Re: How to record internal sound on f11 w/audacity [solved]

2009-12-03 Thread Gene Smith

Gene Smith wrote, On 11/20/2009 01:33 AM:

I managed to figure this out using f? several releases back but have
been unable to determine how to record internal sounds (e.g., while
listen to ogg file with xmms heard on speakers) using audacity. I have
the default f11 sound setup (pulse?) and my "sound card" is built-in to
motherboard type via8237 I think (as shown on mixer kde applet, or
possibly ac'97, not sure what it's called). Any pointer appreciated.

-gene
P/s: I am able to edit exiting ogg and/or mp3 file in audacity by simply
running the file, no problem with that.



In KDE, run "PulseAudio Volume Control". Under "Recording" tab, make 
sure "Move Stream..." is set to "Monitor Internal Audio" with Audacity 
running and monitoring. Then it works (for me). In Audacity preferences, 
Playback and Record set to ALSA:default work too.



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Re: provider for google calendar

2009-12-03 Thread oleksandr korneta

on 12/03/2009 08:15 PM Kevin J. Cummings wrote:

On 12/03/2009 07:30 PM, suvayu ali wrote:

2009/12/3 oleksandr korneta:

so I'm  on Fedora 12, 64bit. It was an unpleasant surprise to find out that
that some extensions for thunderbird from mozilla's website cannot be
installed because of 64bit architecture (wtf? is this opensource or what?).
Yes I'm talking about lightning calendar extension. Anyway, turns out some
good people did package it and put in repository. But it is useless for me
without the Provider  for google calendar. And this one is not packaged and
cannot be instaled from mozilla's website. So, does anybody have similar
problem/has a solution? Maybe someone can point me to some "how to recompile
Provider for google calendar" blog article?



I use both lightning and google calendars on Fedora 11 x86_64. Please
check before you curse. Right now I'm at work, I 'll post back with
the packages you need to install when I am home. Maybe someone will
post that information before I return from work.

GL


I got my last F11 copy (that I've needed) from:


http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-comm-1.9.1/linux-xpi/gdata-provider.xpi
thanks Kevin. At least I was able to install this one without problems. 
However it still does not work. It stays grayed out in add-ons list and 
says "Requires additional items." in Thunderbird Add-ons window. Now I'm 
really curious what is this additional item I'm missing





and that was last August!

F11 is currently running thunderbird-3.0-2.8.b4.fc11.x86_64

You can get the lightning RPM from the RPMFusion repo.


  that is exactly where I got it from, now I'm looking for provider.


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Re: Weird yum remove *.*86

2009-12-03 Thread Eric Springer
Thanks Sjoerd,

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Sjoerd Mullender  wrote:
>
> It matches.  See                    ^^

Ah, i see. I didn't realize it was searching version numbers. Thanks
for clearing that up

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Re: Weird yum remove *.*86

2009-12-03 Thread Sjoerd Mullender

On 2009-12-04 06:37, Eric Springer wrote:

Notice how it tries to remove the 64 bit usbutils. This does not
happen with 'yum remove *.i586' (it's identical except for that 1
package)

[r...@fedz ~]# yum remove *.*86



--->  Package usbutils.x86_64 0:0.86-2.fc12 set to be erased


It matches.  See^^

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Weird yum remove *.*86

2009-12-03 Thread Eric Springer
Notice how it tries to remove the 64 bit usbutils. This does not
happen with 'yum remove *.i586' (it's identical except for that 1
package)

[r...@fedz ~]# yum remove *.*86
Loaded plugins: presto
Setting up Remove Process
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package alsa-lib.i686 0:1.0.21-3.fc12 set to be erased
---> Package cyrus-sasl-lib.i686 0:2.1.23-4.fc12 set to be erased
---> Package db4.i686 0:4.7.25-13.fc12 set to be erased
---> Package dbus-libs.i686 1:1.2.16-8.fc12 set to be erased
---> Package expat.i686 0:2.0.1-7 set to be erased
---> Package flac.i686 0:1.2.1-6.fc12 set to be erased
---> Package freetype.i686 0:2.3.9-6.fc12 set to be erased
---> Package glibc.i686 0:2.11-2 set to be erased
---> Package jack-audio-connection-kit.i686 0:0.118.0-1.fc12 set to be erased
---> Package keyutils-libs.i686 0:1.2-6.fc12 set to be erased
---> Package krb5-libs.i686 0:1.7-8.fc12 set to be erased
---> Package lcms-libs.i686 0:1.18-3.fc12 set to be erased
---> Package libICE.i686 0:1.0.6-1.fc12 set to be erased
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---> Package wine-ldap.i686 0:1.1.32-1.fc12 set to be erased
---> Package wine-twain.i686 0:1.1.32-1.fc12 set to be erased
---> Package zlib.i686 0:1.2.3-23.fc12 set to be erased
--> Finished Dependency Resolution

Dependencies Resolved

===
 Package  Arch  Version
RepositorySize
===
Removing:
 alsa-lib i686  1.0.21-3.fc12
installed1.1 M
 cyrus-sasl-lib   i686  2.1.23-4.fc12
installed336 k
 db4  i686  4.7.25-13.fc12
installed1.5 M
 dbus-libsi686  1:1.2.16-8.fc12
installed278 k
 expati686  2.0.1-7
installed188 k
 flac i686  1.2.1-6.fc12
installed716 k
 freetype i686  2.3.9-6.fc12
installed787 k
 glibci686  2.11-2
installed 1

Re: Flash for my new F12/64 install

2009-12-03 Thread Jatin K

On 12/04/2009 10:13 AM, Chris wrote:

Greetings again,

Would appreciate some advice on installing Flash for Firefox.

TIA

   
just download the flash plugin from the following[1] link (please note 
that link is valid only for 1 week )



[1] http://senduit.com/8913b8

uncompress the archive  and copy libflashplayer.so file to 
~/.mozilla/plugins



Restart the firefox

conform by checking about:plugin in firefox  or just visit www.youtube.com

Note:- Plugin is only for x86_64 OS


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Re: X Configuration help request

2009-12-03 Thread Tony Nelson
On 09-12-03 23:34:06, john wendel wrote:
> I'm trying to configure X to do the following:
> 
> [1] Computer A, the target of the configuration, has a display but no 
> keyboard or mouse.
> 
> [2] Computer B has a working F11 installation, with X, a keyboard, 
> and a mouse.
> 
> [3] Computers A and B are on the same local network.
> 
> Can I configure A so that I can control X on A with the keyboard and 
> mouse of B? I assume that I need some additional software, besides X, 
> that will proxy the keyboard and mouse events from B to A.
> 
> Clues, please.

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Re: Flash for my new F12/64 install

2009-12-03 Thread Peter Reed
> Greetings again,
> 
> Would appreciate some advice on installing Flash for Firefox.
> 
> TIA
> 
Get the 64bit flash plugin here (1)
In the console change to the directory you downloaded the file to.
Untar the file tar xvf yourflashfile.tar.gz
sudo mv yourflashfile.so /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins or
su -c "mv yourflashfile.so /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins"
restart firefox and everything should be fine.

(1)http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_64bit.html

Have fun.
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Re: X Configuration help request

2009-12-03 Thread Jatin K

On 12/04/2009 10:04 AM, john wendel wrote:

I'm trying to configure X to do the following:

[1] Computer A, the target of the configuration, has a display but no 
keyboard or mouse.


[2] Computer B has a working F11 installation, with X, a keyboard, and 
a mouse.


[3] Computers A and B are on the same local network.

Can I configure A so that I can control X on A with the keyboard and 
mouse of B? I assume that I need some additional software, besides X, 
that will proxy the keyboard and mouse events from B to A.


Clues, please.

Thanks,

John


Dear John,

if your A machine is acting like server ( may be proxy or web-server or 
any other server ) and you do not want to use it as a normal desktop 
for  documentation/regular home/office  work, then webmin is the good 
solution. Please visit following[1] site for more details


[1] http://www.webmin.com/


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Re: [Off Topic] Announcing the Release of the World's First 64-bit Build of Google's Chromium OS with Xen Virtualization Support

2009-12-03 Thread Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
Featured on Xen's community blog:

http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2009/12/03/announcing-the-release-of-the-worlds-first-64-bit-build-of-googles-chromium-os-with-xen-virtualization-support/



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Flash for my new F12/64 install

2009-12-03 Thread Chris
Greetings again,

Would appreciate some advice on installing Flash for Firefox.

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X Configuration help request

2009-12-03 Thread john wendel

I'm trying to configure X to do the following:

[1] Computer A, the target of the configuration, has a display but no 
keyboard or mouse.


[2] Computer B has a working F11 installation, with X, a keyboard, and a 
mouse.


[3] Computers A and B are on the same local network.

Can I configure A so that I can control X on A with the keyboard and 
mouse of B? I assume that I need some additional software, besides X, 
that will proxy the keyboard and mouse events from B to A.


Clues, please.

Thanks,

John

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Re: F12 Wireless Network intermittently Dropped: AR9285 card / ath9k module

2009-12-03 Thread Reuben Budiardja
On Thursday 03 December 2009 21:30:04 Lonni J Friedman wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Richard Shaw  wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Lonni J Friedman  
wrote:
> > I only have subjective results thus far but the bleeding wireless
> > drivers did SEEM to make an improvement. Before I could not get a
> > complete backup of /home from my BackupPC server over wireless. After
> > installing the latest drivers I still got one disassociation while
> > scp'ing a 25MB file but the backup finally was successful.
> 
> FWIW, the problem has never been that severe for me.  Every time the
> connection has died (disassociated) for me, its either been when the
> system has been sitting idle (such as overnight), 

hmm... for me it's the other way around. The problem is so severe at my work 
place wireless is practically non usable. I couldn't even complete a command 
in a command line over SSH on a remote server before connection dropped, SSH 
console freeze, get connection back, keep going type, and drop again. This 
happens basically all day today. At one point I even try sitting right under 
an access point. No noticeable change.

Curiously, as I noted in another email, it seems to works fine with my wireless 
connection at home. I don't know how to account for these differences.

RDB 

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Re: F12 Lost Gnome Panels

2009-12-03 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 09:33:21PM +, Beartooth wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 15:43:47 -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>   []
> >> On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 11:52:26 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote:
>   []
> >> > Try restarting gnome-panel (assuming it's Gnome you're using)
> >> 
> >>That's what I want all right -- and I am running Gnome. But how
> >> do I do it? I can't even seem to get a CLI. Ssh into it from another
> >> machine?
> > 
> > Can you hit Ctrl+Alt+F2 (or F3, F4...) to get a terminal?  
> 
>   I'd've sworn that was one of the things I had tried; but, be that 
> as it may, I did get a prompt this time.
> 
> > If so, you
> > can log in there, locally, to issue commands.  
> 
>   I did that, as user. The only command I could think of at first 
> was "gnome-panel." That got me lots of options for help, but nothing I 
> could understand. I tried several likely-sounding ones anyway, but still 
> got nowhere.

Right, gnome-panel won't run unless you're in a gnome-session (i.e. in
the GUI).

> > Some may not be as
> > effective without the X environment variables set -- but at worst, if
> > you had no work pending, you could kill the gnome-session and see if
> > your panels return.  (That's kind of an atomic bomb approach.)
> 
>   H I thought to try "startx" first. That told me X was 
> running, and what seemed to be the lock to remove. (There was a short 
> illegible line in there.)

Right, although you could start a second one with:

  startx -- :1

>   I tried "rm /tmp/.X0-lock255.255.0" and it seemed to think the 
> command should end with <...>lock ; I tried that; it wouldn't let me; I 
> did "su - "  and tried again.

Not the best idea while X is actually running.

>   That seemed to succeed, but "startx" got me a whole bunch of 
> stuff I couldn't make head nor tail of.
> 
>   So I tried the big hammer -- Ctrl-Alt-BS -- though I'm sure I had 
> before. It did nothing, afaict.

You do need to use this key in the GUI itself for it to work, and the
kill behavior has to be enabled.  The default is that this old killer
key combo is turned off.  (The setting is in the System > Preferences
> Keyboard tool).

>   So I tried "ps ax|grep X" -- and got a couple of numbers, one 
> obviously the command I had just given. I told it to kill the other. That 
> put me back (for the umpteenth time today) to a login screen.
>
>   Logging in just put me back into my desert desktop. There are no 
> hide buttons nor anything else to show it ever heard of a panel -- and, 
> as I thought, Ctrl-Alt-Fx (for x = 2 - 7) does nothing afaict.

Can you hit Alt-F2 to run a command?  If so, you can try running
'gnome-terminal' to see if you can get a command line in the GUI.

>   I should perhaps mention that this machine (my #1) got royally, 
> unbootably bollixed a few days ago, and ended up with a fresh install of 
> F12 -- into which I began trying to scp /home/btth from #2 -- and messed 
> that up so that there seem to be several partial copies scattered all 
> over it in spots, to the point that the hard drive thinks it's 
> effectively full  At any rate, "df -h" shows it far fuller than it 
> ought to be.

Uh, yup -- it's possible that your GConf registry may be messed up
then.  (I thought not in another post but hadn't read this through
yet, thanks for all the detail.)  It's stored under ~/.gconf -- maybe
you *should* move that to a backup, kill the session and try logging
in again.

>   LATER : after another reboot, leaning hard and long on Ctrl-Alt-
> F2 did get me another prompt; I logged in as root -- and am wondering 
> what to try next 

You don't need to be root to fix this.  Log in as your normal user
unless something is wrong with the actual system itself.  So far it
looks like the problem is with your normal user.

To test that hypothesis, you could log in as root, add a new user:

# useradd 
# passwd # enter new password twice
# logout

Then login the GUI as the new user.  If everything works fine, chances
are it's a user-related problem.  Using root to fix things is not
usually required for that, and you can do other damage or induce weird
permission-related problems if you're not careful.

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Re: F12 Lost Gnome Panels

2009-12-03 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 06:36:52PM -0500, William Witt wrote:
> On 12/03/2009 04:33 PM, Beartooth wrote:
> > I should perhaps mention that this machine (my #1) got royally,
> >unbootably bollixed a few days ago, and ended up with a fresh install of
> >F12 -- into which I began trying to scp /home/btth from #2 -- and messed
> >that up so that there seem to be several partial copies scattered all
> >over it in spots, to the point that the hard drive thinks it's
> >effectively full  At any rate, "df -h" shows it far fuller than it
> >ought to be.
> 
> This is probably the problem. A partial copy or corrupted .gconf
> directory.  So try this:
> 
> -After a reboot at the login screen press Crtl+Alt F2
> -Log in text mode with your user acct
> -issue the folloing commands
> mv .gconf bak.gconf
> mv .gconfd bak.gconfd
> mv .gnome2 bak.gnome2
> mv .gnome2_private bak.gnome2_private
> 
> -This is the tactical nuke of gnome config problems.  This will
> force gnome to recreate your gnome configuration on next login
> -Press Crtl-Alt F1 and you should be back at the GUI login screen,
> so log in again and see if you have panels.  All of your old config
> settings are stored in th bak. directories so you can selectively
> copy them over if you have something (like f-spot) that is not easy
> to just reconfigure.
> 
> Hopefully this helps

Yikes, that's a LOT of work for this one problem, and a lot of
customization to comb through later.  *At most* you would want to
backup .gconf/apps/panel -- not the whole kit 'n' kaboodle.  Still not
sure that's necessary though.

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Re: FC10 and RedHat NTFS file format compatibility

2009-12-03 Thread Tony Nelson
On 09-12-03 18:10:51, Daniel J Celta wrote:
> Kevin,
> 
> When I do
> 
> yum list \*ntfs\*
> 
> I get a error: No matching Packages to list
> 
> Also if i do
> 
> yum search ntfs
> 
> I get a similar error
> 
> Al the above I did under Red Hat 5.4

Add the EPEL repo.  (Google "epel".)

> Have not tried FC10 yet
 ...

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Re: F12 Wireless Network intermittently Dropped: AR9285 card / ath9k module

2009-12-03 Thread Lonni J Friedman
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Richard Shaw  wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Lonni J Friedman  wrote:
>> No, I didn't try the bleeding edge kernel because that seems like a
>> random shot in the dark.  I've found that this problem occurs
>> completely at random.  Sometimes multiple times/hour, and once I went
>> 8 days without any issues.  With those odds, I don't see how I could
>> ever confidently claim that the problem was fixed.  If someone wanted
>> to give me some means of generating useful debug output that would
>> help to isolate the problem, I'd be willing to try that, but just
>> blindly trying a newer kernel seems like a great way to waste my time.
>
> I have a similar problem on my wife's Acer laptop which uses the ath9k
> driver. I've done two things. One, created an account on the kernel
> bugzilla so I can hopefully help get the problem fixed (as well as
> subscribe to the bugs so I get notified when there are updates). And
> two, downloaded/compiled/installed the latest compat-wireless[1] which
> lets you use the latest wireless drivers with your existing kernel.
>
> I only have subjective results thus far but the bleeding wireless
> drivers did SEEM to make an improvement. Before I could not get a
> complete backup of /home from my BackupPC server over wireless. After
> installing the latest drivers I still got one disassociation while
> scp'ing a 25MB file but the backup finally was successful.

FWIW, the problem has never been that severe for me.  Every time the
connection has died (disassociated) for me, its either been when the
system has been sitting idle (such as overnight), or immediately when
I attempt to transmit alot of data (streaming media).  Usually once
its working ok, it remains ok until it sits idle for some extended
period of time.

If I knew that I could trigger the problem simply by transmitting a
few hundred MB of data, then I'd gladly give the latest
compat-wireless a try.


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Re: F12 Wireless Network intermittently Dropped: AR9285 card / ath9k module

2009-12-03 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Lonni J Friedman  wrote:
> No, I didn't try the bleeding edge kernel because that seems like a
> random shot in the dark.  I've found that this problem occurs
> completely at random.  Sometimes multiple times/hour, and once I went
> 8 days without any issues.  With those odds, I don't see how I could
> ever confidently claim that the problem was fixed.  If someone wanted
> to give me some means of generating useful debug output that would
> help to isolate the problem, I'd be willing to try that, but just
> blindly trying a newer kernel seems like a great way to waste my time.

I have a similar problem on my wife's Acer laptop which uses the ath9k
driver. I've done two things. One, created an account on the kernel
bugzilla so I can hopefully help get the problem fixed (as well as
subscribe to the bugs so I get notified when there are updates). And
two, downloaded/compiled/installed the latest compat-wireless[1] which
lets you use the latest wireless drivers with your existing kernel.

I only have subjective results thus far but the bleeding wireless
drivers did SEEM to make an improvement. Before I could not get a
complete backup of /home from my BackupPC server over wireless. After
installing the latest drivers I still got one disassociation while
scp'ing a 25MB file but the backup finally was successful.

Richard

[1] http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download

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Re: FC10 and RedHat NTFS file format compatibility

2009-12-03 Thread Todd Denniston

Daniel J Celta wrote, On 3 Dec 2009 17:45:33 -0600:
Ok I got 
it...  My appologies



Sent from my iPhone
Daniel J Celta



Is it possible to convince those phones to bottom post?



On Dec 3, 2009, at 5:32 PM, "Kevin J. Cummings" 
 wrote:



On 12/03/2009 06:29 PM, Daniel J Celta wrote:

David,
Maybe the problem is Red Hat  Not sure why !??
I will try FC10 tonight at home.

The error I am getting is when trying under Red Hat enterprise 5.4

Any idea why?


This is a fedora email list, not RHEL.  The answer I gave was for F10.
The RPMs you want exist in updates and fedora repos


However there are some Fedora folks who like RHEL too:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL

#$ yum info ntfs\*|grep Repo
Repo   : epel
Repo   : epel
Repo   : epel

However, I make no guarantees on how well ntfsprogs works.
good luck.
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Re: Troubleshout hibernate

2009-12-03 Thread Nataraj

L wrote:

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Nataraj  wrote:
  

On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 22:23 +0100, Eric Tanguy wrote:


I try to hibernate my fedora 12 with nvidia driver from rpmfusion. The
hibernate stage works fine. The problem is on resume. The system go back
normally and the screen switch off and that's all. It seems the problem
is well known but i can't find a solution or a troubleshout guide to
find a solution. Someone could help me ?
Thanks
Eric

  

I would try pm-hibernate with the --quirk-dpms-on option first, and if
that doesn't work, add the --quirk-s3-bios option.  See the man page for
more details.  This also applies to pm-suspend.

/usr/sbin/pm-hibernate --quirk-dpms-on --quirk-s3-bios



where to set this in gnome appliet (power management?) for suspend/hibernate?
  


I'm not exactly sure, I think there may be a way to do this through 
gnome.  Also look at /usr/lib/pm-utils directory, maybe 
/usr/lib/pm-utils/pm-functions and /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/99video.  
Let us know if you figure it out.


Nataraj
  

Nataraj


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Re: FC10 and RedHat NTFS file format compatibility

2009-12-03 Thread David Burns
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Kevin J. Cummings
 wrote:
>I will try FC10 tonight at home

Why FC10, FC12 is out. FC10 will soon be obsolete.

> Maybe the problem is Red Hat???

Could be, or as I already suggested, your yum could be configured
differently than mine, or just not working. I am also able to get this
package on a centos box, which is based on redhat. And redhat is based
on fedora.

Dave


$ cat /etc/redhat-release
CentOS release 5.3 (Final)


$ yum search ntfs
Loaded plugins: dellsysidplugin2, fastestmirror, priorities, security
2 packages excluded due to repository priority protections
 Matched: ntfs =
libguestfs.i386 : Access and modify virtual machine disk images
libguestfs.x86_64 : Access and modify virtual machine disk images
chntpw.x86_64 : Offline NT password and registry editor
dkms-ntfs.noarch : Driver for reading and writing on NTFS formatted volumes
findntfs.x86_64 : Find NTFS partitions
fuse-ntfs-3g.x86_64 : Linux NTFS userspace driver
fuse-ntfs-3g-devel.x86_64 : Header files, libraries and development
  : documentation for fuse-ntfs-3g.
gnome-vfs2-ntfs.x86_64 : NTFS GNOME virtual filesystem module
ntfsprogs.x86_64 : NTFS filesystem libraries and utilities
ntfsprogs.i386 : NTFS filesystem libraries and utilities
ntfsprogs-devel.x86_64 : Header files, libraries and development documentation
   : for ntfsprogs
ntfsprogs-devel.i386 : Headers and libraries for libntfs
ntfsprogs-gnomevfs.i386 : NTFS GNOME virtual filesystem module
ntfsprogs-gnomevfs.x86_64 : NTFS GNOME virtual filesystem module
partimage.x86_64 : partition imaging utility, much like Ghost
scalpel.x86_64 : Frugal, high-performance file carver
testdisk.x86_64 : Tool to check and undelete partition, PhotoRec recovers lost
: files
testdisk-doc.x86_64 : TestDisk & PhotoRec documentation

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Re: F12 Wireless Network intermittently Dropped: AR9285 card / ath9k module

2009-12-03 Thread Lonni J Friedman
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Reuben Budiardja
 wrote:
> On Thursday 03 December 2009 19:04:54 Lonni J Friedman wrote:
>> This sounds like a known ath9k bug that is due to power management
>> problems.  See
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=538792
>>
> Hi,
> I just read through
> http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13807 and
> http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14267
> and curious what result you have with your test. It seems that there are few
> "suggestion":
> 1. That later bug report seems to just turn off the power management like you
> said, but you didn't find that fix anything.
> 2. Try out the latest kernel from wireless-testing. Did you ever have a chance
> to do this ? I am curious if you were successful, and would care to elaborate
> some, or even if you have "prescription" on how to compile the kernel.

No, I didn't try the bleeding edge kernel because that seems like a
random shot in the dark.  I've found that this problem occurs
completely at random.  Sometimes multiple times/hour, and once I went
8 days without any issues.  With those odds, I don't see how I could
ever confidently claim that the problem was fixed.  If someone wanted
to give me some means of generating useful debug output that would
help to isolate the problem, I'd be willing to try that, but just
blindly trying a newer kernel seems like a great way to waste my time.

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Re: F12 Wireless Network intermittently Dropped: AR9285 card / ath9k module

2009-12-03 Thread Reuben Budiardja
On Thursday 03 December 2009 18:53:52 Reuben Budiardja wrote:
> Hello,
 
> The problem is that I keep getting my network dropped intermittently. Every
> few tens of second or order of minutes my network would get dropped, and
>  then get connected again. It's enough that I can't work with it, since I
>  work by doing programming on remote machine via SSH.

Curiously I just test this with my router at home an transfer a big file ( > 
6GB) for almost 1 hour without any dropped connection. But the router sits 
right beside my laptop. So I don't know what that says about this problem.

RDB

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Re: F12 Wireless Network intermittently Dropped: AR9285 card / ath9k module

2009-12-03 Thread Reuben Budiardja
On Thursday 03 December 2009 19:04:54 Lonni J Friedman wrote:
> This sounds like a known ath9k bug that is due to power management
> problems.  See
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=538792
> 
Hi, 
I just read through 
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13807 and
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14267
and curious what result you have with your test. It seems that there are few 
"suggestion":
1. That later bug report seems to just turn off the power management like you 
said, but you didn't find that fix anything.
2. Try out the latest kernel from wireless-testing. Did you ever have a chance 
to do this ? I am curious if you were successful, and would care to elaborate 
some, or even if you have "prescription" on how to compile the kernel.

Thanks for your time.
RDB

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Re: provider for google calendar

2009-12-03 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 12/03/2009 07:30 PM, suvayu ali wrote:
> 2009/12/3 oleksandr korneta :
>> so I'm  on Fedora 12, 64bit. It was an unpleasant surprise to find out that
>> that some extensions for thunderbird from mozilla's website cannot be
>> installed because of 64bit architecture (wtf? is this opensource or what?).
>> Yes I'm talking about lightning calendar extension. Anyway, turns out some
>> good people did package it and put in repository. But it is useless for me
>> without the Provider  for google calendar. And this one is not packaged and
>> cannot be instaled from mozilla's website. So, does anybody have similar
>> problem/has a solution? Maybe someone can point me to some "how to recompile
>> Provider for google calendar" blog article?
>>
> 
> I use both lightning and google calendars on Fedora 11 x86_64. Please
> check before you curse. Right now I'm at work, I 'll post back with
> the packages you need to install when I am home. Maybe someone will
> post that information before I return from work.
> 
> GL

I got my last F11 copy (that I've needed) from:

> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-comm-1.9.1/linux-xpi/gdata-provider.xpi

and that was last August!

F11 is currently running thunderbird-3.0-2.8.b4.fc11.x86_64

You can get the lightning RPM from the RPMFusion repo.

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Re: F12 Wireless Network intermittently Dropped: AR9285 card / ath9k module

2009-12-03 Thread Reuben Budiardja
On Thursday 03 December 2009 19:59:57 jaivuk wrote:
> I use F12 with latest F11 kernel - this is only way how can I use my
>  freshly installed F12 and have my WIFI AP (hostapd) working.
> 
> If you upgraded to F12 from F11 via yum, you may still have some F11 kernel
> installed, so during boot, just press ESC to get to grub menu and select
>  F11 kernel.

Lonni & Jaivuk,
Thank you for the pointers (and Lonni for list of Bug IDs on the other 
thread). It seems that I have few things to try:
1. Turn off power management,
2. Try either F11 or F11 kernel
As this is a freshly installed laptop that I just start using, I am still able 
to play with it. I am going to try either or both and see if any works better 
for me. I'll report back later for posterity.

Thanks again
RDB

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Fedora 12 LXDE Spin available for download

2009-12-03 Thread Christoph Wickert
Better late than never: The Fedora 12 LXDE Spin has arrived!

Sorry it took so long. While the actual problems [1] were solved within
2 days, it took a little longer to create the new ISO images. FESCo, the
Fedora Steering Committee, had to decide how to proceed with the new
images. The decision was scheduled for last weeks FESCo meeting, but due
to Thanksgiving and the holidays the meeting was canceled. Instead, we
voted in Trac [2], but as you all now a ticket system is not as fast as
a real time IRC meeting.

After that Jesse composed the new images and we needed to test them to
make sure we hit any bugs again. Testing was positive and now we have
the new images available for download at

http://spins.fedoraproject.org/lxde/

Grab them while they are still hot!

I apologize once again for the delay and would like to thank everybody
for his patience. A big thanks goes out to Jesse for supporting me.

I now declare this bazar opened!

Regards,
Christoph

[1]
http://www.christoph-wickert.de/blog/2009/11/18/fedora-12-lxde-spin-images-are-broken/
[2] https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/280



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Re: F12 Wireless Network intermittently Dropped: AR9285 card / ath9k module

2009-12-03 Thread jaivuk
I use F12 with latest F11 kernel - this is only way how can I use my freshly
installed F12 and have my WIFI AP (hostapd) working.

If you upgraded to F12 from F11 via yum, you may still have some F11 kernel
installed, so during boot, just press ESC to get to grub menu and select F11
kernel.
You may then edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to select your default kernel. (You
may also upate /etc/yum.conf and change installonly_limit=3 to higher number
so more
than just 3 kernels are retained)

If you didn't have F11 it is a bit tricky to install F11 kernel into F12, I
did it in this way:
- I downloaded below files to empty folder from Fedora mirror:

#ls -l
-rw-rw-r--. 1 jaiv jaiv   691959 2009-11-18 17:28
kernel-firmware-2.6.30.9-99.fc11.noarch.rpm
-rw-rw-r--. 1 jaiv jaiv   763844 2009-11-18 17:34
kernel-headers-2.6.30.9-99.fc11.i586.rpm
-rw-rw-r--. 1 jaiv jaiv 22623392 2009-11-18 17:32
kernel-PAE-2.6.30.9-99.fc11.i686.rpm
-rw-rw-r--. 1 jaiv jaiv  6599589 2009-11-18 17:24
kernel-PAE-devel-2.6.30.9-99.fc11.i686.rpm
-rw-rw-r--. 1 jaiv jaiv92966 2009-09-02 16:07
mkinitrd-6.0.87-4.fc11.i586.rpm

(If you do not want to compile modules you may possibly skip -devel)

Then I installed them by using command:

#rpm -ivh * --nodeps --force

You are doing this at your own risk.

Good luck!

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 11:53 PM, Reuben Budiardja <
techl...@pathfinder.phys.utk.edu> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have an ASUS N51 series with Atheros AR9285 card that I just put F12 on.
> Today I brought the notebook on campus that basically has open wifi (we had
> to
> register our Mac address with our ID to be on the network, but otherwise
> it's
> open, no WEP, WPA or anything).
>
> The problem is that I keep getting my network dropped intermittently. Every
> few tens of second or order of minutes my network would get dropped, and
> then
> get connected again. It's enough that I can't work with it, since I work by
> doing programming on remote machine via SSH.
>
> During all this time, Network manager shows reasonable wireless strength,
> that
> fluctuates between 2 bars to full bars.
>
> Here's what /sbin/lspci shows as my wireless card:
> Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network
> Adapter
>
> And looking at the output /sbin/lsmod, I'm guessing it's using "ath9k"
> module.
>
> I've search the web and archive and found few reports here and there about
> something similar, but I couldn't find anything definite, or any
> workaround.
>
> Does anyone have any idea that can help me ? Any workaround, even with
> different / older version of Fedora ?
>
> Thank you for any respond.
> RDB
>
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Re: How to configure Thunderbird to open pdf attachments with Okular?

2009-12-03 Thread Paul Smith
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Henrique Koesjan  wrote:
> sorry, mimeTypes.rdf not mimeType.rdf
>
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Henrique Koesjan  wrote:
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> I don't know if it is the best way to do that, but you can:
>> close thunderbird
>> go to:
>> ~/.thunderbird/
>> there is a directory like ??.default or other name (your profile folder).
>> There is a file called mimeType.rdf
>>
>> make a backup of it: cp mimeType.rdf mimeType.rdf.backup
>> gedit mimeType.rdf
>>
>> look for some lines like that:
>>  > RDF:about="urn:mimetype:externalApplication:application/pdf"
>>                   NC:prettyName=""
>>                   NC:path="" />
>>
>> change to:
>>  > RDF:about="urn:mimetype:externalApplication:application/pdf"
>>                   NC:prettyName="okular"
>>                   NC:path="/usr/bin/okular" />
>>
>> save and close gedit, and exit terminal.
>>
>> open thunderbird, and next time you will be prompted to open, you can
>> choose okular and if you want memorize this decision.
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Paul Smith  wrote:
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> I would like to configure Thunderbird to open pdf attachments with
>>> Okular. However, I cannot find any entry for the pdf type in the tab
>>> Attachments of the Preferences window. Any ideas?

Thanks, Henrique and Steven. I have just deleted  my mimeTypes.rdf,
and apparently everything seems to be working: Okular is the default
Thunderbird application to open pdf attachments.

Paul

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Re: provider for google calendar

2009-12-03 Thread suvayu ali
2009/12/3 oleksandr korneta :
> so I'm  on Fedora 12, 64bit. It was an unpleasant surprise to find out that
> that some extensions for thunderbird from mozilla's website cannot be
> installed because of 64bit architecture (wtf? is this opensource or what?).
> Yes I'm talking about lightning calendar extension. Anyway, turns out some
> good people did package it and put in repository. But it is useless for me
> without the Provider  for google calendar. And this one is not packaged and
> cannot be instaled from mozilla's website. So, does anybody have similar
> problem/has a solution? Maybe someone can point me to some "how to recompile
> Provider for google calendar" blog article?
>

I use both lightning and google calendars on Fedora 11 x86_64. Please
check before you curse. Right now I'm at work, I 'll post back with
the packages you need to install when I am home. Maybe someone will
post that information before I return from work.

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provider for google calendar

2009-12-03 Thread oleksandr korneta
so I'm  on Fedora 12, 64bit. It was an unpleasant surprise to find out 
that that some extensions for thunderbird from mozilla's website cannot 
be installed because of 64bit architecture (wtf? is this opensource or 
what?). Yes I'm talking about lightning calendar extension. Anyway, 
turns out some good people did package it and put in repository. But it 
is useless for me without the Provider  for google calendar. And this 
one is not packaged and cannot be instaled from mozilla's website. So, 
does anybody have similar problem/has a solution? Maybe someone can 
point me to some "how to recompile Provider for google calendar" blog 
article?


thank you


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Re: F12 Wireless Network intermittently Dropped: AR9285 card / ath9k module

2009-12-03 Thread Lonni J Friedman
This sounds like a known ath9k bug that is due to power management
problems.  See
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=538792


On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Reuben Budiardja
 wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have an ASUS N51 series with Atheros AR9285 card that I just put F12 on.
> Today I brought the notebook on campus that basically has open wifi (we had to
> register our Mac address with our ID to be on the network, but otherwise it's
> open, no WEP, WPA or anything).
>
> The problem is that I keep getting my network dropped intermittently. Every
> few tens of second or order of minutes my network would get dropped, and then
> get connected again. It's enough that I can't work with it, since I work by
> doing programming on remote machine via SSH.
>
> During all this time, Network manager shows reasonable wireless strength, that
> fluctuates between 2 bars to full bars.
>
> Here's what /sbin/lspci shows as my wireless card:
> Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network
> Adapter
>
> And looking at the output /sbin/lsmod, I'm guessing it's using "ath9k" module.
>
> I've search the web and archive and found few reports here and there about
> something similar, but I couldn't find anything definite, or any workaround.
>
> Does anyone have any idea that can help me ? Any workaround, even with
> different / older version of Fedora ?
>
> Thank you for any respond.
> RDB
>
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Re: ath5k access point in Fedora 12

2009-12-03 Thread Lonni J Friedman
2009/12/3 Reuben Budiardja :
> On Thursday 03 December 2009 18:00:33 jaivuk wrote:
>> To be honest I was so upset with permanent problems and unstability of
>>  ath5k driver in AP mode that I purchased ath9k card...
>> It is much more stable but currently there is a bug in F12 kernel, so I
>>  have to use F11 kernel.
>
> Hello,
> Which bug are you referring to ? I am currently having a problem with Atheros
> AR9285 that uses ath9k module, and wondering if this is related. Could you
> illuminate me or point me to bug report ?
> My problem is that in some network my connection keep getting intermittently
> dropped. (You could refer to my email that I just sent to the list also for my
> problem description).
> Does F11 work better for this card ?

Yes, that's the infamous power management bug.  There are a few of
them floating around:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=532465
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520535
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=541756
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=538792

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Re: ath5k access point in Fedora 12

2009-12-03 Thread Reuben Budiardja
On Thursday 03 December 2009 18:00:33 jaivuk wrote:
> To be honest I was so upset with permanent problems and unstability of
>  ath5k driver in AP mode that I purchased ath9k card...
> It is much more stable but currently there is a bug in F12 kernel, so I
>  have to use F11 kernel.

Hello, 
Which bug are you referring to ? I am currently having a problem with Atheros 
AR9285 that uses ath9k module, and wondering if this is related. Could you 
illuminate me or point me to bug report ? 
My problem is that in some network my connection keep getting intermittently 
dropped. (You could refer to my email that I just sent to the list also for my 
problem description).
Does F11 work better for this card ?

Thank you for your help.
RDB

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F12 Wireless Network intermittently Dropped: AR9285 card / ath9k module

2009-12-03 Thread Reuben Budiardja
Hello,

I have an ASUS N51 series with Atheros AR9285 card that I just put F12 on. 
Today I brought the notebook on campus that basically has open wifi (we had to 
register our Mac address with our ID to be on the network, but otherwise it's 
open, no WEP, WPA or anything).

The problem is that I keep getting my network dropped intermittently. Every 
few tens of second or order of minutes my network would get dropped, and then 
get connected again. It's enough that I can't work with it, since I work by 
doing programming on remote machine via SSH. 

During all this time, Network manager shows reasonable wireless strength, that 
fluctuates between 2 bars to full bars.

Here's what /sbin/lspci shows as my wireless card:
Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network 
Adapter

And looking at the output /sbin/lsmod, I'm guessing it's using "ath9k" module.

I've search the web and archive and found few reports here and there about 
something similar, but I couldn't find anything definite, or any workaround.

Does anyone have any idea that can help me ? Any workaround, even with 
different / older version of Fedora ?

Thank you for any respond.
RDB

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Re: FC10 and RedHat NTFS file format compatibility

2009-12-03 Thread Daniel J Celta

Ok I got it...  My appologies


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On Dec 3, 2009, at 5:32 PM, "Kevin J. Cummings" > wrote:



On 12/03/2009 06:29 PM, Daniel J Celta wrote:

David,
Maybe the problem is Red Hat  Not sure why !??
I will try FC10 tonight at home.

The error I am getting is when trying under Red Hat enterprise 5.4

Any idea why?


This is a fedora email list, not RHEL.  The answer I gave was for F10.
The RPMs you want exist in updates and fedora repos


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Re: F12 Lost Gnome Panels

2009-12-03 Thread William Witt

On 12/03/2009 04:33 PM, Beartooth wrote:

I should perhaps mention that this machine (my #1) got royally,
unbootably bollixed a few days ago, and ended up with a fresh install of
F12 -- into which I began trying to scp /home/btth from #2 -- and messed
that up so that there seem to be several partial copies scattered all
over it in spots, to the point that the hard drive thinks it's
effectively full  At any rate, "df -h" shows it far fuller than it
ought to be.


This is probably the problem. A partial copy or corrupted .gconf 
directory.  So try this:


-After a reboot at the login screen press Crtl+Alt F2
-Log in text mode with your user acct
-issue the folloing commands
mv .gconf bak.gconf
mv .gconfd bak.gconfd
mv .gnome2 bak.gnome2
mv .gnome2_private bak.gnome2_private

-This is the tactical nuke of gnome config problems.  This will force 
gnome to recreate your gnome configuration on next login
-Press Crtl-Alt F1 and you should be back at the GUI login screen, so 
log in again and see if you have panels.  All of your old config 
settings are stored in th bak. directories so you can selectively copy 
them over if you have something (like f-spot) that is not easy to just 
reconfigure.


Hopefully this helps

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Re: FC10 and RedHat NTFS file format compatibility

2009-12-03 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 12/03/2009 06:29 PM, Daniel J Celta wrote:
> David,
> Maybe the problem is Red Hat  Not sure why !??
> I will try FC10 tonight at home.
> 
> The error I am getting is when trying under Red Hat enterprise 5.4
> 
> Any idea why?

This is a fedora email list, not RHEL.  The answer I gave was for F10.
The RPMs you want exist in updates and fedora repos

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Re: Terminator (Gnome)

2009-12-03 Thread Chris
On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 18:11:17 +0100
Michael Schwendt  wrote:

> On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:58:49 -0600, Chris wrote:
> 
> > Greetings,
> > 
> > I love the above mentioned app - and in older versions I used to
> > use, it never displayed a pop-up when ya close it.
> > 
> > It just simply displays a black rectangle in the upper right hand
> > corner of your screen with the unforgettable blurb, "I'll be back".
> 
> That's a GNOME desktop notification. In this case printed by
> /usr/bin/terminator via pynotify -> notification-daemon.
> 
> Run   notify-send "I'll be back"   to produce a similar message.
> 
> > Anyways, without recompiling from source, has anyone found a way to
> > turn this off? I have not seen it mentioned in the Terminator man
> > page nor is it in the terminator_config man page.
> >
> > Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Terminator is written in Python. No need to recompile. You could
> simply modify /usr/bin/terminator where you'll find the message at
> the bottom.
> 

Outstanding! Once again, thanks everyone!

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Re: ath5k access point in Fedora 12

2009-12-03 Thread Lonni J Friedman
Are you referring to the power mgmt bug in ath9k ?  If so, yes, that bug sucks.

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 3:00 PM, jaivuk  wrote:
> To be honest I was so upset with permanent problems and unstability of ath5k
> driver in AP mode that I purchased ath9k card...
> It is much more stable but currently there is a bug in F12 kernel, so I have
> to use F11 kernel.
>
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 5:01 PM, James Allsopp 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> has anyone had any joy getting an atheros card working in Master mode in
>> Fedora 12. All the options in the networking and network-script directories
>> say Mode=Master but it won't start. The error on bringing wlan0 up is;
>> Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
>>     SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.
>>
>> Failing this, is there an easy way to install madwifi, as I had trouble
>> finding a repository with the atheros drivers in.
>>
>> People are also talking about compat-wireless, but a yum search reveals
>> nothing in the repositories. Also is there a way of finding out in fedora
>> what options were used to compile the kernel.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> James
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Re: FC10 and RedHat NTFS file format compatibility

2009-12-03 Thread Daniel J Celta

David,
Maybe the problem is Red Hat  Not sure why !??
I will try FC10 tonight at home.

The error I am getting is when trying under Red Hat enterprise 5.4

Any idea why?

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On Dec 3, 2009, at 5:23 PM, David Burns  wrote:

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Daniel J Celta   
wrote:

Also if i do
yum search ntfs
I get a similar error



Funny, I have no problem. Maybe I have an extra repo you lack?
best,
Dave


#cat /etc/fedora-release
Fedora release 10 (Cambridge)

# yum search ntfs
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit, security
adobe-linux-i386 |  951  
B 00:00
adobe-linux- 
i386  17/17
fedora   | 2.8  
kB 00:00
rpmfusion-free   | 2.7  
kB 00:00
rpmfusion-free-updates   | 2.8  
kB 00:00
rpmfusion-nonfree| 2.7  
kB 00:00
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates| 2.8  
kB 00:00
updates  | 3.4  
kB 00:00
updates/primary_db   | 6.0  
MB 00:05
 Matched: ntfs  
=

ntfs-3g.i386 : Linux NTFS userspace driver
ntfs-3g.x86_64 : Linux NTFS userspace driver
ntfs-3g-devel.i386 : Development files and libraries for ntfs-3g
ntfs-3g-devel.x86_64 : Development files and libraries for ntfs-3g
ntfs-config.noarch : A front-end to Enable/disable NTFS write support
ntfsprogs.i386 : NTFS filesystem libraries and utilities
ntfsprogs.x86_64 : NTFS filesystem libraries and utilities
ntfsprogs-devel.i386 : Headers and libraries for libntfs
ntfsprogs-devel.x86_64 : Headers and libraries for libntfs
ntfsprogs-gnomevfs.i386 : NTFS GNOME virtual filesystem module
ntfsprogs-gnomevfs.x86_64 : NTFS GNOME virtual filesystem module
partimage.x86_64 : Partition imaging utility, much like Ghost
sleuthkit.x86_64 : The Sleuth Kit (TSK)
testdisk.x86_64 : Tool to check and undelete partition
testdisk-doc.x86_64 : TestDisk & PhotoRec documentation

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Re: FC10 and RedHat NTFS file format compatibility

2009-12-03 Thread David Burns
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Daniel J Celta  wrote:
> Also if i do
> yum search ntfs
> I get a similar error


Funny, I have no problem. Maybe I have an extra repo you lack?
best,
Dave


#cat /etc/fedora-release
Fedora release 10 (Cambridge)

# yum search ntfs
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit, security
adobe-linux-i386 |  951 B 00:00
adobe-linux-i386  17/17
fedora   | 2.8 kB 00:00
rpmfusion-free   | 2.7 kB 00:00
rpmfusion-free-updates   | 2.8 kB 00:00
rpmfusion-nonfree| 2.7 kB 00:00
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates| 2.8 kB 00:00
updates  | 3.4 kB 00:00
updates/primary_db   | 6.0 MB 00:05
 Matched: ntfs =
ntfs-3g.i386 : Linux NTFS userspace driver
ntfs-3g.x86_64 : Linux NTFS userspace driver
ntfs-3g-devel.i386 : Development files and libraries for ntfs-3g
ntfs-3g-devel.x86_64 : Development files and libraries for ntfs-3g
ntfs-config.noarch : A front-end to Enable/disable NTFS write support
ntfsprogs.i386 : NTFS filesystem libraries and utilities
ntfsprogs.x86_64 : NTFS filesystem libraries and utilities
ntfsprogs-devel.i386 : Headers and libraries for libntfs
ntfsprogs-devel.x86_64 : Headers and libraries for libntfs
ntfsprogs-gnomevfs.i386 : NTFS GNOME virtual filesystem module
ntfsprogs-gnomevfs.x86_64 : NTFS GNOME virtual filesystem module
partimage.x86_64 : Partition imaging utility, much like Ghost
sleuthkit.x86_64 : The Sleuth Kit (TSK)
testdisk.x86_64 : Tool to check and undelete partition
testdisk-doc.x86_64 : TestDisk & PhotoRec documentation

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Re: FC10 and RedHat NTFS file format compatibility

2009-12-03 Thread Daniel J Celta

Kevin,

When I do

yum list \*ntfs\*

I get a error: No matching Packages to list

Also if i do

yum search ntfs

I get a similar error

Al the above I did under Red Hat 5.4
Have not tried FC10 yet

Am I doing something wrong

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On 12/03/2009 05:04 PM, Daniel J Celta wrote:
When trying to read a NTFS preformatted USB drive I am getting a  
message

not supported by the system.
This is under Red Hat 5.4 enterprise.

When reading about workarounds I gather tha fedora and RedHat do not
support the format but there is a way to update the kernel to be NTFS
compatible.


yum list \*ntfs\*


Can anyone offer some help on how to fix this problem for Redhat 5.4
and/or Fedora FC10 running under X86_64??


You'd be surprised


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Evolution hyperlinks fail in KDE

2009-12-03 Thread John A. Sullivan III
Hello, all. Over the last couple of years, our admiration for RedHat has
grown as we've seen them really walk the walk of Open Source. We are
thus experimenting with replacing our Ubuntu desktops with Fedora
although the end of life schedule still concerns us a bit.

In our first go, we are experiencing problems with Evolution. We are
running fully patched Fedora 12 on amd64 with KDE. We are using
Evolution as the mail client. When we click on hyperlinks in Evolution,
we get an error message: Could not open the link. Operation not
supported.

In the past, we have had to go to the Gnome Control Center and set the
default browser, typically to firefox. However, when we check the Gnome
Control Center, the default browser is set to firefox.

stdout/stderr shows:
[jsulli...@jaspav ~]$ evolution
** (evolution:7015): DEBUG: mailto URL command: evolution
--component=mail %s
** (evolution:7015): DEBUG: mailto URL program: evolution
e-data-server-ui-Message: Unable to find password(s) in keyring (Keyring
reports: No matching results)
e-data-server-ui-Message: Key file does not have group 'Passwords-Mail'
e-data-server-ui-Message: Unable to find password(s) in keyring (Keyring
reports: No matching results)
e-data-server-ui-Message: Key file does not have group 'Passwords-Mail'
e-data-server-ui-Message: Unable to find password(s) in keyring (Keyring
reports: No matching results)
e-data-server-ui-Message: Key file does not have group 'Passwords-Mail'

Where do we look to troubleshoot this further? Thanks - John 

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Re: FC10 and RedHat NTFS file format compatibility

2009-12-03 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 12/03/2009 05:04 PM, Daniel J Celta wrote:
> When trying to read a NTFS preformatted USB drive I am getting a message
> not supported by the system.
> This is under Red Hat 5.4 enterprise.
> 
> When reading about workarounds I gather tha fedora and RedHat do not
> support the format but there is a way to update the kernel to be NTFS
> compatible.

yum list \*ntfs\*

> Can anyone offer some help on how to fix this problem for Redhat 5.4
> and/or Fedora FC10 running under X86_64??

You'd be surprised

> Daniel J Celta

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Re: ath5k access point in Fedora 12

2009-12-03 Thread jaivuk
To be honest I was so upset with permanent problems and unstability of ath5k
driver in AP mode that I purchased ath9k card...
It is much more stable but currently there is a bug in F12 kernel, so I have
to use F11 kernel.

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 5:01 PM, James Allsopp
wrote:

> Hi,
> has anyone had any joy getting an atheros card working in Master mode in
> Fedora 12. All the options in the networking and network-script directories
> say Mode=Master but it won't start. The error on bringing wlan0 up is;
> Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
> SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.
>
> Failing this, is there an easy way to install madwifi, as I had trouble
> finding a repository with the atheros drivers in.
>
> People are also talking about compat-wireless, but a yum search reveals
> nothing in the repositories. Also is there a way of finding out in fedora
> what options were used to compile the kernel.
>
> Thanks,
> James
>
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Not enable to install fc12!!!!!!!

2009-12-03 Thread KI Jean de la Croix

I tried to install fc12 on my laptop but this wasn't possible and this message 
was on my screen:

  Usbcore: registered new interface driver hub
  Usbcore: registered new device driver hub
  Pci :  Using ACPI for IRQ routing
  NetLabel : Initializing
  NetLabel : domain hash size=128
  NetLabel : protocols= UNLABELED CIPSOv4
  NetLabel : unlabeled traffic allowed by default
  DRHD : handling fault status reg f0006796
  Kernel panic - not syncing : DMAR hardware is malfunctioning
  
  Pid: 1, comm : swapper Tainted: C W 2.6.315-127.fc12.x86_64  #1
  
  Call Trace:
   [] panic + 0x7a/0x12c
   [] _ _ dmar_enable_qi + 0xc1/0xac
   [] dmar_enable_qi + 0x110/11b
   [] init_dmars + 0x1f3/0x6f1
   [] i/ntel_iommu_init + 0x26b/0x32a
   [] ? Pci_iommu_init + 0x0/0xa
   [] Pci_iommu_init + 0xe/0x21
   [] do_one_initcall + 0x5e/0x162
   [] kernel_init + 0x219/0x273
   [] child_rip + 0xa/0x20
   [] ? kernel_init + 0x0/0x273
   [] ? child_rip + 0x0/0x20

I have an HP-compaq 6830s.
I installed fc10.x86_64 without problem and now i want to try fc12 so anyone 
may help me to solve this problem?
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FC10 and RedHat NTFS file format compatibility

2009-12-03 Thread Daniel J Celta
When trying to read a NTFS preformatted USB drive I am getting a  
message not supported by the system.

This is under Red Hat 5.4 enterprise.

When reading about workarounds I gather tha fedora and RedHat do not  
support the format but there is a way to update the kernel to be NTFS  
compatible.


Can anyone offer some help on how to fix this problem for Redhat 5.4  
and/or Fedora FC10 running under X86_64??


Daniel J Celta


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Re: fc12 - wehere to get latest STABLE kernel from?

2009-12-03 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 10:30:32 +0100,
  Michal  wrote:
> Hallo Fedora Users
> 
> fedora repos contain: 2.6.31.6 (Thursday, December 03 2009), rawhide
> contains git,
> but where to find latest stable kernel??

The final 2.6.32 kernel got rebuilt last night but didn't make the rawhide
cutoff. If you really want that one right now, you can pull it from koji.

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I: Re: error during Rpm transaction

2009-12-03 Thread lellam...@tiscali.it
Thank you for the help!
Raffaella Mura

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Data: 03/12/2009 22.31
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Ogg: Re: error during Rpm transaction

2009/12/3 Clint 
Dilks :
> Hi
>
> You could try
>
> rm -f 
/var/lib/rpm/__db*
> rpm --rebuilddb
>
> But please check with
> http:
//docs.fedoraproject.org/drafts/rpm-guide-en/ch04s05.html first
>
>


tnx for the tip that worked and also for the link to the rpm-guide!


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Re: F12 Lost Gnome Panels

2009-12-03 Thread Beartooth
On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 15:43:47 -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:
[]
>> On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 11:52:26 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote:
[]
>> > Try restarting gnome-panel (assuming it's Gnome you're using)
>> 
>>  That's what I want all right -- and I am running Gnome. But how
>> do I do it? I can't even seem to get a CLI. Ssh into it from another
>> machine?
> 
> Can you hit Ctrl+Alt+F2 (or F3, F4...) to get a terminal?  

I'd've sworn that was one of the things I had tried; but, be that 
as it may, I did get a prompt this time.

> If so, you
> can log in there, locally, to issue commands.  

I did that, as user. The only command I could think of at first 
was "gnome-panel." That got me lots of options for help, but nothing I 
could understand. I tried several likely-sounding ones anyway, but still 
got nowhere.

> Some may not be as
> effective without the X environment variables set -- but at worst, if
> you had no work pending, you could kill the gnome-session and see if
> your panels return.  (That's kind of an atomic bomb approach.)

H I thought to try "startx" first. That told me X was 
running, and what seemed to be the lock to remove. (There was a short 
illegible line in there.)

I tried "rm /tmp/.X0-lock255.255.0" and it seemed to think the 
command should end with <...>lock ; I tried that; it wouldn't let me; I 
did "su - "  and tried again.

That seemed to succeed, but "startx" got me a whole bunch of 
stuff I couldn't make head nor tail of.

So I tried the big hammer -- Ctrl-Alt-BS -- though I'm sure I had 
before. It did nothing, afaict.

So I tried "ps ax|grep X" -- and got a couple of numbers, one 
obviously the command I had just given. I told it to kill the other. That 
put me back (for the umpteenth time today) to a login screen.

Logging in just put me back into my desert desktop. There are no 
hide buttons nor anything else to show it ever heard of a panel -- and, 
as I thought, Ctrl-Alt-Fx (for x = 2 - 7) does nothing afaict.

I should perhaps mention that this machine (my #1) got royally, 
unbootably bollixed a few days ago, and ended up with a fresh install of 
F12 -- into which I began trying to scp /home/btth from #2 -- and messed 
that up so that there seem to be several partial copies scattered all 
over it in spots, to the point that the hard drive thinks it's 
effectively full  At any rate, "df -h" shows it far fuller than it 
ought to be.

LATER : after another reboot, leaning hard and long on Ctrl-Alt-
F2 did get me another prompt; I logged in as root -- and am wondering 
what to try next 

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Re: error during Rpm transaction

2009-12-03 Thread Antonio M
2009/12/3 Clint Dilks :
> Hi
>
> You could try
>
> rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db*
> rpm --rebuilddb
>
> But please check with
> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/drafts/rpm-guide-en/ch04s05.html first
>
>

tnx for the tip that worked and also for the link to the rpm-guide!

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Re: error during Rpm transaction

2009-12-03 Thread Clint Dilks

Hi

You could try

rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db*
rpm --rebuilddb

But please check with 
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/drafts/rpm-guide-en/ch04s05.html first


Antonio M wrote:

during an update we get:

Running RPM test transaction  -  si è fermato lì e non procede
oltre...la barra va avanti e indietro...
[22:01:54] Raffaella Mura: rpmdb: Thread/process 2203/3078203072
failed: Thread died in Berkeley DB library
errore: errore(4) db-30974 da dbenv->failchk: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal
error, run database recovery
errore: impossibile aprire l'indice Packages utilizando db3 -  (-30974)
errore: impossibile aprire il database dei pacchetti in /var/lib/rpm
CRITICAL:yum.main:

and how do we recover


  


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error during Rpm transaction

2009-12-03 Thread Antonio M
during an update we get:

Running RPM test transaction  -  si è fermato lì e non procede
oltre...la barra va avanti e indietro...
[22:01:54] Raffaella Mura: rpmdb: Thread/process 2203/3078203072
failed: Thread died in Berkeley DB library
errore: errore(4) db-30974 da dbenv->failchk: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal
error, run database recovery
errore: impossibile aprire l'indice Packages utilizando db3 -  (-30974)
errore: impossibile aprire il database dei pacchetti in /var/lib/rpm
CRITICAL:yum.main:

and how do we recover


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Re: F12 Lost Gnome Panels

2009-12-03 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 08:04:55PM +, BeartoothHOS wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 11:52:26 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Beartooth 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>I don't know what I did that made my panels go away -- but I
> >>need
> >> them back.
> >>
> >>All I see is the bare desktop, with launchers for Computer, my
> >> user's home, and the trash.
> >>
> >>I need my left (originally top) and bottom panels. How do I get
> >> them back??
> >>
> >>
> > Try restarting gnome-panel (assuming it's Gnome you're using)
> 
>   That's what I want all right -- and I am running Gnome. But how 
> do I do it? I can't even seem to get a CLI. Ssh into it from another 
> machine?

Can you hit Ctrl+Alt+F2 (or F3, F4...) to get a terminal?  If so, you
can log in there, locally, to issue commands.  Some may not be as
effective without the X environment variables set -- but at worst, if
you had no work pending, you could kill the gnome-session and see if
your panels return.  (That's kind of an atomic bomb approach.)

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Re: Makefile for lib64 libraries

2009-12-03 Thread Todd Zullinger
Steve Searle wrote:
> I have just upgraded to 64-bit Fedora, and have a mysql appliation
> where the build fails with:
>
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lmysqlclient
>
> I know that this is because the library is in lib64, and my
> Makefile.am contains:
>
> bin_PROGRAMS = scraperes
> scraperes_SOURCES = main.cpp ...
> AM_CPPFLAGS = -I/usr/include/mysql
> AM_LDFLAGS = -L/usr/lib/mysql -lmysqlclient
>
> I know I can edit this to have lib64, but what can I do to make it
> work for both 64-bit and 32-bit operating systems?

Using mysql_config to gather the valuse for CPPFLAGS and LDFLAGS might
be best.

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RE: Makefile for lib64 libraries

2009-12-03 Thread Rajan, S. (Sanya)
> -Original Message-
> From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-
> boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Steve Searle
> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 10:03 PM
> To: Fedora List
> Subject: Makefile for lib64 libraries
> 
> I have just upgraded to 64-bit Fedora, and have a mysql appliation
> where the build fails with:
> 
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lmysqlclient
> 
> I know that this is because the library is in lib64, and my Makefile.am
> contains:
> 
> bin_PROGRAMS = scraperes
> scraperes_SOURCES = main.cpp ...
> AM_CPPFLAGS = -I/usr/include/mysql
> AM_LDFLAGS = -L/usr/lib/mysql -lmysqlclient
> 
> I know I can edit this to have lib64, but what can I do to make it work
> for both 64-bit and 32-bit operating systems?

Here's one way to do it:

LBITS := $(shell getconf LONG_BIT)
ifeq ($(LBITS),64)
   AM_LDFLAGS = -L/usr/lib64/mysql -lmysqlclient
else
   AM_LDFLAGS = -L/usr/lib/mysql -lmysqlclient
Endif

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Re: F12 Lost Gnome Panels

2009-12-03 Thread BeartoothHOS
On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 11:52:26 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Beartooth 
> wrote:
> 
> 
>>I don't know what I did that made my panels go away -- but I
>>need
>> them back.
>>
>>All I see is the bare desktop, with launchers for Computer, my
>> user's home, and the trash.
>>
>>I need my left (originally top) and bottom panels. How do I get
>> them back??
>>
>>
> Try restarting gnome-panel (assuming it's Gnome you're using)

That's what I want all right -- and I am running Gnome. But how 
do I do it? I can't even seem to get a CLI. Ssh into it from another 
machine?

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Makefile for lib64 libraries

2009-12-03 Thread Steve Searle
I have just upgraded to 64-bit Fedora, and have a mysql appliation where
the build fails with:

/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lmysqlclient

I know that this is because the library is in lib64, and my Makefile.am
contains:

bin_PROGRAMS = scraperes
scraperes_SOURCES = main.cpp ...
AM_CPPFLAGS = -I/usr/include/mysql
AM_LDFLAGS = -L/usr/lib/mysql -lmysqlclient

I know I can edit this to have lib64, but what can I do to make it work
for both 64-bit and 32-bit operating systems?

Steve

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Re: F12 Lost Gnome Panels

2009-12-03 Thread Rick Stevens
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Beartooth  wrote:

>
>I don't know what I did that made my panels go away -- but I need
> them back.
>
>All I see is the bare desktop, with launchers for Computer, my
> user's home, and the trash.
>
>I need my left (originally top) and bottom panels. How do I get
> them back??
>

Try restarting gnome-panel (assuming it's Gnome you're using)

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F12 Lost Gnome Panels

2009-12-03 Thread Beartooth

I don't know what I did that made my panels go away -- but I need 
them back. 

All I see is the bare desktop, with launchers for Computer, my 
user's home, and the trash.

I need my left (originally top) and bottom panels. How do I get 
them back??

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Re: ath5k access point in Fedora 12

2009-12-03 Thread John W. Linville
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 05:01:52PM +, James Allsopp wrote:
> Hi,
> has anyone had any joy getting an atheros card working in Master mode in
> Fedora 12. All the options in the networking and network-script directories
> say Mode=Master but it won't start. The error on bringing wlan0 up is;
> Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
> SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.

"Master" mode is not available with mac80211-based drivers.  You need
to run hostapd:

http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Documentation/modes

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Re: Adobe AIR not install on F12 x86_64

2009-12-03 Thread Martin Airs

On 12/03/2009 04:52 PM, Sergio Augusto Vladisauskis wrote:

I try install Adobe AIR for applications but not show install window.
I install any libs i686 but no window show.
Someone help me?
   
If you have a look on fedoraforum.org and search for autoten, its a 
script a guy wrote to install all sorts of things automatically and 
easily, Adobe AIR is on that


 http://dnmouse.org/ I think it is

Have a look and let us know how you get on

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OpenOffice and mailmerge to email

2009-12-03 Thread Steven Stern
AARGH!  I spent over an hour this morning on trying to get the mail
merge wizard in OpenOffice to show a "send" button, in addition to save
and print.  The mailmerge package is installed, java is installed and
recognized, but OO just won't admit that it can do a merge to email.

Abashed and ashamed, I booted into Windows and got the necessary stuff
done in 5 minutes with Word and Outlook.  I really want this to work in
Fedora.

Help!

$ rpm -qa |grep openoffice
openoffice.org-impress-core-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.i686
openoffice.org-xsltfilter-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.i686
openoffice.org-emailmerge-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.i686
openoffice.org-core-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.i686
openoffice.org-calc-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.i686
openoffice.org-draw-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.i686
openoffice.org-calc-core-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.i686
openoffice.org-graphicfilter-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.i686
openoffice.org-langpack-en-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.i686
openoffice.org-presenter-screen-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.i686
openoffice.org-impress-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.i686
openoffice.org-pdfimport-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.i686
openoffice.org-pyuno-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.i686
openoffice.org-brand-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.i686
openoffice.org-math-core-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.i686
openoffice.org-math-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.i686
openoffice.org-ure-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.i686
openoffice.org-extendedPDF-1.4-7.fc12.noarch
openoffice.org-draw-core-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.i686
openoffice.org-writer-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.i686
openoffice.org-opensymbol-fonts-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.noarch
openoffice.org-writer-core-3.1.1-19.14.fc12.i686

$ java -version
java version "1.6.0_0"
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.6) (fedora-33.b16.fc12-i386)
OpenJDK Client VM (build 14.0-b16, mixed mode)

(but Java from java.com is also installed.)

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Re: OpenGL test or screen savers wanted for F12

2009-12-03 Thread suvayu ali
2009/12/2 Aaron Gray :
> 2009/12/2 Aaron Gray 
>>
>> 2009/12/2 suvayu ali 
>>>
>>> 2009/12/1 Aaron Gray :
>>> > Hi,
>>> > I have a machine that turns itself off at random when booting or
>>> > running
>>> > Windows XP.
>>> > It runs F12 fine once started and compiles GCC okay.
>>> > What I was wondering if it is some MMX or extra CPU functionality that
>>> > it is
>>> > crashing on.
>>> > What I am after is a yum package that uses F12 either a game or a
>>> > screen
>>> > saver.
>>> > Many thanks in advance,
>>> > Aaron
>>> >
>>>
>>> yum install rss-glx
>>>
>> Okay installed it, where is it and what is it ?
>
> yum install rss-glx-gnome-screensaver
> All working all right !
> Confused !
> Aaron
>

Sorry I couldn't reply sooner, I had missed your reply. But I see that
you have everything working. :)

You can also try xlock, some of the simulations in there are pretty
intensive on the CPU/GPU. Or maybe one of the open-source FPS games
like Nexuiz would also be a good test for the GPU. Warning: the
download size might be quite large.

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Re: Terminator (Gnome)

2009-12-03 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:58:49 -0600, Chris wrote:

> Greetings,
> 
> I love the above mentioned app - and in older versions I used to use,
> it never displayed a pop-up when ya close it.
> 
> It just simply displays a black rectangle in the upper right hand
> corner of your screen with the unforgettable blurb, "I'll be back".

That's a GNOME desktop notification. In this case printed by
/usr/bin/terminator via pynotify -> notification-daemon.

Run   notify-send "I'll be back"   to produce a similar message.

> Anyways, without recompiling from source, has anyone found a way to
> turn this off? I have not seen it mentioned in the Terminator man page
> nor is it in the terminator_config man page.
>
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Terminator is written in Python. No need to recompile. You could
simply modify /usr/bin/terminator where you'll find the message at
the bottom.

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ath5k access point in Fedora 12

2009-12-03 Thread James Allsopp
Hi,
has anyone had any joy getting an atheros card working in Master mode in
Fedora 12. All the options in the networking and network-script directories
say Mode=Master but it won't start. The error on bringing wlan0 up is;
Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.

Failing this, is there an easy way to install madwifi, as I had trouble
finding a repository with the atheros drivers in.

People are also talking about compat-wireless, but a yum search reveals
nothing in the repositories. Also is there a way of finding out in fedora
what options were used to compile the kernel.

Thanks,
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Adobe AIR not install on F12 x86_64

2009-12-03 Thread Sergio Augusto Vladisauskis
I try install Adobe AIR for applications but not show install window.
I install any libs i686 but no window show.
Someone help me?
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Re: qmmp x86_64 dependency problem

2009-12-03 Thread Mikkel
On 12/03/2009 10:10 AM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
> On 12/03/2009 10:46 AM, Mikkel wrote:
>> Have others run into the problem where the qmmp x86_64 update wants
>> to drag in a bunch of .i686 packages as dependencies when you try to
>> upgrade it? I already have all the 64 bit equivalents installed and
>> the installed qmmp 64 bit package works fine.
> 
> I don't see that on f11.X86_64.  I don't currently have qmmp installed.
>  When I try and do "yum install qmmp", the only package it wants to
> install is qmmp.x86_64 0:0.2.3-4.fc11.
> 
> Perhaps something else is causing the dependencies you are seeing?
> 
This is in F12. The only package I am trying to upgrade is qmmp. But
the version in the F12 repo is qmmp.0.3.1-1.f12.x86_64. I already
have qmmp-0.3.0-3.fc12.x86_64 installed.

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Trying to pdate.

2009-12-03 Thread James Allsopp
Hi,
I'm trying to update my F12 ystem and I get the following error,
Error Type: 
Error Value: Error getting repository data for installed, repository not
found
  File : /usr/share/PackageKit/helpers/yum/yumBackend.py, line 3125, in

main()
  File : /usr/share/PackageKit/helpers/yum/yumBackend.py, line 3122, in main
backend.dispatcher(sys.argv[1:])
  File : /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/packagekit/backend.py, line 710,
in dispatcher
self.dispatch_command(args[0], args[1:])
  File : /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/packagekit/backend.py, line 657,
in dispatch_command
self.update_packages(only_trusted, package_ids)
  File : /usr/share/PackageKit/helpers/yum/yumBackend.py, line 1948, in
update_packages
signed = self._is_package_repo_signed(pkg)
  File : /usr/share/PackageKit/helpers/yum/yumBackend.py, line 1437, in
_is_package_repo_signed
repo = self.yumbase.repos.getRepo(pkg.repoid)
  File : /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/yum/repos.py, line 121, in getRepo
'Error getting repository data for $s, repository not found' $ (repoid)


Any ideas how to fix this, please,
Thanks
James
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Re: Clobbered display when switching users.

2009-12-03 Thread Aioanei Rares

On 12/03/2009 06:07 PM, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
Running F12 with integrated ATI Radion HD 4200 GPU and 
mesa-dri-drivers-experimental.


When I switch to another user everything works nicely but when I 
switch back to the original user the display becomes all clobbered, 
i.e. wrong colours and figures and letters are difficult to read. I 
can just manage to log out and back again after which the display is 
back to normal.


Is this something I can correct or should I file a bug report?


File a bug and if it's a duplicate, it wil be marked accordingly.

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Re: qmmp x86_64 dependency problem

2009-12-03 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 12/03/2009 10:46 AM, Mikkel wrote:
> Have others run into the problem where the qmmp x86_64 update wants
> to drag in a bunch of .i686 packages as dependencies when you try to
> upgrade it? I already have all the 64 bit equivalents installed and
> the installed qmmp 64 bit package works fine.

I don't see that on f11.X86_64.  I don't currently have qmmp installed.
 When I try and do "yum install qmmp", the only package it wants to
install is qmmp.x86_64 0:0.2.3-4.fc11.

Perhaps something else is causing the dependencies you are seeing?

> Mikkel

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Clobbered display when switching users.

2009-12-03 Thread Erik P. Olsen
Running F12 with integrated ATI Radion HD 4200 GPU and 
mesa-dri-drivers-experimental.


When I switch to another user everything works nicely but when I switch back to 
the original user the display becomes all clobbered, i.e. wrong colours and 
figures and letters are difficult to read. I can just manage to log out and back 
again after which the display is back to normal.


Is this something I can correct or should I file a bug report?

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Re: How to configure Thunderbird to open pdf attachments with Okular?

2009-12-03 Thread Henrique Koesjan
sorry, mimeTypes.rdf not mimeType.rdf

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Henrique Koesjan  wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> I don't know if it is the best way to do that, but you can:
> close thunderbird
> go to:
> ~/.thunderbird/
> there is a directory like ??.default or other name (your profile folder).
> There is a file called mimeType.rdf
>
> make a backup of it: cp mimeType.rdf mimeType.rdf.backup
> gedit mimeType.rdf
>
> look for some lines like that:
>                     NC:prettyName=""
>                   NC:path="" />
>
> change to:
>                     NC:prettyName="okular"
>                   NC:path="/usr/bin/okular" />
>
> save and close gedit, and exit terminal.
>
> open thunderbird, and next time you will be prompted to open, you can
> choose okular and if you want memorize this decision.
>
> hope it can help.
> henrique
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Paul Smith  wrote:
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I would like to configure Thunderbird to open pdf attachments with
>> Okular. However, I cannot find any entry for the pdf type in the tab
>> Attachments of the Preferences window. Any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Paul
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Re: Assistance finding out what process is writing to the disk drive

2009-12-03 Thread Andrew Haley
Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> John Nissley wrote:
>> I do not know what is causing the disk drive light to stay on now.
> 
> # yum install blktrace
> $ man blktrace 

 # btrace /dev/sda
Invalid debug path /sys/kernel/debug: 0/Success

Mmm, does this work for anyone else?

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Re: How to configure Thunderbird to open pdf attachments with Okular?

2009-12-03 Thread Henrique Koesjan
Hi Paul,

I don't know if it is the best way to do that, but you can:
close thunderbird
go to:
~/.thunderbird/
there is a directory like ??.default or other name (your profile folder).
There is a file called mimeType.rdf

make a backup of it: cp mimeType.rdf mimeType.rdf.backup
gedit mimeType.rdf

look for some lines like that:
  

change to:
  

save and close gedit, and exit terminal.

open thunderbird, and next time you will be prompted to open, you can
choose okular and if you want memorize this decision.

hope it can help.
henrique


On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Paul Smith  wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> I would like to configure Thunderbird to open pdf attachments with
> Okular. However, I cannot find any entry for the pdf type in the tab
> Attachments of the Preferences window. Any ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Paul
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qmmp x86_64 dependency problem

2009-12-03 Thread Mikkel
Have others run into the problem where the qmmp x86_64 update wants
to drag in a bunch of .i686 packages as dependencies when you try to
upgrade it? I already have all the 64 bit equivalents installed and
the installed qmmp 64 bit package works fine.

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Re: Assistance finding out what process is writing to the disk drive

2009-12-03 Thread Michael Cronenworth

John Nissley wrote:

I do not know what is causing the disk drive light to stay on now.


# yum install blktrace
$ man blktrace

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Re: Assistance finding out what process is writing to the disk drive

2009-12-03 Thread Aioanei Rares

On 12/03/2009 04:30 PM, John Nissley wrote:
Thanks for the IOTOP command.  It does not show me much in this case.  
I do not know what is causing the disk drive light to stay on now. The 
disk drive light works fine until about 5 minutes after boot up.  then 
the hard drive light goes crazy and stays on solid.  I can not really 
tell if the the hard drive is really in use but according to IOTOP it 
is not being used.



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Re: F12 NFS install locks up on "Performing post-installation configuration"

2009-12-03 Thread John Austin
On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 21:18 -0500, Reuben Budiardja wrote:
> On Wednesday 02 December 2009 19:10:14 Reuben Budiardja wrote:
> > Hello,
> > Has anyone tried installing F12 using NFS ?
> > I created a boot USB, boot via USB, then use "linux askmethod", and then
> > perform NFS install. I also created a custom hard drive layout. Everything
> > works fine until it gets to the end to do "Performing post-installation
> > configuration", where the system just locks up. I've tried the same thing
> >  three times and get exactly the same result.
> > 
> > Any ideas ?
> > 
> > Trying USB or DVD install next.
> 
> It is indeed something to do with NFS install. USB install worked fine.
> 
> RDB
> 

I have successfully installed F12 from Centos 5.4 NFS server
Booted from DVD though

Used askmethod and expert mode

No hang ups

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Assistance finding out what process is writing to the disk drive

2009-12-03 Thread John Nissley
Thanks for the IOTOP command.  It does not show me much in this case.  I 
do not know what is causing the disk drive light to stay on now. The 
disk drive light works fine until about 5 minutes after boot up.  then 
the hard drive light goes crazy and stays on solid.  I can not really 
tell if the the hard drive is really in use but according to IOTOP it is 
not being used.



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Re: fc12 - wehere to get latest STABLE kernel from?

2009-12-03 Thread Aioanei Rares

On 12/03/2009 11:30 AM, Michal wrote:

Hallo Fedora Users

fedora repos contain: 2.6.31.6 (Thursday, December 03 2009), rawhide
contains git,
but where to find latest stable kernel??

best regards,
Michal

   
The last stable kernel is, as of today, 2.6.32 . Now, point your browser 
to www.kernel.org, download it and install it.


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Re: F12 text mode and disk layout

2009-12-03 Thread Markku Kolkka
Simon Andrews kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika torstai, 3. 
joulukuuta 2009):
> Just to say I had exactly the same problem.  I'm sure I've
> done a text mode manual partitioning before, but this time
> there was no option to do that.
>
> I'm not sure if this is an omission or has been deliberately
> removed,

It's deliberately removed. See the F12 install guide: 
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f12/en-US/html/s1-guimode-textinterface-x86.html

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Re: F12 text mode and disk layout

2009-12-03 Thread Simon Andrews

Andrea wrote:

Hi,

I've just installed F12 on a PS3.
Only text mode installation works due to the amount of RAM available.

I would like to partition my hard disk to have / and /home in a different 
partition.
Single big reason is that new reinstall I keep /home instead of loosing it.

So,

the closest I got to partitioning was a menu with 3 choices

- use entire disk
- replace linux system
- use free space

none of them took me to a partitioning tool.
I can see in the installation notes a picture of such a tool


Just to say I had exactly the same problem.  I'm sure I've done a text 
mode manual partitioning before, but this time there was no option to do 
that.


I'm not sure if this is an omission or has been deliberately removed, 
but I'd suspect a trip to bugzilla is in order.  If you post the bug # 
I'd be happy to add a 'me too'


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Re: How to change default keyring in fedora .... which is asked at network connection

2009-12-03 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 03 December 2009 11:26:23 Jatin K wrote:
> I've changed the user password on my system  now I want to change
> the default keyring password also, is there any way to change the
> default keyring. I've tried to install gnome-keyring-manager using yum
> but it says that no package is available to install

yum install seahorse

Best, :-)
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Re: How to install printer driver without printer connected.

2009-12-03 Thread Tim Waugh
On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 10:53 +, Joe Feely wrote:
> I use a Dell 1720 laser printer 13 miles away (when I visit there), with
> no IN connection.

Here's a user-contributed openprinting.org entry for that device (I
think):
http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Dell-1720dn

It looks like you have two main options: PCL and PostScript.  CUPS in
Fedora 12 already comes with drivers for both of these languages so it
shouldn't be too hard to set up.  It won't be automatic though, as far
as I can tell.  This is because that device is not specifically listed
as being supported by any of the main printer drivers.

> How can I "install the required driver" while at home, from which I have
> access to the IN (and the CD I installed from, though I've no handy
> means of using this where the printer is).

First, make sure you have installed the updates.

Next, take a look at this entry in the common bugs list:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F12_bugs#foomatic-not-installed

As foomatic does contain some additional PCL and PostScript drivers, it
might be worth installing it.  Better to have it available to try than
not, especially with no Internet connection on site.

Also worth installing: gutenprint-cups, which has some PCL drivers of
its own.

Once you have all those installed there's not a lot more you can
usefully do until you have the device connected.  Once you have though
it should prompt you to select a driver for it, presuming it's a USB
device.  Otherwise:

System->Administration->Printing

Click New

The printer should already be shown and selected; if not, select the
connection type (e.g. LPT #1 or whatever).  Click Next.

Select Generic for the manufacturer. (PCL and PostScript are standard
languages supported by many different manufacturers, and as I said
earlier there is no driver with specific support for this model.)  Click
Forward.

Select PCL Laser Printer (this is the CUPS PCL driver), for example.
Click Forward, and follow the rest of the on-screen instructions.

It will ask you whether to print a test page -- do this.  If it doesn't
work, double-click on the printer icon in the printer configuration
window and click the 'Change...' button next to 'Make and Model:', and
try another driver.

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How to change default keyring in fedora .... which is asked at network connection

2009-12-03 Thread Jatin K

dear all

I've changed the user password on my system  now I want to change 
the default keyring password also, is there any way to change the 
default keyring. I've tried to install gnome-keyring-manager using yum 
but it says that no package is available to install


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Re: errors on trying to install latest nvidia driver with F12

2009-12-03 Thread N James Bridge
Hi all

I have now succeeded in installing the nvidia driver and have used
Richard Shaw's trick to stop nouveau loading (add rdblacklist=nouveau to
the kernel parameters in grub.conf). The result is that the graphical
boot (plymouth) is replaced by a plain progress bar but once that is
finished the nvidia driver works as intended.

Thanks for the various bits of advice

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How to install printer driver without printer connected.

2009-12-03 Thread Joe Feely
I have F12 installed from a live CD (on my AA1, I used an external DVD
rewriter).
I use a Dell 1720 laser printer 13 miles away (when I visit there), with
no IN connection.
How can I "install the required driver" while at home, from which I have
access to the IN (and the CD I installed from, though I've no handy
means of using this where the printer is).

I have tried Googling it.
Any pointers / guidance appreciated.

TIA
Joe

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[Off Topic] Announcing the Release of the World's First 64-bit Build of Google's Chromium OS with Xen Virtualization Support

2009-12-03 Thread Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)
I have integrated the open source Xen hypervisor 3.4.3 RC1-pre and
Jeremy Fitzhardinge's pv-ops dom0-patched kernel 2.6.31.6 into my
64-bit build of ChromiumOS. With the integrated Xen virtualization
support, you can now create and run virtual machines or guest
operating systems in Google's Chromium OS. If you do not have a need
to create virtual machines, you can simply run ChromiumOS64 as a Xen
domU virtual machine.

To run Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 2000, Windows
Server 2003 and/or Windows Server 2008 as a hardware virtual machine
(HVM), you need to have a processor with hardware virtualization
support, e.g. Intel VT-x or AMD Pacifica.

To enable PCI/PCI-e and/or VGA pass-through to HVM virtual machines,
you need to have a motherboard with a supporting chipset capable of
Intel Virtualization Technology for Directed Input/Output (VT-d). VGA
passthrough is more involved and may require you to modify the code to
properly support your specific PCI Express x16 graphics card and
recompile the Xen hypervisor and Xen tools.

Download your copy now! Please note that this is a pre-alpha release.

Download links:

http://www.chromiumos64.org
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fc12 - wehere to get latest STABLE kernel from?

2009-12-03 Thread Michal
Hallo Fedora Users

fedora repos contain: 2.6.31.6 (Thursday, December 03 2009), rawhide
contains git,
but where to find latest stable kernel??

best regards,
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Re: FC12 System Hangs when AC adopter is connected

2009-12-03 Thread Jatin K

On 12/02/2009 10:11 PM, Tony Nelson wrote:

On 09-12-02 02:21:24, Jatin K wrote:
   

Dear all

I'm Using Dell Vostro 1520 Laptop  and have installed Fedora Core
12 x86_64 .. my problem is like that if laptop runs on battery power
it works fine , as soon as I connect AC adopter to charge the battery
laptop hangs after 10 to 15 minutes

what could be the wrong ???
 

Overheating.  You might have to open it and blow out the dust.  Gently.

   
There are no any chances for overheating  as My laptop is new just 
got it before 20 days


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Re: FC12 System Hangs when AC adopter is connected

2009-12-03 Thread Jatin K

On 12/02/2009 03:19 PM, Rajan, S. (Sanya) wrote:

-Original Message-
From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-
boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Jatin K
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:21 AM
To: Community assistance,and advice for using Fedora.
Subject: FC12 System Hangs when AC adopter is connected

Dear all

I'm Using Dell Vostro 1520 Laptop  and have installed Fedora Core
12
x86_64 .. my problem is like that if laptop runs on battery power it
works fine , as soon as I connect AC adopter to charge the battery
laptop hangs after 10 to 15 minutes

what could be the wrong ???
 

It could be caused by the laptop running at a higher performance level when on 
AC power, which causes the problem to manifest.

Have you tried running memtest while on AC power?
   

No I've not tried it yet . I will check it and let you know


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Re: FC12 System Hangs when AC adopter is connected

2009-12-03 Thread Jatin K

On 12/02/2009 07:07 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:

Rajan, S. (Sanya) wrote:

-Original Message-
From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-
boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Jatin K
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 9:21 AM
To: Community assistance,and advice for using Fedora.
Subject: FC12 System Hangs when AC adopter is connected

Dear all

I'm Using Dell Vostro 1520 Laptop  and have installed Fedora Core
12
x86_64 .. my problem is like that if laptop runs on battery power it
works fine , as soon as I connect AC adopter to charge the battery
laptop hangs after 10 to 15 minutes

what could be the wrong ???


It could be caused by the laptop running at a higher performance 
level when on AC power, which causes the problem to manifest.


Have you tried running memtest while on AC power?


First, that's a bizarre thought, but you certainly could be right.

My thoughts, also unlikely:
- attach the power connection before powering on (connection glitch 
issue)

- attach charger and fully charge before powering on
  ("Battery fully charged pop-up issue)
- repeat the test in 32 bit (Live-CD, not reinstall)

I'm happy to offer thoughts, but happier that I don't have the problem.

Thnx for reply

I will try the things which you have suggested


thnx again

Regards take care


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Re: Wine

2009-12-03 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 17:01 +1030, Tim wrote:
> If you don't know how not to write offensive emails, please practice
> somewhere else.

And on a side note, learn where the "?" key is. It's use in putting
questions in English is *not* optional.

poc

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