date:20090826


On 08/26/2009 02:13 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:

On 08/26/2009 01:46 PM, Andrew Overholt wrote:

* Daniel B. Thurman  [2009-08-26 16:45]:

have to figure out if I can downgrade from v1.6x to v1.4x,
which may not be possible or is it?

I don't know.  If it's important, I suggest asking the subversion
maintainer.

Glad you got things straightened around,

Andrew


Ok, here is what I did:

1) yum remove eclipse-subclipse eclipse-svnkit
2) Added http://subclipse.tigris.org/update_1.4.x to update list,
unchecked v1.6x tigris site
3) Commited the update, and got:

Cannot complete the request.  See the details.
Unsatisfied dependency: 
[org.tigris.subversion.subclipse.graph.feature.feature.group 1.0.7] 
requiredCapability: org.eclipse.equinox.p2.iu/org.eclipse.gef/3.2.0
Unsatisfied dependency: 
[org.tigris.subversion.subclipse.graph.feature.feature.group 1.0.7] 
requiredCapability: org.eclipse.equinox.p2.iu/org.eclipse.draw2d/3.2.0
Unsatisfied dependency: 
[org.tigris.subversion.subclipse.graph.feature.feature.group 1.0.7] 
requiredCapability: org.eclipse.equinox.p2.iu/org.eclipse.draw2d/3.2.0
Unsatisfied dependency: 
[org.tigris.subversion.subclipse.graph.feature.feature.group 1.0.7] 
requiredCapability: org.eclipse.equinox.p2.iu/org.eclipse.gef/3.2.0


so what can I do to remove the above conflicts in order
to resolve the commit?  Looks to me that it is the GEF,
DRAW components that are the problems and does not
appear that it is possible to downgrade these?

Looks to me that I am entering into 'uncharted waters' here!
Perhaps it's just not worth it, I dunno.

BTW: I forgot to add that when subclipse v1.6x tries to access
 a 1.4x repository - it "hangs", so there probably should
 be code to handle this case.  I also note that in F11,
 clicking the X (terminate) button on the window does
 not work - so that may mean the terminate handler does
 not work?

Dan


Ok, after painstaking work, I finally have gotten F11-eclipse
to work with v1.4x repositories.

The steps:

1) Remove subclipse v1.6x if installed w/:
yum remove eclipse-subclipse svnkit

2) Make sure that most of all of the eclipse-* packages
are installed - but not all.  If you install all of the
eclipse-* packages you may run into problems as
for me, eclipse would not launch.  I don't know which
eclipse package causes this.  I avoided eclipse-nls*,
eclipse-epic, eclipse-findbugs-contrib, eclipse-valgrind

3) Startup eclipse, then add: http://subclipse.tigris.org/update_1.4.x
to the software install list, then select all items under
the v1.4x category.

There is one snag left for me: I cannot get Eclipse's Ganymede
to launch - it hangs, nothing I have tried fixes this.  F11-Eclipse &
Galileo works fine.

Note1: If you reinstall F11-Eclipse after breaking it, make darn
sure that you blow away /usr/share/eclipse - there are "stuff there"
that somehow prevents F11-Eclipse from starting up - perhaps
old & corrupted files left behind after a F11-Eclipse corruption?
Also - you may be advised to first use Add & Remove package
installer - choose everything related to Eclipse there, then use
the above yum install for the rest of the packages.  This works
for me but it may because I yum install *eclipse*, not sure.

Note2: the very odd things about Ganymede was, at first it worked,
then after fuddling with F11-Eclipse and screwing it up, Ganymede
stopped working.

Cheers,
Dan

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Re: Anyone using Skype on FC11 ?

2009-08-26 Thread Elliott Chapin

I had just wondered if the repo URL you showed us might list  something 
more recent than mentioned on their download page. The repo page did not 
permit me direct access.


On 08/26/2009 09:22 PM, jack craig wrote:

On 08/26/2009 04:13 PM, Elliott Chapin wrote:

Are you actually running an FC11 version?



no, i downloaded the fc7 (latest) from their site.

i am not aware of a more current option.





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Re: Anyone using Skype on FC11 ?

2009-08-26 Thread jack craig


On 08/26/2009 04:13 PM, Elliott Chapin wrote:
Are you actually running an FC11 version? 



no, i downloaded the fc7 (latest) from their site.

i am not aware of a  more current option.



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Re: DHCP configuration question


Philip A. Prindeville wrote:

Philip A. Prindeville wrote:

Rick Stevens wrote:
  

Philip A. Prindeville wrote:


Philip A. Prindeville wrote:
  

Ok, dumb question, but given that my
/var/lib/dhclient/dhclient-eth0.lease info shows that I'm clearly
getting a hostname and domain name, why does "hostname" return
localhost.localdomain (and "domainname" returns "(none)")?

What do I need to enable to make this work?

Thanks,

-Philip

  


Asked and answered:

chkconfig NetworkManager off
  

Huh?  All that does is disable NetworkManager.  It won't affect the
hostname unless the dhclient script changes it for you or you have a
hostname in /etc/sysconfig/network and run the old network startup code
("chkconfig network on").


The old network code is on by default.


I missed that earlier.  Having both NM and the old code enabled 
simultaneously used to be a spectacularly bad thing to do.  They did not

play well with each other.  I don't know if that's true anymore, but I'd
either enable NM and disable classic or vice versa, but don't have them
both enabled.


Also, have a look at where need_hostname gets called in
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-post ...

-Philip





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Re: Where is pulseaudio started?


Ok Steven, let me do a google search on "pulseaudio home page", follow the 
first link which reads www.pulseaudio.org, click on the "documentation" link, 
scroll down to "KDE" and read http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#KDE 
for you here. It says:


KDE 4 uses Phonon as the main audio interface. The Xine backend of Phonon 
should eventually use PulseAudio automatically, but at the time of writing the 
pulse plugin for Xine is too unreliable, so it's disabled by default. While 
waiting for that to get better, Phonon uses Alsa. Therefore, to get Phonon to 
use PulseAudio, you have to edit your ~/.asoundrc or /etc/asound.conf.


So when your favorite KDE app tries to play some sound, it talks to Phonon, 
which either uses xine backend to talk to pulseaudio directly, or uses alsa. 
Now let me scroll back to the top of the page and read 
http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#ALSAApplications for you:


If the PulseAudio plugin for alsalibs is installed all applications with 
support for the ALSA API should be able to access a PulseAudio server. You 
need version 1.0.12 or newer of the ALSA packages for the PulseAudio plugin to 
be included.

To activate the driver edit /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc and add:

pcm.pulse {
type pulse
}

ctl.pulse {
type pulse
}

Now you you can access the PulseAudio server under the virtual ALSA device 
pulse:

% aplay -Dpulse foo.wav
% amixer -Dpulse

If you want to make the PulseAudio driver the default, use something like this 
in the ALSA configuration files:

pcm.!default {
type pulse
}
ctl.!default {
type pulse
}


Now let me take a look at /etc/asound.conf and ~/.asoundrc instead of you, and  
find that this is precisely how a default Fedora system is configured.

So how does it work? Open your favorite sound app, and ask it to play some 
music. If it is a typical KDE app, it will utilize Phonon, which redirects to 
ALSA, where pulseaudio plugin for alsa takes over, checks if the pulseaudio 
binary is already running and transfers audio handling to it. If it is not 
running, the plugin launches /etc/pulse/default.pa, which is an equivalent of 
an userland "init script" for pulseaudio. It launches the actual binary. Look 
at the first line:

#!/usr/bin/pulseaudio -nF

This is where it actually gets executed. (I hope you are familiar with the 
"sha-bang" syntax.)

Now, once executed, pulseaudio starts receiving signals to be played from all 
apps that try to use it natively, or try to use ALSA or ESD or Phonon or 
whatever. All these signals get mixed and sent to ALSA sound driver which 
talks to actual hardware to play the sound.

So in a nutshell, whatever your app tries to use as a sound interface, it gets 
eventually rerouted to pulseaudio, which gets executed if it is not running 
already. If it doesn't get rerouted to pulseaudio, something is broken 
(typically the app itself), and you don't get any sound from that app by 
default. File a bug against it.

> >> Can pulseaudio be simply shut OFF?

I don't think so, at least not so easily. As you can see above, it is way too 
much integrated in the system. There is no single place where it is invoked 
and where it could be "shut off". You need to uninstall it altogether and let 
every app find it's own way to fallback to alsa.

> Unfortunately, I am running KDE-4.2.4 and if there's a way to shut the
> little stinker off, I'd be grateful to know how.

AFAICS, KDE is using Xine backend by now, which talks to pulseaudio natively. 
I don't think that you can find an option to shut it down and use alsa. But do 
take a look at systemsettings -> Multimedia, maybe there you can set 
preferences the way you like. Here I talk about the latest KDE 4.3, you should 
probably yum update.

> I have no idea what it is that pulseaudio is supposed to actually do that
> I'm supposed to like about it. I used to have sound. I still have sound.

Let me read the very first sentence from http://www.pulseaudio.org/  for you:


PulseAudio is a sound server for POSIX and Win32 systems. A sound server is 
basically a proxy for your sound applications. It allows you to do advanced 
operations on your sound data as it passes between your application and your 
hardware. Things like transferring the audio to a different machine, changing 
the sample format or channel count and mixing several sounds into one are 
easily achieved using a sound server.


Then let me click on "About pulseaudio" link and read 
http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/AboutPulseAudio#Details for you:


PulseAudio is a networked sound server, similar in theory to the Enlightened 
Sound Daemon (EsounD). PulseAudio is however much more advanced and has 
numerous features.

A sound server can serve many functions:

* Software mixing of multiple audio streams, bypassing any restrictions 
the hardware has.
* Network transparency, allowing an application to play back or record 
audio on a different machine than the one it is running on.
* Sound API

Re: DHCP configuration question

Philip A. Prindeville wrote:
> Rick Stevens wrote:
>   
>> Philip A. Prindeville wrote:
>> 
>>> Philip A. Prindeville wrote:
>>>   
 Ok, dumb question, but given that my
 /var/lib/dhclient/dhclient-eth0.lease info shows that I'm clearly
 getting a hostname and domain name, why does "hostname" return
 localhost.localdomain (and "domainname" returns "(none)")?

 What do I need to enable to make this work?

 Thanks,

 -Philip

   
 
>>> Asked and answered:
>>>
>>> chkconfig NetworkManager off
>>>   
>> Huh?  All that does is disable NetworkManager.  It won't affect the
>> hostname unless the dhclient script changes it for you or you have a
>> hostname in /etc/sysconfig/network and run the old network startup code
>> ("chkconfig network on").
>> 
>
> The old network code is on by default.
>
> -Philip
>
>   

Also, have a look at where need_hostname gets called in
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-post ...

-Philip


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PS3 Slim "does not support" Linux. Can it be worked-around?

2009-08-26 Thread Fernando Cassia

I was very excited when I heard about the new low price of the PS3
"Slim" console.
However that didn't last long as Sony has indicated that unlike
previous versions, installing Linux on the PS3 is "not supported".
Why? they didn't say.

So... there go my hopes of getting a PS3 console to watch Blu-Ray
movies *and* install Fedora on it
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PlayStation#Status

Questions:
-Is this a firmware issue? Did they just remove the option to boot a
secondary OS from the menus? Can this be worked around?
-Can the PS3 "Slim" be made to run an older firmware release from the
"fat" previous version that does include such option?
-What if you take the HD from a "fat" PS3 with Linux and plug it into
the PS3 Slim?

If anyone on this list is experienced with running Fedora on the PS3,
I'd like to know more about these issues. TIA...

FC

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Has anyone had a bugzilla sound bug fixed ?

2009-08-26 Thread Linuxguy123

Has anyone submitted a sound related bug to bugzilla in recent history
and seen it get resolved, ie fixed ?  If so, what component was it ?
(ALSA, Pulse Audio, audio device driver, etc.) 

Thanks

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Re: Pulseaudio config problem.

On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 01:29:24 +0200
"Erik P. Olsen"  wrote:
> 
> Yes, that works but audacity is the only application on my system that

I know that xmms (called audio player) in the menu has the ability to 
select this also.  I haven't looked at other applications, but I assume
they might have some configuration option for this too (after all this is
linux).  

The asound.conf you posted for Mikkel is using pulse as the default
device, so anything pointing to default (most sound applications) will
try to use pulse.  They will then play through the card 0.  There is a
way to script around this, but better to set them explicitly to the
CS46 if you can.  Do a search on default alsa .asoundrc and you will
find solutions if you want to go this route.

> allows this hw:1,0 specification. I assume it bypasses PulseAudio.
> Could it be that PulseAudio is only able to talk to card 0?

That is exactly what the data you posted says.  And that is why I think
you shouldn't turn card 0 off.  Let pulse use that card for whatever the
system wants.  It is silent because there are no speakers, but it will
keep the system happy.  It wanted to play a sound and thinks it did.
For some reason, on your system, pulse doesn't discover the CS46 even
though alsa identifies it correctly and loads the correct driver.

Problem solved.

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Re: raid stripe size vs performance

2009-08-26 Thread Aldo Foot

On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Phill wrote:
> I'm rebuilding a RHEL 5 server used primarily for building code. It has perc 
> 6i controller and I'm installing 6 15K sas drives. The plan is to setup a 
> raid 10 configuration for improved performance. Does anyone know if I can 
> significantly increase or degrade my performance by selecting a larger stripe 
> size? The default is 64k and I have read in a performance report that a 512k 
> size may be more desirable for Linux systems. Thanks for any replies.
__

Each setup is particular to each environment. It depends
on the hardware and what it's used for.
The benchmarking utility bonie++ may give you insights
on your setup.

http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++

~af

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Re: Removing one drive from a RAID 1 setup?

2009-08-26 Thread Adam Hough

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote:
> People,
>
>
> Mick wrote:
>>
>> --- On Tue, 8/25/09, Bruno Wolff III  wrote:
>>>
>>>  Philip Rhoades 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > If I remove this drive, is it straightforward to
>>> continue using the
>>> > remaining drive (sdd) with it's normal ext3 partition
>>> and the data still
>>> > intact?
>>>
>>> It might mess up grub. But otherwise it should work.
>>>
>>
>> I kind of did this.
>>
>> I installed F11 to a raid-1 two sata drives.
>> I could not get it to boot, it wanted a BIOS ID.
>> My BIOS (MSI K9A2) lets me boot from raid, but it does not show up in the
>> first
>> screen.
>> The one with IDE/SATA drives shown.
>>
>> Anyway I went into the BIOS and deleted the raid array.
>> When I tried to install F11 the drives were NOT detected by anaconda.
>>
>> It seems that there are "ghost" dm partitions on them.
>> Anaconda sees them and dies.
>>
>> I was able to install F10 and Mint, as well as XPx64, but not F11 or
>> F12-alpha.
>>
>> Apparently this is a known bug in anaconda.
>>
>> So you may be able to fix up your drive and boot it, you most likely will
>> not
>> be able to install to it.
>>
>> Mick M.
>
>
> Sorry, I should have made it clear sdc & sdd RAID 1 drives are mounted on
> /home, the MBR etc is on sda (/) - but all the extra info was
> interesting/useful anyway!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Phil.
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>

Is sda and sdb a mirror as well? or do you just care about  /home?

If sda and sdb and if /boot is a mirrorred across the two drives then
you need to in most cases hand edit grub so that it will boot from
both drives.

This is a very good right up on how to make a bootable mirrored pair
of drives: http://grub.enbug.org/MirroringRAID.

Also though I have not done a lot of benchmarking, you might want to
consider moving to MD RAID10 instead of RAID1 as i am assuming that
your are using the linux software raid.  The MD RAID10 has the
advantage of striping reads across the 2 drives, while RAID1 does its
read in parallel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-standard_RAID_levels#Linux_MD_RAID_10

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Re: DHCP configuration question

Rick Stevens wrote:
> Philip A. Prindeville wrote:
>> Philip A. Prindeville wrote:
>>> Ok, dumb question, but given that my
>>> /var/lib/dhclient/dhclient-eth0.lease info shows that I'm clearly
>>> getting a hostname and domain name, why does "hostname" return
>>> localhost.localdomain (and "domainname" returns "(none)")?
>>>
>>> What do I need to enable to make this work?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> -Philip
>>>
>>>   
>>
>> Asked and answered:
>>
>> chkconfig NetworkManager off
>
> Huh?  All that does is disable NetworkManager.  It won't affect the
> hostname unless the dhclient script changes it for you or you have a
> hostname in /etc/sysconfig/network and run the old network startup code
> ("chkconfig network on").

The old network code is on by default.

-Philip

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Re: raid stripe size vs performance

2009-08-26 Thread Adam Hough

Wikipedia has a decent write up of how the Linux MD RAID 10 works.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-standard_RAID_levels#Linux_MD_RAID_10

Linux MD RAID10 (RAID10) implements a general RAID driver that
defaults to a standard RAID 1+0 with four drives, but can have any
number of drives. MD RAID10 can run striped and mirrored with only two
drives with the f2 layout (mirroring with striped reads, normal Linux
software RAID 1 does not stripe reads, but can read in parallel).

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Dave Stevens wrote:
>
>> Which is fine for read-only use, while it may hurt your write. Also note
>> that many controllers use the term "raid-10" when they really mean "raid
>> 1+0" which isn't the same at all as Linux software raid-10.
>
> That's news to me Bill, and I'm thinking of setting up a F11 raid 10 system.
> Can you refer me to a source for your statement?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave
>
>>
>> > As always, "large" and "small" file sizes are subjective terms and
>> > there is no substitute for benchmarking your own particular case - and
>> > this is a hotly contested subject among Storage gurus!
>>
>> Hell, people can't even agree on what the terms mean, in some cases.
>>
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Re: [Solved, kinda]Nvidia driver problem

2009-08-26 Thread gilpel

gilpel wrote:

> (Maybe somebody at rpmfusion is keeping
> a low profile for supplying these as dependencies with akmod?)

There problem was not with akmod:

grep '185.18.31' /var/log/yum.log
Aug 06 14:34:22 Updated: xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs-185.18.31-1.fc11.x86_64
Aug 06 14:34:22 Updated: kmod-nvidia-185.18.31-1.fc11.x86_64
Aug 06 14:34:24 Updated: xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-185.18.31-1.fc11.x86_64
Aug 06 14:34:36 Installed:
kmod-nvidia-2.6.29.6-217.2.3.fc11.x86_64-185.18.31-1.fc11.x86_64

grep 'akmod' /var/log/yum.log
Aug 17 13:12:42 Installed: akmods-0.3.6-3.fc11.noarch
Aug 17 13:12:43 Installed: akmod-nvidia-185.18.14-1.fc11.x86_64
Aug 17 15:47:25 Erased: akmod-nvidia
Aug 17 23:01:51 Erased: akmods


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Re: Pulseaudio config problem.

2009-08-26 Thread Erik P. Olsen

On 26/08/09 00:51, stan wrote:
> No idea?  It should be turned off.  Run
> alsamixer -c 1
> and use the arrow keys to go to the entries that have IEC958 in them.
> Use 0 to turn them off, and down arrow to lower volumes if necessary.
> Do the same procedure with
> alsamixer -c 0

Done.

>> In the tab "Output Devices" I also see two areas, the first named
>> "Simultaneous output or internal Audio" and the next "internal
>> Audio". Which devices do they relate to?
> 
> The internal sound device, the one on the motherboard.

This is card 0 and the one I want to disable.

> 
> It doesn't sound like you need to disable the CS46 in pulse because it
> isn't seeing it anyway, though alsa is.  There is probably a bug there,
> but it suits your purposes.

CS46xx is card 1 and that's where the speakers are connected.

> 
> So after the above adjustments, if you use a sound application, say
> audacity, and go into Edit -> Preferences and change the output device
> to alsa hw:1,0, import a sound file, it should play.  Or do the
> equivalent with another sound application.  And aplay -D plughw:1,0
> some.wav should play sound.  If the CS46 card is connected to speakers
> or an amp or tuner (i.e. it has a way to actually *play* the sound).

Yes, that works but audacity is the only application on my system that
allows this hw:1,0 specification. I assume it bypasses PulseAudio. Could it
be that PulseAudio is only able to talk to card 0?

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Re: raid stripe size vs performance

2009-08-26 Thread Dave Stevens


> Which is fine for read-only use, while it may hurt your write. Also note
> that many controllers use the term "raid-10" when they really mean "raid
> 1+0" which isn't the same at all as Linux software raid-10.

That's news to me Bill, and I'm thinking of setting up a F11 raid 10 system. 
Can you refer me to a source for your statement?

Thanks,

Dave

>
> > As always, "large" and "small" file sizes are subjective terms and
> > there is no substitute for benchmarking your own particular case - and
> > this is a hotly contested subject among Storage gurus!
>
> Hell, people can't even agree on what the terms mean, in some cases.
>
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Re: Pulseaudio config problem.

2009-08-26 Thread Erik P. Olsen

On 26/08/09 18:56, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> Erik P. Olsen wrote:
>> On 25/08/09 03:20, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>>> Dumb question - what do you get when you run "aplay -l"?
>>  List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
> <[ SNIP ]>
> 
> That looks good. One other thing to check is the contents of
> /etc/asound.conf. I ran into a problem with this file once where it
> was pointing to the wrong device, messing up all sound.

My asound.conf is as follows, and I have no .asoundrc file:

#
# Place your global alsa-lib configuration here...
#

@hooks [
{
func load
files [
"/etc/alsa/pulse-default.conf"
]
errors false
}
]
pcm.pulse {
type pulse
}
ctl.pulse {
type pulse
}

Does this look correct?

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Re: Anyone using Skype on FC11 ?

2009-08-26 Thread Elliott Chapin


Are you actually running an FC11 version?

On 08/26/2009 05:10 PM, Joel Gomberg wrote:

On 08/26/2009 12:40 PM, Steven Stern wrote:

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On 08/26/2009 02:34 PM, jack craig wrote:

Hi folks,

After the base sw install, i am getting audio capture& audio playback
errors when i try to make a test call.

however, these are just icon level msgs; i am less clear how to see the
actual failure details.
besides /var/log/messages, is there any error log for Skype use?

tia, jackc...



I am. Installation info here:

http://www.sterndata.com/content/skype-fedora-linux


I read all the time that Skype won't work with pulseaudio, but it works
for me. I do, however, have alsa-plugins-pulseaudio-1.0.20-2.fc11.i586
installed. I don't have oss on my system, yet Skype works just fine. Go
figure. YMMV.






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Re: Removing one drive from a RAID 1 setup?

2009-08-26 Thread Philip Rhoades

People,

Mick wrote:

--- On Tue, 8/25/09, Bruno Wolff III  wrote:

  Philip Rhoades 
wrote:
>
> If I remove this drive, is it straightforward to
continue using the
> remaining drive (sdd) with it's normal ext3 partition
and the data still
> intact?

It might mess up grub. But otherwise it should work.

I kind of did this.

I installed F11 to a raid-1 two sata drives.
I could not get it to boot, it wanted a BIOS ID.
My BIOS (MSI K9A2) lets me boot from raid, but it does not show up in the first
screen.
The one with IDE/SATA drives shown.

Anyway I went into the BIOS and deleted the raid array.
When I tried to install F11 the drives were NOT detected by anaconda.

It seems that there are "ghost" dm partitions on them.
Anaconda sees them and dies.

I was able to install F10 and Mint, as well as XPx64, but not F11 or F12-alpha.

Apparently this is a known bug in anaconda.

So you may be able to fix up your drive and boot it, you most likely will not
be able to install to it.

Mick M.

Sorry, I should have made it clear sdc & sdd RAID 1 drives are mounted 
on /home, the MBR etc is on sda (/) - but all the extra info was 
interesting/useful anyway!

Thanks,

Phil.
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Re: MythTV vs php

2009-08-26 Thread Kevin J. Cummings

On 08/26/2009 06:34 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Greetings;
> 
> We have had a showstopper as far as yumex is concerned, for 3 or more days, 
> while trying to update our MythTV installs on 32 bit F10 installs.
> 
> The MythTV package series now offered needs a dependency called php-process.  
> Obviously there is no such package available, or wasn't a couple of hours 
> ago.
> 
> Has anyone an idea how this can be alleviated?
> 
> Thanks all.
> 

Where are you getting MythTV from?  ATRPMs or RPMFusion (or from source
code)?  I can find the RPM in the F11 Fedora repo, but it is not
installed on my FE only laptop (installed from ATRPMs).  And, like you,
it isn't found on my F10 systems, and it isn't needed for me on my BE.
All of my systems are up-to-date

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Re: Where is pulseaudio started?

2009-08-26 Thread Steven W. Orr

On 08/26/09 15:21, quoth Rick Stevens:
> Steven W. Orr wrote:
>> On 08/26/09 13:03, quoth Jonathan Ryshpan:
>>> On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 09:25 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
 stan wrote:
> If you are using the default Fedora setup, you have your own
> version of
> pulse started when you log in.  I notice that it also can be
> started by
> programs that need its services, and that seems to be gconf-helper.
 Isn't "autospawn" activated by default in /etc/pulse/client.conf?
 That means you can have pulseaudio started by who knows what.
>>> I don't think so.  On my system (Fedora-11 vanilla) autospawn is
>>> commented out.
>>>
>>> jon
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Ok. Why do you think it's commented out?
>>
>> I'm looking at my copy and the comments in the top of the file begin
>> with a
>> #sign but the config lines begin with a semi;colon. So right now I
>> have no
>> idea what's a comment and what's required syntax.
>>
>> Can pulseaudio be simply shut OFF? This thing really stinks.
> 
> It works for most people, Steven.  Some people (myself included) have
> had issues with it, but that doesn't mean it "really stinks."

You're right. I apologize. I'm sure that for some people it might smell like
roses. For some people it may be consuming huge amounts of disk space and
system resources and they might not even be aware of it. And yet this thing
that really stinks for me has been doing its thing for over 1.5 years
generating ~50M syslog entries per week.

Unfortunately, I am running KDE-4.2.4 and if there's a way to shut the little
stinker off, I'd be grateful to know how.

I'm not running a laptop. This is my personal home server. It's where I do all
my work and run public server stuff. email, web, sshd, etc.

I have no idea what it is that pulseaudio is supposed to actually do that I'm
supposed to like about it. I used to have sound. I still have sound. (Not
everyone can say that I guess.) But with the syslog thrashing at 50Meg/week
and the processes usually sitting at 10% of the cpu just from pulseaudio, I,
sincerely, would really like to shut the stinker off. I wish everyone else in
the world the very best and that if other people are not having problems then
they should continue to not have problems. No one has suggested anything to me
to help me fix it and now I'm asking if there's a way to shut the thing off.
rpm -ql was of no help. And when it comes to kde-4.2, I love it but it's not
all that intuitive a system when it comes to making mods.

Please find it in your hearts to dig into your wallets. All I ask is for
$30,000 to help me buy the DeLuxe Executive Version of PulseAudio The Gold
Edition. I promise that when the free version gets better I will re-enable it
and tell everyone how wonderful it is. Or please tell me how to shut it off.

Thanks. :-)

> 
> It's started in your session.  If you're using Gnome, go to
> 
> System->Preferences->Startup Applications
> 
> and scroll down the list.  You can uncheck the box next to "PulseAudio
> Sound System" to not have it start up, or delete it entirely.  There's
> undoubtedly a similar thing for KDE, but since I'm not a KDE user, I
> don't know where it is.  Someone else want to chime in?

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Re: headphone jack dosen't work on laptop on F11... any ideas?

2009-08-26 Thread David Lam

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:46 PM, stan  wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:13:49 -0700
> David Lam  wrote:
>
> > running 2.6.29.5-191.fc11.x86_64 on my hp pavillion laptop,  when I
> > plug in headphones I expect for the speakers to be muted and sound to
> > come in the headphones, but I find there isn't any affect-- namely,
> > sounds till comes from the speakers and no sound in the headphones
> > just as if I hadn't plugged them in, in the first place.
> >
> > anyone experience/fix something like this before?
>
> I see occasional messages on the alsa lists for this on various
> hardware, as well as occasional messages about patches fixing it for
> certain hardware.  It usually means that there is a configuration error
> in the driver.  You should run the alsa-info.sh script so you identify
>
> http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-driver.git;a=blob_plain;f=utils/alsa-info.sh
> your hardware correctly (or aplay -l which is easier) and then do a web
> search with your alsa driver, card, and headphone.  There are fixes
> going into the alsa drivers all the time so you might want to pick up
> the latest driver snapshot, compile it, and load the module for your
> card to see if it fixes the problem.
>
> If you don't find a fix and you have the programming chops, you could
> fix the driver and submit a patch.
>
> There used to be links to tarball snapshots by Takashi Iwai of the
> alsa packages on the alsa website, but I don't see them anymore.  There
> is a link to the git repository under developers and the latest stable
> release.
>
> http://alsa-project.org/
>
> nice nice... thanks for the tip
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MythTV vs php

2009-08-26 Thread Gene Heskett

Greetings;

We have had a showstopper as far as yumex is concerned, for 3 or more days, 
while trying to update our MythTV installs on 32 bit F10 installs.

The MythTV package series now offered needs a dependency called php-process.  
Obviously there is no such package available, or wasn't a couple of hours 
ago.

Has anyone an idea how this can be alleviated?

Thanks all.

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Re: DHCP configuration question


Philip A. Prindeville wrote:

Philip A. Prindeville wrote:

Ok, dumb question, but given that my
/var/lib/dhclient/dhclient-eth0.lease info shows that I'm clearly
getting a hostname and domain name, why does "hostname" return
localhost.localdomain (and "domainname" returns "(none)")?

What do I need to enable to make this work?

Thanks,

-Philip

  


Asked and answered:

chkconfig NetworkManager off


Huh?  All that does is disable NetworkManager.  It won't affect the
hostname unless the dhclient script changes it for you or you have a
hostname in /etc/sysconfig/network and run the old network startup code
("chkconfig network on").
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Re: DHCP configuration question


Philip A. Prindeville wrote:

Ok, dumb question, but given that my
/var/lib/dhclient/dhclient-eth0.lease info shows that I'm clearly
getting a hostname and domain name, why does "hostname" return
localhost.localdomain (and "domainname" returns "(none)")?

What do I need to enable to make this work?


Hostname will continue to return localhost.localdomain since, at the
time the hostname command was used in /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit, that's
what's in the /etc/sysconfig/network file on DHCP clients.

You'd need to change the dhclient script to extract the given host name
from the leases file and do a "hostname extracted-data" to change it.
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Re: F11: Fedora Eclipse: SVN fails to connect to any svn repository: Hangs.

2009-08-26 Thread Matthew Saltzman

On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 16:46 -0400, Andrew Overholt wrote:
> * Daniel B. Thurman  [2009-08-26 16:45]:
> > have to figure out if I can downgrade from v1.6x to v1.4x,
> > which may not be possible or is it?
> 
> I don't know.  If it's important, I suggest asking the subversion
> maintainer.

Was just at the Subversion Web site and noticed that subversion-1.4 is
no longer being maintained.

> 
> Glad you got things straightened around,
> 
> Andrew
> 
> 
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Re: yum update and windows missing title bar

On Wednesday 26 August 2009 21:28:57 you wrote:
> 2009/8/26 Marko Vojinovic 
>
> > Window manager failed? Maybe some the following could help:
> >
> > * log out and log back in
> > * killall plasma & plasma &&
> > * kwin --replace  (and look for any errors)
> > * read /var/log/messages for any info from kwin
> > * disable desktop effects
> > * reboot the machine (there were a lot of updates for KDE, maybe
> > something got
> > messed up wrt already running apps?)
> >
> > Are you maybe using some other window manager? Compiz? WindowMaker?
> > Something
> > else?
> >
> > HTH, :-)
> > Marko
>
> Yes it is compiz failing. It complains about missing Xgl.

Well then, it is a completely different issue. I assumed you were using kwin, 
since it is the default for KDE.

> My xorg.conf is given at the end of this mail.

I am used to starting compiz using the fusion-icon, which usually Just Works 
(I believe it automatically sets up all compiz command line switches 
appropriately for your particular video hardware). I never needed to configure 
xorg.conf manually (assuming I already had a 3D accelerated driver), so I 
cannot help you much if it doesn't work for you. AFAIK, there are good setup 
instructions on the compiz-fusion web site.

Also, if you want best compiz-fusion experience, I can also recommend emerald 
window decorator. Both work quite well under KDE.

Best, :-)
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Re: DHCP configuration question

Philip A. Prindeville wrote:
> Ok, dumb question, but given that my
> /var/lib/dhclient/dhclient-eth0.lease info shows that I'm clearly
> getting a hostname and domain name, why does "hostname" return
> localhost.localdomain (and "domainname" returns "(none)")?
>
> What do I need to enable to make this work?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Philip
>
>   

Asked and answered:

chkconfig NetworkManager off


that was anything but obvious...

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Re: [Solved, kinda]Nvidia driver problem

2009-08-26 Thread William Case

Hi gilpel

On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 00:07 +0500, gil...@altern.org wrote:
> Having already removed akmod-nvidia, I booted with kernel
> 2.6.29.6-217.2.3.fc11.x86_64, which was the only one still working and
> just did:
> 
> yum remove kmod-nvidia*
> 
> yum install kmod-nvidia
> 
> which took care of dependencies. So, not only was:
> 
> kmod-nvidia-2.6.29.6-217.2.3.fc11.x86_64.x86_64
>185.18.31-1.fc11
> 
> removed, but also:
> 
> xorg-x11-drv-nvidia.x86_64185.18.31-1.fc11
> xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs.x86_64   185.18.31-1.fc11
> 
> How those packages ever got to my system, I have no idea. I never enabled
> rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing. (Maybe somebody at rpmfusion is keeping
> a low profile for supplying these as dependencies with akmod?)
> 
See the description below

akmod is just a script(s).  It does not supply any dependencies.

akmod-nvidia-185-18.14 supplies or directs akmod to the files that are
needed for akmod to build an rpm that can be used by kmod for various
kernels as modules for the nvidia driver.

If you have akmod and akmod-185.18.14 installed I am sure that
2.6.29.6-217.2.7 and 2.6.29.6-217.2.3 will work.  The correct nvidia
modules will be automatically built when you first boot into those
kernels.  Whatever you think you may have done with akmod previously, it
is very unlikely that your problems will re-occur.

http://rpmfusion.org/Packaging/KernelModules/Akmods

Quick Overview

RPM Fusion/Livna distributes kernel-modules as kmod packages that
contain modules precompiled for the latest kernels released by Fedora.
That works fine for most people, but it doesn't work on systems with use
different kernel -- like a self-compiled kernel, an older Fedora kernel
or the quickly changing kernels from updates-testing/rawhide. 

[This includes new stable kernels for which RPMFusion has not yet built
and distributed a kmod-nvidia-kernel_number-driver_version.]

The kmods-srpms can easily be rebuilt for those kernels using rpmbuild
with a kmod-specific parameter that defines what kernel to build the
kmod for. 

But that requires some knowledge of how to build rpms; this is what the
script akmods tries to make easier for the end user, as it does all the
steps required to build a kmod.rpm for the running kernel from a
kmod-srpm.

But the user still needs to do something manually when he needs a kmod
for a newly installed kernel. This is what the akmodsd daemon is trying
to fix: it's a script normally started from init on bootup that checks
if all kmods are present. 

If a kmod is not found then akmods tries to rebuild kmod.srpms found in
a certain place in the filesystem; if that works it will install the
rebuilt kmod into the running kernel automatically.

What is akmod-nvidia?

akmod-nvidia provides the files required by the akmod system to build a
new kmod-nvidia package when the kernel module is found to be missing.
Akmods are completely compatible with "regular" kmods, and you can mix
the two if you'd like.

> Now, kernel 2.6.29.6-217.2.8 works, kernel 2.6.29.6-217.2.7 which never
> worked and I considered destroyed by my experiments with akmod, still
> doesn't work, and kernel 2.6.29.6-217.2.3, which always worked flawlessly,
> now doesn't work. Maybe, I should have booted to kernel 2.6.29.6-217.2.8
> and worked from a terminal for the remove/install operations, but I still
> find it strange that the .3 kernel, which always worked fine with the
> 185.18.14-3.fc11 Nvidia modules, doesn't work anymore with the same
> modules.
> 

Modules for each kernel have to be built.

> Though the Nvidia drivers now seem to work very well with the .8 kernel, I
> have those error messages:
> 

Use 'locate' to ensure that all 185.18.31 files are gone.  They have all
been removed on my system, then install akmod and
akmod-nvidia-185.18.14. and reboot for each kernel.

> boot message:
> 
> Enabling the nvidia driver: /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions: line 513 :1298
> Segmentation fault "$@"
> 
> 
> dmesg | grep nvidia
> 
> nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel.
> nvidia :01:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 18
> nvidia :01:00.0: setting latency timer to 64
> nvidia-config-d[1300]: segfault at 7f5ac400 ip 003e7dc799a4 sp
> 7b6f0448 error 4 in libc-2.10.1.so[3e7dc0+164000]
> 
> Note that I got the boot message, that otherwise only flashes by, with the
> icon at the bottom of the login screen. It would have been impossible to
> read this message if the boot process had not terminated at the login
> screen. 

> The "I" for interactive set-up has absolutely no effect and Shift
> pg-up doesn't get you to the previous boot messages screen. Those are not
> always present in dmesg or /var/log/messages and might prove helpful for
> troubleshooting.
> 

I have the same problem.  I would hope someone on the list can give us a
fix or an alternate way to step through the boot process.

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Re: Broken downloads of FC11-x86_64 and other disturbances

2009-08-26 Thread li...@funkster1

Tony Nelson wrote:

On 09-08-26 12:23:39, li...@funkster1 wrote:
 ...

If you move your "best" download to the torrent download destination, 
bittorrent will just copy the parts that aren't correct.  It will 
usually be much faster than starting from scratch.

Unfortunately, I already wiped all the bad downloads. So I have to start
from scratch, but it's OK, I have a fast flatrate line.

Mikkel wrote:
> From what I have seen, it depends on a combination of the drive and
> the media you are using. The same media that gives problems in one
> model drive will work fine in another drive. Then again, sometimes
> different batches of disks of the same brand act differently. So
> sticking with the same brand does not always work.
>
> Mikkel

Normally I stick to Verbatim disks and the roasters I had with fc11
came from an otherwise fine batch of 50 disks.

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Re: Anyone using Skype on FC11 ?

2009-08-26 Thread Steven Stern

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On 08/26/2009 04:10 PM, Joel Gomberg wrote:
> On 08/26/2009 12:40 PM, Steven Stern wrote:
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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>>
>> On 08/26/2009 02:34 PM, jack craig wrote:
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> After the base sw install, i am getting audio capture&  audio playback
>>> errors when i try to make a test call.
>>>
>>> however, these are just icon level msgs; i am less clear how to see the
>>> actual failure details.
>>> besides /var/log/messages, is there any error log for Skype use?
>>>
>>> tia, jackc...
>>>
>>
>> I am.  Installation info here:
>>
>> http://www.sterndata.com/content/skype-fedora-linux
> 
> I read all the time that Skype won't work with pulseaudio, but it works
> for me.  I do, however, have alsa-plugins-pulseaudio-1.0.20-2.fc11.i586
> installed.  I don't have oss on my system, yet Skype works just fine. 
> Go figure.  YMMV.
> 
> 
> 
> 
I had very choppy sound and alsa-oss fixed it, although I don't use
"aoss" to run skype.  Once I use alsa-oss, I just tried every output
until I got one that worked.

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Re: [Solved, kinda]Nvidia driver problem

On Wednesday 26 August 2009 20:07:41 gil...@altern.org wrote:
> Having already removed akmod-nvidia, I booted with kernel
> 2.6.29.6-217.2.3.fc11.x86_64, which was the only one still working and
> just did:
>
> yum remove kmod-nvidia*

What exactly did this remove? If I guess right, it removes kmod-nvidia drivers 
for *all* kernels (but I might be wrong). You can check that in 
/var/log/yum.log.

> yum install kmod-nvidia

This has installed the driver for the *currently running* kernel, if I am not 
mistaken again. So the one you have booted has the driver --- others don't.

> How those packages ever got to my system, I have no idea.

Maybe you can try

cat /var/log/yum.log* | grep "nvidia"

and see when those packages got installed, if your old yum logs are still 
there.

> Now, kernel 2.6.29.6-217.2.8 works, kernel 2.6.29.6-217.2.7 which never
> worked and I considered destroyed by my experiments with akmod, still
> doesn't work, and kernel 2.6.29.6-217.2.3, which always worked flawlessly,
> now doesn't work. Maybe, I should have booted to kernel 2.6.29.6-217.2.8
> and worked from a terminal for the remove/install operations, but I still
> find it strange that the .3 kernel, which always worked fine with the
> 185.18.14-3.fc11 Nvidia modules, doesn't work anymore with the same
> modules.

Each kernel needs to have its own set of nvidia modules. Yum will pick up and 
install only the ones for the running kernel. Once you have removed kmod-
nvidia* all modules for all kernels have been removed. In order to install 
appropriate modules for all kernels, boot into each one in turn and yum 
install kmod-nvidia, and that should do it for every particular kernel.

> Note that I got the boot message, that otherwise only flashes by, with the
> icon at the bottom of the login screen. It would have been impossible to
> read this message if the boot process had not terminated at the login
> screen. The "I" for interactive set-up has absolutely no effect and Shift
> pg-up doesn't get you to the previous boot messages screen. Those are not
> always present in dmesg or /var/log/messages and might prove helpful for
> troubleshooting.

cat /var/log/boot.log

in the konsole or xterm or whatever, and scroll to your heart's content using 
the scrollbars.

It could be a good idea to spend some time getting acquainted with the 
contents of /var/log directory. I mean, you didn't really think that the boot 
information does not get logged anywhere for later reference, or did you? 
Wasn't it natural to look in a place where basically all important logs are 
written? Doesn't the name "boot.log" look rather obvious?

Or have you never bothered to look what stuff is there in /var/log, other than 
/var/log/messages?

Also, Shift+PageUp works in the console terminal, although it keeps the buffer 
only for the last command executed, IIRC. I believe that the scroll buffer gets 
flushed once you get into the login prompt after boot (I am talking runlevel 3 
here), so Shift-PageUp doesn't work in that particular case. But it works 
otherwise, within the "last output only" rule. It has always been like that, 
AFAIK.

HTH, :-)
Marko

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DHCP configuration question

Ok, dumb question, but given that my
/var/lib/dhclient/dhclient-eth0.lease info shows that I'm clearly
getting a hostname and domain name, why does "hostname" return
localhost.localdomain (and "domainname" returns "(none)")?

What do I need to enable to make this work?

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Re: F11: Fedora Eclipse: SVN fails to connect to any svn repository: Hangs.


On 08/26/2009 01:46 PM, Andrew Overholt wrote:

* Daniel B. Thurman  [2009-08-26 16:45]:
   

have to figure out if I can downgrade from v1.6x to v1.4x,
which may not be possible or is it?
 

I don't know.  If it's important, I suggest asking the subversion
maintainer.

Glad you got things straightened around,

Andrew
   


Ok, here is what I did:

1) yum remove eclipse-subclipse eclipse-svnkit
2) Added http://subclipse.tigris.org/update_1.4.x to update list,
unchecked v1.6x tigris site
3) Commited the update, and got:

Cannot complete the request.  See the details.
Unsatisfied dependency: 
[org.tigris.subversion.subclipse.graph.feature.feature.group 1.0.7] 
requiredCapability: org.eclipse.equinox.p2.iu/org.eclipse.gef/3.2.0
Unsatisfied dependency: 
[org.tigris.subversion.subclipse.graph.feature.feature.group 1.0.7] 
requiredCapability: org.eclipse.equinox.p2.iu/org.eclipse.draw2d/3.2.0
Unsatisfied dependency: 
[org.tigris.subversion.subclipse.graph.feature.feature.group 1.0.7] 
requiredCapability: org.eclipse.equinox.p2.iu/org.eclipse.draw2d/3.2.0
Unsatisfied dependency: 
[org.tigris.subversion.subclipse.graph.feature.feature.group 1.0.7] 
requiredCapability: org.eclipse.equinox.p2.iu/org.eclipse.gef/3.2.0


so what can I do to remove the above conflicts in order
to resolve the commit?  Looks to me that it is the GEF,
DRAW components that are the problems and does not
appear that it is possible to downgrade these?

Looks to me that I am entering into 'uncharted waters' here!
Perhaps it's just not worth it, I dunno.

BTW: I forgot to add that when subclipse v1.6x tries to access
 a 1.4x repository - it "hangs", so there probably should
 be code to handle this case.  I also note that in F11,
 clicking the X (terminate) button on the window does
 not work - so that may mean the terminate handler does
 not work?

Dan

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Re: Anyone using Skype on FC11 ?

2009-08-26 Thread Joel Gomberg


On 08/26/2009 12:40 PM, Steven Stern wrote:

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On 08/26/2009 02:34 PM, jack craig wrote:

Hi folks,

After the base sw install, i am getting audio capture&  audio playback
errors when i try to make a test call.

however, these are just icon level msgs; i am less clear how to see the
actual failure details.
besides /var/log/messages, is there any error log for Skype use?

tia, jackc...



I am.  Installation info here:

http://www.sterndata.com/content/skype-fedora-linux


I read all the time that Skype won't work with pulseaudio, but it works for me. 
 I do, however, have alsa-plugins-pulseaudio-1.0.20-2.fc11.i586 installed.  I 
don't have oss on my system, yet Skype works just fine.  Go figure.  YMMV.





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Re: Anyone using Skype on FC11 ?

2009-08-26 Thread jack craig


On 08/26/2009 12:40 PM, Steven Stern wrote:


I am.  Installation info here:

http://www.sterndata.com/content/skype-fedora-linux

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Great! thx, i'll check this out, ...

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Re: Double Icons in System Tray in KDE-4.3

2009-08-26 Thread Jim


On 08/26/2009 04:10 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:

On Wednesday 26 August 2009 19:13:31 Jim wrote:
   

FC11/KDE4.3
I get two "Notification and Jobs"  The  'i' icons in KDE system tray. If
I right click on one Icon I cannot remove, and I'm stuck with Two Icons.

I also get two kde Mixer Icons, if I right click on mixer icon it will
allow me to to 'Quit' one.

When I login to KDE the double Icons reappear.
What settings will let me setup for one icon on system tray of each app ?
 

Dumb question: you don't happen to have two system tray widgets, accidentally?

Best, :-)
Marko

   
No, just one System Tray.  And there is other Icons in it,and just one 
icon each.


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Re: F11: Fedora Eclipse: SVN fails to connect to any svn repository: Hangs.

* Daniel B. Thurman  [2009-08-26 16:45]:
> have to figure out if I can downgrade from v1.6x to v1.4x,
> which may not be possible or is it?

I don't know.  If it's important, I suggest asking the subversion
maintainer.

Glad you got things straightened around,

Andrew

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Re: Broken downloads of FC11-x86_64 and other disturbances

2009-08-26 Thread Tony Nelson

On 09-08-26 12:23:39, li...@funkster1 wrote:
 ...
> ... I'll start another bit-torrent dl right now and I'll 
> see tonight how it goes.

If you move your "best" download to the torrent download destination, 
bittorrent will just copy the parts that aren't correct.  It will 
usually be much faster than starting from scratch.

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Re: F11: Fedora Eclipse: SVN fails to connect to any svn repository: Hangs.


On 08/26/2009 12:31 PM, Andrew Overholt wrote:

* Daniel B. Thurman  [2009-08-26 15:28]:
   

I downloaded Galileo from Eclipse.  What are the steps to
get a working SVN package installed?
 

I don't use this kind of setup as the Fedora packages work great for me
and allow me to use javahl with my ssh keys which I've always found to a
bit a of a PITA (or to not work due to ABI differences) with upstream
downloads.

This blog entry seems relevant to your issues:

http://markphip.blogspot.com/2009/06/subclipse-and-eclipse-35galileo.html

I've never tried it.  You could always tried Subversive:

http://www.eclipse.org/subversive/

Good luck,

Andrew
   

Ok, I finally figured out why I was having such troubles.

As it turns out, I am using subversion v1.4 repositories for
which Eclipse-Subclipse v1.6 does not work with these
repositories!  These were created way back when I started
using Fx->F9 and other OSes - of which subversion 1.4x
was used.

So, I removed Collabnet (v10) & tigris subclipse v1.6, then
installed only tigris v1.4x, and lo & behold - it now works
cleanly.  Interestingly, even though I am using F11 &
subversion v1.6x, it serves my v1.4 repository requests
and my other machines just fine, so far.

This staves off upgrading of my v1.4x repositories,
well, at least for now. ;)  This is for Ganymede & Galileo
but I am not sure about F11-Fedora-Eclipse as I would
have to figure out if I can downgrade from v1.6x to v1.4x,
which may not be possible or is it?  I looked at it and there
does not seem to be a mechanism to remove the v1.6x
versions, so how can I do it?

Thanks!
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Re: headphone jack dosen't work on laptop on F11... any ideas?

On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:13:49 -0700
David Lam  wrote:

> running 2.6.29.5-191.fc11.x86_64 on my hp pavillion laptop,  when I
> plug in headphones I expect for the speakers to be muted and sound to
> come in the headphones, but I find there isn't any affect-- namely,
> sounds till comes from the speakers and no sound in the headphones
> just as if I hadn't plugged them in, in the first place.
> 
> anyone experience/fix something like this before?

I see occasional messages on the alsa lists for this on various
hardware, as well as occasional messages about patches fixing it for
certain hardware.  It usually means that there is a configuration error
in the driver.  You should run the alsa-info.sh script so you identify
http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-driver.git;a=blob_plain;f=utils/alsa-info.sh
your hardware correctly (or aplay -l which is easier) and then do a web
search with your alsa driver, card, and headphone.  There are fixes
going into the alsa drivers all the time so you might want to pick up
the latest driver snapshot, compile it, and load the module for your
card to see if it fixes the problem.

If you don't find a fix and you have the programming chops, you could
fix the driver and submit a patch.

There used to be links to tarball snapshots by Takashi Iwai of the
alsa packages on the alsa website, but I don't see them anymore.  There
is a link to the git repository under developers and the latest stable
release.

http://alsa-project.org/

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Re: yum update and windows missing title bar

Yes I tried kwin and it works fine but I want to see compiz working.
Rebooting did not help either.


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Re: yum update and windows missing title bar

2009/8/26 Marko Vojinovic 

>
> Window manager failed? Maybe some the following could help:
>
> * log out and log back in
> * killall plasma & plasma &&
> * kwin --replace  (and look for any errors)
> * read /var/log/messages for any info from kwin
> * disable desktop effects
> * reboot the machine (there were a lot of updates for KDE, maybe something
> got
> messed up wrt already running apps?)
>
> Are you maybe using some other window manager? Compiz? WindowMaker?
> Something
> else?
>
> HTH, :-)
> Marko
>

Yes it is compiz failing. It complains about missing Xgl.


My xorg.conf is given at the end of this mail.

Vijay

# Xorg configuration created by livna-config-display

Section "Files"
ModulePath   "/usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/nvidia"
ModulePath   "/usr/lib64/xorg/modules"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
Option  "AIGLX" "on"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "Videocard0"
Driver  "nvidia"
Option  "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
Option  "Composite" "Enable"
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Re: Double Icons in System Tray in KDE-4.3

On Wednesday 26 August 2009 19:13:31 Jim wrote:
> FC11/KDE4.3
> I get two "Notification and Jobs"  The  'i' icons in KDE system tray. If
> I right click on one Icon I cannot remove, and I'm stuck with Two Icons.
>
> I also get two kde Mixer Icons, if I right click on mixer icon it will
> allow me to to 'Quit' one.
>
> When I login to KDE the double Icons reappear.
> What settings will let me setup for one icon on system tray of each app ?

Dumb question: you don't happen to have two system tray widgets, accidentally?

Best, :-)
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headphone jack dosen't work on laptop on F11... any ideas?

2009-08-26 Thread David Lam

running 2.6.29.5-191.fc11.x86_64 on my hp pavillion laptop,  when I plug in
headphones I expect for the speakers to be muted and sound to come in the
headphones, but I find there isn't any affect-- namely, sounds till comes
from the speakers and no sound in the headphones just as if I hadn't plugged
them in, in the first place.

anyone experience/fix something like this before?
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Re: yum update and windows missing title bar

On Wednesday 26 August 2009 18:27:41 Vijay Gill wrote:
> I ran an update today and now all windows are missing title bar so I cannot
> resize or move them around.

Window manager failed? Maybe some the following could help:

* log out and log back in
* killall plasma & plasma &&
* kwin --replace  (and look for any errors)
* read /var/log/messages for any info from kwin
* disable desktop effects
* reboot the machine (there were a lot of updates for KDE, maybe something got 
messed up wrt already running apps?)

Are you maybe using some other window manager? Compiz? WindowMaker? Something 
else?

HTH, :-)
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Re: Anyone using Skype on FC11 ?

2009-08-26 Thread Steven Stern

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On 08/26/2009 02:34 PM, jack craig wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> After the base sw install, i am getting audio capture & audio playback
> errors when i try to make a test call.
> 
> however, these are just icon level msgs; i am less clear how to see the
> actual failure details.
> besides /var/log/messages, is there any error log for Skype use?
> 
> tia, jackc...
> 

I am.  Installation info here:

http://www.sterndata.com/content/skype-fedora-linux

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Re: Where is pulseaudio started?

2009-08-26 Thread Steve Blackwell

On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:21:20 -0700
Rick Stevens  wrote:

> 
> It's started in your session.  If you're using Gnome, go to
> 
>  System->Preferences->Startup Applications
> 
> and scroll down the list.  

Ah-ha! There's the answer. On my F10 system it is

System->Preferences->Personal->Sessions

but there is an entry for PA. Now, what I'd like to know is where is
the file that stores this info and what reads it when I login. Back in
the day it used to be Xsession or something like that.

Thanks Rick,
Steve

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Anyone using Skype on FC11 ?

2009-08-26 Thread jack craig


Hi folks,

After the base sw install, i am getting audio capture & audio playback 
errors when i try to make a test call.


however, these are just icon level msgs; i am less clear how to see the 
actual failure details.

besides /var/log/messages, is there any error log for Skype use?

tia, jackc...

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Re: F11: Fedora Eclipse: SVN fails to connect to any svn repository: Hangs.

* Daniel B. Thurman  [2009-08-26 15:28]:
> I downloaded Galileo from Eclipse.  What are the steps to
> get a working SVN package installed?

I don't use this kind of setup as the Fedora packages work great for me
and allow me to use javahl with my ssh keys which I've always found to a
bit a of a PITA (or to not work due to ABI differences) with upstream
downloads.

This blog entry seems relevant to your issues:

http://markphip.blogspot.com/2009/06/subclipse-and-eclipse-35galileo.html

I've never tried it.  You could always tried Subversive:

http://www.eclipse.org/subversive/

Good luck,

Andrew

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Re: F11: Fedora Eclipse: SVN fails to connect to any svn repository: Hangs.


On 08/26/2009 11:36 AM, Andrew Overholt wrote:

* Daniel B. Thurman  [2009-08-26 13:29]:
   

I checked.  It does not work at all.

 

You love the inflammatory subjects and statements,eh?  :)

   

Was that a joke?  It was specifically on SVN and perhaps a
localized problem, i.e. maybe it's just me! :)
 

Yes, I was kidding :)

   

I checked over and over - Subclipse spins it's wheels, chewing up CPUs
(I have two, so both CPUs are chewing hard) - so only a kill will
terminate it.
 

You should file a bug against the package (eclipse-subclipse).  This is
not expected behaviour nor can I reproduce it.

   

Then, I went back to Ganymede and noticed that even though
the startup splash appeared, it loaded the components, but strangely,
it created a $HOME/Desktop/Projects folder with the "wsp1" contents,
 

Wow, I've never seen anything like that.

Andrew
   

Can you please, pretty please do me a favor if you can?

I downloaded Galileo from Eclipse.  What are the steps to
get a working SVN package installed?

The software install "Collaboration" category includes the
SVN packages but it is missing the "tigris adaptor" and without
this adaptor, it will not work at all.  I prefer to use this method
if I can get the "pre-installed adaptor" installed properly.

Having done this months ago, I used "The Mylyn Task" method,
got it to work, but I forget the steps required to do it. As I recall
it was not a breeze because even then, it required careful
steps to get it right i.e. you cannot use the SVN stuff provided
in Eclipse Software Install packages or there will be a conflict
with "MyLyn Task - CollabNet" installation process.

Perhaps a link that is proven to work?

Thanks!
Dan

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New "Desktop Effect" after 8/24 "yum update"

2009-08-26 Thread Steven P. Ulrick

Hello Everyone
After running "yum update" on August 24th, and receiving the KDE 4.3 updates, I 
have been getting random occurances of this little beauty:
http://www.afolkey2.net/~steve/20090826-Fedora11-ScreenShot-001.jpg

That is a screenshot of my entire desktop (with Kontact maximized of course.)  
When it does it, an application will start out normal size, and just stretch 
itself, and then keep stretching until I stop it.  When I opened Gimp 2.7 to 
take a screenshot of Kontact going through it's "afternoon stretch", Gimp 
started to stretch as well...

I am running an NVidia based video card and the proprietary NVidia driver.  
Since a few other things have taken place around this time, it is VERY possible 
that all of the KDE updates are completely unrelated to this:
1. Updated kernel
2. The resulting updated NVidia driver.
3. Rebooted into that new kernel during the investigation of that other issue 
that I just solved on this list.

But one thing to consider is that the above three points might not be relevant, 
because I HAD NOT rebooted until after the first time that I saw this 
"stretching" effect.  All it took to begin seeing this was logging out of KDE 
and 
logging back in.  Which of course does NOT prove that KDE is at fault.

lspci -v shows the following:

03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G94 [GeForce 9600 GT] 
(rev 
a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Subsystem: nVidia Corporation Device 058f   
  
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16   
  
Memory at fa00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
  
Memory at d000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]   
  
Memory at f800 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M]
  
I/O ports at cc00 [size=128]
  
[virtual] Expansion ROM at fbb8 [disabled] [size=512K]
Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 3
Capabilities: [68] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
Capabilities: [78] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
Capabilities: [b4] Vendor Specific Information 
Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel 
Capabilities: [128] Power Budgeting 
Capabilities: [600] Vendor Specific Information 
Kernel driver in use: nvidia
Kernel modules: nvidia, nouveau

Anyway, any thoughts/similar experiences are greatly appreciated.

Steven P. Ulrick

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Re: Where is pulseaudio started?

2009-08-26 Thread Steve Blackwell

On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 10:03:08 -0700
Jonathan Ryshpan  wrote:

> On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 09:25 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
> > stan wrote:
> > > If you are using the default Fedora setup, you have your own
> > > version of pulse started when you log in.  I notice that it also
> > > can be started by programs that need its services, and that seems
> > > to be gconf-helper.
> > 
> > Isn't "autospawn" activated by default in /etc/pulse/client.conf?
> > That means you can have pulseaudio started by who knows what.
> 
> I don't think so.  On my system (Fedora-11 vanilla) autospawn is
> commented out.
> 
> jon
> 

It's commented out in my F10 system too.

I really didn't think that this was going to be a difficult question!

I'm assuming that where pulseaudio is started can change from
distribution to distribution which is why I'm asking on this list.

I don't want to disable pulseaudio, I just want to understand what it
does and how it works om my system a little better.

Steve

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Re: Where is pulseaudio started?


Steven W. Orr wrote:

On 08/26/09 13:03, quoth Jonathan Ryshpan:

On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 09:25 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote:

stan wrote:

If you are using the default Fedora setup, you have your own version of
pulse started when you log in.  I notice that it also can be started by
programs that need its services, and that seems to be gconf-helper.

Isn't "autospawn" activated by default in /etc/pulse/client.conf?
That means you can have pulseaudio started by who knows what.

I don't think so.  On my system (Fedora-11 vanilla) autospawn is
commented out.

jon




Ok. Why do you think it's commented out?

I'm looking at my copy and the comments in the top of the file begin with a
#sign but the config lines begin with a semi;colon. So right now I have no
idea what's a comment and what's required syntax.

Can pulseaudio be simply shut OFF? This thing really stinks.


It works for most people, Steven.  Some people (myself included) have
had issues with it, but that doesn't mean it "really stinks."

It's started in your session.  If you're using Gnome, go to

System->Preferences->Startup Applications

and scroll down the list.  You can uncheck the box next to "PulseAudio
Sound System" to not have it start up, or delete it entirely.  There's
undoubtedly a similar thing for KDE, but since I'm not a KDE user, I
don't know where it is.  Someone else want to chime in?
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Re: F-11 and F-12 on same machine?

2009-08-26 Thread Timothy Murphy

Tom Horsley wrote:

>> It seems to me that it shouldn't be too difficult
>> for an "if F11 ... elsif F12" sequence to be included
>> in files that might be affected.
> 
> That would be up to each of the individual 47,321 apps
> that cram things in ~/ to do, and since only 0.001%
> of linux developers think either forward or
> backward compatibility is remotely useful, I doubt
> it would ever happen :-).

I think there are very few applications
that cause these problems.
Perhaps an alternative might be for such files
to be kept somewhere in /etc/ rather than in $HOME.

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Re: OT: Is the AMD Phenom processor upwards compabible with the Opteron


Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:

Configuring the kernel I came across a choice between generic-x86_64
processors, and the Opteron/Athlon/Hammer/K8 processors.  My system has
a 4-core Phenom processor.  Questions:

 1. Is the Phenom compatible with the Opteron/etc?  I.e. if I
configure for the Opteron, will my kernel be reliable?  (This is
not as easy to find out as I thought.)


To my knowledge, yes.  It's certainly compatible with the Athlon.  I run
a Phenom quad-core as well, but I just use the off-the-shelf x86_64
kernel.  Works fine.


 2. How much of a performance advantage is there to configuring for
the Opteron as against the generic?


I don't know that you'd notice any significant difference with a normal
work load.  If you were doing heavy I/O or number crunching, then you
might see some difference, but not enough to really bother making a
custom kernel.

That's just my opinion, of course.
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Re: modify sshd port number


pete b. wrote:

OS: FC-10
If the sshd_config port number is changed and then sshd restarted, I get
an error from SElinux.  SElinux troubleshoot told me to do the following
(which
results in another problem).  Is this saying the port number I've chosen
may have a conflict or just the correct semanage options must be used.
SELinux popup: AVC denial

[r...@128 sysconfig]# semanage port -a -t PORT_TYPE -p PROTOCOL 
/usr/sbin/semanage: Protocol udp or tcp is required


Uh, "man semanage" would point you in the right direction.  If you want
to use port  for TCP, then:

# semanage -a port -t ssh_port_t -p tcp 

You can view the current port listings via:

# semanage port -l

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Re: yum update and windows missing title bar

2009/8/26 Steven Stern 

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> If you're running Gnome, try disabling then re-enabling desktop effects.
>
> - --
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>  Steve
>

Hi,

Should have provide more details but missed in hurry. I am running KDE
4.whatever version Fedora 11 has in its latest updates.

Vijay
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Re: modify sshd port number

2009-08-26 Thread pete b.

OS: FC-10
If the sshd_config port number is changed and then sshd restarted, I get
an error from SElinux.  SElinux troubleshoot told me to do the following
(which
results in another problem).  Is this saying the port number I've chosen
may have a conflict or just the correct semanage options must be used.
SELinux popup: AVC denial

[r...@128 sysconfig]# semanage port -a -t PORT_TYPE -p PROTOCOL 
/usr/sbin/semanage: Protocol udp or tcp is required

P.A.
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Re: Re: Firewall and nfs mounts

2009-08-26 Thread Todd Denniston

Anne Wilson wrote, On 12/23/-28158 02:59 PM:

On Tuesday 25 August 2009 00:16:28 Ed Greshko wrote:

Anne Wilson wrote:

On Monday 24 August 2009 15:44:20 Bill McGonigle wrote:

On 08/24/2009 08:15 AM, Anne Wilson wrote:

What ports are necessarily opened on an nfs server? Does the client
need any ports opened?

If you can limit yourself to NFSv4 you're much better off in this
department. I have this on an NFSv4 server:

# NFS
-A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --source
192.168.1.32/27 --dport 2049 -j ACCEPT

and nothing on a working client other than the standard:

-A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT

Thanks. That's something to work on. Although I have had a working
firewall in the past, I'm not really familiar with iptables setup. Since
a gui tool was provided I expected it to do the necessary (this is
system-config- securitylevels on CentOS) but it doesn't. I used
shorewall to set up my firewall long ago, and I'm beginning to think I
might be better of seeing if there's a package for CentOS. Gui tools
seem nice, but I don't like the fact that they rarely tell you what the
are and aren't doing.

When it comes to a shorewall package for CentOS or RHEL you can enable
the EPEL repository https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL

Thanks, Ed. I should be able to get to that tomorrow. The thing is that I
only want nfs across the lan. The router would stop any external attempts to
use nfs mounting, so it seems to me that trusting the local zone might be all
that's needed. I think that is straightforward, IIRC, in shorewall.

Anne

Anne,
If you are using NFS V2/3 instead of 4 (TCP) then the following might be as useful to you as it was
to me. :)

http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/docs/DOC-3259

Of course if you had time/inclination you would be using something other than the 1-10005 range
where everyone will now be looking for your NFS, if they could only find a way to get past your
router. :)

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Re: F11: Fedora Eclipse: SVN fails to connect to any svn repository: Hangs.

* Daniel B. Thurman  [2009-08-26 13:29]:
>>> I checked.  It does not work at all.
>>>  
>> You love the inflammatory subjects and statements,eh?  :)
>>
> Was that a joke?  It was specifically on SVN and perhaps a
> localized problem, i.e. maybe it's just me! :)

Yes, I was kidding :)

> I checked over and over - Subclipse spins it's wheels, chewing up CPUs
> (I have two, so both CPUs are chewing hard) - so only a kill will
> terminate it.

You should file a bug against the package (eclipse-subclipse).  This is
not expected behaviour nor can I reproduce it.

> Then, I went back to Ganymede and noticed that even though
> the startup splash appeared, it loaded the components, but strangely,
> it created a $HOME/Desktop/Projects folder with the "wsp1" contents,

Wow, I've never seen anything like that.

Andrew

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Re: Thunderbird 3 and 2? Solved

2009-08-26 Thread Marcelo M. Garcia


On 08/25/2009 10:59 PM, Mike Cloaked wrote:




Marcelo M. Garcia wrote:



After looking a way to compact the header of a message, I found out that
this feature was removed from Thunderbird 3 beta 3, and it's not clear
if this is a final decision[1,2].

This was quite shocking news. In my case a loose a considerable amount
of "screen". And I image this is a problem to other people too.

I would like to know if it's possible to Fedora (or another repo) offer
both versions of Thunderbird, i.e., 2 and 3?




https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/13564

works nicely in TB 3 in F11...

Hi

Thank you very much. It really works fine.

Regards

mg.

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OT: Is the AMD Phenom processor upwards compabible with the Opteron

Configuring the kernel I came across a choice between generic-x86_64
processors, and the Opteron/Athlon/Hammer/K8 processors.  My system has
a 4-core Phenom processor.  Questions:

 1. Is the Phenom compatible with the Opteron/etc?  I.e. if I
configure for the Opteron, will my kernel be reliable?  (This is
not as easy to find out as I thought.)
 2. How much of a performance advantage is there to configuring for
the Opteron as against the generic?

Thanks - jon


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Re: About configuring a kernel, and CONFIG_PREEMPT (Solved)

On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 08:23 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: 
> I need to rebuild the Fedora Kernel, something I haven't done for
> many years, to (hopefully) reduce the large number of xruns that I'm
> getting using jackd.  The plan is to build a preemtable kernel. 

> 3. The natural way to build the new kernel would seem to be to unpack 
>   the kernel source, using 
>   $ rpm --install kernel-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.src.rpm 
>   copy in the .config file from the kernel-devel package, and then
>   run 
>   rpmbuild -bb --short-circuit 
>   to generate the new kernel RPMs.
> 
>   Unfortunately the --short-circuit argument cannot be combined with
>   the -bb argument.  What's the best thing to do here?

There is an easy way to do this *for the kernel*, which is do whatever
modifications you want, say by using "$ make gconfig" and then to invoke
"$ make rpm".

Unfortunately, nothing like make rpm seems to be available for most
RPMs, which is a bother when you want to modify them.

jon


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Double Icons in System Tray in KDE-4.3

2009-08-26 Thread Jim


FC11/KDE4.3
I get two "Notification and Jobs"  The  'i' icons in KDE system tray. If 
I right click on one Icon I cannot remove, and I'm stuck with Two Icons.


I also get two kde Mixer Icons, if I right click on mixer icon it will 
allow me to to 'Quit' one.


When I login to KDE the double Icons reappear.
What settings will let me setup for one icon on system tray of each app ?

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Re: Pulseaudio config problem.

On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:08:11 +0100
Anne Wilson  wrote:

> On Tuesday 25 August 2009 23:51:03 stan wrote:
> > No idea?  It should be turned off.  Run
> > alsamixer -c 1
> > and use the arrow keys to go to the entries that have IEC958 in
> > them. Use 0 to turn them off, and down arrow to lower volumes if
> > necessary.
> 
> Unless something has changed from the old alsamixer, 'M' mutes any
> channel.
> 
> Anne

Thanks Anne.  You are right.

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Re: About configuring a kernel, and CONFIG_PREEMPT

On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 08:23:26 -0700
Jonathan Ryshpan  wrote:

> I need to rebuild the Fedora Kernel, something I haven't done for
> many years, to (hopefully) reduce the large number of xruns that I'm
> getting using jackd.  The plan is to build a preemtable kernel. 

Another alternative is to use a prebuilt kernel from planetccrma
repositories.  They apply Ingo Molnar's real time patch.
Because they run on Fedora, this is very convenient.  If you search on
linux, ingo molnar and realtime patch you will find descriptions of
this patch and you can probably apply it to a vanilla kernel yourself
also. When I look at the patches already in the Fedora kernels, it
seems to me that they have implemented some of this already.  When I
tried to apply it to the Fedora kernel, there were namespace
collisions, which implies the same.

> 
>  1. It look like the file .config in the kernel-devel RPM contains
> the configuration parameters for the kernel that goes with
> that version of kernel-devel.  For example, right now, I'm running
> kernel version 2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.x86_64, so this would
> mean that /usr/src/kernels/2.6.29.6-217.2.3.fc11.x86_64/.config
> contains the configuration parameters for that kernel. 

This is true, but it is also in the src.rpm from Fedora.

> 
>  2. This .config file generates a kernel with voluntary
> preemption. Is this to avoid a bug or suchlike, or just to generate a
> kernel that's best for general use?

I think it is to be best for general use, but I don't *know*.

> 
>  3. The natural way to build the new kernel would seem to be to
> unpack the kernel source, using 
>   $ rpm --install kernel-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.src.rpm 
>   copy in the .config file from the kernel-devel package, and
> then run 
>   rpmbuild -bb --short-circuit 
>   to generate the new kernel RPMs.
> 
>   Unfortunately the --short-circuit argument cannot be combined
> with the -bb argument.  What's the best thing to do here?

Go the the link
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel
and use the instructions there.

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[Solved, kinda]Nvidia driver problem

2009-08-26 Thread gilpel

Having already removed akmod-nvidia, I booted with kernel
2.6.29.6-217.2.3.fc11.x86_64, which was the only one still working and
just did:

yum remove kmod-nvidia*

yum install kmod-nvidia

which took care of dependencies. So, not only was:

kmod-nvidia-2.6.29.6-217.2.3.fc11.x86_64.x86_64
   185.18.31-1.fc11

removed, but also:

xorg-x11-drv-nvidia.x86_64185.18.31-1.fc11
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs.x86_64   185.18.31-1.fc11

How those packages ever got to my system, I have no idea. I never enabled
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing. (Maybe somebody at rpmfusion is keeping
a low profile for supplying these as dependencies with akmod?)

Now, kernel 2.6.29.6-217.2.8 works, kernel 2.6.29.6-217.2.7 which never
worked and I considered destroyed by my experiments with akmod, still
doesn't work, and kernel 2.6.29.6-217.2.3, which always worked flawlessly,
now doesn't work. Maybe, I should have booted to kernel 2.6.29.6-217.2.8
and worked from a terminal for the remove/install operations, but I still
find it strange that the .3 kernel, which always worked fine with the
185.18.14-3.fc11 Nvidia modules, doesn't work anymore with the same
modules.

Though the Nvidia drivers now seem to work very well with the .8 kernel, I
have those error messages:

boot message:

Enabling the nvidia driver: /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions: line 513 :1298
Segmentation fault "$@"


dmesg | grep nvidia

nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel.
nvidia :01:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 18
nvidia :01:00.0: setting latency timer to 64
nvidia-config-d[1300]: segfault at 7f5ac400 ip 003e7dc799a4 sp
7b6f0448 error 4 in libc-2.10.1.so[3e7dc0+164000]

Note that I got the boot message, that otherwise only flashes by, with the
icon at the bottom of the login screen. It would have been impossible to
read this message if the boot process had not terminated at the login
screen. The "I" for interactive set-up has absolutely no effect and Shift
pg-up doesn't get you to the previous boot messages screen. Those are not
always present in dmesg or /var/log/messages and might prove helpful for
troubleshooting.

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Re: Where is pulseaudio started?

On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 13:39 -0400, Steven W. Orr wrote:
> On 08/26/09 13:03, quoth Jonathan Ryshpan:
> > On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 09:25 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
> >> stan wrote:
> >>> If you are using the default Fedora setup, you have your own version of
> >>> pulse started when you log in.  I notice that it also can be started by
> >>> programs that need its services, and that seems to be gconf-helper.
> >> Isn't "autospawn" activated by default in /etc/pulse/client.conf?
> >> That means you can have pulseaudio started by who knows what.
> > 
> > I don't think so.  On my system (Fedora-11 vanilla) autospawn is
> > commented out.
> > 
> > jon
> > 
> > 
> 
> Ok. Why do you think it's commented out?
> 
> I'm looking at my copy and the comments in the top of the file begin with a
> #sign but the config lines begin with a semi;colon. So right now I have no
> idea what's a comment and what's required syntax.
> 
> Can pulseaudio be simply shut OFF? This thing really stinks.

A comment near the top of /etc/pulse/client.conf reads:

## Configuration file for PulseAudio clients. See pulse-client.conf(5) for
## more information. Default values a commented out.  Use either ; or # for
## commenting.

I too am interested in not having pulseaudio start at login time, which
is why I'm following this thread.

jon



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Re: Yum ??

2009-08-26 Thread Bruno Wolff III

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 10:18:11 -0700,
  Aldo Foot  wrote:
> In fedora we get individual files for respos., but in CentOS you get a
> single text file with several entries -one per repo, in which case the
> file name is not what it's used.

Not exactly. For example fedora-source and fedora-debug are defined in
fedora.repo as well as fedora. They typically aren't enabled, but there
is still more than one definition per file.

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Re: Where is pulseaudio started?

2009-08-26 Thread Steven W. Orr

On 08/26/09 13:03, quoth Jonathan Ryshpan:
> On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 09:25 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
>> stan wrote:
>>> If you are using the default Fedora setup, you have your own version of
>>> pulse started when you log in.  I notice that it also can be started by
>>> programs that need its services, and that seems to be gconf-helper.
>> Isn't "autospawn" activated by default in /etc/pulse/client.conf?
>> That means you can have pulseaudio started by who knows what.
> 
> I don't think so.  On my system (Fedora-11 vanilla) autospawn is
> commented out.
> 
> jon
> 
> 

Ok. Why do you think it's commented out?

I'm looking at my copy and the comments in the top of the file begin with a
#sign but the config lines begin with a semi;colon. So right now I have no
idea what's a comment and what's required syntax.

Can pulseaudio be simply shut OFF? This thing really stinks.

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Re: yum update and windows missing title bar

2009-08-26 Thread Steven Stern

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On 08/26/2009 12:27 PM, Vijay Gill wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I ran an update today and now all windows are missing title bar so I
> cannot resize or move them around.
> 
> System is Fedora 64 bit, with NVidia drivers for display.
> 
> Can provide more information if required. Tried searching on net but
> could not find quickly as I have leave for my gym now. But I want my
> system fixed soon as it is my main desktop.
> 
> Regards
> Vijay
> 

If you're running Gnome, try disabling then re-enabling desktop effects.

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Re: New "feature" after recent "yum update" (SOLVED!)

2009-08-26 Thread Steven P. Ulrick

> On Wednesday 26 August 2009 16:22:17 Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Wednesday 26 August 2009 15:35:37 Steven P. Ulrick wrote:
> > > Hello Anne
> > > First of all, thank you for stepping in on an issue that you yourself
> > > have not even seen yet.  That is well appreciated :)
> > > After reading your reply, I rebooted and logged back in to KDE.  The
> > > result is exactly the same as I described in my first email on this
> > > subject.  The circle/exclamation mark DID NOT return to the applications
> > > that had originally had it and that I had opened before the reboot.  That
> > > is good :) Just for a test, I opened one the the applications that still
> > > had the circle/exclamation point over the icon, and the behavior was just
> > > like before the reboot: the application started immediately after I
> > > clicked "Continue"
> >
> > Haven't actually helped much, have I?  Still, if you can find anything at
> > all in the logs it would help us understand what happened.
> >
> Amazing how things crop up!  I've just come across this:
> 
> http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=77468&p=122035#p122035
> 
> Is it your thread, or just someone reached the same position as you?

Hello Anne
No, that is not my thread.  BUT, running "chmod 744 *.desktop" resulted in the 
"feature" that I started this thread about being immediately disabled :)  Like 
I 
think I said in my initial message on this, it's not that I think that this is 
a 
bad idea, but I just didn't happen to like it.

I figured that this might be something really simple, but I figured the more 
places that this new feature gets referred to on the internet the better.  
Somebody might find the answer to this here, but for some reason might not be 
able to find it on the KDE forum.

Thank you for having Google skills that clearly surpass my own...

Steven P. Ulrick

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Re: F11: Fedora Eclipse: SVN fails to connect to any svn repository: Hangs.


On 08/26/2009 09:00 AM, Andrew Overholt wrote:

Hi Dan,

   

I checked.  It does not work at all.
 

You love the inflammatory subjects and statements,eh?  :)
   

Was that a joke?  It was specifically on SVN and perhaps a
localized problem, i.e. maybe it's just me! :)

FWIW, as usual, everything works perfectly fine for me.
   

How does one get the latest updates with Fedora's
version of Eclipse w/o trashing Fedora's Eclipse
configurations?
 

yum update?  I assume you mean the issue with .eclipse and the 3.4
series of Eclipse.  Did you try temporarily moving ~/.eclipse out of the
way to see if that is indeed the problem?

I assume you're using Subclipse from Fedora?  Perhaps Robert Marcano,
the Fedora eclipse-subclipse package maintainer, has an idea?

Andrew


Yes, F11 is fully "yum update"ed.

It is strange.  I have 3 versions of Eclipse, the F11 Fedora,
Ganymede SR-2, and Galileo.

I also have my workspaces assigned to /f-App1/Projects/Eclipse/WS
and within WS, I have directories: Fedora, Ganymede, and Galileo, with
subdirectories containing workspaces as: wsp1->wspX so the I can
avoid version collisions.

The following are the steps I took, in order.

I ran Ganymede, it was working fine once I assigned the proper
workspace.  I checked to make sure that CVS & SVN worked, it did.

I ran Galileo, worked fine and good results with CVS/SVN.

I ran F11-Fedora AS IS - NO CHANGES, not even an update
within F11-Fedora-Eclipse, since I was not clear how to update
properly without damaging it.  It uses subclipse + subversion
client/native + SVNKit.  I checked over and over - Subclipse
spins it's wheels, chewing up CPUs (I have two, so both CPUs
are chewing hard) - so only a kill will terminate it.

Then, I went back to Ganymede and noticed that even though
the startup splash appeared, it loaded the components, but strangely,
it created a $HOME/Desktop/Projects folder with the "wsp1" contents,
and popped open an empty window and stood there, silently. Recall, that
previously I had specified the WS completely outside of $HOME, so
unless the workspace-switcher changed gears, I can't tell.  Most strange.

Yes, I am juggling around with $HOME/.eclipse, $HOME/workspace
and so on - to no avail.  I went further.  I brought out of archives
backup my known good zipped up Ganymede-SR2 and tried that
out and got the same "no-startup" problem.

So, F11-Fedora-Eclipse sort of works, Ganymede is "hosed", and
Galileo is "happy as a clam" ;)

Dan

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yum update and windows missing title bar

Hi,

I ran an update today and now all windows are missing title bar so I cannot
resize or move them around.

System is Fedora 64 bit, with NVidia drivers for display.

Can provide more information if required. Tried searching on net but could
not find quickly as I have leave for my gym now. But I want my system fixed
soon as it is my main desktop.

Regards
Vijay
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Re: Yum ??

2009-08-26 Thread Aldo Foot

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:57 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 19:26 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
>> On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 19:10:14 -0400
>> Jim wrote:
>>
>> > This command has problems with fedora-updates-testing .
>> > "Error getting repository data for fedora-updates-testing"
>>
>> You can find the names of the repos in the files stashed
>> in /etc/yum.repos.d/ the repo names are in [brackets]
>> as in:
>>
>> [updates-testing]
>>
>> [updates-testing-debuginfo]
>>
>> etc...
>>
> That is sort of confusing . One would think that the file itself is the
> repo. This have confused me also for awhile. I am glad you cleared this
> up.
> --

The repo name vs. file thing is release dependent.
In fedora we get individual files for respos., but in CentOS you get a
single text file with several entries -one per repo, in which case the
file name is not what it's used.

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Re: KDE login broken in rawhide


Clemens Eisserer wrote:

Hi,

Since about last week I can't login into KDE anymore using KDM.
The KDE splash screen appears, but after this xmessage pops up saying
~"can't start kded4" or something like that.

I've quite a number of KDE4 updates installed, but it still happens.
Has somebody else experienced this problem too? Does it need manual solving?


Any and all problems with rawhide releases should be directed to the
fedora-test-list.  Many of those list members are also members here,
not all of them are, and they may not see your posting.

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experimental versions such as rawhide, -alpha, -beta or release
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Re: SSH and X forwarding not working from my laptop

Gary Stainburn wrote:
> I'm sure I've reported this a while back but I can't find it in the archives.
> 
> I'm having a problems connecting from my laptop to a number of my servers. 
> It's not a solid fault, but it's fairly constant at the moment.
> 
> I have a number of servers FC7 to FC10 that I connect to, as well as a number 
> of FC10 workstations. These all work fine. However from my laptop I get the 
> following when I connect:
> 
> Warning: No xauth data; using fake authentication data for X11 forwarding.
> tcsetattr: Interrupted system call
> Last login: Wed Aug 26 11:13:21 2009 from gary.ringways.co.uk
> [r...@stan ~]#
> 
> and then once I'm in the BASH command line editing doesn't work.
> 
> Can anyone suggest where I can start looking into the problem.  I'm not too 
> bad with ssh but have  no knowledge of xauth, konsole, BASH etc.
> 
> Gary
Dumb question - have you compared /etc/ssh/ssh.conf on your laptop
to the same file on machines that do not give you trouble? It sounds
like an xauth problem on the laptop...

# If this option is set to yes then remote X11 clients will have
full access
# to the original X11 display. As virtually no X11 client supports
the untrusted
# mode correctly we set this to yes.
ForwardX11Trusted yes
#

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Re: Broken downloads of FC11-x86_64 and other disturbances

2009-08-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan

On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 18:23 +0200, li...@funkster1 wrote:
> Yeah, that's quite possible, mine is a little older already as well.
> It's an "LG HL DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B Firmware A105" rated at 16x,
> like yours. Or maybe it's k3b, it's given me problems on more than one
> occasion.

Exactly the same drive, except Firmware A104. Try growisofs from the
command line. Also, the blank media you use can make a big difference.
I've made good results from TDK but some of the obscurer brands have
high failure rates.

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Re: Where is pulseaudio started?

On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 09:25 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
> stan wrote:
> > If you are using the default Fedora setup, you have your own version of
> > pulse started when you log in.  I notice that it also can be started by
> > programs that need its services, and that seems to be gconf-helper.
> 
> Isn't "autospawn" activated by default in /etc/pulse/client.conf?
> That means you can have pulseaudio started by who knows what.

I don't think so.  On my system (Fedora-11 vanilla) autospawn is
commented out.

jon


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Re: Broken downloads of FC11-x86_64 and other disturbances

li...@funkster1 wrote:
> 
> Yeah, that's quite possible, mine is a little older already as well.
> It's an "LG HL DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B Firmware A105" rated at 16x,
> like yours. Or maybe it's k3b, it's given me problems on more than one
> occasion. I'll start another bit-torrent dl right now and I'll see tonight
> how it goes.
> Thanks for all your comments guys
> 
> Raphael ;)
> 
From what I have seen, it depends on a combination of the drive and
the media you are using. The same media that gives problems in one
model drive will work fine in another drive. Then again, sometimes
different batches of disks of the same brand act differently. So
sticking with the same brand does not always work.

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Re: F11: No longer getting auto-mounted drive partitions to /media?

Tim wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 09:01 +0100, John Austin wrote:
>> I used gparted/F11 recently to format and label NTFS partitions on an
>> external USB disk that is normally connected to a 32bit Vista laptop.
> 
> I never thought about using gparted to relabel my SD card.
> Unfortunately, it doesn't even notice that the card's present on the
> system (I've just tried, now).
> 
I have to check in F11, but in F10, it sees SD, CF, and SM cards.
(All I have to test with. The only problem is that it reports an
unknown file system instead of a FAT32 file system. (I had never
checked it before.)

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Re: KDE login broken in rawhide

2009-08-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan

On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 11:22 -0400, Clemens Eisserer wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Since about last week I can't login into KDE anymore using KDM.
> The KDE splash screen appears, but after this xmessage pops up saying
> ~"can't start kded4" or something like that.
> 
> I've quite a number of KDE4 updates installed, but it still happens.
> Has somebody else experienced this problem too? Does it need manual solving?
> 
> Thank you in advance, Clemens

Rawhide issues are discussed on fedora-test-list. See
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list

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Re: Pulseaudio config problem.

Erik P. Olsen wrote:
> On 25/08/09 03:20, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>> Dumb question - what do you get when you run "aplay -l"?
> 
>  List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
<[ SNIP ]>

That looks good. One other thing to check is the contents of
/etc/asound.conf. I ran into a problem with this file once where it
was pointing to the wrong device, messing up all sound.

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Re: Yum ??

Aaron Konstam wrote:
> That is sort of confusing . One would think that the file itself is the
> repo. This have confused me also for awhile. I am glad you cleared this
> up.

One benefit of this is that you can have more then one repo defined
in the same file. You could also list one or more repo in
/etc/yum.conf. You can get much more information by reading the
yum.conf man page.

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Re: New "feature" after recent "yum update"

2009-08-26 Thread Anne Wilson

On Wednesday 26 August 2009 16:22:17 Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Wednesday 26 August 2009 15:35:37 Steven P. Ulrick wrote:
> > > > Just to clarify, I have never seen this behavior on our Fedora 11
> > > > system.  It started IMMEDIATELY after the recent updates that pulled
> > > > KDE 4.3 in (I run KDE, by the way...)
> > > >
> > > > I have discovered quite a few new things so far after logging back in
> > > > after the recent updates.  All of them that I have seen so far I
> > > > really like.  This one I don't care for :)  I can see why it could be
> > > > a good idea, but I don't like the fact that I am now forced to
> > > > opt-out of this new (to me) feature instead of "opting-in"
> > > >
> > > > So my questions are as follows:
> > > > 1. Where do I change the appropriate setting so that I can get things
> > > > back to the way they were before the recent updates?
> > > > 2. If a new RPM was pulled in with these updates that caused this new
> > > > functionality, what is it's name?
> > > >
> > > > I will look for answers to these questions myself as well.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for any help you can give me.
> > >
> > > Not much, I'm afraid.  I've been using 4.3 for a few weeks now and
> > > never seen this behaviour.  You did re-start KDE, I see, but have you
> > > tried a reboot, in case there was something from the old system still
> > > running and causing a conflict?
> > >
> > > There are few things in Linux that require a reboot, but I always do
> > > one after a kernel change, and after major changes to KDE.
> >
> > Hello Anne
> > First of all, thank you for stepping in on an issue that you yourself
> > have not even seen yet.  That is well appreciated :)
> > After reading your reply, I rebooted and logged back in to KDE.  The
> > result is exactly the same as I described in my first email on this
> > subject.  The circle/exclamation mark DID NOT return to the applications
> > that had originally had it and that I had opened before the reboot.  That
> > is good :) Just for a test, I opened one the the applications that still
> > had the circle/exclamation point over the icon, and the behavior was just
> > like before the reboot: the application started immediately after I
> > clicked "Continue"
>
> If you can make a reasonably accurate guess as to what time you did this,
> can you please check your logs - see if anything there gives a clue?  It's
> very strange.
>
> > One cool difference that I see after the same set of updates the resulted
> > in the issue referred to in this thread is the change in the desktop
> > effect "Wobbly Windows"  The wobble doesn't stop after the window is no
> > longer being moved/resized.  It continues to wobble for a few moments... 
> > Pretty cool :)
>
> Since my laptop has a 4-year-old ATi display card I don't have much joy
> with desktop effects :-) so I haven't seen that either.
>
> > Anyway, I digress...
> >
> > Thanks again for  your help so far,
>
> Haven't actually helped much, have I?  Still, if you can find anything at
> all in the logs it would help us understand what happened.
>
Amazing how things crop up!  I've just come across this:

http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=77468&p=122035#p122035

Is it your thread, or just someone reached the same position as you?

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Re: Broken downloads of FC11-x86_64 and other disturbances

2009-08-26 Thread li...@funkster1


Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 12:49 +0200, li...@funkster1 wrote:

Ed Greshko wrote:

li...@funkster1 wrote:


*snip ...


Maybe you need to get a new burner. I burn DVDs at 12x with no problems
(the drive is rated at 16x). My drive is a 3 year-old LG.

poc



Yeah, that's quite possible, mine is a little older already as well.
It's an "LG HL DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B Firmware A105" rated at 16x,
like yours. Or maybe it's k3b, it's given me problems on more than one
occasion. I'll start another bit-torrent dl right now and I'll see tonight
how it goes.
Thanks for all your comments guys

Raphael ;)


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Re: F11: Fedora Eclipse: SVN fails to connect to any svn repository: Hangs.