Re: mac usb drive problem with F11
On Wednesday 06 January 2010 08:48:24 pm Chris Smart wrote: > 2010/1/7 Dave Stevens : > > I'd like to mount a (WD) mac usb drive in F11. It has a hfsplus > > filesystem on it. I can mount it and copy data to it but when I look in > > the drive I see no new data, just what was already there. Any > > suggestions? > > Does Linux have write support for hfsplus yet? Or only hfs? > > -c I guess the answer to that is no. D -- >From outside our borders, the climate crisis doesn't look anything like the meteors or space invaders that Todd Stern imagined hurtling toward Earth. It looks, instead, like a long and silent war waged by the rich against the poor. Naomi Klein -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mac usb drive problem with F11
On Friday 08 January 2010 10:10:57 am Rick Stevens wrote: > On 01/07/2010 02:34 PM, Chris Smart wrote: > > 2010/1/8 Rick Stevens: > >> AFAIK, only HFS, HFS+ (journaled HFS) isn't there yet. > > > > Yes, that's what I thought. Interestingly though his mount command > > shows that it's mounted rw, yet if he couldn't write to it I'd expect > > some kind of error. > > IIRC (and my experience had to do with using an iPod as a drive, so > keep that in mind), you didn't get an error from the write. I think > the write occurred as far as Linux was concerned, but the device > wouldn't actually commit the write to disk because of the journal. > > Once you turned off journaling, writes generated an SELinux error. > That should be fixed (HFS is supposed to be treated the same as NFS in > later SELinux versions). I had BZ'd that glitch and I think that was > the response. > > > So Dave, under OS X you can turn journalling OFF on the device, then > > reboot into Linux and try it without journalling. > > It's something like: > > > > sudo diskutil disableJournal /Volumes/VOLUME_NAME Thanks to all who answered. I tried mounting it with -force, which in principle ought to have permitted writes, but even though the write operation went as I would have expected (messages about copying n files then n-1 files all the way down to zero), after the copy I saw no new data on the drive. PITA. So now I've copied all the data to a ntfs usb drive and will next plug that into the macbook pro to see if I can get the data there. And the hfsplus volume works with the macbook pro, so in principle. crossing my fingers... Dave > > -- > - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ri...@nerd.com - > - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - > -- > - If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes... - > - ...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it! - > -- -- >From outside our borders, the climate crisis doesn't look anything like the meteors or space invaders that Todd Stern imagined hurtling toward Earth. It looks, instead, like a long and silent war waged by the rich against the poor. Naomi Klein -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
mac usb drive problem with F11
I'd like to mount a (WD) mac usb drive in F11. It has a hfsplus filesystem on it. I can mount it and copy data to it but when I look in the drive I see no new data, just what was already there. Any suggestions? mtab: [d...@davehost ~]$ cat /etc/mtab /dev/mapper/vg_davehost-lv_root / ext4 rw 0 0 proc /proc proc rw 0 0 sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0 devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,gid=5,mode=620 0 0 /dev/sda1 /boot ext3 rw 0 0 tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0 none /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc binfmt_misc rw 0 0 sunrpc /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs rpc_pipefs rw 0 0 gvfs-fuse-daemon /home/dave/.gvfs fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon rw,nosuid,nodev,user=dave 0 0 /dev/sr0 /media/Bluebirds iso9660 ro,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=devkit,uid=500,gid=500,iocharset=utf8,mode=0400,dmode=0500 0 /dev/sdf3 /media/My\040Passport hfsplus rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=devkit 0 0 -- "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." Krishnamurti -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
fedorafaq?
anybody know what happened to fedorafaq.org? Still showing F10 as their current version. Dave -- "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." Krishnamurti -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
-ck with Fedora?
Does anyone have experience to report in using the new -ck kernel patches? Dave -- "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." Krishnamurti -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Name of fedora lists - you're kidding right?
Quoting Mail Lists : Suggestion: May I suggest as we move to the new mailling list server, that we please change the name(s) from the current long (and goofy) one(s) such as: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." to something more concise ? thanks. I dunno, I don't have to retype this so as long as it makes sense I not only have no objection but I think the explicitness makes it desirable for the many list subscribers who do not have English as their first language. Dave -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." Krishnamurti -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Question about internal hard drives
Quoting Kevin O'Neil : Greetings, I have a question. Is it better to have multiple hard drives or will just one be ok? I have a box that can have up to 2T...should I use two 1T or 4 500Gb? Pros, cons welcomed. My preference has always been to have more than one of pretty much any component, if one fails you are in trouble, but it's a lot better than everything going at once. You could have a Fedora disk and a separate disk for /home or maybe a mirrored drive so two copies of /home. HTH Dave Thanks, Kevin Mail Service Provided by: Kevins Lair, Ent mailto:ke...@kevinslair.com _ Think before you print. This message and any attachments may contain information that is protected by law as privileged and confidential, and is transmitted for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, copying or retention of this e-mail or the information contained herein is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by e-mail, and permanently delete this e-mail. All outgoing e-mail is scanned for virus and potentially hazardous material _ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- When addiction becomes commonplace in a society, people become addicted not only to alcohol and drugs, but to a thousand other destructive pursuits: money, power, dysfunctional relationships, or video games. A social perspective on addiction does not deny individual differences in vulnerability to addiction, but it removes them from the foreground of attention, because social determinants are more powerful. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Interview with Paul Frields about Fedora 12 and the Fedora community
Quoting Bruce Byfield : In case anyone is interested; http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3848891/Building-On-Ramps- on-the-Fedora-12-Highway.htm Bruce, you gotta use tinyurl. Dave -- Bruce Byfield 604-421-7177 (on Pacific Time) Burnaby, BC, Canada -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
recovering mp3 files
I have an external drive formatted ntfs that had some mp3 files that were erased by mistake. I've tried both foremost and scalpel to recover them but neither supports mp3 file format. Does anyone have a suggestion about a program that might work for this? Dave -- Canada must refuse to be entangled in any more wars fought to make the world safe for capitalism. -- The Regina Manifesto, 1933 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Simple desktop benchmark
On Monday 21 September 2009 07:14:58 am Valent Turkovic wrote: > Hi, > I would like to compare two desktop machines with some simple but > relevant benchmark. It there some app that I can use to compare speeds > between two laptops both running Fedora 11? > > Cheers! you might want to look at www.phoronix.com; they are doing a lot with their phoronix test suite. Caveat emptor! meaningful testing results require meaningful effort. Dave > > > > -- > pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt > http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ > linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless > registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. > ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic -- Canada must refuse to be entangled in any more wars fought to make the world safe for capitalism. -- The Regina Manifesto, 1933 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: raid stripe size vs performance
> Which is fine for read-only use, while it may hurt your write. Also note > that many controllers use the term "raid-10" when they really mean "raid > 1+0" which isn't the same at all as Linux software raid-10. That's news to me Bill, and I'm thinking of setting up a F11 raid 10 system. Can you refer me to a source for your statement? Thanks, Dave > > > As always, "large" and "small" file sizes are subjective terms and > > there is no substitute for benchmarking your own particular case - and > > this is a hotly contested subject among Storage gurus! > > Hell, people can't even agree on what the terms mean, in some cases. > > -- > Bill Davidsen >"We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from > the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot -- Canada must refuse to be entangled in any more wars fought to make the world safe for capitalism. -- The Regina Manifesto, 1933 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
SELinux, F11 issue?
Hi, I have a dual hard drive setup with F7 on one drive and F11 on the other. Using the new F11 install I can't check my bank account online, something I do a lot. I only use one install at a time, powering down and changing cables from one drive to the other so that the installs don't interact. When I first installed F11 I became aware of this issue right away and figured SELinux might be the culprit so I disabled it, using the provided tool. No dice. I don't know what to try now, any suggestions? The site in question is www.bvcu.com. At the top right is a link with link text "Personal." When in F7 I click that and get to a login page, with F11 I get a server not found error: "Server not found Firefox can't find the server at www6.memberdirect.net." Thanks in advance, Dave -- When addiction becomes commonplace in a society, people become addicted not only to alcohol and drugs, but to a thousand other destructive pursuits: money, power, dysfunctional relationships, or video games. A social perspective on addiction does not deny individual differences in vulnerability to addiction, but it removes them from the foreground of attention, because social determinants are more powerful. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: New Community Radio logos - pick one
On Thursday 20 August 2009 03:47:17 pm Dave Stevens wrote: > On Thursday 20 August 2009 11:08:28 am Glen Ingram wrote: > > Hi gang sorry, misdirected, please ignore this. Dave > > > > Facundo has designed a couple new logos for us to use for the radio > > station. We will be using them in our media from now on. He has two to > > pick from. Pick your favourite and let me know. > > I like the mike! > -- Canada must refuse to be entangled in any more wars fought to make the world safe for capitalism. -- The Regina Manifesto, 1933 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: New Community Radio logos - pick one
On Thursday 20 August 2009 11:08:28 am Glen Ingram wrote: > Hi gang > > Facundo has designed a couple new logos for us to use for the radio > station. We will be using them in our media from now on. He has two to > pick from. Pick your favourite and let me know. I like the mike! > > Other updates: > > Our studio space has been selected and we have begun work on it. The > volunteer carpenter will begin to assist us on his return from vacation > in a week and a half. We will let you know when time comes where we > could use your help. > > Fall Fair - We are going to try to get a float in the fall fair parade > next Wednesday. We also hope to have a sample online stream for people > to check out by that time too (Dave, can you help me with this?) yes, make a date, sooner is better, in the PM is better too. > . If > you have some programming already recorded with intro and outro, let me > have it and I will include it in the stream. > > Equipment - Facundo, Abdel and I have made a shortlist of equipment that > we can afford to purchase. To stretch our budget, we will be making use > of some borrowed and used equipment. If you know of someone who may > have sound equipment (speakers, record player, etc.) that they want to > get rid of, let me know. > > That's about it. Hope y'all having a great summer. > > Glen -- Canada must refuse to be entangled in any more wars fought to make the world safe for capitalism. -- The Regina Manifesto, 1933 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Discussion -- perhaps a trollette -- re: upgrades !
On Wednesday 19 August 2009 06:43:35 pm Tim wrote: > On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 16:42 -0700, Dave Stevens wrote: > > and on that point, I've done kernel upgrades to my Centos 5.3 box many > > times with no reboot. > > Do you *just* mean doing a "kernel upgrade" or do you mean an upgrade > and *using* the new kernel, too? yes, both. Last reboot on the old serevr beside me was 148 days ago and three kernel updates that I recall. [r...@cserver ~]# uname -a Linux cserver.davedomain 2.6.18-128.1.6.el5 #1 SMP Wed Apr 1 09:19:18 EDT 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux Dave > > -- > [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r > 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 > > Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I > read messages from the public lists. -- Canada must refuse to be entangled in any more wars fought to make the world safe for capitalism. -- The Regina Manifesto, 1933 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Discussion -- perhaps a trollette -- re: upgrades !
On Wednesday 19 August 2009 07:43:15 am Dave Ihnat wrote: > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 10:35:12AM -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > > Mostly that it is really really hard to do right and > > you'd probably never get the kind of discipline and > > testing require from the wild west open source > > community :-). > > Actually, this has already been done with Ksplice (http://www.ksplice.com). > > It claims to run with Ubuntu, RHEL, CentOS, Parallels, Debian, and SuSE. > > Cheers, > -- > Dave Ihnat > dih...@dminet.com and on that point, I've done kernel upgrades to my Centos 5.3 box many times with no reboot. Dave -- Canada must refuse to be entangled in any more wars fought to make the world safe for capitalism. -- The Regina Manifesto, 1933 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fedora "consumer satisfaction" statistics
Quoting Antonio Olivares : It has been my experience here that few, very few, people write in and say that 'everything is beautiful. Everything works out-of-the-box. All is wonderful. :-) After all it is a help list not a praise list. snip! That's true but Fedora is still a very clean innovative distro that pleases an awful lot of its users, me included. The 20 second boot time is very very nice. I used to have a windows 95 box on a Pentium 75 MHz CPU that booted to a desktop in about 30 seconds and let me start WP7 in about 10 seconds after that. It isn't nostalgia that makes me appreciate F11, it is because it's a good productive system. And I get updated versions of all the most common software with the new release. In fact, on my computer EVERYTHING in F11 works better and faster than in F7. I don't think we need to be MS driven, but this is the exact opposite of the Redmond Way, and gives me more and more out of my hardware at no cost except for my time, which I am happy to spend in the routinely fulfilled expectation that it will be worthwhile. So that's pretty good. Dave -- When addiction becomes commonplace in a society, people become addicted not only to alcohol and drugs, but to a thousand other destructive pursuits: money, power, dysfunctional relationships, or video games. A social perspective on addiction does not deny individual differences in vulnerability to addiction, but it removes them from the foreground of attention, because social determinants are more powerful. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
fresh install of F11 using ati 4770 defauilts to vesa
Hi, I just installed a Sapphire Radeon 4770 card and then installed F11 and updated it. The glxgears rate reported is 200 fps, compared to about 5500 using the previous X1600 card with the ATI proprietary driver. Looking at /var/log/Xorg.0.log shows the device detected as vesa. How would I override this? and with what, radeon? D like this: (==) --- Start of built-in configuration --- Section "Device" Identifier "Builtin Default ati Device 0" Driver "ati" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Builtin Default ati Screen 0" Device "Builtin Default ati Device 0" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Builtin Default vesa Device 0" Driver "vesa" -- When addiction becomes commonplace in a society, people become addicted not only to alcohol and drugs, but to a thousand other destructive pursuits: money, power, dysfunctional relationships, or video games. A social perspective on addiction does not deny individual differences in vulnerability to addiction, but it removes them from the foreground of attention, because social determinants are more powerful. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: this is why I hate changing Fedora versions [long text]
well, here it is in all its ugly glory, I don't see that it tells me
anything useful, though. In the places where I think I can tell what
it is saying I think it just confirms that the outputs are not muted.
Dave
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Re: this is why I hate changing Fedora versions
Quoting Kevin Kofler : Dave Stevens wrote: and I thought that since my ATI1600 video card was being dropped by ATI, maybe I had better upgrade. Then when I install the Sapphire 4770 card I will get updates Uh, the X1600 works just fine (with 3D support, since Fedora 9 updates) with the Free Software drivers which are actually IN Fedora, there's no reason to "upgrade" to a HD4770 which requires the proprietary driver for 3D. Kevin Kofler yes, the upgrade is driven also by the huge potential increase in processing power, 600+ shaders vs. 16, 45 nm tech, low power and dvi support as well. I think the 3D support for the 4770 will come along, ATI seems to be pretty consistently playing nice with the community. Dave -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- In the world?s anti-Bush zones it is fashionable to regard him as an imperialist redneck of limited intellectual capacities. -- George Ross in Le Monde Diplomatique -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: this is why I hate changing Fedora versions
On Saturday 20 June 2009 03:16:28 pm stan wrote: > On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:37:18 -0700 > > Dave Stevens wrote: > > Apart from Ubuntu, does anyone have a suggestion where else I can > > look to get things working? The system _thinks_ it's working, kplayer > > chugs through Sweet Home Chicago just as if it was doing something > > useful, but no tune. > > > > Dave > > The script below will tell you about the sound configuration of your > system. If you run with the --noupload option, it will put the > information on your local system, else it will upload to a website > and give you a link. It might show you what is wrong. And if it > doesn't, you could post the link here so people can see what your > system configuration is as well. > > http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh > > Yes, Madame alsa-info will tell you all. Does your new video card have > a sound device in it? Has it displaced your Ensoniq as default > device? Do you have a modprobe.conf? Is it setting your Ensoniq as > device 0? If run as root, Madame will show you even deeper secrets > about your hardware. She sees all, she tells all. Only $20 and your > first born. thanks for your suggestions, I'll try Madame. I don't yet have the new video card installed, I wanted to start with something that I know works, even if it, like me, is showing its age a little. dave -- Canada must refuse to be entangled in any more wars fought to make the world safe for capitalism. -- The Regina Manifesto, 1933 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
this is why I hate changing Fedora versions
I had a good F7 version that did pretty much everything I wanted. But it was no longer getting updates and I thought that since my ATI1600 video card was being dropped by ATI, maybe I had better upgrade. Then when I install the Sapphire 4770 card I will get updates and if I'm reading my mail correctly there is likely to be good open source support for the 3D graphic capabilities in the near term. Fine. So I switched to the new HD and installed F11 x86_64 fresh. The sound doesn't work. OK, what about muting? yes? Yes. The sound was muted by default. So I unmuted it. Still no sound. Go to System -> Preferences -> Advanced Volume Control. no joy. Check the plug on the back of the box, is it plugged in? yes. To the right little hole? yes. Just where it was when I switched and it worked then. Volume turned up on the speakers? yes. Don't know what else to check. The card is a little Ensoniq Sound Blaster compatible I've had for years. I don't do any tricks with it, just play tunes. I now remember going through this little dance two years ago or so when I went from FC5 to F7. Isn't it brain dead to ship a distribution with the sound muted by default? Apart from Ubuntu, does anyone have a suggestion where else I can look to get things working? The system _thinks_ it's working, kplayer chugs through Sweet Home Chicago just as if it was doing something useful, but no tune. Dave -- In the world?s anti-Bush zones it is fashionable to regard him as an imperialist redneck of limited intellectual capacities. -- George Ross in Le Monde Diplomatique -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: how to start KDE in F11?
Quoting Tom Horsley : On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:14:24 -0700 Dave Stevens wrote: I've just switched from F7 and don't find the desktop environment choice at login, where do I look for this? The ever helpful gnome (so-called) designers have chosen to not show that option at all until you type (or select) a user name, then, rather than appearing near your line of sight in the login dialog box, it appears down at the bottom of the screen on the bar down there where they hope no one will notice it so everyone will use their ever so perfect gnome interface all the time :-). h seems like an odd choice for the reasons you give. But while we are on the topic I also can't see how to bump my workspaces up to six from the default four, so I'd be happy to have help with that too. Is there a summary I can read of changes like this? Dave -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- In the world?s anti-Bush zones it is fashionable to regard him as an imperialist redneck of limited intellectual capacities. -- George Ross in Le Monde Diplomatique -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
how to start KDE in F11?
I've just switched from F7 and don't find the desktop environment choice at login, where do I look for this? Dave -- In the world?s anti-Bush zones it is fashionable to regard him as an imperialist redneck of limited intellectual capacities. -- George Ross in Le Monde Diplomatique -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: glxgears nonsense on F11
Quoting Frank Cox : On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:30:43 -0700 Dave Stevens wrote: Does anyone know what this is or what to do? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501312 -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com OK, thanks. Dave -- In the world?s anti-Bush zones it is fashionable to regard him as an imperialist redneck of limited intellectual capacities. -- George Ross in Le Monde Diplomatique -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
glxgears nonsense on F11
I have used glxgears for several years, most recently on F7. I've just moved to F11 x86_64 on a new hard drive and the system is now up to date. When I run glxgears I get the gear display in the yop left corner, just as I expect but instead of getting the frame rate display in the terminal window I get endless ream of this: CS section size missmatch start at (r300_cmdbuf.c,emit_cb_offset,254) 16 vs 7 CS section end at (r300_cmdbuf.c,emit_cb_offset,264) CS section size missmatch start at (r300_cmdbuf.c,emit_cb_offset,254) 16 vs 7 CS section end at (r300_cmdbuf.c,emit_cb_offset,264) CS section size missmatch start at (r300_cmdbuf.c,emit_cb_offset,254) 16 vs 7 CS section end at (r300_cmdbuf.c,emit_cb_offset,264) CS section size missmatch start at (r300_cmdbuf.c,emit_cb_offset,254) 16 vs 7 CS section end at (r300_cmdbuf.c,emit_cb_offset,264) CS section size missmatch start at (r300_cmdbuf.c,emit_cb_offset,254) 16 vs 7 CS section end at (r300_cmdbuf.c,emit_cb_offset,264) CS section size missmatch start at (r300_cmdbuf.c,emit_cb_offset,254) 16 vs 7 CS section end at (r300_cmdbuf.c,emit_cb_offset,264) CS section size missmatch start at (r300_cmdbuf.c,emit_cb_offset,254) 16 vs 7 CS section end at (r300_cmdbuf.c,emit_cb_offset,264) CS section size missmatch start at (r300_cmdbuf.c,emit_cb_offset,254) 16 vs 7 CS section end at (r300_cmdbuf.c,emit_cb_offset,264) and no frame rate display. Does anyone know what this is or what to do? Dave -- In the world?s anti-Bush zones it is fashionable to regard him as an imperialist redneck of limited intellectual capacities. -- George Ross in Le Monde Diplomatique -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) on fresh F11 install [Fixed!]
Quoting Kam Leo : On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Dave Stevens wrote: like this: [d...@davehost yum.repos.d]$ cat fedora.repo [fedora] name=Fedora $releasever - $basearch failovermethod=priority #baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/$releasever/Everything/$basearch/os/ mirrorlist=https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=fedora-$releasever&arch=$basearch enabled=1 metadata_expire=7d gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-$basearch Try disabling the mirrorlist and enabling the baseurl. Do the same for fedora-updates.repo. yes, that worked. Thanks very much, I'll figure out the mirrors next. Dave If that works go to http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/11/ and find a mirror that is close to you geographically. Add the mirror as the primary repo or use it in place of http://download.fedoraproject.org . E.g. $ cat fedora.repo [fedora] name=Fedora $releasever - $basearch failovermethod=priority baseurl=http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/fedora/linux/releases/$releasever/Everything/$basearch/os/ http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/$releasever/Everything/$basearch/os/ # mirrorlist=https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=fedora-$releasever&arch=$basearch enabled=1 metadata_expire=7d gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-$basearch -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- In the world?s anti-Bush zones it is fashionable to regard him as an imperialist redneck of limited intellectual capacities. -- George Ross in Le Monde Diplomatique -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) on fresh F11 install
like this: [d...@davehost yum.repos.d]$ cat fedora.repo [fedora] name=Fedora $releasever - $basearch failovermethod=priority #baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/$releasever/Everything/$basearch/os/ mirrorlist=https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=fedora-$releasever&arch=$basearch enabled=1 metadata_expire=7d gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-$basearch [fedora-debuginfo] name=Fedora $releasever - $basearch - Debug failovermethod=priority #baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/$releasever/Everything/$basearch/debug/ mirrorlist=https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=fedora-debug-$releasever&arch=$basearch enabled=0 metadata_expire=7d gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-$basearch [fedora-source] name=Fedora $releasever - Source failovermethod=priority #baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/$releasever/Everything/source/SRPMS/ mirrorlist=https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=fedora-source-$releasever&arch=$basearch enabled=0 metadata_expire=7d gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-$basearch [d...@davehost yum.repos.d]$ -- In the world?s anti-Bush zones it is fashionable to regard him as an imperialist redneck of limited intellectual capacities. -- George Ross in Le Monde Diplomatique -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) on fresh F11 install
Quoting Kam Leo : On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Dave Stevens wrote: details as below. happens on updates too. Anyone? Dave [d...@davehost ~]$ yum list k3b Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: fedora. Please verify its path and try again [r...@davehost yum.repos.d]# yum update Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: fedora. Please verify its path and try again [r...@davehost yum.repos.d]# Have you done either "yum clean metadata" or "yum clean all"? yes. see here: [r...@davehost dave]# yum clean metadata Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit 0 metadata files removed 0 sqlite files removed 0 metadata files removed [r...@davehost dave]# yum update Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: fedora. Please verify its path and try again [r...@davehost dave]# yum clean all Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit Cleaning up Everything [r...@davehost dave]# yum update Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: fedora. Please verify its path and try again [r...@davehost dave]# -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- In the world?s anti-Bush zones it is fashionable to regard him as an imperialist redneck of limited intellectual capacities. -- George Ross in Le Monde Diplomatique -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) on fresh F11 install
details as below. happens on updates too. Anyone? Dave [d...@davehost ~]$ yum list k3b Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: fedora. Please verify its path and try again [r...@davehost yum.repos.d]# yum update Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: fedora. Please verify its path and try again [r...@davehost yum.repos.d]# -- In the world?s anti-Bush zones it is fashionable to regard him as an imperialist redneck of limited intellectual capacities. -- George Ross in Le Monde Diplomatique -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Graphics card recommendation?
On Monday 01 June 2009 07:03:21 am Timothy Murphy wrote: > I'm looking for a graphics card satisfying the following criteria: > > 1. Cheap > 2. T&L capability > 3. Works under Fedora-10, if possible as is. > > [This is for a desktop with an Asus K8V-MX motherboard. > I need the T&L feature for my grand-daughter to play Sims-2 > under Windows XP.] > > Any and all suggestions gratefully received. > > > -- > Timothy Murphy > e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net > tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 > s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin well why not the Sapphire 4770? It isn't very expensive and has had excellent reviews. Dave -- Canada must refuse to be entangled in any more wars fought to make the world safe for capitalism. -- The Regina Manifesto, 1933 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: hardware for fedora
On Tuesday 26 May 2009 05:46:18 pm Stuart McGraw wrote: > Dave Stevens wrote: > > Quoting Stuart McGraw : > >> Hello all, > >> > >> Time has come to replace my ancient circa 2001 > U.S., and say ~$1000 although I could go a few hundred > dollars over that if necessary. Well, others have commented already so I'll add my 2 bits worth. Heat and vibration are bad for computers so I pay attention to cooling and damping as routine high priorities. Most recently I bought an aluminum case, thinking that since steel is such a rotten conductor of heat I'd be better off with this material. In the year that I've had it (a Silverstone TJ-09) it has never even gotten warm. It also has three 12 cm. fans and a fairly low-tech video card pulling only about 30 watts. From an Antec Trio power supply (650 watts). My experience is that as you run gear closer to its design limits it gets flakier. It was my goal with this system to get decent performance with good reliability, so keeping it cool by over-speccing the PS was part of that. Some hard drive mounting schemes provide vibration damping, mine does - up to six 3.5" drives in a rubberized friction fit HD compartment. I also suggest figuring total power draw with the unit built up all the way, with all possible hard drives installed, RAM maxed out etc. Gives a good conservative design figure. For cpu I think you can't do better for a system under heavy load than Opterons, but trade-offs with video needs and storage configuration (RAID vs non-RAID, etc) will change this. If you gotta have the best possible video right now, you can expect to pay I think about $300 US. I have just ordered a Sapphire 4770, which has got very good reviews at a very nice price. I use Kingston Value RAM but that's because my mobo will support at most 667 MHz DDR2 memory. I am also using (for the first time) ECC Registered RAM, which costs more but is very nice in terms of reliability. Good luck with the build, let us know what you come up with, eh? Dave -- Canada must refuse to be entangled in any more wars fought to make the world safe for capitalism. -- The Regina Manifesto, 1933 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: hardware for fedora
Quoting Stuart McGraw : Hello all, Time has come to replace my ancient circa 2001 computers with something new. I will probably buy the parts and build them myself (although if anyone can recommend a vendor that uses high quality components, I'll consider that as well) but want to make sure I end up with systems that can run Fedora trouble free. I'm planning on two identical boxes, one running an Evil Empire OS, the other Fedora. I want good performance (the Fedora box will be running servers (postgresql, apache, postfix, dns, etc) as well as acting as an interactive development machine. Although I want good performance, having a trouble and complication-free install and operation is higher priority. why don't you tell us where you live (what country) and what kind of budget. Dave I have just spent several days of mostly fruitless googling and found large amounts of out-dated, questionable, ambiguous, contradictory, and other not-so-good info. What I would really like is a collection of tested specifications: "I used a Fruble-2500 motherboard, Caterpillar D50 Case, a Dustin Wigetal XZ123 250G hard drive, Sparker T800 800W power supply,...blah, blah..., and F10 installed and ran with no problems". Does any one have any hardware "recipes" like this (or a pointer to a web site with some?) Thanks. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- In the world�s anti-Bush zones it is fashionable to regard him as an imperialist redneck of limited intellectual capacities. -- George Ross in Le Monde Diplomatique -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Any recommendation for Groupware Software?
On Tuesday 05 May 2009 01:59:36 am Khemara Lyn wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm in the middle of choosing a Groupware software. I've been looking at 2 > of them now: OpenGroupware(oGo) and eGroupware. > > May I ask for some ideas from those with experience with the 2 systems? Any > recommendation would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks & regards, > Khem My experience with eGroupware was good. Ralf Becker, technical lead, is on the listserve quite a lot and was very helpful. Dave -- Canada must refuse to be entangled in any more wars fought to make the world safe for capitalism. -- The Regina Manifesto, 1933 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: phoronix-test-suite for Fedora?
On Saturday 02 May 2009 04:18:46 pm Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Sat, 2 May 2009 16:12:07 -0700 > > Dave Stevens wrote: > > Does anyone have experience to share making this work? The site talks > > about Ubuntu and not a lot else... > > yum install phoronix-test-suite > > and then run it? > > :) > : > > Dave > > kevin [d...@localhost ~]$ yum list phoronix-test-suite Loading "priorities" plugin Loading "skip-broken" plugin Error: No matching Packages to list [d...@localhost ~]$ uname -a Linux localhost.davedomain 2.6.23.17-88.fc7 #1 SMP Thu May 15 00:02:29 EDT 2008 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [d...@localhost ~]$ So maybe I have to wait for F11 when I'm planning to upgrade anyway. D -- Canada must refuse to be entangled in any more wars fought to make the world safe for capitalism. -- The Regina Manifesto, 1933 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
phoronix-test-suite for Fedora?
Does anyone have experience to share making this work? The site talks about Ubuntu and not a lot else... Dave -- Canada must refuse to be entangled in any more wars fought to make the world safe for capitalism. -- The Regina Manifesto, 1933 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Off topic - mobo recommendations
On Saturday 02 May 2009 12:12:44 pm Robert L Cochran wrote: > In my eyes AMD has fallen way behind the times. The Phenom X4 quad core > processors don't have much on-die L2 cache and the different package > profiles are a real pain. I don't know what is selling better for AMD, > their ATI-branded graphics boards or their processor lines. > > http://products.amd.com/en-us/comparison/DesktopCPU.aspx > > I just priced a very nice Dell Vostro 420 system. The Intel Q6600 quad > core processor offers 12M of L2 and based on my work with slower > versions of the Q6600...that is a lot of speed. It's probably cheaper > and more gratifying (in terms of real development products you produce) > to buy one of these rather than going with a self-built AMD system. Most > of my exposure is to the low end of both Intel and AMD consumer-focused > processors. I don't think I've worked with either Opteron or Xeon > processors for example. I wanted to build an Opteron system for myself, > but then I became really interested in building circuits and physical > computing. > > I don't know if the AMD Opteron processors are any better than the > Phenom X4. It's hard to get through the hype on AMD's website and look > at some Opteron comparison charts. > > Bob > > On 05/02/2009 02:40 PM, Tod Thomas wrote: > > I'm shopping for a new developer machine for which I'll be using > > Fedora as the development platform. Its been about about 7-8 years > > since I built a machine from scratch but since then I've accumulated a > > lot of parts that ultimately could contribute to a nice box if I had > > the right motherboard. > > > > I'm partial to AMD chips. I'm not a gamer but I do like nice visuals > > and decent sound. I've got a good video and sound card now but they > > are both 7-8 years old. I suspect things have changed a lot and > > almost wonder if newer motherboards don't offer better on board now. > > I plan on taking advantage of virtualization so I imagine memory and > > processing speed would be indicated. Over the long run I always seem > > to run out of PCI slots or USB ports so that would be a premium. > > Economy is also a bonus. I don't mind paying for performance and > > extensibility but if I could get something pretty decent at a low cost > > maybe I could buy a couple and replace another older board I have > > running. I also like BIOS's that are tweak friendly. > > > > Right now the fastest machine in my fleet is an Intel Pentium M 1.4 > > GHz running on a dell laptop. My desktop (development) is running an > > old AMD Thunderbird which I don't even think breaks 1GHz and has only > > .5Gb of onboard memory. > > > > Sorry for off topic, just thought this might be the best place to get > > an idea of what everybody else is using since we all share interest in > > the same development platform. Flame me directly, spare the list :) > > > > > > Thanks - Tod I use a self-built system with a Tyan s2932 motherboard. This is a dual opteron box with room for 64 gigs of RAM. I started using it a year ago with one cpu and 2 gigs. I wanted to not need to change the system for at least 5 years except by adding to a working unit. So this way I can add a socket F cpu and lots of RAM. The socket structure is the same one used for servers so is stable. The AMD vs Intel controversy is producing more heat than light but what I especially like about the Opteron design is that they behave well under extreme loads, they degrade gracefully when maxed out. I've been pretty happy, too with the TJ-09 case, it is roomy and aluminum is an excellet cooling material, unlike steel. Will hold six drives in the case in snap-out enclosures. I'm using an Antec Trio 600W supply, ATI graphics. Everything works well with F7, just about to go to F11 next month. Dave -- Canada must refuse to be entangled in any more wars fought to make the world safe for capitalism. -- The Regina Manifesto, 1933 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Seagate disk problems (NCQ bug???)
Quoting "Wolfgang S. Rupprecht" :
After running flawlessly for 6+ months I just had my Seagate
ST31500343AS (w. SD35 firmware) flake out. Does this look like the NCQ
bug or just a random event? The final error msg was around the time the
machine hung hard.
There is a specific test you can download from Seagate and burn to a
bootable cd. The test on the cd will tell you if it is the ncq bug.
They are offering data recovery if it is indeed a blown disk, they're
treating it as a warranty issue.
Dave
Apr 28 04:26:29 arbol kernel: ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 irq_stat
0x0040, PHY RDY changed irq 22
Apr 28 04:26:29 arbol kernel: ata1: softreset failed (device not ready)
Apr 28 04:26:29 arbol kernel: ata1: failed due to HW bug, retry pmp=0
Apr 28 04:26:29 arbol kernel: ata1: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus
123 SControl 300)
Apr 28 04:26:29 arbol kernel: ata1.00: ATA-8: ST31500343AS, SD35,
max UDMA/133
Apr 28 04:26:29 arbol kernel: ata1.00: 2930277168 sectors, multi 16:
LBA48 NCQ (depth 31/32)
Apr 28 04:26:29 arbol kernel: ata1.00: configured for UDMA/133
Apr 28 06:17:02 arbol kernel: ata1.00: exception Emask 0x50 SAct 0x1
SErr 0x90a02 action 0xe frozen
Apr 28 06:17:02 arbol kernel: ata1.00: irq_stat 0x0040, PHY RDY changed
Apr 28 06:17:02 arbol kernel: ata1: SError: { RecovComm Persist
HostInt PHYRdyChg 10B8B }
Apr 28 06:17:02 arbol kernel: ata1.00: cmd
60/08:00:e1:81:24/00:00:74:00:00/40 tag 0 ncq 4096 in
Apr 28 06:17:02 arbol kernel: res
40/00:00:e1:81:24/00:00:74:00:00/40 Emask 0x50 (ATA bus error)
Apr 28 06:17:02 arbol kernel: ata1.00: status: { DRDY }
Apr 28 06:17:02 arbol kernel: ata1: hard resetting link
Apr 28 06:17:04 arbol kernel: ata1: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus
123 SControl 300)
Apr 28 06:17:09 arbol kernel: ata1.00: qc timeout (cmd 0xec)
Apr 28 06:17:09 arbol kernel: ata1.00: failed to IDENTIFY (I/O
error, err_mask=0x4)
Apr 28 06:17:09 arbol kernel: ata1.00: revalidation failed (errno=-5)
Apr 28 06:17:09 arbol kernel: ata1: hard resetting link
Apr 28 06:17:11 arbol kernel: ata1: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus
123 SControl 300)
Apr 28 06:17:21 arbol kernel: ata1.00: qc timeout (cmd 0xec)
Apr 28 06:17:21 arbol kernel: ata1.00: failed to IDENTIFY (I/O
error, err_mask=0x4)
Apr 28 06:17:21 arbol kernel: ata1.00: revalidation failed (errno=-5)
Apr 28 06:17:21 arbol kernel: ata1: limiting SATA link speed to 1.5 Gbps
Apr 28 06:17:21 arbol kernel: ata1: hard resetting link
Apr 28 06:17:22 arbol kernel: ata1: softreset failed (device not ready)
Apr 28 06:17:22 arbol kernel: ata1: failed due to HW bug, retry pmp=0
Apr 28 06:17:22 arbol kernel: ata1: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus
113 SControl 310)
Apr 28 06:17:22 arbol kernel: ata1.00: configured for UDMA/133
Apr 28 06:17:22 arbol kernel: ata1: EH complete
Apr 28 06:17:22 arbol kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 2930277168 512-byte
hardware sectors (1500302 MB)
Apr 28 06:17:22 arbol kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
Apr 28 06:17:22 arbol kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache:
enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
Apr 28 06:24:03 arbol kernel: ata1: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0
SErr 0x90200 action 0xe frozen
Apr 28 06:24:03 arbol kernel: ata1: irq_stat 0x0040, PHY RDY changed
Apr 28 06:24:03 arbol kernel: ata1: SError: { Persist PHYRdyChg 10B8B }
Apr 28 06:24:03 arbol kernel: ata1: hard resetting link
Apr 28 06:24:05 arbol kernel: ata1: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus
113 SControl 310)
Apr 28 06:24:10 arbol kernel: ata1.00: qc timeout (cmd 0xec)
Apr 28 06:24:10 arbol kernel: ata1.00: failed to IDENTIFY (I/O
error, err_mask=0x4)
Apr 28 06:24:10 arbol kernel: ata1.00: revalidation failed (errno=-5)
Apr 28 06:24:10 arbol kernel: ata1: hard resetting link
Apr 28 06:24:12 arbol kernel: ata1: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus
113 SControl 310)
Apr 28 06:24:22 arbol kernel: ata1.00: qc timeout (cmd 0xec)
Apr 28 06:24:22 arbol kernel: ata1.00: failed to IDENTIFY (I/O
error, err_mask=0x4)
Apr 28 06:24:22 arbol kernel: ata1.00: revalidation failed (errno=-5)
Apr 28 06:24:22 arbol kernel: ata1: hard resetting link
Apr 28 06:24:23 arbol kernel: ata1: softreset failed (device not ready)
Apr 28 06:24:23 arbol kernel: ata1: failed due to HW bug, retry pmp=0
Apr 28 06:24:23 arbol kernel: ata1: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus
113 SControl 310)
Apr 28 06:24:24 arbol kernel: ata1.00: configured for UDMA/133
Apr 28 06:24:24 arbol kernel: ata1: EH complete
Apr 28 06:24:24 arbol kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 2930277168 512-byte
hardware sectors (1500302 MB)
Apr 28 06:24:24 arbol kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
Apr 28 06:24:24 arbol kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache:
enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
Apr 28 06:41:26 arbol kernel: ata1: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0
SErr 0x90200 action 0xe frozen
Apr 28 06:41:26 arbol kernel: ata1: irq_stat 0x0040, PHY RDY changed
Apr 28 06:41:26 arbol kernel: ata1: SError: { Persis
can't open .docx files using OO2.3 in F7
the subject line says it. I downloaded the current version fro Linux from OO.org and get a mass of rmps with dependencies. Suggestions? If I could open this file (and others like it) I'd keep the version. For those inclined to reccommend an upgrade I will do this when F11 is available but want to use the current version of Fedora for another month or so. dave -- Canada must refuse to be entangled in any more wars fought to make the world safe for capitalism. -- The Regina Manifesto, 1933 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: indirect nx access?
> > from your statement, it may be easy to forward different port, ie 23, > from the router to the small underpowered computer and change > sshd_config accordingly. forward port 22 to the freenx server. > > by the way, how can you install a nx client to a USB? the portable > apps (http://portableapps.com/) does not have this. I can't but every internet cafe I've been in uses windows and I can pack around the install .exe on the stick and do the install then and there. Dave > > > -- > > This message has been scanned for viruses and > > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > > believed to be clean. > > > > -- > > fedora-list mailing list > > fedora-list@redhat.com > > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > > Guidelines: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- Canada must refuse to be entangled in any more wars fought to make the world safe for capitalism. -- The Regina Manifesto, 1933 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
indirect nx access?
Hi, I don't understand how to access my workstation when I'm travelling. I have two computers on a router that has a routable address. Port 22 and 80 are forwarded to a small underpowered computer hosting a dozen web sites. I can remotely access the cli there using ssh and check for updates and look at the load, which is pretty much all I ever want to do on that computer. Then while logged in on that machine I can ssh to my own workstation which is also on 192.168.0 and get a cli there. But that is almost useless, because I really want to use an x session on that machine so I can check my mail (kmail on F7). I can easily run freenx server on my station but I don't see how I can get in through the publicly accessible machine and tunnel into my station. I basically can not change the server and it doesn't have the horsepower to run a freenx session without seriously degrading the response times for its users. So ideally I'd pack around a usb memory stick with a copy of the !m client and then somehow indirectly access my station from some internet cafe. It seems to me that if I can do it with ssh it should be possible to get an x session that way too but I don't know how. Ideas? stuff to read? TIA Dave -- -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: top swap interpretation help?
On Monday 30 March 2009 09:54:54 pm Robert Nichols wrote: > Dave Stevens wrote: > > current example: > > > > top - 16:14:05 up 10 days, 43 min, 1 user, load average: 0.04, 0.13, > > 0.16 Tasks: 197 total, 3 running, 194 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie > > Cpu(s): 5.3%us, 4.1%sy, 0.2%ni, 90.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.3%hi, 0.0%si, > > 0.0%st Mem: 4129236k total, 3817620k used, 311616k free, 332628k > > buffers Swap: 2031608k total, 84k used, 2031524k free, 1446812k > > cached > > > > So this shows 2 gigs of swap with 84K used. Fine, But it doesn't show the > > 84K in use right after boot time and in fact only shows up after there's > > been some especially heavy use of the machine. But it seems to be a kind > > of high-water mark. When the level of machine use goes down, even way > > down, the swap still shows as being in use and at the same level. I find > > this counter-intuitive and think I may be misunderstanding the figure. > > It's the amount currently in use. What you are seeing in swap are those > pages that got written once when you booted and logged in and were never > referenced again, thus no reason to bring them back in from swap. You > can run "swapoff -a; swapon -a" to force them back in, but eventually > those same pages are going to end up in swap again, even with little > memory pressure. Thank you. Much obliged. D > > -- > Bob Nichols "NOSPAM" is really part of my email address. > Do NOT delete it. -- Canada must refuse to be entangled in any more wars fought to make the world safe for capitalism. -- The Regina Manifesto, 1933 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: top swap interpretation help?
On Saturday 28 March 2009 11:25:47 pm Tim wrote: > On Sat, 2009-03-28 at 12:01 -0700, Dave Stevens wrote: > > When I run top I sometimes see a figure for swap that seems to be > > relatively constant. Is it the case that the figure shown is the > > maximum swap that has been used? > > top - 16:54:06 up 1:44, 2 users, load average: 0.41, 0.20, 0.09 > Tasks: 151 total, 3 running, 148 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie > Cpu(s): 12.1%us, 6.7%sy, 14.8%ni, 39.1%id, 26.8%wa, 0.2%hi, 0.3%si, > 0.0%st Mem: 1034016k total, 644736k used, 389280k free,22040k > buffers Swap: 2031608k total,0k used, 2031608k free, 265412k > cached > > The two "total" amounts, shown immediately above, are the total > available amounts of memory. How they're being used is written > alongside. > > If you mean something else, you should provide an example. > > -- > [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r > 2.6.27.19-78.2.30.fc9.i686 > > Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I > read messages from the public lists. current example: top - 16:14:05 up 10 days, 43 min, 1 user, load average: 0.04, 0.13, 0.16 Tasks: 197 total, 3 running, 194 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 5.3%us, 4.1%sy, 0.2%ni, 90.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.3%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Mem: 4129236k total, 3817620k used, 311616k free, 332628k buffers Swap: 2031608k total, 84k used, 2031524k free, 1446812k cached So this shows 2 gigs of swap with 84K used. Fine, But it doesn't show the 84K in use right after boot time and in fact only shows up after there's been some especially heavy use of the machine. But it seems to be a kind of high-water mark. When the level of machine use goes down, even way down, the swap still shows as being in use and at the same level. I find this counter-intuitive and think I may be misunderstanding the figure. Dave -- Canada must refuse to be entangled in any more wars fought to make the world safe for capitalism. -- The Regina Manifesto, 1933 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
top swap interpretation help?
Hi, When I run top I sometimes see a figure for swap that seems to be relatively constant. Is it the case that the figure shown is the maximum swap that has been used? Dave -- Canada must refuse to be entangled in any more wars fought to make the world safe for capitalism. -- The Regina Manifesto, 1933 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Running a web server on 256 RAM
Quoting homb...@tips-q.com: On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:46:55 +0200 James Matthews wrote: Good, I am now trying that out! Late to this thread. If "that" was not lighttpd, I highly recommend it and use it on our site. I uses considerably less resources than Apache and is significantly faster. BTW, YouTube and wikipedia also use lighttpd. http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.wikipedia.org The configuration is relatively straight forward. There are three RPMS. You need lighttpd-fastcgi and lighttpd. -- "Neither Lifestyle nor Agenda" http://www.tips-Q.com -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- In the world?s anti-Bush zones it is fashionable to regard him as an imperialist redneck of limited intellectual capacities. -- George Ross in Le Monde Diplomatique -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
ATI graphics to improve in F11?
Can anyone direct me to an announcement or discussion about what to expect in F11 for ATI graphics support? TIA Dave -- In the world?s anti-Bush zones it is fashionable to regard him as an imperialist redneck of limited intellectual capacities. -- George Ross in Le Monde Diplomatique -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
campcaster on fedora?
I hope the subject line is self-explanatory, but in case it isn't, does anyone have Campcaster (radio station automation software) in an rpm? It seems the default builds are .debs. Dave -- Canada must refuse to be entangled in any more wars fought to make the world safe for capitalism. -- The Regina Manifesto, 1933 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Software RAID 5 or something else?
On Friday 23 January 2009 09:39:44 am arag...@dcsnow.com wrote: > Hello all, > > I had a drive failure a few months back so I decided it was time to rework > my home server's storage. > > Now I have 5 750GB SATA dives and now I need some advice on how to set > things up. > > My original idea was to put them in a RAID 5 configuration. This sounded > good until I started researching RAID controller cards. It looks like it > will cost me $520 to get a good PCI-E card (3Ware 8 port). I don't think > I want to spend that much if I don't have to. > > My goals are two fold. > > 1) I want to get some redundancy in case of a drive failure. > > 2) I want to increase my performance. I have benchmarked my read and > write performance to and from this server. Using Samba, I seem to be able > to get about 50Mb/sec reads and 40Mb/sec writes. I am on a gig network > and would like to be able to max out the cards (90Mb/sec is what I get at > work). > > So, the question is, what should I do? > > 1) Bite the bullet and get the hardware RAID controller. Will this give > me the performance I want? > > 2) Go with a software RAID 5. Will I lose performance with this > configuration? If I use this but only get modest performance gains, that > would be acceptable. > > 3) Go with some other software RAID level. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > --- > Will Y. I think you want software raid. The little processor on a hardware raid card is unlikely to be better that what you already have for a cpu. If the hw raid card breaks for any reason you may be faced with trying to find just the same card and revision number to regain access to your data, a distressing experience no matter what. SW raid can confidently be expected to be stable over time. On point 1 I think you can look for blogs like the storage report and have a look at anandtech.com for reviews of raid including performance figures. On point 2 I think you will gain performance. The stipulated gain from 50 to 90 MB/sec seems quite achievable. On point 3 I think you need to look at testing others have performed to see what is the best (to you) combination of raid level, safety and speed. I might add that I have a currently working F7 implementation on a single Seagate 320 SATA drive and hdparm -tT shows 78 MB/sec reads while on another new drive, a Seagate 640 SATA I get 110 MB/sec. No raid at all and the only drive in the system. It might be worthwhile to examine your current setup further for bottlenecks before spending that kinda coin. Dave > > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. -- Canada must refuse to be entangled in any more wars fought to make the world safe for capitalism. -- The Regina Manifesto, 1933 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: help with text file?
On Sunday 18 January 2009 08:38:09 am Matthew Flaschen wrote: > Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > >> I see your grep and raise you a sed: > >> > >> sed 's/.*[^0-9]//' foo.txt >new_file.txt > > > > What happens if there is a number in the middle of the line of text, > > as well as at the end? Wouldn't that give you more text then desired? > > No, because .* is greedy. The .* will consume all but the very last > non-numeric character (including numeric chars before the last > non-numeric), then [^0-9] will consume the last non-numeric char. > > Matt Flaschen ok, ok I give up! I can now see I ought to have posted a data sample, herewith: [13/Dec/2008:12:02:48 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA "GET /ms_tmp/4943eab7_1228_1a.jpg HTTP/1.1" 588 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:48 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA "GET /ms_tmp/4943eab7_1228_1b.jpg HTTP/1.1" 586 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:47 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA "GET /ms_tmp/4943eab6_1228_1.jpg HTTP/1.1" 162202 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:48 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA "GET /ms_tmp/4943eab7_1228_1c.jpg HTTP/1.1" 586 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:48 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA "GET /ms_tmp/4943eab7_1228_1d.jpg HTTP/1.1" 586 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:48 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA "GET /ms_tmp/4943eab7_1228_1e.jpg HTTP/1.1" 708 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:48 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA "GET /ms_tmp/4943eab7_1228_1f.jpg HTTP/1.1" 763 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:48 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA "GET /ms_tmp/4943eab7_1228_20.jpg HTTP/1.1" 699 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:48 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA "GET /ms_tmp/4943eab7_1228_21.jpg HTTP/1.1" 688 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:48 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA "GET /ms_tmp/4943eab7_1228_22.jpg HTTP/1.1" 736 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:48 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA "GET /ms_tmp/4943eab7_1228_23.jpg HTTP/1.1" 677 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:48 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA "GET /ms_tmp/4943eab7_1228_24.jpg HTTP/1.1" 699 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:48 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA "GET /ms_tmp/4943eab7_1228_25.jpg HTTP/1.1" 582 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:48 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA "GET /ms_tmp/4943eab7_1228_26.jpg HTTP/1.1" 734 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:48 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA "GET /ms_tmp/4943eab7_1228_27.jpg HTTP/1.1" 708 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:48 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA "GET /ms_tmp/4943eab7_1228_28.jpg HTTP/1.1" 709 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:48 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA "GET /ms_tmp/4943eab7_1228_29.jpg HTTP/1.1" 733 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:48 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA "GET /ms_tmp/4943eab7_1228_2a.jpg HTTP/1.1" 714 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:48 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA "GET /ms_tmp/4943eab7_1228_2b.jpg HTTP/1.1" 748 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:51 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA "POST /mapchat/portal/getData.php HTTP/1.1" 451 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:57 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA "POST /mapchat/portal/getData.php HTTP/1.1" 451 so this is a SSL logfile, I only wanted the number at the end of the line. AWK was the first post that did it, all the others produced empty output files. I've got it now. Thanks to all, dave -- Canada must refuse to be entangled in any more wars fought to make the world safe for capitalism. -- The Regina Manifesto, 1933 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: help with text file?
On Saturday 17 January 2009 05:36:44 pm Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > Dave Stevens wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have a sequence of lines of ASCII text of varying length, each of which > > ends with an integer. Anyone have a quick and dirty way of getting these > > lines copied to a new file with only the last number on each line of the > > new file? > > > > Dave > > Is there any kind of separator between the number and the rest of > the line, or are the integer the same number of digits? > > Mikkel whitespace, looks like just spaces to me there's no vertical alignment from line to line d -- Canada must refuse to be entangled in any more wars fought to make the world safe for capitalism. -- The Regina Manifesto, 1933 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
OT: help with text file?
Hi, I have a sequence of lines of ASCII text of varying length, each of which ends with an integer. Anyone have a quick and dirty way of getting these lines copied to a new file with only the last number on each line of the new file? Dave -- Canada must refuse to be entangled in any more wars fought to make the world safe for capitalism. -- The Regina Manifesto, 1933 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
squid help for F7?
Hi, I'd like to run squid on my F7 setup and am getting an error every time I try to start the service. The logfile shows the output below (repeatedly) Squid Cache (Version 2.6.STABLE16): Terminated abnormally. CPU Usage: 0.009 seconds = 0.004 user + 0.005 sys Maximum Resident Size: 0 KB Page faults with physical i/o: 9 FATAL: Could not determine fully qualified hostname. Please set 'visible_hostname' I would quite happily set visible_hostname but don't know how or where. Ideas? Dave -- Canada must refuse to be entangled in any more wars fought to make the world safe for capitalism. -- The Regina Manifesto, 1933 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: the ATI proprietary driver and F10
On Thursday 08 January 2009 02:50:45 pm Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Dave Stevens wrote: > >> Try: > >> system-config-display --reconfig > > > > I don't have a usable system so probably I can't do that now. > > You can boot into runlevel 3 which will give you a console login prompt.. > no X. login as root at that console and try that command. It will attempt > to start an X server with default configs as Fedora understands them. But > since the ATI script didnt create an xorg.conf file I dont hold high > expectations on this working. > > > -jef Thanks Jef, but I could not figure out how to boot into runlevel 3. I know how to do this from a terminal prompt but could not get that far in the process. So I blew away the installation and reinstalled on top. Am now updating and configuring. dave -- Canada must refuse to be entangled in any more wars fought to make the world safe for capitalism. -- The Regina Manifesto, 1933 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: the ATI proprietary driver and F10
On Thursday 08 January 2009 01:47:24 pm Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Dave Stevens wrote: > > Mr. Bridgeman (the respondent) is I think a staff engineer at ATI who > > works on the process of disclosure of ATI card internals for free > > software programmers, so it seems his reply is likely to be > > authoritative. Fine. But how do I drop back to my previous working > > config? > > Do you know what changes the ATI proprietary driver install made to > your system? no > > Was that done via an rpm package or via an install script? install script > > Do you know what driver you were using before the proprietary ATI > driver install? whatever the default F10 video driver is > > Do you have a copy of the Xorg log from a working config before the > ATI driver install to compare to a copy after the ATI driver install? I'll look and get back to you > > It's difficult to know what to suggest unless I have an understanding > of what the driver install did to your system. And I have no idea. And > you'll excuse me if I don't rush out and attempt it on my own system > just so I can see what breaks. makes sense > > Try: > system-config-display --reconfig I don't have a usable system so probably I can't do that now. > > may help or it may not. Since I don't know what the proprietary > drivers changed. I can't tell you if its going to do anything to fix > it. ok, let me dig up some more info and get back to you. Thanks, Dave > > -jef -- Canada must refuse to be entangled in any more wars fought to make the world safe for capitalism. -- The Regina Manifesto, 1933 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
the ATI proprietary driver and F10
I recently installed a new HD and used the occasion to upgrade from F7 to F10 (both 64 bit). Things worked and I was curious about the difference in graphics performance between the open driver and the ATI driver. So I downloaded the ATI driver, ran the install and rebooted. This caused me to now boot partway through in the usual way and then to get a black screen with no apparent responses to mouse or keyboard. So I booted off the install medium and went into rescue mode with the HD mounted under /mnt/sysimage. I then discovered that there isn't apparently any xorg.conf. I was trying to reconfigure to get back to a working system. I went into a Phoronix forum and asked how, with this reply: reply --- The proprietary driver does not support Fedora in general, and specifically does not work on F10 today. I believe one user was able to get it working but please stick with the open drivers for F10. There isn't much you can do about 3D performance immediately but if you enable EXA acceleration you should get pretty decent 2D performance. If you are willing to give up kernel modesetting you could probably also pick up the latest radeon release and get tear-free video playback as well, although I haven't tried the latest release on F10. AFAIK the standard F10 install does not have an xorg.conf file. --- end of reply Mr. Bridgeman (the respondent) is I think a staff engineer at ATI who works on the process of disclosure of ATI card internals for free software programmers, so it seems his reply is likely to be authoritative. Fine. But how do I drop back to my previous working config? Dave -- Canada must refuse to be entangled in any more wars fought to make the world safe for capitalism. -- The Regina Manifesto, 1933 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Some people mis interpret Fedora's Mission Statement.
On Monday 08 December 2008 08:49:20 am stan wrote: > Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > This is not what Fedora once was meat to be. > > Please, let's have some perspective here. Fedora becomes > what the people doing the work want Fedora to become. And > the users of Fedora know what Fedora is meant to be because > they use it every day. The statement(s) is(are) just words > on paper. It isn't where the rubber meets the road. > > What you and others are actually saying is you want Fedora > to be something other than it is, but you don't want to do > the work to get it there. In other words, you want to > direct the work of those who do the work. Hey, you have a > great future in management waiting for you. :-) I dunno. It seems that error reports and feature requests from users who can't or don't want to scratch the itch would be extremely useful, if only because there are so many of them. dave > > Now, it is good that you care enough about Fedora to offer > suggestions, but if you don't help implement those > suggestions you shouldn't be offended or angry if they > aren't followed. -- Canada must refuse to be entangled in any more wars fought to make the world safe for capitalism. -- The Regina Manifesto, 1933 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Some people mis interpret Fedora's Mission Statement.
On Tuesday 09 December 2008 10:55:53 am Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Antonio Olivares wrote: > >>> I have no idea. We cannot rely on mere impressions for > >> > >> making such decisions and I know of no hard public hard > >> data. Enthusiasm doesn't determine how many people work > >> on something full time. Paying customers do. > > > > Do we pay for Fedora? > We don't pay for Fedora. So how can Paying > > customers determine the > > decisions. Are there users who pay for Fedora? > > > Or > > You are talking about RHEL customers? > > Neither specifically. Just that, if someone has to work on a product or > part of the product, full time, then a commercial organization would > only do it usually if customers are willing to pay for it, now or in the > near future. Enthusiasts, by their nature, "pay" with their time instead. And on that note, do you see any substantial contributions coming from academics? They have salaries too even if they aren't commercial orgs, likewise non-profit orgs and gov't. Didn't DHS contribute scalpel and foremost? didn't yum come from Duke? Dave > > Rahul -- Canada must refuse to be entangled in any more wars fought to make the world safe for capitalism. -- The Regina Manifesto, 1933 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
open nautilus in text mode?
Hi, I've got a folder with 300K recovered jpegs that vary from teeny to several megs. I tried to open the folder with Nautilus and got a 10 hour delay and the whole display is so clumsy (slow) as to be useless. I'd like to take about 1K of the biggest files and move them to some other folder but don't see how to do this with the icon view turned on. So. Does anyone know how to invoke nautilus with a details view rather than icon view? Or, does anyone care to suggest some bash command that would move the largest 1K files to a new (specified) folder. Then I'd hope to be able to use this command repeatedly to get the files down to a manageable number. Using F7. TIA Dave -- Canada must refuse to be entangled in any more wars fought to make the world safe for capitalism. -- The Regina Manifesto, 1933 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
monitor disk activity?
Hi, I'd like to know where most of the traffic to mi disk is coming from. I usually have an uptime of a week or so between reboots and would like to see which parts of the disk are busiest. Something like top but for the disk. Suggestions? Dave -- Canada must refuse to be entangled in any more wars fought to make the world safe for capitalism. -- The Regina Manifesto, 1933 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
advice for data recovery
Hello All, I am trying to recover .jpgs that were on a SATA drive that was formatted by mistake. No backup of course. Foremost has done a wonderful job of recovering several tens of thousands of files. Unfortunately many of them are either irrelevant (cached web fragments, etc.) or damaged. The most common type of damage is shown when trying to view them in Nautilus, when I get a message saying, "unsupported marker type." It seems about 30% - 40% of the files recovered are damaged in this way. They aren't my images and I am not able to gauge what is worthwhile or not but I would like to do some triage by only considering those of a certain minimum size (easy to do) and not damaged (no idea.) So does anyone know of a program I can use to only copy files that are not damaged? I can sort out the teenies, but don't see how to proceed after that. TIA. Dave -- Canada must refuse to be entangled in any more wars fought to make the world safe for capitalism. -- The Regina Manifesto, 1933 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Cannot boot after the last updates
On Friday 15 August 2008 05:12:54 pm Craig White wrote: > On Fri, 2008-08-15 at 20:00 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > After the last updates were installed, I cannot boot in my machine: it > > stops when the line > > > > GRUB > > > > appears on the screen. Any ideas how to repair the problem? I am running > > F9. > > > probably too much to ask people to search the archives... > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2008-August/msg01404.html > > Craig and too much to expect upgrades to not screw up the boot process? -- In modern fantasy (literary or governmental), killing people is the usual solution to the so-called war between good and evil. My books are not conceived in terms of such a war, and offer no simple answers to simplistic questions. -- Ursula K. LeGuin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Important infrastructure announcement
On Thursday 14 August 2008 04:15:13 pm Paul W. Frields wrote: > The Fedora Infrastructure team is currently investigating an issue what issue? > in > the infrastructure systems. That process may result in service outages, > for which we apologize in advance. We're still assessing the end-user > impact of the situation, but as a precaution, we recommend you not > download or update any additional packages on your Fedora systems. > > We'll share updates as we develop more information. Those updates will > be published here on the public fedora-announce-list: > https://redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-announce-list > > Thanks for your patience as we continue working on this. -- In modern fantasy (literary or governmental), killing people is the usual solution to the so-called war between good and evil. My books are not conceived in terms of such a war, and offer no simple answers to simplistic questions. -- Ursula K. LeGuin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: F8 vs F9
On Tuesday 12 August 2008 07:05:12 am Mike -- EMAIL IGNORED wrote: > I need to install a few new systems in the next > few weeks. My requirements are: apache; C++ code > development; netfilter; KDE; openvpn; and above > all, stability. I have heard a rumor that I might > be better off with F8 than F9. Is this true? > > Thanks, > Mike. based on my own experience, if you want ease and stability rhel or centos. dave -- In modern fantasy (literary or governmental), killing people is the usual solution to the so-called war between good and evil. My books are not conceived in terms of such a war, and offer no simple answers to simplistic questions. -- Ursula K. LeGuin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
OT: top ten books for web site makers?
I am running a little project to host web sites (on a CENTOS and Virtualmin box) for non-profit groups. The local public library is taking recommendations for a small special collection to support web site newbies. Suggestions? Dave -- In modern fantasy (literary or governmental), killing people is the usual solution to the so-called war between good and evil. My books are not conceived in terms of such a war, and offer no simple answers to simplistic questions. -- Ursula K. LeGuin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: Installing printer driver
On Monday 04 August 2008 07:30:50 am Adil Drissi wrote: > Hi, > > Sory i made an error while typing last time. The model is 2510, i found it > in the site you gave me. But i don't know how to use tht infomation for > installing it: > http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Samsung-ML-2510 > > Thanks have you tried the samsung unified printer driver? works in F7. dave > > --- On Mon, 8/4/08, Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: fglrx driver on F9 x86-64?
On Tuesday 05 August 2008 01:54:37 pm Raymond C. Rodgers wrote: > Well, I haven't seen recent word on this so I thought I'd ask the public > at large. Has there been any update on the fglrx driver for Fedora 9 > x86-64? F9 has been out for months now, and ATI/AMD has released several > versions of their driver since the F9 release date, but the fglrx driver > is still missing from the Livna repository, the official driver doesn't > seem to work, and I'm still getting unaccelerated video on my Radeon > HD3850. Anyone have any idea when this issue might get resolved? > > Thanks, > Raymond you might want to check out www.phoronix.com and ask in the forums there dave -- In modern fantasy (literary or governmental), killing people is the usual solution to the so-called war between good and evil. My books are not conceived in terms of such a war, and offer no simple answers to simplistic questions. -- Ursula K. LeGuin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: use wireless router as wireless NIC?
On Tuesday 24 June 2008 09:29:36 am max wrote: > Aaron Konstam wrote: > > On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 14:51 -0700, Dave Stevens wrote: > >> I have an office that moved recently. Before it was using a Linksys > >> wrt54g > >> wireless router, dsl from the telco (telus). Now it is adjacent to > >> another > >> office set up the same way. Rather than continue to pay double we'd > >> like to > >> share the cost and the connection. Can anyone suggest whether or how I > >> can > >> program my router to pick up the wifi signal from the next office and > >> get it > >> into my box? F7 if it matters. > > > > There is nothing to program as long as the wireless AP is detectable > > from both offices. > > -- > > === > > I'll be Grateful when they're Dead. > > === > > Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > He wants his router to connect to the other router and then give his pc > access thru *his* router. He doesn't want to connect directly to the > other AP, at least that's how I read. yes, that's right. d > -- > "Use your aggressive feelings, boy."--Emperor Palpatine -- In modern fantasy (literary or governmental), killing people is the usual solution to the so-called war between good and evil. My books are not conceived in terms of such a war, and offer no simple answers to simplistic questions. -- Ursula K. LeGuin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
use wireless router as wireless NIC?
I have an office that moved recently. Before it was using a Linksys wrt54g wireless router, dsl from the telco (telus). Now it is adjacent to another office set up the same way. Rather than continue to pay double we'd like to share the cost and the connection. Can anyone suggest whether or how I can program my router to pick up the wifi signal from the next office and get it into my box? F7 if it matters. Dave -- In modern fantasy (literary or governmental), killing people is the usual solution to the so-called war between good and evil. My books are not conceived in terms of such a war, and offer no simple answers to simplistic questions. -- Ursula K. LeGuin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
package manager alpha sorting?
Hi, I am using F7 64 bit. recently I set up a web server using Centos 5.1. I then added packages using a program from their upstream provider called package manager. I regularly use this in F7 too for the same purpose. But the Centos version sorts the entries from the search tab results list in alpha order. This is not done in F7. I don't know if it is in F9, I haven't upgraded yet. But it is a very handy feature. So I have two questions... 1. is it in fact in F9? or planned for F10? and 2. who would I talk to about adding this? That's two questions, right? Dave -- In modern fantasy (literary or governmental), killing people is the usual solution to the so-called war between good and evil. My books are not conceived in terms of such a war, and offer no simple answers to simplistic questions. -- Ursula K. LeGuin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: how to start up vncserver w/o login?
On Sunday 08 June 2008 02:57:10 am Mike wrote: > Dave Stevens uniserve.com> writes: > > It does and seems as if it would work. I have stopped work on this > > because it seems vnc is unavoidably unacceptably slow. > > I use this all the time and it works at an acceptable rate. > > > I tried Freenx and the nomachine > > linux client and it addresses the need for pre-login functionality nicely > > and gives much better throughput, allows higher resolutions, etc. > > I am interested to know if Freenx or !M are able to reproduce the > functionality that I get using vncserver as described in my previous post. > > However I asked on the list some time ago if anyone could confirm that > they had got freenx or !M to make a connection to the native desktop on > a remote machine without any local user having logged in on the remote > machine locally, but I never had any confirmation that it was in fact > possible or that anyone had actually managed it. > > This particular use for connection to a remote desktop is vital for me to > manage a remote machine where the local user there is non-computer > literate. > > I'd still like to hear from anyone who has done this. ok, I think what I have implemented meets your needs. Then this gives a vnc window to the server machine via the tunnel even if the remote user has not yet logged in provided X on the server is running. The !M client on my box logs me in to the server and gives me an X session. If (I've tested this, not a theory) I go to the far end machine, the server, and turn on the screen the system is sitting at the user login screen. If I were to log in at that point there seem to be two X sessions, one serving up a screen at my box and one local to the server. Because in this setup stage the two computers are physically contiguous, a VNC session (which can be implemented only after a user login on the server) can be controlled at the same time by either keyboard or mouse. With the !M session these are separate. I'm pretty happy with this solution, it means I can get back to a login and full X session with no need to have physical access. Hope this helps. Dave -- In modern fantasy (literary or governmental), killing people is the usual solution to the so-called war between good and evil. My books are not conceived in terms of such a war, and offer no simple answers to simplistic questions. -- Ursula K. LeGuin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
Re: how to start up vncserver w/o login?
On Saturday 07 June 2008 03:24:18 am Mike wrote: > Dave Stevens uniserve.com> writes: > > But does anyone know what I need to do to make the vncserver start up > > without a user login? And also it should be possible (or perhaps it will > > happen by default) that I can log in to the x session after I get access > > with vncviewer. References, howtos, pointers to documents welcome. > > OK what I do is as follows: > > On the machine that acts as the vnc server I add a section in xorg.conf > like: > Section "Module" > Load "vnc" > EndSection > > and also in the "screen" section there is a password line added > like: > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen0" > Device "Videocard0" > Monitor"Monitor0" > DefaultDepth 24 > Option "passwordFile" "/opt/local/etc/vnc/passwd" > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 24 > Modes"1680x1050" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" > EndSubSection > EndSection > > That machine is booted to runlevel 5 and nothing further needed there. > > In the client machine I have entries in .ssh/config such as > > Host farend > #next line when port forwarding for ssh changes from 22 to 23456 > Port 23456 > ForwardAgentyes > Hostnamefarend.specialhost.co.uk > LocalForward55900 localhost:5900 > > So in one terminal window I then: > ssh farend > and this sets up the tunnel with port forwarding from local 55900 > to remote 5900 > > Then I have a script which is run in a second terminal window that > essentially does > vncviewer -passwd ~/.vnc/passwd localhost:55900 > > Then this gives a vnc window to the server machine via the tunnel even if > the remote user has not yet logged in provided X on the server is running. > > I hope this helps. It does and seems as if it would work. I have stopped work on this because it seems vnc is unavoidably unacceptably slow. I tried Freenx and the nomachine linux client and it addresses the need for pre-login functionality nicely and gives much better throughput, allows higher resolutions, etc. Thanks for all replies. dave -- In modern fantasy (literary or governmental), killing people is the usual solution to the so-called war between good and evil. My books are not conceived in terms of such a war, and offer no simple answers to simplistic questions. -- Ursula K. LeGuin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
how to start up vncserver w/o login?
Hi, I'm trying to set up a small server and am running into an administration problem. I am testing the effect of an unplanned power outage, currently by pulling the plug and watching what happens. The A/C power switch is set up so the unit restarts when power is restored, and ping works after a minute or so of reboot, as does apache. But I need remote access after I put the machine into use and I can't log in remotely with VNCviewer unless I go to the server in person and log in. Then everything is ok, both locally and remotely. But does anyone know what I need to do to make the vncserver start up without a user login? And also it should be possible (or perhaps it will happen by default) that I can log in to the x session after I get access with vncviewer. References, howtos, pointers to documents welcome. Dave -- In modern fantasy (literary or governmental), killing people is the usual solution to the so-called war between good and evil. My books are not conceived in terms of such a war, and offer no simple answers to simplistic questions. -- Ursula K. LeGuin -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
