Can't Create repos

2009-09-03 Thread NGUYEN VAN TAN
I'm trying to construct koji-server on Fedora 10, but I got an error.
Kojira can't create repos. It is always failed when try to create repos.

2009-09-03 14:06:44,449 [INFO] koji.repo.manager: Created newRepo task 116 for 
tag 2 (dist-foo-build)
2009-09-03 14:07:00,198 [INFO] koji.repo.manager: Found repo 24, state=INIT
2009-09-03 14:07:16,096 [INFO] koji.repo.manager: Problem: newRepo task 116 for 
tag 2 is FAILED
2009-09-03 14:10:00,128 [INFO] koji.repo.manager: Created newRepo task 121 for 
tag 2 (dist-foo-build)
2009-09-03 14:10:05,331 [INFO] koji.repo.manager: Problem: newRepo task 121 for 
tag 2 is FAILED
2009-09-03 14:10:05,397 [INFO] koji.repo.manager: Found repo 25, state=INIT
[r...@localhost kojibuilder1]# tail /var/log/kojira.log 
2009-09-03 14:07:16,096 [INFO] koji.repo.manager: Problem: newRepo task 116 for 
tag 2 is FAILED
2009-09-03 14:10:00,128 [INFO] koji.repo.manager: Created newRepo task 121 for 
tag 2 (dist-foo-build)
2009-09-03 14:10:05,331 [INFO] koji.repo.manager: Problem: newRepo task 121 for 
tag 2 is FAILED
2009-09-03 14:10:05,397 [INFO] koji.repo.manager: Found repo 25, state=INIT
2009-09-03 14:13:05,745 [INFO] koji.repo.manager: Created newRepo task 128 for 
tag 2 (dist-foo-build)
2009-09-03 14:13:21,376 [INFO] koji.repo.manager: Found repo 26, state=INIT
2009-09-03 14:13:37,095 [INFO] koji.repo.manager: Problem: newRepo task 128 for 
tag 2 is FAILED
2009-09-03 14:16:23,676 [INFO] koji.repo.manager: Created newRepo task 133 for 
tag 2 (dist-foo-build)
2009-09-03 14:16:39,445 [INFO] koji.repo.manager: Problem: newRepo task 133 for 
tag 2 is FAILED
2009-09-03 14:16:39,492 [INFO] koji.repo.manager: Found repo 27, state=INIT

Anyone got this error? And Could you tell me how to solve it?

Thanks in advance.
 

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Re: Can't Create repos

2009-09-03 Thread rotru
I have already had this problem. Re-check the repo directory permission 
(usually in /mnt/koji) and selinux linux permissions as well.
I have selinux disabled, to avoid problems.

I may find more usefull information in kojid.log.

Rodrigo Trujillo



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Can't Create repos




I'm trying to construct koji-server on Fedora 10, but I got an error.
Kojira can't create repos. It is always failed when try to create repos.

2009-09-03 14:06:44,449 [INFO] koji.repo.manager: Created newRepo task 116 
for tag 2 (dist-foo-build)
2009-09-03 14:07:00,198 [INFO] koji.repo.manager: Found repo 24, 
state=INIT
2009-09-03 14:07:16,096 [INFO] koji.repo.manager: Problem: newRepo task 
116 for tag 2 is FAILED
2009-09-03 14:10:00,128 [INFO] koji.repo.manager: Created newRepo task 121 
for tag 2 (dist-foo-build)
2009-09-03 14:10:05,331 [INFO] koji.repo.manager: Problem: newRepo task 
121 for tag 2 is FAILED
2009-09-03 14:10:05,397 [INFO] koji.repo.manager: Found repo 25, 
state=INIT
[r...@localhost kojibuilder1]# tail /var/log/kojira.log 
2009-09-03 14:07:16,096 [INFO] koji.repo.manager: Problem: newRepo task 
116 for tag 2 is FAILED
2009-09-03 14:10:00,128 [INFO] koji.repo.manager: Created newRepo task 121 
for tag 2 (dist-foo-build)
2009-09-03 14:10:05,331 [INFO] koji.repo.manager: Problem: newRepo task 
121 for tag 2 is FAILED
2009-09-03 14:10:05,397 [INFO] koji.repo.manager: Found repo 25, 
state=INIT
2009-09-03 14:13:05,745 [INFO] koji.repo.manager: Created newRepo task 128 
for tag 2 (dist-foo-build)
2009-09-03 14:13:21,376 [INFO] koji.repo.manager: Found repo 26, 
state=INIT
2009-09-03 14:13:37,095 [INFO] koji.repo.manager: Problem: newRepo task 
128 for tag 2 is FAILED
2009-09-03 14:16:23,676 [INFO] koji.repo.manager: Created newRepo task 133 
for tag 2 (dist-foo-build)
2009-09-03 14:16:39,445 [INFO] koji.repo.manager: Problem: newRepo task 
133 for tag 2 is FAILED
2009-09-03 14:16:39,492 [INFO] koji.repo.manager: Found repo 27, 
state=INIT

Anyone got this error? And Could you tell me how to solve it?

Thanks in advance.
 

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Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic-version instead of initrd-version (#519185)

2009-09-03 Thread Hans de Goede

On 09/02/2009 07:17 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:

On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 10:26 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote:

As one of the persons involved in dracut and in integrating dracut into the
distribution I'm rather surprised to hear this.

Where has this been discussed ? Were are the bugs for the situations where
this does not work properly ?

Also as one of the mkinitrd maintainers I would like to know if we're sticking
with mkinitrd for Fedora 12, as there are some open issues which would be
really good to fix before the beta if we go this way.



The fact that it wasn't turned on at Alpha means it really shouldn't be
on now, not without FESCo approval.



That is interesting reasoning, first keep it out of Alpha even though it was
ready as you were afraid it would delay the Alpha further (although there were
no open bugs) and no now use that to also keep it out of Fedora 12 entirely.


We've got some licensing concerns with a pre-generated binary blob of
bits from other packages being shipped with the kernel package, and the
kernel srpm doesn't have any sources to match those binary blobs.



We already do the same with the stage1 and stage2 images of anaconda. The
initrd is just a cpio archive, like the livecd images are just an iso, it is
all mere aggregation.


Those are my biggest issues.  I'd much prefer to see work continue on
dracut and have it available for F-12 users, but not default.  We only
have one more major test point, the Beta, and there is very little time
after the beta to repair such a critical function as our initrd
generation, and no opportunity to test such repairs.


dracut already is the default in rawhide and there are very little bug
reports because of it. Not to mention that other Features such as:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Features/FCoE
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Features/MDRaid

Depend up on it.

Regards,

Hans

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Re: ABRT for f12 status

2009-09-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 09/02/2009 10:49 PM, Colin Walters wrote:

 
 Also I've attached a patch which should update the Obsoletes handling
 to correspond with what we determined in discussion earlier;

Versioned obsoletes is preferable.

Rahul

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Re: rpm/mock: can't upbuild FC10 targets on FC9 host

2009-09-03 Thread Paul Howarth

On 02/09/09 22:52, Philip Prindeville wrote:

Seems to be an rpm versioning issue:

[r...@builder SRPMS]# mock -r fedora-10-x86_64 --rebuild 
perl-Net-Patricia-1.15_01-1.fc9.src.rpm
INFO: mock.py version 0.9.14 starting...
State Changed: init plugins
State Changed: start
INFO: Start(perl-Net-Patricia-1.15_01-1.fc9.src.rpm)  Config(fedora-10-x86_64)
State Changed: lock buildroot
State Changed: clean
State Changed: init
State Changed: lock buildroot
Mock Version: 0.9.14
INFO: Mock Version: 0.9.14
INFO: enabled root cache
State Changed: unpacking root cache
INFO: enabled yum cache
State Changed: cleaning yum metadata
INFO: enabled ccache
State Changed: running yum
State Changed: setup
ERROR: Exception(perl-Net-Patricia-1.15_01-1.fc9.src.rpm) 
Config(fedora-10-x86_64) 0 minutes 15 seconds
INFO: Results and/or logs in: /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/result
ERROR: Command failed:
  # /usr/bin/yum --installroot /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/root/  resolvedep 
 ccache  'perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker)'
rpmdb: Program version 4.3 doesn't match environment version
error: db4 error(-30974) from dbenv-open: DB_VERSION_MISMATCH: Database 
environment version mismatch
error: cannot open Packages index using db3 -  (-30974)
error: cannot open Packages database in 
/var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/root/var/lib/rpm
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/bin/yum, line 29, inmodule
 yummain.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True)
   File /usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py, line 229, in user_main
 errcode = main(args)
   File /usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py, line 84, in main
 base.getOptionsConfig(args)
   File /usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py, line 184, in getOptionsConfig
 enabled_plugins=self.optparser._splitArg(opts.enableplugins))
   File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py, line 192, in 
_getConfig
 self._conf = config.readMainConfig(startupconf)
   File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/config.py, line 774, in 
readMainConfig
 yumvars['releasever'] = _getsysver(startupconf.installroot, 
startupconf.distroverpkg)
   File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/config.py, line 844, in 
_getsysver
 idx = ts.dbMatch('provides', distroverpkg)
TypeError: rpmdb open failed

[r...@builder SRPMS]#



The host was originally an FC8 host, that was yum updated to FC9. I use
it to build FC9 and FC10 packages via Mock.

Unfortunately, it looks like it doesn't want to use the old RPM database
from the previous FC8 install.

How do I clobber all of this to that the database gets written afresh?

Apparently, mock -r fedora-10-x86_64 --clean isn't adequate. Perhaps
mock --nuke would be useful here following an version update to zap
stale state?

Or should I just uninstall and reinstall mock?


I'd try this first:

# rm -rf /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/root

Paul.

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rawhide report: 20090903 changes

2009-09-03 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Thu Sep  3 06:15:07 UTC 2009

Broken deps for i386
--
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anjal-0.1.0-0.7.20090821git5ac8bfe.fc12.i686 requires 
libmissioncontrol-client.so.0
clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libclutter-cairo-0.8.so.0
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clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libclutter-glx-0.8.so.0
clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires 
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clutter-gtkmm-devel-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires 
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cpptasks-javadoc-1.0b5-2.fc12.noarch requires cpptasks-1.0b5-2.fc12
gpsdrive-2.10-0.1.pre7.fc12.i586 requires libmapnik.so.0.5
kdebase3-3.5.10-12.fc12.i686 requires libssl.so.8
network-manager-netbook-1.2-5.fc12.i686 requires libnm_glib.so.0
openvrml-0.18.3-1.fc12.i686 requires java(x86-32)
openvrml-0.18.3-1.fc12.i686 requires gecko-libs(x86-32) = 0:1.9.1
ppl-yap-0.10.2-5.fc12.i686 requires libYap.so
python-repoze-what-quickstart-1.0-2.fc12.noarch requires 
python-repoze-who-plugins-sql
qtparted-0.4.5-19.fc11.i586 requires libparted-1.8.so.8
rygel-0.3-5.fc12.i686 requires libgee.so.0
rygel-tracker-0.3-5.fc12.i686 requires libgee.so.0
tabled-0.3-4.fc12.i686 requires libssl.so.8
tabled-0.3-4.fc12.i686 requires libcrypto.so.8
yum-plugin-versionlock-1.1.23-1.fc12.noarch requires yum = 0:3.2.24



Broken deps for x86_64
--
anerley-0.0.20-3.fc12.i686 requires libmissioncontrol-client.so.0
anerley-0.0.20-3.fc12.x86_64 requires 
libmissioncontrol-client.so.0()(64bit)
anerley-devel-0.0.20-3.fc12.i686 requires pkgconfig(libmissioncontrol)
anerley-devel-0.0.20-3.fc12.x86_64 requires pkgconfig(libmissioncontrol)
anjal-0.1.0-0.7.20090821git5ac8bfe.fc12.x86_64 requires 
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clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.x86_64 requires 
libclutter-glx-0.8.so.0()(64bit)
clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.x86_64 requires 
libclutter-cairo-0.8.so.0()(64bit)
clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.x86_64 requires 
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pkgconfig(cluttermm-0.8)
clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires pkgconfig(clutter-0.8)
clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.x86_64 requires 
pkgconfig(cluttermm-0.8)
clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.x86_64 requires 
pkgconfig(clutter-0.8)
clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires libclutter-gtk-0.9.so.0
clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires libclutter-glx-0.9.so.0
clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.x86_64 requires 
libclutter-gtk-0.9.so.0()(64bit)
clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.x86_64 requires 
libclutter-glx-0.9.so.0()(64bit)
clutter-gtkmm-devel-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires 
pkgconfig(clutter-gtk-0.9)
clutter-gtkmm-devel-0.9.4-1.fc12.x86_64 requires 
pkgconfig(clutter-gtk-0.9)
cluttermm-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires libclutter-glx-0.9.so.0
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cluttermm-devel-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires pkgconfig(clutter-0.9)
cluttermm-devel-0.9.4-1.fc12.x86_64 requires pkgconfig(clutter-0.9)
collectd-mysql-4.5.3-2.fc11.x86_64 requires libcrypto.so.8()(64bit)
collectd-mysql-4.5.3-2.fc11.x86_64 requires libssl.so.8()(64bit)
collectd-nut-4.5.3-2.fc11.x86_64 requires libcrypto.so.8()(64bit)
collectd-nut-4.5.3-2.fc11.x86_64 requires libssl.so.8()(64bit)
collectd-snmp-4.5.3-2.fc11.x86_64 requires libcrypto.so.8()(64bit)
cpptasks-javadoc-1.0b5-2.fc12.noarch requires cpptasks-1.0b5-2.fc12
gpsdrive-2.10-0.1.pre7.fc12.x86_64 requires libmapnik.so.0.5()(64bit)
 

Re: rawhide report: 20090903 changes

2009-09-03 Thread Richard Hughes
2009/9/3 Rawhide Report rawh...@fedoraproject.org:
 PackageKit-0.5.2-0.1.20090902git.fc12
 -
 * Wed Sep 02 2009 Richard Hughes  rhug...@redhat.com - 0.5.2-0.1.20090902git
 - Update to a newer git snapshot from the 0.5.x series.
 - Should fix some issues with KPackageKit.

Heads up: this is likely broken -- it will not detect the network
state using NetworkManager due to the recent  libnm_glib - libnm-glib
rename. I'll do a new build today which will fix things.

Richard.

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Ownership avrdude

2009-09-03 Thread Bart Vanbrabant
Hi,

I'm claiming ownership over avrdude. There is a new upstream release
and I'm in progress of packaging software that depends on avrdude.

Any objections?

gr,

Bart

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Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic-version instead of initrd-version (#519185)

2009-09-03 Thread Bill Nottingham
Hans de Goede (j.w.r.dego...@hhs.nl) said: 
 The fact that it wasn't turned on at Alpha means it really shouldn't be
 on now, not without FESCo approval.

 That is interesting reasoning, first keep it out of Alpha even though it was
 ready as you were afraid it would delay the Alpha further (although there were
 no open bugs) and no now use that to also keep it out of Fedora 12 entirely.

I agree - certainly, there has been nothing raised to FESCo yet to
disable it, and it was not removed from the feature list in any FESCo
discussion. That discussion can certainly be had if someone wants to raise
it to FESCo.

 We've got some licensing concerns with a pre-generated binary blob of
 bits from other packages being shipped with the kernel package, and the
 kernel srpm doesn't have any sources to match those binary blobs.


 We already do the same with the stage1 and stage2 images of anaconda. The
 initrd is just a cpio archive, like the livecd images are just an iso, it is
 all mere aggregation.

The issue is that stage1/stage2 are generated at *tree* build time, and
therefore are guaranteed to match the tree (and source RPMs) we ship.
As dracut images are currently built at *kernel* build time, that is
not the case. Moving to building initramfs at kernel install time would
solve this.

Bill

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Minitube - youtube for your desktop, still a little early in development

2009-09-03 Thread Adam Miller
Hey all,
I packaged up this app I stumbled upon called minitube
(http://flavio.tordini.org/minitube) but it seems a bit unstable and I
don't really want to toss it up to a package review until its stable
enough to be shipped but I wanted to mention it to see if anyone might
find a use for it, would help testing and submitting bugs upstream,
etc.

Random side note, a thought that ran across my mind during this
is: Do we have some sort of expectation of stability of software in
the repositories? is there some sort of a policy/guideline or is it
more of a judgement call placed on the packager?

Spec: http://maxamillion.fedorapeople.org/minitube.spec
SRPM: http://maxamillion.fedorapeople.org/minitube-0.5-2.fc11.src.rpm

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Re: sed -i symlink behavior...

2009-09-03 Thread Warren Togami

On 09/02/2009 11:39 AM, Jerry James wrote:

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Warren Togamiwtog...@redhat.com  wrote:

What is the correct behavior?  Is this a bug that it changed?


Read up on the --follow-symlinks option to sed.


This is a new option it seems, meaning I can't rely on sed -i at all 
anymore.  I'm rather displeased that a core utility fundamentally 
changed its own behavior.


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Re: ABRT for f12 status

2009-09-03 Thread Jiri Moskovcak

On 09/02/2009 07:19 PM, Colin Walters wrote:

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Matthias Clasenmcla...@redhat.com  wrote:

On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 17:04 +, Colin Walters wrote:

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Matthias Clasenmcla...@redhat.com  wrote:


After talking to the abrt guys, I've changed the desktop spin ks to
replace bug-buddy and kerneloops by abrt.


This change should be made in comps (as per my original attached
patch), not the kickstart.  If we only change the kickstart then
people doing automatic kickstarted desktop installs will get a
divergent desktop which is not what we want.



Sure, I agree that we should also do this change in comps.


Ok, done.  The comps change should be pulled into the kickstart
through so there shouldn't have been a need to change it as well.

Also I've attached a patch which should update the Obsoletes handling
to correspond with what we determined in discussion earlier; if one of
the ABRT people or a provenpackager could apply that'd be nice.



I pushed the fixed spec file into the git repo. Now I'm testing the new 
package with some additional fixes to make abrt work better with livecd.
(Still didn't get rid of debuginfo installation, as it needs a bit more 
work)


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Re: Minitube - youtube for your desktop, still a little early in development

2009-09-03 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 08:38:49AM -0500, Adam Miller wrote:
 Hey all,
 I packaged up this app I stumbled upon called minitube
 (http://flavio.tordini.org/minitube) but it seems a bit unstable and I
 don't really want to toss it up to a package review until its stable
 enough to be shipped but I wanted to mention it to see if anyone might
 find a use for it, would help testing and submitting bugs upstream,
 etc.

Does it have any functionality that the totem youtube plugin doesn't?

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Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic-version instead of initrd-version (#519185)

2009-09-03 Thread Hans de Goede

Hi,

On 09/03/2009 03:36 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:

Hans de Goede (j.w.r.dego...@hhs.nl) said:

The fact that it wasn't turned on at Alpha means it really shouldn't be
on now, not without FESCo approval.


That is interesting reasoning, first keep it out of Alpha even though it was
ready as you were afraid it would delay the Alpha further (although there were
no open bugs) and no now use that to also keep it out of Fedora 12 entirely.


I agree - certainly, there has been nothing raised to FESCo yet to
disable it, and it was not removed from the feature list in any FESCo
discussion. That discussion can certainly be had if someone wants to raise
it to FESCo.


We've got some licensing concerns with a pre-generated binary blob of
bits from other packages being shipped with the kernel package, and the
kernel srpm doesn't have any sources to match those binary blobs.



We already do the same with the stage1 and stage2 images of anaconda. The
initrd is just a cpio archive, like the livecd images are just an iso, it is
all mere aggregation.


The issue is that stage1/stage2 are generated at *tree* build time, and
therefore are guaranteed to match the tree (and source RPMs) we ship.
As dracut images are currently built at *kernel* build time, that is
not the case. Moving to building initramfs at kernel install time would
solve this.



Yes, but also loose one of the main advantage, that everyone with
kenrel-versionFoo is using the exact same initrd, if we build at install
time, and there is for example an mdraid issue, how do I know which exact 
version
of mdadm is in the initrd ?

I know this argument can be reversed, that if the exact version is not known, 
people
cannot excercise their rights under the GPL. So I suggest we add a list of 
package
NEVR's to the kernel rpm which contains the exact packages used to build the 
initrd,
yet still keep building it as part of the kernel rpm (so at build time), as 
this is
much easier for debugging issues.

It really is like having to support gentoo, versus having to support a distro 
using
pre build packages. And I would really like to move to the having to support a
pre-build package model for the initrd.

Regards,

Hans

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Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic-version instead of initrd-version (#519185)

2009-09-03 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 09/03/2009 10:57 AM, Hans de Goede wrote:
 It really is like having to support gentoo, versus having to support a
 distro using pre build packages. And I would really like to move to the 
 having to
 support a pre-build package model for the initrd.

The problem is this:

The kernel binary RPM contains this pre-built initrd. The kernel source
RPM does not contain the sources necessary to make this pre-built initrd.

This makes me rather uncomfortable from a Licensing perspective. I'm
also concerned about it from a security perspective, as these binaries
are very likely to be overlooked when security updates are pushed.

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Re: NetworkManager-based packages won't rebuild to fix broken deps

2009-09-03 Thread Dan Williams
On Mon, 2009-08-31 at 02:59 -0700, Alex Lancaster wrote:
  CM == Caolán McNamara  writes:
 
 CM On Mon, 2009-08-31 at 01:53 -0700, Alex Lancaster wrote:
   Rawhide Report  writes:
  Has something changed in the API/ABI?
 
 CM The name of the .pc file itself, i.e. libnm-glib.pc - libnm_glib.pc, so
 CM pkg-config --exists libnm-glib instead of pkg-config --exists libnm_glib
 CM etc. No idea if this is an intentional change or not, but I assume that
 CM it is.
 
 If so, it would have been kind of nice to announce it here on
 fedora-devel-list so that maintainers of dependent packages would be
 prepared.  (At least I couldn't find an announcement in the quick
 search of the past few days of archives I checked).

It would have, and I should have done so.  That's my fault.

The API/ABI changed for libnm-glib as a result of the port to PolicyKit
1.0, and the soname was also bumped.  Since the name never should have
been _ in the first place, at the same time as the soname bump and
API/ABI changes, the library name and thus the pkgconfig file name were
also changed.  This also ensures that we see the error more clearly at
build time instead of segfaults due to missing symbols at runtime.

In addition to that, I'll be bumping the soname of the libnm-glib-vpn
library for the Debian folks, but most programs don't link to
libnm-glib-vpn.

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Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic-version instead of initrd-version (#519185)

2009-09-03 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 09/03/2009 11:35 AM, Hans de Goede wrote:
 The kernel binary RPM contains this pre-built initrd. The kernel source
 RPM does not contain the sources necessary to make this pre-built initrd.
 This makes me rather uncomfortable from a Licensing perspective.
 
 True, but we do provide SRPMS with the sources, if we include a list of
 the SRPMS with the sources, with full NEVR in the kernel rpm as doc,
 wouldn't that be sufficient?

Ehh. I'm still thinking about that. We don't generally permit other
packages to do that.

 I'm
 also concerned about it from a security perspective, as these binaries
 are very likely to be overlooked when security updates are pushed.
 
 We already have that issue with mkinitrd, and will have it when we move
 to generating dracut initrd's in %post too. IOW the security issue will
 always be there, so lets focus on the licensing issue please.

Well, it is less of an issue with mkinitrd, because the user can easily
regenerate it. I do not think this is the same case with the generic
initrd. Perhaps we could regenerate the generic initrd on the user's
system if any of the binary packages that are used to make it get an update?

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Re: rpm/mock: can't upbuild FC10 targets on FC9 host

2009-09-03 Thread Philip Prindeville
Paul Howarth wrote:
 On 02/09/09 22:52, Philip Prindeville wrote:
   
 Seems to be an rpm versioning issue:

 [r...@builder SRPMS]# mock -r fedora-10-x86_64 --rebuild 
 perl-Net-Patricia-1.15_01-1.fc9.src.rpm
 INFO: mock.py version 0.9.14 starting...
 State Changed: init plugins
 State Changed: start
 INFO: Start(perl-Net-Patricia-1.15_01-1.fc9.src.rpm)  
 Config(fedora-10-x86_64)
 State Changed: lock buildroot
 State Changed: clean
 State Changed: init
 State Changed: lock buildroot
 Mock Version: 0.9.14
 INFO: Mock Version: 0.9.14
 INFO: enabled root cache
 State Changed: unpacking root cache
 INFO: enabled yum cache
 State Changed: cleaning yum metadata
 INFO: enabled ccache
 State Changed: running yum
 State Changed: setup
 ERROR: Exception(perl-Net-Patricia-1.15_01-1.fc9.src.rpm) 
 Config(fedora-10-x86_64) 0 minutes 15 seconds
 INFO: Results and/or logs in: /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/result
 ERROR: Command failed:
   # /usr/bin/yum --installroot /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/root/  
 resolvedep  ccache  'perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker)'
 rpmdb: Program version 4.3 doesn't match environment version
 error: db4 error(-30974) from dbenv-open: DB_VERSION_MISMATCH: Database 
 environment version mismatch
 error: cannot open Packages index using db3 -  (-30974)
 error: cannot open Packages database in 
 /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/root/var/lib/rpm
 Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/bin/yum, line 29, inmodule
  yummain.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True)
File /usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py, line 229, in user_main
  errcode = main(args)
File /usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py, line 84, in main
  base.getOptionsConfig(args)
File /usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py, line 184, in getOptionsConfig
  enabled_plugins=self.optparser._splitArg(opts.enableplugins))
File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py, line 192, in 
 _getConfig
  self._conf = config.readMainConfig(startupconf)
File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/config.py, line 774, in 
 readMainConfig
  yumvars['releasever'] = _getsysver(startupconf.installroot, 
 startupconf.distroverpkg)
File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/config.py, line 844, in 
 _getsysver
  idx = ts.dbMatch('provides', distroverpkg)
 TypeError: rpmdb open failed

 [r...@builder SRPMS]#



 The host was originally an FC8 host, that was yum updated to FC9. I use
 it to build FC9 and FC10 packages via Mock.

 Unfortunately, it looks like it doesn't want to use the old RPM database
 from the previous FC8 install.

 How do I clobber all of this to that the database gets written afresh?

 Apparently, mock -r fedora-10-x86_64 --clean isn't adequate. Perhaps
 mock --nuke would be useful here following an version update to zap
 stale state?

 Or should I just uninstall and reinstall mock?
 

 I'd try this first:

 # rm -rf /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/root

 Paul.

   

No joy:

[r...@builder SRPMS]# rm -rf /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/root
[r...@builder SRPMS]# mock -r fedora-10-x86_64 --init --rebuild 
perl-Net-Patricia-1.15_01-1.fc9.src.rpm
INFO: mock.py version 0.9.14 starting...
State Changed: init plugins
State Changed: start
INFO: Start(perl-Net-Patricia-1.15_01-1.fc9.src.rpm)  Config(fedora-10-x86_64)
State Changed: lock buildroot
State Changed: clean
State Changed: init
State Changed: lock buildroot
Mock Version: 0.9.14
INFO: Mock Version: 0.9.14
INFO: enabled root cache
State Changed: unpacking root cache
INFO: enabled yum cache
State Changed: cleaning yum metadata
INFO: enabled ccache
State Changed: running yum
State Changed: setup
ERROR: Exception(perl-Net-Patricia-1.15_01-1.fc9.src.rpm) 
Config(fedora-10-x86_64) 0 minutes 30 seconds
INFO: Results and/or logs in: /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/result
ERROR: Command failed: 
 # /usr/bin/yum --installroot /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/root/  resolvedep  
ccache  'perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker)'
rpmdb: Program version 4.3 doesn't match environment version
error: db4 error(-30974) from dbenv-open: DB_VERSION_MISMATCH: Database 
environment version mismatch
error: cannot open Packages index using db3 -  (-30974)
error: cannot open Packages database in 
/var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/root/var/lib/rpm
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/bin/yum, line 29, in module
yummain.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True)
  File /usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py, line 229, in user_main
errcode = main(args)
  File /usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py, line 84, in main
base.getOptionsConfig(args)
  File /usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py, line 184, in getOptionsConfig
enabled_plugins=self.optparser._splitArg(opts.enableplugins))
  File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py, line 192, in 
_getConfig
self._conf = config.readMainConfig(startupconf)
  File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/config.py, line 774, in 
readMainConfig
yumvars['releasever'] = _getsysver(startupconf.installroot, 
startupconf.distroverpkg)
  File 

Re: another spin of TeX Live 2009 packages

2009-09-03 Thread José Matos
On Wednesday 26 August 2009 Jindrich Novy wrote:
 Hi,

 first off, thanks many people who sent me RFE and bugfix
 proposals. I've tried to fix most of them in the current package set
 in the testing repository:

OK, I have finally installed texlive on F11. With this update all worked (with 
the exception of some quirks already reported in this list). Unfortunately in 
the end I had a non working latex.

Making this story short for some reason texlive-latex was not installed when I 
had update the system. Installing it fixed the problem. Does it make sense to 
have the latex packages depending on this?

 Thanks,
 Jindrich

Thanks for the hard, :-)

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Re: rpm/mock: can't upbuild FC10 targets on FC9 host

2009-09-03 Thread Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)
 Could the root cache be broken?

Incompatible changes in RPM between F9 and F10 ?

BTW, F9 was EOLed in July, so if it's broken now, I doubt it will be fixed.


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Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic-version instead of initrd-version (#519185)

2009-09-03 Thread drago01
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Tom spot Callawaytcall...@redhat.com wrote:
 On 09/03/2009 10:57 AM, Hans de Goede wrote:
 It really is like having to support gentoo, versus having to support a
 distro using pre build packages. And I would really like to move to the 
 having to
 support a pre-build package model for the initrd.

 The problem is this:

 The kernel binary RPM contains this pre-built initrd. The kernel source
 RPM does not contain the sources necessary to make this pre-built initrd.

As long as we (fedora) ship the source code this shouldn't be an
issue, or am I missing something?

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Re: rpm/mock: can't upbuild FC10 targets on FC9 host

2009-09-03 Thread Philip Prindeville
Paul Howarth wrote:
 On 03/09/09 17:07, Philip Prindeville wrote:
   
 Paul Howarth wrote:
 
 On 02/09/09 22:52, Philip Prindeville wrote:

   
 Seems to be an rpm versioning issue:

 [r...@builder SRPMS]# mock -r fedora-10-x86_64 --rebuild 
 perl-Net-Patricia-1.15_01-1.fc9.src.rpm
 INFO: mock.py version 0.9.14 starting...
 State Changed: init plugins
 State Changed: start
 INFO: Start(perl-Net-Patricia-1.15_01-1.fc9.src.rpm)  
 Config(fedora-10-x86_64)
 State Changed: lock buildroot
 State Changed: clean
 State Changed: init
 State Changed: lock buildroot
 Mock Version: 0.9.14
 INFO: Mock Version: 0.9.14
 INFO: enabled root cache
 State Changed: unpacking root cache
 INFO: enabled yum cache
 State Changed: cleaning yum metadata
 INFO: enabled ccache
 State Changed: running yum
 State Changed: setup
 ERROR: Exception(perl-Net-Patricia-1.15_01-1.fc9.src.rpm) 
 Config(fedora-10-x86_64) 0 minutes 15 seconds
 INFO: Results and/or logs in: /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/result
 ERROR: Command failed:
# /usr/bin/yum --installroot /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/root/  
 resolvedep  ccache  'perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker)'
 rpmdb: Program version 4.3 doesn't match environment version
 error: db4 error(-30974) from dbenv-open: DB_VERSION_MISMATCH: Database 
 environment version mismatch
 error: cannot open Packages index using db3 -  (-30974)
 error: cannot open Packages database in 
 /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/root/var/lib/rpm
 Traceback (most recent call last):
 File /usr/bin/yum, line 29, inmodule
   yummain.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True)
 File /usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py, line 229, in user_main
   errcode = main(args)
 File /usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py, line 84, in main
   base.getOptionsConfig(args)
 File /usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py, line 184, in getOptionsConfig
   enabled_plugins=self.optparser._splitArg(opts.enableplugins))
 File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py, line 192, in 
 _getConfig
   self._conf = config.readMainConfig(startupconf)
 File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/config.py, line 774, in 
 readMainConfig
   yumvars['releasever'] = _getsysver(startupconf.installroot, 
 startupconf.distroverpkg)
 File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/config.py, line 844, in 
 _getsysver
   idx = ts.dbMatch('provides', distroverpkg)
 TypeError: rpmdb open failed

 [r...@builder SRPMS]#



 The host was originally an FC8 host, that was yum updated to FC9. I use
 it to build FC9 and FC10 packages via Mock.

 Unfortunately, it looks like it doesn't want to use the old RPM database
 from the previous FC8 install.

 How do I clobber all of this to that the database gets written afresh?

 Apparently, mock -r fedora-10-x86_64 --clean isn't adequate. Perhaps
 mock --nuke would be useful here following an version update to zap
 stale state?

 Or should I just uninstall and reinstall mock?

 
 I'd try this first:

 # rm -rf /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/root

 Paul.


   
 No joy:

 [r...@builder SRPMS]# rm -rf /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/root
 [r...@builder SRPMS]# mock -r fedora-10-x86_64 --init --rebuild 
 perl-Net-Patricia-1.15_01-1.fc9.src.rpm
 INFO: mock.py version 0.9.14 starting...
 State Changed: init plugins
 State Changed: start
 INFO: Start(perl-Net-Patricia-1.15_01-1.fc9.src.rpm)  
 Config(fedora-10-x86_64)
 State Changed: lock buildroot
 State Changed: clean
 State Changed: init
 State Changed: lock buildroot
 Mock Version: 0.9.14
 INFO: Mock Version: 0.9.14
 INFO: enabled root cache
 State Changed: unpacking root cache
 INFO: enabled yum cache
 State Changed: cleaning yum metadata
 INFO: enabled ccache
 State Changed: running yum
 State Changed: setup
 ERROR: Exception(perl-Net-Patricia-1.15_01-1.fc9.src.rpm) 
 Config(fedora-10-x86_64) 0 minutes 30 seconds
 INFO: Results and/or logs in: /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/result
 ERROR: Command failed:
   # /usr/bin/yum --installroot /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/root/  
 resolvedep  ccache  'perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker)'
 rpmdb: Program version 4.3 doesn't match environment version
 error: db4 error(-30974) from dbenv-open: DB_VERSION_MISMATCH: Database 
 environment version mismatch
 error: cannot open Packages index using db3 -  (-30974)
 error: cannot open Packages database in 
 /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/root/var/lib/rpm
 Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/bin/yum, line 29, inmodule
  yummain.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True)
File /usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py, line 229, in user_main
  errcode = main(args)
File /usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py, line 84, in main
  base.getOptionsConfig(args)
File /usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py, line 184, in getOptionsConfig
  enabled_plugins=self.optparser._splitArg(opts.enableplugins))
File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py, line 192, in 
 _getConfig
  self._conf = config.readMainConfig(startupconf)
File 

Re: rpm/mock: can't upbuild FC10 targets on FC9 host

2009-09-03 Thread Paul Howarth

On 03/09/09 17:07, Philip Prindeville wrote:

Paul Howarth wrote:

On 02/09/09 22:52, Philip Prindeville wrote:


Seems to be an rpm versioning issue:

[r...@builder SRPMS]# mock -r fedora-10-x86_64 --rebuild 
perl-Net-Patricia-1.15_01-1.fc9.src.rpm
INFO: mock.py version 0.9.14 starting...
State Changed: init plugins
State Changed: start
INFO: Start(perl-Net-Patricia-1.15_01-1.fc9.src.rpm)  Config(fedora-10-x86_64)
State Changed: lock buildroot
State Changed: clean
State Changed: init
State Changed: lock buildroot
Mock Version: 0.9.14
INFO: Mock Version: 0.9.14
INFO: enabled root cache
State Changed: unpacking root cache
INFO: enabled yum cache
State Changed: cleaning yum metadata
INFO: enabled ccache
State Changed: running yum
State Changed: setup
ERROR: Exception(perl-Net-Patricia-1.15_01-1.fc9.src.rpm) 
Config(fedora-10-x86_64) 0 minutes 15 seconds
INFO: Results and/or logs in: /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/result
ERROR: Command failed:
   # /usr/bin/yum --installroot /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/root/  
resolvedep  ccache  'perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker)'
rpmdb: Program version 4.3 doesn't match environment version
error: db4 error(-30974) from dbenv-open: DB_VERSION_MISMATCH: Database 
environment version mismatch
error: cannot open Packages index using db3 -  (-30974)
error: cannot open Packages database in 
/var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/root/var/lib/rpm
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/bin/yum, line 29, inmodule
  yummain.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True)
File /usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py, line 229, in user_main
  errcode = main(args)
File /usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py, line 84, in main
  base.getOptionsConfig(args)
File /usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py, line 184, in getOptionsConfig
  enabled_plugins=self.optparser._splitArg(opts.enableplugins))
File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py, line 192, in 
_getConfig
  self._conf = config.readMainConfig(startupconf)
File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/config.py, line 774, in 
readMainConfig
  yumvars['releasever'] = _getsysver(startupconf.installroot, 
startupconf.distroverpkg)
File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/config.py, line 844, in 
_getsysver
  idx = ts.dbMatch('provides', distroverpkg)
TypeError: rpmdb open failed

[r...@builder SRPMS]#



The host was originally an FC8 host, that was yum updated to FC9. I use
it to build FC9 and FC10 packages via Mock.

Unfortunately, it looks like it doesn't want to use the old RPM database
from the previous FC8 install.

How do I clobber all of this to that the database gets written afresh?

Apparently, mock -r fedora-10-x86_64 --clean isn't adequate. Perhaps
mock --nuke would be useful here following an version update to zap
stale state?

Or should I just uninstall and reinstall mock?



I'd try this first:

# rm -rf /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/root

Paul.




No joy:

[r...@builder SRPMS]# rm -rf /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/root
[r...@builder SRPMS]# mock -r fedora-10-x86_64 --init --rebuild 
perl-Net-Patricia-1.15_01-1.fc9.src.rpm
INFO: mock.py version 0.9.14 starting...
State Changed: init plugins
State Changed: start
INFO: Start(perl-Net-Patricia-1.15_01-1.fc9.src.rpm)  Config(fedora-10-x86_64)
State Changed: lock buildroot
State Changed: clean
State Changed: init
State Changed: lock buildroot
Mock Version: 0.9.14
INFO: Mock Version: 0.9.14
INFO: enabled root cache
State Changed: unpacking root cache
INFO: enabled yum cache
State Changed: cleaning yum metadata
INFO: enabled ccache
State Changed: running yum
State Changed: setup
ERROR: Exception(perl-Net-Patricia-1.15_01-1.fc9.src.rpm) 
Config(fedora-10-x86_64) 0 minutes 30 seconds
INFO: Results and/or logs in: /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/result
ERROR: Command failed:
  # /usr/bin/yum --installroot /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/root/  resolvedep 
 ccache  'perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker)'
rpmdb: Program version 4.3 doesn't match environment version
error: db4 error(-30974) from dbenv-open: DB_VERSION_MISMATCH: Database 
environment version mismatch
error: cannot open Packages index using db3 -  (-30974)
error: cannot open Packages database in 
/var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/root/var/lib/rpm
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/bin/yum, line 29, inmodule
 yummain.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True)
   File /usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py, line 229, in user_main
 errcode = main(args)
   File /usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py, line 84, in main
 base.getOptionsConfig(args)
   File /usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py, line 184, in getOptionsConfig
 enabled_plugins=self.optparser._splitArg(opts.enableplugins))
   File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py, line 192, in 
_getConfig
 self._conf = config.readMainConfig(startupconf)
   File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/config.py, line 774, in 
readMainConfig
 yumvars['releasever'] = _getsysver(startupconf.installroot, 
startupconf.distroverpkg)
   File 

Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic-version instead of initrd-version (#519185)

2009-09-03 Thread Bill Nottingham
Hans de Goede (j.w.r.dego...@hhs.nl) said: 
 It really is like having to support gentoo, versus having to support a
 distro using pre build packages. And I would really like to move to the 
 having to
 support a pre-build package model for the initrd.

 The problem is this:

 The kernel binary RPM contains this pre-built initrd. The kernel source
 RPM does not contain the sources necessary to make this pre-built initrd.
 This makes me rather uncomfortable from a Licensing perspective.

 True, but we do provide SRPMS with the sources, if we include a list of
 the SRPMS with the sources, with full NEVR in the kernel rpm as doc,
 wouldn't that be sufficient?

Not really. In the case of initrd-built-with-kernel, it could be packages
in the buildroot that never leave koji for release/updates, and are then
garbage collected.

Bill

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Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic-version instead of initrd-version (#519185)

2009-09-03 Thread Jesse Keating
On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 18:37 +0200, drago01 wrote:
 As long as we (fedora) ship the source code this shouldn't be an
 issue, or am I missing something? 

See the other messages.  We have no facility to ensure that the binaries
used in generation of the initrd during kernel build have matching srpms
always available during the time that the kernel binary is available.
We have no facility to even guarantee that the binaries used to generate
the initrd at build time will ever be actually shipped, if say kernel
was built at 0800, then say plymouth was built at 1600, and rawhide
composed at 2000 you'd never actually publish the plymouth binary that
went into the initrd, let alone the srpm to match it.

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Re: another spin of TeX Live 2009 packages

2009-09-03 Thread José Matos
On Thursday 27 August 2009 Jindrich Novy wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 03:02:18PM +0200, Jindrich Novy wrote:
  Hi,
 
  first off, thanks many people who sent me RFE and bugfix
  proposals. I've tried to fix most of them in the current package set
  in the testing repository:
 
  rpm -i
  http://jnovy.fedorapeople.org/texlive/texlive-release-2009-0.1.fc11.noarc
 h.rpm

 Forgot to mention that the initial rawhide repository is now available
 as:

 rpm -i
 http://jnovy.fedorapeople.org/texlive/texlive-rawhide-release-2009-0.1.fc11
.noarch.rpm

The update when using the more recent rawhide failed. I suspect that the 
metadata is not updated as I get lots of Package does not match intended 
download.

 Jindrich

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Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic-version instead of initrd-version (#519185)

2009-09-03 Thread Hans de Goede

Hi,

On 09/03/2009 06:00 PM, Tom spot Callaway wrote:

On 09/03/2009 11:35 AM, Hans de Goede wrote:

The kernel binary RPM contains this pre-built initrd. The kernel source
RPM does not contain the sources necessary to make this pre-built initrd.
This makes me rather uncomfortable from a Licensing perspective.


True, but we do provide SRPMS with the sources, if we include a list of
the SRPMS with the sources, with full NEVR in the kernel rpm as doc,
wouldn't that be sufficient?


Ehh. I'm still thinking about that. We don't generally permit other
packages to do that.



Ok let me know which way it is going to be. I'm personally a fan of generating
the initrd on the buildsys, as that way I can get the exact same initrd as
a bug reporter easily. But if you say it has to be generated in %post, I'll 
start
making the necessary adjustments to new-kernel-pkg and kernel.spec


I'm
also concerned about it from a security perspective, as these binaries
are very likely to be overlooked when security updates are pushed.


We already have that issue with mkinitrd, and will have it when we move
to generating dracut initrd's in %post too. IOW the security issue will
always be there, so lets focus on the licensing issue please.


Well, it is less of an issue with mkinitrd, because the user can easily
regenerate it. I do not think this is the same case with the generic
initrd. Perhaps we could regenerate the generic initrd on the user's
system if any of the binary packages that are used to make it get an update?



Regeneration is as easy with dracut as it is with mkinitrd, actually they
have the same cmdline syntax.

The only extra step required with dracut when using pre-generated images is:
yum install dracut

Regards,

Hans

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Re: rpm/mock: can't upbuild FC10 targets on FC9 host

2009-09-03 Thread Panu Matilainen

On Thu, 3 Sep 2009, Philip Prindeville wrote:


No joy:

[r...@builder SRPMS]# rm -rf /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/root
[r...@builder SRPMS]# mock -r fedora-10-x86_64 --init --rebuild 
perl-Net-Patricia-1.15_01-1.fc9.src.rpm


Don't run mock as root. That'll avoid the incompatible db environment 
from getting created. Also some older versions of mock left the db 
environment in the root-cache tarball which is sure to cause problems 
sooner or later (this has been fixed since then but don't remember which 
version)


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Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic-version instead of initrd-version (#519185)

2009-09-03 Thread Hans de Goede

Hi,

On 09/03/2009 06:29 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:

Hans de Goede (j.w.r.dego...@hhs.nl) said:

It really is like having to support gentoo, versus having to support a
distro using pre build packages. And I would really like to move to the having 
to
support a pre-build package model for the initrd.


The problem is this:

The kernel binary RPM contains this pre-built initrd. The kernel source
RPM does not contain the sources necessary to make this pre-built initrd.
This makes me rather uncomfortable from a Licensing perspective.


True, but we do provide SRPMS with the sources, if we include a list of
the SRPMS with the sources, with full NEVR in the kernel rpm as doc,
wouldn't that be sufficient?


Not really. In the case of initrd-built-with-kernel, it could be packages
in the buildroot that never leave koji for release/updates, and are then
garbage collected.



Only if one and the same package gets rebuild twice in a day, and between
those rebuilds a kernel get build. Or a package from updates-testing gets
tagged into the buildroot override and then never becomes stable.

Note that we have the same problem with any package which does static linking
against an lgpl library (such as glibc). Actually if the kernel rpm contains
nevr's of the packages used, a package which does static linking against an
lgpl library will be a bigger problem as there we are not telling the user
which exact version to get to get the library sources used.

And if we have the NEVR as used during build, we can always regenerate the
srpm from CVS + the lookaside cache.

Regards,

Hans

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Plan for tomorrow's (20090903) FESCo meeting

2009-09-03 Thread Bill Nottingham
The following is a list of topics to be discussed at tomorrow's FESCo
meeting, at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net

243 New entry of 'Build packages for which Fedora is upstream for all
language translators' review  correction' for F12 schedule
238 Can libvdpau go in Fedora?

For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket.  The
report of the agenda items can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9

If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to
this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco,
e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during
the open floor.

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Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic-version instead of initrd-version (#519185)

2009-09-03 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 09/03/2009 02:20 PM, Hans de Goede wrote:
 Regeneration is as easy with dracut as it is with mkinitrd, actually they
 have the same cmdline syntax.
 
 The only extra step required with dracut when using pre-generated images
 is:
 yum install dracut

Okay, so is there any reason why we don't have some sort of scriplet
that regenerates the initrd when any of the system binaries used in the
initrd are updated?

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Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic-version instead of initrd-version (#519185)

2009-09-03 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 09/03/2009 02:25 PM, Hans de Goede wrote:
 Note that we have the same problem with any package which does static
 linking against an lgpl library (such as glibc). 

This is (one of the big reasons) why we only permit static linking with
explicit approval from FESCo.

I'm really very uncomfortable with the generic initrd not including
matching sources in the corresponding SRPM (whether that is kernel or
some dedicated generic-dracut package is immaterial). The answer of
the sources are in the Fedora lookaside cache, somewhere, go track it
down yourself isn't really sufficient for me.

Unfortunately, I can't think of a good way to package up a generic
initrd in a way that we can provide source properly. I'm open to
suggestions though.

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Re: sed -i symlink behavior...

2009-09-03 Thread Peter Bloomfield

On 09/02/2009 10:07 AM, Warren Togami wrote:


On 09/02/2009 11:39 AM, Jerry James wrote:


On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Warren Togamiwtogami redhat com   
wrote:


What is the correct behavior?  Is this a bug that it changed?


Read up on the --follow-symlinks option to sed.


This is a new option it seems, meaning I can't rely on sed -i at all  
anymore. I'm rather displeased that a core utility fundamentally changed  
its own behavior.


Warren


Apparently [1] upstream sed always broke symlinks, and Red Hat made a  
patch to follow them instead.  Fedora packages from some point up to  
sed-4.1.5-12.fc11 seem to have used it.  So the default behavior in Fedora  
sed is now consistent with upstream, instead of with the prior patched  
version.  That's inconvenient if you're accustomed to the Red Hat  
version, but better for interoperability!


Peter

[1]  
http://www.nabble.com/Re:-sed:-Patch-to-follow-symlinks-and--c-option-td7471749.html


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Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic-version instead of initrd-version (#519185)

2009-09-03 Thread Casey Dahlin
On 09/03/2009 03:22 PM, Tom spot Callaway wrote:
 On 09/03/2009 02:25 PM, Hans de Goede wrote:
 Note that we have the same problem with any package which does static
 linking against an lgpl library (such as glibc). 
 
 This is (one of the big reasons) why we only permit static linking with
 explicit approval from FESCo.
 
 I'm really very uncomfortable with the generic initrd not including
 matching sources in the corresponding SRPM (whether that is kernel or
 some dedicated generic-dracut package is immaterial). The answer of
 the sources are in the Fedora lookaside cache, somewhere, go track it
 down yourself isn't really sufficient for me.
 
 Unfortunately, I can't think of a good way to package up a generic
 initrd in a way that we can provide source properly. I'm open to
 suggestions though.
 
 ~spot
 

The problem is how we associate objects in rpmbuild/koji. You can look at RPM 
building as transitioning between 3 types of objects:

1) We begin with a pile of SOURCES for a package.
2) We compile those sources into a collection of ARTIFACTS
3) We cpio, compress, and tag those artifacts into one or more PACKAGES 
(typically one. More if we have sub-packages).

The problem here is that the ARTIFACTS phase isn't really represented. We 
relate packages to sources and that's that. If we tracked the results of the 
build process independently of the RPM itself, we could track much more 
complicated relationships between packages (for example, the kernel borrowing 
bits of the output from the last glibc build to make its initrd).

I believe there are package managers that do this. RPM isn't well suited to it 
though. It would take a lot of muscle.

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Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic-version instead of initrd-version (#519185)

2009-09-03 Thread Roland McGrath
 If we tracked the results of the build process independently of the RPM
 itself, we could track much more complicated relationships between
 packages (for example, the kernel borrowing bits of the output from the
 last glibc build to make its initrd).

Koji's database has that information, sort of.  It can tell you exactly
which other packages were installed in the buildroot, so that is the
superset of what-all bits could have been rolled into the output.

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Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic-version instead of initrd-version (#519185)

2009-09-03 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 09/03/2009 04:59 PM, Roland McGrath wrote:
 Koji's database has that information, sort of.  It can tell you exactly
 which other packages were installed in the buildroot, so that is the
 superset of what-all bits could have been rolled into the output.

Yes, but I do not think we are in good faith satisfying the requirement
to distribute the source for those binaries by pointing back to koji
pages and possibly forcing the user to dig into the lookaside cache.

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Re: rpm/mock: can't upbuild FC10 targets on FC9 host

2009-09-03 Thread Paul Howarth
On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 10:53:54 -0600
Philip Prindeville philipp_s...@redfish-solutions.com wrote:

 Paul Howarth wrote:
  On 03/09/09 17:07, Philip Prindeville wrote:

  Paul Howarth wrote:
  
  On 02/09/09 22:52, Philip Prindeville wrote:
 

  Seems to be an rpm versioning issue:
 
  [r...@builder SRPMS]# mock -r fedora-10-x86_64 --rebuild
  perl-Net-Patricia-1.15_01-1.fc9.src.rpm INFO: mock.py version
  0.9.14 starting... State Changed: init plugins
  State Changed: start
  INFO: Start(perl-Net-Patricia-1.15_01-1.fc9.src.rpm)
  Config(fedora-10-x86_64) State Changed: lock buildroot
  State Changed: clean
  State Changed: init
  State Changed: lock buildroot
  Mock Version: 0.9.14
  INFO: Mock Version: 0.9.14
  INFO: enabled root cache
  State Changed: unpacking root cache
  INFO: enabled yum cache
  State Changed: cleaning yum metadata
  INFO: enabled ccache
  State Changed: running yum
  State Changed: setup
  ERROR: Exception(perl-Net-Patricia-1.15_01-1.fc9.src.rpm)
  Config(fedora-10-x86_64) 0 minutes 15 seconds INFO: Results
  and/or logs in: /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/result ERROR:
  Command failed: # /usr/bin/yum
  --installroot /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/root/  resolvedep
  ccache  'perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker)' rpmdb: Program version 4.3
  doesn't match environment version error: db4 error(-30974) from
  dbenv-open: DB_VERSION_MISMATCH: Database environment version
  mismatch error: cannot open Packages index using db3 -  (-30974)
  error: cannot open Packages database
  in /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/root/var/lib/rpm Traceback
  (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/yum, line 29,
  inmodule yummain.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True) File
  /usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py, line 229, in user_main errcode
  = main(args) File /usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py, line 84, in
  main base.getOptionsConfig(args) File
  /usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py, line 184, in getOptionsConfig
  enabled_plugins=self.optparser._splitArg(opts.enableplugins))
  File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py, line
  192, in _getConfig self._conf =
  config.readMainConfig(startupconf) File
  /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/config.py, line 774, in
  readMainConfig yumvars['releasever'] =
  _getsysver(startupconf.installroot, startupconf.distroverpkg)
  File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/config.py, line 844,
  in _getsysver idx = ts.dbMatch('provides', distroverpkg)
  TypeError: rpmdb open failed
 
  [r...@builder SRPMS]#
 
 
 
  The host was originally an FC8 host, that was yum updated to
  FC9. I use it to build FC9 and FC10 packages via Mock.
 
  Unfortunately, it looks like it doesn't want to use the old RPM
  database from the previous FC8 install.
 
  How do I clobber all of this to that the database gets written
  afresh?
 
  Apparently, mock -r fedora-10-x86_64 --clean isn't adequate.
  Perhaps mock --nuke would be useful here following an version
  update to zap stale state?
 
  Or should I just uninstall and reinstall mock?
 
  
  I'd try this first:
 
  # rm -rf /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/root
 
  Paul.
 
 

  No joy:
 
  [r...@builder SRPMS]# rm -rf /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/root
  [r...@builder SRPMS]# mock -r fedora-10-x86_64 --init --rebuild
  perl-Net-Patricia-1.15_01-1.fc9.src.rpm INFO: mock.py version
  0.9.14 starting... State Changed: init plugins
  State Changed: start
  INFO: Start(perl-Net-Patricia-1.15_01-1.fc9.src.rpm)
  Config(fedora-10-x86_64) State Changed: lock buildroot
  State Changed: clean
  State Changed: init
  State Changed: lock buildroot
  Mock Version: 0.9.14
  INFO: Mock Version: 0.9.14
  INFO: enabled root cache
  State Changed: unpacking root cache
  INFO: enabled yum cache
  State Changed: cleaning yum metadata
  INFO: enabled ccache
  State Changed: running yum
  State Changed: setup
  ERROR: Exception(perl-Net-Patricia-1.15_01-1.fc9.src.rpm)
  Config(fedora-10-x86_64) 0 minutes 30 seconds INFO: Results and/or
  logs in: /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/result ERROR: Command
  failed: # /usr/bin/yum
  --installroot /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/root/  resolvedep
  ccache  'perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker)' rpmdb: Program version 4.3
  doesn't match environment version error: db4 error(-30974) from
  dbenv-open: DB_VERSION_MISMATCH: Database environment version
  mismatch error: cannot open Packages index using db3 -  (-30974)
  error: cannot open Packages database
  in /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/root/var/lib/rpm Traceback (most
  recent call last): File /usr/bin/yum, line 29, inmodule
  yummain.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True) File
  /usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py, line 229, in user_main errcode =
  main(args) File /usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py, line 84, in main
  base.getOptionsConfig(args) File /usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py, line
  184, in getOptionsConfig
  enabled_plugins=self.optparser._splitArg(opts.enableplugins)) File
  /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py, line 192, in
  _getConfig self._conf = 

Licensing policy for apps developed by Fedora Infrastructure now in effect

2009-09-03 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
Over the past few months, Fedora Infrastructure has been discussing
having a consistent set of licenses for applications and scripts we
create for Fedora.  The goals of doing this were to

* Be able to share code among the various programs that we write.
* Not have our libraries force a specific license on the apps that we write.
* Not have conflicting licenses between our apps and our libraries
* Have a clear understanding of the steps we must take whenever we want
to move code from an application under one license to a library under a
different one.
* Protect the code we write from being taken proprietary (note, this is
not the same for every author. Mirrormanager, for instance, is under the
MIT/X11 License).
* Be able to stay compliant with licenses within our production,
staging, and publictest environments

At last week's meeting we made a decision about which licenses would
best fit our needs.  The results are recorded here:
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Licensing

The basics are:
* license code that is meant to be used as a library as LGPLv2+.
* license code that's meant to be used as an application as GPLv2+.
* If we want to write something and use another license we should
discuss it to figure out how it's going to impact us and whether there's
a better way to achieve our goals first.

Most of our apps are currently under GPLv2(only) so we're going to be
working to change the licensing on those apps over time to reflect GPLv2
or later.  If you find something that we've written that's not under
GPLv2+ (or LGPLv2+) that you want to use, please let us know so we can
either get to work on making the license match the guidelines or let you
know why it's not being changed.

The one other thing for Infrastructure developers and System Admins to
note in the Policy is the section on handling AGPLv3 applications.
During the discussions about whether to use AGPLv3+ for our web
applications we found and delimited many issues that need to be
addressed when deploying AGPLv3+ licensed code.  The aGPL portion of the
policy is our first attempt at keeping us compliant with any code that
is under this license.  Highlights are:

* Apps deployed to production under AGPL must be deployed from RPMs.
Any hotfixes to those apps must have the patch in a ticket in trac on
http://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure with the keyword HOTFIX.
* Any AGPL app deployed in infrastructure must have links in the footer
to the fedora-infrastructure SRPM repo and the trac query that pulls up
our hotfixes so that people can find the exact source that we're running
at any given time.
* Staging must follow the same rules regarding SRPM and hotfixes.  Once
again, failing to link to the exact source for what we have running
would put us out of compliance.
* No AGPL apps can be hosted on publictest boxes at this time as
publictest boxes are intended for development and the high rate of
change in development is not conducive for constantly updating RPMS or
patches in trac.  If there's demand for publictest hosting of AGPL apps
we'll need to design some method of restricting who can access the
applications running there to satisfy the legal requirements.

-Toshio



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Re: rpm/mock: can't upbuild FC10 targets on FC9 host

2009-09-03 Thread Philip Prindeville
Philip Prindeville wrote:
 Panu Matilainen wrote:
   
 On Thu, 3 Sep 2009, Philip Prindeville wrote:
   
 
 No joy:

 [r...@builder SRPMS]# rm -rf /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/root
 [r...@builder SRPMS]# mock -r fedora-10-x86_64 --init --rebuild 
 perl-Net-Patricia-1.15_01-1.fc9.src.rpm
 
   
 Don't run mock as root. That'll avoid the incompatible db environment 
 from getting created. Also some older versions of mock left the db 
 environment in the root-cache tarball which is sure to cause problems 
 sooner or later (this has been fixed since then but don't remember which 
 version)

  - Panu -

   
 

 So... run it as whom?

 [phil...@builder SRPMS]$ mock -r fedora-10-x86_64 --init --rebuild 
 perl-Net-Patricia-1.15_01-1.fc9.src.rpm 

 ERROR: [Errno 1] Operation not permitted

 ERROR: The most common cause for this error is trying to run /usr/sbin/mock 
 as an unprivileged user.
 ERROR: Check your path to make sure that /usr/bin/ is listed before 
 /usr/sbin, or manually run /usr/bin/mock to see if that fixes this problem.

 [phil...@builder SRPMS]$ 

   

Ok, changing my path:

[phil...@builder SRPMS]$ mock -r fedora-10-x86_64 --init --unpriv --rebuild 
perl-Net-Patricia-1.15_01-1.fc9.src.rpm
You are attempting to run mock which requires administrative
privileges, but more information is needed in order to do so.
Authenticating as root
Password: 
INFO: mock.py version 0.9.14 starting...
State Changed: init plugins
State Changed: start
INFO: Start(perl-Net-Patricia-1.15_01-1.fc9.src.rpm)  Config(fedora-10-x86_64)
State Changed: lock buildroot
State Changed: clean
State Changed: init
ERROR: Could not create dir /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/result. Error: 
[Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/result'
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/mock/util.py, line 61, in 
mkdirIfAbsent
os.makedirs(dirName)
  File /usr/lib64/python2.5/os.py, line 172, in makedirs
mkdir(name, mode)
OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/result'
ERROR: Exception(perl-Net-Patricia-1.15_01-1.fc9.src.rpm) 
Config(fedora-10-x86_64) 0 minutes 0 seconds
INFO: Results and/or logs in: /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/result
ERROR: Could not create dir /var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/result. Error: 
[Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/lib/mock/fedora-10-x86_64/result'
[phil...@builder SRPMS]$ 


and without --unpriv is not much different.



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Re: rpm/mock: can't upbuild FC10 targets on FC9 host

2009-09-03 Thread Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)
 So... run it as whom?

As your normal user. Just add it to the mock group:
# usermod -G mock your user


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Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic-version instead of initrd-version (#519185)

2009-09-03 Thread Casey Dahlin

On 09/03/2009 05:08 PM, Tom spot Callaway wrote:

On 09/03/2009 04:59 PM, Roland McGrath wrote:

Koji's database has that information, sort of.  It can tell you exactly
which other packages were installed in the buildroot, so that is the
superset of what-all bits could have been rolled into the output.


Yes, but I do not think we are in good faith satisfying the requirement
to distribute the source for those binaries by pointing back to koji
pages and possibly forcing the user to dig into the lookaside cache.

~spot



Isn't it more that we know how to do it? If someone came to the mailing 
list and said I formally demand, as per GPLvX, that you give me the 
source for $Foo we can quickly comply. We don't want to handle a large 
number of requests in that way, but we can do it for the auditors.


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Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic-version instead of initrd-version (#519185)

2009-09-03 Thread Roland McGrath
  Yes, but I do not think we are in good faith satisfying the requirement
  to distribute the source for those binaries by pointing back to koji
  pages and possibly forcing the user to dig into the lookaside cache.

The requirement is to provide a written offer to give someone the source
when they ask.  

 Isn't it more that we know how to do it? If someone came to the mailing 
 list and said I formally demand, as per GPLvX, that you give me the 
 source for $Foo we can quickly comply. We don't want to handle a large 
 number of requests in that way, but we can do it for the auditors.

Right.  We could possibly attempt to automate something to generate an
easy-to-download list of possibly-related sources.  That could even be
self-service with a web thingy you can just hand a Fedora rpm N-V-R.  But
at any rate, we can automate it enough to make sure that we are not put out
by manual work involved in complying with legitimate requests to produce
the sources.


Thanks,
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Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic-version instead of initrd-version (#519185)

2009-09-03 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 09/03/2009 05:46 PM, Roland McGrath wrote:
 The requirement is to provide a written offer to give someone the source
 when they ask. 

Well, that's true for GPL. Can someone generate a list of the binaries
used in the generic initrd and the packages that they came from?

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Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic-version instead of initrd-version (#519185)

2009-09-03 Thread Jesse Keating
On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 14:46 -0700, Roland McGrath wrote:
   Yes, but I do not think we are in good faith satisfying the requirement
   to distribute the source for those binaries by pointing back to koji
   pages and possibly forcing the user to dig into the lookaside cache.
 
 The requirement is to provide a written offer to give someone the source
 when they ask.  
 

We don't distribute under that clause of the GPL, because the 3 year
timeline on it is entirely too vague and we don't want to fall into that
trap.  We distribute under the clause that says if we offer binaries, we
have to offer source with them.  This gives us the ability to remove
binary and source packages at will, because when we stop offering the
binary, we can stop offering the source.  This is why the kernel rpm
having binaries with no matching source in the kernel srpm is a problem
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Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic-version instead of initrd-version (#519185)

2009-09-03 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 09/03/2009 06:14 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
 We don't distribute under that clause of the GPL, because the 3 year
 timeline on it is entirely too vague and we don't want to fall into that
 trap.

Ugh. I had conveniently forgotten about that, thanks for the reminder.

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Re: Minitube - youtube for your desktop, still a little early in development

2009-09-03 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Adam Millermaxamill...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey all,
    I packaged up this app I stumbled upon called minitube
 (http://flavio.tordini.org/minitube) but it seems a bit unstable and I
 don't really want to toss it up to a package review until its stable
 enough to be shipped but I wanted to mention it to see if anyone might
 find a use for it, would help testing and submitting bugs upstream,
 etc.
[snip]

What would be the point of packaging something which can not operate
without codecs that fedora can not and should not ship?

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Re: Minitube - youtube for your desktop, still a little early in development

2009-09-03 Thread Peter Gordon
On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 20:41 -0400, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
 What would be the point of packaging something which can not operate
 without codecs that fedora can not and should not ship?

I don't think that's a valid point here. For one, Fedora already has the
Totem YouTube plugin packaged, which functions similarly...
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Re: Minitube - youtube for your desktop, still a little early in development

2009-09-03 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Gregory Maxwellgmaxw...@gmail.com wrote:
 What would be the point of packaging something which can not operate
 without codecs that fedora can not and should not ship?

That was the rationale for vagalume ending up in rpmfusion-free: the
code itself is fully free, but it's not usable without some
patent-encumbered codecs.

By that rationale, though, shouldn't totem-youtube end up in rpmfusion-free too?

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Re: rpm/mock: can't upbuild FC10 targets on FC9 host

2009-09-03 Thread Iain Arnell
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:37 PM, Mathieu Bridon
(bochecha)boche...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
 # usermod -G mock your user

# usermod -a -G mock your user

would generally be better (won't blitz your existing group memberships)


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Re: Packaging Request: Pure Data

2009-09-03 Thread Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
On Mon, 2009-08-31 at 18:33 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Mani Aa.mani@gmail.com wrote:
  http://puredata.info/
 
  is not in the package database.
 
  From the license POV, there are no problems.
 
 I think this is the bug your after. A review is in progress but
 there's a few build issues.
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=488563

Nope, that's not pd (pure data), a graphical programming language for
music and midi applications. That bug is about pure, a term-rewriting
functional programming language. 

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Re: Packaging Request: Pure Data

2009-09-03 Thread Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
On Mon, 2009-08-31 at 18:56 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Mani A wrote:
  http://puredata.info/
 
  is not in the package database.
 
  From the license POV, there are no problems.
 
 
  Best
 
  A. Mani
 
 
 Hi,
 Fernando at planetccrma was working on packaging a recent version of
 puredata. I don't know the current status. 

It is done and released in the testing repository (will move to the
regular repository soon). 

 There should be an older
 version sitting in their repos. Transferring puredata to official
 Fedora repos is tremendous amount of work. Last time I checked, the
 SPEC file was a couple thousands of lines long and it was only for
 32bit.

What I'm packaging is not the base pd but pd-extended[1], which includes
the basic pd and many many extensions which make for a much more usable
system. And I separately package several additional pd extensions (in
particular flext) that are quite important but not part of pd-extended
(most were, but were spun off, it is a long long story leading to
package name changes, obsoletes and provides, evil epochs, etc, etc [*])

See:
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetccrma/testing/10/SRPMS/pd-extended-0.41.4-1.fc10.ccrma.src.rpm
(and others in the same directory, ommit /testing/ if not found there as
it will move shortly)

And:
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetccrma/testing/10/i386/repoview/pd-extended.html

(also available for fc11)

The current package does away with my original separation of the many
external collections into separate subpackages. Now you get all of them
at once and as a result the spec file is much much simpler (but you
don't get a subpackage choice at install time). It should not be hard to
transfer to Fedora, or at least not as hard as before. 

Re: 32 bit: current pd-extended mostly works on 64 bit archs but the
port is not complete. It is something scheduled for the next main
release (I was close to finish building it but gave up, some patches
made into the current srpm). I think (but I'm not 100% sure) that the
base pd (not pd-extended) is now working on 64 bit archs but is both
newer (higher version number) and less complete (a lot less stuff in
there). 

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[1]: http://puredata.info/Members/hans/pd-extended-0-41-4-released

[*] I have been packaging pd since at least 2001 (probably 2000 for
internal releases), for RedHat and then Fedora, it was one of the first
packages in the Planet CCRMA repositories. 


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[Bug 507637] Missing fontset info

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Jerry James loganje...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Version|11  |rawhide




--- Comment #17 from Jerry James loganje...@gmail.com  2009-09-03 10:53:35 
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Do you need help applying the changes to CVS?  I'm happy to do that if you'll
grant permission.

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[Issue 45128] Silent Failing is Bad Practice (Font fallback and Glyph Fallback)

2009-09-03 Thread meywer
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--- Additional comments from mey...@openoffice.org Thu Sep  3 15:32:07 
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Have a look at the votes for 23402 (closed as a duplicate of this issue). (Why
on this issue there is no „vote for this issue“ link?)

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[Bug 518887] FontForge segfaults while generating TrueType version of Kurier-Regular.otf

2009-09-03 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #7 from Kevin Fenzi ke...@tummy.com  2009-09-03 12:11:07 EDT ---
Just an update here. I posted to the upstream devel list and it seems this bug
is hopefully fixed in cvs: 

I think this one really depends on converting OpenType advanced
typographic features to Apple ones. At least that's where the crash
occurs.
This is now fixed in cvs.

So, as soon as there is another release I can whip up a package for you to test
with, or if you are brave and willing to build from cvs to confirm it's fixed
that would be great too.

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[Bug 466404] Segmentation fault.

2009-09-03 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #14 from Kevin Fenzi ke...@tummy.com  2009-09-03 12:14:46 EDT ---
It doesn't look like this is going to be fixable... 

I talked with upstream and the problem here is that if they just exit when they
see that they can't get a font, that would hit cases where people could save
their work before it crashes. 

From upstream: 

If you think you can fix it, please do.
As you point out it is not really my bug, and as I have been unable to
fix it in 10 years I have given up.

So, I guess the answer here is to make sure our font cache information is
accurate? 
Can I go ahead and close this now? Or would someone here like to take a stab at
patching it? :)

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[Bug 518887] FontForge segfaults while generating TrueType version of Kurier-Regular.otf

2009-09-03 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #8 from zhoujingmil...@gmail.com  2009-09-03 15:54:05 EDT ---
Thanks, Kevin, for the package, but I just tested the cvs version with
Version: 01:15 GMT 3-Sep-2009(20090903) and Library Version: 02:27 GMT
1-Sep-2009 and the TrueType font is generated successfully. So it is confirmed
that the issue is fixed in cvs. (So this bug will be closed?)

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[Bug 518887] FontForge segfaults while generating TrueType version of Kurier-Regular.otf

2009-09-03 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #9 from Kevin Fenzi ke...@tummy.com  2009-09-03 16:02:46 EDT ---
Up to you. We can close it out now, or wait until the next release and I will
close it when that release lands in Fedora. 

Which would you prefer?

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[Bug 518887] FontForge segfaults while generating TrueType version of Kurier-Regular.otf

2009-09-03 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #10 from zhoujingmil...@gmail.com  2009-09-03 18:34:45 EDT ---
Since it is fixed already and people encountering similar problem will probably
checking out later releases or cvs builds of fontforge, given that the
information is still accessible to them, I would prefer to close it so that we
get «less» bugs in total. So I will close it now.

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rpms/saab-fonts/devel saab-fonts-fontconfig.conf, NONE, 1.1 saab-fonts.spec, 1.2, 1.3

2009-09-03 Thread aalam
Author: aalam

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/saab-fonts/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv12394

Modified Files:
saab-fonts.spec 
Added Files:
saab-fonts-fontconfig.conf 
Log Message:
Updating spec file and add conf file


--- NEW FILE saab-fonts-fontconfig.conf ---
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM ../fonts.dtd
fontconfig
  alias
familysans-serif/family
prefer
  familySaab/family
/prefer
  /alias
  alias
familySaab/family
default
  familyserif/family
/default
  /alias
/fontconfig  



Index: saab-fonts.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/saab-fonts/devel/saab-fonts.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.2
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -u -p -r1.2 -r1.3
--- saab-fonts.spec 27 Jul 2009 03:44:05 -  1.2
+++ saab-fonts.spec 4 Sep 2009 04:18:28 -   1.3
@@ -1,14 +1,16 @@
 %global fontname saab
+%global fontconf 66-%{fontname}.conf
 
 Name:%{fontname}-fonts
 Version: 0.91
-Release: 2%{?dist}
+Release: 3%{?dist}
 Summary: Free Punjabi Unicode OpenType Font
 
 Group:   User Interface/X
 License: GPLv2+ with exceptions
 URL: http://guca.sourceforge.net/typography/fonts/saab/
 Source0: http://downloads.sf.net/guca/saab.0.91.zip
+Source1:   %{name}-fontconfig.conf
 BuildArch:   noarch
 BuildRoot:   %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n)
 BuildRequires: fontpackages-devel
@@ -30,13 +32,24 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 install -m 0755 -d $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_fontdir}
 install -m 0644 -p Saab.otf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_fontdir}
 
+install -m 0755 -d %{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_templatedir} \
+   %{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_confdir}
+
+install -m 0644 -p %{SOURCE1} \
+%{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_templatedir}/%{fontconf}
+ln -s %{_fontconfig_templatedir}/%{fontconf} \
+  %{buildroot}%{_fontconfig_confdir}/%{fontconf}
+
 %clean
 rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 
-%_font_pkg Saab.otf
+%_font_pkg Saab.otf %{fontconf}
 %doc
 
 %changelog
+* Tue Sep 04 2009 A S Alam aa...@redhat.com - 0.91-3
+- Add fontconfig conf file
+
 * Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 0.91-2
 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
 

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rpms/saab-fonts/devel saab-fonts.spec,1.3,1.4

2009-09-03 Thread aalam
Author: aalam

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/saab-fonts/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv23340

Modified Files:
saab-fonts.spec 
Log Message:
Change font pirority from 66 -67


Index: saab-fonts.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/saab-fonts/devel/saab-fonts.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.3
retrieving revision 1.4
diff -u -p -r1.3 -r1.4
--- saab-fonts.spec 4 Sep 2009 04:18:28 -   1.3
+++ saab-fonts.spec 4 Sep 2009 04:49:31 -   1.4
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 %global fontname saab
-%global fontconf 66-%{fontname}.conf
+%global fontconf 67-%{fontname}.conf
 
 Name:%{fontname}-fonts
 Version: 0.91
@@ -43,7 +43,7 @@ ln -s %{_fontconfig_templatedir}/%{fontc
 %clean
 rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 
-%_font_pkg Saab.otf %{fontconf}
+%_font_pkg Saab.otf -f %{fontconf}
 %doc
 
 %changelog

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[Bug 503662] Review Request: saab-fonts - OTF Saab Punjabi Font

2009-09-03 Thread bugzilla
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 Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED
 Resolution||RAWHIDE




--- Comment #14 from A S Alam aa...@redhat.com  2009-09-04 00:56:31 EDT ---
Build for Rawhide. Closing Bug

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Licensing policy for apps developed by Fedora Infrastructure now in effect

2009-09-03 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
Over the past few months, Fedora Infrastructure has been discussing
having a consistent set of licenses for applications and scripts we
create for Fedora.  The goals of doing this were to

* Be able to share code among the various programs that we write.
* Not have our libraries force a specific license on the apps that we write.
* Not have conflicting licenses between our apps and our libraries
* Have a clear understanding of the steps we must take whenever we want
to move code from an application under one license to a library under a
different one.
* Protect the code we write from being taken proprietary (note, this is
not the same for every author. Mirrormanager, for instance, is under the
MIT/X11 License).
* Be able to stay compliant with licenses within our production,
staging, and publictest environments

At last week's meeting we made a decision about which licenses would
best fit our needs.  The results are recorded here:
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Licensing

The basics are:
* license code that is meant to be used as a library as LGPLv2+.
* license code that's meant to be used as an application as GPLv2+.
* If we want to write something and use another license we should
discuss it to figure out how it's going to impact us and whether there's
a better way to achieve our goals first.

Most of our apps are currently under GPLv2(only) so we're going to be
working to change the licensing on those apps over time to reflect GPLv2
or later.  If you find something that we've written that's not under
GPLv2+ (or LGPLv2+) that you want to use, please let us know so we can
either get to work on making the license match the guidelines or let you
know why it's not being changed.

The one other thing for Infrastructure developers and System Admins to
note in the Policy is the section on handling AGPLv3 applications.
During the discussions about whether to use AGPLv3+ for our web
applications we found and delimited many issues that need to be
addressed when deploying AGPLv3+ licensed code.  The aGPL portion of the
policy is our first attempt at keeping us compliant with any code that
is under this license.  Highlights are:

* Apps deployed to production under AGPL must be deployed from RPMs.
Any hotfixes to those apps must have the patch in a ticket in trac on
http://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure with the keyword HOTFIX.
* Any AGPL app deployed in infrastructure must have links in the footer
to the fedora-infrastructure SRPM repo and the trac query that pulls up
our hotfixes so that people can find the exact source that we're running
at any given time.
* Staging must follow the same rules regarding SRPM and hotfixes.  Once
again, failing to link to the exact source for what we have running
would put us out of compliance.
* No AGPL apps can be hosted on publictest boxes at this time as
publictest boxes are intended for development and the high rate of
change in development is not conducive for constantly updating RPMS or
patches in trac.  If there's demand for publictest hosting of AGPL apps
we'll need to design some method of restricting who can access the
applications running there to satisfy the legal requirements.

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Re: CONFIG_CC_OPTIMIZE_FOR_SIZE?

2009-09-03 Thread Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
Em Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 11:48:42AM -0400, Aristeu Rozanski escreveu:
 Hi,
 does anyone know why CONFIG_CC_OPTIMIZE_FOR_SIZE is enabled in fedora kernel? 
 I
 thought that option was useful for embedded systems only.

IIRC because it makes the kernel faster :-)

- Arnaldo

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Re: CONFIG_CC_OPTIMIZE_FOR_SIZE?

2009-09-03 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 01:01:55PM -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
  Em Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 11:48:42AM -0400, Aristeu Rozanski escreveu:
   Hi,
   does anyone know why CONFIG_CC_OPTIMIZE_FOR_SIZE is enabled in fedora 
   kernel? I
   thought that option was useful for embedded systems only.
  
  IIRC because it makes the kernel faster :-)

The reduced icache pressure makes it a win.
As a bonus some non-performance-sensitive code (like the acpi interpretor)
gets a _lot_ smaller on-disk.

Dave

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Fedora 11 boot faisl on md with two HBAs

2009-09-03 Thread S Murthy Kambhampaty
With Fedora 11 on IBM x3650 M2 (x86_64), I am having problems booting after 
adding a second, add-in, SAS controller with 12 SAS disks in an external 
enclosure.  Without the add-in SAS controller, the system boots fine and 
provides file sharing over samba, etc.

The main problem with this machine is that it has an EFI BIOS which appears to 
bind the external/add-on SAS HBA before the internal one on which the system 
drives are hosted (they are both LSI SAS 3801e HBAs - the internal one has an 
IBM part number, while the external one is LSI).  Changing the BIOS order in 
the option ROMs and disabling boot services on the external/add-on HBA does not 
seem to affect the adapter binding order, and the EFI BIOS does not provide any 
mechanism for controlling this.  Which brings us to the bootup issues.

Note that after booting into rescue mode from the installer image mdadm works 
as expected, with raid arrays detected and started without any problems on the 
disks located on both controllers.  The md configuration is :

/boot is on /dev/md0 with devices  /dev/sd[mn]3, raid1
/root is on /dev/md1 with devices /dev/sd[op]2, raid1
/usr, /var and swap are on an LVM vg on /dev/md2 with devices /dev/sd[m-p]2, 
raid10
/boot/efi is on /dev/md64 with devices /dev/sd[mn]2, raid1

A separate vg for the data volume is on /dev/md127 with devices /dev/sd[a-l], 
raid6 (whole disks)

/dev/sd[m-p] are hosted on the internal HBA, and appear as /dev/sd[a-d] when 
the add-in HBA is disabled.  /dev/sd[a-l] hang of the add-in HBA.  Note that in 
rescue mode, the disks start at /dev/sdc, as I'm booting from a virtual 
console, and /dev/sda and /dev/sdb are assigned to virtual USB disks.

The problem seems to be that during bootup the raid arrays are autodetected 
rather than using mdadm.  If the raid456 module is not included in the initrd 
image, booting fails with raid6 personality not detected, when the boot process 
tries to start /dev/md1 incrementally with /dev/sda as its first member.  (This 
appears not to reference /etc/mdadm.conf in the initrd at all.)

If the raid456 module is included in the initrd image (using --with=raid456), 
booting fails with /dev/sda added incrementally to /dev/md1 and /dev/sdb added 
incrementally to /dev/md2; it appears autodetect fails because the raid device 
was built from rescue mode, so the components are listed with different letters 
in the superblock.

If I put a line in /etc/mdadm.conf in the initird image, to only scan 
partitioned disks (DEVICE /dev/sd*[1234]), boot hangs after loading the raid 
modules. (Potentially on the call to mkblkdevs after scsi_wait_scan is 
rmmod-ed.)

This seems to suggest that the md devices are being started by kernel raid 
autodetection rather than mdadm.  Simply switching to mdamd would likely solve 
the problem, given it works fine in rescue mode.  Alternative suggestions are 
welcome, of course.  I will try partitioning the 12 disks, with ext2 partitions 
rather than raid-auto partitions, to see if this gets me past this issue.  
However, it would be nice to be able to create the raid devices on whole disks, 
and avoid the extra step.

Thanks for the help,
   Murthy



  

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Re: X wont start for install on an hp pavilion HDX-16 1370us

2009-09-03 Thread Kam Leo
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Kam Leokam@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Ed Greshkoed.gres...@greshko.com wrote:
 Kevin Kempter wrote:
 Hi all;

 My son bought an hp Pavilion (HDX-16 1370us) laptop, with a 16 screen.

 Upon trying to start the anaconda installer Fedora 10 says 'X failed to 
 start
 reverting back to text mode


 Thoughts? anyone have any hp experience similar they can share (hopefully 
 with
 solutions)?

 Thanks in advance


 Well  I've had this problem beforebut it wasn't on HP and it
 wasn't recent enough for me to recall anything other than I completed
 the install in text mode and then found/fixed the issue later.
 Basicallylogging in in text mode, give a startx, and looking in
 /var/log/Xorg.0.log to find out what went wrong and fixing it

 Anaconda did not find a suitable driver. It's happened before on other
 systems. Do as Ed recommends and complete the text mode installation.
 Before you go slogging through the log files do the following:

 yum upgrade
 yum install system-config-display
 system-config-display --reconfig


It's late and I'm not thinking as clearly as I should be. The best
reference is the F11 Installation Guide:
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f11/en-US/html-single/#d0e6884

Go to 8.2.1. Problems with Booting into the Graphical Installation

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Re: X wont start for install on an hp pavilion HDX-16 1370us

2009-09-03 Thread Ed Greshko
Kam Leo wrote:

 Anaconda did not find a suitable driver. It's happened before on other
 systems. Do as Ed recommends and complete the text mode installation.
 Before you go slogging through the log files do the following:

 yum upgrade
 yum install system-config-display
 system-config-display --reconfig

 

 It's late and I'm not thinking as clearly as I should be. The best
 reference is the F11 Installation Guide:
 http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f11/en-US/html-single/#d0e6884

 Go to 8.2.1. Problems with Booting into the Graphical Installation

   
At least someone reads the documentation  :-)

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Re: So far I am not impressed with F11

2009-09-03 Thread s

On 09/02/2009 01:38 PM, Randall J. Berry wrote:
So far F11 has been nothing short of a pain for me. I have had more 
issues with this one release than I have for all of the preceding 
releases combined.



Next comes the issues with streaming audio or video. Since the update 
of Firefox 3.1 to 3.1.1 all streaming media (youtube and the like) 
played through the browser crashes at random points within the stream 
usually locking up the browser for a period of time and the 
audio/video does not return to normal. I tried to uninstall Firefox 
3.1.1 and reinstall Firefox 3.1 but that did not work Firefox simply 
ceased to work.





Streaming video was crashing for me too. After trying the different 
plugins (Adobe flash, swfdec, xine-plugin) rolling back the 
nspluginwrapper to version 1.3.0-5 fixed the problem.


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Fedora 11 boot fails on md with two HBAs

2009-09-03 Thread S Murthy Kambhampaty
[Fixed typo in header line, etc.; added info at end.]


With Fedora 11 on IBM x3650 M2 (x86_64), I am having problems booting after 
adding a second, add-in, SAS controller with 12 SAS disks in an external 
enclosure.  Without the add-in SAS controller, the system boots fine and 
provides file sharing over samba, etc.

The main problem with this machine is that it has an EFI BIOS which appears to 
bind the external/add-on SAS HBA before the internal one on which the system 
drives are hosted (they are both LSI SAS 3801e HBAs - the internal one has an 
IBM part number, while the external one is LSI).  Changing the BIOS order in 
the option ROMs and disabling boot services on the external/add-on HBA does not 
seem to affect the adapter binding order, and the EFI BIOS does not provide any 
mechanism for controlling this.  Which brings us to the bootup issues.

Note that after booting into rescue mode from the installer image mdadm works 
as expected, with raid arrays detected and started without any problems on the 
disks located on both controllers.  The md configuration is :

/boot is on /dev/md0 with devices  /dev/sd[mn]3, raid1
/root is on /dev/md1 with devices /dev/sd[op]1, raid1
/usr, /var and swap are on an LVM vg on /dev/md2 with devices /dev/sd[m-p]2, 
raid10
/boot/efi is on /dev/md64 with devices /dev/sd[mn]2, raid1

A separate vg for the data volume is on /dev/md127 with devices /dev/sd[a-l], 
raid6 (whole disks)

/dev/sd[m-p] are hosted on the internal HBA, and appear as /dev/sd[a-d] when 
the add-in HBA is disabled.  /dev/sd[a-l] hang of the add-in HBA.  Note that in 
rescue mode, the disks start at /dev/sdc, as I'm booting from a virtual 
console, and /dev/sda and /dev/sdb are assigned to virtual USB disks.

The problem seems to be that during bootup the raid arrays are autodetected 
rather than using mdadm.  If the raid456 module is not included in the initrd 
image, booting fails with raid6 personality not detected, when the boot process 
tries to start /dev/md1 incrementally with /dev/sda as its first member.  (This 
appears not to reference /etc/mdadm.conf in the initrd at all.)

If the raid456 module is included in the initrd image (using --with=raid456), 
booting fails with /dev/sda added incrementally to /dev/md1 and /dev/sdb added 
incrementally to /dev/md2; it appears autodetect fails because the raid device 
was built from rescue mode, so the components are listed with different letters 
in the superblock.

If I put a line in /etc/mdadm.conf in the initird image, to only scan 
partitioned disks (DEVICE /dev/sd*[1234]), boot hangs after loading the raid 
modules. (Potentially on the call to mkblkdevs after scsi_wait_scan is 
rmmod-ed.)

Partitioning /dev/sd[a-l] and setting the partition type to other than 'raid' 
does not seem to make any difference, during bootup the kernel still tries to 
assemble the root raid device (/dev/md1) from /dev/sda (though it is on 
/dev/md[op]1.

This seems to suggest that the md devices are being started by kernel raid 
autodetection rather than mdadm.  Simply switching to mdamd would likely solve 
the problem, given it works fine in rescue mode.  Alternative suggestions are 
welcome, of course.

Thanks for the help,
   Murthy


  

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Re: problems posting

2009-09-03 Thread Roger

On 09/03/2009 02:25 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
Over the last 3 months, I noticed that I have posted and not gotten 
any responses. Fair enough, maybe the posts aren't worth it.


But I just did a check of the archives and I don't see any of my 
posts. Don't know if I am incorrectly posting or, in worse case, 
blacklisted. So, I am sending out a test with the hopes that someone 
at least tells me that it was seen.


I posted this on 27jul09 and didn't hear anything, so I dug in a bit 
deeper with my email provider and think I have it sorted out. So, I am 
cut-and-pasting (with the addition of this paragraph) and trying again.


If no answer, then at least I have something to go back to the 
fedora-lists and/or my email provider to go huh?


Thanks in advance,
Paul


Your post came thru, I read it
I've had no luck contributing to the above address either.
Roger

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Fedora11: Plans for updated mesa/xorg packages ?

2009-09-03 Thread Terry Barnaby

Does anyone know if there is a plan to release updated
xorg/mesa packages for F11 any time soon ?
The F11 ones are very broken, at least for ATI radeon based systems.
I have been using code from freedesktops git sources
(drm,mesa,xf86-video-ati) and this is now getting there, at least
blender works !
However, the changes needed to the stock F11 are now getting larger
(xserver update) and it would be good to have an RPM based system again !

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Re: So far I am not impressed with F11

2009-09-03 Thread Suvayu Ali

On Thursday 03 September 2009 12:41 AM, s wrote:

On 09/02/2009 01:38 PM, Randall J. Berry wrote:

So far F11 has been nothing short of a pain for me. I have had more
issues with this one release than I have for all of the preceding
releases combined.


Next comes the issues with streaming audio or video. Since the update
of Firefox 3.1 to 3.1.1 all streaming media (youtube and the like)
played through the browser crashes at random points within the stream
usually locking up the browser for a period of time and the
audio/video does not return to normal. I tried to uninstall Firefox
3.1.1 and reinstall Firefox 3.1 but that did not work Firefox simply
ceased to work.




Streaming video was crashing for me too. After trying the different
plugins (Adobe flash, swfdec, xine-plugin) rolling back the
nspluginwrapper to version 1.3.0-5 fixed the problem.



Don't get me wrong, but I find people tend to stick to their old ways 
and bork up their system trying to do things they _think_ is the _right_ 
way to do just because they have been doing it that way for *a long* 
time. That doesn't mean something is broken.


For starters, all this business about flash and multimedia, earlier ugly 
hacks like wrappers or binary w32 codecs were the _only_ way to go. But 
lately that is not the case. Modern linux distributions _do not_ require 
packages like libflashsupport or nspluginwrapper to meet the usual 
requirements of an user. Most of the time its these which cause the problem.


If the people having problems could be more specific and descriptive 
about their problems then those of us with everything _just working_ 
could try to help. I for one have an almost perfect experience other 
than an unstable session manager for XFCE.


This is what I have installed for my almost perfect setup:
for multimedia,


yum list installed \*gstreamer\*
Loaded plugins: keys, presto, refresh-packagekit, verify
Installed Packages
gstreamer.x86_64  0.10.24-1.fc11  @updates
gstreamer-ffmpeg.x86_64   0.10.8-1.fc11   
@rpmfusion-free-updates
gstreamer-plugins-bad.x86_64  0.10.13-6.fc11  
@rpmfusion-free-updates
gstreamer-plugins-bad-extras.x86_64   0.10.13-6.fc11  
@rpmfusion-free-updates
gstreamer-plugins-base.x86_64 0.10.23-3.fc11  @updates
gstreamer-plugins-flumpegdemux.x86_64 0.10.15-6.fc11  installed
gstreamer-plugins-good.x86_64 0.10.15-4.fc11  @updates
gstreamer-plugins-schroedinger.x86_64 1.0.7-1.fc11@updates
gstreamer-plugins-ugly.x86_64 0.10.12-2.fc11  
@rpmfusion-free-updates
gstreamer-python.x86_64   0.10.16-1.fc11  @updates
gstreamer-tools.x86_640.10.24-1.fc11  @updates
phonon-backend-gstreamer.x86_64   4.3.1-6.fc11@updates
totem-gstreamer.x86_642.26.3-1.fc11   @updates



yum list installed \*player\*
Loaded plugins: keys, presto, refresh-packagekit, verify
Installed Packages
gecko-mediaplayer.x86_64   0.9.6-1.fc11   
@rpmfusion-free-updates
gnome-mplayer.x86_64   0.9.6-2.fc11   
@rpmfusion-free-updates
gnome-mplayer-common.x86_640.9.6-2.fc11   
@rpmfusion-free-updates
mplayer.x86_64 1.0-0.109.20090329svn.fc11 @rpmfusion-free
mplayer-doc.x86_64 1.0-0.109.20090329svn.fc11 @rpmfusion-free



yum list installed \*dirac\*
Loaded plugins: keys, presto, refresh-packagekit, verify
Installed Packages
dirac.x86_64 1.0.2-2.fc11 
@fedora
dirac-libs.x86_641.0.2-2.fc11 
@fedora


As for flash, the only thing I have is the 64 bit plugin and it has 
never failed on me.



lt /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/
total 9.6M
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root   41 2009-06-04 16:42 libjavaplugin.so - 
/etc/alternatives/libjavaplugin.so.x86_64
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  86K 2009-06-05 12:09 gecko-mediaplayer-wmp.so
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  86K 2009-06-05 12:09 gecko-mediaplayer.so
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  86K 2009-06-05 12:09 gecko-mediaplayer-rm.so
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  86K 2009-06-05 12:09 gecko-mediaplayer-qt.so
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  86K 2009-06-05 12:09 gecko-mediaplayer-dvx.so
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 6.6K 2009-07-10 06:57 
librhythmbox-itms-detection-plugin.so
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 9.2M 2009-08-01 17:27 libflashplayer.so


Hopefully I haven't come on too strong, but I am sick and tired of all 
the ranting in the recent months and hope that this will help someone 
get started towards a perfect setup on Fedora.


PS: Even pulseaudio works here, it has worked almost flawlessly since 
F10. (don't ask me how tho)


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using ant-conrib.rpm

2009-09-03 Thread Christoph Höger
Hi,

has anybody any idea how to use the ant-contrib.rpm?
It sits there in /usr/share/java but ant reports an error on:

taskdef resource=net/sf/antcontrib/antlib.xml/

Suggestions?

Thanks

Christoph


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Re: So far I am not impressed with F11

2009-09-03 Thread Robert L Cochran
Are you really up-to-date with your Fedora 11 system? Firefox is now at 
3.5.2 and you are talking about 3.1.1. You might want to look into that. 
I'm using Firefox 3.5.2 on Fedora 11 x86_64 and have no problems with 
YouTube. I watch YouTube and Vimeo videos just fine. If your system is 
behind on updates, I recommend doing a full update. If you are worried 
about the size of updates, install yum-presto first and then do a full 
update. Presto will download much smaller *.drpm packages if possible 
for your base of installed packages.


Are you sure your sound hardware is plugged in and really working? For 
example you don't have a stereo jack that's not all the way in? It is 
very easy to overlook hardware issues and blame it all on the software.


Bob


On 09/02/2009 02:38 PM, Randall J. Berry wrote:
So far F11 has been nothing short of a pain for me. I have had more 
issues with this one release than I have for all of the preceding 
releases combined.


The issues begin with sound, at any given moment for apparently no 
reason all sound including system sounds turn to static.  This has 
been an issue since day one of my fresh install of F11 and I have yet 
to find a reason for it. I also had the same issue with F10 which is 
why I skipped F10 on the machine in question and waited for F11. I 
have asked countless times for help on this issue and gotten no 
feedback I can't be the only person having this trouble. The only cure 
is a reboot and even then it's only a temporary fix because its sure 
to happen again even after periods of time when the computer has been 
left idle doing nothing.


Next comes the issues with streaming audio or video. Since the update 
of Firefox 3.1 to 3.1.1 all streaming media (youtube and the like) 
played through the browser crashes at random points within the stream 
usually locking up the browser for a period of time and the 
audio/video does not return to normal. I tried to uninstall Firefox 
3.1.1 and reinstall Firefox 3.1 but that did not work Firefox simply 
ceased to work.


Then comes the issues with the power save feature. After the specified 
idle time when the monitor goes to sleep it will not come back with 
any activity via the mouse or keyboard. The only solution seems to be 
a blind reboot. Defeating all power saving features is the only work 
around for this issue. Not a fix, but at least the system is still 
functional.


And last but not least the most recent issue which began last night 
when rebooting due to the previously mentioned sound issue. Which is 
that at random gnome panel now refuses to load on user accounts. The 
system reboots to a normal desktop except no system tray and any panel 
function ceases to operate leaving the desktop virtually unusable. I 
have done nothing to the system that would cause this to happen.


I'm at my wits end with F11 as I seem to be the only one with these 
issues. If anyone has any idea what is going on please feel free to 
fill me in. I'll gladly file bugs if I knew what to file the bugs 
against but so far these issues appear without leaving any trace as to 
why.




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Re: So far I am not impressed with F11

2009-09-03 Thread Ian Malone
2009/9/3 s skell...@swbell.net:
 On 09/02/2009 01:38 PM, Randall J. Berry wrote:

 So far F11 has been nothing short of a pain for me. I have had more issues
 with this one release than I have for all of the preceding releases
 combined.


 Next comes the issues with streaming audio or video. Since the update of
 Firefox 3.1 to 3.1.1 all streaming media (youtube and the like) played
 through the browser crashes at random points within the stream usually
 locking up the browser for a period of time and the audio/video does not
 return to normal. I tried to uninstall Firefox 3.1.1 and reinstall Firefox
 3.1 but that did not work Firefox simply ceased to work.



 Streaming video was crashing for me too. After trying the different plugins
 (Adobe flash, swfdec, xine-plugin) rolling back the nspluginwrapper to
 version 1.3.0-5 fixed the problem.


For what it's worth I've had no crash problems running F11 64bit with
the Adobe 64bit beta plugin (search the Adobe site for 64bit flash).
Songbird crashes, but that's not really worrying me at the minute.

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Re: Question on shredding a terebyte drive

2009-09-03 Thread Robert L Cochran
After reading the entire thread, and watching the video, here is what 
I'd do.


Put the drive in a safe.

Go buy a new drive, and make use of it.

Drop the warranty claim even though it is valid. The company will save 
money in the end.


In about 10 years, or whenever the corporate data on the drive is deemed 
obsolete and nonsensitive, hold a Corporate Smash Day in which this 
drive and others are given to budding young technologists supplied with 
sledgehammers and other tools. Offer an all-expenses paid dinner to 
whoever reduces the drives to the smallest pieces.


Bob




On 09/02/2009 04:32 PM, Dean S. Messing wrote:

I have a terebyte sata drive that I need to securely wipe clean.  It
originally had 2 partitions.  I deleted them using `fdisk', rebooted,
and then as root ran

 shred -vz /dev/sdd

The drive is capable of about 60MB/sec, but shred is only shredding
about 25MB every 5 seconds according to its output.  Since the default
number of passes is 25, this works out to about 5 days.

The `shred' process is running at 100% CPU, presumably computing
the special random patterns for erasure.  Since I have 4 CPUs
would creating 4 unformatted partions on the drive and then running
something like:

shred -vz /dev/sdd1
shred -vz /dev/sdd2
shred -vz /dev/sdd3
shred -vz /dev/sdd4

in parallel cut my time?  Would be just as secure?

Thanks
Dean

   


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Unable to install libX11

2009-09-03 Thread SriLatha
Hey i found that two files in /etc/yum.repos.d which are adobe-linux-i386.repo 
and yum-iisc-f11.repo.

Also try looking in the directory 
/etc/yum.repos.d/

Do you have the following two files there?
fedora.repo
fedora-updates.repo 

What are their contents?

As the other responders said, you haven't shown us the real error yet.

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Re: X wont start for install on an hp pavilion HDX-16 1370us

2009-09-03 Thread Steven I Usdansky
I had a similar problem with my HP S3707c desktop (GeForce 9100M graphics). 
Ended up booting into text mode with kernel parameter nouveau.modeset=0,
logged in as root (no password), ran Xorg -configure, edited the resulting file 
to use the vesa driver and copied it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, then ran startx. 


  

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Re: convert ico to svg or png

2009-09-03 Thread Hiisi

Gerhard Magnus
Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:20:42 -0700


Does anyone know a program for FC11 that will convert Windows icon 

files

(.ico) into a format accepted by gnome (.svg or .png)?



I asked nearly the same question recently on this list. I was suggested 
to use mogrify. It's a part of image-magick project 
(www.imagemagick.org). Works excellent! It is in fedora' repos.

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Re: Anyone using Skype on FC11 ?

2009-09-03 Thread jack craig

until this actual attempt to use it, i had assumed it was open source.

as its not, i dont expect i will use it; someone else had asked me to 
try it.


i found most of my earlier issues were with install issues that weren't 
immediately obvious,

now i seem to have sound via PA and i get no errors on a test call.

i just want  to verify i can make a call and will probly set it aside; i 
am not a supporter/user of closed source.


thx for your time to reply, jackc...


On 08/30/2009 01:24 AM, Tim wrote:

On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 15:07 -0700, jack craig wrote:
   

is the source open anywhere?
 

It's a closed source application.  That, and the various discovered
nasties (never mind the ones that haven't, yet, been discovered, because
it's closed source), are why it's not well regarded here.

   


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Fw: Unable to install libX11

2009-09-03 Thread SriLatha
Thanks for the suggestions.

Hey i found two files in /etc/yum.repos.d which are adobe-linux-i386.repo and 
yum-iisc-f11.repo which has contents which iam attaching here.

In response to your suggestion, I tried copying even fedora.repo and 
fedora-updates.repo also which iam attaching here. 

I tried now installing using yum install libX11-devel\* but there is no 
progress. It got stuck in refresh-package-list. I copied the libX11 packages 
into /var/cache/yum/updates/packages.

Thanks in advance
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Re: Chrome-Fedora People

2009-09-03 Thread NoSpaze
On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 22:58 -0400, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
 On 09/01/2009 10:24 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
  On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 21:16 -0400, Jim wrote:
...
  That worked for me, but when I try to view video it claims that Flash is
  not installed, which it is (64-bit Adobe version). There doesn't appear
  to be a way to configure this.

Using x86_64 + flashplayer 64bits -beta-, worked this way:

# ln -s /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/* /usr/lib64/chromium-browser/plugins

Check the about:config URL.
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kmail eating my maildir???

2009-09-03 Thread Christoph Höger
Hi guys,

I recently tried KDE 4.3 and despite some gfx performance flaws this one got me 
screaming:
I installed kdepim 4.3 and run kmail, setup my maildir as inbox and the first 
thing I noticed: All mails were new, odd I thought and wanted to take a look 
at my maildir via mutt. To my surprise: My INBOX was empty now. RGHH. ALL 
MAILS GONE!

Is this really the way to go? Is there no way to keep a sync between the 
maildir and akonadi?

regards,

Christoph

ps: sent by mutt ;)

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Fedora update using preugrade with 2 arch.

2009-09-03 Thread Luc MAIGNAN

Hi,

Is it safe to preupgrade a F7 32 bits to a F11 64 bits ?

BR

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Re: Fedora update using preugrade with 2 arch.

2009-09-03 Thread Ed Greshko
Luc MAIGNAN wrote:
 Hi,

 Is it safe to preupgrade a F7 32 bits to a F11 64 bits ?

 BR

All I know is  I wouldn't do it

Not only is F7--F11 a big jump in and of itself...but trying to go from
32 ~ 64 bits would certainly add to the complexity to the point of
likely utter disaster

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Re: Fedora update using preugrade with 2 arch.

2009-09-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 09/03/2009 06:10 PM, Luc MAIGNAN wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Is it safe to preupgrade a F7 32 bits to a F11 64 bits ?

No. Backup your data and do a fresh installation.

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Re: problems posting

2009-09-03 Thread Paul Allen Newell

Roger wrote:

On 09/03/2009 02:25 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
Over the last 3 months, I noticed that I have posted and not gotten 
any responses. Fair enough, maybe the posts aren't worth it.


But I just did a check of the archives and I don't see any of my 
posts. Don't know if I am incorrectly posting or, in worse case, 
blacklisted. So, I am sending out a test with the hopes that someone 
at least tells me that it was seen.


I posted this on 27jul09 and didn't hear anything, so I dug in a bit 
deeper with my email provider and think I have it sorted out. So, I 
am cut-and-pasting (with the addition of this paragraph) and trying 
again.


If no answer, then at least I have something to go back to the 
fedora-lists and/or my email provider to go huh?


Thanks in advance,
Paul


Your post came thru, I read it
I've had no luck contributing to the above address either.
Roger


Thanks for confirm that I've got the email address sorted out

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Re: Fedora11: Plans for updated mesa/xorg packages ?

2009-09-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 09/03/2009 01:34 PM, Terry Barnaby wrote:
 Does anyone know if there is a plan to release updated
 xorg/mesa packages for F11 any time soon ?
 The F11 ones are very broken, at least for ATI radeon based systems.
 I have been using code from freedesktops git sources
 (drm,mesa,xf86-video-ati) and this is now getting there, at least
 blender works !
 However, the changes needed to the stock F11 are now getting larger
 (xserver update) and it would be good to have an RPM based system again !

Do you have bugzilla numbers so we know what breakage you are talking about?

Rahul

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Re: Removing Gnome from F11

2009-09-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 09/03/2009 08:56 AM, john wendel wrote:
 
 I'm happily using LXDE on my F11 system, and I thought I'd remove Gnome,
 using yum remove gnome\*.
 
 Well, it was not to be. Yum decide to remove parts of LXDE, Firefox,
 Thunderbird, Java, abiword, most of the system admin utilities, and
 about 50 other programs that I would think have nothing to do with Gnome.
 
 Am I stupid or what? Why would Fedora's Firefox have a Gnome dependency
 when I'm sure that the Mozilla version doesn't? Are these real
 dependencies or packaging artifacts?
 
 I don't think I like this disto as much as I once did.

Firefox uses GNOME VFS in Fedora. It can be disabled however that would
would mean reduced functionality.

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Re: Unable to install libX11

2009-09-03 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 17:11:14 +0530 (IST), SriLatha wrote:

 Hey i found that two files in /etc/yum.repos.d which are 
 adobe-linux-i386.repo and yum-iisc-f11.repo.
 

Have you talked to the IISC guys yet?

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Re: Removing Gnome from F11

2009-09-03 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 20:26 -0700, john wendel wrote:
 I'm happily using LXDE on my F11 system, and I thought I'd remove Gnome, 
 using yum remove gnome\*.
 
 Well, it was not to be. Yum decide to remove parts of LXDE, Firefox, 
 Thunderbird, Java, abiword, most of the system admin utilities, and 
 about 50 other programs that I would think have nothing to do with Gnome.
 
 Am I stupid or what? Why would Fedora's Firefox have a Gnome dependency 
 when I'm sure that the Mozilla version doesn't? Are these real 
 dependencies or packaging artifacts?
 
 I don't think I like this disto as much as I once did.
 
 John
 
Have you tried:
 yum groupremove GNOME Desktop Environment
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So, how are the laptops (MBP, W500, XPS 16)?

2009-09-03 Thread Brian Ericson
I'm contemplating a laptop purchase and my current top three 
candidates are a MBP 17, Lenovo W500 (WUXGA/ATI Mobility FireGL V5700 
(512MB)), and a Dell XPS 16 (1080p/ATI Mobility RADEON HD 4670 (1G)).  I 
get the impression -- were I to go with the Lenovo or Dell -- that I'm 
pretty much stuck with the 2D radeon drivers, which seems a shame (I 
confess I like Compiz).


Can anyone comment on their experiences with these laptops?
o How well does video work?
o Sound?
o Sleep/resume?
o Fan noise?

My only two data points are the T61p I tried (shortly after Hardy Heron 
released; back then, they were using an NVIDIA card) and my wife's MBP.  
Hardy Heron wanted to run the T61p's (loud) fan constantly and 
sleep/resume, when it worked, took forever (over a minute to 
re-establish wireless connectivity).  I found it unusable next to my 
wife's MBP which is generally quiet, resumes instantly, and rarely gets 
rebooted (despite both of us being constantly logged onto it).


I'm hoping to hear that Linux has come a long way since my last attempt 
and would work well with either the Lenovo or the Dell.  But, if ATI is 
still to be avoided, does anyone have have any experience with The 
Beast (Lenovo W700), which ships with an NVIDIA card?  Seems too big, 
but I'll bet the screen is much nicer than the almost-too-dim W500's.


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Re: Removing Gnome from F11

2009-09-03 Thread rgheck

On 09/02/2009 11:26 PM, john wendel wrote:


I'm happily using LXDE on my F11 system, and I thought I'd remove
Gnome, using yum remove gnome\*.

Well, it was not to be. Yum decide to remove parts of LXDE, Firefox,
Thunderbird, Java, abiword, most of the system admin utilities, and
about 50 other programs that I would think have nothing to do with Gnome.

That's going to remove a whole ton of stuff. I don't find it terribly 
surprising that it ends up removing firefox. In any event, the reason 
firefox gets removed is it depends upon xulrunner, which depends upon 
gnome-vfs2. (I found this out using yum deplist ) Why exactly we 
have that dependency, I do not know. I'll guess that the same is true 
for Thunderbird. And isn't abiword specifically a wp for Gnome?


The system-* packages often depend upon gnome-python2-gnomekeyring. This 
is not surprising. These are Fedora programs, and Fedora is, and long 
has been, a Gnome-centric distribution. Those of us who use it with KDE 
or some other desktop/wm have to live with that.



Am I stupid or what? Why would Fedora's Firefox have a Gnome
dependency when I'm sure that the Mozilla version doesn't? Are these
real dependencies or packaging artifacts?


The Mozilla version is probably statically compiled, for one thing.

rh

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volume is erratic in Rhythmbox

2009-09-03 Thread Antonio M
sometimes volume is erratic in Rhythmbox, when I connect to a radio
stream slide goes to zero!!!
and sometimes it doesn't remember volume setting from a session to the next.
anyone experiencing same behaviour???
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Getting to grips with Plasma

2009-09-03 Thread Anne Wilson
If KDE 4 still feels strange to you, UserBase now has a treat in store.  Hans 
(aka Mogger, on IRC) has created a whole set of short looping screencasts that 
show you exactly how to do all the common tasks associated with Plasma - 
covering desktop and panel widgets, extenders and activities.  Each one lasts 
only a few seconds, but because it loops you have plenty of time to see 
exactly what is happening.  Find them at 
http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/FAQ/HowTo

In case you didn't already know, there are already

http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma  #a general introduction
http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/FAQ  #now updated to 4.3
http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/Plasmoids#a few of our favourite 
plasmoids.  
Why not add your favourites?

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Re: kmail eating my maildir???

2009-09-03 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 03 September 2009 13:39:36 Christoph Höger wrote:
 Hi guys,

 I recently tried KDE 4.3 and despite some gfx performance flaws this one
 got me screaming: I installed kdepim 4.3 and run kmail, setup my maildir as
 inbox and the first thing I noticed: All mails were new, odd I thought
 and wanted to take a look at my maildir via mutt. To my surprise: My INBOX
 was empty now. RGHH. ALL MAILS GONE!

 Is this really the way to go? Is there no way to keep a sync between the
 maildir and akonadi?

Are you using standard packages?  I have three installations all running KDE 
4.3, and all using KMail to access IMAP mail.  I have no such problem, so the 
question is, what is different about your install?

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Fedora 11: no display after init sequence

2009-09-03 Thread wwp
Hello there,


after I upgraded from Fedora 10 to 11 using yum preupgrade (as proposed by the
daily process that checks for upgrades in GNOME), display in X.org doesn't
work anymore.

My guess is that it's a video/display issue, directly or indirectly, because
the system is responding, meaning I can login in gdm in blind mode using the
keyboard (I got confirmation by reading /var/log/0-slave.log) but the display
is not updated after the loading process with the Fedora logo.

If I boot up in init 2 mode then switch to init 5, I get a blank screen with
a still cursor in top/left corner.

I tried booting with xdriver=vesa as kernel param, same problem.

I changed my xorg.conf to use the vesa driver instead of the intel one, same
problem, with a variant: the blue screen with Fedora logo shows corrupted.

I tried both Option NoAccel True Option DRI False in xorg.conf (file
attached),
same problem.

I tried `X -configure` then `X -config /root/xorg.conf.new`, same problem
(file attached).

When the display is not responding, I cannot switch back to a tty using
ctrl+alt+Fn key combinations, meaning I have to reboot each time I want
to try a different X.org config param.

Nothing looked suspicious to my eyes in /var/log/messages or in
/var/log/Xorg.0.log (attached).

Hardware is a Dell Latitude E6500 with Intel chip and a WUXGA display
(1920x1200). I also attached the output of `lspci -vv` and `lsmod|sort`.

The system is up-to-date (yum), with correct Fedora 11 repositories shown
then I run `yum repolist`.

This is a production laptop and I critically need it to be usable quickly.
I've made a complete backup of the system while it was still running
Fedora 10. In last resort I can rollback to the backup, but well.. this is
not my preferred option at all.

Any help? What could I check or try?


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X.Org X Server 1.6.3
Release Date: 2009-7-31
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.18-128.4.1.el5 i686 
Current Operating System: Linux monolith 2.6.30.5-43.fc11.i686.PAE #1 SMP Thu Aug 27 21:34:36 EDT 2009 i686
Kernel command line: ro root=UUID=045fd764-aead-4d18-8257-2f97c08b3e93 rhgb quiet
Build Date: 19 August 2009  12:30:16AM
Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.6.3-4.fc11 
	Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
	to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
	(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Thu Sep  3 09:03:22 2009
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
(==) ServerLayout single head configuration
(**) |--Screen Screen0 (0)
(**) |   |--Monitor Monitor0
(**) |   |--Device Videocard0
(**) |--Input Device Keyboard0
(**) Option DontZap false
(==) Automatically adding devices
(==) Automatically enabling devices
(==) FontPath set to:
	catalogue:/etc/X11/fontpath.d,
	built-ins
(==) ModulePath set to /usr/lib/xorg/modules
(II) Cannot locate a core pointer device.
(II) The server relies on HAL to provide the list of input devices.
	If no devices become available, reconfigure HAL or disable AllowEmptyInput.
(WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or 'vmmouse' will be disabled.
(WW) Disabling Keyboard0
(II) Loader magic: 0xa40
(II) Module ABI versions:
	X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
	X.Org Video Driver: 5.0
	X.Org XInput driver : 4.0
	X.Org Server Extension : 2.0
(II) Loader running on linux
(++) using VT number 1

(--) PCI:*(0:0:2:0) 8086:2a42:1028:024f Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller rev 7, Mem @ 0xf6c0/4194304, 0xe000/268435456, I/O @ 0xef98/8, BIOS @ 0x/131072
(II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel
(II) System resource ranges:
	[0] -1	0	0x - 0x (0x1) MX[B]
	[1] -1	0	0x000f - 0x000f (0x1) MX[B]
	[2] -1	0	0x000c - 0x000e (0x3) MX[B]
	[3] -1	0	0x - 0x0009 (0xa) MX[B]
	[4] -1	0	0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
	[5] -1	0	0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
(II) LoadModule: extmod
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libextmod.so
(II) Module extmod: vendor=X.Org Foundation
	compiled for 1.6.3, module version = 1.0.0
	Module class: X.Org Server Extension
	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension SELinux
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
(II) Loading extension DPMS
(II) Loading extension XVideo
(II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
(II) Loading extension X-Resource
(II) LoadModule: dbe
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdbe.so
(II) Module dbe: vendor=X.Org Foundation
	compiled for 1.6.3, module version = 1.0.0
	Module class: X.Org Server Extension
	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension 

Re: Fedora11: Plans for updated mesa/xorg packages ?

2009-09-03 Thread Terry Barnaby

On 09/03/2009 02:11 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

On 09/03/2009 01:34 PM, Terry Barnaby wrote:

Does anyone know if there is a plan to release updated
xorg/mesa packages for F11 any time soon ?
The F11 ones are very broken, at least for ATI radeon based systems.
I have been using code from freedesktops git sources
(drm,mesa,xf86-video-ati) and this is now getting there, at least
blender works !
However, the changes needed to the stock F11 are now getting larger
(xserver update) and it would be good to have an RPM based system again !


Do you have bugzilla numbers so we know what breakage you are talking about?

Rahul



There are a large number of ATI R200/R300/R500 bugs listed in Freedesktop's
bugzilla. Two that I have had dealings with are: 21774 and 23232, however
due to heavy development in the xorg/mesa packages there are a lot more
than that. Before using the git sources for drm/mesa,xf86-video-ati I had
various crashes, hangs, system lockups and pixel errors on the screen on both 
R300 and R200 based systems. I think it is the same for Intel graphics as well. 
I don't like using raw git/non RPM code on my systems, but, without the git 
xorg/mesa code F11 is unworkable for me.


Unfortunately the bug, 23232, requires a more recent XOrg XServer. This has
heavy system dependencies and would require me to do a lot of work in building
many packages right down to OpenSSL ...

It seems, to me, that the XOrg/Mesa code has got a lot better since the
code F11 was based on and a F11 update is due. It would certainly help me and 
many others ...



Cheers


Terry

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Re: kmail eating my maildir???

2009-09-03 Thread Christoph Höger
Am Donnerstag, den 03.09.2009, 14:47 +0100 schrieb Anne Wilson:
 On Thursday 03 September 2009 13:39:36 Christoph Höger wrote:
  Hi guys,
 
  I recently tried KDE 4.3 and despite some gfx performance flaws this one
  got me screaming: I installed kdepim 4.3 and run kmail, setup my maildir as
  inbox and the first thing I noticed: All mails were new, odd I thought
  and wanted to take a look at my maildir via mutt. To my surprise: My INBOX
  was empty now. RGHH. ALL MAILS GONE!
 
  Is this really the way to go? Is there no way to keep a sync between the
  maildir and akonadi?
 
 Are you using standard packages?  I have three installations all running KDE 
 4.3, and all using KMail to access IMAP mail.  I have no such problem, so the 
 question is, what is different about your install?

I am using no IMAP. This is a plain Maildir. I simply have my mails
inside a good old maildir - which is emptied by KMail.


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Re: volume is erratic in Rhythmbox

2009-09-03 Thread Derek Cramer
2009/9/3 Antonio M antonio.montagn...@gmail.com:
 sometimes volume is erratic in Rhythmbox, when I connect to a radio
 stream slide goes to zero!!!
 and sometimes it doesn't remember volume setting from a session to the next.
 anyone experiencing same behaviour???
 Latest packages are in use

I have the same issue. Sometimes it chooses a volume level of its own
accord and stubbornly reverts back to it whenever it feels like it
(usually after un-pausing or skipping a song). The chosen level is
usually somewhere just above the level I want.

The above refers to the main volume control in Gnome. The volume
control in Rhythmbox is weirder still. It usually shows itself at
zero, but if I nudge it up any amount at all, it pushes the main
volume up way too high. So I leave it alone.

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Derek

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