Fedora repository issues: gnonlin-0.10.12-1.fc11.i586

[Terry Barnaby]

Hi,

For a few days now there is a depenancy issue in the Fedora repositories:

Missing Dependency: gstreamer-plugins-base >= 0.10.24 is needed by package 
gnonlin-0.10.12-1.fc11.i586 (updates)


Cheers


Terry

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Re: mobile broadband modem for linux?

[The Eye In The Sky]

L wrote:

Hi,

Any of you know working mobile broadband modem for linux (F10 F11)?


I already used many forms from Huawei, the USB-PCMCIA-PC Express. All 
just works.

I also use the PCMCIA from Option.

Fedora 11-Ubuntu 9.04 and OpenSuse

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live CD not PAE?

[Tom Horsley]

I've been upgrading my system and plugged in a fedora 11 live CD
just to see if it worked with new motherboard/cpu/memory (it did),
but /proc/meminfo showed only 4 gig (more or less), while there
are actually 8 gig in the system (and memtest can see all 8 gig).

Is this normal behavior with live CD?

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Re: Disappearing Kernels during Yum update

[Ed Greshko]

Kam Leo wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Steven F. LeBrun wrote:
>   
>> Over the past few weeks there have been kernel updates for Fedora 11.
>>
>> When my system receives updates, usually using yumex, and a new kernel is
>> installed, the oldest kernel in my /boot directory is deleted automatically
>> and any "title" commands in /boot/grub/grub.conf referring to those kernels
>> is also removed.  There are only three kernels at a time in my /boot
>> directory.
>>
>> So far this has not been a problem, though I almost lost some special
>> settings in my grub.conf file when old kernels were removed.
>>
>> My questions:
>>
>> What controls how many kernels, vmlinuz and associated files, are kept in
>> the /boot directory?
>>
>> Is there any way to change this to save a different number of kernels or
>> insure that a specific kernel is not automatically removed from your system?
>>
>> --
>>   Steven F. LeBrun
>> 
>
> Your request is showing a troubling trend among posters on this list.
> Many do not make use of the fabulous search engines provided by the
> likes of Yahoo, Microsoft, or Google.
>
> The other trend is that many do not bother to look at installed documentation.
>
> Please do a "man yum.conf" and "man yum" to learn about the most
> important utility in your toolbox. Then edit /etc/yum.conf and change
> the value for "installonly_limit"
>
>   
Geee  If you were going to go through the bother to accurately point
out a troubling trend the least you could have done is stopped typing
after "Please do a "man yum.conf" and "man yum" to learn about the most
important utility in your toolbox.".   :-)

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Re: Disappearing Kernels during Yum update

[Kam Leo]

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Steven F. LeBrun wrote:
> Over the past few weeks there have been kernel updates for Fedora 11.
>
> When my system receives updates, usually using yumex, and a new kernel is
> installed, the oldest kernel in my /boot directory is deleted automatically
> and any "title" commands in /boot/grub/grub.conf referring to those kernels
> is also removed.  There are only three kernels at a time in my /boot
> directory.
>
> So far this has not been a problem, though I almost lost some special
> settings in my grub.conf file when old kernels were removed.
>
> My questions:
>
> What controls how many kernels, vmlinuz and associated files, are kept in
> the /boot directory?
>
> Is there any way to change this to save a different number of kernels or
> insure that a specific kernel is not automatically removed from your system?
>
> --
>   Steven F. LeBrun

Your request is showing a troubling trend among posters on this list.
Many do not make use of the fabulous search engines provided by the
likes of Yahoo, Microsoft, or Google.

The other trend is that many do not bother to look at installed documentation.

Please do a "man yum.conf" and "man yum" to learn about the most
important utility in your toolbox. Then edit /etc/yum.conf and change
the value for "installonly_limit"

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Re: mobile broadband modem for linux?

[Jason Ish]

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Joerg Bergmann  wrote:

> I use a Vodafone branded MC950D from Novatel.
> Works fine for me with Network Manager, even
> with O2 instead of Vodafone. Have installed
> newest Firmware from the Vodafone site, the
> Novatel stick was available for 36 Euro at Ebay.
>

I've also had good luck with this modem, but from Rogers.  Unlocked it while
in Australia do use a on Virgin's prepaid data.  Has worked for me in
Fedora, Ubuntu and Arch just fine..
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Disappearing Kernels during Yum update

[Steven F. LeBrun]

Over the past few weeks there have been kernel updates for Fedora 11.

When my system receives updates, usually using yumex, and a new kernel 
is installed, the oldest kernel in my /boot directory is deleted 
automatically and any "title" commands in /boot/grub/grub.conf referring 
to those kernels is also removed.  There are only three kernels at a 
time in my /boot directory.


So far this has not been a problem, though I almost lost some special 
settings in my grub.conf file when old kernels were removed.


My questions:

What controls how many kernels, vmlinuz and associated files, are kept 
in the /boot directory?


Is there any way to change this to save a different number of kernels or 
insure that a specific kernel is not automatically removed from your system?


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understand binary and those who don't." /


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Re: mobile broadband modem for linux?

[Joerg Bergmann]

I use a Vodafone branded MC950D from Novatel.
Works fine for me with Network Manager, even
with O2 instead of Vodafone. Have installed
newest Firmware from the Vodafone site, the
Novatel stick was available for 36 Euro at Ebay.

Joerg

Am 04.09.2009 05:05, schrieb L:

Hi,

Any of you know working mobile broadband modem for linux (F10 F11)?

thanks
Y



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Re: selinux issue - please help

[Steven F. LeBrun]

On 09/03/2009 08:42 PM, chloe K wrote:

Hi all
how I have to set the selinux to disable?
to make webserver work
and
mysql work too
if not setting to 0, apache error log
(13)Permission denied: access to /admin denied
and mysql error
090903 19:43:19  InnoDB: Operating system error number 13 in a file 
operation.

InnoDB: The error means mysqld does not have the access rights to
InnoDB: the directory.
InnoDB: File name ./ibdata1
InnoDB: File operation call: 'open'.
InnoDB: Cannot continue operation.
Thank you



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One way to disable SELinux is to add the option "selinux=0" to your 
"kernel /vmlinuz-..." line in the /boot/grub/grub.conf file.  This would 
allow you to set up different modes of booting your system.


Are you really sure that you want to disable SELinux?  If you are 
running a web server that is exposed to the Internet, I would think that 
you would want the protection that it offers.


I run a web server and MySQL on my home network and run SELinux at the 
same time.  It was a matter of setting SELinux boolean variables that 
directly affect Apache and setting the SELinux Context for the files and 
directories that Apache can access.


Try "man httpd_selinux" for details of SELinux setting that apply to Apache.

I did not have any problems with MySQL and SELinux so I am not sure what 
SELinux setting affect MySQL.


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Re: mobile broadband modem for linux?

[DJ Delorie]

L  writes:
> Any of you know working mobile broadband modem for linux (F10 F11)?

I've had great luck with my V740 from Verizon on F10.  "Just works"
with NM too.

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Re: mobile broadband modem for linux?

[paul s]

On 09/03/2009 11:05 PM, L wrote:

Hi,

Any of you know working mobile broadband modem for linux (F10 F11)?

thanks
Y



i use my iPhone connected through blueman... it also works through usb, 
but that is not as cool...


Linux 2.6.29.6-217.2.16.fc11.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Aug 24 17:17:40 EDT 2009

cheers
paul

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Re: mobile broadband modem for linux?

[L]

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Steven
Stern wrote:
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> On 09/03/2009 10:05 PM, L wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Any of you know working mobile broadband modem for linux (F10 F11)?
>>
>> thanks
>> Y
>>
>
> I used the AT&T Sierra modem
>
> http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phone-details/?device=AT%26T+USBConnect+Mercury&q_sku=sku2940237
>
> It required an .fdi file for F10, but "just worked" with Network Manager
> in F11.

Thanks, I specifically look for ones with Australian service providers.

>
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Re: mobile broadband modem for linux?

[Steven Stern]

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On 09/03/2009 10:05 PM, L wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Any of you know working mobile broadband modem for linux (F10 F11)?
> 
> thanks
> Y
> 

I used the AT&T Sierra modem

http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phone-details/?device=AT%26T+USBConnect+Mercury&q_sku=sku2940237

It required an .fdi file for F10, but "just worked" with Network Manager
in F11.

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Re: debug system freeze

[Gabriel Ramirez]

On 09/03/2009 08:36 PM, brian wrote:
> Every couple of days, for the past couple of weeks, my computer locks up
> on me. I can't drop out of X; the only thing to do is hold down the
> power button to shut it down. Can anyone suggest how to debug this?
> 
I don't know as debug this problem, but the same occurs to my machine
after one day or two of uptime the X windows freeze,

- no errors are reported in the logs (messages, dmesg , Xorg.log),
- but the keyboard is dead as the mouse clicks
- the machine is accesible via ssh to shutdown ( restart it)

the solution which works for me is disable the desktop effects in KDE,
after that no more lockups.

this with Fedora 11 x86_64 KDE 4.3( ocurred with 4.2 too) with a

00:02.0 Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics
Controller (rev 02)

Gabriel

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Re: debug system freeze

[stan]

On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 22:24:21 -0400
brian  wrote:

> I think I'm going to downgrade to 10, all the same. 11 has been way
> too big a mess on this box. :-(

Compiling my own custom kernel fixed the problem for me.  I tuned the
kernel options for my system, and it has been solid as a rock since (and
more responsive).  I'm using the 2.6.30 kernels from updates-testing,
recompiled for my system, and they are working flawlessly.  That's
probably a simpler option than downgrading.  Using the instructions at
the link below, it is actually quite easy to compile a kernel.  Once
you've done it once, it is almost routine.  And if you save the config
file, you can just start from where you left off with the next kernel.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel

Another alternative is to try the F12 Alpha live CD.  If it works,
maybe you could hold out with F11 until F12 goes official.

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mobile broadband modem for linux?

[L]

Hi,

Any of you know working mobile broadband modem for linux (F10 F11)?

thanks
Y

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Re: sound barely audible with Fedora 11 on an HP HDX 16

[jack craig]

sorry, i keep assuming gnome; but still, kde doesn't have a user
preferences section where sound is an option?

is your system using pulseaudio like mine is? getting PA to work has
been an issue, but as the volume is there, just low, 
i'd guess its working and just the level needs update.

how about pulseaudio volume control(KDE -> Applications -> Multimedia
-> Volume Control ??


On 09/03/2009 07:46 PM, Kevin Kempter wrote:

  On Thursday 03 September 2009 19:56:40 jack craig wrote:
  
  
system->preferences->sound, crank up the slider!

On 09/03/2009 06:50 PM, Kevin Kempter wrote:


  Hi all;

I have installed Fedora 11 on a new hp HDX 16 for my son. Playing mp3's
is low but passable, playing DVD's the sound is barely audible.

The hp laptop has what appears to be a nice set of altec-lansing speakers
built in.  I assume they can output much more volume.

Anyone have any thoughts per debugging this?

Thanks in advance
  

  
  
Forgot to mention I'm running KDE

  


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Re: debug system freeze

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 21:36 -0400, brian wrote:
> Every couple of days, for the past couple of weeks, my computer locks up 
> on me. I can't drop out of X; the only thing to do is hold down the 
> power button to shut it down. Can anyone suggest how to debug this?

Did this start happening when you installed a new version of X11, or a
video driver? Check /var/log/yum.log if you're not sure.

Also, when a lockup occurs, try logging in from another machine and see
if the system is up or not. This will mean enabling SSH logins (and
possibly opening a firewall hole) so test it before the next lockup
happens.

poc

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Re: sound barely audible with Fedora 11 on an HP HDX 16

[Kevin Kempter]

On Thursday 03 September 2009 19:56:40 jack craig wrote:
> system->preferences->sound, crank up the slider!
>
> On 09/03/2009 06:50 PM, Kevin Kempter wrote:
> > Hi all;
> >
> > I have installed Fedora 11 on a new hp HDX 16 for my son. Playing mp3's
> > is low but passable, playing DVD's the sound is barely audible.
> >
> > The hp laptop has what appears to be a nice set of altec-lansing speakers
> > built in.  I assume they can output much more volume.
> >
> > Anyone have any thoughts per debugging this?
> >
> > Thanks in advance

Forgot to mention I'm running KDE

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Re: bad PNGs, thunderbird and firefox

[stan]

On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 21:39:14 -0400
brian  wrote:

> On 08/21/2009 10:52 PM, brian wrote:
> > On 08/21/2009 09:16 AM, brian wrote:
> >> thunderbird-3.0-2.6.b3.fc11.i586
> >> firefox-3.5.2-2.fc11.i586
> >>
> >> Suddenly, most of the icons in thunderbird and *some* images in ff
> >> are pretty messed up. They appear to be indexed to just 3 colours.
> >> Sometimes, it's predominantly neon green, other times purple or
> >> black. In TB, it's the ones that are highlighted, except for
> >> folders, which look fine. Any icon that's greyed out also appears
> >> normal. Also, the icons in the "write" window i'm typing now in
> >> are ok.
> 

> Anyone? Is anbody seeing anything like this? I can't think of what to 
> look for as *most* images look just fine. So, I can't imagine it's a 
> problem with X.
> 

I'm not seeing this in FF, don't use TB (F11 x86_64).  It is probably
some obscure interaction between your hardware, its drivers,  and those
applications. i.e. a bug

Are the distortions consistent?  i.e. do the same icons and images
always have the same distortion?

What if you save an image that is distorted and open it with an image
viewer?  Still distorted?

Do you have any strange configuration options set?  Effects plugins
installed?  

What if you start firefox in safe mode?  
firefox -safe-mode  
(bad option design!).

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Re: debug system freeze

[brian]

On 09/03/2009 10:25 PM, stan wrote:

On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 21:36:39 -0400
brian  wrote:


Every couple of days, for the past couple of weeks, my computer locks
up on me. I can't drop out of X; the only thing to do is hold down
the power button to shut it down. Can anyone suggest how to debug
this?



My thought is that it would take some serious effort to debug this.
Recompile the kernel and turn on as many of the debugging options in
kernel hacking as possible.  Run the modified kernel in a virtual
machine or separate install and use lots of logging that is short term
(you don't need logs from hours ago, 5 minutes of logs is probably
plenty).  When it hangs, boot into another system to examine the logs of
the frozen system.  The logging might prevent the problem from
happening, depending on what it is, but you have a chance of catching it
in the act.

When this was happening to me, I thought it behaved like the IP stack
was being corrupted.  That means that the system is frozen, because
there was no next instruction.  Dead, defunct, deceased.  Only post
mortem examination possible.

I've seen an option in the kernel to allow a second kernel to be built
and swap in when the first crashes in order to do the post mortem, but
I'm not sure that would work in this case, and in any case I haven't
actually used it.



Thanks for the input. It's more or less as I thought. I figured I'd at 
least need to re-compile the kernel in order to even hope to catch 
something logged. I thought I'd ask, though.


I think I'm going to downgrade to 10, all the same. 11 has been way too 
big a mess on this box. :-(


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Re: debug system freeze

[stan]

On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 21:36:39 -0400
brian  wrote:

> Every couple of days, for the past couple of weeks, my computer locks
> up on me. I can't drop out of X; the only thing to do is hold down
> the power button to shut it down. Can anyone suggest how to debug
> this?
> 

My thought is that it would take some serious effort to debug this.
Recompile the kernel and turn on as many of the debugging options in
kernel hacking as possible.  Run the modified kernel in a virtual
machine or separate install and use lots of logging that is short term
(you don't need logs from hours ago, 5 minutes of logs is probably
plenty).  When it hangs, boot into another system to examine the logs of
the frozen system.  The logging might prevent the problem from
happening, depending on what it is, but you have a chance of catching it
in the act.

When this was happening to me, I thought it behaved like the IP stack
was being corrupted.  That means that the system is frozen, because
there was no next instruction.  Dead, defunct, deceased.  Only post
mortem examination possible.

I've seen an option in the kernel to allow a second kernel to be built
and swap in when the first crashes in order to do the post mortem, but
I'm not sure that would work in this case, and in any case I haven't
actually used it.

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Enabling Tabs On Mediawiki

[Robert L Cochran]

I recently installed mediawiki-1.15.1. I would like to get those nice 
tabs that you see at the top of this page for "Manual", "Discussion", etc:


http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Site_customization

Currently my Main Page shows no tabs. How do I enable them? Do I need to 
edit /usr/share/mediawiki/skins/monobook/main.css? Or do I need to edit 
Monobook.css? I don't seem to have a file of that name for my mediawiki 
installation:


[r...@deafeng3 w]# locate *Monobook.css
/usr/share/doc/testdisk-doc-6.11/doc/Monobook.css

Here is what I have currently installed:

Installed Packages
mediawiki.x86_64   
1.15.1-48.fc11
mediawiki-Cite.noarch 0-0.4.20080901svn.fc11 

mediawiki-math.x86_64   
1.15.1-48.fc11
mediawiki-nomath.x86_64   
1.15.1-48.fc11


Thanks

Bob


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Re: fc-10/windows xp installation

[Mike Chambers]

On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 20:16 -0400, pete b. wrote:
> What I'm doing is installing fedora-10 so I can dual boot either fc-10
> or windows-xp.
> windows-xp already exists using 26GB of 80GB on the HD.
> I go thru a few menus.  Then I get to the partitioning and have
> problems.
> 
> I selected "use free space of selected drives and create default
> layout".
> 1 drive is selected and the same drive is chosen to boot from.
> 
> The response is:
> 1. Could not allocate requested partitions. Not enough space left to
> create
> partition for /boot.
> 
> 2. Have not defined a root partition.
> 
> What is going on with this?  Is there a reliable fix?
> FYI pehaps I selected the wrong disk (I have two).  Is there a method
> to find out
> the manufacturer of a disk from windows?

Instead of letting the installer choose, try custom setup instead.  Just
check mark which drive you want to use at the top, in the partitioning
menu, and then just add new partitions.  I would just create a /boot, /
and swap partitions. Maybe a gig for /boot, double your memory for swap,
and the rest for /.

But mainly, it lets you create your own setup and you know what drive to
use and all that.


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Re: sound barely audible with Fedora 11 on an HP HDX 16

[jack craig]

system->preferences->sound, crank up the slider!


On 09/03/2009 06:50 PM, Kevin Kempter wrote:

Hi all;

I have installed Fedora 11 on a new hp HDX 16 for my son. Playing mp3's is low
but passable, playing DVD's the sound is barely audible.

The hp laptop has what appears to be a nice set of altec-lansing speakers
built in.  I assume they can output much more volume.

Anyone have any thoughts per debugging this?

Thanks in advance

   


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sound barely audible with Fedora 11 on an HP HDX 16

[Kevin Kempter]

Hi all;

I have installed Fedora 11 on a new hp HDX 16 for my son. Playing mp3's is low 
but passable, playing DVD's the sound is barely audible. 

The hp laptop has what appears to be a nice set of altec-lansing speakers 
built in.  I assume they can output much more volume.

Anyone have any thoughts per debugging this?

Thanks in advance

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Re: bad PNGs, thunderbird and firefox

[brian]

On 08/21/2009 10:52 PM, brian wrote:

On 08/21/2009 09:16 AM, brian wrote:

thunderbird-3.0-2.6.b3.fc11.i586
firefox-3.5.2-2.fc11.i586

Suddenly, most of the icons in thunderbird and *some* images in ff are
pretty messed up. They appear to be indexed to just 3 colours.
Sometimes, it's predominantly neon green, other times purple or black.
In TB, it's the ones that are highlighted, except for folders, which
look fine. Any icon that's greyed out also appears normal. Also, the
icons in the "write" window i'm typing now in are ok.

In FF, there doesn't appear to be any rhyme or reason, save for the fact
they're all PNGs. I thought that it was background images only, but that
doesn't appear to be the case. Nor are all PNGs screwed up.

I recently installed an LCD display and so modified my xorg.conf. But
this problem only just appeared so i doubt it's related. Is anyone else
seeing something similar (it's *really* hard to miss).

Otherwise, can anyone think of what I can check?

Here's the latest from yum.log:

Aug 19 16:40:07 Updated: gvfs-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586
Aug 19 16:40:07 Updated: pciutils-libs-3.1.3-1.fc11.i586
Aug 19 16:40:08 Updated: nss-softokn-freebl-3.12.3.99.3-2.11.4.fc11.i586
Aug 19 16:40:09 Updated: nss-3.12.3.99.3-2.11.4.fc11.i586
Aug 19 16:40:09 Updated: pciutils-3.1.3-1.fc11.i586
Aug 19 16:40:10 Updated: libmtp-0.3.7-2.fc11.i586
Aug 19 16:40:12 Updated: nss-tools-3.12.3.99.3-2.11.4.fc11.i586
Aug 19 16:40:12 Updated: gvfs-smb-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586
Aug 19 16:40:12 Updated: gvfs-obexftp-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586
Aug 19 16:40:13 Updated: gvfs-archive-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586
Aug 19 16:40:13 Updated: gvfs-gphoto2-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586
Aug 19 16:40:13 Updated: gvfs-fuse-1.2.3-11.fc11.i586
Aug 19 16:40:17 Updated: gdb-6.8.50.20090302-37.fc11.i586
Aug 19 16:40:53 Updated: gnome-settings-daemon-2.26.1-8.fc11.i586
Aug 19 16:41:06 Updated: 7:squid-3.0.STABLE18-1.fc11.i586
Aug 19 16:41:06 Updated: m17n-db-1.5.5-1.fc11.noarch
Aug 19 16:41:07 Updated: kernel-firmware-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.noarch
Aug 19 16:41:08 Updated: pciutils-devel-3.1.3-1.fc11.i586
Aug 19 16:41:10 Updated: nss-devel-3.12.3.99.3-2.11.4.fc11.i586
Aug 19 16:41:15 Updated: setroubleshoot-plugins-2.0.18-5.fc11.noarch
Aug 19 16:41:19 Updated: kernel-headers-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586
Aug 19 16:41:47 Installed: kernel-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586
Aug 19 16:41:47 Updated: systemtap-runtime-0.9.9-3.fc11.i586
Aug 19 16:41:52 Updated: systemtap-0.9.9-3.fc11.i586
Aug 19 16:41:53 Updated: m17n-lib-1.5.5-1.fc11.i586



Correction: some JPEGs are also displayed like this in FF.



Anyone? Is anbody seeing anything like this? I can't think of what to 
look for as *most* images look just fine. So, I can't imagine it's a 
problem with X.


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debug system freeze

[brian]

Every couple of days, for the past couple of weeks, my computer locks up 
on me. I can't drop out of X; the only thing to do is hold down the 
power button to shut it down. Can anyone suggest how to debug this?


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Re: rogue suspend is driving me nuts

[brian]

On 08/31/2009 07:48 PM, brian wrote:

On 08/31/2009 06:05 PM, Tony Nelson wrote:


If you can't solve the problem, and you don't need fancy Power
Management services, you can `yum remove gnome-power-manager`. I did
that and also removed gnome-screensaver, replacing both with
xscreensaver. I don't use suspend or hibernate, but I do want the
display to sleep, and, as a bonus, I get better looking screensavers.
I did lose the ability to switch users without first unlocking the
screen.



OK, I've done that. I should know by tomorrow if it worked, as this box
has been shutting down several times a day.


After a couple of days, it looks like this did the trick. Thanks.

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Re: selinux issue - please help

[stan]

On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 17:42:52 -0700 (PDT)
chloe K  wrote:

> Hi all
>  
> how I have to set the selinux to disable?
>  

Go to /etc/selinux
Edit the config file and set SELINUX=disabled
If you are running a web server, you should probably keep selinux
enabled, and tune the policy to allow it to run for security.

You could also use setenforce 0 to put it in permissive mode where it
will warn but not stop anything.

Do you have sealert / setroubleshoot installed?  They will tell you
what the selinux error is and suggest a possible workaround.

> to make webserver work
> and
> mysql work too

There are special booleans to set to tune selinux to deal with mysql and
apache.  I would have to research that in order to tell you, so I will
just point you to the man pages.  

man booleans
man sealert
man setenforce
man selinux

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selinux issue - please help

[chloe K]

Hi all
 
how I have to set the selinux to disable?
 
to make webserver work
and
mysql work too
 
 
 
if not setting to 0, apache error log
 
(13)Permission denied: access to /admin denied
 
and mysql error 
 
090903 19:43:19  InnoDB: Operating system error number 13 in a file operation.
InnoDB: The error means mysqld does not have the access rights to
InnoDB: the directory.
InnoDB: File name ./ibdata1
InnoDB: File operation call: 'open'.
InnoDB: Cannot continue operation.

Thank you
 
 


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Re: F11 OS Instability? Twice now, the system locks out!

[Marko Vojinovic]

On Thursday 03 September 2009 23:51:50 Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> On 09/03/2009 10:28 AM, James Wilkinson wrote:
> > Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> >> The last time I had a system lock-out was several
> >> weeks ago, and just today, I experienced another.
> >
> > Which graphics card are you running?
>
> Onboard Intel 945G/GZ chipset
>
> >   Which driver?
>
> Latest from Fedora updates.

I believe the last two lines explain the issue. Search the list archives and 
the internet --- the Intel graphics drivers became more than unusable, since 
Fedora 10 time (basically, with the transition from XAA to EXA). The situation 
has improved significantly by now, in the sense that today the driver locks up 
on a monthly basis rather than every 15 minutes, and the luckiest people do 
not experience any more lockups at all.

The Intel drivers are going through a major code rewriting, and at some point 
in future may become stable enough again. Until then, consider yourself lucky 
enough if it hangs only once per month. Reboot and continue.

You also might try to force the old, XAA acceleration, or disable 3D 
acceleration completely, in xorg.conf. This might eliminate the lockups, while 
at the same time degrade performance of the graphics card (and Intel doesn't 
have too much performance to begin with, anyway...).

Or you may look inside /var/log/Xorg.0.log* to see if there is any backtrace 
of X or similar, and work from there.

Of course, maybe I am barking up the wrong tree, it is possible that the 
problem lies elsewhere. But given that you have Intel graphics, X logs are the 
first place to look for signs of trouble.

HTH, :-)
Marko

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fc-10/windows xp installation

[pete b.]

What I'm doing is installing fedora-10 so I can dual boot either fc-10 or
windows-xp.
windows-xp already exists using 26GB of 80GB on the HD.
I go thru a few menus.  Then I get to the partitioning and have problems.

I selected "use free space of selected drives and create default layout".
1 drive is selected and the same drive is chosen to boot from.

The response is:
1. Could not allocate requested partitions. Not enough space left to create
partition for /boot.

2. Have not defined a root partition.

What is going on with this?  Is there a reliable fix?
FYI pehaps I selected the wrong disk (I have two).  Is there a method to
find out
the manufacturer of a disk from windows?

thx much,
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Re: Multimedia Mixing and Editing Application

[Roger]

On 09/04/2009 01:36 AM, Ali Sobhi wrote:

Hello All.
I have created few screencast videos (using CamStudio) in AVI format) and
the audio tracks are created by Audacity and exported to WAV (PCM) file.

What application, on Fedora 11, I can use to merge or add the audio tracks
to the video to create individual segments and then merge all the videos
(4 of them) to create a complete video? What output formats can I use?
Thanks.


Regards,

Ali Sobhi

   

Hi Ali
Use Blender, it does all that and more.
Roger

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Re: So far I am not impressed with F11

[Roger]

I'm at my wits end with F11 as I seem to be the only one with these 
issues. If anyone has any idea what is going on please feel free to 
fill me in. I'll gladly file bugs if I knew what to file the bugs 
against but so far these issues appear without leaving any trace as 
to why. 




Got me puzzled.

I too have had problems with F11 but then I had problems with other Fedoras.
Inevitably and virtually always it was because, for various reasons,  I 
had incorrect apps.
The only way I could fix issues was to yum uninstall offending apps and 
then yum install again and pretty well every problem went away.


For sound I uninstalled everything, all the sound files then uninstalled 
firefox and thunderbird then reinstalled.

Haven't had a problem with Firefox since updating.

My problem was an opposing version of something, can't remember what 
because such a lot of stuff got removed.
Lastly I yum uninstalled the kmod-nvidia and reinstalled, again opposing 
apps caused me grief.
I could not get other video cards to work in my machine so I stick with 
Geforce 8600 GT or better.


Everything works well for me now so I can only suggest that you may be 
experiencing similar.


I remember I had problems with the 64 bit kernel and apps so installed 
only 32 bit and have no problems at all -for now.


Not much help but my experience.
I enjoy the problems but sometimes am at a loss to know what to do to 
fix then and this is why I thank list members, they always have helped.

Roger


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Re: F11 OS Instability? Twice now, the system locks out!

[Daniel B. Thurman]

On 09/03/2009 10:28 AM, James Wilkinson wrote:

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
   

The last time I had a system lock-out was several
weeks ago, and just today, I experienced another.

I tried to access the system locally via the keyboard,
no response.  Mouse, same. Remotely, not responding,
all remote connections, ports, etc.  Not there.
 

Have you tested your memory?
   

yes

Which graphics card are you running?

Onboard Intel 945G/GZ chipset

  Which driver?

Latest from Fedora updates.

Which screensavers,
   

Gnome screen saver - blank

come to that – if the system is locking up while you aren’t at it, then
there’s a good chance that a 3D screensaver is exercising part of the
driver that hasn’t been debugged properly.
   

With a blank screen?

Hope this helps,

James.

   


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Re: "open terminal window here"

[Kevin J. Cummings]

On 09/03/2009 04:21 PM, Smith, Herb wrote:
>  
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Kam Leo [mailto:kam@gmail.com] 
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 9:02 PM
>> To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora.
>> Subject: Re: "open terminal window here"
>>
>>
>> That option has removed as a default since FC6.  Install 
>> nautilus-open-terminal to get the command to appear in 
>> Gnome's right-click menu.
>>
> 
> I tried to do that but yum told me there was no such package.  Is there
> some repo I need to enable to get this guy?

fedora

> Thanks,
> Herb

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RE: "open terminal window here"

[Smith, Herb]

 

> -Original Message-
> From: Kam Leo [mailto:kam@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 9:02 PM
> To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora.
> Subject: Re: "open terminal window here"
> 
> 
> That option has removed as a default since FC6.  Install 
> nautilus-open-terminal to get the command to appear in 
> Gnome's right-click menu.
> 

I tried to do that but yum told me there was no such package.  Is there
some repo I need to enable to get this guy?

Thanks,
Herb

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Re: Unable to install libX11

[stan]

On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 17:19:04 +0530 (IST)
SriLatha  wrote:

> Thanks for the suggestions.
> 
> Hey i found two files in /etc/yum.repos.d which are
> adobe-linux-i386.repo and yum-iisc-f11.repo which has contents which
> iam attaching here.
> 
> In response to your suggestion, I tried copying even fedora.repo and
> fedora-updates.repo also which iam attaching here. 
> 
> I tried now installing using yum install libX11-devel\* but there is
> no progress. It got stuck in refresh-package-list. I copied the
> libX11 packages into /var/cache/yum/updates/packages.

I agree with Michael.  You need to talk to iisc.  They've blocked your
system from receiving updates except from them.  They probably want to
reduce bandwidth through their servers, but they aren't running a full
repository. The keys you use to validate packages aren't on your system
but are pointing to a link on their system. 

If you want to work around this without involving them, you need to
install the Fedora keys on your system.  Go to the site I suggested
before and download the package fedora-release-11-1.noarch.rpm.  Install
it as rpm -ivh fedora-release-11-1.noarch.rpm  Then try the update
again.  You should now be able to get repo data and thus packages from
other repos than iisc.  They might have the fedora mirror site
blacklisted, so you can't reach it to resolve any other mirrors than
theirs also.  If that is the case, installing the fedora keys won't
work.

And if you just want to install the packages and get on with your
compile, install them using rpm -ivh.  They should still be
in /var/cache/yum/updates/packages.  You can do the same for any other
packages you are missing, download them, and install them with rpm -ivh.

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Re: Question on shredding a terebyte drive

[Fernando Cassia]

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Les wrote:
> Earlier on in one of the threads, someone compared encryption with an
> envelope.  That is pretty good.  You know the information is in there,
> but the only way to get it is to open the envelope.  The question is how
> long does it take to open the envelope.  No encryption is unbreakable.
> The value of encryption is how long does it take to break it.

You shouldn't be developing nuclear weapons in your basement in the
first place and storing your top-secret classified documents in your
personal hard drive!!. Much less talking about it on a public mailing
list.

Next time do the drawings with pencil on a sheet of paper, memorize
them all, then shred it and eat the little pieces with some soup.

Oh wait, it wasn't you. It was Dean whom started this thread



Now seriously, speaking of data security, the other day I was looking
for Word templates and found somene's hard drive fully shared on a
http server, down to the desktop folder, windows dir, etcetera. It
seems he created a "secret" folder under his public http dir and
mounted his windows root there, and "somehow" Google ended up indexing
it all.

Talk about privacy...But I bet he'll take great care to erase his hd
before getting rid of it so no data falls in the wrong hands

FC

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Re: kmail eating my maildir???

[Honza 'thingwath' Bartoš]

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Thursday 03 September 2009 16:32:28 Honza 'thingwath' Bartoš wrote:
>> >> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55421
>> >
>> > That bug report was in 2003, and is totally irrelevant to today's KMail.
>>
>> I'd like to be wrong, but I'm afraid that the bug is still (yes, I
>> know how old it is) completely relevant, unfortunately.
>
> I've just read the bug report again.  It says that, due to the way kmail
> works, it is not possible to read mail in other agents.  This is demonstrably
> false.  Thunderbird and seamonkey have to problem whatsoever in reading the
> mail - I haven't used any others.  The bug report replies did attempt to show
> some of the other issues that may be confusing the reporter.
>
> Anne

It's really easy to reproduce.

Create a Maildir directory (~/mail-to-lose) and copy an existing
maildir there. Then create new KMail account, select Local maildir (or
something like that, I use KMail with czech l10n) and set the path
(~/mail-to-lose). Before I press "check the mail" button,
~/mail-to-lose is about 10MB in size. After I press the button, I see
~1000 new mails in KMail, but ~/mail-to-lose is empty. All the mail
went somewhere to .kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/inbox/. And I can't see
any option to tell KMail just "keep the mail in ~/mail-to-lose".
Because, most likely, there isn't any.

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Re: kmail eating my maildir???

[Christoph Höger]

Am Donnerstag, den 03.09.2009, 18:55 +0100 schrieb Anne Wilson:
> On Thursday 03 September 2009 16:32:28 Honza 'thingwath' Bartoš wrote:
> > >> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55421
> > >
> > > That bug report was in 2003, and is totally irrelevant to today's KMail.
> >
> > I'd like to be wrong, but I'm afraid that the bug is still (yes, I
> > know how old it is) completely relevant, unfortunately.
> 
> I've just read the bug report again.  It says that, due to the way kmail 
> works, it is not possible to read mail in other agents.  This is demonstrably 
> false.  Thunderbird and seamonkey have to problem whatsoever in reading the 
> mail - I haven't used any others.  The bug report replies did attempt to show 
> some of the other issues that may be confusing the reporter.

Thunderbird is not even able to read maildir. Again: We're not talking
about IMAP here (where this is a design principle) ;)


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Re: kmail eating my maildir???

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 03 September 2009 16:32:28 Honza 'thingwath' Bartoš wrote:
> >> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55421
> >
> > That bug report was in 2003, and is totally irrelevant to today's KMail.
>
> I'd like to be wrong, but I'm afraid that the bug is still (yes, I
> know how old it is) completely relevant, unfortunately.

I've just read the bug report again.  It says that, due to the way kmail 
works, it is not possible to read mail in other agents.  This is demonstrably 
false.  Thunderbird and seamonkey have to problem whatsoever in reading the 
mail - I haven't used any others.  The bug report replies did attempt to show 
some of the other issues that may be confusing the reporter.

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Re: kmail eating my maildir???

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 03 September 2009 16:32:28 Honza 'thingwath' Bartoš wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Thursday 03 September 2009 15:41:20 Honza 'thingwath' Bartoš wrote:
> >> 2009/9/3 Christoph Höger :
> >> > I am using no IMAP. This is a plain Maildir. I simply have my mails
> >> > inside a good old maildir - which is emptied by KMail.
> >>
> >> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55421
> >
> > That bug report was in 2003, and is totally irrelevant to today's KMail.
>
> I'd like to be wrong, but I'm afraid that the bug is still (yes, I
> know how old it is) completely relevant, unfortunately.
>
> If it wasn't, there would be a way to set up KMail to directly use a
> Maildir placed somewhere in my $HOME and not copy or move any mail to
> its own storage. In the same way that, for example, mutt does. I tried
> to find how to do that, and failed miserably…

I'm sorry, I simply don't understand this thread.  Some time back - not as far 
as 2003, I think, Mandriva stored mail in ~/Mail - and kmail always worked 
with it.  I have never seen any indication that KMail either copies or moves 
mail from its origin.

The whole discussion is being made inpenetrable, too, by the use of a mail 
format name as a directory.  Maildir is a format, as is mbox.  What format of 
mail is this question about?

Christoph seems to say that he is talking about the Maildir format. If he 
looks, for instance, at Inbox he will see no mail.  If he looks at Inbox/cur 
his mail should be there.

I use maildir format, with kmail, for my mail, and thunderbird has no 
difficulty finding it.  I have never used mutt, but I suggest that it may well 
be looking in the wrong place.

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Re: OT: Is the AMD Phenom processor upwards compabible with the Opteron

[James Wilkinson]

Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
>  2. How much of a performance advantage is there to configuring for
> the Opteron as against the generic?

These options relate to the equivalent gcc options:
http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/i386-and-x86_002d64-Options.html

“Generic” will change over time: it’s supposed to provide generally good
performance on most current processors.

I understand that the Athlon 64 / Opteron / Sempron / Phenom processors
are pretty good at making the best of whichever optimisations they get,
and there isn’t much difference between the generic optimisations and
the AMD-specific ones.

I would expect any performance advantages to fall well within the limits
of experimental uncertainty.

Hope this helps,

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Re: F11 OS Instability? Twice now, the system locks out!

[James Wilkinson]

Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
> The last time I had a system lock-out was several
> weeks ago, and just today, I experienced another.
> 
> I tried to access the system locally via the keyboard,
> no response.  Mouse, same. Remotely, not responding,
> all remote connections, ports, etc.  Not there.

Have you tested your memory?

Which graphics card are you running? Which driver? Which screensavers,
come to that – if the system is locking up while you aren’t at it, then
there’s a good chance that a 3D screensaver is exercising part of the
driver that hasn’t been debugged properly.

Hope this helps,

James.

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Re: hyperthreading on f11 pae kernel?

[James Wilkinson]

Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
> I have an old Dell GX260 with one P4 and 1Gb of ram.
> I installed F11 32 bit and updated it yesterday with latest kernel
> available.
> I noticed that kernel installed was the PAE one, as stated inside release
> notes. Also in other documents I see that only i586 is the other available
> one kernel.
> From /proc/cpuinfo I see that there is the ht flag, but the system gets only
> one cpu.

Please note that the “ht” flag doesn’t actually mean that the processor
has two virtual processors. All it means is that if the OS asks the
processor how many virtual processors it has, it will get a sensible
answer.

(I have a Core 2 Duo system and a Phenom x3 system to hand. Neither chip
supports hyperthreading: both have the “ht” flag in /proc/cpuinfo).

You may want to look further (e.g. by processor speed and/or model
number) to check if your processor really does support hyperthreading.
However, since you say:

> In bios I see no option for enabling/disabling hyperthreading, so that I
> suppose it is enabled by default but I could be wrong
> I have to apply in the mean time a bios update…

You may find the BIOS update enables hyperthreading, but if not, I
recommend you accept that either processor, motherboard, or both won’t
support hyperthreading. You’d need to replace some hardware to get it
working, and on a system that old, it’s not worth doing. (Hyperthreading
on a Pentium 4 only gave ~10% performance improvements, depending on
what you were doing).

> but I would like to ask if using PAE implies no ht

This is definitely not the case. Any hyperthreading CPU can run PAE (and
still hyperthread), and most of them should be running PAE.

> and if using i586 I
> can get ht or not in general.

You should be able to get hyperthreading on an i586 kernel IF your
system supports it, BUT I very very much doubt it will make the
slightest bit of difference in your case.

Hope this helps,

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Re: DHCP on Aliase eth0

[Brian Millett]

On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 16:53 +0100, Gbenga Shobowale wrote:
> Hello All,
> I need to know if it is possible to run dhcp server on an aliase
> interface eth0:0 ?
> 
> I have configured a dhcp server for a network that should be on this
> interface but I can't get it to work.
> Anyone worked on something like this?
> 
> Best regards
> 

Very easy to do.  I've got an interface that is just a 'tap' interface
tap0  inet addr:192.168.89.1  that I want the dhcpd to listen on.

So my /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf is :

ddns-update-style interim;
ignore client-updates;
local-address 192.168.89.1;

subnet 192.168.89.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {

# --- default gateway
option routers  192.168.89.1;
option subnet-mask  255.255.255.0;

option nis-domain   "localdomain";
option domain-name  "localdomain";
option domain-name-servers  192.168.89.1, 208.67.222.222, 
208.67.220.220;

option time-offset  -18000; # Eastern Standard Time

range dynamic-bootp 192.168.89.128 192.168.89.254;
default-lease-time 21600;
max-lease-time 43200;
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Re: Question on shredding a terebyte drive

[Michael Hennebry]

Is shred cpu bound?
I see two ways to test:
Fill the drive from /dev/zero .
cp is not cpu bound.
Run top while shred is running.
top will tell you how much cpu time shred has used.
After an hour,
divide the number of shred's cpu seconds by 36 to get the percentage.
If random number generation is the problem,
you can replace it by passing shred a named FIFO.
Pick two relativle prime integers, both larger than one million.
Use these as the sizes of two arrays, call them A and B.
Fill them from /dev/random .
byte(j) = A[j%sizeof A] ^ B[j%sizeof B]
Unlike urandom, random can block, so the fill step could be slow.
urandom, wh3en random would block uses pseudo-random numbers,
so either way, you will be using pseudo-random numbers.

IIRC shred doesn't just write different data patterns on different passes,
it also write blocks in different orders.
That can affect the precise placement of the r/w heads
and can cause shred to affect more of the platter area.


As other have noted, company policy seems just a bit silly.
Using any of the following tools would seem cheaper and more effective:
degausser
sledge hammer
arc welder
NaK bath

shred-ing would seem more appropriate for an internal drive.
A preference for shred-ing over cracking a case seems rational to me.

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Re: howto play audio here and hear it there

[Mike Wright]

Tim wrote:

Tim:

Hmm, and for the rest of us that have proper networks, and don't want
to run zeroconf, we can't do networked pulse audio?


Marko Vojinovic:

Forgive my ignorance, but why is running avahi a problem? It was on by
default in all Fedora installations that I can remember ever
installing.


One more thing running on a system that's already got far too many
daemons running.

Auto-network configuration can bite you on the bum when you start up
your computer, and it doesn't connect to your own network like it should
do.  e.g. The server was temporarily down, or inaccessible, then other
things (the rest of your PCs) configure themselves in an incompatible
way.  This is very bad for non-technical users, who think that the
network is fine, when it's not.

Quoting from the service itself, pay particular note to the last
sentence:  "This is a daemon which runs on client machines to perform
Zeroconf service discovery on a network.  avahi-daemon must be running
on systems that use Avahi for service discovery. Avahi-daemon should not
be running otherwise."



Ah, thank you, Tim.

I've always had NOZEROCONF=yes in /etc/sysconfig/network but noticed 
that in f10 routes for 169.254.0.0/24 on all physical network cards were 
created *anyway*.  That explains that mystery.  Good-bye avahi-daemon.


Sometimes it feels like fedora is becoming windows...

:m)

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Re: Fedora 11: no display after init sequence

[Tony Nelson]

On 09-09-03 11:06:15, wwp wrote:
 ...
> On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 16:03:46 +0200 wwp  wrote:
> 
> > after I upgraded from Fedora 10 to 11 using yum preupgrade (as
 ...
> (*) anyway, that 2.6.30 kernel didn't seem very stable to me at first
> glance, I got a system complete hang while in init 2 and after that
> fsck crashed while checking the root fs ;-).

Do you have updates-testing enabled?  F11 doesn't include 2.6.30 
kernels, but there is one in updates-testing.

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DHCP on Aliase eth0

[Gbenga Shobowale]

Hello All,
I need to know if it is possible to run dhcp server on an aliase
interface eth0:0 ?

I have configured a dhcp server for a network that should be on this
interface but I can't get it to work.
Anyone worked on something like this?

Best regards

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Re: Question on shredding a terebyte drive

[Les]

Earlier on in one of the threads, someone compared encryption with an
envelope.  That is pretty good.  You know the information is in there,
but the only way to get it is to open the envelope.  The question is how
long does it take to open the envelope.  No encryption is unbreakable.
The value of encryption is how long does it take to break it.  One
benchmark that is often quoted is a "bruteforce attempt".  Although it
is not literally a every combination of input attempt, it is quite
similar.  If a single very high speed computer were used, and the
algorithm was known or could be guessed, how long would it take to
retrieve the message?  This is those long years you see published.  
The purpose of encryption is simply to make the data harder to retrieve,
not conceal it indefinitely.  Some algorithms are meant to conceal just
until the message is delivered, some to conceal for days, and some for
years, none shield for centuries, but attempts are being made daily.

Moreover as encryption algorithms become better understood, the
applicable means to break encoding become more numerous, and the power
of the computer (about 100Billion times more powerful today than in
1967) make encryption less and less secure at all levels.  Of course
computer speed also lends more encryption methods to the person
shielding information as well, but that is basically an efficiency
algorithm, not applicable to the direct computation of breaking any
particular code.

Alternate languages are the best bet.  It is impossible to replicate
the cultural differences on a computer (at least that is true today I
think), so languages have distinct attributes that lend them to
expressing ideas in a different cultural idiom, and until the language
and/or culture are known, it is unfathomable, unless you find a decoded
bit that you understand (the rosetta stone for example).  Navajo code
talkers were used by the US military for that same reason in the Second
World War.

If you are a number or math nut, encryption, prime numbers, fibbonacci
numbers, and transforms of all varieties will be a really interesting
topic of study.  

Your signature says that you are a professor of political science.
Think about the political and cultural evolution of language, and then
think of encryption as a means to code the thoughts of one culture to
make it unique.  What forces act on that to keep it quiet, and what
forces work to weaken the culture. That is a form of code breaking.

Regards,
Les H


On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 21:34 -0500, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Dean S. Messing wrote:
> > I have a terebyte sata drive that I need to securely wipe clean.  It
> > originally had 2 partitions.  I deleted them using `fdisk', rebooted,
> > and then as root ran
> >
> >shred -vz /dev/sdd
> >
> > The drive is capable of about 60MB/sec, but shred is only "shredding"
> > about 25MB every 5 seconds according to its output.  Since the default
> > number of passes is 25, this works out to about 5 days.
> >
> 
> I have been reading this thread wondering this: why do we have to
> shred the whole disk, why not just find the parts that are actually
> used and write over them a few times.  I seriously doubt you have 1
> terrabyte of precious data.
> 
> Another idea just hit me.  What if you encrypt the data on the disk.
> Ubuntu has that thing now to create a Private encrypted partition.  Do
> that, move your precious stuff in there.  then unmount.   That is
> supposed to be just about impossible to recover, even for the NSA
> kids.
> 
> Anybody know if it is easier to crack an ecrypted file system than
> recover shredded data?
> 
> pj
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Multimedia Mixing and Editing Application

[Ali Sobhi]

Hello All.
I have created few screencast videos (using CamStudio) in AVI format) and 
the audio tracks are created by Audacity and exported to WAV (PCM) file.

What application, on Fedora 11, I can use to merge or add the audio tracks 
to the video to create individual segments and then merge all the videos 
(4 of them) to create a complete video? What output formats can I use? 
Thanks.


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Re: kmail eating my maildir???

[Honza 'thingwath' Bartoš]

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Thursday 03 September 2009 15:41:20 Honza 'thingwath' Bartoš wrote:
>> 2009/9/3 Christoph Höger :
>> > I am using no IMAP. This is a plain Maildir. I simply have my mails
>> > inside a good old maildir - which is emptied by KMail.
>>
>> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55421
>>
> That bug report was in 2003, and is totally irrelevant to today's KMail.
>

I'd like to be wrong, but I'm afraid that the bug is still (yes, I
know how old it is) completely relevant, unfortunately.

If it wasn't, there would be a way to set up KMail to directly use a
Maildir placed somewhere in my $HOME and not copy or move any mail to
its own storage. In the same way that, for example, mutt does. I tried
to find how to do that, and failed miserably…

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Re: kmail eating my maildir???

[Christoph Höger]

Am Donnerstag, den 03.09.2009, 16:23 +0100 schrieb Anne Wilson:
> On Thursday 03 September 2009 15:41:20 Honza 'thingwath' Bartoš wrote:
> > 2009/9/3 Christoph Höger :
> > > I am using no IMAP. This is a plain Maildir. I simply have my mails
> > > inside a good old maildir - which is emptied by KMail.
> >
> > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55421
> >
> That bug report was in 2003, and is totally irrelevant to today's KMail.
> 
> > KMail can't do this. And it doesn't support Akonadi (which can do this)
> > yet. So IMAP is the only way...
> 
> I'm still not sure just what Honza is actually doing.  I suspect that he may 
> be trying to use a mailbox set up by another client, in which case he will 
> have to import his mail.
> 
> We need a great deal more information before there is any possibility of 
> helping him.  I've been using KMail for 7  years, and not only have I never 
> seen KMail eat mail, I've never seen anyone else experience it either.

It's easy to reproduce: Set up a Maildir (again: I am talking about the
Maildir format!) and put some mail in it. Then try to add that Maildir
to your account. After this reading that Maildir with mutt will show an
empty folder. 
This is clearly a design flaw: Any Mailclient that reads a Maildir
should not modify it's content without explicit permission by the user.




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Re: kmail eating my maildir???

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 03 September 2009 15:41:20 Honza 'thingwath' Bartoš wrote:
> 2009/9/3 Christoph Höger :
> > I am using no IMAP. This is a plain Maildir. I simply have my mails
> > inside a good old maildir - which is emptied by KMail.
>
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55421
>
> KMail can't do this. And it doesn't support Akonadi (which can do this)
> yet. So IMAP is the only way...

Sorry, in the preceding mail I referred to Honza, when I meant I didn't 
understand what Christophe was actually doing.

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Re: kmail eating my maildir???

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 03 September 2009 15:41:20 Honza 'thingwath' Bartoš wrote:
> 2009/9/3 Christoph Höger :
> > I am using no IMAP. This is a plain Maildir. I simply have my mails
> > inside a good old maildir - which is emptied by KMail.
>
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55421
>
That bug report was in 2003, and is totally irrelevant to today's KMail.

> KMail can't do this. And it doesn't support Akonadi (which can do this)
> yet. So IMAP is the only way...

I'm still not sure just what Honza is actually doing.  I suspect that he may 
be trying to use a mailbox set up by another client, in which case he will 
have to import his mail.

We need a great deal more information before there is any possibility of 
helping him.  I've been using KMail for 7  years, and not only have I never 
seen KMail eat mail, I've never seen anyone else experience it either.

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Re: Fedora 11: no display after init sequence

[wwp]

Some news..


On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 16:03:46 +0200 wwp  wrote:

> after I upgraded from Fedora 10 to 11 using yum preupgrade (as proposed by the
> daily process that checks for upgrades in GNOME), display in X.org doesn't
> work anymore.
> 
> My guess is that it's a video/display issue, directly or indirectly, because
> the system is responding, meaning I can login in gdm in blind mode using the
> keyboard (I got confirmation by reading /var/log/0-slave.log) but the display
> is not updated after the loading process with the Fedora logo.
[snip]

I could work-around the problem by booting another kernel (*). I installed
2.6.29.4-167.fc11.i686.PAE RPMs and booted that kernel, works now.

There must be something wrong w/ kernel 2.6.30.5-43 or something in my
config it dislikes.

(*) anyway, that 2.6.30 kernel didn't seem very stable to me at first
glance, I got a system complete hang while in init 2 and after that
fsck crashed while checking the root fs ;-).


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Re: F11 XKB troubles

[wwp]

Hello,


On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:19:53 + (UTC) Beartooth TpBkR 
 wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:10:25 +0100, M A Young wrote:
> 
>   []
> > I had that on an install created from a Fedora 11 beta live CD. In the
> > end I got rid of it by renaming .gconf and letting it create a fresh
> > .gconf (as it was a test install I didn't care what other settings I
> > lost).
> 
>   It's probably a Very Dumb Question, but which gconf? Where?

I get the same thing, see below for the record. Did you solve it by
removing your $HOME/.gconf directory?


Right after logging in my GNOME session, I get this:

**
Error activating XKB configuration.
It can happen under various circumstances:
- a bug in libxklavier library
- a bug in X server (xkbcomp, xmodmap utilities)
- X server with incompatible libxkbfile implementation

X server version data:
The X.Org Foundation
10603000

If you report this situation as a bug, please include:
- The result of xprop -root | grep XKB
- The result of gconftool-2 -R /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd
**

Here is the requested information:

$ xprop -root | grep XKB
_XKB_RULES_NAMES_BACKUP(STRING) = "evdev", "evdev", "us", "intl", 
"terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp"
_XKB_RULES_NAMES(STRING) = "evdev", "evdev", "us", "", ""

$ gconftool-2 -R /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd
 layouts = [us-acentos,us   intl]
 options = [grp grp:shift_caps_toggle,terminate terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp]
 model = latitude


I notice that dead keys don't work anymore, whatever using the
"us-acentos" layout imported from the upgrade to F11 (strange, it is
the first time I see such layout name in X11, us-acentos is the name in
TTY) or a new layout "USA international (with dead keys)" set up using
GNOME keyboard prefs.

The us-acentos layout works fine in TTY, my xorg.conf is set up for a
US intl keyboard:

Section "InputDevice"
# keyboard added by rhpxl
Identifier  "Keyboard0"
Driver  "kbd"
Option  "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
Option  "XkbVariant" "intl"
EndSection

This is a Fedora 11 (just upgraded by yum from Fedora 10), running on a
Dell Latitude E6500. The same hardware/config was running fine in
Fedora 10.


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Re: kmail eating my maildir???

[Honza 'thingwath' Bartoš]

2009/9/3 Christoph Höger :
>
>> KMail can't do this. And it doesn't support Akonadi (which can do this) yet.
>> So IMAP is the only way...
>
> KMail can't do what? Simply reading Maildirs?
>

KMail can read Maildirs, but it will always copy its content to
KMail's own storage somewhere at ~/.kde/...
Akonadi can use Maildirs without copying them anywhere (thus making it
possible to use both Akonadi-based clients, mutt, or anything else),
but KMail doesn't use Akonadi yet :-/

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Re: Chrome-Fedora People

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 08:01 -0400, NoSpaze wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 22:58 -0400, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
> > On 09/01/2009 10:24 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 21:16 -0400, Jim wrote:
> ...
> > > That worked for me, but when I try to view video it claims that Flash is
> > > not installed, which it is (64-bit Adobe version). There doesn't appear
> > > to be a way to configure this.
> 
> Using x86_64 + flashplayer 64bits -beta-, worked this way:
> 
> # ln -s /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/* /usr/lib64/chromium-browser/plugins

It didn't work for me, even with --enable-plugins.

> Check the about:config URL.

I get a blank page.

poc

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Re: Anyone using Skype on FC11 ?

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 13:13 +0930, Tim wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan:
> > You're talking about the CPE (Customer Premises Equipment). The CPE is
> > not the phone system, which is choc-a-bloc with highly proprietary
> > systems, both hardware and software. Nobody cares unless it breaks down.
> > (Please don't take this as an argument against open source).
> 
> And which part of a phone system would a user be wanting to run
> customised on their own premises?  The phone, not the exchange.  People
> run skype, and its ilk, to have an alternative phone in their hot little
> hands.

Make the equation phone==PC, Skype infrastructure==phone system. The
doubts about Skype security are not focussed on what's running in your
PC but on what Skype might be doing in their cloud.

You can hack your phone because it has no security at all, but you have
no idea what's going on the phone system except that you know for a fact
that government agencies (and possibly others) can tap into it.

You can't hack Skype (easily) because it's a proprietary black box, and
you also have no idea what's going on in the Skype cloud, but there are
some unconfirmed rumours that some people might be able to tap into it.

The point of my original post was that people complaining about Skype
security should consider whether the normal phone system is secure.

Obviously, comparing either of them with a well-designed, open source,
end-to-end secure system is a different kettle of fish. SIP *may* be the
basis of such a system, but it's worth noting that many implementations,
including Ekiga, offer *no encryption at all*.

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Re: kmail eating my maildir???

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> KMail can't do this. And it doesn't support Akonadi (which can do this) yet.
> So IMAP is the only way...

KMail can't do what? Simply reading Maildirs?


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Re: kmail eating my maildir???

[Honza 'thingwath' Bartoš]

2009/9/3 Christoph Höger :
> I am using no IMAP. This is a plain Maildir. I simply have my mails
> inside a good old maildir - which is emptied by KMail.
>

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55421

KMail can't do this. And it doesn't support Akonadi (which can do this) yet.
So IMAP is the only way...

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Re: kmail eating my maildir???

[Christoph Höger]

Am Donnerstag, den 03.09.2009, 14:47 +0100 schrieb Anne Wilson:
> On Thursday 03 September 2009 13:39:36 Christoph Höger wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I recently tried KDE 4.3 and despite some gfx performance flaws this one
> > got me screaming: I installed kdepim 4.3 and run kmail, setup my maildir as
> > inbox and the first thing I noticed: All mails were new, "odd" I thought
> > and wanted to take a look at my maildir via mutt. To my surprise: My INBOX
> > was empty now. RGHH. ALL MAILS GONE!
> >
> > Is this really the way to go? Is there no way to keep a sync between the
> > maildir and akonadi?
> >
> Are you using standard packages?  I have three installations all running KDE 
> 4.3, and all using KMail to access IMAP mail.  I have no such problem, so the 
> question is, what is different about your install?

I am using no IMAP. This is a plain Maildir. I simply have my mails
inside a good old maildir - which is emptied by KMail.


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Re: volume is erratic in Rhythmbox

[Derek Cramer]

2009/9/3 Antonio M :
> sometimes volume is erratic in Rhythmbox, when I connect to a radio
> stream slide goes to zero!!!
> and sometimes it doesn't remember volume setting from a session to the next.
> anyone experiencing same behaviour???
> Latest packages are in use

I have the same issue. Sometimes it chooses a volume level of its own
accord and stubbornly reverts back to it whenever it feels like it
(usually after un-pausing or skipping a song). The chosen level is
usually somewhere just above the level I want.

The above refers to the main volume control in Gnome. The volume
control in Rhythmbox is weirder still. It usually shows itself at
zero, but if I nudge it up any amount at all, it pushes the main
volume up way too high. So I leave it alone.

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Re: Fedora11: Plans for updated mesa/xorg packages ?

[Terry Barnaby]

On 09/03/2009 02:11 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

On 09/03/2009 01:34 PM, Terry Barnaby wrote:

Does anyone know if there is a plan to release updated
xorg/mesa packages for F11 any time soon ?
The F11 ones are very broken, at least for ATI radeon based systems.
I have been using code from freedesktops git sources
(drm,mesa,xf86-video-ati) and this is now getting there, at least
blender works !
However, the changes needed to the stock F11 are now getting larger
(xserver update) and it would be good to have an RPM based system again !


Do you have bugzilla numbers so we know what breakage you are talking about?

Rahul



There are a large number of ATI R200/R300/R500 bugs listed in Freedesktop's
bugzilla. Two that I have had dealings with are: 21774 and 23232, however
due to heavy development in the xorg/mesa packages there are a lot more
than that. Before using the git sources for drm/mesa,xf86-video-ati I had
various crashes, hangs, system lockups and pixel errors on the screen on both 
R300 and R200 based systems. I think it is the same for Intel graphics as well. 
I don't like using raw git/non RPM code on my systems, but, without the git 
xorg/mesa code F11 is unworkable for me.


Unfortunately the bug, 23232, requires a more recent XOrg XServer. This has
heavy system dependencies and would require me to do a lot of work in building
many packages right down to OpenSSL ...

It seems, to me, that the XOrg/Mesa code has got a lot better since the
code F11 was based on and a F11 update is due. It would certainly help me and 
many others ...



Cheers


Terry

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Fedora 11: no display after init sequence

[wwp]

Hello there,


after I upgraded from Fedora 10 to 11 using yum preupgrade (as proposed by the
daily process that checks for upgrades in GNOME), display in X.org doesn't
work anymore.

My guess is that it's a video/display issue, directly or indirectly, because
the system is responding, meaning I can login in gdm in blind mode using the
keyboard (I got confirmation by reading /var/log/0-slave.log) but the display
is not updated after the loading process with the Fedora logo.

If I boot up in init 2 mode then switch to init 5, I get a blank screen with
a still cursor in top/left corner.

I tried booting with xdriver=vesa as kernel param, same problem.

I changed my xorg.conf to use the vesa driver instead of the intel one, same
problem, with a variant: the blue screen with Fedora logo shows corrupted.

I tried both Option NoAccel True Option DRI False in xorg.conf (file
attached),
same problem.

I tried `X -configure` then `X -config /root/xorg.conf.new`, same problem
(file attached).

When the display is not responding, I cannot switch back to a tty using
ctrl+alt+Fn key combinations, meaning I have to reboot each time I want
to try a different X.org config param.

Nothing looked suspicious to my eyes in /var/log/messages or in
/var/log/Xorg.0.log (attached).

Hardware is a Dell Latitude E6500 with Intel chip and a WUXGA display
(1920x1200). I also attached the output of `lspci -vv` and `lsmod|sort`.

The system is up-to-date (yum), with correct Fedora 11 repositories shown
then I run `yum repolist`.

This is a production laptop and I critically need it to be usable quickly.
I've made a complete backup of the system while it was still running
Fedora 10. In last resort I can rollback to the backup, but well.. this is
not my preferred option at all.

Any help? What could I check or try?


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Release Date: 2009-7-31
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.18-128.4.1.el5 i686 
Current Operating System: Linux monolith 2.6.30.5-43.fc11.i686.PAE #1 SMP Thu Aug 27 21:34:36 EDT 2009 i686
Kernel command line: ro root=UUID=045fd764-aead-4d18-8257-2f97c08b3e93 rhgb quiet
Build Date: 19 August 2009  12:30:16AM
Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.6.3-4.fc11 
	Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
	to make sure that you have the latest version.
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	(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Thu Sep  3 09:03:22 2009
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(==) ServerLayout "single head configuration"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Monitor0"
(**) |   |-->Device "Videocard0"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0"
(**) Option "DontZap" "false"
(==) Automatically adding devices
(==) Automatically enabling devices
(==) FontPath set to:
	catalogue:/etc/X11/fontpath.d,
	built-ins
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
(II) Cannot locate a core pointer device.
(II) The server relies on HAL to provide the list of input devices.
	If no devices become available, reconfigure HAL or disable AllowEmptyInput.
(WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or 'vmmouse' will be disabled.
(WW) Disabling Keyboard0
(II) Loader magic: 0xa40
(II) Module ABI versions:
	X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
	X.Org Video Driver: 5.0
	X.Org XInput driver : 4.0
	X.Org Server Extension : 2.0
(II) Loader running on linux
(++) using VT number 1

(--) PCI:*(0:0:2:0) 8086:2a42:1028:024f Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller rev 7, Mem @ 0xf6c0/4194304, 0xe000/268435456, I/O @ 0xef98/8, BIOS @ 0x/131072
(II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel
(II) System resource ranges:
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	[1] -1	0	0x000f - 0x000f (0x1) MX[B]
	[2] -1	0	0x000c - 0x000e (0x3) MX[B]
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(II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
	compiled for 1.6.3, module version = 1.0.0
	Module class: X.Org Server Extension
	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension SELinux
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
(II) Loading extension DPMS
(II) Loading extension XVideo
(II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
(II) Loading extension X-Resource
(II) LoadModule: "dbe"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdbe.so
(II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
	compiled for 1.6.3, module version = 1.0.0
	Module class: X.Org Server Extension
	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, versi

Re: kmail eating my maildir???

[Anne Wilson]

On Thursday 03 September 2009 13:39:36 Christoph Höger wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I recently tried KDE 4.3 and despite some gfx performance flaws this one
> got me screaming: I installed kdepim 4.3 and run kmail, setup my maildir as
> inbox and the first thing I noticed: All mails were new, "odd" I thought
> and wanted to take a look at my maildir via mutt. To my surprise: My INBOX
> was empty now. RGHH. ALL MAILS GONE!
>
> Is this really the way to go? Is there no way to keep a sync between the
> maildir and akonadi?
>
Are you using standard packages?  I have three installations all running KDE 
4.3, and all using KMail to access IMAP mail.  I have no such problem, so the 
question is, what is different about your install?

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Getting to grips with Plasma

[Anne Wilson]

If KDE 4 still feels strange to you, UserBase now has a treat in store.  Hans 
(aka Mogger, on IRC) has created a whole set of short looping screencasts that 
show you exactly how to do all the common tasks associated with Plasma - 
covering desktop and panel widgets, extenders and activities.  Each one lasts 
only a few seconds, but because it loops you have plenty of time to see 
exactly what is happening.  Find them at 
http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/FAQ/HowTo

In case you didn't already know, there are already

http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma  #a general introduction
http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/FAQ  #now updated to 4.3
http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/Plasmoids#a few of our favourite 
plasmoids.  
Why not add your favourites?

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volume is erratic in Rhythmbox

[Antonio M]

sometimes volume is erratic in Rhythmbox, when I connect to a radio
stream slide goes to zero!!!
and sometimes it doesn't remember volume setting from a session to the next.
anyone experiencing same behaviour???
Latest packages are in use
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Re: Removing Gnome from F11

[rgheck]

On 09/02/2009 11:26 PM, john wendel wrote:


I'm happily using LXDE on my F11 system, and I thought I'd remove
Gnome, using "yum remove gnome\*".

Well, it was not to be. Yum decide to remove parts of LXDE, Firefox,
Thunderbird, Java, abiword, most of the "system" admin utilities, and
about 50 other programs that I would think have nothing to do with Gnome.

That's going to remove a whole ton of stuff. I don't find it terribly 
surprising that it ends up removing firefox. In any event, the reason 
firefox gets removed is it depends upon xulrunner, which depends upon 
gnome-vfs2. (I found this out using "yum deplist ...".) Why exactly we 
have that dependency, I do not know. I'll guess that the same is true 
for Thunderbird. And isn't abiword specifically a wp for Gnome?


The system-* packages often depend upon gnome-python2-gnomekeyring. This 
is not surprising. These are Fedora programs, and Fedora is, and long 
has been, a Gnome-centric distribution. Those of us who use it with KDE 
or some other desktop/wm have to live with that.



Am I stupid or what? Why would Fedora's Firefox have a Gnome
dependency when I'm sure that the Mozilla version doesn't? Are these
"real" dependencies or packaging artifacts?


The Mozilla version is probably statically compiled, for one thing.

rh

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So, how are the laptops (MBP, W500, XPS 16)?

[Brian Ericson]

I'm contemplating a laptop purchase and my current "top three" 
candidates are a MBP 17, Lenovo W500 (WUXGA/ATI Mobility FireGL V5700 
(512MB)), and a Dell XPS 16 (1080p/ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4670 (1G)).  I 
get the impression -- were I to go with the Lenovo or Dell -- that I'm 
pretty much stuck with the 2D radeon drivers, which seems a shame (I 
confess I like Compiz).


Can anyone comment on their experiences with these laptops?
o How well does video work?
o Sound?
o Sleep/resume?
o Fan noise?

My only two data points are the T61p I tried (shortly after Hardy Heron 
released; back then, they were using an NVIDIA card) and my wife's MBP.  
Hardy Heron wanted to run the T61p's (loud) fan constantly and 
sleep/resume, when it worked, took "forever" (over a minute to 
re-establish wireless connectivity).  I found it unusable next to my 
wife's MBP which is generally quiet, resumes instantly, and rarely gets 
rebooted (despite both of us being constantly logged onto it).


I'm hoping to hear that Linux has come a long way since my last attempt 
and would work well with either the Lenovo or the Dell.  But, if ATI is 
still to be avoided, does anyone have have any experience with "The 
Beast" (Lenovo W700), which ships with an NVIDIA card?  Seems too big, 
but I'll bet the screen is much nicer than the almost-too-dim W500's.


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Re: Removing Gnome from F11

[Aaron Konstam]

On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 20:26 -0700, john wendel wrote:
> I'm happily using LXDE on my F11 system, and I thought I'd remove Gnome, 
> using "yum remove gnome\*".
> 
> Well, it was not to be. Yum decide to remove parts of LXDE, Firefox, 
> Thunderbird, Java, abiword, most of the "system" admin utilities, and 
> about 50 other programs that I would think have nothing to do with Gnome.
> 
> Am I stupid or what? Why would Fedora's Firefox have a Gnome dependency 
> when I'm sure that the Mozilla version doesn't? Are these "real" 
> dependencies or packaging artifacts?
> 
> I don't think I like this disto as much as I once did.
> 
> John
> 
Have you tried:
 yum groupremove GNOME Desktop Environment
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Re: Unable to install libX11

[Michael Schwendt]

On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 17:11:14 +0530 (IST), SriLatha wrote:

> Hey i found that two files in /etc/yum.repos.d which are 
> adobe-linux-i386.repo and yum-iisc-f11.repo.
> 

Have you talked to the IISC guys yet?

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Re: Removing Gnome from F11

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 09/03/2009 08:56 AM, john wendel wrote:
> 
> I'm happily using LXDE on my F11 system, and I thought I'd remove Gnome,
> using "yum remove gnome\*".
> 
> Well, it was not to be. Yum decide to remove parts of LXDE, Firefox,
> Thunderbird, Java, abiword, most of the "system" admin utilities, and
> about 50 other programs that I would think have nothing to do with Gnome.
> 
> Am I stupid or what? Why would Fedora's Firefox have a Gnome dependency
> when I'm sure that the Mozilla version doesn't? Are these "real"
> dependencies or packaging artifacts?
> 
> I don't think I like this disto as much as I once did.

Firefox uses GNOME VFS in Fedora. It can be disabled however that would
would mean reduced functionality.

Rahul

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Re: Fedora11: Plans for updated mesa/xorg packages ?

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 09/03/2009 01:34 PM, Terry Barnaby wrote:
> Does anyone know if there is a plan to release updated
> xorg/mesa packages for F11 any time soon ?
> The F11 ones are very broken, at least for ATI radeon based systems.
> I have been using code from freedesktops git sources
> (drm,mesa,xf86-video-ati) and this is now getting there, at least
> blender works !
> However, the changes needed to the stock F11 are now getting larger
> (xserver update) and it would be good to have an RPM based system again !

Do you have bugzilla numbers so we know what breakage you are talking about?

Rahul

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Re: problems posting

[Paul Allen Newell]

Roger wrote:

On 09/03/2009 02:25 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
Over the last 3 months, I noticed that I have posted and not gotten 
any responses. Fair enough, maybe the posts aren't worth it.


But I just did a check of the archives and I don't see any of my 
posts. Don't know if I am incorrectly posting or, in worse case, 
blacklisted. So, I am sending out a test with the hopes that someone 
at least tells me that it was seen.


I posted this on 27jul09 and didn't hear anything, so I dug in a bit 
deeper with my email provider and think I have it sorted out. So, I 
am cut-and-pasting (with the addition of this paragraph) and trying 
again.


If no answer, then at least I have something to go back to the 
fedora-lists and/or my email provider to go "huh?"


Thanks in advance,
Paul


Your post came thru, I read it
I've had no luck contributing to the above address either.
Roger


Thanks for confirm that I've got the email address sorted out

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Re: Fedora update using preugrade with 2 arch.

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 09/03/2009 06:10 PM, Luc MAIGNAN wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Is it safe to "preupgrade" a F7 32 bits to a F11 64 bits ?

No. Backup your data and do a fresh installation.

Rahul

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Re: Fedora update using preugrade with 2 arch.

[Ed Greshko]

Luc MAIGNAN wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is it safe to "preupgrade" a F7 32 bits to a F11 64 bits ?
>
> BR
>
All I know is  I wouldn't do it

Not only is F7-->F11 a big jump in and of itself...but trying to go from
32 ~ 64 bits would certainly add to the complexity to the point of
likely utter disaster

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Fedora update using preugrade with 2 arch.

[Luc MAIGNAN]

Hi,

Is it safe to "preupgrade" a F7 32 bits to a F11 64 bits ?

BR

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kmail eating my maildir???

[Christoph Höger]

Hi guys,

I recently tried KDE 4.3 and despite some gfx performance flaws this one got me 
screaming:
I installed kdepim 4.3 and run kmail, setup my maildir as inbox and the first 
thing I noticed: All mails were new, "odd" I thought and wanted to take a look 
at my maildir via mutt. To my surprise: My INBOX was empty now. RGHH. ALL 
MAILS GONE!

Is this really the way to go? Is there no way to keep a sync between the 
maildir and akonadi?

regards,

Christoph

ps: sent by mutt ;)

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Re: Chrome-Fedora People

[NoSpaze]

On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 22:58 -0400, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
> On 09/01/2009 10:24 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 21:16 -0400, Jim wrote:
...
> > That worked for me, but when I try to view video it claims that Flash is
> > not installed, which it is (64-bit Adobe version). There doesn't appear
> > to be a way to configure this.

Using x86_64 + flashplayer 64bits -beta-, worked this way:

# ln -s /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/* /usr/lib64/chromium-browser/plugins

Check the about:config URL.
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Fw: Unable to install libX11

[SriLatha]

Thanks for the suggestions.

Hey i found two files in /etc/yum.repos.d which are adobe-linux-i386.repo and 
yum-iisc-f11.repo which has contents which iam attaching here.

In response to your suggestion, I tried copying even fedora.repo and 
fedora-updates.repo also which iam attaching here. 

I tried now installing using yum install libX11-devel\* but there is no 
progress. It got stuck in refresh-package-list. I copied the libX11 packages 
into /var/cache/yum/updates/packages.

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Re: Anyone using Skype on FC11 ?

[jack craig]

until this actual attempt to use it, i had assumed it was open source.

as its not, i dont expect i will use it; someone else had asked me to 
try it.


i found most of my earlier issues were with install issues that weren't 
immediately obvious,

now i seem to have sound via PA and i get no errors on a test call.

i just want  to verify i can make a call and will probly set it aside; i 
am not a supporter/user of closed source.


thx for your time to reply, jackc...


On 08/30/2009 01:24 AM, Tim wrote:

On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 15:07 -0700, jack craig wrote:
   

is the source open anywhere?
 

It's a closed source application.  That, and the various discovered
nasties (never mind the ones that haven't, yet, been discovered, because
it's closed source), are why it's not well regarded here.

   


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Re: convert ico to svg or png

[Hiisi]

Gerhard Magnus
Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:20:42 -0700


Does anyone know a program for FC11 that will convert Windows icon 

files

(.ico) into a format accepted by gnome (.svg or .png)?



I asked nearly the same question recently on this list. I was suggested 
to use mogrify. It's a part of image-magick project 
(www.imagemagick.org). Works excellent! It is in fedora' repos.

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Re: X wont start for install on an hp pavilion HDX-16 1370us

[Steven I Usdansky]

I had a similar problem with my HP S3707c desktop (GeForce 9100M graphics). 
Ended up booting into text mode with kernel parameter nouveau.modeset=0,
logged in as root (no password), ran Xorg -configure, edited the resulting file 
to use the vesa driver and copied it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, then ran startx. 


  

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Unable to install libX11

[SriLatha]

Hey i found that two files in /etc/yum.repos.d which are adobe-linux-i386.repo 
and yum-iisc-f11.repo.

Also try looking in the directory 
/etc/yum.repos.d/

Do you have the following two files there?
fedora.repo
fedora-updates.repo 

What are their contents?

As the other responders said, you haven't shown us the real error yet.

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Re: Question on shredding a terebyte drive

[Robert L Cochran]

After reading the entire thread, and watching the video, here is what 
I'd do.


Put the drive in a safe.

Go buy a new drive, and make use of it.

Drop the warranty claim even though it is valid. The company will save 
money in the end.


In about 10 years, or whenever the corporate data on the drive is deemed 
obsolete and nonsensitive, hold a Corporate Smash Day in which this 
drive and others are given to budding young technologists supplied with 
sledgehammers and other tools. Offer an all-expenses paid dinner to 
whoever reduces the drives to the smallest pieces.


Bob




On 09/02/2009 04:32 PM, Dean S. Messing wrote:

I have a terebyte sata drive that I need to securely wipe clean.  It
originally had 2 partitions.  I deleted them using `fdisk', rebooted,
and then as root ran

 shred -vz /dev/sdd

The drive is capable of about 60MB/sec, but shred is only "shredding"
about 25MB every 5 seconds according to its output.  Since the default
number of passes is 25, this works out to about 5 days.

The `shred' process is running at 100% CPU, presumably computing
the special random patterns for erasure.  Since I have 4 CPUs
would creating 4 unformatted partions on the drive and then running
something like:

shred -vz /dev/sdd1
shred -vz /dev/sdd2
shred -vz /dev/sdd3
shred -vz /dev/sdd4

in parallel cut my time?  Would be just as secure?

Thanks
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Re: So far I am not impressed with F11

[Ian Malone]

2009/9/3 s :
> On 09/02/2009 01:38 PM, Randall J. Berry wrote:
>>
>> So far F11 has been nothing short of a pain for me. I have had more issues
>> with this one release than I have for all of the preceding releases
>> combined.
>>
>>
>> Next comes the issues with streaming audio or video. Since the update of
>> Firefox 3.1 to 3.1.1 all streaming media (youtube and the like) played
>> through the browser crashes at random points within the stream usually
>> locking up the browser for a period of time and the audio/video does not
>> return to normal. I tried to uninstall Firefox 3.1.1 and reinstall Firefox
>> 3.1 but that did not work Firefox simply ceased to work.
>>
>>
>
> Streaming video was crashing for me too. After trying the different plugins
> (Adobe flash, swfdec, xine-plugin) rolling back the nspluginwrapper to
> version 1.3.0-5 fixed the problem.
>

For what it's worth I've had no crash problems running F11 64bit with
the Adobe 64bit beta plugin (search the Adobe site for 64bit flash).
Songbird crashes, but that's not really worrying me at the minute.

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Re: So far I am not impressed with F11

[Robert L Cochran]

Are you really up-to-date with your Fedora 11 system? Firefox is now at 
3.5.2 and you are talking about 3.1.1. You might want to look into that. 
I'm using Firefox 3.5.2 on Fedora 11 x86_64 and have no problems with 
YouTube. I watch YouTube and Vimeo videos just fine. If your system is 
behind on updates, I recommend doing a full update. If you are worried 
about the size of updates, install yum-presto first and then do a full 
update. Presto will download much smaller *.drpm packages if possible 
for your base of installed packages.


Are you sure your sound hardware is plugged in and really working? For 
example you don't have a stereo jack that's not all the way in? It is 
very easy to overlook hardware issues and blame it all on the software.


Bob


On 09/02/2009 02:38 PM, Randall J. Berry wrote:
So far F11 has been nothing short of a pain for me. I have had more 
issues with this one release than I have for all of the preceding 
releases combined.


The issues begin with sound, at any given moment for apparently no 
reason all sound including system sounds turn to static.  This has 
been an issue since day one of my fresh install of F11 and I have yet 
to find a reason for it. I also had the same issue with F10 which is 
why I skipped F10 on the machine in question and waited for F11. I 
have asked countless times for help on this issue and gotten no 
feedback I can't be the only person having this trouble. The only cure 
is a reboot and even then it's only a temporary fix because its sure 
to happen again even after periods of time when the computer has been 
left idle doing nothing.


Next comes the issues with streaming audio or video. Since the update 
of Firefox 3.1 to 3.1.1 all streaming media (youtube and the like) 
played through the browser crashes at random points within the stream 
usually locking up the browser for a period of time and the 
audio/video does not return to normal. I tried to uninstall Firefox 
3.1.1 and reinstall Firefox 3.1 but that did not work Firefox simply 
ceased to work.


Then comes the issues with the power save feature. After the specified 
idle time when the monitor goes to sleep it will not come back with 
any activity via the mouse or keyboard. The only solution seems to be 
a blind reboot. Defeating all power saving features is the only work 
around for this issue. Not a fix, but at least the system is still 
functional.


And last but not least the most recent issue which began last night 
when rebooting due to the previously mentioned sound issue. Which is 
that at random gnome panel now refuses to load on user accounts. The 
system reboots to a normal desktop except no system tray and any panel 
function ceases to operate leaving the desktop virtually unusable. I 
have done nothing to the system that would cause this to happen.


I'm at my wits end with F11 as I seem to be the only one with these 
issues. If anyone has any idea what is going on please feel free to 
fill me in. I'll gladly file bugs if I knew what to file the bugs 
against but so far these issues appear without leaving any trace as to 
why.




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using ant-conrib.rpm

[Christoph Höger]

Hi,

has anybody any idea how to use the ant-contrib.rpm?
It sits there in /usr/share/java but ant reports an error on:



Suggestions?

Thanks

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Re: So far I am not impressed with F11

[Suvayu Ali]

On Thursday 03 September 2009 12:41 AM, s wrote:

On 09/02/2009 01:38 PM, Randall J. Berry wrote:

So far F11 has been nothing short of a pain for me. I have had more
issues with this one release than I have for all of the preceding
releases combined.


Next comes the issues with streaming audio or video. Since the update
of Firefox 3.1 to 3.1.1 all streaming media (youtube and the like)
played through the browser crashes at random points within the stream
usually locking up the browser for a period of time and the
audio/video does not return to normal. I tried to uninstall Firefox
3.1.1 and reinstall Firefox 3.1 but that did not work Firefox simply
ceased to work.




Streaming video was crashing for me too. After trying the different
plugins (Adobe flash, swfdec, xine-plugin) rolling back the
nspluginwrapper to version 1.3.0-5 fixed the problem.



Don't get me wrong, but I find people tend to stick to their old ways 
and bork up their system trying to do things they _think_ is the _right_ 
way to do just because they have been doing it that way for *a long* 
time. That doesn't mean something is broken.


For starters, all this business about flash and multimedia, earlier ugly 
hacks like wrappers or binary w32 codecs were the _only_ way to go. But 
lately that is not the case. Modern linux distributions _do not_ require 
packages like libflashsupport or nspluginwrapper to meet the usual 
requirements of an user. Most of the time its these which cause the problem.


If the people having problems could be more specific and descriptive 
about their problems then those of us with everything _just working_ 
could try to help. I for one have an almost perfect experience other 
than an unstable session manager for XFCE.


This is what I have installed for my "almost perfect" setup:
for multimedia,


yum list installed \*gstreamer\*
Loaded plugins: keys, presto, refresh-packagekit, verify
Installed Packages
gstreamer.x86_64  0.10.24-1.fc11  @updates
gstreamer-ffmpeg.x86_64   0.10.8-1.fc11   
@rpmfusion-free-updates
gstreamer-plugins-bad.x86_64  0.10.13-6.fc11  
@rpmfusion-free-updates
gstreamer-plugins-bad-extras.x86_64   0.10.13-6.fc11  
@rpmfusion-free-updates
gstreamer-plugins-base.x86_64 0.10.23-3.fc11  @updates
gstreamer-plugins-flumpegdemux.x86_64 0.10.15-6.fc11  installed
gstreamer-plugins-good.x86_64 0.10.15-4.fc11  @updates
gstreamer-plugins-schroedinger.x86_64 1.0.7-1.fc11@updates
gstreamer-plugins-ugly.x86_64 0.10.12-2.fc11  
@rpmfusion-free-updates
gstreamer-python.x86_64   0.10.16-1.fc11  @updates
gstreamer-tools.x86_640.10.24-1.fc11  @updates
phonon-backend-gstreamer.x86_64   4.3.1-6.fc11@updates
totem-gstreamer.x86_642.26.3-1.fc11   @updates



yum list installed \*player\*
Loaded plugins: keys, presto, refresh-packagekit, verify
Installed Packages
gecko-mediaplayer.x86_64   0.9.6-1.fc11   
@rpmfusion-free-updates
gnome-mplayer.x86_64   0.9.6-2.fc11   
@rpmfusion-free-updates
gnome-mplayer-common.x86_640.9.6-2.fc11   
@rpmfusion-free-updates
mplayer.x86_64 1.0-0.109.20090329svn.fc11 @rpmfusion-free
mplayer-doc.x86_64 1.0-0.109.20090329svn.fc11 @rpmfusion-free



yum list installed \*dirac\*
Loaded plugins: keys, presto, refresh-packagekit, verify
Installed Packages
dirac.x86_64 1.0.2-2.fc11 
@fedora
dirac-libs.x86_641.0.2-2.fc11 
@fedora


As for flash, the only thing I have is the 64 bit plugin and it has 
never failed on me.



lt /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/
total 9.6M
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root   41 2009-06-04 16:42 libjavaplugin.so -> 
/etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  86K 2009-06-05 12:09 gecko-mediaplayer-wmp.so
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  86K 2009-06-05 12:09 gecko-mediaplayer.so
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  86K 2009-06-05 12:09 gecko-mediaplayer-rm.so
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  86K 2009-06-05 12:09 gecko-mediaplayer-qt.so
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  86K 2009-06-05 12:09 gecko-mediaplayer-dvx.so
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 6.6K 2009-07-10 06:57 
librhythmbox-itms-detection-plugin.so
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 9.2M 2009-08-01 17:27 libflashplayer.so


Hopefully I haven't come on too strong, but I am sick and tired of all 
the ranting in the recent months and hope that this will help someone 
get started towards a "perfect" setup on Fedora.


PS: Even pulseaudio works here, it has worked almost flawlessly since 
F10. (don't ask me how tho)


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Fedora11: Plans for updated mesa/xorg packages ?

[Terry Barnaby]

Does anyone know if there is a plan to release updated
xorg/mesa packages for F11 any time soon ?
The F11 ones are very broken, at least for ATI radeon based systems.
I have been using code from freedesktops git sources
(drm,mesa,xf86-video-ati) and this is now getting there, at least
blender works !
However, the changes needed to the stock F11 are now getting larger
(xserver update) and it would be good to have an RPM based system again !

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Re: problems posting

[Roger]

On 09/03/2009 02:25 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
Over the last 3 months, I noticed that I have posted and not gotten 
any responses. Fair enough, maybe the posts aren't worth it.


But I just did a check of the archives and I don't see any of my 
posts. Don't know if I am incorrectly posting or, in worse case, 
blacklisted. So, I am sending out a test with the hopes that someone 
at least tells me that it was seen.


I posted this on 27jul09 and didn't hear anything, so I dug in a bit 
deeper with my email provider and think I have it sorted out. So, I am 
cut-and-pasting (with the addition of this paragraph) and trying again.


If no answer, then at least I have something to go back to the 
fedora-lists and/or my email provider to go "huh?"


Thanks in advance,
Paul


Your post came thru, I read it
I've had no luck contributing to the above address either.
Roger

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Fedora 11 boot fails on md with two HBAs

[S Murthy Kambhampaty]

[Fixed typo in header line, etc.; added info at end.]


With Fedora 11 on IBM x3650 M2 (x86_64), I am having problems booting after 
adding a second, add-in, SAS controller with 12 SAS disks in an external 
enclosure.  Without the add-in SAS controller, the system boots fine and 
provides file sharing over samba, etc.

The main problem with this machine is that it has an EFI BIOS which appears to 
bind the external/add-on SAS HBA before the internal one on which the system 
drives are hosted (they are both LSI SAS 3801e HBAs - the internal one has an 
IBM part number, while the external one is LSI).  Changing the BIOS order in 
the option ROMs and disabling boot services on the external/add-on HBA does not 
seem to affect the adapter binding order, and the EFI BIOS does not provide any 
mechanism for controlling this.  Which brings us to the bootup issues.

Note that after booting into rescue mode from the installer image mdadm works 
as expected, with raid arrays detected and started without any problems on the 
disks located on both controllers.  The md configuration is :

/boot is on /dev/md0 with devices  /dev/sd[mn]3, raid1
/root is on /dev/md1 with devices /dev/sd[op]1, raid1
/usr, /var and swap are on an LVM vg on /dev/md2 with devices /dev/sd[m-p]2, 
raid10
/boot/efi is on /dev/md64 with devices /dev/sd[mn]2, raid1

A separate vg for the data volume is on /dev/md127 with devices /dev/sd[a-l], 
raid6 (whole disks)

/dev/sd[m-p] are hosted on the internal HBA, and appear as /dev/sd[a-d] when 
the add-in HBA is disabled.  /dev/sd[a-l] hang of the add-in HBA.  Note that in 
rescue mode, the disks start at /dev/sdc, as I'm booting from a virtual 
console, and /dev/sda and /dev/sdb are assigned to virtual USB disks.

The problem seems to be that during bootup the raid arrays are autodetected 
rather than using mdadm.  If the raid456 module is not included in the initrd 
image, booting fails with raid6 personality not detected, when the boot process 
tries to start /dev/md1 incrementally with /dev/sda as its first member.  (This 
appears not to reference /etc/mdadm.conf in the initrd at all.)

If the raid456 module is included in the initrd image (using --with=raid456), 
booting fails with /dev/sda added incrementally to /dev/md1 and /dev/sdb added 
incrementally to /dev/md2; it appears autodetect fails because the raid device 
was built from rescue mode, so the components are listed with different letters 
in the superblock.

If I put a line in /etc/mdadm.conf in the initird image, to only scan 
partitioned disks (DEVICE /dev/sd*[1234]), boot hangs after loading the raid 
modules. (Potentially on the call to mkblkdevs after scsi_wait_scan is 
rmmod-ed.)

Partitioning /dev/sd[a-l] and setting the partition type to other than 'raid' 
does not seem to make any difference, during bootup the kernel still tries to 
assemble the root raid device (/dev/md1) from /dev/sda (though it is on 
/dev/md[op]1.

This seems to suggest that the md devices are being started by kernel raid 
autodetection rather than mdadm.  Simply switching to mdamd would likely solve 
the problem, given it works fine in rescue mode.  Alternative suggestions are 
welcome, of course.

Thanks for the help,
   Murthy


  

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Re: So far I am not impressed with F11

[s]

On 09/02/2009 01:38 PM, Randall J. Berry wrote:
So far F11 has been nothing short of a pain for me. I have had more 
issues with this one release than I have for all of the preceding 
releases combined.



Next comes the issues with streaming audio or video. Since the update 
of Firefox 3.1 to 3.1.1 all streaming media (youtube and the like) 
played through the browser crashes at random points within the stream 
usually locking up the browser for a period of time and the 
audio/video does not return to normal. I tried to uninstall Firefox 
3.1.1 and reinstall Firefox 3.1 but that did not work Firefox simply 
ceased to work.





Streaming video was crashing for me too. After trying the different 
plugins (Adobe flash, swfdec, xine-plugin) rolling back the 
nspluginwrapper to version 1.3.0-5 fixed the problem.


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