Re: installation from boot.iso on a usb stick
Andras Simon wrote: > > Is this possible? Or only the live cd can be transferred to a usb drive? > > I like what > http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f12/en-US/html/ch-new-users.html#sn-which-files > says about installing from boot.iso, but if that requires a "real cd", > then I won't be able to do it. > > Worth having a look at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo#How_to_Make_a_bootable_USB_Drive_to_Install_Fedora_11_instead_of_using_a_physical_DVD -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/installation-from-boot.iso-on-a-usb-stick-tp27082441p27090133.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mailing list losing mail?
On Fri, 2010-01-08 at 11:36 -0800, Mike Wright wrote: > Mine is a qmail server that's been in service for years. Neither it nor > its dns has been changed (that I remember) and all other mail seems to > show up almost immediately. I've been on this list for a really long > time and never had problems before. > > Wonder what it could be? Being that the email server(s) are moving to Fedora infastructure from Red Hat server, maybe that might make a difference. I"d wait until after this weekend when the move is completed, then evaluate how it's going. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mailing list losing mail?
g wrote: g wrote: Mike Wright wrote: Hi all, this email took about 6 minutes to come back thru list. why delay, i can not answer. but i do see where. while waiting, i looked at you email of 2010.0108 and i did note a delay of about 1 hour. being that you are using thunderbird, use to have a look at headers and you will see where it was delayed. Thanks g, This is from the last 9 messages headers. At first it looked like dns errors, then maybe greylisting, but I think the variation in delivery times points to something else. The delay is always between my server and the server below. Received: from mx1-phx2.redhat.com (HELO mx01.util.phx2.redhat.com) 00:28:14 00:28:21 00:28:13 00:24:56 00:26:41 00:24:43 00:28:46 00:26:50 00:20:08 Mine is a qmail server that's been in service for years. Neither it nor its dns has been changed (that I remember) and all other mail seems to show up almost immediately. I've been on this list for a really long time and never had problems before. Wonder what it could be? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
mailing list losing mail?
Hi all, This list is getting more messed up by the day. Several weeks ago mail started lagging 10-25 minutes. Now mail is disappearing. I sent a post to this list yesterday @ 22:44 UTC. My server shows that it was accepted and queued for delivery. It never showed up on the list (I've checked to make sure it didn't accidentally get caught in a spam filter.) Oddly, it did show up in the gmane archives. So, I reposted that email this morning @ 16:32 UTC and once again it never appeared but did show up in gmane almost immediately. UPDATE: I just received a copy of my post 31 minutes after sending it. How can my mail make it into gmane's archives almost immediately but take more than half an hour to appear on fedora-list? These delays certainly (imo) take a lot of the usefulness away from this forum. Starting to remind me of snail mail conversations :/ My 0.02, Mike Wright -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
kb to control audio line-in instead of pcm
Hi all, [Reposted: apology if this appears twice. I never received a copy from fedora-list although it did make it to gmane] This is a generic question about some user settings. Hope this is not considered off-topic. I need some help from the sound gurus among us. Running f10, pulseaudio in charge. My Logitech keyboard has 3 keys for audio: mute, up, down. Looking at my keyboard shortcuts I see that they are bound to XF86AudioMute, XF86AudioLowerVolume, XF86AudioRaiseVolume. If I open the Volume Control applet I see that it is using the Alsa mixer. Two of the sliders are PCM and Line-in. The XF86Audio functions are bound to the PCM control. Is there a way to change that binding so that the XF86Audio controls refer to Line-in? (some of my favorite stuff is 33 1/3 rpm :) Mike Wright :m) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
kb to control audio line-in instead of pcm
Hi all, This is a generic question about some user settings. Hope this is not considered off-topic. I need some help from the sound gurus among us. Running f10, pulseaudio in charge. My Logitech keyboard has 3 keys for audio: mute, up, down. Looking at my keyboard shortcuts I see that they are bound to XF86AudioMute, XF86AudioLowerVolume, XF86AudioRaiseVolume. If I open the Volume Control applet I see that it is using the Alsa mixer. Two of the sliders are PCM and Line-in. The XF86Audio functions are bound to the PCM control. Is there a way to change that binding so that the XF86Audio controls refer to Line-in? (some of my favorite stuff is 33 1/3 rpm :) Mike Wright :m) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: firefox disk IO
Reid Rivenburgh wrote: > > >>> I have seen that in the past. I'm not sure what improved things for >>> me; maybe the two block options you mentioned. You may also want to >>> try cleaning up your database files, as described here: >>> >>> http://garmahis.com/tips/how-to-speed-up-firefox-by-cleaning-its-databases/ >>> > > There is a neat extension that does the vacuuming at https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/13878 and can be set to do it periodically for you. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/firefox-disk-IO-tp27020505p27026732.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Firefox KDE integration à la openSUSE
Mail Lists sapience.com> writes: > > Actually chrome is way faster, more secure and takes way way less > memory - I suspect firefox usage will slowly tail off much like netscape > did in the past - as chrome takes over .. it is so so much better ... > even in its beta form. > > I'd focus your energies there were I you ... > Yes Chrome has much promise especially as it is webkit based and not gecko based. Chrome still has issues to resolve - like it does not do rss feeds, and reloading a page often won't reload and you have to clear the browser history. However it does have things that Firefox does not - like speed, and separated processes for each tab - the latter is very fundamentally better than the way Firefox works - It time I agree that it does look as though Chrome may well win - if the Firefox developers don't pay attention to the competition - and gecko is not the way forward - webkit is! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kdm crash with wrong password
Mail Lists-3 wrote: > > On 12/31/2009 01:25 PM, Mike Cloaked wrote: > >> I believe that this relates to >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506171 >> >> So this bug is not resolved despite the implication in the last post on >> the >> bz! > > > Obviously if bugs are closed, then there must be less bugs no ;-) > > I could have sworn I saw your left eye twitch just then! -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/two-major-failures-after-yesterday-updates---anyone-else-tp26109441p26981704.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: kdm crash with wrong password
Mike Cloaked wrote: > > > I am following up on this issue concerning entering the wrong password > into kdm which then crashes - this problem is still there - today on a > fully up to date f11 system one of our family entered the password wong > and kdm or X crashed - > > I am surprised this bug has not been sorted out by now - the posts that > relate to this were from the end of October! > I believe that this relates to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506171 So this bug is not resolved despite the implication in the last post on the bz! -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/two-major-failures-after-yesterday-updates---anyone-else-tp26109441p26981097.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
kdm crash with wrong password
Mike Cloaked wrote: > > > > Bugzilla from gabriello.rami...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> in the above case, maybe her mistyped her password in one ocassion and >> when typed it correctly , the machine got the following bug >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506171 " If password >> entered incorrectly in KDM, next successful login causes X server >> shutdown and hang " >> >> maybe you can try to mistype your password and enter correctly with >> kernel 2.6.30.8-64 to discard kernel-2.6.30.9-90.fc11.i686.PAE as the >> cause >> >> > > For your first comment about the response of the system to a mistyped > password in kdm I was not aware of - I'll ask if this it was a second > login attempt when I talk to her later - and yes i do have kdm as the > login manager. The status of the bz you referred to linked to an upstream > bug which has not had any reply since the end of August! > > I am following up on this issue concerning entering the wrong password into kdm which then crashes - this problem is still there - today on a fully up to date f11 system one of our family entered the password wong and kdm or X crashed - I am surprised this bug has not been sorted out by now - the posts that relate to this were from the end of October! -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/two-major-failures-after-yesterday-updates---anyone-else-tp26109441p26981067.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Installation plays hardball
On Thu, 2009-12-31 at 08:25 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote: > At the bottom of that window when you make your choice, there is a box > that says (paraphrasing) - Review modifications - that you can check to > make sure it's doing the right thing. And if it's not, you can modify > what is going on and change it, or at least hit back button and choose a > different option. (this box won't appear if you customize obviously) Ya know, after reading this and discussing on irc, actually that box needs to either move up higher or actually just be automatically included in partitioning as sure it's not that much more bigger deal to include? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: The Counter-Fedora People At #fedora
On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 23:48 -0500, Randy Yates wrote: > Why do the following people, time after time, insist on banning me for > asking fedora questions on #fedora? > > VileGent Might try going back in, possibly unbanned now I think (I know, was there and saw it). Take it up with above nick on why was banned, not my fight. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Installation plays hardball
On Thu, 2009-12-31 at 13:17 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2009-12-31 at 12:13 +, Colin Paul Adams wrote: > > >>>>> "John" == John Aldrich writes: > > > > John> As I said, you need to choose to use a custom partition > > John> scheme, otherwise, Fedora will wipe every linux partition as > > John> happened to you. Granted, it's not obvious, but if you've > > John> been playing with linux for more than a couple > > John> distributions, I'd think you'd already have some notion of > > John> this by now. > > > > I've been using Fedora since its inception, and it wasn't obvious to > > me at all. I didn't actually trip up over it, as I was treading very > > carefully, but I must say I have plenty of sympathy for the OP. > > Agreed. The exact consequences of each choice need to be explained much > more explicitly, including a specific warning of when the next step will > be irreversible. At the bottom of that window when you make your choice, there is a box that says (paraphrasing) - Review modifications - that you can check to make sure it's doing the right thing. And if it's not, you can modify what is going on and change it, or at least hit back button and choose a different option. (this box won't appear if you customize obviously) -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Nouveau driver with nvidia dual head
On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 09:08 -0500, Kirk Lowery wrote: > > So...if a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf exists, does nouveau use it? If not, > how does one force its use? the xorg.conf is used if it exists, and what's in it is used to overwrite what is detected automatically. Example, if you want to install nvidia driver, then you have to list the nvidia driver in the config. Same as if you have a different type monitor setup, or mode lines or whatever, just add the parts you want to change in the .conf file and that should work. I beleive the system is setup to look for an xorg.conf file first, use what is in it, then auto detect everything else. Someone can correct me if I am off base here. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Nouveau driver with nvidia dual head
On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 08:20 -0500, Kirk Lowery wrote: > Well, I tried this conf and it worked -- exactly as without an > xorg.conf: everything about dual head works except for the background > stretch. > > I guess I'm going to have to get in touch with the LiveCD developers, > and find out who does the nouveau stuff for it; either that or the > nouveau IRC. xorg.conf file isn't used because the system is setup so that everything (if possible)is detected automatically and setup/used depending on what it finds (via some type of id that is used on various cards/monitors). There are the exceptions I guess with dual monitors and certain setups that normal users probably wouldn't encounter, as well as maybe certain laptop setups. I would say those type things might have to have an xorg.conf file to get into more detail to get those type situations working as they are suppose to. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is 2.6.32?
Paulo Cavalcanti gmail.com> writes: > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-December/msg01138.html-- Paulo Roma CavalcantiLCG - UFRJ > Ahh - thank you - there is usually a good reason for these things... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: list server got slower ?
Mail Lists sapience.com> writes: > > On 12/28/2009 02:46 PM, Sam Sharpe wrote: > > Good points ... > All very well - but the fact remains that for a user like me the list is the primary method of discussion about Fedora issues, fixes, workarounds etc. and I would like to see a timely server response - certainly it did not used to be like this with slow response. Maybe when the lists move to their new servers around 9th January 2010 then perhaps the servers will be tuned to deal with posts in a timely fashion? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Where is 2.6.32?
Mail Lists sapience.com> writes: > > On 12/29/2009 07:54 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote: > > How come Fedora is still on 2.6.31? Is .32 held back on purpose or are > > there issues merging it? > > It took less than a week for .31.9 to be pushed through... but I don't > > see .32 in updates-testing and it's been almost a whole month... > > > > Its not even in Koji ... unfortunately .. tho you may want to post > this in fedora-dev or fedora-test rather than the "Community assistance, > encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. list ... > It looks like the kernel guys have been on a Christmas break - there are no kernel builds at all in koji since the 24th maybe they will return with replenished New Year vigour and push out .32 for f11 and f12 before we can blink an eye! (Well we can hope anyway!) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: list server got slower ?
Mail Lists wrote: As of a few weeks ago, posting to this list got the post back in my mailbox in a few minutes. Now I am seeing delays. I spot checked a couple of posts (1 mine 1 someone else via yahoo) - the 2 machines that take the longest to pass messages through are: lists01.pubmisc.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com ---> 2 mins mx01.util.phx2.redhat.com ---> 7-10 mins I noticed it, too. One of the last servers in the chain took 26 minutes to pass on an email I posted back on the 22nd. It's been slowly improving since then. I wonder if it's related to the mailserver changeover? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Epylog warnings
Anyone else see this when cron.daily is run? /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/epylog/publishers.py:268: DeprecationWarning: the MimeWriter module is deprecated; use the email package instead import StringIO, MimeWriter https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=550802 -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: User image for "About me" in taskbar in f12?
Richard Shaw gmail.com> writes: > > So what next to look at? > > Have you checked the permissions of the .face file? > -rw-r--r--. mike mike unconfined_u:object_r:user_home_t:s0 .face What next? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How many people need to use the proprietary nvidia driver ? (Or other non kms driver ?)
On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 07:28 -0700, Greg Woods wrote: > > I use the proprietary Nvidia driver on two different workstations under > F12, one at home and one at work, for two different reasons. At home, I > have a MythTV server and my desktop is a front end, so I need VDPAU. I > also have some 3D games, so I need 3D. Neither of those is supported by > nouveau. I have no display-related problems with this machine. I have > another machine that is mostly a server that uses the same relatively > new Dell monitor, and so I just use nouveau on that machine (don't need > 3D or VDPAU). It happily does full HD resolution without problems. Do/did you notice that your screen appeared a tad bigger once you went to the propr. driver? As in, your fonts (evolution as example) appear smaller than before? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: User image for "About me" in taskbar in f12?
Tim-163 wrote: > > > And are the directory permissions world executable, too? > > NB: I'm just making educated assumptions about the permissions, as I > haven't looked at the newer Fedora release yet, and read about this kind > of issue some time ago. I elected not to bother with faces in the > chooser, as I want user spaces with only personal access. > > World executable - yes already are So what next to look at? -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/User-image-for-%22About-me%22-in-taskbar-in-f12--tp26906646p26919859.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: A survey
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Hiisi wrote: > 1. Are you left-handed? yes > 2. Do you use mouse with left hand? sometimes > 3. How to configure in F12 (Gnome) mouse pointer to be > left-handed-mouse oriented (I mean how to mirror mouse pointer)? Like Frank, I use my middle finger to left click when using a mouse left-handed. I do this because I often use computers that others also use. Being used to using the left mouse button for left clicking enables me to just move the mouse, and be comfortable without having to reconfigure anything (and no risk of forgetting to put it back when I'm done). Mike -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: User image for "About me" in taskbar in f12?
Tim-163 wrote: > > > In the past, and it may be your problem now, that issue has arose when > the user pictures are stored in their own directories, and their > homespace has permissions that doesn't allow access to other users, > likewise for child directories and the image file, itself. For GDM (and > most probably KDM, too), it's a special user that runs the login screen. > > All the image files and the directories that hold them have read permission for everybody - what else needs to be changed? -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/User-image-for-%22About-me%22-in-taskbar-in-f12--tp26906646p26914310.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
User image for "About me" in taskbar in f12?
I have more than one machine running f12 - I use the gnome desktop with kdm as the login manager. The machines run fine with one small slight irritation - on the taskbar as has been usual in gnome it is possible to select an image when you right click the username and click the image at the top left of the window that opens. However this image is not seen when you close the personal details window. Also the same avatar should appear in the kdm greeter screen alongside the username to select to login - but in f12 it does not appear to do so. In f11 with the same process I do get the image displayed on the taskbar next to the username in gnome, and also in the kdm greeter screen. In my f12 machines although the image looks just fine within the personal details window, it does not appear on the taskbar or in the kdm greeter. Does anyone else see this ? Was there a policy change that is in place for f12? Am I doing something dumb and if so what should I do to get the behaviour that I would like for this? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: What is the smallest device that will run Fedora 12 ? Evolution ? Kontact ?
On 12/23/2009 11:53 AM, Linuxguy123 wrote: How else could one run apps like Evolution and Contact on a small device ? Could they be made to run on a Symbian device ? What about Android ? You might want to check out Davmail: http://davmail.sourceforge.net/ It will talk to Microsoft's web based mail/scheduler and proxy it as more standard protocols. Then your small device only needs to talk those standard protocols to interact. It would mean that you would have to have tomcat or something installed on an internet accessible host, but that seems easier than figuring out how to get evolution onto symbian or android. Woogie -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Firefox not working after on line updates
> | > On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 16:31 -0600, Brian Wood wrote: > | >> I downloaded/built/installed a new version of sqlite, but that hasn't > | >> helped. Sounds like the same problem I encountered ( https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520339 ). For the time being, you can revert to the older version like so: sudo rpm -e --nodeps firefox xulrunner && sudo yum install -y --disablerepo=updates firefox xulrunner ...note you'll be running Firefox w/o the latest updates, but some people need Firebug (like me). -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: howto change Firefox's default print options
Rick Stevens wrote: On 12/22/2009 01:42 PM, Mike Wright wrote: Rick Stevens wrote: On 12/22/2009 11:32 AM, Mike Wright wrote: Hi all, I need help with the default printing options in Firefox. It has a very annoying "feature" when trying to print: it insists on providing me with preselected headers and footers. I believe the things you're looking for are in about:config. Look for "print.printer_(printer_name).(attribute). The attributes are: print_footercenter print_footerleft print_footerright print_headercenter print_headerleft print_headerright Thanks, Rick. Those are the ones I mucked with. No cigar though. Any changes made there cause the status to change temporarily from default to user_defined. After printing the current document they revert back to default. My mistake. There are multiples of those. I'd discovered the transient ones and made my changes there where, surprise, they didn't stick. , much better now... -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: howto change Firefox's default print options
Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: On Tue, 2009-12-22 at 13:42 -0800, Mike Wright wrote: Rick Stevens wrote: On 12/22/2009 11:32 AM, Mike Wright wrote: Hi all, I need help with the default printing options in Firefox. It has a very annoying "feature" when trying to print: it insists on providing me with preselected headers and footers. I believe the things you're looking for are in about:config. Look for "print.printer_(printer_name).(attribute). The attributes are: print_footercenter print_footerleft print_footerright print_headercenter print_headerleft print_headerright Thanks, Rick. Those are the ones I mucked with. No cigar though. Any changes made there cause the status to change temporarily from default to user_defined. After printing the current document they revert back to default. You've probably tried this, but just in case you haven't... :-) File -> Print... -> Options tab -> Header and Footer There are two rows of three pull-down option menu boxes that correspond to the six about:config options you already found. You can set any or all to --blank--. Any changes you make should be written to the ~/.mozilla/firefox/.default/prefs.js file when you exit Firefox. It should be owned by . and its access permissions should be 755. Unfortunately, there are only two ways out of the print box: print and cancel. Thanks, anyway HTH --Doc Savage Fairview Heights, IL -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: howto change Firefox's default print options
Rick Stevens wrote: On 12/22/2009 11:32 AM, Mike Wright wrote: Hi all, I need help with the default printing options in Firefox. It has a very annoying "feature" when trying to print: it insists on providing me with preselected headers and footers. I believe the things you're looking for are in about:config. Look for "print.printer_(printer_name).(attribute). The attributes are: print_footercenter print_footerleft print_footerright print_headercenter print_headerleft print_headerright Thanks, Rick. Those are the ones I mucked with. No cigar though. Any changes made there cause the status to change temporarily from default to user_defined. After printing the current document they revert back to default. It appears that there is no way to modify the default behavior and that the only way to get rid of that idiocy is to compile the browser oneself? IMO it makes a lot more sense from a usability perspective to click once to enable something desired than to have to click seven times to disable something undesired. I always felt that Mozilla/Firefox was the standard to which others should aspire but I fear that I may be seeing signs of pig lipstick... :m) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
OT: howto change Firefox's default print options
Hi all, I need help with the default printing options in Firefox. It has a very annoying "feature" when trying to print: it insists on providing me with preselected headers and footers. Page defaults can only be set after selecting "Print". Go to tab Options and then manually deselect the four preset header and footer options. That boils down to seven mouse clicks, *per document*, just to get rid of something I never asked for and don't want. What "usability" genius thought that one up? (Are we sure we haven't been invaded by M$ moles?) I've tried making changes in about:config but have no idea what I'm looking for. The probable looking things I've changed seem to have no effect. If anybody knows how to do this I'd love to learn it from you. Thanks for your help, Mike Wright -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: asus eee pc 1101HA: memtest error
On 12/21/2009 06:03 PM, Colin Brace wrote: Mike, The Poulbos driver has also been an amazing source of frustration for me; moreover, you've gotten further than I have. Since acquiring this netbook around two months ago, I have been scouring the net looking for a solution all in vain. I've posted it about in the comment section of Adam Williamson's blog: ... I wonder if your 2 problems aren't related. If you do have bad memory, it could be that the poulbos driver is particularly good at triggering problems. It might explain why you can't get it working when someone else with the same model is working fine. Of course there are about 1000 other plausible explanations too. Woogie -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 - Firefox (firefox-3.5.6-1.fc12) SQLite Version Error [NICER WORKAROUND]
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 12:39 AM, Mike Park wrote: > Sorry, I'd try and narrow down the culprit, but > this problem basically cost me a day of work and I'm short on time > right now. I'll revisit this and update back if I can narrow down the > real problem later. Ok, so I found a little more time to focus on this... It turns out to be just these two packages: firefox xulrunner ...that cause the problem (well, for me, anyways). I've reverted the following packages to the original repo versions: # rpm -e --nodeps firefox xulrunner # yum install --disablerepo=updates firefox xulrunner ...and that works. No more guess-work about which other packages might be causing it. So in summary, these versions work: firefox-3.5.4-1.fc12.x86_64 xulrunner-1.9.1.4-1.fc12.x86_64 ...and updating them to the following reproduces the problem: firefox-3.5.6-1.fc12.x86_64 xulrunner-1.9.1.6-1.fc12.x86_64 --Mike -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 - Firefox (firefox-3.5.6-1.fc12) SQLite Version Error [WORKAROUND]
(My apologies for the random snips, up until just this afternoon I had the Fedora mailing list coming in in archive format, which doesn't really lend itself well to replying and keeping the message threading). > > I must be one of the very few people this has happened to, as Google > > appears to have only pointed me at 'Bug 520339' ( > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520339 ). > Have you tried starting firefox from the command line with -safe-mode selected? Yes, I have, same result. For the time being, I've basically reverted -all- software package updates from 2009-12-18 forward by basically doing a: $ rpm -qa --last > list-file and then saving a subset of those packages listed newer than 2009-12-18... later doing a: $ cat list-file | xargs echo | xargs sudo rpm -e --nodeps ...to remove them. Then I disabled all repos other than the original fedora repo when reinstalling them, finally doing a: $ cat list-file | xargs echo | xargs sudo yum install -y ...which at least got firefox back to run-able state (whew). Here are the versions from that previous package query, in case anyone's interestd (although I'm guessing the real problem lies elsewhere). $ rpm -qa \*xulrunner\* \*firefox\* \*sqlite\* qt-sqlite-4.6.0-1.fc12.x86_64 xulrunner-1.9.1.4-1.fc12.x86_64 mono-data-sqlite-2.4.2.3-2.fc12.x86_64 sqlite-3.6.20-1.fc12.x86_64 firefox-3.5.4-1.fc12.x86_64 Finally, attached is the list of packages that were removed/reinstalled. Sorry, I'd try and narrow down the culprit, but this problem basically cost me a day of work and I'm short on time right now. I'll revisit this and update back if I can narrow down the real problem later. --Mike list-file Description: Binary data -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F12 - Firefox (firefox-3.5.6-1.fc12) SQLite Version Error
Hi there, I must be one of the very few people this has happened to, as Google appears to have only pointed me at 'Bug 520339' ( https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520339 ). Has anyone else experienced behavior like this with Firefox? It seems my SQLite is up to date, so I'm wondering if there's a config setting somewhere that needs to be corrected? It's weird, this happened recently after an update maybe sometime last week? I'm still in the process of trying to track down exactly which batch of updates did it, but for now, Firefox won't start up. Package version info below: $ rpm -qa \*xulrunner\* \*firefox\* \*sqlite\* firefox-3.5.6-1.fc12.x86_64 qt-sqlite-4.6.0-1.fc12.x86_64 xulrunner-1.9.1.6-1.fc12.x86_64 mono-data-sqlite-2.4.2.3-2.fc12.x86_64 sqlite-3.6.20-1.fc12.x86_64 $ uname -r 2.6.31.6-166.fc12.x86_64 --Mike -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: asus eee pc 1101HA: memtest error
On 12/21/2009 02:16 PM, Colin Brace wrote:
Hi all,
I installed F12 on an Asus Eee 1101HA. Apart from the Intel GMA 500
("Poulbos") video driver, I have gotten most things working, but I am
troubled by frequent system freezes, sometimes literally within minutes of
booting.
I can't really help with your memory issue, but unless you plan on
coding your own X driver, you will probably want to stick to F11 since
it has a functioning Poulbos driver available from RPM Fusion:
http://www.happyassassin.net/2009/08/10/intel-gma500-poulsbo-on-fedora-11-repository-with-working-3d-compiz-support/
It's been working great for me on an Acer A0751h-1401. I'm cannot tell
you how frustrated with Intel I am over the GMA-500. It used to be that
video was the one thing I never worried about when purchasing a new
Linux system: I'd just look for Intel and I'd be fine. I understand
that Intel has a lot of moving parts internally, so this is no one
person's call, but the difference between being able to count on them
all the time and being able to count on them almost all the time is
immense, and I can't believe they have bungled this so badly so far.
Anyway, if anyone has any concrete information about people (Intel or
otherwise) working on an open driver for this chipset, I'd love know
about it. I'd contribute however I can.
Woogie
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Re: chromium from spot crashes
Neal Becker wrote: > > Since today's update to > chromium-4.0.273.0-0.1.20091216svn34775.fc12.x86_64 > > chromium-browser crashes on every startup. Where to report? > > I found I had an SElinux issue but as root I did: chcon -t textrel_shlib_t /usr/lib/chromium-browser/*.so then restarting chromium and it worked OK... -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/chromium-from-spot-crashes-tp26877877p26879120.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Saving Tbird e-mail files? -
Mike Cloaked wrote: > > > This is not directly related to the dovecot imap server that you will have > set up on your own machine. You can get Thunderbird to (separately) > connect to you own imap server if you set up a "local" imap account > pointing to 127.0.0.1 and have the dovecot service running locally (i.e. > make sure that as root "dovecot service start", and "chkconfig dovecot on" > to start it at boot - and check that the service is running by "service > dovecot status") > > Sorry there was a typo in the above should have been "service dovecot start" and not "dovecot service start" !! -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Saving-Tbird-e-mail-filestp26835345p26859026.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Saving Tbird e-mail files? -
Bob Goodwin-3 wrote: > > > Ok, I've installed Dovecot, made some changes to the config. file > and started it. Then told gmail I wanted to "enable" IMAP. Although > I have a "wildblue" address they gave up their mail servers and > shunted everyone over to google! Not the best deal for users perhaps > but I had no choice. Rural users are stuck without CATV or Telco DSL > internet service so the satellite providers have no competition. > > Anyway now that I've done this the system is dumping everything it > has on me, presently 4091 trash files! Hopefully that is all, > probably ~7k messages in total. > > I still don't understand how this works but I will in pretty short > order I guess? Where are these messages being saved? On my F-12 > computer somewhere in Dovecot I hope. > > What do I have to configure in another computer to access the IMAP > messages? Do I simply add an IMAP user to Thunderbird, the email > program I have been using for some time. If the messages are stored > in my computer, other computers need to look there and connect via > my LAN [wired and wireless]. I'm already in over my head despite > reading a lot of instructions on how to set this up!. > > Any help is appreciated. > > When you told gmail that you want to access it via imap then you presumably set up an imap gmail account in Thunderbird? What this then will do is to get the mail client (Thunderbird) to access gmail via the imap server held at gmail. This is not directly related to the dovecot imap server that you will have set up on your own machine. You can get Thunderbird to (separately) connect to you own imap server if you set up a "local" imap account pointing to 127.0.0.1 and have the dovecot service running locally (i.e. make sure that as root "dovecot service start", and "chkconfig dovecot on" to start it at boot - and check that the service is running by "service dovecot status") Now when you start Thunderbird with both the gmail imap account as well as the local imap account defined within Thunderbird then you will see two sets of mail but at this stage the only mail that you will see populated is the gmail account. i.e. Thunderbird as email client, is making connections to two independent imap servers - one at gmail and the other in your local machine. If you wish you can then copy mail from the gmail server to your own dovecot server, either manually or by setting up local filter rules within Thunderbird. You can set rules up to make copies of all mail at gmail onto your local imap server from within Thunderbird so that each time Thunderbird checks for new mail at gmail it will copy to your local server. You configure the rules in which ever way is most convenient for you. However once this is all done then you can start a different mail client (such as Evolution for example) and set up a local imap account which will then see any email that is already stored (and handled) by dovecot locally. You can of course also set it up to look at gmail and transfer files to the local imap if you wish - and then run either mail client whenever you feel like it, and use the best facilities of the one you are running at any time. So re-capping: 1) Set up local imap server - dovecot. 2) Set up email client eg Thunderbird and/or Evolution and/or kmail etc with each email client having an account pointing to any mail servers where you have email - one account may be gmail, another your local dovecot imap, and you may have a yahoo account or others as well 3) Set up filter rules to copy mail from one or other of these servers to any of the others - each "account" set up in an email client points to a different server. One possible use is when your isp runs only a pop3 mail server - you can get your Thunderbird to connect to that but then to copy mail from that server to your local server and then any other mail client can see the same emails by pointing them to the local dovecot imap server. I hope this helps -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Saving-Tbird-e-mail-filestp26835345p26859000.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Bind Problem in Fedora 12
Tim, Are you referring to "It's not a Bug, it's a Feature"? If so I fully agree. Tim wrote: On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 09:51 -0700, Mike Dwiggins wrote: Then again the parsing could work better on F 12 and it's catching more mistakes. Mistakes should be fixed, not glossed over. That would indeed be Deja vu from the days when I was coming over from Windoze. Glossing over mistakes is the Windows way. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Bind Problem in Fedora 12
I will have to check but, I copied the file from a working machine. Then again the parsing could work better on F 12 and it's catching more mistakes. That would indeed be Deja vu from the days when I was coming over from Windoze. Mike Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Mike Dwiggins writes: I lost a portion of a motherboard on a Fedora 11 server and decided to build up the replacement in Fedora 12. I was still able to access the old system and as the both announce that they are running Bind 9.6.1 I just copied over all of my config file. The Fedora 12 machine is rejecting everything in /etc/pki/dnssec-keys as "Unknown Option. Anyone have any ideas on this? Deja vu. Might it be an editing error such as this? http://www.mail-archive.com/fedora-list@redhat.com/msg58248.html -wolfgang -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
flash-plugin update and f11
Recently there was a flash-plugin update available to flash-plugin-10.0.42.34-release.i386 After updating I noticed that Firefox was showing the new version as well as the old version in Tools-Add-ons and selecting the plugins tab. I initially disabled the old version but then found that Youtube and other videos would not play in Firefox. After a lot of messing about I found a workaround - yum remove nspluginwrapper flash-plugin followed by yum install nspluginwrapper flash-plugin Now I only see one version of the flash-plugin in the plugins tab, and also about:plugins only shows a single version of shockwave flash with the info: File name: nswrapper_32_32.libflashplayer.so Shockwave Flash 10.0 r42 So this appears to work - presumably similar workarounds may be needed for f12? Analogous for 64 bit also I guess? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Bind Problem in Fedora 12
I lost a portion of a motherboard on a Fedora 11 server and decided to build up the replacement in Fedora 12. I was still able to access the old system and as the both announce that they are running Bind 9.6.1 I just copied over all of my config file. The Fedora 12 machine is rejecting everything in /etc/pki/dnssec-keys as "Unknown Option. Anyone have any ideas on this? Thanks -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: mirrors.fedoraproject.org problem?
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, Kevin Martin wrote: > > > Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Kevin Martin > > wrote: > > > >> Is there a problem right now with mirrors.fedoraproject.org? I can't > >> access any mirrors. > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> Kevin > >> > > > > same problem for me, I have created a ipv6 tunnel and worked fine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can't get to the page either via yum or via the browser. However, I > can connect to other websites with no problem. Very strange. > what do you get for: dig mirrors.fedoraproject.org -Mike -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
GTK print dialog not showing printers
Hi all, On my Fedora 11 box GNOME apps using the GTK print dialog box don't show any of the configured printers, only the print to file option. However, OpenOffice using its own print dialog box displays and successfully prints to my printer. Printing also works successfully from the command line using lpr. [r...@rockover ~]# rpm -qa | fgrep cups cups-1.4.2-7.fc11.i586 libgnomecups-0.2.3-6.fc11.i586 cups-libs-1.4.2-7.fc11.i586 hal-cups-utils-0.6.19-2.fc11.i586 In case it matters I had to switch from runlevel 5 to 3 and run my GNOME session under VNC server instead. Thanks, Mike -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Install on new computer keeping OEM OS
On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 10:38 -0800, Alan Evans wrote: > Hello! > > I just got a brand-new machine with Windows 7 pre-installed on its > massive hard drive. Of course, Fedora is more my style, but I'd like > to keep the original OS intact and dual boot. > > My question is this then: How safe is it really to allow the installer > to resize the existing partition with Win7 already there? I saw that > it had the option, but I was terrified to try it. > > At this point, I've never booted the OEM hard drive. I just > immediately plugged in the drive from my previous computer and booted > F11 to check for basic hardware compatibility, so the machine's drive > is yet-untouched. Why not just install F12 on the *other* HD and leave the OEM one as is? Least then if you have to reinstall Win7/restore it won't destroy anything else. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Someone was able to hack my mail account
Peter Boy wrote: > > Am Freitag, den 11.12.2009, 05:50 -0500 schrieb kevin: >> I am just glad the spammer sent the mail to me and not a million people. > > The spammer propably will have sent the spam to million people (your > address is just one of those), using your address as sender but sending > it from various bot neted computers. In this case you will get all the > bounced mails a target system sends to the perceived sender (you). > > Now wouldn't it be nice if DKIM filters were in widespread use - then this kind of problem would be a thing of the past! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Someone-was-able-to-hack-my-mail-account-tp4148043p4150756.html Sent from the fedora mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: FlashPlayer-X86_64 Download
On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 21:00 -0700, Petrus de Calguarium wrote: > Reuben D. Budiardja wrote: > > > I just dropped the libflashplayer.so file to the plugins directory in my > > Firefox > > profile to make it work: ~/.mozilla/firefox//plugins > > Better to install nspluginwrapper on 64-bit system, too. Then move > libflashplayer.so > into /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins and run, as root, mozilla-plugin-config -i. > It > probably needs to be rerun every time you update libflashplayer.so via a tar > file. > Not sure if you need to rerun when installing via rpm, once that finally > becomes > available. You don't have to use nspluginwrapper as there are 64bit flash plugins available now. Just download it from adobe and stick it in the dir you mentioned above and your all set. Side Note: If your gonna use the newly created beta (10.1?) then you would have to use nspluginwrapper as there is only 32 bit available. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problem with thunderbird message filters
Joachim Backes wrote: > > Hi, > I'm running the actual thunderbird (thunderbird-3.0b4) on F12. > > Having two accounts (1 IMAP, I POP), and I want to move all incoming > emails for account-#2 (POP) to the IMAP-Inbox. So I made a filter with > one entry: "Match all messages" as search criteria, and "move to > IMAP-Inbox" as action. > > But this filter seems not to run, and when opening the error console > window, I find a lot of messages: > > I had a lot of issues with b4 - so I installed the nightly version from the tarball and ran that instead. Things are a lot smoother now - 3.0.1pre nightly works generally very well - provided you can configure things the way you want (I turned off GLODA and got rid of smart folders and then things improved) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Problem-with-thunderbird-message-filters-tp4139023p4139512.html Sent from the fedora mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F12 Wireless disabled with kernel 2.6.31.6-162
John W. Linville-2 wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 09:32:01PM -0800, Richard England wrote: >> pro/wireless 2200BG in a Dell Latitude D410. F12 Fully updated (as of 7 >> December). >> >> With Kernel 2.6.31.6-162.fc12.i686 the wireless is completely >> disabled. This was the latest kernel installed. >> >> Backing down to kernel 2.6.31.6-145.fc12.i686 everything returns to >> normal. This was the immediately preceding kernel I had. >> >> Any one confirm this? I looked for a BZ entry but I'm notoriously bad >> at finding things there > > I'm running F12 on an T41 equipped with ipw2200. Perhaps you could > describe the problem more thoroughly (and/or open a bugzilla entry)? > > I have iwl4965 running fine with the same kernel in a Dell M4300 - -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/F12-Wireless-disabled-with-kernel-2.6.31.6-162-tp26688966p26695103.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT M.I.T. TED new way of I/O
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Mike Wright wrote: Mick M. wrote: Whoa check this video out: http://www.snotr.com/video/3471 same but 3rd person: http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/pattie_maes_demos_the_sixth_sense.html Thanks for posting those links. I would have never found them myself. It was all over the technical sites at the time, not to mention ted.com of course. Practically anything related to computing technology is going to be of interest to at least some members of this list. That isn' t enough reason to post it here IMHO. Even though it may have been OT wrt Fedora, it does show that the open source paradigm is alive and gaining ground (imho). How so? The presentation doesn't so much as mention open source. Besides which, this is not in fact a discussion list about open source as such. It's a list about Fedora. This is in the list headers: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." To me "encouragement" implies that there will be a future full of users of various needs and wants that should be welcomed to try to make whatever it is work for them. Who knows what new branch may grow because of some OT questioner that happens to be a Fedoran explorer? Hope it's Friday where you're at. If I ever meet you the next pint is on me. :m) poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT M.I.T. TED new way of I/O
Mick M. wrote: Whoa check this video out: http://www.snotr.com/video/3471 same but 3rd person: http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/pattie_maes_demos_the_sixth_sense.html Thanks for posting those links. I would have never found them myself. Even though it may have been OT wrt Fedora, it does show that the open source paradigm is alive and gaining ground (imho). Also considering that Fedora already has non-proprietary mouse and webcam support it would be really nice to see this included (someday). Mike Wright -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Problem wih Installation
On Sun, 2009-11-29 at 01:55 -0800, Mahmoud Abou-Eita wrote: > Hello there, > I've downloaded Fedora(x86_64) via BitTorrent. > I'm running windows 7 on my machine. I have a folder containing 5 iso > cds, > a checksum file, and netinst! > what to burn to a DVD to be able to boot from! > Basically, my computer is a core 2 DUO 32-bit. > Is this the appropriate version that I installed? 1 - Well, if you want to just use one cd/dvd then you need to download the dvd.iso. 2 - Now you need to turn those iso files to cd/dvd. If you want to use the cd's, then you have to burn *each one* (as an image) to a cd. If you want to use just one dvd, then burnt he dvd.iso (as an image) to the dvd. 3 - Once you have those/that burned, just insert the dvd, or first cd into the cdrom and reboot and away you go. Side Note: You don't need the netinst file unless your going to do a network type install, regarding http/ftp (these over internet) or nfs (over local network). -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Setting up a VM to run XP in an up-to-date F12 box?
Hiisi wrote: > > 2009/11/28 Paul Smith : >> On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Hiisi wrote: > <--SNIP--> >>> Can you, virtualisation gurus, point me out how to set up shared >>> folder in VirtualBox for guest Window$ XP? It looks like an easy task >>> but I'm unable to see it anywhere from within guest system. >> >> You just need to install Guest Additions: > > Interesting replies - thank you - but noticeable that the fedora provided facility of kvm has been mentioned by no-one! Additionally can you experts tell me whether you can use usbkeys in the VM, and also whether or not there is communication out of the VM onto the network interface? Another point I am interested in is whether it is possible to drop a file using the desktop file manager gui from Fedora into the XP VM window and open the file in an app within the XP VM? I am thinking of, for example, taking a Word file and dropping it into the XP VM so that it opens in Word 2003, say, and has the full Windows edit facilities. Or similar for an excel file and have it utilise the Solver macro, or Analysis package within the XP environment - so that if someone sends such a file in email then you can get it from the email attachment in Fedora to the running application in the VM in an easy way? I'd like to know what the limits are for using the VM before going down the road of setting it all up. Additionally if anyone has used kvm how does qemu feature in this scheme - is it needed at all for running an XP VM? I can see that VirtualBox is recommended by people who have used it but I would like to be able to compare VirtualBox with KVM in terms of not only ease of setting up, but also performance and usability once it is set up. Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Setting-up-a-VM-to-run-XP-in-an-up-to-date-F12-box--tp26552338p26553771.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Setting up a VM to run XP in an up-to-date F12 box?
Can someone point me to a good step by step howto to set up Windows XP installed from an iso in a VM in F12 using kvm. There are some XP applications that only work in XP itself rather than in wine or Crossover. I have not tinkered with virtualised machines before so this is a learning curve for me. I did see the http://docs.fedoraproject.org/ guide on virtualization but there seems to be quite a number of changes in the details of what is presented on screen when starting to install a new VM on my screen compared to what is in the guide. The laptop in which I want to do this does have the virtualisation flags so in principle it should be possible. It is not clear where the virtualised machine would get installed by default - but it looks like it would be in /var/lib/libvirt/images which is on the root partition in my case so I made a new directory in a bigger partition with plenty of space, and bind mounted it ahead of trying to create a new VM. Thanks in advance. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Is F12 ready to upgrade ? Is it worth it ?
Tim-163 wrote: > > > We had the smolt thing that sends a hardware report off to a database. > There's a certain presumption that regular monthly updates by your > client indicates that your hardware does actually work. > > See: http://smolt.fedoraproject.org/ (and don't forget to have a look > at the various statistics). > > Indeed and a minute ago I notice that currently the OS page shows F11 50.7% and F12 11.6% - I wonder if the ratio of F12 to F11 users will change markedly over the next month? -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Is-F12-ready-to-upgradeIs-it-worth-it---tp26515536p26545376.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
f12 user pics in gnome and kdm?
Running kdm as the login manager, and gnome as the desktop - I have changed my userpic under preferences in gnome and the image fails to show up next to my username in the desktop. Similarly after logging in to kde and going to the login manager settings and adding a userpic to my username - no picture appears next to me username in the kdm greeter in f12. Both these work fine in f11 - can anyone point me to a workaround? Thanks -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/f12-user-pics-in-gnome-and-kdm--tp26520320p26520320.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: building dvd
2009/11/25 François Patte : > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Le 25/11/2009 04:20, Mike Martin a écrit : >> 2009/11/24 Bill Davidsen : >>> Rajan, S. (Sanya) wrote: >>>> Hi François, >>>> >>>> You could try using Tovid: http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Tovid_Wiki >>>> It can convert almost any video format and create a DVD from them. > > OK. I could try tovid... The only problem from install is that the > permissions are for root only, so a simple user cannot use it!!! > > It took me some times to understand that. > > BTW I could not do anything with tovid. It is a nice program which does > nothing, so, no problem, and no solution. > >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com >>>> [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of François Patte >>>> Sent: 24 November 2009 04:00 PM >>>> To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. >>>> Subject: building dvd >>>> >>>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>>> Hash: SHA1 >>>> >>>> Bonjour, >>>> >>>> I use kaffeine to record TV programs. >>>> >>>> These programs are m2t encoded and I want to be able to burn dvd >>>> readable on my dvd machine in my living room. >>>> >>>> I found devede which seems to be able to do some conversion. But I want >>>> to transfer on the dvd all information from the m2t file: all audio >>>> tracks and subtitles in order to be able to choose my preferred version: >>>> french version or original version with subtitles. >>>> >>>> >>>> What are the soft which can do this, under fedora 10. >>>> >>> Bad news, FC10 is going unsupported in days. >>> >>> Good news, dvdstyler is available for FC10 now, I don't remember if I got >>> mine for a Fedora repository or elsewhere. It will want a bunch of stuff you >>> should have anyway. I've been using it since Oct 6 2006 (install date on my >>> oldest machine still up), and have used it up through FC11 without problems. > > I tried it. Seems to be able to make nice menu for a dvd, but not a dvd. > > >>> >>> Recommended. > > If it is, User guide is missing! > >>> >>> -- >>> fedora-list mailing list >>> fedora-list@redhat.com >>> To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list >>> Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines >>> >> You may want to have a look at my app - >> http://sourceforge.net/projects/burn360/ >> >> It does have a totally different approach to most similar programs and >> is a perl-gtk2 app. >> >> Basically it is a frontend to ffmpeg (transcoding), dvdauthor (for >> ripping and creation of dvds) >> >> I initially wrote it because of similar problems >> >> It has a fairly simple list of dependencies which are detailed in the README >> > > I tried it too. But without any success. > > > What I want: to convert a file m2t with films, audio tracks (at least 2: > original version, and other language version(s) and subtitles (at least > 2 tracks). > > Every attempt to "transcode" destroys the sound and subtitles tracks: I > get only 1 audio track and no subtitles. > > > Is there any software able to preserve anything? > > Even if I have to extract the sound and subtitles tracks (how?) and > remix them with the new encoding. > > Thanks for attention. > > - -- > François Patte > UFR de mathématiques et informatique > Université Paris Descartes > 45, rue des Saints Pères > F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 > Tél. +33 (0)1 4286 2145 > http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAksNQusACgkQdE6C2dhV2JVSTgCgy+gIv1VsFfmaw5X48iG/WH2K > aH8AoIq+QnP0AAxoRPuxfPPyaP2rR3GH > =CRof > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > never been interested in subtitles - have alook at adding it -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: building dvd
2009/11/24 Bill Davidsen : > Rajan, S. (Sanya) wrote: >> >> Hi François, >> >> You could try using Tovid: http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Tovid_Wiki >> It can convert almost any video format and create a DVD from them. >> >> Regards, >> >> Sanya Rajan >> >> -Original Message- >> From: fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com >> [mailto:fedora-list-boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of François Patte >> Sent: 24 November 2009 04:00 PM >> To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora. >> Subject: building dvd >> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Bonjour, >> >> I use kaffeine to record TV programs. >> >> These programs are m2t encoded and I want to be able to burn dvd >> readable on my dvd machine in my living room. >> >> I found devede which seems to be able to do some conversion. But I want >> to transfer on the dvd all information from the m2t file: all audio >> tracks and subtitles in order to be able to choose my preferred version: >> french version or original version with subtitles. >> >> >> What are the soft which can do this, under fedora 10. >> > Bad news, FC10 is going unsupported in days. > > Good news, dvdstyler is available for FC10 now, I don't remember if I got > mine for a Fedora repository or elsewhere. It will want a bunch of stuff you > should have anyway. I've been using it since Oct 6 2006 (install date on my > oldest machine still up), and have used it up through FC11 without problems. > > Recommended. > > -- > Bill Davidsen > "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from > the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@redhat.com > To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines > You may want to have a look at my app - http://sourceforge.net/projects/burn360/ It does have a totally different approach to most similar programs and is a perl-gtk2 app. Basically it is a frontend to ffmpeg (transcoding), dvdauthor (for ripping and creation of dvds) I initially wrote it because of similar problems It has a fairly simple list of dependencies which are detailed in the README -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: screen background problem on F12
On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 21:19 -0500, fred smith wrote: > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 11:22:05AM -0500, fred smith wrote: > > Hi all! > > Anybody got any clues on this one? So far no one has replied. I've been > searching fedora forums and mailing lists, and gnome forums and mailing > lists and no solutions have turned up. > > it's rather a pain in the neck: > > I can set a wallpaper and it disappears (i.e., reverts to the system > default) as soon as I change desktops or log off/on. > > Never did that on F11, why is it doing it now, and more importantly, > what do I do about it? > Hi Fred, I just upgraded from FC11 to FC12 myself, and I don't have that problem unless the image I'm attempting to set is on a network drive. Is the image you're using on the local machine? Mike n...@att.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Problems with audio dropping
Is anyone else getting a problem with audio stopping after a few minutes of play? No matter what settings I try it stops between 1and 4 minutes I have reported it as bug 540751 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Setting upTwinview with CRT's
Can anyone point me to a tutorial guide to setting up Twinview with CRT TV and Monitor (17 inch) F12 nvidia drivers and 7600 Everything I have tried so far results in no display and going to single mode boot and original config -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Flashgot and Fedora 12
Anyone getting problems with this? I am not getting any errors but no flashgot icon is appearing on a clean install of F12 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: RPM Fusion free and nonfree repositories for Fedora 12 (Constantine) now available
Mike Cloaked wrote: > > > > Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> The RPM Fusion team is proud to announce the public availability of our >> ''free'' and ''nonfree'' package repositories for Fedora 12 >> (Constantine). The repositories contain multimedia applications, kernel >> drivers, games and other software the Fedora Project doesn't want to ship >> for various reasons. >> >> > > Is it just my inability to see the detail or are the kmod-nvidia drivers > not yet available? > I see that they are still in testing - http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/updates/testing/12/i386/ -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/RPM-Fusion-free-and-nonfree-repositories-for-Fedora-12-Constantine-now-available-tp4018854p4019410.html Sent from the fedora mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: RPM Fusion free and nonfree repositories for Fedora 12 (Constantine) now available
Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > The RPM Fusion team is proud to announce the public availability of our > ''free'' and ''nonfree'' package repositories for Fedora 12 (Constantine). > The repositories contain multimedia applications, kernel drivers, games > and other software the Fedora Project doesn't want to ship for various > reasons. > > Is it just my inability to see the detail or are the kmod-nvidia drivers not yet available? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/RPM-Fusion-free-and-nonfree-repositories-for-Fedora-12-Constantine-now-available-tp4018854p4019218.html Sent from the fedora mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: anyone install android 2.0 sdk on 64-bit fedora?
On 11/07/2009 12:26 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: On 10/27/2009 01:52 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: given the first release of android 2.0, has anyone out there successfully installed that on a 64-bit fedora? specifically, fedora 11 or (hopefully equivalently) fedora 12 beta. I have the emulator running. I have not compiled any applications yet though. Fedora 11 x86_64 machine. I do not have Sun Java installed. I've just used Fedora Eclipse to compile and run a Hello World in the emulator. 2 things: I had to enable more than the default update sites in Eclipse. I don't recall what the default actually is, but I have the following now: * Fedora Eclipse JDT * Fedora Eclipse SDK * Ganymede Update Site * The Eclipse Project Updates Configure the emulator for an SD card of at least 16 MB or you will get an inscrutable error trying to start it. Woogie -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Samsung CLX-3170 Scanner Setup
Jim sbcglobal.net> writes: > > FC11-X86_64/KDE. > > How do I setup a Samsung CLX-3170 Scanner in FC11 ? > > # sane-find-scanner > found USB scanner (vendor=0x04e8 [Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd.], > product=0x342a [CLX-3170 Series]) at libusb:002:002 > I found some advice on the web for my Samsung machine (not the same as yours but a corresponding approach may work) - Written up at http://userbase.kde.org/Troubleshooting/Samsung_scx-4500W#Scanning Just a chance this may help? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Cheap Acer notebook on Newegg: What wireless chip does it use?
On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 11:01 -0600, Richard Shaw wrote: > I found this laptop[1] for a GREAT price but I haven't been able to > find out what wireless chip it uses and I want to make sure it works > under F11/F12. I've tried acer.com but they don't list the chip. > Anyone have one or know where to find it? > > Thanks, > Richard > > [1] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834115654 Try this link, lists quite a few more details although it doesn't actaully list the *brand name* of the wireless chip. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.279137 If details are hidden, should be a link under the #2 (the laptop itself) that says "Show details" that you can click on. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Impossible to access boot menu
Mikkel infinity-ltd.com> writes: > Depending on the hardware, it may retaining settings during a > reboot, but not when you power off the machine, and then power it up > again. This can sometimes cause strange problems. This is especially > true when booting a different operating system with out powering off > the machine. > > There are also two ways to reboot a machine without powering it off. > The "warm" boot does not normally re-initialize the hardware. A > "cold" boot does run the initialization routines routines, but the > hardware may not be properly initialized. > > Mikkel Yes indeed - in my case it was a Logitech Cordless Mouse - I don't know if in this case changing BIOS settings would have helped - however even after a shutdown and power off, and then booting from scratch now gives mouse input that is properly recognised without the need to pull and replug the usb connector. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Impossible to access boot menu
Aioanei Rares gmail.com> writes: > Please explain what do you mean by 'different effect' and how is the hw > reset by rebooting vs cold boot > OK - when I first came across this problem - it was when I shutdown the machine i.e. to the point where the machine was powered off. a) then if I pushed the power button on the computer to boot it, then nothing I did would allow the mouse input to be recognised both at the kdm greeter, and if I then used keyboard input alone to log in, then also in the logged in gnome desktop the mouse was not recognised. b) However, if I then pulled out the usb plug for the mouse sender, and plugged it back in then the mouse input was recognised properly. c) If at that point I selected reboot from the logged in desktop, then after rebooting, the mouse would be recognised at both the kdm greeter screen and also at the logged in desktop. This reboot keeps the power on and the fans running during the shutdown and subsequent reboot. If at that point I shutdown and powered off. Then pushed the power button to start the machine then I would be back to a) above -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Impossible to access boot menu
Aioanei Rares gmail.com> writes: > It is often a good idea to reboot after important updates... > Of course and indeed I HAD rebooted after each set of updates - the difference is that if you power off and reboot then there is hardware resetting that is different to rebooting but leaving the power on! Today was the first time I shutdown AND powered off. Then started from cold. This has a different effect to simply asking for a re-boot but leaving the power running during the shutdown and subsequent re-boot. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Impossible to access boot menu
Aioanei Rares gmail.com> writes: > Less likely, better check your /var/log/messages file for something related. > Well I just switched off the machine in question and booted from a cold start. The problem that was there consistently in the past seems to have gone away. The mouse now gets recognised immediately that the kdm greeter starts. I presume that a fix was done in an update at some point - but due the problem being there I had only rebooted without powering off and back on for a month or two however certainly it was as I reported until a few weeks ago. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Impossible to access boot menu
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > > Marcel Rieux wrote: >> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Mikkel wrote: >>> Marcel Rieux wrote: Oh, oh! I had a USB keyboard when I installed but I now have a keyboard with a round plug. So, I tried to enable legacy support as Mikkel suggested, but I can't access the BIOS. >>> You do not need legacy support for the PS2 keyboard. (The round >>> plug.) Legacy support makes a USB keyboard look like a PS2 keyboard >>> to the system. The fact that you had a USB keyboard when you >>> installed should not make a difference. > > Here is an interesting problem that links with this thread. I have one machine that is around 6 years old on which I have f11 working perfectly well (previously it was f10 ) but one issue still remains. Plugged into a rear usb port is the sender for a radio mouse. The mouse has newish batteries and works fine with everything running and powered up. However if i power the machine off, and then restart the machine (Dell Dimension 2400 desktop) the screen is unresponsive to the mouse movement or buttons unless I unplug the radio sender that is plugged into the usb port, and reconnect it. Immediately the mouse then works as normal!! I seem to remember that this was the case when I installed f11 also - in that I booted the install media and the mouse failed to respond at the graphical install stage until I unplugged and replugged the radio sender. Is it likely that this is a BIOS setting issue as well? -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Impossible-to-access-boot-menu-tp26146789p26157095.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: two major failures after yesterday updates - RESOLVED
Ed Greshko wrote: > > >> hardly surprising at all...consumer grade SATA hard drives have become >> unreliable and that is why none of the manufacturer's warranties them >> beyond a year now. >> >> > Really? All of my Seagate drives that I purchase here in Taiwan have 3 > year warranties. > > Yeah - well guess which make I just put in? Seagate Barracuda - the old dead one was Samsung HD321KJ - so I can look forward to 3 years of reliable service minimum! Problem is that when you buy a new machine you don't have control over which make of drive is in it unless you know something I don't! -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/two-major-failures-after-yesterday-updates---anyone-else-tp26109441p26137810.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Why should a machine not boot liveCD if HD fails?
Ted Roche-2 wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Mike Cloaked > wrote: >> why would a computer with a failed SATA hard >> drive be unable to boot from a liveDVD in the optical drive? > > Perhaps the machine's BIOS was not configured to boot from the optical > drive. > > No - what I have done for a long time is set it to boot from HD but when starting the boot process, like many machines you can hit F12 and select which device to boot from - that is how I do many processes like partitioning etc In fact with no alteration in the BIOS settings at all - once the new HD was in place I interrupted the boot with F12 and selected the optical drive to start PartedMagic from the liveDVD - exactly this process worked once the new drive was in place where it failed to do so with the dead HD in place - that is something I never experienced before. Clearly whatever had failed in the drive did something really bad to the system so that booting from the other drive would not work - that was why it was such as nasty failure - and led me to believe that it was more than just a bad HD - maybe others have had something similar? Anyway f11 is now running on the machine in question and it is doing its long yum update as I write this... -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Why-should-a-machine-not-boot-liveCD-if-HD-fails--tp26137073p26137763.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Why should a machine not boot liveCD if HD fails?
In the past few days as some will know from a previous thread I had a total failure of a machine that is now resolved after replacing the hard drive - however one thing puzzles me - why would a computer with a failed SATA hard drive be unable to boot from a liveDVD in the optical drive? Maybe this is a suitable mystery to solve as we come to Halloween! -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Why-should-a-machine-not-boot-liveCD-if-HD-fails--tp26137073p26137073.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: two major failures after yesterday updates - RESOLVED
Mike Cloaked wrote: > > > For your first comment about the response of the system to a mistyped > password in kdm I was not aware of - I'll ask if this it was a second > login attempt when I talk to her later - and yes i do have kdm as the > login manager. The status of the bz you referred to linked to an upstream > bug which has not had any reply since the end of August! > > On the suggestions for trying to boot a livecd - I did try and after the > POST, it gave "port 00:" at the top of the screen and a line of "stuff" - > but did nothing further. I now have a new replacement HD which I will > install over the weekend and see if I can then boot a liveCD to configure > it - I'll report back in due course. > > This evening I removed the HD and installed the brand new hard drive. The machine now readily booted to a PartedMagic LiveCD and I was able to partition the drive to prepare for an f11 clean install which I have now just completed. So in this case it turned out to be a total failure of the hard drive - the machine is less than 2 years old, so a drive failure at this age is surprising, the more so considering it has always been on a UPS to protect the mains supplying it. The new HD is a different make to the original, and hopefully will last a little longer than the previous one! Anyway I am very glad that this turned out to be unrelated to the operating system, although I am still trying to get to the bottom of what happened to the other machine - which was clearly a software issue. Have a good weekend. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/two-major-failures-after-yesterday-updates---anyone-else-tp26109441p26136595.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Okular not printing in f11? - SOLVED
Bugzilla from rdie...@math.unl.edu wrote: > > Mike Cloaked wrote: > >> >> I just tried to print a pdf from Okular running in f11 - it appears not >> to >> see the network printers (I can print fine from Firefox) - anyone else >> see >> this? > > Not here, is /etc/printcap populated with printers visible to cups? > > I just tried again after a few hours, and it worked fine a minute ago - there must have been a network problem earlier (network is not under my control in this case) - I did not change anything! Weird! Anyway sorry for the noise. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Okular-not-printing-in-f11--tp26129571p26132097.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Okular not printing in f11?
I just tried to print a pdf from Okular running in f11 - it appears not to see the network printers (I can print fine from Firefox) - anyone else see this? -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Okular-not-printing-in-f11--tp26129571p26129571.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: two major failures after yesterday updates - anyone else
Bugzilla from gabriello.rami...@gmail.com wrote: > > > in the above case, maybe her mistyped her password in one ocassion and > when typed it correctly , the machine got the following bug > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506171 " If password > entered incorrectly in KDM, next successful login causes X server > shutdown and hang " > > maybe you can try to mistype your password and enter correctly with > kernel 2.6.30.8-64 to discard kernel-2.6.30.9-90.fc11.i686.PAE as the > cause > >> The other machine is extinct - I cannot boot at all even to a liveCD so I >> can't investigate it. However at the time that failed there were weird >> graphics artifacts with multicoloured lines - and it is conceivable that >> it >> could have also been a graphics issue - on boot it puts port00: after the >> first message on the screen, and then some stuff on the screen (after the >> post check complets) but no boot - I tried partedmagic DVD but it won't >> boot >> at all. I suppose that the disc could have gone bad and over the weekend >> will replace the drive and see if that allows a boot and re-install - but >> I >> am out of ideas on that... however the nouveau failure on my wife's >> machine >> worries me > > if you disconnect the hard drive, maybe you can boot from a livecd, to > see if the motherboard and video card are fine. I don't know if the > livecd include the memttest > > maybe the sata cable failed or the sata port where the disk is connected > failed, if you have a sata port free you can connect the hard drive in > it if using uuids in the partitions > > For your first comment about the response of the system to a mistyped password in kdm I was not aware of - I'll ask if this it was a second login attempt when I talk to her later - and yes i do have kdm as the login manager. The status of the bz you referred to linked to an upstream bug which has not had any reply since the end of August! On the suggestions for trying to boot a livecd - I did try and after the POST, it gave "port 00:" at the top of the screen and a line of "stuff" - but did nothing further. I now have a new replacement HD which I will install over the weekend and see if I can then boot a liveCD to configure it - I'll report back in due course. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/two-major-failures-after-yesterday-updates---anyone-else-tp26109441p26129537.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: two major failures after yesterday updates - anyone else
Mike Cloaked wrote: > > > # service paranoia start > OK so the two machines conspired to fail in the same 12 hour period soon > after some updates - it is a hardware conspiracy! Now I know... > > Now I'll just have to make sure I don't update my phone, TV, or anything > else just in case they are part of the same plot! > # service paranoia stop > OK I have been working on this tonight - it turned out that my wife had the presence of mind to write down what was on the screen of her machine when it failed - and it was not as fatal/terminal as my own machine's problem. In my wife's case she reported that when hitting the enter key to login under kdm the screen went black, and this was followed by a cursor at top right and repeated lines containing text, with "nouveau_fifo_free:freeing fifo 1" So this appears to have been a graphics issue concerning the nouveau driver - however this evening I was able to boot this machine and am running on the previous kernel for safety. (2.6.30.8-64.fc11.i686.PAE) I have not yet sought to investigate whether there were changes in the new kernel (kernel-PAE-2.6.30.9-90.fc11.i686) that relate to the nouveau driver - however I have never until now had any graphics related issues with this machine and it does have an Nvidia 8300GS card. The other machine is extinct - I cannot boot at all even to a liveCD so I can't investigate it. However at the time that failed there were weird graphics artifacts with multicoloured lines - and it is conceivable that it could have also been a graphics issue - on boot it puts port00: after the first message on the screen, and then some stuff on the screen (after the post check complets) but no boot - I tried partedmagic DVD but it won't boot at all. I suppose that the disc could have gone bad and over the weekend will replace the drive and see if that allows a boot and re-install - but I am out of ideas on that... however the nouveau failure on my wife's machine worries me -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/two-major-failures-after-yesterday-updates---anyone-else-tp26109441p26120073.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: two major failures after yesterday updates - anyone else
Kevin J. Cummings wrote: > > > Could also be power related, though if its a coincidence, it a *very* > unfortunate one. > > It does make me wary about rebooting my machine now. B^) I think I'll > wait to see if you get any more responses. > > The two machines were/are on independent ups'es - so I can't see it is power related unless some spike managed to get through the ups boxen. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/two-major-failures-after-yesterday-updates---anyone-else-tp26109441p26117024.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: two major failures after yesterday updates - anyone else
Tom Horsley-3 wrote: > > > I have this long standing theory that hardware deliberately > waits till you install new software to break. I've > seen it happen way too often over the years in our lab > at work for it to be a coincidence :-). > > # service paranoia start OK so the two machines conspired to fail in the same 12 hour period soon after some updates - it is a hardware conspiracy! Now I know... Now I'll just have to make sure I don't update my phone, TV, or anything else just in case they are part of the same plot! # service paranoia stop -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/two-major-failures-after-yesterday-updates---anyone-else-tp26109441p26116980.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: two major failures after yesterday updates - anyone else
Craig White-6 wrote: > > > there are thousands updating F11 every day. If there is/was a problem, > we would be hearing about it. > > Craig > > OK - maybe I am just very very unlucky today - I had also wondered if there was anything in the update to the quota package that could have been connected. I don't use quotas but one of the systems guys at work told me that there were known problems with quotas in ext4 - and I am wondering if this is connected - if there is nothing possibly related to the updates then I will accept that I just had two disks die as an unhappy coincidence. I need to make further checks over the coming weekend, and maybe it is just a bad hair day for me Presumably those who have added to this thread are also using ext4 and (apart from one) have updated to the new kernel and new quota package? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/two-major-failures-after-yesterday-updates---anyone-else-tp26109441p26116539.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: two major failures after yesterday updates - anyone else
Kevin J. Cummings wrote: > > On 10/29/2009 05:14 AM, Mike Cloaked wrote: >> >> I have had an unprecented pair of events last night and this morning - >> two >> machines (both Dell Inspiron 530s desktops) have died completely ( >> unbootable) - having been running on f11 very successfully for some time. >> I >> had no reason to suspect the hardware at all and both were running fine >> from >> new a couple of years ago - but I am now wondering if this has anything >> to >> do with updates that came in on 28th October. The new kernel and a number >> of >> other updates were installed yesterday morning on both machines. Both >> were >> also using ext4 files systems. > > Did you reboot after installing the new kernels? > > I have installed the new updates yesterday as well, but I have not yet > reboot to use the new kernels on either my x86_64 laptop, nor an i586 > desktop that I use only for testing. Both are still running. Possibly > because I have not yet rebooted. Neither have any ext4 filesystems on > them. > > Just a data point for you to compare to. > > Yes I rebooted both machines yesterday morning shortly after the updates were in. They appeared to run fine until the first failed catastrophically last night. The second failed whilst I was on my way to work - my wife phoned me to tell me that the screen had suddenly filled with coloured bars and that there were weird messages on the screen - the machines are now unbootable. It does sounds like a catastrophic disk failure but I was wondering if it had anything to do with them running with ext4 file systems - on / and /opt though /boot was ext3 as needed for f11 install with ext4 for the rest. I am at a total loss as this takes out both operational desktops at home - it is of course possible that it is not connected with any updates - but two machines going out within 12 hours seems a very unfortunate coincidence - last night I was convinced it was an unlucky disk failure - but I have not had time to investigate. However I thought it was worth asking in case anyone else who is running f11, and ran the same updates may have hit the analogous problem - if so I am quite worried as I have several other machines running f11 elsewhere (like on my desk at work!) All are fully up to date f11 - but with different hardware. The two that failed were both Dell 530S less than 2 years old. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/two-major-failures-after-yesterday-updates---anyone-else-tp26109441p26115173.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
two major failures after yesterday updates - anyone else
I have had an unprecented pair of events last night and this morning - two machines (both Dell Inspiron 530s desktops) have died completely ( unbootable) - having been running on f11 very successfully for some time. I had no reason to suspect the hardware at all and both were running fine from new a couple of years ago - but I am now wondering if this has anything to do with updates that came in on 28th October. The new kernel and a number of other updates were installed yesterday morning on both machines. Both were also using ext4 files systems. I would like to know if this is a chance event or related to kernel changes, particularly related to ext4? If nobody else has anything remotely similar happen then I will conclude that I am just very very unlucky - but I would like to know if anybody else has had a mysterious total failure of their system in the past 24 hours. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/two-major-failures-after-yesterday-updates---anyone-else-tp26109441p26109441.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
F11 Nvidia 8300 GS and kmod-nvidia-PAE fail
Has anyone had a total failure to run kmod-nvidia with an 8300 GS graphics card in f11? My system (http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_0461ec99-2d05-44bf-ac48-1a0d78a17c52) used to run with the kmod-nvidia-PAE installed from rpmfusion just fine in f10 with no issues at all. When I installed (clean) the new f11 system on this machine (in fact two machines with this card both have identical issues), the install was fine, I then yum updated to the latest kernel and, as per my normal upgrade procedure, then yum installed kmod-nvidia-PAE from rpmfusion. This process worked without issue on two other machines which have nvidia graphics cards (but not the 8300 card). On rebooting, the boot began as normal (text kms/plymouth with the blue/white running line on the bottom of the screen), but as soon as x should start - it didn't. There was a blank screen with a flashing cursor at top right only. I removed the kmod-nvidia package, and xorg.conf and ran without it until yesterday. After updating the system to the new kernel yesterday I booted to the new kernel 2.6.30.9-90.fc11.i686.PAE - which was fine and tried yum install kmod-nvidia-PAE (which is the correct version of kmod-nvidia for this card and kernel I believe) and rebooted - same as the original problem - after the plymouth non-graphical boot, blank screen with flashing cursor - except that some seconds later a couple of lines of text appeared on the screen related to selinux audit. I removed kmod-mvidia and am running without it again - this morning in the syslog there are lines: audit(1256631766.417:29202): auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=system_u:system_r:readahead_t:s0 op=remove rule key=(null) list=2 res=1 However I am not sure this is directly related to the kmod-nvidia-PAE or not. Anyway I wonder if anyone else has had a problem with this card and an inability to use kmod-nvidia? If so is there a known workaround? Thanks for any replies. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/F11-Nvidia-8300-GS-and-kmod-nvidia-PAE-fail-tp26091296p26091296.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Maple13 and Fedora 11
Bugzilla from rdie...@math.unl.edu wrote: > > mike cloaked wrote: > >> Since I have to use Maple 13 at work I installed it in my F11 machine >> - it worked for everything I tested, but refused to print (not >> printers came up in the printing dialogue). It turned out that this >> is due to the embedded java JRE being incompatible with F11, and it >> was necessary to make Maple use another version of java. > > I think printing is just plain broken. It is for our setup too (mixed > F-8, > F-10, EL-5 boxes). > > I will be reporting the problem to maple shortly, I suggest you do the > same. > > Printing has been broken for me for several releases of Maple whichever version of Fedora I have been using the past couple of years. However with the replacement of the java jre as per my link it works 100% for me in Maple13 running in Fedora 11. I don't know what version of java they embedded in their install disk but I think that is the main culprit - but yes reporting to Maple devs is certainly a good idea. However this also highlights a problem with Iced Tea - till now I have not had a need to use anything other than the open source java and it is a shame I now have to install Sun Java to get Maple to work! -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Maple13-and-Fedora-11-tp26049037p26055566.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: How to tell IP address of remote machine?
Tom H-4 wrote: > > >> I guess I could use lynx, and try to abstract the address ...) > > What you seem to want is the ADSL modem's IP address. > > I guess you could construct a shell script that contains a line with /usr/bin/curl -u user:pass http:embedded-modem-url > /tmp/modemstatus Then use some editing in the script to find the ip address in the /tmp/modemstatus file, and email yourself with the ip address once it is found from within the script by doing a manual send. Finally once the mail has been sent then remove the temporary file? Then run the script from a cron job periodically. I used to use a scheme like this some years ago for a friend with a dynamic ip address... -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/How-to-tell-IP-address-of-remote-machine--tp26047368p26051182.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Maple13 and Fedora 11
Since I have to use Maple 13 at work I installed it in my F11 machine - it worked for everything I tested, but refused to print (not printers came up in the printing dialogue). It turned out that this is due to the embedded java JRE being incompatible with F11, and it was necessary to make Maple use another version of java. I initially made it point to the Iced Tea default java in F11, and printing was then possible but there were many misplaced characters and it was not properly usable, so I resorted to to using Sun Java. If anyone else has been hit by this issue you may want to see the step by step instructions to making it work I prepared at: http://www-users.york.ac.uk/~mdc1/maple13_printing.html It would have been nice to use the open source java but in this instance I needed to get it working as quickly as possible and only using the SUN jre gave me a route to an operational system. If anyone has an alternative way to get printing working in Maple13 please let me know. -- mike -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Thunderbird 3.0pre not printing to shared printers
Mike Cloaked wrote: > > I am running Thunderbird from the upstream nightlies (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; > Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5pre) Gecko/20091018 Lightning/1.0pre > Shredder/3.0pre) and find Thunderbird (Shredder) can't see shared network > printers - I can only select print to file (Firefox sees the shared > printers just fine on the same machine) - but I don't know if this is also > a problem in the current version of Thunderbird that was released as an > update in F11? I also don't know if this is a new regression or a known > problem? > > I know I am running a version that has not been released to Fedora - but > if this is also a problem in Thunderbird 3.0b4 then it is relevant to this > list also. > > I just upgraded my main machine to f11, and previously, in Thunderbird 2, > I could certainly print email to shared printers quite happily in F10. > Turns out it won't print to local printers either - this is a pretty important bug to get fixed - reported upstream at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=523680 -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Thunderbird-3.0pre-not-printing-to-shared-printers-tp25991182p25998837.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Thunderbird 3.0pre not printing to shared printers
I am running Thunderbird from the upstream nightlies (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5pre) Gecko/20091018 Lightning/1.0pre Shredder/3.0pre) and find Thunderbird (Shredder) can't see shared network printers - I can only select print to file (Firefox sees the shared printers just fine on the same machine) - but I don't know if this is also a problem in the current version of Thunderbird that was released as an update in F11? I also don't know if this is a new regression or a known problem? I know I am running a version that has not been released to Fedora - but if this is also a problem in Thunderbird 3.0b4 then it is relevant to this list also. I just upgraded my main machine to f11, and previously, in Thunderbird 2, I could certainly print email to shared printers quite happily in F10. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Thunderbird-3.0pre-not-printing-to-shared-printers-tp25991182p25991182.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Upgrade to2.6.27.37-170.2.104.fc10.i686.PAE Can I get kmod-nvidia to go with it?
Roger-111 wrote: > > > I found the repos are dangerous and very difficult to find. Yum could > not find kmod-nvidia nor akmod-nvidia but locked up until I manually > removed them from repos.d .They don't or didn't for me provide any > useful applications and crashed the system. > > If you installed the nvidia driver direct from nvidia then you may have things installed during that process that prevent the packages available from rpmfusion from working - there was a long thread about this on this forum a year or two back. The way to do it is to first as root in a clean system: rpm -ivh http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm then rpm -ivh http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-stable.noarch.rpm This installs the rpmfusion repo files in the right place in /etc/repos.d/ Then check which version of the kmod-nvidia you need - if you are using a PAE kernel then you need to install kmod-nvdia-PAE if not then you may need kmod-nvidia on its own. However you may need the legacy drivers instead in which case you need kmod-nvidia-173xx etc. Check your graphics card version and find which driver you need before you install it. Then do "yum install kmod-nvidia" or "yum install kmod-nvidia-PAE" etc as appropriate. If you don't install the right one then it may well not work properly! HTH -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Upgrade-to2.6.27.37-170.2.104.fc10.i686.PAE-Can-I-get-kmod-nvidia-to-go-with-it--tp25942740p25954537.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: Spooky network manager
stan-56 wrote: > > On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 09:27:45 -0400 > lanas wrote: >> Makes me think, since I'm still keeping an eye on scaled-down, to the >> point apps, what about wicd as an alternative to NM ? I'm tempted to >> try it eventually. No gnome dependencies. Has a ncurses-based >> interface for console modes and some other nifty features. A nicer >> GTK UI. >> >> http://wicd.sourceforge.net/ > > Thanks for posting this reference. I don't care about wireless, but > wicd, and the project urwid it references, have some code that I > think will be very useful for creating an ncurses interface to a > program in python. And they are GPL and LGPL respectively, so I can > use it without license concerns. > > Although I don't use wicd myself there is a guide page for installing in F11 at http://wicd.sourceforge.net/moinmoin/Wicd%20on%20Fedora%2011 Have fun! -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/F11%3A-Spooky-network-manager-tp25918177p25940654.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: OT: ATX 4P power socket
Christoph Höger wrote:
I somehow broke my ATX 4P 12V Power Socket from my mb.
Here's my question: Is there any hope to get such a socket as a
replacement part somewhere and try if repluging would help?
The problem is not so much difficulty finding the part. The problem
is going to be removing the broken one without damaging the MB.
Those boards are multi layered, so desolering the pins is a bit
of a challenge. I'd try breaking up the old socket with a pair
of dykes to get the shell off first, then try to desolder the
pins one at a time. A solder sucker is necessary for this.
You may have a pin broken off inside the board. A solder sucker
can likely get it back out for you. A toothpick can also be
helpful.
Be gentle, and use a temperature controlled iron. Wattage doesn't
much matter, so long as it is high enough. You'll see "never use
a high power iron on PC boards" recommended. This is untrue. The
power doesn't matter, but the temperature does. Be careful not
to overheat the board, that's what counts.
Mike
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Re: F11: Spooky network manager
Craig White-6 wrote: > > > I wouldn't expect this to all that difficult but you would have to > configure iwconfig to be able to handle virtually all of this but since > a laptop is essentially a mobile device, it makes far more sense to use > a tool that is designed, at the user level to connect to various > networks - hence NetworkManager > > Well, I used to have to configure wpa_supplicant myself for WPA, and then get the startup scripts to do things in the right order - it may of be very simple a couple of versions down the road - but I would still be interested and bemused to know what the experience is for someone trying it now in F11 compared to when I was spending quite a bit of time on it in F8/9! Maybe it is easy now (tongue remains firmly in cheek!) -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/F11%3A-Spooky-network-manager-tp25918177p25926921.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: F11: Spooky network manager
Craig White-6 wrote: > > > 2. Aaron is giving you nothing of usefulness. A laptop should use > NetworkManager for connecting to wireless networks...that's one of the > things that it is designed to do. > > Although I have not used the network service for a year or two now (except for wired connections) I used to find getting a WPA encrypted wireless connection using the network service was something of a game of hide and seek - and NetworkManager makes WPA wireless easy. If you do manage to get a wireless WPA connection going using the network service instead I would be most interested to know how you do it. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/F11%3A-Spooky-network-manager-tp25918177p25925435.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: NFSv4 setup?
Jonathan Dieter-2 wrote: > > > FWIW, I've switched our school system over to nfs4 from nfs3 when I > deployed the Fedora 11 image. There were two reasons: > > * nfs3 file locking seriously sucks. When someone opened OpenOffice, > had a crash, and then attempted to open OpenOffice again, it would > segfault, no matter which computer was used. The only solution was to > rm ~/.openoffice.org. Some problem with firefox. > * There was nothing stopping random computers on the network from > connecting to the server. With nfs4 being restricted to one port, I've > been able to turn on ipsec authentication for that port only. > > There have been two problems with nfs4: > > * Usernames now have to be matched using rpcidmapd where before all I > needed to do was make sure the UID's matched up (using LDAP). > * There is now some funky POSIX->NFS->POSIX acl conversion going on, > rather than the (admittedly hacked on) POSIX acls that were built-in to > nfs3. It just means I can't see the acls on the client using standard > getfacl and setfacl tools. > > Hope that helps. > > Jonathan > > Thank you Jonathan - that is exactly the kind of feedback I was hoping to get - and useful. Of course setting up the basics of the exports etc is one thing, but tying in authentication as well as using acls is not that obvious (to me at any rate!) so a clear guide showing how to do it is still needed. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/NFSv4-setup--tp25915080p25925118.html Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
