Signing RPMs

2009-11-10 Thread Jitesh Shah
So, I picked up the sign_unsigned.py script from releng. I replaced the keys in 
there with our keys, tweaked some minor stuff here and there and managed to get 
it running. 
I use it as 
./sign_unsigned.py --level level tag-name
and it runs alright. I can see that the signatures are cached under the 
sigcache directory (but NOT embedded in the rpms themselves, which makes sense 
since the rpm can probably be a part of different tags and might be signed 
differently within each tag)

So, I thought, well, mash would be the one which'll embed the keys in the rpms. 
So, I set strict_keys to True.. added my key to the keys list in my .mash file. 
mash has no problems with the rpms and it can verify the signatures alright. 
But, it still doesn't embed the signatures in the rpm (is it supposed to?). So, 
the created repository still has all rpms unsigned. 

What am I missing here? where to the rpms get signed actually?

Regards,
Jitesh

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[Fedora-cs-list] Re: Fedora-cs-list Digest, Vol 20, Issue 1

2009-11-10 Thread Jaroslav Apolenar
Diky za rady, uz jsem autorizovanej, neco jsem poslal, vic se budu venovat
pres vikend.

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 Ahoj Jarku,

 o vikendu jsem na RN delal i ja. Ted jsem je akorat nahral do
 Transifexu. Tak jen opatreneji, kdybys chtel take uploadnout sve zmeny,
 abys neprepsal moje.

 Muzes se samozrejme zkusit zeptat v ramci teto konference, muzes zkusit
 konzultovat i portal l10n.cz. Take muzes zkusit treba IRC kanál
 Fedora-cs na Freenode. Prekladam pro Fedoru take asi neco kolem pul
 roku, takze zhruba takhle postupuju ja. Ale mozna jsou tady ostrilenejsi
 vlci nez ja, kteri by mohli poradit (i mne ;).

 Pepa Hruška

  Původní zpráva 
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 Ahoj,

 do ceske konference jsem se uz zaregistroval, na ty Release Notes o
 vikendu mrknu, jeste si dovolim zacatecnickou otazku, kam smerovat me
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 Ahoj,

 diky za rady, s tema RN, aspon jsem si blize osahal Gtranslator a vyzkousel
 neco nanecisto :), zjistil, ze budu muset peclive kontrolovat, aby byl
 preklad konzistentni napric celou lokalizaci apod.

 Kazdopadne je tu jeste jedna dosti noobovska otazka, vubec se mi
 nezobrazuje
 tlacitko, kterym se nahraje cokoli do Transifexu (ano, jsem prihlasenej
 :)).
 Mohl bych tedy pozadat o radu, co s tim, abych mohl prispivat. Je to tim,
 ze
 jsem porad unapproved v Translation CVS Commit Group?

 Kazdopadne se tesim na spolupraci

 Jarek Apolenar

 2009/11/8 Josef Hruąka josef.hru...@upcmail.cz

  Ahoj Jarku,
 
  o vikendu jsem na RN delal i ja. Ted jsem je akorat nahral do
  Transifexu. Tak jen opatreneji, kdybys chtel take uploadnout sve zmeny,
  abys neprepsal moje.
 
  Muzes se samozrejme zkusit zeptat v ramci teto konference, muzes zkusit
  konzultovat i portal l10n.cz. Take muzes zkusit treba IRC kanál
  Fedora-cs na Freenode. Prekladam pro Fedoru take asi neco kolem pul
  roku, takze zhruba takhle postupuju ja. Ale mozna jsou tady ostrilenejsi
  vlci nez ja, kteri by mohli poradit (i mne ;).
 
  Pepa Hruąka
 
   Původní zpráva 
  Předmět:Re: Pepa Hruska
  Datum:  Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:42:50 +0100
  Od: Jaroslav Apolenar jarekapole...@gmail.com
  Přeposláno - Komu:  Fedora Translation Project List
  fedora-trans-l...@redhat.com
  Komu:   fedora-trans-l...@redhat.com
 
 
 
  Ahoj,
 
  do ceske konference jsem se uz zaregistroval, na ty Release Notes o
  vikendu mrknu, jeste si dovolim zacatecnickou otazku, kam smerovat me
  pripadne dotazy, kdyby byl nedejboze nejaky technicky problem pri
  prekladu, abych zbytecne nezdrzoval.
 
  Jarek Apolenar
 
 
 
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Re: A question about allow_unconfined_mmap_low in f11 amd selinux

2009-11-10 Thread Mike Cloaked
Daniel J Walsh dwalsh at redhat.com writes:

  definitely still getting the error with any Wine application with
  mmap_low_allowed set to 0.
  
  selinux-policy-3.6.32-41.fc12.noarch
  
 The name has changed between RHEL5 - allow_unconfined_mmap_low 
 and F12 - mmap_low_allowed 
 
 The meaning has also changed 
 
 in RHEL5
 
 unconfined domains are allowed to mmap_low if the boolean is set.  vbetool
 and wine are allowed whether or
 not the boolean is set.
 
 In F12
 No domains are allowed to mmap_low unless the boolean is set.   If it is 
 set wine, vbetool and unconfined
 domains are allowed to mmap_zero.
 
 One of you is running wine in RHEL5 which is allowed to mmap_zero without
 the boolean.  We changed this in F12
 so that wine will break without the boolean set.

Thank you for that clarification Dan.

By the way I entered a private ticket at the Crossover site (hence not 
publicly visible), and have been told that their devs are currently 
already looking at this issue to try to see if the problem can be 
worked around in a new version of Crossover, which will presumably
also be made available to newer versions of wine if a solution can be found.




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Package Review Stats for last 7 days ending 8th Nov

2009-11-10 Thread Rakesh Pandit
Top three FAS account holders who have completed reviewing Package
review components on bugzilla for last 7 days ending 8th Nov were
Nicolas Mailhot, Steve Traylen and Parag AN(पराग).

Nicolas Mailhot : 7

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=532231
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=532816
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=532817
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=532818
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=532819
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530880
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=532368


Steve Traylen : 5

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=516517
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=516522
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=516527
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=516532
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=516534


Parag AN(पराग) : 4

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=516280
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=531988
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=532677
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=533141


Jason Tibbitts : 3

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502991
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522777
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501958


Mamoru Tasaka : 3

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530204
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=531391
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527488


Andrew Colin Kissa : 2

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525432
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526876


Jon Ciesla : 2

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=532635
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526651


Lubomir Rintel : 2

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=532315
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=508521


Xavier Bachelot : 2

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=532699
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524238


Alan Pevec : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=507697


Andrew Overholt : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=532057


Christof Damian : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529073


Christoph Wickert : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=532779


Dennis Gilmore : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=521983


Jan Klepek : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525914


Jon Stanley : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523343


Jussi Lehtola : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=507030


Orcan 'oget' Ogetbil : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529283


Peter Lemenkov : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=533075


Rahul Sundaram : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=512170


Ruben Kerkhof : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=531912


Steve Whitehouse : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=507106


Thomas Spura : 1

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526564



Total reviews modified: 44
Merge Reviews: 1
Review Requests: 43

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Re: odd file requires

2009-11-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Mark McLoughlin wrote:
 Leaving it as a package requires means hard-coding knowledge in qemu
 about which version of gpxe-roms-qemu provides which roms. IMHO, the
 file requires makes more sense.

So what? Many packages have hardcoded Requires = EVR for such things.

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Re: pushing 3.12.0 to rawhide: freeimage

2009-11-10 Thread Rakesh Pandit
2009/9/23 Rakesh Pandit wrote:
 On 09/23/2009 02:50 PM, Nicolas Chauvet wrote:
 2009/9/23 Rakesh Pandit wrote:
 I will be pushing freeimage 3.12.0 to rawhide and following
 dependencies will need a bump to consume it. I will probably be
 bumping them myself unless someone does it before me. Just *rawhide* .
 Thx for the warning !
 Can you provide the current wip version of the src.rpm ?

 Now I cannot rememember the beta freeze period, but I will request to
 wait for the unfreeze unless it is far enought


 I was just planning for rawhide. Still I will wait some time (till
 deadlines are gone) and post you details once I am done.

[..]

Now seems to be right time for f13

fotoxx
PerceptualDiff
posterazor
phoronix-test-suite
ogre

will need a rebuild. In case everyone is okay I will start doing it in
few days ?

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Re: A question about allow_unconfined_mmap_low in f11 amd selinux

2009-11-10 Thread Mike Cloaked
Daniel J Walsh dwalsh at redhat.com writes:


 The name has changed between RHEL5 - allow_unconfined_mmap_low and F12 -
 mmap_low_allowed 
 
 The meaning has also changed 
 
 in RHEL5
 
 unconfined domains are allowed to mmap_low if the boolean is set.  vbetool 
 and wine are allowed whether or
 not the boolean is set.
 
 In F12
 No domains are allowed to mmap_low unless the boolean is set.   If it is 
 set wine, vbetool and unconfined
 domains are allowed to mmap_zero.
 
 One of you is running wine in RHEL5 which is allowed to mmap_zero without
 the boolean.  We changed this in F12
 so that wine will break without the boolean set.

There is an interesting thing I just found - in F11 without the bool set I can
run MS Word 2003 in Crossover (i.e. effectively wine) and open a .doc file
without any AVC popping up.

However from a webmail interface opened in Firefox, and clicking on a .doc 
attachment, trying to open it via an association link to Word 2003 in Crossover
immediately gives an AVC denial for wine-preloader and suggests allowing the 
bool!  However the file does seem to open nevertheless!! 




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Re: odd file requires

2009-11-10 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:01:54 +0100, Kevin wrote:

 Mark McLoughlin wrote:
  Leaving it as a package requires means hard-coding knowledge in qemu
  about which version of gpxe-roms-qemu provides which roms. IMHO, the
  file requires makes more sense.
 
 So what? Many packages have hardcoded Requires = EVR for such things.

And if you don't like to require package names, you could add your
own Provides to the packages for capabilities such as ROM images. With
the added benefit that you could apply versions to those capabilities,
which is not possible with file dependencies.

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rawhide report: 20091110 changes

2009-11-10 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Tue Nov 10 08:15:09 UTC 2009













Updated Packages:

gnome-do-0.8.2-4.fc12
-
* Tue Nov 10 2009 Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com - 0.8.2-4
- Remove Docky due to patent issues


Summary:
Added Packages: 0
Removed Packages: 0
Modified Packages: 1

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Re: Fedora 12 has gone gold

2009-11-10 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 
 Hopefully Nouveau gets 3D support within a couple of releases as well.
 Getting rid of the biggest pain of proprietary drivers would be one
 giant step forward for Linux on the desktop.

It would be wonderful.
Sometimes you have no choice for the hardware; if you get the wrong
laptop, bad luck.

For my job, I got an ATI thinkpad when ATI was not open.
Now that ATI is open, bad luck gave me an NVidia.
I'm sure Noveau will make great progress and in the mean time
I will be assigned an Intel one (the new bad ones). :-)

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Problems reporting crashes with ABRT

2009-11-10 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
ABRT has detected a couple of crashes recently, but has been unable to
create bugs in Bugzilla.  It makes an attempt, but fails with the
message:

   XML-RPC Fault: libcurl failed to execute the HTTP POST transaction.

I've verified that I've configured ABRT with the correct bugzilla
username and password.  Any hints on what my problem could be?

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Re: Problems reporting crashes with ABRT

2009-11-10 Thread Nikola Pajkovsky

Dne 10.11.2009 16:24, Jeffrey Ollie napsal(a):

ABRT has detected a couple of crashes recently, but has been unable to
create bugs in Bugzilla.  It makes an attempt, but fails with the
message:

XML-RPC Fault: libcurl failed to execute the HTTP POST transaction.

I've verified that I've configured ABRT with the correct bugzilla
username and password.  Any hints on what my problem could be?



It helps you restart deamon for now. We have fix in git and it will be 
in new release.


See:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=531978#c5

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Re: Problems reporting crashes with ABRT

2009-11-10 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Nikola Pajkovsky npajk...@redhat.com wrote:
 Dne 10.11.2009 16:24, Jeffrey Ollie napsal(a):

 ABRT has detected a couple of crashes recently, but has been unable to
 create bugs in Bugzilla.  It makes an attempt, but fails with the
 message:

    XML-RPC Fault: libcurl failed to execute the HTTP POST transaction.

 I've verified that I've configured ABRT with the correct bugzilla
 username and password.  Any hints on what my problem could be?

 It helps you restart deamon for now. We have fix in git and it will be in
 new release.

 See:
    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=531978#c5

Yup, that fixed it, thanks!

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Re: F13 Naming: Leonidas - Constantine - New Name?

2009-11-10 Thread Björn Persson
inode0 wrote:
 With Fedora 12 just a few days from release it is time to begin the
 naming process for the next Fedora release.

After F12 comes Print Screen of course. ;-)

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Re: F13 Naming: Leonidas - Constantine - New Name?

2009-11-10 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 16:45 +0100, Björn Persson wrote:
 inode0 wrote:
  With Fedora 12 just a few days from release it is time to begin the
  naming process for the next Fedora release.
 
 After F12 comes Print Screen of course. ;-)

Depending on the keyboards I look at, I have Insert, Eject and
Mute after F12 ;)

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Re: F13 Naming: Leonidas - Constantine - New Name?

2009-11-10 Thread Fulko Hew
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Bastien Nocera bnoc...@redhat.com wrote:

 On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 16:45 +0100, Björn Persson wrote:
  inode0 wrote:
   With Fedora 12 just a few days from release it is time to begin the
   naming process for the next Fedora release.
 
  After F12 comes Print Screen of course. ;-)

 Depending on the keyboards I look at, I have Insert, Eject and
 Mute after F12 ;)


Ahhh, having choices is always good!

After F12 _I_ have: Delete, End and Page Down.  :-)

(Sorry for adding to the noise, but its a 'slow news day'.)
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Nominations now open for December Fedora Elections

2009-11-10 Thread inode0
It is time to begin the process of nominating candidates for the open
seats in the following bodies:

* Fedora Project Board
* Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee (FAmSCo)
* Fedora Engineering Steering Committee (FESCo)

General Election Schedule:

* November 10-16: Nominations are open.
* November 17-23: Candidate questionnaires.
* November 27 - December 3: IRC Town Hall-style discussions with
candidates for the various elected positions will be arranged.
* December 8-15: The elections will take place.

Nominations

You may self-nominate. If you wish to nominate someone else, please
consult with that person ahead of time. Wiki nomination pages [1]
carry additional details about the nominee which the nominee is
expected to write.  Simply update the respective wiki page with your
nomination information.

Please thoughtfully consider how you can best contribute to Fedora by
serving on one of these important committees or by encouraging someone
you know who you think can make a difference to serve.

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections

Thanks,
John

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Re: conflict between seedit - selinux-policy and qstat - torque-client

2009-11-10 Thread Bill Nottingham
Daniel J Walsh (dwa...@redhat.com) said: 
 On 11/04/2009 01:38 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
  Because seedit getting installed causes selinux-policy-targeted and 
  friends to get screwed up.
  
  That sounds like a reason to not ship seedit. Am I missing something?
  
  Bill
  
 I would not ship it.

Is there a schedule for when seedit will be able to function in a
non-destructive mode?

Bill

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Re: F13 Naming: Leonidas - Constantine - New Name?

2009-11-10 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 16:45 +0100, Björn Persson wrote:
 
 After F12 comes Print Screen of course. ;-) 

My keyboard has F13 next...

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Re: F13 Naming: Leonidas - Constantine - New Name?

2009-11-10 Thread Casey Dahlin
On 11/10/2009 10:58 AM, Fulko Hew wrote:
 
 
 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Bastien Nocera bnoc...@redhat.com
 mailto:bnoc...@redhat.com wrote:
 
 On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 16:45 +0100, Björn Persson wrote:
  inode0 wrote:
   With Fedora 12 just a few days from release it is time to begin the
   naming process for the next Fedora release.
 
  After F12 comes Print Screen of course. ;-)
 
 Depending on the keyboards I look at, I have Insert, Eject and
 Mute after F12 ;)
 
 
 Ahhh, having choices is always good!
 
 After F12 _I_ have: Delete, End and Page Down.  :-)
 
 (Sorry for adding to the noise, but its a 'slow news day'.)
 

I have a big badge that says Dell...???!!!

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Re: F13 Naming: Leonidas - Constantine - New Name?

2009-11-10 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com said:
 On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 16:45 +0100, Björn Persson wrote:
  After F12 comes Print Screen of course. ;-) 
 
 My keyboard has F13 next...

The One True Keyboard(tm) (IBM Model M) has Print Screen/SysRq there.

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Re: Fedora 12 has gone gold

2009-11-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 09:55 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

 Hopefully Nouveau gets 3D support within a couple of releases as well.

Ben says to send beer. :)

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Re: Fedora 12 has gone gold

2009-11-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/10/2009 10:24 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 09:55 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 
 Hopefully Nouveau gets 3D support within a couple of releases as well.
 
 Ben says to send beer. :)

That would one hot beer if it travels all that way.

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Re: Fedora 12 has gone gold

2009-11-10 Thread John Poelstra

On 11/09/2009 05:29 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:

We have just completed our Go / No Go meeting for Fedora 12 and have
reached the decision to Go.  Fedora 12's package set is golden and we're
ready to stage things for shipping.  Great work all around, I'm very


My impressions from this meeting were slightly different :-)

We noted that there are no known reasons that we are not go and that 
we will continue testing until Wednesday when QA expects to have 
completed the testing matrix.  Maybe we are separated by semantics, but 
gone gold or completely done was not an impression I left the 
meeting with.


http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-11-10/fedora-meeting.2009-11-10-01.01.log.html

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KDE-SIG weekly report (46/2009)

2009-11-10 Thread Sebastian Vahl
This is a report of the weekly KDE-SIG-Meeting with a summary of the 
topics that were discussed. If you want to add a comment please reply
 to this email or add it to the related meeting page.

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= Weekly KDE Summary =

Week: 46/2009

Time: 2009-11-10 14:00 UTC

Meeting page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2009-11-10

Meeting minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-
meeting/2009-11-10/fedora-meeting.2009-11-10-14.02.html

Meeting log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-
meeting/2009-11-10/fedora-meeting.2009-11-10-14.02.log.html

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= Participants =

* BenBoeckel
* JaroslavReznik
* KevinKofler
* LukasTinkl
* RexDieter
* SebastianVahl
* StevenParrish
* ThanNgo
* Hello Chissini de Castro 

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= Agenda =

* Celebration of F12 going gold
* Status of KDE 4.3.3
* Features for F13 

= Summary =

o Topic 1
- notes

o Celebration of Fedora 12 going GOLD:
* The KDE-SIG celebrated the gold status of Fedora 12.
* With Hello Chissini de Castro a new KDE-SIG member was introduced.
* He has been working for Connectiva/Mandriva for over 10 years and is also a 
KDE developer for a long time. 

o Status of KDE 4.3.3:
* KDE 4.3.3 is imported into CVS for F10 and F11, work on F12 is ongoing.
* (Existing) Extragear for KDE 4.3.3 packages will follow when buildroot is 
ready.
* KDE 4.3.3 will be the last update for F10 which will EOL soon. 

o Features for F13:
* KDE related features and their owners for Fedora 13:
- phonon/pulseaudio integration (KevinKofler)
- knetworkmanager (RexDieter)
- polkit-1 in KDE (JaroslavReznik)
- Firefox/OpenOffice.org integration in KDE (LukasTinkl)
- Prepare a wiki page outlining KDE features in F13 to work on (LukasTinkl) 
[1]

o package splitting:
* SebastianVahl proposed a splitting of KDE packages as a possible Feature for 
F13.
* Splits could be done on a per-app basis or a split out of the popular 
packages.
* First pros/cons were discussed in the meeting:
- more control over the installed packages (+)
- better support for a minimal runtime for small targets (like netbooks) (+)
- huge increase of metadata to download (--)
- more work for packagers (-)
- more complexity for users (-) 
* SebastianVahl will prepare a wiki page with pros/cons and a documentation of 
the splitting already done as a basis for further discussions. 

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= Next Meeting =

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2009-11-17

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Re: Fedora 12 has gone gold

2009-11-10 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 09:02 -0800, John Poelstra wrote:
 
 My impressions from this meeting were slightly different :-)
 
 We noted that there are no known reasons that we are not go and that 
 we will continue testing until Wednesday when QA expects to have 
 completed the testing matrix.  Maybe we are separated by semantics, but 
 gone gold or completely done was not an impression I left the 
 meeting with.
 
 http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-11-10/fedora-meeting.2009-11-10-01.01.log.html
  

Our impressions are indeed different.  The go / no go meeting was the
point of no return.  Once we go, there is no going back.  We've made a
commitment to go with what we have, and let the various teams that need
time to prepare for the release to start their work, as much of that
work cannot be pulled back once done.

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2009-11-09 Fedora 12 Go/No Go Meeting Minutes

2009-11-10 Thread John Poelstra

http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-11-10/fedora-meeting.2009-11-10-01.01.html
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-11-10/fedora-meeting.2009-11-10-01.01.txt 


http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-11-10/fedora-meeting.2009-11-10-01.01.log.html


Meeting summary
---
* LINK:
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_12_RC4_Install
  (jlaska, 01:08:59)
* QA expecting test completion of matrix Wednesday
  (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_12_RC4_Install)
  (jlaska, 01:23:23)


People Present (lines said)
---
* adamw_ (39)
* jlaska (38)
* wwoods (18)
* poelcat (15)
* Oxf13 (11)
* notting (8)
* jwb (6)
* mmcgrath (3)
* zodbot (3)
* bao_ (3)
* Sparks (2)
* nirik (1)


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Re: Fedora 12 has gone gold

2009-11-10 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 09:55 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

 Hopefully Nouveau gets 3D support within a couple of releases as well.

 Ben says to send beer. :)

Happily, ask him what slab he wants and where he wants it delivered :-P

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Re: Are conflicts in debuginfo packages OK?

2009-11-10 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
=?iso-8859-15?q?Bj=F6rn_Persson?= bj...@xn--rombobjrn-67a.se writes:

 debuginfo packages cannot be multilib, that is why we don't offer them
 multilib.

 I'm guessing that we don't offer them multilib means that 32-bit
 debuginfo packages aren't meant to be installed on 64-bit systems,
 so I'll take this to mean that I shouldn't bother doing anything to
 avoid conflicts.

Well, hold on, debuginfo for multilib'd libraries like glibc should be
absolutely installable in parallel.


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Re: F13 Naming: Leonidas - Constantine - New Name?

2009-11-10 Thread Mat Booth
2009/11/10 Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com:
 On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 16:45 +0100, Björn Persson wrote:

 After F12 comes Print Screen of course. ;-)

 My keyboard has F13 next...


You *are* F13...


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Re: Are conflicts in debuginfo packages OK?

2009-11-10 Thread Bill Nottingham
Frank Ch. Eigler (f...@redhat.com) said: 
  I'm guessing that we don't offer them multilib means that 32-bit
  debuginfo packages aren't meant to be installed on 64-bit systems,
  so I'll take this to mean that I shouldn't bother doing anything to
  avoid conflicts.
 
 Well, hold on, debuginfo for multilib'd libraries like glibc should be
 absolutely installable in parallel.

Not unless someone changes the layout of debuginfo entirely, as they
use common paths:

/usr/src/debug/source tree name
/usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/...

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Re: Are conflicts in debuginfo packages OK?

2009-11-10 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 02:25:16PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
 Frank Ch. Eigler (f...@redhat.com) said: 
   I'm guessing that we don't offer them multilib means that 32-bit
   debuginfo packages aren't meant to be installed on 64-bit systems,
   so I'll take this to mean that I shouldn't bother doing anything to
   avoid conflicts.
  
  Well, hold on, debuginfo for multilib'd libraries like glibc should be
  absolutely installable in parallel.
 
 Not unless someone changes the layout of debuginfo entirely, as they
 use common paths:
 
 /usr/src/debug/source tree name
 /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/...

Currently you can install say on x86_64 either a i686, or x86_64
debuginfo package, but not both.

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Booting Fedora live USB on MacBookPro

2009-11-10 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Hello,

I'm creating an EFI bootable USB image on my rawhide system with this
command-line:

 ./livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --format  --efi --overlay-size-mb 400 \
--delete-home --extra-kernel-args selinux=0 ./soas04.iso /dev/sdb1

The resulting USB stick boots fine on a black MacBook, but not on
a silver MacBook Pro.

The bootable stick does not even show up in the list of boot devices.


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Re: Booting Fedora live USB on MacBookPro

2009-11-10 Thread Peter Jones
On 11/10/2009 02:40 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I'm creating an EFI bootable USB image on my rawhide system with this
 command-line:
 
  ./livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --format  --efi --overlay-size-mb 400 \
   --delete-home --extra-kernel-args selinux=0 ./soas04.iso /dev/sdb1
 
 The resulting USB stick boots fine on a black MacBook, but not on
 a silver MacBook Pro.

 The bootable stick does not even show up in the list of boot devices.


Which generation of MBP and MBP, and are you using the i386 tree or
the x86_64 tree? It sounds like the MacBook is a Santa Rosa (MacBook3,1)
or later and the MacBook Pro is an earlier generation, and you're using
x86_64.  Or vice-versa regarding the ages, and you're using the i386 tree.

This won't work, as pre-Santa Rosa mac will only boot 32-bit EFI images,
and post-Santa Rosa macs will only boot 64-bit EFI images.

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Re: Booting Fedora live USB on MacBookPro

2009-11-10 Thread John Reiser

pre-Santa Rosa mac will only boot 32-bit EFI images,
and post-Santa Rosa macs will only boot 64-bit EFI images.


Also, it is only recently that a Mac might boot from USB2.0 at all;
Firewire (IEEE 1394) was required for most of Apple history.

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Re: Booting Fedora live USB on MacBookPro

2009-11-10 Thread Ralf Ertzinger
Hi.

On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:49:17 -0800, John Reiser wrote

 Also, it is only recently that a Mac might boot from USB2.0 at all;
 Firewire (IEEE 1394) was required for most of Apple history.

My old iBook G3 booted from USB. That was USB1.1, though, which may
or may not be significant.

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Re: Booting Fedora live USB on MacBookPro

2009-11-10 Thread Peter Jones
On 11/10/2009 03:49 PM, John Reiser wrote:
 pre-Santa Rosa mac will only boot 32-bit EFI images,
 and post-Santa Rosa macs will only boot 64-bit EFI images.
 
 Also, it is only recently that a Mac might boot from USB2.0 at all;
 Firewire (IEEE 1394) was required for most of Apple history.

All EFI macs can do this.

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Re: Are conflicts in debuginfo packages OK?

2009-11-10 Thread Björn Persson
Bill Nottingham wrote:
 Frank Ch. Eigler (f...@redhat.com) said:
   I'm guessing that we don't offer them multilib means that 32-bit
   debuginfo packages aren't meant to be installed on 64-bit systems,
   so I'll take this to mean that I shouldn't bother doing anything to
   avoid conflicts.
 
  Well, hold on, debuginfo for multilib'd libraries like glibc should be
  absolutely installable in parallel.
 
 Not unless someone changes the layout of debuginfo entirely, as they
 use common paths:
 
 /usr/src/debug/source tree name

I think can handle those. For true source code files there is no problem, 
because they will be identical in both packages. Generated files can be placed 
in separate subdirectories, for example
/usr/src/debug/source tree name/%{_arch}.
This may of course require more or less complicated patches to makefiles or 
other build scripts. I'm trying to find out wheter I should do this.

 /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/...

Those are the ones I can't do anything about on my own, but perhaps the same 
exception could be applied there as in /usr/bin?

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Re: Booting Fedora live USB on MacBookPro

2009-11-10 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote:
 Hello,

 I'm creating an EFI bootable USB image on my rawhide system with this
 command-line:

  ./livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --format  --efi --overlay-size-mb 400 \
        --delete-home --extra-kernel-args selinux=0 ./soas04.iso /dev/sdb1

 The resulting USB stick boots fine on a black MacBook, but not on
 a silver MacBook Pro.

 The bootable stick does not even show up in the list of boot devices.

I think there's some bugs with booting EFI devices in the various live
device (cd/usb) creation tools. The latest rawhide (released in the
last day or two) has an updated liveusb-creator which fixes alot of
the EFI issues, and a new livecd-tools I think is due soon.

Cheers,
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Re: [SoaS] Booting Fedora live USB on MacBookPro

2009-11-10 Thread Peter Jones
On 11/10/2009 05:37 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 My MacBook is a 4,1. Will it work on my machine?

A 64-bit EFI image should work on a MacBook4,1 .  A 32-bit EFI image
won't.

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Re: Booting Fedora live USB on MacBookPro

2009-11-10 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 22:25 +, Peter Robinson wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I'm creating an EFI bootable USB image on my rawhide system with this
  command-line:
 
   ./livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --format  --efi --overlay-size-mb 400 \
 --delete-home --extra-kernel-args selinux=0 ./soas04.iso /dev/sdb1

You need to pass the device, not the partition.

  The resulting USB stick boots fine on a black MacBook, but not on
  a silver MacBook Pro.
 
  The bootable stick does not even show up in the list of boot devices.
 
 I think there's some bugs with booting EFI devices in the various live
 device (cd/usb) creation tools. The latest rawhide (released in the
 last day or two) has an updated liveusb-creator which fixes alot of
 the EFI issues, and a new livecd-tools I think is due soon.

If you don't even see the USB hard disk when booting up, then it
probably isn't formatted with GPT. Use --format on /dev/sdb.

If it shows up but ends up booting another OS, then your
EFI/boot/boot*.conf isn't updated, and you might have hit:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=533824

Let me know if the patch works.

And as Peter's mentioned, if your device supports x86_64, you need an
x86_64 image, and the same for 32-bit.

Note that I'm not sure how those are generated, but you should be able
to boot a 32-bit distro as long as you have a bootx64.conf and
bootx64.efi in /EFI/boot on the USB key.

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Re: F13 Naming: Leonidas - Constantine - New Name?

2009-11-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 08:02:15 -0800,
  Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 16:45 +0100, Björn Persson wrote:
  
  After F12 comes Print Screen of course. ;-) 
 
 My keyboard has F13 next...

F13 has to be named after Katz.

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Re: F13 Naming: Leonidas - Constantine - New Name?

2009-11-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 18:40:24 +,
  Mat Booth fed...@matbooth.co.uk wrote:
 2009/11/10 Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com:
  On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 16:45 +0100, Björn Persson wrote:
 
  After F12 comes Print Screen of course. ;-)
 
  My keyboard has F13 next...
 
 
 You *are* F13...

Too many J.K.s and I appear to have mixed them up.

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Re: Are conflicts in debuginfo packages OK?

2009-11-10 Thread Ben Boeckel
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Björn Persson wrote:
 I think can handle those. For true source code files there is no problem, 
 because they will be identical in both packages. Generated files can be 
placed 
 in separate subdirectories, for example
 /usr/src/debug/source tree name/%{_arch}.
 This may of course require more or less complicated patches to makefiles or 
 other build scripts. I'm trying to find out wheter I should do this.

For KDE4 builds (which should also work for any CMake system as well) is (not 
copy-paste ready):

mkdir %{_target_platform}
pushd %{_target_platform}
cmake ..
popd
make -C %{_target_platform}

This ensures all of the generated files are in a separate directory. I'm not 
sure how this would work with autotools since I don't use them.

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Re: Are conflicts in debuginfo packages OK?

2009-11-10 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
Jakub Jelinek ja...@redhat.com writes:

 [...]
  Well, hold on, debuginfo for multilib'd libraries like glibc should be
  absolutely installable in parallel.
 
 Not unless someone changes the layout of debuginfo entirely, as they
 use common paths:
 
 /usr/src/debug/source tree name

Right, that's a complication.  (It could be handled by suffixing the
arch in the source-tree-name part.)

 /usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/...

Considering that the same files are also linked into multilib-safe
collision-free /usr/lib/debug/.build-id files, where debuggers already
know to look for them, the .../usr/bin* ones could be deprecated.  Or
the conflicting /bin files could be moved to a separate non-library
subpackage.


I hope it is obvious that it would be appropriate to be able to debug
anything installed from the normal repositories.  That the status quo
is not quite up to the job (in the case of some multilib libraries) is
a bug.


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Re: Booting Fedora live USB on MacBookPro

2009-11-10 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Tue, 10-11-2009 a las 15:31 -0500, Caroline Meeks escribió:
 Are you sure you macbook pro is capable of booting linux? I was
 experimenting at a Apple Store and found that the White Macbooks there
 were not capable of booting Linux from a CD, let alone Sugar from a
 Stick. However the Silver Macbook pros booted both fine.  White
 macbooks at the GPA have the same issue.  Older white macbooks at the
 Lilla Fredrick boot fine. So things can be very odd with Macs.

Next Saturday I'll bring a few boot CDs of Fedora and Ubuntu to see if I
can manage to make them boot on those silver Mac Book Pros.


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Fedora Core 12 Public AMI for EC2

2009-11-10 Thread August Zajonc

Hey there,

Curious if anyone has put together FC11 (or 12) AMI for Amazons EC2. 
Anyone interested in working on this type of thing with me?


Is there a key technical reason this may be hard / impossible?
(Amazon kernel version for example jumps out as a possability).

Many cheers,

- August

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Re: [SoaS] Booting Fedora live USB on MacBookPro

2009-11-10 Thread Stewart Adam

On 2009/11/10 5:41 PM, Peter Jones wrote:

On 11/10/2009 05:37 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote:


Hi,

My MacBook is a 4,1. Will it work on my machine?


A 64-bit EFI image should work on a MacBook4,1 .  A 32-bit EFI image
won't.



If the silver MBP is also a 4,1 model, there may be complications... There 
are some video initialization problems [1] when booting EFI kernels.


Stewart

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=496134

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Re: intent to retire: kudzu

2009-11-10 Thread Stewart Adam

On 2009/11/09 3:28 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

On 11/10/2009 01:58 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote:

However, it is still being required by two programs:
- hwbrowser
- fwfstab


I filed a bug report against these programs a while back to move away
from Kudzu. Neither of these programs themselves seem to be actively
maintained anymore.

Rahul


I originally wrote it to aid users edit their fstab to get partitions 
automounted at boot, but for the past few Fedora releases that can be done 
right from Gnome/KDE so as a result I haven't given fwfstab much attention.


I will update it eventually to DeviceKit, but I can't invest the time at the 
moment. Would it be possible to have it temporarily removed from the repos?


Thanks,
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[Bug 492510] Regression: wqy-bitmap-fonts preferred font over truetype fonts

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[Bug 530880] Review Request: ns-tiza-fonts - A Slab-Serif Font

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--- Comment #16 from TK009 john.brown...@gmail.com  2009-11-10 08:00:38 EDT 
---
New Package CVS Request
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Package Name: ns-tisa-chalk-fonts
Short Description: Chalky slab-serif fonts
Owners: TK009
Branches: F-10 F-11 F-12
InitialCC: fonts-sig

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[Bug 534118] New: Coredump on exit from X Windows in FontFileFreeDir

2009-11-10 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: Coredump on exit from X Windows in FontFileFreeDir

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=534118

   Summary: Coredump on exit from X Windows in FontFileFreeDir
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
  Platform: All
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
  Severity: medium
  Priority: low
 Component: libXfont
AssignedTo: sandm...@redhat.com
ReportedBy: zkabe...@redhat.com
 QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: sandm...@redhat.com, fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com
Classification: Fedora
Target Release: ---


Description of problem:

While doing exit of Xorg - I'm getting this coredump:

#0  malloc_consolidate (av=value optimized out) at malloc.c:5136
#1  0x7f2f45461fc8 in _int_free (av=0x7f2f4575ee80, p=0x32c2490,
have_lock=0) at malloc.c:5015
#2  0x7f2f4770584c in FontFileFreeDir (dir=0x3291bb0) at fontdir.c:170
#3  0x7f2f47707454 in FontFileFreeFPE (fpe=0x3291b40) at fontfile.c:144
#4  0x7f2f477092c4 in CatalogueUnrefFPEs (fpe=value optimized out) at
catalogue.c:116
#5  0x7f2f477099b8 in CatalogueFreeFPE (fpe=0x3280e60) at catalogue.c:272
#6  0x0042e4b6 in FreeFPE (fpe=0x3280e60) at dixfonts.c:225
#7  0x0042e507 in FreeFontPath (list=0x3280e30, n=4, force=1) at
dixfonts.c:1661
#8  0x0042e5c7 in FreeFonts () at dixfonts.c:2028
#9  0x00421dc4 in main (argc=value optimized out, argv=value
optimized out, envp=value optimized out) at main.c:32

I think it might be related to the latest Xfont upgrade.

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
libXfont-1.4.1-1.fc12.x86_64
xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.7.1-7.fc12.x86_64

How reproducible:


Steps to Reproduce:
1. startx
2. do some work
3. kill X

Actual results:


Expected results:


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[Bug 476951] missing dependencies of emacs: xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-100dpi

2009-11-10 Thread bugzilla
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 Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED
 Resolution||WONTFIX




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rpms/xorg-x11-font-utils/devel .cvsignore, 1.14, 1.15 sources, 1.14, 1.15 xorg-x11-font-utils.spec, 1.34, 1.35

2009-11-10 Thread Adam Jackson
Author: ajax

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/xorg-x11-font-utils/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv9202

Modified Files:
.cvsignore sources xorg-x11-font-utils.spec 
Log Message:
* Tue Nov 10 2009 Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com 7.2-11
- font-util 1.1.0



Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/xorg-x11-font-utils/devel/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.14
retrieving revision 1.15
diff -u -p -r1.14 -r1.15
--- .cvsignore  13 Oct 2009 19:59:49 -  1.14
+++ .cvsignore  10 Nov 2009 19:08:06 -  1.15
@@ -5,3 +5,4 @@ mkfontscale-1.0.1.tar.bz2
 bdftopcf-1.0.1.tar.bz2
 mkfontscale-1.0.7.tar.bz2
 mkfontdir-1.0.5.tar.bz2
+font-util-1.1.0.tar.bz2


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/xorg-x11-font-utils/devel/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.14
retrieving revision 1.15
diff -u -p -r1.14 -r1.15
--- sources 13 Oct 2009 19:59:49 -  1.14
+++ sources 10 Nov 2009 19:08:06 -  1.15
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
-b81535f78fe05732931f02841e5ca37b  font-util-1.0.1.tar.bz2
 b0ebd86029571239b9d7b0c61191b591  fonttosfnt-1.0.3.tar.bz2
 9685fab33d39954ab8a0d22e0969d5a4  bdftopcf-1.0.1.tar.bz2
 96ca346f185c0ab48e42bf5bb0375da5  mkfontscale-1.0.7.tar.bz2
 9365ac66d19186eaf030482d312fca06  mkfontdir-1.0.5.tar.bz2
+9538043de60d685fc4253b0dc2924d58  font-util-1.1.0.tar.bz2


Index: xorg-x11-font-utils.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/xorg-x11-font-utils/devel/xorg-x11-font-utils.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.34
retrieving revision 1.35
diff -u -p -r1.34 -r1.35
--- xorg-x11-font-utils.spec13 Oct 2009 19:59:49 -  1.34
+++ xorg-x11-font-utils.spec10 Nov 2009 19:08:06 -  1.35
@@ -5,7 +5,7 @@ Name: xorg-x11-%{pkgname}
 # IMPORTANT: If package ever gets renamed to something else, remove the Epoch 
line!
 Epoch: 1
 Version: 7.2
-Release: 10%{?dist}
+Release: 11%{?dist}
 License: MIT
 Group: User Interface/X
 URL: http://www.x.org
@@ -15,7 +15,7 @@ Source0: ftp://ftp.x.org/pub/individual/
 Source1: ftp://ftp.x.org/pub/individual/app/fonttosfnt-1.0.3.tar.bz2
 Source2: ftp://ftp.x.org/pub/individual/app/mkfontdir-1.0.5.tar.bz2
 Source3: ftp://ftp.x.org/pub/individual/app/mkfontscale-1.0.7.tar.bz2
-Source4: ftp://ftp.x.org/pub/individual/font/font-util-1.0.1.tar.bz2
+Source4: ftp://ftp.x.org/pub/individual/font/font-util-1.1.0.tar.bz2
 
 Patch0: font-util-1.0.1-mapdir-use-datadir-fix.patch
 Patch1: font-util-1.0.1-autoconf-add-with-fontdir-option.patch
@@ -47,8 +47,8 @@ populated fonts.
 
 %prep
 %setup -q -c %{name}-%{version} -a1 -a2 -a3 -a4
-%patch0 -p0 -b .font-util-mapdir-use-datadir-fix
-%patch1 -p0 -b .autoconf-add-with-fontdir-option
+#patch0 -p0 -b .font-util-mapdir-use-datadir-fix
+#patch1 -p0 -b .autoconf-add-with-fontdir-option
 
 %build
 # Build all apps
@@ -61,7 +61,8 @@ populated fonts.
 autoconf
 ;;
   esac
-  %configure
+  # this --with-mapdir should be redundant?
+  %configure --with-mapdir=%{_datadir}/X11/fonts/util
   make
   popd
done
@@ -113,6 +114,9 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 
 
 %changelog
+* Tue Nov 10 2009 Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com 7.2-11
+- font-util 1.1.0
+
 * Tue Oct 13 2009 Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com 7.2-10
 - mkfontscale 1.0.7
 - mkfontdir 1.0.5

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[Bug 536718] Review Request: tlomt-sniglet-fonts - A rounded, sans-serif font useful for headlines

2009-11-10 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 530880] Review Request: ns-tiza-fonts - A Slab-Serif Font

2009-11-10 Thread bugzilla
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   Flag|fedora-cvs? |fedora-cvs+




--- Comment #17 from Kevin Fenzi ke...@tummy.com  2009-11-10 22:40:35 EDT ---
cvs done.

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[Bug 532818] Review Request: gdouros-musica-fonts - A font for musical symbols

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--- Comment #3 from Kevin Fenzi ke...@tummy.com  2009-11-10 22:46:25 EDT ---
cvs done.

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[Bug 532817] Review Request: gdouros-analecta-fonts - An eccleastic scripts font

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--- Comment #4 from Kevin Fenzi ke...@tummy.com  2009-11-10 22:45:37 EDT ---
cvs done.

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[Bug 532816] Review Request: gdouros-alexander-fonts - A Greek typeface inspired by Alexander Wilson

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--- Comment #4 from Kevin Fenzi ke...@tummy.com  2009-11-10 22:44:46 EDT ---
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[Bug 532819] Review Request: gdouros-symbola-fonts - A symbol font

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--- Comment #3 from Kevin Fenzi ke...@tummy.com  2009-11-10 22:47:10 EDT ---
cvs done.

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[Bug 526204] Review Request: ucs-fixed-fonts selected set of bitmap fonts

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--- Comment #12 from Kevin Fenzi ke...@tummy.com  2009-11-10 22:55:12 EDT ---
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rpms/cjkuni-fonts/F-12 cjkuni-fonts-uming-use-latin.patch, NONE, 1.1 cjkuni-fonts.spec, 1.13, 1.14

2009-11-10 Thread Huang Peng
Author: phuang

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/cjkuni-fonts/F-12
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv11232

Modified Files:
cjkuni-fonts.spec 
Added Files:
cjkuni-fonts-uming-use-latin.patch 
Log Message:
Use Latin font for Chinese string


cjkuni-fonts-uming-use-latin.patch:
 64-ttf-arphic-uming.conf |   12 +---
 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

--- NEW FILE cjkuni-fonts-uming-use-latin.patch ---
--- 64-ttf-arphic-uming.conf.origin 2009-10-20 15:34:29.062453906 +0800
+++ 64-ttf-arphic-uming.conf2009-10-20 16:02:21.272888664 +0800
@@ -8,7 +8,9 @@
test name=family
stringserif/string
/test
-   edit name=family mode=prepend binding=same
+   edit name=family mode=prepend binding=strong
+   stringBitstream Vera Serif/string
+   stringDejaVu Serif/string
stringAR PL UMing HK/string
stringAR PL UMing CN/string
/edit
@@ -20,7 +22,9 @@
test name=family
stringsans-serif/string
/test
-   edit name=family mode=prepend binding=same
+   edit name=family mode=prepend binding=strong
+   stringBitstream Vera Sans/string
+   stringDejaVu Sans/string
stringAR PL UMing HK/string
stringAR PL UMing CN/string
/edit
@@ -32,7 +36,9 @@
test name=family
stringmonospace/string
/test
-   edit name=family mode=prepend binding=same
+   edit name=family mode=prepend binding=strong
+   stringBitstream Vera Sans Mono/string
+   stringDejaVu Sans Mono/string
stringAR PL UMing HK/string
stringAR PL UMing CN/string
/edit


Index: cjkuni-fonts.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/cjkuni-fonts/F-12/cjkuni-fonts.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.13
retrieving revision 1.14
diff -u -p -r1.13 -r1.14
--- cjkuni-fonts.spec   21 Sep 2009 04:37:07 -  1.13
+++ cjkuni-fonts.spec   11 Nov 2009 04:04:33 -  1.14
@@ -22,7 +22,7 @@ the CJK Unifonts project.
 
 Name:%{fontname}-fonts
 Version: 0.2.20080216.1
-Release: 27%{?dist}
+Release: 28%{?dist}
 Summary: Chinese Unicode TrueType fonts in Ming and Kai face.
 License: Arphic
 Group:   User Interface/X
@@ -39,6 +39,7 @@ Source8:CIDFnmap.zh_CN
 Patch1: cjkunifonts-0.2.20080216.1-2.patch
 Patch2: cjkuni-fonts-0.2.20080216.1-18.patch
 Patch3: cjkuni-fonts-0.2.20080216.1-19.patch
+Patch4: cjkuni-fonts-uming-use-latin.patch
 
 BuildRoot:%(mktemp -ud 
%{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-XX)
 BuildArch:noarch
@@ -163,6 +164,7 @@ CJK Unifonts compatibility files.
 %patch1 -p1 -b .1-rhbz47
 %patch2 -p1 -b .2-rhbz475743
 %patch3 -p1 -b .3-rhbz459680
+%patch4 -p0 -b .4-use-latin
 %setup -q -c -T -a2 -n %{ukaibuilddir}
 
 %build
@@ -240,6 +242,9 @@ cd -
 %__rm -fr %{buildroot}
 
 %changelog
+* Wed Nov 11 2009 Peng Huangshawn.p.hu...@gmail.com - 0.2.20080216.1-28
+- Use latin font for to display common ascii in Chines string
+
 * Mon Sep 21 2009 Caius 'kaio' Chance k at kaio.me - 0.2.20080216.1-27.fc12
 - Merged from F-11 tree.
 - Obsoleted cjkuni-fonts-common.

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[Bug 526204] Review Request: ucs-fixed-fonts selected set of bitmap fonts

2009-11-10 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #13 from Pravin Satpute psatp...@redhat.com  2009-11-10 23:04:53 
EDT ---
Thanks Kevin for CVS work
i am waiting for bitmap-fonts merge-review bug once that will also over
i will build both these package simultaneously.

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[Bug 536724] New: problem with character 0BB7

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Summary: problem with character 0BB7

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=536724

   Summary: problem with character 0BB7
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
  Platform: All
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
  Keywords: i18n
  Severity: medium
  Priority: low
 Component: lohit-tamil-fonts
AssignedTo: psatp...@redhat.com
ReportedBy: psatp...@redhat.com
 QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com,
psatp...@redhat.com, fedora-i18n-b...@redhat.com,
skh...@gmail.com
Classification: Fedora
Target Release: ---


Description of problem:

whenever anyone type 0bb7 character with any previous characters, its get
merged with last one

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
lohit-tamil-2.4.3 fonts


How reproducible:
everytimg

Steps to Reproduce:
1.type any tamil cons and type 0bb7
2.
3.

Actual results:
its merging with other one

Expected results:
should not merge with last one

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rpms/cjkuni-fonts/devel cjkuni-fonts-uming-use-latin.patch, NONE, 1.1 cjkuni-fonts.spec, 1.16, 1.17

2009-11-10 Thread Huang Peng
Author: phuang

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/cjkuni-fonts/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv4802

Modified Files:
cjkuni-fonts.spec 
Added Files:
cjkuni-fonts-uming-use-latin.patch 
Log Message:
Use latin font to display common ascii in Chinese string

cjkuni-fonts-uming-use-latin.patch:
 64-ttf-arphic-uming.conf |   12 +---
 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

--- NEW FILE cjkuni-fonts-uming-use-latin.patch ---
--- 64-ttf-arphic-uming.conf.origin 2009-10-20 15:34:29.062453906 +0800
+++ 64-ttf-arphic-uming.conf2009-10-20 16:02:21.272888664 +0800
@@ -8,7 +8,9 @@
test name=family
stringserif/string
/test
-   edit name=family mode=prepend binding=same
+   edit name=family mode=prepend binding=strong
+   stringBitstream Vera Serif/string
+   stringDejaVu Serif/string
stringAR PL UMing HK/string
stringAR PL UMing CN/string
/edit
@@ -20,7 +22,9 @@
test name=family
stringsans-serif/string
/test
-   edit name=family mode=prepend binding=same
+   edit name=family mode=prepend binding=strong
+   stringBitstream Vera Sans/string
+   stringDejaVu Sans/string
stringAR PL UMing HK/string
stringAR PL UMing CN/string
/edit
@@ -32,7 +36,9 @@
test name=family
stringmonospace/string
/test
-   edit name=family mode=prepend binding=same
+   edit name=family mode=prepend binding=strong
+   stringBitstream Vera Sans Mono/string
+   stringDejaVu Sans Mono/string
stringAR PL UMing HK/string
stringAR PL UMing CN/string
/edit


Index: cjkuni-fonts.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/cjkuni-fonts/devel/cjkuni-fonts.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.16
retrieving revision 1.17
diff -u -p -r1.16 -r1.17
--- cjkuni-fonts.spec   4 Nov 2009 06:37:14 -   1.16
+++ cjkuni-fonts.spec   11 Nov 2009 04:19:33 -  1.17
@@ -23,7 +23,7 @@ the CJK Unifonts project.
 
 Name:%{fontname}-fonts
 Version: 0.2.20080216.1
-Release: 30%{?dist}
+Release: 31%{?dist}
 Summary: Chinese Unicode TrueType fonts in Ming and Kai face.
 License: Arphic
 Group:   User Interface/X
@@ -35,6 +35,7 @@ Source3:cjkuni-fonts-gscid-0.1.tgz
 Patch1: cjkunifonts-0.2.20080216.1-2.patch
 Patch2: cjkuni-fonts-0.2.20080216.1-18.patch
 Patch3: cjkuni-fonts-0.2.20080216.1-19.patch
+Patch4: cjkuni-fonts-uming-use-latin.patch
 
 BuildRoot:%(mktemp -ud 
%{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-XX)
 BuildArch:noarch
@@ -159,6 +160,7 @@ CJK Unifonts compatibility files.
 %patch1 -p1 -b .1-rhbz47
 %patch2 -p1 -b .2-rhbz475743
 %patch3 -p1 -b .3-rhbz459680
+%patch4 -p0 -b .4-use-latin
 %setup -q -c -T -a2 -n %{ukaibuilddir}
 %setup -q -c -T -a3 -n %{gsbuilddir}
 
@@ -248,6 +250,9 @@ cd ../
 %__rm -fr %{buildroot}
 
 %changelog
+* Wed Nov 11 2009 Peng Huang shawn.p.hu...@gmail.com - 0.2.20080216.1-31
+- Use latin font to display common ascii in Chinese string 
+
 * Wed Nov  4 2009 Jens Petersen peter...@redhat.com - 0.2.20080216.1-30
 - drop bitmap fontconfig .conf for now (#459680)
 

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rpms/cjkuni-fonts/F-12 cjkuni-fonts.spec,1.14,1.15

2009-11-10 Thread Huang Peng
Author: phuang

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/cjkuni-fonts/F-12
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv5211

Modified Files:
cjkuni-fonts.spec 
Log Message:
Fix some typo


Index: cjkuni-fonts.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/cjkuni-fonts/F-12/cjkuni-fonts.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.14
retrieving revision 1.15
diff -u -p -r1.14 -r1.15
--- cjkuni-fonts.spec   11 Nov 2009 04:04:33 -  1.14
+++ cjkuni-fonts.spec   11 Nov 2009 04:21:18 -  1.15
@@ -22,7 +22,7 @@ the CJK Unifonts project.
 
 Name:%{fontname}-fonts
 Version: 0.2.20080216.1
-Release: 28%{?dist}
+Release: 29%{?dist}
 Summary: Chinese Unicode TrueType fonts in Ming and Kai face.
 License: Arphic
 Group:   User Interface/X
@@ -242,8 +242,8 @@ cd -
 %__rm -fr %{buildroot}
 
 %changelog
-* Wed Nov 11 2009 Peng Huangshawn.p.hu...@gmail.com - 0.2.20080216.1-28
-- Use latin font for to display common ascii in Chines string
+* Wed Nov 11 2009 Peng Huang shawn.p.hu...@gmail.com - 0.2.20080216.1-29
+- Use latin font to display common ascii in Chinese string
 
 * Mon Sep 21 2009 Caius 'kaio' Chance k at kaio.me - 0.2.20080216.1-27.fc12
 - Merged from F-11 tree.

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rpms/lohit-tamil-fonts/F-12 anchor-bug.patch, NONE, 1.1 lohit-tamil-fonts.spec, 1.3, 1.4

2009-11-10 Thread Pravin Satpute
Author: pravins

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/lohit-tamil-fonts/F-12
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv11143

Modified Files:
lohit-tamil-fonts.spec 
Added Files:
anchor-bug.patch 
Log Message:
* Wed Nov 11 2009 Pravin Satpute psatp...@redhat.com - 2.4.4-3
- resolved rh bug 536724


anchor-bug.patch:
 Lohit-Tamil.sfd |6 +++---
 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

--- NEW FILE anchor-bug.patch ---
diff -rup lohit-tamil-2.4.4/Lohit-Tamil.sfd 
lohit-tamil-2.4.4_mod/Lohit-Tamil.sfd
--- lohit-tamil-2.4.4/Lohit-Tamil.sfd   2009-09-21 20:44:28.0 +1000
+++ lohit-tamil-2.4.4_mod/Lohit-Tamil.sfd   2009-11-11 14:41:12.0 
+1000
@@ -7001,7 +7001,7 @@ PUSHW_3
  5
 CALL
 EndTTInstrs
-AnchorPoint: Anchor-0 501 408 mark 0
+AnchorPoint: Anchor-0 501 408 basechar 0
 LayerCount: 2
 Fore
 SplineSet
@@ -7542,7 +7542,7 @@ StartChar: u0BC1
 Encoding: 3009 3009 91
 Width: 433
 GlyphClass: 4
-Flags: HW
+Flags: W
 TtInstrs:
 NPUSHW
  14
@@ -7613,7 +7613,7 @@ StartChar: u0BC2
 Encoding: 3010 3010 92
 Width: 632
 GlyphClass: 4
-Flags: HW
+Flags: W
 TtInstrs:
 NPUSHW
  22


Index: lohit-tamil-fonts.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/lohit-tamil-fonts/F-12/lohit-tamil-fonts.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.3
retrieving revision 1.4
diff -u -p -r1.3 -r1.4
--- lohit-tamil-fonts.spec  25 Sep 2009 12:14:47 -  1.3
+++ lohit-tamil-fonts.spec  11 Nov 2009 04:47:37 -  1.4
@@ -3,7 +3,7 @@
 
 Name:   %{fontname}-fonts
 Version:2.4.4
-Release:2%{?dist}
+Release:3%{?dist}
 Summary:Free Tamil font
 
 Group:  User Interface/X
@@ -16,13 +16,15 @@ BuildRequires: fontforge = 20080429
 BuildRequires:  fontpackages-devel
 Requires:   fontpackages-filesystem
 Obsoletes: lohit-fonts-common  %{version}-%{release}
+Patch1: anchor-bug.patch
 
 %description
 This package provides a free Tamil truetype/opentype font.
 
 
 %prep
-%setup -q -n %{fontname}-%{version} 
+%setup -q -n %{fontname}-%{version}
+%patch1 -p1 -b  .1-anchor-problem
 
 
 %build
@@ -53,6 +55,9 @@ rm -fr %{buildroot}
 
 
 %changelog
+* Wed Nov 11 2009 Pravin Satpute psatp...@redhat.com - 2.4.4-3
+- resolved rh bug 536724
+
 * Fri Sep 25 2009 Pravin Satpute psatp...@redhat.com - 2.4.4-2
 - updated specs
 

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rpms/lohit-tamil-fonts/devel anchor-bug.patch, NONE, 1.1 lohit-tamil-fonts.spec, 1.3, 1.4

2009-11-10 Thread Pravin Satpute
Author: pravins

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/lohit-tamil-fonts/devel
In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv12048

Modified Files:
lohit-tamil-fonts.spec 
Added Files:
anchor-bug.patch 
Log Message:
* Wed Nov 11 2009 Pravin Satpute psatp...@redhat.com - 2.4.4-3
- resolved rh bug 536724


anchor-bug.patch:
 Lohit-Tamil.sfd |6 +++---
 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

--- NEW FILE anchor-bug.patch ---
diff -rup lohit-tamil-2.4.4/Lohit-Tamil.sfd 
lohit-tamil-2.4.4_mod/Lohit-Tamil.sfd
--- lohit-tamil-2.4.4/Lohit-Tamil.sfd   2009-09-21 20:44:28.0 +1000
+++ lohit-tamil-2.4.4_mod/Lohit-Tamil.sfd   2009-11-11 14:41:12.0 
+1000
@@ -7001,7 +7001,7 @@ PUSHW_3
  5
 CALL
 EndTTInstrs
-AnchorPoint: Anchor-0 501 408 mark 0
+AnchorPoint: Anchor-0 501 408 basechar 0
 LayerCount: 2
 Fore
 SplineSet
@@ -7542,7 +7542,7 @@ StartChar: u0BC1
 Encoding: 3009 3009 91
 Width: 433
 GlyphClass: 4
-Flags: HW
+Flags: W
 TtInstrs:
 NPUSHW
  14
@@ -7613,7 +7613,7 @@ StartChar: u0BC2
 Encoding: 3010 3010 92
 Width: 632
 GlyphClass: 4
-Flags: HW
+Flags: W
 TtInstrs:
 NPUSHW
  22


Index: lohit-tamil-fonts.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/lohit-tamil-fonts/devel/lohit-tamil-fonts.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.3
retrieving revision 1.4
diff -u -p -r1.3 -r1.4
--- lohit-tamil-fonts.spec  25 Sep 2009 12:14:47 -  1.3
+++ lohit-tamil-fonts.spec  11 Nov 2009 04:50:00 -  1.4
@@ -3,7 +3,7 @@
 
 Name:   %{fontname}-fonts
 Version:2.4.4
-Release:2%{?dist}
+Release:3%{?dist}
 Summary:Free Tamil font
 
 Group:  User Interface/X
@@ -16,13 +16,15 @@ BuildRequires: fontforge = 20080429
 BuildRequires:  fontpackages-devel
 Requires:   fontpackages-filesystem
 Obsoletes: lohit-fonts-common  %{version}-%{release}
+Patch1: anchor-bug.patch
 
 %description
 This package provides a free Tamil truetype/opentype font.
 
 
 %prep
-%setup -q -n %{fontname}-%{version} 
+%setup -q -n %{fontname}-%{version}
+%patch1 -p1 -b  .1-anchor-problem
 
 
 %build
@@ -53,6 +55,9 @@ rm -fr %{buildroot}
 
 
 %changelog
+* Wed Nov 11 2009 Pravin Satpute psatp...@redhat.com - 2.4.4-3
+- resolved rh bug 536724
+
 * Fri Sep 25 2009 Pravin Satpute psatp...@redhat.com - 2.4.4-2
 - updated specs
 

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[Bug 536724] problem with character 0BB7

2009-11-10 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=536724





--- Comment #2 from K. Sethu skh...@gmail.com  2009-11-11 00:12:26 EDT ---
Thanks for the quick action.

I will test in my Fedora later in tonight and report

K. Sethu

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[Bug 536724] problem with character 0BB7

2009-11-10 Thread bugzilla
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Pravin Satpute psatp...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |MODIFIED




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[Bug 536724] problem with character 0BB7

2009-11-10 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=536724





--- Comment #1 from Pravin Satpute psatp...@redhat.com  2009-11-10 23:55:54 
EDT ---
fixed bug in lohit-tamil-fonts-2.4.4-3.fc12 and rawhide as well

one can quick test font with 

$ wget
http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/lohit-tamil-fonts/2.4.4/3.fc12/noarch/lohit-tamil-fonts-2.4.4-3.fc12.noarch.rpm

$ su
$ rpm -Uhv lohit-tamil-fonts-2.4.4-3.fc12.noarch.rpm

please let me if there any other bug

so i can commit same in lohit upstream, so fix will be available toa ll

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[Bug 225617] Merge Review: bitmap-fonts

2009-11-10 Thread bugzilla
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Pravin Satpute psatp...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Flag||needinfo?(nicolas.mail...@l
   ||aposte.net)




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Re: M+ fonts

2009-11-10 Thread Nicolas Mailhot


Le Mar 10 novembre 2009 07:45, Igshaan Mesias a écrit :

 Hi,

 2009/11/10 かいお (Kaio) k...@kaio.me:
 (CC'ed Tom 'spot' Callaway)

 Are all the fonts listed in
 http://www.geocities.jp/ep3797/modified_fonts_01.html members of mplus font?

The font listed there seem to be mixes of multiple fonts. Which is only going
to work if the licenses of all the font files used are compatible with each
other (mixes is one big reason why sticking to standard licenses is a good
idea)

 Also the license statements on
 http://mplus-fonts.sourceforge.jp/mplus-outline-fonts/#license in full?

 Could you persuade the author to release under GPL or any other better
 license?

 I will try.

GPL + FE or OFl please

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Re: M+ fonts

2009-11-10 Thread Nicolas Mailhot


Le Mar 10 novembre 2009 00:49, かいお (Kaio) a écrit :

 (2009年11月10日 05:15), Igshaan Mesias wrote:
 I have packaged M+ family of fonts.
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/M%2B_fonts

 Hi Igshaan,

 I wonder if you could package it with alphanumeric name? such as
 mplus-fonts because I worry if usage of `+` could pass the package
 review. :)

We have some packages with + in their names in the repo, however this is not
something we want to generalise.

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drop SECURITY_FILE_CAPABILITIES? (fwd)

2009-11-10 Thread James Morris
How might this affect the Fedora kernel?

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:07:39 -0600
From: Serge E. Hallyn se...@us.ibm.com
To: lkml linux-ker...@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-security-mod...@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morgan mor...@kernel.org,
Steve Grubb sgr...@redhat.com, Kees Cook kees.c...@canonical.com,
Andreas Gruenbacher agr...@suse.de,
Michael Kerrisk mtk.manpa...@gmail.com,
George Wilson gcwil...@us.ibm.com
Subject: drop SECURITY_FILE_CAPABILITIES?

Hey,

Just a probe to see what people think.  I've seen two cases
in about the last month where software was confounded by
an assumption that prctl(PR_CAPBSET_DROP, CAP_SOMETHING)
would succeed if privileged, but not handling the fact
that SECURITY_FILE_CAPABILITIES=n means you can't do that.

Are we at the point yet where we feel we can get rid of
the SECURITY_FILE_CAPABILITIES=n case?

Note that there is a boot arg no_file_caps which prevents
file capabilities from being used if SECURITY_FILE_CAPABILITIES=y.
I think that's the case most users will care about, whereas the
remaining differences between CONFIG_SECURITY_FILE_CAPABILITIES=y
and =n are that with CONFIG_SECURITY_FILE_CAPABILITIES=y :

(1) certain security hooks (task_setscheduler, task_setioprio, and
task_setnice) do capability set comparisions,
(2) it is possible to drop capabilities from the bounding set,
(3) it is possible to set per-task securelevels,
(4) and it is possible to add any capability to your inheritable
set if you have CAP_SETPCAP.

Does anyone know of cases where CONFIG_SECURITY_FILE_CAPABILITIES=n
is still perceived as useful?

thanks,
-serge
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Re: drop SECURITY_FILE_CAPABILITIES? (fwd)

2009-11-10 Thread Dave Jones
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 09:56:57AM +1100, James Morris wrote:
  How might this affect the Fedora kernel?

We set it =y, so it wouldn't affect us if I understand correctly.
Also, I'm not sure that anything in userspace is actually using
this feature yet anyway.

Dave
 

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Re: Initializing hardware (new problem)

2009-11-10 Thread Veli-Pekka Kestilä

Robt C Parrish Sr. wrote:
and went back to the LiveCD. The installation went perfectly. After 
all was set and done I booted into Fedora.  When I got to the Login I 
tried to login as root and got an Authentication Failure message.  
In other words, it wouldn't let me log in as root (yes I used the 
correct password).  It would only allow me to log in as a user.  I 
know I can use 'su' to switch.  I can't think of a specific situation 
at the moment as to why but I would like the ability to log in as root.
This is disabled in the graphical login. If you press ALT-F2 (I hope I 
remember it correctly) Anyway when using ALF-F? you can change between 
graphical login and textmode. In the textmode console you can login as 
root if you need to do some system maintenance. All the graphical system 
maintenance tools should be run from your normal user account and 
supplied with root password when asked.


-vpk

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Disappointed with the Upcoming Fedora 12 Release

2009-11-10 Thread Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
Hi,

Fedora is my favorite Linux distribution. I have been eagerly anticipating
the upcoming release of Fedora 12 but am disappointed to discover that it
will not support Xen pv-ops dom0 kernel.

QUOTE
 Xen Kernel Support

The kernel package in Fedora 12 supports booting as a guest domU, but will
not function as a dom0 until such support is provided upstream. Work is
ongoing and hopes are high that support will be included in kernel 2.6.33
and Fedora 13.

The most recent Fedora release with dom0 support is Fedora 8.
/QUOTE

Link: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats/Virtualization

Here is a list of my Xen pv-ops dom0-related videos on Youtube so far. I am
using Fedora 11 x86_64 as my host operating system.

[1] PCI Express x16 VGA Passthrough to Xen-based Windows XP Home HVM Virtual
Machine Part 1 of 2

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNEiSInrav0

[2] PCI Express x16 VGA Passthrough to Xen-based Windows XP Home HVM Virtual
Machine Part 2 of 2

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hOT_9LIG5w

[3] The Final Solution: Open Source Xen VGA Passthrough

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ia3IwG6tp4

[4] Playing 3D FPS Game Alien Arena in Xen-based Windows XP Home Edition HVM
Virtual Machine

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tLzYqIJ7Q0

[5] Xen Virtualization VGA Passthrough: 3D Gaming Benchmark Results Part 2
of 2

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYg6n8yBktM

[6] Xen Virtualization VGA Passthrough: 3D Gaming Benchmark Results Part 1
of 2

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I13E1MQbMc

[7] Xen Virtualization VGA Passthrough: Disk I/O Benchmark Results

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL7JS4PMpzY

[8] Xen Virtualization VGA Passthrough: PerformanceTest 7.0 Virtual CPU
Benchmark Results

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLR-o9tX_Tw

[9] Xen Virtualization VGA Passthrough: SiSoftware Sandra Virtual Processor
Benchmark Part 1 of 2

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUXOAPce_40

[10] Xen Virtualization VGA Passthrough: SiSoftware Sandra Virtual Processor
Benchmark Part 2 of 2

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5lle8WOHLE

[11] Xen Virtualization VGA Passthrough: Playing 3D FPS Games in Windows XP
HVM Virtual Machine

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pikwgl8bac8

[12] Xen Virtualization  Intel VT-d: Direct Hardware Access to Graphics
Card by Windows Virtual Machines

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHUwg_zxYgw

[13] Xen Virtualization, VT-d, VGA Passthrough,  Windows XP HVM Virtual
Machine: Super PI 32M Benchmark

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mxuNRiMxDU

[14] Xen Virtualization: Super PI 32M Benchmark 2nd Iteration

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7W0OFFcw7I

[15] How to Setup a Virtual Supercomputer Center or HPC Cluster using Xen
Virtual Machines Part 1 of 2

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmNKi6CoExM

[16] How to Setup a Virtual Supercomputer Center or HPC Cluster using Xen
Virtual Machines Part 2 of 2

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAqDESEWMjM

[17] Building a Rocks HPC Cluster with Xen Hardware Virtual Machines (HVM)

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbLaPpwNAx4

[18] Building a Rocks HPC Cluster with Xen Hardware Virtual Machines (HVM)
(Update 1)

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWHIImVBr4o



Because of the absence of official support for Xen pv-ops dom0 kernel in
Fedora 11, I have to manually and laboriously configure my home multimedia
and general purpose desktop system over a period of 2-3 months. Admittedly I
have gained a lot of useful knowledge throughout the process. Thanks to
Boris' setup guides, and assistance from Pasi, Han Weidong from Intel Corp,
Jeremy Fitzhardinge from Citrix, and the rest of the Xen developers
community, I have managed to get a fully working Xen pv-ops dom0 Fedora 11
host operating system.

It will be a daunting task for newbie Linux users who want to setup a Xen
pv-ops dom0 system with the more recent releases of Fedora. Please do
consider including Xen pv-ops dom0 kernel in the next release of Fedora.

Michael Young has Xen dom0 kernel RPM packages for FC12. I am surprised that
they are not included in the upcoming Fedora 12 release.

Link: http://myoung.fedorapeople.org/dom0/x86_64/

Thank you.

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Re: Fedora 11 x86_64, ATI HD4870, and RPM Fusion's Catalyst Drivers...

2009-11-10 Thread suvayu ali
Hi everyone,

2009/11/6 suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com:
 2009/11/6 Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com:
 On Fri, Nov 06, 2009 at 02:28:19PM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 06, 2009 at 12:06:58 -0800,
   suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  The next month I am in the middle of something very critical, so can't
  really play around, I need my system to stay up and running. I am even
  holding off the F12 upgrade for this. Would testing with the F12
  LiveCD and giving feedback based on that help? I could easily do that
  without disturbing my current setup.

 I doubt you'd get the experimental driver package on any of the live images.
 So you'd need to make your own live image. That may be more trouble than
 it's worth.

 Actually... the thing to do is to make a Live USB out of a Live image,
 and then you can add/remove packages as needed.  A 2 GB USB key will
 run you around USD $5-6 online and they're so handy to have around.

 The nightly composes have Live images you can try out immediately, no
 need to wait for the final release, even.  Have fun!

 The manufacturers say boot from USB is supported on my board, but I
 have never had success with it. :( But I can always create my own
 custom LiveCD, then I don't have to worry about much. :) I will try
 one of these methods and see how things go.

 Thanks for the suggestions everyone.

Just wanted to report that I tried out the 64 bit Game spin Live DVD,
installed mesa-dri-drivers-experimental as Bruno had suggested, and
everything was almost perfect. I could even join a quakelive match and
spectate. (for some odd reason it didn't recognise my keystrokes
leaving no option but to spec) I also started up stellarium nigth sky
viewer, it ran very smoothly although it did crash everytime I clicked
a drop down menu. All in all, it was a very pleasant experience and I
would definitely keep trying it out from time to time along with my
proprietary drivers and switch permanently as soon as it plays my
favourite games without much trouble. :)

Thank you radeon devs. :)
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Re: Evolution mail and TNEF attachment plugin

2009-11-10 Thread David Timms

On 11/10/2009 09:45 AM, Jud Craft wrote:

Hello all.

I see on the internet that there is a utility to decode
TNEF/(Microsoft Outlook)-type email attachments.  The utility
(library?) looks like its available in Fedora.

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/search/
for tnef you'll see what is already packaged.

I recently packaged tnef, which is a pure command line application. I 
added gnome and kde context menus so that if you receive a mail with a 
tnef attachment, you save the attachment, and then right click on the 
file and use open with extract tnef archive.


The package has not yet completed review, but the spec, and source rpm 
are available on the review request:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522920
Any reviewers are welcome to help out by sorting out the final stages of 
the review.



However, there is a separate Evolution plugin that appears to be
upstream (since GNOME 2.12 [1]).  This plugin doesn't seem to be
available in Fedora.  Are there any plans to make it available?

1.  https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=271398
I have heard about that, but as a non-evolution it isn't interesting for 
me. How about you ? Want to contribute to the Fedora community and learn 
a little a packaging software for a distro ?


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Re: Old Dual Pentium III 500Mhz Servers

2009-11-10 Thread Andrew Haley

Frode Petersen wrote:

I wonder how one could profile an entire OS to find out where the cycles 
  go? Is it feasible?


Definitely: OProfile is your friend.  I do it all the time.

Andrew.

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Re: [Fedora-xen] Disappointed with the Upcoming Fedora 12 Release

2009-11-10 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 04:38:27PM +0800, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:
Hi,
 
Fedora is my favorite Linux distribution. I have been eagerly anticipating
the upcoming release of Fedora 12 but am disappointed to discover that it
will not support Xen pv-ops dom0 kernel.
 

pv_ops dom0 kernel has only recently started working for many/most
people, so it was too late for F12 release.

There are still some missing features, most notably missing blktap2 support
for tap:aio: file-based images.

But it seems features are ported and bugs are fixed pretty fast now, so
let's hope pv_ops dom0 kernel can be included for F13!

It works for me, and for you aswell. So it's getting there..

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Re: Initializing hardware

2009-11-10 Thread Roger
If I can figure out why version 11 hangs on initializing hardware I can 
install that version.  If I can figure out what version 12 halts after 
the bootloader I can install that version.  I am really interested in 
getting Fedora installed.



I had identical problem and found that the installation app on the cd 
was seeking the floppy drive via the motherboard bios. It stalled for 
about 15 minutes then reported that it could not locate  a fd0 drive. 
The drive was faulty or disconnected.


I went into bios - (F12) on my system - on boot up before the bios seeks 
the cdrom and set it on 'No Floppy Drive' and set the seek which looks 
for drives to ignore the floppy drive.

The installation went ahead no problems.

Roger

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Re: [Fedora-xen] Disappointed with the Upcoming Fedora 12 Release

2009-11-10 Thread Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
Sigh...Another six months wait...

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On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Pasi Kärkkäinen pa...@iki.fi wrote:

 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 04:38:27PM +0800, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
 wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Fedora is my favorite Linux distribution. I have been eagerly
 anticipating
 the upcoming release of Fedora 12 but am disappointed to discover that
 it
 will not support Xen pv-ops dom0 kernel.
 

 pv_ops dom0 kernel has only recently started working for many/most
 people, so it was too late for F12 release.

 There are still some missing features, most notably missing blktap2 support
 for tap:aio: file-based images.

 But it seems features are ported and bugs are fixed pretty fast now, so
 let's hope pv_ops dom0 kernel can be included for F13!

 It works for me, and for you aswell. So it's getting there..

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Re: Old Dual Pentium III 500Mhz Servers

2009-11-10 Thread David Timms

On 11/10/2009 09:40 AM, Aaron Gray wrote:

I have two old servers Dual Pentium III 500Mhz and have just replaced
two older single CPU Pentium III 500Mhz machines.

I had FC4 and FC5 on the older servers.

Now have F11 on the two newer machines.
I would say the same for an old pentium II 366 notebook (512MB). The 
Fedora 3 or so that was around when it first received a linux distro was 
much snappier than F10 (the most recent one I tried).


Things to think about:
- if you are talking about the same machine, disk drive tiredness would 
have reduced the access speed that you can achieve, when r/w to disk.


- fans may be worn, running slowly, and noisily, leading to poor cooling 
of components and temp sensors kicking in to reduce clock rates.


- the kernel is general purpose, and aimed for the most common machine 
that it will get put on eg see stats: (and ram, cache sizes types speed).

http://www.smolts.org/static/stats/stats.html

- stack hardening / etc in libraries / compiled programs

- security updates adding proper checking of eg received/entered strings 
etc - just more processing to be done (that should have been done in the 
original release, but was instead added over time as security analysis 
showed poor handling)


- selinux (was it in and on, active in your older release) ?

- defaulting to use of layered storage (ie lvm) in newer releases ?

- audio - possibly biggest CPU killer is runtime audio dsp mixing (eg an 
old machine just passed audio data to the sound card, and it was 
attenuated there before output - might have been 1-2% cpu. same machine 
playing back audio now might used 30-50% cpu.


- more stuff that instead of using fd's to pass information, instead 
using other methods like dbus calls with xml like data to encode then 
decode.


- more stuff relying on storage/retrieval of information from 
inefficient storage formats like xml


- more web sites assuming you have fast CPU, infinite bandwidth, and 
infinite monthly download limits, leading to sites:

  - filled with far too many ads (firefox adblock)
  - far to much active content like flash (flashblock)
  - far too many stat, counting, tracking connections to make

- familiarity with faster machines changing your perceptions of speed.

- Fedora joining of Fedora and Extras, increasing the size of metadata 
dl needed for updates etc. (although with better caching methods, and 
some optimized parsing).


If we consider moore's law saying we'll get a doubling of CPU 
performance every 18 months, the corollary must be we'll bloat our os 
and applications to at least exceed the above as operational 
requirements; end result is actual decline in capability over time...


If you have two identical machines: you might be in the best position to 
do direct A-B comparisons of same hardware, different OS. Get the 
stopwatch out, what type of things take longer/shorter ?


I am sure others can think of more excuses why same machine would be 
slower with newer OS.


DaveT.

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Re: Evolution mail and TNEF attachment plugin

2009-11-10 Thread Jud Craft
 I have heard about that, but as a non-evolution it isn't interesting for me.
 How about you ? Want to contribute to the Fedora community and learn a
 little a packaging software for a distro ?

I'm not sure I understand.  Are you saying it's not an actual Evolution plugin?

I can't help package right now, not enough free time.

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Re: [Fedora-xen] Disappointed with the Upcoming Fedora 12 Release

2009-11-10 Thread Todd Zullinger
Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote:
 Sigh...Another six months wait...

This is a complaint that should be made to the Xen folks for not
getting their stuff upstream sooner (I'm sure they would appreciate
complaints in unified diff format).  It's completely unreasonable to
expect the Fedora kernel maintainers to backport non-trivial features
like Xen and be able to keep up with normal kernel updates.

(They did this in Fedora 8 and earlier and it was a huge burden.)

It's good to see things are finally moving upstream now.  If Fedora's
decision to not include Xen until it was upstream had anything to do
with that, then it's a very good thing. :)

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Re: [Fedora-xen] Disappointed with the Upcoming Fedora 12 Release

2009-11-10 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 02:05:10PM +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 04:38:27PM +0800, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) 
 wrote:
 Hi,
  
 Fedora is my favorite Linux distribution. I have been eagerly 
  anticipating
 the upcoming release of Fedora 12 but am disappointed to discover that it
 will not support Xen pv-ops dom0 kernel.
  
 
 pv_ops dom0 kernel has only recently started working for many/most
 people, so it was too late for F12 release.
 
 There are still some missing features, most notably missing blktap2 support
 for tap:aio: file-based images.
 
 But it seems features are ported and bugs are fixed pretty fast now, so
 let's hope pv_ops dom0 kernel can be included for F13!
 
 It works for me, and for you aswell. So it's getting there..
 

Also Fedora kernel developers want to have all the main features
included in the upstream kernel - they don't want to maintain
out-of-the-tree patches. 

pv_ops dom0 patches are not yet included in the upstream kernel.
Although Jeremy's git tree is tracking upstream pretty closely now.

http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/jeremy/xen.git;a=shortlog;h=xen/master

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Re: Evolution mail and TNEF attachment plugin

2009-11-10 Thread David Timms

On 11/10/2009 11:56 PM, Jud Craft wrote:

I have heard about that, but as a non-evolution it isn't interesting for me.

I meant non-evolution user, it isn't ;-)

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removing plasma activities

2009-11-10 Thread Dj YB
I am using kde 4.3.2
when zooming out I see 5 activites but I can't see anywere a way to delete 
them only to add new and I don't want that.
any help is welcome
thanks.

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rhythmbox, UPNP, firewalls etc.

2009-11-10 Thread Jud Craft
Hey.  Two problems when using Rhythmbox's UPNP plugin.

1.  How can I open up the Fedora firewall correctly?  I've seen posts
that in forums (eg. Ubuntu) that say open port UDP-1900, but I tried
this and I still can't see my friends in the network (as opposed to
firewall-off, when I can see them just fine).

2.  When I turn my firewall off to share my Rhythmbox, my
Windows-using friends can't access it.  They see it on the network but
it's just a strange device, rather than a Media Device readable by
Windows Media Player.

So how do I actually get this stuff to work?  I was under the
impression that this should be relatively easy.

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Re: Simple Network Question: Part 2

2009-11-10 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 15:11 -0500, Tait Clarridge wrote:
 for a pretty solid router I would go for the Dlink DIR-655 extreme

Have they improved their interface in recent years?  The DLink I bought,
a year or so ago, has the most awful web interface to use.  A friend's
Netgear was a lot better.


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Re: Initializing hardware (new problem)

2009-11-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 00:51 -0500, Robt C Parrish Sr. wrote:
 In other words, it wouldn't let me log in 
 as root (yes I used the correct password).  It would only allow me to
 log in as a user.  I know I can use 'su' to switch.  I can't think of
 a specific situation at the moment as to why but I would like the
 ability to log in as root.

This is a policy decision by the Gnome people and is the same in F11.
There has been much discussion of it on this list so you can Google for
workarounds if you like. Personally I think it's a Good Thing (tm) even
though as a KDE user it doesn't affect me, but let's not start another
thread about it :-)

(BTW the reason you can't think of why you would need to log in to the
GUI desktop as root is that there is no scenario in which that is the
only option to solve a problem).

poc

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Re: Old Dual Pentium III 500Mhz Servers

2009-11-10 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 22:40 +, Aaron Gray wrote:
 The new machines seem slower than the old ones were when they were
 originally put on line 4 or 5 years ago when running Apache
  
 It this a F11 v FC5 thing, or can I claw back some cycles by disabling
 some services and streamlineing Apache ?

Is it just a server?  Turn off the graphical mode, and leave it running
at run level 3, there'll be less intensive stuff being needlessly done
by the computer.  That, and the obvious turn off all the services that
you don't need.

Over the years, I've seen Fedora get more efficient, then someone takes
advantage of that and makes the next release do more work (fancier X,
fancier audio, etc.), and it becomes more of a slug, needing newer
faster hardware.


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Slow Performance w/ Google Earth

2009-11-10 Thread Charlie McVeigh
Starting about a month ago Goggle Earth started running so slowly that
it is virtually unusable - prior to this I never had any performance
issues with GE.  On my dual core system, one CPU tends to stay maxed out
at 100% utilization and it will take 45-60 seconds to display the
startup globe.  Once up, zooming in or moving around are so painfully
slow that you just give up and close the application.

Here are some of my particulars:

i)  Lenvo Thinkpad T61, with Fedora 11 x86_64 up to date.  nVIDIA Quadro
NVS 140M graphics with kmod-nvidia drivers up to date.  GLXgears = 4379
frames per second performance.

ii) I have uninstalled and re-installed Google Earth several times  and
I experience the same slowness with both versions 4.3 and 5.1 of Google
Earth.

iii) Per advice from Googling for suggestions I have turned atmosphere
off in GE.

iv) When starting GE from the command line I get the following Error:

Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has version 190.42,
but this NVIDIA driver component has version 190.25.  Please make
sure that the kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components
have the same version.


I am wondering if I have some sort of library mismatch between x86_64
and i586 versions of RPMs that are installed on my machine.

Any thoughts on how to troubleshoot this problem would be most
appreciated.

Charlie

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Re: Old Dual Pentium III 500Mhz Servers

2009-11-10 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 23:47 +1100, David Timms wrote:
 Things to think about:
 - if you are talking about the same machine, disk drive tiredness
 would have reduced the access speed that you can achieve, when r/w to
 disk.

Beg yours...  drive tiredness?  The old gray mare not what she used to
be?  Since when do drives become old age pensioners with blankets on
their laps, day dreaming about the old days, instead of doing the same
as they were doing last week?

 - more stuff relying on storage/retrieval of information from 
 inefficient storage formats like xml

Reminds me of back when I was using an Amiga - any program that stored
its configuration in a text file took ages to parse it as the program
started up.  Whereas those that stored their data in the programs binary
format were very nippy.

Even now, on fast GHz CPUs, I've noticed that you can get Apache or
Squid to start up much quicker if you purged the masses of comments out
of the configuration file, so the program had less to parse.

Yes, the programs do parse the comments, they've got to find the end of
the comment to find the next instructions that they're going to use, the
whole file is parsed.

And, yes, I know there's other advantages in text based configuration
files (you can tweak them yourself, and the program designer can be lazy
about creating GUI/TUI configuration routines).  But, on the other side
of the coin, a configurator can be designed to not let the user pick
mutually exclusive options.

 If we consider moore's law saying we'll get a doubling of CPU 
 performance every 18 months, the corollary must be we'll bloat our os 
 and applications to at least exceed the above as operational 
 requirements; end result is actual decline in capability over time...

Computer users nightmare number 9:  Part way through the installation
process, a message pops up, You're going to need a bigger boat


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Re: Hotswapping SATA question

2009-11-10 Thread DJ Delorie

I just hot swapped all (including boot and swap!) the drives out of my
F10 server for an upgrade.  I used the raid tools to cleanly fail and
remove the drive, then just pulled them out.  The syslog showed them
hardware-failing.  Then I plugged the new ones in.  The syslog showed
them being detected.  fdisk, raid add, done!

This was with the sata_mv driver, rocketraid 1820a card.

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Re: Old Dual Pentium III 500Mhz Servers

2009-11-10 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 03:50 +1030, Tim wrote:
 On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 23:47 +1100, David Timms wrote:
  Things to think about:
  - if you are talking about the same machine, disk drive tiredness
  would have reduced the access speed that you can achieve, when r/w to
  disk.
 
 Beg yours...  drive tiredness?  The old gray mare not what she used to
 be?  Since when do drives become old age pensioners with blankets on
 their laps, day dreaming about the old days, instead of doing the same
 as they were doing last week?

Since they use sector remapping to recover failed errors and ECC/parity
codes to recover data errors. As sectors have to be remapped elsewhere
on disk seek overheads will increase. There may also be further
penalties as the recoverable media error rate rises, i.e. the disk has
to issue repeated reads to correctly retrieve the data for a particular
sector.

Sometimes you'll see this acutely when a sector is failing - the drive
will appear to go out to lunch for a moment when the tricky sector is
accessed. If spare sectors are still available a write to the offending
location may cause the drive to spare it out and avoid the problem for a
while.

Looking at the S.M.A.R.T. reports for the drive can help you understand
if this is the problem for a particular system.

Often though I've seen users diagnose a problem like this as old
hardware getting slow when in fact it's a software or file system
issue.

  - more stuff relying on storage/retrieval of information from 
  inefficient storage formats like xml
 
 Reminds me of back when I was using an Amiga - any program that stored
 its configuration in a text file took ages to parse it as the program
 started up.  Whereas those that stored their data in the programs binary
 format were very nippy.
 
 Even now, on fast GHz CPUs, I've noticed that you can get Apache or
 Squid to start up much quicker if you purged the masses of comments out
 of the configuration file, so the program had less to parse.
 
 Yes, the programs do parse the comments, they've got to find the end of
 the comment to find the next instructions that they're going to use, the
 whole file is parsed.

Depends how you look at it - most comment notations have a
line-delimiter (e.g. # in apache). This only requires examining the
first character of the line to know that the rest must be ignored (of
course the entire line must still be read into memory which does impose
overhead especially if there are many lines of commentary as is often
the case for default config files). Block comments do require consuming
characters until the end-of-comment token is reached.
 
 Computer users nightmare number 9:  Part way through the installation
 process, a message pops up, You're going to need a bigger boat

Nice way of putting it!

Regards,
Bryn.


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Re: Hotswapping SATA question

2009-11-10 Thread Konstantin Svist

On 11/10/2009 09:42 AM, DJ Delorie wrote:

I just hot swapped all (including boot and swap!) the drives out of my
F10 server for an upgrade.  I used the raid tools to cleanly fail and
remove the drive, then just pulled them out.  The syslog showed them
hardware-failing.  Then I plugged the new ones in.  The syslog showed
them being detected.  fdisk, raid add, done!

This was with the sata_mv driver, rocketraid 1820a card.

   


What are the raid tools? And if there isn't a man page, how do you use them?


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Re: Old Dual Pentium III 500Mhz Servers

2009-11-10 Thread Aaron Gray
2009/11/9 H. Willstrand h.willstr...@gmail.com:
 Hi!

 On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Aaron Gray
 aaronngray.li...@googlemail.com wrote:
 I have two old servers Dual Pentium III 500Mhz and have just replaced
 two older single CPU Pentium III 500Mhz machines.

 I had FC4 and FC5 on the older servers.

 Now have F11 on the two newer machines.

 The new machines seem slower than the old ones were when they were
 originally put on line 4 or 5 years ago when running Apache

 It this a F11 v FC5 thing, or can I claw back some cycles by disabling
 some services and streamlineing Apache ?

 Any wisdom welcome,

 In /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf try changing KeepAlive to On. This might help.

Nice, done that, thanks,

Aaron

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