Re: RFE: Never, ever steal focus.
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:29 AM, Tomas Mraz tm...@redhat.com wrote: ... snip ... The problem is that the automatic focus change only when intended by user will never be done 100% correctly. This is just impossible to do. So the actual better user experience case would be to always require the user to press some (easy) key combination to transfer the focus from the currently focused window. The user would quickly learn it. You wouldn't need a 'new' (easy) key combination... your window manager already defines a way to 'set focus' Then the problem shifts to whether the newly created windows should be opened in the background or not. ... snip ... Thank you... There is a big difference between auto-raise, and auto-focus. I would complain about auto-focus on pop-ups (that should be my configuration choice) but auto-raise isn't (as) anoying. Its a visual distraction, but then again, thats why its called a 'popup', but at least it didn't cause me to type the wrong thing into the wrong window. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: RFE: Never, ever steal focus.
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 11:23 -0600, Serge E. Hallyn wrote: Quoting Adam Jackson (a...@redhat.com): On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 11:36 -0500, Jarod Wilson wrote: I'd go with don't let a different app steal focus. Windows for the same currently focused app are allowed to. This works pretty well under Mac OS X. Might depend on some of the stuff being done by the gnome-shell folks though, to be able to group windows together as belonging to the same process/application to be able to do it Right under a Linux DE... Now make that work for the (not uncommon) case of clicking a link in evo or control-clicking one in gnome-terminal and expecting firefox to pop forward with that page. And now make that work for the case where firefox decides to take 10 secs to start up, so you start in another window, then firefox jumps up and grabs focus. Thanks. There is no case where I want a new window or popup to take focus. Makes for an easy algorithm. (hitting r in mutt is not a problem :) There is no case where _you_ want this, sure. I'd say... only take focus if its a child/creation of the window currently in focus. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: PackageKit policy: background and plans
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Matthew Garrett m...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 04:09:15PM +1100, James Morris wrote: Many users limit their use of the root account to essential system maintenance, and run general purpose applications as a regular unprivileged user. I know basically nobody who, on a generally single user system, explicitly switches to a console to log in as root and perform package installs there. I do! And I tell everyone else too, so they learn/understand the difference between 'god' and a 'mere mortal user' (ie. root and anyone else). If you're not doing that then the issue is basically moot - a user-level compromise will become a root-level compromise the next time you run anything as root. ... snip ... -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: F13 Naming: Leonidas - Constantine - New Name?
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Bastien Nocera bnoc...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 16:45 +0100, Björn Persson wrote: inode0 wrote: With Fedora 12 just a few days from release it is time to begin the naming process for the next Fedora release. After F12 comes Print Screen of course. ;-) Depending on the keyboards I look at, I have Insert, Eject and Mute after F12 ;) Ahhh, having choices is always good! After F12 _I_ have: Delete, End and Page Down. :-) (Sorry for adding to the noise, but its a 'slow news day'.) -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Intel graphics users: send me your VBIOS
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com wrote: If you have a machine with an Intel graphics chip, I need your help. I'm trying to make LVDS connection detection actually reliable, and I think I have a solution that involves parsing BIOS data tables. But I need more testcases to raise my confidence that it's actually a reliable method. So, do this: % sudo dd if=/dev/mem of=/tmp/rom bs=64k skip=12 count=1 and email me that rom file, along with a brief description of the machine, and in particular what graphics outputs (DVI, VGA, LVDS...) are _actually_ present on the machine. FYI (to the list), I already sent the following to Adam: Dell Inspiron 6400 (aka 1505?) laptop -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
How to RPM'ify Perl Modules
I'd like to create an RPM (spec file) to package my Perl based product so that its easy to distribute and easy to add to a Fedora kickstart file, but I'm not too sure where to start. I've looked around and found cpan2rpm and rpmpan, but I'd like to know what the 'official' approach is for Fedora. Can anyone point me in the right direction? TIA Fulko -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
what controls DPMS in KDE?
Somewhat off topic, but: I'm trying to build a stripped down F11/KDE system I've eliminated most of the packages that I don't need, but I've encountered a problem. DPMS is _still_ on by default and hence is blanking my screen after ~20 minutes. My question is: What entry in what file do I need to adjust (that the KDE tool does) to turn off DPMS? TIA Fulko -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: what controls DPMS in KDE?
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Fulko Hew fulko@gmail.com wrote: Somewhat off topic, but: I'm trying to build a stripped down F11/KDE system I've eliminated most of the packages that I don't need, but I've encountered a problem. DPMS is _still_ on by default and hence is blanking my screen after ~20 minutes. My question is: What entry in what file do I need to adjust (that the KDE tool does) to turn off DPMS? Replying to my own question... It is defined by the 'DPMSEnabled=' lines, in each profile, defined in the file: /home/*/.kde/share/config/powerdevilprofilesrc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
yum update on F8 now hangs as of today
For a variety of reasons, I'm still using F8 on my laptop. I've been keeping up-to-date whenever new packages appear. Today I see that there are a number of new packages: Package Arch Version Repository Size Updating: e2fsprogsi386 1.40.4-3.fc8updates-newkey 610 k e2fsprogs-devel i386 1.40.4-3.fc8updates-newkey 644 k e2fsprogs-libs i386 1.40.4-3.fc8updates-newkey 138 k imlib2 i386 1.4.2-2.fc8 updates-newkey 569 k perl-Data-Dump noarch 1.11-1.fc8 updates-newkey 20 k selinux-policy noarch 3.0.8-127.fc8 updates-newkey 424 k selinux-policy-devel noarch 3.0.8-127.fc8 updates-newkey 549 k selinux-policy-targeted noarch 3.0.8-127.fc8 updates-newkey 1.7 M xscreensaver-basei386 1:5.07-3.fc8updates-newkey 506 k xscreensaver-extras i386 1:5.07-3.fc8updates-newkey 3.6 M xscreensaver-extras-gss i386 1:5.07-3.fc8updates-newkey 57 k xscreensaver-gl-base i386 1:5.07-3.fc8updates-newkey 35 k xscreensaver-gl-extras i386 1:5.07-3.fc8updates-newkey 3.8 M xscreensaver-gl-extras-gss i386 1:5.07-3.fc8updates-newkey 43 k but yum hangs during the 'transaction test' CPU time goes to zero... there is no activity. I tried 'yum clean all'... no change. I tried yum install of only a single package, and it still hangs. I tried turning on debug: yum -d 10 update imlib2 and the last few lines are: . . . PackageArch Version Repository Size Updating: imlib2 i386 1.4.2-2.fc8 updates-newkey 569 k Transaction Summary Install 0 Package(s) Update 1 Package(s) Remove 0 Package(s) Total size: 569 k Is this ok [y/N]: y Downloading Packages: using local copy of imlib2-1.4.2-2.fc8.i386 Running rpm_check_debug Member: imlib2.i386 0-1.4.2-2.fc8 - u Adding Package imlib2-1.4.2-2.fc8.i386 in mode u Member: imlib2.i386 0-1.4.2-1.fc8 - None rpm_check_debug time: 0.126 Running Transaction Test Member: imlib2.i386 0-1.4.2-2.fc8 - u Adding Package imlib2-1.4.2-2.fc8.i386 in mode u Member: imlib2.i386 0-1.4.2-1.fc8 - None Since I just received notice that all outstanding bugzilla entries against F8 are about to be deleted, there is no point in submitting one. Does anyone have any suggestions? TIA Fulko -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: yum update on F8 now hangs as of today
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 8:26 PM, Fulko Hew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For a variety of reasons, I'm still using F8 on my laptop.
I've been keeping up-to-date whenever new packages appear.
Today I see that there are a number of new packages:
... snip ...
but yum hangs during the 'transaction test'
CPU time goes to zero... there is no activity.
I tried 'yum clean all'... no change.
I tried yum install of only a single package, and it still hangs.
I tried turning on debug:
... snip ...
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Following up on my own message, I did an strace on yum
and see the following:
open(/etc/mtab, O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 29
futex(0x50ab1c, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 2147483647) = 0
fstat64(29, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=379, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) =
0xb7fa1000
read(29, /dev/sda3 / ext3 rw 0 0\nproc /pr..., 4096) = 379
stat64(/, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0
stat64(/proc, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0555, st_size=0, ...}) = 0
stat64(/sys, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0
stat64(/dev/pts, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=0, ...}) = 0
stat64(/boot, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=3072, ...}) = 0
stat64(/dev/shm, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|S_ISVTX|0777, st_size=60, ...}) = 0
stat64(/proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=0, ...}) =
0
stat64(/var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=0, ...}) =
0
stat64(/sys/fs/fuse/connections, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=0, ...}) =
0
stat64(/mnt/temp, ^C unfinished ...
/mnt/temp was something I had NFS mounted earlier on today,
but I suspended my laptop and took it home, so the mountpoint
isn't valid right now.
So yum does a stat on all mountpoints, for some reason, and if they don't
exist, the OS hangs the process. Who knows, it may eventually time out,
but life is/was too short to wait for timeout.
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Re: Problems with IPW3545 and latest kernel
2008/7/4 Jonathan Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 07:43 +0200, Ricard Martí wrote: I've problems connecting wireless with IPW3545 (Intel Pro Wireless 3545) and latest kernel (kernel-2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686). No problems were found on the previous kernel. Surfed with internet and seen that it's a bug but, there's a plan to solve it in a few days? That will depend on how long it takes to find out exactly what broke. Feel free to subscribe to the bug (add your e-mail address to the Cc: field). Which Bugzilla # would that be? I tried searching for 3945, and I can't find/recognize the appropriate entry. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
[Fedora-livecd-list] Re: failing at my first attempt at liveCD creation
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Fulko Hew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm failing at my first attempt at creating (or recreating) a live CD - I'm using Fedora 8 (because I don't find KDE in F9 usable yet) - I have SELinux disabled. Following the process described in the LiveCDHowTo, well, actually the step: livecd-creator --config=/usr/share/livecd-tools/livecd-fedora-minimal.ks ... snip ... Following up on my own email... I am making progress, but not because I changed anything... I now have success in creating a live CD, just by running _exactly_ the same thing again. Now its basically working (without changing a thing... Yeah, I have a hard time believing that myself.) Now that I can basically create a bootable media... I want to customize it. But if I use the standard approach of always downloading the RPMs across the net, it takes a long time, so therefore I'd like to have a local repository to suck from. I haven't been able to find a 'good/working' set if instructions to follow that a) creates a local repo, and b) changes required to the kickstart file so it _successfully_ uses that local repo. Surely there must be a definitive set of instructions/docs for this _whole_ downloading/setup/building/customizing a liveCD process? (I haven't found any 'complete' instructions yet.) Pointers anyone? TIA Fulko -- Fedora-livecd-list mailing list Fedora-livecd-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list
[Fedora-livecd-list] failing at my first attempt at liveCD creation
I'm failing at my first attempt at creating (or recreating) a live CD - I'm using Fedora 8 (because I don't find KDE in F9 usable yet) - I have SELinux disabled. Following the process described in the LiveCDHowTo, well, actually the step: livecd-creator --config=/usr/share/livecd-tools/livecd-fedora-minimal.ks resulted in a complaint about SELinux not being enabled on the host system... Right, so I edited the '.ks' file and set selinux=--disabled This let it proceed through the build stage with the following errors: Installing: info # [ 29/129] /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.42253: line 2: sed: command not found error: %post(info-4.12-1.fc10.i386) scriptlet failed, exit status 127 ... Installing: cracklib # [ 45/129] /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.50225: line 2: getent: command not found /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.50225: line 3: getent: command not found ... Installing: kernel # [124/129] device-mapper: table ioctl failed: No such device or address Command failed ... Installing: selinux-policy-targeted # [129/129] libsemanage.dbase_llist_query: could not query record value libsepol.sepol_user_modify: MLS is enabled, but no MLS default level was defined for user guest_u libsepol.sepol_user_modify: could not load (null) into policy libsemanage.dbase_policydb_modify: could not modify record value libsemanage.semanage_base_merge_components: could not merge local modifications into policy /usr/sbin/semanage: Could not add SELinux user guest_u libsepol.sepol_user_modify: MLS is enabled, but no MLS default level was defined for user xguest_u libsepol.sepol_user_modify: could not load (null) into policy libsemanage.dbase_policydb_modify: could not modify record value libsemanage.semanage_base_merge_components: could not merge local modifications into policy /usr/sbin/semanage: Could not add SELinux user xguest_u Removing password for user root. passwd: Success Then I used the specified command to execute the ISO image: qemu -m 512 -cdrom livecd-fulko-200805241043.iso The first time I followed the procedure (a few days ago) to build the ISO and execute it, it wouldn't even boot. Today I retried the same procedure, and today it boots, but after it get to the point of starting udev, something flashes by on the screen (qemu window) and then the window goes black, and I can't see anything after that. I seems hung. So then I tried recreating the 'livecd-fedora-desktop.ks' version as per instructions and it dies with: Installing: tzdata ### [ 21/1019] umount: /var/tmp/livecd-creator-PxlU8W/install_root: device is busy umount: /var/tmp/livecd-creator-PxlU8W/install_root: device is busy ioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Device or resource busy Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/livecd-creator, line 1603, in module sys.exit(main()) File /usr/bin/livecd-creator, line 1575, in main target.install() File /usr/bin/livecd-creator, line 948, in install self.installPackages() File /usr/bin/livecd-creator, line 591, in installPackages self.ayum.runInstall() File /usr/bin/livecd-creator, line 330, in runInstall return self.runTransaction(cb) File /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/yum/__init__.py, line 591, in runTransaction errors = self.ts.run(cb.callback, '') File /usr/share/yum-cli/callback.py, line 124, in callback fd = os.open(rpmloc, os.O_RDONLY) OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/tmp/livecd-creator-PxlU8W/install_root/var/cache/yum/development/packages/texlive-texmf-errata-fonts-2007-4.fc9.noarch.rpm' So I'm at a loss as to how to proceed to start testing this process even before I add my own customizations. Any help would be appreciated. TIA Fulko -- Fedora-livecd-list mailing list Fedora-livecd-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-livecd-list
