Re: [Fwd: Re: [Fedora-cs-list] Preklad Release Notes]
Adam Pribyl napsal(a): Taky jsem na to koukal a moc z toho (co je na webu, popr. v TQSG) moudry nejsem. Myslel jsem si, ze bude stacit pridat vlastne kopii release notes do cs ve Websites, ale tak to zrejme nechodi. Dyztak se pak podel o sve zkusenosti, at vime pro priste jak na to. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=514153 Njn, promin, tohle jsem nejak predtim prehlidl. A muzes prosim dat informaci o dostupnosti Release Notes k pripominkam v češtině na forum fedora.cz? Ja tema ve foru pridat nemuzu, a z jiz existujicich temat jsem si nedokazal vybrat, do ktereho to pridat jako odpoved. A mas (mate i vy ostatni) nejaky napad, jak nejlepe zvladnout opravy chyb? Nabizi se nekolik moznosti, bud mi lide mohou posilat sve prispevky na e-mail, nebo to muzeme resit jen v ramci fora na fedora.cz, nebo jen pres tuto e-mail konferenci, atd. atd. Co bude nejschudnejsi? Pepa Hruška -- Fedora-cs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-cs-list http://fedoraproject.org/
non root X
Hi A few days back I ran into http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2009-July/001293.html I am wondering, since we are already using KMS in most places in Fedora, how far are we from achieving this by default in a Fedora release? Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: More Fedora mock breakage
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 08:41:17PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 06:48:54PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) boche...@fedoraproject.org writes: ERROR with rpm_check_debug vs depsolve: rpmlib(PayloadIsXz) is needed by exim-4.69-12.fc12.x86_64 I had the same on F11, building in a Rawhide mock. I was advised to update rpm to 4.7.1 that was in updates-testing, which fixed the problem. [ consults CVS... ] So XZ support in F-11's rpm is less than a week old, there is *no* support in F-10, and we're already requiring the capability in order to do useful development work? All I can say is WTF. Did you have a better plan for migrating to an XZ payload for F12 in time for Alpha? IMHO there should be a much larger window between providing an new feature in RPM, and requiring it for development. eg, new features should go into RPM in rawhide F11 at least 2-3 months before we require them. Yes this would have required XZ support to be merged much sooner in the F12 schedule, or alternatively merge XZ support in F12, but don't use it till F13. Daniel -- |: Red Hat, Engineering, London -o- http://people.redhat.com/berrange/ :| |: http://libvirt.org -o- http://virt-manager.org -o- http://ovirt.org :| |: http://autobuild.org -o- http://search.cpan.org/~danberr/ :| |: GnuPG: 7D3B9505 -o- F3C9 553F A1DA 4AC2 5648 23C1 B3DF F742 7D3B 9505 :| -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
rawhide report: 20090803 changes
Compose started at Mon Aug 3 06:15:05 UTC 2009 Updated Packages: DeviceKit-power-010-3.fc12 -- * Sun Aug 02 2009 Richard Hughes rich...@hughsie.com - 010-3 - Put the development include files in the devel packagem not the main package. - Fixes #515104 R2spec-2.5.3-1.fc12 --- * Sun Aug 02 2009 Pingou pingou-at-pingoured.fr 2.5.3-1 - New upstream release abiword-2.7.8-1.fc12 * Sun Aug 02 2009 Marc Maurer u...@abisource.com - 1:2.7.8-1 - New upstream version * Mon Jul 27 2009 Marc Maurer u...@abisource.com - 1:2.7.7-1 - New upstream release - Add --enable-dynamic to configure so plugins link against libabiword.so * Mon Jul 27 2009 Marc Maurer u...@abisource.com - 1:2.7.7-2 - Add a patch to work around a templates makefile bug * Mon Jul 27 2009 Marc Maurer u...@abisource.com - 1:2.7.7-3 - Rerun autogen.sh after changing the makefiles bugzilla-3.4.1-1.fc12 - * Sun Aug 02 2009 Emmanuel Seyman emmanuel.sey...@club-internet.fr - 3.4.1-1 - Update to 3.4.1, fixing a security leak control-center-2.27.4-4.fc12 * Sun Aug 02 2009 Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com - 2.27.4-4 - Drop unneeded direct deps filelight-1.9-3.rc2.fc12 * Sun Aug 02 2009 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com - 1.9-3.rc2 - fix some rpmlint complaints: - Follow cmake_kde4 recipe untabify convert ChangeLog to utf8 don't mark filelightrc as config * Fri Jul 31 2009 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com - 1.9-2.rc2 - Updates for kde4 - Update to 1.9rc2 gaupol-0.15-3.fc12 -- * Sun Aug 02 2009 Lucian Langa co...@gnome.eu.org - 0.15-3 - do not remove required file (b.g.o #590537) gimp-resynthesizer-0.16-1.fc12 -- * Sun Aug 02 2009 Ewan Mac Mahon e...@macmahon.me.uk - 0.16-1 - Bump to version 0.16 - Patch makefile to allow Fedora CFLAGS to override defaults. gnome-backgrounds-2.24.1-3.fc12 --- * Sun Aug 02 2009 Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com - 2.24.1-3 - Co-own /usr/share/backgrounds instead of requiring desktop-backgrounds-basic gnome-python2-desktop-2.27.2-3.fc12 --- * Sun Aug 02 2009 Matthew Barnes mbar...@redhat.com - 2.27.2-3.fc12 - Disable nautilus-cd-burner bindings. Package is dead. gthumb-2.10.11-6.fc12 - * Mon Aug 03 2009 Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com - 2.10.11-6 - Drop unneeded direct deps haproxy-1.3.19-1.fc12 - * Sun Aug 02 2009 Jeremy Hinegardner jeremy at hinegardner dot org - 1.3.19-1 - update to 1.3.19 jam-2.5-9.fc12 -- * Mon Aug 03 2009 Lubomir Rintel lkund...@v3.sk - 2.5-9 - Add the stack overflow fix patch js-1.70-8.fc12 -- * Sun Aug 02 2009 Pavel Alexeev pa...@hubbitus.info - 1.70-8 - Reformat spec with tabs. - By report of Thomas Sondergaard (BZ#511162) Add -DXP_UNIX=1 -DJS_THREADSAFE=1 flags and nspr requires into libjs.pc kdeaccessibility-4.3.0-3.fc12 - * Sun Aug 02 2009 Rex Dieter rdie...@fedoraproject.org 1:4.3.0-3 - include epoch's in -libs-related Requires kdeplasma-addons-4.3.0-2.fc12 - * Sun Aug 02 2009 Rex Dieter rdie...@fedoraproject.org - 4.3.0-2 - fix to allow updating of status via microblog plasmoid kdeutils-4.3.0-3.fc12 - * Sun Aug 02 2009 Rex Dieter rdie...@fedoraproject.org - 6:4.3.0-3 - include epoch's in -libs-related Requires libchewing-0.3.2-15.fc12 * Mon Aug 03 2009 Ding-Yi Chen dchen at redhat dot com - 0.3.2-15 - Fix [Bug 512108:issue 11] ibus-chewing crash the application by move cursor_orig to chewingio.c global. libnice-0.0.9-1.fc12 * Sun Aug 02 2009 Brian Pepple bpep...@fedoraproject.org - 0.0.9-1 - Update to 0.0.9. - Drop sha1 patch. Fixed upstream. lklug-fonts-0.6-1.20090803cvs.fc12 -- * Mon Aug 03 2009 Parag pnem...@redhat.com - 0.6-1.20090803cvs - update to cvs snapshot 20090803. lxpanel-0.5.1-1.fc12 * Sun Aug 02 2009 Christoph Wickert cwick...@fedoraproject.org - 0.5.1-1 - Update to 0.5.1 - Remove cpu-history.patch and manpages.patch, fixed upstream - Thu Jul 27 2009 Christoph Wickert cwick...@fedoraproject.org - 0.5.0-1 - Update to 0.5.0 magic-8.0.51-1.fc12 --- mfiler2-4.0.9b-5.fc12.Repack1 - * Mon Aug 03 2009 Mamoru Tasaka mtas...@ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp - 4.0.9b-5.Repack1 - 4.0.9b maintenance release nautilus-2.27.4-3.fc12 -- * Sun Aug 02 2009 Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com - 2.27.4-3 - Drop desktop-backgrounds-basic dep that we've carried for 9 years without ever making use of it nginx-0.7.61-1.fc12 --- * Sun Aug 02 2009 Jeremy Hinegardner jeremy at hinegardner dot org - 0.7.61-1 - Update to new stable 0.7.61 perltidy-20090616-2.fc12 * Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora
Trouble with F11 build
Built on devel OK. Then I try to build for F11 and get http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1575532 Complains about error: Bad source: /builddir/build/SOURCES/filelight_part.desktop.diff: No such file or directory But cvs says: File: filelight_part.desktop.diff Status: Up-to-date Working revision:1.1 Repository revision: 1.1 /cvs/pkgs/rpms/filelight/F-11/filelight_part.desktop.diff,v Sticky Tag: (none) Sticky Date: (none) Sticky Options: (none) -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Trouble with F11 build
On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 08:40 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: Built on devel OK. Then I try to build for F11 and get http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1575532 Complains about error: Bad source: /builddir/build/SOURCES/filelight_part.desktop.diff: No such file or directory You didn't tag it: http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/rpms/filelight/F-11/filelight_part.desktop.diff?view=log -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: License change for ghostscript
On 07/31/2009 04:19 PM, Tim Waugh wrote:
On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 22:47 +0300, Ville Skyttä wrote:
This might cause problems for a bunch of packages.
$ repoquery --repoid=rawhide --whatrequires --alldeps ghostscript ghostscript-
gtk --qf=%{NAME}: %{LICENSE} | grep -vP '\bGPL(v3|\S*\+)' | sort
Wouldn't it be packages using the libraries that might pose problems?
$ repoquery --repoid=rawhide --whatrequires --alldeps
'libgs.so.8()(64bit)' 'libijs-0.35.so()(64bit)' --qf=%{NAME}:
%{LICENSE}
foomatic: GPLv2+
ghostscript-devel: GPLv2 and Redistributable, no modification permitted
libspectre: GPLv2+
ImageMagick: ImageMagick
ghostscript: GPLv2 and Redistributable, no modification permitted
ghostscript-gtk: GPLv2 and Redistributable, no modification permitted
ghostscript-devel: GPLv2 and Redistributable, no modification permitted
gutenprint: GPLv2+
Other packages would be invoking the executable, which (AIUI) is not
considered based on ghostscript.
The ImageMagick license seems to be compatible with GPLv3.
I'm really only concerned about these library linking cases, which all
seem to be GPLv3 compatible.
I think it is a reasonable argument that applications which call out to
ghostscript are well separated, thus, can be sanely treated as two
separate programs.
~spot
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Re: More Fedora mock breakage
Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.com writes: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 08:41:17PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 06:48:54PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: [ consults CVS... ] So XZ support in F-11's rpm is less than a week old, there is *no* support in F-10, and we're already requiring the capability in order to do useful development work? All I can say is WTF. Did you have a better plan for migrating to an XZ payload for F12 in time for Alpha? IMHO there should be a much larger window between providing an new feature in RPM, and requiring it for development. eg, new features should go into RPM in rawhide F11 at least 2-3 months before we require them. Yes this would have required XZ support to be merged much sooner in the F12 schedule, or alternatively merge XZ support in F12, but don't use it till F13. I would be satisfied if there was any window at all. The upthread suggestions that it's okay to expect every individual Fedora packager to cope with this for themselves were insane, not to say insulting. I have real work to do, and dealing with that sort of make-work is not it. regards, tom lane -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: F12 mass rebuild status
drago01 (drag...@gmail.com) said: (done that for you http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1574035 ) I see. I guess they'll let you and/or me know if this wasn't the right thing to do. Well rel-eng did the mass rebuild and give us a list of the failed packages, fixing them does not create extra but _less_ work for them ;) Exactly; while rel-eng *could* resubmit failed builds, and may submit some at some point, we are perfectly happy not to have to, and doing so will speed things along in general. Bill -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: F12 mass rebuild status
On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 18:24 -0400, William Cohen wrote: What is the procedure for dropping packages? With the incorporation of the PCL (Performance Counters for Linux) in upcoming Linux kernel 2.6.31 there doesn't seem like there will be much need for libpfm and pfmon packages in F12. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/PackageEndOfLife -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Clipboard manager by default in Fedora 11
Ian Chapman, Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:47:23 +0800: I'd like to see some consistency between how apps handle clipboard content, when 1. The user highlights content and pastes using the middle mouse button 2. The user uses the copy paste menu options or hot keys. Read this http://www.jwz.org/doc/x-cut-and-paste.html first please. Thank you Matěj -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: rpms/blender/devel blender-2.49.config, 1.4, 1.5 blender-repack.sh, 1.2, 1.3 blender.spec, 1.121, 1.122
Can we have an explanation about why the Changelog entry doesn't
really match what was actually committed ?
Nicolas (kwizart)
2009/8/3 Jochen Schmitt s450...@fedoraproject.org:
Author: s4504kr
Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/blender/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv28431
Modified Files:
blender-2.49.config blender-repack.sh blender.spec
Log Message:
Rebuild for python-2.6.2
Index: blender-2.49.config
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/blender/devel/blender-2.49.config,v
retrieving revision 1.4
retrieving revision 1.5
diff -u -p -r1.4 -r1.5
--- blender-2.49.config 19 Jun 2009 13:20:36 - 1.4
+++ blender-2.49.config 3 Aug 2009 16:38:43 - 1.5
@@ -50,9 +50,9 @@ BF_GETTEXT_LIB = 'gettextlib qhull'
BF_GETTEXT_LIBPATH = '@LIB@'
WITH_BF_FTGL = 'true'
-BF_FTGL = '#extern/bFTGL'
-BF_FTGL_INC = '${BF_FTGL}/include/'
-BF_FTGL_LIB = 'extern_ftgl'
+BF_FTGL = '/usr'
+BF_FTGL_INC = '${BF_FTGL}/include/FTGL'
+BF_FTGL_LIB = ['ftgl', '@LIB@']
WITH_BF_GAMEENGINE='true'
Index: blender-repack.sh
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/blender/devel/blender-repack.sh,v
retrieving revision 1.2
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -u -p -r1.2 -r1.3
--- blender-repack.sh 19 Jun 2009 13:54:39 - 1.2
+++ blender-repack.sh 3 Aug 2009 16:38:43 - 1.3
@@ -24,7 +24,7 @@ pushd extern
#Removed because of ip
rm -rf ffmpeg libmp3lame x264 xvidcore
#Removed because we can expect to use system one
- rm -rf fftw glew libopenjpeg ode qhull make verse
+# rm -rf fftw glew libopenjpeg ode qhull make verse
#Will have to be removed later: bFTGL
popd
rm -rf scons
Index: blender.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/blender/devel/blender.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.121
retrieving revision 1.122
diff -u -p -r1.121 -r1.122
--- blender.spec 24 Jul 2009 18:09:52 - 1.121
+++ blender.spec 3 Aug 2009 16:38:43 - 1.122
@@ -5,7 +5,7 @@
Name: blender
Version: 2.49a
-Release: 3%{?dist}
+Release: 4%{?dist}
Summary: 3D modeling, animation, rendering and post-production
@@ -80,8 +80,6 @@ Requires: dejavu-fonts
Provides: blender-fonts = %{version}-%{release}
Obsoletes: blender-fonts = 2.48a-9
-
-
%description
Blender is the essential software solution you need for 3D, from modeling,
animation, rendering and post-production to interactive creation and
playback.
@@ -110,6 +108,20 @@ Blender Game Engine.
%patch100 -p1
%patch101 -p1
+# binreloc is not a part of fedora
+rm -rf extern/bFTGL
+rm -rf extern/ffmpeg
+rm -rf extern/fftw
+rm -rf extern/glew
+rm -rf extern/libmp3lame
+rm -rf extern/libopenjpeg
+rm -rf extern/libredcode
+rm -rf extern/ode
+rm -rf extern/x264
+rm -rf extern/xvidcore
+rm -rf extern/qhull
+rm -rf extern/make
+rm -rf extern/verse
PYVER=$(%{__python} -c import sys ; print sys.version[:3])
@@ -233,6 +245,9 @@ fi || :
%{_bindir}/blenderplayer.bin
%changelog
+* Mon Aug 3 2009 Jochen Schmitt Jochen herr-schmitt de 2.49a-4
+- Rebuild for python-2.6.2
+
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering
rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org - 2.49a-3
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
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Last few orphans left
There are only a few orphans left. I blocked all that weren't causing dep breakage, so these /really/ need a home or we need to block a few more things beyond just the orphans. glade2 is on this list because it was just recently orphaned. Unblocked orphan cryptix Unblocked orphan glade2 Unblocked orphan libdockapp Unblocked orphan qt-qsa Unblocked orphan tomoe List of deps left behind by orphan removal: Orphan: cryptix cryptix-asn1 requires cryptix = 3.2.0-13.fc12 Orphan: libdockapp wmacpi requires libdockapp.so.2 wmacpi requires libdockapp-devel = 0.6.2-3.fc12 Orphan: qt-qsa LabPlot requires qt-qsa-devel = 1.1.5-7.fc12 LabPlot requires libqsa.so.1 Orphan: tomoe tomoe-gtk requires tomoe-devel = 0.6.0-15.fc12 tomoe-gtk requires tomoe = 0.6.0-15.fc12 tomoe-gtk requires libtomoe.so.0 tomoe-gtk-devel requires pkgconfig(tomoe) = 0.6.0 tomoe-gtk-devel requires tomoe-devel = 0.6.0-15.fc12 tomoe-gtk-devel requires libtomoe.so.0 The script that generated this page can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/browser/scripts/find-unblocked-orphans.py There you can also report bugs and RFEs. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
F11: Bug in sh-4.0 source build-in command
There is a bug in sh-4.0 source command: Must specify directory (./file) for filename, without not work. sh-4.0# cd /tmp sh-4.0# echo aaa=ppp sourcefile sh-4.0# ls -l sourcefile -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8 3 ago 20:37 sourcefile sh-4.0# cat sourcefile aaa=ppp sh-4.0# . sourcefile sh: .: sourcefile: file not found sh-4.0# source sourcefile sh: source: sourcefile: file not found sh-4.0# echo $aaa sh-4.0# source ./sourcefile sh-4.0# echo $aaa ppp sh-4.0# exit hope this help. -- Dario Lesca d.le...@solinos.it -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Last few orphans left
Unblocked orphan tomoe dchen (CC'ed) was interested in tomoe. In fact he is one of the co-maintainers. Cheerio, Debarshi -- One reason that life is complex is that it has a real part and an imaginary part. -- Andrew Koenig -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: F11: Bug in sh-4.0 source build-in command
Dne Mon, 03 Aug 2009 20:46:55 +0200 Dario Lesca napsal(a): There is a bug in sh-4.0 source command: Must specify directory (./file) for filename, without not work. sh-4.0# cd /tmp sh-4.0# echo aaa=ppp sourcefile sh-4.0# ls -l sourcefile -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8 3 ago 20:37 sourcefile sh-4.0# cat sourcefile aaa=ppp sh-4.0# . sourcefile sh: .: sourcefile: file not found sh-4.0# source sourcefile sh: source: sourcefile: file not found sh-4.0# echo $aaa sh-4.0# source ./sourcefile sh-4.0# echo $aaa ppp sh-4.0# exit hope this help. Not a bug. You're running bash in POSIX mode (probably you ran sh). In POSIX mode the current directory is not searched by the source command. This is documented in the manpage. Michal -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: [Fedora-it] F11: Bug in sh-4.0 source build-in command
AFAIK, bash looks in PATH for the command 'source' 2009/8/3 Dario Lesca d.le...@solinos.it There is a bug in sh-4.0 source command: Must specify directory (./file) for filename, without not work. sh-4.0# cd /tmp sh-4.0# echo aaa=ppp sourcefile sh-4.0# ls -l sourcefile -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8 3 ago 20:37 sourcefile sh-4.0# cat sourcefile aaa=ppp sh-4.0# . sourcefile sh: .: sourcefile: file not found sh-4.0# source sourcefile sh: source: sourcefile: file not found sh-4.0# echo $aaa sh-4.0# source ./sourcefile sh-4.0# echo $aaa ppp sh-4.0# exit hope this help. -- Dario Lesca d.le...@solinos.it ___ Fedora-it-list mailing list fedora-it-l...@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-it-list -- Guido Grazioli guido.grazi...@gmail.com Via Parri 11 48011 - Alfonsine (RA) Mobile: +39 347 1017202 (10-18) Key FP = 7040 F398 0DED A737 7337 DAE1 12DC A698 5E81 2278 Linked in: http://www.linkedin.com/in/guidograzioli -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
python-urlgrabber update to 3.9.0
Hi, I've pushed python-urlgrabber 3.9.0 into rawhide. It is an api-compliant urlgrabber - but it is now backended to libcurl instead of urllib2. In tests so far everything appears to work as intended. However, please let me know if something seems odder than normal with this change. We can revert back to 3.1.X pretty easily. Thanks, -sv -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: python-urlgrabber update to 3.9.0
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Seth Vidal wrote: Hi, I've pushed python-urlgrabber 3.9.0 into rawhide. It is an api-compliant urlgrabber - but it is now backended to libcurl instead of urllib2. In tests so far everything appears to work as intended. However, please let me know if something seems odder than normal with this change. We can revert back to 3.1.X pretty easily. completed build: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=125399 let me know what breaks, -sv -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Release Engineeirng meeting summary for 2009-08-03
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-08-03/fedora-meeting.2009-08-03-18.10.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-08-03/fedora-meeting.2009-08-03-18.10.txt Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-08-03/fedora-meeting.2009-08-03-18.10.log.html Meeting log --- * **roll call** (f13-18:10:25_) * **Old Business** (f13-18:12:54_) * **Orphans (old business)** (f13-18:13:14_) * *ACTION*: f13 will re-post the current orphans that will break deps to try and get some movement on them. (f13-18:16:46_) * **gpg purging (old business)** (f13-18:17:11_) * *ACTION*: f13 still needs to file a ticket about gpg purging in koij (f13-18:17:35_) * **Critical Path (old business)** (f13-18:18:51_) * *LINK*: https://fedorahosted.org/bodhi/ticket/346 (skvidal-18:20:09_) * *ACTION*: now that the ticket has been filed, lmacken will report in a week's time if any progress has been made. (f13-18:23:14_) * *ACTION*: f13 still needs to package offtrac (f13-18:23:32_) * **Mass Rebuild (old business)** (f13-18:24:24_) * *ACTION*: dgilmore will draft an SOP (with help) for managing RPM changes in rawhide. (f13-18:25:49_) * *INFO*: Comps listing of critical packages is not a depclosed listing. (f13-18:33:03_) * **no frozen rawhide (old business)** (f13-18:33:50_) * *ACTION*: f13 still needs to file a bodhi ticket (f13-18:38:04_) * *ACTION*: lmacken will create the ticket instead (f13-18:38:32_) * *AGREED*: No Frozen Rawhide has been punted to Fedora 13 (f13-18:45:44_) * *ACTION*: f13 will report to FESCo this change. (f13-18:46:10_) * **Rawhide fixup for rpm deps (old business)** (f13-18:47:24_) * **Fedora 12 Alpha (old business)** (f13-18:51:06_) * *ACTION*: f13 to fix issues with full pungi composes in order to produce Test Compose for Fedora 12 Alpha (f13-18:52:31_) * **Package Signing (old business)** (f13-18:56:46_) * *ACTION*: f13 will coordinate bridge/vault rebuild with smooge (f13-18:58:56_) * **open floor** (f13-19:07:06_) * *ACTION*: f13 to threaten recursive blocking if orphans are not picked up by tomorrow (f13-19:12:11_) -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
fedoracommunity-0.3.4 bugfix release
I just pushed a new version of the Fedora Community portal into production. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community Changes in this release include: - The Rawhide and Build Owner widget is no longer broken (#289) - The package download release filter is no longer broken (#264) - Huge optimizations in the Bugzilla Connector - Fixed a pagination bug in the Recent Bugs widget (#291) - Brought the pkgdb connector up to speed with recent API changes - Fixed a bug in the watchers/owners grids (#298) - Fixed the broken maintainers grids (#290) - Fixed a couple of timezone-related clock problems (#260, #287) - Properly weigh search results (#292) - Fixed some broken links in the tour - Various other minor UI tweaks Also, today we had a great brainstorming session around future Fedora Community apps. You find find the IRC logs and gobby notes here: https://fedorahosted.org/pipermail/moksha/2009-August/000116.html As always, you can file bugs and feature requests here: https://fedorahosted.org/fedoracommunity/newticket ___ Fedora-devel-announce mailing list fedora-devel-annou...@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-announce -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Review swaps
Hi All, Anyone interested in some review swaps? I have the following packages that I need to get reviewed for Moblin so if you've got a package you'd like to swap (or you've just got a few spare cycles for a plain review) they are as follows: bickley - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506825 bisho - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506833 dalston - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=507223 Cheers, Peter -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Last few orphans left
- Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote: There are only a few orphans left. I blocked all that weren't causing dep breakage, so these /really/ need a home or we need to block a few more things beyond just the orphans. glade2 is on this list because it was just recently orphaned. Unblocked orphan tomoe I would take tomoe, and related package such as tomoe-gtk, scim-tomoe. Regards, -- Ding-Yi Chen Software Engineer Internationalization Group Red Hat, Inc. Looking to carve out IT costs? www.apac.redhat.com/promo/carveoutcosts/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Review swaps
Am Dienstag, den 04.08.2009, 00:39 +0100 schrieb Peter Robinson: Hi All, Anyone interested in some review swaps? I have the following packages that I need to get reviewed for Moblin so if you've got a package you'd like to swap (or you've just got a few spare cycles for a plain review) they are as follows: bickley - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506825 bisho - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506833 dalston - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=507223 Hi Peter, as promised I will take them. You can in turn do: xfce4-stopwatch-plugin - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=514351 whaawmp - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=513420 Cheers, Peter Regards, Christoph -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Broken dependencies in Fedora 10 - 2009-08-03
On 08/03/2009 02:19 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: The following packages in the repository suffer from broken dependencies: == The results in this summary consider Test Updates! == package: python-repoze-what-pylons-1.0-3.fc10.noarch from fedora-updates-10-i386 unresolved deps: python-pylons = 0:0.9.7 python-decorator = 0:3.0 package: python-repoze-what-pylons-1.0-3.fc10.noarch from fedora-updates-10-ppc unresolved deps: python-pylons = 0:0.9.7 python-decorator = 0:3.0 package: python-repoze-what-pylons-1.0-3.fc10.noarch from fedora-updates-10-ppc64 unresolved deps: python-pylons = 0:0.9.7 python-decorator = 0:3.0 package: python-repoze-what-pylons-1.0-3.fc10.noarch from fedora-updates-10-x86_64 unresolved deps: python-pylons = 0:0.9.7 python-decorator = 0:3.0 So.. lmacken, spot, are you planning on making forward compat packages for python-pylons on F-10? If so, I'll update python-decorator. If not, I'd rather not. 3.0 is not 100% API compatible with 2.x. However, the changes are not in very frequently used code and we already verified that the packages that use it within Fedora were okay when we updated for F-11. -Toshio signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: What is your favorite application for use in CS classes?
Hi there, things I'm currently packaging because we use it at our school are: - BlueJ (http://www.bluej.org) - Greenfoot (http://www.greenfoot.org) Those are mainly programs to teach Java and OOP. Felix ___ Fedora-education-list mailing list Fedora-education-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-education-list
[Issue 83491] Massive performance problem due to use of system font config
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[Bug 452357] The mathml-fonts package needs some cleaning up
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[Bug 514549] Review Request: lyx-fonts - Math Symbol fonts
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=514549 Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |CLOSED Resolution||NOTABUG --- Comment #8 from Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu 2009-08-03 11:34:25 EDT --- Meh, looks like upstream intentions are to continue bundling the fonts, which makes me think that simply doing all this inside of the existing lyx pkg is preferable. Closing-NOTABUG (Unless anyone feels strongly otherwise, speak up!) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 514549] Review Request: lyx-fonts - Math Symbol fonts
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=514549 --- Comment #9 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-08-03 12:07:58 EDT --- then the changes will be done in lyx pkg? (just asking, I'm multitasking badly while packing for summer vacations) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 514549] Review Request: lyx-fonts - Math Symbol fonts
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=514549 --- Comment #10 from Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu 2009-08-03 12:12:24 EDT --- Yes, that's my tentative plan at the moment. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 452357] The mathml-fonts package needs some cleaning up
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=452357 --- Comment #11 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net 2009-08-03 13:54:54 EDT --- (In reply to comment #10) TODO/FIXME remains to make lyx compatible with EPEL (in the absense of fontpackages-devel). Still pondering on how best to do that. May end up doing the font management by hand, not relying on fontpackages-devel at all not sure. fontpackages can probably be imported directly in EPEL if you need it, at worst you'll have to tweak the spec templates so they don't use stuff like noarch subpackages. The only hard dep of fontpackages is rpm (also if fontconfig is too old it won't autogenerate font metadata but then there's probably nothing to use it it EPEL either right now) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
rpms/lohit-fonts/devel .cvsignore, 1.10, 1.11 lohit-fonts.spec, 1.13, 1.14 sources, 1.10, 1.11
Author: pravins
Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/lohit-fonts/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv24929
Modified Files:
.cvsignore lohit-fonts.spec sources
Log Message:
* Tue Aug 04 2009 Pravin Satpute psatp...@redhat.com - 2.4.0-1
- Added Unicode 5.1 support in All Lohit fonts
Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/lohit-fonts/devel/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.10
retrieving revision 1.11
diff -u -p -r1.10 -r1.11
--- .cvsignore 5 Mar 2009 14:12:48 - 1.10
+++ .cvsignore 4 Aug 2009 05:10:43 - 1.11
@@ -1 +1,2 @@
lohit-fonts-2.3.8.tar.gz
+lohit-fonts-2.4.0.tar.gz
Index: lohit-fonts.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/lohit-fonts/devel/lohit-fonts.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.13
retrieving revision 1.14
diff -u -p -r1.13 -r1.14
--- lohit-fonts.spec25 Jul 2009 11:16:17 - 1.13
+++ lohit-fonts.spec4 Aug 2009 05:10:43 - 1.14
@@ -7,8 +7,8 @@ Languages.
Name: %{fontname}-fonts
-Version:2.3.8
-Release:2%{?dist}
+Version:2.4.0
+Release:1%{?dist}
Summary:Free Indian truetype/opentype fonts
Group: User Interface/X
@@ -267,6 +267,9 @@ rm -fr %{buildroot}
%changelog
+* Tue Aug 04 2009 Pravin Satpute psatp...@redhat.com - 2.4.0-1
+- Added Unicode 5.1 support in All Lohit fonts
+
* Sat Jul 25 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org
- 2.3.8-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/lohit-fonts/devel/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.10
retrieving revision 1.11
diff -u -p -r1.10 -r1.11
--- sources 5 Mar 2009 14:12:48 - 1.10
+++ sources 4 Aug 2009 05:10:43 - 1.11
@@ -1 +1 @@
-f3b5c3cd8e370f1669d44cec3eab1f2b lohit-fonts-2.3.8.tar.gz
+a729f805c323308ab2c728c8e6fa72c0 lohit-fonts-2.4.0.tar.gz
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Re: Mailing list migration procedures
On 08/03/2009 05:22 AM, Jon Stanley wrote: On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 1:34 AM, Rahul Sundaram Have you thought whether a reorganization is desirable while migrating? Yes, note the section in the document about renaming lists. I wasn't very verbose in there about why you'd want to do that, maybe I was in an earlier draft :). But the words 'fedora' and 'list' should never appear in the list name - it's obvious that it's a list from the domain name (lists.fp.o), as well as it has to do with Fedora (neither of these were true of the lists @redhat.com). The two examples that you cited above would be renamed perl-devel and java-devel, at least that's what makes sense to me. In that case a final list of what lists are going to be migration and what they would be called, long before you initiate the migration would be very helpful. Post to fedora advisory board or eek fedora-devel list /eek to make sure others have a opportunity to chime on it. Rahul ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Mailing list migration procedures
Jon Stanley (jonstan...@gmail.com) said: I'd like some mailman experts (if we have any) to take a look at this procedure to migrate lists from redhat.com to lists.fp.o and let me know if there's something obviously missing from it or if there's some way that it can be improved. Feel free to make any edits you deem necessary. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailman_Infrastructure_SOP#Mailman_migration My concern is more procedural than infrastructural - I'd like to make sure we schedule the mass migration in such a way that it does not heavily disrupt development schedules; generally, this would mean doing it sometime after a release but before the alpha of the next release. Bill ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Handling Undeliverable mail messages
Sorry, I'm not receiving these bounces for some reason :-( On 08/01/2009 10:35 PM, Domsch, Matt wrote: 1) typo Mistmatch in the subject line of these messages: Subject: Undeliverable: Fedora Account System and Bugzilla Mistmatch 2) an insane number of these messages are being sent each day. There must be a better way to handle this. There's no easy way to fix this generically as the script doesn't know whether the email address is good or not. ricky has changed this to send to nobod...@fedoraproject.org so that we stop getting bounces from bkonrath. -Toshio signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Handling Undeliverable mail messages
On 08/02/2009 12:43 AM, Brennan Ashton wrote:
This might be slightly off the topic, but I think it relates to the
reported issue in the bounced email. I have been noticing that when I
run this script:
from bugzilla import Bugzilla
from fedora.client import AccountSystem
url = 'https://bugzilla.redhat.com/xmlrpc.cgi'
fasUsername = #replace with real values
fasPassword = #replace with real values
bz = Bugzilla(url=url)
fas = AccountSystem(username=fasUsername,password=fasPassword)
emails = [elem['bugzilla_email'] for elem in
fas.people_by_groupname('triagers')]
triagers = []
for email in emails:
try:
name =
triagers.append(bz._proxy.User.get({'names':[email],'include_fields':['real_name']}))
except:
print email + not found
That somehow some people have bug privileges in FAS and in there BZ
account but the two can no longer be connected.
This isn't supposed to happen but the coupling between FAS and bugzilla
is loose enough that I can see where a bug could let it happen. There's
logic in FAS to add a user to a special table, bugzilla_queue if they
belong to the fedorabugs group and their email address changes. It's
supposed to remove the fedora_contrib permissions from the old email and
add them to the new one. There could be a breakdown either in adding to
the bugzilla_queue table or in the cron job that processes that table
(export_bugzilla).
Note that at one time triagers were manually added to fedora_bugs. This
isn't a remnant of that, is it?
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RFR: Hosting for AutoQA test hardware
Ticket filed at https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1579 == Project Sponsor == * '''Name''': James Laska * '''Fedora Account Name''': jlaska * '''Group''': Fedora QA Admin Group * '''Infrastructure Sponsor''': Mike McGrath and Jesse Keating == Secondary Contact info == * '''Name''': Will Woods * '''Fedora Account Name''': wwoods * '''Group''': Fedora QA Admin Group == Project Info == * '''Project Name''': AutoQA * '''Target Audience''': Consumers of Fedora rawhide interested in automated daily test result presentation * '''Expiration/Delivery Date (required)''': 2009-09-10 * '''Description/Summary''': Test hardware for AutoQA project * '''Project plan (Detailed)''': See https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/milestone/israwhidebroken.com * '''Goals''': The first major milestone is to provide public review of daily rawhide test results intended to satisfy the question: ''Is rawhide broken?'' To satisfy this, we are using an autotest server along with bare metal test client systems. == Specific resources needed == * Server - Virt system with access to mysql database and the following packages installed: * autotest, autoqa, Django * Clients - Bare metal hardware intended to run tests scheduled by autotest Server. * Existing hardware to be shipped to fedora-infrastructure * 2 x 1U HP Proliant DL360 * Requirements for hardware: * Network power support needed * Remote console needed (iLO available on systems) == Additional Info (Optional) == * In the process of securing 2 additional rackable server systems to deliver to infrastructure. '''Planned''' specs: * Form factor: 1U or 2U * CPU: At ''least'' dual quad-core * Memory: At ''least'' 16Gib * Disk: 2 250G disks signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Purged 2 tapes
I purged two tapes so that we had some 'room' on the backups The tapes were the 2 oldest (10 days ago). -- Stephen J Smoogen. Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp. Or what's a heaven for? -- Robert Browning ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Purged 2 tapes
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Stephen John Smoogensmo...@gmail.com wrote: I purged two tapes so that we had some 'room' on the backups The tapes were the 2 oldest (10 days ago). MediaID 74 and 84 that is. MediaID 82 is listed as Recycling which seems to mean BAD :). Does anyone happen to know how to say the last job of X was bad, please purge any tapes that were associated with this job but no others. /mnt/koji is often spanning multiple tapes so when it fails it's hard to say all of this data isn't that useful anyway, please delete it and re-use it -Mike Stephen J Smoogen. Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp. Or what's a heaven for? -- Robert Browning -- Stephen J Smoogen. Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp. Or what's a heaven for? -- Robert Browning ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
enable CONFIG_IMA
Just noticed that the F12 kernel have CONFIG_IMA turned off: # CONFIG_IMA is not set I'd like to see: CONFIG_IMA=y CONFIG_IMA_MEASURE_PCR_IDX=10 CONFIG_IMA_AUDIT=y CONFIG_IMA_LSM_RULES=y This should ONLY be enabled for 2.6.31 kernels as before my patches in 2.6.31 there were a couple of normal user trigger-able security issues with IMA. Without configuration on the boot line or configuration after boot of the ima infrastructure there is no impact to building this piece of code outside of the fact that it builds CONFIG_TCG_TPM and CONFIG_TCG_TIS in and will not allow them to be built as modules. This may cause some consternation on users of the latest lenovo thinkpads who have to patch those modules to get them to work (TPM on latest lenovo notebooks only supports ACPI not PNP for device discovery), but seeing as how noone really uses the tpm anyway and hopefully it'll be fixed upstream this week I don't see that as a large problem -Eric ___ Fedora-kernel-list mailing list Fedora-kernel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-kernel-list
Re: cli guru needed
What I am doing is: installing an os (first fedora but gave up because of bugs then cent) in Virtualbox tweeking cpu settings. Getting it configured to run headless + amd geode processor + other things. then once it is ready I run VBoxManage internalcommands converttoraw .VirtualBox/HardDisks/cent.vdi cent.raw which converts the Vbox image to a raw image readable by dd. Then w/ dd i write it to the cf card. put the cf card in my embedded appliance and see if it works. I have been tweaking and reinstalling for the last day or two. I got cent working today on this board. http://www.pcengines.ch/alix2d2.htm I'm slightly surprised you can get the VM to match your hardware closely enough, but interesting nonetheless. With a 4G image it took about 45 min to convert to raw then write to cf card. Because I kept redoing it I was looking to shorten that conversion time. on current ubuntu if I just type VBoxManager i am given a list of option one of which is converttoraw. % VBoxManage |grep convert VBoxManage convertfromraw filename outputfile VBoxManage convertfromraw stdin outputfile bytes % So no converttoraw here, using VirtualBox-3.0.2_49928_fedora11-1.x86_64 sry wrong instructions /# VBoxManage internalcommands | grep convert converttoraw [-format fileformat] filename outputfile converthd [-srcformat VDI|VMDK|VHD|RAW] converts hard disk images between formats In vbox i ended up turning off all modern features in the cpu. Then anaconda would install the appropriate kernel. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Sorta OT - anyone replaced MSFT Sharepoint with any OSS products?
On 08/02/2009 08:07 PM, Thomas Cameron wrote: All - I have a friend who owns a small business and who uses Microsoft Office SharePoint Server (MOSS) 2007. As you might suspect, it's a car with the hood welded shut, and I hate it. I help him out with IT stuff and I've had to fight MOSS 2007 for some time. It is agonizingly painful, and it's a massive security risk as far as I'm concerned. I've heard that Alfresco can replace MOSS. Anyone got any experience with this kind of migration? Thanks Thomas Sharepoint is another MS 'embrace extend extinguish' effort. In this case the 'standard' is WEBDAV that they butchered. There are many really good WEBDAV based projects out there. Start at webdav.org. To illustrate, if you have a webdav enabled apache server available, you can use any modern version of MS Word to save or retrieve from it, using a complete URL in the file name. Happy hunting! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to gut %$##@ Firefox?
Tim: If you running on a computer with limited space, such as flash RAMs on those mini laptops, then the more space you can save, the better. 17 megs here, 10 megs there, it all adds up. And I have noticed that it's quicker to start Firefox when they're all disabled. Ed Greshko: If it is really true that start up is quicker with them disabled, and I have serious doubts about it, Try it and see. It certainly is here, on several computers. then the code to pick which *single* language pack is seriously broken. I wouldn't be surprised. It's just like another plug-in. Fire up Firefox with several plug-ins, and takes longer to start up. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: cli guru needed
On 08/02/2009 11:34 AM, Bazooka Joe wrote: Is there a way to combine these 2 commands to cut my time in half? VBoxManage internalcommands converttoraw file.vdi file.raw then I have to run dd if=file.raw of=/dev/sdb -thx I have set up literally hundreds of CF cards for embedded systems. My final approach was to give the VM the usb raw device as its disk drive and install directly to it. All I had to do 'postinstall' was run mkinitrd and add the ide and scsi drivers to the command line, so it would boot in literally anything supported by the kernel. I used the kvm VM for this because of its simplicity for me. YMMV. Pop in the CF card and watch it mount. Verify the drive id with df, then unmount it. This example assumes that the CF card was mounted as /dev/sdbX. # qemu-kvm -hda /dev/sdb -cdrom CentOS-5.2-x86_64-bin-DVD.iso -net nic -net user -m 1024 -kernel vmlinuz -initrd initrd.img -append text ks=http://10.1.10.197/ks/ks; For me, I can kickstart a small custom Fedora or Centos build in about 7 minutes, and pop it into an embedded device and boot it. Hope this points you in the right direction. Good luck! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
microsoft natural keyboard 4000 F10/Spell
I have a Microsoft Natural 4000 keyboard on this computer. If anyone is looking for a nice keyboard, I can recommend this one with one caveat: The space bar is not up to the standard of the rest of the keys -- everything else has a very nice feel but the space bar is stiff and bangs when you use it. If it wasn't for the space bar issue, this would be a perfect keyboard to type on. It does, however, have those horrible dual-function F-keys where the F-keys work normally (F1, F2, etc) when the F-lock key is on, but have different functions (Help, Undo, etc) when the F-lock key is off. I would like to reprogram these keys so F-lock state becomes irrelevant and I always have F1, F2 available. I don't need or want Help, Undo, etc. I figure the fix is to fire up xev, get the keycodes for each of the function keys when F-lock is off, then write a little xmodmaprc file to reprogram those keys to act normal. Unfortunately, F10/Spell doesn't have a keycode according to xev. In fact, xev doesn't register any event at all when I press F10 with F-lock off. (Of course, I get keycode 76 when F-lock is on.) So it appears that F10/Spell isn't recognized by the keyboard driver (or something). All the rest of the F-keys are recognized and have a keycode when F-lock is off, with the single exception of F10/Spell. Am I just outta-luck here? -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to gut %$##@ Firefox?
Tim wrote: Tim: If you running on a computer with limited space, such as flash RAMs on those mini laptops, then the more space you can save, the better. 17 megs here, 10 megs there, it all adds up. And I have noticed that it's quicker to start Firefox when they're all disabled. Ed Greshko: If it is really true that start up is quicker with them disabled, and I have serious doubts about it, Try it and see. It certainly is here, on several computers. I did...just now Using a Nokia powered stop watch 2 systems...both fully updated F11, no added extensions, no added themes, both with the same 11 plugins. Both browsers configured to start with blank pages. I started firefox from a terminal window and stopped the timer when the full widow was up... I did it 10X each for all enabled and all disabled, total of 40 firefox starts. The average time for all enabled was 4.12 seconds. The average time for all disabled was 4.15 seconds. Full disclosure: To make things easier (since both systems are equivalent) I saved the .firefox directory from one system and copied it to the second system. I did the same after going through the list of language packs to disable them. Sono difference. Frankly, the start up time would need to be significantly different and consistently repeatable for me to notice...so it was a good exercise. then the code to pick which *single* language pack is seriously broken. I wouldn't be surprised. It's just like another plug-in. Fire up Firefox with several plug-ins, and takes longer to start up. I don't think it is quite the same as another plugin. A simple decision is being made to decide if a single jar file is to be loaded or not. Anyway, my tests indicate absolutely no difference in start up times...and I think I've taken sufficient steps to ensure both systems under test were equal. -- WYSIWYG: What You See Is What You Get. mei-mei.gres...@greshko.com http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=cCSz_koUhSg signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: cli guru needed
I have set up literally hundreds of CF cards for embedded systems. My final approach was to give the VM the usb raw device as its disk drive and install directly to it. All I had to do 'postinstall' was run mkinitrd and add the ide and scsi drivers to the command line, so it would boot in literally anything supported by the kernel. I used the kvm VM for this because of its simplicity for me. YMMV. Pop in the CF card and watch it mount. Verify the drive id with df, then unmount it. This example assumes that the CF card was mounted as /dev/sdbX. # qemu-kvm -hda /dev/sdb -cdrom CentOS-5.2-x86_64-bin-DVD.iso -net nic -net user -m 1024 -kernel vmlinuz -initrd initrd.img -append text ks=http://10.1.10.197/ks/ks; For me, I can kickstart a small custom Fedora or Centos build in about 7 minutes, and pop it into an embedded device and boot it. Phil, very interesting. What do you do to minimize writes to the cf card? Or is it not that big of a prob? I have turned off swap. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problem with .gvfs or .gvfs* in Fedora 11
Steven F. LeBrun wrote: First, Emacs froze when I tried to list my home directory, then ls -a froze from command line. Through trial and error, it appears that there is a file, directory, or special file in my home directory that begins with .gvfs. Any attempts to list the contents of the directory that should include .gvfs* fails and locks up the program that issued the command; emacs, ls -a in bash shell, etc. The close icon in the upper right hand corner of the frame will cause a pop-dialog to appear that allows the program to be force quit. Any ideas on how to resolve this problem? Can I safely do a rm -rf .gvfs* or will that delete files that my system needs? The command ls -ad .gvfs* also locks up which leads me to suspect that .gvfs is a special file, such as a device, instead of a directory. It should just be a directory, but it's used as a mount point by gvfs-fuse-daemon so it has special magic properties. Several people have complained about it, the most common problem being that backup tasks run by root can see that the directory exists but when they try to access it the get permission denied. This confuses them and may cause the backup to fail. The .gvfs directory isn't essential to the functioning of GNOME. GNOME applications that use gvfs do so through an API, not the directory. It's provided as a 'convenience' for non-GNOME applications. It's possible to prevent gvfs-fuse-daemon from running and thus taking over ~/.gvfs. This is only partially documented and it took me a while to work out how to do it in a way that won't be broken by future updates. Create the file /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/00-gvfs-disable-fuse.sh with the follwing contents: GVFS_DISABLE_FUSE=1 export GVFS_DISABLE_FUSE Log out and log in again. ~/.gvfs should then be an ordinary directory. Ron -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problem: CUPS re-writing printers.conf
On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 23:37 +0400, Hiisi wrote: I really would like to see it. I have some kind of problem sharing USB printer connected to F11 machine in my home network. Please, give us the instruction! I think I mention this in response to more or less every problem relating to printing on this mailing list, but here it goes again: System-Administration-Printing, then Help-Troubleshoot. or, if you see a dialog telling you your print job has stopped, click 'Diagnose'. Tim. */ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problem: CUPS re-writing printers.conf
On 03/08/09 09:30, Tim Waugh wrote: I think I mention this in response to more or less every problem relating to printing on this mailing list, but here it goes again: System-Administration-Printing, then Help-Troubleshoot. or, if you see a dialog telling you your print job has stopped, click 'Diagnose'. Tim. */ Maybe it needs to be wiki-fied -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to gut %$##@ Firefox?
On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 14:44 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: Anyway, my tests indicate absolutely no difference in start up times...and I think I've taken sufficient steps to ensure both systems under test were equal. Did you make sure that Firefox wasn't held in memory between your tests? -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to gut %$##@ Firefox?
Tim wrote: On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 14:44 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: Anyway, my tests indicate absolutely no difference in start up times...and I think I've taken sufficient steps to ensure both systems under test were equal. Did you make sure that Firefox wasn't held in memory between your tests? Yes And there was also no statistical difference when firefox was started after a full restart of the system. -- Knocked, you weren't in. -- Opportunity mei-mei.gres...@greshko.com http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=cCSz_koUhSg signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F11: Unable to print to HP LaserJet 4250
Dear all, Every time I try to print to an HP LaserJet 4250 printer, the result is the following: * CUPS says the job has been successfully printed (e.g., status completed) * instead, the printer does not print anything, it blocks and shows a Service Error message; the only way to restore is to power it off and on. Note: With F10 the printer worked perfectly. Moreover, if I try to print to another HP printer (HP LaserJet 8000) I have NO problem. Here below are some details: PRINTER DETAILS: Description: HP LaserJet 4250 Driver: HP LaserJet 4250 Postscript (recommended) (grayscale, 2-sided printing) Connection: socket://###.###.###.###:9100 Defaults: job-sheets=none, none media=iso_a4_210x297mm sides=two-sided-short-edge SYSTEM DETAILS: Dell Latitude D830 Linux feedback 2.6.29.6-213.fc11.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jul 7 21:02:57 EDT 2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux Any help is very very appreciated. Thank you very much!! Cheers, -- Marco -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Sorta OT - anyone replaced MSFT Sharepoint with any OSS products?
On Sun, 2 Aug 2009, Craig White wrote: On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 21:07 -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote: All - I have a friend who owns a small business and who uses Microsoft Office SharePoint Server (MOSS) 2007. As you might suspect, it's a car with the hood welded shut, and I hate it. I help him out with IT stuff and I've had to fight MOSS 2007 for some time. It is agonizingly painful, and it's a massive security risk as far as I'm concerned. I've heard that Alfresco can replace MOSS. Anyone got any experience with this kind of migration? I have set up Alfresco but minimal experience with Sharepoint. Alfresco is pretty cool but I don't know about feature for feature comparisons...perhaps you can get that kind of thing from Alfresco's web site. there's a new kid in town -- nuxeo: http://nuxeo.org and http://nuxeo.com. fully open source. i installed it recently on f11 just so a friend could look at it: http://www.crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/Nuxeo i didn't get much further than just the installation and firing it up to verify that it worked, so you might want to poke around and see if has what you need. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday Kernel Newbie Corner column @ linux.com: http://cli.gs/WG6WYX -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: The ideal mail client?
Please create a new thread for this changed topic. -- Erik. On 03/08/09 00:34, Tim wrote: On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 09:03 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Does anyone in the Real World actually think of themselves as using a media player? Perhaps they consider playing video and playing music to be two different things. Now there's a thought ... I tend to think of a media player as one that can play anything you throw at it. They're often not the best option for playing specific files, though. While mplayer is good for looking at some MPEG or FLV that you've just downloaded, it's awful for playing through your music collection. XMMS or Audacity would be my preference for my music collection, they're small, relatively simple, and have a playlist feature that does its job well. RhythmBox is too convoluted. It's a big app, CPU intensive, and struggles with a large music library. The search feature's nice, but the other problems put me off it. It's playlist handling sucks. Totem seems like an experimental app that hasn't been finished. Like when you see someone try to make their own Winamp clone, and give up with only implementing a third of the features. I think it was adding the gstreamer-ffmpeg package that finally got it to play some of the common restricted file formats we have to cope with. But it's still a pig to use. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Sorta OT - anyone replaced MSFT Sharepoint with any OSS products?
On 03/08/09 04:07, Thomas Cameron wrote: All - I have a friend who owns a small business and who uses Microsoft Office SharePoint Server (MOSS) 2007. As you might suspect, it's a car with the hood welded shut, and I hate it. I help him out with IT stuff and I've had to fight MOSS 2007 for some time. It is agonizingly painful, and it's a massive security risk as far as I'm concerned. I've heard that Alfresco can replace MOSS. Anyone got any experience with this kind of migration? Thanks Thomas I have done this once, this is a situation you will want to avoid at all cost and not one you want to do twice. Anyway, Alfresco has a module called vti, which provides sharepoint compatibility, so that the client doesn't know it is really talking to Alfresco. To setup this envorinment you can use my tutorial, it is a quick setup overview to replace MS SBS (including sharepoint) http://www.toshaan.be/publications/MLS2009-CentOS_Small_Enterprise_Server_Installation_and_Configuration.pdf It is quite easy and straight forward, this should be the same for Fedora, unless you want to recompile from source -- Toshaan toshli...@gmail.com - http://www.toshaan.be -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: The ideal mail client?
On 08/03/2009 04:39 PM, Erik P. Olsen wrote: Please create a new thread for this changed topic. whats going on here? mail client .. totem.xmms why this kind of mixture ??? please dont hijack threads -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: The ideal mail client?
The ideal male client should be female :D -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problem with .gvfs or .gvfs* in Fedora 11 [Solved]
On 08/03/2009 04:15 AM, Ron Yorston wrote: Steven F. LeBrun wrote: First, Emacs froze when I tried to list my home directory, then ls -a froze from command line. Through trial and error, it appears that there is a file, directory, or special file in my home directory that begins with .gvfs. Any attempts to list the contents of the directory that should include .gvfs* fails and locks up the program that issued the command; emacs, ls -a in bash shell, etc. The close icon in the upper right hand corner of the frame will cause a pop-dialog to appear that allows the program to be force quit. Any ideas on how to resolve this problem? Can I safely do a rm -rf .gvfs* or will that delete files that my system needs? The command ls -ad .gvfs* also locks up which leads me to suspect that .gvfs is a special file, such as a device, instead of a directory. It should just be a directory, but it's used as a mount point by gvfs-fuse-daemon so it has special magic properties. Several people have complained about it, the most common problem being that backup tasks run by root can see that the directory exists but when they try to access it the get permission denied. This confuses them and may cause the backup to fail. The .gvfs directory isn't essential to the functioning of GNOME. GNOME applications that use gvfs do so through an API, not the directory. It's provided as a 'convenience' for non-GNOME applications. It's possible to prevent gvfs-fuse-daemon from running and thus taking over ~/.gvfs. This is only partially documented and it took me a while to work out how to do it in a way that won't be broken by future updates. Create the file /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/00-gvfs-disable-fuse.sh with the follwing contents: GVFS_DISABLE_FUSE=1 export GVFS_DISABLE_FUSE Log out and log in again. ~/.gvfs should then be an ordinary directory. Ron Thanks, adding the 00-gvfs-disable-fuse.sh script worked. It allowed me to delete my ~/.gvfs directory. After deleting the file, I removed the script and rebooted and a new .gvfs was created without breaking ls -a. -- Steven F. LeBrun Quote: /The objection to fairy stories is that they tell children there are dragons. But children have always known there are dragons. Fairy stories tell children that dragons can be killed./ -- G.K. Chesterton -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Speaking of language support...
When I install fedora, the final group of packages in the installation customization is language support. I never select any additional languages in there. Despite that, as we see in another thread, firefox has a gazillion languages anyway, my font selection menus are cluttered with thousands of fonts supporting glyphs I can't recognize, my /usr/share/locale/ directory is filled with millions of entries, etc. Which leads to the question: What the heck does the language support group in anaconda actually install? For a system with no additional languages installed on it, I sure seem to have an awful lot of different language related stuff on my system. (And fonts are the most irritating - I wish apps came with better font selection interfaces that could filter out things for languages I'm not looking for so I could maybe see the thing I am looking for in the smaller haystack left over :-). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Speaking of language support...
Tom Horsley wrote: Despite that, as we see in another thread, firefox has a gazillion languages anyway, my font selection menus are cluttered with thousands of fonts supporting glyphs I can't recognize, my /usr/share/locale/ directory is filled with millions of entries, etc. Which leads to the question: What the heck does the language support group in anaconda actually install? For a system with no additional languages installed on it, I sure seem to have an awful lot of different I think it will install the user interface in that selected language. I for example like very much my interface to be in English, but be able to see correctly Japanese, Chinese and Finnish web pages. For that I need the fonts. I don't need the user interface pack. What's wrong with you people? Is it so dangerous to be influenced with foreing language on operating system which started on Finland where people speak language which has maybe 6million people speaking it worldwide? I understand need to cut down packages when installing to small space (Like really limited netboot) But most of the time it really doesn't matter and makes system more usables for us who need to be able to see world outside of english speaking world. -vpk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: microsoft natural keyboard 4000 F10/Spell
On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 00:28:33 -0600 Frank Cox thea...@sasktel.net wrote: So it appears that F10/Spell isn't recognized by the keyboard driver (or something). All the rest of the F-keys are recognized and have a keycode when F-lock is off, with the single exception of F10/Spell. Am I just outta-luck here? A long time ago I used a console app that would return the keycode when a key was typed. I can't remember the name of it but it might still exist. That would give you a more direct path to the keys, and thus might find the F10 key code. It sounds like X is filtering that key for some other purpose, though, so that might not help in X. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: Unable to print to HP LaserJet 4250
On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 12:40 +0200, Marco Guazzone wrote: Note: With F10 the printer worked perfectly. Can you send print jobs to that printer from other operating systems currently, so that we know the printer itself is not acting up? Perhaps you could use a Fedora 10 Live CD to see if Fedora 10 still prints correctly to that printer? I'm not sure which application you are printing from, but often you can print to a file -- try doing that from the Fedora 10 Live CD, then printing that file from Fedora 11. Does it matter if you change the connection type from 'socket' to something else, if there are other options you can try for that printer? Can you print anything at all to that printer? Does the problem only occur for particular documents, or for everything? Tim. */ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Speaking of language support...
Tom Horsley wrote: On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 16:22:42 +0300 Veli-Pekka Kestilä wrote: What's wrong with you people? I don't think it is dangerous, I just wonder what the heck the anaconda installer is asking about languages for when it seems to install a gazillion language related things anyway. It is setting the default language. The user has the option of changing it for his/her login. I am not sure if it changes the language the logs are in - I have never checked. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to gut %$##@ Firefox?
On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 12:38 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: [...] The ability to disable a given language pack is so that a user could, if they wanted, to display the menus in English. FWIW, I could see this being useful in my house. I could temporarily disable Chinese to make changes to my wife's preferences without having to ask her ... What does this say? :-) So, the only people the bug of failing to preserve settings would affect would be those who always want their menus in US English even though they are running with their LANG set to something else. That's quite illuminating Ed, thanks for taking the trouble to investigate. If indeed that is the only effect, perhaps the whole issue would go away if the disable individual language packs dialogue were replaced by a Use English for menus preference option. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: cli guru needed
On 08/03/2009 01:07 AM, Bazooka Joe wrote: I have set up literally hundreds of CF cards for embedded systems. My final approach was to give the VM the usb raw device as its disk drive and install directly to it. All I had to do 'postinstall' was run mkinitrd and add the ide and scsi drivers to the command line, so it would boot in literally anything supported by the kernel. I used the kvm VM for this because of its simplicity for me. YMMV. Pop in the CF card and watch it mount. Verify the drive id with df, then unmount it. This example assumes that the CF card was mounted as /dev/sdbX. # qemu-kvm -hda /dev/sdb -cdrom CentOS-5.2-x86_64-bin-DVD.iso -net nic -net user -m 1024 -kernel vmlinuz -initrd initrd.img -append text ks=http://10.1.10.197/ks/ks; For me, I can kickstart a small custom Fedora or Centos build in about 7 minutes, and pop it into an embedded device and boot it. Phil, very interesting. What do you do to minimize writes to the cf card? Or is it not that big of a prob? I have turned off swap. I have cards in the field that have been running now for three years with no errors, with a swap partition. I have tested cards by running an intensive database (11disk/i/o per second) for over a week, with no disk errors. Current CF cards are fine for this stuff, but can be made to last even longer by doing a livecd to the CF. It depends upon expected work loads. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: The ideal mail client?
On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 22:54 +0530, Jatin K wrote: On 08/03/2009 04:39 PM, Erik P. Olsen wrote: Please create a new thread for this changed topic. whats going on here? mail client .. totem.xmms why this kind of mixture ??? please dont hijack threads It wasn't really a hijacking. The thread just wandered off-topic. Having said that, we should stop here unless anyone wants to start another thread. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: Unable to print to HP LaserJet 4250
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Tim Waughtwa...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 12:40 +0200, Marco Guazzone wrote: Note: With F10 the printer worked perfectly. Can you send print jobs to that printer from other operating systems currently, so that we know the printer itself is not acting up? Yes this printer is at a University Department. We have Mac, Win XP/Vista/2003, Fedora 6, 7 and 10. Perhaps you could use a Fedora 10 Live CD to see if Fedora 10 still prints correctly to that printer? I've asked to 2 collegues which has installed a F10. Yes they are able to print. I've also compared the PPD installed on a F10 with my own PPD and they are almost identical (except for some default settings) I'm not sure which application you are printing from, but often you can evince The doc I'm trying to print is available at: http://enterprise.amd.com/Downloads/Ziff_Power_and_Cooling_IT_.pdf WAIT!!... I've just tried to print the Test Page from system-config-printer and it works. But, then when I tried to print the doc above (from evince) it failed. Then I've tried with Acrobat Reader 9.1.3 and it works! So, I think is an evince problem, do you? -- Marco -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
swig-1.3.39-1.fc10 install problems
Has anyone else noticed that swig-1.3.39-1.fc10 has dependency problems? I am seeing... Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit adobe-linux-i386 | 951 B 00:00 fedora | 2.8 kB 00:02 rpmfusion-free | 2.7 kB 00:00 rpmfusion-free-updates | 2.8 kB 00:00 rpmfusion-nonfree| 2.7 kB 00:00 rpmfusion-nonfree-updates| 2.8 kB 00:00 updates | 3.4 kB 00:00 Setting up Update Process Resolving Dependencies -- Running transaction check --- Package swig.i386 0:1.3.39-1.fc10 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: perl(example) for package: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.i386 -- Processing Dependency: perl(the) for package: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.i386 -- Processing Dependency: perl(it) for package: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.i386 -- Processing Dependency: perl(argv) for package: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.i386 -- Running transaction check --- Package jython-demo.i386 0:2.2.1-0.1.Release_2_2_1.1.2.fc10 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: jython = 2.2.1-0.1.Release_2_2_1.1.2.fc10 for package: jython-demo-2.2.1-0.1.Release_2_2_1.1.2.fc10.i386 --- Package swig.i386 0:1.3.39-1.fc10 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: perl(the) for package: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.i386 -- Processing Dependency: perl(it) for package: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.i386 -- Processing Dependency: perl(argv) for package: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.i386 -- Running transaction check --- Package jython.i386 0:2.2.1-0.1.Release_2_2_1.1.2.fc10 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: libreadline-java = 0.8.0-16 for package: jython-2.2.1-0.1.Release_2_2_1.1.2.fc10.i386 -- Processing Dependency: oro for package: jython-2.2.1-0.1.Release_2_2_1.1.2.fc10.i386 -- Processing Dependency: mysql-connector-java for package: jython-2.2.1-0.1.Release_2_2_1.1.2.fc10.i386 --- Package swig.i386 0:1.3.39-1.fc10 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: perl(the) for package: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.i386 -- Processing Dependency: perl(it) for package: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.i386 -- Processing Dependency: perl(argv) for package: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.i386 -- Running transaction check --- Package jakarta-oro.i386 0:2.0.8-4.2.fc10 set to be updated --- Package libreadline-java.i386 0:0.8.0-22.fc10 set to be updated --- Package mysql-connector-java.i386 1:3.1.12-6.fc10 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: jta = 1.0 for package: 1:mysql-connector-java-3.1.12-6.fc10.i386 -- Processing Dependency: log4j for package: 1:mysql-connector-java-3.1.12-6.fc10.i386 --- Package swig.i386 0:1.3.39-1.fc10 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: perl(the) for package: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.i386 -- Processing Dependency: perl(it) for package: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.i386 -- Processing Dependency: perl(argv) for package: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.i386 -- Running transaction check --- Package geronimo-specs-compat.i386 0:1.0-2.M2.fc10 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: geronimo-specs = 1.0-2.M2.fc10 for package: geronimo-specs-compat-1.0-2.M2.fc10.i386 --- Package log4j.i386 0:1.2.14-4.3.fc10 set to be updated --- Package swig.i386 0:1.3.39-1.fc10 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: perl(the) for package: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.i386 -- Processing Dependency: perl(it) for package: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.i386 -- Processing Dependency: perl(argv) for package: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.i386 -- Running transaction check --- Package geronimo-specs.i386 0:1.0-2.M2.fc10 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: mx4j = 2.0.1 for package: geronimo-specs-1.0-2.M2.fc10.i386 --- Package swig.i386 0:1.3.39-1.fc10 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: perl(the) for package: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.i386 -- Processing Dependency: perl(it) for package: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.i386 -- Processing Dependency: perl(argv) for package: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.i386 -- Running transaction check --- Package mx4j.i386 1:3.0.1-7.8.fc10 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: jakarta-commons-logging = 1.0.1 for package: 1:mx4j-3.0.1-7.8.fc10.i386 -- Processing Dependency: javamail = 1.2-5jpp for package: 1:mx4j-3.0.1-7.8.fc10.i386 -- Processing Dependency: bcel = 5.0 for package: 1:mx4j-3.0.1-7.8.fc10.i386 -- Processing Dependency: axis = 1.1 for package: 1:mx4j-3.0.1-7.8.fc10.i386 -- Processing Dependency: jaf for package: 1:mx4j-3.0.1-7.8.fc10.i386 --- Package swig.i386 0:1.3.39-1.fc10 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: perl(the) for package: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.i386 -- Processing Dependency: perl(it) for package: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.i386 -- Processing Dependency: perl(argv) for package: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10.i386 -- Running transaction check --- Package axis.i386 0:1.2.1-4.1.fc10 set to be updated -- Processing Dependency: jakarta-commons-httpclient for package: axis-1.2.1-4.1.fc10.i386 -- Processing Dependency: wsdl4j for package:
Audio CD problem solution tested and it works
In bugzilla # 513495 Aram Agajanian poses a solution for the Audio CD problem and it works. First you get udev-141-4.fc11.src.rpm from the link below. http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/udev/141/4.fc11/src/udev-141-4.fc11.src.rpm Get the spec file with rpm -i udev-141-4.fc11.src.rpm Remove patch4 from the spec file by commenting it out. Do a rpmbuild -bp then a rpmbuild -bb Install the files created (not the devel files) udev, udev-static libudev0 and libvolume_id Reboot and the Audio CD icon is back. -- === Anything anybody can say about America is true. -- Emmett Grogan === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to gut %$##@ Firefox?
On 03/08/09 06:38, Ed Greshko wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: If there's no downside to having them, why is there a dialogue for disabling them? If the dialogue is required, a) why is it so damn stupid and b) why aren't the settings preserved across updates, as they are for every other configuration option Firefox has? There's really no excuse for this. Then is that the real bug/problem. Why not file a bugzilla that addresses language pack settings not preserved across updates? I still can't figure out any benefit to disable thembut seems some have determined it has value. Wonder what it is... I decided to spend a little time doing a bit of research. First of all, if you are running en_US in your environment then disabling languages pack does absolutely nothing since en_US is the default for firefox. If you are running, for example, th_TH (Thai) then th.jar will be loaded and the menus of firefox will be in Thai. If you disable the Thai language pack...then the jar file will not be loaded and the menus will be in US English. This doesn't seem to be correct. I have two language packs enabled, Danish and UK English. If I disable English and enable Danish, nothing is changed. If I disable both language packs same story, ff always comes up in English. But if I remove all language packs as suggested ff wont start at all. In fact I don't really know what a language pack is supposed to do. So, in summary, the language pack only take up 17MB of disk spacenever get loaded into memory (and only one gets loaded) unless you are running in a non en_US environment. The ability to disable a given language pack is so that a user could, if they wanted, to display the menus in English. FWIW, I could see this being useful in my house. I could temporarily disable Chinese to make changes to my wife's preferences without having to ask her ... What does this say? :-) Interesting! As I mentioned above I can't do that (I assume Danish and Chinese behave similarly in this respect). So, the only people the bug of failing to preserve settings would affect would be those who always want their menus in US English even though they are running with their LANG set to something else. -- Erik. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: swig-1.3.39-1.fc10 install problems
Jack Howarth wrote: Has anyone else noticed that swig-1.3.39-1.fc10 has dependency problems? I am seeing... Yes, it was noted in the comments of the package update¹, had a bug filed², and an updated package built which is awaiting the next push³. Why the initial update was pushed directly to the stable updates, I don't know. This is the sort of thing that would be caught in updates-testing (at least until the push process can perform such sanity checks automatically). ¹ https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F10/FEDORA-2009-8145 ² https://bugzilla.redhat.com/514983 ³ https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/swig-1.3.39-3.fc10 -- ToddOpenPGP - KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ Despite the high cost of living, it remains a popular item. pgps3UxiYbJpU.pgp Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Speaking of language support...
Tom Horsley wrote: On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 16:22:42 +0300 Veli-Pekka Kestilä wrote: What's wrong with you people? I don't think it is dangerous, I just wonder what the heck the anaconda installer is asking about languages for when it seems to install a gazillion language related things anyway. It seems kind of like not checking the software development group, but then finding eclipse, g++, fortran, and gnat on my system :-). Well, you do get for example python without asking it, so it kind of happens for programmin tools too, maybe there is some more examples of getting dev stuff without asking. I remember that atleast perl came by default in RH(x) distributions before. :-) And I don't think those are really slimmed down versions for just running stuff as people have better things to do than making multiple packages for same program. I think it's better for software and linux especially if language support get's better. And for that you sometimes need to have things like fonts which have more letters than just 7-bit ASCII . It's actually really annoying that still I end up finding websites, and software which doesn't work well with anything that is more diverse than 7-bit ASCII, for example I have many times had to try to get around stupid name checkers which don't allow '-' and 'ä' in peoples or places names and so on. So it's really annoying when someone wants less language compability by default. -vpk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
domain name registry with mail hops
Any recommendations for a domain name registry service that will also forward e-mail? Speedy and reliable forwarding is a virtue. Thanks, Mike. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Speaking of language support...
On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 18:04 +0300, Veli-Pekka Kestilä wrote: It's actually really annoying that still I end up finding websites, and software which doesn't work well with anything that is more diverse than 7-bit ASCII, for example I have many times had to try to get around stupid name checkers which don't allow '-' and 'ä' in peoples or places names and so on. So it's really annoying when someone wants less language compability by default. Amen to that, but I have problems because of my surname (O'Callaghan) and it's not even caused by language issues. Some web forms (mostly Microsoft-based it seems) interpret the ' as a string terminator and break horribly. It's an anti-Irish consiracy :-) poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: Unable to print to HP LaserJet 4250
On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 16:46 +0200, Marco Guazzone wrote: The doc I'm trying to print is available at: http://enterprise.amd.com/Downloads/Ziff_Power_and_Cooling_IT_.pdf WAIT!!... I've just tried to print the Test Page from system-config-printer and it works. But, then when I tried to print the doc above (from evince) it failed. Then I've tried with Acrobat Reader 9.1.3 and it works! So, I think is an evince problem, do you? The way to find out is to print the PDF directly from the command line, without involving evince. Just 'lp -d destination file.pdf'. Tim. */ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F10 SElinux issues
Ever since I upgraded from F9 to F10 when F9 went EOL I've been having lots of SElinux warnings. Here's one. I get at seemingly random times, ie not when I log in. Aug 3 09:06:50 steve setroubleshoot: SELinux is preventing polkit-read-aut (polkit_auth_t) write to /var/log/gdm/:0-greeter.log (xserver_log_t). For complete SELinux messages. run sealert -l a4a0ec72-1ae8-46af-a27c-441b4a5f1cdb setroubleshoot suggests restorecon -v '/var/log/gdm/:0-greeter.log' # ls -lZ /var/log/gdm/:0-greeter.log -rw-r--r-- gdm gdm system_u:object_r:xserver_log_t:s0 /var/log/gdm/:0-greeter.log # restorecon -v /var/log/gdm/:0-greeter.log ]# ls -lZ /var/log/gdm/:0-greeter.log -rw-r--r-- gdm gdm system_u:object_r:xserver_log_t:s0 /var/log/gdm/:0-greeter.log ie no change # tail /var/log/gdm/:0-greeter.log Warning: No symbols defined for I228 (keycode 228) Warning: No symbols defined for I230 (keycode 230) Warning: No symbols defined for I248 (keycode 248) Warning: No symbols defined for I249 (keycode 249) Warning: No symbols defined for I250 (keycode 250) Warning: No symbols defined for I251 (keycode 251) Warning: No symbols defined for I252 (keycode 252) Warning: No symbols defined for I253 (keycode 253) Window manager warning: Buggy client sent a _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW message with a timestamp of 0 for 0x1200022 (Login Wind) Window manager warning: meta_window_activate called by a pager with a 0 timestamp; the pager needs to be fixed. This computer is on a 2 machine home network, the other machine being a Vista laptop and I have them connected via Samba. Is some client trying to login from the laptop? # rpm -qa | grep selinux selinux-policy-3.5.13-67.fc10.noarch libselinux-devel-2.0.78-1.fc10.i386 selinux-policy-targeted-3.5.13-67.fc10.noarch libselinux-2.0.78-1.fc10.i386 libselinux-utils-2.0.78-1.fc10.i386 libselinux-python-2.0.78-1.fc10.i386 Any suggestions? Thanks, Steve -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to gut %$##@ Firefox?
Erik P. Olsen wrote: On 03/08/09 06:38, Ed Greshko wrote: First of all, if you are running en_US in your environment then disabling languages pack does absolutely nothing since en_US is the default for firefox. If you are running, for example, th_TH (Thai) then th.jar will be loaded and the menus of firefox will be in Thai. If you disable the Thai language pack...then the jar file will not be loaded and the menus will be in US English. This doesn't seem to be correct. I have two language packs enabled, Danish and UK English. If I disable English and enable Danish, nothing is changed. If I disable both language packs same story, ff always comes up in English. But if I remove all language packs as suggested ff wont start at all. I believe you are missing one important step. In order to have Danish menus, and for the language packs to have any effect, you need to log out and log back in the Danish environment. Meaning your environment variable LANG needs to be set to da_DK.UTF-8. I get the feeling that yours is always set to en_GB.UTF-8. In fact I don't really know what a language pack is supposed to do. So, in summary, the language pack only take up 17MB of disk spacenever get loaded into memory (and only one gets loaded) unless you are running in a non en_US environment. The ability to disable a given language pack is so that a user could, if they wanted, to display the menus in English. FWIW, I could see this being useful in my house. I could temporarily disable Chinese to make changes to my wife's preferences without having to ask her ... What does this say? :-) Interesting! As I mentioned above I can't do that (I assume Danish and Chinese behave similarly in this respect). Indeed they do I just did it with Danish. As I said, make you you logout/login and you change you language setting at the login screen -- This is a NO-FRILLS flight -- hold th' CANADIAN BACON!! mei-mei.gres...@greshko.com http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=cCSz_koUhSg signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: Unable to print to HP LaserJet 4250
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Tim Waughtwa...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 16:46 +0200, Marco Guazzone wrote: The doc I'm trying to print is available at: http://enterprise.amd.com/Downloads/Ziff_Power_and_Cooling_IT_.pdf WAIT!!... I've just tried to print the Test Page from system-config-printer and it works. But, then when I tried to print the doc above (from evince) it failed. Then I've tried with Acrobat Reader 9.1.3 and it works! So, I think is an evince problem, do you? The way to find out is to print the PDF directly from the command line, without involving evince. Just 'lp -d destination file.pdf'. Tried: $ lp -d UPO-HP_lj_4250-NearFax ~/Ziff_Power_and_Cooling_IT_.pdf It worked!! Should I submit a bug for evince in Fedora bug tracking system? Thanks!! -- Marco -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
AbobeReader
Hello, Is their a version of AdobeReader for x86_64 ? Thank. -- --- == Patrick DUPRÉ | | Department of Chemistry| |Phone: (44)-(0)-1904-434384 The University of York | |Fax: (44)-(0)-1904-432516 Heslington | | York YO10 5DD United Kingdom | |email: pd...@york.ac.uk ==-- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
conflicted file in update this morning?
Came to work this morning and updater icon told me that updates were available on my F11 system. Pretty routine, I told it to go ahead and do the update. What wasn't routine was the subsequent error dialog complaining of Local file conflict between packages: Test Transaction Errors: file /usr/share/X11/locale/el_GR.UTF-8/Compose from install of libX11-1.2.2-1.fc11.x86_64 conflicts with file from package libX11-1.2.1-2.fc11.i586 file /usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose from install of libX11-1.2.2-1.fc11.x86_64 conflicts with file from package libX11-1.2.1-2.fc11.i586 file /usr/share/X11/locale/fi_FI.UTF-8/Compose from install of libX11-1.2.2-1.fc11.x86_64 conflicts with file from package libX11-1.2.1-2.fc11.i586 file /usr/share/X11/locale/iso8859-1/Compose from install of libX11-1.2.2-1.fc11.x86_64 conflicts with file from package libX11-1.2.1-2.fc11.i586 file /usr/share/X11/locale/iso8859-15/Compose from install of libX11-1.2.2-1.fc11.x86_64 conflicts with file from package libX11-1.2.1-2.fc11.i586 file /usr/share/X11/locale/iso8859-9/Compose from install of libX11-1.2.2-1.fc11.x86_64 conflicts with file from package libX11-1.2.1-2.fc11.i586 file /usr/share/X11/locale/iso8859-9e/Compose from install of libX11-1.2.2-1.fc11.x86_64 conflicts wit... The 32 and 64 bit packages have coexisted on my system for a long time. I don't even recall why I had the i586 package installed at all, but if I were to hazard a guess, I'd say that VMWare probably required the 32-bit libs. Anyway, today I can't update. Can anything be done? Or should this get bugzilla'd? And if so, against what? -Alan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Upcoming IRC Classroom Sessions for the week of 2009-08-03
Greetings. This is a regular posting I am going to try and make every monday, letting people know about the upcoming IRC classroom sessions that are scheduled. From the Classroom page at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom we currently have the following Classes scheduled: 2009-08-05 01:00 UTC An intro to rsync -- Jon Stanley 2009-08-05 02:00 UTC Introduction to Koji (build system) and Bodhi (updates system) in Fedora infrastructure (End user perspective) -- Rahul Sundaram Last week there was a class with a tour of the Xfce desktop: 2009-07-30 01:00 UTC A tour of the Xfce desktop -- Kevin Fenzi You can find a summary of the class and a full log at: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/meetbot/fedora-classroom/2009-07-30/fedora-classroom.2009-07-30-01.00.html We have several other classes in planning stages now, hopefully to be announced soon. Please see the above page for more information on signing up to teach a class, providing feedback to the classroom mailing list or other general information. Hope to see you all there! kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: AbobeReader
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:48:20 +0100 (BST) Patrick Dupre wrote: Is their a version of AdobeReader for x86_64 ? The i486 one works fine on x86_64. If you install adobe's yum repo, you can then yum install the appropriate version of AdobeReader and you will automagically find and install all the other 32 bit libraries it needs. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: conflicted file in update this morning?
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:04:32 -0700 Alan Evans wrote: Anyway, today I can't update. Can anything be done? Or should this get bugzilla'd? And if so, against what? Usually if you just wait a few days the 32 and 64 bit repos get back in sync. You can update with the --skip-broken option to get all the non-conflicting stuff installed. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: Unable to print to HP LaserJet 4250
On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 17:49 +0200, Marco Guazzone wrote: Should I submit a bug for evince in Fedora bug tracking system? Yes please. Tim. */ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10 SElinux issues
On 03/08/09 15:50, Steve Blackwell wrote: Ever since I upgraded from F9 to F10 when F9 went EOL I've been having lots of SElinux warnings. Here's one. I get at seemingly random times, ie not when I log in. su touch ./autorelabel;reboot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: conflicted file in update this morning?
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:04:32 -0700 Alan Evans wrote: Anyway, today I can't update. Can anything be done? Or should this get bugzilla'd? And if so, against what? Usually if you just wait a few days the 32 and 64 bit repos get back in sync. You can update with the --skip-broken option to get all the non-conflicting stuff installed. Thanks. It would be handy to have a Skip Broken button on the error dialog in the updater... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to gut %$##@ Firefox?
On 08/03/2009 11:46 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: Erik P. Olsen wrote: ... As I said, make you you logout/login and you change you language setting at the login screen Or at least start ff with a different setting: $ LANG=es_ES.UTF-8 firefox Gives me ff menus /in espanol/. Make sure you start with a new ff process, else you'll simply get a new window from the currently running process. Joe -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: The ideal mail client?
On Saturday 01 August 2009 23:39:43 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Even outside the MSE Twilight Zone, plenty of people seem to use Evo's calendaring, task management etc. features. Some of these are coming to TB via plugins, but they aren't really there yet AFAIK. Sorry to jump in on the subject, but I just need to ask what happened to the good old do one thing and do it well policy? I would rather like to have a mail client to view mail, a calender app to do calendaring (whatever that means), a task manager to manage tasks, etc. Why does all of that need to be put into one single app like Evolution (or Thunderbird, or whatever)? Is it just to make life easy for Windows converts coming from MSE Twilight Zone, or is there some legitimate Linux-native reason for such trend? Best, :-) Marko -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: conflicted file in update this morning?
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:04:32 -0700 Alan Evans wrote: Anyway, today I can't update. Can anything be done? Or should this get bugzilla'd? And if so, against what? Usually if you just wait a few days the 32 and 64 bit repos get back in sync. You can update with the --skip-broken option to get all the non-conflicting stuff installed. Curious. The updater icon claims that there are 18 updates available (mouse hovor popup). The updater package review dialog claims that there are 17 available. The missing file being the i586 libX11 update. Executing yum update in a root shell (leaving skip-broken out for now) lists all updates including the 32-bit libX11. (All the packages besides that are show in bold font -- what does that mean?) Anyway, cli yum updated everything with no complaint. But I'm wondering why PackageKit was conflicted about the number of available updates. (And I'm wondering what the bold/not-bold thing in yum means.) -Alan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: conflicted file in update this morning?
On 03/08/09 17:44, Alan Evans wrote: Anyway, cli yum updated everything with no complaint. But I'm wondering why PackageKit was conflicted about the number of available updates. (And I'm wondering what the bold/not-bold thing in yum means.) -Alan iirc bold=going to be installed normal=updating -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Speaking of language support...
Veli-Pekka Kestilä wrote: What's wrong with you people? Is it so dangerous to be influenced with foreing language on operating system which started on Finland where people speak language which has maybe 6million people speaking it worldwide? I speak three languages and I find it irritating to have to install a gazillion other languages that I don't use, and especially irritating to have to install by default all of those fonts not used by my languages. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Speaking of language support...
On 03/08/09 17:48, Petrus de Calguarium wrote: Veli-Pekka Kestilä wrote: What's wrong with you people? Is it so dangerous to be influenced with foreing language on operating system which started on Finland where people speak language which has maybe 6million people speaking it worldwide? I speak three languages and I find it irritating to have to install a gazillion other languages that I don't use, and especially irritating to have to install by default all of those fonts not used by my languages. yumex will help remove language fonts -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: cli guru needed
On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 20:03 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 17:19 -0700, Les wrote: On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 14:38 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote: On Sun, 2 Aug 2009, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 12:54 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Bazooka Joe wrote: Is there a way to combine these 2 commands to cut my time in half? VBoxManage internalcommands converttoraw file.vdi file.raw then I have to run dd if=file.raw of=/dev/sdb -thx You can can command on the same command in several ways. It depends on what you put between the command. ; - always run the next command. - run the second command only if the first command is successful. || - run the second command if the first one fails. How is this going to reduce his total time? The commands are still running sequentially. i'd bump up the blocksize of that dd command. IIRC, the default blocksize for dd is 512 bytes -- painfully small and resulting in lots and lots of little writes. crank up the blocksize significantly and that second command should speed up noticeably. rday if the vbox command can follow fully qualified paths, you should be able to simply say converttoraw file.vdi /pathtosda/file.raw However, going between disks may be faster or slower, depending on the way the command buffers the data, and/or handles disk I/O. Personally I think some fundamental experimentation is in order. There is a final issue in that some video files are protected in such a way that copying them is prohibited. I don't know or care about the details as I never do anything with video. However be aware that some driver software includes checks for pirating video and audio. If your driver is setup to prohibit copying according to the DMCA, it will not work as expected. AFAIK the OP is trying to convert a VB virtual disk to a raw format. Perhaps you misread vdi for dvi. I'm not sure it's even possible to do what he's asking, but it has nothing to do with video. poc Sorry, and you are correct, I did read vdi for dvi. Regards, Les H -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Speaking of language support...
В Пнд, 03/08/2009 в 09:03 -0400, Tom Horsley пишет: When I install fedora, the final group of packages in the installation customization is language support. I never select any additional languages in there. Despite that, as we see in another thread, firefox has a gazillion languages anyway, my font selection menus are cluttered with thousands of fonts supporting glyphs I can't recognize, my /usr/share/locale/ directory is filled with millions of entries, etc. Which leads to the question: What the heck does the language support group in anaconda actually install? For a system with no additional languages installed on it, I sure seem to have an awful lot of different language related stuff on my system. (And fonts are the most irritating - I wish apps came with better font selection interfaces that could filter out things for languages I'm not looking for so I could maybe see the thing I am looking for in the smaller haystack left over :-). I like all the languages support in Fedora because I can see a website in whatever language without having to google forums or to read manuals and find suitable packages before that. :) -- Misha Shnurapet °v° I ♥ Linux /(_)\ Download the free operating system here: ^ ^ http://fedoraproject.org signature.asc Description: Эта часть сообщения подписана цифровой подписью -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Speaking of language support...
Veli-Pekka Kestilä wrote: I for example like very much my interface to be in English, but be able to see correctly Japanese, Chinese and Finnish web pages. For that I need the fonts. You do raise an important point here: yes, foreign language pages should be displayed correctly, and not just with those empty boxes. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: The ideal mail client?
On Sunday 02 August 2009 03:07:18 Tom Horsley wrote: On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 18:45:08 -0700 (PDT) Antonio Olivares wrote: I can live without VLC and xine but mplayer has a special place on my machines :) Me too. I've never found anything (except encrypted .wmv files) than mplayer can't play (or at least the 32 bit mplayer can't play with all the illegal codecs in the world downloaded from the internet and stashed in /usr/lib/codecs :-). Its the only program I've ever been able to coerce to on-the-fly encode audio streams and send them out the SP/DIF output to my receiver via optical connection. Its the only program I've ever been able to coerce to send the already encoded audio from a DVD directly to my SP/DIF. Its got 47 gazillion options, some combination is bound to do what you want! (all you have to do is find it :-). +1! Best, :-) Marko -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: The ideal mail client?
Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 01 August 2009 23:39:43 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Even outside the MSE Twilight Zone, plenty of people seem to use Evo's calendaring, task management etc. features. Some of these are coming to TB via plugins, but they aren't really there yet AFAIK. Sorry to jump in on the subject, but I just need to ask what happened to the good old do one thing and do it well policy? Amen, brother! Steve -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: Unable to print to HP LaserJet 4250
On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 16:46 +0200, Marco Guazzone wrote: So, I think is an evince problem, do you? Another thing worth trying actually: try to print from another application which uses the GTK+ print dialog, such as gedit. The problem may be in the 'gtk2' package instead of 'evince'. Tim. */ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
