Re: Are you using LXDE?

[kira . laucas]

On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 08:27:09PM -0400, John Aldrich wrote:
> I don't HAVE an xorg.conf. How does one configure Fedora 10 to use the 
> nouveau driver if one does not have an xorg.conf? I know that the "old" way 
> used to be to hand-edit the xorg.conf, but since that doesn't exist any 
> more, I'm at a loss for how to fix this. I know that it's installed as when 
> I tried to install it earlier yum said it was already installed.
> 
sudo yum install system-config-display and then run system-config-display. it 
will create a new xorg.conf file. or you can just run nvidia-xconfig if you 
have kmod package.

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Two monitors, modelines, xorg.conf, and all that...

[Marko Vojinovic]

I have a laptop whose widescreen LVDS reports these modelines
(correctly, afaik):

(II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x800"x59.8   83.50  1280 1352 1480 1680
800 803 809 831 -hsync -vsync (49.7 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x60.0   65.00  1024 1048 1184 1344
768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x60.3   40.00  800 840 968 1056  600
601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x59.9   25.18  640 656 752 800  480
490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz)

I also have a widescreen VGA monitor, reporting these:

(II) intel(0): Modeline "1680x1050"x59.9  119.00  1680 1728 1760 1840
1050 1053 1059 1080 +hsync -vsync (64.7 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1680x1050"x60.0  146.25  1680 1784 1960 2240
1050 1053 1059 1089 -hsync +vsync (65.3 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1400x1050"x60.0  122.00  1400 1488 1640 1880
1050 1052 1064 1082 +hsync +vsync (64.9 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x75.0  135.00  1280 1296 1440 1688
1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (80.0 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x60.0  108.00  1280 1328 1440 1688
1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (64.0 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1440x900"x75.0  136.75  1440 1536 1688 1936
900 903 909 942 -hsync +vsync (70.6 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1440x900"x59.9  106.50  1440 1520 1672 1904
900 903 909 934 -hsync +vsync (55.9 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x960"x60.0  108.00  1280 1376 1488 1800
960 961 964 1000 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1152x864"x75.0  108.00  1152 1216 1344 1600
864 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync (67.5 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x75.0   78.75  1024 1040 1136 1312
768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x70.1   75.00  1024 1048 1184 1328
768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (56.5 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x60.0   65.00  1024 1048 1184 1344
768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "832x624"x74.6   57.28  832 864 928 1152  624
625 628 667 -hsync -vsync (49.7 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x72.2   50.00  800 856 976 1040  600
637 643 666 +hsync +vsync (48.1 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x75.0   49.50  800 816 896 1056  600
601 604 625 +hsync +vsync (46.9 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x60.3   40.00  800 840 968 1056  600
601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x56.2   36.00  800 824 896 1024  600
601 603 625 +hsync +vsync (35.2 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x75.0   31.50  640 656 720 840  480
481 484 500 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x72.8   31.50  640 664 704 832  480
489 492 520 -hsync -vsync (37.9 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x75.0   31.50  640 656 720 840  480
481 484 500 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x59.9   25.18  640 656 752 800  480
490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "720x400"x70.1   28.32  720 738 846 900  400
412 414 449 -hsync +vsync (31.5 kHz)

When I plug in the VGA, X chooses the highest common resolution, which
happens to be 1024x768. I can only ponder as to why a 22" VGA monitor
does not want to do 1280x800, but that's not the question. What I
would like to have is the following setup:

* when VGA is not plugged in, LVDS should be up with its native
resolution (1280x800)
* when VGA is plugged in, LVDS should be off, while VGA in its native
resolution (1680x1050)

It would be nice to have this hot-pluggable, but I don't mind
restarting X or the computer for the change. Can anybody tell me how
to configure xorg.conf to make this happen?

My current xorg.conf is fairly simple so far:


Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.org Configured"
Screen "Screen0"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Option  "AccelMethod"  "XAA"
Identifier  "Card0"
Driver  "intel"
VendorName  "Intel Corporation"
BoardName   "Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller"
BusID   "PCI:0:2:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
EndSection


The AccelMethod is set to XAA because of that famous intel random
lockup thing (it doesn't eliminate the bug, just makes it more rare),
everything else is autoconfigured.

Thanks, :-)
Marko

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Re: Are you using LXDE?

[Sharpe, Sam J]

2009/6/3  :
> On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 08:27:09PM -0400, John Aldrich wrote:
>> I don't HAVE an xorg.conf. How does one configure Fedora 10 to use the
>> nouveau driver if one does not have an xorg.conf? I know that the "old" way
>> used to be to hand-edit the xorg.conf, but since that doesn't exist any
>> more, I'm at a loss for how to fix this. I know that it's installed as when
>> I tried to install it earlier yum said it was already installed.
>>
> sudo yum install system-config-display and then run system-config-display. it 
> will create a new xorg.conf file.
> or you can just run nvidia-xconfig if you have kmod package.

Slight correction: to run nvidia-xconfig you need the
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia package installed.



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Re: ibssl.so.7 ?!

[Jussi Lehtola]

On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 22:10 -0300, Germán Racca wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 21:53 -0300, Martín Marqués wrote:
> > Germán, the problem is that preupgrade leaves out a bunch of kde apps:
> > 
> > Checking for new repos for mirrors
> >  * preupgrade: fedora.c3sl.ufpr.br
> > 6:kdelibs-4.2.3-2.fc10.x86_64 from installed has depsolving problems
> >   --> Missing Dependency: libssl.so.7()(64bit) is needed by package
> > 6:kdelibs-4.2.3-2.fc10.x86_64 (installed)

These are 64-bit, x86_64 packages.

> Well, as I have libssl.so.8 and libcrypto.so.8 installed, and KDE is
> looking for libssl.so.7 and libcrypto.so.7, I decided to create the
> symbolic links that KDE is looking for. I have the following:
> 
> /usr/lib/libssl.so.8: symbolic link to `libssl.so.0.9.8k'
> /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.8: symbolic link to `libcrypto.so.0.9.8k'
> 
> so I have created the following symbolic links:
> 
> /usr/lib/libssl.so.7: symbolic link to `libssl.so.0.9.8k'
> /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.7: symbolic link to `libcrypto.so.0.9.8k'

This is definately the wrong way to go. Do not work against the
distribution!

> and with that now everything is working fine again.
> 
> Anyway, my 'yum repolist' is as follows:
> 
> fedoraFedora 11 - i386
> enabled: 13,289
> livna rpm.livna.org for 11 - i386
> enabled:  3
> rpmfusion-freeRPM Fusion for Fedora 11 - Free
> enabled:566
> rpmfusion-free-updatesRPM Fusion for Fedora 11 - Free - Updates
> enabled:  0
> rpmfusion-nonfree RPM Fusion for Fedora 11 - Nonfree
> enabled:240
> rpmfusion-nonfree-updates RPM Fusion for Fedora 11 - Nonfree - Upda
> enabled:  0
> updates   Fedora 11 - i386 - Updates
> enabled:  1,293

These are 32-bit i386 repositories!

i.e. you have "updated" a 64-bit installation to 32-bit, no wonder why
it doesn't work.
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Re: GPRS in Fedora 10

[Mustafa Qasim]

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Adeel Akbar  wrote:

> Hi I want to run internet through GPRS service. Can anyone advice how we
> create dial up connection in Fedora 10 to connect  with internet.
>
> Thanks & Regards
>
> Adeel Akbar
>
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Salam,
   Can you please also list what mobile do you have and what cable
are you using to connect it with PC. Just have a look here
http://www.shekhargovindarajan.com/open-source/fedora-x/

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Questions with rsync

[GMS S]

Will this command do the job for backup?

rsync -vpa / /home/user/backup

How would I exclude these files below:

/lost+found
/media
/mnt

and others which I do not need.

And what is the compression lever by rsync (using -a option)?


  

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Grub doesn't recognize hdd in F11 x86_64

[marcin_wolyniak]

Hello,

I have problem booting F11 x86_64 (Preview and snapshot from May 28th
-
aka rc ) after installation. Used hardware is HP Pavilion dv5-1150ew.
After smooth installation (both from LiveCD and DVD release) and
reboot
it stops at grub console. Issuing command root (hd , geometry (hdx)
where x=0,1,2...  gives no such device error 21. F11 was installed on
fresh hdd with default partition layout.

I even placed the bug report on bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503180 , but with no
response so far.

I tried F10, Centos 5.3 and Ubuntu 9.04, but with no success. With
erronr 21 ( Ubuntu) or installation crashed during partitioning ( F10,
Centos )

hdd and memory tested and passed all OK.

Tried a few BIOS versions -all the same

And ... Vista boots OK. G ;-)

Maybe someone could help me to make F11 bootable on this machine?

Regards

Marcin Wołyniak

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I don't have colors in Midnight commander editor

[Mark Ryden]

Hello,
  I have fedora release 9 . I installed mc (midnight commander) by
"yum install mc".
When I open xml files  or "c" source files or java  with mc editor (by
pressing F4) I don't see any colors. (I mean colors of some keywords ,
like "int" (for c source file), lines starting with "<" or "<--"  for
xml, etc.)

On other fedora machines I **do** see colors with mc.
Any ideas what can be the reason ?
Rgs,
Mark

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Joining wireless and wired networks

[James Allsopp]

Hi,
I've a computer at home I'm using for a network gateway, which has two
ethernet cards and a wireless card. One of the ethernet cards connects
to the outside world and the wireless side of the network connects to
the internet using iptables to provide NAT and forward the packets over.
The system is also running a dhcp server for the providing IP addresses
to the wireless clients.

What I want to do now is bring in the other ethernet card so computers
attached to that part of the network can connect to the internet and
access the services of the other machines on the network, regardless of
whether they're on the gateway or the wireless network.

I was considering bridging the wireless and the wired networks, but just
wanted to ask for opinions, other options. I''m loooking at eventually
getting a job working with linux systems, so it doesn't have to be a
"what would be best in a home environment" solution.

Thanks for the help,
James

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Re: ibssl.so.7 ?!

[Martín Marqués]

2009/6/3 Jussi Lehtola :
> On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 22:10 -0300, Germán Racca wrote:
>> On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 21:53 -0300, Martín Marqués wrote:
>> > Germán, the problem is that preupgrade leaves out a bunch of kde apps:
>> >
>> > Checking for new repos for mirrors
>> >  * preupgrade: fedora.c3sl.ufpr.br
>> > 6:kdelibs-4.2.3-2.fc10.x86_64 from installed has depsolving problems
>> >   --> Missing Dependency: libssl.so.7()(64bit) is needed by package
>> > 6:kdelibs-4.2.3-2.fc10.x86_64 (installed)
>
> These are 64-bit, x86_64 packages.

Those errors are from my upgrade (an AMD 64 laptop)

>>
>> fedora                    Fedora 11 - i386
>> enabled: 13,289
>> livna                     rpm.livna.org for 11 - i386
>> enabled:      3
>> rpmfusion-free            RPM Fusion for Fedora 11 - Free
>> enabled:    566
>> rpmfusion-free-updates    RPM Fusion for Fedora 11 - Free - Updates
>> enabled:      0
>> rpmfusion-nonfree         RPM Fusion for Fedora 11 - Nonfree
>> enabled:    240
>> rpmfusion-nonfree-updates RPM Fusion for Fedora 11 - Nonfree - Upda
>> enabled:      0
>> updates                   Fedora 11 - i386 - Updates
>> enabled:  1,293
>
> These are 32-bit i386 repositories!

These are from Germáns computer.

Germán, what does yum update say? Do a yum clean all first.

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Re: ibssl.so.7 ?!

[Martín Marqués]

2009/6/2 Germán Racca :
>
> Hello Martín, thanks for your answer.
>
> Well, as I have libssl.so.8 and libcrypto.so.8 installed, and KDE is
> looking for libssl.so.7 and libcrypto.so.7, I decided to create the
> symbolic links that KDE is looking for. I have the following:
>
> /usr/lib/libssl.so.8: symbolic link to `libssl.so.0.9.8k'
> /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.8: symbolic link to `libcrypto.so.0.9.8k'
>
> so I have created the following symbolic links:
>
> /usr/lib/libssl.so.7: symbolic link to `libssl.so.0.9.8k'
> /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.7: symbolic link to `libcrypto.so.0.9.8k'
>
> and with that now everything is working fine again.

As Jussi said, this is bad thing to do. If at any time the kde
applications need to use some specific thing that is in libssl.so.7
and not in libssl.so.8, you'll be doomed.

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Re: Questions with rsync

[L]

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 8:02 PM, GMS S  wrote:
>
> Will this command do the job for backup?
>
> rsync -vpa / /home/user/backup
>
> How would I exclude these files below:
>
> /lost+found
> /media
> /mnt
>


if you man rsync , you can see two options for you:

--exclude=PATTERN   exclude files matching PATTERN
--exclude-from=FILE read exclude patterns from FILE



> and others which I do not need.
>
> And what is the compression lever by rsync (using -a option)?
>
>
>
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Re: Questions with rsync

[Craig White]

On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 03:02 -0700, GMS S wrote:
> Will this command do the job for backup?
> 
> rsync -vpa / /home/user/backup
> 
> How would I exclude these files below:
> 
> /lost+found
> /media
> /mnt
> 
> and others which I do not need.
> 
> And what is the compression lever by rsync (using -a option)?

I would pretty much recommend that you specifically omit /dev and /proc
too.

Save the filter to a text file and make it look something like this (I
like the first one but you might not). + and - symbols should be
obvious.

- ~*
- /lost+found/
+ **/home/user/backup

rsync -vpa --filter='. /path/to/rsync-filter' $source $destination

I didn't think '-a' option indicates compression at all, only 'archive'
and you might want '-u' option for update.

Craig


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Upgrade FC3 to FC10

[Moessbauer, David]

Have an old system that requires upgrade from existing FC3 configuration
to FC10 for security concerns.  Upgrade vice fresh install is necessary
to maintain existing proprietary application loads.
 
When attempt to utilize FC10 upgrade DVD it can not find a Linux load on
HDD, though it is there.  Also tried with FC9, same results.
 
Any guidance would be appreciated.
 
 
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Re: Upgrade FC3 to FC10

[Jussi Lehtola]

On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 09:10 -0400, Moessbauer, David wrote:
> Have an old system that requires upgrade from existing FC3
> configuration to FC10 for security concerns.  Upgrade vice fresh
> install is necessary to maintain existing proprietary application
> loads.

You have proprietary software installed in FC3 that you want to work in
the new OS too?

> When attempt to utilize FC10 upgrade DVD it can not find a Linux load
> on HDD, though it is there.  Also tried with FC9, same results.
>  
> Any guidance would be appreciated.

Then F9 and F10 might be too new to be able to upgrade such an old
installation.

I wouldn't update to a new Fedora, if you have proprietary software that
you still want to use. The libraries and so on may not be compatible
with the old software.

I suggest you update to CentOS 4 ( http://centos.org/ ), which is
largely based on Fedora Core 3 so the update should be quite painless.
You should even be able to do the update with yum.
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Re: Questions with rsync

[GMS S]

[
I would pretty much recommend that you specifically omit /dev and /proc
too.

Save the filter to a text file and make it look something like this (I
like the first one but you might not). + and - symbols should be
obvious.

- ~*
- /lost+found/
+ **/home/user/backup

rsync -vpa --filter='. /path/to/rsync-filter' $source $destination

I didn't think '-a' option indicates compression at all, only 'archive'
and you might want '-u' option for update.

Craig
]

So what would be the final command if I exclude these directory?

/lost+found
/media
/mnt
/dev
/proc
/home/user/backup
/dev

Thanks.


  

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Re: Questions with rsync

[Andras Simon]

On 6/3/09, GMS S  wrote:
>
> Will this command do the job for backup?
>
> rsync -vpa / /home/user/backup
>
> How would I exclude these files below:
>
> /lost+found
> /media
> /mnt
>
> and others which I do not need.
>
> And what is the compression lever by rsync (using -a option)?

Not an answer to your questions, but if you plan to use rsync for
backup, have a look at this:

http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/

Andras

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Re: GPRS in Fedora 10

[Adeel Akbar]

Hi 

Thanks for your support. I have Sony Ericson K320i with original data cable. 

Thanks & Regards 

Adeel Akbar 

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On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Adeel Akbar < aak...@i2cinc.com > wrote: 




Hi I want to run internet through GPRS service. Can anyone advice how we create 
dial up connection in Fedora 10 to connect with internet. 

Thanks & Regards 

Adeel Akbar 


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Salam, 
Can you please also list what mobile do you have and what cable are you using 
to connect it with PC. Just have a look here 
http://www.shekhargovindarajan.com/open-source/fedora-x/ 

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postgresql f10 hangs on shutdown

[Michael Cronenworth]

PostgreSQL hangs on shutdown causing me to have to hit the hardware
reset switch. Has anyone dealt with this issue? This has been occuring
to me for a long time, but since I cannot find much evidence as to why
it happens I haven't created a bug report.

Evidence so far:
-Before shutdown I can manually stop PostgreSQL successfully, but if I
forget and perform a shutdown/restart, it hangs on stopping postgresql.
-The process must be running for at least multiple hours. 4-8 hours
seems to be long enough. Otherwise it will shutdown OK.
-I don't even have to use a database for it to get into this bad state.

The shutdown process turns off NetworkManager, then sshd, then
postgresql, so I am unable to SSH in or log in to diagnose this issue.
Any pointers would be appreciated.

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Re: Joining wireless and wired networks

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

James Allsopp wrote:
> Hi,
> I've a computer at home I'm using for a network gateway, which has two
> ethernet cards and a wireless card. One of the ethernet cards connects
> to the outside world and the wireless side of the network connects to
> the internet using iptables to provide NAT and forward the packets over.
> The system is also running a dhcp server for the providing IP addresses
> to the wireless clients.
> 
> What I want to do now is bring in the other ethernet card so computers
> attached to that part of the network can connect to the internet and
> access the services of the other machines on the network, regardless of
> whether they're on the gateway or the wireless network.
> 
> I was considering bridging the wireless and the wired networks, but just
> wanted to ask for opinions, other options. I''m loooking at eventually
> getting a job working with linux systems, so it doesn't have to be a
> "what would be best in a home environment" solution.
> 
> Thanks for the help,
> James
> 
Setting up a bridge interface using the two NICs is probably the
simplest. But if you want to play, you could put each NIC on its own
subnet, and set up routing between them. It isn't too hard if you
are using static addressing. If you are using dhcp, setting up the
dhcp server is interesting.

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Re: preupgrade or anaconda error

[Martín Marqués]

El día 2 de junio de 2009 19:16, Martín Marqués
 escribió:
>
> Got a wired connection and this is what bugzilla got:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503830

Got passed this. All packages got upgraded.

The problem is that it's at the "Finishing upgrade process." the last
40 minutes. Disk usage is high, and the load is at 1.05. I'll soon
have to turn off the laptop, so what should I do?

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Re: Questions with rsync

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 03:02 -0700, GMS S wrote:
> Will this command do the job for backup?
> 
> rsync -vpa / /home/user/backup

Er, isn't this recursive?

poc

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Re: Questions with rsync

[Kevin Kempter]

On Wednesday 03 June 2009 08:35:50 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 03:02 -0700, GMS S wrote:
> > Will this command do the job for backup?
> >
> > rsync -vpa / /home/user/backup
>
> Er, isn't this recursive?
>
> poc

I didn't really like the behavior of the filter functionality in rsync so I 
took a different approach. I have a file called dirlist which is the list of 
root level directories I want to backup, this is coupled with a shell script 
(rsync_backup.sh) which runs my desired rsync command for each dirname found 
in the dirlist file.   I also have a restore shell script (rsync_restore.sh). I 
use this to backup my Fedora10 laptop before I run any updates. I have had to 
go back and run the restore when updates caused video issues, the restore 
worked flawlessly.
I've attached the dirlist and both rsync scripts (the backup and the restore), 
hope it's helpful.


bin
boot
docs
download
etc
home
lib
lib64
lost+found
media
mnt
opt
root
sbin
selinux
srv
tmp
usr
var


rsync_backup.sh
Description: application/shellscript


rsync_restore.sh
Description: application/shellscript
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Re: WUSB54G firmware

[Bill Davidsen]

Kevin Kofler wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:

Jim, mine uses something called rt73.bin and I have no idea how it got in
/lib/firmware... But that's what it appears to use.


rt73 is a Ralink firmware, it has nothing to do with the OP's Prism WLAN.
It comes from the rt73usb-firmware package.

Let me state the facts and you can tell me why they don't mean the obvious... 
when I plug in the WUSH54G device, the disk blinks, the device blinks, and a 
wireless connection is made. On looking at the files in /lib/firmware I see that 
the most recently accessed file is rt73.bin. And that if I boot without plugging 
in the WUSH54G device that firmware is not accessed.


I didn't pull that filename out of the sir, I looked to see what firmware was 
accessed. Are you saying that the access when the device is used is just a 
coincidence?


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Re: Fix /boot/grub/grub.conf to chainload Fedora 11 Preview?? and Fedora 9 with chainloader

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

Antonio Olivares wrote:
> Dear fellow Fedoreans,
> 
> I have a machine which Windows, and Fedora 9 have coexisted happily since 
> Fedora 9 was released.  I shrunk the Windows Partition a bit more and setup 
> an empty place where I installed Fedora 11 Preview(to update it to current 
> Fedora 11 pre or rawhide whichever gets picked up via updates)
> 
> Now I can boot windows and Fedora 11, but can't boot Fedora 9, everything is 
> in there I can see the data, I just can't boot it.  Here's output of fdisk 
> and grub.conf for both Fedora 9 and Fedora 11?? soon to be
> 
> 
This would have been easier to fix before installing the new
version. Probably the fastest fix is to boot the new install, and
re-install Grub to the boot record of /boot. The boot in the rescue
mode of the install DVD or boot CD. Tell it you want to fix
re-install the boot loader of the F9 install. After rebooting into
F9, edit grub and add a chainloader entry to the F11 /boot
directory. You can use the Windows entry as an example.

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No icons or panels in Desktop, just wallpaper

[ashin george]

I'm a beginner and had got a Fedora core 7 in my Laptop., It worked fine in
the first days. But now on logging in to the desktop there is no Panels or
Icons in the desktop. Just the Wallpaper. The cursor appears and it can be
moved. I can't do anything., I just restarted. Done it many times but same
thing happens.
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*Configuration*
Intel Celeron-M 560, 2.13/1M/533
512MB DDRII 667
80GB SATA HDD
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Re: No icons or panels in Desktop, just wallpaper

[Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)]

ashin george wrote:
I'm a beginner and had got a Fedora core 7 in my Laptop., It worked fine 
in the first days. But now on logging in to the desktop there is no 
Panels or Icons in the desktop. Just the Wallpaper. The cursor appears 
and it can be moved. I can't do anything., I just restarted. Done it 
many times but same thing happens.

**
*Configuration*
Intel Celeron-M 560, 2.13/1M/533
512MB DDRII 667
80GB SATA HDD


Hi Ashin,

I would recommend you update to Fedora 10 or 11 (out shortly).
As you won't receive any furthrt updates for Fedora 7
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LifeCycle/EOL
It is no longer supported.


Frank


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Re: Netbooks

[Jim]

On 06/02/2009 10:38 PM, Michael Leung wrote:

Yes, that is the better to use the OS from the vendor.
As far as I know, eee PC linux is customized .

On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht 
> wrote:



Ralf Corsepius mailto:rc040...@freenet.de>>
writes:
> The OP asked about EeePC - Fedora or Ubuntu.
>
> My answer to this question would be: If you simply want to use your
> netbook, you're likely better off using the OS the HW vendor
supplies.

Some netbooks seem to be better than others.  I have a Acer Aspire One
here that works fine under F11.  The wifi works fine as does
NetworkManager once one gets around the bug that many of the config
screens have the bottoms cut off and one needs to use and larger
external LCD to setup the thing.

This machine isn't for me.  I simply can't use those small keyboards.
Gimme 19mm key spacing or some environment where I never have to
use the
keyboard.

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RE: Upgrade FC3 to FC10

[Moessbauer, David]

Yes, we need applications to work in new OS too.

Would CentOS4 address following security concerns:
1. Disable Executive Stack - IE: kernel must support NX feature
2. Linux Kernel Remote Denial of Service Vulnerability that affects
kernels prior to 2.6.27.5

-Original Message-
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[mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Jussi Lehtola
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:39 AM
To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora.
Subject: Re: Upgrade FC3 to FC10

On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 09:10 -0400, Moessbauer, David wrote:
> Have an old system that requires upgrade from existing FC3 
> configuration to FC10 for security concerns.  Upgrade vice fresh 
> install is necessary to maintain existing proprietary application 
> loads.

You have proprietary software installed in FC3 that you want to work in
the new OS too?

> When attempt to utilize FC10 upgrade DVD it can not find a Linux load 
> on HDD, though it is there.  Also tried with FC9, same results.
>  
> Any guidance would be appreciated.

Then F9 and F10 might be too new to be able to upgrade such an old
installation.

I wouldn't update to a new Fedora, if you have proprietary software that
you still want to use. The libraries and so on may not be compatible
with the old software.

I suggest you update to CentOS 4 ( http://centos.org/ ), which is
largely based on Fedora Core 3 so the update should be quite painless.
You should even be able to do the update with yum.
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Re: Are you using LXDE?

[Bill Davidsen]

Tim wrote:

On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 20:27 -0400, John Aldrich wrote:

How does one configure Fedora 10 to use the nouveau driver if one does
not have an xorg.conf? I know that the "old" way used to be to
hand-edit the xorg.conf, but since that doesn't exist any more, I'm at
a loss for how to fix this.


One option is to create one from scratch.  There's plenty of samples on
the web about how the xorg.conf file is formed.  Do a bit of research.

Two less error-prone ways are to install and use system-config-display or run 
Xorg with the option to create the file (sorry, don't remember it).


I thought you could just use xdriver=noveau on the boot line, but I haven't 
looked at that stuff in a year or so and might be misremembering.


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RE: Upgrade FC3 to FC10

[Jussi Lehtola]

On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 11:31 -0400, Moessbauer, David wrote:
> Yes, we need applications to work in new OS too.
> 
> Would CentOS4 address following security concerns:
> 1. Disable Executive Stack - IE: kernel must support NX feature
> 2. Linux Kernel Remote Denial of Service Vulnerability that affects
> kernels prior to 2.6.27.5

CentOS 4 was released in 2005 and will be supported AFAIK until 2012.
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RE: F10 stuck at grub -

[Smith, Herb]

http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/fedora.redhat/linux/releases/10/Fedora/i
386/os/images/

 

> -Original Message-
> From: Bob Goodwin [mailto:bobgood...@wildblue.net] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 6:31 PM
> To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora.
> Subject: Re: F10 stuck at grub -
> 
> Smith, Herb wrote:
> > You can also use a cd made from the boot.iso if it won't take your 
> > liveCD...same process.
> Is there a "boot.iso" file on the livecd?
> 
> I can't find it, probably missing something but ...
> 
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Re: Upgrade FC3 to FC10

[Alan Cox]

On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 11:31:35 -0400
"Moessbauer, David"  wrote:

> Yes, we need applications to work in new OS too.
> 
> Would CentOS4 address following security concerns:
> 1. Disable Executive Stack - IE: kernel must support NX feature

Centos has it if I remember (assuming your CPU supports PAE and NX)

> 2. Linux Kernel Remote Denial of Service Vulnerability that affects
> kernels prior to 2.6.27.5

Insufficient information - which specific vulnerability (what
vulnerability id ?)

Centos is built from the same basic sources as Red Hat Enterprise Linux -
so its long term maintained but without the guarantees, support and
service stuff paying for Red Hat gets you. If you need long lifetimes of
old code its probably more appropriate than Fedora

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RE: Upgrade FC3 to FC10

[M A Young]

On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Moessbauer, David wrote:


Yes, we need applications to work in new OS too.

Would CentOS4 address following security concerns:
1. Disable Executive Stack - IE: kernel must support NX feature
2. Linux Kernel Remote Denial of Service Vulnerability that affects
kernels prior to 2.6.27.5


CentOS 4 is a clone of Red Hat's RHEL4 minus the trademarked stuff (like 
the Red Hat name and Red Hat specific icons)


Jussi Lehtola wrote:

I suggest you update to CentOS 4 ( http://centos.org/ ), which is
largely based on Fedora Core 3 so the update should be quite painless.
You should even be able to do the update with yum.


You might have to tidy up a lot after a yum update (or indeed any other 
update from FC3 to CentOS 4), because some packages in a fully patched 
version of FC3 (eg. the kernel) will have a higher version number than 
Centos 4, since in RHEL security patches are often backported to the 
original version of the software in the distribution rather than using the 
later version that includes the fix.


Michael Young

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Re: preupgrade or anaconda error

[Martín Marqués]

El día 3 de junio de 2009 11:28, Martín Marqués
 escribió:
> El día 2 de junio de 2009 19:16, Martín Marqués
>  escribió:
>>
>> Got a wired connection and this is what bugzilla got:
>>
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503830
>
> Got passed this. All packages got upgraded.
>
> The problem is that it's at the "Finishing upgrade process." the last
> 40 minutes. Disk usage is high, and the load is at 1.05. I'll soon
> have to turn off the laptop, so what should I do?

Never mind. It finally finish. It did take quite a long time to do so.

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Re: update to F11 with yum

[Alan Evans]

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Sharpe, Sam J
 wrote:
> I bet he is, because I do just that:
>
> [...@samlap ~]$ rpm -qa | egrep "\.i.86"
> [...@samlap ~]$
>
> I have exactly zero x86 packages installed on my system...

How do you do that?

I have a small number of 32-bit packages on my desktop. If I try to
remove, for example, glibc.i686, then it tries to take
basesystem.noarch with it as a dependency!

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Re: update to F11 with yum

[Michael Cronenworth]

Alan Evans wrote:
> 
> How do you do that?
> 
> I have a small number of 32-bit packages on my desktop. If I try to
> remove, for example, glibc.i686, then it tries to take
> basesystem.noarch with it as a dependency!
> 

rpm -e glibc.i686 --nodeps
(use with care...)

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Re: update to F11 with yum

[Alan Evans]

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> Alan Evans wrote:
>>
>> How do you do that?
>>
>> I have a small number of 32-bit packages on my desktop. If I try to
>> remove, for example, glibc.i686, then it tries to take
>> basesystem.noarch with it as a dependency!
>>
>
> rpm -e glibc.i686 --nodeps
> (use with care...)

Well, sure, but that leaves the dependency tree deliberately broken.
Who knows what silly problems that will cause with some far-future yum
invocation or upgrade?

I was rather thinking that he had done it more legitimately.

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Re: F10 stuck at grub -

[Bob Goodwin]

   Smith, Herb wrote:

http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/fedora.redhat/linux/releases/10/Fedora/i
386/os/images/

   Yes I found a site with the boot.iso stuff and put it on a cd. Even
   then I had problems and finally decided to remove the hard drives
   and replace them with one larger drive which was my ultimate
   intention anyway. Even then the livecd had trouble trying to install
   over an existing F-10 on that larger drive. I had to reformat it
   with fdisk ... Then the livecd install went as expected.

   I also learned a few other things 

   I believe most of my trouble was due to an item in the BIOS setup
   that I had not noticed before which forced it to boot from the first
   drive and I had put everything on the second. I didn't notice that
   until I replaced the drives and went through the BIOS settings for
   the nth time!

   We get too late smart.

   Thanks to all for the help. Now to continue my file server
   experimentation.

   Bob

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Re: Grub doesn't recognize hdd in F11 x86_64

[Wolfgang S. Rupprecht]

marcin_wolyniak  writes:
> I have problem booting F11 x86_64 (Preview and snapshot from May 28th
> -
> aka rc ) after installation. Used hardware is HP Pavilion dv5-1150ew.
> After smooth installation (both from LiveCD and DVD release) and
> reboot
> it stops at grub console. Issuing command root (hd , geometry (hdx)
> where x=0,1,2...  gives no such device error 21. F11 was installed on
> fresh hdd with default partition layout.

Might it be this problem?  Do you have more than one disk in the system?

   https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-May/msg01392.html

You might just need to do a "grub-install".

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samba client

[Adel ESSAFI]

Hi list


I want to ask what are the available client for samba on fedora. I know that
kde and gnome integrate samba in the GUI. do you know any other clients

Thanks in advance


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Re: Two monitors, modelines, xorg.conf, and all that...

[Wolfgang S. Rupprecht]

Marko Vojinovic  writes:
> When I plug in the VGA, X chooses the highest common resolution, which
> happens to be 1024x768. I can only ponder as to why a 22" VGA monitor
> does not want to do 1280x800, but that's not the question. What I
> would like to have is the following setup:

Under f11 this appears to have changed, at least for a Acer Aspire One
netbook I just tested.  When I plug a 1200x1600 monitor into it the
desktop comes up 1200x1600 instead of the 1024x600 it is when only the
native screen is attached.

So the answer my be, just wait a few days and upgrade to f11.  With
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Re: Upgrade FC3 to FC10

[Wolfgang S. Rupprecht]

"Moessbauer, David"  writes:
> Have an old system that requires upgrade from existing FC3 configuration
> to FC10 for security concerns.  Upgrade vice fresh install is necessary to
> maintain existing proprietary application loads.
>  
> When attempt to utilize FC10 upgrade DVD it can not find a Linux load on
> HDD, though it is there.  Also tried with FC9, same results.
>  
> Any guidance would be appreciated.

Buy a new disk, unplug the old one and do a clean install of f11 on it
when f11 comes out in a week.  Then recompile your proprietary software
and run.  If it fails, you can always put the old fc3 disk back in and
wait till someone breaks in and destroys the system.  At that point it
won't matter that the proprietary stuff doesn't run on f11, because it
won't run on the fc3 installation either. ;-)

All joking aside, I don't see how you can avoid reinstalling your
proprietary stuff under a more recent OS.

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Re: Questions with rsync

[Wolfgang S. Rupprecht]

GMS S  writes:
> Will this command do the job for backup?
>
> rsync -vpa / /home/user/backup
>
> How would I exclude these files below:
>
> /lost+found
> /media
> /mnt

It is always a good idea to throw in an "-x" to these programs and then
list the filesystems you want to backup explicitly.

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Re: Are you using LXDE?

[Andras Simon]

On 6/3/09, Kevin Kofler  wrote:
> Andras Simon wrote:
>> Have you filed bug reports for your problems with nvida? They can't
>> fix them if they don't know about them.

[...]

> Plenty of users have filed "KDE bugs" with us which turned out to be NVidia
> proprietary driver bugs. (Of course we told them to report them to NVidia,
> whether they did or not is something I don't know.) Some got fixed, but for
> each issue they fix, some new one comes up.

Couldn't this be a fair description of lots of OS software, too? That
doesn't make them crap. Work in progress, perhaps.

Andras

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Re: Skype under Fedora-10

[Rick Stevens]

Tim wrote:

On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:23 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:

Incidentally, is there any alternative to Skype
that works under Linux and Windows XP?


Until someone hacks the proprietary Skype system, and I haven't seen any
notice that someone has, you're not going to see a non-Skype program
that can connect to other Skype programs.

Skype's a lousy idea, for various reasons, and that's just one of them.


A blanket statement bound to generate flames if I ever saw one.  I might
as well start the flame fest.

I disagree, Tim.  Skype is a good idea.  There are bits that could be
done better, but parts of the service require quite a bit of capital
investment and there has to be a way to fund that.  Subscriptions is
one way.

When I was in Europe two years ago, I was able to call my mother in the
USA on her land line to check on her (she's 80 and lives alone).  The
cost using Skype was easily less than 25% of what it would have cost me
using my cell phone and standard connections.

That ability alone as well as the converse (permitting regular telephone
users such as my mother the ability to contact my computer via a phone
number) is terrific.  My mom is something of a technophobe.  She'll deal
with the phone, but will have nothing whatsoever to do with computers
(took me weeks to teach her how to use the OnStar in her car...and that
uses voice commands!).

You don't need to hack the system.  Use H.323/SIP clients (ekiga, etc.)
and talk computer-to-computer all you want.  I don't buy the "if it's on
the  Internet it HAS to be free, therefore we should hack into it"
mantra.  If it's something that services a need I have, I don't mind
paying for it--in fact I expect to.  I don't believe in entitlements of
any sort.  In Skype's case, someone's got to pick up the bill for the
PBX systems.  They only charge if you intend to use the PBX anyway.  Do
you prepay your cell minutes?  I'm always dumbfounded by people who do
that yet expect their Internet access to be free.

Do I wish their Linux client was more solid?  Yes.  Do I wish they had a
native 64-bit version?  Yes.  Do I wish it was open source and able to 
be improved upon by others?  Yes.  However, even in its current state it

works (even with PulseAudio) and I'm fine with it and their service.

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Re: Questions with rsync

[Rick Stevens]

GMS S wrote:

[
I would pretty much recommend that you specifically omit /dev and /proc
too.

Save the filter to a text file and make it look something like this (I
like the first one but you might not). + and - symbols should be
obvious.

- ~*
- /lost+found/
+ **/home/user/backup

rsync -vpa --filter='. /path/to/rsync-filter' $source $destination

I didn't think '-a' option indicates compression at all, only 'archive'
and you might want '-u' option for update.

Craig
]

So what would be the final command if I exclude these directory?

/lost+found
/media
/mnt
/dev
/proc
/home/user/backup
/dev


I use this sort of thing with a 500GB USB drive (automounted at
"/media/500GB-Drive" by Gnome):

#!/bin/bash
# Back up system to a specific directory given on the command
# line or a default based on today's date.  Excludes the /proc,
# /sys, /dev and /media directories
MYHOST=`hostname`
TODAY=`date +%d-%b-%Y`
if [ $# -lt 1 ]; then
TGT="/media/500GB-Drive/$MYHOST-BackUp-$TODAY"
else
TGT=$1
fi

rsync -avXA --exclude-from=/etc/skipdirs.rsync / $TGT

with /etc/skipdirs.rsync containing:

/proc/*
/sys/*
/dev/*
/media/*

Tweak as you see fit.
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Re: update to F11 with yum

[Craig White]

On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 11:51 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> Alan Evans wrote:
> > 
> > How do you do that?
> > 
> > I have a small number of 32-bit packages on my desktop. If I try to
> > remove, for example, glibc.i686, then it tries to take
> > basesystem.noarch with it as a dependency!
> > 
> 
> rpm -e glibc.i686 --nodeps
> (use with care...)

use with care?

If I wanted to hose a system, that command would be pretty close to the
top of the list of things to do.

Craig


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Re: Grub doesn't recognize hdd in F11 x86_64

[Marcin Wołyniak]

Dnia Wolfgang S. Rupprecht 03.06.2009 19:08 napisał(a):
> >
> > Might it be this problem?  Do you have more than one disk in the 
system?

> >
> > 
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-May/msg01392.html

> >
> > You might just need to do a "grub-install".
> >
> > -wolfgang
Unfortunately this is laptop and has only one disk.
I forgot mention that more details what I tried are in the bugzilla
under the link mentioned in first post.

I've already done the grub-install with no success. More, I've  then
lost the grub console after reboot. Only Error 21 message displayed with
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Re: WUSB54G firmware

[Wolfgang S. Rupprecht]

Bill Davidsen  writes:
> Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> Bill Davidsen wrote:
>>> Jim, mine uses something called rt73.bin and I have no idea how it got in
>>> /lib/firmware... But that's what it appears to use.
>>
>> rt73 is a Ralink firmware, it has nothing to do with the OP's Prism WLAN.
>> It comes from the rt73usb-firmware package.
>>
> Let me state the facts and you can tell me why they don't mean the
> obvious... when I plug in the WUSH54G device, the disk blinks, the
> device blinks, and a wireless connection is made. On looking at the
> files in /lib/firmware I see that the most recently accessed file is
> rt73.bin. And that if I boot without plugging in the WUSH54G device
> that firmware is not accessed.
>
> I didn't pull that filename out of the sir, I looked to see what
> firmware was accessed. Are you saying that the access when the device
> is used is just a coincidence?

Does /var/log/messages say anything interesting?  On my laptop's
embedded radio I see kernel-tagged syslog messages indicating which
firmware file is getting loaded.  If that were present it would put an
end to any doubt.

Jun  3 10:32:19 ancho kernel: b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43/ucode5.fw
Jun  3 10:32:19 ancho kernel: b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43/pcm5.fw
Jun  3 10:32:19 ancho kernel: b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting 
b43/b0g0initvals5.fw
Jun  3 10:32:19 ancho kernel: b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting 
b43/b0g0bsinitvals5.fw
Jun  3 10:32:19 ancho kernel: b43-phy0: Loading firmware version 410.2160 
(2007-05-26 15:32:10)

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Re: F11 - X forwarding display problem

[Gordon Messmer]

On 05/31/2009 08:06 PM, John wrote:

xorg-x11-xauth was already installed. I created a new user and tried to
login. Here is the output:

   [j...@lt-02 ~]$ ssh -X t...@lt-01
   t...@lt-01's password:
   /usr/bin/xauth:  creating new authority file /home/tom/.Xauthority
   [...@lt-01 ~]$ gedit
   (gedit:2969): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: localhost:10.0


When you log in to that account, what do you get from:
 ls -l $XAUTHORITY
 echo "$XAUTHORITY"

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Re: No icons or panels in Desktop, just wallpaper

[Shannon McMackin]

On 06/03/2009 11:15 AM, ashin george wrote:

I'm a beginner and had got a Fedora core 7 in my Laptop., It worked fine
in the first days. But now on logging in to the desktop there is no
Panels or Icons in the desktop. Just the Wallpaper. The cursor appears
and it can be moved. I can't do anything., I just restarted. Done it
many times but same thing happens.
**
*Configuration*
Intel Celeron-M 560, 2.13/1M/533
512MB DDRII 667
80GB SATA HDD

To get past this immediate hurdle, I think you can delete the directory 
~/.gconf from a command-line and restart your machine.  Gnome will then 
re-create your desktop environment.


If you're using KDE, this doesn't apply...

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Re: Are you using LXDE?

[John Aldrich]

On Wednesday 03 June 2009, kira.lau...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> sudo yum install system-config-display and then run
> system-config-display. it will create a new xorg.conf file. or you can
> just run nvidia-xconfig if you have kmod package.
>
Thanks. That did it. Right now I'm logged in from remote on VNC, but when I 
get home, I'll let you know how switching to nouveau did as far as KDE 
goes. I think it may have helped, but I still think KDE is a bit of a 
resource hog. I have been using KDE/OpenBox. I can give straight KDE a shot 
and see if it helped any.

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Re: Two monitors, modelines, xorg.conf, and all that...

[Shannon McMackin]

On 06/03/2009 03:34 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:

I have a laptop whose widescreen LVDS reports these modelines
(correctly, afaik):

(II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x800"x59.8   83.50  1280 1352 1480 1680
800 803 809 831 -hsync -vsync (49.7 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x60.0   65.00  1024 1048 1184 1344
768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x60.3   40.00  800 840 968 1056  600
601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x59.9   25.18  640 656 752 800  480
490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz)

I also have a widescreen VGA monitor, reporting these:

(II) intel(0): Modeline "1680x1050"x59.9  119.00  1680 1728 1760 1840
1050 1053 1059 1080 +hsync -vsync (64.7 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1680x1050"x60.0  146.25  1680 1784 1960 2240
1050 1053 1059 1089 -hsync +vsync (65.3 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1400x1050"x60.0  122.00  1400 1488 1640 1880
1050 1052 1064 1082 +hsync +vsync (64.9 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x75.0  135.00  1280 1296 1440 1688
1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (80.0 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x60.0  108.00  1280 1328 1440 1688
1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (64.0 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1440x900"x75.0  136.75  1440 1536 1688 1936
900 903 909 942 -hsync +vsync (70.6 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1440x900"x59.9  106.50  1440 1520 1672 1904
900 903 909 934 -hsync +vsync (55.9 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1280x960"x60.0  108.00  1280 1376 1488 1800
960 961 964 1000 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1152x864"x75.0  108.00  1152 1216 1344 1600
864 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync (67.5 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x75.0   78.75  1024 1040 1136 1312
768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x70.1   75.00  1024 1048 1184 1328
768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (56.5 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x60.0   65.00  1024 1048 1184 1344
768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "832x624"x74.6   57.28  832 864 928 1152  624
625 628 667 -hsync -vsync (49.7 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x72.2   50.00  800 856 976 1040  600
637 643 666 +hsync +vsync (48.1 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x75.0   49.50  800 816 896 1056  600
601 604 625 +hsync +vsync (46.9 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x60.3   40.00  800 840 968 1056  600
601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x56.2   36.00  800 824 896 1024  600
601 603 625 +hsync +vsync (35.2 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x75.0   31.50  640 656 720 840  480
481 484 500 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x72.8   31.50  640 664 704 832  480
489 492 520 -hsync -vsync (37.9 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x75.0   31.50  640 656 720 840  480
481 484 500 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x59.9   25.18  640 656 752 800  480
490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz)
(II) intel(0): Modeline "720x400"x70.1   28.32  720 738 846 900  400
412 414 449 -hsync +vsync (31.5 kHz)

When I plug in the VGA, X chooses the highest common resolution, which
happens to be 1024x768. I can only ponder as to why a 22" VGA monitor
does not want to do 1280x800, but that's not the question. What I
would like to have is the following setup:

* when VGA is not plugged in, LVDS should be up with its native
resolution (1280x800)
* when VGA is plugged in, LVDS should be off, while VGA in its native
resolution (1680x1050)

It would be nice to have this hot-pluggable, but I don't mind
restarting X or the computer for the change. Can anybody tell me how
to configure xorg.conf to make this happen?

My current xorg.conf is fairly simple so far:


Section "ServerLayout"
 Identifier "X.org Configured"
 Screen "Screen0"
EndSection

Section "Device"
 Option  "AccelMethod"  "XAA"
 Identifier  "Card0"
 Driver  "intel"
 VendorName  "Intel Corporation"
 BoardName   "Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller"
 BusID   "PCI:0:2:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
 Identifier "Screen0"
 Device "Card0"
EndSection


The AccelMethod is set to XAA because of that famous intel random
lockup thing (it doesn't eliminate the bug, just makes it more rare),
everything else is autoconfigured.

Thanks, :-)
Marko

The display-settings applet should allow you to do this.  It won't be 
automatic, but it also won't take but a few mouse-clicks to do it. 
System - Preferences - Display.


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Re: No icons or panels in Desktop, just wallpaper

[Anne Wilson]

On Wednesday 03 June 2009 19:18:07 Shannon McMackin wrote:
> On 06/03/2009 11:15 AM, ashin george wrote:
> > I'm a beginner and had got a Fedora core 7 in my Laptop., It worked fine
> > in the first days. But now on logging in to the desktop there is no
> > Panels or Icons in the desktop. Just the Wallpaper. The cursor appears
> > and it can be moved. I can't do anything., I just restarted. Done it
> > many times but same thing happens.
> > **
> > *Configuration*
> > Intel Celeron-M 560, 2.13/1M/533
> > 512MB DDRII 667
> > 80GB SATA HDD
> >
> To get past this immediate hurdle, I think you can delete the directory 
> ~/.gconf from a command-line and restart your machine.  Gnome will then 
> re-create your desktop environment.
> 
> If you're using KDE, this doesn't apply...
> 
In which case, delete ~/.kde instead.

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Re: ibssl.so.7 ?!

[Martín Marqués]

El día 3 de junio de 2009 9:18, Martín Marqués
 escribió:
>
> As Jussi said, this is bad thing to do. If at any time the kde
> applications need to use some specific thing that is in libssl.so.7
> and not in libssl.so.8, you'll be doomed.

OK, finished preupgrade and now I want to upgrade the sistem with yum.
The problem is that some updates are not there. :-(

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Re: Blocking an IP for one user

[Robin Laing]

Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote:

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 05:53:19PM +0100, Paul wrote:

Hi,

My son is getting to that "funny" age whereby I need to keep certain
sites away from him.

Is there any way that I can block an IP address or certain keywords from
his user settings so that it doesn't matter which browser he uses, he
can't access them?

For example, I want to block the BBC websites wholesale or anything with
the words Microsoft, MSN or Hotmail in the URL - you get the idea - but
also an IP range such as 172.168.*.*


In the US most ISPs have parental tools that filter use those
if you have them in the UK.

Some home network boxes have tools.

The best strategy is to block the entire family including yourself.
Squid or another proxy tool is the foundation of more filters.

However children are clever.  Nothing will keep them out when they want in.
Kids have their own code words for 'stuff' and keep changing them...






I just read an article that Microsofts new "Bing" search engine will 
show preview videos of porn.  I guess you can "Bing" to the block.


I would look at the proxy issue and route the computer through a 
firewall/desktop server.  Most desktops now come with two ports.  A bit 
of wiring and home free.  Block the mac address at the router/firewall 
to it will only work through the proxy/firewall.


It takes some time to learn the firewall rules but the proxy may make it 
easier.


I feel it is better to train your children and trust them.  If they 
cannot feel free to discuss these issues at home, they will find it 
someplace else.


Have fun being a parent.  I know that I am.

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Re: Upgrade FC3 to FC10

[g]

Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:

> All joking aside, I don't see how you can avoid reinstalling your
> proprietary stuff under a more recent OS.

in all seriousness, i have wondered about this problem of upgrading from
an out of support version and have to ask,

is it not possible to pull old version iso's from archives and burn dvd's
to step thru versions to current using 'upgrade' feature?

granted, it would take some time to do, put if a user has software from
non red hat/fedora vendor, would this not be a way to retain them and
end up at current version of fedora?


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Re: Are you using LXDE?

[kira . laucas]

On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 09:27:27AM +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
> 2009/6/3  :
> > On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 08:27:09PM -0400, John Aldrich wrote:
> >> I don't HAVE an xorg.conf. How does one configure Fedora 10 to use the
> >> nouveau driver if one does not have an xorg.conf? I know that the "old" way
> >> used to be to hand-edit the xorg.conf, but since that doesn't exist any
> >> more, I'm at a loss for how to fix this. I know that it's installed as when
> >> I tried to install it earlier yum said it was already installed.
> >>
> > sudo yum install system-config-display and then run system-config-display. 
> > it will create a new xorg.conf file.
> > or you can just run nvidia-xconfig if you have kmod package.
> 
> Slight correction: to run nvidia-xconfig you need the
> xorg-x11-drv-nvidia package installed.
> 
> 
> 
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if one installs kmod-nvidia then xorg-xii-drv-nvidia also get installed as a 
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Re: environment variables

[Thufir]

On Mon, 01 Jun 2009 09:43:31 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:

> Thufir wrote:
>> Just curious about the best way to manage env var's.  I edited /etc/
>> profile which works fine, but what happens when a new version of java
>> gets installed?
>> 
>> 
> A better way is to add files to /etc/profile.d - you can use the ones
> there as examples. The ones with ending in .csh are used if you are
> using a c type shell, (csh, tcsh, etc) and the ones ending in .sh are
> for sh type shells. (sh, bash, zsh, etc)

I would assume that this is a common problem with a common solution 
represented in a repository.  Is that incorrect?


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Re: Upgrade FC3 to FC10

[Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)]

g wrote:

Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:






if a user has software from non red hat/fedora vendor,

That unfortunately is what cannot be guaranteed to work.
They may\should possible have a support contract with said vendors.

The ideal is to wipe and upgrade in this instance.

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Re: ibssl.so.7 ?!

[Germán Racca]

On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 09:18 -0300, Martín Marqués wrote:
> 2009/6/2 Germán Racca :
> >
> > Hello Martín, thanks for your answer.
> >
> > Well, as I have libssl.so.8 and libcrypto.so.8 installed, and KDE is
> > looking for libssl.so.7 and libcrypto.so.7, I decided to create the
> > symbolic links that KDE is looking for. I have the following:
> >
> > /usr/lib/libssl.so.8: symbolic link to `libssl.so.0.9.8k'
> > /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.8: symbolic link to `libcrypto.so.0.9.8k'
> >
> > so I have created the following symbolic links:
> >
> > /usr/lib/libssl.so.7: symbolic link to `libssl.so.0.9.8k'
> > /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.7: symbolic link to `libcrypto.so.0.9.8k'
> >
> > and with that now everything is working fine again.
> 
> As Jussi said, this is bad thing to do. If at any time the kde
> applications need to use some specific thing that is in libssl.so.7
> and not in libssl.so.8, you'll be doomed.
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Hello Martín:

You and Jussi are right, the problem is that I can't find the way to put
KDE to work again. Anyway, I recognize this is not the correct way. I
will still wait for help on this problem.

I always make a 'yum clean all' before updating. The 'yum update' says
'No Packages marked for Update'. I'll wait the results from your update.

Thanks!
Germán.

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Re: Upgrade FC3 to FC10

[g]

Frank Murphy (Frankly3d) wrote:

>> if a user has software from non red hat/fedora vendor,
> 
> That unfortunately is what cannot be guaranteed to work.

it would not be guaranteed to work if it depended on libs, etc, from
fedora.

but, it 3rd party software had it's own lib, etc, and used 'standard'
systems calls, 3ps would be independent from changes of lib, etc.

> They may\should possible have a support contract with said vendors.

that is without a doubt.

> The ideal is to wipe and upgrade in this instance.

not for op.

anyway, to my questioning, could updating system, to gain security
fixes and enhancements, not be done by pulling from archives and
stepping thru to a current version?


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Re: ibssl.so.7 ?!

[Martín Marqués]

2009/6/3 Germán Racca :
> On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 09:18 -0300, Martín Marqués wrote:
>> 2009/6/2 Germán Racca :
>> >
>> > Hello Martín, thanks for your answer.
>> >
>> > Well, as I have libssl.so.8 and libcrypto.so.8 installed, and KDE is
>> > looking for libssl.so.7 and libcrypto.so.7, I decided to create the
>> > symbolic links that KDE is looking for. I have the following:
>> >
>> > /usr/lib/libssl.so.8: symbolic link to `libssl.so.0.9.8k'
>> > /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.8: symbolic link to `libcrypto.so.0.9.8k'
>> >
>> > so I have created the following symbolic links:
>> >
>> > /usr/lib/libssl.so.7: symbolic link to `libssl.so.0.9.8k'
>> > /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.7: symbolic link to `libcrypto.so.0.9.8k'
>> >
>> > and with that now everything is working fine again.
>>
>> As Jussi said, this is bad thing to do. If at any time the kde
>> applications need to use some specific thing that is in libssl.so.7
>> and not in libssl.so.8, you'll be doomed.
>
> Hello Martín:
>
> You and Jussi are right, the problem is that I can't find the way to put
> KDE to work again. Anyway, I recognize this is not the correct way. I
> will still wait for help on this problem.
>
> I always make a 'yum clean all' before updating. The 'yum update' says
> 'No Packages marked for Update'. I'll wait the results from your update.

Problem solved. enable rawhide repository:

# yum update --enablerepo=rawhide kde\*

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Re: environment variables

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

Thufir wrote:
> On Mon, 01 Jun 2009 09:43:31 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> 
>> Thufir wrote:
>>> Just curious about the best way to manage env var's.  I edited /etc/
>>> profile which works fine, but what happens when a new version of java
>>> gets installed?
>>>
>>>
>> A better way is to add files to /etc/profile.d - you can use the ones
>> there as examples. The ones with ending in .csh are used if you are
>> using a c type shell, (csh, tcsh, etc) and the ones ending in .sh are
>> for sh type shells. (sh, bash, zsh, etc)
> 
> I would assume that this is a common problem with a common solution 
> represented in a repository.  Is that incorrect?
> 
What happens is that packages manage their own files in the
/etc/profile.d directory. It gets a bit more complicated when you
can have 2 or more packages that offer the same function, but you
can only have one in use at a time. This is where Alternatives
Configurator  and the /etc/alternatives directory come in. It lets
you do things like chose between packages like Postfix or Sendmail.
It lets you pick what version of Java you are going to use.

These are all managing things on a system level. You can also manage
some things on a per-user basis. This is where things like .bashrc,
bash_profile, etc come in.

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Re: ibssl.so.7 ?!

[Germán Racca]

On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 16:45 -0300, Martín Marqués wrote:

> Problem solved. enable rawhide repository:
> 
> # yum update --enablerepo=rawhide kde\*
> 
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But not for me. I have already done it. I did it again, as you can see:

[ger...@centauri ~]$ sudo yum update --enablerepo=rawhide kde\*
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, presto, refresh-packagekit
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
 * fedora: mirror.hiwaay.net
 * fusion: www.lordmorgul.net
 * livna: rpm.livna.org
 * rawhide: mirror.hiwaay.net
 * rpmfusion-free: mirror.liberty.edu
 * rpmfusion-free-updates: mirror.liberty.edu
 * rpmfusion-nonfree: mirror.liberty.edu
 * rpmfusion-nonfree-updates: mirror.liberty.edu
 * updates: fedora.c3sl.ufpr.br
Setting up Update Process
No Packages marked for Update

Thanks,
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Re: Skype under Fedora-10

[Linux Media]

Incidentally, is there any alternative to Skype
that works under Linux and Windows XP?



Until someone hacks the proprietary Skype system, and I haven't seen any
notice that someone has, you're not going to see a non-Skype program
that can connect to other Skype programs.



Skype's a lousy idea, for various reasons, and that's just one of them.



A blanket statement bound to generate flames if I ever saw one.  I might
as well start the flame fest.

I disagree, Tim.  Skype is a good idea.  There are bits that could be
done better, but parts of the service require quite a bit of capital
investment and there has to be a way to fund that.  Subscriptions is
one way.

When I was in Europe two years ago, I was able to call my mother in the
USA on her land line to check on her (she's 80 and lives alone).  The
cost using Skype was easily less than 25% of what it would have cost me
using my cell phone and standard connections.

That ability alone as well as the converse (permitting regular telephone
users such as my mother the ability to contact my computer via a phone
number) is terrific.  My mom is something of a technophobe.  She'll deal
with the phone, but will have nothing whatsoever to do with computers
(took me weeks to teach her how to use the OnStar in her car...and that
uses voice commands!).

You don't need to hack the system.  Use H.323/SIP clients (ekiga, etc.)
and talk computer-to-computer all you want.  I don't buy the "if it's on
the  Internet it HAS to be free, therefore we should hack into it"
mantra.  If it's something that services a need I have, I don't mind
paying for it--in fact I expect to.  I don't believe in entitlements of
any sort.  In Skype's case, someone's got to pick up the bill for the
PBX systems.  They only charge if you intend to use the PBX anyway.  Do
you prepay your cell minutes?  I'm always dumbfounded by people who do
that yet expect their Internet access to be free.

Do I wish their Linux client was more solid?  Yes.  Do I wish they had a
native 64-bit version?  Yes.  Do I wish it was open source and able to 
be improved upon by others?  Yes.  However, even in its current state it

works (even with PulseAudio) and I'm fine with it and their service.

Your mileage may vary.


I just wanted to speak up also and say that I agree that it's a good 
program. I've been telling anyone that wants to use Skype that it's one 
of the easiest, trouble free programs to install and use.


The people behind Skype clearly went out of their way to create a 
program that works and is easy to understand/use.


Sheesh they even have that very simple "User" called "Test Call" for 
testing that your sound is working correctly. So simple... so 
strait-forward.


I would have to vote Skype the best Multi-platform program that I've 
used with Linux.


Rocco

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SOLVED:) Re: Fix /boot/grub/grub.conf to chainload Fedora 11 Preview?? and Fedora 9 with chainloader

[Antonio Olivares]

--- On Wed, 6/3/09, Mikkel L. Ellertson  wrote:

> From: Mikkel L. Ellertson 
> Subject: Re: Fix /boot/grub/grub.conf to chainload Fedora 11 Preview?? and 
> Fedora 9 with chainloader
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." 
> 
> Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 8:13 AM
> Antonio Olivares wrote:
> > Dear fellow Fedoreans,
> > 
> > I have a machine which Windows, and Fedora 9 have
> coexisted happily since Fedora 9 was released.  I
> shrunk the Windows Partition a bit more and setup an empty
> place where I installed Fedora 11 Preview(to update it to
> current Fedora 11 pre or rawhide whichever gets picked up
> via updates)
> > 
> > Now I can boot windows and Fedora 11, but can't boot
> Fedora 9, everything is in there I can see the data, I just
> can't boot it.  Here's output of fdisk and grub.conf
> for both Fedora 9 and Fedora 11?? soon to be
> > 
> > 
> This would have been easier to fix before installing the
> new
> version. Probably the fastest fix is to boot the new
> install, and
> re-install Grub to the boot record of /boot. The boot in
> the rescue
> mode of the install DVD or boot CD. Tell it you want to
> fix
> re-install the boot loader of the F9 install. After
> rebooting into
> F9, edit grub and add a chainloader entry to the F11 /boot
> directory. You can use the Windows entry as an example.
> 
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> 
> 
> -Inline Attachment Follows-
> 
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Thanks Mikkel, 

But it does not work.  However, cutting and pasting the Fedora 9 grub entries 
for the kernel lets me boot into Fedora 9, so practically it is a DONE deal.  
Thanks for answering the mail much appreciated.  The chainloader stuff did not 
work in this case, in the other case it worked for a while, but the chainloader 
stuff failed to load those kernels only GRUB_ appeared on the screen so 
cutting+pasting the entries solved this issue.  

Regards,

Antonio 


  

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Re: Upgrade FC3 to FC10

[Wolfgang S. Rupprecht]

g  writes:
> is it not possible to pull old version iso's from archives and burn dvd's
> to step thru versions to current using 'upgrade' feature?

Before the recent preupgrade from f10 to f11/rawhide I've never had an
upgraded that worked well enough to use.  Things might have seemed to
work for a wile, but there were a lot of rough edges.  Doing a long
string of upgrades would just compound the problem.  Sure he can try,
but *I* wouldn't bother.

Half the advantage of doing an upgrade is that one gets to blow away
one's hacked-to-death config files that one did years ago when one
didn't understand things as well.

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RE: Upgrade FC3 to FC10

[Moessbauer, David]

Thanks.  Have come to conclusion that fresh install and a recompile of
source material is the answer. 

-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: Upgrade FC3 to FC10


g  writes:
> is it not possible to pull old version iso's from archives and burn 
> dvd's to step thru versions to current using 'upgrade' feature?

Before the recent preupgrade from f10 to f11/rawhide I've never had an
upgraded that worked well enough to use.  Things might have seemed to
work for a wile, but there were a lot of rough edges.  Doing a long
string of upgrades would just compound the problem.  Sure he can try,
but *I* wouldn't bother.

Half the advantage of doing an upgrade is that one gets to blow away
one's hacked-to-death config files that one did years ago when one
didn't understand things as well.

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Grub problem.

[Erik P. Olsen]

I am currently running a Fedora 10 system, raid1 and 32 bit. I have build a
Fedora 11 preview system, this time 64 bit, on the disk from which I boot
F10. I have not been able to chainload F11 from F10's grub.conf. Is it at
all possible to do that or is there a conflict between the 32 and 64 bit
systems which prevents the chainload?

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RE: Upgrade FC3 to FC10

[Jussi Lehtola]

Quoting "Moessbauer, David" :

Thanks.  Have come to conclusion that fresh install and a recompile of
source material is the answer.


.. unless you switch to CentOS 4, which is more reasonable simply on  
the ground that the support time is bigger than in Fedora (7 years  
compared to 1 year). [CentOS 4 still has 3 years of support left.]

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Re: Questions with rsync

[Cameron Simpson]

On 03Jun2009 11:00, Rick Stevens  wrote:
> GMS S wrote:
> I use this sort of thing with a 500GB USB drive (automounted at
> "/media/500GB-Drive" by Gnome):
>
>   #!/bin/bash
>   # Back up system to a specific directory given on the command
>   # line or a default based on today's date.  Excludes the /proc,
>   # /sys, /dev and /media directories
>   MYHOST=`hostname`
>   TODAY=`date +%d-%b-%Y`
>   if [ $# -lt 1 ]; then
>   TGT="/media/500GB-Drive/$MYHOST-BackUp-$TODAY"
>   else
>   TGT=$1
>   fi
>
>   rsync -avXA --exclude-from=/etc/skipdirs.rsync / $TGT
>
> with /etc/skipdirs.rsync containing:
[...]

I use an extra level of complexity on top of this approach: I hard link
the previous backup directory to the new date, then rsync to the new
date. This makes the cost-per-backup just the incremental cost of
changed files; unchanged files are thus hardlinked from the previous
backup.

Code here:
  http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/css/bin/histbackup

Then:

  mkdir -p /media/500GB-Drive/backups
  histbackup -x / /media/500GB-Drive/backups -X

Histbackup automatically honours a .hbinclude file in the
backup area as an '--include-from' option, so you'd set up
/media/500GB-Drive/backups/.hbinclude as required.

There's a bunch of similar rsync-based backup scripts on the web for
this purpose.

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[SOLVED] Re: ibssl.so.7 ?!

[Germán Racca]

On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 16:52 -0300, Germán Racca wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 16:45 -0300, Martín Marqués wrote:
> 
> > Problem solved. enable rawhide repository:
> > 
> > # yum update --enablerepo=rawhide kde\*
> > 
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> > DBA, Programador, Administrador
> 
> But not for me. I have already done it. I did it again, as you can see:
> 
> [ger...@centauri ~]$ sudo yum update --enablerepo=rawhide kde\*
> Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, presto, refresh-packagekit
> Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
>  * fedora: mirror.hiwaay.net
>  * fusion: www.lordmorgul.net
>  * livna: rpm.livna.org
>  * rawhide: mirror.hiwaay.net
>  * rpmfusion-free: mirror.liberty.edu
>  * rpmfusion-free-updates: mirror.liberty.edu
>  * rpmfusion-nonfree: mirror.liberty.edu
>  * rpmfusion-nonfree-updates: mirror.liberty.edu
>  * updates: fedora.c3sl.ufpr.br
> Setting up Update Process
> No Packages marked for Update
> 
> Thanks,
> Germán.
Hi all:

My problem was solved after enabling the repository 'updates-testing' as
shown below:

[ger...@centauri ~]$ sudo yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update

I greatly appreciate the contribution of all the people that answered my
e-mails, specially Martín (un fuerte abrazo!!!). Sorry for my bad
English.

Thanks a lot,
Germán.

P.S. obviously I've erased all those symbolic links I created
yesterday ;-)

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Re: Questions with rsync

[Mail Lists]

On 06/03/2009 06:13 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> On 03Jun2009 11:00, Rick Stevens  wrote:
>> GMS S wrote:

> I use an extra level of complexity on top of this approach: I hard link
> the previous backup directory to the new date, then rsync to the new

  A simpler (and far superior) way is to use rdiff-backup - it keeps a
top level total backup - and incrementals going back as far as you want.
I am running backups every 2 hours - and will reduce to hourly. It takes
a while the first time like basic rsync - and it uses rsync library (ie
same technology as rsync).

 Strongly recommended.

gene

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Re: Questions with rsync

[Steven Stern]

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On 06/03/2009 05:02 AM, GMS S wrote:
> Will this command do the job for backup?
> 
> rsync -vpa / /home/user/backup
> 
> How would I exclude these files below:
> 
> /lost+found
> /media
> /mnt
> 
> and others which I do not need.
> 
> And what is the compression lever by rsync (using -a option)?
> 
> 
>   
> 
Here's my full-system rsync backup script. It goes to an external USB drive.

#! /bin/sh
cd /media/MyBookLX/sds-desk
rm -fr backup.9
mv backup.8 backup.9
mv backup.7 backup.8
mv backup.6 backup.7
mv backup.5 backup.6
mv backup.4 backup.5
mv backup.3 backup.4
mv backup.2 backup.3
mv backup.1 backup.2
cp -al backup backup.1

touch /last_backup_ts
rsync -va --exclude-from /usr/local/bin/do-backup-excludes --delete /
/media/MyBookLX/sds-desk/backup/

The exclude list is

/home/*/.gvfs/
/home/*/.google/
/home/*/.dbus/
/home/*/.fonts/
/proc
/tmp
/var/tmp
/media
/sys
/dev

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Re: Questions with rsync

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 10:05 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 03:02 -0700, GMS S wrote:
> > Will this command do the job for backup?
> > 
> > rsync -vpa / /home/user/backup
> 
> Er, isn't this recursive?

What I meant to say was "isn't this an infinite loop?" The entire
filesystem rooted at / is being copied into one of its subtrees.

The answer is that rsync is clever enough to avoid this (I tried it on a
test directory), but I'm not sure if I'd like to rely on this behaviour
as it doesn't appear to be documented.

My personal preference is rsnapshot, which does everything people have
been claiming for their own personal rsync scripts (it also uses rsync
of course), but is actually maintained in the standard repos.

poc

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Re: Questions with rsync

[Gordon Messmer]

On 06/03/2009 06:05 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 10:05 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 03:02 -0700, GMS S wrote:

Will this command do the job for backup?

rsync -vpa / /home/user/backup

Er, isn't this recursive?


What I meant to say was "isn't this an infinite loop?" The entire
filesystem rooted at / is being copied into one of its subtrees.

The answer is that rsync is clever enough to avoid this (I tried it on a
test directory),


Try it a second time.

rsync ain't that smart.  The only reason it worked the first time is 
that rsync built a list of files/directories to copy before it copied 
them.  With rsync 3, it only builds that list for one directory at a 
time.  Older versions built the entire list before beginning.  You'll 
get different results with the two versions, IIRC.


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rsync to clone server A to server B concerns?

[Paul Ward]

Hi,

I want to clone server A to server B using rsync.

If server A is RHEL3 on a hardware mirror and I have a newer server B
that has new hardware and needs to be the same can I use rsync to copy
the OS and installed oracle installation?

My plan is to boot both servers up on a live cd, then copy the data
across the network.
I will first install a minimal install of RHEL3 on server b first then
use rsync.
I am concerned if the server will work afterwards due to different
hardware although both servers are IBM, and other issues like grub,
should I avoid updating grub.

Any advice would be welcome as doing the whole build from fresh and
installing all the custom software would be a pain.

Cheers

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Re: Questions with rsync

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 19:02 -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> On 06/03/2009 06:05 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 10:05 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> >> On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 03:02 -0700, GMS S wrote:
> >>> Will this command do the job for backup?
> >>>
> >>> rsync -vpa / /home/user/backup
> >> Er, isn't this recursive?
> >
> > What I meant to say was "isn't this an infinite loop?" The entire
> > filesystem rooted at / is being copied into one of its subtrees.
> >
> > The answer is that rsync is clever enough to avoid this (I tried it on a
> > test directory),
> 
> Try it a second time.
> 
> rsync ain't that smart.  The only reason it worked the first time is 
> that rsync built a list of files/directories to copy before it copied 
> them.  With rsync 3, it only builds that list for one directory at a 
> time.  Older versions built the entire list before beginning.  You'll 
> get different results with the two versions, IIRC.

Make sense. Even more reason to avoid the above incantation and use a
standard package.

poc

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Re: rsync to clone server A to server B concerns?

[Sam Varshavchik]

Paul Ward writes:


Hi,

I want to clone server A to server B using rsync.

If server A is RHEL3 on a hardware mirror and I have a newer server B
that has new hardware and needs to be the same can I use rsync to copy
the OS and installed oracle installation?


Yes, as long as the partition layout is more or less the same.

rsync won't copy over the bootloader. After the rsync completes, use the 
installation CD to boot into rescue mode, chroot to /mnt/sysimage, then run 
/sbin/grub-install.



I am concerned if the server will work afterwards due to different
hardware although both servers are IBM, and other issues like grub,
should I avoid updating grub.


As long as the hard drives have the same physical arrangement and 
partitioning, this'll work. Kudzu may go bonkers on the first boot, but it 
should figure things out. Note that if your newer hardware is not supported 
by RHEL3's older kernel, no rsync will help you. That's always a 
possibility.




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Re: Questions with rsync

[GMS S]

Thank guys for your reply.


  

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Re: rsync to clone server A to server B concerns?

[Paul Ward]

That's what I was hoping for, I was going to ensure kudzu service is
running before hand.

As for the kernel I will have to check the version on server A against
the install discs to ensure they are the same.

Cheers for your reply


2009/6/4 Sam Varshavchik :
> Paul Ward writes:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I want to clone server A to server B using rsync.
>>
>> If server A is RHEL3 on a hardware mirror and I have a newer server B
>> that has new hardware and needs to be the same can I use rsync to copy
>> the OS and installed oracle installation?
>
> Yes, as long as the partition layout is more or less the same.
>
> rsync won't copy over the bootloader. After the rsync completes, use the
> installation CD to boot into rescue mode, chroot to /mnt/sysimage, then run
> /sbin/grub-install.
>
>> I am concerned if the server will work afterwards due to different
>> hardware although both servers are IBM, and other issues like grub,
>> should I avoid updating grub.
>
> As long as the hard drives have the same physical arrangement and
> partitioning, this'll work. Kudzu may go bonkers on the first boot, but it
> should figure things out. Note that if your newer hardware is not supported
> by RHEL3's older kernel, no rsync will help you. That's always a
> possibility.
>
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Re: Grub problem.

[g]

Erik P. Olsen wrote:
> I am currently running a Fedora 10 system, raid1 and 32 bit. I have build a
> Fedora 11 preview system, this time 64 bit, on the disk from which I boot
> F10. I have not been able to chainload F11 from F10's grub.conf. Is it at
> all possible to do that or is there a conflict between the 32 and 64 bit
> systems which prevents the chainload?

have you considered adding f11 to your f10's /boot/grub/grub.config'?

all you need to do is copy and past your f11's 'title' and next 3 lines
to bottom of your f10's grub.conf and select at boot which you want.

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Re: Questions with rsync

[GMS S]

[
Here's my full-system rsync backup script. It goes to an external USB drive.

#! /bin/sh
cd /media/MyBookLX/sds-desk
rm -fr backup.9
mv backup.8 backup.9
mv backup.7 backup.8
mv backup.6 backup.7
mv backup.5 backup.6
mv backup.4 backup.5
mv backup.3 backup.4
mv backup.2 backup.3
mv backup.1 backup.2
cp -al backup backup.1

touch /last_backup_ts
rsync -va --exclude-from /usr/local/bin/do-backup-excludes --delete /
/media/MyBookLX/sds-desk/backup/

The exclude list is

/home/*/.gvfs/
/home/*/.google/
/home/*/.dbus/
/home/*/.fonts/
/proc
/tmp
/var/tmp
/media
/sys
/dev

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]

There are so many backup.1,backup.2,backup.3 ... files.Why?
How did these files come?
Did you create these 9 files in the external USB?


  

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