Re: Ownership avrdude

2009-09-05 Thread Chitlesh GOORAH
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Bart Vanbrabant wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm claiming ownership over avrdude. There is a new upstream release
 and I'm in progress of packaging software that depends on avrdude.

 Any objections?

No objection, please do.

Chitlesh

PS: Avrdude is included in the FEL livedvd.

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Re: Fedora 12 Snapshot 1 available

2009-09-05 Thread Aioanei Rares

Bill Nottingham wrote:

Fedora 12 Snapshot 1 is now available for testing. These snapshots
consist of live images only.

Available at http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/:
Fedora 12 Live Snapshot 1, for i686 and x86_64
Fedora 12 Live KDE Snapshot 1, for i686 and x86_64

Available at http://spins.fedoraproject.org/:
Fedora 12 Live LXDE Snapshot 1, for i686 and x86_64
Fedora 12 Live XFCE Snapshot 1, for i686

Please report issues in bugzilla.

Bill

  
I changed the liveuser by pressing alt+F3 and logging in as root, but 
after login in kdm I get Could not start ksmserver. Check your 
installation.. And prelink is not available. :-) This is a kvm virtual 
machine.


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Re: Fedora 12 Snapshot 1 available

2009-09-05 Thread Aioanei Rares

Bill Nottingham wrote:

Fedora 12 Snapshot 1 is now available for testing. These snapshots
consist of live images only.

Available at http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/:
Fedora 12 Live Snapshot 1, for i686 and x86_64
Fedora 12 Live KDE Snapshot 1, for i686 and x86_64

Available at http://spins.fedoraproject.org/:
Fedora 12 Live LXDE Snapshot 1, for i686 and x86_64
Fedora 12 Live XFCE Snapshot 1, for i686

Please report issues in bugzilla.

Bill

  

what's the password for liveuser?

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Re: FESCo meeting summary for 20090904

2009-09-05 Thread Clive Messer
On Friday 04 Sep 2009 19:09:53 Jon Stanley wrote:

 17:42:53 dgilmore Kevin_Kofler: please be quiet we have moved on

Someone had to say it! libvdpau - it's a wrapper library, not the spawn of 
Satan or the end of the world! ;) I wonder how many people who voted for Mr 
Kofler to be appointed to FESCo realized quite how uncompromising he would be.

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rawhide report: 20090905 changes

2009-09-05 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Sat Sep  5 06:15:06 UTC 2009

Broken deps for i386
--
anerley-0.0.20-3.fc12.i686 requires libmissioncontrol-client.so.0
anerley-devel-0.0.20-3.fc12.i686 requires pkgconfig(libmissioncontrol)
clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libclutter-cairo-0.8.so.0
clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libcluttermm-0.8.so.2
clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libclutter-glx-0.8.so.0
clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires 
pkgconfig(cluttermm-0.8)
clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires pkgconfig(clutter-0.8)
clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires libclutter-gtk-0.9.so.0
clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires libclutter-glx-0.9.so.0
clutter-gtkmm-devel-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires 
pkgconfig(clutter-gtk-0.9)
cluttermm-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires libclutter-glx-0.9.so.0
cluttermm-devel-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires pkgconfig(clutter-0.9)
collectd-mysql-4.5.3-2.fc11.i586 requires libcrypto.so.8
collectd-mysql-4.5.3-2.fc11.i586 requires libssl.so.8
collectd-nut-4.5.3-2.fc11.i586 requires libcrypto.so.8
collectd-nut-4.5.3-2.fc11.i586 requires libssl.so.8
collectd-snmp-4.5.3-2.fc11.i586 requires libcrypto.so.8
cpptasks-javadoc-1.0b5-2.fc12.noarch requires cpptasks-1.0b5-2.fc12
gpsdrive-2.10-0.1.pre7.fc12.i586 requires libmapnik.so.0.5
network-manager-netbook-1.2-5.fc12.i686 requires libnm_glib.so.0
openvrml-0.18.3-1.fc12.i686 requires java(x86-32)
openvrml-0.18.3-1.fc12.i686 requires gecko-libs(x86-32) = 0:1.9.1
ppl-yap-0.10.2-5.fc12.i686 requires libYap.so
python-repoze-what-quickstart-1.0-2.fc12.noarch requires 
python-repoze-who-plugins-sql
qtparted-0.4.5-19.fc11.i586 requires libparted-1.8.so.8
rygel-0.3-5.fc12.i686 requires libgee.so.0
rygel-tracker-0.3-5.fc12.i686 requires libgee.so.0
tabled-0.3-4.fc12.i686 requires libssl.so.8
tabled-0.3-4.fc12.i686 requires libcrypto.so.8



Broken deps for x86_64
--
anerley-0.0.20-3.fc12.i686 requires libmissioncontrol-client.so.0
anerley-0.0.20-3.fc12.x86_64 requires 
libmissioncontrol-client.so.0()(64bit)
anerley-devel-0.0.20-3.fc12.i686 requires pkgconfig(libmissioncontrol)
anerley-devel-0.0.20-3.fc12.x86_64 requires pkgconfig(libmissioncontrol)
clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libclutter-cairo-0.8.so.0
clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libcluttermm-0.8.so.2
clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libclutter-glx-0.8.so.0
clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.x86_64 requires 
libclutter-glx-0.8.so.0()(64bit)
clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.x86_64 requires 
libclutter-cairo-0.8.so.0()(64bit)
clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.x86_64 requires 
libcluttermm-0.8.so.2()(64bit)
clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires 
pkgconfig(cluttermm-0.8)
clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires pkgconfig(clutter-0.8)
clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.x86_64 requires 
pkgconfig(cluttermm-0.8)
clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.x86_64 requires 
pkgconfig(clutter-0.8)
clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires libclutter-gtk-0.9.so.0
clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires libclutter-glx-0.9.so.0
clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.x86_64 requires 
libclutter-gtk-0.9.so.0()(64bit)
clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.x86_64 requires 
libclutter-glx-0.9.so.0()(64bit)
clutter-gtkmm-devel-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires 
pkgconfig(clutter-gtk-0.9)
clutter-gtkmm-devel-0.9.4-1.fc12.x86_64 requires 
pkgconfig(clutter-gtk-0.9)
cluttermm-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires libclutter-glx-0.9.so.0
cluttermm-0.9.4-1.fc12.x86_64 requires libclutter-glx-0.9.so.0()(64bit)
cluttermm-devel-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires pkgconfig(clutter-0.9)
cluttermm-devel-0.9.4-1.fc12.x86_64 requires pkgconfig(clutter-0.9)
collectd-mysql-4.5.3-2.fc11.x86_64 requires libcrypto.so.8()(64bit)
collectd-mysql-4.5.3-2.fc11.x86_64 requires libssl.so.8()(64bit)
collectd-nut-4.5.3-2.fc11.x86_64 requires libcrypto.so.8()(64bit)
collectd-nut-4.5.3-2.fc11.x86_64 requires libssl.so.8()(64bit)
collectd-snmp-4.5.3-2.fc11.x86_64 requires libcrypto.so.8()(64bit)
cpptasks-javadoc-1.0b5-2.fc12.noarch requires cpptasks-1.0b5-2.fc12
gpsdrive-2.10-0.1.pre7.fc12.x86_64 requires libmapnik.so.0.5()(64bit)
network-manager-netbook-1.2-5.fc12.x86_64 requires 
libnm_glib.so.0()(64bit)
openvrml-0.18.3-1.fc12.i686 requires java(x86-32)
openvrml-0.18.3-1.fc12.i686 requires gecko-libs(x86-32) = 0:1.9.1
openvrml-0.18.3-1.fc12.x86_64 requires gecko-libs(x86-64) = 0:1.9.1
openvrml-0.18.3-1.fc12.x86_64 

dracut error message with latest kernel

2009-09-05 Thread Mike Chambers
Booting with newest kernel, get a message right at boot startup below...

dracut warning: Theme charge not used/known/whatever.

And I also see rd_plytheme=charge in grub as a kernel paramater.  I am
sure if I remove it or change charge to whatever would fix it?

kernel-2.6.31-0.199.rc8.git2.fc12.x86_64



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Evolution in koji not correct version?

2009-09-05 Thread Mike Chambers
Latest release in rawhide for evo is evolution-2.27.91-1.fc12.x86_64.
The latest built in koji is evolution-2.27.5-3.1.fc12.

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Re: dracut error message with latest kernel

2009-09-05 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 07:36:11 -0500,
  Mike Chambers m...@miketc.net wrote:
 Booting with newest kernel, get a message right at boot startup below...
 
 dracut warning: Theme charge not used/known/whatever.
 
 And I also see rd_plytheme=charge in grub as a kernel paramater.  I am
 sure if I remove it or change charge to whatever would fix it?
 
 kernel-2.6.31-0.199.rc8.git2.fc12.x86_64

That isn't the latest kernel. I would suggest just using the exact kernel
version rather than a word like 'latest' or 'newest' that at best is only
accurate for a short time and if you don't check koji, may not even be accurate
when it is first used.

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Where are selinux workarounds/exceptions/hacks tracked?

2009-09-05 Thread nodata
I remember ages and ages ago when selinux first came to Fedora that lots
of apps (Java, flash, Mozilla/Firefox) didn't work because the apps did
dodgy things with memory.

I was wondering if these dodgy things still existed, and if they did,
what effort was being put into making them go away? Is it tracked
anywhere?

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Bugzilla Desktop Client

2009-09-05 Thread Rajkarn Singh
Hi,
I am working on the development of a general Desktop Client for Bugzilla.
Currently it can access Red Hat Bugzilla database, however in future I'd be
working to make it work for other Bugzillas.  I have posted a blog having
somewhat detailed information about it. Please check it at:
http://raj-khalsa.blogspot.com/2009/09/bugzilla-desktop-client-first-phase.html

Working on this project is my first experience into the world of Open
Source. I'm very new to this field. So I'd appreciate your suggessions and
comments for this work. Also, I'm eager to hear you guide me for my future
endeavours. :)

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Re: Bugzilla Desktop Client

2009-09-05 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/9/5 Rajkarn Singh rajkar...@gmail.com:
 Hi,
 I am working on the development of a general Desktop Client for Bugzilla.
 Currently it can access Red Hat Bugzilla database, however in future I'd be
 working to make it work for other Bugzillas.  I have posted a blog having
 somewhat detailed information about it. Please check it at:
 http://raj-khalsa.blogspot.com/2009/09/bugzilla-desktop-client-first-phase.html

 Working on this project is my first experience into the world of Open
 Source. I'm very new to this field. So I'd appreciate your suggessions and
 comments for this work. Also, I'm eager to hear you guide me for my future
 endeavours. :)

Awesome! Very much appreciated!

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Re: clang static analyzer: use it!

2009-09-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
Roland McGrath wrote:
 They do not claim to handle C++.

… which means most of my packages are not eligible for being analyzed by it. 
:-(

Kevin Kofler

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Re: Bugzilla Desktop Client

2009-09-05 Thread Christopher Brown
Would be grateful for info on what this does that bz web interface doesn't.

On Sep 5, 2009 6:36 PM, Rajkarn Singh rajkar...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,
I am working on the development of a general Desktop Client for Bugzilla.
Currently it can access Red Hat Bugzilla database, however in future I'd be
working to make it work for other Bugzillas.  I have posted a blog having
somewhat detailed information about it. Please check it at:
http://raj-khalsa.blogspot.com/2009/09/bugzilla-desktop-client-first-phase.html

Working on this project is my first experience into the world of Open
Source. I'm very new to this field. So I'd appreciate your suggessions and
comments for this work. Also, I'm eager to hear you guide me for my future
endeavours. :)

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Re: clang static analyzer: use it!

2009-09-05 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:04 AM, Steve Grubbsgr...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Friday 04 September 2009 02:30:14 am Jim Meyering wrote:
 Quick summary: use this tool:

   http://clang-analyzer.llvm.org/

 If you're not using its scan-build tool, then start.  Right now.
 Really.  It's that good.

Thanks for pointing this out!


 llvm is in Fedora. Looking at the build instructions for clang, it seems like
 it would naturally fit as a subpackage for llvm. So, getting it into Fedora
 should not be too much to do since llvm is already approved.


I co-maintain the LLVM package, and this is next on my TODO list.
Currently testing some configuration changes for OpenGTL and Pure. One
snag is that there is no stable release of clang yet, but I can work
around this by matching clang's revision number against LLVM's at the
time of release.

I'll probably start by doing an RPM of the LLVM 2.6 pre-release -- the
current clang ought to be much better than the one from a year ago.

Mail me off-list if you want to be notified when a build is ready for
testing? Address it to sali...@fedoraproject.org to help my mail
filters.

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Re: clang static analyzer: use it!

2009-09-05 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Kevin Koflerkevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
 Roland McGrath wrote:
 They do not claim to handle C++.

 … which means most of my packages are not eligible for being analyzed by it.
 :-(

Yes, unfortunately the priority is to get C going first and then Obj-C.

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[Bug 517620] Xchat wants to install additional font Japanese which fails

2009-09-05 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #4 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2009-09-05 
11:13:45 EDT ---
1. If the text stack incorrectly decides to install a japanese font, it's a
either a fontconfig (bad definition of japanese glyphs) or pango (bad
detection) bug. If there is some japanese to display in (for example in one of
the nicks), the autoinstall suggestion is correct

2.  However once it has decided to install a japanese font, if it fails, that's
clearly a pk bug

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[Bug 517789] Droid Sans overrides default Japanese desktop font

2009-09-05 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=517789


Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Flag||needinfo?(besfa...@redhat.c
   ||om)




--- Comment #4 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2009-09-05 
11:19:27 EDT ---
Droid packaging has not changed for months, I guess this is fallout from all
the CJK rules restructuring in fontconfig (I did ask people to check droid too
:()

Behdad: do you have an idea on how to restrict this rule properly to Droid Sans
and Japanese ? It's not supposed to change the font for non-japanese and
non-droid sans

(unless the desktop spin people did set the default font to droid sans, in
which case all bets are off)

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[Bug 495735] mergerepos results in traceback from yum.packages

2009-09-05 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #11 from Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net  2009-09-05 
13:14:32 EDT ---
(In reply to comment #10)

 Apparently, something in RPM has a non-utf8/non-unicode
 lang(some-japanese-characters) foo which causes yum.packages._dump_pco() to
 fail.

We now export the font names font files declared in rpm metadata for font
autoinstallation to work. They can be complex (non ASCII) Unicode.

Though IIRC fc-query exports valid UTF-8, something else must be corrupting
this data later

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[Bug 517789] Droid Sans overrides default Japanese desktop font

2009-09-05 Thread bugzilla
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Behdad Esfahbod besfa...@redhat.com changed:

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 CC||besfa...@redhat.com
   Flag|needinfo?(besfa...@redhat.c |
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--- Comment #5 from Behdad Esfahbod besfa...@redhat.com  2009-09-05 20:07:28 
EDT ---
Nicolas, can you summarize what's going on?  I'm clueless.

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[Bug 517789] Droid Sans overrides default Japanese desktop font

2009-09-05 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #6 from Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com  2009-09-05 22:20:45 
EDT ---
Droid fonts are included on the desktop spin. They are not the default.

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[Bug 517789] Droid Sans overrides default Japanese desktop font

2009-09-05 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=517789





--- Comment #7 from Behdad Esfahbod besfa...@redhat.com  2009-09-05 23:16:19 
EDT ---
So, we do want them in the default install?  Why?

Nicolas, you can't match language on target=scan.  Lemme check your conf file
and get back to you.

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Re: Fedora Insight Zikula on pt6 Is About To Be Upgraded

2009-09-05 Thread Mel Chua

On 09/04/2009 04:40 PM, Affix wrote:

Zikula Upgraded to Zikula 1.1.2


Wow - and the skin's back up on there as well (as a checkout from an SVN 
repository, svnfedora-zikula-theme, w00t)! Thanks, Keiran - this is 
fantastic.


Do the instructions on 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_set_up_a_Zikula_sandbox still 
work, or is there anything we need to do to edit them to reflect the 
install process for 1.1.2?


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RE: Building kernel-2.6.31-0.190 rawhide in F11

2009-09-05 Thread Markus Kesaromous




 From: remotes...@live.com
 CC: fedora-kernel-list@redhat.com
 Subject: RE: Building kernel-2.6.31-0.190 rawhide in F11
 Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 20:04:35 -0700




 
 From: pebo...@tiscali.nl
 To: remotes...@live.com
 Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 10:38:44 +0200
 CC: fedora-kernel-list@redhat.com
 Subject: Re: Building kernel-2.6.31-0.190 rawhide in F11

 On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 22:08 -0700, Markus Kesaromous wrote:
 Build, instal and boot went fine, except radeon driver does not work.
 Radeon works just fine in 2.6.29.6-217.2.16.fc11.i586, but not
 in 2.6.31-0.190...

 That could be some sort of mismatch between that Rawhide kernel and the
 F11 X Server you seem to use (Rawhide currently uses X.Org X Server
 1.6.99.1). I'd try one of the following kernel command line options:

 nomodeset
 radeon.modeset=0

 Those could be used to work around some issues with Rawhide's Radeon
 kernel driver (or Rawhide's Radeon X module, or whatever) a few weeks
 back. (It' s just a guess though. I hardly know anything about the way
 the kernel and the X Server interact.)


 Paul Bolle


 Thank you Paul.

 nomodeset was accepted as a boot arg. radeon.modeset=0 was not recognized as 
 a valid boot arg.

 However, nomodeset did the trick. I now have X up under the auspices
 of kernel-2.6.31-rc8.fc11.i586

 Other observations:
 after I edited the boot args and added the nomodeset radeo.moseset=0
 and pressed b to boot, it took almost 3 minutes to get the login prompt.
 Even after logging in, it took more than 1 minute to populate the screen with 
 all my icons: about 55 of them.

 Also, starting up Firefox and thunderbird also took considerably longer.
 Sorry for not providing an objective time value in terms of how much
 slower they started - should have timed them !

 To provide some comparison with other kernels:
 2.6.29.6-217.2.16.fc11.i586 boots to the login prompt in 1.5 minutes.
 2.6.29.5.191.fc11.586 booted to login prompt in 38 seconds.
 On same dual boot machine, Windows XP boots to login prompt in
 30 seconds.

 Cheers,

 MK

I  timed the boot to login prompt duration again for kernel-2.6.31-0.190
and this time it took only 84 seconds. First timing may have been affected by
other factors - fsck???

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Re: Fedora11: Plans for updated mesa/xorg packages ?

2009-09-05 Thread Terry Barnaby

On 09/03/2009 03:10 PM, Terry Barnaby wrote:

On 09/03/2009 02:11 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

On 09/03/2009 01:34 PM, Terry Barnaby wrote:

Does anyone know if there is a plan to release updated
xorg/mesa packages for F11 any time soon ?
The F11 ones are very broken, at least for ATI radeon based systems.
I have been using code from freedesktops git sources
(drm,mesa,xf86-video-ati) and this is now getting there, at least
blender works !
However, the changes needed to the stock F11 are now getting larger
(xserver update) and it would be good to have an RPM based system
again !


Do you have bugzilla numbers so we know what breakage you are talking
about?

Rahul



There are a large number of ATI R200/R300/R500 bugs listed in Freedesktop's
bugzilla. Two that I have had dealings with are: 21774 and 23232, however
due to heavy development in the xorg/mesa packages there are a lot more
than that. Before using the git sources for drm/mesa,xf86-video-ati I had
various crashes, hangs, system lockups and pixel errors on the screen on
both R300 and R200 based systems. I think it is the same for Intel
graphics as well. I don't like using raw git/non RPM code on my systems,
but, without the git xorg/mesa code F11 is unworkable for me.

Unfortunately the bug, 23232, requires a more recent XOrg XServer. This has
heavy system dependencies and would require me to do a lot of work in
building
many packages right down to OpenSSL ...

It seems, to me, that the XOrg/Mesa code has got a lot better since the
code F11 was based on and a F11 update is due. It would certainly help
me and many others ...


Cheers


Terry


So are there any plans for updated mesa/xorg packages for F11 ?

Looking at the Mesa and freedesktop mail lists, Mesa is just branching its
7.6 branch for stable/bug fixing and Xorg is stabilising for release
1.7 of the XServer.

Sounds like a good time for Fedora 11 to update to the latest ...
Is there any road map or plans for F11 somewhere ?

Cheers



Terry

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Re: Enabling Tabs On Mediawiki

2009-09-05 Thread Robert L Cochran

On 09/04/2009 08:16 PM, Aldo Foot wrote:

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Robert L Cochrancochr...@speakeasy.net  wrote:
...snip...
   

Aldo, thank you for making me aware of this. I'm going to work on installing
from the Mediawiki source just as you have. As I want to try to save the one
wiki page that I've spent hours working on, I'm going back up my database
and configuration files and see if I can treat this as an upgrade. That
requires an AdminSettings.php file to be present in the wiki root. There is
an /usr/share/mediawiki/AdminSettings.sample which can be copied to the wiki
root. The file is needed for scripts in the maintenance directory to run. I
didn't know any of these details until I started looking at the upgrade
page here:

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading

I will let you know how things go. I'll also file bugs as needed to get this
issue of no tabs resolved in the Fedora version of mediawiki. Perhaps some
needed installation files were left out of the binaries.

Bob
 



I like the Alternative 2: Re-run the installer. Since I know
the usernames, passwords and initial dbase name it could be
as simple as re-typing them. I'll try to find some time and rerun
my install just to test this. It could be a lifesaver for a
future upgrade.

Who knows... perhaps there is a yum package in some repo to add tabs.
The manual method is just not efficient compared to installing from source.

BTW, thanks for that link to the manual upgrade.

~af
   


Hi Aldo,

I figured out the problem and got the beautiful Mediawiki Monobook 
skin to finally show up, using the Fedora-packaged mediawiki code. The 
key to solving the problem was constantly checking out 
/var/log/httpd/error_log, which hundreds if not thousands of entries 
like these:


[Sat Sep 05 02:25:05 2009] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] File does not 
exist: /var/www/html/w/skins/common, referer: 
http://deafeng3.signtype.info/wiki/Main_Page
[Sat Sep 05 02:25:05 2009] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] File does not 
exist: /var/www/html/w/skins/common, referer: 
http://deafeng3.signtype.info/wiki/Main_Page


I'm running httpd -- the Apache web server. This message means the 
server couldn't find a file being requested. In this case, it was trying 
to fetch the stuff needed to show the default Monobook skin. My document 
root is /var/www/html, and within that, I set up the wiki root which is 
/var/www/html/w. Inside that is an empty directory named 'skins'. And 
httpd couldn't find skins/common.


With more reading of documentation, I realized something was wrong with 
my /etc/httpd/conf.d/mediawiki.conf file. Specifically, my Alias 
statements were not set up correctly. Here is the Alias statement that 
fixes the error messages above:


Alias /w/skins /usr/share/mediawiki/skins

After which running

apachectl configtest
service httpd restart

magically got the beautiful Monobook skin to work!

The next step was to get Short URLs to work. That meant reading this 
MediaWiki article:


http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Short_URL

and adding these lines to LocalSettings.php in /var/www/html/w :

# Virtual path. This directory MUST be different from the one used in 
$wgScriptPath

$wgArticlePath  = /wiki/$1;
# Enable use of pretty URLs
$wgUsePathInfo  = true;


I put these right below this line:

$wgScriptPath   = /w;

And then I needed one more Alias entry in /etc/httpd/conf.d/mediawiki.conf:

Alias /wiki /var/www/html/w/index.php

Save the file, test the configuration, restart httpd, and pow! URLs like 
this should work:


http://localhost/wiki/Chigger_Bites

I hope this helps you. I think these changes now allow what I want to 
see. I've learned a thing or two about Mediawiki and Apache, and also of 
backing up my wiki files properly.


Oh, a few final bits. Every time you see a reference to giving the 
webserver write access to some resource, that means basically doing this:


chown apache.apache /path/to/file

Be careful that AdminSettings.php is not world-readable if you create it 
in your wiki root.


Thanks

Bob

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Euro Symbol Where do I find it F11 oo.o\Character Map?

2009-09-05 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)

Looking to insert WEuro Symbol in a oo.o spreadsheet,
but cannot seem to find where to get the character,
on the box F11 UTF_8 default encoding.
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Solved Re: Euro Symbol Where do I find it F11 oo.o\Character Map?

2009-09-05 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)

On 05/09/09 12:38, Colin J Thomson - G6AVK wrote:

Hi,

On Saturday 05 September 2009 12:24:59 Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote:

Looking to insert WEuro Symbol in a oo.o spreadsheet,
but cannot seem to find where to get the character,
on the box F11 UTF_8 default encoding.


Alt Gr 4 should do the trick, seems the default key combo here in
KDE4/F11


Thanks Colin,

was trying ctrl-alt-4

Alt Gr +4 it is, Gnome.

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Re: USB I/O performance

2009-09-05 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Tony Nelson wrote:
 On 09-08-30 20:06:22, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
  ...
 I have a really slow flash (writes at 2MiB/s), so I tried to increase
 the number; the trick was impossible for me, the parameter is refused 
 when 120.
 
 Just out of curiosity, what happens with 64?

64 or 60 appears to slow it down a bit (2.5MiB/s becomes 2.2MiB/s).

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Re: Fedora compile dependence problem

2009-09-05 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 07:02:46 -0500, John wrote:

 I am trying to compile an application on a Fedora 11 computer I have but 
 keep getting a missing dependency error when trying to install qt-devel.

Show us more of the output and the full command you entered!

The glibc-common.x86_64 that is installed on your machine is from
updates-testing. The one that Yum tries to pull in is from updates.
Did you forget to enable updates-testing when trying to install qt-devel?

 Here is the error:
 -- Processing Dependency: glibc-common = 2.10.1-4 for package: 
 glibc-2.10.1-4.i686
 --- Package nss-softokn-freebl.i586 0:3.12.3.99.3-2.11.4.fc11 set to be 
 updated
 -- Finished Dependency Resolution
 glibc-2.10.1-4.i686 from updates has depsolving problems
-- Missing Dependency: glibc-common = 2.10.1-4 is needed by package 
 glibc-2.10.1-4.i686 (updates)
 Error: Missing Dependency: glibc-common = 2.10.1-4 is needed by package 
 glibc-2.10.1-4.i686 (updates)
   You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
   You could try running: package-cleanup --problems
  package-cleanup --dupes
  rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
 # rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigestreturns nothing
 I appear to have glibc-common installed.
 # rpm -qa | grep glibc-common
 glibc-common-2.10.1-5.x86_64

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stream goes broken when listening to some radio

2009-09-05 Thread Antonio M
If I tune to Radioswisspop ( http://www.radioswisspop.ch/it/webradio )
for example, stream goes broken after sometime (faster in Rhythmbox
than in Totem, but I cannot play for more than hour, many times about
15 minutes..)) and it is independent from quality of stream.
Any comment??? I suppose that it is dependent on some gstreamer
package, in M$Windows stream on same hardware is o.k
Computer is a F11 fully updated, with  Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER
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Re: stream goes broken when listening to some radio

2009-09-05 Thread Elliott Chapin

Perhaps the CCRMA kernel would help; it's realtime enhanced.

On 09/05/2009 10:01 AM, Antonio M wrote:

If I tune to Radioswisspop ( http://www.radioswisspop.ch/it/webradio )
for example, stream goes broken after sometime (faster in Rhythmbox
than in Totem, but I cannot play for more than hour, many times about
15 minutes..)) and it is independent from quality of stream.
Any comment??? I suppose that it is dependent on some gstreamer
package, in M$Windows stream on same hardware is o.k
Computer is a F11 fully updated, with  Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER
(ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller



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Re: stream goes broken when listening to some radio

2009-09-05 Thread Antonio M
2009/9/5 Elliott Chapin echa...@teksavvy.com:
 Perhaps the CCRMA kernel would help; it's realtime enhanced.

 On 09/05/2009 10:01 AM, Antonio M wrote:




not available for F11, I think
And my system was working fine until recently, I don't know if
something happened to the stream or to some package during updates

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Re: stream goes broken when listening to some radio

2009-09-05 Thread Elliott Chapin

Oh? Guess what I'm running :)

On 09/05/2009 10:59 AM, Antonio M wrote:

2009/9/5 Elliott Chapinecha...@teksavvy.com:

Perhaps the CCRMA kernel would help; it's realtime enhanced.

On 09/05/2009 10:01 AM, Antonio M wrote:







not available for F11, I think
And my system was working fine until recently, I don't know if
something happened to the stream or to some package during updates



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Fedora 11 Nautilus CD/DVD creator problem

2009-09-05 Thread Paul Erickson

I am running Fedora 11 x86_64 with a Panasonic CD/DVD writer.
I am having a consistent issue with the Nautilus CD/DVD creator. After 
clicking  burn to disk Brassero is invoked to burn the data to disk, 
and after the data is burned to the disk it goes into Creating image 
checksum mode, and will sit there forever until I click Cancel Once 
Cancel is clicked I get the Data CD successfully burnt message but 
clicking on the desktop icon to unmount it, the icon remains and 
repeated clicking has no effect. I can simply press the drive button and 
the disk is ejected. Reinsertion shows that the disk is fine, where, if 
anywhere should I report these bugs?


Applications such as K3B work fine.

Any other ideas would be appreciated.

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F11 Upgrade Hangs

2009-09-05 Thread Law Barstow

I am trying to upgrade my Fedora 10 system to Fedora 11. System is
x86_64 with a RAID1 Mirror.  /Boot is on this mirror, so I can't use
preupgrade (Bug 504826).  Instead, I downloaded the install DVD and
tried to do the upgrade.

If I choose Upgrade Existing System,the upgrade starts and I
think /sbin/loader runs then it hangs at Initializing Hardware.  I do
get a mouse pointer that starts working after a minute or so.  But
that's it.  Also, the text is shifted to the right.  So the information
starts on the far right of the screen and then wraps to the left.

When I then tried using the Install using basic video driver option,
my existing F10 installation isn't found.  Instead, an error of error
reading device sda is displayed and I am asked to reinitialize my
drives, which is something I'd rather not do.

Any suggestions?

Thank you,
Law

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Re: stream goes broken when listening to some radio

2009-09-05 Thread Antonio M
2009/9/5 Elliott Chapin echa...@teksavvy.com:
 Oh? Guess what I'm running :)

 On 09/05/2009 10:59 AM, Antonio M wrote:

 2009/9/5 Elliott Chapinecha...@teksavvy.com:

 Perhaps the CCRMA kernel would help; it's realtime enhanced.

 On 09/05/2009 10:01 AM, Antonio M wrote:




 not available for F11, I think
 And my system was working fine until recently, I don't know if
 something happened to the stream or to some package during updates


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I installed gecko-mediaplayer and I conencted to same radio.If I
start it from the song ticker, I can load blocks of 17 min 53 sec and
when each block is finished music stops and I have to re-issue a play
(button..)
If I start from the main page I get a counter for example of 7:53/2:08
where 7:53 increases with time but 2:08 doesn't increase.
I am confused


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Re: stream goes broken when listening to some radio

2009-09-05 Thread jack craig

i use mplayer which in turn uses alsa audio/pulseaudio.

i get a counter that shows cache size and does, on occasion, run dry 
making the stream stop.

when this happens, i find a message re: audio in the /var/log/messages file.

i suggest you look at this system log when you stream dies looking for 
explicit clues.


then depending on what you see for a fact, decide your course of action.
swapping kernels on a whim seems like swatting at flies with a 12 
gauge... :-\


FWIW, my fc10 seemed to work better, but my current fc11 has this 
symptom too.


good luck, ...

On 09/05/2009 08:57 AM, Antonio M wrote:

2009/9/5 Elliott Chapinecha...@teksavvy.com:
   

Oh? Guess what I'm running :)

On 09/05/2009 10:59 AM, Antonio M wrote:
 

2009/9/5 Elliott Chapinecha...@teksavvy.com:
   

Perhaps the CCRMA kernel would help; it's realtime enhanced.

On 09/05/2009 10:01 AM, Antonio M wrote:
 


   
 

not available for F11, I think
And my system was working fine until recently, I don't know if
something happened to the stream or to some package during updates

   

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I installed gecko-mediaplayer and I conencted to same radio.If I
start it from the song ticker, I can load blocks of 17 min 53 sec and
when each block is finished music stops and I have to re-issue a play
(button..)
If I start from the main page I get a counter for example of 7:53/2:08
where 7:53 increases with time but 2:08 doesn't increase.
I am confused


   


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system unbootable after online upgrade to Fedora 11

2009-09-05 Thread Simon Tierney
Help, please, I recently upgraded online from F10 to F11 but now the 
system hangs with a blinking cursor to the top left hand side of the 
screen immediately after the fedora 11 progress bar at bottom of the 
screen completes.


Can someone advise me how to solve this problem?

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SELinux Exim Problem

2009-09-05 Thread Frank Chiulli
On F11 when exim attempts to retrieve mail from my ISP, I get the following:

Summary:
SELinux is preventing exim (exim_t) getattr boot_t.

Detailed Description:
SELinux denied access requested by exim. It is not expected that this
access is required by exim and this access may signal an intrusion
attempt. It is also possible that the specific version or
configuration of the application is causing it to require additional
access.

Allowing Access:
You can generate a local policy module to allow this access - see FAQ
(http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq-fc5/#id2961385) Or you can
disable SELinux protection altogether. Disabling SELinux protection is
not recommended.  Please file a bug report
(http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi) against this
package.

Additional Information:
Source Contextsystem_u:system_r:exim_t:s0
Target Contextsystem_u:object_r:boot_t:s0
Target Objects/boot [ dir ]
Sourceexim
Source Path   /usr/sbin/exim
Port  Unknown
Host  flinux
Source RPM Packages   exim-4.69-10.fc11
Target RPM Packages   filesystem-2.4.21-1.fc11
Policy RPMselinux-policy-3.6.12-80.fc11
Selinux Enabled   True
Policy Type   targeted
MLS Enabled   True
Enforcing ModeEnforcing
Plugin Name   catchall
Host Name flinux
Platform  Linux flinux 2.6.29.6-217.2.16.fc11.i686.PAE #1
  SMP Mon Aug 24 17:16:21 EDT 2009 i686 athlon
Alert Count   327
First SeenSun 12 Jul 2009 05:09:10 PM PDT
Last Seen Sat 05 Sep 2009 09:05:41 AM PDT
Local ID  c330c7e2-7fd7-45ae-8ebb-8de1def6e145
Line Numbers

Raw Audit Messages
node=flinux type=AVC msg=audit(1252166741.77:28): avc:  denied  {
getattr } for  pid=2279 comm=exim path=/boot dev=sda1 ino=2
scontext=system_u:system_r:exim_t:s0
tcontext=system_u:object_r:boot_t:s0 tclass=dir

node=flinux type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1252166741.77:28): arch=4003
syscall=195 success=no exit=-13 a0=bfbe1292 a1=bfbe1688 a2=756ff4 a3=0
items=0 ppid=1489 pid=2279 auid=4294967295 uid=93 gid=93 euid=93
suid=93 fsuid=93 egid=93 sgid=93 fsgid=93 tty=(none) ses=4294967295
comm=exim exe=/usr/sbin/exim subj=system_u:system_r:exim_t:s0
key=(null)

=

Other information:
RPMs:
exim-4.69-10.fc11.i586
selinux-policy-3.6.12-80.fc11.noarch
selinux-policy-targeted-3.6.12-80.fc11.noarch

The mail does get through but I get an SELinux error for each message.

I've looked for '/boot' in exim config files but came up empty.

I installed F11 but kept my home directory which is on a different disk.

Since I have not heard anyone else complaining about this, I figure
that it's my configuration.  I just don't know where else to look.

Frank

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Re: F11 Upgrade Hangs

2009-09-05 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 09/05/2009 11:43 AM, Law Barstow wrote:
 
 I am trying to upgrade my Fedora 10 system to Fedora 11. System is
 x86_64 with a RAID1 Mirror.  /Boot is on this mirror, so I can't use
 preupgrade (Bug 504826).  Instead, I downloaded the install DVD and
 tried to do the upgrade.
 
 If I choose Upgrade Existing System,the upgrade starts and I
 think /sbin/loader runs then it hangs at Initializing Hardware.  I do
 get a mouse pointer that starts working after a minute or so.  But
 that's it.  Also, the text is shifted to the right.  So the information
 starts on the far right of the screen and then wraps to the left.
 
 When I then tried using the Install using basic video driver option,
 my existing F10 installation isn't found.  Instead, an error of error
 reading device sda is displayed and I am asked to reinitialize my
 drives, which is something I'd rather not do.
 
 Any suggestions?

Can you break the mirror, do the upgrade in degraded mode, then re-add
the mirror and rebuild?

 Thank you,
 Law
 


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Re: Enabling Tabs On Mediawiki

2009-09-05 Thread Aldo Foot
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Robert L Cochrancochr...@speakeasy.net wrote:
 Hi Aldo,

 I figured out the problem and got the beautiful Mediawiki Monobook skin to
 finally show up, using the Fedora-packaged mediawiki code. The key to
 solving the problem was constantly checking out /var/log/httpd/error_log,
 which hundreds if not thousands of entries like these:

 [Sat Sep 05 02:25:05 2009] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] File does not exist:
 /var/www/html/w/skins/common, referer:


Nothing is ever easy with Fedora, eh?   :-)
Yesterday, I was playing around with the skin settings in my wiki and
noticed the
similarity between a particular skin type and the barebone yum install. I had
the thought in the back of my mind that it could be a skin related problem, but
I dismissed it thinking that it was too simple. Sometimes the answer is right
in front of us. You've come up with a good answer; nice work.

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Wordpress Permissions For Image Uploads

2009-09-05 Thread Robert L Cochran
I installed the Fedora package of wordpress and promptly created a user 
account for myself and tried to upload a photo to my first post. The 
upload keeps failing due to permissions problems. Wordpress wants to 
upload (via php scripts) to


/usr/share/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/09.

I think I need to change /usr/share/wordpress to allow the user apache 
group ownership:


chown -R root.apache /usr/share/wordpress

then give group write and execute permissions for /usr/share/wordpress 
and all its subdirectories:


chmod -R g+wx /usr/share/wordpress.

Are there any Wordpress users out there with advice for me about whether 
this makes sense?


Thanks

Bob


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Re: USB I/O performance

2009-09-05 Thread Tony Nelson
On 09-09-05 08:22:36, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
 Tony Nelson wrote:
  On 09-08-30 20:06:22, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
   ...
  I have a really slow flash (writes at 2MiB/s), so I tried to
  increase the number; the trick was impossible for me, the  
  parameter is refused when 120.
  
  Just out of curiosity, what happens with 64?
 
 64 or 60 appears to slow it down a bit (2.5MiB/s becomes 2.2MiB/s).

Thanks.  So it's not just a power of 2 issue.

I wonder if it is related to the size of an erase block (which I read 
are usually 64K, 128K, or 256K)?  When writing is slow, there may be 
lots of read/alter/rewrites happening, with extra wear on the flash.

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Re: Wordpress Permissions For Image Uploads

2009-09-05 Thread Manuel Aróstegui
El sáb, 05-09-2009 a las 12:52 -0400, Robert L Cochran escribió:
 I installed the Fedora package of wordpress and promptly created a user 
 account for myself and tried to upload a photo to my first post. The 
 upload keeps failing due to permissions problems. Wordpress wants to 
 upload (via php scripts) to
 
 /usr/share/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/09.
 
 I think I need to change /usr/share/wordpress to allow the user apache 
 group ownership:
 
 chown -R root.apache /usr/share/wordpress
 
 then give group write and execute permissions for /usr/share/wordpress 
 and all its subdirectories:
 
 chmod -R g+wx /usr/share/wordpress.
 
 Are there any Wordpress users out there with advice for me about whether 
 this makes sense?

Are you sure it can access /usr then /usr/share?
If it cannot access /usr/share first it will keep failing.

Manuel.

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Fedora compile dependence problem - resolved

2009-09-05 Thread John Nissley

On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 07:02:46 -0500, John wrote:


 I am trying to compile an application on a Fedora 11 computer I have but
 keep getting a missing dependency error when trying to install qt-devel.


Show us more of the output and the full command you entered!

The glibc-common.x86_64 that is installed on your machine is from
updates-testing. The one that Yum tries to pull in is from updates.
Did you forget to enable updates-testing when trying to install qt-devel?


 Here is the error:
 --  Processing Dependency: glibc-common = 2.10.1-4 for package:
 glibc-2.10.1-4.i686
 ---  Package nss-softokn-freebl.i586 0:3.12.3.99.3-2.11.4.fc11 set to be
 updated
 --  Finished Dependency Resolution
 glibc-2.10.1-4.i686 from updates has depsolving problems
--  Missing Dependency: glibc-common = 2.10.1-4 is needed by package
 glibc-2.10.1-4.i686 (updates)
 Error: Missing Dependency: glibc-common = 2.10.1-4 is needed by package
 glibc-2.10.1-4.i686 (updates)
   You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
   You could try running: package-cleanup --problems
  package-cleanup --dupes
  rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
 # rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigestreturns nothing
 I appear to have glibc-common installed.
 # rpm -qa | grep glibc-common
 glibc-common-2.10.1-5.x86_64




I went down that same route also. I had the fedora-updates.repo enabled so I
decieded to enable the fedora-updates-testing.repo.  I do not like to do this
but for the installation of one dependency I was hoping it would not cause a
problem. After enabling the testing repo I was able to resolve the dependency.
I have now disabled the fedora-updates-testing.repo and everything is working
fine.

Thanks for all of the suggestions that finally pushed me in the right direction.

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For hardware engineer types re: sound controlers and/or codec chips ??

2009-09-05 Thread William Case
Hi;

I am chasing down the creation or production of sound on my computer.
Everything is fitting into place after being at it, on and off, for a
couple of years.  However, there is one hardware answer I don't seem
able to chase down.

Where is the sound data kept immediately on arrival at the sound card?

Whether analog or digital; whatever the source; sound arrives at the
sound card or at on-board chip(s).  Whether the sound is in 'chunks',
'segments' or 'packets',  the sound data has to be stored somewhere on
the sound card, before being coded or decoded, or before being moved to
the DMA.

I expect that the memory requirements are small, perhaps only a few
bytes, but none-the-less, the sound card has to (I would think) store
the data somewhere before processing it and putting it in a DMA buffer.

Is my assumption about temporary, perhaps 1-2 ticks, storage accurate?

Where is this data stored?

Does the sound card itself have some small capacity for memory?  
-- SRAM or DRAM?

If so, is this storage a property or function of the sound controller or
the codec chip?

Is there a way to tell the size or nature of this memory from the
specifications, or, the hardware definitions in lshw, or,
cat /proc/asound/card*/pcm*/info?

Is, for some reason, this information propitiatory to manufacturers ?

If it is propitiatory, can you give me a best guess?

In the end, this is not a terribly important issue, other than without
an explanation, the understanding of the logic chain for hardware and
software used by sound is broken.


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Re: stream goes broken when listening to some radio

2009-09-05 Thread Antonio M
2009/9/5 jack craig ja...@linuxlighthouse.com:
 i use mplayer which in turn uses alsa audio/pulseaudio.

 i get a counter that shows cache size and does, on occasion, run dry making
 the stream stop.
 when this happens, i find a message re: audio in the /var/log/messages file.

 i suggest you look at this system log when you stream dies looking for
 explicit clues.

 then depending on what you see for a fact, decide your course of action.
 swapping kernels on a whim seems like swatting at flies with a 12 gauge...
 :-\

 FWIW, my fc10 seemed to work better, but my current fc11 has this symptom
 too.

 good luck, ...

 On 09/05/2009 08:57 AM, Antonio M wrote:

 2009/9/5 Elliott Chapinecha...@teksavvy.com:


 Oh? Guess what I'm running :)

 On 09/05/2009 10:59 AM, Antonio M wrote:


 2009/9/5 Elliott Chapinecha...@teksavvy.com:


 Perhaps the CCRMA kernel would help; it's realtime enhanced.

 On 09/05/2009 10:01 AM, Antonio M wrote:






 not available for F11, I think
 And my system was working fine until recently, I don't know if
 something happened to the stream or to some package during updates



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 I installed gecko-mediaplayer and I conencted to same radio.If I
 start it from the song ticker, I can load blocks of 17 min 53 sec and
 when each block is finished music stops and I have to re-issue a play
 (button..)
 If I start from the main page I get a counter for example of 7:53/2:08
 where 7:53 increases with time but 2:08 doesn't increase.
 I am confused




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No clues in var/log/messages but when Rhythmbox stops playing radio
stream I get in pulseaudio -vv:

I: module-device-restore.c: Storing volume/mute for device
sink:alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0.
E: alsa-sink.c: ALSA woke us up to write new data to the device, but
there was actually nothing to write!
E: alsa-sink.c: Most likely this is a bug in the ALSA driver
'snd_intel8x0'. Please report this issue to the ALSA developers.
E: alsa-sink.c: We were woken up with POLLOUT set -- however a
subsequent snd_pcm_avail() returned 0 or another value  min_avail.
I: module-device-restore.c: Synced.
D: sink-input.c: Requesting rewind due to corking
D: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0 becomes idle.
I: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0 idle for too long, suspending
...
I: alsa-sink.c: Device suspended...

what is the component to bug-file against???


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add itunes podcast feeds to rhythmbox?

2009-09-05 Thread Kevin Kempter
Hi all;

anyone know how to add itunes podcast links to rhythmbox? I tried to copy the 
link but rhythmbox doesn't like it


Also any suggestions per finding podcasts (outside of 'topic podcast' in 
google)?

Thanks in advance

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Re: For hardware engineer types re: sound controlers and/or codec chips ??

2009-09-05 Thread john wendel

On 09/05/2009 10:36 AM, William Case wrote:

Hi;

I am chasing down the creation or production of sound on my computer.
Everything is fitting into place after being at it, on and off, for a
couple of years.  However, there is one hardware answer I don't seem
able to chase down.

Where is the sound data kept immediately on arrival at the sound card?

Whether analog or digital; whatever the source; sound arrives at the
sound card or at on-board chip(s).  Whether the sound is in 'chunks',
'segments' or 'packets',  the sound data has to be stored somewhere on
the sound card, before being coded or decoded, or before being moved to
the DMA.

I expect that the memory requirements are small, perhaps only a few
bytes, but none-the-less, the sound card has to (I would think) store
the data somewhere before processing it and putting it in a DMA buffer.

Is my assumption about temporary, perhaps 1-2 ticks, storage accurate?

Where is this data stored?

Does the sound card itself have some small capacity for memory?
-- SRAM or DRAM?

If so, is this storage a property or function of the sound controller or
the codec chip?

Is there a way to tell the size or nature of this memory from the
specifications, or, the hardware definitions in lshw, or,
cat /proc/asound/card*/pcm*/info?

Is, for some reason, this information propitiatory to manufacturers ?

If it is propitiatory, can you give me a best guess?

In the end, this is not a terribly important issue, other than without
an explanation, the understanding of the logic chain for hardware and
software used by sound is broken.




Take a look here...

http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/hdaudio.htm

Regards,

John

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Re: stream goes broken when listening to some radio

2009-09-05 Thread Antonio M
2009/9/5 Antonio M antonio.montagn...@gmail.com:

 No clues in var/log/messages but when Rhythmbox stops playing radio
 stream I get in pulseaudio -vv:

 I: module-device-restore.c: Storing volume/mute for device
 sink:alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0.
 E: alsa-sink.c: ALSA woke us up to write new data to the device, but
 there was actually nothing to write!
 E: alsa-sink.c: Most likely this is a bug in the ALSA driver
 'snd_intel8x0'. Please report this issue to the ALSA developers.
 E: alsa-sink.c: We were woken up with POLLOUT set -- however a
 subsequent snd_pcm_avail() returned 0 or another value  min_avail.
 I: module-device-restore.c: Synced.
 D: sink-input.c: Requesting rewind due to corking
 D: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
 alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0 becomes idle.
 I: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
 alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0 idle for too long, suspending
 ...
 I: alsa-sink.c: Device suspended...

 what is the component to bug-file against???


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did the trick!!!


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Re: stream goes broken when listening to some radio

2009-09-05 Thread Antonio M
2009/9/5 Antonio M antonio.montagn...@gmail.com:
 2009/9/5 Antonio M antonio.montagn...@gmail.com:

 No clues in var/log/messages but when Rhythmbox stops playing radio
 stream I get in pulseaudio -vv:

 I: module-device-restore.c: Storing volume/mute for device
 sink:alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0.
 E: alsa-sink.c: ALSA woke us up to write new data to the device, but
 there was actually nothing to write!
 E: alsa-sink.c: Most likely this is a bug in the ALSA driver
 'snd_intel8x0'. Please report this issue to the ALSA developers.
 E: alsa-sink.c: We were woken up with POLLOUT set -- however a
 subsequent snd_pcm_avail() returned 0 or another value  min_avail.
 I: module-device-restore.c: Synced.
 D: sink-input.c: Requesting rewind due to corking
 D: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
 alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0 becomes idle.
 I: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
 alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0 idle for too long, suspending
 ...
 I: alsa-sink.c: Device suspended...

 what is the component to bug-file against???


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 removing tsched=0 from default.pa configuration file for pulseaudio
 did the trick!!!


 --
 removing tsched made the situation much better (more than two hours
with continuous stream) but I get these messages before interruption:
D: sink-input.c: Requesting rewind due to uncorking
D: alsa-sink.c: Requested to rewind 65536 bytes.
D: alsa-sink.c: Limited to 3700 bytes.
D: alsa-sink.c: before: 925
D: alsa-sink.c: after: 925
D: alsa-sink.c: Rewound 3700 bytes.
D: sink.c: Processing rewind...
D: source.c: Processing rewind...
D: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0 becomes busy.
D: sink-input.c: Requesting rewind due to corking
D: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0 becomes idle.
D: alsa-sink.c: Requested volume: 0:  91% 1:  91%
D: alsa-sink.c: Got hardware volume: 0:  91% 1:  91%
D: alsa-sink.c: Calculated software volume: 0:  99% 1:  99%
D: alsa-sink.c: hwbuf_unused=0
D: alsa-sink.c: setting avail_min=14179
D: alsa-sink.c: Requested to rewind 65536 bytes.
D: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0 becomes idle.
D: alsa-sink.c: Limited to 5896 bytes.
D: alsa-sink.c: before: 1474
D: core.c: Hmm, no streams around, trying to vacuum.
D: alsa-sink.c: after: 1474
D: alsa-sink.c: Rewound 5896 bytes.
D: sink.c: Processing rewind...
D: source.c: Processing rewind...
I: sink-input.c: Freeing input 10 Playback Stream
I: client.c: Freed 12 Rhythmbox Music Player
I: protocol-native.c: Connection died.
I: client.c: Created 13 Native client (UNIX socket client)
D: protocol-native.c: Protocol version: remote 15, local 15
I: protocol-native.c: Got credentials: uid=500 gid=500 success=1
D: protocol-native.c: SHM possible: yes
D: protocol-native.c: Negotiated SHM: yes
D: module-augment-properties.c: Looking for .desktop file for rhythmbox
I: module-stream-restore.c: Restoring volume for sink input
sink-input-by-media-role:music.
I: module-stream-restore.c: Restoring mute state for sink input
sink-input-by-media-role:music.
D: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0 becomes busy.
I: resampler.c: Forcing resampler 'copy', because of fixed, identical
sample rates.
I: resampler.c: Using resampler 'copy'
I: resampler.c: Using float32le as working format.
D: memblockq.c: memblockq requested: maxlength=33554432, tlength=0,
base=4, prebuf=0, minreq=1 maxrewind=0
D: memblockq.c: memblockq sanitized: maxlength=33554432,
tlength=33554432, base=4, prebuf=0, minreq=4 maxrewind=0
I: sink-input.c: Created input 11 Playback Stream on
alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0 with sample spec s32le ch 2
44100 Hz and channel map front-left,front-right
I: protocol-native.c: Requested tlength=200,00 ms, minreq=10,00 ms
D: protocol-native.c: Adjust latency mode enabled, configuring sink
latency to half of overall latency.
D: memblockq.c: memblockq requested: maxlength=141120, tlength=38808,
base=8, prebuf=0, minreq=3528 maxrewind=0
D: memblockq.c: memblockq sanitized: maxlength=141120, tlength=38808,
base=8, prebuf=0, minreq=3528 maxrewind=0
I: protocol-native.c: Final latency 200,00 ms = 90,00 ms + 2*10,00 ms + 90,00 ms
D: alsa-sink.c: Requested volume: 0:  99% 1:  99%
D: alsa-sink.c: Got hardware volume: 0: 100% 1: 100%
D: alsa-sink.c: Calculated software volume: 0:  99% 1:  99%
D: alsa-sink.c: Latency set to 90,00ms
D: alsa-sink.c: hwbuf_unused=49660
D: alsa-sink.c: setting avail_min=14180
D: alsa-sink.c: Requesting rewind due to latency change.
D: alsa-sink.c: Requested to rewind 65536 bytes.
D: alsa-sink.c: Limited to 47604 bytes.
D: alsa-sink.c: before: 11901
D: alsa-sink.c: after: 11901
D: alsa-sink.c: Rewound 47604 bytes.
D: sink.c: Processing rewind...
D: sink-input.c: Have to rewind 47604 bytes on render memblockq.
D: source.c: Processing rewind...
I: module-device-restore.c: Synced.
D: protocol-native.c: Requesting rewind due to end of underrun.
D: protocol-native.c: Requesting 

Re: For hardware engineer types re: sound controlers and/or codec chips ??

2009-09-05 Thread William Case
Thanks;

On Sat, 2009-09-05 at 13:51 -0700, john wendel wrote:
 On 09/05/2009 10:36 AM, William Case wrote:
  Hi;

 
 Take a look here...
 
 http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/hdaudio.htm
 
 Regards,
 
 John
 

It all seems to be there.  I will work my way through it -- slowly.

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Has anyonew managed to get rhythmbox to read playslist

2009-09-05 Thread Aaron Konstam
On my machine rhythmbox will not read the play list of an Audio CD. If
that works for you how to you make it work?
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OT Test

2009-09-05 Thread Kevin O'Neil
I think I have my Postfix configured wrong and now it's blocking the
fedora-list@redhat.com messages. 

Please disregard this email.

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Howto upgrade from FC10 FC11

2009-09-05 Thread Jim

I ran Preupgrade on a X86_64 from FC10  FC11, it was a flawless upgrade.

And then I did a Preupgrade on a FC10  FC11 i386 box following the 
Fedora instructions and it turn into a nightmare.
It upgraded all the packages from FC10  FC11 except for the kernel, 
after the completion  of upgrade I end up with a FC10 boot kernel and 
FC11 packages.

And it crashed on reboot.

I'm thinking of upgrading another i386 box from FC10  FC11, but this 
time after doing a yum clean all I'm thinking of just upgrading to the

fedora-release.fc11.i386.rpm's and doing a update .

Is this a good or bad ideal ??

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Cannot upgrade to F11: /usr/tmp is not a symbolic link???

2009-09-05 Thread Dan Hensley
I'm trying to upgrade my Fedora 9 system to Fedora 11 from DVD, but
right after I identify my partition, it gives me an error saying
that /usr/tmp is not a symbolic link, so please reset it to its original
state.

The problem is, /usr/tmp IS in its original state.  It was a symbolic
link pointing to /var/tmp.  But I changed it anyway to be a symbolic
link pointing to /tmp instead, and the installer is still complaining.

How do I get past this?  I've Googled but have not found any
resolutions--only one other person with a similar question, but no
answer.

Thanks,
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Re: Fedora 11 boot fails on md with two HBAs [SOLVED]

2009-09-05 Thread S Murthy Kambhampaty
Switched to dracut, which does not use kernel raid autodetect.  Works great, 
though subject to BZ 513267.




- Original Message 
From: S Murthy Kambhampaty smk...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2009 3:52:43 AM
Subject: Fedora 11 boot fails on md with two HBAs

[Fixed typo in header line, etc.; added info at end.]


With Fedora 11 on IBM x3650 M2 (x86_64), I am having problems booting after 
adding a second, add-in, SAS controller with 12 SAS disks in an external 
enclosure.  Without the add-in SAS controller, the system boots fine and 
provides file sharing over samba, etc.

The main problem with this machine is that it has an EFI BIOS which appears to 
bind the external/add-on SAS HBA before the internal one on which the system 
drives are hosted (they are both LSI SAS 3801e HBAs - the internal one has an 
IBM part number, while the external one is LSI).  Changing the BIOS order in 
the option ROMs and disabling boot services on the external/add-on HBA does not 
seem to affect the adapter binding order, and the EFI BIOS does not provide any 
mechanism for controlling this.  Which brings us to the bootup issues.

Note that after booting into rescue mode from the installer image mdadm works 
as expected, with raid arrays detected and started without any problems on the 
disks located on both controllers.  The md configuration is :

/boot is on /dev/md0 with devices  /dev/sd[mn]3, raid1
/root is on /dev/md1 with devices /dev/sd[op]1, raid1
/usr, /var and swap are on an LVM vg on /dev/md2 with devices /dev/sd[m-p]2, 
raid10
/boot/efi is on /dev/md64 with devices /dev/sd[mn]2, raid1

A separate vg for the data volume is on /dev/md127 with devices /dev/sd[a-l], 
raid6 (whole disks)

/dev/sd[m-p] are hosted on the internal HBA, and appear as /dev/sd[a-d] when 
the add-in HBA is disabled.  /dev/sd[a-l] hang of the add-in HBA.  Note that in 
rescue mode, the disks start at /dev/sdc, as I'm booting from a virtual 
console, and /dev/sda and /dev/sdb are assigned to virtual USB disks.

The problem seems to be that during bootup the raid arrays are autodetected 
rather than using mdadm.  If the raid456 module is not included in the initrd 
image, booting fails with raid6 personality not detected, when the boot process 
tries to start /dev/md1 incrementally with /dev/sda as its first member.  (This 
appears not to reference /etc/mdadm.conf in the initrd at all.)

If the raid456 module is included in the initrd image (using --with=raid456), 
booting fails with /dev/sda added incrementally to /dev/md1 and /dev/sdb added 
incrementally to /dev/md2; it appears autodetect fails because the raid device 
was built from rescue mode, so the components are listed with different letters 
in the superblock.

If I put a line in /etc/mdadm.conf in the initird image, to only scan 
partitioned disks (DEVICE /dev/sd*[1234]), boot hangs after loading the raid 
modules. (Potentially on the call to mkblkdevs after scsi_wait_scan is 
rmmod-ed.)

Partitioning /dev/sd[a-l] and setting the partition type to other than 'raid' 
does not seem to make any difference, during bootup the kernel still tries to 
assemble the root raid device (/dev/md1) from /dev/sda (though it is on 
/dev/md[op]1.

This seems to suggest that the md devices are being started by kernel raid 
autodetection rather than mdadm.  Simply switching to mdamd would likely solve 
the problem, given it works fine in rescue mode.  Alternative suggestions are 
welcome, of course.

Thanks for the help,
   Murthy


  

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Re: stream goes broken when listening to some radio

2009-09-05 Thread jack craig

how bizzare, for me, adding it fixed my issue! :)

as long as the sound is flowing, why question the gods?!

cheers, ...

On 09/05/2009 02:25 PM, Antonio M wrote:

2009/9/5 Antonio Mantonio.montagn...@gmail.com:
   

2009/9/5 Antonio Mantonio.montagn...@gmail.com:
 

No clues in var/log/messages but when Rhythmbox stops playing radio
stream I get in pulseaudio -vv:

I: module-device-restore.c: Storing volume/mute for device
sink:alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0.
E: alsa-sink.c: ALSA woke us up to write new data to the device, but
there was actually nothing to write!
E: alsa-sink.c: Most likely this is a bug in the ALSA driver
'snd_intel8x0'. Please report this issue to the ALSA developers.
E: alsa-sink.c: We were woken up with POLLOUT set -- however a
subsequent snd_pcm_avail() returned 0 or another value  min_avail.
I: module-device-restore.c: Synced.
D: sink-input.c: Requesting rewind due to corking
D: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0 becomes idle.
I: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0 idle for too long, suspending
...
I: alsa-sink.c: Device suspended...

what is the component to bug-file against???


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did the trick!!!


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  removing tsched made the situation much better (more than two hours
with continuous stream) but I get these messages before interruption:
D: sink-input.c: Requesting rewind due to uncorking
D: alsa-sink.c: Requested to rewind 65536 bytes.
D: alsa-sink.c: Limited to 3700 bytes.
D: alsa-sink.c: before: 925
D: alsa-sink.c: after: 925
D: alsa-sink.c: Rewound 3700 bytes.
D: sink.c: Processing rewind...
D: source.c: Processing rewind...
D: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0 becomes busy.
D: sink-input.c: Requesting rewind due to corking
D: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0 becomes idle.
D: alsa-sink.c: Requested volume: 0:  91% 1:  91%
D: alsa-sink.c: Got hardware volume: 0:  91% 1:  91%
D: alsa-sink.c: Calculated software volume: 0:  99% 1:  99%
D: alsa-sink.c: hwbuf_unused=0
D: alsa-sink.c: setting avail_min=14179
D: alsa-sink.c: Requested to rewind 65536 bytes.
D: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0 becomes idle.
D: alsa-sink.c: Limited to 5896 bytes.
D: alsa-sink.c: before: 1474
D: core.c: Hmm, no streams around, trying to vacuum.
D: alsa-sink.c: after: 1474
D: alsa-sink.c: Rewound 5896 bytes.
D: sink.c: Processing rewind...
D: source.c: Processing rewind...
I: sink-input.c: Freeing input 10 Playback Stream
I: client.c: Freed 12 Rhythmbox Music Player
I: protocol-native.c: Connection died.
I: client.c: Created 13 Native client (UNIX socket client)
D: protocol-native.c: Protocol version: remote 15, local 15
I: protocol-native.c: Got credentials: uid=500 gid=500 success=1
D: protocol-native.c: SHM possible: yes
D: protocol-native.c: Negotiated SHM: yes
D: module-augment-properties.c: Looking for .desktop file for rhythmbox
I: module-stream-restore.c: Restoring volume for sink input
sink-input-by-media-role:music.
I: module-stream-restore.c: Restoring mute state for sink input
sink-input-by-media-role:music.
D: module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink
alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0 becomes busy.
I: resampler.c: Forcing resampler 'copy', because of fixed, identical
sample rates.
I: resampler.c: Using resampler 'copy'
I: resampler.c: Using float32le as working format.
D: memblockq.c: memblockq requested: maxlength=33554432, tlength=0,
base=4, prebuf=0, minreq=1 maxrewind=0
D: memblockq.c: memblockq sanitized: maxlength=33554432,
tlength=33554432, base=4, prebuf=0, minreq=4 maxrewind=0
I: sink-input.c: Created input 11 Playback Stream on
alsa_output.pci_8086_24d5_sound_card_0 with sample spec s32le ch 2
44100 Hz and channel map front-left,front-right
I: protocol-native.c: Requested tlength=200,00 ms, minreq=10,00 ms
D: protocol-native.c: Adjust latency mode enabled, configuring sink
latency to half of overall latency.
D: memblockq.c: memblockq requested: maxlength=141120, tlength=38808,
base=8, prebuf=0, minreq=3528 maxrewind=0
D: memblockq.c: memblockq sanitized: maxlength=141120, tlength=38808,
base=8, prebuf=0, minreq=3528 maxrewind=0
I: protocol-native.c: Final latency 200,00 ms = 90,00 ms + 2*10,00 ms + 90,00 ms
D: alsa-sink.c: Requested volume: 0:  99% 1:  99%
D: alsa-sink.c: Got hardware volume: 0: 100% 1: 100%
D: alsa-sink.c: Calculated software volume: 0:  99% 1:  99%
D: alsa-sink.c: Latency set to 90,00ms
D: alsa-sink.c: hwbuf_unused=49660
D: alsa-sink.c: setting avail_min=14180
D: alsa-sink.c: Requesting rewind due to latency change.
D: alsa-sink.c: Requested to rewind 65536 bytes.
D: alsa-sink.c: Limited to 47604 bytes.
D: alsa-sink.c: before: 11901
D: alsa-sink.c: after: 11901
D: alsa-sink.c: Rewound 47604 bytes.
D: sink.c: Processing rewind...
D: sink-input.c: Have to rewind 47604 bytes on render memblockq.

Re: Cannot upgrade to F11: /usr/tmp is not a symbolic link???

2009-09-05 Thread Tony Nelson
On 09-09-05 19:05:48, Dan Hensley wrote:
 I'm trying to upgrade my Fedora 9 system to Fedora 11 from DVD, but
 right after I identify my partition, it gives me an error saying
 that /usr/tmp is not a symbolic link, so please reset it to its
 original
 state.
 
 The problem is, /usr/tmp IS in its original state.  It was a symbolic
 link pointing to /var/tmp.  But I changed it anyway to be a symbolic
 link pointing to /tmp instead, and the installer is still 
 complaining.
 
 How do I get past this?  I've Googled but have not found any
 resolutions--only one other person with a similar question, but no
 answer.

WAG:  permissions?  owner?

# ll -d /usr/tmp
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 10 2009-07-28 07:31 /usr/tmp - ../var/tmp

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Re: Cannot upgrade to F11: /usr/tmp is not a symbolic link???

2009-09-05 Thread Mike Wright

Tony Nelson wrote:

On 09-09-05 19:05:48, Dan Hensley wrote:

I'm trying to upgrade my Fedora 9 system to Fedora 11 from DVD, but
right after I identify my partition, it gives me an error saying
that /usr/tmp is not a symbolic link, so please reset it to its
original
state.

The problem is, /usr/tmp IS in its original state.  It was a symbolic
link pointing to /var/tmp.  But I changed it anyway to be a symbolic
link pointing to /tmp instead, and the installer is still 
complaining.


How do I get past this?  I've Googled but have not found any
resolutions--only one other person with a similar question, but no
answer.


WAG:  permissions?  owner?

# ll -d /usr/tmp
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 10 2009-07-28 07:31 /usr/tmp - ../var/tmp


shouldn't that be ../../var/tmp  ?

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Re: Cannot upgrade to F11: /usr/tmp is not a symbolic link???

2009-09-05 Thread Todd Zullinger
Mike Wright wrote:
# ll -d /usr/tmp
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 10 2009-07-28 07:31 /usr/tmp - ../var/tmp

 shouldn't that be ../../var/tmp  ?

Why?  When you're in /usr, it's only one .. to get to /var.

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Re: Cannot upgrade to F11: /usr/tmp is not a symbolic link???

2009-09-05 Thread Mike Wright

Todd Zullinger wrote:

Mike Wright wrote:

# ll -d /usr/tmp
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 10 2009-07-28 07:31 /usr/tmp - ../var/tmp

shouldn't that be ../../var/tmp  ?


Why?  When you're in /usr, it's only one .. to get to /var.


my bad.  don't know what I wasn't thinking ;)  thnx

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Re: Cannot upgrade to F11: /usr/tmp is not a symbolic link???

2009-09-05 Thread Dan Hensley
On Sat, 2009-09-05 at 22:01 -0400, Tony Nelson wrote:
 On 09-09-05 19:05:48, Dan Hensley wrote:
  I'm trying to upgrade my Fedora 9 system to Fedora 11 from DVD, but
  right after I identify my partition, it gives me an error saying
  that /usr/tmp is not a symbolic link, so please reset it to its
  original
  state.
  
  The problem is, /usr/tmp IS in its original state.  It was a symbolic
  link pointing to /var/tmp.  But I changed it anyway to be a symbolic
  link pointing to /tmp instead, and the installer is still 
  complaining.
  
  How do I get past this?  I've Googled but have not found any
  resolutions--only one other person with a similar question, but no
  answer.
 
 WAG:  permissions?  owner?
 
 # ll -d /usr/tmp
 lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 10 2009-07-28 07:31 /usr/tmp - ../var/tmp


Here's mine (I recreated the original link again):

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 2009-09-05 17:11 /usr/tmp - /var/tmp

So it seems that permissions isn't the issue.  Strange thing is, I've
never messed with this link.  I suspect the installer is just printing
the wrong error message.

Dan

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Re: Cannot upgrade to F11: /usr/tmp is not a symbolic link???

2009-09-05 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 09/05/2009 10:19 PM, Dan Hensley wrote:

 Here's mine (I recreated the original link again):
 
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 2009-09-05 17:11 /usr/tmp - /var/tmp

No, the link needs to be relative!  When anaconda runs, it mounts your
root filesystem under its own.  If you have any absolute links, the will
point to anaconda's filesystem instead of yours!

 So it seems that permissions isn't the issue.  Strange thing is, I've
 never messed with this link.  I suspect the installer is just printing
 the wrong error message.

Its not the installer, fix your link.

 Dan

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Re: stream goes broken when listening to some radio

2009-09-05 Thread Antonio M
2009/9/6 jack craig ja...@linuxlighthouse.com:
 how bizzare, for me, adding it fixed my issue! :)

 as long as the sound is flowing, why question the gods?!

 cheers, ...


jack

removing tsched=0 made Rhythmbox work for more than two hours, but the
issue is still there, now I am testing on a different hardware of my
notebook.
I guess that the component to file against is alsa-lib, not sure anyway

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Re: Fedora Insight Zikula on pt6 Is About To Be Upgraded

2009-09-05 Thread Mel Chua

On 09/04/2009 04:40 PM, Affix wrote:

Zikula Upgraded to Zikula 1.1.2


Wow - and the skin's back up on there as well (as a checkout from an SVN 
repository, svnfedora-zikula-theme, w00t)! Thanks, Keiran - this is 
fantastic.


Do the instructions on 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_set_up_a_Zikula_sandbox still 
work, or is there anything we need to do to edit them to reflect the 
install process for 1.1.2?


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Re: CC BY-SA announcement drafts (also: holy crap ian did something!)

2009-09-05 Thread Mel Chua

On 09/04/2009 07:57 PM, Karsten Wade wrote:

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 04:34:39PM -0500, Ian Weller wrote:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ianweller/Creative_Commons_press_release



Marketing might want to add some fluff, which is OK, too.


Marketing fluff added. ;)

How is this press release getting released, when, and where-to? Sorry I 
haven't been able to keep up with this discussion previously.


Specifically, I added:

* The standard this is a press release! headers (FOR IMMEDIATE 
RELEASE, location/date before the body text)


* A headline (Fedora Project relicenses content to CC-BY-SA)

* A boilerplate snip of org info at the bottom, yanked from 
http://fedoraproject.org/ (do we have a more official one to use for 
press releases? I couldn't find one.)


* A shiny quote from Ian (this just in from IRC)

* A contact info section

* ### at the bottom, which is PRspeak for end of press release

(For an example of what a professional press release looks like, see 
http://www.redhat.com/about/news/prarchive/2009/fedora11.html - you'll 
see all these elements in there.)


It still needs:

* filling in of contact information at the bottom - Marketing folks, how 
we want to handle press releases is probably something we want to figure 
out in general at some point.


* copyediting (I suck at making sure spelling/grammar/etc is 100% 
correct; my quick pass usually gets things to 90-95%)


* more nice quotes, perhaps from Sparks or quaid or stickster - 
something like... This relicensing effort will enable us to 
$list_of_awesomeness, we'd like to thank $these_people, said $name, 
$impressive-sounding-title. $shiny_media_soundbite!


Docs folks, if you want more help with this, can you shoot us a ticket 
(https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/newticket) and summarize this 
email thread in the comments so that we have a bit of context?


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Re: Save time on downloads with delta RPMs in Fedora 11

2009-09-05 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 08:56:35PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 Hi
 
 http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/opensource/?p=904
 
 Fedora 11 introduced a great new feature: delta RPM updates. This
 feature creates delta RPM packages (.drpm) that are binary “patches” to
 the existing RPM packages. Instead of downloading all files, regardless
 of whether they have changed or not, a delta RPM will only download the
 files that have changed compared to the previous RPM package.
 
 Once the delta RPM is downloaded by the Presto plugin for yum, it will
 try to reconstruct a full RPM based on the contents of the previous RPM,
 plus the newly changed files from the delta RPM. The newly-created RPM
 will then be installed by yum.

I think it would be fair and right for us to note in interviews or
followup that the deltaRPM code comes from our friends in the openSUSE
community.  Credit where credit is definitely due!

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Re: Save time on downloads with delta RPMs in Fedora 11

2009-09-05 Thread Andrew Jamison
OpenSUSE created the deltarpm? I did not know that! Thanks for that small 
but very important tidbit of information Paul!



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Subject: Re: Save time on downloads with delta RPMs in Fedora 11


On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 08:56:35PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

Hi

http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/opensource/?p=904

Fedora 11 introduced a great new feature: delta RPM updates. This
feature creates delta RPM packages (.drpm) that are binary “patches” to
the existing RPM packages. Instead of downloading all files, regardless
of whether they have changed or not, a delta RPM will only download the
files that have changed compared to the previous RPM package.

Once the delta RPM is downloaded by the Presto plugin for yum, it will
try to reconstruct a full RPM based on the contents of the previous RPM,
plus the newly changed files from the delta RPM. The newly-created RPM
will then be installed by yum.


I think it would be fair and right for us to note in interviews or
followup that the deltaRPM code comes from our friends in the openSUSE
community.  Credit where credit is definitely due!

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Re: Fedora print magazine proposal from Linux Pro Magazine

2009-09-05 Thread inode0
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Max Spevackmspev...@redhat.com wrote:
 [Trimming the recipient list down a little bit.]

 *** AMBASSADORS: PLEASE READ THIS EMAIL ***

 Linux Pro Magazine (LPM) has proposed to make a special Fedora print issue
 for F12 - thousands of magazines out on newsstands internationally with an
 F12 DVD tucked inside. This would be very, very cool. We're trying to figure
 out whether this is possible, whether we should do it, and (if both of those
 are yes), how the balance of work would be distributed between the Fedora
 community (perhaps with help from the Red Hat Brand team) and LPM.

Does anyone know the circulation or sales numbers. How many
thousands would get distributed via LPM?

 We'd love your thoughts and feedback. This is moving quite rapidly (it
 first came up on Wednesday afternoon; we need to give a yes or no for F12
 next week), so I've summarized the current state of things on a project page
 at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_print_magazine.

 There are a few points that I'd like to add to this discussion.

 (1) Nothing has been decided yet -- as a collective, we need to think about
 the ideas presented by LPM, as well as the timeline that we would have to
 operate under, the content that we would need to produce, etc.

 (2) There is a price tag associated with this project, that (if we say yes
 to it) will require us to get a bit clever with the way we plan for Fedora
 12 media, especially in North America and Europe (where the magazine is
 published).

 If we say yes to this overall deal, it will get us three things:

 + Magazines (including the 32-bit DVD) on sale at news-stands and bookstores
 in North America and Europe

 + 1,000 magazines (including DVD) shipped directly to the Fedora Project,
 that we can do with as we choose.

 + 8,000 DVDs shipped directly to the Fedora Project, that we can do with as
 we choose.

 That means 9,000 DVDS (and 1,000 magazines) that we would probably use as
 the VAST MAJORITY of our media during the Fedora 12 cycle.

These will all be 32 bit DVDs, right?

 We would probably *not* produce a large quantity of separate LiveCDs, which
 has been the habit for the past several releases.

While these are still popular I really think we might be able to
substitute more USB sticks at major events as we move forward. Big
events seem to always have vendors giving away USB sticks and with
some advertising at these events we could make these bootable easily
enough for folks who would like the live image. Or we could give them
the live image on the stick for them to make their own CD with. Or in
North America they likely can download it quickly anyway.

 Furthermore, the DVDs would come in plain white sleeves (not Fedora-designed
 sleeves), and the artwork on the face of the DVD would be Fedora-related,
 but would also have the Linux Pro Magazine logo on it.

This doesn't bother me much if the distribution through the magazine is large.
Assuming the distribution is large my instincts are in favor of doing
this even if it limits what media we end up distributing ourselves for
one cycle. We presumably can save some funds for other uses, a good
thing, and perhaps will learn something about alternatives available
to us that we aren't yet effectively using for distribution.

John

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[Bug 521363] New: Request upgrade of perl-Mail-IMAPClient

2009-09-05 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: Request upgrade of perl-Mail-IMAPClient

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=521363

   Summary: Request upgrade of perl-Mail-IMAPClient
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
  Platform: All
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
  Severity: medium
  Priority: low
 Component: perl-Mail-IMAPClient
AssignedTo: tcall...@redhat.com
ReportedBy: n...@fedoraproject.org
 QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: tcall...@redhat.com, fedora-perl-devel-list@redhat.com
Classification: Fedora


I'd like to request that perl-Mail-IMAPClient be upgraded in Fedora and EPEL to
at least 3.19.  This is because imapsync requires version 3.19 or higher of
perl-Mail-IMAPClient.  (3.20 is the current version of the perl module)

Thanks!

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rpms/perl-DBIx-Class-EncodedColumn/devel .cvsignore, 1.3, 1.4 perl-DBIx-Class-EncodedColumn.spec, 1.4, 1.5 sources, 1.3, 1.4

2009-09-05 Thread Iain Arnell
Author: iarnell

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-DBIx-Class-EncodedColumn/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv2496

Modified Files:
.cvsignore perl-DBIx-Class-EncodedColumn.spec sources 
Log Message:
* Sat Sep 05 2009 Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com 0.4-1
- update to latest upstream (minor documentation fix)



Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-DBIx-Class-EncodedColumn/devel/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.3
retrieving revision 1.4
diff -u -p -r1.3 -r1.4
--- .cvsignore  2 Sep 2009 03:58:46 -   1.3
+++ .cvsignore  5 Sep 2009 08:33:30 -   1.4
@@ -1 +1 @@
-DBIx-Class-EncodedColumn-0.3.tar.gz
+DBIx-Class-EncodedColumn-0.4.tar.gz


Index: perl-DBIx-Class-EncodedColumn.spec
===
RCS file: 
/cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-DBIx-Class-EncodedColumn/devel/perl-DBIx-Class-EncodedColumn.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.4
retrieving revision 1.5
diff -u -p -r1.4 -r1.5
--- perl-DBIx-Class-EncodedColumn.spec  2 Sep 2009 03:58:46 -   1.4
+++ perl-DBIx-Class-EncodedColumn.spec  5 Sep 2009 08:33:31 -   1.5
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 Name:   perl-DBIx-Class-EncodedColumn
-Version:0.3
+Version:0.4
 Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:Automatically encode columns
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
@@ -56,6 +56,9 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Sat Sep 05 2009 Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com 0.4-1
+- update to latest upstream (minor documentation fix)
+
 * Wed Sep 02 2009 Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com 0.3-1
 - update to latest upstream (copyright notice added)
 - remove temporary BRs due to BZ #499768


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-DBIx-Class-EncodedColumn/devel/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.3
retrieving revision 1.4
diff -u -p -r1.3 -r1.4
--- sources 2 Sep 2009 03:58:46 -   1.3
+++ sources 5 Sep 2009 08:33:31 -   1.4
@@ -1 +1 @@
-3a2613af1c10219654150b59f076a620  DBIx-Class-EncodedColumn-0.3.tar.gz
+4dc99811f29f054bdfd526735bcbc357  DBIx-Class-EncodedColumn-0.4.tar.gz

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[Bug 520505] Spurious dependency on perl(Test::More)

2009-09-05 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520505





--- Comment #9 from Stepan Kasal ska...@redhat.com  2009-09-05 08:06:05 EDT 
---
(In reply to comment #8)
 Yes, there are exceptions and _sometimes_ packaging the test suites or parts 
 of
 them might be beneficial. [...] document a good rationale for including that 
 stuff

Sounds fair, tests should not be packed by default.

But I'd like to comment some of your reasons:

 if upstream docs aren't good enough it'd be better to let upstream know about
 that and ask them to improve things so more people would benefit; etc.

Sure, it is necessary to report the problem, if upstream does not know or
underestiomates its importance.  But then, packing the tests is a good
temporary aid until sufficient documentation becomes available.

 [...] kind of encourages bad practices such as
 mentioned by Chris in his mail referred to in comment 2 (installing packages 
 in
 system locations and _then_ after the fact thinking about running test 
 suites);

Generally, tests can be run on uninstalled software, or after instalation. 
Ideally, both kind of tests are performed; this can often be done by rerunning
the same test suite.  (GNU Coding Standards define two make targets: check
and installcheck.)  rpm's %check does test uninnstalled software, but the
spec files have no way to describe tests on installed program.

There are situations when the tests cannot be run from the spec file, e.g.,
because they require GUI or because they require a running database server.

You seem to imply that enabling install time checking somehow discourages
proper use of build time testing.  I cannot agree with that.

If the tests cannot be (fully) performed at build time, it is useful to pack
them, so that the user has chance to run them before deploying the module.

Again, this reason justifies packing tests only as a temporary aid, because
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/FullyTestablePerl would render this type
of reasoning irrelevant.

To sum up, if tests are packed, comment should contain a reason, e.g.:
- the tests show example usage, supplementing incomplete documentation
- the tests cannot be fully performed at build time because of xyxz

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rpms/perl-ExtUtils-XSpp/devel perl-ExtUtils-XSpp.spec, NONE, 1.1 .cvsignore, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.1, 1.2

2009-09-05 Thread Štěpán Kasal
Author: kasal

Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-ExtUtils-XSpp/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv32337/devel

Modified Files:
.cvsignore sources 
Added Files:
perl-ExtUtils-XSpp.spec 
Log Message:
Initial import (#518637).



--- NEW FILE perl-ExtUtils-XSpp.spec ---
Name:   perl-ExtUtils-XSpp
Version:0.04
Release:2%{?dist}
Summary:C++ variant of Perl's XS language
License:GPL+ or Artistic
Group:  Development/Libraries
URL:http://search.cpan.org/dist/ExtUtils-XSpp/
Source0:
http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/S/SM/SMUELLER/ExtUtils-XSpp-%{version}.tar.gz
BuildRoot:  %(mktemp -ud %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-XX)
BuildArch:  noarch
BuildRequires:  perl(Module::Build)
BuildRequires:  perl(Test::Base)
BuildRequires:  perl(Test::Differences)
Requires:   perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_%(eval `%{__perl} -V:version`; echo 
$version))

%description
ExtUtils::XSpp handles the XS++ language, used to create an extension interface
between Perl and C++ code/library.

%prep
%setup -q -n ExtUtils-XSpp-%{version}

%build
%{__perl} Build.PL installdirs=vendor
./Build

%install
rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT

./Build install destdir=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT create_packlist=0
find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -depth -type d -empty -exec rmdir {} \;

%{_fixperms} $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/*

%check
./Build test

%clean
rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT

%files
%defattr(-,root,root,-)
%doc Changes README XSP.yp
%{_bindir}/xspp
%{perl_vendorlib}/ExtUtils*
%{_mandir}/man?/*

%changelog
* Tue Aug 25 2009 Stepan Kasal ska...@redhat.com 0.04-2
- follow suggestions from Parag's review

* Fri Aug 21 2009 Stepan Kasal ska...@redhat.com 0.04-1
- Specfile created from a one autogenerated by cpanspec 1.78.


Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-ExtUtils-XSpp/devel/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -p -r1.1 -r1.2
--- .cvsignore  26 Aug 2009 22:22:46 -  1.1
+++ .cvsignore  5 Sep 2009 12:31:57 -   1.2
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+ExtUtils-XSpp-0.04.tar.gz


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-ExtUtils-XSpp/devel/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -p -r1.1 -r1.2
--- sources 26 Aug 2009 22:22:46 -  1.1
+++ sources 5 Sep 2009 12:31:57 -   1.2
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+cfb4f2a2cf079fe675fdf9ea5ee61e64  ExtUtils-XSpp-0.04.tar.gz

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rpms/perl-Mail-IMAPClient/devel .cvsignore, 1.5, 1.6 perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec, 1.9, 1.10 sources, 1.5, 1.6

2009-09-05 Thread Štěpán Kasal
Author: kasal

Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-Mail-IMAPClient/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv10150

Modified Files:
.cvsignore perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec sources 
Log Message:
new upstream version


Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-Mail-IMAPClient/devel/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.5
retrieving revision 1.6
diff -u -p -r1.5 -r1.6
--- .cvsignore  13 Mar 2009 20:44:53 -  1.5
+++ .cvsignore  5 Sep 2009 13:13:01 -   1.6
@@ -1 +1 @@
-Mail-IMAPClient-3.14.tar.gz
+Mail-IMAPClient-3.20.tar.gz


Index: perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec
===
RCS file: 
/cvs/extras/rpms/perl-Mail-IMAPClient/devel/perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.9
retrieving revision 1.10
diff -u -p -r1.9 -r1.10
--- perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec   26 Jul 2009 09:07:40 -  1.9
+++ perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec   5 Sep 2009 13:13:01 -   1.10
@@ -1,11 +1,11 @@
 Name:   perl-Mail-IMAPClient
-Version:3.14
-Release:2%{?dist}
+Version:3.20
+Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:An IMAP Client API
 Group:  Development/Libraries
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
 URL:http://search.cpan.org/dist/Mail-IMAPClient/
-Source0:
http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/M/MA/MARKOV/Mail-IMAPClient-%{version}.tar.gz
+Source0:
http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/P/PL/PLOBBES/Mail-IMAPClient-%{version}.tar.gz
 BuildRoot:  %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n)
 BuildRequires:  perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker), perl(IO::Socket), perl(constant), 
perl(Socket)
 BuildRequires:  perl(IO::File), perl(IO::Select), perl(Fcntl), perl(Errno), 
perl(Carp)
@@ -19,20 +19,18 @@ to and an IMAP conversation with an IMAP
 
 %prep
 %setup -q -n Mail-IMAPClient-%{version}
+sed -i 's#/usr/local/bin/perl#/usr/bin/perl#' examples/*.pl
 
 %build
+# the extended tests cannot be run without an IMAP server
 yes n | %{__perl} Makefile.PL INSTALLDIRS=vendor
 make
 
 %install
 rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 make pure_install PERL_INSTALL_ROOT=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT
-find examples -type f -exec chmod -x {} 2/dev/null ';'
-find examples -type f -exec sed -i 's#/usr/local/bin/perl#/usr/bin/perl#' {} 
2/dev/null ';'
 find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -type f -name .packlist -exec rm -f {} ';'
-find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -depth -type d -exec rmdir {} 2/dev/null ';'
 chmod -R u+w $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/*
-chmod -x $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{perl_vendorlib}/Mail/IMAPClient/BodyStructure.pm
 
 %check
 make test
@@ -47,6 +45,9 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 %{_mandir}/man3/*.3*
 
 %changelog
+* Sat Sep  5 2009 Stepan Kasal ska...@redhat.com - 3.20-1
+- new upstream source
+
 * Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 3.14-2
 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
 


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-Mail-IMAPClient/devel/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.5
retrieving revision 1.6
diff -u -p -r1.5 -r1.6
--- sources 13 Mar 2009 20:44:53 -  1.5
+++ sources 5 Sep 2009 13:13:01 -   1.6
@@ -1 +1 @@
-bd099eda25cc0cc44e1cecf3f7f22a79  Mail-IMAPClient-3.14.tar.gz
+bc5220b5540e4103f2111c94dcb1c938  Mail-IMAPClient-3.20.tar.gz

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rpms/perl-Wx/devel .cvsignore, 1.20, 1.21 perl-Wx.spec, 1.34, 1.35 sources, 1.20, 1.21

2009-09-05 Thread Štěpán Kasal
Author: kasal

Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-Wx/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv10463

Modified Files:
.cvsignore perl-Wx.spec sources 
Log Message:
new upstream version


Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-Wx/devel/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.20
retrieving revision 1.21
diff -u -p -r1.20 -r1.21
--- .cvsignore  3 Jun 2009 14:23:37 -   1.20
+++ .cvsignore  5 Sep 2009 13:13:42 -   1.21
@@ -1 +1 @@
-Wx-0.91.tar.gz
+Wx-0.92.tar.gz


Index: perl-Wx.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-Wx/devel/perl-Wx.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.34
retrieving revision 1.35
diff -u -p -r1.34 -r1.35
--- perl-Wx.spec25 Aug 2009 13:29:20 -  1.34
+++ perl-Wx.spec5 Sep 2009 13:13:42 -   1.35
@@ -5,8 +5,8 @@
 #
 
 Name:   perl-Wx
-Version:0.91
-Release:8%{?dist}
+Version:0.92
+Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:Interface to the wxWidgets cross-platform GUI toolkit
 
 Group:  Development/Libraries
@@ -19,6 +19,7 @@ BuildRequires:  wxGTK-devel
 BuildRequires:  perl(Alien::wxWidgets) = 0.25
 BuildRequires:  perl(Data::Dumper)
 BuildRequires:  perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker) = 6.21
+BuildRequires:  perl(ExtUtils::XSpp)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Module::Info)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Test::More), perl(Test::Harness)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Test::Pod)
@@ -95,6 +96,9 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 
 
 %changelog
+* Sat Sep  5 2009 Stepan Kasal ska...@redhat.com - 0.92-1
+- new upstream version
+
 * Thu Aug 20 2009 Stepan Kasal ska...@redhat.com - 0.91-8
 - rebuild with perl-Alien-wxWidgets-0.44-2
 


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-Wx/devel/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.20
retrieving revision 1.21
diff -u -p -r1.20 -r1.21
--- sources 3 Jun 2009 14:23:37 -   1.20
+++ sources 5 Sep 2009 13:13:42 -   1.21
@@ -1 +1 @@
-415318d84c0c6dc69dcf760c0d8bc3ba  Wx-0.91.tar.gz
+273a8770f290a66026bf6ea15060b6ae  Wx-0.92.tar.gz

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rpms/perl-Mail-IMAPClient/EL-4 perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec, 1.2, 1.3 sources, 1.2, 1.3

2009-09-05 Thread Tom Callaway
Author: spot

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Mail-IMAPClient/EL-4
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv16306/EL-4

Modified Files:
perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec sources 
Log Message:
bump to 3.20


Index: perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Mail-IMAPClient/EL-4/perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.2
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -u -p -r1.2 -r1.3
--- perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec   26 Aug 2007 16:30:32 -  1.2
+++ perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec   5 Sep 2009 13:32:28 -   1.3
@@ -1,11 +1,11 @@
 Name:   perl-Mail-IMAPClient
-Version:2.2.9
-Release:4%{?dist}
+Version:3.20
+Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:An IMAP Client API
 Group:  Development/Libraries
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
 URL:http://search.cpan.org/dist/Mail-IMAPClient/
-Source0:
http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/D/DJ/DJKERNEN/Mail-IMAPClient-%{version}.tar.gz
+Source0:
http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/P/PL/PLOBBES/Mail-IMAPClient-%{version}.tar.gz
 BuildRoot:  %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n)
 BuildRequires:  perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker), perl(IO::Socket), perl(constant), 
perl(Socket)
 BuildRequires:  perl(IO::File), perl(IO::Select), perl(Fcntl), perl(Errno), 
perl(Carp)
@@ -19,20 +19,18 @@ to and an IMAP conversation with an IMAP
 
 %prep
 %setup -q -n Mail-IMAPClient-%{version}
+sed -i 's#/usr/local/bin/perl#/usr/bin/perl#' examples/*.pl
 
 %build
+# the extended tests cannot be run without an IMAP server
 yes n | %{__perl} Makefile.PL INSTALLDIRS=vendor
 make
 
 %install
 rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 make pure_install PERL_INSTALL_ROOT=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT
-find examples -type f -exec chmod -x {} 2/dev/null ';'
-find examples -type f -exec sed -i 's#/usr/local/bin/perl#/usr/bin/perl#' {} 
2/dev/null ';'
 find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -type f -name .packlist -exec rm -f {} ';'
-find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -depth -type d -exec rmdir {} 2/dev/null ';'
 chmod -R u+w $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/*
-chmod -x $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{perl_vendorlib}/Mail/IMAPClient/BodyStructure.pm
 
 %check
 make test
@@ -42,11 +40,35 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 
 %files
 %defattr(-,root,root,-)
-%doc docs/ examples/
+%doc Changes COPYRIGHT README examples/
 %{perl_vendorlib}/Mail/
 %{_mandir}/man3/*.3*
 
 %changelog
+* Sat Sep  5 2009 Stepan Kasal ska...@redhat.com - 3.20-1
+- new upstream source
+
+* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 3.14-2
+- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
+
+* Fri Mar 13 2009 Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com - 3.14-1
+- update to 3.14
+
+* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 3.08-2
+- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
+
+* Mon Jul 21 2008 Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com - 3.08-1
+- 3.08
+
+* Tue Mar 11 2008 Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com - 3.05-1
+- 3.05
+
+* Wed Feb 27 2008 Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com - 2.2.9-6
+- Rebuild for perl 5.10 (again)
+
+* Mon Jan 28 2008 Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com - 2.2.9-5
+- rebuild for new perl
+
 * Sun Aug 26 2007 Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com - 2.2.9-4
 - license tag fix
 


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Mail-IMAPClient/EL-4/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.2
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -u -p -r1.2 -r1.3
--- sources 13 Apr 2007 19:41:52 -  1.2
+++ sources 5 Sep 2009 13:32:28 -   1.3
@@ -1 +1 @@
-21c1901d55a2d57f73840cad478c665d  Mail-IMAPClient-2.2.9.tar.gz
+bc5220b5540e4103f2111c94dcb1c938  Mail-IMAPClient-3.20.tar.gz

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rpms/perl-Mail-IMAPClient/EL-5 perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec, 1.2, 1.3 sources, 1.2, 1.3

2009-09-05 Thread Tom Callaway
Author: spot

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Mail-IMAPClient/EL-5
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv16306/EL-5

Modified Files:
perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec sources 
Log Message:
bump to 3.20


Index: perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Mail-IMAPClient/EL-5/perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.2
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -u -p -r1.2 -r1.3
--- perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec   26 Aug 2007 16:30:35 -  1.2
+++ perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec   5 Sep 2009 13:32:28 -   1.3
@@ -1,11 +1,11 @@
 Name:   perl-Mail-IMAPClient
-Version:2.2.9
-Release:4%{?dist}
+Version:3.20
+Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:An IMAP Client API
 Group:  Development/Libraries
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
 URL:http://search.cpan.org/dist/Mail-IMAPClient/
-Source0:
http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/D/DJ/DJKERNEN/Mail-IMAPClient-%{version}.tar.gz
+Source0:
http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/P/PL/PLOBBES/Mail-IMAPClient-%{version}.tar.gz
 BuildRoot:  %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n)
 BuildRequires:  perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker), perl(IO::Socket), perl(constant), 
perl(Socket)
 BuildRequires:  perl(IO::File), perl(IO::Select), perl(Fcntl), perl(Errno), 
perl(Carp)
@@ -19,20 +19,18 @@ to and an IMAP conversation with an IMAP
 
 %prep
 %setup -q -n Mail-IMAPClient-%{version}
+sed -i 's#/usr/local/bin/perl#/usr/bin/perl#' examples/*.pl
 
 %build
+# the extended tests cannot be run without an IMAP server
 yes n | %{__perl} Makefile.PL INSTALLDIRS=vendor
 make
 
 %install
 rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 make pure_install PERL_INSTALL_ROOT=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT
-find examples -type f -exec chmod -x {} 2/dev/null ';'
-find examples -type f -exec sed -i 's#/usr/local/bin/perl#/usr/bin/perl#' {} 
2/dev/null ';'
 find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -type f -name .packlist -exec rm -f {} ';'
-find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -depth -type d -exec rmdir {} 2/dev/null ';'
 chmod -R u+w $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/*
-chmod -x $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{perl_vendorlib}/Mail/IMAPClient/BodyStructure.pm
 
 %check
 make test
@@ -42,11 +40,35 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 
 %files
 %defattr(-,root,root,-)
-%doc docs/ examples/
+%doc Changes COPYRIGHT README examples/
 %{perl_vendorlib}/Mail/
 %{_mandir}/man3/*.3*
 
 %changelog
+* Sat Sep  5 2009 Stepan Kasal ska...@redhat.com - 3.20-1
+- new upstream source
+
+* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 3.14-2
+- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
+
+* Fri Mar 13 2009 Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com - 3.14-1
+- update to 3.14
+
+* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 3.08-2
+- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
+
+* Mon Jul 21 2008 Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com - 3.08-1
+- 3.08
+
+* Tue Mar 11 2008 Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com - 3.05-1
+- 3.05
+
+* Wed Feb 27 2008 Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com - 2.2.9-6
+- Rebuild for perl 5.10 (again)
+
+* Mon Jan 28 2008 Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com - 2.2.9-5
+- rebuild for new perl
+
 * Sun Aug 26 2007 Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com - 2.2.9-4
 - license tag fix
 


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Mail-IMAPClient/EL-5/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.2
retrieving revision 1.3
diff -u -p -r1.2 -r1.3
--- sources 13 Apr 2007 19:45:33 -  1.2
+++ sources 5 Sep 2009 13:32:28 -   1.3
@@ -1 +1 @@
-21c1901d55a2d57f73840cad478c665d  Mail-IMAPClient-2.2.9.tar.gz
+bc5220b5540e4103f2111c94dcb1c938  Mail-IMAPClient-3.20.tar.gz

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rpms/perl-Mail-IMAPClient/F-11 perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec, 1.8, 1.9 sources, 1.5, 1.6

2009-09-05 Thread Tom Callaway
Author: spot

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Mail-IMAPClient/F-11
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv16306/F-11

Modified Files:
perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec sources 
Log Message:
bump to 3.20


Index: perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Mail-IMAPClient/F-11/perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.8
retrieving revision 1.9
diff -u -p -r1.8 -r1.9
--- perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec   13 Mar 2009 20:44:53 -  1.8
+++ perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec   5 Sep 2009 13:32:29 -   1.9
@@ -1,11 +1,11 @@
 Name:   perl-Mail-IMAPClient
-Version:3.14
+Version:3.20
 Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:An IMAP Client API
 Group:  Development/Libraries
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
 URL:http://search.cpan.org/dist/Mail-IMAPClient/
-Source0:
http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/M/MA/MARKOV/Mail-IMAPClient-%{version}.tar.gz
+Source0:
http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/P/PL/PLOBBES/Mail-IMAPClient-%{version}.tar.gz
 BuildRoot:  %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n)
 BuildRequires:  perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker), perl(IO::Socket), perl(constant), 
perl(Socket)
 BuildRequires:  perl(IO::File), perl(IO::Select), perl(Fcntl), perl(Errno), 
perl(Carp)
@@ -19,20 +19,18 @@ to and an IMAP conversation with an IMAP
 
 %prep
 %setup -q -n Mail-IMAPClient-%{version}
+sed -i 's#/usr/local/bin/perl#/usr/bin/perl#' examples/*.pl
 
 %build
+# the extended tests cannot be run without an IMAP server
 yes n | %{__perl} Makefile.PL INSTALLDIRS=vendor
 make
 
 %install
 rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 make pure_install PERL_INSTALL_ROOT=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT
-find examples -type f -exec chmod -x {} 2/dev/null ';'
-find examples -type f -exec sed -i 's#/usr/local/bin/perl#/usr/bin/perl#' {} 
2/dev/null ';'
 find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -type f -name .packlist -exec rm -f {} ';'
-find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -depth -type d -exec rmdir {} 2/dev/null ';'
 chmod -R u+w $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/*
-chmod -x $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{perl_vendorlib}/Mail/IMAPClient/BodyStructure.pm
 
 %check
 make test
@@ -47,6 +45,12 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 %{_mandir}/man3/*.3*
 
 %changelog
+* Sat Sep  5 2009 Stepan Kasal ska...@redhat.com - 3.20-1
+- new upstream source
+
+* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 3.14-2
+- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
+
 * Fri Mar 13 2009 Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com - 3.14-1
 - update to 3.14
 


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Mail-IMAPClient/F-11/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.5
retrieving revision 1.6
diff -u -p -r1.5 -r1.6
--- sources 13 Mar 2009 20:44:53 -  1.5
+++ sources 5 Sep 2009 13:32:29 -   1.6
@@ -1 +1 @@
-bd099eda25cc0cc44e1cecf3f7f22a79  Mail-IMAPClient-3.14.tar.gz
+bc5220b5540e4103f2111c94dcb1c938  Mail-IMAPClient-3.20.tar.gz

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rpms/perl-Mail-IMAPClient/F-10 perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec, 1.6, 1.7 sources, 1.4, 1.5

2009-09-05 Thread Tom Callaway
Author: spot

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Mail-IMAPClient/F-10
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv16306/F-10

Modified Files:
perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec sources 
Log Message:
bump to 3.20


Index: perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Mail-IMAPClient/F-10/perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.6
retrieving revision 1.7
diff -u -p -r1.6 -r1.7
--- perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec   21 Jul 2008 19:10:01 -  1.6
+++ perl-Mail-IMAPClient.spec   5 Sep 2009 13:32:29 -   1.7
@@ -1,11 +1,11 @@
 Name:   perl-Mail-IMAPClient
-Version:3.08
+Version:3.20
 Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:An IMAP Client API
 Group:  Development/Libraries
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
 URL:http://search.cpan.org/dist/Mail-IMAPClient/
-Source0:
http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/M/MA/MARKOV/Mail-IMAPClient-%{version}.tar.gz
+Source0:
http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/P/PL/PLOBBES/Mail-IMAPClient-%{version}.tar.gz
 BuildRoot:  %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n)
 BuildRequires:  perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker), perl(IO::Socket), perl(constant), 
perl(Socket)
 BuildRequires:  perl(IO::File), perl(IO::Select), perl(Fcntl), perl(Errno), 
perl(Carp)
@@ -19,20 +19,18 @@ to and an IMAP conversation with an IMAP
 
 %prep
 %setup -q -n Mail-IMAPClient-%{version}
+sed -i 's#/usr/local/bin/perl#/usr/bin/perl#' examples/*.pl
 
 %build
+# the extended tests cannot be run without an IMAP server
 yes n | %{__perl} Makefile.PL INSTALLDIRS=vendor
 make
 
 %install
 rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 make pure_install PERL_INSTALL_ROOT=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT
-find examples -type f -exec chmod -x {} 2/dev/null ';'
-find examples -type f -exec sed -i 's#/usr/local/bin/perl#/usr/bin/perl#' {} 
2/dev/null ';'
 find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -type f -name .packlist -exec rm -f {} ';'
-find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -depth -type d -exec rmdir {} 2/dev/null ';'
 chmod -R u+w $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/*
-chmod -x $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{perl_vendorlib}/Mail/IMAPClient/BodyStructure.pm
 
 %check
 make test
@@ -47,6 +45,18 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 %{_mandir}/man3/*.3*
 
 %changelog
+* Sat Sep  5 2009 Stepan Kasal ska...@redhat.com - 3.20-1
+- new upstream source
+
+* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 3.14-2
+- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
+
+* Fri Mar 13 2009 Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com - 3.14-1
+- update to 3.14
+
+* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 3.08-2
+- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
+
 * Mon Jul 21 2008 Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com - 3.08-1
 - 3.08
 


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Mail-IMAPClient/F-10/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.4
retrieving revision 1.5
diff -u -p -r1.4 -r1.5
--- sources 21 Jul 2008 19:10:01 -  1.4
+++ sources 5 Sep 2009 13:32:29 -   1.5
@@ -1 +1 @@
-688f219e676b0c9da0ce2892449c7c1f  Mail-IMAPClient-3.08.tar.gz
+bc5220b5540e4103f2111c94dcb1c938  Mail-IMAPClient-3.20.tar.gz

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[Bug 521363] Request upgrade of perl-Mail-IMAPClient

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--- Comment #1 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org  
2009-09-05 11:35:16 EDT ---
perl-Mail-IMAPClient-3.20-1.el5 has been submitted as an update for Fedora EPEL
5.
http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-Mail-IMAPClient-3.20-1.el5

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--- Comment #2 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org  
2009-09-05 11:35:20 EDT ---
perl-Mail-IMAPClient-3.20-1.el4 has been submitted as an update for Fedora EPEL
4.
http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-Mail-IMAPClient-3.20-1.el4

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--- Comment #3 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org  
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perl-Mail-IMAPClient-3.20-1.fc10 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 10.
http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-Mail-IMAPClient-3.20-1.fc10

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--- Comment #4 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org  
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perl-Mail-IMAPClient-3.20-1.fc11 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 11.
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[Bug 520505] Spurious dependency on perl(Test::More)

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--- Comment #10 from Chris Weyl cw...@alumni.drew.edu  2009-09-05 16:36:45 
EDT ---
(In reply to comment #8)
 As said, it's been discussed before.  

So, again, do you have any real examples of actual harm specific to including
the tests as documentation, or is this all handwaving and FUD?  If I remember
correctly, there weren't any real examples the last time this came up,
either...  And if I'm being accused of causing Fedora actual harm, I'd at
least like to see the evidence against me.


Dependency bloat (from %_docdir contents) is a long standing rpm issue that no
one seems willing to tackle; by policy we don't allow deps in %_docdir so
Fedora rpm shouldn't even look in there.  And frankly, I don't think it's
unreasonable to say that I've done more recently to help eliminate %_docdir and
other spurious deps by writing up and proposing the filtering system now in
place than any other effort I've recently seen.  (Corrections welcome.)  If rpm
conformed to Fedora policy, %_docdir deps wouldn't ever be an issue with any
package.

Catalyst test suites often contain mini test-apps that help demonstrate how
something actually works.  MooseX::AttributeHelpers was for ages poorly
documented; the tests were the only real way to help figure out how they
worked.  MooseX::Workers sounded really quite cool didn't make any sense until
I read through the test cases.  If one does a basic google search[1] for
'site:search.cpan.org AND (see the test suite OR see the tests)': 
MP3::M3U::Parser (See the tests in the distribution for example codes),
Parallel::Forker (For more examples, see the tests), MooseX::Types (See the
tests directory for a start on this, w.r.t. a specific coding scenario),
WWW::Netflix::API (Also see the TEST SUITE source code for more examples),
etc, etc.

As to undocumented api...  We all know the conventions, we all get to make
our own decisions, and we all know we're shooting ourselves in the foot (or
head) if we use internal methods.  If this were a real argument, we should
probably not allow any users to see the source code at all.  Or have root. Or a
keyboard. :)

I think the ability to run the test suite post-install is pretty important, but
we're installing them in %_docdir.  ATM the intention is to have them as
documentation; if someone uses them beyond that that's their own doing.  And I
hardly think running a test suite post-install is a bad practice; modern
Perl apps often have a fairly extensive dependency tree...  It's nice to be
able to validate that updating perl-Sub-Name, say, isn't going to somehow break
Class::MOP and thereby your Catalyst app.  Unless we start breaking them out
into -tests subpackages, we don't need to consider this here, however, as they
stand quite nicely on their own as docs.

Soo...  maybe the undocumented / bad API theories held some weight back in
1999, but this is 2009.  Modern Perl test suites are an entirely different
animal.  I'm more than open to reconsidering the merits of this, but I haven't
seen any of the actual harm claimed to be specific to including the tests in
%_docdir.

[1]
http://www.google.com/#hl=enq=site%3Asearch.cpan.org+AND+(see+the+test+suite+OR+see+the+tests)aq=faqi=oq=fp=3aa7f458acaa2672

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