date:20090711

On 07/11/2009 10:01 PM, BJ Dierkes wrote:

 No kidding.  I've submitted two patches... one just removing the dep,
 and two adding a subpackage as an alternative route.  Hopefully this
 will help move it along.

Axel Thimm has only been sporadically active for a long time now. There
are a number of bugs against his packages that he has not responded to
but I didn't realize the situation was so bad. I think it is high time,
we orphan the packages and let more interested maintainers take over.

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Re: Fail2ban + Shorewall Question

2009-07-11 Thread BJ Dierkes



On Jul 11, 2009, at 1:50 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:


On 07/11/2009 10:01 PM, BJ Dierkes wrote:


No kidding.  I've submitted two patches... one just removing the dep,
and two adding a subpackage as an alternative route.  Hopefully this
will help move it along.


Axel Thimm has only been sporadically active for a long time now.  
There

are a number of bugs against his packages that he has not responded to
but I didn't realize the situation was so bad. I think it is high  
time,

we orphan the packages and let more interested maintainers take over.



I'd be interested in taking over fail2ban though I'm just now learning  
the procedures involved in doing so... and researched everything  
online for Fedora/EPEL Package Maintainers.  Any pointers welcome.


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Re: Packages tracked by FEver that need to be updated

2009-07-11 Thread Jon Stanley

On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Till Maasopensou...@till.name wrote:

 Probably and afaik the original author also planned to do so. Unluckily the
 code that handled the bugzilla tickets is afaik not publicly available,
 therefore this needs to be rewritten.

What language is it written in? Should be easy to implement using
python-bugzilla assuming it's written in python.

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Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread Kevin Kofler

Frank Murphy wrote:
 Doesn't seem to work for wine :)

That's because WINE is only 32-bit, because most Winblow$ executables are.

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rpm %defattr question

2009-07-11 Thread Jussi Lehtola

Hi,


is the default attribute definition
 %defattr(-,root,root)
the same as
 %defattr(-,root,root,-)?
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Re: RFC: cronKit

2009-07-11 Thread Christoph Wickert

Am Montag, den 06.07.2009, 19:03 +0200 schrieb Christoph Höger:
 Hi,
 
 since I sync my mail with the experimental gnome ui of offlineimap, I
 encounter a small problem: 
 How do I tell cron to only invoke the job when I am logged in under
 gnome only?

How about http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php/DoThisNow

 Since I want the job only to be run if I am logged in under gnome the
 main idea is to have a process added to the session that can handle
 crontab like jobs (aka cronKit)

No more kits please. ;) Whatever the new software would be named, pls
don't make another *kit.

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Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread David

On 7/11/2009 8:27 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 20:03:51 -0400,
   David brusefamel...@gmail.com wrote:
 The 'real guys'. The developers, code writers, people-in-the-know, show
 respect where respect is warranted.
 
 I'm sure Al Capone got a lot of respect in his day as well.


;-)

I think that he *demanded* that respect. Deserved? Not really.


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Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread Jesse Keating




On Jul 11, 2009, at 17:03, David brusefamel...@gmail.com wrote:


On 7/11/2009 6:17 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:

Frank Murphy wrote:

Doesn't seem to work for wine :)


That's because WINE is only 32-bit, because most Winblow$  
executables are.


   Kevin Kofler



Winblow$?

You really should learn some control here.

The 'real guys'. The developers, code writers, people-in-the-know,  
show

respect where respect is warranted.

Microsoft should recieve that respect IMO.

90% of the desktop computers in the world use some version of Windows.
More desktop computers use some form of Mac OS than all combined
versions (distributions) of Linux.

WINE? Is a nice concept. But it will never, again IMO, as long as the
'Windows programs' that WINE can run are mostly really old DOS  
programs.


Sheesh.
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Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread David

On 7/11/2009 9:35 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
 
 
 On Jul 11, 2009, at 17:03, David brusefamel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On 7/11/2009 6:17 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
 Frank Murphy wrote:
 Doesn't seem to work for wine :)

 That's because WINE is only 32-bit, because most Winblow$ executables
 are.

Kevin Kofler


 Winblow$?

 You really should learn some control here.

 The 'real guys'. The developers, code writers, people-in-the-know, show
 respect where respect is warranted.

 Microsoft should recieve that respect IMO.

 90% of the desktop computers in the world use some version of Windows.
 More desktop computers use some form of Mac OS than all combined
 versions (distributions) of Linux.

 WINE? Is a nice concept. But it will never, again IMO, as long as the
 'Windows programs' that WINE can run are mostly really old DOS programs.

 Sheesh.
 -- 

 
 Perhaps you should do a little research before you spout off. Wine is
 capable of running very modern day applications that are written for the
 windows platform. It is anything but old dos programs.


Mr. Keating. May I call you Jessie? I know who you are and I respect you
a lot.

Would you please name some very modern day applications that are
written for the windows platform that will run in a Linux current
version of WINE? That will run under the currently available WINE in
Fedora 11. Names and versions. _Real_ applications. The ones that
ordinary 'users' want. Not the geeky ones that 'Linux geeks' want.

I am serious here. Really. The names are...?

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[Bug 506262] X crash - FreeType: couldn't open face /usr/share/fonts/cjkuni/ukai.ttc: 1

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[Bug 495399] Review Request: NotCourier-Sans-sfd-fonts - NotCourier Sans is a re-interpretation of Nimbus Mono.

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oflb-notcouriersans-fonts-1.1-1.fc10 has been pushed to the Fedora 10 testing
repository.  If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug
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 If you want to test the update, you can install it with 
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[Bug 507637] Missing fontset info

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cjkuni-fonts-0.2.20080216.1-26.fc11 has been pushed to the Fedora 11 testing
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[Bug 468193] Chinese fonts have changed file name

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[Issue 45128] Silent Failing is Bad Practice (Font fallback and Glyph Fallback)

2009-07-11 Thread jeremygharrison

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I would like to have voted for this issue. 

I find it most confusing (and would say wrong) that the font actually being used
is not that stated. 

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Re: [Fedora-legal-list] CC BY SA 3.0 unported or ported or ...

2009-07-11 Thread Karsten Wade

Any thoughts about this?

On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 07:27:36PM -0700, Karsten Wade wrote:
 I understand there are a few types of CC BY SA 3.0 license, ported and
 unported.
 
 http://monitor.creativecommons.org/Unported
 
 Which do we want to use when relicening all Fedora content and as our
 default license choice (for now)?  Or is it really a three-way choice?
 
 1. Ported only
 2. Unported only
 3. Ported where it exists, otherwise unported
 
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preupgrade fails F10 - F11

2009-07-11 Thread Janez Košmrlj

It downloads everything correctly, but after the reboot and start of the 
install process I get the message:

/usr/tmp is not a symlink

I checked this and on the hard drive /usr/tmp is a symlink to /var/tmp.

I tried a couple of times, but I get the same error every time.

Has anyone an idea how to fix this.


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Re: Samba configuration

2009-07-11 Thread g

alan duval wrote:

   [ printers ]
comment = All Printers
path = / var / spool /samba

no space before and after '/'.

 My question:  What should I change MIDEARTH to?

'workgroup' you use for your system and 'workgroup' you use for your
virtual box and what you put in 'smb.conf' should all be same.

 As I log on to Fedora as alan should I change it to alan?

alan is your 'user' name, not 'workgroup'. this allows you to have multi
users who can be in same 'workgroup'.

 Or should it be the name of a workgroup in my WIN XP virtual OS?

see above.

 Where does one get the netbios name from to enter in the script,

this i do not recall and i do not have samba on this box to see what i used.

therefore i suggest 'man smb.conf'

also, have a look at red hat deployment guide. latest is at;

http://www.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5/html/Deployment_Guide/

hth.


crash time. good night.

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Re: Upgrade from FC6 to FC11

2009-07-11 Thread Anthony Shipman

On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 04:47:07 am Jussi Lehtola wrote:
  This also means I'm almost not really upgrading anything.
  FC5-CentOS5 is similar to FC5-F6
  (ok, with some backports, I know)

 Exactly, such as firefox, openoffice and so on.

 (clip)

 Also, remember that Fedora EPEL has quite a lot of packages nowadays for
 RHEL(ish) distros, so you won't trade off in package availability as
 much as you think.

What about multi-media? Are packages such as mplayer, mp3 and video codecs etc 
available or buildable for Centos5.3?  I would use it as my desktop if so.

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Re: Upgrade from FC6 to FC11

2009-07-11 Thread Frank Cox

On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:50:26 +1000
Anthony Shipman wrote:

 What about multi-media? Are packages such as mplayer, mp3 and video codecs 
 etc 
 available or buildable for Centos5.3?  I would use it as my desktop if so.

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Re: Logging on ATT Yahoo Dial-Up with Linux

2009-07-11 Thread s


Roy Quick wrote:

July 9, 2009

Anybody, please advise me how to log on ATT Yahoo dial-up after 
installing Fedora.  Frustrated.  I have not be able to make connect 
after installing any Linux OS.  ATT Yahoo techs, of course, respond 
that they do not support Linux.  If impossible to log on with ATT 
Yahoo dial-up, please suggest another Internet Provider.  Tried a 
local Internet Provider recently.  Found it preventing updates.  
Dropped it.  Roy Quick roy.qu...@att.net


You did not mention which program you are using to make the dial-up 
connection. I always install both KDE and Gnome, then use KPPP for 
dial-up. You will have to edit the /etc/sysconfig/network file to add 
the line GATEWAYDEV=ppp0 (assuming ppp0 is your modem device). You may 
need to change the ppp0 to whatever your modem device is.


Are you using a winmodem? You may need to do some extra configuration. I 
don't know how well Fedora works with winmodems. I use an external 
serial modem.


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Re: How do I switch mirror for rpmfusion?

2009-07-11 Thread Jussi Lehtola

On Sat, 2009-07-11 at 01:10 -0400, gil...@altern.org wrote:
 I'm still having problems downloading from liberty.edu . Ex, installing
 kdenlive:

Check that you have the mirrorlist enabled in
the /etc/yum.repos.d/rpmfusion*.repo files and install
yum-fastestmirror.
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Re: Samsung Laser printers and F10/11?

2009-07-11 Thread Mike Cloaked




Tim Waugh wrote:
 
 On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 09:05 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
   *theoretically*, how should i have configured that printer?  because
 i should at least try it that way to see if the problem still exists.
 
 According to openprinting.org there is no free driver for that device
 (closest match shown):
 http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Samsung-SCX-4828FN
 
 So the Samsung supplied driver is the only option you have for that
 printer.
 
 

I came across what appears to be a useful post concerning the scanning
function of the scx-4500w (which I now have) at
http://www.nabble.com/Samsung-SCX-4500W-seems-to-work-td24293013.html

This post mentions using a slightly altered xerox backend file at
/etc/sane.d/xerox_mfp.conf

However in F10 under /etc/sane.d/ I don't find any xerox files in this
directory.  Can anyone point me to a guide on how to get hold of these
files, and also the steps needed to install/test in F10/11 and try this for
the scanning function of this printer?

Also in terms of the printing function I also came across the ppd file in
the Samsung official downloads for the printer - they have three tarballs
available (dated from a few months ago) with various applications for Linux
and within these files there is a file scx4500w.ppd that presumably be used
to drive the printer?  I have only ever used printers in the past that just
work in Linux so this is a new venture for me.  Is it possible using the
standard tools in F10/11 to install the ppd file and try to print from cups
in the usual way?  If so again can someone point me to a guide?

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cups configuration

2009-07-11 Thread François Patte

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Bonjour,

I want to configure cups on laptops so that people could add any printer
they want, and choose the default printer they want too.

I don't want to give them the root password.

What is possible, using the web interface, is to allow anybody to remove
tasks, even if they are not the owner of the task.

I want also that these permissions to add and choose the default
printer, will be be limited to the laptop only, I mean: if the laptop is
connected to a network, I don't want that these persmissions could be
automatically extended to any other cups server on the network.

Is this possible? And how?

Thanks



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Re: Java and font rendering on F11

2009-07-11 Thread Andrea


On 10/07/09 22:08, Andrea wrote:

Hi,

I've just installed Netbeans on F11 and I have to say that the quality
font used for menus and widgets is appaling.

The same happens to all other Java applications.

Basically the font is very small and thin (used for menus, buttons...)

In netbeans, I can change the font used in source code editor, but not
the rest of the GUI.

I don't seem to remember this happening on F9.



The font is so awful I cannot tell the difference between colon and semicolon!


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Re: 64-bit LXDE spin/remix

On 07/11/2009 04:29 AM, Globe Trotter wrote:

 Then you should forget other users testing and evaluating it and gauging 
 response

Thank you for your opinion but I have enough feedback necessary. We have
enough stats indicating that a large majority of users to continue to
use 32-bit systems and I won't be doing any more builds of this remix
and yes doing your own builds is a way to contribute if you are
interested. Good luck.

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Re: how many packages?

On 07/11/2009 01:39 AM, davide wrote:


 I was also interested in learning to build my onw packages for the few 
 bits I need...

Take a look at

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_an_RPM_package

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Re: Upgrade from FC6 to FC11

2009-07-11 Thread Bill Davidsen


Bruno Wolff III wrote:

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 19:25:50 +0200,
  Roberto Ragusa m...@robertoragusa.it wrote:

The system is on RAIDed disks, so I will disconnect one of them
as an easy rollback chance in case of unresolvable issues.


That's unlikely to work for you. See:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=188314

A bug is a case where software does not work as intended, the behavior you 
don't like is a design decision in that the software works exactly as 
intended, but you you don't like it. This should have been a request for 
enhancement all along.


Since there is a general use for more ability to create custom raid arrays, the 
ability to use an existing array would be useful. I find it particularly vexing 
that whoever wrote the raid code did not understand the difference between 
raid-10 and raid-1+0 and insists that at least four drives are needed to support 
raid-10, and the number must be even.


So put this in as an enhancement request to use existing arrays, see if that 
goes anywhere.


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Re: Random screen blanking -- a clue

2009-07-11 Thread brian


On 07/10/2009 10:49 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

Richard Shaw writes:


On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Sam
Varshavchikmr...@courier-mta.com wrote:


It's the screensaver. Something's causing it to trip, when it shouldn't.


I was hoping wasn't the only person having that problem! Anyone have
a solution other than disabling dpms?


Yes. Beer.


Beer, as a step towards a solution, is generally a good approach.

Another mee too here, btw. I was wondering if it was just my ancient 
CRT that was on its last legs but then came to the realisation that it 
looked more like  power management bug.



It's annoying, but it's not the end of the world. I can see why this may
be a problem if you're playing some game; except in that case, it's just
a minor annoyance.



I have to disagree with that. At best, it's a minor annoyance if one 
is working (read: trying to get stuff done).


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Re: cups configuration

On Sat, 2009-07-11 at 12:53 +0200, François Patte wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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 Bonjour,
 
 I want to configure cups on laptops so that people could add any printer
 they want, and choose the default printer they want too.
 
 I don't want to give them the root password.
 
 What is possible, using the web interface, is to allow anybody to remove
 tasks, even if they are not the owner of the task.
 
 I want also that these permissions to add and choose the default
 printer, will be be limited to the laptop only, I mean: if the laptop is
 connected to a network, I don't want that these persmissions could be
 automatically extended to any other cups server on the network.
 
 Is this possible? And how?
 
 Thanks
 
Making a laptop a cups swerver seems like a really bad idea. Laptops are
designed to move around onto different networks that would have
different pronters. As far as I know adding a pronter requires root
permisions although sudo may loosen that restriction. As far as I know
cups permissions on a cups server are limited to that server.
 
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Re: Logging on ATT Yahoo Dial-Up with Linux

2009-07-11 Thread Frank Murphy

On 11/07/09 13:56, Aaron Konstam wrote:
 On Sat, 2009-07-11 at 04:06 -0500, s wrote:
 Roy Quick wrote:
 July 9, 2009


 Are you using a winmodem? You may need to do some extra configuration. I 
 don't know how well Fedora works with winmodems. I use an external 
 serial modem.

 In my memory winmmodems don't work with Linux at all.

http://www.linmodems.org/


Regards,

Frank

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Re: Logging on ATT Yahoo Dial-Up with Linux

On Sat, 2009-07-11 at 04:06 -0500, s wrote:
 Roy Quick wrote:
  July 9, 2009
 
  Anybody, please advise me how to log on ATT Yahoo dial-up after 
  installing Fedora.  Frustrated.  I have not be able to make connect 
  after installing any Linux OS.  ATT Yahoo techs, of course, respond 
  that they do not support Linux.  If impossible to log on with ATT 
  Yahoo dial-up, please suggest another Internet Provider.  Tried a 
  local Internet Provider recently.  Found it preventing updates.  
  Dropped it.  Roy Quick roy.qu...@att.net
 
 You did not mention which program you are using to make the dial-up 
 connection. I always install both KDE and Gnome, then use KPPP for 
 dial-up. You will have to edit the /etc/sysconfig/network file to add 
 the line GATEWAYDEV=ppp0 (assuming ppp0 is your modem device). You may 
 need to change the ppp0 to whatever your modem device is.
 
 Are you using a winmodem? You may need to do some extra configuration. I 
 don't know how well Fedora works with winmodems. I use an external 
 serial modem.
 
In my memory winmmodems don't work with Linux at all.
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Re: how to kill mail threads i dont care about - someone w procmail skill?

2009-07-11 Thread Mail Lists

On 07/11/2009 12:50 AM, Todd Zullinger wrote:
 
 I've got one, and it looks quite a bit like what you outlined below in
 psuedo-code. ;)
 
 In my procmail config, I have these two recipes:

  This looks great thank you .. I will experiemnt.

gene/

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Re: cups configuration

2009-07-11 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson

François Patte wrote:
 Bonjour,
 
 I want to configure cups on laptops so that people could add any printer
 they want, and choose the default printer they want too.
 
 I don't want to give them the root password.
 
 What is possible, using the web interface, is to allow anybody to remove
 tasks, even if they are not the owner of the task.
 
 I want also that these permissions to add and choose the default
 printer, will be be limited to the laptop only, I mean: if the laptop is
 connected to a network, I don't want that these persmissions could be
 automatically extended to any other cups server on the network.
 
 Is this possible? And how?
 
It is already possible for each user to select their own default
printer. In Gnome, it is System -- Preferences -- Hardware --
Default Printer.

As far as giving permission to add/remove/change printers, you can
add the user to the system group. This will basically give full
access. Or you can add them to /etc/cups/cups.conf in the Require
user section of the desired access.

Mikkel
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Re: Samba configuration

2009-07-11 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson

alan duval wrote:
 I have been reading the Samba HowTo to figure out how to configure it so
 that a guest OS in VirtualBox can use the printer. The article gives the
 following example for the configuration file:
 
 
 Example 2.3.3 Anonymous Print Server smb.conf
  
 # Global parameters
   [ global ]
workgroup = MIDEARTH
netbios name = LUTHIEN
security = share
printcap name = cups
disable spoolss = Yes
show add printer wizard = No
printing = cups
   [ printers ]
comment = All Printers
path = / var / spool /samba
guest ok = Yes
printable = Yes
use client driver = Yes
browseable = No
  
 
 My question:  What should I change MIDEARTH to? 
 As I log on to Fedora as alan should I change it to alan? 
 Or should it be the name of a workgroup in my WIN XP virtual OS?
 
 Where does one get the netbios name from to enter in the script,
 bearing in mind that this is a standalone computer which a virtual OS
 wants to print to?
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Alan Duval
 
First, you should be able to use the stock Samba configuration file
- you may have to uncomment the gest ok = no on the printer
section and change it to yes.

Second, change MIDEARTH to what ever workgroup name your are using
with the guests. I believe the default is WORKGROUP.

Thisr, change LUTHIEN to what ever name you want this computer to
show up as when browsing the network. I usually take the hostname of
the computer. If the full name is name.system.com then call the
computer NAME.

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Re: Samsung Laser printers and F10/11?

2009-07-11 Thread Mail Lists

On 07/11/2009 05:47 AM, Mike Cloaked wrote:
 
 This post mentions using a slightly altered xerox backend file at
 /etc/sane.d/xerox_mfp.conf
 
 However in F10 under /etc/sane.d/ I don't find any xerox files in this
 directory.  Can anyone point me to a guide on how to get hold of these
 files, and also the steps needed to install/test in F10/11 and try this for
 the scanning function of this printer?


  It appears that this file is in 1.0.20 version of sane-backends which
was released at the beginning of May. (http://www.sane-project.org)

  Fedora is still on 1.0.10 .. so you may want to poke the maintainer to
update ?

 gene/

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Re: Samsung Laser printers and F10/11?

2009-07-11 Thread Mail Lists

On 07/11/2009 10:41 AM, Mail Lists wrote:
 On 07/11/2009 05:47 AM, Mike Cloaked wrote:

 This post mentions using a slightly altered xerox backend file at
 /etc/sane.d/xerox_mfp.conf

 However in F10 under /etc/sane.d/ I don't find any xerox files in this
 directory.  Can anyone point me to a guide on how to get hold of these
 files, and also the steps needed to install/test in F10/11 and try this for
 the scanning function of this printer?
 
 
   It appears that this file is in 1.0.20 version of sane-backends which
 was released at the beginning of May. (http://www.sane-project.org)
 
   Fedora is still on 1.0.10 .. so you may want to poke the maintainer to
 update ?
 

  Typo -  f10 and f11 are on 1.0.19 .. you probably still need 1.0.20.
You could just download from upstream perhaps ?

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Re: Samsung Laser printers and F10/11?

2009-07-11 Thread Mike Cloaked




Mail Lists-3 wrote:
 
 On 07/11/2009 10:41 AM, Mail Lists wrote:
 
   Typo -  f10 and f11 are on 1.0.19 .. you probably still need 1.0.20.
 You could just download from upstream perhaps ?
 
 

Yes indeed.  

By the way the Samsung driver stuff is at
http://www.samsung.com/uk/support/download/supportDown.do?group=printsolutionstype=printsolutionssubtype=monomultifunctionproductsmodel_nm=SCX-4500Wlanguage=cate_type=alldType=DmType=DRvType=prd_ia_cd=06010300disp_nm=SCX-4500Wmodel_cd=menu=download

and the ppd file scx4500w.ppd is in the directory
cdroot/Linux/noarch/at_opt/share/ppd/
in the Unified Linux Driver tarball once it is untarred.


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prelink segfault

2009-07-11 Thread Steve Searle

I am getting the following on one of my Fedora boxes.  Has anyone any
ideas how to tackle it.  I have reinstalled prelink.

/etc/cron.daily/prelink:

/etc/cron.daily/prelink: line 47:   594 Segmentation fault  
/usr/sbin/prelink -av $PRELINK_OPTS  /var/log/prelink/prelink.log 21

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Re: f11 - bt mouse random jump

2009-07-11 Thread Shannon McMackin


On 07/10/2009 11:10 PM, Mail Lists wrote:

  Since installing f11 (clean) - i have 2 blueooth mice - and randomly
the cursor jumps to the top left corner (applications button).

  Same problem on both - never had a problem on f10 (also was running gnome).



  Seems to be bluetooth mouse only ... anyone else seeing similar ?

  At first It seemed like it might be a touchpad thing on laptop - but it
happens with nothing touching the laptop at all - just hand on bt mouse.


I see it with a Targus BT mouse.  On my Lenovo T61...

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Re: mailing list pgp signatures...

2009-07-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan

On Sat, 2009-07-11 at 00:49 +, g wrote:
 another reason, at least as i was told, key servers do not verify who
 submits a key is actual owner of address.

The whole point of PGP-style signatures is the web of trust. If you
don't get someone's public key directly from them (e.g. at a key-signing
party) or from an intermediary that you both trust sufficiently, you
basically know nothing about the sender.

The point of key servers is not to verify anything, it's to make keys
easily accessible. Using a public key and not putting it on a key server
means a random reader can't even verify that a succession of messages
were signed with the same key (the only info in the signature itself is
the Key ID, which is fakable with enough effort). Putting it on a key
server without an independant verification channel does at least allow a
motivated reader to check with high confidence that a bunch of messages
use the same key, but doesn't allow them to check if they were signed by
the correct person.

And in conclusion: the use of signatures (even registered ones) on
large, essentially anonymous, mailing lists is at best debatable. What
exactly do people expect to gain from this? Signatures were invented in
large part to allow integrity and non-repudiation of messages. If I see
a message purportedly from myself on this list and I didn't send it,
I'll be very quick to repudiate it. Has this ever happened in anyone's
memory?

poc

PS I highly recommend a Stanford paper from a few years back, entitled
Why Johnny Can't Encrypt. Google for it, it's very illuminating.

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Re: Random screen blanking -- a clue

2009-07-11 Thread Shannon McMackin


On 07/10/2009 10:10 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

There's been a steady trickle of complaints from different folks about
their screens going blank for a second, or two, after upgrading to F11.

I've observed this too -- it happens on one of my laptops every couple
of days, or so. I've always had the impression that, for some reason,
this was the screensaver kicking in. They way that happened always gave
me that idea.

I'm now pretty sure that, sometimes, for some reason the screensaver
kicks in even though the system is not idle. I just finished typing, and
began reading something on the screen, when the screen went black about
three seconds after I stopped typing.

I did nothing, and the screen continued to stay black. After waiting
about ten seconds, I pressed the shift key, and my desktop came back.

It's the screensaver. Something's causing it to trip, when it shouldn't.

Happens on my Lenovo T61.  Usually just goes out for a second or 2 and 
then comes back.


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Re: mailing list pgp signatures...

2009-07-11 Thread Steven W. Orr

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On 07/10/09 23:34, quoth Steven W. Orr:
 On 07/10/09 18:47, quoth Mikkel L. Ellertson:
 David, one way to solve the problem is to write a filter rule that
 sends g's messages directly to trash.
 
 New entry in my access file
 From:gel...@bellsouth.net   REJECT 553 PGP signing with no public key.

Interesting. The little bastard got through at 4:45AM so the access trick
doesn't work. The reason it failed was because the From address wasn't geleem.
It was really fedora-list-bounces. So I added a blacklist_from to my
spamassassin local.cf. Assuming this works and he gets the message then the
only way I'll get notified is if someone else tells me.

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Re: mailing list pgp signatures...

2009-07-11 Thread David

On 7/10/2009 11:34 PM, Steven W. Orr wrote:
 On 07/10/09 18:47, quoth Mikkel L. Ellertson:
 David, one way to solve the problem is to write a filter rule that
 sends g's messages directly to trash.
 
 New entry in my access file
 From:gel...@bellsouth.net   REJECT 553 PGP signing with no public key.


For some reason this has not made it to the list. I apologize if this
shows up twice.


I was trying to advise him that he should do the correct thing. I failed
at that. His GunPG signature is a waste of time, his time and my time,
since it can not be verified that it is even his signature.

I did not want to /null/void his posts. With his 'nasty' reply he has
given me no other choice. His posts will now be deleted directly from
the email server before downloading.

Sad thing about that is that if, in the future, he should decide to use
GnuPG properly I'll never know.

BTW. You did notice that I made no comment on his excessively long and
rambling 'signature'.  :-)

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Re: How do I switch mirror for rpmfusion?

2009-07-11 Thread gilpel

Jussi Lehtola wrote:

 On Sat, 2009-07-11 at 01:10 -0400, gil...@altern.org wrote:
 I'm still having problems downloading from liberty.edu . Ex, installing
kdenlive:

 Check that you have the mirrorlist enabled in
 the /etc/yum.repos.d/rpmfusion*.repo files and install
 yum-fastestmirror.

You and Leo provide together a very complete answer, but yours would be
the easiest for newbies, mainly that once installed yum-fastestmirror is
enabled by default in

less /etc/yum/pluginconf.d/fastestmirror.conf

[main]
enabled=1
verbose=0
always_print_best_host = true
socket_timeout=3
hostfilepath=/var/cache/yum/timedhosts.txt
maxhostfileage=10
maxthreads=15

Why isn't this the default?

Thanks for your outstanding support, folks! It's really appreciated.




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Re: 64-bit LXDE spin/remix

--- On Sat, 7/11/09, Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote:

 From: Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org
 Subject: Re: 64-bit LXDE spin/remix
 To: Globe Trotter itsme_...@yahoo.com
 Cc: encouragement and advice for using Fedora.Community assistance 
 fedora-list@redhat.com
 Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 8:05 AM
 On 07/11/2009 04:29 AM, Globe Trotter
 wrote:

  Then you should forget other users testing and
 evaluating it and gauging response

 Thank you for your opinion but I have enough feedback
 necessary. We have
 enough stats indicating that a large majority of users to
 continue to
 use 32-bit systems and I won't be doing any more builds of
 this remix
 and yes doing your own builds is a way to contribute if you
 are
 interested. Good luck.

So, your response to Christoph when you appropriated his hard work, reducing 
him to a byline, was just something made up to extricate yourself from an 
indefensible situation?

Your response on 32-bit systems is puerile: there has been no claim made that a 
large majority of users use 32-bit systems. Besides, how do you know anything 
about 64-bit or other systems in this case, since there is no way you can find 
out anything about these other systems, once again in this case?

I am pretty certain that all new chips are 64-bit: of course, users should 
continue to use older 32-bit systems if they have any, but you are shutting off 
development of the LXDE spin to the newer chips.

I fail to see how everyone with his/her own private remixes/spins can 
contribute to the building of an official Fedora remix/spin.

Arrogance and whim are not good open-source values: they are best left behind 
for the closed-source worldas is appropriation which is sort of how windoze 
started

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Re: 64-bit LXDE spin/remix

On 07/11/2009 09:40 PM, Globe Trotter wrote:

 
 So, your response to Christoph when you appropriated his hard work, reducing 
 him to a byline, was just something made up to extricate yourself from an 
 indefensible situation?

What is so indefensible about saying that I don't have a 64-bit system
to create a 64-bit variant for you nor do I have the time to test more
variants?  As far as I can see, you want a 64-bit variant and you seem
upset that I didn't volunteer my time to create that for you.

 Your response on 32-bit systems is puerile: there has been no claim made that 
 a large majority of users use 32-bit systems. 

Actually, there is clear evidence for this. See smolt.org stats for
example.

 I fail to see how everyone with his/her own private remixes/spins can 
 contribute to the building of an official Fedora remix/spin.

It is fairly easy, take the kickstart file, do your own builds and
report problems or other feedback to the package maintainers and remix
or spin maintainers.

 Arrogance and whim are not good open-source values: they are best left behind 
 for the closed-source worldas is appropriation which is sort of how 
 windoze started

You have thrown such accusations at me before for no good reason. This
course of discussion is not constructive. I suggest you use your energy
in a better way.

Rahul

Ps: Your mail client doesn't line wrap properly.

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Preup F10-F11: Eclipse looses Java and SVN capabilities

2009-07-11 Thread Oliver Ruebenacker

 Hello, All,

  I just upgraded from F10 to F11 with the preupgrade that popped up
spontaneously. Now, when I open Eclipse, it seems to have lost all its
Java and SVN capabilities. The SVN plugins still are listed as
installed, and I don't know what components Eclipse needs to do Java.

  Any thoughts? Thanks!

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Taking a beating with Windoze 7 pricing


I liked this article, so thought I would share

http://blogs.computerworld.com/taking_a_beating_with_windows_7_pricing#comment-149481


Meanwhile, there is an older article which I had not seen before:

http://blogs.computerworld.com/macs_windows_7_and_linux

Enjoy!


  

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Re: Upgrade from FC6 to FC11

2009-07-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III

On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 08:57:54 -0400,
  Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote:

 Since there is a general use for more ability to create custom raid 
 arrays, the ability to use an existing array would be useful. I find it 
 particularly vexing that whoever wrote the raid code did not understand 
 the difference between raid-10 and raid-1+0 and insists that at least 
 four drives are needed to support raid-10, and the number must be even.

 So put this in as an enhancement request to use existing arrays, see if 
 that goes anywhere.

The people who control this do not think raid 1 arrays with one element
should be supported for installs. I am not that interested in raid 10. If
there is an incorrect limitation on the number of elements for that type of an
array, someone who knows more about it should make that request.

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Re: Upgrade from FC6 to FC11

2009-07-11 Thread Bill Davidsen


Bruno Wolff III wrote:

On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 08:57:54 -0400,
  Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote:
  
Since there is a general use for more ability to create custom raid 
arrays, the ability to use an existing array would be useful. I find it 
particularly vexing that whoever wrote the raid code did not understand 
the difference between raid-10 and raid-1+0 and insists that at least 
four drives are needed to support raid-10, and the number must be even.


So put this in as an enhancement request to use existing arrays, see if 
that goes anywhere.



The people who control this do not think raid 1 arrays with one element
should be supported for installs. I am not that interested in raid 10. If
there is an incorrect limitation on the number of elements for that type of an
array, someone who knows more about it should make that request.

  
The point is that since you have the problem which would be solved by 
using existing raid arrays, and you have been trying without success to 
get action as a bug for years, you might be the person to present this 
as an enhancement request to use existing raid arrays, since that would 
solve other people's problems as well as yours, and get you some support 
from people who would also be helped. You don't have to know much about 
raid-10 to say use existing arrays, people who know tricks will take 
it from there, including you.


Or you can go another four years trying to get someone to agree that 
it's a bug, and explicit support for degraded arrays should be added.


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Gedit doesn't like root

2009-07-11 Thread gilpel

I just removed Totem to repalce it by MPlayer, which is suggested by
Radio-Canada to read its video. I had many applications open, maybe I
should have closed them... It finally took more than half an hour to
install Mplayer and this, with yum-fastestmirror installed!

Anyways, it might have nothing to do but, when I tried to edit
/etc/yum/pluginconf.d/fastestmirror.conf as root afterwards, -- I thought
verbose mode was preferable -- I received about 3 full screens of the
following text:

GConf Error: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes
are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale
NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for
information. (Details -  1: Failed to get connection to session: Did not
receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not
send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply
timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.)

There seems to be a little problem here.

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Re: Upgrade from FC6 to FC11

2009-07-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III

On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 13:11:53 -0400,
  Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote:
   
 The point is that since you have the problem which would be solved by  
 using existing raid arrays, and you have been trying without success to  
 get action as a bug for years, you might be the person to present this  
 as an enhancement request to use existing raid arrays, since that would  
 solve other people's problems as well as yours, and get you some support  
 from people who would also be helped. You don't have to know much about  
 raid-10 to say use existing arrays, people who know tricks will take  
 it from there, including you.

I asked for it as an enhancement and had discussions on mailing lists.
The anaconda guys don't want to allow raid 1 arrays with one element
to be used during installs. They are aware of the arguments and have said
no. At this point I think the only factor that might change their minds is
how many people want this use case. They already know I want it, so my
pestering them again doesn't add anything.

 Or you can go another four years trying to get someone to agree that  
 it's a bug, and explicit support for degraded arrays should be added.

I already talked about it with them as an enhancement. Just because there
isn't RFE in the summary or a futurefeature keyword, doesn't mean it wasn't
considered and rejected as an enhancement. Also note that I also argued
for nondegraded raid 1 arrays with one element (which is not the same as
a degraded array that normally has two elements) and that was rejected
as well. The farthest they have gone is saying that they are willing
to leave extra unused space so that you could make an partition into a
raid array after the fact. I think that is not a good direction to go
in for several reasons and don't want to pursue that.

I have other Fedora things needing doing, so I am not going to spend my
limited time championing changes in raid 10 configruation restrictions
when I don't use it and don't know much about its details.

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Scanning over network in Fedora 11

2009-07-11 Thread Klaus-Peter Schrage


I want to setup network scanning in Fedora, but no success.
I try to describe my setup in a quite detailed manner:

1. My scanner works fine locally:

$ scanimage -L
device `snapscan:libusb:004:003' is a AGFA SNAPSCAN 1212U_2 flatbed scanner

2. I have the  configured like this in /etc/sane.d/saned.conf:

...
192.168.2.0/24
localhost

(my local network is 192.168.2.XXX)

3. In /etc/services ther are the proper ports listed:

sane-port   6566/tcp# SANE Control Port
sane-port   6566/udp# SANE Control Port

4. saned is started from xinetd, configured like this:

# /etc/xinetd.d/sane
# Sane network access
service sane-port
{
disable= no
socket_type = stream
protocol= tcp
wait= no
user= kp
   server  = /usr/sbin/saned
}

(kp is my user)

5. Now I try to check if saned is running properly:

$ telnet localhost 6566
gives this output:

Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.

6.  But whenever I telnet to saned remotely, even from this very machine 
using it's ip address, I get:


Trying 192.168.2.35...
Connected to 192.168.2.35.
Escape character is '^]'.
Connection closed by foreign host.

7. So I ran sane in debug mode (saned -d128, with the daemon stopped), 
and I got the following error messages from step 6:


...
[saned] saned (AF-indep+IPv6) from sane-backends 1.0.19 ready
[saned] check_host: access by remote host: 192.168.2.35
[saned] check_host: remote host is not IN_LOOPBACK nor IN6_LOOPBACK
[saned] check_host: local hostname: kellercomputer.kralenriede.de
[saned] check_host: getaddrinfo failed: No address associated with hostname
[saned] init: access by host 192.168.2.35 denied
[saned] quit: exiting

8. BTW, the firewall is turned off.

Now, what may have gone wrong?

Any help would be greately appreciated,
Klaus












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Re: Scanning over network in Fedora 11

2009-07-11 Thread Sam Varshavchik


Klaus-Peter Schrage writes:

6.  But whenever I telnet to saned remotely, even from this very machine 
using it's ip address, I get:


Trying 192.168.2.35...
Connected to 192.168.2.35.
Escape character is '^]'.
Connection closed by foreign host.

7. So I ran sane in debug mode (saned -d128, with the daemon stopped), 
and I got the following error messages from step 6:


...
[saned] saned (AF-indep+IPv6) from sane-backends 1.0.19 ready
[saned] check_host: access by remote host: 192.168.2.35
[saned] check_host: remote host is not IN_LOOPBACK nor IN6_LOOPBACK
[saned] check_host: local hostname: kellercomputer.kralenriede.de
[saned] check_host: getaddrinfo failed: No address associated with hostname
[saned] init: access by host 192.168.2.35 denied
[saned] quit: exiting

8. BTW, the firewall is turned off.

Now, what may have gone wrong?


What the error message says: getaddrinfo failed: No address associated with 
hostname.


The DNS lookup for kellercomputer.kralenriede.de failed. You need to fix 
your DNS.





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Re: 64-bit LXDE spin/remix

On 07/11/2009 11:01 PM, Globe Trotter wrote:

 No question, but the line you took out from my response says that there is no 
 way you can measure interest in 64-bit or other LXDE since there is no way 
 this can be gauged since it is not provided.

Yes, but my point is that since 32-bit downloads and use is the majority
by far, the feedback from users using that architecture is going to be
naturally more and therefore for the purposes of getting more feedback,
that is architecture more developers are going to target.  This is
something quite obvious. If you are put off by that, I can't help you.

 Yes, but the step-by-step instructions are far from clear. Also, I would 
 perhaps add some of my own rpms that i believe should be in...

What is not clear?

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_a_Live_CD

If you have specific questions, feel free to ask.

Rahul

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Re: prelink segfault

2009-07-11 Thread stan

On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:21:35 +0100
Steve Searle st...@stevesearle.com wrote:

 I am getting the following on one of my Fedora boxes.  Has anyone any
 ideas how to tackle it.  I have reinstalled prelink.
 
 /etc/cron.daily/prelink:
 
 /etc/cron.daily/prelink: line 47:   594 Segmentation
 fault  /usr/sbin/prelink -av $PRELINK_OPTS
  /var/log/prelink/prelink.log 21
 
 Steve
 
F11 x86_64

I had never looked in detail at prelink operation before.  I looked at
the script in /etc/cron.daily and line 47 is after everything has been
resolved and it is running the prelink.

I then looked at /var/log/prelink/prelink.log and there were *lots* of
executables that couldn't be prelinked because libraries they used
couldn't be prelinked.  At the top of the file was the actual command
that was run (line 46 in the cron.daily script puts it in the log).
Look at the end to see if prelink wrote any pertinent information about
what it was doing when the seg fault happened.  It seems unlikely but
worth a shot.

Then I would suggest, as root, run 
strace (the command at the top of the log file)  | less
When it hits the executable it is trying to prelink that causes the
segmentation fault, you will know which executable it is and the
library it is trying to link.  This will probably take a long time and
there will be lots of output as most prelinks will probably succeed.

That should enable you to open a bugzilla against prelink.  Or remove
the package with the executable that is causing the problem and try
again.  No error, you have your culprit.

At least this should enable you to take the next step in resolving the
issue.

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Re: 64-bit LXDE spin/remix



 What is so indefensible about saying that I don't have a
 64-bit system
 to create a 64-bit variant for you nor do I have the time
 to test more
 variants?  As far as I can see, you want a 64-bit
 variant and you seem
 upset that I didn't volunteer my time to create that for
 you.


Actually, I am put off by your responses, not by your legitimate point that you 
do not have access to a 64-bit system.

  Your response on 32-bit systems is puerile: there has
 been no claim made that a large majority of users use
 32-bit systems. 
 
 Actually, there is clear evidence for this. See smolt.org
 stats for
 example.

No question, but the line you took out from my response says that there is no 
way you can measure interest in 64-bit or other LXDE since there is no way this 
can be gauged since it is not provided.

 
  I fail to see how everyone with his/her own private
 remixes/spins can contribute to the building of an official
 Fedora remix/spin.
 
 It is fairly easy, take the kickstart file, do your own
 builds and
 report problems or other feedback to the package
 maintainers and remix
 or spin maintainers.

Yes, but the step-by-step instructions are far from clear. Also, I would 
perhaps add some of my own rpms that i believe should be in...

 
  Arrogance and whim are not good open-source values:
 they are best left behind for the closed-source worldas
 is appropriation which is sort of how windoze started
 
 You have thrown such accusations at me before for no good
 reason. This
 course of discussion is not constructive. I suggest you use
 your energy
 in a better way.

Good! I guess we agree that these are not good values. 
 
 Rahul
 
 Ps: Your mail client doesn't line wrap properly.

This is the virtues of using a commercial mailer...



  

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Re: 64-bit LXDE spin/remix



 
  Yes, but the step-by-step instructions are far from
 clear. Also, I would perhaps add some of my own rpms that i
 believe should be in...
 
 What is not clear?
 
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_a_Live_CD
 
 If you have specific questions, feel free to ask.

1. I guess I need F11 running to use your ks? 

2. Do I also need all those rpms in the ks installed?

3. Do I need to put in your ks in the /usr/share/spin-kickstarts? Or provide 
the path to the file in the --config option?




  

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Re: How do I switch mirror for rpmfusion?

2009-07-11 Thread Kam Leo

On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 10:14 AM, gil...@altern.org wrote:
Jussi Lehtola wrote:

On Sat, 2009-07-11 at 01:10 -0400, gil...@altern.org wrote:
I'm still having problems downloading from liberty.edu . Ex, installing
kdenlive:

Check that you have the mirrorlist enabled in
the /etc/yum.repos.d/rpmfusion*.repo files and install
yum-fastestmirror.

You and Leo provide together a very complete answer, but yours would be
the easiest for newbies, mainly that once installed yum-fastestmirror is
enabled by default in

less /etc/yum/pluginconf.d/fastestmirror.conf

[main]
enabled=1
verbose=0
always_print_best_host = true
socket_timeout=3
hostfilepath=/var/cache/yum/timedhosts.txt
maxhostfileage=10
maxthreads=15

Why isn't this the default?

From
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/SoftwareManagementGuide/CustomizingYum#Fastest_Mirror_Plugin

Fastest Mirror Plugin

Yum in Fedora uses a dynamic server side mirror management
infrastructure that distributes the bandwidth consumptions on each of
these mirrors by automatically directing the update to one of the
geographically closest mirrors. This mirror is automatically checked
against the master server for consistency.

The fastest mirror plugin enhances the speed of updates by maintaining
a local offline hostfile cache of the speed of the mirrors. It sorts
the mirror list by speed and prioritizes the faster ones for package
downloads. This plugin is not installed by default. For installing it,
use the following command or from the Applications menu use Add/Remove
Software.

Let us know if liberty.edu is picked by fastestmirror. I'm betting
that it does. (There are only 21 public mirrors listed for rpmfusion
and mirrors.liberty.edu is the fastest and closest geographically to
you.)

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Re: 64-bit LXDE spin/remix

On 07/11/2009 11:54 PM, Globe Trotter wrote:

 What is not clear?

 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_a_Live_CD

 If you have specific questions, feel free to ask.
 
 1. I guess I need F11 running to use your ks? 

Yes. That would be the easiest way to do it.

 2. Do I also need all those rpms in the ks installed?

livecd-creator will download them as needed. You don't need to have them
installed. Use -cache argument to not have to download it everytime.

 3. Do I need to put in your ks in the /usr/share/spin-kickstarts? Or provide 
 the path to the file in the --config option?

Where you put it doesn't matter as long as you point livecd-creator to
it with the config argument.

Rahul

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Re: Random screen blanking -- a clue

2009-07-11 Thread Matthew Saltzman

On Sat, 2009-07-11 at 11:26 -0400, Shannon McMackin wrote:
 On 07/10/2009 10:10 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
  There's been a steady trickle of complaints from different folks about
  their screens going blank for a second, or two, after upgrading to F11.
 
  I've observed this too -- it happens on one of my laptops every couple
  of days, or so. I've always had the impression that, for some reason,
  this was the screensaver kicking in. They way that happened always gave
  me that idea.
 
  I'm now pretty sure that, sometimes, for some reason the screensaver
  kicks in even though the system is not idle. I just finished typing, and
  began reading something on the screen, when the screen went black about
  three seconds after I stopped typing.
 
  I did nothing, and the screen continued to stay black. After waiting
  about ten seconds, I pressed the shift key, and my desktop came back.
 
  It's the screensaver. Something's causing it to trip, when it shouldn't.
 
 Happens on my Lenovo T61.  Usually just goes out for a second or 2 and 
 then comes back.

Happens on my T61 (nVidia driver) too.  Last time, I just waited and it
didn't return until I touched the touchpad.

 
 
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F-10 nfs server to Mac client -

2009-07-11 Thread Bob Goodwin



   I have an Apple Mac OSX 10.4 box I would like to connect as a client
   to my F-10 nfs server.

   Can anyone point me to a procedure for setting up the Mac client?
   About all I know is that the Mac can ping the server. Most of the
   Mac GUI stuff leaves me wondering what to enter into the boxes.

   Bob


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Re: How do I switch mirror for rpmfusion?

2009-07-11 Thread stan

On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:22:51 -0700
Konstantin Svist fry@gmail.com wrote:

 gil...@altern.org wrote:
  Why isn't this the default?

 
 
 Probably because it doesn't work too well.
 The way it works is by pinging the IPs of all mirrors to see which one
 has the smallest latency. In a perfect world, that would be the source
 you want to use, but in reality all it tells you is which mirror's
 firewall/etc. responds to ping fastest.
 What happens is the server is either lagging or becomes overloaded
 fast (possibly because many users are trying to update from it) so
 the speed goes down the drain.
 End result: I have 3mb download on my DSL line, but using the fastest
 mirror often gives me 50K (or even lower) download speed. Sometimes I
 end up editing the timedhosts.txt file and faking a long timeout value
 for the slow host.
 
 
 
I turned it off for exactly the reason you cite above.  This isn't a
measure of a fastest mirror.  I think it would be really great if yum
would keep track of the mirrors used and the actual download rate
obtained over time with each mirror. It would have to be a weighted
update of speed averaging past total at past speed and current total
and current speed. Then instead of always using the fastest mirror, take
the top N (20?, user selectable?) fastest mirrors and share the load
among them. Set a size threshold so that only files above a certain
size (2 MB?, 1MB?, 500K?) are taken from the fastest mirrors, let any
other files come from anywhere.  If a file is 20K in size, the speed of
the download isn't really relevant. This shares the load and ensures
that certain servers don't get hit by everyone, thus degrading their
performance and stressing them unfairly.

I've thought about writing a plugin to do this, but haven't made it
yet.  The fastest mirror plugin would be a good template.

Mostly, I have just decided to run yum manually at slack times when it
doesn't matter how fast it is, and it just does its thing.  

On a related note, it would be nice if at some level of logging, yum
printed the url of the mirror used for the download with the download
rate. Then I could create my own crude version of the above algorithm
just by parsing the log output and creating my own database or file
with the information.

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Re: How do I switch mirror for rpmfusion?

2009-07-11 Thread Konstantin Svist

gil...@altern.org wrote:
 Why isn't this the default?
   


Probably because it doesn't work too well.
The way it works is by pinging the IPs of all mirrors to see which one
has the smallest latency. In a perfect world, that would be the source
you want to use, but in reality all it tells you is which mirror's
firewall/etc. responds to ping fastest.
What happens is the server is either lagging or becomes overloaded fast
(possibly because many users are trying to update from it) so the speed
goes down the drain.
End result: I have 3mb download on my DSL line, but using the fastest
mirror often gives me 50K (or even lower) download speed. Sometimes I
end up editing the timedhosts.txt file and faking a long timeout value
for the slow host.



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Re: Scanning over network in Fedora 11

2009-07-11 Thread Klaus-Peter Schrage


Am 11.07.2009 20:00, schrieb Anthony Messina:



in my xinetd, my service file is sane-port not just sane
(/etc/xinetd.d/sane-port)

not sure if you're using tcpwrappers or not, but you may need the following in
/etc/hosts.allow

sane-port: 192.168.2.0/255.255.255.0
saned: 192.168.2.0/255.255.255.0

and in /etc/sane.d/dll.conf, the net must be uncommented.

you may also need to expand your sane-port xinetd service definition.  mine
looks like:

service sane-port
 {
 disable = no
 port = 6566
 socket_type = stream
 protocol = tcp
 wait = no
 user = nobody
 group = nobody
 server = /usr/sbin/saned
 only_from = 192.168.2.0/24
 bind = 192.168.2.3
 flags = IPv4
 }

it all works here.  -a



Thanks, Anthony,

I've tried your suggestions one after the other, but still no success:

- rename service file
- adding lines to hosts.allow (I don't use tcpwrappers anyway)
- net was already uncommented in dll.conf
- using you service file (with bind=192.168.2.35, which is my host's ip)

Klaus

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Re: Scanning over network in Fedora 11

2009-07-11 Thread Anthony Messina

On Saturday 11 July 2009 12:46:47 pm Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote:
 I want to setup network scanning in Fedora, but no success.
 I try to describe my setup in a quite detailed manner:

 1. My scanner works fine locally:

 $ scanimage -L
 device `snapscan:libusb:004:003' is a AGFA SNAPSCAN 1212U_2 flatbed scanner

 2. I have the  configured like this in /etc/sane.d/saned.conf:

 ...
 192.168.2.0/24
 localhost

 (my local network is 192.168.2.XXX)

 3. In /etc/services ther are the proper ports listed:

 sane-port   6566/tcp# SANE Control Port
 sane-port   6566/udp# SANE Control Port

 4. saned is started from xinetd, configured like this:

 # /etc/xinetd.d/sane
 # Sane network access
 service sane-port
 {
  disable= no
  socket_type = stream
  protocol= tcp
  wait= no
  user= kp
 server  = /usr/sbin/saned
 }

 (kp is my user)

 5. Now I try to check if saned is running properly:

 $ telnet localhost 6566
 gives this output:

 Trying 127.0.0.1...
 Connected to localhost.
 Escape character is '^]'.

 6.  But whenever I telnet to saned remotely, even from this very machine
 using it's ip address, I get:

 Trying 192.168.2.35...
 Connected to 192.168.2.35.
 Escape character is '^]'.
 Connection closed by foreign host.

 7. So I ran sane in debug mode (saned -d128, with the daemon stopped),
 and I got the following error messages from step 6:

 ...
 [saned] saned (AF-indep+IPv6) from sane-backends 1.0.19 ready
 [saned] check_host: access by remote host: 192.168.2.35
 [saned] check_host: remote host is not IN_LOOPBACK nor IN6_LOOPBACK
 [saned] check_host: local hostname: kellercomputer.kralenriede.de
 [saned] check_host: getaddrinfo failed: No address associated with hostname
 [saned] init: access by host 192.168.2.35 denied
 [saned] quit: exiting

 8. BTW, the firewall is turned off.

 Now, what may have gone wrong?

 Any help would be greately appreciated,
 Klaus

in my xinetd, my service file is sane-port not just sane 
(/etc/xinetd.d/sane-port)

not sure if you're using tcpwrappers or not, but you may need the following in 
/etc/hosts.allow

sane-port: 192.168.2.0/255.255.255.0
saned: 192.168.2.0/255.255.255.0

and in /etc/sane.d/dll.conf, the net must be uncommented.

you may also need to expand your sane-port xinetd service definition.  mine 
looks like:

service sane-port
{
disable = no
port = 6566
socket_type = stream
protocol = tcp
wait = no
user = nobody
group = nobody
server = /usr/sbin/saned
only_from = 192.168.2.0/24
bind = 192.168.2.3
flags = IPv4
}

it all works here.  -a


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Re: 64-bit LXDE spin/remix

2009-07-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III

On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 11:24:39 -0700,
  Globe Trotter itsme_...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 2. Do I also need all those rpms in the ks installed?

When building a livecd (or livedvd) image you don't need to have every
package that will end up in the image installed on the system doing the
build. The rpms will be needed, so if you don't have a local repo, they
will need to be downloaded as part of the build process.

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Re: 64-bit LXDE spin/remix

--- On Sat, 7/11/09, Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote:

 From: Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org
 Subject: Re: 64-bit LXDE spin/remix
 To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. 
 fedora-list@redhat.com
 Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 2:29 PM
 On 07/11/2009 11:54 PM, Globe Trotter
 wrote:

  What is not clear?

  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_a_Live_CD

  If you have specific questions, feel free to ask.

  1. I guess I need F11 running to use your ks? 

 Yes. That would be the easiest way to do it.

So, is it possible to run F10 and create a F11 LiveCD? If so, how?

  2. Do I also need all those rpms in the ks installed?

 livecd-creator will download them as needed. You don't need
 to have them
 installed. Use -cache argument to not have to download it
 everytime.

  3. Do I need to put in your ks in the
 /usr/share/spin-kickstarts? Or provide the path to the file
 in the --config option?

 Where you put it doesn't matter as long as you point
 livecd-creator to
 it with the config argument.

 Rahul

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Sage and F11

2009-07-11 Thread Matthew Saltzman

Sage worked fine for me with F10, but after a fresh install of F11, I
can't get sage to start.  Error messages below.  Does anybody know a
fix?

Thanks.

$ sage
--
| Sage Version 4.0.2, Release Date: 2009-06-18   |
| Type notebook() for the GUI, and license() for information.|
--
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/local/sage/local/bin/sage-ipython, line 18, in module
import IPython
  File 
/usr/local/sage-4.0.2-linux-Fedora_release_10_Cambridge-x86_64-Linux/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/IPython/__init__.py,
 line 58, in module
__import__(name,glob,loc,[])
  File 
/usr/local/sage-4.0.2-linux-Fedora_release_10_Cambridge-x86_64-Linux/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/IPython/ipstruct.py,
 line 22, in module
from IPython.genutils import list2dict2
  File 
/usr/local/sage-4.0.2-linux-Fedora_release_10_Cambridge-x86_64-Linux/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/IPython/genutils.py,
 line 59, in module
from IPython.external.path import path
  File 
/usr/local/sage-4.0.2-linux-Fedora_release_10_Cambridge-x86_64-Linux/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/IPython/external/path.py,
 line 35, in module
import md5
  File 
/usr/local/sage-4.0.2-linux-Fedora_release_10_Cambridge-x86_64-Linux/local/lib/python/md5.py,
 line 6, in module
from hashlib import md5
  File 
/usr/local/sage-4.0.2-linux-Fedora_release_10_Cambridge-x86_64-Linux/local/lib/python/hashlib.py,
 line 133, in module
md5 = __get_builtin_constructor('md5')
  File 
/usr/local/sage-4.0.2-linux-Fedora_release_10_Cambridge-x86_64-Linux/local/lib/python/hashlib.py,
 line 60, in __get_builtin_constructor
import _md5
ImportError: No module named _md5

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Re: Scanning over network in Fedora 11

2009-07-11 Thread Klaus-Peter Schrage


Am 11.07.2009 20:14, schrieb Sam Varshavchik:



The DNS lookup for kellercomputer.kralenriede.de failed. You need to
fix your DNS.



Thanks, Sam,

I even had it (kellercomputer) in my /etc/hosts file, but not the fully 
qualified host name. Adding this finally solved it. There are lots of 
ways to go wrong ...


Klaus

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Triple boot windows, fedora, and rawhide

2009-07-11 Thread Mike Chambers

I dual boot windows and fedora a normal basis and have no problems with
it getting setup.  What I would like to do now, is to setup a triple
boot as mentioned in subject line.  That can be one of two ways,
installing rawhide itself (problems lately and am watching for
installing to be fixed), or to install F11 and update to rawhide.

Now, I have never dual booted linuxes before, so this is the part I
don't understand how or what to do to get this right.  I tried this
morning doing this and sort of got it working, but few things I couldn't
figure out and have since resetup just dual boot windows and F11.

So, questions I would have to understand is this, and beware that I
already have space ready for install.  Anyway, what I guess I need to
know is...

1 - When going to install F11 (again) or rawhide, should either detect
my current windows/linux installs and ask to install grub and include
those stanzas?  (Neither detected the other, maybe still rewrite
problems for storage at this stage for this stuff?)

2 - Even if not detected how do I add the missing stanza and is it
basically same already ahve just with diff partitions and kernel
versions?

3 - Which grub is installed to mbr and is the other installed to the 1st
partition of it's install or what?  What should the mbr config and the
1st partitions look like?

4 - Should the two installs share /boot dirs so they can read the
kernels and auto update grub.conf when needed?  How does that work if
not?

P.S. I have been googling this (maybe I am wording it wrong) and not
getting real good info to explain my best course of action.  Am still
googling now to keep trying but am exhausting my efforts.

Thanks ahead of time,

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F11 (Thpd T30) : reproducible display loss

2009-07-11 Thread Beartooth


To my great satisfaction, it became possible shortly before the 
release of F11 to run two of my four legacy suites of proprietary GPS/
topo map software under wine.The two suites I prefer (Garmin's own and 
one of Maptech's) now install, launch, and run -- and most of them 
usually do the crucial function, transferring data to and from my GPSs.

(Details in a June 29th post here, titled Mappery : uncertain 
success with Fedora/Wine/Garmin)

There is a snag, though.

Disclaimer : what I know of hardware would go in a gnat's eye, 
comfortably.

I have a T30 Thinkpad, into which a hardware-savvy young friend 
recently put a new hard drive -- one I had bought from a friend, who 
thought it to have 70 GB; df -h tells me it has 228 GB.

The machine is running Fedora 11, on which I have installed 
Garmin's TOPOUS2008 under Wine. This combination on three of my four PCs 
not only launches and runs, but also transfers data to and from my Garmin 
GPSs. It launches and runs on a T42, too -- and used to talk to the GPS, 
but doesn't now.

At first, when I launched the map software on the T30, either by 
mouse or from the CLI, it churned a moment, then the monitor went black, 
and failed to respond discernibly to anything except holding down the 
power button. 

I've been told I may need to update the BIOS, but I get lost 
trying to follow the directions for doing that at 

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/MIGR-45745.html

(the BIOS update page).

 Yesterday evening, I tried launching the map software again
(which is always very slow to launch). I *think* I did it on the
T30, but from the CLI instead of the mouse, by cp from the launcher
to the CLI; the up arrow gets me the command: env WINEPREFIX=/home/
btth/.wine wine C:\Garmin\MapSource.exe

 The screen soon went black. One of the several LEDs near the
power button stayed lit. I thought, wrongly I now believe, that it
simply indicated the presence of wall power. (It looks like a circle
containing either a Z or an N, rotated 45 degrees.)

 I waited a while, then hit the power button and waited
again. Nothing visible happened. I held the power button down, for
what seemed a very long time. Finally the LED turned off.

 I hit the power button again; nothing happened; I waited a
while, and hit it yet again. This time the T30 booted up. I left it
at the F11 login screen.

 This morning, without logging into the T30, I did ssh -X
into it from my #1 PC, the one I'm on now. Then I gave the env
WINEPREFIX=/home/btth/.wine wine C:\Garmin\MapSource.exe command
again -- expecting the T30 to crash, but possibly send me
interesting messages as it did.

 It didn't crash. It opened the same map display as on this
machine (which I had opened by cp with the same command.) It gave
these messages :

[b...@hbsk2 ~]$ ssh -X 192.168.1.109
b...@192.168.1.109's password:
Last login: Sun Jul  5 16:23:53 2009 from 192.168.1.102
[b...@thpd30 ~]$ env WINEPREFIX=/home/btth/.wine wine
C:\Garmin\MapSource.exe
fixme:bitblt:X11DRV_ClientSideDIBCopy potential optimization: pixel
format conversion
err:imagelist:IMAGELIST_InternalExpandBitmaps creating new image
bitmap (x=23904 y=24)!
fixme:bitblt:X11DRV_ClientSideDIBCopy potential optimization: pixel
format conversion

 (Meanwhile, by comparison, PC #1 was showing these messages :

[b...@hbsk2 ~]$ env WINEPREFIX=/home/btth/.wine wine
C:\Garmin\MapSource.exe
fixme:bitblt:X11DRV_ClientSideDIBCopy potential optimization: pixel
format conversion
fixme:bitblt:X11DRV_ClientSideDIBCopy potential optimization: pixel
format conversion)

 I turned on a GPS, which was still connected to the serial
port on the T30, and started trying to transfer data in to the T30.
It didn't see the GPS. I edited preferences, trying com1 through
com8 (!) and the auto setting (before and after the com ports); no
joy, and in fact no response, except what I'd've gotten without any
GPS.

 But the T30 still didn't crash, and the map display is
still open and working usably on one of my PC#1 workspaces -- just
like the one native to PC #1. I have that open also, on the same
workspace. The only difference I find between them is that the
native one says merely Untitled - MapSource across the top, while
the other adds a parenthesis (on Thpd30.localdomain)

 I took this to mean that it's not the map software itself
that's the problem, but its demands on X. Does that make sense?

 After a while, I closed the display from the T30, but not
the ssh -X link -- nor the plain ssh link I also had open to it.
Then I logged into the T30 from its keyboard, and launched the map
program again. 

Today, after a reboot, the T30 now does launch and run the topo 
software, on its own display. That fails to see either of my GPSs, and to 
find them if I tell it to. It does zoom, pan, and do most of its usual 
things. 

If I try to

Re: Bluetooth under KDE - anyone running this?

2009-07-11 Thread Timothy Murphy

Timothy Murphy wrote:

 As far as I can see, it is impossible to run bluez under Fedora/KDE,
 since there is no way of pairing devices. KDEBluetooth4 didn't do
 anything under F-10; under F-11 it crashes.

 Rawhide works fine for me. Have you tried with it?
 http://people.freedesktop.org/~ajax/fedora-test/Fedora-Unity-
 Desktop-20090706-rawhide-Live-i386.iso
 
 Thanks for the response, 
 I'm just burning that ISO and will see how it goes.
 It make me think I could also try the Fedora-11 Gnome Live CD.

Unfortunately my CD writer decreed that the Fedora Unity ISO was too large.
In the end I installed the standard (Gnome) Live CD,
and I had no problem pairing my phone, and generally using Bluetooth.

It's a pity one has to use Gnome to do this.
If KDE can't get kdebluetooth working, I would have thought
just putting the bluetooth key in a file would be a simple solution.

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Re: 64-bit LXDE spin/remix

On 07/12/2009 12:36 AM, Globe Trotter wrote:
 

 
 
 So, is it possible to run F10 and create a F11 LiveCD? If so, how?

It should be possible using febootstrap.

http://et.redhat.com/~rjones/febootstrap/

I haven't tried that.

Rahul

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F11 dual boot on Samsung NC10 - BEWARE - a nasty shock!

2009-07-11 Thread Mike Cloaked

If anyone is installing F11 on a Samsung NC10 netbook I just had a nasty
surprise which I felt any other NC10 owner would want to know about.

I had installed F11 perfectly well on this netbook using a usbkey. I had
only booted to F11 until this evening, when I decided to boot XP as part of
the dual boot check - this is where I had a nasty surprise - instead of
booting to XP it started booting the recovery partition!! I waited until it
offered me the option of accepting the re-install options (For Windows XP),
and then chose to shutdown instead using the option offered.
It was easy to fix after booting back to F11 - see below - but you need to
be aware of this install fault before getting to this position!

During the install anaconda had detected the recover partition and entered
the Windows section of /boot/grub/grub.conf with the wrong partition
definition.

The fix was simple - change the line (hd0,0) to (hd0,1) in grub.conf and all
is well - however you should check the grub.conf file produced immediately
after the install to see what has been entered. I have not yet checked
bugzilla but this is a bad fault in the install system, and should be fixed.

I hope no-one else has been affected by this.
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Re: cups configuration

On Sat, 2009-07-11 at 09:28 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
 François Patte wrote:
  Bonjour,
  
  I want to configure cups on laptops so that people could add any printer
  they want, and choose the default printer they want too.
  
  I don't want to give them the root password.
  
  What is possible, using the web interface, is to allow anybody to remove
  tasks, even if they are not the owner of the task.
  
  I want also that these permissions to add and choose the default
  printer, will be be limited to the laptop only, I mean: if the laptop is
  connected to a network, I don't want that these persmissions could be
  automatically extended to any other cups server on the network.
  
  Is this possible? And how?
  
 It is already possible for each user to select their own default
 printer. In Gnome, it is System -- Preferences -- Hardware --
 Default Printer.
 
 As far as giving permission to add/remove/change printers, you can
 add the user to the system group. This will basically give full
 access. Or you can add them to /etc/cups/cups.conf in the Require
 user section of the desired access.-- 
It looks to me that more changes would be needed. At least I conclude
that from the folllowing section of the cupsd.conf file:
 # All administration operations require an administrator to
authenticate...
  Limit CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer CUPS-Delete-Printer
CUPS-Add-Modify-Class CUPS-Delete-Class CUPS-Set-Default
CUPS-Get-Devices
AuthType Default
Require user @SYSTEM
Order deny,allow
  /Limit
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Re: 64-bit LXDE spin/remix




--- On Sat, 7/11/09, Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote:

 From: Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org
 Subject: Re: 64-bit LXDE spin/remix
 To: Globe Trotter itsme_...@yahoo.com
 Cc: encouragement and advice for using Fedora.Community assistance 
 fedora-list@redhat.com
 Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 4:31 PM
 On 07/12/2009 12:36 AM, Globe Trotter
 wrote:
  
 
  
  
  So, is it possible to run F10 and create a F11 LiveCD?
 If so, how?
 
 It should be possible using febootstrap.
 
 http://et.redhat.com/~rjones/febootstrap/
 

Where does one put in the ks file?




  

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Re: Triple boot windows, fedora, and rawhide

2009-07-11 Thread Robert Nichols


Mike Chambers wrote:


1 - When going to install F11 (again) or rawhide, should either detect
my current windows/linux installs and ask to install grub and include
those stanzas?  (Neither detected the other, maybe still rewrite
problems for storage at this stage for this stuff?)

2 - Even if not detected how do I add the missing stanza and is it
basically same already ahve just with diff partitions and kernel
versions?

3 - Which grub is installed to mbr and is the other installed to the 1st
partition of it's install or what?  What should the mbr config and the
1st partitions look like?

4 - Should the two installs share /boot dirs so they can read the
kernels and auto update grub.conf when needed?  How does that work if
not?


The way I've always handled test installs is to have their installers
put GRUB in their partition boot sectors.  Then in the primary
installation's grub.conf I have stanzas like:

title rawhide on sda7
root (hd0,6)
chainloader +1

title Test OS on sda8
root (hd0,7)
chainloader +1

Booting one of those gets you to a new GRUB with whatever menu the
installer put there.  This way the main grub.conf doesn't have to be
touched when something new gets installed or a kernel gets updated
on one of those partitions.

The only downside I've found is that preupgrade won't work on one
of those chainloaded partitions.  Not really a big deal once you
realize what the problem is.

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Re: 64-bit LXDE spin/remix

On 07/12/2009 02:10 AM, Globe Trotter wrote:


 
 Where does one put in the ks file?

Not sure I understand the question. You can use any path.

Rahul

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