Re: Other host already uses address -
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 04:07:33PM -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: > >I am still running F-10, I will wait until things settle down to >try F-11 otherwise I burn up a lot of bandwidth doing updates >over and over. I have a satellite system for my internet >connection and I am limited to 17 gigs download per month. In >fact we had heavy rain this afternoon and the signal was blocked >by the rain for about two hours. > >The computer with the problems is a new [to me] used computer >with a new LiveCD Gnome install. > About that , now f-11 has deltarpms you don't have to worry about that. On my fresh livecd gnome install the update size was 81M but thanks to presto it only downloaded 10M which amounts to 90% savings ! except the anaconda storage bugs and soundcard not working i am quite impressed with f-11 it is definitely snappier and better than f-10. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Repolist Problem
Hi All, Have just upgraded from F10 to F11, it all seemed to go well. However, I am having trouble with yum as it is not fetching info from livna or RPMfusion. I tried to have a look at my repolist but got this error message: yum repolist Loaded plugins: dellsysidplugin2, presto, protect-packages, protectbase, : refresh-packagekit http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/11/i386/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found Trying other mirror. http://livna.cat.pdx.edu/fedora/11/i386/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found Trying other mirror. http://wftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/livna/fedora/11/i386/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found Trying other mirror. http://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/rpm.livna.org/fedora/11/i386/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found Trying other mirror. http://mirror.atrpms.net/livna/fedora/11/i386/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found Trying other mirror. ftp://mirrors.tummy.com/pub/rpm.livna.org/fedora/11/i386/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 4] IOError: directory.> Trying other mirror. Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: livna. Please verify its path and try again [r...@localhost ~]# I need some help. Thank you in anticipation. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Other host already uses address -
Partha wrote: On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 04:07:33PM -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: I am still running F-10, I will wait until things settle down to try F-11 otherwise I burn up a lot of bandwidth doing updates over and over. I have a satellite system for my internet connection and I am limited to 17 gigs download per month. In fact we had heavy rain this afternoon and the signal was blocked by the rain for about two hours. The computer with the problems is a new [to me] used computer with a new LiveCD Gnome install. About that , now f-11 has deltarpms you don't have to worry about that. On my fresh livecd gnome install the update size was 81M but thanks to presto it only downloaded 10M which amounts to 90% savings ! except the anaconda storage bugs and soundcard not working i am quite impressed with f-11 it is definitely snappier and better than f-10. I am glad to hear that! I will install F-11 as soon as the furor dies down. At the moment I have three running F-10 but will eventually upgrade one, and then all ... I did a "preupgrade> from 9 to 10 on one computer and lost everything when it did not complete ... fortunately I had most but not all files backed up! Each new distro has been better than the preceding one though. Thanks. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: Resume from hibernate on X61 laptop.
On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 07:56 -0700, Jason Ish wrote: > Did not installing swap from the beginning cause an issue here? I > ask, b/c suspend and hibernate just worked on this laptop with F9 and > F10. Possibly... Prior behaviour (and probably still current), is that the initrd file created when installing a kernel holds a reference to swap that's used when resuming. You can make a new initrd (mkinitrd) or add a resume= parameter to the kernel line in the grub.conf file. With the location for the swap written after the equals sign. NB: If you use a swap file in a location that needs mounting before it's possible to access it, I don't think you're going to be able to resume from it. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.24-78.2.53.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Repolist Problem
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 17:06:32 +1000, Anthony wrote: > Hi All, > Have just upgraded from F10 to F11, it all seemed to go well. However, I > am having trouble with yum as it is not fetching info from livna or > RPMfusion. > I tried to have a look at my repolist but got this error message: > yum repolist > Loaded plugins: dellsysidplugin2, presto, protect-packages, protectbase, > : refresh-packagekit > http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/11/i386/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP > Error 404: Not Found Livna has discontinued its service long ago and only provides a single package in its repos. There is no Fedora 11 repo at Livna yet. As a work-around, you can edit your /etc/yum.repos/*livna*.repo files and replace $release with 10. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Firefox - open site from a link in a different program
On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 22:57 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: > With the Firefox that was included in F10, when I clicked on a link in > my email client that link would open in a new tab in Firefox. That sort of thing's always been a "tabs" preference in the Firefox program, itself. See how yours are set up. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.24-78.2.53.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: HOWTO? Install TrueType fonts (not MS freefonts) onto Fedora 10
On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 00:31 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > I don't think that is correct. If you move a file within the same file > system or you copy using the appropiate preserve option then you > should get the original context (assuming selinux doesn't block this). > Otherwise the context depends on the context cp is running in and the > context of the directory it is being copied to (usually you get the > same context as the directory). Once and for all, the behaviour is: If you *simply* copy a file, the newly written copy gets given the appropriate contexts for the location it's been written to. You can change that behaviour with copying options. If you simply move a file, then the contexts applied to the original file (which are probably wrong) will still be applied to the newly moved file. This is why things foul up when people create configuration files in their own homespace, then move them to the correct location. They still have userspace contexts, instead of system/configuration contexts. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.24-78.2.53.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: HOWTO? Install TrueType fonts (not MS freefonts) onto Fedora 10
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Tim wrote: >> Surely not... If you copy a file to a standard location, it should get >> set the proper contexts, during the copy. > > That's not how SELinux works. It'll copy the context from the original > location. You need to explicitly relabel the file to the default context > for the new location. > That's completely wrong Kevin. You have to explictly copy the SELInux context. Infact, the normal recommendation is to cp instead of mv so that your files get the appropriate context when they are copied. -- Fedora 10 (www.pembo13.com) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: HOWTO? Install TrueType fonts (not MS freefonts) onto Fedora 10
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Ted Roche wrote: > Mark Simonson (http://www.marksimonson.com/) has posted a > freely-distributable fixed-width font I'd like to try out as a > programmers font. It comes as a TrueType font. Up to now, I've just > worked with the fonts provided with the distribution and haven't tried > to install a font. Googling for some directions give irrelevant and > obsolete (FC3!) guidance. Trying the GNOME help tells me to use a font > preference tool I haven't been able to locate (System|Preferences|Look > & Feel|Fonts lets me choose from installed fonts, but no option to > install. > > Can someone point me to a good resource or HOWTO on > installing/converting a TrueType font to work in F10/X/GNOME? > > Tia, > If you have KDE, open up Dolphin, go to 'fonts:/Personal'. Open up a new Dolphin window. Drag fonts from new dolphin window to 'fonts:/Personal' -- Fedora 10 (www.pembo13.com) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: Resume from hibernate on X61 laptop.
Fernando Cassia wrote: On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Jason Ish mailto:i...@unx.ca>> wrote: I'm hoping I just missed something here. I recently installed F11 on my Lenovo X61 laptop without a swap partition, I've since added one (and set it up in /etc/fstab) as I'd like hibernate to work. Currently hibernate will go down, but it will not come back. When booting up, the swap part of the init process just says something about user space swap data found, reinitializing. Did not installing swap from the beginning cause an issue here? I ask, b/c suspend and hibernate just worked on this laptop with F9 and F10. I have installed Fedora 11 with a 200 MB /boot, 25 Gig EXT4 root, and 1.5 Gig Swap partition. Hibernate starts, and works. But upon resume, I get a black screen and a stuck mouse pointer, with some disk activity every minute or so. There seems to be a problem with certain kernels, I haven't upgraded yet to F11, but on CentOS 5.4pre, there are also some problems with the newest kernel, try a different kernel (older or even newer) and do as Tim suggested add resume= in /boot/grub/grub.conf at the end of the kernel line, however this is not a requirement -- Toshaan - http://www.toshaan.be -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ti_usb_3410_5052: probe of 3-2:1.0 failed with error -5 ??
Gregory Machin wrote:
Hi
I have a Huawei device that I have been using on fc 8 and fc 10. But
now with fc 11 it does not work.
Here is the log file entries for the device.
Jun 13 15:42:25 localhost kernel: usb 3-2: USB disconnect, address 26
Jun 13 15:42:25 localhost kernel: usb 3-2: new full speed USB device
using uhci_hcd and address 27
Jun 13 15:42:25 localhost kernel: usb 3-2: New USB device found,
idVendor=0451, idProduct=3410
Jun 13 15:42:25 localhost kernel: usb 3-2: New USB device strings:
Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
Jun 13 15:42:25 localhost kernel: usb 3-2: Product: TUSB3410 Boot Device
Jun 13 15:42:25 localhost kernel: usb 3-2: Manufacturer: Texas Instruments
Jun 13 15:42:25 localhost kernel: usb 3-2: SerialNumber: TUSB3410
Jun 13 15:42:25 localhost kernel: usb 3-2: configuration #1 chosen
from 2 choices
Jun 13 15:42:25 localhost kernel: ti_usb_3410_5052 3-2:1.0: TI USB
3410 1 port adapter converter detected
Jun 13 15:42:25 localhost kernel: ti_usb_3410_5052: probe of 3-2:1.0
failed with error -5<<
Jun 13 15:42:25 localhost kernel: ti_usb_3410_5052 3-2:2.0: TI USB
3410 1 port adapter converter detected
Jun 13 15:42:25 localhost kernel: usb 3-2: TI USB 3410 1 port adapter
converter now attached to ttyUSB0
Jun 13 15:42:25 localhost NetworkManager: (ttyUSB0): ignoring
due to lack of mobile broadband capabilties
I have resolved this before by doing the following
create /etc/udev/rules.d/026_ti_usb_3410.rules
#TI USB 3410
SUBSYSTEM=="usb_device" ACTION=="add"
SYSFS{idVendor}=="0451",SYSFS{idProduct}=="3410" \
SYSFS{bNumConfigurations}=="2" \
SYSFS{bConfigurationValue}=="1" \
RUN+="/bin/sh -c 'echo 2> /sys%p/device/bConfigurationValue'"
I have coppied /lib/firmware/ti_3410.fw to /lib/firmware/ti_3410.bin
this fixed it on fc 10
I have coppied /lib/udev/rules.d/77-nm-probe-modem-capabilities.rules
to /etc/udev/rules.d/
Now I'm out of ideas please could someone advise ?
Thanks
your udev rule is different then whao worked for me, I did not need to
specify idVendor and idProduct details
SUBSYSTEM=="usb" , ACTION=="add" , \
ATTR{product}=="MSP−FET430UIF JTAG Tool" , \
ATTR{bNumConfigurations}=="2" , ATTR{ bConfigurationValue}="2"
Depending on your kernel Rob stated Fedora 11 should have an already
patched kernel, see blog
http://xgoat.com/wp/2009/03/29/fet430-firmware-already-fixed/
My paper
http://www.toshaan.be/publications/cybernetics/Programming_report.pdf ,
states everything, currently don't have the JTAG here, so I cannot test
it myself anymore
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Re: scim and keyboard input issues still
Craig White wrote: > On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 12:27 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> >> Maybe try one thing? >> >> Just for a test, create a new user and test with that to see if there is >> a difference. >> > > yes a difference...new user does not have the problem so maybe it is > related to systemsettings in KDE. Good thought > > Wellmultiple paths to narrow it down. One idea would be to save copies of the .scim and .kde directories of the new user and then make the same changes to the new user that you think resulted in the problem. If it does then you can see what files have changed and then determine what needs to be fixed. Ed signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Adobe flash-player not working for F11 x86_64
Hi friends, I have installed Fedora 11 x86_64 on my laptop. But adobe flash-player don't work on 64 bit platform. It gives error ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the Adobe Flash Player installer. I could not find out the x86_64 version of flash player. Is it available? If not is there any trick to this so that I can install flash player and enjoy the videos on net? -Digvijay -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Adobe flash-player not working for F11 x86_64
Hi, read this: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash Peter 2009-06-14 12:30 keltezéssel, Digvijay Patankar írta: Hi friends, I have installed Fedora 11 x86_64 on my laptop. But adobe flash-player don't work on 64 bit platform. It gives error ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the Adobe Flash Player installer. I could not find out the x86_64 version of flash player. Is it available? If not is there any trick to this so that I can install flash player and enjoy the videos on net? -Digvijay -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Adobe flash-player not working for F11 x86_64
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Digvijay Patankar < digvijay_patan...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi friends, > I have installed Fedora 11 x86_64 on my laptop. > But adobe flash-player don't work on 64 bit platform. > It gives error > > ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the >Adobe Flash Player installer. > > I could not find out the x86_64 version of flash player. Is it available? > If not is there any trick to this so that I can install flash player and > enjoy the videos on net? > -Digvijay > > I have it here: http://orion.lcg.ufrj.br/RPMS/myrpms-f10-x86_64/repoview/flash-plugin.html -- Paulo Roma Cavalcanti LCG - UFRJ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Repolist Problem
On 14.06.2009 10:15, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 17:06:32 +1000, Anthony wrote: > >> Have just upgraded from F10 to F11, it all seemed to go well. However, I >> am having trouble with yum as it is not fetching info from livna or >> RPMfusion. >> I tried to have a look at my repolist but got this error message: >> yum repolist >> Loaded plugins: dellsysidplugin2, presto, protect-packages, protectbase, >> : refresh-packagekit >> http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/11/i386/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP >> Error 404: Not Found > > Livna has discontinued its service long ago Not really true, as I'd call this > and only provides a single package in its repos. as service ;-) > There is no Fedora 11 repo at Livna yet. That's untrue, there are repos that work fine with rawhide and F11 for a long time. The user seems to use a old and outdated repo file -- I guess he had not configured livna properly (e.g. using the livna-release rpm) or he didn't merge rpmnew files. Note that http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/ is old, outdated and unmainted and what livna does now is in http://rpm.livna.org/repo/ > As a > work-around, you can edit your /etc/yum.repos/*livna*.repo files and > replace $release with 10. Real solution: Do "rm -rf /etc/yum.repos/*livna*.repo" and then enable rpm.livna.org as decsribed on http://rpm.livna.org CU knurd -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Test - please ignore
Hi, I didn't see the posting that I sent to the list yesterday show up so another posting to test. Apologies for the noise. Regards, Patrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Gdm hangs while waiting on power manager
Hi, Did a clean install of F11 x86_64. When the laptop boots I noticed that there was quite a delay for gdm to startup. Also when I press enter to select the default user it lasts at least 5 seconds for the password line to appear. I noticed this message in /var/log/messages: Jun 12 13:20:04 luna gdm-simple-greeter[4740]: WARNING: Could not ask power manager if user can suspend: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. $ ps ax | grep power 2369 ?S 0:01 /usr/libexec/devkit-power-daemon 3336 ?S 0:00 gnome-power-manager Anyone know how I can fix this error and hopefully remove the delay. Thanks and regards, Patrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Test - please ignore
On 14/06/09 12:12, Patrick wrote: Hi, I didn't see the posting that I sent to the list yesterday show up so another posting to test. Apologies for the noise. Regards, Patrick If your on Gmail it wont. Best place to check is: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/ Frank -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Possible Fedora 11 Intel Video Driver issue.
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Jason Dickerson wrote: > I have an IBM Thinkpad X30 that I upgraded from FC10 to FC11. It has an > Intel i830 Integrated Graphics Chipset. Everything worked fine on FC10 with > XAA acceleration and DRI. After the upgrade, I am getting UXA Acceleration > with DRI2, but there is font corruption, etc... Also, when I attempt to > play videos via Xine, VLC, Mplayer, or Gnome Mplayer; X crashes with no > error. After a great deal of trial and error, I found that if I change the > Driver for VLC, Mplayer, and Gnome Mplayer from xv to opengl; I can play the > video. However it is choppy and the video cannot be resized from its > original size. Xine however crashes, even when I set the video driver on > command line. > > My questions are: > > 1. Is there anyone out there with the Intel i830 chipset, maybe even a > Thinkpad X30, that can confirm this behavior? I know this is a laptop, but > the Intel video problem seems better suited to this larger audience, and > Intel video driver issues are not limited to laptops. I could be wrong > though... > 2. It is hard for me to know if there is already a bug for this, given the > myriad of Intel video bugs that are currently open for FC11. I would be > happy to open one, and include whatever info would be of help. I am not > sure if there is a way to turn on enhanced X11 logging, or if there is any > other logs besides Xorg.#.log. > 3. Does anyone know of any beta kernels and/or Intel video drivers I can > try? > 4. Before I go through the effort, is it worth trying a clean install? I > can't imagine how a clean install would help this, as the xorg.conf is > generated automatically on each start of X11, but maybe someone knows a > rational explanation. I had the same problem with F11.i386 on HP NX5000 laptop. > > Any and all suggestions welcome. ;) > > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Root Access
Around 06:19am on Sunday, June 14, 2009 (UK time), Mike Dwiggins scrawled: > I need to be able to log in as root to do my job! I wish it were not so > but, it is! Life always fair! What does logging in as root give you that can't be achieved by logging in as yourself and using su? Steve -- Play Champions - my free football predictions game at: http://www.stevesearle.com/champs/about.html 12:39:58 up 35 days, 23:04, 1 user, load average: 1.95, 1.52, 1.35 pgpGQpn4smTXd.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Root Access
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 01:42:53 -0400 Todd Zullinger wrote: There's some truly awful advice in this thread, aside from Robert Cochran's :-( > Mike Dwiggins wrote: > > Some of us are causal users who wander in from the Windows world! I > > wish I could live in Linux but, that ain't gonna happen! > > > > I need to be able to log in as root to do my job! I wish it were > > not so but, it is! Life always fair! Easy fix: * Log in as your normal user * "su -" (interactive root shell with full environment) * "su - -c "some command"" - run "some command" as root with appropriate environment * sudo "some command" (like above, simpler but needs sudo installed) - Fat-fingering a command like rm or fdisk / mkfs etc. as a user may result in limited damage. Doing so as root will be a disaster. Don't shoot yourself in the foot. - NEVER ssh as root. PermitRootLogin defaults to "no" in OpenSSH for good reason. If your root password is weak and an attacker guesses it, it's game over, your machine is compromised and you're another zombie in someone's botnet. Log in as a regular user and su - Many X programs are not designed to run with root privileges (xscreensaver refuses to - jwz has BOFH nature, bless him) or pose security risks when run as root (GTK apps spring to mind) Again, log in as a regular user, run your app and if it needs root privileges you'll be prompted for them. If a regular "user app" NEEDS root privileges and doesn't have a hook into ConsoleKit/consolehelper then frankly it's utter garbage and you would be wise to look at a packaged alternative. I'd be astonished if Opera couldn't save it's downloaded extensions to somewhere under $HOME like the Mozilla-based browsers do. > > I think some of that "need" might be based on the experiences you've > learned from in the Windows world. Permit me, as someone who has seen both sides (6 years systems admin on both sides of the fence, about 15 as a user - ex-Windows desktop user to Fedora desktop user and packager) to make some comments. > I think it's very unfortunate that > Microsoft has done such a poor job of encouraging and allowing users > to run with the least privilege needed. This isn't strictly Microsoft's fault alone. Their engineers have been aiming to get users to run with the least available rights (and good users / administrators have tried to do so, with mixed success) but a combination of laziness on the parts of application developers, "Enterprise" admins of MS domains and users (who are subject to and learn bad habits from lazy admins and developers) often results in users being added to Administrator groups (or just logging in to the Administrator account) with disasterous results. > In trying to help my friends > and family who cling to Windows, I am regularly appalled at needing to > login to an account with admin privilege to perform some task. A lot of the time this is installs / updates, for general day-to-day work most applications will run with regular user privileges. Perhaps not as gracefully as UNIX apps, but they can (will ask to run as an Administrator or other profile). Alas as most lazy installs have everyone running as Administrator most don't see it. :-( > In linux, I would only need to use su or sudo (or, in many cases, I'd > automatically be prompted for credentials when more privilege was > required). For the most part, I think Fedora gets this right much > more often than Microsoft does. *nods* - the ConsoleKit / console-helper apps are much more elegant - just prompt for the root password, no fuss, no complexity. Michael. -- Michael Fleming - (EMail/XMPP/Jabber) WWW: http://www.thatfleminggent.com Fedora / Red Hat Packages: http://www.thatfleminggent.com/rpm-packages Twitter: http://twitter.com/thatfleminggent -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 bind-chroot - a question?
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 22:45:28 -0400 Todd Zullinger wrote: > There was also a post on fedora-devel from the bind maintainer just a > few days ago regarding this issue: > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-June/msg00683.html > > From that thread: > >As the man suggested it would be nice to have a method to automatically >synchronize chroot and non-chroot during updates because it will simplify >administration. Why not just *always* run bind chroot? Have the files live in /var/named, then updates just update the one and only copy in /var/named? If someone somewhere really and truly doesn't want to run chroot, provide a --prefix option in named so he can tell it the config files are relative to /var/named instead of relative to /, but in any case the config files always live in one and only one place. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
SELinux problems after F10->F11 upgrade in x86_64 system
Hi all, there have been a lot (well over 100 during the 1st 12 hours) of dbusd-related SELinux denials after upgrading my x86_64 system from F10 to F11. In F10 and earlier SELinux problems were usually caused by various fail2ban operations but now these denials - probably due to updated fail2ban in F11 - are practically non-existent. In F10 (and earlier) it was possible to get rid of SELinux denials by compiling and installing a local module derived from either /var/log/messages or /var/log/audit/audit.log, as explained in SELinux FAQ. However, the local module method doesn't seem to be effective in the dbusd case - or I am doing something wrong. Compiling the local module doesn't report any errors but installing it results in: [r...@mybox ~]# semodule -i local.pp libsepol.print_missing_requirements: local's global requirements were not met: type/attribute unconfined_t libsemanage.semanage_link_sandbox: Link packages failed semodule: Failed! [r...@mybox ~]# After running 'touch /.autorelabel; reboot' I got rid of 'File label' denials but the 'dbusd' ones are still there. So what now? TIA, Antti -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: scim and keyboard input issues still
On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 17:43 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 12:27 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > >> > >> Maybe try one thing? > >> > >> Just for a test, create a new user and test with that to see if there is > >> a difference. > >> > > > > yes a difference...new user does not have the problem so maybe it is > > related to systemsettings in KDE. Good thought > > > > > Wellmultiple paths to narrow it down. > > One idea would be to save copies of the .scim and .kde directories of > the new user and then make the same changes to the new user that you > think resulted in the problem. If it does then you can see what files > have changed and then determine what needs to be fixed. yeah I got that. Curiously enough, this 'new user' did not have the symlink for .xinputrc to scim.conf but things didn't change when I started it manually so I have to do a bunch of testing and I was way too tired last night after the initial attempts at 'mv' files from .kde/share/config didn't seem to help. Since each change requires a logout, troubleshooting is a process that takes a lot of time. Thanks, I think I see the path towards solving but it's not a simple one. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Adobe flash-player not working for F11 x86_64
On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 12:34 +0200, Major Péter wrote: > Hi, > > read this: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash > > Peter > > 2009-06-14 12:30 keltezéssel, Digvijay Patankar írta: > > Hi friends, > > I have installed Fedora 11 x86_64 on my laptop. > > But adobe flash-player don't work on 64 bit platform. > > It gives error > > > > ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the > > Adobe Flash Player installer. > > > > I could not find out the x86_64 version of flash player. Is it available? > > If not is there any trick to this so that I can install flash player and > > enjoy the videos on net? > > -Digvijay > > > > > > See instructions at this page: http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f11.html -- James Bridge -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 livecd-iso-to-disk
Mike Cloaked wrote: fedora list wrote: Install Doc 2.4.2.2 http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f11/en-US/html/ch02s04s02s02.html I followed this install method today on a Dell Latitude 610 and it was fast and flawless with one exception. The usbdrive must be unmounted to write the image. su -c 'livecd-iso-to-disk *the_image.iso* /dev/*sdX1*' Newbies may not catch that. In my case I wanted to install from a usbkey but using the full DVD iso as it contains so many more packages. I added a section containing a how-to at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo#How_to_Make_a_bootable_USB_Drive_to_Install_Fedora_11_instead_of_using_a_physical_DVD I hope this will also help. There are two things which would make the page more obvious. The first is how boot.iso gets on your system or how to find it if it's installed by yum, and the second what type filesystem you expect to find on the USB key, since some of us have old USB keys around which have been rewritten for other uses. You might also mention mounting the key, since many people disable auto-mounting of media for various reasons. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ext4 for '/' was not allowed in fedora-11
Konstantin Svist wrote: Frank Elsner wrote: Make a seperate /boot an ext3 and all the other ext4. By the way, why ext3 and not ext2? I thought ext2 was lighter, and since /boot is usually used in read-only mode, stuff like journaling doesn't matter Agree, but it really doesn't make a lot of difference, since it adds minimal overhead. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Repolist Problem
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 12:35:47 +0200, Thorsten wrote: > > Livna has discontinued its service long ago > > Not really true, as I'd call this > > > and only provides a single package in its repos. > > as service ;-) Splitting-hairs. > > There is no Fedora 11 repo at Livna yet. > > That's untrue, there are repos that work fine with rawhide and F11 for a > long time. > > The user seems to use a old and outdated repo file -- I guess he had not > configured livna properly (e.g. using the livna-release rpm) or he > didn't merge rpmnew files. > > Note that > http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/ > is old, outdated and unmainted That's bad and misleading, too. > and what livna does now is in > http://rpm.livna.org/repo/ > > > As a > > work-around, you can edit your /etc/yum.repos/*livna*.repo files and > > replace $release with 10. > > Real solution: Do "rm -rf /etc/yum.repos/*livna*.repo" and then enable > rpm.livna.org as decsribed on http://rpm.livna.org > > CU > knurd > http://rpm.livna.org/mirrorlist and http://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/rpm.livna.org/mirrorlist point to at least one mirror that only carries '5' and '8': http://wftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/livna/repo/ Way too confusing the deeper one looks into it. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Running programs via VNC problem with Fedora 11
I'm seeing things that work fine under Fedora 10 not work under Fedora 11. Here is the latest example. If connected via vnc, I can run nmapfe as a regular user, but get the limitation message about being non-root. If I use su and then run the program the following occurs. No protocol specified File "/usr/bin/nmapfe", line 102, in import zenmapGUI.App File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/zenmapGUI/App.py", line 34, in import gtk File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py", line 79, in _init() File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py", line 67, in _init _gtk.init_check() No protocol specified Error in sys.excepthook: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/nmapfe", line 47, in excepthook import gtk File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py", line 79, in _init() File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py", line 67, in _init _gtk.init_check() RuntimeError: could not open display Original exception was: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/nmapfe", line 102, in import zenmapGUI.App File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/zenmapGUI/App.py", line 34, in import gtk File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py", line 79, in _init() File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py", line 67, in _init _gtk.init_check() RuntimeError: could not open display Since it can run as a regular user, is this a policykit or other error. Works fine in Fedora 10 and before. +--+ Michael D. Setzer II - Computer Science Instructor Guam Community College Computer Center mailto:mi...@kuentos.guam.net mailto:msetze...@gmail.com http://www.guam.net/home/mikes Guam - Where America's Day Begins +--+ http://setiathome.berkeley.edu (Original) Number of Seti Units Returned: 19,471 Processing time: 32 years, 290 days, 12 hours, 58 minutes (Total Hours: 287,489) bo...@home CREDITS SETI 7,988,026.9058 | EINSTEIN 2,613,744.1609 | ROSETTA 970,855.8736 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Install from Live CD has wrong host name
I have gotten into the habit of installing from Live CD, since I want to verify that my hardware is still supported by the current release. It seems that if you do that the following happens: - the install starts - the hostname screen appears with the correct hostname obtained from DHCP - the system is installed with hostname localh...@localdomain instead - you get to hand edit entries in sysconfig and /etc/hosts to fix it I haven't tried install from the install DVD yet, but on a virtual install it seems to offer the localhost name right away instead of using DHCP, then keeps the name you enter. Is this because I haven't changed the name? Would it work if I deleted the (corrent) name from DHCP and then manually typed in the same value? Finally, is this for some reason the intended behavior, for some political correctness reason? -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: DVD installer on USB stick
Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi If you downloaded the DVD image and want to install it from the USB key without burning it, read http://wtogami.livejournal.com/30245.html Very nice. What would it take to make it work with older ISO images, even non-Fedora images? For testing I sometimes install SuSE, OpenSolaris, etc, on a machine to compare behavior to Fedora on "bare iron" rather than virtual machines. Particularly if I suspect timing issues matter (or I'm actually measuring timing). -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to stop pulseaudio (Was: No audio on F11 and pulseaudio questions)
Chris wrote: Despite a few useful suggestions to my earlier thread I can't stop pulseaudio from respawning on F11. Does anyone know how to stop it? I've searched /etc/event.d and /etc/init.d and can't see how it's started or why it insists on respawning. The reason I want to do this is that I have no audio and I'm trying to figure out the cause. yum erase PulseAudio -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
trac not working after upgrade to F11
I upgraded to F11 a few days ago one of my servers and I have problems with the account module of trac. It give me internal errors when trying to login: Trac[main] WARNING: HTTPInternalError: 500 Trac Error (Authentication information not available. Please refer to the installation documentation.) Trac is running as a mod_python in apache. I'm also getting in trac.log this: Trac[env] WARNING: base_url option not set in configuration, generated links may be incorrect -- Martín Marqués select 'martin.marques' || '@' || 'gmail.com' DBA, Programador, Administrador -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Root Access
Michael Fleming wrote: > - NEVER ssh as root. PermitRootLogin defaults to "no" in OpenSSH for > good reason. If your root password is weak and an attacker guesses > it, it's game over, your machine is compromised and you're another > zombie in someone's botnet. Log in as a regular user and su A minor nit, but root login is allowed by default in upstream OpenSSH (and in the Fedora packages). I disable that on my systems, which I think it a good practice. But the default allows root logins for a number of reasons, one of which, I believe, is that there may not be any users on the system when it is first installed and an admin may need to ssh in and create them (for those admins that don't have kickstart, cobbler, puppet, and/or some other handy tool(s) for provisioning new systems). >> I think it's very unfortunate that Microsoft has done such a poor >> job of encouraging and allowing users to run with the least >> privilege needed. > > This isn't strictly Microsoft's fault alone. Their engineers have > been aiming to get users to run with the least available rights (and > good users / administrators have tried to do so, with mixed success) > but a combination of laziness on the parts of application > developers, "Enterprise" admins of MS domains and users (who are > subject to and learn bad habits from lazy admins and developers) > often results in users being added to Administrator groups (or just > logging in to the Administrator account) with disasterous results. Well, I don't give MS much slack on this, as it should mostly be their responsibility to make it possible to easily run without administrator privileges. The fact that it's only in the last 10 years or less that that they've even been talking about least user privilege shows how far behind the curve they are. But that's already getting pretty far off-topic for this list and this thread. ;) -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ There are no differences but differences of degree between different degrees of difference and no difference. -- William James, under nitrous oxide; 1882 pgpD09yulrRGn.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Repolist Problem
On 14.06.2009 15:15, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 12:35:47 +0200, Thorsten wrote: > >>> Livna has discontinued its service long ago >> Not really true, as I'd call this >> >>> and only provides a single package in its repos. >> as service ;-) > Splitting-hairs. Well, I added a smiley, but "discontinued" nevertheless is not the case afaics -- especially as I've heard that livna will continue to support new Fedora and EL releases. And in fact support for EL is even something Livna didn't offer in the past. >>> There is no Fedora 11 repo at Livna yet. >> That's untrue, there are repos that work fine with rawhide and F11 for a >> long time. >> >> The user seems to use a old and outdated repo file -- I guess he had not >> configured livna properly (e.g. using the livna-release rpm) or he >> didn't merge rpmnew files. >> >> Note that >> http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/ >> is old, outdated and unmainted > > That's bad and misleading, too. And your suggestion is what? Remove all the old stuff? I guess the users on old and outdated releases won't like that (but not sure if the livna maintainers should care). >> and what livna does now is in >> http://rpm.livna.org/repo/ >> >>> As a >>> work-around, you can edit your /etc/yum.repos/*livna*.repo files and >>> replace $release with 10. >> Real solution: Do "rm -rf /etc/yum.repos/*livna*.repo" and then enable >> rpm.livna.org as decsribed on http://rpm.livna.org > > http://rpm.livna.org/mirrorlist > and > http://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/rpm.livna.org/mirrorlist > > point to at least one mirror that only carries '5' and '8': > http://wftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/livna/repo/ > > Way too confusing the deeper one looks into it. I guess it's a simple mirror problem as livna afaics works with symlinks that some mirrors afaics don't retrieve. CU knurd -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Prioritize NM devices?
Is there some trick I've missed to tell NetworkManager to try one connection first, and failover to another, but not to bring up both connections at the same time. Doing that manually is just one more step required. Use cases: - don't bring up wireless if the cable connect is available - use the internal wireless if available before tunneling from a hotspot -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
bluetooth depends on pulseaudio? (was Re: How to stop pulseaudio)
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 09:36:05 -0400 Bill Davidsen wrote: > yum erase PulseAudio I did that, and while it works fine for me, I noticed that gnome-bluetooth depends on pulseaudio, so it takes gnome-bluetooth with it. I can see a pulseaudio plugin needing bluetooth, but I have no idea why you would need bluetooth to depend on pulseaudio :-). (actually it is spelled "yum erase pulseaudio" - no caps :-). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Root Access
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 09:39:59 -0400 Todd Zullinger wrote: > A minor nit, but root login is allowed by default in upstream OpenSSH > (and in the Fedora packages). I disable that on my systems, which I > think it a good practice. I use the nifty (relatively) new "Match" sshd_config stuff to disable root login (and any kind of simple password login for that matter) from IP addresses outside my local network, so I can still ssh as root easily inside my firewall, but if I'm coming from outside, I need the proper long passphrase protected public key and can only login as a normal user. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can Fedora 11 Mount an SCO OpenServer 5 (HTFS) disk?
Robert L Cochran wrote: I need to mount an SCO OpenServer 5 (HTFS) disk on Fedora 11. I think I can image the source hard drive to a USB flash drive and then just plug the drive into my Fedora 11 laptop. Will Fedora 11 mount the OpenServer partitions automatically, or do I need to enable this and compile the kernel first? I don't imagine OpenServer boxes are all over the place, but I stumbled into this one. (Smile). The information in /proc/filesystems should reflect the capabilities in the kernel, I don't remember if the modules need to be loaded to show capabilities. Modules are in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/fs and I don't see HTFS although the name might be different. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 bind-chroot - a question?
Tom Horsley wrote: > Why not just *always* run bind chroot? I'm guessing it's because, in general, Fedora is moving away from chroot and toward SELinux to provide extra security for these sorts of services? > Have the files live in /var/named, then updates just update the one > and only copy in /var/named? If someone somewhere really and truly > doesn't want to run chroot, provide a --prefix option in named so he > can tell it the config files are relative to /var/named instead of > relative to /, but in any case the config files always live in one > and only one place. That sounds like it would entail a similar amount of extra work and chances for introducing bugs that the bind-chroot-admin script had. If the bind daemon really is only trusted by admins when it is in a chroot, it might be a good reason to look at alternative DNS server software. :) I don't personally have much interest in this, but if other folks do, I'm sure suggestions in patch form would be taken more seriously by the bind maintainers (preferably upstream). -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ I expected times like this -- but never thought they'd be so bad, so long, and so frequent. -- Demotivators (www.despair.com) pgpn1FO3Qah29.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Firefox - open site from a link in a different program
Frank Cox wrote: With the Firefox that was included in F10, when I clicked on a link in my email client that link would open in a new tab in Firefox. With F11, the link opens in the currently-open tab in Firefox, replacing the content that I had there previously. The same thing happens when, for example, clicking "Learn More" in the Get Addons window -- the website appears in the currently open tab instead of opening a new one. How can I get the previous behaviour back? Sometimes I want to go through an email and click on all of the links, then switch to Firefox and read each tab. I can't do that any more. Open "about:config" in FF and look at the options there, or in the options for your mail program. I use seamonkey-2.0beta so it's all integrated there, and I can open in a tab. If your mail program somehow specifies using the current window you will have to fix it there. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to stop pulseaudio (Was: No audio on F11 and pulseaudio questions)
On 06/12/2009 08:08 PM, Chris wrote: > Despite a few useful suggestions to my earlier thread I can't stop > pulseaudio from respawning on F11. Does anyone know how to stop it? > I've searched /etc/event.d and /etc/init.d and can't see how it's > started or why it insists on respawning. > > The reason I want to do this is that I have no audio and I'm trying to > figure out the cause. Don't know if this has already been suggested. If so please ignore the noise. I also did not have audio after doing a clean F11 install. The solution for me was to go to System --> Preferences -> Advanced Volume Control. Next open the Preferences, enable Surround and drag the slider upwards. Also make sure the other sliders like Master, PCM, Front and CD are near the top. This fixed sound for me. Hope this helps. Regards, Patrick -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: trac not working after upgrade to F11
El 14 de junio de 2009 10:36, Martín Marqués escribió: > I upgraded to F11 a few days ago one of my servers and I have problems > with the account module of trac. It give me internal errors when > trying to login: > > Trac[main] WARNING: HTTPInternalError: 500 Trac Error (Authentication > information not available. Please refer to the href="/hogar/wiki/TracInstall#ConfiguringAuthentication" > title="Configuring Authentication">installation documentation.) > > Trac is running as a mod_python in apache. > > I'm also getting in trac.log this: > > Trac[env] WARNING: base_url option not set in configuration, generated > links may be incorrect Also, in previous F10 I had trac-webadmin running, and authentication was done with the accountmanager. -- Martín Marqués select 'martin.marques' || '@' || 'gmail.com' DBA, Programador, Administrador -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Repolist Problem
On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 15:40:46 +0200, Thorsten wrote: > >> Note that > >> http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/ > >> is old, outdated and unmainted > > > > That's bad and misleading, too. > > And your suggestion is what? Remove all the old stuff? I guess the users > on old and outdated releases won't like that (but not sure if the livna > maintainers should care). Replace the directory index with an index.html page that gives an explanation. At least copy the readme found in the development repo. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Google Desktop does not index Tbird beta
I'm not expecting this to be fixed by anyone reading this, but just pointing it out to save others the work of tracking it down. Google Desktop does not index mail in Thunderbird 3 beta 2. -- Steve -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: trac not working after upgrade to F11
El 14 de junio de 2009 11:03, Martín Marqués escribió: > El 14 de junio de 2009 10:36, Martín Marqués > escribió: >> I upgraded to F11 a few days ago one of my servers and I have problems >> with the account module of trac. It give me internal errors when >> trying to login: >> >> Trac[main] WARNING: HTTPInternalError: 500 Trac Error (Authentication >> information not available. Please refer to the > href="/hogar/wiki/TracInstall#ConfiguringAuthentication" >> title="Configuring Authentication">installation documentation.) >> >> Trac is running as a mod_python in apache. >> >> I'm also getting in trac.log this: >> >> Trac[env] WARNING: base_url option not set in configuration, generated >> links may be incorrect > > Also, in previous F10 I had trac-webadmin running, and authentication > was done with the accountmanager. Solved: Reinstalled AccountManager with the version of trac 0.11. Sorry for the noise. -- Martín Marqués select 'martin.marques' || '@' || 'gmail.com' DBA, Programador, Administrador -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
google-gadgets
Crash bug (#499139) seems to be open since a long time without any reaction and a new release (0.11) is out since May 31. Someone have news about this ? Thanks Eric -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Root Access
Once upon a time, Tim said: > On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 12:41 +0100, Steve Searle wrote: > > What does logging in as root give you that can't be achieved by > > logging in as yourself and using su? > > I imagine the common problem being using a menu to fire off the things > you want to configure. Everything that requires root access to configure should be prompting for it. If you find something that isn't, that's a bug and should be filed. -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Root Access
Around 03:27pm on Sunday, June 14, 2009 (UK time), Tim scrawled: > On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 12:41 +0100, Steve Searle wrote: > > What does logging in as root give you that can't be achieved by > > logging in as yourself and using su? > > I imagine the common problem being using a menu to fire off the things > you want to configure. Point taken, although I would have assumed it would be done from the command line. Steve -- Play Champions - my free football predictions game at: http://www.stevesearle.com/champs/about.html 15:36:44 up 36 days, 2:01, 1 user, load average: 1.28, 1.15, 1.23 pgpPFmpmE5N8N.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can Fedora 11 Mount an SCO OpenServer 5 (HTFS) disk?
On 06/14/2009 09:51 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Robert L Cochran wrote: I need to mount an SCO OpenServer 5 (HTFS) disk on Fedora 11. I think I can image the source hard drive to a USB flash drive and then just plug the drive into my Fedora 11 laptop. Will Fedora 11 mount the OpenServer partitions automatically, or do I need to enable this and compile the kernel first? I don't imagine OpenServer boxes are all over the place, but I stumbled into this one. (Smile). The information in /proc/filesystems should reflect the capabilities in the kernel, I don't remember if the modules need to be loaded to show capabilities. Modules are in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/fs and I don't see HTFS although the name might be different. Thank you, I learned something from you. I'm not sure if SCO OpenServer 5 is an htfs or a ufs filesystem. I read references to both on the web when I Google. I see ufs listed in this directory /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/fs So maybe the next time I am with that OpenServer box I can copy its file system and plug it into Fedora 11 and see what will happen. I'm not averse to compiling the kernel if I must. Bob -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Root Access
On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 12:41 +0100, Steve Searle wrote: > What does logging in as root give you that can't be achieved by > logging in as yourself and using su? I imagine the common problem being using a menu to fire off the things you want to configure. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.24-78.2.53.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Repolist Problem
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 10:15:35 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 17:06:32 +1000, Anthony wrote: > > > Hi All, > > Have just upgraded from F10 to F11, it all seemed to go well. However, I > > am having trouble with yum as it is not fetching info from livna or > > RPMfusion. > > I tried to have a look at my repolist but got this error message: > > yum repolist > > Loaded plugins: dellsysidplugin2, presto, protect-packages, protectbase, > > : refresh-packagekit > > http://rpm.livna.org/fedora/11/i386/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP > > Error 404: Not Found > > Livna has discontinued its service long ago and only provides a single > package in its repos. There is no Fedora 11 repo at Livna yet. As a > work-around, you can edit your /etc/yum.repos/*livna*.repo files and > replace $release with 10. Looking in http://rpm.livna.org/repo I see: Index of /repo [ICO] NameLast modified SizeDescription [DIR] Parent Directory- [DIR] 5/ 07-Dec-2008 14:33 - [DIR] 5Client/14-Jun-2009 15:32 - [DIR] 5Server/14-Jun-2009 15:32 - [DIR] 8/ 14-Jun-2009 12:31 - [DIR] 9/ 14-Jun-2009 15:32 - [DIR] 10/ 14-Jun-2009 15:32 - [DIR] 11.90/ 14-Jun-2009 15:32 - [DIR] 11.91/ 14-Jun-2009 15:32 - [DIR] 11.92/ 14-Jun-2009 15:32 - [DIR] 11/ 14-Jun-2009 15:32 - [DIR] 12/ 14-Jun-2009 15:32 - Apache/2.2.3 (CentOS) Server at rpm.livna.org Port 80 The timestamp is from today, so this might be a pretty recent change. (Also I think there are sym links involved here that you can see with rsync, but not http.) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Repolist Problem
No need to send a copy to me directly. I'm subscribed here. On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 09:49:41 -0500, Bruno wrote: > Looking in http://rpm.livna.org/repo I see: That's not the same than the previous location ( http://rpm.livna.org/fedora ) which users may have used as baseurls in their .repo files or in bookmarks. > (Also I think there are sym links involved here that you can see with > rsync, but not http.) Such symlinks would be useless if Yum could not see them either. ;) One level up one can find both repositories, the old "fedora/" tree *and* the new "repo/" tree: http://livna-dl.reloumirrors.net/ > The timestamp is from today, so this might be a pretty recent change. The corresponding livna-release package is from Dec last year. When changing file locations so drastically, one should remove old documentation and any pointers to the old locations in order to make the new location much easier to find. If one goes to parent directory at http://rpm.livna.org/fedora one even finds a click-me.html that redirects to an out-of-date Livna wiki about Fedora 8 and 9. No human resources to maintain all of this => get rid of it and avoid confusion. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Alsa and Pulseaudio
The music hasn't stopped, so I don't think this is serious... Jun 14 10:10:55 sds-desk pulseaudio[2385]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing wakeup watermark to 30.00 ms Jun 14 10:10:55 sds-desk pulseaudio[2385]: alsa-sink.c: ALSA woke us up to write new data to the device, but there was actually nothing to write! Jun 14 10:10:55 sds-desk pulseaudio[2385]: alsa-sink.c: Most likely this is a bug in the ALSA driver 'snd_ca0106'. Please report this issue to the ALSA developers. Jun 14 10:10:55 sds-desk pulseaudio[2385]: alsa-sink.c: We were woken up with POLLOUT set -- however a subsequent snd_pcm_avail() returned 0 or another value < min_avail. Jun 14 10:18:55 sds-desk pulseaudio[2385]: ratelimit.c: 8 events suppressed Jun 14 10:18:55 sds-desk pulseaudio[2385]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing wakeup watermark to 40.00 ms Jun 14 10:21:55 sds-desk pulseaudio[2385]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing wakeup watermark to 50.00 ms Jun 14 10:24:51 sds-desk pulseaudio[2385]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing wakeup watermark to 60.00 ms -- Steve -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Root Access
Tim: >> I imagine the common problem being using a menu to fire off the things >> you want to configure. Steve Searle: > Point taken, although I would have assumed it would be done from the > command line. Though they'd hardly need to log in graphically as root to do command line work. Two big problems for newcomers are knowing what commands they'll need to use, and how to use the commands. Graphical menus list what's available to you, and you can work out which ones you need to use, if they're created sensibly (their naming, additional pop-up menu hints, etc.). And well designed GUI tools should be self explanatory (sensible named and grouped options, etc.). To use a command line tool, you have to know the name of the command, in the first place. So prior experience, or good documentation is required. You can't get the experience from nowhere, and the documentation is getting worse and worse. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.24-78.2.53.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Root Access
Tim: >> I imagine the common problem being using a menu to fire off the >> things you want to configure. Chris Adams: > Everything that requires root access to configure should be prompting > for it. If you find something that isn't, that's a bug and should be > filed. By and large, that sort of thing seems to work well. Though it starts to get annoying having to type in the password, again, every few minutes as the password caching expires. Or, having to do something else to keep authentication before it self expires. I do see the user-interest in being able to login ONCE as root, and not have to authenticate again, as you spend a few minutes setting up network, then a few minutes setting up DNS, then a few minutes setting up printing, then a few minutes setting up users, etc., etc. But once past the initial set-up, managing administration as yourself, and occasionally typing in a root password when required, isn't too cumbersome. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.24-78.2.53.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Updates
I'm getting popup window, where is told, that I have 4 updates GeoIP-1.4.6-2.fc10 ppl-0.10.2-1.fc10 crda-1.0.1_2009.04.16-10.fc10 libkate-0.3.3-1.fc10 I've updated my system from fc10 to fc11 couple of days ago. When I accept update, I don't get them. Should I need them? They are for fc10. How I can get rid of them? Platform is 1386. Jarmo -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updates
On 06/14/2009 10:17 PM, jarmo wrote: > I'm getting popup window, where is told, that I have 4 updates > > GeoIP-1.4.6-2.fc10 > ppl-0.10.2-1.fc10 > crda-1.0.1_2009.04.16-10.fc10 > libkate-0.3.3-1.fc10 > > I've updated my system from fc10 to fc11 couple of days ago. > > When I accept update, I don't get them. Should I need them? > They are for fc10. How I can get rid of them? > Platform is 1386. Command line, try # yum repolist and # yum update Let us know the output Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updates
On sunnuntai 14 kesäkuu 2009 19:52:10 Rahul Sundaram wrote: > # yum repolist > > and > > # yum update > > Let us know the output > > Rahul yum repolist Loaded plugins: dellsysidplugin2, refresh-packagekit repo id repo name status adobe-linux-i386Adobe Systems Incorporated enabled: 17 fedora Fedora 11 - i386 enabled: 13 289 rpmfusion-free RPM Fusion for Fedora 11 - Free enabled:377 rpmfusion-free-updates RPM Fusion for Fedora 11 - Free - Updates enabled: 26 rpmfusion-nonfree RPM Fusion for Fedora 11 - Nonfree enabled:110 rpmfusion-nonfree-updates RPM Fusion for Fedora 11 - Nonfree - Updates enabled: 25 updates Fedora 11 - i386 - Updates enabled: 5 568 repolist: 19 412 yum update Loaded plugins: dellsysidplugin2, refresh-packagekit Setting up Update Process Resolving Dependencies --> Running transaction check ---> Package GeoIP.i386 0:1.4.6-2.fc10 set to be updated ---> Package crda.i386 0:1.0.1_2009.04.16-10.fc10 set to be updated ---> Package libkate.i386 0:0.3.3-1.fc10 set to be updated ---> Package ppl.i386 0:0.10.2-1.fc10 set to be updated --> Finished Dependency Resolution Dependencies Resolved == Package Arch VersionRepository Size == Updating: GeoIPi386 1.4.6-2.fc10 updates 703 k crda i386 1.0.1_2009.04.16-10.fc10 updates 20 k libkate i386 0.3.3-1.fc10 updates 47 k ppl i386 0.10.2-1.fc10 updates 1.6 M Transaction Summary == Install 0 Package(s) Update 4 Package(s) Remove 0 Package(s) Total download size: 2.4 M Is this ok [y/N]: Trying other mirror. http://ftp.informatik.uni- frankfurt.de/fedora/updates/11/i386/GeoIP-1.4.6-2.fc10.i386.rpm: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found Trying other mirror. http://mirror.arlug.ro/pub/fedora/linux/updates/11/i386/GeoIP-1.4.6-2.fc10.i386.rpm: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found Trying other mirror. http://mirror.etf.bg.ac.yu/fedora/updates/11/i386/GeoIP-1.4.6-2.fc10.i386.rpm: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found Trying other mirror. (1/4): GeoIP-1.4.6-2.fc10.i386.rpm | 9.7 kB 00:00 http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/fedora/linux/updates/11/i386/GeoIP-1.4.6-2.fc10.i386.rpm: (-1, u'Package does not match intended download') Trying other mirror. http://ftp.udl.es/pub/fedora/linux/updates/11/i386/GeoIP-1.4.6-2.fc10.i386.rpm: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found Trying other mirror. http://ftp.cc.uoc.gr/pub/fedora/linux/updates/11/i386/GeoIP-1.4.6-2.fc10.i386.rpm: [Errno 9] Requested Range Not Satisfiable Trying other mirror. http://fedora.intergenia.de/updates/11/i386/GeoIP-1.4.6-2.fc10.i386.rpm: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found Trying other mirror. ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/linux/distributions/fedora/linux/updates/11/i386/GeoIP-1.4.6-2.fc10.i386.rpm: [Errno 4] IOError: [Errno ftp error] [Errno ftp error] 550 GeoIP-1.4.6-2.fc10.i386.rpm: No such file or directory. Trying other mirror. http://fedora.mirror.garr.it/mirrors/fedora/linux/updates/11/i386/GeoIP-1.4.6-2.fc10.i386.rpm: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found Trying other mirror. http://ftp.funet.fi/pub/mirrors/fedora.redhat.com
Re: Updates
On 06/14/2009 10:52 PM, jarmo wrote: > > It is obvious, that they can't be found from fc11 repo's, 'cause they > are for fc10. Why do fc11 need them? Seems you have packages left over from the upgrade # package-cleanup --dupes If you have dupes, run # package-cleanup --cleandupes Then do, #package-cleanup --problems Finally check, # yum list installed | grep fc10 remove them manually if needed Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 bind-chroot - a question?
On 06/14/2009 07:51 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: > administration. > > Why not just *always* run bind chroot? If someone installs bind-chroot - then yes obviously. > Have the files live in /var/named, No. If bind-chroot is installed then all files should live under the chroot. If non-chroot'ed bind - then they should live under the non-chroot'ed root (ie /). Either way - there should only be one set of files - period. Links are pointless. And selinux should do its selinux thing either way. Best I can understand the current F11 does not set up the chroot correctly - second hand as I have yet to install f11. gene/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: scim and keyboard input issues still
On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 17:43 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 12:27 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > >> > >> Maybe try one thing? > >> > >> Just for a test, create a new user and test with that to see if there is > >> a difference. > >> > > > > yes a difference...new user does not have the problem so maybe it is > > related to systemsettings in KDE. Good thought > > > > > Wellmultiple paths to narrow it down. > > One idea would be to save copies of the .scim and .kde directories of > the new user and then make the same changes to the new user that you > think resulted in the problem. If it does then you can see what files > have changed and then determine what needs to be fixed. this was my problem (as you can see, I have renamed it so that it did not load this time I logged in)... $ cat kxkbrc.bak [Layout] DisplayNames=us IndicatorOnly=false LayoutList=us Options= ResetOldOptions=true ShowFlag=true ShowSingle=false SwitchMode=Global Use=true [Locale] Language=en_US:zh_CN [cr...@lin-workstation config]$ I would think that this would be benign but if I rename it back again, I will lose the use of a number of keys on my keyboard including the arrow keys, the delete key, probably the home/insert/page up/page down keys (I didn't check them). Thanks for the help...now if only you could teach me Chinese as quickly. :-) Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 bind-chroot - a question?
On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 09:52 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: > Tom Horsley wrote: > > Why not just *always* run bind chroot? > > I'm guessing it's because, in general, Fedora is moving away from > chroot and toward SELinux to provide extra security for these sorts of > services? > > > Have the files live in /var/named, then updates just update the one > > and only copy in /var/named? If someone somewhere really and truly > > doesn't want to run chroot, provide a --prefix option in named so he > > can tell it the config files are relative to /var/named instead of > > relative to /, but in any case the config files always live in one > > and only one place. > > That sounds like it would entail a similar amount of extra work and > chances for introducing bugs that the bind-chroot-admin script had. > If the bind daemon really is only trusted by admins when it is in a > chroot, it might be a good reason to look at alternative DNS server > software. :) > > I don't personally have much interest in this, but if other folks do, > I'm sure suggestions in patch form would be taken more seriously by > the bind maintainers (preferably upstream). I think that for backwards compatibility, they have always had a separate package for bind-chroot but it does make sense to always run that way. Also, there is a long history of attacks on public DNS servers for so many reasons and some of that is weaknesses in BIND software but much of it owes to the value of the target itself. If you control the DNS server, you control the domain(s) it serves. I don't personally see how using a different DNS server package or running SELinux is involved with the decisions of bind-chroot packaging decisions. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updates
2009/6/14 Rahul Sundaram : > > # yum list installed | grep fc10 > > remove them manually if needed Carefull. Rahul said "if needed". Some packages in F11 are named fc10, asw they are packages that haven't changed and so version name hasn't changed as well. Just so you don't end up removeing packages like unique or libdhcp4client.. -- Martín Marqués select 'martin.marques' || '@' || 'gmail.com' DBA, Programador, Administrador -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updates
On 06/14/2009 11:35 PM, Martín Marqués wrote: > 2009/6/14 Rahul Sundaram >> >> # yum list installed | grep fc10 >> >> remove them manually if needed > > Carefull. Rahul said "if needed". Some packages in F11 are named fc10, > asw they are packages that haven't changed and so version name hasn't > changed as well. > > Just so you don't end up removeing packages like unique or libdhcp4client.. The former has a Fedora 11 version. The latter is obsolete. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: sha256sun
Not quite. You want to -c against the small CHECKSUM file, which contains a list of ISOs and their sha256sums. For example: $ sha256sum -c Fedora-11-i386-CHECKSUM I don't get it! you want me to match a downloadable checksum text file to what? how do i get the numbers from the iso file to check against the checksums? you are not telling me all. you are falsely assuming i know more than i do.am I not trying to match the checksums with what the developer says they are to be against what the file contains to insure that the iso file isn't corrupted and reduce later grief during install. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updates
2009/6/14 Rahul Sundaram : > On 06/14/2009 11:35 PM, Martín Marqués wrote: >> 2009/6/14 Rahul Sundaram >>> >>> # yum list installed | grep fc10 >>> >>> remove them manually if needed >> >> Carefull. Rahul said "if needed". Some packages in F11 are named fc10, >> asw they are packages that haven't changed and so version name hasn't >> changed as well. >> >> Just so you don't end up removeing packages like unique or libdhcp4client.. > > The former has a Fedora 11 version. The latter is obsolete. Where is the F11 version of unique - I don't see it... Also, what about these? [...@samlap ~]$ sudo yum list | grep fc10 axis.x86_64 1.2.1-4.1.fc10 fedora axis-javadoc.x86_64 1.2.1-4.1.fc10 fedora axis-manual.x86_641.2.1-4.1.fc10 fedora castor.x86_64 0.9.5-3.fc10fedora castor-demo.x86_640.9.5-3.fc10fedora castor-doc.x86_64 0.9.5-3.fc10fedora castor-javadoc.x86_64 0.9.5-3.fc10fedora castor-test.x86_640.9.5-3.fc10fedora castor-xml.x86_64 0.9.5-3.fc10fedora compat-db.x86_64 4.6.21-5.fc10 fedora compat-db46.x86_644.6.21-5.fc10 fedora cowbell.x86_640.3-0.svn34.4.fc10 fedora fityk.i3860.8.1-14.fc10 fedora fityk.x86_64 0.8.1-14.fc10 fedora fityk-devel.i386 0.8.1-14.fc10 fedora fityk-devel.x86_640.8.1-14.fc10 fedora fpc.x86_642.2.2-3.fc10fedora fpc-doc.x86_642.2.2-3.fc10fedora fpc-src.x86_642.2.2-3.fc10fedora geronimo-specs.x86_64 1.0-2.M2.fc10 fedora geronimo-specs-compat.x86_64 1.0-2.M2.fc10 fedora htmlparser.noarch 1.6-3.fc10 fedora htmlparser-javadoc.noarch 1.6-3.fc10 fedora klear.x86_64 0.7.0-2.svn113.fc10 fedora labrea.x86_64 2.5.1-2.fc10fedora libtar.i386 1.2.11-11.fc10 fedora libtar-devel.i386 1.2.11-11.fc10 fedora libtar-devel.x86_64 1.2.11-11.fc10 fedora msv-demo.x86_64 1:1.2-0.2.20050722.3.4.fc10 fedora msv-manual.x86_64 1:1.2-0.2.20050722.3.4.fc10 fedora msv-msv.x86_641:1.2-0.2.20050722.3.4.fc10 fedora msv-msv-javadoc.x86_641:1.2-0.2.20050722.3.4.fc10 fedora msv-relames.x86_641:1.2-0.2.20050722.3.4.fc10 fedora msv-relames-javadoc.x86_641:1.2-0.2.20050722.3.4.fc10 fedora msv-rngconv.x86_641:1.2-0.2.20050722.3.4.fc10 fedora msv-xmlgen.x86_64 1:1.2-0.2.20050722.3.4.fc10 fedora msv-xmlgen-javadoc.x86_64 1:1.2-0.2.20050722.3.4.fc10 fedora msv-xsdlib.x86_64 1:1.2-0.2.20050722.3.4.fc10 fedora msv-xsdlib-javadoc.x86_64 1:1.2-0.2.20050722.3.4.fc10 fedora orpie.x86_64 1.5.1-4.fc10fedora raine.i3860.50.11-4.fc10 rpmfusion-nonfree streamdvd.x86_64 0.4-8.fc10 rpmfusion-free streamdvd-gui.x86_64 0.4-8.fc10 rpmfusion-free streamdvd-streamanalyze.x86_640.4-8.fc10 rpmfusion-free subtitleripper.x86_64 0.3-6.fc10 rpmfusion-free tagsoup.x86_641.0.1-2.2.fc10 fedora tagsoup-javadoc.x86_641.0.1-2.2.fc10 fedora -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Questions with rsync
On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 19:22 -0700, gmspro wrote: > --- On Sat, 6/6/09, Mail Lists wrote: > > > From: Mail Lists > > Subject: Re: Questions with rsync > > To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." > > > > Cc: "GMS S" > > Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 6:18 AM > > On 06/04/2009 06:28 AM, Steven Stern > > wrote: > > > On 06/04/2009 12:53 AM, GMS S wrote: > > >> mv backup.8 backup.9 > > >> mv backup.7 backup.8 > > >> mv backup.6 backup.7 > > > > > > Have you tried rdiff-backup ? It will do all this > > for you ... and its > > as easy to use as rsync alone. > > Do rsync and rdiff-backup have the option of compression. > I think they just copy the files. > Is it possible to backup 20GB partition into 8GB or below 8GB using rsync or > rdiff-backup? Why don't you try reading the manual? Most of the questions you're asking here are clearly documented if you only take the trouble to check. Sure, some stuff is not adequately documented and some docs may even have errors, but asking if rsync does compression is so basic that I have to wonder if you're making even a minimal effort to find things out for yourself before blasting off another question and expecting someone else to do the work for you. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updates
2009/6/14 Sharpe, Sam J : > 2009/6/14 Rahul Sundaram : >> On 06/14/2009 11:35 PM, Martín Marqués wrote: >>> 2009/6/14 Rahul Sundaram # yum list installed | grep fc10 remove them manually if needed >>> >>> Carefull. Rahul said "if needed". Some packages in F11 are named fc10, >>> asw they are packages that haven't changed and so version name hasn't >>> changed as well. >>> >>> Just so you don't end up removeing packages like unique or libdhcp4client.. >> >> The former has a Fedora 11 version. The latter is obsolete. > > Where is the F11 version of unique - I don't see it... To answer my own question, if you've pre-upgraded from a recent F10 to F11, you will still have the fc10 version of unique as it's a higher version (1.2-8) than the version shipped with F11 (1.2-7). I guess as versions move on, that will sort itself out. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updates
On 06/14/2009 11:51 PM, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: > Where is the F11 version of unique - I don't see it... # rpm -q unique unique-1.0.4-4.fc11.i586 > Also, what about these? > > [...@samlap ~]$ sudo yum list | grep fc10 I don't have time to check on every one of them for you but look up in http://koji.fedoraproject.org for official packages if you are not sure. Check your repo list and mirror settings as well. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updates
2009/6/14 Rahul Sundaram : > On 06/14/2009 11:51 PM, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: > >> Where is the F11 version of unique - I don't see it... > > # rpm -q unique > unique-1.0.4-4.fc11.i586 > >> Also, what about these? >> >> [...@samlap ~]$ sudo yum list | grep fc10 > > I don't have time to check on every one of them for you but look up in > http://koji.fedoraproject.org for official packages if you are not sure. > Check your repo list and mirror settings as well. I checked a random few (I'm very confident there is nothing wrong with my settings). http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=55464 Note that the version of all the msv packages is in F11 is 2-0.2.20050722.3.4.fc10 - because it's tagged as in f11-final. This is probably because the build of msv-1.2-0.3.20050722.3.4.fc11 failed according to Koji. The package called "orpie" is in the same state and so is libtar. The list goes on... So, the outcome is that there are genuine packages in F11 that are tagged as fc10 - I can check more cases if you are still not sure. -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updates
On 06/15/2009 12:06 AM, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: > So, the outcome is that there are genuine packages in F11 that are > tagged as fc10 - I can check more cases if you are still not sure. I am sure there are but the examples you gave out earlier weren't valid. That's all. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updates
2009/6/14 Rahul Sundaram : > On 06/15/2009 12:06 AM, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: > >> So, the outcome is that there are genuine packages in F11 that are >> tagged as fc10 - I can check more cases if you are still not sure. > > I am sure there are but the examples you gave out earlier weren't valid. > That's all. You're confused - I came into the conversation late and didn't give any examples - must have been the OP ;o) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Root Access
On 09-06-14 09:50:23, Tom Horsley wrote: >I use the nifty (relatively) new "Match" sshd_config stuff to disable >root login (and any kind of simple password login for that matter) >from IP addresses outside my local network, so I can still ssh as root >easily inside my firewall, but if I'm coming from outside, I need the >proper long passphrase protected public key and can only login >as a normal user. I back up my remote servers using a customized script using rsync, so they all need and have ssh key access to root (PermitRootLogin without- password). As long as I have that set up, I figure that I might as well log in directly as root myself. I do have another layer of defense, using the iptables "recent" module, along with pam_recent to allow for repeated successful logins. I'm open to advice if this is not a good way to do it. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updates
On 06/15/2009 12:09 AM, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: > 2009/6/14 Rahul Sundaram : >> On 06/15/2009 12:06 AM, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: >> >>> So, the outcome is that there are genuine packages in F11 that are >>> tagged as fc10 - I can check more cases if you are still not sure. >> >> I am sure there are but the examples you gave out earlier weren't valid. >> That's all. > > You're confused - I came into the conversation late and didn't give > any examples - must have been the OP ;o) Sorry. Misspoke. The examples given out by Martin wasn't and you questioned whether a Fedora 11 version of unique existed. It does. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updates
2009/6/14 Rahul Sundaram : > On 06/15/2009 12:09 AM, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: >> 2009/6/14 Rahul Sundaram : >>> On 06/15/2009 12:06 AM, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: >>> So, the outcome is that there are genuine packages in F11 that are tagged as fc10 - I can check more cases if you are still not sure. >>> >>> I am sure there are but the examples you gave out earlier weren't valid. >>> That's all. >> >> You're confused - I came into the conversation late and didn't give >> any examples - must have been the OP ;o) > > Sorry. Misspoke. The examples given out by Martin wasn't and you > questioned whether a Fedora 11 version of unique existed. It does. I think the real learning point here is that people who try removing all fc10 packages are going to be in trouble... An F10-F11 preupgrade will leave some (unique, ntp, ntp-perl etc.) where the updated F10 version is higher than F11 and there are some that should genuinely be in F11 because they don't have an equivalent F11 build yet. I just did an automatic --nodeps removal of all my .fc10 packages followed by a yum install of the same packages and I certainly have some still tagged as fc10, but I guess all this will change when Mr Keating fixes all those failed F11 builds in koji against his name ;o) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Funny mailer problem - BAD MSG
Hi, I just upgraded from Fedora 8 -> 9 -> 10. Most everything is working or even improved, except for a puzzling mailer bug. All my incoming mail has the the line: "BAD MSG:" inserted before body of the message. I sent a message to my offsite mail server that looks like this: cut here Return-Path: wal...@omnisterra.com Delivery-Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 11:25:11 -0700 Received: from chi (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by chi.omnisterra.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5EIP9mx028012; Sun, 14 Jun 2009 11:25:10 -0700 Message-Id: <200906141825.n5eip9mx028...@chi.omnisterra.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.2 01/07/2005 with nmh-1.3 To: wal...@omnisterra.com cc: wal...@chi.omnisterra.com Subject: test message Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 11:25:08 -0700 From: Rick Walker test, 1-- 2-- 3-- 4-- 5--- -- Rick cut here and it was correctly delivered to my local machine. However, the mail sent to my server through sendmail, and returning via fetchmail looks like: cut here Return-Path: root Delivery-Date: Sun Jun 14 11:26:49 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: wal...@omnisterra.com Delivery-date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 14:20:48 -0400 Received: from vps.omnisterra.com [xxx.xxx.xxx.247] by chi with IMAP (fetchmail-6.3.8) for (single-drop); Sun, 14 Jun 2009 11:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xxx-xxx-xxx-66.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net ([xxx.xxx.xxx.66] helo=chi.omnisterra.com) by vps.omnisterra.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MFuK0-0006Vm-6h for wal...@omnisterra.com; Sun, 14 Jun 2009 14:20:48 -0400 Received: from chi (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by chi.omnisterra.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5EIP9mx028012; Sun, 14 Jun 2009 11:25:10 -0700 Message-Id: <200906141825.n5eip9mx028...@chi.omnisterra.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.2 01/07/2005 with nmh-1.3 To: wal...@omnisterra.com cc: wal...@chi.omnisterra.com Subject: test message Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 11:25:08 -0700 From: Rick Walker BAD MSG: test, 1-- 2-- 3-- 4-- 5--- -- Rick cut here Who is inserting the "BAD MSG:" string, and why? This is happening to all incoming mail, and started immediately after the upgrade. I'm using sendmail, fetchmail, and running slocal, nmh and exmh for the mail reader and input processing. Here's the relevant /var/log/maillog entry: Jun 14 11:25:10 chi sendmail[28012]: n5EIP9mx028012: from=, size=281, class=0, nrcpts=2, msgid=<200906141825.n5eip9mx028...@chi.omnisterra.com>, proto=E SMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1] Jun 14 11:25:11 chi sendmail[28014]: n5EIP9mx028012: to="| /usr/libexec/nmh/slocal -user walker", ctladdr= (500/500), /delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, maile r=prog, pri=60533, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent Jun 14 11:25:14 chi sendmail[28014]: STARTTLS=client, relay=mail.omnisterra.com., version=TLSv1/SSLv3, verify=FAIL, cipher=AES256-SHA, bits=256/256 Jun 14 11:25:15 chi sendmail[28014]: n5EIP9mx028012: to=, c tladdr= (500/500), delay=00:00:05, xdelay=00:00:04, mailer=relay, pri= 60533, relay=mail.omnisterra.com. [xxx.xxx.xxx.247], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (OK id=1M FuK0-0006Vm-6h) Jun 14 11:26:45 chi sendmail[28039]: n5EIQcIh028039: from=walker, size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, relay=r...@localhost I've googled "BAD MSG:" and have not found any other complaints of this nature. -- Rick Walker -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Repolist Problem
On 14.06.2009 17:19, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 09:49:41 -0500, Bruno wrote: > >> Looking in http://rpm.livna.org/repo I see: > That's not the same than the previous location > ( http://rpm.livna.org/fedora ) which users may have > used as baseurls in their .repo files or in bookmarks. > >> (Also I think there are sym links involved here that you can see with >> rsync, but not http.) > Such symlinks would be useless if Yum could not see them either. ;) Seems they were replaced and now things are hardlinked, which likely is the reason why the file dates are new. > [...] >> The timestamp is from today, so this might be a pretty recent change. > The corresponding livna-release package is from Dec last year. > > When changing file locations so drastically, one should remove > old documentation and any pointers to the old locations in order > to make the new location much easier to find. Well, I guess it's the usual "errors get made and no one noticed". But it seems your suggestions were at least partly heard and realized. Cu knurd -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: "rpm -qa" or "yum list installed" sans version numbers?
Dennis Gilmore Wrote:
> rpm -qa --qf="%{name}\n"
Thank you! :)
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Re: sha256sun
Around 07:20pm on Sunday, June 14, 2009 (UK time), terry scrawled: > Not quite. You want to -c against the small CHECKSUM file, which contains > a list of ISOs and their sha256sums. For example: > $ sha256sum -c Fedora-11-i386-CHECKSUM > > > I don't get it! you want me to match a downloadable checksum text file > to what? how do i get the numbers from the iso file to check against > the checksums? you are not telling me all. you are falsely assuming i > know more than i do.am I not trying to match the checksums with what > the developer says they are to be against what the file contains to > insure that the iso file isn't corrupted and reduce later grief during > install. The CHECKSUM file has both the name of the iso and its expected checksum in it. So the command: $ sha256sum -c Fedora-11-i386-CHECKSUM Causes it to look fat the iso in whose name is in the checksum file, generate a checksum for it and compare that generated checksum against the expected one that is held in the CHECKSUM file. Steve -- Play Champions - my free football predictions game at: http://www.stevesearle.com/champs/about.html 21:01:39 up 36 days, 7:26, 1 user, load average: 0.05, 0.07, 0.08 pgpcUfuHoQPj6.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updates
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 19:36:13 +0100, "Sharpe, Sam J" wrote: > > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=55464 > > Note that the version of all the msv packages is in F11 is > 2-0.2.20050722.3.4.fc10 - because it's tagged as in f11-final. This is > probably because the build of msv-1.2-0.3.20050722.3.4.fc11 failed > according to Koji. The package called "orpie" is in the same state and > so is libtar. The list goes on... > > So, the outcome is that there are genuine packages in F11 that are > tagged as fc10 - I can check more cases if you are still not sure. There were a few things that didn't get rebuilt in the mass rebuild because they didn't build correctly and didn't get fixed yet. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
replys
How does one compose a reply to a message inside digest mode? Point me to instruction or supply instructions, please. thank you -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fresh Fedora 11 fetches 362MB+ of updates, where's deltaRPM?
Fernando Cassia Wrote: [] > :-P Have fun running two copies of the gecko engine to have FF and > Thunderbird open at once... See Rahul's reply. And FWIW, I have 8GB of RAM. :) > I just find Evolution slow and bloated. The fact that it´s part of the > Gnome project means nothing. I agree. It's GNOME's answer to Microsoft Office Outlook. > Other distros based on Gnome have shipped > with different email client as default. I don't doubt it, but I've not seen it in Debian, Fedora, Mandriva, openSUSE or Ubumntu. Now that I think of it, OpenSolaris includes both Evolution and Thunderbird. But again, Fedora prides itself on little deviation from upstream. > Now moving this conversation to a more positive tone, what I´d like to > see: Sorry about my tone. I was having a bad day. My apologies. > > Two simple screens during install letting you choose web browser and > email client, explaining the features of the most popular choices. I think that would ultimately bog things down. It creates bloat in the installation process. What they could do, is what Ubuntu has been doing lately. And that is to include the current stable version of Firefox in the default installation AND offer the beta in the repository. But Ubuntu is "safer" than Fedora. For example, the recent version of Mandriva was released in April with ext4 ad the default filesystem. Ubuntu was released a few weeks later and stuck with 3xt3. Fedora 11 has ext4 by default as well. Ubuntu aims for a combination of ease of use and stability. Fedora is often the first to offer the latest software and technologies (hence my cutting-edge" remark in my previous message).. I for one, am glad Fedora went with the Firefox 3.5 beta. RC1 is supposed to be out next week. Therefore it shouldn't be long before thee final version is released. I find the beta to be very stable right now and it's faster than 3.0.x. [] > You know, to make things easier for newbies escaping the Vista-Win7 world. I'm one of those seemingly rare individuals who dislikes all (current) operating systems equally. Therefore I regularly use both Linux and Windows (I switched from Vista to Win 7 several months ago and I love it). As for Linux, I run several different distros in virtual machines, but Fedora is my primary and is installed on the hard drive. I was a die hard Ubuntu fan for a few years but got tired of Debian/ Ubuntu's lack of x86 support in their X86_64 distros, so I came back to Fedora (my first choice of RPM-based distros). But I digress Scott. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: replys
Around 09:48pm on Sunday, June 14, 2009 (UK time), terry scrawled: > How does one compose a reply to a message inside digest mode? Point me > to instruction or supply instructions, please. You can't re-join it to its original thread, so jsut do the best possible. Change the subject back to the original subject, rather than the generic digest one. Trim all but the messge that you are replying to, and trim any irrelevant parts of that. Steve -- Play Champions - my free football predictions game at: http://www.stevesearle.com/champs/about.html 21:54:02 up 36 days, 8:18, 1 user, load average: 0.04, 0.03, 0.01 pgpTYnaQcbcd2.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
synaptics configuration after upgrade to F11
After upgrading to F11 the Alps touchpad moves the pointer very slowly. For F10 I had to enable SHMConfig, for which I had a config file in /etc/hal/fdi/policy which contained True But this no longer does the trick apparently. Oh, and the pointer moves nice as expected while at the GDM screen, before logging in. Any pointers? Is there an additional config file read after user login that affects the synaptics driver? Thanks, -Mike -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What Happened to Kate?
Kevin Kofler Wrote: > homb...@tips-q.com wrote: >> Kate seems to have disappeared from KDE4. > > Kate is now part of kdesdk. > > Kevin Kofler And it's very annoying. All I want is Kate, I don't want the other apps in kdesdk. It's not that I don't have the space for them. It's just the principle. Scott -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What Happened to Kate?
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> > What does
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> > yum whatprovides /usr/bin/kate >
> > return?
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F10 -> F11: preupdate fails: "Unable to read package metadat"
Hi all, I got an error message after running preupgrade and rebooting: "Unable to read package metadata. This may be due to a missing repodate directory. Please ensure that your install tree has been correctly generated." Anyone know what is going on here? Thanks. - Colin Brace Amsterdam http://lim.nl -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/F10--%3E-F11%3A-preupdate-fails%3A-%22Unable-to-read-package-metadat%22-tp24026008p24026008.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updates
El 14 de junio de 2009 15:06, Rahul Sundaram escribió: > On 06/14/2009 11:35 PM, Martín Marqués wrote: >> 2009/6/14 Rahul Sundaram >>> >>> # yum list installed | grep fc10 >>> >>> remove them manually if needed >> >> Carefull. Rahul said "if needed". Some packages in F11 are named fc10, >> asw they are packages that haven't changed and so version name hasn't >> changed as well. >> >> Just so you don't end up removeing packages like unique or libdhcp4client.. > > The former has a Fedora 11 version. The latter is obsolete. Here I have: # yum list installed | grep fc10 compat-db45.x86_64 4.5.20-5.fc10 installed compat-db46.x86_64 4.6.21-5.fc10 installed cronie.x86_64 1.2-8.fc10 installed libXTrap.x86_641.0.0-6.fc10installed libdhcp4client.x86_64 12:4.0.0-35.fc10installed libtalloc.x86_64 1.2.0-30.fc10 installed libtar.x86_64 1.2.11-11.fc10 installed perl-DBD-SQLite.x86_64 1.23-1.fc10 installed unique.x86_64 1.0.8-1.fc10installed And: # yum list installed | grep fc9 gnome-spell.x86_64 1.0.8-5.fc9 installed libXfontcache.x86_64 1.0.4-5.fc9 installed Ofcourse: # package-cleanup --orphans Setting up yum Loaded plugins: dellsysidplugin2, priorities, refresh-packagekit cronie-1.2-8.fc10.x86_64 gnome-spell-1.0.8-5.fc9.x86_64 libXTrap-1.0.0-6.fc10.x86_64 libXfontcache-1.0.4-5.fc9.x86_64 libdhcp4client-4.0.0-35.fc10.x86_64 libtalloc-1.2.0-30.fc10.x86_64 ntp-4.2.4p7-2.fc11.x86_64 ntp-perl-4.2.4p7-2.fc11.x86_64 ntpdate-4.2.4p7-2.fc11.x86_64 perl-DBD-SQLite-1.23-1.fc10.x86_64 unique-1.0.8-1.fc10.x86_64 So it looks like I could remove some of those. -- Martín Marqués select 'martin.marques' || '@' || 'gmail.com' DBA, Programador, Administrador -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updates
2009/6/14 Sharpe, Sam J : > > To answer my own question, if you've pre-upgraded from a recent F10 to > F11, you will still have the fc10 version of unique as it's a higher > version (1.2-8) than the version shipped with F11 (1.2-7). I guess as > versions move on, that will sort itself out. Can someone explain how something like this happens? I saw the same thing happen with ntp. -- Martín Marqués select 'martin.marques' || '@' || 'gmail.com' DBA, Programador, Administrador -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Webcam "No valid video chain found." issue (0c45:62c0 Microdia Sonix)
Hi, I have installed Fedora 11 on my sisters laptop with this webcam: Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0c45:62c0 Microdia Sonix USB 2.0 Camera Laptop is MSI MS-1221 (PR200): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/MSIPR200 It worked on Ubuntu 8.04 with System76 drivers package, but now on Fedora 11 it doesn't work. I checked your webpage and this usb model is under supported models. This is what I get when I unload and load the uvcvideo module: uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device USB 2.0 Camera (0c45:62c0) uvcvideo: No valid video chain found. usbcore: registered new interface driver uvcvideo USB Video Class driver (v0.1.0) but cheese and mplayer don't see the webcam and there is no /dev/video0 device ;( kernel is: 2.6.29.4-167.fc11.i586 lsusb output: Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0c45:62c0 Microdia Sonix USB 2.0 Camera here is lsusb -v output: http://fpaste.org/paste/15184 Is there some caveat that I'm missing? Can I provide you with some more feedback? How can I get this webcam working? I have reported this as a bug but I hope somebody here knows also some tricks, if you do please help. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=505948 Cheers! -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Updates
2009/6/14 Martín Marqués : > 2009/6/14 Sharpe, Sam J : >> >> To answer my own question, if you've pre-upgraded from a recent F10 to >> F11, you will still have the fc10 version of unique as it's a higher >> version (1.2-8) than the version shipped with F11 (1.2-7). I guess as >> versions move on, that will sort itself out. > > Can someone explain how something like this happens? > > I saw the same thing happen with ntp. Yes. You freeze Rawhide as you are about to release Fedora n+1, at the point you freeze, applications are roughly at the same version levels as those in Fedora n. You make some updates to Fedora n in response to bugs or security issues, but you don't want to prejudice your Fedora n+1 testing cycle, so you queue the same updates for *after* Fedora n+1 releases. Someone then runs pre-upgrade from Fedora n to Fedora n+1, at which point any package in Fedora n which is newer than the package of the same name in Fedora n+1 is not replaced - so you end up with a small number of packages from "Fedora n - Updates" in your Fedora n+1 install. I'm pretty sure I explained this better before, but I've made it generic so the same explanation will apply for a F10-11 preupgrade as an F11-12 preupgrade ;o) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Possible Fedora 11 Intel Video Driver issue.
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Jason Dickerson wrote: > I have an IBM Thinkpad X30 that I upgraded from FC10 to FC11. It has an > Intel i830 Integrated Graphics Chipset. Everything worked fine on FC10 with > XAA acceleration and DRI. After the upgrade, I am getting UXA Acceleration > with DRI2, but there is font corruption, etc... Also, when I attempt to > play videos via Xine, VLC, Mplayer, or Gnome Mplayer; X crashes with no > error. After a great deal of trial and error, I found that if I change the > Driver for VLC, Mplayer, and Gnome Mplayer from xv to opengl; I can play the > video. However it is choppy and the video cannot be resized from its > original size. Xine however crashes, even when I set the video driver on > command line. > > My questions are: > > 1. Is there anyone out there with the Intel i830 chipset, maybe even a > Thinkpad X30, that can confirm this behavior? I know this is a laptop, but > the Intel video problem seems better suited to this larger audience, and > Intel video driver issues are not limited to laptops. I could be wrong > though... > 2. It is hard for me to know if there is already a bug for this, given the > myriad of Intel video bugs that are currently open for FC11. I would be > happy to open one, and include whatever info would be of help. I am not > sure if there is a way to turn on enhanced X11 logging, or if there is any > other logs besides Xorg.#.log. > 3. Does anyone know of any beta kernels and/or Intel video drivers I can > try? > 4. Before I go through the effort, is it worth trying a clean install? I > can't imagine how a clean install would help this, as the xorg.conf is > generated automatically on each start of X11, but maybe someone knows a > rational explanation. > > Any and all suggestions welcome. ;) Hi, same problem here on HP NX5000 laptop (F11.i386). In fact, it is even worse. X11 always crashed when even I played any thing, ie mpeg, avi on mplayer movie player or gnome-player. could you kindly share your xorg.conf? Best > > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: replys
On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 21:55 +0100, Steve Searle wrote: > Around 09:48pm on Sunday, June 14, 2009 (UK time), terry scrawled: > > > How does one compose a reply to a message inside digest mode? Point me > > to instruction or supply instructions, please. > > You can't re-join it to its original thread, so jsut do the best > possible. > > Change the subject back to the original subject, rather than the generic > digest one. Trim all but the messge that you are replying to, and trim > any irrelevant parts of that. If you get your digests in MIME format (see your subscription options at http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list), most mail clients will show the messages as independent items that you can reply to. That's what I've done here. > > Steve > -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F11 multi-touch trackpad--two versus three finger tap
Hi all, I recently installed F11 over F10 on my Eee PC 1000HE (dual-booting with Windows). The trackpad supports multi-touch including tapping with two and three fingers. In F10, tapping with two fingers was a middle-button click and three was a right button tap. In F11, the meanings of the taps are reversed (two for right, three for middle). Is there any way to change the mappings of the tap gestures? I have gotten used to the previous mapping, which is also the way XP maps them. I cannot find anything in System->Preferences->Mouse. Thanks! Jonathan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Possible Fedora 11 Intel Video Driver issue.
You could try to start with the kernel-parameter "nomodeset", and use EXA or XAA. >From what I've seen UXA is always used when kms is active, no matter what is set in xorg. - Clemens PS: I guess the intel-driver guys would be happy about a bug report (although it won't change anything). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Questions with rsync
On 06/14/2009 02:19 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Why don't you try reading the manual? Most of the questions you're > asking here are clearly documented if you only take the trouble to > check. Sure, some stuff is not adequately documented and some docs may > even have errors, but asking if rsync does compression is so basic that > I have to wonder if you're making even a minimal effort to find things > out for yourself before blasting off another question and expecting > someone else to do the work for you. > > poc > It is clear to me that answering anything at all for that individual is a total waste. Save your energy where it will count. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Funny mailer problem - BAD MSG
On 06/14/2009 02:51 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > BAD MSG: Could it be your .procmailrc or some anti-spam filter gone awry ? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Can't install F11 as F10 KVM guest
I cannot install Fedora 11 on my home system. The rewritten anaconda storage code is bombing out with mysterious errors about file descriptors and select. I thought that I could install it as a KVM guest and then "V2P" it, but I have failed in my attempts to install Fedora 11 as a KVM guest on Fedora 10. Has anyone succeeded in doing this? If so, how? Thanks! -- Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
