Re: F12 updates-testing issue: X flickers and fails to start
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 11:12:07 +0200 (EET) Pekka Savola wrote: Now gdm login however doesn't show my username and fingerprint login is no longer an option Looks like the issue with hal-0.5.14-1: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F12/FEDORA-2009-12840 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Thunderbird crashing while trying to send e-mail (apparently trouble while composing message)
I searched BZ for your bugreport (you could have provided a link) and found it: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=543120 On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 10:19:07 -0200 casimiro barreto wrote: Since November 29 I detected that thunderbird is crashing whenever I try to send e-mail. This is valuable information. Why don't you put it in the bugreport? Bugzilla report filled (I see that several other users have had the same problem also reported). If you find duplicate reports, please mark them as such if you can. But it appears in bugzilla as a low priority medium severity problem. Priority has no standardized meaning. Most maintainers do not use this field at all. Michal -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Pulseaudio in F12
Dne Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:05:28 -0200 Paulo Cavalcanti napsal(a): Thanks for the explanation. At least 3 applications are not restoring the volumes: xmms, mplayer and audacious. Interesting. Maybe these programs try to be too clever and force the volume themselves. The solution is using the alsa plugin, and not the pulse plugin in these cases. Some others work fine, such as rhythmbox, amarok, vlc, and kradio4. Michal -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Pulseaudio in F12
Dne Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:12:38 +0100 Michael Schwendt napsal(a):
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:38:15 +0100, Michal wrote:
Dne Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:05:28 -0200 Paulo Cavalcanti napsal(a):
Thanks for the explanation.
At least 3 applications are not restoring the volumes:
xmms, mplayer and audacious.
Interesting. Maybe these programs try to be too clever and force the
volume themselves.
It's not an attempt at being too clever, but several upstream
developers feel lost in what they have to do or what they have not to
do to get something right. Temporarily, Audacious devlopers have
dropped their pulse_audio driver (originally from XMMS) even, since
they were of the impression that it didn't work anyway. Ubuntu
users currently feel punished with Pulse Audio. With a first bunch of
fixes [for volume issues in Fedora 12 Rawhide, volume decreased for
every new song], the driver was restored again for Audacious 2.2
development. With more recent changes in Pulse Audio, it seems, more
changes are necessary. But Audacious 2.1 cannot reflect external
volume level changes in its UI anyway. Its volume slider cannot move
for volume level changes made with external tools. Only the next
release can do that, and it suffers from new bugs (such as a bug in
alsa-lib that will require an update in Fedora, too).
Thanks for the explanation. Before I saw your reply, I played with
audacious-plugins and made a kludge to prevent it from forcing 100 %
volume on startup. It probably breaks something else, I haven't really
tested it too much.
Notice that the documentation for pa_stream_connect_playback strongly
recommends passing NULL as volume.
Index: audacious-plugins-fedora-2.1/src/pulse_audio/pulse_audio.c
===
--- audacious-plugins-fedora-2.1.orig/src/pulse_audio/pulse_audio.c
+++ audacious-plugins-fedora-2.1/src/pulse_audio/pulse_audio.c
@@ -666,7 +666,7 @@ static int pulse_open(AFormat fmt, int r
pa_stream_set_write_callback(stream, stream_request_cb, NULL);
pa_stream_set_latency_update_callback(stream, stream_latency_update_cb,
NULL);
-if (pa_stream_connect_playback(stream, NULL, NULL,
PA_STREAM_INTERPOLATE_TIMING|PA_STREAM_AUTO_TIMING_UPDATE, volume, NULL) 0) {
+if (pa_stream_connect_playback(stream, NULL, NULL,
PA_STREAM_INTERPOLATE_TIMING|PA_STREAM_AUTO_TIMING_UPDATE, NULL, NULL) 0) {
AUDDBG(Failed to connect stream: %s,
pa_strerror(pa_context_errno(context)));
goto unlock_and_fail;
}
@@ -715,6 +715,7 @@ static int pulse_open(AFormat fmt, int r
}
pa_operation_unref(o);
+#if 0
/* set initial volume */
if (!(o = pa_context_set_sink_input_volume(context,
pa_stream_get_index(stream), volume, NULL, NULL))) {
g_warning(pa_context_set_sink_input_volume() failed: %s,
pa_strerror(pa_context_errno(context)));
@@ -725,6 +726,7 @@ static int pulse_open(AFormat fmt, int r
pa_threaded_mainloop_wait(mainloop);
}
pa_operation_unref(o);
+#endif
do_trigger = 0;
written = 0;
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Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?
Dne Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:46:54 -0600 Bruno Wolff III napsal(a): On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 17:09:14 +, Terry Barnaby ter...@beam.ltd.uk wrote: I really want to help and get a stable release and present bug reports and even fix them if I can. But, the current short term release schedule, and no focus on testing and fixing graphics issues, does not inspire me with confidence that a stable usable release will emerge. This makes it difficult for me to justify the effort. Convince me :) I follow the radeon updates pretty closely and my 9200 finally starting working with 3d again a few weeks before the release. Airlie has continued development in the f12 branch and there have been several updates over the last couple of weeks. +1 The ATI graphics in my laptop works in F12 better than ever before. Thanks to Dave Airlie and other developers. The activity of the QA team has also been more visible recently. So I disagree with Terry about the lack of focus on testing and fixing graphics issues. Michal -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12 Extremely Unstable
Dne 25.11.2009 03:08, brad longo napsal(a): 1. Fedora 12 crashes frequently and makes it almost unusable for me. It seems to crash whenever I try to edit/change sound preferences. When I do this I get logged out and then have to log back in. I can repeat this at any time by going to go System-Preferences-Sound. Getting suddenly logged out is usually a symptom of an X server crash. Please look into /var/log/Xorg* to see if you are getting any backtraces. Michal -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: F12: where did window properties go?
Dne 19.11.2009 01:08, Rahul Sundaram napsal(a): On 11/19/2009 05:33 AM, Tom Lane wrote: Wow, so we're going to seriously piss off some significant fraction of the userbase in order to save 59k. Personally, I don't care about most of the random UI changes that get thrown in during every Fedora cycle, but lack of focus follows mouse would get me to move to some other distro. I wonder how many people will abandon Fedora without bothering to read the fine print in the release notes. What distribution they go to will do the same thing, next cycle considering this will be a upstream change. Are you sure it's an upstream change and not just a Fedora packaging specialty? Looking into the Gnome git tree (http://git.gnome.org/cgit/gnome-control-center/tree/capplets) I found no indication why the window capplet should not be treated as equal to the other capplets. Michal -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Installing F12-Beta
Dne 2.11.2009 08:47, Steven James Drinnan napsal(a): David why you are so upset? No need to get nasty. I simply posted a message about my problems installing F12. I did not Hijack any thread (see the subject name). You posted your message as a reply to the other thread. That's what David called hijacking. You're right that it's not a reason to get nasty. It's only a little mistake, not a crime :-) Just try to not repeat the mistake in the future. As I said I have posted a bug report at bugzilla (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=531156) OK, thanks for the link. I put a reply there. Bugzilla is a better place to discuss specific bugs than fedora-devel-list. Thank you for testing the Beta release. Michal -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Feature request: AMD K10 thermal sensors
Dne 31.10.2009 12:51, Christoph Höger napsal(a): Just one question: How are the lm_sensors names (10h, 11h) related to current processors? 11h seems to be WIP. AMD codename K10 refers to family 10h CPUs (Phenom, Phenom II). You can see your cpu family in /proc/cpuinfo. It's decimal there, so 10h will be shown as 16. Michal -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Wodim trouble
Dne 2.11.2009 17:31, Kevin Kofler napsal: Ankur Sinha wrote: wodim is completely unmaintained since May 6th 2007, don't expect to see any fixes anytime soon as long as Redhat continues to distribute wodim instead of the original software. Can someone please clear this up? It's just the usual FUD from Jörg Schilling. Ignore it. The latest commit to cdrkit upstream was 3 weeks ago. Although you are technically right, the commits for the last two years have been boring cleanups, typo fixes and warning silencers. They don't seem to be fixing any actual bugs in CD/DVD burning. The last commit that did something which looks like a technical change was indeed on 2007-05-06 ( http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/debburn/cdrkit/trunk/wodim/?rev=767sc=1 ). Look here for the log and read the commit messages: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/debburn/cdrkit/trunk/wodim/?op=logrev=0sc=0isdir=1 So wodim does not look like a well maintained project to me. Michal -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Feature request: AMD K10 thermal sensors
Dne 29.10.2009 12:38, Christoph Höger napsal(a): since a year or so the AMD K10 thermal sensors module (k10temp) seems to be floating around the web. I would appreciate some kernel packager integrating it into the fedora 11 stock kernel - since without it I can not build (and trust!) a silent cooling system. Any plans on this issue? AMD K10 sensors support has been repeatedly refused by upstream lm_sensors developers because of the sensors' unreliability. e.g. Rudolf Marek said in LKML on 2009-08-28: There is a problem that all chips of fam10h have some errata which renders the monitoring driver unusable. Some people proposed a workaround if temps look too suspicious to refuse to load. This is against a sense of monitoring to refuse the values where they don't look right. So there is no driver. Michal -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fwd: Request to update ATi OSS driver for Fedora 12
On 10/22/2009 01:56 PM, Liang Suilong wrote: I try to add kernel parameter nomodeset to turn off KMS. After logging in Gnome and run gnome-terminal, I can scroll up and down my mouse so smoothly. I do not feel scrolling in the terminal is slow. I noticed that performance with KMS is more affected than non-KMS by the debugging options which are enabled in Rawhide kernel. The final release will have most of them disabled, so there's a chance the performance with KMS will improve. You could try rebuilding the kernel without debugging to confirm it. Michal -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Fedora 12 Beta
Dne 21.10.2009 12:31, Michał Piotrowski napsal: I just installed F12 Beta. Here are some thoughts Hello, Thank you for testing the Beta. 1 - during the first boot smolt panicked - there was an error related to time zones in python-sitepackages or something like that. 2 - I tried to reboot the system - ctrl + alt + del, but it stopped on process termination 3 - after reboot system wanted my root password for partition check - after I pressed each key, the system gave me a communicate about wrong password I guess this is a plymouth bug. I disabled it in grub conf and system works correctly. Is there any chance to completely remove plymouth from the system? (even from initrd) 4 - F12 boots really slow on my laptop http://www.stardust.webpages.pl/files/tmp/bootchart.png something wrong is happening while udev loading 5 - default gnome sound scheme is terrible Have you file Bugzilla tickets for any of these issues? If not yet, please do so and provide more detailed information if possible. Thanks, Michal -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Buyer Beware: A Major Change in NFS is about to happen
Dne Fri, 2 Oct 2009 06:08:16 + (UTC) Matej Cepl napsal(a): Jesse Keating, Thu, 01 Oct 2009 07:39:16 -0700: We've stopped caring about anything outside of the critical path. Thanks for clarifying it. At least I know now that I should give up on maintaining Fedora packages because nobody cares about them. You're misinterpreting Jesse's quote out of context. I'm sure the intent was NOT nobody cares about your packages. I read it as: We (rel-eng) will always approve your tag request for a non-critical package because we trust you as a packager that the package is a bugfix. We will be more careful with critical path packages though, because of the inherent risk of breaking the release. Michal -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Can't login to F11 - how to report bug?
Dne Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:24:43 +0200 Andreas Tunek napsal(a): On my other computer running F11 with GNOME and Compiz enabled I can't log in to GNOME any more. When GNOME tries to load I get the screen goes black and I am sent out to the GDM login screen. Any idea where the problem could be? I kind of suspect Compiz, but since I can't disable Compiz I don't know. And if I don't know I can't file a bug... Anyone have any ideas on how to proceed? Perhaps it's this bug?: Update to xserver-xorg 1.6.3 blocks login with compiz enabled: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=518748 Michal -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: F12 Alpha problems
Dne Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:24:39 -0500 Mike Chambers napsal(a): 2 - When trying to start the Appearance program, it starts but closes itself after a few seconds without being able to click on anything. Known: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=519293 Michal -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Firmware licence question
Dne Thu, 20 Aug 2009 15:51:04 +0400 Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus) napsal(a): I very want see this driver in Fedora: http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/packages/dkms-tiacx/ This is free and even packaged, so no problem there... May be except what it dkms? But it have not kernel modules (I known what it is not permitted) and built automatically on install phase. It doesn't matter what build mechanism it uses. It's a 3rd party kernel module, so it won't be included in Fedora. But it depend on http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/packages/acx111-firmware/ and http://dag.wieers.com/rpm/packages/acx100-firmware/ binary firmware images. So, I want maintain all this packages in Fedora. Main question - it is permitted? It will not be blocked as FE-legal? License: Unknown for the firmware is definitely not a good sign. Michal -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: F11: Bug in sh-4.0 source build-in command
Dne Mon, 03 Aug 2009 20:46:55 +0200 Dario Lesca napsal(a): There is a bug in sh-4.0 source command: Must specify directory (./file) for filename, without not work. sh-4.0# cd /tmp sh-4.0# echo aaa=ppp sourcefile sh-4.0# ls -l sourcefile -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8 3 ago 20:37 sourcefile sh-4.0# cat sourcefile aaa=ppp sh-4.0# . sourcefile sh: .: sourcefile: file not found sh-4.0# source sourcefile sh: source: sourcefile: file not found sh-4.0# echo $aaa sh-4.0# source ./sourcefile sh-4.0# echo $aaa ppp sh-4.0# exit hope this help. Not a bug. You're running bash in POSIX mode (probably you ran sh). In POSIX mode the current directory is not searched by the source command. This is documented in the manpage. Michal -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: [ANNOUNCE] New Mixer Handling in PA 0.9.16/F12
Dne Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:35:54 -0400 Dr. Diesel napsal(a):
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 29.07.09 06:48, Jeff Garzik wrote:
Any developer who claims always use software mixing or always
use hardware mixing is a young, inexperienced fool. There are
valid situations for both choices.
Hear hear, Mr. Garzik is the the old experienced wise man of audio,
who knows so much more about audio than any of the audio guys at
Microsoft or Apple.
Happy to take patches.
Lennart
Here is a patch, 2 weeks old.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=461546
I took a look at the bug and also at the related upstream Trac ticket
http://www.pulseaudio.org/ticket/606
A few observations:
- The patch has nothing to do with {soft,hard}ware mixing. It's about
system-wide mode of PA.
- The patch may be 2 weeks old, but there was active discussion
about it just 2 days ago.
- It's funny how in the BZ the proponent of the patch first accused
Lennart of Dreppering the bug and then he himself needlessly
insulted Lubomir Rintel who had reviewed the patch.
- In the upstream ticket the patch proponent uses undiplomatic innuendo
in most comments and stubbornly demands his patch to be accepted
even though it is seen as a kludge by both Lennart and Colin and
Lennart gives a hint how it should be solved in a better way.
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] New Mixer Handling in PA 0.9.16/F12
Dne Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:21:00 +0200 Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski napsal: But whatever. Just please stop imposing pulseaudio on those who don't want to use it. For the record, I'm still considering leaving Fedora because - as a GNOME desktop - it's becoming unusable without pulseaudio. Making it a hard dependency for GNOME bluetooth stack in F11 went a bit too far in my opinion. I did that, and the reasons for it were discussed on this list. Nobody has made any headway into explaining how to fix the problem[1] without the hard dependency. [1]: That'd be out-of-the-box Bluetooth headset and speakers support While having support for stuff like that is great, I still would like to be able to remove pulseaudio (even it it means losing support for bluetooth headsets and speakers) without losing the rest of gnome-bluetooth. Dominik, if you don't want to use PA, remove only alsa-plugins-pulseaudio, then the default ALSA output won't be redirected to PA. You can leave pulseaudio package installed to satisfy the dependencies. Michal -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: Purging the F12 orphans
Dne Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:58:43 -0700 Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com napsal(a): Unblocked orphan tpm-tools I've taken tpm-tools. Michal -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: KPackageKit fail
Dne Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:34:40 +0200 Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com napsal(a): I'm testing Rawhide with latest updates and KPackageKit fails to do updates, I get this error log: http://fpaste.org/paste/13851 It is works for you haven't tested it please do, if it works for you then ignore this message, if not then reply if you need some more feedback from me and I will open a new bug report then. Looks like https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=502399 Michal -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
Re: gnaughty is a hot babe
On Fri, 29 May 2009 18:03:59 +0300 Muayyad AlSadi wrote: as I said I don't want you to tag them I want you to limit the list for me from more than 10,000 package which increases at arbitrary time to tens of packages on a wiki that I can //watch// (a feature of the wiki) Deciding whether to put a package on some list is equivalent to tagging. Go ahead, start this wiki page, try to find others who find it important to help you maintain it. What you're asking is that others (who don't care about this issue and can't even realistically know what your exact requirements are) do the work for you. This can not bring satisfactory results. Michal -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
