Re: WSJ on Oracle's purchase of Sun and consequences for MySQL
Anne Wilson wrote: If Oracle thinks that their $7 billion is going to killing MySQL, they are sorely mistaken. Companies come and go. FOSS endures, and so will MySQL. So if I were in their shoes I'd want to make some money out of it. Oops - isn't that what they are planning? I hope so, but that's certainly not what they did with PeopleSoft. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: WSJ on Oracle's purchase of Sun and consequences for MySQL
Max Pyziur wrote: This is a monster step backward for those of us who are committed to sustaining open source, said Lev Gonick, chief information officer at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, who uses database software from Oracle as well as MySQL. I have no doubt that this is an attempt to kill the competition. If Oracle thinks that their $7 billion is going to killing MySQL, they are sorely mistaken. Companies come and go. FOSS endures, and so will MySQL. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: utf-8 not rendering properly
Konstantin Svist wrote: I was under the impression that utf-8 supported all languages... UTF-8 is a character encoding. You still need fonts for any character you want to view. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: using 'mv' instead of 'cp' to transfer directories to other partitions or disks
Aaron Konstam wrote: If you are using mv to transfer to a different disk or partition it probably a little slower. Right. Because mv from one partition to another is: cp + delete src. And this is slower than just cp, but only slightly since marking a file deleted is very fast. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: unlock utility for linux
Antonio Olivares wrote: Dear fellow Fedora users, Does there exist a utility within linux, be it fedora or other that can unlock a locked hard drive. A friend of mine gave me a disk and he told me that it was mine to keep, the problem was that the hard drive was locked What does this actually mean? and if I could unlock it I can keep it. I tried the Gparted Live CD, Slax Live CD and the device exists, but it gives errors like /dev/sda input output error What makes you think this is some kind of security, as opposed to simply a bad driver or busted hardware? or something like that. I read something about dd doing powerful things like cleaning up disks or wiping them clean, You should be able to do what you need in gparted, assuming there is no issue with the drive itself. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Shell confusion
psmith wrote: dave is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. So, I found the sudoers file, but not at all clear about exaclty what I need to put in there. Once again, I have to learn one thing in order to do another. Any help here? Thanks Dave you need to uncomment the #%wheelALL=(ALL)ALL to %wheelALL=(ALL)ALL in the sudoers file, then add your user account to the wheel group using system-config-users That's simplest, but you can also grant it directly to an account, and/or grant different privileges to different accounts. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: URLs [OT]
Petrus de Calguarium wrote: I am wondering: usually a URL has the form http://www.company.com/dir/subdir... but lately, I have often come across http://www.company.com//dir/subdir It's probably just a mistake. But it is a valid URL, and can mean whatever the server wants it to mean. See RFC 3986. There is no requirement that segments (meaning the parts between slashes in the path) have non-zero length. So there is simply a slash then a blank segment after the authority (hostname in this case) Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: URLs [OT]
Sharpe, Sam J wrote: // is functionally equivalent to / - so what that represents is badly configured web serving software as I would expect the output of each URL to be the same. That's not quite right. See my other message and RFC 3986. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Shell confusion
Dave Bolt IT Solutions wrote: When I start a terminal as dave I get a prompt [d...@test-host ~]$ When I do su amandabackup I get a prompt bash-3.2$ From the first prompt I can launch gedit, from the second I get an error, No protocol specified, gedit:4724, Gtk-WARNING ** cannot open display. Since both of these users are apparently configured for bash, can anyone explain what is happening? You should not run GUI apps under a root shell. Do: sudo gedit or better yet: sudoedit /etc/the_config.ext Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Text editor won't let me edit conf files. How do I?
Aaron Konstam wrote: Give your root password when it asks. - The essential point is that you have to be root to edit filles with onlu root w permissions No, you don't. This is the whole point of sudoedit. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Text editor won't let me edit conf files. How do I?
Aaron Konstam wrote: On Fri, 2009-03-06 at 14:54 -0500, Matthew Flaschen wrote: Aaron Konstam wrote: Give your root password when it asks. - The essential point is that you have to be root to edit files with only root w permissions No, you don't. This is the whole point of sudoedit. Matt Flaschen Your nit picking. Sudo allows you root privileges on a limited basis. You still have to have root privileges, which was my point. Do you actually know how sudoedit works? The editor is not run as root. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Disk quotas on INBOXes
Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: So, I want to limit the size of their INBOX file as well, through quotas. Possible? Why not just put the mail in their home directories to keep it simple? You can use a symlink if that makes it easier. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Something is Fishy About My Network
Kevin J. Cummings wrote: Suggestion #2 (if you are up to it): Disable DHCP serving in your router and setup a DHCP server on a Linux machine. You can set up the dchp.conf file to do everything your touter is doing. If this machine is also running DNS, there are some ways to get them to talk to each other so that DNS knows the names of machines served by the DHCP server. This is not trivial, and requires in depth knowledge of both protocols to get to work right. Possibly including depricated configuration options. I think you're overstating the complexity of this. It shouldn't be that hard for him to get it working with dnsmasq. Also, what aspect of the configuration do you think is deprecated? Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Something is Fishy About My Network
Kevin J. Cummings wrote: I think you're overstating the complexity of this. It shouldn't be that hard for him to get it working with dnsmasq. Also, what aspect of the configuration do you think is deprecated? The Linux DHCP server no longer has the right hooks to fix up BIN directly. There is no single Linux DHCP server. ISC dhcpd (which I assume you're referring to) is not the only thing that can provide DHCP. As I said, dnsmasq is a good solution here because it's a single program that can provide integrated DHCP and DNS. It needs another tool to help out. Right, so don't use dhcpd at all. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Booting a gazillion linuxes?
Tom Horsley wrote: Of course I was also trying to make the primary system have a very robust grub installation, so I spent a lot of time reading about saved defaults and fallbacks in grub only to discover that fedora's grub merely ships that in the info file, but not in grub itself (sigh...) That's a bug in the docs. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [OT] Free download of Linux Fromat for 24 hours
Nigel Henry wrote: Up to a few hours ago, when I found out that my torrent download hadn't completed, there were many folks still seeding, and was able to complete the download. I've attached the .torrent file as well, as it's only 9.9KB. Thanks! I just downloaded it very fast, so some people are still seeding. I'll try to do so for a while too. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Clarification on roles of networking components.
Simon Slater wrote: Is there any overlap in the functions of NIS, bind and LDAP? Or are these mutually exclusive? I would be surprised if you needed either NIS or LDAP for a SOHO network. However, I would say NIS and LDAP are similar, but bind (i.e. DNS) serves a fundamentally different purpose. When using DHCP, is /etc/hosts redundant? Well, you won't /need/ to use it. You configure a server to assign IPs (DHCP) and automatically tell other computers which computer maps to which IPs (DNS). What is the optimal way to resolve names in a small but growing network? Depends how small, of course. But I would think a simple DNS/DHCP server like dnsmasq is reasonable for such a network. See http://www.linux.com/articles/149040 for a good start. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Clarification on roles of networking components.
Simon Slater wrote: Thanks Matt. I saw dnsmasq mentioned in one how-to but didn't chase it since I was focussing on DHCP and bind. DHCP is a protocol and bind is an implementation (of DNS, mainly). You're comparing apples to orchardists. Now there are half a dozen boxes, but will increase to 2 dozen over the next year. Is this still within the scope of dnsmasq? I believe so. Realising there are a variety of solutions, I don't want to come against Ockham's Razor. Right, I think dnsmasq is simple but will get your job done. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Clarification on roles of networking components.
Robert Moskowitz wrote: Otherwise, you need a local BIND server, use Webmin to maintain it. I am very experienced with BIND, and still use Webmin. Why exactly do you think he needs BIND? Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to mesure the inactivity time
Adel ESSAFI wrote: Thanks, How ever, I am searching for more low level procedure. I mean, is there any event or interruption that the system produces then the user come leaves or take back his machine. I don't think so, at least not without JNI. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to mesure the inactivity time
Adel ESSAFI wrote: Hi list I am developping a tool with java and I want to know the inactivity time of the user, i.e, the duration of the time that the keybord and mouse were not used. Use a static variable (secondsSincePress) in your main class (e.g. MyProgram), add a keyPressed method (along with blank methods for the rest of the KeyListener interface) that sets secondsSincePress to 0, then call MainJFrame.addKeyListener from MyProgram's main. It is basically the same thing for mouse (MouseListener), except I don't think there's any way to detect mouse /movements/ (only presses and entering and leaving the window). Let us know if you still have questions. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: NM: the usual rant
Marc Wilson wrote: On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 10:54:17PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: This is debugging output intended for wireless driver developers only, you are not expected to understand it. Then it shouldn't be outputting it, unless it's asked for. That's a ridiculous statement. /var/log/messages is not something regular users are supposed to be looking at constantly. In normal use, messages get printed there and ignored. That's okay. However, when an error occurs, it is vital the user be able to go to the logs and copy relevant information. Having a enable output to /var/log option would make it very hard to find intermittent errors. If you're an ordinary user and don't plan to file a bug report, just ignore the logs and go on your way. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: NM: the usual rant
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: If you never want to see the error messages, then turn off sending them to the log files. You can configure (r)syslog to throw them away. That's another valid option, if you really think the logs are harming your performance (the impact is usually negligible for desktop machines and small-scale servers). Otherwise, just ignore them. I like the fact that I can go digging in the logs when something goes wrong. I definitely agree. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Alpine will not show attachments
Tom Diehl wrote: Does anyone know how to troubleshoot this problem? I haven't used Alpine, but it sounds like it's deleting the attachment when Firefox exits. The problem is, the Firefox launcher exits immediately if Firefox is already running. That means Alpine is probably deleting the file before Firefox can open it. For troubleshooting, try exiting Firefox before telling Alpine to open the file. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Alpine will not show attachments
Tom Diehl wrote: Well except that I went stupid and left out some important details. If I open up a link in the message it opens firefox and displays the link. Well, that's different. There wouldn't be any attachment to save into the fs in that case, and thus no tmp file for alpine to prematurely delete. If I try to open any attachment it opens the correct program be it firefox, evince or whatever and then gives the error message similar to Unable to open document Error opening file: No such file or directory And when you look for the file manually, it is in fact gone, right? I still think alpine is prematurely deleting it though the fact that it happens with all programs is strange. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Swap file size?
Dave Bolt IT Solutions wrote: Apologies are in order it seems. I had my mail settings set to Mail in HTML, but reply in format received. Since I was receiving plain text, my replies were also plain text. Must have forgotten to change the settings last time I re-installed. (Not suppressing when it takes a working week to install and configure all the applications on this machine). Regards A sane mail program will let you store mail settings in your home directory, which you can keep across installs (separate partition) or at least backup and restore. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Logging from remote sources
Gene Heskett wrote: This, after removing the appropriate # comments, and restarting rsyslog seems to have worked, however the messages are being intermixed with this machines messages. They are marked as coming from the 'router', I presume by a gethostbynumber call someplace. This gives a nice trigger if I can figure out how to use it: I think it's something like: :hostname, isequal, router *.* /var/log/DD_WRT_router.log It may be exactly that, but I haven't tested so I won't say that. See http://www.rsyslog.com/index.php?module=Static_Docsfunc=viewf=/rsyslog_conf.html, http://www.rsyslog.com/doc-rsyslog_conf_filter.html, http://www.rsyslog.com/doc-property_replacer.html, http://www.rsyslog.com/doc-rsyslog_conf_actions.html, and http://wiki.rsyslog.com/index.php/LighttpdVhostErrorlogs I would like to put those in their own log. Is that possible? Yes. which appears to be what you have to uncomment to receive messages. Do you want to receive TCP or UDP? Not sure, so I enabled both. :) That will slow it down, and rsyslog is speed-critical (to ensure you don't miss any logs). Try to understand if data is coming to your machine with tcpdump -i eth0 -n -n That was very informative, the major portion of the net traffic here is being generated by arp, scanning the local subnet asking whohas, getting to .254 and resuming at 1. That was so noisy if I saw anything from the router it scrolled offscreen so fast I couldn't read it. Try: tcpdump -i eth0 -n -n | grep \.514 Or you could grep based on your router's IP. That could be turned off because I use host files here for the majority of my stuff. That's not right. ARP resolves IPs to MAC addresses. It doesn't matter if you never transmit hostnames across the network. AFAIKT from the services config there is no arp daemon running. Oh, ARP is running. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Text editor won't let me edit conf files. How do I?
David Ward wrote: I'm not good at the command line (Just past newbie). I try to edit .conf files to set up samba but the text editor tells me I don't have permission. Use sudoedit. You can configure it to use the editor of your choice (set the environment variables EDITOR and VISUAL). Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Logging from remote sources
Gene Heskett wrote: I think it's something like: :hostname, isequal, router *.* /var/log/DD_WRT_router.log I tried that, and it duplicated the host machines log to the target. :) Can you clarify? You put it as three lines like that? So I'm now trying: :msg, contains, router /var/log/dd-wrt/router.log Counter-intuitively (but seemingly confirmed by some quick testing), I don't think hostname is part of the message. I have another idea that DID appear to work (obviously I tested with my own hostname), though it didn't log as much as I expected .../ominous: :HOSTNAME, isequal, router /var/log/dd-wrt/router.log All one line, capitalized HOSTNAME. Also, just to be safe make sure /var/log/dd-wrt/router.log already exists with the same permissions (user/group/mode) as /var/log/messages before you restart rsyslogd. If I put it on two lines, it fussed on the restart because there was a line without an action. Right, my mistake. Is it an absolute requirement? If not, how to stop it? You /might/ be able to disable it if you hard-coded the MAC address of every machine (including routers, firewalls, etc.) on your LAN. However, I highly advise against attempting this. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: NM: the usual rant
Timothy Murphy wrote: Matthew Flaschen wrote: I agree that it's great if users look at logs and send them to technicians when appropriate. My point is just that if they don't understand them, don't want to look them up, and don't want to report the issue to someone who will, then they should just ignore the logs and stop complaining. You seem to have a bizarre view of Linux. To my mind Linux, and in particular Fedora, is about learning, not about sending problems to technicians. When did I say you shouldn't learn? Look at the message /you just quoted/. I said if you don't want to look them up or do anything else productive, you should stop complaining. Nowhere did I suggest you take an apathetic approach, or ignore everything and send it to tech support. In fact what I recommend is that you take initiative for your own system and learn what you can about it. However, I would not claim that I can figure out everything without seeking help either. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Off the wall quuestion about browsing.
Frank Cox wrote: On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:01:11 +0300 Hiisi wrote: By the way, your browser sends some information about your system and even language you're using on it in a special header. My favourite Fedora' browser - lynx - doesn't send it. Because of that I can't browse some pages. Error message on them says: `Sorry. Probably you're robot!`. You can use Privoxy to send any referrer that you choose. The referer doesn't hold the information Hiisi is talking about, and removing it will block access to some websites. Privoxy can forge other headers too, that are actually relevant to Hiisi's concerns. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: NM: the usual rant
Timothy Murphy wrote: Surely Linux error messages should be intelligible by the common user? Or are they intended solely for gurus? Some are for end users, some are for gurus (meant for posting on bug reports and mailing lists). Translating every error message is not a good use of developer time. Where are the states documented? Use The Source, or be patient. NM = nightmare ... True. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: NM: the usual rant
Tom Horsley wrote: On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:07:31 -0500 Matthew Flaschen wrote: Translating every error message is not a good use of developer time. Yes, it is a far better use of developer time to be inundated by folks asking what the hell obscure messages and behaviour means. No, it's not. Note that I didn't say, Email the error codes the developers personally. File a /thorough/ bug report on a bug tracker or developer mailing list, or ask for advice from users, such as here. But, not to worry, it won't be the actual NM developers who get that grief, but instead the poor fools who offer commercial linux support. You're a fool. What do you think this magical commercial support does when confronted with a problem?They read the source and developer documentation and solve the problem themselves, or they report a bug once they have enough information. Exactly the same thing you could do if you weren't busy whining. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: NM: the usual rant
Tom Horsley wrote: On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:26:09 -0500 Matthew Flaschen wrote: They read the source and developer documentation and solve the problem themselves Too bad the NM developers didn't feel like doing that to fix the problems with network instead of deciding to just chuck everything and write a completely non-functional incompatible replacement. Didn't I agree NM was a nightmare? But your problem is not NM. Your problem is you don't have a realistic view of software development practices. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Off the wall quuestion about browsing.
Aaron Konstam wrote: I notice that when I browse certain sites they can determing what city I live in. How is that done? I can't figure that out. It's based on your IP, and various databases (some more accurate and/or precise than others). You can use tor (http://www.torproject.org/) and/or a traditional HTTP proxy (http://proxy.org/) to get around this. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Resizing NTFS partition to make room for FC10
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Tod Thomas wrote: I know this is a little off topic. I did google around looking for the correct forum to post this question but had little luck. If anyone can make an informed suggestion I'd very much appreciate it. I have a 150GB ATA disk, /dev/hdb, containing winxp. I'd like to move the contents to an spare 80GB ATA disk, /dev/hda, to make room for a full install of FC10 on the larger disk in preparation for ultimately getting the winxp install running under a linux based VM. From knoppix, I started by using ntfsresize to shrink the xp partition down to 20GB. That worked suprisingly fine. I then installed the smaller drive and used dd to copy over the image of the xp installation: dd if=/dev/hdb of=/dev/hda bs=1000 count=2000 That was a bad idea. You've copied the MBR of hdb to the MBR of hda. That's why the hda disk thinks the disk is 150 GB. What you should do is zero the mbr of hda dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 Then, use GParted (or whatever) to create a partition on hda (probably hda1) of the exact same size as the old XP partition (probably hdb1) You may as well partition the other 60 GB of hda at the same time. Then, you should be able to do: dd if=/dev/hdb1 of=/dev/hda1 bs=512 to copy over the XP partition. As usual, you should do backups before such operations and understand the risks if you do not. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Resizing NTFS partition to make room for FC10
Tod Thomas wrote: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda As noted, this is greatly excessive. Do: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 dd if=/dev/hdb1 of=/dev/hda1 bs=1000 count=2000 - copies resized xp partition to new drive That's a bs bs, if you follow me. If you're going to use bs (byte-size) and count, use a sane value of bs like the the logical block size. Otherwise, just leave it out; there's no need. Reboot to new drive and all is well. As noted, you'll need to fix the MBR of hda with fixmbr (or use GRUB). Defragging is factored in somewhere prior to this operation. There is no need to defrag, since you've already done ntfsresize and are simply going to do a bit-for-bit copy from hdb1 to hda1. It might have helped to do a defrag /before/ ntfsresize (since you were squeezing the NTFS filesystem), but no point now. I think upon reboot this will trigger xp to perform a chkdisk. Possibly, due to the earlier ntfsresize. Does this make sense? Mostly. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: file locking...
Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 21:47:39 -0800, bruce bedoug...@earthlink.net wrote: However, the issue with the approach is that it's somewhat synchronous. I'm looking for something that might be more asynchronous/parallel, in that I'd like to have multiple processes each access a unique group of files from the given dir as fast as possible. If each process is accessing a unique group of files why do you need locking? Can you explain a bit more about what is going on? Yes, it seems like you're being deliberately vague. It's understandable if you can't disclose what you're working on for some reason. But in that case, don't expect useful help. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I need copy of fedora linux in DVD form -reg
Ed Greshko wrote: Matthew Flaschen wrote: Senthil Kumar wrote: Respected sir/madam, I am working as a lecturer in a reputed engineering college. Well, as long as its a *reputed* engineering college head over to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia#Fedora_Free_Media_Program_India . Just make sure not to tell the upstart schools nobody's heard of. Sri Vasavi College is known in India. You should try visiting it is sometime. I'd love to if I had a chance. I didn't say it wasn't a good school. But Senthil's comment was fairly ridiculous, particularly when you consider what Robert said. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [OT] I need copy of fedora linux in DVD form -reg
Thierry Sayegh De Bellis wrote: Sri Vasavi College is known in India. You should try visiting it is sometime. I'd love to if I had a chance. I didn't say it wasn't a good school. But Senthil's comment was fairly ridiculous, particularly when you consider what Robert said. Matt Flaschen Since when being formal and polite is ridiculous. You may want to consider cultural diversity before replying with what could be construed as offensive comments. I have no problem with being polite. I just think that the language was a bit excessive. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: I need copy of fedora linux in DVD form -reg
Senthil Kumar wrote: Respected sir/madam, I am working as a lecturer in a reputed engineering college. Well, as long as its a *reputed* engineering college head over to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia#Fedora_Free_Media_Program_India . Just make sure not to tell the upstart schools nobody's heard of. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problem with keyboard layout in kvm virtual machine
Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote: In KDE (system settings - regional and language) I have set the DE keyboard layout as well. Whenever I switch to US there, I immediatedly get the correct layout in the Windows guest, and switching to DE again in KDE brings back the strange layout in Win XP. You didn't mention what your host architecture was. man qemu mentions a -k keyboard language option, but says, This option is only needed where it is not easy to get raw PC key‐codes (e.g. on Macs, with some X11 servers or with a VNC display). You don’t normally need to use it on PC/Linux or PC/Windows hosts. You could try experimenting with that. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Extending Expiration Date of an Already-Expired GPG Key
Robert L Cochran wrote: Thanks everyone for pointing this problem out to me. How do I fix it? I don't sign my emails that much but when I do I'd like a valid signature to show up. Clearly I'm doing something wrong. The basic issue is that not all keyservers know about the update. For instance, pgp.mit.edu did not when I checked: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys C2C60518; gpg --list-keys C2C60518 gpg: requesting key C2C60518 from hkp server pgp.mit.edu gpg: key C2C60518: Robert L. Cochran (Greenbelt) cochr...@speakeasy.net not changed gpg: Total number processed: 1 gpg: unchanged: 1 pub 1024D/C2C60518 2008-01-19 [expired: 2009-01-18] uid Robert L. Cochran (Greenbelt) cochr...@speakeasy.net However, the server you used did: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys C2C60518; gpg --list-keys C2C60518 gpg: requesting key C2C60518 from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net gpg: key C2C60518: Robert L. Cochran (Greenbelt) cochr...@speakeasy.net 2 new signatures gpg: 3 marginal(s) needed, 1 complete(s) needed, PGP trust model gpg: depth: 0 valid: 1 signed: 0 trust: 0-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 1u gpg: Total number processed: 1 gpg: new signatures: 2 pub 1024D/C2C60518 2008-01-19 [expires: 2010-02-21] uid Robert L. Cochran (Greenbelt) cochr...@speakeasy.net This can be remedied by sending to the uninformed keyservers. gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --send-keys C2C60518 gpg: sending key C2C60518 to hkp server pgp.mit.edu Then, we see pgp.mit.edu is now aware of the update. gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys C2C60518; gpg --list-keys C2C60518 gpg: requesting key C2C60518 from hkp server pgp.mit.edu gpg: key C2C60518: Robert L. Cochran (Greenbelt) cochr...@speakeasy.net not changed gpg: Total number processed: 1 gpg: unchanged: 1 pub 1024D/C2C60518 2008-01-19 [expires: 2010-02-21] uid Robert L. Cochran (Greenbelt) cochr...@speakeasy.net Of course, the key servers ordinarily share keys amongst themselves every so often. But a manual update can't hurt. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: GreaseMonkey,in Firefox, Setup New User ??
Jim wrote: Setting up New User Script in Greasemonky, the line below I guess is about where is the script, the script I'm using is in /home/user/WVC210 , what would I enter for @namespace ? @namespace A scope within which @name should be unique. 0-1 The domain of the script's file. It's not that important. It's just supposed to be a unique ID. You could enter your web site. If you don't have a web site, then use your email. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Solid ICE
Gary Scarborough wrote: Is the Solid ICE remote desktop software from Qumranet going to be available in Fedora in the future? To quote their FAQ, Please contact your local Qumranet representative. In other words, not likely, but apparently you can use RDP which Fedora does have. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: can't display Chinese fonts in Windows openoffice 3.0(English version) on wine (Fedora 9 X86_64)
Ron Siven wrote: I'm obviously missing something...I gotta ask... Why would you run a Windows version of OOo in wine on Linux when you could just run the Linux version of OOo? You might have better luck. -- Ron Especially since OpenOffice 3 is in Fedora 10 repos, and that version is actually supported. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to allow local popups in Firefox
Dave Feustel wrote: Does anyone know how to enable popups in local files run via Firefox (with noscript)? noscript doesn't block popups (unless of course they're generated by a script). Perhaps you want to add an exception allowing local popups in general. I believe you can do this by adding a file:/// wildcard in Preferences-Content-Exceptions (next to Block popup windows). If you want to enable all local scripting (unwise, in my opinion) that would be NoScript-Options-Whitelist Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: myqsl dummy needs help
Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 16 February 2009, Steve Searle wrote: Around 02:33pm on Monday, February 16, 2009 (UK time), Gene Heskett scrawled: 3.# mysql -u root mysql 3.# mysql -u root mysql -p ^^ The -p will cause you to be prompted for root's password. What you have tried does not supply the password. Steve Unforch Steve, same error: [r...@coyote etc]# mysql -u root mysql -p Enter password: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES) [r...@coyote etc]# mysql -u root mysql -p Enter password: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES) in each case I entered my root pw at the prompt. Your root password is not MySQL's root password. However, you can change that if you choose (or set whatever pw you want). See the instructions at http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/recover-mysql-root-password.html (though there are other methods) Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Interesting hard disk experience.
Tom Horsley wrote: A disk (apparently) went really bad - the system would hang during POST if it was plugged in. So, I got a new disk, got it formatted and restored from backup, and about the time I finished that process, it developed the same symptoms :-). Figuring it couldn't possibly really be bad so quick, I dug out a new sata cable and plugged it into a different sata connector on the motherboard, You have too many independent variables. Try the new cable with the old connector, then the old cable with the new connector. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Red Hat g++ packaging question
Peter J. Stieber wrote: internal compiler error: in cp_parser_lookup_name, at cp/parser.c:16202 Please submit a full bug report, with preprocessed source if appropriate. See http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla for instructions. The bug is not reproducible, so it is likely a hardware or OS problem. /BuildLogOutput I would recommending doing as suggested and filing a bug at either http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla or http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/ Is it possible that 4.3.3 will be in Fedora 11 so it isn't going to be released in Fedora 10? How would one determine this? Check the Fedora 11 and rawhide mirrors. E.g. gcc 4.4.0 is currently in rawhide (gcc-c++-4.4.0-0.16.i386.rpm) while gcc 4.3.2-7 is in Fedora 11 testing (gcc-c++-4.3.2-7.i386.rpm). See any mirror listings, such as http://mirror.lib.ucdavis.edu/fedora/linux/development/i386/os/Packages/ and http://mirror.lib.ucdavis.edu/fedora/linux/releases/test/11-Alpha/Fedora/i386/os/Packages/ Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How does sudo work these days in F10 ?
Frank Cox wrote: On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:12:24 -0700 Linuxguy123 wrote: How does sudo work these days in F10 ? Pretty much the same as it always has. Why isn't this asking me for the root password ? Because it's asking for your user password. That's what sudo does. If you want to use the root password, use su -c command instead of sudo. Or use rootpw in /etc/sudoers Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is printing dvi files part of cups?
Steven W. Orr wrote: I seem to be able to print lots of different types of files. Is there a list of what is supported? And also, can I print dvi files or do I have to always use dvips? The general place to look is /etc/cups/mime.types . Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F10 Cups / Samba / Vista
Michael Cronenworth wrote: Craig White wrote: I don't think so Michael... /etc/cups/mime.convs... #application/octet-stream application/vnd.cups-raw0 - but it does appear that in /etc/cups/mime.types (my .rpmnew) does 'uncomment' the block on raw printing. It's hard to be certain because I have mucked with these files and upgraded Fedora many versions. yum remove cups rm -rf /etc/cups yum install cups I take good initiative to not lie on a public mailing list - most of the time. It's a bit rich to accuse someone of lying if they're mistaken regarding a config file. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: music download sites?
Anne Wilson wrote: AmazonMP3 has a (proprietary) downloader for Linux that works well. I'd like the downloader to be FOSS, and offer Ogg Vorbis, but... I can't get the Amazon downloader to work on F10. It does work on F9, however. http://www.amazon.com/gp/dmusic/help/amd.html I found that it wasn't needed, so I'm pleased that I didn't have to install it. It is needed, if you want to download complete albums. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where to file bug against man page
Steve wrote: I want to file a RFE bug against a man page but there is no man pages component under Fedora Documentation on the Redhat bugzilla site. Where is the right place to file this? Against the package that contains the man page. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: RAM question for everyone!
Michael Cronenworth wrote: I'm really curious. SATA Hard drive speeds - 70 megs to 150 megs a second unless you're RAIDing DDR2 RAM speeds - 6000 megs a second and up. If performance is a key issue, which I'm sure it is, you don't want swap. No, you don't want to /have/ to use swap in normal production (this means having enough RAM). You still want to have swap for unforeseen circumstances. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: RAM question for everyone!
Kaplan, Andrew H. wrote: Hi there -- One question that needs to be answered is whether or not the operating system in question is 32-bit or 64-bit architecture. The 32-bit architecture has a 'glass ceiling' limit of up to 4 gigabytes of RAM that it can access. It's more of a ice ceiling. With Physical Address Extension, you can bring it up to 4 GB /per process/, and 64 GB total, but it's typically not worth the hassle. However, the OP mentioned 8 GB for one app, so I assume it's 64-bit. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Amazon Kindle and Fedora
Dave Feustel wrote: I would expect to do all my ebook reading on the Kindle. My interest is in downloading my own PDF files onto the Kindle for reading away from my computer. Kindle does not support PDF. However, according to http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=200140600#send you can email f...@free.kindle.com , where foo is your Kindle's name as established at http://www.amazon.com/manageyourkindle Then, Amazon will email you back the file in Kindle's proprietary format. My concern is whether Fedora supports the Kindle usb interface. http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=200137060#connecting says it appears as a USB mass storage device, which Fedora should detect. Then, you should be able to transfer files to the documents folder on the Kindle. I don't have a Kindle, so I can't test these instructions. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [OT] need to find char codes for allowed symbols on Calif Lic. Plates
Mike Wright wrote: open hand symbol? I found a plus sign on the keyboard ;D but would prefer a graphic. According to http://www.alanwood.net/demos/wingdings.html there is no open hand in Unicode. And I'm not sure what kind of plus you want. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Amazon Kindle and Fedora
Dave Feustel wrote: I would only need this capability if Kindle will display my PDF or XML files. It does not display PDF. However, you can convert PDF to .azw then copy the azw's over. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: music download sites?
JD wrote: Many such sites I have looked at to do not need any windows software. You just register, provide your personal info and your credit card numbers. That's it! You are on your own! Or... you can use sites that have been reviewed by reliable publications. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: help with text file?
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: I see your grep and raise you a sed: sed 's/.*[^0-9]//' foo.txt new_file.txt What happens if there is a number in the middle of the line of text, as well as at the end? Wouldn't that give you more text then desired? No, because .* is greedy. The .* will consume all but the very last non-numeric character (including numeric chars before the last non-numeric), then [^0-9] will consume the last non-numeric char. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: For some reason, I am not getting fedora-list emails.
Daniel B. Thurman wrote: For some reason, I am not getting my emails delivered to me from fedora-list, it stopped as of a couple of days ago. It's almost certainly on your end. Try another email provider, or checking your spam folders, etc. Is there a possibility that I was banned, is that possible? Yes, people get banned, but only from posting not from reading. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: help with text file?
Dave Stevens wrote: whitespace, looks like just spaces to me there's no vertical alignment from line to line In that case, any of the solutions given will work. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: For some reason, I am not getting fedora-list emails.
Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I think I will go back to the mailing list to ensure that they did not change my settings. I doubt it changed your settings behind your back. It's more likely that your email provider has a filtering problem. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: help with text file?
Dave Stevens wrote: No, because .* is greedy. The .* will consume all but the very last non-numeric character (including numeric chars before the last non-numeric), then [^0-9] will consume the last non-numeric char. Matt Flaschen ok, ok I give up! I can now see I ought to have posted a data sample, herewith: Yes, you should have, but... so this is a SSL logfile, I only wanted the number at the end of the line. AWK was the first post that did it, all the others produced empty output files. I've got it now. My command: grep -oE [0-9]+$ foo.txtnew_file.txt works exactly as I would expect on my system (provided there's no perversely named 3+$ file in the current directory; if there is, quote the regex). It produces the same result as the awk. Input and output attached. Matt Flaschen [13/Dec/2008:12:02:48 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA GET /ms_tmp/4943eab7_1228_1a.jpg HTTP/1.1 588 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:48 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA GET /ms_tmp/4943eab7_1228_1b.jpg HTTP/1.1 586 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:47 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA GET /ms_tmp/4943eab6_1228_1.jpg HTTP/1.1 162202 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:48 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA GET /ms_tmp/4943eab7_1228_1c.jpg HTTP/1.1 586 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:48 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA GET /ms_tmp/4943eab7_1228_1d.jpg HTTP/1.1 586 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:48 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA GET /ms_tmp/4943eab7_1228_1e.jpg HTTP/1.1 708 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:48 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA GET /ms_tmp/4943eab7_1228_1f.jpg HTTP/1.1 763 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:48 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA GET /ms_tmp/4943eab7_1228_20.jpg HTTP/1.1 699 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:48 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA GET /ms_tmp/4943eab7_1228_21.jpg HTTP/1.1 688 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:48 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA GET /ms_tmp/4943eab7_1228_22.jpg HTTP/1.1 736 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:48 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA GET /ms_tmp/4943eab7_1228_23.jpg HTTP/1.1 677 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:48 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA GET /ms_tmp/4943eab7_1228_24.jpg HTTP/1.1 699 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:48 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA GET /ms_tmp/4943eab7_1228_25.jpg HTTP/1.1 582 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:48 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA GET /ms_tmp/4943eab7_1228_26.jpg HTTP/1.1 734 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:48 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA GET /ms_tmp/4943eab7_1228_27.jpg HTTP/1.1 708 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:48 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA GET /ms_tmp/4943eab7_1228_28.jpg HTTP/1.1 709 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:48 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA GET /ms_tmp/4943eab7_1228_29.jpg HTTP/1.1 733 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:48 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA GET /ms_tmp/4943eab7_1228_2a.jpg HTTP/1.1 714 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:48 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA GET /ms_tmp/4943eab7_1228_2b.jpg HTTP/1.1 748 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:51 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA POST /mapchat/portal/getData.php HTTP/1.1 451 [13/Dec/2008:12:02:57 -0500] 216.99.54.193 SSLv3 DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA POST /mapchat/portal/getData.php HTTP/1.1 451 588 586 162202 586 586 708 763 699 688 736 677 699 582 734 708 709 733 714 748 451 451 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: help with text file?
Dave Stevens wrote: Hi, I have a sequence of lines of ASCII text of varying length, each of which ends with an integer. Anyone have a quick and dirty way of getting these lines copied to a new file with only the last number on each line of the new file? How about: grep -o -E [[:digit:]]+$ foo.txt new_file.txt Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: NetworkManager overwriting resolv.conf
Frank Cox wrote: NM is great for laptops and stuff that relies on dhcp to obtain an address. This is a myth. NM is totally unnecessary and harmful for almost any wired connection. It is /not/ useful for wired DHCP. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: help with text file?
Cameron Simpson wrote: On 17Jan2009 20:36, Matthew Flaschen matthew.flasc...@gatech.edu wrote: | Dave Stevens wrote: | I have a sequence of lines of ASCII text of varying length, each of which ends | with an integer. Anyone have a quick and dirty way of getting these lines | copied to a new file with only the last number on each line of the new file? | | How about: | grep -o -E [[:digit:]]+$ foo.txt new_file.txt I see your grep and raise you a sed: sed 's/.*[^0-9]//' foo.txt new_file.txt I see your sed and raise you an optimized but less readable grep. grep -oE [0-9]+$ foo.txtnew_file.txt Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: whoisd for Fedora?
Aaron Konstam wrote: On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 02:34 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Aaron Konstam wrote: jwhois-4.0-8.fc9.i386 for F9 That's a whois client, not a whoisd (whois server). That isw true, but it uses a whois server that is unversally avalable. So people can run whois servers that are unversally avalable [sic], or indeed locally available. Fedora is a server OS (among other things). It would be very surprising if there is no built-in way to provide whois service. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Encrypted partition backups.
Robin Laing wrote: Is there a tool that allows partition backups of only the changes as with incremental backups? Do we just have to clone the partition and make copies of that each time? You could simply create another encrypted partition (e.g. on USB) with different key, then use rdiff-backup to backup one to the other. Of course, they would both have to be mounted at the same time. I'm not sure if this is the best way, space-wise, but it's conceptually simple and I can't see how it would degrade security. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: rsync help
Joseph L. Casale wrote: I need to sync a cifs mounted share with a usb drive that has an ntfs partition mounted on it. The files in question use some Latin characters and apostrophes etc and that is making rsync fail. You can look at convmv (http://www.j3e.de/linux/convmv/ (see the man directory for basic documentation). Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: rsync help
Joseph L. Casale wrote: You can look at convmv (http://www.j3e.de/linux/convmv/ (see the man directory for basic documentation). I was hoping to not do this, I need an exact copy. Is this a limitation involved in the file systems being used (ntfs) or rsync? One problem is despite NTFS allegedly supporting UTF-16, it actually imposes no valid/invalid character set. According to http://blogs.msdn.com/michkap/archive/2006/09/10/748699.aspx , NTFS allows any sequence of unsigned short values which are not limited to valid Unicode characters. Thus, the actual encoding of filenames is not always UTF-16 (it depends on the locale of the system that created the files), which naturally imposes problems when transferring to and from other systems (the main reason Unicode was invented). Even if the encoding uses only valid UTF-16 characters, that does not mean UTF-16 is necessarily the /correct/ interpretation of such characters. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: netbook jonesing
Craig White wrote: On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 19:50 -0800, Alan Evans wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: How does one install Linux on these puppies? USB Disk? Netboot? I transferred the LiveCD image to SD card and booted/installed from there. cool - I can deal with that. Thanks USB is also a good option. See for instance http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Silly question
Antonio M wrote: Just an example: One of messages from Tim: The full headers really aren't telling u s anything new. The header prefix [3SUSPECT] is being injected by your ISP or one of the servers en route, /not/ Red Hat's server or the sender. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: MP3 playback in XMMS
Rahul Sundaram wrote: I am sure you can help with that. At the minimum, write down a send of things that are missing and file it in the tracker. This is really an enhancement request not a bug. Which tracker would you suggest? Matt -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Grub and two distros
Tim wrote: No, the MBR has the most basic information to be able to read something from a drive. This will be aimed at some partition, where something larger and more useful (e.g. ordinary disc files rather than half a meg of space in the boot record) Actually, half a KB. The MBR is very short loader code, that simply reads the next boot stage from the partition into memory. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: MP3 playback in XMMS
Alan Cox wrote: should have their own service, so if say, I want to search the Fedora 9 repo I don't have to dig through ASPLinux distro packages and other cruft. This should be core functionality. I believe the assumption is that users should be clever enough to type the word fedora in the system box as the search instructions tell you. Actually, the main search box has no such instructions, just Search It does tell me more than I need to know about their ISP, though. Given that rpmfind predates the existance of things like Fedora or Ubuntu Oldies aren't always goodies. and is extremely comprehensive and (if you can work a web form with instructions on it) can find things by distribution it seems rather odd to suggest Fedora should build a pointless clone of the service. I'm not suggesting they build a clone of rpmfind. I'm suggesting they build an interface that's useful. Rpmfind has many problems. URLs like http://rpmfind.net//linux/RPM/fedora/10/i386/ftp-0.17-48.fc10.i386.html are unusable compared to http://packages.debian.org/etch/ftp (or http://packages.debian.org/etch/i386/ftp/download). Telling me the only file in a package is called Ù] is not all that helpful (http://rpmfind.net//linux/RPM/sourceforge/f/fe/fedorafrog/fedora_frog-1.0-8.0.3.i386.html) The search by distribution interface (http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=submit=Search) isn't on the main page and provides no drop down for avaialable distros. If you type something like Fedora 9, it truncates it to Fedora. It's one thing to say no one has time/resources to build something better now. It's quite another to claim this is adequate. Matt Flaschen Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: MP3 playback in XMMS
Rahul Sundaram wrote: It boggles the mind why RPM distros can't use a web GUI like Debian package search (http://packages.ubuntu.com). Instead people have to rely on half-baked third party search tools. If you didn't know, you could have just asked. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb That /could/ become a good end-user search, but right now it isn't. By its own admission it is solely for package developers and release engineers, not end users. It doesn't have obvious functionality like viewing files in a given package. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Netcat on Fedora is a different Netcat
Craig White wrote: I can not find reference to the GPL in packaging of other distributions that I have just checked. OpenSuse and Debian ship a netcat which is effectively public domain, according to the copyright notices I have found. http://directory.fsf.org/project/netcat/ There are apparently at least 3 versions: 1. Classic Netcat (http://www.atstake.com/research/tools/) [URL no longer works, since company has been bought by Symantec], under non-standard permissive license (http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/n/netcat/netcat_1.10-38/netcat-traditional.copyright). 2. GNU Netcat (http://netcat.sourceforge.net/), under GPL 2. 3. OpenBSD Netcat (http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/usr.bin/nc/) under 2-clause BSD. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Netcat on Fedora is a different Netcat
Giuseppe Fuggiano wrote: It seems to be a BSD license. I choosen Linux for the GPL license and I usually avoid the non-GPL software (Free Software) when adviced of that, of course. 2 clause BSD is free software, and in fact GPL-compatible. It's not copyleft itself, but that's no reason to reject it. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: how can I play DVD's on Fedora 10 ?
Kevin Kempter wrote: Hi All; can anyone point me to packages or a write-up on how to get DVD playback working in Fedora 10 ? http://www.fedorafaq.org/#dvd Matthew Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: MP3 playback in XMMS
Michael Schwendt wrote: Though, the main web pages are in a Wiki, and some pages are out-of-date or contain errors. Such as the link to Information on the various packages RPM Fusion distributes (- http://rpmfusion.org/Package ) near the top the page. I doubt there are enough human resources to keep a lot of web pages in good shape - they better concentrate on very few albeit relevant pages. It boggles the mind why RPM distros can't use a web GUI like Debian package search (http://packages.ubuntu.com). Instead people have to rely on half-baked third party search tools. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Python Guru needed
Jim wrote: FC 10/KDE I'm trying to set a simple Alarm Clock in FC10 and I have a Python script I picked up, but I have error, running the script. Can you explain to me with # comments on each line how to make this work. import time import os not_executed = 1 while(not_executed): dt = list(time.localtime(time.time()) hour = dt[3] minute = dt[4] if hour == 5 and minute == 45: os.popen2(open /Users/jun/shout.mp3) not_executed = 0 Error Message; $ python AlarmClock File AlarmClock, line 7 dt = list(time.localtime(time.time()) ^ IndentationError: expected an indented block It's because of Python's always charming significant whitespace. I.E. Python uses indenting instead of braces, making problems like this extremely common. (No sane language even has IndentationErrors. Also, you were missing a paren, but that's not what caused the error above. A correct version is attached. Hopefully it will not get mangled by your client. Matt Flaschen import time import os not_executed = 1 while(not_executed): dt = list(time.localtime(time.time())) hour = dt[3] minute = dt[4] if hour == 5 and minute == 45: os.popen2(open /Users/jun/shout.mp3) not_executed = 0 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Python Guru needed
stan wrote: In Python indentation matters. And it needs to be consistent within a block. The python interpreter is telling you that you should have started an indented block at the while but there is no indented block. Incidentally, doesn't this also mean it's impossible to do the equivalent of: while(true) { } ? Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: MP3 playback in XMMS
Craig White wrote: fedora is obviously not the distribution for you...perhaps you should be using Ubuntu where they simply don't care about patent rights or licensing and have strategically located servers to completely get around that. Eh? Ubuntu doesn't ship MP3 either. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: MP3 playback in XMMS
Craig White wrote: Eh? Ubuntu doesn't ship MP3 either. multi-verse? Nothing from multiverse is on the shipped CDs, nor is it enabled by default. It's exactly the same as rpmfusion, etc.. You have to add it to sources.list yourself. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is this problem solvable?
Timothy Murphy wrote: My question is: given that I can ping the machine, is there any way I can re-boot it remotely, or even just re-start shorewall? You haven't provided enough info, but I would guess no. ssh would be the typical method for doing this. Obviously, it is not possible to reboot a machine using ping. So the question is are there any other working services you could use (rsh, vnc, X Server)? Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to Burn a Music DVD on K3B
Jorge Fábregas wrote: On Saturday 03 January 2009 12:43:22 pm Jim wrote: K3B only has a selection for burning a Audio CD Project 80 min. I want to burn Audio to a DVD 4gig, no what I do it holds me to 80 min. which is a Cd. You can't do that, AFAIK. An Audio CD is a standard (search for Red Book standard) and it doesn't work with recordable DVD's. Now, if you want to burn a DVD with music content (e.g. MP3, AAC files etc) that's another story...and that's where you would select Create DATA DVD on K3B. And of course you can burn a DVD full of CD-style audio (44.1kHz, 2 channels, 16-bit sample WAV files), but there's not any real point. Ogg Vorbis or FLAC are better choices. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Upgrade Caused Downgrade
Ed Greshko wrote: You knowif you tell people where about the same place is and the errors you are getting someone may be able to help you. I agree. You've provided lots of information about your hardware, which is helpful. But you need to also note the text of the errors, and relevant context. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Curiosity -- No JRE package in Fedora 10 ??
Kevin Fenzi wrote: There were legal issues (which were overcome), but then FreeMind uses Sun's JAXB to build, which will never be in Fedora. ;( Uh, why? The latest version of JAXB is available under both CDDL and GPLv2, and I don't think it has any internal license incompatibilities the way FreeMind seems to. Also, Fedora does have Ws-Jaxme, which at least in theory could itself be modified to support FreeMind. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: firefox and 'call home' addons
g wrote: i do not have a 'greasemonkey' addon, but i do have 'noscript' and it is when 'noscript' is active that i get drastic slow down. The real Greasemonkey (https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/748) is a reliable and useful piece of software. A malware program just stole the name, as is common. i have made no downloads, or logged any sites, other than what i believe to be safe and always log on with 'noscript' set to block java. The real NoScript (http://noscript.net/) is also useful, though it will cause a small slowdown, because it intercepts all script loads. what would be nice is to know just what script is so that i could check to see if it might be loaded. 'noscript' caused no trouble until 2 or 3 upgrades back and then i started seeing slow down. That's possible, since it keeps getting more and more complex (e.g. anti-cross site scripting protection) though I have the latest version, and performance is still good. Best, Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Pulseaudio(?) vs. Flash vs. Amarok
Tim wrote: On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 00:29 -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: If you start Firefox to play a Flash URL, Amarok is silent, till you kill Firefox and Amarok, and restart Amarok. Similarly, if you start Amarok, Firefox/Flash will be silent till Amarok is killed and Firefox is restarted. I thought Pulseaudio was supposed to provide multiplex capabilities for Linux -- apparently not. It is supposed to, but will still be held up by other things which do not use PulseAudio. Any one of them grabbing hold of the audio hardware, and not letting go, will prevent anything else from using it, including PulseAudio. Yes, but isn't PulseAudio also supposed to provide fake device files so programs that do this can't actually get exclusive control and instead use PulseAudio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PulseAudio)? Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [sudo-users] How to disable ( deny ) user to change the password of root
Gordon Messmer wrote: Yes, there is. Don't let users execute any of those commands directly. That's not a solution. The user can still edit /etc/passwd manually. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: The number pad doesn't work on my laptop...
Linuxguy123 wrote: Its an HP HDX9494. I think it worked about a month ago. Any ideas ? Try running xev from a command-line, then pushing the keys. That will tell you if the keypresses are being detected at all. If they are, you can map them using xmodmap. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Encryption:
Adalbert Prokop wrote: Jeff Maxwell wrote on Saturday 15 November 2008: Which encryption tool/application would be preferred - PGP or other? If you could be more specific, WHAT you want to encrypt? Here some suggestions. - Single files, E-Mails- GPG (you might refer to it as PGP) - Directories - fuse + encfs - Partitions, file systems - cryptsetup (possibly with luks) I would recommend cryptsetup+luks. It's convenient, and efficient. You can use a loopback device or any drive you have lying around. Make sure you allocate enough space, though, or you have to reencrypt a new partition and move everything over. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Livestation.com - worldwide internet tv for fedora
Dave Feustel wrote: Thanks for the info. I got rid of all my vcrs and tvs several years ago after developing the opinion that tv is a bad influence. Every so often I sort of wish I could easily watch newsclips on Youtube, etc. Eh? You can watch YouTube using gnash. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to enter unicode in F9
Dave Feustel wrote: In vim, entering ctl-V u works. This does not work for me on the xterm command line (ksh is shell). Is there a way to enter unicode characters in xterm? One way that will work in any shell is: uc() { /usr/bin/printf \\u$1; }; Then, use e.g. echo $(uc 2639) You can export uc from your initialization file. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to enter unicode in F9
Colin Paul Adams wrote: I just tried this, and I get presented with a prompt. Can you clarify? What shell are you using, and what kind of prompt did you see?? Did you paste exactly: uc() { /usr/bin/printf \\u$1; }; as the first line and echo $(uc 2639) as the second? You should see a smiley face (☹) for this example. Matt Flaschen -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to enter unicode in F9
Gene Heskett wrote: Except that is a 'frownie' as displayed here, and in this email. ☺ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines