easycap video adapter

[Adel ESSAFI]

Hi list
I have an easycap video adapter. When plugged on linux, the system
detects it but I am still not able ti use it (with cheese or mogulus).
when I di lsusb, I get this entry.

[a...@localhost ~]$ lsusb
Bus 002 Device 005: ID 05e1:0408 Syntek Semiconductor Co., Ltd

Can you help please?

Regards
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Re: yum plugin interactions?

[Richard Hughes]

On Sat, 2009-05-02 at 10:50 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> I whipped out a yum plugin today to run a custom script
> every time yum exits (so I can check if new rpms have
> clobbered my customizations and put them back :-).
> 
> It works fine when I run yum, but I'm curious about
> all the other tools out there like packagekit and yumex
> and wot-not.
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> If I update via one of those tools, will my plugin still get
> executed?

Yes. PackageKit runs every yum plugin except refresh-packagekit when it
runs.

Richard.


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Re: yum plugin interactions?

[Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)]

On 05/05/09 09:10, Richard Hughes wrote:



Yes. PackageKit runs every yum plugin except refresh-packagekit when it
runs.

Richard.





How does it work in with skip-broken,
or is that built into yum for F11?

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Any recommendation for Groupware Software?

[Khemara Lyn]

Hi All,

I'm in the middle of choosing a Groupware software. I've been looking at 2 of 
them now: OpenGroupware(oGo) and eGroupware. 

May I ask for some ideas from those with experience with the 2 systems? Any 
recommendation would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks & regards,
Khem

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digikam on F10 64bit

[Chris Rouch]

I'm trying to use digikam (digikam-0.10.0-0.6.beta5.fc10.x86_64) on my
F10 64bit box at home. It starts up correctly, traverses the
directories i tell it to, even imports images from my camera. However
it won't display any albums. I get an error message like
"digikamalbums process died unexpectedly" Googling for this returns
almost nothing, so I think this is a local configuration problem
rather than a common bug.

The same version of digikam works well on my 32bit laptop, and
digikam-0.9.5-1.fc9.x86_64 works on my F9 64bit machine at work. I
don't use kde as my desktop on any of these machines.

Can anyone suggest how to debug this?

Thanks,

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Re: F10 - pulseaudio not running

[Mike Fleetwood]

Kevin Kofler:
> Mike Fleetwood wrote:
>> On my work Fedora 10 desktop (upgraded directly from F8) pulseaudio
>> doesn't run and I don't know how to fix it.  On my home Fedora 10
>> desktop (upgraded to F9 then F10) pulseaudio runs OK.  As a workaround
>> I have run "chmod o+rw /dev/snd/*" to allow Audacious audio player as
>> non-root user access to ALSA kernel audio devices to be able to play
>> music.  Help troubleshooting pulseaudio appreciated.
>
> How are you starting your desktop? If the sound device is not accessible for
> your user, PulseAudio can't use it either, as it also runs as your user.
> You need to log in in a way which is recognized by ConsoleKit, which in F10
> means GDM or KDM. (In F11, other ways to log in should work.)


I login to the desktop using GDM.

To me Fedora 10 appears to set the permissions of the ALSA sound
devices to read-write for root only and none for all other users.  To
allow this to work pulseaudio is a setuid root executable.

However my workaround on my broken work desktop was to allow all users
read-write access to the sound devices, so now pulseaudio can access
the sound device but it still fails to start.

>From my functional home desktop ...
[m...@rockover ~]$ ls -l /dev/snd
total 0
crw-rw+ 1 root root 116, 8 2009-04-08 13:16 controlC0
crw-rw+ 1 root root 116, 7 2009-04-08 20:06 pcmC0D0c
crw-rw+ 1 root root 116, 6 2009-05-04 07:10 pcmC0D0p
crw-rw+ 1 root root 116, 5 2009-04-08 13:16 pcmC0D1c
crw-rw+ 1 root root 116, 4 2009-04-08 13:16 pcmC0D1p
crw-rw+ 1 root root 116, 3 2009-04-08 13:16 seq
crw-rw+ 1 root root 116, 2 2009-04-08 13:16 timer
[m...@rockover ~]$ ls -l /usr/bin/pulseaudio
-rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 70044 2009-01-13 12:46 /usr/bin/pulseaudio
[m...@rockover ~]$ ps -ef | fgrep pulseaudio
mike 11044 22078  0 09:43 pts/300:00:00 fgrep pulseaudio
mike 14834 1  0 Apr08 ?01:33:26 /usr/bin/pulseaudio
--start --log-target=syslog
[m...@rockover ~]$ su -c "lsof -p 14834" | fgrep dev
Password:
pulseaudi 14834 mike  memREG8,3 8492 7092995
/usr/lib/pulse-0.9/modules/module-default-device-restore.so
pulseaudi 14834 mike  memREG8,312564 7092305
/usr/lib/pulse-0.9/modules/module-device-restore.so
pulseaudi 14834 mike  memREG   0,16 67108904   66470
/dev/shm/pulse-shm-2254029202
pulseaudi 14834 mike0r   CHR1,3  0t0 355 /dev/null
pulseaudi 14834 mike1w   CHR1,3  0t0 355 /dev/null
pulseaudi 14834 mike2w   CHR1,3  0t0 355 /dev/null
pulseaudi 14834 mike   12u   REG8,313853 4563821
/home/mike/.pulse/1e7c731be7e02f0d97ac220045bb773d:device-volumes.i386-redhat-linux-gnu.gdbm
pulseaudi 14834 mike   19u   CHR  116,8  0t03106 /dev/snd/controlC0
pulseaudi 14834 mike   25u   CHR  116,8  0t03106 /dev/snd/controlC0

>From my broken work desktop ...
[mflee...@mfleetwo3 ~]$ ls -l /dev/snd
total 0
crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 116, 7 2009-04-22 13:13 controlC0
crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 116, 6 2009-04-22 13:13 hwC0D0
crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 116, 5 2009-05-04 13:13 pcmC0D0c
crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 116, 4 2009-05-04 15:03 pcmC0D0p
crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 116, 3 2009-04-22 13:13 seq
crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 116, 2 2009-04-22 13:13 timer
[mflee...@mfleetwo3 ~]$ ls -l /usr/bin/pulseaudio
-rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 75772 2009-01-13 12:46 /usr/bin/pulseaudio
[mflee...@mfleetwo3 ~]$ ps -ef | fgrep pulseaudio
mfleetwo 32520 22684  0 09:55 pts/000:00:00 fgrep pulseaudio
[mflee...@mfleetwo3 ~]$ pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
I: caps.c: Dropping root privileges.
I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE.
[WARN 32524] polkit-session.c:144:polkit_session_set_uid(): session != NULL
 Not built with -rdynamic so unable to print a backtrace
[mflee...@mfleetwo3 ~]$ echo $?
1
[mflee...@mfleetwo3 ~]$ ps -ef | fgrep pulseaudio

Thanks,
Mike

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Re: Where is lsof?

[Khemara Lyn]

On Monday 04 May 2009 08:49:06 pm Dave Feustel wrote:
> Man lsof produces a man page, but the command itself is not found.
> Where is it in F9?
>
> Thanks.

Hi,

Try this:

/usr/sbin/lsof

It seems to me, the command is for root only, not sure why.

HTH,

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Accessing A Fedora 7 Box FROM The Net

[ad...@anythinggoes]

Hello Fedora-list,

I have a F7 server that has been working perfectly as far as getting
people out into the net.

But recently, I have needed the capability to access the server FROM
the net.

I can ping the server, but I cannot SSH in, FTP in or WEB BROWSE in..
All the appropriate servers are running and are easily accessed from
within the 192.168.1.x subnet..

I don't have a router in place between the box and the Net. I am
using a DSL Modem in Dumb/Bridge mode. The Fedora 7 handles the
connection and authentication and acts as a
Gateway/Router/Firewall to the rest of the 192.168.1.x subnet.

Another point is I DO have a firewall in play (FireStarter) but I have
set a rule so that the IP of the test machine is cleared to come in on
all ports. I have also completely shutdown FireStarter and I still
couldn't access the Server.  IPtables is also shut down completely,
so that's not interfering with the connection.

I am sure it's something grossly simple that I am missing.
Any help would be most appreciated.


AG
  

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vmware-workstation 5.5.x in Fedora 10 with kernel 2.6.29

[wwp]

Hello all,


as usually, a kernel upgrade (from 2.6.27 to 2.6.29) has broken vmware
workstation's modules, they can't build using vmware-config.pl. The
usual way to fix this is to find the appropriate vmware-any-any or
patch for the vm*.tar modules, but this time, I only could find such
patch for vmware WS 6.5.x, not 5.5.x (5.5.9-126128 here).

Is anybody here using vmware workstation 5 with a kernel 2.6.29? If so,
is there a patch I couldn't find?


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RE: Accessing A Fedora 7 Box FROM The Net

[Cannon, Andrew C]

I would look at the ISP or the router as being the problem.  I know the
router has been set to work as a dumb connection, but there may be a
flag that you may have missed in the configuration.

Check with your ISP.  Here in the UK, I've been told that my ISP blocks
certain ports.  It could be that your ISP will do the same unless you
are on a business package.  They may open up the required ports for you
to use if you ask them nicely...

All in all, from what you've said, this looks like a router/ISP issue,
rather than a Fedora issue.

Andy 

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Subject: Accessing A Fedora 7 Box FROM The Net

Hello Fedora-list,

I have a F7 server that has been working perfectly as far as getting
people out into the net.

But recently, I have needed the capability to access the server FROM the
net.

I can ping the server, but I cannot SSH in, FTP in or WEB BROWSE in..
All the appropriate servers are running and are easily accessed from
within the 192.168.1.x subnet..

I don't have a router in place between the box and the Net. I am using a
DSL Modem in Dumb/Bridge mode. The Fedora 7 handles the connection and
authentication and acts as a Gateway/Router/Firewall to the rest of the
192.168.1.x subnet.

Another point is I DO have a firewall in play (FireStarter) but I have
set a rule so that the IP of the test machine is cleared to come in on
all ports. I have also completely shutdown FireStarter and I still
couldn't access the Server.  IPtables is also shut down completely, so
that's not interfering with the connection.

I am sure it's something grossly simple that I am missing.
Any help would be most appreciated.


AG
  

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Re[2]: Accessing A Fedora 7 Box FROM The Net

[ad...@anythinggoes]

Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 8:22:27 AM, you wrote:

> I would look at the ISP or the router as being the problem.  I know the
> router has been set to work as a dumb connection, but there may be a
> flag that you may have missed in the configuration.

> Check with your ISP.  Here in the UK, I've been told that my ISP blocks
> certain ports.  It could be that your ISP will do the same unless you
> are on a business package.  They may open up the required ports for you
> to use if you ask them nicely...

> All in all, from what you've said, this looks like a router/ISP issue,
> rather than a Fedora issue.

> Andy 


Hi Andy,

Thanx for the reply.

The DSL connection IS a business package, so I am fairly certain it
wouldn't block any inbound ports.  But I will check into that.

As for the DSL Modem, it's a Netopia and once it is in DUMB/BRIDGE
mode it's not accessible to check any settings.

If I were to give you the IP of the server would that be able to tell
you anything?  I am somewhat wary of posting the IP publicly, but
if it will help.  :D

Thanx again

AG




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Re: Accessing A Fedora 7 Box FROM The Net

[Chris Tyler]

On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 08:07 -0400, ad...@anythinggoes wrote:
> Hello Fedora-list,
> 
> I have a F7 server that has been working perfectly as far as getting
> people out into the net.
> 
> But recently, I have needed the capability to access the server FROM
> the net.
> 
> I can ping the server, but I cannot SSH in, FTP in or WEB BROWSE in..
> All the appropriate servers are running and are easily accessed from
> within the 192.168.1.x subnet..
> 
> I don't have a router in place between the box and the Net. I am
> using a DSL Modem in Dumb/Bridge mode. The Fedora 7 handles the
> connection and authentication and acts as a
> Gateway/Router/Firewall to the rest of the 192.168.1.x subnet.
> 
> Another point is I DO have a firewall in play (FireStarter) but I have
> set a rule so that the IP of the test machine is cleared to come in on
> all ports. I have also completely shutdown FireStarter and I still
> couldn't access the Server.  IPtables is also shut down completely,
> so that's not interfering with the connection.
> 
> I am sure it's something grossly simple that I am missing.
> Any help would be most appreciated.

Some possible diagnostic suggestions:

- "netstat -a" will show you which servers are listening, on which
interfaces and on which ports. You can use this to confirm that your ssh
daemon is listening to the external interface as well as the internal
one.

- "iptables -L" will show you your current iptables configuration. If
the firewall is truly disabled, you should see something like:

  Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
  target prot opt source   destination 

  Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
  target prot opt source   destination 

  Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
  target prot opt source   destination 

If you see otherwise, and assuming that the default policy is ACCEPT (as
shown above: "(policy ACCEPT)"), then you can flush the rules with
"iptables -F" (Warning: flushing the rules with another default policy
will result in no packets getting through!).

- Review your ssh daemon configuration in /etc/ssh/sshd_config

- From the remote machine, test which ports (if any) are listening on
the F7 host using a tool such as 'nmap'. If netstat shows that the port
is listening, and iptables shows that it's not being blocked locally, it
may be that the ISP is blocking access. In that case, consider adding an
additional listening port (e.g., 222 or ) to the ssh configuration,
and accessing via that (ssh -p 222 f...@bar)

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Re: Selinux disallows read-only loop mount of a file, but only at boot [SOLVED]

[Daniel J Walsh]

On 05/04/2009 08:02 PM, David wrote:

On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 1:20 AM, Daniel J Walsh  wrote:

What OS Are you running?

What policy version?


Hi Daniel

Thanks for responding. Just in case you didnt notice the beginning of
this thread is http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general/337584
where I stated my policy version
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 3:41 PM, David  wrote:

[r...@kablamm ~]# sestatus
SELinux status: enabled
SELinuxfs mount:/selinux
Current mode:   enforcing
Mode from config file:  enforcing
Policy version: 22
Policy from config file:targeted


My OS is 2.6.25-14.fc9.i686

Many thanks for the fedora-classroom on Sunday without which I would
not have known how to investigate this problem. I'd appreciate your
comment if I have soved this correctly by changing the file context to
mount_exec_t, and if my discovery method was correct. I know that I
also must use semanage to make the fix permanent.

If there is a later policy version, what is the specific package name
to yum update? I have only slow dialup internet connection, so I am
not able to update "everything" until f11 dvd.

David

I was really asking what RPM version.  Sorry.  Are you fully up to date 
on SELinux policy.


yum -y update selinux-policy-targeted

The command you executed is allowed in Rawhide.  And it should be 
allowed in F9.  It looks like the current F9 policy, mount_t is allowed 
to read all content. Including default_t, if you have the 
allow_mount_anyfile boolean set.


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Re: Where is lsof?

[Mike Cloaked]

Aaron Konstam wrote:
> 
> 
> /usr/sbin/lsof
> 
> 

Usually a good way to find where a command is would be to use the "which"
command. In this case:
[m...@gestalt ~]$ which lsof
/usr/sbin/lsof
for example
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Discovery Studio 1.7 restarts xserver

[Jack Howarth]

   Does anyone else here have access to Discovery Studio 1.7?
I am finding that when I try to start this program under x86_64
Fedora 10 under the radeon drivers using a X1650 Pro graphics
card that the xserver restarts. There are no errors left behind
in the messages log for this event but it is completely reproducible.
Never had this issue with the non-free drivers.
 Jack
ps This is a severe bug since the user has all of his open programs
quit suddenly.

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Re: digikam on F10 64bit

[Rex Dieter]

Chris Rouch wrote:

> I'm trying to use digikam (digikam-0.10.0-0.6.beta5.fc10.x86_64) on my
> F10 64bit box at home
...
> Can anyone suggest how to debug this?

I'd suggest you update your box, there's been at least a couple of
digikam-releated updates since f-10 release.

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Re: F10 - pulseaudio not running

[Rex Dieter]

Mike Fleetwood wrote:

> To me Fedora 10 appears to set the permissions of the ALSA sound
> devices to read-write for root only and none for all other users. 

ConsoleKit uses acl's to set premissions for console devices (like audio). 
At least, it's *supposed* to.

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Re: Accessing A Fedora 7 Box FROM The Net

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

ad...@anythinggoes wrote:
> Hello Fedora-list,
> 
> I have a F7 server that has been working perfectly as far as getting
> people out into the net.
> 
> But recently, I have needed the capability to access the server FROM
> the net.
> 
> I can ping the server, but I cannot SSH in, FTP in or WEB BROWSE in..
> All the appropriate servers are running and are easily accessed from
> within the 192.168.1.x subnet..
> 
> I don't have a router in place between the box and the Net. I am
> using a DSL Modem in Dumb/Bridge mode. The Fedora 7 handles the
> connection and authentication and acts as a
> Gateway/Router/Firewall to the rest of the 192.168.1.x subnet.
> 
> Another point is I DO have a firewall in play (FireStarter) but I have
> set a rule so that the IP of the test machine is cleared to come in on
> all ports. I have also completely shutdown FireStarter and I still
> couldn't access the Server.  IPtables is also shut down completely,
> so that's not interfering with the connection.
> 
> I am sure it's something grossly simple that I am missing.
> Any help would be most appreciated.
> 
> 
> AG
>   
> 
Did you check the configuring file for the services? They may be
configured to only allow access from the local network.

Also, you would be wise to upgrade to a supported version of Fedora,
especially on a box connected directly to the Internet?

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yum red letters

[Oliver Ruebenacker]

 Hello,

  Any one knows why yum prints the installed Sun Java JRE in red
letters when I list packages? Thanks!

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Re: yum red letters

[Todd Zullinger]

Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:
>   Any one knows why yum prints the installed Sun Java JRE in red
> letters when I list packages? Thanks!

The meanings of the colors used are described in the yum.conf(5) man
page.  For example:

  color_list_installed_extra
  The colorization/highlighting for pacakges in list/info
  installed which has no available package with the same name and
  arch.  Default is ‘bold,red’.  See color_list_installed_older
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kmod-nvidia yum update problem

[Steve]

I get this error when trying to update kmod-nvidia package:

Test Transaction Errors:   
file /lib/modules/2.6.27.21-78.2.41.fc9.x86_64/extra/nvidia/nvidia.ko from 
install of 
kmod-nvidia-2.6.27.21-78.2.41.fc9.x86_64-173.14.15-1.fc9.12.x86_64 conflicts 
with file from package 
kmod-nvidia-2.6.27.21-78.2.41.fc9.x86_64-173.14.15-1.fc9.5.x86_64

which appears to be telling me that it cannot upgrade because the package it is 
trying to replace has a file by the same name. Isn't that the point of an 
upgrade?
I assume I am misinterpreting this.

Thanks,
Steve

$ rpm -qa | grep 'kmod\|nvidia'
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-173.14.15-2.fc9.x86_64
kmod-nvidia-2.6.27.21-78.2.41.fc9.x86_64-173.14.15-1.fc9.5.x86_64
akmod-nvidia-173.14.15-1.fc9.5.x86_64
kmod-ndiswrapper-2.6.27.21-78.2.41.fc9.x86_64-1.53-5.fc9.13.x86_64
kmod-ndiswrapper-2.6.27.15-78.2.23.fc9.x86_64-1.53-5.fc9.11.x86_64
yum-fedorakmod-1.1.19-1.fc9.noarch
kmodtool-1-15.fc9.noarch
kmod-ndiswrapper-1.53-5.fc9.13.x86_64
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs-173.14.15-2.fc9.x86_64
akmods-0.3.3-2.fc9.noarch
kmod-ndiswrapper-2.6.27.19-78.2.30.fc9.x86_64-1.53-5.fc9.12.x86_64

$ uname -r
2.6.27.21-78.2.41.fc9.x86_64



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Re: Accessing A Fedora 7 Box FROM The Net

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 08:07:46 -0400,
  "ad...@anythinggoes"  wrote:
> 
> I can ping the server, but I cannot SSH in, FTP in or WEB BROWSE in..
> All the appropriate servers are running and are easily accessed from
> within the 192.168.1.x subnet..

If you are using those addresses it won't work because those aren't routable.
And your dsl modem with have to be doing nat. If those aren't the correct
addresses, then you are lying to us and that is not a good way to get
your problems solved.

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Re: find tux comic picture help

[Marc Ferguson]

On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Erik Xavior  wrote:

> does anyone knows/have that comic picture of "tux" the Linux penguin that:
>
> - has four pictures in it
> - it defines 4 "levels" of the knowledge of tux, who is "symbolizing a
> learning person"
> - the first one: tux is just a Linux "fanboy"; second: tux is working, and
> say's: "...stupid rpm"; three: I can't remember that:D sorry; four: tux has
> a beard, and the picture says don't mess with it.
>
> thank you, and sorry for the question, but I just can't find it on google
> :D :S
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Hi Xavior,

I don't know about those images your talking about, but I do know of a great
resource for TUX.

http://tux.crystalxp.net/

Maybe you can do a Google search for "tux gallery cartoon" or something of
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Re: "Blinking lights of death" ? Netgear Switch GS108

[Robin Laing]

David Liguori wrote:



Aldo Foot wrote:

On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Robert L Cochran
 wrote:


  
One of the more common mechanisms for failure of electrolytic capacitors 
is too high an ambient temperature over a period of time.  Usually the 
temperature rating is on the cap.  You say the room is well-ventilated 
but that doesn't rule out too high an ambient temperature in a room full 
of equipment, especially if it was sitting on top of or in a rack full 
of other equipment.  It's more likely to have open rather than short 
circuited.  An ESR (effective series resistance) meter will tell.


If you're pretty sure the capacitor is what's ailing it and it's 
through-hole rather than surface mounted, I would consider it well worth 
fixing, or even trying if there's greater than a 10% success 
probability.  Many 8-port switches aren't worth fixing below that.




Another issue is using capacitors that are close to the operating 
voltage of the system.  12V and use 15V capacitors.  This doesn't give 
any overhead for voltage spikes or surges caused by charging and 
discharging circuits.


Remember that many circuit boards are multi-layer now so be careful if 
you are working with a thru-hole circuit board.


Have fun.
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Re: Where is lsof?

[Alan Evans]

On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Mike Cloaked wrote:
> Usually a good way to find where a command is would be to use the "which"
> command. In this case:
> [m...@gestalt ~]$ which lsof
> /usr/sbin/lsof

How is that going to work if /usr/sbin isn't already in your path?

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Re: Where is lsof?

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

Alan Evans wrote:
> On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Mike Cloaked wrote:
>> Usually a good way to find where a command is would be to use the "which"
>> command. In this case:
>> [m...@gestalt ~]$ which lsof
>> /usr/sbin/lsof
> 
> How is that going to work if /usr/sbin isn't already in your path?
> 
It does work. Try it yourself.

$ which lsof
/usr/sbin/lsof
$ echo $PATH
/usr/lib/qt-3.3/bin:/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/lib/ccache:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/home/mikkel/bin

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Re: phoronix-test-suite for Fedora?

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Mon, 4 May 2009 15:22:07 -0700
Dave Stevens  wrote:

...snip...

> [d...@localhost ~]$ uname -a
> Linux localhost.davedomain 2.6.23.17-88.fc7 #1 SMP Thu May 15
> 00:02:29 EDT 2008 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> [d...@localhost ~]$ 
> 
> 
> 
> So maybe I have to wait for F11 when I'm planning to upgrade anyway.

Yeah. F7 is end of life and no longer supported. It does not get
updates of any kind. ;( 

I would suggest you look at upgrading asap. 

> D

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Re: Where is lsof?

[Sharpe, Sam J]

Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:

Alan Evans wrote:
> On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 5:39 AM, Mike Cloaked wrote:
>> Usually a good way to find where a command is would be to use the 
"which"

>> command. In this case:
>> [m...@gestalt ~]$ which lsof
>> /usr/sbin/lsof
> How is that going to work if /usr/sbin isn't already in your path?
>
It does work. Try it yourself.

$ which lsof
/usr/sbin/lsof
$ echo $PATH
/usr/lib/qt-3.3/bin:/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/lib/ccache:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/home/mikkel/bin
You'll note that /usr/sbin *is* in your path and the man page for which 
says:


DESCRIPTION
  Which takes one or more arguments. For each of its arguments it 
prints

  to stdout the full path of the executables that would have been exe-
  cuted when this argument had been entered at the shell prompt. It 
does
  this by searching for an executable or script in the directories 
listed

  in the environment variable PATH using the same algorithm as bash(1).

So if you hadn't had /usr/sbin in your PATH, then "which lsof" would 
have returned nothing - so it isn't useful for this situation...


[...@sam ~]$ echo $PATH
/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin
[...@sam ~]$ which lsof
/usr/sbin/lsof
[...@sam ~]$ export PATH=/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/sbin
[...@sam ~]$ which lsof
/usr/bin/which: no lsof in (/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/sbin)


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Re: kmod-nvidia yum update problem

[Thorsten Leemhuis]

On 05.05.2009 15:54, Steve wrote:

I get this error when trying to update kmod-nvidia package:

Test Transaction Errors:
file /lib/modules/2.6.27.21-78.2.41.fc9.x86_64/extra/nvidia/nvidia.ko from 
install of
kmod-nvidia-2.6.27.21-78.2.41.fc9.x86_64-173.14.15-1.fc9.12.x86_64 conflicts 
with file from package
kmod-nvidia-2.6.27.21-78.2.41.fc9.x86_64-173.14.15-1.fc9.5.x86_64

which appears to be telling me that it cannot upgrade because the package it is 
trying to replace has a file by the same name. Isn't that the point of an 
upgrade?
I assume I am misinterpreting this.


No, you get fooled by yum-fedorakmod; just remove it; see last question 
on http://rpmfusion.org/FAQ


HTH

CU
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Not getting clean shutdowns for FireFox and Epiphany

[William Case]

Hi;

How do I set up rc6 or whatever, so that I get a clean shutdown for
FireFox and Epiphany?

FireFox is started by my session manager and I often use Epiphany -b as
a specialized bookmark editor on my panel.  Whenever I login to start a
new session FireFox and Epiphany gives a standard warning/option of
restoring my previous session.  I want to eliminate those warnings
without having to specifically close those programs before logging out.

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Re: Selinux disallows read-only loop mount of a file, but only at boot [SOLVED]

[David]

I'm attempting to mount a loop device (a ro file) at boot using fstab.
My fstab entry works fine from the command line, but it fails at boot
time due to a selinux avc error. I assume this is due to incorrect
file context. The file is under a nonstandard top level directory, so
I need to specifically assign it the correct file context, which I
would do if I could figure out what it ought to be.

Where do I look on the system to discover what is the correct file
context required by mount at boot time?

The file and context are:
$ ls -lZ /HUGE/get/iso/Fedora-09-i386-DVD/Fedora-09-i386-DVD.iso
-r--r-  root share unconfined_u:object_r:default_t:s0
/HUGE/get/iso/Fedora-09-i386-DVD/Fedora-09-i386-DVD.iso

The fstab line is:
/HUGE/get/iso/Fedora-09-i386-DVD/Fedora-09-i386-DVD.iso /mnt/Fedora-09-i386-DVD 
iso9660 loop,ro,gid=share
0 0

The command line that works is:
# mount /mnt/Fedora-09-i386-DVD

The boot-time error messages are:
Mounting local filesystems:
/HUGE/get/iso/Fedora-09-i386-DVD/Fedora-09-i386-DVD.iso: Permission
denied [FAILED]
Mounting other filesystems:
/HUGE/get/iso/Fedora-09-i386-DVD/Fedora-09-i386-DVD.iso: Permission
denied [FAILED]

The dmesg error is:
type=1400 audit(1241535886.437:4): avc:  denied  { read } for
pid=1335 comm="mount" name="Fedora-09-i386-DVD.iso" dev=sdb2 ino=1922
scontext=system_u:system_r:mount_t:s0
tcontext=unconfined_u:object_r:default_t:s0 tclass=file

My selinux policy is:
# rpm -qa 'selinux-policy-targeted*'
selinux-policy-targeted-3.3.1-132.fc9.noarch

My selinux status is:
# sestatus
SELinux status: enabled
SELinuxfs mount:/selinux
Current mode:   enforcing
Mode from config file:  enforcing
Policy version: 22
Policy from config file:targeted

My os is:
# uname -r
2.6.25-14.fc9.i686

I have the following boolean unset because I wish to utilise selinux
file context to restrict which files can be mounted:
# getsebool allow_mount_anyfile
allow_mount_anyfile --> off

Interestingly, I did discover that the following command allows
subsequent boot-time mounts to succeed:
# chcon -t mount_exec_t /HUGE/get/iso/Fedora-09-i386-DVD/Fedora-09-i386-DVD.iso

But I am unsure whether this is the correct solution.

Where do I look on the system to discover what is the correct file
context required by mount at boot time?

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Re: Where is lsof?

[Alan Evans]

On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> Alan Evans wrote:
>>
>> How is that going to work if /usr/sbin isn't already in your path?
>>
> It does work. Try it yourself.
>
> $ which lsof
> /usr/sbin/lsof
> $ echo $PATH
> /usr/lib/qt-3.3/bin:/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/lib/ccache:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/home/mikkel/bin

I suppose that this is where I, showing incredible restraint, refrain
from pointing and laughing.

What nobody has mentioned yet is that, as of F10, the sbin directories
are defaulted in the paths of mere mortals. So this particular problem
should be obsoleted going forward.

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Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

[jackson byers]

jbyers:
> I explicitly said they are scsi disks in one of my responses
> and yes they are 36gb
> Again, does using scsi disks mean i have special requirements?

craig responded
you probably did - reading through your e-mails is very tough because
you continue to use HTML format which really makes it hard to decipher
everything.

I don't know that scsi would have any special requirements but I was
wondering what the differences would be from Fedora 5 and Fedora 10 and
I suppose that you could compare /etc/modprobe.conf from the 2
installations. It sort of sounds like there is a problem with your
initrd but I can't tell.

-
jbyers:
 html? my apologies, i had no idea.
I guess i need some info in gmail how not to do that.
in my gmail setting
Outgoing message encoding:  
  Use default text encoding for outgoing messages 

Re: Where is lsof?

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

Alan Evans wrote:
> On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>> Alan Evans wrote:
>>> How is that going to work if /usr/sbin isn't already in your path?
>>>
>> It does work. Try it yourself.
>>
>> $ which lsof
>> /usr/sbin/lsof
>> $ echo $PATH
>> /usr/lib/qt-3.3/bin:/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/lib/ccache:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/home/mikkel/bin
> 
> I suppose that this is where I, showing incredible restraint, refrain
> from pointing and laughing.
> 
> What nobody has mentioned yet is that, as of F10, the sbin directories
> are defaulted in the paths of mere mortals. So this particular problem
> should be obsoleted going forward.
> 
Go ahead and laugh - I am having that kind of day anyway. (I should
have stayed in bed!)

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Re: digikam on F10 64bit

[Chris Rouch]

On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Rex Dieter  wrote:
> Chris Rouch wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to use digikam (digikam-0.10.0-0.6.beta5.fc10.x86_64) on my
>> F10 64bit box at home
> ...
>> Can anyone suggest how to debug this?
>
> I'd suggest you update your box, there's been at least a couple of
> digikam-releated updates since f-10 release.
>
> -- Rex
>
>
Thanks for the suggestion - in fact i got the version number wrong.
I'm using digikam-0.10.0-1.fc10.x86_64.

I created a new account and successfully ran digikam from there, so it
is definitely a problem with my config rather than with the s/w
itself.

Thanks,

Chris

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Re: Re[2]: Accessing A Fedora 7 Box FROM The Net

[Frank Cox]

On Tue, 05 May 2009 08:31:29 -0400
ad...@anythinggoes wrote:

>  I am somewhat wary of posting the IP publicly, but
> if it will help.  :D

If it's on the net, it's already public.  

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Re: fedora-list Digest, Fedora Preview 11 ATI Driver install crash IRQ

[Rob Campbell]

Hope I am doing this right. Installed Fedora Preview 11 (which looks amazing
by the way) and installed the RPM Fusion Drivers for ATI. After config and
reboot, crashes with several messages like
avc: denied {search} for pid=176 comm = "readahead_t:s0 tcontext=system_u:
object_r:sysctl_irq_t:s0 tclass=dir type=1400 audit(1241493896.514:47286):
This is on a Core i7 system with X58 Board and ATI 4870X2 ASUS BRAND...
Help?

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>  10. Re: Where is lsof? (Sharpe, Sam J)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 09:41:42 -0400
> From: Oliver Ruebenacker 
> Subject: yum red letters
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> Hello,
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>  Any one knows why yum prints the installed Sun Java JRE in red
> letters when I list packages? Thanks!
>
> Take care
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> Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 09:53:24 -0400
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> Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:
> >   Any one knows why yum prints the installed Sun Java JRE in red
> > letters when I list packages? Thanks!
>
> The meanings of the colors used are described in the yum.conf(5) man
> page.  For example:
>
>  color_list_installed_extra
>  The colorization/highlighting for pacakges in list/info
>  installed which has no available package with the same name and
>  arch.  Default is ‘bold,red’.  See color_list_installed_older
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> I get this error when trying to update kmod-nvidia package:
>
> Test Transaction Errors:
> file /lib/modules/2.6.27.21-78.2.41.fc9.x86_64/extra/nvidia/nvidia.ko from
> install of
> kmod-nvidia-2.6.27.21-78.2.41.fc9.x86_64-173.14.15-1.fc9.12.x86_64
> conflicts with file from package
> kmod-nvidia-2.6.27.21-78.2.41.fc9.x86_64-173.14.15-1.fc9.5.x86_64
>
> which appears to be te

Re: Re[2]: Accessing A Fedora 7 Box FROM The Net

[Craig White]

On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 11:36 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
> On Tue, 05 May 2009 08:31:29 -0400
> ad...@anythinggoes wrote:
> 
> >  I am somewhat wary of posting the IP publicly, but
> > if it will help.  :D
> 
> If it's on the net, it's already public.  

do you mean like the IP Address 74.180.57.230 that's contained in the
headers of each of his e-mails?

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Re: fedora-list Digest, Fedora Preview 11 ATI Driver install crash IRQ

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 13:38 -0400, Rob Campbell wrote:
> Hope I am doing this right.

If by "this" you mean "asking a question" then no, you're not doing it
right.

Which part of yesterday's answer did you not understand?

If you keep ignoring the conventions of this list (which are common to
many other mailing lists of a technical nature) a lot of people are
simply not going to read your question, let alone bother to answer it.

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RE: Selinux disallows read-only loop mount of a file, but only at boot [SOLVED]

[Paul]

Here is your problem right here: SELinux

Have a good, slow read of this:
http://kerneltrap.org/OpenBSD/SELinux_vs_OpenBSDs_Default_Security

If you still want to use SELinux, well, there's not much I can do to help
you.

Cheers,

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On Behalf Of David
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 8:57 AM
To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora.
Cc: dwa...@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Selinux disallows read-only loop mount of a file, but only at
boot [SOLVED]

I'm attempting to mount a loop device (a ro file) at boot using fstab.
My fstab entry works fine from the command line, but it fails at boot time
due to a selinux avc error. I assume this is due to incorrect file context.
The file is under a nonstandard top level directory, so I need to
specifically assign it the correct file context, which I would do if I could
figure out what it ought to be.

Where do I look on the system to discover what is the correct file context
required by mount at boot time?

The file and context are:
$ ls -lZ /HUGE/get/iso/Fedora-09-i386-DVD/Fedora-09-i386-DVD.iso
-r--r-  root share unconfined_u:object_r:default_t:s0
/HUGE/get/iso/Fedora-09-i386-DVD/Fedora-09-i386-DVD.iso

The fstab line is:
/HUGE/get/iso/Fedora-09-i386-DVD/Fedora-09-i386-DVD.iso
/mnt/Fedora-09-i386-DVD iso9660 loop,ro,gid=share
0 0

The command line that works is:
# mount /mnt/Fedora-09-i386-DVD

The boot-time error messages are:
Mounting local filesystems:
/HUGE/get/iso/Fedora-09-i386-DVD/Fedora-09-i386-DVD.iso: Permission denied
[FAILED] Mounting other filesystems:
/HUGE/get/iso/Fedora-09-i386-DVD/Fedora-09-i386-DVD.iso: Permission denied
[FAILED]

The dmesg error is:
type=1400 audit(1241535886.437:4): avc:  denied  { read } for
pid=1335 comm="mount" name="Fedora-09-i386-DVD.iso" dev=sdb2 ino=1922
scontext=system_u:system_r:mount_t:s0
tcontext=unconfined_u:object_r:default_t:s0 tclass=file

My selinux policy is:
# rpm -qa 'selinux-policy-targeted*'
selinux-policy-targeted-3.3.1-132.fc9.noarch

My selinux status is:
# sestatus
SELinux status: enabled
SELinuxfs mount:/selinux
Current mode:   enforcing
Mode from config file:  enforcing
Policy version: 22
Policy from config file:targeted

My os is:
# uname -r
2.6.25-14.fc9.i686

I have the following boolean unset because I wish to utilise selinux file
context to restrict which files can be mounted:
# getsebool allow_mount_anyfile
allow_mount_anyfile --> off

Interestingly, I did discover that the following command allows subsequent
boot-time mounts to succeed:
# chcon -t mount_exec_t
/HUGE/get/iso/Fedora-09-i386-DVD/Fedora-09-i386-DVD.iso

But I am unsure whether this is the correct solution.

Where do I look on the system to discover what is the correct file context
required by mount at boot time?

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what is "Document Viewer"?

[brian]

FC10

I only see a reference to this "Document Viewer" app in the Nautilus 
"open as" dialog. There's nothing in the Applications menu and apropos 
doesn't show anything. I'd like to know what the app is called and the 
version.


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Re: what is "Document Viewer"?

[Georgi Hristozov]

Hi,
brian написа:

FC10

I only see a reference to this "Document Viewer" app in the Nautilus 
"open as" dialog. There's nothing in the Applications menu and apropos 
doesn't show anything. I'd like to know what the app is called and the 
version.



http://projects.gnome.org/evince/

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Re: what is "Document Viewer"?

[Sharpe, Sam J]

2009/5/5 brian :
> FC10
>
> I only see a reference to this "Document Viewer" app in the Nautilus "open
> as" dialog. There's nothing in the Applications menu and apropos doesn't
> show anything. I'd like to know what the app is called and the version.

[...@machine ~]$ rpm -qi evince | egrep "(Name|Summary|Version|Release)"
Name: evince   Relocations: (not relocatable)
Version : 2.24.2Vendor: Fedora Project
Release : 1.fc10Build Date: Tue 25 Nov
2008 02:59:51 GMT
Summary : Document viewer



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Re[4]: Accessing A Fedora 7 Box FROM The Net

[ad...@anythinggoes]

Hello Craig,

Nope...

That's my home setup...  It's from there that I am trying to access
my shop server...  :D






Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 1:52:13 PM, you wrote:

> On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 11:36 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
>> On Tue, 05 May 2009 08:31:29 -0400
>> ad...@anythinggoes wrote:
>> 
>> >  I am somewhat wary of posting the IP publicly, but
>> > if it will help.  :D
>> 
>> If it's on the net, it's already public.  
> 
> do you mean like the IP Address 74.180.57.230 that's contained in the
> headers of each of his e-mails?

> Craig


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Re: Software request

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 05/04/2009 11:00 PM, Beartooth Comcast wrote:
> On Mon, 4 May 2009, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> 
>> On 05/04/2009 08:56 PM, Beartooth Comcast wrote:
>>> On Mon, 4 May 2009, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>>>
 On 04/29/2009 07:39 PM, Beartooth wrote:
> Could some kind soul make an rpm and put it into a repository for
> gnome-format? It's at
>
> http://live.gnome.org/gnome-format -- and there are .debs there, but
> no .rpms.

 Here, you go

 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1335062

 I need to put this up for review but you can pick it up meanwhile. Let
 me know if you find any issues.
>>>
>>> Many thanks -- and, alas!, I do have one. It's probably my
>>> incompetence (I never touch source code), but it looks a lot like the
>>> failures I've been getting with the packagekit updater :
>>>
>>> [r...@hbsk2 btth]# rpm -ivh gnome-format-0.1.1-1.fc10.i386.rpm
>>> rpmdb: Thread/process 22733/3086984896 failed: Thread died in Berkeley
>>> DB library
>>
>> Run these commands:
>>
>> rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db*
>> rpm --rebuilddb
>>
>> and try again.
> 
> [r...@hbsk2 btth]# rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db*
> [r...@hbsk2 btth]# rpm --rebuilddb
> [r...@hbsk2 btth]# rpm -ivh gnome-format-0.1.1-1.fc10.i386.rpm

# yum localinstall  --nogpgcheck

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Re: yum plugin interactions?

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 05/05/2009 01:50 PM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote:
> On 05/05/09 09:10, Richard Hughes wrote:
> 
>>
>> Yes. PackageKit runs every yum plugin except refresh-packagekit when it
>> runs.
>>
>> Richard.
>>
>>
> 
> 
> How does it work in with skip-broken,
> or is that built into yum for F11?

skip-broken has been a built-in feature in yum for a long time now.

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Re: yum plugin interactions?

[Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)]

On 05/05/09 20:00, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

On 05/05/2009 01:50 PM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote:

On 05/05/09 09:10, Richard Hughes wrote:



How does it work in with skip-broken,
or is that built into yum for F11?


skip-broken has been a built-in feature in yum for a long time now.

Rahul



So no longer need to type in yum skip-broken
cool

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Re: what is "Document Viewer"?

[brian]

Sharpe, Sam J wrote:

2009/5/5 brian :

FC10

I only see a reference to this "Document Viewer" app in the Nautilus "open
as" dialog. There's nothing in the Applications menu and apropos doesn't
show anything. I'd like to know what the app is called and the version.


[...@machine ~]$ rpm -qi evince | egrep "(Name|Summary|Version|Release)"
Name: evince   Relocations: (not relocatable)
Version : 2.24.2Vendor: Fedora Project
Release : 1.fc10Build Date: Tue 25 Nov
2008 02:59:51 GMT
Summary : Document viewer



Thanks, Sam & Georgi. I'm having a little PDF issue: ghostscript is 
complaining but Document Viewer is not. I needed to know that app is for 
debugging info. This is perfect.


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Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

[Sharpe, Sam J]

2009/5/5 jackson byers :
> jbyers:
>  html? my apologies, i had no idea.
> I guess i need some info in gmail how not to do that.
> in my gmail setting
> Outgoing message encoding:
>  Use default text encoding for outgoing messages <  Use Unicode (UTF-8) encoding for outgoing messages
> nothing here explicitly HTML
> i will try the utf-8

That's interesting - I didn't actually see how you are sending HTML.
My Gmail is set to "default text encoding" (not UTF-8) and I seem to
be sending messages in text:

Subject: Re: what is "Document Viewer"?
From: "Sharpe, Sam J" 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Your messages are sending in both HTML and text, so technically the
receiver can decide which one to view based on their capabilities or
preferences (but you're still wasting other people's bandwidth - which
is typically what they are objecting to). I had no idea how you set
Gmail to do that, but having had a look around, I found this post:
http://personalweb.about.com/b/2005/04/04/gmail-lets-you-send-html-email.htm

I've never noticed the "Rich formatting" link that appears above my
compose box before, but I think that's what you are using - try
hitting the "Plain text" link you should have and see if that sticks
as a preference (as I can't see anywhere to force it).

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Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

[jackson byers]

David wrote
Just in case you are not aware of this Jackson, it may help to know
that the boot process and messages can be paused by pressing ctrlS and
resumed by ctrlQ

jbyers:

thanks David, that helps me look at all msgs up to some point
shy of the failure point
which is  something like
Waiting for X-server...
I cant catch final part of that line,
the screen goes blank immmediately after it shows up.

additional info:
1)commenting out  hiddenmenu  in grub.conf
--does not present the choices to me, it just grabs first one
--even worse, it prevents ESC from showing the choices
So now I am back to   hiddenmenunobegining # and ESC works

2)acpi=off looks no different, gets to Waiting for X-server...
  then screen blanks

3)retesting taking scsi_mod.scan=sync out of the kernel line
still with "rhgb quiet" removed
goes back to what I previously observed:

mount:  error mounting /dev/root  on /sysroot   no such file or directory

that msg does point to the initrd because the init script therein
is trying do that mount
but now that scsi_mod.scan=sync appended to kernel line
gets past that error, I dont see further evidence of initrd error.

so
scsi_mod.scan=sync is required. FWIW at the end I copy
the section from f10releasenotes on this.


4)I remain stuck at Waiting for X-server..
 It is not as if X is just failing to come up
 with normal boot otherwise;  this prevents the boot from finishing

Jack
here is the quote
==from f10  commonproblems or f10 release notes
  New Fedora 10 installs do not boot, boot delays for 10 seconds or
stabilization cannot be detected

link to this item - Bugzilla: #473305 and Bugzilla: #470628 On systems
that use specific SCSI hardware (can include SATA controllers), a
fresh install could complete, but on reboot it would hang and either
display "stabilization cannot be detected", delay for 10 seconds or
not continue to boot at all, with sg or other devices being listed.

The problem is that mkinitrd was edited to enhance boot times. This
introduced an IF clause, that, under specific circumstances, causes
scsi_wait_scan not to be loaded and also prevents 'emit "stablized
--hash --interval 250 /proc/scsi/scsi"'from being called, and hence
the above mentioned issues occur.

In order to fix this issue, a temporary option can be used, by editing
the kernel argument from within grub and appending
"scsi_mod.scan=sync". This will allow the boot to proceed in most
circumstances, although it might take a few seconds to proceed. By
using the mentioned kernel argument anaconda freeze-ups and crashes on
some systems are also prevented, during the installation process.

A better fix is to rebuild the initrd that the kernel requires in
order to boot. mkinitrd --with=scsi_wait_scan (detailed instructions
below). Beginners please follow the steps below:

# To fix this issue, boot from live-media.
#Become root on the live-system (note the dash):
su -
# Enable LVM, if you are using LVM:
vgchange -ay
# Create a mount point:
mkdir /mnt/sysimage
# Mount your installed system (VGhere = Your VolumeGroup;
# LVname = Name of Logical Volume):
mount -t ext3 /dev/VGhere/LVname /mnt/sysimage
# Note: Experienced users also mount your other mount points,
# such as /var into the chroot.

# If required mount the /boot partition into the chroot
# (where sdxx is the /boot partition):
mount -t ext3 /dev/sdxx /mnt/sysimage/boot
# Mount the required special kernel directories into the chroot environment:
mount --bind /dev/ /mnt/sysimage/dev
mount --bind /proc /mnt/sysimage/proc
mount --bind /sys /mnt/sysimage/sys
# Change into the directory root of your installed system:
chroot /mnt/sysimage
# Rename your old initrd (note your initrd version might be different,
# modify as required)
mv initrd-2.6.27.7-130.fc10.x86_64.img initrd-2.6.27.7-130.fc10.x86_64.img.old
# Create your new initrd image
# Note: The third argument after mkinitrd is the kernel version)
mkinitrd --with=scsi_wait_scan initrd-2.6.27.7-130.fc10.x86_64.img
2.6.27.7-130.fc10.x86_64
# Exit the chroot environment and reboot:
exit
reboot

Now pray! Please note the lines beginning with a "#" are comments!
Some command lines are separated by a carriage return.

Important Note: mkinitrd-6.0.71-3.fc10 fixes the issue above!! Please
update your system after fixing manually, or better after booting
using the kernel argument "scsi_mod.scan=sync" !!!


Jack

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Wireless speed drops

[Georgi Hristozov]

Hi,

I'm having an odd problem with Fedora 10. I'm using the x86 version 
(fully updated) on Toshiba Satellite A200. My network card is Intel 
3945ABG and I'm using 802.11g with WPA.


After a few minutes with this maximum speed of my home network 
(20-23MBps), it suddenly drops to values around 1MBps and doesn't 
increase again, no matter what I try. The only solution is to restart 
Network Manager. After deactivating NM and trying wicd, the problem 
persisted. And I was able to solve it by restarting wicd, like the case 
with NM. Some people from the Bulgarian LUG suggested that it's from 
iwl3945, because they have similar issues. But they don't have a 
solution yet. Unfortunately, I don't see anything suspicious in the 
logs. I tried updating the system, but it didn't help. Using some koji 
packages, including 2.6.29, led to the same result.


Any ideas how can I debug this issue? It isn't a big pain in my everyday 
use, but gets pretty annoying when I'm downloading something big. Any 
help will be appreciated. Thanks in advance!


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Re: kmod-nvidia yum update problem

[Steve]

 Thorsten Leemhuis  wrote: 
> On 05.05.2009 15:54, Steve wrote:
> > I get this error when trying to update kmod-nvidia package:
> >
> > Test Transaction Errors:
> > file /lib/modules/2.6.27.21-78.2.41.fc9.x86_64/extra/nvidia/nvidia.ko from 
> > install of
> > kmod-nvidia-2.6.27.21-78.2.41.fc9.x86_64-173.14.15-1.fc9.12.x86_64 
> > conflicts with file from package
> > kmod-nvidia-2.6.27.21-78.2.41.fc9.x86_64-173.14.15-1.fc9.5.x86_64

> No, you get fooled by yum-fedorakmod; just remove it; see last question 
> on http://rpmfusion.org/FAQ

That tool care of it. 
Thanks,
Steve

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Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

[Craig White]

On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 13:31 -0700, jackson byers wrote:
> David wrote
> Just in case you are not aware of this Jackson, it may help to know
> that the boot process and messages can be paused by pressing ctrlS and
> resumed by ctrlQ
> 
> jbyers:
> 
> thanks David, that helps me look at all msgs up to some point
> shy of the failure point
> which is  something like
> Waiting for X-server...
> I cant catch final part of that line,
> the screen goes blank immmediately after it shows up.

this sounds like an x problem...another problem entirely

> additional info:
> 1)commenting out  hiddenmenu  in grub.conf
> --does not present the choices to me, it just grabs first one

Just a note here...you have to press a key on the keyboard in order to
have choices.

also, a line like the following in /boot/grub/grub.conf
timeout  10 
can give you enough time to press a key on the keyboard to have choices

> --even worse, it prevents ESC from showing the choices
> So now I am back to   hiddenmenunobegining # and ESC works
> 
> 2)acpi=off looks no different, gets to Waiting for X-server...
>   then screen blanks
> 
> 3)retesting taking scsi_mod.scan=sync out of the kernel line
> still with "rhgb quiet" removed
> goes back to what I previously observed:
> 
> mount:  error mounting /dev/root  on /sysroot   no such file or directory
> 
> that msg does point to the initrd because the init script therein
> is trying do that mount
> but now that scsi_mod.scan=sync appended to kernel line
> gets past that error, I dont see further evidence of initrd error.
> 
> so
> scsi_mod.scan=sync is required. FWIW at the end I copy
> the section from f10releasenotes on this.
> 
> 
> 4)I remain stuck at Waiting for X-server..
>  It is not as if X is just failing to come up
>  with normal boot otherwise;  this prevents the boot from finishing
> 
> Jack
> here is the quote
> ==from f10  commonproblems or f10 release notes
>   New Fedora 10 installs do not boot, boot delays for 10 seconds or
> stabilization cannot be detected
> 
> link to this item - Bugzilla: #473305 and Bugzilla: #470628 On systems
> that use specific SCSI hardware (can include SATA controllers), a
> fresh install could complete, but on reboot it would hang and either
> display "stabilization cannot be detected", delay for 10 seconds or
> not continue to boot at all, with sg or other devices being listed.
> 
> The problem is that mkinitrd was edited to enhance boot times. This
> introduced an IF clause, that, under specific circumstances, causes
> scsi_wait_scan not to be loaded and also prevents 'emit "stablized
> --hash --interval 250 /proc/scsi/scsi"'from being called, and hence
> the above mentioned issues occur.
> 
> In order to fix this issue, a temporary option can be used, by editing
> the kernel argument from within grub and appending
> "scsi_mod.scan=sync". This will allow the boot to proceed in most
> circumstances, although it might take a few seconds to proceed. By
> using the mentioned kernel argument anaconda freeze-ups and crashes on
> some systems are also prevented, during the installation process.
> 
> A better fix is to rebuild the initrd that the kernel requires in
> order to boot. mkinitrd --with=scsi_wait_scan (detailed instructions
> below). Beginners please follow the steps below:
> 
> # To fix this issue, boot from live-media.
> #Become root on the live-system (note the dash):
> su -
> # Enable LVM, if you are using LVM:
> vgchange -ay
> # Create a mount point:
> mkdir /mnt/sysimage
> # Mount your installed system (VGhere = Your VolumeGroup;
> # LVname = Name of Logical Volume):
> mount -t ext3 /dev/VGhere/LVname /mnt/sysimage
> # Note: Experienced users also mount your other mount points,
> # such as /var into the chroot.
> 
> # If required mount the /boot partition into the chroot
> # (where sdxx is the /boot partition):
> mount -t ext3 /dev/sdxx /mnt/sysimage/boot
> # Mount the required special kernel directories into the chroot environment:
> mount --bind /dev/ /mnt/sysimage/dev
> mount --bind /proc /mnt/sysimage/proc
> mount --bind /sys /mnt/sysimage/sys
> # Change into the directory root of your installed system:
> chroot /mnt/sysimage
> # Rename your old initrd (note your initrd version might be different,
> # modify as required)
> mv initrd-2.6.27.7-130.fc10.x86_64.img initrd-2.6.27.7-130.fc10.x86_64.img.old
> # Create your new initrd image
> # Note: The third argument after mkinitrd is the kernel version)
> mkinitrd --with=scsi_wait_scan initrd-2.6.27.7-130.fc10.x86_64.img
> 2.6.27.7-130.fc10.x86_64
> # Exit the chroot environment and reboot:
> exit
> reboot
> 
> Now pray! Please note the lines beginning with a "#" are comments!
> Some command lines are separated by a carriage return.
> 
> Important Note: mkinitrd-6.0.71-3.fc10 fixes the issue above!! Please
> update your system after fixing manually, or better after booting
> using the kernel argument "scsi_mod.scan=sync" !!!

If you read Bill Nottingham's com

Re: Selinux disallows read-only loop mount of a file, but only at boot [SOLVED]

[Alan Cox]

On Tue, 5 May 2009 10:39:19 -0700
"Paul"  wrote:

> Here is your problem right here: SELinux
> 
> Have a good, slow read of this:
> http://kerneltrap.org/OpenBSD/SELinux_vs_OpenBSDs_Default_Security

Why ?

Why not point him at some useful technical content on the subject instead
of a random rather uninformed looking discussion ?

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Re: Installing a module

[Nigel Henry]

On Tuesday 05 May 2009 00:55, William Case wrote:
> Thanks Nigel;
>
> On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 23:06 +0200, Nigel Henry wrote:
> > On Sunday 03 May 2009 20:04, William Case wrote:
> > > Hi;
> > >
> > > I have had difficulty getting tvtime to work.  There is no sound and
> > > the channel changer wouldn't work.
> > >
> > > I have solved the channel changing problem by modprobe tuner -- but I
> > > can't get it to stick i.e. I need to put a line into modprobe.d.  How
> > > do I do this?
> > >
> > > I have checked man modprobe.d --  "install modulename command..."
> > > Will "install tuner" do or do I need a specific command? If so what
> > > would it be?  I have no dependencies etc.
> > >
> > > As well, there is file /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf.dist.  I assume
> > > this is where I add the line -- but no mention of modprobe.conf.dist is
> > > made in man.
> > >
> > > Just some suggestions would be helpful regarding sound.
> > >
> > > I am using alsa
> > >
> > > My tvtime.xml is set to :line
> > > I have no actual external line-in from my Hauppauge WinTV HVR 1800 PCIe
> > > tv tuner card to my sound.
> > >
> > > My Volume Gui is set to HDA Intel (Alsa Mixer)
> > > with volume sliders for Master (60%), PCM (100%), Front (100%), Line-in
> > > (100%), CD (0 %), PC Speaker (100%)
> > >
> > > I have been told that tvtime automatically finds my sound mixer driver
> > > and after that all sound problems are with alsa !?
> > >
> > > What other sound configurations should I experiment with?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Regards Bill
> > > Fedora 10, Gnome 2.24.3
> > > Evo.2.24.5, Emacs 22.3.1
> >
> > Hi Bill.
> >
> > I probably can't help much as my card is an Hauppauge WinTV Express.
> > Analogue TV (antenna), and the card has an audio out for connecting to
> > the line in on the soundcard.
>
> People keep asking me that.  On a previous TV tuner I did need a line
> from tuner audio-out to sound audio line-in so I know what you are
> talking about.  But none was provided with the Hauppauge tuner kit; PCIe
> is not supposed to require one (as I understand it) and my WindowsXP
> setup works fine without one.
>
> > Anyway can you send the output from the following before you
> > modprobe the tuner module.
> >
> > lspci -vn
> > lsmod(the whole lsmod please)
>
> The output is attached below.
>
> > To autoload the tuner module at bootup, and as Fedora does not have
> > an /etc/modules file (as debian has), try putting the line below
> > in /etc/rc.d/rc.local
> >
> > modprobe tuner
>
> Of course.  I got so carried away with trying to
> modify /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf.dist I forgot the obvious.
>
> > Not sure on the sound problem as I don't know how the sound is routed to
> > the soundcard from your TV card. Open alsamixer as below, and press F4
> > which will show the capture controls. If your soundcard is an hda-intel
> > one, there will be few controls showing, but maybe it's worth a fiddle
> > with what's there.
>
> Alsamixer shows me PulseAudio, Capture with only one channel (Capture),
> and, recording off.  I am going to fiddle.
>
> > Also F10 has got pulseaudio installed, and perhaps pulseaudio has
> > something to do with the lack of sound from the TV card. Do the sounds
> > work ok apart from the TV card?
>
> Yes.
>
> > I never got tvtime to work well, and use xawtv myself.
>
> I can't get mplayer or xawtv to work either.  I thought it was probably
> all the same problem so I might as well keep hammering away at tvtime
> until something works.  (I really haven't put an effort into xawtv yet.)


> Regards Bill
> Fedora 10, Gnome 2.24.3
> Evo.2.24.5, Emacs 22.3.1

Hi Bill.

Apologies. I forgot to add the alsamixer command so as to bypass the default 
alsamixer screen when pulseaudio is installed. The command below will open 
alsamixer and show all controls available for your soundcard. Again F4 will 
show the capture controls.

alsamixer -D hw:0

Your lsmod shows a bunch of modules loaded that are specific to the TV card. 
Quite why the tuner module isn't being loaded automatically, I don't know. It 
may be worth a look at dmesg, and see what is being loaded for the TV card. 
You may see some reference to the tuner module.

If you still can't get any sounds after fiddling with alsamixer, it may be 
worth disabling pulseaudio temporarily, in case it for some reason is not 
able to deal with sound output from the TV card. The command below as root 
will disable it.

yum remove alsa-plugins-pulseaudio

If your using KDE like me, kde-settings-pulseaudio will also be removed, so to 
re-enable pulseaudio you will have install both packages.

All the best.

Nigel.

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Cron-o-meter (Java application) crashes F10 KDE 4.2.2 sessions.

[Linuxguy123]

I am running cronometer 0.9.5 as downloaded from
http://spaz.ca/cronometer/ .

It ran fine with KDE 4.2 and 4.2.1.  It now crashes the session with KDE
4.2.2.  It looks like something is wrong with repaint.  It seems fine if
the application is just open, but as soon as you move the application
window the whole desktop area starts going weird. 

$ java -version
java version "1.6.0_10"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_10-b33)
Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 11.0-b15, mixed mode)

BTW: Cronometer seems to be well written and its useful for people who
want to track diet and fitness goals. I recommend that it be included in
the Fedora repositories. 

Thanks for listening.


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Re: Installing a module

[Nigel Henry]

On Tuesday 05 May 2009 02:52, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> Nigel Henry wrote:
> > To autoload the tuner module at bootup, and as Fedora does not have
> > an /etc/modules file (as debian has), try putting the line below
> > in /etc/rc.d/rc.local
>
> What kernel is Debian running? /etc/modules was replaced by
> /etc/modprobe.conf or /etc/modprobe.d/* in newer the 2.6.x kernels.
>
> Mikkel

Hi Mikkel.

It's a different file I was referring to on Debian. It's simply named modules, 
not modules.conf as was on FC1 with the 2.4 kernel. You can simply add the 
names of modules you want to be loaded at bootup in /etc/modules on Debian, 
as below.

8139too
tuner

Nigel.

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Re: Cron-o-meter (Java application) crashes F10 KDE 4.2.2 sessions.

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 05/06/2009 03:19 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote:

> 
> BTW: Cronometer seems to be well written and its useful for people who
> want to track diet and fitness goals. I recommend that it be included in
> the Fedora repositories. 
> 
> Thanks for listening.

Would you be willing to participate and be a maintainer?

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/Join

Even if you don't understand packaging, you can read up, ask questions
and get help.

Rahul

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Re: Installing a module

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

Nigel Henry wrote:
> On Tuesday 05 May 2009 02:52, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>> Nigel Henry wrote:
>>> To autoload the tuner module at bootup, and as Fedora does not have
>>> an /etc/modules file (as debian has), try putting the line below
>>> in /etc/rc.d/rc.local
>> What kernel is Debian running? /etc/modules was replaced by
>> /etc/modprobe.conf or /etc/modprobe.d/* in newer the 2.6.x kernels.
>>
>> Mikkel
> 
> Hi Mikkel.
> 
> It's a different file I was referring to on Debian. It's simply named 
> modules, 
> not modules.conf as was on FC1 with the 2.4 kernel. You can simply add the 
> names of modules you want to be loaded at bootup in /etc/modules on Debian, 
> as below.
> 
> 8139too
> tuner
> 
> Nigel.
> 
Oh - then I think you are talking about the /etc/sysconfig/modules
directory on later versions of Fedora. Again, you can have more then
one file in the directory - one for each device you are loading
modules for.

Mikkel
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Re: Installing a module

[Nigel Henry]

On Wednesday 06 May 2009 00:11, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> Nigel Henry wrote:
> > On Tuesday 05 May 2009 02:52, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> >> Nigel Henry wrote:
> >>> To autoload the tuner module at bootup, and as Fedora does not have
> >>> an /etc/modules file (as debian has), try putting the line below
> >>> in /etc/rc.d/rc.local
> >>
> >> What kernel is Debian running? /etc/modules was replaced by
> >> /etc/modprobe.conf or /etc/modprobe.d/* in newer the 2.6.x kernels.
> >>
> >> Mikkel
> >
> > Hi Mikkel.
> >
> > It's a different file I was referring to on Debian. It's simply named
> > modules, not modules.conf as was on FC1 with the 2.4 kernel. You can
> > simply add the names of modules you want to be loaded at bootup in
> > /etc/modules on Debian, as below.
> >
> > 8139too
> > tuner
> >
> > Nigel.
>
> Oh - then I think you are talking about the /etc/sysconfig/modules
> directory on later versions of Fedora. Again, you can have more then
> one file in the directory - one for each device you are loading
> modules for.
>
> Mikkel

I'll have to have a look at that tomorrow.

Nigel.

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Re: Cron-o-meter (Java application) crashes F10 KDE 4.2.2 sessions.

[Craig White]

On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 03:35 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 05/06/2009 03:19 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote:
> 
> > 
> > BTW: Cronometer seems to be well written and its useful for people who
> > want to track diet and fitness goals. I recommend that it be included in
> > the Fedora repositories. 
> > 
> > Thanks for listening.
> 
> Would you be willing to participate and be a maintainer?
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/Join
> 
> Even if you don't understand packaging, you can read up, ask questions
> and get help.

how is he supposed to pull that off if he's using Sun's JRE and not
OpenJDK?

Craig


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Re: Cron-o-meter (Java application) crashes F10 KDE 4.2.2 sessions.

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 05/06/2009 03:53 AM, Craig White wrote:

> how is he supposed to pull that off if he's using Sun's JRE and not
> OpenJDK?

What he uses on his own system is his preference.

There is no reason it shouldn't work with OpenJDK since OpenJDK in
Fedora has passed TCK 100%. Of course, if there are any bugs that is
preventing the application from running with OpenJDK, you can file them.

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Re: Selinux disallows read-only loop mount of a file, but only at boot [SOLVED]

[Eamon Walsh]

David wrote:
> I'm attempting to mount a loop device (a ro file) at boot using fstab.
> My fstab entry works fine from the command line, but it fails at boot
> time due to a selinux avc error. I assume this is due to incorrect
> file context. The file is under a nonstandard top level directory, so
> I need to specifically assign it the correct file context, which I
> would do if I could figure out what it ought to be.
>   

mount_loopback_t.

The reason why

cat /etc/selinux/targeted/contexts/files/file_contexts | grep mount

did not give the answer is because there are no files installed by
default with that label.


> Where do I look on the system to discover what is the correct file
> context required by mount at boot time?
>   

[Disclaimer: the commands below were run on a F10 box.  Try them on your
box to verify.]

Method 1:  use the sesearch command to find rules in the policy.

# yum install setools-console
# man sesearch
# sesearch -A -s mount_t -c file -p read  |  grep loop
allow mount_t mount_loopback_t : file { ioctl read getattr lock } ;
#

If you leave off the "grep loop" you get a much longer list of things
mount_t is allowed to read, but you can still find mount_loopback_t, 
sorting the list helps.



Method 2:  look at the refpolicy source.

# yum install yum-utils
# cd ~
# yumdownloader --source selinux-policy
# rpm -i selinux-policy-*.src.rpm
# cd rpmbuild/SOURCES
# tar ztf serefpolicy-3.5.13.tgz | grep mount
serefpolicy-3.5.13/policy/modules/services/automount.fc
serefpolicy-3.5.13/policy/modules/services/automount.te
serefpolicy-3.5.13/policy/modules/services/automount.if
serefpolicy-3.5.13/policy/modules/system/mount.fc
serefpolicy-3.5.13/policy/modules/system/mount.if
serefpolicy-3.5.13/policy/modules/system/mount.te
# tar zxf serefpolicy-3.5.13.tgz  --wildcards --no-anchored '*/mount.te'
# grep loop serefpolicy-3.5.13/policy/modules/system/mount.te
type mount_loopback_t; # customizable
files_type(mount_loopback_t)
allow mount_t mount_loopback_t:file read_file_perms;
#

Again, if you didn't know to grep for "loop" you could read the whole
.te file.  The three lines above all appear on the first page of the file.


Method 3: browse the refpolicy source online:
http://oss.tresys.com/projects/refpolicy/browser/trunk/policy/modules/system/mount.te

 


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Re: Cron-o-meter (Java application) crashes F10 KDE 4.2.2 sessions.

[Craig White]

On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 04:05 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 05/06/2009 03:53 AM, Craig White wrote:
> 
> > how is he supposed to pull that off if he's using Sun's JRE and not
> > OpenJDK?
> 
> What he uses on his own system is his preference.
> 
> There is no reason it shouldn't work with OpenJDK since OpenJDK in
> Fedora has passed TCK 100%. Of course, if there are any bugs that is
> preventing the application from running with OpenJDK, you can file them.
> 

and if someone reports a bug against the package, he tells them that it
works with Sun Java?

Craig


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Re: Cron-o-meter (Java application) crashes F10 KDE 4.2.2 sessions.

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 05/06/2009 04:32 AM, Craig White wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 04:05 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>> On 05/06/2009 03:53 AM, Craig White wrote:
>>
>>> how is he supposed to pull that off if he's using Sun's JRE and not
>>> OpenJDK?
>> What he uses on his own system is his preference.
>>
>> There is no reason it shouldn't work with OpenJDK since OpenJDK in
>> Fedora has passed TCK 100%. Of course, if there are any bugs that is
>> preventing the application from running with OpenJDK, you can file them.
>>
> 
> and if someone reports a bug against the package, he tells them that it
> works with Sun Java?

Not sure I understand the context of the question well. For the
application to be packaged in Fedora, it needs to work with OpenJDK
first. So part of the packaging process is to ensure integration. If on
a later date a bug report is filed, the answer would depend on what the
bug report is about in the first place.

If it is a bug in the application, he needs to file it upstream, if it
is the packaging, he needs to fix it. If it is about interaction with
OpenJDK vs Sun JDK, he can file it against OpenJDK and if it does work
with Sun JDK, he is free to suggest that as a workaround.

Rahul

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Re: Cron-o-meter (Java application) crashes F10 KDE 4.2.2 sessions.

[Linuxguy123]

On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 16:02 -0700, Craig White wrote:
> and if someone reports a bug against the package, he tells them that
> it
> works with Sun Java?

I knew that I was going to get criticized for using JRE and not
OpenJDK.

I don't have time to be the maintainer for anything right now.  Maybe in
the fall, I'll see how my projects go this summer. 

What JVM is used is irrelevant.  They should both work with KDE4.2.2 or
maybe more correctly, KDE4.2.2 should work with both of them.  I'm
guessing that the Java widget library doesn't work with KDE4.2.2.  Does
Cronometer use Swing ?  I haven't looked yet.

Cronometer & JRE worked fine with KDE 4.2.1 and now it/they crash with
KDE 4.2.2 on my machine.  Has anyone been able to duplicate this
behavior ?

Thanks


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Re: Cron-o-meter (Java application) crashes F10 KDE 4.2.2 sessions.

[Linuxguy123]

I did a alternatives --config java and selected JDM instead of JRE.

I ran cronometer and it behaved the same.   The problem exists
regardless of which JVM is used.

# java -version
java version "1.6.0_0"
IcedTea6 1.4 (fedora-15.b14.fc10-i386) Runtime Environment (build
1.6.0_0-b14)
OpenJDK Server VM (build 14.0-b08, mixed mode)

Can someone confirm they are experiencing the same behavior ?

Thanks

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Re: Selinux disallows read-only loop mount of a file, but only at boot [SOLVED]

[David]

On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Eamon Walsh  wrote:
> David wrote:
>> I'm attempting to mount a loop device (a ro file) at boot using fstab.
>> My fstab entry works fine from the command line, but it fails at boot
>> time due to a selinux avc error. I assume this is due to incorrect
>> file context. The file is under a nonstandard top level directory, so
>> I need to specifically assign it the correct file context, which I
>> would do if I could figure out what it ought to be.
>
> mount_loopback_t.

Yes this works. Thank you to everyone who replied. Thanks Eamon for
nurturing my understanding of selinux, which is what I hoped for when
posting. I will explore your suggestions.

Actually I did notice "mount_loopback_t" early in my exploration. But
I naively ignored it due to my expectation that "loopback" refers to a
network interface, not a "loop" device as used by mount.

I did not realise how widespread it is to confuse these terms. The
word loopback does not appear in 'man 8 mount'. It really surprises me
that the selinux specification is not more precise on this usage.

Surely "mount_loopback_t" is a mistake, it should be named "mount_loop_t".

Some people are never happy!! ;-)

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Re: f10dvd installs but won't boot

[David]

On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Craig White  wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 13:31 -0700, jackson byers wrote:
>> David wrote
>> Just in case you are not aware of this Jackson, it may help to know
>> that the boot process and messages can be paused by pressing ctrlS and
>> resumed by ctrlQ
>> 
>> jbyers:
>>
>> thanks David, that helps me look at all msgs up to some point
>> shy of the failure point

I forgot to say too that when you are paused, you can page backward
and forward with shiftPageUp and shiftPageDown. Another one of those
things you are supposed to "Just Know".

But probably this is irrelevant now, because it does look like an X
problem, not that I have been paying close attention. I recommend
Craigs suggestions to at least get you to a login prompt where it will
be easier to troubleshoot X. To summarise:

do this in grub.conf:

# hiddenmenu
timeout  10

> B. Press a key at the grub prompt and highlight the kernel with the
> arrow keys and press the letter 'e', move down to the kernel line and
> press the letter 'e'. Add a space and put in the number "3" to tell it
> to boot to runlevel 3

or in grub.conf you can add the parameter "3" to the kernel line. If
there is a 5 there then change it to a 3. Because runlevel 5 tries to
start X at boot time, whereas runlevel 3 does not use X, instead it
boots to a text console.

> This still won't solve your X problems.
> That would probably need you to switch to the console again as above and
> again, login as root
> init 3
> yum install system-config-display
> system-config-display --reconfig
>
> and see if you can get a working X display
>
> You can test it by typing 'startx'
>
> Once you get X running, you can type 'init 5' or just reboot

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window background pix?

[Gene Heskett]

Greetings;

One of the things I've been meaning to ask about that worked well in kde-3.5+ 
was the ability to use any photograph in a recognizable format as a screen 
background.

But since F10 and kde-4.x.x, I seem to be stuck with the default solar flare 
or whatever its called as background on all windows.

Is that now changeable, if so how?

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Re: F10 - pulseaudio not running

[Kevin Kofler]

Mike Fleetwood wrote:
> To me Fedora 10 appears to set the permissions of the ALSA sound
> devices to read-write for root only and none for all other users.

... except your local console user, which gets the permissions using the
POSIX ACL feature.

> crw-rw+ 1 root root 116, 8 2009-04-08 13:16 controlC0
> crw-rw+ 1 root root 116, 7 2009-04-08 20:06 pcmC0D0c
> crw-rw+ 1 root root 116, 6 2009-05-04 07:10 pcmC0D0p
> crw-rw+ 1 root root 116, 5 2009-04-08 13:16 pcmC0D1c
> crw-rw+ 1 root root 116, 4 2009-04-08 13:16 pcmC0D1p
> crw-rw+ 1 root root 116, 3 2009-04-08 13:16 seq
> crw-rw+ 1 root root 116, 2 2009-04-08 13:16 timer

The '+' here means some ACLs are set. Try:
getfacl /dev/snd/*


PulseAudio is only SUID root to allow it to use real-time priority for users
in the pulsert group or with real-time priority allowed through PolicyKit.
It does not use the root privileges to access sound devices, it accesses
them as your regular user.

I think you're barking up the wrong tree.

Kevin Kofler

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Re: Any recommendation for Groupware Software?

[Kevin Kofler]

Khemara Lyn wrote:
> I'm in the middle of choosing a Groupware software. I've been looking at 2
> of them now: OpenGroupware(oGo) and eGroupware.

Have you looked at http://kolab.org/ yet?

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Re: Accessing A Fedora 7 Box FROM The Net

[Kevin Kofler]

ad...@anythinggoes wrote:
> I have a F7 server that has been working perfectly as far as getting
> people out into the net.
> 
> But recently, I have needed the capability to access the server FROM
> the net.

Fedora 7 is no longer supported and no longer gets any updates including
security updates (!), so using it as a server is just asking the next
script kiddie around you to break into your machine. Please upgrade to
Fedora 10 (not Fedora 9 as that is going to stop getting updates less than
2 months from now) NOW.

Fedora is not a "fire and forget" distribution, you MUST upgrade at least
once a year. If that's not OK for you, use CentOS, not Fedora.

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Re: digikam on F10 64bit

[Kevin Kofler]

Chris Rouch wrote:
> I created a new account and successfully ran digikam from there, so it
> is definitely a problem with my config rather than with the s/w
> itself.

You may want to rename (I say "rename" rather than "delete" because it's
always a good idea to keep a backup somewhere) your
~/.kde/share/config/digikamrc, where ~ is your home directory.

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Re: what is "Document Viewer"?

[Kevin Kofler]

brian wrote:
> Thanks, Sam & Georgi. I'm having a little PDF issue: ghostscript is
> complaining but Document Viewer is not. I needed to know that app is for
> debugging info. This is perfect.

Yet another reason why programs should be named with their actual name in
the menus, not some generic name. :-/ This crap really needs to get fixed.

FYI, for next time, the easiest way to figure out what something
like "Document Viewer" actually is is to go to Help / About within the
program.

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Re: window background pix?

[Kevin Kofler]

Gene Heskett wrote:
> One of the things I've been meaning to ask about that worked well in
> kde-3.5+ was the ability to use any photograph in a recognizable format as
> a screen background.
> 
> But since F10 and kde-4.x.x, I seem to be stuck with the default solar
> flare or whatever its called as background on all windows.
> 
> Is that now changeable, if so how?

Right-click on the desktop, Appearance Settings, make your pick.

Though it's one single wallpaper for everything, you can't pick a separate
one per virtual screen, nor per physical monitor if you have multiple ones.

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Re: Accessing A Fedora 7 Box FROM The Net

[Kevin Kofler]

I wrote:
> Fedora 7 is no longer supported and no longer gets any updates including
> security updates (!), so using it as a server is just asking the next
> script kiddie around you to break into your machine. Please upgrade to
> Fedora 10 (not Fedora 9 as that is going to stop getting updates less than
> 2 months from now) NOW.
> 
> Fedora is not a "fire and forget" distribution, you MUST upgrade at least
> once a year. If that's not OK for you, use CentOS, not Fedora.

PS: To all those who have replied in this thread: please DO NOT ANSWER this
sort of questions about unsupported releases (other than with a reply like
mine). You need to pressure people into upgrading, refusing to answer any
questions about the unsupported release is the best way. Answering the
question doesn't actually help the person who asked, you're helping the
script kiddies instead.

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Re: Cron-o-meter (Java application) crashes F10 KDE 4.2.2 sessions.

[Kevin Kofler]

Linuxguy123 wrote:
> It ran fine with KDE 4.2 and 4.2.1.  It now crashes the session with KDE
> 4.2.2.  It looks like something is wrong with repaint.  It seems fine if
> the application is just open, but as soon as you move the application
> window the whole desktop area starts going weird.

If it crashes the whole session, this is most likely a bug in your graphics
driver, not KDE.

Was your graphics driver also updated?

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Re: what is "Document Viewer"?

[brian]

Kevin Kofler wrote:

brian wrote:

Thanks, Sam & Georgi. I'm having a little PDF issue: ghostscript is
complaining but Document Viewer is not. I needed to know that app is for
debugging info. This is perfect.


Yet another reason why programs should be named with their actual name in
the menus, not some generic name. :-/ This crap really needs to get fixed.


Amen to that! I was trying to be polite but, to be honest, this really 
was pretty annoying.



FYI, for next time, the easiest way to figure out what something
like "Document Viewer" actually is is to go to Help / About within the
program.


I just looked (again!) and realise that I'd completely missed the 
"evince" part. What the heck is an "evince", anyway?


(rhetorical question--I'm sure it's something like an ogg)

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Re: window background pix?

[Gene Heskett]

On Tuesday 05 May 2009, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>Gene Heskett wrote:
>> One of the things I've been meaning to ask about that worked well in
>> kde-3.5+ was the ability to use any photograph in a recognizable format as
>> a screen background.
>>
>> But since F10 and kde-4.x.x, I seem to be stuck with the default solar
>> flare or whatever its called as background on all windows.
>>
>> Is that now changeable, if so how?
>
>Right-click on the desktop, Appearance Settings, make your pick.
>
>Though it's one single wallpaper for everything, you can't pick a separate
>one per virtual screen, nor per physical monitor if you have multiple ones.
>
>Kevin Kofler

That sucks big time Kevin, I was used to being able to tell what screen I was 
on by the picture.  Will this ability to do this on a screen by screen basis 
be restored?  If not, it is a considerable step backwards IMNSHO.

Thanks, at least I now have a family pix as background, including my oldest 
daughter taken about 9 weeks before she passed.

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Re: window background pix?

[Kevin Kofler]

Gene Heskett wrote:
> That sucks big time Kevin, I was used to being able to tell what screen I
> was on by the picture.  Will this ability to do this on a screen by screen
> basis be restored?  If not, it is a considerable step backwards IMNSHO.

I don't know, unfortunately I don't know of anybody implementing it upstream
in Plasma at the moment.

> [...] including my oldest daughter taken about 9 weeks before she passed.

That's sad to hear. :-(

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Re: USB tuner and kernel.org

[Mick M.]

> Mick M. wrote:
> > Hello list;
> >   I recently bought an Autumn Wave
> OnAir HDTV USSB tuner.
> Hmmm, a digital TV tuner device.
> 

Yes - our local TV stations and cable have all gone digital.
This is in Seattle.

> > I read the pvrusb2 driver setup information.
> Is that a URL on the web ?
http://www.isely.net/pvrusb2/setup.html


> Did you take care of their advice ?
Yes - all were already selected as modules
> 
> > Under F10 it fails with:
> > 
> > [r...@localhost ~]# tvtime
> 1. you won't want to be root for playing TV.
I am testing this so I stayed as root in the xterm.

> 2. tvtime: High quality video for Linux
> tvtime is a high quality television application for use
> with video capture cards on Linux
> 
> What that means is it is for inserting captures of analog
> video into your vga output (display), it doesn't do dvb
> (digital tv) decoding.
> 
> > [r...@localhost ~]# xawtv
> > no video grabber device available
> Again, /dev/video0 is the analog capture device - your
> device probably doesn't have one.

I downloaded every TV app to try and get this thing to work.

> 
> > [r...@localhost ~]# ls -l /dev/video*
> > ls: cannot access /dev/video*: No such file or
> directory
> Only useful for analog capturing tuner cards/devices.
> 
> For digital, look for:
> $ ls -lR /dev/dv*
> should see adapter folder, demux, dvr, frontend, net0,
> probably.
> 
None of those show up, just dvd drives

> > [r...@localhost ~]# lsmod
> > Module             
>     Size  Used by
> > pvrusb2           
>    138896  0 
> Your device module is loaded.
> Did you do this manually, or add manual entries to make
> this device load ?

It was manual but I cannot duplicate it.
In fact now my box is badly broken - NO MODULES AT ALL get loaded.
I use wireless lan, no module - no internet.

I have the two latest F10 kernels - neither load any modules now.
This happened at first a couple of days ago, I rebooted into the old kernel and 
it came up fine.
Then I used yumex to delete and re-install the latest kernel.
This worked fine.

Now I have somehow killed both kernels - no modules.
I will post a new help for this.
The box I am posting from is different and is on F11-pre.

I was trying to "depmod pvrusb2, and insmod pvrusb2".
I could go to /lib/modules and drill down and find the module.
But it would not load.

I will answer the rest of your questions when it is fixed.
( it was not in either database, and the ID string was correct for the device)

Mick M.



  

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No modules get loaded

[Mick M.]

Hello;
  I have F10, the two latest kernels.
I did a "insmod pvrusb2, and a depmod pvrusb2", under both kernels.

Now I do not have any modulles loaded at boot.
modprobe.conf is empty.

Any ideas?

Mick M.


  

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Re: window background pix?

[Ron Siven]

On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:

> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > That sucks big time Kevin, I was used to being able to tell what screen I
> > was on by the picture.  Will this ability to do this on a screen by
> screen
> > basis be restored?  If not, it is a considerable step backwards IMNSHO.
>
> I don't know, unfortunately I don't know of anybody implementing it
> upstream
> in Plasma at the moment.
>
> > [...] including my oldest daughter taken about 9 weeks before she passed.
>
> That's sad to hear. :-(
>
>Kevin Kofler
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Guys,

Question: What are you using to work with separate monitors?

On my work laptop, I have used xrandr to make a large virtual screen.  With
enough real estate to handle the full resolution of both the laptop monitor
(1400x1050) and a 19" LCD (1280x1024).  Then, I right-clicked on the desktop
on each monitor, went to the Appearance Settings and changed the background
for each monitor.

So, if you don't use xrandr, I'm very curious to hear what you're using
because that was the only solution I found that worked for me.

BTW, My laptop has ATI video.

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Re: what is "Document Viewer"?

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 05/06/2009 09:03 AM, brian wrote:

> 
> I just looked (again!) and realise that I'd completely missed the
> "evince" part. What the heck is an "evince", anyway?
> 
> (rhetorical question--I'm sure it's something like an ogg)

You could have easily looked it up.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/evince

Other than a few well recognized brands like Firefox, generally end
users don't know or care about the application names and only the
functionality that it offers.

Rahul

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Re: F9: http error_log issues

[g]

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:

> 1) Why is there a core dump?  Where can I find the file and how
>  can I determine why httpd is core dumping?

message is that core dump size has been raised, not that there is an
actual core dump.

you will get a core dump when something goes wrong and can not continue.
see 'man core'.

run 'sudo find / -name core -print|sort>00-core.0001' to save to a file
for viewing to see if you have any core dumps.

a file will have a name of 'core' and may be rather large. by using
'ls -l /path/to/dump/core' and 'file /path/to/dump/core'  will tell you
if it is a core dump

disregard names found in;
 /dev/core
 /lib/modules/*
 /proc/sys/net/core
 /usr/java/jdk*


> 2) Is it normal for httpd to be running as unconfined_u ?

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/selinux-user-guide/f10/en-US/sect-Security-Enhanced_Linux-Targeted_Policy-Unconfined_Processes.html

google 'unconfined_u' for more.

> 3) Why is avahi causing a D-BUS error?

good question. from /var/log try;

 sudo grep -i d-bus *|less
 sudo grep -i avahi *|less

and look for messages with times corresponding to when
'/var/log/httpd/error_log' shows errors.

for help with avahi, you can find what is in doc and man with;

'locate avahi|grep man' and 'locate avahi|grep doc'

hth.

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Re: what is "Document Viewer"?

[Thierry]

Rahul Sundaram a écrit :

> generally end users don't know or care about the application names and only 
> the
> functionality that it offers.
> 

15 years of professional experience have taught me one thing, the above
statement is not true. End users do actually care about the tools they
are using and their names.

Kevin has a fair point that should not be dismissed.

my .02 cents

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Re: Accessing A Fedora 7 Box FROM The Net

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 05:20:26 +0200,
  Kevin Kofler  wrote:
> 
> PS: To all those who have replied in this thread: please DO NOT ANSWER this
> sort of questions about unsupported releases (other than with a reply like
> mine). You need to pressure people into upgrading, refusing to answer any
> questions about the unsupported release is the best way. Answering the
> question doesn't actually help the person who asked, you're helping the
> script kiddies instead.

I disagree. He may have a legitimate reason for not upgrading (such as current
kernels not working with his hardware). And it may be that some software
on the machine is not stock F7, but in fact more recent versions of critical
software. At this point we don't know. Certainly, strongly suggesting an
upgrade is reasonable, but trying to use unrelated problems as leverage
seems over the line to me.

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