Re: Question about dist-cvs make targets

2010-01-07 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
 DC == David Cantrell dcantr...@redhat.com writes:

DC I was using 'unused-patches' until the packaging guidelines had us
DC change Patch lines to use %{name} if that applied.

Please quote chapter and verse there.  I don't recall any guidelines
requiring such a thing.

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RE: help

2010-01-07 Thread Joseph L. Casale
we at work have some PC's with 256 MB RAM, the graphical mode doesn't load, so 
we choice the text mode, but in all machines we get the same error, Anaconda 
12.47

do you have an idea how to solve it?

Yeah, add ram. Anaconda needs like 1/2 gig, and nevermind trying to
Fedora w/  1/2gig as well...

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Problem building on rawhide

2010-01-04 Thread Rick L. Vinyard, Jr.
No problems building on F12, F11 and EL5.

Here's the build log:
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=1901276name=build.log

But, the short version is that I'm getting a ton of this error on rawhide
only: Cannot utime: Bad file descriptor

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Re: Problem building on rawhide

2010-01-04 Thread Rick L. Vinyard, Jr.
Never mind. Seems to be building now.


Rick L. Vinyard, Jr. wrote:
 No problems building on F12, F11 and EL5.

 Here's the build log:
 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=1901276name=build.log

 But, the short version is that I'm getting a ton of this error on rawhide
 only: Cannot utime: Bad file descriptor

 Any suggestions?



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Re: GRUB2?

2009-12-29 Thread David L
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Eric Brunson brun...@brunson.com wrote:
 Is it in the roadmap to move from GRUB Legacy to GRUB2?

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Grub2


Ubuntu uses grub2 already.  I'm sure it's got some
great new features, but for my purposes, it's a bit
less convenient.  I often edit my grub.conf one
one partition when I'm booted to another partition
(I use chainloading a lot).  If I understand it correctly,
with grub2, you have to run a command after editing
the configuration file to properly create another
configuration file.  I guess it's no big deal, but it
takes some getting used to.

Cheers

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evolution 2.28.2 still can't connect to exchange server 2007

2009-12-28 Thread L
One of main reasons for upgrade  F11 to F12 was to hope to connect
evolution 2.28 to Exchange 2007. After a smooth upgrade to F12. I
tried to connect evolution 2.28 with evo-mapi to M$ exchange server.
no luck at all, it crashed every time.

Someone suggested that evo 2.28.1 and evo-mapi-0.28.1 may work well.
Now, I have evo upgraded to 2.28.2, I still can't connect evo to
exchange server 2007. EVO crashed when I tried to create a evo-mapi
account (at the step of authentication).

File a bug as #550592

hope some one found  a fix.

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SMS client for linux?

2009-12-16 Thread L
Hi,

I have a vodafone wireless broadband dongle. This prepaid package
comes with 15 free SMS. NM on F12 is great to connect it. my question
is that, is there a tool to send/receive  SMS on linux? The vodafone
connect kit for windows includes a SMS client to send and receive SMS.
I don't want waste 15 SMS, Could any one know an equivalent tool for
linux?

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Re: SMS client for linux?

2009-12-16 Thread L
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote:
 Once upon a time, L yuan...@gmail.com said:
 I have a vodafone wireless broadband dongle. This prepaid package
 comes with 15 free SMS. NM on F12 is great to connect it. my question
 is that, is there a tool to send/receive  SMS on linux? The vodafone
 connect kit for windows includes a SMS client to send and receive SMS.
 I don't want waste 15 SMS, Could any one know an equivalent tool for
 linux?

 Gnokii is a cell phone tool that can send and receive SMS, if your cell
 interface presents a serial port to Linux (my phone for example presents
 two).  It takes a little bit of configuration in /etc/gnokiirc but works
 okay.

 I use the gnokii-smsd daemon to send text messages from other programs
 (like Nagios).
 --

This Wireless broadband dongle connects to linux via USB. I will give it a shot.


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 Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
 I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.

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Re: SMS client for linux?

2009-12-16 Thread L
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Sam Sharpe lists.red...@samsharpe.net wrote:
 2009/12/16 Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net:
 Once upon a time, L yuan...@gmail.com said:
 I have a vodafone wireless broadband dongle. This prepaid package
 comes with 15 free SMS. NM on F12 is great to connect it. my question
 is that, is there a tool to send/receive  SMS on linux? The vodafone
 connect kit for windows includes a SMS client to send and receive SMS.
 I don't want waste 15 SMS, Could any one know an equivalent tool for
 linux?

 Gnokii is a cell phone tool that can send and receive SMS, if your cell
 interface presents a serial port to Linux (my phone for example presents
 two).  It takes a little bit of configuration in /etc/gnokiirc but works
 okay.

 This isn't a cell-phone its a standalone dongle for just 3G/HSPDA
 connections. That's not to say that gnokii or Gammu won't do this.

 Would this help?

 http://www.vodafonebetavine.net/bvportal/resources/datacards


thanks, I had this vodafone-mobile-connect-card-driver-for-linux
prior to NM. Now, NM does a very good job. I prefer connection via NM.
when the wireless broadband dongle connected via NM,
vodafone-mobile-connect-card-driver-for-linux can not be started.
That's why I look  for a alternative SMS client




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Re: How to make a Huawei 1692 3g card work

2009-12-13 Thread L
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Antonio M antonio.montagn...@gmail.com wrote:
 I cannot make it work any more, it was working in F11 with this
 usb_modeswitch.conf file:

 # Huawei E1692

 DefaultVendor=  0x12d1
 DefaultProduct= 0x1446

 TargetVendor=   0x12d1
 TargetProduct=  0x140c

 MessageEndpoint=0x01
 MessageContent=55534243001106

 CheckSuccess=5

 Now I get:

 Looking for target devices ...
  No devices in target mode or class found
 Looking for default devices ...
  Found default devices (1)
 Accessing device 008 on bus 002 ...
 Using endpoints 0x01 (out) and 0x81 (in)
 Inquiring device details; driver will be detached ...
 Looking for active driver ...
  No driver found. Either detached before or never attached

 My Fedora is fully updated..

 Any idea


on my F12 X86_64, I use NetworkManager to connect  HUAWEI E682. It
seems very easy.



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Re: Need a sponsor: mod_proxy_html (apache)

2009-12-10 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
 MB == Mat Booth fed...@matbooth.co.uk writes:

MB Here is a list of review requests that are not yet assigned to a
MB reviewer:

Rather than huge bugzilla queries, why not just
http://fedoraproject.org/PackageReviewStatus/ ?

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No sound after upgrade from 11 to 12

2009-12-08 Thread Joseph L. Casale
I have an HP DV6-1030ca, I could get sound with an alsa fix in F11 by creating 
an
/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf with 'options snd-hda-intel model=hp-m4 
enable_msi=1'
but his no longer works in 12, I have tried every incantation I could scour on 
the net
for some time.

Anyone got a hint?

Thanks!
jlc

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Tiff files frmo xsane arent usable in windows

2009-12-06 Thread Joseph L. Casale
I scanned a sh!tload of docs and saved as tiff files, then scp'ed these across 
the wire
to another linux box that has a windows user who needs these images. Problem 
is, that
windows user, nor me on a windows box here can open these files?

Anyone know why, and if there is a batch image conversion I can do that wont 
affect the
quality on the remote lniux box so I don't have to re-upload all these files?

Thanks!
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RE: Tiff files frmo xsane arent usable in windows

2009-12-06 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Can you open the files on a Linux computer?  If so, then the files are fine.  
At that point you need to find a good tiff file viewer (or
whatever) for Windows.  Which isn't a Linux issue, actually.

Yeah, it seems whatever came out of xsane isn't compatible with the fax viewer 
in XP.

If you need a different format you could look at using imagemagick convert or 
maybe even something like tiff2pdf or tiff2ps depending on what you want.  
Once you have a pdf or ps file you could use pdftk or psnup (and psmerge and 
friends) to create books of your images, if you want.

mogrify batched them into a png which worked rather nice.
Thanks,
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internet connection sharing

2009-12-05 Thread Joseph L. Casale
In earlier releases of Fedora, I recall this being possible but not w/o some
extra work. In F12, is it actually as simple as the Redhat Magazine video 
suggests? Does simply
creating a wireless connection enable all required elements such as forwarding, 
dhcp etc for sharing
a wired connection out a wireless connection in ad-hoc mode?

When I create a connection set as Shared to other computers dnsmasq isn't 
started for example.
Searching the net yields a couple tutorials on this, but none dive nito any 
detail...

Thanks,
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Orphaning some packages...

2009-12-04 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
I'd like to turn over the following packages to someone else to maintain
since I have no time or interest in keeping up with them going forward:

 * rubygem-activeldap

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RE: xrandr w/ laptop and ext monitor

2009-12-02 Thread Joseph L. Casale
This little script does exactly that, for me:

#! /bin/bash
if
xrandr | grep VGA1 connected;
then
xrandr --output VGA1 --auto --output LVDS1 --off ; fi exit

Fantastic!
Thanks,
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Re: Troubleshout hibernate

2009-12-02 Thread L
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Nataraj incoming-fedora-l...@rjl.com wrote:
 On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 22:23 +0100, Eric Tanguy wrote:
 I try to hibernate my fedora 12 with nvidia driver from rpmfusion. The
 hibernate stage works fine. The problem is on resume. The system go back
 normally and the screen switch off and that's all. It seems the problem
 is well known but i can't find a solution or a troubleshout guide to
 find a solution. Someone could help me ?
 Thanks
 Eric


 I would try pm-hibernate with the --quirk-dpms-on option first, and if
 that doesn't work, add the --quirk-s3-bios option.  See the man page for
 more details.  This also applies to pm-suspend.

 /usr/sbin/pm-hibernate --quirk-dpms-on --quirk-s3-bios

where to set this in gnome appliet (power management?) for suspend/hibernate?


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xrandr w/ laptop and ext monitor

2009-12-01 Thread Joseph L. Casale
I have an HP laptop w/ an Intel chipset and am trying to clone the laptop 
display to an
external lcd but not having luck. I want it to appear exactly as is (task bar 
etc) but with
the obviously different resolution, can anyone point me to a doc that suggests 
this config
versus that of extending etc?

Thanks!
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RE: xrandr w/ laptop and ext monitor

2009-12-01 Thread Joseph L. Casale
What you *can* do is to make them both have the same resolution, and X can do 
this for you, by choosing the highest resolution common to both VGA and LVDS.
However, don't be surprised if that turns out to be 1024x768 or even 800x600.

Ughh, that's sad:)

The other possibility is to have two *different* outputs (not cloned, but 
adjacent, as is being setup as default in F12), and setup the user interface 
of your DE to look the same. If you use KDE, it is easy, just add appropriate 
widgets (panel and all) on the VGA display, set up a background, etc. I don't 
know about Gnome and other DE's, but I guess it's possible there, too.

Well that does help, but it's unfortunate, I have done this in windows for 
eons...

Is it possible to create the default whereby the builtin LVD is then turned off 
if the external LVD or VGA is connected?
This would accomplish what I need equally well.

Thanks for the informative reply,
jlc

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f12 boot problem

2009-11-30 Thread David L
I just built a system with these components:

EVGA GT220 1GB PCI-Express Video Card
http://www.frys.com/product/6054898

Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P AMD 790X + SB750
http://www.frys.com/product/5928114

AMD Phenom II 965
http://www.frys.com/product/6071348

Since I didn't receive my hard drives or optical drives yet,
I tried Fedora 12 Live USB booting this system to test it.

It dies during boot (or at least the video is screwed up,
I can't tell for sure if it's completely dead).  The last thing
it prints is this:

pci :00:00.0: BAR 3: address space collision on of device
[0xe000-0x]
[drm] nouveau :01:00.0: Pointer to BIT loadval table invalid
[drm] nouveau :01:00.0: 0xD6B5: Init table command not found: 0x8C
[drm] nouveau :01:00.0: 0xDEA4: Init table command not found: 0x00


I tried 32 and 64 bit Live USBs and I tried nomodeset.

I'm assuming the problem is related to the video card based
on the last messages I see, but I'm not sure.

I thought I had screwed up something when I built this system,
so I tried Mythbuntu 9.10 Live USB... that worked
perfectly.  This is going to be a Mythbuntu system anyway, so
it's not a big deal that it doesn't work in Fedora.  But I will file
a bug report if somebody tells me what to file it against and what
additional information to provide (and how to get that information
from a hung live USB boot environment).  I had to take a picture
of the screen to get the above information because it only
shows up for about 0.5 seconds before the screen blanks.

Regards,

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Sirius Player

2009-11-26 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Anyone know of a media player that supports Sirius with a slightly
better interface than Sipie?

Thanks!
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why evolution 2.28.1 not in fedora-update repo?

2009-11-25 Thread L
Hi

Evo 2.28.1 and evo-mapi 2.28.1 etc are built in this site
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=137236

why they are still not in fedora 12 update repo?

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Weird problem building zsh in local mock but not in koji

2009-11-24 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
I'm having a problem building the current zsh srpm
(zsh-4.3.10-4.fc13.src.rpm) on my local builder, which runs F11-x86_64
and has mock-0.9.18-1.fc11.noarch.  On IRC, a user reported the same
problem, only his builder runs CentOS 5.4 and has
mock-0.9.14-2.el5.noarch.  Surprisingly, the same srpm will build fine
in koji.

I'm not sure how to describe the hang in enough detail without having to
understand the zsh test framework.  The bottom line is simply that one
of the tests just hangs.  It's doing some testing of the read builtin; I
believe it's one of these two stanzas which hangs, although output
buffering may make it difficult to be sure:

 read -d: foo:bar
 print $REPLY
0:read up to delimiter
foo

 print foo:bar|IFS=: read -A
 print $reply
0:use different, IFS separator to array
foo bar

The last thing in the build log is Running test: read up to delimiter.
ps just shows:

tibbs   9322  0.0  0.0 114684  1916 pts/3TN   12:39 00:00:00  
../Src/zsh +Z -f ./ztst.zsh ./B04read.ztst

wchan is signal_stop.  The process doesn't seem to be consuming any CPU,
but if I strace it, I get an endless stream of

ioctl(11, SNDCTL_TMR_STOP or TCSETSW, {B38400 opost isig -icanon echo...}) = ? 
ERESTARTSYS (To be restarted)
--- SIGTTOU (Stopped (tty output)) @ 0 (0) ---
--- SIGTTOU (Stopped (tty output)) @ 0 (0) ---


In koji there doesn't seem to be any delay at all running this test.
I'm stumped.

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Re: Weird problem building zsh in local mock but not in koji

2009-11-24 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
 RM == Roland McGrath rol...@redhat.com writes:

RM That is job control weirdness.  Something about the state of tty
RM magic is different in the two different contexts where you run the
RM test.

Unfortunately that level of magic is mostly beyond me.

RM The things to look at are whether the tests are using a
RM temporary pty

I do not really know how to determine that.  However, it simplifies
things to know that if there's any difference it's not in the spec but
in the environment in which mock is called.

RM and what 'ps j' says about all the processes involved
RM in the build/test (including mock and its layers of whatever before
RM the rpmbuild).

Here's the forest from px axjf (sorry for long lines):

23843 10479 10479 10479 ?   -1 SNs  0   0:00  \_ sshd: tibbs [priv]
10479 10486 10479 10479 ?   -1 SN7225   0:00  |   \_ sshd: 
ti...@pts/3
10486 10487 10487 10487 pts/310527 SNs   7225   0:00  |   \_ -zsh
10487 10527 10527 10487 pts/310527 SN+   7225   0:00  |   \_ 
/bin/bash /home/tibbs/bin/dobuild 
/home/tibbs/work/extras-cvs/zsh/devel/zsh-4.3.10-4.fc13.src.rpm
10527 10530 10527 10487 pts/310527 SN+   7225   0:02  |   \_ 
/usr/bin/python -tt /usr/sbin/mock -r fedora-rawhide-x86_64 -v --rebuild 
/home/tibbs/work/extras-cvs/zsh/devel/zsh-4.3.10-4.fc13.src.rpm
10530 13230 13230 10487 pts/310527 TN7225   0:00  |   |   
\_ rpmbuild -bb --target x86_64 --nodeps builddir/build/SPECS/zsh.spec
13230 28410 13230 10487 pts/310527 TN7225   0:00  |   | 
  \_ /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.5VZZeU
28410 28414 13230 10487 pts/310527 TN7225   0:00  |   | 
  \_ make test
28414 28415 13230 10487 pts/310527 TN7225   0:00  |   | 
  \_ /bin/sh -c cd Test ; make check
28415 28416 13230 10487 pts/310527 TN7225   0:00  |   | 
  \_ make check
28416 28505 13230 10487 pts/310527 TN7225   0:00  |   | 
  \_ /bin/sh -c if ZTST_testlist=`for f in ./*.ztst; \?
   do echo $f; done` \? ZTST_srcdir=. \? ZTST_exe=../Src/zsh \? ../Src/zsh 
+Z -f ./runtests.zsh; then \? sta
28505 28507 13230 10487 pts/310527 TN7225   0:00  |   | 
  \_ ../Src/zsh +Z -f ./runtests.zsh
28507 29888 13230 10487 pts/310527 TN7225   0:00  |   | 
  \_ ../Src/zsh +Z -f ./ztst.zsh ./B04read.ztst

Is any of that remotely helpful?  On the buildsys, a mock build (not for
zsh, but they should all start the same) looks sort of like this:

1  3056  3055  3055 ?   -1 S0 391:44 /usr/bin/python 
/usr/sbin/kojid --force-lock --verbose
 3056 17091 17091  3055 ?   -1 S0   0:07  \_ /usr/bin/python 
/usr/sbin/kojid --force-lock --verbose
17091 17272 17091  3055 ?   -1 S  101   0:01  \_ 
/usr/bin/python -tt /usr/sbin/mock -r koji/dist-f13-build-653289-93821 
--no-clean --target x86_64 --rebuild 
/mnt/koji/work/tasks/8377/1828377/kvirc-4.0.0-0.19.rc1.fc13.src.rpm
17272 25386 25386  3055 ?   -1 S  101   0:00  \_ rpmbuild 
-bb --target x86_64 --nodeps builddir/build/SPECS/kvirc.spec
25386 25413 25386  3055 ?   -1 S  101   0:00  \_ 
/bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.vzHree
25413 25917 25386  3055 ?   -1 S  101   0:00  \_ 
make -j4

and so on.  There are some obvious differences.

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Re: pdf editor to simply insert notes?

2009-11-23 Thread Trever L. Adams
Robert P. J. Day wrote:
   a colleague has a sizable book whose source is in docbook format,
 and i want to mark it up with notes all over the place.  with an odt
 or doc file, i would of course just open it in oowriter and insert
 notes at will.

   with docbook, though, he's going to send me the PDF format of the
 book, but i still don't know of a tool that will let me insert notes.
 i have no need for general editing, just notes.  thoughts?

 rday
   

You may want to look at xournal as well. At least I believe that is the
name. It will be close if it isn't. One of the things it specifically
does is annotate pdf files.

Trever



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how far from the arrive of evolution 2.28.1 for Fedora 12

2009-11-22 Thread L
Hi

I am wonder how far from the arrival of evolution 2.28.1 in F12. One
of main reasons to upgrade to F12, for me,  is that F12 shipped with
evo 2.28. People from Unbuntu use evo-2.28 (in fact evo 2.28.1)   and
evo-mapi to connect to exchange 2007. Unfortunately, current evo
2.28.0 can't connect to exchange 2007 (via evo-mapi). It crashes every
time.  Does any one know if F12 will upgrade evo 2.28.1 soon?

best

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Re: how far from the arrive of evolution 2.28.1 for Fedora 12

2009-11-22 Thread L
2009/11/22 Christoph Höger choe...@cs.tu-berlin.de:
 Am Sonntag, den 22.11.2009, 23:10 +1100 schrieb L:
 Hi

 I am wonder how far from the arrival of evolution 2.28.1 in F12. One
 of main reasons to upgrade to F12, for me,  is that F12 shipped with
 evo 2.28. People from Unbuntu use evo-2.28 (in fact evo 2.28.1)   and
 evo-mapi to connect to exchange 2007. Unfortunately, current evo
 2.28.0 can't connect to exchange 2007 (via evo-mapi). It crashes every
 time.  Does any one know if F12 will upgrade evo 2.28.1 soon?

 best

 Y

 As you can see here:

 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=175

 It has already been build (so feel free to test manually), but since
 this is roughly one month old, I guess that somewhere along the gnome
 stack there must be some breakage that prevents an update - maybe you
 simply ask the maintainer or open a feature request to track the
 progress.

thanks. I tried to manually upgrade some packages, but failed, some
rpms depend on evolution-data-server-doc-2.28.1, this seems not
available.

Where to make request? this may be a simple solution

best

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Question about tagging

2009-11-18 Thread Rick L. Vinyard, Jr.
I'm trying to build cairomm 1.8.4 in devel, but the tags that I get are
dist-f12, and when I try and actually do the build I get an error saying:

/usr/bin/koji  build  dist-f12
'cvs://cvs.fedoraproject.org/cvs/pkgs?rpms/cairomm/devel#cairomm-1_8_4-1_fc12'
Usage: koji build [options] target URL
(Specify the --help global option for a list of other help options)

koji: error: Destination tag dist-f12 is locked
make: *** [koji] Error 1


Shouldn't I be getting f13 tags with make tag?

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Re: Question about tagging

2009-11-18 Thread Rick L. Vinyard, Jr.
Michael Schwendt wrote:
 On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:53:16 -0700, Jr. wrote:

 Tom \spot\ Callaway wrote:
  On 11/18/2009 10:29 AM, Rick L. Vinyard, Jr. wrote:
  Shouldn't I be getting f13 tags with make tag?
 
  If you run: cvs update -d in the top level checkout directory, you
 will.
  ;)
 

 I did. What I generally run is 'cvs -PAd'

 I even removed the devel directory and re-checked it out by running 'cvs
 -PAd' in the top level directory.

 What about the common directory? That's the important one, one level
 above devel.

 $ cat cairomm/common/branches|grep devel
 devel:dist-f13:.fc13:fedora:13

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Re: Local users get to play root?

2009-11-18 Thread Rick L Vinyard Jr
Bill Nottingham wrote:
 Eric Christensen (e...@christensenplace.us) said: 
 It's a behavior change, for sure. For people who want to lock down their
 systems, it's a default they will need to be able to change, and they
 should have been able to discover it through the normal mechanisms for
 that. (i.e., the release notes.). It likely should have been discussed
 when it was introduced - it's obviously not something that's applicable
 to all usage cases for the OS.
 You are assuming that the users have physical access to the box and also
 know how to get a root shell and that the box hasn't been hardened
 (before the PK vulnerability was known).
 
 Sure, I said 'out of the box'. Out of the box none of those other
 hardening steps are done either, which is why if this is a policy
 that we want, it should be documented as a hardening step that can
 be taken.
 
 Bill
 

It would seem that a middle ground could be struck here. Why not set the
default to require admin privileges, and once the credentials have been
established provide a check box user choice to change to the behavior
that doesn't require privileges.

That way, out of the box it's a little more locked down, but easily
changeable. This is a common UI pattern that you can see in many
applications that have security implications... Firefox is a primary
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Re: Xwindow can't start after f12 preupgrade [SOLVED]

2009-11-18 Thread L
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 4:36 PM, L yuan...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 4:29 PM, L yuan...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 4:26 PM, L yuan...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Ron Siven rsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:20 PM, L yuan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi

 I update from F11 to F12 via preupdate. It seems doing well with
 installtion. after reboot, the X window can't be started. I boot this
 PC with USB-unbuntn, changed the


 id:5:initdefault: at /etc/inittab to

 id:3:initdefault:


 After started, to level 3, I looked around, unfortunately, I still
 can't find way to start X11.

 I tryied

 /sbin/init 3

 at level 3, I can login this PC from other PC

 /sbin/init 5

 PC just hold there, no response. I can't login this PC from  other
 networked PC

 hope some one can help

 Best

 Y

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 Did you try startx from the command line in run level 3?



 Yes, I tried it at console, but soon after enter
 startx

 the system was frozen and lost connect from other PC


 here are some lines from /var/log/Xorg.0.log

 grep -v (II) /var/log/Xorg.0.log


 forget about this Xorg log. In fact there was no Xorg log content
 after upgraded.



 this may be the righ log for Xorg

 in summary, there is no (EE) lines, here are (WW) lines

 (WW) Failed to open protocol names file /usr/lib/xorg/protocol.txt
        (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
 (WW) Falling back to old probe method for vesa
 (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fbdev
 (WW) intel(0): Disabling Xv because no adaptors could be initialized.



 sudo cat  /var/log/anaconda.xlog


 (WW) Failed to open protocol names file /usr/lib/xorg/protocol.txt
 X.Org X Server 1.7.1
 Release Date: 2009-10-23
 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
 Build Operating System:  2.6.18-164.2.1.el5
 Current Operating System: Linux localhost.localdomain
 2.6.31.5-127.fc12.i686 #1 SMP Sat Nov 7 21:41:45 EST 2009 i686
 Kernel command line: preupgrade repo=hd::/var/cache/yum/preupgrade
 stage2=hd:UUID=cc2a54a0-0706-4e74-834e-e8b042375861:/boot/upgrade/install.img
 ks=hd:UUID=cc2a54a0-0706-4e74-834e-e8b042375861:/boot/upgrade/ks.cfg
 Build Date: 05 November 2009  07:43:20PM
 Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.7.1-7.fc12
 Current version of pixman: 0.16.2
        Before reporting problems, check http://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/
        to make sure that you have the latest version.
 Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
        (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
        (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
 (++) Log file: /tmp/X.log, Time: Wed Nov 18 10:17:53 2009
 (II) Loader magic: 0x821b0a0
 (II) Module ABI versions:
        X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
        X.Org Video Driver: 6.0
        X.Org XInput driver : 7.0
        X.Org Server Extension : 2.0
 (++) using VT number 6

 (--) PCI:*(0:0:2:0) 8086:3582:103c:08bc Intel Corporation 82852/855GM
 Integrated Graphics Device rev 2, Mem @ 0x9800/134217728,
 0x9040/524288, I/O @ 0x2c30/8, BIOS @ 0x/131072
 (--) PCI: (0:0:2:1) 8086:3582:103c:08bc Intel Corporation 82852/855GM
 Integrated Graphics Device rev 2, Mem @ 0xa000/134217728,
 0x9048/524288, BIOS @ 0x/65536
 (==) Using default built-in configuration (30 lines)
 (==) --- Start of built-in configuration ---
        Section Device
                Identifier      Builtin Default intel Device 0
                Driver  intel
        EndSection
        Section Screen
                Identifier      Builtin Default intel Screen 0
                Device  Builtin Default intel Device 0
        EndSection
        Section Device
                Identifier      Builtin Default vesa Device 0
                Driver  vesa
        EndSection
        Section Screen
                Identifier      Builtin Default vesa Screen 0
                Device  Builtin Default vesa Device 0
        EndSection
        Section Device
                Identifier      Builtin Default fbdev Device 0
                Driver  fbdev
        EndSection
        Section Screen
                Identifier      Builtin Default fbdev Screen 0
                Device  Builtin Default fbdev Device 0
        EndSection
        Section ServerLayout
                Identifier      Builtin Default Layout
                Screen  Builtin Default intel Screen 0
                Screen  Builtin Default vesa Screen 0
                Screen  Builtin Default fbdev Screen 0
        EndSection
 (==) --- End of built-in configuration ---
 (==) ServerLayout Builtin Default Layout
 (**) |--Screen Builtin Default intel Screen 0 (0)
 (**) |   |--Monitor default monitor
 (**) |   |--Device Builtin Default intel Device 0
 (==) No monitor specified for screen

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] License tag to use for CC0 1.0 Universal?

2009-11-17 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
 TC == Tom \spot\ Callaway tcall...@redhat.com writes:

TC It probably merits a separate entry, because it is a rather thorough
TC public domain declaration.

Does this have any of the issues that public domain has with respect to
people who live in countries where they cannot disclaim all of their
rights?  It looks like it doesn't with the to the extent allowable by
law clause.  If that's the case, should we recommend that folks use CC0
instead of simple public domain declarations when there have been issues
with the latter?  I know in the past folks have suggested something
like the WTFPL for French citizens who wished to release code to the
public domain but could not.

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Xwindow can't start after f12 preupgrade

2009-11-17 Thread L
Hi

I update from F11 to F12 via preupdate. It seems doing well with
installtion. after reboot, the X window can't be started. I boot this
PC with USB-unbuntn, changed the


id:5:initdefault: at /etc/inittab to

id:3:initdefault:


After started, to level 3, I looked around, unfortunately, I still
can't find way to start X11.

I tryied

/sbin/init 3

at level 3, I can login this PC from other PC

/sbin/init 5

PC just hold there, no response. I can't login this PC from  other networked PC

hope some one can help

Best

Y

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Re: Xwindow can't start after f12 preupgrade

2009-11-17 Thread L
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Ron Siven rsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:20 PM, L yuan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi

 I update from F11 to F12 via preupdate. It seems doing well with
 installtion. after reboot, the X window can't be started. I boot this
 PC with USB-unbuntn, changed the


 id:5:initdefault: at /etc/inittab to

 id:3:initdefault:


 After started, to level 3, I looked around, unfortunately, I still
 can't find way to start X11.

 I tryied

 /sbin/init 3

 at level 3, I can login this PC from other PC

 /sbin/init 5

 PC just hold there, no response. I can't login this PC from  other
 networked PC

 hope some one can help

 Best

 Y

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 Did you try startx from the command line in run level 3?



Yes, I tried it at console, but soon after enter
startx

the system was frozen and lost connect from other PC


here are some lines from /var/log/Xorg.0.log

grep -v (II) /var/log/Xorg.0.log


X.Org X Server 1.6.3.901 (1.6.4 RC 1)
Release Date: 2009-8-25
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.18-164.el5 i686
Current Operating System: Linux zhang 2.6.30.9-96.fc11.i586 #1 SMP Tue
Nov 3 23:33:04 EST 2009 i686
Kernel command line: ro root=UUID=cc2a54a0-0706-4e74-834e-e8b042375861
nomodeset rhgb quiet
Build Date: 09 September 2009  11:25:24AM
Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.6.4-0.1.fc11
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Wed Nov 18 08:37:14 2009
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
(==) ServerLayout Builtin Default Layout
(**) |--Screen Builtin Default intel Screen 0 (0)
(**) |   |--Monitor default monitor
(**) |   |--Device Builtin Default intel Device 0
(==) No monitor specified for screen Builtin Default intel Screen 0.
Using a default monitor configuration.
(==) Automatically adding devices
(==) Automatically enabling devices
(==) FontPath set to:
catalogue:/etc/X11/fontpath.d,
built-ins
(==) ModulePath set to /usr/lib/xorg/modules
If no devices become available, reconfigure HAL or disable 
AllowEmptyInput.
X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
X.Org Video Driver: 5.0
X.Org XInput driver : 4.0
X.Org Server Extension : 2.0
(--) using VT number 7

(--) PCI:*(0:0:2:0) 8086:3582:103c:08bc Intel Corporation 82852/855GM
Integrated Graphics Device rev 2, Mem @ 0x9800/134217728,
0x9040/524288, I/O @ 0x2c30/8, BIOS @ 0x/131072
[0] -1  0   0x - 0x (0x1) MX[B]
[1] -1  0   0x000f - 0x000f (0x1) MX[B]
[2] -1  0   0x000c - 0x000e (0x3) MX[B]
[3] -1  0   0x - 0x0009 (0xa) MX[B]
[4] -1  0   0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
[5] -1  0   0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(==) AIGLX enabled
compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.13.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.1.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
compiled for 1.6.1.901, module version = 2.7.0
Module class: X.Org Video Driver
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 5.0
i810-dc100, i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 852GM/855GM, 865G, 915G,
E7221 (i915), 915GM, 945G, 945GM, 945GME, IGD_GM, IGD_G, 965G, G35,
965Q, 946GZ, 965GM, 965GME/GLE, G33, Q35, Q33,
Mobile Intel® GM45 Express Chipset,
Intel Integrated Graphics Device, G45/G43, Q45/Q43, G41
[0] -1  0   0x - 0x (0x1) MX[B]
[1] -1  0   0x000f - 0x000f (0x1) MX[B]
[2] -1  0   0x000c - 0x000e (0x3) MX[B]
[3] -1  0   0x - 0x0009 (0xa) MX[B]
[4] -1  0   0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
[5] -1  0   0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
[0] -1  0   0x - 0x (0x1) MX[B]
[1] -1  0   0x000f - 0x000f (0x1) MX[B]
[2] -1

Re: Xwindow can't start after f12 preupgrade

2009-11-17 Thread L
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 4:26 PM, L yuan...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Ron Siven rsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:20 PM, L yuan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi

 I update from F11 to F12 via preupdate. It seems doing well with
 installtion. after reboot, the X window can't be started. I boot this
 PC with USB-unbuntn, changed the


 id:5:initdefault: at /etc/inittab to

 id:3:initdefault:


 After started, to level 3, I looked around, unfortunately, I still
 can't find way to start X11.

 I tryied

 /sbin/init 3

 at level 3, I can login this PC from other PC

 /sbin/init 5

 PC just hold there, no response. I can't login this PC from  other
 networked PC

 hope some one can help

 Best

 Y

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 Did you try startx from the command line in run level 3?



 Yes, I tried it at console, but soon after enter
 startx

 the system was frozen and lost connect from other PC


 here are some lines from /var/log/Xorg.0.log

 grep -v (II) /var/log/Xorg.0.log


forget about this Xorg log. In fact there was no Xorg log content
after upgraded.





 X.Org X Server 1.6.3.901 (1.6.4 RC 1)
 Release Date: 2009-8-25
 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.18-164.el5 i686
 Current Operating System: Linux zhang 2.6.30.9-96.fc11.i586 #1 SMP Tue
 Nov 3 23:33:04 EST 2009 i686
 Kernel command line: ro root=UUID=cc2a54a0-0706-4e74-834e-e8b042375861
 nomodeset rhgb quiet
 Build Date: 09 September 2009  11:25:24AM
 Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.6.4-0.1.fc11
        Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
        to make sure that you have the latest version.
 Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
        (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
 (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Wed Nov 18 08:37:14 2009
 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
 (==) ServerLayout Builtin Default Layout
 (**) |--Screen Builtin Default intel Screen 0 (0)
 (**) |   |--Monitor default monitor
 (**) |   |--Device Builtin Default intel Device 0
 (==) No monitor specified for screen Builtin Default intel Screen 0.
        Using a default monitor configuration.
 (==) Automatically adding devices
 (==) Automatically enabling devices
 (==) FontPath set to:
        catalogue:/etc/X11/fontpath.d,
        built-ins
 (==) ModulePath set to /usr/lib/xorg/modules
        If no devices become available, reconfigure HAL or disable 
 AllowEmptyInput.
        X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
        X.Org Video Driver: 5.0
        X.Org XInput driver : 4.0
        X.Org Server Extension : 2.0
 (--) using VT number 7

 (--) PCI:*(0:0:2:0) 8086:3582:103c:08bc Intel Corporation 82852/855GM
 Integrated Graphics Device rev 2, Mem @ 0x9800/134217728,
 0x9040/524288, I/O @ 0x2c30/8, BIOS @ 0x/131072
        [0] -1  0       0x - 0x (0x1) MX[B]
        [1] -1  0       0x000f - 0x000f (0x1) MX[B]
        [2] -1  0       0x000c - 0x000e (0x3) MX[B]
        [3] -1  0       0x - 0x0009 (0xa) MX[B]
        [4] -1  0       0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
        [5] -1  0       0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
        compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.0.0
        Module class: X.Org Server Extension
        ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
        compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.0.0
        Module class: X.Org Server Extension
        ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
        compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.0.0
        ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
 (==) AIGLX enabled
        compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.13.0
        Module class: X.Org Server Extension
        ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
        compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.0.0
        ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
        compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.1.0
        ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
        compiled for 1.6.1.901, module version = 2.7.0
        Module class: X.Org Video Driver
        ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 5.0
        i810-dc100, i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 852GM/855GM, 865G, 915G,
        E7221 (i915), 915GM, 945G, 945GM, 945GME, IGD_GM, IGD_G, 965G, G35,
        965Q, 946GZ, 965GM, 965GME/GLE, G33, Q35, Q33,
        Mobile Intel® GM45 Express Chipset,
        Intel Integrated Graphics Device, G45/G43, Q45/Q43, G41
        [0] -1  0       0x - 0x (0x1) MX[B]
        [1] -1  0       0x000f - 0x000f (0x1) MX[B]
        [2] -1  0       0x000c - 0x000e (0x3) MX[B]
        [3] -1  0       0x - 0x0009 (0xa) MX[B]
        [4] -1  0       0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
        [5] -1  0

Re: Xwindow can't start after f12 preupgrade

2009-11-17 Thread L
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 4:29 PM, L yuan...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 4:26 PM, L yuan...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Ron Siven rsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:20 PM, L yuan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi

 I update from F11 to F12 via preupdate. It seems doing well with
 installtion. after reboot, the X window can't be started. I boot this
 PC with USB-unbuntn, changed the


 id:5:initdefault: at /etc/inittab to

 id:3:initdefault:


 After started, to level 3, I looked around, unfortunately, I still
 can't find way to start X11.

 I tryied

 /sbin/init 3

 at level 3, I can login this PC from other PC

 /sbin/init 5

 PC just hold there, no response. I can't login this PC from  other
 networked PC

 hope some one can help

 Best

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 Did you try startx from the command line in run level 3?



 Yes, I tried it at console, but soon after enter
 startx

 the system was frozen and lost connect from other PC


 here are some lines from /var/log/Xorg.0.log

 grep -v (II) /var/log/Xorg.0.log


 forget about this Xorg log. In fact there was no Xorg log content
 after upgraded.



this may be the righ log for Xorg

in summary, there is no (EE) lines, here are (WW) lines

(WW) Failed to open protocol names file /usr/lib/xorg/protocol.txt
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(WW) Falling back to old probe method for vesa
(WW) Falling back to old probe method for fbdev
(WW) intel(0): Disabling Xv because no adaptors could be initialized.



sudo cat  /var/log/anaconda.xlog


(WW) Failed to open protocol names file /usr/lib/xorg/protocol.txt
X.Org X Server 1.7.1
Release Date: 2009-10-23
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System:  2.6.18-164.2.1.el5
Current Operating System: Linux localhost.localdomain
2.6.31.5-127.fc12.i686 #1 SMP Sat Nov 7 21:41:45 EST 2009 i686
Kernel command line: preupgrade repo=hd::/var/cache/yum/preupgrade
stage2=hd:UUID=cc2a54a0-0706-4e74-834e-e8b042375861:/boot/upgrade/install.img
ks=hd:UUID=cc2a54a0-0706-4e74-834e-e8b042375861:/boot/upgrade/ks.cfg
Build Date: 05 November 2009  07:43:20PM
Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.7.1-7.fc12
Current version of pixman: 0.16.2
Before reporting problems, check http://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(++) Log file: /tmp/X.log, Time: Wed Nov 18 10:17:53 2009
(II) Loader magic: 0x821b0a0
(II) Module ABI versions:
X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
X.Org Video Driver: 6.0
X.Org XInput driver : 7.0
X.Org Server Extension : 2.0
(++) using VT number 6

(--) PCI:*(0:0:2:0) 8086:3582:103c:08bc Intel Corporation 82852/855GM
Integrated Graphics Device rev 2, Mem @ 0x9800/134217728,
0x9040/524288, I/O @ 0x2c30/8, BIOS @ 0x/131072
(--) PCI: (0:0:2:1) 8086:3582:103c:08bc Intel Corporation 82852/855GM
Integrated Graphics Device rev 2, Mem @ 0xa000/134217728,
0x9048/524288, BIOS @ 0x/65536
(==) Using default built-in configuration (30 lines)
(==) --- Start of built-in configuration ---
Section Device
Identifier  Builtin Default intel Device 0
Driver  intel
EndSection
Section Screen
Identifier  Builtin Default intel Screen 0
Device  Builtin Default intel Device 0
EndSection
Section Device
Identifier  Builtin Default vesa Device 0
Driver  vesa
EndSection
Section Screen
Identifier  Builtin Default vesa Screen 0
Device  Builtin Default vesa Device 0
EndSection
Section Device
Identifier  Builtin Default fbdev Device 0
Driver  fbdev
EndSection
Section Screen
Identifier  Builtin Default fbdev Screen 0
Device  Builtin Default fbdev Device 0
EndSection
Section ServerLayout
Identifier  Builtin Default Layout
Screen  Builtin Default intel Screen 0
Screen  Builtin Default vesa Screen 0
Screen  Builtin Default fbdev Screen 0
EndSection
(==) --- End of built-in configuration ---
(==) ServerLayout Builtin Default Layout
(**) |--Screen Builtin Default intel Screen 0 (0)
(**) |   |--Monitor default monitor
(**) |   |--Device Builtin Default intel Device 0
(==) No monitor specified for screen Builtin Default intel Screen 0.
Using a default monitor configuration.
(**) |--Screen Builtin

Re: A silly question about our FC tag

2009-11-16 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
 IRP == Itamar Reis Peixoto ita...@ispbrasil.com.br writes:

IRP because renaming it will cause problems,

Actually not if done in conjunction with a release bump, such as we do
with a mass rebuild.

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networkmanager and openvpn parameters

2009-11-15 Thread Joseph L. Casale
I need to add an auth-user-pass directive to my configuration, how
do I do this?

Thanks!
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one or more disks failling

2009-11-13 Thread L
Hi,

I got a disk health warning from palimpsest disk utility one or more
disks failling. It showed this disk has a bad sector. How can I check
what partion is the sector located?
or any fix?

best
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Re: My laptop's battery is bigger than yours

2009-11-12 Thread L
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com wrote:
 Somehow, since a few weeks ago, occasionally gnome power manager loses its
 mind and starts telling me that my laptop battery's last full charge is
 946.0 watt-hours of juice. Which makes the battery percentage indicator
 pretty much meaningless.

 I can usually set things back to normal by charging up the battery to its
 true max capacity, 63 watt-hours, and rebooting. After the reboot,
 gnome-power-manager gains back its sanity, and usually continues to behave
 itself, for several cycle charges and reboots. But, invariably, after a few
 days gnome-power-manager once again becomes convinced that my laptop's got a
 nuclear-powered battery.

 It's beginning to get rather old, and annoying. It looks to me like somehow,
 somewhere, gnome-power-manager saved an erroneous power reading, once upon a
 time, and keeps going back to it. I tried looking in gconf, trying to
 figured out where gnome-power-manager saves the last full charge reading,
 but had no luck. Anyone knows?

similar problem to me too. after wake-up from suspend/hibernate, gnome
power manager shows 5% remaining, in fact there is still about 2 hours
battery. hope some one offers a fix.





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Re: My laptop's battery is bigger than yours

2009-11-12 Thread L
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 9:31 AM, L yuan...@gmail.com wrote:
 2009/11/12 Christoph Höger choe...@cs.tu-berlin.de:
 Am Donnerstag, den 12.11.2009, 20:35 +1100 schrieb L:
 On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com 
 wrote:
  Somehow, since a few weeks ago, occasionally gnome power manager loses its
  mind and starts telling me that my laptop battery's last full charge is
  946.0 watt-hours of juice. Which makes the battery percentage indicator
  pretty much meaningless.
 
  I can usually set things back to normal by charging up the battery to its
  true max capacity, 63 watt-hours, and rebooting. After the reboot,
  gnome-power-manager gains back its sanity, and usually continues to behave
  itself, for several cycle charges and reboots. But, invariably, after a 
  few
  days gnome-power-manager once again becomes convinced that my laptop's 
  got a
  nuclear-powered battery.
 
  It's beginning to get rather old, and annoying. It looks to me like 
  somehow,
  somewhere, gnome-power-manager saved an erroneous power reading, once 
  upon a
  time, and keeps going back to it. I tried looking in gconf, trying to
  figured out where gnome-power-manager saves the last full charge reading,
  but had no luck. Anyone knows?

 similar problem to me too. after wake-up from suspend/hibernate, gnome
 power manager shows 5% remaining, in fact there is still about 2 hours
 battery. hope some one offers a fix.

 Did you two have a look at /proc/acpi/battery? I doubt this is 
 gnome-power-managers fault.


 prior to suspend


 cat /proc/acpi/battery/C13B/state

 present:                 yes
 capacity state:          ok
 charging state:          discharging
 present rate:            1327 mA
 remaining capacity:      2904 mAh
 present voltage:         15442 mV

 After wake-up from suspend

 cat /proc/acpi/battery/C13B/state
 present:                 yes
 capacity state:          ok
 charging state:          charged
 present rate:            0 mA
 remaining capacity:      45072 mAh
 present voltage:         16626 mV


2 minutes later after wake-up from suspend


cat /proc/acpi/battery/C13B/state
present: yes
capacity state:  ok
charging state:  discharging
present rate:1080 mA
remaining capacity:  2511 mAh
present voltage: 15136 mV






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Re: My laptop's battery is bigger than yours

2009-11-12 Thread L
2009/11/12 Christoph Höger choe...@cs.tu-berlin.de:
 Am Donnerstag, den 12.11.2009, 20:35 +1100 schrieb L:
 On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com 
 wrote:
  Somehow, since a few weeks ago, occasionally gnome power manager loses its
  mind and starts telling me that my laptop battery's last full charge is
  946.0 watt-hours of juice. Which makes the battery percentage indicator
  pretty much meaningless.
 
  I can usually set things back to normal by charging up the battery to its
  true max capacity, 63 watt-hours, and rebooting. After the reboot,
  gnome-power-manager gains back its sanity, and usually continues to behave
  itself, for several cycle charges and reboots. But, invariably, after a few
  days gnome-power-manager once again becomes convinced that my laptop's got 
  a
  nuclear-powered battery.
 
  It's beginning to get rather old, and annoying. It looks to me like 
  somehow,
  somewhere, gnome-power-manager saved an erroneous power reading, once upon 
  a
  time, and keeps going back to it. I tried looking in gconf, trying to
  figured out where gnome-power-manager saves the last full charge reading,
  but had no luck. Anyone knows?

 similar problem to me too. after wake-up from suspend/hibernate, gnome
 power manager shows 5% remaining, in fact there is still about 2 hours
 battery. hope some one offers a fix.

 Did you two have a look at /proc/acpi/battery? I doubt this is 
 gnome-power-managers fault.


prior to suspend


cat /proc/acpi/battery/C13B/state

present: yes
capacity state:  ok
charging state:  discharging
present rate:1327 mA
remaining capacity:  2904 mAh
present voltage: 15442 mV

After wake-up from suspend

cat /proc/acpi/battery/C13B/state
present: yes
capacity state:  ok
charging state:  charged
present rate:0 mA
remaining capacity:  45072 mAh
present voltage: 16626 mV




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Re: Problems with yum update (iptstate)

2009-11-10 Thread L
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan
pocallag...@gmail.com wrote:
 Please don't post HTML to this list. See the Guidelines.

please do not police users. Nowadays, it is very hard to avoid html
email, face reality.


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MFP w/ email support

2009-11-09 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Anyone have an MFP they can reco that supports emailing the fax (scan)
from the console directly, but one that does not enforce email syntax?

I want to put one behind a postfix server that does destination rewriting
to make the destination simpler to type.

Thanks!
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[Fedora-legal-list] Combining copyrights on Erlang source files

2009-11-07 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
A question occurred to me after doing a review recently about whether
Erlang source is compiled and linked together like C source or whether
the source files remain separate like, say, Python.  The issue is an
Erlang package where some source files are LGPLv3+ but one is GPLv2+.  I
took the safe route and assumed that the final result is GPLv3+, but
unfortunately I don't quite know enough about either Erlang or the
actual legal threshold at which the sources are considered to be
commingled.  When I look at the compiled application, it looks as if
each of the .erl files gets turned into a .beam file, and those files
look to be kept separate in the final package.

The ticket, with a package you can build, is at
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502991

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[Fedora-legal-list] Does the AGPL impose packaging requirements?

2009-11-07 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
Does Fedora as a distro need to package AGPL (v3, if it matters)
software in any specific way to meet the requirements of the license?
Or do we simply provide a package (and src.rpm) and leave it up to the
person installing the software to make sure they comply?

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Re: conflict between seedit - selinux-policy and qstat - torque-client

2009-11-04 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
 RK == Rudolf Kastl che...@gmail.com writes:

RK 2. qstat and torque-client both provide a qstat binary... is there
RK anything done to get that resolved upstream? or is it a conflicts
RK and forget scenario?

This one, I think, should be easily resolvable with alternatives.

Actually I think all but a small number of the currently conflicting
packages could be fixed up pretty easily.  Currently it doesn't seem
that there's any sort of enforcement outside of the original package
review.

The way around this is, of course, for someone to spend some time
generating the current list of conflicting packages, proposing
solutions, and working with FESCo in the case that those solutions are
not applied.

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Re: conflict between seedit - selinux-policy and qstat - torque-client

2009-11-04 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
 ST == Steve Traylen steve.tray...@cern.ch writes:

ST Would be happy for an alternatives solution. I have yet another
ST /usr/bin/qstat for a POSIX interface to batch on the way at some
ST point.

Turns out that the other queuing systems (torque and gridengine) have
already renamed their qstat binaries (to qstat-torque and qstat-ge).  I
would expect that other queuing packages should do the same.

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Re: Ubuntu shows updates / security updates on shell logins

2009-11-04 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
 RWMJ == Richard W M Jones rjo...@redhat.com writes:

RWMJ Newly installed Ubuntu 9.10, when you log in over ssh you may see:
RWMJ 34 packages can be updated. 10 updates are security updates.

What a terrible idea.  My users, who are welcome to ssh into a number of
machines at my site, have no need to see that information.

RWMJ Actually I was trying to work out how it's implemented.

Get information, append to /etc/motd.  You could parse yum output in a
cron job if you really wanted it.  It would almost certainly be better
to mail that information, though, if the admin really wants it.  I often
go some time without actually having to ssh into many of my server.

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Re: Pyhton image

2009-11-04 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
 JM == Jonathan MERCIER bioinfornat...@gmail.com writes:

JM Dear sir, I have open a bug:
JM https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=532248
JM But i have any answer! What can i do?

Somehow acquire patience?  Work on debugging the problem yourself?  You
haven't given much time at all for the volunteer on the other end of
that bug report to look at it (not even three weekdays).

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Re: Countdown is on... 13 days until F12 stable.

2009-11-04 Thread L
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 13:07:59 -0800,
  Konstantin Svist fry@gmail.com wrote:

 Will there be a way to upgrade F11 to F12?

 Yes. There are several. But typically you want to upgrade using an install
 image or you want to use preupgrade.

 And if I don't like F12, will there be a way to go back to F11?

 Not easily. Try using a live image to try out the things you need to work
 to see if it is suitable for you. If not, no harm done. If thinks look good,
 then an upgrade will be less risky for you.


I am looking forward to see  evolution 2.28 and evo-mapi 2.28. Hope
this one will let evolution talk to exchange 2007.


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Re: Cheap Acer notebook on Newegg: What wireless chip does it use?

2009-11-02 Thread David L. Gehrt
 On 11/02/2009 07:01 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:
  I found this laptop[1] for a GREAT price but I haven't been able to
  find out what wireless chip it uses and I want to make sure it works
  under F11/F12. I've tried acer.com but they don't list the chip.
  Anyone have one or know where to find it?
 
  Thanks,
  Richard
 
  [1] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834115654


I don't know but doesn't the cited web page answer the question at the
top of the page?

ATI Radeon HD 3200 - Retail

dlg

 
 
 I couldn't find out either. Mail Acer and, while letting them know what 
 dimwits they are, ask about the chip that the wireless card uses.
 
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evolution 2.28 rpm for F11?

2009-10-29 Thread L
Hi

Evolution 2.28 is the current stable version. where to get a rom for
F11? The current version for F11 is 2.26. the support for MS exchange
is poor. evo-mapi crashes persistently.


Best

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evolution to MS exchange 2007 via MAPI

2009-10-28 Thread L
I am looking for information how to connect evolution to MS exchange
mail server. The institute switched the mail server to MS exchange.
The temporary solution is outlook on XP on  VirtualBox, but this is
not preferable.

I tried evolution-MAPI, it seems tried to connect, unfortunate, MAPI
account crashes every single time. Any one have good story to connect
Evolution 2.26.3 on F11 to MS exchange 2007.


best

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Re: evolution to MS exchange 2007 via MAPI

2009-10-28 Thread L
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com wrote:
 On 10/28/2009 07:43 PM, L wrote:

 I am looking for information how to connect evolution to MS exchange
 mail server. The institute switched the mail server to MS exchange.
 The temporary solution is outlook on XP on  VirtualBox, but this is
 not preferable.

 I tried evolution-MAPI, it seems tried to connect, unfortunate, MAPI
 account crashes every single time. Any one have good story to connect
 Evolution 2.26.3 on F11 to MS exchange 2007.



 Can you try to convince the exchange folks to enable IMAP? Then you can use
 Thunderbird or Evolution through an IMAP account. It will function the same,
 minus contact and calendar syncing.

 It may even be on already. Try to telnet ip 143 and see if it connects.


well,  the port is not opened. sent email IT desk. No very hopeful to
to convince the exchange folks.


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Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS (in Rawhide) is about to happen

2009-10-27 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
 SD == Steve Dickson ste...@redhat.com writes:

SD On the server (Which is suggested): Add the following entry to the
SD /etc/exports file:

SD / *(ro,fsid=0)

SD Note: 'fsid=0' is explained in the exports(5) man pages.

Could someone comment on any potential security issues that exporting
the root in this way exposes?  If all of my exported filesystems happen
to live under /export, can I export that directory instead of '/' and
have things work properly?  If, for whatever reason, I need to export a
file system that doesn't live in /export, would I still be able to mount
it?

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Re: sound recording with Fedora 11

2009-10-23 Thread Mitch L Pond

If you want to donate the laptop to the band,
have a look at ccarma

http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/

Kevin Kempter wrote:

Hi all;

my son (the musician) has Fedora 11 installed on an HP HDX-16 laptop.

He wants to record some of his band sessions, we tried using 'sound recorder' 
and plugging the output of his mixer into the mic input on the laptop.


It does record but the sound is fuzzy and to say it was poor quality would be 
an over-estimate, since it's there but barely audible.



Can anyone give us some direction per sound recorders for linux in general and 
specifically how to debug  correct this issue with the mic input?



Thanks in advance..

  


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Requesting help with http://fedoraproject.org/PackageReviewStatus/

2009-10-22 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
For ages there's been this ugly set of pages at
http://fedoraproject.org/PackageReviewStatus/ used by folks who do
package reviews for Fedora to avoid having to stare at the bugzilla
query screen.  Lately I've been trying to overhaul things a bit; I made
things generate from genshi templates instead of a bunch of print
statements, and I added a nice index page.

For the index page, I tried to follow existing Fedora page design, but I
know, well, almost nothing about CSS and HTML so I'd appreciate any
suggestions.  (I don't know much python, either, so it's a miracle that
the stuff runs and renders at all.)  Also, I put the Fedora boilerplate
at the bottom, which I'm not sure I'm allowed or supposed to do.  I'd
really like it if someone could look over that and let me know if I need
to change or remove what's there.

I haven't really done much to the report pages other than try to make
the HTML not stomach-turning.  There's been no attempt made to have them
confirm to any Fedora style or standard.  Any ideas are appreciated.

If anyone feels like looking at the templates, they're in the fedora
CVS tree, visible at
http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/status-report-scripts/review-templates/?root=fedora

The script itself (if anyone can stomach it) is at
http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/status-report-scripts/review-stats.py?root=fedoraview=log

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Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-21 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:52:49PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
 I suspect the problem with that is attempting to determine a universal
 concept of 'offensive'. Heck, we might have no-offensive-packages-kde
 that conflicts with 'gnome-*', and no-offensive-packages-gnome...

And you can't uninstall KDE without killing gnome since
NetworkManager-gnome has a dependency on KDE...

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Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-21 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:00:13AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
 On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 12:58 -0400, Darryl L. Pierce wrote:
  
  And you can't uninstall KDE without killing gnome since
  NetworkManager-gnome has a dependency on KDE... 
 
 Um, what?  Care to elaborate? 

http://www.pastebin.org/46726

If you try to uninstall the KDE (K Desktop Environment) group then
NetworkManager-gnome is marked for deletion as well.

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Re: Who do I send to get a package removed because of bad language.

2009-10-21 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 06:22:04PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
 IIUC, you're mis-interpreting the YUM output there. NetworkManager-gnome
 doesn't have a dependancy on KDE, rather it happens to be part of the 
 KDE (K Desktop Environment)  group. ie in doing a 'groupremove'
 you explicitly asked YUM to remove 'NetworkManager-gnome' since its
 in that group. If you had just done an package level remove, eg 
 'yum remove kde*' then NetworkManager-gnome would not have been removed

You're correct in that removing the KDE group attempts to remove the
NetworkManager-gnome rpm. I remembered uninstalling KDE also removed
NetworkManager-gnome which borked my laptop until I re-installed the
RPM. That's something that should be fixed.

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Passing on ownership for a package...

2009-10-20 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
Is there any process for handing over package ownership? I have a
package that I'm wanting to give to another maintainer. Can I simply
reassign ownership to him, or is there something else needed first?

Thanks.

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where is crontab file for a user

2009-10-18 Thread L
Hi

I upgraded my system from F10 to F11. I can't find where are crontab
contents (created at F10). Is there way to recover them?

Best

Y

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Re: Perl RPM Requires/Provides

2009-10-16 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
 ES == Emmanuel Seyman emmanuel.sey...@club-internet.fr writes:

ES Note that there's only the option of selectively removing the
ES automatically found values:
ES 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Perl#Filtering_Requires:_and_Provides

Well, actually if you look at what's on that page, it should be pretty
obvious how to simply not call the old __perl_provides or
__perl_requires scripts and not get any automatic Perl dependencies.

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Re: blogs site (lets finish it)

2009-10-08 Thread l...@williams-freelancing.co.uk

On 08 October 2009 at 05:50 Sijis Aviles si...@fedoraproject.org wrote:

 On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Hiemanshu Sharma
 hieman...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
  This is already on the bugs we are trying to solve. It is happening in
  more than just commenting parts. Seems to be a problem the way the
  URLs are being sent. You can ping nb on the status since he is
  handling it.
 
  Regards,
 
  Hiemanshu Sharma.
 
  2009/10/5 Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro:
  On 10/05/2009 04:57 PM, Mike McGrath wrote:
  We're confusing people with the blogs site atm.
 
  http://mso-chronicles.blogspot.com/2009/10/blogsfpo.html
 
  If it's done (I see the ticket has been closed) can we get the SOP
  together and have someone prepare an announcement?
 
  Following Martin's post I just found this bug:
  https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1718
 
  It should be easy to fix, I believe is all about passing URLs in a bat
  format, but ugly enough to need fixes before going public (affect
  everybody trying to add comments)
 
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 Derrick (actown) and I updated the fasauth plugin which should have
 fixed the login errors and redirects. Nick (NB) has updated it in
 puppet so it should be published for everyone now.
 
 I believe the last thing to do is create a How to create a blog document.
 
 Let us know if there are any more errors.
 
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I don't mind picking up this documentation requirement if someone who already
meets the min requirements is available - even if they don't have time to
document fully if they could just do me some screen shots of the process I don't
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Re: USB wireless broadband modem from Vodafone on F11 HOW TO CONNECT?

2009-10-08 Thread L
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:13 PM, L yuan...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Didar Hossain didar.hoss...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:46 PM, L yuan...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 1:09 AM, kalinix 
 calin.kalinix.co...@gmail.comwrote:

  On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 19:09 +1100, L wrote:

 Hi,

 I plan to get a USB wireless Broadband modem from 
 Vodafonehttp://www.vodafone.com.au/personal/mobilebroadband/mobile-broadband-prepaid.htm

 The deal seems attractive. any of you have this USB modem work on
 Fedora 11 via NM?

 I am happy to hear you experiences with Vodafone USB wireless modem.

 Y



 I do, and it works ok both from NM and cli (through wvdial).

 However there is also https://forge.betavine.net/



 Could you show some steps? after plug this USB modem in, I got message
 usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5
 usb 2-1: New USB device found, idVendor=12d1, idProduct=1001
 usb 2-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=1
 usb 2-1: Product: HUAWEI Mobile
 usb 2-1: Manufacturer: ���
 usb 2-1: SerialNumber: ���
 usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
 option 2-1:1.0: GSM modem (1-port) converter detected
 usb 2-1: GSM modem (1-port) converter now attached to ttyUSB0
 option 2-1:1.1: GSM modem (1-port) converter detected
 usb 2-1: GSM modem (1-port) converter now attached to ttyUSB1
 option 2-1:1.2: GSM modem (1-port) converter detected
 usb 2-1: GSM modem (1-port) converter now attached to ttyUSB2
 usb-storage: probe of 2-1:1.3 failed with error -1

 NM does not show any response.


 That one is the Huawei E620 USB modem (grep -i huawei -A 5
 /var/lib/misc/usb.ids)

 As root, you will need to run wvdialconf - this will create a
 /etc/wvdial.conf file.
 You will just need to update the Phone, Username and Password
 entries.

 Here is how my /etc/wvdial.conf looks -

 [Dialer Defaults]
 Init1 = ATZ
 Init2 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 C1 D2 +FCLASS=0
 Modem Type = Analog Modem
 Baud = 9600
 New PPPD = yes
 Modem = /dev/ttyUSB0
 ISDN = 0
 Phone = 
 Password = xxx
 Username = 
 Stupid Mode = On


 thanks, my modem is E620 too. after activated, i was give

 account number 4000x
 MSISDN 0451xx  alike mobile number
 pin xx

 which of these is phone, password and username in wvdial,conf

 thanks for your help

 fater put this

phone = *99#
username = 0451xx
password=

in the wvdial.conf

I get this messege




 YATZ
 OK
 -- Sending: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 C1 D2 +FCLASS=0
 ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 C1 D2 +FCLASS=0
 OK
 -- Modem initialized.
 -- Cannot get information for serial port.
 -- Initializing modem.
 -- Sending: ATZ
 ATZ
 OK
 -- Sending: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 C1 D2 +FCLASS=0
 ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 C1 D2 +FCLASS=0
 OK
 -- Modem initialized.
 -- Sending: ATDT*99#
 -- Waiting for carrier.
 ATDT*99#
 CONNECT
 -- Carrier detected.  Starting PPP immediately.
 -- Starting pppd at Fri Oct  9 00:52:53 2009
 -- Pid of pppd: 6947
 -- pppd: H[1b] `[19]
 -- Using interface ppp0
 -- pppd: H[1b] `[19]
 -- pppd: H[1b] `[19]
 -- Authentication (CHAP) started
 -- pppd: H[1b] `[19]
 -- pppd: H[1b] `[19]
 -- Authentication (CHAP) started
 -- pppd: H[1b] `[19]
 -- pppd: H[1b] `[19]
 -- Authentication (CHAP) successful
 -- pppd: H[1b] `[19]
 -- pppd: H[1b] `[19]
 -- pppd: H[1b] `[19]
 -- pppd: H[1b] `[19]
 -- pppd: H[1b] `[19]
 -- pppd: H[1b] `[19]
 -- Disconnecting at Fri Oct  9 00:52:58 2009
 -- The PPP daemon has died: A modem hung up the phone (exit code = 16)
 -- man pppd explains pppd error codes in more detail.
 -- Try again and look into /var/log/messages and the wvdial and pppd man
 pages for more information.
 -- Auto Reconnect will be attempted in 20 seconds
 -- Cannot get information for serial port.
 -- Initializing modem.
 -- Sending: ATZ
 ATZ
 OK
 -- Sending: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 C1 D2 +FCLASS=0
 ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 C1 D2 +FCLASS=0
 OK



just a bit follow up




 I had to put in the Stupid Mode = On line myself. The other lines were
 put in by `wvdialconf'.
 Note: I am using the Huawei EC1260 USB modem, so your Init1 and Init2
 strings may come
 out different.

 I am using an older NM (Network-Manager) where dialup is broken, so can't
 help you there.

 Regards,
 Didar


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Dell Inspiron 537s

2009-10-08 Thread David L
Dell recently changed their Ubuntu desktop series... they
now have an Inspiron 537s.  Has anybody used one with
f11 or rawhide?

On a related topic, it would be great if a few key fedora
developers/testers had access to systems like this so
I would know before shelling out $500 that it's likely to
be well supported.  I'd even kick in $20 to the fedora
project earmarked for the purchase of one to sit in a
cube at redhat as a fedora test machine.  Are there 24
other takers?  ;)  Seriously though, I think there might
be wider adoption of fedora/Linux/pre-loaded Linux
vendors if users felt more like developers had access
to the exact system they buy.  I have struggled with a
crappy intel driver on my IBM thinkcentre for the last 6
fedora releases and I'd really like to not repeat that
experience when buying new hardware.  Since the list
of pre-installed Linux systems from major desktop
manufacturers is pretty short, it seems like it should be
easy to get such a system on a desk at redhat.


FYI - here's what a 537s has (with defaults except changing
the intel graphics to ATI) for $479 + tax/shipping:

Ubuntu Desktop Edition 9.04
Intel Pentium dual-core E5300 (2MB L2, 2.6GHz, 800FSB)
1Yr Ltd Hardware Warranty, InHome Service after Remote Diagnosis
2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 800MHz- 2 DIMMs
320GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache™
20 Dell ST2010-Black High Definition Monitor
16X DVD+/-RW Drive
ATI Radeon HD 4350 512MB
Integrated 5.1 Channel Audio
No Speaker Option
Dell Consumer Entry USB Keyboard and Mouse
No Floppy Drive or Media Card Reader Included
No Modem Option
Piano Black
My Accessories
Inspiron 537 Slim-Tower w/ Black Bezel
Integrated 10/100 Ethernet

Anybody see any red flags with fedora compatibility there?

Thanks...

          David

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Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Re: [publican-list] Adjusting copyright information

2009-10-07 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
 RF == Richard Fontana rfont...@redhat.com writes:

[Offensiveness of WTFPL text]
RF Agreed, this is unfortunate. :) 

Might I suggest simply modifying the offensive language?  I know license
proliferation is bad, but if the result is legally equivalent and serves
the necessary purpose then I don't see any reason not to just do it.

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Re: USB wireless broadband modem from Vodafone on F11 HOW TO CONNECT?

2009-10-07 Thread L
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 1:09 AM, kalinix calin.kalinix.co...@gmail.comwrote:

  On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 19:09 +1100, L wrote:

 Hi,

 I plan to get a USB wireless Broadband modem from 
 Vodafonehttp://www.vodafone.com.au/personal/mobilebroadband/mobile-broadband-prepaid.htm

 The deal seems attractive. any of you have this USB modem work on
 Fedora 11 via NM?

 I am happy to hear you experiences with Vodafone USB wireless modem.

 Y



 I do, and it works ok both from NM and cli (through wvdial).

 However there is also https://forge.betavine.net/



 Could you show some steps? after plug this USB modem in, I got message
usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5
usb 2-1: New USB device found, idVendor=12d1, idProduct=1001
usb 2-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=1
usb 2-1: Product: HUAWEI Mobile
usb 2-1: Manufacturer: ���
usb 2-1: SerialNumber: ���
usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
option 2-1:1.0: GSM modem (1-port) converter detected
usb 2-1: GSM modem (1-port) converter now attached to ttyUSB0
option 2-1:1.1: GSM modem (1-port) converter detected
usb 2-1: GSM modem (1-port) converter now attached to ttyUSB1
option 2-1:1.2: GSM modem (1-port) converter detected
usb 2-1: GSM modem (1-port) converter now attached to ttyUSB2
usb-storage: probe of 2-1:1.3 failed with error -1

NM does not show any response.







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Introduction

2009-10-06 Thread l...@williams-freelancing.co.uk

Hi,

I thought I'd join up here as well as the infrastructure list - I do have
transferable skills to help, namely php / mysql, for web development with work
we use ASP.NET.  For those not on the FIL I've included the main parts of the
original introduction I sent to the infrastructure list which gives you a fair
bit of info about me below; apologies if you've seen this before.

Cheers.

Lee

(FAS/irc: leemwilliams)

== Original intro' sent to FIL ==

I'm married with 3 kids (aged 4, 2, 1 :D)... full time job but I do get time to
spare surprisingly  I love my family to pieces they mean the world to me.

I've been working in IT for 10yrs now all in a Microsoft DOS / Windows based
environment, starting with development in FoxBASE and FoxPro and moving through
the versions to visual fox.  I've not attended university but have never had a
problem with reading / googlin' bits to learn new things; I do get quite a kick
from picking up new to me technologies and helping to solve problems. 

Currently I work full time as a Visual Studio developer with Technology
Management Ltd. in the UK developing .NET applications for the WinCE / Windows
Mobile based mobile device market.  Those applications are mainly written in C#
but we do have a significant VB.net code base.

Following the latest Microsoft based OS crash at home a rebuild has become
necessary which I started this weekend - yesterday in fact, so I made the choice
to make Linux my main OS; to be fair it should've been from when I dabbled with
Fedora 7 and 8 thereafter... still... my foot has gone down, and my wife is
scheduled a tour of Fedora at the weekend ;)  

I have recently bootstrapped myself to other languages C / C++ and php for web
work I'm finding this interesting to say the least.  I do have some experience
with Apache and MySQL (obviously the strong knowledge I have in Internet
Information Services and SQL Server have been somewhat transferable).  It looks
like I need to add python to the list of things to learn and this is something
I've been mulling over so may just make that leap. 

From all of that I'm hoping you can tell that whilst I have very little
experience with 'nix environments I am keen to learn just need some guidance on
where to go to pick that up.

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but... now I'm rambling :D

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USB wireless broadband modem from Vodafone on F11

2009-10-05 Thread L
Hi,

I plan to get a USB wireless Broadband modem from Vodafone
http://www.vodafone.com.au/personal/mobilebroadband/mobile-broadband-prepaid.htm

The deal seems attractive. any of you have this USB modem work on
Fedora 11 via NM?

I am happy to hear you experiences with Vodafone USB wireless modem.

Y

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Re: CalDAV Calendar (BedeWork)

2009-10-02 Thread Trever L. Adams
Mat Booth wrote:
 This package has a bunch of property files that you have to edit before
 you build the program.
 (http://www.bedework.org/downloads/3.5/BedeworkManual-3.5.pdf#page=18)
 Also, setting usernames and passwords at compile time is definitely
 not normal for *any* kind of application. Are you sure they are not
 runtime properties?
   

I do not know if it is just part of the package or at compile time. If
you read the referenced url, you will see. I am taking this to the Java
list as suggested.

Trever



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Re: Live USB from Live CD image?

2009-10-02 Thread L
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Valent Turkovic
valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Sharpe, Sam J
 sam.sharpe+lists.red...@gmail.com wrote:
 2009/9/30 Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com:
 Hi,
 I saw somewhere a tip how to make LiveUSB when booting from LiveCD
 image, but now I can't find that reference...
 I would be really grateful for anyone pointing me in right direction.

 http://tinyurl.com/yc6ebh3

 It basically boils down to:

 $ livecd-iso-to-disk /dev/live /dev/USBDEVICENAME


My choice is unetbootin

http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/


very easy to use




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orphaning argus

2009-09-30 Thread L. Gabriel Somlo
Not using argus anymore, and no cycles to do right by it.
Please feel free to pick it up if there's interest.

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CalDAV Calendar (BedeWork)

2009-09-30 Thread Trever L. Adams
Hello all,

About a year ago, I suggested that BedeWork (http://bedework.org) be
included. I offered to package it with some help. I unfortunately ran
out of time. I now have time to package it and hopefully maintain the
package. Unfortunately, I haven't written an Java code in a decade or
so. I have never messed with Java packages.

The problems I have:

This package has a bunch of property files that you have to edit before
you build the program.
(http://www.bedework.org/downloads/3.5/BedeworkManual-3.5.pdf#page=18)
These include database names, locations, user/passwords for the
database, etc. I do not know if this is normal or not. I do not know how
to package this, how to suggest people customize this information, etc.

This program also requires JBoss or Tomcat (maybe there are others that
will work). Since I do not see JBoss in Fedora, Tomcat would be fine. I
have not experience with this. It would be nice if a Tomcat person can
help me with documentation on how to get this working and to use AD
(Kerberos [SPNEGO/GSSAPI] and LDAP) for the authentication and
user/group information as well.

I have a few packages that I have not yet submitted that I have
packaged. These include PyKota (and its dependencies), DSPAM, and C-ICAP
(not yet ready as I have some code I am writing that will be turned over
before I submit this package).

I have no clue about any of the build systems in Fedora, so I will need
help with this as well.

I know that F12 is closed for this, but I could get it ready for F13.

Thank you,
Trever



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hostapd

2009-09-29 Thread Trever L. Adams
For some time the wifi drivers have been moving away from even WEP AP
mode in kernel. Is it possible to get hostapd as a package with a
compile configuration similar to the attached one?

Thank you,
Trever Adams
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# Example hostapd build time configuration
#
# This file lists the configuration options that are used when building the
# hostapd binary. All lines starting with # are ignored. Configuration option
# lines must be commented out complete, if they are not to be included, i.e.,
# just setting VARIABLE=n is not disabling that variable.
#
# This file is included in Makefile, so variables like CFLAGS and LIBS can also
# be modified from here. In most cass, these lines should use += in order not
# to override previous values of the variables.

# Driver interface for Host AP driver
CONFIG_DRIVER_HOSTAP=y

# Driver interface for wired authenticator
#CONFIG_DRIVER_WIRED=y

# Driver interface for madwifi driver
#CONFIG_DRIVER_MADWIFI=y
#CFLAGS += -I../../madwifi # change to the madwifi source directory

# Driver interface for Prism54 driver
#CONFIG_DRIVER_PRISM54=y

# Driver interface for drivers using the nl80211 kernel interface
CONFIG_DRIVER_NL80211=y
# driver_nl80211.c requires a rather new libnl (version 1.1) which may not be
# shipped with your distribution yet. If that is the case, you need to build
# newer libnl version and point the hostapd build to use it.
#LIBNL=/usr/src/libnl
#CFLAGS += -I$(LIBNL)/include
#LIBS += -L$(LIBNL)/lib

# Driver interface for FreeBSD net80211 layer (e.g., Atheros driver)
#CONFIG_DRIVER_BSD=y
#CFLAGS += -I/usr/local/include
#LIBS += -L/usr/local/lib

# Driver interface for no driver (e.g., RADIUS server only)
#CONFIG_DRIVER_NONE=y

# IEEE 802.11F/IAPP
CONFIG_IAPP=y

# WPA2/IEEE 802.11i RSN pre-authentication
CONFIG_RSN_PREAUTH=y

# PeerKey handshake for Station to Station Link (IEEE 802.11e DLS)
CONFIG_PEERKEY=y

# IEEE 802.11w (management frame protection)
# This version is an experimental implementation based on IEEE 802.11w/D1.0
# draft and is subject to change since the standard has not yet been finalized.
# Driver support is also needed for IEEE 802.11w.
#CONFIG_IEEE80211W=y

# Integrated EAP server
CONFIG_EAP=y

# EAP-MD5 for the integrated EAP server
CONFIG_EAP_MD5=y

# EAP-TLS for the integrated EAP server
CONFIG_EAP_TLS=y

# EAP-MSCHAPv2 for the integrated EAP server
CONFIG_EAP_MSCHAPV2=y

# EAP-PEAP for the integrated EAP server
CONFIG_EAP_PEAP=y

# EAP-GTC for the integrated EAP server
CONFIG_EAP_GTC=y

# EAP-TTLS for the integrated EAP server
CONFIG_EAP_TTLS=y

# EAP-SIM for the integrated EAP server
CONFIG_EAP_SIM=y

# EAP-AKA for the integrated EAP server
CONFIG_EAP_AKA=y

# EAP-AKA' for the integrated EAP server
# This requires CONFIG_EAP_AKA to be enabled, too.
CONFIG_EAP_AKA_PRIME=y

# EAP-PAX for the integrated EAP server
CONFIG_EAP_PAX=y

# EAP-PSK for the integrated EAP server (this is _not_ needed for WPA-PSK)
CONFIG_EAP_PSK=y

# EAP-SAKE for the integrated EAP server
CONFIG_EAP_SAKE=y

# EAP-GPSK for the integrated EAP server
CONFIG_EAP_GPSK=y
# Include support for optional SHA256 cipher suite in EAP-GPSK
CONFIG_EAP_GPSK_SHA256=y

# EAP-FAST for the integrated EAP server
# Note: Default OpenSSL package does not include support for all the
# functionality needed for EAP-FAST. If EAP-FAST is enabled with OpenSSL,
# the OpenSSL library must be patched (openssl-0.9.9-session-ticket.patch)
# to add the needed functions.
CONFIG_EAP_FAST=y

# Wi-Fi Protected Setup (WPS)
#CONFIG_WPS=y
# Enable UPnP support for external WPS Registrars
#CONFIG_WPS_UPNP=y

# EAP-IKEv2
CONFIG_EAP_IKEV2=y

# Trusted Network Connect (EAP-TNC)
CONFIG_EAP_TNC=y

# PKCS#12 (PFX) support (used to read private key and certificate file from
# a file that usually has extension .p12 or .pfx)
CONFIG_PKCS12=y

# RADIUS authentication server. This provides access to the integrated EAP
# server from external hosts using RADIUS.
#CONFIG_RADIUS_SERVER=y

# Build IPv6 support for RADIUS operations
CONFIG_IPV6=y

# IEEE Std 802.11r-2008 (Fast BSS Transition)
CONFIG_IEEE80211R=y

# Use the hostapd's IEEE 802.11 authentication (ACL), but without
# the IEEE 802.11 Management capability (e.g., madwifi or FreeBSD/net80211)
#CONFIG_DRIVER_RADIUS_ACL=y

# IEEE 802.11n (High Throughput) support
CONFIG_IEEE80211N=y

# Remove debugging code that is printing out debug messages to stdout.
# This can be used to reduce the size of the hostapd considerably if debugging
# code is not needed.
#CONFIG_NO_STDOUT_DEBUG=y


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Re: Removing provide statement from an existing spec file

2009-09-29 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
 SSF == Stefan Schulze Frielinghaus ste...@seekline.net writes:

SSF If I interpret the naming guidelines right, then a period is not
SSF allowed in a package name.

Could you indicate where in the naming guidelines you see that a period
is not valid in a package name?

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Re: [KDE] Which Phonon? Phonon backend - GStreamer or Xine?

2009-09-29 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
 FJR == Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com writes:

FJR * Phonon backend not as mature as Xine one
FJR  - missing functionality

Perhaps you could supply more detail as to which functionality is
missing?

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Introduction

2009-09-28 Thread l...@williams-freelancing.co.uk
Hi,

Looking at the wiki it says to introduce myself.

Well here goes...

I'm married with 3 kids (aged 4, 2, 1 :D)... full time job but I do get time to
spare surprisingly  I love my family to pieces they mean the world to me.

I've been working in IT for 10yrs now all in a Microsoft DOS / Windows based
environment, starting with development in FoxBASE and FoxPro and moving through
the versions to visual fox.  I've not attended university but have never had a
problem with reading / googlin' bits to learn new things; I do get quite a kick
from picking up new to me technologies and helping to solve problems. 

Currently I work full time as a Visual Studio developer with Technology
Management Ltd. in the UK developing .NET applications for the WinCE / Windows
Mobile based mobile device market.  Those applications are mainly written in C#
but we do have a significant VB.net code base.

Following the latest Microsoft based OS crash at home a rebuild has become
necessary which I started this weekend - yesterday in fact, so I made the choice
to make Linux my main OS; to be fair it should've been from when I dabbled with
Fedora 7 and 8 thereafter... still... my foot has gone down, and my wife is
scheduled a tour of Fedora at the weekend ;)  

I have recently bootstrapped myself to other languages C / C++ and php for web
work I'm finding this interesting to say the least.  I do have some experience
with Apache and MySQL (obviously the strong knowledge I have in Internet
Information Services and SQL Server have been somewhat transferable).  It looks
like I need to add python to the list of things to learn and this is something
I've been mulling over so may just make that leap. 

From all of that I'm hoping you can tell that whilst I have very little
experience with 'nix environments I am keen to learn just need some guidance on
where to go to pick that up.

Away from PC's (if there ever is such time) I play guitar - well I play guitar,
banjo, and mandolin to be honest.  The last two I'm not so hot at but I can
hold my own - to coin a phrase - on the guitar.  I also love to read; and have
- of all things - recently started dabbling in magic and performance thereof
but... now I'm rambling :D

I look forward to helping in whatever way I can.  I'm looking for a good place
to start, I'm obviously following the wiki, reading up when I can, and of course
getting my own Fedora environment setup (although I do have one running in
VirtualBox at work to satiate the 'nix desires whilst I'm at work :D).

I'm am currently hoping to help in the sysadmin-devel FIG.

So hello nice to meet and greet, and I hope you're well.

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Re: evolution to exchange server

2009-09-26 Thread L
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Matthew Saltzman m...@clemson.edu wrote:
 On Fri, 2009-09-25 at 23:11 -0400, Mail Llists wrote:
 On 09/24/2009 10:28 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:

  The basic way to configure any of these is: install the plugin RPM,
  restart evolution, create an account and select Brutus (or Exchange or
  MAPI, resp.) as the server type.  You'll need some information about
  server URLs, which your admins can supply.  In particular, the Brutus
  setup asks for a port, but nobody I've asked seems to know what the
  right port is.
 


   I need to connect to exchange 2007 - with no imap. In my experience.

    a) thunderbird does not work.

 Correct--no MAPI. no OWA.


    b) evo with owa does not work (it scrapes things based on older owa)

 Correct again.


    c) evo-mapi - kind of reads some mails - but crashes doing almost
 anything (like copying mails). It also was unable to send any mails to
 any exchange user - mail stays in outbox - oddly it works perfectly well
 sending mail to anyone outside address!

 evo-mapi is probably the future, but it's not there yet.

 There's a patch in Bugzilla to fix the problem with interminable
 rescanning, but it hasn't been incorporated yet.  I don't know about the
 other crashes you've experienced--I haven't had a chance to get that far
 yet.



    d) evo brutus may be the only chance - tho it may not be active, and
 i was not able to find the required desktop windows server as i
 mentioned before.

 I used to have a link to them, but I don't think it was 42tools.com.
 Nevertheless, that seems to be where most Web links point to, and
 there's no reference to it there.


   i'd really like to get this going ...

 gene



Hi

MAPI seems get evolution connected to exchange server, but crashed
frequently. I'd like try Brutus. How to configure Brutus?

In Evolution Account Editor, there is a session 'Brutus Settings', it asks for

Exchange email address
Window Domian
Brutus Server
Brutus Server port

Can someone explain what are these, in particular the brutus server and port?

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Re: [Fedora-legal-list] rubygem GPLv3 package requiring GPLv2 package

2009-09-25 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
 JK == Jan Klepek jan.kle...@brandforge.sk writes:

JK Hi, I'm working on packaging rubygem-ditz which is licensed under
JK GPLv3 ( https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525211 ). Ditz
JK require library rubygem-trollop which is under GPLv2 (
JK https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525210 ).

If there's no actual compilation of differently licensed source code
involved, I believe this situation is explicitly covered in
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing/FAQ

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evolution to exchange server

2009-09-24 Thread L
Hi,

I am looking for information how to connect evolution to MS exchange
mail server. The institute switched the mail server to MS exchange.
The temporary solution is outlook on XP on  VirtualBox, but this is
not preferable. Any help is great.

L

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Re: evolution to exchange server

2009-09-24 Thread L
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Jussi Lehtola
jussileht...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
 On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 16:58 +1000, L wrote:
 Hi,

 I am looking for information how to connect evolution to MS exchange
 mail server. The institute switched the mail server to MS exchange.
 The temporary solution is outlook on XP on  VirtualBox, but this is
 not preferable. Any help is great.

 I think you need to install the exchange plugin with
 # yum install evolution-brutus
 --

Yes, I have this installed, How to configure it?


 Jussi Lehtola
 Fedora Project Contributor
 jussileht...@fedoraproject.org

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Personal Experiences w/ HP DV6 laptops and Fedora

2009-09-24 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Anyone got any personal opinions about these laptops running Fedora?
They have Intel 4500 graphics which is the only thing I notice that
concerns me given the poor support right now for Intel.

Other than that, I am curious if anyone knows anything specific they
could share.

Thanks guys!
jlc

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RE: Personal Experiences w/ HP DV6 laptops and Fedora

2009-09-24 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Why do you say that?

Well, many people including me have issues where X gets stuck etc...
My desktop running Intel 3100 I think (not in front of that on atm)
freezes at least 20% of the time when I fullscreen a video.

Using the boxes for things like kwrite etc presents no issues at all.
But that's not to useful for my needs:)

jlc


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Re: Where is Callum Lerwick / seg?

2009-09-23 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
I know that Callum has in the past had periods where he is very busy.
Given that he's asked for assistance before, and that no reasonable
maintainer wouldn't want help from experienced packagers when busy, I
went ahead and approved agoode and rdieter's requests for watchbugzilla,
watchcommits and commit privileges on the openjpeg package.  I did not
approve oliver's requests as he only requested commit access without
asking for watchbugzilla or watchcommits, which I don't think it a
terribly good idea.  I also did not approve the requests for
approveacls, just in case Callum still wishes to maintain control over
that.

Also, note the EPEL is orthogonal to this; if the maintainer doesn't
respond one way or another to a request to branch for EPEL, the policy
says that you can just branch for EPEL without them.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Getting_a_Fedora_package_in_EPEL

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Re: Fwd: [Bug 249824] Review Request: last.fm - listen to last.fm radio stations

2009-09-21 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
 MAS == Michel Alexandre Salim michael.silva...@gmail.com writes:

MAS Who is this Piotr Drag and why is he suddenly Cc:ing himself on
MAS very old bug requests?

I assume you mean un-ccing himself.  Do you believe he has violated
some rule by removing himself from the CC list of several bugs?  I can't
see how he's done anything even remotely improper.   I can't see why his
identity eveen remotely of any concern.

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RE: Netbook Opinion

2009-09-16 Thread Joseph L. Casale
What problems with Flash ??

Wow, that's good to know. So these things actually get killed on
sites with heavy flash? That concerns me wrt to how much computational
power they have. I realize they are atoms, but are that weak, or is the
flash that bad:)

Thanks everyone!
jlc

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Re: Question about .bs files

2009-09-16 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
 OP == Orion Poplawski or...@cora.nwra.com writes:

OP Can anyone tell me what the purpose of an empty *.bs files in the
OP auto directory tree would be?  Do we need to package them?

You shouldn't package them.  There's a reason the specfle template
deletes them:

# Remove the next line from noarch packages (unneeded)
find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -type f -name '*.bs' -a -size 0 -exec rm -f {} ';'

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Netbook Opinion

2009-09-15 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Hey Guys,
I am about to get a netbook for home/work so it must dual boot Linux
and windows. What are some opinions anyone having used various brands
have?

Was looking at Acer's and Asus books.

The Acer Aspire One 751H looks pretty nice.

Thanks!
jlc

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Re: F11 and jackd

2009-09-14 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Andras Simon wrote:
 On 9/15/09, lanas la...@securenet.net wrote:
 Hi,

   Using yum I've installed jackd and qjackctl on an fully updated F11
 x86_64 system.  When using qjackctl to start jackd it reports that it
 cannot connect to alsa.  What would be the proper configuration to use
 jackd on a F11 x86_64 system ?
 
 Maybe PulseAudio stands between jackd and alsa? I'm not sure if you
 can have both (i.e. jackd and PA). If not, then the required
 configuration for jackd is throwing out PA.
 
 Andras
 
There is a plug in, I believe for jackd, that lets it work with PA.
I don't remember then name, but you can search for it. Try doing a
search for pulse or jack in yumex.

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Re: snip extraneous quotes from your posts to the list, dammit

2009-09-13 Thread Robert L Cochran
Do you give out tickets and fines, jail terms and excommunication for 
the crime of posting?


Bob


On 09/13/2009 02:06 AM, Tim wrote:

Snip extraneous quotes from your posts to the list, dammit!  (You, and
everyone else doing this.)

It's a pain to read stuff when there's three pages of stuff that just
isn't needed in a message, and has to be scrolled past to find the
reply.

It's a waste of everyone's time, bandwidth, and storage space.  You're
not paying for any of that, including the list server's, so don't make
things more expensive for those that are.


   


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Re: snip extraneous quotes from your posts to the list, dammit

2009-09-13 Thread Robert L Cochran

Guidelines are voluntary.

I don't crucify, burn at stake, hang, dismember or torture other list 
people for doing things differently. We do not live in the 1400s any longer.


Bob



On 09/13/2009 10:00 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 09:52 -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote:
   

Do you give out tickets and fines, jail terms and excommunication for
the crime of posting?
 

Have you actually read the list guidelines (including the part about not
top-posting)?

poc

   


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Re: snip extraneous quotes from your posts to the list, dammit

2009-09-13 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Robert L Cochran wrote:
 Guidelines are voluntary.
 
So is providing help on the list. Not following the guidelines is a
good way to limit those willing to help you.

 I don't crucify, burn at stake, hang, dismember or torture other list
 people for doing things differently. We do not live in the 1400s any
 longer.
 
 Bob
 
I guess politeness has also gone out of style. Guidelines are to let
people know the way they are expected to behave in this community.
After all, things like changing you cloths, washing, etc are
voluntary. But you will have a hard time fitting in in most parts of
the world if this is the way you conduct yourself.

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A:  Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q:  Why is top-posting a bad thing?




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Re: snip extraneous quotes from your posts to the list, dammit

2009-09-13 Thread Robert L Cochran
Here in the USA, I do not need to be ashamed for having a different view 
and a different way of doing things. I can have my own beliefs and 
practices.


When you resort to threats of no help to me unless I toe the line you 
dictate to me, you illustrate what I'm getting at.


It takes people with many different views to make a good product. If I 
banned everyone from my workplace who doesn't think as I do, then I'd be 
standing in the building alone. With nothing to show for it.


Bob


On 09/13/2009 10:35 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:

Robert L Cochran wrote:
   

Guidelines are voluntary.

 

So is providing help on the list. Not following the guidelines is a
good way to limit those willing to help you.

   

I don't crucify, burn at stake, hang, dismember or torture other list
people for doing things differently. We do not live in the 1400s any
longer.

Bob

 

I guess politeness has also gone out of style. Guidelines are to let
people know the way they are expected to behave in this community.
After all, things like changing you cloths, washing, etc are
voluntary. But you will have a hard time fitting in in most parts of
the world if this is the way you conduct yourself.

Mikkel
   


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Re: snip extraneous quotes from your posts to the list, dammit

2009-09-13 Thread Peter l Jakobi
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 11:57:58AM -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote:

 Here in the USA, I do not need to be ashamed for having a different view  
 and a different way of doing things. I can have my own beliefs and  
 practices.

Dear Bob, 

1.  please be considerate of volunteer effort, as it is very valuable,
and the enthusiasm required for it isn't infinite in each volunteer.

2.   Wasting  someones  time  with  excess  quoting  and  flaming   in
mailinglists is a good way to ensure that he'll loose his enthusiasm.

3.  One of the reasons that many lists have netiquettes and have added
top-posting to the list of things to avoid.

 When you resort to threats of no help to me unless I toe the line you  
 dictate to me, you illustrate what I'm getting at.


Here's another simple rule-of-3:

1. Feel  free  to continue like that.

2.  Others will feel free to killfile your address and thus won't ever
again see your emails.

3. Welcome to my killfile.

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Re: snip extraneous quotes from your posts to the list, dammit

2009-09-13 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Robert L Cochran wrote:
 Here in the USA, I do not need to be ashamed for having a different view
 and a different way of doing things. I can have my own beliefs and
 practices.
 
I'm from Milwaukee - I know something about the US. You can have
your own beliefs. But you are constrained in your practices by what
the community tolerates.

 When you resort to threats of no help to me unless I toe the line you
 dictate to me, you illustrate what I'm getting at.
 
Not a threat - I have no obligation to help anyone on the list. I am
much more likely to help someone that is polite. That is MY choice.
I only help on problems that interest me. If someone can be bothered
to follow list guidelines, that person just lost my interest.

By beliefs is that if someone does not care enough about following
the list guidelines when asking for help, they they are not worth
helping. Are telling me I can not follow my beliefs?

 It takes people with many different views to make a good product. If I
 banned everyone from my workplace who doesn't think as I do, then I'd be
 standing in the building alone. With nothing to show for it.
 
I guess you have never seen a No shoes, no shirt, no service.
sign, or don't believe you have to follow that type of sign. There
are plenty of companies that will refuse to do business with you if
you don't want to conform to expected behavior. This has almost
nothing to do with your beliefs, and everything to do polite
behavior. (Some people believe that helping someone that is not even
related to them is foolish. Being polite is an even worse offense.)

On that point, welcome to my kill file.

Mikkel
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A:  Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q:  Why is top-posting a bad thing?




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Re: Battery - Control Screen brightness

2009-09-13 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Mail Lists wrote:
   Gnome - F11. When I unplug and go on battery - the screen dims. The
 power applet for non-battery has a slider for screen brightness. The
 battery tab only has a button to click to dim screen - i have that set
 to no.
 
   Yet - when I go on power the screen dims. Is there a slider somewhere
 to set screen brightness when on battery ? If not - is there a gnome
 registery setting ?
 
 
The hardware laptop brightness has no further effect - pressing it
 shows the brightness to full - clearly it is not. As soon as I plug
 power back in the screen gets brighter.
 
   Thanks for help.
 
 gene/
 
I am not at my laptop, so I can not check the power management
options/ But there is also an applet for Gnome that will set
brightness for most laptops. If you right-click on the top bar, and
click Add to Panel..., you can add the Brightness Applet to
control screen brightness.

I will have to double check what the power savings configuration
program is called, and where it is, but I remember all kinds of
settings for things like dimming the screen when idle, setting
screen brightness, etc when on battery power.

Two things to keep in mind - the brightness settings do not work for
all laptops, and some BIOSs have settings that control how the
laptop behaves when it goes to battery power. If your laptop turns
out to be one that in not fully supported yes, then you will need to
file a bug report.

Mikkel
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for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup!



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Re: snip extraneous quotes from your posts to the list, dammit

2009-09-13 Thread Peter l Jakobi
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 08:55:24PM +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
 2009/9/13 Peter l Jakobi li...@kefk.oa.shuttle.de:
 
 Again, I'm not too fussed - I work in a Microsoft Environment where
 most people do this - I respect the etiquette guidelines of the list
 on this, but I don't usually castigate people for it.

On  a  good  day,  my  tolerance is a bit  higher  for  this  kind  of
inpoliteness.  But  after  10 hours or so this grows thin. And  in  my
spare  time  after hours, there's also the added lack of  payment  for
tolerating such behaviour.


Top-posting  might make sense to contain the full history within  each
mail in a 1:1 exchange in a biz setting.

But  it breaks BADLY as soon as more people participate (other than as
silent cc:-to-archive or cc:-to-management recipients). In the general
case it's really nice to observe that soon NOBODY will have either the
complete  list  of recipients or the full history of  the  discussion.
With  subsequent  wasted  time, uninformed project  members  and  more
expensive  side-effects. 

Get  the peanuts, lean back and enjoy the chaos. But also be  prepared
for   the  risk  of  late-night  after-hours  obligatory-participation
telephone conferences...


A  saner work-around for this would be a single mailinglist alias plus
a list archive to keep the history. Like this list offers.

But  then  there's no more need at all for keeping the  history  as
TOFU and wasting a large number of recipients' time...


What's  that  saying? On the internet, it's always  September.  IMHO
outlook's  TOFU tendencies rather add to the mess school accounts  and
AOL  created. 

Perhaps  it's  just time to extend the usual SPAM filter with  a  TOFU
filter  to  blackhole  such  postings early both  at  the  mailinglist
alias-level  and  in the personal .procmailrc... . Maybe even  with  a
polite  posting  pointing to the netiquette and some  instructions  on
proper email reformatting for successful redistribution :.

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