Re: Yet another hack

[Michael Schwendt]

On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 09:17:58 +0500 (GMT-5), gil...@altern.org wrote:

> Ok, I'm crazy, That's a given. When you're hacked, you're crazy.

Do I understand you correctly? With the term "hacked", you claim
that somebody has acquired unauthorized access to your machine?
Instead of posting very confusing messages about icons, have you
done anything to verify your installation (RPM, open ports, active
services, for example)?

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No IPv6 traffic

[Clodoaldo Pinto Neto]

When capturing the traffic with Wireshark there is no IPv6 traffic at
all. When I set network.dns.disableIPv6 to true I can see all IPv4 in
Wireshark. This is Fedora 10 64.

While it is easy to solve it for Firefox there are many services that
can't connect even if I disable IPv6 in the system. One symptom is Yum
has to try repetitively until it finds a suitable host:

http://mirrors.ucr.ac.cr/fedora/releases/10/Everything/x86_64/os/repodata/repomd.xml:
[Errno 4] IOError: 
Trying other mirror.

Another is that the weather applet and fold...@home can't connect.
When I disable IPv6 in the system the applet connects but Yum behaves
the same (multiple tries) and still fold...@home can't connect.

My name servers are set to opendns:

# cat /etc/resolv.conf
# Generated by NetworkManager
nameserver 208.67.220.220
nameserver 208.67.222.222
nameserver 10.1.1.1

# cat /etc/sysconfig/network
NETWORKING=yes
HOSTNAME=d2.localdomain
NETWORKING_IPV6=yes

# cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
# Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit
Ethernet controller
DEVICE=eth0
BOOTPROTO=none
DNS1=208.67.220.220
DNS2=208.67.222.222
DNS3=10.1.1.1
GATEWAY=10.1.1.1
HWADDR=00:21:97:00:79:21
IPADDR=10.1.1.110
NETMASK=255.0.0.0
ONBOOT=yes
TYPE=Ethernet
USERCTL=no
IPV6INIT=yes
NM_CONTROLLED=yes
PEERDNS=yes

I have another machine, F11, behind the same ADSL router, Dlink DSL
500B, without problems.

Any ideas?

Regards, Clodoaldo

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Re: Yet another hack

[gilpel]

gilpel wrote:

> On the update that preceded the most recent kernel update, the modem light
> kept blinking after the whole installation was finished. For 2 or 3
> seconds, I wondered which application could be connecting to the net. When
> I saw there was none -- Firefox wasn't even open -- I jumped on the modem
> switch to shut it off, but the transfer had ceased.

Now that I've slept on this, I remember that less than a minute after this
update, 2 new updates arrived. So, it might be unrelated.

I'd have to check yum.log about this but... I'll slep a little bit more on
it.

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Re: Yet another hack

[Hiisi]

On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 09:17:58 +0500 (GMT-5), gil...@altern.org wrote:

> Ok, I'm crazy, That's a given. When you're hacked, you're crazy.

Do I understand you correctly? With the term "hacked", you claim
that somebody has acquired unauthorized access to your machine?
Instead of posting very confusing messages about icons, have you
done anything to verify your installation (RPM, open ports, active
services, for example)?




I would suggest something like 'lsof | grep -v  | 
grep -v root' when THEY will come next time...


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Re: Yet another hack

[gilpel]

> On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 09:17:58 +0500 (GMT-5), gil...@altern.org wrote:
>
>> Ok, I'm crazy, That's a given. When you're hacked, you're crazy.
>
> Do I understand you correctly? With the term "hacked", you claim
> that somebody has acquired unauthorized access to your machine?
> Instead of posting very confusing messages about icons,

When 6 icons disappear in one click, to me, it's not a confusing message:
there's something wrong.

> have you
> done anything to verify your installation (RPM, open ports, active
> services, for example)?

All I can say is I haven't changed any of these settings and my capacity
to do security audits is more than limited, mainly now that I'm on
antibiotics because of a weird summer flue. Since I have little data on my
computer, I would rather do a new clean install, which might happen when I
change ISP next month.

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Re: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces

[Anne Wilson]

On Friday 28 August 2009 20:23:39 Gene Heskett wrote:
> >For each desktop, right-click and select Add Widgets.  Add the widgets
> >relevant to the activity you intend for that desktop.
>
> The very terse wording makes it non-intuitive.  And clicking on help gets
> me the advisory that it has not yet been written.
>
I'm sorry, but I have no idea what it was you wanted help with.

> >Remember that your desktops now act independently.  You can have leisure-
> >related widgets on a different desktop from your work-related ones.
> >
> >If that's not what you meant by 'plasmoid launcher', describe a bit more
> > what you want.
>
> What I want is the same, semi transparent launcher to be available on all 8
> screens.   For that, it seems I should be able to edit an rc or conf file
> someplace, and just copy/paste that same stanza in the verses for the other
> 7 screens.

I'm no wise with this, either.  What exactly do you mean by semi-transparent 
launcher?  I don't recognise the description.

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Re: No IPv6 traffic

[Mike McGrath]

On Sat, 29 Aug 2009, Clodoaldo Pinto Neto wrote:

> When capturing the traffic with Wireshark there is no IPv6 traffic at
> all. When I set network.dns.disableIPv6 to true I can see all IPv4 in
> Wireshark. This is Fedora 10 64.
>
> While it is easy to solve it for Firefox there are many services that
> can't connect even if I disable IPv6 in the system. One symptom is Yum
> has to try repetitively until it finds a suitable host:
>
> http://mirrors.ucr.ac.cr/fedora/releases/10/Everything/x86_64/os/repodata/repomd.xml:
> [Errno 4] IOError: 
> Trying other mirror.
>
> Another is that the weather applet and fold...@home can't connect.
> When I disable IPv6 in the system the applet connects but Yum behaves
> the same (multiple tries) and still fold...@home can't connect.
>
> My name servers are set to opendns:
>
> # cat /etc/resolv.conf
> # Generated by NetworkManager
> nameserver 208.67.220.220
> nameserver 208.67.222.222
> nameserver 10.1.1.1
>
> # cat /etc/sysconfig/network
> NETWORKING=yes
> HOSTNAME=d2.localdomain
> NETWORKING_IPV6=yes
>
> # cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> # Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit
> Ethernet controller
> DEVICE=eth0
> BOOTPROTO=none
> DNS1=208.67.220.220
> DNS2=208.67.222.222
> DNS3=10.1.1.1
> GATEWAY=10.1.1.1
> HWADDR=00:21:97:00:79:21
> IPADDR=10.1.1.110
> NETMASK=255.0.0.0
> ONBOOT=yes
> TYPE=Ethernet
> USERCTL=no
> IPV6INIT=yes
> NM_CONTROLLED=yes
> PEERDNS=yes
>
> I have another machine, F11, behind the same ADSL router, Dlink DSL
> 500B, without problems.
>
> Any ideas?
>

Sorry if I'm misunderstanding your email, you actually have IPV6
configured and are trying to use it?  Does it only not work against fedora
services or does it not work against anything?

-Mike

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thunderbird-lightning and sunbird: libcalbasecomps.so: undefined symbol: icaltime_compare_date_only_tz

[John Thompson]

Lightning (1.0-0.6.20090715hg.fc11) and sunbird
(1.0-0.5.20090715hg.fc11) had been working well for me recently on
Fedora-11 x86_64 but this morning I am greeted with the error message:

[j...@lancre ~]$ thunderbird
Registering Enigmail account manager extension.
Enigmail account manager extension registered.
/usr/lib64/thunderbird-3.0b3/thunderbird-bin: symbol lookup error:
/usr/lib64/thunderbird-3.0b3/extensions/{e2fda1a4-762b-4020-b5ad-a41df1933103}/components/libcalbasecomps.so:
undefined symbol: icaltime_compare_date_only_tz

I have tried reverting to to early versions of each but the error persists.

Software changes since the last time lightning/sunbird worked properly are:

Packages Installed:
kernel-debug-devel.x86_64 2.6.29.6-217.2.16.fc11
python-offtrac.noarch 0.0.3-1.fc11
kernel-devel.x86_64 2.6.29.6-217.2.16.fc11
kernel.x86_64 2.6.29.6-217.2.16.fc11

 Packages Updated:
1:xscreensaver-extras-5.08-13.fc11.x86_64
setroubleshoot-2.1.14-3.fc11.x86_64
bash.x86_64 4.0-8.fc11
libtranslate-devel-0.99-21.fc11.x86_64
selinux-policy-targeted-3.6.12-80.fc11.noarch
1:xscreensaver-gl-extras-gss-5.08-13.fc11.x86_64
selinux-policy-3.6.12-80.fc11.noarch
libtranslate-0.99-21.fc11.x86_64
1:xscreensaver-gl-base-5.08-13.fc11.x86_64
kernel-headers.x86_64 2.6.29.6-217.2.16.fc11
system-config-lvm.noarch 1.1.9-1.fc11
tigervnc-0.0.91-0.12.fc11.x86_64
ndesk-dbus.x86_64 0.6.1a-6.fc11
kpackagekit.x86_64 0.4.2-0.fc11
kernel-firmware.noarch 2.6.29.6-217.2.16.fc11
smolt.noarch 1.3-1.fc11
smolt-firstboot.noarch 1.3-1.fc11
gmime.x86_64 2.4.3-6.fc11
tigervnc-server-module-0.0.91-0.12.fc11.x86_64
mono-addins.x86_64 0.4-8.20091702svn127062.1.fc11
gdb.x86_64 6.8.50.20090302-38.fc11
gsf-sharp.x86_64 0.8.1-11.fc11
imsettings-libs.x86_64 0.107.2-1.fc11
1:xscreensaver-gl-extras-5.08-13.fc11.x86_64
f-spot.x86_64 0.6.0.0-1.fc11
ndesk-dbus-glib.x86_64 0.4.1-5.fc11
gmime-sharp.x86_64 2.4.3-6.fc11
imsettings.x86_64 0.107.2-1.fc11
imsettings-xfce.x86_64 0.107.2-1.fc11
fedora-packager.noarch 0.3.8-1.fc11
libmikmod-3.2.0-5.beta2.fc11.x86_64
tigervnc-server-0.0.91-0.12.fc11.x86_64
imsettings-devel.x86_64 0.107.2-1.fc11
setroubleshoot-server-2.1.14-3.fc11.x86_64
taglib-sharp.x86_64 2.0.3.2-4.fc11
1:xscreensaver-base-5.08-13.fc11.x86_64
1:xscreensaver-extras-gss-5.08-13.fc11.x86_64

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Re: fedoraproject.org down (ipv6 only)

[Chris Adams]

Once upon a time, Todd Zullinger  said:
> The  records were added in the past few hours.  If it's causing
> any problems the folks in #fedora-admin on irc.freenode.net would
> probably like to know.  That, or file a ticket with the infrastructure
> team via https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ (this
> requires a Fedora Account).

It appears that the mirrormanager is not handling IPv6 correctly.  I
have a Hurricane Electric IPv6 tunnel (from Ashburn, Virginia) to my
home network, and now mirrormanager is giving me non-geolocated URLs.  I
needed to install something, and one hit downloaded from Brazil, and the
next hit from Russia.

I've filed this here:

https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1645

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Re: fedoraproject.org down (ipv6 only)

[Todd Zullinger]

Chris Adams wrote:
> It appears that the mirrormanager is not handling IPv6 correctly.  I
> have a Hurricane Electric IPv6 tunnel (from Ashburn, Virginia) to my
> home network, and now mirrormanager is giving me non-geolocated
> URLs.  I needed to install something, and one hit downloaded from
> Brazil, and the next hit from Russia.
>
> I've filed this here:
>
> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1645

I recall Matt Domsch mentioning this when he set things up yesterday.
The geo-ip information available to mirrormanager from Maxmind isn't
very complete.

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Re: fedoraproject.org down (ipv6 only)

[Chris Adams]

Once upon a time, Todd Zullinger  said:
> I recall Matt Domsch mentioning this when he set things up yesterday.
> The geo-ip information available to mirrormanager from Maxmind isn't
> very complete.

I was just looking to see if Maxmind had an IPv6 database (we use
Maxmind's country database that is available for free here), and they
show US for my IPv6 IP.  I would guess there's a bug in mirrormanager's
handling of IPv6 and geoip lookups.

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Re: fedoraproject.org down (ipv6 only)

[Todd Zullinger]

Chris Adams wrote:
> I was just looking to see if Maxmind had an IPv6 database (we use
> Maxmind's country database that is available for free here), and
> they show US for my IPv6 IP.  I would guess there's a bug in
> mirrormanager's handling of IPv6 and geoip lookups.

Ahh, then yeah, that seems like a bug.  I'll leave that to you and
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need help

[SriLatha]

hi,
Iam trying to install ns in fedora11. But iam getting following error.
Checking for X11 header files.
Cant find X includes.
make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.
make: *** No rule to make target 'install'. Stop.

I tried to install libX as yum install libX11-devel but unable to install after 
trying 256 mirrors. 
How can i resolve this problem?

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Re: fedoraproject.org down (ipv6 only)

[Mike McGrath]

On Sat, 29 Aug 2009, Todd Zullinger wrote:

> Chris Adams wrote:
> > I was just looking to see if Maxmind had an IPv6 database (we use
> > Maxmind's country database that is available for free here), and
> > they show US for my IPv6 IP.  I would guess there's a bug in
> > mirrormanager's handling of IPv6 and geoip lookups.
>
> Ahh, then yeah, that seems like a bug.  I'll leave that to you and
> Matt in the ticket. :)
>

For others with this issue, we've disabled ipv6 for mirrormanager for now
until we get the seperate maxmind database up and ready.

-Mike

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Re: No IPv6 traffic

[Jim]

On 08/29/2009 06:23 AM, Clodoaldo Pinto Neto wrote:

When capturing the traffic with Wireshark there is no IPv6 traffic at
all. When I set network.dns.disableIPv6 to true I can see all IPv4 in
Wireshark. This is Fedora 10 64.

While it is easy to solve it for Firefox there are many services that
can't connect even if I disable IPv6 in the system. One symptom is Yum
has to try repetitively until it finds a suitable host:

http://mirrors.ucr.ac.cr/fedora/releases/10/Everything/x86_64/os/repodata/repomd.xml:
[Errno 4] IOError:
Trying other mirror.

Another is that the weather applet and fold...@home can't connect.
When I disable IPv6 in the system the applet connects but Yum behaves
the same (multiple tries) and still fold...@home can't connect.

My name servers are set to opendns:

# cat /etc/resolv.conf
# Generated by NetworkManager
nameserver 208.67.220.220
nameserver 208.67.222.222
nameserver 10.1.1.1

# cat /etc/sysconfig/network
NETWORKING=yes
HOSTNAME=d2.localdomain
NETWORKING_IPV6=yes

# cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
# Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit
Ethernet controller
DEVICE=eth0
BOOTPROTO=none
DNS1=208.67.220.220
DNS2=208.67.222.222
DNS3=10.1.1.1
GATEWAY=10.1.1.1
HWADDR=00:21:97:00:79:21
IPADDR=10.1.1.110
NETMASK=255.0.0.0
ONBOOT=yes
TYPE=Ethernet
USERCTL=no
IPV6INIT=yes
NM_CONTROLLED=yes
PEERDNS=yes

I have another machine, F11, behind the same ADSL router, Dlink DSL
500B, without problems.

Any ideas?

Regards, Clodoaldo

   
This IPV6 thing is a problem in FC11 , FC10, everyone of the of the 12 
boxes I have setup in FC11 I have had to do the below setup to even 
connect to rpmfusion.org.
1.  Q: Networking (or DNS) seems really slow and fails often (Updated 2 January 
2009)
A: If Fedora 10's networking seems slow or you get frequent network connection 
failures (when other Fedoras or other OSes were working just fine on your 
machine), then you're probably hitting this bug.

Here's how you can work around it:

   1. Open a Terminal.
   2. Become root:

  su -
   3. Make sure that the "dnsmasq" program is installed (it usually is, by 
default, in Fedora 10):

  rpm -q dnsmasq

  If that says "package dnsmasq is not installed", then you need to install 
dnsmasq, by running the following command:

  yum install dnsmasq
   4. Now, you have to find out which network interface your machine is using:

  route -n

  You'll see some output that looks like this:

  Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 192.168.1.0 
0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 1 0 0 eth0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0

  The eth0 there (the furthest bottom-right text in the output) is the name 
of the network interface I'm using. Yours might be eth1 or something totally 
different. Just remember it for the next step.
   5. Now create a file called /etc/dhclient-.conf. For 
example, if your network interface is eth0, the file would be called 
/etc/dhclient-eth0.conf.

  You can create the file with this command (assuming your network 
interface is eth0):

  nano /etc/dhclient-eth0.conf

  Then make this the only line in the file:

  prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1;

  And then save the file and close it (Ctrl-X then Y).

  If you have both a wireless and a wired network connection, you will have 
to do this step once for each of them.
   6. Now start dnsmasq:

  service dnsmasq start

  And make sure that it will start every time your computer starts:

  chkconfig dnsmasq on
   7. Now restart your network connection:

  service NetworkManager restart

And now things should be as fast as normal again. You might have to restart the 
programs that you're running for them to pick up the changes that 
NetworkManager made when it restarted.



2.  * IPv6
You might notice that your browsing through Firefox is a little slow on Fedora 
10. This is because Firefox 3 has enabled by default IPv6 which causes Firefox 
to first resolve an IPv6 address and after the connection fails it switches to 
IPv4. To change this setting type:

about:config


and in Filter box type:

network.dns.disableIPv6


Right click on it, select Toggle and change its value to true. Restart Firefox 
and you are ready! 




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pulse audio not starting F11

[Phill]

I have a clean install of Fedora 11 from downloaded install dvd. I noticed my 
sound stopped working after installing some other things via yum. Might just be 
a coincidence. I installed groupinstall "Development Tools" "Development 
Libraries" "Legacy Software Dvelopment". Then I noticed I have these messages 
in /var/log/messages. This is just a snippet of the pulse audio messages.

Aug 29 10:19:06 jkh pulseaudio[2232]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing wakeup watermark 
to 30.00 ms
Aug 29 10:19:07 jkh pulseaudio[2232]: alsa-source.c: ALSA woke us up to read 
new data from the device, but there was actually nothing to read!
Aug 29 10:19:07 jkh pulseaudio[2232]: alsa-source.c: Most likely this is a bug 
in the ALSA driver 'snd_ca0106'. Please report this issue to the ALSA 
developers.
Aug 29 10:19:07 jkh pulseaudio[2232]: alsa-source.c: We were woken up with 
POLLIN set -- however a subsequent snd_pcm_avail() returned 0 or another value 
< min_avail.
Aug 29 10:19:08 jkh pulseaudio[2232]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing wakeup watermark 
to 40.00 ms
Aug 29 10:19:10 jkh pulseaudio[2232]: ratelimit.c: 15285 events suppressed
Aug 29 10:19:32 jkh pulseaudio[2232]: ratelimit.c: 16 events suppressed
Aug 29 10:19:32 jkh pulseaudio[2232]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing minimal latency 
to 1.00 ms
Aug 29 10:19:37 jkh pulseaudio[2232]: ratelimit.c: 3441 events suppressed
Aug 29 10:19:42 jkh pulseaudio[2232]: ratelimit.c: 3508 events suppressed
Aug 29 10:19:43 jkh pulseaudio[2232]: cpulimit.c: Received request to terminate 
due to CPU overload.

I noticed the messages above saying this is a bug in alsa drivers. Anyone point 
me in the right direction? Thanks.




  

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[OT] Run LiveUSB on machine that can't boot from usbkey?

[Mike Cloaked]

I have an old laptop that I use for testing new versions of Fedora - however
although it will boot of a physical CD containing a LiveCD (say of F12
Alpha), it is old enough not to be able to boot off usb devices since the
BIOS is not arranged to do so. So a usbkey that contains a LiveCD that works
perfectly well on other machines won't play on this particular machine
(Fijitsu-Siemens Amilo D 6800)

Can anyone point me to a reference to work around this by booting off say an
altered grub stansa in the HD which then refers to a plugged in usbkey to
continue loading the LiveCD files from the usbkey? Or something similar?

I usually try to avoid using optical media if possible for running both
installs and testing LiveCDs.
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Re: Setting up a point-to-point NIC in NetworkManager

[Bill Davidsen]

Rick Stevens wrote:

Bill Davidsen wrote:
How does one set up a point to point NIC in NetworkManager? Or should 
I go back to doing everything manually?


To set up a fixed IP:

Right-click on the NM icon
Select "Edit Connections"
Select the type of connection (wired, wireless, etc.)
Click on "Add"
Put some mnemonic name in the "Connection Name" field
Check or uncheck the "Connect Automatically" box
In the "Wired" tab, put in your MAC address
In the "IPV4 Settings" tab:
Select "Manual" as the method
Click "Add" next to Addresses
Put in the desired IP, netmask and gateway
(you need to click in each field to enter data)
Put in your desired DNS servers and search domains
Click "Apply"

Fairly easy to do.


This seems to set up a one address link, but not set the P-t-P flag.

Thanks for the input, it's close enough to get packets to the right place, but 
doesn't trigger the P-t-P code in the kernel which seems to be desirable in a 
firewall.


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Re: Multiple IP addresses without aliasing?

[Bill Davidsen]

Ryan Lynch wrote:

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 17:36, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

Ryan Lynch writes:


Do the Fedora network init scripts support additional secondary IP
addresses without the use of alias labels?  Does an option for IPv4
addresses exist that works like IPV6ADDR_SECONDARIES?

I just skimmed /usr/share/doc/initscripts-*/sysconfig.txt, but I
didn't see anything to that effect, so I'm guessing the answer is no,
and I have to use aliases and 'ifcfg-eth?:0' files.

Yes, at least for IPv4. There is absolutely no support from the GUI, but you
can manually install /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ethX:Y. For
example, I have an ifcfg-eth1 and an ifcfg-eth1:1, with a second IP address.
Just copy ifcfg-ethX to ifcfg-ethX:1, and stick in an additional IP address.


That's exactly what I'm trying to avoid--I don't want Fedora to add
the 'eth0:0', 'eth0:1', etc. labels.  I'm wondering if the init
scripts support multiple addresses WITHOUT aliases.

At his point I think it would be good to explain what you are really trying to 
do, rather than how you would like to do it. What do you expect to see if you do 
what you want, and what tools would you use in place of the normal tools which 
expect an alias?


Note, adding a address via "ip" works in some odd ways you might not expect, and 
you have to set up routing by hand as well. What is wrong with the alias method 
which works for the rest of us?


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Problems with Connection on F10

[Aaron Gray]

I keep on getting problem with getting higher level connections on F10 over
Ethernet.
I can ping and do low level comms, but cannot get Firefox to work.

The connection icon is showing a red cross what ever I do.

I tried right clicking on it and clicking on the check box a number of
times, recreated the connection entering the MAC address.

But to no avail. This problem has been solved for me before but cannot
remember the solution.

Hope you can help,

Aaron
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F11 OS Instability? Twice now, the system locks out!

[Daniel B. Thurman]

The last time I had a system lock-out was several
weeks ago, and just today, I experienced another.

I tried to access the system locally via the keyboard,
no response.  Mouse, same. Remotely, not responding,
all remote connections, ports, etc.  Not there.

Darn! hard reboot.

So, I looked at the system messages logs:

Aug 29 01:08:11 gold pulseaudio[7453]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing wakeup 
watermark to 125.99 ms

Aug 29 10:14:32 gold kernel: imklog 3.22.1, log source = /proc/kmsg started.

Yep, there is a 9 hour gap of no activity.  It looks
like the system went to sleep just like I did when
it was time for bed.  I got up this morning, but my
system never woke up.  Lazy basta...  oh, sorry.
It died.

Well, what else can I do, there seems to be no way
to figure out what is going on, if there is no record
of it!

Dan
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Re: Setting up a point-to-point NIC in NetworkManager

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:39:31 -0400,
  Bill Davidsen  wrote:
> This seems to set up a one address link, but not set the P-t-P flag.
>
> Thanks for the input, it's close enough to get packets to the right 
> place, but doesn't trigger the P-t-P code in the kernel which seems to be 
> desirable in a firewall.

I think that scheme is also limited in that the nic address and the peer
address need to be on the same network. If you are using point to point
you don't need that to be the case.

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Re: need help

[stan]

On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 19:59:47 +0530 (IST)
SriLatha  wrote:

To ask better questions on mailing lists (better means more likely to
get an answer that works), see these links:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#bespecific
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#beprecise
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> hi,
> Iam trying to install ns in fedora11. But iam getting following error.
> Checking for X11 header files.
> Cant find X includes.
> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.
> make: *** No rule to make target 'install'. Stop.
> 
> I tried to install libX as yum install libX11-devel but unable to
> install after trying 256 mirrors. How can i resolve this problem?

I have libX11-devel installed on my fedora 11 system as
libX11-devel-1.2.2-1.fc11.x86_64, so you are doing something wrong even
though your command looks correct.  But no one except you knows what
you did and what results you got, so no one can tell you what to do
differently to resolve your problem.  Was there an error message?
Can you go to a mirror and see the package on the mirror with a web
browser?  Can you download it from the browser?

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Re: F11 OS Instability? Twice now, the system locks out!

[brian]

On 08/29/2009 01:39 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:


The last time I had a system lock-out was several
weeks ago, and just today, I experienced another.

I tried to access the system locally via the keyboard,
no response. Mouse, same. Remotely, not responding,
all remote connections, ports, etc. Not there.

Darn! hard reboot.

So, I looked at the system messages logs:

Aug 29 01:08:11 gold pulseaudio[7453]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing wakeup
watermark to 125.99 ms
Aug 29 10:14:32 gold kernel: imklog 3.22.1, log source = /proc/kmsg
started.

Yep, there is a 9 hour gap of no activity. It looks
like the system went to sleep just like I did when
it was time for bed. I got up this morning, but my
system never woke up. Lazy basta... oh, sorry.
It died.

Well, what else can I do, there seems to be no way
to figure out what is going on, if there is no record
of it!



It's locked up on me about a half dozen or so times in the past week. 
Additionally, the box suspends at random times[1] (it's not a laptop) 
and cannot be brought back out of it.


Also, Thunderbird and Firefox occasionally cannot display certain images 
properly[2] and Thunderbird crashes if I try to paste text that's been 
copied from either the terminal or jEdit. Yup, lots of nasty bugginess. 
I don't know what else to check and don't think I can deal with this 
much longer.


[1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-August/msg02112.html
[2] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-August/msg01845.html

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cannot play DVD's on Fedora 10 386

[Kevin Kempter]

Hi all;

I'm setting up Fedora 10 (i386) on a new laptop for my son.

I enabled the rpmfusion repos and did a full update. Then I enabled the linva 
repo and installed libdvdcss, xine-lib-extras and dependancies

I did a chmod 755 on /dev/dvd
If we try and play a dvd we get this:


The source can't be read.

Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't
contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (Error reading NAV packet.)

Any suggestions?


Thanks in advance

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Re: [OT] Run LiveUSB on machine that can't boot from usbkey?

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

Mike Cloaked wrote:
> I have an old laptop that I use for testing new versions of Fedora - however
> although it will boot of a physical CD containing a LiveCD (say of F12
> Alpha), it is old enough not to be able to boot off usb devices since the
> BIOS is not arranged to do so. So a usbkey that contains a LiveCD that works
> perfectly well on other machines won't play on this particular machine
> (Fijitsu-Siemens Amilo D 6800)
> 
> Can anyone point me to a reference to work around this by booting off say an
> altered grub stansa in the HD which then refers to a plugged in usbkey to
> continue loading the LiveCD files from the usbkey? Or something similar?
> 
> I usually try to avoid using optical media if possible for running both
> installs and testing LiveCDs.

I can not find the link right now, but there are boot disks and CDs
that will let you but from a USB device on systems that do not
support it. I ran across it on one of the live-USB sites.

Mikkel
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Re: Multiple IP addresses without aliasing?

[Ryan Lynch]

On 2009-08-29, Bill Davidsen  wrote:
> Note, adding a address via "ip" works in some odd ways you might not expect,
> and
> you have to set up routing by hand as well. What is wrong with the alias
> method
> which works for the rest of us?


I'm aware of the differences in how iproute2 constructs interfaces,
and the command syntax, (I do a lot of rule-based routing work), but I
appreciate the concern.

I can believe that you've never encountered an application or
situation where aliased interfaces become awkward.  I didn't think it
was asking a lot, to believe me that they do exist.  But it sounds
like maybe you don't, so here goes:

 * Have you ever tried versioning your system/build configurations in SVN?
 * And did any of those system/build configurations include
'ifcfg-eth0:0'-style alias config files?
 * And then, did you try checking out those config SVN repos, for
developer access, on Windows workstations?

If you don't have that experience, or something similar, then I can
understand why you don't appreciate my grumbling over a "method which
works for the rest of us."

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In the news: Soon to be published, Skype back-door trojan code?

[Daniel B. Thurman]

[perhaps off topic, but interesting security implications?]

I wonder if backdoors are installed to comply with
government & law enforcement requirements.  In the US,
Sen. Jay Rockefeller proposes to allow the POTUS to shutdown
public & private Internet for any reason they want?

Well back to Skype in the news:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/28/skype_trojan_source_code/

Fact or hype?

FWIW,
Dan

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Re: In the news: Soon to be published, Skype back-door trojan code?

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:30:53 -0700,
  "Daniel B. Thurman"  wrote:
>
> [perhaps off topic, but interesting security implications?]

Yeah, don't let LE install trojan software on machines you use.

> I wonder if backdoors are installed to comply with
> government & law enforcement requirements.  In the US,

The Skype backdoors that have been covered in public (recently and in the
past) that I have seen have all been additional software installed by LE
on the victum's machine, not something specifically built into Sykpe. Since
calls are dispatched through central servers and Skype is a US company,
presumably call record information is being captured by the US, en masse. Some
other governments probably also get easy access to this data.

> Fact or hype?

Probably both. The existance of trojans has come up before, this guy just
seems to be hyping his claim that he wrote one of them.

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Re: cannot play DVD's on Fedora 10 386

[Ryan B. Lynch]

On 08/29/2009 03:12 PM, Kevin Kempter wrote:
> I did a chmod 755 on /dev/dvd
> If we try and play a dvd we get this:
>
>
> The source can't be read.
>
> Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't
> contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (Error reading NAV packet.)
>   

Kevin,

Can you do an 'ls -la /dev/dvd*'?  Is /dev/dvd a symlink, or is it the
actual device node?  Is there a symlink, and if so, what does it point
to?  And, most importantly, what are the permissions of all these
symlinks and real device nodes, right now?

I ran into the same error message, on my machine, because /dev/dvd was a
symlink to /dev/dvd0--so I figure maybe yours could be, too?

-Ryan

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Re: cannot play DVD's on Fedora 10 386

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sat, 2009-08-29 at 13:12 -0600, Kevin Kempter wrote:
> Hi all;
> 
> I'm setting up Fedora 10 (i386) on a new laptop for my son.
> 
> I enabled the rpmfusion repos and did a full update. Then I enabled the linva 
> repo and installed libdvdcss, xine-lib-extras and dependancies
> 
> I did a chmod 755 on /dev/dvd
> If we try and play a dvd we get this:
> 
> 
> The source can't be read.
> 
> Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't
> contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (Error reading NAV packet.)
> 
> Any suggestions?

Is this a commercial DVD? If so, do you have the required codecs and
libcss? Hint: if it's a fresh install and you didn't add the rpmfusion
repo, that would explain it).

poc

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firefox/thunderbird doesn't render accented characters

[Mike Wright]

Hi all,

Currently using f10, although I can't say for certain on which version 
this problem appeared.


Both firefox and thunderbird replace accented text with a 
black-backgrounded question mark.  If I wget these files the characters 
display correctly.  If I save them from either of the mozilla apps the 
files are saved with the replaced characters instead of the originals.
View source on firefox is useless because even the source is mangled but 
with thunderbird I can see replacements such as these: =A0, =B9, =E6. 
Just in case those get mangled they are "equal-sign capital A zero", 
"equal-sign capital B nine", "equal-sign capital E six".


I've tried setting character encoding to utf-8, utf-16, iso-8859-1, 
iso-8859-15, windows-1252 with no effect.


This is particularly horrible on the mailing lists where an email will 
display properly but when replied-to arrives mangled with black blotches 
throughout.  The longer the thread the more black appears until it 
reaches a point where it is not even worth attempting to read it anymore.


Does anybody know what this is about and what I can do to remedy the 
situation?


Thanks for any help,
Mike Wright

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Re: cannot play DVD's on Fedora 10 386

[Ryan B. Lynch]

On 08/29/2009 04:00 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-08-29 at 13:12 -0600, Kevin Kempter wrote:
>   
>> Hi all;
>>
>> I'm setting up Fedora 10 (i386) on a new laptop for my son.
>>
>> I enabled the rpmfusion repos and did a full update. Then I enabled the 
>> linva 
>> repo and installed libdvdcss, xine-lib-extras and dependancies
>>
>> I did a chmod 755 on /dev/dvd
>> If we try and play a dvd we get this:
>>
>>
>> The source can't be read.
>>
>> Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't
>> contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (Error reading NAV packet.)
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>> 
> Is this a commercial DVD? If so, do you have the required codecs and
> libcss? Hint: if it's a fresh install and you didn't add the rpmfusion
> repo, that would explain it).
>   

If you read the poster's email, he notes pretty clearly that he
installed CSS via LIvna, already.  BTW, the package name is 'libdvdcss',
not 'libcss', and it's not in RPMFusion--it's still in Livna, because of
the legal issues.  (The poster noted both of these things.)

-Ryan


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Re: Problems with Connection on F10

[Aaron Gray]

2009/8/29 Aaron Gray 

> I keep on getting problem with getting higher level connections on F10 over
> Ethernet.
> I can ping and do low level comms, but cannot get Firefox to work.
>

I added the new local DNS addresses and it works on one level now.


>
> The connection icon is showing a red cross what ever I do.
>

Its still red, I'll try a reboot after doing a YUM update and see if that
does the trick.

Aaron
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Re: In the news: Soon to be published, Skype back-door trojan code?

[Ryan B. Lynch]

On 08/29/2009 03:56 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> on the victum's machine, not something specifically built into Sykpe. Since
> calls are dispatched through central servers and Skype is a US company,
> presumably call record information is being captured by the US, en masse. Some
> other governments probably also get easy access to this data.
>   

I haven't heard any allegations that Skype is forwarding all of its call
records to any government agencies, though it's not unbelievable.

But either way, those call records could certainly be obtained via court
order, in a criminal investigation, or even just a civil lawsuit, if
they exist.

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Re: Multiple IP addresses without aliasing?

[Bill Davidsen]

Ryan Lynch wrote:

On 2009-08-29, Bill Davidsen  wrote:

Note, adding a address via "ip" works in some odd ways you might not expect,
and
you have to set up routing by hand as well. What is wrong with the alias
method
which works for the rest of us?



I'm aware of the differences in how iproute2 constructs interfaces,
and the command syntax, (I do a lot of rule-based routing work), but I
appreciate the concern.

I can believe that you've never encountered an application or
situation where aliased interfaces become awkward.  I didn't think it
was asking a lot, to believe me that they do exist.  But it sounds
like maybe you don't, so here goes:

 * Have you ever tried versioning your system/build configurations in SVN?
 * And did any of those system/build configurations include
'ifcfg-eth0:0'-style alias config files?
 * And then, did you try checking out those config SVN repos, for
developer access, on Windows workstations?

I can assure you that my last Windows work was on Win-3.5 and that I would not 
in any event ever be checking out Linux developer files on a Windows 
workstation. I actually can't imagine those config files being useful on 
Windows, but if your point was that I don't share the problem, you're right, and 
thank God for it.



If you don't have that experience, or something similar, then I can
understand why you don't appreciate my grumbling over a "method which
works for the rest of us."

But now you have gotten to the real heart of the matter, which is not the 
aliases at all, but the filenames, if I read it correctly. And that opens up a 
whole can of solutions, depending on the part of Windows which is upset with the 
colon. Not knowing where the problem lies, I can't offer the slightest help, but 
there are other shells for Windows if the problem lies there, or whole Linux 
versions running in VM, paravirtualized, under qemu, or as a microkernel using 
colinux.


Your problem, if I understand it, is a Windows problem, not Fedora.

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Re: named chroot question

[Bill Davidsen]

Gabriel VLASIU wrote:

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On Fri, 28 Aug 2009, chloe K wrote:


I already stop the named and killall bind process.
how can I clear the files under named/chroot/proc/ folder as those files are 
restricted me for tar backup?
 
/var/named/chroot/proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/lo/accept_ra_defrtr

/var/named/chroot/proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/lo/max_addresses
/var/named/chroot/proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/lo/max_desync_factor
/var/named/chroot/proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/lo/regen_max_retry
/var/named/chroot/proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/lo/temp_prefered_lft


Example:

cd /
tar -cv --exclude proc/* --exclude sys/* --exclude var/named/chroot/proc/* 
--exclude /mnt/mobile_drive/* -jf /mnt/mobile_drive/backup.tar.bz2 *

"man tar" sometimes help ... 


It does, see the -X option, for instance.  ;-)

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Re: F11 OS Instability? Twice now, the system locks out!

[stan]

On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 14:55:52 -0400
brian  wrote:

> On 08/29/2009 01:39 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> >
> > The last time I had a system lock-out was several
> > weeks ago, and just today, I experienced another.
> 
> It's locked up on me about a half dozen or so times in the past week. 
> Additionally, the box suspends at random times[1] (it's not a laptop) 
> and cannot be brought back out of it.

When F11 first came out I experienced lockups with FF 3.5 (and only FF)
about 1 in 3 or 4 times when I was starting it.  I started compiling my
own kernels, elmininating all the functionality I don't use, tuning
other parameters to different values than the default Fedora kernel,
optimizing for my hardware and use case.  Since then I haven't had a
lockup.

Moral of the story - I think some of the pieces in the kernel don't
play nice together.  

No hard evidence for the suspicion, strictly anecdotal.  I now run the
official kernel only long enough to download the src.rpm and compile a
custom kernel so I don't know if the problem is still there.

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Re: add an extra ip address to fedora server (one net card)

[Bill Davidsen]

online.service@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks

This is the info
-
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:19:99:0D:CC:14
  inet addr:77.78.8.89  Bcast:77.78.8.89  Mask:255.255.255.255
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:509 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:473 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:72383 (70.6 KiB)  TX bytes:195760 (191.1 KiB)
  Interrupt:23 Base address:0xe000

Clink suggested letting DHCP configure your system, and if that's what it gave 
you it is really broken! This would leave your system only talking to itself.


How about letting DHCP do you settings then post the output of "netstat -rn" 
back to us?


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Re: In the news: Soon to be published, Skype back-door trojan code?

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 16:13:39 -0400,
  "Ryan B. Lynch"  wrote:
> 
> But either way, those call records could certainly be obtained via court
> order, in a criminal investigation, or even just a civil lawsuit, if
> they exist.

Not in the US. Some high level government spook would talk to the CEO
of Skype (or EBay if they are still owned by them) and ask them to
cooperate in comabtting terrorism. And if the CEO hestiated, they would
point to what happened to the CEO of QWest who didn't roll over when
he was asked to. (e.g QWest lost of a lot of dollars worth of government
contracts and the CEO was investigated and convicted of insider trading.
And insider trading is something that happens a lot and seems to be only
prosecuted in extreme cases and/or when someone wants to make an example of
someone.)

I am about 95% certain that the US goverment gets copies of all skype
call records in near real time.

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Re: In the news: Soon to be published, Skype back-door trojan code?

[Joel Gomberg]

On 08/29/2009 12:56 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:

On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:30:53 -0700,
   "Daniel B. Thurman"  wrote:


[perhaps off topic, but interesting security implications?]


Yeah, don't let LE install trojan software on machines you use.


I wonder if backdoors are installed to comply with
government&  law enforcement requirements.  In the US,


The Skype backdoors that have been covered in public (recently and in the
past) that I have seen have all been additional software installed by LE
on the victum's machine, not something specifically built into Sykpe. Since
calls are dispatched through central servers and Skype is a US company,
presumably call record information is being captured by the US, en masse. Some
other governments probably also get easy access to this data.


What do you mean when you say that "calls are dispatched through central 
servers?"  I thought Skype was P2P application:


http://www.skype.com/intl/en/help/guides/p2pexplained/

They say they use a global index with a decentralized user directory, but I have 
no idea what this means in practice.  When you talk about call record 
information being captured, do you mean summary records or recordings?  I would 
find it much easier to believe the former than the latter.


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Re: In the news: Soon to be published, Skype back-door trojan code?

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 14:09:18 -0700,
  Joel Gomberg  wrote:
>
> They say they use a global index with a decentralized user directory, but 
> I have no idea what this means in practice.  When you talk about call 
> record information being captured, do you mean summary records or 
> recordings?  I would find it much easier to believe the former than the 
> latter.

Who called who, not recordings. Traffic analysis is a lot cheaper than
trying to analyze the content of traffic.

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Re: In the news: Soon to be published, Skype back-door trojan code?

[Daniel B. Thurman]

On 08/29/2009 02:09 PM, Joel Gomberg wrote:

On 08/29/2009 12:56 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:

On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:30:53 -0700,
   "Daniel B. Thurman"  wrote:


[perhaps off topic, but interesting security implications?]


Yeah, don't let LE install trojan software on machines you use.


I wonder if backdoors are installed to comply with
government&  law enforcement requirements.  In the US,


The Skype backdoors that have been covered in public (recently and in 
the

past) that I have seen have all been additional software installed by LE
on the victum's machine, not something specifically built into Sykpe. 
Since

calls are dispatched through central servers and Skype is a US company,
presumably call record information is being captured by the US, en 
masse. Some

other governments probably also get easy access to this data.


What do you mean when you say that "calls are dispatched through 
central servers?"  I thought Skype was P2P application:


http://www.skype.com/intl/en/help/guides/p2pexplained/

They say they use a global index with a decentralized user directory, 
but I have no idea what this means in practice.  When you talk about 
call record information being captured, do you mean summary records or 
recordings?  I would find it much easier to believe the former than 
the latter.



I would presume that once a call record is given,
it leads to the source of everything else when
requested by the authorities or anyone else
with a judge's authorization?  The sticking point
in this arrangement, I think, allows the authorities
to "peek" legally, and if enough [criminal] information
is obtained from this call record, to pursue further
information a with FISA, court order, or "by some other
classified [spook?] means"?


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Re: In the news: Soon to be published, Skype back-door trojan code?

[Daniel B. Thurman]

On 08/29/2009 02:16 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:

On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 14:09:18 -0700,
   Joel Gomberg  wrote:
   

They say they use a global index with a decentralized user directory, but
I have no idea what this means in practice.  When you talk about call
record information being captured, do you mean summary records or
recordings?  I would find it much easier to believe the former than the
latter.
 

Who called who, not recordings. Traffic analysis is a lot cheaper than
trying to analyze the content of traffic.
   

With data-mining, its not terribly hard to "gather more information"?

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Re: [OT] Run LiveUSB on machine that can't boot from usbkey?

[Mike Cloaked]

Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> 
> 
> I can not find the link right now, but there are boot disks and CDs
> that will let you but from a USB device on systems that do not
> support it. I ran across it on one of the live-USB sites.
> 
> Mikkel
> 
> 

It would be really useful to have the link...
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Re: cannot play DVD's on Fedora 10 386

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sat, 2009-08-29 at 16:07 -0400, Ryan B. Lynch wrote:
> On 08/29/2009 04:00 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sat, 2009-08-29 at 13:12 -0600, Kevin Kempter wrote:
> >   
> >> Hi all;
> >>
> >> I'm setting up Fedora 10 (i386) on a new laptop for my son.
> >>
> >> I enabled the rpmfusion repos and did a full update. Then I enabled the 
> >> linva 
> >> repo and installed libdvdcss, xine-lib-extras and dependancies
> >>
> >> I did a chmod 755 on /dev/dvd
> >> If we try and play a dvd we get this:
> >>
> >>
> >> The source can't be read.
> >>
> >> Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't
> >> contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (Error reading NAV packet.)
> >>
> >> Any suggestions?
> >> 
> > Is this a commercial DVD? If so, do you have the required codecs and
> > libcss? Hint: if it's a fresh install and you didn't add the rpmfusion
> > repo, that would explain it).
> >   
> 
> If you read the poster's email, he notes pretty clearly that he
> installed CSS via LIvna, already.  BTW, the package name is 'libdvdcss',
> not 'libcss', and it's not in RPMFusion--it's still in Livna, because of
> the legal issues.  (The poster noted both of these things.)

I guess my brain was not fully engaged. Apologies.

poc

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Re: In the news: Soon to be published, Skype back-door trojan code?

[Fernando Cassia]

On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Daniel B. Thurman  wrote:

>
> [perhaps off topic, but interesting security implications?]
>
> I wonder if backdoors are installed to comply with
> government & law enforcement requirements.  In the US,
> Sen. Jay Rockefeller proposes to allow the POTUS to shutdown
> public & private Internet for any reason they want?
>
> Well back to Skype in the news:
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/28/skype_trojan_source_code/
>
> Fact or hype?
>
> FWIW,
> Dan


Welcome to the Real World all your calls are belong to THE MAN (NSA)...

"SAFARI C(Cubed) is the only totally integrated carrier class VoIP switch
that incorporates -- at no additional cost -- all of the components that
make up the distributed voice switching infrastructure, eliminating the need
for operators to purchase, maintain, upgrade and regression test separate
Call Management Servers, Media Gateways, *Call Detail Records (Record
Keeping) Servers*, Announcement Servers, Signaling Gateways, Ethernet
Switches and *Legal Intercept (CALEA) servers*."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Assistance_for_Law_Enforcement_Act

FC
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RE: [OT] Run LiveUSB on machine that can't boot from usbkey?

[jackson byers]

> I have an old laptop that I use for testing new versions of Fedora - however
> although it will boot of a physical CD containing a LiveCD (say of F12
> Alpha), it is old enough not to be able to boot off usb devices since the
> BIOS is not arranged to do so. So a usbkey that contains a LiveCD that works
> perfectly well on other machines won't play on this particular machine
> (Fijitsu-Siemens Amilo D 6800)

> Can anyone point me to a reference to work around this by booting off say an
> altered grub stansa in the HD which then refers to a plugged in usbkey to
> continue loading the LiveCD files from the usbkey? Or something similar?

Mike,
maybe my experience with booting from an external usb disk will help.
I also wasn't
"able to boot off usb devices since the BIOS is not arranged to do so"
[either that or I am too dense to properly fiddle with the BIOS].

So, what I did was copy the vmlinuz, initrd.img somewhere
onto  my internal HDisks, specifically in my case on /dev/sdb1.
Here is my grub.conf stanza for f10 booting off of the 2nd partition
of my usbdisk, [label rootusb2]

#24...68 ->  29..78
title Fedora (2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10.i686)usb2new TEST bootf10usb2 vga=795
root (hd1,0) #sdb1
kernel /bootf10usb2/vmlinuz-2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10.i686 ro
root=UUID=8f24a787-132c-4dc8-9126-9d85292e349f quiet vga=795
initrd /bootf10usb2/initrd-2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10.i686.img


I also did this recently with an f11 hdinstall into usb3.

Detail:
my usb disk is seen as sdc when booted up into my my main f10 on sda1
but when this bootf10usb2 boots it is seen as sda2, i.e,
disk order is reordered tousb=sda, hd1=sdb, hd2=sdc.

from blkid run from my mainf10on sda1:
/dev/sdc2: LABEL="rootusb2"
UUID="8f24a787-132c-4dc8-9126-9d85292e349f" TYPE="ext3"


However, this does not affect the "root (hd1,0)" for sdb1
ie that retains nonreorderd syntax,
even though when booted up f10usb2 sees sdb1 as sdc1.

This solution is not perfect of course.
I can't just take this external usb as is
to another computer and have this f10usb2 boot up
because the kernel, initrd can't be found.

HTH
Jack

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Re: In the news: Soon to be published, Skype back-door trojan code?

[Steve Blackwell]

On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:37:02 -0300
Fernando Cassia  wrote:

> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Daniel B. Thurman 
> wrote:
> 
> >
> > [perhaps off topic, but interesting security implications?]
> >
> > I wonder if backdoors are installed to comply with
> > government & law enforcement requirements.  In the US,
> > Sen. Jay Rockefeller proposes to allow the POTUS to shutdown
> > public & private Internet for any reason they want?
> >
> > Well back to Skype in the news:
> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/28/skype_trojan_source_code/
> >
> > Fact or hype?
> >
> > FWIW,
> > Dan
> 
> 
> Welcome to the Real World all your calls are belong to THE MAN
> (NSA)...
> 
> "SAFARI C(Cubed) is the only totally integrated carrier class VoIP
> switch that incorporates -- at no additional cost -- all of the
> components that make up the distributed voice switching
> infrastructure, eliminating the need for operators to purchase,
> maintain, upgrade and regression test separate Call Management
> Servers, Media Gateways, *Call Detail Records (Record Keeping)
> Servers*, Announcement Servers, Signaling Gateways, Ethernet Switches
> and *Legal Intercept (CALEA) servers*."
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Assistance_for_Law_Enforcement_Act
> 
> FC

If you are so inclined read "The Puzzle
Palace" 
(http://www.amazon.com/Puzzle-Palace-National-Intelligence-Organization/dp/0140067485/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1251583025&sr=1-1)

Consider the advances in computers since that time (1980) and
extrapolate the surveillance capabilities that the book claims to today.

Steve
the advances 

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Re: [OT] Run LiveUSB on machine that can't boot from usbkey?

[Kam Leo]

On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 2:47 PM, jackson byers wrote:
>> I have an old laptop that I use for testing new versions of Fedora - however
>> although it will boot of a physical CD containing a LiveCD (say of F12
>> Alpha), it is old enough not to be able to boot off usb devices since the
>> BIOS is not arranged to do so. So a usbkey that contains a LiveCD that works
>> perfectly well on other machines won't play on this particular machine
>> (Fijitsu-Siemens Amilo D 6800)
>
>> Can anyone point me to a reference to work around this by booting off say an
>> altered grub stansa in the HD which then refers to a plugged in usbkey to
>> continue loading the LiveCD files from the usbkey? Or something similar?
>
> Mike,
> maybe my experience with booting from an external usb disk will help.
> I also wasn't
> "able to boot off usb devices since the BIOS is not arranged to do so"
> [either that or I am too dense to properly fiddle with the BIOS].
>
> So, what I did was copy the vmlinuz, initrd.img somewhere
> onto  my internal HDisks, specifically in my case on /dev/sdb1.
> Here is my grub.conf stanza for f10 booting off of the 2nd partition
> of my usbdisk, [label rootusb2]
>
> #24...68 ->  29..78
> title Fedora (2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10.i686)usb2new TEST bootf10usb2     
> vga=795
>        root (hd1,0) #sdb1
>        kernel /bootf10usb2/vmlinuz-2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10.i686 ro
> root=UUID=8f24a787-132c-4dc8-9126-9d85292e349f quiet vga=795
>        initrd /bootf10usb2/initrd-2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10.i686.img
>
>
> I also did this recently with an f11 hdinstall into usb3.
>
> Detail:
> my usb disk is seen as sdc when booted up into my my main f10 on sda1
> but when this bootf10usb2 boots it is seen as sda2, i.e,
> disk order is reordered to    usb=sda, hd1=sdb, hd2=sdc.
>
> from blkid run from my mainf10on sda1:
> /dev/sdc2: LABEL="rootusb2"
> UUID="8f24a787-132c-4dc8-9126-9d85292e349f" TYPE="ext3"
>
>
> However, this does not affect the "root (hd1,0)" for sdb1
> ie that retains nonreorderd syntax,
> even though when booted up f10usb2 sees sdb1 as sdc1.
>
> This solution is not perfect of course.
> I can't just take this external usb as is
> to another computer and have this f10usb2 boot up
> because the kernel, initrd can't be found.
>
> HTH
> Jack

Try UNETBOOTIN, http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/

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Re: fedoraproject.org down (ipv6 only)

[Michael Cronenworth]

On 08/28/2009 08:44 PM, Mike McGrath wrote:

We had one of those deals where DNS was rolled out before the actual hosts
came online with ipv6, please do let me know if you're still seeing this
issue


I waited 24 hours and I still don't see a ping response or HTTP. It may 
be my end though since others are reporting it working.


$ traceroute6 fedoraproject.org
traceroute to fedoraproject.org (2610:28:200:1::fed0:1), 30 hops max, 80 
byte packets

 1  2002:615d:dfb4:1::1 (2002:615d:dfb4:1::1)  1.965 ms  2.555 ms  2.443 ms
 2  * * *
 3  sl-bb1v6-sea-t-1001.sprintv6.net (2001:440:1239:1008::2)  75.719 
ms  76.949 ms  76.893 ms
 4  2001:440:1239:1013::2 (2001:440:1239:1013::2)  101.082 ms  100.954 
ms  100.893 ms

 5  * * *
 6  * * *
 7  * * *
 8  * * *
 9  * * *
10  * * *
11  * * *
12  * * *
13  * * *
14  * *^C


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Re: fedoraproject.org down (ipv6 only)

[Mike McGrath]

On Sat, 29 Aug 2009, Michael Cronenworth wrote:

> On 08/28/2009 08:44 PM, Mike McGrath wrote:
> > We had one of those deals where DNS was rolled out before the actual hosts
> > came online with ipv6, please do let me know if you're still seeing this
> > issue
>
> I waited 24 hours and I still don't see a ping response or HTTP. It may be my
> end though since others are reporting it working.
>
> $ traceroute6 fedoraproject.org
> traceroute to fedoraproject.org (2610:28:200:1::fed0:1), 30 hops max, 80 byte
> packets
>  1  2002:615d:dfb4:1::1 (2002:615d:dfb4:1::1)  1.965 ms  2.555 ms  2.443 ms
>  2  * * *
>  3  sl-bb1v6-sea-t-1001.sprintv6.net (2001:440:1239:1008::2)  75.719 ms
> 76.949 ms  76.893 ms
>  4  2001:440:1239:1013::2 (2001:440:1239:1013::2)  101.082 ms  100.954 ms
> 100.893 ms
>  5  * * *
>  6  * * *
>  7  * * *
>  8  * * *
>  9  * * *
> 10  * * *
> 11  * * *
> 12  * * *
> 13  * * *
> 14  * *^C
>

When you get a moment can you stop by #fedora-admin on irc.freenode.net.
So far this is the only issue reported but I'd like to follow up with it.
The weekends are hit and miss but during the week I'm sure one of us
involved in this can do better testing.

-Mike

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Re: Multiple IP addresses without aliasing?

[Ryan B. Lynch]

On 08/29/2009 04:18 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> But now you have gotten to the real heart of the matter, which is not
> the aliases at all, but the filenames, if I read it correctly. And
> that opens up a whole can of solutions, depending on the part of
> Windows which is upset with the colon. Not knowing where the problem
> lies, I can't offer the slightest help, but there are other shells for
> Windows if the problem lies there, or whole Linux versions running in
> VM, paravirtualized, under qemu, or as a microkernel using colinux.

I'm going to save you several hours' worth of researching:  NTFS isn't
capable of handling ':' characters in path names.  There is no simple
way to handle this, client-side, even in SVN.

You present a great idea, though--virtual machines!  Each Windows user
could install and run a whole virtual machine, and just switch over to
using Linux.  That sounds like a fantastic idea.  It's so easy, too--all
I'd have to do is:

 - install virtualization software on those workstations
 - find or build a suitable Linux image
 - convince Windows users that the memory and disk sacrifices are worthwhile
 - teach/convince Windows users to use a Linux interface, dev tools, etc.
 - support the users, maintain the Linux images, etc.

Man, and I was going to write a 10-line BASH script that runs a couple
of 'ip addr' commands.  Crazy, I know--I'm glad I can use virtualization
to solve this problem, instead.

> Your problem, if I understand it, is a Windows problem, not Fedora.

That's a bit of a philosophical question, isn't it?

But this is getting kind of silly.  My original question has been
answered:  The Fedora network init scripts DO NOT support multiple IPs,
end of story.

-Ryan

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Re: fedoraproject.org down (ipv6 only)

[Chris Adams]

Once upon a time, Michael Cronenworth  said:
> I waited 24 hours and I still don't see a ping response or HTTP. It may 
> be my end though since others are reporting it working.
> 
> $ traceroute6 fedoraproject.org
> traceroute to fedoraproject.org (2610:28:200:1::fed0:1), 30 hops max, 80 
> byte packets
>  1  2002:615d:dfb4:1::1 (2002:615d:dfb4:1::1)  1.965 ms  2.555 ms  2.443 ms
>  2  * * *
>  3  sl-bb1v6-sea-t-1001.sprintv6.net (2001:440:1239:1008::2)  75.719 
> ms  76.949 ms  76.893 ms
>  4  2001:440:1239:1013::2 (2001:440:1239:1013::2)  101.082 ms  100.954 
> ms  100.893 ms

I also have an IPv6 tunnel to Sprint, and I see it working:

traceroute6 to fedoraproject.org (2610:28:200:1::fed0:1) from 
2001:440::ff4b::2, 64 hops max, 12 byte packets
 1  sl-bb1v6-fw-t-37.sprintv6.net (2001:440::ff4b::1)  21.514 ms  21.615 ms 
 21.472 ms
 2  sl-bb1v6-sea-t-1001.sprintv6.net (2001:440:1239:1008::2)  88.558 ms  88.986 
ms  88.611 ms
 3  2001:440:1239:1013::2 (2001:440:1239:1013::2)  112.097 ms  112.111 ms  
128.273 ms
 4  ge-0-1-0.82.rtr.salt.net.internet2.edu (2001:468:ff:17c4::1)  139.529 ms  
140.165 ms  139.725 ms
 5  * * *
 6  * * *
 7  * * *
 8  2001:468::155::2 (2001:468::155::2)  143.351 ms  161.345 ms  
161.480 ms
 9  2610:28:10e:2::1 (2610:28:10e:2::1)  146.344 ms  145.950 ms  147.411 ms
10  2610:28:105:13::2 (2610:28:105:13::2)  145.395 ms  148.297 ms  146.027 ms
11  2610:28:200:1::fed0:1 (2610:28:200:1::fed0:1)  146.802 ms !P  150.567 ms !P 
 150.150 ms !P

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Re: No IPv6 traffic

[Michael Fleming]

On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:26:06 -0400
Jim  wrote:

> On 08/29/2009 06:23 AM, Clodoaldo Pinto Neto wrote:
> > When capturing the traffic with Wireshark there is no IPv6 traffic
> > at all. When I set network.dns.disableIPv6 to true I can see all
> > IPv4 in Wireshark. This is Fedora 10 64.
> >
> > While it is easy to solve it for Firefox there are many services
> > that can't connect even if I disable IPv6 in the system. One
> > symptom is Yum has to try repetitively until it finds a suitable
> > host:
> >
> > http://mirrors.ucr.ac.cr/fedora/releases/10/Everything/x86_64/os/repodata/repomd.xml:
> > [Errno 4] IOError:
> > Trying other mirror.
> >
> > Another is that the weather applet and fold...@home can't connect.
> > When I disable IPv6 in the system the applet connects but Yum
> > behaves the same (multiple tries) and still fold...@home can't
> > connect.
> >
> > My name servers are set to opendns:
> >
> > # cat /etc/resolv.conf
> > # Generated by NetworkManager
> > nameserver 208.67.220.220
> > nameserver 208.67.222.222
> > nameserver 10.1.1.1
> >
> > # cat /etc/sysconfig/network
> > NETWORKING=yes
> > HOSTNAME=d2.localdomain
> > NETWORKING_IPV6=yes
> >
> > # cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> > # Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit
> > Ethernet controller
> > DEVICE=eth0
> > BOOTPROTO=none
> > DNS1=208.67.220.220
> > DNS2=208.67.222.222
> > DNS3=10.1.1.1
> > GATEWAY=10.1.1.1
> > HWADDR=00:21:97:00:79:21
> > IPADDR=10.1.1.110
> > NETMASK=255.0.0.0
> > ONBOOT=yes
> > TYPE=Ethernet
> > USERCTL=no
> > IPV6INIT=yes
> > NM_CONTROLLED=yes
> > PEERDNS=yes
> >
> > I have another machine, F11, behind the same ADSL router, Dlink DSL
> > 500B, without problems.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Regards, Clodoaldo
> >
> >
> This IPV6 thing is a problem in FC11 , FC10, everyone of the of the
> 12 boxes I have setup in FC11 I have had to do the below setup to
> even connect to rpmfusion.org.

Turning IPv6 related DNS lookups off (even in firefox) is NOT fixing the
issue - will people please stop posting this utter trash as helpful
information please? There's enough myths around IPv6 as it is and this
isn't helping.

(plus such people might want to look at how the getaddrinfo() call
works..)

The problem is the OP has *enabled* IPv6 - loaded the module etc. but
hasn't *configured* it. It won't magically set up a tunnel / 6to4 /
native connection, you have to do a little more tweaking

See ipv6-6to4.howto in the initscripts documentation
(/usr/share/doc/initscripts-/) for a brief primer on 6to4,
which will get you up and going without having to sign up for a tunnel
broker etc.

I have two IPv6 tunnels running - one on a Fedora 10 server (qbert,
served by my ISP here in Australia) and a CentOS VM (gyruss) through
Hurricane Electric - both work OK

[r...@qbert ~]# traceroute6 fedoraproject.org
traceroute to fedoraproject.org (2610:28:200:1::fed0:1), 30 hops max,
80 byte packets 
1  2001:44b8:61::62 (2001:44b8:61::62)  61.238 ms
63.470 ms  65.738 ms
2  vl67.cor1.adl6.internode.on.net
(2001:44b8:8060:8000::1)  67.064 ms  69.794 ms  70.104 ms
3 gi0-0.bdr1.adl6.internode.on.net (2001:44b8:8060:14::1)  72.050 ms * *
4  pos4-2.bdr1.syd7.internode.on.net (2001:44b8:b070:2::1)  98.805 ms *
*
5  pos1-3-0.bdr2.nrt1.internode.on.net (2001:44b8:f0a0:2::1)  217.948
ms  219.611 ms  221.365 ms

6  equinix-tyo.he.net (2001:de8:5::6939:1) 223.472 ms  197.651 ms
198.828 ms
7  2001:470:0:119::1 (2001:470:0:119::1)  310.388 ms
310.695 ms  309.959 ms
8 10gigabitethernet3-2.core1.pao1.he.net
(2001:470:0:32::2)  286.479 ms 286.684 ms  283.265 ms
9
snvang.abilene.ucaid.edu (2001:504:d::bd) 318.081 ms  318.509 ms
318.226 ms
10  * * *
11  * * *
12 2001:468::155::2
(2001:468::155::2)  358.482 ms  358.215 ms 357.666 ms
13 2610:28:10e:2::1 (2610:28:10e:2::1)  393.498 ms  393.133 ms  392.833
ms 
14  2610:28:105:13::2 (2610:28:105:13::2)  360.110 ms 360.089 ms
360.863 ms
15  2610:28:200:1::fed0:1 (2610:28:200:1::fed0:1)  361.113
ms !X 360.678 ms !X  361.396 ms !X

[mflem...@gyruss ~]$ traceroute6 fedoraproject.org
traceroute to fedoraproject.org (2610:28:200:1::fed0:1), 30 hops max, 40 byte 
packets
 1  dotprofile-1.tunnel.tserv8.dal1.ipv6.he.net (2001:470:1f0e:16f::1)  8.000 
ms  8.000 ms  8.000 ms
 2  gige-g2-14.core1.dal1.he.net (2001:470:0:78::1)  8.000 ms  8.000 ms  8.000 
ms
 3  10gigabitethernet1-4.core1.chi1.he.net (2001:470:0:c4::1)  36.002 ms  
36.002 ms  36.002 ms
 4  ge-2-2-0.11.rtr.chic.net.internet2.edu (2001:504:0:4:0:1:1537:1)  56.003 ms 
 56.003 ms  56.003 ms
 5  * * *
 6  2001:468::155::2 (2001:468::155::2)  68.004 ms  60.003 ms  60.004 ms
 7   (2610:28:10e:2::1)  64.004 ms  64.004 ms  64.004 ms
 8   (2610:28:105:13::2)  64.004 ms  64.004 ms  64.004 ms
 9   (2610:28:200:1::fed0:1)  68.004 ms !X  68.004 ms !X  68.004 ms !X

Michael.

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Re: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces

[Steven P. Ulrick]

> On Friday 28 August 2009 10:53:56 Steven P. Ulrick wrote:
> > > On Friday 28 August 2009 07:50:02 Anne Wilson wrote:
> > Well, now I have a new problem.  I have three desktops that each have a
> > different image on the background.  This is good.  My fourth desktop also
> > has a different image on it (again, this is good), BUT all the plasmoids
> > have disappeared from it!
> >
> > Actually, it is more like this:
> > Desktop 1: All the plasmoids have disappeared.
> >
> > Desktop 2: All the plasmoids remain on the desktop, but in different
> > positions and different sizes.
> >
> > Desktop 3: one of the plasmoids has actually become the size of the entire
> > desktop (with no way to re-size it) and the other plasmoids are still there,
> > and can be re-sized and moved around just like a "normal" plasmoid.
> >
> > Desktop 4: Same as Desktop 2
> >
> > OK, I just discovered that one of the desktops had been changed to "Folder
> > View" (That would have been Desktop 3)  So, after changing that back to
> > "Desktop View", Desktops 2, 3 & 4 now have all the original plasmoids. 
> > Unfortunately, like mentioned above, they were randomly rearranged, and I
> > will also have to re-size them.
> >
> > Desktop 1 still is nothing but a blank image.  All the plasmoids had
> > disappeared.
> >
> > Anyway, I need to get to work now :)
> >
> They are now Activities, not simple Desktops.  Before, plasmoids were on all 
> desktops, but if you want your desktops for different purposes you probably 
> neither need nor want all on every desktop.  Activities are independent.  On 
> each desktop place the plasmoids that fit the kind of work you do on that 
> desktop. :-)

Hello Anne :)
You will be gratified to know that after I got home from work, I played around 
a 
little bit with Activities.  After just a few minutes, I feel that I understand 
them very well.  Could they have a better name than "Activities?"  Probably.  
Are there no issues with the implementation that we now know as "Activities?"  
No, there are real issues.  But the important thing in my mind is that now I 
understand HOW to use this feature, and I also understand that to compare the 
relative difficulty in using this feature to the real ease of setting different 
background for each desktop in KDE 3.* is to compare apples and oranges...

As I understand it, this is how it works in a test account that I just set up 
on 
my system for this purpose:

1. Click on the little cashew thingy in the upper right hand corner of the 
desktop.
2. Select "Zoom out"
3. From the menu that now appears in the upper left hand corner, choose 
"Configure Plasma"
4. On the dialog that comes up, check "Different activity for each desktop" and 
click "OK"  Four new "Activities" were immediately placed on the display.
5. Set Backgrounds, add widgets to taste.  (There seems to be two ways to do 
this.  Also, all I am trying to do now is eliminate SOME of the mystery behind 
"Activities..."

If you select "Zoom Out" from the original desktop, your original desktop 
becomes 
one of your new "Activities," all accessible from your friendly little pager...

If you select "Zoom Out" from one of your NEW activities, your original desktop 
is NOT included amongst the desktops that are accessible from your pager.
If you choose this option, your original desktop is NOT deleted.  It just is 
not 
displayed in your pager.  In fact, you can keep your new activities, and go 
back 
to using your old desktop if you choose, with no fear of losing your new 
activities...

But I have NO idea what "Use a separate dashboard" on the "Configure Plasma" 
menu 
means...

The cool part to all this (for me anyway,) is that before, you could only have 
different programs open on different desktops.  You always had the same icons.  
With KDE4, you can have completely different plasmoids and icons on as many 
desktops as you can configure.  To accomplish the same thing under KDE 3.*, I 
think you would have had to have different users for different purposes.

Anyway, thank you Anne for informing us of this feature.

Steven P. Ulrick

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Re: No IPv6 traffic

[Clodoaldo Neto]

2009/8/29 Michael Fleming :
> On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:26:06 -0400
> Jim  wrote:
>
>> On 08/29/2009 06:23 AM, Clodoaldo Pinto Neto wrote:
>> > When capturing the traffic with Wireshark there is no IPv6 traffic
>> > at all. When I set network.dns.disableIPv6 to true I can see all
>> > IPv4 in Wireshark. This is Fedora 10 64.
>> >
>> > While it is easy to solve it for Firefox there are many services
>> > that can't connect even if I disable IPv6 in the system. One
>> > symptom is Yum has to try repetitively until it finds a suitable
>> > host:
>> >
>> > http://mirrors.ucr.ac.cr/fedora/releases/10/Everything/x86_64/os/repodata/repomd.xml:
>> > [Errno 4] IOError:
>> > Trying other mirror.
>> >
>> > Another is that the weather applet and fold...@home can't connect.
>> > When I disable IPv6 in the system the applet connects but Yum
>> > behaves the same (multiple tries) and still fold...@home can't
>> > connect.
>> >
>> > My name servers are set to opendns:
>> >
>> > # cat /etc/resolv.conf
>> > # Generated by NetworkManager
>> > nameserver 208.67.220.220
>> > nameserver 208.67.222.222
>> > nameserver 10.1.1.1
>> >
>> > # cat /etc/sysconfig/network
>> > NETWORKING=yes
>> > HOSTNAME=d2.localdomain
>> > NETWORKING_IPV6=yes
>> >
>> > # cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
>> > # Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit
>> > Ethernet controller
>> > DEVICE=eth0
>> > BOOTPROTO=none
>> > DNS1=208.67.220.220
>> > DNS2=208.67.222.222
>> > DNS3=10.1.1.1
>> > GATEWAY=10.1.1.1
>> > HWADDR=00:21:97:00:79:21
>> > IPADDR=10.1.1.110
>> > NETMASK=255.0.0.0
>> > ONBOOT=yes
>> > TYPE=Ethernet
>> > USERCTL=no
>> > IPV6INIT=yes
>> > NM_CONTROLLED=yes
>> > PEERDNS=yes
>> >
>> > I have another machine, F11, behind the same ADSL router, Dlink DSL
>> > 500B, without problems.
>> >
>> > Any ideas?
>> >
>> > Regards, Clodoaldo
>> >
>> >
>> This IPV6 thing is a problem in FC11 , FC10, everyone of the of the
>> 12 boxes I have setup in FC11 I have had to do the below setup to
>> even connect to rpmfusion.org.
>
> Turning IPv6 related DNS lookups off (even in firefox) is NOT fixing the
> issue - will people please stop posting this utter trash as helpful
> information please? There's enough myths around IPv6 as it is and this
> isn't helping.
>
> (plus such people might want to look at how the getaddrinfo() call
> works..)
>
> The problem is the OP has *enabled* IPv6 - loaded the module etc. but
> hasn't *configured* it. It won't magically set up a tunnel / 6to4 /
> native connection, you have to do a little more tweaking

I never had to setup a tunnel. Why do I need it now? I didn't enable
IPv6. In instead I disabled it hoping it would help. I answered it
before and I will say it again. I don't care about IPv6. Not at all. I
just want my machine back to what it was before, that is, connections
to whatever needs it.

Clodoaldo
>
> See ipv6-6to4.howto in the initscripts documentation
> (/usr/share/doc/initscripts-/) for a brief primer on 6to4,
> which will get you up and going without having to sign up for a tunnel
> broker etc.
>
> I have two IPv6 tunnels running - one on a Fedora 10 server (qbert,
> served by my ISP here in Australia) and a CentOS VM (gyruss) through
> Hurricane Electric - both work OK
>
> [r...@qbert ~]# traceroute6 fedoraproject.org
> traceroute to fedoraproject.org (2610:28:200:1::fed0:1), 30 hops max,
> 80 byte packets
> 1  2001:44b8:61::62 (2001:44b8:61::62)  61.238 ms
> 63.470 ms  65.738 ms
> 2  vl67.cor1.adl6.internode.on.net
> (2001:44b8:8060:8000::1)  67.064 ms  69.794 ms  70.104 ms
> 3 gi0-0.bdr1.adl6.internode.on.net (2001:44b8:8060:14::1)  72.050 ms * *
> 4  pos4-2.bdr1.syd7.internode.on.net (2001:44b8:b070:2::1)  98.805 ms *
> *
> 5  pos1-3-0.bdr2.nrt1.internode.on.net (2001:44b8:f0a0:2::1)  217.948
> ms  219.611 ms  221.365 ms
>
> 6  equinix-tyo.he.net (2001:de8:5::6939:1) 223.472 ms  197.651 ms
> 198.828 ms
> 7  2001:470:0:119::1 (2001:470:0:119::1)  310.388 ms
> 310.695 ms  309.959 ms
> 8 10gigabitethernet3-2.core1.pao1.he.net
> (2001:470:0:32::2)  286.479 ms 286.684 ms  283.265 ms
> 9
> snvang.abilene.ucaid.edu (2001:504:d::bd) 318.081 ms  318.509 ms
> 318.226 ms
> 10  * * *
> 11  * * *
> 12 2001:468::155::2
> (2001:468::155::2)  358.482 ms  358.215 ms 357.666 ms
> 13 2610:28:10e:2::1 (2610:28:10e:2::1)  393.498 ms  393.133 ms  392.833
> ms
> 14  2610:28:105:13::2 (2610:28:105:13::2)  360.110 ms 360.089 ms
> 360.863 ms
> 15  2610:28:200:1::fed0:1 (2610:28:200:1::fed0:1)  361.113
> ms !X 360.678 ms !X  361.396 ms !X
>
> [mflem...@gyruss ~]$ traceroute6 fedoraproject.org
> traceroute to fedoraproject.org (2610:28:200:1::fed0:1), 30 hops max, 40 byte 
> packets
>  1  dotprofile-1.tunnel.tserv8.dal1.ipv6.he.net (2001:470:1f0e:16f::1)  8.000 
> ms  8.000 ms  8.000 ms
>  2  gige-g2-14.core1.dal1.he.net (2001:470:0:78::1)  8.000 ms  8.000 ms  
> 8.000 ms
>  3  10gigabitethernet1-4.core1.chi1.he.net (2001:470:0:c4::1)  36.002 ms  
> 36.002 ms  36.002 ms
>  4  ge-2-2-0.11.rtr.

Re: No IPv6 traffic

[Jim]

On 08/29/2009 08:15 PM, Michael Fleming wrote:

On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:26:06 -0400
Jim  wrote:

   

On 08/29/2009 06:23 AM, Clodoaldo Pinto Neto wrote:
 

When capturing the traffic with Wireshark there is no IPv6 traffic
at all. When I set network.dns.disableIPv6 to true I can see all
IPv4 in Wireshark. This is Fedora 10 64.

While it is easy to solve it for Firefox there are many services
that can't connect even if I disable IPv6 in the system. One
symptom is Yum has to try repetitively until it finds a suitable
host:

http://mirrors.ucr.ac.cr/fedora/releases/10/Everything/x86_64/os/repodata/repomd.xml:
[Errno 4] IOError:
Trying other mirror.

Another is that the weather applet and fold...@home can't connect.
When I disable IPv6 in the system the applet connects but Yum
behaves the same (multiple tries) and still fold...@home can't
connect.

My name servers are set to opendns:

# cat /etc/resolv.conf
# Generated by NetworkManager
nameserver 208.67.220.220
nameserver 208.67.222.222
nameserver 10.1.1.1

# cat /etc/sysconfig/network
NETWORKING=yes
HOSTNAME=d2.localdomain
NETWORKING_IPV6=yes

# cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
# Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit
Ethernet controller
DEVICE=eth0
BOOTPROTO=none
DNS1=208.67.220.220
DNS2=208.67.222.222
DNS3=10.1.1.1
GATEWAY=10.1.1.1
HWADDR=00:21:97:00:79:21
IPADDR=10.1.1.110
NETMASK=255.0.0.0
ONBOOT=yes
TYPE=Ethernet
USERCTL=no
IPV6INIT=yes
NM_CONTROLLED=yes
PEERDNS=yes

I have another machine, F11, behind the same ADSL router, Dlink DSL
500B, without problems.

Any ideas?

Regards, Clodoaldo


   

This IPV6 thing is a problem in FC11 , FC10, everyone of the of the
12 boxes I have setup in FC11 I have had to do the below setup to
even connect to rpmfusion.org.
 

Turning IPv6 related DNS lookups off (even in firefox) is NOT fixing the
issue - will people please stop posting this utter trash as helpful
information please? There's enough myths around IPv6 as it is and this
isn't helping.

(plus such people might want to look at how the getaddrinfo() call
works..)

The problem is the OP has *enabled* IPv6 - loaded the module etc. but
hasn't *configured* it. It won't magically set up a tunnel / 6to4 /
native connection, you have to do a little more tweaking

See ipv6-6to4.howto in the initscripts documentation
(/usr/share/doc/initscripts-/) for a brief primer on 6to4,
which will get you up and going without having to sign up for a tunnel
broker etc.

I have two IPv6 tunnels running - one on a Fedora 10 server (qbert,
served by my ISP here in Australia) and a CentOS VM (gyruss) through
Hurricane Electric - both work OK

[r...@qbert ~]# traceroute6 fedoraproject.org
traceroute to fedoraproject.org (2610:28:200:1::fed0:1), 30 hops max,
80 byte packets
1  2001:44b8:61::62 (2001:44b8:61::62)  61.238 ms
63.470 ms  65.738 ms
2  vl67.cor1.adl6.internode.on.net
(2001:44b8:8060:8000::1)  67.064 ms  69.794 ms  70.104 ms
3 gi0-0.bdr1.adl6.internode.on.net (2001:44b8:8060:14::1)  72.050 ms * *
4  pos4-2.bdr1.syd7.internode.on.net (2001:44b8:b070:2::1)  98.805 ms *
*
5  pos1-3-0.bdr2.nrt1.internode.on.net (2001:44b8:f0a0:2::1)  217.948
ms  219.611 ms  221.365 ms

6  equinix-tyo.he.net (2001:de8:5::6939:1) 223.472 ms  197.651 ms
198.828 ms
7  2001:470:0:119::1 (2001:470:0:119::1)  310.388 ms
310.695 ms  309.959 ms
8 10gigabitethernet3-2.core1.pao1.he.net
(2001:470:0:32::2)  286.479 ms 286.684 ms  283.265 ms
9
snvang.abilene.ucaid.edu (2001:504:d::bd) 318.081 ms  318.509 ms
318.226 ms
10  * * *
11  * * *
12 2001:468::155::2
(2001:468::155::2)  358.482 ms  358.215 ms 357.666 ms
13 2610:28:10e:2::1 (2610:28:10e:2::1)  393.498 ms  393.133 ms  392.833
ms
14  2610:28:105:13::2 (2610:28:105:13::2)  360.110 ms 360.089 ms
360.863 ms
15  2610:28:200:1::fed0:1 (2610:28:200:1::fed0:1)  361.113
ms !X 360.678 ms !X  361.396 ms !X

[mflem...@gyruss ~]$ traceroute6 fedoraproject.org
traceroute to fedoraproject.org (2610:28:200:1::fed0:1), 30 hops max, 40 byte 
packets
  1  dotprofile-1.tunnel.tserv8.dal1.ipv6.he.net (2001:470:1f0e:16f::1)  8.000 
ms  8.000 ms  8.000 ms
  2  gige-g2-14.core1.dal1.he.net (2001:470:0:78::1)  8.000 ms  8.000 ms  8.000 
ms
  3  10gigabitethernet1-4.core1.chi1.he.net (2001:470:0:c4::1)  36.002 ms  
36.002 ms  36.002 ms
  4  ge-2-2-0.11.rtr.chic.net.internet2.edu (2001:504:0:4:0:1:1537:1)  56.003 
ms  56.003 ms  56.003 ms
  5  * * *
  6  2001:468::155::2 (2001:468::155::2)  68.004 ms  60.003 ms  60.004 
ms
  7   (2610:28:10e:2::1)  64.004 ms  64.004 ms  64.004 ms
  8   (2610:28:105:13::2)  64.004 ms  64.004 ms  64.004 ms
  9   (2610:28:200:1::fed0:1)  68.004 ms !X  68.004 ms !X  68.004 ms !X

Michael.

   
Well Mr Fleming it takes care of the problem until someone figures out 
the real problem.


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Booting Fedora from inside windows

[john wendel]

Is there a way to boot a real OS on a windows box (without using a VM)?

I'm looking for a way to boot Fedora on a hostile windows XP box. The 
windows box is locked down with a BIOS password, won't boot a CD, 
disabled usb ports, and no way for me to install any windows programs. I 
believe the Ubuntu thing that runs Linux from windows requires the 
installation of a windows program, so it won't work in this environment.


Thanks!

John



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Re: [OT] Run LiveUSB on machine that can't boot from usbkey?

[Tony Nelson]

On 09-08-29 12:06:07, Mike Cloaked wrote:
> 
> I have an old laptop that I use for testing new versions of Fedora -
> however although it will boot of a physical CD containing a LiveCD 
> (say of F12 Alpha), it is old enough not to be able to boot off usb 
> devices since the BIOS is not arranged to do so. So a usbkey that 
> contains a LiveCD that works perfectly well on other machines won't 
> play on this particular machine (Fijitsu-Siemens Amilo D 6800)
> 
> Can anyone point me to a reference to work around this by booting off
> say an altered grub stansa in the HD which then refers to a plugged 
> in usbkey to continue loading the LiveCD files from the usbkey? Or 
> something similar?
 ...

Google "grub usb boot" and you'll probably be lucky.

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Re: Booting Fedora from inside windows

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sat, 2009-08-29 at 20:07 -0700, john wendel wrote:
> Is there a way to boot a real OS on a windows box (without using a VM)?
> 
> I'm looking for a way to boot Fedora on a hostile windows XP box. The 
> windows box is locked down with a BIOS password, won't boot a CD, 
> disabled usb ports, and no way for me to install any windows programs.

Short answer: not without cracking the BIOS password, pulling the BIOS
chip and replacing it, or similar drastic measures. I assume it can't
boot from the network either, given that everything else is locked down.

> I 
> believe the Ubuntu thing that runs Linux from windows requires the 
> installation of a windows program, so it won't work in this environment.

AFAIK the Ubuntu "thing" just uses a Linux filesystem image mapped into
a Windows file (so you can play with it without reformatting your disk).
It's not running under Windows.

poc

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USB I/O performance

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

Just a quick note to call people's attention to
http://marc-abramowitz.com/archives/2007/02/17/getting-good-performance-out-of-usb-hard-drives-in-linux/.
 This is a couple of years old but it worked like a charm for me.

Briefly, there's a kernel parameter
called /sys/block/sd[a,b,...]/device/max_sectors (for USB drives sda,
sdb etc.). This specifies the maximum size of a disk I/O operation for
USB storage devices in units of 512 bytes, the default value being 240,
i.e. 120KB (see http://www.linux-usb.org/FAQ.html#i5). The max_sectors
value can be changed doing "echo N > ..." as root, and can have a
dramatic effect on write performance for USB devices such as pendrives.

I tested this by writing over 2GB to a fresh VFAT filesystem on a 4GB
Kingston Data Traveller pendrive plugged into a USB2 port with the EHCI
driver (as indicated by dmesg). With the default setting, this took
nearly 90 minutes including a final sync to flush the buffers. Using a
max_sectors value of 1024 -- the highest the system would accept -- the
time was reduced to under 16 minutes, a better than 5 times speedup.
YMMV of course, as different brands of pendrive can have very different
performance characteristics.

Note that the value resets to the default when you unplug the drive, so
you need to set it manually each time. I don't know if there's a way to
do this automatically, or change the default value permanently.

Sorry of everyone already knew this, but I found it so useful I just had
to share it :-)

poc

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Re: USB I/O performance

[Jake Peavy]

On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan  wrote:

> Just a quick note to call people's attention to
>
> http://marc-abramowitz.com/archives/2007/02/17/getting-good-performance-out-of-usb-hard-drives-in-linux/.
> This is a couple of years old but it worked like a charm for me.
>
> Briefly, there's a kernel parameter
> called /sys/block/sd[a,b,...]/device/max_sectors (for USB drives sda,
> sdb etc.). This specifies the maximum size of a disk I/O operation for
> USB storage devices in units of 512 bytes, the default value being 240,
> i.e. 120KB (see http://www.linux-usb.org/FAQ.html#i5). The max_sectors
> value can be changed doing "echo N > ..." as root, and can have a
> dramatic effect on write performance for USB devices such as pendrives.
>
> I tested this by writing over 2GB to a fresh VFAT filesystem on a 4GB
> Kingston Data Traveller pendrive plugged into a USB2 port with the EHCI
> driver (as indicated by dmesg). With the default setting, this took
> nearly 90 minutes including a final sync to flush the buffers. Using a
> max_sectors value of 1024 -- the highest the system would accept -- the
> time was reduced to under 16 minutes, a better than 5 times speedup.
> YMMV of course, as different brands of pendrive can have very different
> performance characteristics.
>
> Note that the value resets to the default when you unplug the drive, so
> you need to set it manually each time. I don't know if there's a way to
> do this automatically, or change the default value 
> permanently.
>


There are probably other ways, but you could create a udev rule to run a
shell script to set the value each time your particular device was plugged:

http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html#external-run

HTH,
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If you want to be the most popular person in your class, whenever the
professor pauses in his lecture, just let out a big snort and say "How do
you figger that!" real loud. Then lean back and sort of smirk.

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gwave compile no-go on Fedora 10

[Comcast Mail]

I'm trying to compile gwave2-20090213.tar.gz and all I get is a config 
script error about a

missing guile module "gnome-2".

From the looks of things several of the required files are out of date. I 

have updated
the system to what ever are the current revisions, see below lists. It 
appears that several
of the files are out of date, and have been for some time now. I would try 
to build and
install the newer versions however I don't want to hose the system if the 
source versions

install differently than the native Fedora ones.

Anybody have any luck with gwave? All it does for me is crash every time I 
try to open a file
to view the data from a spice simulation. The program "gwave" is part of the 
gEDA suite.
The version I have that crashes all the time on my Fedora 10 box is Gwave2 
version 20070514.


Installed Versions:

guile.i396  5:1.8.5-1.fc10
g-wrap.i386  1.9.9-7.fc10
guile-gnome-platform 2.15.93-8.fc10
guile-cairo.i386 1.4.0-6.fc9
gtk2.i386  2.14.7-8.fc10
gtk+.i386  1:1.2.10-68.fc10

The "-devel" packages are also installed too, just didn't
include them in the above list.

http://gwave.sourceforge.net/

The sourceforge site above has the following listed as requirements:

GTK2 Version 2.12 has been tested.
Guile version 1.8.6
G-Wrap, a wrapper generator. version 1.9.11.
Guile-Gnome-Platform, version 2.16.1 or later.
Guile-cairo, version 1.4.0 or later. (required for guile-gnome-platform to 
support Gtk)


configure script output:

checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /bin/mkdir -p
checking for gawk... gawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no
checking for style of include used by make... GNU
checking for gcc... gcc
checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for suffix of executables...
checking for suffix of object files... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for gcc option to accept ISO C89... none needed
checking dependency style of gcc... gcc3
checking for gcc... (cached) gcc
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... (cached) yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes
checking for gcc option to accept ISO C89... (cached) none needed
checking dependency style of gcc... (cached) gcc3
checking for ranlib... ranlib
checking whether ln -s works... yes
checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl
checking for suitable graph... no
checking for an ANSI C-conforming const... yes
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
checking for grep that handles long lines and -e... /bin/grep
checking for egrep... /bin/grep -E
checking for ANSI C header files... yes
checking for sys/types.h... yes
checking for sys/stat.h... yes
checking for stdlib.h... yes
checking for string.h... yes
checking for memory.h... yes
checking for strings.h... yes
checking for inttypes.h... yes
checking for stdint.h... yes
checking for unistd.h... yes
checking for working memcmp... yes
checking regex.h usability... yes
checking regex.h presence... yes
checking for regex.h... yes
checking for regcomp... yes
checking for sys/types.h... (cached) yes
checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config
checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.8.0... yes (version 2.14.7)
checking for g_slice_set_config in -lc... yes
checking for tgoto in -ltermcap... yes
checking for readline in -lreadline... yes
checking for add_history in -lreadline... yes
checking for guile... /usr/bin/guile
checking for guile-config... /usr/bin/guile-config
checking for guile-tools... /usr/bin/guile-tools
checking libguile compile flags...   -pthread
checking libguile link flags...  -pthread -lguile
checking if (gnome-2) is available... no

73's

Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO 


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