Re: Need a sponsor: mod_proxy_html (apache)
Philip A. Prindeville wrote: Hi. I need a sponsor for this. An RPM has been built on several systems (including FC8 and FC9 and Centos5) and tested on all of those. The ticket has been languishing now unassigned for almost a year. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=452636 Can someone please pick this up? It's just an .src.rpm for Apache's mod_proxy_html. It's pretty trivial. Thanks, -Philip Wow. Who knew sponsors were that hard to come by? Especially when most of the work is already done... -Philip -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Need a sponsor: mod_proxy_html (apache)
Wow. Who knew sponsors were that hard to come by? Especially when most of the work is already done... FWIW, having I the need to use this module on Fedora and RHEL I have already included it in my RPM repository, and so I am using it in production without a problem. Regards -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: rawhide report: 20090721 changes
On 07/21/2009 09:00 PM, Rawhide Report wrote:
Compose started at Tue Jul 21 06:15:03 UTC 2009
New package ghc-editline
Haskell %{pgk_name} library
Obvious typo and it passed through review as well.
Rahul
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Re: Purging the F12 orphans
Matthew Woehlke píše v Út 21. 07. 2009 v 13:27 -0500: Jesse Keating wrote: List of deps left behind by orphan removal: Orphan: libatomic_ops pulseaudio requires libatomic_ops-devel = 1.2-6.fc12 Obviously, this is also a problem, except that again F11 has no such dependency. libatomic_ops will survive either as a standalone package or as a subpackage of the gc package. Process has been started. Dan -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: rawhide report: 20090721 changes
On Wednesday 22 July 2009 01:05:23 am Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 07/21/2009 09:00 PM, Rawhide Report wrote:
Compose started at Tue Jul 21 06:15:03 UTC 2009
New package ghc-editline
Haskell %{pgk_name} library
Obvious typo and it passed through review as well.
Rahul
I noticed this, but I don't think it's a typo. In the rpm it gets evaluated as
Haskell editline library, I imagine.
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Re: rawhide report: 20090721 changes
On 07/21/2009 09:00 PM, Rawhide Report wrote:
Compose started at Tue Jul 21 06:15:03 UTC 2009
New package ghc-editline
Haskell %{pgk_name} library
Obvious typo and it passed through review as well.
Rahul
I noticed this, but I don't think it's a typo. In the rpm it gets evaluated as
Haskell editline library, I imagine.
I think he means pgk should read pkg, or maybe even just use the
standard rpm %{name} variable.
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Re: rawhide report: 20090721 changes
On Wednesday 22 July 2009 01:35:34 am Peter Robinson wrote:
On 07/21/2009 09:00 PM, Rawhide Report wrote:
Compose started at Tue Jul 21 06:15:03 UTC 2009
New package ghc-editline
Haskell %{pgk_name} library
Obvious typo and it passed through review as well.
Rahul
I noticed this, but I don't think it's a typo. In the rpm it gets
evaluated as Haskell editline library, I imagine.
I think he means pgk should read pkg, or maybe even just use the
standard rpm %{name} variable.
Peter
Oh, wow, I didn't notice pgk either. Sorry! %{name} isn't entirely correct
because you get ghc-%{pkg_name} instead of %{pkg_name}.
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Re: Need a sponsor: mod_proxy_html (apache)
Philip A. Prindeville wrote: Philip A. Prindeville wrote: Hi. I need a sponsor for this. An RPM has been built on several systems (including FC8 and FC9 and Centos5) and tested on all of those. The ticket has been languishing now unassigned for almost a year. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=452636 Can someone please pick this up? It's just an .src.rpm for Apache's mod_proxy_html. It's pretty trivial. Thanks, -Philip Wow. Who knew sponsors were that hard to come by? Especially when most of the work is already done... -Philip I'll have a look. .. -- in your fear, seek only peace in your fear, seek only love -d. bowie -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: rpms/parrot/F-9 parrot-1.x.0.patch, NONE, 1.1 .cvsignore, 1.2, 1.3 import.log, 1.1, 1.2 parrot.spec, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.2, 1.3 parrot-1.0.0-rpath-removal.patch, 1.1, NONE parrot-install_files.pa
Am Dienstag, den 21.07.2009, 16:47 + schrieb Gerd Pokorra: Author: gerd Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/parrot/F-9 Ähm, F-9 ist end of lifetime, da kannst Du keine Updates mehr machen. Ich würde dich bitten, die Änderungen im CVS wieder auf den Stand vorher zurückzusetzen, damit es mit dem, was tatsächlich released wurde, auch synchron ist. Log Message: Bitte immer eine Log message machen, also cvs -m blala commit. Oder aber einfacher make clog cvs commit -F clog Damit bekommst Du automatisch den letzen Eintrag im Changelog als Log. %changelog +* Tue Jul 21 2009 Gerd Pokorra g...@zimt.uni-siegen.de 1.4.0-1 +- add the new disable-rpath configure option Update to 1.4.0 hätte man noch dazuschreiben können, aber ist nicht so wichtig. C U Christoph -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: rpms/parrot/F-9 parrot-1.x.0.patch, NONE, 1.1 .cvsignore, 1.2, 1.3 import.log, 1.1, 1.2 parrot.spec, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.2, 1.3 parrot-1.0.0-rpath-removal.patch, 1.1, NONE parrot-install_files.pa
Am Mittwoch, den 22.07.2009, 14:50 +0200 schrieb Christoph Wickert: ... Sorry, this wasn't supposed to go to the list. Christoph -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: No Frozen Rawhide
On Tuesday 21 July 2009 19:04:50 Jesse Keating wrote: I've done some updating to the no frozen rawhide proposal[1]. There is still time to enact this for Fedora 12, which would take effect when we reach Alpha freeze in a couple weeks. I'd like another round of people reviewing it and giving feedback before we take it to FESCo. Thanks! Only thing I'm not terribly wild about is storing the pre-release tree in /pub/fedora/linux/releases/#/Everything/. Its bound to cause some confusion amongst the general population. Any reason not to keep it at /pub/fedora/linux/releases/test/#/Everything/ instead? -- Jarod Wilson ja...@redhat.com -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: No Frozen Rawhide
On Wed, 2009-07-22 at 10:57 -0400, Jarod Wilson wrote: Only thing I'm not terribly wild about is storing the pre-release tree in /pub/fedora/linux/releases/#/Everything/. Its bound to cause some confusion amongst the general population. Any reason not to keep it at /pub/fedora/linux/releases/test/#/Everything/ instead? Churn on the mirror configs and the repo files, as well as on the mirrors when we move to the final destination. Also it makes having test/12/Everything and test/12-Alpha and test/12-Beta a tad bit confusing when all in the same dir. But those are just my gut feelings, I'm not particularly sold on any way and welcome suggestions. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Packaging StumpWM
I've been using StumpWM ( http://www.nongnu.org/stumpwm/ ) perpetually for awhile now, and I would like to see it as a package in Fedora. The trouble is, its in Common Lisp (which I'm not terribly comfortable with) and I've run into some trouble with building it (something to do with prelink I think. RPM complains about the checksum, and when I try to turn prelink off, the RPM I get out has a mangled binary that's 6MB smaller than it should be and won't execute). Is there anyone else who would use this sort of thing and is a bit more familiar with common lisp and how to package it on Fedora? --CJD -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Batteries and Suspend Test day summary
The 'Fit and Finish' test day about batteries and suspend took place yesterday. Thanks to everybody who came by and helped us find, fix and test things ! If you could not make it, our test cases are still available here: http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2009-07-21_Fit_and_Finish:Batteries_and_Suspend That page also contains the results of our yesterdays testing efforts, if you are interested. Amazingly, Richard fixed quite a few of the incoming bugs already, while the test day was still ongoing, and people were able to confirm that the fixes are working. Well done! I'll post the date an topic for our next 'Fit and Finish' test day in the next few days. Matthias -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: No Frozen Rawhide
On Wednesday 22 July 2009 11:58:11 Jesse Keating wrote: On Wed, 2009-07-22 at 10:57 -0400, Jarod Wilson wrote: Only thing I'm not terribly wild about is storing the pre-release tree in /pub/fedora/linux/releases/#/Everything/. Its bound to cause some confusion amongst the general population. Any reason not to keep it at /pub/fedora/linux/releases/test/#/Everything/ instead? Churn on the mirror configs and the repo files, That much sort of sucks, yeah, but meh. We change it at least once anyway though, going from rawhide to release, so is one more change here a huge undertaking? (I ask because have no idea) as well as on the mirrors when we move to the final destination. $ cd .../pub/fedora/linux/releases/test/ $ mv 12 ../ ? Of course, most mirrors are auto-updating via rsync, so perhaps that doesn't translate particularly well... But it would also make it easier for mirror admins who don't want to mirror anything but the actual released releases. Also it makes having test/12/Everything and test/12-Alpha and test/12-Beta a tad bit confusing when all in the same dir. I think this is less confusing than having a release/12 well before the actual release of 12 though. Perhaps test/12/Everything would more accurately be called test/12/Nightly in this scenario? But those are just my gut feelings, I'm not particularly sold on any way and welcome suggestions. Okay, I'll keep 'em coming 'til you say otherwise. :) -- Jarod Wilson ja...@redhat.com -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: No Frozen Rawhide
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:57:13 -0400, Jarod Wilson ja...@redhat.com wrote: On Tuesday 21 July 2009 19:04:50 Jesse Keating wrote: I've done some updating to the no frozen rawhide proposal[1]. There is still time to enact this for Fedora 12, which would take effect when we reach Alpha freeze in a couple weeks. I'd like another round of people reviewing it and giving feedback before we take it to FESCo. Thanks! Only thing I'm not terribly wild about is storing the pre-release tree in /pub/fedora/linux/releases/#/Everything/. Its bound to cause some confusion amongst the general population. Any reason not to keep it at /pub/fedora/linux/releases/test/#/Everything/ instead? Having it in /pub/fedora/linux/releases/#/Everything/ (where # is an integer, not the *.9? stuff) makes it easier for people following development in that scripts for syncing repositories will be consistant between when you are on rawhide and when you are on a release. Assuming that fedora-release also starts using compatible version naming, then you can also consistantly use $releasever in development as well. I think the confusion for normal users will be minimal, because normal users won't be looking at the raw repos in any case. Livna has recently started doing this. I don't know if they plan to continue this long term, but the already have a /12 directory. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Batteries and Suspend Test day summary
2009/7/22 Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com: Amazingly, Richard fixed quite a few of the incoming bugs already, while the test day was still ongoing, and people were able to confirm that the fixes are working. Well done! Sure, and in mutual back-patting, Matthias did a great job coordinating things. I'm sure gnome-power-manager and DeviceKit-power will be in better shape thanks to this test day. Thanks to all of you who opened bugs, and identified issues on IRC. Richard. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Batteries and Suspend Test day summary
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Richard Hugheshughsi...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/22 Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com: Amazingly, Richard fixed quite a few of the incoming bugs already, while the test day was still ongoing, and people were able to confirm that the fixes are working. Well done! Sure, and in mutual back-patting, Matthias did a great job Great to hear this is going well. What hardware did you have available? Any of it with green ears? (Got a shipping address?) cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Batteries and Suspend Test day summary
2009/7/22 Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Richard Hugheshughsi...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/22 Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com: Amazingly, Richard fixed quite a few of the incoming bugs already, while the test day was still ongoing, and people were able to confirm that the fixes are working. Well done! Sure, and in mutual back-patting, Matthias did a great job Great to hear this is going well. What hardware did you have available? Any of it with green ears? (Got a shipping address?) We were testing mostly laptops and netbooks. We didn't test any OLPC devices to my knowledge, although I have a B1 and a C1 sitting on my desk right now :-) Richard. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: No Frozen Rawhide
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:36:38 -0400, Jarod Wilson ja...@redhat.com wrote: $ cd .../pub/fedora/linux/releases/test/ $ mv 12 ../ You actually want overlap for a while so that when rsyncing you can use hardlinks instead of having to redownload files you already have. This is going to be more relevant if koji signing happens and packages don't get different signatures depending on which repo they are in. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Sage in F11
Matthew Saltzman wrote: I assume I'm missing a dependency, but what is it? It's trying to load the old F10 version of OpenSSL. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: No Frozen Rawhide
On Wed, 2009-07-22 at 12:36 -0400, Jarod Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 22 July 2009 11:58:11 Jesse Keating wrote: On Wed, 2009-07-22 at 10:57 -0400, Jarod Wilson wrote: Only thing I'm not terribly wild about is storing the pre-release tree in /pub/fedora/linux/releases/#/Everything/. Its bound to cause some confusion amongst the general population. Any reason not to keep it at /pub/fedora/linux/releases/test/#/Everything/ instead? Churn on the mirror configs and the repo files, That much sort of sucks, yeah, but meh. We change it at least once anyway though, going from rawhide to release, so is one more change here a huge undertaking? (I ask because have no idea) Well every change has potential to break users who have had to do some customization, and it hurts 3rd party repo setups. It'd be nice to install a repo config at Alpha and have the paths used remain useful and valid through the entire release. Would make it easier to attract users at Alpha/Beta and not suddenly drop them off the face or drag them into the next rawhide. as well as on the mirrors when we move to the final destination. $ cd .../pub/fedora/linux/releases/test/ $ mv 12 ../ ? Of course, most mirrors are auto-updating via rsync, so perhaps that doesn't translate particularly well... But it would also make it easier for mirror admins who don't want to mirror anything but the actual released releases. Yeah, sucks for mirrors. If you don't do hardlinks for a while first, they'd have to re-sync the entire pile of packages. And if you're going to do the hardlink dance, might as well use the base location first. Most of our mirrors tend to use the fedora-enchilada path so we're not likely to break too many expectations by having something in releases/ change, any more than by having something in releases/test/ change. Also it makes having test/12/Everything and test/12-Alpha and test/12-Beta a tad bit confusing when all in the same dir. I think this is less confusing than having a release/12 well before the actual release of 12 though. Perhaps test/12/Everything would more accurately be called test/12/Nightly in this scenario? This is why we'll set the expectation of the release on having the Fedora/ path show up. Since that's really what signifies the release, having gpg signed checksummed isos show up, and torrents getting turned on, etc.. There will have to be some expectation changes, but really the kind of people digging at raw mirror paths are going to be the kind of people that can adjust their expectations. But those are just my gut feelings, I'm not particularly sold on any way and welcome suggestions. Okay, I'll keep 'em coming 'til you say otherwise. :) -- Jarod Wilson ja...@redhat.com -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: No Frozen Rawhide
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:21:17PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:36:38 -0400, Jarod Wilson ja...@redhat.com wrote: $ cd .../pub/fedora/linux/releases/test/ $ mv 12 ../ You actually want overlap for a while so that when rsyncing you can use hardlinks instead of having to redownload files you already have. This is going to be more relevant if koji signing happens and packages don't get different signatures depending on which repo they are in. Surely we could work that overlap into the schedule, especially since package data should be frozen pretty hard for the last couple of weeks? -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: No Frozen Rawhide
You actually want overlap for a while so that when rsyncing you can use hardlinks instead of having to redownload files you already have. This is going to be more relevant if koji signing happens and packages don't get different signatures depending on which repo they are in. That would be nice for updates/updates-testing moves too. For that, I've thought it might work to put them all in updates/.all or someplace, with updates/... or updates/testing/... being hardlinks to that. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Batteries and Suspend Test day summary
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:19:41PM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: The 'Fit and Finish' test day about batteries and suspend took place yesterday. Thanks to everybody who came by and helped us find, fix and test things ! Hello, A friend of mine has been having a lot of problems with his laptop about battery life.. When using Linux (Fedora,Ubuntu) the battery life is a lot worse than when using Windows. He's been trying to identify the problem with powertop, disable services etc, but hasn't been able to match the battery life of Windows. Have you guys thought about this? Sounds like something to test during these 'Fit and Finish' days.. -- Pasi -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Building boost-1.39.0-3.fc12.src.rpm on Fedora11
I am wondering if there is an known incompatibility between the rawhide version of boost and Fedora 11. Builds fine for me on F11, F12 on x86_64 -benjamin -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: No Frozen Rawhide
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 11:55:27AM -0700, Roland McGrath wrote: You actually want overlap for a while so that when rsyncing you can use hardlinks instead of having to redownload files you already have. This is going to be more relevant if koji signing happens and packages don't get different signatures depending on which repo they are in. That would be nice for updates/updates-testing moves too. For that, I've thought it might work to put them all in updates/.all or someplace, with updates/... or updates/testing/... being hardlinks to that. Releases prior to F-11 wouldn't benefit from that at all, as the RPMs actually change when going from updates-testing to updates due to being signed with different keys. That might be worth looking into once F-10 dies. josh -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: No Frozen Rawhide
Releases prior to F-11 wouldn't benefit from that at all, as the RPMs actually change when going from updates-testing to updates due to being signed with different keys. I think it still helps a lot with rsync. The old .all/* files are there to be seen as almost the same and get rsync goodness, before rsync sees the updates/testing/* file is gone and updates/* is a link to .all/*. Thanks, Roland -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: No Frozen Rawhide
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 11:14:32AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: Well every change has potential to break users who have had to do some customization, and it hurts 3rd party repo setups. It'd be nice to install a repo config at Alpha and have the paths used remain useful and valid through the entire release. Would make it easier to attract users at Alpha/Beta and not suddenly drop them off the face or drag them into the next rawhide. +1 Let's at least try it that way for one release. It works well for most other distros and from my pov fedora is making stuff difficult for everyone by sticking to the we cannot have anything called F12 anywhere until the release is officially out-mantra. -- sven === jabber/xmpp: s...@lankes.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
rawhide report: 20090722 changes
Compose started at Wed Jul 22 06:15:05 UTC 2009 New package chunkd Data storage daemon for cloud computing New package python-tgext-crud Crud Controller Extension for TG2 New package zikula-module-News Manages news articles on your Zikula site Removed package clutter-cairo Updated Packages: 389-admin-1.1.8-3.fc12 -- * Tue Jul 21 2009 Rich Megginson rmegg...@redhat.com - 1.1.8-2 - change adminutil to 389-adminutil * Tue Jul 21 2009 Rich Megginson rmegg...@redhat.com - 1.1.8-3 - bump rev for final rebuild ardour-2.8.2-2.fc12 --- * Tue Jul 21 2009 Orcan Ogetbil oget [DOT] fedora [AT] gmail [DOT] com 2.8.2-1 - New upstream release 2.8.2. * Tue Jul 21 2009 Orcan Ogetbil oget [DOT] fedora [AT] gmail [DOT] com 2.8.2-2 - Fix libdir once more arora-0.8.0-1.fc12 -- * Tue Jul 21 2009 Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com - 0.8.0-1 - Update to 0.8.0 - Removed custom arora.xml bind-9.6.1-4.fc12 - * Mon Jul 20 2009 Adam Tkac atkac redhat com 32:9.6.1-4 - remove useless bind-9.3.3rc2-rndckey.patch boinc-client-6.6.37-2.r18632svn.fc12 * Tue Jul 21 2009 Milos Jakubicek xja...@fi.muni.cz - 6.6.37-2.r18632svn - Rebase to 6.6a branch (resolves BZ#477882) - Ship shared libraries too, link client dynamically to them - Dropped boinc-rsa.patch (merged upstream) - Dropped boinc-client-6.4.5-event.patch (merged upstream) - Dropped boinc-cuda.patch (merged upstream) - Dropped boinc-gccflags.patch (merged upstream) - Updated boinc-gcc44.patch (merged partially) - Disable newly appeared standard rpaths - Added short user guide exported from wiki as USAGE_FEDORA bonnie++-1.03e-2.fc12 - * Fri Jun 12 2009 Ville Skyttä ville.skytta at iki.fi - 1.03e-2 - Don't strip binaries before -debuginfo is generated (#505570). chkrootkit-0.48-12.fc12 --- * Tue Jul 21 2009 Jon Ciesla l...@jcomserv.net 0.48-12 - Patch to fix crash in chkutmp on x86_64. cld-0.2-0.4.gc5b5f962.fc12 -- * Tue Jul 21 2009 Jeff Garzik jgar...@redhat.com - 0.2-0.3.gc5b5f962 - update to commit c5b5f9622334b273c47e7aad5bd53e280041a045 * Tue Jul 21 2009 Jeff Garzik jgar...@redhat.com - 0.2-0.4.gc5b5f962 - rebuild for koji silliness docbook-style-xsl-1.75.2-2.fc12 --- * Wed Jul 22 2009 Ondrej Vasik ova...@redhat.com 1.75.2-2 - upstream changed tarballs after release * Tue Jul 21 2009 Ondrej Vasik ova...@redhat.com 1.75.2-1 - New upstream release 1.75.2 docbook5-style-xsl-1.75.2-2.fc12 * Wed Jul 22 2009 Ondrej Vasik ova...@redhat.com 1.75.2-2 - upstream changed tarballs after release * Tue Jul 21 2009 Ondrej Vasik ova...@redhat.com 1.75.2-1 - new upstream release 1.75.2 dumpasn1-20090318-2.fc12 * Fri Jul 17 2009 François Kooman fkoo...@tuxed.net - 20090318-2 - cfg file already has unix line endings - create patch instead of using sed to replace BYTE with char * Thu Jul 16 2009 François Kooman fkoo...@tuxed.net - 20090318-1 - Update to 20090318 and config to 20090531 eclipse-checkstyle-4.0.1-13.fc12 * Tue Jul 21 2009 Alexander Kurtakov akurt...@redhat.com 4.0.1-13 - Fix build with Eclipse 3.5. - Remove gcj_support. ecryptfs-utils-76-1.fc12 * Mon Jul 20 2009 Michal Hlavinka mhlav...@redhat.com 76-1 - updated to 76 * Thu May 21 2009 Michal Hlavinka mhlav...@redhat.com 75-1 - removed executable permission from ecryptfs-dot-private (#500817) - require cryptsetup-luks for encrypted swap (#500824) - use blkid instead of vol_id (#500820) - don't rely on cryptdisks service (#500829) - add icon for Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop file * Mon May 04 2009 Michal Hlavinka mhlav...@redhat.com 75-1 - updated to 75 - restrict mount.ecryptfs_private to ecryptfs group members only * Thu Apr 23 2009 Michal Hlavinka mhlav...@redhat.com 74-1 - updated to 74 emelfm2-0.6.2-2.fc12 * Tue Jul 21 2009 Christoph Wickert cwick...@fedoraproject.org - 0.6.2-2 - Fix a typo that prefented the debuginfo from being built (#513031) fprintd-0.1-14.git04fd09cfa.fc12 * Tue Jul 21 2009 Bastien Nocera bnoc...@redhat.com 0.1-13.git04fd09cfa - Make the -devel package noarch (#507698) * Tue Jul 21 2009 Bastien Nocera bnoc...@redhat.com 0.1-14.git04fd09cfa - Merge polkit patch and fix for polkit patch fwbackups-1.43.3-0.4.rc2.fc12 - * Tue Jul 21 2009 Stewart Adam s.adam at diffingo.com 1.43.3-0.4.rc2 - Add patch to fix one-time backups (#512356) gajim-0.12.3-1.fc12 --- * Wed Jul 22 2009 Debarshi Ray ri...@fedoraproject.org - 0.12.3-1 - Version bump to 0.12.3. (Red Hat Bugzilla #510803) * Better keepalive / ping behaviour. * Fixed custom port handling. * Fixed PEP discovery. * Fixed PLAIN authentication (in particular with Google Talk). * Fixed SSL
Re: No Frozen Rawhide
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 15:35:06 -0400, Josh Boyer jwbo...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 11:55:27AM -0700, Roland McGrath wrote: You actually want overlap for a while so that when rsyncing you can use hardlinks instead of having to redownload files you already have. This is going to be more relevant if koji signing happens and packages don't get different signatures depending on which repo they are in. That would be nice for updates/updates-testing moves too. For that, I've thought it might work to put them all in updates/.all or someplace, with updates/... or updates/testing/... being hardlinks to that. Releases prior to F-11 wouldn't benefit from that at all, as the RPMs actually change when going from updates-testing to updates due to being signed with different keys. I think that it will still help with large enough rpms since rsync will try to use parts of the files if they match names. (There options to try to use files with similar names, but I don't think that is very useful for compressed files since they change almost everywhere.) The resources used are different though (bandwidth vs random disk IO) so it could actually make things worse. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: rawhide report: 20090722 changes
On 07/23/2009 02:13 AM, Rawhide Report wrote: pidgin-2.6.0-0.3.20090721.fc12 -- * Tue Jul 21 2009 Warren Togami wtog...@redhat.com 2.6.0-0.1.20090721 - 2.6.0 snapshot with voice and video support via farsight For which protocols? Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: No Frozen Rawhide
On Wednesday 22 July 2009 14:14:32 Jesse Keating wrote: ... Churn on the mirror configs and the repo files, That much sort of sucks, yeah, but meh. We change it at least once anyway though, going from rawhide to release, so is one more change here a huge undertaking? (I ask because have no idea) Well every change has potential to break users who have had to do some customization, and it hurts 3rd party repo setups. It'd be nice to install a repo config at Alpha and have the paths used remain useful and valid through the entire release. Would make it easier to attract users at Alpha/Beta and not suddenly drop them off the face or drag them into the next rawhide. ... Of course, most mirrors are auto-updating via rsync, so perhaps that doesn't translate particularly well... But it would also make it easier for mirror admins who don't want to mirror anything but the actual released releases. Yeah, sucks for mirrors. If you don't do hardlinks for a while first, they'd have to re-sync the entire pile of packages. And if you're going to do the hardlink dance, might as well use the base location first. Most of our mirrors tend to use the fedora-enchilada path so we're not likely to break too many expectations by having something in releases/ change, any more than by having something in releases/test/ change. ... This is why we'll set the expectation of the release on having the Fedora/ path show up. Since that's really what signifies the release, having gpg signed checksummed isos show up, and torrents getting turned on, etc.. There will have to be some expectation changes, but really the kind of people digging at raw mirror paths are going to be the kind of people that can adjust their expectations. All good points... Okay, I think I've been sufficiently convinced that dropping the bits into /pub/fedora/linux/releases/ is just fine after all. Thank you for the enlightenment. ;) -- Jarod Wilson ja...@redhat.com -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
xextproto and libXext changes - possible build breaks
As part of an upstream cleanup of the xextproto and libXext repositories, some header files that didn't belong to the former were moved to the latter. Along with that, some header files got renamed to match the common naming scheme. The rawhide packages for xorg-x11-proto-devel and libXext now have these cleanup bits. These changes affects most graphics drivers and these drivers will be updated accordingly. The changes should not affect clients directly, but the packaging is affected. Clients may be affected by this change if they include one ore more of the following headers: dmps.h lbxbuf.h lbxbufstr.h lbximage.h MITMisc.h multibuf.h security.h shape.h sync.h Xag.h Xcup.h Xdbe.h Xext.h XEVI.h Xge.h xtestext1.h XShm.h XTest.h XLbx.h The BuildRequires should be adjusted to libXext-devel. In the case of XTest.h the new BuildRequires is libXtst-devel. If your package has build errors, please contact me off-list and we can sort it out. Cheers, Peter -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Batteries and Suspend Test day summary
2009/7/22 Pasi Kärkkäinen pa...@iki.fi: He's been trying to identify the problem with powertop, disable services etc, but hasn't been able to match the battery life of Windows. Have you guys thought about this? Depends on the hardware. If it's friendly graphics and intel networking, we should compare quite well. If it's a macbook with nvidia graphics and broadcom networking then all bets are off; as we just don't know how to power down the hardware when idle. Richard. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: No Frozen Rawhide
On 07/22/2009 12:39 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: I think the confusion for normal users will be minimal, because normal users won't be looking at the raw repos in any case. There's a class of users between active developers/QA folk and people who only use GUI package managers who are apt to go to a download site looking for RPM's. That said, I think a succinct README (This is pre-release code, there be goblins here) in the right directory that Apache auto-displays for index listings would be sufficient to warn off those users. Otherwise, _somebody_ is going to say, oh, cool, 12 is out, I missed that. -Bill -- Bill McGonigle, Owner Work: 603.448.4440 BFC Computing, LLC Home: 603.448.1668 http://www.bfccomputing.com/Cell: 603.252.2606 Twitter, etc.: bill_mcgonigle Page: 603.442.1833 Email, IM, VOIP: b...@bfccomputing.com Blog: http://blog.bfccomputing.com/ VCard: http://bfccomputing.com/vcard/bill.vcf -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: No Frozen Rawhide
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 06:24:40PM -0400, Bill McGonigle wrote: On 07/22/2009 12:39 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: I think the confusion for normal users will be minimal, because normal users won't be looking at the raw repos in any case. There's a class of users between active developers/QA folk and people who only use GUI package managers who are apt to go to a download site looking for RPM's. That said, I think a succinct README (This is pre-release code, there be goblins here) in the right directory that Apache auto-displays for index listings would be sufficient to warn off those users. Otherwise, _somebody_ is going to say, oh, cool, 12 is out, I missed that. This would be hard to enforce with mirrors, some of which may not use those automatic features. Any user trying to install from Rawhide, though, receives the famous betanag up front, which basically tells them I'm a pre-release, are you sure you want to install me? -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: No Frozen Rawhide
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul W. Frields wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 06:24:40PM -0400, Bill McGonigle wrote: On 07/22/2009 12:39 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: I think the confusion for normal users will be minimal, because normal users won't be looking at the raw repos in any case. There's a class of users between active developers/QA folk and people who only use GUI package managers who are apt to go to a download site looking for RPM's. That said, I think a succinct README (This is pre-release code, there be goblins here) in the right directory that Apache auto- displays for index listings would be sufficient to warn off those users. Otherwise, _somebody_ is going to say, oh, cool, 12 is out, I missed that. This would be hard to enforce with mirrors, some of which may not use those automatic features. Any user trying to install from Rawhide, though, receives the famous betanag up front, which basically tells them I'm a pre-release, are you sure you want to install me? Should we also have warnings in preupgrade? Or is this not how it works? I haven't used it myself yet. Also, should yum repo configs grow a eatsbabies=1 (or warnonenable to be more descriptive, but I'm partial to the eating babies or a here-there-be-dragons option) for rawhide to have yum confirm when using --enablerepo=rawhide on a non- rawhide install? This may be good anyways since cherry picking from rawhide has other problems (such as xz payload this time, libssl/gcc/hash upgrades before) that may drag in the world as dependencies. - --Ben -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkpnsiUACgkQiPi+MRHG3qRfIgCfVPhT45wJ4hXdbsciLUl7w8tp VX0AoJFxiaOAZLfQqlsSF/HeZ+yyH5YM =N52C -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
[Bug 468598] How to add fonts?
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468598 Tomáš Bžatek tbza...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||du...@redhat.com --- Comment #8 from Tomáš Bžatek tbza...@redhat.com 2009-07-22 09:28:26 EDT --- *** Bug 510589 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Issue 69129] Add support for Graphite font technology
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=69129 User hdu changed the following: What|Old value |New value CC|'fedorafonts,hdu,kpalagin,|'fedorafonts,hdu,kpalagin, |nmailhot,pagalmes,pl,pmike|kstribley,nmailhot,pagalme |,tessarakt' |s,pl,pmike,tessarakt' Assigned to|kstribley |sba --- Additional comments from h...@openoffice.org Wed Jul 22 15:12:43 + 2009 --- sba: please verify in CWS graphite01 Testing hints: - Install the fonts from Keith's excellent test files first. For one of the test docs (for Nko) you'll need the Kankan font from http://openfontlibrary.org/media/files/nko_computers/402 - test the docs (display, print and PDF-export) and compare with them with the provided PDFs - the new features are currently only enabled for Win and Linux builds - watch out for regressions from the trunk (e.g. performance in large docs) - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 506262] X crash - FreeType: couldn't open face /usr/share/fonts/cjkuni/ukai.ttc: 1
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rpms/pango/F-11 pango.spec,1.162,1.163 sources,1.89,1.90
Author: behdad
Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/pango/F-11
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv32177
Modified Files:
pango.spec sources
Log Message:
* Wed Jul 22 2009 Behdad Esfahbod besfa...@redhat.com - 1.24.5-1
- Update to 1.24.5
Index: pango.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/pango/F-11/pango.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.162
retrieving revision 1.163
diff -u -p -r1.162 -r1.163
--- pango.spec 1 Jul 2009 00:13:11 - 1.162
+++ pango.spec 22 Jul 2009 16:30:14 - 1.163
@@ -8,7 +8,7 @@
Summary: System for layout and rendering of internationalized text
Name: pango
-Version: 1.24.4
+Version: 1.24.5
Release: 1%{?dist}
License: LGPLv2+
Group: System Environment/Libraries
@@ -225,6 +225,9 @@ fi
%changelog
+* Wed Jul 22 2009 Behdad Esfahbod besfa...@redhat.com - 1.24.5-1
+- Update to 1.24.5
+
* Tue Jun 30 2009 Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com - 1.24.4-1
- Update to 1.24.4
- http://download.gnome.org/sources/pango/1.24/pango-1.24.4.news
Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/pango/F-11/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.89
retrieving revision 1.90
diff -u -p -r1.89 -r1.90
--- sources 1 Jul 2009 00:13:11 - 1.89
+++ sources 22 Jul 2009 16:30:14 - 1.90
@@ -1 +1 @@
-f2eeaf183930e00ed28fca3a6ed1deb0 pango-1.24.4.tar.bz2
+815416a452e9172fed9862401f37 pango-1.24.5.tar.bz2
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[Bug 509631] pango's preload.1.gz man page is on an unrelated subject and duplicates pango-view.1.gz
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=509631 Behdad Esfahbod besfa...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |CLOSED Resolution||CURRENTRELEASE --- Comment #1 from Behdad Esfahbod besfa...@redhat.com 2009-07-22 12:54:29 EDT --- Fixed in 1.24.5. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 481009] Review request: pothana2000-fonts - Unicode compliant OpenType font for Telugu
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=481009 Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED Fixed In Version||1.3.1-2.fc10 Resolution||ERRATA -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 481009] Review request: pothana2000-fonts - Unicode compliant OpenType font for Telugu
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Re: [PATCH] build a 'full' package on i686
On Mon, 2009-07-20 at 18:48 -0400, Dave Jones wrote: On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:27:40PM +0100, Quentin Armitage wrote: Bill Nottingham notting redhat com wrote: The proposal to have the baseline be i686 + SSE2 was shot down; bare i686 was approved. Does this mean that an i686 kernel without PAE will still be built (my laptop processor does not have PAE so I am rather interested)? yes I note that the latest build on Koji has not built an i686 without PAE version, and the comments against kernel.spec revision 1.1639 suggests there won't be a non-PAE kernel. On the other hand, revision 1.1640 references Source31: config-i686, although I don't see that file in CVS. screwup on my part. it's unnecessary. the non-PAE build is basically just config-x86-generic. Dave Now there is an i686 kernel available in Rawhide, should doing a yum update update my i586 kernel to the latest i686 version? yum update shows that it will update kernel-firmware.noarch to 2.6.31-0.81.rc3.git4.fc12 and kernel-headers.i686 to 0:2.6.31-0.81.rc3.git4.fc12, but it does not update the kernel package. Indeed, if I try yum install kernel-2.6.31-0.81.rc3.git4.fc12.i686.rpm, yum reports: kernel-2.6.31-0.81.rc3.git4.fc12.i686.rpm: does not update installed package. Quentin ___ Fedora-kernel-list mailing list Fedora-kernel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-kernel-list
firefox/flash and pulseaudio
Can someone confirm that firefox/flash is using pulseaudio on their system? That is, if you run pavucontrol while listening to a youtube video (or something similar) in firefox, can you see the audio stream? Looking at this diagram http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/00/Pulseaudio-diagram.svg it certainly doesn't seem right for firefox/flash to be bypassing pulseaudio. Danny. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: 3 finger salute gone in F11
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, suvayu ali wrote: I did as you suggested, but I still can't kill X by Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. Any thoughts? No. I have 31 computers with fedora 11 and X can be restarted with control-alt-backspace using 10-x11-keymap.fdi (gnome/kde/WindowMaker). No xorg.conf Eventually, you can try attached 10-keymap-custom.fdi file instead of 10-x11-keymap.fdi (please, restart your computer before trying ctrl-alt-backspace). You can also create an xorg.conf file with following lines only: Section ServerFlags Option DontZap false EndSection And don't forget to update fedora (yum -y update). Gabriel - -- // Gabriel VLASIU // // OpenGPG-KeyID : 0xE684206E // OpenGPG-Fingerprint: 0C3D 9F8B 725D E243 CB3C 8428 796A DB1F E684 206E // OpenGPG-URL: http://www.vlasiu.net/public.key -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFKZr+SeWrbH+aEIG4RAgNcAJ4+cCTSfYgX2tCS11Y2K0fg3XKU9ACdEJfP PSOfxtJ6GlllReGc3CnbX3o= =6bM/ -END PGP SIGNATURE-?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1? !-- -*- SGML -*- -- deviceinfo version=0.2 device match key=info.capabilities contains=input.keymap append key=info.callouts.add type=strlisthal-setup-keymap/append /match match key=info.capabilities contains=input.keys merge key=input.xkb.rules type=stringbase/merge !-- If we're using Linux, we use evdev by default (falling back to keyboard otherwise). -- merge key=input.xkb.model type=stringkeyboard/merge match key=/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer:system.kernel.name string=Linux merge key=input.xkb.model type=stringevdev/merge /match !-- merge key=input.xkb.layout type=stringus,ro/merge -- !-- merge key=input.xkb.options type=stringterminate:ctrl_alt_bksp,grp:switch,grp:ctrl_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll/merge -- merge key=input.xkb.layout type=stringus/merge merge key=input.xkb.variant type=string / merge key=input.xkb.options type=stringterminate:ctrl_alt_bksp/merge /match /device /deviceinfo -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Startup logo on F11
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:17:40 -0400 From: Tom Horsley tom.hors...@att.net Subject: Re: Startup logo on F11 To: fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 20090721191740.455b1...@zooty Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 01:09:59 +0400 Hiisi wrote: By the way, what 'quiet' stands for? In practice, I think it mostly suppresses the output that describes everything happening during the initrd processing. It gets very very wordy when you remove the quiet option. -- Checked that already. Not so wordy, by the way. And cool looking. Window$ people are afraid of its only look! -- Hiisi. Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: http://counter.li.org/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: aspell rpm is defective.
On Tuesday 21 Jul 2009 21:53:12 Aaron Konstam wrote: On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 17:46 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 21 Jul 2009 16:18:15 Aaron Konstam wrote: No one responded to my question of the absence of dictionaries for aspell and ispell so I looked further. The aspell rpm at least through f9 put the dictionaries in /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/ They are not there or anywhere I can find in F11. Could someone confirm this so I can do a Bugzilla on aspell? Or maybe no one else cares. What is used in its place. Maybe huspell. My F11 netbook uses kde-fedora repos, so may be more up to date than straight F11. However, /usr/lib/aspell does have the dictionaries here. My aspell is 0.60 Anne Well there is always something to learn. I created a kde.repo. My aspell is also aspell-o-60.6-5.fc11.i586 and the directory under /usr/lib is also aspell-0.60 but no dictionaries within. If the aspell on your system is later yum does not think so on my machine. I am boggled by the idea that kde has its own separate repository for f11. What would that be. I installed kde through the fedora repos so I would expect all kde updates would come from fedora repos. kde-fedora is where packages are built for kde and go through a testing phase. It's a bit like running a stable f11 with a rawhide kde, except that you can choose which level you want to work at. I have one system that has both the unstable and unstable-testing enabled. Packages that behave well and cause ew problems go into the main fedora repo shortly after, so you are not missing anything. Can someone explain all this? Especially since aspell is not a particularly kde product. The kde-fedora repo has little to do with your aspell problem. As has been explained, the developer decided against putting a dictionary into the package. Now that may look nonsense to you, but to the rest of the world having an en-US dictionary installed is not helpful. :-) Any further testimony on this matter. Is it Bugzilla time or not? If you feel that the developer made a wrong decision, by all means tell him so in bugzilla, but as I said, think about the rest of us. As long as it is documented that you have to install dictionaries, and it is, I personally think that's OK. I don't actually remember doing it, but obviously I must have seen the documentation and done it, since it is working fine. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Ranter or evangelist?
--- On Tue, 7/21/09, gil...@altern.org gil...@altern.org wrote: From: gil...@altern.org gil...@altern.org Subject: Re: Ranter or evangelist? To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 11:33 PM On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 08:08 +0500, gil...@altern.org wrote: Excuse me for being rude No. Oh, and I'm middle-aged, and run a debt free business. Being doing so for over twenty years. i.e. I live in the real world, and one that's well managed. The one needing to get a clue, here, is you. You ONLY speak for yourself, and opinions are NOT facts. I was just about to go to bed but this message kept haunting me. There's lots of truth in what you say here: why care about anything but the facts and be haunted by questions instead of facts? Sometimes I really wished I was like you... Microsoft has 90% of market share, Linux only 1% and people at Microsoft certainly are very glad. So, why should we be sad? Wouldn't this be giving Microsoft an edge in gladness? And if, tomorrow, Linux only has only .01% of the desktop market, would that be any reason to be sad? Of course not, since you and the codec geeks -- they'll undoubtedly be the last! -- will always hold the flag. So, you'll be glad not to be bothered by know-nothing like me and Microsoft... will they ever be glad! Once again, everybody will be glad. So why worry, be happy! Still, a last question keeps haunting me. No doubt, by now, since it's all well documented facts, you've read From Microsoft Word to Microsoft World. In this document, Newman explains how, using its proprietary formats, Microsoft got rid of pretty much all competition. It brought every company to their knees, thn, bought and scrapped them one after the other. Of course, Microsoft can't play this game with Linux, since Linux uses... or tries to use open formats. Still, sometimes I wonder if, with all the money it has, Microsoft couldn't find a way to keep the cap on Linux. You know, keep it at an acceptable level of nuisance, say, 1% of market share after 18 years. Arrrgh! I'm afraid that's what I'll dream about tonight. What a pain I am, even to myself! -- Micro$oft is losing out to google, Twitter, Facebook and others. In a last ditch effort. Micro$oft is releasing code to linux. Check out this at distrowatch. http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20090720 I like comment 133. It sounds just about right. There are many nice comments there. BTW, Redhat also signed a deal with them, are they really falling off or are they the Borg that is portrayed in comment 133? Regards, Antonio -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Correction to build a custom kernel instructions for x86_64
On 07/21/2009 08:51 PM, stan wrote: Hi, I had found that the instructions for compiling a custom kernel on Fedora at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel worked very well. And so they do. However, as they are written, they do not take into account the changes that are made to the .config file after it is edited, for x86_64. I recommend you get a Fedora account. It is a quick and easy sign up and once you do, you can use it to edit the wiki and add your improvements. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
[Slightly OT] Re: Ranter or evangelist?
On Wed, 2009-07-22 at 11:33 +0500, gil...@altern.org wrote: Microsoft has 90% of market share, Linux only 1% and people at Microsoft certainly are very glad. So, why should we be sad? Wouldn't this be giving Microsoft an edge in gladness? First of all, Linux market share is a very difficult number to predict, but is fairly significant and nearly always underestimated. Not only is there not accurate method of acquiring the numbers data, but Linux runs on vastly more hardware than Microsoft Windows, and one copy of GNU/Linux (downloaded, bought in a store, given by a friend, etc.) can be shared so readily that attempting to count it would be fruitless: it could be one simple desktop installation, or shared among a class of 50-100 students, installed on thousands of a company's servers, or distributed even further. There is a brief article called Debunking the Linux-Windows market-share myth (linked below) written in 2003 by Nicholas Petreley that I suggest you read. It's old, but its reasons for such disparate numbers are still just as valid. Debunking the Linux-Windows market-share myth: http://linux.sys-con.com/node/32648 Secondly, even if this WERE a valid market share estimate, you're missing out on just how big 1% can really be. According to the CIA World Factbook estimate (linked below), there were approximately 1.02 billion users as of 2005. Including the 1.167% estimated growth rate per year (noted on the same webpage) and assuming that the number of users grows similarly, this extrapolates to about 1.24 billion internet users worldwide as of 2008-2009. 1% of this is 12.4 million people. That's more than the populations of most large cities and heck, even of many smaller countries! Factbook page: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/countrytemplate_XX.html Microsoft has such a high market share because their software comes pre-installed with machines through most PC vendors and because it is unfortunately what many have learned to use computers with. It is nothing more than a defacto standard. GNU/Linux, indeed most F/OSS on the other hand, has been spread by advocacy, passed among friends, et al. We don't have more than 12 million users because we're defacto. Not by a long shot. We as a community have EARNED those 12-point-something million users through merit: because we're just that awesome at doing what we do! We *want* people to go and improve upon our code. We *want* people to share it with others. We *want* people to be productive. We *want* people to use their computers, not as dictated by their vendors or software companies, but _however_they_see_fit_. But I digress... -- Peter Gordon (codergeek42) pe...@thecodergeek.com Who am I? :: http://thecodergeek.com/about-me signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F12 networkmanager, anyone else worried by this?
I've just noticed F12 is moving towards NetworkManager for system-wide connections. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NetworkManagerSystemConnections In principle it's a good thing, but with Fedora 11 I'm still having NM problems on two completely different wireless chipsets (rt2500 and iwl3945) which still refuse to do DHCP, which has been an intermittent problem since I first started trying to use NM (say around Fedora 8). It is always blamed on bugs in the drivers, which may be the case, but NM has always seemed less tolerant of these kinds of problems than the old system-config-network approach. Particularly since both cards work properly once static IP has been set up. I'm also worried that when other problems (such as recent difficulties I had with SElinux policies preventing graphical login) occur they will be harder to fix as it seems more likely that NM will be affected by other issues, resulting in trying to fix problems without a network connection available. Is anyone able to reassure me that NM will finally work this time? -- imalone -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 networkmanager, anyone else worried by this?
On 07/22/2009 03:22 PM, Ian Malone wrote: I've just noticed F12 is moving towards NetworkManager for system-wide connections. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NetworkManagerSystemConnections In principle it's a good thing, but with Fedora 11 I'm still having NM problems on two completely different wireless chipsets (rt2500 and iwl3945) which still refuse to do DHCP, which has been an intermittent problem since I first started trying to use NM (say around Fedora 8). It is always blamed on bugs in the drivers, which may be the case, but NM has always seemed less tolerant of these kinds of problems than the old system-config-network approach. Particularly since both cards work properly once static IP has been set up. Yes, it is less tolerant because it uses more features and therefore exposes more glitches. The wireless drivers have increasingly reached a better quality thanks to that. http://blogs.gnome.org/dcbw/ Is anyone able to reassure me that NM will finally work this time? The best way is to run Rawhide for testing, provide feedback and reassure yourself. Rahul -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: 3 finger salute gone in F11
On Wednesday 22 July 2009 12:28 AM, Gabriel VLASIU wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, suvayu ali wrote: I did as you suggested, but I still can't kill X by Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. Any thoughts? No. I have 31 computers with fedora 11 and X can be restarted with control-alt-backspace using 10-x11-keymap.fdi (gnome/kde/WindowMaker). No xorg.conf Eventually, you can try attached 10-keymap-custom.fdi file instead of 10-x11-keymap.fdi (please, restart your computer before trying ctrl-alt-backspace). You can also create an xorg.conf file with following lines only: Section ServerFlags Option DontZap false EndSection And don't forget to update fedora (yum -y update). Thank you Gabriel for your reply. I tried putting the file you had attached in /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ but that didn't work. So I created an xorg.conf using `Xorg -configure' and made the appropriate edits and put it in /etc/X11/. Despite rebooting my system multiple times, it _still_ does not work. I am starting to think there is something gravely wrong with my system that is preventing this from working. :( -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 networkmanager, anyone else worried by this?
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 10:52:26 +0100 Ian Malone wrote: Is anyone able to reassure me that NM will finally work this time? That's not the important question, the important question is: Will the old network stuff still be shipped on the install media or at least available in the repos? As long as I can still chkconfig --level 2345 NetowkrManager off and chkconfig --level 2345 network on I'll be OK no matter how deluded the NM developers remain about their replacement :-). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: 3 finger salute gone in F11
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 22 Jul 2009, Suvayu Ali wrote: I tried putting the file you had attached in /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ but that didn't work. So I created an xorg.conf using `Xorg -configure' and made the appropriate edits and put it in /etc/X11/. Despite rebooting my system multiple times, it _still_ does not work. I am starting to think there is something gravely wrong with my system that is preventing this from working. :( Hmm... haldaemon and messagebus daemons are running? Can you run: service haldaemon status service messagebus status Also, run grep xkb_options /var/log/Xorg.0.log It should say something like (**) Option xkb_options terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp severals times. If not 10-keymap-custom.fdi is not loaded. And: grep xkb_rules /var/log/Xorg.0.log This should say (**) Option xkb_rules evdev If not, you do not use evdev but probably kbd. You don't need to run Xorg -configure. Just create an xorg.conf with the lines from previous mail. Try ctrl-alt-backspace before login (where display manager kdm or gdm ask you for user and password). Try changing gdm with kdm: echo DISPLAYMANAGER=KDE /etc/sysconfig/desktop init 3; sleep 5; init 5 (be sure kdm is installed: yum -y install kdm). Gabriel - -- // Gabriel VLASIU // // OpenGPG-KeyID : 0xE684206E // OpenGPG-Fingerprint: 0C3D 9F8B 725D E243 CB3C 8428 796A DB1F E684 206E // OpenGPG-URL: http://www.vlasiu.net/public.key -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFKZvyaeWrbH+aEIG4RAh5pAJsGW1LsGygw++ur/oqbQRhgm9I4QACfZtYg ZLsU4lrjJMKBnQSFlHkW0c0= =JVaR -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Startup logo on F11
On 07/21/2009 12:19 PM, Robert Nichols wrote: Bradley wrote: Can anyone quickly tell me how to permanently get rid of the startup logo for F11? I always want to see the startup messages while it's booting up. I probably could figure it out by digging into the system but if anyone quickly knows what to change to eliminate it, would be appreciated. In your grub.conf, get rid of the rhgb and quiet kernel parameters. Thanks, this was exactly what I was looking for. BTW, what is the rhgb for? Bradley -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Startup logo on F11
Around 12:52pm on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 (UK time), Bradley scrawled: Thanks, this was exactly what I was looking for. BTW, what is the rhgb for? Red Hat Graphical Bootmanager Steve -- Play Champions - my free football predictions game at: http://www.stevesearle.com/champs/about.html 12:58:27 up 5 days, 16:08, 1 user, load average: 0.15, 0.08, 0.02 pgpJNakQwJIda.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: 3 finger salute gone in F11
On Wednesday 22 July 2009 04:25 AM, Neal Becker wrote: suvayu ali wrote: 2009/7/21 Gabriel VLASIUgabr...@vlasiu.net: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 20 Jul 2009, suvayu ali wrote: Is there a way to do this from the command line? I use XFCE and WindowMaker, I found no way of doing this from XFCE. I could setup a keyboard shortcut to get this back, but what command do I bind the key combination to? cp /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/10-x11-keymap.fdi /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ reboot Hi Gabriel, I did as you suggested, but I still can't kill X by Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. Any thoughts? setxkbmap -option -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp This works but the result does not persist through reboots. I will try Gabriel's suggestions and post back. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F11: kill -9 doesn't work
Hi, I have noticed on several occasions, that running kill -9 pid on a GUI 3D process that is locked at 100% CPU usage (X-Server 100% also) does not work. The 100% lockup I'm sure is due to the currently buggy 3D support (ATI in my case), but I am surprised that I cannot kill either the GUI or X processes. Only a reboot appears to work. Has something changed here ?? Cheers Terry -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 networkmanager, anyone else worried by this?
Around 12:29pm on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 (UK time), Tom Horsley scrawled: As long as I can still chkconfig --level 2345 NetowkrManager off and chkconfig --level 2345 network on I'll be OK no matter how deluded the NM developers remain about their replacement :-). Why would you want to run network at level 2 (Multi-User mode without network)? Incidently while I changed back from NetworkManager to network on earlier Fedora releases, I always gave it a try on each new release, and am now using it quite happily. Of course I manage to appreciate those who put in effort to improve GNU/Linux/Fedora without slagging them off, even when something doesn't work for me. Steve -- Play Champions - my free football predictions game at: http://www.stevesearle.com/champs/about.html 13:00:17 up 5 days, 16:10, 1 user, load average: 0.42, 0.14, 0.04 pgpNRh1KyG6u1.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
What is this .gvfs directory?
I have my system do regular automated backups and just noticed that the backups have been failing do to a .gvfs directory in one of the user's home directories. This folder can not be accessed or deleted until I drop to at least runlevel 2 but then, in the normal runlevel, when the user logs back on, the directory appears again with the same problems. There is absolutely no information about this in the help docs and am wondering how I can either keep the directory from coming back or to make it accessable? Bradley -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What is this .gvfs directory?
Bradley pursley001 at comcast.net writes: I have my system do regular automated backups and just noticed that the backups have been failing do to a .gvfs directory there is a similar thread quite recent. search into the archives, there is a solution (a dirty hack maybe) for the backup issue. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: 3 finger salute gone in F11
On Wednesday 22 July 2009 04:48 AM, Gabriel VLASIU wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009, Suvayu Ali wrote: I tried putting the file you had attached in /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ but that didn't work. So I created an xorg.conf using `Xorg -configure' and made the appropriate edits and put it in /etc/X11/. Despite rebooting my system multiple times, it _still_ does not work. Hmm... haldaemon and messagebus daemons are running? Can you run: service haldaemon status service messagebus status Also, run grep xkb_options /var/log/Xorg.0.log It should say something like (**) Option xkb_options terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp severals times. If not 10-keymap-custom.fdi is not loaded. And: grep xkb_rules /var/log/Xorg.0.log This should say (**) Option xkb_rules evdev If not, you do not use evdev but probably kbd. Everything seems to be working just fine. $ service haldaemon status hald (pid 1460) is running... $ messagebus status dbus-daemon (pid 2000 1420) is running... $ grep xkb_options /var/log/Xorg.0.log (**) Option xkb_options terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp (**) Option xkb_options terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp (**) Option xkb_options terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp (**) Option xkb_options terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp $ grep xkb_rules /var/log/Xorg.0.log (**) Option xkb_rules evdev (**) Option xkb_rules evdev (**) Option xkb_rules evdev (**) Option xkb_rules evdev Try ctrl-alt-backspace before login (where display manager kdm or gdm ask you for user and password). Try changing gdm with kdm: echo DISPLAYMANAGER=KDE /etc/sysconfig/desktop init 3; sleep 5; init 5 (be sure kdm is installed: yum -y install kdm). Ctrl-Alt-Backspace *works* in the GDM login screen. Hence I did not try KDM. This looks like an XFCE problem. Since WindowMaker doesn't really set anything unless I ask it to, I would imagine XFCE does something which persists even after I logout. And hence I can't use Ctrl-Alt-Backspace even in WindowMaker. Does that sound reasonable? -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Firefox itnerface problem(fonts too big)
On 07/22/2009 02:32 AM, Jorge Fábregas wrote: On Tuesday 21 July 2009 01:32:42 pm Tanel Valdna wrote: I have a little problem with firefox interface fonts. They are way too big and I cant figure out how to change them. Check this thread (from a couple of months ago): http://www.nabble.com/KDE-4.2-FIREFOX-Font-size-problem-td22077491.html HTH, Jorge Thank you this solved the problem. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: 3 finger salute gone in F11
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 22 Jul 2009, Suvayu Ali wrote: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace *works* in the GDM login screen. Hence I did not try KDM. That's good. This looks like an XFCE problem. Since WindowMaker doesn't really set anything unless I ask it to, I would imagine XFCE does something which persists even after I logout. And hence I can't use Ctrl-Alt-Backspace even in WindowMaker. Does that sound reasonable? Definitely, Something is wrong. I can use Ctrl-Alt-Backspace in WindowMaker - my primary window manager - but also in gnome/kde. I do not use XFCE so... My idea right now is to use command suggested by Neal Becker and place-it in end of /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 file: echo /usr/bin/setxkbmap -option \terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp\ /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 or better in ~/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/autostart (make sure autostart can be executed (chmod +x ~/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/autostart) ) because Xsetup_0 will be overwritten when, someday, you update xorg-x11-xdm. Gabriel - -- // Gabriel VLASIU // // OpenGPG-KeyID : 0xE684206E // OpenGPG-Fingerprint: 0C3D 9F8B 725D E243 CB3C 8428 796A DB1F E684 206E // OpenGPG-URL: http://www.vlasiu.net/public.key -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFKZw0peWrbH+aEIG4RAmMeAJ44hwnxgRUt5YouuXfZW/S+Q+fYHQCcCD0j yxBORAaludUKBkV/82M+zUk= =CzIS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Functional GIT on F11 ?
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 02:12:01AM +0100, Aaron Gray wrote: 2009/7/21 Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 06:57:58PM +0100, Aaron Gray wrote: 2009/7/21 Todd Zullinger t...@pobox.com Aaron Gray wrote: Ah 'the man' Paul, this is good to hear, do you know of a howto for Fedora + GIT + SSH Pushes as I could not get it to work, even with SELinux in permissive mode. There shouldn't be much, if anything, Fedora specific about this, so the git User Manual is probably a good place to start: http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/user-manual.html# sharing-development (There are a lot of git tutorials on the web, many of which are filled with incorrect, outdated, or otherwise useless information. :) If not could you give me any hints or pointers as to how to do this. Assuming you have ssh access to a remote host already, it can be as simple as: $ gitdir=/path/to/some.git $ ssh remotehost mkdir -p $gitdir; git --git-dir $gitdir init --bare $ cd /path/to/local/git-repo $ git push ssh://remotehost/path/to/some.git master Without knowing just what part of this is giving you trouble, it's hard to be more helpful. Let us know where you are getting stuck and I'm sure we can help get you past the problem(s). Thanks, I will have a go tomorrow as I have not touched GIT for a few months now and need to jem up again. The let you know what problems I was having if I cannot get it to work. IIRC pull over SSH worked but push did not, either that or I could not get SSH to work at all with GIT, sorry I cannot remember. I'm a huge fan of the git community book: http://book.git-scm.com/ Looks good, I knew upto about page 43, but then it did SSH but no mention of the mechanics. Nice stuff on internals later on in the book. You still haven't told us exactly what you are trying to do. Are you trying to just push to a remote repository set up elsewhere? Set up a repository on a system you own to which others can push via SSH? Something else? -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: kill -9 doesn't work
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 01:02:09PM +0100, Terry Barnaby wrote: Hi, I have noticed on several occasions, that running kill -9 pid on a GUI 3D process that is locked at 100% CPU usage (X-Server 100% also) does not work. The 100% lockup I'm sure is due to the currently buggy 3D support (ATI in my case), but I am surprised that I cannot kill either the GUI or X processes. Only a reboot appears to work. Has something changed here ?? If you provide more details, such as the actual process you're running, people might be able to try to duplicate the problem. I've never seen an occasion where kill -9 didn't work, but that doesn't mean it's not possible with some horribly written code. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What is this .gvfs directory?
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 01:22:12PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:12:55 -0500 Bradley pursley...@comcast.net wrote: I have my system do regular automated backups and just noticed that the backups have been failing do to a .gvfs directory in one of the user's home directories. This folder can not be accessed or deleted until I drop to at least runlevel 2 but then, in the normal runlevel, when the user logs back on, the directory appears again with the same problems. There is absolutely no information about this in the help docs and am wondering how I can either keep the directory from coming back or to make it accessable? Its gnome vfs magic. There are few ways to get rid of it other than running a better desktop. It breaks rsync as well horribly because its a misimplemented mess that doesn't provide proper behaviour. The theory is sound but the implementation (which is not entirely Gnome's fault here) misbehaves horribly. If you are using rsync then simply excluding .gvfs should do the trick nicely. Does rsync's '-x' option work in this case? I don't seem to have a mount handy to try. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: 3 finger salute gone in F11
On Wednesday 22 July 2009 05:59 AM, Gabriel VLASIU wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009, Suvayu Ali wrote: My idea right now is to use command suggested by Neal Becker and place-it in end of /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 file: echo /usr/bin/setxkbmap -option \terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp\ /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 This didn't influence the behaviour for XFCE. or better in ~/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/autostart (make sure autostart can be executed (chmod +x ~/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/autostart) ) because Xsetup_0 will be overwritten when, someday, you update xorg-x11-xdm. I had almost forgotten about autostart. :p Now Ctrl-Alt-Backspace works on WindowMaker. Sweeet! Have to figure out what is wrong with XFCE though. From the looks of it, will need quite a bit of digging. But that is for another day I guess. Thanks a lot Gabriel and Neal for the help. Much appreciated :) -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What is this .gvfs directory?
On 07/22/2009 08:17 AM, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 01:22:12PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:12:55 -0500 Bradleypursley...@comcast.net wrote: I have my system do regular automated backups and just noticed that the backups have been failing do to a .gvfs directory in one of the user's home directories. This folder can not be accessed or deleted until I drop to at least runlevel 2 but then, in the normal runlevel, when the user logs back on, the directory appears again with the same problems. There is absolutely no information about this in the help docs and am wondering how I can either keep the directory from coming back or to make it accessable? Its gnome vfs magic. There are few ways to get rid of it other than running a better desktop. It breaks rsync as well horribly because its a misimplemented mess that doesn't provide proper behaviour. The theory is sound but the implementation (which is not entirely Gnome's fault here) misbehaves horribly. If you are using rsync then simply excluding .gvfs should do the trick nicely. Does rsync's '-x' option work in this case? I don't seem to have a mount handy to try. I'm not using rsync and the directory causes problems other than backups but that is the major issue. I need to do something about the directory, not the backups. Any other ideas? Bradley -- Bradley Pursley Phone: 651-688-3526 FAX: 651-688-3526 Email: pursley...@comcast.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: Linux on a Dell Studio Hybird, Problems ??
Well here it is guys, A fix from deep in the Google archives , nomodeset I have never heard of that one. noacpi, xdriver=vesa, etc. etc. didn't help. Is this a new one that just came out ? Finally got Fedora 11 installed and it is now updating. I just read a new post on Mail-List , Vista won't boot from grub. I guess that's another problem I will have to fix. I had no problem having GRUB boot vista in F9. Haven't tried since then, but basically I partitioned my drive with space for vista (so I didn't have to resize which takes forever) then installed Vista. After vista was up and running, I installed F9 and it put a grub entry in for windows that worked. There may have been a few issues but as I recall it worked well. You could also probably use the Vista boot loader and edit it to load grub if you just stick it on a partition instead of the MBR (/dev/sda1 or whichever is your boot partition instead of /dev/sda). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What is this .gvfs directory?
On 07/22/2009 07:17 AM, davide wrote: Bradleypursley001at comcast.net writes: I have my system do regular automated backups and just noticed that the backups have been failing do to a .gvfs directory there is a similar thread quite recent. search into the archives, there is a solution (a dirty hack maybe) for the backup issue. Okay, read the thread but apparently there is no solution to this problem. Has anyone tried permanently breaking or disabling fuse so that it doesn't create the directory in the first place? Bradley -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
lvm2: cluster request failed: Unknown error 65538
Hello,
fedora11 x86_64 with lvm2, device-mapper and related packages updated at :
lvm2-2.02.48-1.fc11.x86_64
lvm2-cluster-2.02.48-1.fc11.x86_64
device-mapper-1.02.33-1.fc11.x86_64
device-mapper-libs-1.02.33-1.fc11.x86_64
I have 2 VGs: vg_virtfed that is a system vg (with root lv ans swap
lv) and vg_qemu01 that is a clustered vg.
At the moment only one node active
[r...@virtfed ~]# service clvmd status
clvmd (pid 2581) is running...
active volumes: centos53 centos53_cldisk1 centos53_cldisk2
centos53_disk2 centos53_node02 centos53_node02_disk2 centos53_qdisk
test_vm_drbd w2k3_01 lv_root lv_swap
- it is strange that between the active volumes I have also the ones
owned by vg_virtfed, that is not a clustered vg
vgs command gives
[r...@virtfed ~]# cman_tool status
Version: 6.2.0
Config Version: 3
Cluster Name: kvm
Cluster Id: 773
Cluster Member: Yes
Cluster Generation: 196
Membership state: Cluster-Member
Nodes: 1
Expected votes: 1
Total votes: 1
Node votes: 1
Quorum: 1
Active subsystems: 10
Flags: 2node HaveState
Ports Bound: 0 177
Node name: kvm1
Node ID: 1
Multicast addresses: 239.192.3.8
Node addresses: 192.168.10.1
I have no services or filesystem on cluster. Only the infra with cman and clvmd
[r...@virtfed ~]# clustat
Cluster Status for kvm @ Wed Jul 22 16:00:14 2009
Member Status: Quorate
Member Name ID Status
-- --
kvm11 Online, Local
kvm22 Offline
[r...@virtfed ~]# vgs
cluster request failed: Unknown error 65538
cluster request failed: Unknown error 65538
VG #PV #LV #SN Attr VSize VFree
vg_qemu011 9 0 wz--nc 52.12G 13.07G
vg_virtfed 1 2 0 wz--n- 16.00G 0
Internal error: Volume Group vg_qemu01 was not unlocked
Internal error: Volume Group vg_virtfed was not unlocked
Device '/dev/drbd0' has been left open.
Device '/dev/block/104:2' has been left open.
Device '/dev/drbd0' has been left open.
Device '/dev/block/104:2' has been left open.
Device '/dev/block/104:2' has been left open.
Device '/dev/drbd0' has been left open.
Device '/dev/block/104:2' has been left open.
so it seems that the cluster attribute is correctly present only for vg_qemu01
It seems that I can do normal operations such as adding an LV and so
on, but I don't understand the errors about
Internal error: Volume Group vg_qemu01 was not unlocked
and
Device '/dev/drbd0' has been left open.
Any clues?
dumpconfig from lvm prompt gives:
devices {
dir=/dev
scan=/dev
preferred_names=[]
filter=[a|^/dev/cciss/c0d0p2$|, a|drbd.*|, r|.*|]
cache_dir=/etc/lvm/cache
cache_file_prefix=
write_cache_state=1
sysfs_scan=1
md_component_detection=1
md_chunk_alignment=1
data_alignment=0
ignore_suspended_devices=0
}
activation {
missing_stripe_filler=error
reserved_stack=256
reserved_memory=8192
process_priority=-18
mirror_region_size=512
readahead=auto
mirror_log_fault_policy=allocate
mirror_device_fault_policy=remove
}
global {
umask=63
test=0
units=h
activation=1
proc=/proc
locking_type=3
fallback_to_clustered_locking=1
fallback_to_local_locking=1
locking_dir=/var/lock/lvm
}
shell {
history_size=100
}
backup {
backup=1
backup_dir=/etc/lvm/backup
archive=1
archive_dir=/etc/lvm/archive
retain_min=10
retain_days=30
}
log {
verbose=0
syslog=1
file=/var/log/lvm2.log
overwrite=0
level=6
indent=1
command_names=0
prefix=
}
I set log verbosse (level 6) and when I run vgs command i get inside
the file /var/log/lvm2.log:
config/config.c:955 log/activation not found in config: defaulting to 0
commands/toolcontext.c:189 Logging initialised at Wed Jul 22 15:58:19 2009
config/config.c:950 Setting global/umask to 63
commands/toolcontext.c:210 Set umask to 0077
config/config.c:927 Setting devices/dir to /dev
config/config.c:927 Setting global/proc to /proc
config/config.c:950 Setting global/activation to 1
config/config.c:955 global/suffix not found in config: defaulting to 1
config/config.c:927 Setting global/units to h
config/config.c:927 Setting activation/readahead to auto
config/config.c:927 Setting activation/missing_stripe_filler to error
device/dev-cache.c:485 devices/preferred_names not found in config
file: using built-in preferences
config/config.c:950 Setting devices/ignore_suspended_devices to 0
config/config.c:927 Setting devices/cache_dir to /etc/lvm/cache
config/config.c:950 Setting devices/write_cache_state to 1
filters/filter-persistent.c:131 Loaded persistent
Re: F11: kill -9 doesn't work
On 07/22/2009 02:07 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 01:02:09PM +0100, Terry Barnaby wrote: Hi, I have noticed on several occasions, that running kill -9pid on a GUI 3D process that is locked at 100% CPU usage (X-Server 100% also) does not work. The 100% lockup I'm sure is due to the currently buggy 3D support (ATI in my case), but I am surprised that I cannot kill either the GUI or X processes. Only a reboot appears to work. Has something changed here ?? If you provide more details, such as the actual process you're running, people might be able to try to duplicate the problem. I've never seen an occasion where kill -9 didn't work, but that doesn't mean it's not possible with some horribly written code. The system in question is a dual Xeon system running Fedora-11 with all updates to 2009-07-22. Graphics board is an ATI RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO]. I have some applications installed from rpmfusion including paraview. Currently if I run paraview, X goes to 100% and I can no longer operate the system via mouse/keyboard. Via a network login I can killall -9 X but that does nothing to X. I have also tried killing paraview in the same way with no effect (possibly after trying to kill X). I know 3D is horribly broken in F11 :( as well as many other things, but I would have thought that kill -9 should still work ... Cheers Terry -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: solved - Re: 3 finger salute gone in F11
On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 16:59 -0700, Mick M. wrote: --- On Mon, 7/13/09, Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: From: Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: 3 finger salute gone in F11 To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 4:26 PM On 07/14/2009 04:29 AM, Mick M. wrote: Hi; the other day I needed to kill X. Much to my surprise ctl-alt-backspace did not work. When and why did this happen? How do I get it back? http://ryanler.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/controlaltbackspace-shortcut-does-not-restart-the-x-server-in-fedora-11/ Rahul Thanks for us KDE users: f - System- System Settings - Keyboard and Mouse - Global Keyboard shortcuts - KDE component Run Command Interface - Log out without confirmation = Control-Alt-Shift-Delete pressing Control-Alt-Shift-Delete puts you into the graphical login screen. So now it is a four finger salute. Thanks for posting this. I reassigned reboot to be ctrl-alt-del and logout without confirmation to be ctrl-alt-shift-del. Because that is what I think they should be. Its really nice that KDE gives us those options. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What is this .gvfs directory?
On 07/22/2009 09:01 AM, Bradley wrote: On 07/22/2009 07:17 AM, davide wrote: Bradleypursley001at comcast.net writes: I have my system do regular automated backups and just noticed that the backups have been failing do to a .gvfs directory there is a similar thread quite recent. search into the archives, there is a solution (a dirty hack maybe) for the backup issue. Okay, read the thread but apparently there is no solution to this problem. Has anyone tried permanently breaking or disabling fuse so that it doesn't create the directory in the first place? Final update on this thread for me: Well, I decided to break fuse by making the executables in the /bin and /sbin directories unavailable and, guess what? The directory still appears but with normal access rights thereby fixing my problem. All other system operations seem to be working normally except that I have to enter the root password for mounting temporary files systems, which is fine since I'm the only one that uses them on my system. This will be my workaround that works great! Bradley -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: kill -9 doesn't work
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 03:01:50PM +0100, Terry Barnaby wrote: On 07/22/2009 02:07 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 01:02:09PM +0100, Terry Barnaby wrote: Hi, I have noticed on several occasions, that running kill -9pid on a GUI 3D process that is locked at 100% CPU usage (X-Server 100% also) does not work. The 100% lockup I'm sure is due to the currently buggy 3D support (ATI in my case), but I am surprised that I cannot kill either the GUI or X processes. Only a reboot appears to work. Has something changed here ?? If you provide more details, such as the actual process you're running, people might be able to try to duplicate the problem. I've never seen an occasion where kill -9 didn't work, but that doesn't mean it's not possible with some horribly written code. The system in question is a dual Xeon system running Fedora-11 with all updates to 2009-07-22. Graphics board is an ATI RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO]. I have some applications installed from rpmfusion including paraview. Currently if I run paraview, X goes to 100% and I can no longer operate the system via mouse/keyboard. Via a network login I can killall -9 X but that does nothing to X. I have also tried killing paraview in the same way with no effect (possibly after trying to kill X). I know 3D is horribly broken in F11 :( as well as many other things, but I would have thought that kill -9 should still work ... Isn't it 'killall -9 Xorg'? And you'd probably need to issue that command as root, otherwise permission denied. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What is this .gvfs directory?
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:01:17 -0500 Bradley wrote: Okay, read the thread but apparently there is no solution to this problem. You musta missed this one :-). https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-July/msg00639.html -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 networkmanager, anyone else worried by this?
On Wed, 2009-07-22 at 12:10 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: 3. The connection is always lost (in my case) after Suspend to RAM. This used to happen to me on F10, but doesn't on F11. The difference is in the Wifi driver, i.e. it's not a NetworkManager bug as such. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: kill -9 doesn't work
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:01:50 +0100 Terry Barnaby wrote: I know 3D is horribly broken in F11 :( as well as many other things, but I would have thought that kill -9 should still work ... Not if it is stuck inside the kernel, kill -9 only kills things as they come out of the kernel. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Slightly OT] Re: Ranter or evangelist?
On Wed, 2009-07-22 at 01:46 -0700, Peter Gordon wrote: GNU/Linux, indeed most F/OSS on the other hand, has been spread by advocacy, passed among friends, et al. We don't have more than 12 million users because we're defacto. Not by a long shot. We as a community have EARNED those 12-point-something million users through merit: because we're just that awesome at doing what we do! We *want* people to go and improve upon our code. We *want* people to share it with others. We *want* people to be productive. We *want* people to use their computers, not as dictated by their vendors or software companies, but _however_they_see_fit_. And those users actively WANT to use Linux. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 networkmanager, anyone else worried by this?
2009/7/22 Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net: 3. The connection is always lost (in my case) after Suspend to RAM. You can't maintain a connection when suspended. Richard. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: firefox/flash and pulseaudio
On 07/22/2009 03:15 AM, Danny Yee wrote: Can someone confirm that firefox/flash is using pulseaudio on their system? That is, if you run pavucontrol while listening to a youtube video (or something similar) in firefox, can you see the audio stream? Yup. It's there. rh -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: kill -9 doesn't work
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:23:46AM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:01:50 +0100 Terry Barnaby wrote: I know 3D is horribly broken in F11 :( as well as many other things, but I would have thought that kill -9 should still work ... Not if it is stuck inside the kernel, kill -9 only kills things as they come out of the kernel. And since the OP indicated he was using the ATI driver, I'd say this might be a classic case study in why proprietary, closed-source drivers are bad from the user's perspective too, not just the distro's. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: kill -9 doesn't work
On Wed, 2009-07-22 at 10:23 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:01:50 +0100 Terry Barnaby wrote: I know 3D is horribly broken in F11 :( as well as many other things, but I would have thought that kill -9 should still work ... Not if it is stuck inside the kernel, kill -9 only kills things as they come out of the kernel. Indeed. I have a bug in the Intel video driver, tickled by running the foobillard game. The only solution is to reboot. I've reported it (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510948) and someone else also reported a similar one (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=509598) but I've seen absolutely no feedback on either of these. Is no-one else running OpenGl apps under F11? Should I report this bug upstream? poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 networkmanager, anyone else worried by this?
On 7/22/09, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/22 Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net: 3. The connection is always lost (in my case) after Suspend to RAM. You can't maintain a connection when suspended. But you can get it back immediately after wake-up. This works for me 100% with wicd and 95% with NM. Andras -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: kill -9 doesn't work
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 10:32:52 -0400 Paul W. Frields wrote: And since the OP indicated he was using the ATI driver, I'd say this might be a classic case study in why proprietary, closed-source drivers are bad from the user's perspective too, not just the distro's. I think he meant the xorg ati driver. As far as I know there is no binary from ati that works on f11's version of xorg yet. I certainly had the xorg ati driver puking its guts all over at least one machine at work till I figured out how to make it switch to the vesa driver. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: kill -9 doesn't work
On Wed, 2009-07-22 at 10:32 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:23:46AM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:01:50 +0100 Terry Barnaby wrote: I know 3D is horribly broken in F11 :( as well as many other things, but I would have thought that kill -9 should still work ... Not if it is stuck inside the kernel, kill -9 only kills things as they come out of the kernel. And since the OP indicated he was using the ATI driver, I'd say this might be a classic case study in why proprietary, closed-source drivers are bad from the user's perspective too, not just the distro's. Unfortunately a similar situation with the Intel driver is getting no attention whatsoever. See my reply elsewhere on this thread. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: IPV6 stuck on, F11 (Bruno Wolff III)
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:28:46 +0200, Bill Murray william.john.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Ideas anyone please? Are you using x86_64 with just the i586 version of nss-mdns installed? If so install the x64_64 version and that will likely fix your problem. Yup, this fixes it. Thanks for the fix - but its a little wierd that I got into this place at all. I think I installed x86_64 F10 and then upgraded to F11. I don't know why I have i586 nss-mdns. But maybe I misremembered the above. Anyway its working now. Ps Jim: Thanks for the ideas, but Bruno's fix was shorter. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What is this .gvfs directory?
If you are using rsync then simply excluding .gvfs should do the trick nicely. Does rsync's '-x' option work in this case? I don't seem to have a mount handy to try. Yes.. the rsync case is fixed by excluding .gvfs as I said. Not tried the same with other apps that break eg tar. It isn't clear what should happen though to be honest - should an rsync of your home dir go off and rsync all the magic fake stuff ? Alan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: kill -9 doesn't work
On 07/22/2009 03:23 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:01:50 +0100 Terry Barnaby wrote: I know 3D is horribly broken in F11 :( as well as many other things, but I would have thought that kill -9 should still work ... Not if it is stuck inside the kernel, kill -9 only kills things as they come out of the kernel. Kernel code should be written so that it aborts any possible infinite loop when signals are awaiting processing. At least the drivers I have written do (I hope :) )... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
PulseAudio daemon not running ?
Do I have a pulseAudio daemon running or not ? $ ps aux | grep pulse xxx 3054 0.0 0.1 89700 4296 ? Ssl 07:13 0:00 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog xxx 3106 0.0 0.0 10036 2328 ?S07:13 0:00 /usr/libexec/pulse/gconf-helper However, when I go KDE-f-administration-Services Service Configuration, the PulseAudio service is not shown. How do I install the pulseAudio daemon and get it running ? Thanks $ yum list \*pulse \* Loaded plugins: dellsysidplugin2, downloadonly, kmdl, priorities, refresh-packagekit 1 packages excluded due to repository priority protections Installed Packages alsa-plugins-pulseaudio.i586 1.0.20-2.fc11 @updates pulseaudio.i586 0.9.15-14.fc11 @updates pulseaudio-esound-compat.i586 0.9.15-14.fc11 @updates pulseaudio-libs.i586 0.9.15-14.fc11 @updates pulseaudio-libs-glib2.i586 0.9.15-14.fc11 @updates pulseaudio-libs-zeroconf.i586 0.9.15-14.fc11 @updates pulseaudio-module-bluetooth.i586 0.9.15-14.fc11 @updates pulseaudio-module-gconf.i586 0.9.15-14.fc11 @updates pulseaudio-module-zeroconf.i586 0.9.15-14.fc11 @updates pulseaudio-utils.i586 0.9.15-14.fc11 @updates wine-pulseaudio.i586 1.1.23-1.fc11 @updates xine-lib-pulseaudio.i586 1.1.16.3-2.fc11 @fedora xmms-pulse.i586 0.9.4-7.fc11 @fedora -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: kill -9 doesn't work
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:38:49AM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 10:32:52 -0400 Paul W. Frields wrote: And since the OP indicated he was using the ATI driver, I'd say this might be a classic case study in why proprietary, closed-source drivers are bad from the user's perspective too, not just the distro's. I think he meant the xorg ati driver. As far as I know there is no binary from ati that works on f11's version of xorg yet. I certainly had the xorg ati driver puking its guts all over at least one machine at work till I figured out how to make it switch to the vesa driver. I guess it was unclear from the post, I ASSUMEd too much. ;-) Did you use the following command to do that? system-config-display --verbose --noui --reconfig --set-driver=vesa Or something else? -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: kill -9 doesn't work
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:05:17AM -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2009-07-22 at 10:32 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:23:46AM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:01:50 +0100 Terry Barnaby wrote: I know 3D is horribly broken in F11 :( as well as many other things, but I would have thought that kill -9 should still work ... Not if it is stuck inside the kernel, kill -9 only kills things as they come out of the kernel. And since the OP indicated he was using the ATI driver, I'd say this might be a classic case study in why proprietary, closed-source drivers are bad from the user's perspective too, not just the distro's. Unfortunately a similar situation with the Intel driver is getting no attention whatsoever. See my reply elsewhere on this thread. I looked in this thread and didn't see it, but maybe the thread was broken a while back. If you have a URL in the archives, much appreciated. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: IPV6 stuck on, F11 (Bruno Wolff III)
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 04:48:45PM +0200, Bill Murray wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:28:46 +0200, Bill Murray william.john.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Ideas anyone please? Are you using x86_64 with just the i586 version of nss-mdns installed? If so install the x64_64 version and that will likely fix your problem. Yup, this fixes it. Thanks for the fix - but its a little wierd that I got into this place at all. I think I installed x86_64 F10 and then upgraded to F11. I don't know why I have i586 nss-mdns. But maybe I misremembered the above. Anyway its working now. Ps Jim: Thanks for the ideas, but Bruno's fix was shorter. Could have been that you tried the Chromium test packages, but I think there are one or two other things out there that drag in nss-mdns.i586. Spot has fixed the Chromium test packages not to leave out nss-mdns.x86_64 now on 64-bit systems, I believe. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: kill -9 doesn't work
On 07/22/2009 03:32 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:23:46AM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:01:50 +0100 Terry Barnaby wrote: I know 3D is horribly broken in F11 :( as well as many other things, but I would have thought that kill -9 should still work ... Not if it is stuck inside the kernel, kill -9 only kills things as they come out of the kernel. And since the OP indicated he was using the ATI driver, I'd say this might be a classic case study in why proprietary, closed-source drivers are bad from the user's perspective too, not just the distro's. I am using the standard OpenSource XOrg ATI driver radeon with the appropriate DRM/Mesa bits as per a standard F11 release. I have three other systems with F11 on them, some various ATI chipsets and some Intel, all of these have 3D issues mainly major ones with F11. Certainly, in my opinion, F11 not suitable for 3D apps at the moment ... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: IPV6 stuck on, F11 (Bruno Wolff III)
2009/7/22 Bill Murray william.john.mur...@gmail.com On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:28:46 +0200, Bill Murray william.john.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Ideas anyone please? Are you using x86_64 with just the i586 version of nss-mdns installed? If so install the x64_64 version and that will likely fix your problem. Yup, this fixes it. Thanks for the fix - but its a little wierd that I got into this place at all. I think I installed x86_64 F10 and then upgraded to F11. I don't know why I have i586 nss-mdns. But maybe I misremembered the above. Anyway its working now. Ps Jim: Thanks for the ideas, but Bruno's fix was shorter. Paul W. Frields just suggested the problem was I installed Chromium - he got it in one! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
