Re: Firefox steals alsa audio

[Danny Yee]

suvayu ali wrote:
> Those apps might come with certain desktop environments, but they can
> also be installed separately. Also most of them are graphical
> frontends to command line counterparts. So you can try the command
> line utilities if you wish. I for example use XFCE and WindowMaker and
> use alsa-utils and pulseaudio-utils packages to get the command line
> utilities.
 
That's reassuring. I'm always afraid the desktops will take over to
the exclusion of simpler systems.

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=225660
I've followed the instructions in that web page.  That is, I removed
pulseaudio, rebooted, reinstalled pulseaudio and associated packages,
and rebooted again.  And I've run gst-mixer and alsamixer and set all
the volume sliders I can find to maximum.  padevchooser, however,
does nothing when run from the command line -- no window appears,
and the application just hangs, doing nothing, until interrupted.

vlc is set to use pulseaudio as output, and pavucontrol shows it
playing.  But nothing is to be heard.  amarok does the same thing --
it appears to be playing, and is reported by pavucontrol to be playing,
but no sound can be heard.  Youtube in Firefox works fine (and doesn't
get reported in pavucontrol) but quitting Firefox doesn't help --
still no sound from vlc or amarok.

So it looks like pulseaudio is sending its audio stream to the wrong
place, but how can I fix that without padevchooser?  I've checked
that avahi-daemon is running, having read
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6990830

Danny.

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Re: Latest updates hosed NFS4?

[Braden McDaniel]

On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 17:40 -0400, Braden McDaniel wrote:
> My NFS4 mounts have gone south since the latest round of updates.  Using
> mount directly yields this:
> 
> # mount -t nfs4 hinge:/home/braden /mnt/foo
> mount.nfs4: Protocol not supported
> 
> Anyone know what's going on?

Sigh:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=512377

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Re: good external hard drives (e.g. WD Elements)?

[mike cloaked]

On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 4:05 AM, Paul Erickson wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> After a couple of tries, I managed to get the disk formatted as an ext3
> partition.
> Unfortunately, now when I try to copy files to it, it get an error message
>
> Error while copying.
>
> The folder "backup" cannot be copied because you do not have permissions to
> create it in the destination.
>
> I tried using chmod to change the permissions on /dev/sdc, but this does not
> solve the
> problem. One good thing, Now when I plug the drive in, it is consistently
> recognized by
> the machine, so that is one step forward.
>
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

I am guessing you were not doing the backups as root? Presumably you
did your partition creation as root.

I trust that when you plug in the drive is not only gets recognised
but also puts an icon on the desktop.  You should also find that it
appears as /media/some-usb-diskname

So become root  (i.e. su - )
What I would suggest is that you make a directory with mkdir
/media/some-usb-diskname/mybackups

Then chmod 777 /media/some-usb-diskname/mybackups
which will make the directory world writeable.

Then try
rsync -av some-directory /media/some-usb-diskname/mybackups/

This should certainly work as root but since the directory is now
writeable by anybody it should also work as a normal user.
You should then see /media/some-usb-diskname/mybackups/some-directory
and the files and directories within it.

If so then you should be good to go.

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Re: Pulseaudio crash on Fedora 11

[Fau]

2009/7/17 Fau 

> After upgrading to Fedora 11 pulseaudio frequently crash, that's the
> messages i got on consolle running pa as pulseaudio -
>
>
> D: protocol-native.c: Underrun on 'libao[mpg321] playback stream', 0 bytes
> in queue.
> D: protocol-native.c: Requesting rewind due to end of underrun.
> D: protocol-native.c: Requesting rewind due to end of underrun.
> D: alsa-sink.c: Wakeup from ALSA!
> E: alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_avail() returned a value that is exceptionally
> large: 4294939008 bytes (24347726 ms).
> E: alsa-util.c: Most likely this is a bug in the ALSA driver '(null)'.
> Please report this issue to the ALSA developers.
> E: alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_dump():
> E: alsa-util.c: Hardware PCM card 0 'SiS SI7012' device 0 subdevice 0
> E: alsa-util.c: Its setup is:
> E: alsa-util.c:   stream   : PLAYBACK
> E: alsa-util.c:   access   : MMAP_INTERLEAVED
> E: alsa-util.c:   format   : S16_LE
> E: alsa-util.c:   subformat: STD
> E: alsa-util.c:   channels : 2
> E: alsa-util.c:   rate : 44100
> E: alsa-util.c:   exact rate   : 44100 (44100/1)
> E: alsa-util.c:   msbits   : 16
> E: alsa-util.c:   buffer_size  : 16384
> E: alsa-util.c:   period_size  : 16384
> E: alsa-util.c:   period_time  : 371519
> E: alsa-util.c:   tstamp_mode  : ENABLE
> E: alsa-util.c:   period_step  : 1
> E: alsa-util.c:   avail_min: 16384
> E: alsa-util.c:   period_event : 0
> E: alsa-util.c:   start_threshold  : -1
> E: alsa-util.c:   stop_threshold   : 1073741824
> E: alsa-util.c:   silence_threshold: 0
> E: alsa-util.c:   silence_size : 0
> E: alsa-util.c:   boundary : 1073741824
> E: alsa-util.c:   appl_ptr : 7789478
> E: alsa-util.c:   hw_ptr   : 7766022
> D: protocol-native.c: Underrun on 'libao[mpg321] playback stream', 0 bytes
> in queue.
> E: alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_delay() returned a value that is exceptionally
> large: 463912 bytes (2629 ms).
> E: alsa-util.c: Most likely this is a bug in the ALSA driver '(null)'.
> Please report this issue to the ALSA developers.
> E: alsa-util.c: snd_pcm_dump():
> E: alsa-util.c: Hardware PCM card 0 'SiS SI7012' device 0 subdevice 0
> E: alsa-util.c: Its setup is:
> E: alsa-util.c:   stream   : PLAYBACK
> E: alsa-util.c:   access   : MMAP_INTERLEAVED
> E: alsa-util.c:   format   : S16_LE
> E: alsa-util.c:   subformat: STD
> E: alsa-util.c:   channels : 2
> E: alsa-util.c:   rate : 44100
> E: alsa-util.c:   exact rate   : 44100 (44100/1)
> E: alsa-util.c:   msbits   : 16
> E: alsa-util.c:   buffer_size  : 16384
> E: alsa-util.c:   period_size  : 16384
> E: alsa-util.c:   period_time  : 371519
> E: alsa-util.c:   tstamp_mode  : ENABLE
> E: alsa-util.c:   period_step  : 1
> E: alsa-util.c:   avail_min: 16384
> E: alsa-util.c:   period_event : 0
> E: alsa-util.c:   start_threshold  : -1
> E: alsa-util.c:   stop_threshold   : 1073741824
> E: alsa-util.c:   silence_threshold: 0
> E: alsa-util.c:   silence_size : 0
> E: alsa-util.c:   boundary : 1073741824
> E: alsa-util.c:   appl_ptr : 7882088
> E: alsa-util.c:   hw_ptr   : 7766110
> D: alsa-sink.c: Wakeup from ALSA!
> D: alsa-sink.c: Wakeup from ALSA!
> D: alsa-sink.c: Wakeup from ALSA!
> D: alsa-sink.c: Wakeup from ALSA!
> D: alsa-sink.c: Wakeup from ALSA!
> D: alsa-sink.c: Wakeup from ALSA!
> D: alsa-sink.c: Wakeup from ALSA!
> D: alsa-sink.c: Wakeup from ALSA!
> D: alsa-sink.c: Wakeup from ALSA!
> D: alsa-sink.c: Wakeup from ALSA!
> Killed
>
>
> Anyone with the same problem?
> Best regards,
>
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>

Resolved compiling vanilla kernel 2.6.30.1
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Re: missing rpmbuild option?

[Michael Schwendt]

On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:20:04 -0400, Tom wrote:

> I often just want to look at the source for some tool, so I
> download the source rpm, install it, then try to do a
> rpmbuild -bp to get all the files unpacked and patched.
> 
> This always fails because I'm missing a gazillion build
> dependencies, but I'm not building :-).
> 
> Is there (or should there be) a --nodeps option to
> rpmbuild? 

Yes, there is.

> (I can't see anything like it in the man
> page, but maybe I'm just blind :-).

It's not in the man page [for unknown reasons].

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Re: missing rpmbuild option?

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 07/18/2009 02:55 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:20:04 -0400, Tom wrote:
> 
>> I often just want to look at the source for some tool, so I
>> download the source rpm, install it, then try to do a
>> rpmbuild -bp to get all the files unpacked and patched.
>>
>> This always fails because I'm missing a gazillion build
>> dependencies, but I'm not building :-).
>>
>> Is there (or should there be) a --nodeps option to
>> rpmbuild? 
> 
> Yes, there is.
> 
>> (I can't see anything like it in the man
>> page, but maybe I'm just blind :-).
> 
> It's not in the man page [for unknown reasons].

Filed a bug report at

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=512508

Rahul

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Re: Ranter or evangelist?

[Michael Schwendt]

On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 02:57:19 -0400 (EDT), gilpel altern org wrote:

> >> If I go to Application, sound and video, the first option,
> >> "Audio Player", opens XMMS.
> >
> > When I've used XMMS, in the past,
> 
> Yup, in the past, you too? We're in the present, you know?

Then don't install it. It doesn't get installed by default.

It's an old Gtk+ application, which has a very few fans left. xmms.org
even calls it "legacy". Several times some developers have started a fork
to replace XMMS with a successor like BMP, XMMS2, Audacious, in some cases
starting with nothing else than a port to Gtk2, in other cases replacing
the implementation gradually. You can find packages for some of them in
the repositories.

> But here, all you receive as an answer is "File a bug report". Hey, wait a
> sec! Doesn't anybody at Fedora use Fedora? How come nobody never noticed
> that Brasero doesn't work or XMMS is a pain? Why should we be writing all
> the time when, apparently, nobody gives a shit?

It may be specific to XMMS. Don't generalise. I don't put my hands into
the fire with regard to the Fedora xmms package maintainer(s), but there's
one thing you should not forget. Every piece of software packaged for
Fedora needs somebody to take care of it in various aspects. The packages
themselves, run-time testing (users can contribute that), finding and
fixing bugs, as well as any upstream development that may be necessary.
Software, which doesn't have any users, who are interested in it and who
are willing to contribute something, may end up in a poor state or in
poorly maintained Fedora packages. In many cases, it is beneficial to
build small teams that give the packages some love - instead of filling
the role of a pure consumer who relies on an arbitrary "packager" to do
everything. So, for example, somebody who wants to use XMMS (and since the
player is an optional download and not mandatory) should consider helping
with some of the package maintenance tasks.

> XMMS doesn't play well with modern hardware and it's
> been this way for years.

Then don't install it. It doesn't get installed by default.
(repeating myself here)

XMMS development has stopped years ago. IIRC, there has been a minor
release in 2007, three years after the previous one, marking the 10th
anniversary of XMMS, but it hasn't moved forward over several years.

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Re: Latest updates hosed NFS4?

[Albert Graham]

On 07/17/2009 10:40 PM, Braden McDaniel wrote:

My NFS4 mounts have gone south since the latest round of updates.  Using
mount directly yields this:

 # mount -t nfs4 hinge:/home/braden /mnt/foo
 mount.nfs4: Protocol not supported

Anyone know what's going on?

   

For now you can apply a quick fix:

edit your "/etc/init.d/nfs" file as follows:

Comment out line 97 and add the following line (which removes the -N 4.1)

echo -n $"Starting NFS daemon: "
# For now, turn off the nfs41 support
#   daemon rpc.nfsd -N 4.1 $RPCNFSDARGS $RPCNFSDCOUNT
daemon rpc.nfsd $RPCNFSDARGS $RPCNFSDCOUNT

Then, restart your NFS server (service nfs restart)

It should then work (mine does)

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Re: Firefox steals alsa audio

[suvayu ali]

2009/7/18 Danny Yee :
>
> So it looks like pulseaudio is sending its audio stream to the wrong
> place, but how can I fix that without padevchooser?  I've checked
> that avahi-daemon is running, having read
>        http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6990830

I tried installing padevchooser, and ran into the same problem, no GUI
appearing. You can try using pactl or pacmd to troubleshoot it from
the command line. I am not sure how you should proceed with those
tools, but the pulseaudio wiki might have pointers on how to use them.

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mount.nfs4: Protocol not supported

[Albert Graham]

I already been posted this in response to someone else, but it may not 
be obvious to users of this problem.


nfs-utils-lib-1.1.4-6.fc11.i586
nfs-utils-1.2.0-3.fc11.i586

Basically the latest nfs update disables NFS4, the server log file shows 
something like:


Jul 18 10:47:10 username kernel: svc: 192.168.10.100, port=897: unknown 
version (4 for prog 13, nfsd)


On the client, the message will be something like:

mount.nfs4: Protocol not supported


rpcinfo -p (on the server) will not show any version 4 protocols.

The short term fix is:

edit your "/etc/init.d/nfs" file as follows:

Comment out line 97 and add the following line (which removes the -N 4.1)

echo -n $"Starting NFS daemon: "
# For now, turn off the nfs41 support
#   daemon rpc.nfsd -N 4.1 $RPCNFSDARGS $RPCNFSDCOUNT
daemon rpc.nfsd $RPCNFSDARGS $RPCNFSDCOUNT

Then, restart your NFS server (service nfs restart)

It should then work (mine does)

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Re: Ranter or evangelist?

[Michael Schwendt]

On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:03:37 -0400 (EDT), gilpel altern org wrote:

> Rhythmbox does pretty much the same as Amarok, it plays CDs and it uses
> GTK. At first sight, it looks to me like a good candidate. If its size is
> larger than XMMS, it should be downloaded after installation.

Rhythmbox is installed by default. At least, here with Fedora 11
and default GNOME desktop.

> Of course, XMMS has a lot of history behind it and nobody feels easy with
> the idea of not making it the default. 

It is not the default. As far as I know, due to being a legacy Gtk+ (1.x)
application it is not put onto any of the official CD/DVD images at all.

> But, let's face it: for all the
> protest, not a single person in this thread said that he uses XMMS,

There are only very few XMMS users left. You will find more users
of "xmms2" and "audacious". Both are optional add-ons, too.

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Re: missing rpmbuild option?

[Tom Horsley]

On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:52:23 +0530
Rahul Sundaram wrote:

> >> Is there (or should there be) a --nodeps option to
> >> rpmbuild?   
> > 
> > Yes, there is.
> >   
> >> (I can't see anything like it in the man
> >> page, but maybe I'm just blind :-).  
> > 
> > It's not in the man page [for unknown reasons].  

No wonder I couldn't see it :-).

> 
> Filed a bug report at
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=512508

Thanks!

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Re: missing rpmbuild option?

[Ed Greshko]

Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:52:23 +0530
> Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>
>   
 Is there (or should there be) a --nodeps option to
 rpmbuild?   
 
>>> Yes, there is.
>>>   
>>>   
 (I can't see anything like it in the man
 page, but maybe I'm just blind :-).  
 
>>> It's not in the man page [for unknown reasons].  
>>>   
>
> No wonder I couldn't see it :-).
>
>   
I know it is late

But

rpmbuild --help   reveals it...

>> Filed a bug report at
>>
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=512508
>> 
>
> Thanks!
>
>   


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Re: Partitioning FC11 ??

[M Yakub Mizan]

Currently Grub Do Not Support Booting From ext4
So The Boot Partition Must Me ext3
*your problem must be related to the size of the boot partition.*

if u r installing custom partitioning. then u selected small space for boot
partition.
if it do not solve ur problem and u do not have sensitive data. accept
default installation or format the hd. there must be a partitioning error.



I guess no other solution for such type of problem.
And U should not expect fedora have such a bug?

if your problem solved add " [solved] " to ur next reply
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mdadm abnormal exit

[Erik P. Olsen]

Sometimes but not always I get at boot time:

udevd-event[902] '/sbin/mdadm' abnormal exit

I haven't observed any abnormal behaviour because of that. The raid1 devices
start correctly and the system seems to be in an otherwise healthy state.

What can it be and should I worry or perhaps file a bugzilla report?

My system is:

Linux epohost.epolan.dk 2.6.27.25-170.2.72.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Sun Jun 21
19:03:24 EDT 2009 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux

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Re: preupgrade fails F10 -> F11

[Janez Košmrlj]

Les wrote:

On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 17:58 +0200, Janez Košmrlj wrote:
  

Janez Košmrlj wrote:

It downloads everything correctly, but after the reboot and start of 
the install process I get the message:

/usr/tmp is not a symlink

I checked this and on the hard drive /usr/tmp is a symlink to /var/tmp.

I tried a couple of times, but I get the same error every time.

Has anyone an idea how to fix this.


  

anyone



I cannot help you too much, but the link matches what I see.

It may be that the website is checking your system to see if it is
windows.  Ubunto has some capabilities to overcome this dumb check, but
Fedora doesn't.  You have to add a package to your browser.  Currently I
use greasemonkey and default user agent.  Between the two of them I get
access to most sites.  What is needed is an ethics rule preventing web
programs from checking which system is installed.  It shouldn't matter,
if the web browsers are standards compliant and the programs are too.
The web should be OS independent.

Regards,
Les H

  

what does the browser have to do with preupgrade?

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Re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 65, Issue 146

[amit rp]

some DVD formats are not working on fedora 10. Pl. advise whether any VLC
player is available for download. In VLC all DVD formats can be played.
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DVD Players [was re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 65, Issue 146]

[Jonathan Dieter]

On Sat, 2009-07-18 at 19:02 +0530, amit rp wrote:
> some DVD formats are not working on fedora 10. Pl. advise whether any
> VLC player is available for download. In VLC all DVD formats can be
> played.

When asking a question, next time please start a new thread (i.e. Click
"New" or "Compose" rather than "Reply").

RPM Fusion has what you're looking for.  For configuration, check out:

http://rpmfusion.org/Configuration/

Jonathan


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Firefox complains while running, occasionally locks system at start

[stan]

Hi,

If I run Firefox 3.5 on F11 x86_64 from a terminal as
/usr/bin/firefox &
the following messages come up on the terminal continuously:

(firefox:20872): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: IA__g_object_weak_unref:
couldn't find weak ref 0x3edb469920(0x7f599462e1e0)

(firefox:20872): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: IA__g_object_weak_unref:
couldn't find weak ref 0x3edb469920(0x7f5993982fa0)

Occasionally, while starting, it locks the system completely.

Bug in glibc? gtk? firefox?

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Re: DVD Players [was re: fedora-list Digest, Vol 65, Issue 146]

[Jonathan Dieter]

On Sat, 2009-07-18 at 17:49 +0300, Jonathan Dieter wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-07-18 at 19:02 +0530, amit rp wrote:
> > some DVD formats are not working on fedora 10. Pl. advise whether any
> > VLC player is available for download. In VLC all DVD formats can be
> > played.
> 
> When asking a question, next time please start a new thread (i.e. Click
> "New" or "Compose" rather than "Reply").
> 
> RPM Fusion has what you're looking for.  For configuration, check out:
> 
> http://rpmfusion.org/Configuration/

As you want to play DVDs, you'll also want libdvdcss from livna:

http://rpm.livna.org/

Jonathan


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Re: Partitioning FC11 ??

[Jim]

On 07/17/2009 10:27 PM, stan wrote:

On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:50:24 -0400
Jim  wrote:

   

On 07/17/2009 09:44 PM, stan wrote:
 

On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:15:18 -0400
Jim   wrote:


   

My partition layout is

sda1  ext3   /boot
sda2  ext4   /home
sda3  ext4   /
sda4  Extended
sda 5   Swap

I want sda1 /boot to be my boot, why is it default selecting
sda3 /  , in "Boot Loader Operating system list" ??


 

It would be helpful to see the contents of
/boot/grub/menu.lst

I suspect that you have a root (hd0,2) in there instead of root
(hd0.0) as the location of the boot partition.


   

I haven't finished the install yet, I'm trying to get it to accept
sda1 as boot.
At the initial install and partitioning.

 

> From the information you've given so far, it should be accepting it.
Are you using custom partitioning?  It should show you a visual of the
drive, and allow you to select the mount point for each partition.  Is
it big enough?

As M Yakub Mizan said, we need more information.  We only know what you
tell us, it's not like we're looking over your shoulder or privy to
your experience.

   
I just finished Cutom Partitioning and it's accepting sda3  / as boot 
partition instead of sda1 /boot.
That's where I'm at, I'm thinking it should be selecting sda1 /boot 
partition.


I'm going on to complete the install and work from there.

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Re: Firefox complains while running, occasionally locks system at start

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stan wrote:

> If I run Firefox 3.5 on F11 x86_64 from a terminal as
> /usr/bin/firefox &
> the following messages come up on the terminal continuously:

what happens if you run firefox without '&' ?

what happens if you run firefox within your desktop?

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Re: Firefox complains while running, occasionally locks system at start

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g wrote:
> stan wrote:
> 
>> If I run Firefox 3.5 on F11 x86_64 from a terminal as
>> /usr/bin/firefox &
>> the following messages come up on the terminal continuously:
> 
> what happens if you run firefox without '&' ?
> 
> what happens if you run firefox within your desktop?

*in addition*, try;

'tools > error console' or  to look at your firefox
error messages.

if you have a lot of them, clear them out, close firefox and open
from terminal again to see if errors will be recorded.

after firefox crashes and you can open firefox in desktop, open
firefox again and check to see what error messages you are getting.


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Re: Is there a gnome or KDE or Xorg version of wall for gui

[Anthony Messina]

On Wednesday 15 July 2009 05:50:58 pm Leslie Satenstein wrote:
> Is there a wall command for Gnome, KDE, or Xorg, so that I can alert a gui
> user about some event?

I'm not sure how KDE does is, but I get wall messages via the "KDE write 
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Re: Firefox complains while running, occasionally locks system at start

[Mail Lists]

On 07/18/2009 11:12 AM, g wrote:
> stan wrote:
> 
>> If I run Firefox 3.5 on F11 x86_64 from a terminal as
>> /usr/bin/firefox &
>> the following messages come up on the terminal continuously:
> 
> what happens if you run firefox without '&' ?

   huh ? foregrounding process or not the controlling tty is the same -
seems pointless to me - what are you driving at ?


> 
> what happens if you run firefox within your desktop?

  Without the terminal .. odds are errors will be logged elsewhere -
like .xsession-errors.

  I dont understand your points at all ..

> 
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Re: Firefox complains while running, occasionally locks system at start

[stan]

On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:12:17 +
g  wrote:

> stan wrote:
> 
> > If I run Firefox 3.5 on F11 x86_64 from a terminal as
> > /usr/bin/firefox &
> > the following messages come up on the terminal continuously:
> 
> what happens if you run firefox without '&' ?

Same thing.

> 
> what happens if you run firefox within your desktop?
> 
There is no output on the terminal obviously.

The occasional freezes at startup happen however I start firefox.  I
downloaded the source and compiled it, and get the same behavior.  The
program is called Shiretoko in that case, but it uses the Firefox
configuration.

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Power Manager still not shutting off the screen

[Steven Stern]

Despite this week's update of gnome-power-manager, my screen is not 
being turned off. It worked with the original install of F11, but 
stopped shortly thereafter.


Should this value be true rather than false?

$ more backlight/%gconf.xml






This looks to be correct. I have the timetout set to 15 min via the gui.

$ more timeout/%gconf.xml





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Re: Network guru please help: baffled by missing file

[Didar Hossain]

On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> No, I've had this problem for several months.
> I've a feeling it may date from the time
> when I started using my Dell PowerEdge T105 as a server,
> in place of an HP server which now lives in Italy.
>
> I guess if I don't find out what is wrong in a couple of days
> I'll try installing Fedora-11 on this machine on a separate partition.
>
> The problem is more an intellectual one than a practical one,
> as I have no problem when I use my local repository as yum baseurl .
>
> My server has internal IP address 192.168.1.2 ,
> but external address 86.43.71.228 .
> But most people must have 2 addresses like this?
>
> It really seems as though fedoraproject tests my system in some way,
> and the system fails the test.
> Maybe it sees that Windows partition ...
>
> I see that I have no problem with the other CentOS repositories, eg
> -
> [...@helen tmp]$ wget http://linux.dell.com/repo/hardware/mirrors.pl
> --16:40:49--  http://linux.dell.com/repo/hardware/mirrors.pl
> Resolving linux.dell.com... 143.166.224.62
> Connecting to linux.dell.com|143.166.224.62|:80... connected.
> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
> Length: unspecified [text/plain]
> Saving to: `mirrors.pl'
> ...
> 16:40:50 (3.96 MB/s) - `mirrors.pl' saved [54]
> -

This is what I get when I execute `wget' command -

di...@didar-laptop:~$ wget -S -O- https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink
--2009-07-18 21:17:00--  https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink
Resolving mirrors.fedoraproject.org... 152.46.7.222, 209.132.176.120,
66.35.62.166, ...
Connecting to mirrors.fedoraproject.org|152.46.7.222|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
  HTTP/1.1 200 OK
  Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:47:01 GMT
  Server: Apache/2.2.3 (Red Hat)
  Content-Length: 53
  cache-control: no-cache
  AppTime: D=18458
  AppServer: app1.fedora.phx.redhat.com
  Vary: Accept-Encoding
  Content-Type: text/plain
  X-Pad: avoid browser bug
  ProxyTime: D=168820
  ProxyServer: proxy4.fedoraproject.org
  Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=500
  Connection: Keep-Alive
Length: 53 [text/plain]
Saving to: `STDOUT'

 0% [   ] 0   --.-K/s
# either path=, or repo= and arch= must be specified
100%[==>] 53  --.-K/s   in 0s

2009-07-18 21:17:01 (1.21 MB/s) - `-' saved [53/53]

Also, when I lookup the IP addresses of mirrors.fedoraproject.org I
get the following -

di...@didar-laptop:~$ host mirrors.fedoraproject.org
mirrors.fedoraproject.org is an alias for wildcard.fedoraproject.org.
wildcard.fedoraproject.org has address 152.46.7.222
wildcard.fedoraproject.org has address 209.132.176.120
wildcard.fedoraproject.org has address 66.35.62.166
wildcard.fedoraproject.org has address 80.239.156.215

I do not see "209.132.176.122" in the above list. What does "host
mirrors.fedoraproject.org" output on your end?

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Re: Firefox complains while running, occasionally locks system at start

[stan]

On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:20:46 +
g  wrote:

> g wrote:
> > stan wrote:
> > 
> >> If I run Firefox 3.5 on F11 x86_64 from a terminal as
> >> /usr/bin/firefox &
> >> the following messages come up on the terminal continuously:
> > 
> > what happens if you run firefox without '&' ?
> > 
> > what happens if you run firefox within your desktop?
> 
> *in addition*, try;
> 
> 'tools > error console' or  to look at your firefox
> error messages.
> 
> if you have a lot of them, clear them out, close firefox and open
> from terminal again to see if errors will be recorded.
> 
> after firefox crashes and you can open firefox in desktop, open
> firefox again and check to see what error messages you are getting.
> 
> 
There is no tools -> error console if started from a terminal.  If
started from the desktop it is present, but the warnings are all
reported as Declaration dropped.  If they correspond to the weak
reference warnings, then they probably are not serious.

The trouble is that when the error happens, there is no recovery except
hard interrupt reboot (NMI).  I've been thinking of compiling the kernel
with the swap kernel enabled, so when this happened the replacement
kernel would swap in and enable me to see what is going on.

Alternatively, I see that FF 3.5.1 just was released, so I'll probably
try it and see if it fixes the problem.

Thanks for your responses.

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Re: Latest updates hosed NFS4?

[Braden McDaniel]

On Sat, 2009-07-18 at 11:28 +0100, Albert Graham wrote:
> On 07/17/2009 10:40 PM, Braden McDaniel wrote:
> > My NFS4 mounts have gone south since the latest round of updates.  Using
> > mount directly yields this:
> >
> >  # mount -t nfs4 hinge:/home/braden /mnt/foo
> >  mount.nfs4: Protocol not supported
> >
> > Anyone know what's going on?
> >
> >
> For now you can apply a quick fix:
> 
> edit your "/etc/init.d/nfs" file as follows:
> 
> Comment out line 97 and add the following line (which removes the -N 4.1)
> 
>  echo -n $"Starting NFS daemon: "
>  # For now, turn off the nfs41 support
> #   daemon rpc.nfsd -N 4.1 $RPCNFSDARGS $RPCNFSDCOUNT
>  daemon rpc.nfsd $RPCNFSDARGS $RPCNFSDCOUNT
> 
> Then, restart your NFS server (service nfs restart)
> 
> It should then work (mine does)

Yes, that gets things working here.  Thank you.

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Re: good external hard drives (e.g. WD Elements)?

[John Austin]

On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 18:04 -0400, Braden McDaniel wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 23:28 +0930, Tim wrote:
> > Does anybody know if the "WD Elements" hard drives in enclosures with
> > USB ports work with Fedora pain free?  I've heard tales of some drive
> > enclosures that go asleep on you, but can't recall if it were this range
> > of models, and there's some of these on sale locally for a reasonable
> > price.
> 
> I think buying an external enclosure and drive separately is a better
> option.
> 
> My experience with the quality of drives sold as "external drives" has
> not been good.  Check the warranty periods on the external drives you're
> looking at.  They're typically just for one or two years; occasionally
> three years.  The WD Elements drive you're looking at appears just to
> have a one year warrany[1].  Meanwhile, look at the warranty periods for
> most internal SATA drives: they're typically at least three years; and
> it's not too hard to find drives with five year warranties.
> 
> Buying the drive separately from the enclosure means that you can get a
> higher quality, more reliable drive.
> 
> [1] http://support.wdc.com/warranty/policy.asp?wdc_lang=en
> 
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> 

I would totally agree that buying separate "box" and "disk" is a
better plan.
I would probably go further and say buy an eSATA enclosure, separate disk
and a USB to eSATA converter

Then comes the problem mentioned earlier - what chip is in the converter?

My Lindy eSATA adapter shows up as 13fd:160e Initio Corporation
The only chip on their web site is INIC-1605
However 13fd seems to be Micro Science Inc not Initio Corporation
which is listed as 1101

In practice my machine will copy a 2.4GB file
from int SATA disk to ext SATA disk at approx 50MB/s eSATA
and 25MB/s with the USB/eSATA adapter

OT
OCZ Throttle memory stick - has USB and eSATA I/F
eSATA I/F
[r...@naxos ~]# hdparm -t /dev/sdb1
/dev/sdb1:
 Timing buffered disk reads:  268 MB in  3.00 seconds =  89.28 MB/sec

USB I/F 152d:0602 JMicron Technology Corp
/dev/sdb1:
 Timing buffered disk reads:  102 MB in  3.05 seconds =  33.48 MB/sec

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Re: Firefox complains while running, occasionally locks system at start

[g]

stan wrote:
> Same thing.

ok. was curious if errors where from start up, or if they were after
firefox/shiretoko was running.

>> what happens if you run firefox within your desktop?
>> 
> There is no output on the terminal obviously.

i would not think so. so, i now understand that your running from a
terminal was for trouble shooting to get error messages.

> The program is called Shiretoko in that case, but it uses the Firefox 
> configuration.

i would guess that problems with 3.5 were carried into shiretoko.


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Re: Firefox complains while running, occasionally locks system at start

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stan wrote:

> There is no tools -> error console if started from a terminal.

interesting. i have it from either way. at least as i remember from running
under f10.

it is there with either startup under sl5.3 and ff 3.0.11.

> Alternatively, I see that FF 3.5.1 just was released, so I'll probably try it
> and see if it fixes the problem.

from what i have read of 3.5.1, in firefox tsl, a lot of problems are supposed
to be fixed. just which, time will prove out.

> Thanks for your responses.

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emacs fonts (my stupid mistake, perhaps)

[Globe Trotter]

Hi, 

I like using the 10x20 font for emacs, and do so using 

emacs -fn10x20

However, when I do this on my F11 installation, I get: "No fonts match '10x20' 
". 

I think I must have done something stupid to get here, but I don't recall doing 
anything strange and out of the ordinary over the past 2 days. In any case, how 
does one get my preferred font back?

Many thanks and best wishes,
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Re: emacs fonts (my stupid mistake, perhaps)

[stan]

On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:33:41 -0700 (PDT)
Globe Trotter  wrote:

> 
> Hi, 
> 
> I like using the 10x20 font for emacs, and do so using 
> 
> emacs -fn10x20
> 
> However, when I do this on my F11 installation, I get: "No fonts
> match '10x20' ". 
> 
> I think I must have done something stupid to get here, but I don't
> recall doing anything strange and out of the ordinary over the past 2
> days. In any case, how does one get my preferred font back?
> 
> Many thanks and best wishes,
> T

I don't know how much space you have on your HD, but if you do
yum list available | grep -i font > font_list
and install the resulting fonts (some for sure unnecessary),
it adds approx 100MB (at least on my system).  You then have all
official fonts installed.  I have not received any font complaints
since doing this.  Overkill?  Maybe.  But surely no worse than having
i18n for myriad languages I don't speak or read installed for every
package.

I had the rpmfusion repositories enabled when I did this as well, so I
picked up any fonts that have encumbrances associated with them.

One possible solution.

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Re: need help testing firefox bug in 3.5

[Tim]

On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 11:16 -0700, Mike Wright wrote:
> On the 3.0 series the text inside a button moves to the right 1px when
> active (on mouse button down).  Holding the mouse button down and
> moving off the button the text returns to its correct position.
> Moving on and off the button one can see the text move back and forth.
> This only occurs when the ,  or  type='submit'> is wrapped inside a  tag.

I would have thought that to be a normal thing; an animation simulating
a button being pressed and then released (which is the behaviour when
moving the mouse away - cancelling things).

It does the same thing inside a division, e.g. Press
Me, here on Firefox 3.0.11, on Fedora 9.  I didn't test
other possible parent elements.

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Re: emacs fonts (my stupid mistake, perhaps)

[Globe Trotter]

--- On Sat, 7/18/09, stan  wrote:

> From: stan 
> Subject: Re: emacs fonts (my stupid mistake, perhaps)
> To: fedora-list@redhat.com
> Date: Saturday, July 18, 2009, 12:52 PM
> On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:33:41 -0700
> (PDT)
> Globe Trotter 
> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Hi, 
> > 
> > I like using the 10x20 font for emacs, and do so using
> 
> > 
> > emacs -fn10x20
> > 
> > However, when I do this on my F11 installation, I get:
> "No fonts
> > match '10x20' ". 
> > 
> > I think I must have done something stupid to get here,
> but I don't
> > recall doing anything strange and out of the ordinary
> over the past 2
> > days. In any case, how does one get my preferred font
> back?
> > 
> > Many thanks and best wishes,
> > T
> 
> I don't know how much space you have on your HD, but if you
> do
> yum list available | grep -i font > font_list
> and install the resulting fonts (some for sure
> unnecessary),
> it adds approx 100MB (at least on my system).  You
> then have all
> official fonts installed.  I have not received any
> font complaints
> since doing this.  Overkill?  Maybe.  But
> surely no worse than having
> i18n for myriad languages I don't speak or read installed
> for every
> package.
> 
> I had the rpmfusion repositories enabled when I did this as
> well, so I
> picked up any fonts that have encumbrances associated with
> them.
> 
> One possible solution.

Hi,

Thanks very much! Even without rpmfusion, it wanted to install 254MB worth of 
rpms. 

Anyway, I found it! Installing xorg-x11-fonts-misc got me my preferred font:-)

Many thanks and best wishes,
T


  

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Re: Ranter or evangelist?

[Tim]

Tim:
>> Though it could be that you haven't installed any capable
>> applications that inform Gnome that they're available as a CDDA handler.

gil...@altern.org
> What's the "capable application"?

One that's capable of playing CDs, as opposed to one that isn't.

> Why isn't the capable application included?

That, I cannot answer, for numerous reasons.  One being we don't know
how you did the install.  Whether you customised it, or went with the
defaults.  For all we know, you could have deliberately not installed
something, and that something might have been what was needed.

>> When I've used XMMS, in the past,

> Yup, in the past, you too? We're in the present, you know?

I haven't installed the latest OS, yet.  And with my current OS, it was
so long ago that I don't recall whether I added XMMS along with extra
stuff, or just added the basic package.

> But it seems RhythmBox is aware of this big problem most modern
> computers have and it just works without roaming the net to fix it.

Tales I've read suggests that RhythmBox doesn't "just work."  For *some*
people it doesn't, as can be said for many other programs.

> Don't you think they take more care than XMMS developers to get this
> to work?

I can't answer for them.  But some programs are geared more towards one
thing (e.g. playing oggs and mp3s) than other things (playing CDs).  It
depends on what the creators wanted to do with their program.

> The page I read dates back to 2005 and the problem is still present...

There are reasons to do things differently.  For some users, such as
ones without megafast PCs, getting the CD drive to do the actual playing
is better than having the computer do it.  Plus, you *may* get hardware
error correction in the drive, and spinning a CD at the normal CD spin
rate is much quieter than the computer spinning the disc at full speed
to decode the data.

> Honestly, unless the devil himself is at the helm of RhythmBox, I'd stop
> fooling around and go for it. I didn't experience a single problem and
> never had to roam the net to get it working.

I've had RhythmBox give me sheer hell, at times.

> How come there's nobody at Red Hat/Fedora responsible for making
> reports about this and having things fixed. Playing Jobs, in other words?
> You know, kinda: "Will you get this fixed or should we use Thunar... and
> XFCE? Will you get XMMS working or will we use RhythmBox? Will you get
> Brasero working or... Cause, in the end, you see, everything will work.
> You don't work, you're not there."

This project works differently than Apple Computers.

I don't believe XMMS is a default, any more.  For my last Fedora
install, I'm sure I had to add it, myself.  Personally, I prefer it to
some alternatives, it's less CPU intensive to run.

> It's a pity to see how we're going nowhere fast, declining all
> responsibilities by telling the newbies to RTFM!

That depends where the manual is.  I think that telling someone to RTFM
is actually a good starting answer, certainly when there's a good one.
Read the damn manual, before you do your nut about something.

> But here, all you receive as an answer is "File a bug report". Hey, wait a
> sec! Doesn't anybody at Fedora use Fedora? How come nobody never noticed
> that Brasero doesn't work or XMMS is a pain? Why should we be writing all
> the time when, apparently, nobody gives a shit?

a. Fedora Project is different than Apple Computers.
b. We, the community run it, more than some head office.
c. No one person will have tried every single application in the distro.
d. Stop being silly.

>> Most common answer:  What doesn't work for you, is working for them, so
>> they cannot fix your particular problem.

> Na. As you explained, XMMS doesn't play well with modern hardware and it's
> been this way for years.

Actually, I find XMMS does.

> In short, for my problems:
> 
> 1) Scrap XMMS, install RhythmBox

Last time I looked, I'm sure XMMS wasn't installed by default, and
RhythmBox was.

> 2) Scrap Totem, install Mplayer with all the plug-ins

Yes, Totem sucks.  Even for the codecs that it does support, from the
get-go, it's a CPU pig.

Mplayer's quite good, but I've seen GUIfied versions of it that was just
plain horrible.  And you'll find plenty of people will stick the knife
into mplayer for reasons why *they* don't like it, compared to something
else.

> 3) Scrap Brasero, install K3B

Personally, I'm against installing any KDE applications when you don't
actually use KDE.  K3B should be an installation choice when you want a
KDE-inclusive system.

I have to say that I'm far from impressed by any of the burning
applications that I've tried out, and that'd be at least half a dozen,
by now.  I tend to use the basic /burn a disc with these files/ feature
that Nautilus has for simple CD/DVD burning, and command line burning
utilities when I need something special.

> 4) Scrap Nautilus, install Thunar (For the URL bar, but when I went to
> /dev/sr0, I was asked which application I wanted

Re: Ranter or evangelist?

[Tim]

On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 10:33 -0700, jackson byers wrote:
> any suggestions for command line playing of radio internet streams?

mplayer http://example.com

or, mplayer -playlist http://example.com

(with example.com being just an example internet address, not an actual
one).

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Problems when using emacs under a X86_64 running FC 10

[Daniel J Celta]

Emacs and emacs-ess was completed using "yum install emacs" and "yum  
install emacs-ess". No problem.


Open first emacs session no problem.

Open a second session of emacs. Ok, but when I try to pull down any of  
the menus of the emacs window (e.g. move to a different workspace or  
else, up on top) the system stops responding and eventually comes back  
when trying to close the emacs session.


Has anyone observed this behavior?

Any suggestions or work arounds?

Thanks

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Re: Ranter or evangelist?

[Tim]

On Sat, 2009-07-18 at 01:03 -0400, gil...@altern.org wrote:
> But suggesting to friends that they use XMMS and type meaningless
> scribbles to make a CD play would make one look like a loonie and
> suggesting to install something else will rightfully bring the
> following question: "Why is it not the default?"

It used to be that there was a simple "CD player" application in the
menu.  It's still an addable item, as far as I know, and far less
cumbersome than dealing with XMMS or RhythmBox.

> The default interface size is way too small for most modern screen
> definition. Double size really looks like it's been blown out.

Some people want a small thing, so they can leave it on the desktop, but
not get in the way of everything that they're doing.  There's a reason,
and that's one of them, that several different programs have copied
WinAmp, in that regard.

> XMMS spatly refuses to play the first track of the 2 CDs I tried
> (Rhythmbox plays them, so it's not the CDs.)

That's a little bit too little diagnosis of the problem.  XMMS works
fine with any disc that any other program plays, for me.  I'd be far
more inclined to say it is your discs or your drive that's causing the
problem that at least one program has problems with.

> let's face it: for all the protest, not a single person in this thread
> said that he uses XMMS,
> 
I do, and didn't say that I don't.  Considering that I gave quite a bit
of info on using it, I thought it was obvious that I do.

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Re: Status of a 2.6.30 kernel ? Other sources for a 2.6.30 kernel.

[Joshua C.]

2009/7/16 Linuxguy123 :
> Its been suggested that the root issue with the Intel/ Pulseaudio sound
> problem has been addressed in the 2.6.30 kernels.
>
> Does anyone know when a 2.6.30 kernel will be released ?  Is there a
> prebuilt 2.6.30 kernel in an unstable, testing or development repository
> somewhere ?  If so, how would I easily install it using yum ?
>
> Thanks
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here you can get the 2.6.30.x
http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/kernel/2.6.30/ down the
page you have some kernel from June 12 (just browse the dirs). You
know these could have unexpected behaviour on your system.

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Re: Firefox complains while running, occasionally locks system at start

[g]

stan wrote:

> Alternatively, I see that FF 3.5.1 just was released, so I'll probably
> try it and see if it fixes the problem.

well, i hate to post this, but it just came in and i thought you should
be made aware.

}> Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:09:42 -0500
}> From: Jay Garcia 
}> Subject: Vulnerability in FireFox 3.5.1 confirmed, exploit PoC, no patch
}> To: support-fire...@lists.mozilla.org
}>
}> Various analysts and sites have recently confirmed a vulnerability is
}> present in FireFox 3.5.1 that has had exploit PoC released. When
}> exploited, the vulnerability can lead to system compromise or induce a
}> DOS. No Patch is available.

this subscriber is running ms, so i do not know if it is just ms, or if
it is in linux version also.

from his wording, it is hard to tell if 'dos' is against site or user.

i imagine you could check mozilla site to find out for sure.

later.

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Re: Firefox complains while running, occasionally locks system at start

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On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:21:01 +
g  wrote:

> 
> i imagine you could check mozilla site to find out for sure.
> 
> later.
> 
Yeah, they have a binary version available for linux or the mercury
repository version, but no tar ball yet.  The vulnerability you
mentioned is not mentioned there that I could see.

FF 3.5 has the following critical security vulnerability fixed in 3.5.1:
Corrupt JIT state after deep return from native function

So upgrading doesn't seem to be taking that great a risk from the
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Re: Firefox complains while running, occasionally locks system at start

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stan wrote:

> Yeah, they have a binary version available for linux or the mercury
> repository version, but no tar ball yet.  The vulnerability you
> mentioned is not mentioned there that I could see.

it may be that it is too new.

> So upgrading doesn't seem to be taking that great a risk from the
> existing. :-)

have you considered dropping back to 3.0.11?

3.0.12 is do very soon and may be better than going with 3.5 series.

mozilla 3.5 is starting to look a little like kde 4. :)

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More than 7 DVB devices - How ?

[Albert Graham]

Hi,

I currently have 9 DVB devices, as the drivers are loaded a device in 
/dev/dvb is created

typically:

/dev/dvb/adapterX/demux0
/dev/dvb/adapterX/dvr0
/dev/dvb/adapterX/frontend0
/dev/dvb/adapterX/net0

However, there seems to be a limit of 8 devices (0-7), does anyone know 
how to extend the default limit ?



While I'm on the point, I have the same problem with loop devices being 
limited to 0-7, in the old days you could add max_loop=64 etc.. in 
modprobe.conf, but that does not work anymore (since FC9 I think).


Albert.

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Can't resolv in NEW FC11 Install

[Jim]

Having problems resolving rpmfusion.org in FC11, NEW INSTALL.

rpmfusion-free-release-11-1.noarch
rpmfusion-nonfree-release-11-1.noarch , rpm's are installed, but yum 
update is having problems of resolving rpmfusion.org


Firefox couldn't resolve rpmfusion.org until I disabled IPV6


I'm sure that it is IPV6 problem, Firefox has IPV6 Disabled and it can 
resolve 
http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/releases/11/Everything/i386/os/gnome-mplayer-0.9.5-3.fc11.i586.rpm


But if I feed it a command from terminal like below, it can't resolve 
the rpmfusion site.


[r...@dorsett Larry]# rpm -ivh 
http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/releases/11/Everything/i386/os/gnome-mplayer-0.9.5-3.fc11.i586.rpm
Retrieving 
http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/releases/11/Everything/i386/os/gnome-mplayer-0.9.5-3.fc11.i586.rpm

curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'download1.rpmfusion.org'
error: skipping 
http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/releases/11/Everything/i386/os/gnome-mplayer-0.9.5-3.fc11.i586.rpm 
- transfer failed



I made a text file in /etc/dhclient-eth0.conf and added the below line

prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1;


And check Services and dnsmasq is running.

This is the same procedure I followed in the last 12 FC11 Installs and 
had no troubles in resolving rpmfusion.org.


/etc/resolv.conf is setup as gateway is nameserver and Firefox has no 
problems of Surfing the web.


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F9 to F11: RPM db destroyed by installer crash due to screen saver: how to repair?

[Pierre Sarrazin]

Hi,

I've just tried to upgrade my Fedora 9 system to Fedora 11 using
the DVD.

During the package upgrade phase, the screen saver activated and a
bit later, I pressed the right Ctrl key to see where the progress
bar was.  At that point, the installer crashed.  The Python stack
trace mentioned gui.py and the keysyms module not existing.

So apparently because of a GUI bug, the upgrade is screwed up.
I rebooted to find that the RPM database is destroyed.  I get
the "Fatal error, run database recovery" message.  So I erase
/var/lib/rpm/__db.00* and do "rpm --rebuilddb", which works.
But then I run "rpm -qa", which returns nothing.  Not good.  Then I
try "rpm -q rpm" and get this:

rpmdb: page 9: illegal page type or format
rpmdb: PANIC: Invalid argument
rpmdb: /var/lib/rpm/Name: pgin failed for page 9
error: db4 error(-30977) from dbcursor->c_get: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, 
run database recovery
error: error(-30977) getting "rpm" records from Name index
package rpm is not installed
rpmdb: PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery
error: db4 error(-30977) from db->close: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run 
database recovery
rpmdb: PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery
error: db4 error(-30977) from db->close: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run 
database recovery
rpmdb: PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery
error: db4 error(-30977) from dbenv->close: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, 
run database recovery

Then "rpm -qa" starts failing too:

rpmdb: PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery
error: db4 error(-30977) from dbenv->open: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run 
database recovery
error: cannot open Packages index using db3 -  (-30977)
error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm

The "Packages" files is now 12288 bytes long. It was 60153856 bytes
long before the upgrade, according to my July 10th backup of /var.

Can this be repaired?

I have no idea which packages were upgraded at the point of the
crash.  (That's what I was going to check out after rebooting.)

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Re: F9 to F11: RPM db destroyed by installer crash due to screen saver: how to repair?

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sat, 2009-07-18 at 16:39 -0400, Pierre Sarrazin wrote:
> I have no idea which packages were upgraded at the point of the
> crash.  (That's what I was going to check out after rebooting.)

You might be able to get this from /var/log/rpmpkgs*
and/or /var/log/yum.log.

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Re: Ranter or evangelist?

[jackson byers]

>Tim wrote:
> jackson byers wrote:
>> any suggestions for command line playing of radio internet streams?

>mplayer http://example.com

>or, mplayer -playlist http://example.com

 [by...@f10 ~]$ mplayer http://www.abacast.com/media/pls/kcsm/kcsm-kcsm-sc32.pls
MPlayer SVN-r28461-4.3.2 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz (Family: 15, Model: 2, Stepping: 7)
mplayer: could not connect to socket
mplayer: No such file or directory
Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control.

Playing http://www.abacast.com/media/pls/kcsm/kcsm-kcsm-sc32.pls.
Resolving www.abacast.com for AF_INET6...
Couldn't resolve name for AF_INET6: www.abacast.com
Resolving www.abacast.com for AF_INET...
Connecting to server www.abacast.com[198.145.250.78]: 80...
Cache size set to 320 KBytes


Playing http://sc1.abacast.com:8242.
Resolving sc1.abacast.com for AF_INET6...
Couldn't resolve name for AF_INET6: sc1.abacast.com
Resolving sc1.abacast.com for AF_INET...
Connecting to server sc1.abacast.com[216.218.147.60]: 8242...
Name   : KCSM Jazz 91 * The Bay Area's Jazz Station * Stream 332 *
Listener Supported * KCSM Jazz 91 * www.kcsm.org *
Genre  : Jazz
Website: http://www.kcsm.org
Public : yes
Bitrate: 32kbit/s
Cache size set to 320 KBytes
Cache fill:  0.00% (0 bytes)
ICY Info: StreamTitle='';StreamUrl='';
Cache fill: 17.50% (57344 bytes)
Audio only file format detected.
==
Opening audio decoder: [mp3lib] MPEG layer-2, layer-3
mpg123: Can't rewind stream by 915 bits!
AUDIO: 16000 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 32.0 kbit/6.25% (ratio: 4000->64000)
Selected audio codec: [mp3] afm: mp3lib (mp3lib MPEG layer-2, layer-3)
==
AO: [pulse] 16000Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)
Video: no video
Starting playback...
mpg123: Can't rewind stream by 20 bits!
A:6236.9 ( 1:43:56.8) of -0.0 (unknown)  0.3% 45%

MPlayer interrupted by signal 2 in module: play_audio

MPlayer interrupted by signal 2 in module: enable_cache
A:6236.9 ( 1:43:56.9) of -0.0 (unknown)  0.3% 45%
Exiting... (Quit)
[by...@f10 ~]$


that exiting was caused by my ctl-c


so, mplayer working to play radio stream
for me on f10:

 [r...@f10 ~]# uname -a
Linux f10.pacbell.net 2.6.27.25-170.2.72.fc10.i686 #1 SMP Sun Jun 21
19:03:24 EDT 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

albeit with text output much of which I can't make any sense of.


using a downloaded kcsm-kcsm-sc64.pls  like this doesnt work:

[by...@f10 Download]$ mplayer kcsm-kcsm-sc64.pls
MPlayer SVN-r28461-4.3.2 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz (Family: 15, Model: 2, Stepping: 7)
mplayer: could not connect to socket
mplayer: No such file or directory
Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control.

Playing kcsm-kcsm-sc64.pls.


Exiting... (End of file)
[by...@f10 Download]$

it just quits, no sound

=
but using a downloaded kcsm-kcsm-sc64.pls  like this does:

[by...@f10 Download]$ mplayer -playlist kcsm-kcsm-sc64.pls
MPlayer SVN-r28461-4.3.2 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz (Family: 15, Model: 2, Stepping: 7)
mplayer: could not connect to socket
mplayer: No such file or directory
Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control.

Playing http://sc1.abacast.com:8240.
Resolving sc1.abacast.com for AF_INET6...
Couldn't resolve name for AF_INET6: sc1.abacast.com
Resolving sc1.abacast.com for AF_INET...
Connecting to server sc1.abacast.com[216.218.147.60]: 8240...
Name   : KCSM Jazz 91 * The Bay Area's Jazz Station * Stream 264 *
Listener Supported * Jazz 91 * www.kcsm.org
Genre  : Jazz
Website: http://www.kcsm.org
Public : yes
Bitrate: 64kbit/s
Cache size set to 320 KBytes
Cache fill:  0.00% (0 bytes)
ICY Info: StreamTitle='';StreamUrl='';
Cache fill: 15.00% (49152 bytes)
Audio only file format detected.
==
Opening audio decoder: [mp3lib] MPEG layer-2, layer-3
mpg123: Can't rewind stream by 999 bits!
AUDIO: 22050 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 64.0 kbit/9.07% (ratio: 8000->88200)
Selected audio codec: [mp3] afm: mp3lib (mp3lib MPEG layer-2, layer-3)
==
AO: [pulse] 22050Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)
Video: no video
Starting playback...
mpg123: Can't rewind stream by 13 bits!
A:  23.8 (23.7) of 0.0 (unknown)  0.4% 45%

MPlayer interrupted by signal 2 in module: play_audio


MPlayer interrupted by signal 2 in module: enable_cache
A:  23.8 (23.8) of 0.0 (unknown)  0.4% 45%
Exiting... (Quit)
[by...@f10 Download]$

=
so the cmdline operation of mplayer does  work for me
and no skips!
[unlike totem which has a gui, but lots of skips]

mplayer with a gui that worked,
with its own volume control would be nice
but for now I am happy

thanks much to Tim, and Antonio
Jack

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Preupgrade 10 -> 11 and now lots of issues

[Wade Hampton]

G'day.  I tried upgrading my son's computer from Fedora 10 to 11
using preupgrade.  It seemed to work (but it had to download the
image on the boot as I didn't have space in /boot).

Upon my first boot, the computer hung with a white dash in the
upper left corner of the screen.  X would not start.

I rebooted into single user mode, set run level to 3 and booted.
If I start X using startx, I lose my keyboard and mouse.  The
task bar shows a lot of applications starting. As I have no keyboard
nor mouse, all I can do is hit the power button.

After pressing the power button, several errors were displayed
including Nautilus having issues with Hal.

I rebooted to run level3 and logged in as root.
At the command line I tried yum update to see if there were
updates I needed, but that failed with an error about file
/var/cache/yum/updates/metalink.xml missing.

  System is a Gateway AMD 9500 quad core
  Keyboard is PS/2.  Mouse is USB.
  Display is Nvidia 8600 GT PCI card.

Any help would be most appreciated as this computer
is now down (except for Vista which I am using
for this post).

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Re: F9 to F11: RPM db destroyed by installer crash due to screen saver: how to repair?

[Andre Robatino]

http://people.redhat.com/berrange/notes/rpmrecovery.html



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Re: Samsung Laser printers and F10/11?

[Mike Cloaked]

Mike Cloaked wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Mail Lists-3 wrote:
>> 
>> On 07/11/2009 10:41 AM, Mail Lists wrote:
>> 
>>   Typo -  f10 and f11 are on 1.0.19 .. you probably still need 1.0.20.
>> You could just download from upstream perhaps ?
>> 
>> 
> 
> Yes indeed.  
> 
> By the way the Samsung driver stuff is at
> http://www.samsung.com/uk/support/download/supportDown.do?group=printsolutions&type=printsolutions&subtype=monomultifunctionproducts&model_nm=SCX-4500W&language=&cate_type=all&dType=D&mType=DR&vType=&prd_ia_cd=06010300&disp_nm=SCX-4500W&model_cd=&menu=download
> 
> and the ppd file scx4500w.ppd is in the directory
> cdroot/Linux/noarch/at_opt/share/ppd/
> in the Unified Linux Driver tarball once it is untarred.
> 
> 

I am going to test the printer and scanner functions via a usb connection on
an F10 machine in the coming days.  Having downloaded
sane-backends-1.0.20-4.fc10 and its associated library from updates-testing,
I will try the scanner in the next few days, and will also try to install
the printer using the ppd file and see if it will work without the Samsung
provided other stuff. I will be pleased if both functions can be made to
work. The xerox_mfp.conf file has been amended to include the 4500w details,
and a 19-libsane-scx4500w.fdi has been made, so hopefully this will allow
the scanner to operate but it now needs testing.

Additionally it would be nice to test this to see if it will work via
ethernet and wireless for printing, though I understand that scanning will
only work via usb.

If it works I will also try to test on an F11 laptop as a test ahead of
moving my main machine on F10 to F11 in the next couple of weeks.


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Re: Ranter or evangelist?

[gilpel]

Tim wrote:

> On Sat, 2009-07-18 at 01:03 -0400, gil...@altern.org wrote:
>> But suggesting to friends that they use XMMS and type meaningless
scribbles to make a CD play would make one look like a loonie and
suggesting to install something else will rightfully bring the
>> following question: "Why is it not the default?"
>
> It used to be that there was a simple "CD player" application in the
menu.  It's still an addable
> item, as far as I know, and far less cumbersome than dealing with XMMS
or RhythmBox.

There is an item called "Audio Player" in the Applications -- Sound &
video menu. That's what I clicked and XMMS opened.

Then, Michael Schwendt told me that XMMS was a legacy application and
certainly not the default for GNOME. I really though he was kidding me.
Neither you or anybody had told me so.

So, I booted the LiveCD and what did I see under "Audio Player"? Right on,
Rythmbox!

I've used XMMS in the past and my experience was so bad that I wouldn't
have reinstalled it for all the money in the world. (All the money... Hum,
maybe :) And I installed Rhythmbox when Antonio suggested this
application. I didn't receive an error message: it wasn't installed.

I did install KDE-Base and maybe other components, and XFCE too. Is it
possible that this is how XMMS appeared *AND* Rhythmbox disappeared?

Honestly, after it took more than 2 hours to install OOo, I thought maybe
I had been hacked. So, now, what's that story about "Audio Player" being
an "addable item" ?

As for the rest of our discussion, if XMMS is not the default Audio
Player, I have nothing to say against making it available to Fedora users.

My question is: "How could it possibly get on my system without my
intervention?"

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Re: G3-device for fedora 11?

[Peter Boy]

Am Freitag, den 17.07.2009, 12:24 +0200 schrieb Joerg Bergmann:
> I want to make my thinkpad T40 G3-enabled. It has a
> CardBus slot, USB is available too. Any suggestion for
> a fedora 11-friendly device? HSDPA/HSUPA should be possible.

I use several (older) option cards with my T43, using a cheep simyo and
a fonic SIM card. Works perfectly here (besides the deficiencies of the
E+ network).

Peter



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Re: Ranter or evangelist?

[gilpel]

Michael Schwendt wrote:

> Rhythmbox is installed by default. At least, here with Fedora 11 and
default GNOME desktop.

I really had to boot the LiveCD to make sure you weren't kidding me. As I
was just telling Tim, I never installed XMMS and uninstalled Rhythmbox.

You do make me look like a fool, but thanks a whole lot just the same:
that's a problem that will have to be examined.

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Re: Fedora 11: can't read debugging symbols anymore

[Mildred Ki'Lya]

On 07/17/2009 12:29 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> I just tried building my Qt app "kewpie" with debug info and running
> it under debugger, and it works fine for me. (Fedora 11 64 bit).
>
> Are you trying to look at locals inside a constructor? g++ is
> notoriously dreadful at generating debug info for constructor
> bodies for some reason.
>
> http://home.att.net/~Tom.Horsley/kewpie/kewpie.html
>   
Thanks

That's really strange though. I can SOMETIMES get the locals, and I
always get the stack. I'm wondering what happens. Perhaps it's qmake
that add strange CFLAGS, perhaps that's because I'm debugging inside a
library (and inside a library opened by dlopen). Or perhaps that's a
problem with QtCreator, but I doubt it since Valgrind can't give me any
line number on its traces.

Or perhaps that's because I miss the time to update to Fedora 11 from
rawhide, and I had quite some problems back then when I downgraded from
rawhide to F11. I may still have repositories that gives me wrong
updates or rawhide packages.

The project is almost over anyway, so the need decreases.


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Re: Ranter or evangelist?

[gilpel]

> Tim:

> Tales I've read suggests that RhythmBox doesn't "just work."  For *some*
people it doesn't, as can be said for many other programs.

It seems you haven't tried the latest version... I'm now listening to
Fleetwood Mac on absolute Classic Rock. Not a problem again.

>> Don't you think they take more care than XMMS developers to get this to
work?
>
> I can't answer for them.  But some programs are geared more towards one
thing (e.g. playing oggs and mp3s) than other things (playing CDs).  It
depends on what the creators wanted to do with their program.

When I have a minute, I'll egt some mp3 and oggs. I bet you they'll play
no problem.
>> How come there's nobody at Red Hat/Fedora responsible for making
reports about this and having things fixed. Playing Jobs, in other words?
>> You know, kinda: "Will you get this fixed or should we use Thunar...
and
>> XFCE? Will you get XMMS working or will we use RhythmBox? Will you get
Brasero working or... Cause, in the end, you see, everything will work.
You don't work, you're not there."

> This project works differently than Apple Computers.

And, after 18 years, we have 1% of market share on the desktop.

(Listening to Janis...)

My estimation is that if Linux doesn't get 5% of the market share within 3
years, it's done.

So, I give up. What do you suggest to get people using Linux, NOW? More of
the RTFM rant?
> a. Fedora Project is different than Apple Computers.

Maybe "this project" should evaluate the marketing methods of Apple and
retain what makes sense: i.e.: listening to the users, amking sure
everything works, etc.

> b. We, the community run it, more than some head office.

A community may say: this guy is responsible for giving us shit when
something doesn't work and making sure that, in the end, everything works.

(Listening t the Who.)

As Beranger says, if Microsoft can hardly put out a version of Windows
that works every 7 or 8 years, maybe Linux should reconsider having new
versions every six month. Maybe there a way somewhere in between Debian's
3 year releases and Fedora's 6 month.

(Beatles)

> c. No one person will have tried every single application in the distro.

Certainly, one person should have tried every single default application.
And that Brasero shit is one.

> d. Stop being silly.

If I stop being silly, nothing will change and, when Google comes in the
picture, we might dwindle from 1 towards 0%.

(U2 playing)

>> 2) Scrap Totem, install Mplayer with all the plug-ins
>
> Yes, Totem sucks.  Even for the codecs that it does support, from the
get-go, it's a CPU pig.

At least something we agree on!

> Mplayer's quite good, but I've seen GUIfied versions of it that was just
plain horrible.

Try SMPlayer. It's a version 0,6, but already quite usable.

>> 3) Scrap Brasero, install K3B
>
> Personally, I'm against installing any KDE applications when you don't
actually use KDE.  K3B should be an installation choice when you want a
KDE-inclusive system.

I suppose adding the KDE libraries would indeed cause a space problem, but
something has to burn CDs/DVDs the easy way.

(Bowie playing)

>> 4) Scrap Nautilus, install Thunar (For the URL bar, but when I went to
/dev/sr0, I was asked which application I wanted to open said file. I of
>> course entered rhythmbox, and it worked! Not much use, of course, since

>> only have to right click the CD icon to open rhythmbox.)
>
> I don't particularly like Nautilus, but for other reasons.  It's only a
basic file browser, it's not a file manager (it's too simplistic for that
task).

> I tried Thunar quite some time ago, didn't like that, either.

You should see Dolphin! It almost make me believe KDE4 will someday become
a valid choice once again.

> For a basic workhorse file manager, I don't mind emelfm2, too much.  It
has basic file filtering, etc.,

What is file filtering? I try to do ~/Desktop/*html and I get no result.
All the fricken' file managers I have installed. This used to be standard
with the KDE file manager years ago. What happened?

>> 5) Scrap Glipper, install Klipper, though Klipper has bugs in GNOME. I
might give Clipman another try.
>
> There are places to discuss what forms default installations.  If you
have good reasons to suggest things should or shouldn't be installed, then
debate them appropriately.

I'm afraid debating this with developers of this and that application
would be very unproductive. Unproductive because, once again, nobody is in
charge. No butt to kick, noboddy to thank for good work. Just some kind of
Brownian motion seemingly going nowhere.

If Shuttleworth hadn't made all his money in the most proprietary field of
software, I'd say Ubuntu is headed somewhere, but I'm not sure.

> Though, as I mentioned earlier, putting KDE things into a Gnome system,
isn't a great idea, and you'll find those deciding basic/default package
lists will say the same thing.  For a Gnome desktop, the defaults will be
Gnome or generic applications, likewise for KDE desktop ins

Re: F9 to F11: RPM db destroyed by installer crash due to screen saver: how to repair?

[M Yakub Mizan]

Recover RPM db as following the instructions above.

*Fedora 9 Directly Can not Be Updated To Fedora 11.
First Update To Fedora 10 Then Update To Fedora 11

*Release Note & Installation Guide*
*http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f11/
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Re: Ranter or evangelist?

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

Tim wrote:
> 
> There are reasons to do things differently.  For some users, such as
> ones without megafast PCs, getting the CD drive to do the actual playing
> is better than having the computer do it.  Plus, you *may* get hardware
> error correction in the drive, and spinning a CD at the normal CD spin
> rate is much quieter than the computer spinning the disc at full speed
> to decode the data.
> 
There is also the change from letting the CD drive feed an analog
signal to the sound card and only having to set the mixer level to
the setup that is more common today where you get the data over the
(S)ATA interface and converting the digital signal to analog in
software, or a hardware D to A converter. (Or leaving it as digital
and feeding that to an external sound system.)

One of the big reasons for the change is that it saves money by not
having to include and install an audio cable from the drive to the
sound card. But it does complicate the p;ayer software a bit. It
also means that if you do not add the cable yourself, the mixer
control labeled CD does not control CD volume. (It controls the
analog input labeled CD.)

Another side affect of this is that it is more complicated to play a
CD and use other sounds at the same time.  Unless your sounds
hardware has more then one channel for digital input, you end up
having to mix the Digital output from the CD with game sounds,
system sounds, etc.

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Mute button on T61 doesn't work in F11

[Matthew Saltzman]

Which component should I file this bug at?

Volume control buttons on my ThinkPad T61 work fine, but the mute button
has no effect.  This is a fresh install of F11, and I'm running GNOME.

TIA.
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Re: Dvd Fprmat Not Working

[M Yakub Mizan]

For litdvdcss check this also.
http://rpm.livna.org/
Please,if u receiving batch mail then start a new topic or change the
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The "Find" Feature in Konsole

[Jim]

FC11/ KDE
In the Konsole Shell where is the "Find" feature ?

Where is the Xterm in Fc11 Repos ?

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Re: Ranter or evangelist?

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

Tim wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-07-18 at 01:03 -0400, gil...@altern.org wrote:
>> But suggesting to friends that they use XMMS and type meaningless
>> scribbles to make a CD play would make one look like a loonie and
>> suggesting to install something else will rightfully bring the
>> following question: "Why is it not the default?"
> 
> It used to be that there was a simple "CD player" application in the
> menu.  It's still an addable item, as far as I know, and far less
> cumbersome than dealing with XMMS or RhythmBox.
> 
Different people have different preferences. I don't care for
RhythmBox, but it is the default because it has nice "bells and
whistles."

>> The default interface size is way too small for most modern screen
>> definition. Double size really looks like it's been blown out.
> 
> Some people want a small thing, so they can leave it on the desktop, but
> not get in the way of everything that they're doing.  There's a reason,
> and that's one of them, that several different programs have copied
> WinAmp, in that regard.
> 
I think XMMS had it first, but mainly because it was designed back
when screen sizes were a lot smaller. This is why double size looks
so clunky...
> 
>> let's face it: for all the protest, not a single person in this thread
>> said that he uses XMMS,
>>
> I do, and didn't say that I don't.  Considering that I gave quite a bit
> of info on using it, I thought it was obvious that I do.
> 
Well, I am coming in late, but I use XMMS to play all kinds of sound
files. If you do not have an analog cable from your drive to the
sound card, (Most new systems don't.) you will have to configure the
plugin to use digital mode.

Mikkel
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Re: The "Find" Feature in Konsole

[Rex Dieter]

Jim wrote:

> FC11/ KDE
> In the Konsole Shell where is the "Find" feature ?

Scrollback -> search output  menu

> Where is the Xterm in Fc11 Repos ?

yum install xterm
should get it for you.

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Re:Dvd Fprmat Not Working

[M Yakub Mizan]

known issue.old issue.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Multimedia

*still do not work . let us know. Please,always write a bit detail.it help
us to detect the matter quickly.*
 VLC is available at fedora repo and VLC site just google VLC player
download install.build rpm available.
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Re: Partitioning FC11 ??

[Albert Graham]

On 07/18/2009 02:15 AM, Jim wrote:

My partition layout is

sda1  ext3   /boot
sda2  ext4   /home
sda3  ext4   /
sda4  Extended
sda 5   Swap

I want sda1 /boot to be my boot, why is it default selecting sda3 /  , 
in "Boot Loader Operating system list" ??




Use fdisk to partition your disk how you want it (i.e. boot into rescue 
mode first), then install FC11, it will not be able to swap things around :)


There should be a be an option in Anaconda that says something like "Let 
fedora organize the disk layout" or "Let user organize the disk layout" 
(God forbid!)


I cannot understand why you even have the option to create custom disk 
layout if it's simply going to try an out smart you when you're done.


Albert.

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Re: Partitioning FC11 ??

[Gene Heskett]

On Saturday 18 July 2009, Albert Graham wrote:
>On 07/18/2009 02:15 AM, Jim wrote:
>> My partition layout is
>>
>> sda1  ext3   /boot
>> sda2  ext4   /home
>> sda3  ext4   /
>> sda4  Extended
>> sda 5   Swap
>>
>> I want sda1 /boot to be my boot, why is it default selecting sda3 /  ,
>> in "Boot Loader Operating system list" ??
>
>Use fdisk to partition your disk how you want it (i.e. boot into rescue
>mode first), then install FC11, it will not be able to swap things around :)
>
>There should be a be an option in Anaconda that says something like "Let
>fedora organize the disk layout" or "Let user organize the disk layout"
>(God forbid!)
>
>I cannot understand why you even have the option to create custom disk
>layout if it's simply going to try an out smart you when you're done.
>
>Albert.

I can't answer that, Albert, but I am damned tired of it. I got sda1 for a 
boot partition on the third try, but there is a 300 meg hole between it and 
sda2 cuz it simply will not allow more than 199 megs for the boot partition.
That problem is about to end with the end of F10.

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Re: Can't resolv in NEW FC11 Install

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> Having problems resolving rpmfusion.org in FC11, NEW INSTALL.

Check out https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=505105.

Perhaps your DNS server or firewall or whatever is broken.  In the bug
above new glibc builds are referred to which try to work around some
more bugs in servers and environments.

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Re: Partitioning FC11 ??

[Albert Graham]

On 07/19/2009 04:47 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:

On Saturday 18 July 2009, Albert Graham wrote:
   

On 07/18/2009 02:15 AM, Jim wrote:
 

My partition layout is

sda1  ext3   /boot
sda2  ext4   /home
sda3  ext4   /
sda4  Extended
sda 5   Swap

I want sda1 /boot to be my boot, why is it default selecting sda3 /  ,
in "Boot Loader Operating system list" ??
   

Use fdisk to partition your disk how you want it (i.e. boot into rescue
mode first), then install FC11, it will not be able to swap things around :)

There should be a be an option in Anaconda that says something like "Let
fedora organize the disk layout" or "Let user organize the disk layout"
(God forbid!)

I cannot understand why you even have the option to create custom disk
layout if it's simply going to try an out smart you when you're done.

Albert.
 


I can't answer that, Albert, but I am damned tired of it. I got sda1 for a
boot partition on the third try, but there is a 300 meg hole between it and
sda2 cuz it simply will not allow more than 199 megs for the boot partition.
That problem is about to end with the end of F10.

   


But if you use fdisk (to extend and fill the hole) Anaconda can't do 
anything about it, it just has to accept your disk layout.


BTW: I do understand "why" they want re-arrange the disk layout, 
basically so you can extend/shrink non root partitions at a later date 
if needed, but it would be nice if it asked permission first.



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Problem with F11 and Broadcom b43 wireless

[Andrew Robinson]

I installed Fedora 11 on my laptop with a Broadcom bcm4306 wireless 
adapter. I installed the b43 driver pretty much the same way that I did 
for Fedora 10 as described at this link: 
http://www.linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43. The wireless makes a 
connection and works for awhile. Then it seems to lose the connection. 
Network Manager throws up the dialog asking for all the basic wireless 
info including password key. However, it never seems to make the 
connection again, no matter how many times I press the OK button and 
watch the Network Manager icon spin for a minute or so. I do not have 
this problem with Fedora 10. The wireless stays connected. Anyone know 
if I'm doing something wrong in Network Manager or if there is a problem 
in Fedora 11?


Thanks!

Andrew Robinson

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disable right-side Windows key

[Frank Cox]

How can I disable or re-map the right-side Windows key on my keyboard? If I hit
it by accident, it pops up a menu and gives it focus, so I have to hit Esc
to close that menu before I can continue with what I'm doing.

The left-side Windows key doesn't appear to do anything, and that suits me
fine; I wish the right-side Windows key would join it.

I have been looking at the keyboard shortcuts and keyboard layout menus but
haven't found anything that looks like what I'm after, though I don't really
know what it is that I'm looking for

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Typo

[Kam Leo]

Al,

Correct the following in the "Request a book" page: "O'reilly is one
of out sponsors, please visit the O'reilly web site at
http://oreilly.com/ to help you determine which book you would like to
review."

 "... one of out .." should be "... one of our .."

This is also a run-on sentence. Too long. Too wordy. You don't need
the URL.  Hyper link to "O'reilly web site" or omit it entirely.  [You
don't even need the hyper link. The Sponsors column already provides a
link.]


My own preference would be to drop the direct link for requesting a
book from the main menu. I would create a link in the "Book Reviews"
page. I also would not single out O'reilly as a source for books.
Although O'reilly is a "sponsor". It is a weak sponsorship. We do not
get any monetary support. We are not their shill. Ask Bruce for other
book sources. Reference the sources together.

-- Kam

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httpd server gone mad

[Hiisi]

Dear Fedora Folks!
Recently I was trying to install httpd local server on my FC11 machine. 
I need it for experiments with php/mySQL. First, I installed all the 
necessary packages:

yum -y install httpd php mysql mysql-server php-mysql
/sbin/chkconfig httpd on
/sbin/chkconfig mysqld on
/sbin/service httpd start
/sbin/service mysqld start
/usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root password 'superbubersecretpassword'
It worked nice at the evening. I tested a few scripts like phpinfo(); 
and gone to sleep happily. Next day I begun to work on my project. I 
hadn't change any configuration of the server when suddenly it stopped 
to work. I recognized that when Firefox begun to display empty page, not 
my page.

I tried 'service httpd start' but got the error:
Starting httpd: (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to 
address [::]:80
(98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 
0.0.0.0:80

no listening sockets available, shutting down
Unable to open logs
  [FAILED]
Then I run 'netstat -lnp | grep '0.0.0.0:80' ' to find out witch process 
is using the address. To my surprise it was httpd itself! And more over, 
there's a lot of httpd processes: ps aux | grep httpd
root  3099  0.0  1.7  28976  9016 ?Ss   09:25   0:00 
/usr/sbin/httpd
apache3115  0.0  0.8  28896  4288 ?S09:26   0:00 
/usr/sbin/httpd
apache3116  0.0  1.1  29108  6112 ?S09:26   0:00 
/usr/sbin/httpd
apache3118  0.0  0.7  28976  4048 ?S09:26   0:00 
/usr/sbin/httpd
apache3119  0.0  0.7  28976  4048 ?S09:26   0:00 
/usr/sbin/httpd
apache3122  0.0  0.7  28976  4048 ?S09:26   0:00 
/usr/sbin/httpd
apache3123  0.0  0.7  28976  4048 ?S09:26   0:00 
/usr/sbin/httpd
apache3124  0.0  0.7  28976  4048 ?S09:26   0:00 
/usr/sbin/httpd
apache3125  0.0  0.7  28976  4048 ?S09:26   0:00 
/usr/sbin/httpd
apache3126  0.0  0.7  28976  4048 ?S09:26   0:00 
/usr/sbin/httpd
root  3434  0.0  0.1   4200   696 pts/0S+   09:54   0:00 grep 
httpd

How can I cure my Apache? Any thoughts?
Respectfully
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