Re: Problem with uw-imap-static (Fedora 9) on x86_64 can anybody help?

[Howard Wilkinson]

Rex,

thanks for this!

Rex Dieter wrote:

Rex Dieter wrote:

  

Howard Wilkinson wrote:



I am building a version of Asterisk for use on Fedora 9 derived systems.
The environment is patched up to the latest updates. The Asterisk
Voicemail does not work unless linked against the static library for
c-client. This worked fine on the i386 platform but is failing with the
following message on the x86_64 platform.

/usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/c-client.a(osdep.o): relocation R_X86_64_32
against `a local symbol' can not be used when making a shared object;
recompile with -fPIC


Can anybody point me to what I need to change (presumably in the uw-imap
build) to get this to work?
  

It needs (re)building with -fPIC compiler flag.  I can help fix that, but
F-9 has reached EOL, and no further updates are allowed.



  
I should have said, I have backported the F11 package to F9 and still 
get the problem!

In the meantime, try this build:
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1460664
  
Looked at this and not sure what to do! Have downloaded the binary 
packages from the x86_64 subtask and will try them, but I would normally 
rebuild here first and use the resulting packages.

-- Rex

  
To answer the question in your other response! Asterisk loads the 
voicemail modules dynamically, with the imap version this fails as the 
c-client library tries to bind back into entry points provided by the 
voicemail module and the dynamic loader barfs - I suspect that symbols 
are getting stripped to early somewhere but cannot pin it down. The 
advice from the uw-imap mailing lists is "link with the static library" 
so thats what I have done. The reasons I do not use the Fedora release 
version of asterisk are: I am making changes to the voicemail code and 
need to rebuild; I am still using the 1.4.x series of asterisk server 
and have ported that latest release onto the Fedora build; I tend to 
rebuild most things here as we have made some mods to core libraries for 
various bug fixes. (nss_ldap being one in particular)


Will let you know how I get one.

Howard.

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Re: Dell Perc 4/DC and PowerVault 220S - firmware upgrade under Fedora

[Howard Wilkinson]

Mikkel,


Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:

Howard Wilkinson wrote:
  

I have 4 Powervault 220s devices which need the firmware on the embedded
controller cards upgraded. I have download the dell Linux utilities and
tried to do the upgrade. However, this is failing - seemingly because I
have mirrored drives for the root filing systems (software mirror using
md) which get broken by the scan that the upgrade utility attempts. I
have tried to get round this by building a ramdisk with the required
utilities on it but the firmware upgrade still fails.

The systems are currently Fedora 9 based. Has anybody managed to do this
sort of upgrade using these utilities and if so HOW?

Regards, Howard.



Could you boot in the rescue mode, not mount the drives, and have
the utilities on a USB drive? Or better yet, build a bootable stick
with a live CD and the utilities?

Mikkel
  
I had thought of this and am trying to construct a suitable initrd image 
to try this out - the machine has no local mountable devices other than 
its hard discs. The root discs are on the internal controller and the PV 
units are on an additional Perc 4/DC controller. The Dell utility is (I 
think) taking the root discs out when scanning the scsi environment.


Given the hardware I will have to do a network boot (PXE) and try to run 
rescue from there, which means getting the Dell utilities into the 
rescue image.


I was hoping that somebody on the list had done some very similar and 
could tell me that this is going to work, I have the horrible feeling 
that I am going to end up with this failing to work because the Fedora 
environment is not enough like the Redhat Enterprise 3 environment the 
tools were developed for.


I will keep you apprised of any progress (or lack of)

Howard.

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Fn key doesn't work on Vostro 1500

[Konstantin Svist]

Fresh F11 install on Vostro 1500, no proprietary drivers, selinux disabled.
I can't seem to get Fn key to work. Fn+up/down is supposed to adjust
brightness, Fn+PrntScrn is SysRq, etc. None of these combinations work
right now.
I've found that I can adjust brightness from command line with
solid-powermanagement.
Also, when I tried to assign Fn+up/down key to a shortcut, I got a
message that said Qt doesn't support this key combination.


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Re: Problem with uw-imap-static (Fedora 9) on x86_64 can anybody help?

[Howard Wilkinson]

Rex,

Rex Dieter wrote:

Rex Dieter wrote:

  

Howard Wilkinson wrote:



I am building a version of Asterisk for use on Fedora 9 derived systems.
The environment is patched up to the latest updates. The Asterisk
Voicemail does not work unless linked against the static library for
c-client. This worked fine on the i386 platform but is failing with the
following message on the x86_64 platform.

/usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/c-client.a(osdep.o): relocation R_X86_64_32
against `a local symbol' can not be used when making a shared object;
recompile with -fPIC


Can anybody point me to what I need to change (presumably in the uw-imap
build) to get this to work?
  

It needs (re)building with -fPIC compiler flag.  I can help fix that, but
F-9 has reached EOL, and no further updates are allowed.



In the meantime, try this build:
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1460664

-- Rex

  
I have rebuilt using the packages from koij and get the self same error 
message. Any thoughts?


Howard.

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Re: any ETA on improved ATI drivers?

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 08 July 2009, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> On Wednesday 08 July 2009, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>> >On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:
>> >> | From: Robert P. J. Day 
>> >> |
>> >> |   i ask since a problem i was having with the radeon driver during
>> >> | the test phase -- screen suddenly going dark, literally right in the
>> >> | middle of keystrokes -- is coming back and seems to be getting more
>> >> | frequent.  never caused any breakage, just disconcerting.
>> >>
>> >> Is this https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501601 ?
>> >> I found this from
>> >>
>> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs#Display_goes_blank_brief
>> >>ly. 2C_apparently_at_random
>> >
>> >  sort of, but most of the reports i remember didn't blank the screen
>> >"for good", only briefly until you supplied some user input.  no harm,
>> >just annoying.
>> >
>> >rday
>>
>> Here, it blanks regardless of user input, damned annoying when I
>> have to ctl- alt-bksp out of x and reboot, several times a week.  A
>> restart of x will not fix it once it starts.  The tty terminals are
>> fine.
>
>  this goes back to fedora 11 preview, when it started happening for
>me and, after i whined about it, a few other people piped up and said
>it was happening to them as well.  offhand, i don't recall anyone else
>claiming that it was fatal like in your case -- only annoying.  but
>that's just working from memory.
>
>  i originally thought it was the radeon driver since that was having
>other issues, but others since then seem convinced it's the power
>manager, and i'm inclined to agree.
>
>rday

TBT, I can't tell if it is shutting down the backlight or not here.  This 
Samsung SynchMaster 205bw has a quite wide contrast ratio, and I usually have 
enough overhead lights on that I couldn't tell the difference.  Next time it 
happens, I'll shut them off & see if I can tell if the backlight is also being 
killed.

I can run this monitor on either cable style, and thought for a bit that maybe 
it was related to that, but I spent an hour switching things around a couple 
of months ago and found it was effecting both the analog and the digital 
outputs on this card, an HD2400 Pro. rv610 chipset.
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Re: new disk layout

[Roberto Ragusa]

Bill Davidsen wrote:
> Roberto Ragusa wrote:
>> The decision to not save buffers and cached is debatable. Even if
>> it is memory which can be read again from the disk, it is MUCH
>> faster to read from the swap image in a contiguous fashion, than
>> to seek everywhere for minutes after a suspend.
> 
> That argument makes no sense for buffers, you don't want to compress
> them, write them to swap, read them in, decompress them, all so you can
> then write them to the filesystem anyway.

Buffers are not always dirty data.
After a "sync" command you don't see them drop to zero.
Even if they were dirty data, it can make sense to store them
sequentially and compressed, instead of writing them in the right
places (which could involve many many seeks). I'm perfectly aware
that they will have to be properly written after resuming, but
if I say "hibernate" I want the machine to hibernate as soon as
possible, not to force the execution of any pending activity.
I would run "sync" before hibernation, if I wanted to write
dirty buffers (in any case, suspending scripts often do "sync"
themselves before starting).

>> That is one of the really good things which only tuxonice has.
> 
> I hope you're remembering that wrong, if it's going to be written to
> disk there's no benefit to doing a lot now so you can slow the restore
> and then do all that i/o anyway. You can make the argument for cache, at
> least you might save so i/o after resume.

I rechecked on the net just now, and tuxonice does indeed
save buffers and cached by default.

>> I hope to see it finally merged.
> 
> Don't hold your breath, for years I kept pointing out issue with suspend
> and being told "stop whining and send patches," and I would say "the
> patch is suspend2." It's been renamed, but still mostly not merged, and
> new bugs have been added.

I used suspend2/tuxonice a few years ago and found it really good.
The official suspend stuff never really worked.
Nowadays I'm only using suspend-to-ram (damned Nvidia proprietary crap).

>>> so it's really hard to guess how much
>>> swap will actually be used.
>>
>> But it is really simple to decide the size of the swap
>> partition: use a big one.
>> There is really no disadvantage to have a bigger one.
>>
>> 2 GB RAM? -> 5 GB swap
>>
>> more than enough to have 1gb swap used and suspend everything;
>> probably large enough even when you upgrade to 4 GB RAM.
>>
>> I don't think anyone really cares about 2 or 3 GB of disk
>> on a modern machine (having 2 GB of RAM makes it modern).
>>
> Haven't done much embedded work? Think 512M RAM, 2GB non-volatile
> storage, maybe another bit of EAPROM for firmware. That's not Fedora,
> but it definitely is suspend/resume.

But this thread was about someone with a 64 bit machine and a
new 1TB disk. 2GB "wasted" on a 1000GB disk is not a big issue.

When you run Linux on a toaster, you decide differently. :-)

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Re: Setting up HP laserjets (1012) to work with Fedora 11

[Tim Waugh]

On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 06:11 +0200, gil...@altern.org wrote:
> Then, I
> tried to print and I had a message saying that the printer wasn't
> connected.

This is most likely one of these bugs:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=505647
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=484130

> but received the message that the HPIJS driver was not
> available. (Note that I tried the Gutenprint driver when the printer
> wasn't set to use HAL: it didn't work.)
> 
> I installed hpijs, now everything is fine.

This should have been done automatically; see this bug:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=509177

The fix is in FEDORA-2009-6777, pending a push to updates-testing.

> I don't remember ever being asked to use HAL with another distro: it was
> always put to contribution, I suppose. So, there must be a way around
> this. Most newbies will never consider an option that isn't selected by
> default for a printer.

I hope to fix some of the hal-cups-utils bugs later this week.  In the
mean time, a work-around that often lets the printer work again is to
unplug it and plug it in again.

Tim.
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Re: Worried about having been hacked

[James Allsopp]

Hi,
I've checked this out and that was happening, but I've just had this
reported by rkhunter;

Warning: Package manager verification has failed:
 File: /bin/rpm
 Try running the command 'prelink /bin/rpm' to resolve
dependency errors.
 The file hash value has changed
 The file size has changed
Warning: Package manager verification has failed:
 File: /usr/bin/passwd
 Try running the command 'prelink /usr/bin/passwd' to resolve
dependency errors.
 The file hash value has changed
 The file size has changed
Warning: Package manager verification has failed:
 File: /usr/bin/perl
 Try running the command 'prelink /usr/bin/perl' to resolve
dependency errors.
 The file hash value has changed
 The file size has changed
Warning: Package manager verification has failed:
 File: /sbin/chkconfig
 Try running the command 'prelink /sbin/chkconfig' to resolve
dependency errors.
 The file hash value has changed
 The file size has changed

I'm not entirely sure what these errors mean though, have these files
been trojan'ed.

Best regards
James

Rick Stevens wrote:
> Arthur Pemberton wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 12:01 PM, James
>> Allsopp wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I've a Fedora core 10 system which spends a lot of the time connected
>>> directly to the internet, with a static ip. The only external ports open
>>> are 80 and 22. SSH only allows access to one non-root user via an rsa
>>> key. I'm using an IPtables script from
>>>
 http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/iptables-tutorial.html
>>> However, I normally get my logs e-mailed to an external account and
>>> they're not getting to me. I'm not sure if they've not been sent or my
>>> logs are being altered and hidden. How do I diagnose this problem, and
>>> in general look for security incursions. I'm thinking of leaving
>>> wireshark running on the external ethernet card and see what happens.
>>>
>>> Thanks, any advice much appreciated.
>>> Jim
>>>
>>
>> Have you checked your Spam folder on the receiving email account?
>> Email sent through the mail command tends to get rated very poorly by
>> spam filters.
> 
> You might check the /var/spool/clientmqueue directory to see if the
> mail's been spooled but not sent out and look at the /var/log/maillog
> file to verify the mail was indeed sent to the external account.
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Re: Worried about having been hacked

[Frank Murphy]

On 08/07/09 10:59, James Allsopp wrote:
> Hi,
> I've checked this out and that was happening, but I've just had this
> reported by rkhunter;
> 
>


> Warning: Package manager verification has failed:
>  File: /sbin/chkconfig
>  Try running the command 'prelink /sbin/chkconfig' to resolve
> dependency errors.
>  The file hash value has changed
>  The file size has changed
> 
> I'm not entirely sure what these errors mean though, have these files
> been trojan'ed.
> 

Have you updated?
If yes, that's where you get the change.
Check those updates against your yum logs.
It your not sure what update to check against:
yum whatprovides */sbin/chkconfig

For above.

Regards,

Frank

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Re: Worried about having been hacked

[Manuel Aróstegui]

El mié, 08-07-2009 a las 10:59 +0100, James Allsopp escribió:
> Hi,
> I've checked this out and that was happening, but I've just had this
> reported by rkhunter;
> 
> Warning: Package manager verification has failed:
>  File: /bin/rpm
>  Try running the command 'prelink /bin/rpm' to resolve
> dependency errors.
>  The file hash value has changed
>  The file size has changed
> Warning: Package manager verification has failed:
>  File: /usr/bin/passwd
>  Try running the command 'prelink /usr/bin/passwd' to resolve
> dependency errors.
>  The file hash value has changed
>  The file size has changed
> Warning: Package manager verification has failed:
>  File: /usr/bin/perl
>  Try running the command 'prelink /usr/bin/perl' to resolve
> dependency errors.
>  The file hash value has changed
>  The file size has changed
> Warning: Package manager verification has failed:
>  File: /sbin/chkconfig
>  Try running the command 'prelink /sbin/chkconfig' to resolve
> dependency errors.
>  The file hash value has changed
>  The file size has changed
> 
> I'm not entirely sure what these errors mean though, have these files
> been trojan'ed.

If you updated your system that's perfectly normal.
Anything strange in /etc/passwd? Any user with uid 0 apart from root?

You might want to take a look at the "last" and make sure there's
nothing unusual there, strange hours, strange IPs...

Manuel.
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Re: Worried about having been hacked

[James Allsopp]

Hi,
I've checked all the files you asked me to. The following is the files
from the yum whatprovides followed by that grepped on /var/log/

chkconfig-1.3.38-1.i386
Mar 26 00:53:01 Updated: chkconfig-1.3.38-1.i386
rpm-4.6.1-1.fc10.i386
Jun 10 08:34:24 Updated: rpm-4.6.1-1.fc10.i386
passwd-0.75-2.fc9.i386
never been updated.
perl-5.10.0-68.fc10.i386
Apr 22 16:54:07 Updated: 4:perl-5.10.0-68.fc10.i386


This machine was installed about August 2008. The /usr/bin/passwd is
shown in red, which I think indicates a broken symbolic link?

[r...@87-194-141-15 ~]# which chkconfig
/sbin/chkconfig
[r...@87-194-141-15 ~]# ls -l /sbin/chkconfig
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 28000 2008-10-29 15:35 /sbin/chkconfig

[r...@87-194-141-15 ~]# which passwd
/usr/bin/passwd
[r...@87-194-141-15 ~]# ls -l /usr/bin/passwd
-rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 25700 2008-04-08 14:48 /usr/bin/passwd

[r...@87-194-141-15 ~]# which rpm
/bin/rpm
[r...@87-194-141-15 ~]# ls -l /bin/rpm
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 23240 2009-05-18 12:26 /bin/rpm

[r...@87-194-141-15 ~]# which perl
/usr/bin/perl
[r...@87-194-141-15 ~]# ls -l /usr/bin/perl
-rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 8140 2009-04-14 12:26 /usr/bin/perl



None of these files seems new, but could they have been altered? This is
the first time I've seen this in rkhunter.
Jim




Frank Murphy wrote:
> On 08/07/09 10:59, James Allsopp wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I've checked this out and that was happening, but I've just had this
>> reported by rkhunter;
>>
>>
> 
> 
>> Warning: Package manager verification has failed:
>>  File: /sbin/chkconfig
>>  Try running the command 'prelink /sbin/chkconfig' to resolve
>> dependency errors.
>>  The file hash value has changed
>>  The file size has changed
>>
>> I'm not entirely sure what these errors mean though, have these files
>> been trojan'ed.
>>
> 
> Have you updated?
> If yes, that's where you get the change.
> Check those updates against your yum logs.
> It your not sure what update to check against:
> yum whatprovides */sbin/chkconfig
> 
> For above.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Frank
> 

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Samsung Laser printers and F10/11?

[Mike Cloaked]

Does anyone know if the following two printers work well (and preferably
without the need for additional drivers) in F10 and F11?

Samsung CLP 310N
and
SCX-4500W

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Worried about having been hacked

[Fernando Cassia]

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:08 AM, James Allsopp
wrote:

> Hi,
> I've checked all the files you asked me to.


This is also good reading...

Intrusion Detection in Linux
http://www.nic.com/~dave/SecurityAdminGuide/SecurityAdminGuide-7.html

FC
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Evolution maximum pst size

[Adeel Akbar]

Hi, 

I have used evolution, and i have two queries;

1. maximum size of stored data (pst file size in evolution)
2. How I join/manage multiple PST's in evolution.

can anyone help me out.

Thanks & Regards

Adeel Akbar
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Re: Worried about having been hacked

[John Horne]

On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 12:08 +0100, James Allsopp wrote:
> Hi,
> I've checked all the files you asked me to. The following is the files
> from the yum whatprovides followed by that grepped on /var/log/
> 
> chkconfig-1.3.38-1.i386
> Mar 26 00:53:01 Updated: chkconfig-1.3.38-1.i386
> rpm-4.6.1-1.fc10.i386
> Jun 10 08:34:24 Updated: rpm-4.6.1-1.fc10.i386
> passwd-0.75-2.fc9.i386
> never been updated.
> perl-5.10.0-68.fc10.i386
> Apr 22 16:54:07 Updated: 4:perl-5.10.0-68.fc10.i386
> 
> 
> This machine was installed about August 2008. The /usr/bin/passwd is
> shown in red, which I think indicates a broken symbolic link?
> 
> [r...@87-194-141-15 ~]# which chkconfig
> /sbin/chkconfig
> [r...@87-194-141-15 ~]# ls -l /sbin/chkconfig
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 28000 2008-10-29 15:35 /sbin/chkconfig
> 
> [r...@87-194-141-15 ~]# which passwd
> /usr/bin/passwd
> [r...@87-194-141-15 ~]# ls -l /usr/bin/passwd
> -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 25700 2008-04-08 14:48 /usr/bin/passwd
> 
> [r...@87-194-141-15 ~]# which rpm
> /bin/rpm
> [r...@87-194-141-15 ~]# ls -l /bin/rpm
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 23240 2009-05-18 12:26 /bin/rpm
> 
> [r...@87-194-141-15 ~]# which perl
> /usr/bin/perl
> [r...@87-194-141-15 ~]# ls -l /usr/bin/perl
> -rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 8140 2009-04-14 12:26 /usr/bin/perl
> 
> 
> 
> None of these files seems new, but could they have been altered? This
> is the first time I've seen this in rkhunter.
> Jim
> 
The message means that some part of the system - libraries probably -
have been changed and hence the prelinking of commands (passwd,
chkconfig etc) now requires to be redone. Hence you get the warning
message, and an advisory to run the 'prelink' command.

Your system will, at some time, automatically prelink the relevant
commands/libraries, but if you want to avoid the rkhunter warnings until
then, then run the suggested prelink commands.

Run the shown prelink comands and then run:

  rkhunter --enable properties

The warnings should have gone.



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Re: Evolution maximum pst size

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 18:25 +0600, Adeel Akbar wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> I have used evolution, and i have two queries;
> 
> 1. maximum size of stored data (pst file size in evolution)
> 2. How I join/manage multiple PST's in evolution.
> 
> can anyone help me out.

Evolution doesn't use .pst files. It's not Outlook.

poc

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VirtualBox problem

[alan duval]

Chris Thielen wrote,


On Tue, 2009-07-07 at 20:18 +1000, alan duval wrote:
> > How does one access a parallel connected printer from WIN XP as a
> > virtual machine?

> If you're using (forgive me, I forget the exact name) 
> "proper" (Bridged)
> networking, e.g. where the virtual machine has a real IP on your
> network, you could set up printer sharing on the host via Samba and 
> then
> have the virtual machine connect to the host machine's printer share
> and print that way.

> There may be a more elegant way to do it though.



> --- if the printer is set up in cups (which I think the
> graphical Fedora printer setup stuff uses), you can fairly easily add
> it to Samba. Somewhat bad instructions:

http://www.computing.net/answers/linux/printer-on-fedora-samba-share/26724.html 
.

> Thinking about it, this might be the only solution if USB pass-thru 
> and parallel pass-thru are not available.


I am using a desktop computer at home and don't have a network. I have
installed VirtualBox so that I can run WIN XP occasionally. 
As WIN XP is a virtual machine can it be regarded as on a network?
I have no experience of setting up a network or of setting up Samba so
what would be the best way to go about this?

Alan



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Re: VirtualBox problem

[Manuel Aróstegui]

El jue, 09-07-2009 a las 09:07 +1000, alan duval escribió:
> I am using a desktop computer at home and don't have a network. I have
> installed VirtualBox so that I can run WIN XP occasionally. 
> As WIN XP is a virtual machine can it be regarded as on a network?
> I have no experience of setting up a network or of setting up Samba so
> what would be the best way to go about this?
> 
> Alan

I haven't used VirtualBox, but in VMWare you have the option to set up
the guests' network as NAT with the host, so you need no network to
communicate the host with the guest.
I don't know though, if VirtualBox has something like that, but I guess
it does.

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Re: Samsung Laser printers and F10/11?

[Robert P. J. Day]

On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Mike Cloaked wrote:

> Does anyone know if the following two printers work well (and
> preferably without the need for additional drivers) in F10 and F11?
>
> Samsung CLP 310N
> and
> SCX-4500W

  i've yet to get my samsung scx-4826fn running under f11.  worked
fine under f10.  if anyone has a recipe, i am *so* willing to test it.
as it is, after i configure and try to print a test page, i get:

There was an error during the CUPS operation:
'client-error-document-format-not-supported'.

is that what you're seeing?

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lirc 0.8.5 not compatible with 2.6.27 kernel (WAS: Update to lirc 0.8.5 breaks my remote)

[Richard Shaw]

On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Richard Shaw wrote:
> I wanted to see if anyone else was affected by this. I just updated my
> Fedora 10 Myth box (x86_64) and my lirc got updated to 0.8.5 and now my
> remote doesn't work. This configuration has worked flawlessly since Fedora
> 8. I'm now getting some output from dmesg I don't remember seeing before:
>
> [r...@calvin ~]# dmesg | grep lirc
> lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, major 61
> lirc_serial: auto-detected active low receiver
> lirc_dev: lirc_register_plugin: sample_rate: 0
> lirc_serial: ignoring spike: 1 1 4a3cdfee 4a3cdfee 9b369 9b335
> lirc_serial: ignoring spike: 1 1 4a3cdfef 4a3cdfef 9b36b 9b334
> lirc_serial: ignoring spike: 1 1 4a3cdff0 4a3cdff0 9b36d 9b338
> lirc_serial: ignoring spike: 1 1 4a3cdff1 4a3cdff1 9b367 9b32f
> lirc_serial: ignoring spike: 1 1 4a3cdff2 4a3cdff2 9b365 9b330
> lirc_serial: ignoring spike: 1 1 4a3ce012 4a3ce012 3a15 39e7
> lirc_serial: ignoring spike: 1 1 4a3ce015 4a3ce015 39a6 396d
> lirc_serial: ignoring spike: 1 1 4a3ce017 4a3ce017 3991 3963
> lirc_serial: ignoring spike: 1 1 4a3ce018 4a3ce018 39f7 39cd
> lirc_serial: ignoring spike: 1 1 4a3ce026 4a3ce026 68aa7 68a79
> lirc_serial: ignoring spike: 1 1 4a3ce028 4a3ce028 68aac 68a7e
> lirc_serial: ignoring spike: 1 1 4a3ce029 4a3ce029 68aca 68a93
>
>
> Anyone have any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Richard

I had to update my F10 myth box to the 2.6.29 kernel in
updates-testing to get lirc 0.8.5 to work. Are there any plans for a
2.6.29 kernel to make it out of updates-testing or did I effectively
break my kernel updates?

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Uptate: F11 x86_64 problems -- my disks are getting locked out

[Rich Mahn]

> On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:15:58 -0400
> Rich Mahn  wrote:
> 
> > I did a clean install of F11 x86_64 on a system that also has F10
> > i686, F8, and others for a multi-boot situation.  F11 is working
> > fairly well except for one problem.  I can't mount one of my disks.

> snip

> > Does anybody have any ideas what might be causing this and how to fix
> > it?
> > 

> Run blkid as root and make sure all your disks have the correct UUID
> in /etc/fstab.  You should be mounting them using UUID instead of
> device name or label.

Thanks for telling me about blkid.  A real useful tool.

> Here is a sample from my fstab:

> #/dev/sda1
> UUID=c6e94dd5-0cc3-4940-ac15-cb0ea856fd9a /boot ext3 defaults  1 2 
> #/dev/sda5 
> UUID=c94b5547-e098-45ca-8776-cce0e0cd6bac / ext4 defaults  1 1

> Maybe you are already doing this. 

> Compare the F10 and F11 /etc/fstab for these disks.  Make sure the
> mount points are unique.

> You could check for bugs like this in bugzilla.

> http://bugzilla.redhat.com

Since I mount these drives manually, it's not the fstab--at least
I don't think it is.

I suspect udev or something like that.  The kernel recognizes
the disks and paritions okay, but the device nodes for the partitions
are never created.  They can be forced by appropriate fdisk/hdparm
or whatever that re-reads the label.  But even then you can't mount
them.  You can, however, dumpe2fs, dd, and many other useful things.

I think I started to run parted on the disk and aborted when I noticed
I had used the wrong disk.  In the current state, F10 is fine and F11
isn't.  I tried to install F11 i686 to see if it was an X86_64 problem,
but now I can't install F11.  It crashes when it tries to find disks.
It looks like maybe it thinks the disk in question is part of a raid
or something.

I can get rid of the problem by zeroing the disk.  I'm going to see if
I can create the problem with parted.

Rich


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Re: Samsung Laser printers and F10/11?

[Mike Cloaked]

Robert P. J. Day-2 wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Mike Cloaked wrote:
> 
>> Does anyone know if the following two printers work well (and
>> preferably without the need for additional drivers) in F10 and F11?
>>
>> Samsung CLP 310N
>> and
>> SCX-4500W
> 
>   i've yet to get my samsung scx-4826fn running under f11.  worked
> fine under f10.  if anyone has a recipe, i am *so* willing to test it.
> as it is, after i configure and try to print a test page, i get:
> 
> There was an error during the CUPS operation:
> 'client-error-document-format-not-supported'.
> 
> is that what you're seeing?
> 
> rday
> 
> 

In my case I am trying to decide on one which won't have an install and run
issue so I wanted to know if either would be problematic before buying one!
Hence my question - maybe Tim Waugh will chime in as he seems to be the
collective knowledgebase on printing matters...
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Re: Evolution maximum pst size

[NoSpaze]

Am Mittwoch, den 08.07.2009, 18:25 +0600 schrieb Adeel Akbar:
> Hi, 
> 
> I have used evolution, and i have two queries;
> 
> 1. maximum size of stored data (pst file size in evolution)
> 2. How I join/manage multiple PST's in evolution.
> 
> can anyone help me out.

PST file types are Outlook's. Evolution uses plain text files to store
messages in the same format they are received.

joining: cat mailbox1 mailbox2 > bigmailbox
managing: mutt -f bigmailbox

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Re: [fedora-list] Uptate: F11 x86_64 problems -- my disks are getting locked out

[Rich Mahn]

> > > On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:15:58 -0400
> > > Rich Mahn  wrote:
> > > 
> > > I did a clean install of F11 x86_64 on a system that also has F10
> > > i686, F8, and others for a multi-boot situation.  F11 is working
> > > fairly well except for one problem.  I can't mount one of my disks.

> > snip

> > > Does anybody have any ideas what might be causing this and how to fix
> > > it?
> > > 

> > Run blkid as root and make sure all your disks have the correct UUID
> > in /etc/fstab.  You should be mounting them using UUID instead of
> > device name or label.

> Thanks for telling me about blkid.  A real useful tool.

> > Here is a sample from my fstab:

> > #/dev/sda1
> > UUID=c6e94dd5-0cc3-4940-ac15-cb0ea856fd9a /boot ext3 defaults  1 2 
> > #/dev/sda5 
> > UUID=c94b5547-e098-45ca-8776-cce0e0cd6bac / ext4 defaults  1 1

> > Maybe you are already doing this. 

> > Compare the F10 and F11 /etc/fstab for these disks.  Make sure the
> > mount points are unique.

> > You could check for bugs like this in bugzilla.

> > http://bugzilla.redhat.com

> Since I mount these drives manually, it's not the fstab--at least
> I don't think it is.

> I suspect udev or something like that.  The kernel recognizes
> the disks and paritions okay, but the device nodes for the partitions
> are never created.  They can be forced by appropriate fdisk/hdparm
> or whatever that re-reads the label.  But even then you can't mount
> them.  You can, however, dumpe2fs, dd, and many other useful things.

> I think I started to run parted on the disk and aborted when I noticed
> I had used the wrong disk.  In the current state, F10 is fine and F11
> isn't.  I tried to install F11 i686 to see if it was an X86_64 problem,
> but now I can't install F11.  It crashes when it tries to find disks.
> It looks like maybe it thinks the disk in question is part of a raid
> or something.

> I can get rid of the problem by zeroing the disk.  I'm going to see if
> I can create the problem with parted.

I just found something that probably indicates the problem to those who
can understand these things.  The command

 udevadm info --query=env --name=/dev/sdc

has these extra line that a similar query on any other disk does not have:

ID_FS_USAGE=raid
ID_FS_TYPE=ddf_raid_member
ID_FS_VERSION=02.00.00
ID_FS_UUID=_$
ID_FS_UUID_ENC=\x20\x20\x20\x20\xfa\x24\x0c


Anybody have any idea what this means?

Rich

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Re: VirtualBox problem

[Christopher Thielen]

VirtualBox has an "internal network" option that will create a private
network containing your computer (host) and the Windows XP virtual
machine (guest), avoiding the need for any real network.

If you can print from GNOME or KDE, your printer is already set up with
cups most likely. Samba is configured by default to share cups printers
with the Windows standard 'printers' share. Make sure Samba is installed
and started, then browse the workgroups on the network from the Windows
XP host. You should see the Linux box (sometimes found in the MYGROUP
workgroup ... it depends on what's written in /etc/smb.conf) and be able
to add it's printers. If it asks you to authenticate to add the printer,
be sure to add a user and enable that user in Samba, e.g. smbpasswd -a
username, smbpasswd -e username.

There are some specifics missing here but I hope that gets you started.

On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 09:07 +1000, alan duval wrote:
> Chris Thielen wrote,
> 
> 
> On Tue, 2009-07-07 at 20:18 +1000, alan duval wrote:
> > > How does one access a parallel connected printer from WIN XP as a
> > > virtual machine?
> 
> > If you're using (forgive me, I forget the exact name) 
> > "proper" (Bridged)
> > networking, e.g. where the virtual machine has a real IP on your
> > network, you could set up printer sharing on the host via Samba and 
> > then
> > have the virtual machine connect to the host machine's printer share
> > and print that way.
> 
> > There may be a more elegant way to do it though.
> 
> 
> 
> > --- if the printer is set up in cups (which I think the
> > graphical Fedora printer setup stuff uses), you can fairly easily add
> > it to Samba. Somewhat bad instructions:
> 
> http://www.computing.net/answers/linux/printer-on-fedora-samba-share/26724.html
>  .
> 
> > Thinking about it, this might be the only solution if USB pass-thru 
> > and parallel pass-thru are not available.
> 
> 
> I am using a desktop computer at home and don't have a network. I have
> installed VirtualBox so that I can run WIN XP occasionally. 
> As WIN XP is a virtual machine can it be regarded as on a network?
> I have no experience of setting up a network or of setting up Samba so
> what would be the best way to go about this?
> 
> Alan
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Fedora 11 UTF-8 and fonts (clearcase and citrix ICAClient, and maybe motif in general?)

[Richard Shaw]

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Andy Wang wrote:
> Hi all,
> I posted this on fedoraforum.org when I was testing the preview F11
> and just did again to see if anyone using F11 release has any ideas,
> but I thought I'd try the mailing list as well:
>
> *** post from fedora forum ***
> The Citrix ICAClient and clearcase gui tools don't launch properly. I
> get the following:
> Warning:
> Name: FONTLIST_DEFAULT_TAG_STRING
> Class: XmRendition
> Conversion failed. Cannot load font.
>
> on the console in a nice steady stream. Citrix's wfica just fails to
> launch, and the wfcmgr is missing all fonts. Clearcase gui tools
> complains that it's unable to create a text drawing font set and the
> tools exit.
>
> I can workaround the problem two ways, one LANG=C instead of
> en_US.UTF-8 or removing the cjk fonts, specifically, the following two
> packages:
> cjkuni-uming-fonts-0.2.20080216.1-23.fc11.noarch
> cjkuni-fonts-common-0.2.20080216.1-23.fc11.noarch
>
> Any ideas on other solutions for this problem?
> *** end post from fedora forum ***
>
> Does anyone have any thoughts about this, the clearcase gui tools and
> ICAClient are the only two motif applications I have readily available
> to test (wish those would just move off motif, but I'm doubting that
> IBM will do anythign with clearcase anytime remotely soon).
>
> Just looking for general ideas on how to troubleshoot this.  I don't
> understand font loading anymore, especially with the UTF-8 encoding
> stuff, so I don't know why LANG=C would actually allow this to work.
> Can anyone provide a short primer on how that works, or let me know
> what's a good tool to try to debug font loading and find out what
> fonts it either can't load, or can't find?
>
> Thanks,
> Andy

Thanks for figuring this out! I was about to go crazy. One question
though, how the heck did you figure out it was those two packages
causing the problems?

Richard

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Re: [ale] [SOLVED] Unable to Run Citrix x86_64, missing libXaw.so.7

[Richard Shaw]

On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Marc Ferguson wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Jim Kinney  wrote:
>>
>> The 32/64 bit dual lib shuffle. I have found that most closed-source,
>> commercial products are barely usable on 64-bit Linux because of the
>> hard coded lib needs. Sometimes a symlink to the 64-bit lib works.
>> Sometimes it causes a crash.
>>
>> yum install libXaw.i386 works if the base/updates.repo is tweaked to
>> include an additional i386 arch. Basically block copy the original one
>> and replace $arch with i386 in the block.
>>
>> 2009/1/26 Marc Ferguson :
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I'm running Fedora 10 x86_64 and I'm trying to run Citrix Presentation
>> > server Clients for UNIX Version 10.x.  When I try to run it, it
>> > basically
>> > says I'm missing libXaw.so.7.  I found the solution, but I wanted to
>> > post
>> > this for reference.  Basically you need to install libXaw.i386 even
>> > though
>> > libXaw.x86_64 is present.
>> >
>> > [m...@unicron ICAClient]$ ldd wfica
>> >     linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0x0011)
>> >     libXaw.so.7 => not found
>> >     libXt.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x0012a000)
>> >     libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x06b6e000)
>> >     libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x0036f000)
>> >     libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x00376000)
>> >     libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x001f9000)
>> >     libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x00184000)
>> >     libSM.so.6 => /usr/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x00df5000)
>> >     libICE.so.6 => /usr/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x00546000)
>> >     libxcb-xlib.so.0 => /usr/lib/libxcb-xlib.so.0 (0x001b)
>> >     libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/libxcb.so.1 (0x00b2a000)
>> >     /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x001d4000)
>> >     libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0x00195000)
>> >     libuuid.so.1 => /lib/libuuid.so.1 (0x0054)
>> >     libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x001b9000)
>> >
>> > I then do a search to see if I have this library installed.
>> >
>> > [m...@unicron ICAClient]$ sudo yum install libXaw
>> > Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
>> > Setting up Install Process
>> > Parsing package install arguments
>> > Package libXaw-1.0.4-3.fc10.x86_64 already installed and latest version
>> > Nothing to do
>> >
>> >
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>> >
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>> >
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>> > F.
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>
> I may have spoken too soon.  Interesting issue though.  By installing the
> correct i386 library I was able to run the Citrix client via my web browser
> - I am unable though to run the client by itself.  If I run
> /usr/lib/ICAClient/wfcmgr - I get this error:
>
> /usr/lib/ICAClient/wfcmgr: error while loading shared libraries: libXm.so.3:
> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>
> So after some poking around, I found that OpenMotif is supposed to have
> libXm.so.3 library.  I install both i386 and x86_64 packages from
> ftp://ftp.ics.com/openmotif/2.3/2.3.1/, which I got that link directly from
> http://www.motifzone.net/.
>
> I tried to run it after that and got the same error.  So; I uninstalled then
> reinstalled the Citrix client, but I'm still getting the same issue.  I've
> tried 4 different version of openmotif and I'm still getting the same error.
>
> openmotif-2.2.3-2.i386.rpm
> openmotif-devel-2.2.3-2.i386.rpm
> openmotif-2.2.4-0.1.i386.rpm
> openmotif-devel-2.2.4-0.1.i386.rpm
> openmotif-2.3.1-1.fc9.i386.rpm
> openmotif-devel-2.3.1-1.fc9.i386.rpm
> openmotif-2.3.1-1.fc9.x86_64.rpm
> openmotif-devel-2.3.1-1.fc9.x86_64.rpm
>
> Please help me understand this library issue.  Thanks.
>
> --
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Maybe too late but I just got mine working so I'll reply anyway. The
version of openmotif you installed probably supplies libXm.so.4 not
libXm.so.3. I installed version 11 of the icaclient which uses
libXm.so.4 so I didn't have that problem.

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Upgrade from FC6 to FC11

[Excalibur Xcalibur]

Dear All, I've an old server running FC6. Is there a neat way to
upgrade (Not clean install) from FC6 to FC11 without messing up things and
keeping my settings and data?

Thanks.

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md5 sum mismatch on dovecot src rpm package from fedora 11 updates

[Ezequiel Alfíe]

Hello.

I'm trying to compile fedora 11's latest dovecot package on Centos 5.3
and I get "cpio md5 sum mismatch". However running rpm -K goes fine.

Here's what I ran:

[buil...@testing SRPMS]$ wget -q
http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/fedora/linux/updates/11/SRPMS/dovecot-1.2-0.rc6.1.fc11.src.rpm
[buil...@testing SRPMS]$ rpm -Kv dovecot-1.2-0.rc6.1.fc11.src.rpm
dovecot-1.2-0.rc6.1.fc11.src.rpm:
Header V3 RSA/SHA256 signature: OK, key ID d22e77f2
Header SHA1 digest: OK (ee446281fb3ee51891bf182d15024a99a8875660)
V3 RSA/SHA256 signature: OK, key ID d22e77f2
MD5 digest: OK (05a317070fa439dd3b2b9ee1d4e922a8)
[buil...@testing SRPMS]$ rpm -iv dovecot-1.2-0.rc6.1.fc11.src.rpm
dovecot-1.2-0.rc6.1.fc11
warning: user mockbuild does not exist - using root
warning: group mockbuild does not exist - using root
error: unpacking of archive failed on file
/home/builder/redhat/SOURCES/dovecot-1.0.beta2-mkcert-permissions.patch;4a54c57c:
cpio: MD5 sum mismatch


Thanks everyone!

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Re: md5 sum mismatch on dovecot src rpm package from fedora 11 updates

[Frank Cox]

On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:13:58 -0300
Ezequiel Alfíe wrote:

> I'm trying to compile fedora 11's latest dovecot package on Centos 5.3
> and I get "cpio md5 sum mismatch". However running rpm -K goes fine.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/StrongerHashes

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Re: md5 sum mismatch on dovecot src rpm package from fedora 11 updates

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 07/08/2009 09:43 PM, Ezequiel Alfíe wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> I'm trying to compile fedora 11's latest dovecot package on Centos 5.3
> and I get "cpio md5 sum mismatch". However running rpm -K goes fine.

You need to switch the hash.

http://rpm.org/wiki/Releases/4.6.0#Strongfilechecksums

SHA256 is used by Fedora and EL 5 still uses MD5

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Re: md5 sum mismatch on dovecot src rpm package from fedora 11 updates

[Ezequiel Alfíe]

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Frank Cox wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:13:58 -0300
> Ezequiel Alfíe wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to compile fedora 11's latest dovecot package on Centos 5.3
>> and I get "cpio md5 sum mismatch". However running rpm -K goes fine.
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/StrongerHashes

Thanks Frank.

I noticed I can do rpm -i --nomd5

Can I "manually" check the sha256 files?
Is it possible to extract the sha256 sums from the rpm (using Centos)?



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Re: Upgrade from FC6 to FC11

[Craig White]

On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 12:11 -0400, Excalibur Xcalibur wrote:
> Dear All,
>  I've an old server running FC6. Is there a neat way to
> upgrade (Not clean install) from FC6 to FC11 without messing up things
> and keeping my settings and data? 

make a very good back up of the settings and data (/home, /etc, /var at
the very least).

Take you best shot at upgrading and deal with the carnage...it's going
to take a bunch of work to clean it up...there's been a number of
changes.

You might consider upgrading it with CentOS 5.3 and choosing
'upgradeany' as an option.

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Re: Dell Perc 4/DC and PowerVault 220S - firmware upgrade under Fedora

[Howard Wilkinson]

Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:

Howard Wilkinson wrote:
  

I have 4 Powervault 220s devices which need the firmware on the embedded
controller cards upgraded. I have download the dell Linux utilities and
tried to do the upgrade. However, this is failing - seemingly because I
have mirrored drives for the root filing systems (software mirror using
md) which get broken by the scan that the upgrade utility attempts. I
have tried to get round this by building a ramdisk with the required
utilities on it but the firmware upgrade still fails.

The systems are currently Fedora 9 based. Has anybody managed to do this
sort of upgrade using these utilities and if so HOW?

Regards, Howard.



Could you boot in the rescue mode, not mount the drives, and have
the utilities on a USB drive? Or better yet, build a bootable stick
with a live CD and the utilities?

Mikkel
  
Well I built a live CD and ran the Dell utility and it did nothing! No 
failure but no inventory ... so I think this may be a problem !


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Re: New to Fedora, [SOLVED] Network Issues.

[Mike Adolf]

It seems that there were two problems. Samba Server
Settings/Authentication Mode was set to User and should have been Share.
The second problem was selinux was denying access on my shares and
selinux's suggested fix didn't work because the shares were on an ntsf
volume. I disabled selinux and now everything works, include pinging.  I
have since found a way to enable selinux to work with ntfs volumnes -
buts thats for another day.

Thanks to all who replied.
Mike



On Mon, 2009-07-06 at 12:20 -0600, Mike Adolf wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> I have just installed fedora 11 but have been a linux users for several
> years (Ubuntu).  I was able to get everything I needed running with out
> any problems until I got to sharing Disks/Folders with Windows. I have
> my Linux box, 2 Windows machines, and a printer on a LAN configured with
> a single router. The network settings on the PCs have not been change in
> a long while and everything use to work.
> 
> I configured Samba to share a backup disk to everyone using the Samba
> Server Configuration tool GUI. nmb and smb are both running.
> 
> When I go to "Places-> Network" I see the Windows Network icon. When
> activating it I get "Failed to retrieve share list from server". I can
> not ping any other machine. No PC can see the Linux machine but PCs can
> see each other. I did get the printer to work after a driver install and
> mail and internet are fine. My linux machine is a wired connection to
> the router, device eth0. The PCs are wireless. Network Configuration
> tool also shows a ethernet hardware device pan0 that I know nothing
> about.
> 
> My router is set up to use dynamic addressing so I did not add any
> host/ip pairs to the hosts file. Being only a linux user and not an
> expert, I don't know what is wrong and nor what to do next.
> 
> Mike
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Re: Graphics card recommendation?

[Jack Howarth]

  On two different Fedora 10 x86_64 boxes (one
AMD and the other Intel based) both equipped with
Radeon X1650 Pro graphics cards, the radeon driver
has been a total nightmare. The fglrx drivers
(which we have been using in the past) no longer
are available for pre-HD radeon cards. The free
radeon drivers work well except for one nasty
flaw... spontaneous reboots back to the BIOS
at random times. Disabling the kernel modeset
feature does nothing to eliminate these. We finally
gave up and replaced one of the machine's X1650 Pro
with a Nvidia 8600GT using the non-free nvidia
drivers. The machine has been rock solid ever since
the switch over. I finally gave up on the second
machine and ordered a Nvidia 9600GT for it as well.
  I have tested x86_64 Fedora 11 on a MacBook Pro with
X1600 graphics and found the new DRI2 based radeon
driver to be unusable because of improper rendering
(like drawing black to the top of the screen when
Pymol opens its viewer window or rendering progress
bars up in the menu bar). Google has its work cut
out for them if their OS is based on linux. I hope
they plan to throw a lot of money at driver development
because this issue is frankly killing Linux as a
platform here in our lab. Mac OS X's X11 graphics
support looks rock solid by comparison.
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Re: Upgrade from FC6 to FC11

[Nick Hayes]

Excalibur Xcalibur wrote:

Dear All,
 I've an old server running FC6. Is there a neat way to 
upgrade (Not clean install) from FC6 to FC11 without messing up things 
and keeping my settings and data? 


Thanks.

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Dear Peter "Excalibur",

If you want to upgrade from F6 to F11 without losing data and settings, 
you'll need to go through upgrading to F7 to F8 to F9...etc. Skipping 
releases may cause conflicts. If you want to skip releases and go 
straight to F11, I would suggest performing a clean install and backing 
up your data.


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Re: Upgrade from FC6 to FC11

[Excalibur Xcalibur]

Thanks for the response people. I thought you guys would say that and I was
hoping that there would be a clean solution. There are too many
customizations for me to perform a clean install at this point.. I think
that I'll leave it as it is!

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On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Nick Hayes  wrote:

> Excalibur Xcalibur wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>> I've an old server running FC6. Is there a neat way to upgrade
>> (Not clean install) from FC6 to FC11 without messing up things and keeping
>> my settings and data?
>> Thanks.
>>
>> --
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>>
> Dear Peter "Excalibur",
>
> If you want to upgrade from F6 to F11 without losing data and settings,
> you'll need to go through upgrading to F7 to F8 to F9...etc. Skipping
> releases may cause conflicts. If you want to skip releases and go straight
> to F11, I would suggest performing a clean install and backing up your data.
>
> Nick
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OT google chrome OS [was Re: Graphics card recommendation?]

[Tom Horsley]

On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:15:49 -0400
Jack Howarth wrote:

> Google has its work cut
> out for them if their OS is based on linux.

As near as I can tell from reading their blog, they aren't
actually planning an OS, they are just planning yet another
linux distro - this one containing only just enough components
to run their chrome browser and nothing else :-).

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Re: OT google chrome OS [was Re: Graphics card recommendation?]

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

Don't hijack threads.

poc

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Re: Completely confused by VNC packaging in Fedora 10

[Jud Craft]

The VNC packages in F11 actually use TigerVNC.  TigerVNC is based on
RealVNC, so they just dropped in the program and didn't change the
names.

There is no plain Tightvnc or Realvnc in F11 -- the TigerVNC package
just uses the generic "vncserver" and "vncviewer" names.

The VNC packaging is definitely confusing.

Just search for the VNC packages and install them -- the descriptions
won't mention TigerVNC or TightVNC either, but you'll know once you
install them.  There should be a "TigerVNC Client" under your
Applications->Internet menu afterwards.



On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
> Arthur Pemberton wrote:
>>
>> First of all, I was looking for TightVNC, through the wiki I came here:
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/TightVNC which redirects to
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/TigerVNC
>>
>> Neither of these are in Fedora 10. That page also talks about XVNC,
>> which also is not in Fedora 10 as far as i can tell.
>>
>> I am looking for the server implementation with the best compression
>> and the ability to share a session.
>>
>> Where do I go to from here?
>
> On F10:
>
>        vnc-4.1.3-1.fc10.x86_64
>        vnc-libs-4.1.3-1.fc10.x86_64
>        vnc-server-4.1.3-1.fc10.x86_64
>        libvncserver-0.9.1-3.fc10.x86_64
>
> All based on RealVNC, which has been, well, somewhat stagnant for a
> while as they seem to be devoting effort to their non-open version.
>
> TigerVNC (formerly TightVNC) is used in Fedora 11, I believe.  At least
> it was planned to be used in F11.  My F11 laptop is sitting in the car
> right now, so I can't verify.
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Re: OT google chrome OS [was Re: Graphics card recommendation?]

[Robert P. J. Day]

On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Tom Horsley wrote:

> On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:15:49 -0400
> Jack Howarth wrote:
>
> > Google has its work cut out for them if their OS is based on
> > linux.
>
> As near as I can tell from reading their blog, they aren't actually
> planning an OS, they are just planning yet another linux distro -
> this one containing only just enough components to run their chrome
> browser and nothing else :-).

  but what's their target market?  if you can install chrome on any
other distro (you can, right?), how exactly do they plan on breaking
into the market, unless they go hard at getting onto netbooks?

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Re: Fedora 11 UTF-8 and fonts (clearcase and citrix ICAClient, and maybe motif in general?)

[Jud Craft]

Try posting this to the fedora-font list too.

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Andy Wang wrote:
> Hi all,
> I posted this on fedoraforum.org when I was testing the preview F11
> and just did again to see if anyone using F11 release has any ideas,
> but I thought I'd try the mailing list as well:
>
> *** post from fedora forum ***
> The Citrix ICAClient and clearcase gui tools don't launch properly. I
> get the following:
> Warning:
> Name: FONTLIST_DEFAULT_TAG_STRING
> Class: XmRendition
> Conversion failed. Cannot load font.
>
> on the console in a nice steady stream. Citrix's wfica just fails to
> launch, and the wfcmgr is missing all fonts. Clearcase gui tools
> complains that it's unable to create a text drawing font set and the
> tools exit.
>
> I can workaround the problem two ways, one LANG=C instead of
> en_US.UTF-8 or removing the cjk fonts, specifically, the following two
> packages:
> cjkuni-uming-fonts-0.2.20080216.1-23.fc11.noarch
> cjkuni-fonts-common-0.2.20080216.1-23.fc11.noarch
>
> Any ideas on other solutions for this problem?
> *** end post from fedora forum ***
>
> Does anyone have any thoughts about this, the clearcase gui tools and
> ICAClient are the only two motif applications I have readily available
> to test (wish those would just move off motif, but I'm doubting that
> IBM will do anythign with clearcase anytime remotely soon).
>
> Just looking for general ideas on how to troubleshoot this.  I don't
> understand font loading anymore, especially with the UTF-8 encoding
> stuff, so I don't know why LANG=C would actually allow this to work.
> Can anyone provide a short primer on how that works, or let me know
> what's a good tool to try to debug font loading and find out what
> fonts it either can't load, or can't find?
>
> Thanks,
> Andy
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Re: OT google chrome OS [was Re: Graphics card recommendation?]

[Tom Horsley]

On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:50:02 -0400 (EDT)
Robert P. J. Day wrote:

>   but what's their target market?  if you can install chrome on any
> other distro (you can, right?), how exactly do they plan on breaking
> into the market, unless they go hard at getting onto netbooks?

That's the only target they mention in their blog. They say they
already have partners signed up to offer preinstalled chrome.

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Re: Fn key doesn't work on Vostro 1500

[Konstantin Svist]

Konstantin Svist wrote:
> Fresh F11 install on Vostro 1500, no proprietary drivers, selinux disabled.
> I can't seem to get Fn key to work. Fn+up/down is supposed to adjust
> brightness, Fn+PrntScrn is SysRq, etc. None of these combinations work
> right now.
> I've found that I can adjust brightness from command line with
> solid-powermanagement.
> Also, when I tried to assign Fn+up/down key to a shortcut, I got a
> message that said Qt doesn't support this key combination.
>   

P.S. the Fn key used to work on previous Fedora 8 install. The change I
had to make from default was setting the keyboard to Dell Laptop
Inspiron* in the keyboard applet.
I've tried doing the same with gnome-keyboard-properties applet in F11,
but no luck


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Re: F10 -> F11 using preupgrade [SOLVED}

[Peter J. Stieber]

PS = Pete Stieber
PS>> I have a Dell Power Edge 1435SC that is running F10.
PS>> I followed the preupgrade procedure on
PS>>
PS>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_use_PreUpgrade
PS>>
PS>> When the machine rebooted it asked me to select the
PS>> Ethernet connection to update over using the
PS>> NetworkManager.  I couldn't get this to work.
PS>>
PS>> On a positive note, when I rebooted the machine, F10
PS>> still worked.  I was not using the NetworkManager
PS>> with F10...
PS>>
PS>> $ chkconfig | grep etw
PS>> NetworkManager  0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off
PS>> network 0:off   1:off   2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off
PS>>
PS>> Is there a way around this?

B = Beartooth
B> I have recently done three machines, using first yum
B> update, then simply "preupgrade" as root. It looked
B> to operate normally on all three, and did on two --
B> both are now happily running F11. It -- or something
B> I did without noticing -- loused the other up royally
B> and  then some. I'm having to do fresh installs (the
B> first two failed, and the third is still under weigh).
B> Maybe that machine has a hardware problem ...

In the hopes of helping someone else out with similar problems...

This machine was configured with static a IP address.  A while ago the 
NetworkManager had problems with a static IP configuration so I switched 
the machine to the old network service.  The static IP address problem 
has been fixed in the NetworkManager, so I enabled the NetworkManager in 
F10.  After manually adding the proper lines to 
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* to get DNS working, the 
NetworkManager worked under F10.


When performing an upgrade reboot, the NetworkManager still had 
problems.  It turns out this was anaconda's fault.  It setup the system 
to use a Kickstart file that didn't have a static IP configuration line. 
 When this is the case, anaconda defaults to using DHCP.  This broke 
the install.  I added the proper "network" line to /boot/upgrade/ks.cfg 
and the install is now working.


Here is a bugzilla reference that will explain this better...

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=475027

I have upgraded this system several times.  I must have loaded a pre F8 
version because my boot partition was only 100 MB.  This made it 
impossible to download the install image (111 MB) from mirrors during 
the preupgrade process.  This made network access absolutely essential 
for the upgrade reboot to work.


I really hope this helps someone else out,
Pete

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Switching graphics drivers without xorg.conf

[Suvayu Ali]

Hi,

I have a Radeon HD4870 graphics card. I think since installation F11 has 
been using the radeon driver by default. I would like to have some 3D 
support for some games like nexuiz or openarena and want to switch to 
radeonhd. How do I do that without writing a new xorg.conf? (I don't 
have one right now)


Also on a side note, where do I configure the other options xorg.conf 
used to set? (things like USB polling rates for the pointing device, 
assigning keys to extra mouse buttons ...)


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Re: OT google chrome OS [was Re: Graphics card recommendation?]

[Robert P. J. Day]

On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Tom Horsley wrote:

> On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:50:02 -0400 (EDT)
> Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>
> >   but what's their target market?  if you can install chrome on
> > any other distro (you can, right?), how exactly do they plan on
> > breaking into the market, unless they go hard at getting onto
> > netbooks?
>
> That's the only target they mention in their blog. They say they
> already have partners signed up to offer preinstalled chrome.

  just for fun, i decided to install the chromium browser on my f11
x86_64 system.  first, the prebuilt binaries are 32-bit only, so doing
a yum install would have dragged down dozens of megabytes of i586
packages with it.

  however, grabbing the src package and trying to build it also didn't
help, since the only supported arches in the spec file are ix86 and
arm.  unless i'm reading it incorrectly.  does an x86_64 build of
their browser exist for f11?

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monitor resolution wierdness

[Kevin Kempter]

Hi all;

I have a Dell M6400 and an Nvidia card.

I'm running Fedora 10.

My laptop monitor is a 1920x1200 - I also have an external monitor- an Acer 
X243w that is also 1920x1200

I've used nvidia-settings to configure the second monitor via Twinview


When I plug the external monitor into my vga out before I boot the laptop then 
the screens are beautiful, a font size that I expect from a 1920x1200 monitor 
on both screens.

The system font defaults are fine (most of em are a font size of 9

However if I boot the laptop without the external monitor then the fonts are 
much larger, in order to have a similar look I need to go into the KDE system 
settings  --> appearance --> Fonts and change them all to 7, and a few (small, 
toolbar) to 6.  Even then my firefox fonts are bigger than I like and I have to 
use custom settings for Kmail.

I'm unclear why I get different fonts when I'm connected to the external 
monitor. 

Thoughts?

Thanks in advance...


If it helps here's an lspci output:
 $ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset DRAM Controller (rev 
03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port 
(rev 03)
00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI 
Controller #4 (rev 02)
00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI 
Controller #5 (rev 02)
00:1a.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI 
Controller #6 (rev 02)
00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI 
Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio 
Controller (rev 02)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 1 
(rev 02)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 2 
(rev 02)
00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 3 
(rev 02)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 4 
(rev 02)
00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 5 
(rev 02)
00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 6 
(rev 02)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI 
Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI 
Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI 
Controller #3 (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI 
Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 92)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation ICH9M-E LPC Interface Controller (rev 
02)
00:1f.2 RAID bus controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 82801 SATA RAID 
Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 
02)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 061e (rev a2)
03:01.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev ba)
03:01.1 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller (rev 
04)
03:01.2 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host 
Adapter (rev 21)
03:01.3 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C843 MMC Host Controller (rev 11)
03:01.4 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter 
(rev 11)
03:01.5 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd xD-Picture Card Controller (rev ff)
09:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5761e Gigabit 
Ethernet PCIe (rev 10)
0c:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless WiFi Link 5100

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Re: OT google chrome OS [was Re: Graphics card recommendation?]

[Mauriat Miranda]

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Tom Horsley wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:50:02 -0400 (EDT)
>> Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>>
>> >   but what's their target market?  if you can install chrome on
>> > any other distro (you can, right?), how exactly do they plan on
>> > breaking into the market, unless they go hard at getting onto
>> > netbooks?
>>
>> That's the only target they mention in their blog. They say they
>> already have partners signed up to offer preinstalled chrome.
>
>  just for fun, i decided to install the chromium browser on my f11
> x86_64 system.  first, the prebuilt binaries are 32-bit only, so doing
> a yum install would have dragged down dozens of megabytes of i586
> packages with it.
>
>  however, grabbing the src package and trying to build it also didn't
> help, since the only supported arches in the spec file are ix86 and
> arm.  unless i'm reading it incorrectly.  does an x86_64 build of
> their browser exist for f11?
>

I think the v8 javascript engine that Chrome uses isn't 64bit ready
yet? or has issues in 64bit.
So use 32bit or wait (I'm guessing 64bit support is low in the priority list).

-Mauriat

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Re: Completely confused by VNC packaging in Fedora 10

[Arthur Pemberton]

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Jud Craft wrote:
> The VNC packages in F11 actually use TigerVNC.  TigerVNC is based on
> RealVNC, so they just dropped in the program and didn't change the
> names.
>
> There is no plain Tightvnc or Realvnc in F11 -- the TigerVNC package
> just uses the generic "vncserver" and "vncviewer" names.
>
> The VNC packaging is definitely confusing.
>
> Just search for the VNC packages and install them -- the descriptions
> won't mention TigerVNC or TightVNC either, but you'll know once you
> install them.  There should be a "TigerVNC Client" under your
> Applications->Internet menu afterwards.


Thanks.

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Pure x86_64? Why are i586 packages pulled as dependences?

[Joshua C.]

I build a x86_64 live cd and speficied only x86_64 repos. At the end I
saw some i586 and one i686 packages. I do customized the kickfiles and
added some -devel packages but I thought only x86_64 packages would be
pulled.

Then when trying to update some x86_64 packages on the livecd (running
it as livecd) I saw that many i586 are pulled as dependences. At the
end there were lots of duplets.

How to make a "pure" x86_64 livecd?

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firefox & thunderbird both spontaneously crash since upgrading from F10 -> F11

[Lonni J Friedman]

I've spent the past hour googling, and found several others with the
same problem, but no solutions that worked for me.  Since upgrading
from F10 -> F11 (i686), both thunderbird & firefox spontaneously crash
with the error:

INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: Could not get the JVM manager
System error?:: No such file or directory

I was able to work around the problem on thunderbird by doing what was
suggested here:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=50237&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

however, the same workaround doesn't apply to firefox.  What I've
tried on firefox (without improvement) is:
0) Remove the java plugin from /usr/lib/firefox/plugins (there is none
in my $HOME/.mozilla)
1) start up in --safe-mode (it still crashes)
2) delete my ~/.mozilla
3) remove & reinstall the firefox RPM

If I download and install the 'official' firefox-3.5 package from the
Mozilla website, that one does not crash, an works fine.  So this
appears to be a bug in the fedora version.

Has anyone else run into this?


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Re: Upgrade from FC6 to FC11

[paul s]

couple of problems that i ran into with moving an F8 box to F11...

take a backup of your ldap database so you can restore it as they are 
not compatible db versions..


similarly with postgres data... take a snapshot so that it can be 
imported into the newer version as it cannot read an the older data 
directory...





On 07/08/2009 12:11 PM, Excalibur Xcalibur wrote:

Dear All,
 I've an old server running FC6. Is there a neat way to 
upgrade (Not clean install) from FC6 to FC11 without messing up things 
and keeping my settings and data? 


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XFCE wonkiness after upgrading from Fedora10 -> 11

[Lonni J Friedman]

Greetings,
I've just upgaded from Fedora10 to 11, and I'm running across a bunch
of XFCE problems.  Apologies if these are Fedora specific or known
already:
0) New windows appear _under_ pre-existing windows.  At first I
thought I was going crazy because apps would never seemingly run,
until I realized that they were happily sitting behind other apps.
1) The menu editor(xfce4-menueditor) seems to be gone entirely.  Its
not in the settings-manager, and there's no xfce4-menueditor binary
anywhere.  I did a yum search for it as well, and found nothing.  That
wouldn't be a big deal except that
2) My /home/netllama/.config/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml is completely
ignored, and I'm getting a default menu with all sorts of entries that
I don't want or need, and none of the entries that I do need.

thanks in advance for any guidance or feedback.

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Re: XFCE wonkiness after upgrading from Fedora10 -> 11

[suvayu ali]

2009/7/8 Lonni J Friedman :
> Greetings,
> I've just upgaded from Fedora10 to 11, and I'm running across a bunch
> of XFCE problems.  Apologies if these are Fedora specific or known
> already:
> 0) New windows appear _under_ pre-existing windows.  At first I
> thought I was going crazy because apps would never seemingly run,
> until I realized that they were happily sitting behind other apps.
> 1) The menu editor(xfce4-menueditor) seems to be gone entirely.  Its
> not in the settings-manager, and there's no xfce4-menueditor binary
> anywhere.  I did a yum search for it as well, and found nothing.  That
> wouldn't be a big deal except that
> 2) My /home/netllama/.config/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml is completely
> ignored, and I'm getting a default menu with all sorts of entries that
> I don't want or need, and none of the entries that I do need.
>

I don't know about your first query, but this is relevant to your
query about the menu editor.

https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-July/msg00793.html

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Re: XFCE wonkiness after upgrading from Fedora10 -> 11

[Lonni J Friedman]

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:01 PM, suvayu ali wrote:
> 2009/7/8 Lonni J Friedman :
>> Greetings,
>> I've just upgaded from Fedora10 to 11, and I'm running across a bunch
>> of XFCE problems.  Apologies if these are Fedora specific or known
>> already:
>> 0) New windows appear _under_ pre-existing windows.  At first I
>> thought I was going crazy because apps would never seemingly run,
>> until I realized that they were happily sitting behind other apps.
>> 1) The menu editor(xfce4-menueditor) seems to be gone entirely.  Its
>> not in the settings-manager, and there's no xfce4-menueditor binary
>> anywhere.  I did a yum search for it as well, and found nothing.  That
>> wouldn't be a big deal except that
>> 2) My /home/netllama/.config/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml is completely
>> ignored, and I'm getting a default menu with all sorts of entries that
>> I don't want or need, and none of the entries that I do need.
>>
>
> I don't know about your first query, but this is relevant to your
> query about the menu editor.
>
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-July/msg00793.html

Thanks, that should get me started.  Its disappointing that the menu
editor is gone.  Having to edit XML by hand for a windowing env
configuration feels so very wrong.



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Re: TRY AGAIN, error running Maple 7 on Fedora 10

[Kevin Kofler]

William M. Quarles wrote:
> OK, does anyone else think it's bizarre that just because the FC10 glibc
> lacks LinuxThreads, that I'm getting a missing library file error when
> that library is actually installed on my system? Anyway, I guess that's
> why everyone on here is still saying to avoid closed-source software...
> anyone know of any open-source computer algebra software?

We have Maxima packaged in Fedora. Try "yum install wxMaxima maxima-gui". 
(maxima-gui is the old xmaxima GUI, it's used for some things like 
displaying plots, so you'll probably want to install it even if you're going 
to use wxMaxima as your UI.)

Others which come to my mind are Axiom, giac/xcas and Yacas. And if you're 
looking for a monster "umbrella package", there's SAGE.

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Re: Upgrade from FC6 to FC11

[Bill Davidsen]

Excalibur Xcalibur wrote:
Thanks for the response people. I thought you guys would say that and I 
was hoping that there would be a clean solution. There are too many 
customizations for me to perform a clean install at this point.. I think 
that I'll leave it as it is!


I have a similar upgrade coming someday, right now I have hardware supported 
only under old version with a vendor driver. Someday I will try bringing the USB 
device into a KVM machine and running it there, but for now...


Anyway, I install with the idea of a clean total reinstall, so virtually all of 
the custom stuff is in another partition I can preserve. I'm sorry to say you 
are not going to do a clean upgrade because:

- stuff in /etc/sysconfig has changed name, format, and interpretation
- a new cron is in place
- /etc/inittab has been replace with a complex scheme
- default simple functional networking has been replaced with NetMangler
- simple functional sound has been replace with PulseAudio and you can use up
  to five volume control and mixers to make sound not work right

You really want to do a full install, honest. At least now you know why that's 
the case.


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Re: Problem with uw-imap-static (Fedora 9) on x86_64 can anybody help?

[Kevin Kofler]

Howard Wilkinson wrote:
> To answer the question in your other response! Asterisk loads the
> voicemail modules dynamically, with the imap version this fails as the
> c-client library tries to bind back into entry points provided by the
> voicemail module and the dynamic loader barfs - I suspect that symbols
> are getting stripped to early somewhere but cannot pin it down. The
> advice from the uw-imap mailing lists is "link with the static library"

But that's a broken suggestion because the static library is (intentionally) 
non-PIC and so cannot be used in a shared library. You can't link static 
libraries into shared libraries unless they are PIC, which static libraries 
normally aren't.

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RE: Fedora 10: Does KDE support Xinerama or Dual independent Head monitor configuration?

[Kevin Kofler]

Anuar, Nuhairi wrote:
> This is
> based on the XRandR 1.2 capabilities and I do not need to use any special
> KDE configuration.
> 
> The problem is that the driver has no support for Xrandr 1.2. So can I
> still have Xinerama  or DIH without Xrandr 1.2?

Well, KDE supports dual head just fine with drivers which support current 
XRandR standards, but with crappy legacy drivers, it might not work. The 
Display portion of System Settings definitely expects a working XRandR. At 
most you may be able to get it to work by hand-editing xorg.conf.

If you're using a proprietary driver, try a Free one instead (radeon for ATI 
stuff, nouveau for NVidia crap), those tend to have better support for 
modern X.Org X11 standards. The proprietary crap is always lagging behind.

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Re: firefox & thunderbird both spontaneously crash since upgrading from F10 -> F11

[Kevin Martin]

Lonni J Friedman wrote:
> I've spent the past hour googling, and found several others with the
> same problem, but no solutions that worked for me.  Since upgrading
> from F10 -> F11 (i686), both thunderbird & firefox spontaneously crash
> with the error:
>
> INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: Could not get the JVM manager
> System error?:: No such file or directory
>
> I was able to work around the problem on thunderbird by doing what was
> suggested here:
> http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=50237&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a
>
> however, the same workaround doesn't apply to firefox.  What I've
> tried on firefox (without improvement) is:
> 0) Remove the java plugin from /usr/lib/firefox/plugins (there is none
> in my $HOME/.mozilla)
> 1) start up in --safe-mode (it still crashes)
> 2) delete my ~/.mozilla
> 3) remove & reinstall the firefox RPM
>
> If I download and install the 'official' firefox-3.5 package from the
> Mozilla website, that one does not crash, an works fine.  So this
> appears to be a bug in the fedora version.
>
> Has anyone else run into this?
>
>
>   
Hah, imagine that.  I had the build from Mozilla's website and it would
crash within 30 seconds of starting it up.  Since I removed that and
loaded the rpm from Fedora that issue has disappeared.  FWIW, my
thunderbird is from the mozilla website and it seems to be running fine
(2.0.22) although it did crash the other day for some reason.  Nice to
know that whatever changes they've made in Firefox seems to be present
in both the Fedora and Mozilla versions.

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Re: [F11, SELinux] What is mls?

[Kevin Kofler]

Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> 1) what is mls?

Multi-Layer Security

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Re: Samba Issues [ALMOST SOLVED] still need help

[Kevin Kofler]

Mike Adolf wrote:
> I don't think I can try it until I install the next version of Fedora.
> Why? Because just before I got your first email, I got pretty upset at
> selinux (I still think it is way to hard for the general user ). So, I
> disabled it. Everything shares great now, but I realize that many files
> are now written without selinux and I stand a good chance of running
> into problems if I enable it again. But I'll keep you emails for my next
> install.

If you reenable SELinux, it will do a relabel at the next reboot (and it 
won't be effective until that reboot).

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Re: touchpad synaptics pm-suspend

[Matthew Saltzman]

On Tue, 2009-07-07 at 20:23 -0400, paul s wrote:
> hi -
> 
> when my mbp4,1 comes back from suspend the touchpad is
> frozen|unresponsive|not working. it only seems to be with suspend as
> when it returns from hibernate it is fine...
> 
> i am using 2.6.29.5-191.fc11.x86_64 is anyone experiencing this issue...
> 
> i have been looking around, played with the fdi and also added a script
> to the /etc/pm/sleep.d to load and unload appletouch to no avail...
> 
> anyone else experiencing this behavior? help would be greatly appreciated.

Not this exactly, but I've noticed that when I turn on tapping, it goes
off after some time.  I now conjecture that tapping doesn't survive
suspend/resume, but I need to test now and see.

> 
> cheers
> paul
> 
> 
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Re: Upgrade from FC6 to FC11

[Aldo Foot]

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Excalibur
Xcalibur wrote:
> Thanks for the response people. I thought you guys would say that and I was
> hoping that there would be a clean solution. There are too many
> customizations for me to perform a clean install at this point.. I think
> that I'll leave it as it is!
>
> --
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Cross your fingers without security fixes.  :-)
CentOS is a better choice for servers.

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Missing debuginfo for xorg-x11-server

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

I'm trying to get a stack trace of a reproducible X server crasher
(briefly, it appears to be related to DRM as it only happens when
running the foobillard billards simulation game). However I can't get
the debuginfo for the server:

Could not find debuginfo for main pkg: 
xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.6.1.901-2.fc11.x86_64

Any thoughts?

poc

PS If anyone else has info on this crasher, kindly speak up.

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Re: Samsung Laser printers and F10/11?

[Kevin Kofler]

Mike Cloaked wrote:
> Does anyone know if the following two printers work well (and preferably
> without the need for additional drivers) in F10 and F11?
> 
> Samsung CLP 310N
> and
> SCX-4500W

According to the information on openprinting.org, those both appear to use 
the proprietary Samsung Printer Language, so you have just 2 options:
* a proprietary driver from Samsung and
* a reverse-engineered driver (SpliX) which (AFAIK) isn't in Fedora at this 
time. And some Samsung printers require the patent-encumbered JBIG support, 
so support for those is not likely to land in Fedora any time soon.

Also note that the list on http://splix.ap2c.org/ cites neither the CLP 310N 
nor the SCX-4500W. (It does cite an SCX-4500 without the 'W', but that might 
be a significantly different model.)

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Re: Upgrade from FC6 to FC11

[Kevin Kofler]

Excalibur Xcalibur wrote:
> Thanks for the response people. I thought you guys would say that and I
> was hoping that there would be a clean solution. There are too many
> customizations for me to perform a clean install at this point.. I think
> that I'll leave it as it is!

Well, you could try upgrading it step by step, like FC6->F8->F10 and then to 
F12 when it comes out. Skipping more than one release at a time isn't really 
tested or supported, so it can cause problems. But keeping the ancient 
release forever isn't a solution either.

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Re: firefox & thunderbird both spontaneously crash since upgrading from F10 -> F11

[Kevin Kofler]

Lonni J Friedman wrote:
> INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: Could not get the JVM manager
> System error?:: No such file or directory

Looks like your Java plugin is broken. Did you install some non-Fedora 
version of Java?

Kevin Kofler


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Re: OT google chrome OS [was Re: Graphics card recommendation?]

[Kevin Kofler]

Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>   however, grabbing the src package and trying to build it also didn't
> help, since the only supported arches in the spec file are ix86 and
> arm.  unless i'm reading it incorrectly.  does an x86_64 build of
> their browser exist for f11?

No. Their JavaScript interpreter is a JIT which means it's inherently 
target-specific, and they only have code for 32-bit x86 and ARM. Their code 
is also said not to be 64-bit-safe in other places as well. :-(

So basically it's a worthless piece of crap. Software still not supporting 
x86_64 these days is just broken. Having to pick one, they should have 
targeted x86_64, not 32-bit x86, with their JIT.

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RE: Fedora 10: Does KDE support Xinerama or Dual independent Head monitor configuration?

[Antonio Olivares]

 
> If you're using a proprietary driver, try a Free one
> instead (radeon for ATI 
> stuff, nouveau for NVidia crap), those tend to have better
> support for 
> modern X.Org X11 standards. The proprietary crap is always
> lagging behind.
> 
>         Kevin Kofler
> 
> 
> -- 

Does not work as well as it should at least for me :(,  when I try to play a 
DVD with mplayer I get:

   
    Your system is too SLOW to play this!  
   

This on a computer with Quad Core CPU, 4 GB of Ram, 


http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_7c13bb00-2ebf-42d9-b342-d91f26574bf1

And if it were not enough I tried to give it a chance, and generate an 
Xorg.conf file to see if I could get to work reasonably and I get kernel 
oops/panics like the one below

Kernel failure message 1:
BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 0008
IP: [] :nouveau:nouveau_channel_idle+0x3f/0x9b
*pdpt = 33cc4001 *pde = 00012f597067 
Oops:  [#1] SMP 
Modules linked in: nouveau drm slamr(P) ungrab_winmodem bridge stp bnep sco 
l2cap bluetooth sunrpc ip6t_REJECT nf_conntrack_ipv6 ip6table_filter ip6_tables 
ipv6 cpufreq_ondemand acpi_cpufreq dm_multipath uinput snd_hda_intel 
snd_seq_dummy snd_seq_oss snd_seq_midi_event arc4 snd_seq ecb snd_seq_device 
crypto_blkcipher snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss firewire_ohci snd_pcm firewire_core 
crc_itu_t snd_timer snd_page_alloc snd_hwdep i2c_i801 sky2 i2c_core r8169 mii 
pata_jmicron snd soundcore iTCO_wdt iTCO_vendor_support usb_storage rtl8187 
mac80211 eeprom_93cx6 cfg80211 pcspkr ata_generic pata_acpi [last unloaded: 
microcode]
Mar 19 05:42:08 localhost kernel: Pid: 2970, comm: X Tainted: P  
(2.6.27.19-170.2.35.fc10.i686.PAE #1) P5K Deluxe
EIP: 0060:[] EFLAGS: 00213297 CPU: 2
EIP is at nouveau_channel_idle+0x3f/0x9b [nouveau]
EAX:  EBX: f3c89900 ECX: 0010 EDX: fc002500
ESI: f596a800 EDI: 0010 EBP: f3ca2e90 ESP: f3ca2e84
DS: 007b ES: 007b FS: 00d8 GS: 0033 SS: 0068
Process X (pid: 2970, ti=f3ca2000 task=f4a60cd0 task.ti=f3ca2000)
Stack: f596a800 f3c89900 f5526000 f3ca2eac f8ebe575 9a56b520 0036 ffea 
  fffe f3c89900 f3ca2eec f8ebeaac f596aa98 f5526000 f596a800 0001 
  0001 0001 f442e300 1000   f596a800 f596a800 
Call Trace:
[] ? nouveau_fifo_free+0x70/0x149 [nouveau]
[] ? nouveau_fifo_alloc+0x3a5/0x3a7 [nouveau]
[] ? nouveau_dma_channel_init+0x86/0x52a [nouveau]
[] ? nouveau_card_init+0x72e/0x73f [nouveau]
[] ? nouveau_ioctl_card_init+0x8/0xb [nouveau]
[] ? drm_ioctl+0x1b0/0x225 [drm]
[] ? nouveau_ioctl_card_init+0x0/0xb [nouveau]
[] ? vfs_ioctl+0x50/0x69
[] ? do_vfs_ioctl+0x23b/0x247
[] ? selinux_file_ioctl+0x35/0x38
[] ? sys_ioctl+0x40/0x5c
[] ? sysenter_do_call+0x12/0x34
===
Code: 52 10 81 c2 00 25 00 00 8b 3a 8b 56 14 89 f9 83 e1 fe 8b 52 10 81 c2 00 
25 00 00 89 0a ff 96 84 02 00 00 3b 43 04 74 29 8b 43 44 <8b> 48 08 8b 46 1c 8b 
51 0c 8b 40 10 03 42 08 8b 18 8b 41 0c 8b 
EIP: [] nouveau_channel_idle+0x3f/0x9b [nouveau] SS:ESP 0068:f3ca2e84
---[ end trace ac414115b22fcdf6 ]---

I know you have a personal grudge against nvidia, but noveau is NOT THERE YET, 
wish it was, but it is not that one has to use proprietary drivers(which work 
well by the way, either directly from nvidia or rpmfusion) have used both and 
don't mind them a bit.  Wish you were right, but depending on the computer 
itself and the graphics card, YMMV.

Regards,

Antonio  


  

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Re: Switching graphics drivers without xorg.conf

[Kevin Kofler]

Suvayu Ali wrote:
> I have a Radeon HD4870 graphics card. I think since installation F11 has
> been using the radeon driver by default. I would like to have some 3D
> support for some games like nexuiz or openarena and want to switch to
> radeonhd.

The radeonhd driver doesn't have 3D support for those cards either at this 
time.

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Re: firefox & thunderbird both spontaneously crash since upgrading from F10 -> F11

[Lonni J Friedman]

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Lonni J Friedman wrote:
>> INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: Could not get the JVM manager
>> System error?:: No such file or directory
>
> Looks like your Java plugin is broken. Did you install some non-Fedora
> version of Java?

Nope.  I've got only what ships with Fedora11.


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Re: F10 -> F11 using preupgrade [SOLVED}

[brian]

On 07/08/2009 03:39 PM, Peter J. Stieber wrote:


In the hopes of helping someone else out with similar problems...

This machine was configured with static a IP address. A while ago the
NetworkManager had problems with a static IP configuration so I switched
the machine to the old network service. The static IP address problem
has been fixed in the NetworkManager, so I enabled the NetworkManager in
F10. After manually adding the proper lines to
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* to get DNS working, the
NetworkManager worked under F10.

When performing an upgrade reboot, the NetworkManager still had
problems. It turns out this was anaconda's fault. It setup the system to
use a Kickstart file that didn't have a static IP configuration line.
When this is the case, anaconda defaults to using DHCP. This broke the
install. I added the proper "network" line to /boot/upgrade/ks.cfg and
the install is now working.

Here is a bugzilla reference that will explain this better...

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=475027

I have upgraded this system several times. I must have loaded a pre F8
version because my boot partition was only 100 MB. This made it
impossible to download the install image (111 MB) from mirrors during
the preupgrade process. This made network access absolutely essential
for the upgrade reboot to work.

I really hope this helps someone else out,
Pete



I had a similar problem. If using preupgrade, when it gets to the point 
where it displays a "reboot" button, edit /boot/upgrade/ks.cfg and add:


network --bootproto=static --ip=192.168.1.2 --netmask=255.255.255.0 
--gateway=192.168.1.1 --nameserver=4.2.2.1 --device=eth0


Make sure it's all on one line. And, of course, substitute your own IP 
addresses. Save the file and click "reboot" and it should work.


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Re: Hint on Linpus

[Carlos Alberto Alves]

roland wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 04:06:39 +0200, Carlos Alberto Alves 
 wrote:



Hi!
Is there anyone who can help me setting an Acer Aspire One 150 to run 
a Linpus Linux in US English with a keyboard ABNT2 (Portuguese 
brazilian)? Found no help in Linpus homepage... :(

Thanks in advance,


Linpus (a version of fedora) understands the instruction
setxkbmap -layout xx
where xx is uk or us or de or ...
setxkbmap -help

The language is a build in feature at purchase.


I will try it ASAP and get back to you.
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Re: Problem with uw-imap-static (Fedora 9) on x86_64 can anybody help?

[Rex Dieter]

Howard Wilkinson wrote:

> Rex,

>> In the meantime, try this build:
>> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1460664
  
> I have rebuilt using the packages from koij and get the self same error
> message. Any thoughts?

Ah, osdep.c wasn't being built with either CFLAGS or -fPIC, try this one:

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1462806

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> Howard.


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yum update fails

[Michael Harrison]

Upgraded from F10 to F11 and everything works except yum. Doing a yum update 
shows the error:

Setting up Update Process
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/yum", line 29, in 
yummain.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True)
  File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 309, in user_main
errcode = main(args)
  File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 178, in main
result, resultmsgs = base.doCommands()
  File "/usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py", line 352, in doCommands
return self.yum_cli_commands[self.basecmd].doCommand(self, self.basecmd, 
self.extcmds)
  File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yumcommands.py", line 201, in doCommand
return base.updatePkgs(extcmds)
  File "/usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py", line 608, in updatePkgs
self.update()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 2809, in update
updates = self.up.getUpdatesTuples()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 662, in 
up = property(fget=lambda self: self._getUpdates(),
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 563, in 
_getUpdates
self._up.doObsoletes()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/rpmUtils/updates.py", line 231, in 
doObsoletes
if flag in [None, 0] or \
SystemError: null argument to internal routine

Any ideas?

Thanks,
-Mike




  

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Re: F11 - unrant

[Thomas Cameron]

On 06/28/2009 03:09 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> What I hate about going to a new version of Fedora is configuring all
> the media handling software.
> 
> Well on my machine in F11 it was a breeze. I am running youtube videos,
> playing npr programs (which used to give me headaches) and have gotten
> CNN videos to work which used to be very difficult. I was amazed.
> 
> Good job to the developers.
> 

Enthusiastic +1.

F11 + RPMFusion has been essentially flawless for me on a number of
systems.  Click a link or a file, it prompts me to install any required
packages, et voila!  I'm watching videos and listening to music.  Love it!

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freqTweak issues

[Guilherme Longo]

Is there anyone here using freqTweak
I can't get it working under FC10 ;o(!





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Re: Switching graphics drivers without xorg.conf

[suvayu ali]

2009/7/9 Kevin Kofler :
> Suvayu Ali wrote:
>> I have a Radeon HD4870 graphics card. I think since installation F11 has
>> been using the radeon driver by default. I would like to have some 3D
>> support for some games like nexuiz or openarena and want to switch to
>> radeonhd.
>
> The radeonhd driver doesn't have 3D support for those cards either at this
> time.

Oh damn! Any idea about the timeframe, a month, several months or maybe a year?

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increase Evolution maximum data file size

[Adeel Akbar]

Hi,

Thanks for valuable feedback. My Inbox size is 2GB and now my evolution
unable to receive emails. How I increase size of data file from 2 GB to
maximum. Can you send me complet steps or how to perform this activity. 

Thanks & Regards

Adeel Akbar


On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 10:12 -0400, NoSpaze wrote:

> Am Mittwoch, den 08.07.2009, 18:25 +0600 schrieb Adeel Akbar:
> > Hi, 
> > 
> > I have used evolution, and i have two queries;
> > 
> > 1. maximum size of stored data (pst file size in evolution)
> > 2. How I join/manage multiple PST's in evolution.
> > 
> > can anyone help me out.
> 
> PST file types are Outlook's. Evolution uses plain text files to store
> messages in the same format they are received.
> 
> joining: cat mailbox1 mailbox2 > bigmailbox
> managing: mutt -f bigmailbox
> 
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Re: Problem with uw-imap-static (Fedora 9) on x86_64 can anybody help?

[Howard Wilkinson]

Rex,

Rex Dieter wrote:

Howard Wilkinson wrote:

  

Rex,



  

In the meantime, try this build:
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1460664
  
  
  

I have rebuilt using the packages from koij and get the self same error
message. Any thoughts?



Ah, osdep.c wasn't being built with either CFLAGS or -fPIC, try this one:

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1462806

-- Rex

  
Ok this fixed the linking problem, I have not managed to test yet. Where 
can I download the src rpm from?

Howard.




  

Thankyou for your assistence, Regards, Howard
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Re: Problem with uw-imap-static (Fedora 9) on x86_64 can anybody help?

[Howard Wilkinson]

Rex, I found the src on koji (nice environment!) and have rebuilt here. 
So I am good to go I think.


Thankyou for your help

Howard.

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Re: XFCE wonkiness after upgrading from Fedora10 -> 11

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:42:48 -0700
Lonni J Friedman  wrote:

> Greetings,
> I've just upgaded from Fedora10 to 11, and I'm running across a bunch
> of XFCE problems.  Apologies if these are Fedora specific or known
> already:
> 0) New windows appear _under_ pre-existing windows.  At first I
> thought I was going crazy because apps would never seemingly run,
> until I realized that they were happily sitting behind other apps.

There is a thread on the upstream devel list about this... 
It's unclear to me at least what causes the issue. ;( 

What do you have for: 

Automatically give focus to newly started applications.
and
Automatically raise windows when they receive focus.

In your window manager prefs? Does changing these affect the behavior? 
Also, do you see it only with Terminal and Thunar? Or is it everything?

> 1) The menu editor(xfce4-menueditor) seems to be gone entirely.  Its
> not in the settings-manager, and there's no xfce4-menueditor binary
> anywhere.  I did a yum search for it as well, and found nothing.  That
> wouldn't be a big deal except that

Yep. The menu handling was totally redone in 4.6, and the editor was
not ready to ship. They decided that this functionality was not worth
blocking the entire release on, so it's not available. ;( 
It should be back better and stronger in 4.8. 

> 2) My /home/netllama/.config/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml is completely
> ignored, and I'm getting a default menu with all sorts of entries that
> I don't want or need, and none of the entries that I do need.
> 
> thanks in advance for any guidance or feedback.

Take a look at: 

http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/customize-menu

for info on customizing menus in 4.6. 

Hope that helps some. 

kevin



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Re: OT google chrome OS [was Re: Graphics card recommendation?]

[Robert P. J. Day]

On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Mauriat Miranda wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Tom Horsley wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:50:02 -0400 (EDT)
> >> Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> >>
> >> >   but what's their target market?  if you can install chrome on
> >> > any other distro (you can, right?), how exactly do they plan on
> >> > breaking into the market, unless they go hard at getting onto
> >> > netbooks?
> >>
> >> That's the only target they mention in their blog. They say they
> >> already have partners signed up to offer preinstalled chrome.
> >
> >  just for fun, i decided to install the chromium browser on my f11
> > x86_64 system.  first, the prebuilt binaries are 32-bit only, so doing
> > a yum install would have dragged down dozens of megabytes of i586
> > packages with it.
> >
> >  however, grabbing the src package and trying to build it also didn't
> > help, since the only supported arches in the spec file are ix86 and
> > arm.  unless i'm reading it incorrectly.  does an x86_64 build of
> > their browser exist for f11?
> >
>
> I think the v8 javascript engine that Chrome uses isn't 64bit ready
> yet? or has issues in 64bit. So use 32bit or wait (I'm guessing
> 64bit support is low in the priority list).

  i think i'll wait.  i don't feel like loading up my x86_64 box with
72 packages and 47M of i586 content just to see what that browser
looks like.

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Re: increase Evolution maximum data file size

[Peter Boy]

Am Donnerstag, den 09.07.2009, 11:02 +0600 schrieb Adeel Akbar:
> Thanks for valuable feedback. My Inbox size is 2GB and now my
> evolution unable to receive emails. How I increase size of data file
> from 2 GB to maximum. Can you send me complet steps or how to perform
> this activity.


According to my knowledge there is no way to increase the 2gb barrier.
You have to delete old mail in inbox folder or move it to one or more
archive folders. Same 2gb barrier for each of them, too (evolution
stores each folder in its own file).

I created several archive folders named by topics.



Peter



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about LDAP

[hqm8512]

hello,

 I want to use LDAP to control all users. when i logon on sysytem .I want to 
create a home for user,how can i realize it? please help me 



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