Re: Fedora 10 release banner
I don't think having Anaconda in there makes sense. You probably only see the installer once anyway. Hylke On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paolo Leoni wrote: This is a possible release banner (big): http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora10-0day-banner.svg http://pleoni.altervista.org/fedora10-0day-banner.png Not bad at all! For better variety, it may be a good idea to have one of those screenshots showing Anaconda (more grey, less blue) and *not* have the right and left screenshots at the same Y coordinate (move one of them a few pixels down, to look more random). Also, I would make the 10 thicker by adding a 2 or 3 px white stroke. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Fedora 10 release banner
Perhaps, but Nicu has a good point that there should be something to break up the color monotony. Oh yeah, wasn't saying that. It could be a firstboot screen, for example. Or maybe one or two large windows of colorful applications, like a OOo3 pie chart and/or an art program. Yeah, applications sound good. Hylke -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo Icon Theme Future
That also pretty much summarize our main goal, which is similar to what tango project has, to cover various desktops with one icon set. Well, with one style. Huge difference. I'm still not a fan of the isometric view of the bigger icons, i think it causes most of the noise in the icons. Also, I do not see a need for that particular viewpoint. Anyway, the new perspective icons look much crispier. Good job! :) Hylke 2008/10/20 Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, the last week's discussion about Echo was pretty fruitful I think and showed that the general opinion is to not include Echo in F10 as a default icon set. I take this as an opportunity to rethink the general goals of echo and give some credit to various critics. The main reason why *I* think not to have Echo in F10 as default is incomplete coverage of other-than-48x48-px sizes and shortcomings of the scalable icons that are supposed to fill the gap. We're slowly but steadily improving that and I think Echo should not be submitted for inclusion in Fedora as default icon set before this issue is resolved. Next there is a general coverage where we are already close to gnome upstream icon set. We will be improving that as well. I'd like to focus on (nearly) full coverage of Desktop Live Spin, KDE Live Spin and XFCE Live Spin (others as well, but I don't have them all in memory). So if you are missing echo styled icons in your favourite application that is included in one of those spins, feel free to file a bug [1]. It will not be handled instantly, but it helps us deciding what icons need to be done ;-) That also pretty much summarize our main goal, which is similar to what tango project has, to cover various desktops with one icon set. Finally I'd like to throw some fuel for discussion (mainly on the art-list). We are a lot criticized for inconsistencies in the projection we use in echo. Strictly speaking we are using 3 different types of projections and we have rules which is used where and we are pretty much consistent with that. Especially we do not introduce any other different projections to these and thus trying to keep the set consistent. In that we are even better than gnome - I discovered a few of icons there that does not adhere to their projection guidelines and have their own (though usually only slightly different from the main types). But on the other side it turns out that having three main types of projections is too much for an icon set and that having two is about the right number. So I started discovering the idea a bit more [2] with the hope to come to some conclusions (in the future) about echo projection guidelines. I am thinking about creating a parallel icon set that would use echo guidelines sans the projection ones, but I have not yet decided on the used type of projections. My top candidate currently is perspective projection from a similar viewpoint as used by gnome icon theme - that would much improve our coexistence with it. I am attaching proof of concept icon sketches following this projection rule. I plan to explore other types of projections as well and write another blog post (a follow-up to [2]) later (but it will take some time, since I don't have much spare time available for echo lately). Comments welcome, Martin References: [1] https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/newticket [2] http://mso-chronicles.blogspot.com/2008/10/echo-icon-theme-perspective-part-i.html ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: Echo vs the destkop
I think what Andreas means is that when you install an application that is not in the default Fedora install, it's going to look out of place. All the most popular OSS packages now use the same icon style upstream, which is a major achievement, but instead Fedora chooses to do it all over again. It's not very hard to make Echo look integrated with the upstream icons, without losing its characteristics. Echo already got the thick outer stroke, i think what's most out of place is the weird perspective. What you will see happening is toolbars in applications using different kinds of icon perspectives. At least that's what I think of it. I'm not just criticising, but if you agree I will put my money where my mouth is and help out. Hylke On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Nilsson wrote: If the system - Administration looks out of place with the rest of the system, does it help to introduce another icon style so the rest of the system looks out of place instead? But Echi is not going to be used exclusively for the Administration menu, but for the entire menu, so the icons will be consistent. A icon set is a mighty beast, bigger than it might appear at first. It have taken about 3 years for the 6-7 core icon developers upstream (with several others occasionally helping out) to where it is now. We're welcoming all interested contributors to help out upstream with open arms. I've had a very good experience with working together on with Fedora developers in GNOME and would love for more collaboration to happen. Hopefully, we can leverage your experience and make use of the useful things you discovered, like the one canvas workflow or some icon metaphors and don't reinvent the wheel, just paint it differently. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com Cool Fedora wallpapers: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/wallpapers/ Open Clip Art Library: http://www.openclipart.org my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] Reworked mail-mark-(not)junk icons
The notjunk icon really confuses me. It's like aproving it's junk. Hylke 2008/9/20 Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I've just finished another try on the mail-*-junk icons, because after a few days of usage I realised that no matter how much you try to get used to it, it always looks strange... I reverted to original design by Diana for mail-mark-junk (with various changes) and changed metaphor for mail-mark-notjunk to, a) better fit with the rest of echo icons, b) to better fit with oxygen icons and c) to IMHO better symbolise the mark-notjunk action. Comments welcome, Martin References: http://mso.fedorapeople.org/echo/Actions/mail-mark-junk.svg http://mso.fedorapeople.org/echo/Actions/mail-mark-notjunk.svg ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: [Echo] New preferences-system-authentication icon set
Just an overall comment: I find the smaller sizes of echo-icon-theme (16x16 and 22x22) very hard to recognize. This is because the isometric perspective doesn't work there. Are there plans of making them better? Hylke 2008/8/31 Martin Sourada [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I've just finished (initial take of) preferences-system-authentication icon set. I attach an one canvas PNG, SVG is available on my fedorapeople page [1], and a screen-shot of it in action ;-) Martin PS: judging by the speed with which I was able generate all needed files, add them to local git repository (I haven't pushed it to fedora hosted) and build and install RPM out of it, the new scripts are really handy (it drastically brings down amount of non-art work to be done by the artist), I am glad that I finally decided to make them (and I hope I won't be the only one using them) :-D Comments welcome, Martin References: [1] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/echo/Applications/preferences-system-authentication.svg ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
Re: mockup gtk theme
That's beautiful. I think this will fit well in my attempt to ressurect Bluecurve. :) Thanks! Hylke Andy Fitzsimon schreef: heya guys I was having a play today and built upon an old gtk theme mockup I had. \ (svgz attached) I sure would love nodoka to render it ;-) I didn't design it specifically for fedora but I hope someone here finds it useful for future mocks. Take it as public domain. Andy ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list
