Re: Is there any forum like site for fedora-list
On 06/04/2009 08:50 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 06/05/2009 12:11 AM, GMS S wrote: If I post there with new username then will it count with fedora-list account or will it count as seperate account starting from 0 post. Is it possible to post there with the fedora-list account? I do not run the forum. You will have to ask the person who does. CC'ing Harald Hoyer. Rahul I can change your username and password, so that it will match your other postings. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F11- experience with btrfs?
I'm considering a clean f11 install with btrfs (raid0 across 2 drives). What are experiences with btrfs on F11 so far? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11- experience with btrfs?
On 06/05/2009 03:47 PM, Neal Becker wrote: > I'm considering a clean f11 install with btrfs (raid0 across 2 drives). > > What are experiences with btrfs on F11 so far? Btrfs as mentioned in the release notes is a experimental option for a filesystem under heavy development. Don't trust your data with it, yet. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Skype under Fedora-10
Rick Stevens wrote: > You don't need to hack the system. Use H.323/SIP clients (ekiga, etc.) > and talk computer-to-computer all you want. I don't buy the "if it's on > the Internet it HAS to be free, therefore we should hack into it" > mantra. If it's something that services a need I have, I don't mind > paying for it--in fact I expect to. Surely one doesn't have to pay for Skype if it is used through the computer at each end? Even my wife can do this, so it can't be that difficult. Incidentally, I looked at various alternatives. I came to the conclusion that asterisk would require several weeks, if not months, of study, while even ekiga challenged my weakening brain-cells. I thought of getting a SIP-able Siemen's phone, but didn't get round to it. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Skype under Fedora-10
Suvayu Ali wrote: >> Perhaps they are talking about transferring contacts between Skype >> accounts, not merely a new system user who uses the same Skype >> account. That is indeed what I was talking about. > I don't think that would be possible by just copying over a file > locally. The contacts have to be present on their servers associated > with the new account. Having it locally wouldn't be enough. Isn't that > correct? No. It is possible since I did it, under Windows XP. You Backup your contacts to a file, transfer that file to the other user, who can then Restore the contacts to their Skype system. I don't know if this is possible under Linux. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Skype under Fedora-10
Linux Media wrote: > I just wanted to speak up also and say that I agree that it's a good > program. I've been telling anyone that wants to use Skype that it's one > of the easiest, trouble free programs to install and use. I found it reasonably easy to install under Fedora, but I had problems with the Audio setup on both computers I used (EeePC and Thinkpad). In both cases I had to go to the Options setting, which is in a rather odd place at the bottom of the page, and change the Default Sound setting to the first option, which was for the particular machine. I'm not at all clear what the "default" sound setting could be? I'd give the program 7/10 for installation and use under Linux, and 9/10 under Windows XP. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Consultation on more transparent proxy in iptables fedora 10
Consultation on more transparent proxy in iptables fedora 10 What happens one of my internal network ip outside the transparent proxy, there are some special rules that may add to the iptables. And probe a little bit of everything and I can not navigate outside of the proxy If someone can put me? Thank you !! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Pulseaudio logging in F11
On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 06:34:15PM +0200, Björn Sund wrote: > I have started to get some PA hiccups, but I have problem to see what is > happening since PA don't do any logging as default? There is a settable log-level parameter in /etc/pulse/daemon.donf. You can do 'man pulse-daemon.conf' to read about the setting. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Display issue in Fedora 10
Hi I have Dell PIV machine and I installed Fedora 10. I Enabled "Desktop Effects" and now my screen is blank. How I restore my setting or disable desktop effects. Thanks & Regards Adeel Akbar -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
VNC for fedora10 has a bug?
Hi folks! I am new in the list, I came from Fedora Argentina. Last night, I can run my micro distro with a 486 and 4MB ram + vnc client to a Fedora 10 vnc server. The cuestion is that a lot of time troubleshooting the implementation of server and find a typo in the package vnc-config-ltsp of group of packages LTSP from fedora (the typo is in the declaration of service 800*600*16 colours in vncts that have into the /etc/xinetd.d, that have a little 'x' more little that usual! and the vnc client give me a error! just replace the strange 'x' for a regular x into the argument 'server_args' in the declaration of geometry), when I connect the server give me in same time 2 instances of gdmgreeter!!! in short: when I connect I can see too login screen one on top of the other, and I when I login with a user, this can enter fine, but still I have the login screen mix with the Desktop!!! I can not out from sessions! I never seen that before... Some idea? The configuration of vnc server and xinetd is the same that k12ltsp centos5 Thank you for read! Alberto Castillo PD: I edit the mail. that have find that only with resolution 800*600*16 occurs this. In 640*480*16 do not have problems, I revisited all the code and I do not find anything wrong. Thank you and so sorry for bad english! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
bug report application
Is there an aplication for reporting bugs like the one anaconda uses? It's kind of frustrating having to login to bugzilla y fill in a report when it could be automated in an local app which connects to bugzilla for information. Something like reportbug in Debian. -- Martín Marqués select 'martin.marques' || '@' || 'gmail.com' DBA, Programador, Administrador -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: network question - is this unusual?
Anne Wilson wrote: > Isn't it unusual to connect the modem to the DSL socket on the router? The > only time I've set up one where I had to use the supplied modem I used the > router as a switch, connecting the modem to one of the LAN sockets. > > Anne > It is very common when you have a modem that does not have a firewall/router build in. This is especially true when you only get one IP address, and use NAT so you can have more then one computer with access to the Internet. Most home users, as well as small business users, are using the firewall, dhcp server, and NAT features of the firewall/router. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: VNC for fedora10 has a bug?
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 10:15:39AM -0300, Alberto Castillo wrote: > Hi folks! > I am new in the list, I came from Fedora Argentina. > Last night, I can run my micro distro with a 486 and 4MB ram + vnc > client to a Fedora 10 vnc server. > The cuestion is that a lot of time troubleshooting the implementation > of server and find a typo in the package vnc-config-ltsp of group of > packages LTSP from fedora (the typo is in the declaration of service > 800*600*16 colours in vncts that have into the /etc/xinetd.d, that > have a little 'x' more little that usual! and the vnc client give me a > error! just replace the strange 'x' for a regular x into the argument > 'server_args' in the declaration of geometry), when I connect the > server give me in same time 2 instances of gdmgreeter!!! > > in short: when I connect I can see too login screen one on top of the > other, and I when I login with a user, this can enter fine, but still > I have the login screen mix with the Desktop!!! > I can not out from sessions! > I never seen that before... > Some idea? > > The configuration of vnc server and xinetd is the same that k12ltsp centos5 > Thank you for read! > Alberto Castillo > > PD: I edit the mail. that have find that only with resolution > 800*600*16 occurs this. In 640*480*16 do not have problems, I > revisited all the code and I do not find anything wrong. > Thank you and so sorry for bad english! Hi Alberto, please file this as a bug in Bugzilla, against the 'vnc-config-ltsp' package: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/ -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
config network-manager
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bonjour, I know! Network-manager takes care of you and thinks for you and there is no reason why you may want to configure it. Anyway, at home I have my network with cables, switch and server and I *want* to connect my laptop on it but there are so many "free" wifi around than network-manager, without any question, chooses to connect first my computer to the Internet using my neighbour wifi. How can change this and definitely tell network-manager that it can connect to a wifi *only if I ask it to do so!* Thanks for helping. - -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél. +33 (0)1 4286 2145 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkopKJgACgkQdE6C2dhV2JWVTQCfX9HbKsiojdvtLAbQK1/+YN5W Us4AoMNmL9AV1MasR23eVtAuMyHKatBm =mWnP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: network question - is this unusual?
On Friday 05 June 2009 14:41:31 Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > Anne Wilson wrote: > > Isn't it unusual to connect the modem to the DSL socket on the router? The > > only time I've set up one where I had to use the supplied modem I used the > > router as a switch, connecting the modem to one of the LAN sockets. > > > > Anne > > > It is very common when you have a modem that does not have a > firewall/router build in. This is especially true when you only get > one IP address, and use NAT so you can have more then one computer > with access to the Internet. Most home users, as well as small > business users, are using the firewall, dhcp server, and NAT > features of the firewall/router. > I see. So I need to find out whether my daughter's BT router (with a single connection socket) contains a firewall or not. I would have preferred to get rid of it, but it seems to be tied in - they don't allow you access to any settings whatsoever, as far as I can see, so you can't just replace it with a standard router. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: config network-manager
On 06/05/2009 10:15 AM, François Patte wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bonjour, I know! Network-manager takes care of you and thinks for you and there is no reason why you may want to configure it. Anyway, at home I have my network with cables, switch and server and I *want* to connect my laptop on it but there are so many "free" wifi around than network-manager, without any question, chooses to connect first my computer to the Internet using my neighbour wifi. How can change this and definitely tell network-manager that it can connect to a wifi *only if I ask it to do so!* Thanks for helping. - -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél. +33 (0)1 4286 2145 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkopKJgACgkQdE6C2dhV2JWVTQCfX9HbKsiojdvtLAbQK1/+YN5W Us4AoMNmL9AV1MasR23eVtAuMyHKatBm =mWnP -END PGP SIGNATURE- If you right-click on the NM applet icon, you can choose to disable wireless while at home. Then it will only process your wired connections. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: network question - is this unusual?
On Fri, 2009-06-05 at 15:29 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Friday 05 June 2009 14:41:31 Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > > Anne Wilson wrote: > > > Isn't it unusual to connect the modem to the DSL socket on the router? > The > > > only time I've set up one where I had to use the supplied modem I used > > > the > > > router as a switch, connecting the modem to one of the LAN sockets. > > > > > > Anne > > > > > It is very common when you have a modem that does not have a > > firewall/router build in. This is especially true when you only get > > one IP address, and use NAT so you can have more then one computer > > with access to the Internet. Most home users, as well as small > > business users, are using the firewall, dhcp server, and NAT > > features of the firewall/router. > > > I see. So I need to find out whether my daughter's BT router (with a single > connection socket) contains a firewall or not. > > I would have preferred to get rid of it, but it seems to be tied in - they > don't allow you access to any settings whatsoever, as far as I can see, so > you can't just replace it with a standard router. Have you tried browsing to 192.168.2.1 (or whatever the default routing address is in your case) from inside your network? Most modern routers contain a small web server for configuration. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kernel update broke my system.
Smith, Herb wrote, On 05/29/2009 02:27 PM: Can't boot into anything when all you get is the GRUB_ prompt. Wrote to the help me list to figure out what to do to get my system back. Once I get it back I'll be able to try a lot of different things. From the respones of some, it seems that it's an issue with GRUB, but it's unclear that there is an underlying kernel issue or not. It would seem that the kernel might be ok, but just that GRUB got hosed in the update process. Which is why I am still curious ... On an installed system, WHY do we need to reinstall _grub_ when there is a kernel UPDATE? https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2008-October/msg01189.html https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=432555 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=472829 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=450143 Yes there may be/probably is a problem with grub or the grub reinstall process, but to what purpose (besides to keep this set of bugs open) is grub being reinstalled for a kernel update. What is the problem that reinstalling grub with kernel updates is solving? Granted I am assuming that it is something other than the kernel maintainer is just too lazy to remove the grub reinstall calls from either the kernel spec file or /sbin/new-kernel-pkg. Yes, I do realize that the previous kernel is still there, but was also curious as to what could cause this. It appears, from the lack of traffic on the topic that not many have had this issue. Wondered if it was a hiccup in the download process that caused an install to go bad, or if there was something unique to my system that caused it to go bad... Sorry for trying to understand... Herb Smith -Original Message- From: David [mailto:dgbo...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 12:49 PM To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. Subject: Re: Kernel update broke my system. On 5/29/2009 1:16 PM, David Burns wrote: Is there a way to test whether my system has this problem without rebooting? Dave the Updater is doing that job, and it nuked my system too. You do realize that the kernel that was running when you did the update is still installed? This one that "broke my system.". This one that "nuked my system too.". And that you can boot into it instead of this new one? Why don't you do that and report this kernel problem to bugzilla? That would surely get the attention of the kernel maintainers more effectively than post to a general 'help me' list. -- -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: update to F11 with yum
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 06/05/2009 05:07 AM, Alan Evans wrote: > >> I recall some time ago, perhaps FC8 or 9, that trying to remove >> wireless-tools would threaten to remove nearly every package on the >> system, including the kernel. Was that because yum was broken? It was >> certainly threatening to remove something that it shouldn't. > > No. It wasn't a bug in yum but the way things are packaged. Yum is > correctly doing its job. I think that was my point. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F10 and Amarok 2.x (Would prefer 1.x)
Greetings, With F10 and Amarok, I would prefer to use version 1.x instead of 2.x - That being said, I really dislike the new however, I can appreciate the inclusion of MySQL. Anyways, more to the point - is there a repo I can use/set to allow me the choice of Amarok versions opposed to using the newest? -- Best regards, Chris () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments "There's no place like 127.0.0.1" -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: config network-manager
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 05/06/2009 16:40, Shannon McMackin a écrit : > On 06/05/2009 10:15 AM, François Patte wrote: > Bonjour, > > I know! Network-manager takes care of you and thinks for you and > there is no reason why you may want to configure it. > > Anyway, at home I have my network with cables, switch and server and I > *want* to connect my laptop on it but there are so many "free" wifi > around than network-manager, without any question, chooses to connect > first my computer to the Internet using my neighbour wifi. > > How can change this and definitely tell network-manager that it can > connect to a wifi *only if I ask it to do so!* > > Thanks for helping. > >> > If you right-click on the NM applet icon, you can choose to disable > wireless while at home. Then it will only process your wired connections. Thanks. I have seen this. But everytime I reboot the system, wired and wireless connection are ticked and everytime nm chooses to connect trough wireless Is there somewhere a config file where I can tell nm that the default connection is the wired one. - -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél. +33 (0)1 4286 2145 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkopODcACgkQdE6C2dhV2JWk4ACgv5GVWU1YWHe5EUaknG8Kr4es bcgAn3Ex4rzcqgw0AOnF4jZGULKYh+K4 =Nz8P -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10 and Amarok 2.x (Would prefer 1.x)
Chris wrote: > With F10 and Amarok, I would prefer to use version 1.x instead of 2.x - > That being said, I really dislike the new however, I can appreciate > the inclusion of MySQL. > > Anyways, more to the point - is there a repo I can use/set to allow me > the choice of Amarok versions opposed to using the newest? I don't know the answer to your question, but I know that amarok-2.1¹ has recently been queued for F-10². If you haven't already looked to see if that improves upon the things you found lacking in the 2.x series, it may be worth testing. ¹ http://amarok.kde.org/en/releases/2.1 ² https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/amarok-2.1-0.9.fc10 -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ I advise you to go on living solely to enrage those who are paying your annuities. It is the only pleasure I have left. -- Voltaire pgpI7G03Y9hFo.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Skype under Fedora-10
Gabriel Ramirez wrote: > the only one alternative in opensource was jabber No, there's SIP too. At least Ekiga supports video in addition to audio. > I discarded SIP because is create another account So why do you say earlier that there's only Jabber? That said, at least the M$N protocol is supported by Free Software, unlike the Skype one. So it's not that big a problem. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Skype under Fedora-10
Timothy Murphy wrote: > Surely one doesn't have to pay for Skype > if it is used through the computer at each end? Free as in beer != Free as in speech > I came to the conclusion that asterisk would require > several weeks, if not months, of study, Asterisk is for when you want to run your own SIP server. You don't have to, you can just use one of the existing ones. > while even ekiga challenged my weakening brain-cells. Just go through the wizard. There's even a link to an SIP provider (ekiga.net) where you can register an account in that wizard. But you could use any SIP provider of your choice. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Something bollixing packagekit
When I click the launcher for gpk-update-viewer, it gets an error popup saying "No network connection available," even though one is, and every other app is using it. The "Details" in the popup say merely "Cannot refresh cache whilst offline." If I close the popup, the update viewer will eventually find, download, and install the updates. But if I launch gpk-application itself, I am unable to add or remove any software. It hits the same popup, and unlike the updater, it stops cold when I close the popup. How do I tell it to wake up and smell the coffee?? -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: config network-manager
On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:22:31 +0200 François Patte wrote: > Thanks. I have seen this. But everytime I reboot the system, wired and > wireless connection are ticked and everytime nm chooses to connect > trough wireless > > Is there somewhere a config file where I can tell nm that the default > connection is the wired one. I did this on my main laptop a while back but I can't remember exactly what I did. It may have have something to do with removing the word "auto" in the description. My intention was to be able to connect manually to either one of my two WAP's, without the machine making the choice for me. I know that it was pretty straight-forward to do but again, I can't remember exactly what I did. But it can be done. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Are you using LXDE?
Kevin Kofler wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Two less error-prone ways are to install and use system-config-display or run Xorg with the option to create the file (sorry, don't remember it). -configure thanks. I find little functional difference in the results, so I used Xorg but once to try it out. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: network question - is this unusual?
Anne Wilson wrote: > On Friday 05 June 2009 14:41:31 Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: >> It is very common when you have a modem that does not have a >> firewall/router build in. This is especially true when you only get >> one IP address, and use NAT so you can have more then one computer >> with access to the Internet. Most home users, as well as small >> business users, are using the firewall, dhcp server, and NAT >> features of the firewall/router. >> > I see. So I need to find out whether my daughter's BT router (with a single > connection socket) contains a firewall or not. > > I would have preferred to get rid of it, but it seems to be tied in - they > don't allow you access to any settings whatsoever, as far as I can see, so > you can't just replace it with a standard router. > > Anne > If it does not have some type of interface that lets you configure the firewall, then it probably does not have one. My DSL modem has a web interface that lets you connect/disconnect, and configure a few other features, but it does not have a configurable firewall. It only blocks the ports my ISO does not want me using. Incoming port 80 and port 25 connections for example. It used to block outgoing port 25 connections before I convinced them that I needed it for outgoing connections to my hosted mail server. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: config network-manager
Frank Cox wrote: > On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:22:31 +0200 > François Patte wrote: > >> Thanks. I have seen this. But everytime I reboot the system, wired and >> wireless connection are ticked and everytime nm chooses to connect >> trough wireless >> >> Is there somewhere a config file where I can tell nm that the default >> connection is the wired one. > > I did this on my main laptop a while back but I can't remember exactly what I > did. It may have have something to do with removing the word "auto" in the > description. My intention was to be able to connect manually to either one of > my two WAP's, without the machine making the choice for me. > > I know that it was pretty straight-forward to do but again, I can't remember > exactly what I did. But it can be done. > Things must have changed, or something. I know the default was to use the wired connection, if the link was up, and change to the wireless connection if it was not. It is probably still a configuration option. (I am not on my laptop, so I can not check it.) Mike -- No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
PS Re: Something bollixing packagekit
On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 16:01:32 +, Beartooth wrote: > When I click the launcher for gpk-update-viewer, it gets an error popup > saying "No network connection available," even though one is, and every > other app is using it. The "Details" in the popup say merely "Cannot > refresh cache whilst offline." I happened to think of stopping NetworkManager. Sure enough, now PackageKit works. I hope that tells somebody something. -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: update to F11 with yum
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Alan Evans wrote: > It's broken because a package not being required by anything else doesn't > mean it isn't needed. For example, it could be an application which is > being removed because you just removed a plugin for it or a second > application whcih requires that first application for something. And in > this case, it's either a situation like that (where basesystem isn't > required by anything after removing glibc.i686, but should still not be > removed) or a plain bug in the plugin (where it removes something which is > still required by other packages). I've been using this plugin for a long time and this is the first time it has threatened to remove basesystem. So I'd like to understand what triggered it this time. So much easier to make effective bug reports if one understands the problem. > It shall also be noted that the plugin breaks PackageKit in F11 and > therefore the PackageKit update which is coming to F11 soon (as soon as we > sort out KPackageKit) blacklists it (which means the plugin won't have any > effect in PackageKit). A bug in the remove-with-leaves plugin that erroneously tags packages for removal causes a segmentation fault in PackageKit? Perhaps, but I'm unconvinced. (And I realize that it is not your job to convince me...) Anyway, the "solution" (bug 503989) is, in my opinion, spectacularly backwards. PackageKit is broken when using the remove-with-leaves plugin, so disallow using that plugin with PackageKit. This assures that the bug will never get fixed. If the plugin is buggy and somehow gets fixed then PackageKit still won't use it, so nobody will know. If, on the other hand, PackageKit is buggy then it certainly won't get fixed because the symptom will never be seen now that the trigger is removed. In any case, we might as well just remove the plugin completely from Fedora and call it a day. If another packages has a problem and the plugin is involved then the plugin is blacklisted. If a user has a problem and the plugin is involved then the user is instructed to remove the plugin. At that point, shouldn't we ask why we are shipping the plugin at all? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: nforce 2 nic drivers on a7n8x
Matthew Rockwell wrote: I am a newbie at linux so I am trying to learn. I have used fedora 7,8 and 9 and have been able to connect to the internet no problem but now i have 10 and I cant get it to start up. looking through the drivers I see no driver for my nforce 2 nvidia nic and need some help how to get it and install it so its running. my mobo is a a7n8x asus I have the deluxe version of this board at home. My F10 install worked other than the fact the network starts at login with Network Manager. This is different than the previous versions. I disabled network manager and went back to the default networking. There is a bug in the original config-network app that screws up the network config files. If you are looking for the drivers during boot, you won't see anything. -- Robin Laing -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: update to F11 with yum
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: > > "You're asking to remove X, and I know of Y and Z which are only > required by X - so you should probably remove X,Y, AND Z at the same > time" This is my understanding as well. And since: [a...@agena ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires basesystem no package requires basesystem I'm not disinclined to believe that the plugin is doing the wrong thing. But I don't know that, and I'm not even sure that the plugin itself isn't a red-herring in this case. I'm trying to produce a tighter test case than I currently have. (Removing glibc.i386 also takes more than a dozen legitimate dependencies with it, so I'm trying to narrow it all down to a reproducible minimal case.) Given the choice between solving a problem and avoiding it, I'd rather solve it. In real life, I'm a embedded system engineer. In my world, understanding a problem is a necessary prerequisite to fixing it. I'm not particularly fond of the attitude of, "It doesn't work right so don't use it." And my natural inclination to push back at it has probably earned me an annoyance rank somewhere just below Karl Larsen. I'm sorry about that, I guess. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Display issue in Fedora 10
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 05:22:47PM +0500, Adeel Akbar wrote: > Hi > > I have Dell PIV machine and I installed Fedora 10. I Enabled "Desktop > Effects" and now my screen is blank. How I restore my setting or disable > desktop effects. what is your graphics card - intel,nvidia,ati ? have you installed the appropiate drivers ? without any info about your hardware we won't have much to advice. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: PS Re: Something bollixing packagekit
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 04:33:25PM +, Beartooth wrote: > On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 16:01:32 +, Beartooth wrote: > > > When I click the launcher for gpk-update-viewer, it gets an error popup > > saying "No network connection available," even though one is, and every > > other app is using it. The "Details" in the popup say merely "Cannot > > refresh cache whilst offline." > > I happened to think of stopping NetworkManager. Sure enough, now > PackageKit works. I hope that tells somebody something. Is it possible your messagebus (D-Bus) had a problem? Do you have any other D-Bus listeners that are having problems? The easiest way to test is to reboot and see if the problem persists. (Yes, this is not the only way, but it's easiest if you don't want to get into start/stopping services, and so forth.) If it *does* persist, check your PK configuration perhaps? [p...@salma ~]$ grep UseNetworkManager /etc/PackageKit/PackageKit.conf UseNetworkManager=true (The default configuration is "true," by the way.) If PK is supposed to be using NetworkManager for managing your network connection and you disable a network connection in NM without telling it that you're managing it elsewhere, it may tell other apps that no network exists. You can set manual configurations in NetworkManager, or if you set them with system-config-network, you can mark them as not to be managed by NetworkManager, and PK's heuristics should just do the right thing. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
graphical interface to ppp
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bonjour, Is there an interface to dialup ppp in fedora 10? I am looking for something simple to use from any user account and which could be configured by each user of a laptop. Thank you. - -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél. +33 (0)1 4286 2145 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkopWi0ACgkQdE6C2dhV2JXLvwCgzlwYZFRwLtYjhCpxm64UBHRK o78AniaCJvkhs6qX4RM+itV6xY6Rkb+7 =ehzP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
OT: Vote for your favorite Linux Distro for the Desktop if you can!
Dear kind Fedora folks, A question was asked at Distrowatch about your favorite linux distribution for the desktop, if you have a chance and you can do it, vote for your favorite distribution. As many of may know, Ubuntu is leading the pack, I believe that Fedora has a very large user base too and the numbers are lying. Please vote if you have a chance and prove the saying wrong `` There are lies, damn lies, and there are statistics'' http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/what-your-favorite-linux-distribution-desktop Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: graphical interface to ppp
On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 19:47:25 +0200 François Patte wrote: > Is there an interface to dialup ppp in fedora 10? I am looking for > something simple to use from any user account and which could be > configured by each user of a laptop. NetworkManager -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Will F11 save sessions?
I have power failures often enough, and long enough ones, to be able to ride them out with UPSs I can afford. So I have to shutdown all machines from time to time, and then reboot them when the power comes back. This gets tedious, a lot more tedious than it used to be, because gnome-session-properties has failed to save my sessions for the last couple of Fedora releases. Iirc, there was some discussion here the first time this app began failing. Has it been fixed yet?? Any idea when it will be? -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: Vote for your favorite Linux Distro for the Desktop if you can!
On 6/5/2009 2:12 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote: > Dear kind Fedora folks, > > A question was asked at Distrowatch about your favorite linux distribution > for the desktop, if you have a chance and you can do it, vote for your > favorite distribution. As many of may know, Ubuntu is leading the pack, I > believe that Fedora has a very large user base too and the numbers are lying. > Please vote if you have a chance and prove the saying wrong > `` There are lies, damn lies, and there are statistics'' > > > http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/what-your-favorite-linux-distribution-desktop > > Regards, > > Antonio The results of this faux poll would be just that. Fake. No thanks. -- David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: graphical interface to ppp
--- On Fri, 6/5/09, Frank Cox wrote: > From: Frank Cox > Subject: Re: graphical interface to ppp > To: " Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. " > > Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 11:35 AM > On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 19:47:25 +0200 > François Patte wrote: > > > Is there an interface to dialup ppp in fedora 10? I am > looking for > > something simple to use from any user account and > which could be > > configured by each user of a laptop. > > NetworkManager > > -- There is also KPPP, and Gnome-PPP which is a frontend for wvdial. Use one that works for you. NetworkManager might also do the trick, however you need to carefully fix the settings to match what you are trying to do. I use wvdial and it works for me. Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
local issues
A few days ago I got F11 up with preupgrade, and now almost everything is working like a charme. The only thing I'm not how to fix is that I get these messages at boot time: /etc/profile.d/lang.sh: line 19: warning: setlocale: LC_CTYPE: cannot change locale (es_ES.UTF-8): No such file or directory /etc/profile.d/lang.sh: line 20: warning: setlocale: LC_COLLATE: cannot change locale (es_ES.UTF-8): No such file or directory /etc/profile.d/lang.sh: line 23: warning: setlocale: LC_MESSAGES: cannot change locale (es_ES.UTF-8): No such file or directory /etc/profile.d/lang.sh: line 26: warning: setlocale: LC_NUMERIC: cannot change locale (es_ES.UTF-8): No such file or directory /etc/profile.d/lang.sh: line 29: warning: setlocale: LC_TIME: cannot change locale (es_ES.UTF-8): No such file or directory Do I have to from the UTF-8? -- Martín Marqués select 'martin.marques' || '@' || 'gmail.com' DBA, Programador, Administrador -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WUSB54G firmware
On 06/04/2009 07:12 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: Jim wrote: On 06/04/2009 10:57 AM, suvayu ali wrote: 2009/6/2 Jim: FC10/Kde I'm trying to setup a Linksys WUSB54G and I get this error message from DMESG. usb 2-2: firmware: requesting l3886usb usb 2-2: (p54usb) cannot find firmware (isl3886usb) usb 2-2: firmware: requesting isl3890usb p54usb: probe of 2-2:1.0 failed with error -2 usbcore: registered new interface driver p54usb Jim, I 'm just shooting in the dark here, but something worth a try would be to put both 'isl3886usb' and 'isl3890usb' in /lib/firmware. After all in the messages it says the kernel is asking for both the firmwares. Just a thought. I did give both firmware names as 'isl3886usb' and 'isl3890usb' as you suggested and I'm kind of convinced that the firmware is not right for this adapter. The firmware I downloaded was for the 2.6.29 kernel, which is what I.m using. The output of Dmesg is attached. Looks like that is the case. In that case you can try one of the alternate options to get the firmware. Were you able to find out which chip your adapter uses as I had suggested earlier? If you have that info, you can try looking for it in here http://daemonizer.de/prism54/prism54-fw/ The other option left for you would be to extract the firmware from the windows binary that came with the product. This page from the Prism54 Project page might be of help. http://lekernel.net/prism54/misc.html good luck Well I finally got inside this usb device it has a ; 19152234Linksys WUSB54G OEM NET2280, ISL3880/ISL3886? http://lekernel.net/prism54/newdrivers.html, I will try to figure what driver it needs. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: update to F11 with yum
Alan Evans wrote: > A bug in the remove-with-leaves plugin that erroneously tags packages > for removal causes a segmentation fault in PackageKit? It's not the same bug. You're mixing up at least 3 separate bugs: * the bug you're seeing, where basesystem gets removed by remove-with-leaves * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502399 - remove-with-leaves confuses PackageKit, causing a Python backtrace - fixed in PackageKit 0.4.8 by blacklisting the plugin * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=503989 - Kpackagekit crashes after packagekit update - we simply need a new kpackagekit (0.4.1) to go together with the PackageKit 0.4.8 update, we're working on this right now > In any case, we might as well just remove the plugin completely from > Fedora and call it a day. In this particular case, I wouldn't be opposed to that, the plugin is just broken by design. > If another packages has a problem and the plugin is involved then the > plugin is blacklisted. Only within that package. I think PackageKit is simply not designed to allow yum plugins to add additional packages to remove. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: PS Re: Something bollixing packagekit
On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 13:30:03 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 04:33:25PM +, Beartooth wrote: >> On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 16:01:32 +, Beartooth wrote: >> >> > When I click the launcher for gpk-update-viewer, it gets an error >> > popup saying "No network connection available," even though one is, >> > and every other app is using it. The "Details" in the popup say >> > merely "Cannot refresh cache whilst offline." >> >> I happened to think of stopping NetworkManager. Sure enough, now >> PackageKit works. I hope that tells somebody something. > > Is it possible your messagebus (D-Bus) had a problem? Do you have any > other D-Bus listeners that are having problems? I have no faintest inkling; how do I check? Searching messagebus got me a file called /etc/rc.d/init.d, which Fedora opened with GVIM. What I know of any form of vi is how to spell it; but I looked. It's all in code, of course, and Greek to me; I don't see a mention of NM there. > The easiest way to test is to reboot and see if the problem persists. > (Yes, this is not the only way, but it's easiest if you don't want to > get into start/stopping services, and so forth.) We've had several power failures lately; there's crew moving the power lines from poles to underground. So I've rebooted three or four times, if not more, just in the last week. The problem has survived that. > If it *does* persist, check your PK configuration perhaps? > > [p...@salma ~]$ grep UseNetworkManager /etc/PackageKit/PackageKit.conf > UseNetworkManager=true I get the same, after I c&p the grep command to a prompt. > (The default configuration is "true," by the way.) If PK is supposed to > be using NetworkManager for managing your network connection and you > disable a network connection in NM without telling it that you're > managing it elsewhere, it may tell other apps that no network exists. The problem exists only on this one machine. I thought I had disabled NM some time ago in system-config-services; maybe some reboot restarted it?? > You can set manual configurations in NetworkManager, or if you set them > with system-config-network, you can mark them as not to be managed by > NetworkManager, and PK's heuristics should just do the right thing. I have seen those markings somewhere, but don't find them now. According to gedit, nm-system-settings.conf contains only [main] plugins=ifcfg-rh I don't find anything jumping out at me in /etc/PackageKit/ PackageKit.conf -- but maybe I wouldn't ... -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Common F11 Bugs
Hello list, All software has bugs. Some are known, and some are unknown. Fortunately with free/libre and open source software, we have the ability to diagnose and understand bugs. In advance of Fedora 11 release, of course everyone has been hard at work stomping out bugs, but there are still issues we know are not fixed in the release. For many of these we have workarounds. We've made a wiki page that records these bugs: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs Please make use of this page for your benefit and others on the list. If you find what you believe to be a bug that is *not* on that list, please refer to the section on that page, near the top, for instructions on how to file it: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs#My_bug_is_not_listed Thank you and we hope you will enjoy Fedora 11! -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: Vote for your favorite Linux Distro for the Desktop if you can!
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 4:43 PM, David wrote: > On 6/5/2009 2:12 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote: > > Dear kind Fedora folks, > > > > A question was asked at Distrowatch about your favorite linux > distribution for the desktop, if you have a chance and you can do it, vote > for your favorite distribution. As many of may know, Ubuntu is leading the > pack, I believe that Fedora has a very large user base too and the numbers > are lying. Please vote if you have a chance and prove the saying wrong > > `` There are lies, damn lies, and there are statistics'' > > > > > > > http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/what-your-favorite-linux-distribution-desktop > > > > Regards, > > > > Antonio > > > The results of this faux poll would be just that. Fake. > > No thanks. > > > -- > > > David > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > Nothing to count upon, but since it's fun to vote, I voted! -- Armin Moradi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: PS Re: Something bollixing packagekit
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 07:16:23PM +, Beartooth wrote: > On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 13:30:03 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > If it *does* persist, check your PK configuration perhaps? > > > > [p...@salma ~]$ grep UseNetworkManager /etc/PackageKit/PackageKit.conf > > UseNetworkManager=true > > I get the same, after I c&p the grep command to a prompt. > > > (The default configuration is "true," by the way.) If PK is supposed to > > be using NetworkManager for managing your network connection and you > > disable a network connection in NM without telling it that you're > > managing it elsewhere, it may tell other apps that no network exists. > > The problem exists only on this one machine. I thought I had > disabled NM some time ago in system-config-services; maybe some reboot > restarted it?? You can check that: $ su -c '/sbin/chkconfig --list NetworkManager' If you did, you probably want to change that PK configuration option above to "false." > > You can set manual configurations in NetworkManager, or if you set them > > with system-config-network, you can mark them as not to be managed by > > NetworkManager, and PK's heuristics should just do the right thing. > > I have seen those markings somewhere, but don't find them now. > According to gedit, nm-system-settings.conf contains only No need to dig in text files, you can just use the System > Administration > Network tool and turn off the "Managed by NetworkManager" option for the interface, and mark it to start by default at boot time. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
AVC Denial icon
Hi all, I've always avoided SELinux, but with the advent of f10 I've decided to drink the kool-aid; however, it hasn't always been sweetened. I've been getting these popups: - Selinux AVC Denial Click on icon to view - Where is this icon supposed to appear? If it is on one of the standard taskbars I must have deleted it before I realized it might be useful :( I tried to re-add it but it doesn't appear to be one of the available launchers. Anybody know how to restore it? TIA, Mike Wright -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Common F11 Bugs
On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 15:17:53 -0400 Paul W. Frields wrote: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs Summary of bugs listed: Intel graphics don't work! ATI graphics don't work! Nvidia graphics don't work! :-). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Common F11 Bugs
On Fri, 5 Jun 2009, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 15:17:53 -0400 > Paul W. Frields wrote: > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs > > Summary of bugs listed: > > Intel graphics don't work! > ATI graphics don't work! > Nvidia graphics don't work! > > :-). yeah, that whole ATI thing is starting to wear a bit thin. :-P rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Linked In: http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Common F11 Bugs
On Fri, 5 Jun 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote: > Hello list, > > All software has bugs. Some are known, and some are unknown. > Fortunately with free/libre and open source software, we have the > ability to diagnose and understand bugs. > > In advance of Fedora 11 release, of course everyone has been hard at > work stomping out bugs, but there are still issues we know are not > fixed in the release. For many of these we have workarounds. > We've made a wiki page that records these bugs: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs do any of those bugs refer to the fact that (at least for me) firefox is still teeth-grindingly slow? i've mentioned this before and i've tried everything i can think of to speed it up but, at this point, it's utterly unusable. even sitting there, it perpetually sucks up 100% of the CPU on a dual core system, while seamonkey will happily sit there, idling along at about 0.8%. i'll give it another shot with F11 but, really, i can't believe how utterly useless firefox is. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Linked In: http://www.linkedin.com/in/rpjday Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Common F11 Bugs
On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 16:25:55 -0400 (EDT) Robert P. J. Day wrote: > do any of those bugs refer to the fact that (at least for me) > firefox is still teeth-grindingly slow? i've mentioned this before > and i've tried everything i can think of to speed it up but, at this > point, it's utterly unusable. even sitting there, it perpetually > sucks up 100% of the CPU on a dual core system, while seamonkey will > happily sit there, idling along at about 0.8%. There must be something really wrong with your system. I have never seen that on any of numerous Fedora machines, unless you're at a web page that's using a lot of CPU to show you something or if something has got Firefox stuck in a tight loop of some kind. In either case, simply closing and re-opening Firefox solves the problem. Doing "nothing", Firefox uses an insignificant amount of CPU. Do you have some Firefox extension that's causing problems? What happens if you remove all Firefox extensions? -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Common F11 Bugs
On 6/5/2009 4:25 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Fri, 5 Jun 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote: > >> Hello list, >> >> All software has bugs. Some are known, and some are unknown. >> Fortunately with free/libre and open source software, we have the >> ability to diagnose and understand bugs. >> >> In advance of Fedora 11 release, of course everyone has been hard at >> work stomping out bugs, but there are still issues we know are not >> fixed in the release. For many of these we have workarounds. >> We've made a wiki page that records these bugs: >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs > > do any of those bugs refer to the fact that (at least for me) > firefox is still teeth-grindingly slow? i've mentioned this before > and i've tried everything i can think of to speed it up but, at this > point, it's utterly unusable. even sitting there, it perpetually > sucks up 100% of the CPU on a dual core system, while seamonkey will > happily sit there, idling along at about 0.8%. > > i'll give it another shot with F11 but, really, i can't believe how > utterly useless firefox is. First off Firefox in F11 is FF 3.5 beta 4. I have seen you mention this problem before today. And I have not seen any 'me too' replies. This must be a problem with your setup or system. Is this with *all* sites? Or just some? Surely not just one site? Give an example URL please. Do you have the same extensions installed in both Firefox and Seamonkey? Do you use Flash Block? If a site is blocked, the default, it can slow the site down as it fights to display. Another thing to look at is the 'languages' installed in Firefox by Fedora. You, I figure, speak English which is built in. Disable the many other languages. I have a couple of other ideas but start here. -- David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Graphics card recommendation?
A quick Google indicates that your motherboard has 3 PCI slots and 1 AGP 8x slot. You will have an 'easier' time finding AGP cards. I have leaned towards ATI cards in the past, but recent experiences have changed my mind. I'd suggest searching eBay for nVidia AGP cards ... base your decision on how much you want to pay. If you can part with around $40 US, you can find nVidia Quadro FX 2000 cards that will knock your socks off (yes, OVERKILL). It's a serious workstation class card that will easily handle ANY game your Grand Daughter can throw at it! Other options would be an nVidia 'consumer' class card - GeForce FX 5200 (or higher, like 6200, etc.) w/128MB or more RAM. Example: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220410781626 Would do nicely. (no relationship with seller, just a random search) Cheers, -- +[ joe.kaz...@unh.edu ]---+ | Joe Kazura | | CIS/TCS -- 1 Leavitt LanePHONE: +1-603-862-2012 | | University of New Hampshire | | Durham, NH 03824-3512 USA"docendo discimus" | | | +-[ http://www.unh.edu/tcs/ ]-+ On Jun 1, 2009, at 5:25 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:19 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/6/1 Patrick O'Callaghan : T&L capability Texture and Lighting capability. While I agree that it's a stupid acronym, it's part of a fairly generic "you can't run this game because..." error which has been pasted verbatim. http://www.google.com/search?q=%22T%26L+capability%22 Fair enough, though I wonder how many non-gamers would recognize it. As the OP, I had never heard of T&L and am certainly no gamer, but that is what the error log complains of. As far as I can see, it is a standard acronym, and it would be as odd to call it Texture and Lighting as it would be to call PCI . Which reminds me - apparently there is a second hurdle I have to get over, which is to distinguish between PCI and PCI-E. I think the Asus K8V-MX motherboard I am concerned with provides PCI slots, not PCI-E. Also there is something about AGP, but I'm not sure how significant that is, or if it is universal nowadays. Graphics cards are much more complicated than I thought. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: AVC Denial icon
Mike Wright wrote: Hi all, I've always avoided SELinux, but with the advent of f10 I've decided to drink the kool-aid; however, it hasn't always been sweetened. I've been getting these popups: - Selinux AVC Denial Click on icon to view - Where is this icon supposed to appear? If it is on one of the standard taskbars I must have deleted it before I realized it might be useful :( I tried to re-add it but it doesn't appear to be one of the available launchers. Anybody know how to restore it? It only pops up on the toolbar when an avc denial occurs. It's the big gold star on the toolbar. Click on it. If you want to bring it up anytime under Gnome: Applications->System Tools->SELinux Troubleshooter -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ri...@nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - A friend said he climbed to the top of Mount Rainier. My view is - -that if there's no elevator, it must not be that interesting. - -- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Common F11 Bugs
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 03:53:18PM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 15:17:53 -0400 > Paul W. Frields wrote: > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs > > Summary of bugs listed: > > Intel graphics don't work! > ATI graphics don't work! > Nvidia graphics don't work! > > :-). Heh. Certainly there are still some bugs to work out of the modesetting feature for some cards, although the ATI, Intel and NVidia cards I have here seem to work. Often, issues are resolved by booting with the "nomodeset" option, so maybe "don't work to the extent we'd like" is more applicable. :-) Thankfully it's open source and we will keep rolling along, improving this situation as quickly as possible. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Common F11 Bugs
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 05:06:36PM -0400, David wrote: > On 6/5/2009 4:25 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > On Fri, 5 Jun 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > > >> Hello list, > >> > >> All software has bugs. Some are known, and some are unknown. > >> Fortunately with free/libre and open source software, we have the > >> ability to diagnose and understand bugs. > >> > >> In advance of Fedora 11 release, of course everyone has been hard at > >> work stomping out bugs, but there are still issues we know are not > >> fixed in the release. For many of these we have workarounds. > >> We've made a wiki page that records these bugs: > >> > >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs > > > > do any of those bugs refer to the fact that (at least for me) > > firefox is still teeth-grindingly slow? i've mentioned this before > > and i've tried everything i can think of to speed it up but, at this > > point, it's utterly unusable. even sitting there, it perpetually > > sucks up 100% of the CPU on a dual core system, while seamonkey will > > happily sit there, idling along at about 0.8%. > > > > i'll give it another shot with F11 but, really, i can't believe how > > utterly useless firefox is. > > > First off Firefox in F11 is FF 3.5 beta 4. > > I have seen you mention this problem before today. And I have not seen > any 'me too' replies. This must be a problem with your setup or system. > > Is this with *all* sites? Or just some? Surely not just one site? Give > an example URL please. > > Do you have the same extensions installed in both Firefox and Seamonkey? > > Do you use Flash Block? If a site is blocked, the default, it can slow > the site down as it fights to display. > > Another thing to look at is the 'languages' installed in Firefox by > Fedora. You, I figure, speak English which is built in. Disable the many > other languages. > > I have a couple of other ideas but start here. I tend to start by creating a new user account to see if the problem persists there. If not, it's related to my account, which is somewhat of a different situation than having a useless app. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: AVC Denial icon
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 12:43:19PM -0700, Mike Wright wrote: > Hi all, > > I've always avoided SELinux, but with the advent of f10 I've decided to > drink the kool-aid; however, it hasn't always been sweetened. > > I've been getting these popups: > > - > Selinux > > AVC Denial > > Click on icon to view > - > > Where is this icon supposed to appear? If it is on one of the standard > taskbars I must have deleted it before I realized it might be useful :( > > I tried to re-add it but it doesn't appear to be one of the available > launchers. > > Anybody know how to restore it? Interesting, that app should be appearing by default. It looks like a 5-pointed yellow star (like a sheriff's badge). You can check your System > Preferences > Sessions and look at the startup programs, making sure the sealert (or setroubleshoot) app is started. I'm sorry I don't remember the name off the top of my head -- I've been on pre-F11 Rawhide for a month or two now. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Common F11 Bugs
On 6/5/2009 5:22 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 05:06:36PM -0400, David wrote: >> On 6/5/2009 4:25 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: >>> On Fri, 5 Jun 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote: >>> Hello list, All software has bugs. Some are known, and some are unknown. Fortunately with free/libre and open source software, we have the ability to diagnose and understand bugs. In advance of Fedora 11 release, of course everyone has been hard at work stomping out bugs, but there are still issues we know are not fixed in the release. For many of these we have workarounds. We've made a wiki page that records these bugs: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs >>> do any of those bugs refer to the fact that (at least for me) >>> firefox is still teeth-grindingly slow? i've mentioned this before >>> and i've tried everything i can think of to speed it up but, at this >>> point, it's utterly unusable. even sitting there, it perpetually >>> sucks up 100% of the CPU on a dual core system, while seamonkey will >>> happily sit there, idling along at about 0.8%. >>> >>> i'll give it another shot with F11 but, really, i can't believe how >>> utterly useless firefox is. >> >> First off Firefox in F11 is FF 3.5 beta 4. >> >> I have seen you mention this problem before today. And I have not seen >> any 'me too' replies. This must be a problem with your setup or system. >> >> Is this with *all* sites? Or just some? Surely not just one site? Give >> an example URL please. >> >> Do you have the same extensions installed in both Firefox and Seamonkey? >> >> Do you use Flash Block? If a site is blocked, the default, it can slow >> the site down as it fights to display. >> >> Another thing to look at is the 'languages' installed in Firefox by >> Fedora. You, I figure, speak English which is built in. Disable the many >> other languages. >> >> I have a couple of other ideas but start here. > > I tend to start by creating a new user account to see if the problem > persists there. If not, it's related to my account, which is somewhat > of a different situation than having a useless app. Another good suggestion. I agree. -- David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Common F11 Bugs
On 06/05/2009 04:43 PM, Frank Cox wrote: On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 16:25:55 -0400 (EDT) Robert P. J. Day wrote: do any of those bugs refer to the fact that (at least for me) firefox is still teeth-grindingly slow? i've mentioned this before and i've tried everything i can think of to speed it up but, at this point, it's utterly unusable. even sitting there, it perpetually sucks up 100% of the CPU on a dual core system, while seamonkey will happily sit there, idling along at about 0.8%. There must be something really wrong with your system. I have never seen that on any of numerous Fedora machines, unless you're at a web page that's using a lot of CPU to show you something or if something has got Firefox stuck in a tight loop of some kind. In either case, simply closing and re-opening Firefox solves the problem. Doing "nothing", Firefox uses an insignificant amount of CPU. Do you have some Firefox extension that's causing problems? What happens if you remove all Firefox extensions? My Firefox was really dragging it's feet, I noticed the Language Packs were all enabled, I disabled them all except for English (Great Britain) I did not see any English (USA) so I accepted (Great Britain) When I speak with a Englishman I generally can understand what their saying. And it made my Firefox a lot faster. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: AVC Denial icon
Paul W. Frields wrote: On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 12:43:19PM -0700, Mike Wright wrote: Hi all, I've always avoided SELinux, but with the advent of f10 I've decided to drink the kool-aid; however, it hasn't always been sweetened. I've been getting these popups: - Selinux AVC Denial Click on icon to view - Where is this icon supposed to appear? If it is on one of the standard taskbars I must have deleted it before I realized it might be useful :( I tried to re-add it but it doesn't appear to be one of the available launchers. Anybody know how to restore it? Interesting, that app should be appearing by default. It looks like a 5-pointed yellow star (like a sheriff's badge). You can check your System > Preferences > Sessions and look at the startup programs, making sure the sealert (or setroubleshoot) app is started. Thanks for the tip. That shows that it does launch on startup. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Graphics card recommendation?
Joe Kazura wrote: > I'd suggest searching eBay for nVidia AGP cards ... base your decision > on how much you want to pay. > > If you can part with around $40 US, you can find nVidia Quadro FX 2000 > cards that will knock your socks off (yes, OVERKILL). Bad recommendation. The OP wants cards which just work in Fedora. NVidia is the exact opposite. Don't buy NVidia! Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Common F11 Bugs
Jim wrote: > My Firefox was really dragging it's feet, I noticed the Language Packs > were all enabled, I disabled them all except for English (Great Britain) > I did not see any English (USA) so I accepted (Great Britain) When I > speak with a Englishman I generally can understand what their saying. > And it made my Firefox a lot faster. You can disable "English (Great Britain)" too. There's no language pack for "English (USA)" because it's the default language. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Graphics card recommendation?
Kevin Kofler wrote: >> If you can part with around $40 US, you can find nVidia Quadro FX 2000 >> cards that will knock your socks off (yes, OVERKILL). > > Bad recommendation. The OP wants cards which just work in Fedora. NVidia > is the exact opposite. Don't buy NVidia! Actually, some kind soul (in Dublin) gave me an old AGP card gratis, but when I looked in the machine I saw that though it has an AGP slot, it also has a built-in video card, attached directly to the motherboard. I'm wondering if I install the card I've been given in the AGP slot, can I disable the built-in card, (a) in Linux, and (b) in Windows? I guess I'd better ask about (b) elsewhere! -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Graphics card recommendation?
> I'm wondering if I install the card I've been given in the AGP slot, > can I disable the built-in card, (a) in Linux, and (b) in Windows? > > I guess I'd better ask about (b) elsewhere! The priority is usually set in the BIOS, although some boxes simply disable onboard video if an AGP card is present. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Graphics card recommendation?
Timothy Murphy wrote: Kevin Kofler wrote: If you can part with around $40 US, you can find nVidia Quadro FX 2000 cards that will knock your socks off (yes, OVERKILL). Bad recommendation. The OP wants cards which just work in Fedora. NVidia is the exact opposite. Don't buy NVidia! Actually, some kind soul (in Dublin) gave me an old AGP card gratis, but when I looked in the machine I saw that though it has an AGP slot, it also has a built-in video card, attached directly to the motherboard. I'm wondering if I install the card I've been given in the AGP slot, can I disable the built-in card, (a) in Linux, and (b) in Windows? I guess I'd better ask about (b) elsewhere! The answer is usually: (c) in the CMOS setup -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
firefox and flash plugin
The latest flash plugin rpm does not work in youtube or other flash sites. I get the "you need the latest flash plugin to view this site" [r...@localhost Download]# rpm -qa flash-plugin flash-plugin-10.0.22.87-release.i386 [r...@localhost Download]# rpm -qa firefox firefox-3.0.10-1.fc10.x86_64 This works again: [r...@localhost Download]# rpm -qa flash-plugin flash-plugin-10.0.15.3-release.i386 Mick M -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: AVC Denial icon
Mike Wright wrote: I've been getting these popups: - Selinux AVC Denial Click on icon to view - Where is this icon supposed to appear? If it is on one of the standard taskbars I must have deleted it before I realized it might be useful :( It appears in the Notification Area. If you've deleted that from your panel, you won't see the icon. -- Bob Nichols "NOSPAM" is really part of my email address. Do NOT delete it. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Common F11 Bugs
David wrote: On 6/5/2009 5:22 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 05:06:36PM -0400, David wrote: On 6/5/2009 4:25 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Fri, 5 Jun 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote: Hello list, All software has bugs. Some are known, and some are unknown. Fortunately with free/libre and open source software, we have the ability to diagnose and understand bugs. In advance of Fedora 11 release, of course everyone has been hard at work stomping out bugs, but there are still issues we know are not fixed in the release. For many of these we have workarounds. We've made a wiki page that records these bugs: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs do any of those bugs refer to the fact that (at least for me) firefox is still teeth-grindingly slow? i've mentioned this before and i've tried everything i can think of to speed it up but, at this point, it's utterly unusable. even sitting there, it perpetually sucks up 100% of the CPU on a dual core system, while seamonkey will happily sit there, idling along at about 0.8%. i'll give it another shot with F11 but, really, i can't believe how utterly useless firefox is. First off Firefox in F11 is FF 3.5 beta 4. I have seen you mention this problem before today. And I have not seen any 'me too' replies. This must be a problem with your setup or system. Is this with *all* sites? Or just some? Surely not just one site? Give an example URL please. Do you have the same extensions installed in both Firefox and Seamonkey? Do you use Flash Block? If a site is blocked, the default, it can slow the site down as it fights to display. Another thing to look at is the 'languages' installed in Firefox by Fedora. You, I figure, speak English which is built in. Disable the many other languages. I have a couple of other ideas but start here. I tend to start by creating a new user account to see if the problem persists there. If not, it's related to my account, which is somewhat of a different situation than having a useless app. Another good suggestion. I agree. And something else I have seen impact Firefox performance more obviously than other kinds of applications is whether IPV6 is enabled or not. Apparently it has to do with how name resolution is attempted, and the kinds of responses or timeouts that occur in your environment. It is an easy thing to test by blocking the ipv6 module from loading and rebooting. On F10 I add a line to /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf.dist: # Prevent ipv6 being loaded install net-pf-10 /bin/true -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: AVC Denial icon
Robert Nichols wrote: >> Where is this icon supposed to appear? If it is on one of the standard >> taskbars I must have deleted it before I realized it might be useful :( > > It appears in the Notification Area. If you've deleted that from your > panel, you won't see the icon. As a matter of interest, if you have deleted it (I haven't) how would you undelete it? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Questions with rsync
On 06/04/2009 06:28 AM, Steven Stern wrote: > On 06/04/2009 12:53 AM, GMS S wrote: >> mv backup.8 backup.9 >> mv backup.7 backup.8 >> mv backup.6 backup.7 Have you tried rdiff-backup ? It will do all this for you ... and its as easy to use as rsync alone. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Will F11 save sessions?
On 6/5/2009 2:40 PM, Beartooth wrote: > I have power failures often enough, and long enough ones, to be > able to ride them out with UPSs I can afford. So I have to shutdown all > machines from time to time, and then reboot them when the power comes > back. This gets tedious, a lot more tedious than it used to be, because > gnome-session-properties has failed to save my sessions for the last > couple of Fedora releases. > > Iirc, there was some discussion here the first time this app > began failing. Has it been fixed yet?? Any idea when it will be? > It looks as though no one is going to answer this for you. As of today...Gnome save session still does not 'work'. As of today, as far as I know, there is no 'time' when it will. -- David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Will F11 save sessions?
Once upon a time, David said: > As of today...Gnome save session still does not 'work'. As of today, as > far as I know, there is no 'time' when it will. Why can this change not be reverted, at least in Fedora? -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Will F11 save sessions?
On 6/5/2009 9:16 PM, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, David said: >> As of today...Gnome save session still does not 'work'. As of today, as >> far as I know, there is no 'time' when it will. > > Why can this change not be reverted, at least in Fedora? "this change"? As I understand it this change has nothing to do with Fedora at all. It is/was the result of a complete rewrite of GNOME. I might might be wrong. Someone correct if I am. Or confirm me if I am correct. Patience grasshopper. All things will come to pass in due time. :-) -- David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
how to install windows after fedora
Hi guys I want to install window server after I installed fedora. Who can tell me how to? And if I reinstall windows after severial days and how to still make fedora work as normal? thanks in advance nathan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: how to install windows after fedora
use kvm and install windows inside fedora. On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 12:38 AM, Nathan Huang wrote: > Hi guys > I want to install window server after I installed fedora. Who can tell me > how to? > And if I reinstall windows after severial days and how to still make fedora > work as normal? > thanks in advance > nathan > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > -- Itamar Reis Peixoto e-mail/msn: ita...@ispbrasil.com.br sip: ita...@ispbrasil.com.br skype: itamarjp icq: 81053601 +55 11 4063 5033 +55 34 3221 8599 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
how to install wmware in foedora 64
Hi guys I wish to install windows inside fedora, I heard that wmware is best tool I can use, but it's too complicated to install vmware in fedora 64. who guys can provide detailed step of installing vmware in fedora? thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: how to install windows after fedora
Nathan Huang writes: Hi guys I want to install window server after I installed fedora. Who can tell me how to? And if I reinstall windows after severial days and how to still make fedora work as normal? It's easier to install Windows first, then Fedora. Make sure to have a separate partition created for Windows and another one (or several) for Fedora. Fedora's installer will step you through the procedure for setting up Grub to select Windows or Fedora at boot. Although you can install Fedora first, then Windows, doing so is much more complicated. When you have more experience you can try doing that, but for now just stick with the easier option. pgpS86y5Fe3CG.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Skype under Fedora-10
Kevin Kofler wrote: Gabriel Ramirez wrote: the only one alternative in opensource was jabber No, there's SIP too. At least Ekiga supports video in addition to audio. I discarded SIP because is create another account So why do you say earlier that there's only Jabber? Well I knew about SIP, but I'm/was searching a replacement to Instant messaging with Voice/Video included, SIP don't cover IM, so in my user scenario (different from the OP) I discarded SIP. That said, at least the M$N protocol is supported by Free Software, unlike the Skype one. So it's not that big a problem. Kevin Kofler yeah but still it's a workeable/liveable problem because when Microsoft change the protocol, ( by itself isn't a problem the protocol is property of Microsoft ) and the open source clients need be updated, so not a "perfect" solution exists today for me. Gabriel -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: AVC Denial icon
Timothy Murphy wrote: Robert Nichols wrote: Where is this icon supposed to appear? If it is on one of the standard taskbars I must have deleted it before I realized it might be useful :( It appears in the Notification Area. If you've deleted that from your panel, you won't see the icon. As a matter of interest, if you have deleted it (I haven't) how would you undelete it? The same way you add other applets to the panel: Right click on the panel background, select "Add to Panel" from the menu, in the dialog box scroll down and select "Notification Area," then click on the "Add" button. -- Bob Nichols "NOSPAM" is really part of my email address. Do NOT delete it. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Flood blocking
I currently have one system I'm testing the following rules on: iptables -N SSHSCAN iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -m state --state NEW -j SSHSCAN iptables -A SSHSCAN -m recent --set --name SSH iptables -A SSHSCAN -m recent --update --seconds 300 --hitcount 2 --name SSH -j DROP And just by watching it for the past few days, those rules seem to work pretty well. So, it made me wonder, can I apply the same rules for FTP and e-mail (with the correct port information of course.) I get *a lot* of failed FTP attempts. Especially when the sun comes up in Asia. And then there's the e-mail spam that also doesn't stop. So, can I take those same set of rules above, replace the port number and name, and have them work for FTP and e-mail as well? Am I overlooking something really obvious? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Will F11 save sessions?
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 18:40:59 +, Beartooth wrote: > > I have power failures often enough, and long enough ones, to be > able to ride them out with UPSs I can afford. So I have to shutdown all > machines from time to time, and then reboot them when the power comes > back. This gets tedious, a lot more tedious than it used to be, because > gnome-session-properties has failed to save my sessions for the last > couple of Fedora releases. If you use nut the shutdowns and reboots can be made automatic. One machine directly monitors the ups and the other machines talk to it. When the charge in the ups drops low enough the machine in contact with the ups tells the other machines to shutdown. Then it shuts down and then the ups cuts power. If the bios settings are correctly set, when power is restored the machines will all start back up. The ups may or may not have a way to delay restoring power until it has a minimum charge (to allow another clean shutdown if the power fails again immediately). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RPM noob (query, log, build)
So, I went and built my first RPM recently. I had to go back and forth a bit with the developers, but it's built from the most recent svn update of curl-java, and, from what I see, is exactly what I wanted to install is installed the way I want it installed. However, I don't understand why the rpm query isn't returning the expected result. Oddly, I recall running the query option to figure out where the JAR was installed to. Also, there's more than a JAR involved, there are some .so files. Is there a different query to run? Did I make the RPM incorrectly? Here I am going around in circles a bit (after doing the hard part, building the RPM): [r...@arrakis i386]# [r...@arrakis i386]# [r...@arrakis i386]# yum -y remove curl-java-0.2.3.SVN-2.i386 Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit Setting up Remove Process Resolving Dependencies --> Running transaction check ---> Package curl-java.i386 0:0.2.3.SVN-2 set to be erased --> Finished Dependency Resolution Dependencies Resolved === Package Arch Version Repository Size === Removing: curl-java i386 0.2.3.SVN-2 installed15 k Transaction Summary === Install 0 Package(s) Update 0 Package(s) Remove 1 Package(s) Downloading Packages: Running rpm_check_debug Running Transaction Test Finished Transaction Test Transaction Test Succeeded Running Transaction Erasing: curl- java 1/1 Removed: curl-java.i386 0:0.2.3.SVN-2 Complete! [r...@arrakis i386]# [r...@arrakis i386]# jar -tf /usr/share/java/curljava.jar java.io.FileNotFoundException: /usr/share/java/curljava.jar (No such file or directory) at java.io.FileInputStream.open(Native Method) at java.io.FileInputStream.(FileInputStream.java:137) at java.io.FileInputStream.(FileInputStream.java:96) at sun.tools.jar.Main.run(Main.java:223) at sun.tools.jar.Main.main(Main.java:1044) [r...@arrakis i386]# [r...@arrakis i386]# ll total 76 -rw-r--r-- 1 makerpm makerpm 12935 2009-06-01 00:58 curl- java-0.2.3-2.i386.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 makerpm makerpm 13202 2009-06-05 15:23 curl- java-0.2.3.SVN-2.i386.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 makerpm makerpm 20300 2009-06-01 00:58 curl-java- debuginfo-0.2.3-2.i386.rpm -rw-r--r-- 1 makerpm makerpm 20503 2009-06-05 15:23 curl-java- debuginfo-0.2.3.SVN-2.i386.rpm [r...@arrakis i386]# [r...@arrakis i386]# rpm -ivh curl-java-0.2.3-2.i386.rpm Preparing...### [100%] 1:curl-java ### [100%] [r...@arrakis i386]# [r...@arrakis i386]# rpm -qa curl-java-0.2.3-2.i386 [r...@arrakis i386]# [r...@arrakis i386]# rpm -qa curl-java-0.2.3-2.i386.rpm [r...@arrakis i386]# [r...@arrakis i386]# jar -tf /usr/share/java/curljava.jar CurlGlue.class CurlIO.class CurlRead.class CurlWrite.class META-INF/ META-INF/MANIFEST.MF [r...@arrakis i386]# [r...@arrakis i386]# yum -y remove curl-java-0.2.3-2.i386 Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit Setting up Remove Process Resolving Dependencies --> Running transaction check ---> Package curl-java.i386 0:0.2.3-2 set to be erased --> Finished Dependency Resolution Dependencies Resolved === Package ArchVersion RepositorySize === Removing: curl-javai3860.2.3-2 installed 14 k Transaction Summary === Install 0 Package(s) Update 0 Package(s) Remove 1 Package(s) Downloading Packages: Running rpm_check_debug Running Transaction Test Finished Transaction Test Transaction Test Succeeded Running Transaction Erasing: curl- java 1/1 Removed: curl-java.i386 0:0.2.3-2 Complete! [r...@arrakis i386]# [r...@arrakis i386]# [r...@arrakis i386]# jar -tf /usr/share/java/curljava.jar java.io.FileNotFoundException: /usr/share/java/curljava.jar (No such file or directory) at java.io.FileInputStream.open(Native Method) at java.io.FileInputStream.(FileInputStream.java:137) at java.io.FileInputStream.(FileInputStream.java:96) at sun.tools.jar.Main.run(Main.java:223) at sun.to
ssh tutorial
Would anyone tell how to use ssh command in brief? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
