pts/0  172.21.0.9   Sun Apr  5 10:39 - crash  (02:41)
pstieber pts/0  192.168.120.51   Sun Apr  5 09:21 - crash  (00:21)
ctrott   pts/3  172.16.1.141 Fri Apr  3 12:12 - crash (1+13:24)
ctrott   pts/0  172.16.1.141 Fri Apr  3 10:06 - crash (1+15:30)
root pts/0  172.16.1.16  Tue Mar 31 06:59 - crash  (00:03)
root pts/0  mrburns.toyon.co Tue Mar 24 08:38 - crash  (00:04)
root pts/0  192.168.120.51   Mon Mar 23 06:33 - crash  (00:02)


g if reboot time is short, have you tried booting just
g to bios or boot prompt?

No.  The machine will run for a long period of time 

Re: Chown ???

2009-04-08 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 01:11:49PM +, g wrote:
 not to argue a point, but.
 
 'su' is 'substitute user' as you can substitute to *any* 'user' or 'group', 
 not just 'root user'.
 you are a 'super user' if you you become 'root' or 'adm'.

Bzzzt.  Wrong answer.  Thank you for playing.

I was at BTL in the very early '80s.  Writing kernel mods and drivers
for Unix, and teaching Unix internals to BTL employees.  It's always been
superuser.  I don't know where anyone got this lame substitute user
stuff, but it's not authentic.

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Re: Chown ???

2009-04-08 Thread Alan Cox
 I was at BTL in the very early '80s.  Writing kernel mods and drivers
 for Unix, and teaching Unix internals to BTL employees.  It's always been
 superuser.  I don't know where anyone got this lame substitute user
 stuff, but it's not authentic.

To quote the V7 manual page

-su  \-  substitute user id temporarily


So although a lot of people believe su is superuser, they are wrong. 

Alan

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Re: Chown ???

2009-04-08 Thread Jim

Dave Ihnat wrote:

On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 01:11:49PM +, g wrote:
  

not to argue a point, but.

'su' is 'substitute user' as you can substitute to *any* 'user' or 'group', not 
just 'root user'.
you are a 'super user' if you you become 'root' or 'adm'.



Bzzzt.  Wrong answer.  Thank you for playing.

I was at BTL in the very early '80s.  Writing kernel mods and drivers
for Unix, and teaching Unix internals to BTL employees.  It's always been
superuser.  I don't know where anyone got this lame substitute user
stuff, but it's not authentic.

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Well ! Now! All you other smart-ellicks thought you had it figured out. HA.

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Re: Forttran 77

2009-04-08 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 19:47 -0700, Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 08:05:23PM -0400, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
  mj...@lavabit.com wrote:
   hi to all
 
I want  help to install Fortran 77 on my laptop at
  present i am using FC9. please  help me .
 
  Install:
 
   compat-gcc-34-g77
 
  It sould give you a g77 command which will compile F77 programs.
 
 F77 is an 'old' fortran.   Are your programs equally as old?

I believe the gcc-gfortran package should support FORTRAN 77 as well as
more recent Fortrans.  I have seen reports of some issues with gfortran,
but I'm pretty sure it is intended to work, so problems should be
reported as bugs.

 
 One of the generic way to find packages like compat-gcc-34-g77 is:
 
   yum info all  /tmp/infoall
   less /tmp/infoall   # search for fortran or Fortran or FORTRAN.
 
 Of interest the Intel compiler suite for students has a good price.
 
 
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Re: F10: KDE and second display not working

2009-04-08 Thread Wendell Nichols


mike1993 wrote:

This is the 1st post I found that describes exactly the problem I have.

1 Nvidia 8600GTS card, 2 LCDs. 
screen0 - fully functional,

screen1:- just a default background. no functionality whatsoever.

Under gnome, everything is as it's supposed to be.

And I have kde 4.2.1
	 # nvidia-settings: X configuration file generated by nvidia-settings # nvidia-settings:  version 1.0  (buildmeis...@builder62)  Thu Feb  5 00:09:30 PST 2009 # Xorg configuration created by livna-config-display Section ServerLayout Identifier Layout0 Screen  0  Screen0 0 0 Screen  1  Screen1 RightOf Screen0 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer EndSection Section Files #FontPath/usr/share/fonts/default/Type1 ModulePath  /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/nvidia ModulePath  /usr/lib64/xorg/modules FontPathcatalogue:/etc/X11/fontpath.d FontPathbuilt-ins EndSection Section Module Load   dbe Load   extmod Load   freetype Load   glx Load   type1 EndSection Section ServerFlags Option Xinerama 0 Option AIGLX on EndSection Section 

!

 InputDevice # generated from
default Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/input/mice Option Emulate3Buttons no Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection Section 
InputDevice # generated from data in /etc/sysconfig/keyboard Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd Option XkbLayout us Option XkbModel pc105 EndSection Section Monitor # HorizSync source: edid, VertRefresh 
source: edid Identifier Monitor0 VendorName Unknown ModelName  LG L1953TX HorizSync   30.0 - 71.0 VertRefresh 56.0 - 75.0 Option DPMS EndSection Section Monitor # HorizSync source: edid, VertRefresh source: edid Identifier 
Monitor1 VendorName Unknown ModelName  LG L1953TX HorizSync   30.0 - 71.0 VertRefresh 56.0 - 75.0 Option DPMS EndSection S

e!
 ction Device Identifier
Videocard0 Driver nvidia VendorName NVIDIA Corporation BoardName  GeForce 8600 GT BusID  PCI:1:0:0 EndSection Section Device Identifier Videocard1 Driver nvidia VendorName NVIDIA Corporation BoardName  GeForce 8600 GT BusID  PCI:1:0:0 Screen  1 EndSection Section Device Identifier Device0 Driver nvidia VendorName NVIDIA Corporation BoardName  GeForce 8600 GT BusID  PCI:1:0:0 Screen  0 EndSection Section Device Identifier Device1 Driver nvidia VendorName NVIDIA Corporation BoardName  GeForce 8600 GT BusID  PCI:1:0:0 Screen  1 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Device0 MonitorMonitor0 DefaultDepth24 Option TwinView 0 Option

 !

 metamodes DFP-0:
nvidia-auto-select +0+0 SubSection Display Depth   24 EndSubSection EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen1 Device Device1 MonitorMonitor1 DefaultDepth24 Option TwinView 0 Option metamodes DFP-1: nvidia-auto-select +0+0 SubSection Display Depth   24 EndSubSection EndSection Section Extensions Option Composite Enable EndSection 

  


I have a laptop with an external monitor and it too uses an nvidia 
card.  I use the nvidia proprietary drivers and it comes with a NVIDIA 
X Server settings applet for configuring the xorg.conf file.  That said 
it sounds like you have configured your monitors for side by side 
useage.  You can probably drag applets from one to the other by moving 
them horizontaly?
In my case I use twinview because my laptop is closed most of the time 
and I only look at the external monitor.  This is the config for that:
# nvidia-settings: X configuration file generated by 
nvidia-settings   

# nvidia-settings:  version 1.0  (buildmeis...@builder3)  Wed Dec 12 
14:21:25 PST 
2007 



# /.../
# SaX generated X11 config file
# Created on: 2008-03-11T16:36:55-0400.
# 
# Version: 8.1
# Contact: Marcus Schaefer s...@suse.de, 2005
# Contact: SaX-User list 
https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/sax-users
#

Re: Chown ???

2009-04-08 Thread Steve Lindemann

Dave Ihnat wrote:

On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 01:11:49PM +, g wrote:

not to argue a point, but.

'su' is 'substitute user' as you can substitute to *any* 'user' or 'group', not 
just 'root user'.
you are a 'super user' if you you become 'root' or 'adm'.


Bzzzt.  Wrong answer.  Thank you for playing.

I was at BTL in the very early '80s.  Writing kernel mods and drivers
for Unix, and teaching Unix internals to BTL employees.  It's always been
superuser.  I don't know where anyone got this lame substitute user
stuff, but it's not authentic.



...and I've been at this since the 70's and always thought it was 
switch user.  Can't recall where I first picked that up (getting old 
and forgetful don't ya know) but if you think about it that's certainly 
a more appropriate name for su as it is used to switch from one user to 
another, not just to the superuser.

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Re: Chown ???

2009-04-08 Thread g
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

 The original meaning of 'su' is 'superuser'. You can find it in Unix
 manuals from the 1970s. 'Substitute user' is a lame back-formation from
 when the command was extended to allow changing effective id's to any
 user and not just root.

i am not in disagreement with this as i used *unix* in it's early form. my 
early unix
manuals are buried too deep to get to, so i can not quote from them or find when
change came about.

but this is not *unix*,  we are discussing *linux*. in *linux*, the command 
'su' is
'substitute user or group'.

in *linux*, 'su' gives a user who knows 'root' password, ability to become 
_any_user_
or a member of _any_group_. therefore, i again say, command 'su' is not 'super 
user'.

so if i give command 'su poc' or 'su paul', i do not become a 'superuser'. i 
simply
become user 'poc' or user 'paul'.

 DOS systems have no concept of user privilege, and hence have no concept
 of superuser. Windows systems do have user privileges but AFAIK they
 don't use the superuser terminology.

*msdos* systems and *ms windows* have very little concept of anything.

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Re: Chown ???

2009-04-08 Thread g
Dave Ihnat wrote:

  I don't know where anyone got this lame substitute user
 stuff, but it's not authentic.

then run 'man su' in a linux os and you will find out.

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Re: Chown ???

2009-04-08 Thread g
Alan Cox wrote:

 To quote the V7 manual page
 
 -su  \-  substitute user id temporarily
 
 
 So although a lot of people believe su is superuser, they are wrong.

thank you alan.

v7 seven is latest release manual that i have and among those that i can not 
get to.
it is revised from what some pre svr4 state. [as i recall any way]

yet again, tho, this is linux not unix.

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Re: Chown ???

2009-04-08 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 14:33 +, g wrote:
 Dave Ihnat wrote:
 
   I don't know where anyone got this lame substitute user
  stuff, but it's not authentic.
 
 then run 'man su' in a linux os and you will find out.

Since we're discussing the origins of the species in this thread a
historical copy might be of more relevance. Here's the complete page
that Alan quoted from:

http://minnie.tuhs.org/UnixTree/V7/usr/man/man1/su.1.html

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Re: Chown ???

2009-04-08 Thread g
Steve Lindemann wrote:

 ...and I've been at this since the 70's and always thought it was 
 switch user.  Can't recall where I first picked that up

possible from novell unix?

'switch user' / 'substitute user' = synonymous.

what would be interesting is how many know why unix/linux commands are terse. :)

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Re: Chown ???

2009-04-08 Thread Sjoerd Mullender
g wrote:
 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 
 The original meaning of 'su' is 'superuser'. You can find it in Unix
 manuals from the 1970s. 'Substitute user' is a lame back-formation from
 when the command was extended to allow changing effective id's to any
 user and not just root.
 
 i am not in disagreement with this as i used *unix* in it's early form. my 
 early unix
 manuals are buried too deep to get to, so i can not quote from them or find 
 when
 change came about.
 
 but this is not *unix*,  we are discussing *linux*. in *linux*, the command 
 'su' is
 'substitute user or group'.
 
 in *linux*, 'su' gives a user who knows 'root' password, ability to become 
 _any_user_
 or a member of _any_group_. therefore, i again say, command 'su' is not 
 'super user'.
 
 so if i give command 'su poc' or 'su paul', i do not become a 'superuser'. i 
 simply
 become user 'poc' or user 'paul'.
 
 DOS systems have no concept of user privilege, and hence have no concept
 of superuser. Windows systems do have user privileges but AFAIK they
 don't use the superuser terminology.
 
 *msdos* systems and *ms windows* have very little concept of anything.
 
 

My Version 7 Unix manual (i.e. 7th edition Unix, 1979) says:
su - substitute user id temporarily

My 4.3 BSD user manual says the same thing.

My 9th edition unix manual says:
su, setlog - substitute userid temporarily, become super user

And on Fedora 10, the manual says:
su - run a shell with substitute user and group IDs

In all cases, the user name is an optional argument and defaults to
root (i.e. the super user).

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Re: Resources to learn C

2009-04-08 Thread Wendell Nichols

Jorge Luis wrote:

* Frank Cox:
  

On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 11:39:45 +0930

I learned to type in school on huge Underwood manual typewriters.  (I was the
only boy in the high school typing class; I thought it would be a good skill to
learn.  Obviously, I was right.)



My ex-father in law had been in the Army during the Korean War.  He came home
with one piece of advice.  Kid, learn to type.  In the Army, a man who can
type is too valuable to risk being killed.

Cheers,

JL

  
I too learned to type in highschool (cause I was loosing 10-20 marks for 
bad handwriting).  That worked great, the teachers were so glad not to 
have to read my writing they let me write my exams in a separate room 
with my little electric brother typewriter.  It made a bit of a racket :) 
To learn C
-there are online courses and how-to books.   I liked the SAMS one.  
Pick one and run with it.
-Get Eclipse C/C++ IDE.  It will hold your hand and help you avoid 
stupid syntax errors till you get a feel for the language.

-work hard and don't give up!

Things that are spectacularly important:
-read and learn about the compiling and linking processes.  Know the 
differences and what messages relate to which one.
-get a grip on pointers!  Pointers and indexes from pointers are the 
root of most bugs.


have fun!
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Re: Chown ???

2009-04-08 Thread psmith

Alan Cox wrote:

I was at BTL in the very early '80s.  Writing kernel mods and drivers
for Unix, and teaching Unix internals to BTL employees.  It's always been
superuser.  I don't know where anyone got this lame substitute user
stuff, but it's not authentic.



To quote the V7 manual page

-su  \-  substitute user id temporarily


So although a lot of people believe su is superuser, they are wrong. 


Alan

  

from UNIX V6[1]

$ cat su.c
/* su -- become super-user */

charpassword[100];
charpwbuf[100];
int ttybuf[3];
main()
{
register char *p, *q;
extern fin;

if(getpw(0, pwbuf))
goto badpw;
(fin)[1] = 0;
p = pwbuf;
while(*p != ':')
if(*p++ == '\0')
goto badpw;
if(*++p == ':')
goto ok;





[1]http://www.roesler-ac.de/wolfram/acro/credits.htm#2

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Re: Chown ???

2009-04-08 Thread Dave Ihnat
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 02:33:02PM +, g wrote:
 then run 'man su' in a linux os and you will find out.

SU(1)User Commands   SU(1)

NAME
   su - change user ID or become superuser

   SYNOPSIS
su [options] [LOGIN]

DESCRIPTION
 The su command is used to become another user during a login session.
 Invoked without a username, su defaults to becoming the superuser.
 ...

From Ubuntu.  I don't care what others may say--I know the conventional
usage at Bell Labs, at least in Naperville, at that time and it was
superuser.  If it started out as something else in v7, it certainly had
changed by System III.

Remember there's been a long history of revisionism at BTL, usually for
political correctness.  When I was working on the Field Test Set (the
first portable running Unix--granted, about 50 lbs.--first off a tape,
then off a 5.25 floppy for which I had to write a driver), we had a
Master and Slave unit.  They wanted us to change the terminology
because it might be offensive.

In the end, what does it matter?

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Re: Chown ???

2009-04-08 Thread g
psmith wrote:

 from UNIX V6[1]
 
 $ cat su.c
 /* su -- become super-user */

and the key words above are *unix v6*

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Re: Chown ???

2009-04-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 14:40 +, g wrote:
 Steve Lindemann wrote:
 
  ...and I've been at this since the 70's and always thought it was 
  switch user.  Can't recall where I first picked that up
 
 possible from novell unix?
 
 'switch user' / 'substitute user' = synonymous.
 
 what would be interesting is how many know why unix/linux commands are terse. 
 :)


ttys

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Re: Forttran 77

2009-04-08 Thread Daniel B. Thurman

Matthew Saltzman wrote:


On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 19:47 -0700, Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 08:05:23PM -0400, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
  mj...@lavabit.com wrote:
   hi to all
 
I want  help to install Fortran 77 on my laptop at
  present i am using FC9. please  help me .
 
  Install:
 
   compat-gcc-34-g77
 
  It sould give you a g77 command which will compile F77 programs.

 F77 is an 'old' fortran.   Are your programs equally as old?

I believe the gcc-gfortran package should support FORTRAN 77 as well as
more recent Fortrans.  I have seen reports of some issues with gfortran,
but I'm pretty sure it is intended to work, so problems should be
reported as bugs.


 One of the generic way to find packages like compat-gcc-34-g77 is:

   yum info all  /tmp/infoall
   less /tmp/infoall   # search for fortran or Fortran or FORTRAN.

 Of interest the Intel compiler suite for students has a good price.


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This caught my eye.  I noticed that there is a gcc-gfortran compiler,
but missing is the legacy g77 compiler, more noticably, that neither
compiler appears in the cache.  This becomes self-evident when one
installs NetBeans, and notices that it cannot seem to locate the fortran
compiler because it does not appear in the /usr/lib/ccache folder.

Why is that?

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Re: Chown ???

2009-04-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 15:21 +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
  I was at BTL in the very early '80s.  Writing kernel mods and drivers
  for Unix, and teaching Unix internals to BTL employees.  It's always been
  superuser.  I don't know where anyone got this lame substitute user
  stuff, but it's not authentic.
 
 To quote the V7 manual page
 
 -su  \-  substitute user id temporarily
 
 
 So although a lot of people believe su is superuser, they are wrong. 

As I said already, 'su' *was* 'superuser', but it changed. My first Unix
system was 5th Edition, circa 1975, and I definitely remember it this
way. In fact that version of 'su' didn't even take an argument.

I can't find a 5th Edition manual on line, but the screenshot below is
from su(8) in the 6th Edition and corroborates what I'm saying.

Cheers

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libXpm.so.6

2009-04-08 Thread Levesque, Michael
I need libXpm.so.6 to install 2008b version of MATLAB and yet libXpm.so.4 is 
that only library present on my fresh install of Fedora 10. Is there an easy 
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Re: Chown ???

2009-04-08 Thread g
Dave Ihnat wrote:

 SU(1)User Commands   SU(1)
 
 NAME
su - change user ID or become superuser

and from where did this come?

ria, in fedora 8 linux;

SU(1)User Commands   SU(1)

NAME
   su - run a shell with substitute user and group IDs

SYNOPSIS
   su [OPTION]... [-] [USER [ARG]...]

DESCRIPTION
   Change the effective user id and group id to that of USER.
snip
GNU coreutils 6.9October 2007SU(1)

 In the end, what does it matter?

'it makes a difference to the sheep.'

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Re: libXpm.so.6

2009-04-08 Thread David Hláčik
Check if there is rpm package providing that by

yum provides *libXpm.so.6

If there is result you are lucky.

Br,
David

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Re: Chown ???

2009-04-08 Thread g
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

 ttys

'b-'. you did not answer which model and usage of paper. :)

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Re: Forttran 77

2009-04-08 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 08:09 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
 I noticed that there is a gcc-gfortran compiler,
 but missing is the legacy g77 compiler, more noticably, that neither
 compiler appears in the cache.  This becomes self-evident when one
 installs NetBeans, and notices that it cannot seem to locate the fortran
 compiler because it does not appear in the /usr/lib/ccache folder.
 
 Why is that?

$ rpm -qi ccache
[...]
Description :
ccache is a compiler cache.  It acts as a caching pre-processor to
C/C++ compilers, using the -E compiler switch and a hash to detect
^^^
when a compilation can be satisfied from cache.  This often results in
a 5 to 10 times speedup in common compilations.

ccache doesn't support Fortran?

None of the files in the ccache RPM appear to be related to Fortran in
any way.
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Re: libXpm.so.6

2009-04-08 Thread Rex Dieter
Levesque, Michael wrote:

 I need libXpm.so.6 to install 2008b version of MATLAB and yet libXpm.so.4
 is that only library present on my fresh install of Fedora 10. Is there an
 easy way to obtain this library?

matlab doesn't bundle it?  (I haven't tried their latest release here, but
they usually include all needed libraries).

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Re: Chown ???

2009-04-08 Thread Alan Cox
 As I said already, 'su' *was* 'superuser', but it changed. My first Unix
 system was 5th Edition, circa 1975, and I definitely remember it this
 way. In fact that version of 'su' didn't even take an argument.

That makes sense - so it changed description in v7 when the command
itself changed entirely.

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Re: Need help with Reboot cause

2009-04-08 Thread Louis Lagendijk
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 07:08 -0700, Peter J. Stieber wrote:

 
 Next I cleaned everything, enabled distcc, turned on the cluster node, 
 and reran the build.
 
 No reboot.
 
 Next I cleaned everything, enabled the samba share, and reran the build.
 
 No reboot.
 
 I cleaned everything and went to bed.  I left top running of a remote 
 terminal so I could tell what process was running during the reboot.
 
 The machine rebooted :-(  The time was 1:43 (very similar to other 
 reboot times in my list above.
 
You might want to check temperatures on the CPU and chipset when the
reboot occurs. Your problems sound like a hardware issue. When Memtest
does not show any issues I would suspect the PSU or cooling of the
system.  A bad capacitor may be too blame too. Did you visually incpect
the Caps on the motherboard? Any caps that have a domed top?

Louis

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Re: Forttran 77

2009-04-08 Thread Peter Skensved



  gfortran with  -std=legacy  will compile legacy g77 code ...

   peter


Peter Skensved  Email : peter at SNO dot Phy dot 
QueensU dot CA
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Re: Chown ???

2009-04-08 Thread Aldo Foot
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 7:15 AM, Dave Ihnat dih...@dminet.com wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 01:11:49PM +, g wrote:
 not to argue a point, but.

 'su' is 'substitute user' as you can substitute to *any* 'user' or 'group', 
 not just 'root user'.
 you are a 'super user' if you you become 'root' or 'adm'.

 Bzzzt.  Wrong answer.  Thank you for playing.

 I was at BTL in the very early '80s.  Writing kernel mods and drivers
 for Unix, and teaching Unix internals to BTL employees.  It's always been
 superuser.  I don't know where anyone got this lame substitute user
 stuff, but it's not authentic.

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___

For all intents and purposes the definition has changed over the years, but
the practical use remains the same. So,  if I'm user joe and do su - jane,
then I'm no becoming 'superuser', I'm [s]witching [u]users and I don't have
[s]uper [u]ser privileges. And if I switch to root, it's just another user on
steroids --really good ones.

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Re: Forttran 77

2009-04-08 Thread Daniel B. Thurman

Matthew Saltzman wrote:

On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 08:09 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
  

I noticed that there is a gcc-gfortran compiler,
but missing is the legacy g77 compiler, more noticably, that neither
compiler appears in the cache.  This becomes self-evident when one
installs NetBeans, and notices that it cannot seem to locate the fortran
compiler because it does not appear in the /usr/lib/ccache folder.

Why is that?



$ rpm -qi ccache
[...]
Description :
ccache is a compiler cache.  It acts as a caching pre-processor to
C/C++ compilers, using the -E compiler switch and a hash to detect
^^^
when a compilation can be satisfied from cache.  This often results in
a 5 to 10 times speedup in common compilations.

ccache doesn't support Fortran?


None of the files in the ccache RPM appear to be related to Fortran in
any way.
  

ok, I guess.  It says: compiler cache as a general term(?) and then
refers to C/C++ as an example?  Guess I am reading into it too deeply.

In Netbeans, I tried to add the full pathname of gfortran to the Fortran
input-box in the original base, but it refused to accept it. I suppose 
that

adding a fortran link to /usr/lib/ccache might work, but instead I decided
to create a new base with the /usr/bin pathname, and it worked.  
Potentially

there could be a conflict because there are two bases and it is not known
to me, which of these two bases take precedence when it involves the ccache.

Also, NetBeans does not fully support Fortran (gui editor, etc.) unlike 
Eclipse,

which has full support via the photran package.

FWIW,
Dan

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Re: Forttran 77

2009-04-08 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 09:52:52AM -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
 None of the files in the ccache RPM appear to be related to Fortran in
 any way.
   
 ok, I guess.  It says: compiler cache as a general term(?) and then
 refers to C/C++ as an example?  Guess I am reading into it too deeply.

It is called C Cache for a reason.  Fortran sources usually aren't
preprocessed, on the other side the Fortran compiler has to load all needed
modules (*.mod) and Fortran INCLUDEs, unlike C/C++/ObjC/ObjC++ the
preprocessed source in Fortran isn't necessarily self-contained translation
unit, so the way ccache works doesn't work with Fortran.

 In Netbeans, I tried to add the full pathname of gfortran to the Fortran
 input-box in the original base, but it refused to accept it. I suppose  
 that
 adding a fortran link to /usr/lib/ccache might work, but instead I decided
 to create a new base with the /usr/bin pathname, and it worked.   

I'd say Netbeans shouldn't rely on /usr/lib/ccache at all, after all,
ccache is purely optional (and often very much broken) package; ccache is the
first thing I uninstall on all my boxes if it happens to be installed by
default.

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Re: Forttran 77

2009-04-08 Thread Daniel B. Thurman

Jakub Jelinek wrote:

On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 09:52:52AM -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
  

None of the files in the ccache RPM appear to be related to Fortran in
any way.
  
  

ok, I guess.  It says: compiler cache as a general term(?) and then
refers to C/C++ as an example?  Guess I am reading into it too deeply.



It is called C Cache for a reason.  Fortran sources usually aren't
preprocessed, on the other side the Fortran compiler has to load all needed
modules (*.mod) and Fortran INCLUDEs, unlike C/C++/ObjC/ObjC++ the
preprocessed source in Fortran isn't necessarily self-contained translation
unit, so the way ccache works doesn't work with Fortran.

  

In Netbeans, I tried to add the full pathname of gfortran to the Fortran
input-box in the original base, but it refused to accept it. I suppose  
that

adding a fortran link to /usr/lib/ccache might work, but instead I decided
to create a new base with the /usr/bin pathname, and it worked.   



I'd say Netbeans shouldn't rely on /usr/lib/ccache at all, after all,
ccache is purely optional (and often very much broken) package; ccache is the
first thing I uninstall on all my boxes if it happens to be installed by
default.

Jakub
  

Ok, makes sense to me!
Thanks for the advice!

Dan

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Re: F10: KDE and second display not working

2009-04-08 Thread mike1993
TwinView works. No problems w/ it.  But I prefer to use Separate X screens 
option. And when I do (under KDE) there is not way to drag anything from one 
screen to another. It's run by 2nd X server. And on that screen all I can do 
just move a mouse. Nothing else.


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install to usb, when bios does not see usb?

2009-04-08 Thread jackson byers
Please bear with me on this newbie question,
my install experience is quite limited.

Is it possible to install to usb external disk when bios does not see usb?


In an older thread Feb 21, 2009 Re: kubuntu vs fedora initrd init files,

Mikkel responded:
 I have done it both ways - as a fresh install, and by taking a hard
 drive with an installed OS, and putting it in an external USB case,
 and the drive has always ended up as /dev/sda. This  is much less of
 a problem if you are using LVM and/of partition labels then if you
 are mounting partitions directly. (As long as your LVM names do not
 collide! ie more then one VolGroup00.)

 By far, the easiest is to do a fresh, expert install to a USB drive
 - it will even do the proper Grub install so that you can boot off
 the USB drive directly on any system that supports booting from a
 USB drive. You can do this when moving an install to an external
 case, but it is much easier doing it at install time.

 Mikkel


--is this advice  re fresh, expert install   relevant in my case
where it appears that bios does not recognize my usb external disk?

--if so, is that because the install cd/dvd
will see the usb? ie despite the bios problem?

--are you saying that it will do a proper Grub install to the usb MBR?
   your point being that then the usb disk could be booted off of another
   system whose bios does both recognize and support booting from USB drive?

--with my current box where the bios doesnt see the USB,
the proper Grub install to the usb MBR won't be seen?,
ie wont interfere with
booting my older installs (fc5,...) from the MBR on my sda scsi disk?

I do have that sda mbr backed up:
 [r...@bootp ~]# ls -l mbrbackup
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 512 Mar 14 14:13 mbrbackup
[r...@bootp ~]#

thanks for any help
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Fedora 10, Wine is not X86_64

2009-04-08 Thread Jim

FC 10/KDE

In Fedora is wine available for X86_64 ??

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Re: Chown ???

2009-04-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 17:24 +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
  As I said already, 'su' *was* 'superuser', but it changed. My first Unix
  system was 5th Edition, circa 1975, and I definitely remember it this
  way. In fact that version of 'su' didn't even take an argument.
 
 That makes sense - so it changed description in v7 when the command
 itself changed entirely.

Exactly.

poc

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Re: Chown ???

2009-04-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 15:27 +, g wrote:
 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 
  ttys
 
 'b-'. you did not answer which model and usage of paper. :)

asr33, paper scroll :-)

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Re: Fedora 10, Wine is not X86_64

2009-04-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 14:36 -0400, Jim wrote:
 FC 10/KDE
 
 In Fedora is wine available for X86_64 ??

Depends what you mean. The 32-bit Wine runs perfectly well on my x86_64
system. There is no 64-bit version of Wine.

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Re: Screensavers fighting

2009-04-08 Thread Beartooth
On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:01:41 +, g wrote:
[...]
 screensaver is a misnomer.
 
 intent of a screensaver is to keep from burning an image into phosphor,
 while in process, it is still burning phosphor.
 
 if you really want to save your screen, then use 'blank'. this will not
 burn phosphor and give added life over what a graphic screensaver takes
 away.
 
False hypothesis : I don't want to save my screen. Every monitor 
I've ever had to replace died of something else.

I do want to run xscreensaver: it may owe its name to historical 
accident, but it's still one of the art forms of the Internet, and I 
enjoy it. 

Jede Kunst traegt zur groessten aller Kuenste bei, der 
Lebenskunst -- Bertolt Brecht.

(In English, roughly, Every art contributes to the greatest of 
all the arts, the art of living.)

All hail Jamie Zawinski et al.!

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Re: Screensavers fighting

2009-04-08 Thread Beartooth
On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 12:47:42 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
[...]
 xscreensaver doesn't require gnome-screensaver.
 
 [frank...@mutt ~]$ rpm -qa | grep screensaver
 xscreensaver-base-5.08-5.fc10.x86_64
 xscreensaver-gl-base-5.08-5.fc10.x86_64
 xscreensaver-gl-extras-5.08-5.fc10.x86_64
 xscreensaver-extras-5.08-5.fc10.x86_64 [frank...@mutt ~]$
 
 You would be much better off to install either gnome-screensaver or
 xscreensaver and leave it at that.  I don't think they are intended to
 work together.

Whuddaya know? yum remove gnome-screensaver took away a couple 
of extras, but it left xscreensaver, and that still runs. Many thanks!

Did I just misread some requirement several releases ago, or is 
this a change?


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Re: Chown ???

2009-04-08 Thread Rick Stevens

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 15:27 +, g wrote:

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:


ttys

'b-'. you did not answer which model and usage of paper. :)


asr33, paper scroll :-)


ASR33s also had the paper tape punch and reader.  KSR33s did not.  I had 
both hooked up to my Altair 8800 back in '77 via 110 baud, 20mA current

loop serial interfaces.

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Re: [Request] Language support packages not installed by default

2009-04-08 Thread Beartooth
On Wed, 08 Apr 2009 04:27:45 +0930, Tim wrote:
[]
 It's really only the installer that needs to have multi-lingual support
 right from the get-go, to ask you what languages to use.  An installed
 system only needs the languages that you actually need.

Good point! All the more reason not to include umpteen bazillion 
of them as defaults anywhere else.

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Re: Classified Updates2

2009-04-08 Thread Steven W. Orr
On Tuesday, Apr 7th 2009 at 11:57 -, quoth Levesque, Michael:

=
=I just put a fresh install of Fedora 10 on a classified machine on a closed
=network. Is there a way that I can bring updates into the area since I can?t
=use yum?

I'd recommend that you need to contact your FSO to let him know that you 
just told everyone that you're working on a classified project. 

And I'd also suggest that if you don't actually understand that a 
classified lab does not have access to the environment outside the lab 
then you have a very fundamental problem.

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Re: install to usb, when bios does not see usb?

2009-04-08 Thread Kam Leo
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:26 AM, jackson byers byers...@gmail.com wrote:
 Please bear with me on this newbie question,
 my install experience is quite limited.

 Is it possible to install to usb external disk when bios does not see usb?


[snip]

 thanks for any help
 Jack


You have two problems to overcome:

1. You cannot directly boot from a USB device if the BIOS does not
support that feature.
Worth a try to see if there is a BIOS upgrade for your system that
allows booting from USB. (Highly unlikely.)

2. A device driver needs to be loaded in order to access the device.
   The driver and boot manager need to be installed on an accessible
device such as a floppy disk, CD/DVD, or hard drive.

Time to upgrade to new system or get a USB add-in card with BIOS extension.

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Re: Screensavers fighting

2009-04-08 Thread g
Beartooth wrote:

   False hypothesis : I don't want to save my screen. Every monitor
 I've ever had to replace died of something else.

system burn out from running screensavers. :)

   (In English, roughly, Every art contributes to the greatest of 
 all the arts, the art of living.)

i can find better things to do with my time than sit around and watch a
screensaver.

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Re: Chown ???

2009-04-08 Thread g
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

 asr33, paper scroll :-)

lol. too late. test is over.

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sudo and privoxy

2009-04-08 Thread Beartooth

My wife's machine is on a different floor. Nine times out of ten, 
when she hollers for help, it's a browser that won't connect; and nine 
out of ten of those times, it's because privoxy has somehow gotten 
stopped. (The other times, I usually have to reboot the router a/o the 
modem.)

I tried adding her to the privoxy group, using Fedora's Users 
and Groups app. But I still get : 

[b...@hbsk2 ~]$ su - tslg
Password: 
[t...@hbsk2 ~]$ service privoxy restart
Can't find /usr/sbin/privoxy, exit.
[t...@hbsk2 ~]$ sudo service privoxy restart
[sudo] password for tslg: 
tslg is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[t...@hbsk2 ~]$ 

What am I doing wrong??

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Wine Errors,

2009-04-08 Thread Jim

FC10-X86_64

Running 32 bit Wine on 64 bit box.
Running winecfg, get error message below
 
$ winecfg
ALSA lib pcm.c:2162:(snd_pcm_open_conf) Cannot open shared library 
/usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_pulse.so
ALSA lib pcm.c:2162:(snd_pcm_open_conf) Cannot open shared library 
/usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_pulse.so
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