Reminder: Fedora Board IRC meeting 1800 UTC 2009-05-05

2009-05-27 Thread Paul W. Frields
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Re: Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting

2009-05-27 Thread Toshio Kuratomi

On 05/26/2009 10:27 PM, Iain Arnell wrote:

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Tim Lauridsen
tim.laurid...@googlemail.com  wrote:


soft-deps (Suggests/Recommends) is really hard to handle at the depsolver
level. A depsolver need to now the hard ones, not stuff like 'it would look
very nice to have pink bracelet to my little pony'. It is hard to make good
decisions based on that, a asking the user every time is not a good solution
IMO. You will need to take a popquiz every time you what to install a
package.
I can see that the information can be useful at a high level gui or in some
kind of appstore. People there have bought 'foo' have also bought 'bar'. But
at the lowlevel like rpm/yum is not very useful, because we don't have the
needed infomation to make a good decision.


I wouldn't think it's that hard to implement.  When installing a new
package, simply treat Suggests as Requires; when removing a package
just ignore Suggests completely.  Only upgrading adds a little
complexity - if new version Suggests something that the old version
doesn't, treat it as Requires (so that I get new optional pony
accessories automatically), otherwise ignore it (so that I can throw
away that optional pink bracelet and not have it come back every time
I update).

Note that that would be horrible behaviour for also keeping a minimal 
packageset.


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Re: Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting

2009-05-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 23:00 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
 On 05/26/2009 10:27 PM, Iain Arnell wrote:
  On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Tim Lauridsen
  tim.laurid...@googlemail.com  wrote:
 
  soft-deps (Suggests/Recommends) is really hard to handle at the depsolver
  level. A depsolver need to now the hard ones, not stuff like 'it would look
  very nice to have pink bracelet to my little pony'. It is hard to make good
  decisions based on that, a asking the user every time is not a good 
  solution
  IMO. You will need to take a popquiz every time you what to install a
  package.
  I can see that the information can be useful at a high level gui or in some
  kind of appstore. People there have bought 'foo' have also bought 'bar'. 
  But
  at the lowlevel like rpm/yum is not very useful, because we don't have the
  needed infomation to make a good decision.
 
  I wouldn't think it's that hard to implement.  When installing a new
  package, simply treat Suggests as Requires; when removing a package
  just ignore Suggests completely.  Only upgrading adds a little
  complexity - if new version Suggests something that the old version
  doesn't, treat it as Requires (so that I get new optional pony
  accessories automatically), otherwise ignore it (so that I can throw
  away that optional pink bracelet and not have it come back every time
  I update).
 
 Note that that would be horrible behaviour for also keeping a minimal 
 packageset.

Iain's suggestion is how it is handled in Mandriva. There is a parameter
for urpmi (yum equivalent) - --no-suggests - which inverts the behaviour
(suggested packages are not considered dependencies and not installed),
and this can be set permanently in urpmi's global config file, for those
who prefer to keep minimal package sets.

this has worked well for two or three releases now, I haven't seen any
complaints about it.

when urpmi lists the packages that will be installed as dependencies in
a transaction, those that are suggests rather than hard requires are
tagged as such, so you can notice if a transaction is introducing a
large number of suggested deps you may not necessarily want, and switch
to --no-suggests.

I believe Debian handles things in a similar way, although it has a more
complex setup (there are also Recommends, and Enhances, which is sort of
Suggests pointing in the other direction. I'm not sure how those are
used.)
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Re: Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting

2009-05-27 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 07:10:42AM +0200, Tim Lauridsen wrote:
 soft-deps (Suggests/Recommends) is really hard to handle at the  
 depsolver level. A depsolver need to now the hard ones, not stuff like  
 'it would look very nice to have pink bracelet to my little pony'. It is  
 hard to make good decisions based on that, a asking the user every time  
 is not a good solution IMO. You will need to take a popquiz every time  
 you what to install a package.
 I can see that the information can be useful at a high level gui or in  
 some kind of appstore. People there have bought 'foo' have also bought  
 'bar'. But at the lowlevel like rpm/yum is not very useful, because we  
 don't have the needed infomation to make a good decision.

There's no real difficulty here.  The depsolver ignores 'suggests' for
resolving dependencies.  The UI needs to change to allow these to be
selected, or in the case of command line tools like yum, to print them
out at the end.  You may also be interested in packages A, B and C.

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Re: Why not to create Fedora-us and Fedora-non-us branches?

2009-05-27 Thread Matej Cepl
Tom Lane, Tue, 26 May 2009 19:00:19 -0400:
 Unless everyone working on Fedora *moves* to the Isle of Man (and
 obtains citizenship there), I don't think this sort of maneuver keeps us
 out of trouble anyway.  Realistically we all have to worry about the
 laws of wherever we live.  So as long as a significant fraction of
 Fedora contributors are in $country, $country laws will matter for
 Fedora.  (Repeat above statement for a rather long list of $country.)

Of course, I was joking and I think that clicking on one link on The Site 
Which I Rather Won't Call By Its Name and confirming that I want to 
install new repository is not that big deal.

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Re: How to create header.info file

2009-05-27 Thread Pavel Lisy
Seth Vidal píše v Út 26. 05. 2009 v 09:51 -0400:
 
 On Tue, 26 May 2009, Pavel Lisy wrote:
 
  Hello
 
  I've made my repository for CentOS (3/4/5) with createrepo version
  0.4.9.
 
  It makes these files
 
  repodata/filelists.xml.gz
  repodata/other.xml.gz
  repodata/primary.xml.gz
  repodata/repomd.xml
 
  Yum is working fine but on
 
  RHEL 4 I've got this error from up2date
 
  An HTTP error occurred:
  URL:
  http://ftp-hk.tmapy.cz/tmapy-twist/centos/4/os/i386/headers/header.info
  Status Code: 404
  Error Message: Not Found
 
  How can I create this file and other files in headers directory?
  There is nothing in createrepo docs about these files.
 
 
 1. this is not a fedora-devel question.
I know but I am not member of centos list

 2. You can ask on the centos lists about this
 
 but a short answer though is - look up about yum-arch
That's it. 

Now I see I used to use it but it was longtime ago and I forgot everything. 

Thank you very much, I wasn't able find this information other way (neither by 
Google). 

Pavel

 I will not respond to any other questions  about the above on this list.
 
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Re: Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting

2009-05-27 Thread José Matos
On Wednesday 27 May 2009 07:00:07 Toshio Kuratomi wrote:

 Note that that would be horrible behaviour for also keeping a minimal
 packageset.

It would be easy to add configuration options with the default being on. For 
keeping a minimum package set this configuration could be turned off.

I don't like the proliferation of configuration options but this example seems 
to me that it deserves an exception to this rule.

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Re: Removing %clean

2009-05-27 Thread Benny Amorsen
Till Maas opensou...@till.name writes:

 Tom spot Callaway wrote:
  mkdir -p `dirname $RPM_BUILD_ROOT`\
  mkdir $RPM_BUILD_ROOT\

 It prevents a race condition in case that $(dirname $RPM_BUILD_ROOT) 
 already 
 exists or if all directories in the path to this directory are only writable 
 by trustworthy users. In the default configuration, this was the /var/tmp 
 directory, where every user could create a directory, make it writable for 
 others and sneak content into the final rpm.

The two mkdirs are in reverse order though. Is that intentional?


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Re: dependency errors while upgrading from F10 to Rawhide (F11)

2009-05-27 Thread Thomas Moschny
2009/5/26 Uwe Kiewel m...@kiewel-online.ch:
 [r...@alberta ~]# yum --enablerepo=rawhide --disablerepo=fedora update
 Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, refresh-packagekit
 Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
 YumRepo Error: All mirror URLs are not using ftp, http[s] or file.
  Eg. /metalink/
 removing mirrorlist with no valid mirrors:
 //var/cache/yum/updates/mirrorlist.txt


 Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: updates
 [r...@alberta ~]#

Same here. Updating fedora-release first (the normal procedure) did
not work, showing the very same error. See also bz 494054.

So from f10+updates (downgraded fedora-relase back to the f10 version), I used:
% yum --enablerepo=rawhide upgrade yum fedora-release
and afterwards simply
% yum upgrade
without manually changing any of the repos files.

Maybe that two-step procedure is no longer necessary when yum 3.2.23
hits f10updates. The tickets says it is now in updates-testing.

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Re: Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting

2009-05-27 Thread Seth Vidal



On Wed, 27 May 2009, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:


On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 07:10:42AM +0200, Tim Lauridsen wrote:

soft-deps (Suggests/Recommends) is really hard to handle at the
depsolver level. A depsolver need to now the hard ones, not stuff like
'it would look very nice to have pink bracelet to my little pony'. It is
hard to make good decisions based on that, a asking the user every time
is not a good solution IMO. You will need to take a popquiz every time
you what to install a package.
I can see that the information can be useful at a high level gui or in
some kind of appstore. People there have bought 'foo' have also bought
'bar'. But at the lowlevel like rpm/yum is not very useful, because we
don't have the needed infomation to make a good decision.


There's no real difficulty here.  The depsolver ignores 'suggests' for
resolving dependencies.  The UI needs to change to allow these to be
selected, or in the case of command line tools like yum, to print them
out at the end.  You may also be interested in packages A, B and C.



I think the number of disputing perspectives in this thread ALONE on how 
suggests would be handles proves that it is not obvious on its face how 
suggests should be handled.


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Packaging Survey - May 2009

2009-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi

I did a quick survey from Fedora on what software Fedora users are using
that is not available in the repo. Here are the results. If you find
anything interesting, feel free to pick it up.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging_Survey_May_2009

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Re: Packaging Survey - May 2009

2009-05-27 Thread Nikolay Vladimirov
2009/5/27 Rahul Sundaram :
 Hi

 I did a quick survey from Fedora on what software Fedora users are using
 that is not available in the repo. Here are the results. If you find
 anything interesting, feel free to pick it up.

 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging_Survey_May_2009

 Rahul


Hi

I looked at Unknown Horizons and it has Creative Commons Sampling Plus
1.0 license[1] on some[2] of the sounds.
I noted this in the table also added the game to the forbidden games
list until upstream can replace these sounds.

[1] http://www.unknown-horizons.org/site/index.php?page=licence
[2] 
http://trac.unknown-horizons.org/browser/trunk/content/audio/sounds/SOUND_LICENSE?rev=1961
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Re: Packaging Survey - May 2009

2009-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2009 06:08 PM, Nikolay Vladimirov wrote:

 
 I looked at Unknown Horizons and it has Creative Commons Sampling Plus
 1.0 license[1] on some[2] of the sounds.
 I noted this in the table also added the game to the forbidden games
 list until upstream can replace these sounds.
 
 [1] http://www.unknown-horizons.org/site/index.php?page=licence
 [2] 
 http://trac.unknown-horizons.org/browser/trunk/content/audio/sounds/SOUND_LICENSE?rev=1961

Thanks for looking into this. This is a small number. We have some folks
interested in sound and can provide replacements. CC'ing.

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Re: Packaging Survey - May 2009

2009-05-27 Thread José Matos
On Wednesday 27 May 2009 12:31:56 Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 Hi

 I did a quick survey from Fedora on what software Fedora users are using
 that is not available in the repo. Here are the results. If you find
 anything interesting, feel free to pick it up.

 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging_Survey_May_2009

root is being reviewed (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=451744)

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Re: Packaging Survey - May 2009

2009-05-27 Thread Seth Vidal



On Wed, 27 May 2009, José Matos wrote:


On Wednesday 27 May 2009 12:31:56 Rahul Sundaram wrote:

Hi

I did a quick survey from Fedora on what software Fedora users are using
that is not available in the repo. Here are the results. If you find
anything interesting, feel free to pick it up.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging_Survey_May_2009


root is being reviewed (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=451744)


I have no problem with root being packaged, it used to be no small task to 
package root so if it is on its way I think that's great.


 I just want to relate my first exposure to 'root'. I was a sysadmin in the
physics dept at duke university. I was told one of the workstations in the
High Energy Physics dept was running slowly and asked if I could
check it out.

I login and discover a process running named 'rootd'. I suspend my desire 
to freak out a bit and eventually trace it back to a user's homedir where 
they've unzipped and built a local copy of cern's root. At this point I 
vow a silent oath to get even with whomever named the software 'root' and 
go about my day.


That's my story. 
:)


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Re: rawhide report: 20090523 changes

2009-05-27 Thread Till Maas
On Tue May 26 2009, Matthias Clasen wrote:
 On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 19:12 +0200, Till Maas wrote:

  It is already done on the Fedorapeople server:
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/FedoraPeopleConfig#polyinst
 antiated_tempdirs

 Hey, nice.

 That should really be an F12 feature.

Here is a draft feature page for this:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Polyinstantiated_Temporary_Directories

Regards
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Re: Fedora and the moblin2 fork

2009-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2009 07:13 PM, Adam Miller wrote:
 If you package and maintain all of those  and wrote the kickstart
 for the spin, is there really anything else for the rest of us to do?

These packages are just hacks put up together to get a live cd up and
running quickly. Interested people should go through them, submit them
for review, push changes upstream etc.

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Re: Packaging Survey - May 2009

2009-05-27 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 07:47:30PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 On 05/27/2009 07:41 PM, Jerry James wrote:
 
  
  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/cmucl
  
  Perhaps it is because CMUCL is available on 32-bit systems only, so
  somebody with a 64-bit system noticed that it was missing.
 
 Very likely. This is all direct feedback from fedora-list and
 fedoraforum.org primarily. So I guess the user was using 64-bit. I will
 ask him. Why isn't CMUCL available for 64-bit systems?

Because no one managed to write a code generator for x86-64
and PPC yet:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=185085

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The future of firestarter

2009-05-27 Thread Adam Miller
I recently picked up the firestarter package because it was orphaned
and I know a few people who still use it. There were only a couple of
small bugs opened against it so I figured I would hack at them as soon
as I was able. But this morning there was a bug filed against it to
port it to PolicyKit and I've run into two problems. 1) I know very
little about PolicyKit other than a general overview of the purpose it
serves and 2) I don't think it would really be worth doing all that
work for a package that hasn't had any upstream activity in over 4
years. So my question is this, should I orphan this package such that
someone else who feels the efforts wouldn't be wasted may take the
time to perform the work or should I just retire the package?

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Re: The future of firestarter

2009-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2009 07:51 PM, Adam Miller wrote:
 I recently picked up the firestarter package because it was orphaned
 and I know a few people who still use it. There were only a couple of
 small bugs opened against it so I figured I would hack at them as soon
 as I was able. But this morning there was a bug filed against it to
 port it to PolicyKit and I've run into two problems. 1) I know very
 little about PolicyKit other than a general overview of the purpose it
 serves and 2) I don't think it would really be worth doing all that
 work for a package that hasn't had any upstream activity in over 4
 years. So my question is this, should I orphan this package such that
 someone else who feels the efforts wouldn't be wasted may take the
 time to perform the work or should I just retire the package?

If upstream is dead and you are not going to do the work, just close the
bug as WONTFIX. Yes, I filed the RFE in the first place but I wasn't
aware that upstream is dead. So don't let that scare you from continuing
to be the maintainer of it. Of course, if anyone is willing to do the
work, that would be nice but probably not worth the effort if it is
going to be a big patch.

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Re: Packaging Survey - May 2009

2009-05-27 Thread Jerry James
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote:
 Because no one managed to write a code generator for x86-64
 and PPC yet:

 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=185085

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Re: The future of firestarter

2009-05-27 Thread Adam Miller
 If upstream is dead and you are not going to do the work, just close the
 bug as WONTFIX. Yes, I filed the RFE in the first place but I wasn't
 aware that upstream is dead. So don't let that scare you from continuing
 to be the maintainer of it. Of course, if anyone is willing to do the
 work, that would be nice but probably not worth the effort if it is
 going to be a big patch.

 Rahul


I would honestly rather retire the package than do a WONTFIX, if the
project as a whole is going the direction of PolicyKit and upstream is
dead then I don't want to keep old and busted cruft around the
repositories as Fedora continues to look towards the future.

-Adam



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Orphaning some packages (gdhcpd, wxdfast, beagle)

2009-05-27 Thread drago01
Hi,

I am looking for new maintainers for those packages:

gdhcpd:
I do not really use it, upstream has released a new version a while
ago but the fedora package still is at the old version.
Bugs: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/bugs/gdhcpd

wxdfast:
Upstream is pretty much dead (no activity for years).
Bugs: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/bugs/wxdfast

beagle:
Package needs a lot of work and I don't really have time for it
(upstream is also quite busy so there is little activity there too).
Bugs: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/bugs/beagle

If someone wants to take (one of) them please reply to this mail.

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Re: Online Docs group was: I must be doing something seriously wrong...

2009-05-27 Thread Jesse Keating
On Wed, 2009-05-27 at 14:16 +0200, Nils Philippsen wrote:
 Sorry for chiming in late, but I'm just catching up with email after
 being on vacation. This particular group was my brain-fart, I just
 wanted to have a way to easily include/exclude online help documentation
 (mostly to make it easy for people doing live media to leave it out).
 Feel free to rename if you have a more suitable idea, though. If there
 is another means to achieve the same purpose, I'm all ears as well.

The existence of the group is fine, and it should probably grow.  The
problem is the name.  Online at least here in the states means on the
internet, so Online Docs would mean documents that your read via the
Internet.  Offline Docs is almost more correct but still a bit
awkward.  Anyway, I don't really have good suggestions.

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Compose started at Wed May 27 06:15:04 UTC 2009

Updated Packages:

anaconda-11.5.0.56-1.fc11
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* Tue May 26 2009 Chris Lumens clum...@redhat.com - 11.5.0.55-1
- Fix blank network device descriptions in the loader. (#501757) (notting)
- Make sure the right _isMigratable gets used for Ext3FS (#501585). (clumens)

* Tue May 26 2009 Chris Lumens clum...@redhat.com - 11.5.0.56-1
- Ensure matching rootfs type to live type with autopart (#501876) (katzj)


eggdrop-1.6.19-4.fc11
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* Tue May 26 2009 Robert Scheck rob...@fedoraproject.org 1.6.19-4
- Added upstream ctcpfix to solve CVE-2009-1789 (#502650)


kernel-2.6.29.4-162.fc11

* Mon May 25 2009 Kyle McMartin k...@redhat.com 2.6.29.3-160
- kvm fixes destined for 2.6.30, rhbz#492838:
   kvm-Fix-PDPTR-reloading-on-CR4-writes.patch
   kvm-Make-paravirt-tlb-flush-also-reload-the-PAE-PDP.patch

* Mon May 25 2009 Kyle McMartin k...@redhat.com 2.6.29.4-161
- Linux 2.6.29.4
- dropped patches:
  linux-2.6-i2c-fix-bit-algorithm-timeout.patch
  linux-2.6-ftdi-oops.patch
  linux-2.6-btrfs-fix-page-mkwrite.patch
- rebased patches:
  linux-2.6-btrfs-unstable-update.patch, page_mkwrite fixes.

* Mon May 25 2009 Kyle McMartin k...@redhat.com 2.6.29.4-162
- keys-Handle-there-being-no-fallback-destination-key.patch:
  fix oops at boot with autofs/krb/cifs rhbz#501588.

* Fri May 22 2009 John W. Linville linvi...@redhat.com - 2.6.29.3-158
- back-port iwl3945: use cancel_delayed_work_sync to cancel rfkill_poll
- modify changelog entry from Apr 13 2009 to reference correct patch

* Fri May 22 2009 Kyle McMartin k...@redhat.com 2.6.29.3-159
- drm-copyback-ioctl-data-to-userspace-regardless-of-retcode.patch:
  Fix possible hang in drmWaitVblank.
   upstream 9b6fe313bfce27d4a261257da70196be0ac2bef5.

* Thu May 21 2009 Kyle McMartin k...@redhat.com - 2.6.29.3-157
- mac80211-don-t-drop-nullfunc-frames-during-software.patch:
   upstream a9a6d05f97e6acbdeafc595e269855829751.


mdadm-3.0-0.devel3.7.fc11
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* Tue May 19 2009 Doug Ledford dledf...@redhat.com - 3.0-0.devel3.7
- Only check raid devices on weekly scrubbing, don't attempt to repair them


mkinitrd-6.0.86-1.fc11
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* Thu May 21 2009 Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com - 6.0.86-1
- Reorder font initialization to properly handle KMS


openoffice.org-3.1.0-11.3.fc11
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* Mon May 25 2009 Caolán McNamara caol...@redhat.com - 1:3.1.0-11.3
- add in the ia64 and arm fixes for the secondary arch people
- Resolves(partially): rhbz#495901 No default font-width for wmf export
- ooo#101567 add Maithili locale data (some dodgy negative value and
  listseperator though)
- Resolves: rhbz#499474 soffice and .recently-used.xbel
- Resolves: ooo#102194 crash export on .doc with unused style in .toc


policycoreutils-2.0.62-12.6.fc11

* Fri May 22 2009 Dan Walsh dwa...@redhat.com 2.0.62-12.6
- Add sandbox script

* Tue May 12 2009 Dan Walsh dwa...@redhat.com 2.0.62-12.4
- Fix portspage and generation of init_script_file in templates

* Tue May 12 2009 Dan Walsh dwa...@redhat.com 2.0.62-12.5
- More portspage fixes


rhpl-0.221-1

* Tue May 26 2009 Jeremy Katz ka...@redhat.com 0.222-1
- Fix leaking fd for loadkeys with a big hammer (#501368)
- Fix Russian keyboard (#492544)


Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 8









Broken deps for ppc64
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Re: export policy, was Re: Package Maintainers Flags policy

2009-05-27 Thread Paul Wouters

On Tue, 26 May 2009, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:


| On 05/26/2009 10:09 AM, Paul Wouters wrote:
|  See above. Note that the Wassenaar Agreement excludes software that is
|  in the public domain, eg free/open source software.
|
| This is not correct. Public Domain has a very specific legal meaning,
| and 99% of FOSS does _not_ meet it. Public Domain is when the copyright
| holder has explicitly abandoned his/her/its copyright on the work and
| placed it into the Public Domain. (Note: In some countries, such as
| Germany, this is impossible)

Tom is right about the meaning of public domain in US law.  This is
not the meaning in the Wassenaar Agreement.


That's right, in the Wassenaar context it is (http://jya.com/wass-au.htm):

in the public domain (GTN NTN GSN), as it applies herein, means
technology or software which has been made available without
restrictions upon its further dissemination (copyright restrictions do
not remove technology or software from being in the public
domain)

Note that the US has various restrictions on top of the Wassenaar
Agreement, but those do not apply to me (as upstream)

Paul

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Re: The future of firestarter

2009-05-27 Thread Cry
Adam Miller maxamillion at gmail.com writes:

 
  If upstream is dead and you are not going to do the work, just close the
  bug as WONTFIX. Yes, I filed the RFE in the first place but I wasn't
  aware that upstream is dead. So don't let that scare you from continuing

 dead then I don't want to keep old and busted cruft around the
 repositories as Fedora continues to look towards the future.
 
 -Adam

Any chance of filing a set of RFEs against system-config-firewall for the
features that firestarter has that system-config-firewall is still missing?




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Re: Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting

2009-05-27 Thread Matthew Woehlke

José Matos wrote:

On Wednesday 27 May 2009 17:23:33 Adam Williamson wrote:

Well, yeah, I actually noted in my email that MDV's tool does exactly
that (well, it doesn't show them as separate sets, it shows them in one
long list with (suggests) to note the suggested ones. But doing it in
sets would, I imagine, be trivial).


...and consistent with how yum currently works.


Wishful thinking. :-)


Why?

It is easy to come with an example where those sets overlap, i.e. there is one 
package that only shows as (suggests) in more than one package.


Sure. Why does that matter?


So I am not sure if it is worth the trouble to show all the separate sets.


How else are you going to display things? Specifically how are you going 
to display things that isn't /broken/? We have two groups right now, 
'updating' and 'installing for dependencies'. Putting packages pulled in 
(only; directly or indirectly) by suggests: into either of those is 
clearly wrong.


I don't see why this is hard. I do 'yum update'. It wants (with 
suggests: feature) to install packages for any combination of three reasons:


- package is installed and is being updated
- package is required by some package in transaction
- package is suggested by some package in transaction

(Without suggests: feature you only have first two.)

Any package may belong to all three states, true. However it is placed 
in the group with the strongest reason for it being in the 
transaction. (The above are listed from strongest to weakest.)


If it's installed already, set required flag and update flag. If it 
was required by something, set required flag iff what required it has 
required flag. Packages with update go in 'updating' group, with 
required but not update in 'installing for dependencies', everything 
else in 'installing for suggestions'.


How hard is that, really?

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Re: Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting

2009-05-27 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 05/27/2009 12:47 PM, Matthew Woehlke wrote:
 How hard is that, really?

Whenever someone says this on the -devel list, they are automatically
required to write the patch.

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Re: I must be doing something seriously wrong...

2009-05-27 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Samstag, den 23.05.2009, 09:52 -0400 schrieb Josh Boyer:
 On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 10:35:58PM +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:
 
 Also I've got a notion that FESCo recently approves more and more
 proposals without asking the community for opinions first and even in
 opposition to the community.
 
 I can't recall that being the case.  There certainly may have been some
 proposals that were opened during the week that were discussed on that Friday,
 but we aren't creating secret proposals and voting on them.  All of them come
 directly from contributors (usually via fedora-devel discussions) and are
 logged in the open fesco trac instance for the meetings.

When the flags proposal was announced to fedora-devel, so so a public
decision-making could take place *before* making a policy?
The proposal was not announced, it's ratification nether and the policy
was active for months without anybody getting informed. This is what I'd
call a secret.

 
   3. If someone really needs docs, he will realize this himself,
  because he is missing knowledge. For flags he doesn't. How is a
  deluge user supposed the realize the lack of a function?
  
  Deluge is clearly spelled out in the guideline as not needing flags for
  functionality.  Is that statement incorrect?
 
 Please note the difference between a function and functionality. Of
 course the missing flags do not impact the basic function of deluge
 which is sharing files, but there is certain functionality missing.
 People can no longer see the location of their peers on a quick glance
 and have to read instead. 
 
 
 I don't find that concerning.  Maybe it will help literacy.

Hopefully, but the original question is still unanswered then: How is a
deluge user supposed the realize the lack of single a function?

 josh

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Re: I must be doing something seriously wrong...

2009-05-27 Thread Jochen Schmitt

Christoph Wickert schrieb:

When the flags proposal was announced to fedora-devel, so so a public
decision-making could take place *before* making a policy?
The proposal was not announced, it's ratification nether and the policy
was active for months without anybody getting informed. This is what I'd
call a secret.

  
Even the title of thei policy was a bad chosen, because you may thought, 
the the

usage of compiler flags may be the topic of this policy.

Hopefully, but the original question is still unanswered then: How is a
deluge user supposed the realize the lack of single a function?

  
My opinion is to drop the flag policy entirely, so the flags should be 
integrated

into the application as planed by the upstream.

Best Regards:

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Re: Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting

2009-05-27 Thread Bill Nottingham
Kevin Kofler (kevin.kof...@chello.at) said: 
  I think the number of disputing perspectives in this thread ALONE on how
  suggests would be handles proves that it is not obvious on its face how
  suggests should be handled.
 
 Well, people are proposing 2 behaviors: 1. treat as hard dependencies by
 default or 2. ignore by default. Why not have both?

No, there are also the ask the user always proponents.
Of course... they're wrong. :)

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Re: Packaging Survey - May 2009

2009-05-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2009-05-27 at 17:01 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 Hi
 
 I did a quick survey from Fedora on what software Fedora users are using
 that is not available in the repo. Here are the results. If you find
 anything interesting, feel free to pick it up.
 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging_Survey_May_2009

as noted on the survey, I intend to package sk1 once things get a little
less crazy around the f11 release :). I already maintain it for MDV, and
it'd be fairly trivial to convert the spec.
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Re: Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting

2009-05-27 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 05/27/2009 03:07 PM, Seth Vidal wrote:
 but I'm sure we'll muddle through - provided this is included in
 upstream rpm.

I think the key here is that we're waiting to deal with this particular
dilemma when upstream rpm has this functionality set.

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Re: Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting

2009-05-27 Thread Seth Vidal



On Wed, 27 May 2009, Tom \spot\ Callaway wrote:


On 05/27/2009 03:07 PM, Seth Vidal wrote:

but I'm sure we'll muddle through - provided this is included in
upstream rpm.


I think the key here is that we're waiting to deal with this particular
dilemma when upstream rpm has this functionality set.



and the last time I asked - the current patches for this feature for rpm 
were from suse's rpm and they were not liked, at all, by other rpm.org 
devs.


-sv

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Re: I must be doing something seriously wrong...

2009-05-27 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Mittwoch, den 27.05.2009, 19:20 +0200 schrieb Jochen Schmitt:
 Christoph Wickert schrieb:
  When the flags proposal was announced to fedora-devel, so so a public
  decision-making could take place *before* making a policy?
  The proposal was not announced, it's ratification nether and the policy
  was active for months without anybody getting informed. This is what I'd
  call a secret.
 

 Even the title of thei policy was a bad chosen, because you may thought, 
 the the
 usage of compiler flags may be the topic of this policy.
  Hopefully, but the original question is still unanswered then: How is a
  deluge user supposed the realize the lack of single a function?
 

 My opinion is to drop the flag policy entirely, so the flags should be 
 integrated
 into the application as planed by the upstream.

Let's not start this discussion again. ;) I'm glad FESCo did the right
thing by withdrawing the policy (at least for now).

 Best Regards:
 
 Jochen Schmitt

Regards,
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Re: Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting

2009-05-27 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Matthew Woehlke mw_tr...@users.sourceforge.net said:
 ...so long as 'yum update' would tell me:
 
 updating
  ...
 installing for dependencies
  ...
 installing for suggestions
  ...
 
 :-)
 
 (Which I suppose it would have to, because I'm not thinking of another 
 way to do it that wouldn't be wrong.)

Don't forget:

installing for dependencies for suggestions
 ...
installing for suggestions for dependencies for suggestions
 ...
etc

:-)

(yes it is meant as a joke, but it is a serious point that dependencies
for suggestions should be kept separate from normal dependencies)
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Re: Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting

2009-05-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2009-05-27 at 19:11 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
 Seth Vidal wrote:
  I think the number of disputing perspectives in this thread ALONE on how
  suggests would be handles proves that it is not obvious on its face how
  suggests should be handled.
 
 Well, people are proposing 2 behaviors: 1. treat as hard dependencies by
 default or 2. ignore by default. Why not have both? In fact that's what
 Debian is doing: Recommends is 1., Suggests is 2., and of course the
 default can be changed (you can choose to drag everything in or to ignore
 even Recommends). So why don't we do the same in RPM and Yum?

that sounds reasonable to me. honestly, I'd see any one of the three
options as an improvement on the current situation, we shouldn't let
uncertainty over which to choose hold us back from making any progress
at all.
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Re: I must be doing something seriously wrong...

2009-05-27 Thread Jochen Schmitt

Christoph Wickert schrieb:

Let's not start this discussion again. ;) I'm glad FESCo did the right
thing by withdrawing the policy (at least for now).
  

You know, that the flag policy was revert on the last FESCo meeting to
take futher examination about it.

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Re: Why not to create Fedora-us and Fedora-non-us branches?

2009-05-27 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Bill Nottingham wrote:

 Peter Lemenkov (lemen...@gmail.com) said:  ... what exactly are you trying
 to accomplish?

 Make it legal to ship MP3 code? Sorry, those are patented in Europe as
 well.



 Patents are *currently* illegal in Europe, (though they may be granted).
 The patents offices being self-funding and all that.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_patents_under_the_European_Patent_Convention
 Article 52

Codec patents are generally not 'software patents' in the common
patent-speak meaning of the words.

A typical (well written) codec patent will make little or no mention
of computer software. Instead they speak of specific useful
transformations of information in mechanical terms as well as machine
embodiments. This puts them largely outside of the domain of what is
normally discussed in the content of software patents (which, have
recently been written abstractly without any real reference to any
machine or mechanical process).

The bulk of codec patent holders are European companies (I.e.
Fraunhofer, Nokia, etc).  The collection of royalties for codecs is a
multi-billion dollar a year industry.  There are many well funded
companies spending considerable amounts of money licensing codecs,
even on products which they only intend to market in Europe.  On that
basis, I think it's safe to conclude that there is more to the
situation than you are suggesting.

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Re: The future of firestarter

2009-05-27 Thread Adam Miller
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Cry cry_regar...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Any chance of filing a set of RFEs against system-config-firewall for the
 features that firestarter has that system-config-firewall is still missing?


I like that idea, I've retired firestarter and will begin to file RFEs
once I outline some features as well as pull the git repo and help
with the development.

-Adam


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Re: Why not to create Fedora-us and Fedora-non-us branches?

2009-05-27 Thread Jesse Keating
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 00:17 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
 Gregory Maxwell wrote:
  Codec patents are generally not 'software patents' in the common
  patent-speak meaning of the words.
 
 But they most likely cannot be enforced against pure software. However, in
 some European countries (e.g. Germany), you can get in trouble for shipping
 things like hardware MP3 players without a license (even if the MP3 codec
 is implemented in software), some devices got confiscated at CeBit.
 
 Kevin Kofler
 

Which leads to some fuzzyness, like what about a computer vendor selling
PCs with Fedora preloaded?  Does that constitute a hardware device?

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Re: Why not to create Fedora-us and Fedora-non-us branches?

2009-05-27 Thread Björn Persson
Gregory Maxwell wrote:
 On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote:
  Patents are *currently* illegal in Europe, (though they may be granted).
  The patents offices being self-funding and all that.

 Codec patents are generally not 'software patents' in the common
 patent-speak meaning of the words.

Not if you ask the patent lawyers, no.

 The bulk of codec patent holders are European companies (I.e.
 Fraunhofer, Nokia, etc).  The collection of royalties for codecs is a
 multi-billion dollar a year industry.  There are many well funded
 companies spending considerable amounts of money licensing codecs,
 even on products which they only intend to market in Europe.  On that
 basis, I think it's safe to conclude that there is more to the
 situation than you are suggesting.

That's certainly true. None the less, Frank is right.

These patents *are* illegal, if you read what the convention and the national 
laws actually say, and yet they are granted by routine. Whether they would 
hold up in court doesn't matter much apparently. They are effective anyway.

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Re: Packaging Survey - May 2009

2009-05-27 Thread Michael Fleming
On Wed, 27 May 2009 17:01:56 +0530
Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote:

 Hi
 
 I did a quick survey from Fedora on what software Fedora users are
 using that is not available in the repo. Here are the results. If you
 find anything interesting, feel free to pick it up.
 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging_Survey_May_2009
 
 Rahul
 

I can put my courier-authlib packages up for review - rpmlint only has
fairly minor complaints which are easily fixed - which will in turn
allow maildrop (which is already here) to build against it.

Courier-imap has it's own peculiar way of self-upgrading (via
sysconftool, another one of Sam's tools) which is extremely convenient
for the end-user but is definitely not the Fedora way of doing things.

The spec file is like a rougelike for RPM - once you go in you may
never come back alive

The configuration files under /usr/libexec can be moved around with
symlinks but getting it in good enough shape to pass review would
require some major surgery. However I'm on holidays from work at the
moment so I have some spare time, I might give it a shot anyway. :-)

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Re: The future of firestarter

2009-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/28/2009 02:24 AM, Adam Miller wrote:
 On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Cry cry_regar...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Any chance of filing a set of RFEs against system-config-firewall for the
 features that firestarter has that system-config-firewall is still missing?

 
 I like that idea, I've retired firestarter and will begin to file RFEs
 once I outline some features as well as pull the git repo and help
 with the development.

Thanks Adam.

Rahul

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Re: Online Docs group was: I must be doing something seriously wrong...

2009-05-27 Thread David
On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 09:05 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
 On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 15:09 +0200, Pierre-Yves wrote:

 There is an Online Docs group that has the -docs subpackage for many of
 the system-config-* packages.  It uses conditionals which are painful,
 but would be a way for more -docs subpackages to be visible, and if the
 user wishes to have local documentation, if available, for the packages
 they've chosen, they can pick that group.

 The group name is a bit... wrong, but maybe a group of people that care
 about documentation could help come up with a better name, and help to
 ensure that all the available -docs packages get listed in this group.

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Wed, 2009-05-27 at 14:16 +0200, Nils Philippsen wrote:
 Feel free to rename if you have a more suitable idea, though. If there
 is another means to achieve the same purpose, I'm all ears as well.

 The existence of the group is fine, and it should probably grow.  The
 problem is the name.  Online at least here in the states means on the
 internet, so Online Docs would mean documents that your read via the
 Internet.  Offline Docs is almost more correct but still a bit
 awkward.  Anyway, I don't really have good suggestions.

Suggestions:
Local Documentation
Local Help Documents

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Re: smlnj package

2009-05-27 Thread Adam Goode
On 05/27/2009 07:07 PM, Ricky Zhou wrote:
 Hey, would anybody be interested in helping to maintain a package for
 smlnj (http://www.smlnj.org/)?  I recently made a package for it
 (http://ricky.fedorapeople.org/pkgs/smlnj/), but I'm not quite brave
 enough to take on maintaining this all by myself (especially since I
 haven't even started learning SML yet).

Hi,

I can help maintain smlnj. I'm the maintainer of mlton, an SML compiler.
Once you get it into Fedora, I'll request co-maintainership.

You'll want to bootstrap your package, so that you don't rely on
binaries in the SRPM. I'm not exactly sure how to do it for smlnj, but
it will be something like this:

 1. Build with binaries in SRPM.
 2. Get it into koji rawhide
 3. Rebuild with BuildRequires: smlnj and with source only.


Thanks,

Adam



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[Bug 502565] CVE-2006-1861 CVE-2007-2754 Multiple freetype1 vulnerabilities [Fedora rawhide]

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--- Comment #7 from Tomas Hoger tho...@redhat.com  2009-05-27 02:44:03 EDT ---
(In reply to comment #6)
 I am curious which package still uses it and why we cannot drop this old
 library.

$ repoquery -q --whatrequires 'libttf.so.2()(64bit)'
freetype1-0:1.4-0.6.pre.fc10.x86_64
freetype1-utils-0:1.4-0.6.pre.fc10.x86_64
MagicPoint-0:1.11b-7.fc10.x86_64
freetype1-devel-0:1.4-0.6.pre.fc10.x86_64

Looks like only MagicPoint now.

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--- Comment #8 from Tomas Hoger tho...@redhat.com  2009-05-27 02:46:47 EDT ---
Ah, looks like Ajax already did few steps to get rid of that last dependency
either:

http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/rpms/MagicPoint/devel/MagicPoint.spec#rev1.11

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rpms/padauk-fonts/devel dead.package,NONE,1.1

2009-05-27 Thread Minto Joseph
Author: mintojoseph

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/padauk-fonts/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv27139

Added Files:
dead.package 
Log Message:

Added Files:
dead.package 



--- NEW FILE dead.package ---
The padauk-fonts has been renamed to sil-padauk-fonts following: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=477436

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[Bug 468193] Chinese fonts have changed file name

2009-05-27 Thread bugzilla
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Qiao 29551...@qq.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords||Reopened
 Status|CLOSED  |ASSIGNED
 Resolution|RAWHIDE |




--- Comment #8 from Qiao 29551...@qq.com  2009-05-27 08:49:18 EDT ---
Java application like Netbeans cannot display Chinese character because chinese
fonts package changed

file /usr/share/fonts/cjkunifonts-uming/uming.ttc in package cjkuni-uming-fonts
have moved to /usr/share/fonts/cjkuni/uming.ttc
file /usr/share/fonts/cjkunifonts-ukai/ukai.ttc in package cjkuni-ukai-fonts
have moved to /usr/share/fonts/cjkuni/ukai.ttc

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[Bug 493479] Review Request: woodardworks-laconic-fonts - An artistic and minimal sans-serif font family

2009-05-27 Thread bugzilla
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Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Flag||fedora-cvs+




--- Comment #6 from Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com  2009-05-27 
11:34:58 EDT ---
New Package CVS Request
===
Package Name: woodardworks-laconic-fonts
Short Description: An artistic and minimal sans-serif font family
Owners: spot
Branches: F-9 F-10 F-11 devel
InitialCC: fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com

... and it's done.

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--- Comment #8 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org  
2009-05-27 12:38:44 EDT ---
woodardworks-laconic-fonts-001.001-3.fc9 has been submitted as an update for
Fedora 9.
http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/woodardworks-laconic-fonts-001.001-3.fc9

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--- Comment #9 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org  
2009-05-27 12:38:49 EDT ---
woodardworks-laconic-fonts-001.001-3.fc11 has been submitted as an update for
Fedora 11.
http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/woodardworks-laconic-fonts-001.001-3.fc11

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--- Comment #7 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org  
2009-05-27 12:38:40 EDT ---
woodardworks-laconic-fonts-001.001-3.fc10 has been submitted as an update for
Fedora 10.
http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/woodardworks-laconic-fonts-001.001-3.fc10

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[Bug 502565] CVE-2006-1861 CVE-2007-2754 Multiple freetype1 vulnerabilities [Fedora rawhide]

2009-05-27 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #9 from Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com  2009-05-27 13:24:24 EDT ---
freetype1 is a dead package in F12.  We could remove it in F11 without too much
hassle but I didn't think it was worth it given how close to release we are.

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rpms/sil-charis-fonts/devel import.log, 1.3, 1.4 sil-charis-fonts-fontconfig.conf, 1.1, 1.2 sil-charis-fonts.spec, 1.5, 1.6

2009-05-27 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Author: nim

Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/sil-charis-fonts/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv32276/devel

Modified Files:
import.log sil-charis-fonts-fontconfig.conf 
sil-charis-fonts.spec 
Log Message:
prepare for charis sil compact import


Index: import.log
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/sil-charis-fonts/devel/import.log,v
retrieving revision 1.3
retrieving revision 1.4
diff -u -p -r1.3 -r1.4
--- import.log  21 May 2009 18:11:59 -  1.3
+++ import.log  27 May 2009 19:06:00 -  1.4
@@ -1,3 +1,4 @@
 
sil-charis-fonts-4_104-6_fc11:HEAD:sil-charis-fonts-4.104-6.fc11.src.rpm:1233040224
 
sil-charis-fonts-4_104-7_fc11:HEAD:sil-charis-fonts-4.104-7.fc11.src.rpm:1235379642
 
sil-charis-fonts-4_106-1_fc12:HEAD:sil-charis-fonts-4.106-1.fc12.src.rpm:1242929489
+sil-charis-fonts-4_106-2_fc12:HEAD:sil-charis-fonts-4.106-2.fc12.src.rpm:1243451099


Index: sil-charis-fonts-fontconfig.conf
===
RCS file: 
/cvs/extras/rpms/sil-charis-fonts/devel/sil-charis-fonts-fontconfig.conf,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -p -r1.1 -r1.2
--- sil-charis-fonts-fontconfig.conf27 Jan 2009 07:14:18 -  1.1
+++ sil-charis-fonts-fontconfig.conf27 May 2009 19:06:00 -  1.2
@@ -20,6 +20,12 @@
 /accept
   /alias
   alias binding=same
+familyCharis SIL Compact/family
+accept
+  familyCharis SIL/family
+/accept
+  /alias
+  alias binding=same
 familyCharis SIL Literacy/family
 accept
   familyCharis SIL/family


Index: sil-charis-fonts.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/sil-charis-fonts/devel/sil-charis-fonts.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.5
retrieving revision 1.6
diff -u -p -r1.5 -r1.6
--- sil-charis-fonts.spec   21 May 2009 18:11:59 -  1.5
+++ sil-charis-fonts.spec   27 May 2009 19:06:00 -  1.6
@@ -5,7 +5,7 @@
 
 Name:%{fontname}-fonts
 Version: 4.106
-Release: 1%{?dist}
+Release: 2%{?dist}
 Summary: A serif smart font similar to Bitstream Charter
 
 Group: User Interface/X
@@ -70,11 +70,16 @@ rm -fr %{buildroot}
 
 
 %changelog
+* Wed May 27 2009 nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net
+- 4.106-2
+– Propose Charis SIL as substitute to Charis SIL Compact when it's not 
available
+
 * Fri May 21 2009 nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net
 - 4.106-1
 – This version supports Unicode 5.1 and adds support for Small capitals
 
-* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 4.104-8
+* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org
+- 4.104-8
 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
 
 * Mon Feb 16 2009 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net

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2009-05-27 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Author: nim

Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/sil-charis-fonts/F-11
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv1143/F-11

Modified Files:
.cvsignore import.log sil-charis-fonts-fontconfig.conf 
sil-charis-fonts.spec sources 
Log Message:
prepare for charis sil compact import


Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/sil-charis-fonts/F-11/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.2
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -u -p -r1.2 -r1.3
--- .cvsignore  27 Jan 2009 07:14:18 -  1.2
+++ .cvsignore  27 May 2009 19:10:20 -  1.3
@@ -1 +1 @@
-CharisSIL4.104.zip
+CharisSIL4.106.zip


Index: import.log
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/sil-charis-fonts/F-11/import.log,v
retrieving revision 1.2
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -u -p -r1.2 -r1.3
--- import.log  23 Feb 2009 09:01:05 -  1.2
+++ import.log  27 May 2009 19:10:20 -  1.3
@@ -1,2 +1,3 @@
 
sil-charis-fonts-4_104-6_fc11:HEAD:sil-charis-fonts-4.104-6.fc11.src.rpm:1233040224
 
sil-charis-fonts-4_104-7_fc11:HEAD:sil-charis-fonts-4.104-7.fc11.src.rpm:1235379642
+sil-charis-fonts-4_106-2_fc12:F-11:sil-charis-fonts-4.106-2.fc12.src.rpm:1243451246


Index: sil-charis-fonts-fontconfig.conf
===
RCS file: 
/cvs/extras/rpms/sil-charis-fonts/F-11/sil-charis-fonts-fontconfig.conf,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -p -r1.1 -r1.2
--- sil-charis-fonts-fontconfig.conf27 Jan 2009 07:14:18 -  1.1
+++ sil-charis-fonts-fontconfig.conf27 May 2009 19:10:20 -  1.2
@@ -20,6 +20,12 @@
 /accept
   /alias
   alias binding=same
+familyCharis SIL Compact/family
+accept
+  familyCharis SIL/family
+/accept
+  /alias
+  alias binding=same
 familyCharis SIL Literacy/family
 accept
   familyCharis SIL/family


Index: sil-charis-fonts.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/sil-charis-fonts/F-11/sil-charis-fonts.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.4
retrieving revision 1.5
diff -u -p -r1.4 -r1.5
--- sil-charis-fonts.spec   26 Feb 2009 00:59:58 -  1.4
+++ sil-charis-fonts.spec   27 May 2009 19:10:20 -  1.5
@@ -4,8 +4,8 @@
 %global archivename CharisSIL
 
 Name:%{fontname}-fonts
-Version: 4.104
-Release: 8%{?dist}
+Version: 4.106
+Release: 2%{?dist}
 Summary: A serif smart font similar to Bitstream Charter
 
 Group: User Interface/X
@@ -66,11 +66,20 @@ rm -fr %{buildroot}
 
 %_font_pkg -f %{fontconf} *.ttf
 
-%doc *.txt *.pdf
+%doc *.txt
 
 
 %changelog
-* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 4.104-8
+* Wed May 27 2009 nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net
+- 4.106-2
+– Propose Charis SIL as substitute to Charis SIL Compact when it's not 
available
+
+* Fri May 21 2009 nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net
+- 4.106-1
+– This version supports Unicode 5.1 and adds support for Small capitals
+
+* Wed Feb 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org
+- 4.104-8
 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
 
 * Mon Feb 16 2009 Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/sil-charis-fonts/F-11/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.2
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -u -p -r1.2 -r1.3
--- sources 27 Jan 2009 07:14:18 -  1.2
+++ sources 27 May 2009 19:10:20 -  1.3
@@ -1 +1 @@
-acc153c243b90e3e5d0bb53476ab894e  CharisSIL4.104.zip
+045aea5116c6c20e5b84e165d9727f0c  CharisSIL4.106.zip

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Author: nim

Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/sil-charis-compact-fonts/F-11
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv1854/F-11

Modified Files:
.cvsignore sources 
Added Files:
import.log sil-charis-compact-fonts-fontconfig.conf 
sil-charis-compact-fonts.spec 
Log Message:
initial import


--- NEW FILE import.log ---
sil-charis-compact-fonts-4_106-1_fc12:F-11:sil-charis-compact-fonts-4.106-1.fc12.src.rpm:1243451470


--- NEW FILE sil-charis-compact-fonts-fontconfig.conf ---
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM ../fonts.dtd
fontconfig
  alias
familyserif/family
prefer
  familyCharis SIL Compact/family
/prefer
  /alias
  alias
familyCharis SIL Compact/family
default
  familyserif/family
/default
  /alias
  alias binding=same
familyBitstream Charter/family
accept
  familyCharis SIL Compact/family
/accept
  /alias
  alias binding=same
familyCharis SIL/family
accept
  familyCharis SIL Compact/family
/accept
  /alias
  alias binding=same
familyCharis SIL Literacy/family
accept
  familyCharis SIL Compact/family
/accept
  /alias
/fontconfig


--- NEW FILE sil-charis-compact-fonts.spec ---
%global fontname sil-charis-compact
%global fontconf 61-%{fontname}.conf

%global archivename CharisSILCompact

Name:%{fontname}-fonts
Version: 4.106
Release: 1%{?dist}
Summary: A version of Charis SIL with tighter line spacing

Group: User Interface/X
License:   OFL
URL:   http://scripts.sil.org/CharisSILFont
# Actual download URL
# 
http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/render_download.php?site_id=nrsiformat=filemedia_id=%{archivename}.zipfilename=%{archivename}%{version}.zip
Source0:   %{archivename}%{version}.zip
Source1:   %{name}-fontconfig.conf
BuildRoot: %(mktemp -ud %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-XX)

BuildArch: noarch
BuildRequires: fontpackages-devel
Requires:  fontpackages-filesystem

%description
Charis SIL provides glyphs for a wide range of Latin and Cyrillic characters.
Charis is similar to Bitstream Charter, one of the first fonts designed
specifically for laser printers. It is highly readable and holds up well in
less-than-ideal reproduction environments. It also has a full set of styles
— regular, italic, bold, bold italic — and so is more useful in general
publishing than Doulos SIL. Charis is a serif proportionally spaced font
optimized for readability in long printed documents.

The Charis SIL Compact fonts were derived from Charis SIL using SIL TypeTuner,
by setting the “Line spacing” feature to “Tight”, and they cannot be 
TypeTuned
again. They may exhibit some diacritics clipping on screen (but should print
fine).


%prep
%setup -q -n %{archivename}
for txt in *.txt ; do
   fold -s $txt  $txt.new
   sed -i 's/\r//' $txt.new
   touch -r $txt $txt.new
   mv $txt.new $txt
done


%build


%install
rm -fr %{buildroot}

install -m 0755 -d %{buildroot}%{_fontdir}
install -m 0644 -p *.ttf %{buildroot}%{_fontdir}

install -m 0755 -d %{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_templatedir} \
   %{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_confdir}

install -m 0644 -p %{SOURCE1} \
%{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_templatedir}/%{fontconf}
ln -s %{_fontconfig_templatedir}/%{fontconf} \
  %{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_confdir}/%{fontconf}


%clean
rm -fr %{buildroot}


%_font_pkg -f %{fontconf} *.ttf

%doc *.txt


%changelog
* Sat May 23 2009 nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net
- 4.106-1
– Initial release


Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/sil-charis-compact-fonts/F-11/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -p -r1.1 -r1.2
--- .cvsignore  26 May 2009 22:29:34 -  1.1
+++ .cvsignore  27 May 2009 19:11:41 -  1.2
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+CharisSILCompact4.106.zip


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/sil-charis-compact-fonts/F-11/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -p -r1.1 -r1.2
--- sources 26 May 2009 22:29:34 -  1.1
+++ sources 27 May 2009 19:11:41 -  1.2
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+d48c3a1c191891f0347764d1a005b7a3  CharisSILCompact4.106.zip

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2009-05-27 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Author: nim

Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/sil-charis-compact-fonts/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv1263/devel

Modified Files:
.cvsignore sources 
Added Files:
import.log sil-charis-compact-fonts-fontconfig.conf 
sil-charis-compact-fonts.spec 
Log Message:
initial import


--- NEW FILE import.log ---
sil-charis-compact-fonts-4_106-1_fc12:HEAD:sil-charis-compact-fonts-4.106-1.fc12.src.rpm:1243451404


--- NEW FILE sil-charis-compact-fonts-fontconfig.conf ---
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM ../fonts.dtd
fontconfig
  alias
familyserif/family
prefer
  familyCharis SIL Compact/family
/prefer
  /alias
  alias
familyCharis SIL Compact/family
default
  familyserif/family
/default
  /alias
  alias binding=same
familyBitstream Charter/family
accept
  familyCharis SIL Compact/family
/accept
  /alias
  alias binding=same
familyCharis SIL/family
accept
  familyCharis SIL Compact/family
/accept
  /alias
  alias binding=same
familyCharis SIL Literacy/family
accept
  familyCharis SIL Compact/family
/accept
  /alias
/fontconfig


--- NEW FILE sil-charis-compact-fonts.spec ---
%global fontname sil-charis-compact
%global fontconf 61-%{fontname}.conf

%global archivename CharisSILCompact

Name:%{fontname}-fonts
Version: 4.106
Release: 1%{?dist}
Summary: A version of Charis SIL with tighter line spacing

Group: User Interface/X
License:   OFL
URL:   http://scripts.sil.org/CharisSILFont
# Actual download URL
# 
http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/render_download.php?site_id=nrsiformat=filemedia_id=%{archivename}.zipfilename=%{archivename}%{version}.zip
Source0:   %{archivename}%{version}.zip
Source1:   %{name}-fontconfig.conf
BuildRoot: %(mktemp -ud %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-XX)

BuildArch: noarch
BuildRequires: fontpackages-devel
Requires:  fontpackages-filesystem

%description
Charis SIL provides glyphs for a wide range of Latin and Cyrillic characters.
Charis is similar to Bitstream Charter, one of the first fonts designed
specifically for laser printers. It is highly readable and holds up well in
less-than-ideal reproduction environments. It also has a full set of styles
— regular, italic, bold, bold italic — and so is more useful in general
publishing than Doulos SIL. Charis is a serif proportionally spaced font
optimized for readability in long printed documents.

The Charis SIL Compact fonts were derived from Charis SIL using SIL TypeTuner,
by setting the “Line spacing” feature to “Tight”, and they cannot be 
TypeTuned
again. They may exhibit some diacritics clipping on screen (but should print
fine).


%prep
%setup -q -n %{archivename}
for txt in *.txt ; do
   fold -s $txt  $txt.new
   sed -i 's/\r//' $txt.new
   touch -r $txt $txt.new
   mv $txt.new $txt
done


%build


%install
rm -fr %{buildroot}

install -m 0755 -d %{buildroot}%{_fontdir}
install -m 0644 -p *.ttf %{buildroot}%{_fontdir}

install -m 0755 -d %{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_templatedir} \
   %{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_confdir}

install -m 0644 -p %{SOURCE1} \
%{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_templatedir}/%{fontconf}
ln -s %{_fontconfig_templatedir}/%{fontconf} \
  %{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_confdir}/%{fontconf}


%clean
rm -fr %{buildroot}


%_font_pkg -f %{fontconf} *.ttf

%doc *.txt


%changelog
* Sat May 23 2009 nicolas.mailhot at laposte.net
- 4.106-1
– Initial release


Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/sil-charis-compact-fonts/devel/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -p -r1.1 -r1.2
--- .cvsignore  26 May 2009 22:29:34 -  1.1
+++ .cvsignore  27 May 2009 19:10:45 -  1.2
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+CharisSILCompact4.106.zip


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/sil-charis-compact-fonts/devel/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -p -r1.1 -r1.2
--- sources 26 May 2009 22:29:34 -  1.1
+++ sources 27 May 2009 19:10:45 -  1.2
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+d48c3a1c191891f0347764d1a005b7a3  CharisSILCompact4.106.zip

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[Bug 502307] Review Request:sil-charis-compact-fonts - A version of Charis SIL with tighter line spacing

2009-05-27 Thread bugzilla
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Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED
 Resolution||NEXTRELEASE




--- Comment #4 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2009-05-27 
15:21:53 EDT ---
Pushed.

Thanks everyone.

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[Bug 502307] Review Request:sil-charis-compact-fonts - A version of Charis SIL with tighter line spacing

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--- Comment #5 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org  
2009-05-27 15:24:20 EDT ---
sil-charis-fonts-4.106-2.fc11,sil-charis-compact-fonts-4.106-1.fc11 has been
submitted as an update for Fedora 11.
http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/sil-charis-fonts-4.106-2.fc11,sil-charis-compact-fonts-4.106-1.fc11

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[Bug 444559] [ml_IN] Wrong shape for conjuncts formed using 0D30 (xRa) in a word

2009-05-27 Thread bugzilla
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Jens Petersen peter...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|MODIFIED|CLOSED
 Resolution||CURRENTRELEASE




--- Comment #9 from Jens Petersen peter...@redhat.com  2009-05-27 18:40:51 
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Closing - please reopen if there should still be any problem.

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[Bug 402331] [ml_IN] Wrong combinations used for conjunct ' ന്‍റ '

2009-05-27 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #21 from Jens Petersen peter...@redhat.com  2009-05-27 18:40:48 
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Closing - please reopen if there should still be any problem.

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[Bug 444563] [ml_IN] When 0D2F is combined with a consonant and followed by 0D15, 0D2F joins with 0D15

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--- Comment #8 from Jens Petersen peter...@redhat.com  2009-05-27 18:40:53 
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Closing - please reopen if there should still be any problem.

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[Bug 402321] [ml_IN] Wrong combinations used for the conjunct ' ന്പ '

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--- Comment #11 from Jens Petersen peter...@redhat.com  2009-05-27 18:40:46 
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Closing - please reopen if there should still be any problem.

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[Bug 431029] [ml_IN] Wrong combinations used for conjunct ' ന്‍റ '

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Bug 431029 depends on bug 402331, which changed state.

Bug 402331 Summary: [ml_IN] Wrong combinations used for conjunct 'ന്‍റ'
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=402331

   What|Old Value   |New Value

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Change Freeze

2009-05-27 Thread Mike McGrath
I'd like to clean up some old plague cruft on ppc2 (which has started
throwing storage warnings)

rm -rf /mnt/build/builder_work/*

+1's?

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Re: Change Freeze

2009-05-27 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Wednesday 27 May 2009 04:38:13 pm Mike McGrath wrote:
 I'd like to clean up some old plague cruft on ppc2 (which has started
 throwing storage warnings)

 rm -rf /mnt/build/builder_work/*

 +1's?
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Re: My Introduction

2009-05-27 Thread Mike McGrath
On Tue, 26 May 2009, Sijis Aviles wrote:

 Hey all. My name is Sijis Aviles and I'm a Systems Engineer living in
 Chicago, IL. I've been using linux for about 5 years now, and became
 an RHCE about a 1 1/2 years ago. I started with Debian and then moved
 to Fedora during the F7 release. My experiences are primarily with
 scripting and web technologies: PHP, Batch, VB, Bash, HTML/CSS and
 some Perl, C/C++. I'm currently learning Python.

 I love to learn and figure out how things work. Challenges are always
 fun and I'm not afraid to ask questions or for help.

 I think I'd like to participate with the web, noc or tools FIGs.

 I hope I can be of help and continue the Fedora tradition.

 Sijis


Welcome Sijis!  How much time / week are you interested in participating?
Also have you seen -
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted

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Re: Change Freeze

2009-05-27 Thread Ricky Zhou
On 2009-05-27 04:41:27 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
 On Wednesday 27 May 2009 04:38:13 pm Mike McGrath wrote:
  I'd like to clean up some old plague cruft on ppc2 (which has started
  throwing storage warnings)
 
  rm -rf /mnt/build/builder_work/*
 
  +1's?
 +1
+1 (and strangely, I still haven't gotten the original email).

Thanks,
Ricky


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Redirect needed for docs.fp.o

2009-05-27 Thread Paul W. Frields
Could I ask someone to set up a rewrite rule or a redirect that would
send people from:
  http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f11preview
to:
  http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f11

And from:
  http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f10preview
to:
  http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f10

I'm not the expert but I think what we need is a rewrite, since there
are a ton of subdirectories and files under there.

The /f10 content is pre-existing, and essentially we're just sending
people away from preview content to the final content.  In the /f11
case it's the same, but I've copied the preview content and the Docs
team will simply replace the preview content with the final content
shortly for release day.

We're doing this because QA noted, wisely, that the way things stand
right now, they have to change some links in a release-day rain dance
to make sure people are looking at the right content.  Better that the
link always point to a single location and that the content update.

Our Docs crew is relatively new at this and out of an abundance of
caution they chose to keep the preview docs separated.  In the future
everyone agreed there should be a procedure of treating these
directories like branches, with no need for 'f12beta' or 'f12preview'.

Eric Christensen will file a ticket to support this request, as soon
as I get the CVS stuff done to support it.

Did I mention how hard it is to use CVS now that I use git regularly?
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[PATCH] Add requested redirects for release notes.

2009-05-27 Thread Ricky Zhou
---
 .../web/docs.fedoraproject.org/amodRewrite.conf|2 ++
 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)

diff --git a/configs/web/docs.fedoraproject.org/amodRewrite.conf 
b/configs/web/docs.fedoraproject.org/amodRewrite.conf
index 6ca8ac5..55add46 100644
--- a/configs/web/docs.fedoraproject.org/amodRewrite.conf
+++ b/configs/web/docs.fedoraproject.org/amodRewrite.conf
@@ -2,3 +2,5 @@ RewriteEngine On
 RedirectMatch ^/$  http://docs.fedoraproject.org/docs/
 RewriteRule ^(.*)/fc7/$ http://docs.fedoraproject.org/$1/f7/ [R,L]
 RewriteRule ^(.*)/fc7$  http://docs.fedoraproject.org/$1/f7/ [R,L]
+Redirect /release-notes/f11preview /release-notes/f11
+Redirect /release-notes/f10preview /release-notes/f10
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Re: My Introduction

2009-05-27 Thread Sijis Aviles
Hi Mike,

I anticipate being available ~10hr/week.

I have read through that document. I created a Fedora Account (ID:
sijis) a few days ago and i've been lurking in #fedora-admin too. I'm
just observing and getting acquainted on what's going on.

I plan on attending the meeting on Thursday afternoon.

See you all there.

Sijis


On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Tue, 26 May 2009, Sijis Aviles wrote:

 Hey all. My name is Sijis Aviles and I'm a Systems Engineer living in
 Chicago, IL. I've been using linux for about 5 years now, and became
 an RHCE about a 1 1/2 years ago. I started with Debian and then moved
 to Fedora during the F7 release. My experiences are primarily with
 scripting and web technologies: PHP, Batch, VB, Bash, HTML/CSS and
 some Perl, C/C++. I'm currently learning Python.

 I love to learn and figure out how things work. Challenges are always
 fun and I'm not afraid to ask questions or for help.

 I think I'd like to participate with the web, noc or tools FIGs.

 I hope I can be of help and continue the Fedora tradition.

 Sijis


 Welcome Sijis!  How much time / week are you interested in participating?
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Re: What software is missing in the Fedora repository?

2009-05-27 Thread Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu
On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 19:57 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 16:31 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
  Tell me the home page of the software and give me a brief description
  on what it does.
 
 A couple of video transcoder GUIs which look interesting. See
 http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/333904/1e8930cff396a065/ for an overview.
 
 1) Arista: http://programmer-art.org/projects/arista-transcoder

 2) Transmageddon: http://www.linuxrising.org/transmageddon/

Staying on the theme of video software, I'd love to see Kdenlive in the
Fedora repo.  I've been wanting to try it out ever since I heard about
it.

http://www.kdenlive.org/

Kdenlive is a free open-source video editor for GNU/Linux and FreeBSD,
which supports DV, AVCHD (experimental support) and HDV editing.
Kdenlive relies on several other open source projects, such as FFmpeg
and MLT video framework. Our software was designed to answer all needs,
from basic video editing to semi-professionnal work.

Regards,

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Re: What software is missing in the Fedora repository?

2009-05-27 Thread Henry Ritzlmayr
Am Mittwoch, den 27.05.2009, 02:04 -0400 schrieb Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu:
 On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 19:57 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
  On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 16:31 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
   Tell me the home page of the software and give me a brief description
   on what it does.
  
  A couple of video transcoder GUIs which look interesting. See
  http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/333904/1e8930cff396a065/ for an overview.
  
  1) Arista: http://programmer-art.org/projects/arista-transcoder
 
  2) Transmageddon: http://www.linuxrising.org/transmageddon/
 
 Staying on the theme of video software, I'd love to see Kdenlive in the
 Fedora repo.  I've been wanting to try it out ever since I heard about
 it.
 
 http://www.kdenlive.org/
 
 Kdenlive is a free open-source video editor for GNU/Linux and FreeBSD,
 which supports DV, AVCHD (experimental support) and HDV editing.
 Kdenlive relies on several other open source projects, such as FFmpeg
 and MLT video framework. Our software was designed to answer all needs,
 from basic video editing to semi-professionnal work.
 
 Regards,
 
 Ranbir

As Rahul already stated, it is going to be in RPM Fusion

https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=529

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Re: hardware for fedora

2009-05-27 Thread Sharpe, Sam J
2009/5/26 Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at:
 Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
 I happen to have mine with an NVidia NVS290, but the built in Intel
 GMA3100 seems to work well too.

 It actually works better as it doesn't need proprietary third-party drivers.
 The GMA3100 just works out of the box. NVidia is a PITA.

We'll have to agree to disagree on that.

I don't find it a PITA (I have akmod-nvidia installed) and the 3D
performance of the Intel chipset is not great enough to satisfy the
applications that some of my users run.

I appreciate the point that Intel is much more open in it's driver
development and I wish NVidia were the same, but they're not and I
decided to sacrifice a little freedom for a lot of performance.

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Re: What software is missing in the Fedora repository?

2009-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/22/2009 05:57 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 16:31 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 Tell me the home page of the software and give me a brief description
 on what it does.
 
 A couple of video transcoder GUIs which look interesting. See
 http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/333904/1e8930cff396a065/ for an overview.
 
 1) Arista: http://programmer-art.org/projects/arista-transcoder
 
 An easy to use multimedia transcoder for the GNOME Desktop. Arista
 focuses on being easy to use by making the complex task of encoding for
 various devices simple. Pick your input, pick your target device, choose
 a file to save to and go.
 
 2) Transmageddon: http://www.linuxrising.org/transmageddon/

I have submitted Arista for review at

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502477

Transmageddon requires a new release of pyobject2 with a fix that I am
waiting for. In communication with upstream about this.

Rahul

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Re: What software is missing in the Fedora repository?

2009-05-27 Thread Frank Cox
One other program that I use regularly and install on everything is this:

http://gtapecalc.sourceforge.net/

http://www.mailinglistarchive.com/fedora-list@redhat.com/msg108188.html

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Re: Enlightenment and NetworkManager

2009-05-27 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 3:16 AM, jack wallen jlwal...@monkeypantz.net wrote:


 Valent Turkovic wrote:
 On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 4:27 PM, jack wallen jlwal...@monkeypantz.net 
 wrote:
 Valent Turkovic wrote:
 On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 2:31 PM, jack wallen jlwal...@monkeypantz.net 
 wrote:
 Valent Turkovic wrote:
 Now are you using nm-applet in enlightenment? I have started nm-applet
 in xterm window but don't see it anywhere in enlightenment, strange.
 you won't actually see it show up. if you've already configured
 nm-applet in GNOME all you need to do is issue the command:

 nm-applet 

 from the command line. it should pick up an ip address from your
 wireless. issue something like:

 ping yahoo.com

 to test it. if it doesn't work right away i will issue the nm-applet 
 command a second time.

 now to make this easy i add an entry to the E16 menu that looks like this:

 Wireless NULL exec nm-applet 

 that menu entry will go in ~/.e16/menus/user_apps.menu

 save that and give it a try.

 hope that helps.

 jack

 I told you wrong info, I'm running E17 on Fedora 10 - the package is
 called enligtenment and current version is 0.16 and that confused me,
 and also there are also E16 packages available in Fedora 10 repos...
 really confusing.

 At home I could probably use nm-applet trick to make wireless work,
 but how to make wired networking work with static IP addresses - not
 with DHCP?

 At work we have static IP addresses so nm-applet trick doesn't work.

 For Elightenment to work as normal desktop I see two major issues:
 - network manager integration (or wicd integration)
 - usb stick automatic mounting

 do you have any suggestions how to make this work?


 You should be able to configure both in GNOME with nm-applet. Once those
 are configured running nm-applet in E17 should detect which you are
 using. At least in theory it should. or you could manually configure
 both interfaces and then use the ifup command to bring them up. you
 would use something like:

 ifup eth0

 or

 ifup wlan0

 you could configure both interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces


I sometimes use wireless, some times wired network with dhcp and
sometimes static IP addresses, and here nm-applet would work for all
but for last scenario (static IP addresses).

There is a module called systray for E17, it looks like it is really
new and Ubuntu guys packaged it but it hasn't landed in Fedora yet.
This module would let NetworkManager work in E17.


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I'm looking for Fedora+Asterisk+Jabber+Ldap+MUA+Imap+Samba HOW-TO

2009-05-27 Thread Dario Lesca
Someone can point me to some HOW-TO for setup a all-in-one Fedora/Centos
Server with this application:

  * AUTH via Ldap
  * Jabber for IM
  * Asterisk for VOIP
  * Mail server for send mail
  * IMAP server for Store and read E-Mail
  * Samba Server for PDC
  * A Groupware for Share Calendar
  * Address Book

I have see witch all this application are stored in Fedora Repo, but my
question is: How To integrate and configure everything together ?

Thanks for help.

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Re: hardware for fedora

2009-05-27 Thread Steve Searle
Around 07:33am on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 (UK time), Sharpe, Sam J scrawled:

 I don't find it a PITA (I have akmod-nvidia installed) and the 3D
 performance of the Intel chipset is not great enough to satisfy the
 applications that some of my users run.

Out of interest, what applications?

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Re: What software is missing in the Fedora repository?

2009-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/21/2009 12:53 PM, Giuseppe Fuggiano wrote:
 Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 Hi,

 I am doing a quick survey for software that you use on a regular basis
 that is not available via the Fedora repository. Software that you
 suggest should be free and open source, free of patent and other legal
 issues.

 Tell me the home page of the software and give me a brief description on
 what it does.  Bonus points if you can see in Google for software-name
 fedora package review to figure it if it is already in the Fedora
 package review queue. If you know of RPM packages in other distributions
 for the software your are suggesting, that information is useful as well.
 
 Name: OpenAFS
 
 Home page:  http://www.openafs.org/

Can't go in as it requires a third party kernel module with a different
license.

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Re: emacs c++ code completion help

2009-05-27 Thread GMS S

Hello,
Can anyone tell how to get the C++ auto code completion in emacs?
How to get the list of funcions of a class after typing dot (.) and arrow (-) ?

I followed this link but it is not working after typing dot (.).
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/AutoComplete#toc2


  

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Re: I'm looking for Fedora+Asterisk+Jabber+Ldap+MUA+Imap+Samba HOW-TO

2009-05-27 Thread Arun Shrimali
Dear Dario,

I too is looking for the perfect how to for all the said
application, there are lots of how to but none of them is complete and
updated ...

Arun

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Dario Lesca d.le...@solinos.it wrote:
 Someone can point me to some HOW-TO for setup a all-in-one Fedora/Centos
 Server with this application:

      * AUTH via Ldap
      * Jabber for IM
      * Asterisk for VOIP
      * Mail server for send mail
      * IMAP server for Store and read E-Mail
      * Samba Server for PDC
      * A Groupware for Share Calendar
      * Address Book

 I have see witch all this application are stored in Fedora Repo, but my
 question is: How To integrate and configure everything together ?

 Thanks for help.

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Re: hardware for fedora

2009-05-27 Thread Sharpe, Sam J

Steve Searle wrote:
Around 07:33am on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 (UK time), Sharpe, Sam J 
scrawled:


 I don't find it a PITA (I have akmod-nvidia installed) and the 3D
 performance of the Intel chipset is not great enough to satisfy the
 applications that some of my users run.

Out of interest, what applications?

Mainly high end engineering stuff, like:

ABAQUS: http://www.simulia.com/
STAR-CD: http://www.cd-adapco.com/

It's not so much actually running the analysis, as that's CPU-bound 
(although I hear some of the newer software will take advantage of GPU 
processing) - it's the subsequent loading and viewing of the resulting 
outputs, which are typically OpenGL overlays of data on top of a 3d 
representation of whatever they are modelling (I'm an Electronic 
Engineer, I don't really understand what these Mech/Aero guys do ;o)


Same goes for some of the stuff the Chemistry department use to simulate 
and view molecules, spinning them in pretty ways takes a lot of GPU power.


Also, the users are really really picky - they don't like the GPU 
stealing 128MB of their 4GB main memory (which is what the GMA3100 in 
the models we buy does) - they'd rather have the extra 0.125GB to fiddle 
with the models and spend the extra few bucks on a discrete graphics card.


(I work at a University - so it's not your average software user-base)

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Re: I'm looking for Fedora+Asterisk+Jabber+Ldap+MUA+Imap+Samba HOW-TO

2009-05-27 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)

Arun Shrimali wrote:

Dear Dario,

I too is looking for the perfect how to for all the said
application, there are lots of how to but none of them is complete and
updated ...

Arun

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Dario Lesca d.le...@solinos.it wrote:

Someone can point me to some HOW-TO for setup a all-in-one Fedora/Centos
Server with this application:

 * AUTH via Ldap
 * Jabber for IM
 * Asterisk for VOIP
 * Mail server for send mail
 * IMAP server for Store and read E-Mail
 * Samba Server for PDC
 * A Groupware for Share Calendar
 * Address Book





Maybe compile ebox from source:
http://ebox-platform.com/

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Packaging Survey - May 2009

2009-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi

I put up all the suggested packages from different sources and their
status at

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging_Survey_May_2009

Thanks for all your feedback. If you find anything more, feel free to
drop me a mail.

Rahul

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Re: Packaging Survey - May 2009

2009-05-27 Thread Jonathan Underwood
2009/5/27 Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org:
 Hi

 I put up all the suggested packages from different sources and their
 status at

 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging_Survey_May_2009

 Thanks for all your feedback. If you find anything more, feel free to
 drop me a mail.


Why not combine this info with

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/WishList

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Re: Packaging Survey - May 2009

2009-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2009 05:07 PM, Jonathan Underwood wrote:

 
 Why not combine this info with
 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/WishList

It is cross referenced and categorized appropriately. I have kept them
separate so as to show progress and focus on this list.

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help

2009-05-27 Thread B SUDHIR
Hi
I'm using fedora core 5 i'm not able to install mozilla firefox tarball to
get latest version,Unable to play movies in totem media player it's showing
error that it needs a decoder,unable to use openoffice it says it needs jre
even though i installed it help me i can't use earlier versions because i
have less graphics memory
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Re: F9 /usr/bin/java is not owned by any package - huh?

2009-05-27 Thread Rex Dieter
David wrote:

 On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Clint Dilks cli...@scms.waikato.ac.nz
 wrote:
 David wrote:

 Newbie question: I'm surprised by the rpm -qf response: file
 /usr/bin/java is not owned by any package below.
 
 This is most likely because you are using the alternatives system with
 Java.

 I hope this helps :)
 
 Perfectly correct and clear, thank you.
 
 I never heard of alternatives before, but 'man alternatives' explains
 it.

For what it's worth, we're currently working on packaging guidelines for
alternatives, which makes their targets be owned properly.

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Re: Packaging Survey - May 2009

2009-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2009 06:53 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
 On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 17:03:06 +0530,
   wrote:

 Thanks for all your feedback. If you find anything more, feel free to
 drop me a mail.
 
 The list doesn't include any of the DJB stuff, such as qmail, djbdns,
 daemontools, and ucspi-tcp. Related is ezmlm-idx which is a qmail
 dependent list server that is an extension of ezmlm mostly maintained
 by Bruce Guenter these days.

Can you add these to the wiki?

Rahul

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Can't get updates

2009-05-27 Thread Anne Wilson
I'm having great problem after upgrading F9 to F10 (using an install dvd).  I 
get huge numbers of updates downloaded, but then it fails.  The problem 
appears to be related to my updates repo.  I've tried it with both baseurl and 
mirrors, without success.  Errors I've seen include

Could not retrieve mirrorlist 
http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=updates-released-
f10arch=i386 error was
[Errno 4] IOError: urlopen error (-2, 'Name or service not known')
Error: Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: updates

Trying other mirror.
http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/10/i386/xsane-
gimp-0.996-3.fc10.i386.rpm: [Errno 4] IOError: urlopen error (-2, 'Name or 
service not known')
Trying other mirror.

My updates repo says:

[updates]
name=Fedora $releasever - $basearch - Updates
failovermethod=priority
#baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/$releasever/$basearch/
mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=updates-released-
f$releaseverarch=$basearch
enabled=1
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-$basearch

[updates-debuginfo]
name=Fedora $releasever - $basearch - Updates - Debug
failovermethod=priority
baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/$releasever/$basearch/debug/
#mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=updates-released-
debug-f$releaseverarch=$basearch
enabled=0
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-$basearch

[updates-source]
name=Fedora $releasever - Updates Source
failovermethod=priority
baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/$releasever/SRPMS/
#mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=updates-released-
source-f$releaseverarch=$basearch
enabled=0
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-$basearch


Can someone point me to the problem and solution?  Thanks

Anne



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Re: I'm looking for Fedora+Asterisk+Jabber+Ldap+MUA+Imap+Samba HOW-TO

2009-05-27 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno mer, 27/05/2009 alle 12.30 +0100, Frank Murphy (Frankly3d) ha
scritto:
 
 Maybe compile ebox from source:
 http://ebox-platform.com/

Ok, thanks, this seem a good project.
But is based on (and binary is for) Ubuntu.

Nothing for Fedora?

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Re: Can't get updates

2009-05-27 Thread François Patte
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Anne Wilson a écrit :
 I'm having great problem after upgrading F9 to F10 (using an install dvd).  I 
 get huge numbers of updates downloaded, but then it fails. 

Did you, before all update yum:

yum update yum


Then, after,

yum update

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Re: I'm looking for Fedora+Asterisk+Jabber+Ldap+MUA+Imap+Samba HOW-TO

2009-05-27 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)

Dario Lesca wrote:

Il giorno mer, 27/05/2009 alle 12.30 +0100, Frank Murphy (Frankly3d) ha
scritto:

Maybe compile ebox from source:
http://ebox-platform.com/


Ok, thanks, this seem a good project.
But is based on (and binary is for) Ubuntu.

Nothing for Fedora?

Thanks



At the moment No.
Though it is included in Rahuls feedback wiki:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging_Survey_May_2009
Hopefully it will be picked up,
as I'm not in apostition skill wise to package yet.

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Re: Can't get updates

2009-05-27 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 27 May 2009 15:09:03 François Patte wrote:
 Anne Wilson a écrit :
  I'm having great problem after upgrading F9 to F10 (using an install
  dvd).  I get huge numbers of updates downloaded, but then it fails.

 Did you, before all update yum:

 yum update yum

I forgot that - but I can't:

Downloading Packages:
http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/testing/10/i386/yum-3.2.23-3.fc10.noarch.rpm:
 
[Errno 4] IOError: urlopen error (-2, 'Name or service not known')
Trying other mirror.


Error Downloading Packages:
  yum-3.2.23-3.fc10.noarch: failure: yum-3.2.23-3.fc10.noarch.rpm from 
updates-testing: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try.

Anne


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Re: Can't get updates

2009-05-27 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)

Anne Wilson wrote:

On Wednesday 27 May 2009 15:09:03 François Patte wrote:

Anne Wilson a écrit :

I'm having great problem after upgrading F9 to F10 (using an install
dvd).  I get huge numbers of updates downloaded, but then it fails.

Did you, before all update yum:

yum update yum


I forgot that - but I can't:

Downloading Packages:
http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/testing/10/i386/yum-3.2.23-3.fc10.noarch.rpm: 
[Errno 4] IOError: urlopen error (-2, 'Name or service not known')

Trying other mirror.


Error Downloading Packages:
  yum-3.2.23-3.fc10.noarch: failure: yum-3.2.23-3.fc10.noarch.rpm from 
updates-testing: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try.



download the rpm and do yum localinstall or rpm -Uvh

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Re: Can't get updates

2009-05-27 Thread Antonio M
2009/5/27 Anne Wilson an...@kde.org:
 On Wednesday 27 May 2009 15:09:03 François Patte wrote:
 Anne Wilson a écrit :
  I'm having great problem after upgrading F9 to F10 (using an install
  dvd).  I get huge numbers of updates downloaded, but then it fails.

 Did you, before all update yum:

 yum update yum

 I forgot that - but I can't:

 Downloading Packages:
 http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/testing/10/i386/yum-3.2.23-3.fc10.noarch.rpm:
 [Errno 4] IOError: urlopen error (-2, 'Name or service not known')
 Trying other mirror.


 Error Downloading Packages:
  yum-3.2.23-3.fc10.noarch: failure: yum-3.2.23-3.fc10.noarch.rpm from
 updates-testing: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try.

 Anne

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Anne,

can you download the yum rpm directly and save on your hard disk???
then by rpm command you should be able to install it...


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