Re: couldn't change resolution in Vmware

2008-05-21 Thread Kam Leo
2008/5/21 Mustafa Qasim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hello!
>I've just installed F9 in my Vmware workstation 6 but I couldn't
> change my defualt 800x600 resolution to 1024x768. Is  VMware causing this
> problem? Any Idea.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Mustafa Qasim

Have you installed vmware-tools?

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Re: Booting F9 with NO X11

2008-06-07 Thread Kam Leo
On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Rick Bilonick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Sat, 2008-06-07 at 13:27 -0400, Rick Bilonick wrote:
>> On Sat, 2008-06-07 at 13:20 -0400, Rick Bilonick wrote:
>> > On Sat, 2008-06-07 at 13:13 -0400, Rick Bilonick wrote:
>> > > I've installed F9 x86 on an hp 2133. But, as I expected, the graphical
>> > > interface is screwed up. (I had the same problem with the LiveCD). I've
>> > > tried passing the following options at boot (vesa skipddc vga=794) but a
>> > > weird somewhat blank screen always comes up and the system is locked (I
>> > > can't get to a console to try to fix X).
>> > >
>> > > How can I boot just to a non-graphical system so I can get to a console?
>> > >
>> > > I've asked repeatedly on this list for related info but so far no one
>> > > has responded. Please, I need some help!
>> > >
>> > > Rick B.
>> > >
>> >
>> > OK, I tried adding "text" and that allows be to get to a text console.
>> >
>> > Now all I have to do is get X working (it works fine using SUSE 10).
>> >
>> > Rick B.
>> >
>>
>> It's very weird. F9 appears to correctly identify the graphics card
>> (something like "chrome" by VIA). I changed this in xorg.conf to "vesa"
>> which I thought would be very generic but now the screen goes black when
>> I execute "startx".
>>
>> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>
> I just changed "vesa" to "vga" but there does not appear to be a "vga"
> driver installed. I'm not sure what rpm to install.
>
> Rick B.

The graphics adapter might not be able to support the millions of
color depth that you have chosen. Try "vga=733".

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Re: Booting F9 with NO X11

2008-06-07 Thread Kam Leo
On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Rick Bilonick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Sat, 2008-06-07 at 10:38 -0700, Les wrote:
>> On Sat, 2008-06-07 at 13:34 -0400, Rick Bilonick wrote:
>> > On Sat, 2008-06-07 at 13:27 -0400, Rick Bilonick wrote:
>> > > On Sat, 2008-06-07 at 13:20 -0400, Rick Bilonick wrote:
>> > > > On Sat, 2008-06-07 at 13:13 -0400, Rick Bilonick wrote:
>> > > > > I've installed F9 x86 on an hp 2133. But, as I expected, the 
>> > > > > graphical
>> > > > > interface is screwed up. (I had the same problem with the LiveCD). 
>> > > > > I've
>> > > > > tried passing the following options at boot (vesa skipddc vga=794) 
>> > > > > but a
>> > > > > weird somewhat blank screen always comes up and the system is locked 
>> > > > > (I
>> > > > > can't get to a console to try to fix X).
>> > > > >
>> > > > > How can I boot just to a non-graphical system so I can get to a 
>> > > > > console?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I've asked repeatedly on this list for related info but so far no one
>> > > > > has responded. Please, I need some help!
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Rick B.
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > OK, I tried adding "text" and that allows be to get to a text console.
>> > > >
>> > > > Now all I have to do is get X working (it works fine using SUSE 10).
>> > > >
>> > > > Rick B.
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > It's very weird. F9 appears to correctly identify the graphics card
>> > > (something like "chrome" by VIA). I changed this in xorg.conf to "vesa"
>> > > which I thought would be very generic but now the screen goes black when
>> > > I execute "startx".
>> > >
>> > > Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>> > >
>> > > Rick
>> > >
>> >
>> > I just changed "vesa" to "vga" but there does not appear to be a "vga"
>> > driver installed. I'm not sure what rpm to install.
>> >
>> > Rick B.
>> >
>> Have you tried turning on detail during boot to see what the system
>> discovers about your video?  Also look at the setup screen for your
>> system to see what it shows about the video.
>>
>> Then post that here.  Someone may have an answer if they have that kind
>> of information.  I can't help, I left HP systems a long time ago, and
>> won't go back due to some of their setup stuff that makes using any OS
>> but windows very difficult.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Les H
>>
>
> The HP 2133 comes with SUSE Linux but I'm more familiar with Fedora. I
> will post that information soon. But for now, I should note that Fedora
> 8 LiveCD booted without any problems.
>

SUSE uses GRUB and XORG.  Examine the kernel stanza and see what
setting they're using.


> I was able to boot in pure text mode to a console, and I connected also
> an external LCD monitor. I changed xorg.conf so that it had "vesa" as
> the driver (the same from what I can tell for Fedora 8 LiveCD) and it
> displays perfectly on the external monitor.
>
> The best I can tell at the moment, F9 chose the openchrome driver which
> comes from the vendor and I would think that is the correct driver but
> it doesn't work. When I switch the hard drives and boot the Suse Linux
> Enterprise Desktop (SLED) 10 SP2, I will try to determine the driver
> that is being used.
>
> Rick B.
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Re: smartrpm

2008-06-12 Thread Kam Leo
2008/6/12 Justin Conover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I just noticed when I installed smartrpm on Fedora 9, that is is pointing to
> 8.92 directory, Instead of 9... Guess I shall file a bug.

Don't bother. Multiple bug reports have already been filed. I'm
surprised that this problem keeps re-occurring. Same thing happened
for the Fedora 8 release. Axel must have his hands full.

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Re: yum update sorts by file size before downloading

2008-06-12 Thread Kam Leo
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 2:40 PM, MKas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think it's good that now is sorted by size.
>
> But it will be better if user could to changed sorting type by itself from 4 
> variants:
> 1: sorting all files down size
> 2: sorting all files up size
> 3: sorting dependency* files down size
> 4: sorting dependency* files up size
>
> *dependency - Ex. I want to install 3 different programs (postfix, php-mysql, 
> wine). So yum calculates dependency and installs firstly postfix and his 
> dependency, later php-mysql + dependency and then wine + dependency.
>

You don't have to use yum to perform updates. There are other options
available, e.g. smart or apt.

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Re: smartrpm

2008-06-12 Thread Kam Leo
2008/6/12 Todd Zullinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Kam Leo wrote:
>> Don't bother. Multiple bug reports have already been filed. I'm
>> surprised that this problem keeps re-occurring. Same thing happened
>> for the Fedora 8 release. Axel must have his hands full.
>
> The package ACLs appear to allow cvsextras members to commit.  Any
> guess why some other maintainer who uses smart just fix it?  I've
> never used smart at all, else I'd consider doing it myself.
>
> --
> Todd

The bug fix is trivial. The problem is that the fixed package,
supposedly supplied on 21 May, has gone AWOL.

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Re: hard drive install FC6 failed

2008-06-12 Thread Kam Leo
2008/6/12 RyanYee/叶晔 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 1.my pc install with WinXp , and I want install FC6 in same harddisk.I don't
> understand what's you have said
>>>
>>> Aa Far As I Know none of the nixes refer to drives by letters like e:
>>> that is a windows convention.
>
> 2.grub has boot vmlinuz with initrd.img successful,so no problem with grub
> configure.I think problem is FC6 installer cannot find harddisk even than
> iso file.and if it can find harddisk ,it can sure find the directory ,it's
> not a question.
>>>
>>> Probably because of the way you refer to the file and where it is stored.
>>> Maybe you need a separate FAT or FAT32 partition to store the ISO or even
>>> better something formatted with ext3 or other nix filesystem, others can
>>> probably explain it better but I would say that is your problem.
>>>
>>>
>> Never mind what I said. I should have gone back and reread the thread
>> before I responded, my memory is shoddier than I remember ;^)>
>> --
>> An unwillingness to embarrass oneself makes learning more difficult
>
> RyanYee
>

For installation from Windows try UNetbootin, http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/

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Re: Download manager hangs

2008-06-12 Thread Kam Leo
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 7:04 PM, John Selmys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello
>
>   Twice tonight I tried to download the F9 ISO. First the DVD, then the live
> CD. In both cases the download manager hung up at the very end. I had no
> option but to cancel the download. The DVD download wasted 5 hours and the
> CD download wasted another hour. I'm already using F9 on an AMD X2. I
> downloaded F9 ISO when my system was running F8. I upgraded to F9 and then
> gave away my DVD/CD. Now I wanted to get new copies for myself. I do my
> downloads with Seamonkey. It seems like the last chunk of the ISO just can't
> be delivered. I guess I'll have to use bittorrent or perhaps command-line
> ftp. I wonder if Seamonkey's download manager is broken?
>
> John

If a torrent is too slow for you or a firewall is in the way try using
wget from the command line. "wget -c full-url-path-to-file" will
resume downloads.

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Re: No more updates in FC8 ?

2008-06-13 Thread Kam Leo
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 4:21 AM, Wong Kwok-hon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I got the following errors even I deleted all cached files of yum. And
> how to fix it ?
>
> Thanks...
>
> Loading "fastestmirror" plugin
> Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
>  * livna: ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de
>  * fedora: fedora.mirrors.firstnetcom.com
>  * adobe-linux-i386: linuxdownload.adobe.com
>  * updates: ftp.cse.yzu.edu.tw
>  * extras: download.fedora.redhat.com
> primary.sqlite.bz2100% |=|  56 kB00:30
> http://ftp.cse.yzu.edu.tw/pub/Linux/Fedora/updates/8/i386/repodata/primary.sqlite.bz2:
> [Errno 4] Socket Error: timed out
> Trying other mirror.
> primary.sqlite.bz2100% |=|  56 kB00:30
> http://ftp.isu.edu.tw/pub/Linux/Fedora/linux/updates/8/i386/repodata/primary.sqlite.bz2:
> [Errno 4] Socket Error: timed out
> Trying other mirror.
> primary.sqlite.bz2100% |=| 3.0 MB00:17
> http://ftp.riken.jp/Linux/fedora/updates/8/i386/repodata/primary.sqlite.bz2:
> [Errno -1] Metadata file does not match checksum
> Trying other mirror.
> primary.sqlite.bz2100% |=| 3.0 MB00:20
> http://ftp.jaist.ac.jp/pub/Linux/Fedora/updates/8/i386/repodata/primary.sqlite.bz2:
> [Errno -1] Metadata file does not match checksum
> Trying other mirror.
> primary.sqlite.bz2100% |=| 2.9 MB00:45
> http://seeder.yandex.net/fedora/linux/updates/8/i386/repodata/primary.sqlite.bz2:
> [Errno -1] Metadata file does not match checksum
> Trying other mirror.
> primary.sqlite.bz2100% |=| 2.9 MB00:26
> http://allotter.yandex.net/fedora/linux/updates/8/i386/repodata/primary.sqlite.bz2:
> [Errno -1] Metadata file does not match checksum
> Trying other mirror.
> primary.sqlite.bz2100% |=| 2.9 MB00:37
> http://spreader.yandex.net/fedora/linux/updates/8/i386/repodata/primary.sqlite.bz2:
> [Errno -1] Metadata file does not match checksum
> Trying other mirror.
> Error: failure: repodata/primary.sqlite.bz2 from updates: [Errno 256]
> No more mirrors to try.

I just tried updating with yum and  have no difficulity reaching the
F8 repositories. (According to yum there are 63 updates available for
my system.)  I do not use the fastestmirror plugin. You might try
disabling fastestmirrors and try updating again, or use another
package manager such as smart or apt-get.

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Re: F9 Installation Challenge

2008-06-13 Thread Kam Leo
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Dave Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Aaron Konstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Sat, 2008-06-07 at 07:19 +0100, Dave Cross wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Phil Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> > Dave Cross wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> As mentioned in a couple of previous mails to this list, trying to
>>> >> upgrade my laptop[1] from F8 to F9 has gone horribly wrong. I'd really
>>> >> appreciate any help to fix this.
>>> >>
>>> >> I basically have two problems.
>>> >>
>>> >> 1/ I can't use any of the Fedora boot media.
>>> >
>>> > This is well discussed here.
>>> >
>>> > The new media has GRUB on it (starting with F8).  Some BIOS don't like it
>>> > and the keyboard becomes unusable, or the machine hard hangs.
>>> >
>>> > The workaround is to prevent the GRUB menu from coming up.
>>> >
>>> > There are two methods that have been discussed, one of which I have used
>>> > many times. (I install 30-40 systems a week in testing, sometimes)
>>> >
>>> > As the machine boots to media, after BIOS messages, and before any boot
>>> > messages, press Escape repeatedly.  This will prevent GRUB from loading 
>>> > and
>>> > provide the old style prompts.  The keyboard will work here.
>>> >
>>> > Also, someone suggested recently that holding down the left shift key will
>>> > have the same effect.  I have not tested this yet.
>>> >
>>> > In any case, the workaround is to prevent GRUB from loading.
>>>
>>> Phil,
>>>
>>> Thanks. I've been able to prevent GRUB from loading and get to a
>>> "boot:" prompt. And the keyboard is still working at that point.
>>>
>>> My problem now, is that I have no idea what to type at that prompt.
>>>
>> I would guess either hit return for default X oriented install ot
>> upgrade  or type text for text install or upgrade.
>
> Thanks for the suggestion. I finally got time to try it out.
>
> All t hat happened is that the CD drive spun for a while. Nothing else 
> happened.
>
> I really wanted it to be that simple too :-(
>
> Any other suggestions,
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave...

Have you looked into installing with UNetbootin:
http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/

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Re: Download manager hangs

2008-06-13 Thread Kam Leo
2008/6/13 John Selmys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On 06/13/2008 01:57 PM, Mike Burger wrote:
>
> Twice tonight I tried to download the F9 ISO. First the DVD, then
> the live CD. In both cases the download manager hung up at the very end.
> I had no option but to cancel the download. The DVD download wasted 5
> hours and the CD download wasted another hour. I'm already using F9 on
> an AMD X2. I downloaded F9 ISO when my system was running F8. I upgraded
> to F9 and then gave away my DVD/CD. Now I wanted to get new copies for
> myself. I do my downloads with Seamonkey. It seems like the last chunk
> of the ISO just can't be delivered. I guess I'll have to use bittorrent
> or perhaps command-line ftp. I wonder if Seamonkey's download manager is
> broken?
>
>
> Silly question for you...do you not still have the ISO you had previously
> downloaded?
>
>
>
> The install of F9 went so smooth that I wanted my friend to try it out. I
> gave my DVD to him (yes I should have saved a copy but too late now). Anyway
> I want to install on a laptop my company gave me and I need another DVD. I
> guess I could get the original back but this download problem has me
> wondering what's going on. In fact I'm even having problems with wget. I'm
> baffled. I started wget this morning and expected it to be done upon my
> return from work. Well I'm back now and this is what I see:
>
>  wget -c
> http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/9/Fedora/x86_64/iso/Fedora-9-x86_64-DVD.iso
> --2008-06-13 07:01:30--
> http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/9/Fedora/x86_64/iso/Fedora-9-x86_64-DVD.iso
> Resolving download.fedoraproject.org... 66.35.62.162, 209.132.176.122
> Connecting to download.fedoraproject.org|66.35.62.162|:80... connected.
> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found
> Location:
> http://www.muug.mb.ca/pub/fedora/linux/releases/9/Fedora/x86_64/iso/Fedora-9-x86_64-DVD.iso
> [following]
> --2008-06-13 07:01:31--
> http://www.muug.mb.ca/pub/fedora/linux/releases/9/Fedora/x86_64/iso/Fedora-9-x86_64-DVD.iso
> Resolving www.muug.mb.ca... 130.179.31.46
> Connecting to www.muug.mb.ca|130.179.31.46|:80... connected.
> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved Permanently
> Location:
> ftp://ftp.muug.mb.ca/pub/fedora/linux/releases/9/Fedora/x86_64/iso/Fedora-9-x86_64-DVD.iso
> [following]
> --2008-06-13 07:01:31--
> ftp://ftp.muug.mb.ca/pub/fedora/linux/releases/9/Fedora/x86_64/iso/Fedora-9-x86_64-DVD.iso
>=> `Fedora-9-x86_64-DVD.iso'
> Resolving ftp.muug.mb.ca... 130.179.31.46
> Connecting to ftp.muug.mb.ca|130.179.31.46|:21... connected.
> Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
> ==> SYST ... done.==> PWD ... done.
> ==> TYPE I ... done.  ==> CWD /pub/fedora/linux/releases/9/Fedora/x86_64/iso
> ... done.
> ==> SIZE Fedora-9-x86_64-DVD.iso ... 4163696640
> ==> PASV ... done.==> RETR Fedora-9-x86_64-DVD.iso ... done.
> Length: 4163696640 (3.9G)
>
> 99% [===> ] 4,163,696,376 --.-K/s   in 4h
> 52m
>
> 2008-06-13 11:54:20 (231 KB/s) - Data connection: Connection timed out;
> Control connection closed.
> Retrying.
>
> --2008-06-13 12:09:21--
> ftp://ftp.muug.mb.ca/pub/fedora/linux/releases/9/Fedora/x86_64/iso/Fedora-9-x86_64-DVD.iso
>   (try: 2) => `Fedora-9-x86_64-DVD.iso'
> Connecting to ftp.muug.mb.ca|130.179.31.46|:21... connected.
> Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
> ==> SYST ... done.==> PWD ... done.
> ==> TYPE I ... done.  ==> CWD /pub/fedora/linux/releases/9/Fedora/x86_64/iso
> ... done.
> ==> SIZE Fedora-9-x86_64-DVD.iso ... 4163696640
> ==> PASV ... done.==> REST 4163696376 ...
> REST failed, starting from scratch.
>
> ==> RETR Fedora-9-x86_64-DVD.iso ... done.
> Length: 4163696640 (3.9G), 264 (264) remaining
>
> 69% [>
>
>  Looks like I have the same problem with wget as I have with Seamonkey
> download manager. The download gets stuck at the end and then starts over. I
> have no clue what's going on.
>
> John

Go to http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/9/x86_64/ and
choose another mirror.

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Re: Download manager hangs

2008-06-13 Thread Kam Leo
2008/6/13 John Selmys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On 06/13/2008 08:55 PM, Kam Leo wrote:
>
> 2008/6/13 John Selmys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>
> On 06/13/2008 01:57 PM, Mike Burger wrote:
>
> Twice tonight I tried to download the F9 ISO. First the DVD, then
> the live CD. In both cases the download manager hung up at the very end.
> I had no option but to cancel the download. The DVD download wasted 5
> hours and the CD download wasted another hour. I'm already using F9 on
> an AMD X2. I downloaded F9 ISO when my system was running F8. I upgraded
> to F9 and then gave away my DVD/CD. Now I wanted to get new copies for
> myself. I do my downloads with Seamonkey. It seems like the last chunk
> of the ISO just can't be delivered. I guess I'll have to use bittorrent
> or perhaps command-line ftp. I wonder if Seamonkey's download manager is
> broken?
>
>
> Silly question for you...do you not still have the ISO you had previously
> downloaded?
>
>
>
> The install of F9 went so smooth that I wanted my friend to try it out. I
> gave my DVD to him (yes I should have saved a copy but too late now). Anyway
> I want to install on a laptop my company gave me and I need another DVD. I
> guess I could get the original back but this download problem has me
> wondering what's going on. In fact I'm even having problems with wget. I'm
> baffled. I started wget this morning and expected it to be done upon my
> return from work. Well I'm back now and this is what I see:
>
>  wget -c
> http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/9/Fedora/x86_64/iso/Fedora-9-x86_64-DVD.iso
> --2008-06-13 07:01:30--
> http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/9/Fedora/x86_64/iso/Fedora-9-x86_64-DVD.iso
> Resolving download.fedoraproject.org... 66.35.62.162, 209.132.176.122
> Connecting to download.fedoraproject.org|66.35.62.162|:80... connected.
> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found
> Location:
> http://www.muug.mb.ca/pub/fedora/linux/releases/9/Fedora/x86_64/iso/Fedora-9-x86_64-DVD.iso
> [following]
> --2008-06-13 07:01:31--
> http://www.muug.mb.ca/pub/fedora/linux/releases/9/Fedora/x86_64/iso/Fedora-9-x86_64-DVD.iso
> Resolving www.muug.mb.ca... 130.179.31.46
> Connecting to www.muug.mb.ca|130.179.31.46|:80... connected.
> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved Permanently
> Location:
> ftp://ftp.muug.mb.ca/pub/fedora/linux/releases/9/Fedora/x86_64/iso/Fedora-9-x86_64-DVD.iso
> [following]
> --2008-06-13 07:01:31--
> ftp://ftp.muug.mb.ca/pub/fedora/linux/releases/9/Fedora/x86_64/iso/Fedora-9-x86_64-DVD.iso
>=> `Fedora-9-x86_64-DVD.iso'
> Resolving ftp.muug.mb.ca... 130.179.31.46
> Connecting to ftp.muug.mb.ca|130.179.31.46|:21... connected.
> Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
> ==> SYST ... done.==> PWD ... done.
> ==> TYPE I ... done.  ==> CWD /pub/fedora/linux/releases/9/Fedora/x86_64/iso
> ... done.
> ==> SIZE Fedora-9-x86_64-DVD.iso ... 4163696640
> ==> PASV ... done.==> RETR Fedora-9-x86_64-DVD.iso ... done.
> Length: 4163696640 (3.9G)
>
> 99% [===> ] 4,163,696,376 --.-K/s   in 4h
> 52m
>
> 2008-06-13 11:54:20 (231 KB/s) - Data connection: Connection timed out;
> Control connection closed.
> Retrying.
>
> --2008-06-13 12:09:21--
> ftp://ftp.muug.mb.ca/pub/fedora/linux/releases/9/Fedora/x86_64/iso/Fedora-9-x86_64-DVD.iso
>   (try: 2) => `Fedora-9-x86_64-DVD.iso'
> Connecting to ftp.muug.mb.ca|130.179.31.46|:21... connected.
> Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
> ==> SYST ... done.==> PWD ... done.
> ==> TYPE I ... done.  ==> CWD /pub/fedora/linux/releases/9/Fedora/x86_64/iso
> ... done.
> ==> SIZE Fedora-9-x86_64-DVD.iso ... 4163696640
> ==> PASV ... done.==> REST 4163696376 ...
> REST failed, starting from scratch.
>
> ==> RETR Fedora-9-x86_64-DVD.iso ... done.
> Length: 4163696640 (3.9G), 264 (264) remaining
>
> 69% [>
>
>  Looks like I have the same problem with wget as I have with Seamonkey
> download manager. The download gets stuck at the end and then starts over. I
> have no clue what's going on.
>
> John
>
>
> Go to http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/9/x86_64/ and
> choose another mirror.
>
>
>
> YES, I chose another mirror and it worked perfectly. Both wget and seamonkey
> download manager.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> John

You're welcome.

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Re: Where are the Fedora 9 SHA1SUMs?

2008-06-24 Thread Kam Leo
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 7:12 AM, Dave Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Fedora Gurus,
>
> I've just downloaded Fedora 9 (DVD, i386) and found its
> sha1sum BUT I can't locate the target SHA1SUM file on the fedoraproject.org
> site.
>
> It is referred to there so it must be there but I can't find it
>
> Any comments?
>
> Dave

Too many ways to obtain the ISO so they winged it:
http://fedoraproject.org/en/verify

Short version -- Obtain ISO via torrent (also Jigdo) no need to check.
HTTP and FTP get SHA1SUM from same directory as .iso.

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Re: Where are the Fedora 9 SHA1SUMs?

2008-06-24 Thread Kam Leo
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:26 AM, Kam Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 7:12 AM, Dave Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hello Fedora Gurus,
>>
>> I've just downloaded Fedora 9 (DVD, i386) and found its
>> sha1sum BUT I can't locate the target SHA1SUM file on the fedoraproject.org
>> site.
>>
>> It is referred to there so it must be there but I can't find it
>>
>> Any comments?
>>
>> Dave
>
> Too many ways to obtain the ISO so they winged it:
> http://fedoraproject.org/en/verify
>
> Short version -- Obtain ISO via torrent (also Jigdo) no need to check.
> HTTP and FTP get SHA1SUM from same directory as .iso.
>

It's not obvious, but, the links on the web page are to SHA1SUM for
the respective iso image.

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Re: Grub: What grub options are available to log it's own messages?

2008-07-09 Thread Kam Leo
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Dan Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The reason I ask, is because at the very end, there is a
> traceback failure, impossible to read/catch and it does
> not appear in the log files ie /var/log/messages. So, is
> there a grub option to enable it's own logging so that
> I can capture the failure traceback I am seeking?
>
> I have done this before but I cannot find the grub option
> to do it!
>
> Thanks!
> Dan
>

Google Search is your friend: Try
http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-legacy-support.en.html or
http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html

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Re: Updates not getting installed.

2008-08-10 Thread Kam Leo
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-08-10 at 11:31 +0530, Sandesh Karanth wrote:
>> Hi There,
>>
>> I've been using Fedora 9 since it got released.
>>
>> Its great to use it but since 2 weeks, I'm not able to install the
>> updates available. IT shows me that there are new updates and I say
>> install them, it goes into a busy loop searching for the updates If i
>> click the icon on the taskbar, it shows a dialog as i've attached with
>> this mail and does nothing other than that.
>>
>> Please tell me how to go about this.
> 
> It might be more useful to cancel that operation and do a 'yum update'
> from a root shell command line because if there is something wrong, it
> will let you know in the shell.
>
> Craig

No need to cancel. First time updates will take a while. If you
installed a wide range of software the number can easily exceed one
hundred.

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Re: Re: VMware Server 1.06 on Fedora 8 x86_64

2008-08-15 Thread Kam Leo
2008/8/15 Gene Poole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Since we couldn't get past the text issues going from Linux to Windows, here
> is the complete and corrected message list when attempting to install VMware
> Server 1.06 onto a running Fedora 8 x86_64 machine:
>
>
> Configuring fallback GTK+ 2.4 libraries.
>
> In which directory do you want to install the mime type icons?
> [/usr/share/icons]
>
> What directory contains your desktop menu entry files? These files have a
> .desktop file extension. [/usr/share/applications]
>
> In which directory do you want to install the application's icon?
> [/usr/share/pixmaps]
>
> Trying to find a suitable vmmon module for your running kernel.
>
> None of the pre-built vmmon modules for VMware Server is suitable for your
> running kernel.  Do you want this program to try to build the vmmon module
> for
> your system (you need to have a C compiler installed on your system)? [yes]
>
> Using compiler "/usr/bin/gcc". Use environment variable CC to override.
>
> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your
> running
> kernel? [/lib/modules/2.6.25.11-60.fc8/build/include]
>
> Extracting the sources of the vmmon module.
>
> Building the vmmon module.
>
> Using 2.6.x kernel build system.
> make: Entering directory `/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only'
> make -C /lib/modules/2.6.25.11-60.fc8/build/include/.. SUBDIRS=$PWD
> SRCROOT=$PWD/. modules
> make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.25.11-60.fc8-x86_64'
>   CC [M]  /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.o
>   CC [M]  /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/hostif.o
>   CC [M]  /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/common/comport.o
>   CC [M]  /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/common/cpuid.o
>   CC [M]  /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/common/hash.o
>   CC [M]  /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/common/memtrack.o
>   CC [M]  /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/common/phystrack.o
>   CC [M]  /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/common/task.o
>   CC [M]  /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/common/vmciContext.o
>   CC [M]  /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/common/vmciDatagram.o
>   CC [M]  /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/common/vmciDriver.o
>   CC [M]  /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/common/vmciDs.o
>   CC [M]  /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/common/vmciGroup.o
>   CC [M]  /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/common/vmciHashtable.o
>   CC [M]  /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/common/vmciProcess.o
>   CC [M]  /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/common/vmciResource.o
>   CC [M]  /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/common/vmciSharedMem.o
>   CC [M]  /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/common/vmx86.o
>   CC [M]  /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/vmcore/moduleloop.o
>   LD [M]  /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/vmmon.o
>   Building modules, stage 2.
>   MODPOST 1 modules
>   CC  /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/vmmon.mod.o
>   LD [M]  /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/vmmon.ko
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.25.11-60.fc8-x86_64'
> cp -f vmmon.ko ./../vmmon.o
> make: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only'
> The module loads perfectly in the running kernel.
>
> Do you want networking for your virtual machines? (yes/no/help) [yes]
>
> Configuring a bridged network for vmnet0.
>
> Your computer has multiple ethernet network interfaces available: eth0,
> eth1.
> Which one do you want to bridge to vmnet0? [eth0] eth1
>
> The following bridged networks have been defined:
>
> . vmnet0 is bridged to eth1
>
> Do you wish to configure another bridged network? (yes/no) [no]
>
> Do you want to be able to use NAT networking in your virtual machines?
> (yes/no) [yes]
>
> Configuring a NAT network for vmnet8.
>
> Do you want this program to probe for an unused private subnet?
> (yes/no/help) [yes]
>
> Probing for an unused private subnet (this can take some time)...
>
> The subnet 192.168.104.0/255.255.255.0 appears to be unused.
>
> The following NAT networks have been defined:
>
> . vmnet8 is a NAT network on private subnet 192.168.104.0.
>
> Do you wish to configure another NAT network? (yes/no) [no]
>
> Do you want to be able to use host-only networking in your virtual machines?
> [yes]
>
> Configuring a host-only network for vmnet1.
>
> Do you want this program to probe for an unused private subnet?
> (yes/no/help) [yes]
>
> Probing for an unused private subnet (this can take some time)...
>
> The subnet 172.16.15.0/255.255.255.0 appears to be unused.
>
> The following host-only networks have been defined:
>
> . vmnet1 is a host-only network on private subnet 172.16.15.0.
>
> Do you wish to configure another host-only network? (yes/no) [no]
>
> Extracting the sources of the vmnet module.
>
> Building the vmnet module.
>
> Using 2.6.x kernel build system.
> make: Entering directory `/tmp/vmware-config0/vmnet-only'
> make -C /lib/modules/2.6.25.11-60.fc8/build/include/.. SUBDIRS=$PWD
> SRCROOT=$PWD/. modules
> make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernels/2.6.25.11-60.fc8-x86_64'
>   CC [M]  /tmp/vmware-config0/vmnet-only/driver.o
>   CC [M]  /tmp/vmware-

Re: corrupted ISOs, or wrong SHA1SUMs ??

2008-08-23 Thread Kam Leo
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:46 PM, Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-08-22 at 22:11 -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:
>> Check the length of your downloaded ISO vs. what it _should_ be.  Some
>> http downloads will screw up with a >2GB file...
>
> Likewise with trying to save such big files on some file systems, such
> as the *old* DOS/Windows one.
>

BitTorrent clients can handle files in excess of 2 GB.  Best to save
to an NTFS formatted drive. If a torrent is too slow for you use
wget.exe (version 1.10.2 or greater) from the command line. Use it
with the -c option to ensure a complete download.

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Re: corrupted ISOs, or wrong SHA1SUMs ??

2008-08-24 Thread Kam Leo
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 11:51 PM, Michael Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2008/8/24 Kam Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:46 PM, Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2008-08-22 at 22:11 -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:
>>>> Check the length of your downloaded ISO vs. what it _should_ be.  Some
>>>> http downloads will screw up with a >2GB file...
>>>
>>> Likewise with trying to save such big files on some file systems, such
>>> as the *old* DOS/Windows one.
>>>
>>
>> BitTorrent clients can handle files in excess of 2 GB.  Best to save
>> to an NTFS formatted drive. If a torrent is too slow for you use
>> wget.exe (version 1.10.2 or greater) from the command line. Use it
>> with the -c option to ensure a complete download.
>
> Fat32 drives have a file size limit of 4 GB.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Michael Jenkins

1)  The maximum file size for FAT32 is actually one byte less than 4
GB.  A single layer DVD can store 4.7 GB.

2)  I was addressing the limitation of the file downloading
application/plugin in older browsers and, for that matter, older
versions of wget.

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Re: HowTo Change the Login Window?

2008-09-02 Thread Kam Leo
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Marc Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I would like to know how to access and/or change the "login window" for
> Fedora 9.  I was told it's changed dramatically; we're not using GDM or it's
> been split, blah blah blah.  I don't know what any of that means, I'm a
> newb.  I'd like to install a theme I found on Gnome-Look.org, but so far all
> the sites the folks in the chat room showed me didn't really say how to make
> the changes, or I'm just now reading it right:
>
> http://live.gnome.org/GDM/2.22/Configuration
> http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f9/en_US/sn-Desktop.html#sn-GNOMEDisplayManager
>
> Thanks for any clarrification.
>
> ---
> Marc F.

"F9 Login theme" was discussed in May. You can read it at
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2008-May/msg02707.html to
see if it addresses your situation. If not, get back to us.

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Re: Regarding Fedora core 7

2008-09-06 Thread Kam Leo
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 5:06 AM, winiston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Respected Sir/Madam,
>
> My name is P.Winiston. I am working in Futura Automation Pvt Ltd as a R&D
> Engineer.
>
> Technical problem:
>
> We are using Intel 852GME chipset with 6.4" Display.
>
> After installing the Fedora core 7, it support 800x600 resolution.But it is
> not supporting for 640x480 resolution. (ex : display gets banned)
>
> If i install Redhat Linux 5.0 ,it support for both 800x600 and 640x480
> resolution.
>
> I want to use Fedora core7 with 640x480 resolution only.
>
> Can you provide the VGA driver for Fedora core 7?
>
> How to make it works?
>
> We are ready to pay money for your service.
>
> I would be very thankful if you do my needy.
>
>
>
> With Best Regards,
> Winiston.P
> Futura Automation Pvt Ltd.
>

Have you tried using just the VESA driver or a lower color depth?

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Re: Yum Error

2008-09-10 Thread Kam Leo
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 13:11 -0400, Jim wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> FC9.  KDE-4.1.0
>>>
>>> Using Yumex, Clean All ,  I would like to download and install KDE-4.1.1
>>> from Rawhide into FC9, but when I  do a refresh in  Rawhide and try to
>>>  install KDE-4.1.1 I get a Error Message  ;
>>>
>>
>> Rawhide is for F10.
>>
>> poc
>>
>>
>
> I know that.
> But there is no reason why KDE-4.1.1 won't run in FC9.
>

Have you applied the "New Key" and repository updates for yum? They'
should be available on the mirrors.

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Re: Yum Error

2008-09-10 Thread Kam Leo
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kam Leo wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 13:11 -0400, Jim wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> FC9.  KDE-4.1.0
>>>>>
>>>>> Using Yumex, Clean All ,  I would like to download and install
>>>>> KDE-4.1.1
>>>>> from Rawhide into FC9, but when I  do a refresh in  Rawhide and try to
>>>>>  install KDE-4.1.1 I get a Error Message  ;
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rawhide is for F10.
>>>>
>>>> poc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I know that.
>>> But there is no reason why KDE-4.1.1 won't run in FC9.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Have you applied the "New Key" and repository updates for yum? They'
>> should be available on the mirrors.
>>
>>
>
> Are these keys in the FC9 mirrors or F10 mirrors ?

Just know about F8 & F9 keys being released today with latest updates.
Don't know about F10.

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Re: what if I reinstall?

2008-09-12 Thread Kam Leo
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 18:43 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
>> Just curious about this with respect to the repo changes
>> (and from what I hear more changes yet to come).
>>
>> Just before the repo disaster, I had to reinstall because
>> my disk died.
>>
>> With the original DVD images still pointing to old repos,
>> what happens if someone has to reinstall in a few weeks
>> after all the planned repo changes are complete?
>>
>> Does it "just work", or will they need some manual intervention
>> to get updates functioning on a system installed from
>> original DVDs?
>>
>> Just curious - I'm hoping not to need to know :-).
> 
> you need to follow the instructions to obtain any updates (and many of
> the updates were sorely needed).
>
> Craig

Why all these uncertainty questions? Have either of you checked any of
the F8 and F9 updates repositories? There is only one rpm in F8
updates and a hand full in F9 updates. When you do an update you're
going to get a new fedora-release and/or PackageKit update. After the
update yum will be pointed toward the newkey mirrors.

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Re: what if I reinstall?

2008-09-13 Thread Kam Leo
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 11:01 PM, François Patte
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Le 13.09.2008 01:08, Kam Leo a écrit :
>> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 18:43 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
>>>> Just curious about this with respect to the repo changes
>>>> (and from what I hear more changes yet to come).
>>>>
>>>> Just before the repo disaster, I had to reinstall because
>>>> my disk died.
>>>>
>>>> With the original DVD images still pointing to old repos,
>>>> what happens if someone has to reinstall in a few weeks
>>>> after all the planned repo changes are complete?
>>>>
>>>> Does it "just work", or will they need some manual intervention
>>>> to get updates functioning on a system installed from
>>>> original DVDs?
>>>>
>>>> Just curious - I'm hoping not to need to know :-).
>>> 
>>> you need to follow the instructions to obtain any updates (and many of
>>> the updates were sorely needed).
>>>
>>> Craig
>>
>> Why all these uncertainty questions? Have either of you checked any of
>> the F8 and F9 updates repositories? There is only one rpm in F8
>> updates
>
> Quite strange: up to yesterday, asking "yum update" on my f8 system gave
> almost 1GB updates (I don't remember how many).
>
> Today, the same command wants to install tetex-xdvi 3.0-41.fc8 which is
> supposed to replace xdvik.x86_64 22.84.13-17.fc9 (?!!) I don't
> understand why for I replaced tetex by texlive as soon as this was
> possible under f8.
>
> The only package to update today is: fedora-release
>
>
> Is there still some mess in the repositories?
>
> - --
> François Patte

That is a possibility. Perhaps your updates mirror was out of sync.
Have you installed fedora-release? It should point your update mirrors
to the updates-newkey repositories.

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Re: what if I reinstall?

2008-09-13 Thread Kam Leo
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 4:59 AM, Kam Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 11:01 PM, François Patte
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> Le 13.09.2008 01:08, Kam Leo a écrit :
>>> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 2008-09-12 at 18:43 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
>>>>> Just curious about this with respect to the repo changes
>>>>> (and from what I hear more changes yet to come).
>>>>>
>>>>> Just before the repo disaster, I had to reinstall because
>>>>> my disk died.
>>>>>
>>>>> With the original DVD images still pointing to old repos,
>>>>> what happens if someone has to reinstall in a few weeks
>>>>> after all the planned repo changes are complete?
>>>>>
>>>>> Does it "just work", or will they need some manual intervention
>>>>> to get updates functioning on a system installed from
>>>>> original DVDs?
>>>>>
>>>>> Just curious - I'm hoping not to need to know :-).
>>>> 
>>>> you need to follow the instructions to obtain any updates (and many of
>>>> the updates were sorely needed).
>>>>
>>>> Craig
>>>
>>> Why all these uncertainty questions? Have either of you checked any of
>>> the F8 and F9 updates repositories? There is only one rpm in F8
>>> updates
>>
>> Quite strange: up to yesterday, asking "yum update" on my f8 system gave
>> almost 1GB updates (I don't remember how many).
>>
>> Today, the same command wants to install tetex-xdvi 3.0-41.fc8 which is
>> supposed to replace xdvik.x86_64 22.84.13-17.fc9 (?!!) I don't
>> understand why for I replaced tetex by texlive as soon as this was
>> possible under f8.
>>
>> The only package to update today is: fedora-release
>>
>>
>> Is there still some mess in the repositories?
>>
>> - --
>> François Patte
>
> That is a possibility. Perhaps your updates mirror was out of sync.
> Have you installed fedora-release? It should point your update mirrors

   ^

   |
Haven't had my coffee fix yet. Should be fedora-updates-newkey.repo file.

> to the updates-newkey repositories.
>

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Re: Mailing-list Gudelines. Yes or No

2008-09-13 Thread Kam Leo
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 5:52 AM, Todd Zullinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Frank,
>
> Frank Murphy wrote:
>> But like any organisation public\private wahtever, some guidelines
>> are necessary otherwise nothing gets done. In this case
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
> [...]
>> You are possible going to lose a number of seasoned user
>> troubleshooters, if mailing list guidelines continue to be pushed
>> back in peoples faces, for attempting to do the correct thing.
>
> I am not very fond of replying to any message just to point out that
> the list guidelines are not being followed.  I tend to either ignore
> the message entirely or reply with some amount of help for the
> original poster and add a note that the list guidelines should be
> followed.  Truly egregious violations of the guidelines should be
> taken up with the list administrators directly to avoid cluttering the
> list, IMO.
>
>> Maybe once and for all decide does the list need guidelines, Yes or
>> No?
>
> As you said at the start of your message, some guidelines are
> necessary in any group.  I agree with that.  The guidelines allow us
> to have some common expectations for the list.  Without some basic
> guidelines and norms, the list would likely turn into a mish-mash of
> off-topic and/or terribly formatted gibberish.  I have no doubt that
> if, for example, everone began posting to the list in HTML, top
> posted, didn't trim their quotes, and hijacked threads, we would lose
> far more valuable list contributors that we will by having some
> reasonable guidelines.
>
> So I think the answer to your question is a very resounding "Yes, the
> list guidelines are needed."
>
> Whether the guidelines need to be adjusted or whether they are being
> "enforced" improperly (either too strictly or not strictly enough) is
> a separate question.  It's also a question that should be taken up
> directly with the list administrators and not on the list, IMO.
> Having a potentially never-ending thread debating all of the list
> guidelines is not something I'd look forward to in my fedora-list
> mailbox. :)
>
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The OP found the guidelines at fedoraproject.org. The guidelines or a
link should be posted on the list sign-up page. A condition of
membership should be the reading of the guidelines. Perhaps the OP can
file an RFE at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/.

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Re: Mailing-list Gudelines. Yes or No

2008-09-13 Thread Kam Leo
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 7:08 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kam Leo wrote:
>>
>> The OP found the guidelines at fedoraproject.org. The guidelines or a
>> link should be posted on the list sign-up page. A condition of
>> membership should be the reading of the guidelines. Perhaps the OP can
>> file an RFE at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/.
>>
> A good place for it would be in the welcome message you are sent
> when you join the list. Maybe in the monthly reminder the list
> manager sends out as well.
>
> Mikkel
>

+2

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Re: Mailing-list Gudelines. Yes or No

2008-09-13 Thread Kam Leo
On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 7:20 AM, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 10:08 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>> Kam Leo wrote:
>> >
>> > The OP found the guidelines at fedoraproject.org. The guidelines or a
>> > link should be posted on the list sign-up page. A condition of
>> > membership should be the reading of the guidelines. Perhaps the OP can
>> > file an RFE at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/.
>> >
>> A good place for it would be in the welcome message you are sent
>> when you join the list. Maybe in the monthly reminder the list
>> manager sends out as well.
> 
> the link to the 'guidelines' are in the signature of every message.
>
> Craig

LOL. Check the archives for all the unsubscribe messages. Do people
actually read the appendages?  Lots of people ignore the flotsam after
the signature.

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Re: (DOS?) was Re: i386.newkey f8 vanished!

2008-09-16 Thread Kam Leo
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 5:23 AM, Bob Marcan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:54:27 +0900
> Joel Rees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Sep 16, 2008, at 4:44 PM, Andrea Mastellone wrote:
>>
>> > Mike wrote:
>> >> It seems that the directory:
>> >> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/updates/8/
>> >> i386.newkey
>> >> has disappeared from the main download server so yum update is not
>> >> working today.
>> >
>> > Same for F9 updates-testing
>> >
>> > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/updates/testing/
>> > 9/i386.newkey
>>
>> bugzilla is inaccessible, was inaccessible last night. I can get one
>> page, then everything is errors.
>>
>> I'm guessing RedHat is getting DOSsed. Any of you guys good at
>> countermeasures?
>>
>
> Few hours ago there was:
>  updates/8/i386.newkey
>  updates/8/i386.newkey.newkey
>
> Now is vanished both.
>
> Regards, Bob

Checked two other mirrors and found that updates/8/i386 and
updates/8/i386.newkey are gone. However, the F9 updates/9/i386 and
updates/9/i386.newkey are still there.

More likely, some one goofed up and removed both directories at Fedora
and the mirrors synced up to match.

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Re: (DOS?) was Re: i386.newkey f8 vanished!

2008-09-16 Thread Kam Leo
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 16 September 2008, Joel Rees wrote:
>>On Sep 16, 2008, at 4:44 PM, Andrea Mastellone wrote:
>>> Mike wrote:
 It seems that the directory:
 http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/updates/8/
 i386.newkey
 has disappeared from the main download server so yum update is not
 working today.
>>>
>>> Same for F9 updates-testing
>>>
>>> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/updates/testing/
>>> 9/i386.newkey
>>
>>bugzilla is inaccessible, was inaccessible last night. I can get one
>>page, then everything is errors.
>>
> The updates repo has gone away, remove it from your yum.repos.d.

Gene, check again. updates/8/i386 and updates/8/i386.newkey are back
on line. Also, there is no way that the update/8/i386 will disappear
until F8 EOL. The old repository is required to point new installs to
the newkey repos.


>>I'm guessing RedHat is getting DOSsed. Any of you guys good at
>>countermeasures?
>
>
>
> --
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Re: couldn't change resolution in Vmware

2008-09-17 Thread Kam Leo
2008/5/23 Mustafa Qasim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 4:36 AM, Kam Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> 2008/5/21 Mustafa Qasim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> > Hello!
>> >I've just installed F9 in my Vmware workstation 6 but I couldn't
>> > change my defualt 800x600 resolution to 1024x768. Is  VMware causing this
>> > problem? Any Idea.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Regards,
>> > Mustafa Qasim
>>
>> Have you installed vmware-tools?
>>
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>
> Yep! at the same time F8 is working fine.
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>
> Registered Linux User# 441709.

After much delay I finally got around to fixing VMware issues on my F9
client. I'm using VMware Workstation 5.5.8. I discovered that
xorg.conf file for the F9 client was missing the "Monitor" section.
After copying that section from my F8 virtual client the display
resolution now goes beyond 800x600.

Side note:  Using system-config-display or
System->Administration->Display from Gnome Hardware
selection/configuration appears to be broken. I'm not able to select
from either of the two options: CRT or LCD.  Driver is
xorg-x11-drv-vmware-10.16.0-1.fc9.i386.

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Re: 32bit vs 64bit

2008-09-17 Thread Kam Leo
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bingo wrote:
>>
>> Read this for a comparison in performance for 32 bit, and 64 bit linux:
>> http://bingouv.blogspot.com/2008/08/desktop-linux-performance-comparison32.html
>> .
>>
>> To summarize, you will notice the difference between 32 bit and 64 bit for
>> CPU intensive tasks. But it won't change the world. This comparison is based
>> on Fedora-9.
>>
> One thing that most people undervalue is that almost none of these tests are
> actually done on 32 bit and 64 bit processors, they are widely done on the
> same processor (to keep thing the same) and the 32 bit test is run on a 64
> bit CPU in 32 bit mode.
>
> This is important because the big difference between 8 and 16 bit, or 16 and
> 32 bit was the longer registers and wider path to memory. And so the tests
> were run on different CPUs. Running the test on the same CPU in two modes
> gives far less improvement, and most recent tests measure only the
> difference between modes.
>
> Since the three advantages of 64 bit operation are lower overhead with large
> memory, ability to run larger user images, and a few more 64 bit registers,
> it's not surprising that the benefits are not huge, and that many systems
> will just not see any measurable difference, due to a lack of large
> processes or memory. The overhead of PAE operation is generally hard to find
> in the noise.
>
> Obviously there are loads which do show a larger difference, and some of
> those loads are "real loads" rather than benchmarks and test cases, but for
> most configurations and loads it can be "measured but not felt."
>
> Note: this is just to remind people of the factors involved, not to agree or
> disagree with anyone.
>
> --
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>

I believe the discussion is i386 (32-bit) vs. x64 (64-bit extended
instruction mode for x86 processors). Dual booting the i386 and x64
versions of the OS on the same hardware should make a level playing
field.

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Re: Synaptic problem. MD5 sum mismatch with all installs

2008-09-21 Thread Kam Leo
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Konstantin Svist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nigel Henry wrote:
>> Since the Fedora servers were compromised, I've been having problems with
>> apt-get, and synaptic. I think I've got the apt-get problems resolved, but
>> trying to install a package using synaptic results in problems. The package
>> will download ok, but I get the following post download.
>>
>> Preparing
>>
>> While Installing package phasex-0.11.1-5.fc9:
>>
>> error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/bin/phasex;48d6bc 19:
>> cpio: MD5 sum mismatch.
>>
>> If I were to do an apt-get install phasex, it would install ok, but for some
>> reason synaptic is giving these MD5 sum mismatch errors, and won't install
>> the package. this is only since the Fedora servers were compromised.
>>
>> I've never had any problems with apt-get, and synaptic before, and have been
>> using them since Fedora Core 1.
>>
>> As a last resort I did an apt-get remove synaptic, followed by a yum remove
>> apt, then deleted the remaining apt directories (/var/cache/apt,
>> and /etc/apt).
>>
>> Now to re-install apt with yum install apt, and followed by apt-get install
>> synaptic. I still get the same MD5 sum mismatches when trying to install
>> phasex (as an example) with synaptic.
>>
>> Any suggestions as to how to deal with these MD5 sum mismatches that I'm
>> getting from synaptic?
>>
>> Prior to the Fedora servers being compromised, both apt-get, and synaptic 
>> were
>> working with no problems, but there seems to be a lot of stuff hitting the
>> fan at the moment when trying to use synaptic.
>>
>> Always gratefull for help when I'm really stuck with a problem I can't fix.
>>
>> Nigel.
>>
>>
>
> Fedora default update system is Yum, so I can see how they could've
> overlooked it.
> OTOH, I've seen this problem with yum once - the solution was to run
> "yum clean all" to clean the cache.
>
> HTH

Have you installed the "newkey" updates; i.e. run yum upgrade, and
install the new keys? After that did you update your apt repositories?
You need to do both.

The easiest thing for me was to just do another yum uprade to get the
latest updates for smart and apt-get from the .newkey repo.

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Re: Newbie Help With Fedora 9 installation

2008-09-22 Thread Kam Leo
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 12:25 PM, E.H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for replying Aldo and Armin.
>
> Yes i am downloading from a windows system. I was downloading to a logical
> drive with a FAT32 file system... I went through the documentation again..
> So i guess that must be the problem.
> Apparently downloading to an NTFS filesystem doesn't seem to have that
> problem.
> Will try that.
>
>  I just need a back up copy of the entire dvd anyway.
>  so i would have to download the file again.
> I 've burnt that corrupted file on 2 DVDs already :)
>
> Thanks for the help, guys.
>

The F9 DVD iso is less than 4 GB (3,496,758 KB) so it should fit on
your FAT32 partition. You used bittorrent for downloading so the odds
are that the downloaded image is fine. Before you waste a lot of time
and bandwidth on downloading another copy of the DVD ISO get
fastsum.exe ( http://www.fastsum.com/download/FastsumSetup-1.6.exe ),
md5sum.exe ( http://etree.org/md5com.html ) or other MD5 checking
software and verify that the checksum matches. Try a different brand
of media or use your existing DVD to perform a network install.

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Re: How To Make Yum Fetch ALL The Updates

2008-12-14 Thread Kam Leo
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 5:13 AM, Robert L Cochran
 wrote:
> I just installed Fedora 10 x86_64 on a machine and did a 'yum update' on
> it. I know kernel-2.6.27.7-134 is out there but yum didn't find it, and
> still insists there is no such kernel. It makes me think yum is using a
> mirror which isn't quite up-to-date. How do I make it find all the
> outstanding updates, download and install them?
>
> Thanks
>
> Bob Cochran

Here are several suggestions:

1. Edit /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo, disable the mirrorslist,
and enable the main fedora server.
2. Find a fast mirror that has the kernel you seek. Create a separate
repo file for it.
3. Use a combination of 1 and 2. (It does not hurt to have multiple
repositories enabled.)

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Re: Free (as in speech) flash alternative

2008-12-16 Thread Kam Leo
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Armin Moradi  wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Bill Davidsen  wrote:
>>
>> Armin Moradi wrote:
>>>
>>> The problem is simple.  I don't want to use Adobe flash and so I need a
>>> free alternative.
>>> I run F10 with KDE4.2 beta 2 (from kde-redhat repo) and it's x86_64 arch,
>>> if any of that helps.
>>>
>> Sure, you can run ogg-vorbis if you want. Please go read the technical
>> discussion on another list, it's not a Fedora issue it's a codec issue. O-V
>> is free (but see the legal groups on that, as well).
>>
>>> Also I would like to know if I can somehow get flash working in
>>> Konqueror.
>>
>> Wait... is this a case of you not wanting to run flash because it offends
>> your moral sense that it's not open source, or because you can't make it
>> work?
>>
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>>  "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
>> the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot
>>
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> I can make it work perfectly, but as you said, it offends my morals because
> it's not free!
>
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By using or consuming flash content you will be supporting the very
company that created the Flash standard, "non-free" players, and
associated content  creation tools. Don't use flash and you will not
be offended.

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Re: Apt-get really screwed up on F9

2008-12-16 Thread Kam Leo
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Nigel Henry
 wrote:
> Anyone using apt, and apt-get on F9?
>
> There were problems with synaptic on F9. I could remove packages, but not
> install packages. MD5 sum missmatch problem. I posted a bug report for this,
> and saw there was already another bug report for the same problem.
>
> As of the last day or so, I did an apt-get update, and got the following.
>
> [djm...@localhost djmons]$ ssh 192.168.0.196
> djm...@192.168.0.196's password:
> Last login: Sun Nov  2 20:24:44 2008 from 192.168.0.230
> -bash-3.2$ su
> Password:
> [r...@localhost djmons]# apt-get update
> Get:1 http://download.fedora.redhat.com fedora/linux/updates/9/i386.newkey/
> repomd.xml [2390B]
> Get:2 http://linuxdownload.adobe.com linux/i386 repomd.xml [951B]
> Get:3 http://rpm.livna.org 9/i386/ repomd.xml [2142B]
> Get:4 http://download.fedora.redhat.com
> fedora/linux/releases/9/Everything/i386/os/ repomd.xml [2442B]
> Fetched 7925B in 2s (3489B/s)
> Hit http://download.fedora.redhat.com fedora/linux/updates/9/i386.newkey/
> primary.sqlite
> Hit http://download.fedora.redhat.com fedora/linux/updates/9/i386.newkey/
> filelists.sqlite
> Hit http://download.fedora.redhat.com
> fedora/linux/releases/9/Everything/i386/os/ primary.sqlite
> Hit http://download.fedora.redhat.com
> fedora/linux/releases/9/Everything/i386/os/ filelists.sqlite
> Hit http://linuxdownload.adobe.com linux/i386/ primary.xml
> Hit http://linuxdownload.adobe.com linux/i386/ filelists.xml
> Hit http://rpm.livna.org 9/i386/ primary.sqlite
> Hit http://rpm.livna.org 9/i386/ filelists.sqlite
> Hit http://rpm.livna.org 9/i386/ primary.sqlite
> Hit http://rpm.livna.org 9/i386/ filelists.sqlite
> apt-get: rpm/rpmindexfile.cc:645: std::string
> rpmRepomdIndex::IndexURI(std::string) const: Assertion `Res.size() > 0'
> failed.
> Aborted
> [r...@localhost djmons]#
>
> I've had to do a yum update to update F9, which went ok, but what the hell has
> gone wrong with apt, and apt-get?
>
> I have to say that I'm really annoyed with this, as I've been using apt since
> Fedora Core 1, with virtually no problems.
>
> As a side issue rpmfusion has just come on the scene, and where I could you
> apt with livna, and freshrpm's, but rpmfusion has no support for users of
> apt, but only Yum.
>
> I think it's about time to say goodbye to new versions of Fedora. I'm posting
> from FC2. No longer supported, but working like clockwork, apart froma small
> problem with my mouse from time to time.
>
> Fedora users ignore this post please. This is a complaint to the Fedora
> developers, who are living in their own little world. I thought that Linux
> was about choices, but it appears that Fedora devs have decided that Yum is
> the way to go, and Apt can go down the can, and be no longer supported.
>
> I couldn't care less what replies I get, as I'm seriously pissed off with
> Fedora 9 at the moment..
>
> Nigel.

I just installed apt-0.5.15lorg3.94-3.fc9.i386 with
fedora-package-config-apt-9-3.transitional.noarch and had no problem
using the application.

Have you run "apt-get clean" yet?

FYI, apt supports rpm, yum, and metadata repositories so you should be
able to add RPMFusion repositories to apt.  (Note: My only complaint
regarding RPMFusion is that the developers have yum blnders on when
they created their install rpm. They negilected to provide for smart
and apt.)

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Re: RPM Fusion needs help/RPM Fusion only is as good as its contributors make it (was: Re: Apt-get really screwed up on F9)

2008-12-16 Thread Kam Leo
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Thorsten Leemhuis
 wrote:
> On 17.12.2008 00:55, Kam Leo wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Nigel Henry
>>  wrote:
>>
>> (Note: My only complaint
>>
>> regarding RPMFusion is that the developers have yum blnders on when
>> they created their install rpm. They negilected to provide for smart
>> and apt.)
>
> RPM Fusion is a community project open to everyone. Hence if you want that
> project to do something you can either
>
> (1) complain and hope that the right people hear it and do something do fix
> it (which often, but not always works and sometimes takes a long time until
> you get the outcome)
>
> (2) do it yourself/help other with it
>
> For smart complaining and waiting might be enough, because people work on
> is; but if you help it might get realized faster:
> https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13
>
> Regarding apt: I guess none of the current RPM Fusion contributers use it,
> hence nobody worked on that. Are you interested? Then tell us what we need
> to do (or even better: provide patches) and help testing the outcome.
>
> Yes, I'm well aware that this mail sounds like "help or shut up" -- but it's
> really not meant like one. You are free to complain as much as you want and
> criticism is good (¹). Hence I don't want to stop or discourage you with
> this mail. I just want people to understand how things work -- e.g. it's
> basically "Only things that somebody is interested in get realized in
> community project; nearly nobody wants to do the boring things or things
> that are only useful for other people". This for apt afaics is the case:
> None of the RPM Fusion developers use it afaics, otherwise one would likely
> have worked on it. It's similar in many other areas of the project. There is
> a lot of room to improve the graphics drivers for example. And there are
> many "autoconfigure my Fedora for RPM Fusion, Livna, Flash, ..." apps out
> there -- it would be of benefit for everyone if one of the good ones gets
> into RPM Fusion as is used there by default.
>
> CU
> knurd
>
> (¹) there are a lot of things that could be better; but current RPM Fusion
> developers invest quite a lot of hours of work already and try their best;
> improving it requires more or more active people afaics, which are not easy
> to find

Here's a freebie: Borrow from Livna's install script. It already has
provisions for smart and apt.

P.S. I would have submitted the above as an RFE a week ago but the RPM
Fusion website layout overwhelmed me. It's too modern, too much low
contrast light blue on white, and required a login! Didn't find the
create account link until today.

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Re: RPM Fusion needs help/RPM Fusion only is as good as its contributors make it

2008-12-17 Thread Kam Leo
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 11:21 PM, Thorsten Leemhuis
 wrote:
> On 17.12.2008 07:53, Kam Leo wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Thorsten Leemhuis
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Here's a freebie: Borrow from Livna's install script. It already has
>> provisions for smart and apt.
>
> Guess what: it's not free -- packaging it/adding it to the existing packages
> can easily sum up to and hour or two of work (sometimes even more if you
> want to do them properly; see
> https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13 for example). Which brings
> me to the point I outlined earlier: "nearly nobody wants to do the boring
> things or things that are only useful for other people"
>
> Even worse: Seems the latest livna-release you get from
> http://rpm.livna.org/ these days also dropped support for smart and apt; I
> guess the livna people will readd it if somebody sends tested patches.
>

After I posted my message I rechecked, found the new main web page,
and the neutered release rpm. Bummer. I'm beginning to think this
merger is a shotgun wedding.

>> P.S. I would have submitted the above as an RFE a week ago but the RPM
>> Fusion website layout overwhelmed me.
>
> Wanna help? The wiki afaics really needs a lot of improvements. But each day
> only has 24 hours and I right now put other things higher on my todo list.
>
>> It's too modern, too much low
>> contrast light blue on white, and required a login!
>
> Without a login we'll get a target for spammers -- the livna wiki proved
> that :-/
>
>> Didn't find the create account link until today.
>
> I see a small window in the upper right of the page that offers to create an
> account or to log in. Isn't that showing up for you?
>

I thought  "Create Account" was the label for the Login dialog box.
Only when you mouse over it does it show up as a link.  You might try
putting "Create Account" next to UserPreferences or in a separate box
beneath Login.

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Re: Free (as in speech) flash alternative

2008-12-17 Thread Kam Leo
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 11:05 PM, Les Mikesell  wrote:
> Kam Leo wrote:
>>
>> > By using or consuming flash content you will be supporting the very
>> company that created the Flash standard, "non-free" players, and
>> associated content  creation tools. Don't use flash and you will not
>> be offended.
>
> And the alternative?  Silverlight/Moonlight?
>
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>   lesmikes...@gmail.com

If Silverlight/Moonlight offends you because you cannot find a
"non-free" player, do not use it.  The OP is morally opposed to using
"non-free".  No one is forcing him to use flash or whatever.

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Re: Apt-get really screwed up on F9

2008-12-17 Thread Kam Leo
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:42 AM, David Timms  wrote:
> Kam Leo wrote:
>>
>> regarding RPMFusion is that the developers have yum blnders on when
>> they created their install rpm. They negilected to provide for smart
>
> Kam, would you have a chance to test build and install the packages
> mentioned in:
> https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13#c12
>
> If you need help, I can lead you through it; it would be keen to get some
> feedback and confirmation of normal operation of the packages from a
> smart-aholic ;-) While I have been reviewing the package, I've never used
> smart nor smart-gui before so it might be that you find some issue that I
> didn't.
>
> Cheers, DaveT.

How soon do you need the test performed?  I will not get able to test
until after late Thursday or early Friday.

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Re: Hidden download performance problem with Fedora 6-10

2008-12-22 Thread Kam Leo
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:42:50 -0800
> Chuck  wrote:
>
>> Kevin wrote:
>>
>> > I wonder if you are running into
>> > "82573(V/L/E) TX Unit Hang Messages"
>> >
>> > see: http://downloadmirror.intel.com/9180/eng/README.txt
>> > look for "82573(V/L/E) TX Unit Hang Messages"
>> >
>> > perhaps the debian kernel doesn't hit the power management issue
>> > with that?
>> >
>> > Can you see if the test listed there shows you are affected?
>> >
>>
>> I just ran the F10 live CD on 3 other machines.  2 desktops and one
>> wireless laptop.  Fedora worked fine on them all.  One desktop
>> had a 3com adapter, the other had a Linksys NIC. One was a slower
>> machine ( 1GHz cpu, 90KBps xfer speeds ), the other fast ( 2.8GHz cpu,
>> 250KBps xfer speeds )
>>
>> It is now just this machine with the Intel and National Semi NICs.
>
> ok. Thats good...isolates things some. ;)
>
>> So I powered it down and switched the cables to the 3 enet ports; so
>> now the Nat Semi is the one going to the internet.
>> I Booted with F10 live CD and tried my wget experiment again.  Same
>> old problems: Data error, interrupted downloads.  This box with
>> Fedora just sucks.
>
> Interesting.
>
>> BTW, The Intel connection which is my usual internet connection does
>> have the "suspect byte" set in the "bad" state as per the test above.
>> but since the same thing happens with the Nat Semi NIC, this should
>> not be the cause.
>
> ok. The intel card isn't being used at all in that case?
> Did you remove it?
>
>> However, and I keep repeating this, OpenSUSE 11, Debian Lenny, Ubuntu
>> 8.04, PCLinuxOS 2007. Windows XP, Windows 2000 and ArchLinux all seem
>> to handle things just fine. Only flavors of Fedora have a problem
>> with this PC.
>
> Right. This points to some strange kernel bug or other issue with the
> Fedora kernel. Is there anything in dmesg when it's having the issues?
>
>> Is there anyone I can get in contact with to analyze this further?
>> Run some patched kernel? module?
>
> I would file a bug against the kernel and provide all the info you can
> from this thread. It might also be interesting to do a tcpdump of the
> failure and look at it against one from one of the non affected oses,
> but if thats needed the kernel folks should ask for it in the bug.
>
>> Thanks
>>
>> charlie
>
> kevin
>
Your Ubuntu download used mirrors.kernel.org. Try using
http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/releases/10/Live/i686/F10-i686-Live.iso
. Both Standford and USC mirrors get heavily loaded during initial
release of a distro.

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Re: GPU chips vs Video Cards

2008-12-23 Thread Kam Leo
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 2:54 AM, Dave Feustel  wrote:
> Will the use of GPU chips eliminate the need for video cards
> and/or eliminate the security vulnerabilities that the video
> cards introduce into operating systems?
>
> Thanks.

No. Similar to what is already on the market. You have integrated
video on many motherboards but still have a market for high
performance (gamers, etc.) video.

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Re: Catch-22 : wide monitor

2008-12-26 Thread Kam Leo
On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Beartooth  wrote:
>
>Last time a monitor bit the dust on me, the local shops were
> already carrying wide ones all but exclusively, blast them -- such
> dimensions were mythical beasts when even the newest of my machines were
> built.
>
>After much tedious labor and more bitter cursing, I got Fedora
> *and* the monitor (HP w2207h) to agree to a compromise. Fedora treats it
> as a 1680x1050 flat panel LCD, but with a choice to *use* it in 1280x1024
> mode.
>
>And all the machines in the house but two are cheerfully running
> F10 that way -- all but two, my wife's and my main one. Those are the
> ones I always upgrade last -- hers because she's writing whole books on
> it, and I do elaborate multiple backups before any big change; and mine
> because it has a second hard drive with XP installed. (I have yet to
> manage to get any of my GPSs to talk with any of my proprietary topo map
> software under wine or CXO.)
>
>Today I decided to tackle my main machine. Anaconda launches --
> but before it starts asking about language, keyboard, etc, I get the
> dread "signal out of range; set to 1680x1050". But it has never ever yet
> let me get to the normal means of resetting the display. All I can do is
> hit the reset button, and start over.
>
>I know there is some slick trick for getting around this, which
> always seems adequate when I recall or reconstruct it; but I don't recall
> now.
>
>Clue, please, someone??
>
> --
> Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert
> Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about.
>

I would do the following:

At the installation screen type "linux text" to perform your installation.

Don't forget to install "system-config-display". It is not installed by default.

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Re: problem of checkinstall

2008-12-27 Thread Kam Leo
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 9:47 AM, cjzjm100  wrote:
> Hi all
> I want to install software by checkinstall,after ./configure and
> make,then i change to root and typed checkinstall,however the bash said
> it could not find the command.what's the problem,and what should i do?
>

1. Do you have checkinstall installed?
2. Are you running it as superuser or root?

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Re: Yet More Yum Woe

2008-12-31 Thread Kam Leo
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Beartooth  wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:03:20 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:08:00 + (UTC), Beartooth wrote:
>[...]
>> What do you get if you run
>>
>>   rpm --query --whatprovides 'mono(gtk-sharp)'
>>
>> and
>>
>>   repoquery --whatprovides 'mono(gtk-sharp)'
>>
>> ?
>The first tells me an rpm for gtk-sharp; the second just gives my
> root prompt back.
>
>>
>> In case you don't have repoquery yet, you can find it in the "yum-utils"
>> package.
>
>I tried "yum install yum-utils" -- it says I have it, and it's
> the latest.
>
>> There has been a gtk-shark2 update recently, and it certainly provides
>> these four things which are complained about.
>>
>> "sysinfo" is not found in the Fedora package collection, however. I
>> wonder whether that might be of importance. If you "rpm -e sysinfo" it
>> and then try yum update again, any change?
>>
>>> Complete!
>>> (1, [u'Please report this error in http://yum.baseurl.org/report'])
>>>
>>> I haven't the faintest idea what that means; so I google the
>>> error line.
>>>
>>>  It sends me to a wad of sites on Fedora-forum (which I never have
>>> been able to use; but I see there are discussions back at least to
>>> 2007).
>>>
>>> So I go to that yum site, and it wants me to register; I try.
>>>
>>> Three different browsers tell me its certificate is no good,
>>> and
>>> urge me strongly not to go there.
>>
>> Still you could choose to go there (and add an exception for the
>> certificate). ;)
>
>I tried it, and the warnings got stronger; one (Galeon or
> Epiphany) assured me that no honest X,Y, or Z (which seemed to cover 99
> 44/100% of the waterfront among them) would ever ask me to do that.
> That's when I quit and asked here instead. *Can* someone vouch for
> yum.baseurl.org -- including that nobody could be spoofing it??
>
>I'd've done it if it'd been a site I know; but it isn't.
>
>[]
>>> Transaction Summary
>>>
> 
>>> Install  0 Package(s)
>>> Update   0 Package(s)
>>> Remove  18 Package(s)
>>>
>>> Some of that looks very serious; I don't want to futz with
>>> things
>>> named sysinfo nor gnome-desktop-*. (I might, but I once did try some
>>> such thing, long ago, and it removed yum! I had one devil of a time
>>> with that ...)
>
>Now, after Ron Siven's assurance here, I have removed "sysinfo"
> -- and everything seems fine. Some sort of orphan from an old install,
> maybe 
>
>> If it prints a list of what packages it will remove, it won't silently
>> remove itself.
>
>Yes; many a time have I taken advantage of that.
>
>> What makes "yum remove ..." dangerous is that other dependency chains
>> are much longer and would lead to removing many more packages. Paying
>> close attention to the printed list and the y/n safety check is very
>> important.
>
>Yes!!
>
>Many many thanks!
>
> --
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> Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about.

It will probably do you or anyone who upgrades a system to run
`package-cleanup --orphans' to find old packages no longer resident in
enabled repositories.

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Re: Yet More Yum Woe

2009-01-01 Thread Kam Leo
On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Beartooth  wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 23:32:57 -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
>
>> It will probably do you or anyone who upgrades a system to run
>> `package-cleanup --orphans' to find old packages no longer resident in
>> enabled repositories.
>
>OK : On machine #1, Hbsk2, I get :
>
> [r...@hbsk2 ~]# package-cleanup --orphans
> Setting up yum
> Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
> flash-plugin-9.0.124.0-release.i386
> gmime-2.2.21-2.fc9.i386
> gnome-packagekit-0.3.12-3.fc9.i386
> kernel-2.6.27.7-53.fc9.i686
> kernel-2.6.27.9-73.fc9.i686
> kernel-devel-2.6.27.7-53.fc9.i686
> kernel-devel-2.6.27.9-73.fc9.i686
> kmenu-gnome-0.8-1.fc9.noarch
> mono-addins-0.3.1-3.fc9.i386
> opera-9.63-2474.gcc4.shared.qt3.i386
> setroubleshoot-2.0.12-4.fc9.noarch
> setroubleshoot-server-2.0.12-4.fc9.noarch
> xorg-x11-drv-evdev-2.0.8-1.fc9.i386
> [r...@hbsk2 ~]#
>
>On the one that had the yum woes, #2, Hbsk (which #1 mostly
> replaces, and which is therefore Prime Backup) I get a similar result :
>
> [r...@hbsk ~]# package-cleanup --orphans
> Setting up yum
> Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, fedorakmod, kernel-module, refresh-
> packagekit
> Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
>  * livna: rpm.livna.org
>  * fedora: fedora.mirrors.tds.net
>  * rpmfusion-free-updates: astromirror.uchicago.edu
>  * rpmfusion-nonfree-updates: astromirror.uchicago.edu
>  * rpmfusion-free: astromirror.uchicago.edu
>  * updates: fedora.mirrors.tds.net
>  * rpmfusion-nonfree: astromirror.uchicago.edu
> akode-2.0.2-5.fc9.i386
> akode-pulseaudio-2.0.2-5.fc9.i386
> fedorainfinity-kdm-theme-1.0.4-1.fc8.noarch
> flash-plugin-10.0.12.36-release.i386
> gnome-spell-1.0.8-5.fc9.i386
> kdebindings-dcopperl-3.5.9-1.fc8.i386
> kernel-2.6.27.7-134.fc10.i686
> kernel-devel-2.6.27.7-134.fc10.i686
> kleansweep-0.2.9-8.fc9.i386
> kmenu-gnome-0.8-1.fc9.noarch
> libflashsupport-000-0.5.svn20070904.i386
> opera-9.63-2474.gcc4.shared.qt3.i386
> setroubleshoot-2.0.12-4.fc9.noarch
> setroubleshoot-server-2.0.12-4.fc9.noarch
> system-config-soundcard-2.0.6-11.fc8.noarch
> xorg-x11-drv-cyrix-1.1.0-5.fc8.i386
> xorg-x11-drv-nsc-2.8.1-4.fc8.i386
> xorg-x11-drv-via-0.2.2-4.fc8.i386
> xorg-x11-fonts-truetype-7.2-3.fc8.noarch
> [r...@hbsk ~]#
>
>Very Dumb Question : Are these lists telling me what *has been*
> removed? Or what I *may wish to* remove, or ...? IOW, am I done??
>
> --
> Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert
> Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about.

Before you manually remove any of the packages listed run "yum
upgrade" again. "package-cleanup --orphans" is really a dumb utility.
It only tells you that the package is no longer in a active
repository. The listed package(s) may have been obsoleted due to a
pending update.
 Packages listed may also include those you installed from outside of
the repository system, e.g. Opera,  Adobe Flashplayer or other third
party rpm package.

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Re: Yum problem on F10

2009-01-04 Thread Kam Leo
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 9:26 PM, William W. Austin  wrote:
> Apologies in advance if this gets through twice - I posted this about
> 24 hours ago, have not yet seen it on the list, and just got a bounce
> message, so I assume that the first try won't get through.
> --
>
> I have three machines on which I installed f10 about 2 weeks ago.
> Two of them are identical as to hardware and the other is a bit larger
> and faster. All are x86_64 machines previously running fedora 7, 8, or
> 9.
>
> On two of the machines I wiped the drive on which I installed /,
> /tmp, /usr, and /var, and on the third (the 'larger' machine) I added a
> new 1TB drive to hold those (plus other things).
>
> The install - using the same install DVD - went smoothly on all 3 of
> them.
>
> However, on two of the machines (one of the twins and the "larger" box)
> yum works just fine.  On the third - which according to "rpm -qa" has
> exactly the same packages installed - yum fails every time with a
> message "public key for  is not installed".
>
> Obviously I have hosed up something here on that third machine, but I
> haven't found it yet and it's driving me batty.  I have gone through
> documentation until I'm going blind without picking up a clue.
>
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Feel free to write me
> privately if you prefer and I'll summarize for the list later.
>
> Thanks
> - wwa
>
> --
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> "life is just another phase i'm going through. this time, anyway ..."

What package is giving you the error and what repositories do you have enabled?

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Re: A Possible Reason for Problems with Flash Player

2009-01-07 Thread Kam Leo
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Dave Feustel  wrote:
> After attempting to install the Firefox Flash plugin,
> I kept getting SELinux alerts every time I started Firefox.
> After deleting all the files in the directory
> /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper, I continued to get SELinux alerts.
> The flash plugin attempts to make the stack executable, which
> SELinux does not permit on my system.
>
> The alerts from one invocation of Firefox follow:
>
>  2/home/daf}firefox
> Error: /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/plugin-config not found
>   /usr/lib64/nspluginwrapper/plugin-config not found
> FoxyProxy settingsDir = /home/daf/.mozilla/firefox/jde131vm.default
> ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
> ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
> ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
> ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
> ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
> ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
> ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
> ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
> ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
> ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
> ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
> ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
> LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library
> /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/npwrapp
> er.so [/usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/npwrapper.so: cannot open shared object
> file: Pe
> rmission denied]
> GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetMIMEDescription
> GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetMIMEDescription return
> GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetValue
> GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetValue: returning plugin name.
> GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetValue return
> GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetValue
> GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetValue: returning plugin description.
> GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetValue return
> LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library
> /usr/lib/flash-plugin/libflashpl
> ayer.so [/usr/lib/flash-plugin/libflashplayer.so: cannot enable
> executable stack
>  as shared object requires: Permission denied]
>
> ---
> Not quite sure what to do with this, other than to ignore it.>

You left out the most important facts regarding your problem:

1. Version and architecture of Fedora. (I'm assuming that you are
using a x64 version.)
2. Whose flash plugin and version?

Have you tried the 64-bit alpha release from Adobe.
http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html ? Just extract it
and place it into /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/, restart Firefox and check
"about:plugins" to see if it installed.

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Re: A Possible Reason for Problems with Flash Player

2009-01-07 Thread Kam Leo
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Dave Feustel  wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 12:25:21PM -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Dave Feustel  
>> wrote:
>> > After attempting to install the Firefox Flash plugin,
>> > I kept getting SELinux alerts every time I started Firefox.
>> > After deleting all the files in the directory
>> > /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper, I continued to get SELinux alerts.
>> > The flash plugin attempts to make the stack executable, which
>> > SELinux does not permit on my system.
>> >
>> > The alerts from one invocation of Firefox follow:
>> >
>> >  2/home/daf}firefox
>> > Error: /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/plugin-config not found
>> >   /usr/lib64/nspluginwrapper/plugin-config not found
>> > FoxyProxy settingsDir = /home/daf/.mozilla/firefox/jde131vm.default
>> > ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
>> > ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
>> > ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
>> > ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
>> > ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
>> > ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
>> > ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
>> > ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
>> > ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
>> > ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
>> > ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
>> > ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
>> > LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library
>> > /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/npwrapp
>> > er.so [/usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/npwrapper.so: cannot open shared object
>> > file: Pe
>> > rmission denied]
>> > GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetMIMEDescription
>> > GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetMIMEDescription return
>> > GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetValue
>> > GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetValue: returning plugin name.
>> > GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetValue return
>> > GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetValue
>> > GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetValue: returning plugin description.
>> > GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetValue return
>> > LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library
>> > /usr/lib/flash-plugin/libflashpl
>> > ayer.so [/usr/lib/flash-plugin/libflashplayer.so: cannot enable
>> > executable stack
>> >  as shared object requires: Permission denied]
>> >
>> > ---
>> > Not quite sure what to do with this, other than to ignore it.>
>>
>> You left out the most important facts regarding your problem:
>>
>> 1. Version and architecture of Fedora. (I'm assuming that you are
>> using a x64 version.)
>> 2. Whose flash plugin and version?
>>
>> Have you tried the 64-bit alpha release from Adobe.
>> http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html ? Just extract it
>> and place it into /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/, restart Firefox and check
>> "about:plugins" to see if it installed.
>
> I'm running 32-bit F9. It was originally my intention to install 64-bit,
> but the Fedora 9 Bible came with a DVD containing only the 32-bit
> version.
>

OK, F9.  Whose plugin?

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Re: A Possible Reason for Problems with Flash Player

2009-01-07 Thread Kam Leo
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Dave Feustel  wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 12:53:19PM -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Dave Feustel  
>> wrote:
>> > On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 12:25:21PM -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
>> >> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Dave Feustel  
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > After attempting to install the Firefox Flash plugin,
>> >> > I kept getting SELinux alerts every time I started Firefox.
>> >> > After deleting all the files in the directory
>> >> > /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper, I continued to get SELinux alerts.
>> >> > The flash plugin attempts to make the stack executable, which
>> >> > SELinux does not permit on my system.
>> >> >
>> >> > The alerts from one invocation of Firefox follow:
>> >> >
>> >> >  2/home/daf}firefox
>> >> > Error: /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/plugin-config not found
>> >> >   /usr/lib64/nspluginwrapper/plugin-config not found
>> >> > FoxyProxy settingsDir = /home/daf/.mozilla/firefox/jde131vm.default
>> >> > ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
>> >> > ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
>> >> > ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
>> >> > ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
>> >> > ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
>> >> > ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
>> >> > ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
>> >> > ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
>> >> > ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
>> >> > ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
>> >> > ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
>> >> > ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
>> >> > LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library
>> >> > /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/npwrapp
>> >> > er.so [/usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/npwrapper.so: cannot open shared object
>> >> > file: Pe
>> >> > rmission denied]
>> >> > GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetMIMEDescription
>> >> > GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetMIMEDescription return
>> >> > GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetValue
>> >> > GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetValue: returning plugin name.
>> >> > GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetValue return
>> >> > GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetValue
>> >> > GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetValue: returning plugin description.
>> >> > GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetValue return
>> >> > LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library
>> >> > /usr/lib/flash-plugin/libflashpl
>> >> > ayer.so [/usr/lib/flash-plugin/libflashplayer.so: cannot enable
>> >> > executable stack
>> >> >  as shared object requires: Permission denied]
>> >> >
>> >> > ---
>> >> > Not quite sure what to do with this, other than to ignore it.>
>> >>
>> >> You left out the most important facts regarding your problem:
>> >>
>> >> 1. Version and architecture of Fedora. (I'm assuming that you are
>> >> using a x64 version.)
>> >> 2. Whose flash plugin and version?
>> >>
>> >> Have you tried the 64-bit alpha release from Adobe.
>> >> http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html ? Just extract it
>> >> and place it into /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/, restart Firefox and check
>> >> "about:plugins" to see if it installed.
>> >
>> > I'm running 32-bit F9. It was originally my intention to install 64-bit,
>> > but the Fedora 9 Bible came with a DVD containing only the 32-bit
>> > version.
>> >
>>
>> OK, F9.  Whose plugin?
>
> The F9 flash plugin
>
> total 476
> -- 1 root root  25900 2008-12-09 00:16 npconfig
> -- 1 root root  92700 2008-12-09 00:16 npplayer
> -- 1 root root   3394 2008-12-09 00:16 npviewer
> -- 1 root root 162172 2008-12-09 00:16 npviewer.bin
> -- 1 root root 114544 2008-12-09 00:16 npwrapper.so
> -- 1 root root 85 2008-12-09 00:16 nspluginplayer
> -- 1 root root  60112 2008-12-09 00:16 plugin-config
>

That is not the flash-plugin. You are listing the files in the
nspluginwrapper directory. Try "su -c "rpm -q flash-plugin". If
flash-plugin is not installed go to http://www.adobe.com/flashplayer/
and download the rpm package. You should receive
flash-plugin-10.0.15.3-release.i386.rpm.

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Re: A Possible Reason for Problems with Flash Player

2009-01-07 Thread Kam Leo
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Kam Leo  wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Dave Feustel  wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 12:53:19PM -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Dave Feustel  
>>> wrote:
>>> > On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 12:25:21PM -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
>>> >> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Dave Feustel  
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > After attempting to install the Firefox Flash plugin,
>>> >> > I kept getting SELinux alerts every time I started Firefox.
>>> >> > After deleting all the files in the directory
>>> >> > /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper, I continued to get SELinux alerts.
>>> >> > The flash plugin attempts to make the stack executable, which
>>> >> > SELinux does not permit on my system.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > The alerts from one invocation of Firefox follow:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >  2/home/daf}firefox
>>> >> > Error: /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/plugin-config not found
>>> >> >   /usr/lib64/nspluginwrapper/plugin-config not found
>>> >> > FoxyProxy settingsDir = /home/daf/.mozilla/firefox/jde131vm.default
>>> >> > ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
>>> >> > ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
>>> >> > ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
>>> >> > ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
>>> >> > ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
>>> >> > ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
>>> >> > ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
>>> >> > ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
>>> >> > ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
>>> >> > ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
>>> >> > ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
>>> >> > ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
>>> >> > LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library
>>> >> > /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/npwrapp
>>> >> > er.so [/usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/npwrapper.so: cannot open shared object
>>> >> > file: Pe
>>> >> > rmission denied]
>>> >> > GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetMIMEDescription
>>> >> > GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetMIMEDescription return
>>> >> > GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetValue
>>> >> > GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetValue: returning plugin name.
>>> >> > GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetValue return
>>> >> > GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetValue
>>> >> > GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetValue: returning plugin 
>>> >> > description.
>>> >> > GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetValue return
>>> >> > LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library
>>> >> > /usr/lib/flash-plugin/libflashpl
>>> >> > ayer.so [/usr/lib/flash-plugin/libflashplayer.so: cannot enable
>>> >> > executable stack
>>> >> >  as shared object requires: Permission denied]
>>> >> >
>>> >> > ---
>>> >> > Not quite sure what to do with this, other than to ignore it.>
>>> >>
>>> >> You left out the most important facts regarding your problem:
>>> >>
>>> >> 1. Version and architecture of Fedora. (I'm assuming that you are
>>> >> using a x64 version.)
>>> >> 2. Whose flash plugin and version?
>>> >>
>>> >> Have you tried the 64-bit alpha release from Adobe.
>>> >> http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html ? Just extract it
>>> >> and place it into /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/, restart Firefox and check
>>> >> "about:plugins" to see if it installed.
>>> >
>>> > I'm running 32-bit F9. It was originally my intention to install 64-bit,
>>> > but the Fedora 9 Bible came with a DVD containing only the 32-bit
>>> > version.
>>> >
>>>
>>> OK, F9.  Whose plugin?
>>
>> The F9 flash plugin
>>
>> total 476
>> -- 1 root root  25900 2008-12-09 00:16 npconfig
>> -- 1 root root  92700 2008-12-09 00:16 npplayer
>> -- 1 root root   3394 2008-12-09 00:16 npviewer
>> -- 1 root root 162172 2008-12-09 00:16 npviewer.bin
>> -- 1 root root 114544 2008-12-09 00:16 npwrapper.so
>> -- 1 root root 85 2008-12-09 00:16 nspluginplayer
>> -- 1 root root  60112 2008-12-09 00:16 plugin-config
>>
>
> That is not the flash-plugin. You are listing the files in the
> nspluginwrapper directory. Try "su -c "rpm -q flash-plugin". If
> flash-plugin is not installed go to http://www.adobe.com/flashplayer/
> and download the rpm package. You should receive
> flash-plugin-10.0.15.3-release.i386.rpm.
>

Sorry for omitted a quote in the above. That should be

su -c 'rpm -q flash-plugin'

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Re: A Possible Reason for Problems with Flash Player

2009-01-07 Thread Kam Leo
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Dave Feustel  wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 04:29:26PM -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Dave Feustel  wrote:
>> > On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 03:39:32PM -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
>> >> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Dave Feustel  
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 12:53:19PM -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
>> >> >> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Dave Feustel 
>> >> >>  wrote:
>> >> >> > On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 12:25:21PM -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Dave Feustel 
>> >> >> >>  wrote:
>> >> >> >> > After attempting to install the Firefox Flash plugin,
>> >> >> >> > I kept getting SELinux alerts every time I started Firefox.
>> >> >> >> > After deleting all the files in the directory
>> >> >> >> > /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper, I continued to get SELinux alerts.
>> >> >> >> > The flash plugin attempts to make the stack executable, which
>> >> >> >> > SELinux does not permit on my system.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > The alerts from one invocation of Firefox follow:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >  2/home/daf}firefox
>> >> >> >> > Error: /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/plugin-config not found
>> >> >> >> >   /usr/lib64/nspluginwrapper/plugin-config not found
>> >> >> >> > FoxyProxy settingsDir = 
>> >> >> >> > /home/daf/.mozilla/firefox/jde131vm.default
>> >> >> >> > ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
>> >> >> >> > ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
>> >> >> >> > ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
>> >> >> >> > ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
>> >> >> >> > ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
>> >> >> >> > ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
>> >> >> >> > ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
>> >> >> >> > ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
>> >> >> >> > ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
>> >> >> >> > ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
>> >> >> >> > ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
>> >> >> >> > ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
>> >> >> >> > LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library
>> >> >> >> > /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/npwrapp
>> >> >> >> > er.so [/usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/npwrapper.so: cannot open shared 
>> >> >> >> > object
>> >> >> >> > file: Pe
>> >> >> >> > rmission denied]
>> >> >> >> > GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetMIMEDescription
>> >> >> >> > GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetMIMEDescription return
>> >> >> >> > GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetValue
>> >> >> >> > GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetValue: returning plugin name.
>> >> >> >> > GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetValue return
>> >> >> >> > GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetValue
>> >> >> >> > GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetValue: returning plugin 
>> >> >> >> > description.
>> >> >> >> > GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x9fc7cf0: NP_GetValue return
>> >> >> >> > LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library
>> >> >> >> > /usr/lib/flash-plugin/libflashpl
>> >> >> >> > ayer.so [/usr/lib/flash-plugin/libflashplayer.so: cannot enable
>> >> >> >> > executable stack
>> >> >> >> >  as shared object requires: Permission denied]
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > ---
>> >> >> >> > Not quite sure what to do with this, other than to ignore it.>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> You left out the most important facts regarding your problem:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> 1. Version and architecture of Fedora. (I'm assuming that you are
>> >> >> >> using a 

Re: Single mouse click interpreted as a double click

2009-01-07 Thread Kam Leo
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu
 wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 11:14 +, Paul Smith wrote:
>> I am using F10 and I am noticing recently that when I click once on
>> the mouse button, sometimes, my single click is interpreted as a
>> double one. How can I fix it? Is this a bug?
>
> This has been happening to me a lot, and only started in Fedora 10.  I
> thought that perhaps the batteries were going, but after replacing them,
> nothing changed.
>
> I think there's a bug somewhere.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ranbir
>
> --
> Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu
> Linux 2.6.27.9-159.fc10.x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> 22:37:24 up 5 days, 10:02, 3 users, load average: 0.60, 0.38, 0.21

Almost two months ago after an update to xorg-x11-drv-vmmouse and I
experienced a problem similar to yours. The fix was to add

  Option "AutoAddDevices" "off"

to ServerLayout section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
fixes the problem.

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Re: FC 10 Software Update

2009-01-09 Thread Kam Leo
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Usman S. Ansari  wrote:
> When I try to update my system, I get following error.
>
> failed to get a TID: A security policy in place prevents this sender from
> sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file
> (rejected message had interface "org.freedesktop.PackageKit.Transaction"
> member "SetLocale" error name "(unset)" destination
> "org.freedesktop.PackageKit") (0)
>
> Can someone tell me how to fix this.
>
> I am having other issues too, but want to fix this issue first (may be a
> software update has already fixed my issues).
>

As a work-around for the extra fluff that has been thrown in to Fedora
[flame-bait/joke: Real men use CLI] open a terminal, use "su" to
become root, and run "yum upgrade".  With a working network connection
you should be able to update your system to the latest packages.

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Re: experiences with preupgrade?

2009-01-14 Thread Kam Leo
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Michael Hannon  wrote:
> Greetings.  At work we're attemtping to upgrade a bunch of Fedora 8
> (i386) systems to Fedora 10, using the preupgrade utility.
>
> We've tried this on five or six systems now.  In a couple of cases it
> has been laughably easy to upgrade this way.  But in the majority of
> cases the procedure fails completely.
>
> We had one case where the system halted (frozen) at the:
>
>GRUB
>
> prompt.  This was during the first reboot after running the preupgrade
> utlity.
>
> In another case, the system hung at the same place (first reboot after
> running preupgrade) with some indecipherable graphic repeated endlessly
> across the screen:
>
>mumble  mumble  ...  mumble
>mumble  ...  mumble
>..
>..
>..
>mumble  ...  mumble
>
> In another case that was reported to me, but which I didn't see
> first-hand, the entire preupgrade process seemed to go entirely
> smoothly, but the system was still running Fedora 8 after all the
> reboots.
>
> Am I missing something here?  As I said, when the procedure works, it
> seems very simple, so it's hard to see how we could be missing steps or
> whatever.
>
> Is this behavior typical?  Is there some workaround, e.g., some kernel
> parameter to supply, or some other edit to grub.conf, for instance?
>
> Thanks.
>
> -- Mike

Last night I tried preupgrade on a VMware Workstation F8_x64 client.
After downloading 2+ GB of packages the installer (anaconda) could not
find the drive it was supposed to upgrade.  That'll teach me to listen
to fanboyish chatter. Better off installing fresh using DVD or ISO
image.

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Re: Gnome terminal

2009-01-16 Thread Kam Leo
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Marc Schwartz
 wrote:
> Aaron Konstam  writes:
>
>> On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 14:37 +0100, Theodore Papadopoulo wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I recently upgraded from Fedora 7 to Fedora 10.
>>> One thing that midly annoys me is that whenever I'm starting up a new
>>> terminal
>>> (from the menu in the background not form the menu in the panel), the
>>> new terminal
>>> starts with a current work dir being ~/Desktop (instead of ~/).
>>>
>>> Is this an upgrade problem or something that has been changed. In the
>>> later case,
>>> is there a way to restore the f7 behaviour (ie cwd being ~/).
>>>
>>>   Thank's a lot for any insight.
>>>
>>> Theo.
>>>
>> I could have sworn that there was an option for this in Configuration
>> Editor (or .gconf) but I cannot find it, so that is not much help.
>
> There is a bug posted here:
>
>  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468293
>
> with no follow up since it was posted last October. I just updated it
> with the following info:
>
>
> In follow up, this behavior is controlled in:
>
>  /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir
>
> Note that this is NOT:
>
>  /apps/nautilus/preferences/desktop_is_home_dir
>
> which will change the behavior of the terminal when opened from the
> background menu, but it will ALSO make your desktop your home directory.
>
> This bug is probably more correctly filed against "nautilus-open-terminal".
>
> The following appears in the NEWS file for 0.9:
>
> Add GConf key for deciding whether right-clicking the desktop opens home
> directory or desktop directory.
> Use g_get_user_special_dir() to determine the desktop directory, and falls 
> back
> to ~/Desktop (#468955).
>
>
> HTH,
>
> Marc Schwartz

Google search is your and my friend. A search found this Ubuntu link:
http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/11/06/update-nautilus-open-terminal-behavior/

The fix is to run this as root:

gconftool-2 --set --type=bool
/apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir true

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Re: Gnome terminal

2009-01-16 Thread Kam Leo
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Kam Leo  wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Marc Schwartz
>  wrote:
>> Aaron Konstam  writes:
>>
>>> On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 14:37 +0100, Theodore Papadopoulo wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I recently upgraded from Fedora 7 to Fedora 10.
>>>> One thing that midly annoys me is that whenever I'm starting up a new
>>>> terminal
>>>> (from the menu in the background not form the menu in the panel), the
>>>> new terminal
>>>> starts with a current work dir being ~/Desktop (instead of ~/).
>>>>
>>>> Is this an upgrade problem or something that has been changed. In the
>>>> later case,
>>>> is there a way to restore the f7 behaviour (ie cwd being ~/).
>>>>
>>>>   Thank's a lot for any insight.
>>>>
>>>> Theo.
>>>>
>>> I could have sworn that there was an option for this in Configuration
>>> Editor (or .gconf) but I cannot find it, so that is not much help.
>>
>> There is a bug posted here:
>>
>>  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468293
>>
>> with no follow up since it was posted last October. I just updated it
>> with the following info:
>>
>>
>> In follow up, this behavior is controlled in:
>>
>>  /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir
>>
>> Note that this is NOT:
>>
>>  /apps/nautilus/preferences/desktop_is_home_dir
>>
>> which will change the behavior of the terminal when opened from the
>> background menu, but it will ALSO make your desktop your home directory.
>>
>> This bug is probably more correctly filed against "nautilus-open-terminal".
>>
>> The following appears in the NEWS file for 0.9:
>>
>> Add GConf key for deciding whether right-clicking the desktop opens home
>> directory or desktop directory.
>> Use g_get_user_special_dir() to determine the desktop directory, and falls 
>> back
>> to ~/Desktop (#468955).
>>
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Marc Schwartz
>
> Google search is your and my friend. A search found this Ubuntu link:
> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/11/06/update-nautilus-open-terminal-behavior/
>
> The fix is to run this as root:
>
> gconftool-2 --set --type=bool
> /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir true
>

Note: My email mangled the command above. It should all be on the same line. Or

gconftool-2 --set --type=bool \
  /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir true

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Re: Gnome terminal

2009-01-16 Thread Kam Leo
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Tim  wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 10:58 -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
>> The fix is to run this as root:
>>
>> gconftool-2 --set --type=bool 
>> /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir true
>
> Shouldn't that be done as the user that wants their configuration
> changed?
>
> It works for me, done as me, here on my computer.  I'd expect doing it
> as root to only affect the root user, and a different command line to be
> used to set a system default to be applied to users.
>
> --
> [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r
> 2.6.27.9-73.fc9.i686

I opened a terminal, did an "su -" and ran the command. Opened another
terminal after executing the command and the default directory changed
to /home/user. I logged out and logged in as a different user. The
change applied across the board for all users.

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Re: Gnome terminal

2009-01-16 Thread Kam Leo
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Kam Leo  wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Tim  wrote:
>> On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 10:58 -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
>>> The fix is to run this as root:
>>>
>>> gconftool-2 --set --type=bool 
>>> /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir true
>>
>> Shouldn't that be done as the user that wants their configuration
>> changed?
>>
>> It works for me, done as me, here on my computer.  I'd expect doing it
>> as root to only affect the root user, and a different command line to be
>> used to set a system default to be applied to users.
>>
>> --
>> [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r
>> 2.6.27.9-73.fc9.i686
>
> I opened a terminal, did an "su -" and ran the command. Opened another
> terminal after executing the command and the default directory changed
> to /home/user. I logged out and logged in as a different user. The
> change applied across the board for all users.
>

I stand corrected. A reboot and logging back in as myself shows the
default directory going back to Desktop. Only root got the directory
changed to home.

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Re: Gnome terminal

2009-01-16 Thread Kam Leo
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Paul W. Frields  wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:48:09AM -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Kam Leo  wrote:
>> > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Tim  wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 10:58 -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
>> >>> The fix is to run this as root:
>> >>>
>> >>> gconftool-2 --set --type=bool 
>> >>> /apps/nautilus-open-terminal/desktop_opens_home_dir true
>> >>
>> >> Shouldn't that be done as the user that wants their configuration
>> >> changed?
>> >>
>> >> It works for me, done as me, here on my computer.  I'd expect doing it
>> >> as root to only affect the root user, and a different command line to be
>> >> used to set a system default to be applied to users.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r
>> >> 2.6.27.9-73.fc9.i686
>> >
>> > I opened a terminal, did an "su -" and ran the command. Opened another
>> > terminal after executing the command and the default directory changed
>> > to /home/user. I logged out and logged in as a different user. The
>> > change applied across the board for all users.
>> >
>>
>> I stand corrected. A reboot and logging back in as myself shows the
>> default directory going back to Desktop. Only root got the directory
>> changed to home.
>
> You'd only want to do this on a per-user basis, so that's the expected
> behavior.  Global GConf schemas and defaults are stored in /etc/gconf.
>
> --
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How does one view or edit the global GConf schemas?

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Re: Gnome terminal

2009-01-16 Thread Kam Leo
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Paul W. Frields  wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 02:15:30PM -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Paul W. Frields  wrote:
>> >
>> > You'd only want to do this on a per-user basis, so that's the expected
>> > behavior.  Global GConf schemas and defaults are stored in /etc/gconf.
>>
>> How does one view or edit the global GConf schemas?
>
> Personally, I just use a text editor.
>
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Thanks.

I did more googling and found another package that is not installed by
default: gconf-editor

After installing the package you click on Applications->System
Tools->Configuration Editor and drill down the apps directory until
you get to nautilus-open-terminal. Click on it to open the file. Then,
you can set or reset the boolean for desktop_opens_home_dir. However,
I don't see any way to create an entry/value pair if one is not
present. Is there a GUI applet for that function?

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Re: Gnome terminal

2009-01-16 Thread Kam Leo
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Paul W. Frields  wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 03:48:35PM -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Paul W. Frields  wrote:
>> > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 02:15:30PM -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
>> >> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Paul W. Frields  
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > You'd only want to do this on a per-user basis, so that's the expected
>> >> > behavior.  Global GConf schemas and defaults are stored in /etc/gconf.
>> >>
>> >> How does one view or edit the global GConf schemas?
>> >
>> > Personally, I just use a text editor.
>> >
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> I did more googling and found another package that is not installed by
>> default: gconf-editor
>>
>> After installing the package you click on Applications->System
>> Tools->Configuration Editor and drill down the apps directory until
>> you get to nautilus-open-terminal. Click on it to open the file. Then,
>> you can set or reset the boolean for desktop_opens_home_dir. However,
>> I don't see any way to create an entry/value pair if one is not
>> present. Is there a GUI applet for that function?
>
> Be aware that you're still editing your own ~/.gconf store at that
> point, not the system-wide schemas or store.
>
> To make a new key/value pair, just right click in the key listing on
> the right pane; the "New Key..." option should appear in the popup
> menu.
>
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Thanks, that works.

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Re: vnc server problem

2009-01-18 Thread Kam Leo
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Craig White  wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-01-18 at 22:42 -0500, Mail Lists wrote:
>> I administer several 'family' computers using vnc server running on
>> the root display (n.b. on root display)
>>
>>To achieve this I did the following in Fedora 10:
>>
>>Created an xorg.conf with the following lines
>> #
>> # Minimal xorg.conf for vnc on root display
>> #
>> Section "Screen"
>>   Identifier "Screen0"
>> Option "passwordfile" "/usr/local/etc/vnc/passwd"
>> EndSection
>>
>> Section "Module"
>> Load "vnc"
>> EndSection
>>
>> Retsarting X (telinit 3; telinit 5)
>>
>> Shows vnc starting - /var/log/Xorg.0.log has:
>> ...
>> (II) LoadModule: "vnc"
>>
>> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libvnc.so
>> (II) Module vnc: vendor="RealVNC Ltd"
>> compiled for 4.3.99.902, module version = 1.0.0
>> Module class: X.Org Server Extension
>> ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 1.1
>> (II) Loading extension VNC
>>
>> ...
>>
>>  However nothing is listening on port 5900 ...
>>
>>  So it doesn't work.
>>
>>  Any help much appreciated.
> 
> how do you know that it's not listening on 5900?
>
> netstat -an |grep 5900
>
> anything show up?
>
> Craig

Another question: Did you open your firewall for the port?

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Re: Package Manager Denies Permission to Install

2009-01-19 Thread Kam Leo
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Richard Hughes  wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 10:03 -0500, R. G. Newbury wrote:
>> Clicking on the link gave the usual 'what do you want to do' message.
>> Clicking install raised a warning about installing as root. I clicked
>> continueand got a message that I 'didn't have permission to
>> continue' (or words to that effect) and my system, having assumed
>> god-like powers refused to let me install the file!
>
> Logging in as root is like walking around with a loaded shotgun in your
> belt with no safety latch. You can't install packages as the root user
> as it's simply not secure. Just use a normal user login.
>
>> WTF??? Does anyone know where this little bit of insanity is stored
>> and how to remove it?
>
> It's called PackageKit, and it's not insane. If you're running gtk+ as
> root, you're already insecure.
>
> Richard.

Regardless of the security rant, the default settings for yum should
have enabled the Everything repository. Just use yum  to install the
package. As a bonus yum will also add any dependencies you might have
missed. Add/Remove Software from the GUI should also be able to do the
same.

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Re: Package Manager Denies Permission to Install

2009-01-19 Thread Kam Leo
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Kam Leo  wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Richard Hughes  wrote:
>> On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 10:03 -0500, R. G. Newbury wrote:
>>> Clicking on the link gave the usual 'what do you want to do' message.
>>> Clicking install raised a warning about installing as root. I clicked
>>> continueand got a message that I 'didn't have permission to
>>> continue' (or words to that effect) and my system, having assumed
>>> god-like powers refused to let me install the file!
>>
>> Logging in as root is like walking around with a loaded shotgun in your
>> belt with no safety latch. You can't install packages as the root user
>> as it's simply not secure. Just use a normal user login.
>>
>>> WTF??? Does anyone know where this little bit of insanity is stored
>>> and how to remove it?
>>
>> It's called PackageKit, and it's not insane. If you're running gtk+ as
>> root, you're already insecure.
>>
>> Richard.
>
> Regardless of the security rant, the default settings for yum should
> have enabled the Everything repository. Just use yum  to install the
> package. As a bonus yum will also add any dependencies you might have
> missed. Add/Remove Software from the GUI should also be able to do the
> same.
>

Just another thought, the security rant is pointless. A user can just
as easily copy the file's URL, open a terminal, and install the
package using rpm. What's the difference whether the package got
installed by root or via "su"? If the package has malicious content
you're hosed. Trust begins with whomever is given root/superuser
privileges and the site hosting the packages.

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Re: updateing ARGHH.

2009-01-19 Thread Kam Leo
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Michael Comperchio  wrote:
> Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>>
>> Michael Comperchio wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> When I run the 'Update System' 'cuz it's telling me I have updates... I
>>> get the following errors:
>>>
>>> libavcodec.so.51 is needed by package gstreamer-ffmpeg-0.10.5-1.fc10.i386
>>> libavcodec.so.51 is needed by package
>>> xine-lib-extras-freeworld-1.1.16-1.fc10.i386
>>> libavcodec.so.51 is needed by package
>>> k3b-extras-freeworld-1.0.5-4.fc10.i386 : Success - empty transaction
>>>
>>> and the update fails. Unfortunately for the silly updater...I HAVE that
>>> file install in /usr/lib... in fact I have .51 .51.71 and .52 installed
>>> ... what's up?
>>>
>>> TIA
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>
>> It is telling you that it could not update libavcodec because it is
>> needed by those packages.
>>
>> Mikkel
>>
>
> OK, I guess I'm missing something. It did NOT do the updates. But I have
> those files!
> Michael

Different versions. You have older. Update wants to install newer.
Already installed packages have requirement for older version.

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Re: Package Manager Denies Permission to Install

2009-01-20 Thread Kam Leo
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 1:30 AM, Richard Hughes  wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 10:16 -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
>> What's the difference whether the package got
>> installed by root or via "su"?
>
> No difference. The difference is that if you're loading a GUI to do it,
> you're running 500,000 lines of code as root in an untrusted
> environment.
>
> Richard.

Well, if you can not trust a GUI then logging in as a user won't help
either. Once that user invokes superuser powers there is no difference
between him/her and root.

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Re: Package Manager Denies Permission to Install

2009-01-20 Thread Kam Leo
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Craig White  wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 09:53 -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 1:30 AM, Richard Hughes  wrote:
>> > On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 10:16 -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
>> >> What's the difference whether the package got
>> >> installed by root or via "su"?
>> >
>> > No difference. The difference is that if you're loading a GUI to do it,
>> > you're running 500,000 lines of code as root in an untrusted
>> > environment.
>> >
>> > Richard.
>>
>> Well, if you can not trust a GUI then logging in as a user won't help
>> either. Once that user invokes superuser powers there is no difference
>> between him/her and root.
> 
> I have no doubt that you actually believe that and I suspect that there
> is little that I could say that would change your mind.
>
> Perhaps you should relate the study you have given to this concept to
> convince us of your analysis.
>
> Craig

It's the person in front of the keyboard/clicking mouse that makes the
difference. Throwing in a requirement to log in as a user just delays
the inevitable.

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Re: Package Manager Denies Permission to Install

2009-01-21 Thread Kam Leo
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
 wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Kevin Kofler  wrote:
>> Richard Hughes wrote:
>>> Sure, but my point if that GTK code is untrusted, and just not designed
>>> to be run with elevated privileges. A buffer-overflow is an easy exploit
>>> if the code is running as uid 0, whether running as setuid or as root.
>>
>> Why would you overflow a buffer on your own machine where you're already
>> root? It makes sense to attack a setuid binary on a machine you're not root
>> on, but it doesn't make sense to attack your own machine.
>
> Really?  In that case I invite you to visit my website evil.com and
> click on a few links. Better still, log into my friendly server and
> run a few of my apps. They're running on my machine, not yours. Of
> course the GUI runs on your machine via X11 ...
>
> poc

A GUI is not required to compromise a machine. No need to go after the
root user either. Take a gander here:
http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/blogcategory/89/102/7/0/

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Re: Package Manager Denies Permission to Install

2009-01-21 Thread Kam Leo
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Craig White  wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-01-21 at 13:42 -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
>>  wrote:
>> > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Kevin Kofler  
>> > wrote:
>> >> Richard Hughes wrote:
>> >>> Sure, but my point if that GTK code is untrusted, and just not designed
>> >>> to be run with elevated privileges. A buffer-overflow is an easy exploit
>> >>> if the code is running as uid 0, whether running as setuid or as root.
>> >>
>> >> Why would you overflow a buffer on your own machine where you're already
>> >> root? It makes sense to attack a setuid binary on a machine you're not 
>> >> root
>> >> on, but it doesn't make sense to attack your own machine.
>> >
>> > Really?  In that case I invite you to visit my website evil.com and
>> > click on a few links. Better still, log into my friendly server and
>> > run a few of my apps. They're running on my machine, not yours. Of
>> > course the GUI runs on your machine via X11 ...
>> >
>> > poc
>>
>> A GUI is not required to compromise a machine. No need to go after the
>> root user either. Take a gander here:
>> http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/blogcategory/89/102/7/0/
> 
> well now...there's a cogent argument.
>
> Suggesting that even though few of the applications that run on X are
> audited for security when run as superuser, that it becomes acceptable
> to do so because other exploits exist that don't require X to propagate.
>
> Interesting logical expansion
>
> Craig

The fallacy is believing you automatically obtain security by auditing
applications running on X for execution by the superuser or preventing
root from logging into X.

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Re: Package Manager Denies Permission to Install

2009-01-23 Thread Kam Leo
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Aaron Konstam  wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 12:10 -0500, R. G. Newbury wrote:
>> Jeff Spaleta  wrote:
>>  > > Kevin Kofler  wrote:
>>  > > But PolicyKit does not work in a root session:
>>  > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=447266
>>
>>  > Hmm...this is probably worthy of some nuanced and masterfully
>>  > persuasive oratory as to where to strike the balance between designing
>>  > for expected use cases and designing a system with flexibility to
>>  > accomedate local needs even when those use cases are not considered
>>  > best practises.  .
>>
>> No nuanced and masterfully persuasive oratory can disguise the fact that
>>someone has made *and enforced* a decision that *they know better
>> than the user* how "THINGS MUST BE DONE" purely because the doing, is
>> considered to be 'not best practice'.
>>
>> In this particular case, the 'best practice' enforcement approaches
>> religious fervour in its application. In the particular instance which
>> started this thread, PolicyKit nags about being root, and then *refuses*
>> to allow the installation of an rpm! It does not deny the right to
>> download and install the rpm in a consoleIt just denies the user the
>> advantages of using PackageManager to resolve dependenices directly.
>>
>> And *exactly* what nuanced extra is added to the equation, by forcing
>> the administrator to log out of root, to log in as a user, to do the
>> same thing? Especially in a circumstance where the install is actually
>> desired to be general and not user-local? This position is idiocy.
>>
>> I don't mind a nag. I DO mind unknown and unaccountable people
>> attempting to enforce their quasi-religious beliefs on me (by
>> quasi-religious, I mean the attitude which equates doing anything while
>> root is akin to giving booze and car-keys to seventeen year old boys:
>> instantly and always catastrophically dangerous.) I know using root can
>> increase the probability of disaster. But I want to be able to decide
>> what the limits of my risk tolerance are, not have someone else do it.
>>
>> That argument, the libertarian argumnent is one of the underlying bases
>> of the free software movement. Let's have it recognized and venerated in
>> the code!
>>
>> Geoff
> My memory is that the designer of PackageManager indicated on the list
> that running PackageManager as root has security problems that running
> it as a user and entering the root password does not have. I believed
> him. Your objection is that it makes you log as a user rather than as
> root.
>
> I believe in the theory that "freedom" derives from the words free doom
> indicating that everyone has a right to commit suicide in his (or her)
> own way. I strongly support your committing suicide in any way you
> desire.
>
> Aaron Konstam

I would like to know why the developer of PackageManager makes a
distinction between a root and a user login? Cut out extraneous code.
Make any user enter the root password.

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Re: LXDE as default in init 5

2009-02-03 Thread Kam Leo
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Richard Shaw  wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 2:48 PM, solarflow99  wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Richard Shaw  wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:39 AM, solarflow99 
>>> wrote:
>>> > I would like to set this as the default, but using runlevel 5 just
>>> > brings up
>>> > GDM by default and I have to select lxde every time.  Anyone happen to
>>> > know
>>> > where you can can set this?  it doesnt seem realted to prefdm, I tried
>>> > that
>>> > already.
>>>
>>> If you select LXDE from GDM then it should remember that setting. I
>>> can't tell for sure if you've done that with the limited information
>>> you've provided.
>>>
>>> I recently installed F10 on a low end laptop (P2 366MHz) w/ 128MB of
>>> ram. I'm using LXDE in combination with Slim (login manager). I
>>> probably should put put it in bugzilla but I created a lxde.switchdesk
>>> file (modified from the fluxbox one) so you can use switchdesk to
>>> change to LXDE. However, I found out the hard way that if you choose
>>> your desktop in GDM, switchdesk will have no effect.
>>
>> all switchdesk does is create a file with a WM setting, so if you type
>> startx to bring up X then it works.  I mentioned that I had to select LXDE
>> every time from GDM so thats what I have been doing, in fact the whole
>> purpose of the message was to ask how to be able to stop doing that.
>
> That's got to be a configuration issue or a bug. Once you set it, it
> should stay that way. The lack of response is either because no one
> else is having the problem or the message subject doesn't catch
> anyone's interest. Might try reposting it as "GDM does not remember
> session selection" or something like that. You could try another
> desktop and see if it's remembered on restart or not which might help
> narrow down the scope of the problem.
>
> Richard
>
> Richard

As I recall in F10 the file, /etc/sysconfig/desktop, was not installed
by default. Have you checked to see if the file exists? If not, create
the file with the following contents and file a bug report:

DESKTOP="LXDE"
DISPLAYMANAGER="GNOME"

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Re: talk about your gEDA/pcb

2009-02-05 Thread Kam Leo
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Robin Laing
 wrote:
> Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
>>
>> Hello there,
>>
>> There is blog post on makezine about gEDA/pcb, I would welcome you to
>> spread the "opensource" word about EDA software tools as comments in
>> this post.
>>
>> http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/02/remixed_drawdio.html
>>
>> It is important for both the public and gEDA/gaf developers to know
>> that people are using gEDA/gaf tools. Currently the gEDA/gaf community
>> is preparing the next major release 1.6 which we are hoping to get it
>> in time for F-11.
>>
>> Happy design.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Chitlesh GOORAH
>>
>
>
> I have used gEDA for some stuff but now starting to use it more.  Just ran
> through a tutorial for spice simulation to learn more.
>
> --
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It's been years since I looked at gEDA. Back then (6-8 years ago)
there was little integration among the tools. Is it still the case? By
the way, I visited the gEDA.org and "open collector" sites and that's
the impression that I's still getting.

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Re: Option to select desktop

2009-07-27 Thread Kam Leo
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 8:39 AM, stan wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:23:44 +0530
> RAMAKISHOREBABU KOPPULA  wrote:
>
>> Thank you for the reply. I have installed 'switchdesk' package and
>> also created the /etc/sysconfig.desktop file, but it not working.
>>
>> What should I do next?
>
> Provide more information.
>
> What version of Fedora are you running? 10, 11, ??
>
> Which desktop environments have you installed?  Gnome, KDE, XFCE, ??
>
> What is your default login? Gnome, KDE, XFCE, ??
>
> Did you install clean or upgrade to your current version?
>
> Was it from a LiveCD, DVD, network, etc.?
>
> Anything else you think is relevant.  i.e. any manually changed
> configuration files, outside packages, etc.
>
> The above will mainly establish whether you have any alternatives.
>
> I probably won't be able to help, but with the information someone else
> might be able to see what is wrong.

The Gnome Desktop Manager (GDM) used to present a button (Session)
that was visible on the login screen. With F11 the button is now
hidden until a user name is clicked. Click a user name or "other" and
a desktop configuration menu should appear at the bottom of the
screen. Clicking on the "Gnome" portion of "Sessions: Gnome" should
present a pop-up list of the installed desktops.

By the way, the new configuration menu is poorly implemented.
"Language", "Keyboard", and "Sessions:" are all scrunched up on the
800x600 default setting of my display. Some things don't get better
with time. Please go back to the old GDM look and feel of F8.

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Re: Upgrade

2009-07-27 Thread Kam Leo
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Mick Cagney wrote:
> I have finally managed to install Fedora Core 2 onto a system, after several
> failed attempts at getting the Live version of fedora 10 to boot. Other than
> ver 2 there is nothing on this system, it is a brand new HDD. Now itšll go
> online so am I better installing ver 11 or upgrading, and how should I go
> about it.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> mickc

First, if you can not get F10 Live-CD to boot you may be bucking up
against insufficient installed memory. Other possibility is
incompatible graphics card or incorrect graphics card detection. Make
sure that the system has 512 MB of memory (bloating requirement for
all Gnome and KDE desktop installations since Fedora Core 6). If you
do not have or can not install a minimum of 512 MB of RAM then do not
bother with installing Gnome or KDE. Use XFce desktop or a run text
only.

Second, no point in doing an upgrade of FC2. Go straight to and
perform a new install of F11 over FC2 . Too much has changed between
kernels, file systems (LVM and ext4), and applications (Xorg-x11, open
office, Gnome, KDE, etc.) since FC2.

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Re: grub: splash screen resolution

2009-07-28 Thread Kam Leo
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 1:27 AM, François
Patte wrote:
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>
> Bonjour,
>
> A small problem: I have a 1400x900 monitor on my laptop, so the grug
> splashcreen spread on it is ugly
>
> Is there a command to add at the grub.conf file to get a better
> resolution for the splashscreen..
>
> Thank you.
>
> - --
> François Patte

Try appending a "vga=341" to the kernel stanza of grub. Get other
supported vga values by entering "vga=ask".

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Re: KpackageKit error: Repository configuration was invalid

2009-07-28 Thread Kam Leo
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-07-28 at 09:53 -0700, Keith wrote:
>> Linuxguy123 wrote:
>
>> >
>> > a) I don't have a repository called "InstallMedia".
>> >
>> > b) Its highly annoying that this error keeps popping up and that it
>> > can't be turned off.  It was appearing the other day too and I finally
>> > turned it off by turning off the yum-updatesd service.  But now it seems
>> > to appear even though that is turned off. FRUSTRATING !
>> >
>> > I've done a yum clean all and yum clean expire-cache.  It still occurs.
>> >
>> > How do I fix this ?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> >
>>  It is looking for a install drive like a DVD or CD-rom. You need to go
>> into your settings and turn it off.
>>
>
> I looked in kpackagekit->settings->Origins of Packages and I don't have
> anything to disable that looks related to a DVD or CDROM.  Any ideas ?
>
> Thanks for the reply !
>
> LG

Edit /etc/yum.repos.d/Fedora-install-media.repo. Change to "enabled=1"
to "enabled=0".

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Re: grub: splash screen resolution

2009-07-28 Thread Kam Leo
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote:
> Kam Leo wrote:
>> Try appending a "vga=341" to the kernel stanza of grub. Get other
>> supported vga values by entering "vga=ask".

Oops, the values should be preceded by "0x", i.e. "vga=0x341" since
the values are hexadecimal.

>
>
> That's for kernel resolution, which is applied right after grub.
> François is talking about grub itself, however.
>
> I don't think it's possible to change grub's resolution but if there's a
> way, I'd like to know too.

GRUB has no splash screen. If I am not mistaken, François is referring
to the splash screen created by rhgb (red hat graphical boot). The
"vga=" kernel parameter controls the screen resolution during boot and
up through the presentation of the login screen.

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Re: grub: splash screen resolution

2009-07-28 Thread Kam Leo
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Kam Leo wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Frank Cox wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:03:09 -0700
>> Kam Leo wrote:
>>
>>
>>> GRUB has no splash screen.
>>
>> Grub has a splash screen.
>>
>> See the the splashimage directive in grub.conf.
>
> I stand corrected. It is the background image for the grub menu. It is
> 640x480 pixels.
>

More information regarding GRUB splash screen image characteristics:
Maximum size is 640x480 pixels. Maximum number of colors is 14.

That makes sense since the lowest common denominator (mode) for video
adapters is VGA.

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Re: Fedora 11 upgrade, sound solved

2009-07-28 Thread Kam Leo
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Tarun Ramakrishna wrote:
> Half the people who are having sound problems are removing pulseaudio
> un-necessarily. As discovered several times already, the mixer setting is at
> zero. (I had the same problem too)
>

I followed the links provided in the original post and found the wiki,
http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/BrokenSoundDrivers , where they enumerated
various sound cards that do not work with PA. My sound device,
snd-ens1371, happens to be one of the broken ones.  Only way I can get
sound is to remove Pulse Audio.

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Re: Removing Pulse Audio

2009-08-04 Thread Kam Leo
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 11:25 AM, James
Allsopp wrote:
> Hi,
> Won't this leave remnants all over my system, are there any configs I
> need to change, I'm using gnome.
>
> Thanks
> James

Aaron's suggestion only removes alsa-plugins-pulseaudio. It removes no
other packages. Pulseaudio and other installed pulseaudio packages
such as pulseaudio-utils will still remain.

If you do a " yum remove pulseaudio\*" yum will show you a list of
packages to be removed. If you do not like what is being removed press
"n" to cancel.

Just so you know, removing pulseaudio also removes the master volume
control for Gnome. [It shouldn't matter much to you since pulseaudio
is not working.]

P.S. Please read the list guide lines. Do no top post. Put your
replies below the message. Also trim off excess.

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Re: F11: LiveCD problems

2009-08-10 Thread Kam Leo
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Tim wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 15:35 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
>> But it could not locate:
>>
>> /dev/sda1-15  (Seagate 1TB SATA disk) [Fedora/Ubuntu/Debian] (BRAND
>> NEW)
>>
>> The 1TB drive already has F8 & F9 installed.
>
> Can you say what SATA hardware you have?  Someone with the same chipset
> may have advice.
>
SATA has a maximum partition limit of 15.
How many partitions did you create on sda1?

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Re: F10 > F11 issues

2009-08-11 Thread Kam Leo
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:49:35 +0100, Tom wrote:
>
>>
>> >
>> > What do you get for  rpm -qa kernel\*  ?
>> >
>>
>> # rpm -qa kernel\*
>> kernel-2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686
>> kernel-devel-2.6.26.5-45.fc9.i686
>> kernel-headers-2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10.i386
>> kernel-PAE-2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10.i686
>> kernel-firmware-2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10.noarch
>> kerneloops-0.12-2.fc10.i386
>> kernel-2.6.26.5-45.fc9.i686
>> kernel-xen-2.6.25.3-2.fc9.i686
>
>  (!)
>
>> kernel-2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10.i686
>> kernel-devel-2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686
>> kernel-devel-2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10.i686
>>
>> > $ rpm -q --conflicts DeviceKit-disks-004-4.fc11.i586
>> > kernel < 2.6.26
>
> The kernel-xen above is lower than 2.6.26 and causes the conflict.
> You need to remove it prior to the upgrade: rpm --erase kernel-xen
>

While you are in the erasing mode, get rid of the F9 kernels and all
except for the single F10 kernel that you are using. After you
complete your upgrade to F11 erase the last F10 kernel pacakges. No
sense filling up /boot with obsolete packages.

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Re: How to check

2009-08-14 Thread Kam Leo
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 1:17 AM, Clarence Huang wrote:
> How to make my own network stability?
>
>  Because I surf on the Internet by  using  Fedora 10 and doing  yum
> update on the terminal , sometimes a sudden break, or become unusually
> slow network.
>
>  So would like to ask , how to make my network more stable and will
> not suddenly become unusually slow, or no warning of the disconnection
>

Tell us how is your computer connected. Are you using DSL, cable
modem, or dial-up? Is that connection shared with other computers,
i.e. is it part of a network?

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Re: Panorama photos

2009-08-17 Thread Kam Leo
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Monday 17 August 2009 02:11:45 amit rp wrote:
>> since Canon Camera software is not compatible with Fedora10 686i, for
>> attaching two or more photoes to make Panorama; what should I do?
>
> Please, if replying from a digest, remember to change the subject line.
> Thanks for trimming, though.
>
> Look into hugin which I believe is software specifically for joining photos to
> create panorama pics.
>
> Anne

Use GIMP to stitch your photos together.

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Re: capital letters in firefox

2009-08-18 Thread Kam Leo
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Germán Racca wrote:
> Hello people:
>
> I don't know what I did, but firefox is showing text in capital letters
> in most of the pages, and this is irritating! How to back to 'normal'
> behavior?
>
> Here are some useful screenshots, you can compare with the sites seen in
> your own web browser:
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/gracca/cositas
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Germán.

Check the default font setting for Firefox.

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Re: capital letters in firefox

2009-08-18 Thread Kam Leo
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Germán Racca wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 10:19 -0700, Kam Leo wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Germán Racca wrote:
>> > Hello people:
>> >
>> > I don't know what I did, but firefox is showing text in capital letters
>> > in most of the pages, and this is irritating! How to back to 'normal'
>> > behavior?
>> >
>> > Here are some useful screenshots, you can compare with the sites seen in
>> > your own web browser:
>> >C
>> > http://picasaweb.google.com/gracca/cositas
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance,
>> > Germán.
>>
>> Check the default font setting for Firefox.
>
> The fonts are the default fonts for Firefox.
> G.

What are the defaults?

Check Firefox Preferences->Content->Fonts & Colors->Advanced

What fonts are selected for "Proportional", "Serif", etc,

Is the box for "Allow pages to choose their own fonts ..." checked?

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Re: capital letters in firefox

2009-08-18 Thread Kam Leo
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Germán Racca wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 11:41 -0700, Kam Leo wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Germán Racca wrote:
>> > On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 10:19 -0700, Kam Leo wrote:
>> >> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Germán Racca 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Hello people:
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't know what I did, but firefox is showing text in capital letters
>> >> > in most of the pages, and this is irritating! How to back to 'normal'
>> >> > behavior?
>> >> >
>> >> > Here are some useful screenshots, you can compare with the sites seen in
>> >> > your own web browser:
>> >> >C
>> >> > http://picasaweb.google.com/gracca/cositas
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks in advance,
>> >> > Germán.
>> >>
>> >> Check the default font setting for Firefox.
>> >
>> > The fonts are the default fonts for Firefox.
>> > G.
>>
>> What are the defaults?
>>
>> Check Firefox Preferences->Content->Fonts & Colors->Advanced
>>
>> What fonts are selected for "Proportional", "Serif", etc,
>>
>> Is the box for "Allow pages to choose their own fonts ..." checked?
>>
>
> I have never changed Firefox fonts, so for me these are the default
> fonts:
>
> Fonts for: Westren
> Proportional: Serif
> Serif: serif
> Sans-serif: sans-serif
> Monospace: monospace
>
> Yes, "Allow pages to choose their own fonts ..." is checked.
>
> Thank you,
> Germán.

What happens if you select a different font, e.g. Bitstream Charter?

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Re: [OT] Run LiveUSB on machine that can't boot from usbkey?

2009-08-29 Thread Kam Leo
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 2:47 PM, jackson byers wrote:
>> I have an old laptop that I use for testing new versions of Fedora - however
>> although it will boot of a physical CD containing a LiveCD (say of F12
>> Alpha), it is old enough not to be able to boot off usb devices since the
>> BIOS is not arranged to do so. So a usbkey that contains a LiveCD that works
>> perfectly well on other machines won't play on this particular machine
>> (Fijitsu-Siemens Amilo D 6800)
>
>> Can anyone point me to a reference to work around this by booting off say an
>> altered grub stansa in the HD which then refers to a plugged in usbkey to
>> continue loading the LiveCD files from the usbkey? Or something similar?
>
> Mike,
> maybe my experience with booting from an external usb disk will help.
> I also wasn't
> "able to boot off usb devices since the BIOS is not arranged to do so"
> [either that or I am too dense to properly fiddle with the BIOS].
>
> So, what I did was copy the vmlinuz, initrd.img somewhere
> onto  my internal HDisks, specifically in my case on /dev/sdb1.
> Here is my grub.conf stanza for f10 booting off of the 2nd partition
> of my usbdisk, [label rootusb2]
>
> #24...68 ->  29..78
> title Fedora (2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10.i686)usb2new TEST bootf10usb2     
> vga=795
>        root (hd1,0) #sdb1
>        kernel /bootf10usb2/vmlinuz-2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10.i686 ro
> root=UUID=8f24a787-132c-4dc8-9126-9d85292e349f quiet vga=795
>        initrd /bootf10usb2/initrd-2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10.i686.img
>
>
> I also did this recently with an f11 hdinstall into usb3.
>
> Detail:
> my usb disk is seen as sdc when booted up into my my main f10 on sda1
> but when this bootf10usb2 boots it is seen as sda2, i.e,
> disk order is reordered to    usb=sda, hd1=sdb, hd2=sdc.
>
> from blkid run from my mainf10on sda1:
> /dev/sdc2: LABEL="rootusb2"
> UUID="8f24a787-132c-4dc8-9126-9d85292e349f" TYPE="ext3"
>
>
> However, this does not affect the "root (hd1,0)" for sdb1
> ie that retains nonreorderd syntax,
> even though when booted up f10usb2 sees sdb1 as sdc1.
>
> This solution is not perfect of course.
> I can't just take this external usb as is
> to another computer and have this f10usb2 boot up
> because the kernel, initrd can't be found.
>
> HTH
> Jack

Try UNETBOOTIN, http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/

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Re: gdm login has no keyboard , session , windows manager menu

2009-09-01 Thread Kam Leo
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:42 AM, Eric
Doutreleau wrote:
> Hi
>
> i have just installed a fedora 11 laptop.
> but when i got the login screen
> i don't get any keybord session or window mamanger menu in the down bar
> i only have the accessibility menu and the clock.
>
> does someone know how to solve that problem?
>
> i use gdm-2.26.1-13.fc11.i586

These options appear after you select a user or "Other".

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Re: "open terminal window here"

2009-09-01 Thread Kam Leo
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 6:23 PM, fred smith wrote:
> A while back I had an applet that inserted itself in the right-click
> context menu and allowed you to right-click a folder (in nautilus)
> and have it open a terminal window in the clicked-on-folder. Something
> like the windows power toy for the same purpose.
>
> I can't recall whether it was F10 or Centos, and I've rebuilt both
> machines so now I can't find it again.
>
> Anybody know where I can find it?
>
> Thanks!

That option has removed as a default since FC6.  Install
nautilus-open-terminal to get the command to appear in Gnome's
right-click menu.

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Re: X wont start for install on an hp pavilion HDX-16 1370us

2009-09-02 Thread Kam Leo
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Kevin Kempter wrote:
>> Hi all;
>>
>> My son bought an hp Pavilion (HDX-16 1370us) laptop, with a 16" screen.
>>
>> Upon trying to start the anaconda installer Fedora 10 says 'X failed to start
>> reverting back to text mode"
>>
>>
>> Thoughts? anyone have any hp experience similar they can share (hopefully 
>> with
>> solutions)?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>>
> Well  I've had this problem beforebut it wasn't on HP and it
> wasn't recent enough for me to recall anything other than I completed
> the install in text mode and then found/fixed the issue later.
> Basicallylogging in in text mode, give a startx, and looking in
> /var/log/Xorg.0.log to find out what went wrong and fixing it

Anaconda did not find a suitable driver. It's happened before on other
systems. Do as Ed recommends and complete the text mode installation.
Before you go slogging through the log files do the following:

yum upgrade
yum install system-config-display
system-config-display --reconfig

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Re: X wont start for install on an hp pavilion HDX-16 1370us

2009-09-02 Thread Kam Leo
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Kam Leo wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> Kevin Kempter wrote:
>>> Hi all;
>>>
>>> My son bought an hp Pavilion (HDX-16 1370us) laptop, with a 16" screen.
>>>
>>> Upon trying to start the anaconda installer Fedora 10 says 'X failed to 
>>> start
>>> reverting back to text mode"
>>>
>>>
>>> Thoughts? anyone have any hp experience similar they can share (hopefully 
>>> with
>>> solutions)?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance
>>>
>>>
>> Well  I've had this problem beforebut it wasn't on HP and it
>> wasn't recent enough for me to recall anything other than I completed
>> the install in text mode and then found/fixed the issue later.
>> Basicallylogging in in text mode, give a startx, and looking in
>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log to find out what went wrong and fixing it
>
> Anaconda did not find a suitable driver. It's happened before on other
> systems. Do as Ed recommends and complete the text mode installation.
> Before you go slogging through the log files do the following:
>
> yum upgrade
> yum install system-config-display
> system-config-display --reconfig
>

It's late and I'm not thinking as clearly as I should be. The best
reference is the F11 Installation Guide:
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f11/en-US/html-single/#d0e6884

Go to "8.2.1. Problems with Booting into the Graphical Installation"

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Re: Disappearing Kernels during Yum update

2009-09-03 Thread Kam Leo
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Steven F. LeBrun wrote:
> Over the past few weeks there have been kernel updates for Fedora 11.
>
> When my system receives updates, usually using yumex, and a new kernel is
> installed, the oldest kernel in my /boot directory is deleted automatically
> and any "title" commands in /boot/grub/grub.conf referring to those kernels
> is also removed.  There are only three kernels at a time in my /boot
> directory.
>
> So far this has not been a problem, though I almost lost some special
> settings in my grub.conf file when old kernels were removed.
>
> My questions:
>
> What controls how many kernels, vmlinuz and associated files, are kept in
> the /boot directory?
>
> Is there any way to change this to save a different number of kernels or
> insure that a specific kernel is not automatically removed from your system?
>
> --
>   Steven F. LeBrun

Your request is showing a troubling trend among posters on this list.
Many do not make use of the fabulous search engines provided by the
likes of Yahoo, Microsoft, or Google.

The other trend is that many do not bother to look at installed documentation.

Please do a "man yum.conf" and "man yum" to learn about the most
important utility in your toolbox. Then edit /etc/yum.conf and change
the value for "installonly_limit"

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Re: Disappearing Kernels during Yum update

2009-09-04 Thread Kam Leo
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 5:10 AM, Steven F. LeBrun wrote:
> On 09/04/2009 01:04 AM, Kam Leo wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Steven F. LeBrun wrote:
>
>
> Over the past few weeks there have been kernel updates for Fedora 11.
>
> When my system receives updates, usually using yumex, and a new kernel is
> installed, the oldest kernel in my /boot directory is deleted automatically
> and any "title" commands in /boot/grub/grub.conf referring to those kernels
> is also removed.  There are only three kernels at a time in my /boot
> directory.
>
> So far this has not been a problem, though I almost lost some special
> settings in my grub.conf file when old kernels were removed.
>
> My questions:
>
> What controls how many kernels, vmlinuz and associated files, are kept in
> the /boot directory?
>
> Is there any way to change this to save a different number of kernels or
> insure that a specific kernel is not automatically removed from your system?
>
> --
>   Steven F. LeBrun
>
>
> Your request is showing a troubling trend among posters on this list.
> Many do not make use of the fabulous search engines provided by the
> likes of Yahoo, Microsoft, or Google.
>
> The other trend is that many do not bother to look at installed
> documentation.
>
> Please do a "man yum.conf" and "man yum" to learn about the most
> important utility in your toolbox. Then edit /etc/yum.conf and change
> the value for "installonly_limit"
>
>
>
> I apologize for not reading all the manpages before posting.  I did not
> suspect that the issue was with yum itself since I had not made any explicit
> configuration changes to it in over a year and three versions of Fedora.  My
> assumption was that it was a grub or rpm issue  or possibly a kernel
> configuration issue and the man pages for these did not show any indication
> for the change in behavior.
>
> This brings up another question, why is installonly_limit set to 3 in my
> yum.conf file when the manpage for yum.conf states that the default is 0
> (disable).  As I stated above, I have not changed any settings in yum.conf.
>
> This indicates that there is a discrepancy between the manpages and the
> actual behavior.
>
> After reading your response to my post, I did another Google search on this
> issue.  Even after adding the keyword yum to my search, I did not come up
> with a single hit that mentioned that yum did the deletion of the older
> kernels or of the installonly_limit parameter in yum.conf.  I humbly ask
> what key words you would have used in your search for this information,
> especially assuming that you did not suspect yum in the first place?
>
> BTW.  All the Google hits that I read that included yum as a keyword were
> asking or responding to how to manually remove older kernels after yum
> installed a newer kernel.

At times knowing too much can be detrimental to for a successful search.

"fedora number of kernels" got on target hits from Google and Yahoo.
Bing didn't do so well with that query string and required this
modified query, "fedora number of installed kernels", to get on target
hits.

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Re: F11 - Can't mount Sansa Fuze

2009-09-13 Thread Kam Leo
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 5:03 PM, john wendel  wrote:
>
> Something seems to be broken...  No device created when I plug in my Sansa
> Fuze. Worked in the past (can't exactly remember the last time I used it). I
> see in the messages file that USB sees the device correctly, maybe a udev
> problem?
>
> USB memory sticks work OK. Clues appreciated.
>
> John

Try LOCK on and pressing left arrow when plugging device in to USB port.

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Re: F11 - Can't mount Sansa Fuze

2009-09-13 Thread Kam Leo
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Tim  wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 01:08 -0700, Kam Leo wrote:
>> Try LOCK on and pressing left arrow when plugging device in to USB
>> port.
>
> I'm curious how you came to know that pressing those keys did anything
> special.

Searched SanDisk support when I had problems connecting my various
Sansa players.  Also got info from forums at Rockbox.org.

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Re: Can't upgrade f10 to f11: X startup failed, detected GPU lockup

2009-09-14 Thread Kam Leo
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Deron Meranda  wrote:
> I'm trying to install/upgrade a system currently running F10 to F11
> (64-bit AMD, 4MB ram).
>
> The anaconda graphical install fails, and it always falls back to
> the text mode install.  I have to use the graphical mode, because
> I need partitioning/LVM/LUKS options that the text mode
> does not support.
>
> This system worked fine with both F9 and F10.  I'm using the
> on-board graphics chip on the motherboard (ASUS M2NBP-VM CSM)
> which is supposedly an nVidia GeForce 6150LE.
>
>
> Anyway during the early F11 anaconda install it always outputs:
>  WARNING :  X startup failed, falling back to text mode
>
> Looking at the X.log file, I have these excerpts:
>
>  X.log 
> Kernel command line: initrd=initrd.img BOOT_IMAGE=vmlinuz
> Build Date: 18 May 2009  02:47:15PM
> Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.6.1.901-1.fc11
> 
> (--) PCI:*(0...@0:5:0) nVidia Corporation C51 [Quadro NVS 210S/GeForce 
> 6150LE] rev
> 162, Mem @ 0xfc00/16777216, 0xd000/268435456, 0xfb00/16777216, 
> BIOS
> @ 0x/131072
> 
> (II) NOUVEAU driver
> (II) NOUVEAU driver for NVIDIA chipset families :
>        GeForce 6   (NV4x)
> 
> (--) NOUVEAU(0): Chipset: "NVIDIA NV4E"
> 
> (II) NOUVEAU(0): Setting dpms mode 3 on vga encoder (output 0)
> (II) NOUVEAU(0): Setting dpms mode 3 on tmds encoder (output 1)
> (II) NOUVEAU(0): Setting dpms mode 3 on CRTC 0
> (II) NOUVEAU(0): Setting dpms mode 3 on CRTC 1
> (II) NOUVEAU(0): Setting dpms mode 3 on CRTC 0
>
> Fatal server error:
> Detected GPU lockup
>
>  End X.log 
>
>
> Does anybody have any idea what may have changed in F11, and how
> I can get the graphical installer to run like it did in previous releases?
> --
> Deron Meranda

Have you tried installing with vga=vesa?  If I recall correctly you
need to press TAB and append that to grub.

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