Re: [OT] Anybody using kernel 2.6.31

2009-09-17 Thread Roberto Ragusa
john wendel wrote:
> 
> I built 2.6.31 from kernel.org and I'm using it now on this F11 box.
> It's working OK, but when I get a lot of disk I/O going, I see laggy,
> jerky mouse movement. I've never seen this on a Fedora kernel or home
> built 2.6.30. I don't hear any audio problems like skipping, just bad
> mouse behavior.
> 
> Anybody have any suggestions for which kernel knobs I might tweak to fix
> this?

Maybe related to this?

  
http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/317416/kernel_2_6_31_speed_up_linux_desktop?rid=-219

It is described as an improvement, so maybe you are seeing something else.

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Re: Why does laptop battery show < 100% charge

2009-09-17 Thread M A Young

On Wed, 16 Sep 2009, Paolo Galtieri wrote:


This is something that has been driving me crazy over the last several
weeks.  I have my laptop plugged into AC power and has been plugged into AC
power for several days now, but the battery applet shows 97.3% charge.  It
has been showing < 100% for several days and never reaches 100%.  The
battery is less than 3 months old.  I'm running F11 with all the latest
updates.

I would appreciate any ideas as to why this is the case.  There have been no
power outages so it seems to me there is no reason my battery should show <
100% charge.

In case it makes a difference I'm running wireless on a 3945ABG.  The
processor is a Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7200  @ 2.00GHz


This may be down to the bios software. I run my laptop (a Dell Inspiron 
1525) off AC power in both linux (F11 and rawhide) and windows vista and 
the battery charge gradually declines over the months, but the battery 
doesn't charge unless I unplug the AC briefly while the computer in on, 
which prompts the machine to charge the battery fully.


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Re: Why does laptop battery show < 100% charge

2009-09-17 Thread Prasan
> This may be down to the bios software. I run my laptop (a Dell Inspiron
> 1525) off AC power in both linux (F11 and rawhide) and windows vista and the
> battery charge gradually declines over the months, but the battery doesn't
> charge unless I unplug the AC briefly while the computer in on, which
> prompts the machine to charge the battery fully.

I have exactly same functions in my Dell Inspiron 1545 Both in Fedora
11 and Vista Battery gradually decrease % of charge when continuously
even when plugged to AC. When powered off when I plug the AC adapter
battery does not get charge if the battery level is above 95%.

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Re: Why does laptop battery show < 100% charge

2009-09-17 Thread Jatin K

On 09/17/2009 01:29 PM, Prasan wrote:

This may be down to the bios software. I run my laptop (a Dell Inspiron
1525) off AC power in both linux (F11 and rawhide) and windows vista and the
battery charge gradually declines over the months, but the battery doesn't
charge unless I unplug the AC briefly while the computer in on, which
prompts the machine to charge the battery fully.
 

I have exactly same functions in my Dell Inspiron 1545 Both in Fedora
11 and Vista Battery gradually decrease % of charge when continuously
even when plugged to AC. When powered off when I plug the AC adapter
battery does not get charge if the battery level is above 95%.

   
please visit *http://www.batteryuniversity.com/* .. and gain some 
knowledge abt batteries
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grub in mbr needs bootable flag

2009-09-17 Thread Herbert Gasiorowski

Im using a kickstart installation with my own partitioning.
I had no problems with Fedora 10 but now on f11 grub will not start without a 
bootable flag set on any partition.


It nearly looks as if grub is installed in some partition but I am quite shure 
that the old MSDOS MBR is overwritten.


Is there a way to check if grub is installed in the MBR?
Or is it a bug in grub?

(kickstart option is: "bootloader --location=mbr")

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Re: VMWare Server 2.0.1 On Fedora 11 64Bit

2009-09-17 Thread Pim Zandbergen

Frederick Abrams wrote:



The RPM installs fine but seem to have issues compiling some of the 
vmware modules.


Once you have fixed the kernel modules, the vmware-vmx engine runs just 
fine.


But the management interface is very unstable under F11.
After almost every change, the browser and the vi client hang or
can no longer connect.

"service vmware-mgmt restart" fixes it, but it has to be done too often.

I already downgraded one machine running VMware Server 2.0.1
from F11 to F10, and that fixed the problem permanently.
Does anyone see this problem too, and/or have a fix for it?

Thanks,
Pim


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Re: discovering network printers on F11

2009-09-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 16 September 2009 22:40:09 Globe Trotter wrote:
> --- On Tue, 9/15/09, Anne Wilson  wrote:
> > From: Anne Wilson 
> > Subject: Re: discovering network printers on F11
> > To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora."
> >  Date: Tuesday, September 15, 2009, 7:20 AM
> > On Tuesday 15 September 2009 09:37:37
> >
> > Tim Waugh wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 08:45 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > > According to Linux Format this month, if you have
> >
> > SELinux running this is
> >
> > > > to be expected, so you'll have to look for a way
> >
> > to allow the broadcast
> >
> > > > through.
> > >
> > > Eh??
> >
> > Right or wrong, the statement was that the default SELinux
> > blocked network
> > printers.  I haven't got it in front of me, but it
> > went on to say what needed
> > allowing in SELinux to make it work.
> >
> > Don't shoot the messenger ;-)
> 
> Thanks, Anne. Where is this article? 

I had mis-remembered.  What it actually said (page 10, if you have LXF 124, 
November) was that the firewall by default turns of multicasting.  The 
'comment' is a bit of a rant, saying that if something as vital as this is 
disabled there should be some way of alerting you to it.

> Btw, I went and disabled selinux using
>  system-config-selinux but the printers were still not discovered. I have
>  reverted it back to enforcing, but I wonder what the problem is, and how
>  to troubleshoot it.
> 
That rules out SELinux, then.  If you haven't done so, check firewalls - but I 
think someone already told you to do that.

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Re: The "other distro" to offer ppc support!

2009-09-17 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 00:17 -0400, Bill McGonigle wrote:
> On 09/16/2009 08:05 PM, gil...@altern.org wrote:
> > I suppose security updates
> > will still be available for some time and it doesn't seem the $29.95 SL
> > upgrade makes a world of difference.
> 
> There are some people with really decent machines that were cut off from
> Leopard, and so now Snow Leopard is out, and they're SOL for security
> updates.  Something like an 800MHz flat-panel iMac is still a nice
> computer, would make a great Fedora machine.
> 
> Snow Leopard is mostly an engineering release, so when the next upgrade
> arrives, you'll find some Mac Pros with the quad-liquid-cooled G5's
> (sold into summer '06) on the auction block (cheap/unsupported).  They
> ought to be giving away Powerbooks with a fill-up at the gas station in
> Cupertino.
> 
> I'll have to make sure my local computer recycling nonprofit knows where
> to turn.

I'm hardly one to defend Apple and their policies. I have been using
Fedora PPC installations on old iMacs for many years now and am hardly a
fan of OSX but your information is wrong.

Less than a week ago, Apple issued Security Update 2009-005 which
included updates for both Leopard (10.5.x) and Tiger (10.4.x) which you
can clearly see here...

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3865

So your claim of 'unsupported' is not entirely accurate. I am unsure how
long Apple will be releasing updates for Tiger and Leopard and clearly
if you have a PPC based Macintosh, your days are numbered but they are
still supported. I'm never quite convinced of Apple's commitment to
security anyway and support is always just a credit card payment
away. ;-)

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ERROR: Removing 'pci2': Device or resource busy

2009-09-17 Thread yashoda

I tried to find a similar querry on google, but it didn't help me

i have written a kernel module for a PCI card. After compiling (make) it
successfully, i insmoded the module.
Now it doesnt rmmod.n dispays the error

ERROR: Removing 'pci2': Device or resource busy

on dmesg, it gives
*
6>DevicePCI: cleanup
 sum BUG error<0>[ cut here ]
kernel BUG at /home/fedora/Desktop/pci_drive/pci2.c:80!
invalid opcode:  [#1] SMP 
last sysfs file:
/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.7/usb1/1-2/1-2:1.0/host4/target4:0:0/4:0:0:0/evt_media_change
Modules linked in: pci2(P-) vfat fat usb_storage fuse ipt_MASQUERADE
iptable_nat nf_nat sco bridge stp llc bnep l2cap bluetooth sunrpc
ip6t_REJECT nf_conntrack_ipv6 ip6table_filter ip6_tables ipv6
cpufreq_ondemand acpi_cpufreq dm_multipath uinput snd_hda_codec_realtek
snd_hda_intel snd_hda_codec ppdev snd_hwdep snd_pcm snd_timer iTCO_wdt snd
iTCO_vendor_support e100 soundcore mii i2c_i801 snd_page_alloc pcspkr
parport_pc parport ata_generic pata_acpi i915 drm i2c_algo_bit i2c_core
video output [last unloaded: scsi_wait_scan]

Pid: 3832, comm: rmmod Tainted: P   (2.6.29.4-167.fc11.i686.PAE #1) 

EIP: 0060:[] EFLAGS: 00010246 CPU: 0
EIP is at remove_pci+0x1c/0x20 [pci2]
EAX: f847e134 EBX: f6af5800 ECX: f6af585c EDX: 0127d000
ESI: f847e708 EDI: f6af58e8 EBP: e6d13ed8 ESP: e6d13ed8
 DS: 007b ES: 007b FS: 00d8 GS: 0033 SS: 0068
Process rmmod (pid: 3832, ti=e6d12000 task=edd5cbc0 task.ti=e6d12000)
Stack:
 e6d13ee4 c0572f54 f6af585c e6d13ef4 c05eee10 f847e708 f6af585c e6d13f08
 c05eeea4 f847e708 c08a40f0  e6d13f1c c05ee3ee  f847e708
 0880 e6d13f2c c05ef271 f847e6d8 f847e708 e6d13f44 c0573132 e6d13f44
Call Trace:
 [] ? pci_device_remove+0x1e/0x3e
 [] ? __device_release_driver+0x53/0x70
 [] ? driver_detach+0x77/0x9b
 [] ? bus_remove_driver+0x68/0x84
 [] ? driver_unregister+0x2d/0x31
 [] ? pci_unregister_driver+0x32/0x6d
 [] ? pci_cleanup+0x1c/0x1f [pci2]
 [] ? sys_delete_module+0x17b/0x1cd
 [] ? remove_vma+0x5a/0x60
 [] ? audit_syscall_entry+0x163/0x185
 [] ? sysenter_do_call+0x12/0x34
Code: c8 31 c0 59 8d 65 f4 5b 5e 5f 5d c3 90 90 90 55 89 e5 e8 8c bd f8 c7
83 b8 00 01 00 00 00 75 0b 68 34 e1 47 f8 e8 e8 6a 29 c8 58 <0f> 0b eb fe 55
89 e5 e8 6c bd f8 c7 68 6c e1 47 f8 e8 d1 6a 29 
EIP: [] remove_pci+0x1c/0x20 [pci2] SS:ESP 0068:e6d13ed8
---[ end trace 2248c42203ac08c8 ]---
*

line 80 of the driver program is

 iounmap(ioaddr);

and the entire driver program is

***
// Linux PCI device driver




#define OUR_PCI_VENDER_ID  0x10b5
#define OUR_PCI_DEVICE_ID  0x9054


#include 
#include 
#include 
#include 
#include 
#include 
#include 
#include 
#include 

MODULE_LICENSE("GPL");

static struct pci_device_id our_pci_id_tb[] = {
{ OUR_PCI_VENDER_ID, OUR_PCI_DEVICE_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, PCI_ANY_ID, 0, 0, 0
},
{ 0, }
};
MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE (pci, our_pci_id_tb);

int init_module_probe(struct pci_dev *pdev, const struct pci_device_id *id) 
{   

unsigned long mmio_start, mmio_end, mmio_len, mmio_flags;
void *ioaddr;

pdev = pci_find_device(OUR_PCI_VENDER_ID, OUR_PCI_DEVICE_ID, NULL);
if(pdev) 
  { 
printk ("<1> yipeee.device found !!!\n");
if(pci_enable_device(pdev))
printk("<1>Could not enable the device\n");
else printk("Device enabled\n");
  }
   else 
printk("device not found\n");
  
//pdev = probe_for_device();
if(!pdev)
return 0;  

mmio_start = pci_resource_start(pdev, 2);
mmio_end = pci_resource_end(pdev, 2);
mmio_len = pci_resource_len(pdev, 2);
mmio_flags = pci_resource_flags(pdev, 2);

if(pci_request_regions(pdev, "pci_device")) 
 { 
   printk("Could not get PCI region\n");
   return 0;
   //goto cleanup1;
 }

ioaddr = ioremap(mmio_start, mmio_len);  
printk("<1> The ioaddr is %x", ioaddr);
if(!ioaddr) 
   { 
   printk("Could not ioremap\n");
   return 0;
   //goto cleanup2;
   }
printk("<1> ioaddress obtained");  
// register the device
// pci_register_driver(&our_pci_driver); 
   return 0; 
}


static void __devexit remove_pci(struct pci_dev *pdev)
{   void *ioaddr;
struct device *dev = pci_get_drvdata(pdev);
if (!dev) 
printk("<1> sum BUG error");
BUG();
iounmap(ioaddr);   
//unregister_netdev(dev);
pci_relea

Re: F11: Amarok doesn't see all my music files

2009-09-17 Thread Rex Dieter
Bill McGonigle wrote:

> I had to install taglib-extras to get some of my files to show up - I'm
> not sure why.  The KDE 4.3 version is definitely much better.

taglib-extras is a dependency of amarok already

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Re: java development questions

2009-09-17 Thread Rodrigo Renault
Hi Jack,
I'm using Netbeans 6.7 and OpenJDK too, nothing to complain about. SVN works
great in Netbeans. I'm also using Netbeans for PHP and Javascript
development.
Used Eclipse for a while, but when a started to play with Netbeans I've
changed my mind.

ps: If you are going to learn Java I suggest you to read about the framework
Hibernate, it rocks!

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Re: VMWare Server 2.0.1 On Fedora 11 64Bit

2009-09-17 Thread Frederick Abrams




I've been playing around with it all morning and managed to get all my
Virtual Machines back online. I have noticed the issue you mentioned
below with the web interface, its extremely frustrating but lucky for
me i don't make use of the web interface very often as i don't make
many changes, Maybe once every 2 or 3 months. So it wont affect me much.


Regards,

Fred


On 09/17/2009 12:48 PM, Pim Zandbergen wrote:
Frederick
Abrams wrote:
  
  

The RPM installs fine but seem to have issues compiling some of the
vmware modules.

  
  
Once you have fixed the kernel modules, the vmware-vmx engine runs just
fine.
  
  
But the management interface is very unstable under F11.
  
After almost every change, the browser and the vi client hang or
  
can no longer connect.
  
  
"service vmware-mgmt restart" fixes it, but it has to be done too
often.
  
  
I already downgraded one machine running VMware Server 2.0.1
  
from F11 to F10, and that fixed the problem permanently.
  
Does anyone see this problem too, and/or have a fix for it?
  
  
Thanks,
  
Pim
  




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Problem in reboot for preupgrade F9 -> F10

2009-09-17 Thread Ambrogio
Hi all
I run the preupgrade software from F9 to F10.

After the reboot I obtain a window in which I have an anaconda 11.4.1.62
exception report.
I cant write the report because it was not able to write to disk.

In the text terminal I can read:

rpmdb: Program version 4.5 doesn't match environment version 0.128
error: db4 error(-30972) from dbenv->open: DB_VERSION_MISMATCH: database
environment version mismatch
error: cannot open Packages index using db3
error: cannot open Packages database in /mnt/sysimage/var/lib/rpm

I tried to rebuild the rpm db as seen in some google search removing the
__db.* and then rebuild them with rpm --rebuilddb, but all that was done
by fedora 9.

I think I should use rpm from fedora 10 to have the right db, but I
can't imagine how to pause the installer.

Another chance could be to start the installer without the __db*, but I
don't know if rpm rebuild the database before to start the upgrade
process.

Can someone point me to the right solution?
Tnx
 Ambrogio

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libgpod: how to use new iPod Nano with built-in video camera

2009-09-17 Thread Dario Lesca
The last version of gtkpod/libgpod is no more compatible with the new
version of iPod Nano with built-in video camera.

Someone have some suggest for manage this new version of iPod?

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Re: pseudo terminals

2009-09-17 Thread devi
Hi,


On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 08:09 +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> On 16Sep2009 19:43, devi  wrote:
> | On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 11:18 +0100, Dave Mitchell wrote:
> | > On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 03:06:09PM -0400, devi wrote:
> | > > The command 
> | > > echo "service httpd status " > /dev/pts/1 is executed on one terminal,
> | > > let us assume it as t1.  
> | > > The echo command is executed on t1 but the output(service httpd status"
> | > > is directed to /dev/pts/1 terminal.
> | > > 
> | > > What I am saying is that the output  is redirected directly to the
> | > > terminal /dev/pts1/1.
> | > > The output here is "service httpd status", which is generally a command.
> | > > And so it gets executed.
> | > 
> | > No, the text just appears in the terminal associated with /dev/pts1/1;
> | > it does not not cause the command to be executed. That is to say,
> | > you can't use this as a mechanism to insert characters into a another
> | > terminal's input buffer.
> | > 
> | But the command got executed, and it gave the status of apache
> | on /dev/pts/1 terminal.
> 
> That's quite interesting. It should _not_ cause the command to be
> executed, and I really believe something more is going on.
> 
> /dev/pts/1 is the "slave" side of the pseudoterminal; all pseudoterminals
> have a "master" side and a "slave" side.

Here, the /dev/pts/1 is the tty of a virtual machine.  This virtual
machine is created by xen.
Yes, I have come across master and slave pseudo terminals, but I have
not set any anything like that.
> 
> The slave side is the "normal" terminal side that programs are connected to.
> Writing to it causes text to the displayed, and reading from it consumes text
> that is typed.
> 
> The master side is what terminal emulators like xterm use. Xterm is a
> GUI program that displays a terminal on your screen. When you type at
> the displayed GUI, xterm catches that and writes data to the _master_
> side of the pseudo terminal it obtained. That stuff appears as though
> typed to ordinary programs on the slave side. Conversely, data _read_ by
> xterm from the master side is the data _written_ to the slave side;
> xterm gathers that and updates the GUI, thus displaying the program
> output.
> 
> See "man ptmx" for how a pseudo terminal is obtained under Linux.
> 
> Anyway, because of this scheme nothing you write to /dev/pts/1, a slave
> device, should cause it to be _typed_ at that terminal.
> 
> Can you confirm your setup in more detail?

There is no setup, I created the virtual machine, and then found its
tty. and executed the command from other terminal "t1" as specified
earlier.


> 
> I would imagine that you have two terminals open, with plain shells in
> them. Typing the command "tty" in each will tell you their names, and
> presumably one says "/dev/pts/1". The other is "t1".
> 
> And you are really typing:
>   echo "service httpd status" >/dev/pts/1
> in the "t1" terminal, and on the /dev/pts/1 terminal you are not seeing the
> string "service httpd status" displayed as plain output; instead you are
> seeing the output of the command:
>   service httpd status
> 
> Is that all correct?
> 
> Can I suggest the following experiments?
> 
> First, run the command "set -x" in the shell on /dev/pts/1. That will turn
> of execution tracing, and it should then be more obvious is that shell
> is really executing the command. Type some commands in that shell, like
> "date" or "uptime" to see the effect. Then do your echo statement from
> "t1" again.
> 
> Secondly, on the "t1" terminal, run the command:
>   echo -n "service httpd status" >/dev/pts/1
> You should see it displayed on /dev/pts/1 but it won't run a command
> because we have not sent the end-of-line. If you're right, it will be
> as though typed, and you can go to the other terminal and edit the line
> and change it before pressing enter.

I have done, what you suggested, it's the same.  Anyways my requirement
is that, after the command is executed on /dev/pts/1, I should be able
to get the return value on the terminal "t1"

eg:
rc=`echo "service httpd status" > /dev/pts/1"
I thought rc will hold the return value, but it displays nothing.


> 
> Cheers,
> -- 
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> 
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Re: libgpod: how to use new iPod Nano with built-in video camera

2009-09-17 Thread Todd Zullinger
Dario Lesca wrote:
> The last version of gtkpod/libgpod is no more compatible with the
> new version of iPod Nano with built-in video camera.
>
> Someone have some suggest for manage this new version of iPod?

This is the nano released in the past week or two?  AIUI, the database
has format has changed a good bit on these models, it's much more like
the database on the iPhone and iPod Touch.  One of the libgpod guys
plans to commit some initial code for handling the new database format
soon, but it's definitely not there yet.

I know, this doesn't tell you much that you didn't already know,
sorry. :)

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Re: F11: Amarok doesn't see all my music files [FOLLOWUP]

2009-09-17 Thread Don Levey
Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Monday 14 September 2009 19:47:46 Don Levey wrote:
>> Michael Schwendt wrote:
>>> 1) Is it reproducible with individual albums? Can you copy all tracks
>>> of an affected album to a different location and reproduce the problem
>>> there?
>> Yep - there seems to be something about the tracks, I guess.
>>
>>> 2) Have you run  amarokcollectionscanner  in a terminal yet to see
>>> what output it gives for an album that is affected?
>> Not yet; I'm about to...
>> OK, I ran it.  I tested on a directory in which I know I've had
>> problems, (has two subdirectories, each with one album) and I see no
>> error or differences between working and non-working tracks.  I then
>> went up one level to the entire collection, but there was too much
>> information.  I did see a run of "invalid sample rate" errors but these
>> didn't reference a file.
>>
>> Does this make sense?
>>
>>  -Don
>>
> Don, if this turns out to be complicated, there is a dedicated list (not too 
> high traffic, compared with this one) at 
> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/amarok
> 

This was an excellent suggestion.  It turns out that the solution was here:
http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/amarok/2009-July/008876.html

By simply 'touch'-ing the affected directories, the collection scanner
picked up the missing tracks.  All seems OK now, thanks!
 -Don

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Re: Netbook Opinion

2009-09-17 Thread Hiisi
> On Wednesday 16 September 2009 19:59:50 Hiisi wrote:
>> <--SNIP-->
>>
>> Adblock Plus its name. Moreover, I would suggest simply do not install
>> flash-plugin at all. No flash - no problems.
>
> For some sites it's necessary, and using flashblock makes it easily
> controllable.  Then you get unexpected problems, like that fact that I
> couldn't watch a cnn news report without whitelisting cnn in adblock!
>
> Anne

I'm YouTube addicted. I can't have flash-plugin installed on my
computer. It's really dangerous for me!
By the way, I would like to know how to shut up firefox' suggestion to
install missing plugnins.
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Re: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces

2009-09-17 Thread Michael Hennebry

On Wed, 16 Sep 2009, Bruce Korb wrote:


On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Michael Hennebry

Since I installed F11,
rather a lot of labels are black on dark gray or black on black.
'Tis quite annoying.


That's controlled by the theme and many need compositing on to avoid this.
Experiment with themes until you get one that's better for you if you
can't use Desktop Effects.


I tried to play with themes,
but could not find anything in the gui that even hinted at my problem.

A friend of mine solved the problem.
I had installed F11 and kept a home directory from F9.
There have been syntax changes for data in the .kde directory.
The new KDE was angry and taking it out on my labels.


I'd just like a very simple recipe: do this, then this, then this.
I really, _really_, *REALLY* do not want to have to go through
the learning curve of figuring out how to fiddle "desktop effects"
to do something that is very common and ought to be so easy.
It used to be easy.  'Tis quite *beyond* just annoying.

If anyone has such a recipe, *please* just post it.  Thank you so much.


Does that mean you have the same problem after an install?
Get rid of your ~/.kde directory and log in again.

If you are refering to desktop backgrounds,
I still don't know what I did to get them.
It should have been easy.

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How to use fedora-11 source dvd?

2009-09-17 Thread Abhishek Sharma
Hi,

I accidentally downloaded the fedora-11-source-DVD, instead of downloading
the bootable version of fedora.
Now I have few doubts regarding this DVD.

1. Can I use it to install fedora?
2. Can I use it to install packages contained in it?

if yes then please let me know how.


Thanks & Regards,
Abhishek Sharma
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Re: How to use fedora-11 source dvd?

2009-09-17 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 20:11 +0530, Abhishek Sharma wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I accidentally downloaded the fedora-11-source-DVD, instead of
> downloading the bootable version of fedora.
> Now I have few doubts regarding this DVD.
> 
> 1. Can I use it to install fedora?
> 2. Can I use it to install packages contained in it? 
> 
> if yes then please let me know how.

No, the contents of the DVD is source code. You'd need to bootstrap the
whole system from source before you would be able to install it.

Just download the binary DVD.
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Re: How to use fedora-11 source dvd?

2009-09-17 Thread Todd Zullinger
Abhishek Sharma wrote:
> I accidentally downloaded the fedora-11-source-DVD, instead of
> downloading the bootable version of fedora.  Now I have few doubts
> regarding this DVD.
>
> 1. Can I use it to install fedora?

I'm sorry to tell you that you cannot.

> 2. Can I use it to install packages contained in it?

You can install packages from the source DVD, but they are the source
rpms, not the binary rpms.  They would not be useful for running any
of the programs that the binary packages provide.  The source packages
are useful for inspecting the source code and patches used to create
Fedora, or if you want to customize them or fix bugs in the packaging.

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Re: java development questions

2009-09-17 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
On 09/16/2009 02:14 PM, jack craig wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> I am using a FC11 os and want to learn Java.
>
> I am faced with choices that i don't have good answers for and wonder
> what wisdom this group may have to offer?
>
> first, IDE's; there are eclipse and IcedTea6 (which doenst have much
> doc), are there others i am missing?
>
> anyone got pros/cons for eclipse or icedtea?
>
> also, there is the sun jdk, but this os seems to have openjdk also,
> anyone comment on this choice?
> openjdk also seems shy of install/config docs, ... ???  may both be
> installed & usable at once?
> (not at the same time of course).
>
> all comments welcome, tia, jackc...
>
I have used Eclipse and Netbeans for quite some time.
I don't know much about 'IcedTea6'.

My experience with Eclipse has been pretty good although
there are problems and you can get around these problems
if you know what to do.  For example, when downloading and
installing plugins or modules, not 'everything' is installable.
You have to know what it is that you need, where to get it,
and from a URI's that may not be present in your Eclipse
software list.

Takes some getting used to and sometimes there are nuances
such as the older Eclipse versions did not have smooth handling
of downloads without hanging due to disconnects and had to
be manually restarted.  They have improved on this problem with
Galileo.  Eclipse's Ganymede does not run on F11 because XULRunner
API has changed however, Fedora's Ganymede works on F11 only
because a patch has been applied to work with the new XULRunner APIs.

As for Netbeans, it is different from Eclipse in organization
and in operation.  But I do like it.  Both Eclipse and Netbeans
takes some getting used to and has somewhat a steep learning
curve depending on what you want to do.

There are plenty of tutorials and examples for both.

AS for CVS, other than setting up a repository, which can
be tough, it works very well on both IDEs.

Of the SVN problems, I found that the major problems
I was faced with is the the different flavours of SVN
clients and it varies, can cause confusion and the methods
of installing it, whether it is via Maven, via Tigris.org, or provided
eclipse.  I find that the Eclipse subclipse does not work
for me.

For example, to use the tigris site, one should NOT install
eclipse's svn clients at all including SVNKit, anything that
"smells" of subclipse, instead to download entirely from
tigris.org and of the right version.

The other problem is, make sure you choose the right
version of svn that your repository is using, be it v1.4x
or v1.6x. Make sure that subversion itself is properly
installed, Once you get your ducks lined up properly,
it works.  It is not easy at first, but once you have it,
you're ready to go.

What if you have both versions of repositories such
as a local repository of v1.4x and a remote repository
of v1.6x, what to do?  I have not encountered this
myself, and I would wonder how one gets around this
problem as you cannot have both subclipse versions in
the same Eclipse code base.  It is quite possible to have
Eclipse installed in one physical area containing the v1.4x
subclipse and yet have another Eclipse (same version)
installed in another physical area containing v1.6x, and it
seems like a painful way to go about it, but at least it could
work. I have not tried this myself.

The problems of subversion exist for both IDEs
as it takes getting used to each IDE's svn clients as
they are different in organization and use.

And like any tool, each has their strengths and weaknesses
and I use one, the other, or both, depending on what I
am doing.

FWIW,
Dan

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Re: java development questions

2009-09-17 Thread Andrew Overholt
I've heard good things about:

http://eclipsetutorial.sourceforge.net/introduction.html

Andrew

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Re: simple way to build rpm?

2009-09-17 Thread Aldo Foot
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Fernando Cassia  wrote:
<...snip...>
> The HP inkjet drivers (HPLIP) is one example of a "fire and forget"
> installer that just detects "where am I? what platform is this? what
> compilers do I have available? is the build environment safe? are the
> additional required packages available? (if not it fetches those)",
> etc.
>
> But that is NOT the norm on Linux. Somehow people write long 20-step
> FAQs and tell the user "here it is, use this FAQ" and the FAQ includes
> a lot of statements that should be copied and pasted on a shell prompt
> (terminal).
>
> So, why not write a damn shell script instead of pasting 10 separate
> lines and subject the user to copy-and-paste hell?.
_

If it only were that easy.
The problem is that many FAQs omit secondary steps.
Also there may be secondary requirements such an environment variable.
Who hasn't  run into the typical "package cannot be installed because
dependency so
and so is missing" problem? Linux desktops and servers have their individual
fingerprint just as every human hand has their own fingerprints.

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Re: Problem in reboot for preupgrade F9 -> F10

2009-09-17 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 14:36 +0200, Ambrogio wrote:
> Hi all
> I run the preupgrade software from F9 to F10.
> 
> After the reboot I obtain a window in which I have an anaconda 11.4.1.62
> exception report.
> I cant write the report because it was not able to write to disk.
> 
> In the text terminal I can read:
> 
> rpmdb: Program version 4.5 doesn't match environment version 0.128
> error: db4 error(-30972) from dbenv->open: DB_VERSION_MISMATCH: database
> environment version mismatch
> error: cannot open Packages index using db3
> error: cannot open Packages database in /mnt/sysimage/var/lib/rpm
> 
> I tried to rebuild the rpm db as seen in some google search removing the
> __db.* and then rebuild them with rpm --rebuilddb, but all that was done
> by fedora 9.
> 
> I think I should use rpm from fedora 10 to have the right db, but I
> can't imagine how to pause the installer.
> 
> Another chance could be to start the installer without the __db*, but I
> don't know if rpm rebuild the database before to start the upgrade
> process.
> 
> Can someone point me to the right solution?

if I recall correctly, you had to update yum in Fedora 9 because a
change was made during the lifetime of Fedora 9 and Fedora 10 used the
newer version of the RPM database. If you can reboot into Fedora 9
instead and run (as root), 'yum update yum', this would probably fix it.

Again, I am going from memory here...it's been a while.

Craig


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Re: cannot boot to login screen - part way there

2009-09-17 Thread Gerhard Magnus
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 22:25 -0700, Gerhard Magnus wrote:
> I've been trying to set up dual monitors using a second graphbics card, a 
> project which has so far been unsuccessful. Anyway, the system hardware is 
> back in its old configuration (without the second card) and the 
> dual-booted Windows XP comes up without problems. So the hardware is 
> probably OK.
> 
> The problem is I can't complete the boot of Fedora 11. I get to the grub 
> screen normally and then through the part of the process that brings 
> up the services. After I see the last "OK" on a familiar list the monitor 
> starts flashing and the boot hangs. I don't get the login screen.
> 
> I assume this is because I've screwed up the settings for the graphics 
> card and /or monitor.

Since it appeared the boot process was complete except for starting X I
tried doing ssh from another box and was able to log on and start
system-config-display. As I couldn't remember exactly what the video
"card" was -- it's some onboard thing on the motherboard -- I tried each
of the two video card options that seemed familiar: nv (the nvidia
options) and intel (Intel integrated graphics chipsets.) The "nv" option
didn't work -- the boot hung as before. But with "intel" I was able to
get the login screen and my desktop.

The problem is that now my highest resolution is 1024 X 768 and I'd like
to have the my old higher resolutions (like 1280 X 1024) back. How do I
do this?

Jerry


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Re: Problem in reboot for preupgrade F9 -> F10

2009-09-17 Thread Ambrogio
Tnx Craig for the response

Il giorno gio, 17/09/2009 alle 08.26 -0700, Craig White ha scritto:

> if I recall correctly, you had to update yum in Fedora 9 because a
> change was made during the lifetime of Fedora 9 and Fedora 10 used the
> newer version of the RPM database. If you can reboot into Fedora 9
> instead and run (as root), 'yum update yum', this would probably fix
> it.
F9 works perfectly because no update processes start.

> Again, I am going from memory here...it's been a while.
> 

Ops... my fedora 9 is uptodated.
I don't see update for a long time

I can't understand what is appens.
I used also the terminal 2 from the anaconda to rebuild the rpm database
with:
# rm -f /mnt/sysimage/var/lib/rpm/__db*
# rpm --root /mnt/sysimage --rebuilddb

but this didn't solve the problem.

yum check-update
Plugin caricati:downloadonly, fastestmirror, fedorakmod, kernel-module, 
list-data, presto, priorities, refresh-packagekit, verify
Setting up and reading Presto delta metadata
livna   

  | 2.4 kB 00:00
No Presto metadata available for livna
fedora  

  | 2.4 kB 00:00
No Presto metadata available for fedora
rpmfusion-free-updates  

  | 2.4 kB 00:00
No Presto metadata available for rpmfusion-free-updates
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates   

  | 2.4 kB 00:00
No Presto metadata available for rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
rpmfusion-free  

  |  951 B 00:00
No Presto metadata available for rpmfusion-free
adobe-linux-i386

  |  951 B 00:00
No Presto metadata available for adobe-linux-i386
updates-newkey  

  | 3.4 kB 00:00
No Presto metadata available for updates-newkey
freshrpms   

  | 2.8 kB 00:00
No Presto metadata available for freshrpms
rpmfusion-nonfree   

  |  951 B 00:00
No Presto metadata available for rpmfusion-nonfree
panorama

  |  951 B 00:00
No Presto metadata available for panorama
updates 

  | 2.6 kB 00:00
No Presto metadata available for updates
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
 * livna: ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de
 * fedora: mirror.switch.ch
 * updates-newkey: mirror.switch.ch
 * updates: mirror.switch.ch

flash-plugin.i386   
  10.0.32.18-release
 adobe-linux-i386

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Re: Why does laptop battery show < 100% charge

2009-09-17 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 21:32 -0500, Robert Nichols wrote: 
> Paolo Galtieri wrote:
> > This is something that has been driving me crazy over the last several 
> > weeks.  I have my laptop plugged into AC power and has been plugged into 
> > AC power for several days now, but the battery applet shows 97.3% 
> > charge.  It has been showing < 100% for several days and never reaches 
> > 100%.  The battery is less than 3 months old.  I'm running F11 with all 
> > the latest updates.
> 
> On some laptops the charger does not get started if the battery charge
> is greater than some percentage (perhaps 95%).  Saves pointless wear
> on the battery for very little gain.  My Lenovo laptop claims to work
> that way, though I've seen it go into the "charging" state when the
> battery was already near full charge.

The Lenovo power monitor on the XP side of my dual-boot laptop
recommends not starting the charge cycle until the charge drops to 80%.
I've been considering filing an RFE for the GNOME power manager applet
to make that a user-settable parameter.

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Re: Why does laptop battery show < 100% charge

2009-09-17 Thread Richard Hughes
2009/9/17 Matthew Saltzman :
> The Lenovo power monitor on the XP side of my dual-boot laptop
> recommends not starting the charge cycle until the charge drops to 80%.
> I've been considering filing an RFE for the GNOME power manager applet
> to make that a user-settable parameter.

We'd need kernel support first...

Richard.

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Re: simple way to build rpm?

2009-09-17 Thread suvayu ali
2009/9/17 Aldo Foot :
>  Linux desktops and servers have their individual
> fingerprint just as every human hand has their own fingerprints.
>

And when they start showing common patterns, we either call them a bug
or a feature. Sorry couldn't help myself ;)

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Re: F11: Amarok doesn't see all my music files [FOLLOWUP]

2009-09-17 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 17 September 2009 14:05:16 Don Levey wrote:
> Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Monday 14 September 2009 19:47:46 Don Levey wrote:
> >> Michael Schwendt wrote:
> >>> 1) Is it reproducible with individual albums? Can you copy all tracks
> >>> of an affected album to a different location and reproduce the problem
> >>> there?
> >>
> >> Yep - there seems to be something about the tracks, I guess.
> >>
> >>> 2) Have you run  amarokcollectionscanner  in a terminal yet to see
> >>> what output it gives for an album that is affected?
> >>
> >> Not yet; I'm about to...
> >> OK, I ran it.  I tested on a directory in which I know I've had
> >> problems, (has two subdirectories, each with one album) and I see no
> >> error or differences between working and non-working tracks.  I then
> >> went up one level to the entire collection, but there was too much
> >> information.  I did see a run of "invalid sample rate" errors but these
> >> didn't reference a file.
> >>
> >> Does this make sense?
> >>
> >>  -Don
> >
> > Don, if this turns out to be complicated, there is a dedicated list (not
> > too high traffic, compared with this one) at
> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/amarok
> 
> This was an excellent suggestion.  It turns out that the solution was here:
> http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/amarok/2009-July/008876.html
> 
> By simply 'touch'-ing the affected directories, the collection scanner
> picked up the missing tracks.  All seems OK now, thanks!
> 
I've now added that to http://userbase.kde.org/Amarok

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Re: discovering network printers on F11

2009-09-17 Thread Globe Trotter
--- On Thu, 9/17/09, Anne Wilson  wrote:

> From: Anne Wilson 
> Subject: Re: discovering network printers on F11
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." 
> 
> Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 6:12 AM
> 
> 
> #yiv1983320074 p, #yiv1983320074 li {white-space:pre-wrap;}
>  
> On
> Wednesday 16 September 2009 22:40:09 Globe Trotter
> wrote:
> >
> --- On Tue, 9/15/09, Anne Wilson 
> wrote:
> >
> > From: Anne Wilson 
> >
> > Subject: Re: discovering network printers on F11
> >
> > To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and
> advice for using Fedora."
> >
> >  Date: Tuesday, September
> 15, 2009, 7:20 AM
> >
> > On Tuesday 15 September 2009 09:37:37
> >
> >
> >
> > Tim Waugh wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 08:45 +0100, Anne Wilson
> wrote:
> >
> > > > According to Linux Format this month, if you
> have
> >
> >
> >
> > SELinux running this is
> >
> >
> >
> > > > to be expected, so you'll have to look
> for a way
> >
> >
> >
> > to allow the broadcast
> >
> >
> >
> > > > through.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Eh??
> >
> >
> >
> > Right or wrong, the statement was that the default
> SELinux
> >
> > blocked network
> >
> > printers.  I haven't got it in front of me, but
> it
> >
> > went on to say what needed
> >
> > allowing in SELinux to make it work.
> >
> >
> >
> > Don't shoot the messenger ;-)
> >
> 
> >
> Thanks, Anne. Where is this article? 
> 
> I
> had mis-remembered.  What it actually said (page 10, if you
> have LXF 124, November) was that the firewall by default turns
> of multicasting.  The 'comment' is a bit of a rant,
> saying that if something as vital as this is disabled there
> should be some way of alerting you to it.

Hmmmsorry I do not have this, but how do you switch this on?  Does anyone 
know?

> >
> Btw, I went and disabled selinux using
> >
>  system-config-selinux but the printers were still not
> discovered. I have
> >
>  reverted it back to enforcing, but I wonder what the
> problem is, and how
> >
>  to troubleshoot it.
> >
> 
> That
> rules out SELinux, then.  If you haven't done so, check
> firewalls - but I think someone already told you to do
> that.

Yes, I poked holes to allow the samba and ipp clients through, as well as the 
ipp server. Trouble is, I do not understand what to look for. How do I trouble 
shoot when the messages in /var/log/messages do not appear to be beyond the 
information I provided. Is there any other place to look at?

The ubuntu machine seems to do just fine in discovering the network printers: I 
am just trying to understand what is going on here.

Best wishes,
T


  

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Re: Why does laptop battery show < 100% charge

2009-09-17 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 16:52 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: 
> 2009/9/17 Matthew Saltzman :
> > The Lenovo power monitor on the XP side of my dual-boot laptop
> > recommends not starting the charge cycle until the charge drops to 80%.
> > I've been considering filing an RFE for the GNOME power manager applet
> > to make that a user-settable parameter.
> 
> We'd need kernel support first...

OK What's the best way to request that?  Would it get generated as a
consequence of the power manager RFE?  Or should I file it separately?
Anything special about kernel feature requests?
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Fonts ??

2009-09-17 Thread Jim

Fedora 11/KDE4.3

I have wine running a program in FC11/KDE4.3 when it's displayed the 
fonts are all messed up on Fedora/KDE.
Wine doesn't supply fonts for display in Fedora and below is the Fonts I 
have installed on Fedora, What could I be missing in the way of Fonts to 
display this Windows Program "FullTiltPoker"


What about TrueType Fonts, where do you get them for Fedora ?


thai-scalable-kinnari-fonts-0.4.11-3.fc11.noarch
un-core-fonts-dotum-1.0.2-0.8.080608.fc11.noarch
lohit-punjabi-fonts-2.4.0-1.fc11.noarch
thai-scalable-loma-fonts-0.4.11-3.fc11.noarch
lohit-telugu-fonts-2.4.0-1.fc11.noarch
liberation-fonts-common-1.04.93-10.fc11.noarch
vlgothic-fonts-common-20090612-1.fc11.noarch
liberation-sans-fonts-1.04.93-10.fc11.noarch
thai-scalable-fonts-compat-0.4.11-3.fc11.noarch
lohit-hindi-fonts-2.4.0-1.fc11.noarch
bitmap-fonts-0.3-7.fc11.noarch
thai-scalable-tlwgtypo-fonts-0.4.11-3.fc11.noarch
lohit-maithili-fonts-2.4.0-1.fc11.noarch
texlive-texmf-errata-fonts-2007-6.fc11.noarch
lohit-fonts-common-2.4.0-1.fc11.noarch
thai-scalable-garuda-fonts-0.4.11-3.fc11.noarch
liberation-fonts-compat-1.04.93-10.fc11.noarch
smc-meera-fonts-04.1-6.fc11.noarch
paktype-fonts-2.0-3.fc11.noarch
cjkuni-uming-fonts-0.2.20080216.1-26.fc11.noarch
liberation-mono-fonts-1.04.93-10.fc11.noarch
thai-scalable-waree-fonts-0.4.11-3.fc11.noarch
thai-scalable-norasi-fonts-0.4.11-3.fc11.noarch
lohit-bengali-fonts-2.4.0-1.fc11.noarch
lohit-kannada-fonts-2.4.0-1.fc11.noarch
abyssinica-fonts-1.0-4.fc11.noarch
urw-fonts-2.4-7.fc11.noarch
xorg-x11-fonts-misc-7.2-8.fc11.noarch
dejavu-sans-fonts-2.29-2.fc11.noarch
thai-scalable-umpush-fonts-0.4.11-3.fc11.noarch
openoffice.org-opensymbol-fonts-3.1.1-19.2.fc11.i586
jomolhari-fonts-0.003-7.fc11.noarch
khmeros-base-fonts-5.0-6.fc11.noarch
kacst-fonts-2.0-2.fc11.noarch
khmeros-fonts-common-5.0-6.fc11.noarch
dejavu-serif-fonts-2.29-2.fc11.noarch
thai-scalable-tlwgmono-fonts-0.4.11-3.fc11.noarch
dejavu-fonts-compat-2.29-2.fc11.noarch
stix-fonts-0.9-12.fc11.noarch
lohit-tamil-fonts-2.4.0-1.fc11.noarch
ghostscript-fonts-5.50-20.fc11.noarch
liberation-serif-fonts-1.04.93-10.fc11.noarch
thai-scalable-tlwgtypist-fonts-0.4.11-3.fc11.noarch
padauk-fonts-2.4-3.fc11.noarch
thai-scalable-fonts-common-0.4.11-3.fc11.noarch
dejavu-fonts-common-2.29-2.fc11.noarch
smc-fonts-common-04.1-6.fc11.noarch
dejavu-sans-mono-fonts-2.29-2.fc11.noarch
thai-scalable-tlwgtypewriter-fonts-0.4.11-3.fc11.noarch
lohit-gujarati-fonts-2.4.0-1.fc11.noarch
wine-fonts-1.1.29-1.fc11.noarch
thai-scalable-sawasdee-fonts-0.4.11-3.fc11.noarch
vlgothic-fonts-20090612-1.fc11.noarch
thai-scalable-purisa-fonts-0.4.11-3.fc11.noarch
lohit-oriya-fonts-2.4.0-1.fc11.noarch
lklug-fonts-0.2.2-9.fc11.noarch
texlive-texmf-fonts-2007-28.fc11.noarch

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Fedora 11 - Kernel 2.6.29 to 2.6.31

2009-09-17 Thread Ramesh.R
Hi Everybody,

We are having the x86 PC with Fedora 11 ( which comes with kernel 2.6.29)
installed.

Now we want to upgrade its Kernel to 2.6.31.

We tried as per the 'README' installation notes comes with the 2.6.31
kernel, but failed in our attempt. Could you please help us on upgrading
Kernel 2.6.31 to our Fedora 11 environment.

Thanks in Advance.

Regards,
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Re: Fedora 11 - Kernel 2.6.29 to 2.6.31

2009-09-17 Thread Globe Trotter


--- On Thu, 9/17/09, Ramesh.R  wrote:

> From: Ramesh.R 
> Subject: Fedora 11 - Kernel 2.6.29 to 2.6.31
> To: fedora-list@redhat.com
> Cc: ram...@arasan.com, thangave...@arasan.com
> Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 1:14 PM
> 
> Hi Everybody,
> We are having the x86 PC with Fedora 11 ( which
> comes with kernel 2.6.29) installed.
> Now we want to upgrade its Kernel to
> 2.6.31. 
> 
> 
> We tried as per the 'README'
> installation notes comes with the 2.6.31 kernel, but failed
> in our attempt. Could you please help us on upgrading
> Kernel 2.6.31 to our Fedora 11 environment.
> 
> 
> Thanks in Advance.
> Regards,
> Ramesh

The latest kernel on Fedora is a 2.6.30 version. Why do you need 2.6.31? In any 
case, if you really need that, you may get it from the rawhide repository.

yum --enablerepo rawhide install kernel

HTH,
T


  

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Re: Fedora 11 - Kernel 2.6.29 to 2.6.31

2009-09-17 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 09/17/2009 01:14 PM, Ramesh.R wrote:
> 
> Hi Everybody,
> 
> We are having the x86 PC with Fedora 11 ( which comes with kernel
> 2.6.29) installed.
> 
> Now we want to upgrade its Kernel to 2.6.31. 
> 
> We tried as per the 'README' installation notes comes with the 2.6.31
> kernel, but failed in our attempt. Could you please help us on upgrading
> Kernel 2.6.31 to our Fedora 11 environment.

The current kernel for F11 is 2.6.30.5-43  (Do a "yum update" in order
to get it.)

That means it is a full 2.6.30.5 kernel with a number of patches applied
by Fedora that could come from development kernels upstream (could be
bug fixes, could be new functionality...).  What is it you think you
need in a 2.6.31 kernel?  And do you know that it isn't already in the
2.6.30.5-43 that Fedora provides?

> Thanks in Advance.
> 
> Regards,
> Ramesh

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Re: discovering network printers on F11

2009-09-17 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 09:35 -0700, Globe Trotter wrote:
> > had mis-remembered.  What it actually said (page 10, if you
> > have LXF 124, November) was that the firewall by default turns
> > of multicasting.  The 'comment' is a bit of a rant,
> > saying that if something as vital as this is disabled there
> > should be some way of alerting you to it.
> 
> Hmmmsorry I do not have this, but how do you switch this on?  Does
> anyone know?
> 
> > >
> > Btw, I went and disabled selinux using
> > >
> >  system-config-selinux but the printers were still not
> > discovered. I have
> > >
> >  reverted it back to enforcing, but I wonder what the
> > problem is, and how
> > >
> >  to troubleshoot it.
> > >
> > 
> > That
> > rules out SELinux, then.  If you haven't done so, check
> > firewalls - but I think someone already told you to do
> > that.
> 
> Yes, I poked holes to allow the samba and ipp clients through, as well
> as the ipp server. Trouble is, I do not understand what to look for.
> How do I trouble shoot when the messages in /var/log/messages do not
> appear to be beyond the information I provided. Is there any other
> place to look at?
> 
> The ubuntu machine seems to do just fine in discovering the network
> printers: I am just trying to understand what is going on here.

one of the problems with an active list is that you don't always know
whose advice to follow and who is just taking shots in the dark.

When it comes to printing ALWAYS follow Tim Waugh's advice because he is
Red Hat/Fedora printing man. As far as I can tell, you ignored his
advice and chased down everyone else's.

You probably haven't enabled your system to discover network servers but
I think Tim suggested that you run the 'printing troubleshooter'

Craig


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Re: Fonts ??

2009-09-17 Thread Jim

On 09/17/2009 01:01 PM, Jim wrote:

Fedora 11/KDE4.3

I have wine running a program in FC11/KDE4.3 when it's displayed the 
fonts are all messed up on Fedora/KDE.
Wine doesn't supply fonts for display in Fedora and below is the Fonts 
I have installed on Fedora, What could I be missing in the way of 
Fonts to display this Windows Program "FullTiltPoker"


What about TrueType Fonts, where do you get them for Fedora ?


thai-scalable-kinnari-fonts-0.4.11-3.fc11.noarch
un-core-fonts-dotum-1.0.2-0.8.080608.fc11.noarch
lohit-punjabi-fonts-2.4.0-1.fc11.noarch
thai-scalable-loma-fonts-0.4.11-3.fc11.noarch
lohit-telugu-fonts-2.4.0-1.fc11.noarch
liberation-fonts-common-1.04.93-10.fc11.noarch
vlgothic-fonts-common-20090612-1.fc11.noarch
liberation-sans-fonts-1.04.93-10.fc11.noarch
thai-scalable-fonts-compat-0.4.11-3.fc11.noarch
lohit-hindi-fonts-2.4.0-1.fc11.noarch
bitmap-fonts-0.3-7.fc11.noarch
thai-scalable-tlwgtypo-fonts-0.4.11-3.fc11.noarch
lohit-maithili-fonts-2.4.0-1.fc11.noarch
texlive-texmf-errata-fonts-2007-6.fc11.noarch
lohit-fonts-common-2.4.0-1.fc11.noarch
thai-scalable-garuda-fonts-0.4.11-3.fc11.noarch
liberation-fonts-compat-1.04.93-10.fc11.noarch
smc-meera-fonts-04.1-6.fc11.noarch
paktype-fonts-2.0-3.fc11.noarch
cjkuni-uming-fonts-0.2.20080216.1-26.fc11.noarch
liberation-mono-fonts-1.04.93-10.fc11.noarch
thai-scalable-waree-fonts-0.4.11-3.fc11.noarch
thai-scalable-norasi-fonts-0.4.11-3.fc11.noarch
lohit-bengali-fonts-2.4.0-1.fc11.noarch
lohit-kannada-fonts-2.4.0-1.fc11.noarch
abyssinica-fonts-1.0-4.fc11.noarch
urw-fonts-2.4-7.fc11.noarch
xorg-x11-fonts-misc-7.2-8.fc11.noarch
dejavu-sans-fonts-2.29-2.fc11.noarch
thai-scalable-umpush-fonts-0.4.11-3.fc11.noarch
openoffice.org-opensymbol-fonts-3.1.1-19.2.fc11.i586
jomolhari-fonts-0.003-7.fc11.noarch
khmeros-base-fonts-5.0-6.fc11.noarch
kacst-fonts-2.0-2.fc11.noarch
khmeros-fonts-common-5.0-6.fc11.noarch
dejavu-serif-fonts-2.29-2.fc11.noarch
thai-scalable-tlwgmono-fonts-0.4.11-3.fc11.noarch
dejavu-fonts-compat-2.29-2.fc11.noarch
stix-fonts-0.9-12.fc11.noarch
lohit-tamil-fonts-2.4.0-1.fc11.noarch
ghostscript-fonts-5.50-20.fc11.noarch
liberation-serif-fonts-1.04.93-10.fc11.noarch
thai-scalable-tlwgtypist-fonts-0.4.11-3.fc11.noarch
padauk-fonts-2.4-3.fc11.noarch
thai-scalable-fonts-common-0.4.11-3.fc11.noarch
dejavu-fonts-common-2.29-2.fc11.noarch
smc-fonts-common-04.1-6.fc11.noarch
dejavu-sans-mono-fonts-2.29-2.fc11.noarch
thai-scalable-tlwgtypewriter-fonts-0.4.11-3.fc11.noarch
lohit-gujarati-fonts-2.4.0-1.fc11.noarch
wine-fonts-1.1.29-1.fc11.noarch
thai-scalable-sawasdee-fonts-0.4.11-3.fc11.noarch
vlgothic-fonts-20090612-1.fc11.noarch
thai-scalable-purisa-fonts-0.4.11-3.fc11.noarch
lohit-oriya-fonts-2.4.0-1.fc11.noarch
lklug-fonts-0.2.2-9.fc11.noarch
texlive-texmf-fonts-2007-28.fc11.noarch


THanks very much for your help Guys.

But !! It's Called  FreeType1 Fonts from your Fedora Repo or is it 
Rpmfusion.org?


So if you ever run Wine it would pay to Install FreeType1 Fonts.

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Re: Fonts ??

2009-09-17 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:01:36 -0400
Jim wrote:

> What about TrueType Fonts, where do you get them for Fedora ?

You may need msttcorefonts, which can easily be found with a google search.

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Re: Fedora 11 - Kernel 2.6.29 to 2.6.31

2009-09-17 Thread NoSpaze
On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 22:44 +0530, Ramesh.R wrote:
> Hi Everybody,
> We are having the x86 PC with Fedora 11 ( which comes with kernel
> 2.6.29) installed.
> Now we want to upgrade its Kernel to 2.6.31. 
> We tried as per the 'README' installation notes comes with the 2.6.31
> kernel, but failed in our attempt. Could you please help us
> on upgrading Kernel 2.6.31 to our Fedora 11 environment.

* Make sure your computer connection to the Internet works fine.

* Open a terminal (Menu, Applications, System tools, Terminal) and
write (exactly), it will ask you for your password. Enter it:

su -

* write (exactly):

yum -y update kernel

* That's it. Good luck...
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Re: discovering network printers on F11

2009-09-17 Thread Globe Trotter


--- On Thu, 9/17/09, Craig White  wrote:

> From: Craig White 
> Subject: Re: discovering network printers on F11
> To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." 
> 
> Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 1:37 PM
> On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 09:35 -0700,
> Globe Trotter wrote:
> > > had mis-remembered.  What it actually said
> (page 10, if you
> > > have LXF 124, November) was that the firewall by
> default turns
> > > of multicasting.  The 'comment' is a bit of
> a rant,
> > > saying that if something as vital as this is
> disabled there
> > > should be some way of alerting you to it.
> > 
> > Hmmmsorry I do not have this, but how do you
> switch this on?  Does
> > anyone know?
> > 
> > > >
> > > Btw, I went and disabled selinux using
> > > >
> > >  system-config-selinux but the printers were
> still not
> > > discovered. I have
> > > >
> > >  reverted it back to enforcing, but I wonder
> what the
> > > problem is, and how
> > > >
> > >  to troubleshoot it.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > That
> > > rules out SELinux, then.  If you haven't
> done so, check
> > > firewalls - but I think someone already told you
> to do
> > > that.
> > 
> > Yes, I poked holes to allow the samba and ipp clients
> through, as well
> > as the ipp server. Trouble is, I do not understand
> what to look for.
> > How do I trouble shoot when the messages in
> /var/log/messages do not
> > appear to be beyond the information I provided. Is
> there any other
> > place to look at?
> > 
> > The ubuntu machine seems to do just fine in
> discovering the network
> > printers: I am just trying to understand what is going
> on here.
> 
> one of the problems with an active list is that you don't
> always know
> whose advice to follow and who is just taking shots in the
> dark.
> 
> When it comes to printing ALWAYS follow Tim Waugh's advice
> because he is
> Red Hat/Fedora printing man. As far as I can tell, you
> ignored his
> advice and chased down everyone else's.
> 
> You probably haven't enabled your system to discover
> network servers but
> I think Tim suggested that you run the 'printing
> troubleshooter'

Hi,

I did not know that Tim was the printing man, but I did run the "printing 
troubleshooter" (which for me is the Troubleshoot button on 
system-config-printer, is that the right thing?) Sorry to be naive, but how 
does one enable the system to discover network servers?

Thanks very much, everybody, for all the help and advice.

T


  

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Alt + f4 switches to virtual terminal

2009-09-17 Thread Philip Munksgaard
Hi

I installed Fedora 11 today on my laptop, and i'm quite liking it so far.

I have one small problem though: When i try to close windows by pressing alt
+ f4, i Fedora switches to a virtual terminal, as if i was pressing ctrl +
alt + f4. And it's the same with all function keys.
This is quite annoying, and i'm pretty sure it's not supposed to be like
that, so i figured i might ask for help here.

Apart from all that, i've also noticed that alt + left/right arrow switches
terminals as well.

Does anyone have a clue as to why this is happening?
I'd be very glad if anyone could help me resolve this issue, as it's quite
annoying getting thrown into a terminal every few minutes...

Thanks in advance
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Re: Alt + f4 switches to virtual terminal

2009-09-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 21:50 +0200, Philip Munksgaard wrote:
> Does anyone have a clue as to why this is happening?
> I'd be very glad if anyone could help me resolve this issue, as it's
> quite annoying getting thrown into a terminal every few minutes...

This is almost certainly a function of your desktop environment, but you
don't say what it is (KDE?, Gnome?, other?).

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Re: grub in mbr needs bootable flag

2009-09-17 Thread Sharpe, Sam J
2009/9/17 Herbert Gasiorowski :
> Im using a kickstart installation with my own partitioning.
> I had no problems with Fedora 10 but now on f11 grub will not start without
> a bootable flag set on any partition.
>
> It nearly looks as if grub is installed in some partition but I am quite
> shure that the old MSDOS MBR is overwritten.
>
> Is there a way to check if grub is installed in the MBR?
> Or is it a bug in grub?
>
> (kickstart option is: "bootloader --location=mbr")

If it's in the MBR, when you do this:

dd if=/dev/sda count=1 bs=512 2>/dev/null | strings | grep GRUB

It should say "GRUB" - if it doesn't, it's not there.


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Re: Update to 2.6.30.5-43.fc11.i586 duplex problem

2009-09-17 Thread James Wilkinson
Anton Buenavista wrote:
> I disabled rhgb and quiet at boot.
> 
> The boot process exactly stops at "Registering binary handler for
> Windows applications". I think this is a Wine issue.

Does it get as far as the “[  OK  ]” at the end of that line? If not,
then blame Wine. If it has the “[  OK  ]”, then it could be the next
script. Check in /etc/rc5.d to see what’s next:
ls /etc/rc5.d | grep -A1 S98wine | tail -n 1

Having said that, the only “next” script in my install is the
essentially empty S99local, after which Fedora starts X. You could put
an
echo Hello
into S99local, to see if it gets that far. I suspect it will.

The next thing to try (if that “OK” did come up) is booting 2.6.30
without rhgb, reboot when it hangs, and look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old 

Firstly do a ls -l on it to check that the log actually comes from the
time when you booted the 2.6.30 kernel, then look at the file itself to
see how far it gets. Compare with the Xorg.0.log file (which should be
from your successful 2.6.29 boot).

You may want to report back here, but you’re getting near the point
where you’ll have to bugzilla it.

Hope this helps,

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Re: Why does laptop battery show < 100% charge

2009-09-17 Thread James Wilkinson
Jatin K wrote:
> please visit *http://www.batteryuniversity.com/* .. and gain
> some knowledge abt batteries

Was that supposed to be general advice? (If so, thank-you – but I’m not
sure why it was necessary.)

Or did you feel that there was some mis-information being given out? In
which case, a general link to a site doesn’t make your point – we can’t
tell, looking at that site, what your point was. And few readers will
have the time to follow every helpful link.

So could you elucidate further?

Thank you!

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Re: Alt + f4 switches to virtual terminal

2009-09-17 Thread James Wilkinson
Philip Munksgaard wrote:
> I installed Fedora 11 today on my laptop, and i'm quite liking it so far.
> 
> I have one small problem though: When i try to close windows by pressing alt
> + f4, i Fedora switches to a virtual terminal, as if i was pressing ctrl +
> alt + f4. And it's the same with all function keys.
> This is quite annoying, and i'm pretty sure it's not supposed to be like
> that, so i figured i might ask for help here.
> 
> Apart from all that, i've also noticed that alt + left/right arrow switches
> terminals as well.

Probably a silly question, but do you have two “Alt” keys on your
keyboard? Does it work the same if you use either “Alt” key?

James.

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Re: simple way to build rpm?

2009-09-17 Thread James Wilkinson
Fernando Cassia wrote:
> The HP inkjet drivers (HPLIP) is one example of a "fire and forget"
> installer that just detects "where am I? what platform is this? what
> compilers do I have available? is the build environment safe? are the
> additional required packages available? (if not it fetches those)",
> etc.

This is a great example of why packaging *isn’t* something that can be
done automatically. The installer is in the same position as an RPM
package.

To make the installer “fire and forget”, HP had to put a lot of work
into making it “just detect” things. RPM does it better, but you still
need to put the effort into creating the package so that it’s simple to
use for the package end-user.

James.

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Re: grub in mbr needs bootable flag

2009-09-17 Thread Mikkel
Herbert Gasiorowski wrote:
> Im using a kickstart installation with my own partitioning.
> I had no problems with Fedora 10 but now on f11 grub will not start
> without a bootable flag set on any partition.
> 
> It nearly looks as if grub is installed in some partition but I am quite
> shure that the old MSDOS MBR is overwritten.
> 
> Is there a way to check if grub is installed in the MBR?
> Or is it a bug in grub?
> 
> (kickstart option is: "bootloader --location=mbr")
> 
Dumb question - Is this a new install on a machine that had been
running Fedora 10, or is this another machine? The reason I ask is
that I have run into BIOSs that will not boot if one partition is
not marked bootable.

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Ati Drivers ??

2009-09-17 Thread Jim

FC 11
Where is the kmod-fglrx drivers in FC11.

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Re: Ati Drivers ??

2009-09-17 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 09/17/2009 08:01 PM, Jim wrote:
> FC 11
> Where is the kmod-fglrx drivers in FC11.

The name has changed (didn't you see all the discussion on this list
about that?)  [sarcasm off].

I think you want to look for kmod-catalyst now.

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kmod-catalyst problems

2009-09-17 Thread Jim

FC11/kde-4.3

Can't get my ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 AGP  1002:5C63 working with

kmod-catalyst


Attached is the Xorg.0.log and dmesg

X.Org X Server 1.6.3
Release Date: 2009-7-31
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.18-128.4.1.el5 i686 
Current Operating System: Linux ferrells 2.6.27.30-170.2.82.fc10.i686 #1 SMP 
Mon Aug 17 08:38:59 EDT 2009 i686
Kernel command line: ro root=UUID=0fd747e4-3fd0-4f01-84d0-718702893430 rhgb 
quiet
Build Date: 19 August 2009  12:30:16AM
Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.6.3-4.fc11 
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Thu Sep 17 16:35:46 2009
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(==) ServerLayout "single head configuration"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Monitor0"
(**) |   |-->Device "Videocard0"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0"
(**) Option "AIGLX" "on"
(==) Automatically adding devices
(==) Automatically enabling devices
(==) FontPath set to:
catalogue:/etc/X11/fontpath.d,
built-ins
(**) ModulePath set to 
"/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/catalyst,/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
(**) Extension "Composite" is enabled
(II) Cannot locate a core pointer device.
(II) The server relies on HAL to provide the list of input devices.
If no devices become available, reconfigure HAL or disable 
AllowEmptyInput.
(WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or 'vmmouse' 
will be disabled.
(WW) Disabling Keyboard0
(II) Loader magic: 0xa40
(II) Module ABI versions:
X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
X.Org Video Driver: 5.0
X.Org XInput driver : 4.0
X.Org Server Extension : 2.0
(II) Loader running on linux
(++) using VT number 1

(--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 1002:5c63:148c:0640 ATI Technologies Inc M9+ 5C63 [Radeon 
Mobility 9200 (AGP)] rev 1, Mem @ 0xd000/268435456, 0xe900/65536, I/O @ 
0xd000/256, BIOS @ 0x/131072
(II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel
(II) System resource ranges:
[0] -1  0   0x - 0x (0x1) MX[B]
[1] -1  0   0x000f - 0x000f (0x1) MX[B]
[2] -1  0   0x000c - 0x000e (0x3) MX[B]
[3] -1  0   0x - 0x0009 (0xa) MX[B]
[4] -1  0   0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
[5] -1  0   0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
(II) LoadModule: "extmod"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libextmod.so
(II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.6.3, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension SELinux
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
(II) Loading extension DPMS
(II) Loading extension XVideo
(II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
(II) Loading extension X-Resource
(II) LoadModule: "dbe"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdbe.so
(II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.6.3, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
(II) LoadModule: "glx"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/catalyst//libglx.so
(II) Module glx: vendor="FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc."
compiled for 7.4.0, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading extension GLX
(II) LoadModule: "record"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//librecord.so
(II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.6.3, module version = 1.13.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension RECORD
(II) LoadModule: "dri"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/catalyst//libdri.so
(II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 7.4.0, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
(II) Loading sub module "fglrxdrm"
(II) LoadModule: "fglrxdrm"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/linux//libfglrxdrm.so
(II) Module fglrxdrm: vendor="FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc."
compiled for 1.4.99.906, module version = 8.64.3
(II) LoadModule: "dri2"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri2.so
(II) Module dri2: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.6.3, module version = 1.1.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension DRI2
(II) LoadModule: "fglrx"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx_drv.so
(II) Module fglrx: vendor="FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc."
compiled for 1.4.99.906, module version = 8.64.3
  

Re: kmod-catalyst problems

2009-09-17 Thread Jim

On 09/17/2009 09:44 PM, Jim wrote:

FC11/kde-4.3

Can't get my ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 AGP  1002:5C63 working with

kmod-catalyst


Attached is the Xorg.0.log and dmesg


I made a mistake and sent the wrong dmesg and Xorg.0.log, they where for 
the wrong kernel. below is correct kernel.



X.Org X Server 1.6.3
Release Date: 2009-7-31
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.18-128.4.1.el5 i686 
Current Operating System: Linux ferrells 2.6.30.5-43.fc11.i586 #1 SMP Thu Aug 
27 21:18:54 EDT 2009 i686
Kernel command line: ro root=UUID=0fd747e4-3fd0-4f01-84d0-718702893430 rhgb 
quiet
Build Date: 19 August 2009  12:30:16AM
Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.6.3-4.fc11 
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Thu Sep 17 18:06:11 2009
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(==) ServerLayout "single head configuration"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Monitor0"
(**) |   |-->Device "Videocard0"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0"
(**) Option "AIGLX" "on"
(==) Automatically adding devices
(==) Automatically enabling devices
(==) FontPath set to:
catalogue:/etc/X11/fontpath.d,
built-ins
(**) ModulePath set to 
"/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/catalyst,/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
(**) Extension "Composite" is enabled
(II) Cannot locate a core pointer device.
(II) The server relies on HAL to provide the list of input devices.
If no devices become available, reconfigure HAL or disable 
AllowEmptyInput.
(WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or 'vmmouse' 
will be disabled.
(WW) Disabling Keyboard0
(II) Loader magic: 0xa40
(II) Module ABI versions:
X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
X.Org Video Driver: 5.0
X.Org XInput driver : 4.0
X.Org Server Extension : 2.0
(II) Loader running on linux
(++) using VT number 1

(--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 1002:5c63:148c:0640 ATI Technologies Inc M9+ 5C63 [Radeon 
Mobility 9200 (AGP)] rev 1, Mem @ 0xd000/268435456, 0xe900/65536, I/O @ 
0xd000/256, BIOS @ 0x/131072
(II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel
(II) System resource ranges:
[0] -1  0   0x - 0x (0x1) MX[B]
[1] -1  0   0x000f - 0x000f (0x1) MX[B]
[2] -1  0   0x000c - 0x000e (0x3) MX[B]
[3] -1  0   0x - 0x0009 (0xa) MX[B]
[4] -1  0   0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
[5] -1  0   0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
(II) LoadModule: "extmod"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libextmod.so
(II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.6.3, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension SELinux
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
(II) Loading extension DPMS
(II) Loading extension XVideo
(II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
(II) Loading extension X-Resource
(II) LoadModule: "dbe"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdbe.so
(II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.6.3, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
(II) LoadModule: "glx"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/catalyst//libglx.so
(II) Module glx: vendor="FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc."
compiled for 7.4.0, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading extension GLX
(II) LoadModule: "record"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//librecord.so
(II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.6.3, module version = 1.13.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension RECORD
(II) LoadModule: "dri"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/catalyst//libdri.so
(II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 7.4.0, module version = 1.0.0
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
(II) Loading sub module "fglrxdrm"
(II) LoadModule: "fglrxdrm"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/linux//libfglrxdrm.so
(II) Module fglrxdrm: vendor="FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc."
compiled for 1.4.99.906, module version = 8.64.3
(II) LoadModule: "dri2"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri2.so
(II) Module dri2: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.6.3, module version = 1.1.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension DRI2
(II) LoadModule: "fglrx"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/mo

Re: pseudo terminals

2009-09-17 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 17Sep2009 18:19, devi  wrote:
| On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 08:09 +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote:
| > On 16Sep2009 19:43, devi  wrote:
| > | On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 11:18 +0100, Dave Mitchell wrote:
| > | > On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 03:06:09PM -0400, devi wrote:
| > | > >   The command 
| > | > > echo "service httpd status " > /dev/pts/1 is executed on one terminal,
| > | > > let us assume it as t1.  
| > | > > The echo command is executed on t1 but the output(service httpd 
status"
| > | > > is directed to /dev/pts/1 terminal.
| > | > > 
| > | > > What I am saying is that the output  is redirected directly to the
| > | > > terminal /dev/pts1/1.
| > | > > The output here is "service httpd status", which is generally a 
command.
| > | > > And so it gets executed.
| > | > 
| > | > No, the text just appears in the terminal associated with /dev/pts1/1;
| > | > it does not not cause the command to be executed. That is to say,
| > | > you can't use this as a mechanism to insert characters into a another
| > | > terminal's input buffer.
| > | > 
| > | But the command got executed, and it gave the status of apache
| > | on /dev/pts/1 terminal.
| > 
| > That's quite interesting. It should _not_ cause the command to be
| > executed, and I really believe something more is going on.
| > 
| > /dev/pts/1 is the "slave" side of the pseudoterminal; all pseudoterminals
| > have a "master" side and a "slave" side.
| 
| Here, the /dev/pts/1 is the tty of a virtual machine.  This virtual
| machine is created by xen.
| Yes, I have come across master and slave pseudo terminals, but I have
| not set any anything like that.

Ah, ok. I have not used such a setup. However, it looks like Xen
arranges the master slave setup. What it presents is like a crossover
terminal connection. /dev/pts/1 is cross wired to the temrinal inside the Xen
VM; functionally it will behave like the "master" side of a pseudo tty.
Internally it will really be a pseudoterminal, with Xen as the master,
and Xen passes stuff through to the VM for you.

As, indeed, you have shown it does.

| I have done, what you suggested, it's the same.  Anyways my requirement
| is that, after the command is executed on /dev/pts/1, I should be able
| to get the return value on the terminal "t1"
| 
| eg:
|   rc=`echo "service httpd status" > /dev/pts/1"
| I thought rc will hold the return value, but it displays nothing.

Ok.

I believe, based on your description, that reading from /dev/pts/1
will collect the output you want.

Try this:

  tee -a output.log /dev/null &
  teepid=$!
  echo "service httpd status" >/dev/pts/1
  sleep 5
  kill $teepid

and then look at the file output.log.

Your `echo  >/dev/pts/1` incantation did not contain the output
because it collects the output of "echo" (specificly, any output not
send elsewhere; your >/dev/pts/1 sends it elsewhere and so the output
is empty).

Nothing was reading from the pty.

What my suggestion above does is start a "tee" command in the background
to read from the pty and copy the data to the file output.log. Then
we run your echo, to run the command on the VM. Then we wait a few
seconds. Then we kill the "tee" command.

Commentry:

- a simpler command than the "tee" would be:
cat /dev/pts/1 >output.log &
  however, "cat" (like almost all other programs) will be buffering its
  output for efficiency purposes, so it will never write to output.log
  before we kill it. "tee" does not buffer.

- the output recorded in output.log (if the above stuff works for you)
  will be the data stream sent to the terminal. That is, it will
  probably end lines with both CR and NL characters. Many rc files
  will emit coloured text in their output if on a terminal; your
  output.log file will contain the terminal escape sequences used to
  drive those colours. And so forth.

- you have no real indication of when the "service httpd status" command
  finishes, hence the dodgy "sleep 5" above.

You would be far better connecting to the VM with a remote command tool
like ssh.

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  The Chief Priest had been in the temple for many years and could be relied
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His Master is kind,
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Re: Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces

2009-09-17 Thread Michael Hennebry

On Sun, 30 Aug 2009, Michael Hennebry wrote:


Is there an nvidia driver that allows suspend to
disk and does not experience extreme slowness?


More precisely, is there an nvidia driver
that does not experience extreme slowness?

I've had trouble getting flash to play right
either through firefox or through mplayer.
Most recently mplayer told me that my system was to slow.
It made suggestions that were scrolled
off the screen by many cpoies of

AO: [pulse] pa_stream_get_latency() failed: Connection terminated
AO: [pulse] pa_stream_write() failed: Connection terminated.4% 1312 0


I'm running a recent install of F11 on a 3 GHz
pentium 4 with hyperthreading, 4G of memory
and F11's video driver.
So far, it has not made me happy.
[henne...@localhost Cache]$ uname -a
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.29.6-217.2.16.fc11.i686.PAE #1 SMP Mon Aug 24 
17:16:21 EDT 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[henne...@localhost Cache]$
The GEForce nvidia card and the 4G of memory are
not original equipment, but they predate F11.

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GoogleEarthLinux and Fedora11

2009-09-17 Thread Claude Jones
Maybe I should have left well enough alone, but I decided to install the 
latest GoogleEarth this morning; ver 4 was working well, but I had experienced 
some features from ver 5 in Windows that I liked. There were no error messages 
during the install but if I try to run it I get: 

googleearth
./googleearth-bin: ./libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.9' not found 
(required by ./libgoogleearth_lib.so)
./googleearth-bin: ./libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.9' not found 
(required by ./libbase.so)

If I query my installed programs:

rpm -qa | grep libstdc++
libstdc++-4.4.1-2.fc11.i586
libstdc++-devel-4.4.1-2.fc11.i586

Surely, GoogleEarth does not require that I regress that lib version, does it? 
Anyone have ver5 running under Fedora11? Or, has glibcxx been removed from 
libstdc++? I'm not sure how to continue this investigation - any help 
appreciated...
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Re: Fedora 11 - Kernel 2.6.29 to 2.6.31

2009-09-17 Thread Ramesh.R
Hi,
Thanks to Globe Trotter, Kevin & Rodolfo for all your timely answers.
We will do as per one and all of your suggestions..

We will keep on posting the progress. Thanks to all...


Best Regards,
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On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 11:16 PM, NoSpaze  wrote:

> On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 22:44 +0530, Ramesh.R wrote:
> > Hi Everybody,
> > We are having the x86 PC with Fedora 11 ( which comes with kernel
> > 2.6.29) installed.
> > Now we want to upgrade its Kernel to 2.6.31.
> > We tried as per the 'README' installation notes comes with the 2.6.31
> > kernel, but failed in our attempt. Could you please help us
> > on upgrading Kernel 2.6.31 to our Fedora 11 environment.
>
> * Make sure your computer connection to the Internet works fine.
>
> * Open a terminal (Menu, Applications, System tools, Terminal) and
> write (exactly), it will ask you for your password. Enter it:
>
> su -
>
> * write (exactly):
>
> yum -y update kernel
>
> * That's it. Good luck...
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After update Xorg server crashes

2009-09-17 Thread Simion Onea
Hi!
Today I updated my system. The following packages were installed:
Sep 18 07:55:50 Installed: lyx-fonts-common-1.6.4-1.fc11.noarch
Sep 18 07:55:56 Updated: glib2-2.20.5-1.fc11.x86_64
Sep 18 07:55:58 Updated: glib2-2.20.5-1.fc11.i586
Sep 18 07:56:04 Updated: gtk2-2.16.6-2.fc11.x86_64
Sep 18 07:56:06 Updated: crda-1.1.0_2009.09.08-2.fc11.x86_64
Sep 18 07:56:06 Installed: lyx-cmsy10-fonts-1.6.4-1.fc11.noarch
Sep 18 07:56:06 Installed: lyx-esint10-fonts-1.6.4-1.fc11.noarch
Sep 18 07:56:06 Installed: lyx-cmmi10-fonts-1.6.4-1.fc11.noarch
Sep 18 07:56:07 Installed: lyx-eufm10-fonts-1.6.4-1.fc11.noarch
Sep 18 07:56:07 Installed: lyx-msbm10-fonts-1.6.4-1.fc11.noarch
Sep 18 07:56:07 Installed: lyx-msam10-fonts-1.6.4-1.fc11.noarch
Sep 18 07:56:07 Installed: lyx-cmr10-fonts-1.6.4-1.fc11.noarch
Sep 18 07:56:08 Installed: lyx-cmex10-fonts-1.6.4-1.fc11.noarch
Sep 18 07:56:08 Installed: lyx-wasy10-fonts-1.6.4-1.fc11.noarch
Sep 18 07:56:08 Installed: lyx-fonts-compat-1.6.4-1.fc11.noarch
Sep 18 07:56:14 Updated: phpMyAdmin-3.2.2-1.fc11.noarch
Sep 18 07:56:17 Updated: gtk2-2.16.6-2.fc11.i586
Sep 18 07:56:24 Updated: coreutils-7.2-4.fc11.x86_64
Sep 18 07:56:27 Updated: util-linux-ng-2.14.2-10.fc11.x86_64
Sep 18 07:56:38 Erased: mathml-fonts

I have rebooted my system and after that I cannot log-in to my system
using the graphical interface. After I hit my username and enter the
password the screen turns black for a brief and then the login screen
appears again.
I switched to a text terminal and checked the "/var/log/messages".
Here are the related lines:
Sep 18 08:20:47 TestField pam: gdm-password[2308]:
pam_unix(gdm-password:session): session opened for user simion.onea by
(uid=0)
Sep 18 08:20:48 TestField pulseaudio[2784]: pid.c: Stale PID file, overwriting.
Sep 18 08:20:48 TestField kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev fuse, type
fuse), uses genfs_contexts
Sep 18 08:20:48 TestField pulseaudio[2852]: pid.c: Daemon already running.
Sep 18 08:20:49 TestField kernel: Xorg[2234]: segfault at 0 ip
004e8e0b sp 7fff6d026658 error 4 in Xorg[40+1b6000]
Sep 18 08:20:49 TestField pam: gdm-password[2308]:
pam_unix(gdm-password:session): session closed for user simion.onea
Sep 18 08:20:49 TestField gnome-keyring-daemon[2617]: dbus failure
unregistering from session: Connection is closed
Sep 18 08:20:49 TestField kernel: [drm] DAC-6: set mode 1280x1024 16

As you can see Xorg segfaults.

Has enybody encountered such an error?
What can be done in this case?

Regards,
Simion Onea.

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Re: GoogleEarthLinux and Fedora11

2009-09-17 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 01:27 -0400, Claude Jones wrote:
> Maybe I should have left well enough alone, but I decided to install the 
> latest GoogleEarth this morning; ver 4 was working well, but I had 
> experienced 
> some features from ver 5 in Windows that I liked. There were no error 
> messages 
> during the install but if I try to run it I get: 
> 
> googleearth
> ./googleearth-bin: ./libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.9' not found 
> (required by ./libgoogleearth_lib.so)
> ./googleearth-bin: ./libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.9' not found 
> (required by ./libbase.so)
> 
> If I query my installed programs:
> 
> rpm -qa | grep libstdc++
> libstdc++-4.4.1-2.fc11.i586
> libstdc++-devel-4.4.1-2.fc11.i586
> 
> Surely, GoogleEarth does not require that I regress that lib version, does 
> it? 
> Anyone have ver5 running under Fedora11? Or, has glibcxx been removed from 
> libstdc++? I'm not sure how to continue this investigation - any help 
> appreciated...

try 'yum search libstdc++'

you will find older 'compatibility' libraries which are probably what is
required.

Craig


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Re: After update Xorg server crashes

2009-09-17 Thread Jonathan Dieter
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Simion Onea  wrote:
> Hi!

> I have rebooted my system and after that I cannot log-in to my system
> using the graphical interface. After I hit my username and enter the
> password the screen turns black for a brief and then the login screen
> appears again.
> I switched to a text terminal and checked the "/var/log/messages".
> Here are the related lines:
> Sep 18 08:20:47 TestField pam: gdm-password[2308]:
> pam_unix(gdm-password:session): session opened for user simion.onea by
> (uid=0)
> Sep 18 08:20:48 TestField pulseaudio[2784]: pid.c: Stale PID file, 
> overwriting.
> Sep 18 08:20:48 TestField kernel: SELinux: initialized (dev fuse, type
> fuse), uses genfs_contexts
> Sep 18 08:20:48 TestField pulseaudio[2852]: pid.c: Daemon already running.
> Sep 18 08:20:49 TestField kernel: Xorg[2234]: segfault at 0 ip
> 004e8e0b sp 7fff6d026658 error 4 in Xorg[40+1b6000]
> Sep 18 08:20:49 TestField pam: gdm-password[2308]:
> pam_unix(gdm-password:session): session closed for user simion.onea
> Sep 18 08:20:49 TestField gnome-keyring-daemon[2617]: dbus failure
> unregistering from session: Connection is closed
> Sep 18 08:20:49 TestField kernel: [drm] DAC-6: set mode 1280x1024 16
>
> As you can see Xorg segfaults.
>
> Has enybody encountered such an error?
> What can be done in this case?

See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=518748, especially the
later comments.  There is an update that you can download directly
from koji.

Jonathan

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Re: GoogleEarthLinux and Fedora11

2009-09-17 Thread Mogens Kjaer

On 09/18/2009 07:27 AM, Claude Jones wrote:

I'm not sure how to continue this investigation - any help
appreciated...


http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/earth/thread?tid=0ab0ed80ed61cbfc&hl=en

cd /where/googleearth-bin/is/located
mv libstdc++.so.6 libstdc++.so.6.saveit
mv libgcc_s.so.1 libgcc_s.so.1.saveit

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Re: After update Xorg server crashes

2009-09-17 Thread Simion Onea
2009/9/18 Jonathan Dieter :
>
> See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=518748, especially the
> later comments.  There is an update that you can download directly
> from koji.
>
> Jonathan
>

Thanks a lot Jonathan!

It really helped. Commenting out the line 19 in /usr/bin/compiz-gtk
solved the issue!

Best regards,
Simion.

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