Re: Kernel boot problems or is my hard drive failing ?
On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 09:23 +1100, Chris Smart wrote: 2010/1/6 Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com: Is anyone else experiencing a problem booting ? Does this sound like a kernel problem or is my hard drive failing ? If your drive and BIOS supports S.M.A.R.T, then gnome-disk-utility (palimpsest) will tell you the status of your drive.. I can't seem to find this utility in Fedora. Can someone verify its spelling/existence ? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kernel boot problems or is my hard drive failing ?
On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 16:48 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 08:35:43 -0700, Linuxguy123 wrote: On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 09:23 +1100, Chris Smart wrote: 2010/1/6 Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com: Is anyone else experiencing a problem booting ? Does this sound like a kernel problem or is my hard drive failing ? If your drive and BIOS supports S.M.A.R.T, then gnome-disk-utility (palimpsest) will tell you the status of your drive.. I can't seem to find this utility in Fedora. Can someone verify its spelling/existence ? You can, too: yum search palim Found it and installed it. Its a very useful application. It was part of the gnome-disk-utility package. I missed that part in the op. My disk is SMART enabled and the utility reports that it is healthy. I have a booting problem to look into. Thanks for the help. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Kernel boot problems or is my hard drive failing ?
If I power down my laptop via the usual KStart-Shutdown means, it can take up to 4 restart attempts before it fully boots. It has no problem launching grub and the kernel selection screen. That it does reliably every time. After that, there are issues. Twice I will get a back screen with a flashing cursor. Then I will get an ehci -19 error. Then it will boot properly. My fscks are fine. I had a block error once, about two weeks ago, but that was with an older F12 kernel after completely crashing during a resume from suspend to RAM. Is anyone else experiencing a problem booting ? Does this sound like a kernel problem or is my hard drive failing ? Thanks $ uname -a Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.31.9-174.fc12.i686.PAE #1 SMP Mon Dec 21 06:04:56 UTC 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What is the smallest device that will run Fedora 12 ? Evolution ? Kontact ?
On Sun, 2009-12-27 at 19:52 -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: On 12/23/2009 01:14 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: I might get an N900 just for myself. What would stop one from running Fedora on it ? I guess ubuntu would be a closer fit ? You would have to repackage the GSM pieces and compile a custom kernel. Simply installing Fedora 12 wouldn't be good enough. Plus to install anything in Extras you would need to be actively repackaging from deb to RPM. I've had my N900 since it was released and I don't see what all the hype around deb is. +1. Ubuntu is the same way. I love rpm and yum and their graphical counterparts. You have to know twice as much commands and arguments to find out package information compared to RPM. Agreed. How are you liking your N900 and any thoughts on running Fedora on it ? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
What is the smallest device that will run Fedora 12 ? Evolution ? Kontact ?
My wife is a busy professional person. The organization she works for uses Microsoft applications for scheduling and email. The users access their information via web browsers. She is using the Safari browser on her iPhone to gain access to her information. My wife needs better access to her schedule and email. Right now if she doesn't have an Internet connection she doesn't have access. And the web user interface was designed to be used with a desktop computer with a large monitor, not a small handheld device like an iPhone. There must be a better way. I understand that some of the OS desktop apps (Evolution and Kontact) are going to be working with Microsoft Exchange. I suspect that when they do she will be able to access her information via them. So what is the smallest practical device that will run F12 ? How else could one run apps like Evolution and Contact on a small device ? Could they be made to run on a Symbian device ? What about Android ? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What is the smallest device that will run Fedora 12 ? Evolution ? Kontact ?
On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 10:00 -0700, Kevin Kempter wrote: On Wednesday 23 December 2009 09:53:56 Linuxguy123 wrote: So what is the smallest practical device that will run F12 ? How else could one run apps like Evolution and Contact on a small device ? Could they be made to run on a Symbian device ? What about Android ? Thanks The nokia N900 runs debian, you can open a terminal, tweak the sources and install things via dpkg. I have a co-worker that has one - it's pretty impressive. I felt foolish posting this question but now I am very glad I did. Is the n900 running Debian out of the box or did your friend load it with Debian ? Is Maemo Debian ? What Linux apps will it run ? Does it have Gnome/Qt/KDE ? It must support Qt apps because Nokia bought Qt. Has anyone here fooled around with putting mainstream Linux apps on the N900 ? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What is the smallest device that will run Fedora 12 ? Evolution ? Kontact ?
On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 12:52 -0500, Mike Wohlgemuth wrote: On 12/23/2009 11:53 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote: How else could one run apps like Evolution and Contact on a small device ? Could they be made to run on a Symbian device ? What about Android ? You might want to check out Davmail: http://davmail.sourceforge.net/ It will talk to Microsoft's web based mail/scheduler and proxy it as more standard protocols. Then your small device only needs to talk those standard protocols to interact. It would mean that you would have to have tomcat or something installed on an internet accessible host, but that seems easier than figuring out how to get evolution onto symbian or android. Woogie Nice reply ! Thanks, I really appreciate it ! LG -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What is the smallest device that will run Fedora 12 ? Evolution ? Kontact ?
On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 10:58 -0700, Kevin Kempter wrote: On Wednesday 23 December 2009 10:42:50 Linuxguy123 wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 10:00 -0700, Kevin Kempter wrote: On Wednesday 23 December 2009 09:53:56 Linuxguy123 wrote: So what is the smallest practical device that will run F12 ? How else could one run apps like Evolution and Contact on a small device ? Could they be made to run on a Symbian device ? What about Android ? Thanks The nokia N900 runs debian, you can open a terminal, tweak the sources and install things via dpkg. I have a co-worker that has one - it's pretty impressive. I felt foolish posting this question but now I am very glad I did. Is the n900 running Debian out of the box or did your friend load it with Debian ? Is Maemo Debian ? What Linux apps will it run ? Does it have Gnome/Qt/KDE ? It must support Qt apps because Nokia bought Qt. Has anyone here fooled around with putting mainstream Linux apps on the N900 ? It's Maemo Debian, came that way out of the box I've read a few posts about folks installing mainstream apps on it with success. I dont think it has KDE/Gnome, it's a touch-screen maemo specific interface. I'll know more in the coming weeks, Mine is due to be delivered today Please let me/us (?) know how you like it. It would be SO sweet to be running Linux on our phones, laptops and servers ! One OS and so much flexibility, not have to learn some new SDK, etc. We are quite disappointed with my wife's iPhone. Everything is so locked up. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What is the smallest device that will run Fedora 12 ? Evolution ? Kontact ?
On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 10:26 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Wednesday 23 December 2009 10:18 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote: We are quite disappointed with my wife's iPhone. Everything is so locked up. A friend of mine jailbroke his iPhone. He can do all sorts of cool stuff including having a terminal and using ssh to log into our lab servers. ;) They must be jailbroken if you want to do much with them. We wanted a good Skype/ VOIP application since the 3G network coverage isn't nearly as good as plain GSM. I think I would much, much prefer the N900. I found out that davmail can be use with an iPhone. We'll see what my wife says. I might get an N900 just for myself. What would stop one from running Fedora on it ? I guess ubuntu would be a closer fit ? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What is the smallest device that will run Fedora 12 ? Evolution ? Kontact ?
On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 10:58 -0700, Kevin Kempter wrote: It's Maemo Debian, came that way out of the box I've read a few posts about folks installing mainstream apps on it with success. I dont think it has KDE/Gnome, it's a touch-screen maemo specific interface. I'll know more in the coming weeks, Mine is due to be delivered today This is the coolest device ever ! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maemo I wonder if I could get the TI89 calculator emulator running on it ? Then I wouldn't have to carry both a phone and a calculator around. I lose about 1 TI89 calculator a year and I hate how dim the TI89 display is. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What is the smallest device that will run Fedora 12 ? Evolution ? Kontact ?
On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 15:39 -0500, Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 10:26 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Wednesday 23 December 2009 10:18 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote: We are quite disappointed with my wife's iPhone. Everything is so locked up. A friend of mine jailbroke his iPhone. He can do all sorts of cool stuff including having a terminal and using ssh to log into our lab servers. ;) You don't need to jailbreak to use ssh to log into your lab servers--there's an app (or three) for that. It even does X, and there's a VNC client, too. There's even an app for tn3270 for those of us who still need to talk to IBM mainframes. You do need to jailbreak to log into your iPhone from your lab servers, though... I agree, I don't like how locked up it is, but it does do slick like Apple always does. It looks like Android and some other smartphone OS's will be promising competitors, though. We'll see when my contract expires what the next-gen Droid looks like. I know its off topic from Fedora, but Maemo looks very slick. Its starting to build a base of users and developers. And although its Gnome based, it now supports Qt stuff and a switch or full dual support can't be far off being that Nokia bought Qt. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: All I want for Christmas is digiKam 1.0 in F12-stable...
On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 11:46 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote: Linuxguy123 wrote: digiKam 1.0.0 was released today. I think a lot of us are running 1.0-beta 6 installed via yum. Would it be possible to get 1.0.0 into F12 stable prior to Christmas ? https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/digikam-1.0.0-1.fc12 stable that quickly? I'd feel a bit uncomfortable without at least some testing and positive feedback. Nice job providing a means for installation without building from source and so quickly. Good work. As for installation, doing a straight rpm -i over the -beta6 install resulted in a slew of error messages regarding file conflicts. I did a yum remove digikam and then an rpm -i and everything worked fine. Thanks again. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: All I want for Christmas is digiKam 1.0 in F12-stable...
On Tue, 2009-12-22 at 09:18 -0600, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: As for installation, doing a straight rpm -i over the -beta6 install resulted in a slew of error messages regarding file conflicts. I did a yum remove digikam and then an rpm -i and everything worked fine. That's to be expected, as rpm -i installs a package without removing the old one. Unless the package is specially designed (like the kernel) you'll get conflicts. Normally, you'd want to use rpm -U which will remove the old package before installing the new one. DOH, what the heck was I thinking ? I KNEW that. Sheesh ! :smacks forehead with open hand: I was thinking it was an install because I had downloaded the rpms. I don't usually have to download rpms to do updates because I just use yum. Thanks for the reply. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
How many people need to use the proprietary nvidia driver ? (Or other non kms driver ?)
Please reply if you need to ( ie must) use the proprietary nvidia driver instead of the nouveau driver. Or some other video driver that doesn't support kernel mode switching. DON'T reply otherwise, I don't want to hear a debate on the free versions versus proprietary or anything else. If you are using the proprietary nvidia driver or some other non kms equipped driver, how are you finding F12 ? Ie do you experience freezing when you access some panel items ? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
All I want for Christmas is digiKam 1.0 in F12-stable...
digiKam 1.0.0 was released today. I think a lot of us are running 1.0-beta 6 installed via yum. Would it be possible to get 1.0.0 into F12 stable prior to Christmas ? I know I can build it from source, but I need to install it on several machines and it would be much easier to do it via a yum update. I'm also behind on my Christmas shopping... Thanks for listening. Season's Greetings ! LG -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: I upgraded to F12 and I can only run a console session. Help ! (wifii administration from a console ?)
On Sun, 2009-12-13 at 15:57 +0100, Julian Aloofi wrote: linux guy - Sunday 13 December 2009 15:34:41: I installed cnetwork manager and I can't get a wifi connection for some reason. I invoke cnetworkmanager -C myISSD options and hangs. If you're connecting to a wireless network you need: cnetworkmanager -C yourSSID --SECURITY where SECURITY can be: --unprotected for an unprotected network --wep-pass=PASSWORD for WEP secured networks --wpa-pass=PASSWORD for WPA secured networks e.g. $cnetworkmanager -C mynetwork --wpa-pass=hqlo2547 Yeah, I used the security options, that is why I had options in my command above. It didn't work. Fortunately my cabled connection did work and yum update fixed everything. I am now running F12 with zero problems. Thanks for the help. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora 12 -- A great new version !
On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 16:44 -0500, William Case wrote: Hi; Just thought I would say I really really like Fedora 12. It feels like a Christmas gift. I upgraded from F11 this morning with no difficulties -- worked like a charm. Everything looks and feels a little cleaner and a little tighter. The upgrading process (which I couldn't get to work for me in F11) found the upgrades for all my applications except one small minor accessory. I had hoped the cx23885 driver for v4l2 had been fixed to handle analog cable TV, but I guess not. However, that's an ongoing problem not related to the upgrade per se. I for one am very pleased. If any of the maintainers are reading this list, congratulations! +1. Agreed. I updated from F11 based on this. Due to /boot space issues I upgraded using the F12 DVD. I didn't have video or a network connection at first boot. Somehow DHCP was disabled for eth0. I fixed that, ran yum update and pretty much everything is golden. I can't believe how much more responsive F12 is than F11. And it looks more polished too. Great work, people. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How do I load mp3s on my iPhone in F12 ? And other iPhone/F12 questions.
On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 17:38 -0600, Peter Danenberg wrote: Quoth Patrick O'Callaghan on Sweetmorn, the 54th of The Aftermath: Alternatively, you could jailbreak the phone and copy files using scp. I don't know if the phone will then recognize them as something it can play, but I wouldn't bet on it. I was able to use gtkpod[1] on a jailbroken iphone to transfer music, manage playlists, photos, etc. Footnotes: [1] http://www.gtkpod.org/about.html Thanks ! This was very helpful. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 01:11 +, Amadeus W.M. wrote: I just finished installing F12 on a 64 bit machine and I have to say, so far this seems to be the best Fedora so far. +1 F12 is friggin amazing. I yearned for an OS like this for so many years. Back in the pre Windows 3.0 days (1988-90) I was running all sorts of PC Unixes trying to get something that was stable and had a rich feature set. When Windows shipped I wanted a GUI on top of Unix. 20 years later I have it - and more. Linux is way, way more than I ever envisioned a Unix OS could be. Not only do we have a Unix compatible OS, we have a complete GUI, actually 2 or three of them, a whole swarm of tools and stuff that I never imagined. Just look at Eclipse ! And its all open source ! And its all free ! I first used Linux in 1996. I was thrilled but still wanting. Open Office wasn't available, it was time intensive to set up different hardware, etc. But it was light and fast. I was hooked. Now look at Linux. Its friggin amazing. And so is modern PC hardware, especially LCD monitors, laptops, etc. I remember the days of being over the moon at having access to a Sun workstation. I remember drooling over a Next machine. We have come so far. Its incredible, it really is. Nothing is going to stop this juggernaut. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Why are some file operations so slow ?
Some file operations seem extremely slow on my computer. Its a laptop with 2 hard drives, a T8400 processor and 4 GB of RAM. $ uname -a Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.31.6-166.fc12.i686.PAE #1 SMP Wed Dec 9 11:00:30 EST 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux $ rpm -q kdelibs kdelibs-4.3.3-4.fc12.i686 Certain file operations seem to take a long time. Right Click-Delete in Dolphin, for example. Or creating a new directory to save a file in from within Fireofox when doing a Save As. Why is this ? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
How do I load mp3s on my iPhone in F12 ? And other iPhone/F12 questions.
How do I load mp3s onto my iPhone in F12 ? Is there a way to use an iPhone as a data modem via Bluetooth ? Is there a way to have a Bluetooth phone operate with F12 like it does with Microsoft Sync in a car ? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 updates-testing issue: X flickers and fails to start
On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 10:36 +0100, Michal Schmidt wrote: On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 11:12:07 +0200 (EET) Pekka Savola wrote: Now gdm login however doesn't show my username and fingerprint login is no longer an option Looks like the issue with hal-0.5.14-1: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F12/FEDORA-2009-12840 I think it has something to do with display power management and the monitor brightness level. I can replicate the behavior by simply adjusting the display brightness in a KDE session. I have logged 2 bugs that are possibly related to this. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528188 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525767 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: F12 updates-testing issue: X flickers and fails to start
On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 06:27 -0700, Linuxguy123 wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 10:36 +0100, Michal Schmidt wrote: On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 11:12:07 +0200 (EET) Pekka Savola wrote: Now gdm login however doesn't show my username and fingerprint login is no longer an option Looks like the issue with hal-0.5.14-1: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F12/FEDORA-2009-12840 I think it has something to do with display power management and the monitor brightness level. I can replicate the behavior by simply adjusting the display brightness in a KDE session. I have logged 2 bugs that are possibly related to this. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528188 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525767 I recommend connecting an external monitor to see if the issue is display specific and have you tried ctrl-alt-F6 to get to a console at login and then going back to the X session with ctrl-alt-F1 ? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: F12 updates-testing issue: X flickers and fails to start
On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 18:36 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Linuxguy123 wrote: I have logged 2 bugs that are possibly related to this. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528188 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525767 Huh? One of these is a Nouveau bug, the other is a bug in the proprietary nvidia driver, both of them already happened with F12 as released, so these have absolutely nothing to do with this thread. That is what you say. How exactly did you determine that ? OR are you guessing ? I say they have similar symptoms. I said they *might* be related. I bet my bugs have nothing to do with the nouveau or nvidia drivers. I've been saying that all along. I guess we will find out. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?
On Thu, 2009-11-26 at 14:01 +, Terry Barnaby wrote: Ok, controversial title. I have just tried to test install F12 on some of my systems, (5 different ones). All of these bar 1 has problems with the graphics (X11 lockups, system lockups and other problems) mainly in 3D but also in 2D. I still am using F8 on most of my systems as the Graphics systems have not been stable enough for 3D in Fedora since around those times. I know there is a lot of work going on in the graphics front, I myself have worked on and fed back issues as time and ability allow. During F11 I helped with some issues, but unfortunately none of these made it back into updates for F11 and now F12 is out with yet more issues. The Linux kernel is generally relatively stable, as is the main system libraries etc in Fedora. The core issues most people seem to be facing is Graphics and Sound issues. Obviously a major issue with Graphics is the sheer number of different graphics chip sets in use and the lack of documentation for quite a few of them. Due to this it requires a lot of user testing and feedback to get these issues sorted out. Unfortunately the very fast Fedora new release schedule gets in the way of getting this testing done and things do not get fixed prior to a new release which introduces yet another set of problems. The new release speed also uses a lot of developer and user time in just managing to create a new release and updating systems to use it. I know the quick release cycle is one of Fedora's features in its aim to be close to the leading edge, but this has to be balanced with usability otherwise there will be few people actually using it in anger and thus actually testing the software. This could lead to the demise of Fedora. As an idea, at this stage, how about canceling the F13 release and just fixing and updating the F12 release ? This will concentrate developers and users into one system release. Similar to the pre-release test days we could have post-release test days. For example a Graphics test day for F12 where a certain set of tests with a test suite and a set of well known applications could be run. As F12 would be out longer, more people could participate in this. If a commitment, all round, to producing updates fixing the issues in F12 were made, I think more people would be willing to participate as users could expect to see a stable system for their efforts. +1 on this. I have 4 bugs entered into bugzilla related to display problems and none of them get any attention. I even posted a warning to the group about this matter. (See November 16, Warning about possible display issues with F12 upgrade.) For KDE users, this situation has been building for a while. Back in F9 the Folderview widget didn't work correctly with some nvidia cards, supposedly because of issues in the proprietary nvidia driver. The developer's response to this: tough luck for using a proprietary driver. Now that the open source nvidia driver is out they say to use it. The problem with nouveau is that it has just as many or more problems than the proprietary driver, albeit in different areas. I am not buying that all of the display problems are caused by the proprietary driver. And if they are, why do these bugs get closed ? They should be forwarded to nvidia for work. Aside: I know, the bug reporter should forward them to nvidia. But then why even report a bug to the Redhat bugzilla ? EVERYTHING is upstream to them ! And the problem with reporting the bug (non proprietary nvidia) upstream is that they say that we aren't running the general release of the component, we are running the Fedora version and thus Fedora should fix it. I am VERY frustrated with the state of the display components right now. I am quite frustrated with how display component bugs are handled by the Fedora developers. I think some things need to change. I'm holding back from upgrading to F12 until I hear that some of these issues are resolved. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?
On Thu, 2009-11-26 at 20:13 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Specific bug reports are definitely going to help. Here are 4 to start with: 1) Cronometer crashes KDE session. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=504173 2) Display not operating properly https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528188 Notice that this uses nouveau and it was reported back in rawhide. 3) Blank screen on login https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525767 4) KDE session display gets messed up on Gateway LT3108u https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525767 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Is F12 ready to upgrade ? Is it worth it ?
I'm perplexed by the posts I am seeing regarding F12 upgrades. Lots of upgrade issues and darn faint praise as far as I can tell ? I was expecting a totally different response. Is F12 stable enough to warrant upgrading to it ? Is it a worthwhile upgrade at this point ? Thanks. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is F12 ready to upgrade ? Is it worth it ?
On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 09:19 -0700, Craig White wrote: Problems seem to relate to nVidia video, kernel mode setting. Tell us more... I'm reading a lot of posts here but not getting the picture. Which nvidia devices, which driver (nvidia proprietary or nouveau) and what is the work around if it doesn't work after the upgrade ? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 work around for out of space on /boot for preupgrade?
On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 10:02 -0600, Steven Stern wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I deleted the old kernels and freed up space in /boot. Now, when I reboot after preupgrade, it tells me I'm still 1.1 MiB short. I don't see anything else I can delete and I suspect resizing /boot would be a real pain. There is an upgrade directory on /boot. Can I move the upgrade directory to another partition and link them? That is, will this work? cd /boot mv upgrade /tmp/upgrade ln -s /tmp/upgrade upgrade I am wondering if running gparted from a live disk would allow you to resize /boot without losing any data. Please keep us informed... I have exactly 187 MB free after cleaning up and that is supposedly how much it needs. How much free space do you have ? (df -h) Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F12 installs report here.
Subject says it all. Tell us about your experience. LG -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 installs report here.
On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 14:56 -0600, Steven Stern wrote: Sound Just Works! Including the stuff from RPM Fusion. Now that is good news ! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 upgrade needs more space for /mnt/sysimage/boot
On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 01:43 +, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All, When upgrading from F11 to F12 with preupgrade, I get an error message telling me I need more space for /mnt/sysimage/boot. Any ideas? This was a known potential issue discussed on the Fedora Developer forum a few days ago. Search for FESCO ticket#270 - preupgrade and F-12 on Fedora-devel-list for more information. You might want to post there too and see if they have any suggestions for getting your system upgraded. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Warning about possible display issues with F12 upgrade.
Just a heads up that I know of at least 2 F12 show stoppers (as far as upgrading goes) wherein the computer screen doesn't display the session properly. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529128 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528188 Both of these cases involve NON proprietary display drivers. If you Google a bit you might find other cases that involve non proprietary and proprietary drivers. Long explanation short, I would run F12 live before I did a blind upgrade to make sure that the video display is going to operate properly once you do upgrade. Hope this helps someone. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How do I share a wireless network connection with a wired device ?
On Fri, 2009-11-13 at 06:59 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Linuxguy123 writes: So, I reverted to using system-config-network and firestarter. I disabled NetworkManager controlling the devices. Firestarter kept saying that eth0 wasn't ready and crashing. I know I've run into this problem before with statically configured ports and firestarter, but I can't remember what I did to fix it. This is way harder than it needs to be ! I'm hoping the Network Manager in F12 will be a little more refined. Sometimes, it's easier to configure things directly by editing the contents of /etc/sysconfig, rather than try to figure out how to do it using some flashy GUI. What you want to do is not really that exotic. However it is also rather uncommon, so, sometimes, you find that the tools which are designed for average users and common situations simply cannot accomodate an unusual situation, even though, underneath, it's not really that complicated. I agree. I was disappointed that I couldn't get it set up with system-config-network and firestarter. I'll look back in my Linux notes and see if I can figure out why firestarter is crashing with eth0 enabled statically. Any ideas ? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Recent kernels don't play well with suspend-to-disk
On Fri, 2009-11-13 at 16:48 -0800, Geoffrey Leach wrote: Kernels since kernel-PAE-2.6.30.5-43.fc11.i686 up to and incuding kernel-PAE-2.6.30.9-96.fc11.i686 seem to have a problem with suspend- to-disk. Why do I say this? Two behaviors. First, up until the most recent kernel, I get non-fatal kernel errors that resulted in a spew of error messages to each active terminal window, sometimes accompanied by a notice that kerneloops has sent off a report. This, of course, after one or more resume-from-disk. Reboot cures the problem temporarliy. The most recent kernel failed toresume-from-disk in the boot process, freezing up with a bunch of page fault errors. (Yes, I know I shoud have copied/saved all of this). The only variable here appears to be the kernel rebooting with 2.6.30.5-43 makes the problem vanish. Obviosuly there's not enough here to debug the problem. The fact that its not going away suggests that the kerneloops reports are insufficient. So, (a) anyone else having the problem? (b) suggestions for gathering enough data to make a Bugzilla report worthwhile? ASUS Z84F w/ Intel Core 2 Duo T5500, 1666 MHz, INTEL 945GM chipset, AET760SD00-30DA98Z 2x1 GB DDR2-667 DDR2 SDRAM, Seagate Momentus 7200.1 series ST910021A I have the same problem with suspend to RAM. I am running a PAE kernel too. I never use suspend to disk. LG -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: FESCO ticket#270 - preupgrade and F-12
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 14:56 -0500, James Laska wrote: Greetings folks, After careful review by Will Woods around recently discovered problems related to preupgrading to Fedora 12, I've filed ticket#270 (https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/270) for discussion at the next FESCO meeting. Please take a moment to read the details in the ticket. The high-level summary from Will ... preupgrade to F12 is basically not going to work for anyone without significant manual workarounds, due to insufficient disk space on /boot. How much disk space will one require on /boot to perform the update without work arounds ? Can gparted resize /boot ? Thanks -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: FESCO ticket#270 - preupgrade and F-12
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 15:10 -0500, James Laska wrote: On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 13:00 -0700, Linuxguy123 wrote: On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 14:56 -0500, James Laska wrote: Greetings folks, After careful review by Will Woods around recently discovered problems related to preupgrading to Fedora 12, I've filed ticket#270 (https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/270) for discussion at the next FESCO meeting. Please take a moment to read the details in the ticket. The high-level summary from Will ... preupgrade to F12 is basically not going to work for anyone without significant manual workarounds, due to insufficient disk space on /boot. How much disk space will one require on /boot to perform the update without work arounds ? From the ticket (see URL above). Here's the details. The default /boot partition is 200MB, but there's some overhead: Ext3/Ext4 overhead: 7MB Reserved space: 10MB F11 kernel: 8MB (at least - usually 3 kernels = 24MB) GRUB/EFI files: 1MB Total overhead: 26MB So there's 174MB of usable space maximum, and usually 158MB available. preupgrade now requires at least 167MB free space on /boot: F12 installer images: 143MB (8mb larger than F11!) F12 kernel: 18MB (10mb larger than F11!) RPM/anaconda tmpfiles: =8MB (measured in stupid tests) Total: 167MB (Was 149MB in F11 - no problem!) With all my kernels removed except the current one, I have this: # df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda2 143G 89G 47G 66% / /dev/sda1 190M 14M 167M 8% /boot tmpfs 2.0G 88K 2.0G 1% /dev/shm /dev/sdb1 294G 242G 37G 87% /data uname -a Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.30.9-96.fc11.i686.PAE #1 SMP Tue Nov 3 23:41:33 EST 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
How do I share a wireless network connection with a wired device ?
I need a wired Ethernet connection between my laptop and a device. The device sends a high bandwidth UDP video stream to the laptop to save on its hard drive. The device also needs light, intermittent access to the Internet. I would like to provide this via the Wifi card in my laptop. My laptop has a wireless card and a wired Ethernet device (NIC). I have a crossover cable going between my laptop and the device. I am running F11 and network manager. I found this article: http://jeremy.visser.name/2009/03/24/simple-internet-connection-sharing-with-networkmanager/ Its interesting, but I think it misses a lot of details on how to set this up. I want my laptop to act as a DNS server to the device and allow it to connect to the laptop via the crossover cable and the wired Ethernet port. I also want my laptop to connect to the Internet via the wireless card and share that connection with the device. I've got my wireless connection up and running. I've got the wired connection to the device working, ie NetworkManager-Connection Information shows an IP address, speed, etc. (IP address = 10.42.43.1) I edited my wireless connection and set IPV4 Method to Shared to other computer. I installed dnsmasq. I turned on the DNSmasq server service. In system-config-firewall.py, I did the following: - trusted the wired Ethernet port. - trusted DNS and Multicast DNS - turned on masquerading for the wired ethernet port - applied all these In spite of all this my device is not getting an IP address. What am I missing ? How and what am I supposed to setup in the details for the wired ethernet device ? (ie NetworkManager- Edit Connections- Wired - Edit (device name)... It has fields for MAC address (blank), MTU (automatic), 802.1x Security (disabled) and IPV4 Settings Method (). If one selects Automatic (DHCP), is that saying we are expecting another server to give this port an IP address OR is that saying that the laptop will serve a DHCP address to any computer that requests it ? I guess what I am asking is, how do I tell the laptop to serve addresses to clients on the wired Ethernet port ? Thanks ! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How do I share a wireless network connection with a wired device ?
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 20:25 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Linuxguy123 writes: In system-config-firewall.py, I did the following: - trusted the wired Ethernet port. - trusted DNS and Multicast DNS - turned on masquerading for the wired ethernet port - applied all these In spite of all this my device is not getting an IP address. What am I missing ? I say you're missing the correct configuration for your wired segment, and you're missing a DHCP server. I guess what I am asking is, how do I tell the laptop to serve addresses to clients on the wired Ethernet port ? For starters, you need to assign a static IP address for your wired interface. Your narrative did not include the low-level configuration details of both your wired and your wireless interfaces. I'm guessing that you probably configured both your wired and your wireless interfaces to use automatic settings. That works for wireless, since your wireless address point is handing your laptop an IP address. That won't work for your wired segment, since there's nothing on your wired segment to give your laptop an IP address for its wired network interface, all you have is some dumb device there. Your laptop needs to take charge of the wired segment, and run the whole show. Presuming that your access point is assigning your laptop an IP address in the 192.168.0.0/24 range, the logical netblock for your wired segment would be 192.168.1.0/24, so you'll need to configure your laptop's wired interface to a static netblock of 192.168.1.0, and a static IP address of 192.168.1.1. You do that in Network Configuration. Bring up Network Configuration, and edit your wired interface address. Turn off all options, including Controlled by NetworkManager. Turn on Activate device when computer starts, select Statically set IP addresses, put in an address of 192.168.1.1, subnet mask 255.255.255.0, and leave the gateway address blank, together with all the DNS fields. If, on the other hand, your wireless access point is giving your wireless interface an 192.168.1.x netblock IP address, you'll just need to turn around and set up your wired interface to use the 192.168.0.0/24 range instead. Your wired and your wireless interfaces must be on different netblock segments, and your laptop bridges the two. That's how it works. Then: yum install dhcp chkconfig on dhcp (so that dhcp starts when you boot your laptop). man dhcpd.conf (a lot of reading goes here) emacs /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf You probably need to do add something like this in your dhcpd.conf file (presuming that you're using 192.168.1.0/24 for your wired segment): subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0; allow unknown-clients; option routers 192.168.1.1; option domain-name-servers 192.168.1.1; range 192.168.1.129 192.168.1.159; default-lease-time 604800; max-lease-time 604800; } Since, as you say, you're using dnsmasq, you'll need to tell your DHCP client (your wired device), that your wired interface's IP address is going to be its DNS server (option domain-name-servers), also that your wired device needs to use your wired interface as its router (option routers). Oh, and you'll probably need to reboot, too. But, but, but... I thought Network Manager had these spiffy options that allowed one to do this all automatically with the correct selection of values in a few drop downs ? Its too much work to set up the DHCP part of this. I'm going to give my port a static IP via NetworkManager and set the IP on my device to be static as well then. It doesn't pay to go through all this for just one device connection. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How do I share a wireless network connection with a wired device ?
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 20:25 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Linuxguy123 writes: In system-config-firewall.py, I did the following: - trusted the wired Ethernet port. - trusted DNS and Multicast DNS - turned on masquerading for the wired ethernet port - applied all these In spite of all this my device is not getting an IP address. What am I missing ? I say you're missing the correct configuration for your wired segment, and you're missing a DHCP server. I guess what I am asking is, how do I tell the laptop to serve addresses to clients on the wired Ethernet port ? For starters, you need to assign a static IP address for your wired interface. Your narrative did not include the low-level configuration details of both your wired and your wireless interfaces. I'm guessing that you probably configured both your wired and your wireless interfaces to use automatic settings. That works for wireless, since your wireless address point is handing your laptop an IP address. That won't work for your wired segment, since there's nothing on your wired segment to give your laptop an IP address for its wired network interface, all you have is some dumb device there. Your laptop needs to take charge of the wired segment, and run the whole show. Presuming that your access point is assigning your laptop an IP address in the 192.168.0.0/24 range, the logical netblock for your wired segment would be 192.168.1.0/24, so you'll need to configure your laptop's wired interface to a static netblock of 192.168.1.0, and a static IP address of 192.168.1.1. You do that in Network Configuration. Bring up Network Configuration, and edit your wired interface address. Turn off all options, including Controlled by NetworkManager. Turn on Activate device when computer starts, select Statically set IP addresses, put in an address of 192.168.1.1, subnet mask 255.255.255.0, and leave the gateway address blank, together with all the DNS fields. If, on the other hand, your wireless access point is giving your wireless interface an 192.168.1.x netblock IP address, you'll just need to turn around and set up your wired interface to use the 192.168.0.0/24 range instead. Your wired and your wireless interfaces must be on different netblock segments, and your laptop bridges the two. That's how it works. Thanks for this reply. It was helpful. I knew that the wired port's address couldn't be set by DHCP because its not connecting to a DNS server. It is the server. I don't want to go to the trouble of setting up a DHCP server. I thought that was going to happen automagically. So I gave my wired port and the device addresses myself. However, the device still isn't happy. It doesn't have Internet access. I know that I can do this all manually by deactivating Networkmanager, setting things up in system-config-network and in Firestarter, because I have done it before, but I want to see how easy it is, or not, using Network Manager. My wireless router is giving my laptop an IP of 192.168.1.x. So I gave my wired port an address of 192.168.0.0 in NetworkManager. I used a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0. What is the gateway for this port ? I put it to 192.168.1.1, because that is how it would reach the Internet, but the software sets it to 0.0.0.0 when I apply it. ? I left DNS servers blank but somehow it automagically set the Search Domains to be my ISP. I haven't added any routes. On my device, I set its IP address to 192.168.0.10, subnet mask to 255.255.255.0 and gateway to 192.168.0.1 because that is the laptops wired port. I've got masquerading set up in the firewall. Why can't my device talk to the Internet via my laptop ? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How do I share a wireless network connection with a wired device ?
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 21:40 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Linuxguy123 writes: What is the gateway for this port ? I put it to 192.168.1.1, because that is how it would reach the Internet, but the software sets it to 0.0.0.0 when I apply it. ? No gateway setting. The gateway setting is applicable to the entire host, not a single network interface. OK I left DNS servers blank but somehow it automagically set the Search Domains to be my ISP. I haven't added any routes. On my device, I set its IP address to 192.168.0.10, subnet mask to 255.255.255.0 and gateway to 192.168.0.1 because that is the laptops wired port. No, you just said, above, that you've set the wired network interface's IP address to 192.168.0.0, and not 192.168.0.1. The wired network interface has an IP of 192.168.0.1. I changed the settings to match what you recommended. No joy using Network Manager. One problem is that the IPV4 settings don't make any sense. If I set the Wifi port to share this with other computers, it doesn't get an IP address assigned to it. Hmm... There is an IPV4 setting of Local Link I wonder what that means. NetworkManager doesn't appear to have a help system ? So, I reverted to using system-config-network and firestarter. I disabled NetworkManager controlling the devices. Firestarter kept saying that eth0 wasn't ready and crashing. I know I've run into this problem before with statically configured ports and firestarter, but I can't remember what I did to fix it. This is way harder than it needs to be ! I'm hoping the Network Manager in F12 will be a little more refined. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Getting new laptop today... F12 Beta or wait for full release?
On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 22:36 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 11/11/2009 10:38 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: My wife is getting a new laptop[1] today and I don't want to put F11 on it as F12 is almost here. At the same time, I don't want to leave Vista on it any longer than I have to. Are there any serious issues with F12 Beta that I should wait for the full release? I recommend getting the RC4 release instead of Beta http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/12-RC.4/ There are always issues with new releases. I would install F11 and wait a couple weeks for F12 to stabilize. You will lose nothing by doing an upgrade from F11 to F12. Just my $0.02. LG -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Countdown is on... 13 days until F12 stable.
13 days until Fedora 12 hits the streets. (November 17th, according to this: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/12/Schedule) I am looking forward to XI2, which I am hoping will allow my wife and I to work on the same computer in the same session. That would be pretty darn neat. I am wondering what versions of Qt, X11 and Qt F12 will ship with. Otherwise, I am looking forward to seeing how much progress has been made with everything since F11. For me its not usually the big headline stuff that makes the upgrades worthwhile, its the little stuff everywhere. And Fedora/KDE seem to be really good making huge strides with stuff lately. I can't wait to run F12 on my production machine. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
OT: Bloomberg comments on open software and Linux
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109sid=arPzMR.hhDq0 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Freeze on resume from Suspend to Ram.
For about the last month, occasionally my laptop will freeze when I resume after suspending to RAM. About once in every 5 resumes. It responds to a keypress by starting to come to life. The fan goes on high. But the screen stays dark and never displays anything. Does anyone else have this problem ? How would I troubleshoot it ? Thanks. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How does one remove the nvidia driver and install nouveau ?
On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 09:48 +0500, gil...@altern.org wrote: gil...@altern.org on 10/26/2009 04:05 PM wrote: Section Device Identifier Videocard0 Driver nvidia EndSection Maybe there's a problem? Here's your problem. Change nvidia to nouveau and restart X. Normally, --uninstall During installation, the installer will make backups of any conflicting files and record the installation of new files. The uninstall option undoes an install, restoring the system to its pre-install state. file:///usr/share/doc/xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-185.18.36/html/chapter-04-section-04.html So, if the driver is still nvidia, it's most probably that process didn't complete, maybe didn't even begin. It totally completed. Removing the nvidia driver doesn't touch the setting in the xorg.conf file. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How does one remove the nvidia driver and install nouveau ?
On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 08:38 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: Run 'livna-config-display --active off' to prevent the starutp script from modifying xorg.conf. Then edit xorg.conf and change the driver from 'nvidia' to 'nouveau'. The reboot. I think that'll do it. It didn't. I did this and rebooted and nvidia still runs. What else do I need to do ? THanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How does one remove the nvidia driver and install nouveau ?
On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 16:14 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Run nvidia-config-display disable and reboot It didn't work. $ lsmod | grep vid nvidia 9579020 40 video 18744 0 uvcvideo 50572 0 videodev 29612 1 uvcvideo i2c_core 25024 2 nvidia,i2c_i801 v4l1_compat12048 2 uvcvideo,videodev output 2476 1 video $ lsmod | grep nouveau nothing Now what do I do ? I was running akmod, which presumably builds an nvidia kernel module. Do those modules get loaded automatically ? If so, how does one remove an akmod build kernel module ? Ie how does one do a 'make uninstall' for an akmod module ? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How does one remove the nvidia driver and install nouveau ?
On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 09:51 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Linuxguy123 on 10/23/2009 09:29 AM wrote: Now what do I do ? Attach your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file. X.Org X Server 1.6.3.901 (1.6.4 RC 1) Release Date: 2009-8-25 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.18-164.el5 i686 Current Operating System: Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.30.8-64.fc11.i686.PAE #1 SMP Fri Sep 25 04:56:58 EDT 2009 i686 Kernel command line: ro root=UUID=f543d554-9344-4cad-a7da-47de47cd2665 rhgb quiet Build Date: 09 September 2009 11:25:24AM Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.6.4-0.1.fc11 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Fri Oct 23 08:22:40 2009 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf (==) ServerLayout Default Layout (**) |--Screen Screen0 (0) (**) | |--Monitor Monitor0 (**) | |--Device Device0 (**) |--Input Device Keyboard0 (**) |--Input Device Synaptics Touchpad (**) Option Xinerama 0 (**) Option AIGLX on (==) Automatically adding devices (==) Automatically enabling devices (==) FontPath set to: catalogue:/etc/X11/fontpath.d, built-ins (**) ModulePath set to /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/nvidia,/usr/lib/xorg/modules (**) Extension Composite is enabled (WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or 'vmmouse' will be disabled. (WW) Disabling Keyboard0 (II) Loader magic: 0xa40 (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 X.Org Video Driver: 5.0 X.Org XInput driver : 4.0 X.Org Server Extension : 2.0 (II) Loader running on linux (++) using VT number 1 (--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 10de:0609:103c:30d4 nVidia Corporation GeForce 8800M GTS rev 162, Mem @ 0xe900/16777216, 0xd000/268435456, 0xea00/33554432, I/O @ 0x6000/128, BIOS @ 0x/131072 (II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel (II) System resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0x - 0x (0x1) MX[B] [1] -1 0 0x000f - 0x000f (0x1) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x000c - 0x000e (0x3) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x - 0x0009 (0xa) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B] [5] -1 0 0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B] (II) LoadModule: extmod (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libextmod.so (II) Module extmod: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension SELinux (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA (II) Loading extension DPMS (II) Loading extension XVideo (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation (II) Loading extension X-Resource (II) LoadModule: dbe (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdbe.so (II) Module dbe: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER (II) LoadModule: glx (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/nvidia//libglx.so (II) Module glx: vendor=NVIDIA Corporation compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension (II) NVIDIA GLX Module 185.18.36 Fri Aug 14 17:50:12 PDT 2009 (II) Loading extension GLX (II) LoadModule: record (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//librecord.so (II) Module record: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.13.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension RECORD (II) LoadModule: dri (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri.so (II) Module dri: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI (II) LoadModule: dri2 (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri2.so (II) Module dri2: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.1.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension DRI2 (II) LoadModule: nvidia (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so (II) Module nvidia: vendor=NVIDIA Corporation compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Video Driver (II) LoadModule: synaptics (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input//synaptics_drv.so (II) Module synaptics: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 1.6.1.901, module version = 1.1.3
Re: How does one remove the nvidia driver and install nouveau ?
On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 09:51 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Linuxguy123 on 10/23/2009 09:29 AM wrote: Now what do I do ? Attach your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file. It has (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/nvidia//libglx.so. Do I have to manually remove this path from the xorg.conf file ? I thought that nvidia-config-display disable would have done that sort of thing ? Thanks. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How does one remove the nvidia driver and install nouveau ?
On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 11:08 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Linuxguy123 on 10/23/2009 10:07 AM wrote: (**) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 (==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888 (==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor (==) NVIDIA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) (**) NVIDIA(0): Option TwinView 1 (**) NVIDIA(0): Option MetaModes CRT: nvidia-auto-select +0+0, DFP: nvidia-auto-select +1680+0 (**) NVIDIA(0): Option TwinViewXineramaInfoOrder DFP-0 (**) NVIDIA(0): Option AddARGBGLXVisuals True (**) NVIDIA(0): Enabling RENDER acceleration (II) NVIDIA(0): Support for GLX with the Damage and Composite X extensions is (II) NVIDIA(0): enabled. (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU GeForce 8800M GTS (G92) at PCI:1:0:0 (GPU-0) (--) NVIDIA(0): Memory: 524288 kBytes (--) NVIDIA(0): VideoBIOS: 62.92.23.00.17 (II) NVIDIA(0): Detected PCI Express Link width: 16X (--) NVIDIA(0): Interlaced video modes are supported on this GPU (--) NVIDIA(0): Connected display device(s) on GeForce 8800M GTS at (--) NVIDIA(0): PCI:1:0:0: (--) NVIDIA(0): DELL 2005FPW (CRT-0) (--) NVIDIA(0): LPL (DFP-0) (--) NVIDIA(0): DELL 2005FPW (CRT-0): 400.0 MHz maximum pixel clock (--) NVIDIA(0): LPL (DFP-0): 330.0 MHz maximum pixel clock (--) NVIDIA(0): LPL (DFP-0): Internal Dual Link LVDS (**) NVIDIA(0): TwinView enabled (II) NVIDIA(0): Display Devices found referenced in MetaMode: CRT-0, Your xorg.conf file is wrong. You still have nvidia for the driver. It clearly shows you still have all the old nvidia driver options present. TwinView is not something defaulted on and is only found in the proprietary nVidia driver. Fix your xorg.conf file. You haven't. Man, this is confusing. I ran nvidia-display-config disable. I manually changed the Device driver from nvidia to nouveau. I thought that was supposed to take care of everything. Below is my xorg.conf file. What else do you suggest that I change ? Thanks # Xorg configuration created by livna-config-display Section ServerLayout Identifier Default Layout Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard InputDeviceSynaptics Touchpad CorePointer EndSection Section Files ModulePath /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/nvidia ModulePath /usr/lib/xorg/modules EndSection Section ServerFlags Option AIGLX on Option Xinerama 0 EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout us+inet EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Synaptics Touchpad Driver synaptics Option SendCoreEvents true Option Device /dev/psaux Option Protocol auto-dev Option HorizScrollDelta 0 Option SHMConfig true Option TouchpadOff 2 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 VendorName Unknown ModelNameDELL 2005FPW HorizSync30.0 - 83.0 VertRefresh 56.0 - 75.0 EndSection Section Device Identifier Videocard0 #Driver nvidia Driver nouveau VendorName NVIDIA Corporation BoardName GeForce 8800M GTS Option AddARGBGLXVisuals True EndSection Section Device Identifier Device0 Driver nvidia VendorName NVIDIA Corporation BoardName GeForce 8800M GTS Option AddARGBGLXVisuals True EndSection Section Screen # Removed Option TwinView 1 # Removed Option metamodes CRT: nvidia-auto-select +0+0, DFP: nvidia-auto-select +1680+0 # Removed Option TwinView 0 # Removed Option metamodes 1680x1050_60_0 +0+0; nvidia-auto-select +0 +0 # Removed Option TwinView 1 # Removed Option metamodes CRT: nvidia-auto-select +0+0, DFP: 1680x1050_60_0 +1680+0; CRT: nvidia-auto-select +0+0, DFP: nvidia-auto-select +1680+0 #Option TwinView 0 #Option TwinViewXineramaInfoOrder DFP-0 #Option metamodes 1680x1050 +0+0; 1680x1050_60_0 +0+0 # Removed Option TwinView 1 # Removed Option metamodes CRT: nvidia-auto-select +0+0, DFP: nvidia-auto-select +1680+0 # Removed Option TwinView 0 # Removed Option metamodes DFP: nvidia-auto-select +0+0 # Removed Option metamodes CRT: nvidia-auto-select +0+0, DFP: nvidia-auto-select +1680+0 # Removed Option TwinViewXineramaInfoOrder DFP-0 # Removed Option metamodes DFP: nvidia-auto-select +1680+0, CRT: nvidia-auto-select +0+0 # Removed Option TwinViewXineramaInfoOrder CRT-0 Identifier Screen0 Device Device0 MonitorMonitor0 DefaultDepth 24 Option TwinView 1 Option TwinViewXineramaInfoOrder DFP-0 Option metamodes CRT: nvidia-auto-select +0+0, DFP: nvidia-auto-select +1680+0
Re: How does one remove the nvidia driver and install nouveau ?
On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 11:35 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Linuxguy123 on 10/23/2009 11:33 AM wrote: Section Device Identifier Videocard0 #Driver nvidia Driver nouveau VendorName NVIDIA Corporation BoardName GeForce 8800M GTS Option AddARGBGLXVisuals True EndSection Section Device Identifier Device0 Driver nvidia VendorName NVIDIA Corporation BoardName GeForce 8800M GTS Option AddARGBGLXVisuals True EndSection Look at it a few times and I think it will come to you. Hint: Why do you have two device sections? Changing both of the device section drivers to nouveau and disabling all of the options made nouveau run. I'll write this all up in a post when I get my dual monitor setup working. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
How does one remove the nvidia driver and install nouveau ?
I need to test my computer with the nouveau driver in order to provide information for a bug report I contributed. Besides, I would like to see how well the open source driver works compared to the proprietary one. So how does one remove the nvidia driver and install the nouveau driver in its place ? I recently started using akmod-nvidia. I suspect that its built and installed an nvidia kernel module. I did a yum remove kmod-nvidia and yum remove akmod-nvidia. I edited xorg.conf and changed nvidia to nouveau, but I did not change any of the module paths. I did a modprobe nouveau. lsmod shows that its there. I did an rmmod -w nvidia in an attempt to uninstall the module. But when I reboot, it still runs. Now what do I do ? Edit xorg.conf ? rmmod ? lsmod ? insmod ? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Touchscreen isn't doing anything in KDE ?
I just fired up a 10.4 touchscreen LCD. The touchscreen part of things doesn't seem to do anything in KDE. I expected to plug it in and have it work, ie cursor follow my finger, etc. How should I proceed to get it working ? $ lsusb snip Bus 007 Device 002: ID 0eef:0001 D-WAV Scientific Co., Ltd eGalax TouchScreen snip $ dmesg snip usb 7-2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2 usb 7-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0eef, idProduct=0001 usb 7-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=5, SerialNumber=3 usb 7-2: Manufacturer: eGalax Inc. usb 7-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice input: eGalax Inc. as /devices/pci:00/:00:1d.2/usb7/7-2/7-2:1.0/input/input16 Now what ? Thanks ! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Anyone running F11 on a Dell mini ? (Or another mini ?)
How is it working for you ? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Anyone running F11 on a Dell mini ? (Or another mini ?)
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 21:02 +0200, Andras Simon wrote: On 10/14/09, Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: How is it working for you ? If, by 'any other mini', you mean 'any netbook', then yes, I run it on an underpowered netbook (1st gen eee pc, but with memory upgraded to 2GB), and I'm quite happy with it. What processor does it have ? SSD ? How fast do applications run ? What do you find to be annoyingly slow ? How was it with 1 GB of RAM ? Thanks ! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Anyone running F11 on a Dell mini ? (Or another mini ?)
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 12:50 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: Frank Cox wrote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:12:52 -0700 Rick Stevens wrote: Linuxguy123 wrote: How is it working for you ? I run it on an Acer Aspire One. Works fine. *blink* Is THAT what he meant by minicomputer? How could you possibly call something like that a mini? See my tractor-trailer rig and I show you a Honda Civic with trailer hitch? Well, I'm assuming that's what s/he meant. I, too, am of the old school where mainframes were S/370s, Sigmas and the like; minis were PDP-11s, Vaxen, Novas and their ilk; and micros were anything smaller. With laptops, portables and netbooks, the lines are even fuzzier. I feel the same way about the Mini moniker. I guess its somewhat justified that the netbooks are called Minis because they have more computing power than the old minis (PDP 11 et al) did. There isn't anything mini about a PDP11 any more... except if you compare its size to an old mainframe. Its astonishing to think how much processing power we can buy for ~$400 these days. (See HP Mini 311, for example...) 30 years ago $400 would have bought less than a day's computing time. Now it buys an entire machine that is way faster and nicer. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Anyone running F11 on a Dell mini ? (Or another mini ?)
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 15:34 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: How is it working for you ? Thanks Asus EEEPC 4G (+ 4GB SD Card, 4k striped LVM formatted to ext4) 512MB Ram F11 LXDE Updated BIOS to get full 900MHz on CeleronM cpu. Performance is pretty good but scrolling in FF w/ Flash heavy sites still lag a bit sometimes. Can you watch youtube videos ? In HD ? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Anyone running F11 on a Dell mini ? (Or another mini ?)
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 15:34 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: How is it working for you ? Thanks Do the netbooks (Atoms, AMDs et al) just run a plain x86_64 distribution ? Or does one need to mod a few things ? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Using a USB Hub on Linux ?
On Fri, 2009-10-09 at 12:56 -0400, Jim wrote: Fc11/KDE Is there anyone out that is using a USB hub to connect to one USB Printer from mulitiple computers ? Like auto self detect hub on each port. Not a switch hub. I have tried two different ones with no luck . Could you give me some Make, Models. ? As far as I know USB doesn't support this mode of operation. There can be only one master, ie PC connected to a hub. What you could do is connect the printer to one computer and then share it over the network or use a USB printer server that has a USB port on it. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
An interview with the creator of PulseAudio...
He makes some interesting comments about bugs, drivers, etc. http://www.cio.com.au/article/320807/open_source_identity_pulseaudio_creator_lennart_poettering?pp=1 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Old laptop for a media server ? (F11, mediaTomb, transcoding, uPNP server, etc.)
On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 08:44 -0400, Richard Heck wrote: On 10/05/2009 01:38 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote: We have a Dell 5100 laptop sitting here not doing anything. My wife got a new one a year ago. We need a media server to serve large digital images to client computers running digikam and we also want to run mediatomb to act as a server for our laptops and our uPNP capable tv. The 5100 has a Pentium 4 running at 2.66 MHz. Right now it has 256 MB of RAM, but I think I have 1 GB sitting around here for it. Plug in a new 7200 RPM 500 GB hard drive ? Run a 1 TB USB drive for more storage ? Definitely add RAM. Even if you don't have the big stick, RAM is dirt cheap and will make a big difference. I would like to run Fedora 11 on it. (What else ?) Boot init 3 ? Run init level 5 for doing administration ? I ran Fedora on a server for quite some time, but eventually switched away, for the simple reason that upgrading the server was too painful with Fedora---as I'm sure we all know. And if the upgrade process aborts, then I end up having to reconfigure the whole server. Not to mention that I have to take the thing down anyway to do it. This could be a reason to think about some Debian-based distro, or you could try CentOS, which is what I'm now using. I don't know if MediaTomb can be compiled for CentOS, though---I run Logitech's Slim Server, or whatever it's called now, to feed music to a Squeezebox and two Transporters---or if the formats you would need would be available there. If not, then I'd think about Debian. I am running the F11 Live CD on it right now. It seems to work fairly well, albeit a bit slow. You should see my server, then: 300MHz Pentium III. I love the form factor. It would be quiet and small. Its got a monitor and a keyboard and built in battery back up, for a couple hours, anyway. We have a wireless card for it too... I could do administration on the couch instead of in some closet somewhere. The only thing I might worry about is heat, and what that will do to the laptop if you're leaving it on all the time. (I'm guessing you want to leave it on all the time.) You could try putting the laptop on one of those laptop cooler things, that has built-in auxiliary fans. I've got one that plugs into one of the USB ports. Will it do the job ? I'm worried about the transcoding part of things. Our TV doesn't support many video formats but mediaTomb does transcoding so that we can watch just about anything we can store. Will it do the job ? Transcoding is labor intensive, but, given enough RAM, and assuming you're not trying to transcode full HD, I'd think you'd have a chance of having enough power. I think MediaTomb also has an option to buffer the output, and if you set that high enough, then that'll help a lot. If I were doing this now, I might think about building a dual-core Atom-based box in some smallish case. The only downside to this sort of thing, and this applies to the laptop, too, is that you very likely will run out of disk space at some point, even with a 1TB drive, if you're really collecting the videos, and then you have a problem. A conventional case gives you a lot more room for new drives. Richard Thanks for the reply. I will be transcoding 1080 HD. Anyone have experience with how much processing power that takes ? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Old laptop for a media server ? (F11, mediaTomb, transcoding, uPNP server, etc.)
We have a Dell 5100 laptop sitting here not doing anything. My wife got a new one a year ago. We need a media server to serve large digital images to client computers running digikam and we also want to run mediatomb to act as a server for our laptops and our uPNP capable tv. The 5100 has a Pentium 4 running at 2.66 MHz. Right now it has 256 MB of RAM, but I think I have 1 GB sitting around here for it. Plug in a new 7200 RPM 500 GB hard drive ? Run a 1 TB USB drive for more storage ? I would like to run Fedora 11 on it. (What else ?) Boot init 3 ? Run init level 5 for doing administration ? I am running the F11 Live CD on it right now. It seems to work fairly well, albeit a bit slow. I love the form factor. It would be quiet and small. Its got a monitor and a keyboard and built in battery back up, for a couple hours, anyway. We have a wireless card for it too... I could do administration on the couch instead of in some closet somewhere. Will it do the job ? I'm worried about the transcoding part of things. Our TV doesn't support many video formats but mediaTomb does transcoding so that we can watch just about anything we can store. Will it do the job ? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: NFS causing slooooow boot
On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 16:50 +, Valent Turkovic wrote: On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:03:25 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: If you're seeing long NFS resolution times on boot, check to see if you're running NetworkManager as opposed to the classic network startup. I'll check, but the point is that I didn't change .ks scripts and previous ISO images booted fast, only the latest ISO images that I created are booting slowly. That is why I'm asking has anybody seen this and what change could produce this? I don't know if this has anything to do with your situation, but the fedora developers list has a thread entitled Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen. Disclaimer: I haven't read the thread. I am not using an NFS mount right now. I used an nfs mount a few years ago and it too mounted very slowly. I know I fixed it but I can't remember how. Seems to me the mount process (in fstab) could take an option which affected things. The other thing to look for is version issues between the client and the host in nfs and the other protocols used to implement nfs. Hope this helps. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Advice for crossgrading from 32 bit F11 to x64 ?
I do a lot of photo processing... things like generating 200 jpgs from raw files at one go. My laptop has 4GB of RAM but is currently only using 3GB because I am running a 32 bit kernel. uname -a Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.30.8-64.fc11.i586 #1 SMP Fri Sep 25 04:30:19 EDT 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux Sooner or later I want to upgrade to a 64 bit kernel and 8 GB of RAM. Other than this article, I can't find any information on the subject. http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/123800 I am looking to do the upgrade WITHOUT reinstalling Fedora. I've done enough re installations in the past to know that I don't want to go there. Has anyone done crossgraded from 32 to 64 bit ? What advice do you have to offer ? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
How do I change from a regular kernel to a PAE kernel ?
My laptop has 4GB of RAM. It is currently using only 3 GB of RAM. I want to upgrade to 8 GB of RAM. I am currently using a 32 bit non PAE kernel. How do I change to using a PAE kernel ? What difference in speed will I notice in doing this ? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Advice for crossgrading from 32 bit F11 to x64 ?
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 19:29 -0700, Kam Leo wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: I do a lot of photo processing... things like generating 200 jpgs from raw files at one go. My laptop has 4GB of RAM but is currently only using 3GB because I am running a 32 bit kernel. uname -a Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.30.8-64.fc11.i586 #1 SMP Fri Sep 25 04:30:19 EDT 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux Sooner or later I want to upgrade to a 64 bit kernel and 8 GB of RAM. Other than this article, I can't find any information on the subject. http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/123800 I am looking to do the upgrade WITHOUT reinstalling Fedora. I've done enough re installations in the past to know that I don't want to go there. Has anyone done crossgraded from 32 to 64 bit ? What advice do you have to offer ? Have you really done enough upgrades? I think not. If you did, you would know that the best advice is to back up your files and perform a clean install. No, that is NOT the best choice. I've re installed clean more than 4x and its a BIG pain setting things up again. I have a lot of software installed and not all of it is a simple yum command, ie custom versions of Eclipse, java, etc. Just like we shouldn't be telling everyone to do a 'yum clean all' when its not necessary, nor should we be telling people to reinstall. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
akmod for PAE kernels ? Was: How do I change from a regular kernel to a PAE kernel ?
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 20:27 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: My laptop has 4GB of RAM. It is currently using only 3 GB of RAM. I want to upgrade to 8 GB of RAM. I am currently using a 32 bit non PAE kernel. How do I change to using a PAE kernel ? yum install kernel-PAE reboot ? I did this and it installed the lastest kernel's PAE version. And its running too. # uname -a Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.30.8-64.fc11.i686.PAE #1 SMP Fri Sep 25 04:56:58 EDT 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux HOWEVER... when it was booting, it gave a couple errors about not being able to find the nvidia driver and it appears not have installed it either: $ lsmod | grep nvidia $ lsmod | grep nv $ lsmod | grep vid video 18744 0 uvcvideo 50572 0 videodev 29612 1 uvcvideo v4l1_compat12048 2 uvcvideo,videodev output 2476 1 video There is no kmod-nvidia for this kernel. I have been using akmod-nvidia for my nvidia drivers. Does akmod-nvidia not work with PAE kernels or do I have do set up something different ? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: akmod for PAE kernels ? Was: How do I change from a regular kernel to a PAE kernel ?
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 21:01 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 20:27 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: My laptop has 4GB of RAM. It is currently using only 3 GB of RAM. I want to upgrade to 8 GB of RAM. I am currently using a 32 bit non PAE kernel. How do I change to using a PAE kernel ? yum install kernel-PAE reboot ? I did this and it installed the lastest kernel's PAE version. And its running too. # uname -a Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.30.8-64.fc11.i686.PAE #1 SMP Fri Sep 25 04:56:58 EDT 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux HOWEVER... when it was booting, it gave a couple errors about not being able to find the nvidia driver and it appears not have installed it either: $ lsmod | grep nvidia $ lsmod | grep nv $ lsmod | grep vid video 18744 0 uvcvideo 50572 0 videodev 29612 1 uvcvideo v4l1_compat12048 2 uvcvideo,videodev output 2476 1 video There is no kmod-nvidia for this kernel. I have been using akmod-nvidia for my nvidia drivers. Does akmod-nvidia not work with PAE kernels or do I have do set up something different ? Looks like I needed to install kernel-PAE-devel. I hope this helps someone. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Advice for crossgrading from 32 bit F11 to x64 ?
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 23:32 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Linuxguy123 writes: I do a lot of photo processing... things like generating 200 jpgs from raw files at one go. My laptop has 4GB of RAM but is currently only using 3GB because I am running a 32 bit kernel. Why led you to this conclusion? 32 bit Linux is perfectly capable of addressing 4 GB+ of RAM. You need to install a PAE kernel, which should already be the case, by default. If you are not already booting a PAE kernel, just install it. Sooner or later I want to upgrade to a 64 bit kernel and 8 GB of RAM. Other than this article, I can't find any information on the subject. http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/123800 I am looking to do the upgrade WITHOUT reinstalling Fedora. I've done Someone who has sufficient technical experience and know-how might be able to pull this off. But, to be perfectly straight, if you have to ask how to do this, you do not have the requisite know how. snip But, if all you want is more RAM, all you really need is the PAE kernel, which I believe can handle up to 16 GB. A single 32 bit process is still limited to accessing 3 GB max, but overall the system will be able to use up to 16 gigs. If that works out for you, this is your path of least resistance. Thanks for the reply. I installed the PAE kernel. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How do I change from a regular kernel to a PAE kernel ?
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 20:23 -0700, Kam Leo wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: My laptop has 4GB of RAM. It is currently using only 3 GB of RAM. I want to upgrade to 8 GB of RAM. I am currently using a 32 bit non PAE kernel. How do I change to using a PAE kernel ? yum install kernel-PAE Note: There may be additional packages which need to be installed, e.g. kernel-PAE-devel, kmod-nvidia-PAE, etc. For the record, I did: yum install kernel-PAE yum install kernel-PAE-devel I already had akmod-nvidia installed. (Which rocks, btw.) I knew that akmod-nvidia needed a -devel package because I used to manually build my nvidia drivers. But I didn't realize that the PAE kernels had their own -devel, but then I should have because its an option in the kernel setup if you build your own kernel. DUH ! I'm surprised that Anaconda did not detect that your processor was an i686 and automatically install the PAE kernel. I've been running this installation since Fedora 8 and I think there was a time period when the PAE kernels were not available. And everything since then has been an upgrade/update, so Anaconda probably isn't getting to look at what kernel I might need. What difference in speed will I notice in doing this ? Everything seems faster, but I also changed kernels and there was a yum update to KDE at the same time, so I can't tell how much is from the new kernel version, the new kde updates and from PAE. In any event, I am a happy camper. Thanks for the replies. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How do I change from a regular kernel to a PAE kernel ?
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 20:23 -0700, Kam Leo wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: My laptop has 4GB of RAM. It is currently using only 3 GB of RAM. I want to upgrade to 8 GB of RAM. I am currently using a 32 bit non PAE kernel. How do I change to using a PAE kernel ? yum install kernel-PAE Note: There may be additional packages which need to be installed, e.g. kernel-PAE-devel, kmod-nvidia-PAE, etc. I'm surprised that Anaconda did not detect that your processor was an i686 and automatically install the PAE kernel. What difference in speed will I notice in doing this ? Evolution seems to be faster, but 'free -m' isn't showing that I am running out of memory or anything. I generally have ~1600 MB free now. I gained 1 GB, so before it would have been ~400 MB free. Now I should increase the size of my swap file partition from 2GB to 4GB... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How do I change from a regular kernel to a PAE kernel ?
On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 00:43 -0400, Steven W. Orr wrote: On 09/30/09 00:21, quoth Linuxguy123: What difference in speed will I notice in doing this ? Evolution seems to be faster, but 'free -m' isn't showing that I am running out of memory or anything. I generally have ~1600 MB free now. I gained 1 GB, so before it would have been ~400 MB free. Now I should increase the size of my swap file partition from 2GB to 4GB... I just did this last week. Works fine. But I just have one question: You say your situation is that you're now running at around 1.6G free mem. So why bump the swap area? You can do it, but the whole point was to use more memory. If you didn't run out of swap before then you're even less likely to run out now, unless you now plan on doing things that you didn't do before. I'm running 1.6 GB free when not running any of my heavy duty applications like ufraw (batch), digikam, eclipse (sometimes 2 or more instances), gimp, a couple browsers, evolution and a couple Open Office apps. Did I mention that I want to start editing HD video ? I need 8 GB of RAM ! BTW: The PAE kernel seems to run faster. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
*^^%%$!!! Konqueror is getting less and less stable !
F11, KDE4.3.1, all updates. Konqueror is getting less and less stable. Proof: go to www.circuitcity.com and click on Cameras at the top and tell me what happens. I've had about 5 Konqueror crashes in the last day. Luckily its pretty good at recovering the open websites when you restart it. But the browsing history for each on is lost, ie you can't go to the previous page on any of them. FRUSTRATING ! Honestly... how many YEARS have we been seeing Konqueror do this sort of thing ? I still LOVE KDE/Linux/OS. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: *^^%%$!!! Konqueror is getting less and less stable !
Here is another one that doesn't work in Konqueror and does in Firefox. http://www.traction.com/en/viewpdf?cp=O31 s=[k] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Dual monitor setup quit working with recent update ?
On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 19:36 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 19:50 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: On 09/13/2009 07:39 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: Further to my last email, I can now only run a graphical session with my 2.6.30 kernel. All the others fail to start the x session. You can thank your RPMFusion packages for that. The kmod system is very bad, but they refuse to use any other method despite my suggestions. I'd point you to my personal repo with DKMS RPMs but I'd hate to have all nVidia users start using it and my repo run out of bandwidth. Good luck! I am happy to report that I got my dual monitors working. I don't know what exactly did it, but here is what I did. I suspected that the laptop display was not working due to a power management issue, ie the screen was dimmed too dim to view. I suspected this because I have seen this happen after the laptop comes back from a suspend event. So... I went into KDEStart-Settings-System Settings - Advanced - Power Management- Edit Profiles - Screen. I then disabled Enable display power management on each of the profiles, saving them as I went. The I logged out of my KDE session and logged back in. The laptop monitor was then functional. I'm not certain that power management was the issue, but this sequence of changes fixed my issue. I'm unhappy to further report that my dual monitors only work after I log out and log back in after rebooting. When I boot up my laptop monitor doesn't display anything. My desktop is displayed on my external monitor. If my external monitor isn't connected then I don't have any display at all ! I am hoping this gets fixed before the weekend as I have to take my laptop on the road on Saturday morning. However, if I log into a KDE session and then log out and log in again, my laptop monitor comes to life. Someone forgot to initialize something somewhere ? LG -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Dual monitor setup quit working with recent update ?
Just got back from holidays. Ran yum update and installed 2 weeks of F11 updates, including... cat yum.log | grep nvidia Sep 13 17:06:38 Installed: kmod-nvidia-2.6.30.5-43.fc11.i586-185.18.36-1.fc11.1.i586 Sep 13 17:06:47 Updated: kmod-nvidia-185.18.36-1.fc11.1.i586 Sep 13 17:06:51 Updated: xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs-185.18.36-1.fc11.i586 Sep 13 17:06:54 Updated: xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-185.18.36-1.fc11.i586 cat yum.log | grep x11 Sep 13 16:53:54 Updated: xorg-x11-server-common-1.6.3-4.fc11.i586 Sep 13 16:56:11 Updated: xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.6.3-4.fc11.i586 Sep 13 16:56:24 Updated: xorg-x11-server-utils-7.4-7.1.fc11.i586 Sep 13 16:57:02 Updated: xorg-x11-drv-evdev-2.2.5-1.fc11.i586 Sep 13 16:59:57 Updated: xorg-x11-drv-fpit-1.3.0-3.fc11.i586 Sep 13 16:59:58 Updated: xorg-x11-drv-chips-1.2.2-1.fc11.i586 Sep 13 17:06:51 Updated: xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs-185.18.36-1.fc11.i586 Sep 13 17:06:54 Updated: xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-185.18.36-1.fc11.i586 Sep 13 17:07:14 Updated: 1:qt-x11-4.5.2-3.fc11.i586 cat yum.log | grep kernel Sep 13 16:53:52 Updated: kernel-headers-2.6.30.5-43.fc11.i586 Sep 13 16:56:05 Installed: kernel-2.6.30.5-43.fc11.i586 Sep 13 17:03:17 Installed: kernel-devel-2.6.30.5-43.fc11.i586 My dual monitor setup doesn't work anymore. The external monitor works fine, but the laptop monitor is black after the boot process goes graphical. How do I fix it ? Thanks uname -a Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.30.5-43.fc11.i586 #1 SMP Thu Aug 27 21:18:54 EDT 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Dual monitor setup quit working with recent update ?
Further to my last email, I can now only run a graphical session with my 2.6.30 kernel. All the others fail to start the x session. $ yum list kernel Loaded plugins: dellsysidplugin2, downloadonly, kmdl, priorities, refresh- : packagekit 1 packages excluded due to repository priority protections Installed Packages kernel.i586 2.6.29.6-213.fc11 @updates kernel.i586 2.6.29.6-217.2.3.fc11 @updates kernel.i586 2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11 @updates kernel.i586 2.6.30.5-43.fc11 @updates -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Dual monitor setup quit working with recent update ?
On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 19:50 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: On 09/13/2009 07:39 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: Further to my last email, I can now only run a graphical session with my 2.6.30 kernel. All the others fail to start the x session. You can thank your RPMFusion packages for that. The kmod system is very bad, but they refuse to use any other method despite my suggestions. I'd point you to my personal repo with DKMS RPMs but I'd hate to have all nVidia users start using it and my repo run out of bandwidth. Good luck! I am happy to report that I got my dual monitors working. I don't know what exactly did it, but here is what I did. I suspected that the laptop display was not working due to a power management issue, ie the screen was dimmed too dim to view. I suspected this because I have seen this happen after the laptop comes back from a suspend event. So... I went into KDEStart-Settings-System Settings - Advanced - Power Management- Edit Profiles - Screen. I then disabled Enable display power management on each of the profiles, saving them as I went. The I logged out of my KDE session and logged back in. The laptop monitor was then functional. I'm not certain that power management was the issue, but this sequence of changes fixed my issue. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Has anyone had a bugzilla sound bug fixed ?
Has anyone submitted a sound related bug to bugzilla in recent history and seen it get resolved, ie fixed ? If so, what component was it ? (ALSA, Pulse Audio, audio device driver, etc.) Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
kernel 217.2.8 won't boot.
Kernel 2.6.29.6-217.2.3.fc11.i586 works fine on my laptop, but 217.2.8 won't boot at all. It seems to run through everything just fine and then the video starts blinking like crazy in text mode, like it can't start the nvidia driver. After that I get a black screen with a blinking cursor. Kernel 217.2.3 is working OK for me. I can live without 217.2.8, except that I am worried that the next kernel update will delete it and I might be left with zero working kernels. Any idea on what I could do to get 217.2.8 running ? Thanks $ uname -a Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.29.6-217.2.3.fc11.i586 #1 SMP Wed Jul 29 15:46:46 EDT 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux $ yum list kernel Loaded plugins: dellsysidplugin2, downloadonly, kmdl, priorities, refresh-packagekit 1 packages excluded due to repository priority protections Installed Packages kernel.i586 2.6.29.6-213.fc11 @updates kernel.i586 2.6.29.6-217.2.3.fc11 @updates kernel.i586 2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11 @updates $ yum list \*nvidia* Loaded plugins: dellsysidplugin2, downloadonly, kmdl, priorities, refresh-packagekit 1 packages excluded due to repository priority protections Installed Packages kmod-nvidia.i586 185.18.31-1.fc11 @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates kmod-nvidia-2.6.29.6-213.fc11.i586.i586 185.18.29-1.fc11 @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates kmod-nvidia-2.6.29.6-217.2.3.fc11.i586.i586 185.18.31-1.fc11 @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates kmod-nvidia-2.6.29.6-217.2.8.fc11.i586.i586 185.18.14-1.fc11.6 @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates xorg-x11-drv-nvidia.i586 185.18.31-1.fc11 @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs.i586 185.18.31-1.fc11 @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kernel 217.2.8 won't boot.
On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 03:35 +0930, Tim wrote: Change the configuration in yum.conf to keep more than two kernels. Two's not enough for exactly the reason that you're concerned with. e.g. installonly_limit=6 Thanks for the tip. I made this change. LG -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
kmod-nvidia for kernel -217 please ?
'yum update' is showing a new kernel is available. However, those of us running non open source video drivers (for various reasons) cannot update because the new kmod-nvidia driver isn't built for the new kernel. Could someone build it and push it out to the repositories ? Thanks PS: Thanks for supplying the kmod-nvidia driver. I used to have to build it myself. I'm glad I don't have to. Good job. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kmod-nvidia for kernel -217 please ?
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 09:04 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: Linuxguy123 wrote: 'yum update' is showing a new kernel is available. However, those of us running non open source video drivers (for various reasons) cannot update because the new kmod-nvidia driver isn't built for the new kernel. Could someone build it and push it out to the repositories ? Thanks PS: Thanks for supplying the kmod-nvidia driver. I used to have to build it myself. I'm glad I don't have to. Good job. Why not install akmod-nvidia (rpmfusion-nonfree-updates)? Then you are independent from the current kernel (the module will be rebuilt on the first boot of a new kernel). I'll give it a try. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kmod-nvidia for kernel -217 please ?
On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 06:58 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 09:04 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: Linuxguy123 wrote: 'yum update' is showing a new kernel is available. However, those of us running non open source video drivers (for various reasons) cannot update because the new kmod-nvidia driver isn't built for the new kernel. Could someone build it and push it out to the repositories ? Thanks PS: Thanks for supplying the kmod-nvidia driver. I used to have to build it myself. I'm glad I don't have to. Good job. Why not install akmod-nvidia (rpmfusion-nonfree-updates)? Then you are independent from the current kernel (the module will be rebuilt on the first boot of a new kernel). I'll give it a try. I didn't build when I rebooted. The boot hung. For some reason my wifi card doesn't connect to the network during the boot. It establishes a connection and works just fine during my KDE session, but it doesn't establish a connection during the boot. I'm still waiting for kmod-nvidia so I can use the new kernel. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Speeding up boot process by managing Wifi devices ?
I seem to be rebooting my laptop a lot lately. Unfortunately, its a slow process. I watched the textual output during a reboot and was surprised to learn that most of the time booting is spent on two Wifi related events: a) Determining IP Information for wlan0 b) Searching for the nntp server, even though wlan0 did not connect to a network. I am running KDE and I've got Network Manager enabled, so once I log in, its asking me which network I want to connect to and then connecting to it. All in all, I must be waiting several minutes for my wifi device every time I reboot. Is there a way to change this behavior so that: a) my computer isn't trying to connect to a network when rebooting ? b) its not trying to connect to the time server when it doesn't have a network connection ? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kmod-nvidia?
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 07:35 +0500, gil...@altern.org wrote: Hi, folks. I've got an AMD, 64-bit PC running Fedora 11. I've been using the kmod-nvidia driver for graphics. With the update to the latest kernel: 2.6.29.6-217.2.3.fc11.x86_64 I seem to have lost that driver. You haven't. It should be out shortly, say the next 24h. Meanwhile, chose another kernel when you boot. The kmod-nvidia packages for -217 are out and they work. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Does the nouveau driver support dual monitors ? How ?
Kernel 2.6.29.6-217 installed this morning on my computer during a yum update. There was no kmod-nvidia package. My computer rebooted using a different video driver. nouveau ? Its all good except that I lost my dual display functionality and I need it back. Assuming the driver running is nouveau, how does one set up dual display functionality ? I ask this because a while back I read that using xorg.conf for setting things up is kind of taboo these days. (This was in reference to initializing the Synaptics touchpad.) So... how do I determine what video driver my system is currently using ? (lsmod ?) How do I configure it to drive the second display ? Thanks $uname -a Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.29.6-217.2.3.fc11.i586 #1 SMP Wed Jul 29 15:46:46 EDT 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux $ lsmod | grep video video 17380 0 uvcvideo 49804 0 output 2364 1 video videodev 32216 1 uvcvideo v4l1_compat11560 2 uvcvideo,videodev -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kmod-nvidia?
On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 16:01 -0700, Michael Hannon wrote: Hi, folks. I've got an AMD, 64-bit PC running Fedora 11. I've been using the kmod-nvidia driver for graphics. With the update to the latest kernel: 2.6.29.6-217.2.3.fc11.x86_64 I seem to have lost that driver. [root ~]# rpm -qa | grep kmod libmikmod-3.2.0-4.beta2.fc11.x86_64 kmod-nvidia-2.6.29.6-213.fc11.x86_64-185.18.14-1.fc11.2.x86_64 [root ~]# yum update Loaded plugins: dellsysidplugin2, refresh-packagekit Setting up Update Process No Packages marked for Update Is there an update in the works? And/or is there something else I should be doing? I've got the same issue. I reverted back to -213 for now. Hopefully they build and push the new kmod-nvidia shortly. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F11 for an HP Tablet computer (TX25xx) ?
Has anyone tried using F11 on an HP tablet computer like the TX2510 ? Does Linux have a driver for the touchpad ? Does Linux have a decent handwriting recognition app ? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Fixed: KpackageKit error: Repository configuration was invalid
On Tue, 2009-07-28 at 12:09 -0700, Kam Leo wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Linuxguy123linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2009-07-28 at 09:53 -0700, Keith wrote: Linuxguy123 wrote: a) I don't have a repository called InstallMedia. b) Its highly annoying that this error keeps popping up and that it can't be turned off. It was appearing the other day too and I finally turned it off by turning off the yum-updatesd service. But now it seems to appear even though that is turned off. FRUSTRATING ! I've done a yum clean all and yum clean expire-cache. It still occurs. How do I fix this ? Thanks It is looking for a install drive like a DVD or CD-rom. You need to go into your settings and turn it off. I looked in kpackagekit-settings-Origins of Packages and I don't have anything to disable that looks related to a DVD or CDROM. Any ideas ? Thanks for the reply ! LG Edit /etc/yum.repos.d/Fedora-install-media.repo. Change to enabled=1 to enabled=0. This action fixed my problem. In case someone wants to know, the contents of this file were: [InstallMedia] name=Fedora 8 mediaid=1194015397.199387 metadata_expire=-1 gpgcheck=0 cost=500 I added enabled=0 to stop the messages. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Soundcard works but no sound... how do I troubleshoot ?
On Mon, 2009-07-27 at 13:55 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Sun, 2009-07-26 at 16:31 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote: I am running F11 with KDE, all updates installed. $ uname -a Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.29.6-213.fc11.i586 #1 SMP Tue Jul 7 20:45:17 EDT 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux I have sound through my headphone jack when I run system-config-sound. It shows the PCM device to be STAC92xx Analog. I also have sound when running Amarok. Its not clear to me which device it is using. But I don't have sound with other applications (eg Youtube or mplayer or xine) or with KDE in general. At this point I DO have pulseaudio installed. How do I troubleshoot or fix the sound on my laptop ? Thanks I had to remove alsa-pulseaudio rpm. I think you meant alsa-plugins-pulseaudio. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
KpackageKit error: Repository configuration was invalid
I am getting an error message from KpackageKit every few minutes. Repository configuration was invalid and could not be read. Details: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: InstallMedia. Please verify its path and try again # yum repolist Loaded plugins: dellsysidplugin2, downloadonly, kmdl, priorities, refresh-packagekit repo id repo name status fedora Fedora 11 - i386 enabled: 13,289 livna rpm.livna.org for 11 - i386 enabled: 3 rpmfusion-free RPM Fusion for Fedora 11 - Free enabled:377 rpmfusion-free-updates RPM Fusion for Fedora 11 - Free - Updates enabled: 204 rpmfusion-nonfree RPM Fusion for Fedora 11 - Nonfree enabled:110 rpmfusion-nonfree-updates RPM Fusion for Fedora 11 - Nonfree - Updates enabled:115 updates Fedora 11 - i386 - Updates enabled: 3,564 a) I don't have a repository called InstallMedia. b) Its highly annoying that this error keeps popping up and that it can't be turned off. It was appearing the other day too and I finally turned it off by turning off the yum-updatesd service. But now it seems to appear even though that is turned off. FRUSTRATING ! I've done a yum clean all and yum clean expire-cache. It still occurs. How do I fix this ? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Soundcard works but no sound... how do I troubleshoot ?
On Tue, 2009-07-28 at 11:08 -0400, William Case wrote: Hi; I had to remove alsa-pulseaudio rpm. I think you meant alsa-plugins-pulseaudio. you are probably correct. I removed PulseAudio and alsa-plugins-pulseaudio a couple of days ago and Audio CD in RtythmBox etc. still doesn't work. I think the problem is hidden in one of the other updates. Ubuntu people (googled) seem to be having the same problem. I would guess that the bug was introduced somewhere upstream of Fedora. There isn't just one bug, there are several. The whole linux sound setup is currently a mess in my opinion. My sound worked yesterday through my headphone jack, from various sources. I even had sound for system events from time to time. I have no idea why it decided to start working. This morning I removed the pulseaudio components to see if that would allow me to have system sound. That messed up the entire sound system. I now only have sound from Amarok. So its back to tweaking various settings and rebooting frequently to see if I can get sound working again. Do I need to mention that sound was fine in F10 and that all of this is extremely frustrating ? I can't even file a bug report on this because the symptoms are changing with every reboot. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: KpackageKit error: Repository configuration was invalid
On Tue, 2009-07-28 at 09:53 -0700, Keith wrote: Linuxguy123 wrote: a) I don't have a repository called InstallMedia. b) Its highly annoying that this error keeps popping up and that it can't be turned off. It was appearing the other day too and I finally turned it off by turning off the yum-updatesd service. But now it seems to appear even though that is turned off. FRUSTRATING ! I've done a yum clean all and yum clean expire-cache. It still occurs. How do I fix this ? Thanks It is looking for a install drive like a DVD or CD-rom. You need to go into your settings and turn it off. I looked in kpackagekit-settings-Origins of Packages and I don't have anything to disable that looks related to a DVD or CDROM. Any ideas ? Thanks for the reply ! LG -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Soundcard works but no sound... how do I troubleshoot ?
I am running F11 with KDE, all updates installed. $ uname -a Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.29.6-213.fc11.i586 #1 SMP Tue Jul 7 20:45:17 EDT 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux I have sound through my headphone jack when I run system-config-sound. It shows the PCM device to be STAC92xx Analog. I also have sound when running Amarok. Its not clear to me which device it is using. But I don't have sound with other applications (eg Youtube or mplayer or xine) or with KDE in general. At this point I DO have pulseaudio installed. How do I troubleshoot or fix the sound on my laptop ? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: pulseaudio breaks after update today - at least you HAD sound !
On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 14:13 -0700, jack craig wrote: Hi Fedora list, today i did an update and am left with, ... At least you HAD sound. I haven't had sound since I upgraded to F11, even though it worked fine in F10. Sound now *almost* works on my computer. I actually got output from system-config-soundcard last night. Though I still didn't have any system sounds nor any output from amarok. Sound is again totally broken after my reboot this morning though. I can't tell you how frustrating this has been. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
When will we ever have an upgrade with sound that just works ?
I've been using Redhat/Fedora since RH8. It seems that every time we get a new version sound gets broken and I have to go through a whole complicated and convoluted troubleshooting sequence to get it running again. Wireless networking used to be like that and now it seems to work release after release. When will sound get the same attention to detail that Wireless got ? Sound worked just fine in F8 and F10, after some fiddling, of course. Along comes F11 and I've got nothing, in spite of spending literally days mucking and fiddling around. The pundits say that the problem is my complicated, unsupported sound card (Intel HDA), but it worked just fine in F8 and F10 and it hasn't changed since. If it ran fine in F8 and F10, why should it suddenly be OK to NOT run in F11 ? The funny part of all this is the pulse audio component. Pulse audio seems to be bug ridden. There doesn't seem to be any real documentation for troubleshooting it. And yet one gets chastised if one says they want to remove it and run without it. Oh, yeah... I forgot... Fedora is bleeding edge. The funny thing is that we've been bleeding on the sound card issues since RH8 and there doesn't seem to be any end in sight. And I would hardly call sound systems leading edge in this day and age. When (and how) will this madness end ? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: When will we ever have an upgrade with sound that just works ?
On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 09:58 -0700, Craig White wrote: The way problems get fixed is to have a repeatable installation and a repeatable problem and report to bugzilla so the software developers know that there is a problem, can get information from you as to your hardware, suggest changes and then these changes will be incorporated into the distribution. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=509620 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: When will we ever have an upgrade with sound that just works ?
On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 12:50 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Part of the problem is that the Intel sound chips are too configurable. If you do not have the correct configuration for the way yours are connected, you are going to have problems. If your motherboard isn't one that the developers know the configuration of, you usually end up having to experiment a bit to get it to work. Yes, but it worked well in F10. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines