ERRATA: IRC Board meeting ** 1700 UTC 2009-06-04 **
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:09:09PM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: ** Note the different date and time! The change was necessary to accommodate some of the Board members for this month. The Board's schedule may change after elections and appointments are complete, to make sure all members can attend as often as possible. The Board is holding its monthly public meeting on Thursday, June 4, 2009, at 1700 UTC on IRC Freenode. For this meeting, the public is invited to do the following: And I apologize for the subject error -- the correct date is listed in the message body. 2009-06-04, at UTC 1700. Paul -- fedora-announce-list mailing list fedora-announce-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-announce-list
One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release
A late discovered and just potentially fixed anaconda storage bug[1] has necessitated another week slip of our schedule. The change is important but invasive enough to require re-validating our storage tests. We were already late in producing the Release Candidate and there is not enough time to produce another one and validate it in time for next Tuesday's release date. Therefor we have decided to enact another week long slip of the release. This gives us time to create a second release candidate and fully validate it and hand it off to the mirrors in plenty of time to sync up for the new release date of June 9th. As much as we regret slipping, we also wish to avoid easily trigger-able bugs in our release, particularly in software that cannot be fixed with a 0-day update. At this time we would only accept tag requests for critical issues. [1]: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500808 -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-announce-list mailing list fedora-announce-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-announce-list
Which RPM does mergerepo prefer?
Hi, I have attached an external repo to a build tag (Just trying out some hand-built RPMs). Now, if an RPM is present *both* in the build tag as well as the external repo, which one does mergerepos pick? Is the decision based on version comparison (the greater version wins), or does the one in the build tag always get preference over the external repo (irrespective of the version)? If it is the latter, how do I tell mergerepos to prefer external repo over the build tag? (or atleast use version comparisons rather than preferring build tag) Jitesh -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list
Re: Which RPM does mergerepo prefer?
Jitesh Shah wrote: Hi, I have attached an external repo to a build tag (Just trying out some hand-built RPMs). Now, if an RPM is present *both* in the build tag as well as the external repo, which one does mergerepos pick? It picks the rpm in the build tag (the local rpm). Is the decision based on version comparison (the greater version wins), or does the one in the build tag always get preference over the external repo (irrespective of the version)? The one in the build tag always wins. This is consistent with normal Koji tag inheritance, which is a depth-first, first-match-wins search. Koji never compares NVRs. If it is the latter, how do I tell mergerepos to prefer external repo over the build tag? (or atleast use version comparisons rather than preferring build tag) If you want to use the version from the external repo, untag any builds of that package from the local tag and let the external repo version be picked up as the first match. -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list
mock and sha256 rpms
If you use mock for building, then you may be in the position of having the main system rpm use sha256 checksums (e.g. on F11) but create chroots that contain an older rpm that does not. If you create a source rpm using the newer rpm and pass it to mock to build in a chroot with an older rpm, you will get an error like the following: DEBUG util.py:256: error: unpacking of archive failed on file /builddir/build/SOURCES/INIT.2008-02-02.tgz;4a1e5c21: cpio: MD5 sum mismatch DEBUG util.py:319: Child returncode was: 1 I think the simplest way to work around this is to have mock pass --nomd5 to rpm when installing the srpm in the chroot. Of course, this is dropping an integrity check, so could possibly add a check outside the chroot to verify this data. Granted, I'm not sure what the best way to do that is. Thoughts? Concerns? -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list
Re: mock and sha256 rpms
On Thu, 28 May 2009, Mike McLean wrote: If you use mock for building, then you may be in the position of having the main system rpm use sha256 checksums (e.g. on F11) but create chroots that contain an older rpm that does not. If you create a source rpm using the newer rpm and pass it to mock to build in a chroot with an older rpm, you will get an error like the following: DEBUG util.py:256: error: unpacking of archive failed on file /builddir/build/SOURCES/INIT.2008-02-02.tgz;4a1e5c21: cpio: MD5 sum mismatch DEBUG util.py:319: Child returncode was: 1 I think the simplest way to work around this is to have mock pass --nomd5 to rpm when installing the srpm in the chroot. Of course, this is dropping an integrity check, so could possibly add a check outside the chroot to verify this data. Granted, I'm not sure what the best way to do that is. Thoughts? Concerns? disable sha256 checksums? %_source_filedigest_algorithm 8 %_binary_filedigest_algorithm 8 -sv -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list
Re: mock and sha256 rpms
On Thursday 28 May 2009 10:49:57 am Mike McLean wrote: If you use mock for building, then you may be in the position of having the main system rpm use sha256 checksums (e.g. on F11) but create chroots that contain an older rpm that does not. If you create a source rpm using the newer rpm and pass it to mock to build in a chroot with an older rpm, you will get an error like the following: DEBUG util.py:256: error: unpacking of archive failed on file /builddir/build/SOURCES/INIT.2008-02-02.tgz;4a1e5c21: cpio: MD5 sum mismatch DEBUG util.py:319: Child returncode was: 1 I think the simplest way to work around this is to have mock pass --nomd5 to rpm when installing the srpm in the chroot. Of course, this is dropping an integrity check, so could possibly add a check outside the chroot to verify this data. Granted, I'm not sure what the best way to do that is. Thoughts? Concerns? -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list Makefile.common has # to make srpms on F-11 and newer for older releases use old hashes # F-10's rpm supports both styles F-9 is the only current release # outside of rhel that needs old hasnes ifeq ($(DISTVAR),rhel) RPM_DEFINES := $(RPM_DEFINES) \ --define _source_filedigest_algorithm md5 \ --define _binary_filedigest_algorithm md5 endif ifeq ($(DISTVAL),9) RPM_DEFINES := $(RPM_DEFINES) \ --define _source_filedigest_algorithm md5 \ --define _binary_filedigest_algorithm md5 endif this will allow you to create useable srpms with make srpm for scratch building Dennis signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list
Makefile.common problem
This ticket was filed in infrastructure's trac. I've been told this is
actually where it should go::
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1412
Makefile.common currently causes build failures when doing make local
with a package containing a noarch subpackage.
The problem is on line 38: LOCALARCH := $(if $(shell grep -i
'^BuildArch:.*noarch' $(SPECFILE)), noarch, $(shell uname -m))
First, it cannot grep noarch in this way now, second, there should be
$(shell rpm --eval %{_arch}) instead of $(shell uname -m).
As discussed on #fedora-devel with Toshio and Adam Jackson, this should
be now probably changed to plain: LOCALARCH := $(shell rpm --eval %{_arch})
For noarch only packages this means they'll be built in a $arch
directory, but that's not an issue IMHO.
...it would be nice to fix this soon, I indeed spent some time looking
around what happens to find out why my noarch subpackages fail locally
and build fine in Koji -- would like to spare this time for others;)
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Re: Makefile.common problem
Toshio Kuratomi (a.bad...@gmail.com) said:
As discussed on #fedora-devel with Toshio and Adam Jackson, this should
be now probably changed to plain: LOCALARCH := $(shell rpm --eval
%{_arch})
For noarch only packages this means they'll be built in a $arch
directory, but that's not an issue IMHO.
...it would be nice to fix this soon, I indeed spent some time looking
around what happens to find out why my noarch subpackages fail locally
and build fine in Koji -- would like to spare this time for others;)
Seems reasonable - applied.
Bill
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Re: Broken dependencies in Fedora 12 Development - 2009-05-22
On 05/23/2009 12:26 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: Your following packages in the repository suffer from broken dependencies: package: gnote-0.1.2-2.fc12.i586 from dist-f12-build-current-i386 Fixed by building a new upstream release - gnote 0.4.0 Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
gnaughty is a hot babe
Hi My packaging survey turned up a interesting suggestion https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-May/msg01809.html We don't currently have any guidelines covering this but considering the Debian action to hot babe http://lwn.net/Articles/113644/ I wanted to asked first, is this allowed in Fedora? Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: gnaughty is a hot babe
Michael Fleming mflem...@thatfleminggent.com wrotes: MF Hm. interesting case. MF I've got no problem with it. Unlike hot-babe there's nothing even MF remotely resembling depiction here. personally I am torn between 'go' and 'no-go' the guidelines says: Content must not be pornographic, or contain nudity, whether animated, simulated, or photographed. There are better places on the Internet to get porn. my pro: this package is free of pornographic content. hotbabe isn't free of this content. my contra: it helps you to get this stuff. An instigator for a murder is guilty like the murderer himself! I created a review with the FE-LEGAL blocker, because I didn't see this email. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen aus dem schönen Hainzell Simon Wesp The G in GNU stands for GNU http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SimonWesp signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: gnaughty is a hot babe
I've got no problem with it. Unlike hot-babe there's nothing even remotely resembling depiction here. It's essentially a download tool a la aria2/d4x/gwget with a particular focus/niche and in my opinion fairly innocuous. The author is pretty up-front about what it is and what it's for - if that's reflected in the %description then the odds on it being installed accidentally would be fairly low. And it looks like we have a precedent... https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/p0rn-comfort -- Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: gnaughty is a hot babe
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 03:13:32PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi My packaging survey turned up a interesting suggestion https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-May/msg01809.html We don't currently have any guidelines covering this but considering the Debian action to hot babe http://lwn.net/Articles/113644/ I wanted to asked first, is this allowed in Fedora? It seems pretty clear-cut based on the existing guidelines and practice. The guidelines say: code is permitted (assuming, of course, that it has an open source compatible license, is not legally questionable, etc.), only some kinds of content are permissable which seems to imply that /all/ code is permitted provided that it's open source and not legally questionable (and there doesn't seem to be any suggestion that this fails either of those tests). Further, one of the categories of banned content other than porn is Religious texts, but Fedora includes SWORD, which is code (but with no content) designed to handle the bible, so it would appear that packages that are intended to handle, but do not include, banned content, are OK. Besides which, there's always the possibility that someone could use the gnaughty code as a base for a downloader for different content - free software isn't limited by its original author's intentions, and shouldn't be tainted by them either. Ewan -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Make Fedora 11 use vx800 chipset correctly
Hi! Here is my problem: I am trying to Fedora LIVE USB boot properly X on vx800 chipset/Chrome9 integrated GPU on VED8900 netbook (VIA OpenBook reference design). Default driver \openchrome\ because of unsupported vx800 can\'t do that. Only some snv version of this driver can boot X correctly. But it is only one part of prolem: using boot option video=vesafb vga=791, mouse cursor goes invisible. Is there any brutal option how to properly boot X with vesa driver, install Fedora, then make openchrome svn installation? Is Fedora planning to make for VIA graphic chipset autoconfiguration utility? It would be very very useful. Kinds, Kristaps -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: gnaughty is a hot babe
Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) boche...@fedoraproject.org wrotes: MB And it looks like we have a precedent... MB https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/p0rn-comfort mh, cool! ;-) -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen aus dem schönen Hainzell Simon Wesp The G in GNU stands for GNU http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SimonWesp signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Who wants a pony ?
On 5/28/09, Marcela Maslanova mmasl...@redhat.com wrote: On 05/28/2009 12:44 PM, Kushal Das wrote: Hi all, If you want one, review https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503021 Kushal It hope in different kind of pony but I'll take the review. -- Marcela Mašláňová BaseOS team Brno What do ponies have to do with this? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: gnaughty is a hot babe
On 05/28/2009 03:23 PM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3d) wrote: Would a cc to legal be in order? As a just in case. It is blocking FE-Legal already. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503013 Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Make Fedora 11 use vx800 chipset correctly
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 11:18 +, Kristaps Viesalgs wrote: Hi! Here is my problem: I am trying to Fedora LIVE USB boot properly X on vx800 chipset/Chrome9 integrated GPU on VED8900 netbook (VIA OpenBook reference design). Default driver \openchrome\ because of unsupported vx800 can\'t do that. Only some snv version of this driver can boot X correctly. Assuming snv means svn, I defer to the opinion of the openchrome maintainer on this point. We regularly ship svn snapshots of the openchrome driver, but we seem to be on one from March 21. Don't know why it hasn't been updated yet. But it is only one part of prolem: using boot option video=vesafb vga=791, mouse cursor goes invisible. Is there any brutal option how to properly boot X with vesa driver, install Fedora, then make openchrome svn installation? vesafb is garbage. Don't use it. If you install with 'xdriver=vesa', the installer will write out a minimal config file setting the X driver to vesa. Is Fedora planning to make for VIA graphic chipset autoconfiguration utility? It would be very very useful. Why would we do that when we could just package a version of the driver that just works? - ajax signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Make Fedora 11 use vx800 chipset correctly
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 10:48 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 11:18 +, Kristaps Viesalgs wrote: Hi! Here is my problem: I am trying to Fedora LIVE USB boot properly X on vx800 chipset/Chrome9 integrated GPU on VED8900 netbook (VIA OpenBook reference design). Default driver \openchrome\ because of unsupported vx800 can\'t do that. Only some snv version of this driver can boot X correctly. Assuming snv means svn, I defer to the opinion of the openchrome maintainer on this point. We regularly ship svn snapshots of the openchrome driver, but we seem to be on one from March 21. Don't know why it hasn't been updated yet. Actually, having looked closer at the package, I see: # 1106:1122 - VX800 (PCI_CHIP_VT3353) alias pcivideo:v1106d1122sv*sd*bc*sc*i* openchrome Which would seem to indicate that it _does_ support this chip. Perhaps you could explain what goes wrong when trying to run X on it? The /var/log/Xorg.0.log file from trying to run it would be informative. - ajax signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting
On 05/27/2009 01:24 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2009-05-27 at 15:07 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: I can't wait to see how we depsolve through: yum update: - foo is updated and recommends bar - bar conflicts with baz which is also in the update but I'm sure we'll muddle through - provided this is included in upstream rpm. seems obvious to me that, in that case, bar should simply not be installed (possibly yum could print a note of what happened). That may be obvious but I think it makes a lot more work. Instead of simply having a possible dependency where the suggestion is either used or not depending on a config file option, you have a dependency that must be kept separate from the normal dependencies so that you know you can get rid of it (and it's dependencies) if a conflict arises. -Toshio -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Make Fedora 11 use vx800 chipset correctly
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 10:48 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: Is Fedora planning to make for VIA graphic chipset autoconfiguration utility? It would be very very useful. Why would we do that when we could just package a version of the driver that just works? Or to put it a different way, we already have a VIA graphic chipset autoconfiguration utility - it's the driver detection code in the X server. As an added bonus, it works for lots of other chipsets too! :) As Adam implied, the openchrome maintainer for Fedora, Xavier Bachelot, is actually also the main upstream developer of openchrome too, so he would presumably be aware of this issue - perhaps you could email him (his email address is in the package info) and see what his take is? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Agenda for the 2009-05-26 Packaging Committee meeting
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 07:54 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On 05/27/2009 01:24 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2009-05-27 at 15:07 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: I can't wait to see how we depsolve through: yum update: - foo is updated and recommends bar - bar conflicts with baz which is also in the update but I'm sure we'll muddle through - provided this is included in upstream rpm. seems obvious to me that, in that case, bar should simply not be installed (possibly yum could print a note of what happened). That may be obvious but I think it makes a lot more work. Instead of simply having a possible dependency where the suggestion is either used or not depending on a config file option, you have a dependency that must be kept separate from the normal dependencies so that you know you can get rid of it (and it's dependencies) if a conflict arises. ah, I see what you mean - you're not saying the problem is deciding what yum should do, but in the actual implementation. Gotcha. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release
A late discovered and just potentially fixed anaconda storage bug[1] has necessitated another week slip of our schedule. The change is important but invasive enough to require re-validating our storage tests. We were already late in producing the Release Candidate and there is not enough time to produce another one and validate it in time for next Tuesday's release date. Therefor we have decided to enact another week long slip of the release. This gives us time to create a second release candidate and fully validate it and hand it off to the mirrors in plenty of time to sync up for the new release date of June 9th. As much as we regret slipping, we also wish to avoid easily trigger-able bugs in our release, particularly in software that cannot be fixed with a 0-day update. At this time we would only accept tag requests for critical issues. [1]: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=500808 -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-devel-announce mailing list fedora-devel-annou...@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-announce-- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: gnaughty is a hot babe
On 05/28/2009 01:06 PM, Simon Wesp wrote: Michael Flemingmflem...@thatfleminggent.com wrotes: MF Hm. interesting case. MF I've got no problem with it. Unlike hot-babe there's nothing even MF remotely resembling depiction here. personally I am torn between 'go' and 'no-go' the guidelines says: Content must not be pornographic, or contain nudity, whether animated, simulated, or photographed. There are better places on the Internet to get porn. my pro: this package is free of pornographic content. hotbabe isn't free of this content. Why quote the guidline if it clearly doesn't apply in this case? my contra: it helps you to get this stuff. An instigator for a murder is guilty like the murderer himself! Murder is a crime, pornography isn't so this comparison doesn't make much sense. Also Firefox helps you to get this stuff too so if that's a reason for banning this package then you'd have to ban a lot of other software from Fedora too. I don't see much of a controversy here. The package doesn't try to deceive anyone about it's intentions and doesn't contain any objectionable material itself. Regards, Dennis -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Plans for tomorrow's (20090529) FESCo meeting
Well, I have nothing on the agenda for tomorrow's meeting at this point. Thus, the entire meeting taking place at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting will be an open floor, unless someone comes up with something to discuss between now and then :). -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Make Fedora 11 use vx800 chipset correctly
Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 10:48 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: Is Fedora planning to make for VIA graphic chipset autoconfiguration utility? It would be very very useful. Why would we do that when we could just package a version of the driver that just works? Or to put it a different way, we already have a VIA graphic chipset autoconfiguration utility - it's the driver detection code in the X server. As an added bonus, it works for lots of other chipsets too! :) As Adam implied, the openchrome maintainer for Fedora, Xavier Bachelot, is actually also the main upstream developer of openchrome too, so he would presumably be aware of this issue - perhaps you could email him (his email address is in the package info) and see what his take is? It's true I'm involved with the openchrome project, but I'm not really a developer, and certainly not the main one, I'm unfortunately not skilled enough. I'll take this opportunity to outline that the openchrome project is severely understaffed, and if anyone is looking into getting involved with an X driver development, there is plenty to do to help us, either on the 2D driver, but also on the 3D driver (Chrome9 chips are not supported at all, it would be nice to work on a Gallium3D driver someday) and on the kernel (Chrome9 DRM needs to be reviewed and integrated). Especially, if you have interested in the OLPC project, the X0-1.5 will be based on a VIA chip soon to be supported by openchrome, so anyone willing to lend a hand is welcome. Regards, Xavier -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
[Bug 502307] Review Request:sil-charis-compact-fonts - A version of Charis SIL with tighter line spacing
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[Bug 502565] CVE-2006-1861 CVE-2007-2754 Multiple freetype1 vulnerabilities [Fedora rawhide]
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[Bug 493479] Review Request: woodardworks-laconic-fonts - An artistic and minimal sans-serif font family
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[Bug 493479] Review Request: woodardworks-laconic-fonts - An artistic and minimal sans-serif font family
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[Bug 502307] Review Request:sil-charis-compact-fonts - A version of Charis SIL with tighter line spacing
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[Bug 493479] Review Request: woodardworks-laconic-fonts - An artistic and minimal sans-serif font family
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[Bug 493479] Review Request: woodardworks-laconic-fonts - An artistic and minimal sans-serif font family
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[Bug 493479] Review Request: woodardworks-laconic-fonts - An artistic and minimal sans-serif font family
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[Bug 493479] Review Request: woodardworks-laconic-fonts - An artistic and minimal sans-serif font family
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[Bug 502565] CVE-2006-1861 CVE-2007-2754 Multiple freetype1 vulnerabilities [Fedora rawhide]
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[Bug 502565] CVE-2006-1861 CVE-2007-2754 Multiple freetype1 vulnerabilities [Fedora rawhide]
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[Bug 490888] All fonts are monospace after upgrade to fontconfig-2.6.99.behdad-3
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[Bug 491604] [mai_IN] application showing error * wants to Install a font
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Re: My Introduction
On Wed, 27 May 2009, Sijis Aviles wrote: Hi Mike, I anticipate being available ~10hr/week. I have read through that document. I created a Fedora Account (ID: sijis) a few days ago and i've been lurking in #fedora-admin too. I'm just observing and getting acquainted on what's going on. I plan on attending the meeting on Thursday afternoon. Excellent, see you at the meeting. Make sure to make yourself known online. -Mike See you all there. Sijis On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 26 May 2009, Sijis Aviles wrote: Hey all. My name is Sijis Aviles and I'm a Systems Engineer living in Chicago, IL. I've been using linux for about 5 years now, and became an RHCE about a 1 1/2 years ago. I started with Debian and then moved to Fedora during the F7 release. My experiences are primarily with scripting and web technologies: PHP, Batch, VB, Bash, HTML/CSS and some Perl, C/C++. I'm currently learning Python. I love to learn and figure out how things work. Challenges are always fun and I'm not afraid to ask questions or for help. I think I'd like to participate with the web, noc or tools FIGs. I hope I can be of help and continue the Fedora tradition. Sijis Welcome Sijis! How much time / week are you interested in participating? Also have you seen - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted -Mike ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: [PATCH] Add requested redirects for release notes.
On Wed, 27 May 2009, Ricky Zhou wrote: On 2009-05-27 10:00:21 PM, Ricky Zhou wrote: +Redirect /release-notes/f11preview /release-notes/f11 +Redirect /release-notes/f10preview /release-notes/f10 Actually, make that: +Redirect permanent /release-notes/f11preview /release-notes/f11 +Redirect permanent /release-notes/f10preview /release-notes/f10 I'm wondering if we should: RewriteRule ^/release-notes/f10preview(.*) /release-notes/f10$1 [R,L] RewriteRule ^/release-notes/f11preview(.*) /release-notes/f11$1 [R,L] What do you think? -Mike ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: [PATCH] Add requested redirects for release notes.
On Thu, 28 May 2009, Ricky Zhou wrote: On 2009-05-28 09:22:09 AM, Mike McGrath wrote: I'm wondering if we should: RewriteRule ^/release-notes/f10preview(.*) /release-notes/f10$1 [R,L] RewriteRule ^/release-notes/f11preview(.*) /release-notes/f11$1 [R,L] What do you think? The plain Redirect will actually work as well, they were pretty smart about designing it, so it'll redirect /release-notes/f11preview/blah.html to /release-notes/f11/blah: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_alias.html#redirect K, then +1 from me. We need one more +1 if anyone is so inclined. -Mike ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Meeting Log - 2009-05-28
20:00 -!- ricky changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure Meeting - who's here? 20:00 skvidal w00t 20:00 skvidal w00t 20:00 -!- sijis [n=si...@adsl-75-58-82-242.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:01 * mmcgrath is sort of here 20:01 mmcgrath sijis: this is where you say i'm here :-P 20:01 sijis i'm here. 20:01 * ke4qqq is quasi-here 20:01 * skvidal is playing bug slave 20:01 * tmz watches from the peanut gallery 20:01 ricky Grr, annoying time for Firefox to crash 20:02 * abadger1999 waves 20:02 * dgilmore is here 20:02 ricky f13, lmacken, SmootherFrOgZ, jds2001, G_work, anybody I forgot: ping 20:02 * dgilmore slaps ricky 20:02 ricky dgilmore: Oops, sorry :-) 20:03 -!- inode0 [n=ino...@fedora/inode0] has quit Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) 20:03 ricky We have no meeting tickets today, so I guess we can just go through the release tickets instead 20:03 ricky https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/9 20:03 -!- inode0 [n=ino...@fedora/inode0] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:03 ricky .ticket 1387 20:03 zodbot ricky: #1387 (New Website) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1387 20:04 ricky Everything's pretty much ready there, test site at http://publictest1.fedoraproject.org/fedoraproject.org/ 20:04 * mdomsch waits for a concall to start 20:04 * ianweller lurks 20:04 ricky .ticket 1390 20:04 skvidal ricky: well, the release isn't finished yet 20:04 zodbot ricky: #1390 (Verify permissions) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1390 20:04 skvidal ricky: minor issue 20:04 skvidal ricky: :) 20:05 ricky Heh, yeah - the once the images are ready, we need to do one more check of the links. 20:05 ricky .ticket 1391 20:05 -!- biertie [n=b...@91.181.251.152] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:05 zodbot ricky: #1391 (Add MirrorManager redirects) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1391 20:05 ricky I think mdomsch got all of those back during the Alpha release. Feel free to close if it's all set 20:06 mdomsch ricky, the follow-up is they need to be dropped on release day 20:06 mdomsch so please leave it open 20:06 ricky mdomsch: Ah, will do. Will you be around to do that on release day? 20:06 mdomsch yep 20:06 ricky Cool 20:06 ricky .ticket 1392 20:06 zodbot ricky: #1392 (RHIS Communication) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1392 20:07 ricky mmcgrath: You've got that one, right? 20:07 mmcgrath ricky: yep, and it should be just fine. 20:07 ricky Excellent 20:08 ricky .ticket 1393 20:08 zodbot ricky: #1393 (Infrastructure Change Freeze) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1393 20:08 -!- inode0 [n=ino...@fedora/inode0] has quit Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) 20:08 ricky This is running until June 10th now 20:08 -!- inode0 [n=ino...@fedora/inode0] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:08 ricky .ticket 1394 20:08 zodbot ricky: #1394 (Common Issues on the wiki) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1394 20:09 -!- rdieter [n=rdie...@fedora/rdieter] has quit Remote closed the connection 20:09 ricky ianweller: I suspect that there will be a bunch of wiki changes other than the common issues page - would you mind taking that one? ^ 20:09 -!- opuk [n=k...@pipe.intertubez.net] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:09 ianweller surrre. 20:09 ianweller i'll be around on release day now 20:09 ianweller i just have to bump a global template 20:09 ricky Nice :-) Go ahead and accept it in trac, then 20:10 ricky .ticket 1395 20:10 zodbot ricky: #1395 (Lessons Learned) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1395 20:10 ricky Does anybody have anything to bring up from previous releases that we should keep an eye on? 20:10 ricky It's only been getting smoother and smoother, as far as I've seen 20:10 ianweller double check the links? 20:11 ricky Definitely, yes ;-) 20:11 ianweller :) 20:11 ricky mdomsch: Are we doing anything differently to try to get the bit flip on time? 20:12 mdomsch ricky, just bitflipping earlier I hope 20:12 mdomsch to give mirrors enough time to sync and catch it 20:12 ricky Are people taking advantage of the fullfilelist now, or is that still being worked out? 20:13 mdomsch still being worked out 20:14 ricky Cool, thanks 20:14 sijis i read in the list that doing the bit-flip 6.5 hours ahead of time would work. 20:14 mdomsch sijis, yes, I think so 20:15 -!- openpercept [n=openp...@fedora/openpercept] has quit Remote closed the connection 20:16 ricky Any other lessons learned? We've pretty much had no trouble with load ever since the wiki migration 20:16 ricky mmcgrath: Do we still do any manual caching of specific wiki pages? 20:17
Re: [PATCH] Add requested redirects for release notes.
+1 from me On May 28, 2009 8:05 PM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 28 May 2009, Ricky Zhou wrote: On 2009-05-28 09:22:09 AM, Mike McGrath wrote: I'm won... K, then +1 from me. We need one more +1 if anyone is so inclined. -Mike ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fed... ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: remove old video torrents
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Re: remove old video torrents
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 12:03:39AM -0400, Jon Stanley wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Nigel Jones nigjo...@redhat.com wrote: Also note, you need to send some of the steaks to Australia... And some to NYC. You all know of my standing offer. Any time anyone in FI is on Austin, drop me a line - the grill will be hot and the beverages cold. -- Matt Domsch Technology Strategist, Dell Office of the CTO linux.dell.com www.dell.com/linux ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: remove old video torrents
I want to move the videos (ogg and avi files) currently hosted only on torrent.fp.o, to alt.fp.o/pub/alt/videos/ with the other videos. I have already copied the content over. As long as I'm removing torrent content, let me suggest a few more. :-) ccLiveContent-1.0-i386 Posted August 2007. No seeders. ccLiveContent-2.0-1202964485.iso ccLiveContent-2.0-FINAL.iso Posted Feb 2008. 3 seeders, but no links from the torrent.fp.o HTML page. Fedora 11 Alpha. No links from torrent.fp.o HTML page. Amazingly, some of these have as many as 11 seeders and 6 downloaders. No reason to encourage downloads of this anymore though. Fedora 11 Beta. _Is_ linked from t.fp.o HTML page. 1-17 seeders, 0-2 downloaders. Same reason as Alpha - there are newer bits available to test with. Fedora 11 Snap 1. _Is_ linked from t.fp.o HTML page. 1-6 seeders, 0-3 downloaders. Pre-dates the Preview release. Now for something maybe more controversial. Fedora 8. _Is_ linked from t.fp.o HTML page. 1-35 seeders, 0-8 downloaders. F8 is EOL, and still posted on archive.fp.o. I also note that the map link besides each torrent on the t.fp.o HTML page is broken. But hey, that's only present for the F8 and ccLiveContent bits, which, if we nuke, then we don't have a problem there either. :-) Thanks, Matt the pruner -- Matt Domsch Technology Strategist, Dell Office of the CTO linux.dell.com www.dell.com/linux ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Re: Wikipedia license change
On Tue, 26 May 2009 17:29:20 -0400 Tom \spot\ Callaway tcall...@redhat.com wrote: I know Richard reads fedora-legal-list, so I'll wait for him to chime in, but in the past, he's expressed that he would very much like for us to move the wiki from OPL to CC-BY-SA. Such a decision should be made by Fedora qua Fedora, consistent with Fedora's licensing guidelines and general rationality (which is true of the current situation with the use of the OPL and would be true if the license of choice were CC-BY-SA instead). FWIW, my personal view is that switching from OPL to CC-BY-SA makes a lot of sense. In my opinion, the OPL is now a fairly dated license with some flaws. That alone isn't a reason not to use it, for a content author who happens to like it, but the availability of CC-BY-SA shows that there is a license with the same desirable policies (from Fedora's perspective) that is the result of more careful legal drafting. As others have pointed out, CC-BY-SA is today a more widely used license, has a track record of responsible revisions, and the author of the OPL himself would seem to be in favor of OPL users moving on to CC licenses. I've heard one or two people in the Fedora docs community say that CC-BY-SA permits combination, or relicensing, under a broad set of licenses with similar policies including the OPL. That is actually not correct (at least for version 3.0 of CC-BY-SA). CC-BY-SA 3.0 says: You may Distribute or Publicly Perform an Adaptation only under the terms of: (i) this License; (ii) a later version of this License with the same License Elements as this License; (iii) a Creative Commons jurisdiction license (either this or a later license version) that contains the same License Elements as this License (e.g., Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 US)); (iv) a Creative Commons Compatible License. A Creative Commons Compatible License is defined as a license that is listed at http://creativecommons.org/compatiblelicenses that has been approved by Creative Commons as being essentially equivalent to this License, including, at a minimum, because that license: (i) contains terms that have the same purpose, meaning and effect as the License Elements of this License; and, (ii) explicitly permits the relicensing of adaptations of works made available under that license under this License or a Creative Commons jurisdiction license with the same License Elements as this License. However, http://creativecommons.org/compatiblelicenses says that to date, Creative Commons has not approved any licenses for compatibility, and I don't think the OPL would meet the given standard anyway. -- Richard E. Fontana Open Source Licensing and Patent Counsel Red Hat, Inc. ___ Fedora-legal-list mailing list Fedora-legal-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legal-list
Re: What software is missing in the Fedora repository?
On 05/28/2009 11:25 AM, net foss wrote: Ns is a discrete event simulator targeted at networking research. Added to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging_Survey_May_2009 Thanks. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...
Kevin Kofler wrote: Steve Underwood wrote: I thought most people wanted to get rid of pulseaudio. Only because people like you perpetuate some stupid myth that PulseAudio is evil. Its a very troublesome program with poor documentation, and little output to help you resolve problems. If you get it working it seems to offer you nothing you didn't have before you had pulseaudio. It makes sound just work, without apps fighting for the sound device (or multiple incompatible sound servers all trying to fix this fighting for the sound device). No more annoyances like games failing to play sound because some GUI event sound was still being played when they tried opening the sound device. (I've seen, or rather heard, that happen way too often in pre-PulseAudio times.) Most sound cards don't do mixing in hardware. A few do support it, but the ALSA driver doesn't. Only few sound cards can do it and have ALSA support for it. So PulseAudio is a mixing solution which works for everyone. Kevin Kofler Strange, I've never had a sound card that didn't have a hardware mixer. And the on-board Intel hd audio that I'm using now does too. I don't think PulseAudio is evil, it just doesn't bring anything to the party. Regards, John -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:08:37AM -0700, john wendel wrote: Kevin Kofler wrote: Steve Underwood wrote: I thought most people wanted to get rid of pulseaudio. Only because people like you perpetuate some stupid myth that PulseAudio is evil. Its a very troublesome program with poor documentation, and little output to help you resolve problems. If you get it working it seems to offer you nothing you didn't have before you had pulseaudio. It makes sound just work, without apps fighting for the sound device (or multiple incompatible sound servers all trying to fix this fighting for the sound device). No more annoyances like games failing to play sound because some GUI event sound was still being played when they tried opening the sound device. (I've seen, or rather heard, that happen way too often in pre-PulseAudio times.) Most sound cards don't do mixing in hardware. A few do support it, but the ALSA driver doesn't. Only few sound cards can do it and have ALSA support for it. So PulseAudio is a mixing solution which works for everyone. Kevin Kofler Strange, I've never had a sound card that didn't have a hardware mixer. And the on-board Intel hd audio that I'm using now does too. I don't think PulseAudio is evil, it just doesn't bring anything to the party. You're mixing up things :-) Mixer usually means the device/application you use to control volume level settings. In this context hardware mixing meant mixing up multiple audio streams (from different applications) and all of them playing at once. Your on-board Intel hd audio cannot mix audio streams in hardware.. I think. Some Creative cards can do that. -- Pasi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What software is missing in the Fedora repository?
sounds good! thank you. Can I have a link for that review? 2009/5/28 Simon Wesp cassmod...@fedoraproject.org Simon Wesp cassmod...@fedoraproject.org wrotes: SW very interessting... I saw this 2 days ago on gnomefiles.org SW There is a gap in the guidelines, for a case like that! SW mh, I will take a look in it. @ Jens, I created a review a few minutes ago. I don't know if it is allowed in Fedora, because i didn't find a hint in the Guidelines, but I know who knows best... The Fedora Reviewers and perhaps the legal team. I will create a legal blocker for this review! -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen aus dem schönen Hainzell Simon Wesp The G in GNU stands for GNU http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SimonWesp -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What software is missing in the Fedora repository?
On 05/28/2009 04:09 PM, Jens Kaddelbach wrote: sounds good! thank you. Can I have a link for that review? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503013 Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What software is missing in the Fedora repository?
Jens Kaddelbach j.kaddelb...@googlemail.com wrotes: JK sounds good! thank you. Can I have a link for that review? mh, well The problem is for me, that the guidelines says: Content must not be pornographic, or contain nudity, whether animated, simulated, or photographed. There are better places on the Internet to get porn. This package comes without pornographic content, but it help you to get this content. This problem is like the duplicated zlib problematic for rsync and zsync. Is a modified zlib a duplicate of zlib? Or is it is own fork? Or whatever? The problem is (for me) that it is definitly pornographic, because it helps you to get this stuff. You know that a instigator for a murder is guilty like the murderer himself! so this is for me forbidden and should not be allowed in fedora. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen aus dem schönen Hainzell Simon Wesp The G in GNU stands for GNU http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SimonWesp signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...
2009/5/28 Andras Simon sza...@gmail.com: On 5/28/09, Sharpe, Sam J sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com wrote: Andras Simon wrote: On 5/28/09, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Steve Underwood wrote: I thought most people wanted to get rid of pulseaudio. Only because people like you perpetuate some stupid myth that PulseAudio is evil. This is not true (and is an insult, I'd think). [...] So PulseAudio is a mixing solution which works for everyone. You must be joking. You will probably find that the people who want to get rid of pulseaudio are the vocal minority. For the rest of us, we don't complain because it works perfectly fine for us. You may or may not be right; unless you have numbers, it's really a question of faith. But that was not the question here. PA works for the majority is a very different (and possibly true) statement from PA works for everyone, which is obviously false, and Most people wanted to get rid of pulseaudio only because people like you perpetuate some stupid myth that PulseAudio is evil which is worse. It's of course hard to find reliable numbers anywhere... maybe Smolt could be put to fetch some, though (It already reports if SELinux is enabled, for example). For what it's worth, I've used pulseaudio in Fedora on at least five computers of various ages (built roughly 2000-2008), none of which have had any major trouble with pulseaudio. I quite like pulseaudio actually... Good for you! I like it, too! :-) -- Joonas Sarajärvi mue...@gmail.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora and jabber MSN gateway
On Thu, 28 May 2009 08:52:08 +0200 wwp subscr...@free.fr wrote: Hello there, does anybody here has ever set up a jabber daemon with a full-featured MSN gateway on a Fedora? Are there helpful howto's online for that? Yes, I have one running the MSN Python Transport - It's no different than installing other transports/components, the install docs in the package outline what needs to be done - there may be some variations depending on what XMPP server software you're running. My package is here if you're interested (also F9 / CentOS flavours available for i386 too) http://www.thatfleminggent.com/packages/fedora/10/x86_64/repoview/pymsn-t.html Regards, Cheers, Michael Fleming. -- Michael Fleming mflem...@thatfleminggent.com - (EMail/XMPP/Jabber) WWW: http://www.thatfleminggent.com Fedora / Red Hat Packages: http://www.thatfleminggent.com/rpm-packages Twitter: http://twitter.com/thatfleminggent -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...
Sharpe, Sam J wrote: Andras Simon wrote: On 5/28/09, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Steve Underwood wrote: I thought most people wanted to get rid of pulseaudio. Only because people like you perpetuate some stupid myth that PulseAudio is evil. This is not true (and is an insult, I'd think). [...] So PulseAudio is a mixing solution which works for everyone. You must be joking. You will probably find that the people who want to get rid of pulseaudio are the vocal minority. For the rest of us, we don't complain because it works perfectly fine for us. Vocal minority makes them sound like a bunch of whining trouble makers. In reality they are the people for whom it didn't work out of the box, because when it doesn't work its so ridiculously painful to figure out what is wrong. No documentation. No debug messages. I quite like pulseaudio actually... Well, its fine when it works. You really wouldn't notice its there, which is how these things should be. Steve -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What software is missing in the Fedora repository?
This package comes without pornographic content, but it help you to get this content. So its no different to the origins of pan ;) which we do ship. The problem is (for me) that it is definitly pornographic, because it helps you to get this stuff. You know that a instigator for a murder is guilty like the murderer himself! so this is for me forbidden and should not be allowed in fedora. Quick get rid of firefox -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
EeePC - Fedora or Ubuntu?
I've got rather annoyed with the Xandros on my EeePC-4G, and am thinking of installing a different OS. I would like to install Fedora, as I am running Fedora or CentOS on all my other machines, but I'm attracted by the fact that there is a version of Ubuntu (eeebuntu) apparently specifically for the EeePC. I suppose there isn't an eeeFedora? Does anyone have an argument for installing Fedora on this very small machine? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: EeePC - Fedora or Ubuntu?
Timothy Murphy ha scritto: I've got rather annoyed with the Xandros on my EeePC-4G, and am thinking of installing a different OS. I would like to install Fedora, Does anyone have an argument for installing Fedora on this very small machine? Hello Timothy, I started with an Ubuntu 9.04 on my eeepc 1000HD, but, (I don't know what,) something was wrong. So I decided to try with F11: I'm very happy! :) IHMO, there are some things to work out : Pulseaudio is a pain, default gnome is a little heavy, (I'm thinking to switch to fluxbux), but I want to say that almost everything was working out of the box. Oh, a kernel problem with the video card i915 and tiling disabled (google for it); but I don't complain : F11 is a preview right now. And, of course, the big deal is I'm feeling at home with my Fedora! ;) Anyway, I think that you can start with a live usb and guve it a try! Ciao Alessandro -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Steve Underwood ste...@coppice.org wrote:
Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
Andras Simon wrote:
On 5/28/09, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
Steve Underwood wrote:
I thought most people wanted to get rid of pulseaudio.
Only because people like you perpetuate some stupid myth that
PulseAudio is
evil.
This is not true (and is an insult, I'd think).
[...]
So PulseAudio is a mixing solution which works for everyone.
You must be joking.
You will probably find that the people who want to get rid of pulseaudio
are the vocal minority. For the rest of us, we don't complain because it
works perfectly fine for us.
Vocal minority makes them sound like a bunch of whining trouble makers. In
reality they are the people for whom it didn't work out of the box, because
when it doesn't work its so ridiculously painful to figure out what is
wrong. No documentation. No debug messages.
In fact, there is no need to remove anything for deactivating pulse audio.
One just need to add ~/.asoundrc to /etc/asound.conf
.
files [
/etc/alsa/pulse-default.conf
~/.asoundrc
]
.
and create a file ~/.asoundrc with the following contents:
pcm.!default {
type hw
card 0
device 0
}
ctl.!default {
type hw
card 0
}
Of course, a sound application (vlc, mplayer, etc.) should not specify pulse
audio as the default in this case (it should use alsa, instead).
I think if we had an option in some menu for deactivating pulseaudio
in a similar (or better) way, we could avoid a lot of traffic in this list.
Although, I really like pulseaudio and have used it since the beginning,
some people seem to be unable to configure/use it appropriately.
Everything needed is in pavucontrol, and one only needs to click
the right mouse button of the mouse onto the stream identifier
to set defaults or redirect the output to some card, but maybe
some folk just did not realize that yet...
--
Paulo Roma Cavalcanti
LCG - UFRJ
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Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...
On Thu, 28 May 2009 09:17:51 -0300 Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: but maybe some folk just did not realize that yet And just how would they realize how simple all that gibberish actually is? It just comes to them in a flash of insight perhaps? Or maybe the zero documentation has something to do with it :-). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...
On 05/28/2009 06:32 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 28 May 2009 09:17:51 -0300 Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: but maybe some folk just did not realize that yet And just how would they realize how simple all that gibberish actually is? It just comes to them in a flash of insight perhaps? Or maybe the zero documentation has something to do with it :-). This seems to be a theme you like but PulseAudio has a lot of details in its website http://pulseaudio.org/ If you have specific questions, join the mailing list and ask or help out and write up some documentation. A recent interview http://jaboutboul.blogspot.com/2009/05/sound-of-fedora-11. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Streaming media server
I currently play my music (which is stored in a file system on a server on my home network) by mounting the filesystem via nfs and playing the files in amarok. However if any disruption to the wireless network occurs, I lose the mount and, as you know, its hell to recover an nfs mount if the network has failed. What I'd like to have is something like a shoutcast server that would serve up my collection over a network connection or somesuch. I installed icecast but it doesn't seem appropriate for playing disk based music collections.. meybe I'm wrong about that. Any suggestions? wcn -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Streaming media server
Wendell Nichols wrote: I currently play my music (which is stored in a file system on a server on my home network) by mounting the filesystem via nfs and playing the files in amarok. However if any disruption to the wireless network occurs, I lose the mount and, as you know, its hell to recover an nfs mount if the network has failed. What I'd like to have is something like a shoutcast server that would serve up my collection over a network connection or somesuch. I installed icecast but it doesn't seem appropriate for playing disk based music collections.. meybe I'm wrong about that. Any suggestions? wcn Use MPD as the player backend plugged into icecast. It works wonderfully (I am listening to it right now actually) and it also have a few good web based front ends for it, plus tons of linux based GUI's if that is your thing, and some good CLI Clients as well. MPD, I believe is in the Fedora repository (I haven't had to look for it in some time) but I do know that icecast has (or had) an oddity in it for Fedora 9 (I haven't tested 10 or 11, but it also only happened on a 64 bit platform) so if you have strangeness of the port for icecast not binding properly, remove the RPM and compile icecast from source. ~Seann . ~Seann smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora and jabber MSN gateway
Hello Michael, On Thu, 28 May 2009 21:30:07 +1000 Michael Fleming mflem...@thatfleminggent.com wrote: On Thu, 28 May 2009 08:52:08 +0200 wwp subscr...@free.fr wrote: Hello there, does anybody here has ever set up a jabber daemon with a full-featured MSN gateway on a Fedora? Are there helpful howto's online for that? Yes, I have one running the MSN Python Transport - It's no different than installing other transports/components, the install docs in the package outline what needs to be done - there may be some variations depending on what XMPP server software you're running. My package is here if you're interested (also F9 / CentOS flavours available for i386 too) http://www.thatfleminggent.com/packages/fedora/10/x86_64/repoview/pymsn-t.html Many thanks for this reply, Michael. I'll give all this a look and hopefully will set up my personal jabber/MSN services. Thanks again! Regards, -- wwp signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Kernel update nuked my machine
Tuesday evening the automatic updater downloaded a kernel update. After rebooting all I get is a totally black screen with GRUB_ in the upper left corner of the screen. It responds to nothing on the keyboard. This is a dual boot Dell machine with FC10 and Windows XP. Any suggestions? Is there something I can do with the rescue CD or is it best to wait for FC11 and try to just do an update from there? Thanks in advance. Herb I now own a boat anchor Smith -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Streaming media server
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Wendell Nichols wc...@shaw.ca wrote: I currently play my music (which is stored in a file system on a server on my home network) by mounting the filesystem via nfs and playing the files in amarok. However if any disruption to the wireless network occurs, I lose the mount and, as you know, its hell to recover an nfs mount if the network has failed. What I'd like to have is something like a shoutcast server that would serve up my collection over a network connection or somesuch. I installed icecast but it doesn't seem appropriate for playing disk based music collections.. meybe I'm wrong about that. Any suggestions? wcn My favorite is ampache, which I intent to finish the review process one day: http://ampache.org/ I have it built here (it is noarch): http://orion.lcg.ufrj.br/RPMS/myrpms-f10-x86_64/repoview/ampache.html -- Paulo Roma Cavalcanti LCG - UFRJ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...
Hi Kevin, Many thanks for your interest to my problem. Sorry, I may not have replied as soon as you'd expect. This is because, after reading your response and others, I tried several things which were suggested to me. But, first, here's my problem: My PC is quite old. It's a Compaq desktop 5100 with A Pentium II running at 800 mHz, 512 MB of RAM and an Intel I810 audio chip. On this PC, I first installed a fedora 9 which worked like a charm until recently. On the gnome desktop, I launch the orca screen reader which I configured to say screen content through the ESpeak speech synthesizer. A month ago, after a yum update, the synth began to drop last syllables of what it had to say. For instance, Welcome to Orca became Welcome to Or. Yesterday, I upgraded the F9 PC to F10 in order to benefit from many enhancements of Orca and the gnome desktop from 2.22 top 2.24. As a result, I don't hear ESpeak anymore. I suspected pulseaudio to be the culprit after doing the following. (1) I booted the PC in runlevel 3, (console only). (2) I logged onto my account and issued the following command: script -c startx (3) After awhile, I could hear the login sound and then orca was launched and brailled Welcome to orca but it did not speak. Also the screen reader continued to braille, it did not say anything. (4) I logged out X and then, after the X server was shut down, I was back to the console. (5) In the typescript file which was generated by script, I read that some actions required me to have increased RT_PRIO or RLIMIT_NICE capabilities. It was suggested to add my user account to the pulse-rt group. (6) I did this by logging as root and entering the command: usermod -a -G pulse-rt my_login Then I logged out from root and back in to my account. (7) I started the gnome desktop but to no avail. Of course, I didn't have the warning I had before but always no speech. (8) I then logged in as root and tried to yum erase pulseaudio. Four dependent packages were also removed. I wrote down their names in order to be able to reinstall them all later. (9) I then logged out root and logged in back to my account and started the gnome desktop. This time, I did not hear the login sound but after awhile, I heard ESpeak saying Welcome to orc. The synth did not finish its sentence but it talked. Problem: This is the only sentence I could hear. Then, orca was totally frozen: no more braille, no more speech, just as if orca was deadlocked somewhere. (10) I reinstalled pusleaudio and its four dependent packages and tried to start gnome again. This time, I heard the login sound but no speech, just like in (7). (11) I finally tried to modify /etc/asound.conf and to create a ~/.asoundrc in my home directory, as suggested by Paulo Cavalcanti. This time, when I started the gnome desktop, I heard the login sound, then Welcome to Orc, ESpeak did not finish and Orca was frozen like in (9). Now, I realize that my problem may not be due to pulseaudio but what should I do to have ESpeak work in F10 like it did in F9 please? Many thanks in advance. Have a nice day. Chris -Original Message- From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Kofler Sent: jeudi 28 mai 2009 00:14 To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ... Delaunay Christophe wrote: What the good way to get rid of pulseaudio on Fedora 10 please? Why do you want to do that in the first place? Chances are removing PulseAudio is not the correct solution for your problem. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What software is missing in the Fedora repository?
Simon Wesp wrote: This problem is like the duplicated zlib problematic for rsync and zsync. No, it isn't. Is a modified zlib a duplicate of zlib? Or is it is own fork? The latter. Or whatever? It's bad design. A package which hacks around into commonly accepted and widely used system libraries is simply hacking around. A proper design would use zlib without modifications, like many other applications do, or to ask zlib's upstream to adopt the changes. Ralf -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: EeePC - Fedora or Ubuntu?
I am using F10 on the EeePC which works ok, I just have problems with wakeup after suspend sometimes. You might also need to install some stuff from rpmfusion to get wireless working. Another distribution to try would be: http://moblin.org/ . It is a bit like Xandros but nicer and is a Fedora fork, so it is very easy to install additional software with yum. It also has a user interface which works pretty good on netbooks. It comes with all the drivers you need for the EeePC. Christof On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 14:00, Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote: I've got rather annoyed with the Xandros on my EeePC-4G, and am thinking of installing a different OS. I would like to install Fedora, as I am running Fedora or CentOS on all my other machines, but I'm attracted by the fact that there is a version of Ubuntu (eeebuntu) apparently specifically for the EeePC. I suppose there isn't an eeeFedora? Does anyone have an argument for installing Fedora on this very small machine? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Delaunay Christophe christophe.delau...@thomson.net wrote: Hi Kevin, Many thanks for your interest to my problem. Sorry, I may not have replied as soon as you'd expect. This is because, after reading your response and others, I tried several things which were suggested to me. But, first, here's my problem: My PC is quite old. It's a Compaq desktop 5100 with A Pentium II running at 800 mHz, 512 MB of RAM and an Intel I810 audio chip. On this PC, I first installed a fedora 9 which worked like a charm until recently. On the gnome desktop, I launch the orca screen reader which I configured to say screen content through the ESpeak speech synthesizer. A month ago, after a yum update, the synth began to drop last syllables of what it had to say. For instance, Welcome to Orca became Welcome to Or. Yesterday, I upgraded the F9 PC to F10 in order to benefit from many enhancements of Orca and the gnome desktop from 2.22 top 2.24. As a result, I don't hear ESpeak anymore. I suspected pulseaudio to be the culprit after doing the following. (1) I booted the PC in runlevel 3, (console only). (2) I logged onto my account and issued the following command: script -c startx (3) After awhile, I could hear the login sound and then orca was launched and brailled Welcome to orca but it did not speak. Also the screen reader continued to braille, it did not say anything. (4) I logged out X and then, after the X server was shut down, I was back to the console. (5) In the typescript file which was generated by script, I read that some actions required me to have increased RT_PRIO or RLIMIT_NICE capabilities. It was suggested to add my user account to the pulse-rt group. (6) I did this by logging as root and entering the command: usermod -a -G pulse-rt my_login Then I logged out from root and back in to my account. (7) I started the gnome desktop but to no avail. Of course, I didn't have the warning I had before but always no speech. (8) I then logged in as root and tried to yum erase pulseaudio. Four dependent packages were also removed. I wrote down their names in order to be able to reinstall them all later. (9) I then logged out root and logged in back to my account and started the gnome desktop. This time, I did not hear the login sound but after awhile, I heard ESpeak saying Welcome to orc. The synth did not finish its sentence but it talked. Problem: This is the only sentence I could hear. Then, orca was totally frozen: no more braille, no more speech, just as if orca was deadlocked somewhere. (10) I reinstalled pusleaudio and its four dependent packages and tried to start gnome again. This time, I heard the login sound but no speech, just like in (7). (11) I finally tried to modify /etc/asound.conf and to create a ~/.asoundrc in my home directory, as suggested by Paulo Cavalcanti. This time, when I started the gnome desktop, I heard the login sound, then Welcome to Orc, ESpeak did not finish and Orca was frozen like in (9). Now, I realize that my problem may not be due to pulseaudio but what should I do to have ESpeak work in F10 like it did in F9 please? Many thanks in advance. Have a nice day. Chris I have never used orca before, but it seems to be working fine here with pulseaudio. The difficult part is to make she stop talking ... I also tried espeak, and it is also reading file names via command line. Did you make a clean install or used some kind of upgrade from F9 to F10? -- Paulo Roma Cavalcanti LCG - UFRJ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kernel update nuked my machine
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:29:23AM -0500, Smith, Herb wrote: Thanks. Is there a separate Rescue CD for FC10 or does the live CD serve that purpose. I haven't found a link to a Rescue CD for 10. You can use the boot.iso found in the images/ folder of any distribution site: http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/10/Fedora/i386/os/images/ -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What /dev is ethernet Webcam
On Wed, 2009-05-27 at 16:31 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: Jim wrote: On 05/26/2009 09:00 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: grammar. ;-) Sorry about my grammar , but i never got past the Third Grade, my family was poor and I had to take up Bank Robbery, it pays better than having a College Ed-U-Ma-cation. Yes, but does Bank Robbery have a better 401K plan? -- Sam Be careful, Now that the government is in the banking business, you know how the politicians hate competition. Les H -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks
Little Laptops With Linux Have Compatibility Issues http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124346723960760371.html#mod=todays_us_personal_journal fyi, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks
Max Pyziur wrote: Little Laptops With Linux Have Compatibility Issues http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124346723960760371.html#mod=todays_us_personal_journal fyi, Max Pyziur p...@brama.com All the netbooks I tried had compatibility problems with other external devices. The netbooks couldn't load the software drivers to let me print to my Canon and Dell printers. I couldn't load pictures over a USB cable from my Canon PowerShot SD750 digital camera. I was able to get my pictures on the machines by plugging a storage card from my camera directly into the netbooks. Yup, I've experienced exactly the same problems. Printers being the worst, of course, since I just use the SD card readers to transfer pictures from the camera. Is there a driver wrapper for printers out there (similar to ndiswrapper)? If not, there should be :P -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks
On Thu, 28 May 2009 09:36:46 -0700 Konstantin Svist wrote: Is there a driver wrapper for printers out there (similar to ndiswrapper)? If not, there should be :P Why stop at printers? I've long believed there should be a generic windows driver layer in linux that provides all the interfaces of windows drivers to the kernel so you could use any windows driver for linux :-). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Tom Horsley tom.hors...@att.net wrote: On Thu, 28 May 2009 09:36:46 -0700 Konstantin Svist wrote: Is there a driver wrapper for printers out there (similar to ndiswrapper)? If not, there should be :P Why stop at printers? I've long believed there should be a generic windows driver layer in linux that provides all the interfaces of windows drivers to the kernel so you could use any windows driver for linux :-). No one ever seems to expect their Mac to use Windows drivers though. -- Fedora 10 (www.pembo13.com) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Streaming media server
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 07:42 -0600, Wendell Nichols wrote: I currently play my music (which is stored in a file system on a server on my home network) by mounting the filesystem via nfs and playing the files in amarok. However if any disruption to the wireless network occurs, I lose the mount and, as you know, its hell to recover an nfs mount if the network has failed. What I'd like to have is something like a shoutcast server that would serve up my collection over a network connection or somesuch. I installed icecast but it doesn't seem appropriate for playing disk based music collections.. meybe I'm wrong about that. Any suggestions? I use mt-daapd which is a simple install. It will serve up any directory/directories of mp3/m4a files as if it were an iTunes program sharing it's files and thus could be accessed by any computer on the LAN capable of using an iTunes music server...like Rhytmbox, iTunes, etc. Unfortunately, the one program that doesn't seem to be able to connect is Amarok but perhaps that is because I give up too easily. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 12:08 -0400, Max Pyziur wrote: Little Laptops With Linux Have Compatibility Issues http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124346723960760371.html#mod=todays_us_personal_journal fyi, I suppose inherent is the assumption that the problems don't happen with Windows and that they are always the Linux software. My experience with my Acer Aspire One was decidedly different. It came with Windows. My USB key and hard drive wouldn't work in Windows but did work with Linux. After I upgraded the BIOS they also worked with Windows. My USB SD card reader doesn't work in Windows so I have to plug into my Linux computer to get pictures off the card and transfer them to Windows. What the author doesn't say is that he has learned to put up with Windows problems and writes as if those problems are unique to Linux. They are not. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F11 release moved to 2009-06-09
Release date has slipped to June 9: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-May/msg00011.html -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks
Why stop at printers? I've long believed there should be a generic windows driver layer in linux that provides all the interfaces of windows drivers to the kernel so you could use any windows driver for linux :-). No one ever seems to expect their Mac to use Windows drivers though. Mac people griping about driver problems is not unusual however. My netbook needs Linux driver wrappers for Windows - at least the wireless only works properly for me in Linux... Alan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can't get updates
On Wednesday 27 May 2009 15:45:45 Antonio M wrote: 2009/5/27 Anne Wilson an...@kde.org: On Wednesday 27 May 2009 15:09:03 François Patte wrote: Anne Wilson a écrit : I'm having great problem after upgrading F9 to F10 (using an install dvd). I get huge numbers of updates downloaded, but then it fails. Did you, before all update yum: yum update yum I forgot that - but I can't: Downloading Packages: http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/updates/testing/10/i38 6/yum-3.2.23-3.fc10.noarch.rpm: [Errno 4] IOError: urlopen error (-2, 'Name or service not known') Trying other mirror. Error Downloading Packages: yum-3.2.23-3.fc10.noarch: failure: yum-3.2.23-3.fc10.noarch.rpm from updates-testing: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try. Anne -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Anne, can you download the yum rpm directly and save on your hard disk??? then by rpm command you should be able to install it... Eventually I got a url for a mirror, found the new yum, downloaded and installed it. I still have the same problem. By now I'm almost convinced that $releasever either isn't set, or is passing a wrong version. Googling seems to add weight to this idea. How do I find the current value of $releasever? If it's wrong, is the correct command SET $releasever = 10 ? Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What /dev is ethernet Webcam
Les wrote: On Wed, 2009-05-27 at 16:31 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: Jim wrote: On 05/26/2009 09:00 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: grammar. ;-) Sorry about my grammar , but i never got past the Third Grade, my family was poor and I had to take up Bank Robbery, it pays better than having a College Ed-U-Ma-cation. Yes, but does Bank Robbery have a better 401K plan? -- Sam Be careful, Now that the government is in the banking business, you know how the politicians hate competition. How is this any different than the competition between bank robbers and politicians (via their thugs called the IRS) that's been going on for years? -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ri...@nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- -Beware of programmers who carry screwdrivers- -- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks
On Thursday 28 May 2009 19:41:12 Konstantin Svist wrote: True, except for one major difference: when your printer doesn't work under Windows, it's usually because you didn't install the driver yet (or installed the wrong one). Unless the printer is at least a few years old, there are always drivers for it. Nope. From time to time there have been windows releases where the old drivers would not work, and no new ones were written. I had a SCSI Black Widow scanner that had to be thrown for just that reason. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 19:22 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 28 May 2009 18:43:33 Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 12:08 -0400, Max Pyziur wrote: Little Laptops With Linux Have Compatibility Issues http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124346723960760371.html#mod=todays_us_per sonal_journal fyi, I suppose inherent is the assumption that the problems don't happen with Windows and that they are always the Linux software. My experience with my Acer Aspire One was decidedly different. +1 It came with Windows. My USB key and hard drive wouldn't work in Windows but did work with Linux. After I upgraded the BIOS they also worked with Windows. Mine came with Lupus (I think) Linux. I removed it almost from day one and installed Fedora 10. My understanding is that it is called 'Linpus' which is derived from Fedora 9 or 10. It is clearly a reduced set of software packages. It seems pretty clear that a serious computer user would probably want a normal Linux distribution installed but for something that is usable off the shelf, it seemed adequate. It was however very useful for developing some alterations to maximize battery life and performance. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 19:53 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 28 May 2009 19:41:12 Konstantin Svist wrote: True, except for one major difference: when your printer doesn't work under Windows, it's usually because you didn't install the driver yet (or installed the wrong one). Unless the printer is at least a few years old, there are always drivers for it. Nope. From time to time there have been windows releases where the old drivers would not work, and no new ones were written. I had a SCSI Black Widow scanner that had to be thrown for just that reason. of course...there is a graveyard for printers and scanners that don't have drivers for Vista. The netbooks however don't come with Vista because they will perform poorly. So Microsoft will sell a crippled version of Windows 7 for netbooks in the future and you can give them more money, the amount of which is determined by how much you are willing to pay for features and performance hit. It's an interesting market...crippleware. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
No sound from Flash (YouTube)
I'm not sure when this broke; it was working at some point. Other sounds work, but Flash gives me nothing but silence. This is 64-bit Fedora 10 with flash-plugin-10.0.22.87-release.i386. Suggestions appreciated. Thanks! -- Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No sound from Flash (YouTube)
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 14:25 -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote: I'm not sure when this broke; it was working at some point. Other sounds work, but Flash gives me nothing but silence. This is 64-bit Fedora 10 with flash-plugin-10.0.22.87-release.i386. Suggestions appreciated. Thanks! -- Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com Have you tried the 64-bit flash plugin at http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.22.87.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz I know it's Alpha - but atleast it works well enough with all the youtube and CBS streaming vids..and it avoids a whole lotta multi-lib issues... -RS -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks
On Thu, 28 May 2009 10:43:33 -0700 Craig White wrote: What the author doesn't say is that he has learned to put up with Windows problems and writes as if those problems are unique to Linux. They are not. Yep. In fact the very first time I ever had a plug play scanner actually function by merely plugging it in was when I plugged in my new HP multi-function box to my fedora 10 system. I almost had a heart attack :-). It didn't just plug play on windows, I had to load updated HP software to get it working there. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No sound from Flash (YouTube)
RS wrote: Have you tried the 64-bit flash plugin at http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.22.87.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz I know it's Alpha - but atleast it works well enough with all the youtube and CBS streaming vids..and it avoids a whole lotta multi-lib issues... Works. Thanks! -- Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks
that's because it's a lot more common for mac drivers to come available with the hardware you buy for your computer. have you ever seen a keyborad, video card, printer or whatever come with a linux driver in the accompanying cd? Arthur Pemberton escreveu: On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Tom Horsley tom.hors...@att.net wrote: On Thu, 28 May 2009 09:36:46 -0700 Konstantin Svist wrote: Is there a driver wrapper for printers out there (similar to ndiswrapper)c If not, there should be :P Why stop at printers? I've long believed there should be a generic windows driver layer in linux that provides all the interfaces of windows drivers to the kernel so you could use any windows driver for linux :-). No one ever seems to expect their Mac to use Windows drivers though. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...
On Thursday 28 May 2009, Kevin Kofler wrote: Steve Underwood wrote: I thought most people wanted to get rid of pulseaudio. Only because people like you perpetuate some stupid myth that PulseAudio is evil. Its a very troublesome program with poor documentation, and little output to help you resolve problems. If you get it working it seems to offer you nothing you didn't have before you had pulseaudio. +1000 It makes sound just work, without apps fighting for the sound device (or multiple incompatible sound servers all trying to fix this fighting for the sound device). No more annoyances like games failing to play sound because some GUI event sound was still being played when they tried opening the sound device. (I've seen, or rather heard, that happen way too often in pre-PulseAudio times.) Yeah, but with it working, only the system beep works... Most sound cards don't do mixing in hardware. A few do support it, but the ALSA driver doesn't. Only few sound cards can do it and have ALSA support for it. So PulseAudio is a mixing solution which works for everyone. Kevin Kofler If only it worked... And I will continue to denigrate it until we have a configuration tool that WILL let us make it work regardless of ones choice of hardware. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The NRA is offering FREE Associate memberships to anyone who wants them. https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/accept-membership.asp Reality is just a crutch for people who can't handle science fiction. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can't get updates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anne Wilson wrote: wget: unable to resolve host address `download.fedoraproject.org' - strange! To reach that mirror you have to assure that: 1. You can resolve hostnames Look in /etc/resolv.conf for a valid nameserver; 2. You should verify you can open a http connection Try to use netcat: nc -v 209.132.176.120 80, if you get Connection to 209.85.171.100 80 port [tcp/http] succeeded! so you are able to connect to the internet. That error message says it cannot resolve host download.fedoraproject.org. Try to resolve for it, using 209.132.176.120 instead. Otherwise add nameserver 208.67.222.222 line at the beginning of /etc/resolv.conf file. Hope this will help. Cheers, Giuseppe -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkoe8SAACgkQBBweuI38tryLcQCg6GaoteJY3m+bJza+NFYYvbEq 72sAn3N4NQHvhAglest3llgKRd8QSSWj =zVFH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks
On Thursday 28 May 2009 19:58:18 Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 19:22 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 28 May 2009 18:43:33 Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 12:08 -0400, Max Pyziur wrote: Little Laptops With Linux Have Compatibility Issues http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124346723960760371.html#mod=todays_us _per sonal_journal fyi, I suppose inherent is the assumption that the problems don't happen with Windows and that they are always the Linux software. My experience with my Acer Aspire One was decidedly different. +1 It came with Windows. My USB key and hard drive wouldn't work in Windows but did work with Linux. After I upgraded the BIOS they also worked with Windows. Mine came with Lupus (I think) Linux. I removed it almost from day one and installed Fedora 10. My understanding is that it is called 'Linpus' Correct - I knew it didn't sound quite right :-) which is derived from Fedora 9 or 10. It is clearly a reduced set of software packages. It seems pretty clear that a serious computer user would probably want a normal Linux distribution installed but for something that is usable off the shelf, it seemed adequate. I believe it would be - it was certainly better than the xandros on the eeepc 701. It was however very useful for developing some alterations to maximize battery life and performance. I wouldn't actually recommend running a full gnome or kde on it, as it is rather slow, but I wanted to be able to evaluate up-to-date kde packages and help with documentation. It is serving me admirably for my purpose. If you can live with the speed hit, and I've definitely seen worse, then it will do anything and everything you would wish. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What software is missing in the Fedora repository?
Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 28 May 2009 12:52:23 +0200 Simon Wesp wrote: The problem is (for me) that it is definitly pornographic, because it helps you to get this stuff. You know that a instigator for a murder is guilty like the murderer himself! so this is for me forbidden and should not be allowed in fedora. Shouldn't you remove all bittorrent clients then :-). All usenet clients, email, web browsers, ftp, ethernet and wireless access network access ... This is a question of morals, not legal. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: preupgrade F10 -- Rawhide
Germán Racca wrote: Hello everybody: I have recently run preupgrade in my Fedora 10, and I choosed to upgrade to Rawhide. The preupgrade program made all the necessary tasks (downloaded fc11 packages, etc.) and when finished it asked to reboot. I rebooted and I got a black screen saying GRUB _ (the _ is blinking) and it reminds in the same way since 30 minutes ago. My question: is it working or I get an error? May I reboot again? No, it's an error. See here for instructions: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=214137 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can't get updates
2009/5/27 Anne Wilson an...@kde.org: wget: unable to resolve host address `download.fedoraproject.org' - strange! Also, are you behind a firewall? Are you behind a proxy? -- Giuseppe Fuggiano Linux user #483710 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks
On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 21:22 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 28 May 2009 19:58:18 Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 19:22 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 28 May 2009 18:43:33 Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 12:08 -0400, Max Pyziur wrote: Little Laptops With Linux Have Compatibility Issues http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124346723960760371.html#mod=todays_us _per sonal_journal fyi, I suppose inherent is the assumption that the problems don't happen with Windows and that they are always the Linux software. My experience with my Acer Aspire One was decidedly different. +1 It came with Windows. My USB key and hard drive wouldn't work in Windows but did work with Linux. After I upgraded the BIOS they also worked with Windows. Mine came with Lupus (I think) Linux. I removed it almost from day one and installed Fedora 10. My understanding is that it is called 'Linpus' Correct - I knew it didn't sound quite right :-) which is derived from Fedora 9 or 10. It is clearly a reduced set of software packages. It seems pretty clear that a serious computer user would probably want a normal Linux distribution installed but for something that is usable off the shelf, it seemed adequate. I believe it would be - it was certainly better than the xandros on the eeepc 701. well, xandros is a spin off debian so I wouldn't bag on it for that. The only challenge is for netbook manufacturers to produce a usable system that they can sell without a bunch of returns. It was however very useful for developing some alterations to maximize battery life and performance. I wouldn't actually recommend running a full gnome or kde on it, as it is rather slow, but I wanted to be able to evaluate up-to-date kde packages and help with documentation. It is serving me admirably for my purpose. If you can live with the speed hit, and I've definitely seen worse, then it will do anything and everything you would wish. silly me, I'm using F11-preview with KDE and I don't notice it slow at all - at least as long as I'm in performance mode. On battery, well, that is a bit slower but this isn't a device that I'm choosing for high performance anyway. The really big deal for me was to break the 1024x600 limits and I'm running a virtual 1280x1024 screen now. The wireless and camera worked out of the box. I do have to boot it in Windows in order to do Yahoo Messenger w/video though :-( It's a good thing that WSJ doesn't depend upon advertisers like Microsoft for revenue... Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
