Fedora 11 Preview Release announcement

2009-04-28 Thread Seth Vidal


Memorandum of Intent to Release a Distribution of Understanding

Things this email is about:
  - Fedora 11 Preview release
  - Where to get it
  - How to test it
  - Where to report problems

Things this email is not about:
  - If there are too many sliders on a volume control
  - If there are not enough sliders on a volume control
  - Grumpiness

Agenda Items:
  - Release Fedora 11 Preview Announcement
  - Tell everyone how to obtain the Preview Release
  - Tell everyone how to file bug reports

Hidden Agenda:
  - Joy
  - Peace
  - Occasional fun-loving snarkiness

Body:
This is the Fedora 11 Preview release, we're just a short time from 
releasing the full shebang. Therefore we need the most testing we can 
possibly get on this one. On the torrent sites you'll find live images for 
testing:


http://torrent.fedoraproject.org and http://spins.fedoraproject.org

Everyone has been focused on fixing and closing their remaining bugs since 
the Fedora 11 Beta Release. Please use Bugzilla
( http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_file_a_bug_report ) to report any 
problems you find (after making sure that somebody else hasn't already 
reported the issues). The Preview release notes which can be found at

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f11preview/  will help you
with any other details.

Thanks and happy testing!

-sv


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Re: Fedora 11 countdown banner (artwork team release)

2009-04-28 Thread Gianluca Sforna
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Ricky Zhou ri...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
 By the way, would it be possible to make an updated version of the 1 day
 banner?  Right now, it says 1 days, and where it should be 1 day.
 The same might be true for the Italian one.
Correct


 I'm about to send the an email to fedora-trans-list about getting more
 translations for the countdown.

I already asked opinions for translations to the Italian team. At
first glance, it could be an issue to keep the coming and arriving
concepts distinct after translation.
Is the text set in stone or can we tune it to ease translations?

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Re: Fedora 11 countdown banner (artwork team release)

2009-04-28 Thread Ricky Zhou
On 2009-04-28 08:43:26 AM, Gianluca Sforna wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Ricky Zhou ri...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
  By the way, would it be possible to make an updated version of the 1 day
  banner?  Right now, it says 1 days, and where it should be 1 day.
  The same might be true for the Italian one.
 Correct
 
 
  I'm about to send the an email to fedora-trans-list about getting more
  translations for the countdown.
 
 I already asked opinions for translations to the Italian team. At
 first glance, it could be an issue to keep the coming and arriving
 concepts distinct after translation.
 Is the text set in stone or can we tune it to ease translations?
It's up to the translator's best judgement to make it sound natural in
their language.  If it's necessary to change the words a bit, feel free.

Thanks,
Ricky


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Re: Fedora 11 countdown banner (artwork team release)

2009-04-28 Thread Israel Rodríguez
Hi everybody!

El mar, 28-04-2009 a las 10:16 +0200, Paolo Leoni escribió:
 Hi Ricky,
 
 By the way, would it be possible to make an updated version of
 the 1 day
 banner?  Right now, it says 1 days, and where it should be
 1 day.
 The same might be true for the Italian one.
 
 sorry for the mistake, today afternoon I'll re-upload corrected
 version for both languages.
  
 
 I'm about to send the an email to fedora-trans-list about
 getting more
 translations for the countdown.  Any idea who I can refer
 translators to
 if they need help work the graphics work and who they should
 send their
 translated SVGs to in order to be generated?
 
 You can give my contact (hydr...@gmail.com) for those they need some
 assistance about banner creation.
  
 On 2009-04-28 08:43:26 AM, Gianluca Sforna wrote:
 
  I already asked opinions for translations to the Italian team. At
  first glance, it could be an issue to keep the coming and
 arriving
In Spanish, I think that Coming soon could be translated to
pronto (it's only soon but the real translation is llegando
pronto and isn't good). Arriving in could be translated to:
 - Llegando en
 - Llega en

Suggestions??

  concepts distinct after translation.
  Is the text set in stone or can we tune it to ease translations?
 
 Hi gianluca, [I'm novastorm ;-)]
 
 Today I'll correct the banner...do you have some ideas for italian
 translation? 
 Feel free to contact me if you need some help. You can also modify
 banner source by yourself if you want.
  
 
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Re: Fedora 11 countdown banner (artwork team release)

2009-04-28 Thread Paolo Leoni
Hi Ricky,

2009/4/28 Ricky Zhou ri...@fedoraproject.org


 By the way, would it be possible to make an updated version of the 1 day
 banner?  Right now, it says 1 days, and where it should be 1 day.
 The same might be true for the Italian one.


I've uploaded the corrected version of countdown banner in both version
(english and italian).

You can find them here:
http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-countdown-banner_en.tar.gz
http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora11-countdown-banner_it.tar.gz




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[Bug 497984] New: [qt] Fonts are not showing, while only square in kde, gnome working fine...

2009-04-28 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: [qt] Fonts are not showing, while only square in kde, gnome working 
fine...

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=497984

   Summary: [qt] Fonts are not showing, while only square in kde,
gnome working fine...
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
  Platform: All
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
  Keywords: i18n
  Severity: medium
  Priority: low
 Component: fontconfig
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Classification: Fedora
Target Release: ---


Description of problem:
installed gnome desktop in maithili (mai_IN), later install punjabi-support
(pa_IN).
and  tried to login gnome-desktop Punjabi, kde applications are not showing
fonts, but square box

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
kdebase-4.2.2-2.fc11.i586
qt-4.5.0-14.fc11.i586
fontconfig-2.6.99.behdad.20090318-1.fc11.i586
lohit-punjabi-fonts-2.3.8-1.fc11.noarch
kde-l10n-Punjabi-4.2.2-1.fc11.noarch

How reproducible:
Evertime

Steps to Reproduce:
1. add punjabi support (yum groupinstall punjabi-support)
2. logout and login Punjabi locale
3. run kate or kwrite

Actual results:
actually showing square box instead of font glyph

Expected results:
proper font glyph should shown

Additional info:

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[Bug 492510] Regression: wqy-bitmap-fonts preferred font over truetype fonts

2009-04-28 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492510





--- Comment #36 from Akira TAGOH ta...@redhat.com  2009-04-28 09:26:25 EDT ---
just tried the proposed package at comment #32. and I don't see anything better
than current version of the package regardless of modifying 65-nonlatin.conf.
have you ever tried to test everything at comment #24 before pushing the
update?

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[Bug 487061] Japanese fonts changed to less readable after update

2009-04-28 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #3 from Akihiro Nomura sacred...@hotmail.com  2009-04-28 23:26:31 
EDT ---
I tried a patch proposed in #485566 and it solves my problem.
I think this is the same behaviour to older VLGothic-* packages as far as I can
see.

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[Bug 492510] Regression: wqy-bitmap-fonts preferred font over truetype fonts

2009-04-28 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 476459] wqy-zenhei-fonts overrides Japanese desktop (so can't be installed by default in @chinese-support group)

2009-04-28 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=476459


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[Bug 492510] Regression: wqy-bitmap-fonts preferred font over truetype fonts

2009-04-28 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #37 from Qianqian Fang fan...@gmail.com  2009-04-28 23:40:38 EDT 
---
this update is basically identical to the patch posted in comment #27 (in #27,
the diff was made reversed). And the behavior should match what I described in
comment #29. In short, this patch by itself will not solve the problem you
reported, because it depends on the solution to Bug#476459. I assume Jens is
going to add a separate config file for VL Gothic to specify it as the default
ja sans font. With this file in place, both Bug#476459 and this bug should be
solved.

I will mark this Bug#476459 as dependent to this bug.

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[Bug 485566] Fontconfig should select DejaVu font for rendering English, even in Japanese locale.

2009-04-28 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #3 from Akihiro Nomura sacred...@hotmail.com  2009-04-28 23:44:11 
EDT ---
I tried this patch to vlgothic-* fonts, into
/usr/share/fontconfig/conf.avail/66-vlgothic-*.conf.
This patch seems to resolve following issues (or make them to original state),
which have been occurred since new fontconfig rules applied to VLGothic*.
1. In monospace, @ glyph is rendered sometimes in vlgothic or sometimes in
dejavu mono and
   their width is different. (This bug)
2. Some English alphabet and numbers in the applets in gnome-panel looks like
monospace and hard to read.
   I don't know why this occur and is resolved by this patch.
3. Some ambiguous width character (like □) in gnome-terminal is rendered as
fill-width but treated as half-width,
   I mentioned this issue in Bug #487061.

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[Bug 476459] wqy-zenhei-fonts overrides Japanese desktop (so can't be installed by default in @chinese-support group)

2009-04-28 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 492510] Regression: wqy-bitmap-fonts preferred font over truetype fonts

2009-04-28 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #38 from Qianqian Fang fan...@gmail.com  2009-04-29 00:02:07 EDT 
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Akira, I reassigned Bug#476459 since you are the maintainer of vlgothic-fonts. 

I want to make sure you understand my rationales for solving these two bugs:
first of all, 65-nolatin sets the default font orders for cjk fonts, it does
not, and perhaps should not, assume which locale is preferred, therefore, it
won't solve the font variant issues for CJK. The solution is to introduce
language-specific font config files. Unfortunately, Fedora does not have
language-selector settings as in Ubuntu. Currently, the language specific font
orders for Chinese is done by the fontconfig files associated with the default
Chinese font (Zen Hei and Bitmap Song). However, Japanese does not have such
config files, and completely relies on 65-nonlatin (which is not only
out-dated, but also giving zh locale a lower priority).

Therefore, either you want to introduce a Japanese specific font config file to
set the preferred font orders for lang=ja, or you simply define VL Gothic as
the default Sans for ja in the vlgothic-fonts config files, just like the file
you proposed for this bug (you do need to replace zh to ja and reset the font
names).

I believe that a better solution would be the first one in the long run, but
for now, the second solution is not bad either (in the future, this file can
directly renamed to language-selector-ja_JP.conf or something like that).

Let me know if this is making sense to you.

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Re: Statistics problem

2009-04-28 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 07:43:01PM -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Jeff Spaleta jspal...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com 
  wrote:
  I did two counts, one for DVD and Live without uniq'ing the IP
  addresses doing the retrievals (because there could be multiple
  downloads from people behind firewalls), and one with.  In both cases
  I think the numbers are very significantly higher than our current
  stats show.  The raw numbers per day since F10 release are attached.
 
  All those numbers in the txt use the corrected approach?
 
 Just to be clear.. what where the stats showing before? Just the
 unique DVD counts?

The download numbers before were using the direct download command
shown on this wiki page:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Statistics/Commands

There was at least one major problem with that command; the Fedora 10
Live ISO filenames don't start with Fedora-10, they start with
F10, meaning we weren't counting them *at all*.  So I've included
two counts, one for the DVD and one for the Live ISO as clicked from
the get-fedora page.  (Other spins, as far as I can tell, are done via
torrent and we're capturing those statistics from the tracker
elsewhere.)

The second problem may not be a real problem -- it's that we are
uniq-ing the IP addresses doing the downloading.  That method has the
potential to cut out legitimate, repetitive downloads from inside a
firewall.  I'd feel better cutting those ticks out if they were
separated by a very short timeframe.  Then we could be reasonably
certain they were caused by repeated clicks, rather than actual
separate downloads.  In the interest of a conservative approach, I'm
willing to stick with uniq-ing the stats, but I produced both sets of
numbers anyway.

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Re: Statistics problem

2009-04-28 Thread Jon Stanley
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote:

 uniq-ing the IP addresses doing the downloading.  That method has the
 potential to cut out legitimate, repetitive downloads from inside a
 firewall.  I'd feel better cutting those ticks out if they were

I'm not sure if you can see this in our logs or not (you might have to
have the individual mirrors logs :( ), but if the response code is a
206, that means it was a RANGE request - to download part of a file.
It's not at all uncommon for a download manager to open 20-30
connections to download the same file for the same user.,

So I'd opt for the conservative approach of uniques as well.

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Re: sphinx as search solution?

2009-04-28 Thread jose manimala
Hey Ian,
I had a crack at it on the pt10 machine... but its  a little bit
on the heavier side uses a lot of resources... I have been running some
tests with HT:dig and lucene... Ht dig hung up the test machine while
indexing... :)

Jose

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 Here's a search engine solution[1] that doesn't run on Java and has a
 MediaWiki plugin[2]. Please take a look at let me know what you think
 with regards to using it for Fedora Infra's purposes.

 [1] http://www.sphinxsearch.com/
 [2]
 https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/wiki/Extension:SphinxSearch

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Bit flip

2009-04-28 Thread Mike McGrath
We need to do the bit flip sooner.  The announcement is out, I've sent
over 600 requests and not a single one has come back a success.  I know
work is being done to change this whole mechanism now, but we still should
be flipping the bit sooner.

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Re: Bit flip

2009-04-28 Thread Seth Vidal



On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Mike McGrath wrote:


We need to do the bit flip sooner.  The announcement is out, I've sent
over 600 requests and not a single one has come back a success.  I know
work is being done to change this whole mechanism now, but we still should
be flipping the bit sooner.



I flipped the bits at: 8:30am EDT. That was a bit earlier than before.

-sv

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Re: Bit flip

2009-04-28 Thread Mike McGrath
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Seth Vidal wrote:



 On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Mike McGrath wrote:

  We need to do the bit flip sooner.  The announcement is out, I've sent
  over 600 requests and not a single one has come back a success.  I know
  work is being done to change this whole mechanism now, but we still should
  be flipping the bit sooner.
 

 I flipped the bits at: 8:30am EDT. That was a bit earlier than before.


I'm thinking more like hours.  From the last release I monitored:

http://mmcgrath.fedorapeople.org/alphaMirrorRediness.html

We didn't hit 80% success rate until 3 and a half hours after the launch.
I think mdomsch made some good changes since this graph that will make the
outcome better, but I still think that initial launch isn't right.

Perhaps we should wait to send the announcement out until a certain % of
mirrors are ready?  We currently don't check that prior to announce.

-Mike

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Re: Bit flip

2009-04-28 Thread Seth Vidal



On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Mike McGrath wrote:



I'm thinking more like hours.  From the last release I monitored:

http://mmcgrath.fedorapeople.org/alphaMirrorRediness.html

We didn't hit 80% success rate until 3 and a half hours after the launch.
I think mdomsch made some good changes since this graph that will make the
outcome better, but I still think that initial launch isn't right.

Perhaps we should wait to send the announcement out until a certain % of
mirrors are ready?  We currently don't check that prior to announce.



I went by Jesse's wording of make sure at least a few mirrors are synced 
and you said on irc that 3 mirrors in the US were synced.


That's why I sent out the announcement then.

That may be where the mixup was.

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Re: Bit flip

2009-04-28 Thread Mike McGrath
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Seth Vidal wrote:



 On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Mike McGrath wrote:

 
  I'm thinking more like hours.  From the last release I monitored:
 
  http://mmcgrath.fedorapeople.org/alphaMirrorRediness.html
 
  We didn't hit 80% success rate until 3 and a half hours after the launch.
  I think mdomsch made some good changes since this graph that will make the
  outcome better, but I still think that initial launch isn't right.
 
  Perhaps we should wait to send the announcement out until a certain % of
  mirrors are ready?  We currently don't check that prior to announce.
 

 I went by Jesse's wording of make sure at least a few mirrors are synced and
 you said on irc that 3 mirrors in the US were synced.

 That's why I sent out the announcement then.

 That may be where the mixup was.


Synced but if you clicked on those mirrors they threw a forbidden message.

-Mike

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Re: Bit flip

2009-04-28 Thread Matt Domsch
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:18:47AM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
 On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Seth Vidal wrote:
 
 
 
  On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Mike McGrath wrote:
 
  
   I'm thinking more like hours.  From the last release I monitored:
  
   http://mmcgrath.fedorapeople.org/alphaMirrorRediness.html
  
   We didn't hit 80% success rate until 3 and a half hours after the launch.
   I think mdomsch made some good changes since this graph that will make the
   outcome better, but I still think that initial launch isn't right.
  
   Perhaps we should wait to send the announcement out until a certain % of
   mirrors are ready?  We currently don't check that prior to announce.
  
 
  I went by Jesse's wording of make sure at least a few mirrors are synced 
  and
  you said on irc that 3 mirrors in the US were synced.
 
  That's why I sent out the announcement then.
 
  That may be where the mixup was.
 
 
 Synced but if you clicked on those mirrors they threw a forbidden message.


Backwards math:

Time to generate and publish updated mirrorlist: 20 minutes
Time to crawl all mirrors: ~2 hours
Time for most mirrors to rsync and catch the bitflip: 6 hours
Time to sync bitflip to all three netapps:  30 minutes (maybe ).
Time to do bitflip: 1 minute

So Mike is correct, that if we bitflip 2.5+ hours ahead of 1400 UTC,
that by 1400 UTC we'll know which mirrors have actually picked up the
bitflip and are live.  If we bitflip a lot earlier, say 6.5 hours
ahead, we can have nearly all the mirrors with the right permissions,
and showing right on the mirrorlist.

MM is also bad in that it doesn't know the directory permissions on
every directory that a report_mirror-using mirror has.  So we're
showing mirrors in the publiclist, and returning them to clients on
with mirrorlist/d.fp.o when we don't know that their permissions are
correct.  Adding that knowledge to report_mirror and MM would prevent
us from returning pre-bitflip mirrors to clients.  That's a good bit
of work I haven't scoped.











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Preview release is out!

2009-04-28 Thread Mike McGrath
Get to installing.

Get to testing.

Get to filling out this matrix:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_11_Preview_Install_Test_Results

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Re: Bit flip

2009-04-28 Thread Matt Domsch
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:34:51AM -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:
 Backwards math:
 
 Time to generate and publish updated mirrorlist: 20 minutes
 Time to crawl all mirrors: ~2 hours
 Time for most mirrors to rsync and catch the bitflip: 6 hours

Insert step: Time for update-master-directory-list to catch the
bitflip: 30 minutes

 Time to sync bitflip to all three netapps:  30 minutes (maybe ).
 Time to do bitflip: 1 minute

Shortest time through the path is: 1+30+30+120+20, or nearly 3.5
hours, which lines up well with Mike's observation that 3.5 hours was
needed before we stopped sending people to closed mirrors.

So, I'd like to propose we back up the bitflip by at least 4 hours
from release time, perhaps as much as 6.

I'd also like to move the update-mirrorlist cronjob back to start at
:40 past the hour, so content is in place by :00.

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Re: sphinx as search solution?

2009-04-28 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 7:36 AM, jose manimala josemanim...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey Ian,
     I had a crack at it on the pt10 machine... but its  a little bit
 on the heavier side uses a lot of resources... I have been running some
 tests with HT:dig and lucene... Ht dig hung up the test machine while
 indexing... :)

 Jose


What tools have we investigated in the past?


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Half hour downtime

2009-04-28 Thread Mike McGrath
I'd like to schedule a half hour of downtime for our netapp in PHX.  This
should only impact some nfs related stuff (primary mirror and things like
images on the wiki).

I'd like to do this before the final freeze, RH's storage team will
actually be performing the work, I just want to find a time that will work
for everyone.  Does sometime next week work?

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changes post-freeze

2009-04-28 Thread Matt Domsch
A few things I'd like to change starting tomorrow (post-freeze).

* change the MM update-master-directory-list cronjob to start at 0 and
  30 past the hour, from its current schedule of trying to start every
  15 minutes.  It is taking about 20 minutes on average to run, so
  really is only running twice an hour anyhow.

* bump back the MM update-mirrorlist cronjob to start at :40 past the
  hour.  It takes about 20 minutes to complete, and I would like the
  new content to land at the top of the hour.

* in modules/rsync/files/rsyncd.conf.secondary1, exclude alt/stage.
  Mirrors shouldn't be able to sync this content.

* in MM prod.cfg, exclude pub/alt/stage.  Mirrors shouldn't have
  this content, and it's extra directory walks we don't need.

* increase the number of crawlers, from 45 to 75.  A full run is
  taking about 3 hours now, I'd like to bring this down to under 2.
  This only affects bapp1, whose load average is still under 1 and has
  plenty of free RAM and CPU it seems.

Objections or comments?

Thanks,
Matt

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Re: Half hour downtime

2009-04-28 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote:
 I'd like to schedule a half hour of downtime for our netapp in PHX.  This
 should only impact some nfs related stuff (primary mirror and things like
 images on the wiki).

 I'd like to do this before the final freeze, RH's storage team will
 actually be performing the work, I just want to find a time that will work
 for everyone.  Does sometime next week work?


Are there any more RC's etc coming out? I would expect that 1 week
would allow for high seeding of mirrors so it should impact too much.

Is the half-hour max or estimated down time?

What kind of Netapp do they use these days? (European or African)?



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Re: changes post-freeze

2009-04-28 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Matt Domsch matt_dom...@dell.com wrote:
 A few things I'd like to change starting tomorrow (post-freeze).

 * change the MM update-master-directory-list cronjob to start at 0 and
  30 past the hour, from its current schedule of trying to start every
  15 minutes.  It is taking about 20 minutes on average to run, so
  really is only running twice an hour anyhow.

 * bump back the MM update-mirrorlist cronjob to start at :40 past the
  hour.  It takes about 20 minutes to complete, and I would like the
  new content to land at the top of the hour.

Is the 20 minutes a maximum or average? I was just wondering if
somewhere between 35 and 40 would make sure it doesn't conflict with a
job at the top of the hour?

 * in modules/rsync/files/rsyncd.conf.secondary1, exclude alt/stage.
  Mirrors shouldn't be able to sync this content.

 * in MM prod.cfg, exclude pub/alt/stage.  Mirrors shouldn't have
  this content, and it's extra directory walks we don't need.

 * increase the number of crawlers, from 45 to 75.  A full run is
  taking about 3 hours now, I'd like to bring this down to under 2.
  This only affects bapp1, whose load average is still under 1 and has
  plenty of free RAM and CPU it seems.

sorry for clueless question number 2. What is the limiting factors for
the crawlers? Network bandwidth/latency or CPU?

 Objections or comments?

 Thanks,
 Matt

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Re: changes post-freeze

2009-04-28 Thread Matt Domsch
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 12:51:18PM -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Matt Domsch matt_dom...@dell.com wrote:
  A few things I'd like to change starting tomorrow (post-freeze).
 
  * change the MM update-master-directory-list cronjob to start at 0 and
  ?30 past the hour, from its current schedule of trying to start every
  ?15 minutes. ?It is taking about 20 minutes on average to run, so
  ?really is only running twice an hour anyhow.
 
  * bump back the MM update-mirrorlist cronjob to start at :40 past the
  ?hour. ?It takes about 20 minutes to complete, and I would like the
  ?new content to land at the top of the hour.
 
 Is the 20 minutes a maximum or average? I was just wondering if
 somewhere between 35 and 40 would make sure it doesn't conflict with a
 job at the top of the hour?

pretty much maximum, though to be fair, I am not recording the start
and stop times for these events in their respective logfiles to know
for sure.

  * increase the number of crawlers, from 45 to 75. ?A full run is
  ?taking about 3 hours now, I'd like to bring this down to under 2.
  ?This only affects bapp1, whose load average is still under 1 and has
  ?plenty of free RAM and CPU it seems.
 
 sorry for clueless question number 2. What is the limiting factors for
 the crawlers? Network bandwidth/latency or CPU?

More latency than bandwidth.  The crawlers issue HTTP HEAD requests
for a lot of files on each mirror to be sure they match.  The latency
in response to these requests (single-threaded to each mirror, but
hitting 45 (or soon more) mirrors in parallel) is what limits the
speed of an individual crawler.  Then the time for the whole run is
simply the time it takes to complete each of the crawlers.

Very little CPU is used, except at the end of each crawler, when it
updates the database with its findings.  Then it jumps up in CPU for a
few seconds.

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Re: sphinx as search solution?

2009-04-28 Thread Mike McGrath
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 7:36 AM, jose manimala josemanim...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hey Ian,
      I had a crack at it on the pt10 machine... but its  a little bit
  on the heavier side uses a lot of resources... I have been running some
  tests with HT:dig and lucene... Ht dig hung up the test machine while
  indexing... :)
 
  Jose
 

 What tools have we investigated in the past?


I've personally used htdig in the past, we've had some proof of concepts
setup but no real report on performance, IO/memory usage, cpu, etc.  Seems
like we start over a lot on this one.  daMaestro has one working but I'm
not sure what all he thinks of it.

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Re: Half hour downtime

2009-04-28 Thread Matt Domsch
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 01:39:47PM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
 I'd like to schedule a half hour of downtime for our netapp in PHX.  This
 should only impact some nfs related stuff (primary mirror and things like
 images on the wiki).
 
 I'd like to do this before the final freeze, RH's storage team will
 actually be performing the work, I just want to find a time that will work
 for everyone.  Does sometime next week work?

fine from mirrors perspective.

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Re: Half hour downtime

2009-04-28 Thread Mike McGrath
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote:
  I'd like to schedule a half hour of downtime for our netapp in PHX.  This
  should only impact some nfs related stuff (primary mirror and things like
  images on the wiki).
 
  I'd like to do this before the final freeze, RH's storage team will
  actually be performing the work, I just want to find a time that will work
  for everyone.  Does sometime next week work?
 

 Are there any more RC's etc coming out? I would expect that 1 week
 would allow for high seeding of mirrors so it should impact too much.


I'm hoping Jesse can comment on this one, AFAIK it wouldn't fall in our
normal freeze window though which will end tomorrow and start again on May
12th.

 Is the half-hour max or estimated down time?


15 minutes was the estimate from the storage team.  My understanding is
this is a firmware upgrade so our new storage trays will work.  The trays
themselves can be installed live.

 What kind of Netapp do they use these days? (European or African)?


I can never remember :-/  I'll ask.

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Re: Bit flip

2009-04-28 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:53:23AM -0400, Seth Vidal wrote:


 On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Mike McGrath wrote:


 I'm thinking more like hours.  From the last release I monitored:

 http://mmcgrath.fedorapeople.org/alphaMirrorRediness.html

 We didn't hit 80% success rate until 3 and a half hours after the launch.
 I think mdomsch made some good changes since this graph that will make the
 outcome better, but I still think that initial launch isn't right.

 Perhaps we should wait to send the announcement out until a certain % of
 mirrors are ready?  We currently don't check that prior to announce.


 I went by Jesse's wording of make sure at least a few mirrors are synced 
 and you said on irc that 3 mirrors in the US were synced.

 That's why I sent out the announcement then.

 That may be where the mixup was.

It didn't help that I had to stick my big fat nose in and help by
approving the message in the moderation queue.  Sorry I contributed to
the angst. :-(

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Any C coders want to help me with something?

2009-04-28 Thread Mike McGrath
Any C coders want to help me with a pam module?

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Re: Any C coders want to help me with something?

2009-04-28 Thread Ricky Zhou
On 2009-04-28 04:57:33 PM, Mike McGrath wrote:
 Any C coders want to help me with a pam module?
I've been doing some C in school, so if there's no big rush, I wouldn't
mind getting some practice :-)

Thanks,
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Re: Any C coders want to help me with something?

2009-04-28 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote:
 Any C coders want to help me with a pam module?


I am not a great C coder but I have done some pam stuff. what is the issue?


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Re: Any C coders want to help me with something?

2009-04-28 Thread Mike McGrath
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote:
  Any C coders want to help me with a pam module?
 

 I am not a great C coder but I have done some pam stuff. what is the issue?


I'd like someone to write a pam module to auth against fas.  I'm not sure
it's the way to go but I'd like to have something up and running to test
with to see how it behaves, how it deals with some failure scenarios, etc.

-Mike

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Re: 2.6.29.1-102.fc11 --with vanilla broken

2009-04-28 Thread Chuck Ebbert
On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:18:07 -0400
Chuck Anderson c...@wpi.edu wrote:

 ERROR: Patch  linux-2.6-build-nonintconfig.patch  not listed as a 
 source patch in specfile
 error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.8pegaB (%prep)
 
 this is due to the following code in ApplyPatch():
 
   if ! egrep ^Patch[0-9]+: $patch\$ %{_specdir}/%{name}.spec ; then
 if [ ${patch:0:10} != patch-2.6. ] ; then
   echo ERROR: Patch  $patch  not listed as a source patch in specfile
   exit 1
 fi
   fi 2/dev/null
 

It's trying to grep in {_specdir}/kernel-vanilla.spec because of the ugly 
name-munging
that's used to build the vanilla kernel.

Fixed in 2.6.29.1-114:

  if ! egrep ^Patch[0-9]+: $patch\$ 
%{_specdir}/${RPM_PACKAGE_NAME%{?variant}}.spec ; then

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Re: 2.6.29.1-102.fc11 --with vanilla broken

2009-04-28 Thread Chuck Ebbert
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:17:04 -0400
Chuck Anderson c...@wpi.edu wrote:

 
 Great.  I ended up having lots of other issues with vanilla build.  At 
 some point during the build, the make oldconfig becomes interactive 
 during the %install phase.  I answer all the questions with default 
 values (hitting enter on each one) and then the build fails.  I also 
 see some interesting thigs with ia64.  Why is it messing with ia64 
 configs?
 
 Excerpts:
 
 Building for target noarch
 ...

You should always specify an arch.

I normally use:

  rpmbuild -bb --target x86_64 --with baseonly --without debuginfo --with 
firmware kernel.spec

(--with firmware has some problems when building 32-bit kernels on x86_64 
though.)

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Re: 2.6.29.1-102.fc11 --with vanilla broken

2009-04-28 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 01:01:17PM -0400, Chuck Ebbert wrote:
 On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:17:04 -0400
 Chuck Anderson c...@wpi.edu wrote:
 
  
  Great.  I ended up having lots of other issues with vanilla build.  At 
  some point during the build, the make oldconfig becomes interactive 
  during the %install phase.  I answer all the questions with default 
  values (hitting enter on each one) and then the build fails.  I also 
  see some interesting thigs with ia64.  Why is it messing with ia64 
  configs?
  
  Excerpts:
  
  Building for target noarch
  ...
 
 You should always specify an arch.
 
 I normally use:
 
   rpmbuild -bb --target x86_64 --with baseonly --without debuginfo --with 
 firmware kernel.spec
 
 (--with firmware has some problems when building 32-bit kernels on x86_64 
 though.)

Sorry, I should have specified the command I had used.  It was similar 
to this:

rpmbuild -ba --target=i386,i686,noarch --with vanilla --without debuginfo 
--without debug --with firmware kernel.spec

I was building on an F10 i386 host.

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Re: 2.6.29.1-102.fc11 --with vanilla broken

2009-04-28 Thread Roland McGrath
 Great.  I ended up having lots of other issues with vanilla build.  At 
 some point during the build, the make oldconfig becomes interactive 
 during the %install phase.  

%install??  Weird.  That should not be happening.  Maybe a V=1 on the make
command would make kbuild explain why it decided to do that.

 I also see some interesting thigs with ia64.  Why is it messing with ia64
 configs?

That stuff is normal.  Ignore it if it doesn't break the build.

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Re: 2.6.29.1-102.fc11 --with vanilla broken

2009-04-28 Thread Roland McGrath
 You should always specify an arch.

make prep uses noarch and generally works fine.  You can just ignore the
strange assembler messages in the 'make configs' phase and the .config
files come out fine, in my experience.

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Re: 2.6.29.1-102.fc11 --with vanilla broken

2009-04-28 Thread Kyle McMartin
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:27:38AM -0700, Roland McGrath wrote:
  You should always specify an arch.
 
 make prep uses noarch and generally works fine.  You can just ignore the
 strange assembler messages in the 'make configs' phase and the .config
 files come out fine, in my experience.
 

The strange messages are just annoying Makefile detritus because of
running ARCH=ia64, they're nothing to be concerned with, and not
relevant to anything but actually building the kernel on ia64.

(See also arch/ia64/Makefile $GAS_STATUS and $KBUILD_CPPFLAGS)

cheers, Kyle

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Re: 2.6.29.1-102.fc11 --with vanilla broken

2009-04-28 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 01:51:08PM -0400, Chuck Ebbert wrote:
 On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:14:08 -0400
 Chuck Anderson c...@wpi.edu wrote:
 
  Sorry, I should have specified the command I had used.  It was similar 
  to this:
  
  rpmbuild -ba --target=i386,i686,noarch --with vanilla --without debuginfo 
  --without debug --with firmware kernel.spec
  
  I was building on an F10 i386 host.
  
 
 I don't think the target can be a list. And if you say '--with firmware' you 
 don't need
 to build the noarch target unless you want docs (if you do want the whole 
 noarch build
 then you don't need '--with firmware'.)

The target has been able to be list for as long as I can remember 
building Fedora kernels.  If it can't be a list now, then that is news 
to me.

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Re: ia64 no longer should set CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED=y

2009-04-28 Thread Doug Chapman

On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 16:40 -0400, Dave Jones wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 04:33:22PM -0400, Doug Chapman wrote:
   Back in the F9 timeframe we had recommended that
   CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED=y be set for the ia64 config.  It appears that
   recent anaconda changes no longer work at all with that set.
   
   Can we get this removed?  It was set only for ia64 so it will have no
   affect on other arches.
 
 Done.
 
   Dave
 

I see this change has been made to the fc12 tree but not fc11.  Can we
get this change in the current F-11 branch also?

thanks,

- Doug


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[Fedora-legal-list] Trademark - FEDORA

2009-04-28 Thread Kris Williamson (KRW)
I am a trademark attorney working in Brazil. I have come across a company which 
has applied to register the trademark FEDORA in Brazil for services in Class 
35. I want to know if this third party has permission to do so. Who do I 
contact regarding this?
 
Kris Williamson
 
Advocacia Pietro Ariboni 
Ariboni, Fabbri, Schmidt  Advogados Associados
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Brooklin Novo
São Paulo - SP
Tel: (11) 5502-1222
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[Fwd: [Fedora-legal-list] Trademark - FEDORA]

2009-04-28 Thread Pamela Chestek

I'll handle.

Pam

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Subject:[Fedora-legal-list] Trademark - FEDORA
Date:   Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:00:53 -0300
From:   Kris Williamson (KRW) k...@aribonifabbri.com.br
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I am a trademark attorney working in Brazil. I have come across a 
company which has applied to register the trademark FEDORA in Brazil for 
services in Class 35. I want to know if this third party has permission 
to do so. Who do I contact regarding this?


Kris Williamson

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Re: Apache Virtual Server

2009-04-28 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 10:59 -0700, Dennis Kaptain wrote:
 I created: 
 /var/www/html/QuickStart/
 /var/www/html/QuickStart/application/
 /var/www/html/QuickStart/application/controllers/
 /var/www/html/QuickStart/application/views/
 /var/www/html/QuickStart/application/views/scripts/
 /var/www/html/QuickStart/library/
 /var/www/html/QuickStart/public/
 
 The last directory 'public' wants to be the DocumentRoot
 I want to set up a virtual server whose DocumentRoot
 is /var/www/html/QuickStart/public

Just so that you're aware:

If anyone can connect to your web server by IP or domain name, then they
can access all those other directories just by using the base domain
name, unless you take other measure about it.

i.e. http://confianza/application/controllers/

I mention this in case it's important.  Perhaps it doesn't matter if
someone can access everything on the server, I don't know what the
content is.

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Re: Apache Virtual Server

2009-04-28 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 20:42 +0200, Uwe Kiewel wrote:
 I'm not sure how apache recognizes which virtual server the client
 requests. Maybe you need a real dns setup.

The hostname request is sent in the connection from the browser, the
webserver uses the first virtual host that matches the name.  So the
order that you specify hosts in is important if there's any double
matches.  The default will be used if none of the virtual hosts match.

I have virtual hosts configured as per your sample, plus a default one
like this:

VirtualHost _default_:80
  DocumentRoot/var/www/html
/VirtualHost

That just shows the usual Fedora + Apache, the webserver is working,
test page.

I found it easier to specify *all* websites as virtual hosts, with just
a blank dummy site in the default host (/var/www/html/).  And to avoid
someone being able to cross between sites inappropriately, none of them
are sub-directories inside /var/www/html/.  They all have separate
roots.

e.g. Default:  /var/www/html/
 example:  /var/www/example
 test: /var/www/test

If you don't do that, and you don't want people to be able to access one
site through another, you need complex access limitation rules.

You need to have name and numerical IP address resolution agreeing with
each other on the server and any clients that connect.  That can be done
with their hosts files, or using a DNS server.  For anything more than
about two or three computers, it's easier to use one central DNS server.
Never again will you have to mess with any hosts file for any other
network or server configurations.  And, for some things, the hosts file
is inadequate.


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Re: Video Card for SuperMicro SuperWorkstation 5046A-XB

2009-04-28 Thread Steven P. Ulrick
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:47:56 -0500
Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 19:34:58 -0500,
   Steven P. Ulrick lists-fed...@afolkey2.net wrote:
  
  What I am now after is a video card.  I don't need anything fancy.
  I think I would be satisfied with whatever functionality that I can
  get just using the apporpriate open source driver.  So, I don't
  mind using, let's say an NVidia card.  I further don't mind
  completely and totally AVOIDING any issues involved with depending
  on a proprietary company keeping their proprietary binary blob in
  sync with the latest Kernel updates.  I just want a card that will
  Just Work the above described system, with a minimum of headaches.
 
 With which version of Fedora? Things are changing a lot in Fedora 11,
 so which cards work has been changing throughout rawhide.

Going with Fedora 11 was/is my intention.

 Right now my ATI rv530 based card is working pretty well for normal
 stuff. I don't do much 3d with it, but did do a short test using
 tremulous today and it seemed to work OK.

Steven P. Ulrick

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Re: FC10 and NDISwrapper

2009-04-28 Thread Gary Stainburn
Thanks Jerry, Axel,

I'm going to look into the native drivers rather than ndiswrappers. Even 
though I finally got the ndiswrapper rpm's to install I prefer this idea.

The laptop is a Dell Vostro 1510, and lspci gives:

06:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)

Gary

On Monday 27 April 2009 21:48:57 Jerry Feldman wrote:
 Rather than screw with NDISWrapper, are you using a BroadCom NIC?
 There is a native Broadcom driver in F10, but you need to load the
 firmware. There is a utility called b43-fwcutter you would use to do
 this from the Windows driver. In any case, it might be better for you to
 describe your wireless chip and Dell model. Note that NDISWrapper is
 bith a driver (ndiswrapper.ko) as well as a command.  But, in the case
 of Broadcom, it will conflict with the native driver.

 On 04/27/2009 10:18 AM, Gary Stainburn wrote:
  Hi folks.
 
  I'm trying to get WIFI working on my new DELL and I've been told to try
  ndiswrappers.



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Question about upgrading Fedora (from fc6 to FC10)

2009-04-28 Thread Denis BUCHER
Hello,

I am quite new to Fedora. One of our server is installed with fc6 and I
see there are no updates anymore, which leads me to many questions :

1. Is there a place to find the packages to be able to have our server
installed with the latest FC6 updates ?

2. Can I upgrade live or should I use the CDROM ? What is the best ?

I read that The recommended installation method is with a boot media
with the Anaconda installer as detailed in the Installation Guide
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/. PreUpgrade
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PreUpgrade is a slightly different
upgrade method where the all packages are downloaded before the system
is rebooted into the Anaconda installer. 

If that's true, can I thrust it at100% to make the server work, or are
there some changes in config that could not be solved ?

What do you suggest ? Simply backup /etc ?

3. Whatever solution I choose, is it better to upgrade fc6 - FC10 or 6
- 7 - 8 - 9 - 10 ?

Thanks a lot in advance for your help,

Denis

P.S. I already read this website :
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq



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Re: insmod and WIFI - was Re: FC10 and NDISwrapper

2009-04-28 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 10:41 +0100, Gary Stainburn wrote:
 1) How do I make the two insmod's survive over a reboot.

In general, that sort of thing can be accomplished by putting a command
line into the /etc/rc.local file.

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Re: Question about upgrading Fedora (from fc6 to FC10)

2009-04-28 Thread Mike Cloaked



Denis BUCHER wrote:
 
 
 3. Whatever solution I choose, is it better to upgrade fc6 - FC10 or 6
 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10 ?
 
 

FC6 has been unsupported for a long time now and has not had updates
available, nor will there be any more updates since F8 was released!

If I had that system my inclination would not be to do an upgrade but to do
a clean install of F10.  Before doing so I would backup the user areas and
any system config files to a safe drive.  Then after installing F10 I would
yum update the system, and then copy back user areas and add the user lines
manually into /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow /etc/group and /etc/gshadow - and
then manually go through the system config files and get the various server
configs working one at a time.

Presumably you have /home or /opt on a separate drive or partition and they
need not be touched at all during the install.

Also remember that F10 has selinux enabled by default - so it is possible
you may need to tweak a few settings - also some things that you may have
had set up in FC6 may not work with selinux enabled - you will have the
option of setting selinux disabled after the install is complete but it is a
good idea to understand enough about it that you can have the system running
with selinux for additional protection.

Good luck.
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Fedora 10 openssl + neon + subversion + https + user cert authentication

2009-04-28 Thread Jorge Manta Bulhoes
Good day,

I've put this same question a while back and didn't get any answer.
Isn't anyone using snv with ssl client auth?



I don't know exactly where my problem is, but I'll explain in detail to
see if anyone has the same and a solution.

I'm trying to access to a subversion repo via https with client
authentication with certificates.
The solution is implemented in a centos 5.2.

If in the machine where the solution is implemented I can do a

svn co https://site/repo

The answer a question where the certificate resides for the access and I
can get a successful checkout.

If I do the same in a fedora 10 I get the following error after I tell
where the certificate is:

svn: OPTIONS of 'https://site/repo': SSL negotiation failed: SSL alert
received: Decrypt error (https://site)

For what I've seen this could be a bug recently introduced in
openssl/neon.

Is this right?

Both systems are completely up to date.

Thanks in advance.

JB

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Re: strange ImageMagick dependencies

2009-04-28 Thread Rex Dieter
brian wrote:

 Bottom line: what's the bare minimum I can get away with here? Disk
 space isn't the issue--I just want to avoid a lot of this if possible.

If you want a fully-functional ImageMagick, all of those items are truly
needed.

Some of them are X-related deps, due to ImageMagick's 'display' app.

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insmod and WIFI - was Re: FC10 and NDISwrapper

2009-04-28 Thread Gary Stainburn
Hi folks,

Thanks to help on here I'm almost there with my WIFI connection.

The session log below shows that the new broadcom WIFI drivers work (in 
theory). I now have two questions.

1) How do I make the two insmod's survive over a reboot.
2) How do I get to use the new WIFI interface?

Gary

[r...@gary ~]# ifconfig 
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:21:70:F2:38:9A  
  inet addr:10.1.1.171  Bcast:10.1.255.255  Mask:255.255.0.0
  inet6 addr: fe80::221:70ff:fef2:389a/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:259 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0  
  TX packets:36 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000  
  RX bytes:20959 (20.4 KiB)  TX bytes:6136 (5.9 KiB)
  Interrupt:16 Base address:0x4000  

loLink encap:Local Loopback  
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host 
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:22 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:22 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:1788 (1.7 KiB)  TX bytes:1788 (1.7 KiB)

[r...@gary ~]# cd ~gary

[r...@gary gary]# insmod ndiswrapper/hybrid_wl/wl.ko
insmod: error inserting 'ndiswrapper/hybrid_wl/wl.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in 
module
[r...@gary gary]# modprobe ieee80211_crypt_tkip
[r...@gary gary]# insmod ndiswrapper/hybrid_wl/wl.ko
[r...@gary gary]# ifconfig
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:21:70:F2:38:9A
  inet addr:10.1.1.171  Bcast:10.1.255.255  Mask:255.255.0.0
  inet6 addr: fe80::221:70ff:fef2:389a/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:671 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:41 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:49646 (48.4 KiB)  TX bytes:6556 (6.4 KiB)
  Interrupt:16 Base address:0x4000

eth1  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:22:5F:82:03:6C
  inet6 addr: fe80::222:5fff:fe82:36c/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
  Interrupt:19

loLink encap:Local Loopback
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:34 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:34 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:2388 (2.3 KiB)  TX bytes:2388 (2.3 KiB)

[r...@gary gary]#


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Re: FC10 and NDISwrapper

2009-04-28 Thread Jerry Feldman

On 04/28/2009 05:08 AM, Gary Stainburn wrote:

Thanks Jerry, Axel,

I'm going to look into the native drivers rather than ndiswrappers. Even 
though I finally got the ndiswrapper rpm's to install I prefer this idea.


The laptop is a Dell Vostro 1510, and lspci gives:

06:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)
  

That's what I thought. Take a look at what dmesg tells you. It will 
probably recognize the chip and then complain about the firmware. In 
this case, you would need b43-fwcutter to extract the firmware from the 
Windows .sys file, and (with the appropriate options) drop it into 
/lib/modules. I've done this on my laptop when it was running SuSE and 
now runs Ubuntu.


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Re: annoying domain.local issue

2009-04-28 Thread Valent Turkovic
First I would like to thank you for really nice ane helpfull email.

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
 On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 17:20 +0200, Valent Turkovic wrote:
 Do you have any issues when domain ends with dot local (.local) ?

 How can I troubleshoot this more and fix it?

 Both Fedora and Windows use the same DNS and same default gateway.

 And does that DNS server have an answer for queries to that domain name?
 If it does, does it have the right answer?

ping doesn't work from Fedora;

# ping web.iskon.local
ping: unknown host web.iskon.local

# ping samba.iskon.local
ping: unknown host web.iskon.local

 How domains are resolved is configured in a few places.
 The /etc/nsswitch.conf has a hosts section which lists the places to
 look up through, in sequence.  Mine has the following in it:

 #hosts:     db files nisplus nis dns
 hosts:      files dns

 (files being the /etc/hosts file, dns being a DHS server.)

 Putting a custom entry into your hosts file, for your .local addresses,
 ain't gonna help you if it consults a DNS server, first, which says
 something different about .local.

 That's used for networking, in general.  SMB work independently, it can
 also use an lmhosts file (inside the /etc/samba/ directory), or as a
 WINS server (an option inside the smb.conf file), as well as DNS.

 I'd suggest posting your hosts, nsswitch.conf, resolv.conf and smb.conf
 files for others to see what you're doing, rather than guess.  Also the
 outputs from running nslookup and dig with your problem domain name.

Here is mine nsswitch.conf :
http://fpaste.org/paste/10360

hosts :
http://fpaste.org/paste/10361

resolv.conf :
http://fpaste.org/paste/10362

 i.e. dig samba.domain.local
     nslookup samba.domain.local

$ dig web.domain.local

;  DiG 9.5.1-P2-RedHat-9.5.1-2.P2.fc10  web.domain.local
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 53744
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;web.domain.local.  IN  A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
web.domain.local.   1200IN  A   10.0.0.18

;; Query time: 5 msec
;; SERVER: 10.0.0.6#53(10.0.0.6)
;; WHEN: Tue Apr 28 14:18:17 2009
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 49



$ nslookup web.domain.local
Server: 10.0.0.6
Address:10.0.0.6#53

Name:   web.domain.local
Address: 10.0.0.18


$ host 10.0.0.18
28.0.0.10.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer web.domain.local.


But I can't ping web.domain.local :(

And typing http://web.domain.local in Firefox doesn't open the web
page, but typing IP it does. If I type 10.0.0.8 in Firefox I get the
home page.

As I mentioned I also have Winwdows in VirtualBox VM and there
everything works ok - ping works and also Firefox opens
web.domain.local without problems.


 If you're bodging up faux domain names, you might have to fiddle quite a
 few things to get it to work.  I found it easier to run my own domain
 name server, with records for local domain names, and have all my local
 computers use my domain name server.

When I enter in my hosts file this line:
10.0.0.18web.domain.local

then I can ping the web server from my Fedora laptop... any ideas?




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Re: annoying domain.local issue

2009-04-28 Thread Valent Turkovic
 And typing http://web.domain.local in Firefox doesn't open the web
 page, but typing IP it does. If I type 10.0.0.8 in Firefox I get the
 home page.

Typo: correct IP is 10.0.0.18

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Re: annoying domain.local issue

2009-04-28 Thread Valent Turkovic
The same issue is also with Ubuntu 9.04
I can't ping web.domain.local but I get IP via nslookup and I can ping
the IP address.

Something is fishy, and I guess I didn't configure it properly but I
can't seam to see what I'm doing wrong.

I looked at Windows ipconfig /all output and this is what I see:

C:\Documents and Settings\Valentipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : iskon-84830d297
Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . : iskon.local
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : iskon.local

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : AMD PCNET Family Ethernet Adapt
CI)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 08-00-27-3F-A9-74
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.2.15
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.2.2
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.2.2
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.16
10.0.0.17
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 28. travanj 2009 8:36:10
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 29. travanj 2009 8:36:10




This part seams suspicious:
Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . : iskon.local


Do I need to configure dns suffix on Fedora also, why and how?

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Re: annoying domain.local issue

2009-04-28 Thread Valent Turkovic
i rushed and copy/pasted wrong info, sorry :(

The correct info is:


C:\Documents and Settings\Valentipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

   Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : domain-84830d297
   Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . : domain.local
   Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
   IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
   WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
   DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : domain.local

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : AMD PCNET Family Ethernet Adapt
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 08-00-27-3F-A9-74
   Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
   Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
   IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.2.15
   Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
   Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.2.2
   DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.2.2
   DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.6
   10.0.0.7
   Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 28. travanj 2009 8:36:10
   Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 29. travanj 2009 8:36:10




This part seams suspicious:
   Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . : domain.local


Do I need to configure dns suffix on Fedora also, why and how?

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Re: annoying domain.local issue

2009-04-28 Thread Gbenga Shobowale
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Valent Turkovic
valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote:
 First I would like to thank you for really nice ane helpfull email.

 On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
 On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 17:20 +0200, Valent Turkovic wrote:
 Do you have any issues when domain ends with dot local (.local) ?

 How can I troubleshoot this more and fix it?

 Both Fedora and Windows use the same DNS and same default gateway.

 And does that DNS server have an answer for queries to that domain name?
 If it does, does it have the right answer?

 ping doesn't work from Fedora;

 # ping web.iskon.local
 ping: unknown host web.iskon.local

 # ping samba.iskon.local
 ping: unknown host web.iskon.local

 How domains are resolved is configured in a few places.
 The /etc/nsswitch.conf has a hosts section which lists the places to
 look up through, in sequence.  Mine has the following in it:

 #hosts:     db files nisplus nis dns
 hosts:      files dns

 (files being the /etc/hosts file, dns being a DHS server.)

 Putting a custom entry into your hosts file, for your .local addresses,
 ain't gonna help you if it consults a DNS server, first, which says
 something different about .local.

 That's used for networking, in general.  SMB work independently, it can
 also use an lmhosts file (inside the /etc/samba/ directory), or as a
 WINS server (an option inside the smb.conf file), as well as DNS.

 I'd suggest posting your hosts, nsswitch.conf, resolv.conf and smb.conf
 files for others to see what you're doing, rather than guess.  Also the
 outputs from running nslookup and dig with your problem domain name.

 Here is mine nsswitch.conf :
 http://fpaste.org/paste/10360

 hosts :
 http://fpaste.org/paste/10361

 resolv.conf :
 http://fpaste.org/paste/10362

 i.e. dig samba.domain.local
     nslookup samba.domain.local

 $ dig web.domain.local

 ;  DiG 9.5.1-P2-RedHat-9.5.1-2.P2.fc10  web.domain.local
 ;; global options:  printcmd
 ;; Got answer:
 ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 53744
 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

 ;; QUESTION SECTION:
 ;web.domain.local.              IN      A

 ;; ANSWER SECTION:
 web.domain.local.       1200    IN      A       10.0.0.18

 ;; Query time: 5 msec
 ;; SERVER: 10.0.0.6#53(10.0.0.6)
 ;; WHEN: Tue Apr 28 14:18:17 2009
 ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 49



 $ nslookup web.domain.local
 Server:         10.0.0.6
 Address:        10.0.0.6#53

 Name:   web.domain.local
 Address: 10.0.0.18


 $ host 10.0.0.18
 28.0.0.10.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer web.domain.local.

if you are not using the dns on your fedora you would need to
configure fedora to use another dns server which can be done in
/etc/resolv.conf
the host file is to identify the ip and local host of your computer
and dns is for other machines on the network


 But I can't ping web.domain.local :(

 And typing http://web.domain.local in Firefox doesn't open the web
 page, but typing IP it does. If I type 10.0.0.8 in Firefox I get the
 home page.

 As I mentioned I also have Winwdows in VirtualBox VM and there
 everything works ok - ping works and also Firefox opens
 web.domain.local without problems.


 If you're bodging up faux domain names, you might have to fiddle quite a
 few things to get it to work.  I found it easier to run my own domain
 name server, with records for local domain names, and have all my local
 computers use my domain name server.

 When I enter in my hosts file this line:
 10.0.0.18    web.domain.local

 then I can ping the web server from my Fedora laptop... any ideas?




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problem with gmerlin library

2009-04-28 Thread Anurag Garg
Hello there,
I was trying to install open movie editor, for which gmerlin library is
essential. I tried to install it through  source as it is not available
through yum. I was able to install it properly without any errors, but while
installing open movie editor, Its not able to locate its library. I even
tried to provide its path through by hand with out any luck,

I've already tried open movie editor and gmerlin forums and also googled
this but no luck, except few others also faced this same problem only on
fedora.

I am using fedora 10 x86_64 gnome.

Could any one help.

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Re: annoying domain.local issue

2009-04-28 Thread Tim
Tim:
 And does that DNS server have an answer for queries to that domain name?
 If it does, does it have the right answer?

Valent Turkovic:
 ping doesn't work from Fedora;
 
 # ping web.iskon.local
 ping: unknown host web.iskon.local
 
 # ping samba.iskon.local
 ping: unknown host web.iskon.local

That would appear to suggest that you don't have anything to tell your
machine how to use those addresses.  No hosts file entries, no DNS
records.  Unless, you do have a DNS server with that information, but
you're querying another one that doesn't.

 I'd suggest posting your hosts, nsswitch.conf, resolv.conf and smb.conf
 files for others to see what you're doing, rather than guess.  Also the
 outputs from running nslookup and dig with your problem domain name.

 Here is mine nsswitch.conf :
 http://fpaste.org/paste/10360

The important line from that is this:

hosts:  files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns

Which, if I've understood the bit in the middle does:
1. files first look in /etc/hosts, then try
2. mdns4_minimal, and if no answer is found, abort
without getting around to querying a DNS server.

This doesn't seem sensible to me.

Unless you have something special, usually all that's needed is:

hosts:  files dns

If mdns4... is doing something useful for you, perhaps try just removing
the notfound=return section.

 hosts :
 http://fpaste.org/paste/10361

Pretty much a normal file.  It defines local loopback addresses (how the
machine refers to itself, the computer equivalent of myself).  It's
expected that something else will resolve other addresses, such as your
DNS server.

 resolv.conf :
 http://fpaste.org/paste/10362

Again, looking normal, presuming that there are DNS servers you can
query at 10.0.0.6 and 10.0.0.7.


 $ dig web.domain.local
 
 ;  DiG 9.5.1-P2-RedHat-9.5.1-2.P2.fc10  web.domain.local
 ;; global options:  printcmd
 ;; Got answer:
 ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 53744
 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
 
 ;; QUESTION SECTION:
 ;web.domain.local.IN  A
 
 ;; ANSWER SECTION:
 web.domain.local. 1200IN  A   10.0.0.18
 
 ;; Query time: 5 msec
 ;; SERVER: 10.0.0.6#53(10.0.0.6)
 ;; WHEN: Tue Apr 28 14:18:17 2009
 ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 49

This indicates that a DNS server at 10.0.0.6 says that web.domain.local
has a numerical IP address of 10.0.0.18.

 $ nslookup web.domain.local
 Server:   10.0.0.6
 Address:  10.0.0.6#53
 
 Name: web.domain.local
 Address: 10.0.0.18

Same as above, with the dig query.

 $ host 10.0.0.18
 28.0.0.10.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer web.domain.local.

And again.

 But I can't ping web.domain.local :(

That could be a firewall issue, but you'd not expect a comment about
unknown host, if it simply couldn't ping something it had an address
for.

 And typing http://web.domain.local in Firefox doesn't open the web
 page, but typing IP it does. If I type 10.0.0.8 in Firefox I get the
 home page.

Check if both your domain servers can answer that query.  Use the dig
command, with the address for each name server.

e.g. dig web.domain.local @10.0.0.6
 and, dig web.domain.local @10.0.0.7

If they both get answers like above, then both domain name servers are
working.

 As I mentioned I also have Winwdows in VirtualBox VM and there
 everything works ok - ping works and also Firefox opens
 web.domain.local without problems.

Windows can muddy the waters, as it can try other things to try and
resolve names, as well.  Windows networking (SMB) for instance can find
machines without DNS or hostnames (essentially asking for a machine by
name, and hoping that it answers for itself, or another machine on the
SMB network gives it the address for it).


 When I enter in my hosts file this line:
 10.0.0.18web.domain.local
 
 then I can ping the web server from my Fedora laptop... any ideas?

See if the comment I made about modifying your /etc/nsswitch.conf file
makes any difference.  Everything else, configuration-wise, seems
normal.

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Re: annoying domain.local issue

2009-04-28 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 14:18 +0100, Gbenga Shobowale wrote:
 the host file is to identify the ip and local host of your computer
 and dns is for other machines on the network

Can be to do that, not only for doing that...

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Problem to join Fedora 10 with Win2k3 AD

2009-04-28 Thread Adeel Akbar
Hi, When I joined my FC10 with Win2k3 AD, its occurred error;

 

[r...@aakbar ~]# system-config-authentication 

 

Shutting down Winbind services:[  OK  ]

Starting Winbind services: [  OK  ]

[/usr/bin/net join -w Ic -S pklhradc2.i2c.com -U ServerUser]

Enter ServerUser's password:...

 

Using short domain name -- IC

Joined 'AAKBAR' to realm 'i2c.com'

DNS update failed!

 

Shutting down Winbind services:[  OK  ]

Starting Winbind services:

 

Please help me to join fedora with AD.

 

Adeel Akbar

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Re: annoying domain.local issue

2009-04-28 Thread Jerry Feldman

On 04/28/2009 09:03 AM, Valent Turkovic wrote:

The same issue is also with Ubuntu 9.04
I can't ping web.domain.local but I get IP via nslookup and I can ping
the IP address.

Something is fishy, and I guess I didn't configure it properly but I
can't seam to see what I'm doing wrong.

  

Let's go back to basics.
You can to to System/Administration/Network, and edit your connection. 
You can either enter the DNS information in the DNS tab or in the 
General Tab, check Automatically Obtain DNS information... Either should 
do it.


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nVidia vs. ATI graphics card for fedora

2009-04-28 Thread Globe Trotter

Hi,

I am ordering a souped-up workstation and I was wondering which graphics card 
is preferable for running fedora:

a 256 MB PCIe x16 nVidia NVS 290, Dual Monitor capable

or 

a 
ATI Fire GL V3600 256MB, Dual Monitor DVI Capable   ATI3600 


What would you suggest? I do not need huge 3-d acceleration and stuff, but want 
it to work well. 

Please let me know if I should provide more information.

Best wishes,
Trotter


  

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Re: nVidia vs. ATI graphics card for fedora

2009-04-28 Thread Axel

Le 28/04/2009 16:25, Globe Trotter a écrit :

Hi,

I am ordering a souped-up workstation and I was wondering which graphics card 
is preferable for running fedora:

a 256 MB PCIe x16 nVidia NVS 290, Dual Monitor capable

or

a
ATI Fire GL V3600 256MB, Dual Monitor DVI Capable   ATI3600 


What would you suggest? I do not need huge 3-d acceleration and stuff, but want 
it to work well.

Please let me know if I should provide more information.

Best wishes,
Trotter
   


I would personnaly choose a nvidia card, and I would use the proprietary 
driver. Every-day user-experience is more smooth and looks prettier to 
me (windows rendering, refresh, switch, and so on) with the proprietary 
drivers. (Same for ATI imho).


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Re: nVidia vs. ATI graphics card for fedora

2009-04-28 Thread James Kosin
Globe Trotter wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am ordering a souped-up workstation and I was wondering which graphics card 
 is preferable for running fedora:
 
 a 256 MB PCIe x16 nVidia NVS 290, Dual Monitor capable
 
 or 
 
 a 
 ATI Fire GL V3600 256MB, Dual Monitor DVI Capable ATI3600 
 
 
 What would you suggest? I do not need huge 3-d acceleration and stuff, but 
 want it to work well. 
 
 Please let me know if I should provide more information.
 
 Best wishes,
 Trotter
 

Trotter,

If you like re-configuring or re-installing drivers at ever kernel
change then OK you can do either.  The bad news is ATI and nVidia are
not fully natively supported in XWindows in most circumstances without
the proprietary drivers.  There are repos that support these two and
work is being done for native support... but, alas it is SLOW in coming.

Tips:
If you choose either of these, only do so with the intent to CAREFULLY
update kernels and drivers.  Don't try updating the kernel if there is
no driver update available, you may regret this decision.
Next, try getting an older model ATI or nVidia card, support is easier
for the older models than the newer ones.  Linux is also a bit slow at
getting newer cards supported natively, without going to proprietary
drivers.

James



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Re: nVidia vs. ATI graphics card for fedora

2009-04-28 Thread Globe Trotter

Thanks very much! I will try for an older graphics card. Do I have options 
other than ATI or nVidia that would not have these issues. I do not want to 
mess with kernel and driver re-configurations. I expect it to be a month before 
my machine actually shows up, btw.

Best wishes,
Trotter


--- On Tue, 4/28/09, James Kosin jko...@beta.intcomgrp.com wrote:

 From: James Kosin jko...@beta.intcomgrp.com
 Subject: Re: nVidia vs. ATI graphics card for fedora
 To: itsme_...@yahoo.com, Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for 
 using Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com
 Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2009, 10:43 AM
 Globe Trotter wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I am ordering a souped-up workstation and I was
 wondering which graphics card is preferable for running
 fedora:
  
  a 256 MB PCIe x16 nVidia NVS 290, Dual Monitor capable
  
  or 
  
  a 
  ATI Fire GL V3600 256MB, Dual Monitor DVI Capable
   ATI3600 
  
  What would you suggest? I do not need huge 3-d
 acceleration and stuff, but want it to work well. 
  
  Please let me know if I should provide more
 information.
  
  Best wishes,
  Trotter
  
 
 Trotter,
 
 If you like re-configuring or re-installing drivers at ever
 kernel
 change then OK you can do either.  The bad news is ATI and
 nVidia are
 not fully natively supported in XWindows in most
 circumstances without
 the proprietary drivers.  There are repos that support
 these two and
 work is being done for native support... but, alas it is
 SLOW in coming.
 
 Tips:
 If you choose either of these, only do so with the intent
 to CAREFULLY
 update kernels and drivers.  Don't try updating the
 kernel if there is
 no driver update available, you may regret this decision.
 Next, try getting an older model ATI or nVidia card,
 support is easier
 for the older models than the newer ones.  Linux is also a
 bit slow at
 getting newer cards supported natively, without going to
 proprietary
 drivers.
 
 James
 
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Re: nVidia vs. ATI graphics card for fedora

2009-04-28 Thread Steve Searle
Around 04:17pm on Tuesday, April 28, 2009 (UK time), Globe Trotter scrawled:

 Thanks very much! I will try for an older graphics card. Do I have
 options other than ATI or nVidia that would not have these issues. I
 do not want to mess with kernel and driver re-configurations. I expect
 it to be a month before my machine actually shows up, btw.

I have NOT used them myself, but from what I have read here Intel seems
to the simplest option.  However I have used the open source (default)
drivers for both ATI and Nvidia without problems.

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gallery2 update that came out today.

2009-04-28 Thread Jason Dickerson
The update will break the gallery; however there is a workaround.  Before
you run the upgrade from http://host/gallery2/upgrade, you need to add the
following symlink

ln -s /usr/share/php/Smarty /usr/share/gallery2/lib/smarty


If you have already run the upgrade, you can still just add the symlink and
it will work.  I only say to add it before, to minimize the system check
errors.

After the symlink is added, the upgrade system checks detect 3 files missing
(2 documentation files and a jar file, g2_db2.jar) and 2 modified
(Smarty_Compiler.class.php and modifier.debug_print_var.php).  These do not
seem to present an issue.

As far as I can tell, everything is working after the symlink was created.

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Re: Question about upgrading Fedora (from fc6 to FC10)

2009-04-28 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 04:15:07 -0700,
  Mike Cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If I had that system my inclination would not be to do an upgrade but to do
 a clean install of F10.  Before doing so I would backup the user areas and
 any system config files to a safe drive.  Then after installing F10 I would

I would also recommend a fresh install at this point. However I would consider
going right to F11. The preview release is out today and not too much is
supposed to change before the final release.

Most of the stuff you want to back up is in /home, /etc and /var. You might
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Re: nVidia vs. ATI graphics card for fedora

2009-04-28 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 07:25:52 -0700,
  Globe Trotter itsme_...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I am ordering a souped-up workstation and I was wondering which graphics card 
 is preferable for running fedora:
 
 a 256 MB PCIe x16 nVidia NVS 290, Dual Monitor capable
 
 or 
 
 a 
 ATI Fire GL V3600 256MB, Dual Monitor DVI Capable ATI3600 
 
 
 What would you suggest? I do not need huge 3-d acceleration and stuff, but 
 want it to work well. 

I am using a FireGL 3400 at work and it is working well with F11 (right now).
There have been points during this rawhide when it didn't, but it looks like
but KMS and 3D will be working for the release (as they are right now).

If you use an nVidia card you will need to use the propietary drivers to get
3D acceleration. The default drivers for nVidia are switching from nv to
nouveau in F11. My understanding is that this provides some improvement, but
you still only get 2D acceleration.

P.S. I have some bias in that I want to support companies like AMD/ATI and
Intel when they make the data for how to use their hardware public as
compared to companies like nVidia that don't. So while I have some scrounged
nVidia hardware around, when I actually buy new stuff I have been going
with ATI.

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Re: Apache Virtual Server

2009-04-28 Thread Dennis Kaptain

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 De: Dennis Kaptain dkapt...@yahoo.com.mx
 Para: fedora-list@redhat.com
 Enviado: lunes, 27 de abril, 2009 12:59:46
 Asunto: Apache Virtual Server
 
 
 I am playing with the Zend Framework on my laptop. In my reading of
 Zend documentation it looks like Zend wants a certain directory structure
 so I created: 
 /var/www/html/QuickStart/
 /var/www/html/QuickStart/application/
 /var/www/html/QuickStart/application/controllers/
 /var/www/html/QuickStart/application/views/
 /var/www/html/QuickStart/application/views/scripts/
 /var/www/html/QuickStart/library/
 /var/www/html/QuickStart/public/
 
 The last directory 'public' wants to be the DocumentRoot
 I want to set up a virtual server whose DocumentRoot is 
 /var/www/html/QuickStart/public
 
 my machine's name is confianza and it is running Fedora 10
 [r...@confianza conf]# uname -a
 Linux confianza 2.6.27.21-170.2.56.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Mon Mar 23 23:37:54 EDT 
 2009 
 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
 
 I set up /etc/hosts so both confianza and confianzazend resolve to 127.0.0.1
 [r...@confianza conf]# grep 127.0.0.1 /etc/hosts
 127.0.0.1localhost.localdomain localhost confianza confianzazend
 
 
 My current apache web server uses /var/www/html as it's DocumentRoot and runs 
 fine.
 
 
 [r...@confianza conf]# yum list installed | grep -i http
 httpd.i386  2.2.11-2.fc10  
 installed
 httpd-tools.i3862.2.11-2.fc10  
 installed
 jakarta-commons-httpclient.i386 1:3.1-0.3.fc10 
 installed
 system-config-httpd.noarch  5:1.4.4-2.fc10 
 installed
 [r...@confianza conf]# yum list installed | grep -i zend
 php-ZendFramework.noarch
 
 I edited /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf as follows:
 #
 ServerName confianza:80
 NameVirtualHost *:80
 #
 
 ServerName confianza
 DocumentRoot /var/www/html
 
 # 
 
 ServerName confianzazend
 DocumentRoot /var/www/html/QuickStart/public
 
 
 I then restart httpd 
 [r...@confianza html]# service httpd restart
 Stopping httpd:[  OK  ]
 Starting httpd:[  OK  ]
 
 
 I want http://confianza to return the contents of /var/www/html
 I want http://confianzazend to return the contents of /var/www/html/QuickStart
 
 
 What is happening is that both http://confianza and http://confianzazend are 
 both returning the contents of /var/www/html
 
 I've looked at several web pages and they all say the same thing, this should 
 just work (TM). It seems simple enough yet my problem persists. What else do 
 I 
 need to do?
 
 Thanks


Just a little more information from /var/log/httpd/access_log

When I request http://localhost I get an entry that says
127.0.0.1 - - [28/Apr/2009:11:52:08 -0500] GET / HTTP/1.1 200 3488 - 
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042708 
Fedora/3.0.10-1.fc10 Firefox/3.0.10

When I request http://confianza I get an entry that says
127.0.0.1 - - [28/Apr/2009:11:53:06 -0500] GET / HTTP/1.1 200 3488 - 
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042708 
Fedora/3.0.10-1.fc10 Firefox/3.0.10

When I request http://confianzazend I get an entry that says
127.0.0.1 - - [28/Apr/2009:11:53:54 -0500] GET / HTTP/1.1 200 3492 - 
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042708 
Fedora/3.0.10-1.fc10 Firefox/3.0.10

All three entries are identical get requests for /
Yet the php command ?php echo $_SERVER['SERVER_NAME'].br\n; ?
in /var/www/html/index.php
prints out 'localhost', 'confianza', or 'confianzazend' depending on what url I 
call.

I have a feeling I'm on to it here but I'm not sure where to go next.

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RE: Apache Virtual Server

2009-04-28 Thread bruce
print your complete httpd.conf file, as well as the /etc/host file

let's take a look at what you have.


-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 9:59 AM
To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora.
Subject: Re: Apache Virtual Server



- Mensaje original 

 De: Dennis Kaptain dkapt...@yahoo.com.mx
 Para: fedora-list@redhat.com
 Enviado: lunes, 27 de abril, 2009 12:59:46
 Asunto: Apache Virtual Server


 I am playing with the Zend Framework on my laptop. In my reading of
 Zend documentation it looks like Zend wants a certain directory structure
 so I created:
 /var/www/html/QuickStart/
 /var/www/html/QuickStart/application/
 /var/www/html/QuickStart/application/controllers/
 /var/www/html/QuickStart/application/views/
 /var/www/html/QuickStart/application/views/scripts/
 /var/www/html/QuickStart/library/
 /var/www/html/QuickStart/public/

 The last directory 'public' wants to be the DocumentRoot
 I want to set up a virtual server whose DocumentRoot is
 /var/www/html/QuickStart/public

 my machine's name is confianza and it is running Fedora 10
 [r...@confianza conf]# uname -a
 Linux confianza 2.6.27.21-170.2.56.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Mon Mar 23 23:37:54
EDT 2009
 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

 I set up /etc/hosts so both confianza and confianzazend resolve to
127.0.0.1
 [r...@confianza conf]# grep 127.0.0.1 /etc/hosts
 127.0.0.1localhost.localdomain localhost confianza confianzazend


 My current apache web server uses /var/www/html as it's DocumentRoot and
runs
 fine.


 [r...@confianza conf]# yum list installed | grep -i http
 httpd.i386  2.2.11-2.fc10
installed
 httpd-tools.i3862.2.11-2.fc10
installed
 jakarta-commons-httpclient.i386 1:3.1-0.3.fc10
installed
 system-config-httpd.noarch  5:1.4.4-2.fc10
installed
 [r...@confianza conf]# yum list installed | grep -i zend
 php-ZendFramework.noarch

 I edited /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf as follows:
 #
 ServerName confianza:80
 NameVirtualHost *:80
 #

 ServerName confianza
 DocumentRoot /var/www/html

 #

 ServerName confianzazend
 DocumentRoot /var/www/html/QuickStart/public


 I then restart httpd
 [r...@confianza html]# service httpd restart
 Stopping httpd:[  OK  ]
 Starting httpd:[  OK  ]


 I want http://confianza to return the contents of /var/www/html
 I want http://confianzazend to return the contents of
/var/www/html/QuickStart


 What is happening is that both http://confianza and http://confianzazend
are
 both returning the contents of /var/www/html

 I've looked at several web pages and they all say the same thing, this
should
 just work (TM). It seems simple enough yet my problem persists. What else
do I
 need to do?

 Thanks


Just a little more information from /var/log/httpd/access_log

When I request http://localhost I get an entry that says
127.0.0.1 - - [28/Apr/2009:11:52:08 -0500] GET / HTTP/1.1 200 3488 -
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042708
Fedora/3.0.10-1.fc10 Firefox/3.0.10

When I request http://confianza I get an entry that says
127.0.0.1 - - [28/Apr/2009:11:53:06 -0500] GET / HTTP/1.1 200 3488 -
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042708
Fedora/3.0.10-1.fc10 Firefox/3.0.10

When I request http://confianzazend I get an entry that says
127.0.0.1 - - [28/Apr/2009:11:53:54 -0500] GET / HTTP/1.1 200 3492 -
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.10) Gecko/2009042708
Fedora/3.0.10-1.fc10 Firefox/3.0.10

All three entries are identical get requests for /
Yet the php command ?php echo $_SERVER['SERVER_NAME'].br\n; ?
in /var/www/html/index.php
prints out 'localhost', 'confianza', or 'confianzazend' depending on what
url I call.

I have a feeling I'm on to it here but I'm not sure where to go next.

DK



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Re: Apache Virtual Server

2009-04-28 Thread Dennis Kaptain

 

 print your complete httpd.conf file, as well as the /etc/host file
 
 let's take a look at what you have.
 


[r...@confianza conf]# cat /etc/hosts
# Do not remove the following line, or various programs
# that require network functionality will fail.
127.0.0.1localhost.localdomain localhost
127.0.0.1confianza
127.0.0.1confianzaZend
::1localhost6.localdomain6 localhost6
192.168.0.2amoramor.
192.168.0.3esperanza
192.168.0.4confianza
192.168.0.5 BRNEE2FCB
192.168.0.6glitter
192.168.0.8fe

[r...@confianza conf]# cat /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf
#
# This is the main Apache server configuration file.  It contains the
# configuration directives that give the server its instructions.
# See URL:http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/ for detailed information.
# In particular, see
# URL:http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/directives.html
# for a discussion of each configuration directive.
#
#
# Do NOT simply read the instructions in here without understanding
# what they do.  They're here only as hints or reminders.  If you are unsure
# consult the online docs. You have been warned.  
#
# The configuration directives are grouped into three basic sections:
#  1. Directives that control the operation of the Apache server process as a
# whole (the 'global environment').
#  2. Directives that define the parameters of the 'main' or 'default' server,
# which responds to requests that aren't handled by a virtual host.
# These directives also provide default values for the settings
# of all virtual hosts.
#  3. Settings for virtual hosts, which allow Web requests to be sent to
# different IP addresses or hostnames and have them handled by the
# same Apache server process.
#
# Configuration and logfile names: If the filenames you specify for many
# of the server's control files begin with / (or drive:/ for Win32), the
# server will use that explicit path.  If the filenames do *not* begin
# with /, the value of ServerRoot is prepended -- so logs/foo.log
# with ServerRoot set to /etc/httpd will be interpreted by the
# server as /etc/httpd/logs/foo.log.
#

### Section 1: Global Environment
#
# The directives in this section affect the overall operation of Apache,
# such as the number of concurrent requests it can handle or where it
# can find its configuration files.
#

#
# Don't give away too much information about all the subcomponents
# we are running.  Comment out this line if you don't mind remote sites
# finding out what major optional modules you are running
ServerTokens OS

#
# ServerRoot: The top of the directory tree under which the server's
# configuration, error, and log files are kept.
#
# NOTE!  If you intend to place this on an NFS (or otherwise network)
# mounted filesystem then please read the LockFile documentation
# (available at 
URL:http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mpm_common.html#lockfile);
# you will save yourself a lot of trouble.
#
# Do NOT add a slash at the end of the directory path.
#
ServerRoot /etc/httpd

#
# PidFile: The file in which the server should record its process
# identification number when it starts.
#
PidFile run/httpd.pid

#
# Timeout: The number of seconds before receives and sends time out.
#
Timeout 120

#
# KeepAlive: Whether or not to allow persistent connections (more than
# one request per connection). Set to Off to deactivate.
#
KeepAlive Off

#
# MaxKeepAliveRequests: The maximum number of requests to allow
# during a persistent connection. Set to 0 to allow an unlimited amount.
# We recommend you leave this number high, for maximum performance.
#
MaxKeepAliveRequests 100

#
# KeepAliveTimeout: Number of seconds to wait for the next request from the
# same client on the same connection.
#
KeepAliveTimeout 15

##
## Server-Pool Size Regulation (MPM specific)
## 

# prefork MPM
# StartServers: number of server processes to start
# MinSpareServers: minimum number of server processes which are kept spare
# MaxSpareServers: maximum number of server processes which are kept spare
# ServerLimit: maximum value for MaxClients for the lifetime of the server
# MaxClients: maximum number of server processes allowed to start
# MaxRequestsPerChild: maximum number of requests a server process serves
IfModule prefork.c
StartServers   8
MinSpareServers5
MaxSpareServers   20
ServerLimit  256
MaxClients   256
MaxRequestsPerChild  4000
/IfModule

# worker MPM
# StartServers: initial number of server processes to start
# MaxClients: maximum number of simultaneous client connections
# MinSpareThreads: minimum number of worker threads which are kept spare
# MaxSpareThreads: maximum number of worker threads which are kept spare
# ThreadsPerChild: constant number of worker threads in each server process
# MaxRequestsPerChild: maximum number of requests a server process serves
IfModule worker.c
StartServers 2
MaxClients 150
MinSpareThreads 25
MaxSpareThreads 75 

Re: nVidia vs. ATI graphics card for fedora

2009-04-28 Thread Neal Becker
James Kosin wrote:

 Globe Trotter wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am ordering a souped-up workstation and I was wondering which graphics
 card is preferable for running fedora:
 
 a 256 MB PCIe x16 nVidia NVS 290, Dual Monitor capable
 
 or
 
 a
 ATI Fire GL V3600 256MB, Dual Monitor DVI CapableATI3600
 
 What would you suggest? I do not need huge 3-d acceleration and stuff,
 but want it to work well.
 
 Please let me know if I should provide more information.
 
 Best wishes,
 Trotter
 
 
 Trotter,
 
 If you like re-configuring or re-installing drivers at ever kernel
 change then OK you can do either.  The bad news is ATI and nVidia are
 not fully natively supported in XWindows in most circumstances without
 the proprietary drivers.  There are repos that support these two and
 work is being done for native support... but, alas it is SLOW in coming.
 
 Tips:
 If you choose either of these, only do so with the intent to CAREFULLY
 update kernels and drivers.  Don't try updating the kernel if there is
 no driver update available, you may regret this decision.
 Next, try getting an older model ATI or nVidia card, support is easier
 for the older models than the newer ones.  Linux is also a bit slow at
 getting newer cards supported natively, without going to proprietary
 drivers.
 

I think you will not have any issues with upgrading kernels using recent 
rpmfusion packages.

I believe the above advice is obsolete. 



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Re: nVidia vs. ATI graphics card for fedora

2009-04-28 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:30:21 -0400
Neal Becker wrote:

 I think you will not have any issues with upgrading kernels using recent 
 rpmfusion packages.

Especially if you install the akmod packages, so it can build the module
from source if the updated binary isn't yet in the repo mirror.

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Re: nVidia vs. ATI graphics card for fedora

2009-04-28 Thread Alan Evans
FWIW, I've got dual-head working with an ATI Radeon X1550. Nothing
special about my system except a custom xorg.conf. I'm using the
standard radeon driver, so I don't worry at all about kernel updates.

Just to let you know that it just works, with the custom config caveat.

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Re: Question about upgrading Fedora (from fc6 to FC10)

2009-04-28 Thread g
Bruno Wolff III wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 04:15:07 -0700,
   Mike Cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com wrote:
 If I had that system my inclination would not be to do an upgrade but to do
 a clean install of F10.  Before doing so I would backup the user areas and
 any system config files to a safe drive.  Then after installing F10 I would
 
 I would also recommend a fresh install at this point. However I would consider
 going right to F11. The preview release is out today and not too much is
 supposed to change before the final release.
 
 Most of the stuff you want to back up is in /home, /etc and /var. You might
 also be using /usr/local.

in agreement with above, and in addition, to find your configuration files,
you can use;

 'find / -anewer /root/install.log -print | sort  my.new.files'

to find all files newer than when passwd was built.

then;

 'grep /etc/ my.new.files  my.new.etc.files'
 'grep /home/ my.new.files  my.new.home.files'
 'grep /usr/local/ my.new.files  my.new.usr.local.files'
 'grep /var/ my.new.files  my.new.var.files'

granted, you will have files created with new dates that you will not want,
but you can go thru 'my.*.files' and edit them out. then you will have a
file/files to use for input to your backup.

after you edit 'my.new.files', or 'my.*.files' you can back up new files
you want to save with;

 'cat my.*.files | cpio -p -adm /path/to/save/to'

see: 'man cat', 'man cpio', 'man find', 'man grep', 'man sort'.

just a suggestion, you may rather use a gui backup program, either way, you
will have to eliminate non configuration files.

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Re: Editor to program in C

2009-04-28 Thread Chris Jones


On 5 Apr 2009, at 7:32PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:


Andras Simon wrote:

There may be reasons for not liking vi or emacs,  but their being
useless is certainly not one of them.


They're useless compared to editors which you can just start to use  
with no

learning curve.


Emacs is my editor of choice, and I disagree it has a learning curve.  
If all you want is to type and save files, its as easy as any other  
simple GUI based editor. If you want to get clever, then yes it takes  
some learning, but it is ultimately more powerful than most others too.


vi on the other hand ;)

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Re: Editor to program in C

2009-04-28 Thread Chris Jones

Hi,


Ignore all answers and try it :-)  Remember that one man's meat is  
another
man's poison.  You have plenty of choices in Linux, and the work you  
save will

be readable in any of the edtors, so you have nothing to lose.


Thats the best piece of advice I've heard so far in this thread ;)

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Re: Editor to program in C

2009-04-28 Thread Chris Jones


My personal preference is to use emacs for development, but to use  
vi for remote editing and quick editing of some files.


Never managed to get on with vi. just doesn't do it for me. For remote  
terminal sessions, I use 'emacs -nw' ...


Chris

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Re: Remooving U3 from USB drive.

2009-04-28 Thread Robin Laing

Rick Stevens wrote:

Beartooth wrote:

On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 07:56:51 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:


A question which appeared on fedora-list recently was how to remove U#W
from a USB drive. I did not see a resolution until the following web
link:

http://www.u3.com/uninstall


I've been trying to do that, and have a long thread going at

http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewforum.php?id=1

called How to wipe thumbdrives??




There is one post in that thread with a technique using dd; I 
haven't tried it yet, but probably will.


I have a couple of those buggers as well.  I think the dd you're
thinking of is something like:

dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=1M count=2048

or something like that...the idea being to write zeros to the entire
drive, wiping out its partition table and all.

It does NOT work on the SanDisk Cruzers.  I ran the dd three times on
each, writing all 4GB of data to them (took forever!).  Fired up fdisk
and it reported a gparted-type partition table on them.  The partition
table should have been wiped out via the dd.

I then ran gparted itself.  It did NOT complain about a missing
partition table (it should have), but it did say there were no defined
partitions.  Whoopee.  Yeah, no partitions, but a gparted-style
partition table that can't be done away with.  Sheesh.

snip

If I could find non SanDisk Cruzer thumbdrives here, I'd never buy 
another.


I now buy nothing but PNY or Apacer thumbdrives.  If I'm in doubt and
if the package says that something's preloaded, I treat them like
toxic waste.


All I can say is that users should complain to the manufacturers and see 
about getting refunds.  For a $20 drive it doesn't seem worth the 
effort.  Enough complaints could be enough to get some success.


I have contacted Sandisk and said I won't purchase any products until I 
see a way to remove this virus without having Windows.


Note that the U3 site does ask for a reason for removing the software. 
I have complained a couple of times.  There was even a thread on their 
forum about a Linux tool.  That was a waste of time.


If you search, there are U3 key loggers and other nasties available.


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Re: Editor to program in C

2009-04-28 Thread Alan Evans
On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Jose Celestino wrote:
 Words by Tim [Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 01:20:31AM +1030]:

 There's one thing worse than vi, and that's emacs.   ;-)


 And vice-versa :)


That, sir, is the finest response I have ever seen.

You've settled the entire vi/emacs war in two words. I bow low to your
obviously superior debate skills.

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Re: nVidia vs. ATI graphics card for fedora

2009-04-28 Thread Robin Laing

Globe Trotter wrote:

Hi,

I am ordering a souped-up workstation and I was wondering which
graphics card is preferable for running fedora:

a 256 MB PCIe x16 nVidia NVS 290, Dual Monitor capable

or

a ATI Fire GL V3600 256MB, Dual Monitor DVI Capable ATI3600

What would you suggest? I do not need huge 3-d acceleration and
stuff, but want it to work well.

Please let me know if I should provide more information.

Best wishes, Trotter






I would normally recommend Nvidia as I have used them since the 
beginning of Fedora with little or no problems after fighting with ATI 
for over a month.  But with AMD purchasing ATI, I would look at them as 
well.


I have a computer with an Intel video chip built on the motherboard but 
it doesn't like Fedora.  It is the one chip that is not well supported 
in Linux.  Replaced it with an Nvidia.


The AKMOD package is supposed to work like a dream but there are times 
that it hasn't.  If you need 3D, I can only say that Nvidia has been 
great for me.


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f10livecd installs but wont boot, Error 2

2009-04-28 Thread jackson byers
I finally got the f10liveinstallcd to install,  to sda1
it evidently went thru w no errors
--unchkd sda,sdb initially  then went to custom install
--chose not mbr, instead firstsector of sda1
--the grub.conf  uses UUID for its root=

I copied the grub.conf stanza to my fc5 grub.conf, it is in control

title Fedora (2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686 ro
root=UUID=4e1021d9-e637-4
d03-97cb-fdd0d4b4cbee rhgb quiet
initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.27.5-117.fc10.i686.img

it all looks normal to me, altho use of UUID instead of  /dev/sda1
i did not expect

But,
on attempting to boot it lists the above kernel line,
followed by
Error 2: Bad file or directory type

I have seen some google msgs w this response
but no help to me

I ran across one google msg re liveinstall cd saying
it installed fine, but locked up on booting-- no further detail

also another msg  saying wouldnt boot if using scsi disks ( I am)
but again no detail

is the liveinstallcd known to have problems booting?

any advice?
try f10dvd instead?

Jack
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Re: nVidia vs. ATI graphics card for fedora

2009-04-28 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 08:17:48 -0700,
  Globe Trotter itsme_...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Thanks very much! I will try for an older graphics card. Do I have options 
 other than ATI or nVidia that would not have these issues. I do not want to 
 mess with kernel and driver re-configurations. I expect it to be a month 
 before my machine actually shows up, btw.

The ATI information is a bit outdated. Support for r5xx cards is pretty
good in F11. r6xx and r7xx stuff is still a work in progress, but 2D
support is already working. This is with the radeon driver
(xorg-x11-drv-ati) not the propietary driver.

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Re: nVidia vs. ATI graphics card for fedora

2009-04-28 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 10:43 -0400, James Kosin wrote:
 Globe Trotter wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I am ordering a souped-up workstation and I was wondering which
 graphics card is preferable for running fedora:
  
  a 256 MB PCIe x16 nVidia NVS 290, Dual Monitor capable
  
  or 
  
  a 
  ATI Fire GL V3600 256MB, Dual Monitor DVI Capable   ATI3600 
  
  
  What would you suggest? I do not need huge 3-d acceleration and
 stuff, but want it to work well. 
  
  Please let me know if I should provide more information.
  
  Best wishes,
  Trotter
  
 
 Trotter,
 
 If you like re-configuring or re-installing drivers at ever kernel
 change then OK you can do either.  The bad news is ATI and nVidia are
 not fully natively supported in XWindows in most circumstances without
 the proprietary drivers.  There are repos that support these two and
 work is being done for native support... but, alas it is SLOW in coming.
 
 Tips:
 If you choose either of these, only do so with the intent to CAREFULLY
 update kernels and drivers.  Don't try updating the kernel if there is
 no driver update available, you may regret this decision.
 Next, try getting an older model ATI or nVidia card, support is easier
 for the older models than the newer ones.  Linux is also a bit slow at
 getting newer cards supported natively, without going to proprietary
 drivers.
 

It's worth pointing out that RPMfusion provides RPMs with kernel modules
for the proprietary versions of both drivers.  The akmod-nvidia RPM
seamlessly rebuilds the driver when a new kernel is installed.  I assume
that the same applies for the ATI packages, but I haven't used them.

 James
 
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Seagate disk problems (NCQ bug???)

2009-04-28 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht

After running flawlessly for 6+ months I just had my Seagate
ST31500343AS (w. SD35 firmware) flake out.  Does this look like the NCQ
bug or just a random event?  The final error msg was around the time the
machine hung hard.


Apr 28 04:26:29 arbol kernel: ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 irq_stat 0x0040, PHY 
RDY changed irq 22
Apr 28 04:26:29 arbol kernel: ata1: softreset failed (device not ready)
Apr 28 04:26:29 arbol kernel: ata1: failed due to HW bug, retry pmp=0
Apr 28 04:26:29 arbol kernel: ata1: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 
300)
Apr 28 04:26:29 arbol kernel: ata1.00: ATA-8: ST31500343AS, SD35, max UDMA/133
Apr 28 04:26:29 arbol kernel: ata1.00: 2930277168 sectors, multi 16: LBA48 NCQ 
(depth 31/32)
Apr 28 04:26:29 arbol kernel: ata1.00: configured for UDMA/133


Apr 28 06:17:02 arbol kernel: ata1.00: exception Emask 0x50 SAct 0x1 SErr 
0x90a02 action 0xe frozen
Apr 28 06:17:02 arbol kernel: ata1.00: irq_stat 0x0040, PHY RDY changed
Apr 28 06:17:02 arbol kernel: ata1: SError: { RecovComm Persist HostInt 
PHYRdyChg 10B8B }
Apr 28 06:17:02 arbol kernel: ata1.00: cmd 60/08:00:e1:81:24/00:00:74:00:00/40 
tag 0 ncq 4096 in
Apr 28 06:17:02 arbol kernel: res 40/00:00:e1:81:24/00:00:74:00:00/40 
Emask 0x50 (ATA bus error)
Apr 28 06:17:02 arbol kernel: ata1.00: status: { DRDY }
Apr 28 06:17:02 arbol kernel: ata1: hard resetting link
Apr 28 06:17:04 arbol kernel: ata1: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 
300)
Apr 28 06:17:09 arbol kernel: ata1.00: qc timeout (cmd 0xec)
Apr 28 06:17:09 arbol kernel: ata1.00: failed to IDENTIFY (I/O error, 
err_mask=0x4)
Apr 28 06:17:09 arbol kernel: ata1.00: revalidation failed (errno=-5)
Apr 28 06:17:09 arbol kernel: ata1: hard resetting link
Apr 28 06:17:11 arbol kernel: ata1: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 
300)
Apr 28 06:17:21 arbol kernel: ata1.00: qc timeout (cmd 0xec)
Apr 28 06:17:21 arbol kernel: ata1.00: failed to IDENTIFY (I/O error, 
err_mask=0x4)
Apr 28 06:17:21 arbol kernel: ata1.00: revalidation failed (errno=-5)
Apr 28 06:17:21 arbol kernel: ata1: limiting SATA link speed to 1.5 Gbps
Apr 28 06:17:21 arbol kernel: ata1: hard resetting link
Apr 28 06:17:22 arbol kernel: ata1: softreset failed (device not ready)
Apr 28 06:17:22 arbol kernel: ata1: failed due to HW bug, retry pmp=0
Apr 28 06:17:22 arbol kernel: ata1: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 
310)
Apr 28 06:17:22 arbol kernel: ata1.00: configured for UDMA/133
Apr 28 06:17:22 arbol kernel: ata1: EH complete
Apr 28 06:17:22 arbol kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 2930277168 512-byte hardware 
sectors (1500302 MB)
Apr 28 06:17:22 arbol kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
Apr 28 06:17:22 arbol kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read 
cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA


Apr 28 06:24:03 arbol kernel: ata1: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x90200 
action 0xe frozen
Apr 28 06:24:03 arbol kernel: ata1: irq_stat 0x0040, PHY RDY changed
Apr 28 06:24:03 arbol kernel: ata1: SError: { Persist PHYRdyChg 10B8B }
Apr 28 06:24:03 arbol kernel: ata1: hard resetting link
Apr 28 06:24:05 arbol kernel: ata1: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 
310)
Apr 28 06:24:10 arbol kernel: ata1.00: qc timeout (cmd 0xec)
Apr 28 06:24:10 arbol kernel: ata1.00: failed to IDENTIFY (I/O error, 
err_mask=0x4)
Apr 28 06:24:10 arbol kernel: ata1.00: revalidation failed (errno=-5)
Apr 28 06:24:10 arbol kernel: ata1: hard resetting link
Apr 28 06:24:12 arbol kernel: ata1: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 
310)
Apr 28 06:24:22 arbol kernel: ata1.00: qc timeout (cmd 0xec)
Apr 28 06:24:22 arbol kernel: ata1.00: failed to IDENTIFY (I/O error, 
err_mask=0x4)
Apr 28 06:24:22 arbol kernel: ata1.00: revalidation failed (errno=-5)
Apr 28 06:24:22 arbol kernel: ata1: hard resetting link
Apr 28 06:24:23 arbol kernel: ata1: softreset failed (device not ready)
Apr 28 06:24:23 arbol kernel: ata1: failed due to HW bug, retry pmp=0
Apr 28 06:24:23 arbol kernel: ata1: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 
310)
Apr 28 06:24:24 arbol kernel: ata1.00: configured for UDMA/133
Apr 28 06:24:24 arbol kernel: ata1: EH complete
Apr 28 06:24:24 arbol kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 2930277168 512-byte hardware 
sectors (1500302 MB)
Apr 28 06:24:24 arbol kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
Apr 28 06:24:24 arbol kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read 
cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA


Apr 28 06:41:26 arbol kernel: ata1: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x90200 
action 0xe frozen
Apr 28 06:41:26 arbol kernel: ata1: irq_stat 0x0040, PHY RDY changed
Apr 28 06:41:26 arbol kernel: ata1: SError: { Persist PHYRdyChg 10B8B }
Apr 28 06:41:26 arbol kernel: ata1: hard resetting link
Apr 28 06:41:28 arbol kernel: ata1: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 
310)
Apr 28 06:41:33 arbol kernel: ata1.00: qc timeout (cmd 0xec)
Apr 28 06:41:33 arbol kernel: ata1.00: failed to IDENTIFY (I/O error, 
err_mask=0x4)
Apr 28 06:41:33 arbol kernel: 

Re: insmod and WIFI - was Re: FC10 and NDISwrapper

2009-04-28 Thread Kevin Kofler
Gary Stainburn wrote:
 hybrid_wl/wl.ko

That's the proprietary driver from Broadcom. People are suggesting you use
the Free Software b43 driver, not the proprietary Broadcom wl.

Kevin Kofler

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Re: F10 - KDE - Wake from screensaver lock screen

2009-04-28 Thread Kevin Kofler
Craig White wrote:
 Since the last round of updates, it seems that when I wake the screen
 from sleep/non-use, it shows me the entire screen instead of a dark
 background while I am prompted to enter a password.
 
 Blank screen - Start Automatically/10 minutes - Require Password After
 60 seconds
 
 Is this a bug?

Definitely looks like one.

Kevin Kofler

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Re: Video Card for SuperMicro SuperWorkstation 5046A-XB

2009-04-28 Thread Kevin Kofler
Steven P. Ulrick wrote:
 What I am now after is a video card.

Looks like Intel integrated isn't an option with your choice of motherboard
(which is unfortunate, because those work best), so I'd suggest one of the
non-HD Radeons. Radeon HDs are a waste of money, they're more expensive and
they don't have OpenGL support in the Free Software drivers yet.

See http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ATIRadeon (towards the bottom) for the
full breakdown of what works and what doesn't work yet (basically, up to
X1950 is fully supported, with 2D and 3D acceleration).

Kevin Kofler

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Re: strange ImageMagick dependencies

2009-04-28 Thread Kevin Kofler
Rex Dieter wrote:
 If you want a fully-functional ImageMagick, all of those items are truly
 needed.

Well, the big problem there is transitive dep chains, e.g.:
libgnome - fedora-gnome-theme - nodoka-metacity-theme - metacity
(This one sucks particularly, as it drags several parts of the GNOME desktop
into any system which should only need the libs. It appears still to be
there even in the upcoming F12 Rawhide. We don't notice it on the live
images as firstboot requires metacity anyway. On my F9 system, yum remove
metacity wants to remove 105 packages!)

Another one is librsvg2 requiring several GNOME libs, which require another
whole bunch of GNOME libs. Quite unfortunate for a library which should
just handle SVG files. (They use Cairo, which makes some sense, but also
stuff like gnome-vfs2.) This is how libgnome gets dragged in in the first
place (along with tons of other GNOME stuff). Interestingly, though, 
gnome-vfs2 is no longer required in F9 (I guess they ported to the new
gvfs) and this seems to alleviate the deps mess somehow (yum remove
metacity doesn't want to remove ImageMagick on F9). So upgrading to a
supported Fedora release should reduce the amount of problems for the OP.

Kevin Kofler

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Re: nVidia vs. ATI graphics card for fedora

2009-04-28 Thread Kevin Kofler
Globe Trotter wrote:
 Thanks very much! I will try for an older graphics card. Do I have options
 other than ATI or nVidia that would not have these issues. I do not want
 to mess with kernel and driver re-configurations. I expect it to be a
 month before my machine actually shows up, btw.

See: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ATIRadeon (towards the bottom) for what
cards are fully supported by the Free Software driver (and thus work out of
the box in Fedora in both 2D and 3D) at this stage (in short: = X1950).

Kevin Kofler

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