Re: Firefox Running Slow in Linux
The problems with FireFox "beeing slow" has two different reaons: 1.) FireFox UI is slow / Scrolling is slow: Your video driver does not accalerated XRender well, or is slow for other reaons. (While scrolling and running top, is FireFox eating all the CPU or Xorg?) FireFox just sends drawing commands to the X-Server, if the drivers are broken its not FireFox fault. 2.) FireFox takes long to load / close: FireFox does exactly the same on Windows as well as on Linux, but Ext3 completly dies when FireFox issues fflush commands to make sure all files have been written appropriate. - Clemens 2009/2/4 Patrick O'Callaghan : > On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 16:24 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: >> > Well, what do you mean by rendering? What exactly are you 'rendering'? >> >> The HTML and images that are being converted to pixels. >> >> > Running >> > a java-based or some other application like a mandelbrot application or >> > what? You >> > might let us know exactly what you are doing? >> >> Just browsing the internet. >> >> > It is hard to tell with the little data you are giving as to determine if >> > by >> > rendering you >> > are getting `streaming data' coming from "remote" or "local" sources and >> > if >> > the >> > data (for rendering?) coming from local/remote servers and/or services? >> >> Doesn't rendering simply mean creating visuals from data? >> >> > Just wondered, >> > Dan >> >> I'm talking about scrolling through long pages and zooming in and out, >> things Firefox on Windows handles with no effort. > > I'll just comment that I have no performance problems with FF on F10 > x86_64, except that it can take a while to start up and has sometimes > been known to suck cpu (possibly the Java plugin is doing this in my > case). This is KDE 4.1, Intel Core 2 Duo, 4GB of RAM (but it was the > same with 2GB) and onboard Intel video. I don't use Compiz. I do use > AdBlock, Flashblock and NoScript. > > poc > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Firefox Running Slow in Linux
> So one needs a highend, fully supported video card to scroll properly > in Firefox/Linux? Not at all, just one with good drivers. For now the proprietary nvidia driver is quite good on GF6+ (latest version), and the ATI radeon driver too (for cards older than Radeon HD2x/3x/4x). The proprietary Catalyst driver is crap, and for Radeon-HD2/3/4 there is currently no accelerating 2D driver at all - not free and not the proprietary. Intel used to be good but is performance-wise quite broken because they re-wrote large parts of it, so I guess it needs some tuning to reach old speeds. - Clemens -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
KDE login broken in rawhide
Hi, Since about last week I can't login into KDE anymore using KDM. The KDE splash screen appears, but after this xmessage pops up saying ~"can't start kded4" or something like that. I've quite a number of KDE4 updates installed, but it still happens. Has somebody else experienced this problem too? Does it need manual solving? Thank you in advance, Clemens -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Fedora Rawhide 11.91 slow startup
Hi, I've been on rawhide for quite some time now, and although I defragment my ext4 filesystem regulary, startup is quite slow. Until KDE has fully started up, it takes almost 2 minutes on my Core2Duo laptop. I've a second partitition where I've installed Kubuntu-8.10 alpha 5 and it boots in a fraction of time. These are the tasks, that take a lot of time during start: 10s kernel (+intel kms) 5s udev 7-10s checking kmods hal: 5s Xorg + kdm: ~15s KDE: 20s I wonder where the large difference between Fedora and Kubuntu comes from? Any ideas how I can improve boot time? - Clemens -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Howto disable package-kit package list updates?
Hi, About once a day, packagekit starts on my laptop and updates its package-lists. Beside the fact that this eats my traffic, I find it quite annoying because starting yum usually means a LOT of disk IO slowing down my system during that time. Is there any way to disable package-kit updating its package-lists? Thanks, Clemens -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Intel video driver 2.8.1 is available; when in repository?
I too have experienced many problems with the 2.7 intel drivers, although the version patched by redhat is far better than what intel delivered as 2.7. I guess the long list of self-patched issues is also the reason why they don't want to simply switch to 2.8. I am now running Fedora-12, but even there the latest version is 2.8.0, instead of 2.8.1. I decided to compile 2.8.99 myself, and its almost as stable as the last pure EXA based release - 2.4, which was for me the best version. - Clemens 2009/9/24, Gabriel Ramirez : > On 09/22/2009 07:10 PM, Rob wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> On August 25th a new release 2.8.1 of the intel video driver became >> availalble: >> >> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2009-August/046978.html >> >> The current one (2.7.0) is suffering from too many bugs. >> Is there any plan to make the new release available in the >> yum reporsitory of Fedora 11? >> >> Thanks, >> Rob. >> > > Well, but maybe the majority of the computers run fine with the 2.7.0, > so maybe thats the reason to not make a upgrade to the 2.8.1 in the > release of Fedora 11. > > by example I have two computers: > > one have problems with the 2.7.0 version > > the other have none but the second one a is netbook and don't have a > uptime longer of two days, I was shut down or restarting after one or > two days so maybe is the reason to not trigger the freeze bugs in the > driver, > > but the problems in the first computer make me to compile the 2.8.1 > version but the graphics chipset a intel G33 hit a bug in mesa too, so > my intel driver is compiled against mesa 7.5.1 not the 7.6 version in Fedora > > and my machine don't have any freezes anymore, but I only have the > Desktop Effects in KDE enabled I don't use any opengl apps regularly, > but the machine have 5 or 6 days without ill effects, I reboot them > weekly to apply stock fedora updates > > but if the driver works well in my machines don't mean which in all > machines will works well too. > > and rebuilding the intel driver to version 2.8.1 is easy if you have the > Development environment from Fedora 11. do you have it installed? > > > Gabriel > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: routing problems with f11
Is this really such a strange setup, to route a network over ppp to the internet? Has somebody else a similar setup, and can confirm it works for him/her? Thanks you in advance, Clemens 2009/5/9 Clemens Eisserer : > Hi, > > I have I server which routes a private network to the internet through ppp. > All I had to do on Fedora-8 was: >> /sbin/ifconfig eth0 up 192.168.1.1 >> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward >> /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE > > However with Fedora-11 this doesn't work anymore. Packes simply are > not forewarded anymore. > The routing tables look 1:1 the same: > > Fedora8: >> 10.64.64.64 * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 ppp0 >> 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 >> default * 0.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 ppp0 > > Fedora11: >> 10.64.64.64 * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 ppp0 >> 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 >> default * 0.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 ppp0 > > Any idea what the problem could be, or how I can debug that problem. > > I already asked at fedora-forums as well as on this list once, but > nobody had any clue whats going on here :-/ > > Thank you in advance, Clemens > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: NAT routing problems with f11
Hi Dave, Of course I was firewalled. Sorry for all the traffic and thank you very much for pointing that out. Sorry for the late answer: Seems gmail failed to group your response to my question and I completly overlooked it. I guess I am just too dependent on that stuff ^^ Thanks again, Clemens 2009/5/19 David Timms : > On 10/05/09 21:04, Clemens Eisserer wrote: >> >> 2009/5/9 Clemens Eisserer: >>> >>> I have I server which routes a private network to the internet through >>> ppp. > >>> All I had to do on Fedora-8 was: >>>> >>>> /sbin/ifconfig eth0 up 192.168.1.1 >>>> echo 1> /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward >>>> /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE > > Is the firewall active ? iptables --list > > Is the ppp connection active, or do you need to dial it ? > >>> However with Fedora-11 this doesn't work anymore. Packes simply are >>> not forewarded anymore. > > Is that what a packet sniffer (wireshark) tells you ? > > DaveT. > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Frustration with F10/KDE
> Right click desktop -> Appearance settings -> Desktop Activity > change Type: Desktop > to Type: FolderView -> KCrash. Well actually KDE4 was the reason why I stayed on Fedora-8 until lately. - Clemens -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Frustration with F10/KDE
> crash of what? details? Plasma of course. I already filed a bug with a complete stack-trace. Like I did with all the other crashes I've reported with a full stack-trace, which haven't been looked at. (Except for the first-level guys sorting dups out). - Clemens 2009/5/20, Rex Dieter : > Clemens Eisserer wrote: > >>> Right click desktop -> Appearance settings -> Desktop Activity >>> change Type: Desktop >>> to Type: FolderView >> >> -> KCrash. >> Well actually KDE4 was the reason why I stayed on Fedora-8 until lately. > > crash of what? details? > > -- Rex > > > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F 10 Installation without Network Manager
I experienced a lot of problems when disabling NetworkManager. Programs started to complain that they are not connected to a network, although everything works. - Clemens 2009/5/23 Rahul Sundaram : > On 05/23/2009 08:34 AM, Mike Dwiggins wrote: >> Has anyone found a way to install F 10 without installing Network Manager? > > Not possible since Anaconda itself uses Network Manager for managing the > network during installation in Fedora 10. However, you can disable the > service or remove it post-installation if necessary. > > Rahul > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11- experience with btrfs?
its slow ;) 2009/6/5, Neal Becker : > I'm considering a clean f11 install with btrfs (raid0 across 2 drives). > > What are experiences with btrfs on F11 so far? > > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Presto causing yum troubles?
Hi, Whenever I try to install some new packages, I get messages like: > http://mirrors.nl.eu.kernel.org/fedora/releases/11/Everything/i386/os/repodata/869118a068c1b1c8b17e69282e562c4642f63a6e5041b6670e2141cf740aced7-prestodelta.xml.gz: > [Errno 14] HTTP Error 403: Forbidden Any idea what could be the reason? Thank you in advance, lg Clemens -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Howto stay in Rawhide?
Hi, I've been updating from an Fedora11-Alpha installation all the time. However lately only few updates arrived, so I guess I've been migrated to Fedora-11 repos instead of Rawhide. I also tried: > yum --disablerepo=* --enablerepo=rawhide update However I didn't get any updates. I was hoping for maybe Kernel-2.6.30, a newer intel driver as well as maybe KDE-4.3 beta? Isn't there simply a lot going on on rawhide for now? I like Fedora-11, but not enough to wish to stay with it ;) (like it was the case with Fedora8) Thanks, Clemens -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Graphics card recommendation?
Hi, > If you can part with around $40 US, you can find nVidia Quadro FX 2000 cards > that will knock your socks off (yes, OVERKILL). Depends, just because its called Quadro doesn't mean its fast. Some of my collagues have Quadros which are identical to Geforce-6200, barely capable of playing any games. > Other options would be an nVidia 'consumer' class card - GeForce FX 5200 (or > higher, like 6200, etc.) w/128MB or more RAM. I can't recommend a 5200, its not even supported by latest drivers. Short: If you like to play OpenGL games, go for a serious NVidia card. If not, the radeon's will give you an excellent 2D experience, without the fear of loosing official driver support. - Clemens -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: Hibernate OK, resume - not so much
I guess the following stuff would help: - pstack traces of Xorg with debugging statements enabled, while Xorg is at 100% cpu - hardware used - Clemens 2009/6/12 Fernando Cassia : > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 8:01 AM, Steven Stern > wrote: >> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> I did a clean install of F11 on my laptop and put it into hibernation. >> When restarting the machine, it appears to come up. I'm at what looks >> like the gdm login. There's the screen background, a grey box with a >> white field in it. No text and it's not accepting a password. >> >> I can SSH in. top shows Xorg is running at 100%. > > Same here, Desktop, AMD Opteron 150. For the first time I saw "hibernating" > working, and detailing its progress until the system was left, gee, > hibernating. > > When I restarted the system it did a lot of sequential reads (as is putting > the contents back in RAM) but after that... a black screen and a stuck > cursor. I could see some random disk access every few seconds, but not much > more. > > Didn´t test SSHing to it. > > FC >> >> >> - -- >> >> Steve >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org >> >> iEYEARECAAYFAkoyNYEACgkQeERILVgMyvBQLACdEbiGSoq6467GPug2axh7MhRH >> OzcAnj8aweEERm7ypscfl/X8xhXVOu4I >> =dSZP >> -END PGP SIGNATURE- >> >> -- >> fedora-list mailing list >> fedora-list@redhat.com >> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list >> Guidelines: >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > > > > -- > Dream of the Daily Mail > It is the Holy Grail > And then the BBC > Your life would be complete > > -Manic Street Preachers, "Royal Correspondent" > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: Hibernate OK, resume - not so much
> It´s strange that the beta process didn´t hit this one. Well, if you would have participated it most likely would have ;) No offense, but fedora is bleeding edge - often more bleeding then gentoo. - Clemens -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: Hibernate OK, resume - not so much
Hi Steve, > How do I do pstack *with debugging enabled*? Simply install the debug packages for xorg, your driver and other stuff you see in the stack-trace. You can use debuginfo-install to get the appropriate packages. The simply execute a few "pstack pid-of-x", open a bug report and report it. Good luck, Clemens -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Possible Fedora 11 Intel Video Driver issue.
You could try to start with the kernel-parameter "nomodeset", and use EXA or XAA. >From what I've seen UXA is always used when kms is active, no matter what is set in xorg. - Clemens PS: I guess the intel-driver guys would be happy about a bug report (although it won't change anything). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Possible Fedora 11 Intel Video Driver issue.
Hi, Simply put the file attached to /etx/X11 and adjust the parameters in the "Device" section. Removing the Noaccel options is probably a good idea ;) Good luck, Clemens PS: I would really file a bug about that at bugs.freedesktop.org, because that trick won't work with the next intel driver release. They already have removed support for XAA or EXA. 2009/6/14 L : > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Clemens Eisserer wrote: >> You could try to start with the kernel-parameter "nomodeset", and use >> EXA or XAA. >> >From what I've seen UXA is always used when kms is active, no matter >> what is set in xorg.title > > > > thanks for your reply. the kernel parameters are set as > > kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.29.4-167.fc11.i586 ro > root=UUID=cc2a54a0-0706-4e74-834e-e8b042375861 nomodeset rhgb qui > > how to or where to use EXA? > > >> >> - Clemens >> >> PS: I guess the intel-driver guys would be happy about a bug report >> (although it won't change anything). >> >> -- >> fedora-list mailing list >> fedora-list@redhat.com >> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list >> Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines >> > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > xorg.conf Description: Binary data -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Possible Fedora 11 Intel Video Driver issue.
> thanks, using your xorg.conf, I can use Mplayer, and Gnome Mplayer to > play the video. However it is choppy and the video cannot be resized > from its original size. Did you remove the NoAccel stuff as I said? - Clemens -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Flashplayer crashes on initialization (i386)
>> Is anyone else experiencing crashes like this? >> >> Flash plugin: 10.0.22.87 >> Firefox: 3.5 beta4 (also tried the RC1 candidate from >> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/3.5rc1-candidates/build1/) Me too. - Clemens -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Some programs die within libc's malloc/free functions
Hi, I've seen quite a few programs struggle on rawhide, especially IcedTea/OpenJDK and now I also saw amarok beeing aborted by what seems plausibility checks in malloc/free. Have there been changes recently which are more strict than before? Thanks, Clemens -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 Java Graphics issue - Solved
This was caused by a change in the NVidia video driver as far as I know, which disabled support for shared memory pixmaps by default. (This is also the case for EXA/UXA based drivers). The OpenGL pipeline was never enabled by default, because it causes frequent problems with bad drivers. In fact it only runs reliable with the nvidia proprietary driver and even there breaks from release to release. (The fact that the D3D pipeline works quite flawless on a broad mix of hw shows how much attention OGL gets these days). An XRender based Java2D backend is in the works for JAVA7, which won't be as high performant as the OGL one, but should work on a much broader field of hardware. - Clemens 2009/6/19, Ken Bass : > On 06/19/2009 04:11 PM, Ken Bass wrote: >> I just installed a fresh Fedora 11. I am running the NVIDIA driver >> (Twinview mode, not Xinerama), and an application that worked in the >> past that uses graphics (draws circles, arrows) now is unusable. When >> trying to interact with the graphics (drag, etc), the Java task shoots >> up to 60-90%. The larger I make the window (regardless of the same >> amount of graphics), the slower Java + xorg is. I went so far as to swap >> video cards without change (from Geforce 7 to Geforce 8 series). >> >> All this stuff worked fairly snappy under Fedora 10 under VMware. For >> Fedora 11, I have installed natively, and the native environment is dual >> headed. Does anyone have any pointers on where to look? I can run the >> glxgears program and get 15000fps or so. >> >> > > Adding '-Dsun.java2d.opengl=True' results in snappy > performance. Apparently since Java 5 (1.5) OpenGL acceleration is turned off > by default. > See http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/guide/2d/new_features.html#ogl > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 Java Graphics issue
Hi Ken, Yes, OpenJDK uses the pisces rasterizer which is slower than the ductus one, which is included in Sun's proprietary JRE. Would be interesting if you could try the proprietary build against OpenJDK. I already have some plans speeding up Pisces, I just need some time to finally sit down ;) Are you drawing to screen or to an image (BufferdImage, VolatileImage)? - Clemens -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Time to upgrade FC8->FC10
> So, I'll ask it again: Preupgrade wants to download the install image to > the /boot partition. Unforch the F8 installer refuses to allow a /boot > partition of over 199 megs, and we all know that image has to be bigger than > that. So the question remains: How do I tell preupgrade to use /tmp, or > even / as a scratchpad location for this install image download? Why not simply resize your partitions? There are gparted live cds, and I guess it wouldn't take long. However, as always, backup before you modify something. - Clemens -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Does Fedora11-alpha contain Linux-2.6.29rc?
Hi, Does Fedora11-Alpha use RC versions of 2.6.29, or still stick to 2.6.28 until 2.6.29 is released? The reason I ask is that the Intel driver is horribly broken with 2.6.28's GEM stuff, and I hope things got better until now. Thanks, Clemens -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Does Fedora11-alpha contain Linux-2.6.29rc?
> Yes, pretty much. We are running 2.6.29rcX kernels :) Cool :) > We hope many things get better as well :) > Enjoying the ride with rawhide! I hope I will ;) Thanks, Clemens -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: KDE 4.2 requires local MySQL Server
Sorry for that off-topic question, but have the KDE4.2 packages already been released for regular online update (for F10), or are they still in testing? Thanks, Clemens -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Linux users want better desktop performance (Screw data. Prioritize code)
> http://rudd-o.com/en/linux-and-free-software/tales-from-responsivenessland-why-linux-feels-slow-and-how-to-fix-that > What is you comment? My comment is that this may be one thing which improves perceived performance. However to say its that simple and changing this one property is all you need is a very bold statement. Very often perceived performance has to do with how fast GUI apps react, and thats not really covered by that property at all. - Clemens -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Howto configure a static IP?
Hi, I've just installed Fedora10 and after the KDE4.2 update everything seems really smooth. By the way thanks for including the nouveau driver :) However we have static IPs here, so I disabled NetworkManager and set up eth0 manually using system-config-??. That works well, but now some applications think they are not connected to the internet (firefox, system-config-software), I guess because they depend on NetworkManager. Is there a way I can setup NetworkManager to use static IPs, or (I would prefer that route) to tell applications that they should not depend on NetworkManager for internet connectivity? Thank you in advance, Clemens -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Problem updating Fedora11-alpha to latest rawhide
Hi, Updating my fresh installation of Fedora-11-alpha to rawhide gave me: glibc-2.9.90-2.i386 from installed has depsolving problems --> Missing Dependency: glibc-common = 2.9.90-2 is needed by package glibc-2.9.90-2.i386 (installed) Error: Missing Dependency: glibc-common = 2.9.90-2 is needed by package glibc-2.9.90-2.i386 (installed) Any ideas how to solve that problem? Thank you in advance, Clemens -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problem updating Fedora11-alpha to latest rawhide
Hi Paolo, Thanks a lot for your advice, downloading the newer glibc-archives worked well, however installing them failed. Any idea what went wrong again? Thanks, Clemens [r...@localhost ce]# rpm -Uvh glibc-* warning: glibc-2.9.90-8.1.i586.rpm: Header V3 RSA/SHA256 signature: NOKEY, key ID d22e77f2 Preparing... ### [100%] 1:glibc ### [ 50%] error: unpacking of archive failed on file /etc/ld.so.conf;49b95bcb: cpio: MD5 sum mismatch 2:glibc-common ### [100%] error: unpacking of archive failed on file /etc/default/nss;49b95bcb: cpio: MD5 sum mismatch 2009/3/12, Paolo Galtieri : > See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=486616. You can try the > following: > > yumdownloader glibc.i586 glibc-common.i586 > > rpm -Uvh glibc* > > The first command downloads the glibc rpm's to the local directory. The > second > command updates the glibc version. Trying to do an rpm -i glibc* will > result > in conflicts. Doing an update seems to work. Afterwards I did > > yum -y update > > and all the packages updated without problems > > Paolo > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 2:58 AM, Clemens Eisserer > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Updating my fresh installation of Fedora-11-alpha to rawhide gave me: >> >> glibc-2.9.90-2.i386 from installed has depsolving problems >> --> Missing Dependency: glibc-common = 2.9.90-2 is needed by package >> glibc-2.9.90-2.i386 (installed) >> Error: Missing Dependency: glibc-common = 2.9.90-2 is needed by >> package glibc-2.9.90-2.i386 (installed) >> >> Any ideas how to solve that problem? >> >> Thank you in advance, Clemens >> >> -- >> fedora-list mailing list >> fedora-list@redhat.com >> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list >> Guidelines: >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines >> > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problem updating Fedora11-alpha to latest rawhide
Sorry for all the traffic guys. Solved the problem by: - Downloading and updating rpm-4.6.0-8 manually - Removing the cache database - Updating the glibc headers now I am waiting for the ~700mb updates to arrive ;) Thanks again, Clemens 2009/3/12 Clemens Eisserer : > Hi Paolo, > > Thanks a lot for your advice, downloading the newer glibc-archives > worked well, however installing them failed. > > Any idea what went wrong again? > > Thanks, Clemens > > [r...@localhost ce]# rpm -Uvh glibc-* > warning: glibc-2.9.90-8.1.i586.rpm: Header V3 RSA/SHA256 signature: > NOKEY, key ID d22e77f2 > Preparing... > ### [100%] > 1:glibc > ### [ 50%] > error: unpacking of archive failed on file /etc/ld.so.conf;49b95bcb: > cpio: MD5 sum mismatch > 2:glibc-common ### [100%] > error: unpacking of archive failed on file /etc/default/nss;49b95bcb: > cpio: MD5 sum mismatch > > > > > 2009/3/12, Paolo Galtieri : >> See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=486616. You can try the >> following: >> >> yumdownloader glibc.i586 glibc-common.i586 >> >> rpm -Uvh glibc* >> >> The first command downloads the glibc rpm's to the local directory. The >> second >> command updates the glibc version. Trying to do an rpm -i glibc* will >> result >> in conflicts. Doing an update seems to work. Afterwards I did >> >> yum -y update >> >> and all the packages updated without problems >> >> Paolo >> >> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 2:58 AM, Clemens Eisserer >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Updating my fresh installation of Fedora-11-alpha to rawhide gave me: >>> >>> glibc-2.9.90-2.i386 from installed has depsolving problems >>> --> Missing Dependency: glibc-common = 2.9.90-2 is needed by package >>> glibc-2.9.90-2.i386 (installed) >>> Error: Missing Dependency: glibc-common = 2.9.90-2 is needed by >>> package glibc-2.9.90-2.i386 (installed) >>> >>> Any ideas how to solve that problem? >>> >>> Thank you in advance, Clemens >>> >>> -- >>> fedora-list mailing list >>> fedora-list@redhat.com >>> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list >>> Guidelines: >>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines >>> >> > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Swap partition moved -> resume broken
Hi, Recently I moved my swap parition a bit, it seems this caused the UID to change. I simply changed /etc/fstab and replaced the UID value with /dev/sda2 which worked well. However I don't know howto get resume from disk working again. It seems the old UID is still passed to the kernel on resume, which can't find it and continues with a normal boot :-/ Any idea howto solve that? Thank you in advamce, Clemens -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Swap partition moved -> resume broken
Hi Tim, > Make a new initrd, that's where it's set. If you don't know how, ask > the list again. Are you sure? I always thought its passed by a kernel-parameter. Also the bootloader is re-written to automatically start the hibernated system once. Thanks, Clemens > > -- > [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r > 2.6.27.19-78.2.30.fc9.i686 > > Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I > read messages from the public lists. > > > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Running a web server on 256 RAM
yes, sure. I have a P90/24mb running apache+postgres, however on a slightly outdated debian. - Clemens 2009/3/16 James Matthews : > Hi, > > I am wondering if I am able to run a webserver (Apache,MySql) for my > wordpress blog and django site on 256 megs ram. Yes I know everything is > possible however I wish to upgrade from shared hosting to a VPS (Slicehost > or Linode I didn't decide yet) and I am wondering if it will work out. > > -- > http://www.astorandblack.com > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10 and built-in Intel graphics
Hi really hope the intel-devs get it right soon. Starting with Fedora9 2D performance decreased from release to release, and intel-2.6 was totally broken. Now I am testing 2.6.902 and it frequently hangs and leaks tons of memory. Although performance has recovered in some cases, some applications (GTK1, Java) are barely useable. Yes, there's a lot new code (and a lot forked, too) and a lot of improvements, but what was shipped with 2.6 as stable was pre-beta. - Clemens -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10 and built-in Intel graphics
Hi, > I got hold of a brand new Nvidia GeForce FX5200 PCI card for £33 ( I > am in the UK ) and at lunchtime today found a short time to change it over. This card was introduced in 2003 or 2004 and is only supported by nvidia's legacy drivers :-/ A cheap 8400GS (or even better an ATI card where specs are open) or something like that might have been a better choice. If you've some luck you still can exchange it. - Clemens -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: which driver to use for ATI HD2400 mobile.
Hi, > radeon (xorg ati) or radeonhd ? I would recommend ati, but both ati and radeonhd are based on the same accalereation code. > Also if known, which will as first support 3D for this and if known when? Both at ~ the same time. Its done when its done. Not very far for now. - Clemens -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Routing problems with rawhide
Hi, I use my Laptop to route my brothers computer to the internet through my UMTS modem. With Fedora 8 it was enough to enable ip-forewarding and masquerading: > echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward > /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE However with Fedora11 my brother can ping my two IPs (eth0 and ppp0), but no ip of the internet. Do you have any idea what could be the cause? Btw. I have selinux disabled. Thank you in advance, Clemens My routing table: [r...@localhost ce]# /sbin/route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 10.64.64.64 * 255.255.255.255 UH0 00 ppp0 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 default * 0.0.0.0 U 0 00 ppp0 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Routing problems with rawhide
Hi again, If nobody can help here, do you have some ideas howto debug that routing problem? Whats your typical way of finding whats going wrong? Thanks, Clemens 2009/4/6 Clemens Eisserer : > Hi, > > I use my Laptop to route my brothers computer to the internet through > my UMTS modem. > > With Fedora 8 it was enough to enable ip-forewarding and masquerading: >> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward >> /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE > > However with Fedora11 my brother can ping my two IPs (eth0 and ppp0), > but no ip of the internet. > > Do you have any idea what could be the cause? > Btw. I have selinux disabled. > > Thank you in advance, Clemens > > My routing table: > [r...@localhost ce]# /sbin/route > Kernel IP routing table > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface > 10.64.64.64 * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 0 ppp0 > 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 > default * 0.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 ppp0 > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
routing problems with f11
Hi, I have I server which routes a private network to the internet through ppp. All I had to do on Fedora-8 was: > /sbin/ifconfig eth0 up 192.168.1.1 > echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward > /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE However with Fedora-11 this doesn't work anymore. Packes simply are not forewarded anymore. The routing tables look 1:1 the same: Fedora8: > 10.64.64.64 * 255.255.255.255 UH0 00 ppp0 > 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 > default * 0.0.0.0 U 0 00 ppp0 Fedora11: > 10.64.64.64 * 255.255.255.255 UH0 00 ppp0 > 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 > default * 0.0.0.0 U 0 00 ppp0 Any idea what the problem could be, or how I can debug that problem. I already asked at fedora-forums as well as on this list once, but nobody had any clue whats going on here :-/ Thank you in advance, Clemens -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Grub timeout ignored?
Hello, I am running Fedora 12, and I have the problem that grub seems to ignore the timeout-value set. In /etc/grub.conf I've set timeout=5 however grub always skips the menu, and loads the first/default entry immediatly. Any ideas what could be the problem? Thank you in advance, Clemens -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Grub timeout ignored?
> You probably sitll have the menu hidedn. Look for the line in your > /boot/grub/grub.conf that says: > hiddenmenu > and comment it out with a #. > Set timeout to 10. For some reason, 5 is too short. Thanks for both suggestions. Hiddenmenu is not enabled (in fact I can see the grub menu for a very short period of time), and timeout=10 doesn't change anything. Grub behaves very much like after suspend-to-disk: Showing the menu only short, but loading Linux immediatly. I would be thankful for any hints you could give me :) Thanks, Clemens -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
