Apache 2.2 vs. mod_mono (ASP.NET)

[Steven F. LeBrun]

When Apache [httpd 2.2.11] starts up on my Fedora 10 laptop and attempts 
to load the module mod_mono, it fails with a message that states that it 
is unable to write to /var/run and create shared memory segments. See 
details from error_log below followed by version numbers of Apache, 
mod_mono and Fedora.


The sixth line in the error_log shows where the error is first detected. 
See the line containing "[crit]". Following the timestamped log messages 
are more error logging including stack traces.


There is already a bug filed on this problem that was filed in November 
2008, Bug 472529 at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=472529. 
The version of mod_mono, 2.0.6, available from the non-raw Fedora 
repositories predates this bug report and was last updated in October 2008.


Does anyone know what is happening with this bug? Has a fix been found 
and/or is it still being worked on?


The comments in the bug report make it look like a patch to fix the 
problem was found but never incorporated into F10, unless the fix 
involves modifying something other than mod_mono files themselves. The 
"Fix in Version" field of the bug report is empty.


Is there a workaround other than not loading the mod_mono module?

error_log when mod_mono is loaded during startup:
==

[Fri Apr 17 02:30:40 2009] [notice] core dump file size limit raised to 
4294967295 bytes
[Fri Apr 17 02:30:40 2009] [notice] SELinux policy enabled; httpd 
running as context unconfined_u:system_r:httpd_t:s0
[Fri Apr 17 02:30:40 2009] [notice] suEXEC mechanism enabled (wrapper: 
/usr/sbin/suexec)
[Fri Apr 17 02:30:41 2009] [notice] ModSecurity for Apache/2.5.9 
(http://www.modsecurity.org/) configured.
[Fri Apr 17 02:30:41 2009] [notice] Original server signature: 
Apache/2.2.11 (Fedora)
[Fri Apr 17 02:30:41 2009] [crit] (13)Permission denied: Failed to 
create shared memory segment for backend 'XXGLOBAL' at 
'/var/run/mod_mono_dashboard_XXGLOBAL_1'.
[Fri Apr 17 02:30:41 2009] [notice] Digest: generating secret for digest 
authentication ...

[Fri Apr 17 02:30:41 2009] [notice] Digest: done

** (/usr/lib/mono/2.0/mod-mono-server2.exe:12651): CRITICAL **: 
_wapi_shm_file_open: shared file 
[/var/run/.wapi/shared_data-tardis.home.lebruns.com-Linux-i686-312-12-0] 
open error: No such file or directory


** (/usr/lib/mono/2.0/mod-mono-server2.exe:12651): CRITICAL **: 
_wapi_shm_attach: shared file 
[/var/run/.wapi/shared_data-tardis.home.lebruns.com-Linux-i686-312-12-0] 
open error

**
ERROR:shared.c:346:shm_semaphores_init: assertion failed: (tmp_shared != 
NULL)


** (/usr/lib/mono/2.0/mod-mono-server2.exe:12651): WARNING **: Thread 
(nil) may have been prematurely finalized

Stacktrace:


** (/usr/lib/mono/2.0/mod-mono-server2.exe:12651): WARNING **: Thread 
(nil) may have been prematurely finalized


** (/usr/lib/mono/2.0/mod-mono-server2.exe:12651): WARNING **: Thread 
(nil) may have been prematurely finalized


Native stacktrace:

/usr/lib/libmono.so.0 [0x221502]
[0x62a40c]
[0x62a416]
/lib/libc.so.6(gsignal+0x50) [0x656460]
/lib/libc.so.6(abort+0x188) [0x657e28]
/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0(g_assertion_message+0x123) [0x5577f3]
/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 [0x557c8d]
/usr/lib/libmono.so.0 [0x32fdc4]
/usr/lib/libmono.so.0 [0x31c0b5]
/usr/lib/libmono.so.0(mono_once+0x53) [0x32a083]
/usr/lib/libmono.so.0 [0x31be08]
/usr/lib/libmono.so.0 [0x32e9f6]
/usr/lib/libmono.so.0 [0x2c083c]
/usr/lib/libmono.so.0(mono_runtime_init+0x3d) [0x2c98dd]
/usr/lib/libmono.so.0 [0x1c9dc5]
/usr/lib/libmono.so.0(mono_main+0x3c1) [0x20d071]
/usr/bin/mono [0x8048572]
/lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xe5) [0x6416e5]
/usr/bin/mono [0x80484b1]

Debug info from gdb:

[?1034h(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
[New Thread 0xb80a06e0 (LWP 12651)]
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
(no debugging symbols found)
0x0062a416 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
* 1 Thread 0xb80a06e0 (LWP 12651) 0x0062a416 in __kernel_vsyscall ()

Thread 1 (Thread 0xb80a06e0 (LWP 12651)):
#0 0x0062a416 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1 0x0012c173 in __read_nocancel () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#2 0x0022163e in ?? () from /usr/lib/libmono.so.0
#3 
#4 0x0062a416 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#5 0x00656460 in raise () from /lib/libc.so.6
#6 0x00657e28 in abort () from /lib/libc.so.6
#7 0x005577f3 in g_assertion_message () from /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#8 0x00557c8d in g_assertion_message_expr () from /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#9 0x0032fdc4 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libmono.so.0
#10 0x0031c0b5 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libmono.so.0
#11 0x0032a083 in mono_once () from /usr/lib/libmono.so.0
#12 0x0031be08 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libmono.so.0
#13 0x0032e9f6 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libmono.so.0
#14 0x

Re: indirect nx access?

[fedora]

Hi Dave
this probably does not answer your question directly, which is related 
to ForwardX11.

My answer is mail related.
to access mail from anywhere we have done a Webmail installation on a 
server based on squirrelmail.
And once I have established a cli to an internal machine, I can also use 
alpine (the former pine from Washinghton University) on an internal 
machine.

Both o'them require that you mail is accessible via IMAP.
Both o'thme require that you have done the respecive installations 
before you go off.


suomi

gabr...@impactteachers.com wrote:

I'm going to recommend that you check out the following key words, dynamic dns, 
ssh tunnels and freenx client. Throw them in the mix, configure and job done. I 
could be more specific, but where is the lesson in that?? :)


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Sent: 17 Apr 2009 04:30
Subject: indirect nx access?

Hi,

I don't understand how to access my workstation when I'm travelling.

I have two computers on a router that has a routable address. Port 22  
and 80 are forwarded to a small underpowered computer hosting a dozen  
web sites. I can remotely access the cli there using ssh and check for  
updates and look at the load, which is pretty much all I ever want to  
do on that computer. Then while logged in on that machine I can ssh to  
my own workstation which is also on 192.168.0 and get a cli there. But  
that is almost useless, because I really want to use an x session on  
that machine so I can check my mail (kmail on F7). I can easily run  
freenx server on my station but I don't see how I can get in through  
the publicly accessible machine and tunnel into my station. I  
basically can not change the server and it doesn't have the horsepower  
to run a freenx session without seriously degrading the response times  
for its users.


So ideally I'd pack around a usb memory stick with a copy of the !m  
client and then somehow indirectly access my station from some  
internet cafe. It seems to me that if I can do it with ssh it should  
be possible to get an x session that way too but I don't know how.


Ideas? stuff to read?

TIA

Dave



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Re: nscd keeps unknown users

[Herbert Gasiorowski]

Herbert Gasiorowski wrote:
After a reboot of the ldap server, most linux machines will not know 
abaut 40 users (out of 1000) any more ...


Problem is solved:

the nscd damons switched to the backup LDAP servers during reboot of the master.
AND the syncronisation is not working for some time (and some reason?)

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Preupgrade -- Holding a package?

[Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)]

When using preupgrade to go from F10 > F11.
Is it possible to hold a package at the F10 version.
eg if you wanted to keep hplip 2.x, not go to 3.x

I know it can be done with yum update.
But wnodering if it can be accomplished the Preupgrade way?

Frank

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Re: Firefox 3 hogging 90% CPU, can anything be done about this?

[Varun Khaneja]

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Kevin Kofler  wrote:
>
> Varun Khaneja wrote:
> > While discussing issues related to Adobe Flash Player and Adobe Reader on
> > this list may help bring the problem out to people on this list, it would
> > be most effective to report the problem at respective forums or bugzilla
> > so that the problem gets addressed.
>
> +1, problems with proprietary software have to be reported to the company
> producing it.
>
>        Kevin Kofler

Very interesting.
While what you say is true to some extent, I'm afraid I don't agree completely.
Isn't what you mentioned a case with open source software too?

The problems need to be reported where they can be addressed:
In case of proprietary software, it is the organization's forum or bug base.
In case of open source software, it is the software's bug base.

Best,
- Varun

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Fedora NetInstall via USB Drive?

[Marc Ferguson]

Hey Folks,

I'm looking for a howto or some information on doing a NetInstall of Fedora
using a USB drive.  Call me crazy, but I'm getting tired of burning DVDs -
only to have them sit and stale in a spindle.  So; I did a NetInstall of
Fedora 10 x86_64 (when it came out) and I loved the process.  I don't
remember the LONG URL the guy from the IRC channel gave me.

I think I need to download and then copy n paste a .img file to my USB drive
and I should be good to go.  If that's not the process then please help.
Thanks.

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Re: f10 kde edition install/live cd no graphical screen

[Rex Dieter]

jackson byers wrote:

> I am trying to use f10 kde edition install/live cd-- this is a purchased
> cd.
> All i get is a few lines on the consolemaybe said something wrong
> apci?

What video hw?

Try booting with:  
xdriver=vesa
?

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Session Properties: Open Terminal Windows; How to Save?

[Tom Browder]

Gradually over the years Fedora has made saving open terminal windows
harder and harder and now, with Fedora 10, I can't save them open at
all.   Somewhere around F 6 there was a button in System ->
Preferences -> Personal -> Sessions that one could push to save the
session, and it would keep the windows locations (and directory
location) between logins.  Now nothing but what programs to run!

Is there any way to do it?

Thanks.

-Tom

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Re: Session Properties: Open Terminal Windows; How to Save?

[Derek Cramer]

System -> Preferences -> Personal -> Session

Options tab

Remember currently running applications

Is that what you're looking for?

2009/4/17 Tom Browder 

> Gradually over the years Fedora has made saving open terminal windows
> harder and harder and now, with Fedora 10, I can't save them open at
> all.   Somewhere around F 6 there was a button in System ->
> Preferences -> Personal -> Sessions that one could push to save the
> session, and it would keep the windows locations (and directory
> location) between logins.  Now nothing but what programs to run!
>
> Is there any way to do it?
>
> Thanks.
>
> -Tom
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Re: kernel-2.6.29.1-30 doesn't boot

[Shannon McMackin]

Steve Searle wrote:

Around 12:58pm on Thursday, April 16, 2009 (UK time), Dan scrawled:


Just updated the kernel about an hour ago.

Fedora 10 (x86)
Dell GX240
VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 Pro Ultra TF

When booting it gets as far as "starting anacron" and then I just
get a black screen with keyboard and mouse frozen.
Dmesg and boot log offer no hints.


I have had the same problem with my ATI card and the flgrx driver in the
past (stickign at "starting anacron").  Adding nomodeset to the kernel
line on boot up gets past it.  You can change it by adding it in grub on
boot up, and making the change permanent if it works.

Steve


I have heard of some instances where the radeon driver is no longer 
working for certain ATI chips.  radeonhd is the way to go.  Maybe init 3 
and change the driver in xorg.conf and see if it helps.


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Re: kernel-2.6.29.1-30 doesn't boot

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 04/17/2009 06:56 PM, Shannon McMackin wrote:

>>
> I have heard of some instances where the radeon driver is no longer
> working for certain ATI chips.  radeonhd is the way to go.

Apparently not.

http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-April/msg00711.html

Rahul

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looking for pre-configured RHat derived server for mail

[Claude Jones]

I know there are a number of Redhat/Centos/and even Fedora specialized 
distributions out there that are packaged for server use. Can any one 
recommend any that they've used? We have an aging mail server, Debian based, 
that is failing and need to replace quickly. GUI based would be a plus. I am 
only going to be able to marginally contribute to getting this going, but will 
probably be involved in maintenance. We just need to do mail with this 
machine. I've looked at SME and BlueOnyx so far, but, both seem to be command 
line based. I understand the security advantages of not running X but, we'd 
rather live with that downside and have a GUI for various reasons. Your 
experiences appreciated...
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Re: Fedora NetInstall via USB Drive?

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 08:24 -0400, Marc Ferguson wrote:
> Hey Folks,
> 
> I'm looking for a howto or some information on doing a NetInstall of
> Fedora using a USB drive.  Call me crazy, but I'm getting tired of
> burning DVDs - only to have them sit and stale in a spindle.  So; I
> did a NetInstall of Fedora 10 x86_64 (when it came out) and I loved
> the process.  I don't remember the LONG URL the guy from the IRC
> channel gave me.
> 
> I think I need to download and then copy n paste a .img file to my USB
> drive and I should be good to go.  If that's not the process then
> please help.  Thanks.

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f10/en_US/sn-making-media.html#id3163538

poc

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Re: looking for pre-configured RHat derived server for mail

[Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak]

Claude Jones wrote:
I know there are a number of Redhat/Centos/and even Fedora specialized 
distributions out there that are packaged for server use. Can any one 
recommend any that they've used? We have an aging mail server, Debian 
based, that is failing and need to replace quickly. GUI based would be a 
plus. I am only going to be able to marginally contribute to getting 
this going, but will probably be involved in maintenance. We just need 
to do mail with this machine. I've looked at SME and BlueOnyx so far, 
but, both seem to be command line based. I understand the security 
advantages of not running X but, we'd rather live with that downside and 
have a GUI for various reasons. Your experiences appreciated...


You could use stock Fedora with postfix, with webmin to provide a 
web-based gui...


- Mike

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Re: looking for pre-configured RHat derived server for mail

[Steve Searle]

Around 02:56pm on Friday, April 17, 2009 (UK time), Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak 
scrawled:

> Claude Jones wrote:
>> I know there are a number of Redhat/Centos/and even Fedora specialized  
>> distributions out there that are packaged for server use. Can any one  
>> recommend any that they've used? We have an aging mail server, Debian  
>> based, that is failing and need to replace quickly. GUI based would be 
>> a plus. I am only going to be able to marginally contribute to getting  
>> this going, but will probably be involved in maintenance. We just need  
>> to do mail with this machine. I've looked at SME and BlueOnyx so far,  
>> but, both seem to be command line based. I understand the security  
>> advantages of not running X but, we'd rather live with that downside 
>> and have a GUI for various reasons. Your experiences appreciated...
>
> You could use stock Fedora with postfix, with webmin to provide a  
> web-based gui...

Because of the shor lifespan of each Fedora version, for a production
server you would be better with Redhat or CentOS.  Standard CentOS
installation, using sendmail and Dovecot works fine with me.  You could
administer it with Webmin if you want GUI.

Steve

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Re: Session Properties: Open Terminal Windows; How to Save?

[Tom Browder]

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:24 AM, Derek Cramer  wrote:
> System -> Preferences -> Personal -> Session
>
> Options tab
>
> Remember currently running applications
>
> Is that what you're looking for?

Thanks, Derek.  I tried that, but it didn't save my open terminal
windows.  Nor did it save the chess game I started.

-Tom

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Re: Googe unofficial word translator

[Aaron Konstam]

On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 09:54 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Timothy Murphy wrote:
> > Does anyone use jimmyr's unofficial google word translator for firefox
> > under Fedora-10? It is described at
> > .
> >
> > There is a YouTube video describing how to use it at
> > <.
> >
> > It sounds as though it would be very useful,
> > but unfortunately it doesn't seem to work for me.
> >
> >   
> I use it herebut only for "translate page" since the "alt-click"
> feature doesn't work for me here (either).
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Change Gnome Desktop icons default position ?

[Karl-Olov Serrander]

Hi !

Is it possible to change default postion (alignment) for Desktop Icons ?

I would like to have less space between the screens left edge and icons
for Computer, Home, Trash (and others too), so my terminal windows don't hide 
so much of the icons.

I know about "Show Desktop Button".

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Re: Firefox 3 hogging 90% CPU, can anything be done about this?

[Tod Thomas]

Hugh Caley wrote:
Sometime after opening Firefox 3 in Fedora 10 it will start grabbing 
90% of the CPU until it is closed again.  I am running FlashBlock but 
that only seems to delay the time somewhat until the cpu goes to 90%.


Is there nothing else that can be done about this?  If Adobe won't fix 
the problem, don't we have to do something?


Hugh

Is your video card using the ATI Radeon chipset?  Mine is and I was 
running into a similar problem with Firefox and Thunderbird.  
Uncommenting and setting:


Option "AccelMethod" "XAA"

in /etc/X11/xorg.conf fixed my problem.  This was a quick fix.  I didn't 
research it any further than google so YMMV.  I'm using WindowMaker as 
my window manager.



- Tod

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How Can I ...

[Gene Poole]

Is it possible to Upgrade from Fedora 9 to Fedora 10 on a machine with a 
running Oracle 11g install?  Does anyone have a suggested 
procedure/process?

Thanks,
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Re: Preupgrade -- Holding a package?

[Richard Shaw]

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:52 AM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)
 wrote:
> When using preupgrade to go from F10 > F11.
> Is it possible to hold a package at the F10 version.
> eg if you wanted to keep hplip 2.x, not go to 3.x
>
> I know it can be done with yum update.
> But wnodering if it can be accomplished the Preupgrade way?
>
> Frank

Assuming it wouldn't cause any dependency issues, you could setup an
exclude in yum.conf.

Richard

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Authentication against Sun JDS from a F9 box - anyone done it?

[Cannon, Andrew C]

Hi all,

I'm wondering if anyone has done this before or whether I am breaking
new ground (hopefully not...)

I've just installed Sun Java Directory Server on one of our SPARC
servers (JDS 6.3.1 on Solaris 10 to be precise) and as a test, I am
trying to get a Fedora 9 system to authenticate against the server.

The logs on the server look like this:

[17/Apr/2009:16:00:34 +0100] conn=48 op=-1 msgId=-1 - fd=55 slot=55 LDAP
connection from 172.x.x.172:40656 to 172.x.x.173
[17/Apr/2009:16:00:34 +0100] conn=48 op=0 msgId=1 - BIND dn=""
method=128 version=3
[17/Apr/2009:16:00:34 +0100] conn=48 op=0 msgId=1 - RESULT err=0 tag=97
nentries=0 etime=0 dn=""
[17/Apr/2009:16:00:34 +0100] conn=48 op=1 msgId=2 - SRCH
base="automountmapname=auto_master,dc=com" scope=2
filter="(objectClass=automountMap)" attrs="automountMapName"
[17/Apr/2009:16:00:34 +0100] conn=48 op=1 msgId=2 - RESULT err=0 tag=101
nentries=0 etime=0
[17/Apr/2009:16:00:34 +0100] conn=48 op=2 msgId=3 - UNBIND
[17/Apr/2009:16:00:34 +0100] conn=48 op=2 msgId=-1 - closing from
172.x.x.172:40656 - U1 - Connection closed by unbind client -
[17/Apr/2009:16:00:35 +0100] conn=48 op=-1 msgId=-1 - closed.

And the messages file returns the following:

Apr 17 15:59:07 lin07 automount[7104]: do_bind: lookup(ldap): failed to
get query dn
Apr 17 15:59:07 lin07 automount[7104]: mount_autofs_indirect: failed to
read map for /newhome
Apr 17 15:59:07 lin07 automount[7104]: handle_mounts: mount of /newhome
failed!
Apr 17 15:59:07 lin07 automount[7104]: master_do_mount: failed to
startup mount
Apr 17 16:00:36 lin07 automount[7155]: do_bind: lookup(ldap): failed to
get query dn
Apr 17 16:00:36 lin07 automount[7155]: mount_autofs_indirect: failed to
read map for /newhome
Apr 17 16:00:36 lin07 automount[7155]: handle_mounts: mount of /newhome
failed!
Apr 17 16:00:36 lin07 automount[7155]: master_do_mount: failed to
startup mount

Now, the server is set up usign the Sun NIS-2-LDAP service, so it can
act as both a NIS server and an LDAP server.  The NIS side of the server
is working very well, but I cannot get any response from the server via
LDAP unless I am on the server as the Directory Manager.

I've asked about this on the JDS forums, but I'm getting nowhere fast.
Is it a Linux or Solaris problem and is there any way I can solve it?

TIA

Andy




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Re: Preupgrade -- Holding a package?

[Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)]

On 17/04/09 15:58, Richard Shaw wrote:

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:52 AM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)



eg if you wanted to keep hplip 2.x, not go to 3.x

I know it can be done with yum update.
But wnodering if it can be accomplished the Preupgrade way?

Frank


Assuming it wouldn't cause any dependency issues, you could setup an
exclude in yum.conf.

Richard




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Thanks Richard.

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Re: How Can I ...

[Craig White]

On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 10:40 -0400, Gene Poole wrote:
> Is it possible to Upgrade from Fedora 9 to Fedora 10 on a machine with
> a running Oracle 11g install?  Does anyone have a suggested
> procedure/process? 

I would probably do preupgrade which would essentially download just
about everything needed and then have you reboot to get it installed,
perhaps 45 minutes to 2 hours downtime.

It's not clear what your concern is with Oracle 11g install...is it
because you want to keep it online? If so, you will have to have some
downtime regardless of the method of upgrade (i.e. DVD upgrade or
preupgrade). Perhaps a yum upgrade would give you the least amount of
downtime but I would think that during the time that yum is
processing/installing, performance from the Oracle server would be
miserable.

If you have other concerns regarding upgrading a system with Oracle, you
probably would want to be more specific.

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Re: Session Properties: Open Terminal Windows; How to Save?

[Matthew Saltzman]

On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 14:24 +0100, Derek Cramer wrote:

System -> Preferences -> Personal -> Session

Options tab

Remember currently running applications

Is that what you're looking for?

It would be, but it doesn't work in F10.  That part of GNOME is
apparently in need of a rework.  I'm not sure what its status is for
F11.

2009/4/17 Tom Browder 

> Gradually over the years Fedora has made saving open terminal windows
> harder and harder and now, with Fedora 10, I can't save them open at
> all.   Somewhere around F 6 there was a button in System ->
> Preferences -> Personal -> Sessions that one could push to save the
> session, and it would keep the windows locations (and directory
> location) between logins.  Now nothing but what programs to run!
>
> Is there any way to do it?
>
> Thanks.
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Re: 2 sata drives using 1 cable

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

Mike Chambers wrote:
> I tried googling this question and not having any luck.  And not being
> the hardware expect, thought I would ask here.
> 
> I have 2 sata slots on my MB, 1 goes to my dvd player, the other to my
> HD.  And I do have one IDE slot to use.
> 
> Now to the question.  What I want to know, is if 1 sata HD can slave off
> another sata HD?  Like using IDE drives and using one as master, and one
> as slave, both using same IDE cable, with just more than one connection
> on it? Of course, not sure I see another slot mentioned in the BIOS, so
> maybe it's a mute point?
> 
As others have stated, it is one device/cable. You may want to
consider a PATA DVD drive. Unless you have PCI express slots, adding
a SATA card will limit your SATA speed. You could move the DVD drive
to an add-on card, but you may not be able to boot from it. It
depends on the SATA card.

Mikkel
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Re: Session Properties: Open Terminal Windows; How to Save?

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 04/17/2009 09:10 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 14:24 +0100, Derek Cramer wrote:
> 
>   System -> Preferences -> Personal -> Session
> 
> Options tab
> 
> Remember currently running applications
> 
> Is that what you're looking for?
> 
> It would be, but it doesn't work in F10.  That part of GNOME is
> apparently in need of a rework.  I'm not sure what its status is for
> F11.

AFAIK, fixed as part of 2.26.1 which is in rawhide already

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=552387

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Re: looking for pre-configured RHat derived server for mail

[Jim]

Mike, I owned a small dial up internet service and used Communigate Pro as 
our mail server. The setup is via a web browser and worked fantastic, it was 
very stable and I ran it initially on RedHat 7 up through RedHat 9. Hope 
this helps. Jim


- Original Message - 
From: "Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak" 
To: "Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora." 


Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: looking for pre-configured RHat derived server for mail



Claude Jones wrote:
I know there are a number of Redhat/Centos/and even Fedora specialized 
distributions out there that are packaged for server use. Can any one 
recommend any that they've used? We have an aging mail server, Debian 
based, that is failing and need to replace quickly. GUI based would be a 
plus. I am only going to be able to marginally contribute to getting this 
going, but will probably be involved in maintenance. We just need to do 
mail with this machine. I've looked at SME and BlueOnyx so far, but, both 
seem to be command line based. I understand the security advantages of 
not running X but, we'd rather live with that downside and have a GUI for 
various reasons. Your experiences appreciated...


You could use stock Fedora with postfix, with webmin to provide a 
web-based gui...


- Mike

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Re: java alternatives

[Deepak Bhole]

* anonymous  [2009-04-16 16:36]:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm running Fedora 10 and recently installed the Sun Java JDK 6_13 using the
> alternatives command.
> It works fine, including the plugin, but I really don't get the 
> synchronization
> process as discussed in the manual. If I issue the command 
> $ alternatives --display java
> I see that there is a list of 'slaves' associated with the group 'java' 
> already
> present. These slaves are java commands and manpages.
> I assume that I should also have included these slaves, but didn't.
> So the first question I have is how can you add slaves afterwards?
> I tried a number of ways but wasn't able to unless I removed it and 
> reinstalled
> it.
> Also, even though this worked for slaves that were commands, it didn't work 
> for
> the manpages.
> For example,
> $ alternatives (etc.) --slaves /usr/share/man/man1/java.1.gz java.1.gz /opt/
> java/man/man1/java.1 does not work.
>

You won't be able to add slaves afterwards. They can only be done when
the alternative is installed. As for adding them for the Sun JRE/JDK,
the easiest way is to see what the openjdk rpm does and replace the
paths with where you install the Sun VM. To see what the openjdk rpms
do, you can run 'rpm -q --scripts java-1.6.0-openjdk{,-devel,-plugin}'
 
> I'm not even sure if I understand this correctly, but I can't find any good
> documentation on the alternative system.
> 
> Afterwards there was a message that stated the group was now in manual mode
> instead of automatic.
> Basically my take is that when it's in automatic mode, then if you switch to
> the other version using the command
> $ alternative --config
> All the other slaves will switch associated with the group will switch over as
> well.
> Now that it is in manual mode, do I have to switch each slave myself? How?
> 

No, the Auto/Manual mode only decides which group is chosen. In Auto mode, 
the group with highest priority is always selected. In manual, whatever is 
selected stays that way even if a higher priority group is installed.

PS: Out of curiosity.. why do you need the Sun VM? Is something lacking
in OpenJDK?

Deepak


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Re: f10 kde edition install/live cd no graphical screen

[jackson byers]

Rex Dieter wrote:
jackson byers wrote:

> I am trying to use f10 kde edition install/live cd-- this is a purchased
> cd.
> All i get is a few lines on the consolemaybe said something wrong
> apci?

What video hw?

Try booting with:
xdriver=vesa
?

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what does this mean?  how to use that option?
i dont seem to have any booting choices when booting from any live cd

$ less /etc/sysconfig/hwconf
...
class: VIDEO
bus: PCI
detached: 0
driver: matroxfb_base
desc: "Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G550 AGP"
video.xdriver: mga
vendorId: 102b
deviceId: 2527
subVendorId: 102b
subDeviceId: 0f84
pciType: 1
pcidom:0
pcibus:  1
pcidev:  0
pcifn:  0
-
class: VIDEO
bus: DDC
detached: 0
desc: "Matrox G550"
mem: 32768
-
my main system is fc5   boots into level 3,  then i use startx
but this should not be affecting how a livecd boots?

The other live cds i have tried come up automatically into their graphical
screens.
still mystified as to why I have trouble with this live/install cd
while my hardware handles others just fine.
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Re: f10 kde edition install/live cd no graphical screen

[Rex Dieter]

jackson byers wrote:

> Rex Dieter wrote:

> Try booting with:
> xdriver=vesa
> ?

> what does this mean?  how to use that option?
> i dont seem to have any booting choices when booting from any live cd

See also:
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f10/en_US/sn-bootoptions-hardware.html

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Re: java alternatives

[anonymous]

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Deepak Bhole  wrote:

> * anonymous  [2009-04-16 16:36]:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm running Fedora 10 and recently installed the Sun Java JDK 6_13 using
> the
> > alternatives command.
> > It works fine, including the plugin, but I really don't get the
> synchronization
> > process as discussed in the manual. If I issue the command
> > $ alternatives --display java
> > I see that there is a list of 'slaves' associated with the group 'java'
> already
> > present. These slaves are java commands and manpages.
> > I assume that I should also have included these slaves, but didn't.
> > So the first question I have is how can you add slaves afterwards?
> > I tried a number of ways but wasn't able to unless I removed it and
> reinstalled
> > it.
> > Also, even though this worked for slaves that were commands, it didn't
> work for
> > the manpages.
> > For example,
> > $ alternatives (etc.) --slaves /usr/share/man/man1/java.1.gz java.1.gz
> /opt/
> > java/man/man1/java.1 does not work.
> >
>
> You won't be able to add slaves afterwards. They can only be done when
> the alternative is installed. As for adding them for the Sun JRE/JDK,
> the easiest way is to see what the openjdk rpm does and replace the
> paths with where you install the Sun VM. To see what the openjdk rpms
> do, you can run 'rpm -q --scripts java-1.6.0-openjdk{,-devel,-plugin}'
>
> > I'm not even sure if I understand this correctly, but I can't find any
> good
> > documentation on the alternative system.
> >
> > Afterwards there was a message that stated the group was now in manual
> mode
> > instead of automatic.
> > Basically my take is that when it's in automatic mode, then if you switch
> to
> > the other version using the command
> > $ alternative --config
> > All the other slaves will switch associated with the group will switch
> over as
> > well.
> > Now that it is in manual mode, do I have to switch each slave myself?
> How?
> >
>
> No, the Auto/Manual mode only decides which group is chosen. In Auto mode,
> the group with highest priority is always selected. In manual, whatever is
> selected stays that way even if a higher priority group is installed.
>
> PS: Out of curiosity.. why do you need the Sun VM? Is something lacking
> in OpenJDK?
>
>
> Thanks, I think I get it now.
I had wanted to use NetBeans for PHP and also try out its new Python plugin,
and I believe they need the latest version of Java, because without it I get
error after error. Since I'm not a Java programmer, I don't have time to
determine how to get it to play nice with the OpenJDK.
PHP and Python plugins don't work with the NetBeans in the repository, or at
least they didn't two months ago.
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Re: 2 sata drives using 1 cable

[Arthur Pemberton]

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson
 wrote:
> Mike Chambers wrote:
>> I tried googling this question and not having any luck.  And not being
>> the hardware expect, thought I would ask here.
>>
>> I have 2 sata slots on my MB, 1 goes to my dvd player, the other to my
>> HD.  And I do have one IDE slot to use.
>>
>> Now to the question.  What I want to know, is if 1 sata HD can slave off
>> another sata HD?  Like using IDE drives and using one as master, and one
>> as slave, both using same IDE cable, with just more than one connection
>> on it? Of course, not sure I see another slot mentioned in the BIOS, so
>> maybe it's a mute point?
>>
> As others have stated, it is one device/cable. You may want to
> consider a PATA DVD drive. Unless you have PCI express slots, adding
> a SATA card will limit your SATA speed. You could move the DVD drive
> to an add-on card, but you may not be able to boot from it. It
> depends on the SATA card.


Even the cheap ones will allow booting.

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Re: java alternatives

[Andrew Overholt]

* anonymous  [2009-04-17 12:21]:
> PHP and Python plugins don't work with the NetBeans in the repository, or at
> least they didn't two months ago.

Please file a bug against the netbeans package in Fedora to see if they
are expected to work.

Thanks,

Andrew

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utf-8 not rendering properly

[Konstantin Svist]

I was looking stuff up on Wikipedia and noticed that some languages
didn't render properly.
Specifically, text in Khmer doesn't seem to be supported.
(see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian_language or
http://km.wikipedia.org)

I was under the impression that utf-8 supported all languages...
Is this normal or is something screwy on my system?

BTW, using Fedora 8 (planning to jump to 11 once it comes out)



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Re: utf-8 not rendering properly

[Andras Simon]

On 4/17/09, Konstantin Svist  wrote:
> I was looking stuff up on Wikipedia and noticed that some languages
> didn't render properly.
> Specifically, text in Khmer doesn't seem to be supported.
> (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian_language or
> http://km.wikipedia.org)

Do you have khmer fonts installed?

Andras

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Re: utf-8 not rendering properly

[Matthew Flaschen]

Konstantin Svist wrote:
> I was under the impression that utf-8 supported all languages...

UTF-8 is a character encoding.  You still need fonts for any character
you want to view.

Matt Flaschen

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Re: Session Properties: Open Terminal Windows; How to Save?

[Tom Browder]

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Rahul Sundaram
 wrote:
...
> AFAIK, fixed as part of 2.26.1 which is in rawhide already

Thanks for the pointer.  I'm glad to see the heat being generated on
the bug.  I complained about F 9 when it first hit the street when my
terminal windows restarted erratically after a supposedly saved
session, and I seemed like the only user who noticed.

Again, the save session process for the GNOME desktop has gradually
degraded since about F 5 or 6!

It's great that it's finally seen as a giant user irritant when you
can't save a session to keep between logins.

-Tom

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Re: How Can I ...

[Gene Poole]

Craig White wrote:

> I would probably do preupgrade which would essentially download just
> about everything needed and then have you reboot to get it installed,
> perhaps 45 minutes to 2 hours downtime.
> 
> It's not clear what your concern is with Oracle 11g install...is it
> because you want to keep it online? If so, you will have to have some
> downtime regardless of the method of upgrade (i.e. DVD upgrade or
> preupgrade). Perhaps a yum upgrade would give you the least amount of
> downtime but I would think that during the time that yum is
> processing/installing, performance from the Oracle server would be
> miserable.
> 
> If you have other concerns regarding upgrading a system with Oracle, you
> probably would want to be more specific.
> 
> Craig

In the past, every time the Oracle server machine was upgraded, the 
process was to do a full (cold) database backup; A complete OS install; A 
complete Oracle install; then a full database restore. 

Very, very time consuming and always the question - What was missed?  It's 
not a requirement to stay online, but a real great advancement would be to 
go from 2-days to 4-hours!

Thanks,
Gene Poole
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Re: java alternatives

[anonymous]

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Andrew Overholt wrote:

> * anonymous  [2009-04-17 12:21]:
> > PHP and Python plugins don't work with the NetBeans in the repository, or
> at
> > least they didn't two months ago.
>
> Please file a bug against the netbeans package in Fedora to see if they
> are expected to work.
>

It appears filed and fixed in F11 but not F10.
"Only basic modules of the NetBeans IDE are provided by the
netbeans.orgcommunity for the Linux distributions.A cause is a number
of dependencies on external projects that are not
packaged for Linux yet"
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Re: Googe unofficial word translator

[suvayu ali]

2009/4/16 Timothy Murphy :
> Does anyone use jimmyr's unofficial google word translator for firefox
> under Fedora-10? It is described at
> .
>
> There is a YouTube video describing how to use it at
> <.
>
> It sounds as though it would be very useful,
> but unfortunately it doesn't seem to work for me.
>
There is another extension called Hyperwords. It does more than just translate.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1941

However this might have a privacy issue for some.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addons/policy/0/1941

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Grub Reboot

[Gustavo Eli]

How does the grub boot a specific operating system on Fedora?

For example, in Debian exists:

grub-reboot [num]

Thanks in advanced.

Gustavo Eli Pelcastre H.

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Re: Grub Reboot

[Kam Leo]

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Gustavo Eli  wrote:
> How does the grub boot a specific operating system on Fedora?
>
> For example, in Debian exists:
>
> grub-reboot [num]
>
> Thanks in advanced.
>
> Gustavo Eli Pelcastre H.
>

Grub uses the key word "default" to specify which stanza to boot.

For further information go check the documentation on Grub Legacy:
http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/

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Re: Grub Reboot

[Tom Horsley]

On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:52:48 - (UTC)
Gustavo Eli wrote:

> How does the grub boot a specific operating system on Fedora?

If you are asking how to make the next boot bring up a
particular kernel without permanently changing the default,
you need to make sure you don't look at the grub info file,
but instead do a help on "savedefault" in grub itself.

The --once and --default options will let you temporarily
hack the default boot so the next reboot will use a specific
entry, but go back to the original default for the boot
after that.

(I just figured this all out recently for a machine being
used to test tools on a gazillion different linux distros :-).

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Re: ramdisks [a solution]

[Bill Davidsen]

Mike Wright wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Mike Wright wrote:
I came up with a solution that uses LVM and it works a *charm*, 
albeit, probably because of large block sizes relative to the 16M 
size of the ramdisks, seems inefficient (costs 25% each).  Maybe I 
can tune these and get better.


pvcreate /dev/ram15
pvcreate /dev/ram14
pvcreate /dev/ram13
pvcreate /dev/ram12

vgcreate my36Mdisk /dev/ram15 /dev/ram14 /dev/ram13
vgcreate my12Mdisk /dev/ram/12

lvcreate -n myRamDisk1 -L 36M my36Mdisk
lvcreate -n myRamDisk2 -L 12M my12Mdisk

Wow that sounds complex, why not just make the ramdisks larger? Just 
use the boot parameter which sets that:

  ramdisk_size=N
where N is the size in kilobytes, so for 256M you specify 262144.



Thanks for that advice.

I ended up making the ramdisks smaller which gave me greater 
granularity.  Then when the volume groups were created I specified 64K 
extents instead of the default 16M.  That gave two benefits: there was 
almost no wasted space in the VG, and the data that I copied over used 
less than half of the space of the original.


In thinking about this related to another issue, I remember that you can also 
just create a single arbitrary ramdisk and mount it:

  mount -t tmpfs -o size=270m tmpfs /mnt/tmp
which gives you a 270MB ramdisk on /mnt/tmp. No choice of filesystem type, 
always tmpfs, but for what I wanted adequate.


I'm doing some testing on performance tips, and am using this for testing.

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Re: looking for pre-configured RHat derived server for mail

[Bill Davidsen]

Claude Jones wrote:
I know there are a number of Redhat/Centos/and even Fedora specialized 
distributions out there that are packaged for server use. Can any one 
recommend any that they've used? We have an aging mail server, Debian 
based, that is failing and need to replace quickly. GUI based would be a 
plus. I am only going to be able to marginally contribute to getting 
this going, but will probably be involved in maintenance. We just need 
to do mail with this machine. I've looked at SME and BlueOnyx so far, 
but, both seem to be command line based. I understand the security 
advantages of not running X but, we'd rather live with that downside and 
have a GUI for various reasons. Your experiences appreciated...


I would run CentOS-5.3, use sendmail, dovecot, spamassasin (as desired). Install 
 the firewall to allow only access via mail protocols. Allow ssh if you must. 
If you want web admin, don't run X on the server, ssh in with the -X option, and 
just run the X application on the server displaying to X on the client.


You don't say how large your load might be, but a decent x86 server should 
handle thousands of users easily with proper disk.


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Re: ramdisks [a solution]

[Mike Wright]

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Mike Wright wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Mike Wright wrote:
I came up with a solution that uses LVM and it works a *charm*, 
albeit, probably because of large block sizes relative to the 16M 
size of the ramdisks, seems inefficient (costs 25% each).  Maybe I 
can tune these and get better.


pvcreate /dev/ram15
pvcreate /dev/ram14
pvcreate /dev/ram13
pvcreate /dev/ram12

vgcreate my36Mdisk /dev/ram15 /dev/ram14 /dev/ram13
vgcreate my12Mdisk /dev/ram/12

lvcreate -n myRamDisk1 -L 36M my36Mdisk
lvcreate -n myRamDisk2 -L 12M my12Mdisk

Wow that sounds complex, why not just make the ramdisks larger? Just 
use the boot parameter which sets that:

  ramdisk_size=N
where N is the size in kilobytes, so for 256M you specify 262144.



Thanks for that advice.

I ended up making the ramdisks smaller which gave me greater 
granularity.  Then when the volume groups were created I specified 64K 
extents instead of the default 16M.  That gave two benefits: there was 
almost no wasted space in the VG, and the data that I copied over used 
less than half of the space of the original.


In thinking about this related to another issue, I remember that you can 
also just create a single arbitrary ramdisk and mount it:

  mount -t tmpfs -o size=270m tmpfs /mnt/tmp
which gives you a 270MB ramdisk on /mnt/tmp. No choice of filesystem 
type, always tmpfs, but for what I wanted adequate.


I'm doing some testing on performance tips, and am using this for testing.



That accomplishes everything I wanted when combined with "mount --move" 
and lets me get rid of a horrendous script :D


create temporary work area.
copy work area to temporary work area.
mount --move to original work area.

  Work work work until done

mount --move original work area back to temporary area.
copy temporary work area to original work area.
unmount temporary work area.

If it hits swap I can live with that.


Awesome, Bill!

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how to play mp3 in fedora 10 86x64

[Nathan Huang]

Hi guys
I know this topic is very silly,  but as a new fedora fan, I need a 
basic entainment after I installed fedora on my personal computer,

thank you in advance
nathan

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Kstartupconfig4 missing

[R. G. Newbury]

Since I changed the hard drive for a larger one, I did a complete 
install of Fedora 10, but saved (and moved) /home.


Now I cannot log in using kde, as in the error above.

I google'd and one reason could be permissions, but
 chown -R whoever:whoever /home/whoever doesn't work, since there is no 
.kde4 folder and no kstartupconfig4 file.


Help?

Geoff



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Re: how to play mp3 in fedora 10 86x64

[Antonio Olivares]

--- On Fri, 4/17/09, Nathan Huang  wrote:

> From: Nathan Huang 
> Subject: how to play mp3 in fedora 10 86x64
> To: fedora-list@redhat.com
> Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 2:49 PM
> Hi guys
> I know this topic is very silly,  but as a new fedora fan,
> I need a basic entainment after I installed fedora on my
> personal computer,
> thank you in advance
> nathan
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Nathan,

Easy :), Check out the following page:

http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f10.html

and or:

http://www.fedorafaq.org/

Carefully follow the instructions provided.  

Regards,

Antonio 


  

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Re: Bouts of Extreme System Slug

[Nifty Fedora Mitch]

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 12:11:24AM +0930, Tim wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-04-16 at 09:56 -0400, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:
> > Apparently, my problem was heating related. My laptop is sitting on
> > a table with an uneven plastic table cloth, and since I raised it
> > slightly up from the table by putting bottle caps under the rear feet,
> > I have not experienced any problems any more.
> 
> It strikes me that many laptops are designed very badly.  They feet are
> too small (you can buy bigger adhesive rubber feet from electronic
> stores, so you can do a neat upgrade), and they put the vents on the
> bottom instead of the side (making it nearly impossible to actually use
> some on your lap).w

I have taken to keeping an inexpensive kitchen cutting board  under
my laptops.  I have used bottle caps on occasion when I wanted to run a
long running big "job" on it to improve the air flow for overnight stuff.
A thin cutting board or chunk of plywood makes a big difference in keeping
the air inlet and exit unobstructed.  And yes larger feet help too.

These new dual+ core processor +2GB RAM laptops are serious computers...  
They mostly all do suffer from thermal management problems and dial back
to a crawl to stay cool enough.   


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Re: Dependency broken or my config?

[Kevin Kofler]

Bill Davidsen wrote:
> Clearly this mail system strips attachments, security over function.

Attachments on such a high-volume mailing list are also a huge waste of
bandwidth. Not everyone who's subscribed to the list will want to read it.
A link like the one you used in this message is the best solution, that way
people who actually want the file can get it and others don't have to
needlessly download it.

Kevin Kofler

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Re: Kstartupconfig4 missing

[Kevin Kofler]

R. G. Newbury wrote:
> I google'd and one reason could be permissions, but
>   chown -R whoever:whoever /home/whoever doesn't work, since there is no
> .kde4 folder and no kstartupconfig4 file.

Fedora does not use .kde4, the folder should be called just .kde (and be
located in the home directory).

Kevin Kofler

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how to install adobe flashplayer in fedora 10 86_64

[Nathan Huang]

Hi guys
I met a serious problem with installing adobe flashplayer in 86_64 
fedora 10. I find adobe company just provide the flashplayer for i386. 
is there some flashplayer can be supported by 86_64?

thanks in advance
nathan

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Re: how to install adobe flashplayer in fedora 10 86_64

[Sam Varshavchik]

Nathan Huang writes:


Hi guys
I met a serious problem with installing adobe flashplayer in 86_64 
fedora 10. I find adobe company just provide the flashplayer for i386. 
is there some flashplayer can be supported by 86_64?


Adobe has a beta version of flash for x86_64:

http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/




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Re: Wireless problem with Fedora 9 and 2Wire 1800

[Erick Martínez]

Ok, I already test it, and I don't know why, but it works. Previously, I had 
installed the correct firmware for that chipset, so, I backup it, then create a 
new folder for the downloaded firmware, reboot the thinkpad and then it works. 
Now, I only have the problem that frequently disconnects and connects from the 
2Wire 1800. Thanks again Kevin.

"Shalom"     Erick Martinez
Estudiante de piano y composición.

--- On Mon, 4/6/09, Erick Martínez  wrote:
From: Erick Martínez 
Subject: Re: Wireless problem with Fedora 9 and 2Wire 1800
To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." 

Cc: kevin.kof...@chello.at
Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 8:25 PM

Yes, I know it is a zd1211 (my bad), sorry. I already have the firmware, but I 
going to try your suggestion, and try it out, Kevin. The network manager 
recognize the networks in the neighborhood, and in the list appear my 2Wire 
modem. Thx a lot Kevin for take a time to answer.


"Shalom"     Erick Martinez
Estudiante de piano y composición.

--- On Mon, 4/6/09, Kevin Kofler  wrote:
From: Kevin Kofler 
Subject: Re: Wireless problem with Fedora 9 and 2Wire 1800
To: fedora-list@redhat.com
Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 2:38 PM

Erick Martínez wrote:
> AirLink101 AWLL3025v2 (my usb wireless)

You should also specify the chipset. I looked it up for you and it's
zd1211.

> My kernel is up to date (2.6.27), but it just dont connect.

Do you have zd1211-firmware installed? You need it to use that device.

Kevin Kofler

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Strategy for yum to install from DVD without network?

[David]

I am hoping for feedback on my overall strategy, or small tips, and if
the list can reassure me that the concept is not misguided then I can
explore the details myself.

BACKGROUND

I hope to reduce the number of unused packages in my next Fedora
install. I use it for desktop, plus gaining experience with software
development and Linux admin.

1) I have only poor quality (typically 36kbit/s) dialup internet access;

so my current use experience is:

2) Initially install Fedora packages from DVD;

3) Minimise internet updates. I prefer yum command line. I am aware of
presto but have not tried it yet.

Previously with F9 anaconda install I specified "desktop" and
"software development" options. Looking at the package options
presented, I was afraid to remove packages I don't comprehend in fear
of breaking something essential. But I suspect I don't use many of
them.

The problem with installing all those packages is that update
notifications become useless because there is just too much to
download. So next time (F11) I would like to try installing packages
only on a needs basis, but I'm uncertain how best to achieve this
under the above constraints (1,2,3).

PROPOSAL

I imagine it might be achieved like this, without any internet
connection, on a standalone box:

4) *Somehow in anaconda or kickstart specify a minimal install off the
DVD, to get a bootable F11.

5) With the goal of minimising DVD access to improve speed, *somehow
create a local yum repository by copying all DVD files onto the local
filesystem. This repo will never be updated, just used for installs.
Do I need to use createrepo here?

6) Use yum to install required packages, with only their dependencies.
Is it correct that baseurl=file:// will configure yum to read the
local files directly without needing any server?

So I'm wondering if this overall strategy appears reasonable, and will
be grateful for any answers and/or tips at the 2 points marked
"*somehow". Thanks.

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qtnx question (save username and password)

[Joachim Backes]

Hi,

I'm looking for a possibility to store the last used username (and 
password?) in qtnx, such as is possible in nxclient from nomachine.com,
or at least to start qtnx in a shell script so it reads 
username/password from stdin or from some environment variable(s).


Somebody has a solution?

Kind regards

Joachim Backes 



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