Re: Configuring GW to DSL Internet

2010-01-06 Thread Didar Hossain
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Didar Hossain  wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:15 PM, j.halifax .  wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Pleaase help me in configuring FC12_64 as DHCP & FW & GW to ADSL Internet.
>>
>> I have:
>> - eth0 (xxx.39.189.92) connected to one port of the DSL router, eth0 
>> configured with DSN' of ISP
>> - eth2 (10.255.250.37) connected to the local LAN, eth2 configured with DNS' 
>> of ISP
>> - DNS' of ISP are defined also in resolv.conf
>> - named is running
>> - dnsmasq running for eth0 (connected to DSL router port)
>> - iptables running
>> - FW has dns ports (53) open
>> - FW has eth2 (to internal LAN) as trusted interface
>> - Internet is accessible in that box (via eth0), websites in internal LAN as 
>> well (via eth2).
>>
>> >From another box in the LAN:
>>> ping 10.255.250.37
>>    responds normal way
>>> host isp.com 10.255.250.37
>>   doesn't respond
>>   (in the 10.255.250.37 box the tcpdump shows requests coming in port 53, 
>> but they are not forwarded to superior ISP DNS and SUGHUP1 to dnsmasq 
>> reports 0 requests received/answered/failed/retried/sent)
>>
>> My question is: What is it incorect in my configuratins?
>
> Maybe you need to -
> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
>
> and
>
> iptable -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.255.250.0/24 -j SNAT --to xxx.39.189.92

Assuming, you set up 10.255.250.0 as class C - not right, but, people
do it sometimes.

Didar

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Re: Configuring GW to DSL Internet

2010-01-06 Thread Didar Hossain
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:15 PM, j.halifax .  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Pleaase help me in configuring FC12_64 as DHCP & FW & GW to ADSL Internet.
>
> I have:
> - eth0 (xxx.39.189.92) connected to one port of the DSL router, eth0 
> configured with DSN' of ISP
> - eth2 (10.255.250.37) connected to the local LAN, eth2 configured with DNS' 
> of ISP
> - DNS' of ISP are defined also in resolv.conf
> - named is running
> - dnsmasq running for eth0 (connected to DSL router port)
> - iptables running
> - FW has dns ports (53) open
> - FW has eth2 (to internal LAN) as trusted interface
> - Internet is accessible in that box (via eth0), websites in internal LAN as 
> well (via eth2).
>
> >From another box in the LAN:
>> ping 10.255.250.37
>    responds normal way
>> host isp.com 10.255.250.37
>   doesn't respond
>   (in the 10.255.250.37 box the tcpdump shows requests coming in port 53, but 
> they are not forwarded to superior ISP DNS and SUGHUP1 to dnsmasq reports 0 
> requests received/answered/failed/retried/sent)
>
> My question is: What is it incorect in my configuratins?

Maybe you need to -
echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward

and

iptable -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.255.250.0/24 -j SNAT --to xxx.39.189.92


Regards,
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Re: Configuring GW to DSL Internet

2010-01-06 Thread Ed Greshko
j.halifax . wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Pleaase help me in configuring FC12_64 as DHCP & FW & GW to ADSL Internet.
>
> I have:
> - eth0 (xxx.39.189.92) connected to one port of the DSL router, eth0 
> configured with DSN' of ISP
> - eth2 (10.255.250.37) connected to the local LAN, eth2 configured with DNS' 
> of ISP
> - DNS' of ISP are defined also in resolv.conf
> - named is running
> - dnsmasq running for eth0 (connected to DSL router port)
> - iptables running
> - FW has dns ports (53) open
> - FW has eth2 (to internal LAN) as trusted interface
> - Internet is accessible in that box (via eth0), websites in internal LAN as 
> well (via eth2).
>
> >From another box in the LAN:
>   
>> ping 10.255.250.37 
>> 
> responds normal way
>   
>> host isp.com 10.255.250.37 
>> 
>doesn't respond 
>(in the 10.255.250.37 box the tcpdump shows requests coming in port 53, 
> but they are not forwarded to superior ISP DNS and SUGHUP1 to dnsmasq reports 
> 0 requests received/answered/failed/retried/sent)
>
> My question is: What is it incorect in my configuratins?
>
> Thank you so much for your appreciated help!
>
>   
I suppose it would be a good idea to check your dnsmasq.conf file to
make sure the proper interfaces are set.  Also, maybe show your resolv.conf.

Since you said you have iptables enabled, you should make sure that port
53 is actually open.  You can do this by going to another system on the
10. network and typing "telnet 10.255.250.37 53".

FWIW, when asking network questions it isn't a good idea to obfuscated
your IP address.  Probably xxx.39.189.92 is 195.39.189.92 the headers in
your email indicate you are sending from Kwait.

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Re: Configuring GW to DSL Internet

2010-01-06 Thread Ed Greshko
Didar Hossain wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:15 PM, j.halifax .  wrote:
>   
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Pleaase help me in configuring FC12_64 as DHCP & FW & GW to ADSL Internet.
>>
>> I have:
>> - eth0 (xxx.39.189.92) connected to one port of the DSL router, eth0 
>> configured with DSN' of ISP
>> - eth2 (10.255.250.37) connected to the local LAN, eth2 configured with DNS' 
>> of ISP
>> - DNS' of ISP are defined also in resolv.conf
>> - named is running
>> - dnsmasq running for eth0 (connected to DSL router port)
>> - iptables running
>> - FW has dns ports (53) open
>> - FW has eth2 (to internal LAN) as trusted interface
>> - Internet is accessible in that box (via eth0), websites in internal LAN as 
>> well (via eth2).
>>
>> >From another box in the LAN:
>> 
>>> ping 10.255.250.37
>>>   
>>responds normal way
>> 
>>> host isp.com 10.255.250.37
>>>   
>>   doesn't respond
>>   (in the 10.255.250.37 box the tcpdump shows requests coming in port 53, 
>> but they are not forwarded to superior ISP DNS and SUGHUP1 to dnsmasq 
>> reports 0 requests received/answered/failed/retried/sent)
>>
>> My question is: What is it incorect in my configuratins?
>> 
>
> Maybe you need to -
> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
>   
Not needed for dns resolution to work.  (tested).  I will, however, be
needed if this system is to be used as the gateway for the 10. network
to the internet.
> and
>
> iptable -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.255.250.0/24 -j SNAT --to xxx.39.189.92
>
>   
Also not needed for dns resolution to workbut the same is as noted
above.

Ed




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Re: Configuring GW to DSL Internet

2010-01-06 Thread Ed Greshko
Didar Hossain wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Didar Hossain  wrote:
>   
>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:15 PM, j.halifax .  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Pleaase help me in configuring FC12_64 as DHCP & FW & GW to ADSL Internet.
>>>
>>> I have:
>>> - eth0 (xxx.39.189.92) connected to one port of the DSL router, eth0 
>>> configured with DSN' of ISP
>>> - eth2 (10.255.250.37) connected to the local LAN, eth2 configured with 
>>> DNS' of ISP
>>> - DNS' of ISP are defined also in resolv.conf
>>> - named is running
>>> - dnsmasq running for eth0 (connected to DSL router port)
>>> - iptables running
>>> - FW has dns ports (53) open
>>> - FW has eth2 (to internal LAN) as trusted interface
>>> - Internet is accessible in that box (via eth0), websites in internal LAN 
>>> as well (via eth2).
>>>
>>> >From another box in the LAN:
>>>   
 ping 10.255.250.37
 
>>>responds normal way
>>>   
 host isp.com 10.255.250.37
 
>>>   doesn't respond
>>>   (in the 10.255.250.37 box the tcpdump shows requests coming in port 53, 
>>> but they are not forwarded to superior ISP DNS and SUGHUP1 to dnsmasq 
>>> reports 0 requests received/answered/failed/retried/sent)
>>>
>>> My question is: What is it incorect in my configuratins?
>>>   
>> Maybe you need to -
>> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
>>
>> and
>>
>> iptable -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.255.250.0/24 -j SNAT --to xxx.39.189.92
>> 
>
> Assuming, you set up 10.255.250.0 as class C - not right, but, people
> do it sometimes.
>
>   
It is perfectly correct to an A-Class network into C-Class subnets.  I
would say it is done more often than not.

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blueprint modeling software?

2010-01-06 Thread Robert P. J. Day

  just had a request for blueprint modeling software that runs on
linux (fedora, ideally).  i know *nothing* about such software and am
currently googling, but if someone wants to point me in the direction
of some good examples, that would be just ducky.  thanks.

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Re: Configuring GW to DSL Internet

2010-01-06 Thread Ed Greshko
Ed Greshko wrote:
>
>> Assuming, you set up 10.255.250.0 as class C - not right, but, people
>> do it sometimes.
>>
>>   
>> 
> It is perfectly correct to an A-Class network into C-Class subnets.  I
>   
 ^divide
> would say it is done more often than not.
>
>   


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login session timeout on F12

2010-01-06 Thread peter_u
I recently installed a F12 as a home workstation and httpd server on a quad AMD 
system. I want to use it as a workstation for my daily work. I got most 
problems ironed out including playing media files and finding SElinux paramters 
to get ftp and httpd going.

One thing still bothers me a lot. When I don't touch my keyboard or mouse for 5 
minutes the screen goes to sleep and I need to enter my password again to get 
back into my session.

All my research did not bring any progress. I could not find the parameter 
controlling the 5 minutes default.

Any help would be highly appreciated.
Peter


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Re: login session timeout on F12

2010-01-06 Thread Ed Greshko
peter_u wrote:
> I recently installed a F12 as a home workstation and httpd server on a quad 
> AMD system. I want to use it as a workstation for my daily work. I got most 
> problems ironed out including playing media files and finding SElinux 
> paramters to get ftp and httpd going.
>
> One thing still bothers me a lot. When I don't touch my keyboard or mouse for 
> 5 minutes the screen goes to sleep and I need to enter my password again to 
> get back into my session.
>
> All my research did not bring any progress. I could not find the parameter 
> controlling the 5 minutes default.
>
> Any help would be highly appreciated.
>   
Is it OK if I just give you a hint?  "screensaver"

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Re: reboot cycle, no log messages

2010-01-06 Thread Joel Rees
In case someone searching for something finds this thread (or I find  
myself forgetting things I've done again) and the following  
information helps:


I ended up filing a bug, and in the process thought of checking a few  
more combinations. Checking those led me to discover I had /dev/sda 
(n) and /dev/sdb(n) reversed on the partitions/file systems that were  
actually causing complaints.  Specifically, it was not the LVM  
partitions giving me the problems, that was just where the messages  
were making it to the screen. It was me trying to mount /dev/sdb4  
instead of /dev/sda4 (or was it the other way around?) in /etc/ 
fstab . (who'da thunk? especiallly with the zero-length partition  
thing 8-p)


(I left the bug there because the error messages could be improved,  
but my problems are solved.)


On Jan 1, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Joel Rees wrote:

Just before it reboots, it gives me messages about old ext3  
partitions that have problems mounting.


[...]
This is what I captured with a digital camera when it cycled:


/dev/mapper/fc7-7[various]: clean [long list of partitions from the  
old system]

/dev/mapper/fc7-7varwww: clean, 644/516896 files, 27268/516896 blocks
   
   [failed]


*** An error occured during the file system check,
*** Dropping you to a shell; the system will reboot
*** when you leave the shell.
*** Warning -- SELinux is active
*** Disabling security enforcement for system recovery.
*** Run 'setenforce 1' to reenable.
sulogin: error while loading shared libraries: libfreebl3.so:  
cannot open shared

 object file: No such file or directory
Unmounting file system
Automatic reboot in progress.
---
[...]

Setting the passno entry in /etc/fstab to 0 or commenting out the  
entry just pushes the error message back. When a large partition  
at /dev/sdb4, which I use for backup, is the final partition  
checked in /etc/fstab, it gives me


--
fsck.ext3: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short  
read while trying to open /dev/sdb4

Could this be a zero-length partition?
--

and then the messages about libfreebl3.so and the automatic reboot.

yum provides libfreebl3.so tells me that nss-softokn-freebl is  
installed. Trying an erase to re-install it tells me that most of  
the OS and most of the apps seem to be dependent on it, one way or  
another. Hmm.


This looks like I need to file a bug or two. Anyone know what's  
happening here?


Joel Rees



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Re: login session timeout on F12

2010-01-06 Thread Joerg Bergmann
In gnome, look at system->settings->screen saver or about (here, in
german: System->Einstellungen->Bildschirmschoner). I use F11, but that
is the place for many releases, I would guess in F12 too.

Joerg

Am Mittwoch, den 06.01.2010, 10:07 +0100 schrieb peter_u:
> I recently installed a F12 as a home workstation and httpd server on a quad 
> AMD system. I want to use it as a workstation for my daily work. I got most 
> problems ironed out including playing media files and finding SElinux 
> paramters to get ftp and httpd going.
> 
> One thing still bothers me a lot. When I don't touch my keyboard or mouse for 
> 5 minutes the screen goes to sleep and I need to enter my password again to 
> get back into my session.
> 
> All my research did not bring any progress. I could not find the parameter 
> controlling the 5 minutes default.
> 
> Any help would be highly appreciated.
> Peter
> 
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Re: fc12 installer fails with Gigabyte GA-EP45 SATA RAID 1

2010-01-06 Thread Chris Mugdan
Hi Suvayu,

Thanks for that. You are right that it is not true RAID, but it worked
with fc8 and fc11 and I expected it to work with fc12 too. I have looked
briefly at software RAID but did not pursue it. I shall look at it again
when I have a moment but in the mean time, if there is a solution for
the "RAID" controller I have it would be good.

Cheers,
Chris

On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 22:28 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote:

> On Tuesday 05 January 2010 01:33 PM, Chris Mugdan wrote:
> > I am trying to install fc12 i386 on a PC based on the Gigabyte
> > GA-EP45-UD3L motherboard with SATA RAID. It is an Intel chipset. I am
> > using RAID 1 (mirror).
> 
> I believe the RAID controllers in these boards are not true hardware 
> RAID. They are called fake RAID or BIOS RAID, which is a form of 
> software RAID. Under these circumstances wouldn't it be better if you 
> were to use software RAID built into linux? Try `man mdadm' for more 
> details.
> 
> I believe the only situation these RAID controllers are worth the 
> trouble is when you have a dual boot system where the "other OS" doesn't 
> recognize Linux software RAID *cough M$ cough* .
> 
> > Regards,
> > Chris Mugdan
> >
> 
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Re: F12 Rkhunter, Have I a rootkit? SOLVED

2010-01-06 Thread John Horne
On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 18:31 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Tuesday 05 January 2010, John Horne wrote:
> >On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 11:35 -1000, David Burns wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 7:46 AM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D)
> >>
> >>  wrote:
> >> >> This is a false positive.
> >>
> >> rkhunter gave me so many false positives I stopped using it. This is
> >> probably as much (or more) a comment on my character as it is on the
> >> value of rkhunter.
> >
> >Specific tests in RKH can be disabled, and false-positives whitelisted.
> >
> >
> >
> >John.
> >
> _Most_ of the time. Despite some people including me, asking about 
> /usr/sbin/unhide, one of fedora's forensic tools if I read the manpage 
> correctly, no one has managed to come up with a way to add that file to the 
> rkhunter database as a legit file.  So we get at least 2 emails a day mewling 
> about it.  More trouble than its worth if it isn't going to be supported any 
> better than that.
> 
I'm not quite sure what you mean by 'add that file to the rkhunter
database as a legit file'? You mean it is failing the file properties
test? If you email me the error you are getting then I'll take a look at
it.



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Re: How do I get SB X-FI sound card working on Fedora 12

2010-01-06 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 19:56 -0600, John Nissley wrote:
> This in not the case here.  The card is not muted.  alsamixer looks normal 
> and nothing is muted.
> I tried to run pavucontrol and it would not connect. I have pulse audio 
> installed but to be honest I usually un-install pulseaudio because
> it never seems to work correctly.  Audio in linux / Fedora has always been a 
> challenge for me.

To be honest, F12 was the first time I stopped removing pulse as the
first post-install step.
I've got 3 sound cards, and amazing as it sounds, pulse simply works -
and across the board! (virtualbox, KDE, skype, flash, games.)

Back to the subject, is pulseaudio alive?
$ ps -AH | grep pulse

> 
> Another point that I probably should have made earlier is that I did compile 
> alsa-driver-1.0.22.1.0.g2d697.0.g88788 since I thought I
> would need it.

Uggghhh
snd-ctxfi is already a part of the built in alsa package (1.0.21)
shipped with Fedora 12.
I assume that you also did a "make install" when compiling the
alsa-driver tarball, right?
(Giving you a hybrid fedora + source installing)

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Re: NetworkManager vs Cacheing nameserver

2010-01-06 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 21:30 -0500, Mail Lists wrote:
> On 01/05/2010 10:08 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Mon, 2010-01-04 at 19:08 -0600, Mikkel wrote:
> >> On 01/04/2010 06:39 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> >>> I installed bind and tried to use it as a basic cacheing nameserver,
> >>> which in principal just means running named and
> >>> pointing /etc/resolv.conf to 127.0.0.1. However resolv.conf keeps
> 
>I may be stating the obvious or missed it that you tried this ...
> 
>But did you try this:
> 
> In the NM applet when editing config:
> 
>   under IPV4 settings  set
> 
>  method -> Automatic (DHCP) addresses only
> 
>  Then fill in the DNS servers you want to use (127.0.0.1)
>  And the search domains:
> 
>  I do this and my resolv.conf is never touched.

I had tried selecting the method but hadn't actually filled in the DNS
field. It worked for a while and was then overwritten. I'll try it as
you suggest.

poc

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Re: NetworkManager vs Cacheing nameserver

2010-01-06 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 21:19 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 00:26:00 +
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> 
> > It might, in fact it probably would, but it's hard to believe that that
> > is the way you're supposed to do this.
> 
> I'm sure it isn't, but it is easy and it works (except on opensuse
> where the whole boot process comes to a screeching halt when it can't
> write resolv.conf :-).
> 
> If they wanted people to know the right way to fix it, then instead
> of just a comment saying "resolv.conf generated by NetworkManager"
> they would actually put in a comment describing how to convince
> NetworkManager to generate the correct resolv.conf file, (but that's
> just what they'd expect us to do! :-).

Following "Mail Lists"' suggestion I filled in the DNS field in the
nm-applet, after selecting the appropriate DHCP method. After restarting
NM I see that resolv.conf now says:

$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
# Generated by NetworkManager
nameserver 127.0.0.1

which is encouraging. We'll see if it stays that way and isn't
overwritten.

poc

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Re: /etc/login.defs created as /etc/login.defs.rpmnew

2010-01-06 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 06Jan2010 01:50, Marcel Rieux  wrote:
| On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:40 AM, Cameron Simpson  wrote:
| > On 06Jan2010 00:24, Marcel Rieux  wrote:
| > | This message was issued while updating shadow-utils today. The weird 
thing is:
| > |
| > | ls -l /etc/login.defs.rpmnew
| > | -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 1475 2009-11-18 08:51 /etc/login.defs.rpmnew
| > |
| > | I did a research both on the fedoraproject and redhat sites and
| > | there's nothing about what to do with this warning.
| >
| > This normally means that /etc/login.defs was not exactly as it was
| > originally installed.
| 
| I didn't change it. Is it possible that a program changed it?

Sure, though I'd imagine unlikely. It might also be a permissions
change; I don't know how picky rpm/yum is about this.

| It's getting really late, here. I kept the odl file and I'll check tomorrow.

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Preupgrade F11 -> F12 Not Working

2010-01-06 Thread Eric Mesa
Tried this a few times last night with no luck.  Did a preupgrade and
rebooted.  It says "starting installation" then immediately switches to
"post-installation tasks" it reboots and I'm back in F11.  It looks to me as
though it is not downloading the updates given that the whole thing takes
about five minutes total.

I also ran it in the GUI but via the commandline and the last part seemed a
bit suspicious.  It said 500MB needed and then listed /usr as having about
13 GB and /boot as having  I forget exactly how much, but it was more
than was needed for the kernel.

My /boot directory has 244 MB.

I also tried the trick where you fill up /boot with garbage and have it
download the installer upon reboot.  That also failed.  Although, this time
it ran enough to where I could hit next and tell it to upgrade and update
GRUB.  It's hard to see what's going on because when it's done "installing"
the upgrade it reboots.  But I switched to one of the virtual terminals (F3,
I think) and it appears to be having problems finding sda1.

Any ideas?  I'd like to upgrade to F12 to get the latest software.  A full
reinstall is my absolute last option.  I thought about doing a yum upgrade,
which I've done in the past (although not on this machine which successfully
preupgraded from F10 to F11), but figured that if preupgrade is having
problems with sda1, perhaps if yum upgrade can't find it, I'll end up with a
hosed system.

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System shutoff 1 min after yum update

2010-01-06 Thread Robert Moskowitz

I did a yum update this morning; picked up about 20Mb of new stuff.

1:20 min later the system just up and powered off.

There is nothing in /var/log/messages between the yum update messages 
and the start messages.  ANy thoughts and what caused this?  Here is 
what I got today:


Jan 06 08:41:52 Updated: 2:gimp-libs-2.6.8-1.fc12.i686
Jan 06 08:41:55 Updated: krb5-libs-1.7-15.fc12.i686
Jan 06 08:42:28 Updated: 2:gimp-2.6.8-1.fc12.i686
Jan 06 08:42:38 Updated: devhelp-2.28.1-2.fc12.i686
Jan 06 08:42:39 Updated: 2:gimp-help-browser-2.6.8-1.fc12.i686
Jan 06 08:42:41 Updated: krb5-workstation-1.7-15.fc12.i686
Jan 06 08:42:43 Updated: krb5-devel-1.7-15.fc12.i686
Jan 06 08:42:47 Updated: gdb-7.0.1-19.fc12.i686
Jan 06 08:42:49 Updated: less-436-5.fc12.i686
Jan 06 08:42:51 Updated: psacct-6.3.2-59.fc12.i686
Jan 06 08:42:55 Updated: 2:shadow-utils-4.1.4.2-2.fc12.i686
Jan 06 08:43:23 Updated: selinux-policy-3.6.32-63.fc12.noarch



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Re: 36 or 64 bit?

2010-01-06 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 01/05/2010 07:11 PM, Andy Blanchard wrote:
> I'd boot the 32bit LiveCD version and if it sorts your problems out,
> then go ahead and install it, at least until you know your issues with
> the 64bit version are fixed.
>
> The idea that 64bit performs better than 32bit is a bit of a fallacy
> anyway.  There are some advantages, but generally they only come into
> play when dealing with more than 2GB of mapped memory, doing lots of
> math or manipulating large chunks of data that can be processed 64
> bits at a time instead of 32.  For a general purpose desktop or
> laptop, you'll probably not really notice much benefit most of the
> time and the executables are all slightly larger too.
>
>   
Enrico,
While I've been on the 64-bit bandwagon for a long time (15 years),
there are still issues. I totally agree with Andy. With 32-bits you are
essentially limited to 3GB of memory, but if there are driver issues
with both your sound and network drivers, I certainly would recommend
32-bit temporarily.
Additionally in some benchmark testing I did a few years ago, there are
some applications that run better as 32-bit than if they were built 64-bit.

There are, however, some additional advantages of 64-bit systems. First,
there are 8 additional registers available in 64-bit mode. I think you
should see better graphical performance in 64-bit.

All in all, as a desktop workstation, as Andy mentions, you should not
see any significant benefit with a 64-bit OS, specifically in light of
your problems.

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Re: Preupgrade F11 -> F12 Not Working

2010-01-06 Thread Timothy Murphy
Eric Mesa wrote:

> Any ideas?  I'd like to upgrade to F12 to get the latest software.  A full
> reinstall is my absolute last option.

Why?

In my view, by far the best option is to install F-12 on another partition,
if you have one.
(With the enormous disks in use today, this must be the usual situation.)

And in my experience, the easiest way to install is to run the KDE Live CD
(or probably the other Live CD), perhaps on a memory stick,
and then click on the "Install on Hard Disk"
(and choose "Custom Install" to avoid the crazy default installation).

The trouble with preupgrade is that if it doesn't work, 
which is all too likely, it leaves the machine in a halfway state.


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TV over the internet

2010-01-06 Thread Timothy Murphy
I've read lots of online postings about people
who are apparently watching TV on their computers,
but I haven't seen a concrete description of what to do.

I'd love to see a posting from someone who has abandoned
the traditional TV set in favour of the (Fedora) computer.

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Which model raid adapter controll card is good for work with Fedora 12 ?

2010-01-06 Thread Edward S.P. Leong
Dear All,

Happy New Year !
As the title...
Would you mind to help ( suggestion ) ?

Thanks !

Edward.

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Re: System shutoff 1 min after yum update

2010-01-06 Thread Paulo Cavalcanti
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

> I did a yum update this morning; picked up about 20Mb of new stuff.
>
> 1:20 min later the system just up and powered off.
>
> There is nothing in /var/log/messages between the yum update messages and
> the start messages.  ANy thoughts and what caused this?  Here is what I got
> today:
>
> Jan 06 08:41:52 Updated: 2:gimp-libs-2.6.8-1.fc12.i686
> Jan 06 08:41:55 Updated: krb5-libs-1.7-15.fc12.i686
> Jan 06 08:42:28 Updated: 2:gimp-2.6.8-1.fc12.i686
> Jan 06 08:42:38 Updated: devhelp-2.28.1-2.fc12.i686
> Jan 06 08:42:39 Updated: 2:gimp-help-browser-2.6.8-1.fc12.i686
> Jan 06 08:42:41 Updated: krb5-workstation-1.7-15.fc12.i686
> Jan 06 08:42:43 Updated: krb5-devel-1.7-15.fc12.i686
> Jan 06 08:42:47 Updated: gdb-7.0.1-19.fc12.i686
> Jan 06 08:42:49 Updated: less-436-5.fc12.i686
> Jan 06 08:42:51 Updated: psacct-6.3.2-59.fc12.i686
> Jan 06 08:42:55 Updated: 2:shadow-utils-4.1.4.2-2.fc12.i686
> Jan 06 08:43:23 Updated: selinux-policy-3.6.32-63.fc12.noarch
>
>
>

Certainly, it was a hardware problem. Computers worn off, just like us.

There is nothing in these updates that justify the shutdown...

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Re: Enna media center on Fedora?

2010-01-06 Thread Valent Turkovic
Nobody uses Fedora as Media Center?

On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Valent Turkovic
 wrote:
> Media Center support for Fedora is currently really lacking when
> compared to Ubuntu, so when I saw announcement of new Media Center
> called Enna based on Mplayer I hope that it comes to a Fedora
> repository near me ;)
>
> Read more about it here:
> http://gxben.wordpress.com/2010/01/03/first-public-enna-0-4-0-release/
> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Nzg1NA
>
> ps. I would love to also see XBMC in Fedora repositories...
>
> Cheers!
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Re: /etc/login.defs created as /etc/login.defs.rpmnew

2010-01-06 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:06 AM, Ed Greshko  wrote:
> Marcel Rieux wrote:
>> This message was issued while updating shadow-utils today. The weird thing 
>> is:
>>
>> ls -l /etc/login.defs.rpmnew
>> -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 1475 2009-11-18 08:51 /etc/login.defs.rpmnew
>>
>> I did a research both on the fedoraproject and redhat sites and
>> there's nothing about what to do with this warning.
>>
>> Can somebody explain?
>>
>>
> These files (.rpmnew) are created when the default settings/information
> change.  They are also created to prevent over-writing configuration
> files that may have been changed by the administrator of the system.
>
> If you did a "diff" on those files you'd find out that the lines:
>
> # Use MD5 or DES to encrypt password? Red Hat use MD5 by default.
> MD5_CRYPT_ENAB no

I had:

# Use MD5 or DES to encrypt password? Red Hat use MD5 by default.
MD5_CRYPT_ENAB no

ENCRYPT_METHOD SHA512

So, the new file really doesn't change anything since encription was
already SHA512. If the defautl is MD5, maybe I changed this in an
interface. I don't remember.

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Re: /etc/login.defs created as /etc/login.defs.rpmnew

2010-01-06 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:29 AM, Cameron Simpson  wrote:
> On 06Jan2010 01:50, Marcel Rieux  wrote:
> | On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:40 AM, Cameron Simpson  wrote:
> | > On 06Jan2010 00:24, Marcel Rieux  wrote:
> | > | This message was issued while updating shadow-utils today. The weird 
> thing is:
> | > |
> | > | ls -l /etc/login.defs.rpmnew
> | > | -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 1475 2009-11-18 08:51 /etc/login.defs.rpmnew
> | > |
> | > | I did a research both on the fedoraproject and redhat sites and
> | > | there's nothing about what to do with this warning.
> | >
> | > This normally means that /etc/login.defs was not exactly as it was
> | > originally installed.
> |
> | I didn't change it. Is it possible that a program changed it?
>
> Sure, though I'd imagine unlikely. It might also be a permissions
> change; I don't know how picky rpm/yum is about this.

It's chmoded group and user readable, which is not really necessary
but doesn't change much, I suppose.

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Re: TV over the internet

2010-01-06 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 01/06/2010 02:26 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> I've read lots of online postings about people
> who are apparently watching TV on their computers,
> but I haven't seen a concrete description of what to do.
> 
> I'd love to see a posting from someone who has abandoned
> the traditional TV set in favour of the (Fedora) computer.
> 

I've not owned a broadcast TV in more than 7 years. For a lot of that
time, I just didn't watch the stuff.

Since the BBC iPlayer (I'm in the UK) moved to a format I can view on
Fedora (OK.. Flash, so still not ideal! :) I find I watch rather a lot
of TV on my living room PC!

Nowadays, Chanel4 and 5 also have online content I can watch happily on
Fedora.

It's only ITV that is using silverlight or whatever it's called - and
that's OK because all their output is junk anyway! :-D

On a good day, with the wind in the right direction and the gods of ECC
smiling on my DSL line I can even watch live HD content.

Regards,
Bryn.

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Re: Which model raid adapter controll card is good for work with Fedora 12 ?

2010-01-06 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 01/06/2010 02:32 PM, Edward S.P. Leong wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> Happy New Year !
> As the title...
> Would you mind to help ( suggestion ) ?
> 
> Thanks !
> 
> Edward.
> 

-ENOTENOUGHINFO

What sort of RAID card? How much do you want to spend? What capacities
are you looking for? What features do you need? What can't you live
without? What's worth compromising for?

Help the people on this list to help you by providing as much
information about your situation and needs as you can!

Regards,
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Re: Enna media center on Fedora?

2010-01-06 Thread Paulo Cavalcanti
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Valent Turkovic
wrote:

> Nobody uses Fedora as Media Center?
>
>

mythtv?

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Re: Which model raid adapter controll card is good for work with Fedora 12 ?

2010-01-06 Thread Don Quixote de la Mancha
I've had great success with am AMCC 3ware 9690SA on Fedora 10 and 11.
I haven't tried 12 yet.  I have a four-disk RAID 5.

http://www.3ware.com/

The 9690 can use either SATA or SAS drives depending on the cabling
you get.  It is an 8-lane PCI express card.

You definitely would want to invest in the Battery Backup Unit (BBU),
otherwise write caching is disabled, which makes certain RAID levels
very slow.

The BBU will maintain the write cache in the memory of the 9690 in the
event of a power failure, until power can be restored.  When write
caching is enabled, I find write performance to be very good.

There is also the 9650 which is SATA only, and I expect less expensive
than the SAS-capable 9690.

AMCC sold its 3ware RAID division to LSI earlier this year.  I haven't
really been following the developments since then, so I don't know
what newer models might be available.

To be completely fair and honest, I should cop to the fact that I used
to be an AMCC 3ware employee: I maintained the Mac OS X driver for
this card.  But I wouldn't dream of recommending it if I didn't
consider it completely reliable.  I have all of my own precious data
on its RAID 5; I finally set up a home RAID after losing the third
hard drive of my career.

Hope That Helps,

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Re: TV over the internet

2010-01-06 Thread Ed Greshko
Timothy Murphy wrote:
> I've read lots of online postings about people
> who are apparently watching TV on their computers,
> but I haven't seen a concrete description of what to do.
>
> I'd love to see a posting from someone who has abandoned
> the traditional TV set in favour of the (Fedora) computer.
>   
Kind of a broad question such that there are multiple answers

Are you simply talking about watching ones local TV stations or cable
content on their system.  i.e. The system has a TV Tuner card connected
to either ant or cable?

Are you talking about something a bit more complex where they still have
the one system with the TV tuner card, but they are using something like
vlc and streaming the content either to their local lan or the internet?

Are you talking about people connecting with the likes of hulu.com or
www.justin.tv ?

Or maybe evening something like "Slingbox"...use to...but no longer will
work wine.




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Re: TV over the internet

2010-01-06 Thread Rich Bishop
On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 02:48:19PM +, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:
> It's only ITV that is using silverlight or whatever it's called - and
> that's OK because all their output is junk anyway! :-D
> 


In case something non-junk comes on - the STV catchup player (
http://video.stv.tv/bc/ ) is flash, and so can be used with Fedora.


Rich

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Re: Kernel boot problems or is my hard drive failing ?

2010-01-06 Thread Linuxguy123
On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 09:23 +1100, Chris Smart wrote:
> 2010/1/6 Linuxguy123 :
> >
> > Is anyone else experiencing a problem booting ?   Does this sound like a
> > kernel problem or is my hard drive failing ?
> 
> If your drive and BIOS supports S.M.A.R.T, then gnome-disk-utility
> (palimpsest) will tell you the status of your drive..

I can't seem to find this utility in Fedora.   Can someone verify its
spelling/existence ?

Thanks

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Re: Tar oddity...

2010-01-06 Thread Roberto Ragusa
DB wrote:
> On 12/22/2009 09:51 PM, Roberto Ragusa wrote:

> -variable numbers of md5sum errors running on the F12 laptop (for
> example, will run 3 times with same checksum then 1 error); variable cmp
> errors(again, one or two clear runs then a pile of miscompares, then
> again several ok runs);

That is really bad.
If the machine is unreliable, any kind of hard computation (such
as data compression) will have problems.
Maybe the problem is caused by something bad in the F12 distro (such
as new graphics drivers). I suppose you tried the LiveCD on the laptop,
and it looks like F11=good, F12=bad.

> If /usr/bin/ark is fubared, any idea how I can best put it right?

yum reinstall of the correct rpm (kdeutils?).

Try also "rpm -V" to check.

But if md5sum and cmp randomly fail, the problem is not ark.
The machine is unstable, for hardware or software reasons.

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Re: Kernel boot problems or is my hard drive failing ?

2010-01-06 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 08:35:43 -0700, Linuxguy123 wrote:

> On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 09:23 +1100, Chris Smart wrote:
> > 2010/1/6 Linuxguy123 :
> > >
> > > Is anyone else experiencing a problem booting ?   Does this sound like a
> > > kernel problem or is my hard drive failing ?
> > 
> > If your drive and BIOS supports S.M.A.R.T, then gnome-disk-utility
> > (palimpsest) will tell you the status of your drive..
> 
> I can't seem to find this utility in Fedora.   Can someone verify its
> spelling/existence ?

You can, too:  yum search palim

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Re: Enna media center on Fedora?

2010-01-06 Thread Valent Turkovic
> mythtv?

MythTV is overkill for most use cases and too hard to setup :(
There are easier (and for me) much better media center applications
for Linux like XBMC, Boxee and Moovida. Unforutunatelly none of them
is available for Fedora :(


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Re: Kernel boot problems or is my hard drive failing ?

2010-01-06 Thread Steve Searle
Around 03:35pm on Wednesday, January 06, 2010 (UK time), Linuxguy123 scrawled:

> On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 09:23 +1100, Chris Smart wrote:
> > 2010/1/6 Linuxguy123 :
> > >
> > > Is anyone else experiencing a problem booting ?   Does this sound like a
> > > kernel problem or is my hard drive failing ?
> > 
> > If your drive and BIOS supports S.M.A.R.T, then gnome-disk-utility
> > (palimpsest) will tell you the status of your drive..
> 
> I can't seem to find this utility in Fedora.   Can someone verify its
> spelling/existence ?

Its a gui utility.

$ palimpsest

gnome-disk-utility is the package name.

$ yum provides */palimpsest
Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit
updates/filelists_db | 4.7 MB
01:56 
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Re: Kernel boot problems or is my hard drive failing ?

2010-01-06 Thread Linuxguy123
On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 16:48 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 08:35:43 -0700, Linuxguy123 wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 09:23 +1100, Chris Smart wrote:
> > > 2010/1/6 Linuxguy123 :
> > > >
> > > > Is anyone else experiencing a problem booting ?   Does this sound like a
> > > > kernel problem or is my hard drive failing ?
> > > 
> > > If your drive and BIOS supports S.M.A.R.T, then gnome-disk-utility
> > > (palimpsest) will tell you the status of your drive..
> > 
> > I can't seem to find this utility in Fedora.   Can someone verify its
> > spelling/existence ?
> 
> You can, too:  yum search palim

Found it and installed it.  Its a very useful application.  

It was part of the gnome-disk-utility package.  I missed that part in
the op.

My disk is SMART enabled and the utility reports that it is healthy.  I
have a booting problem to look into. 

Thanks for the help. 



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Re: Kernel boot problems or is my hard drive failing ?

2010-01-06 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 01/06/2010 10:35 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 09:23 +1100, Chris Smart wrote:
>> 2010/1/6 Linuxguy123 :
>>>
>>> Is anyone else experiencing a problem booting ?   Does this sound like a
>>> kernel problem or is my hard drive failing ?
>>
>> If your drive and BIOS supports S.M.A.R.T, then gnome-disk-utility
>> (palimpsest) will tell you the status of your drive..
> 
> I can't seem to find this utility in Fedora.   Can someone verify its
> spelling/existence ?

yum search palimpsest

> Thanks

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Re: Enna media center on Fedora?

2010-01-06 Thread Paulo Cavalcanti
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Valent Turkovic
wrote:

> > mythtv?
>
> MythTV is overkill for most use cases and too hard to setup :(
> There are easier (and for me) much better media center applications
> for Linux like XBMC, Boxee and Moovida. Unforutunatelly none of them
> is available for Fedora :(
>
>
>
Without ffmpeg, lame, mplayer, and friends, it would be very difficult to
have anything useful 


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Re: TV over the internet

2010-01-06 Thread William Case
Hi Tim;

On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 15:26 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> I've read lots of online postings about people
> who are apparently watching TV on their computers,
> but I haven't seen a concrete description of what to do.
> 
> I'd love to see a posting from someone who has abandoned
> the traditional TV set in favour of the (Fedora) computer.
> 
I have a TV tuner card with my computer connected to my cable.  It's
great.  I prefer it to having my computer connected to my TV.

But...

I assume you are talking about NOT cable TV, but internet TV instead.

Fedora has an application called Miro in repo for just that.  To read
what it is all about go to http://www.getmiro.com/ .  They have the best
explanation of how internet TV all works. 

I wouldn't download it from their site.  To try it out, look for Miro in
the Fedora repository using yum etc.

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Re: Kernel boot problems or is my hard drive failing ?

2010-01-06 Thread Alan Cox
> If I power down my laptop via the usual KStart->Shutdown means, it can
> take up to 4 restart attempts before it fully boots. 

That sounds like wonky hardware

> It has no problem launching grub and the kernel selection screen.  That
> it does reliably every time.   After that, there are issues.  

If it launches grub the disk is fine (Grub is loaded off the disk) and I
assume the laptop has one disk.

> Twice I will get a back screen with a flashing cursor.  Then I will get
> an ehci -19 error.  Then it will boot properly. 

The EHCI error is from USB so perhaps points to a USB problem.

> Is anyone else experiencing a problem booting ?   Does this sound like a
> kernel problem or is my hard drive failing ? 

If a soft reboot fails but a hard reboot (reset button held down) works
I'd suspect its something hardware related not getting properly
shutdown/restarting etc.

For diagnostics boot with "verbose norhgb" that should spew lots of
messages and not hide it all with the graphical stuff - meaning you can
actually see what is going on. See where that hangs.

You could also see if reboot=acpi helps. That changes the way the reboot
is done and might be better for modern machines. Len Brown is currently
collecting data on making this a default so your box may be a useful data
point.

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Re: fc12 installer fails with Gigabyte GA-EP45 SATA RAID 1

2010-01-06 Thread Suvayu Ali

Hi Chris,

On Wednesday 06 January 2010 01:45 AM, Chris Mugdan wrote:

On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 22:28 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote:


On Tuesday 05 January 2010 01:33 PM, Chris Mugdan wrote:

I am trying to install fc12 i386 on a PC based on the Gigabyte
GA-EP45-UD3L motherboard with SATA RAID. It is an Intel chipset. I am
using RAID 1 (mirror).


I believe the RAID controllers in these boards are not true hardware
RAID. They are called fake RAID or BIOS RAID, which is a form of
software RAID. Under these circumstances wouldn't it be better if you
were to use software RAID built into linux? Try `man mdadm' for more
details.

I believe the only situation these RAID controllers are worth the
trouble is when you have a dual boot system where the "other OS" doesn't
recognize Linux software RAID *cough M$ cough* .


Thanks for that. You are right that it is not true RAID, but it worked
with fc8 and fc11 and I expected it to work with fc12 too. I have looked
briefly at software RAID but did not pursue it. I shall look at it again
when I have a moment but in the mean time, if there is a solution for
the "RAID" controller I have it would be good.



I'm just guessing here, you can try a BIOS update. But like you the last 
time I tried these on-board "RAID controllers" was with F8. Sorry 
couldn't be of much help.



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Re: Which model raid adapter controll card is good for work with Fedora 12 ?

2010-01-06 Thread Alan Cox
> To be completely fair and honest, I should cop to the fact that I used
> to be an AMCC 3ware employee:

I'm not a 3ware employee and I'd second that recommendation *if* you want
to go for something with battery backup and some oompf. If you just want
low end raid (ie 'I'm sick of disks dying' raid mirroring) then on a PCI
express box there probably isn't any point getting hardware assisted raid
of any kind.

A modern PC is rather good at doing RAID in software and PCI Express
fixes the main bottleneck of RAID1 in software. Its also generally true
that a desktop PC has lots and lots of spare CPU cycles to use for RAID
work.

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Re: Best way to get minimal system

2010-01-06 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 04:05:18PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> Paul W. Frields wrote:
> >On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 12:28:55AM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> >>On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 09:22 +1100, Chris Smart wrote:
> >>>Hi all, what's the best way to get a minimal Fedora system?
> >>What do you mean by minimal?
> >
> >If you mean just the base system kernel, libraries, and yum and its
> >dependencies, and you don't want to use kickstart to do it, you can
> >get a reasonable facsimile by installing from the netinstall ISO and
> >deselecting every package group.
> >
> >You need to do this with the "Customize selection" option, rather than
> >simply turning off the small number of extra capabilities shown on the
> >general users screen.  If you leave something selected behind the
> >scenes, its dependencies will bring in a lot of non-minimal stuff.
> >
> >The result is about 200 packages (a few hundred MB, depending on how
> >you count exactly) installed, and a text/CLI only system.  You'll need
> >to configure the network with system-config-network (since there's no
> >NetworkManager available) and then you can go to town. :-)
> >
> I think I remember a click box for "minimal system" install, which
> was a good idea for this.
> 
> Suggestion: This would be a great option to have at the start of a
> custom installation, to uncheck everything for the user, who could
> then install the minimal things needed from there. In other words,
> it would be a starting point, not "this is all I want" option.
> 
> On servers it is sometimes useful to have a few X applications to be
> run to a server on remote machines withut a local server and the tom
> of cruft that entails.

This is occasionally suggested and the fact is that the vast majority
of the small proportion of people who need that option in a graphical
installer can already do it with the text mode installer (where
minimal is the default), or use kickstart.  For the vast majority of
users it's not very useful, and potentially confusing.

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Re: Network Audio

2010-01-06 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 04:33:28PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> I would love to just use one system for sound and let other systems
> send audio to it. Is network audio a reasonable solution?
> Suggestions if not?
> 
> Assume having multiple systems using the same server is not an
> issue, coordination is possible, overlap is acceptable.

I do this in my home office with PulseAudio's network capabilities.
Works like a champ.

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Re: TV over the internet

2010-01-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 06 January 2010, Timothy Murphy wrote:
>I've read lots of online postings about people
>who are apparently watching TV on their computers,
>but I haven't seen a concrete description of what to do.
>
>I'd love to see a posting from someone who has abandoned
>the traditional TV set in favour of the (Fedora) computer.
>
I can occasionally make kaffiene work here, but it doesn't scan for active 
channels very well, nor can you expect it to change channels without either 
locking up, or going away but leaving background stuff running that you have 
to kill by hand before you can restart it.  It seems to be suffering from 
neglect and really should be replaced by something that works like tvtime 
used to.

tvtime used to Just Work(TM) but its ntsc only, and we have very few, mostly 
low power translators left that are broadcasting in Never Twice Same Color.

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Boxee media center on Fedora!

2010-01-06 Thread Valent Turkovic
http://phospher.com/index.php/Boxee

Try out this fabulous media center on Fedora!

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Re: Enna media center on Fedora?

2010-01-06 Thread Valent Turkovic
> Without ffmpeg, lame, mplayer, and friends, it would be very difficult to
> have anything useful 

Well most multimedia apps are split so that "clean" packages are in
Fedora and "dirty" packages are in RPM Fusion repo...

I install Audacious from Fedora repo but I get codecs for it from RPM
Fusion repo... it's not a perfect solution but it works.


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Any linux-based microSD utilities?

2010-01-06 Thread Max Pyziur
Greetings,

I have a Kingston 4GB microSD card in my cellphone. I use a microSD USB
reader to move files to and from the card (pdfs, mp3s, etc). I tend to
move it between phones and computers a fair amount.

It seems that the card has failed and does not auto-mount properly on
either my desktop or laptop, both of which run F12, or on my phone now.

However, reviewing /var/log/messages I see that the relevant daemons sense
the card and create a block device (/dev/sdb or /dev/sdc depending on the
machine) when I use the USB reader and insert it into a USB port. However,
the device doesn't automount, nor can I mount it from root.

If the card has failed, I'd like to try and recover whatever data I can.

Can the card be made useable again through some sort of formatting utility?

Any guidance would be appreciated.

Thanks!

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vmware workstation 7 on 64-bit fedora 12?

2010-01-06 Thread Robert P. J. Day

  is anyone out there running vmware WS 7 on fedora 12?  any gotchas i
should know about?  i'm downloading the full x86_64 bundle of vmware
WS as we speak, but some googling turned up stuff like this:

http://osdir.com/ml/fedora-test-list/2009-10/msg00618.html

which doesn't give me the warm fuzzies.  so ... thoughts?  directions?
warnings?

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Latest updates broke KDE sound

2010-01-06 Thread LPM
I just updated two systems.  They use different hardware, but I run
primarily KDE in both.  One system updated and sound worked fine.  The
second system lost sound in KDE.  I can delete ~/.pulse and .pulse-cookie,
log out, log in and have sound for that session.  I can play music, get
system sounds, etc.  Once I log out, and back in, no sound.  I can tap on
the microphone and hear that in the speakers.  I can run
aplay /usr/share/sounds/purple/login.wav and hear that.  If I log out of
KDE and into GNOME, I can run any application with sound and they work
fine.  All sound worked fine prior to today's updates, which included the
latest pulse updates.

lspci:

00:05.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2)


I checked alsamixer and nothing is muted.  Checked Pulse Audio Volume
Control and everything looks OK there.  Again, I want to emphasize that
(other than no login sounds in GNOME, which I believe is a known issue)
all the applications play sounds fine in GNOME.  I have rebooted several
times.  No change to KDE.  Switch back and forth with KDE, and GNOME,
everything is fine in GNOME, but no login/logout sounds, or system sounds,
or application sounds in KDE.

Since sound is fine in GNOME, I would guess that it is some sort of
configuration problem in KDE.  Although I try to set up both my systems,
to be indentical, within the constraints of the hardware, and sound is fine
in KDE on the other system.

If anyone has an idea what I can try next, please let me know.  Meanwhile,
I can at least run in GNOME.

Thank you for any help.

Lloyd



  

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RE: vmware workstation 7 on 64-bit fedora 12?

2010-01-06 Thread Dan Burkland
I'm running it just fine on my installation of Fedora 12 x86_64. When I 
installed my custom kernel (2.6.32.2), I had to do a bit of tinkering to get 
the network & vmci modules to compile/install. You shouldn't have any problems 
though with the stock Fedora kernels.

Regards,

Dan 


> -Original Message-
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> boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Robert P. J. Day
> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 12:10 PM
> To: Fedora List
> Subject: vmware workstation 7 on 64-bit fedora 12?
> 
> 
>   is anyone out there running vmware WS 7 on fedora 12?  any gotchas i
> should know about?  i'm downloading the full x86_64 bundle of vmware
> WS as we speak, but some googling turned up stuff like this:
> 
> http://osdir.com/ml/fedora-test-list/2009-10/msg00618.html
> 
> which doesn't give me the warm fuzzies.  so ... thoughts?  directions?
> warnings?
> 
> rday
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Re: Enna media center on Fedora?

2010-01-06 Thread Eric Tanguy

Le 06/01/2010 16:46, Valent Turkovic a écrit :

mythtv?
 

MythTV is overkill for most use cases and too hard to setup :(
There are easier (and for me) much better media center applications
for Linux like XBMC, Boxee and Moovida. Unforutunatelly none of them
is available for Fedora :(


   

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Re: Enna media center on Fedora?

2010-01-06 Thread Eric Tanguy

Le 06/01/2010 18:26, Valent Turkovic a écrit :

Without ffmpeg, lame, mplayer, and friends, it would be very difficult to
have anything useful 
 

Well most multimedia apps are split so that "clean" packages are in
Fedora and "dirty" packages are in RPM Fusion repo...

I install Audacious from Fedora repo but I get codecs for it from RPM
Fusion repo... it's not a perfect solution but it works.


   

I tried to build enna but the problem is :
No package 'eina-0' found
Requested 'eet >= 1.2.2' but version of eet is 1.1.0
Requested 'evas >= 0.9.9.063' but version of evas is 0.9.9.050
Requested 'ecore >= 0.9.9.063' but version of ecore is 0.9.9.050
Requested 'ecore-evas >= 0.9.9.063' but version of ecore-evas is 0.9.9.050
Requested 'ecore-txt >= 0.9.9.063' but version of ecore-txt is 0.9.9.050
Requested 'ecore-file >= 0.9.9.063' but version of ecore-file is 0.9.9.050
Requested 'ecore-ipc >= 0.9.9.063' but version of ecore-ipc is 0.9.9.050
Requested 'embryo >= 0.9.9.063' but version of embryo is 0.9.9.050
Requested 'edje >= 0.9.93.063' but version of edje is 0.9.9.050
No package 'elementary' found

I don't find some packages and some are too old ...

Eric

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Re: Network Audio

2010-01-06 Thread Greg Woods
On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 12:00 -0500, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 04:33:28PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> > I would love to just use one system for sound and let other systems
> > send audio to it. 

> I do this in my home office with PulseAudio's network capabilities.

I have some interest in this too. How is this accessed and configured? I
am using Fedora 12 with GNOME. Is there a GUI or does this require
editing a config file?

Right now I am getting two machines using one set of speakers via audio
Y-cables, but it definitely has a negative effect on the sound quality.

What I really need is a way for old apps that are not PulseAudio-aware
to work along with using PulseAudio. I presume that isn't possible? I
have had to remove PulseAudio from most of my desktops for this reason.

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Re: 36 or 64 bit?

2010-01-06 Thread Enrico Indiogine
Hi all!

On the HP G60 I have 3 GBytes of RAM installed.  I will remember your
advise about expanding to 4 GB.

I am now performing the 32-bit installation.

Thanks,
Henri-Paul

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setting up a docbook 5.0 toolchain on fedora 12?

2010-01-06 Thread Robert P. J. Day

  not sure if i asked about this once upon a time, but for a current
project, i'd like to document what it takes to construct a full
docbook 5.0 processing toolchain on fedora 12.  i did something like
this way back when but that was with docbook 4.x, and the tools have
definitely changed since then.

  what i want is the *minimal* set of packages and setup to take
docbook 5.0 input, and generate any of HTML/PS/PDF/others.  by
"minimal", i mean that i have no interest in working with docbook 4.x,
or having anything to do with SGML, only XML.  ideally, i'd like to
work with XSLT 2.0 as well.  you get the idea -- cutting edge stuff,
no interest in legacy or backward compatibility.

  i already know some of the packages i must/should(?) install:

  * libxml2 (for xmllint and xmlcatalog)
  * libxslt (for xsltproc)
  * any docbook5* packages
  * fop for PDF
  * saxon or xalan packages

  has anyone gone through this exercise already?

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Re: System shutoff 1 min after yum update

2010-01-06 Thread Hiisi
2010/1/6 Paulo Cavalcanti :
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Robert Moskowitz 
> wrote:
>>
>> I did a yum update this morning; picked up about 20Mb of new stuff.
>>
>> 1:20 min later the system just up and powered off.
>>
>> There is nothing in /var/log/messages between the yum update messages and
>> the start messages.  ANy thoughts and what caused this?  Here is what I got
>> today:
>>
<--SNIP-->
>>
>>
>
>
> Certainly, it was a hardware problem. Computers worn off, just like us.

Speak for yourself!

>
> There is nothing in these updates that justify the shutdown...
>
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I always suspect motherboard at such cases. I saw similar behaviour 3
times and each time it was broken motherboard.
Just my 0.02 rubles...
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RE: vmware workstation 7 on 64-bit fedora 12?

2010-01-06 Thread John Austin
On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 12:39 -0600, Dan Burkland wrote:
> I'm running it just fine on my installation of Fedora 12 x86_64. When I 
> installed my custom kernel (2.6.32.2),

>  I had to do a bit of tinkering to get the network & vmci modules to 
> compile/install. 

> You shouldn't have any problems though with the stock Fedora kernels.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Dan 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
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> > boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Robert P. J. Day
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 12:10 PM
> > To: Fedora List
> > Subject: vmware workstation 7 on 64-bit fedora 12?
> > 
> > 
> >   is anyone out there running vmware WS 7 on fedora 12?  any gotchas i
> > should know about?  i'm downloading the full x86_64 bundle of vmware
> > WS as we speak, but some googling turned up stuff like this:
> > 
> > http://osdir.com/ml/fedora-test-list/2009-10/msg00618.html
> > 
> > which doesn't give me the warm fuzzies.  so ... thoughts?  directions?
> > warnings?
> > 
> > rday
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Hi

Yes running WS 7.0.0 fine on fully updated F12
w2k pro and Windows 7 pro clients

I would be very interested in the tweaks needed for 2.6.32 kernel

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Re: TV over the internet

2010-01-06 Thread Timothy Murphy
Ed Greshko wrote:

>> I've read lots of online postings about people
>> who are apparently watching TV on their computers,
>> but I haven't seen a concrete description of what to do.
>>
>> I'd love to see a posting from someone who has abandoned
>> the traditional TV set in favour of the (Fedora) computer.
>>   
> Kind of a broad question such that there are multiple answers

Thanks for your response.
To clarify my query, I was not asking about TV cards in the computer.
 
> Are you simply talking about watching ones local TV stations or cable
> content on their system.  i.e. The system has a TV Tuner card connected
> to either ant or cable?
> 
> Are you talking about something a bit more complex where they still have
> the one system with the TV tuner card, but they are using something like
> vlc and streaming the content either to their local lan or the internet?

> Are you talking about people connecting with the likes of hulu.com or
> www.justin.tv ?

I looked at these (well, hulu.com seems restricted to the US),
but they both seem to be offering videos on line, rather than TV.

> Or maybe evening something like "Slingbox"...use to...but no longer will
> work wine.

I have actually tried Slingbox, but not with great success.

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Flash Problem

2010-01-06 Thread Marcel Rieux
Suddenly, Flash at YouTube and elsewhere stopped playing. I cleaned
/tmp, checked if javascript was enabled, I installed some new flash
packages, but not devel and gnash, tried the former kernel(1), all to
no avail.

(1) I received kernel warning after I rebooted.

The Black screen with controls appear, the controls disappear, the
screen becomes white, the download seems hesitant. No video.

Suggestions?

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Re: TV over the internet

2010-01-06 Thread Timothy Murphy
Rich Bishop wrote:

> In case something non-junk comes on - the STV catchup player (
> http://video.stv.tv/bc/ ) is flash, and so can be used with Fedora.

Thanks, that looks interesting ...

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Re: Latest updates broke KDE sound

2010-01-06 Thread Rex Dieter
LPM wrote:

> I just updated two systems.  They use different hardware, but I run
> primarily KDE in both.  One system updated and sound worked fine.  The
> second system lost sound in KDE.  I can delete ~/.pulse and .pulse-cookie,
> log out, log in and have sound for that session.  I can play music, get
> system sounds, etc.  Once I log out, and back in, no sound.  I can tap on
> the microphone and hear that in the speakers.  I can run
> aplay /usr/share/sounds/purple/login.wav and hear that.  If I log out of
> KDE and into GNOME, I can run any application with sound and they work
> fine.  All sound worked fine prior to today's updates, which included the
> latest pulse updates.

for giggles, you can try swapping phonon backends to see if that helps you 
any.

systemsettings -> multimedia (backends tab).

On f12, both xine and gstreamer backends should be freely switchable and 
functional these days.

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Re: Latest updates broke KDE sound

2010-01-06 Thread LPM
First let me apologize for not doing a direct reply to your email.  I don't
seem to be getting the mail forwarded from the list, even though I
re-enabled it in my profile.  So I'm hacking this to your reply.

NOW, let me express my sincere appreciation to you for solving my problem.
I don't know why Xine backend no longer works, but gstreamer fixed it.  I
added this problem to BZ #551496.  I'll update that bug, with your
solution.  I have checked the other machine and it has Xine as the backend.

Maybe after another set of updates, either to KDE or pulse, I will try 
switching it back.  Even after 20 years of *NIX, and 10 of Linux, I keep
learning.  I don't mind the occasional problems, as long as there is a
solution.  Gotta love Linux!

Thank you again,

Lloyd



  

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Re: Fedora 11 openvpn

2010-01-06 Thread Frank Cox

On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 16:37 -0600, Frank Cox wrote:
> Does anyone know of any problems regarding Fedora 11 and openvpn?

For anyone who's interested in the resolution of this problem, it turned
out to be a Netgear router that doesn't pay attention to its static
routes and sends packets off into nowhere instead of to the VPN tunnel.
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Re: /etc/login.defs created as /etc/login.defs.rpmnew

2010-01-06 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 06Jan2010 09:41, Marcel Rieux  wrote:
| > | > This normally means that /etc/login.defs was not exactly as it was
| > | > originally installed.
| > | I didn't change it. Is it possible that a program changed it?
| > Sure, though I'd imagine unlikely. It might also be a permissions
| > change; I don't know how picky rpm/yum is about this.
| 
| It's chmoded group and user readable, which is not really necessary
| but doesn't change much, I suppose.

rpm has some "verify" options. See the VERIFY OPTIONS section of "man
rpm". Run it against login.defs and see what's different.
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RE: vmware workstation 7 on 64-bit fedora 12?

2010-01-06 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 20:02 +, John Austin wrote: 
> On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 12:39 -0600, Dan Burkland wrote:
> > I'm running it just fine on my installation of Fedora 12 x86_64. When I 
> > installed my custom kernel (2.6.32.2),
> 
> >  I had to do a bit of tinkering to get the network & vmci modules to 
> > compile/install. 
> 
> > You shouldn't have any problems though with the stock Fedora kernels.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Dan 
> > 
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-
> > > boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Robert P. J. Day
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 12:10 PM
> > > To: Fedora List
> > > Subject: vmware workstation 7 on 64-bit fedora 12?
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   is anyone out there running vmware WS 7 on fedora 12?  any gotchas i
> > > should know about?  i'm downloading the full x86_64 bundle of vmware
> > > WS as we speak, but some googling turned up stuff like this:
> > > 
> > > http://osdir.com/ml/fedora-test-list/2009-10/msg00618.html
> > > 
> > > which doesn't give me the warm fuzzies.  so ... thoughts?  directions?
> > > warnings?
> > > 
> > > rday
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> Hi
> 
> Yes running WS 7.0.0 fine on fully updated F12
> w2k pro and Windows 7 pro clients
> 
> I would be very interested in the tweaks needed for 2.6.32 kernel

Don't know about that yet, but it's working for me out of the box on
up-to-date F12.  I had some problem getting my dual-boot WinXP to run
virtually, but I can help with that now, if you need it.

What I can't seem to do is run vmplayer.  I have no idea what that's
about.  It starts normally, opens a window, then just exits.  No
crashes, no relevant messages.  Not sure what that's about yet.

> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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yum - file conflicts when updating from i?86 to x86_64

2010-01-06 Thread Bill McGonigle

Hi, all,

I had an interesting time updating a machine from i686 to x86_64 last 
night.  I wound up using rpm alot, and would rather have used yum more, 
but for problems like the one noted below (just one example out of a 
large number of similar instances).


Is there a way to get yum to not fret about file conflicts when 
replacing one arch with another with the same base package name?


Dependency resolution and RPM seems to be happy, but the transaction 
check (OK, I don't really know what that means) doesn't seem to 
understand what's happening.


Thanks,
-Bill

==

--> Running transaction check
--> Processing Dependency: tor-core = 0.2.0.35-1.fc11 for package: 
tor-lsb-0.2.0.35-1.fc11.noarch

---> Package tor-core.x86_64 0:0.2.1.19-2.fc12 set to be updated
--> Running transaction check
---> Package tor-lsb.noarch 0:0.2.1.19-2.fc12 set to be updated
--> Finished Dependency Resolution

Dependencies Resolved


 Package  Arch   Version   Repository 
Size


Updating:
 tor-core x86_64 0.2.1.19-2.fc12   fedora 
   956 k

Updating for dependencies:
 tor-lsb  noarch 0.2.1.19-2.fc12   fedora 
12 k


Transaction Summary

Install   0 Package(s)
Upgrade   2 Package(s)

Total size: 968 k
Downloading Packages:
Running rpm_check_debug
Running Transaction Test
Finished Transaction Test


Transaction Check Error:
  file /etc/tor/torrc from install of tor-core-0.2.1.19-2.fc12.x86_64 
conflicts with file from package tor-core-0.2.0.35-1.fc11.i586
  file /usr/share/man/man1/tor.1.gz from install of 
tor-core-0.2.1.19-2.fc12.x86_64 conflicts with file from package 
tor-core-0.2.0.35-1.fc11.i586
  file /usr/share/tor/geoip from install of 
tor-core-0.2.1.19-2.fc12.x86_64 conflicts with file from package 
tor-core-0.2.0.35-1.fc11.i586





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RE: vmware workstation 7 on 64-bit fedora 12?

2010-01-06 Thread Dan Burkland
Here is a link to the blog post that helped me get the modules to compile 
properly on 2.6.32.2: 
http://sadevil.org/blog/2009/12/31/vmware-player-3-vs-linux-2-6-32/

Dan Burkland
 


> -Original Message-
> From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-
> boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of John Austin
> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 2:02 PM
> To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora.
> Subject: RE: vmware workstation 7 on 64-bit fedora 12?
> 
> On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 12:39 -0600, Dan Burkland wrote:
> > I'm running it just fine on my installation of Fedora 12 x86_64. When I
> installed my custom kernel (2.6.32.2),
> 
> >  I had to do a bit of tinkering to get the network & vmci modules to
> compile/install.
> 
> > You shouldn't have any problems though with the stock Fedora kernels.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-
> > > boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Robert P. J. Day
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 12:10 PM
> > > To: Fedora List
> > > Subject: vmware workstation 7 on 64-bit fedora 12?
> > >
> > >
> > >   is anyone out there running vmware WS 7 on fedora 12?  any gotchas i
> > > should know about?  i'm downloading the full x86_64 bundle of vmware
> > > WS as we speak, but some googling turned up stuff like this:
> > >
> > > http://osdir.com/ml/fedora-test-list/2009-10/msg00618.html
> > >
> > > which doesn't give me the warm fuzzies.  so ... thoughts?  directions?
> > > warnings?
> > >
> > > rday
> > > --
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> > >
> 
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> CANADA
> > >
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> > >
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> Hi
> 
> Yes running WS 7.0.0 fine on fully updated F12
> w2k pro and Windows 7 pro clients
> 
> I would be very interested in the tweaks needed for 2.6.32 kernel
> 
> John
> 
> 
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Re: Any linux-based microSD utilities?

2010-01-06 Thread Bill McGonigle

On 01/06/2010 12:48 PM, Max Pyziur wrote:

However,
the device doesn't automount, nor can I mount it from root.
> If the card has failed, I'd like to try and recover whatever data I can.


You could have a card failure or a corrupt filesystem (or both).  Try 
reading the card with something like:


  dd if=/dev/sdb of=myflakeycard.dd bs=2M conv=sync,noerror

If that succeeds, the disk is probably OK.  Usually they're vfat 
filesystems, so look into how to recover those.


> Can the card be made useable again through some sort of formatting 
utility?


something like:

  mkfs -t vfat -n yourphonenumberhere /dev/sdb1

works in my phones and cameras.  That'll wipe your data of course.  The 
-n flag is optional, but in theory a number there will help an honest 
man return your lost device.  It worked once for me anyway.


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Re: i686 packages in my Fedora 12 x86_64

2010-01-06 Thread Bill McGonigle

On 01/05/2010 02:44 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote:

I have freshly installed Fedora 12 x86_64 in my PC 2 weeks ago. Now I
see that I have some (49) packages in both i686 and x86_64
architectures. The list is at the end of the message.

What should I do?


I haven't figured out the right way to deal with this, but I did just 
last night finally purge an upgraded system of its 32-bit packages with 
something like:


rpm -qa | grep '86$' | sort | xargs --verbose rpm -e --nodeps

And then ran:

  rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest

and:

  package-cleanup --problems

with successful results.  So far so good, yum runs well again.

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Re: How many people need to use the proprietary nvidia driver ? (Or other non kms driver ?)

2010-01-06 Thread Robin Laing

On 12/22/2009 09:21 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote:

Please reply if you need to ( ie must) use the proprietary nvidia driver
instead of the nouveau driver.

Or some other video driver that doesn't support kernel mode switching.

DON'T reply otherwise, I don't want to hear a debate on the free
versions versus proprietary or anything else.

If you are using the proprietary nvidia driver or some other non kms
equipped driver, how are you finding F12 ?  Ie do you experience
freezing when you access some panel items ?

Thanks



I tried the Nouveau driver on a new laptop but it didn't support 3D for 
Stellarium or games.  I see that there is some open source 3D but I 
couldn't find the rpm.  When there is an RPM I will try it. (Gallium)


I have an old laptop that is running the Nouveau driver but it's 
response is slower than under F7.  I will test the Nvidia driver and if 
it responds faster, then I will leave it on. (Multimedia)


At work I need 3D support.

Desktop at home needs 3D support.

4 machines - 3 Nvidia 1 Nouveau (for now)



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Re: TV over the internet

2010-01-06 Thread Timothy Murphy
Bryn M. Reeves wrote:

>> I'd love to see a posting from someone who has abandoned
>> the traditional TV set in favour of the (Fedora) computer.
> 
> I've not owned a broadcast TV in more than 7 years. For a lot of that
> time, I just didn't watch the stuff.
> 
> Since the BBC iPlayer (I'm in the UK) moved to a format I can view on
> Fedora (OK.. Flash, so still not ideal! :) I find I watch rather a lot
> of TV on my living room PC!

Thanks for your response.
I guess iPlayer is exactly what I'm looking for,
but unfortunately it is restricted to UK residents.

I did wonder if I could use my son, in Cardiff,
to re-send the stream over to me in Dublin (or Italy)?
Could I do that without using up all his bandwidth?
It would be nice if there was a way to start with a UK IP address,
and then change to a foreign one?

> Nowadays, Chanel4 and 5 also have online content I can watch happily on
> Fedora.

What application do you use to watch Channels 4 and 5?
I take it they don't come through the iPlayer?

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Re: Anyone know of a program to read dicom files?

2010-01-06 Thread Bill McGonigle

On 01/02/2010 08:12 AM, Paolo Galtieri wrote:


I tried both cinepaint and gimp which claim to support dicom files, but
cinepaint crashes and gimp says

Procedure 'file-dicom-load' returned no return values


Check out this one:

  http://dicom.offis.de/dcmtk.php.en

I've been out of the field for a while, but it used to be 
well-considered.  That being said, we had a smart guy on staff whose 
full-time job it was to figure out how to parse supposedly-standard 
DICOM files coming out of random scanners from myriad vendors.


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Re: i686 packages in my Fedora 12 x86_64 [SOLVED]

2010-01-06 Thread A. Racca
On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 16:59 -0500, Bill McGonigle wrote:
> On 01/05/2010 02:44 PM, Germán A. Racca wrote:
> > I have freshly installed Fedora 12 x86_64 in my PC 2 weeks ago. Now I
> > see that I have some (49) packages in both i686 and x86_64
> > architectures. The list is at the end of the message.
> >
> > What should I do?
> 
> I haven't figured out the right way to deal with this, but I did just 
> last night finally purge an upgraded system of its 32-bit packages with 
> something like:
> 
> rpm -qa | grep '86$' | sort | xargs --verbose rpm -e --nodeps
> 
> And then ran:
> 
>rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
> 
> and:
> 
>package-cleanup --problems
> 
> with successful results.  So far so good, yum runs well again.
> 
> -Bill

Hi Bill:

Thanks for your suggestions. The problem was that I had installed the
following packages:

gtk2-engines-aurora.i586
gtk2-engines-candido.i586

in my Fedora x86_64, which pulled the dependencies.

But now, I have packaged the engines Candido and Aurora for 64-bit and
then I removed all the 32-bit dependencies installed before without any
problems.

Thanks,
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Re: How many people need to use the proprietary nvidia driver ? (Or other non kms driver ?)

2010-01-06 Thread Bill McGonigle

On 12/22/2009 11:21 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote:

Please reply if you need to ( ie must) use the proprietary nvidia driver
instead of the nouveau driver.


Yes, TV-Out for MythDora.  Not on F12 yet, but that's in the works.

It's frustrating enough that I'd switch video cards if there was decent 
free driver support.


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Re: Tar oddity...

2010-01-06 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/7 Roberto Ragusa :
>
> That is really bad.
> If the machine is unreliable, any kind of hard computation (such
> as data compression) will have problems.

I agree. Have you run memtest on it, Dave? It should be in the repo or
already an option from the boot menu. You can download the live CD
from http://www.memtest.org if you prefer.

If your memory passes, it could be faulty/overclocked CPU or
overheating. Check these things too.

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Re: Kernel boot problems or is my hard drive failing ?

2010-01-06 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/6 Linuxguy123 :
> If I power down my laptop via the usual KStart->Shutdown means, it can
> take up to 4 restart attempts before it fully boots.
>
> It has no problem launching grub and the kernel selection screen.  That
> it does reliably every time.   After that, there are issues.

Just a wild stab in the dark, but you don't have a USB drive or memory
stick plugged in while trying to boot, do you?

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Re: Anyone know of a program to read dicom files?

2010-01-06 Thread Paolo Galtieri

On 01/06/2010 06:12 PM, Bill McGonigle wrote:

On 01/02/2010 08:12 AM, Paolo Galtieri wrote:


I tried both cinepaint and gimp which claim to support dicom files, but
cinepaint crashes and gimp says

Procedure 'file-dicom-load' returned no return values


Check out this one:

http://dicom.offis.de/dcmtk.php.en

I've been out of the field for a while, but it used to be 
well-considered. That being said, we had a smart guy on staff whose 
full-time job it was to figure out how to parse supposedly-standard 
DICOM files coming out of random scanners from myriad vendors.


-Bill


I tried it, but couldn't get the source rpm to build on F12:

c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DNDEBUG -c -I. -I. -I../include 
-I../../config/include -I../../ofstd/include -I../../dcmdata/include 
-I../../dcmnet/include \
-O -I/usr/include/libxml2 -D_REENTRANT -D_XOPEN_SOURCE_EXTENDED 
-D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_BSD_COMPAT -D_OSF_SOURCE 
-D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199506L -Wall tlslayer.cc
tlslayer.cc: In constructor 
‘DcmTLSTransportLayer::DcmTLSTransportLayer(int, const char*)’:
tlslayer.cc:195: error: invalid conversion from ‘const SSL_METHOD*’ to 
‘SSL_METHOD*’
tlslayer.cc:198: error: invalid conversion from ‘const SSL_METHOD*’ to 
‘SSL_METHOD*’
tlslayer.cc:201: error: invalid conversion from ‘const SSL_METHOD*’ to 
‘SSL_METHOD*’

make[2]: *** [tlslayer.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/rpmbuild/BUILD/dcmtk-3.5.4/dcmtls/libsrc'
make[1]: *** [libsrc-all] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/rpmbuild/BUILD/dcmtk-3.5.4/dcmtls'
make: *** [dcmtls-all] Error 2
error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.1DAivb (%build)

I don't know C++ so I haven't tried to fix it.

I finally resorted to using nconvert to convert the dicom files to tiff. 
The conversion loses all the medical related data, but at least I can 
view the images.


Paolo

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Re: F12 Rkhunter, Have I a rootkit? SOLVED

2010-01-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 05 January 2010, Gene Heskett wrote:
>On Tuesday 05 January 2010, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>>On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 19:57:20 -0500
>>
>>Gene Heskett  wrote:
>>> When I asked about it Kevin, F10 was under active support for another
>>> 2 or 3 months, now it is not, so why waste our time?  I built
>>> rkhunter from the latest tarball, and that still didn't fix it.
>>
>>Well, I am just trying to find out where you "asked about it".
>>
>>I would have been happy to try and address it in a bug.
>>If it was on this list, then I missed it, and would suggest you file
>>issues as bugs to make sure I see them.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>kevin
>
>TBT Kevin, I didn't think it was fedora's bug, and a message to the author
> in the docs of this tarball, bounced with a no permissions message.

Update to this discussion:  It _was_ my own damned fault, I was running the 
copy in /usr/local/bin, version 1.3.6,  when I ran it b y hand cuz 
/usr/local/bin is earlier in my $PATH, but the script in /etc/cron.daily was 
hard coded to run the older one, version 1.3.4, in /usr/bin.  Fixed, and so 
is my complaint.

My apologies for the noise on the list.

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RE: vmware workstation 7 on 64-bit fedora 12?

2010-01-06 Thread Christopher A. Williams
On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 15:40 -0600, Dan Burkland wrote:
> Here is a link to the blog post that helped me get the modules to compile 
> properly on 2.6.32.2: 
> http://sadevil.org/blog/2009/12/31/vmware-player-3-vs-linux-2-6-32/
> 
> Dan Burkland
>  
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-
> > boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of John Austin
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 2:02 PM
> > To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora.
> > Subject: RE: vmware workstation 7 on 64-bit fedora 12?
> > 
> > On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 12:39 -0600, Dan Burkland wrote:
> > > I'm running it just fine on my installation of Fedora 12 x86_64. When I
> > installed my custom kernel (2.6.32.2),
> > 
> > >  I had to do a bit of tinkering to get the network & vmci modules to
> > compile/install.
> > 
> > > You shouldn't have any problems though with the stock Fedora kernels.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-
> > > > boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Robert P. J. Day
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 12:10 PM
> > > > To: Fedora List
> > > > Subject: vmware workstation 7 on 64-bit fedora 12?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   is anyone out there running vmware WS 7 on fedora 12?  any gotchas i
> > > > should know about?  i'm downloading the full x86_64 bundle of vmware
> > > > WS as we speak, but some googling turned up stuff like this:
> > > >
> > > > http://osdir.com/ml/fedora-test-list/2009-10/msg00618.html
> > > >
> > > > which doesn't give me the warm fuzzies.  so ... thoughts?  directions?
> > > > warnings?
> > > >
> > > > rday
> nes
> > >
> > Hi
> > 
> > Yes running WS 7.0.0 fine on fully updated F12
> > w2k pro and Windows 7 pro clients
> > 
> > I would be very interested in the tweaks needed for 2.6.32 kernel
> > 
> > John
> > 
> 

Running fine on my fully updated F12 system here - and has been since
F12 and WS7 both were available. No kernel tweaks necessary so far. But
I did find one simple thing that needed to be done to make the install
work on the 1st try without issues:

Make sure that, prior to launching the WS7 installer, you place selinux
in permissive mode (assuming you haven't disabled it)!

After install is complete, it's fine putting selinux back into enforcing
mode if you like. IIRC, the problem seems to be that the selinux policy
doesn't like something the WS7 installer does with portrelease. That
causes problems later on.

Switching to permissive mode flags the error but allows the portrelease
stuff to happen, and the install completes normally. WS7 is then happy -
even if you put selinux back into enforcing mode after the install is
complete.

Hope that helps!

Cheers,

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Open with Other Application dialog has some entries duplicated.

2010-01-06 Thread Paolo Galtieri
When I right click on a file and bring up the "Open with Other 
Application" dialog I notice that some entries have multiple entries.  
For example Okular is listed over a dozen times, Firefox is listed twice 
as is Brasero. Is there a way to fix this?


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Re: TV over the internet

2010-01-06 Thread Alan Cox
> I did wonder if I could use my son, in Cardiff,
> to re-send the stream over to me in Dublin (or Italy)?
> Could I do that without using up all his bandwidth?

For low quality probably - or I imagine you could just buy yourself a
cheap UK hosting package with cgi and add yourself some kind of forwarder
script ;)

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Re: NetworkManager vs Cacheing nameserver

2010-01-06 Thread Tom H
> I've now rebooted to check, and /etc/resolv.conf has again been
> overwritten by NM, despite the PEERDNS=no line in the ifcfg file, i.e.
> it has reverted to what it was. NM seems to be calling dhclient with its
> own private config file, the whereabouts of which are non-obvious.

Strange. You might then need to set the DNS server through the NM GUI.

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Re: TV over the internet

2010-01-06 Thread Ed Greshko
Timothy Murphy wrote:
>
> I looked at these (well, hulu.com seems restricted to the US),
> but they both seem to be offering videos on line, rather than TV.
>   
Well, "TV" is certainly going to be regional.  So, when you ask about
watching TV you'll also have to include where you are and what you're
interested in watching.  AFAIK, no TV station in the US is broadcasting
"Live" over the internet.

If they were, they'd most probably be streaming flash and using their
own embedded flash player in a browser hoping that you can't/won't be
able to record it. 

Of course there are many content providers that stream content.  Some
live, some a day late.

Comedy Central - A cable network owned by Viacom, streams the "Daily
Show with Jon Stewart" and "The Colbert Report" the day after broadcast.

C-Span broadcasts Live TV and radio as well as recorded shows with your
choice of viewing options (Flash, Windows Media, RealPlayer).

As previously mentioned, there is justintv with plenty of sports events
(pirated) going out live.  hulu is US based and works within the
lawas well as numerous TV networks that do similar things like
Comedy Central.  For a time, sites like hulu could be accessed outside
of the US by using open proxies located inside the US...but these sites
have gotten much better at detecting this.

You can also visit http://channelsurfing.net/ to see what is available
at any given time.
>   
>> Or maybe evening something like "Slingbox"...use to...but no longer will
>> work wine.
>> 
>
> I have actually tried Slingbox, but not with great success.
>
>   
I've got a Slingbox being hosted in Wisconsin in the US, with a Time
Warner Cable subscription.  I'm at home in Taiwan watching, at the
moment, Jeopardy.  But, as I mentioned, need to us a true Windows
systembut it could be a VM.

Everything, except for Sling, is 0 cost.




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Re: Which model raid adapter controll card is good for work with Fedora 12 ?

2010-01-06 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Alan Cox writes:


A modern PC is rather good at doing RAID in software and PCI Express
fixes the main bottleneck of RAID1 in software. Its also generally true
that a desktop PC has lots and lots of spare CPU cycles to use for RAID
work.


Also, with the right hardware, failed drives can be swapped without shutting 
the server down. AFAIK it can only be done with SCSI drives, but with SATA 
hardware being supported by the scsi subsystem, it'll probably work with 
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Re: Flash Problem

2010-01-06 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Marcel Rieux  wrote:
> Suddenly, Flash at YouTube and elsewhere stopped playing. I cleaned
> /tmp, checked if javascript was enabled, I installed some new flash
> packages, but not devel and gnash, tried the former kernel(1), all to
> no avail.
>
> (1) I received kernel warning after I rebooted.
>
> The Black screen with controls appear, the controls disappear, the
> screen becomes white, the download seems hesitant. No video.
>
> Suggestions?

I thought it might be a good idea to do just the opposite: remove
everythign and reinstall, I reinstalled gnash. It works fine at
youtube but apparently needs the bad plugins. Not sure it's an
advantage over using the Abode plug-in...

This definitely looks like a hack.

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Re: Which model raid adapter controll card is good for work with Fedora 12 ?

2010-01-06 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/7 Edward S.P. Leong :
> Dear All,
>
> Happy New Year !
> As the title...
> Would you mind to help ( suggestion ) ?

I use an Areca ARC1220 PCI Express hardware RAID card (inc Intel
IOP333 RAID6 engine) with great success. Their driver is included in
mainstream kernel.

http://www.areca.com.tw/

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Re: Flash Problem

2010-01-06 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/7 Marcel Rieux :
> youtube but apparently needs the bad plugins. Not sure it's an
> advantage over using the Abode plug-in...
>

It's free software I guess..

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Re: /etc/login.defs created as /etc/login.defs.rpmnew

2010-01-06 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 08:29 +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: 
> On 06Jan2010 09:41, Marcel Rieux  wrote:
> | > | > This normally means that /etc/login.defs was not exactly as it was
> | > | > originally installed.
> | > | I didn't change it. Is it possible that a program changed it?
> | > Sure, though I'd imagine unlikely. It might also be a permissions
> | > change; I don't know how picky rpm/yum is about this.
> | 
> | It's chmoded group and user readable, which is not really necessary
> | but doesn't change much, I suppose.
> 
> rpm has some "verify" options. See the VERIFY OPTIONS section of "man
> rpm". Run it against login.defs and see what's different.

$ rpm -qVf /etc/login.defs
...
S.5T.  c /etc/login.defs
...

$ ls -l /etc/login.defs*
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 1524 2009-11-29 11:42 /etc/login.defs
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 1475 2009-11-18 08:51 /etc/login.defs.rpmnew

$ diff /etc/login.defs*
56,57c56,57
< # Use MD5 or DES to encrypt password? Red Hat use MD5 by default.
< MD5_CRYPT_ENAB no
---
> # Use SHA512 to encrypt password.
> ENCRYPT_METHOD SHA512 
59d58
< ENCRYPT_METHOD SHA512

$ rpm -qif /etc/login.defs
Name: shadow-utils Relocations: (not relocatable)
Version : 4.1.4.2   Vendor: Fedora Project
Release : 2.fc12Build Date: Wed 18 Nov 2009 
09:00:37 AM EST
Install Date: Tue 05 Jan 2010 07:08:49 PM EST  Build Host: 
x86-5.fedora.phx.redhat.com
Group   : System Environment/Base   Source RPM: 
shadow-utils-4.1.4.2-2.fc12.src.rpm
Size: 2700852  License: BSD and GPLv2+
Signature   : RSA/8, Thu 26 Nov 2009 02:44:54 AM EST, Key ID 9d1cc34857bbccba
Packager: Fedora Project
URL : http://pkg-shadow.alioth.debian.org/
Summary : Utilities for managing accounts and shadow password files

So the "old" version is newer than the "new" version.  I've never
touched that file, so it's not because the old one was changed from the
distribution version (at least not intentionally).

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mac usb drive problem with F11

2010-01-06 Thread Dave Stevens
I'd like to mount a (WD) mac usb drive in F11. It has a hfsplus  
filesystem on it. I can mount it and copy data to it but when I look  
in the drive I see no new data, just what was already there. Any  
suggestions?


mtab:

[d...@davehost ~]$ cat /etc/mtab
/dev/mapper/vg_davehost-lv_root / ext4 rw 0 0
proc /proc proc rw 0 0
sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,gid=5,mode=620 0 0
/dev/sda1 /boot ext3 rw 0 0
tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0
none /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc binfmt_misc rw 0 0
sunrpc /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs rpc_pipefs rw 0 0
gvfs-fuse-daemon /home/dave/.gvfs fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon  
rw,nosuid,nodev,user=dave 0 0
/dev/sr0 /media/Bluebirds iso9660  
ro,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=devkit,uid=500,gid=500,iocharset=utf8,mode=0400,dmode=0500 0  
/dev/sdf3 /media/My\040Passport hfsplus rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=devkit 0 0



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need howto for SELinux config--ssh on non-standard port

2010-01-06 Thread John Poelstra
I'm running sshd on a high (>1024) port number and cannot find a clear 
step by step guide for configuring this correctly on Fedora 12 on 
google I've come across lots of random bugs and forum questions, but 
nothing that starts at the beginning of the process through the end.


I'm a total SELinux newbie and usually just disable itall together when 
things like this happen.  I'm trying to change my ways :)   Can anyone 
provide any URLs or the steps?


If someone can provide the steps here I'll blog about it to get it 
documented so others do not have to suffer the same fate.


Thanks,
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Re: need howto for SELinux config--ssh on non-standard port

2010-01-06 Thread John Poelstra

John Poelstra said the following on 01/06/2010 06:29 PM Pacific Time:

I'm running sshd on a high (>1024) port number and cannot find a clear
step by step guide for configuring this correctly on Fedora 12 on
google I've come across lots of random bugs and forum questions, but
nothing that starts at the beginning of the process through the end.


Clarification... I've got ssh running fine... it is the SELinux part I 
can't figure out :)


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Re: need howto for SELinux config--ssh on non-standard port

2010-01-06 Thread inode0
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 8:39 PM, John Poelstra  wrote:
> John Poelstra said the following on 01/06/2010 06:29 PM Pacific Time:
>>
>> I'm running sshd on a high (>1024) port number and cannot find a clear
>> step by step guide for configuring this correctly on Fedora 12 on
>> google I've come across lots of random bugs and forum questions, but
>> nothing that starts at the beginning of the process through the end.
>
> Clarification... I've got ssh running fine... it is the SELinux part I can't
> figure out :)

May be better ways to deal with it but here is generally what I do:

grep sshd /var/log/audit/audit.log | audit2allow -M mySshdPort

check mySshdPort.te for sanity and if sane

semodule -i mySshdPort.pp

to install the module created above.

John

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Clean install of Fedora 12 will not bring up login screen after upgrade

2010-01-06 Thread John Nissley
I did a clean installation of Fedora 12 from the CD today and the first 
boot was fine.  I could log into the computer and get the graphical 
interface.  I then did a yum upgrade and 500 MB later the upgrade was 
finished.  I then rebooted the computer and now the boot gets stuck at 
the f that looks like infinity which is just before the login screen 
would display.  I can boot into single user mode and also get into text 
mode but the graphical mode will not give me the login screen.  I saw 
that there was not a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file so I ran Xorg -configure to 
create one but that did not help either.


Any ideas on what could be causing this?


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Re: Clean install of Fedora 12 will not bring up login screen after upgrade

2010-01-06 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/7 John Nissley :
>
> Any ideas on what could be causing this?

X.Org is automatically configured now. Have you tried turning off
kernel based modesetting? Edit grub and add "nomodeset" to the kernel
line.

What does the X.Org log say? /var/log/Xorg.0.log

-c

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Re: Any linux-based microSD utilities?

2010-01-06 Thread john wendel

On 01/06/2010 01:54 PM, Bill McGonigle wrote:

On 01/06/2010 12:48 PM, Max Pyziur wrote:

However,
the device doesn't automount, nor can I mount it from root.
> If the card has failed, I'd like to try and recover whatever data I
can.


You could have a card failure or a corrupt filesystem (or both). Try
reading the card with something like:

dd if=/dev/sdb of=myflakeycard.dd bs=2M conv=sync,noerror

If that succeeds, the disk is probably OK. Usually they're vfat
filesystems, so look into how to recover those.

 > Can the card be made useable again through some sort of formatting
utility?

something like:

mkfs -t vfat -n yourphonenumberhere /dev/sdb1

works in my phones and cameras. That'll wipe your data of course. The -n
flag is optional, but in theory a number there will help an honest man
return your lost device. It worked once for me anyway.

-Bill



You might also try to read the data with "ddrescue". Good luck.

John

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Re: Any linux-based microSD utilities?

2010-01-06 Thread Chris Smart
2010/1/7 Max Pyziur :
>
> If the card has failed, I'd like to try and recover whatever data I can.
>

What you want is photorec, part of the testdisk program. It can search
your devices on the block level and recover data.

Afterwards, you can re-format it with VFAT as it's most likely a file
allocation table corruption.

-c

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