Re: showing dependency trees
On 27/08/2009, Björn Persson bj...@xn--rombobjrn-67a.se wrote:
Jeff Spaleta wrote:
Are you suggesting that things are out of balance now?
[...]
Are you seriously suggesting expending the manpower at the
distribution level to poke at which functional calls need to broken
out into more libraries?
All I have suggested is that we should have a certain tool. Rahul Sundaram
described a way to check for unnecessary dependencies. I found that method
somewhat unwieldy
Well, I develop a debian distribution for my organisation and I often need
to confirm whether the packages in the repository are installable or not. I
use edos-debcheck. Here is a sample invocation.
deba...@deep-blue:/data/all/distros/deepofix-trunk/install_cd/deepofix/dists/doublethink/main/binary-i386$
edos-debcheck -failures -explain Packages
Parsing package file... 0.4 seconds 684 packages
Generating constraints... 0.2 seconds
libarchive-tar-perl (= 1.30-2): FAILED
The following constraints cannot be satisfied:
libarchive-tar-perl (= 1.30-2) conflicts with perl-modules (= 5.10.0-19)
libarchive-tar-perl (= 1.30-2) depends on perl (= 5.6.0-16) {perl (=
5.10.0-19)}
perl (= 5.10.0-19) depends on perl-modules (= 5.10.0-19) {perl-modules
(= 5.10.0-19)}
liblocale-maketext-simple-perl (= 0.12-2): FAILED
The following constraints cannot be satisfied:
liblocale-maketext-simple-perl (= 0.12-2) depends on
liblocale-maketext-lexicon-perl {liblocale-maketext-lexicon-perl (=
0.66-1)}
liblocale-maketext-simple-perl (= 0.12-2) conflicts with perl-modules (=
5.10.0-19)
liblocale-maketext-lexicon-perl (= 0.66-1) depends on
liblocale-maketext-perl {perl-modules (= 5.10.0-19)}
libssp0 (= 4.1.1-21): FAILED
The following constraints cannot be satisfied:
libssp0 (= 4.1.1-21) depends on gcc-4.1-base (= 4.1.1-21) {NOT AVAILABLE}
libversion-perl (= 0.6701-1): FAILED
The following constraints cannot be satisfied:
libversion-perl (= 0.6701-1) depends on perlapi-5.8.8 {NOT AVAILABLE}
Checking packages... 0.3 seconds
As you can see, it tells me which packages can not be installed due to
dependency failure. It takes the Packages file metadata and processes
it.
For your particular case, where you want to check dependency tress for
a particular package, I think that can be done too.
deba...@deep-blue:~$ edos-debcheck --help
Usage: edos-debcheck [OPTION]... [PACKAGE]...
Check whether the given packages can be installed. A binary package
control file is read from the standard input. The names (for instance,
'emacsen') of the packages to be tested should be given on the command
line. A specific version of a package can be selected by following
the package name with an equals and the version of the package to test
(for instance, 'xemacs21=21.4.17-1'). When no package name is provided,
all packages in the control file are tested.
Options:
-check Double-check the results
-explain Explain the results
-rules Print generated rules
-quiet do not emit warnings nor progress/timing info
-failures Only show failures
-successes Only show successes
-help Display this list of options
--help Display this list of options
Replace edos-debcheck with edos-rpmcheck.
There is also an apt-cache flag that generates visual dependency
graphs for a particular package.
dotty pkg(s)
dotty takes a list of packages on the command line and generates
output suitable for use by dotty from the GraphViz[1] package. The
result will be a set of nodes and edges representing the
relationships between the packages. By default the given packages
will trace out all dependent packages; this can produce a very
large graph. To limit the output to only the packages listed on the
command line, set the APT::Cache::GivenOnly option.
The resulting nodes will have several shapes; normal packages are
boxes, pure provides are triangles, mixed provides are diamonds,
missing packages are hexagons. Orange boxes mean recursion was
stopped [leaf packages], blue lines are pre-depends, green lines
are conflicts.
The above excerpt is from 'man apt-cache'. I am not sure if similar
facility is available in yum.
Caution, dotty cannot graph larger sets of packages.
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cpqarrayd for fedora 11 and 12
I have had to patch the code for cpqarrayd to get it working under Fedora 11. It was failing with a stack smashing exception. I have fixed this by replacing stack structures with dynamic allocation. Where should I send the patch ... the last development on this was in 2007 so it is probably not being maintained, although I will try to contact the author. Howard. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: F12 Alpha problems
Dne Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:24:39 -0500 Mike Chambers napsal(a): 2 - When trying to start the Appearance program, it starts but closes itself after a few seconds without being able to click on anything. Known: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519293 Michal -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: another spin of TeX Live 2009 packages
On Wednesday 26 August 2009 Jindrich Novy wrote: Hi, first off, thanks many people who sent me RFE and bugfix proposals. I've tried to fix most of them in the current package set in the testing repository: rpm -i http://jnovy.fedorapeople.org/texlive/texlive-release-2009-0.1.fc11.noarch. rpm Thanks, Jindrich Hi, I have tried to update and now most of the previous problems have been solved but there is a new type of problem that has appeared. I get lots of these: Error: Missing Dependency: texlive = 2009 is needed by package texlive- amsfonts-2009-3.0.14555.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-texconfig-bin = 2009 is needed by package texlive-texconfig-2009-13822.fc11.noarch (texlive) I send attached the full list that I get. -- José Abílio Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-dvipdfm-bin = 2009 is needed by package texlive-dvipdfm-2009-0.13.2d.14549.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive = 2009 is needed by package texlive-etex-2009-13530.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive = 2009 is needed by package texlive-metafont-2009-13822.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive = 2009 is needed by package texlive-geometry-2009-4.2.13293.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-kpathsea-bin = 2009 is needed by package texlive-babel-2009-3.8l.13530.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive = 2009 is needed by package texlive-mfware-2009-13822.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive = 2009 is needed by package texlive-texconfig-2009-13822.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-dvips = 2007-42.fc11 is needed by package texlive-utils-2007-42.fc11.i586 (installed) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive = 2009 is needed by package texlive-pdftex-2009-1.40.9.14549.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-kpathsea-bin = 2009 is needed by package texlive-ifluatex-2009-1.2.14365.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-kpathsea-bin = 2009 is needed by package texlive-glyphlist-2009-13293.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive = 2009 is needed by package texlive-ifluatex-2009-1.2.14365.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-kpathsea-bin = 2009 is needed by package texlive-texconfig-2009-13822.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-kpathsea-bin = 2009 is needed by package texlive-tetex-2009-3.0.14841.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive = 2009 is needed by package texlive-dvipdfmx-2009-14829.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive = 2009 is needed by package texlive-ifxetex-2009-0.5.13293.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive = 2009 is needed by package texlive-xdvi-2009-22.84.16.14545.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive = 2009 is needed by package texlive-hyperref-2009-6.78q.13530.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-tetex-bin = 2009 is needed by package texlive-amsfonts-2009-3.0.14555.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-kpathsea-bin = 2009 is needed by package texlive-psnfss-2009-9.2a.13822.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-kpathsea-bin = 2009 is needed by package texlive-amsrefs-2009-2.02.13530.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-kpathsea-bin = 2009 is needed by package texlive-tex-2009-13822.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-kpathsea-bin = 2009 is needed by package texlive-latex-2009-14246.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-kpathsea-bin = 2009 is needed by package texlive-luatex-2009-0.2.14210.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive = 2009 is needed by package texlive-plain-2009-3.141592653.14025.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive = 2009 is needed by package texlive-texlive.infra-2009-14857.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-kpathsea-bin = 2009 is needed by package texlive-etex-pkg-2009-2.0.13293.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive = 2009 is needed by package texlive-collection-latex-2009-14245.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive = 2009 is needed by package texlive-cm-2009-14055.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-kpathsea-bin = 2009 is needed by package texlive-ifxetex-2009-0.5.13293.fc11.noarch (texlive)
Re: F12 Alpha problems
On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 04:24 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: Couple problems I see that may or may not be known yet.. thanks for testing, Mike. Issue #1 sure looks like a straightforward bug, so please report it, if it hasn't been reported already. thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: another spin of TeX Live 2009 packages
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:40:25PM +0100, José Matos wrote: On Wednesday 26 August 2009 Jindrich Novy wrote: Hi, first off, thanks many people who sent me RFE and bugfix proposals. I've tried to fix most of them in the current package set in the testing repository: rpm -i http://jnovy.fedorapeople.org/texlive/texlive-release-2009-0.1.fc11.noarch. rpm Thanks, Jindrich Hi, I have tried to update and now most of the previous problems have been solved but there is a new type of problem that has appeared. I get lots of these: Error: Missing Dependency: texlive = 2009 is needed by package texlive- amsfonts-2009-3.0.14555.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-texconfig-bin = 2009 is needed by package texlive-texconfig-2009-13822.fc11.noarch (texlive) I send attached the full list that I get. It is likely caused by old metadata you have in the yum cache, or you were lucky to update just in the time I have been syncing the repository ;) Could you please yum clean all and try again? Jindrich -- José Abílio Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-dvipdfm-bin = 2009 is needed by package texlive-dvipdfm-2009-0.13.2d.14549.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive = 2009 is needed by package texlive-etex-2009-13530.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive = 2009 is needed by package texlive-metafont-2009-13822.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive = 2009 is needed by package texlive-geometry-2009-4.2.13293.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-kpathsea-bin = 2009 is needed by package texlive-babel-2009-3.8l.13530.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive = 2009 is needed by package texlive-mfware-2009-13822.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive = 2009 is needed by package texlive-texconfig-2009-13822.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-dvips = 2007-42.fc11 is needed by package texlive-utils-2007-42.fc11.i586 (installed) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive = 2009 is needed by package texlive-pdftex-2009-1.40.9.14549.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-kpathsea-bin = 2009 is needed by package texlive-ifluatex-2009-1.2.14365.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-kpathsea-bin = 2009 is needed by package texlive-glyphlist-2009-13293.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive = 2009 is needed by package texlive-ifluatex-2009-1.2.14365.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-kpathsea-bin = 2009 is needed by package texlive-texconfig-2009-13822.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-kpathsea-bin = 2009 is needed by package texlive-tetex-2009-3.0.14841.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive = 2009 is needed by package texlive-dvipdfmx-2009-14829.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive = 2009 is needed by package texlive-ifxetex-2009-0.5.13293.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive = 2009 is needed by package texlive-xdvi-2009-22.84.16.14545.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive = 2009 is needed by package texlive-hyperref-2009-6.78q.13530.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-tetex-bin = 2009 is needed by package texlive-amsfonts-2009-3.0.14555.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-kpathsea-bin = 2009 is needed by package texlive-psnfss-2009-9.2a.13822.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-kpathsea-bin = 2009 is needed by package texlive-amsrefs-2009-2.02.13530.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-kpathsea-bin = 2009 is needed by package texlive-tex-2009-13822.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-kpathsea-bin = 2009 is needed by package texlive-latex-2009-14246.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-kpathsea-bin = 2009 is needed by package texlive-luatex-2009-0.2.14210.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive = 2009 is needed by package texlive-plain-2009-3.141592653.14025.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive = 2009 is needed by package texlive-texlive.infra-2009-14857.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive-kpathsea-bin = 2009 is needed by package texlive-etex-pkg-2009-2.0.13293.fc11.noarch (texlive) Error: Missing Dependency: texlive = 2009 is needed by package
Re: another spin of TeX Live 2009 packages
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 02:09:59PM -0400, Neal Becker wrote: Error: Missing Dependency: tetex-fonts is needed by package a2ps-4.14-8.fc11.x86_64 (installed) Error: Missing Dependency: tetex = 3.0 is needed by package jadetex-3.13-5.fc11.noarch (installed) Error: Missing Dependency: tetex is needed by package texinfo- tex-4.13a-2.fc11.x86_64 (installed) Error: Missing Dependency: libkpathsea.so.4()(64bit) is needed by package evince-dvi-2.26.2-1.fc11.x86_64 (installed) Suggestions? I have succeessfully reproduced the a2ps problem and I'm still not sure about a solution. Installing texlive and a2ps in separate transactions worked for me fine without any depsolving problems. So you can use at least this workaround. Installation of jadetex should now be fixed now as well as texinfo-tex. The evince-dvi is unfortunately unfixable because it needs rebuild for the increased libkpathsea soname. Jindrich Jindrich Novy wrote: Hi, first off, thanks many people who sent me RFE and bugfix proposals. I've tried to fix most of them in the current package set in the testing repository: rpm -i http://jnovy.fedorapeople.org/texlive/texlive- release-2009-0.1.fc11.noarch.rpm If you use the older TeX Live 2009 packages, please reinstall them completely: yum remove texlive (and to be sure rm -rf /usr/share/texlive, due to ordering it could leave some directories there) yum clean all yum install texlive or other packages The reason for it is the following list of improvements: - binary packages do no more have the '.ARCH' postfix, the postfix changed to '-bin' - new font support add new 'fedora-fonts' packages which allows you to use TeX Live 2009 fonts (TrueType and OpenType for now) in Fedora - packages for TeX Live t1utils and psutils are no more built but dependencies to existing utilities in Fedora are added - kpathsea packages should now be correctly obsoleted. The lcdf-typetools dep errors you might see installing texlive-collection-fontutils is caused by the fact that lcdf-typetools in Fedora is linked against kpathsea libraries and TeX Live 2009 increases the soname so lcdf-typetools will work after rebuilt with the new kpathsea - fixed texlive-xetex conflict with older TL2007 packages - added older tetex-latex, etc. provides for compatibility (you are now able to install TL2009 together with R analysis package, etc.) - new packages should automatically clear /var/lib/texmf in %post scriptlets to avoid format incompatibilities I haven't added obsoletes to .ARCH packages to keep spes files readable and because TL2009 packages are not yet imported. The spec format should be final now. Only some font formats can be added or the Fedora font support updated for a bit. I will announce next repo updates here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talk:Features/TeXLive Thanks, Jindrich -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list -- Jindrich Novy jn...@redhat.com http://people.redhat.com/jnovy/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Page size pain / localisation / possible F13 feature
Hi everyone. Living in a European milieu I generally prefer my page sizes to be set to the likes of A4. One thing which keeps aggravating me is the myriad places where I keep having to repeat to the computer my preference. In Thunderbird and Firefox right now, if I open up 'Page Settings' it says 'US Letter'. The one and only printer I have only has A4 (and is set that way), and I've told Fedora in various places that I'm in the UK and speak British English. OOo somehow gets it right; potentially this is something I overrode at some point - I still have various letter-shaped documents and PDFs on my system. Clearly something is missing. /etc/papersize is empty, paperconf returns 'a4', /etc/libpaper.d is empty, the default printer is set to my A4 printer, 'locale' outputs lots of en_GB entries but $LC_PAPER isn't set. I've been through every Preference and Administrative menu option I can find which might be relevant, including a few which weren't, and I've no idea how all this stuff is supposed to be hooked up. If there is some overriding admin option, I've missed it (and the accompanying docs ;). This is a real pain point which could probably solved _really_ easily. There was a localisation feature proposed for F10: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/LocalePreferences ... that attempts to solve the more general issue (keyboard layouts etc., which have also bitten me - it's not very obvious at all how to set that stuff properly at the moment). Is there any additional interest (other than me!) for getting this feature back on its feet again for F13? Thanks! Alex. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: cpqarrayd for fedora 11 and 12
On 08/27/2009 06:02 AM, Howard Wilkinson wrote: I have had to patch the code for cpqarrayd to get it working under Fedora 11. It was failing with a stack smashing exception. I have fixed this by replacing stack structures with dynamic allocation. Where should I send the patch ... the last development on this was in 2007 so it is probably not being maintained, although I will try to contact the author. Congrats, you get to be maintainer (and possibly the only remaining user) of cpqarrayd. -- Peter I hope you know that this will go down on your permanent record. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
rawhide report: 20090827 changes
Compose started at Thu Aug 27 06:15:04 UTC 2009 New package gtkmm-utils C++ utility and widget library based on glibmm and gtkm New package network-manager-netbook Moblin Netbook GUI for NetworkManger New package perl-BZ-Client A client for the Bugzilla web services API New package pocketsphinx Real-time speech recognition Removed package hellanzb Updated Packages: Django-1.1-4.fc12 - * Wed Aug 26 2009 Steve 'Ashcrow' Milner ste...@gnulinux.net - 1.1-3 - ghosting admin py* is now FC9 and under. * Wed Aug 26 2009 Steve 'Ashcrow' Milner ste...@gnulinux.net - 1.1-4 - EL-4 shouldn't get the sphinx docs. ModemManager-0.2-3.20090826.fc12 * Wed Aug 26 2009 Dan Williams d...@redhat.com - 0.2-3.20090826 - Fixes for Motorola and Ericsson devices - Fixes for CDMA serving-system command parsing OpenSceneGraph-2.8.2-3.fc12 --- * Wed Aug 26 2009 Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org - 2.8.2-3 - Change Source0 URL (Upstream moved it once again). acpi-1.4-1.fc12 --- * Wed Aug 26 2009 Steven M. Parrish smparr...@gmail.com - 1.4-1 - fixed state information for thermal zones - added output of all trip points - straightlined old crufty user interface - fixed battery output to cope with systems giving energy values but no voltage acpitool-0.5.1-1.fc12 - * Wed Aug 26 2009 Steven M. Parrish smparr...@gmail.com 0.5.1-1 - various minor fixes (fixing memleaks, removing of limit on thermal zones) alexandria-0.6.5-5.fc12 --- * Thu Aug 27 2009 Mamoru Tasaka mtas...@ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp - 0.6.5-5 - Add sanity check for invalid search result, now using upstream patch - Fix DeaStore provider where search result contains no Author alsa-tools-1.0.20-4.fc12 * Wed Aug 26 2009 Tim Jackson r...@timj.co.uk - 1.0.20-4 - Add missing dep on xorg-x11-fonts-misc (#503284) anaconda-12.17-1.fc12 - * Wed Aug 26 2009 Chris Lumens clum...@redhat.com - 12.17-1 - dracut has initrd-generic-version instead of initrd-version (#519185) (hdegoede) - Do not try to commit disks changes to the os while partitions are in use (hdegoede) - disklabel.commit(): DeviceError - DeviceFormatError (hdegoede) - A partition having no partedPartition shouldn't be a traceback (#519128). (clumens) - Add some debugging code so we know what's going on for #504986 (katzj) - Fix going back in Inst. Method and Configure TCP/IP screens in stage 1 (#515450) (rvykydal) - Fix going back from stage1 nfs/url setup dialog. (rvykydal) - When bringing up network in UI, update only ifcfg file of selected device (#507084). (rvykydal) - Update Optional packages button via popup menu too (#515912). (rvykydal) - Remove the firstadkit-plugin-grub from non-grub archs (msivak) - Use the path instead of the name for the questionInitialize function. (#517926) (jgranado) - Only add rhgb quiet to boot args for non-serial installs (#506508, - On rpm unpack errors, display a fatal error message (#452724). (clumens) - Use tee thread to ensure line buffered output to screen and log file at the same moment... (#506664) (msivak) - Ensure libraries are copied to initrd.img for xauth (#516369) (maier) - Import shutil for upgrades (#519011). (clumens) - Fix focus grabbing on both the password and hostname screens. (clumens) - x86 and EFI platforms can now have /boot on ext4. (clumens) - Use the Platform's idea of what filesystem /boot can be on. (clumens) - zz-liveinst.sh: Restore the #! line (ajax) - Import _ped so it can be used for _ped.DiskLabelException. (pjones) - Make sure LV and VG names fit within LVM limits (#517483) (dcantrell) - Fix updates target to honor KEEP variable correctly. (dcantrell) - Add support for the reiserfs filesystem (#504401) (dcantrell) - Update instructions on how to generate source archive. (dcantrell) - Use disk.description instead of trying to access parted attrs. (#518212) (dlehman) - Fix disk.partedDisk - disk.format.partedDisk. (dlehman) - Fix a stupid typo in the logging. (clumens) - If modifying a repo fails, do not delete it (#516053). (clumens) - If repo setup fails, also make sure to delete it from yum. (clumens) - Allow configuring additional NFS repositories, not just the base. (clumens) - Consolidate base repo setup into an extra function. (clumens) - Allocate memory for login and password and do not meddle with host pointer so we can correctly free it (#483818) (msivak) - Run make in silent mode by default. (jgranado) - Allow creation of an updates image from a tag offset. (jgranado) augeas-0.5.2-3.fc12 --- * Tue Aug 25 2009 Matthew Booth mbo...@redhat.com - 0.5.2-3 - Include new xorg lens from upstream bash-4.0.28-2.fc12 -- * Wed Aug 26 2009 Roman Rakus rra...@redhat.com - 4.0.28-2 - alloc memory for key in creation associative array (#518644) boost-1.39.0-5.fc12 --- * Wed
Re: PolicyKit 0.9 is going away
On Thursday 27 August 2009 17:35:36 Kevin Kofler wrote: Jaroslav Reznik wrote: PolicyKit-KDE is now integral part of kdebase-workspace, it is a KDE 4.3 feature, we should disable it for now (untill we have new ported version). Same problem is with PolicyKit-Qt as my quick port breaks API. I'd like to prepare new PolicyKit-Qt, more powerful that actually matches PolicyKit Authority DBUS interface. It's quite a bad timing with switching to new PolicyKit. I'm not sure I'll have releasable version in time of beta, I'll try it but there's still question with API compatibility for KDE 4.3. There are no KDE apps utilizing PK-Qt now so I think it's not problem to do not ship it now. What do you think? System Settings uses it (well, 1 or 2 modules do). And PolicyKit integration is advertised as a KDE 4.3 feature by upstream and even our feature page. So I think just dropping it is not an option. I'd be willing to maintain PolicyKit 0.9 packages (as compatibility packages (though renaming should not be needed as they already have distinct names), to be used by KDE) for F12. It is my understanding that those will not conflict with PolicyKit 1 and can coexist just fine, if that's not the case, please correct me. So please don't obsolete PolicyKit 0.9! +1 for compat package! Kevin Kofler -- Jaroslav Řezník jrez...@redhat.com Associate Software Engineer - Base Operating Systems Brno Office: +420 532 294 275 Mobile: +420 731 455 332 Red Hat, Inc. http://cz.redhat.com/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: PolicyKit 0.9 is going away
Jaroslav Reznik wrote: PolicyKit-KDE is now integral part of kdebase-workspace, it is a KDE 4.3 feature, we should disable it for now (untill we have new ported version). Same problem is with PolicyKit-Qt as my quick port breaks API. I'd like to prepare new PolicyKit-Qt, more powerful that actually matches PolicyKit Authority DBUS interface. It's quite a bad timing with switching to new PolicyKit. I'm not sure I'll have releasable version in time of beta, I'll try it but there's still question with API compatibility for KDE 4.3. There are no KDE apps utilizing PK-Qt now so I think it's not problem to do not ship it now. What do you think? System Settings uses it (well, 1 or 2 modules do). And PolicyKit integration is advertised as a KDE 4.3 feature by upstream and even our feature page. So I think just dropping it is not an option. I'd be willing to maintain PolicyKit 0.9 packages (as compatibility packages (though renaming should not be needed as they already have distinct names), to be used by KDE) for F12. It is my understanding that those will not conflict with PolicyKit 1 and can coexist just fine, if that's not the case, please correct me. So please don't obsolete PolicyKit 0.9! Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: gwenview - Re: Orphaning packages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Woehlke wrote: Kevin Kofler wrote: RAM size, There is something wrong with having 1 G of RAM? If so, I haven't yet experienced it. (And that number is only going to go up...) I actually discovered recently that the desktop at home has a bad RAM stick and it's running KDE 4.2/4.3 fine from 512MB, so 1GB is still in excess of baseline use. My setup would exhaust that (though 1GB would still work until X eats it all), but for the family it works fine. - --Ben -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkqWslAACgkQiPi+MRHG3qQyxgCfX5j48cche8XJtp7Ot6821AU+ IWkAoLcrkwYCywJQLeOAW7fApmxtC+Tf =JFYP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: showing dependency trees
Debayan Banerjee wrote: Well, I develop a debian distribution for my organisation and I often need to confirm whether the packages in the repository are installable or not. I use edos-debcheck. Here is a sample invocation. How we do this in Fedora is that we just run yum install pkgname and then say no when asked whether to confirm the installation. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
rawhide LiveCD with EFI boot?
Hi All, I have a little touch screen device that I'm playing around with. It has EFI and its easy enough to get it to boot something other than what its meant to. It seems the LiveCD doesn't have EFI support there. Any hints welcome. Cheers, Peter -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: showing dependency trees
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009, Kevin Kofler wrote: Debayan Banerjee wrote: Well, I develop a debian distribution for my organisation and I often need to confirm whether the packages in the repository are installable or not. I use edos-debcheck. Here is a sample invocation. How we do this in Fedora is that we just run yum install pkgname and then say no when asked whether to confirm the installation. well - no - that only works if you do it to an empty chroot. doing it locally only verifies that you have the bits on your local system. -sv -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: ktorrent adds kdm - Re: Orphaning packages
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:14:43 -0400, Ben wrote: [KDE X session file] So your issue is that kdebase-workspace puts it there, but it's not complete, so it shouldn't? Well, in case installing ktorrent shall drag in the packages for a complete KDE desktop, the current dependencies are incomplete. Some packages are missing. Alternatively, ktorrent shall drag in only what's really needed. Would be tons better for the Install KDE app on GNOME desktop scenario. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: ktorrent adds kdm - Re: Orphaning packages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Schwendt wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:01:39 -0400, Ben wrote: Oh dear, run for your lives. Last I used GDM, I didn't know where to change the session type (I was looking). I haven't used it in over a year since it's one of the first things to get replaced on my systems. Looking at a screenshot with solar[1] I see a restart, a shutdown, a power, and an accessibility button. Nothing about sessions. Certainly not visible at least. So I fail to see why this would be any issue at all. What am I missing? Users, who discover what software is being offered, who know how to switch the session type, and who will notice that the installed KDE is incomplete. As if the admin had messed it up. Customising the personal desktop and choosing between either GNOME or KDE is one of the first things many users do. They even go as far as replacing the window manager, if alternative wm are available. So your issue is that kdebase-workspace puts it there, but it's not complete, so it shouldn't? Do you have a better package in which to add the session type? As for WMs, Compiz and Metacity are missing things such as rules for specific windows (can lock size or position, hide it from the taskbar, shortcut to set focus, etc). For better or worse, KWin is really indispensable for my setup. Even if I used some other DE, kwin would probably end up being used. On your fully private machine(s) it may not be an issue at all, I agree. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkqWsPMACgkQiPi+MRHG3qRiXgCfZ13vNOrwVhMcYPV8pJr0xF0F jvMAoKDnrCceSFzLevzYDtuR5SAyJOGM =GVie -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: another spin of TeX Live 2009 packages
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:02:18 +0200 Jindrich Novy jn...@redhat.com wrote: JN - kpathsea packages should now be correctly obsoleted. The JN lcdf-typetools dep errors you might see installing JN texlive-collection-fontutils is caused by the fact that JN lcdf-typetools in Fedora is linked against kpathsea libraries and JN TeX Live 2009 increases the soname so lcdf-typetools will work JN after rebuilt with the new kpathsea Trying to do an update on F11 (586) today. It still caused: dvipdfm-0.13.2d-40.fc11.i586 von installed hat Abhängigkeitsauflöse-Probleme -- Fehlende Abhängigkeit: libkpathsea.so.4 wird benötigt von Paket dvipdfm-0.13.2d-40.fc11.i586 (installed) Fehler: Fehlende Abhängigkeit: libkpathsea.so.4 wird benötigt von Paket dvipdfm-0.13.2d-40.fc11.i586 (installed) (sorry for the German) So dvipdfm seems not to be obsoleted by texlive-dvipdfm... Stefan -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Page size pain / localisation / possible F13 feature
Alex Hudson wrote: Living in a European milieu I generally prefer my page sizes to be set to the likes of A4. One thing which keeps aggravating me is the myriad places where I keep having to repeat to the computer my preference. And then in Publican, you get A4 and it is a major pain to switch to letter. If you want something that isn't approximately A4 sized it gets to be a full-blown project. Do we even have an inventory of places where page size matters? And then, are those that get it right actually using some standard source, or do they simply use a different default? --McD -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Policy on removing %changelog entries?
What is the policy regarding deletion of individual entries in the middle of %changelog? A developer added a %changelog entry to each of my cloud daemons' packages, on the main fedora-cvs devel branch of each. Then, a day or so later, after other %changelog entries had been added by me... the same developer removed one %changelog entry from the middle of %changelog, and added another entry at the top. I thought the policy was to never delete %changelog entries, ever? Jeff -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Policy on removing %changelog entries?
On 08/27/2009 01:21 PM, Jeff Garzik wrote: What is the policy regarding deletion of individual entries in the middle of %changelog? A developer added a %changelog entry to each of my cloud daemons' packages, on the main fedora-cvs devel branch of each. Then, a day or so later, after other %changelog entries had been added by me... the same developer removed one %changelog entry from the middle of %changelog, and added another entry at the top. I thought the policy was to never delete %changelog entries, ever? Yeah, you really shouldn't delete %changelog entries. The only reasonable exception is that if you wanted to archive really old entries to keep the spec file small, I think that has been done in the past. ~spot -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Page size pain / localisation / possible F13 feature
On 08/27/2009 12:11 PM, John J. McDonough wrote: Alex Hudson wrote: Living in a European milieu I generally prefer my page sizes to be set to the likes of A4. One thing which keeps aggravating me is the myriad places where I keep having to repeat to the computer my preference. And then in Publican, you get A4 and it is a major pain to switch to letter. If you want something that isn't approximately A4 sized it gets to be a full-blown project. Do we even have an inventory of places where page size matters? And then, are those that get it right actually using some standard source, or do they simply use a different default? A great first step would be to go make a list of the applications included on the Desktop spin that support printing, and identify how it configures its settings. That data might make it clear what the system default should be, and efforts could then be made to patch the other applications to use it. ~spot -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: dhclient and dhcp update require restart?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 26 Aug 2009, Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: Hi, something that bothers me a bit... More and more system restart requests with each update (even if one doesn't use the package at the time). Is this necessary for dhclient and dhcp update packages to require restart? Wouldn't service network restart and service dhcpd restart in the install/upgrade scripts do the trick (after checking that the service is actually running)? Ssh used to do that since, well, as far as I remember. Yes, 'service dhcpd restart' will work fine for dhcpd. For dhclient, it's not necessarily as simple as restarting the network service. If you are using the network service, that will work fine. If you are using NetworkManager, you'll need to either restart NetworkManager or have it down the connection you're using dhclient on and bring it back up. For any of these scenarios, I figure most technical users will know what to do. When I select the 'suggest reboot' box in the updates system, I'm thinking of the non-technical users. Both dhcpd and dhclient would be things brought up on boot, so suggesting a reboot to the user is the easiest way to get the correct services restarted. - -- David Cantrell dcantr...@redhat.com Red Hat / Honolulu, HI -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkqWxw0ACgkQ5hsjjIy1VknDsgCfasl1AnpQ74vKT/ZTK8l2WU6b CUAAoMKxJloW1IEiRGIVC9lRPLUYW/+C =Kqzr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: gwenview - Re: Orphaning packages
25.08.2009 02:07, Kevin Kofler wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: A quick way to actually check for such dependencies is to switch to another desktop environment, say Xfce, remove all the KDE packages and install one of the KDE apps. It usually reveals dependencies which are rather silly. I have seen kde-settings, background packages and kdebase pull in odd dependencies on occasions. k3b, ktorrent, scribus et all are often used outside KDE. It's not like those dependencies bite. ;-) HDD space is cheap. This is incorrect question setup. HDD space not always cheap. This may be very expensive, f.e. on embedded systems, on USB-stick, Live-CD images... Additionally it additional bandwidth on updates, which cost often is more significant. But at end, main point for me what it is incorrect. This is very monolithic, small user chose to manipulation, big and, as showed before, often produce additional errors (dependency and others). So, I do not call fanatic split all what we can find, but if we can reasonably (ok, I do not want question and define it as at least anything see in that sense) provide program separately - why you argue with that? At and, we see there discussion about big packages, and some arguments why it is not problem. But what main arguments to do NOT split some thus packages on few? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: rawhide LiveCD with EFI boot?
On 08/27/2009 12:21 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: Hi All, I have a little touch screen device that I'm playing around with. It has EFI and its easy enough to get it to boot something other than what its meant to. It seems the LiveCD doesn't have EFI support there. Any hints welcome. Right now, because of known problems with some older BIOSes, only the boot.iso contains multiple boot images. -- Peter Obviously, a major malfunction has occurred. -- Steve Nesbitt, voice of Mission Control, January 28, 1986 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Policy on removing %changelog entries?
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 01:36:26PM -0400, Tom spot Callaway wrote: On 08/27/2009 01:21 PM, Jeff Garzik wrote: What is the policy regarding deletion of individual entries in the middle of %changelog? A developer added a %changelog entry to each of my cloud daemons' packages, on the main fedora-cvs devel branch of each. Then, a day or so later, after other %changelog entries had been added by me... the same developer removed one %changelog entry from the middle of %changelog, and added another entry at the top. I thought the policy was to never delete %changelog entries, ever? Yeah, you really shouldn't delete %changelog entries. The only reasonable exception is that if you wanted to archive really old entries to keep the spec file small, I think that has been done in the past. We generally cull the kernel.spec once per release, because that thing grows to ridiculous length. For any kind of archaeology, hitting up the cvs server will tell you a lot more than the specfile will anyway. Dave -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Page size pain / localisation / possible F13 feature
On 27/08/09 18:40, Tom spot Callaway wrote: On 08/27/2009 12:11 PM, John J. McDonough wrote: Do we even have an inventory of places where page size matters? And then, are those that get it right actually using some standard source, or do they simply use a different default? A great first step would be to go make a list of the applications included on the Desktop spin that support printing, and identify how it configures its settings. That data might make it clear what the system default should be, and efforts could then be made to patch the other applications to use it. I think that's a brilliant idea. I'll undertake to do this in the next couple of weeks - I'll work on the F12 set first, because obviously that's going to be very similar to F13 anyway. Am I ok to re-activate the localisation feature for F13, or should I be starting a new feature for this? Thanks Alex. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Page size pain / localisation / possible F13 feature
On 08/27/2009 02:18 PM, Alex Hudson wrote: I think that's a brilliant idea. I'll undertake to do this in the next couple of weeks - I'll work on the F12 set first, because obviously that's going to be very similar to F13 anyway. Am I ok to re-activate the localisation feature for F13, or should I be starting a new feature for this? Either way seems fine, although, if you reuse the old feature, you may want to narrow the focus around printing for the F13 release to keep your sanity. :) ~spot -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Need help with stack smash
I'm trying to debug a stack smash in of the hdf test programs but am having a hard time tracking down exactly where the smash happens. Is there any way to watch the guard variable with gdb to find exactly when it happens? Something similar? Thanks! -- Orion Poplawski Technical Manager 303-415-9701 x222 NWRA/CoRA DivisionFAX: 303-415-9702 3380 Mitchell Lane or...@cora.nwra.com Boulder, CO 80301 http://www.cora.nwra.com -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Need help with stack smash
On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 12:36 -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote: I'm trying to debug a stack smash in of the hdf test programs but am having a hard time tracking down exactly where the smash happens. Is there any way to watch the guard variable with gdb to find exactly when it happens? Something similar? (gdb) help watch Set a watchpoint for an expression. A watchpoint stops execution of your program whenever the value of an expression changes. Note that this means what it says: if your expression contains a symbol that goes out of scope before the change happens, then the watchpoint will be forgotten, because the value of the expression will change from being a value to being not-a-thing. So you would need to set the watch on the address in memory of what you're trying to watch, and not necessarily on its symbolic name. - ajax signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Policy on removing %changelog entries?
On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 13:36 -0400, Tom spot Callaway wrote: On 08/27/2009 01:21 PM, Jeff Garzik wrote: What is the policy regarding deletion of individual entries in the middle of %changelog? A developer added a %changelog entry to each of my cloud daemons' packages, on the main fedora-cvs devel branch of each. Then, a day or so later, after other %changelog entries had been added by me... the same developer removed one %changelog entry from the middle of %changelog, and added another entry at the top. I thought the policy was to never delete %changelog entries, ever? Yeah, you really shouldn't delete %changelog entries. The only reasonable exception is that if you wanted to archive really old entries to keep the spec file small, I think that has been done in the past. I do occasionally clobber the changelog entry for a given EVR if it fails to build, since from the koji-output perspective, you can't tell the difference. Changing other things is impolite though. - ajax signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Page size pain / localisation / possible F13 feature
On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 13:40 -0400, Tom spot Callaway wrote: A great first step would be to go make a list of the applications included on the Desktop spin that support printing, and identify how it configures its settings. That data might make it clear what the system default should be, and efforts could then be made to patch the other applications to use it. Here's my notes on how I've implemented this in OpenOffice.org to determine the correct paper size, i.e http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/DefaultPaperSize i.e. default paper size comes from in order of priority. a) paperconf output b) LC_PAPER setting c) A4 unless LC_MESSAGES matches one the locales listed in CLDR as using LETTER paper I'm no great fan of paperconf, and I'm not suggesting its use here. It's used in the Debian world quite a bit as their primary mechanism for controlling this hence the priority ordering above, and it has ended up in the fedora repos as well. But in the Fedora world I personally rather see it as a no-op (and we don't have config tools which write to its config files anyway). So I supplied a patch some time ago which is used in the fedora paperconf/libpaper to make it take it's un-configured default papersize from LC_PAPER making it basically a pass-through affair. So, all in all, I say we should be using LC_PAPER as the default paper size when that's all an application needs to know (but if something is already using paperconf then that's fine too as it'll just work). That's the current situation for OpenOffice.org and GTK and anything that happens to use libpaper/paperconf so that's a good solid basis IMO. As to what territory uses what paper. I dug out various OOo bugs filed over the years and complaints around the web about my country is given the wrong paper size and a quick survey on this list and submitted those results to CLDR, and CLDR 1.7 has accepted these modifications. I've also filed a patch (maybe integrated into F-12 already ?, need to check that) to get glibc to agree with the new CLDR 1.7 as to the territories which use Letter paper size. All of which conveniently pushes any arguments about who really uses what paper size down the stack to glibc and cldr.unicode.org and away from the apps themselves :-) From my perspective all that's really missing is the suggested review of packages to find ones that aren't using something that's eventually backed by LC_PAPER to set their default paper size and then a nice LANGUAGE/LC_* settings GUI to allow tweaking the individual settings in a way that makes sense, i.e. the major hole that people fall into is I want my UI in English because my language translations are terrible, or because I find English a more natural computing language, so I selected a US English locale, This sucks, my paper is Letter, my dates are weird MM/DD/, my currency is a dollar, and my decimal separator is ., and spending their life battling their applications tweaking each one individually to do what they want. C. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Need help with stack smash
On 08/27/2009 01:42 PM, Roland McGrath wrote: Note that this means what it says: if your expression contains a symbol that goes out of scope before the change happens, then the watchpoint will be forgotten, because the value of the expression will change from being a value to being not-a-thing. So you would need to set the watch on the address in memory of what you're trying to watch, and not necessarily on its symbolic name. Indeed. Usually the convenient thing to do is: (gdb) pfoo-bar $22 = (int *) 0x12345 (gdb) watch *$22 Thanks, but my trouble though is what to watch. My thought was to watch the location of the guard variable that the stack protector code checks, but I have no idea how to find that out. -- Orion Poplawski Technical Manager 303-415-9701 x222 NWRA/CoRA DivisionFAX: 303-415-9702 3380 Mitchell Lane or...@cora.nwra.com Boulder, CO 80301 http://www.cora.nwra.com -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Need help with stack smash
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Orion Poplawskior...@cora.nwra.com wrote: Thanks, but my trouble though is what to watch. My thought was to watch the location of the guard variable that the stack protector code checks, but I have no idea how to find that out. -- Orion Poplawski Technical Manager 303-415-9701 x222 NWRA/CoRA Division FAX: 303-415-9702 3380 Mitchell Lane or...@cora.nwra.com Boulder, CO 80301 http://www.cora.nwra.com When I can't determine when a program first goes wrong, and when I can put up with a big execution slowdown, I run the code with valgrind --db-attach=yes. That doesn't always reveal the cause, but it does quite often. -- Jerry James http://www.jamezone.org/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Need help with stack smash
On 08/27/2009 02:26 PM, Jerry James wrote: When I can't determine when a program first goes wrong, and when I can put up with a big execution slowdown, I run the code with valgrind --db-attach=yes. That doesn't always reveal the cause, but it does quite often. Funnily enough, it runs fine under valgrind (or at least past the point where it crashed before. -- Orion Poplawski Technical Manager 303-415-9701 x222 NWRA/CoRA DivisionFAX: 303-415-9702 3380 Mitchell Lane or...@cora.nwra.com Boulder, CO 80301 http://www.cora.nwra.com -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Need help with stack smash
On 08/27/2009 01:59 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: Thanks, but my trouble though is what to watch. My thought was to watch the location of the guard variable that the stack protector code checks, but I have no idea how to find that out. By looking at the disassembly of the funtcion, I'm able to see the stack check code at the end: 0x08058f39 an_check_lab_desc+553: mov-0x1c(%ebp),%eax 0x08058f3c an_check_lab_desc+556: xor%gs:0x14,%eax 0x08058f43 an_check_lab_desc+563: jne0x8058f50 an_check_lab_desc+576 so it's watching %ebp - 0x1c (it appears). (gdb) print $ebp - 0x1c $1 = (PTR TO - ( void )) 0xbfffcb5c (gdb) watch *(0xbfffcb5c) Hardware watchpoint 2: *(0xbfffcb5c) (gdb) c Continuing. Hardware watchpoint 2: *(0xbfffcb5c) Old value = -987698962 New value = -987699200 DFANIgetann (filename=0x8125d10 tdfanF.hdf, tag=value optimized out, ref=value optimized out, ann=0xbfffcb3e Object label #1: sds , maxlen=31, type=0) at dfan.c:1103 1103 Lastref = annref; /* remember ref last accessed */ Current language: auto; currently c (gdb) list 1098 HCLOSE_GOTO_ERROR(file_id,DFE_READERROR,FAIL); 1099} 1100 if (type == DFAN_LABEL) 1101ann[annlen] = '\0'; /* terminate string properly */ 1102 1103 Lastref = annref; /* remember ref last accessed */ (gdb) print ann[annlen] $7 = (uint8 *) 0xbfffcb5c So that's where I get clobbered. Need to figure out why, but at least I solved the watch location question. -- Orion Poplawski Technical Manager 303-415-9701 x222 NWRA/CoRA DivisionFAX: 303-415-9702 3380 Mitchell Lane or...@cora.nwra.com Boulder, CO 80301 http://www.cora.nwra.com -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: dhclient and dhcp update require restart?
Dariusz J. Garbowski wrote: Hi, something that bothers me a bit... More and more system restart requests with each update (even if one doesn't use the package at the time). This is a real shame. One of the selling points of Linux is that you *don't* need to reboot for every little upgrade (unlike a certain other OS I shan't name). Is this necessary for dhclient and dhcp update packages to require restart? Wouldn't service network restart and service dhcpd restart in the install/upgrade scripts do the trick (after checking that the service is actually running)? Ssh used to do that since, well, as far as I remember. Yes, please. Though maybe with prompting; we shouldn't go restarting possibly-critical services without good warning. As David said, for dhcpd, 'service restart dhcpd' should be fine. For dhclient I would question why /any/ restart is needed. If your dhcp connection is currently established, is dhclient even running? And even if it is, what benefit do you get cycling the interface /now/, if the new dhclient takes over whenever the interface cycles anyway? -- Matthew Please do not quote my e-mail address unobfuscated in message bodies. -- For great justice!! -- Captain (Zero Wing) -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Page size pain / localisation / possible F13 feature
Caolán McNamara wrote: From my perspective all that's really missing is the suggested review of packages to find ones that aren't using something that's eventually backed by LC_PAPER to set their default paper size and then a nice LANGUAGE/LC_* settings GUI to allow tweaking the individual settings in a way that makes sense, i.e. the major hole that people fall into is I want my UI in English because my language translations are terrible, or because I find English a more natural computing language, so I selected a US English locale, This sucks, my paper is Letter, my dates are weird MM/DD/, my currency is a dollar, and my decimal separator is ., and spending their life battling their applications tweaking each one individually to do what they want. Maybe we just need an en_INTL locale which defaults to US English translations, but ISO standards everywhere else (ISO -mm-dd dates, ISO A4 paper, metric units etc.)? (Currency would be a problem though, default to €? $? The generic currency sign ¤ almost nobody actually uses? Or something silly like %f bucks? ;-) ) Such a locale might even become the default (though it'd irritate US folks ;-) ). I think it'd cover the needs of most of the non-US users of en_US, and details could still be overidden where needed. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Page size pain / localisation / possible F13 feature
Kevin Kofler wrote: Maybe we just need an en_INTL locale which defaults to US English translations, but ISO standards everywhere else (ISO -mm-dd dates, ISO A4 paper, metric units etc.)? (Currency would be a problem though, default to €? $? The generic currency sign ¤ almost nobody actually uses? Or something silly like %f bucks? ;-) ) Such a locale might even become the default (though it'd irritate US folks ;-) ). I think it'd cover the needs of most of the non-US users of en_US, and details could still be overidden where needed. :-) I don't think that will happen but it's fun to think of. Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Need help with stack smash
So that's where I get clobbered. Need to figure out why, but at least I solved the watch location question. Yes. Sorry I disappeared there for a bit talking to compiler people about whether there is a method other than reading the disassembly to find it. I think there isn't, but I'll see what we can do about making one. Thanks, Roland -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Firefox addon for Fedora-pkgdb search
Oops...I think I screwed up a bit again. I've already prepared a pkgdb open search plugin a few months ago but did not publish/announce it:((( (I run of time, wanted to review it again, but should have done it nevertheless) You can try it from here: http://mjakubicek.fedorapeople.org/pkgdb/ It implements also the suggestions based on a local cache of packages. As it currently runs on one of my very old machines with unreliable connection, the suggestions might not work properly as they might time out. I've also copied all my scripts to the above link now: makePkgCache.py -- queries pkgdb for a package list and updates local cache, should be croned every day or so search.py -- performs a search in such a way that if the searched package name is a full match of existing package, it displays the proper pkgdb page, otherwise it performs a search among existing packages. suggest.py -- responds for suggestions pkgcache.py -- local cache I'm very very sorry for this as I'm sure that I've partially invalidated my/your/both work, which is just bad:( Could you try to merge my and your work somehow? I'd be glad if you would do this and keep an eye of this feature so that it will land on pkgdb's pages sooner or later. Thanks in advance! Milos Dne 19.8.2009 15:35, Adam Miller napsal(a): Hello all, I decided posting this to the devel-list would be most appropriate because I assume it to be the crowd who would put something like this to use (but I could be wrong). I threw together a little Firefox AddOn that adds the pkgdb as a search option and then spoke with Máirín Duffy about a logo and she was nice enough to put together one awesome logo for the addon (thanks again for that!). I'm also in discussion with Luke Macken about making something similar except for Fedora Community, more on that once it comes to life but in the mean time, enjoy! https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/13710 Thanks, -Adam P.S. - If this was the wrong list to post to, many apologies and I'm open to suggestion on where to shoot info like this :) -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: F12 Alpha problems
On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 04:24 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: Couple problems I see that may or may not be known yet.. 1 - Evolution won't accept the restore option (using the evolution-backup.tar.gz) when first started. Keeps starting over (the initial setup menu) after it tries to restore the settings. Also it seems that if you have filters installed and one of them is to a missing folder or something, evo will stop processing filters when it runs into it and won't bypass it and continue on. Filed the bug below.. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520013 -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Plan for tomorrow's (20090828) FESCo meeting
The following is a list of topics to be discussed at tomorrow's FESCo meeting, at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net 246 Request to become provenpackager - tbzatek 243 New entry of 'Build packages for which Fedora is upstream for all language translators' review correction' for F12 schedule 247 Request for Proven Packager for Bruno Wolff III (bruno) 238 Can libvdpau go in Fedora? For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
[Bug 520040] New: [kn_IN] Need fontconfig rules for Lohit Kannada font
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: [kn_IN] Need fontconfig rules for Lohit Kannada font https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520040 Summary: [kn_IN] Need fontconfig rules for Lohit Kannada font Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: medium Priority: low Component: lohit-fonts AssignedTo: psatp...@redhat.com ReportedBy: pnem...@redhat.com QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org CC: peter...@redhat.com, pnem...@redhat.com, fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com, psatp...@redhat.com, fedora-i18n-b...@redhat.com Classification: Fedora Target Release: --- Description of problem: Need to add fontspecific fontconfig rule file. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): lohit-fonts-2.4.1-1.fc12 How reproducible: always Steps to Reproduce: 1. 2. 3. Actual results: No fontconfig rule for Kannada font Expected results: Should have fontconfig rule for Kannada font Additional info: -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 520035] New: [as_IN] Need fontconfig rules for Lohit Assamese font
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: [as_IN] Need fontconfig rules for Lohit Assamese font https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520035 Summary: [as_IN] Need fontconfig rules for Lohit Assamese font Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: medium Priority: low Component: lohit-fonts AssignedTo: psatp...@redhat.com ReportedBy: pnem...@redhat.com QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org CC: peter...@redhat.com, pnem...@redhat.com, fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com, psatp...@redhat.com, fedora-i18n-b...@redhat.com Classification: Fedora Target Release: --- Description of problem: Need to add fontspecific fontconfig rule file. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): lohit-fonts-2.4.1-1.fc12 How reproducible: always Steps to Reproduce: 1. 2. 3. Actual results: No fontconfig rule for Assamese font Expected results: Should have fontconfig rule for Assamese font Additional info: -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 520034] New: [mai_IN] Need fontconfig rules for Lohit Maithili font
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: [mai_IN] Need fontconfig rules for Lohit Maithili font https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520034 Summary: [mai_IN] Need fontconfig rules for Lohit Maithili font Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: medium Priority: low Component: lohit-fonts AssignedTo: psatp...@redhat.com ReportedBy: pnem...@redhat.com QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org CC: peter...@redhat.com, pnem...@redhat.com, fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com, psatp...@redhat.com, fedora-i18n-b...@redhat.com Classification: Fedora Target Release: --- Description of problem: Need to add fontspecific fontconfig rule file. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): lohit-fonts-2.4.1-1.fc12 How reproducible: always Steps to Reproduce: 1. 2. 3. Actual results: No fontconfig rule for Maithili font Expected results: Should have fontconfig rule for Maithili font Additional info: -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 520033] New: [mr_IN] Need fontconfig rules for Lohit Marathi font
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: [mr_IN] Need fontconfig rules for Lohit Marathi font https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520033 Summary: [mr_IN] Need fontconfig rules for Lohit Marathi font Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: medium Priority: low Component: lohit-fonts AssignedTo: psatp...@redhat.com ReportedBy: pnem...@redhat.com QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org CC: peter...@redhat.com, pnem...@redhat.com, fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com, psatp...@redhat.com, fedora-i18n-b...@redhat.com Classification: Fedora Target Release: --- Description of problem: Need to add fontspecific fontconfig rule file. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): lohit-fonts-2.4.1-1.fc12 How reproducible: always Steps to Reproduce: 1. 2. 3. Actual results: No fontconfig rule for Marathi font Expected results: Should have fontconfig rule for Marathi font Additional info: -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 520041] New: [ml_IN] Need fontconfig rules for Lohit Malayalam font
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: [ml_IN] Need fontconfig rules for Lohit Malayalam font https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520041 Summary: [ml_IN] Need fontconfig rules for Lohit Malayalam font Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: medium Priority: low Component: lohit-fonts AssignedTo: psatp...@redhat.com ReportedBy: pnem...@redhat.com QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org CC: peter...@redhat.com, pnem...@redhat.com, fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com, psatp...@redhat.com, fedora-i18n-b...@redhat.com Classification: Fedora Target Release: --- Description of problem: Need to add fontspecific fontconfig rule file. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): lohit-fonts-2.4.1-1.fc12 How reproducible: always Steps to Reproduce: 1. 2. 3. Actual results: No fontconfig rule for Malayalam font Expected results: Should have fontconfig rule for Malayalam font Additional info: -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 520037] New: [sd...@devanagari] ]Need fontconfig rules for Lohit Sindhi font
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: [sd...@devanagari] ]Need fontconfig rules for Lohit Sindhi font https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520037 Summary: [sd...@devanagari] ]Need fontconfig rules for Lohit Sindhi font Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: medium Priority: low Component: lohit-fonts AssignedTo: psatp...@redhat.com ReportedBy: pnem...@redhat.com QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org CC: peter...@redhat.com, pnem...@redhat.com, fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com, psatp...@redhat.com, fedora-i18n-b...@redhat.com Classification: Fedora Target Release: --- Description of problem: Need to add fontspecific fontconfig rule file. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): lohit-fonts-2.4.1-1.fc12 How reproducible: always Steps to Reproduce: 1. 2. 3. Actual results: No fontconfig rule for Sindhi (Devanagari) font Expected results: Should have fontconfig rule for Sindhi (Devanagari) font Additional info: -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 520039] New: [gu_IN] Need fontconfig rules for Lohit Gujarati font
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: [gu_IN] Need fontconfig rules for Lohit Gujarati font https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520039 Summary: [gu_IN] Need fontconfig rules for Lohit Gujarati font Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: medium Priority: low Component: lohit-fonts AssignedTo: psatp...@redhat.com ReportedBy: pnem...@redhat.com QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org CC: peter...@redhat.com, pnem...@redhat.com, fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com, psatp...@redhat.com, fedora-i18n-b...@redhat.com Classification: Fedora Target Release: --- Description of problem: Need to add fontspecific fontconfig rule file. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): lohit-fonts-2.4.1-1.fc12 How reproducible: always Steps to Reproduce: 1. 2. 3. Actual results: No fontconfig rule for Gujarati font Expected results: Should have fontconfig rule for Gujarati font Additional info: -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 520036] New: [ks...@devanagari] Need fontconfig rules for Lohit Kashmiri font
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: [ks...@devanagari] Need fontconfig rules for Lohit Kashmiri font https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520036 Summary: [ks...@devanagari] Need fontconfig rules for Lohit Kashmiri font Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: medium Priority: low Component: lohit-fonts AssignedTo: psatp...@redhat.com ReportedBy: pnem...@redhat.com QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org CC: peter...@redhat.com, pnem...@redhat.com, fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com, psatp...@redhat.com, fedora-i18n-b...@redhat.com Classification: Fedora Target Release: --- Description of problem: Need to add fontspecific fontconfig rule file. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): lohit-fonts-2.4.1-1.fc12 How reproducible: always Steps to Reproduce: 1. 2. 3. Actual results: No fontconfig rule for Kashmiri (Devanagari) font Expected results: Should have fontconfig rule for Kashmiri (Devanagari) font Additional info: -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
rpms/libfontenc/devel .cvsignore, 1.10, 1.11 libfontenc.spec, 1.28, 1.29 sources, 1.10, 1.11
Author: whot
Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/libfontenc/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv14661
Modified Files:
.cvsignore libfontenc.spec sources
Log Message:
* Fri Aug 28 2009 Peter Hutterer peter.hutte...@redhat.com 1.0.5-1
- libfontenc 1.0.5
Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/libfontenc/devel/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.10
retrieving revision 1.11
diff -u -p -r1.10 -r1.11
--- .cvsignore 6 Jan 2007 04:18:39 - 1.10
+++ .cvsignore 28 Aug 2009 05:54:36 - 1.11
@@ -1 +1 @@
-libfontenc-1.0.4.tar.bz2
+libfontenc-1.0.5.tar.bz2
Index: libfontenc.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/libfontenc/devel/libfontenc.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.28
retrieving revision 1.29
diff -u -p -r1.28 -r1.29
--- libfontenc.spec 25 Jul 2009 05:37:43 - 1.28
+++ libfontenc.spec 28 Aug 2009 05:54:37 - 1.29
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
Summary: X.Org X11 libfontenc runtime library
Name: libfontenc
-Version: 1.0.4
-Release: 10%{?dist}
+Version: 1.0.5
+Release: 1%{?dist}
License: MIT
Group: System Environment/Libraries
URL: http://www.x.org
@@ -82,6 +82,9 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
%{_libdir}/pkgconfig/fontenc.pc
%changelog
+* Fri Aug 28 2009 Peter Hutterer peter.hutte...@redhat.com 1.0.5-1
+- libfontenc 1.0.5
+
* Fri Jul 24 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org
- 1.0.4-10
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/libfontenc/devel/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.10
retrieving revision 1.11
diff -u -p -r1.10 -r1.11
--- sources 6 Jan 2007 04:18:39 - 1.10
+++ sources 28 Aug 2009 05:54:37 - 1.11
@@ -1 +1 @@
-5cd16a2e51ca7b96a3081c7486ff98b9 libfontenc-1.0.4.tar.bz2
+4f0d8191819be9f2bdf9dad49a65e43b libfontenc-1.0.5.tar.bz2
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Re: IPv6 for Fedora services?
On Aug 17, 2009, at 19:43 , Mike McGrath wrote: On Mon, 17 Aug 2009, Jeff Garzik wrote: On 08/17/2009 10:01 AM, Mike McGrath wrote: On Mon, 17 Aug 2009, Jeff Garzik wrote: Is there any IPv6 plan for *.fedoraproject.org ? There is currently no plan. What needs to be done to create a plan, and move forward? Someone with a clear idea of the benefits, costs, and a plan for implementation. Besides the fact that we have to expect no more free IPv4 adresses available after 2012 and will then be forced to start working on it, the greatest benefit would be to start getting experience on the whole new IPv6 stack. As long as our uplink providers already support v6, the costs to enable services within the new address space should be minimal. Providers usually just charge a setup fee and are actually not allowed to charge more than that... I have already some experience with ipv6 from my workplace. The rough plan for the transition made so far was: * Enable v6 auto-configuration for all of our server vlans. Thus, all of our machines had v6 connectivity to the outside, and where able to use already existing v6 services. To work around any security bugs which this change could introduce, we configured stateful filtering on the routers, allowing only established connections from the outside to our machines. * Working on the support of internal, ancillary services, such as monitoring-, accouting- and documentation systems and setting up firewalls for v6 on all of the hosts. * Enabling the first non-critical test services, by adding additional addresses from another address space, which allow inbound connections. * Enabling more and more services, which are as well visible for our customers. DNS, SMTP, WEB,... Looking forward to work with you guys on the transition. Regards, Stefan. -- Stefan Schlesinger \ \\\ s...@ono.atSTS45-RIPE ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
RE: F8/F9 torrent links
When I last did cleanup, it was before F9 went EOL, so it stayed.F9 has ~20 downloaders right now. I didn't nuke F8 just because there were still a few seeders and downloaders. I see there are 12 downloaders at present for it. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2009-May/msg00164.html describes the policy we have in place. By rights, if we move F9 to archive.fp.o, then we can nuke both F8 and F9 from torrent1. -- Matt Domsch Technology Strategist, Dell Office of the CTO linux.dell.com www.dell.com/linux -Original Message- From: sijis.avi...@gmail.com on behalf of Sijis Aviles Sent: Wed 8/26/2009 11:08 PM To: torrentadmin-memb...@fedoraproject.org Subject: F8/F9 torrent links Hey all, I was browsing the torrent.fedoraproject.org website and i noticed that there are torrent links still listed for F8 and F9. I was looking for a way to remove them via the fedora-web git repo but nb and G noticed the Torrent_SOP. I figured i'd email the torrent group and see if these should be removed since they are EOL. Let me know if in the future i should direct this to somewhere/someone else. Thanks, Sijis ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: IPv6 for Fedora services?
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 01:07:49PM +0200, Stefan Schlesinger wrote: On Aug 17, 2009, at 19:43 , Mike McGrath wrote: On Mon, 17 Aug 2009, Jeff Garzik wrote: On 08/17/2009 10:01 AM, Mike McGrath wrote: On Mon, 17 Aug 2009, Jeff Garzik wrote: Is there any IPv6 plan for *.fedoraproject.org ? There is currently no plan. What needs to be done to create a plan, and move forward? Someone with a clear idea of the benefits, costs, and a plan for implementation. Besides the fact that we have to expect no more free IPv4 adresses available after 2012 and will then be forced to start working on it, the greatest benefit would be to start getting experience on the whole new IPv6 stack. As long as our uplink providers already support v6, the costs to enable services within the new address space should be minimal. Providers usually just charge a setup fee and are actually not allowed to charge more than that... I have already some experience with ipv6 from my workplace. The rough plan for the transition made so far was: * Enable v6 auto-configuration for all of our server vlans. Thus, all of our machines had v6 connectivity to the outside, and where able to use already existing v6 services. To work around any security bugs which this change could introduce, we configured stateful filtering on the routers, allowing only established connections from the outside to our machines. We don't have control over the routers in most of our data centers. RHEL5's ip6tables can't do stateful filtering either (no conntrack). I agree stateful would be nice, but is it strictly necessary? I don't believe so. -- Matt Domsch Technology Strategist, Dell Office of the CTO linux.dell.com www.dell.com/linux ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Introduction
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009, Christian Del Pino wrote: Hello everyone, My name is Chris. I am looking to contribute my skills and time to the Fedora Infrastructure group. I started using Linux back in 1996 while in college. In 2005, I became a system administrator at a small company helping them build, deploy, and support Linux based laptops for use in capturing clinical data. Other tasks included projects to help the company scale our operations. I have a Bachelor's in Computer Science, and I am currently pursuing a Master's in Information Systems, with a couple of semesters to go. I also became a Red Hat Certified Technician back in 2004. My skills include: Bash scripting MySQL C++ HTML CSS Some Python Some PostgreSQL Started learning some Django. I want to be involved in the Fedora community by helping out where I can, and also learn some more new skills along the way. Hello Chris. We have several development projects going on at the moment. One you may be interested in is Fedora Community - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community/ Here's the project page: https://fedorahosted.org/fedoracommunity/ We hang out on irc.freenode.net in #fedora-admin, stop by sometime. -Mike ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: Introduction
On 08/26/2009 09:35 AM, Christian Del Pino wrote: Hello everyone, My name is Chris. I am looking to contribute my skills and time to the Fedora Infrastructure group. I started using Linux back in 1996 while in college. In 2005, I became a system administrator at a small company helping them build, deploy, and support Linux based laptops for use in capturing clinical data. Other tasks included projects to help the company scale our operations. I have a Bachelor's in Computer Science, and I am currently pursuing a Master's in Information Systems, with a couple of semesters to go. I also became a Red Hat Certified Technician back in 2004. My skills include: Bash scripting MySQL C++ HTML CSS Some Python Some PostgreSQL Started learning some Django. I want to be involved in the Fedora community by helping out where I can, and also learn some more new skills along the way. If you're interested in Django, one project that started off purely in Fedora but has become more of its own upstream is transifex (http://www.transifex.org, #transifex on irc.freenode.net). diegobz, glezos, and ivazquez are all Fedora community members as well as transifex hackers. Our particular transifex instance is at: https://translate.fedoraproject.org Most of the rest of our web apps are written for the TurboGears 1 framework. We're going to port them to TG2 at some point in the indefinite future (probably when someone volunteers to make it their pet project :-). If there's one particular web application that you're interested in, I can help get you started. If you just want someone to suggest something, I can have you look through the tickets for the packagedb and we can find something for you to work on :-) best way to reach me is abadger1999 on irc.freenode.net -- #fedora-admin but email to this list also works. -Toshio signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
Re: What is the plan for sound for F12 ?
Linuxguy123 wrote: Clearly whatever F11 is using isn't working. It's working just fine here (there was a minor issue, which I will mention in response to your next post). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is pulseaudio started?
On Thursday 27 August 2009 05:16:33 Steven W. Orr wrote: Marko, I thank you for your help. I had read the pa material before but I did not realize that removing it from the system was really not an option. After reading your reply, I upgraded to kde-4.3.0 and that actually made a huge difference. Time will tell, but so far, I do not seem to be getting syslog messages constantly at a rate of about 26 per second. The messages now seem to be only happening when I do something that causes a sound to be generated, and it stops after a second or two with a rate of about 13/second. This is a substantial improvement. I *might* not be feeling so grateful if your answer had not coincided with an upgrade that showed such an improvement ;-) but since it worked out as well as it did, I say we declare victory and withdraw. There's a beer waiting for you if you get to the Boston area. :-) That's good news, I'm glad you got it working better! :-) Best, :-) Marko -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Where is the torrent for the F11 netinst.iso
Hi, I could not find the torrents for the F11 netinst.iso anywhere on http://torrents.fedoraproject.org/ Trying to download the ISO images using plaing FTP/HTTP is impossible; I get 20 B/s and stalled/broken connections from my nearest mirror. Why are torrents not available for the netinst.iso images? Any specific reasons? Didar -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is the torrent for the F11 netinst.iso
On 27/08/09 10:19, Didar Hossain wrote: Hi, I could not find the torrents for the F11 netinst.iso anywhere on http://torrents.fedoraproject.org/ Trying to download the ISO images using plaing FTP/HTTP is impossible; I get 20 B/s and stalled/broken connections from my nearest mirror. Why are torrents not available for the netinst.iso images? Any specific reasons? Didar They are relatively small. Use a download manager. Firefox plugin DownThemAll? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Firewall and nfs mounts
On Wednesday 26 August 2009 19:41:02 Todd Denniston wrote: Anne Wilson wrote, On 12/23/-28158 02:59 PM: On Tuesday 25 August 2009 00:16:28 Ed Greshko wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 24 August 2009 15:44:20 Bill McGonigle wrote: On 08/24/2009 08:15 AM, Anne Wilson wrote: What ports are necessarily opened on an nfs server? Does the client need any ports opened? If you can limit yourself to NFSv4 you're much better off in this department. I have this on an NFSv4 server: # NFS -A RH-Firewall-1-INPUT -m state --state NEW -m tcp -p tcp --source 192.168.1.32/27 --dport 2049 -j ACCEPT and nothing on a working client other than the standard: -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT Thanks. That's something to work on. Although I have had a working firewall in the past, I'm not really familiar with iptables setup. Since a gui tool was provided I expected it to do the necessary (this is system-config- securitylevels on CentOS) but it doesn't. I used shorewall to set up my firewall long ago, and I'm beginning to think I might be better of seeing if there's a package for CentOS. Gui tools seem nice, but I don't like the fact that they rarely tell you what the are and aren't doing. When it comes to a shorewall package for CentOS or RHEL you can enable the EPEL repository https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL Thanks, Ed. I should be able to get to that tomorrow. The thing is that I only want nfs across the lan. The router would stop any external attempts to use nfs mounting, so it seems to me that trusting the local zone might be all that's needed. I think that is straightforward, IIRC, in shorewall. Anne Anne, If you are using NFS V2/3 instead of 4 (TCP) then the following might be as useful to you as it was to me. :) http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/docs/DOC-3259 Hi, Todd. No, I'm using NFS4. I'm getting some off-list help, so it won't be immediate, but I have hopes of finding where the problem lies and dealing with it. Of course if you had time/inclination you would be using something other than the 1-10005 range where everyone will now be looking for your NFS, if they could only find a way to get past your router. :) :-) I'll bear that in mind, once I have the thing working. At the moment, with the firewall enabled, even I can't reach my home directory, so I'm not exactly worried about others doing so :-) Anne -- New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org Just found a cool new feature? Add it to UserBase signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
sound probleme with f11
Hi list I hhave a strange problem with sound on F11. I have: 00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0) with any sound application (firefox, amarok, kplayer ...) when I start any audio or video file, it starts play normally dor 40 our 50 seconds, then , the sound stops and the file continue playing (without sound). have you any experience with this problem. regards Adel -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address BP 108, Bureau de poste Tunis republique 1001 Tunis Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 fax: +216 71 391 166 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: sound probleme with f11
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Adel ESSAFIadeless...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list I hhave a strange problem with sound on F11. I have: 00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0) with any sound application (firefox, amarok, kplayer ...) when I start any audio or video file, it starts play normally dor 40 our 50 seconds, then , the sound stops and the file continue playing (without sound). have you any experience with this problem. I've seen similar. Have a look in /var/log/messages to see if pulseaudio is committing suicide because of high cpu load. If this is your problem you can change this behaviour in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf by setting no-cpu-limit = yes Regards, Chris -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Virt-manager unable to access VM's.
Hello, Using F11, I have created, and used, 3 virtual machines. However, now when I start the virtual machine manager (VMM) it only shows 'localhost' as being active and nothing else. Previously it showed the 3 VM's, and whether they were started up or shutdown, etc. If I click on the localhost and ask for the 'details' and then 'Storage', it shows the 3 VM's and in the correct storage pool. The state of the pool is active, and autostart on boot is ticked. So the problem seems to be that the 3 VM's are present but that the VMM is now not seeing them (having previously worked fine). Anyone any ideas about this? How can I get the VMM to see the VM's? Thanks, John. -- --- John Horne, University of Plymouth, UK Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 E-mail: john.ho...@plymouth.ac.uk Fax: +44 (0)1752 587001 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: sound probleme with f11
2009/8/27 Chris Rouch chris.ro...@gmail.com On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Adel ESSAFIadeless...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list I hhave a strange problem with sound on F11. I have: 00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0) with any sound application (firefox, amarok, kplayer ...) when I start any audio or video file, it starts play normally dor 40 our 50 seconds, then , the sound stops and the file continue playing (without sound). have you any experience with this problem. I've seen similar. Have a look in /var/log/messages to see if Hi these are the logs Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: Hardware PCM card 0 'SiS SI7012' device 0 subdevice 0 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: Its setup is: Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: stream : PLAYBACK Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: access : MMAP_INTERLEAVED Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: format : S16_LE Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: subformat: STD Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: channels : 2 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: rate : 48000 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: exact rate : 48000 (48000/1) Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: msbits : 16 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: buffer_size : 16384 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: period_size : 16384 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: period_time : 341333 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: tstamp_mode : ENABLE Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: period_step : 1 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: avail_min: 16384 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: period_event : 0 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: start_threshold : -1 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: stop_threshold : 1073741824 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: silence_threshold: 0 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: silence_size : 0 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: boundary : 1073741824 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: appl_ptr : 3664865 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: hw_ptr : 3574509 Aug 27 11:37:17 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 9930 events suppressed Aug 27 11:37:22 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 13671 events suppressed Aug 27 11:37:27 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15818 events suppressed Aug 27 11:37:32 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15153 events suppressed Aug 27 11:37:37 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15377 events suppressed Aug 27 11:37:42 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15587 events suppressed Aug 27 11:37:47 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15440 events suppressed Aug 27 11:37:49 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing minimal latency to 16,00 ms Aug 27 11:37:50 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing minimal latency to 26,00 ms Aug 27 11:37:52 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 11075 events suppressed Aug 27 11:37:57 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15762 events suppressed Aug 27 11:38:02 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15897 events suppressed Aug 27 11:38:07 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15727 events suppressed Aug 27 11:38:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15617 events suppressed Aug 27 11:38:17 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15654 events suppressed Aug 27 11:38:18 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing wakeup watermark to 16,00 ms Aug 27 11:38:19 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing minimal latency to 36,00 ms Aug 27 11:38:22 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 13570 events suppressed Aug 27 11:38:27 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15097 events suppressed Aug 27 11:38:32 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 14932 events suppressed [a...@localhost ~]$ pulseaudio is committing suicide because of high cpu load. If this is your problem you can change this behaviour in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf by setting no-cpu-limit = yes I have tried this, but the problem remains Regards, Chris -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address BP 108, Bureau de poste Tunis republique 1001 Tunis Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 fax: +216 71 391 166 -- fedora-list mailing list
Re: sound probleme with f11
2009/8/27 Adel ESSAFI adel.s...@imag.fr 2009/8/27 Chris Rouch chris.ro...@gmail.com On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Adel ESSAFIadeless...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list I hhave a strange problem with sound on F11. I have: 00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0) with any sound application (firefox, amarok, kplayer ...) when I start any audio or video file, it starts play normally dor 40 our 50 seconds, then , the sound stops and the file continue playing (without sound). have you any experience with this problem. I've seen similar. Have a look in /var/log/messages to see if Hi these are the logs Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: Hardware PCM card 0 'SiS SI7012' device 0 subdevice 0 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: Its setup is: Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: stream : PLAYBACK Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: access : MMAP_INTERLEAVED Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: format : S16_LE Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: subformat: STD Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: channels : 2 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: rate : 48000 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: exact rate : 48000 (48000/1) Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: msbits : 16 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: buffer_size : 16384 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: period_size : 16384 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: period_time : 341333 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: tstamp_mode : ENABLE Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: period_step : 1 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: avail_min: 16384 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: period_event : 0 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: start_threshold : -1 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: stop_threshold : 1073741824 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: silence_threshold: 0 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: silence_size : 0 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: boundary : 1073741824 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: appl_ptr : 3664865 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: hw_ptr : 3574509 Aug 27 11:37:17 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 9930 events suppressed Aug 27 11:37:22 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 13671 events suppressed Aug 27 11:37:27 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15818 events suppressed Aug 27 11:37:32 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15153 events suppressed Aug 27 11:37:37 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15377 events suppressed Aug 27 11:37:42 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15587 events suppressed Aug 27 11:37:47 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15440 events suppressed Aug 27 11:37:49 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing minimal latency to 16,00 ms Aug 27 11:37:50 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing minimal latency to 26,00 ms Aug 27 11:37:52 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 11075 events suppressed Aug 27 11:37:57 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15762 events suppressed Aug 27 11:38:02 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15897 events suppressed Aug 27 11:38:07 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15727 events suppressed Aug 27 11:38:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15617 events suppressed Aug 27 11:38:17 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15654 events suppressed Aug 27 11:38:18 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing wakeup watermark to 16,00 ms Aug 27 11:38:19 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing minimal latency to 36,00 ms Aug 27 11:38:22 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 13570 events suppressed Aug 27 11:38:27 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15097 events suppressed Aug 27 11:38:32 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 14932 events suppressed [a...@localhost ~]$ pulseaudio is committing suicide because of high cpu load. If this is your problem you can change this behaviour in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf by setting no-cpu-limit = yes I have tried this, but the problem remains Regards, Chris -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- http://ilovefedora.blogspot.com/ -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address BP
Re: What is the plan for sound for F12 ?
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 21:30, Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: Half the posts on this list are for sound issues. Clearly whatever F11 is using isn't working. So what is the plan for F12 ? When will the Fedora sound system be given an appropriate level of priority such that sound works at least as well as it did in F10 ? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines Amen to that, brother. Sound problems have been piling up on F11 -- from regressions such as the no sound on headphones to new ones such as the sound drops on track changes on rhythmbox. Regarding sound F11 feels like a step back from F10, which is a pitty. I hope this is just a transition phase during which pulseaudio + ALSA are getting more mature and stable for F12... Regards, Andre -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: PS3 Slim does not support Linux. Can it be worked-around?
Fernando Cassia wrote: previous versions, installing Linux on the PS3 is not supported. Why? they didn't say. So... there go my hopes of getting a PS3 console to watch Blu-Ray movies *and* install Fedora on it http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PlayStation#Status Questions: -Is this a firmware issue? Did they just remove the option to boot a secondary OS from the menus? Can this be worked around? Secondary os is booted from ps3 firmware so it could be only problem in there. -Can the PS3 Slim be made to run an older firmware release from the fat previous version that does include such option? Maybe if you find way to downgrade it. You have to remember that Sony can drasticly change the hardware between revisions and the machines could have differences which are made to look same for the game designers through firmware. So nothing is quaranteed and in worst case you will make the machine as nice nonfunctional decorative piece. :) -What if you take the HD from a fat PS3 with Linux and plug it into the PS3 Slim? You still need to be able to tell in ps3-side to boot on the other side. So maybe not. Still worthwhile to try. If anyone on this list is experienced with running Fedora on the PS3, I'd like to know more about these issues. TIA... FC When I tried it the biggest problem probably was that there isn't that much of memory and on the other hand at that time gfx-support wasn't that great (only framebuffer). And you have to remember that according some sources it was included purely for getting lower customs fee meant for computers instead of one meant for game consoles. Maybe the customs fee isn't issue anymore and hence they got rid of the functionality. As what I would do is to get the older fat-version as they are now selling with lower price. -vpk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: HDA Intel sound card problem
2009/8/18 Paulo Cavalcanti pro...@gmail.com On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 2:22 PM, stan gr...@q.com wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 05:15:43 -0300 Paulo Cavalcanti pro...@gmail.com wrote: The default alsa drivers version in f11 is 1.0.18. The current version is 1.0.20 and there are lots of intel-hda fixes in the update. The reason f11 is running the old version is because the kernel it is using doesn't support the new drivers. What do you mean by that? I have been using driver 1.0.20 since I installed F11, a long time ago. There is nothing in kernel 2.6.29 that precludes its installation. When I run the alsa-info.sh script, this is the output I get. !!Kernel Information !!-- Kernel release:2.6.29.6-217.2.7.fc11.x86_64 Operating System: GNU/Linux Architecture: x86_64 Processor: x86_64 SMP Enabled: Yes !!ALSA Version !! Driver version: 1.0.18a Library version:1.0.20 Utilities version: 1.0.20 There is no package for the drivers pulled up in an rpm query. I assumed that the reason they didn't have the 1.0.20 drivers installed was an incompatibility with the kernel for some hardware. I can't think of another reason they wouldn't be using the latest stable version. They obviously know about it since they have the library and utilities installed. Thee driver is a bunch of kernel modules, which are part of the kernel. Unfortunately, the only time Fedora upgraded the driver in a kernel, they used the 1.0.18, the buggiest alsa driver ever. Therefore, they will not do it again. They will use whatever version comes in the kernel. Hello, it's me again :) i don't remember if I reported that sound from headphones works when I added line: options snd-hda-intel model=dell-m6 to modprobe.d/dist.conf. it's so weird for me. any other hints? :) -- darekr -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is pulseaudio started?
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:40:24 +0100 Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 27 August 2009 05:16:33 Steven W. Orr wrote: Marko, I thank you for your help. I had read the pa material before but I did not realize that removing it from the system was really That's good news, I'm glad you got it working better! :-) Ahem! Can we get back to the subject line? So far we've established that pulsaaudio is started when you log in and that you can turn it off by going to System-Preferences-Personal-Sessions if you have F10 and System-Preferences-Startup Applications if you have F11. I'd like to know where (which file) the information is stored in and what program starts it. gdm? gnome? gconf? Thanks, Steve -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: sound probleme with f11
On 08/27/2009 12:23 PM, Chris Rouch wrote: On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Adel ESSAFIadeless...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list I hhave a strange problem with sound on F11. I have: 00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0) with any sound application (firefox, amarok, kplayer ...) when I start any audio or video file, it starts play normally dor 40 our 50 seconds, then , the sound stops and the file continue playing (without sound). have you any experience with this problem. AFAIK, this is a kernel issue (Intel soundcards), not PulseAudio: Tracked in Bug 506075 - snd_intel8x0: snd_pcm_avail()/ snd_pcm_delay() overflow See I've seen similar. Have a look in /var/log/messages to see if pulseaudio is committing suicide because of high cpu load. If this is your problem you can change this behaviour in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf by setting no-cpu-limit = yes Regards, Chris -- Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de http://www.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: sound probleme with f11
On 08/27/2009 12:50 PM, Adel ESSAFI wrote: 2009/8/27 Adel ESSAFI adel.s...@imag.fr mailto:adel.s...@imag.fr 2009/8/27 Chris Rouch chris.ro...@gmail.com mailto:chris.ro...@gmail.com On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Adel ESSAFIadeless...@gmail.com mailto:adeless...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list I hhave a strange problem with sound on F11. I have: 00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0) with any sound application (firefox, amarok, kplayer ...) when I start any audio or video file, it starts play normally dor 40 our 50 seconds, then , the sound stops and the file continue playing (without sound). have you any experience with this problem. I've seen similar. Have a look in /var/log/messages to see if Hi these are the logs Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: Hardware PCM card 0 'SiS SI7012' device 0 subdevice 0 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: Its setup is: Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: stream : PLAYBACK Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: access : MMAP_INTERLEAVED Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: format : S16_LE Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: subformat: STD Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: channels : 2 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: rate : 48000 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: exact rate : 48000 (48000/1) Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: msbits : 16 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: buffer_size : 16384 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: period_size : 16384 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: period_time : 341333 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: tstamp_mode : ENABLE Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: period_step : 1 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: avail_min: 16384 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: period_event : 0 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: start_threshold : -1 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: stop_threshold : 1073741824 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: silence_threshold: 0 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: silence_size : 0 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: boundary : 1073741824 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: appl_ptr : 3664865 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: hw_ptr : 3574509 Aug 27 11:37:17 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 9930 events suppressed Aug 27 11:37:22 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 13671 events suppressed Aug 27 11:37:27 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15818 events suppressed Aug 27 11:37:32 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15153 events suppressed Aug 27 11:37:37 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15377 events suppressed Aug 27 11:37:42 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15587 events suppressed Aug 27 11:37:47 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15440 events suppressed Aug 27 11:37:49 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing minimal latency to 16,00 ms Aug 27 11:37:50 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing minimal latency to 26,00 ms Aug 27 11:37:52 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 11075 events suppressed Aug 27 11:37:57 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15762 events suppressed Aug 27 11:38:02 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15897 events suppressed Aug 27 11:38:07 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15727 events suppressed Aug 27 11:38:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15617 events suppressed Aug 27 11:38:17 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15654 events suppressed Aug 27 11:38:18 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing wakeup watermark to 16,00 ms Aug 27 11:38:19 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing minimal latency to 36,00 ms Aug 27 11:38:22 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 13570 events suppressed Aug 27 11:38:27 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15097 events suppressed Aug 27 11:38:32 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 14932 events suppressed [a...@localhost ~]$ pulseaudio is committing suicide because of
Re: sound probleme with f11
This fixed the issue for me: replace the line load-module module-hal-detect in /etc/pulse/default.pa by load-module module-hal-detect tsched=0 See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/GlitchFreeAudio Cheers On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 16:20 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: On 08/27/2009 12:50 PM, Adel ESSAFI wrote: 2009/8/27 Adel ESSAFI adel.s...@imag.fr mailto:adel.s...@imag.fr 2009/8/27 Chris Rouch chris.ro...@gmail.com mailto:chris.ro...@gmail.com On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Adel ESSAFIadeless...@gmail.com mailto:adeless...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list I hhave a strange problem with sound on F11. I have: 00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0) with any sound application (firefox, amarok, kplayer ...) when I start any audio or video file, it starts play normally dor 40 our 50 seconds, then , the sound stops and the file continue playing (without sound). have you any experience with this problem. I've seen similar. Have a look in /var/log/messages to see if Hi these are the logs Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: Hardware PCM card 0 'SiS SI7012' device 0 subdevice 0 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: Its setup is: Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: stream : PLAYBACK Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: access : MMAP_INTERLEAVED Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: format : S16_LE Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: subformat: STD Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: channels : 2 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: rate : 48000 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: exact rate : 48000 (48000/1) Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: msbits : 16 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: buffer_size : 16384 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: period_size : 16384 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: period_time : 341333 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: tstamp_mode : ENABLE Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: period_step : 1 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: avail_min: 16384 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: period_event : 0 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: start_threshold : -1 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: stop_threshold : 1073741824 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: silence_threshold: 0 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: silence_size : 0 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: boundary : 1073741824 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: appl_ptr : 3664865 Aug 27 11:37:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-util.c: hw_ptr : 3574509 Aug 27 11:37:17 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 9930 events suppressed Aug 27 11:37:22 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 13671 events suppressed Aug 27 11:37:27 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15818 events suppressed Aug 27 11:37:32 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15153 events suppressed Aug 27 11:37:37 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15377 events suppressed Aug 27 11:37:42 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15587 events suppressed Aug 27 11:37:47 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15440 events suppressed Aug 27 11:37:49 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing minimal latency to 16,00 ms Aug 27 11:37:50 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing minimal latency to 26,00 ms Aug 27 11:37:52 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 11075 events suppressed Aug 27 11:37:57 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15762 events suppressed Aug 27 11:38:02 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15897 events suppressed Aug 27 11:38:07 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15727 events suppressed Aug 27 11:38:12 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15617 events suppressed Aug 27 11:38:17 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: ratelimit.c: 15654 events suppressed Aug 27 11:38:18 localhost pulseaudio[2079]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing
Re: Where is pulseaudio started?
On 09-08-27 10:12:44, Steve Blackwell wrote: ... ... I'd like to know where (which file) the information isstored in and what program starts it. gdm? gnome? gconf? Look in ~/.config. See http://library.gnome.org/devel/autostart-spec/ -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
no medium xterm font
Since upgrading to F11, I cannot get a medium font on my xterms. I've done yum update. My guess is that the fonts are in some package that didn't get installed by default. google has not told me its name. Anyone else know? -- Michael henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu Pessimist: The glass is half empty. Optimist: The glass is half full. Engineer: The glass is twice as big as it needs to be. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
help
I installed fedora 11 and I can't get online. It detects the Internet connection and says it is established but firefox will not connect neither will the system update. Is there something I need to do in the terminal to make it go online. I have a dsl connection. I had to revert back to ubuntu to get online. Any help would be appreciated. _ Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=PID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_faster:082009-- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help
On 08/27/2009 11:43 AM, Brian Bentley wrote: I installed fedora 11 and I can't get online. It detects the Internet connection and says it is established but firefox will not connect neither will the system update. Is there something I need to do in the terminal to make it go online. I have a dsl connection. I had to revert back to ubuntu to get online. Any help would be appreciated. It ought just to connect. There's an icon in your system tray that looks like two computers. If you left click on it, what do you see? If there is more than one available connection, it may not know which one to connect to, and you will need to choose one. If that doesn't solve it, right click on the icon, and make sure Enable networking is checked. If so, then choose Connection Information. What do you get? Better yet, from a terminal, run /sbin/ifconfig and post the output here. Choose Edit connections. Select the connection you want to use and choose Edit. Make sure Connect automatically is checked. Check the IPv4 settings, and make sure they are right for your network. rh -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces
Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces? If yes how? Kishore -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: no medium xterm font
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009, Michael Hennebry wrote: Since upgrading to F11, I cannot get a medium font on my xterms. I've done yum update. My guess is that the fonts are in some package that didn't get installed by default. google has not told me its name. Anyone else know? yum install xorg-x11-fonts-misc ? I'm not home now and can't test it. -- Michael henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu Pessimist: The glass is half empty. Optimist: The glass is half full. Engineer: The glass is twice as big as it needs to be. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces
On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 21:29 +0530, RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA wrote: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces? If yes how? Kishore If yout desktop is GNOME, then there is an application called 'wallpapoz' that allows you to do that. Germán. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- Germán A. Racca National Institute for Space Research (INPE) São José dos Campos - SP - Brasil http://gracca.wordpress.com http://tinyurl.com/SkyTux -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
xscreensaver stops working
I noticed in an update today that an application f-spot (a photo viewer) suddenly required gnome-screensaver which was then installed as a dependency. As a result, xscreensaver which I have installed and prefer over gnome-screensaver was no longer functional. If you find your xscreensaver suddenly no longer works due to an upgrade (and you weren't paying attention) do this: yum -e f-spot gnome-screensaver and all will be well with the world again. Encuentra las mejores recetas en Yahoo! Cocina. http://mx.mujer.yahoo.com/cocina/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: MythTV vs php
On Thursday 27 August 2009, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: On 08/27/2009 12:47 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 27 August 2009, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: What are your problems getting MythTV running, and have you looked for help on the MythTV-users email list? One of the things is that it doesn't seem to play well with a pcHDTV-3000 card. tvtime worked very well with it for NTSC, but switching the firmware loader to set it for NA over the air diigital, and it can't be properly discovered by Mythconfig. Which is why I wanted to try the new release w/o having to build it from the tarballs. I'm surprised, as I have a pcHDTV-5500 running in my system The card can only be used for either NTSC or ATSC, but it can be switched between when the other is not in use. I have used it to view OTA and now clearQAM cable with only a re-configuration in MythTV. That cable is yet another modulation standard, and I wasn't aware that the ATSC code could function with QAM rather than 8VSB. Or maybe that is one of the diffs between my -3000 and your -5500? My cable has completely switch to all digital, so the NTSC side is now worthless for me. As have we for all OTA reception. I have a large LP antenna, and I'm getting the PBS station about 65 air miles away on the house tv's (22 Samsungs) quite well unless there is a lot of precip in the path. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The NRA is offering FREE Associate memberships to anyone who wants them. https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/accept-membership.asp In every hierarchy the cream rises until it sours. -- Dr. Laurence J. Peter -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Monitor does not go into standby when in X
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I had some time this morning, so after getting everything up2date, I tried this: 1. Rebooted into level3. Sat at the login prompt for about 5 minutes and watched my monitor go into standby. Cool. So the system *can* do it. 2. Logged in and waited a while. Monitor went into standby again. So, it's not a matter of being logged in. 3. Rebooted into level5. Logged in. Waited 45 minutes. Screen saver comes on, then screen goes blank, but the monitor power button is green, not yellow. It appears that either X or gnome-power-manager is just refusing to put the monitor into standby. How do I get Fedora / Gnome / X to use power-saving modes for monitor standby? $ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf # Xorg configuration created by system-config-display Section ServerLayout Identifier single head configuration Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection Section InputDevice # keyboard added by rhpxl Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd Option XkbModel pc105+inet Option XkbLayout us EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 ModelNameDell 1704FPT (Digital) HorizSync30.0 - 81.0 VertRefresh 56.0 - 76.0 Option dpms EndSection Section Device Identifier Videocard0 Driver radeon EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Videocard0 MonitorMonitor0 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection - -- Steve -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqWs2IACgkQeERILVgMyvCzJwCeKP/Odgr5AmjrOfgN70JdeB0L +UAAnjZGJB6TxjBpIz43WHwGxWUbNS44 =HRM9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help
rgheck wrote: On 08/27/2009 11:43 AM, Brian Bentley wrote: I installed fedora 11 and I can't get online. It detects the Internet connection and says it is established but firefox will not connect neither will the system update. Is there something I need to do in the terminal to make it go online. I have a dsl connection. I had to revert back to ubuntu to get online. Any help would be appreciated. It ought just to connect. Choose Edit connections. Select the connection you want to use and choose Edit. Make sure Connect automatically is checked. Check the IPv4 settings, and make sure they are right for your network. rh Yet another reason that Network Manager needs to go away. It's a giant PITA. -- Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum Mark Haney Sr. Systems Administrator ERC Broadband (828) 350-2415 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009, RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA wrote: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces? If yes how? Not, I am told, with recent versions of KDE. Wah. -- Michael henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu Pessimist: The glass is half empty. Optimist: The glass is half full. Engineer: The glass is twice as big as it needs to be. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces
Thank you. It is working Kishore On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Germán Racca german.ra...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 21:29 +0530, RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA wrote: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces? If yes how? Kishore If yout desktop is GNOME, then there is an application called 'wallpapoz' that allows you to do that. Germán. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- Germán A. Racca National Institute for Space Research (INPE) São José dos Campos - SP - Brasil http://gracca.wordpress.com http://tinyurl.com/SkyTux -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: MythTV vs php
On 08/27/2009 12:24 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: I'm surprised, as I have a pcHDTV-5500 running in my system The card can only be used for either NTSC or ATSC, but it can be switched between when the other is not in use. I have used it to view OTA and now clearQAM cable with only a re-configuration in MythTV. That cable is yet another modulation standard, and I wasn't aware that the ATSC code could function with QAM rather than 8VSB. Or maybe that is one of the diffs between my -3000 and your -5500? Uh, no, it shouldn't be. ATSC is the encompassing standard, it *includes* either QAM or 8VSB. AFAIK, both PCHDTV boards support both QAM[64/128/256] and 8VSB. But, only 1 at a time. You have to specify the signal type to scan for when you do the scan. Originally, I had mine setup for OTA (8VSB). Then, after my cable went digital only, I connected it to my cable, and I rescanned as QAM-256. According to the pcHDTV.com WWW site, they have a firmware download for PC-2000 and PC-3000 cards which support This firmware supports ATSC and QAM on the HD-3000 and ATSC on the HD-2000. So, it seems that with the right firmware, your HD-3000 should do either 8VSB and QAM. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Anyone using Skype on FC11 ?
On 08/26/2009 12:34 PM, jack craig wrote: Hi folks, After the base sw install, i am getting audio capture audio playback errors when i try to make a test call. A new beta, which supports pulseaudio, is available: http://www.skype.com/intl/es/download/skype/linux/?cm_mmc=PAIDS|GAWS-_-AMERC|PE|ES-_-BD|SOFTW-_-zh01itgclid=CPHjrPaLxJwCFdRS2godgmEbgA -- Joel -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
A puff piece on the Snow Leopard
However, I do agree that upgrade should not mean more bloat! http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/27/technology/personaltech/27pogue.html?_r=1ref=global-home -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: Is the AMD Phenom processor upwards compabible with the Opteron
Thanks for your info, but your message leaves open exactly the two questions that I was asking: On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 12:15 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: Configuring the kernel I came across a choice between generic-x86_64 processors, and the Opteron/Athlon/Hammer/K8 processors. My system has a 4-core Phenom processor. Questions: 1. Is the Phenom compatible with the Opteron/etc? I.e. if I configure for the Opteron, will my kernel be reliable? (This is not as easy to find out as I thought.) To my knowledge, yes. It's certainly compatible with the Athlon. I run a Phenom quad-core as well, but I just use the off-the-shelf x86_64 kernel. Works fine. I run the same kernel myself, built for the generic-x86_64 CPU. The question is are there enhancements for the Athlon above the generic, which are not compatible with the Phenom. I think not, but I haven't been able to get any firm info yet. 2. How much of a performance advantage is there to configuring for the Opteron as against the generic? I don't know that you'd notice any significant difference with a normal work load. If you were doing heavy I/O or number crunching, then you might see some difference, but not enough to really bother making a custom kernel. Again, I suspect you're right about both things. I have to build another kernel to chenge the preemption rule from VOLUNTARY_PREEMPT to PREEMPT, so this looked like a natural change to add (if it works). Thanks - jon -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Anyone using Skype on FC11 ?
On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 09:50 -0700, Joel Gomberg wrote: On 08/26/2009 12:34 PM, jack craig wrote: Hi folks, After the base sw install, i am getting audio capture audio playback errors when i try to make a test call. A new beta, which supports pulseaudio, is available: http://www.skype.com/intl/es/download/skype/linux/?cm_mmc=PAIDS|GAWS-_-AMERC|PE|ES-_-BD|SOFTW-_-zh01itgclid=CPHjrPaLxJwCFdRS2godgmEbgA For those who can't read Spanish, the direct link is http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-beta-fc10 (also -fc9, but not -f11). I'll be testing it with interest as I currently have to use my wife's Mac to get video calls with Skype. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
RE: help
I have ubuntu 8.1 on my laptop and installed fedora 11 on my desktop. I checked all my settings on fedora against ubuntu and they are the same. fedora says there is a connection but firefox says it is unable to locate the server and system update says problem connecting to software source. is there a command I can issue in the terminal that will allow internet access. I am not real famlar with terminal commands. Thanks Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:32:01 -0400 From: mha...@ercbroadband.org To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: help rgheck wrote: On 08/27/2009 11:43 AM, Brian Bentley wrote: I installed fedora 11 and I can't get online. It detects the Internet connection and says it is established but firefox will not connect neither will the system update. Is there something I need to do in the terminal to make it go online. I have a dsl connection. I had to revert back to ubuntu to get online. Any help would be appreciated. It ought just to connect. Choose Edit connections. Select the connection you want to use and choose Edit. Make sure Connect automatically is checked. Check the IPv4 settings, and make sure they are right for your network. rh Yet another reason that Network Manager needs to go away. It's a giant PITA. -- Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum Mark Haney Sr. Systems Administrator ERC Broadband (828) 350-2415 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines _ With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery-- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: MythTV vs php
On Thursday 27 August 2009, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: On 08/27/2009 12:24 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: I'm surprised, as I have a pcHDTV-5500 running in my system The card can only be used for either NTSC or ATSC, but it can be switched between when the other is not in use. I have used it to view OTA and now clearQAM cable with only a re-configuration in MythTV. That cable is yet another modulation standard, and I wasn't aware that the ATSC code could function with QAM rather than 8VSB. Or maybe that is one of the diffs between my -3000 and your -5500? Uh, no, it shouldn't be. ATSC is the encompassing standard, it *includes* either QAM or 8VSB. AFAIK, both PCHDTV boards support both QAM[64/128/256] and 8VSB. But, only 1 at a time. You have to specify the signal type to scan for when you do the scan. Originally, I had mine setup for OTA (8VSB). Then, after my cable went digital only, I connected it to my cable, and I rescanned as QAM-256. According to the pcHDTV.com WWW site, they have a firmware download for PC-2000 and PC-3000 cards which support This firmware supports ATSC and QAM on the HD-3000 and ATSC on the HD-2000. So, it seems that with the right firmware, your HD-3000 should do either 8VSB and QAM. Unless the firmware has changed in the last ~90 days, I have had that installed for quite some time. But I'll recheck just in case. About the 3rd link down in a poodle search for pcHDTV-3000 firmware, there is a 2 line script I just ran, and got this response: [r...@coyote src]# cd linux-2.6.31-rc7/Documentation/dvb; perl ./get_dvb_firmware syntax: get_dvb_firmware component Supported components: sp8870 sp887x tda10045 tda10046 tda10046lifeview av7110 dec2000t dec2540t dec3000s vp7041 dibusb nxt2002 nxt2004 or51211 or51132_qam or51132_vsb bluebird opera1 cx231xx cx18 cx23885 pvrusb2 mpc718 So it looks as if I need to further specify it as or51132_vsb for me. So I did, then did a cmp on the one I have in /lib/firmware vs this one, and they are indeed identical. I have a friend who is running MythTV and maybe I can con him into visiting some night to see if he can help. Might cost me a few bottles of Guiness though. Maybe I should develop a taste for it, its zero calories and I'm diabetic. :) But, to get back to the OP's (me) subject, how to get word to rpmfusion's people that it is not presently an installable batch of updates due to this missing dependency, and one who's name in fact makes zero sense. There may be in fact php-process's but it makes no sense to have such a dependency, it needs to be based on an actual php process's name. Probably a friggin typu someplace, but its a showstopper none-the-less when there isn't a readily available path to the developers involved. Putting the bz facility behind a login at rpmfusion is the best way yet I've found to discourage user complaints. I already have 3 sheets of paper taped to the wall to my left with login/pw combo's written on it, and no room for more. RJW has done a truly excellent job of fixing the bz problems up for the linux kernel, and it seems he should be teaching other admins how to do it. Who, at rpmfusion, might I email regarding this? Thanks. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The NRA is offering FREE Associate memberships to anyone who wants them. https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/accept-membership.asp Windows without the X is like making love without a partner. -- MaDsen Wikholm, mwikh...@at8.abo.fi -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Problem w/ setting Sun's JVM via (g)alternatives?
Since I am trying to get Eclipse's Ganemede working again, I am told that I would need to use Sun's JRE, however, I opted to use the JDK instead of the JRE. I have downloaded and installed Sun's JDK 1.6 1.5 into /opt and it looks good. I can via environment setting run the java -version tests. However I have added the /opt/jdk[...]/bin/java to the alternatives list in the 'java' category for both versions as follows: /opt/jdk.1.6[...]/bin/java priority: 1000 /opt/jdk.1.5[...]/bin/java priority: 500 then selected JDK v1.6, and tried to launch Eclipse. What resulted was a popup failure with the relevant entry: [...] -vm /opt/jdk1.6.0_16/bin/../jre/lib/i386/client/libjvm.so [...] Note: the entire barf is at the end of the line. Why is 'java' replaced with '../jre/lib/i386/client/libjvm.so'? Yes, the -vm path exist. Is this normal? Side question: is the JRE instead of JDK required? I wanted the JDK so that I can do Java development but I do not think there is a difference except only where the jre path is different. Thanks- Dan The barf: === JVM terminated. Exit code=-1 -Xms40m -Xmx512m -XX:MaxPermSize=128m -XX:CompileCommand=exclude,org/eclipse/core/internal/dtree/DataTreeNode,forwardDeltaWith -XX:CompileCommand=exclude,org/eclipse/jdt/internal/compiler/lookup/ParameterizedMethodBinding,init -XX:CompileCommand=exclude,org/eclipse/cdt/internal/core/dom/parser/cpp/semantics/CPPTemplates,instantiateTemplate -XX:CompileCommand=exclude,org/eclipse/cdt/internal/core/pdom/dom/cpp/PDOMCPPLinkage,addBinding -XX:CompileCommand=exclude,org/python/pydev/editor/codecompletion/revisited/PythonPathHelper,isValidSourceFile -XX:CompileCommand=exclude,org/python/pydev/ui/filetypes/FileTypesPreferencesPage,getDottedValidSourceFiles -Dorg.eclipse.equinox.p2.reconciler.dropins.directory=/usr/share/eclipse/dropins -Djava.class.path=/usr/lib/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.equinox.launcher_1.0.101.R34x_v20081125.jar -os linux -ws gtk -arch x86 -showsplash /usr/lib/eclipse//plugins/org.fedoraproject.ide.platform_3.4.2/splash.bmp -launcher /usr/lib/eclipse/eclipse -name Eclipse --launcher.library /usr/lib/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.gtk.linux.x86_1.0.101.R34x_v20080805/eclipse_1116.so -startup /usr/lib/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.equinox.launcher_1.0.101.R34x_v20081125.jar -vm /opt/jdk1.6.0_16/bin/../jre/lib/i386/client/libjvm.so -vmargs -Xms40m -Xmx512m -XX:MaxPermSize=128m -XX:CompileCommand=exclude,org/eclipse/core/internal/dtree/DataTreeNode,forwardDeltaWith -XX:CompileCommand=exclude,org/eclipse/jdt/internal/compiler/lookup/ParameterizedMethodBinding,init -XX:CompileCommand=exclude,org/eclipse/cdt/internal/core/dom/parser/cpp/semantics/CPPTemplates,instantiateTemplate -XX:CompileCommand=exclude,org/eclipse/cdt/internal/core/pdom/dom/cpp/PDOMCPPLinkage,addBinding -XX:CompileCommand=exclude,org/python/pydev/editor/codecompletion/revisited/PythonPathHelper,isValidSourceFile -XX:CompileCommand=exclude,org/python/pydev/ui/filetypes/FileTypesPreferencesPage,getDottedValidSourceFiles -Dorg.eclipse.equinox.p2.reconciler.dropins.directory=/usr/share/eclipse/dropins -Djava.class.path=/usr/lib/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.equinox.launcher_1.0.101.R34x_v20081125.jar === -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [Solved, kinda]Nvidia driver problem
gilpel wrote: (Maybe somebody at rpmfusion is keeping a low profile for supplying these as dependencies with akmod?) The problem was not with akmod: grep '185.18.31' /var/log/yum.log Aug 06 14:34:22 Updated: xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs-185.18.31-1.fc11.x86_64 Aug 06 14:34:22 Updated: kmod-nvidia-185.18.31-1.fc11.x86_64 Aug 06 14:34:24 Updated: xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-185.18.31-1.fc11.x86_64 Aug 06 14:34:36 Installed: kmod-nvidia-2.6.29.6-217.2.3.fc11.x86_64-185.18.31-1.fc11.x86_64 I suppose this should mean that I enabled testing to get this kmod module, then disabled it thereafter. I didn't do this. Not a chance. I wouldn't be caught dead enabling testing. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Anyone using Skype on FC11 ?
I just got success with what the Skype site calls Fedora 7 (file is *fc5*). I'm on an Acer Aspire 1. I took the advice pointed to from here and set Skype's audio devices to HDA, but also used the Gnome mixer to boost the mic's. This probably is not important: because of music experiments I'm using CCRMA packages - realtime kernel, their Jack, etc. On 08/27/2009 01:02 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 09:50 -0700, Joel Gomberg wrote: On 08/26/2009 12:34 PM, jack craig wrote: Hi folks, After the base sw install, i am getting audio capture audio playback errors when i try to make a test call. A new beta, which supports pulseaudio, is available: http://www.skype.com/intl/es/download/skype/linux/?cm_mmc=PAIDS|GAWS-_-AMERC|PE|ES-_-BD|SOFTW-_-zh01itgclid=CPHjrPaLxJwCFdRS2godgmEbgA For those who can't read Spanish, the direct link is http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-beta-fc10 (also -fc9, but not -f11). I'll be testing it with interest as I currently have to use my wife's Mac to get video calls with Skype. poc -- http://clients.teksavvy.com/~echapin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: help
Yet another reason that Network Manager needs to go away. It's a giant PITA. This is not very helpful. And if you want to make it go away, why not just uninstall it, or just turn it off? On 08/27/2009 01:09 PM, Brian Bentley wrote: I have ubuntu 8.1 on my laptop and installed fedora 11 on my desktop. I checked all my settings on fedora against ubuntu and they are the same. fedora says there is a connection but firefox says it is unable to locate the server and system update says problem connecting to software source. is there a command I can issue in the terminal that will allow internet access. I am not real famlar with terminal commands. Thanks. There might be such a command, but we won't know until we know what the problem is. Check the IP address you are getting from Ubuntu (use /sbin/ifconfig, if you like). The address you are showing, 192.168.2.2, is a local IP, which you should only get if you have a router. The interesting question is not whether the IPs are exactly the same, but whether the Ubuntu one is also in the 192.168.2.* range. If it is not, then for some reason Fedora is not getting an IP. If it is, then Become root, and post the output of: grep NetworkManager /var/log/messages Post the output of /sbin/route, too, and also cat /etc/resolv.conf while you're at it. For both Ubuntu and Fedora. rh PS Post things to the list. Someone else might see better than I will what the problem is. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Anyone using Skype on FC11 ?
On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 12:32 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 09:50 -0700, Joel Gomberg wrote: On 08/26/2009 12:34 PM, jack craig wrote: Hi folks, After the base sw install, i am getting audio capture audio playback errors when i try to make a test call. A new beta, which supports pulseaudio, is available: http://www.skype.com/intl/es/download/skype/linux/?cm_mmc=PAIDS|GAWS-_-AMERC|PE|ES-_-BD|SOFTW-_-zh01itgclid=CPHjrPaLxJwCFdRS2godgmEbgA For those who can't read Spanish, the direct link is http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-beta-fc10 (also -fc9, but not -f11). I'll be testing it with interest as I currently have to use my wife's Mac to get video calls with Skype. No luck I'm afraid: $ ldd /usr/bin/skype linux-gate.so.1 = (0xf7ff2000) libasound.so.2 = /lib/libasound.so.2 (0x00b1c000) libXv.so.1 = /usr/lib/libXv.so.1 (0xf7fc1000) libXss.so.1 = not found librt.so.1 = /lib/librt.so.1 (0x005fd000) libQtDBus.so.4 = not found libQtGui.so.4 = not found libQtNetwork.so.4 = not found libQtCore.so.4 = not found libpthread.so.0 = /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x0037f000) libstdc++.so.6 = /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0x00666000) libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x00355000) libgcc_s.so.1 = /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x005ad000) libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x001db000) libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x0034e000) libX11.so.6 = /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x0047c000) libXext.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x00832000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x001b7000) libxcb.so.1 = /usr/lib/libxcb.so.1 (0x005da000) libXau.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0x005f8000) So it looks like F11 is out. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
