Re: Can I avoid the ppc builder?
On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 10:27 -0500, David Juran wrote: Hello. Is there a way I can keep my builds away from the ppc builders? I'm trying to push an update to my noarch (java) package (http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1847061) but it seems to end up on a ppc64 builder and fail miserably )-: Now I promise I will try to dig in to the root cause of the build failure but since ppc no longer is a primary architecture, the failed build on PPC shouldn't hold up the release on the primary architectures. Not really, that is a bit of a problem. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list
Re: Can I avoid the ppc builder?
- Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote: On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 10:27 -0500, David Juran wrote: Hello. Is there a way I can keep my builds away from the ppc builders? I'm trying to push an update to my noarch (java) package (http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1847061) but it seems to end up on a ppc64 builder and fail miserably )-: Now I promise I will try to dig in to the root cause of the build failure but since ppc no longer is a primary architecture, the failed build on PPC shouldn't hold up the release on the primary architectures. Not really, that is a bit of a problem. Doing some bugzilla searching, I think I'm running into https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=537536 I'll try to get hold of Andrew tomorrow to see if he can push the correction to stable. -- David Juran Sr. Consultant Red Hat +358-504-146348 -- Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list Fedora-buildsys-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list
Re: v4l applications
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski domi...@greysector.net wrote: On Saturday, 05 December 2009 at 15:48, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: There are some old v4l applications that do not work in Fedora 12. I found so far fmtools and gnomeradio. Gnomeradio accepts v4l2, but one has to use a gconf editor to change the driver (there is no option in the application interface). I tried to patch gnomerario, but I do not know how to force updating gconf database. I think that a new account should have the new defaults, but how do I force a change in a previously created account? I'm the maintainer of gnomeradio, but I haven't used it for a while because I'm away from my desktop PC, which has an analog tv/radio tuner card. Would you be interested in co-maintaining gnomeradio? Sure. There are very few radio applications around, and they are kind of unmaintained upstream. I made a review request yesterday with a patched gqradio for working with v4l2. gnomeradio just needs best defaults for v4l2 and a script for having sound using sox, because it never recognized the mixer channels of my card: http://orion.lcg.ufrj.br/RPMS/src/gnomeradio-1.8-4.fc12.src.rpm kradio4 works fine with v4l2 and fmtools is bkoken. Thanks. -- Paulo Roma Cavalcanti LCG - UFRJ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Exception request from FESCo for bundled libaries
I was informed that wordpress uses bundled libraries and would like to request an exception from FESCo. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=544720 Adrian -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Upstart 0.6.3 coming to a rawhide near you
Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com writes: If you own any of the following packages, you have upstart job files that will need modified for any needed format changes, and the new location. * clamav ensc * dhcp-forwarder ensc * ip-sentinel ensc * milter-greylist ensc * tor ensc We're willing to do the legwork for you, or you can do the update yourself once we land 0.6.x; give us a reply with which you'd prefer. I updated (but not tested) them in rawhide. Enrico -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: v4l applications
On Sunday, 06 December 2009 at 10:36, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote:
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
domi...@greysector.net wrote:
On Saturday, 05 December 2009 at 15:48, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote:
There are some old v4l applications that do not work in Fedora 12.
I found so far fmtools and gnomeradio.
Gnomeradio accepts v4l2, but one has to use a gconf editor
to change the driver (there is no option in the application interface).
I tried to patch gnomerario, but I do not know how to force
updating gconf database. I think that a new account should
have the new defaults, but how do I force a change in a previously
created
account?
I'm the maintainer of gnomeradio, but I haven't used it for a while because
I'm away from my desktop PC, which has an analog tv/radio tuner card.
Would you be interested in co-maintaining gnomeradio?
Sure. There are very few radio applications around, and they are kind of
unmaintained upstream. I made a review request yesterday with a patched
gqradio for working with v4l2.
gnomeradio just needs best defaults for v4l2 and a script for having sound
using sox, because it never recognized the mixer channels of my card:
http://orion.lcg.ufrj.br/RPMS/src/gnomeradio-1.8-4.fc12.src.rpm
kradio4 works fine with v4l2 and fmtools is bkoken.
It would've been easier for me if you had just posted a patch for the specfile
along with the patch you wanted to apply to the source.
Anyway, I had a look at it and I don't like it. You're hardcoding the driver
to v4l2. I think it'd be better to simply make the autodetection try v4l2
first. Also, is it necessary to change /dev/radio to /dev/radio0?
Please try the attached patch and see if it works for you.
Thanks and regards,
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diff -up gnomeradio-1.8/src/prefs.c.v4l2 gnomeradio-1.8/src/prefs.c
--- gnomeradio-1.8/src/prefs.c.v4l2 2008-04-13 15:04:52.0 +0200
+++ gnomeradio-1.8/src/prefs.c 2009-12-06 12:43:45.0 +0100
@@ -112,7 +112,7 @@ gboolean load_settings(void)
/* Load general settings */
settings.device = gconf_client_get_string(client,
/apps/gnomeradio/device , NULL);
if (!settings.device)
- settings.device = g_strdup(/dev/radio);
+ settings.device = g_strdup(/dev/radio0);
settings.driver = gconf_client_get_string(client,
/apps/gnomeradio/driver , NULL);
if (!settings.driver)
settings.driver = g_strdup(any);
diff -up gnomeradio-1.8/src/radio.c.v4l2 gnomeradio-1.8/src/radio.c
--- gnomeradio-1.8/src/radio.c.v4l2 2008-04-13 14:55:43.0 +0200
+++ gnomeradio-1.8/src/radio.c 2009-12-06 12:44:01.0 +0100
@@ -41,9 +41,9 @@ int radio_init(char *device, DriverType
}
switch (driver) {
+ case DRIVER_ANY:
case DRIVER_V4L2:
goto try_v4l2;
- case DRIVER_ANY:
case DRIVER_V4L1:
default:
goto try_v4l1;
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Re: v4l applications
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski domi...@greysector.net wrote: On Sunday, 06 December 2009 at 10:36, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski domi...@greysector.net wrote: On Saturday, 05 December 2009 at 15:48, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: There are some old v4l applications that do not work in Fedora 12. I found so far fmtools and gnomeradio. Gnomeradio accepts v4l2, but one has to use a gconf editor to change the driver (there is no option in the application interface). I tried to patch gnomerario, but I do not know how to force updating gconf database. I think that a new account should have the new defaults, but how do I force a change in a previously created account? I'm the maintainer of gnomeradio, but I haven't used it for a while because I'm away from my desktop PC, which has an analog tv/radio tuner card. Would you be interested in co-maintaining gnomeradio? Sure. There are very few radio applications around, and they are kind of unmaintained upstream. I made a review request yesterday with a patched gqradio for working with v4l2. gnomeradio just needs best defaults for v4l2 and a script for having sound using sox, because it never recognized the mixer channels of my card: http://orion.lcg.ufrj.br/RPMS/src/gnomeradio-1.8-4.fc12.src.rpm kradio4 works fine with v4l2 and fmtools is bkoken. It would've been easier for me if you had just posted a patch for the specfile along with the patch you wanted to apply to the source. Anyway, I had a look at it and I don't like it. You're hardcoding the driver to v4l2. I think it'd be better to simply make the autodetection try v4l2 first. Also, is it necessary to change /dev/radio to /dev/radio0? There is no /dev/radio in Fedora 12 any more. Only /dev/radio0. But this is up to you, because it can be set using the interface. Please try the attached patch and see if it works for you. It worked just fine, and it is much better indeed. This way, the default can be any, and it will work with v4l2. It is also working in Fedora 10 for me. Thanks. -- Paulo Roma Cavalcanti LCG - UFRJ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Packages looking for new owners
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 7:12 AM, Conrad Meyer wrote: I'd like to take sdcc. Can you also package http://eclipse-sdcc.sourceforge.net/ please ? Chitlesh -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: v4l applications
2009/12/5 Paulo Cavalcanti pro...@gmail.com: There are some old v4l applications that do not work in Fedora 12. I found so far fmtools and gnomeradio. I will have a look on fmtools in ew days, but until then, patches welcomed. Nicolas (kwizart) -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Help with packaging
On Sunday 06 December 2009 04:01:54 pm Robert Spanton wrote: On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 19:16 -0800, Conrad Meyer wrote: I'm experiencing trouble trying to get one of my packages (sdcc) to build for Fedora 12. It builds on Fedora 11 and older (just double-checked in mock). It seems to be some sort of change in how RPM uses __os_install_post or how brp- strip-static-archive works between F11 and F12. Anyone familiar with any such changes? You might find it useful to have a look at what I'm doing in msp430-libc with __os_install_post. I think I was inspired to do this by what was done in avr-libc. Thanks, I'll try doing that now. Unfortunately it seems like that will stop rpmbuild from stripping the (native) sdcc binaries, but I'd like to see the package building. RPM seems to be one of those things where knowledge is passed on by word of mouth between generations :-/ Yes, and perhaps more work could be done with rpm to improve support for cross-compiler-related packages. p.s. Sorry for not replying sooner -- I don't read all posts to fedora-devel, as I would go insane :-P I'm glad to get any help. Thanks, -- Conrad Meyer ceme...@u.washington.edu -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
ANNOUNCE: Apache SpamAssassin 3.3.0-beta1 available
Apache SpamAssassin 3.3.0-beta1 is now available for testing. Downloads are available from: http://people.apache.org/~wtogami/devel/ md5sum of archive files: 9b39e4e4fad09cfe9eff974f3d5a01ea Mail-SpamAssassin-3.3.0-beta1.tar.bz2 530fb1bd28977271f30b348bc2b68db1 Mail-SpamAssassin-3.3.0-beta1.tar.gz 637f6495b28e9ab9580206ee344a2074 Mail-SpamAssassin-3.3.0-beta1.zip cbd092c4e0e71b531f7aca81d4eb2781 Mail-SpamAssassin-rules-3.3.0-beta1.r886683.tgz sha1sum of archive files: b6aa2f21610e1de87bf21b629b98df9bddfa0988 Mail-SpamAssassin-3.3.0-beta1.tar.bz2 6750417097ce289a5b295c75bfc20a877bea87e6 Mail-SpamAssassin-3.3.0-beta1.tar.gz 95a54095f6e201a1b582f3715c81c9485aab5325 Mail-SpamAssassin-3.3.0-beta1.zip 3e2b23828dd3a7575ced80b2d6571995aebd7299 Mail-SpamAssassin-rules-3.3.0-beta1.r886683.tgz Note that the *-rules-*.tgz files are only necessary if you cannot, or do not wish to, run sa-update after install to download the latest fresh rules. The release files also have a .asc accompanying them. The file serves as an external GPG signature for the given release file. The signing key is available via the wwwkeys.pgp.net key server, as well as http://www.apache.org/dist/spamassassin/KEYS The key information is: pub 4096R/F7D39814 2009-12-02 Key fingerprint = D809 9BC7 9E17 D7E4 9BC2 1E31 FDE5 2F40 F7D3 9814 uid SpamAssassin Project Management Committee priv...@spamassassin.apache.org uid SpamAssassin Signing Key (Code Signing Key, replacement for 1024D/265FA05B) d...@spamassassin.apache.org sub 4096R/7B3265A5 2009-12-02 See the INSTALL and UPGRADE files in the distribution for important installation notes. Summary of major changes since 3.2.5 COMPATIBILITY WITH 3.2.5 - rules are no longer distributed with the package, but installed by sa-update - either automatically fetched from the network (preferably), or from a tar archive, which is available for downloading separately - CPAN module requirements: - minimum required version of ExtUtils::MakeMaker is 6.17 - modules now required: Time::HiRes, NetAddr::IP, Archive::Tar - minimal version of Mail::DKIM is 0.31 (preferred: 0.37 or later); expect some tests in t/dkim2.t to fail with versions older than 0.36_5; - no longer used: Mail::DomainKeys, Mail::SPF::Query - if module Digest::SHA is not available, a module Digest::SHA1 will be used, but at least one of them must be installed; a DKIM plugin requires Digest::SHA (the older Digest::SHA1 does not support sha256 hashes), so in practice the Digest::SHA is required - if keeping AWL database in SQL, the field awl.ip must be extended to 40 characters. The change is necessary to allow AWL to keep track of IPv6 addresses which may appear in a mail header even on non-IPv6 -enabled host. While at it, consider also adding a field 'signedby' to the SQL table 'awl' (and adding 'auto_whitelist_distinguish_signed 1' to local.cf); See sql/README.awl for details. The change need not be undone even if downgrading back to 3.2.* for some reason; - fixing a protocol implementation error regarding a PING command required bumping up the SPAMC protocol version to 1.5. Spamd retains compatibility with older spamc clients. Combining new spamc clients with pre-3.3 versions of a spamd daemon is not supported (but happens to work, except for the PING and SKIP commands). - it may be worth mentioning that a rule DKIM_VERIFIED has been renamed to DKIM_VALID, to match its semantics; - support for versions of perl 5.6.* is being gradually revoked (may still work, but no promises and no support) - preferred versions of perl are 5.8.8, 5.8.9, and 5.10.1 or later MAIN NEW FEATURES - IPv6 support was substantially improved (see below); - many improvements to the DKIM plugin (understands author domain signatures, supports multiple signatures, ADSP support with overrides) - (see below); - added 'if can(Class::method)' conditional statement, allowing configuration settings to be conditionalised on plugin capabilities without requiring new version releases to do so; - added a configuration option 'time_limit', defaulting to 300 seconds or whatever the caller (like spamd) provides; attempting to gracefully terminate the checking when a time limit is reached, reporting the score and test hits that were collected so far, along with an added hit on a rule TIME_LIMIT_EXCEEDED; - more expensive code sections are now instrumented with timing measurements; timing report is logged as a debug message by the end of processing, and made available to a caller and to 'add_header' directives through a TIMING tag; - added a configuration option skip_uribl_checks to the URIDNSBL plugin, cross-document it with skip_rbl_checks; - preserve order of declared 'add_header' header fields; - configurable network mask length for the AWL plugin (see below); - added support for DCC
Re: Exception request from FESCo for bundled libaries
Adrian Reber wrote: I was informed that wordpress uses bundled libraries and would like to request an exception from FESCo. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=544720 The right thing to do is to fix the problem, not to request an exception. It is likely to be voted down. I'm not going to vote for an exception if you can't prove that it's truly necessary, and in past precedents, most folks on FESCo felt even stronger about this issue than me. And upstream does it that way is NOT a valid reason, you're supposed to patch the code to use the system libraries, it's part of being a maintainer. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Packages looking for new owners
Conrad Meyer wrote:
Also, SDCC currently does not build (clarification: the software builds
fine. rpmbuild is choking on non-native ar files)
Try this:
%define __os_install_post %(echo '%{__os_install_post}' | sed -e
's!/usr/lib/rpm/[^/]*/?brp-strip-static-archive %{__strip}!!g')
(It's working fine in tigcc.spec to prevent tigcc.a from being corrupted.)
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CICE-2010: Call for Papers
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[Bug 541888] Fontforge crashes when loading font
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=541888 Kevin Fenzi ke...@tummy.com changed: What|Removed |Added Flag||needinfo?(tob...@ringis.se) --- Comment #3 from Kevin Fenzi ke...@tummy.com 2009-12-06 13:47:02 EDT --- Strange. So I have this font installed here, and fontforge works fine. What do you see in: xlsfonts | grep arphic-ar | grep 13 I've talked with upstream about this before, and they won't fix it, as they say the X server should never lie to them and tell them that a font can be used when it cannot. :( What is your locale set to? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 539412] Versions of binary and source RPMs don't match
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[Bug 476459] wqy-zenhei-fonts overrides Japanese desktop (so can't be installed by default in @chinese-support group)
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=476459 Jens Petersen peter...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Version|11 |rawhide --- Comment #40 from Jens Petersen peter...@redhat.com 2009-12-06 21:45:31 EDT --- We need a .conf file in fedora to make this only apply for zh like we do for other CJK fonts. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 476459] wqy-zenhei-fonts overrides Japanese desktop (so can't be installed by default in @chinese-support group)
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=476459 --- Comment #42 from Jens Petersen peter...@redhat.com 2009-12-06 22:34:49 EDT --- Created an attachment (id=376561) -- (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=376561) fedora .conf file for zh Based on the vlgothic .conf files and /usr/share/fontconfig/templates/l10n-font-template.conf. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 476459] wqy-zenhei-fonts overrides Japanese desktop (so can't be installed by default in @chinese-support group)
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[Bug 544957] VL Gothic should provide Sans fallback
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[Bug 544957] New: VL Gothic should provide Sans fallback
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: VL Gothic should provide Sans fallback https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=544957 Summary: VL Gothic should provide Sans fallback Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: medium Priority: low Component: vlgothic-fonts AssignedTo: extras-orp...@fedoraproject.org ReportedBy: peter...@redhat.com QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org CC: ta...@redhat.com, extras-orp...@fedoraproject.org, fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com, fedora-i18n-b...@redhat.com Classification: Fedora Target Release: --- Description of problem: vlgothic-fonts.noarch currently only aliases Monospace whereas vlgothic--p-fonts aliases Sans-serif, but we only install vlgothic-fonts.noarch by default so no Japanese Sans defined by default on the desktop. vlgothic-fonts.noarch should also alias Sans-serif as a fallback. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
rpms/vlgothic-fonts/devel .cvsignore, 1.4, 1.5 sources, 1.4, 1.5 vlgothic-fontconfig-gothic.conf, 1.1, 1.2 vlgothic-fontconfig-pgothic.conf, 1.1, 1.2 vlgothic-fonts.spec, 1.6, 1.7
Author: tagoh Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/vlgothic-fonts/devel In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv6396 Modified Files: .cvsignore sources vlgothic-fontconfig-gothic.conf vlgothic-fontconfig-pgothic.conf vlgothic-fonts.spec Log Message: * Mon Dec 7 2009 Akira TAGOH ta...@redhat.com - 20091202-1 - New upstream release. - Set the priority to 65 for vlgothic-p-fonts to override the rule in vlgothic-fonts for sans-serif. - Set the priority to 66 and contains both rules for sans-serif and monospace to avoid picking up the unrelated fonts in Live. where doesn't have vlgothic-p-fonts installed. (#544957) Index: .cvsignore === RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/vlgothic-fonts/devel/.cvsignore,v retrieving revision 1.4 retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -p -r1.4 -r1.5 --- .cvsignore 15 Jun 2009 11:21:07 - 1.4 +++ .cvsignore 7 Dec 2009 06:37:58 - 1.5 @@ -1,3 +1,4 @@ VLGothic-20090204.tar.bz2 VLGothic-20090422.tar.bz2 VLGothic-20090612.tar.bz2 +VLGothic-20091202.tar.bz2 Index: sources === RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/vlgothic-fonts/devel/sources,v retrieving revision 1.4 retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -p -r1.4 -r1.5 --- sources 15 Jun 2009 11:21:08 - 1.4 +++ sources 7 Dec 2009 06:37:58 - 1.5 @@ -1 +1 @@ -2ae45ffcaf4fd75331eb582cfee6cc54 VLGothic-20090612.tar.bz2 +db66b71975c6ffc54ca37f0d13451e0a VLGothic-20091202.tar.bz2 Index: vlgothic-fontconfig-gothic.conf === RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/vlgothic-fonts/devel/vlgothic-fontconfig-gothic.conf,v retrieving revision 1.1 retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -p -r1.1 -r1.2 --- vlgothic-fontconfig-gothic.conf 10 Feb 2009 11:48:21 - 1.1 +++ vlgothic-fontconfig-gothic.conf 7 Dec 2009 06:37:59 - 1.2 @@ -1,38 +1,51 @@ ?xml version=1.0? !DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM fonts.dtd fontconfig -match target=font +!-- Generic names rule -- +alias +familyVL Gothic/family +default +familymonospace/family +/default +/alias +!-- NOTE: just for fallback - ideally better installing vlgothic-p-fonts -- +alias +familyVL Gothic/family +default +familysans-serif/family +/default +/alias +!-- Locale-specific overrides rule -- +match +test name=lang +stringja-jp/string +/test test name=family -stringVL Gothic/string +stringmonospace/string /test -edit name=hinting mode=assign -boolfalse/bool +edit name=family mode=prepend binding=same +stringVL Gothic/string /edit /match - +!-- NOTE: just for fallback - ideally better installing vlgothic-p-fonts -- match test name=lang stringja-jp/string /test test name=family -stringmonospace/string +stringsans-serif/string /test edit name=family mode=prepend binding=same stringVL Gothic/string /edit /match - -alias -familymonospace/family -prefer -familyVL Gothic/family -/prefer -/alias - -alias -familyVL Gothic/family -default -familymonospace/family -/default -/alias +!-- disabling hinting rule -- +match target=font +test name=family +stringVL Gothic/string +/test +edit name=hinting mode=assign +boolfalse/bool +/edit +/match /fontconfig Index: vlgothic-fontconfig-pgothic.conf === RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/vlgothic-fonts/devel/vlgothic-fontconfig-pgothic.conf,v retrieving revision 1.1 retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -p -r1.1 -r1.2 --- vlgothic-fontconfig-pgothic.conf10 Feb 2009 11:48:21 - 1.1 +++ vlgothic-fontconfig-pgothic.conf7 Dec 2009 06:37:59 - 1.2 @@ -1,15 +1,14 @@ ?xml version=1.0? !DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM fonts.dtd fontconfig -match target=font -test name=family -stringVL PGothic/string -/test -edit name=hinting mode=assign -boolfalse/bool -/edit -/match - +!-- Generic names rule -- +alias +familyVL PGothic/family +default +familysans-serif/family +/default +/alias +!-- Locale-specific overrides rule -- match test name=lang stringja-jp/string @@ -21,18 +20,13 @@ stringVL PGothic/string /edit /match - -alias -familysans-serif/family -prefer -familyVL PGothic/family -/prefer -/alias - -alias -familyVL PGothic/family -default -
[Bug 544957] VL Gothic should provide Sans fallback
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=544957 Akira TAGOH ta...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |ASSIGNED -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 544957] VL Gothic should provide Sans fallback
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=544957 Akira TAGOH ta...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|MODIFIED Fixed In Version||vlgothic-fonts-20091202-1.f ||c13 --- Comment #1 from Akira TAGOH ta...@redhat.com 2009-12-07 01:44:35 EDT --- Thanks. should be fixed in vlgothic-fonts-20091202-1.fc13. VL PGothic is still used for sans-serif if installed. but VL Gothic is used if not. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
rpms/vlgothic-fonts/F-12 .cvsignore, 1.4, 1.5 sources, 1.4, 1.5 vlgothic-fontconfig-gothic.conf, 1.1, 1.2 vlgothic-fontconfig-pgothic.conf, 1.1, 1.2 vlgothic-fonts.spec, 1.6, 1.7
Author: tagoh Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/vlgothic-fonts/F-12 In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv16170 Modified Files: .cvsignore sources vlgothic-fontconfig-gothic.conf vlgothic-fontconfig-pgothic.conf vlgothic-fonts.spec Log Message: * Mon Dec 7 2009 Akira TAGOH ta...@redhat.com - 20091202-1 - New upstream release. - Set the priority to 65 for vlgothic-p-fonts to override the rule in vlgothic-fonts for sans-serif. - Set the priority to 66 and contains both rules for sans-serif and monospace to avoid picking up the unrelated fonts in Live. where doesn't have vlgothic-p-fonts installed. (#544957) Index: .cvsignore === RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/vlgothic-fonts/F-12/.cvsignore,v retrieving revision 1.4 retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -p -r1.4 -r1.5 --- .cvsignore 15 Jun 2009 11:21:07 - 1.4 +++ .cvsignore 7 Dec 2009 07:01:13 - 1.5 @@ -1,3 +1,4 @@ VLGothic-20090204.tar.bz2 VLGothic-20090422.tar.bz2 VLGothic-20090612.tar.bz2 +VLGothic-20091202.tar.bz2 Index: sources === RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/vlgothic-fonts/F-12/sources,v retrieving revision 1.4 retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -p -r1.4 -r1.5 --- sources 15 Jun 2009 11:21:08 - 1.4 +++ sources 7 Dec 2009 07:01:13 - 1.5 @@ -1 +1 @@ -2ae45ffcaf4fd75331eb582cfee6cc54 VLGothic-20090612.tar.bz2 +db66b71975c6ffc54ca37f0d13451e0a VLGothic-20091202.tar.bz2 Index: vlgothic-fontconfig-gothic.conf === RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/vlgothic-fonts/F-12/vlgothic-fontconfig-gothic.conf,v retrieving revision 1.1 retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -p -r1.1 -r1.2 --- vlgothic-fontconfig-gothic.conf 10 Feb 2009 11:48:21 - 1.1 +++ vlgothic-fontconfig-gothic.conf 7 Dec 2009 07:01:13 - 1.2 @@ -1,38 +1,51 @@ ?xml version=1.0? !DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM fonts.dtd fontconfig -match target=font +!-- Generic names rule -- +alias +familyVL Gothic/family +default +familymonospace/family +/default +/alias +!-- NOTE: just for fallback - ideally better installing vlgothic-p-fonts -- +alias +familyVL Gothic/family +default +familysans-serif/family +/default +/alias +!-- Locale-specific overrides rule -- +match +test name=lang +stringja-jp/string +/test test name=family -stringVL Gothic/string +stringmonospace/string /test -edit name=hinting mode=assign -boolfalse/bool +edit name=family mode=prepend binding=same +stringVL Gothic/string /edit /match - +!-- NOTE: just for fallback - ideally better installing vlgothic-p-fonts -- match test name=lang stringja-jp/string /test test name=family -stringmonospace/string +stringsans-serif/string /test edit name=family mode=prepend binding=same stringVL Gothic/string /edit /match - -alias -familymonospace/family -prefer -familyVL Gothic/family -/prefer -/alias - -alias -familyVL Gothic/family -default -familymonospace/family -/default -/alias +!-- disabling hinting rule -- +match target=font +test name=family +stringVL Gothic/string +/test +edit name=hinting mode=assign +boolfalse/bool +/edit +/match /fontconfig Index: vlgothic-fontconfig-pgothic.conf === RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/vlgothic-fonts/F-12/vlgothic-fontconfig-pgothic.conf,v retrieving revision 1.1 retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -p -r1.1 -r1.2 --- vlgothic-fontconfig-pgothic.conf10 Feb 2009 11:48:21 - 1.1 +++ vlgothic-fontconfig-pgothic.conf7 Dec 2009 07:01:13 - 1.2 @@ -1,15 +1,14 @@ ?xml version=1.0? !DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM fonts.dtd fontconfig -match target=font -test name=family -stringVL PGothic/string -/test -edit name=hinting mode=assign -boolfalse/bool -/edit -/match - +!-- Generic names rule -- +alias +familyVL PGothic/family +default +familysans-serif/family +/default +/alias +!-- Locale-specific overrides rule -- match test name=lang stringja-jp/string @@ -21,18 +20,13 @@ stringVL PGothic/string /edit /match - -alias -familysans-serif/family -prefer -familyVL PGothic/family -/prefer -/alias - -alias -familyVL PGothic/family -default -
[Bug 544957] VL Gothic should provide Sans fallback
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=544957 --- Comment #2 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2009-12-07 02:20:58 EDT --- vlgothic-fonts-20091202-1.fc12 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 12. http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/vlgothic-fonts-20091202-1.fc12 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 492510] Regression: wqy-bitmap-fonts preferred font over truetype fonts
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=492510 --- Comment #67 from Jens Petersen peter...@redhat.com 2009-12-07 02:43:46 EDT --- A fix was made to vlgothic-fonts .conf which may help with this bug. (In reply to comment #66) i.e. on a ps/pdf of a chinese typical web page, the headlines/titles are rendered with outlined fonts, body text are rendered as large overlapping bitmaps. Not sure which font you are referring to? For cjkuni I am trying to get rid of the bitmap rendering. I think it has some fontconfig rules that cause it. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
[Bug 476459] wqy-zenhei-fonts needs lang fontconfig
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=476459 Jens Petersen peter...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Summary|wqy-zenhei-fonts overrides |wqy-zenhei-fonts needs lang |Japanese desktop (so can't |fontconfig |be installed by default in | |@chinese-support group) | --- Comment #43 from Jens Petersen peter...@redhat.com 2009-12-07 02:49:13 EDT --- I am changing comps-f13 to make wqy-zenhei-fonts the default Chinese default font. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Fedora-fonts-bugs-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-bugs-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-bugs-list
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Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Re: sRGB ICC profiles in Fedora
On 12/05/2009 07:50 PM, Adam Goode wrote: On 12/05/2009 05:00 PM, Tom spot Callaway wrote: On 12/04/2009 05:28 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: 2009/12/4 Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com: I have a legal question regarding distributing Abobe RGB ICC profiles in Fedora. Another email about profiles (sorry!), just a different licence this time. I want to ship the official ICC sRGB profiles available here in Fedora: http://www.color.org/srgbprofiles.xalter Suitable for Fedora or one for rpmfusion? Thanks. rpmfusion. It refers to itself as software, but does not grant permission to modify. Not a Free license. Do you think the ICC would be open to adjusting their license? Can't hurt to try... I have no idea, but I agree, it would not hurt to try. Richard, if you want me to send an email (and you can find the appropriate person), I would be willing to try, or you can try on your own. ~spot ___ Fedora-legal-list mailing list Fedora-legal-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legal-list
Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Including of MARS code in cryptopp package
On 12/05/2009 05:06 PM, Tom spot Callaway wrote: On 12/04/2009 01:38 PM, alekc...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi All, There is IBM implementation of MARS code in cryptopp 5.6.0 an it was removed from Fedora cryptopp package. But SVN 479 version of cryptopp contains mars.cpp that was written and placed in the public domain by Wei Dai. https://cryptopp.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/cryptopp/trunk/c5/mars.cpp Can we include this MARS code in Fedora cryptopp package? Well, it depends on where Wei Dai is a citizen. There are many places where it is not possible to put code into the Public Domain. I've sent him an email asking for clarification, but until we hear back, we should hold off on including this code. He's a US citizen, so this code is fine for Fedora. ~spot Thank you, spot. I will build cryptopp svn 479 without removing MARS code http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=143094 for Fedora 11,12 and rawhide when this issue will be resolved https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=544358 Alexey ___ Fedora-legal-list mailing list Fedora-legal-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legal-list
Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Re: sRGB ICC profiles in Fedora
2009/12/6 Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com: Do you think the ICC would be open to adjusting their license? Can't hurt to try... I would imagine they would be very receptive to the idea. I have no idea, but I agree, it would not hurt to try. Richard, if you want me to send an email (and you can find the appropriate person), I would be willing to try, or you can try on your own. The only contact information I can find is askp...@colourspace.demon.co.uk -- If it's okay with you I would prefer the email came from you guys (as fedora-legal) as I would not be sure what to exactly request or how to argue the case for changes required. Thanks, Richard. ___ Fedora-legal-list mailing list Fedora-legal-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-legal-list
Re: Compiz plugins
Le 05/12/2009 20:12, suvayu ali a écrit : 2009/12/5 Eric Tanguyeric.tan...@univ-nantes.fr: Is there somewhere a howto or something like that about compiz plugins. I don't know which plugins are in fedora, which one could be add and how to use it (key combinations). I try to test the water one and i can't achieve to find the keys to use or the keys does not work ... http://wiki.compiz.org/CompizPlugins http://wiki.compiz.org/CompizFusionPlugins Thanks Eric Have fun :) Thanks So according to http://wiki.compiz.org/Plugins/Water to activate it i need to hold down ControlSuper and move the mouse. I assume Super is the window key. it does not work so either the plugin does not work or i have a problem with my keyboard. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Compiz plugins
2009/12/6 Eric Tanguy eric.tan...@univ-nantes.fr: Le 05/12/2009 20:12, suvayu ali a écrit : 2009/12/5 Eric Tanguyeric.tan...@univ-nantes.fr: Is there somewhere a howto or something like that about compiz plugins. I don't know which plugins are in fedora, which one could be add and how to use it (key combinations). I try to test the water one and i can't achieve to find the keys to use or the keys does not work ... http://wiki.compiz.org/CompizPlugins http://wiki.compiz.org/CompizFusionPlugins So according to http://wiki.compiz.org/Plugins/Water to activate it i need to hold down ControlSuper and move the mouse. I assume Super is the window key. it does not work so either the plugin does not work or i have a problem with my keyboard. First you would need to install ccsm (compiz-manager) then turn on the plugins and make sure they are bounded to the keys you want. The keys mentioned in the compiz wiki are the default key bindings given that the corresponding plugin is turned on. I hope this is clearer. Have fun. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: CD drive difficulty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 05/12/2009 04:06, Carroll Grigsby a écrit : I'm just finishing installing F12 XFCE and encountered a problem with the CD drive: When I push the eject button, the tray is first extended fully outward and then is immediately retracted. I'm reasonably certain that this is not a hardware problem, but rather is some sort of misconfiguration issue. I have the same issue with one of my CD drive. I have 2 DVD drives: /dev/sr0:ASUSDVD-E616A /dev/sr1:SONYDVD RW DRU-810A This problem happens with the ASUS drive when I want to eject a mounted CD/DVD Another problem is the SONY: sometimes it is impossible to open/eject this drive. But the problem described here (eject then immediately reload does not happens. When I use these drives, I get this warning in the logwatch report: - - Kernel Begin WARNING: Kernel Errors Present ata1.00: failed to IDENTIFY (I/O error, err_mask=0x40) ...: 1 Time(s) ata1.01: failed to IDENTIFY (I/O error, err_mask=0x4) ...: 3 Time(s) -- Kernel End - When I cannot open/eject the SONY drive, there are messages in /var/log/messages: Nov 26 23:24:40 dipankar hald: mounted /dev/sr1 on behalf of uid 3025 Nov 26 23:24:58 dipankar hald: unmounted /dev/sr1 from '/media/UBCD410' on behalf of uid 0 Nov 26 23:25:44 dipankar kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sr1, sector 0 Nov 26 23:25:44 dipankar kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sr1, logical block 0 Nov 26 23:25:44 dipankar kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sr1, sector 4 Nov 26 23:25:44 dipankar kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sr1, logical block 1 Nov 26 23:25:44 dipankar kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sr1, logical block 2 Nov 26 23:25:44 dipankar kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sr1, logical block 3 Nov 26 23:25:44 dipankar kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sr1, logical block 4 Nov 26 23:25:44 dipankar kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sr1, logical block 5 Nov 26 23:25:44 dipankar kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sr1, logical block 6 Nov 26 23:25:44 dipankar kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sr1, logical block 7 Nov 26 23:25:44 dipankar kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sr1, sector 0 Nov 26 23:25:44 dipankar kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sr1, logical block 0 Nov 26 23:25:44 dipankar kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sr1, logical block 1 Nov 26 23:25:44 dipankar kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sr1, sector 0 Nov 26 23:25:44 dipankar kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sr1, sector 0 Nov 26 23:25:44 dipankar kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sr1, sector 4 Nov 26 23:25:44 dipankar kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sr1, sector 0 Nov 26 23:26:06 dipankar kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sr1, sector 0 Nov 26 23:26:06 dipankar kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sr1, logical block 0 Nov 26 23:26:06 dipankar kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sr1, sector 0 Nov 26 23:26:06 dipankar kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sr1, logical block 0 Then nothing...: the drive is completely ignored whatever are my attempts to open it, I have to reboot. - -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél. +33 (0)1 4286 2145 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAksbc6AACgkQdE6C2dhV2JXQSwCeImaJitkdB1QFXRNUDRdN0Lt3 ujoAnRGP8MkGl9w1B+BFZoGWcMhgLmeZ =Bk+3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: how to list hardware manufacturer?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 05/12/2009 17:18, Steven Stern a écrit : On 12/05/2009 04:27 AM, François Patte wrote: Bonjour, I would like to list the hardware manufacturers for some hardware installed on my computer (namely: cd drives and ram). lspci does not give info about these hw. lshw, does not give the manufacturer dmidecode does not give the manufacturer Is there a tool which is able to do that, or a file in /etc (or elsewhere)? Thanks for attention. smoltSendProfile Select (V) after it starts up to view the hardware list. You can then continue on to upload it to the database. OK, but there are no information displayed on CD/DVD drives nor on RAM. I cannot see differences between this and lspci -vv I could read information on CD drives thanks to Mikkel post, using hdparm -i /dev/sr0 I don't know how to find manufaturer, model and specifity info about the RAM, I can only know the amount of memory in each slot, using lshw. I don't want to open my machine... Is there any way to know these info, from a command? Thanks for attention. - -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél. +33 (0)1 4286 2145 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAksbdgQACgkQdE6C2dhV2JUHAgCgmDBbEVquKEwa9ERdFEZGGAEK 8+cAn0PCjF8m5oHk3TYJKDSj8YiDq3bV =wXPM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: how to list hardware manufacturer?
On Saturday 05 December 2009 03:46 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 17:36 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: Never thought of that! I know the OP would prefer command line utilities but still he can try lshw-gui. It presents the lshw output in a much more readable form. GL In order for lshw-gui to run in needs to load something called gnomebreakpad which I cannot find. Where is it? When I Googled this event the statement was made that the absence of gnomebreakpad is the innocuous result of abrt replacing bug-buddy but on my SMP dual processor system lshw-gui does not display what it should under F12 (or at least not the detail that it displays on my laptop under F11). I don't have F12 on my machine so I am unable to confirm that. Sorry. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Compiz plugins
Le 06/12/2009 09:50, suvayu ali a écrit : 2009/12/6 Eric Tanguyeric.tan...@univ-nantes.fr: Le 05/12/2009 20:12, suvayu ali a écrit : 2009/12/5 Eric Tanguyeric.tan...@univ-nantes.fr: Is there somewhere a howto or something like that about compiz plugins. I don't know which plugins are in fedora, which one could be add and how to use it (key combinations). I try to test the water one and i can't achieve to find the keys to use or the keys does not work ... http://wiki.compiz.org/CompizPlugins http://wiki.compiz.org/CompizFusionPlugins So according to http://wiki.compiz.org/Plugins/Water to activate it i need to hold downControlSuper and move the mouse. I assumeSuper is the window key. it does not work so either the plugin does not work or i have a problem with my keyboard. First you would need to install ccsm (compiz-manager) then turn on the plugins and make sure they are bounded to the keys you want. The keys mentioned in the compiz wiki are the default key bindings given that the corresponding plugin is turned on. I hope this is clearer. Have fun. I installed it and enabled water effects but it does not work. How to know what key is super ? Eric -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Compiz plugins
On Sunday 06 December 2009 01:39 AM, Eric Tanguy wrote: Le 06/12/2009 09:50, suvayu ali a écrit : 2009/12/6 Eric Tanguyeric.tan...@univ-nantes.fr: Le 05/12/2009 20:12, suvayu ali a écrit : 2009/12/5 Eric Tanguyeric.tan...@univ-nantes.fr: Is there somewhere a howto or something like that about compiz plugins. I don't know which plugins are in fedora, which one could be add and how to use it (key combinations). I try to test the water one and i can't achieve to find the keys to use or the keys does not work ... http://wiki.compiz.org/CompizPlugins http://wiki.compiz.org/CompizFusionPlugins So according to http://wiki.compiz.org/Plugins/Water to activate it i need to hold downControlSuper and move the mouse. I assumeSuper is the window key. it does not work so either the plugin does not work or i have a problem with my keyboard. First you would need to install ccsm (compiz-manager) then turn on the plugins and make sure they are bounded to the keys you want. The keys mentioned in the compiz wiki are the default key bindings given that the corresponding plugin is turned on. I hope this is clearer. Have fun. I installed it and enabled water effects but it does not work. How to know what key is super ? Eric Although its usually the Windows key, you can check by running xev from the terminal. This will give you a keycode for the key, but I don't know how you can make sure that is the correct keycode. The other way you can check would be to try changing any of the default key bindings in ccsm, that should let you see whether compiz recognizes your super key correctly. GL -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Wireless weather station
Is anyone running a WiFi weather station under Fedora? If so, what model? And what software? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 12 will not load
On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 07:16:05 +0100, Gunnar wrote: My system works up to the point when the sky-blue screen appears with the dark grey blob in the middle. Then nothing more happens. First thing you could try during a reboot is to hit a key early to make the GRUB boot loader menu appear, then edit the boot entry's kernel line and boot with a removed rhgb option. Where does that end? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 12 will not load
On 12/06/2009 11:45 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 07:16:05 +0100, Gunnar wrote: My system works up to the point when the sky-blue screen appears with the dark grey blob in the middle. Then nothing more happens. First thing you could try during a reboot is to hit a key early to make the GRUB boot loader menu appear, then edit the boot entry's kernel line and boot with a removed rhgb option. Where does that end? Pressing ESC during graphical boot screen is faster than editing the grub line. -- Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de http://www.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: dd question, what am I doing wrong?
On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 11:02 -0800, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 16:13 -0800, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: The problem I have specifically with rsync (or tar, or cp) is that it does not save ACLs, file attributes too well, and so on that I gave up using it. Perhaps the problem in this case is not to use the -a option but to use the manual options to save everything about the files that you can. Specifically: rsync manual: -a, --archivearchive mode; equals -rlptgoD (no -H,-A,-X) -H, --hard-links preserve hard links -A, --acls preserve ACLs (implies -p) -X, --xattrs preserve extended attributes Do you mean that you've tried these (particularly -A and -X) and they don't work? If so, have you filed a bug report? I am not certain that it's a bug per-se, it's just that there are cases, or so it seems, where it is not clear how to deal with the issue on my part. For example, hard links (-H). How are hard links handled on one drive to be copied over to another and is it guaranteed to work? I could not get my mind around this one so I did not want to take a chance. Well, you could try it. Since you're copying to a fresh drive anyway, there's no harm in doing it and checking the result. Hard links are an easy case in fact, and trivial to check. Create file A and hard link B to it. Rsync A and B to a different filesystem, using the -H option. Use ls -i on the copied files to see that they both have the same inode. That's all a hard link is. As for ACLs (-A), what exactly is being handled here and does this work for ALL Oses concerned - do they follow the same standard? WTF? Of course not. I thought we were talking about Linux here. In fact there's been no indication in this thread of anything to the contrary. There is no standard for this stuff across OSes (I suppose Posix might be considered a standard but I'd be very careful about relying on it). We're doing low-level system maintenance here. Don't expect anything to be portable. I am thinking about Vista in particular, so I did not want to experiment on this one either. I wouldn't dream of doing this on a non-Unix system. As for extended attributes (-X), I have no clue exactly what this is. I guess I have to someday take the time to do more research before messing around with these rsync options. This is a particular reason why I am using dd/rescue resizing - it works sans Vista, which I have yet to try. Again, rsync is a *Unix* utility, designed for *Unix* filesystems *only*. If you'd said at the beginning that you wanted to move a Vista partition we could have saved ourselves a lot of time. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: can Fedora's QEMU run ppc guest in F12 x86_64 host?
Andre Robatino wrote: On 12/05/2009 08:27 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Andre Robatino wrote: I've tried to create a F12 ppc guest in a F12 x86_64 host, using F12's Virtual Machine Manager and with qemu-system-ppc installed. It's reading a verified copy of Fedora-12-ppc-DVD.iso from the HDD. It fails with CDROM boot failure code : 0004 Boot failed: could not read the boot disk FATAL: No bootable device. (Screenshot attached.) At least this is an improvement over F11 which would generate a kernel failure instead. Is this supposed to work? The page http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KVM_and_QEMU_merge claims that it is. Were I you, I would take all the virtual dumb it down stuff out of the picture, create a 6GB or so qcow2 device with qemu-img, then run the ppc from the command line: qemu-system-ppc64 -, 1200 -hda mydisk.img -cdrom install.iso -boot d -net nic look at the man page, those may not be exactly what you need for your system. I have found that this works when more convenient tools don't, due either to limitations in the tool or in the doc, or in my understanding. If this works it will point to the need to understand the convient tool better. Good advice, I didn't know how to use QEMU on the command line. I tried making it work in the simplest way possible. The following works with an x86_64 image: qemu-system-x86_64 -hda Fedora_12_x86_64.img -cdrom Fedora-12-x86_64-DVD.iso but the corresponding command for ppc qemu-system-ppc -hda Fedora_12_ppc.img -cdrom Fedora-12-ppc-DVD.iso fails with the error cd:0,\ppc\chrp\yaboot.conf: Unknown or corrupt filesystem Can't open config file Welcome to yaboot version 1.3.14 (Red Hat 1.3.14-23.fc12) Enter help to get some basic usage information boot: I tried creating the .img file in both qcow2 and the default raw format, and both the qemu-system-ppc and qemu-system-ppc64 commands. You need to tell it to boot off the cdrom. That's what the -boot d means. If that doesn't work I'll have to pull down a CD and try it. Also, is that ppc iso 32 or 64 bit? There's a 64 bit qemu as well. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Using USB devices in VMs under KVM fc11 or fc12
Tom Horsley wrote: On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:54:26 -0500 Bill Davidsen wrote: Has anyone tried this, and if so can you comment on the viability of this as a way to control USB devices? My one attempt to use a non-trivial usb device resulted in this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524723 Thanks, another avenue closed. Was hoping to get an easy to use video software running. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 12 will not load
On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 13:41:10 +0100, Joachim wrote: On 12/06/2009 11:45 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 07:16:05 +0100, Gunnar wrote: My system works up to the point when the sky-blue screen appears with the dark grey blob in the middle. Then nothing more happens. First thing you could try during a reboot is to hit a key early to make the GRUB boot loader menu appear, then edit the boot entry's kernel line and boot with a removed rhgb option. Where does that end? Pressing ESC during graphical boot screen is faster than editing the grub line. It doesn't achieve the same thing, though. Removing rhgb would boot without Plymouth. In case something locks up during boot, the next thing to try would be to add nomodeset and remove option quiet. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: how to list hardware manufacturer?
On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 17:46 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 17:36 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: Never thought of that! I know the OP would prefer command line utilities but still he can try lshw-gui. It presents the lshw output in a much more readable form. GL -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. In order for lshw-gui to run in needs to load something called gnomebreakpad which I cannot find. Where is it? When I Googled this event the statement was made that the absence of gnomebreakpad is the innocuous result of abrt replacing bug-buddy but on my SMP dual processor system lshw-gui does not display what it should under F12 (or at least not the detail that it displays on my laptop under F11). I that really innocuous? Ok, I blew it. gnomebreakpad isn't needed and lshw-gui works well enough for me to find out things I did not know before about my machine. In my initial run of the program I did not run it in the proper environment. Sorry. -- === Half a mind is a terrible thing to waste! === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Getting rid of /boot
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@verizon.net wrote: I need to install F12 here at some point, and it sure would be a hell of a lot easier if F10 had enough libraries installed to run gparted to prepare a drive the way _I_ want it and tell anaconda to go pound sand. For instance, why will it not accept a /boot partition specified for more than 199 megabytes? Why will it not accept a separate /root partition? Why will it not accept a separate /var partition? Or a separate /etc partition? I did all of those things with the *installer*. IMHO if you've already decided you need to use gparted before you get started, you're part of the problem, not the solution. -- Marc Wilson m...@cox.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Radeon HD 5770. Is there a better driver than VESA?
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 01:38:39 -0500, wmj...@aol.com wrote: I understand that the Radeon HD 5770 is part of the Evergreen chip series which is not yet supported by the X.org radeonhd driver. Should I try using it just the same? Currently my Fedora 12 configuration defaults to VESA. Installing mesa-dri-drivers-experimental may help. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: BlueTooth in IBM T60
On 12/06/2009 01:41 AM, Marcus D. Leech wrote: I have an IBM T60, which supposedly has a Bluetooth subsystem, but with ... No bluetooth file to send an enable to. Is this a known issue with the IBM/Lenovo T60 laptop? For what its worth I have t61 and t42 with bluetooth and never had a problem with fedora 8 through 11. And I most def see a bluetooth in /proc/acpi/ibm .. are you -sure- it has bluetooth ?? It really sounds like you dont. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Using USB devices in VMs under KVM fc11 or fc12
On 12/06/2009 08:42 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Tom Horsley wrote: On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:54:26 -0500 Bill Davidsen wrote: Has anyone tried this, and if so can you comment on the viability of this as a way to control USB devices? My one attempt to use a non-trivial usb device resulted in this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524723 Thanks, another avenue closed. Was hoping to get an easy to use video software running. I was/am hoping to be able to use windows vm to program a universal remote via usb too ... by the way have you tried virtualbox ? I wonder if it has better usb support than qemu? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Using USB devices in VMs under KVM fc11 or fc12
On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 10:44 -0500, Mail Lists wrote: I was/am hoping to be able to use windows vm to program a universal remote via usb too ... by the way have you tried virtualbox ? I wonder if it has better usb support than qemu? Still not very good though. I have never been able to sync my Palm Pilot via USB through a virtual machine. I've tried Virtual Box and KVM. Haven't been able to use VMWare Workstation since F11 when the kernel modules wouldn't build any more (that's when I switched to Virtual Box). KVM doesn't work unless your hardware has virtualization support, which my dual core Pentium 4 system does not (my Core Duo laptop and desktop at work do have hardware virtualization, and KVM works well on those systems). I plan to try Xen at some point but I doubt if it will be any better. The problem is that the device appears to be recognized just fine, but I can never establish a sync connection. Before anyone reminds me, I am aware that a Palm can be synced with Linux. Unfortunately we have a proprietary calendering application at work, and while the web interface to the calendar works fine with Linux/Firefox, the Palm conduits are only on Windoze, and the Palm calendar is useless to me if I can't sync it with my official work calendar (then I sync my Palm with Evolution so that I have my work calendar on Linux too). This is really a pain for me because this is the very last application I have that still requires me to maintain a native Windoze boot. So every time there is an update to anything having to do with VM, I always try this again but it has never worked. I'm guessing I could set up a VM that has a real IP address rather than using NAT, but the GUIs don't generally support this and I haven't yet learned how to create a VM or a virtual network from the command line. If I did that I could possibly sync to a VM via wireless instead of USB, but this is now wandering far from the original question. --Greg -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Using USB devices in VMs under KVM fc11 or fc12
On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 10:44 -0500, Mail Lists wrote: On 12/06/2009 08:42 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Tom Horsley wrote: On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:54:26 -0500 Bill Davidsen wrote: Has anyone tried this, and if so can you comment on the viability of this as a way to control USB devices? My one attempt to use a non-trivial usb device resulted in this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524723 Thanks, another avenue closed. Was hoping to get an easy to use video software running. I was/am hoping to be able to use windows vm to program a universal remote via usb too ... by the way have you tried virtualbox ? I wonder if it has better usb support than qemu? VirtualBox works for me (to the extent of synching my old Palm Tx) but you have to use the non-free version as the free one doesn't have USB support. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Using USB devices in VMs under KVM fc11 or fc12
On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 16:11 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: VirtualBox works for me (to the extent of synching my old Palm Tx) but you have to use the non-free version as the free one doesn't have USB support. How much does it cost to get a home user license for the non-free version? --Greg -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Getting rid of /boot
On Sunday 06 December 2009 02:27:34 Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com writes: And I was just about to ask what exactly is broken downstream... :-) I've been driving several Fedora versions on several machines for several years now with a custom-partitioned disks (simple setups, typically just swap, / and /home, no LVM or anything such), and nothing downstream seemed broken, ever. AFAICS, it is completely safe to not use LVM if you know you won't be resizing partitions afterwards. And life is simpler if the hard drive starts dying or something... ;-) Did you get selinux working or did you just turn it off in frustration becauce putting thing in non-default places broke the stock selinux policies? I rarely ever put files in non-default places. And when I do, SELinux yells at me, but then it is typically a matter of one chcon and one semanage command to make the whole thing legal and persistent. It does not take any more work than fixing ordinary Linux permissions when putting things in non-default places. And there is setroubleshoot which basically tells you exactly what commands to execute. I can only wish for a similar tool to tell me do a chmod 755 some.file and chown -R myuser.thatgroup /thosefiles if you want to grant access to whatever you are doing. Basically the only thing one can see is a permission denied message in the prompt or a pop-up window, and I have to figure out myself how to fix it. SELinux is more user-friendly in this respect. :-) Of course, whenever I do something like this, I take a couple of minutes to get educated what exactly I'm doing and why. Over time, I learned how to deal with it with less and less effort. Best, :-) Marko -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Getting rid of /boot
On Sunday 06 December 2009 16:41:59 Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Sunday 06 December 2009 02:27:34 Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com writes: And I was just about to ask what exactly is broken downstream... :-) I've been driving several Fedora versions on several machines for several years now with a custom-partitioned disks (simple setups, typically just swap, / and /home, no LVM or anything such), and nothing downstream seemed broken, ever. AFAICS, it is completely safe to not use LVM if you know you won't be resizing partitions afterwards. And life is simpler if the hard drive starts dying or something... ;-) Did you get selinux working or did you just turn it off in frustration becauce putting thing in non-default places broke the stock selinux policies? I rarely ever put files in non-default places. And also, I have never had a situation where SELinux would complain to a custom layout of partitions. It doesn't operate on that layer, AFAIK. Best, :-) Marko -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Using USB devices in VMs under KVM fc11 or fc12
On 12/06/2009 11:11 AM, Greg Woods wrote: On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 10:44 -0500, Mail Lists wrote: I plan to try Xen at some point but I doubt if it will be any better. I suspect Xen is dying/dead and not well supported now ... at least kms is in upstream kernel, and VB has sun (or whoever!) keeping the kernel modules updated. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Using USB devices in VMs under KVM fc11 or fc12
On 12/06/2009 11:57 AM, Mail Lists wrote: I suspect Xen is dying/dead and not well supported now ... at least kms is in upstream kernel, and VB has sun (or whoever!) keeping the kernel modules updated. s/kms/kvm/ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: can Fedora's QEMU run ppc guest in F12 x86_64 host?
On 12/06/2009 08:40 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Andre Robatino wrote: Good advice, I didn't know how to use QEMU on the command line. I tried making it work in the simplest way possible. The following works with an x86_64 image: qemu-system-x86_64 -hda Fedora_12_x86_64.img -cdrom Fedora-12-x86_64-DVD.iso but the corresponding command for ppc qemu-system-ppc -hda Fedora_12_ppc.img -cdrom Fedora-12-ppc-DVD.iso fails with the error cd:0,\ppc\chrp\yaboot.conf: Unknown or corrupt filesystem Can't open config file Welcome to yaboot version 1.3.14 (Red Hat 1.3.14-23.fc12) Enter help to get some basic usage information boot: I tried creating the .img file in both qcow2 and the default raw format, and both the qemu-system-ppc and qemu-system-ppc64 commands. You need to tell it to boot off the cdrom. That's what the -boot d means. If that doesn't work I'll have to pull down a CD and try it. Also, is that ppc iso 32 or 64 bit? There's a 64 bit qemu as well. It does boot off the cdrom (the default boot order is the usual one, which tries the floppy first, then the cdrom, then the HD). The x86_64 version works as expected, bringing up the install screen. I got the command line down to the shortest possible one. I believe Fedora-12-ppc-DVD.iso is 32-bit (sha256sum is 800ef4f121e178dcc9c8dc128825021949abe0d6d029f36cd47e39a4033c3aaa). signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Compiz plugins
On Sunday 06 December 2009 09:45:53 Suvayu Ali wrote: On Sunday 06 December 2009 01:39 AM, Eric Tanguy wrote: How to know what key is super ? Although its usually the Windows key, you can check by running xev from the terminal. This will give you a keycode for the key, but I don't know how you can make sure that is the correct keycode. I've always found this super and meta terminology quite confusing. What keys do you press when you read press alt+meta3+F9 in some instruction manual? Given that some keyboards might or might not have one or more Windows and similar keys present, there must be some table in X configuration files that maps available keyboard layout to names such as super, meta1-4, alt, ctrl and shift. The problem is where this information actually is and how to make it easily available for a newbie. After so many years of using Linux, I myself am still not sure what are super and meta keys on my keyboard. I never bothered to do a serious investigation of this, but certainly, one should not be supposed to use google and read configuration files in order to find out which key is where on the keyboard... Or am I missing something completely obvious here? Best, :-) Marko -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Using USB devices in VMs under KVM fc11 or fc12
On Sunday 06 December 2009 16:28:10 Greg Woods wrote: On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 16:11 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: VirtualBox works for me (to the extent of synching my old Palm Tx) but you have to use the non-free version as the free one doesn't have USB support. How much does it cost to get a home user license for the non-free version? It's non-free as in closed-source and proprietary EULA-s and stuff. It doesn't cost anything, AFAIK. The VirtualBox-OSE (the open-source edition) is in rpmfusion and doesn't have USB support. The VirtualBox (the Sun closed-source edition) is in Sun's yum repository and does support USB. You can read all about it on http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Editions page. Best, :-) Marko -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Slow gnome startup with compiz enabled
Hi all, I've noticed that when starting gnome up for the first time after boot it takes at least 10 seconds before I can navigate the desktop. I have enabled compiz using the System=Preferences=Desktop Effects menu. I have tried re-enabling metacity and that seems to solve the problem. Has anybody else noticed this and possibly found a way to speed up the load times with compiz enabled? Thanks, Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
OT?? Refusal to boot from external USB
My #3 PC is a handed-down Dell PowerEdge sc1420, now running F11, which began life as a server for a list I help manage. (The list is now hosted elsewhere.) I call it BBB (Big Black Beast), since it's so much larger and blacker than any of my others. I also have a Lite-On external USB DVD-RW drive, which the BBB sees perfectly well when it's plugged into it. I can read the files on it, which look normal afaict -- in fact, I have installed F12 on two other machines from the same DVD. And I have the boot sequence in the BIOS set to start with the DVD drive, in order to upgrade to F12 that way. But it doesn't. I'm pretty sure I've installed Fedora releases on BBB before, using the DVD drive (certainly the first one, when the it first came to me). I have previously tried preupgrade on the BBB several times; the grub screen now shows an F11 kernel, then the preupgrade option, then more F11 kernels. When Anaconda starts at all, it's because I've clicked that second (Constantine) option -- and then it hits the dread lack of space, and aborts. Afaict, Anaconda never gets launched from the DVD. What am I doing wrong? Do I just need to get the Constantine option out of there? If so, is it enough to edit /boot/grub/grub.conf? Or do I have to find and dig out everything it refers to? Or what?? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Using USB devices in VMs under KVM fc11 or fc12
On 12/06/2009 09:44 AM, Mail Lists wrote: On 12/06/2009 08:42 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Tom Horsley wrote: On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:54:26 -0500 Bill Davidsen wrote: Has anyone tried this, and if so can you comment on the viability of this as a way to control USB devices? My one attempt to use a non-trivial usb device resulted in this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524723 Thanks, another avenue closed. Was hoping to get an easy to use video software running. I was/am hoping to be able to use windows vm to program a universal remote via usb too ... by the way have you tried virtualbox ? I wonder if it has better usb support than qemu? I'm using VirtualBox (not the OSE version) to run an XP VM that I use with for iTunes/iPhone and a Logitech Harmony remote control. It seems to handle USB well. -- Steve -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Using USB devices in VMs under KVM fc11 or fc12
On Sunday 06 December 2009 16:11:11 Greg Woods wrote: I'm guessing I could set up a VM that has a real IP address rather than using NAT, but the GUIs don't generally support this and I haven't yet learned how to create a VM or a virtual network from the command line. If I did that I could possibly sync to a VM via wireless instead of USB, but this is now wandering far from the original question. In VirtualBox you set this up as follows: * open VirtualBox * open the settings window for your VM * go to network, open the appropriate adapter tab (typically the first one) * set the attached to setting to bridged adapter * click OK This sets up bridged networking for your VM --- it will behave on equal footing as the host OS itself, ie. it will request an IP from your router's dhcp (or whatever your host OS uses to set itself up). Depending on your ISP and local network setup, it should have a real IP as much as your host does, and will be visible from any other machine on your LAN. I don't remember how to do it under KVM/QEMU and VMWare, but it should also amount of choosing bridged networking somewhere in some settings. HTH, :-) Marko -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Poor Sound recording on Intel MB DG965SS
Greetings, Several years ago, sometime during the earlier releases of Fedora, I was able to listen to and record from external devices like my Creative Zen and Sony cassette tape recorder/player; while playing or recording I could hear the sound from the devices on my system speakers. These days, I'm trying to listen and record from the same devices on my F12 Intel MB DG965SS home-built system but only with weak success. I can play wav and mp3 audio files using mpg321 and mplayer from a command line, and xmms and rhytymbox in the gnome desktop. However, unlike in previous releases (upto FC8?), I can't plug in an external device, run it through the line-in line (blue input), and hear it through the system's speakers. I can record from my tape recorder, but with very poor quality; while I'm recording, I can't hear it through the system's speakers, as I did previously. I've tried to review fedora-list threads pertinent to the subject. So far, the one application that has facilitated recording is the gnome sound recorder available through from the gnome-media-apps rpm. However, there is a considerable amount of distortion that sounds like poor grounding. I've used the cables previously with success and there do not seem to be any cracks. Looking at the sound preference setting, the hardware tab is set to Analog Stereo Duplex, the input tab is set to Line-in/line-out and the Internal Audio Device radio button is active for sound input. My MoBo is an Intel MB DG965SS and it has sound built-in (Line-in, line-out, and microphone-in). Any help in this regard would be appreciated. Thanks. Max Pyziur p...@brama.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Compiz-fusion + Dual head Nvidia, flickering cursor and hangs.
On both by laptop and desktop PC I run Dual-head, as separate X screens. In both cases when running compiz-fusion I've had an issue when I loose control of the cursor, and it flickers across the screen boundaries. It seemed to happen about once a day, before I abandoned Compiz. Moving the mouse seem to have some affect on the pointer but not much, the only fix is to kill X. Seems to be fine it I stick to Metacity. I didn't have any issues with F10,F11. I'm using the closed source NVIDIA drivers from RPM Fusion. Not sure what is at fault here, to even log a bug, Nvidia drivers, Compiz, or something else. Andy -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Using USB devices in VMs under KVM fc11 or fc12
On 12/06/2009 12:48 PM, Steven Stern wrote: I'm using VirtualBox (not the OSE version) to run an XP VM that I use with for iTunes/iPhone and a Logitech Harmony remote control. It seems to handle USB well. Funnily enough there is a linux package for that controller too ... (concordance / congruity) tho I have not tried it as I dont own one. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Using USB devices in VMs under KVM fc11 or fc12
On 12/06/2009 10:11 AM, Greg Woods wrote: The problem is that the device appears to be recognized just fine, but I can never establish a sync connection. You can try Sun's VirtualBox. For something like the Palm, that only appears when you hit the sync button/icon, so you need to create a USB filter for it. That way, the VM will grab it as soon as it is created. Another option would be to use VB with the network in the Bridge mode, and do a network sync. Pilot-link supports a USB/serial network sync client. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT?? Refusal to boot from external USB
On 12/06/2009 11:46 AM, BeartoothHOS wrote: My #3 PC is a handed-down Dell PowerEdge sc1420, now running F11, which began life as a server for a list I help manage. (The list is now hosted elsewhere.) I call it BBB (Big Black Beast), since it's so much larger and blacker than any of my others. I also have a Lite-On external USB DVD-RW drive, which the BBB sees perfectly well when it's plugged into it. I can read the files on it, which look normal afaict -- in fact, I have installed F12 on two other machines from the same DVD. And I have the boot sequence in the BIOS set to start with the DVD drive, in order to upgrade to F12 that way. But it doesn't. Try doing a USB boot instead of a DVD boot. I suspect that the BIOS does not see the USB DVD-RW drive as a DVD drive. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Poor Sound recording on Intel MB DG965SS [partially solved]
Apologies, I thought that I had tried all of the options before I sent my request. As it turns out, I had the volume set too high on my tape player and that resulted in a poor digital recording. However, I still do not hear the sound from an external input device like an PMP (my Creative Zen) or a tape player when recording using gnome sound recorder. It is only when I playback that I hear what I recorded (make sense?). Is it possible to simultaneously listen and record at the same time using gnome sound recorder? Thanks. Max Pyziur p...@brama.com On Sun, 6 Dec 2009, Max Pyziur wrote: Greetings, Several years ago, sometime during the earlier releases of Fedora, I was able to listen to and record from external devices like my Creative Zen and Sony cassette tape recorder/player; while playing or recording I could hear the sound from the devices on my system speakers. These days, I'm trying to listen and record from the same devices on my F12 Intel MB DG965SS home-built system but only with weak success. I can play wav and mp3 audio files using mpg321 and mplayer from a command line, and xmms and rhytymbox in the gnome desktop. However, unlike in previous releases (upto FC8?), I can't plug in an external device, run it through the line-in line (blue input), and hear it through the system's speakers. I can record from my tape recorder, but with very poor quality; while I'm recording, I can't hear it through the system's speakers, as I did previously. I've tried to review fedora-list threads pertinent to the subject. So far, the one application that has facilitated recording is the gnome sound recorder available through from the gnome-media-apps rpm. However, there is a considerable amount of distortion that sounds like poor grounding. I've used the cables previously with success and there do not seem to be any cracks. Looking at the sound preference setting, the hardware tab is set to Analog Stereo Duplex, the input tab is set to Line-in/line-out and the Internal Audio Device radio button is active for sound input. My MoBo is an Intel MB DG965SS and it has sound built-in (Line-in, line-out, and microphone-in). Any help in this regard would be appreciated. Thanks. Max Pyziur p...@brama.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT?? Refusal to boot from external USB
On 12/06/2009 11:46 AM, BeartoothHOS wrote: My #3 PC is a handed-down Dell PowerEdge sc1420, now running F11, which began life as a server for a list I help manage. (The list is now hosted elsewhere.) I call it BBB (Big Black Beast), since it's so much larger and blacker than any of my others. I also have a Lite-On external USB DVD-RW drive, which the BBB sees perfectly well when it's plugged into it. I can read the files on it, which look normal afaict -- in fact, I have installed F12 on two other machines from the same DVD. And I have the boot sequence in the BIOS set to start with the DVD drive, in order to upgrade to F12 that way. But it doesn't. I'm pretty sure I've installed Fedora releases on BBB before, using the DVD drive (certainly the first one, when the it first came to me). I have previously tried preupgrade on the BBB several times; the grub screen now shows an F11 kernel, then the preupgrade option, then more F11 kernels. When Anaconda starts at all, it's because I've clicked that second (Constantine) option -- and then it hits the dread lack of space, and aborts. Afaict, Anaconda never gets launched from the DVD. What am I doing wrong? Do I just need to get the Constantine option out of there? If so, is it enough to edit /boot/grub/grub.conf? Or do I have to find and dig out everything it refers to? Or what?? I've found that the only way to get my Dell desktop to boot from the USB key is to turn off all other USB devices. The Dell sees the memory card slots in my printer before it sees the USB key and reports it can't find a bootable device. Turning off the printer solves this. So, try unplugging or powering down all other USB devices and see if the Dell will boot from the external USB. -- Steve -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Compiz plugins + OT keyboard layouts ?!?
Hi; Although the subject of keyboard layouts is moving off topic and should be a new thread ... On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 17:20 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Sunday 06 December 2009 09:45:53 Suvayu Ali wrote: On Sunday 06 December 2009 01:39 AM, Eric Tanguy wrote: How to know what key is super ? Although its usually the Windows key, you can check by running xev from the terminal. This will give you a keycode for the key, but I don't know how you can make sure that is the correct keycode. I've always found this super and meta terminology quite confusing. What keys do you press when you read press alt+meta3+F9 in some instruction manual? It's a confusion you won't get rid of -- it is far too steeped in history and nostalgia. Given that some keyboards might or might not have one or more Windows and similar keys present, there must be some table in X configuration files that maps available keyboard layout to names such as super, meta1-4, alt, ctrl and shift. The problem is where this information actually is and how to make it easily available for a newbie. In Gnome, System = Preferences = Keyboard = Layouts = Layout Options; tries to show the different keyboard options that you have. Along the way, it kind of points to what is Super key and what is a Win key etc. It is not really satisfying as a guide, but it was the simplest demonstration I could find. After so many years of using Linux, I myself am still not sure what are super and meta keys on my keyboard. I never bothered to do a serious investigation of this, but certainly, one should not be supposed to use google and read configuration files in order to find out which key is where on the keyboard... Or am I missing something completely obvious here? A couple of years ago I spent more than two weeks chasing down the real meaning of the various key designations, key codes, keyboard layouts etc., etc. The whole subject is quite arcane, convoluted and prehistoric, loaded with repressed emotional content. It seems to boil down to a quite common rule employed by the scientific and technological community. Those few who truly understand it won't explain it, and those of us who only understand some of it can't explain it. End of rant. If anyone wants to respond, be fair to the OP and start a new thread. -- Regards Bill Fedora 11, Gnome 2.26.3 Evo.2.26.3, Emacs 23.1.1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Using USB devices in VMs under KVM fc11 or fc12
On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 09:28 -0700, Greg Woods wrote: On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 16:11 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: VirtualBox works for me (to the extent of synching my old Palm Tx) but you have to use the non-free version as the free one doesn't have USB support. How much does it cost to get a home user license for the non-free version? For personal use, it costs nothing, but check the Web page to be sure: http://www.virtualbox.org. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Compiz plugins
Le 06/12/2009 10:45, Suvayu Ali a écrit : On Sunday 06 December 2009 01:39 AM, Eric Tanguy wrote: Le 06/12/2009 09:50, suvayu ali a écrit : 2009/12/6 Eric Tanguyeric.tan...@univ-nantes.fr: Le 05/12/2009 20:12, suvayu ali a écrit : 2009/12/5 Eric Tanguyeric.tan...@univ-nantes.fr: Is there somewhere a howto or something like that about compiz plugins. I don't know which plugins are in fedora, which one could be add and how to use it (key combinations). I try to test the water one and i can't achieve to find the keys to use or the keys does not work ... http://wiki.compiz.org/CompizPlugins http://wiki.compiz.org/CompizFusionPlugins So according to http://wiki.compiz.org/Plugins/Water to activate it i need to hold downControlSuper and move the mouse. I assumeSuper is the window key. it does not work so either the plugin does not work or i have a problem with my keyboard. First you would need to install ccsm (compiz-manager) then turn on the plugins and make sure they are bounded to the keys you want. The keys mentioned in the compiz wiki are the default key bindings given that the corresponding plugin is turned on. I hope this is clearer. Have fun. I installed it and enabled water effects but it does not work. How to know what key is super ? Eric Although its usually the Windows key, you can check by running xev from the terminal. This will give you a keycode for the key, but I don't know how you can make sure that is the correct keycode. The other way you can check would be to try changing any of the default key bindings in ccsm, that should let you see whether compiz recognizes your super key correctly. GL In fact, ccsm is not active by default you have to change the compiz-gtk script to enable ccsm (see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=532229) after this water plugin works fine ... Thanks for the help Eric -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Getting rid of /boot
On Sunday 06 December 2009, Marc Wilson wrote: On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@verizon.net wrote: I need to install F12 here at some point, and it sure would be a hell of a lot easier if F10 had enough libraries installed to run gparted to prepare a drive the way _I_ want it and tell anaconda to go pound sand. For instance, why will it not accept a /boot partition specified for more than 199 megabytes? Why will it not accept a separate /root partition? Why will it not accept a separate /var partition? Or a separate /etc partition? I did all of those things with the *installer*. IMHO if you've already decided you need to use gparted before you get started, you're part of the problem, not the solution. I sincerely don't believe so Marc, so I'm going to call your bluff a wee bit. If and when fedora actually gives us a working partitioning tool that doesn't suffer from the entirely false limitations imposed by fedora, I'll use it. But when I move a fedora install with rsync -avc to a drive partitioned the way I want it, and its at least 2x faster when done, then something is very seriously broken in the fedora approved version. And that IS the end of the discussion at this campfire gathering. If you know how to make the 'installer' partition a drive according to your wishes without its refusing to accept say a 400 Mbyte /boot partition, or demanding that /root /var MUST live on /, then please write up a downloadable, printable PDF on how to do that since that data to guide one around the fedora imposed toll gates is not available during the install. Do so, let us know where it can be pulled from and I will gladly, gleefully kill a tree. And should we ever meet, the first 3 are on me. ;) -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The NRA is offering FREE Associate memberships to anyone who wants them. https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/accept-membership.asp Let me put it this way: today is going to be a learning experience. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT?? Refusal to boot from external USB
On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 12:08:49 -0600, Mikkel wrote: Try doing a USB boot instead of a DVD boot. I suspect that the BIOS does not see the USB DVD-RW drive as a DVD drive. I thought I had, but I rebooted and went through everything, line by line. No joy. -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT?? Refusal to boot from external USB
On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 12:46:19 -0600, Steven Stern wrote: On 12/06/2009 11:46 AM, BeartoothHOS wrote: [] Afaict, Anaconda never gets launched from the DVD. What am I doing wrong? Do I just need to get the Constantine option out of there? If so, is it enough to edit /boot/grub/grub.conf? Or do I have to find and dig out everything it refers to? Or what?? I've found that the only way to get my Dell desktop to boot from the USB key is to turn off all other USB devices. The Dell sees the memory card slots in my printer before it sees the USB key and reports it can't find a bootable device. Turning off the printer solves this. So, try unplugging or powering down all other USB devices and see if the Dell will boot from the external USB. Weird; but I tried it. No joy. It just brought up the same grub screen as ever. -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: dd question, what am I doing wrong?
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 11:02 -0800, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 16:13 -0800, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: The problem I have specifically with rsync (or tar, or cp) is that it does not save ACLs, file attributes too well, and so on that I gave up using it. Perhaps the problem in this case is not to use the -a option but to use the manual options to save everything about the files that you can. Specifically: rsync manual: -a, --archivearchive mode; equals -rlptgoD (no -H,-A,-X) -H, --hard-links preserve hard links -A, --acls preserve ACLs (implies -p) -X, --xattrs preserve extended attributes Do you mean that you've tried these (particularly -A and -X) and they don't work? If so, have you filed a bug report? I am not certain that it's a bug per-se, it's just that there are cases, or so it seems, where it is not clear how to deal with the issue on my part. For example, hard links (-H). How are hard links handled on one drive to be copied over to another and is it guaranteed to work? I could not get my mind around this one so I did not want to take a chance. Well, you could try it. Since you're copying to a fresh drive anyway, there's no harm in doing it and checking the result. Hard links are an easy case in fact, and trivial to check. Create file A and hard link B to it. Rsync A and B to a different filesystem, using the -H option. Use ls -i on the copied files to see that they both have the same inode. That's all a hard link is. As for ACLs (-A), what exactly is being handled here and does this work for ALL Oses concerned - do they follow the same standard? WTF? Of course not. I thought we were talking about Linux here. In fact there's been no indication in this thread of anything to the contrary. There is no standard for this stuff across OSes (I suppose Posix might be considered a standard but I'd be very careful about relying on it). We're doing low-level system maintenance here. Don't expect anything to be portable. I am thinking about Vista in particular, so I did not want to experiment on this one either. I wouldn't dream of doing this on a non-Unix system. As for extended attributes (-X), I have no clue exactly what this is. I guess I have to someday take the time to do more research before messing around with these rsync options. This is a particular reason why I am using dd/rescue resizing - it works sans Vista, which I have yet to try. Again, rsync is a *Unix* utility, designed for *Unix* filesystems *only*. If you'd said at the beginning that you wanted to move a Vista partition we could have saved ourselves a lot of time. poc I was being general. The same issue applies to linux when it comes to rsync. If one relies on rsync to keep all the file atttibutes with -a option, there are surprises as I mentioned. I threw in Vista just to make a point that rsync does not work with Vista (or Xp), as you already know. It pays to know what these rsync options do and what OSes rsync works with, again which you already know, but it is written here for those that don't - me included. I learned the hard way by testing it all out so that I know what works and what doesn't. I found that rsync does copy the data on Xp or Vista, but sans the file attributes. At least with a failing drive most of the data was saved when in a hurry. It sure is fast. Getting back on topic - it is dd/rescue that works for (some) OSes and so far it does. I discovered that it definitely works with XP so as long as the partition copied from source to destination is the same partition# - otherwise, one is forced to 'fixBoot' because somehow the partition data (boot.ini) and the partition MBR are not in sync. Vista on the other hand does not work even if dd'ing source to destination, with the same partition#s. I am fighting a battle on another system trying to get XP Vista's boot partition to work where the partition to partition copy are not the same, local or to different drives. FWIW, Dan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Grub timeout ignored?
Hello, I am running Fedora 12, and I have the problem that grub seems to ignore the timeout-value set. In /etc/grub.conf I've set timeout=5 however grub always skips the menu, and loads the first/default entry immediatly. Any ideas what could be the problem? Thank you in advance, Clemens -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
mouse cursor weirdness
Fedora 12, fluxbox (fluxbox-1.1.1-5.fc12.x86_64). Keyboard multimedia buttons (XF86AudioNext, XF86AudioPrev, XF86AudioPlay) are bound to rhythmbox-client. When pressing the button the mouse cursor gets thrown in upper-left corner of the screen. It is quite annoying, I must say. Dont remember such thing on F9 (my previous one). Any suggestions whom to blame (fluxbox, xorg, evdev)? -- regards, Oleksandr Korneta I'm running F12 x86_64 and F10 on x86_64 hardware, should this matter. /The nice thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from./ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Replacing corrupted package
I'm trying to use consolehelper on F10 to move to F11. When I run it it says: Unable to load image-loading module. And it says /usr/lib/librsvg-2.so.2 has an invalid ELF header. I ran rpm --verify librsvg2 and it gives: S.5. /usr/bin/rsvg-convert S.5. /usr/lib/librsvg-2.so..2.22.3 I downloaded librsvg2-2.22.3-1.fc10.i386.rpm I tried yum install librsvg2-2.22.3-1.fc10.i386.rpm but it says: librsvg2-2.22.3-1.fc10.i386.rpm: does not update installed package. I ran yum remove librsvg2, but it wanted to remove 19 packages, so I didn't allow it to do that. How can I replace the already installed and apparrently corrupted package using the rpm that I downloaded? TIA. -- Brian Wood http://www.webEbenezer.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Replacing corrupted package
On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 14:40 -0600, Brian Wood wrote: I ran yum remove librsvg2, but it wanted to remove 19 packages, so I didn't allow it to do that. How can I replace the already installed and apparrently corrupted package using the rpm that I downloaded? TIA. With yum # yum reinstall package or with rpm # rpm -ivh --replacepkgs /path/to/package.rpm -- Jussi Lehtola Fedora Project Contributor jussileht...@fedoraproject.org -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Grub timeout ignored?
On 12/06/2009 03:37 PM, Clemens Eisserer wrote: Hello, I am running Fedora 12, and I have the problem that grub seems to ignore the timeout-value set. In /etc/grub.conf I've set timeout=5 however grub always skips the menu, and loads the first/default entry immediatly. Any ideas what could be the problem? Thank you in advance, Clemens You probably sitll have the menu hidedn. Look for the line in your /boot/grub/grub.conf that says: hiddenmenu and comment it out with a #. Will -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Getting rid of /boot
Gene Heskett wrote: If you know how to make the 'installer' partition a drive according to your wishes without its refusing to accept say a 400 Mbyte /boot partition, or demanding that /root /var MUST live on /, then please write up a downloadable, printable PDF on how to do that since that data to guide one around the fedora imposed toll gates is not available during the install. Do so, let us know where it can be pulled from and I will gladly, gleefully kill a tree. And should we ever meet, the first 3 are on me. ;) This sounds like you've been doing your installs from a Live CD, where your options are indeed quite limited. The installation CD set or DVD includes a perfectly good partitioning tool that allows you to set up partitions and mount points pretty much any way you want, and also allows you to switch to a text console and run 'fdisk' if you need to rearrange an existing partitioning scheme. You do have to select Create custom layout in the first partitioning dialog. The only problems I've ever run into with the built-in partitioning tool is its refusal to deal with anomalies such as partitions not in physical disk order or the use of limit capacity jumpers back in the days of disks larger than what the BIOS would support. -- Bob Nichols NOSPAM is really part of my email address. Do NOT delete it. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Getting rid of /boot
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Robert Nichols rnicholsnos...@comcast.net wrote: This sounds like you've been doing your installs from a Live CD, where your options are indeed quite limited. The installation CD set or DVD includes a perfectly good partitioning tool that allows you to set up partitions and mount points pretty much any way you want, and also allows you to switch to a text console and run 'fdisk' if you need to rearrange an existing partitioning scheme. Exactly. I've never seen any use at all for live CD's, I don't know what Fedora includes in one or even if they include any sort of partitioning tool at all. -- Marc Wilson m...@cox.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Advantages of 64-bit on my laptop?
I just noticed that the CPU in my Lenovo laptop is 64-bit capable. It came with a 32-bit OS installed, so I never bothered to check. Is there any real advantage to running the 64-bit version of Fedora on a laptop that is limited to 2GB RAM? Just wondering. The F-12 x86_64 Live CD does boot and run just fine. I've been running the i686 versions of F-11 and (now) F-12. -- Bob Nichols NOSPAM is really part of my email address. Do NOT delete it. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Advantages of 64-bit on my laptop?
On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 15:32:25 -0600 Robert Nichols rnicholsnos...@comcast.net wrote: I just noticed that the CPU in my Lenovo laptop is 64-bit capable. It came with a 32-bit OS installed, so I never bothered to check. Is there any real advantage to running the 64-bit version of Fedora on a laptop that is limited to 2GB RAM? Just wondering. The F-12 x86_64 Live CD does boot and run just fine. I've been running the i686 versions of F-11 and (now) F-12. Performance - anything above about 900MB is much happier 64bit -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
mplayer stop XScreenSaver ignored
hello list, I am using fedora 11 mplayer version SVN-r29701-4.4.1 (but the problem appeared in earlier versions as well) NVIDIA driver version 190.42 X server version number 11.0 server vendor version 1.6.3.901 (10603901) NV control version 1.20 I have toggled stop XScreenSaver in mplayer misc tab and my screen saver is still running while mplayer is playing in full screen. please advise... thanks, YB. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Recent texlive anyone?
Am Sonntag, den 06.12.2009, 00:40 +0200 schrieb Jussi Lehtola: On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 18:43 +0100, Christoph Höger wrote: Hi, has anybody seen some rpm packaging for the current texlive distribution? Since fedora switched over things look stalled. Have a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/TeXLive -- Jussi Lehtola Fedora Project Contributor jussileht...@fedoraproject.org Nice. You've saved my diploma thesis. Btw.: Is it intentional that installing texlive leaves you without anything usable (fonts, epstopdf etc.)? And floatflt does not work anymore. regards Christoph signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Slow gnome startup with compiz enabled
Am Sonntag, den 06.12.2009, 11:38 -0600 schrieb Dan Burkland: Hi all, I've noticed that when starting gnome up for the first time after boot it takes at least 10 seconds before I can navigate the desktop. I have enabled compiz using the System=Preferences=Desktop Effects menu. I have tried re-enabling metacity and that seems to solve the problem. Has anybody else noticed this and possibly found a way to speed up the load times with compiz enabled? Yep. Same for me too. Since f12, I noticed a huge boot delay (I did not measure but would say 20s). This only happens on my laptop (intel) and not on my desktop (radeon experimental). I am going to test if disabling compiz will help. signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mplayer stop XScreenSaver ignored
On 12/06/2009 04:42 PM, Dj YB wrote: hello list, I am using fedora 11 mplayer version SVN-r29701-4.4.1 (but the problem appeared in earlier versions as well) NVIDIA driver version 190.42 X server version number 11.0 server vendor version 1.6.3.901 (10603901) NV control version 1.20 I have toggled stop XScreenSaver in mplayer misc tab and my screen saver is still running while mplayer is playing in full screen. I have the same problem in F12 with mplayer-1.0-0.111.20091029svn.fc12.x86_64 and Nvidia driver 190.42. It started sometime in the last few months as when I originally used the option, it worked. I'm using the -stop-screensaver option with command-line mplayer. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Advantages of 64-bit on my laptop?
Robert Nichols wrote: Is there any real advantage to running the 64-bit version of Fedora on a laptop that is limited to 2GB RAM? I discovered by accident that my desktop is 64-bit capable about a year ago. I had 2 GB of RAM and fedora 64-bit seemed slow, so I bought an additional 2 GB of RAM and now it smokes. Probably, you will have to install and test. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Grub timeout ignored?
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Clemens Eisserer linuxhi...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am running Fedora 12, and I have the problem that grub seems to ignore the timeout-value set. In /etc/grub.conf I've set timeout=5 Set timeout to 10. For some reason, 5 is too short. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mplayer stop XScreenSaver ignored
On 12/06/2009 04:49 PM, Andre Robatino wrote: I have the same problem in F12 with mplayer-1.0-0.111.20091029svn.fc12.x86_64 and Nvidia driver 190.42. It started sometime in the last few months as when I originally used the option, it worked. I'm using the -stop-screensaver option with command-line mplayer. Sorry, meant to say -stop-xscreensaver. I'm a little confused about the two Screensaver entries under System-Preferences in Gnome for XScreenSaver and Gnome Screensaver (I'm using the second, as I always have, including when -stop-xscreensaver was working). However, I believe VLC disables the screensaver properly. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Can't browse file shares on other computers with F11 using Samba
I have a problem with F11 not browsing file shares on other machines. I can browse file shares on the F11 box from other computers however just fine. When I try to browse file shares, using Nautilus, on the LAN I can see several machines out there and a folder for the local workgroup. Clicking on one of the computers listed I get a message about not being able to mount the location. I have F3, F5, F8 and a F12 box that all seem to work OK, just the F11 box is not working. I set them all up the same. After doing some research using Google I found this isn't exactly an uncommon problem. Samba was removed and then reinstall using yum-extender, no luck. I'm not using DHCP, all machines have a fixed IP, the firewall is disabled, network manager is disabled, IPv4 is the only protocol running (IPv6 is disabled) and SELinux is disabled. Some info I found tends to suggest it's a Nautilus screw up, maybe. Any ideas? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Compiz plugins
2009/12/6 Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com: On Sunday 06 December 2009 09:45:53 Suvayu Ali wrote: On Sunday 06 December 2009 01:39 AM, Eric Tanguy wrote: How to know what key is super ? Although its usually the Windows key, you can check by running xev from the terminal. This will give you a keycode for the key, but I don't know how you can make sure that is the correct keycode. I've always found this super and meta terminology quite confusing. What keys do you press when you read press alt+meta3+F9 in some instruction manual? Given that some keyboards might or might not have one or more Windows and similar keys present, there must be some table in X configuration files that maps available keyboard layout to names such as super, meta1-4, alt, ctrl and shift. The problem is where this information actually is and how to make it easily available for a newbie. From what I have observed, meta usually refers to the two ALT keys, and super refers to the two WINDOWS keys. And sometimes _all_ these modifier keys are referred to as modX where X is just a number. So it could be something like this, mod1 = ALT, mod2 = CTRL, mod3 = SHIFT, and mod4 = WINDOWS. (I might have mixed up the mod2 mod3 though :-p ) After so many years of using Linux, I myself am still not sure what are super and meta keys on my keyboard. I never bothered to do a serious investigation of this, but certainly, one should not be supposed to use google and read configuration files in order to find out which key is where on the keyboard... That is very true, all of this is incredibly confusing. There has to be some convention on what to use when referring to these keys and of course all of that needs to be documented. I wouldn't know where to start looking to get more into the details of all this mess. :( Or am I missing something completely obvious here? Best, :-) Marko -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Compiz plugins
2009/12/6 Eric Tanguy eric.tan...@univ-nantes.fr: Le 06/12/2009 10:45, Suvayu Ali a écrit : On Sunday 06 December 2009 01:39 AM, Eric Tanguy wrote: Le 06/12/2009 09:50, suvayu ali a écrit : 2009/12/6 Eric Tanguyeric.tan...@univ-nantes.fr: So according to http://wiki.compiz.org/Plugins/Water to activate it i need to hold downControlSuper and move the mouse. I assumeSuper is the window key. it does not work so either the plugin does not work or i have a problem with my keyboard. First you would need to install ccsm (compiz-manager) then turn on the plugins and make sure they are bounded to the keys you want. The keys mentioned in the compiz wiki are the default key bindings given that the corresponding plugin is turned on. I hope this is clearer. Have fun. I installed it and enabled water effects but it does not work. How to know what key is super ? Eric The other way you can check would be to try changing any of the default key bindings in ccsm, that should let you see whether compiz recognizes your super key correctly. GL In fact, ccsm is not active by default you have to change the compiz-gtk script to enable ccsm (see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=532229) after this water plugin works fine ... Thanks for the help Eric Thanks a lot for posting this Eric, learned quite a bit about compiz-config from that bug report. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Grub timeout ignored?
You probably sitll have the menu hidedn. Look for the line in your /boot/grub/grub.conf that says: hiddenmenu and comment it out with a #. Set timeout to 10. For some reason, 5 is too short. Thanks for both suggestions. Hiddenmenu is not enabled (in fact I can see the grub menu for a very short period of time), and timeout=10 doesn't change anything. Grub behaves very much like after suspend-to-disk: Showing the menu only short, but loading Linux immediatly. I would be thankful for any hints you could give me :) Thanks, Clemens -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Compiz plugins
On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 17:20 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote: I've always found this super and meta terminology quite confusing. What keys do you press when you read press alt+meta3+F9 in some instruction manual? It seems only third party, very old, web pages ever go into any information about this. Keyboard documentation is crap in Fedora. The Gnome keyboard preferences let you pick what's Alt, Super, Hyper, but doesn't detail what they're for. It also lets you pick what changes layout, but doesn't indicate the manner that'll be done. There's something about selecting third level choosers, whatever they are. And then there's the ever-changing methods of handling keyboards. From one release to the next, I find that certain hotkeys just do not work. Again, I'm back to being completely unable to specify a working hotkey combination to lock the screen. CTRL ALT L starting working in Fedora 9, and stopped in Fedora 11. Any combination I try to set is completely ignored. Likewise for some other shortcuts that I'm supposedly able to set via preferences. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
