Re: slow boot for latest fedora kernel 2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64
On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 10:19 +1030, Tim wrote: On Tue, 2009-12-29 at 20:00 +, N James Bridge wrote: Without quiet I still get no output at all for 2min 35sec, then normal rush of messages. Bootchart (very nice!) shows that the boot process itself is running normally, once it starts, about 45sec overall. The initial wait isn't shown on the chart. Once running, everything seems to be working. The entries in grub.conf are identical, except for version numbers. So what causes the wait? You haven't provided any details. *Exactly* what text appears before the wait, and after the resumption? Before: nothing. Just the flashing underline character, in the same large typeface as the boot menu. After: flashing underline switches to a smaller size, then a message from plymouth (exactly the same for both versions of the kernel). plymouthd: ply_keyboard.c:450: ply_keyboard_add_input_handler: 'Assertion !=((void*)0)' failed. After this it continues as expected. -- N James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: slow boot for latest fedora kernel 2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64
On Tue, 2009-12-29 at 00:32 +, N James Bridge wrote: Upgraded this evening and the system seemed broken but did start the boot process after about 2 minutes. All normal thereafter. It doesn't make any difference if I boot to level 3. After leaving the boot menu, the screen simply displays a single underline character and nothing happens at all for 2 min. Then things get underway at normal speed. Previous kernel is still installed and boots up quite normally. Any ideas? Anyone else getting the same behaviour? I use the nvidia drivers but they are up to date and in any case shouldn't be used for a level 3 boot. -- N James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk Thanks for tips. Without quiet I still get no output at all for 2min 35sec, then normal rush of messages. Bootchart (very nice!) shows that the boot process itself is running normally, once it starts, about 45sec overall. The initial wait isn't shown on the chart. Once running, everything seems to be working. The entries in grub.conf are identical, except for version numbers. So what causes the wait? -- N James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
slow boot for latest fedora kernel 2.6.31.9-174.fc12.x86_64
Upgraded this evening and the system seemed broken but did start the boot process after about 2 minutes. All normal thereafter. It doesn't make any difference if I boot to level 3. After leaving the boot menu, the screen simply displays a single underline character and nothing happens at all for 2 min. Then things get underway at normal speed. Previous kernel is still installed and boots up quite normally. Any ideas? Anyone else getting the same behaviour? I use the nvidia drivers but they are up to date and in any case shouldn't be used for a level 3 boot. -- N James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
editing menu items
In fedora 11 you could edit the command for any menu item (like Applications-Internet-Skype) by right clicking on the icon but this doesn't work in F12. However, if I drag the icon to the top panel I can edit the copy, but it doesn't have any effect on the menu version. Is there a reason for this, or is it a bug? Or have I missed something? -- N James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: errors on trying to install latest nvidia driver with F12
Hi all I have now succeeded in installing the nvidia driver and have used Richard Shaw's trick to stop nouveau loading (add rdblacklist=nouveau to the kernel parameters in grub.conf). The result is that the graphical boot (plymouth) is replaced by a plain progress bar but once that is finished the nvidia driver works as intended. Thanks for the various bits of advice -- N James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
errors on trying to install latest nvidia driver with F12
I am hoping someone may be able to throw some light on this. I had (and now have restored) F12 (x86_64) working with the nouveau driver. I have been watching for the nvidia drivers to make it into the RPMfusion repo and they have now done so and last night I installed the 173 legacy driver (as required for my ancient graphics card!) Result - plymouth intro followed by black screen. I rebooted into level 3 and uninstalled the nvidia drivers and tried again - same result. Following advice I got here previously, I rebooted to level 3, deleted xorg.conf and then ran startx, which worked. However, on closing, I got a string of error messages and then on booting up, the black screen again. Finally, I repeated the above and from the gui (GNOME) made a new user. Since then things have worked normally. Why? It seems more like black magic than IT. I have attached the error log and the default xorg.conf file, for expert perusal. It doesn't mean a whole lot to me. thanks in advance for any comments -- N James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk # Xorg configuration created by system-config-display Section ServerLayout Identifier single head configuration Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection Section InputDevice # keyboard added by system-config-display Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout gb EndSection Section Device Identifier Videocard0 Driver nv EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Videocard0 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection X.Org X Server 1.7.1 Release Date: 2009-10-23 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: 2.6.18-164.2.1.el5 Current Operating System: Linux xmas.demon.co.uk 2.6.31.6-145.fc12.x86_64 #1 SMP Sat Nov 21 15:57:45 EST 2009 x86_64 Kernel command line: ro root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=uk rhgb quiet 3 Build Date: 05 November 2009 07:43:10PM Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.7.1-7.fc12 Current version of pixman: 0.16.2 Before reporting problems, check http://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/ to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Tue Dec 1 23:03:43 2009 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf (==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section. (==) No screen section available. Using defaults. (**) |--Screen Default Screen Section (0) (**) | |--Monitor default monitor (==) No device specified for screen Default Screen Section. Using the first device section listed. (**) | |--Device Videocard0 (==) No monitor specified for screen Default Screen Section. Using a default monitor configuration. (**) Option AIGLX on (==) Automatically adding devices (==) Automatically enabling devices (==) FontPath set to: catalogue:/etc/X11/fontpath.d, built-ins (**) ModulePath set to /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/nvidia,/usr/lib64/xorg/modules (**) Extension Composite is enabled (II) Cannot locate a core pointer device. (II) Cannot locate a core keyboard device. (II) The server relies on HAL to provide the list of input devices. If no devices become available, reconfigure HAL or disable AllowEmptyInput. (II) Loader magic: 0x7c8560 (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 X.Org Video Driver: 6.0 X.Org XInput driver : 7.0 X.Org Server Extension : 2.0 (--) using VT number 7 (--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 10de:0332:: nVidia Corporation NV35 [GeForce FX 5900XT] rev 161, Mem @ 0xf800/16777216, 0xf000/134217728, BIOS @ 0x/131072 (II) LoadModule: extmod (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so (II) Module extmod: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 1.7.1, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension SELinux (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA (II) Loading extension DPMS (II) Loading extension XVideo (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation (II) Loading extension X-Resource (II) LoadModule: dbe (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so (II) Module dbe: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 1.7.1, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER (II) LoadModule: glx (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg
Re: errors on trying to install latest nvidia driver with F12
On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 14:11 +, N James Bridge wrote: I am hoping someone may be able to throw some light on this. I had (and now have restored) F12 (x86_64) working with the nouveau driver. I have been watching for the nvidia drivers to make it into the RPMfusion repo and they have now done so and last night I installed the 173 legacy driver (as required for my ancient graphics card!) Result - plymouth intro followed by black screen. I rebooted into level 3 and uninstalled the nvidia drivers and tried again - same result. Following advice I got here previously, I rebooted to level 3, deleted xorg.conf and then ran startx, which worked. However, on closing, I got a string of error messages and then on booting up, the black screen again. Finally, I repeated the above and from the gui (GNOME) made a new user. Since then things have worked normally. Why? It seems more like black magic than IT. I have attached the error log and the default xorg.conf file, for expert perusal. It doesn't mean a whole lot to me. thanks in advance for any comments PS. I should have said that, following the advice on installing nvidia drivers given at http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-nvidia.html I also tried using dracut to make a new initramfs, once the nvidia driver was removed. It didn't make any difference: worked once only, as for the other changes. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: errors on trying to install latest nvidia driver with F12
On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 07:27 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 14:11 +, N James Bridge wrote: I am hoping someone may be able to throw some light on this. I had (and now have restored) F12 (x86_64) working with the nouveau driver. I have been watching for the nvidia drivers to make it into the RPMfusion repo and they have now done so and last night I installed the 173 legacy driver (as required for my ancient graphics card!) Result - plymouth intro followed by black screen. I rebooted into level 3 and uninstalled the nvidia drivers and tried again - same result. Following advice I got here previously, I rebooted to level 3, deleted xorg.conf and then ran startx, which worked. However, on closing, I got a string of error messages and then on booting up, the black screen again. Finally, I repeated the above and from the gui (GNOME) made a new user. Since then things have worked normally. Why? It seems more like black magic than IT. I have attached the error log and the default xorg.conf file, for expert perusal. It doesn't mean a whole lot to me. thanks in advance for any comments the error log doesn't seem to track with the xorg.conf file you enclosed. the xorg.conf called for 'nv' but the error log tried to use the proprietary nvidia driver. What is it that you want to do and perhaps we can figure out the best course of action Craig Ultimately, I want to get the nvidia driver installed, rather than nouveau. (I have a weakness for desktop effects!) I have had nvidia drivers working consistently up to F12, without fuss. Previously I installed fedora N (N=6-11) and then set up the repos, downloaded the nvidia drivers from RPMfusion or its predecessor and just installed them. No problems. Now it doesn't work. The xorg.conf file is what was generated automatically after I deleted the existing one and after uninstalling the nvidia driver (and its metapackage, so it is not being pulled back in). The error log generated was the same for 4 tries - I used diff to check them and they only differed in the times at which they were written. The first one was different; then I had the nvidia drivers installed, but the end result was the same. There have now been a couple of replies about nouveau grabbing the graphics card and ways of stopping this. Another method is described on this page: http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-nvidia.html. I had expected that installation from the rpm package would take care of the problem. It is a considerable hurdle for an average user. -- N James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: errors on trying to install latest nvidia driver with F12
On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 10:03 -0700, Greg Woods wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 16:47 +, N James Bridge wrote: There have now been a couple of replies about nouveau grabbing the graphics card and ways of stopping this. Another method is described on this page: http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-nvidia.html. I had expected that installation from the rpm package would take care of the problem. There is no way that it can given how things are set up. You can't unload the nouveau module, even with root privileges, because it is in use. So there is no way that an RPM script can do this either. That isn't where the problem is. As I understand it, the point of changing initramfs as described in the reference cited above is that it prevents nouveau being loaded on *future* boots. Presumably the blacklist trick would work similarly if you edit the grub.conf file. Could not such changes be part of an installation script? An important point is that the system should automatically fall back to using nouveau if the nvidia driver doesn't match the kernel, which often happens when the kernel is updated and the driver update follows a day or so later. This wasn't a problem with F11 - all that happened was that the desktop effects would stop working temporarily. As for why nouveau loads even when the X config is not started, could it be something to do with the graphical bootloader, plymouth? -- N James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: sound in Flash
On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 11:24 +, Ian Malone wrote: 2009/11/19 N James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk: On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 19:18 -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: There is a 64-bit Flash plugin you know. Official. Downloadable off adobe.com. No need for 32-bit firefox or 32-bit pulse-libs. In the end since I had to reinstall I tried again with the 64 bit plugin, and it did work. So that's some comfort! -- N James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 installs report here.
On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 14:56 -0600, Steven Stern wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/17/2009 09:01 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote: Subject says it all. Tell us about your experience. LG So far, so good. I downloaded the i386 DVD via torrent last night and just ran the upgrade. Yum is updating now in the background. Sound Just Works! Including the stuff from RPM Fusion. Alas, upgrade from F11 to 12 x86-64 did not work for me (from DVD). First reboot just led to a black screen. Then I tried a fresh install but leaving the old /home partition. Foolishly I tried setting the system to use additional repos. That caused it to get stuck. Tried again, but now it insisted I must use extra repos - as though it could not find the local installation media - ie the dvd used to boot the machine! This happened twice, so I decided to go back to F11 - and the same thing happened with that. Gave up and went to bed! This morning I tried again with F12 and just let it do the default installation, which worked correctly. Fortunately I had a full backup of the /home folder but it would have been nice if it had just worked... Does anyone have any idea why the install would somehow lose the local installation media? Or how this could possibly carry through to installing F11? The dvd drive is only 6 months old and the hard drive passes all its health checks. -- N James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
sound recorder
Where has sound recorder gone? Seems a bit daft just to get to the point that one can easily select input from line-input and then remove the recorder program that uses it! Of course there are others, but recorder was very quick to use and just save an audio file. -- N James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: sound recorder
On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 22:21 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 11/18/2009 10:19 PM, N James Bridge wrote: Where has sound recorder gone? Seems a bit daft just to get to the point that one can easily select input from line-input and then remove the recorder program that uses it! Of course there are others, but recorder was very quick to use and just save an audio file. # gnome-sound-recorder Command not found. Install package 'gnome-media-apps' to provide command 'gnome-sound-recorder'? [N/y] * Installing packages.. * Getting information.. * Resolving dependencies.. * Waiting for authentication.. * Resolving dependencies.. * Downloading packages.. * Checking signatures.. * Testing changes.. * Installing packages.. * Scanning applications.. Installed. Rahul Well, I have got it, but not quite as you said. The command gnome-sound-recorder (as root) just gave Command not found - nothing about installing anything. So I did a yum install, which worked fine. Why does gnome-media-apps not appear in the Add/Remove Software choices? It certainly used to. -- N James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: sound recorder
On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 23:53 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 11/18/2009 11:49 PM, N James Bridge wrote: Well, I have got it, but not quite as you said. The command gnome-sound-recorder (as root) just gave Command not found - nothing about installing anything. So I did a yum install, which worked fine. You need to have PackageKit-command-not-found plugin installed for what I showed to work. OK - I just did the standard installation. Have to add that. Why does gnome-media-apps not appear in the Add/Remove Software choices? It certainly used to. gnome-media-apps is a new package this release IIRC. I search for it and got it. What did you search for? I can find it too when I search by name, but it doesn't show up in the multimedia group, which is where I looked ( just scrolled down the list). Rahul -- N James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
sound in Flash
I have got the Flash plugin to work in Firefox using nsplugin-wrapper in F12, x86_64. I get moving pictures but no sound. With F11 I had both. Apart from this, the sound is working as expected. Any ideas? -- N James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
no checksums for f12
https://fedoraproject.org/static/checksums/Fedora-12-x86_64-CHECKSUM doesn't work! -- James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk -- Fedora-websites-list mailing list Fedora-websites-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-websites-list
Re: How Fedora chose me
My impression is that Fedora is now getting very good. Over the last couple of years my main gripe has been over audio (sound recorder was useless and recent problems playing sound files) but the latest kernel upgrade seems to have removed the last of (several?) bugs and it all works beautifully. And to all those who hate PulseAudio, I can only say it works for me. So, a big thank you to all the developers James Bridge On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 20:56 +1000, Roger wrote: I'm as far from a geek as anybody can be, but I certainly appreciate that Fedora chose me. Using Fedora I've never looked back, it just works. Do the updates as soon as they come in and it should be fine, it is for me. Yum is the update manager, it works. If you're worried about security and not using the computer for some time, at night or if you go out, turn off the modem. About the only slow thing I found is Gimp when it has a lot of brushes to find. Roger -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: how to collect update report in FC11
Yet another option if you just want a concise summary of all updates is to use Applications/System Tools/Software log viewer. Only gives names, though, not version numbers. James -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: avidemux: trouble initialising audio device
On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 11:17 +0200, Borut Semenic wrote: Try different Audio output (ESD,OSS.. ), for me EDS is working. Best regards, Borut ESD works for me too. Thanks. Though I thought ESD was supposed to be replaced by pulseaudio... Work in progress, I suppose. James -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: avidemux: trouble initialising audio device
On Sat, 2009-08-22 at 23:37 +0200, Roberto Ragusa wrote: James Bridge wrote: I am trying to use avidemux in fedora 11 but when I try to play a video I get the message trouble initializing audio device. The video plays, but silently. Prefs for sound give various options, including ALSA but not PulseAudio. I suppose that's the problem. Has anyone got it to work? If you run avidemux with the command pasuspender -- avidemux pulseaudio will be disabled until avidemux exits, so avidemux will access the ALSA driver. Even if it is not exactly what you asked, it could be useful as a workaround. You also probably gain a better video/audio sync, which is good if you are editing video stuff. Best regards. -- Roberto Ragusamail at robertoragusa.it Thanks for this - I got avidemux running this way but it still gives the same error. I want to hear the sound to edit without cutting off what people are saying. So far, no solution. I must have a look at PA mamager -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
avidemux: trouble initialising audio device
I am trying to use avidemux in fedora 11 but when I try to play a video I get the message trouble initializing audio device. The video plays, but silently. Prefs for sound give various options, including ALSA but not PulseAudio. I suppose that's the problem. Has anyone got it to work? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
comparison of audio players: mplayer much the most reliable
Having got thoroughly frustrated by the frequent crashes of the sound system in fedora 11, I decided to investigate in a bit more depth. This is time consuming because you have to wait for a crash, anything up to 20 minutes. I opened System Tools/System Monitor/Processes to watch the CPU usage and the waiting channel (whatever that is!) Totem typically crashed within a couple of minutes. CPU usage for Totem was around 10% and for pulseaudio about 30%. Rhythmbox holds up longer, in the region of 10 minutes. CPU usage for Rhythmbox and for pulseaudio both obviously lower, around 5% and 15%. Gnome Mplayer does not seem to crash at all. CPU usage dramatically lower: mplayer itself barely registers (0-1%) and pa flickers between 1 and 5%. For all three programs, the CPU usage by pa seems to vary up and down in step with that for the music player itself. The healthy state for the waiting channel for pa, Totem and Rhythmbox is poll_schedule_timeout. On crashing, pa changes to futex_wait and the CPU usage goes up to about 70%; total for all process reaches 100%. In some cases pa generates an error message: pa_stream_writable_size() failed. More often, things just freeze up completely and a reboot is required. The waiting channel for mplayer is hrtimer_nanosleep. Presumably this difference has something to do with why mplayer is stable. I would report this as a bug but I don't know what system actually is buggy; pulseaudio seems to work fine with mplayer. Any suggestions? -- James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: conflicted file in update this morning?
On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 09:04 -0700, Alan Evans wrote: Came to work this morning and updater icon told me that updates were available on my F11 system. Pretty routine, I told it to go ahead and do the update. What wasn't routine was the subsequent error dialog complaining of Local file conflict between packages: Test Transaction Errors: file /usr/share/X11/locale/el_GR.UTF-8/Compose from install of libX11-1.2.2-1.fc11.x86_64 conflicts with file from package libX11-1.2.1-2.fc11.i586 snip The 32 and 64 bit packages have coexisted on my system for a long time. I don't even recall why I had the i586 package installed at all, but if I were to hazard a guess, I'd say that VMWare probably required the 32-bit libs. Anyway, today I can't update. Can anything be done? Or should this get bugzilla'd? And if so, against what? -Alan I had a similar problem, but with different packages, again for i586 and x86_64. The i586 ones were installed for nswrapper, so I can use the 32-bit Adobe Flash plugin. All were language packs and I guess that the architecture is irrelevant so the identical files appear in both packages. Package-updater and yum both object to updating one without the other but one has to go first... I got round the problem by doing yum update --tolerant. No problems evident so far. James -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Vista Won't Boot From Grub Under F11
On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 18:53 -0400, rgheck wrote: I've just installed F11 on my wife's machine, which is some cheap Gateway thing. Everything is working fine except that Vista (I'm hoping to be able to get rid of it for her, but not yet...) will not boot from grub. It starts to boot, then dies and dumps me into the System Recovery thing. I was able to restore the MBR as Vista wants it to be, and then it would boot fine again, and so I can use the popup boot chooser either to boot Vista or to find my way into grub. But this is not really what I want. I'd rather just use grub. No easy fix on offer, but I have got a setup which will boot into Vista or F11 using Grub. It worked the same with F10, too. The way I did it (very unsophisticated!) was to make a partition using half of the (only) hard drive and install Vista on that and then install Fedora into the remaining free space. The default options gave me a small /boot partition and all the rest for a lvm setup. It just worked! With two hard drives, I think you may have to put /boot on the first but Fedora can go on the second. -- James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Random screen blanking -- a clue
On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 21:13 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Sam Varshavchikmr...@courier-mta.com wrote: There's been a steady trickle of complaints from different folks about their screens going blank for a second, or two, after upgrading to F11. I noticed this sort of problem with previous versions of fedora, too, though definitely worse with the nouveau driver in F11. I mostly use the legacy nvidia driver which just flickers briefly and then recovers by itself, whereas with F11 and nouveau I have to touch the mouse to get the display back. (Now reverted to nvidia - I like the screen candy!) -- James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Choppy mic input in Mumble on F11
On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 19:23 +0930, Tim wrote: On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 09:14 +0300, Ville-Pekka Vainio wrote: I came across the same problem yesterday, I even blogged about it [1], because it seems so weird. The way I fixed it was to keep the Sound Preferences window open while using Mumble. I'd file a bug if I had an idea which component I should file the bug against. Mumble? Pulseaudio? Something else? File against the thing you're having problems with. They'll re-allocate it to the other thing, if they think the problem's not down to their package. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.24-78.2.53.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. I have had similar problems with F10 and F11 beta, though not (yet!) with F11. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494059 and https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=482932 The tests with the console made it seem that the basic problem was in recording the audio input fast enough, which means there are a lot of gaps. However, it wasn't just a hardware problem, because it was intermittent and seems now to have been cured without any change to the machine. -- James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Adobe flash-player not working for F11 x86_64
On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 12:34 +0200, Major Péter wrote: Hi, read this: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flash Peter 2009-06-14 12:30 keltezéssel, Digvijay Patankar írta: Hi friends, I have installed Fedora 11 x86_64 on my laptop. But adobe flash-player don't work on 64 bit platform. It gives error ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the Adobe Flash Player installer. I could not find out the x86_64 version of flash player. Is it available? If not is there any trick to this so that I can install flash player and enjoy the videos on net? -Digvijay See instructions at this page: http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-f11.html -- James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: fc12 out already ?
On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 18:30 -0400, Andrew Jamison wrote: On 6/11/2009 3:45 PM, James Bridge wrote: Having just installed F11, I let it do all the upgrades and it then failed to load. I reinstalled and looking at the list of updates, I see that the kernel upgrade is marked 2.6.30-0.97.rc8.fc12(x86_64). There are many others also marked fc12. This must be a very recent change because I had already installed F11 and upgraded it succesfully (yesterday) but alas due to my own stupidity had to start again I know F11 was a couple of weeks late but trying to compensate by bringing F12 out 6 months early is sure to bring disappointment... I am guessing you using an older version of the fedora 11 iso one before it was released. This is problematic because at the time it was composed F11 was rawhide however now rawhide is development for f12 meaning you need to download and install a f11 release iso to get the fedora repos and not the rawhide repos Thanks, everyone! My dvd writer was playing up and I tried to install from the f11 beta live cd. Seemed to work, until the update problem. After reinstalling, I found that an attempt to change the repository raised an error which prevented me doing anything. I have now bought a new dvd writer and installed from the f11 dvd - which I had already got. All seems good so far. -- James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: can't record from line input
On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 09:10 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/6/10 James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk: F11 seems only to have microphone input. I could record from line input in F10, using audacity. (Gnome sound recorder always gave problems.) F11 has simplified the audio controls to the point that it seems impossible to activate the line input. What to do? No point in suggesting remove PulseAudio, since that won't bring the ALSA controls back! Investigate the Advanced Volume Control in the Preferences menu. I believe it's invoked from the command line as gst-mixer. This is what the F11 Release Notes have to say on your subject: --- Volume Control An updated volume control manager application provides you with more control over your audio preferences. Better integrated with PulseAudio, you can now control individual application inputs and outputs along with the sources and destinations for the audio. Using the new PulseAudio-based volume applet, there is no way to adjust ALSA sound levels. If they are set too low, raising the PulseAudio sound levels may not work acceptably. For this contingency, the old gstreamer-based volume application is also available by default. It is available under the name Advanced Volume Control, in the SystemPreferences menu section. You will also need to use this application if you need to select an input channel for recording (for instance, line-in or mic-in). --- -- Sam Thanks for this. I had installed F11 from the live CD and that doesn't install the advanced volume control. I hadn't got around to looking at the installation notes - that's what comes of expecting things to just work! -- James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
fc12 out already ?
Having just installed F11, I let it do all the upgrades and it then failed to load. I reinstalled and looking at the list of updates, I see that the kernel upgrade is marked 2.6.30-0.97.rc8.fc12(x86_64). There are many others also marked fc12. This must be a very recent change because I had already installed F11 and upgraded it succesfully (yesterday) but alas due to my own stupidity had to start again I know F11 was a couple of weeks late but trying to compensate by bringing F12 out 6 months early is sure to bring disappointment... -- James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: No audio on F11 and pulseaudio questions
On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 20:37 +0100, Chris wrote: Installed F11 yesterday. Generally very impressed but I've got no sound. I'm using an M-Audio Audiophile 2496 card and there's a bug report which matches the symptoms I'm experiencing here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499435 In the comments, the reporter mentions that sound works when he stops pulseaudio and runs through alsa. I'm struggling to do the same since pulseaudio always restarts itself. I've tried pulseaudio -k and kill pulse's PID but it always respawns. I had a look in /etc/event.d to see if it's started in there and is set to respawn but there's nothing there. Any ideas on how I can kill pulse? I'd also ask if anyone's got ideas about how to fix the lack of sound, but it looks like a bug that others are also experiencing. Sounds like you need the Advanced volume control, in Preferences. (If it isn't there, install gst-mixer.) It gives you access to all the underlying ALSA stuff. The control has it's own prefs settings, which you will probably need to make everything visible. -- James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F11: can't record from line input
F11 seems only to have microphone input. I could record from line input in F10, using audacity. (Gnome sound recorder always gave problems.) F11 has simplified the audio controls to the point that it seems impossible to activate the line input. What to do? No point in suggesting remove PulseAudio, since that won't bring the ALSA controls back! Any suggestions gratefully received -- James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F11 for x86_64
It seems F11 has arrived, but only in 32 bit versions. Anyone cast any light on this? -- James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11 for x86_64
On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 16:29 +0100, James Bridge wrote: It seems F11 has arrived, but only in 32 bit versions. Anyone cast any light on this? Thanks for your comments. I found a UK mirror (mirrors.vexs.net) which has copies of the files - dated 2 June, but not named as beta. Trying that. -- James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10 not connected at start up -
On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 12:03 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 14:34 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: I have an F-10 box that does not connect at boot. I believe network manager is completely disabled. It starts in text mode, I enter startx. snip the default is to have NetworkManager service on and 'network' service off and also to boot runlevel 5 so clearly you have been changing things since the original installation. You might want to ensure that 'network' service is set to automatically start at your runlevel (you don't say which boot level you are setting)... A recent update had the effect of disabling the network service on my F10 desktop, so when the machine booted up, it didn't connect the ethernet port. Following Craig's hint, I looked at System Services network and simply pressed the green button to enable it again! James -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Firefox does not open .PNG files anymore
On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 21:11 -0700, stan wrote: Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: Hi, Since recently, possibly after the upgrade to 3.0.6, Firefox does not open .PNG files anymore. When I click a link which points to a .PNG file, Firefox asks for an external application to open the file instead of opening it directly in Firefox. How do I get the old behavior back? Thanks, Marcelo I don't think that is due to the upgrade to 3.0.6. I'm running that version on F10 and it shows png files just fine. Maybe it is a configuration in about:config? No problems here. Say which link is giving trouble and we can test it. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Peculiar behaviour of Sound recorder
Apologies for hijacking a thread - I'm trying again. I wonder if anyone else can confirm this observation... I find that audio files recorded using Sound Recorder (in F10) are often defective, with little bits of sound alternating with silence. The pattern made by the gaps seems random. But sometimes things work as they should. I have just worked out a recipe for getting things to work every time (I hope!) but it seems more like black magic... 1) Set Sound Capture (in Sound Preferences) to Pulse Audio 2) Open the Pulse Audio volume control (Applications menu). If you choose the tab for input you can see the volume control and a vu-meter, which is useful, but there is no need to do anything provided the meter registers an input. 3) Start recording. 4) Stop recording and playback - should sound ok. If I omit step 2 the sound is usually crappy Why? -- Noel James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Peculiar behaviour of sound recorder
I wonder if anyone else can confirm this observation... I find that audio files recorded using Sound Recorder (in F10) are often defective, with little bits of sound alternating with silence. The pattern made by the gaps seems random. But sometimes things work as they should. I have just worked out a recipe for getting things to work every time (I hope!) but it seems more like black magic... 1) Set Sound Capture (in Sound Preferences) to Pulse Audio 2) Open the Pulse Audio volume control (Applications menu). If you choose the tab for input you can see the volume control and a vu-meter, which is useful, but there is no need to do anything provided the meter registers an input. 3) Start recording. 4) Stop recording and playback - should sound ok. Now repeat the above, but omitting step 2. Sound is crap. Why? -- Noel James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Printers
On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 11:19 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: I'd recommend HP, because the CUPS drivers (HPLIP) are Free Software, written by HP themselves and included in Fedora (so they work out of the box). ... One drawback though is that HP is not the cheapest option out there (especially if you count the ink/toner prices - for example, HP inkjets have the print heads on the cartridge, which means they're less susceptible to defects, but which also means the cartridges are very expensive; I have a hp deskjet at home which gets light use, mostly. The integrated print head has a big advantage in this situation, one which is not immediately obvious. The main limitation on performance is simply that the jets very gradually dry out so that the quality becomes uneven. With a hp printer you replace the print head and it works as new. By contrast with an Epson printer I found that this was not possible. The result is that the hp printer has lasted far longer. James Bridge -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Evolution broken
Without any apparent reason, Evolution has suddenly become unable to send or receive messages. I set up Thunderbird instead and that works fine. However, it downloaded about 3500 messages that should have been deleted, so it looks as though there has been a problem for some time. Webmail shows that the messages have now been deleted but Evolution still has the Send/Receive button greyed out. Anyone else had similar problems? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Evolution broken
Chris Tyler wrote: On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 10:45 +, Noel James Bridge wrote: Without any apparent reason, Evolution has suddenly become unable to send or receive messages. I set up Thunderbird instead and that works fine. However, it downloaded about 3500 messages that should have been deleted, so it looks as though there has been a problem for some time. Webmail shows that the messages have now been deleted but Evolution still has the Send/Receive button greyed out. Anyone else had similar problems? Is Evolution offline? (Disconnected icon in the lower-left corner, or FileWork Online/Offline) This is the only time I see the Send/Receive button greyed out. -Chris Duh! That was it. Thanks, Chris James -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: how to play an audio cd?
On Sat, 2008-12-27 at 00:33 -0500, slamp slamp wrote: is anyone successful in playing an audio cd? i insert an audio cd, fedora 10 nicely asks what i want to do, i select open in rhythmbox but it does nothing. ... In the panel on the left, you will see a heading Devices and an icon for the audio cd. Click on that and the track information comes up in the main panel. Hit the play button! The toolbar includes various tools specific to cds. If the disc is ejected, the cd options all disappear. Rhythmbox will use PulseAudio if it's there so you may need to play with the volume controls for that as well as the one you normally see on the screen. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F-spot and raw files
On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 08:32 -0700, Kevin Kempter wrote: Hi all; I tried to use F-spot (I'm shooting RAW format with a Nikon D300) It displays the images but I cannot edit them. Is there another package I need ? There is a program called dcraw which works from the command line and another called ufraw which provides a graphical interface for dcraw. Both are in the Fedora repository -- N. James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Whoa! Need help resolving Yum issues
On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 10:40 -0800, Dan Thurman wrote: I get this error from Yum... ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on :1.31:/org/freedesktop/PackageKit: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable member Introspect error name (unset) destination :1.31) I cannot seem to be able to get my yum updates working. It is showing all sorts of dependency errors and I removed: + kadu + gyachi and finally the only one left is: fuse-emulator for which I cannot remove. What can I do to kick-start my yum updates so that I can later add back in the above removed packages? Thanks! Dan This was the subject of animated discussion recently: as I recall, an update to dbus broke the automatic updates. I know the bug has been fixed and I think that all that is necessary is to do yum update dbus. -- N. James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: gnome sound recorder
On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 22:14 +, N. James Bridge wrote: On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 16:44 +, N. James Bridge wrote: ... somehow Sound recorder has got messed up. It now records a sound which stutters on playback, with little bits of sound interspersed with silence. ... I have now got things working again by disconnecting the webcam and then rebooting. Simple reboot was ineffective and Sound recorder was working when the webcam was connected before. Presumably it's got something to do with the mike in the webcam being recognised as another input device I seem to be talking to myself, but maybe someone will join in... The problem has come back, this time spontaneously with no help from Audacity and with the webcam disconnected. I recorded one file successfully, saved it, played back with Totem to check and then tried to make another recording. That one stuttered on playback. Two questions: 1) what is going wrong and 2) how to fix it? Any advice will be much appreciated. -- N. James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: gnome sound recorder
On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 14:46 -0500, max bianco wrote: The problem has come back, this time spontaneously with no help from Audacity and with the webcam disconnected. I recorded one file successfully, saved it, played back with Totem to check and then tried to make another recording. That one stuttered on playback. Two questions: 1) what is going wrong and 2) how to fix it? Any advice will be much appreciated. A little more information wouldn't hurt. Which version of Audacity? version of sound recorder? Have you looked for bugs filed against either program? what sound device are you using? what is the big picture of the hardware your using? i.e. lspci -v Are there any driver issues? Just saying it doesn't work doesn't give much to go on, are you up to date with patches and such? when was the last update? Perhaps its a shared library that is causing the issue? I haven't gotten around to installing f10 yet but if can answer some of these questions then perhaps someone might be able to give you something better than a guess. Just a thought. Fair comment. Some answers, at least. I'm running F10 with everything up to date. (FWIW, I couldn't get sound recorder to work at all in F9.) Newish desktop, sound card integrated (ICH5) - nothing special. Yes, I have looked for similar bugs but can't find anything useful. (Some reports of crashes or high CPU usage but nothing like the stuttering effect.) The Gnome-media site says the sound recorder uses OSS or ALSA but in F10 it is certainly linked to Pulse Audio, because the PA volume control has a recording tab which shows gnome-sound-recorder when it is recording. More details: gnome-sound-recorder 2.24.0.1 Audacity 1.3.4 (but it wasn't involved in the latest breakdown) 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02) Subsystem: Elitegroup Computer Systems Device 1878 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17 I/O ports at d800 [size=256] I/O ports at dc00 [size=64] Memory at fa101000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512] Memory at fa102000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256] Capabilities: access denied Kernel driver in use: Intel ICH Kernel modules: snd-intel8x0 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora User Guide
On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 17:42 -0500, Matthew Daniels wrote: Fedora User Guide Update The user guide for Fedora 8 has been hidden within the FedoraProject.org wiki for some time now. It has finally been cleaned up and placed neatly in its own page. We have also added a User Guide category under which future UGs should be located. Well, thank you, but it does appear a bit basic. Most apps come with documentation but some things really do need explaining - like sound. The Fedora desktop menus provide a volume control for ALSA (and OSS) and another one for PA. There is also a Sound Preferences window, the first tab of which bears little resemblance to what is described in the help file. Some of this stuff one can figure out by trial and error and playback seems to work reliably but recording is a different matter. -- N. James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
gnome sound recorder
I'm sure I'm not the first person to raise this sort of issue, but audio settings can be most confusing... Having installed Fedora 10 from scratch, I got Sound recorder working after some trial and error. It's been fine for a couple of weeks - I've been using it regularly. However, I also use Audacity in order to edit out clicks in the sound files and somehow Sound recorder has got messed up. It now records a sound which stutters on playback, with little bits of sound interspersed with silence. Audacity says the saved .oga file is not recognised. The breakdown occurred during a session when I had Sound recorder on (but not recording) and started Audacity at the same time. A mistake, evidently. Does anyone recognise these problems? What can I do to fix them? Not to put too fine a point on it, the various help files are useless... The one for Sound Preferences describes an interface which is completely different from what you actually see. Help, please! James -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: gnome sound recorder
On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 16:44 +, N. James Bridge wrote: ... somehow Sound recorder has got messed up. It now records a sound which stutters on playback, with little bits of sound interspersed with silence. ... I have now got things working again by disconnecting the webcam and then rebooting. Simple reboot was ineffective and Sound recorder was working when the webcam was connected before. Presumably it's got something to do with the mike in the webcam being recognised as another input device -- N. James Bridge ja...@xmas.demon.co.uk -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
packagekit
Packagekit has started to give this error message: failed to get a TID: A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface org.freedesktop.PackageKit.Transaction member SetLocale error name (unset) destination org.freedesktop.PackageKit) (0) It appears for any request; the actual package does not seem to matter. The list of repos is apparently empty. However, yum prints the repo list as expected and installs packages correctly, though it does add a similar message at the end of the transaction. Problem started when I downloaded and installed the latest version of GRAMPS from this site: http://www.squirrel.nl/pub/xfer/gramps-3.0.4-2jv.fc10.noarch.rpm What's going on and how can I fix it!? James -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: packagekit
On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 21:36 +0100, Thierry wrote: N. James Bridge a écrit : Packagekit has started to give this error message: snip What's going on and how can I fix it!? James it's a know issue see https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-December/msg00812.html the responsible party has apologized, wait a bit for a fix to be published. hth T It does help. Impressively quick reply! James -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
