Re: transmission 1.71 not allowing incoming connections?

2009-06-20 Thread Partha
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 02:17:37AM -0400, Andre Robatino wrote:
> I'm not getting any incoming connections after the latest batch of
> updates including transmission 1.71, even though transmission itself
> says the port I'm using is open.  The bittorrent-gui client does get
> incoming connections using the same port.  Anyone else seeing this?
> 

many information lacking !

1> what is your network setup ? 

2> have you port forwarded ?

3>post your iptables configuration and the port used by transmission.

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reinstall of fc10.

2009-06-20 Thread Reg Clemens
I am in the process of doing a reinstall of fc10, and Ive come across a problem
that I know I solved when I first did the install 6mo ago.

First, I use twm and xterm, not the current stuff.
This may be a bug that the children have 'installed' while playing with this 
stuff.

But:
When I login (I use inittab '3'), I first get a message saying that it cant 
find
my home directory, and that it is going to log me into root, viz something like
Cant find /home/reg
Logging you into '/'

and then it proceeds with the stuff in my home directory as if nothing is 
wrong.

Anyone else see this problem?
Do you remember the solution (I dont)
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[ OK, its more of an irritant than a problem, but I would like it to go away ]

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Re: Yum not working after upgrade

2009-06-20 Thread Colin Paul Adams
> "Frank" == Frank Murphy  writes:

Frank> On 20/06/09 19:51, Colin Paul Adams wrote:
>> 
> Anyone got any other ideas, before I abandon the upgrade attempt and
>> try a fresh install?
Frank> try yum clean all

Frank> the try again with yum --skip-broken update

That worked nicely.

Thank-you very much.
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Re: F11 Trash Not Emptying

2009-06-20 Thread David
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Beartooth TpBkR wrote:
>
>        Sometimes it tells me that certain things can't be removed (Error
> removing file: Permission denied) -- even though their owner is my userid
> -- and sometimes it just does nothing.
>
>        Ir I right click on one of the items in the trash, then on
> Properties, then on Permissions, it tells me I own it; but if I try to
> change group folder access, it says 'Sorry, could not change the
> permissions of "192.168.1.100": Operation not supported by backend.'
>
>        This happened once before, with F10 iirc, and that time I managed
> to get to the trash as root and deleted the stuff; but alas!, I can
> neither recall nor reconstruct how I did it. As root at /home/btth, if I
> do ls|grep Trash, I get no hits. Similarly at /home/btth/Desktop.

If I remember correctly, in the past I've succesfully dealt with a
similar-sounding situation on F9, by using chown or chmod on the file
tree under
~/.local/share/Trash/files

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Missing icons

2009-06-20 Thread Braden McDaniel
Several packages I've installed subsequent to the initial Fedora 11
install aren't having their icons displayed (in the menu and on
launchers).  But this isn't the case with *all* packages I've installed;
just some.  The problem children: epiphany, emacs, empathy, vinagre, and
xchat-gnome.  Also, the processor icons for gnome-sensors-applet appear
to be missing (I get the default black square).  I've looked, and there
do appear to be some icons for these apps under /usr/share/icons.

Does anyone see a pattern here that might suggest what the problem is?
This is the third box I've installed F11 on, and the only place I'm
observing this problem.

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Re: Getting Puppetd To Work

2009-06-20 Thread Dave
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Robert L Cochran wrote:
>
> How to fix the problems (which also involve Selinux)? I'm running in
> permissive mode.

If you really are in permissive mode, selinux is just logging things
it sees as problems, not actually blocking anything.

That bit about 'failure in name resolution' is interesting - could be
a DNS problem? Sorry, I should stop guessing, I know nothing about
puppet.

Dave

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Re: (no subject)

2009-06-20 Thread Armin Moradi
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 7:05 PM,  wrote:

>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:42:14 -0400
> From: Mail Lists 
> Subject: Re: Baffled by a Cable Modem
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using
>Fedora." 
> Message-ID: <4a3cf546.6030...@sapience.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On 06/20/2009 10:38 AM, Jim wrote:
>
> >> What your forgetting is the mac# from a previous device, Computer ,etc,
> >> some cable modems will retain that mac # and not connect to any new
> >> devices until you clear the old one.
> >>
>
> > I thought he had connectivity - just not to all hosts - so this sounds
> >like a red herring.
>
> I have been trying to follow this line of trouble shooting, but it think it
> is above my pay grade.
> But I think you are right about the red-herring. I can ping any one I have
> tried. I think that means my DHCP and DNS are OK.
>
> >Could it be DNS problem?  ... firefox caches dns ... so some cached
> >hosts may work
> That looks promising. If firefox is cacheing a bad dns, then maybe
> everything else would work OK except firefox. Maybe, if it cached a google
> dns, it would work with the google stuff, which it does, but not other
> sites.
> However, I also tried dillo, with the same unable to load result.
> I had an idea of how to check this. I booted the problem computer with fc9
> Live-CD. (I think that gives me all clean configuration files) and I had the
> same problem and gmail still worked.
>
> I have connected the ethernet cable out of the modem to my old computer (
> fc8). I tried to boot, which went OK, except the modem wasn't found. I then
>  powered down the modem and the computer, then powered them both up and
> booted.
> It seems to work fine. (Maybe this computer works on saturdays)
> To me, it acts like hardware. Next I think I will try putting in an old NIC
> that I have and see what happens.
>
>
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Could someone put a sane subject on this please?  (no subject) doesn't make
any sense.

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Re: F11 fix for sound on Intel HDA machines ?

2009-06-20 Thread Gerhard Magnus
On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 18:05 -0700, Craig White wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 17:59 -0700, stan wrote:
> > On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 09:50:35 +1000
> > Danny Yee  wrote:
> > 
> > > stan wrote:
> > > > Your drivers are at 1.0.18, and as someone else said there was a
> > > > lot of work done on hda-intel from 1.0.18 to 1.0.20.  You need to
> > > > update the driver package as described earlier in the thread.
> > >  
> > > Thanks for your help!
> > > 
> > > I pulled the 1.0.20 alsa RPMs out of testing and rebooted.  That
> > > didn't help immediately, but once I removed pulseaudio everything
> > > seems to be working (Mozart's Clarinet Concerto is playing as I type).
> > 
> > Whatever works!  Though I can't make a plausible connection of how
> > those two facts lead to sound for you.  :-)
> 
> sure - pavucontrol probably needed to increase the output volume.

This may be slightly off the topic...
...but I did Applications -> Sound and Video --> PulseAudio Volume
Control -> Input Devices... and there was my USB PnP Audio Device, and
when I clapped my hands its horizontal bar meter responded in a way
indicating the volume of the sound I had made. This was the first time I
had interacted with PulseAudio in a meaningful way. PulseAudio -- who
would have thought it possible!

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Re: F11 Liveuser Password

2009-06-20 Thread David
On 6/20/2009 10:10 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote:
> David wrote:
> 
> On 6/19/2009 4:16 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote:
>> > "Kevin J. Cummings" wrote
>> >
>>> >> R. G. Newbury wrote:
 >> > OK, Now I'm really frustrated.
 >> > What IS the password for the 'liveuser' user?
>>> >>Password?  When the GDM screen comes up, it auto-logins after a
> short wait (less than a minute ISTR).  When inside the environment, I
>>> >> can type "su -" and I'm not asked for a password
>> >
>> > This is the LiveCD-KDE spin. When the login screen comes up it is
>> > exactly like a normal KDE login. It NEVER auto-logs.
>> > And NO password works.
>> > Of course, there is NOTHING in the release notes.
>> > Thanks guys  
>> >
>> > But I repeat myself. This is another example of stupid nanny actions.
>> > The damn thing is a LIVECD. It does not NEED a password for the
> user: it
>> > creates the user. Kabuki security revisited ( the prior visitation
>> > being that root is denied access to install programs through the
>> > browser, although a normal user (acting as an abnormal user) is
>> > allowed to do the same thing.)
> 
>> *You are right!!* We should rant! And rave! And get *really, really
>> angry!* Quick! Give me the microphone! So that I can yell the *loud,
>> funny words!*
> 
>> No one else has downloaded this and booted this? No one else has
>> complained? In this much time? Really?
> 
>> The Live-CD KDE boots with out a login screen of any kind here. None
>> at all. It boot right to the KDE desktop.
> 
>> Having a bad day are you?  :-)
> 
> Damn straight I was. And yes, I AM right.  But no ranting required, no
> anger, no microphone or bullhorn demanded. You can yell loud funny words
> if you want.
> 
> But how weird is that YOU get something different? That's a bit of a
> stupidity all on its own. YOU didn't need a passwordso why did I? I
> would now assume that it was not intentional...but it shouldn't be
> *possible*. No wonder I was frustrated: there WAS no password which
> would work!!
> 
> I downloaded the Gnome livecd image and used that insteadAnd yes, it
>  auto-logs and goes to the desktop.
> 
> Geoff


Chill out friend.

Seriously now? All my attempts at humor set aside?  :-)

You had said the you downloaded and 'ran' (whatever) the KDE Live-CD. I
did that this time, I had not done it before, and it did not ask me for
a password. I had already tried the GNOME Live-CD and it did/not do the
same.

I really have no idea why you had your problem. I was just trying to
lighten the problem.

Life is too short to get so upset about such little things. Trust me.
You will live longer.

So I gather that you have solved this problem then? Or not?

Points of interest for you.

If / When you have a problem.. ask for help with clear examples. And
answer questions as best as you can. Asking for clarification of their
questions so that you can answer better.

Rants and screams tend to turn people off and turn people away. Most
especially those that know the most and have the answers to your questions.

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Re: cups doesn't get the right ppd file

2009-06-20 Thread Craig White
On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 00:03 -0300, Martín Marqués wrote:
> 2009/6/20 Tom Horsley 
> >
> > On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:49:06 -0300
> > Martín Marqués wrote:
> >
> > > Now, the driver is the correct one, but for some reason cuips is
> > > getting the kyocera driver. Why is this happening?
> >
> > I think those are just messages from cups scanning directories
> > for ppd files and discovering readme files mixed in. The real
> > question is what does /etc/cups/ppd/ have in it for the printer,
> > that's the one it actually selected.
> 
> Updated cups to the version in updates-testing and now I don't get
> does messages, but neither do I get anything printed.
> 
> How can I get my printer working again?

I think you probably have to use either system-config-printer or the
cups web interface (http://localhost:631) and if the one you choose
cannot print a test page, delete the printer and set the printer up
again. If you want to ask the list, you probably should post the
contents of /etc/cups/printers.conf and maybe the output of 'tail -n
12 /var/log/cups/error_log'

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Re: F11 Liveuser Password

2009-06-20 Thread David
On 6/20/2009 10:10 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote:
> David wrote:
> 
> On 6/19/2009 4:16 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote:
>> > "Kevin J. Cummings" wrote
>> >
>>> >> R. G. Newbury wrote:
 >> > OK, Now I'm really frustrated.
 >> > What IS the password for the 'liveuser' user?
>>> >>Password?  When the GDM screen comes up, it auto-logins after a
> short wait (less than a minute ISTR).  When inside the environment, I
>>> >> can type "su -" and I'm not asked for a password
>> >
>> > This is the LiveCD-KDE spin. When the login screen comes up it is
>> > exactly like a normal KDE login. It NEVER auto-logs.
>> > And NO password works.
>> > Of course, there is NOTHING in the release notes.
>> > Thanks guys  
>> >
>> > But I repeat myself. This is another example of stupid nanny actions.
>> > The damn thing is a LIVECD. It does not NEED a password for the
> user: it
>> > creates the user. Kabuki security revisited ( the prior visitation
>> > being that root is denied access to install programs through the
>> > browser, although a normal user (acting as an abnormal user) is
>> > allowed to do the same thing.)
> 
>> *You are right!!* We should rant! And rave! And get *really, really
>> angry!* Quick! Give me the microphone! So that I can yell the *loud,
>> funny words!*
> 
>> No one else has downloaded this and booted this? No one else has
>> complained? In this much time? Really?
> 
>> The Live-CD KDE boots with out a login screen of any kind here. None
>> at all. It boot right to the KDE desktop.
> 
>> Having a bad day are you?  :-)
> 
> Damn straight I was. And yes, I AM right.  But no ranting required, no
> anger, no microphone or bullhorn demanded. You can yell loud funny words
> if you want.
> 
> But how weird is that YOU get something different? That's a bit of a
> stupidity all on its own. YOU didn't need a passwordso why did I? I
> would now assume that it was not intentional...but it shouldn't be
> *possible*. No wonder I was frustrated: there WAS no password which
> would work!!
> 
> I downloaded the Gnome livecd image and used that insteadAnd yes, it
>  auto-logs and goes to the desktop.
> 
> Geoff


Chill out friend.

Seriously now? All my attempts at humor set aside?  :-)

You had said the you downloaded and 'ran' (whatever) the KDE Live-CD. I
did that this time, I had not done it before, and it did not ask me for
a password. I did it just before I posted so that I might see your
problem. The Live-CD Kde for Fedora 11 did *not* ask *me* for a password
at any time.

I had already tried the GNOME Live-CD and it did/not do the
same.

I really have no idea why you had your problem.

Life is too short to get so upset about such little things friend. Trust
me. Lighten up and you will live longer.

So I gather then that you have solved this problem then? Or not?

Points of interest for you to note.

If / When you have a problem.. ask for help with clear examples. And
answer questions as best as you can. Asking for clarification of their
questions so that you can answer better.

Rants and screams tend to turn people off and turn people away. Most
especially those that know the most and have the answers to your
questions. They do not care to, not have to, deal with rants and raves.

Think.   Flies.   Honey.   Vinegar.

Have a great day? Or evening.
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Re: F11 firefox with proxy still sends host name lookups

2009-06-20 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:33:00 -0700,
  Patrick Mansfield  wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 05:06:56PM -0700, Patrick Mansfield wrote:
> > Hi -
> > 
> > With a proxy enabled in firefox for all procotols, I still see domain name
> > queries on my system while (only) browsing. This did not happen with
> > Fedora 9 and firefox (not sure what version of firefox is in F9).
> 
> This must be the firefox DNS prefetching, there is this firefox bug:
> 
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=488162
> 
> But, I don't have a network.dns.disablePrefetch in about:config, nor
> anything similar!

You can add a new boolean variable with this name. Whether or not it will
have any affect in versions of firefox shipped in Fedora is another question.

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Re: Getting Puppetd To Work

2009-06-20 Thread Todd Zullinger
Robert L Cochran wrote:
> How do I rename my server to be "puppet" as you suggest?

If you have local DNS setup, you can add puppet as a CNAME for your
server.  If not, you could add it to /etc/hosts.  I've always done the
former.

> How do I recreate the puppetmaster certificates?

I think just removing /var/lib/puppet/ssl is the simplest way.  (Move
it elsewhere if you want to safe.)  Do this on both the client and the
server, if they are different.  When you start the puppetmaster again
it will create new certificates.

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Re: cups doesn't get the right ppd file

2009-06-20 Thread Martín Marqués
2009/6/20 Tom Horsley 
>
> On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:49:06 -0300
> Martín Marqués wrote:
>
> > Now, the driver is the correct one, but for some reason cuips is
> > getting the kyocera driver. Why is this happening?
>
> I think those are just messages from cups scanning directories
> for ppd files and discovering readme files mixed in. The real
> question is what does /etc/cups/ppd/ have in it for the printer,
> that's the one it actually selected.

Updated cups to the version in updates-testing and now I don't get
does messages, but neither do I get anything printed.

How can I get my printer working again?

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Re: Getting Puppetd To Work

2009-06-20 Thread Robert L Cochran


On 06/20/2009 10:07 PM, Todd Zullinger wrote:

Robert L Cochran wrote:
   

I'm getting messages like this in /var/log/messages when I run
puppetd (from the puppet client I think...the server is called
'puppetmaster'.)

Jun 20 19:16:00 deafeng3 puppetd[2556]: Could not find server :
getaddrinfo: Temporary failure in name resolution
Jun 20 19:16:00 deafeng3 puppetd[2556]: Could not retrieve catalog:
Could not find server puppet
 


By default, puppet will look for a server named 'puppet'.  If your
puppetmaster (aka puppet server) is named 'puppetmaster', you'd have
to change the puppet configuration to make it look for 'puppetmaster'.

I'd probably rename my puppetmaster instead of changing the puppet
confif, at least until you get a bit more familiar with puppet.
Though you do need to take care to re-create the puppetmaster
certificates if you rename the puppetmaster.

   

How do I rename my server to be "puppet" as you suggest?

How do I recreate the puppetmaster certificates?

The Selinux ifconfig denials I mentioned earlier always seem to start 
when puppet starts. And yes, I'm hoping to get puppet running on Fedora 11.



Thanks

Bob

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Re: Slide show maker for F11 ?

2009-06-20 Thread Kevin J. Cummings

Linuxguy123 wrote:

I need to make a slide show for a wedding.  I am running F11.  What are
my options ?


Uh,

fspot
OpenOffice.Org Impress
eog
various screen savers
a whole bunch of stuff in:
Applications -> Graphics

probably lots more


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Re: F11 Liveuser Password

2009-06-20 Thread R. G. Newbury

Dave wrote:
> >
> > *You are right!!* We should rant! And rave! And get *really, really
> > angry!* Quick! Give me the microphone! So that I can yell the *loud,
> > funny words!*
> >
> > No one else has downloaded this and booted this? No one else has
> > complained? In this much time? Really?
> >
> > The Live-CD KDE boots with out a login screen of any kind here. None at
> > all. It boot right to the KDE desktop.
> >
> > Having a bad day are you?   :-)
> >
> > --
>On my desktop, I had this problem with F10, trying to get to rescue the
>system; F11 loaded straight away on my laptop. The difference appears >to
>have been that the /tmp on my desktop had no space... My
>imagination??

I find it hard to believe that a LiveCD would have a problem because 
/tmp on the harddrive was full (although it IS possible that the live 
instance DOES use /tmp...not sure). But in my case, I had attempted to 
install F11, but it barfed during package selection. Rescue-is-possible 
showed me that Ananconda had indeed formatted the partitions...so /tmp 
was definitely empty in my case. And the LiveKDE disk wanted a password, 
 which the LiveGnome disk did not. And I installed from there.


G.


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Re: F11 Liveuser Password

2009-06-20 Thread R. G. Newbury

David wrote:

On 6/19/2009 4:16 PM, R. G. Newbury wrote:
> > "Kevin J. Cummings" wrote
> >
>> >> R. G. Newbury wrote:
>>> >> > OK, Now I'm really frustrated.
>>> >> > What IS the password for the 'liveuser' user?
>> >>Password?  When the GDM screen comes up, it auto-logins after a 
short wait (less than a minute ISTR).  When inside the environment, I

>> >> can type "su -" and I'm not asked for a password
> >
> > This is the LiveCD-KDE spin. When the login screen comes up it is
> > exactly like a normal KDE login. It NEVER auto-logs.
> > And NO password works.
> > Of course, there is NOTHING in the release notes.
> > Thanks guys  
> >
> > But I repeat myself. This is another example of stupid nanny actions.
> > The damn thing is a LIVECD. It does not NEED a password for the 
user: it

> > creates the user. Kabuki security revisited ( the prior visitation
> > being that root is denied access to install programs through the
> > browser, although a normal user (acting as an abnormal user) is
> > allowed to do the same thing.)

> *You are right!!* We should rant! And rave! And get *really, really
> angry!* Quick! Give me the microphone! So that I can yell the *loud,
> funny words!*

> No one else has downloaded this and booted this? No one else has
> complained? In this much time? Really?

> The Live-CD KDE boots with out a login screen of any kind here. None
> at all. It boot right to the KDE desktop.

> Having a bad day are you?  :-)

Damn straight I was. And yes, I AM right.  But no ranting required, no 
anger, no microphone or bullhorn demanded. You can yell loud funny words 
if you want.


But how weird is that YOU get something different? That's a bit of a 
stupidity all on its own. YOU didn't need a passwordso why did I? I 
would now assume that it was not intentional...but it shouldn't be 
*possible*. No wonder I was frustrated: there WAS no password which 
would work!!


I downloaded the Gnome livecd image and used that insteadAnd yes, it 
 auto-logs and goes to the desktop.


Geoff

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a mystery wrapped in an enigma running in a VNC session :-).

2009-06-20 Thread Tom Horsley
I had previously noticed that when I ran emacs in a vnc server
on my home system, the Alt key seemed to disappear.

While racking my brains to figure out what to look for,
I happened to notice that if I started emacs by hand in
a terminal, the Alt key worked fine as a prefix, so
I started binary searching through various scripts, and
finally discovered this completely inexplicable tid-bit:

I have this little script that starts emacs with a different
title if it is running as root:

#!/bin/sh
if [ `whoami` = "root" ]
then
   exec emacs --title='ROOT em...@zooty ROOT'
else
   exec emacs
fi

That script works fine in the normal X server, but when
the X server is vnc, the emacs that starts up cannot use
the Alt prefix key.

If I change /bin/sh on the first line to /bin/bash, then
the Alt key works perfectly!

Can anyone imagine any hypothesis for why execing
emacs from /bin/sh would act different than execing it
from /bin/bash, but only when in a vnc session?

This has gotta be the 2nd most mysterious thing I've
ever seen a computer do :-).

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Re: Getting Puppetd To Work

2009-06-20 Thread Todd Zullinger
Robert L Cochran wrote:
> I'm getting messages like this in /var/log/messages when I run
> puppetd (from the puppet client I think...the server is called
> 'puppetmaster'.)
>
> Jun 20 19:16:00 deafeng3 puppetd[2556]: Could not find server :
> getaddrinfo: Temporary failure in name resolution
> Jun 20 19:16:00 deafeng3 puppetd[2556]: Could not retrieve catalog:
> Could not find server puppet

By default, puppet will look for a server named 'puppet'.  If your
puppetmaster (aka puppet server) is named 'puppetmaster', you'd have
to change the puppet configuration to make it look for 'puppetmaster'.

I'd probably rename my puppetmaster instead of changing the puppet
confif, at least until you get a bit more familiar with puppet.
Though you do need to take care to re-create the puppetmaster
certificates if you rename the puppetmaster.

> Jun 20 19:16:01 deafeng3 setroubleshoot: SELinux is preventing
> ifconfig (ifconfig_t) "read" security_t. For complete SELinux
> messages. run sealert -l 4844399e-6861-497f-b883-5d9cbe05fa79
> Jun 20 19:16:01 deafeng3 setroubleshoot: SELinux is preventing
> ifconfig (ifconfig_t) "read" security_t. For complete SELinux
> messages. run sealert -l 4844399e-6861-497f-b883-5d9cbe05fa79
> Jun 20 19:46:01 deafeng3 puppetd[2556]: Could not find server :
> getaddrinfo: Temporary failure in name resolution
> Jun 20 19:46:01 deafeng3 puppetd[2556]: Could not retrieve catalog:
> Could not find server puppet
> Jun 20 20:16:02 deafeng3 puppetd[2556]: Could not find server :
> getaddrinfo: Temporary failure in name resolution
> Jun 20 20:16:02 deafeng3 puppetd[2556]: Could not retrieve catalog:
> Could not find server puppet
> Jun 20 20:16:03 deafeng3 setroubleshoot: SELinux is preventing
> ifconfig (ifconfig_t) "read" security_t. For complete SELinux
> messages. run sealert -l 4844399e-6861-497f-b883-5d9cbe05fa79
> Jun 20 20:16:03 deafeng3 setroubleshoot: SELinux is preventing
> ifconfig (ifconfig_t) "read" security_t. For complete SELinux
> messages. run sealert -l 4844399e-6861-497f-b883-5d9cbe05fa79
> Jun 20 20:46:03 deafeng3 puppetd[2556]: Could not find server :
> getaddrinfo: Temporary failure in name resolution
> Jun 20 20:46:03 deafeng3 puppetd[2556]: Could not retrieve catalog:
> Could not find server puppet
> Jun 20 21:16:04 deafeng3 puppetd[2556]: Could not find server :
> getaddrinfo: Temporary failure in name resolution
> Jun 20 21:16:04 deafeng3 puppetd[2556]: Could not retrieve catalog:
> Could not find server puppet
>
>
> How to fix the problems (which also involve Selinux)? I'm running in
> permissive mode.

I've not seen those errors on my F-10 puppet installs.  I haven't
setup any F-11 puppet installs just yet.  I do think I saw a post on
the fedora-selinux-list about ifconfig denials, maybe there's a more
general problem there?

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Getting Puppetd To Work

2009-06-20 Thread Robert L Cochran
I'm getting messages like this in /var/log/messages when I run puppetd 
(from the puppet client I think...the server is called 'puppetmaster'.)


Jun 20 19:16:00 deafeng3 puppetd[2556]: Could not find server : 
getaddrinfo: Temporary failure in name resolution
Jun 20 19:16:00 deafeng3 puppetd[2556]: Could not retrieve catalog: 
Could not find server puppet
Jun 20 19:16:01 deafeng3 setroubleshoot: SELinux is preventing ifconfig 
(ifconfig_t) "read" security_t. For complete SELinux messages. run 
sealert -l 4844399e-6861-497f-b883-5d9cbe05fa79
Jun 20 19:16:01 deafeng3 setroubleshoot: SELinux is preventing ifconfig 
(ifconfig_t) "read" security_t. For complete SELinux messages. run 
sealert -l 4844399e-6861-497f-b883-5d9cbe05fa79
Jun 20 19:46:01 deafeng3 puppetd[2556]: Could not find server : 
getaddrinfo: Temporary failure in name resolution
Jun 20 19:46:01 deafeng3 puppetd[2556]: Could not retrieve catalog: 
Could not find server puppet
Jun 20 20:16:02 deafeng3 puppetd[2556]: Could not find server : 
getaddrinfo: Temporary failure in name resolution
Jun 20 20:16:02 deafeng3 puppetd[2556]: Could not retrieve catalog: 
Could not find server puppet
Jun 20 20:16:03 deafeng3 setroubleshoot: SELinux is preventing ifconfig 
(ifconfig_t) "read" security_t. For complete SELinux messages. run 
sealert -l 4844399e-6861-497f-b883-5d9cbe05fa79
Jun 20 20:16:03 deafeng3 setroubleshoot: SELinux is preventing ifconfig 
(ifconfig_t) "read" security_t. For complete SELinux messages. run 
sealert -l 4844399e-6861-497f-b883-5d9cbe05fa79
Jun 20 20:46:03 deafeng3 puppetd[2556]: Could not find server : 
getaddrinfo: Temporary failure in name resolution
Jun 20 20:46:03 deafeng3 puppetd[2556]: Could not retrieve catalog: 
Could not find server puppet
Jun 20 21:16:04 deafeng3 puppetd[2556]: Could not find server : 
getaddrinfo: Temporary failure in name resolution
Jun 20 21:16:04 deafeng3 puppetd[2556]: Could not retrieve catalog: 
Could not find server puppet



How to fix the problems (which also involve Selinux)? I'm running in 
permissive mode.


Thanks

Bob

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Slide show maker for F11 ?

2009-06-20 Thread Linuxguy123
I need to make a slide show for a wedding.  I am running F11.  What are
my options ?

Thanks


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x86_64 install stuck "no driver found"

2009-06-20 Thread B Wooster
Strange - says unable to find driver for this installation type - am
booting off DVD, and it read the DVD, booted, and then says "No driver
found"? Is that referring to some other device and not the CD/DVD
drive?

I also tried the i386 DVD, and that seems to proceed much more ahead,
on same machine.

This is for a GIGABYTE GA-73PVM-S2
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec.aspx?ClassValue=Motherboard&ProductID=2734&ProductName=GA-73PVM-S2
and I understand it needs "forcedeth" for networking, but I tried
selecting that on the "Select Driver" menu, but no luck, continue to
loop around the "No driver found", "Select driver" menus in the
install. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.

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Re: F11 fix for sound on Intel HDA machines ?

2009-06-20 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 17:59 -0700, stan wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 09:50:35 +1000
> Danny Yee  wrote:
> 
> > stan wrote:
> > > Your drivers are at 1.0.18, and as someone else said there was a
> > > lot of work done on hda-intel from 1.0.18 to 1.0.20.  You need to
> > > update the driver package as described earlier in the thread.
> >  
> > Thanks for your help!
> > 
> > I pulled the 1.0.20 alsa RPMs out of testing and rebooted.  That
> > didn't help immediately, but once I removed pulseaudio everything
> > seems to be working (Mozart's Clarinet Concerto is playing as I type).
> 
> Whatever works!  Though I can't make a plausible connection of how
> those two facts lead to sound for you.  :-)

sure - pavucontrol probably needed to increase the output volume.

Craig


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Re: F11 fix for sound on Intel HDA machines ?

2009-06-20 Thread stan
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 09:50:35 +1000
Danny Yee  wrote:

> stan wrote:
> > Your drivers are at 1.0.18, and as someone else said there was a
> > lot of work done on hda-intel from 1.0.18 to 1.0.20.  You need to
> > update the driver package as described earlier in the thread.
>  
> Thanks for your help!
> 
> I pulled the 1.0.20 alsa RPMs out of testing and rebooted.  That
> didn't help immediately, but once I removed pulseaudio everything
> seems to be working (Mozart's Clarinet Concerto is playing as I type).

Whatever works!  Though I can't make a plausible connection of how
those two facts lead to sound for you.  :-)

> 
> > However, the fact that it was working in F10 means that there is
> > probably a model that alsa is able to discover that works for this
> > chip, even though not designed explicitly for it.  And in fact
> > there is mention of the chip in the code in relation to asus-p5q.
> > Perhaps the documentation just hasn't caught up to the code yet.
>  
> Yes, I have an Asus P5Q-VM motherboard.  I didn't think this was that
> new -- must be at least a year old now? -- but I guess if the sound
> chipsets are changing all the time that's a problem.

It's been awhile since I monitored alsa closely, but then ICH9 was the
cutting edge.  Probably ICH12 is now. :-)

> 
> I found this overview of sound in Linux (from Slashdot):
> http://insanecoding.blogspot.com/2009/06/state-of-sound-in-linux-not-so-sorry.html
> so I have a better idea what's happening under the hood now.

Lots of opinions there.  And as you can see from the comments, there
are as many viewpoints about sound in linux as there are users of sound
in linux.  The trouble is that sound is a desktop function, and the
money is all made in servers.  So how likely is it that sound will get
the resources?  ;-)

Given modern hardware and changes in the kernel I don't know that alsa
is the best way to do sound in linux, but it is the most comprehensive
and complete right now, and as it exists in linux serves my purposes,
so I don't worry too much about those deep architectural issues.  

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Re: checksum suggestion

2009-06-20 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 21:00:53 -0400,
  Tom Horsley  wrote:
> There is little doubt that sometime soon some fiendish
> mathematician somewhere will discover that sha256sum
> is really hopelessly broken and only a fool would ever
> have used it, then we'll all have to switch to
> shaalephnullsum or some such :-).

There is already a process going on to create a new hash standard similar
to what was done for AES. The SHA-2 hashes are thought to be weak since
they use a scheme similar to MD5 and SHA1 and those have serious problems
now, but are still usable in most cases. See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHA-3

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Re: F11 fix for sound on Intel HDA machines ?

2009-06-20 Thread Danny Yee
stan wrote:
> Your drivers are at 1.0.18, and as someone else said there was a lot of
> work done on hda-intel from 1.0.18 to 1.0.20.  You need to update the
> driver package as described earlier in the thread.
 
Thanks for your help!

I pulled the 1.0.20 alsa RPMs out of testing and rebooted.  That didn't
help immediately, but once I removed pulseaudio everything seems
to be working (Mozart's Clarinet Concerto is playing as I type).

> However, the fact that it was working in F10 means that there is
> probably a model that alsa is able to discover that works for this
> chip, even though not designed explicitly for it.  And in fact there is
> mention of the chip in the code in relation to asus-p5q.  Perhaps the
> documentation just hasn't caught up to the code yet.
 
Yes, I have an Asus P5Q-VM motherboard.  I didn't think this was that
new -- must be at least a year old now? -- but I guess if the sound
chipsets are changing all the time that's a problem.

I found this overview of sound in Linux (from Slashdot):
http://insanecoding.blogspot.com/2009/06/state-of-sound-in-linux-not-so-sorry.html
so I have a better idea what's happening under the hood now.

> And this really should not exist in asound.conf.  Better that you copy
> it to .asoundrc in your home directory and remove the /etc/asound.conf
> file.  Then the system default will be the alsa default hw:0,0 and you
> will use whatever you set in your .asoundrc when you log in.
 
Ok, that sounds sensible.  I've saved your message for future reference!

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Re: cups doesn't get the right ppd file

2009-06-20 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:49:06 -0300
Martín Marqués wrote:

> Now, the driver is the correct one, but for some reason cuips is
> getting the kyocera driver. Why is this happening?

I think those are just messages from cups scanning directories
for ppd files and discovering readme files mixed in. The real
question is what does /etc/cups/ppd/ have in it for the printer,
that's the one it actually selected.

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cups doesn't get the right ppd file

2009-06-20 Thread Martín Marqués
I have a USB Lexmark E120 laser printer which used to work with F10
and after upgrade to F11 didn't work anymore.

I started investigating what changed, and after some time, I saw this
in the /var/log/cups/error.log file:

E [20/Jun/2009:19:44:46 -0300] [cups-driverd] Bad driver information
file "/usr/share/cups/model/foomatic-db-ppds/Kyocera/ReadMe.htm"!
E [20/Jun/2009:19:44:46 -0300] [cups-driverd] Bad driver information
file "/usr/share/cups/model/foomatic-db-ppds/Kyocera/kyocera_ppd_8.2.txt"!
E [20/Jun/2009:19:44:46 -0300] [cups-driverd] Bad driver information
file "/usr/share/cups/drv/sample.drv"!

Now, the driver is the correct one, but for some reason cuips is
getting the kyocera driver. Why is this happening?

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Re: Client connect to NFS server as user?

2009-06-20 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 18:27 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> Craig White wrote:
> > On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 15:38 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> >   
> >> Craig White wrote:
> >> 
> >>> On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 09:27 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> >>>   
> >>>   
>  How can I connect as user bobg, do I have to be root?
> 
>  [b...@box9 ~]$ mount.nfs box48:/home/NFS-files  /mnt/home
>  mount.nfs: permission denied: no match for /mnt/home found in 
>  /etc/fstab
> 
>  It looks as though I've missed something here ...
>  
>  
> >>> 
> >>> you would have to have an entry in /etc/fstab that specified this as a
> >>> 'user' mount
> >>>
> >>> something like this...
> >>>
> >>> my.nfs.server:/mnt/home  /home/NFS-filesnfs user0 0
> >>>
> >>> but the truth is that using automounts such as /etc/auto.home
> >>> or /auto.misc is even better
> >>>
> >>> Craig
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>>   
> >> Ok, thanks, I just need to know what my options are. Should
> >> have suspected "fstab" and I will look at auto.home and
> >> auto.misc ...
> >>
> >> I'm presently struggling with an Apple Mac, completely
> >> foreign to me! If only I can find a "terminal" with a
> >> command line.
> >> 
> > 
> > Terminal.app
> >
> > /Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app
> >
> > Craig
> >
> >
> >   
> 
> Yes thanks, I googled that. I find nothing intuitive about their GUI.

maybe not but that hardly is a worthwhile discussion here. If you want,
you can install Fedora on that system but a terminal is clearly not a
GUI.

Craig


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Re: this is why I hate changing Fedora versions

2009-06-20 Thread Dave Stevens
On Saturday 20 June 2009 03:16:28 pm stan wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:37:18 -0700
>
> Dave Stevens  wrote:
> > Apart from Ubuntu, does anyone have a suggestion where else I can
> > look to get things working? The system _thinks_ it's working, kplayer
> > chugs through Sweet Home Chicago just as if it was doing something
> > useful, but no tune.
> >
> > Dave
>
> The script below will tell you about the sound configuration of your
> system. If you run with the --noupload option, it will put the
> information on your local system, else it will upload to a website
> and give you a link.  It might show you what is wrong.  And if it
> doesn't, you could post the link here so people can see what your
> system configuration is as well.
>
> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh
>
> Yes, Madame alsa-info will tell you all.  Does your new video card have
> a sound device in it?  Has it displaced your Ensoniq as default
> device?  Do you have a modprobe.conf?  Is it setting your Ensoniq as
> device 0?  If run as root, Madame will show you even deeper secrets
> about your hardware. She sees all, she tells all. Only $20 and your
> first born.

thanks for your suggestions, I'll try Madame. I don't yet have the new video 
card installed, I wanted to start with something that I know works, even if 
it, like me, is showing its age a little.

dave

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Re: Client connect to NFS server as user?

2009-06-20 Thread Bob Goodwin

Craig White wrote:

On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 15:38 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
  

Craig White wrote:


On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 09:27 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
  
  

How can I connect as user bobg, do I have to be root?

[b...@box9 ~]$ mount.nfs box48:/home/NFS-files  /mnt/home
mount.nfs: permission denied: no match for /mnt/home found in /etc/fstab

It looks as though I've missed something here ...




you would have to have an entry in /etc/fstab that specified this as a
'user' mount

something like this...

my.nfs.server:/mnt/home  /home/NFS-filesnfs user0 0

but the truth is that using automounts such as /etc/auto.home
or /auto.misc is even better

Craig


  
  

Ok, thanks, I just need to know what my options are. Should
have suspected "fstab" and I will look at auto.home and
auto.misc ...

I'm presently struggling with an Apple Mac, completely
foreign to me! If only I can find a "terminal" with a
command line.



Terminal.app

/Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app

Craig


  


Yes thanks, I googled that. I find nothing intuitive about their GUI.

Bob


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Re: this is why I hate changing Fedora versions

2009-06-20 Thread stan
On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:37:18 -0700
Dave Stevens  wrote:


> Apart from Ubuntu, does anyone have a suggestion where else I can
> look to get things working? The system _thinks_ it's working, kplayer
> chugs through Sweet Home Chicago just as if it was doing something
> useful, but no tune.
> 
> Dave
> 
 
The script below will tell you about the sound configuration of your
system. If you run with the --noupload option, it will put the
information on your local system, else it will upload to a website
and give you a link.  It might show you what is wrong.  And if it
doesn't, you could post the link here so people can see what your
system configuration is as well.

http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh 

Yes, Madame alsa-info will tell you all.  Does your new video card have
a sound device in it?  Has it displaced your Ensoniq as default
device?  Do you have a modprobe.conf?  Is it setting your Ensoniq as
device 0?  If run as root, Madame will show you even deeper secrets
about your hardware. She sees all, she tells all. Only $20 and your
first born.

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Re: Firefox not reading prefs.js [SOLVED]

2009-06-20 Thread Erik P. Olsen
On 20/06/09 23:49, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> On 20Jun2009 21:34, Erik P. Olsen  wrote:
> | It turned out to be a permission problem with prefs.js. For some reason the
> | ownership had been changed to root:root with mode bits 600. Changing it back
> | to userID:userID and 644 solved the problem. But why it had been changed
> | root ownership is a mystery to me.
> 
> Almost certainly you started firefox as root, probably with $HOME set to
> your own home dir. Do you use the "su" or "sudo" commands much?

No, I always start firefox from a launcher in the panel and I have never set
$HOME to anything. And I never edit prefs.js except from Edit -> Preferences
and few times through about:config.

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2009-06-20 Thread dnvot

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On 06/20/2009 10:38 AM, Jim wrote:

>> What your forgetting is the mac# from a previous device, Computer ,etc,
>> some cable modems will retain that mac # and not connect to any new
>> devices until you clear the old one.
>>

> I thought he had connectivity - just not to all hosts - so this sounds
>like a red herring.

I have been trying to follow this line of trouble shooting, but it think it is 
above my pay grade.
But I think you are right about the red-herring. I can ping any one I have 
tried. I think that means my DHCP and DNS are OK.

>Could it be DNS problem?  ... firefox caches dns ... so some cached
>hosts may work
That looks promising. If firefox is cacheing a bad dns, then maybe everything 
else would work OK except firefox. Maybe, if it cached a google dns, it would 
work with the google stuff, which it does, but not other sites.
However, I also tried dillo, with the same unable to load result.
I had an idea of how to check this. I booted the problem computer with fc9 
Live-CD. (I think that gives me all clean configuration files) and I had the 
same problem and gmail still worked.

I have connected the ethernet cable out of the modem to my old computer ( fc8). 
I tried to boot, which went OK, except the modem wasn't found. I then  powered 
down the modem and the computer, then powered them both up and booted.
It seems to work fine. (Maybe this computer works on saturdays)
To me, it acts like hardware. Next I think I will try putting in an old NIC 
that I have and see what happens.



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Re: F11 Liveuser Password

2009-06-20 Thread DB


Having a bad day are you?:-) 
>> -- 
  
> On my desktop, I had this problem with F10, trying to get to rescue the

> system; F11 loaded straight away on my laptop. The difference appears to
> have been that the /tmp on my desktop had no space... My
> imagination??
  



If you used the Fedora Live-CD then the whole OS was, more or less,
loaded into the memory of your computer. Do you actually have a
dedicated partition that is /tmp on your hard drive? If so. Why?

And if it was 'full' I would think that would have been because of
Fedora 10.
Yes, I followed a setup suggestion from somewhere(!), and have a /tmp 
partition. I'd been trying to install "Rome-Total War" under wine & the 
only place big enough was /tmp. When that didn't work, I forgot to clear 
/tmp (as well as some left overs from before I switched to KDE) so yes, 
tmp had no free space. I couldn't login to F10 normally (thought it must 
have been a download which screwed up my system) I tried the CD to try & 
rescue the system. That's when I got the crazy login/password problem. 
Once I'd managed to clear /tmp, all worked normally again.


But as I wrote earlier, running the F11 Live-CD on my laptop (which also 
had F10 on it) gave no problems & has installed quite happily onto 
harddisk (reformatting all the existing partitions except /boot to ext4)


Cheers

Dave

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Re: this is why I hate changing Fedora versions

2009-06-20 Thread Joonas Sarajärvi
2009/6/21 Dave Stevens :
> I had a good F7 version that did pretty much everything I wanted. But it was
> no longer getting updates and I thought that since my ATI1600 video card was
> being dropped by ATI, maybe I had better upgrade. Then when I install the
> Sapphire 4770 card I will get updates and if I'm reading my mail correctly
> there is likely to be good open source support for the 3D graphic
> capabilities in the near term. Fine. So I switched to the new HD and
> installed F11 x86_64 fresh. The sound doesn't work. OK, what about muting?
> yes? Yes. The sound was muted by default. So I unmuted it. Still no sound.
> Go to System -> Preferences -> Advanced Volume Control. no joy. Check the
> plug on the back of the box, is it plugged in? yes. To the right little
> hole? yes. Just where it was when I switched and it worked then. Volume
> turned up on the speakers? yes. Don't know what else to check. The card is a
> little Ensoniq Sound Blaster compatible I've had for years. I don't do any
> tricks with it, just play tunes.
>
> I now remember going through this little dance two years ago or so when I
> went from FC5 to F7. Isn't it brain dead to ship a distribution with the
> sound muted by default?
>
> Apart from Ubuntu, does anyone have a suggestion where else I can look to
> get things working? The system _thinks_ it's working, kplayer chugs through
> Sweet Home Chicago just as if it was doing something useful, but no tune.
>
> Dave
>

The 4770 probably has a sound chip in it. In pavucontrol, check from
the right-click context menu of an output stream that it is assigned
to the right output device.


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Re: ot: How to disable extended keyboard in Thinkpad T61?

2009-06-20 Thread Ted Roche
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Globe Trotter wrote:
>
> I wonder if someone can tell me how to get rid of the extended keyboard on 
> the T61. These are the keys usually to the right side of laptop keyboards 
> which take off on their own once in a while ? :-(
>

I have a T61 running Fedora 10, so perhaps i can help, but I don't
understand the question. What is it you mean by "extended keyboard?"
Are you referring to the Insert-Delete-Home-End-PgUp-PgDn key cluster
on the top right or the cursor control keys on the lower right? And
what is it they are doing, in which application, that you'd like to
disable?


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Re: Firefox not reading prefs.js [SOLVED]

2009-06-20 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 20Jun2009 21:34, Erik P. Olsen  wrote:
| It turned out to be a permission problem with prefs.js. For some reason the
| ownership had been changed to root:root with mode bits 600. Changing it back
| to userID:userID and 644 solved the problem. But why it had been changed
| root ownership is a mystery to me.

Almost certainly you started firefox as root, probably with $HOME set to
your own home dir. Do you use the "su" or "sudo" commands much?
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this is why I hate changing Fedora versions

2009-06-20 Thread Dave Stevens
I had a good F7 version that did pretty much everything I wanted. But  
it was no longer getting updates and I thought that since my ATI1600  
video card was being dropped by ATI, maybe I had better upgrade. Then  
when I install the Sapphire 4770 card I will get updates and if I'm  
reading my mail correctly there is likely to be good open source  
support for the 3D graphic capabilities in the near term. Fine. So I  
switched to the new HD and installed F11 x86_64 fresh. The sound  
doesn't work. OK, what about muting? yes? Yes. The sound was muted by  
default. So I unmuted it. Still no sound. Go to System -> Preferences  
-> Advanced Volume Control. no joy. Check the plug on the back of the  
box, is it plugged in? yes. To the right little hole? yes. Just where  
it was when I switched and it worked then. Volume turned up on the  
speakers? yes. Don't know what else to check. The card is a little  
Ensoniq Sound Blaster compatible I've had for years. I don't do any  
tricks with it, just play tunes.


I now remember going through this little dance two years ago or so  
when I went from FC5 to F7. Isn't it brain dead to ship a distribution  
with the sound muted by default?


Apart from Ubuntu, does anyone have a suggestion where else I can look  
to get things working? The system _thinks_ it's working, kplayer chugs  
through Sweet Home Chicago just as if it was doing something useful,  
but no tune.


Dave


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Re: RocketRAID 1740 and Fedora 10

2009-06-20 Thread Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu
On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 15:56 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> If you aren't dual booting a Windows OS you should consider just using
> the card as a nonraid controller and use software raid. It doesn't look
> like that card comes with battery backed cache, so it probably won't help
> noticably with performance. By using software raid, you aren't tied to
> the hardware and if the controller dies you don't need to buy the same
> card to get your data back.

All very true.  But, the Fedora 7 PC I pulled this hardware from didn't
have any onboard SATA, so I had originally decided to purchase the RAID
card to give me SATA II ports AND do the RAID in hardware (the PC is 5
years old).  Now that I've moved it all into my new PC, I have access to
on board SATA.  So, the plan is to:

1. move the data from the old RocktRAID 1740 RAID 5 to my Linux RAID 1
2. disconnect all 3 drives from the RAID card
3. connect the same 3 drives to the on board SATA I/II ports
4. remove the RAID card
5. configure Linux RAID 5 on those drives

That'll make me sleep better at night. :)  But, I'm in no rush to do it,
especially since I make daily backups.  It took long enough to move all
the hardware around today. Maybe I'll make the change in a few months.

FYI: I'm doing all of this just so I can run FreeNAS in a KVM VM on my
PC. I don't think freebsd can read from or write to Linux LVM, so I'll
have to use NFS on top in order use the storage in FreeNAS.

Regards,

Ranbir

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Re: Baffled by a Cable Modem

2009-06-20 Thread Patrick

dn...@yahoo.com wrote:


it returned:
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt 
Iface
192.168.122.0   0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0 


What does " netstat -r " return?

On one of the lines, your "Gateway" should be the IP address of your router.

Patrick


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Re: RocketRAID 1740 and Fedora 10

2009-06-20 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 16:37:13 -0400,
  Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu  wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 16:28 -0400, Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote:
> > Does anyone know what could be wrong?
> 
> Damn it...sent in the question, replied to my own thread, and then I
> found the answer:
> 
> http://www.highpoint-tech.com/USA/faq_linuxgeneral_q6.htm
> 
> I'll have to use their proprietary driver.

If you aren't dual booting a Windows OS you should consider just using
the card as a nonraid controller and use software raid. It doesn't look
like that card comes with battery backed cache, so it probably won't help
noticably with performance. By using software raid, you aren't tied to
the hardware and if the controller dies you don't need to buy the same
card to get your data back.

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Re: imap mailbox stats?

2009-06-20 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Tony
Nelson wrote:
> On 09-06-20 03:39:40, Fernando Cassia wrote:
>  ...
>> The problem is this:I need to calculate what kind of messages are
>> using the most space in an IMAP account, now full with 7 gigs of
>> stuff.
>  ...
>> In other words, I´m looking for some sort of data-mining an IMAP4
>> mailbox on a remote server, based on message size, sender and
>> destination address.
>>
>> Thoughts? Comments?
>
> Well, not exactly, but you might look at the server and see how the
> messages are stored.  If they are in mbox files, they're already stored
> as efficiently as possible (unless the mbox'es need purging of deleted
> messages), and you won't be able to learn much by inspection.  If,
> however, they're in separate files as in MailDir format, `ls -lS |
> head` will show the worst offending messages.

Sounds good. Now I need to take find out in which of the data centers
is my GMail account, and then find permission to peek into google´s
servers, then take a plane to the USA.



;-)

Another solution, obviously, is for GMail to add in-depth stats and
analysis of the storage space used. Since it's a very CPU expensive
procedure, I doubt that'll ever see the light of day, at least for
free
FC

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[SOLVED] Re: error with yum update

2009-06-20 Thread Germán Racca
On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 18:03 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:14:15 -0300, Germán wrote:
> 
> > Hi all there:
> > 
> > I'm getting the following error with 'yum update' in F 11:
> > 
> > Running rpm_check_debug
> > ERROR with rpm_check_debug vs depsolve:
> > python(abi) is needed by (installed) hulahop-1:0.4.6-5.fc10.i386
> > Complete!
> > (1, [u'Please report this error in http://yum.baseurl.org/report'])
> > 
> > I need some help, please.
> 
> Give some more details, please.
> 
> The hulahop package has been rebuilt for F11, "yum list hulahop"
> shows 0.4.9-4.fc11.i586 in the base "fedora" Everything repository.
> What do you get for that query (yum list hulahop)?
> 
> What do you get when running "rpm -q hulahop"?
> 
> Can you increase the yum debuglevel (with option -d, see "man yum")
> for more verbose output when running "yum update hulahop"?
> 
> Are you aware of the "yum-utils" package and the "package-cleanup"
> command? Run useful commands like "package-cleanup --cleandupes"
> and "package-cleanup --problems".
> 

I'm so sorry for my useless question, I was very tired and sleepy last
night...Well, I had the F10 version of hulahop, so I removed it and
installed the version for F11. No problems with 'yum update' after that.

Thanks Michael for your answer,
Germán.

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Re: RocketRAID 1740 and Fedora 10

2009-06-20 Thread Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu
On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 16:28 -0400, Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote:
> Does anyone know what could be wrong?

Damn it...sent in the question, replied to my own thread, and then I
found the answer:

http://www.highpoint-tech.com/USA/faq_linuxgeneral_q6.htm

I'll have to use their proprietary driver.

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Ranbir

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Re: RocketRAID 1740 and Fedora 10

2009-06-20 Thread Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu
On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 16:28 -0400, Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote:
> When I boot the machine, the card appears to be detected properly.  But,
> the actual RAID array isn't.  That is, instead of seeing one drive, all
> three drives are detected individually.  Oh, the sata_mv module is being
> automatically loaded.

> Does anyone know what could be wrong?


I should have included the output when the sata_mv module is loaded:


Jun 20 15:58:37 ranbir kernel: sata_mv :05:00.0: version 1.24
Jun 20 15:58:37 ranbir kernel: sata_mv :05:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 
(level, low) -> IRQ 16
Jun 20 15:58:37 ranbir kernel: sata_mv :05:00.0: Gen-IIE 32 slots 4 ports 
SCSI mode IRQ via INTx
Jun 20 15:58:37 ranbir kernel: scsi14 : sata_mv
Jun 20 15:58:37 ranbir kernel: scsi15 : sata_mv
Jun 20 15:58:37 ranbir kernel: scsi16 : sata_mv
Jun 20 15:58:37 ranbir kernel: scsi17 : sata_mv
Jun 20 15:58:37 ranbir kernel: ata13: SATA max UDMA/133 mmio 
m1048...@0xfeb0 port 0xfeb22000 irq 16
Jun 20 15:58:37 ranbir kernel: ata14: SATA max UDMA/133 mmio 
m1048...@0xfeb0 port 0xfeb24000 irq 16
Jun 20 15:58:37 ranbir kernel: ata15: SATA max UDMA/133 mmio 
m1048...@0xfeb0 port 0xfeb26000 irq 16
Jun 20 15:58:37 ranbir kernel: ata16: SATA max UDMA/133 mmio 
m1048...@0xfeb0 port 0xfeb28000 irq 16
Jun 20 15:58:37 ranbir kernel: ata13: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 
SControl 300)
Jun 20 15:58:38 ranbir kernel: ata13.00: ATA-7: ST3500630AS, 3.AAC, max UDMA/133
Jun 20 15:58:38 ranbir kernel: ata13.00: 976773168 sectors, multi 0: LBA48 NCQ 
(depth 31/32)
Jun 20 15:58:38 ranbir kernel: ata13.00: configured for UDMA/133
Jun 20 15:58:38 ranbir kernel: ata14: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 
SControl 300)
Jun 20 15:58:38 ranbir kernel: ata14.00: ATA-7: ST3500630AS, 3.AAC, max UDMA/133
Jun 20 15:58:38 ranbir kernel: ata14.00: 976773168 sectors, multi 0: LBA48 NCQ 
(depth 31/32)
Jun 20 15:58:38 ranbir kernel: ata14.00: configured for UDMA/133
Jun 20 15:58:39 ranbir kernel: ata15: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 
SControl 300)
Jun 20 15:58:39 ranbir kernel: ata15.00: ATA-8: ST3500320AS, SD15, max UDMA/133
Jun 20 15:58:39 ranbir kernel: ata15.00: 976773168 sectors, multi 0: LBA48 NCQ 
(depth 31/32)
Jun 20 15:58:39 ranbir kernel: ata15.00: configured for UDMA/133
Jun 20 15:58:39 ranbir kernel: ata16: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300)
Jun 20 15:58:39 ranbir kernel: scsi 14:0:0:0: Direct-Access ATA  
ST3500630AS  3.AA PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
Jun 20 15:58:39 ranbir kernel: sd 14:0:0:0: [sdc] 976773168 512-byte hardware 
sectors (500108 MB)
Jun 20 15:58:39 ranbir kernel: sd 14:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off
Jun 20 15:58:39 ranbir kernel: sd 14:0:0:0: [sdc] Write cache: enabled, read 
cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
Jun 20 15:58:39 ranbir kernel: sd 14:0:0:0: [sdc] 976773168 512-byte hardware 
sectors (500108 MB)
Jun 20 15:58:39 ranbir kernel: sd 14:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off
Jun 20 15:58:39 ranbir kernel: sd 14:0:0:0: [sdc] Write cache: enabled, read 
cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
Jun 20 15:58:39 ranbir kernel: sdc: unknown partition table
Jun 20 15:58:39 ranbir kernel: sd 14:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI disk
Jun 20 15:58:39 ranbir kernel: sd 14:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
Jun 20 15:58:39 ranbir kernel: scsi 15:0:0:0: Direct-Access ATA  
ST3500630AS  3.AA PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
Jun 20 15:58:39 ranbir kernel: sd 15:0:0:0: [sdd] 976773168 512-byte hardware 
sectors (500108 MB)
Jun 20 15:58:39 ranbir kernel: sd 15:0:0:0: [sdd] Write Protect is off
Jun 20 15:58:39 ranbir kernel: sd 15:0:0:0: [sdd] Write cache: enabled, read 
cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
Jun 20 15:58:39 ranbir kernel: sd 15:0:0:0: [sdd] 976773168 512-byte hardware 
sectors (500108 MB)
Jun 20 15:58:39 ranbir kernel: sd 15:0:0:0: [sdd] Write Protect is off
Jun 20 15:58:39 ranbir kernel: sd 15:0:0:0: [sdd] Write cache: enabled, read 
cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
Jun 20 15:58:39 ranbir kernel: sdd: unknown partition table
Jun 20 15:58:39 ranbir kernel: sd 15:0:0:0: [sdd] Attached SCSI disk
Jun 20 15:58:39 ranbir kernel: sd 15:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0
Jun 20 15:58:39 ranbir kernel: scsi 16:0:0:0: Direct-Access ATA  
ST3500320AS  SD15 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
Jun 20 15:58:39 ranbir kernel: sd 16:0:0:0: [sde] 976773168 512-byte hardware 
sectors (500108 MB)
Jun 20 15:58:39 ranbir kernel: sd 16:0:0:0: [sde] Write Protect is off
Jun 20 15:58:39 ranbir kernel: sd 16:0:0:0: [sde] Write cache: enabled, read 
cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
Jun 20 15:58:39 ranbir kernel: sd 16:0:0:0: [sde] 976773168 512-byte hardware 
sectors (500108 MB)
Jun 20 15:58:39 ranbir kernel: sd 16:0:0:0: [sde] Write Protect is off
Jun 20 15:58:39 ranbir kernel: sd 16:0:0:0: [sde] Write cache: enabled, read 
cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
Jun 20 15:58:39 ranbir kernel: sde: unknown partition table
Jun 20 15:58:39 ranbir kernel: sd 16:0:0:0: [sde] Attached SCSI disk
Jun 20 15:58:39 ran

Re: Output of "yum list installed"

2009-06-20 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:24:27 -0430, Patrick wrote:

> On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 11:04 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 23:20:31 -0400, Bill wrote:
> > 
> > > Your guess is right, the updates are in disabled repos (at least mine all 
> > > are), 
> > > but they are packages for which an update exists.
> > 
> > Coincidence. Yum cannot know that there are updates in repos which
> > are not enabled.
> 
> Yes, that sounded odd to me. So red means simply "installed from some
> unknown (or disabled) repo"?

Yes, that's what I see here.

And yellow "version-release doesn't match enabled repos".

If I kill /var/lib/yumdb/*, "yum list installed" loses its history
and no longer knows from which repo a package was installed. Then it uses
yellow for all packages that don't match the cached metadata of the
enabled repos.

It uses red for the installed "mobile-broadband-provider-info" package
because that's a new package from updates-testing and not available
in the F11 "fedora" or "updates" repos. If I enable updates-testing
for the "list installed" query, the package name is not printed in red
anymore as now it is found in the enabled repos' metadata.

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RocketRAID 1740 and Fedora 10

2009-06-20 Thread Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu
Hi All,

I have a fully updated Fedora 10 box in which I've installed a
RocketRAID 1740 controller.  I've attached three SATA II drives to it,
and configured them for RAID 5.

When I boot the machine, the card appears to be detected properly.  But,
the actual RAID array isn't.  That is, instead of seeing one drive, all
three drives are detected individually.  Oh, the sata_mv module is being
automatically loaded.

I had this very same controller and the same drives installed in a
Fedora 7 box before.  The difference there was that I was using
Highpoint's own driver.  The RAID array came up as one drive, the way I
expected it to.

Does anyone know what could be wrong?

Regards,

Ranbir

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Re: Thunderbird bug or feature?

2009-06-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 13:51 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 16:42:06 -0700,
>   Konstantin Svist  wrote:
> > 
> > In 1-to-1 emails, though, this quickly becomes annoying since emails go
> > back and forward a lot and you'd need to scroll down more and more to
> > read each successive messages. It makes sense to leave the original
> > thread at the bottom in case CCed readers join in in the middle and for
> > general reference/sanity checks (which email is this one a reply to?).
> 
> You're supposed to trim the messages.
> There are a few prominent posters on the Fedora lists that don't trim
> posts and reading their replies is more difficult than it should be.

Amen to that. Also, the whole purpose of threading is to enable you to
check the history of each message. Copying the entire cumulative history
into each reply is counterproductive.

poc

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Re: OT: router problems?

2009-06-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 12:54 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > Assuming, that you have Adsl it could be that something is causing
> > interference to line between your home and DSLAM, what speed the
> > connection is and how far the DSLAM is?
> >
> OK - that makes sense.  We have overhead telephone wires in the
> village, so 
> sometimes work being done on any cable can affect others around.
> Maybe that 
> would apply.

I've found it useful to know the IP address of my ISP's entry port (seen
from my network). You can often discover this via traceroute, or just
look at the "default route" setting for your modem.

Whenever there's a problem I ping the IP to quickly detect if a network
problem is local to me or is in the ISP. Knowing the typical ping times
is also useful, and if the error rate is non-zero it's a strong hint of
a physical problem.

poc

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Re: Output of "yum list installed"

2009-06-20 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 11:04 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 23:20:31 -0400, Bill wrote:
> 
> > Your guess is right, the updates are in disabled repos (at least mine all 
> > are), 
> > but they are packages for which an update exists.
> 
> Coincidence. Yum cannot know that there are updates in repos which
> are not enabled.

Yes, that sounded odd to me. So red means simply "installed from some
unknown (or disabled) repo"?

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Re: Client connect to NFS server as user?

2009-06-20 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 15:38 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> Craig White wrote:
> > On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 09:27 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> >   
> >> How can I connect as user bobg, do I have to be root?
> >>
> >> [b...@box9 ~]$ mount.nfs box48:/home/NFS-files  /mnt/home
> >> mount.nfs: permission denied: no match for /mnt/home found in 
> >> /etc/fstab
> >>
> >> It looks as though I've missed something here ...
> >> 
> > 
> > you would have to have an entry in /etc/fstab that specified this as a
> > 'user' mount
> >
> > something like this...
> >
> > my.nfs.server:/mnt/home  /home/NFS-filesnfs user0 0
> >
> > but the truth is that using automounts such as /etc/auto.home
> > or /auto.misc is even better
> >
> > Craig
> >
> >
> >   
> 
> Ok, thanks, I just need to know what my options are. Should
> have suspected "fstab" and I will look at auto.home and
> auto.misc ...
> 
> I'm presently struggling with an Apple Mac, completely
> foreign to me! If only I can find a "terminal" with a
> command line.

Terminal.app

/Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app

Craig


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Re: Client connect to NFS server as user?

2009-06-20 Thread Bob Goodwin

Craig White wrote:

On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 09:27 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
  

How can I connect as user bobg, do I have to be root?

[b...@box9 ~]$ mount.nfs box48:/home/NFS-files  /mnt/home
mount.nfs: permission denied: no match for /mnt/home found in /etc/fstab

It looks as though I've missed something here ...



you would have to have an entry in /etc/fstab that specified this as a
'user' mount

something like this...

my.nfs.server:/mnt/home  /home/NFS-filesnfs user0 0

but the truth is that using automounts such as /etc/auto.home
or /auto.misc is even better

Craig


  


   Ok, thanks, I just need to know what my options are. Should
   have suspected "fstab" and I will look at auto.home and
   auto.misc ...

   I'm presently struggling with an Apple Mac, completely
   foreign to me! If only I can find a "terminal" with a
   command line.

   Bob


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Re: Firefox not reading prefs.js [SOLVED]

2009-06-20 Thread Erik P. Olsen
On 20/06/09 15:37, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
> On 20/06/09 10:57, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
>> Few days ago I updated firefox to firefox-3.0.11-1.fc10.i386 on my F10
>> system and since then it has started as if prefs.js does not exist. I can
>> change the settings via Edit -> Preferences but they are disregarded at next
>> start of firefox.
>>
>> Am I missing some option with this version or should I report the issue to
>> bugzilla?
>>
> Further studies have shown that with a new profile changes can be made to
> preferences, so it must be a problem migrating the old prefs.js to the new
> version of firefox. Is there a way to verify the validity of a prefs.js?
> 
It turned out to be a permission problem with prefs.js. For some reason the
ownership had been changed to root:root with mode bits 600. Changing it back
to userID:userID and 644 solved the problem. But why it had been changed
root ownership is a mystery to me.

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Re: Client connect to NFS server as user?

2009-06-20 Thread Craig White
On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 09:27 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> How can I connect as user bobg, do I have to be root?
> 
> [b...@box9 ~]$ mount.nfs box48:/home/NFS-files  /mnt/home
> mount.nfs: permission denied: no match for /mnt/home found in /etc/fstab
> 
> It looks as though I've missed something here ...

you would have to have an entry in /etc/fstab that specified this as a
'user' mount

something like this...

my.nfs.server:/mnt/home  /home/NFS-filesnfs user0 0

but the truth is that using automounts such as /etc/auto.home
or /auto.misc is even better

Craig


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Re: Yum not working after upgrade

2009-06-20 Thread stan
On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:31:52 +0100
Colin Paul Adams  wrote:

> > "Frank" == Frank Murphy  writes:
> 
> Frank> On 20/06/09 19:20, Colin Paul Adams wrote:
> >>> "Colin" == Colin Paul Adams
> >>> writes:
> >> 
> 
> > Actually there are masses of fc10.x86_64 packages installed that are
> >> stopping upgrades. It is clear that the upgrade process has
> >> failed miserably, yet it F11 is certainly at least partly
> >> installed.
> >> 
> >> If I try the install again, is that liekly to clean it up?
> 
> 
> Frank> yum --skip-broken update
> 
> Frank> or yum install smart
> 
> Frank> then use smart to upgrade.
> 
> Frank> su (sudo smart upgrade
> 
> Hm. 
> 
> Yum --skip-broken install smart causes smart to be skipped.
> 
> Ironies.
> 
> If i try:
> 
> yum --skip-broken update
> 
> I get:
> 
> ...
> skip-broken could not solve problems
> Error: Missing Dependency: libvamp-hostsdk.so.3()(64bit) is needed by
> package audacity-1.3.7-0.7.beta.fc11.x86_64 (updates) Error: Missing
> Dependency: libfence.so.4()(64bit) is needed by package
> modcluster-0.16.1-1.fc11.x86_64 (updates) Error: Missing Dependency:
> libxcb-keysyms.so.0()(64bit) is needed by package
> vlc-core-1.0.0-0.11rc3.fc11.x86_64 (rpmfusion-free) Error: Missing
> Dependency: libptf77blas.so.3()(64bit) is needed by package
> numpy-1.3.0-5.fc11.x86_64 (updates) Error: Missing Dependency:
> libcelt.so.0()(64bit) is needed by package
> gstreamer-plugins-bad-0.10.12-2.fc11.x86_64 (rpmfusion-free-updates)
> Error: Missing Dependency: libptcblas.so.3()(64bit) is needed by
> package numpy-1.3.0-5.fc11.x86_64 (updates) Error: Missing
> Dependency: zlib = 1.2.3-18.fc9 is needed by package
> minizip-1.2.3-18.fc9.x86_64 (fedora) You could try running:
> package-cleanup --problems package-cleanup --dupes rpm -Va --nofiles
> --nodigest
> 
> and I've already tried those last three options.
> 
> It looks really badly screwed from here.

I would agree.  From your description before, I think that your system
is either constrained by memory or hard disk space from doing a 1600+
update in one chunk.  A guess.

I think you need to update each package individually, rather than en
masse as you are trying.  The fact that the libraries didn't upgrade is
a very bad sign.  That your system still booted is a good sign as it
means there is some coherence still present.

Do a  yum list installed  to see what is actually installed.
Redirect the output to a file and put 
yum -y upgradein front of each package.
Then run it as a shell script by adding   #! /bin/bash   at the top and
making it executable  chmod +x script.

At first it should pull lots of dependencies in, then fewer and fewer.
But it shouldn't be a single massive update.

If that doesn't work, try doing some forced updates of library packages
that seem to be causing problems before going back to yum.

I think you can recover from this, but it is going to be a long hard
slog.  I suggest a short walk in the fresh air before you start.
Making decisions in urgency, unless necessary, is rarely good policy.

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Re: Can't play MP3 files.

2009-06-20 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 13:42:18 -0700,
  stan  wrote:
> You need to install the rpmfusion-nonfree repositories and install a
> version that has mp3 support.  Links to these other repositories are
> available on the fedora site

I believe that is incorrect. (At least gstreamer stuff is not found in the
nonfree repository.)

The free repository is for free code that is not included in Fedora for some
reason, including not being usable in some locations because of say software
patents or because that kind of package is prohibitted by policy, such as kmods.

The nonfree repository is for nonfree code. Typically this is stuff with
no commercial use restrictions. Though there could be other reasons, I really
haven't looked at this repository much except for some games.

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Re: Yum not working after upgrade

2009-06-20 Thread Major Péter

Hi,

I would try this first:

rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db*
rpm --rebuilddb

Maybe this will help.

Peter

2009-06-20 20:54 keltezéssel, Frank Murphy írta:

On 20/06/09 19:51, Colin Paul Adams wrote:



Anyone got any other ideas, before I abandon the upgrade attempt and
try a fresh install?

try
yum clean all

the try again with
yum --skip-broken update

Plumb out of ideas after that.

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Re: Yum not working after upgrade

2009-06-20 Thread Frank Murphy

On 20/06/09 19:51, Colin Paul Adams wrote:



Anyone got any other ideas, before I abandon the upgrade attempt and
try a fresh install?

try
yum clean all

the try again with
yum --skip-broken update

Plumb out of ideas after that.

Frank

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Re: Yum not working after upgrade

2009-06-20 Thread Colin Paul Adams
> "Frank" == Frank Murphy  writes:

Frank> On 20/06/09 19:45, Colin Paul Adams wrote:
>> 
> Should I reply yes, No or Ctrl-C and try something else (i'm
>> thinking maybe it would be best to try a fresh install of F11,
>> but avoid formatting the /home partition - is that likely to
>> work reasonably well?)?


Frank> The only one you need to get yum back in a working
Frank> condition is:

Frank> New channel 'Fedora 11 - x86_64 - Updates (updates)'
Frank> detected.  Include it? (Y/n): y

Frank> New channel 'Fedora 11 - x86_64 (core)' detected.  Include
Frank> it? (Y/n): y

Updating cache...    [100%]

Computing transaction...
No interesting upgrades available.
Saving cache...

So, no harm done, but no success either.

Anyone got any other ideas, before I abandon the upgrade attempt and
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Re: Thunderbird bug or feature?

2009-06-20 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 16:42:06 -0700,
  Konstantin Svist  wrote:
> 
> In 1-to-1 emails, though, this quickly becomes annoying since emails go
> back and forward a lot and you'd need to scroll down more and more to
> read each successive messages. It makes sense to leave the original
> thread at the bottom in case CCed readers join in in the middle and for
> general reference/sanity checks (which email is this one a reply to?).

You're supposed to trim the messages.
There are a few prominent posters on the Fedora lists that don't trim
posts and reading their replies is more difficult than it should be.

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Re: Yum not working after upgrade

2009-06-20 Thread Frank Murphy

On 20/06/09 19:45, Colin Paul Adams wrote:



Should I reply yes, No or Ctrl-C and try something else (i'm thinking
maybe it would be best to try a fresh install of F11, but avoid
formatting the /home partition - is that likely to work reasonably well?)?



The only one you need to get yum back in a working condition is:

New channel 'Fedora 11 - x86_64 - Updates (updates)' detected.
Include it? (Y/n): y

New channel 'Fedora 11 - x86_64 (core)' detected.
Include it? (Y/n): y


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Re: Yum not working after upgrade

2009-06-20 Thread Colin Paul Adams
> "Frank" == Frank Murphy  writes:

Frank> On 20/06/09 19:31, Colin Paul Adams wrote:
Frank> Go the a local F11 mirror download to harddrive

Frank> Or

Frank> rpm -Uvh
Frank> 
"http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/fedora/linux/releases/11/Everything/x86_64/os/Packages/PackageKit-smart-0.4.6-8.fc11.x86_64.rpm
Frank> \
Frank> 
http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/fedora/linux/releases/11/Everything/x86_64/os/Packages/fedora-package-config-smart-11-17.x86_64.rpm
Frank> \
Frank> 
http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/fedora/linux/releases/11/Everything/x86_64/os/Packages/smart-1.2-64.fc11.x86_64.rpm";


Frank> Those three files should be it, famous last words ;0

Well, it worked.

Thanks.

Now when I try:

smart upgrade

I get:

New channel 'Fedora 11 - x86_64 - Test Updates (updates-testing)' detected.
Include it? (Y/n): 

I don't like the sound of that testing bit - it sounds like
pre-release stuff.

Should I reply yes, No or Ctrl-C and try something else (i'm thinking
maybe it would be best to try a fresh install of F11, but avoid
formatting the /home partition - is that likely to work reasonably well?)?
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Re: Yum not working after upgrade

2009-06-20 Thread Frank Murphy

On 20/06/09 19:31, Colin Paul Adams wrote:

Go the a local F11 mirror download to harddrive

Or

rpm -Uvh 
"http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/fedora/linux/releases/11/Everything/x86_64/os/Packages/PackageKit-smart-0.4.6-8.fc11.x86_64.rpm 
\
http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/fedora/linux/releases/11/Everything/x86_64/os/Packages/fedora-package-config-smart-11-17.x86_64.rpm 
\

http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/fedora/linux/releases/11/Everything/x86_64/os/Packages/smart-1.2-64.fc11.x86_64.rpm";


Those three files should be it, famous last words ;0

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Re: Yum not working after upgrade

2009-06-20 Thread Colin Paul Adams
> "Frank" == Frank Murphy  writes:

Frank> On 20/06/09 19:20, Colin Paul Adams wrote:
>>> "Colin" == Colin Paul Adams
>>> writes:
>> 

> Actually there are masses of fc10.x86_64 packages installed that are
>> stopping upgrades. It is clear that the upgrade process has
>> failed miserably, yet it F11 is certainly at least partly
>> installed.
>> 
>> If I try the install again, is that liekly to clean it up?


Frank> yum --skip-broken update

Frank> or yum install smart

Frank> then use smart to upgrade.

Frank> su (sudo smart upgrade

Hm. 

Yum --skip-broken install smart causes smart to be skipped.

Ironies.

If i try:

yum --skip-broken update

I get:

...
skip-broken could not solve problems
Error: Missing Dependency: libvamp-hostsdk.so.3()(64bit) is needed by package 
audacity-1.3.7-0.7.beta.fc11.x86_64 (updates)
Error: Missing Dependency: libfence.so.4()(64bit) is needed by package 
modcluster-0.16.1-1.fc11.x86_64 (updates)
Error: Missing Dependency: libxcb-keysyms.so.0()(64bit) is needed by package 
vlc-core-1.0.0-0.11rc3.fc11.x86_64 (rpmfusion-free)
Error: Missing Dependency: libptf77blas.so.3()(64bit) is needed by package 
numpy-1.3.0-5.fc11.x86_64 (updates)
Error: Missing Dependency: libcelt.so.0()(64bit) is needed by package 
gstreamer-plugins-bad-0.10.12-2.fc11.x86_64 (rpmfusion-free-updates)
Error: Missing Dependency: libptcblas.so.3()(64bit) is needed by package 
numpy-1.3.0-5.fc11.x86_64 (updates)
Error: Missing Dependency: zlib = 1.2.3-18.fc9 is needed by package 
minizip-1.2.3-18.fc9.x86_64 (fedora)
 You could try running: package-cleanup --problems
package-cleanup --dupes
rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest

and I've already tried those last three options.

It looks really badly screwed from here.
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Re: Yum not working after upgrade

2009-06-20 Thread Frank Murphy

On 20/06/09 19:20, Colin Paul Adams wrote:

"Colin" == Colin Paul Adams  writes:





Actually there are masses of fc10.x86_64 packages installed that are
stopping upgrades. It is clear that the upgrade process has failed
miserably, yet it F11 is certainly at least partly installed.

If I try the install again, is that liekly to clean it up?



yum --skip-broken update

or yum install smart

then use smart to upgrade.

su (sudo smart upgrade

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Re: Yum not working after upgrade

2009-06-20 Thread Frank Murphy

On 20/06/09 19:10, Colin Paul Adams wrote:

"Frank" == Frank Murphy  writes:



The rpm packages are all already up-to-date.

There is no smart. And I have no such command installed.


My bad Colin,
thought it was the old rpm - yum update problem.

You seem to be sorted anyhow.

smart is a downloader, handy for those yum not working moments.

Frank

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Re: Yum not working after upgrade

2009-06-20 Thread Colin Paul Adams
> "Colin" == Colin Paul Adams  writes:

> "Jeff" == Jeff Spaleta  writes:
Jeff> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Colin Paul
Jeff> Adams wrote:
>>> 
> Yum is not working after I upgraded from F10 to F11.


Jeff> How did you perform the upgrade?

Colin> from the DVD.

Colin> I've now done a yum -Uvh --force yum*.rpm and this has done
Colin> the trick.

Colin> I'm now running yum upgrade, so it looks like things should
Colin> sort themselves out, but I expect I will have to delete a
Colin> lot of 586 packages that got installed as part of the
Colin> upgrade.

Actually there are masses of fc10.x86_64 packages installed that are
stopping upgrades. It is clear that the upgrade process has failed
miserably, yet it F11 is certainly at least partly installed.

If I try the install again, is that liekly to clean it up?
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Re: Yum not working after upgrade

2009-06-20 Thread Colin Paul Adams
> "Jeff" == Jeff Spaleta  writes:

Jeff> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Colin Paul
Jeff> Adams wrote:
>> 
> Yum is not working after I upgraded from F10 to F11.


Jeff> How did you perform the upgrade?

from the DVD.

I've now done a yum -Uvh --force yum*.rpm and this has done the trick.

I'm now running yum upgrade, so it looks like things should sort
themselves out, but I expect I will have to delete a lot of 586
packages that got installed as part of the upgrade.
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Re: Yum not working after upgrade

2009-06-20 Thread Colin Paul Adams
> "Frank" == Frank Murphy  writes:

Frank> On 20/06/09 18:49, Colin Paul Adams wrote:
>> 
> How am I supposed to fix this by hand?

Frank> You need to update rpm first

Frank> as you are caught I would say go to one of the F11 mirrors
Frank> and download rpm-* rpm-libs-* smart

Frank> install with rpm --Uvh *.rpm

Frank> then smart update

I have the F11 DVD.

The rpm packages are all already up-to-date.

There is no smart. And I have no such command installed.
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Re: Yum not working after upgrade

2009-06-20 Thread M A Young

On Sat, 20 Jun 2009, Colin Paul Adams wrote:


Yum is not working after I upgraded from F10 to F11.

yum update

gives me:

here was a problem importing one of the Python modules
required to run yum. The error leading to this problem was:

  No module named yum

Please install a package which provides this module, or
verify that the module is installed correctly.

It's possible that the above module doesn't match the
current version of Python, which is:
2.6 (r26:66714, Mar 17 2009, 11:44:14)
[GCC 4.4.0 20090313 (Red Hat 4.4.0-0.26)]

If you cannot solve this problem yourself, please go to
the yum faq at:
 http://wiki.linux.duke.edu/YumFaq

rpm -q yum gives me:

yum-3.2.23-3.fc10.noarch

so it looks like it wasn't upgraded.

How am I supposed to fix this by hand?


Get the F11 updates version of yum from your favourite mirror 
http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/11/

or from koji
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=102936
then upgrade to that version using rpm eg.
rpm -Fvh yum-3.2.23-3.fc11.noarch.rpm
This might ask for more packages, so if necessary download them and add 
them to the end of the rpm command until the install works. then try

yum update
again.

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Re: Yum not working after upgrade

2009-06-20 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Colin Paul
Adams wrote:
>
> Yum is not working after I upgraded from F10 to F11.


How did you perform the upgrade?

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Re: Yum not working after upgrade

2009-06-20 Thread stan
On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 18:49:22 +0100
Colin Paul Adams  wrote:

> 
> Yum is not working after I upgraded from F10 to F11.
> 
> yum update
> 
> gives me:
> 
> here was a problem importing one of the Python modules
> required to run yum. The error leading to this problem was:
> 
>No module named yum
> 
> Please install a package which provides this module, or
> verify that the module is installed correctly.
> 
> It's possible that the above module doesn't match the
> current version of Python, which is:
> 2.6 (r26:66714, Mar 17 2009, 11:44:14) 
> [GCC 4.4.0 20090313 (Red Hat 4.4.0-0.26)]
> 
> If you cannot solve this problem yourself, please go to 
> the yum faq at:
>   http://wiki.linux.duke.edu/YumFaq
> 
> rpm -q yum gives me:
> 
> yum-3.2.23-3.fc10.noarch
> 
> so it looks like it wasn't upgraded.
> 
> How am I supposed to fix this by hand?

If you have network access, go to a repository, (a browser should do)
and find the F11 yum rpm.  Download it to your system.

http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/11/

As root, runrpm -Uvh yum-package-name.

Then repeat your query above to confirm it was installed.

The fact that something as basic as yum didn't get upgraded on your
system would make me concerned about the success of the upgrade.  Did
the repositories get upgraded to the F11 repositories?

Check in /etc/yum.repos.d/ to see that they are for F11.

Before you do a general update, run

yum update yum*
and
yum update rpm*
to be sure that the update systems are all at latest versions.

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Came across a F11-Virt How to (Link) in case useful to newcomers

2009-06-20 Thread Frank Murphy

http://www.howtoforge.com/virtualization-with-kvm-on-a-fedora-11-server

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How can I listen to Shoutcast music servers in Amarok

2009-06-20 Thread arijit sarkar
Hi all,

I am using Fedora 11 (installed both Gnome and KDE). I can browse and
listen to Ice-Cast servers in Amarok but I can't do that for shout-cast
servers.

I will be grateful if somebody help me out.

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Re: Yum not working after upgrade

2009-06-20 Thread Frank Murphy

On 20/06/09 18:49, Colin Paul Adams wrote:



How am I supposed to fix this by hand?


You need to update rpm first

as you are caught I would say
go to one of the F11 mirrors and download
rpm-*
rpm-libs-*
smart

install with rpm --Uvh *.rpm

then smart update

Frank



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Re: Selinux, cups, hplip

2009-06-20 Thread Steven Stern

On 06/20/2009 06:12 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:

On 06/19/2009 07:10 PM, Steven Stern wrote:

After installing hplip-gui, I got selinux errors when checking on the
printer status.

audit2allow generated the following policy

module cups20090619 1.0;

require {
type hwdata_t;
type xdm_t;
class dir search;
class file { read getattr open };
}

#= xdm_t ==
allow xdm_t hwdata_t:dir search;
allow xdm_t hwdata_t:file { read getattr open };



xdm is checking the printer status? This allow rule indicates the X
Login program is checking the printer status. Could you attach the AVC's
you used to generate this policy.



And here's another one related to hplip

type=AVC msg=audit(1245520061.974:38037): avc:  denied  { read } for 
pid=25561 comm="python" name="mls" dev=selinuxfs ino=12 
scontext=system_u:system_r:hplip_t:s0 
tcontext=system_u:object_r:security_t:s0 tclass=file


type=AVC msg=audit(1245520061.974:38037): avc:  denied  { read open } 
for  pid=25561 comm="python" name="mls" dev=selinuxfs ino=12 
scontext=system_u:system_r:hplip_t:s0 
tcontext=system_u:object_r:security_t:s0 tclass=file




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Yum not working after upgrade

2009-06-20 Thread Colin Paul Adams

Yum is not working after I upgraded from F10 to F11.

yum update

gives me:

here was a problem importing one of the Python modules
required to run yum. The error leading to this problem was:

   No module named yum

Please install a package which provides this module, or
verify that the module is installed correctly.

It's possible that the above module doesn't match the
current version of Python, which is:
2.6 (r26:66714, Mar 17 2009, 11:44:14) 
[GCC 4.4.0 20090313 (Red Hat 4.4.0-0.26)]

If you cannot solve this problem yourself, please go to 
the yum faq at:
  http://wiki.linux.duke.edu/YumFaq

rpm -q yum gives me:

yum-3.2.23-3.fc10.noarch

so it looks like it wasn't upgraded.

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Re: Hard Drives not accessible after Update to F11

2009-06-20 Thread stan
On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:35:45 +0200
Andreas Burget  wrote:

> > On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:15:51 +0200
> > Andreas Burget  wrote:
> >
> > >  Hi there,
> > >  I updated my System via Preupgrade from F10 to F11. The update
> > > went smoothly but after the reboot the System stopped while
> > > booting saying it can't find some drives by their UUIDs. I booted
> > > the LiveCD and disabled them in fstab. after that the system
> > > booted without problems, but I'm not able to mount my other
> > > drives.
> > >
> > >  here's my fstab:http://fpaste.org/paste/15779
> > >  and here's the fdisk -l output:http://fpaste.org/paste/15780
> > >
> > >  I also tried booting the F10 LiveCD and was able to mount them
> > > there. here's the fdisk -l output from
> > > F10:http://fpaste.org/paste/15781
> > >
> > >  I hope you can help me fix this
> > >
> >
> > If you run the command   blkid  it will give you the information you
> > need to put in your fstab in order to access the drives.
> >
> 
> Thanks for the hint but that didn't solve my Problem.
> blkid only outputs the devices that are already in fstab so there's
> nothing new for me to add. http://fpaste.org/paste/15865

I don't think this is true.  I have umounted partitions, deleted them
with (c)fdisk, recreated different partitions, put filesystem on them,
and run blkid and it has given me the new UUID number.  I then edit
fstab, adding the new partitions and deleting the old, and I am able
to mount them.

I think it more likely that there has to be an entry in /dev as a block
device (looks like those are major chord 8 or 253 from your listing).

But it seems Bill was prescient in asking why they disappeared.

> 
> my drives are listed in /dev as sdb, sdc, sdd but the partitions are
> missing. they should be sdb1 sdc1 and sdd2 as seen in fdisk -l output
> from the F10 LiveCD. here's my /dev http://fpaste.org/paste/15866
> 

The evidence seems to suggest that either udev or hal failed to notice
and log these partitions in /dev (I am not familiar with this process).
Once they are there, they should have the same UUID, and so should be
mountable from fstab again.

You say you can boot into the system without mounting those
drives. Can you run parted, fdisk, or cfdisk against one of the drives
when the new system is up.

parted /dev/sdb  or
cfdisk /dev/sdb  or
fdisk /dev/sdb

For now, just print the partition table and see if it is present as you
would expect it to be.  If it is, as seems likely, then the problem is
definitely in the hardware sensing.  At that point, quit the
partition tool.  Then you should first look in /var/log/messages to see
if there are any relevant error messages from boot up about why the
partitions that exist aren't being recognized.  Then you should go look
for bugzilla records of this problem to see if there is a workaround. If
there are none, open a problem record so you can get expert help.

http://bugzilla.redhat.com

There are experts here, perhaps one will be able to recognize your
problem and give you better advice.

WARNING!!!  The advice below could lose your data!

If you are feeling adventurous and impatient, you could write the
partition table on the drive without changing it, if it is correct.
Perhaps that will trigger a process to put device nodes in /dev for the
partitions or do so on reboot.  But there is a risk that it could
lose the data on the drive by messing with the partition table.  I
wouldn't do this until I had pursued other alternatives first.

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Re: Evolution exchange F11 fails

2009-06-20 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Mon, 2009-06-15 at 08:03 +0200, William Murray wrote:
> Hello all,
> Does anyone have evolution working with the older OWA access
> on F11? I updated two machines and in each case evolution fails to
> connect. I also tried a fresh start, but no luck.
>I could start posting E2K_DEBUG stuff, but does it work for anyone?
>  Bill

I haven't tested extensively, but yes, the OWA connector
(evolution-exchange) connects and downloads my mail.

The OpenChange connector (evolution-mapi), on the other hand, is
unusable at the moment
(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=505166).  Hope this is
fixed soon...

> 
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Re: F11 install goes well, BUT, HP1020 Printer refuses to work.

2009-06-20 Thread Geoffrey Leach
On 06/19/2009 10:12:09 PM, stan wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:01:39 +1000
> Anthony Irven Scott  wrote:
> 
> > Hi All,
> > I have recently installed F11 by upgrading via Preupgrade from F10
> to 
> > F11 and am pretty happy with it.
> > The only persistent problem is my inability to get the printer up
> and 
> > running. Initially, it was not recognised at all. HP-GUI didn't see
> > it and stated that it was not connected.
> > 
> > Could anyone help with this issue. I am finding it very annoying as
> I 
> > have installed this printer in previous iterations of Fedora.
> > 
> > Thanks for any help.
> > *
> > 
> Did you check whether there was a new configuration file with a
> different format than the old one?  A possibility.
> 
> At one point I had a similar problem after an update, for an HP
> printer. The HP drivers would not recognize it.  I searched for the
> model name on the web with linux and found a linux printer project
> whose name I can't remember, but that had lots of alternate drivers.
> When I installed that it brought up the specific model and printing
> started working again.  Might be worth a try.
> 
> What about disconnecting the printer, rebooting with it disconnected
> so
> it is not found.  Then shut down, reconnect the printer, and start
> again.  It may clean out a configuration left somewhere and the
> hardware discovery could put in the right configuration.

Alternatively, go to the printer admin menu and delete and reinstall 
the printer. Then reboot.




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Re: F10 to F11 upgrade loops at Finishing upgrade process

2009-06-20 Thread Colin Paul Adams
> "Colin" == Colin Paul Adams  writes:

Colin> I'm currently upgrading my main desktop from F10 to F11
Colin> (both x86-64).  It is currently saying:

Colin> 1613 of 1613 packages completed

Colin> Finishing upgrade process. This may take a little while...

Colin> It has already taken a very long while (probably as long as
Colin> the 1613 packages took). The progress bar marker is
Colin> flicking backwards and forwards in what appears to be
Colin> approximately a 3-second loop.

Colin> What can I do about this? My only guess is Ctrl-alt-del and
Colin> hopes it does the right thing on reboot - but this is a
Colin> desperate hope. 

It finished right after I sent the email.

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F10 to F11 upgrade loops at Finishing upgrade process

2009-06-20 Thread Colin Paul Adams
I'm currently upgrading my main desktop from F10 to F11 (both x86-64).
It is currently saying:

1613 of 1613 packages completed

Finishing upgrade process. This may take a little while...

It has already taken a very long while (probably as long as the 1613
packages took). The progress bar marker is flicking backwards and
forwards in what appears to be approximately a 3-second loop.

What can I do about this? My only guess is Ctrl-alt-del and hopes it
does the right thing on reboot - but this is a desperate hope.
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Re: eradicating f11 anacron

2009-06-20 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
> Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> 
>> It is your /etc/sysconfig/crontab from before the update.
> 
> Thanks. Yes, I already knew that.
> 
> What was strange, however, was that there was no original 
> /etc/sysconfig/crontab, only this new one. My x86_64 system 
> doesn't have that file either, only /etc/sysconfig/crond and 
> /etc/crontab, but no /etc/sysconfig/crontab.
> 
Maybe it is left over from an upgrade? I have one in F10, but I used
pre-upgrade to migrate it from F8.

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2009-06-20 Thread dnvot

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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:42:14 -0400
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Subject: Re: Baffled by a Cable Modem
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On 06/20/2009 10:38 AM, Jim wrote:

>> What your forgetting is the mac# from a previous device, Computer ,etc,
>> some cable modems will retain that mac # and not connect to any new
>> devices until you clear the old one.
>>

> I thought he had connectivity - just not to all hosts - so this sounds
>like a red herring.

I have been trying to follow this line of trouble shooting, but it think it is 
above my pay grade.
But I think you are right about the red-herring. I can ping any one I have 
tried. I think that means my DHCP and DNS are OK.

>Could it be DNS problem?  ... firefox caches dns ... so some cached
>hosts may work
That looks promising. If firefox is cacheing a bad dns, then maybe everything 
else would work OK except firefox. Maybe, if it cached a google dns, it would 
work with the google stuff, which it does, but not other sites.
However, I also tried dillo, with the same unable to load result.
I had an idea of how to check this. I booted the problem computer with fc9 
Live-CD. (I think that gives me all clean configuration files) and I had the 
same problem and gmail still worked.

I have connected the ethernet cable out of the modem to my old computer ( fc8). 
I tried to boot, which went OK, except the modem wasn't found. I then  powered 
down the modem and the computer, then powered them both up and booted.
 It seems to work fine. (Maybe this computer works on saturdays)
To me, it acts like hardware. Next I think I will try putting in an old NIC 
that I have and see what happens.
 

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Re: Baffled by a Cable Modem

2009-06-20 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 14:33:19 -0500,
>>   "Mikkel L. Ellertson"  wrote:
>>> You will also want to comment out the HWADDR= line, or
>>> you may get strange results.
>> It works fine for me. I like to leave that in as I have some machines with
>> multiple nics and that makes sure that they consistantly get associated
>> with the same interface.
>>
>> What problems have you seen?
>>
> From sysconfig.txt:
> 
> MACADDR=
>Set the hardware address for this device to this.
>Use of this in conjunction with HWADDR= may cause
>unintended behavior.
> 
> Mikkel
> 
I forgot to add that udev is what makes sure that the NICs are
consistently named. (70-persistent-net.rules) What HWADDR does is
make sure the interface does not come up if the MAC address is
wrong. By the time you get to bringing up the interface, the device
name is already assigned.

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Re: F11 fix for sound on Intel HDA machines ?

2009-06-20 Thread stan
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 00:37:25 +1000
Danny Yee  wrote:

> stan wrote:
> > This will tell you the maker and model of your HDA-Intel chip (and
> > a lot of other potentially useful information for troubleshooting).
> > You could post it here so people can see what your system
> > configuration is as well.
> > 
> > http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh
>  
> The output from that is attached.
> 
> I had sound working briefly, then it stopped -- between tracks in
> amarok -- and now I can't get amarok or vlc to make any noise at all.
> system-config-soundcard works, however, and flash works in Firefox,
> so it's not a driver problem.
> 
> I've tried playing with alsamixer and removing and reinstalling
> pulseaudio (several times).  I've tried logging out and logging in
> again, and rebooting.
> 
> Any ideas?  I had sound working stably in Fedora 10, after many
> traumas, so I'm unhappy that it's regressed.
> 
> Danny.

There seem to be many issues with your setup.

!!ALSA Version
!!

Driver version: 1.0.18a
Library version:1.0.20
Utilities version:  1.0.20

Your drivers are at 1.0.18, and as someone else said there was a lot of
work done on hda-intel from 1.0.18 to 1.0.20.  You need to update the
driver package as described earlier in the thread.

Your chip is 
!!HDA-Intel Codec information
!!---
--startcollapse--

Codec: Realtek ALC1200

This is a very new chip in the ICH10 family.

!!PCI Soundcards installed in the system
!!--

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio
Controller

I could find no documentation in the alsa-driver snapshot I have
regarding this chip.  That is not a good sign.

However, the fact that it was working in F10 means that there is
probably a model that alsa is able to discover that works for this
chip, even though not designed explicitly for it.  And in fact there is
mention of the chip in the code in relation to asus-p5q.  Perhaps the
documentation just hasn't caught up to the code yet.

And alsa might have found that here as well, but this appears to be a
problem with your default device.

!!ALSA configuration files
!!

!!System wide config file (/etc/asound.conf)

#Generated by system-config-soundcard
#If you edit this file, don't run system-config-soundcard,
#all your changes here could be lost.
#HWCONF
#DEV 2
pcm.!default { type plug slave {  pcm "hw:0,2" }}
ctl.!default { type hw card 0 }

You are using hw card 0, your hda-intel for output, but you are using
device 2.  Unfortunately, this doesn't exist.

!!Aplay/Arecord output
!!

APLAY

 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC1200 Analog [ALC1200 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: ALC1200 Digital [ALC1200 Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

If you are playing analog you need to change that hw:0,2 to hw:0,0 or if
you are playing digital you need to change that to hw:0,1

And this really should not exist in asound.conf.  Better that you copy
it to .asoundrc in your home directory and remove the /etc/asound.conf
file.  Then the system default will be the alsa default hw:0,0 and you
will use whatever you set in your .asoundrc when you log in.

Everything else looks OK as near as I can tell.  Fixing these might not
fix your problem, but if you don't fix the configuration at least there
is no chance you will get sound.

If you still have access to the F10 system, it would be good to look at
the alsa-info.sh output and see how the configuration differed from the
current system.  In particular, check if you had a .asoundrc and if
there was an /etc/modules.conf file and what was in it.

In future, before you do an upgrade, you should run the alsa-info.sh
and let it save the result online.  Then if sound doesn't work with the
new system, you have the old configuration that worked to guide you to a
solution.

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F11 Trash Not Emptying

2009-06-20 Thread Beartooth TpBkR

Sometimes it tells me that certain things can't be removed (Error 
removing file: Permission denied) -- even though their owner is my userid 
-- and sometimes it just does nothing. 

Ir I right click on one of the items in the trash, then on 
Properties, then on Permissions, it tells me I own it; but if I try to 
change group folder access, it says 'Sorry, could not change the 
permissions of "192.168.1.100": Operation not supported by backend.'

This happened once before, with F10 iirc, and that time I managed 
to get to the trash as root and deleted the stuff; but alas!, I can 
neither recall nor reconstruct how I did it. As root at /home/btth, if I 
do ls|grep Trash, I get no hits. Similarly at /home/btth/Desktop.

If I click on it, click file, then Open Location, it tells me 
"trash:///" -- but I can't cd to it. (Open Parent is grayed out.)

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Re: upgrading & display problem

2009-06-20 Thread Beartooth TpBkR
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:42:01 -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote:

> Beartooth TpBkR wrote:
[...]
>>  I think I'm going to have to shut everything down, take the
>> problem machine off the switch, and re-tinker with all three
>> peripherals connected directly to it -- the way I quit having to do
>> installs and upgrades three or four releases ago.
>>
>>  Is there a less tedious way??
>>   
> Problem is that KVM switches emulate monitor keyboard and mouse to the
> computers. This is because default BIOS settings prevent the computer
> from booting if the keyboard/monitor aren't present 

What is odd is that throughout the last two or three Fedora 
releases, if not longer, these upgrades have succeeded with the KVM 
switch in place.

> -- and ps/2 mouse
> connectors are generally sucky and don't accept a mouse if it was
> plugged in after the computer booted (could be a winderz problem,
> actually...).

Everything has been USB rather than PS/2 for a year or three.
 
> Anyway, your KVM switch tells your machine that the monitor resolution
> is 1400x1050 and F11 happily obeys (thinking the resolution info is
> real).

That certainly sounds right; but why is it only doing it now, 
after having refrained during previous upgrades??

> Setting it to 1680x1050 (only, no other resolutions!) in xorg.conf
> should normally make it work. You'll need to restart X -- and for that,
> you may need to reboot the machine. If you can't reboot, you can change
> runlevel to 3 and then back to 5:
> # init 3
> [... wait a little for console to settle down ...] # init 5

Went there, did that -- some days ago. No joy.
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Re: error with yum update

2009-06-20 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:14:15 -0300, Germán wrote:

> Hi all there:
> 
> I'm getting the following error with 'yum update' in F 11:
> 
> Running rpm_check_debug
> ERROR with rpm_check_debug vs depsolve:
> python(abi) is needed by (installed) hulahop-1:0.4.6-5.fc10.i386
> Complete!
> (1, [u'Please report this error in http://yum.baseurl.org/report'])
> 
> I need some help, please.

Give some more details, please.

The hulahop package has been rebuilt for F11, "yum list hulahop"
shows 0.4.9-4.fc11.i586 in the base "fedora" Everything repository.
What do you get for that query (yum list hulahop)?

What do you get when running "rpm -q hulahop"?

Can you increase the yum debuglevel (with option -d, see "man yum")
for more verbose output when running "yum update hulahop"?

Are you aware of the "yum-utils" package and the "package-cleanup"
command? Run useful commands like "package-cleanup --cleandupes"
and "package-cleanup --problems".

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Re: Baffled by a Cable Modem

2009-06-20 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 14:33:19 -0500,
>   "Mikkel L. Ellertson"  wrote:
>> Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>>> Add a line like the following to the ifcfg-eth? file (and you may need to
>>> be running the network service as I don't know if network manager uses
>>> that info):
>>>
>>> MACADDR=DE:C1:A5:51:F1:ED
>>>
>>> Except you want to use the mac address of the windows box.
>>>
>>> You'll want the windows box off the network when you try this.
>>>
>> You will also want to comment out the HWADDR= line, or
>> you may get strange results.
> 
> It works fine for me. I like to leave that in as I have some machines with
> multiple nics and that makes sure that they consistantly get associated
> with the same interface.
> 
> What problems have you seen?
> 
From sysconfig.txt:

MACADDR=
   Set the hardware address for this device to this.
   Use of this in conjunction with HWADDR= may cause
   unintended behavior.

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Re: Yum self destructs

2009-06-20 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:41:38 +0200, David wrote:

> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 03:11:03PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:56:29 +0200, David wrote:
> > 
> > > Two days ago I did  'yum update'  on this F10 laptop.
> > > Now I find yum no longer works.  How do I recover from this disaster?
> > 
> > rpm --erase yum-plugins-tmprepo
> > 
> > >   File "/usr/lib/yum-plugins/tmprepo.py", line 179, in config_hook
> > > parser.values.tmp_repos = []
> > > AttributeError: OptionGroup instance has no attribute 'values'
> > 
> 
> That sounds like a good idea, but here's what happens:
> 
>   # ll /usr/lib/yum-plugins/tmprepo.py
>   -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7491 May 19 09:18 /usr/lib/yum-plugins/tmprepo.py
>  
>   # rpm -qf /usr/lib/yum-plugins/tmprepo.py
>   yum-plugin-tmprepo-1.1.22-1.fc10.noarch
> 
>   # rpm -e yum-plugin-tmprep
>   error: package yum-plugin-tmprep is not installed
> 
> So the offending file is there; rpm says it came from
> yum-plugin-tmprepo-1.1.22-1.fc10.noarch; but rpm thinks it isn't
> installed.
> 
> Anyone else have an idea?

Oh, please, you mistyped the package name. The package is
called "yum-plugin-tmprepo" not "yum-plugin-tmprep".

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Re: Baffled by a Cable Modem

2009-06-20 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 09:57:13 -0400,
  Tom Horsley  wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 06:30:52 -0700
> stan wrote:
> 
> > Your ISP will often know the ip address to access the web page for the
> > modem.  That is how I found out for the surfboard.  I watched the cable
> > techs when they were doing some troubleshooting on my connection.  Give
> > your isp technical help a call and ask for the modem interface.
> 
> Or better yet, get the make and model number off the modem itself
> and google for the manual online - typically far more reliable
> than any information you get from customer service :-).

Be aware that some ISPs may have custom firmware on the device. The manuals
are nice, but you need to be careful if you try to mess with things.

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Re: Baffled by a Cable Modem

2009-06-20 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 14:33:19 -0500,
  "Mikkel L. Ellertson"  wrote:
> Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> > Add a line like the following to the ifcfg-eth? file (and you may need to
> > be running the network service as I don't know if network manager uses
> > that info):
> > 
> > MACADDR=DE:C1:A5:51:F1:ED
> > 
> > Except you want to use the mac address of the windows box.
> > 
> > You'll want the windows box off the network when you try this.
> > 
> You will also want to comment out the HWADDR= line, or
> you may get strange results.

It works fine for me. I like to leave that in as I have some machines with
multiple nics and that makes sure that they consistantly get associated
with the same interface.

What problems have you seen?

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Re: Yum self destructs

2009-06-20 Thread David A. De Graaf
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 03:11:03PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:56:29 +0200, David wrote:
> 
> > Two days ago I did  'yum update'  on this F10 laptop.
> > Now I find yum no longer works.  How do I recover from this disaster?
> 
> rpm --erase yum-plugins-tmprepo
> 
> >   File "/usr/lib/yum-plugins/tmprepo.py", line 179, in config_hook
> > parser.values.tmp_repos = []
> > AttributeError: OptionGroup instance has no attribute 'values'
> 

That sounds like a good idea, but here's what happens:

  # ll /usr/lib/yum-plugins/tmprepo.py
  -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7491 May 19 09:18 /usr/lib/yum-plugins/tmprepo.py
 
  # rpm -qf /usr/lib/yum-plugins/tmprepo.py
  yum-plugin-tmprepo-1.1.22-1.fc10.noarch

  # rpm -e yum-plugin-tmprep
  error: package yum-plugin-tmprep is not installed

So the offending file is there; rpm says it came from
yum-plugin-tmprepo-1.1.22-1.fc10.noarch; but rpm thinks it isn't
installed.

Anyone else have an idea?

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Mail from "fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com" with X-RedHat-Spam-Score: -1

2009-06-20 Thread Joachim Backes

Hi,

sometimes getting emails from the Fedora Mailing list 
(fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com) with the flag:

X-RedHat-Spam-Score: -1

The most time from the same user.

Meaning?

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Re: Ultimate Fedora partition scheme ?

2009-06-20 Thread Valent Turkovic
> Uhh.. IMHO there is no sense whatsoever to create multiple LVM
> partitions on a single hard drive. You can manage with a couple small
> boot partitions, and the rest of stuff on LVM. When the partitions are
> in LVM, you can resize them whenever necessary.
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> Fedora Project Contributor
> jussileht...@fedoraproject.org


So does ext4 support online resize? Can I reduce and expand mounted
ext4 partitions?

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Re: Looking for Remix Mentor

2009-06-20 Thread Valent Turkovic
> Several copies of the same file, on each user's space, is going to waste
> drive space.  Do you really want to do that?
>
> I've done that sort of thing, in the past, with small files, by leaving
> original copies in /etc/skel/ and new user accounts get the contents of
> that copied into their user space.
>
> If they're big files, it might be best to create links to them in each
> users' space.  That way there's really just one file on the system.

Thank you for these tips, the idea about /etc/skel folder and links is
great, I'll try that out...

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Old Belkin PCMCIA G WiFi Card on F11

2009-06-20 Thread Christopher A. Williams
I just picked up a laptop from someone to load F11 on. They have an old
Belkin Wireless G Plus Notebook Card (PCMCIA version) that came with it
for WiFi access.

F11 does not see the card at all. I'm assuming this is probably some
sort of firmware issue, but I'm not completely sure.

Anyone have ideas / experience with developing the magic incantation to
get this device going?

Cheers,

Chris


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