Re: kernel development approach for fedora
On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 17:19 -0400, Chris Snook wrote: Mail Lists wrote: On 10/10/2008 03:49 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Mail Lists wrote: In this new mode we would have only 2 streams - current development and stable. There are a few distributions that do this - Gentoo, Arch etc. Each has it's advantages and disadvantages. One of the problems of rolling release model distributions in a mass scale is that, it is pretty difficult to stabilize even to a nominal level. Rahul While that is true, the argument goes that large periodic releases has drawbacks too - and the kernel seems to be do pretty well with its approach ... I still wonder whether the kernel way may work for fedora .. The rolling release model works well for distributions that simply follow upstream, but Fedora is often *ahead* of upstream on several features. We need to maintain a bit more stability with the baseline package so we can safely add the innovative patches that aren't yet in Linus's kernel tree. -- Chris For me, Fedora is a good compromise between a rolling release model and the discrete releases model that some other distributions use. I do not have to wait half a year before I can use a more recent version of Banshee, Pidgin etc. than which was originally included at the time of release. Besides, I prefer Fedora's use of bleeding edge software which is nevertheless quite stable to the rolling releases of Gentoo and Arch. Jeroen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Video card
On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 14:48 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Monday 06 October 2008 21:04, Dan wrote: ATI --- superb performance, both 2D and 3D. The glxgears tool typically reports thousands of fps, provided the 3D driver. For 2D there is the open-source radeon driver (provided by default in Fedora) which works less than ok for its intended usage. For 3D there are no open source drivers (yes , ATI DOES NOT SUPPORT 3D OPEN SOURCE DRIVERS, contrary to what people usually say), only ATI-supplied binary drivers which are usually completely broken and unusable. I do have usable 3d acceleration for my ATI Mobility Radeon X1400 using the open source radeon driver which is good enough for compositing and desktop effects. However, for me at least, the driver does not seem to work properly with most 3D games such as Doom3 and windows games run via wine. Quake3 on the other hands runs fine though. You will have to update Fedora after installation to benefit from the new drivers and 3d acceleration. It could be that is because of some of my settings in xorg.conf. I haven't really looked into that as I don't use my laptop for playing games. Furthermore, I do not know how well newer ATI cards work with Fedora. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: New Fedora 9 Re-spins
On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 15:09 -0500, Brian Millett wrote: ben escribío: The Fedora Unity Project is proud to announce the release of new ISO Re-Spins of Fedora 9. These Re-Spin ISOs are based on the officially released Fedora 8 installation media and include all updates released as of October 4th, 2008. Do you mean the officially released Fedora 9 ?? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines I'd say it's a spin of Fedora 9. The link in the announcement mentions Fedora Unity F9 Re-Spin 20081004 SHA1SUMs. The last Fedora 8 Re-Spin contains updates up to August 14th, 2008. Jeroen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Wireless, Broadcom
On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 16:59 -0400, Vincent Onelli wrote: 12. Re: Wireless, Broadcom (Timothy Murphy) -- Message: 12 Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:24:08 +0100 From: Timothy Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Wireless, Broadcom To: fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Vincent Onelli wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sudo apt-get install nddiswrapper-utils ndisgtk [sudo] password for vinnyo: (here I entered my root PW) Sorry, try again. [sudo] password for vinnyo: (here I entered my user PW) vinnyo is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. I could not even get start, What am I doing wrong? I think you are asking how to get on the sudoer list? The answer to that is to give the command visudo as root. Personally, I then uncomment the wheel without password line, and then run vigr and vigr -s to add myself to the wheel group. I don't know if that is the official route. I am still try to learn Linux, so most of time I am lost like in this situation. While I was waiting for the answer I went to http://dnmouse.org/autoinstall.html I selected sudo with password it downloaded the autonine file running this file assigned the password automatically. Now when I repeat the command sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common nddiswrapper-utils ndisgtk it accept the password but it cannot find the apt-get is this a file that I need to get some where? Thank you Vinny -- Timothy Murphy Hello Vinny, Fedora uses yum instead of apt-get to install applications. The system cannot find apt-get because the program just isn't there. Furthermore, ndiswrapper is not included in the official fedora repositories. There is a tutorial on setting up ndiswrapper on Fedora: http://fedoramobile.org/fc-wireless/ndis-yum-livna . This text assumes you have configured yum to use the livna repository (which does contain the ndiswrapper packages) as explained in http://fedoramobile.org/solved/post-install-solutions/yum-config/ . I hope this will be enough to get you started. Good luck, Jeroen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: thefts and encrypted FS (Re: what dose this do)
On Sat, 2008-09-27 at 11:06 -0700, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Short answer: It'll make it very hard for people with physical access to boot your computer and read personal files (possibly containing passwords or other sensitive information). True, but that will also make it hard for the laptop to call home for help if it gets stolen. Just something to think about. After fretting about this for a while, I decided it was more important for the laptop to boot than for it to have everything encrypted. I want my laptop to boot and contact my server so that I can see which IP address it has popped up at. I'm sure the detectives at my local police station would be interested too. They don't often get to catch thieves red-handed like that. Most thefts around here go unsolved. I was too disorganized when I installed F9 to break /home out into a separate filesystem. If I had done that I could have encrypted /home yet left the root FS intact. Come to think of it, I do have everything under LVM, so I suppose I could still break out /home and encrypt the user stuff. -wolfgang -- Wolfgang S. Rupprecht http://www.full-steam.org/ (ipv6-only) You may need to config 6to4 to see the above pages. That is an interesting thought. I like the idea of letting my laptop contact my server. However, I wonder how it will work out in a real life situation. How many thieves would be comfortable with using Linux and network manager to connect to a network? Besides, they would still need to have a user account on the laptop. Eventually the thief could succeed, but I doubt whether he/she will go through all the trouble. I think it is wise to encrypt more than just your home partition. Swap-, /etc and /tmp partitions will probably contain some personal information as well. Jeroen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: what dose this do
On Sat, 2008-09-27 at 10:03 -0400, William Biggs wrote: when I installed fedora 9 I seen I can encryption system what dose that do ? Short answer: It'll make it very hard for people with physical access to boot your computer and read personal files (possibly containing passwords or other sensitive information). You pick a pass phrase which is used to encrypt most of the data on your hard disk. By default, all Linux partitions except /boot are encrypted. When you turn your computer on, you will be asked to enter your pass phrase. Using the correct pass phrase, Linux can decrypt and read the data. If your computer is powered off and someone else tries to access your files, he/she will not succeed as he/she does not know the pass phrase. Here is a quick example showing why this is useful. Suppose you have a laptop and it is stolen. At least, you now know that it will be very hard for the thief to access your files. The thief will not be able to read/use any information without the pass phrase. I hope this clarifies things a bit, Jeroen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: still no progress with opengl video problems?
Hello David, Although, this does not answer your questions, it might provide you with an alternative. I experienced all sort of problems watching videos on my laptop with an ATI Mobility Radeon X1400 (using the open source radeon driver) when I enabled desktop effects. On my up-to-date Fedora 9 system with I was able to solve these problems thanks to a tip from the #radeon channel on Freenode. What I did was enable EXA acceleration in my xorg.conf like so: Section Device Identifier Videocard0 Driver radeon Option AccelMethod EXA EndSection After a restart of X, I executed gstreamer-properties and on the video tab I selected X Window System (X11/XShm/Xv) as the default output plugin and then selected Radeon Textured Video as the default output device. That solved all the problems I encountered when watching videos with desktop effects enabled. I hope this might be of some help to you as well. Jeroen On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 19:34 +0200, David Hláčik wrote: Hello guys, so far i was solving problems with opengl video output with ATI binary drivers compiz turned on Fedora 9. Videos are blinking . As i was informed, problem can not be solved. It is becouse bug is on ATI driver side? Thanks! David -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
